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Good evening, happy new year. Welcome to the regular meeting of the Guadalupe City Council and special meeting of successor agency, the Guadalupe Redevelopment Agency Board. May we have roll call please?
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Thank you.
The next item is a moment of thanks appreciation and condolences I'll start from the right, Mr.
Yeah, I'd like to give condolences to Georgia Moreno's family. Georgia was a longtime resident here in Guadalupe for about years. She lived a strong life to 98 years old. I saw that today. She passed away January 6th. So yeah.
Okay.
Thank you, Mayor. I want to acknowledge the families who are grieving and the many residents who are carrying fear and uncertainty. My heart is with those that are experiencing losses.
There's also a gentleman, Luis Moreno is a long-time family, large family in Guadalupe. He passed and then Annette Stewart who I don't know if we talked about her last time last year but she was the first principal at Guadalupe McKenzie School and the Stewart family is a large family here in Guadelupe so she passed. And I also want to give condolences of the family children and friends of Renee And Nicole Good who died January 7th, 2026.
Anything else? All right well
the next item is a gender review. At this time the City Council will look at the agenda or staff to see if the order of business presented is okay. Jean you good? Good. Next item I'm moving right along as community participation I have one individual
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that wishes to speak, and anybody that wants to speak that's not on the agenda is more than welcome to come up before us to speak. Mr. John Rohner?
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evening, John.
Good evening everybody so I think I got about 3 minutes. I've got it down to about 1 maybe 1 and a half. Okay. So good evening honorable mayor council members city staff. And all others in attendance my name is John runner and I wanted to introduce myself as the new public affairs manager for SoCal gas. I cover San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara County. I like to say my coverage territory is Hearst Castle to Carpinteria, and it is a beautiful coastline, I tell you. I drive up and down it all the time.
And so I recently took on this role after Tim Mahoney retired earlier this year. He was the public affairs manager for about 27-28 years. So he was sort of an institution and everyone knows him. And so I have some very large shoes to fill. And I just wanted to reiterate that SoCalGas remains committed to supporting local governments and communities to provide safe, reliable and affordable energy delivery today ready for tomorrow.
And please don't hesitate to reach out and i look forward to working together in the future and thank you very much for your time.
Okay thank you and I have John's card we'll give it to David so that if anybody needs to contact Slocal Gas and you they'll have it. Thank you very much for being here Anybody else wish to speak? It's not on the item, it's not an agenda. I don't see any hands, I don't think.
The next item is a ceremonial calendar proclamation human trafficking awareness month and Ms. Hernandez will go ahead and read that.
Thank you Mayor. I also would like to welcome Anne McCarthy and Joyce Howerton. Human Trafficking Awareness Month, where as human trafficking is a form of modern slavery that occurs in every state including California wherein victims are forced to work in various forms of labor exploitation including but not limited to commercial sex acts and other services that are induced through force fraud or cohesion. And whereas areas due to its isolated and discrete nature Many individuals across the globe are unaware that trafficking exists in their communities and where areas it is estimated that more than 28 million people around the world are victims of human trafficking, and where areas human trafficking victims face a cruelty that has no place in a civilized world.
It is a crime that can take many forms and one that tears at our social fabric, debases our community and humanity and violates what we stand for as a country, where areas increased education about how to identify human trafficking along with increased knowledge of in-state resources and services for those affected by criminal exploitation can help decrease the number of future victims. And where areas the Santa Barbara County Human Trafficking Task force is committed to using all applicable laws and resources for investigating human trafficking and prosecuting those engaged in it.
And where areas as a Santa Barbara County Human Trafficking Task Force has worked diligently to bring awareness to the fact that human trafficking occurs closer to the home than one might think, the California ranks number one in the country for reporting human trafficking cases And that Santa Barbara County is home to hundreds of survivors of trafficking and exploitation, and where he has human trafficking awareness month is an opportunity. To recognize a critical role all Santa Barbara County residents play in preventing reporting and adjudicating this heinous crimes now therefore it would be. It be resolved that by the virtue of the authority vested in the mayor and on behalf of the City Council, the city of Guadalupe do hereby recognize January 2026 as Human Trafficking Awareness Month.
Thank you. And thank you for being here. Thank you for receiving this. Can you tell us a little bit about... Do you want to mention... Talk a little bit about what you all do. Yeah,
okay.
Good evening, Mayor Julian and members of the City Council. I am so happy to be here tonight. My name is Anne McCarty and I'm the Executive Director of the North County Rape Crisis and Child Protection Center but tonight I stand before you as part of something larger, as a proud member of the Santa Barbara County Human Trafficking Task Force. Our task force is a united front of professionals who refuse to look away We bring together the District Attorney's Office, every law enforcement agency in this county, Homeland Security and committed community-based organizations all working side by side with one shared purpose.
To stop human trafficking and to hold accountable those who prey on vulnerability for profit. Over the past decade, we have made meaningful progress. But let me be clear, human trafficking is not a distant problem and it's not someone else's issue. It is happening in our county, it's happening in communities like Guadalupe and it thrives in silence. That's why this proclamation matters.
By recognizing January as Human Trafficking Awareness Month, you are doing more than issuing words on a piece of paper. You're shining a light where traffickers depend on the darkness. You're sending a clear message that this city is watching, that the city cares and that there will be no safe haven here for those who exploit and harm others. This proclamation also tells survivors that they are seen, that their suffering matters and that this community stands ready to protect.
To educate and to intervene. It affirms that Guadalupe is committed to being a place of safety, accountability and action. So on behalf of the entire Santa Barbara County Human Trafficking Task Force, we thank you for your leadership, your courage and your commitment to safeguarding the people of this community. Together we will continue this work until exploitation has no place here. Thank you so much.
Thank you. Any questions? On your actual task force, what's the membership like in terms of where they're located?
I think that, that I can comfortably say we have broad representation across the whole county. As I stated every law enforcement agency is invited to the table and even if they don't come to the meetings, they're part of the process they're part of the planning their part of the operations that happen they are you know We're all together in this. And as far as community-based organizations, those are widespread as well. You know it's no secret that resources up here in northern Santa Barbara County are fewer. We have to work sometimes a little bit harder but that's okay we get stuff done and It takes all of us, and it takes the cities as well to stand behind us and stand beside us and walk this walk with us.
Otherwise we wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
What is your counseling network look like in terms of your mental health providers?
That's a great question. So as a community-based organization, we provide counseling services to all survivors. Survivors of sexual assault, child abuse and human trafficking. You know our staff is small there's only nine of us to serve from the Gaviota Tunnel all the way to the Santa Maria River Bridge and all of the eight lying areas in between But we do quite well in their, in our circle.
As far as the county behavioral wellness also takes on some but you know it takes a special kind of And I don't want to take anything away from individuals that work for Be Well, but you have to really be practiced and skilled in working with someone who's been sexually assaulted. It takes some experience and especially someone who's been trafficked. Someone who's been trafficked is the It's not going to trust you right away. And that could often take months before they open up and talk to you about what's, what's happened to them.
So one of the things that's really important is consistency. And I know in my agency, knock on wood, we've got consistent people. We've got people that have been
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there for quite some time and are committed. And I feel confident saying that about Santa Barbara rape crisis as well, actually they're called standing together to end sexual assault now but Santa Barbara rape crisis same thing goes for them they all we all follow the same rule so to speak. So could we use more counselors in our county? Absolutely! But i think we're doing pretty good with what we have.
Do you have a local office here in Santa Maria or where's
Yes sir, we have our main administrative offices in Lompoc. We've been there since 1974 and our satellite office is in Santa Maria and we've been in the Santa Maria area since the early 80s.
Okay all right well thank you for being here and thank you for carrying the banner for the population that's out there and has identified our county as high on the list of trafficking so Thank you for being
here. Our service area is Guadalupe too, so we're here in the schools and if there's anybody in the audience or anybody here who has a business that you would like for us to come and do a presentation whether it be on human trafficking or sexual assault prevention please just give us a holler.
How do they connect with you?
The best thing to do would be to call the Rape Crisis Center either our Lompoc office or Santa Maria office. I see that you still have brochures in the back, I greatly appreciate that and I'm actually gonna leave some other flyers back there that I'm hoping will be put up around the city hall that have to do with human trafficking prevention and if you want more please let me know and I will drive them out here because it's such a beautiful drive and it gets me out of the office so...
Well thank you Ann, thank you for what you all do. Thank you
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much.
Mr. Mayor, could I make a quick announcement or quick plug for my Rotary Club? They are hosting a human trafficking awareness forum called the Human Trafficking on the Central Coast on Thursday January 22nd. I'm going to confirm that date from Yes, Thursday January 22nd from 11am to 3pm at the Santa Maria Country Club. The tickets are $35 and include lunch for anyone that's interested it's I've been to it and I'll be there for that. It's a wonderfully education, it's a wonderful event where you learn quite a bit.
What's the time again?
11am-3pm And I can provide more information if you want to email me and ask me for it. Thank you.
All right, any more questions or comments? Okay we'll go to item seven presentation urban forest management plan administrative draft. Mr. Kevin Callahan, Urban Forest Planner, DUDEC. Okay.
Good evening, Mayor and Council Members. My name is Kevin Cullinan and I'm an Urban Forest Planner for the environmental consulting company Dudek who was hired to create this urban forest management plan which is the first plan of its kind for the city of Guadalupe. And the purpose of this presentation is really to give an introduction and overview to the key findings goals and recommended actions for the draft Guadalupe urban force management plan before it goes out to public comment, which you should very soon.
And we'll make sure that the city council members have that full public draft after this meeting probably in the next week or so. So, just again to review what I'll be going over tonight is you know what in what is an urban forest management plan. What are the key findings from our analysis of the Guadalupe's urban forest? What are the goals that we've come up with for their urban forest and what are the recommended actions as well as next steps? And then we'll have some time for questions at the end.
Next slide. Okay, so what is an urban forest management plan? And you can actually skip to the next slide. So at its core a UFMP or Urban Forest Management Plan is a guiding document that's designed to help the city manage preserve and grow it's tree canopy both on public and private lands. And we think of it as made up For kind of key components, which include you know the people of course the community elected officials staff. And then we have the policy standards and integration like the general plan and other existing standards. We have urban forest resource itself, which includes, of course, the city's trees, and as well as private trees, and then we have that urban force management program. So how would the staff, how the city are managing the trees themselves.
So in terms of how the UFMP is organized, there's three main parts. And so we have the executive summary which is a nice condensed summary of the main UFMP findings and goals. And I think, you know, we just created a handout. I think that will be great to give both the city staff and to the public to really get the essence of what the UFP is, what we've recommended in short and easy-to-read version And then we have the UFMP main document itself, which is that public facing you know graphically designed documents so it's going to have all the introduction the analyses, the vision, the goals that recommended actions and then a monitoring plan.
And then the last part is the UFMP appendices, which includes a number of different resources. The first of which are more in depth technical analyses based on our urban forest analysis and those are really geared towards city staff And then we have a number of other appendices that are both meant for the public and city staff and that includes things like our board cultural BMPs, as well as the recommended tree species list which I understand Bill Scott has already been handing out so that's great to hear. Next slide.
So why does the city need a UF MP. And one of the big reasons is that, you know there's already goals within the general plan that call for things like more equitable access to trees and green spaces. It calls for you know city beautification through landscaping as well as, you know, the maintenance of clean and healthy air for its residents. And so the UFMP provides alignment with those existing goals and policies, as well as identifying potential urban forestry projects that support other citywide goals.
And then of course a UFMP is very useful for understanding the status of the current urban forest. There's a saying out there you know what gets measured gets managed, and we do think that's very true for the urban forests as well. And then it's also going to identify gaps in areas of improvement in the city's current urban forest management program, and of course create measurable goals and strategies for the urban force over the next, it's actually going to be the next 40 years.
Next slide. Perhaps one of the biggest reasons for, you know creating an urban forest management plan though is because of the benefits that trees provide to the community. Right? Trees are such a crucial infrastructure like living infrastructure that provide things like shade cleaner air, you know mental benefits and of course wildlife habitat and things like that. And so having a plan in place really ensures that the city is best able to manage and grow the current urban forest. Next slide.
Okay, so let's jump into the key findings that we found from the urban forest analysis. So the first one is that Guadalupe's Urban Forest Program does suffer from a lack of dedicated urban forest funding staff and because of that program results has led to somewhat of inconsistent care and unpredictable costs for city managed trees. Next slide. So to jump into that a little bit more Covering the budget here. So there again like I said there's currently no dedicated urban forestry budget, and mostly the urban forest related expenses are funded you know on an as needed basis in a somewhat reactive manner from the public works budget. I will say there is a new landscaping tax that sounds like it will be helpful in.
