BodyCity Council
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 March 26, 2026

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Pledge of Allegianceceremonial · click to expand
UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role0:23

We will call this meeting to order at 6 p.m. for March 26th. Council Member Sanchez, would you lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance? I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:30

pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:44

All

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role0:49

right if we could please have roll call

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Council Member Hornick. Here. Council Member Lewis. Here. Council Member Sanchez. Here. Vice Mayor Mead. Here and Mayor Silva. Here

Would there be any reordering of the agenda

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:02

tonight? No reordering of the agenda this evening Mr. Mayor but I will note that our closed session item, Item Number 15 will be postponed to a future date.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role1:12

Okay And then tonight we do have a presentation for the evening. So we have some special guests in the audience tonight, so we'll move on to our proclamation recognizing National Vietnam War Veterans Day March 29th 2026. So I'll go ahead and read the proclamation and then we'll go ahead and have our speakers come up if you'd like to say any items at this point and then please do not leave because we do want to take a photo with you all as well. So i hope your camera ready as well oh everyone gets to come up for the photo Proclamation recognizing National Vietnam War Veterans Day March 29th, 2026.

Whereas the Vietnam War was a long costly and divisive conflict that pitted the communist government of North Vietnam against South Vietnam and its principal ally, the United States. And whereas for almost two decades during the conflict Americans raised their right hands and committed to serve and defend our Constitution as uniformed members of the United States Armed Forces during a time when opposition to the Vietnam war created a bitter division among Americans. And whereas throughout the years of the Vietnam War, more than 3 million people were killed including over 58,000 Americans while 9 million Americans returned home with the title of United States veteran. At the time of their return many of these veterans were not welcomed home or thanked for their service due to opposition to the war That's why today and every day we honor their bravery and commitment, and give thanks to a generation of Americans who valiantly fought in service of their country.

And whereas the City of Buellton honors all those who served in the Vietnam War, and recognize the continued impact that conflict has on so many veterans and their families, caregivers, and survivors. And now, therefore I Mayor David Silva do hereby recognize March 29th 2026 as National Vietnam War Veterans Day in the city of Buellton and commemorate the hardships and sacrifices of those who served and their families who supported them before during and after the war. Presented this 26th day of March 2026.

And I know we usually clap for the sake of the proclamation but I do want to just have a moment saying thank you both for having two gentlemen who served here today. We really appreciate you being here and thank you for all of your service so if we could actually just give a round of applause to these two gentlemen Good afternoon, everyone.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:11

Thank you for joining us today. I would like to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed3:12

introduce

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role3:13

our first speaker. Would

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed3:15

any of you like

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role3:15

to speak?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed3:18

You're the opening act. Council members, thank you When we started five years ago, they were doing this appreciation in Washington but no one was doing it in Santa Barbara County. So the city of Buellton let us bring this and bring it back and start honoring our Vietnam vets. It's just grown. The first year there was about 50 people and last year there were 350 vets, and we were able to honor their spouses as well. This year we've expanded it a little to also the Vietnam Korean War and also the war on terrorism for Iraqi Afghanistan Gulf Wars.

We just like to honor all of our vets let's face it like they are just so important to us This one is really important to me. He had my heart. He was a football coach and a government teacher at the high school. There were six boys in his government class that all, he's a Marine, they all joined the Marine Corps. My son was one of them. He was being shipped to Iraq.

I was a wreck. Coach Smith called me, asked me if I could meet him at the football field. Little odd but you never say no to Coach Smith so I said sure He gave me one of his medals and said, tell our boy to bring it back. That was really something that a mama needed to have right then and I wanted him to bring it back too. So he's really close my heart and the Vietnam guys we will be celebrating for as long as they'll let us do it. Thank you City of Buellton thank you for giving them this honor and thank you for recognizing Coach Smith Sorry, Dave Smith.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:45

So it seems like just a couple of days ago that I went in but it's been 60 years before since I went to the Marine Corps right after I graduated from high school. I was lucky I went into 17. As I tell people, I went into two so I kind of flipped my age a little bit. But I was kind of lucky when I got out of boot camp and in infantry school, I trained as an infantryman. And I was the only one that didn't go straight to Vietnam in the fall of 66 because I was still 17.

So I did about a year in the States and then said, well back then there was only three kinds of Marines. Those that had been to Vietnam, those that were there and those that were going to go. So I figured might as well get it over with so I along with a lot of other guys stationed back North Carolina we all volunteered for a replacement group and went to Vietnam.

I was lucky I made my whole 13 month tour spending a little bit in the hospital with malaria But other than that, I was lucky. I had lost lots of friends and some that we live with the Vietnam vets we live with every day. The other thing is when were you last in Vietnam? And the answer is last night. So now we appreciate all the recognition because when we came home it wasn't as for myself, it wasn't as bad as a lot of people say But it was just that people ignored you. They just didn't care.

My buddies from high school that I saw said, where have you been? And then I said, Vietnam. Said oh well, did they give you free beer? And that's all they cared about. I was still under 21 and that's all they cared about civilians but so we appreciate all the things that people do for us now and I think a lot of Vietnam vets, they've done things since then that so young soldiers, Marines, sailors don't get treated the way we did. So it's a thing close to our heart that you recognize all those. You may not agree with what went on but you can't blame the guys that were there doing it.

They were just following and I hate to have sound but following orders. But it was also, we went off and thought it was an adventure until the first day. And then you find out it's not an adventure. It's life and death. So but thank you very much. And hopefully y'all come over Saturday and have a good time. Thanks. Thank you very much.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed8:36

First of all I'd like to say thank you Mayor Silva and the entire council this is a rare Super honor and treat to receive the proclamation. My story is actually pretty similar to Coach Smith's. I'm newer here in the valley, moved up here in 2014. Before that I lived in Orange County. I joined Marine Corps right out of high school About 10 months after joining the Marine Corps, I was shipped off to Vietnam.

I served with Lima Company 3rd Battalion 7th Marines. It's an infantry outfit but my particular role much like Coach Smith's we directed artillery strikes. We were what they referred to as forward observers. Coming back to the States, there were no parades. There were no congratulations. The only people who are truly happy to see me back where my parents and my brothers.

