City Council — February 9, 2026

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Carpinteria City Council meeting. Hello all. Today is February 9th, 2026 and I'd like to welcome you all to the Carpinteria City Council meeting. We will be officially calling this meeting to order and I'll ask for a roll call please.

Wasting no time. Thank you. Well good evening Mayor Alarcon, council members. Thank you very much for having me here tonight I'm just going to give you a short kind of update presentation telling you folks probably some things you already know but the public may not know much about the Carpinteria Sanitary District often they think we're part of this city Yeah, okay thanks Brian. If you go to the previous slide, Carpinteria Sanitary District was formed in 1928 so two years from now we're going to celebrate our 100th anniversary.

We have a five-member board of directors they're elected. A few years ago we transitioned to division based elections so now they're elected from five different geographic divisions We have 18 people on our staff, so a pretty small team relatively speaking. We have licensed operators, we have professional field staff, we have a laboratory certified environmental laboratory, so we have a lab director, we have finance folks and administrative staff as well.

Our staff ranges from entry-level people to team members who have been there for 30 plus years. So quite a broad spectrum. Our job, and I put it in parentheses now because it is changing and I'll share a little bit about that but our job is to collect treat and discharge wastewater safely 24 hours a day seven days a week 365 days a year. It keeps flowing We serve about 4,500 different customers. 4,500 residential, industrial and commercial customers. 93% of our customers are residential so mostly a residential community from our standpoint.

Our revenue comes from annual sewer service charges that we charge to all of our customers. Residential customers pay about $825 a year for sewer service. Non-residential customers pay based on the volume of water they discharge and the strength of the wastewater they discharge. We have a website, it's there carpsand.com and we have a social media presence so we try to get our message out as best we can Next slide, please.

Just an overview on our facilities. Now we have over 42 linear miles of gravity sewer pipeline. Dates back to the 1930s. Much of the downtown area was sewered in the early part of the 1930's. The bulk of the system kind of got built out as the city developed into the residential suburban areas. Our pipes range in size from 6-inch diameter up to 24-inch diameter. And it's mostly like that 60s and earlier period was all clay pipe, so it's vitrified clay pipe.

We've rehabilitated a lot of that over the years, so it's now lined a fair bit of it. But some of the pipe even from the 30s is still in perfect condition. We have three beach communities that we serve using a low-pressure sewer system. So our service area serves Rincon Point to the south or to east rather all the way out to the very western end of Padera Lane. So all of the city and some areas outside of the city.

We have eight wastewater pump stations. Two of our largest pump stations were built at that same time the downtown sewers were built in the 1930s. At that time, they really just did screening and then discharged from those to the ocean. Our pump station service small little developments of 20 homes all the way up to 70% of our entire flow goes through our largest pump station.

And we have a wastewater treatment facility. The first plant here was built in around 1951, it was upgraded and it's now designed to treat up to two-and-a-half million gallons of wastewater each day. Our flow rate, average flow rate now is about 1.2 so not even quite half of our capacity and the 20 years I've been there we've seen flows drop off really because of conservation So a lot lower than they were even two decades ago. Our treatment process is, it's a pretty standard municipal wastewater treatment process. It's called the secondary treatment process.

We have disinfection and then we discharge via an ocean outfall. Our treatment plan was, basically it's all been rebuilt. We did a big upgrade in the early 90s and then in 2015 we did another upgrade so the entire plant is in really great condition. We have an administrative office and a boardroom down on 6th Street, 5300 6th Street that was rebuilt and completed in 2022.

And we have a board room that we provide as a community space for non-profit and other use as well. I think that's just cycling through, Brian. Sorry. If you go back one, you can see an overview of our wastewater treatment facility. It is right along Carpinteria Creek there to the east and north of the railroad tracks and the state beach. So tucked into the downtown area. That's a picture of our administration building, and you can see the boardroom on the right.

If you got one more, thanks. So this is just to share some little humble brag, but I think the residents should know that we have a really high-performing wastewater utility in Carpinteria. We were twice awarded the very best treatment plant in the state of California by the CWA, California Water Environment Association and twice also the best performing collection system in the state of California.

