BodyCity Council
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 January 27, 2026

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CommentMr George GonzalezProposed · by introduction22:56

Good

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed22:57

evening. Welcome to the regular meeting, City of Guadalupe City Council. May we have roll call please?

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Council Member Costa Jr.? Here. Council Member Fernandez? Here. Council Member Villegas? Here. Council Member Hernandez? Here. And Mayor Jolene? Here
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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed23:15

We have a quorum. Will you please stand with me for the pledge and after that if you don't mind standing for the condolences and thank you and thanks Ready? Begin.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Our next item is a moment of thanks appreciation or condolences And a moment of silence. I would like to, there's a couple residents from Guadalupe that passed Anita Adriano 96 she passed from Guadeloupe. Crescensino, CEO Buster Hujano, 75. He passed and also we mentioned last time Rene Good and Alex Pretty both 37 who were killed in Minnesota so if you don't mind a moment of silence if you don't wish to do that you can sit down but please stand with me for a couple seconds for a moment of silence for the above Thank you.

Is there anybody else wish to mention? Anybody? You're good, okay.

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The next item is agenda review at the city council at this time would look at the order of business and if there's any, is there any changes or requests? We're good? Good, good. Next item is Item 5. I'm going to read it out so that people understand. I know we have some visitors that wish to talk about certain things that Chief may be talking about. In the community participation, each person will be limited to a discussion item of three minutes Or as directed by the mayor pursuant to provisions of the Brown Act,

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed25:18

no action may be taken on these matters unless they are listed on the agenda or unless certain emergency or special circumstances exist. The City Council may direct staff to investigate and or schedule certain matters For the condition for the consideration of future agenda item council meeting. So if there's somebody, there's a request to speak for those items that are not on your agenda I have two but if there's any individuals that want to speak on an item that's not on agenda please fill out a form so I don't think we received anything via email regarding this but anyway we'll go to Mr George Gonzalez

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed26:11

Mayor Council members here. I had an issue here it's been going to ongoing process with this incident with the insurance increase that's going to affect Not just individuals, the whole city in general of Guadalupe. Okay? And I just want to know where we stand on this because it's been a roller coaster going back and forth, back and forth. And we just need to know where we're going, where we stand on this matter because I'm getting a lot of feedback from Pasadero and other people. I did some research on this stuff and it's like, I know the Monarch Newton's up here. I mean these Nepomahomes they got it. They had the same issue and they had it resolved.

And Cora's trying to talk to me about this too, but we're trying to figure out how we got from a four for years to a 10. And we're a small community, we don't have no forest out here. The only thing we have to worry about is tsunamis or earthquakes and that's what a lot of people are concerned about at this point. You know, and we just want to know how you and staff and everybody else are going to handle it. And how are you gonna resolve the matter? Because I understand from different insurance companies that there was a matter of phone call to get somebody out here. I talked to Corey. He's going to try to get somebody. I'm sure... I understand Corey talked to you Mr. Mayor as well.

He's going to try to get against the fire chief or somebody from their area to come over and help with the paperwork which I told him, the city can probably use all the help we can get to try to resolve this matter. But at this point is a lot of concerned people and I also understand too. That what's going to happen in Guadalupe, you're not gonna be able to sell a home unless you get insurance. And right now as it stands, insurance companies aren't going to renew policies. They're going either cancel you or and then of course, underwriters like rent out homes or sell homes banks. They're not gonna want to cover anybody that doesn't have insurance which nobody is gonna be able to get.

So that's basically where it stands at this point. And all people are asking for is to keep in the loop and find out what's going on with this, not going in a circle around and round because I was under the understanding that this matter was supposed to be back in June or July, I believe. And since then, I've been personally beating getting saying well we're gonna take care of it. We're working on this, we're working on that. I also got a paper from Chief Cash which indicated the matter that we thought at the time me and Chief Cash thought it would be resolved It was not, the insurance company said no this doesn't hold any weight.

So you know it's just a matter of a phone call I understand from the insurance company and i'm sure Chief Cash would, I believe Chief Cash spoke over the phone yesterday regarding a phone number that could be done to Sacramento to get this done because I understand the insurance companies have a third party that reviews this And the main concern is that people, Guadalupe in general and are worried about it because a lot of them are fixed incomes middle class or on social security retired. And how are they going to afford this up you know this outrageous amount on their insurance?

And that's why I came here I was expecting more people from the city to come out here that I spoke to And we, a lot of us did some research on this. So basically that's where we stand on this matter and we wanted to see if we could put this on the agenda for what two weeks from now? If it's possible to see what were the outcome is because I do have a girl I spoke to that works with the state and she's going to see what she could do on her end to try to resolve this matter or find out what we can do.

So basically that's about it you know And I just wanna see how we stand, and I know Chief Cash has probably got his hands tied. And I do appreciate his effort to try to do some of this. But when this matter first started, I thought it was a matter of the fire department. It wasn't, it went to Todd, and Todd pushed it on Chief Cash. And that's where we stand at this point. So I just wanna know who is actually accountable for this? Basically, the ball got dropped, and we need to find out how we can correct it, is what we're trying to ask for, is what we were doing.

So,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed30:03

okay. Thank you for your comments and I'm, I think chief cash will be talking a little bit. I am assuming we'll talk a little bit more about this. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. Next individual Martha Garcia.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed30:28

Hi.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed30:29

Hi, is this on the same item?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed30:31

Yes. Okay, go ahead. I'm her interpreter.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed30:33

Okay cool.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed30:35

No, I'm just kidding. Welcome. My name is April, this is my mom Martha. She's been having an issue with tickets being given to her vehicles and them actually being towed away it was about you know like how many months ago? Like three months ago or so um and it's because of a no parking zone but there I have pictures right here on my phone that can prove that there is nowhere on her where she parked where it says no parking it's between The Guadalupe laundromat right there. It says no parking facing that way like when you drive in, you see a no parking sign. And then when you're driving into the end of the alley on our side, there's another one right there so it's probably about 20 feet apart like you mean that says no parking and where she lives, where she has lived for 15 years she's parked right there.

And just a few months ago they started issuing her a lot of tickets, and they actually told a vehicle that she was about to get tagged the next day. So, and now that car's gone. You know what I mean? Like she lost out on a vehicle and she has all these tickets and she is on a fixed income. She doesn't have the means to really pay for these tickets that are quite expensive.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed31:55

Okay, I think police chief is here to hear that. Have you talked to him?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed32:00

I talked to Officer Lamone this morning

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed32:03

No, we are not spoken with

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed32:04

him. Okay. All right. He hears you and then he'll get the specific from you so

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed32:13

okay okay well thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed32:15

okay thank you I see another gentleman slowly walking up Good, don't go anywhere. Are you on this item? On open session? Open item? Okay, please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed32:38

So I'm one of the neighbors here from the Pasadena side. I had the same concern. I talked to some of my neighbors. They were telling me they got their increases at $1,000. One had $1300. That's a concern. From my point of view is I just want to get it resolved Because if you go across 2200 homes in the city, adds up pretty quickly 52% of homeownership. As you're talking over a million dollars in one year and it's going to be staggered up and that renovation gets every three to 10 years depends on when it gets done.

And so that adds up in the long term a lot of money. That's a lot of money they could stay locally. So I'm supporting what George was talking about.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed33:21

Thank you. I know the chief that's not an agenda item, but he has some information that he's going to share with us during his presentation. So thank you. Anybody else out there who wishes to speak on an item that's not on the agenda? If not, we'll go to the

consent calendar. The items are presented at City Council approval without discussion is single in the agenda item. Is there a council person who wishes to pull an item from the consent calendar?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed33:50

I'd like to pull the warrants

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed33:51

item which is B. Anybody else? May, can I have a motion to approve everything except B?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed34:08

I'll make a motion to approve the remaining of the balance.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed34:12

Is there a second?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed34:13

I'll second.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed34:14

Any discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye. Miss Villegas.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed34:22

Okay, I have a few and we'll start with Chief. This is on page six of the warrants and it looks like there's, first of all the amount is $13,000 and its marketing website redesign. I guess my question is this a new vendor that you're using? And if so why?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed34:47

Yes we found because of the Tariffs and so forth. There's a lot of designers that are kind of like out of work, and we've received a lot of complaints from not only internally I mean as far as in the city but outside as far as our website. And we have a lot of links that are not connected. People have a big problem with it so we went out we kind of searched who could assist us They gave a pretty great presentation, everything that we were asking for to kind of make it happen not only on the web design but also on community relation items that we could give to the community and so forth. So I have pretty much an entire package that we can get done. And I was also seeing if If it is what we think it is, I've already notified Mr. Trujillo that maybe this is something we should look citywide too if this kind of comes across at least our expectations so we're the test support.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed36:02

I have a follow-up question on that one. Is that website going to be attached to our city website?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed36:09

It'll yes, it'll be the police department fire department integrated in like within that website

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed36:15

within the city website. Okay, thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed36:21

Any other questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed36:22

Yeah, please. Back back to you chief on page 13 there's a new one year subscription of $3,000 for Gov pilot. And what is, what is that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed36:45

That co-compliance? Yes. Patrick helped put that together. Oh definitely. That's a co-compliance software so that we could it makes it easier and faster for us to categorize and issue citations and track everything so that way when we go to our hearing judge we're now in the 21st century

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed37:07

Okay, final question for you chief. I didn't put a post it but um it appears that you purchased a new vehicle for pd 43 43

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed37:19

000 73 or 70 several

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed37:22

several

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed37:23

several new vehicles yes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed37:24

okay was this part of the your rotation process that you talked about before?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed37:29

Yes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed37:30

okay So what happens to, let's say you bought two. So you're rotating two out? What happens to those ones that are rotated out or how are they rotated?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed37:42

Yeah, usually because of mileage or what's occurring right now we're really spending more money on maintenance and upkeep than what we got for the vehicle so we try to, normally we'll use Craigslist so we'll strip everything down and then we'll try to auction it off that way

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed38:02

Okay,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed38:02

thanks.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed38:04

Just a couple more questions this is for Annette. Let's see on page 18 of the warrants there were under J&E cleaning or cleaning service if I read this correctly it appears that there were a number of late invoices do we know why?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed38:29

I'm not sure why, but in trying to remediate the late fees that have been happening we are actually now having check runs every week so that we can avoid late charges like that whether the invoice didn't get to us or we had to wait for the next council meeting for ratification. We just felt like it's the late fees are piling up so we just need to do be doing it every week. So,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed39:00

for specific to this the cleaning service one where there are multiple months that are shown on the warrants does that mean that we're now current with them?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed39:10

I would have to look into that specifically but that's what we're trying to do is just make sure that everybody is up-to-date so that we're not paying late fees anymore and

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed39:25

You've actually answered my next question, so I'm done.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed39:31

Okay is there a motion to approve item B and their consent?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed39:36

I'll make a motion to approve item B and their consent calendar. Do

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed39:39

you second?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed39:40

I'll second.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed39:42

Any discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed39:46

Aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed39:46

All ayes thank you. Next item is management reports interim city administrator Mr. Verheel

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed39:57

Right, good evening mayor council members community members staff. Um, so we'll start out with some things we got going on. We're doing the groundbreaking for last on Friday 3 PM. The contractor, the other parties involved the architects and design team they're all planning on being there as well. Arnulfo's kind of put together a good little flyer and everything, got that out there. So we're expecting good things to come from that.