I come from a long line of Marines, uncles, grandfather. And it just seemed like the thing to do for me. But what it really did was open my eyes to the need of a good education. So upon returning, I went to college, I went to grad school, I went to law school. I've spent over 40 years practicing law. I was a deputy district attorney in Orange County for four years and I hope that you all can make it to the ceremony on Saturday and we're looking forward to a big crowd. And again, thank you very much for this honor. Before

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role10:45

we do any photos, did you want to say something Council Member Sanchez?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed10:49

Again, I'd like to thank you for your service. I went to Washington D.C., and then I went to the memorial there, and it was just gave me chills. And I would say lucky enough, I had a friend that had three people that were on the wall. So I went down, and they give you a little piece of paper, and you scratch their name across, and I brought back the names off the wall. But it was an honor.

Being from a military family, I was born on an Air Force base. And I appreciate all your services. You're a man of great support and value to have in the party for you too. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed11:35

Yes, gentlemen. Thank you so much for your service and Pam thank you for all your hard work that you've done to make sure that the veterans of not just the Vietnam War but other wars and conflicts are being recognized my father's a Vietnam vet. So this hits particularly personally for me. So I just want to say thank you too. Thank you again for your service and the sacrifice that you and your families made.

And I'm so glad that we can offer this small token of our appreciation. It's long overdue, and I'm happy that finally, you know, we are starting to really recognize all of you for all the things that you've done for our country and for all of us. So thank you again.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role12:15

As someone who attended, I went to the Walter H. Capps religion in Vietnam class that was offered at UCSB and I remember when the veterans came and educated and shared their stories. I just want to thank you. To be willing to be visible and to share your story and to pass that along is something that takes an extra step of courage beyond already what you had done with your service to it so I really appreciate gentlemen being willing to talk and share what you have gone through. And the realities of war, it really impacted me at that age and for all the college kids who took that class. So when you have Vietnam veterans willing to engage with a community that had not the greatest story of connection when you came back to it we just really appreciate all you've done to continue to keep those experiences alive and those lessons learned for future generations.

So thank you gentlemen for being here tonight.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed13:01

Thank you. From a military family as well so it hits close to home.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role13:08

If you'd like, can we do a photo? All right. Let's do a photo. Pam, you got to be part of it too.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed13:29

Okay, 1-2-3. All right. Thank you, sir. We're so busy. Have a great Thursday, we'll see you on Saturday.

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UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role14:49

We'll make sure we announce it again,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed14:51

too. Lieutenant Henderson is not with

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role14:55

us. Okay so without having Lieutenant Henderson tonight we will now

move on to item number three arts and culture program any production preview

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed15:09

Hello Mr. Mayor, members of council and before we do this I'd like to also say thank you for that proclamation as a daughter of a disabled Vietnam vet who passed from his exposure to Agent Orange that is a meaningful proclamation for families as well who watched those men live a war fight a war again in their bodies when they came home so thank you for honoring that I'm here tonight on a happier note.

Sorry, about to collect myself. The Arts and Culture Committee we are putting on a production of Annie that was so generously funded by this council and I just wanted to give you a little bit of an update. We had close to 200 people come in audition. So we had a really exciting turnout. I think it shows that there is an interest in the arts in the Valley and we hope to bring more of that programming to Buellton in the future. And we are almost sold out. So if you haven't gotten your tickets Please do.

We have our actors coming in soon to do free workshops, those are also sold out and our actors have really generously also decided to do Zoom lessons for people that were not able to make that cut off so they are donating an extra three days of their time of sessions to do that. So it's been a really exciting partnership and we're grateful to you all for making that happen We wanted to bring up our Annie who is Miss Lily Wolfe and she was hoping that she could just brighten your day with a little taste of the sun will come out tomorrow.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed17:08

The sun will come out tomorrow. Tomorrow, the sun just thinking about clouds and the sun That's. Stick up. Yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed18:41

Get to your mom, but you have to hold the flowers. All

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UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role19:12

right, let me see if we can

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed19:13

get a photo with you. Thank you so much.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed20:02

I'm

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed20:03

sorry, Allison. Could

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role20:07

you put in the microphone? Can you say in the microphone the dates of the performance?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed20:13

Yes sir it is April 17th and 18th at Solvang Theater Fest and tickets can be ordered at solvangtheaterfest.org. I think we only have about 20 tickets left for both nights so... Thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed20:28

It's

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role20:33

either a star is born or a diva is born tonight. Well thank you very much okay it's hard to follow up on that honestly that's like where do we go from here so we will now move on to public comment at this time, do we have any public comment for any non-agendized items? Okay, we will now move on to the consent calendar for items 4 through 10. Would any council members like to pull any items at this time from items four through ten?

I would personally like to pull item ten if that's possible so that we can have an update on that for a few questions. So is it possible with pulling item ten if we could have anyone to make a motion for items four through nine?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed21:14

I move to approve.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role21:16

I'll second.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed21:19

Thank you very much. So we have item 10

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed21:45

Yes, at about 420 this afternoon we did receive an email from HCD. Their email indicated that at the direction of their senior management they were letting us know that the changes that the City Council had made to the agenda at the last meeting were accepted and they have no further comments at this time

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role22:08

the agenda sorry I'm sorry you said the changes to the agenda oh I'm sorry changes to the ordinance okay sorry no problem okay thank you just want to see thank you for sharing that that was an update all right does anyone else have any questions for staff at this time

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed22:22

no

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role22:22

okay so we have a public comment on the item number 10

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed22:30

okay mr. Carlson Good evening Mayor, City Council Members. Just wanted to touch on a few quick items here. One you have a letter from our office in the record with respect to this ordinance that I hope you all read because it corrects some of your misstatements made by the council at the last meeting I would also like to emphasize again, in response to the question from the Mayor that it's important to note that the Department of Housing and Community Development interpretations do not resolve the ordinance as legal faults.

Statutory violations cannot be cured by HCD approval. And then finally, I would just note that your Council still has the opportunity here to do right by these tenants and make firm commitments in the ordinance itself or through actual policies as part of its ordinance adoption. And I would encourage you to do so, thank you.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role23:23

Thank you very much. Do we have any further public comment on the item?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed23:27

No further comments.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role23:29

Okay any questions or comments from staff at this time or from council at this time? Okay is there a motion or would anyone like to make a motion on this item?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed23:40

I would move to approve ordinance number 2603, an ordinance of the City Council of the city of Buellton California amending chapter 3.28.060 of the Buellton Municipal Code pertaining to registration requirements of hotel operators subject to transient occupancy tax and adding chapter 1019-6-290 of the Buellton Municipal Code pertaining to the operation of hotels for short term rental use only second reading

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role24:10

Okay, is there a second? I'll go ahead and

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second. Council Member Lewis. Aye. Mayor Silva. Aye. Council Member Sanchez. Aye
UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed24:22

And Vice-Mayor Mead. Aye

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role24:24

Okay thank you very much are there any public hearings tonight no public hearings okay oh yes we need to get Thank you for joining us. Thank you. . Councilmember Hornick.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed25:43

Stuff anyway, this is a this is a group of people value wide that every Saturday. At 8 from 8 to 9, they pick a spot in the valley and they go out with bags and they pick up trash for my everybody gets a mile. And they have done this for years. It's pretty great. They have a coordination with. The county has agreed to pick up the trash at a set point and then just dispose of it. So they literally just keep the valley clean So I'm going to go ahead and get started.