So that's, we're proud of that. Challenges and opportunities, I call this next page. And this will be familiar to you guys. One of our biggest challenges is cost of living and hiring and retention of staff. A few years ago we had about 50% of our staff living here in Carpinteria and that's now transitioning the other way and people have moved to Ventura County and for us it just means Longer response times, really when we need people here it takes a little longer.

We've also seen a serious shift in upward pressure on salaries and benefits. You know peer agencies are competing for the same small pool of people and that's just the consequence of that. When we need to hire certified higher level staff it really is a challenge. We had a recruitment that took two years for a certified staff member Another challenge is inflation and construction cost escalation.

Kind of after that COVID period, we saw costs for materials and equipment really sharply escalate, and unfortunately they haven't come back down. Tariff impacts now, whether they're real or they're just perceived, we are seeing that hit our bottom line for equipment primarily. Underground construction, and this is just how it's gone. We've seen construction costs for pipelines and so forth really kind of double maybe triple in cost per unit foot.

In general, construction costs really have outpaced inflation for municipal-type projects. It's a story I'm sure you all hear often. Some opportunities are good things. Energy management we've been focusing on at the district. The solar panels on our admin building power all of our functions there on the administrative side. We're about to implement a battery energy storage project that will provide some grid reliability improvements and some cost savings for our operations at the treatment plant. We do use a lot of power there, so anything we can do to save theirs is very helpful.

And we're in the middle of an EV or electric vehicle transition. Some of it's voluntary, some of it's the state pushing us that direction but we do have the first all-electric CCTV or closed circuit TV pipeline inspection vehicle in the state. We had the first one and now we're transitioning you know buying pickups that are all electric And climate change adaptation, this is something we focused on. We have worked with the city in kind of that climate change assessment and planning and I think that's really important for us to work together, collaborate on those kinds of issues for this community.

Next slide, and I know you all heard from Bob McDonald the Water District Manager a couple months ago maybe about the Carpinteria Advanced Purification Project. I just want to share a little bit of our perspective. So it's a partnership project that is with the Sanitary District and the Water District We've been very involved over 10 years planning, developing the project and getting to the design phase with the Water District. The city was originally a participant at kind of the feasibility study stage.

The project has a governance structure where we've entered into a joint exercise of powers agreement with the Water District. We'll be leasing part of our facility site to the Water District And our staff will be operating a new advanced water treatment facility for the CAP project. It is a water supply project primarily, so the Water District is funding the vast majority of the project but we're going to be hosting the site, the facility and we'll be doing contract operation of the new plant.

Advanced Water Purification Facility. This is a big change for us, but it is a proven process that we're implementing. Orange County Sanitation District and Orange County Water District, they collaborate on a project called Groundwater Replenishment System. They make 130 million gallons of purified water every day for groundwater augmentation. And many agencies throughout the state are either implementing similar projects or they're going this direction.

It's a multi-step process. There's an initial filtration step, then there's ultrafiltration. This is a low pressure membrane process that removes all of the solids in the treated water. Reverse osmosis is a high pressure membrane treatment step that removes most all of the soluble dissolves Constituents in the water. And then the last step is ultraviolet light advanced oxidation, and this is a high intensity light with an oxidizing agent added and anything that had potentially got through reverse osmosis step gets destroyed by that process.

And then the water is so pure we actually have to add back alkalinity to the water so it's not corrosive to the formation when we put it into the groundwater basin. Purified water systems are highly regulated in California. We'll have a whole bunch of permits to operate this project and follow the strict standards set up by the state of California. Sophisticated continuous monitoring of all of the treatment processes is a requirement, and we'll have a rigorous sampling program as this thing goes into operation.

And then, where are we at now that advanced water purification construction is upon us. The Water District awarded a $61 million construction contract to a company called Walsh Construction. The construction activities are going to start this spring, and we're projecting about a three-year project duration. And some of that is long lead items that take a long time to get built like electrical switchgear.