We got the 303, the courtyard, we got that started. They're doing earthwork right now. And then also at 303, the SCADA system is just about all the kinks worked out of it. So hopefully the next council meeting will be closing that and taking that off the agenda We also have the Amtrak going. We're still processing some middles, like RFI requests for information and things like that.

They have the fancy Portland Loo bathroom has been ordered. That's got like the most lead time for that project besides apparently moving the caboose so as soon as that's moved then we can start breaking ground there Later in the month of February, Enterprise is going to be coming and doing a fleet management kind of presentation with their lease program, how they offload vehicles for us.

The whole gambit of what they can do for us to help our vehicles keep value before it's time for us to get rid of them so we can get rid of our assets when they're actually still an asset Um, let's see. Still coming up in February, we're still planning for Tom to be here for the reconciliation of all the invoices to him and with the city and getting that all kind of squared away.

So with the Royal Theater as of the latest up-to-date information gas companies coming out next week they're going to cut and cap some lines so we can get going with relocating the gas meter We're contacting the neighboring property owners, just for construction equipment moving and lay down yard stuff. And kind of going back over property line issues. The lobby area of the theater has been cleared of all abatements done. They're still working on the interior, well past the lobby portion.

The damage that they're starting to see is more structural so more vertical beams things like that as far as in the lobby and seems to be mostly street facing location on the walls Let's see what else they're going to start doing some exploratory cutting next week. I'm looking for the utilities that are inside the theater, seeing where that stuff is kind of headed and then the marquee is coming down Monday and Tuesday so as long as a permit goes through hopefully it should go through this week we did all the signing on all that so that should be going good Um, and then the other thing with the Royal theater we've been in talks with Tom over the last week. Tom is going to be stepping down as the PM.

As of right now, the city's gonna be absorbing the project to go with our other handful of projects we have going. Um, we are going to push to keep Tom on his capital campaign. Because he has brought money to the project and he is currently looking for operators for the facility. And that's something that we need to get done before we open. So, we're gonna be presenting that next month as well to amend his contract and switch him to strictly capital campaign stuff.

And then the city between public works, the city engineer and the contract management we have on the ground already. We feel that we can take that over so that is my report does anybody have any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed44:20

Just PM is project manager, so people

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed44:22

correct. Yeah yeah project manager.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed44:25

Go

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed44:25

ahead. A couple questions and just to clarify you're still reconciling the finances on that correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed44:32

Yeah we had to pull a net figure I'm sorry we had to pull in that away from process for the mid year review understood so

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed44:40

one more question. The marquee is coming down. You mentioned how long will the marquee be down

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed44:46

once the marquee comes down it will I don't really have a we don't know. No, okay

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed44:53

that's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed44:53

I feel like

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed44:54

no it's just such a big you know thing when you drive a downtown Guadalupe so we shall be prepared for a bit of a change

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed45:01

yeah um yeah at least for the interim maybe we can get the police little flasher thing and we can start doing announcements on that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed45:10

what happens to are we refurbishing the old marquee or are we putting a new one up

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed45:16

do you know Jeff Yeah, I don't remember. I don't recall off the top of my head either.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed45:22

Okay because i was gonna say if they're...I feel like what are they going to do with the old one?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed45:27

I think the goal is to try to refurbish as much as they can. That's what I would know.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed45:31

They're gonna redo the neon and everything else. Yeah okay cool. And then lift it up because it's too low.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed45:36

Oh is that too low? Okay all right well thank you so much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed45:39

Yes ma'am. Any questions of David Mr. Trujillo? What's that sir? No was there any questions? All right, next item. Item eight is the Director of Public Safety, Chief Cash.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed45:54

Chief, do you want me to put your presentation up right now?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed45:57

Not

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed45:57

yet.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed45:58

Give me about 30 seconds. Thank you Mr. Mayor, Council, staff and our community members. Just two quick items before we have the PowerPoint up. Last month just so on... We had a laundromat theft In itself, it's not huge unless you're the victim. So I was one who took the report and- You're talking clothes, not the laundromat? Yeah, the report,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed46:30

yes. No, what's theft? Clothes, okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed46:35

Yes. So it's all this young lady's clothing and thank goodness there were cameras there so we put together a Crime Stoppers and sent that out and we had several people call the victim came by seven maybe about eight o'clock last night I was still in the office and so she got to sit and listen To some of those people who called in who identified the suspect.

So, it was in a sense it was nice to kind of have a young lady who was just very distraught and couldn't understand her stuff was stolen and to see the process. And so now we know who the person is and I spent part of my morning driving in Santa Maria trying to locate this guy, but we're working to try to put together a warrant. So that we couldn't finalize this so it's.

And in a sense, it's not a huge issue. But to be able to see that sense of relief from her because she thought it was something personal that she did and to understand and know it's not. It was very satisfying on my end to really be able to help somebody like that. The second one prior we go is we just received Public and well, not a public that is a public announcement per se from the California Attorney General's office and Governor Newsom to all long to all law enforcement. He is letting us know that local and state police have the authority to investigate crimes committed by federal agents. And this is in response to the situation that's occurring in Minneapolis or so.

Just so that you would do understand and you know where what's going on, and this is going out publicly. So I'm sure there might be questions concerning department law enforcements through their cities and so forth. And this is something that we will discuss with the officers as far as how we're gonna handle certain situations.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed48:55

Chief, quick question. Were you the one that put up the Crimestoppers around town? The photo and then the report I've seen it. No.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed49:05

Yes ma'am.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed49:06

Okay. I wasn't sure if it was somebody worried and I just yeah just wanted to make sure.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed49:12

Trying to earn my money okay um The citizens that spoke today concerning the insurance. We've been working on this for since 2024, Captain Schmidt and I, and this has been an interesting process a lot of learning that really occurred on this but then too I want our community members to know you know I hear their comments but No one comes to my office and talks to me directly of what's happening and what's going on.

I've only had, I got a couple back there. She's my parking enforcement officer. We have been working together because they had a similar issue. And Captain Schmidt reached out to some of the insurance agents and they asked if we could do a letter for them so that They can have some cushion room while we continue to work on that. So, I've written 13 different letters and contacted different agents.

I've only had one agent so far come back and say that they don't accept the letter. So there's a lot of miscommunication that is occurring, and for future reference, I'd let anybody know please come by my office if you really wanna know what's going on. Okay, first of all, I'm gonna really show that people can understand what happened where we're at and what we're looking at for the future concerning this situation.

You can see there, the purpose of the schedule. The ISO outlines the criteria for evaluating fire prevention, fire suppression capabilities in individual communities or fire protection areas. The purpose of such an evaluation is to develop a public protection classification which everyone understands is PPC for property insurance ratings. Okay? The schedule is a property insurance rating tool and it's not intended to analyze all aspects of a comprehensive Comprehensive Public Fire Protection Program.

ISO, the report everyone's referring to collects and evaluates information from communities in United States and others and their structure fire suppression capabilities. The data is analyzed using their fire suppression rating schedule and then a public protection classification grade is assigned to the community. The surveys are conducted whenever it appears that there is a possibility of a PPC change, as such the PPC program provides important up-to-date information about the protection throughout the country. So first of all is the evaluations are done via surveys that are sent to fire departments And I am where the buck stops. If anyone's asking as far as Captain Schmidt and I worked together to do this, and there was already a classification prior to my employment.

So we'll show you how many years in between different evaluations This is the important part too. ISO is not a public agency, so there's no regulations. It is an independent company that serves insurance companies, communities, fire departments, insurance regulators and others by providing information at risk. And I really say that in the sense this is a private company, we don't have any control as far as a local fire department Knowing what their standards are on a regular basis. So if you would, if they were a state agency it's written, it's public we always know what we have to do to stay regulated so like I said before this is an independent company The ISO's expert staff collects information about municipal fire suppression efforts in communities throughout the United States.

Each of those communities, ISO analyzes the relevant data and assigns a grade from one to 10. One is you're outstanding and 10 is you did not meet. And this is the most important part if you look at on that slide, class 10 indicates that the areas fire suppression program did not meet their minimum criteria Okay. Okay, these are the things that they collect information on. They review the emergency communications accounts for 10% of the overall score.

They reviewed apart the fire department, it counts for 50% of the overall score and they reviewed the water supply system which counts for 40% of the overall score. So you can see You get a one, you gotta score about 90 or more. And if you get a 10 it's either a zero which what it comes down to be so you can have anything in between but if you get a 10 they're not going to cover you this one here shows through countrywide, where a lot of the scores came up. You could see there at 10, there's about 1500 okay?

We were prior of four okay we were very low on that scale okay and it'll show later on where our score is now and you see at the very top the last time they did an evaluation was 2017 seven years ago The review, ISO concluded its review of the fire suppression features being provided by Guadalupe and we received a 10. This is the chart and the part that I found out is when I talked to some of the agents no one had this except for me. The agents all they give them is a number My own fire department didn't have it, which I didn't know. I thought my captain did so I get it. So I'm sharing something that really most times it doesn't really come out in the public but it's information that people need to understand. So you see there emergency communications, okay?

Credit available is a 10. We got a 9.2. Our fire department, the top credit you can get is 50 we're at 15.59 Water supply, you can get a 40. We're at 28.96 and for divergence for other community risks so forth, you can get a 5.5, we got a 4.23. Our total score is 49.74 out of 105 and I'm not sure if it's on the slide but on that score, we pretty much... The next slide, I think we went down to a six Which it is there, so it's imperative that you are aware that you're currently and this is I'm sharing now as an email.