I thought it was something that perhaps the city could consider as well. And they don't hit the city of Buellton But the whole idea there, as one of the co-captains says is clean your stoop, be responsible for your area and immediate shoulders. If maybe the city would consider something like the county does is coordinating a pickup. So if we were able to distribute in some kind of way some colored trash bags and people in the City of Buellton could actually go and pick up trash, people might be so inclined to do so.

It's just something I wanted to float to the City Council to see if maybe we could discuss facilitating help in that regard. I don't know if we should maybe ask for City Council concurrence on that or, I don't know, there needs to be a staff item to come back to? Maybe it is something staff might look into the feasibility for?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed28:10

It's something we can look into if the council would like to discuss it again we should have direction

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role28:17

I know it definitely had been in conversation with the Rotary Club. We talked about 2 of how they might be a really good advocate partner too, so maybe it'd be a worthwhile thing to kind of see what are all ways between SPCAG, rotary and other options? What are our ways that we could pull this together? So I'd be happy to explore it further if there's room for us to do so.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed28:34

Perfect yeah, they mentioned rotary as well and I know there's probably like them and then rotary makes at least two organizations out coordination might be helpful but also getting the word out would be good.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed28:48

Thank

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role28:49

you. Okay. Councilmember vice mayor Mead?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed28:50

That's great thank you.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role28:52

Okay, sounds good. For me the only items I wanted to bring up is thank you to everyone who came out to the wine and chili festival and there was a lot of oh sorry Vice Mayor Mead.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed29:18

At 9 a.m., and they're meeting in front of pea soup Anderson's so kind of just part of that whole conversation, and I also just wanted to thank city manager Scott wolf in our recreation director Paul for meeting with 2 of the men from the triumph organization. They're looking at bringing some adaptive sports programs here to Buellton, and they're really excited about the opportunity to partner with us. Unfortunately I was not able to be there so I really just appreciate Scott and Paul taking that on for me and learning a bit more about those programs. And then I guess the other last thing is obviously I believe the Easter egg hunt is coming up, so that's going to be very exciting. So that's going to be this Saturday as well at Riverview Park and I believe that starts at 9 30.

So just some community doings that I wanted to make sure that people were aware of. Thank you.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role30:08

I was just going to say thanks everyone who came to the wine and chili festival. It was delicious and the heartburn was well worth it, so I appreciate that we had a decent number of Buellton businesses that were able to take home some prizes on their awards for that. And then the farmer's market, just want to say again to everyone who made that happen and for all those who are doing outreach, I know it's kind of a...I appreciate city staff has been very responsive to some of the concerns for the avenue businesses in working through that as we Thank you, Mr. Buellton. I just wanted to share is that if Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Moving on to committee reports. I'm sorry, any written communications at this time? None this evening. Now to committee reports.

Councilmember Sanchez, any committee reports?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed31:09

I did a CCWA meeting this morning and it was pretty interesting. We have Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed31:33

Councilmember

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role31:35

Hornick?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed31:38

Yes, I just wanted to let everyone know that I was at the California League of Cities. I had a community services policy committee in Costa Mesa which is why I'm not able to attend in person and I think they Our assemblymen and our representatives are going to be debating throughout the month of April. So if that is something that you're particularly interested in, there's 1800 for you to go through and look at personally. The community services policy committee was really focused on 4 particular bills and a lot of them focus on child care.

And housing and funding essentially for different types of programs to help those that are unhoused, foster youth and just people going through transitional times. But childcare was actually the bulk of the conversation so I just wanted to let everyone know that is what we were doing today.

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UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role32:37

Thank you very much. So we had a few meetings, so I wanted to thank also City Manager Scott Wolf for his attendance on... A couple weeks ago we had a city leader summit here in the city of Buellton where it's the mayors and some of the county supervisors come together and just kind of share what's taking place within the area, and they did it here in the Buellton Library. So thank you again for getting that together. And then right after that, we attended the St. Louis Valley Economic Summit I want to say it was really fun to be in solving and have Buellton beat the bell of the ball with all the great work we're doing. It's a testament to how much work this staff has done so thank you for setting us up for success It's a great opportunity with so much of the central coast being in a space of leadership.

There is the central coast coalition which is pretty much San Benito County down to us that works together to bring these more small rural mid-counties We were there in Sacramento advocating on behalf of the entire Central Coast. It's a lot easier when you have four counties joined together to ask for the same things, kind of catch people's attention a bit more. And then the reason why I cannot keep track of the agenda tonight is that I was in D.C. The last two days and flew home this morning.

I want to start by saying thank you to all of the members of the council. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and members of the public. We are trying to make sure that as much advocacy as we can to have the department of transportation release the grant funding for 1.4 million for the river trail. It's good to remind them that we would like the check to clear at some point so it was a good conversation to talk with them about various Thank you.

Thank you very much.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed35:15

Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council, at your last meeting on March 12th, city council directed staff to return with an agenda item for the city council to consider taking an official city position on Assembly Bill 1708. Assembly Bill 1708 would require that our county's community of care allocate homeless Let me get this straight. Homeless Housing Assistance and Prevention Funds, HHAP, you'll hear that a lot. No one ever wants to spell it out like this though, to smaller jurisdictions under this piece of legislation smaller jurisdictions would be any jurisdiction under 300,000 in population so we're well below that the problem that's been seen up to now is the state has allocated millions upon millions of dollars to housing I'm going to start by saying that the city of Buellton The California cities is a sponsor of this bill and is asking cities to voice their opinion to the legislature in support of its passage.

I can tell you that at this time we do not have any We have identified need for acquiring these funds from the legislature. However, if at some point in the future a need does arise without this bill in place or the provisions that come within this bill we would be unable to obtain those directly we would be having to fight larger jurisdictions who have The city of Buellton has a right to this fund.