And then at the tail end there's a really long startup and commissioning and validation process to make sure that what we've built is really going to work for the long term. Some key components. There's a 250,000 gallon buried concrete equalization tank Our flows that come into the wastewater plant, they cycle during the day. And this treatment process wants to run at a steady state so we're building a tank to equalize the flow.

There's a 12,000 square foot process building that will house all of the equipment and the piping and the control systems. There's a pure water pump station that'll deliver the purified water across town and down into the groundwater basin. And we'll have a new Edison service, and improvements to our entry at the treatment plant itself. So some cool facts I call them. This project is going to purify 100% of our average dry weather flow in Carpinteria.

It will be the first agency in the state to be able to say that. CAP is going to reduce the volume of discharge to the ocean by 85%. What will go out will really be just what the reverse osmosis part of that treatment process rejects or doesn't allow it to pass through. And it'll add high-paying professional jobs to our local economy for a long time, so... Just a couple more quick slides to look at.

Next one Brian, if you remember that overview shot there was a big paved vacant area in the middle of our treatment plant but we're going to fill up most of that with this new advanced water treatment facility and then here's just another quick view the next slide is rendering of the building that will be in the middle of our fully developed site already. And it'll match the architectural elements that are already at the facility, so...

That's what I had to present tonight but I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.

Thank you. Any questions?

Yeah, well first I wanted to thank you for making yourself and the district accessible to us. I was fortunate to get a tour from you last year and I was really impressed by the water purification process that typically happens and then also the CAP process so for people who might have questions about CAP or want to get more information where would you direct them? I'm sure you have things on your website but what types of resources can they find?

Yeah, thank you for the question. There is a website dedicated to the CAP project and that's easiest to get through by going to the Water District's main page. You can get there from our page as well and there's a lot of information there. And the Water District has an outreach team that is ramping up now some...a lot of outreach regarding construction related impacts but also information about the project in the process and a little bit about the rates I think so.

That's really good, because I know it is a complicated concept for people understandably to take on. But just having seen firsthand the kind of filtration you do already and then learning from you in depth what that CAP project is going to look like, it's very exciting to look forward to. So thank you for the presentation.

Craig, a couple of questions for you. First of all, you said some of the water, well 15% of the water that is going to go through the system will be discharged I guess as it's rejected from the reverse osmosis process. Could you give us the quality level of that water that is being discharged back into the ocean?

Yeah, thank you for the question. It's 15% is about of the total flow. Maybe that's what you said but one of the things that's important to realize is that the loading to the receiving water or the ocean, the mass of the discharge is the same as it is now and actually it'll be a little bit lower but we've done a lot of work. We did some pilot testing and we've been meeting a lot with the regulatory agencies to make sure that what does go out is fully compliant with even our existing permit standards. So it'll be a little bit more concentrated, a little less water molecules in there but the net effect should be no change.

Okay so it's basically the same quality or better than it is currently going out?

Yeah. And it's a product of increased dilution and concentration of the other constituents. Understood.

One other question I have then, beginning some questions regarding the, I would say, the filtration of pharmaceuticals. Is that something that we are looking at? Is that going to be included in the reverse osmosis because realize it won't be working in the UV system?

Well, yeah. Thank you for that question as well. Removal of pharmaceuticals through this entire advanced treatment process is 100%, more or less 99.99999%. And a lot of the removal does happen in the reverse osmosis phase of the process. There are some very small chain types of constituents that can pass through reverse osmosis not necessarily pharmaceuticals but I could give you the names like 1,4-Dioxane, NDMA. These are products that that can pass through in small quantities through reverse osmosis. And that next step, the UVAOP really destroys those at the molecular level so yeah it's the process has been very well proven out over the last 30 years.

Sounds good thank you and thanks for the questions most of that was for informational for the public we do these installs around the world also so I just wanted to confirm that so the public is aware.

Any other questions from Council? No. I'd like to just say thank you for doing your presentation, I think you're right when you say that there's many residents who believe or who think that the Sanitation District is a part of the city and in reality it's operated separately and so can you share if the public wants to have more information when those meetings occur? You mentioned you also have a five-member board

Thank you. Our board meets on the first and third Tuesday of every month at 5 30 p.m.. At our facility 5300 6th Street We sometimes have we'll we have committee meetings that are open to the public as well and our doors are open So if anybody has questions about what we do feel free to come and knock on the door and say hello

Excellent, thank you Appreciate it.