That I communicated with the people that are doing the evaluations says that currently survey result in class 10 due to not meeting the minimum response for firefighters. can be three firefighters and one chief officer on the initial alarm to all structure fires. Your point total also results in a retro progression from a class four to a six. The part I want to really kind of get across here, our score was a six.

The way their scoring does is if you do not score in each category And if you miss one category, they don't care about the score. You got a 10. Everyone kind of understand that? So it took me awhile because the first time I called, I asked them well we got a 49 so I'm looking at like in school what's the number to pass and I was told there is no number to pass. It says if you miss one of those things Then I don't care what your score is, you got a 10. And you could see right there what happened is.

You need to have 4 firefighters on each shift since we do not. We did not pass before even took the survey. This is what they told me where we lost our points. Okay deployment analysis okay? We lost about a point because Station 1, which is over at the vets facility. We have no one there so we lost a point. Company personnel okay you can see we got a 2.5 and we dropped from 7.78 that was the hit training 2.82 and we got a, uh, we dropped from a 4.56 so that was about two drops the other one's about five and water supply and I'll explain, I'll explain all this other initially.

We had a 19.8 we dropped, uh we could have had a 28.75 so only those four areas out of everything else were where our deficiencies were but The way they grade, all that doesn't matter because we do not have four. Technically we would have to have 100% hiring for additional fire. So proposed correction methods, Captain Schmidt and I talked about for the station. There's only one point and right now we don't have a staffing to put somebody just sitting over there.

Company personnel, the only way you can get this is hiring and let me finish this in training it's just more of increasing our scheduling of how we do training When you only have two people there and the others are off, it's kind of hard to do group training because then that's a lot of overtime or calling somebody back into work. And for the water supply it's only pretty much about increasing our flow testing cycles so at least uh the last two are internal those things that we can definitely change Okay, and says here this is the email says your plan of improvement should be received no later than November 11 2024. We had been talking with them about how we can get things done.

Captain Schmidt, we found the one of the representatives who did who does a survey they were in the orchid area and we had arranged To have them come here physically so we could work to find a way to kind of get around that. And while Captain Schmidt was on the phone, they were kinda going down well have you done this? Have you done this and when we got to the area of staffing says well we don't have four ago he failed and conversation was over.

So they're saying here, the plan should address the steps that would be taken to ensure the minimum response of four firefighters will be met. You may also address other areas where points were lost. Please be advised that additional points cannot be adjusted unless the minimum response is met. So it doesn't matter what we adjust if we don't meet the minimum response you failed anyhow.

Steps taken to correct deficiencies. So, you know some people kind of ask well what have we been doing since? Okay 2020 I can't see it up there. 2020, the fire. After I was hired, we started off and people talk, well what has changed? When we came in, we had three full-time firefighters. That was it. 2020, I took one police officer position, got rid of it and I sent that funds over to the Fire Department and we were able to increase the department by 100%. We hired three fire engineers 2021 City Council approved the fire battalion chief position that I had been lobbying for and definitely appreciate that. 2023, we instituted a firefighter intern program. What we're trying to do was to find pathways for some of our young people to look at being firefighters and look at long-term method of hopefully getting them within the system to be at least part time firefighters to increase our staffing levels.

2020-23 City Council approved fire impact fees to secure additional funding sources for the Fire Department. So we were also looking at how can we, without hitting the budget, increase our monies especially when we had Pasadena and we were going to increase as far as our population? In 2024, we applied unfortunately didn't get the federal safer grant. That grant would have allowed us to hire three firefighters and not pay money for 3 years so that way we could be able to plan and budget for that it's a very competitive and as my captain stated they usually give it to a department that is like Right close to meeting those minimum standards. Well, we weren't that close and it's a very nationally competitive grant. 2024 City Council approved fire dispatch system to improve safety and protection.

That is what helped our rating there. They knew that we were kind of pushing that issue but that also is one thing increased the budget. 2025, we were tasked with doing a State of the City presentation and in that we outlined our goals as far as developing cross-training of fire and police and looking at increasing training opportunities. So what really changed In 2017 when this was done, we had three full-time fire personnel.

The difference, we had about 16 to 17 PFCs, part time firefighters. The way they grade is they look at timesheets and schedules. So looking at those timesheets and schedules of those PFCs that were here, it's we had four on or that were near or available Right now, we have no part-time firefighters and all we have is a total of six firefighters. What has changed?

You have to look at police and fire departments. Police department as far as personnel change over a lot. They're going to different departments there's injuries there's out so there's always hiring of law enforcement. Fire is they will stay They'll stay 20, 30 years in the fire department. This is a cyclical issue that you don't see on the police side. On the fire side is those firefighters will stay 20-30 years but academies still keep going and with that you have these young people who have the academy training But there's no job openings. That's when we get a lot of applicants for part-time fire. We're the only one who does it in the county, so they need to keep their skills up. So they come to us as part timers waiting to get a full time job.

As that cycle happens, fire, they have huge retirements. When that happens all those part timers, they go get those jobs then Don't have any applicants. We're in that cycle right now, there are firefighter jobs. So why come here and Captain Schmidt and I looked at the pay? I think we came out to almost $3 an hour. Why would you come here to do this when you can get a full time job in Santa Maria?

Recommendations, that has been the change of why We don't have the staffing and that is what the Achilles heel was as far as we were able to do this in 2017, but we can't do it now. So one things that we had looked at, I had visited there's a police department where there's the personnel they call public safety. They're fire and police trained so we looked at cross-training police officers to assist Captain Schmidt drew up a training program and with that we could meet the threshold for ISO.

But we have to look at, let's be realistic if we're gonna have additional training they're gonna want pay for that additional training. Right now we're at top is a 4% specialty pay okay but with that we'd also would have to hire at least three part-time firefighters and we're given approximate cost $36,000 without the equipment so we look at approximate costs $80,000 to $100,000 per year But that is the fastest way that we could look to change the ratings, if they accept it.

That would be one of... That would be the fastest way. The other way, another possibility is hire six part-time firefighters, okay? And we played with those figures and it come about the same thing between 80 to 100,000 a year And we put up there, hire six full-time firefighters. Approximately 116,000 with benefits. You can see they are 696,000 a year. That's why I didn't bring that to council.

That's my budget on steroids for both departments and a citizen brought up who called me says well why don't we just contract to the county? Anything about it, I had looked at that. It was going to be 3 times of what we budget right now for the county to do it and they would only have 1 truck here. So, we looked at other aspects so people understand we've been.

Wrecking our minds out here, what other things can we do? Well there's one thing that we looked at also is with the new dispatching system. The old dispatching system is if there's a fire in Guadalupe they say we send the fire. If it's bigger than what we need we call Santa Maria and they come but that's a delay So, right now at the new radio system is if the fire's in Guadalupe, Guadalupe responds but they also dispatched the nearest fire station to also start responding.

So we thought can we utilize those that are responding with R2 to make the four? The only problem is everyone has to be there on the ground in four minutes Santa Maria cannot get here in four minutes. So we couldn't utilize that type of system to see if we could still kind of lower the cost. We've been working on this for over a year and a half or two, and we've been working and talking with them.

I never reached out or talked to any...I only talked to one agent Agents wanted to call me, I sat last night with Mr. Gonzalez's agent on the phone and she didn't know any of this because at first she was pretty hot and I understand that. She wanted to vent, she wants to represent her clients. Well if I explain, she says, I didn't know that since I've never seen the report all I get is a number now I understand it. It doesn't correct it but now she understands And so, I will definitely take a hit on that as far as people just wanted to know what was going on and that's why I thought to kind of put this together.

We're still going to brainstorm if you go to the next slide and see what I'm talking about pros and cons okay we can do that meet the ISO standards we can improve public safety But it's cost prohibitive. I still have to go through employee unions and thank God, I got Phil because we get beat up and oh, and Sylvia think she's great but yeah, we deal with employee unions. And I've talked to cops about doing it. Some don't wanna do it fire some don't wanna do it so there's negotiations and the cost negatively affects other city programs and departments I think that should be it. So, um, I hope People understand that we have not just been sitting on this, we've been working on this going through this. I've learned an awful lot about this every seven years.

So we're looking at like what can we do? And if the last part of someone on Facebook there was a gentleman who put information down and it was outstanding about just pretty much what I had but even more in depth about what the process and he put on there telling people it's not the city. And the insurance company, it's an outside company that's being regulated. He told him says if you really want to change this thing, need to talk with your representative and file your complaint there because the city has no control over that.

And he was absolutely correct. So that's my-

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:12:40

You hit the superficially, but you give us a general information. But we need to take a deeper dive into what we can do and I know that I don't know if Christina has anything from the state perspective what we can do on that end because it's By looking at the cons, you know right now our budget is for the fire department is 1.5 million and that's a good portion of our $88 million annual budget so I think that it's where the council and the staff and finance department need to look at this and not let it go away because we need We need to make sure that we're not sitting on it.

And then look at our state representatives, because that's where it's going to have to end up. Especially this ratings firm. It just seems like they just pull things out of the air and say you have to do this. For a small community like ourselves You know for people going on, you know, on a call at one time it's just, you know financially even physically impossible and we can't get the crew if you don't have the money to pay them so.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:13:55

Do we are is our fire department fully staffed right now or do we have any Job applications or job postings out there for firefighters.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:14:06

We have one for fire captain, but I had spoken with HR and I appreciate she lets me vent is we have we spoke about the intern program reinstituting that and I have a young man he just dropped off An application for paid call fire. I told him just kind of stand by because I'm looking at what I can do in my current budget, maybe to kind of do some of those things.

But we looked at if we could up some of that money of what the paid call person gets there. There are some candidates that already went through the academy and that's the real issue when you go to the police department Pretty much 100% have not gone through an academy. So they get hired, department pays for everything to go through the academy but the fire department, the individual goes to the academy on their own dime and then they go look for a job.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:15:08

I have one more question. So sometimes in rural communities, they have volunteer fire departments. Is that something that you've thought about?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:15:15

It doesn't give a rate. It doesn't- It doesn'

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:15:18

increase that if they were to respond.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:15:20

No. And when we talked about having the police assist because we have two officers on shift, the way they calculate for an officer is 0.5. Okay. So two officers may be one firefighter So that's why we'd have to also hire some kind of part-time. So, we'd only have three and I can count if I get to the scene and I assist with so I'd have to be trained also to help keep that number. Oh

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:15:52

my gosh!