I'm happy to answer any questions as best I can. I'm not an expert on the bill here, but we can walk through it if you like. Otherwise, we're looking for direction and all I would need is consensus from the council to take an official position or to authorize me to write a letter in support of this bill to our various legislators. And I'll be happy to conclude my report.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed37:42

Thank you very much for your time. Section 5246 is out of the health and safety code so down below it says, in order to be eligible. The smaller jurisdiction shall comply with each of the following that includes participating complying with a regionally coordinated homeless action plan almost an action plan. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed38:35

We will, should this legislation be adopted and particularly should we ever have need of the funds, we will have to look at what our current status on that plan is as well as there's other issues that you brought up here or that are in this particular section. Adopting a resolution to file the application having a compliant housing element which we do now but we'll have to look at it when we need that But yes, at this point we have a homeless action plan. It's not ours it's the county's and we are we are a member city in support of that. So would the county be the smaller jurisdiction or

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed39:10

would we

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed39:10

be? It could be either. The county has the continuum of care. That's the social service organization that That would and the county being a smaller jurisdiction would be the appropriate body to receive those funds. However, we could make application to the county's continuum of care to have some of those funds diverted directly to Buellton.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed39:35

Okay. And in so doing, we'd have to demonstrate how our actions are going to be in line with that homeless action plan? That's correct. Okay cool. So that was my really only concern about this is like how we are... I don't want to bind us to anything. I know we're just maybe being a voice in support of it but I would be paying attention to how any application of funds might bind us to an action right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed39:58

Yes. We would have to evaluate the current state of the environment at the time an application is filed and you'd need to make, you as the council would need to make a determination that you're willing to accept those ties in exchange for those funds just like any other grant application.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed40:15

No other questions

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role40:16

thank you. Any questions Council Member Lewis? Council Member Sanchez any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed40:20

Yeah so this is something I just.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed40:28

Yeah,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed40:29

we're just taking a position to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed40:31

where we're taking a position this would benefit the county as well if this if this legislation were passed the county would be able to obtain these funds more easily because the county had yeah the county has less than 300 pop thousand population so this would potentially benefit the county but The county has the organization or the group of services referred to as the continuum of care. And that's where those funds would be delivered to this just what the purpose of this is to ensure that smaller counties and cities have access The number I was looking for here, $500 million in the next or in this coming fiscal year will be allocated toward this program. So it's a sizable amount of money and as we're all painfully aware the problems that this funding is intended to help solve don't exist just The point that the league is making is the cities need to get together and ensure that the smaller jurisdictions have access to the funds as well.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role41:48

Thank you. Vice Mayor Mead, any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed41:51

No thank you.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role41:53

And my question just for the sake of gisting this whole thing is basically these funds exist, they're distributed annually already. And simply this legislation is these funds even if this legislation doesn't pass those funds are still going to be distributed. This legislation is just saying that they'd like to have small jurisdictions have a chance to even be competitive for that. So the system is just gonna run the same however it goes but this legislation would allow even us just to be somewhat more competitive to receive those funds from a smaller jurisdiction exactly okay thank you Is there a public comment on this item?

So would anyone like to make a motion? I will actively pause since I know that this was brought forth by Vice Mayor Meade. So in case Vice Mayor Meade wanted to make the motion, I just want to give her the chance of doing so.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed42:55

Yes, I would like to make emotion please. I second that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed43:01

What is the motion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed43:04

To direct staff to write a letter of support for Assembly Bill 1708 please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed43:10

Okay,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed43:11

I seconded.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed43:15

All right. Next up is item number

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed43:46

Good evening, Mayor and members of the City Council. Tonight as part of our budget process we'll be going over mid-year budget. Our policy calls that every six months we review the budget And determine where we're at in regards to the budget versus actuals. And if there are any budget amendments that need to be made tonight, I will only be looking at those funds that have.

Budget amendments but also just highly focusing on the general fund, which is our operating budget. In addition to the enterprise funds for water and sewer special revenue funds have a restriction based on their used. Which is why they're special revenues so I'm not going to go. Um, I'm not going to not going to review them. They're pretty self explanatory and attachment 1 shows all the budget to actuals and Scott if you can give me permission to share.

Sorry.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed44:50

Absolutely.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed44:51

No problem.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed44:52

I don't

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed44:53

know why it's not allowing me to share. I'm missing something. Oh, did you share? I did. Yeah, okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed45:19

More

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed45:19

exciting.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed45:21

They're sending that's over here,

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role45:23

I think it might be host tools for share.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed45:24

Oh, those tools. Okay, no, no, yeah, you can share this as host only

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role45:31

so we need to get there you go.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role45:32

That's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed45:33

where it's at. Yeah, they changed. Thank you. There you go

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed45:40

okay so Here's a budget overview. The proposed budgets still allow the budget to be balanced. The proposed budget amendments increase revenue by $98,800 and increase expenditures by $98 800 as well. And there was no changes to capital improvement budget. The only changes that we had was general fund and the water fund So, looking at the general fund we have about 18.2 million dollars in funding sources and 18.2 in total use of sources and when we look at our fund balance We're looking at maintaining a reserve level of 35% of off-grid expenditures. So based on this proposed budget, we're looking at a target level of about $4.4 million.

Anything above that is available for future use. That's 4.8 million dollars which is available based on our general Fund reserve policy, whether it's funding accrued liabilities funding capital improvement projects. Funding 1 time expenditures that do not decrease operating. Cost in the future or new startup programs. And then taking a look at our general fund revenues.

Uh, year to date most of our revenue categories exceed budget. So at 50% of the year are top revenue sources which is property tax sales tax TOT already above the 50%. And then as I noted on the staff report, franchise fees usually lag because we get the majority from PG&E and SoCal Gas and they're distributed in April. So even though we show that at 50% of the budget year, we're at 36%, we're targeted to hit budget revenue projections.

And then I just noted that the only change to the budgeted revenue is an increase in the use of reserves of $69,800. So this $69 800 is an increase to the use of reserves to fund or offset the increases and expenditure that I will talk about in a moment So here's an overall overview of the general fund expenditures. Again, year-to-date these departments are within budget as I mentioned in the staff report City Council is slightly above budget but it's expected to meet budget projections one of the biggest expenditures in that department was the special election so everything after that should catch up city attorney, there were charges that had to do for a code enforcement case which is why it showed an overage. But we also received revenue from those code enforcement which helped offset the increase in cost.