Thank you very much. Have a good evening

you too I'd like to go ahead and open up public comment on this presentation. I do not have any speaker slips. Do we have anyone on Zoom?

Mayor, we have no raised hands. OK.

I will go ahead and close public comment. And do we have to take a motion for this?

Yes. I move to receive and file the presentation.

A second. We have a first and a second. All those in favor?

Aye.

Any opposed?

Good question. Craig, real quick and I think this is for the city also. We also have the Utilities Committee that meets with the Water Department City and you. Do you know if there's any... Have you been talking to the city about updating a new meeting for that one or if that's something that's going to be ongoing?

Thank you. I have talked to Mike about that somewhat recently and I think we're going to coordinate with John Lawson and try to get something on the schedule here in the next quarter or so. Sounds good, thank you.

We will now move on to the second item on our agenda which is a temporary adjournment for the purpose of holding the monthly meeting of the Carpinteria Library Board of Trustees

President Alarcon, all board members are present and accounted for and the legal noticing and procedural requirements of the meeting have been met.

Excellent Thank you I'll now open up public comment So this is a time for public comments on matters not otherwise on the agenda But within the subject matter of the Carpinteria Library Board of Trustees We do not have any speaker slips Do we have anyone on zoom?

And president Alarcon, we have no raised hands

I will go ahead and close public comment. We will now

I move to approve the minutes of the regular meeting held January 12, 2026.

Second.

We have a first and a second. All those in favor? Aye. We will now

Mayor, City Council members. It's my pleasure again to present my staff report for the Carpinteria Community Library. So January was a busy and good month regarding programs and collection updates. We have the Carpinteria Head Start Cafecito on January 8th, that thing advisory board couple of times in January 16th and 30th The teen history class on January 21st, the Santa Barbara Early Music Ensemble on January 24th. The Santa Barbara City College bilingual basic computer classes starting on January 26 and while things talk about California condors on January 28 and our monthly movie night on January 30th. But I would like to emphasize or highlight the three events, the Teen Advisory Board. We met a couple of times in January it was wonderful we have seven teenagers two middle school students and five high school students.

It was a surprise to listen all the ideas that they have All the motivation that they would like to put in working with the library. So there are a lot of ideas that they gave us, so we identified three main or they identified three main focus lines of work. One is They would like to develop a team-led library club. In other words, they want to develop their own teenagers' programs in the library.

The second is input on team focused collection development. So what they want is to advise or recommend titles for that team collection in the library. And the third item is a youth-driven library marketing initiative. So what they want in this item is they would like to collaborate with us in making social media posts and stories, things like that. And they are very eager to work with the library and also develop some programs led by themselves.

We are still accepting new members for the Teen Advisory Board. Our next meeting is going to be February 13th, it's gonna be the second Friday of the month at 3.30 in the afternoon. So, we are planning to meet every second Friday and every fourth Friday of the month continuously. The second program that I would like to highlight is the Santa Barbara City College Bilingual Basic Computer Class. It was a complete success. We offered 20 seats through the SBCC registration. We got actually put here 23 but as today we have 25 students And SBCC brought 20 computers for every student, and they are bringing more computers this week. They asked me to close the registration because they continue receiving a registration, but because it's a college class, very formal, they already closed the class.

But that gave us the idea that there is a demand All the students are Spanish speakers, there is a need in the community and the library is also a place that the community feels safe and trusts us. So that was very nice to see. And they are meeting right now in the library. The program that I would like to highlight is the California Condor presentation. We have 56 attendees. It was very nice to see the response of the Carpinteria residents, to know about how the California Condors program is working in the whole state.