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:15:53

Okay thank you so

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:15:53

much. Thank you. Thank you, Chief and thank you to the community members that came out and shared their challenges I think it's important that you continue to voice any concerns you have homeowner homeowners insurance is challenging across the state. We have been seeing individuals get canceled them. I know they've been using drones just to look at roofs. But as we grow, I want us to be proactive. Look five years ahead as we continue to grow. I've shared before that we really need to make an investment into the fire department. Continue to look at graphs. I don't wanna get too into the weeds until later on it's an agenda item but I would hope that we continue to look at making more investments into the fire department as we grow and we see that need to rise.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:16:41

One thing I would ask is, we look at that as making more investment to the public safety. I'm sorry.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:16:47

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:16:49

Yes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:16:49

ma'am. Any further questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:16:53

So from the ISO rating, the rating they gave,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:16:57

yes sir,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:16:58

they're saying that volunteer firefighters

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:17:01

do not count

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:17:02

Okay, check into the City of Lemoore. Their whole department is still volunteer. Call the city and see what their class rating is.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:17:12

Okay well this is what was on the paperwork and we talked to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:17:16

the person who does the rating. No I know because we were all paid call back in 2000 and our class Dan was but Pat when you were brought on we were probably like Six to an eight.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:17:31

Yeah, but we talked about that last or the other day over here, Pat.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:17:38

So the previous review to the 2016 our ISO rating was an 8. So in 2016, because of some of the changes that included and there was a big push that they did when Carmen Johnson was here with upgraded their water systems and things of that nature.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:17:56

Yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:17:57

With those changes we increased or we decreased from eight to four. If we had the number of PCFs that we had back in the day and those response numbers were there, today we would be a six with our current status. So it wouldn't be so big a difference as Chief mentioned here. Our biggest hit was because of that cyclical nature in the hiring and fire departments world right now There's departments up and down the state hiring, and it's been going on for the last five years. So we lost all our PCS to full-time departments. Yeah because other guys that are our age are retiring now. And most of the people you know are going straight from academy and getting hired into other departments With regards to volunteers prior to that rating, we were at a 10.

So the only reason it changes when we transition to full-time captains and then they did the upgrades to the water system that really brought those numbers down. Okay, thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:19:01

you. Chief, do you want to go through rest of your report or are you done? It's good. Thank you. And like Christina mentioned, thanks for the audience to bring this up. It's not going to go away. We still need to do what we can to... We just need that silver bullet to get more money to hire.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:19:19

Chief I also want to say thank you for just sharing on Newsom's ruling after this weekend and Alex. I think it's just been having a lot of community members and that reassurance is really important so thank you for that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:19:33

Okay we'll go to item nine human resource resources manager Sylvia

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:19:39

Thank you Mayor, Council, community and staff. Update on recruitment. As far as the position for city administrator, the applications have all been reviewed screened by an external member. The candidates that were selected to move forward in the interview process have all been notified. Scheduling is pending responses on availability from council members So if you have not responded to me, please do so. I can send a reminder.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:20:15

We need that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:20:16

it was sent out in November twice and I have not heard back from everybody.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:20:22

So we need a date. I'll

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:20:23

send a reminder. Yeah just kind of give me your availability because those of you that have responded the dates are overlapping. So I'm guessing y'all would want a Saturday to make it a little bit more

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:20:41

Okay, in two weeks can we get a commitment from council to send these schedules? Some place in February. It's got to be February.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:20:49

Yeah it would be nice so I'll send something out just to remind everybody

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:20:53

thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:20:56

Public safety, we did hire the airport police officer and the newly graduated officer has also joined. Both of them are in the process of getting familiar with their teams and that's been working out very nice. The fire captain position that is a backfill. We do have, we did have a very strong response to that and got some qualified candidates. The panel is ready to interview the second week of February So those applicants have been notified as well.

We recently reposted the paid call firefighters to get those applications going and said you got one today. Yeah, so I should be getting that parks and rec we finally got a building attendant. He is he actually started already believe he has Already been able to help so that's good news for our rec department. Wastewater operator too, we did extend an offer and he actually is it has accepted and he's in the background process.

So hopefully he'll be onboarded by our next meeting. The waste sorry the water maintenance operator when we are still looking at Qualified candidates hopefully we'll get some more on that position finance director, we did extend an offer but unfortunately it was declined. We do have another interview coming next week so we'll see how that goes. Workers' Comp, the OSHA log that has a deadline of the end of the month that was completed and submitted.

We did have two injuries in December. One of them required very short-term modified duty but is back at full duty. We still have one long-term workers' comp that does remain active on modified duty and another long term that will be monitored for quite some time. Drivers training driver safety training, we still have a couple of stragglers that had not completed the program. But just about everybody I think we have about 98% that completed that We did the mandatory anti-harassment training at the beginning of this month for all new hires over the last few months and some of those that were missed. So that was attended, and then later this year we will have the rest of the staff so that we stay compliant with a two year training cycle.

Employee handbook is finally done. That is with council for his review and sorry, Philip you have enough work.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:23:45

But it's with Phil or with? Not

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:23:47

with Phil. Got it. And then lastly we have an employee recognition lunch coming up mid February. And that is it for me.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:24:00

Thank you. Any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:24:02

How many applicants did we get for the city administrator position?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:24:05

Total, we got 12 I believe. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:24:09

had a quick question. I know you mentioned building attendant. I don't think the building attendant needs to be at the City Council but I know that council member for Inez graciously said yes to helping us with the Zoom but in the future I would like to see a plan for the city to take that over just to make sure that she has her full attention

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:24:33

Okay. Any other comments, questions from Sylvia? If not thank you. All right next item, Item 10 Recreation Service Manager Mr. Navarro.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:24:50

Thank you good evening Mr. Mayor, Council Members, City staff and public. You still with me? All right, let's get to it. So I'm going to start with October. Jeez, it feels so long ago. But if you guys remember way back in October, we had a few things that were really special. We kicked off with the movie night was really well attended flowed right into Guadalupe. If you haven't heard It will be back, but that was a really a joyous celebration.

We had low riders we had food trucks we had carnival games. A giant slide in the back here. It was a blast, a very well attended evening safe fun for the entire community. We had the explorers in attendance and it was awesome. Then we had a community friend here in our lobby case that So right, you know we had a handful. Next year y'all next year let's get in more and we hit the others mentors event at our cemetery which is the first and that was that was really nice. We had a lot of positive feedback from that had people It's nice because, you know, it's so open that you drive by and what's going on there?

And it coincided with people that were just there on their own unaware of the celebration. It was a great evening. I'm gonna roll into November. November we had again a movie night. Great, great movie. You know, movie nights have been around like 20 people. I'd like to see it up, but... Yeah, yeah. It's still nice. It's free popcorn, free entry and you know why not? Let's do a plug for this upcoming movie night. We just had one last week and shout out to Sneaky Pico and GB Pack for providing free hot dogs so you get free entry, free popcorn, free hot dogs. Everything on our snack bar is under $4 You can't miss, you know anywhere from town. It's two minutes away. It's free entertainment Please next one will be February 13th. It'll be a good one bring your sweetheart Going back, in November we had our last Poetry Jam of the year which we have a member that is part of our Guadalupe poetry society if you will.

It's been going great it's really cool to see not only consistent people coming out which is around like 15 consistent but every single time we have about five or so Five or more new people out of the area. This past one, we just had one in January. We had members from AG and Shell Beach, Grover Beach and the word's getting out and it's nice to you know not only having community members from our own community but the community at large come into Guadalupe and enjoy and have an outlet for their thoughts So let's roll into December. December, man...

That was really fun. Again, we had our movie night we had free hot cocoa another free well attended it was a great movie again come on by just check it out and see what you're missing this all say we had Holly market in coinciding with the Christmas Parade, shout out to Kiwanis. Beautiful evening! It was everything I imagined it to be in previous years. We'll just say the Christmas spirit was low but that was not the case this year.

And, you know, it really takes a team. Shout out to the entire Guadalupe community from Kiwanis, from city staff that was involved It was just a beautiful thing to see our community have that Christmas spirit and see, you know, that joy in their eyes and that wonderment. So thank you for everybody who was involved and we'll see you next year! You know it was a great success and we just want to continue that momentum.

We also had another community member, Shots of Francisco, for being our Santa out there He was, he came by and volunteered and then he not only for that night for the actual parade. But then following day and the following Saturday, he's willing to come out and just you know, and I wasn't sure if people were going to come out to See Santa, but they did and people driving by were honking you know being in support of it and that was really cool to see so just, you know, encouraging that Christmas spirit is cool to just be eyewitness to that around town.

And then we also put on a volleyball tournament on the 20th, hoping for the best. Wasn't sure it was going to go. Turned out to be a huge success. It was free tournament. We had eight teams. We had over 80 people in attendance including fans. We have the return of our Joe Harris. It was incredible. Yeah, man I couldn't have asked for a better situation. You know the participation was there we had people from all over from Orchid, Santa Maria, AG, Nipomo or you know multitude of you know ages all just for fun and although all the games we played about no It was a good quite a handful of games.

But the last once we got to the, you know, we had the first round of, you know, once we got into the bracket. lower ranking team, it went by quick. But from then on every single game was down to the wire to the next point wins which was just so exciting to see and you can't plan those things you know? So it was just a huge success and that's pretty much everything from the December, the October through December reports. We'd like to know, like I had mentioned earlier, February 13th is our next movie night. Come in, you know free hot dogs once again shout out Sneaky Pico GP pack!

Free entry, free popcorn we're going to have some new sweet treats on the menu come check us out and also February 28th last Saturday in February Father Daughter Dance Please, it makes its return. Please sign up for that contact my office 805-356-3906 or you could email me a Navarro at ci.gualupi.ca.us please is $30 per couple. It's going to be a, you know, a fun evening with DJs activities.

What have you we're going to make it really worthwhile for y'all and we're excited about it. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:33:07

Any comments or questions? I had several comments one. It's not Vietnam Memorial Plaza, just Veterans Memorial Plaza. Because there's veterans from all kinds of eras. So I know she got a Vietnam. It's it's Veterans Memorial Plaza and one of the reasons that volleyball tournament went well is because on Wednesday night you have open volleyball so that word gets out that you can play. And yeah we have...I don't know how many teams or how many players to go to that open volleyball And I had several people asking me, I noticed that out in the field, the baseball field, the weeds are killed. They're in the process of... The park staff is actually weed killing.