Non-departmental just by the nature of the costs associated with it, which are annual contributions or insurance liability, CalPERS unfunded accrued liability. Those tend to be large expenditures all done at the beginning of the fiscal year and that department meets budget projections by the end of the year. We also have a proposed budget amendment, which I will discuss further and that's just to increase operation expenditures. And also most of that has to do with previously City Council approved contracts.

And another one that has an overage of 50% is the library. Again, it's just we pay the City of Goleta once a year at the beginning of the fiscal year so that pretty much absorbs the whole budget and then all the others are within the 50% budget so I won't go into depth. I won't discuss those as I go I'll mention what those proposed budgets are So the first one for the non-departmental.

Non-departmental is proposed to increase $39,300. The first one is to recognize the approval of the sponsorship of the Sinai Valley Botanic Garden that was approved on February 26th, 2026 and that was $10,000 The second budget amendment proposal is a $5,000 increase to computer maintenance and software. We found that there was higher than anticipated software costs. Some softwares were actually increased between 5% to 10%.

In addition we increased software licensing for Sentinel-1 which is our anti-ransom software. So we determined that it was very important to increase users I think it went from 33 users to 47. And then the 2nd, 1 was also related to computer Internet access and website maintenance. We have a proposed budget amendment of 4900. There was higher service cost and maintenance costs for the website in addition to the rising Internet rates.

And that's something that we're, we hope to explore if see, to determine if there's any way to decrease those rates. We were locked into lower rates for the last 2 years and this current fiscal year they went up significantly. And then on the next proposed budget amendment Is a $5,800 increase to the electric charges. This was due to rate hike which some. Some rates went up anywhere from 10 to 20%, and this results in a 5,800 dollar increase.

And then the last budget may proposed. Is for the approval of a previous year grant. There was an organization that did not submit an invoice for their fiscal year, 2324 grant. That was approved by City Council. There was various attempts to contact this agency, but it wasn't until last month when they were doing an internal audit when they contacted the city and asked about their missing payment.

So this proposed budget amendment of 13600 dollars is to allow the disbursement of the prior year grant. And then the next department that has a proposed budget amendment is the landscape maintenance. This is a small one, but it's also related to PG&E's rate hikes and this was an increase of $600. And then the last department in the general fund that has a proposed budget amendment is the planning department and the total is $29,900 The 1st, 1 again has to do with PG and ease.

Great hike so the, the overage right now is 4900 dollars. So we're proposing an increase in the electric charge for the planning department of 4900. And then the next one was approved last city council meeting on March 12th. And City Council approved the contract with Cosmo and Associates for the preparation of the economic development element of the Comprehensive General Plan for $25,000.

Um, so I have an overview of the wastewater fund. Uh, this fund did not require any proposed adjustments but because we are doing a media review, um, I just wanted to show that our wastewater fund. You know, it's doing better we've received 46%. Of charges for services, um. We're at total operating revenue received the 45.86 of budgeted. And then for the expenses, we've expensed a little bit over 50%. Most of it is in operating.

Employee services is less than 50%, minor capital less than 50% and right now it's an operating deficit of a little over 300,000. And next the water fund, the water fund is doing much better with the rate increases. We've already received 52.98% of the current budget, which includes. Then the projected revenue from the increases in the rates. So, overall total operating revenues are at 53.71% and the operating expenses are below the 50% of 47.07%. And the water fund is showing an operating surplus of $214,362.

So, the 29,100 dollars that is being proposed is related to PG&E again. So we're proposing Utilities Electric for the water fund to increase 29,100 dollars and this will require a transfer of reserves of 29,000 dollars for a net change of zero dollars to the water fund Um, and then I just wanted to give an overview of how the capital improvement budget. Budget since that is our largest budget.

Capital improvement budgets are funded from the general fund waste water fund wastewater capital fund. Water fund water capital gas tax and measure 8 so we've expended about 3.22. Uh, the 14.8 we're still within budget and we're progressing through some of our capital projects at the moment. And as you can see most of our funding is coming from general fund that 1.7 million.

And that concludes my proposals for our budget amendments. And staff recommends that City Council approve resolution number 2607, adopting the resolution of the City Council of the city of Buellton California regarding mid-year budget amendments for fiscal year 2526 and I'm now open to answer any questions City Council may have.

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UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role57:43

Thank you very much we'll bring it back to council for questions. Okay. We'll bring it back to Council for questions at this time. Council Member Hornick, any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed57:51

Yes, thank you. Chanel, so when we have this surplus in our general fund, right, you mentioned it's roughly $4 point something million dollars, right? Is that based on overages from... I guess what I'm trying to get to is how do we get to that? How do we increase Do we have an expected. Like revenue target that we try and keep every year?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed58:23

Yeah, so we don't have expect the revenue per se, but our goal is to always have. Or revenue exceed expenditures, right? So in the previous 5, I want to say not 5 years like within 5 to 10 years. The city general fund has been pretty healthy where it's been operating in huge surpluses so every year those surpluses just roll over into the fund balance just creating that number or just making that number grow.

So every year we have a surplus. It just increases reserves, but we're not in the business of creating preserves right? We want to make sure that the revenue is coming on operating and doing projects at it's basic City Council priorities are what they like which is why we have the reserve policy which states if we do have a surplus this is what we can use it for.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed59:19

You had me up until reserve policy could you explain that to me again please

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed59:23

Yeah, so let me pull up that screen. Find it here. Okay, so our surplus is. Revenue minus expenditures so the 4.8 that you're talking about is our reserve level. So we have a 4.80 of available reserves are total projected reserves. is our fund balance of 9.2. So, our general fund reserve policy says that we must maintain 35% of our operating expenditures and that includes one-time payments which is about 4.4 so we're saying that we need to keep $4.4 in reserve for any emergency and the future.