Adding to the urban forest services like tree maintenance, as it covers other landscaping needs for certain neighborhoods so I think that's going to play a big part in the future budget as well. And then again all that kind of leads to uncertainty of annual allocations which hinders proactive management so we'd like to see you know moving forward more proactive management in the future.
And then in terms of the staffing standpoint. Again, there's no dedicated urban forest staff you know the staff at Guadalupe wear many many hats, they have to cover a lot of different competing priorities. And so, you know the urban forest doesn't get quite enough attention because of that. I will say though that the city has already taken steps towards getting some more dedicated and forestry staff so the main staff member I've been working with Dinera Engineering technician just recently got certified as an arborist which I think is a huge, huge point that should be highlighted for the city because this will bring in house expertise and as well standardization. Next slide please.
So speaking of that standardization, like I said the city didn't really previously have any arboricultural standards that they were using. They do sometimes hire you know consulting arborists to work with contractors and things like that but again having that in-house expertise is really important and so we've helped the city to develop a suite of our cultural best management practices which are included as an appendix and those can be distributed to the public as well And then in terms of tree maintenance and sorry tree management and services which include things like tree planting, watering, you know pruning removals.
There's there's really lack of records there. And so again we one of the main actions is going to be to standardize those work records and a big part of this project which I'll talk about a little bit later is that the city conducted a citywide tree inventory of all public All publicly managed trees and so that can be used in the future to help keep better track of work records, and then that in turn will help to, you know, provide more reliable and predictable costs for the city in the future.
So the second key finding is that we found the city does have declining urban canopy cover right now and so just as a reminder, can it be cover you can think of as looking from a bird's eye view down at the city. It's that area of land right that's covered by tree leaves branches stems. So that's what the canopy cover that we're talking about and so between 2018 and 2022 which were the two years that we looked at.
Yeah, approximately 12 acres of canopy was lost and the vast majority that was on private property which points to the fact that they're going to play a big part in you know future urban canopy growth and maintenance. So next slide. So I know those numbers are a little bit harder to read there but essentially what this map and figure are showing is that the biggest losses came in the Goulart a track in the kind of north east portion of the city there. They lost around, I think 12 acres. Sorry not 12 acres 12%, I believe.
neighborhood actually did show growth and I can talk about that a little bit later as well. Next slide. So currently the city wide canopy cover level sits at 4.2%, which is around 31 acres of canopy cover, and the range of canopy in 2022 which is again was the most recent data that we had ranged from 0.2% in the Pasadena neighborhood, so quite low all the way up to 12% in the Goularte tract as well and I will say that you know I think a lot of new trees were planted in the Pasadena neighborhood with those new developments and so it's not quite capturing the latest information. I do think we'll see a lot more growth in the future even with current conditions just because those younger trees are growing and getting bigger.
Next slide. So, I mentioned this before but the city. The engineering technician did conduct a comprehensive citywide inventory for public trees and logged close to 800 tree sites, which includes 730 living trees essentially about five dead trees and 38 vacant sites that are empty right that are ready to be planted. And so that resulted in roughly a 95% stocking rate which is just you know the percentage of available tree sites that can be planted.
Next slide please. So another big part of this UFMP is the analysis of those public trees. And so what we're seeing here are three different, what we call urban forest sustainability indicators. So the first one there is species diversity. So Guadalupe has 74 unique tree species and you can see that there's kind of five or six species there in yellow that are dominating the inventory which include things like Coast Live Oak, Monterey Cypress, African Fern Pine, things like that.
And what we'd like to see is a little bit more diversity so you technically don't want to have one species representing too much of the inventory because if they get hit by a certain disease or pest That can wipe out a significant portion of the inventory. So again, using our recommended tree species list, having the city start to plant species outside of those tree species but still trying to maximize the available planting space.
And then looking at condition, the city trees really are doing pretty well so the majority of trees are either in fair good or excellent condition showing that the city is doing a pretty good job in taking care of the trees that they do have. But then looking at the age diversity there, the blue and green colors are basically showing you that the majority of the trees are either brand new or young juvenile trees.
And so we'd really like to see a little bit more mature and older trees which will provide more canopy as well right? So it's going to be really important for the city to maintain those younger trees again like a lot of those in the Pasadena neighborhood so they can grow into mature trees that provide more canopy and benefits to the community. Next slide. So then our third key finding is about what we heard from the community. And so we conducted a community survey, I heard from about 67 people there. We tabled at the popular Fiestas Patrias event which got it really popular showing we raffled a tree and that was really popular. So it was great to see how many people were excited about winning a free tree. And then we also had, we hosted two virtual focus groups with different stakeholders as well And so what we heard from the community is that you know they're really enthusiastic about urban forestry, you know they'd like to see more street trees in their neighborhoods.
But there's some lack of resources right available to them. And so the city is going to have to work with the private property owners to really provide resources in order to get more trees on private property. Next slide. So, this slide is just kind of summarizing some of the community survey results we had so again 88% are in favor of having street trees. You know 44% want more shade trees in their neighborhoods. Many people were willing to you know participate Volunteer tree planting event or an education event. There was even another resident arborist, which is great who said he'd be willing to help with education and workshops so I thought that was great as well.
So again just going to be really important to be continuing to do outreach and education to the community because they're going to play such a key role in the growth and maintenance of the urban forest. Next slide. So let's jump into urban forestry goals here, you can go to next slide. So we like to start with a vision statement which you can think of essentially as you know what will Guadalupe's urban forest look like in the future once you know these practices these recommendations have been implemented from the Urban Forest Management Plan and so it reads Guadalupe's urban forest is a thriving vital resource, cared for by the city and its community members that provides scenic beauty and clean air and enhances the quality of life for current and future generations.
So we think that really encapsulates what we're trying to accomplish here. Next slide. So then we have four main goals for the urban forests, and so those include implementing consistent urban forestry practices so we mentioned that with the standards, establishing a dedicated urban forestry budget. And you know having administrative support for that urban forest program.
The big one of course is going to be trying to achieve 10% canopy cover on a citywide basis by 2066. So that's in 40 years, and then the last one is to increase tree planting and improve tree care on private property. And so I'll jump into the specifics here of each one. Perfect. Again, for that first one about implementing consistent urban forestry practices. We have that separate appendix that we've developed which includes all those are our cultural best practices as well as you know if the city can focus on enhancing their work records and tracking they have that tree inventory now, which should help with that. And then what we really would recommend for the cities because there's so honestly so few trees right out public trees.
It should be efficient for the city to, you know work with either consulting arborists or, you know, the engineering technician who just became an arborist to really conduct a city wide inventory again to develop an annual work plan I would say maybe on a five year basis right, it can be very specific will give the city prioritize list. To work from so that they can really, you know focus resources where they most need to go. And so I think having that every five years is going to be probably more cost efficient and better than say, you know developing a grid pruning program or you just, you know try to print every tree five to seven years. We think this is going to be a better approach here.
And then for establishing a dedicated budget and support, you know we think again having the treatment Torrey being able to track those work records which should then be able to allow the city to make better cost estimates for knowing what they'll need in the future. You know exploring resources, we have a whole appendix for that we have no grants that the city could pursue obviously you know there's a disadvantaged community here so I think Some avenues there that the city could explore, as well as you know engaging partners. There's a lot of local groups that are definitely I think have similar goals and I think that should be approached we talked about it in the focus groups that we had.
And then again maintaining ISA certified arborist expertise is going to be important as well and trying to dedicate monthly staff time towards UFMP implementation. Next slide. So number three, they're progressing towards the citywide canopy covered of 10%. So let me break this down here so you know roughly there. I think there needs to be around 1300 trees total planted in the next 40 years to achieve that 10% canopy cover goal.
And it was recently changed from perhaps the slides that you got we originally had 8%, and a 30 year timeline but Cal Fire, who is funding this grant wanted to see a little bit longer timeline, a little bit more ambitious goal so we went up to 10% and so for breakdown of that. We said that the city could. Potentially plant up to 400 trees on public land over 40 years. So that includes filling all the current vacant sites, as well as exploring other areas so one of the sites that we looked at potentially was along flower Avenue. I think there's lots of room potentially to plant some new trees along there, as well as you know looking in other parkways and areas in different neighborhoods of the city.
In combination with private planting so the, you know, private property owners would be Taking on the lion's share of that planting but could be assisted with things like free tree giveaways and finding other resources to help them out. Next slide please. And then in terms of enhancing tree planting on canopy cover, like I was talking about you know again we really want the city to foster urban forest advocacy so through outreach and education again partnering with local entities with similar environmental stewardship goals providing Resources where you can in terms of tree planting and care. There needs to be more education on the, the tree ordinance that the city has is that already assigned some maintenance responsibilities to private property owners.
So, that needs to be educated on more. And then like I said, The ultimate goal would be for those private property owners to plant 960 trees on private property after the 40 years. And then this is kind of a last stretch goal but there's a thing called a tree city USA, which is kind of a recognition for cities that are really trying to take good care of their urban forest. So it involves, you know having a tree board of sorts and having a tree ordinance with the which the city already has. And then a few other things I think the next slide covers that yeah so having the ordinance you guys already have in place.
It's your the cities meant to spend around $2 per capita on tree care for the fiscal year, and then having an annual Arbor Day celebration, along with that tree board A stretch goal but could be something you know maybe in the next five to 10 years that the city could work on to really show that, you know, you guys are taking good care of your urban forest.
And then in terms of next steps, you can actually progress to the next slide there so we're about to release the public drafts and so that will be open for I think approximately 30 days. This grant does end at the end of February though so we do need to wrap things up and So we may have to cut that public comment period a little bit shorter, but we'll try to get as much public comment feedback as we can incorporate that into the final UF MP document. And then we'll come back in late February to the city council for adoption.
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When we're talking about planting trees either private or public, is that native trees or does it matter what type of trees?
Yeah so it includes our list which again is included in the appendix. It includes both native trees like oaks again coastal live oaks things like that as well as non-native trees and so something that we really look at for the trees species list Climate adaptation right and so sometimes we have to look to see like what's doing well in hotter cities right now, right? What trees are doing well in hotter cities.
You know if climate does change and you know the city is getting hotter things like that. So we want to make sure you know we have drought tolerant climate adaptable tree species. So that does include both native and non-native tree species.
I have a question for staff. What would this look like enhancing the zone code for tree requirements for development?
You said enhancing the zone code?
Yeah, correct. I think on the presentation is shared that some proactive measures that we can do would be enhancing the zone code for tree requirements.
I didn't speak on that a little bit as well so i think what we were thinking there is, you know sometimes cities already have zoning requirements for tree planting like a certain number of trees per housing development or along the length of roads and streets and things like that Trying to maximize essentially what developers can do to make sure that as many trees are getting planted with new developments as possible.
I think that's kind of what we're thinking there.
One of the things Several years ago, we worked with CAL FIRE in a group. I don't know if you know Ken Knight out of Goleta? His children's trees. He's the tree man from that area and working with the Lions Club, we planted trees on O'Connell Park and also at Tognazzini Park and also at Las Mujeres Park And one of the issues, and I'm glad you bring this up because it's pretty honest in terms of what you found that there's a lack of trees and what had happened after the trees were planted. In fact, Cal Fire actually purchased had money to purchase the trees.
So like on one part of O'Connell Park there was 16 trees planted there. And the issue was, I know that the current public works staff actually took the drip irrigation system out and put some hard piping water in to get that done. The trees are doing better but we lost trees there. And what I'm pointing at is that the city trees in the parks that I know of aren't doing well, the city trees.
And what was happening, and I'm glad the public works to pick that up. They're actually taking care of those trees but some are dead. Yeah. And one of the things when Eddie who is our Parks and Recreation guy when they piped O'Connell Park for hard for the PVC pipe that there was one tree missing and so he didn't have money to plant the other tree. And you look at Central Park, which is Las Mojadas park. Those trees are doing well because they're watered and they're taken care of. And if you don't, if you plant them and don't take care of them it's just not gonna do any good. And I noticed that one of the things you mentioned that there's 540 trees that need to be planted in private property
How did you, how'd it come to that? So yeah and it's even more now with the 10% goal so I think it's more like 900 something trees. Okay um so that was yeah for the 8% goal and so essentially how we calculated that is we take, we factor in existing canopy growth from the city's public trees first so that's you know uh first taken into account which will count towards the overall canopy cover goal And then, yeah it was kind of discussions with city staff to see you know how much they thought they could take on in terms of the current number of vacant sites which there aren't a ton, at least in parks and things like that I think there are quite a bit more vacant sites. In parkways, which again would be private property owner responsibility to maintain even if the city planted them afterwards.
But yeah we would want to encourage really the city being able to provide establishment care right maybe for two to three years for those crucial first years so watering and things like that. But yeah, it was essentially a conversation with city staff to see what they could take on and then inevitably the rest of it needs to happen on private property because that's also where the biggest loss came from.
You know, over 90% of the trees that were lost between 2018 and 2022 were lost from private property.