So and I mentioned there were several individuals that were talking about what's going on with Adult softball. Is there anything in the works?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:34:13

Yes, most definitely. So I would like to organize, get volunteers to come out and let's get this field in order because not only will we have the adult softball looking somewhere in May but we're also bringing junior giants it's a program through the MLB team the San Francisco Giants For youth baseball and softball, registration will start in April. We're waiting on all the flyers and printables from them but we are going to start to push that out. That is a full-on go so we're gonna be needing that field definitely.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:34:55

What do they offer?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:34:57

The Junior Giants? It's baseball of pretty much I want to say the minimum age is six, and then it goes all the way through junior high. It is you know everything's free. You know registration is free. The equipment is free. There's... I mean the whole thing.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:35:26

Now do I would assume there needs to be a program ongoing for them to come in to give equipment too? So is there any energy behind that? Getting a... you know, that ball field can do either. You can do adult, you can do softball, you can do kids' softball, kids baseball as long as it's fixed up because as the movie, you build they will come. That's what will happen over there and it wouldn't take much because there's people that really want Both adult softball and also practice field for Little League, practice field for softball field. As we know there was four softball teams here that played league games here.

There wasn't in my era there was little league teams here but that's way gone. But uh there's people that are willing to help And I noticed from your minutes that it talks about community participation, no participation. How do we get more people? I think what happens when you get programs going, you get an interest. There was individuals talking several weeks ago about wrestling and about other things that were going on. So somehow we need to get the fire going for sports programs and then especially coming into The summer to get that ball field going. And there's people including myself, they're willing to help with that so there needs to be I'll talk with you about getting volunteers because people are tapping me on the shoulder. What are we doing?

We've got the field out there. Let's let's make the best of it. So any questions?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:37:04

Previously, I work with Anna Mejia from the California Conservation Corps and sometimes they have volunteers that are able to assist with like you said outside maintenance. So if you send me an email, I can share that contact. I think the city might have already signed up with them but happy to share that information. And then January 30th is this Friday? The last Blue Heads Groundbreak Ceremony?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:37:29

Correct

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:37:30

at 3 p.m. Okay thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:37:33

All right, any more questions? All right. Thank you. Now we'll go on to item 11, public hearing to consider adding chapter 18.59 to the Guadalupe Municipal Code to regulate food trucks within the city of Guadalupe, within the city.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:37:48

Mr Mayor, yeah, the recommendation is to continue the hearing to the next meeting. The Director of Planning and myself did not think that it was ready for prime time so we needed to work on a little more. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:38:05

I'll make a motion to continue the public hearing to February 24.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:38:10

There's a motion to move the meeting, is there a second?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:38:14

I'll second.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:38:15

Any discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. Thank you. Regular business City Hall repair project presentation. Jeff?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed1:38:32

Thank you, Mr. Mayor and City Council and members of the public today we're going to be hearing a presentation from revet and Albrecht who has been doing a comprehensive study of the city hall, and has some plans for how we can move forward with with some of the things that we can do here. They will bring a presentation forward, and then there'll be times for some questions afterwards.

And As you remember, we received a grant with the help of one of our senators to have $1.1 million to help with the facilities here. So we're trying to figure out what the best use of that money is and also to determine what our future path is going forward because The need far exceeds the budget.

CommentMr George GonzalezProposed · by introduction1:39:28

Right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed1:39:28

So I'm going to turn some time over to Ravat and Albrecht to make their presentation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:39:38

Thank you, Jeff. Good evening. Welcome.

CommentMonse CrossProposedself-stated1:39:41

Good evening everyone. My name is Monse Cross and...

CommentGreg RavatProposedself-stated1:39:49

Yeah my name is Greg Ravat architect with Ravad Albrecht. Mansi is going to do the heavy lifting tonight, she's worked really hard on this presentation with staff and it's really been kind of a pleasure doing what we're doing but I wanted to kind of just start off with a summary of what we've done today so as you know the building is pretty early 20th century right?

I was born in the 20th century Yeah, so it's pretty old. And so what we've done is surveyed the building. The first thing we started off with was a three-dimensional survey where we had a company that came in and basically spun a device that kind of records everything. So I know there's probably nobody here that's interested in it, but we could actually have a 3D model scan of the building inside and out.

And they went so far as to getting take a drone and take it up to the tower which is pretty cool. So we've got a lot of data on the building now. We also had our structural engineers survey the entire project Document the structure. We've gone through all of the previous structural reports and previous architectural projects that have been done, and pretty much identified everything that's existing in the building.

The next step that we have is to start... Well let me back up a minute. We actually have structural plans to repair the building. A little bit more work where you could actually come in Do all the seismic repair on the building and roof repair and windows and all that stuff. I think the issue that we're coming up with is, we know that we don't have enough budget to do the entire project so we've really been doing studies on What repairs need to be done, possible phasing and scoping of the repairs. And that's where we need your help and staffs' help going forward. There are so many priorities. So I don't want to say what the approach is yet. We're looking for your direction and maybe that's a good... Oh!

ADA studies and fire analysis and exiting analysis. So we're pretty up to date, ready to go once you give us direction to creating something that maybe we could bid out and build from. But with that I wanna turn it over to Mansi and she's got a lot of work to present and beautiful work by the way. You wanna take it away?

CommentMonse CrossProposedself-stated1:42:36

That being said, the information we are proposing a timeline, not necessarily about phasing. Sorry, I'm shorter than Greg slightly intimidating. Like a facing schedule that we're currently proposing. That doesn't mean that it's the end game but it's just to give you an idea of what would be, just to start this is general information of the site and the facility currently you know we're in city of Guadalupe. The building was constructed in 19 in the 1930s. It is not part of the historical registry.

Which gives us a little bit of leeway, but we still wanna preserve the historical value of the structure and the building. And then just yes. Yes it's a historical building because it was built in an idea that... But it's not in the natural region. So yes, if the building was in the historical registry there would be additional grants and at the same time there would be additional hurdles that you would have to go through to achieve

CommentGreg RavatProposedself-stated1:44:01

completion. Just to add to that, potentially we'd have state or federal additional guidelines to follow which we will probably follow You know, within your budget. Yes.

CommentMonse CrossProposedself-stated1:44:16

So even we just want you to be aware that it's not part of the state registry but we want to preserve its Spanish style so we can go to the next slide thing. So here we go this is where we start talking about the structural and building conditions as an assessment. We know that The building doesn't meet the site code for a central facility. So, moving forward we have to define which areas will be an essential facility or if the city will propose a different site which would be essential facility, or will be one of the smaller conference rooms become in that area specifically becomes Retrofit to be an essential facility, so that's things that we need to take in account. The roof structure needs to be repaired. There's a lot of roof damage and then we can go and talk about you know the non-shear transfer in the mechanism there's no adequate shear transfer currently between the floors and the vertical structures.

We have again this is all structural Deficiencies in the current building. So some of the elements, you know we're having issues with the anchorage of it there is water damage, some of it is more obvious than others, others we were able to see when we did that when we hired that company to come and do a report for us. So now we're going to go through each the infrastructure deficiencies and inefficiencies of the current facility.

So this is what we were saying some you can see if you walk towards Through the women's bathrooms, you'll see damage right away. That wall there is obvious damage. This is dry rot that we're actually seeing underneath the building structure. Some of the beams have disappeared. They've been eaten because most of the problem is that there's no gutters in this building so the water stays within the building. So it's starting to create that erosion and creating that dry rot in that structure.

Here we go, we are talking about the different areas of the roof. Some other areas like the gym is the most updated area so that would be towards the end of the phasing it does need to meet Code, but it could be improved for future years. So you, but that would be towards the end of the phasing, but we already have plywood there so that's beneficial. The roof can be replaced in stages. So that's one of the things after this meeting we would like input of do we do the whole roof? Are you going to relocate everybody or are we going to do it in stages and As the different departments will be relocated in order to achieve the work.

As you can see here we've walked around the structure, and we started looking at doors some of these stores it's in this is not just for an aesthetic to meet an aesthetic need but it's also to make the building more efficient. And safe. Some of these, you know we have boarded up windows, the doors are hollow doors instead of being solid core doors. So again if we are thinking of a essential facility. We are not meeting that criteria in their regard so just showing some pictures so You not everybody might be able to walk through the whole building, just to give you an idea of some other replacements. So we are recommending replacing all the windows and exterior doors for the entire facility.

Now we're going to start going department or section by section. So we're going to start with City Hall, and most of the building is gonna need to improve in the electrical mechanical plumbing structures of the building. I know that the police, and I believe city hall has Generators that are supplying additional support to meet the electrical needs, and I know that they're potentially going to install one of the fire department but as a whole there has to be. That's something that needs to be taken care of as well as having an updated it and communication system needs to come and be modernized.

As you can see, there's some pictures that you can see of some of the areas and also creating layouts within the building to alleviate some of the overcrowding that we are seeing in the offices. A little bit more in depth, it's pictures of this specific room that we are here. If you walk to the exit doors on this wall, you'll see that there is some water damage and as you walk you feel the floor is squishy.

That is not it for safety. It's not something that we want to look into this, and then again, we would need to improve in the IT electrical mechanical aspect of the building. Now accessibility, we walked around the building. Yes, we can access the building but it's not compliant. We are trying to bring this building so from the moment someone parks they can have access to every space in the building without having to go all the way around the building to get to the other side of the building in order to be granted access The restrooms are not accessible and do not meet ADA compliance standards. So we would like to bring the restroom facilities, especially if they're being used by the public so anyone can be able to use it. So we want to make sure that we're providing an accessible path again from the moment you park while you are at the facility and then the moment you leave.

Next slide, please. So now we're going to move to the fire department and the fire of it apartment currently, um, the infrastructure defenses deficiencies or inefficiencies is for example, We don't have a separation between the apparatus Bay. And Sorry, I'm blanking. There is no exhaust in the apparatus bay, sorry. So we want to take that into account, but the biggest thing is making sure that we have that separation between the apparatus bay and the living quarters. That's going to require electrical needs to come again to be updated. And as I mentioned before, I know that there has been budgets so they can add a second generator so they can function By using that generator, but it would be great if the facility itself could just support itself without needing the generator for that additional support.

And one more thing about the apparatus Bay, the apparatus Bay is undersized they currently have to park their some of their vehicles outside and they would like to be able to park both of them at least within the apparatus Bay to be fully functioning. Here we go. Bri working on the layout of the space inside to meet some of the criteria, again we're improving want to improve the electrical mechanical plumbing of the building living quarters and day space need to be redesigned so they can be more efficient and function better have more adequate flow They currently don't have a locker or restroom facility for themselves. They are sharing the restroom with Public Works and they're coming from calls, and they would like if possible if they have to share a restroom with another department they would like a private access so they're not walking out of their space to the restroom to take showers and then walk back So that was one of their concerns.