If the city goes through another pandemic or any like a recession, we need to have that much money available.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:00:41

Okay,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:00:43

so our policy says anything above that? number is available for future use based on these allowable expenditures. And these expenditures are specified in the general fund reserve policy.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:01:02

I appreciate that, thank you so much. So staying on this PowerPoint slide that you have here we have hit the 4.4 million dollar 35 percent reserve target and we have roughly 4.8 left over correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:01:17

Correct.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:01:18

Okay and I guess my question was circulating around this idea that since we've been generating revenue every year, we don't have like a percentage target or anything like that right but it does seem like our current system of transient occupancy tax percentages and sales tax percentages have yielded what we need them to yield is that fair to say?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:01:42

Yes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:01:43

Okay, okay cool. And do we know roughly how much every year we're over that? That target?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:01:54

I don't have that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:01:56

currently.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:01:59

Yeah but a good source is to look at the ACFR. One of the statistical sections of the ACFR has a 10-year history It's a statement of. I can't think right now, sorry. But yeah if you reference the act for it has a 10 year history.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:02:24

Okay thank you Chanel no further questions. Councilmember Lewis any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:02:29

No questions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:02:35

Yeah, I just have one quick one. I guess Chanel. So if we when we go through this and we do budget amendments, do you then read like redetermine what the 35% level of the reserves would be?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:02:47

Yeah, every time we have a budget amendment, I will recalculate that number based on those operating expenditures.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:02:55

Okay, great. Thank you so much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:02:56

You're welcome.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:02:58

That was my only question.

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Okay, perfect. Thank you. My only question was just to kind of keep track of the narrative here. It's actually with the wastewater and the water fund. So I see that the water fund we're operating with there is a surplus taking place and the rate increase has started to come in for that. Is my understanding that the reason why the water fund is operating where that is Is there any public comment on Okay. We'll bring it back to Council for further discussion, comments and a possible motion. Any comments? Council Member Hornick? No, thank you. Council Member Lewis? No comment. Council Member Sanchez, any comments? No comments. Vice Mayor Mead? No
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UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role1:04:12

Great. And would anyone like to make a motion at this time? I'd like to make a motion to approve

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:04:16

the budget amendment increase.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:04:22

I second.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:04:25

Okay.

Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 motion to approve the budget amendment increase. I second. Okay.
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Council Member Sanchez? Aye. Council Member Lewis? Aye. Council Member Horne? Aye Vice Mayor Mead? Aye And Mayor Stolfa? Aye

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:04:34

Thank you, Chanel. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:04:41

All right. Mr.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:05:00

Thank you, good evening Mayor Silva and members of City Council. Before you for consideration is a proposed contract from Kevin Merck Associates or KMA for assistance obtaining permits from state and federal agencies for the road crossing project to the newly constructed Willamson parking lot. Since this access way would cross over and remove a small wetland area and ephemeral drainage stream to the river It is under the jurisdiction of the Regional Water Quality Control Board, California Fish and Wildlife, and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers so all of those jurisdictions are going to require permits for this road crossing.

So the proposal and draft contract is provided as attachment one to the staff report. KMA would prepare a compensatory mitigation monitoring plan for us, which is a required component to these permits. They would also prepare the permit applications through the three agencies and the cost for this work is estimated to be no more than $21,940 So, it appears this has not been budgeted for and a budget adjustment would need to be prepared.

The actual permit application fees are not included in this proposal. And they would be paid separately by the city and those are estimated to be around 10,000 dollars or less. And then also to note mitigation that would be required by these various agencies for impacts to the wetland and stream would be worked out through that monitoring and mitigation plan, and the permitting process. So we don't know exactly what those mitigation measures would be but it's anticipated that it would include protecting around three quarters of an acre on site for habitat restoration and native tree replacement But costs associated with these mitigation measures at this time is unknown. So those could be future costs coming back to the council.

So for the item tonight, the recommendation is that the City Council direct the city manager to execute the proposed contract with KMA not to exceed $21,940 and to prepare a budget adjustment for this cost. And that is all for me I'm available for questions thanks

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role1:07:26

All right. We'll start with questions for staff at this time. Council Member Hornick, any questions for staff? Council Member Lewis?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:07:32

Questions.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role1:07:32

Council Member Sanchez?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:07:34

Has anybody designed this bridge or is it going to be driving across the...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:07:40

Yeah Tetra Tech has prepared 100% construction drawings for it They may be revised as part of the permitting process to lessen the impacts, potentially. But those are available through the Public Works Department. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:07:56

haven't

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:07:56

seen anything of that somewhere.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:07:58

Those plans came to the City Council but it was some time ago. It's well over a year ago.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:08:02

Okay and then the span from one side

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:08:14

I don't have that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:08:16

length of the road. My question is if we're doing a bridge, how are we disrupting the waterway?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:08:22

So it's actually... The road is crossing and filling in where the wetland area is so it's not actually a bridge. It's a road crossing where this portions of the stream and wetland would be filled.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:08:38

We'll have a culvert running underneath the roadway at that point. So it's more of filling in the stream, building the road over with a culvert for the drainage to come out. The drainage course as it sits right now is I would like to start by saying that the city's design plans and our public works program, that is essentially a storm drain outflow channel. It is not looked at as a natural stream. However because nature has a way of intruding into things it probably This is not a bridge, per se.

The bridge abutments and such at the edge of the channel, there are usually impacts within the channel that would require that. But this is the least expensive approach to that. It's much less expensive than building a bridge. And given the fact we're dealing with what is essentially the outflow of our storm drain system and not a natural creek,

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:10:15

No questions, thank you.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role1:10:17

None for me do we have any public comment on this item? We'll bring it back to council for any further discussion or a possible motion at this time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:10:27

I do have a question what is the budget for this bridge for the road?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed1:10:41

I would move to approve the contract.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role1:11:11

Thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:11:15

All right, Mr. Mayor, members of the Council. We're on to item number 14 which is a discussion of potential relocation of a portion of P Sup Anderson's building

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed1:11:33

Good evening, Mayor Silva and members of City Council. A demolition permit application has been submitted by the property owner of the former P. Soup Anderson's building. This property is designated as a local historic landmark and as required of this designation it is required that the loss of this local historic resource is mitigated prior to demolition of the structure so the decision regarding how to appropriately mitigate The city is still awaiting the results of a historical resources report that will identify significant aspects of the building, as well as potential mitigation for the loss of any of those aspects. One method of mitigation could include the relocation of a portion of the P Sup Anderson's building that would likely be considered historic to median three on the Avenue of Flags.

As you are aware, we are currently also working with a consultant to prepare an updated concept for Median 3 for the future design of Median 3 which is the Avenue of Flags specific plan anticipates being the civic center and core of the city's downtown. So the question staff is posing for the City Council this evening is, does the City Council desire to allow the relocation of a portion of P. Soup Anderson's building on median three of the Avenue of Flags?

So ultimately getting an answer to this question will inform the larger mitigation effort related to the overall loss of the P. Soup Anderson's building. It will also inform the median three design plans. So staff does plan to bring back a full list of potential mitigation strategies at a future meeting once the historical report has been completed. However, it is important that staff has this question answered in order to move both the demolition permit process forward as well as the median three design plans forward.