Then you mentioned Gladi Track area that had trees. I don't recall trees in Gladi Track.
Well, I think it's that kind of wetland complex because there's that big grove of trees there and I think that's accounting for... Willows though. Oh yeah, it's willows but they still if they're over a certain height they get counted as part of the canopy cover because there's pretty tall willows there at least 20 feet
probably so.
Yeah, I would say anything over 15 feet is probably going to get counted towards that.
One of the things, a pet peeve of mine Given the Glendale fire or the fire down there is, the palm trees actually caught on fire and spread, you know, they spread the flames on, you know, the ambers everywhere. And that's what created a lot of the fires. You look at Treasure Park and one of the ways I identified my cousin's house is there was three trees, three palm trees that are probably 100 foot, I don't remember 80 foot. They're tall. But they don't give out oxygen Well, not as much. Yeah, I mean- Not as much. They get very little as opposed to some of the other trees that we've got. Correct. So
yeah. So I actually just wrote an email to Bill about that, about palms because generally we try to stay away from palms for the most part because they're actually not true trees. They're more closely related to grasses and they only provide a fraction of the benefits that trees do.
Right.
And they usually need maintenance like every couple years, you know, trim the fronds and things like that so Yeah and they just don't provide as much shade either as standard trees so we do try to steer people away from that. Now the,
and this is to David into you that you mentioned that our we have an arborist on staff now that how can that stretch over to if a family if a private member of a family didn't know how to take care of a tree or trim it? Now, I'm assuming that the arborist now can actually know how to do that. But where's the link between the private and in the city?
Yeah so i think it's like workshops right community education workshops like learn how to trim a tree properly right or You know, learn how to choose what tree species would be good for your property right things like that. And again yeah there's also a resident you know that I mentioned who is an arborist as well and he was very enthusiastic about helping out with workshops so I think taking advantage of those relationships are going to be super important As well as, you know, if a resident has questions maybe they can just submit that to diner or you know the city and depending on her workload. You don't need to be managed and balanced but the other thing I'll mention is you know this city has somewhat of a relationship with the arborist from Santa Maria, although he may be retiring soon I've heard but your relationships like that can also be taken advantage To get outside support right like I think the city would still like to hire outside consulting arborist for larger projects right more expensive projects.
What I found personally, when we did volunteer planting and actually purchasing is that there's a network of people that really want to do that. When you're planting a tree, Gilbert used to talk about planting a tree. You're not going to sit under the shade. Somebody in the future is going to sit under the shade. You had a shot of Flower Street. On the east side of Flower Street.
Yeah, that's private property I'm assuming.
Well, so I talked with city staff and it sounded like they the city actually does own that East, there's a portion of strip on the east side of the road that the city still owns. And it sounded like maybe they talked with someone that it could also potentially have irrigation set up there so That's why I thought that could be a pretty good future site. If the city can find say grant funding, you know in the future for that
will be nice to have flowers along our trees on
it was also meant to be like a buffer from the agricultural property rights for dust that's kicked up and things like that.
Okay, any other questions. And the draft. You're actually, how do people get a hold of connect when this comes
out? I think we'll post on social media but I think there should be a document that's posted on the city's website that we can have and then we'll also set up an email where people can send in comments and things like that.
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The whole UFMP program is, it's got its own dedicated tab and everything on our website. So a lot of the information there are some of the pamphlet style information that has been provided at things like the parade and whatnot. It's all kind of co-located.
Any questions from the audience? Yes
I would say, in general in California yes Guadalupe. It's hard for me to argue that there's like a high super high fire risk necessarily and Guadalupe I think it has been identified in the general plan is maybe there's some risk from there's a vegetative corridor corridor along like the dunes that potentially or maybe from the river but otherwise say I don't think that's the main reason. I don't think insurance companies are necessarily doing that, but it is something that we've had to address in other street tree ordinances right where there's sometimes you have to have an exception for those insurance requirements and we're really trying to work with like Cal Fire and other local fire departments to try to find a balance right? Like maybe there's other treatments that can be done without having to remove the entire tree things like that but good question.
All right, no further questions. Thank you for a great presentation. Thanks very much for the work. All right
next item on our agenda is present consent calendar and these items are presented to the council without discussion with approval without discussion of single agenda item. Is there a council member that wishes pull an item from this consent calendar? None. Is there a motion to approve the consent calendar?
I'll motion to approve this consent
calendar. I'll second. Is there any discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. All Ayes. Okay item 9 is interim city administrator information only report. Mr. Trujillo
All right, just like last week or last month I'll present the public works and city administrators same time. We'll start with the public works. We've began installing these less aggressive speed bumps in Pasadena. I think we have two down now in front of the junior high And we have a third pulled, still trying to get that one in. And then we will begin working on the other two.
We did put a pedestrian crosswalk on Highway 1 and 166 but I will address that again later. Like Kevin had said, we did get an ET certified arborist So that's going to help a lot. You know, with community outreach and being able to do a lot of stuff ourself in-house versus having to worry about having to contract everything. So that's gonna be very beneficial in the long run just due to overall cost of an arborist and then having to work with like City of Santa Maria's schedule whenever they try to coordinate Um, and then we had several water leaks in City Hall. One in the PD one in the women's restroom that caused a closure for a couple days so we can repair that. Let's see.
There was a lot of storm drain cleaning because we had the couple storms come through. So, a lot of that stuff's been cleared up not any reportable flooding damage or anything like that at least nothing that came to us. With transit, we're still working the caboose removal over at the Amtrak station trying to get that scheduled. That's kind of slowing up progress for the actual construction portion but they're making headway.
They've kind of came to a conclusion now it's just a scheduling issue. Let's see... We are still doing the SCADA repairs at the water plant. Billing for the telephone line that was there. So that got fixed. We have a computer now, tomorrow they're coming out to install the software and they will begin testing so within the next week or so hopefully we'll be fully up and functional with our monitoring software and be just cooking out there now everything will be fixed Um, we had several customer service calls on just typical stuff as normal.
And then the wastewater plant is operating fairly well right now they're still going out and doing all the grease removals from all the lift stations. But that's kind of something that's just gonna continue anyways you know. You can only tell people where to dump degrees so many times. And then we can go on to the admin report. So with the capital campaign, we were hoping to have a brief, the end of this month, but We wanted to be 100% fully accurate, so we don't want to rush it.
So, we're going to push for the 10th which could give us actually a window to give a financial brief at the end of the month. I think Annette's kind of got things kind of situated where she could probably give some kind of an update. Um, so that we can let you guys know how we're sitting there. But yeah, we don't want to rush the capital campaign stuff. So we're gonna push that out until the 10.
So the oversight committee, we'll talk about that later in regular business. So with the crosswalk at 166 and Highway 1, we got our hands slapped. Caltrans came out, state engineer came out so we will be pulling the crosswalk. It has to do with moving standards for vehicle traffic It was going to happen, but we gave it a shot. You know, so we got caught. So
forgiveness?
Yeah. We said sorry. We have to have it removed by tomorrow otherwise maybe things get worse. I don't
know. But
yeah, we're not gonna play that game. So we give it our best shot with the Royal Theater. They're moving there. They've got a large amount of abatement done. They pulled half the seats They're pulling the rest of the seats this week. They're doing what they call It's kind of like selective demolition, so you can only demo so much because you have to keep pace with abatement. So what's been a beta so far is essentially the lobby area and now sometime this week. They should be removing the plastic and all that stuff so that it doesn't look like a crime scene from the street but it's all going to be tore up and everything. And then they're diving deeper foundation issues.
Studs, joists all that kind of stuff that will start to be exposed and then they're going to start working on that. The lean-to building on the back is pretty much demoed right now we have like a back and forth thing going with PG&E about whether or not there's power whether or not there is power can we get temp power it's a whole big issue I guess from the fire that happened several years ago but got redlined or whatever We got the Amtrak again we're waiting on the caboose We have the 303 project starting within this week. They got the notice to proceed yesterday, so that should be kicking off here pretty quick and that's the courtyard right over here.
And then Las Mujeres is going to be... The goal is February 2nd with the contractor to start Work in that one are no folks working the groundbreaking for the end of this month. Again, parks and recs involved and then we'll put out the public notice and make all the notifications for that. And then I just wanted to kind of give a quick little overview of what we've kind of got coming down the pipe as far as like grants. As we know with the city were so supported by grants.
A lot of our projects, you know from the park to the Royal Theater to, you know, everything that we do here is grant oriented. So what we got coming now. A 375,000 dollar recycled rubberized asphalt grant. That we're going to be able to do some street repaving and that's from Cal recycle. We got a 21,000 dollar. 80% funded charger replacement. Uh, that's gonna replace the charger in the.
Veterans Memorial Plaza, so now that will go from free to the public or city paying. To it's going to be a your traditional charge point charger by the kilowatt just like everywhere else. And then we received an earmark for this senior center from Carbohal's office. That's upwards of $230,000. We did a little walkthrough the other day kind of determine what the needs are what the wants are you know how we can spruce it up make it look pretty and get it back to a vibrant part of the community And then we got a little $5,000 cow recycle grant. Also that's coming down and that's essentially to turn the trash cans that are like down Main Street into the ones you're starting to see now that are like a recycle of trash, you know something along those lines, and then it'll throw The water fountain for, like the recycle or the reusable water bottle things right here in city hall essentially replace the 1 that broke.
So but that is the end of my brief any
questions.
With the asbestos abatement for the Royal theater and then you mentioned foundation problems has increased the cost of the project.
Um, so. The asbestos, the lead, the mold all that kind of stuff was kind of assumed to be there. So that was all part of the abatement process. Any additional things that we start to find is going to increase costs so any foundation problems. Probably mostly any kind of foundational issues from the meeting we had today. They haven't opened up enough to get a clear picture of what the issues actually are it's mostly.
What would be the bottom plate of walls where the wall meets the concrete, they're noticing damage. So it could come out to be only wood damage or it could come out to be actual concrete damage we just don't know at this moment.
And what's our plan if there is an increased cost to that?
You know it's gonna have to be absorbed by some other portion of that project.
Got it
thank you You mentioned the charger. Now we talked a little bit about the charger at Senior Center, is that be removed or retained or changed in any way?
So I think the overall goal is not to eliminate charging opportunities within the city but it would be to take the burden of the cost off the city so... The cost for a charger replacement at the Senior Center I would think Our most beneficial aspect, but for now it's the only place we can charge city vehicles as well. At least close to a to City Hall so. Potentially in the future, I could foresee that 1 being removed as well.
And then the 3 or 3 site will have charges and this is all in a line with the 3 model for electrification of government fleets. So eventually, we're going to start incorporating more chargers throughout the city regardless. City Hall's location because more fleet will have to convert regardless based on the governor's 2035 model or what be it so 303 is gonna have a handful of chargers and then the senior center is the next closest location for fleet so
I think what's happening with We were talking about the utility rate, you know that electricity has been going up and what happens sometimes is there's two charging possibilities at each site, seniors and at the plaza. And people just are there continually at no charge and it's all picked up by the city so we need to make sure that we can provide that service to people but not at the city's cost, the owner's cost yeah.
And I mean to put it in perspective, the utility bill for the senior center is just about equal to and sometimes more than City Hall. And you know you're looking at a 1700 square foot building compared to a 30,000 square foot building. So that's, that's the perspective that that's how much energy that charges using and we're footing that bill.
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Will residents be noticed by a notice on the charger for the upcoming changes?
We can give notice. I don't know that changing our charger would require any kind of notice because it's a public access point, it's not a requirement for the city to provide such service but it's no problem at all to throw some stuff on social media and the website that a charger would be being removed.
The thing too is if you have to use your card to fire it up, you're gonna know that there's a change. But it's good to let people know that there is going to be a change.
So we gotta take down the flashing lights at the corner?
Correct.
Okay but isn't there two sets of flashing lights down Highway 1?
So the difference being it is not a stop sign. The stop sign, so it comes down to traffic code right? And then the municipal code right for highways and what it is I'm sure that Chief can tell you he probably just let me stumble on this one all by my lonesome but you can't have a flashing yellow and a stop sign at the same time that's like saying go and stop at the same time Regardless of if there is arrows directing it to be a crosswalk, we can't do it. We tried to do it.
I have a question. You mentioned water leaks in City Hall. Did we previously receive state funding?
Not the same kind of water
leaks.
So the funding we received before was ARPA. I think that might be what you're referring to.
No, it's allocated funds from the State Assembly. But I wasn't sure if it was for public safety, but this would also cover public safety. So just curious where those funds could help.
That was 1.1 million who said?