And they were like, same thing looking at the office infrastructure just redesigning that layout to be able to meet maybe some of these needs. Now we're moving to the upper part of you'll see on the presentation or in the police department area. With this, again we are going to need to improve the electrical mechanical plumbing structure systems of the building as well as the IT communications security concerns is ongoing in the whole facility. Again if once we replace Hollow doors to, you know, solid core doors that gives you a new level of security but just being able to maintain that currently the restroom facilities there. They would like when we talked to the female officers employees they would like their Separate area.

So have a men's and women's locker room currently are sharing, so it was one of their concerns. There is multiple unfinished rooms on that wing of the building. So again if we rework the layout maybe we can use those spaces to provide the needs We talked about already that we want to respect the historical importance of the building. So, we're going to try to do avoid destructive retrofitting methods to respect maintain the stucco repairs throughout the building replace doors and windows while preserving the original look of the building so it's not just gonna be like oh I'm gonna grab a random window and replace it That historical look, as well as installing gutters throughout. You can see on the picture on the bottom right for me it's right here.

There originally used to be some sort of gutter system and we would like to research and replace it so it will meet that same look and respect the historical value of the building. So here's what we're going to talk about the proposed phasing. Again, this is something just to give you an idea of where we want to start. So phase one, as we said, one of the most important things is getting that roof retrofit and functioning in making sure and we can do that.

With a and then we're proposing how the phasing would be. We would start, for example, we can start with the police department then move down to City Hall finished with the police in public work area and then come and work with the anchoring and the rest of the structural system for the gym. So this kind of gives you a general idea The cost that it would entail.

So then here we go, it would be a full seismic retrofit. We're going to need to replace roof diaphragms and any roof-to-wall connections that have been damaged or are not code compliant. Work on the floor framing to foundation connections to make sure Remove and repair any dry rot throughout the building. Installing the gutters is going to be very important at the moment that we have a new roof, having that gutter system is going to be essential so all those repairs don't go to waste because the water won't have anywhere to go. So we want to move that water away from the building So we don't see ourselves in the same situation down the line. Again, we're trying to respect the Spanish style character of the building and we will try to reuse the current terracotta roof tiles to maintain but mostly it's going to be towards the front of a building which is what's being viewed and then find alternative solutions for towards the back that you're not privy to And that will help with the cost.

Here's an idea, this is what the structural has provided just to give you a general idea of how they are dealing with the seismic components, being one getting that roof updates, that would be part of the phase one re-roofing making sure those shear walls and foundations are upgraded so they can handle the load of the roof Dealing with the dry rot and water damage can be implemented throughout the phases. But again, it's important that we take care of that. And also just a reminder adding those gutters will help us in the long run to prevent the damage to reoccur.

So now we're talking about, so that would be the largest phasing and then going from phase two to five it's dividing the buildings or the areas. Again this can be changed depending on the need or the relocation of these departments. Some departments might be easier to move than others. Some departments might have more funding than others. So this is just to give us an idea. We're thinking of starting with the police department Working, reworking the spaces that need to be reworked and meeting those needs that the department has as well as meeting code compliances for that area. So this is just kind of a little summary of what would be done and now we'll go a little bit more in depth into different areas.

Some other things will be repeated throughout each of the phase like preserving the Spanish style character features, the upgrade of the IT digital electrical mechanical plumbing systems throughout. And then, and then it gets into more specifics. Number three like bringing restrooms facilities to compliance, replacing those doors and windows so we're going to see that throughout because the whole building needs it.

Replacing the flooring wherever needed throughout the building to get rid of a dry rot that it's currently present. And then again, making sure that the building is seismically braced. So in case of an earthquake or something this is almost like a essential facility if that's what we're moving towards. Again, for the police department we have a lot of unfinished rooms that can be given new uses and meet the needs of the building extra storage.

We have the evidence rooms that can be accommodated in these spaces additional lockers or restrooms and then the whole facility would it'd be great if we could have the whole facility with fire and alarm in a sprinkler system Okay, for the fire department. The biggest thing is getting those thickness and fire resistance ratings using non-combustible materials, making sure our exterior doors are solid doors, replacing the flooring dry rot that's present and then adding an exhaust system in that apparatus bay creating a larger apparatus bay for them to meet their needs As well as creating a separate locker room and restroom for them to have as a facility.

Go to face for City Hall, working on replacing that entry door would be the beautiful wooden entry door. We want to replace it with a new door that matches the historical details and then same thing with the wrought iron gates there are there but we need to reinforce for security for the building Let's see what else is modernizing the conference rooms and council room chambers for meetings to make them function more to meet the needs of the space.

I think, okay. Then we have public works. Public works is more of a restructuring of the space so that we can have better flow and better workspace. And then again updating the electrical mechanical plumbing stations. As I said, a lot of the items kind of follow themselves because the whole facility is kind of at the same level Right now with their needs. So for phase six, towards the end we want to bring have that full ADA compliance providing the continuous accessible path of travel and upgrading all the signage making sure that people know where to go And we would have to remove as we're creating new ramps, we will have to remove and replace landscape hardscape elements as necessary.

While removing and modifying in upgrading the utilities to meet the current need for the building and future services demands. So, and again we're doing. A cost attached to it so we can go to the next slide. So here kind of gives you a visual idea of how much the costs would be for these five phases to come to be, and again they're not set in stone is just to give you an idea of the direction we can move towards.

Next slide. And now if you have any questions, comments we are here and we'll do our best to answer them.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:04:34

What is the new building costs 20 30,000 square foot what is it? What's a running $800 per foot thousands square foot

CommentGreg RavatProposedself-stated2:04:45

So, this is the famous cost estimators answer. How much does a new car cost so too

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:04:53

much?

CommentGreg RavatProposedself-stated2:04:53

Yes. So we looked at different buildings and again, we don't have plans that are developed enough to do a real cost estimate but you're what you're asking for is replacement costs yes and

CommentMr George GonzalezProposed · by introduction2:05:06

I

CommentGreg RavatProposedself-stated2:05:07

guess we're coming up with $900 a square foot. It could go higher, we've seen other buildings possibly. Depends what the site is, what the level of finishes and quality is but costs are still going up surprisingly faster than inflation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:05:32

David, you talked with staff. Have they seen this? I'm sure they have. Okay. There's a lot of arm wrestling going on here. Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:05:51

Can I ask a quick question? On the presentation phase two through six, the total building cost is $4.1 million and then there's an additional phase one which is 800,

CommentMonse CrossProposedself-stated2:06:08

right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:06:09

Yeah. So is it about five total? And what do we have for... We have one

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:06:20

Sorry. Okay,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:06:21

right prioritizing. Yeah,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:06:23

we already received that one from the state. Did we grab that money?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:06:28

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:06:29

Okay, just making sure I know that they had a budget shortfall just want to make sure that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:06:34

it's not one anymore either because there has been

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:06:36

cost. I think this presentation was really important. I think we've seen walking through city halls seeing the need for the improvements, safety and protecting the building is what should come first. If the building isn't structurally safe, and we're continuing to take on water damages everything just cost them risky over time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:07:08

So are we looking at the intent of this is to for the council to look at the monies that we have and say, take this amount and repair this and take this amount of repair that.

CommentMonse CrossProposedself-stated2:07:26

He's in

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:07:27

charge. Thank you, I'll address that question. So we have met internally with city staff several times and we've come to the conclusion that since we do have such limited funds our recommendation would be to repair the roof and do the seismic retrofit Now, if I could give you a little story. In 2003 during the San Simeon earthquake, I was working for the city of Atascadero and their building I was in the third floor of that building during the earthquake and I did what I was taught in school which was to get under my desk, right?

And as I'm sitting there, I'm seeing bricks falling outside my window and I'm thinking well this is how I die, right? I was the last person out of the building. Everybody else just ran and thankfully, the city had their essential facilities police and fire at other locations in their buildings were not affected here at City Hall we don't have that luxury our essential facilities are in this building And so we don't meet the criteria for an essential facility. If we do have an earthquake, where is police and fire going to be in those kinds of situations? So what we're trying to do with this presentation is show you what the needs are so that we can work together, look for other ways to fund the needs of this.

And it might be that it's cheaper to send police and fire to a new facility, that becomes an essential facility. And it's at a higher standard but we still want to make this building safe for everybody this year.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:09:25

Just to clarify you were saying what your recommendation is, is to repair the roof. Yes. And in looking at some of the diagrams or whatever. Did I read that the gym roof was something to be deferred? So when you say So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:09:42

the gym roof has already been seismically retrofitted. So it's the remainder, it's the main city hall and the wings that would be part of the roof retrofitting. That includes a seismic retrofitting and also the roof replacement now The work is going to be very impactful to people that are in City Hall. They're gonna have to move out of their offices, out of the wings while it's happening so we're gonna have to figure out temporary facilities during the work.

It's not as simple as going to your house and just getting a new roof from the guys that climb up there because all the seismic retrofitting is going to require removing basically all the walls, the roof everything

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:10:29

Well, it makes no sense to do any of the anything lower than the roof. You know when it rains we don't well you'll see that the Latham plaster just doesn't hold up to, you know terrain. What are the priorities for staff?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:10:52

So Stafford I mean, we would follow the engineer's lead with the roof. If your walls look beautiful but your roof falls in every time it rains, that makes zero sense right? So that would be 100% accurate.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:11:10

One of the things I've mentioned before is most of our population is Main Street And going to O'Connell Park and Pasadena, so most of our population is over there with our fire department here and another fire department over there. So I was thinking maybe DJ Farms will donate property for us to build a fire station. I don't think we can it's big enough to build the fire and police station It's those little acreages. I don't know how many, I know there's about five parcels there maybe Jeff knows that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:11:48

I think it's 15 acres. Do you mean the front parcels where the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:11:52

right

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:11:52

industrial

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:11:54

yeah anyway

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:11:56

i'd be surprised if they just give it away.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:11:57

Yeah I would

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:11:58

too.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:12:00

Although we put a lot of money into their pocket when we're doing the count trans thing. What do you need from us?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:12:12

Uh, your recommendation on where you would like us to start

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:12:15

the roof.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:12:18

We will direct our

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:12:20

that's my that's why I think it might be the same years

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:12:24

and to put a little bit addition on this. I have sent this to Townsend, because there is a grant for essential facilities that could get us upwards of 5.5 if we were awarded and that would cover our costs. Because we do have police fire and we have already like a history of using this or during evacuations with the FEMA issue and all that in 23. So that will be going up next month, I think is when it opens for submittal. So thanks to all the work that they've already done. We need a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:13:02

starting point. Correct.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:13:04

So we didn't have to farm out all of that. They already gave us data that we could use to submit underground so...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:13:11

You know, I was always under the impression that the total gym roof was replaced because we had the tile on this side But the other side, this is our picture. The other side isn't replaced. I mean it's still...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:13:26

It's all asphalt on the other side. On the backside.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:13:28

With a lot growing on those roofs

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:13:30

so

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:13:34

yeah. Any more comments? Any suggestions? This is great! Well that's great since we know what's going on.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:13:41

Also Jeff and During the transition, like during the work we still have to take into account trailers for moving people possibly. So there's going to be additional costs like it's not going to be 700 grand is gonna be 700 grand plus temporary facilities. Yeah and that's just for the rough part

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:14:06

but we have the senior center they could put an office back there

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:14:10

move the police over there

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:14:11

yeah

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:14:12

there's a parking lot

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:14:13

Yeah. He's got so many cars now, each one of them can have a car. This is a very good report. I mean, it gives us a benchmark today. It'll be a little higher tomorrow. But I remember in that tower, the Guadalupe City Tower there's a guy, Amelia knows him, somebody else's, Dicky Moretti. We went up there when we were doing the kitchen and up in the bell tower there's all these guys who scribbled You know, Dickie was here in the year up and up in the bell tower. And the Bell still there isn't it? Is it still there?

