BodyCity Council
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 May 28, 2026

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed7:20

Good evening, everyone. I'm going

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed7:25

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We'll

Roll call, called by City Clerk
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have our roll call, please. Council Member Hornick? Here. Council Member Lewis? Here. Council Member Sanchez? Here. Vice Mayor Mead? Here! And Mayor Silva? Here
UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed8:07

Great and City Manager Wolf do we have any reordering of the agenda this evening?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed8:12

Madam Vice Mayor we have no reordering this evening. Okay great

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed8:15

Okay, so our first couple of items up are going to be our presentations. So our first one is going to be the proclamation honoring International Celebration for Biodiversity. It's my understanding that we have a few people here to make a public comment about this. So Deputy City Clerk?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed8:32

We do have multiple public comments slips. I will call speakers in order received each speaker will have three minutes. Um, so the first one is Eric Cardenas Thank you.

CommentEric CardenasProposedself-stated9:00

All right, good evening members of the council. Mayor Silva and thank you so much for having us and for bringing this proclamation up today. My name is Eric Cardenas with Santa Barbara Botanic Garden. I also am the co-chair of a regional coalition of over 50 organizations working across the central coast working on a number of biodiversity issues regionwide.

And namely we're just here to applaud you and acknowledge this proclamation today around biodiversity. The proclamation itself Recognizes the amazing bio region that we live in here in Buellton and Santa Barbara County, and it's a globally recognized biodiversity hotspot. So the resolution or the proclamation recognizes that it also starts to recognize that we are living in times of a biodiversity crisis. Where we're losing more animal and plant species at a faster rate than we have in millions of years. So, we're just here to really thank the council for elevating this issue of biodiversity encouraging residents individuals even elected agencies and elected officials to act around issues of biodiversity.

We're lucky that so much is already happening. The city of Buellton, you have your 1,000 trees initiative, your green team, rebates on landscaping and all sorts of things that are already happening that are really positive. We can collectively always do more for the Santa Barbara Botanic Gardens specifically we're interested in native plants and so if we can be a resource or city staff, City Council in thinking about native landscaping or native plant as part of lists that the city points to and uses for residents or its own agencies, we would love to be a resource in that regard There are other agencies and organizations that work with us on this biodiversity working group that have other expertise under the conservation and sustainability umbrella.

I would also love to be resources for you, so all of that to say thank you for your leadership. Thank you for your long-term vision. Thank you for elevating biodiversity in this area. You're joining a number of other municipalities that are doing the same thing, so we applaud your leadership. Thank you so much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed11:06

Next we have Stephanie Diaz followed by Teresa Riley.

PresenterStephanie DiazLand Trust for Santa Barbara CountyProposedself-stated11:13

Good evening, Mayor Silva and City Council members. I'm Stephanie Diaz representing the Land Trust for Santa Barbara County. And we're very excited about receiving this proclamation as Eric explained, biodiversity is becoming a very important issue. And we, the land trust is an organization that's kind of community wide in the Santa Barbara County area. The last 40 years have conserved 58,000 acres of land which is open space agricultural land natural features and species.

And our work we feel is reflected in much of what your proclamation says you know the saving of the open space and the green areas and the community resilience that comes from biodiversity Locally, the Land Trust has conserved land in the Santa Ynez Mountains and the Prisma Hills nearby Gaviota Coast and down the surrounding ranches and agriculture that you have in this area. And we feel that this saving of conservation of lands really helps for making this valley and Buellton a very special place.

The land trust is a member of the collaboration that Eric just spoke up and we feel that the importance is that we are looking at challenges, and we're also looking at opportunities dealing with biodiversity. The pressures that we Are concerned about right now have to come from climate change and habitat being fragmented and invasive species that are coming into the area. And also, when there's incompatible development.

And we feel the proclamation is really a support saying that biodiversity is something we want to protect and we want to restore where we can and have long term stewardship. We appreciate the city's proclamation and we hope to continue collaboration here in the valley. And, um, thank we thank the council very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed13:42

Thank you. And finally, Teresa Riley.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed13:48

Hello City Council, Mayor Silva and staff. Tonight I'm here representing We Watch and like Eric Cardenas I want to just thank you for all that you're doing as a city to make this a better place so we watch is a non-profit land use environmental organization focused on the Santa Ynez Valley I'm also joined here tonight by new board member John Barron, so he's here in support and we are focused on the city of Buellton and the area residents.

Good morning, everyone. I'm so excited to be here today because we support the work that you're doing to protect and restore biodiversity in the central coast and very delighted that Buellton is celebrating the UN day honoring the importance of biodiversity throughout the world. Riverview Park, the San Ynez Valley Botanic Garden, the tree city designation, And as well as approving the outdoor lighting ordinance, which makes a lot more difference than we would have thought where we learn about it.

Also commend you on beginning to work on the general plan update. I want to thank you for your continuing commitment to caring for the beautiful natural world in which we live here in the valley and will support you in this work. I'm also an individual involved with full interest, with nature track, with taking kids out into nature. I am still on a high from being at the beach today and getting that nature deficit disorder dealt with. So I want to just tell you when It makes a huge difference for them for the rest of their lives. So I want to see Buellton have more opportunities for children's recreation, but including the natural world. If you're promoting biodiversity, you're also promoting the pollinators that we need for our whole ecosystem here.

So from me and from We Watch, I just wanna thank you and commend you and keep going. Okay great, thank you so much.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed16:00

That concludes public comments. Okay, great. Okay, so I'm gonna read the proclamation. So the proclamation honoring international celebration for biodiversity. Whereas the United Nation has declared that biodiversity loss, climate change and pollution are the three major threats to global sustainability. And whereas biodiversity loss is happening at all levels including the worldwide insect population, the loss of almost one third of North America's birds since 1970 and the shrinking of local marine populations both plants and animals And whereas the state of California has identified the protection and restoration of biodiversity as a critical priority through major initiatives such as the California Biodiversity Initiative in 2018, which commits the state to conserving 30% of its lands and coastal waters by 2030.

And recognizes biodiversity as essential to climate resilience, food security and human well-being. And whereas California's natural and working land climate Start smart strategy recognizes biodiversity conservation and habitat restoration as essential components of the state's climate mitigation and adaptation goals, encouraging local governments to integrate nature-based solutions into land use planning and community resilience efforts. And whereas local efforts to preserve native species restore degraded ecosystems protect pollinator habitats and expand green infrastructure within the city of Buellton And are already part of some of the local planning efforts within existing agencies in Santa Barbara County. And whereas, the region's diverse terrestrial ecosystems including oak woodlands, coastal sage scrub, chaparral, serpentine outcrops and riparian corridors and wetlands are home to numerous rare threatened and endemic plant species such as the narrow leaf milkweed, Santa Barbara honeysuckle and the La Prisma manzita, as well as hundreds of native wildlife species And whereas the marine and coastal environments of our offshore off our shores including kelp forest, rocky intertidal zones, upwelling zones and offshore areas such as the Channel Islands in the Chumash Heritage National Marine Sanctuary support vital biodiversity including endangered species such as the southern sea otter leatherback sea turtle and migratory whale populations.

And whereas these ecosystems are not only Thank you for joining us today. We are excited to welcome you to the city of Buellton. Thank you, Mayor Buellton. The city of Burlington is committed to addressing climate change and unsustainable development underscoring the need for urgent coordinated action at the local level and whereas it is imperative that local agencies recognize the region's native flora, fauna and marine ecosystems, support local protected areas and urban biodiversity initiatives, commit to integrating biodiversity considerations into city planning decisions including use Thank you so much.

And now it's picture time, so I'm so sorry. Would you care to come up here behind the dais and get a picture? Okay, come on up.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed20:02

Thanks for coming. This is for you. Come on in here. Yes, yes, yes. Great. Okay, no problem will do. Thank you so much. I love this meeting. Thank you so much for your support. Just be careful. Thank you. I have the same high school account.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed21:30

So we're having a little technical difficulties, so we're going to call it five minute recess on those of you that were here for the proclamation for biodiversity if you would like to take your leave now would be appropriate. Sorry, Aileen and Vincent, you are gonna have to stick around a little bit longer.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed21:43

Okay? Thanks everyone for your understanding. Next up, we are going to have the presentation of certificates

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed30:12

Thank you for being here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed30:14

I live in Santa Monica. I'm the wife now of Gail Williams, and Gail and his brother Norman who lives here in the Valley established the scholarships more than 25 years ago. I don't know the exact number but both of them had been born Uh, in Nebraska and has spent their early years on the farm. And also had a great deal of place to date, a great deal of value on education.

So they went in many different directions after their initial schooling colleges included and did a variety of different things but wanted to be able to offer Opportunities to our next generations down the way. To be able to have choices and to be able to have education to enable them with whatever they could could achieve so it's their privilege, our privilege to be able to continue that. Those scholarships and we're very happy to to help them. And it's going to be Thank you so much. Thank you for coming.

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CommentVincent GuerreroProposedself-stated32:04

Hi, so I'm Vincent Guerrero. I am currently going to San Ynez Valley High School and I am graduating tomorrow which is exciting. I plan on going to Cal Poly in slow and as my second option would be Allan Hancock College in Santa Maria. So I've lived in Buellton since I was 10 years old when we moved over from Solving It wasn't too big of a change for me since my grandfather and my aunt and her family had already lived here, and my mom grew up in Buellton as well.

How can we make Buellton even better than it already is? It's an amazing place to grow up in. It's safe. We can take walks in the evening without fear. And we can leave our doors unlocked without worrying about people breaking in. It says about picturesque as it can get as far as small American towns can go. So looking closer, nothing is perfect growing up in Buellton and the valley itself. I've noticed that it's getting harder and harder for people to move and afford to live here.

I've noticed some of my neighbors have sold their homes and are moving out of state into other parts of California. I know that with inflation and rising interest rates, most issues with homeownership are out of our hands. And I'm aware that Buellton has been providing more and more low-income housing opportunities but sometimes the application process is too difficult for families or it's more of a short term placement for families as they find financial security.

Having Buellton be more affordable would bring more equitable opportunities for families to experience the opportunity I've had living here. And talking about the low income opportunities, I've heard my aunt she works with people helping people so I've heard of that Buellton is looking to create more of those low income opportunities for people. So the issue with young families not being able to afford homes in Buellton brings a different dynamic to our community.

If not enough families are coming with their kids, our population tends to be heavily leaned towards older members who might have different interests in our community and how they envision in the future with what we're doing with Buellton. So that would make younger families voices go unheard and there would be less younger population in our community. So having more activity facilities for families and kids would make Buellton a more exciting place to live. The local theater here went out of business, and now it's going to be turned into something else, and the plans for the bowling alley also got scratched.

