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Okay, thank you. Item 6 is a consent calendar. The following items are presented for approval without discussion as a single agenda item. Is there a council person that wishes to pull an item to discuss outside of the consent calendar? I don't believe we've received any public comment regarding that so is there a motion to approve the consent calendar?
I'll motion to approve the consent calendar
Is there a second?
I'll second.
Any discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye.
Aye.
All ayes, thank you. Now we'll go to management reports Mr. Trujillo
All right, good evening Mr. Mayor, council members, staff and residents. Okay so what we got going this week we got some stuff with the Royal Theater they were able to get some footers poured on the inside of the facility and they got the okay for the facade for the front wall. They've started demoing that a little bit at a time They still can't really go all the way because we're still waiting for the impression permit for the sidewalk and, and all that through Caltrans.
All of which was submitted last week. So that's just pending now. We are kind of starting to make some relationships with the permit inspectors and the permit writers. It's a slow process kind of befriending them, but they're kind of starting to see what we're going through. So they're kind of starting to come on our side good. They are getting inspected this week on some interior rebar and some rebar on the south pad those pending passing the city inspector then they hope to pour at least the South Pad this week and then They're doing some re, checking some stuff with the architect. They yanked off some plaster on the inside of the building or the bathrooms and it doesn't look like it's gonna fit with the original design. So they're probably gonna have to fur it out a little bit and then throw some drywall but they're just making sure that that's within the cost formula that we have going right now.
And then with the park With Las Mujeres, we got the skate park guys out there. They're getting their construction going. They started doing some paving in the parking area on the I guess it's a 9th Street side right there by the jail they've redone some stuff right there. They had to pull some stuff out and put some stuff back in because of the sidewalks weren't poured with ADA compliance but all that got fixed so they're moving right along.
Their big thing that they had is the Portaloo, which is the outside bathroom that's going in there. That takes some processing time but they're anticipating that to end of June beginning of July so you know it's still falling right into the middle of their construction period so we're not gonna get bogged down at all with that over here at 303 at the courtyard.
All we're really waiting on is the gates. They had to do a redesign because I think the original design had the gate kind of floating instead of on a wheel, like on our track and the distance wasn't taken into account. So now with the distance they're getting one with the wheel put on so they're getting that all back sorted out but even with that they're expecting that hopefully fingers crossed this week And all they're doing is striping, putting some landscaping behind the bus stop right there against the fence. They're gonna replace the fence slats make that all kind of look even the same you know all the way across and then once I've done this done it'll be the first project to 26 complete we're shooting for possibly this week Worst case scenario will be next Friday with trying to get smart.
To come on over, pull into the little bus charging station. Get some stuff for the social media stuff and show that we actually have a fully functioning charging station and fleet charging all that as well. They did run into an issue with the breaker. So, pending how fast that actually comes in it might not actually be working for the picture but it'll be like the next week. That's just way order and the way ordering goes sometimes you get here when you want to sometimes you don't so that's that.
The only other thing we kind of had we've had day and error coming through all this All this grant paperwork, and we're starting to get a bunch of reimbursements going and getting some money coming back to us. We were on a talk last week with the new agency that is doing our grant management. And they brought up that based on our population CDBG might be giving us formula money or might should be giving us formula money Because of our population and we're DAC and all these kinds of things that kind of meet this little criteria.
So they are looking into that, and then we will let you guys know what they come up with. But that is all I have so is there any questions?
I think I mentioned, Vanessa? No go ahead. That the charging station at the senior center, is that going to eliminate that and charging is gonna go That's
correct as soon as I'm charging. Is fully functional at the courtyard at 303, then we can charge our fleet vehicles. So, we will decommissioned the charging station at the senior center and then with hopes that with the earmark funds that we received from Carver Hall's office just replace that with a pay to use charger so that we don't eliminate the ability for people to charge there. We just don't make it free.
So that's the plan.