Also, I would like to say that we have ongoing library programs. And I would like to take the advantage of this meeting to name some of them. So the library continues to offer a range of recurring programs including English Conversation Group, the Preschool Storytime, the Carpinteria Writers' Group, the Spanish Language Conversation Group, the Songwriters Workshop, Babies Are The Best Program, the Carpinteria Needles Group, the Dementia Caregiver Support Group, The Game Club every Friday, the Carpinteria Bird Watchers group, the D&D or Dungeons & Dragons playtime and Friday farm sessions. For additional information please go to our website you will see what is happening every month there In regards of our library outreach, once again we received two more classrooms from the Carpinteria Middle School.

A complete new two classrooms and we have 50 students visiting the library. Again they got a new library cards and we present all our services on how we organize our collection. And finally, as I mentioned before we were part of the California State Library Every Story Counts Week and we received 68 surveys. Last week on Friday, I received the results. They are super interesting and I would like to present those results in our next staff report so you can see directly from a third-party survey how the community of Carpinteria sees the library and our services and what they need or their aspirations. It's very interesting and that's all from me if you have any questions.

Thank you for your

report. Any questions from council? Yeah, just one question about the teen

advisory board.

It sounds like you're still looking for members is there an application process or how do teens get involved?

There is a registration it could be online there is a link in our website through the event announcement but it could be in person too and also they can just show up on that day in our next meeting

And then what are the expectations for it? Is it that they attend the meetings, do they have to try to attend every meeting or what's the issue with

it? No. So we are having this group as flexible as possible. They can attend once, they can attend a couple of times, or they can continue coming every week, every meeting if they would like to. As of today, they are coming back In our two meetings that we had already, actually we already have three. One in February. The seven teenagers came back so they and we would like to invite more teenagers because I think it's important to include as much as possible teenagers listen to their ideas and aspirations

No, that's great. And I'm sure knowing that it's more of a casual commitment so if they can't commit to going to every meeting that you still want them to be able

to go? Yes. It is super interesting seeing their interactions. I mean, I had the conception at the beginning that they will be quiet and kind of shy but totally is the opposite. They had a lot of questions and they already sent me a letter asking for some material for The Library of Things collection

That's great, that's great. Thank you very

much. They are planning to come to this meeting next month just to see and learn and also probably they are going to make some comments and they say that they are going to pressure the library director through the council members because they want more games. Just

a spoiler. Thank you very much for the update appreciate

it.

Any other questions? Yes.

On the Santa Barbara City College bilingual basic computer class, are the participants 23 for example, are they given the computers or do they have to borrow it and use it only on site or how does that work?

As of today, they are using the computers just inside in on-site. There are plans from the SBCC to offer the computers to every student who finishes their classes So at the end of the whole class, most probably they are going to receive and keep the computer for themselves. But as of today, they are required to use their computers just in the classroom.

And the 23 participants, are they all Carpinteria or is it from City College? All of them are Carpinterians. They are? Yeah. OK. I'd be interested to talk to you about computer process and I believe we would probably help you out some that way when I say we, that would be Rotary because we've done that globally.

Really? Maybe he'll help you out. Excellent. Yeah, we need more computers. Any

questions? Seeing none, I'm looking forward to seeing the teens' social media and what they'll come up with. Yes, it's going to be very

interesting.

Yeah. Great. Thank you for encouraging the teens and creating a space for them to really advocate for themselves.

Sure. Yeah, I know that it was part of the strategic plan and also something that a lot of people and parents were wishing to see in the library. And we are taking this very seriously.

Seeing no other questions I will go ahead and open up public comment. I do not have any speaker slips, do we have anyone on Zoom?

We have no raised hands.

I'll go ahead and close public comment bring it back to the council for any other questions comments or emotion.

I'll move to receive and file the monthly library report. Second.

We have a first and a second all those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Okay thank you Item number six is new business and discussion. Do we have anything from council? Seeing none,

Good

evening mayor, council members, city staff and Carpinteria community members. This month I just kind of threw several different cases out there just to give you a kind of an idea what we're dealing with so in the 5300 block of Carpinteria Avenue we had an indecent exposure deputies responded to a radio call of the subject exposing himself in front of the Carpinteria Middle School And the subject was eventually located approximately 100 feet east of the school with his pants still down.