So there isn't many places for kids to go and hang out. But I feel that if Buellton were to open up more places like this, it would encourage younger families with younger kids who come in Buellton and buy into Buellton, to stay into Buellton. An example from my own experience is having to travel far away Buellton here to play soccer. I played club soccer for seven years and we always had to travel so far away for tournaments, we would have to wake up really early and travel three to four hours. And then even at that, to have the expense of paying for a hotel room when we needed to stay overnight.

When we arrived, we were always tired, exhausted and sore from the long car ride. Our opponents were fresh and ready because they didn't have to travel so far And we were always at that disadvantage when playing. I know this is the same for other sports as well, like basketball and soccer and baseball, I mean. And with all this open land that Buellton has, I feel that we could create a sports complex for for other sports to come and play in our community.

And we can host a bunch of tournaments, and it would save ourselves the time from traveling and allow us to stay on even playing field with our opponents. I think this will also bring more families to want to live into Buellton, because Buellton is already a safe and family-friendly place to live. But I feel that considering these suggestions it would make it even better.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed37:01

Thank you very much. Any comments from the Council?

CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction37:05

Thank you. I know it's hard to get up and speak in front of people and microphone and public speaking all that, so I appreciate you doing that. And thank you for sharing your thoughts and super excited for you to be graduating tomorrow.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed37:17

Yeah,

CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction37:17

actually,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed37:17

I appreciate

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed37:19

it. We are always in mind to get sports fields. It's always a top of our list when we're working on it. OK, that sounds good. Publicize as much more talk about. Thank you. Yeah thank you, good job.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed37:36

Thank you for coming and then our other recipient is also going to speak Aileen Rico.

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CommentAileen RicoProposedself-stated37:47

Hi my name is Aileen Rico and I'm also a senior at Santa Ana High School graduating tomorrow too um I'm going to Cal State Channel Islands in the fall to major in biology and in the long run I want to be a veterinarian one day Hopefully. Buellton is a town I've grown up in and the place that has shaped many of my values. It is in the valley in which I go to school, where I work and where my family lives. What makes Buellton special is the sense of community but living here has also shown me that there's room for growth.

Making Buellton better means taking care of those who live here and creating opportunities for everyone to feel supported. One of the most important ways to improve Buellton is by strengthening support for families facing financial challenges. Many families work hard but still struggle to afford basic needs like food, housing and healthcare. I experienced this personally and have seen how much of a difference community resources can make.

Expanding food distribution programs, increasing access to health care and providing more support for families in need would help create stability. These are small changes that can mean a lot and have a big impact on people's lives. Another way to make Buellton better is by investing in youth education. Students need more opportunities for academic support, leadership development and career exploration. Programs that offer tutoring, college preparation and mentoring would help students feel encouraged and prepared for their future.

As someone who balances school work and family responsibilities, I know how important guidance can be. Creating safe spaces for students to study, volunteer and connect with others would help young people stay motivated and involved. Supporting local businesses and community involvement is also essential. Local businesses bring people together and create pride in our town. I have learned through working locally how important it is to support the people who keep our community running. Community events and volunteer opportunities help strengthen connections and create a sense of belonging. Making Buellton better starts with empathy, action and involvement. By supporting families, investing in youth and encouraging community connection, Buellton can continue to grow into a place where everyone feels valued.

I am proud to call Buellton home and hope to continue giving back to the community that has shaped who i am.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed40:10

Thank you! Thank you very much

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed40:13

Well, hopefully if you decide to become a vet in a few years, you can always come back and work at the Humane Society. You have a job right here. Yes, you can talk to Dr. Shank. That'd be great. Thank you for coming. Some really wonderful ideas and both of you obviously care deeply about this community. And I think what stroke me about all of the applicants to the scholarship but particularly you two are You're really thinking beyond yourselves, thinking about your community. And you're doing it with a lot of perspective and a lot of heart and a lot of empathy as you mentioned.

I'm so very proud that the two of you are products of Buellton like what amazing people we have representing our town as you go out and start the next chapter of your lives. So we're very grateful for you.

CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction40:58

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed40:58

you.

CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction40:58

Any other comments from council? Congratulations. We're very lucky to have you. Congratulations on both the scholarship and graduation, and I hope you come back and give us updates on how it's going. Thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed41:11

Are there any other public comments about this? There are

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed41:13

no

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed41:14

public comments. Okay, great. So we'll have Aileen and Vincent come up.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed41:29

Good job. Yeah, good job. Thank you for you. There you go. Congratulations. Oh, congratulations. Yeah. We're all friends here. One, two, three. Thank you. Have a good graduation. Thank you. Are you guys going to Sober Grad? Yeah. Good. I heard it's gonna be awesome. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed42:29

Thank you for coming, Dorothy. Really

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed42:35

appreciate it. It's nice to have someone from the trust

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed43:01

Hi, thank you so much for having me here. I came just to plant a little seed since y'all are working on the 2050 plan for our beautiful town and there are already so many great things happening here including the biodiversity and the students and fields So many great things. I just wanted to plant a little seed of a vision for 2050 as an area where we call ourselves a blue zone.

If you guys have not heard of that, just as a broad concept there are areas in the world where health and longevity are Embedded in the environment, in those municipalities, in those areas. And the state of health of our nation is dismal as we were talking earlier about biodiversity The biodiversity in our bodies as well and the number of chronic illnesses, more than 50% of the population is pre-diabetic. Almost 20% of the population in United States is diabetic. Another 10% have liver issues. 40% of people have two chronic illnesses.

So focusing on our health is imperative not just financially, emotionally but for the sustainability of our nation. We spend over 20% now of our GDP in health. So I want to urge you to think in those terms. So blue zones are places in the world that have nine specific pillars, and they are places where people move naturally, where people live with purpose, where there is an opportunity for downshift or stress management, where people don't overeat, where they eat a plant slanted diet, where people do drink wine. So another characteristic you know many of these things we already do where there's a focus on family and community, and there is a sense of belonging. So many of these things we already do. Now having a label of a blue zone in our restaurants, in our wine, in our community, it's something that I think can be very positive not only for health but for our economy.

So as you move forward with your plan, if you could think in those terms I think it would be extremely beneficial. So that's my two cents. Thank you for listening.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed46:07

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed46:08

Okay thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed46:09

Thank you for

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed46:09

coming.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed46:11

Back and clearing up a comment okay great thank you so moving on to the consent calendar would any council members like to pull

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed46:23

We have a public comment.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed46:39

I think that probably the appropriate way to do it is just to decide which items would be pulled from consent calendar. Approve the rest of them, then go back and do the other

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed46:48

ones. Okay. It's okay. So I'm asking Council if they'd like to have any items approved or pulled from their consent calendar? So what I said in the first place, I'm pretty sure. Is there any items that any council member would like pulled from the consent calendar?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed47:02

I have a motion to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed47:03

approve the consent calendar.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed47:33

I have a motion and a second.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed47:55

Thank you for your patience, sir.

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UnidentifiedCity ManagerProposed · by role48:25

You have our letter of objection, which we sent to all of the council members and all of the board members of Rancho de Marie. And we attached the agreement that is currently recorded. We attached the CCNRs and the conflicting memorandum of agreement You are denying Rancho de Maria owners their recorded rights to corporate governments in this agreement. The staff report has an error in it, the staff report indicates that the underlying agreement is 85046 727, which is really the CC&Rs. So there's an error fundamental error right there and what we're looking at is a change in maintenance violates the consent provisions of the CC&RS requiring owner member consent under section 12.11 roman numeral six Underlying agreement and CC&Rs 85-046727.

The MOA does not show any new legals for the easement that is not presented in a recordable format, so the existing agreement is recorded and what you're proposing is not recordable. You have to have legal descriptions which are drawn by the licensed land surveyor to show the new altered maintenance area of responsibility and liability, which the city would be assuming.

The city is altering the recorded agreements without the consent of the 152 owner members and altering title to the HOA common area. And this is outlined in the CC&R's. If you file this document with the city clerk, you will be violating California Penal Code Section 115 and filing a false document. The memorandum of agreement without authority of the owner members required by the CCNRs violates the California Doctrine contained in the Equal Dignities Rule.

The equal dignities rule is a variation on California law that requires the authority of a party to be in writing before they can execute a contract. The board of the Rancho de Maria One Association lacks such authority.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed51:36

You have less than 30 seconds, sir.

UnidentifiedCity ManagerProposed · by role51:39

You cannot re-regulate an existing subdivision after 40 years without the consent of the owners. The residences in this subdivision are going from between 700,000 and 900,000 per unit. Do the math. 152 units. Thank you. Staff report or comment?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed52:03

Yes, there's a couple I know that the City Attorney has some comment on this. I will note that we did receive an email from the Homeowners Association Board requesting an amendment to or an addition rather Thank you, Mr. Chair. Okay, all right. So the proposed addition to the agreement would read this MOA does not supersede the original 1985 agreement nor does it modify transfer or otherwise alter the Association's common area maintenance responsibilities under the Declaration of Covenants conditions and restrictions of Rancho de Maria 1 That would be the extent of that. So, that was a recommendation from the Homeowners Association. Staff would concur with that recommendation. I believe the city attorney has reviewed that as well and if you'd like

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed53:11

any... Sure, yeah just kind of two things. First, this city doesn't have the ability to change the CCNRs. The city is entering into a contract with the homeowners association which is governed by its elected board And the city has negotiated this, city staff has negotiated this basically what amounts to an implementation agreement for months now. This came up because certain maintenance needed to be done and it needed to be done over the area where the city has agreed that it will pay for work but where Rancho de Maria also agrees that it will pay for work. And it came to our office to look into it, and one of the primary issues that came up was that if they pool funds then the entire work is governed by California prevailing wage law. Whereas if the Homeowners Association does the work, or we split it out so each party does a share of the work then the city's share is still governed by California prevailing wage law because all projects of over $1,000 paid for with public funds are governed by prevailing wage law.