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Yeah, I did. I know that David recently met with me last week in regards to some concerns in regards to not having a recreation manager and I still continue to get those concerns I wanted to see if there you can share a little bit about if there is a plan in place, I know that there's summer recreation coming up. Kids are out on school so you know I just signed up for the Junior Giants as a coach, I want to see what that looks like I know I got an email saying that, um, that little league opens up next week. And so I want to make sure that parents aren't for form what does that look like for them they're going to start making plans.
And then I continue to get questions in regards to the horseshoes. I know that when we have the cleanup at the park there are some funding that went into supporting The park updates. And so, also if you have any updates in regards to that that way I can also share with the horseshoes I think they're just eager to get out there and play and I think anytime we have a space for the community that's really important to keep maintained.
Yeah, so we'll start with the junior giant stuff. The, I guess he's the local commissioner Fernando. He came by today. Uh, I was not in the office, but I intend to call him tomorrow that is not something that we're looking to stop or postpone. But as you know, today being a council day, there's not a lot of room for.
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Just random meetings, so that's on the agenda tomorrow because we need to get in touch with him. Find out how many coaches we have do we have enough coaches? What are the steps going forward I think they have a slack channel that they do their communication on. So, we need to get up to speed on that and then also start to get in touch with the. Recreation commission and get them more involved and back on board with this whole process.
And then for the horseshoes, the mayor brought that up to me this morning as well. So we will start having the maintenance guys go out and assess that and get that back in operational order. With it being a horseshoe pit, it shouldn't take that long to actually get functioning again. They're pretty simple stuff. There should be like a one day turnaround or so.
We'll get them out there and get that going.
That's a pretty easy fix. There are three horseshoe pits. TrustPro donated wood about a month and a half ago for that, and it's in the storage area. And so it's a matter of Just getting the crew out there and I know the fence was down, and then Sam was put there. I don't know about that but you know horseshoe pitch you have to claim the actual pit or,
or, I think that was added the clay win inside when we did the park cleanup. When we did the park cleanup, I had to excavate all the sand out probably three hours in there. And then my father went the next day made sure that there was already clay inside the horseshoe pit so it wouldn't bounce. So my dad just mixed it up and put it back in so that does not need to be touched the sand inside because it already has clay and it's approved to not bounce.
Is that the one closer to the restroom?
I believe all, I hope to ask him but I believe all the sand was fixed.
Now there's I think there's three boards that are down so it's going to take more than just what's there now but at least they get one going and I don't know I think our staff put the fence back up and that should be an easy fix. And Fernando is with who?
He's with the Junior Giants.
Oh, where? From
Santa Maria? Yeah from Santa Maria. Okay good. Cynthia brought him over this afternoon but I was not available so... All right
and then just to follow up one of my first questions was if we had like a plan in place with not having a recreation manager or will a plan be shared with us as we move forward?
For the summer, which is probably the actual concern right giving kids somewhere to you know hang out and have fun. You know this
i'm sorry your point in.
Thank you.
So it's not live. Okay, I don't know how to do a live
show life so
but all for surely the email with the link. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Um, so with the plan for the summer. We're not going to cut anything that's like say Wednesday and Friday drop in kind of thing. And then if there's people here in city hall working, you know like they would come and play basketball and stuff like that. I mean that's not necessarily something that we intend to change.
But what I would encourage is some of these other agencies like the schools, the boys and girls club to be more proactive and get more involved with their community. You know because City Hall can absorb every activity. We don't have the staffing without the manpower we don't have the supervision. But we will try to keep things going the best we can. We have outdoor facilities here, we have outdoor facilities at O'Connell. So there is locations where people can participate in recreation.
I think as a city, we're gonna try to maintain the Junior Giants the best we can and have that our plan going forward. Because that's bringing structured activities to the city, which is probably what's really missing as far as participation out of club. So I would say that is our focus going forward but to say a week post the recreation manager do we have a direct plan in place to make sure that every kid is taken care of over the summer? We do not.
Go ahead.
Hopefully by the end of the month or within the next months, it would be great just to make sure that our recreation commission is up-to-date so they're not feeling left out or anything as we move along with this process.