And he was ultimately arrested for indecent exposure and booked at the county jail. In the 5900 block of Hickory Street, we had a violation of a court order where the suspect was located inside the listed restricted apartment and within 100 yards of the protected party of an active served emergency protective order. He was arrested for the violation and transported to county jail.

At the Amtrak station, we had a reported intoxicated female that was causing a disturbance. What happened was the conductor called she refused to leave the train so they called for our response. They requested a citizen's arrest for trespassing. She was extremely intoxicated, she refused our orders to leave as well but she was escorted off the train by deputies And she continuously resisted deputies in an effort to move her off the train. When we were trying to move her off the train, she grabbed one of our deputies' nightsticks. She refused to be placed in the vehicle. She was ultimately booked into Santa Barbara Jail on multiple charges including trespassing, minor possession of alcohol, drunk in public and assault on a peace officer because she tried to kick one of our deputies.

Actually, she tried to kick me I was working that day so but Unsuccessful, that's why it's a salt and not a battery. And then we had a juvenile on an illegal electric motorcycle on Linden in Sandyland. The juvenile was observed operating an electronic electric motorcycle heading northbound on Linden. He refused to stop at a stop sign, traveling approximately 22 miles an hour.

And deputies followed from a safe distance and observed the juvenile again continue to drive in an unsafe manner. The juvenile turned onto the bike path and nearly hit another bicyclist and got away from our deputy. Who was not in pursuit but just trying to contact him, but he kind of fled through the bike path. And then we ended up locating him later on and recognized what he was wearing and called that deputy over and he made it. So this deputy actually warned him a month ago about that electric scooter which is totally illegal. So he was cited for multiple violations and his motorcycle was towed on a 48 hour hold.

Some community outreach. I want to just let people know, I don't know if they do know this but members of the public at least 18 years of age or 14-17 if you have your parents permission may request to do a ride along with a local deputy here out of the Carpinteria station. Once you submit the application and clearance is granted by the Sheriff's Office, you can spend a shift or a portion of the shift. You don't have to stay a whole shift. Our shifts are 12 hours. That's a little bit of a long time.

And ride in the passenger seat with one of our deputies. And kind of get a feel what's going on. If you are interested in this, I suggest come for the briefing. You'll hear kind of what the deputies talk about dialogue back and forth how they go over tactical scenarios and learn from videos and talking about policy and other things. And then on January 27th, just so you know our Vice Mayor Solorzano participating in a morning briefing and subsequent patrol shift observing a local deputy on patrol. So I think you stayed maybe four or five hours?

Yes

yes I did.

And i'll just say just to add to what you're saying it was a very helpful and useful exercise to take part in I thought it was really informative just to know more about all the training that the deputies do every single day and then just to be able to experience what is being in the car with the deputy as they're going around and seeing what you're looking for, what you're monitoring. I thought it was helpful And the deputy that I was with, I appreciated too that he reiterated something we've heard from you which is that our sheriff representatives are not looking to be immigration enforcement officers in any way. And that was really emphasized and I thought that makes it, I think residents feel safer when we do see your cars driving around so all in all it was a really positive experience and I highly recommend it to anybody in the community to take advantage of that.

Thank you. I'm glad it was a good time for you, and I think he learned a lot so that's good. And then for our Chief's message... So going back to our indecent exposure, I just want to thank whoever the reporting party was on that called regarding this male suspect exposing himself. And I want to remind community members to please remain involved and call in suspicious behavior because Honestly, we've got those calls before and by the time we get there they're gone. So don't wait just if you see something like call it in immediately and that way we could get out there in time and make an arrest.

We talked about drunken public. We have multiple drunken public arrests this month and I just want to remind people or enlighten them that You the public your front yard could be is considered public. So if you're drunk in public now, not that we're going to come grab you out of your front yard if you're having a beer whatnot right but I mean If you're intoxicated to the point where we can't control you and this and that your front yard is a public place so I have seen people arrested out of their front yard because they're a danger to somebody else or themselves and Most times I think the mayor saw recently like if we could get you home right there and somebody could take care of you, that's great. But if you're intoxicated to the point where you're not going to listen and things are just gonna go south and we're gonna end up back here then your front yard is public so just too enlightening there a little bit.