Oh okay so that's the city hall repair fund. Got it. So that has a portion for public safety emergency services and the rest of City Hall So we could absorb the water leak. So it was a pipe leak, it wasn't a roof leak because of roof leaks everywhere. Yeah so we're kind of waiting for the big fix for the roof stuff and you guys will receive that at the end of the month. Revat's going to be here and give you guys a whole presentation on next steps and their recommendation on what should be repaired first and obviously the roof Just because of if the roof doesn't get fixed, probably within the next 2 years, the risk going to come in. But we need to fix that stuff sooner so. Yeah, that's where we're at with state funding
and then I received an email in regards to signage. Um, I seen a beautiful mural that the center put, I think on. And they shared that they were working with the city on putting signage at the parks. And I was wondering if anybody can possibly share a brief update on that signage?
Signage at the
parks?
Yeah, this is the first time I've heard about signage. I did receive an email that was concerning signage for advertising but I haven't heard anything for park stuff.
I think they mentioned they were working with city staff in regards to putting signage at the parks, in regards to education. So I was just curious if maybe somebody had an update on that.
Yeah, I haven't heard that
one. Okay, thank you.
Good any further questions? Nope. No, we'll go to sure let's
do it. Let's
come on yeah okay well we could leave an open door on that one. Director of Public Safety
chief cash. Thank you, Mr Mayor City Council staff and our community. Let me get through this profile we had cares for pause last month. We had a pretty good turnout right here on Ninth Street. We had a lot of citizens bring their cats and dogs, and they'll be back here again on the 16th from 8 until about 3 o'clock. But they also have surgery available so if you got your animals you can bring them in.
Yes, for fixing your dogs and cats.
Hopefully
just dogs and
cats.
Yes well there's a few people also we're really thankful we use we were able to use our state funding to not touch our City budget, and we were able to turn out all our old vehicles so we'll be having four new patrol vehicles that will be eventually hitting the streets. And all that came through state funding so We weren't able to, we didn't have to go through our budget. It was really good.
Attached to the agenda for public works you see in the traffic incidents for Abyssal and Maine and Guadalupe and Main Street for year 2023, 2024 and 2025. The part that you can really take out of this is in 2023, we had 45 traffic-related incidents At both those intersections, and then 2024 went up to 59 and in 2025 we were not able to do the last 2 months but we were at 82.
But then too you gotta look at that is we did increase our traffic citations. Especially as far as with the kids going to school. So we think that we really kind of turn a corner with some of the adult drivers, as far as behaviors but as far as coming out of the Pasadena development, that location still needs to be fixed just it's really bad but you could see where They seem to be digging a trail over by the flower Avenue. And so we're hoping somewhere down the line that we can get an opening on the flower side street, to help alleviate some of that traffic people coming in and out. So, had that.
We just received emails from FEMA. We're on the last leg of trying to close out, I know it's been a long time, the 2023 flooding cost factors so hopefully with David and I for his signatures on certain items we'll be able to kind of close that out. FEMA still will be working with us. We want to thank First of all, our community was outstanding. And our park and rec Santa down at the end here and Dave when we did the fire Christmas candy giveaway.
I think, I think Dave must have walked at least a couple miles. But we were so glad that we did not break tradition. We saw that that was more important to people than anything else, it's something they wanted to share with their kids that they had done as children. And as usual, we did run out of candy. We're still trying to get that one right but we did hit every street and it was very well received. We had to kind of wait for that break in the rain but we were able to make that happen.
Working with Santa Barbara Police Department. They have a police athletic league, I'm talking with the chief down there we're trying to see how they started theirs and see if that's something that we can be able hopefully to kind of bring here i think that's something that the mayor had an idea about And so we're talking and seeing what are those possibilities for us to be able to form some type of a police athletic league, to kind of house a lot of our sporting activities and have that partnership They can maybe have access to certain grants using the partnership between Police Department, City and some of our sporting events. And also we want to look at that is maybe in the grant aspect of some of our facilities especially like with the field and everything if we can use that kind of leverage as a partnership to look for those kinds of grants.
Last but not least, I think everyone saw at least this morning with a lot of the vandalism that we had around town. And I appreciate David's team's quick response. So we're documenting that and we're looking at some of our cameras to see if we can pinpoint who the suspect is. But I think we've not correct. I'll check with David. I think we pretty much took care of where all that vandalism Was
yeah, I think everywhere except for the. The wall at is it the house or yes, 10th and all of our everywhere except for right there.
Okay? And so with that, that's my report. This is any questions.
I just noticing on your traffic incidents reckless driving not located reckless driving now located drunk driver not located. Drunk driver not located that was in January. of 2024. And I know that you can't catch everybody this breakfast, and then there was an accident wasn't last night or Monday night?
There was an accident last night at Nelson and Main Street
Yeah, that's okay. That's right after the market though. Yes. Was anybody hurt? Is that a hit and run or was
it... That was hit and run. I was there and I'm the one who did the report so we don't know. You know, I mean, I got the evidence of what we think the possible vehicle was but it was a vehicle that was parked so there was no one in the cars at least that were parked but it was a car came around the curb from Main Street onto Nelson and hit the vehicle and then sped off So there's no injuries. And just a side note on that, I do appreciate no one's bothering me as far as council calling me and like letting me know of those different issues or if they have concerns it does help us to keep that communication together and get the information out to our community that are calling you or asking you so that is not a bother and it helps me because I did not know about the accident until I got the phone call from one of our council persons.
And because the officers were working a criminal assault on the other part of town, they had no service so I was able to go there and take care of that and so that we were able to cover the city. So I do appreciate the phone calls.
All right. Thank you, Chief. Any questions, Chief?
I do have a few questions. First, I want to say thank you to the volunteers. I remember Christmas Day was raining. I drove around with my kids and I seen so many children outside with their parents in the rain celebrating and just waiting for that. So that was really appreciating and it was just great to see community together. My first question would be, how would Caltrans be notified of the issues like on Main Street and Guadalupe? I know that their reporting is a little different than ours.
Um, as far as the only notifications if they asked us or we communicated to them. There's no automatic I don't know where they got their numbers but a lot of our stuff that they didn't have was like you see here like like reckless driving and traffic stops and or a lot of those are. Citizen generated calls, so they'll you know the call come in and by the time that we kind of get to that area. That person is gone so you'll see like That's their reporting of a reckless driving. And we're just kind of responding to that area, whether that really occurred or not. That's what the radio call was. So now the accidents those are listed and we've taken reports.
And so CHP has theirs but whatever is occurring in our city, we pretty much have all those reports. Caltrans never contacted us For those numbers that they have, so
I think thankfully Caltrans will be here. I believe the 21st to have a workshop and so happy to ask some further questions of them. Yeah
we kept all our data so.
Second question, is there one day that you can possibly brief council on how we could possibly modernize our systems for a database to get clearer informations other than staff doing their diligent on hours and hours of work? Does it not have to be today but I would love to hear further on what that can look like for us because I think that's a real investment that we need to make as a city.
I definitely appreciate, because we had that discussion. This was all hand generated and four months of my career putting this together but it's one of those things too is we'll have to talk as a staff. As David stated two years you're looking at the roof falling so I don't know if we get the roof first or the data to make it work but that would be a good discussion
My last question would be, I know that we got new police vehicles. I know there's so much fear with our community and ICE. I just want to make sure that these vehicles will not be unmarked and will have identification on them?
Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Yes. No, no. That's always going to be the case. That all our patrol vehicles will always be marked. OK,
thank you. Okay, thank you Chief. Now
the next item is Item 11. Public hearing to consider Appeal 2825-048 AP of Planning Director's decision to deny zoning clearance. Bill? Thank you all for waiting. It's been a long night so far.
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Yes, good evening. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council. Good evening staff and members of the public. Yes, the project before you is an appeal of the Planning Department's decision to deny a couple of zoning clearance applications. Next slide please. Ms. Maria Quintanilla owner of the property at 239 Campo Donaco Avenue has filed appeal to the city council for appeal is requesting that the City Council overturned the planning department's decision to deny at least one of her two, two zoning clearance applications so there was two files. And she'd like at least one of them overturned that were denied. Next slide please.
The first application zoning clearance was May 16 2025 that zoning clearance requested a minor addition, and then conversion of a detached garage to a junior accessory dwelling unit, Junior ADU. That zoning clearance was denied by planning primarily because a junior ADU cannot be created from a detached garage. There were some other underlying reasons but that was the main reason.
June 11th, 25, a second zoning clearance had proposed an addition Small addition and conversion of the detached garage into a workshop. That request was denied by planning primarily because of open potential zoning setback violation. Next slide please. The municipal code says that appeals are open to all persons. Anybody can file an appeal if they disagree with the planning department's decision, specifically any person may appeal to the city council any order requirement or determination by the planning director or designee. In this case I'm the designee and I made the determination that we couldn't approve the two projects. Next slide please.
Briefly, just a little background. The home at 239 Campo Donaco Avenue is in the R01 single family zoning district A detached ADU was approved in 2021 and is already existing on the property. A detached garage is on the south side of the property, the detached garage was constructed at 2.5-2 1⁄2 feet from the side yard property line. The house and the detached garage we estimate were built in the 50's and that was common at that time Detached garages were constructed close to the property line. Current zoning requires a five-foot setback, we'll talk about that a little bit more in a minute here. Next slide please.
Existing aerial photo just existing conditions house at the front obviously on Campo Donico you can see the detached garage pretty close to the property line. The ADU already existing that was approved in 2021 little shed in the back next slide please And that's kind of just a rough sketch to kind of show what we just saw in the aerial house, the position of the detached garage, the existing and previously approved ADU.
We showed the dash five foot side yard setback line and how the detached garage was close to the property line which is perfectly fine except when it's what we call legal nonconformant built prior to current zoning then it gets a little complicated when you want to modify it. Next slide please. That's just the existing garage, as you can see. Kind of typical for the area. Next slide please.
And that was the proposal. The first proposal junior accessory dwelling unit junior ADU. You can see the square is the garage with that would be converted to floor area living area but there was an addition and that addition provided the bathroom and part of the bedroom, and just living area. So the garage itself was about 360 square feet, and the proposed addition about 175 square feet. Next slide please.
And now a little bit of background before we get back to the appeal. There's a difference between an ADU and a junior ADU, junior ADU versus ADU. Junior ADUs are limited in size and location. A junior ADU is no more than 500 square feet by code allowed only within the home or attached garage. Not the detached garage. A junior ADU must have a kitchen, they call it like an efficiency kitchen or minimal kitchen area. However no bathroom is required for a junior ADU. Obviously if you have a junior ADU with no bathroom then you have to have a doorway that leads to a bathroom in the home. Next slide please.
ADUs provide a whole lot more flexibility. ADUs can be up to 1,200 square feet or even larger. You can convert a barn, a big barn into an ADU. An ADU can be attached, it can be detached, it can be within the home, or converted from a necessary structure. The typical ADU setback is four feet from the property line by code. A reduced setback or even no setback at all for an ADU may be allowed under certain circumstances.
ADUs is a full independent dwelling unit, it must have a kitchen and a bathroom unlike a JADU. It has to be an independent living facility. Next slide please. How many are allowed? Up to two ADUs and one junior ADU is permitted on a residential home property. The municipal code specifies, one detached ADU, one attached ADU and one junior ADU may be allowed on a single family home lot. Next slide please.
And that's just an example of what's possible again so the cross hatch. You see the typical junior ADU is somewhere within the home, typically it's a bedroom conversion or something like that little tiny thing maybe shared bathroom within An attached ADU would be like an addition, and then the detached ADU as we talked about just a freestanding building. And then note that the attached ADU there's a little bit of a difference. You can do an attached ADU It's regulated under a separate code, the ADU code which is our 1823 municipal code. I'm sorry 1853 my apologies and that's where ADUs are regulated and again four foot setbacks allowed and the distinction is you could also do an addition in the same place. An addition not an ADU Um, would be like a typical bedroom addition that requires five foot side yard setback because that's like a conventional edition.
So in addition, five foot setback ADU four foot setback makes a little bit of difference. Next slide please. So back in terms of the appeal and the junior ADU, we emphatically could not approve a junior ADU. State government code says junior ADUs are not allowed in accessory structures that kind of tied our hands right there. The city regulations say junior ADUS must be fully contained within single family homes. So based on the above, we had to deny the request for the junior ADU. Next slide please.
Second request was for a shop additions, and I do get the logic. But with the shop addition, we had to set back problem. And as you can see that particular floor plan it says main hobby shop in then we still have generally the same floor plan with the bathroom. A lot of storage area. And again, that proposal was for a shop. But as we discussed with the shop. That's in addition to the house and an addition to the house you need a five foot side yard set back. We have two and a half feet so that was our problem there.
Next slide please. And again, we just reiterated what we just said home additions are regulated separately and differently from a D use for home additions the minutes municipal code requires a five foot side yard. We only had a two, two and a half foot setback. And additionally, the garage is legal nonconforming as we discussed its grandfather because it doesn't have the normal five foot setback which adds makes it more complex.