But the HOA would not have to be governed by prevailing wage law, would not have to go through an extensive public bidding process which they would if we pooled our money and did one combined project. So we were trying to work out an implementation agreement was put, what the mines came up with was what's in front of you tonight. This allows the two entities instead of pooling funds to each take a portion of the maintenance area and be responsible for that. It saves the HOA quite a bit of money while at the same time we feel Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I guess if I'm going to say anything in conclusion, it's that the city will be paying more than half of the total cost here because the city's 50% or thereabouts will be paid at prevailing wage rates. So figure the city is paying about 30-35% more to get the work on its portion done than the HOA is. So that's some background on why we did what we did in terms of violating the CC&Rs or changing the map, none of this very minor implementation agreement does any of that so I'm really not sure kind of what the objection is but we've reviewed the objection and legally you can go forward thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed56:09

Councilmember Sanchez, any questions? No. Councilmember Lewis, no questions. Okay and so I just want to clarify just for my own understanding the city... No, I was gonna say oh David I'm sorry it's come to council. I guess Mayor Silvinex that's weird I was gonna do him last sorry my bad

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed56:31

I just wanted to follow up and just confirm, the request that was brought forth by the HOA representative that you read Scott with that. Just to confirm staff and legal opinion was that you were okay with that being added or amended? Is that correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed56:55

for purposes of clarity yes that was always our intent so for purposes of clarity not a problem at all

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed57:01

okay just want to confirm thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed57:04

and that basically answers my question okay great um so all right honey would anyone like to make a motion

CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction57:13

I move to approve the consideration of approval of the MOA between the city of Buellton and Rancho de Maria homeowners association

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role57:23

Thank you. Councilmember Lewis? Aye.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed57:43

Okay all right thanks great okay thank you both for coming. All right and

moving on to item number 10, ordinance number 2605 an urgency ordinance of the City Council of the city of Buellton California amending and revising floodplain management chapter 17.04 of the Buellton Municipal Code. Unfortunately public director Public Works Director Rose Hess is unable I'm going to turn this over to our city attorney who has been

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed58:10

much more concise.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed58:36

By state and FEMA rules, it should be in effect. So what's before you tonight is an urgency ordinance that will go into effect immediately and by its own terms will cease to be effective once the permanent ordinance which you just did your second reading of in consent once that becomes effective this one will disappear This is intended to protect homeowners in the floodplain from having insurance issues because we wouldn't have adopted in time. It's the sole reason for it, everything else you already discussed two weeks ago, it's exactly the same wording so we recommend moving forward.

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Any public comment on this item? There are no public comments. Okay great, so I'll bring it back to council for staff questions. Any questions Council Member Hornett? Thank you. Councilmember Sanchez? No questions. Councilmember Lewis? No questions. Mayor Silva? No
UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed59:28

questions. Would someone like to make a motion then?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed59:32

I move to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed59:33

approve. Whichever one you'd like, Linda. I'll second. Great, thank Thank you.

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CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction1:00:04

Just one comment, it's nice to see life and vibrancy on the avenue. It was nice to see the farmers' market. It was nice to see the vintage Miss Daisy. Yeah, flying Miss Daisy. It's just nice to be able to walk to something, see people gathering and just that sense of community. So I think we're doing a good job building it up and definitely happy to see that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:00:27

Council Member Sanchez, any comments from you?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:00:30

I had some that just came up today. I guess there was another robbery at the jewelry store, there was a robbery in Los Olivos and in Solvang they had some big robbery. And I know I talked about it before is getting the cameras in town or the road for you know incoming and outgoing cameras and I would like to follow through with that at some point. I don't know if it's illegal or

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:01:02

nobody

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:01:03

is interested.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:01:26

Council members, Mr. Mayor, Madam Vice-Mayor, I do have a little bit of comment on this. I am very aware of what happened last night. We are lucky that the City of Solvang in the last year has undergone what they're calling the Downtown Safety Corridor Project. They added their own security cameras downtown. In that circumstance, they elected to not go with LPRs, the license plate reader cameras. But we are in talks with a variety of companies that offer those services and the city manager has reached out to me in the past and I'm happy to continue working with him if that's something you'd like to pursue. There are a number of companies that can provide that service and I'm aware, have had conversations with them, with the mayor, have had conversations with other council members about all of the concerns that come along with licensed place readers And especially in the public sphere right now, there's some questions regarding whether or not they're being used for surveillance and who has access to those.

But when they are in fact owned by the city, the city is the one who dictates those terms and we as your police will utterly abide by them. And they are a wonderful tool for law enforcement to use. Not only do they lead to apprehension identification but they can be used in missing persons cases. They can be used in just a variety of circumstances that you wouldn't traditionally think I'm happy to get some more information for the city manager and hopefully come back to you in the future about it. Would that be a consensus to put on here,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:02:54

gentlemen? It seems that way. So we're going to direct staff to please work with Lieutenant Henderson to get some reporting and get some information about these cameras. Thank you. Appreciate it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:03:05

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:03:13

I just want to follow up with Scott. I asked him a little bit about the Fire Advice Building, if he had an update on that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:03:20

I don't at this point, I had put in a request to Lieutenant Henderson. He immediately transferred this request over to one of the colleagues in the Sheriff's Department and I have not yet heard back from this person as to the status of it. In a nutshell when last we were looking at the fire and vice building there was some question as to whether or not The investigation surrounding the fire had been concluded. We obviously couldn't force the property owner to clean up that site if the investigation was ongoing, so at this point once we determine that the investigation has concluded, we will reach out to the property owner and get a plan together to have that property cleaned up We have a process for doing that, we will move through once we make the determination.

At this point I just need confirmation that there is still not an ongoing investigation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:04:22

I wanted also just to piggyback off of Council Member Lewis's statement about the Flying Miss Daisy event. The piece I also want to acknowledge is how many Avenue flag businesses brought up that it was a boon for them from an economic driving standpoint, the barber shop brought up that they had most walk-ins they've ever had, brand board brought up it was their busiest Saturday they've ever had We just saw a lot of ancillary benefit from it.

work to make this happen, to make Flying Miss Daisy happen on the avenue and I just want to thank the fact that our local businesses are benefiting from this additional foot traffic. Also wanted to bring up uh to everyone and all the staff that worked in all the businesses and to the council members who could join thank you all for being part of the Buellton State of the City and i think that uh the um staff member Mrs Fiery from our recreation department's here right now. I just wanted to thank as well that she was able to I know that we have our lieutenant with us today but a lot of conversation came up.

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us tonight. We're going to start with a little bit of background on the workshop that we had last night. I know not a ton of community members came up but there's a lot There's an intent of having a visibility cone.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:06:24

You're up again. Thank you. Thank you,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:06:27

Mr Mayor tonight through the vice mayor. We do know quite a bit about daylighting law went into effect in 2023 or excuse me it was voted into law in 2023 and for those of you that don't know what day lighting is. Daylighting is the idea of providing distance between crosswalks and intersections where parked cars do not park immediately adjacent to the right hand turn in two way streets, and there are some little bit of differences in one way streets prior to this law going into effect. It was a standing law in the state of California that you couldn't park within 10 feet of stop signs regardless of whether or not it was marked as a red curve. What the daylighting law did is effective January 1st, 2025, it extended that distance to the national standard of 20 feet and this is regardless of whether or not the sidewalk is painted red.

There are a lot of municipalities that saw this law and looked at the very cumbersome task of repainting hundreds upon hundreds, if not thousands of curbs along the cities. And the conversation I had with the mayor when he brought this up and asked I pointed them in the directions of some of the bigger cities who obviously had tens of thousands of intersections and how they chose to address this issue. And one great example is the city of San Francisco, and they did this in a... They are actively doing this project. I believe they're in step three of it. The first phase of their plan was The first phase was addressing the intersections that are close to school zones. That was their phase one, where they actually marked out where the high traffic areas were in school zones and they painted those curves red.

Once they moved through the city and addressed all those areas, they moved to their high traffic areas and commercial districts and addressed those red curves. And if you are, if the city is considering striping these curbs to make it easier for drivers to identify areas where they can and can't park and make it so that visitors to the town are also aware of it. I think that three stage approach is reasonable. It is not overly burdensome on public works.

Apropos response to who needs to be addressed first. As far as the sheriff's office is concerned, when it comes to enforcing this as your police, we... When people bring up these issues, when they do see cars parked in these zones, we obviously respond. It's not necessarily something the average cop is out looking for unless there's direction from the city or perhaps there's an event where we need to be more proactive about it but we are very much taking in the first few years of this We are still in the warning phase of this.

It would lead to higher visibility and education for the public in the fact that they can't park there. But it would also make it much more palatable for the average cop to write a citation to people knowing that everybody knows what a red curb is, even if they don't know they can't park there. And I'm happy to take your questions if you have any Mr. Mayor, Council Members.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:09:59

Does anyone have any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:10:00

Thank you, Mr. Pinnerton.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:10:05

I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor. I just want to make a comment about the fire hydrant restriction of parking. Everybody knows I'm against red curbs anyway but we don't even mark the fire hydrants because it's a lie you can't park in front of a The people that are around this town, if they need a place to park then more red curbs. If somebody parks within five feet of a crosswalk and it's not a problem I've never had a problem with that and I just really would like not to make it an issue and make it a problem I don't like red curbs and I don't like parking restrictions.

And I think everybody knows how to park, and if it's a big law we could put a sticker on a window but to put red curbs all over town? Like I said, I adamantly oppose enforcement of this law especially with the 20 not even the 10 anyway that's my comment

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:11:27

I'm at this point also being mindful that this is a comment, Council comment. I want to be mindful of being mindful that it's not an agendized item. I just would considering the fact that there is a state law that is in effect that has a safety element to it. I would like to look into consent for at least an agenda agendizing this discussion because it is an existing state law And I think there's a lot of discussions about liability and safety. We just had a huge safety conversation about this as we're trying to make Buellton a safer location for it, so I'm just wanted to bring it up that I think would be worthwhile for us to agendize this discussion further so that the council could have this open discussion about it since it's not agendized tonight.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:12:06

I would like to ask a clarifying question if I may without getting too much into the non-agenda is conversation how does Meeting the bike safety meeting that we had.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:12:21

Oh, it's been brought up about bike safety in general in the city of Buellton. And one of the big ones is kids zoom out through intersections and that when you have cars parked up against intersections or crosswalks or anything, you have less visibility to be able to see them going through. And so if you have the cone of visibility, that is thought as a way to help avoid people who are riding their bicycles through intersections and cars who cannot see them.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:12:50

I'm happy to bring it back as a discussion item for a future conversation. Would anyone else like to do that? I mean, obviously Mayor Silva do. Yes, happy to have a conversation. Okay, great. So we can direct staff to probably talk to Lieutenant Henderson maybe we can find out a little bit more details about San Francisco. Did I just make that up? The way that it got rolled out in San Francisco because that seems like a very thoughtful way of doing it obviously around schools is really important. We want to protect our students and our children in this community and then we can probably roll out from there so