CommentMonse CrossProposedself-stated2:15:02

It's just sitting there. Yeah, it's not

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:15:04

it's not it's Well, I don't have any other

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:15:12

questions. No, that's okay. I just want to say that if we had all the money, let's say if we got a grant, I feel like the way they phased it would've been exactly what we would do. So if we get the money, I would agree with that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:15:30

It's great to be proactive, have a plan in place and look forward to the future and hopefully see some grants in there.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:15:37

Yeah, and it breaks it down into phases that we can you know smaller chunks if we can't get a big grant maybe we'll get to the smaller ones to actually manageable small portions of it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:15:45

Well thank you for the presentation. We got our work cut out for us. Okay. Yep. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:15:54

Chief, I just had a quick question. Did you make sure to give the young lady in the back your card? Your business card? I'm not too sure if she's waiting here for your information or not. Yeah, she's waiting just so that way she gets to go home please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:16:08

By the way, I just wanted to you asked if they had met with city staff actually prevent Albrecht didn't set up meetings with every department and they came up with their needs. So they've done a really great job of trying to integrate the staff into all the recommendations.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:16:26

You were there when the two individuals will kill them.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:16:29

Well, I wasn't there.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:16:30

During

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:16:31

the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:16:32

earthquake? Yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:16:33

I was in that unreinforced masonry building during that earthquake. It was pretty terrifying. No. I was jumpy for a couple of years after

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:16:44

that. Sure. Okay. We'll go to item 13. Six-month financial report for the period ending December 31st 2025.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:17:02

And do you want your presentation up right

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:17:04

now? Yes, please. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:17:06

We're good for break. Do you want

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:17:08

a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:17:08

break? I'll break would be

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:17:09

great.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:17:10

Five minute break.

CommentMr George GonzalezProposed · by introduction2:17:12

Okay. Maybe eight minutes

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:23:50

And I'll just say slide, and then you can just change the slide.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:24:00

You can't figure it out on that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:24:06

Ready?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:24:07

Yeah,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:24:08

good evening Mayor members of the City Council community residents staff for those of you who don't know me my name is Annette Munoz and I'm currently the interim finance director for the city What you have before you is a six month financial report for the period July 1st, 2025 to December 31st, 2025 which represents 50% through the fiscal year. I will be focusing on the revenue and expenditures for three funds. I will start with the general fund and then move on to the revenue and expenditure for both the water and wastewater funds.

General Fund Revenue slide. Total revenue received as of 12-31-25 is 39.9% of the approved budget, as compared to the city being 50% through the year. The three main sources of revenue for the general fund are property tax, sales tax and transfers from other funds. These three sources account for 70% of general fund revenue. Property tax trickled in for the first six months of the fiscal year.

The city receives the largest payments at the end of January and June, that is why revenue for this source has only received it 15.8% of the budget December 31st. Sales tax comes in monthly and the percentage represents a real time figure. At six months we are currently ahead of budget at 62.9%. Transfers from other funds are an internal calculation that represents costs of services the general fund provides for all other funds.

Revenue from this source is currently received at 25.3% of the budget. Other revenue sources include utility user tax, cannabis franchise fees, building permits and planning business licenses rental property and other revenue. The other revenue line at the bottom of the list has been expanded to show the activity for that category slide So this is the general fund other revenue. The three largest items in the other revenue category include revenue from other agencies budgeted at 250,000 of which the city has received 207,008 49.

Contributions non-government budgeted at 90,000 of which 90,000 has been received. And police overhead budgeted at 45,000, of which the city has received 39,155 all as of December 31st 2025 slide. This pie chart illustrates the portion of each budgeted revenue source for the general fund. Property tax in dark blue at $2,125,000, transfers from other funds in orange at $1,785,384 and sales tax in green at $1290,000.

As stated earlier, general fund revenues are currently 39.9% of budget and we are 50% through the year. Revenue comes in ebbs and flows and tends to catch up by fiscal year end. General Fund Expenditures, slide. Total expenditures are currently on budget at 50.4%, expended as compared to the approved budget. All departments are relatively within budget through December 31st, 2025 except finance and city attorney due to recent personnel changes.

General fund departments include City Council, administration, city attorney, finance non-departmental building maintenance police fire parks and recreation building and safety and cannabis slide. This slide shows the piece each department uses from the general fund. The largest pieces being the dark blue and brown piece that represent police and fire for the safety of our citizens.

Overall, actual expenditures for the general fund are running higher than revenues through December 31st 2025. This is related to the timing of the receipt of revenue funds. We are expecting at least $800,000 in property tax by end of January, by end of this month. A structural budgeted shortfall is projected for the end of the year and the general fund due to two issues slide.

Fiscal year 2026 expenditures, the orange bar of 8,297,605 were budgeted to exceed revenues. The blue bar of 7,460,584. This equates to an 837,000 shortfall. Number two, transfers for other funds were overestimated in the budget by approximately 800,000 or more Staff will continue to monitor closely and provide a financial report to council. Staff, along with council will need to determine the next steps in addressing this situation in the general fund.

This concludes the general fund portion of the presentation. Are there any questions or comments before we move on to the enterprise funds?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:29:52

I have a question. Yes, so you said that the expenditures were planned to be over 800,000 budget was approved? The budget was approved with that. We approve that. Okay okay so that was that was a that was the plan but then are you haven't gotten into the other stuff that you talk about with measure a correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:30:19

Well, the measure a is the number two which is part of this of the deficit that's going to happen at the end of the year. Which is transfers it was a transfer from other funds which was measure a okay and that was overstated because Measure A doesn't have 780,000 to transfer into the general fund so that was Maybe an error. I don't know, I wasn't here. So the measure A is budgeted to transfer $780,000 to the general fund?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:30:55

No, no, I understand. Measure A, I can't remember if I read it's been a couple of days since I went through this. What is measure A?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:31:05

Measure A is through SBK.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:31:10

Oh, understood. OK, thank you very much.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:31:16

OK so enterprise funds will move on slide please. The water fund revenue illustrated on the left side in blue is currently is currently received at 53% of budget. Water operating expenditures are below budget at 42.8% of budget. The Wastewater Fund Revenue, illustrated on the right side in tan is currently received at 75.2% of budget due to other government grants received of $601,912 and I hadn't had a chance to look that up to see specifically what that grant is somebody might know out there in the audience but I didn't know off the top of my head so But that's what's creating that 75.2% revenue received over budget. Wastewater operating expenditures are below budget at 46.2 percent of budget.

Enterprise funds are generally in line with budget, and city staff does not expect any further fluctuations in these funds. This completes the enterprise portion of the presentation. Are there any questions or comments before we conclude?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:32:29

It's interesting that we don't know where that 601.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:32:32

I can look it up, I actually printed it up and I have it there but the explanation I can't, I have to go deeper into some

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:32:41

kind of way that could be CDBG right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:32:43

It might be a station think you're right. Yes. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:33:12

Okay. Yeah, I know that the property tax is supposed to come in shortly. Okay. Yeah really? Well that's not going to go... it's not going to cut into that deficit. What was our, we don't know. Property tax or fiscal year last year? We don't. Right, maybe a little more.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:34:03

Updated on what's happening with that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:34:06

You're doing a lot of digging You know, and it's back to maybe it's a minor thing but when we looked at the cost for the cleaning and not having to pay interest on non-payment that was like seven or eight. When Amelia brought it up You know, for the. Oh, she

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:34:41

was talking about

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:34:41

that was October November December Jamie and then that was for the senior center so I would almost just bet that those invoices didn't get forwarded to the right people. To get coded that would be my bet but that's minor. Yeah yeah. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:34:55

have a quick question what does this mean for the rest of the year and for possibly next year's budget?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:35:04

Well, that's why and we're halfway through the year. So we have to see what we can do in terms of I don't want to say cutting costs but

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:35:17

staying under budget

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:35:18

staying under budget and right now just you know not doing anything way out of Just way out of this world until we know where we

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:35:29

are. Yeah, so what is boiling down right now is even if we come up even, we're still 1.6 negative. So next year's budget is going to have to be 1. 6 less regardless and we have to try to figure out a way to make up 1. six. That's gonna be the difficult part because we can't get a grant to make up money that we mis-budgeted you know what I mean? That's just not even practical Well, what is excuse

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:35:53

me? No good. I was to say, um, what is our and I forget the name of the fund but isn't there an emergency fund or something to that effect? Reserve thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:36:02

Yeah so the reserve fund is kind of commingled with actual city money right now and we don't know how much we actually have in reserve fund because We're still auditing it's a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:36:16

3

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:36:16

years worth of work.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:36:17

So the reserve fund It's general, all the fund balances they roll forward to the next year. But if we haven't finished auditing 22-23, we don't know what the roll forward was to 23-24 then 24-25 and so that's why we can't say what right now if I printed something out and I showed David it was $3 million but we don't know if that's a true number because Because it's a roll forward from the past and we haven't finished doing the past. That makes sense,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:36:55

right? But if it is a true number than our reserve is very good compared to our operating costs because there would be more than like the 15%.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:37:05

I was going to say, what is the reserve that we have to maintain? 15% of operating costs in general. Okay. I have one more question. What is franchise fees listed on the general fund revenue by category?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:37:18

So that is like for instance, the trash to come into our city and to bill our residents for their services, we charge them a franchise fee to come into the city. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:37:32

Is there any one-time transfers being used to support ongoing operations? A one time transfer from... From any of the revenues that we've seen, that we need to like look forward to and... Don't touch water in a wastewater.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:37:48

So that is actually what the cost allocation plan is. That's, that's the pool some of it well because we service you know the general fund, we service all the other funds right we do their payroll their accounts payable we and we maintain certain plate. We do exactly what you're saying. We actually...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:38:10

So your time based on wastewater is picked up as is other staff?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:38:17

Right, and it's based on how many employees like in finance do wastewater. You know, like our utility billing person is probably 100%. I won't be 100% because I don't do just wastewater. I do water. Well it's the enterprise funds but I do other things not just a hundred percent water so that's why we have that cost allocation plan to take into consideration what all the employees do and you know what funds they work with and so forth Like that, and we only use direct. And then what we do is we use each each funds their direct costs knowing it's our direct cost so what we do is we use a portion of percentage of their fund to pay back the general fund. But we don't include in their fund, like Measure A, we don't include capital expenditures.