Therefore planning department had to deny that zoning clearance request as well for a workshop. Next slide please. Based on those two denials, on November 18 2025 Miss Quintanilla filed an appeal requesting that the city council overturned the planning department's denial and allow the two and a half foot side yard setback portion of the statement. The problem was the setback right now the setback for the garage is two and a half feet. I also feel that it is cost prohibitive to tear down and start from scratch to comply with this standard, I could see that as being a valid request our hands are tied but You got the existing detached garage, you want to convert it and demolish it and rebuild at five feet?
I understand that. Not a lot planning can do. Next slide please. So the application one was for a junior ADU, one was for a workshop We kind of planning, we looked at an ADU as we talked about there's more flexibility for an ADU. Actually as proposed in the ADU did not work either but however unlike a junior ADU, ADUs may prefer be permitted in detached garages.
However any second ADU must be attached to the house as we discussed because you can have an attached and a detached ADU and you already have a detached ADU so the next one would have to be attached Another part problem is that the code says no floor area expansion, so you can have a reduced setback. You could convert the garage with the two and a half foot setback but as proposed there was an expansion almost doubling the size that was to accommodate the bathroom in part of the bedroom. So based on that design or we couldn't do an ADU either.
Next slide please. And again, that just shows again depicts the presentation we evaluated an ADU. But again, that addition 175 square feet. The code says you could have the two and a half foot setback, but you can't expand it make it any bigger so that proposal didn't work for that reason. And again, it's a little challenging because there are so many intricacies to the ADU code but that's the way the state structured it. Our code is pretty clear and readable but the state structured it that way and we adhere to it pretty literally. Next slide please.
So the applicant is requesting that the City Council consider a plan as an ADU Allow the 175 square foot addition, including the bathroom and bedroom and approve the two and a half foot side yard setback instead of the four foot setback required for this type of attached to you. She is advocating that the only difference between the four foot requirement in the two and 1⁄2 feet that's available as a foot and a half. So it's like She's asking council, give me the foot and a half. Sounds as logical to me but again I can't do it and we'll talk about a couple of reasons why next slide please or I could do it but who would know? I'd know and the city wouldn't know that's another example right there same street you can't see it but back there similar circumstance when we start the floodgates where do we stop same requests next slide please Another example, so whatever we do kind of sets precedent.
We analyze each project on an individual case-by-case basis but again when you have similar people point and say how did they get that one? So we got to be cautious. Next slide please Several circumstances or several occasions where they're similar. So again, whatever precedent we set that's the precedent we set so we need to hold the lines as a matter of fact right now we have two inquiries to convert the same type of detached garage into ADUs and we're just walking cautiously. We're looking at each one again case by case. We've also looked at the new code But again, whatever we do that's the precedent. So that's the reason staff held firm with the, we couldn't give the two and a half foot setback with the addition as proposed. Next slide please.
We did look at another alternative. Again I want to emphasize this just a little bit, we try hard Technically, well not even technically realistically the designers supposed to come up with a scenario. So when the designers return retained, they're supposed to come up with these ideas but we did look at the possibility of a smaller ADU so to speak The government code does specify a detached garage conversion, maybe have the reduced setback where we need the two and a half feet if the addition is no more than 150 square feet and is limited only to providing ingress and egress. Why the state wants it that way instead of the bigger addition? I don't know but that's what they say. That's literally what the state code says. 150 feet with no floor area, no bathroom, none of that just in access Then it could be approved.
The challenge is that an ADU has to be an independent living unit, you need the kitchen and the bathroom and everything so if the design here does the applicants designers clever enough next slide please to fit all of that in the square Eliminate the orange addition and fit a bathroom, a kitchen full living unit within just the square. No expansion except to attach it to the house and provide ingress and egress that could be something we'd approve but I think the applicant right now is advocating for them kind of the whole thing in the foot and a half difference in the setback. Next slide please.
So to kinda summarize A junior ADU is expressly not permitted by law, a workshop in addition would violate the setback standard and the non-conforming zoning standard. The addition and conversion to an ADU instead of a JADU requires a four foot setback, and only two and a half feet is provided. A one and a half foot deficiency. The homeowner I think is requesting that the City Council waive the slight difference between four feet in the required two and Planning staff, as we indicated seeks to be consistent in applying the intricacies of the state government code as implemented by our city ADU code. And that's why we had to hold a line. I mean, if the council can make their own decision will defer to whatever the council thinks but we can't do it next slide please.
The appeal procedure. Again, any person may appeal to the city council any decision made by the planning director or designee of the City Council shall consider all the facts that I think we've just presented at a public hearing and at the close of the public hearing the city council may affirm deny or modify the Planning Department's decision If the City Council does not take any action on the appeal within 60 days after filing, the Planning Department's decision shall be affirmed.
Next slide please. With that we recommend that the City Council adopt Resolution 2026-02 and uphold the Planning Department's decision Tonight, zoning clearance applications 2025-22 ZC for the 8th Junior ADU and 2025-26 ZC for the workshop edition. That concludes our presentation we're available for questions and Ms. Quintanilla is here to kind of present her position as well.
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Thank you. Any questions of Bill before we open up the public?
I guess if approving this, would this expose the city to any legal challenges since we are going against state?
We're not going against state. We're going pretty much against City Council. I don't think there's any legal problem technically. I think it's a safety issue. There's the zoning setback and we just don't want to maintain a standard because again It's more of a precedent issue. From a legal standpoint, you need a building permit and we talked to our building review staff and the building official says he could make it legal with certain types of fire code construction so it can be legalized. It could happen and I don't think there'd be any liability but that's the precedent that would probably be set. So we're just standing firm on the zoning setback.
Thank you. Any further questions before we open it? Good. Okay, so at 736, open up the public hearing. So will Ms. Quintanilla or whoever else wants to address us please do so.
Hello, dear members of the City Council. Thank you for the opportunity to speak before you. My name is Maria Quintanilla and I've gone through this and it is for me when I filed I remember the architect put in ADU, and then I was asked a question. And so I changed it to Junior ADU. My knowledge about this is not very good. So I'm going through a lot of confusion and that's probably how my speech is gonna sound right now.
So I'm here respectfully to request that you waive the setback requirement of four feet related to the construction of an accessory dwelling unit or ADU on my property on 239 Campo Donico Avenue. The proposed ADU is planned in the location of an existing garage The only issue preventing approval is a minor setback discrepancy of approximately one and a half feet.
This is a very small deviation from the code requirement. The structure has existed in this location for many years without creating any negative impacts on neighborhood properties. Requiring the garage to be demolished and rebuilt only to correct this one-and-a-half foot difference would impose a substantial and unnecessary hardship. The cost of the demolition and full reconstruction would be extremely high, and would make the ADU project financially impossible for me.
The current structure has already proven to function safely and compatibly within the neighborhood. Granting this variance would allow a modest ADU to be created while preserving the existing structure. The request does not change the building's location or relationship to neighboring properties, it simply allows the continued use of a long-established structure.
This request is consistent with the City's goals of encouraging housing production A one and a half foot setback variance in this case would provide meaningful housing benefits while causing no harm to the public or nearby residents. Thank you for your time and consideration, I appreciate the opportunity and look forward to a positive response from all of you.
Thank you. Is there anyone else that wishes to speak on this item? Is that 738? Close the public hearing. And then we'll bring it back to the council. Let's say the Council members.
He's got something to say, um. You showed Billy you showed lots of pictures Other detached garages. Do many of them have 80 use in their backyard? Because I mean, that's kind of the problem too is that there's already 1 detached 80 youth and they want to turn this into an attached day to use that correct? And so the precedent is that we want to keep it at the 4 feet but.
We will be running into this with other people is what you're saying essentially. So I just want to make, I mean how often does something like this come up?
We have two in the hopper right now, two inquiries right now. Two other ones and again in one respect each one is unique there might be different nuances in the property but when people see them they point and say how Alice hates this in our office because she gets the questions you know but people we're working from a code and people are working from what they see or thinks what somebody else got So, it's an excellent question.
If there's a, I don't, I'm not aware of existing you know each property if there's an existing detached. So again, our point is just we should hold the line at this point. And another part of the scenario is The state changes the code so often, and it loosens it up so I'm not even sure these these might be allowed soon. That's part of the debate right now we're analyzing an request where somebody is advocating that they ought to be able to convert a garage to an ADU Right now I'm analyzing the code. I'm not seeing it yet, but this thing could change soon. We refer to the state last year I referred to the state HCD housing and community development for their interpretation three or four times and we continue to work with them so it's kind of a wild wild west our point is just hold the line.
And I'm sorry, again, I might add we could do the ADU with no expansion. Just within that it'd be a smaller ADU but that's a possibility. It's an alternative. Thank you.
Mr. Mayor, I discussed this with Bill. I wanted to say that if you did there would be another step. If you were to approve the non-conforming structure with the setback... I mean if the expansion as requested by the applicant which involves the expansion of 177 square feet or something That's considered a non-conforming structure. And I know normally that's allowed in an ADU, but that's in a detached structure for an ADU, but not in this case for the reasons that Mr. Scott explained. So it would be considered a non conforming building and it can't be expanded without a conditional use permit. So there would be another step required you couldn't just approve it tonight I want Bill to confirm that that's correct.
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I'm not clear. Okay, it is a little confusing. The codes are that difficult to unravel and again because the ADU code is over here so that's something maybe we need to kick around. I don't disagree by any means.
Yeah, I just happened to look at it while the appeal was going forward. Yeah, if you make that decision there would likely be a... I don't want the applicant to walk away thinking they got a green light. There would be another step or at least staff would have to consider requiring a conditional use permit.
You know personally, you know, I had a home on Campanileco Street and I've routinely walked the area and things are tight like as mentioned these units were built years ago And now there's new applications in terms of setbacks and things like that. But I personally don't feel that we need to go outside of that because if you say one, they're gonna say what about this person? What about this person? What about this person? It sets a precedence if it... If we go ahead and approve or deny your resolution so I would stand on the recommendation that's made that we have before us That's me.
I agree, I think that we've stood the line on a lot of these things that have come to us for appeal and we set the codes and we hired folks to uphold them so I agree with the mayor.
Thank you Mr. Mayor, council members I just wanted to thank Bill for his presentation and and I hope you can see that he went beyond What you normally would do trying to find a solution to this, but. My recommendation as the planning director and as a former planning director in another agency. These are the things that get you in trouble it seems like a very simple thing to say please disregard the ordinance and just give me my 1 and a half feet but.
When I have made decisions, interpretations of ordinances and things like that. I always think at the back my mind what's this going to do to the next project because from that point forward I really should make that my Thank you.
I motion to approve Resolution 2026-02 upholding the Planning Department's decision to deny the application.
Do you want to read that whole thing?
The resolution of the City Council. I motion to adopt resolution 2026-02 to uphold the planning department's decision to deny zoning clearance applications 2025-022-ZC and 2025-026-VC. Is there a second? I'll second. Any discussion? We will have roll call please.
Roll-call vote Passed 3–0 motion to adopt resolution 2026-02 to uphold the planning department's decision to deny zoning clearance applications 2025-022-ZC and 2025-0 · 1 under review
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The resolution passes so thank you all for your time and I know that Bill it's hard to sleep when you're trying to work things out for communities And then people that are looking for housing. So it's, but if I think if we don't hold the line and it's just going to blow out where you're gonna have illegal stuff going on. So not to say that this isn't, but it's not conforming. Thank you all for your time.
We'll go to Item 12, regular business. Review of re-application 2025-49-PA to consider request to establish workshop outdoor storage facility and horse stable on portion of 9.4 acre. Bill again.
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Thank you again mayor and council. This is a pre-application. And my apology. Let's see. Yeah, okay we got it right pre application for a workshop and small storage area of next slide please. Brief project description, it's a pre-app application by Mr. Juan De La Torre for a workshop and outdoor storage area and potentially horse stables on a portion of the 9.4 acre property. The property is located on the east side of Peralta Street 500 feet north of 12th street.
This property is currently undeveloped in his zoned OS open space. Next slide please Zoning map, the little green, the boot. It's been called the Guadalupe Italy boot there at the green area zoned OS open space and next slide please. To date, there's been no detailed project description. So we're kind of working with what we have here with our understanding which is a general understanding. Mr. De La Torre has stated that the shop would be limited to private use only for maintenance and repair of his farm equipment in what entail a small area in the westernmost portion of his property The horse stable would be used for family and recreational purposes only. So he's advocating that it's just a small private shop, nothing commercial. Next slide please.
Ariel sitemap again, kind of hard to see but it's undeveloped mostly non native grasslands according to the general plan. As you can see extending from Peralta street. General and the general vicinity agriculture next slide please we have a. Anyway, it's surrounded by agriculture in the county on the north and south and industrial uses are to the west in the city.