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:13:19

If we're going to bring it back for Councilmember comments or an agendized item and give staff direction, I would ask that staff also look into options to roll this out without red striping if it's possible. But we just generally let people aware of it. You know, give people a warning and roll it out as well. I mean, if...I don't know what the options are, if there are any other options but per Sanchez' comment that is an option It's been brought back for discussion so we

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:13:50

stay within not being an agenda item.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:14:12

Mayor Silva, do you have any other comments or items? Okay great. I was also going to comment on the state of the city but we already took care of that excellent work to the staff it was amazing great job mayor Silva obviously painting our town an incredible light and we're doing great things in Buellton so well done I also wanted to say thank you to Alison Fiery, Holly Sierra and City Manager Wolfe for the incredible city and schools program that just wrapped up. We had all the fifth graders here they elected a mayor they elected a city council it was incredible they had some really heated debates about sports complex and splash pads and it was really exciting to see those kids excited about civics and I know that there was a lot of reporting.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:15:14

Thank you. And I'd also like to call out Council Member Sanchez, who was chairing a meeting in this room and very deftly removed that meeting so that the kids could come in and take care of business. Thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:15:27

It was my pleasure. And it was also enjoyable. I got to watch, which I wouldn't have come to watch, but I enjoyed every minute of it. Thank you for all the work with the fifth grade class, and they did a good job. Yeah, thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:15:38

you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:15:38

Shout

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:15:38

out to teachers as always. All right, so let's move on. Any written communications tonight?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:15:44

None this evening.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:15:45

Okay great and we'll go into committee reports. Council Member Hornick any committee reports? No. Council Member Lewis? Nope. Council Member Sanchez? No reports. Mayor Silva?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:15:57

Only one, we had an SBCAG and APCD meeting but the SBCAG conversation was based around findings by SBCAG that there were no, there's a transit need assessment. And basically they take public comment from around the county of are all the transit needs being met? And it requires kind of opt in for people to provide that feedback. And then it synthesized and decided if this has been identified by public comment is it a reasonable transit need to meet based upon X I just wanted to bring it to our attention though that there was some discussion about when can these be done? Can they only be done through specific meetings or specific time frames and they are receiving those public comments all year round. So you can at any point, just want to bring up that if the SBCAG is accepting transit needs comments year-round and so if any community member address that they feel like there's a need not being met within the City of Buellton, you can submit that request into SPCAG and that gets added to their list for being reviewed through that.

And so it's something to do an annual review of we had no transit needs not being met this year or this year that was viewed as being reasonable to me but I just wanted to make sure that we're aware of that if you hear of anyone saying that they feel like their transit needs are not being met you can submit comment to SPCAG.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:17:15

May I ask a question? Sure Do you know, does the SBCAG transit need also incorporate like our train, Amtrak train usage connection? Or is that a different committee?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:17:28

That would be through, that's a much bigger agency with rail. This would be more being viewed at more from like paratransit bus, those types of things. So it's more from a transit that is controlled within our systems whereas rail is an interagency one There are ways to bring up a request for expanding those rail services, but that would be through the low sand which is where you have to start getting L.A., Ventura County and Santa Barbara County and that's more of a different direction for that. But if you have anyone who wants to have that discussion I'm happy to get you in touch with Mayor Perotti who serves on that with the Galena City Council she would have better ability to tell you how to navigate that system.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:18:08

Okay so no not really or follow-up offline?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:18:14

Let's follow up offline on that. We'll help figure out where to get your concern to.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:18:21

Okay, I have one committee report. Actually Council Member Sanchez and I attended the ad hoc aquatics meeting for the pool situation. Big meeting lots of people there was representatives there from the districts representatives there from the City of Solvang obviously we were there from the city of Buellton and then there was board members from the Aquatics Foundation most of the conversation is We are working on a joint use so that's the idea. A lot of the conversation was just talking about scheduling, finances, kind of making sure everyone is putting their input in. We do have another meeting on Monday and we will keep you updated. Did you want to make any comments about that Councilmember Sanchez?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:19:14

And all the parties were pretty agreeable. There's still a couple of things that have to be worked out and approved by the board, I believe, still with our MOU. So it was a good meeting. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:19:27

Yeah, thank you. OK, moving on. So now you're really up. So we've got general law enforcement update from Lieutenant Henderson, Staff Contracting Manager Scott Barker

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:19:38

Thank you, Madam Vice Mayor. As you mentioned, Lieutenant Henderson is here to give us an annual report from the Sheriff's Department on our law enforcement situation and I'm going to turn it over to him. Great,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:19:49

thank you. Thank you Mr. City Manager. Madam Vice Mayor, Mr. Mayor, Council Members, thanks for having me. When the city manager and Mayor Silva reached out to me earlier this year about coming in and giving a law enforcement update, I opposed the idea of making it a regular Thank you, Mr. President. I would like to start by thanking the board for this annual report that we can provide to City Council regarding calls for service in the area, major incidents and I love taking the opportunity to talk about great things that are happening around the area with our individuals and the city. First off, I wanna thank the City Manager and the staff for the project that's currently underway at the Buellton Substation. We're calling it the Buellton Substation Refresh, and we are very excited about that in the city stepping up to refresh the interior of that building with paint and flooring and blinds and just the little things When you do come to work in a place every day, it is nice to come to a place that you enjoy coming to.

And I would be remiss if I didn't take a minute to point out some really great city staff members JC and Marco. I've known them for years through other projects and I can't think of two gentlemen that work harder and are more accommodating and friendly to deal with. And i'm lucky to have her sitting here she doesn't know that I was going to say this but behind me is one of our administrative office professionals Miss Christina Rubio She is the young woman who greets Buellton City members every single day when they come into the Buellton substation. And she is really the catalyst behind this project, she has been driving it asking for it following up on it and making all of the many accommodations that have to occur to move an entire office out while still continuing business.

And I'm lucky to have her as the lieutenant here in the valley and the city is lucky to have her greeting everyone with a smile everyday so thank you Christina and thank you to the staff. It's also award season when it comes to our individual members through the variety of places around the county that give awards and several of our sheriff's deputies have received awards this year, whether it be through the Sheriff's office, the Gary Awards or the Rotary Foundation. The first being Deputy Christian Harrington. He received the Rotary Awards First Responder Award for his performance over the last year, he was nominated by his supervisors here in the valley for his work that he's done. So a young man who grew up in the 4-H community in Nuku'yama and ended up becoming a cop because of a family mentor that brought him in we're lucky to have him.

Specifically the thing that was highlighted by his supervisors was a string of burglaries with the help of his partner, Deputy Miguel Rodriguez. The two of them were able to put together a string of burglaries that occurred all throughout the valley from San Ynez to Solvang to Buellton. They were able month later to track down the many conspirators that were involved with this and ended up serving a variety of search and arrest warrants in Lompoc where I believe five suspects were arrested and held to answer in court and $60,000 worth We're lucky to have young deputies like that working for us here in the valley.

Next, I'll highlight the pretty spectacular work of three of our deputies, Lieutenant Jarrett Morris, Deputy Daniel Nova and Deputy Truitt. They were awarded the Sheriff's Lifesaving Award this past month We're going to talk a little bit about what happened during the winter. Lieutenant Morris was driving home after a different shift somewhere else in the valley and he was driving through Buellton on 246.

Despite the fact that he was off duty and about to pull into his driveway, he stopped got out and found that individual suffering from many stab wounds. And he was actively bleeding out on the sidewalk. He called for assistance began applying medical aid to that individual when Deputy Nova arrived The suspect in the stabbing appeared and began verbally assaulting them and throwing things at them as they tried to save this individual. Deputy Truitt arrived and was able to hold that individual at bay while Lieutenant Morris and Deputy Nova physically dragged him to the fire station where paramedics were waiting to treat him, And lastly, I want to take a minute to highlight one of the wonderful sergeants that works here in Sergeant Froster was not only awarded the Sheriff's Meritorious Service Medal, but also the Gary Award for his conduct above and beyond the call of duty when he came in for a night shift and found out that a individual had been reported missing many hours earlier during day shift at the beginning of shift.

And that investigation didn't believe that subject was in any distress or danger. He was simply reported missing and potentially distraught Sergeant Frosto knew that individual from his previous career and remembered that he was a fan of the outdoors and camping and hiking. So once he cleared briefing and finished calls for service, Sergeant Frosto began driving the back mountain roads of the San Ynez Valley. And just before midnight, he encountered the subject's vehicle a quarter mile from the Kachuma Saddle.

The victim was in distress from a suicide attempt where they had taken an entire bottle of pills along with blood pressure medication and other meds. And when Sergeant Frasco came to the vehicle, he thought the subject was already deceased and was able to open He then dragged him to his own patrol car, put him inside and drove him Code 3 down the mountain drastically reducing the time that medics would take to get there and handed them off. And as a result of his actions, that individual survived and is in the midst of recovery not only for I just want to take a moment to acknowledge all of the individuals that were involved in the shooting and the circumstances that drove him to the suicide attempt. So these are the individuals that are working in your city and are responsible for our safety, As I begin the presentation, I wanted to talk a little bit about what we're going to see tonight as the city manager brings it up for me.

Before I get started, the stats I'm about to talk to you about are a combination of two different reporting systems. The one that we are all familiar with is the UCR, the Uniform Crime Reporting that goes through Cal DOJ and eventually to the FBI. is the old system that we are in the process as the Sheriff's Department and law enforcement nationwide of phasing out. We are now transitioning to a system called NIBRS, which is the National Incident Based Reporting System.

The sheriff's department went live with this in fourth quarter 2025, which is one of the things that led to the delay and being able to bring these stats to council. Because for the last three months of 2025 we have to read the NIBRS stats and decide what would have been a UCR stat so that we could give you an apples-to-apples I'm going to talk a little bit at the end of the presentation about what you can expect I'll explain a little bit about that at the end.

calendar year 2025 stats. They are the stats from last year and my intention going forward would be to give this presentation to you next February, which will give our statisticians a month to gather the data and then be able to figure out which city council meeting in February you'd like to have it presented. So if we can go to the first slide. So this is a recap of the part one crimes. I'm going to talk a little bit about at the end about what how Part One's going away, but Part One crimes are the reportable crimes underneath the UCR as the most serious crimes in the next slide we're gonna see what types of those they are but just so you can tell as a just a real recap of it I want to start by saying that we saw a 25% decrease in part one crimes.

And that's it's really just wanted to but if you'll see in 2024 with 71 part one crimes and in 2025 we have 53 park right apart one crime this is a pretty significant reduction regardless of what the percentage says you can just see by the numbers it was a pretty significant We had a significant decrease in the 2024 to 2025. We had a 44% decrease, 52 traffic collisions down to 2029. I have an anecdotal reason why this occurred but I can't point out what it is statistically but I can say in the last six months of 2025 there was a motor officer sitting on Route 246 every single weekday and We saw a 1.5% increase in calls for service.