They basically provided just very conceptual sketches of what it could look like on So I just wanted to show those. The property owner, P Sup Anderson's property owner and their agents.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:13:48

We'll see that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed1:13:49

So you can see, so it's kind of small but the green highlighted area on the existing P Sup Anderson's building is the portion of the building we would be talking about and then if you look to the right of the screen on median three that is a conceptual placement of that portion of the building placed onto median three in dimension so you can kind of see the size and scale of it I'm going to, you know really it doesn't have to go at this on this location on median 3 just a concept that they were showing for.

Just illustration and this is just again, just a concept illustration of what it would look like zoomed in on the meeting or could look could look. And then this is so this isn't I'll just elaborate a little bit. So, this is the portion of the piece of Anderson's building that we would be talking about is the former more hotel portion of the piece of Anderson's building which is this section here.

So again, you know what staff is looking for at this point is there or isn't there interest on the part of the City Council to further explore the possibility of relocating a portion of P. Soup Anderson's building that could be considered historic to Median 3? So that's really just opening it up for discussion of whether or not that would be something that the council would be willing to explore further in the future.

Thank you for your time. Yeah, because so to elaborate a little on that. So you know this is if the council we first just want to know if there's even an interest in exploring it further. So right so there's we there it's part of a larger potential mitigation effort and there's also other factors to consider. It's not just like hey does the council want it? We'd obviously have to look further into what that would look like. So yes it's more just a discussion and no formal action at this point

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:15:52

Thank you. Thank you. What we're really pushing for here, the reason we're bringing this to the City Council is there's a number of moving parts out there not solely related to the demolition of the building but the demolition of the building is kind of driving this potential need for mitigation. Then that may delay the further or the product. We have a lot of work to do on the design of median 3 until we resolve the issue of what portion of the building, how big it is going to be and what it will look like. If the council is of the mind that you know what?

That's kind of the big focus right now. The building, the portion of the building that's shown here is kind of a best guess of how much of that current building was part of this Bultmore Hotel that we suspect will be identified as salvageable or something that requires mitigation. It's, you know this is the kind of the architects best guess as to how they might mitigate it if it's required. At this point we don't know for sure that it will be. Are

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:17:41

they talking about rebuilding this or are they talking about just taking and putting it back?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:17:44

They're talking about cutting that portion of the existing building out and somehow moving it to the new location and then adding new roof elements, new siding elements, new foundation It's a considerable amount of work and it would require a bit of time to accomplish.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:18:03

Okay, cool I know that there was a historical museum Buellton in there did we get all this stuff out? I don't recall.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:18:13

The historic museum was operated by the Buellton Historical Society, which I'm not sure is even a viable entity anymore. I'm not sure it exists however From my understanding, a large percentage of the artifacts that were held within that museum have been recovered and are in storage at a remote location at this point. The question still remains who do those things belong to? How do we stand that back up now? A building such as this could house a historical museum We would need to figure out how we're going to reanimate that historical society, whether that's gonna be a city function. Whether there are still members of the historical society out there who want to carry on that work. That's a bit beyond where we're at right now.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:19:04

I'm not sure if that's the right way to put it. I mean, it is. I agree with you but I also disagree with you that it's beyond where we are because my next question dovetails into a discussion. Don't kill me. But my understanding was that at St George and his company owned this property, right? And he asked us to hold off because for whatever that's going to be in that parcel, if it ever gets developed. He'd want to have a cohesive sort of vision there that ties it all together especially since this is our defined economic corridor as I've always said right? So I think that all those pieces need to work in concert and that rendering strikes me as somewhat discordant from the other ideas

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed1:19:54

I'm sorry. So obviously with the avenue flag specific plan, the approved design style is art deco and this building is clearly not art deco so that's basically the crux of our question here given the building it is.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:20:23

No question. Vice Mayor Mead, any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:20:27

Just one just to clarify Andrea you said that the staff was going to be providing other mitigation ideas once the study is completed right so there could be other ideas coming forward once the study is completed yes? Yes that that is correct. Great thank you that's my only question thank you.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role1:20:47

My only question is What is there I mean, I was under the impression that the building was questionable in terms of resiliency of standing upright. Do we have an idea of the resiliency of this being able to stay up right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed1:21:08

So I guess therein lies the follow-up to my earlier comment of, you know, this is just one piece. Is the Council willing to explore further the possibility of locating it on the median? That is one of the other questions that we would have to look at. What type of retrofitting could be necessary to make it

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:21:24

a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed1:21:24

habitable standard?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:21:26

And that really kind of piles on with why we're here. I just want to make a quick point. Given the uncertainty of this, the feasibility of movement of this structure, even though the property owner has indicated a willingness to do it if it's required through mitigation, is the council willing to put There. If we move in that direction, we need to stop work on the median three right now and wait for this if you don't want to stop working then tell us you don t want to stop work and we're not interested in this and will know which direction to go. That's that's what we're up to another question.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:22:14

When are you done?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:22:17

So what's going on? Do we know what's going on with the proposed site of what was PCP Anderson's is that moving forward? Have we heard from St. George?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:22:48

We're pushing the demolition of this building so that we can ensure

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:23:10

We'll bring it back to staff or council for discussion. Councilmember Hornick? I'll defer to Councilmember Lewis. I always go first.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:23:18

I think that we have had a multitude of different discussions about Art Deco. I made it pretty clear that is not my favorite choice, however, that is the choice we've gone with and changing at this point in time would negatively impact people that have already I'm a huge supporter of preserving whatever we I would not be a fan of putting

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UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:24:33

Any

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:24:33

comments? Yeah, I don't think it's in any way feasible to do anything to move a building. I just think that it would never work. It would never pass any kind of inspection. It couldn't be built back to state standards or yet could be occupied or used if it was just going to be... That's a nice thought but I think what we have to come up with is another plan We're trying to get that site demolished.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:25:33

Yeah, I agree with council members Lewis and Sanchez. I think but what do you think is? I think it's a good idea. I think it's a cool idea to honor pea soup and, you know, heretofore legacy of Buellton But what I also think is that we can do that without trying to move a building that in all likelihood will require basically erecting a new structure. And so, what does that really?

Um, I like the idea of any kind of historical society going inside having said that I don't know that's even possible but what I think we really need to focus on is doing this altogether right? We need to have a unified plan. I'd be worried about piecemealing median 3 alongside. And I'm not sure that we're going to be able to. I would like to have clarity on what at least the developer is thinking in that site.