That's a view of the site looking easterly mostly grasslands. It looks like the remnants of a horse stable is there. Kind of a low lying area. Sometimes when you have a low lying area, you know depression. That's the kind of a flag that there could be potential habitat. Next slide please. We did show the surrounding zoning. So again, all the green area is unincorporated county so the site sticks out surrounded by unincorporated county generally zoned for agricultural use. The north side though does have a mixture of industrial uses as well.
Next slide please. So again, Municipal Code conformance. The proposed workshop in outdoor storage, what does the OS Open Space Zone say? The open space zoning district says the purpose of the open space zone is to preserve the open space status of the land so designated in the open space element of the general plan. So generally the open space zone is to preserve open space From that regard, a workshop and storage use are typically directed to the MC industrial, MC commercial industrial or GI general industrial zones. So generally when we talk workshop, we talk industrial zoning districts.
In this case again it's not a commercial workshop so we gave it consideration up to the council next slide please. However, the Municipal Code does say conditional uses in the OS open space zone grading filling excavation paving drainage farming and other alternate alterations may be allowed with a conditional use permit. So again Mr de la Torre is advocating that his use is farming related private workshop To repair farming equipment with the conditional use permit that may be a possibility. Next slide please.
General plan, what does the general plan say? You can see there's two green areas if you can see them there. The one is obviously the what we call the nice street willows which is a habitat area and based on the general plan this is also a habitat area it's called the riparian wetland on figure 2 of the general plan so whenever when the general plan calls out a riparian The general plan has a policy that says before you do anything on the designated riparian wetland, an assessment of potential biological impacts or biological resources shall be conducted by a qualified biologist.
Impacts to special status species shall be avoided or minimized to the extent possible. So based on that, before anything could happen, before a shop could be constructed, before any grading or anything could happen A biological assessment would have to be done prepared by a professional biologist, I'm sorry. So if Mr. De La Torre is interested in the property before the city could take any action we'd need a biologist report that says it's okay to proceed. Next slide please.
On the horse stables part of his request was for horse stables and Title six of the municipal code says animals aren't allowed in the city. So there's a challenge their section 604 to 10 of the municipal codes is no person shall keep Arbor maintained within his or her premises in the city any fowl or livestock. So, in order to allow horses as requested, the City Council would need to make certain findings that a horse stable could be consistent with the intent and purpose of that prohibition in Title VI.
And such horse keeping would be compatible with the neighboring properties. So in order to have his horse stables, there'd have to be some special findings made. Could those findings be made given the location? I don't know it's a possibility as we saw that particular property is surrounded by agricultural uses. Would there be any harm in horses? We may be able to make the finding. We make an assumption that there's never another Pasadena, we establish a horse stable there and then if there's development surrounds in 20 years could be a problem but under its present condition I don't know.
Next slide please. So in summary A private shop may possibly be found to be permissible in the EOS open space zone. The conditional use permit would be required as a first step, the applicant would need to retain a qualified biologist to perform a biological survey and the city council would have to make separate findings to permit keeping the horses on the property. Next slide please.
The City Council may endorse or oppose the proposal as a whole or any part of the proposal going forward with the processing of a conditional use permit does not compel the council to ultimately support the project. So even if the council endorses, uh, the applicant to move ahead, the conditional use permit would still be discretionary. Um, any future approval would require the use of findings and conditions of approval And again, endorsement would just indicate no immediate opposition.
Next slide please. I think that concludes. Any questions? Hope we were clear with that but we're available for questions.
Any questions of Bill at this point?
And of course Mr. De La Torre is here
to
explain.
We'll open it up to... We'll open it public here to 856, 757. Okay. Okay, thank you. Okay 757. All right. 758. Okay. Thank you. It's open to public care.
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Good evening. We're here to, my uncle's a farm and labor contractor out here in the fields in Guadalupe and he just wants to build a shop for his equipment when something breaks down and you know what I mean? Just have something simple and small, you know what I mean? Nothing major. No electricity, no nothing. If it's possible for him to do. He wants to purchase the property, but at first he wants to see if he can do something because he purchased a lot of stuff here in Guadalupe hardware, purchased gas tires everything here in Guadalupe. So if he moves to Santa Maria, he's not gonna come all the way from Santa Maria to purchase stuff you know?
Excuse me, good night everybody. I just did a hard receipt for the growers over here.
Can you talk into the speaker there sirs? Thank you.
Good night, everybody.
Good evening, sir.
I just do the harvesting for 24 years over here in Bali. I live over here in 44th Street. That's my son living right now with it too but I just work for this area only for freighters For Larry Ferrini, Ronnie Susan. Maybe you know those old men that growers run? I just do the harvesting over here. What I do only is use a denier trailer. It's not really chain oil or something.
Get repair like welding and I use tractor just, it's not real small maintenance to do in the equipment. But need a space to park all the equipment especially right now with the season is over there down south in Arizona and I got all my equipment maybe you can pass over here by CMAS. I got Lowboy over there parking on the side and I need something to park all my equipment in one space only It's where I need a small shop, like I said to repair.
Not I need like water or sandy you know and it's something just really simple.
Comments? Just You know, when you look at the map, you wonder why is that arm sticking out there? It's really difficult to use it unless it was squared. But that's not your problem. It just looks strange to have that out there and it is open space so... I have a question regarding the horses. You're right next to farmland Right. And you know what happens, and you know that as a you know working in the fields that there's uh now they won't even let dogs walk out into the field
yeah I know that
and then now you have then the proposals to have horses next to the field so how is that going to impact
Well, we're not going to have it. Before I figured out to get some little ponies for my grandsons. That's funny but I'm not a horse rider you know but I guess little horses but in case we don't have to get a horse so we don' t have to get a horses you know because i know the rules right now for safety and produce you know we're not gonna be alone even especially in that relief You gotta be like a thousand feet far away from the animals.
And then right now that's close, depend what you grow. So you grow lettuce, it's gotta be 5,000 miles away from the animals.
That you have to go to access that point, you have to go on a dirt road to get to that property? Peralta goes down to the dip, it goes down toward The levy. And that property to get to it, you have to go on another... Do you have an easement there or no? I don't know.
I'm not sure.
Okay. That's why the plan needs to be developed. Pardon? Yes. We have one comment in fairness to Ms. Boydson. Do you mind reading that? Okay, there's a comment from the public.
This is public comments email that came in from Shirley Boyce and says Maron Council. I'm strongly against the proposal to have a horse stable anywhere near our city and its residents horse poop draws flies mosquitoes and other bad bugs hay and straw invite mice and rats with additional potential for other unwanted diseases, even though it would be out of away with the winds here bad bugs can be windblown two areas Where people and children live and find recreation. From a health and safety standalone, plus an inviting visage and good air no horse stables in Guadalupe. Thank you Shirley Boydson.
Okay thank you now this is a question for Bill. Bill uh is there any other issue in terms of how that might come up against the conditional use permit? Now the horses was one. Is there anything else That would put a glitch in issuing the conditional use permit.
Mr. Mayor, that's one of the reasons there's never a guarantee. A conditional use permit is discretionary. We did the pre-app and we did the review we did for the pre-app and that's what revealed we needed a biological report when we do a conditional use permit, we dig a little deeper So we don't know what's going to be revealed when we do a conditional use permit. But theoretically, and again, we don t have much of a project description.
If it were a small shop and it was on the westerly end and maybe it was conditioned that most of the remainder of the 9.4 acres was vacant And the small shop was close to the road, there is a road there. Could be possible but there's just a whole lot of ifs we'd need to see about biological report I think that's the biggest And that,
I'm sorry. What can we expect from that biological assessment reporter?
Well haven't been in this business a long time I've been shocked several times I worked on Windsor farms and FedEx in Santa Maria. We worked on FedEx, and frog red legged frog showed up in the US Fish and Wildlife stopped the project. They move in the rainy season, so when things are fine in this dry season it rains and if a critter shows up. It's important. It doesn't mean that something couldn't be mitigated but that's why you need the professional biologist. The biologists would look at it and maybe if say some protected species were there maybe there's a way to still build a small shop Maybe it's location, you know locating the shop. So there's just a lot of ifs.
The biological report we need the expert to really make that assessment
and I think given the initial request is that it's mentioned that there's not going to be any power there um and all the onus goes on their on the applicant in terms of the condition instrument in terms of detailing everything the layout A biological report, everything else. So it's an iffy in terms of even after that happens will this council may not come at this council but it's up to the discretion of the council to ensure that Conditioners permit so it's a kind of risk. Yeah, we heard what this one lady and Miss Boyston in terms of animals, and we don't have with although their files and found they're not supposed to be here but it's it's risky. It's a risky undertaking.
That's all I have to say with that. And your report is just giving us the report where you're suggesting all these details that need to come before us, before they can even move toward a conditioning instrument.
Thank you Mayor True totally agree this is a little bit of a challenge Mr. De La Torre before he purchases the land he wants some level of assurance of support and there's not a lot of assurance we can really give because We don't have a project, we don't have a plan. And we indicated that we don't have a lot of information to analyze so even if the council endorses and say move forward there's still no guarantees I might suggest maybe you start with the biological report maybe cost a couple thousand see what the biologist says assuming that the council has no opposition I guess that's about all we could ask for at this point
Yeah, I'm open-minded about moving forward to get a biologist report on the land.
Well we need to see some kind of design and I don't know if it's appropriate question you're buying that whole parcel that 14 acres or? Not 9.4 I think. 9. 4 I'm sorry. That's a lot of acres but it's all narrow but I don't know if you have enough information Senor de la Torre in terms of It's a risk, yeah. Okay. Any further comments or questions of Bill or Mr. Del Toro? Nope?
All right, thank you. Okay. Did I close it yet? Okay, thank you. Now the public hearing is closed at eight 807, 808, 809. 808 closing public hearing. Thank you for that reminder. Okay right now we'll take a biologic break for eight and a half minutes Item 13. Conveyance of former L's Union parcel from successor agency, the Redevelopment Agency of the City of Guadalupe to the City of Guadeloupe.
Mr. Simcoe?
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Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of Council, members of the public. I made a very lengthy staff report so that I could keep the presentation very brief. I'm pretty sure that most of you know very well the history of this parcel, if you don't and didn't read the staff report feel free to ask me any questions you may have but i am going to jump ahead to the fact that as you know the original plan The long range property management plan was to sell this property as soon as the remediation was completed.
And, you know that was years ago that plan was formed and when this issue came up previously to the city council. The idea was well maybe we don't want to just sell it or maybe we want to consider some other uses for it. So our very good redevelopment or successor agency attorney found a way To make that possible, but there are some limitations in that instead of the property being sold to essentially the highest bidder.
It's been it's being proposed to be transferred to the city for quote unquote future development. That's permissible, the county has approved and the state has not objected to this. A compensation agreement has been entered into so that any future development the parties will be compensated according to that agreement. The trick is though there as I say on the bottom page three and page four of the staff report is that there's two issues that affect the property the council needs to be aware of one is the fact that when it was acquired, the city only acquired a six seventh share.
There's a one seventh share that's owned by the heirs of Francis E Cappadonico and we have not investigated that. We did look into possibly doing a quiet title but we don't know who to quiet title against nobody's asserting any contrary rights to the city And I reached out to the title officer who actually did this transaction so many years ago. And he said, the city knew full well that one seventh was owned by unknown persons and they still took the property. So it's a problem we have and we have to address. That is why it's being transferred by quit claim deed. And we will hold on to the deed and not record it until we resolve this problem but Part of this action you'll be taking will be to accept the property and it will allow staff to record it when we're ready to do so.
The other issue of concern is that the possible uses for the property may not be as wide as the council may have thought was possible. For example, there was talk of possibly using the site as like a city facility like a fire station or something like that. That maybe That will be difficult, and it may not be possible. I think it could be but as the staff report indicates that there would have to be an amendment to the compensation agreement and there's about 15 signatories.
So some people may not sign off everyone would have to sign off for that to happen so. But there's the range of use, the city has a lot more control now over what the use of that property would look like rather than if we just sold it on the open market. And that's really, that's the end of my report so if there's any questions I'm happy to answer them.
Any questions of Phil? Since everybody read this, maybe we can move on. Is there a motion to adopt Resolution 2026-03? I
motion to adopt Resolution 2026-03. Is
there a second?
I'll second.
Any discussion? Roll call please.
Roll-call vote Passed 3–0 motion to adopt Resolution 2026-03. Is there a second? I'll second. Any discussion? Roll call · 1 under review
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the resolution passed. Thank you, Phil. Item 14, shall we table that? She flipped me off! No she didn't. That was a high. All right, we'll go to item 14, establishing the Royal Theater Oversight Committee. David?
All right,
you're lucky man to do this.
Yeah. Thank you Mr Mayor Council members staff and community members who stuck around we appreciate it just a little background. Everybody seems to know about this but the Royal Theater is significant community development project. What binds this city to its cultural history, and it's something of great importance to not just its current residents but its past residents and essentially its founders.