We saw a little bit of an increase from 24 to 25. On the next slide, we'll see these are what are actually reportable under the old system of UCR as part one crimes. These are your most serious crimes whether or not they might be violent felonies or property crimes, homicides, rapes, robberies, aggravated assault, burglary, larceny, motor vehicles theft and arson. Under the UCR these are the things we report.

And you can see this is where I like to look at the numbers as opposed to the percentages. Homicides, any homicide is serious but we have been lucky knock on wood over the past few years maybe thanks to the efforts of Lieutenant Morris that we didn't have one in 2025. Rapes were seeing a pretty consistent average of 1-2 per year and robberies are down from 3 is our highest number in the last 4 years from 2022 down to 0 in 2025 This is not just simple assault. These are results resulting in people actually having serious physical injuries, and we did see an increase in this. It's hard to point out why this might have occurred whether or not it was one large incident There was a surge in domestic violence that potentially led to more injury.

We did see an increase in that over our four-year average. Burglaries are down, this number does fluctuate. Sometimes we can see these numbers move if there's a particular group of individuals who might be victimizing people across time and across space. Luckily, where I saw our lowest level in the last four years at six Larceny, we're down from our highest average or highest number in the last four years which was 65. This is your simple thefts. This is thefts from front yards, thefts from unlocked vehicles, theft from grocery carts, thefts from things that were left in the back of a car.

That's what larceny is opposed to burglary which means someone actually entered a business or a dwelling with the purpose of stealing once they got inside or committing any other felony. Motor vehicle theft is significantly down we saw a decrease down to seven. We've have our numbers over the last few years, which is great to see and then arson. When the city manager was speaking earlier about the fire and ice, we work very closely with our counterparts at County Fire.

Specifically Captain Jay Snodgrass and his crew. They are the arson investigators for the county but they also investigate the cause of fires all fires regardless if they're purposely set or not. And knock on wood again like our homicides we've seen zero so I can't point at any specific trend that leads to this. These are just the numbers and it is nice to see that they're trending down with very few exceptions.

Next slide. This is a representative representation, just a bar graph of those same numbers overall numbers from the last four years. And as you can see we are moving down at a pretty predictable rate on as much as I'd love to see it maintain or go lower. We can all hope for it to continue trending down so next slide. Here's our calls for service, which is a little bit different than the crime numbers might suggest when it comes to part one crimes. We've seen an increase in our calls for service and this was a question that city manager had for me is why would we see an increase in calls for service like this when our crime numbers are going down? But like I said earlier, calls for service are anything related to a deputy I'm a member of the public initiating contact.

Right? I'm going to tell you at the end of this presentation our motor officer has been busy. And that does it for the numbers here. But like I said, I want to talk to you a little bit about our motor officer, Deputy Anthony Blanco. He's been working here since July. We love having him here. He is one of our newest motor officers and he is excited about this job. He loves riding his motorcycle. I don't know if there's a more picturesque job for a cop to have than riding a motorcycle and I'm a little jealous he gets to do it.

In through this fiscal year, not the calendar year. So starting when he started in July, Deputy Blanco has issued 474 citations. The lion's share of those were issued here in the city of Buellton. He does work some specialty details and it's hard to pull those specifics stats out but since July he's issued 474 citations and within that We pulled the numbers for the overall vehicle stops that have been conducted in the same time frame. There have been 1,432 vehicle stops in this fiscal year in the city of Buellton if you remove the traffic accidents from that number or then are that's 1383 self-initiated stops here in the city of Buellton. That is both our motor officer and all other deputies working within the city limits, so those numbers specifically add to those calls for service I was talking about.

While the numbers I gave you on the screen there were from calendar year 2025, in the same time frame while Deputy Blanco has worked for us, So we have, if you could go back to a couple slides back. We're already at 4100 calls for service in the fiscal year so if we see half of that here we are approaching July I think that we are going to We're going to have even more calls for service in calendar year 2026. So that's great news. I know the city was excited to have the motor officer here full time he is clearly been effective if we need anecdotal evidence, He's out there, he's working. Our deputies are pulling people over and people driving on the 246 to and from Lompoc and to and from Solvang. I don't want to forget that Freedomsport Canyon area in front of the car dealerships where they spend quite a bit of time or actively trying to let people know that this is not a place we'd like to see them speeding.

So, that concludes the numbers for the year. I will take your questions in just one second. I do want to speak a little bit about transition to NIBRS and why NIBRS is different than UCR and how next year's presentation is going to be very different. When I talked about those Part 1 crimes there are Part 1 and Part 2 crimes in UCR The reason that we did not add part 2 crimes to this presentation is there is absolutely no apples to The UCR made us pick one.

And there's a variety When we look at that data, we're not getting a great idea of what really occurred and able to track what our actual issues are. Under NIBRS, NIBRs tracks much, much more data. It tracks crime types across all crimes and reports all of them in parallel as opposed to picking one. It tracks things like suspect to victim relationships. It tracks things like age of victim and suspect it just, it's a much more holistic view of what crime looks like and it's going to be a much more vivid picture of the crime that is occurring in our communities so I would like to just preface We're not going to be able to look back and be able to compare 2026 2025 and earlier anything more than.

Anecdotally, because we're not going to be looking at the same data. I'm happy to take your questions.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:41:17

That yeah the total cost of service for 2026, the first half of which we're not doing through yet but are already 4100. No

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:41:24

I'm sorry that that will the fiscal year 2526 is 488 so yep we are halfway through that we've only got another month and a half left in there.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:41:35

I'm sorry so okay so it's on track to be roughly a little bit more than done the 4253 got it okay thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:41:44

Thank you. Any other questions? Okay. Council member Lewis. No questions, just thank you very much. Council member Sanchez.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:41:50

Um. The homeless or the transients come in their panhandling and do we have any big crime problem with them

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:42:09

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Any problems criminally? We have received a number of emails that we are seeing specifically in the Riverbed and by the De Maria housing area. And we are actively going out and contacting them when we do know about it, we are in constant communication with our encampment office at the county that is working on river bed cleanup ideas.

But no I can't specifically point to

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:42:55

And the UCR when you had to just pick one crime, is that intentional to show there's less crime? Not that we use it came up with the idea only have one to pick from. But it seemed like if you have two or three crimes and you can only report 1, it would make you look like there was less crime because you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:43:15

could only report 1 of them. Well, Council Member through the Vice Mayor. I can't speak to what the authors of the UCR were thinking that decades ago that they came up with why they picked that but I can say in 1999 we had an almost global catastrophe because programmers were restricted to using megabytes of space when they wanted to use gigabytes of space and it may be related to just the burden of tracking statistics via paper and pen and or typewriters at the time.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:43:48

Mayor Silva, any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:43:51

No questions. I just thank you for this presentation and I also appreciate being able to kind of disseminate the information of oftentimes the things we're always combating in law enforcement is that crime's actually down but the opinion of crime going on so I really thank you that that is through your agency's diligence of making our community safer so thank you for everything you guys are doing

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:44:10

Thank you. I just have one question, um, just about the traffic. Is there a particular or just generally out there? Is there a particular area of the 2 46 that year that the patrols have noticed like this is literally where people speed constantly like like is it is it? Is it farther out like people zooming in from Lompoc? Is it that cruising in from solving? I was just kind of curious about it because obviously someone who drives here often. I just want to make sure that I'm being safe if there's crazy drivers out there basically so like what's what's the trend I guess Or is it kind of everywhere

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:44:41

Madam Vice Mayor, the only opinion I can offer is through my own experience of doing this job for 20 years. And what I can tell you is the places that we see speeding the most and if I were a young cop looking to address speeding it's the transition from high speed areas to lower speed areas so our two most So that transitional space where people realize they are now in a new Traffic regulated zone is very much the place where we see the most speeding and it's the easiest place to speed too because you were, it was legal to be traveling at one speed and then in a heartbeat. The speed is reduced by 20 miles an hour.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:45:50

Well, thank you for all your diligence on making people slow down as they come into our town. I know something that we've talked about often and thank you for your report and I mean so it sounds like next year when we look at these numbers from neighbors they're kind of going to be a lot lot different. So that'll be interesting to see.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:46:04

I can tell you that it's been a Herculean task for our data unit and they are We're actively working on ways to make it more reportable, not only just in an annual report but in a more frequent basis whether or not it be quarterly or monthly. It's something that we can physically give to you I know that we reported each month to the city council through the city manager of our hourly rates are calls for service and we're very hopeful that in the near future we're going to be able to provide you those kind of statistics on a much more than annual basis so much more informed idea of what's going on in your town, as opposed to waiting for me to come in February and tell you what happened.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:46:47

It sounds like you're going to need a lot of Venn diagrams though since it sounds like some of these, the crimes are going to be overlapping in the new system so it's gonna be hard to really figure out. It'll be an interesting statistical thing to look at that's for

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:47:01

sure. Do you as the new system is it gonna be tracking just to piggyback off of Councilmember Sanchez's question? Is it gonna be tracking any of sort of the homeless calls for service or anything related to the transient

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:47:14

population? We do track calls related to homeless, but that's through our computer aided dispatching system where it comes to the calls for service not necessarily the crime reporting statistics. So that is a trackable metric when we do have calls that are specific to homeless in nature and that's not. It's not just a homeless individual committing another crime.

I'm going to start with a little bit of background on this. This is an individual query, but oftentimes that might not be the way that an individual deputy clears a call. For example, for the council's edification when a deputy clears a call for service we clear it with a clearance code which tells our dispatchers and our computer-aided dispatching what the ultimate disposition If it's a car stop and it's related to just a simple traffic citation, the clearance code is gonna be traffic. If there is a call related to someone in the riverbed or perhaps a panhandler that call might be cleared as homeless. And so it's not an absolutely perfect system for tracking the question that you're asking but it is queryable.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:48:44

So there would be potentially just categorized differently. Yes, because you know a battery from homeless individual would just be like a battery from house individual. Correct okay thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:48:58

Great well great thank you so much for your time in the presentation and we really appreciate all the work that you and your officers are doing to keep Buellton safe so thank you so much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:49:05

Happy to do so. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:49:12

All right, great.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:55:01

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:55:18

Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of Council. Over the past few years the City has supported through Arts & Culture Committee a variety of cultural events, musical and theatrical performances, and public art initiatives. Currently, the committee receives funding in the amount of $100,000 per year to support these types of projects And we have found that over the last year or so, we have been receiving more large scale and annual project requests that if selected for funding could require a disproportionate share of the available in their budget.