If you're listed on a restraining order, I talked about a restraining order before as a restricted person meaning you're not the protected party. The restricted party will be arrested If they have violated a no contact clause or is it within 100 feet of the clause. So that means if you are the restricted party, you're the person that's not supposed to have contact per the court order and this person is the protected party and the protected party invites the restricted party over or calls what?

The protected party is not gonna go to jail. The restricted party will go to jail, guaranteed. So you can't be, just stay away from that a lot of people I don't think understand that so even if the protected party invites the restricted party over it's still the restricted person is on the court order to not have any contact. So just know that and then there's a math clause.

It's the math clause stands for a lot of times you'll see it Restraining order and it's a no math. It says do not molest annoy threaten or harass So you got basically be good and you can have, you know if contact or whatever But you can't do those types of things and then you have your no-contact clause where it's absolutely No contact or you can't be within a certain amount of feet from this person And that's what I have for you this month and I'm open for any questions

Any questions No questions. Thank you for your report.

You're welcome

I will go ahead and open up public comment, I do not have Is this a speaker slip for this item? Excellent Welcome Mr. Rogelio Delgado.

Thank you Rogelio Delgado Carpinteria resident Question about citizen's arrest. Do you have the evidence before you call the sheriff? Because a couple of people last year told me that they didn't know that they could have made a citizen's arrest. Someone was yelling for a few minutes in the middle of the night to a neighbor and In the morning, she told me that she didn't know what to do.

She didn't think that it was serious enough to call the sheriff and she didn't even know that she's going to make a citizen arrest so that's one question. What about It's a, he says she says issue where you know that it's true but the other person denies that. How does the responding officer reacts to that? Because I know of a case and that's basically the questions that I have Thank you.

Thank you for your comment. Do we have any other public comment speakers in the room? Seeing none, Brian do we have anyone via Zoom?

Mayor we have no raised hands.

I'll go ahead and close public comment, and then I'll just ask the chief if you could just provide an explanation for what a citizen's arrest is.

So a citizen's arrest is when there's like a misdemeanor—I'm not sure, I thought I heard maybe a knife or something like that—but when there's a misdemeanor committed or felony whatnot but I mean we cannot arrest somebody for a misdemeanor not committed in our presence. I mean, we could write a report or whatnot but i mean so if we're called out and something transpired but they want to make a citizen's rest that doesn't mean they actually arrest them although technically you can make a citizen's arrest right? If something happened but i don't suggest that right? That means when we if we take custody of this person for what happened The citizen is the one technically arresting this person. So, the citizen or the community member is going to have to go to court because we'll just simply write what happened and they're gonna have to go to court and they're gonna have to testify on what happened because we were not there to witness it and it was a misdemeanor.

And also if we come I don't know, I didn't understand if the evidence has to happen yet. I think maybe he said maybe somebody's threatening with a knife and then maybe wait for something bad to happen but threatening with a knife is a 417 of the penal code that's a felony if you have a knife in your hand and you're threatening somebody so I wouldn't wait. I would definitely call when we come out so if you ever have any question call us but if we show up and it's a he said she said I mean we have to look at the totality of the circumstances We go through this all the time. A lot of times we get out there and it's not really a crime that transpired, so we have to figure it out or if he says she said...

There's no injury or there's no way to really figure it out. Like, okay this person has an injury here and this person has a swollen knuckle. I mean you can kind of put two and two together but if there's no evidence of any crime or whatnot and people... And then we could write it up and just send it to the DA for filing a complaint with a district attorney. So they're handled in all kinds of different ways. Sometimes people do go to jail on citizen's arrest and sometimes they don't. Sometimes we just send it off so I hope that answered the question.

Yeah, that was helpful and i think it was also helpful for you to say that you wouldn't recommend that someone would go and...

Yeah yeah i don't recommend doing that right so call us and uh and if you ever have any doubt call us that's why we're here right? So if you're if it's pondering back and forth you probably should call.