So it's something that we want to help provide the most transparency on pretty much with any projects we have in the city just because of its historical importance. So what the staff is recommending is that the city council provide direction regarding the preferred structure for advisory, for the oversight, for the Royal Theater Project. We've discussed this before back and forth. The staff doesn't necessarily see significant operational advantages however it is the council's desire to create an advisory committee Um, so what we've kind of came up with is 2 different options. 1 is a 5% brown neck body and the other 1 would be a 2 person council member.
Um, committee which would be exempt from the brown act. And then we'll just kind of go into kind of what is expected of the oversight committee. It will be primarily an advisory capacity only and would not have decision making authority. Final authority for project decisions was still remain within the city council and city staff. Um, the committee would be to establish or would be established to. Provide community engagement efforts general project direction.
Serve as a forum for community perspectives and stakeholder feedback. Support transparency and public awareness. Act as a liaison between the community and city staff. The committee would not be responsible for project management, contracting procurement or financial approvals. If the council is inclined to establish the brown neck body. You have the interest letters in your packets that you can review or should have reviewed and we can.
Select this option and the committee members, uh, this evening. Um, or vice versa if you would want to go with the council. Members, um, you can make that decision as well. The big worry is fiscal impact. With the increased agendas and administrative responsibilities that come about from the Brown Act body. And then staff contact, consultant contact. We're just worried that we're going to incur a lot of unnecessary charges because, you know.
You call 1 of these contractors it's 150 dollar phone call. And if you're not supposed to call a contract and you call the contractor still 150 dollar phone call. So that's the kind of things that we're worried about as far as over engagement. But again, it's councils. Recommendation so. We're kind of leaving it up to you guys to decide how you would want to act. Again, you have the all the interest letters and that is the end of my report.
Okay
I have a really quick question
yes ma'am
didn't we already vote on this?
You have not voted you voted to create this not specifically how or who
i thought we did
If you would have voted on who?
I thought we voted to...
Sorry, go ahead.
If I may, yes, you did vote to move forward but obviously staff is not happy with that decision and is proposing an alternative but you did take the action so there's nothing you need do to change that is that if you're interested in rethinking that action, you're free to do so.
If I recall, we did vote to move forward with this and the council decided to move forward with the Brown Act party. Not any lesser than that?
You're correct. Okay. So this
is just a re-vote is what you're saying. You're asking us to re-vote.
No, yes it's a little awkward. Staff is asking you essentially reconsider that decision by offering the alternative but As you can see the resolution assumes that you will approve a five-member body and appoint the members tonight. If you decide, if you reconsider that action, you would just be able to do... You would not adopt the resolution and you take the action by motion. That's all. But you're correct Council Member, the council has already voted to establish it but there's nothing to say the council has to stick with that so that's where staff is coming from.
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You have the floor. Anything?
No, I just...I'm not sure why we're getting asked to re-vote on something that we already did think about almost six months ago. I feel like there were reasons that we made those decisions and I would like to move forward with what we previously decided. I
think there's going to be three entities involved with this one is the capital campaign entity, there's the city entity which is ours in terms of what's going on and then in the finance and stuff. And then there's a this advisory committee which is we're talking about right now.
Mr. Mayor I'm sorry to interrupt. I don't believe there's A capital campaign committee and there's not a capital campaigns
there you know there may not be okay
okay well I just want to make clear that there's nothing
established for those people there that need to be brought into discussion
yes of course
And it would take. I have no problems moving on, you know what we're talking about now it's just a matter of that there needs to be real discussions about what's going on who's doing what and I think that that's what staff is saying that might be more confusing if we're asked to if this committee were asked a contractor to say something But then it looks like this committee cannot make any recommendations or they can suggest things, but they're not impacting the actual contract per se. And I think that given personally there's interest in helping move this thing forward and I personally believe that we're acting Without any hidden agendas, there shouldn't be.
And I think this is a way to say that we're opening it up. Where'd Jean go?
Went outside.
Oh did he? I'll
be back. Okay. Go ahead. I know it's kind of difficult for staff with current staffing. Can you guys do this committee without impacting like core operations or the project delivery? And what are the fiscal impacts that we may see with this?
Like, I'm not against this committee at all. Right? I mean, it's been proven historically with this whole project. Um, i'm coming in on a talent, but coming in on talent, it seems like the beginning was horrible. So I'm not against this. I am against multiple people calling or hindering staff from their daily duties. versus one or two people being a focus of point of contact, right?
I don't know how things have gone in the past. I can't speak on that but what i do know is the departments that get hammered with these kind of questions the most are the ones that are struggling the most currently so As a management person, I'm just trying to protect my staff because emotions are very involved in this project. And I don't want those emotions being taken out on my stuff if they want to come out on me or whoever the city manager administrator is at the time whatever the case may be that's fine. That's what that person's for having that person be the point of contact for all information requests.
Which is probably the way you're foreseeing this happening. I would assume having that 1 point in contact with the city to gather information. Is it makes information more free flowing? Because that person knows who to contact for which information and is already in scheduled meetings with those entities, right? So they are already. Being charged for the time to ask those questions, right? And then being provided with those questions from.
The committee prior to would help all this ebb and flow of information to help keep the transparency where from what I gather where they want it to be.
I think you're coming in very late. There's been years and years and years of not transparent, you know information, and I don't think I mean I anticipate more staff changes in the near future. So, I would make the recommendation to move forward with what we decided quite a few months ago, and get some more folks involved I mean there's there's more parts to this project than One person can handle and I'm not saying that the committee would be doing those parts, but you know, you have people that are willing to help.
From our community, including social media and different things like that so I just feel it hasn't been. The project has not had the oversight it needs and I don't see that getting better with. The anticipated changes that are coming up. So I don't wanna make any other decision than what we've already decided because there's just gonna be changes moving forward. So, I think we need to just stick with our guns and the project has needed this and we all decided that.
Is there maybe it isn't developed is there a mission statement that you're talking about what this committee should be doing. Is there any concept of what this group is going to be doing?
I mean, I have ideas but I think we voted on this back in July and we put the statement out to the public to see who would come into it. It's been months and months of dragging our feet just on this committee so there's not anybody in it but I think that if we could establish the folks that would be in the committee Then a mission statement, a plan could come to the council and it could be approved. But as of right now we haven't moved forward at all we've just talked about it and another roadblock has come up so I think we need to establish the committee.
The roadblock is this meeting right now. No, but I mean the report says that you know it's again asking us actually maybe it's the same question we had six months ago. Do you want two people from the council or do you want five people that apply for it? We already answered that question so I don't understand why we're here. It should be let us establish the committee, that should be the only question we have to answer
tonight. My question is what do you expect from your committee this whatever committee whatever group you have what is your role going to be
I'm not even on the committee. This was this came up from the previous, the previous capital campaign committee and then the GCAC all of those folks including city staff got together and decided And not and other folks volunteers that were in the decided that. The oversight was lacking from the city, and the transparency from the city to the public was lacking so the intention is to.
Make more transparency for the city and its citizens you know and see what's going on. I found out about the asbestos, being a problem from an article in the Santa Maria sun, you know i mean those should be things that are being, you know, not necessarily They should be written about before the city knows about them. They shouldn't be
written about it because we in the send me a son, they'll always call in about what's going on and sometimes people say well this is what's going on and that gets out before any of the staff know or any of the council members know. And there's my concern Combine that with a council meeting, with an advisory committee that actually meets and reports.
I mean, I think that's a total possibility.
Yeah.
I have some comments. I'm obviously committed to transparency. I think transparency is needed but isn't it our role as council members to make sure that we oversight on this project? This should be coming to the council maybe once or twice and getting those updates. I know Council Member Furness has had some serious questions, why can't those questions not be addressed previously? And could this be something that we regularly get public updates and a standing like an agenda item?
Well, I don't know why those questions weren't answered in the past.
Because I think this is all about transparency and council member not getting those answers. So if we want that transparency, I think
well in there and I mean in any project that happens whether it's a royal theater or it's the park or whatever the case may be generally you don't go on any kind of forum like a council meeting or something like this and say oh well you know we were doing inspections You know, the studs aren't 16 on center. Like that's not like typically that's not project transparency per se right? It would be like oh you know we spent 2 million dollars on this heating system and that failed That would be the project transparency that would be reported on any kind of project so The Santa Maria Sun or something reporting that, or the Canary saying that one lab tested this and then the lab went out of business. And we're gonna have to, that's all false.
But that was quoted by Tom Brandenberry.
Right but there's no having to get retested and project getting delayed. The project is still moving forward.
But if it was brought to the council via email I'm not saying via council meeting. There were some emails on it. It was reported in a newspaper.
Right, a newspaper. I mean, is there more transparency than
this paper? Well, it should be coming to us first instead of the news is my opinion.
But OK, this is with asbestos anything. Pre 1970 is going to be yeah, so it's a given like it should have. I mean, to go off of a report that's coming from the sun is like To me reading the National Enquirer about aliens. But did you
read the article?
No, because I mean, I can give you my honest opinion about the whole project and you wouldn't like me after but it's just for me as you know, there's a specials, you know, I drove by I didn't need Anybody tell me I saw all the plastic covering coming out of there going. The restoration trucks in the front, I saw they're checking because of the asbestos about asbestos.
But did you know that the asbestos company that we sent our samples to had closed and now we have to redo the samples?
Because it's like any other company, they. This 1 is just such a I mean, the thing we're going to do is we have to remember David. Is kind of filling in a role when we had time. You know, Todd's not here so Todd would most likely have. 95% of those answers for us. And it's, you know, for David stepping in and he's trying to do the logical thing at times. And I understand where you're coming from that we agreed upon a five person committee and all but I'm kind of little scared after hearing what the committee has control of Especially it comes to the finances and what can be where it can escalate
so they wouldn't have control. I think a lot of what's where this is emanating is from those financials in terms of who's doing what, and not having you know specific information to the council and sharing that information to us so we know what's going on. So we have two Request to speak. And I'll add if Melanie Becker.
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No,
no. Okay we can't even hear you! Come on up Mira. But yours was first. Hi
everyone, my name is Mira. You all know me. Respectfully Mr. Trujillo I think the idea of saying that requests for important information regarding... Hold on here.
This
is not a public hearing so
pardon? This is under item 14 and they have three minutes to speak. Okay, but it's not open, it's not a public hearing. It's not public. Okay, now you got two minutes and 59 seconds.
My full three minutes? I think the idea that people are asking real questions as being emotional, it doesn't really quite acknowledge what's happened over the past couple of years If the city had the capacity to provide project coordination, consultant management and financial oversight as written in your report it would be happening. But so far as I and others can tell it's not at least not to the degree that a project of this scope and scale requires.
I know you weren't here but at the May 15th City Council meeting of 2025, the previous city administrator and the city attorney May of 2025 was nine months ago. So while I appreciate that you say that there's capacity issues and concern about staff for an oversight committee, it sounds like there's capacity issues to also get the information and the idea of an oversight is to provide more support And I do think that it would be worth tabling this decision because based on your report this evening, that those financials would be available at the next council meeting.
I am strongly requesting that the council not vote on any motion regarding this this evening wait to receive those financials and then make a decision based on that information on what type of oversight committee would best fit the needs of the project moving forward so thank you so much.
But would that change why the committee is being formed?
It doesn't change why the committee is being formed. But I think that if the financial report shows that the gap in funding is much larger than expected, or that way more bodies are needed to kind of get to a place that would be needed to finish this project, then I think opening it up and having more people on a committee would be beneficial. If the financial show that everything is happening exactly as it should, and everything's lining up, then There's an opportunity to say to council members meeting would be sufficient in providing the type of information and transparency needed.
David, you mentioned she mentioned that this that financial is going to come coming forward in.
Or correct the February 10th meeting. Tom should have all the financial squared away. All the stuff that we can't find working with Annette and everything. Yeah,
I thought you said we were going to at the end of this month to have the financials before we had the capital campaign to the discussion
so
tonight he said that
So, tonight I said that we needed to push out Tom's presentation. To February 10th and that on the 27th, that would open up a room for Annette to give a. A report on like the city's budget not on the Royal theater.
Comments. Pardon? Thank you.
Hi, I'm Melanie Backer and resident of Guadalupe. And I've produced films in the past and I've raised three million on one movie and five million on another. And the reason that Whitney asked for all the financials back in May and Todd agreed was that people On a capital campaign, just need to know where how the money has been spent and what money is needed. We need clear accounting, even before you start a capital campaign, and I don't understand what the problem is.
I would say don't you can't start your capital campaign unless you know where your finances are, or you can get maybe you can sell the chairs. But you're not going to get the big donors to come in. I don't understand why the financing is so difficult. And it is just too scary for people that can really raise money to go out and go out to their people, because all we have is our names. So give us the numbers or get somebody who can do it And maybe you need a professional capital campaign raisers. I mean, are you is Tom going to do the capital campaign and then you're going to pay him extra money for that? I mean, just give us some clarity or else I'll take, you know, all help someone else. With financing sources I know that's all we're asking.