This is an example of one of those projects, the Buellton Mosaic project was bought before council and funding was approved in the amount of $30,940. The applicant stated later that the cost of the project would be significantly higher and they submitted an adjusted budget which is an attachment to on March 4th, 2026 At that same meeting, Mayor Silva made a motion for staff to agenda as a future business item to discuss additional funding for this project and others like it. So our goal and purpose in bringing this discussion before Council tonight is twofold.

First we would like direction on what you would like to do with that poppy project if you do want to fund the gap, the additional $14,550 in order to complete the project. We can look at alternatives, such as structuring a portion of the difference is a texted tax deductible in kind donation for projects such as these. And then the 2nd thing that we wanted to bring before you is just a.

And I can read that now or later of what they would like to see and everyone has a copy of that in front of you, but we would like to see as far as how. They would love structure funding structured moving forward may I read that at this time? All right, so this is from our co-chair. One of our co-chairs Stacy Kiss and she says at its core the committee sees its role as identifying and supporting new emerging arts culture and community experiences. Repeating funding repeatedly funding the same projects year after year limits our ability to do that it crowds out fresh ideas new programming and first time applicants who could genuinely expand what Buellton has to offer The committee's feeling is that once a project has demonstrated community value through initial arts and culture funding, it has effectively been given a strong foundation by the city.

At that point if the council wishes to continue supporting it, the more appropriate path is a separate city managed funding structure ideally its own dedicated budget with its own application process evaluation criteria and parameters tailored to long-term or reoccurring programs This deserves arts and culture funding for what it does best innovation, experimentation and community enrichment.

We have a number of different types of events. Examples of that would be the request we get for the same types of events every year. The rec center already has the facility staffing and infrastructure in place to administer and grow these types of long-term programs, We do have another member here tonight, Kristen, who has brought the banner project to us several years. So she's an example of one of those kind of annual requests.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:59:40

Okay. Is there any public comment? There is no public comment. Okay great so let's bring it back for council questions to staff.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:59:52

Hi, so I guess my question probably more to Stacy. But if you know did she have an idea? Or is there like a groundswell of potential projects that aren't getting funded through the arts and culture project that she feels like well these bigger projects are really taking over all our budget and therefore this is a problem or is this sort of something she's foreseeing as a potential item?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:00:14

I think it's more keeping in mind knowing that those requests are coming while we're reviewing other requests. So, for example if we know the banner project is coming to us like it does every year, we know that Discovery Days from the Children's Museum is going to be asking for seven to ten thousand. We know Fall Fest is going to ask for twenty thousand every single year. We're having a continual discussion of well we know that's coming in so do we have to kind of I think that's actually why we're having money left over at the end of the year because where.

We know that those are going to take up such a big chunk of funding every year.

CommentVincent GuerreroProposedself-stated2:00:50

Good point

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:00:53

she even brought up, but she would rather see our. Funding go down to let's say 50,000 60,004 new projects and have that other money allocated towards a separate.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:01:07

That's an interesting point.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:01:10

Council Member Lewis? No questions, just comments. Okay. Council Member Sanchez any questions?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:01:20

No.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:01:21

Okay, Council Member, sorry Mayor Silva any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:01:25

The only one I have is, if I remember right and I just want to know if it's in the bylaws or any kind of governing document for arts and culture. The stance that at one point I feel like there was this kind of idea that it was only intended to be funding a project one year, two years maybe but then it was like...I just wanna know, is that just kind of word on the street? Or was that actually kind of the intention?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:01:49

So we brought that up when we revised our policies and procedures. You do have a copy of that in front of you. It was brought up in the discussion, and it was one of those things that they said we should probably talk to council and see what they think about this. I would say about half of our members said, I love those. We know that we have success with those. They become something that our community looks forward to, and we like supporting that. And it's becoming part of our cultural identity and then the other half of our members are saying.

You know, if we're funding these same projects every year, are we not? Really leaving room to encourage new applicants and. Leaving enough in budget for those different projects.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:02:32

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:02:32

you so my question is do, you know how much the recurring projects cost? Like, like the banners or like the built in of the strings and things like that. So when we're looking at these recurring costs, can you give us a little bit of a general idea what they what those are?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:02:50

I would so citing the examples I gave you earlier the. We have for the past 2 years given the fall test to 8000 dollars. We have given the discovery days for the children's museum 7000. For 3 years in a row, Kristen I think then it was 23. 3000 if so those are those are 3 right there. The poppy the 1st poppy project was in the high 20s and 2nd limit we're looking at tonight.

Came in at 32 and now it's at 70. Again, same applicant same thing we're looking at other projects like that for instance there the friends of the library are coming with another request like this or a mosaic at. The library location so we know things that are coming our way and. We're spending a lot of time at meetings saying until you have further clarification how to.

Is this in our wheelhouse on so I mean, right there and if you would be in favor of doing another theater project that was at 48 8. And I'll say we went over it and we're lucky that we had a lot. We had private sponsors and not just because we tried to include so many community members and we made money on the show which then paid that off.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:04:10

And then how much I know this was the second year that you guys had the built in strings project.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:04:14

Yes, I'm sorry. That's 20,000. It was 15 the 1st year and 20 this year.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:04:20

Right so even if you're just talking about. The built in strings, the ball fest, the children's museum. The banners, I mean, that's already 58,000 dollars which is over half of the budget right? And so and then with the play, I mean, you're done.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:04:35

That's our 100,000 right there.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:04:36

You're done so there is if something doesn't what I'm trying to do so it looks like if something doesn't change like you don't have the budget to have these new projects like Stacy or maybe some other board members are kind of those experimental or brand-new projects These are already set. Since we've already approved them, it seems like to your point people seem to really like them so yeah

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:04:59

okay and they've been successful projects that's why we funded them year after year but at some point we worry they will take the place of new products.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:05:07

So is the idea then like is the I understand this sort of trying to get direction from the city capital but I mean, from staff is the idea of maybe it's better to separate a separate tranche of funds so that we could also sponsor new projects because it also sounds like. A lot of those all those projects are good products and. I mean, I know the idea that they could be on their own feet and be successful but. I mean maybe here for staff from any which I think everybody agreed was more successful than anybody thought it was going to be.

Is itself funding? Probably not correct right? So. Yeah, seems like it's going to be an ongoing funding

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:05:48

concern.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:05:51

Was there any recommendation there?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:05:56

They would like to have either an increase of funding, where we can say and know from you what projects you would like designated for that yearly thing. Or they would like to separate it out and say we do not do reoccurring projects or if there are parameters around permanent things or things on city buildings that that would come directly to council. And you would decide on a case-by-case basis if you wanted to fund that. And then again the recommendation at least for the arts, the performing arts programming They would like to just see that become more of a rec center programming and increase our budget through that, which I would say as a staff member. I'd prefer that in just in that we can still get sponsorships and donations through the nonprofit that we used for Annie but I believe it actually strengthens our long term programming.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:06:47

So if we did as suggested, which I think is a good idea but If we separate out the performing arts and loop it under Buellton Rec. And then we also do come to Council for one-off large art installations, that would free up a significant amount of this budget right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:07:05

Yes sir.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:07:06

Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:07:07

We would just need parameters on what we should direct to you and what you still want us to look at.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:07:12

Yeah.

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CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction2:07:15

Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:07:27

I'd love to get your feedback as the finance director. Like, I understand that you're looking for direction from staff but this is obviously a big financial thing so financial perspective would it be better to pull out these annual projects? Pull out the play and have it under Buellton REC and then have something separate like what from a financial standpoint what would your recommendation be?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:07:51

For transparency and record keeping, it would be easier just to split them. Um, if we have your arts and the current arts and culture general ledger number for 1 pot of money, uh, and then have another pot of money for the permanent city projects. And me and Alison spoke a little bit about the. Plays in theatrical. Aspect being part of rack. But as I mentioned, I think from a financial standpoint it is easier when you separate out especially for transparency.

So, I mean that would be my suggestion. But I'll leave it for Council for discussion. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:08:40

And to clarify when you say permanent city projects do you mean also these annual ones that come up every year? Like the banner project that were clearly does that with that would you consider that as permanent? Are you literally talking about like a sculpture on a medium?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:08:53

Yeah, I'm talking more of sculptures. Murals mosaic. Um. I mean, we could have another jail for annual it just gets a little bit more complicated not complicated is just. If council wants to separate that out and as a different budget line item, we could do that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:09:14

Okay, but the way you're describing it then those annual projects would still be under the art and culture one pot line item right? Yeah. Okay okay great that's my only question thanks Chanel do you have something to say?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:09:25

Yes, thank you just um finance director Zamora pointed out that the transparency benefits and such for or separating those funds out uh and I wouldn't disagree with The first thing that I would like to have the council consider before you make a decision on We just want to make sure that you're aware of what the financial implications of that are. If you pull $40,000 and make that a line item but you don't remove $40 from the arts and culture budget all of a sudden now you're spending $140,000 a year on these types of projects instead of 40 so Council has full discretion to spend as much money as you like, but I'm in the mode right now based on where we're at and where our budgets are right now. Where I'm sitting down here monitoring this real closely.

And I'm going to bring things like this to your attention as you're discussing it. Having done so, I'll be quiet now.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:10:37

But I just want to be clear though, we're not talking today about funding an ongoing project of $40,000 every year in the recreation budget. We are just saying future We

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:10:54

have a lot of work to do to nail down those numbers. I just want to make sure everyone is thinking about it the same way as we move forward so that your recommendation is not based upon an

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CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction2:11:15

I have a couple of thoughts on it. Having multiple different avenues where we're saying, hey this is arts and culture but if it's this kind of arts and culture you gotta go here. But if it's that kinds of arts and culture you go here so I don't have any issue separating the funds like if it a permanent thing, if it'a mosaic, if its a structure that makes sense to have a city line item for it. It also makes sense to make the theater plays stuff like the parks and rec thing. Like I fully get that but I think that we still need to use the arts and culture committee and their application process as the funnel, and it all goes through them. And they say this is ours. You need to take this here or you need to take this to the city council because.

You're going to just frustrate the bejesus out of people if you're like, sorry, you used to go there. Now you need to go here. Oh, just kidding not there they're like I would like to avoid that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:12:19

Yes. Can I piggyback on that? But also I'd like them to act as the funnel like you said at the filtering like yes, I want the arts and culture committee to screen it and say yes we think this would be a good idea going forward or yes, you know But I also am in favor of if we're taking certain permanent things out, reducing the budget not to be punitive. Not because we don't think

CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction2:12:36

you're great but because. I don't want to spend $200,000 because we're separating things now. I'd like to maybe increase it a little bit if we know we're taking on theater or a one-time structure or whatever the case may be but I do think that we need to right size that budget if we're going to sort of evolve.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:13:07

So I'm hearing that there are procedural concerns There may be some desire on the part of the Arts and Culture Committee but there may be some desire on the part of the City Council to address some things from a policy perspective as well. How do we go about ensuring that there are additional funds for new projects without totally wiping out the prior projects? So maybe if this is It sounds like we need really a It goes in the right direction.