But this, I don't think we need to do this. I think that it would be great if you had some sort of honoring. You could have...I mean, I'm not a designer but you could have some idea. You can sell ice cream out of it, like some memoriam of PC Banderson's. You can sell pea soup even out of it right? But it doesn't need to be this,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:26:58

And if I can interrupt here, I will note that what we're really after today is whether it's appropriate on the median. There may be other locations where this could be done and if the developer is willing to do it and it's part of the mitigation, we could find another place for it. Whether it's feasible or not remains to be seen. Whether it's even required or not remains to be seen.

So I don't want to totally I'm wondering if there's a way to eliminate the possibility of this occurring or have the council get it in their minds that we're saying this isn't feasible. But there may be other locations that could go what we're looking for, is it desired by the council to put it on our

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:27:37

media? » I feel like it's a good idea We're going to do something like have a big P and happy and pee we are starting to split the P or something like that the kids can play on. I totally think that pays proper homage to, to PC Vanderson's whatever else but you know just lopping off piece of building and popping it there against our, our specific plan seems not to be the route.

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UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role1:28:13

Vice Mayor Mead any comments?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:28:15

Yeah, I'll just echo a lot of what has been said to your point Scott. I don't think that perhaps this could be in a different location in the city but I don't think it belongs on median three personally. I think there's a lot of other aspects of the piece of Anderson's building that I would like to see preserved that I'm hoping we can learn that maybe some of those mitigations can happen such as the stained glass windows obviously the big wooden picture I'm happy and peewee there's also beautiful railing on the inside of the building that I'm hoping is still viable.

So, I'm just hoping and to be those pieces, I think could fit a lot better with that art deco kind of Americana roadside experience. That we would be honoring not just P-Soup, but kind of the history of Buellton generally speaking as this like Route 66 Americana type town. So while I appreciate the effort of going through this design, I do not think it's appropriate for Median 3 and I'm very hopeful that once the study comes back we can get some better options maybe for what matches our design plan for Median 3.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:29:20

I think that's a mess. It was my understanding that there was still going to be a piece of Anderson's there, but that was part of the deal.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:29:27

That is part of the sales agreement that in my understanding, I haven't seen the agreement, but my understanding is that yes, Andersons has the right to move into the commercial project if a commercial project is built there.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:29:40

And I, I talked to St George one day talking about an olive tree that was there. He thought about cutting down using that in Anderson's because it was from the lawn does a big, there's a huge olive tree I guess and back that he was going to know but I think that maybe He's going to do something for PCP Anderson's and so maybe that'll be the part of what our preservation in the heart.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:30:08

We will have a separate discussion later on down the road as to what appropriate mitigation should look like here,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:30:15

but I would vote against the median three idea.

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role1:30:21

I agree. I would really struggle with an exception to art deco and have everyone play by our rules I'm disappointed to know that this is what we're being told is what needs to be. No, I don't know any community members who say boy howdy this is what I wanted to say from PSU Anderson's and I think a piece of Anderson's I think at this piece of it there's a lot better creative ways of what the community would want to see with like hold being held in honored and I I don't know if we've been clear enough.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed1:31:31

So we do have to go through the CEQA process, which is what we are currently endeavoring on. I don't have a clear-cut timeline on that but we do hope to do it as quickly as possible so if I had to pull out my crystal ball I'd say maybe three to six months and that's being generous like giving a little more time than it might be

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:31:55

necessary. A lot of that's going to depend upon how quickly we can get the historical report We have a lot of work to do. We need to get this finalized because that is the central piece of the CEQA analysis that needs to be done, which is why we're being very careful not to talk about CEQA mitigation tonight

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UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:32:22

Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:32:23

Well, you've got direction so thank you very much. Could we request a letter of intent that he's going to save some things? So maybe... So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed1:32:31

that would be what we would be bringing back at a future meeting in terms of, you know, staff will be coming back with the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:32:37

list. It seems like something that he would want us to know or that he would want preserve and let us

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:32:41

know that they were discussed. Yeah, that's something that... We discussed it previously with him and he seems amenable to something of that nature.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:32:50

Thank you. All right. .

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:33:10

Do not show up at 1003. Don't show up expecting to park and get there at ten minutes to ten. You should probably be there 20 or 30 minutes ahead of time to get a parking space and get to that park because at 10 o'clock it will start, and at 1003 it will be over. So the activities will continue but the egg hunt itself is at ten o'clock and it's relatively quick. The other thing I just wanted to bring to the City Council's attention is there have been ongoing discussions for a number of years now regarding Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I want to start by acknowledging the proposed swimming pool complex improvements at the San Ynez Valley High School.

You're all aware of it. The city has made a substantial pledge as part of their fundraising effort. The process is moving forward and we anticipate that the next step in I'm bringing it to your attention We have an aquatics committee that's part of our city council committee list. I should have checked that with our city clerk earlier today to find out if we have done that this past year, and if so who it is. If we have not, But we'll need that committee assigned in fairly short order because those meetings will likely start up here in the next month or so. So just FYI, that's coming down the pipeline and there is progress being made on both the administrative front as well as on the fundraising front.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:35:09

And with

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:35:09

that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:35:09

I'll conclude my report. I thought I was on the full committee. You may very well be. You

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:35:15

may

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:35:15

very well be, I just didn't check it. Okay. I will verify it and let the members know. It was Dave King and I for a long time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:35:25

At one point yeah we've got to I think we've reassigned the committees at this point.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:35:30

Well I'm on it so... Oh all right there

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:35:33

you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:35:33

go! I'm not sure about you John but I know that I'm on

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:35:35

it. Deputy City Clerk has a We're doing it live. We're verifying live. Yes, it is Vice Mayor Meade and Councilor Sanchez. Thank you very much. There you are. That's all I have for tonight. Okay do we have anything from... Oh I'm sorry I did have one more thing. We neglected to do this at the last meeting, but I did want to offer congratulations to our mayor for his recent appointment to CARB which is a huge feather in the cap for Santa Barbara County as well as the city of Buellton. Thank you very much. California Air Resources Board. Sorry, blanked on the R.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:36:25

Thank you very much. I saw that news before the meeting and I was surprised it wasn't mentioned. Well thank you. Congratulations!

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:36:34

I think we need to have it as an off comment

UnidentifiedMayorProposed · by role1:36:36

situation. I'm on APCD, so that's how I was eligible.

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