That's all Mira and Whitney and I are asking, I don't understand why this is so hard. Anyway, that's all I have to say.
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You know, if it's every six months for council to hear a report and get the answers make this public because I think that's what the public wants. They want transparency they want to ask questions they want answers and instead of maybe having this behind closed doors making it public so everybody knows the truth that's all there and that's how we can make informed decisions when we're up on the dais
You know, I'm going to be 100% honest with you. I don't understand how there was no transparency with this in the past. I'm meeting with the people doing the Royal Theatre Project weekly I can see how maybe there's been a struggle with the finances, because there's this system and that system and you know whatever XYZ. I don't know all that stuff but as far as like project updates and everything, I have zero understanding of why there is not transparency in this. Can I? You know... But I don t know what the past was.
I think what happens is that we need to move forward on getting down to the bottom, the best tax in terms of our finances with that project. I think you're right on in terms of who's on the project, the physical project, you know, the engineering part and I think that there was... In our probably the void in that getting information financial information Back and forth between the 2 parties, between Tom and our finance department. So there was that gap there so we didn't have that.
And I think that what David's saying is that what we're doing over there in terms of the budgeting and expenses and what they're doing is That's where we need to be but we need that gray area. And if you say January, when is When is that coming with
the, so the goal would be for Annette to be able to squeeze in now on the 27th because we were going to have revat and Tom and it was gonna be a time thing. So now if we can get a net here on the 27th. That could even have an even more positive update because now I think they're ready to close 22-23 audit. So there's even more information that can come from
that. That's the total
city
budget,
not the theater specific.
Right so that's what people are looking at in terms of right what is what is that? And
right now we are trying to figure out because between Tom's invoices and the City's invoices we're missing money And we don't know if it's in the old system that we transitioned to, and we just gotta find somebody with access that can pull the information or if it's total discrepancies. But there was also things like water bills charged to the Royal Theater Fund which makes sense because it's a city entity and city entities still get charged water and then it still gets paid and you know XYZ however It wouldn't have came from the project fund. So there's stuff like that, that they've had to reimburse and then add in and then you know so they're moving money on our finance side to reimburse the theater to get the money back to where it should be.
So we're working all these things out and hopefully... We couldn't get it done this week because of the 15th and all the deadlines for everything. And Christmas. Yeah, so now we're gonna shoot for February 10th, that's the deadline. If it's not available for February 10th then it will be there.
I think Mary you had it right on, you hit the nail on the head. The project sounds to be going great as far as building it sounds like we've got asbestos but that was normal. It sounds like you know it's I don't know I don' pretend to be correct yeah I don't pretend to be a construction expert but but I am, you know, I do have background in business I do have background and finance I have background in social media I have background and public speaking, and none of that is going well.
So, you know those kind of soft skills. You know or and and you know professional items we are happy have people that want to help. So I still advise that we move forward with what we decided and pick a five person committee. Now that being said, if we will have the full picture of the Royal Theater finances at the end of the month. And I'm not. It sounds like we might have more than that.
I think at Mira, you know, I think if we had a better picture of what was going on, we could make this less than five people and make it. But as of right now, I can't make those decisions with the information I have. So maybe we do table it, as you suggested.
So do you want to table it to the 10th? And then after you hear Tom's report, if you're not satisfied and you make the vote on the five person team or the two person team.
Yes that's what I would like keep raising your hand up there. I need your if you're going to
ask a point of clarification and the last time Tom gave a report, the numbers were rounded numbers that were Estimates. So I just want to confirm that the financial report that he's providing would be an accurate accounting, if available of the total amount of money that has been spent so far on the project with an accounting of how much money the city actually has left in their accounts in order to pay for the remaining of the project?
I think you're asking the same questions that we need to know. And I think with Annette here, looking at going into the books and checking things out and trying to unravel this spaghetti. Yeah,
I think Annette goes all the way down to the hundred thousandth penny. She's in them books.
Also, what is going to be spent and what you know. There this, you know, there's transparency I have bits and pieces but it's never been put together as far as well. The project right now is a 1 story without all the options for the, you know that the capital campaign is supposed to pick up which is including the audio system, you know, the whole AV system is not included in this project.
So what, you know, I'd like to see not only what has been spent How much money we have, but also a projection of what will be spent or needs to be spent.
Those are questions we need to have
correct
answer so
I will say that i think this is important to be on agenda item because if it's on an agenda item as council members, we should be questioning staff or project manager because you know we don't have those answers.
And I'm just suggesting get the report ahead of time and you may have to do the financials and then deal with the capital campaign. The next session, I think you really have to look through the financials. That's that's
what I don't even work at the capital campaign part
as far as capital campaign part if you're not going to have it till February 10th and push talking about the capital campaign who wants to talk about that? I don' want to talk about that when we talk about
yes been on a future agenda item
Future agenda item to have it February 10th the same time.
Yeah, it's been talked and then also it was in the news article
I'm so I need to, there was some confusion on what this is going to be tabled which is fine. And we didn't have a date it was vague until the financials are. I think we should, and I don't think we should necessarily bring it at the same meeting because it may be, I don' know maybe unnecessary or may not be ready to be acted on but Why don't we can bring this back to second meeting in February, that work.
It's just a suggestion for the council.
Okay,
okay and now we should have the information that you would feel comfortable making decision okay so the action we need emotion to continue this item until February, whatever the 24th know someone help me.
I don't know.
Second meeting in February and that's all that would be required for the motion.
The 24th, yeah okay so I'll make a motion to come back to this item on February 24th council meeting.
Is there a second? I will second. Any discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. All ayes great next item future agenda items Yeah, okay. Anybody want to put anything else on that agenda?
Previously was there not an abandoned business ordinance or something along those lines? I see it was removed.
A vacant building registration fee uh it was pulled off calendar because we need to much of the chief's dismay with me um he wants to charge ahead But we cannot charge a fee without having a justification because it can't, we can't charge more for the fee than in the services that we would be providing. And the ordinance just says that the fee would be based on square footage but we can't do that unless we have Some idea what it costs per square footage so the plan is to work with planning staff and fire department.
To see if we can do something in house that would meet that test, so we need a little more time but we're going to work on that so that we can really move forward with that make it kind of take that ordinance to the next step.
Perfect. I'm always just cautious and worried about safety in regards to like the previous Bascow's, there was like a board removed. I've seen individuals go inside there and take photos. And so just always want to make sure that there is no yeah.
Well we can still take code enforcement action for certain on a case by case but we would like to have a more robust vacant building ordinance. So we hear you.
And that might also be something that needs to maybe wait until the master fee schedule comes out. Because we only try to do that annually versus bi-annually and...
Well, we need to do the... No, that would be a special hearing for establishing a fee so it would be separate from the master fee schedule which would be updated kind of Well, it could be done in connection with it but I would like to get the work done before that so we can only move as fast as we can move on that and we're kind of there's not as far as I know.
I couldn't find anyone that had done it. A lot of cities just charge a flat fee that's way lower than the actual cost of the service, and we want to make the fee reflect the time staff is putting into it so that it also has a deterrent effect on people that just don't do anything with their building But we in order to do that, we have to figure out some way. We could hire a consultant spend a lot of money to figure it out or we could try what we're going to do which is an in-house
study.
Yeah anyway hopefully we'll have that by March.
I have one more, just a comment. Phil the SLOCAL Route 1 Community Benefit Fee are we moving forward on that at all?
Yes we are. HDL finally completed their work. Which is HDL? Oh sorry uh the plan um we needed to do our due diligence obviously we lacked the expertise of staff so we contacted HDL. Yeah they helped us establish the ordinance and they did two studies for us one was A more general market analysis and the other one was specific to slow Cal roots, one. And the results have been finished by them but then now we have to do our part to bring it to you. And I that was done late in December. Okay, so we're making progress yeah it's we are will will be moving forward on that.
The, the big thing is we need what we need to do it before. Something like before June, because that would be the time that the council would have to make a decision about the tax ordinance that they're asking for. So we will definitely have it, you know, by April, okay so that you'll have time to consider
that. No,
I mean I'm not no, I'm good sooner if possible.
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We have an SPCAG meeting this coming Thursday at the Centeno Center. And you know, then also the Air Pollution Control District, the same meeting that afternoon there in Santa Maria or Santa Barbara wherever you want to go. And I know that we talked about the Caltrans meeting 530-7. Will be using the auditorium? Yes sir. Okay good because again should be a lot of people there.
Food Bank, we saw a total of 246 families last Thursday. 181 returning clients and 65 first-timers so a lot of... We expected, we were concerned about ice so we're trying to move people through as quickly as possible so they are not standing there not to avoid ice but because they're standing out in the street so that those that aren't in the cars That's all I had. Then we go to adjourn.
Adjourned to the accessor agreement, agency board? Somebody wants an adjournment to that? Oh, didn't she? Didn't she? I'm sorry you had something announced? Council announcements.
Okay. I attended the Senator Monique Limon's in-district swearing in for Pro Tempore of California Senate. It was really an exciting experience to see a Latina, first Latina first mother have this role and leadership. I'm really excited for how she will move California forward. She was sworn in by Kamala Harris in Santa Barbara. And so that was a really special event to attend. And then recently we just had winter break My kids were home and I was thankfully able to work from home for two weeks. But unfortunately, I got lots of phone calls of families fearing in regards to ICE. We had 147 individuals detained from Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo County.
And it was really devastating just to hear these phone calls and so that's my
update. Okay is there an adjournment? Adjournment to Successor Agency Board meeting?
A motion to adjourn to the successor agency board meeting.
Is there a second? I'll second. All those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. So we'll move right along, do we have someone on?
There
she is.
Can you hear us, Joy?
I can. Can you hear me? We can. Yes. All right. Good evening Successor Agency board members. My name is Joy Atsuki. I'm special counsel to the Successor Agency. We have two items tonight. Both of them deal with recognized obligation payment schedule or ROPS which is the form that the Successor Agency submits First to the Countywide Oversight Board and then to the Department of Finance. And once approved, the successor agency then receives tax increment which is now called Redevelopment Property Tax Trust Fund money, RPTTF, to fund its obligations.
The successor agency now qualifies for what's called a last and final ROPS So the first item deals with OROPS that will go through June 30th, 2037. Which means that I will not have to come before you once a year and possibly twice a year if we had an amendment to present OROPS. The successor agency staff or city staff will not have to attend the oversight board meetings annually And the RPTTF will be provided to the successor agency to make bond payments and fund administrative costs through 2037 without any further action by the successor agency board or staff.
There's another filing called a PPA, or prior period adjustment form That reconciles what was allocated on the ROPS and the tax increment that was received to what was paid, that form will no longer need to be filed on an annual basis either. The oversight board would need to approve this. Their meeting is tomorrow, then the Department of Finance has 100 days to approve and once it approves it goes into effect through 2037.
If there's any changes which because the only item is bond debt service we don't anticipate that but there are two chances to amend the ROPS during that period And then it's a similar program where the amendments would have to come to the Successor Agency Board, then to the Oversight Board and then to the Department of Finance for approval. And then the second item is the ROPS 26-27, which is only for the next fiscal year. And that's a backup just in case the last and final ROPS, which goes through 2037 is not approved in a timely basis both the County Oversight Board and DOF, the Department of Finance will probably do a kind of mini audit on the costs before approving. So if for some reason that goes past the deadline then there's a ROPS in place for 26-27 so that there is no interruption in the bond payments and then once the last and final ROPS is approved it kicks in and takes over.
Does anybody have any questions?
I don't. Nope. So did you cross over to the item 19 also?
I did,
yes because they're
related.
Okay so is there a resolution... Is there a motion to approve Resolution 2026-01? A
motion to approve Resolution 2026-01. Is there
a second? I'll second. Any discussion? Roll call please.
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Resolution passes Is there a motion to... A
motion to approve the accessory agency resolution 2026-02 Is
there a second? I'll second There's Ms. Fernandez seconding that Any discussion? Roll call please
Roll-call vote Passed 3–0 motion to approve the accessory agency resolution 2026-02 Is there a second? I'll second There's Ms. Fernandez seconding that Any discussion · 1 under review
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the resolution passes. Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay.
A motion to adjourn.
Chief has a question.
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Don't forget tomorrow night, the firefighter appreciation dinner. So we would love many people to show up as possible. Six o'clock is dinner 530 is cocktail six o'clock is the dinner and
and then tomorrow afternoon Jean what time is it? Pre-K, 3.30 that's at the school. The grand opening of the what's it? The ELC Learning Center so now there is a motion on the floor to adjourn. Is there a second? I'll second. There are two seconds and Christina got that one so all those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. All aye thank you. Thank You David