There seems to be enough confusion on both sides of the issue here, so if that sounds good... I'm still

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:14:33

here. I guess I didn't ask you. You'd like to double? You don't want to spend $200,000 but do you want to spend more money and have it go through the Arts and Culture Committee as I understand it?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:14:48

No, no, no,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:14:49

not

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:14:49

me.

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CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction2:14:55

If we're going to separate now, like. I don't want it to become 200000 dollars. I want to try to keep the budget if we need to increase it a little bit because we're taking on new projects and absorbing some things that's fine but also. I don't want to create another job or needing another person to go through applications that type of thing like, I want to try to keep the efficiency that we already have with the.

We need to make sure that we have the structure and hierarchy. We already have in place, but not balloon it to where we need another person. We needed like.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:15:27

Great efficiency. It's got are you saying that your suggestion is to take it back and work it with the arts and culture committee? And staff and say how are we going to make this work like

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:15:46

We can discuss process through that discussion. Also the policy side of it, there's a lot of things that the Arts and Culture Committee works through when they review these applications that I'm not privy to at all so I don't know what their criteria are for evaluating a project. So it's important If we're going to come back, if rec staff or city manager or someone is going to come back with recommendations to the City Council as to how to make this work I think it's really critical that we get the feedback of the Arts and Culture Committee who has been dealing with this. Letting us know what's working, what's not. Where the pain points are within the Arts and Culture Committee. As was mentioned there seems to be a We're going to have a split of opinion on the committee as to whether or not we should be phasing some of these projects out, or whether we should be holding some of these projects longer because they are great additions to the community.

Those are things that we can kind of flesh out through a side meeting and bring the results of that back to the council and look for maybe even provide some recommendations

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:16:52

Okay, is that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:16:56

The only question would be then what are we doing about the mosaic project? Oh and I'm sorry Mayor Silva do you would like to say something?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:17:02

I've been wanting to jump in here for a while so can I just catch up on the thing and then we'll go to mosaics but um I was just wanting to say to give my own two cents of my direction would be I think we should try to preserve...I would like to have arts and culture be the funnel. I think that we should look into a pot of money for one-time funding that really keeps the incubator essence of it. Like this should be a pot of money that is, this is the first time they've ever come. It's a high risk no known reward type of thing. A separate pot of money that's still managed by the arts and culture that is for two years plus that allows them to do it. Maybe we have a year where you don't have a lot of new projects going and suddenly the pot of money that's not used from the first year projects new ones can You know, flow into the repeating one.

So you have that kind of autonomy. So I just wanted to put that out there if like, I think a cascading order that allows arts and culture now I've got 30,000 40,000 whatever it is for only new off new projects coming to it so that they're not competing. I don't think we should have a risky 7000 who knows if it's going to work compete against unknown quantity in the same way. I think that loses some of the innovation that we're looking for in it I think moving the theater concept into direct sports is a great concept. I think the one-off funding for mosaics or any kind of permanent installations should be purely a council discretion one we should have to sit with that about oftentimes it's going to be on city buildings too so i think that'd be good for them to come to us because that is a higher ticket item for it and so in wrapping all of that up though Why did I lose my train of thought with all that?

Oh yeah, to the mosaic piece. I would just want to say for that one as well, I think that it's a bit out of scope for what we are looking at financially with the increase from what was originally approved to what we're talking about right now and so I would want to explore what would a tax deduction donation element look like. I know we've created a foundation for that and if the vendor is open to the ability to receive that as a means of compensation I think that would be a worthwhile venture for us.

So there, I said it all so I didn't have to ask you to come back to me.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:19:03

I think I agree with everything you said. Can I just ask? I want to ask staff about that since we're pivoting into the mosaic piece. What would an in-kind tax donation look like? How would we help fund with that? What does that look like?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:19:19

I think it might be a little early to try and answer that. When we're looking at something like the mosaic project, I think what's being asked for to look out there is to say okay the city is willing to pay a certain amount of money which falls short It seems that what we're being asked to look at is, how would we treat the difference in such a way that could be seen as a donation to the city as a tax write-off? And that's something I'm going to have to consult with the City Attorney about because we start looking at gift of public funds and how that plays out.

Unless Mr. Murphy is prepared

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:20:12

As I say, from a donation standpoint or foundations with that since that's my day job. What we could look at is even just being like you can't donate labor necessarily but you could do in-kind donation of materials and so you could even structure it that way where we look at it where it's like the city is looking at that. So I'm just saying there are opportunities where you can even code differently what an in-kind donation looks like between labor and materials. And so I would just say that might be a good thing to explore with our City Attorney and the vendor about how that might work with their business model.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:20:40

Thank you. Councilmember Sanchez?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:21:00

I think it's really cool to have that off site more or less even though they could come here and try And one time, it takes a little bit of the burden away. But we are asking for more money and if we put it all into the Arts and Culture Committee they would have to decide what's ongoing and not ongoing. So that's, if that's what the ask is...

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:21:45

I would not like to increase the funding

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:21:50

It's my understanding that we're giving direction to staff to have a separate meeting with the arts and culture committee to come up With the culture still being the funneling mechanism to then determine what projects we they bring to us and then basically either council or cultural committee can make a recommendation of what part of money it comes out of. And then in addition to that, we're directing staff to look at possible material donation for the mosaics as an in-kind donation and tax write off.

That's my understanding.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:22:28

I don't think we're telling staff to go figure out which pot of money this is going to go

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:22:31

through. No, I just want the recommendation on what could the pots of money be? Could it or is it a permanent one and is it just arts and culture and it's just permanent? Is it the play is part of rec and it also you know what I mean like we just want recommendations on how could we delineate the money differently. Right. I'm not even, I don't care which ones they say. I just want them to give us some options so we can see them all.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:22:53

May I ask a quick question and also just make one point? I will say what i'm hearing from you guys is that you still want arts and culture to be the funnel no matter how this Okay, thank you. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you. And I think it's important to understand that. Their recommendations as the funnel have been over. There are a lot of times getting override when they come here to counsel and so there has been a lot And so I just wanted to put that out there as you're as you start thinking, I did give everyone.

And I just had one clarification question. We have our last meeting of the year and we have four proposals coming to us on June 1st. Would it be better for us to, if that money is indeed going to be rolled over to next year whatever we don't spend would it be better for us to And I would like to have those applicants come to us for our first meeting in the next year rather than make decisions on this now without parameters. It

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:24:34

is going to be rolled over. Do we know that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:24:36

Well, I don't know. I know it has been traditionally but I don't know if that's ongoing and so I guess that's what we'd like to know is should

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:24:49

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:24:49

you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:24:49

If the large calls committee held back and didn't spend all month, we would have something ahead so when something big did come it would be there but it's always from the We're going to be looking at a fund for those bigger projects.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:25:22

I was just making a suggestion of concept, options for us as a starting point. Things that might be worthwhile to explore. The direction is to have the arts and culture committee flesh this out knowing where the council's ideas are it seems and kind of be like okay we took the feedback that the council gave You know, have you guys bring that suggestion forward? And I do also want to reinforce that. I know that this council me being one of them as well has often heard 12,000. Well why not 15 and I want to just respect that. I think our council members need to also be thoughtful of that can be very detrimental to ownership of these projects so i think it's a good thank you for bringing it up Miss Fiery as a reminder for us that we need to um

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:26:13

Can I ask, is that what the concern is from the council? Overridden meaning do we choose to allocate more money than

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:26:20

That has been brought up because sometimes we're thinking of that amount knowing that a lot of times we know what proposals are coming in and we're already interested in that or we know one of the annual ones is coming back that we wanted to support so we're keeping that in mind as we look at things. Also I think wanting And it was given and thankfully so, but had that been a big disaster. That would have been you know, and so we want to be really mindful of especially 1st year projects.

Making sure that whoever's bringing them forth has the qualifications to execute them. We've had a couple of projects in the past few years where the marketing and the presentation looked very glossy and beautiful, and the execution has fallen short. And so I think we do love supporting the projects that have really come through with a punch but. You know, we want to be careful with the 1st year ones too.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:27:17

I mean, it sounds like council has agreed with. You know, the committees. I think it's a good idea to go back and see how we can work out some in kind. Reduction of costs here. Because we already designated like 40 odd thousand dollars of that, right? Are we also giving direction to set up a separate fund for larger art projects or not at this time.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:28:04

So it's up to the council, but it might be worthwhile waiting to see what recommendations come out of the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:28:08

committee.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:28:11

And then just kind of get direction on our June 19th meeting, would you like us to postpone those projects until we have further clarification?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:28:17

Are any of those projects time sensitive? Right that's what I was going to say. Are they like summer?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:28:22

Is there anything for the summer?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:28:25

We have not for summer but now we're moving four times a year So we're going to need again until September and one of the requests is for a November project. And so that when I think they would need to know, I believe everything else. I would defer to you all if you think

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:29:15

I would, I would want to clarify something that It is a rollover. I don't think it's ever been a question. No,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:29:24

there's not the question. The question she was asking was not whether it was a rollover but how it should be rolled over and whether or not the projects they have in the lineup should be discussed next week or next month rather or wait until later.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:29:39

But they know how much money they have now and what's coming next year?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:29:44

Well we will know that we have left We're going to be spending about $32,000. Depending on if we're spending that 32,000 on the poppy project. If I make that does factor into whether that money is going back in for instance you got you had approved. We're going to do the same thing on a much larger scale with this poppy thing to consider in our last meeting of

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:30:19

If I'm, I would say I would rather let's have this be it's easier when you do things on a fiscal year change. I think I wouldn't act. Let's have the baby solve the projects that you have for the June 9th meeting under the current criteria to the best of the committee's ability and then create a going forward project. I don't think it's fair to have any of these projects caught in limbo because we're trying to establish policies.