We don't include debt service. And so what happened in Measure A capital was included and then it spiked it up and we knew that wasn't right. There was something because they don't have that much, it just didn't make sense. So anyway, that's what happened there.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:39:37

One more question. I'm on page two of the report there's negative in the revenues for other permits and fees,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:39:47

so we think what that is, is like a refund on there because when people It's typically whatever we don't use in consult, like for the engineer or whatever. Then we refund it and I'm thinking that might be a mistake like it should be in another category but that's what I believe that could be so okay

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:40:12

because it looks I mean it's so it's minor but you know when you're

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:40:16

out

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:40:17

yeah when you're looking at we were anticipating Almost, you know.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:40:24

Right. We're the other way.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:40:25

Exactly. And then what if you recall contributions non-government? There's a $90,000 revenue. Do you recall what that was?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:40:34

So again...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:40:37

It's okay if you don't

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:40:38

understand. I don't know specifically what it is because... What?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:40:48

Oh. That's a Chevron check. Is it the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:40:53

90,000?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:40:54

Yeah. But she's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:40:55

talking about something else. Contributions non-government that makes sense.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:40:58

We

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:40:59

got 90K? I just didn't know they

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:41:01

still did that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:41:01

Yeah they do yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:41:02

They did it

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:41:03

when I was

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:41:03

here back in 20...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:41:05

Yeah they're doing it for 27 years so that's...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:41:07

Wow! That's nice.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:41:10

Let's tell them to triple

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:41:11

it then. Thank you. I didn't know they still did that. Yeah, so that doesn't mean they're done with the audit. No, it's just part of the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:41:39

audit. That's one

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:41:40

procedure that we need to do and we are still working on it. And actually, we started that's why you got the letters because we couldn't start before then because the auditors were working on 2425 for all their other customers. So we had to wait until they were done and then we could get started.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:42:04

Well the expenditures for the finance and city attorney stabilize at some point or just because we're gonna

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:42:10

right now we have consultants in finance that we didn't have before because I'm, I can't do this alone. There's just too much so. He's really helping us. And he's sort of the go between two with the auditors in terms of, I mean, I get stuff reports going but if he can get stuff and he gets it so we're kind of working as a team trying to just push it through. Thank you for that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:42:38

clarification. I know that audit is super important. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:42:42

Any more questions? Fingers crossed. Appreciate your work, all the staff that are doing this. Going back and looking at some of the issues that we're facing today. It's just like the building, you need to know what that is so that we can move forward. Do you have any questions for us or comments?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:43:09

No, I just appreciate staff support. I really do. I think David's been great. I will run in there and tell him things and I don't know if he wants to hear them but I still keep him informed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:43:24

And don't say not her again.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:43:27

It's always a pleasure. It is what it is.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:43:31

It' s

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:43:31

great

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:43:31

information. Okay, item 14 future agenda

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:43:38

items.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:43:43

We didn't mention that I'm sorry go ahead unless you folks like Catherine's meeting somebody

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:43:48

yeah for future agenda items um i just want to see if we can add the abandoned building to unscheduled items i know i mentioned it before but i think it's important we have it under there i don't know if that's possible

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:43:59

Are you talking like the ordinance and all that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:44:02

Yeah, yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:44:04

Okay. Are you close enough to even adding that to the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:44:08

schedule? Yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:44:09

Okay,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:44:10

just on schedule just because I don't want to continue to remember at one point I am going to forget and And then also I was reached out by the Santa Barbara Botanical Garden. They are celebrating their centennial so they asked if we can support it with a resolution for April on biodiversity and native plant resolution, not sure if anybody would disagree on having And then I also was reached out in regards to offshore drilling.

I wanted to see if council would be supportive and submitting a public comment opposing the inclusion of offshore to California waters, the federal program could include Californian waters unless local government comment given Guadalupe's history with oil contamination in the dunes. I believe it's important that our city's experience are part of that record.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:45:01

I would support that. Go ahead.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:45:06

The first one is an unscheduled item for abandoned buildings.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:45:10

Oh, I'm sorry.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:45:11

Yeah. Just was wondering if that would be okay of council to be supportive of a public comment in regards to that? I know that this administration is trying to find any loophole and so I want to see if we can protect our We are still seeing the damages of the oil spill out at the dunes and so Chevron is still trying to recover. And so I'm really appreciative about that council support on this.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:45:49

Please agenda on February 10 it looks like we're going to have a Royal Theatre update, and then on February 24 have the Royal Theatre Oversight Committee discussion. However that pans out with recent changes is the Royal Theatre update going to include the financials.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:46:07

Are you talking to one on the 10th

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:46:09

correct.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:46:10

Right.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:46:11

That will include this close, whatever we have right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:46:14

Right. I think some of the biggest issue with the theater stuff as of right now is the mom stuff.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:46:22

So I'm, I am working with Tom and we just are comparing invoices right now to make sure that he has all the ones that I have and I have the ones that he has. So tomorrow I'm actually there were some that were on not on his list that were on my list so I have to have one of the people in my department look at them, look up all the invoices. And then talk to him about them so that we can see if his number is going to get closer to my number or vice versa, because we're just trying to narrow it down. Is there a significant discrepancy? No, it's not so much significant. It's just why do I have invoices and maybe he just didn't get them. That's what I'm thinking.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:47:10

Just to confirm that will be discussed on the 10th. OK, thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:47:16

Any, uh. Announcements. Please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:47:25

Yes very quickly. It's late. I haven't eaten. Uh. I attended the fire appreciation dinner which was at the Elks shout out to Louis Ramos. Who was our firefighter of Where representatives came in and gave us an update on all the different projects and the timelines of that. Last Thursday I went to a forum on, can you read? Human trafficking which is given by Santa Maria Rotary and it was at the Country Club this time. Phillip was there as well. Phillip sat at my table And it was jam-packed. Last year they talked about, I attended last year's forum, they talked about female trafficking. This year they talked about male trafficking and it was pretty heavy.

Very heavy. Chief? Oh yeah, I won't go into... It was very heavy. And Friday, oh Friday I went to the presentation on Behind barbed wire. That was outrageous, that was so excellent I can't tell you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:48:47

how. Did they actually play?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:48:50

Say it again?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:48:51

Was there music?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:48:52

Yeah there were two different, there was a jazz band, swing music, Greg's in that my brother was in that and on the I'm pointing on the stage on the left side was the orchestra from San Luis Opera And depending on the program, you have a different music. It was sold out. We were lucky to get tickets after that woman came and spoke about it. I went online right away and my sister in law went online two weeks after Clark Center. Yeah, it was sold out last year. And when we left, I asked if it was going to be Shown again, and they said it probably will be next year. So I encourage one thing that was very interesting there were a number of things but one individual who was the son of an individual who was they use the term detained detention camps as opposed to intern Internment camps, which is the term I heard growing up.

And he cited this was Central Coast Japanese families that were detained and or put into detention camps. Roy Grandy, Santa Maria and Guadalupe. The number of Filipino, excuse me, Filipino, oh sorry, Korean, Japanese for Roy Grandy that were taken away were 200, okay? Uh for Santa Maria the number taken uh to detention camps were 400. What do you think Guadalupe's stat was?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:50:35

I'd expect every other person in town.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:50:38

Draw out a number 800 that blew me out of the water. Guadalupe 800. Santa Maria, I would have thought yeah the reverse but anyway i won't go on further but it was superb.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:50:53

There is a documentary, it's like maybe not documentary but it's two minutes long in regards to that. In Guadalupe and it's very-

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:51:01

One thing very quickly I wanna mention several years ago there was a presentation at the Vets Hall you probably remember who talked gentleman talked about Chinatowns?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:51:08

Right

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:51:09

Okay And then it switched into the Japanese detention camps and so forth and people on the central coast and then the gentleman talked about reparations And I wanted to know what the average amount of the check was, the reparations.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:51:26

Was it 20 grand?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:51:28

And a woman who was at that particular meeting turned around and said, Japanese woman, said, I don't remember but I bought a new Honda. She was at this barbed wire presentation and she spoke. You probably know her, Margaret Cooper, and she's 98 years old And so she was a young one in Tule Lake, I think it was.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:51:57

Thank you for that update.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:51:59

How many people came to the Caltrans meeting?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:52:01

30? Good, glad to hear that. Do you have anything, Gene? Caltrans at that meeting had talked to one of the Caltrans representatives and she said that they were going to come to Guadalupe to talk about the issues around Paso De La. Was anything confirmed with them yet?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:52:28

I think we have a meeting the first week in February

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:52:34

Okay, I know she said in a couple of weeks and that was last

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:52:36

week. I think it was me and Jeff. I know we're on the invite

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:52:40

because there was most of the people were a good portion were from Paso Verde and then it's a big issue so good. We need to confirm that too. I hope they'll involve the community too so they know what's going on. And then also Smith with DJ Farms I'll follow up and you will too, I'm sure. Okay. Is there an announce- Mayor?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:53:05

Just really quick. Yeah. Just wanted to share that I attended the, as well, this Caltrans meeting, the MLCAL celebration but today I had the opportunity to attend a community listening tour at the Boys & Girls Club. It was very insightful and we heard from Chief Williams of Police in Santa Maria and he kind of shared his philosophy and I was really inspired by this But they shared that their philosophy this year is to support youth. Talk to them instead because many times when police have interactions with youth, it's usually at a stop or traumatic incident and in Guadalupe we have 40% of youth living under the poverty line.

And so- Forty percent? Forty percent correct. Just thought about those two statistics and I hope in the future we can have like an agenda item just about youth and how we can support them because, um. They need our support. And so thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:54:09

That it is their most to adjourn Jean. All those in favor of the motion say aye. Good job, good job

CommentMr George GonzalezProposed · by introduction2:54:23

staff.