I think that I would suggest that like let's just close out the year and then have the new fiscal year policy.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:30:46

We assume that we are holding that 32, though in the pot to roll over should you approve the poppy project difference?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:30:55

I think that we can approve the poppy approval above and beyond whatever is, this is me obviously just me talking above and beyond whatever is currently allocated. If I recall correctly, Council, the Poppy Project came forward and they were ready to do it with our original gift of funds. And then I believe Mayor Silva you suggested hey if this is going to cost more come back so

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:31:23

It was brought up about, you were saying how there was a discussion. Sounds like the Poppy Project causes most of this confusion with us all but it was the discussion that they said we were kind of told the project changed under that type of thing. But yes I think we should have that separate.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:31:36

The point of that though is just that yeah they were ready to go forward though so I think they should still be ready to go forward absent the additional funding am i wrong about that does anybody know? I

CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction2:31:48

think they go, right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:31:52

So just to remind you the original situation was they came to us with a different proposal for 2 smaller projects at the parks on bathroom doors. The committee at that time said we would not be interested in this. We had a meeting with the city council and they said we would like to see a revised rendering in these renderings. What we would rather see is you come back to us with a revised rendering and a revised budget if necessary for completing the post office project first because it didn't, we felt like it didn't look complete.

They came back to us with a revised rendering but did not come back I think there is a little confusion between us and the applicant of them saying, well this wasn't originally what we proposed. We were just giving you what you asked for but what you asked for is a different budget and so I think what I would say moving forward is or could we negate that current thing and have them actually just come back with the current budget and look at it that way and see if you would want to fund it at $70,000 or whatever it is Um, because we did ask for a revision. We just said we weren't interested in their initial project but we would be interested in hearing their thoughts on a new 1

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:33:08

so. I think that's an awesome project and I would love to see it happen, but I think that might be the right way forward. Like, to hear other council members thoughts on that though.

CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction2:33:21

I think that this project particularly, it really no longer fits in the arts and culture space because what we're really talking about is not like an indie or a grassroots thing. We like what was done. We are now as a city kind of reaching out and saying we want you to perform for lack of a better word this decorative renovation And it shouldn't be under the auspice of the committee, the Arts and Culture Committee. And it should just be the city engaging for this project because that's really what it is. It's they came and wanted to do their grassroots thing we said or they said not interested. This now becomes the city really wants like council wants this poppy done so it's less of an arts and culture and more of a we want this renovation.

For lack of a better word. So I think we

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:34:15

feel

CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction2:34:15

yeah, I think we remove it from the arts and culture committee and I still think the direction go get the policy updates do all the things but I think this project needs to be pulled because it is not an Arts and Culture Committee project. It just isn't but

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:34:27

I do want them to come back.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:34:29

It's not an arson, it's

CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction2:34:30

not

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:34:48

I think this is the desire of the Council to see this project completed so we can look at it from something outside the scope of arts and culture. That's not a problem at all. So if that's the direction you want to

CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction2:35:03

go,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:35:05

if that's the direction the council wants to go in the end My understanding is that we would pull that project off of the Arts and Culture list, ask them to resubmit another proposal for completion of the project with up-to-date costs. The $32,000 or whatever it was originally allocated as part of the arts and culture grant for the project when it was initially submitted would go back into the pot of arts and culture money. And if it's not spent in this fiscal year will roll over to the next fiscal year And then the city council can decide if the project moves forward, it's going to have to come out of general fund or through some donation somewhere along the line. So if that's the understanding, I think we can work with that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:35:54

Yeah, yeah,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:35:55

that is but I have a question. So is is the prior grant of funds? Is that is it Can we call that back? Or are they already? We have that? Can we legally do that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:36:07

I think the only question we would have for you or for the applicant is maybe giving them the choice that do you want to continue the project at what was the project we want, at the original budget? Or would you like to rescind that funding and come back as just like a city funded permanent art installation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:36:28

With the understanding that we're going to look for some in-kind donation to ameliorate And

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:36:35

then we will look for additional opportunities.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:36:53

And if they want to come back for a different proposal, we will also look for those in kind.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:36:57

Yes. But if that's the case than that, then that 32,000 would go back in the pot and we would look at some other funding option from the City Council directly.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:37:06

Right. Do you want to talk about pulling out $32,000 of general fund now or just leave it?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:37:13

I have another option and a question If the project is $70,000 and we've already approved $32,000 with the Arts and Culture Committee, would a question tonight to be for us to fund the project as presented for the extra $40,000 We have a $30,000 budget that you want it. Everybody wants it and it's already set up and they already get all the plans then done to ask they're ready to come ask for it and $32,000 is set up to come out of the arts and culture committee so the extra money.

Is either going to be 40,000 that we give to complete the cost of it or Is that right? So if we voted to give the $40,000 tonight to complete the project. Then it would be yes then when they have their meeting on the 9th, they'd say this is funded from works and culture without going from making it all different.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:38:22

Yeah, we could I think say that. But I also think the direction was to have staff look if they can ameliorate or reduce the costs, right? Some in-kind donation costs, right? So we don't have to fork over full 7K. Does that make sense?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:38:35

Yeah. And I would put on my nervous Nelly hat right now and say maybe the time to make that determination is after you've seen budget presentation for the next fiscal year.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:38:47

I know we're going on budget.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:38:48

All right. OK.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:38:55

Thank you. Is it clear what staff needs to bring back? All right. Thank you, Ms. Fiery. Appreciate it. All right. And we're on to our last item which is in the back of my packet now. Okay. Great. So this is item number 13, request to waive requirement for storage pools at Santa Rita Hill self-storage project located at 33 industrial

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:39:33

Good evening, Mayor Silva and members of the City Council. A proposed development project entitled Santa Rita Hills Self-Storage which is proposed to be at 33 Industrial Way is requesting a waiver from the Story Poll requirement of the Buellton Municipal Code. The Buellton Municipal Code allows for the city council to waive this requirement for story polls upon request from the applicant A development plan application is currently in process to build the self-storage or to bring it forward for public hearing, to build a self storage facility.

And the project itself will be brought forward consideration at a later date. What is being considered this evening is whether or not the project is required to install story poles which the requirement currently in our code is 30 days prior to a public hearing on a project. The consideration of new entitlements typically requires the installation of story poles for all projects which would be over 25 feet in height.

This project contains several buildings, although not all buildings that are proposed at heights taller than 25 feet. The applicant is requesting the waiver from this requirement for two reasons, mainly as listed in the letter in the packet provided by the applicant. The first is that the proposed project does have limited visibility from the street and I'll just say that basically this lot is considered what we call an interior lot so it's kind of tucked back away from a public street.

And secondly, the proposed height of the buildings that do exceed 25 feet in height are only approximately 7 feet taller at 30 maximum 32 feet maximum height. And just for some context, the industrial zone currently does allow building heights up to 45 feet tall. So the proposed project is currently undergoing environmental review prior to being brought forward to a public hearing.

And at that time, the applicant will be required through our submittal processes to provide 3D renderings of the proposed project in order to depict the size and scale of the proposed project in the context of the surrounding properties. Staff has reviewed the waiver request and finds the waiver request can be justified if the City Council wishes to grant the request.

I do have just a couple of slides to just show the various buildings, kind of go through it. There's four buildings plus a manager's building just to kind of give again some context as well as a vicinity map to show you what I'm talking about in regards to the interior lot so you can flip to the next slide. Okay, so this is the vicinity map. So the property in question here is highlighted in black. You can see Industrial Way there as you know the road Industrial Way leading to the project site and there is a private access road that leads from Industrial Way to this project site and there are buildings basically...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:42:36

Sorry to interrupt. This slide has not moved from the first slide just as an FYI it's still on the title slide not on the map slide for the Zoom presentation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:42:46

Back that up a little bit and try again. Is that better?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:42:51

Still on the title slide, so I don't know if that's also for those who are watching on the live stream but yeah it's not showing

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:43:14

That's what we're just sharing that. We are sharing that. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:43:25

see story poll exemption and now we see the vicinity map. Thank you. Great. Well, we did for a minute. They're there. You're at the vicinity map. You're good.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:43:37

Okay, great. So yeah just to kind of show the fact that this particular property is considered an interior lot with kind of tucked back behind buildings and not adjacent to immediately adjacent to a public street so again just to kind of illustrate The fact that there, you know is likely to be limited. I can't say it's not what you're not going to be able to see the buildings from the street but there will definitely be limited availability or limited visibility of the buildings just given the location and context.

You can switch to the next slide. And I just wanted to show this to kind of show there are again, and if you can just think about industrial way would be at the bottom of the screen here. Um, and they access road kind of leading directly toward the managers building there at the lower right portion of the screen. So what you would be seeing as you're driving in through the private access easement would be mainly the manager's building in a bit of the East side of Building A.

And again, just to show the building elevations and it's really hard to I mean you can't even see it on this screen but buildings A and B those are the two Just so you can just kind of, and then I did want to show the manager's building which again this is kind of the, I guess the east elevation on the right hand side is what you would see coming through that access easement. And then I also showed the north elevation of the managers building because you would also see kind of kind of you would be coming in on that corner. So that building it's approximately 25 maybe a little over 25 feet in height.

Just wanted to show that. Okay, and then again building B is around 32 feet maximum height just wanted to show that. And then C and D those are the shorter buildings and those are tucked even further back and those are anywhere between 18 and 20 feet in height. And that was really it. I just wanted to kind of give some context to show what So this time the recommendation is that the City Council consider waiver of the Story Poll requirement for the 33 Industrial Way project. That does conclude my report and I'm available for questions, and I also note that the applicant is in the audience this evening if there aren't any questions from

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:46:14

him.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:46:15

Is there any public comment on this item?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:46:18

There are no public

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:46:18

comments. Okay great so we'll bring it back for staff

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:46:20

questions from any of the council members. Council Member Sanchez Councilmember Lewis? No questions. Councilmember Horne? I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:46:27

don't have any questions of staff, but I see Mr. St. George in the audience.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:46:32

Mayor Silva do you have any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:46:34

I do not have any questions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:46:35

Okay great so we can bring it back for council discussion. Can I just move to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:46:40

approve?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:46:42

I'm having a hearing issue so it was at

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:46:48

least... Councilmember Sanchez gets the second he beat me

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:46:55

All right. Councilmember Lewis? Aye. Aye.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:47:24

Are we moving to closed session? Not yet. I have a city manager's report. Sorry my bad, I couldn't read it. That's quite all right. I only have one item

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:47:31

on the City Manager's Report this evening and it's a ways off but I do repeatedly want to remind everyone barbecue bonanzas coming up here on July 25th Riverview Park, 11 to 2. Lunch will be served from 12 to 1 and a little later if there's food left but everyone please keep an eye on your mailbox you should receive a postcard here soon if you haven't already that postcard should be brought along with you for as your meal ticket

CommentTeresa RileyProposed · by introduction2:48:03

For identification

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:48:04

purposes. For identification as a Buellton resident. So that's, I'll conclude with that and I believe we can say that there is no

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:48:12

closed session this evening. No updates to share.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:48:15

Okay great and I'm going to adjourn this meeting at 8 44 p.m. Thank you.