You know according to the minutes they are updated in terms of what's going on. So if you've seen the minutes there's a continuing activities so I think they're aware what's going on but like the junior giants first of all the field is ready all you have to do is add people I don't know the numbers that were registered. I don't know if anybody has that. Okay, yeah.
But the field is ready. It's 99.9%. There's a couple other things we have to fix, but it's ready to... Bases are in, it's all leveled, all the dirt's in. Everything's clean and ready to go so... In fact people are actually using it now. They're out there playing and practicing, so that's good. You said that Little League's starting? Did you say
Lilig? The one for here, the Junior Giants.
For the Junior Giants. Yeah correct. That's supposed to...you know several months ago Arnufo couldn't go to San Francisco for the Ambassadors meeting and I emailed him to find out how to get a hold of that, the ambassadors because there are specific things that the Junior Giants requires For the coaching for the there's a list of like seven weeks of you have to do this.
And perhaps Fernando has that and be good to get information from him to see what's, you know what's going on so
yeah it's my understanding that um the Santa Maria like region or the Santa Maria Valley I guess is they did have somebody who had attended all those activities that the Giants had put on okay good
Perfect. I was just reached out by the commissioners for Guadalupe and sharing their concerns, and so that's why I bring that up because I did hear first-hand their concerns. And we previously had a joint meeting with them where they shared that they kind of felt out of the loop and they wanted to be more supportive. And so just want to make sure that we're supporting each other during this difficult time.
Yeah. You know if you could give them my phone number and email You know, they can connect with me and we can talk it out on the moment and see what kind of ideas they have versus. You know, trying to pass everything through you just just to make it to where if we can come up with something a little bit quicker and get these questions going to answer a little bit more practically than.
You know that ease transitions.
Yes, my last question. Would the commission meetings moving forward be canceled or are you going to continue to have them? And if you're not going to continue to help them, would you be okay with reaching out with them and having that conversation?
The intent is not to halt anything with the Recreation Commission. I think the city needs a recreation commission more than any other commission that we have going.
That would be more than happy to meet with him. With the commission, because Joe when I talked to Joe Harris, he was concerned about Wednesday volleyball. And I think he actually staffed it so there's a matter of you don't want to turn that away because there's quite a few people that play that in basketball. So it's a matter of like David said just organizing to see who could do what.
I think during this lapse that there's people that will come forward to help out. So is your dad still involved with the horseshoe?
Yeah, he's
still. Does he have a shovel?
Yeah, he took his own shovel. He felt really bad actually because he learned that I was out there for three hours with Mr. Navarro and another gentleman and he's like you should have told me I would have been there so the next day he went out there. I believe he spent two weekends trying to build back the dirt.
Well the thing about it in that instance it should have been a A plan of who's going to do what, when and then what the resources are. Like there's wood there that's already ready to be placed and that's not a hard thing to do so thank you dad. Any other questions? All right we'll go now to item eight the
director of public safety Thank you Mr. Mayor, Council, staff and our community members. Try to go down through this currently we're trying to update all the cameras in the parks some are not working and maybe that one here too yeah
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Oh, hey Shirley. She
can't hear
no.
Okay so we're still got some parks offline and we're still working on trying to get 1 system for the whole city hospital board meeting. We discussed as far as some of the new doctors that are coming online and I spoke with. The president, Susan, her last name. She's the president of the Marian hospital board. Thank you, and we're going to arrange for her to come down to Guadalupe to have lunch so we can discuss some other issues because we're looking at trying to put on a health and safety fair at Riverview. I already went down and spoke to someone there in the office, and I have a meeting with one from fire, one from police, so that we can put together what we think are some things they may need And then we'll also include them, and I want to try to bring some health officials from Marion.
So that's the reason we're meeting with the president here in Guadalupe having lunch. Also during the week met with Hancock President. We were in another board meeting and he wants come down to Guadalupe. I want to talk to him concerning some issues about getting some of our kids Uh, to the college and at least bringing some of the resources here in quad. Um, at an early age at our junior high level where it should be starting to kind of get our kids into that thought process a lot sooner than waiting for high school so he is looking forward to that I just got to set a date. So that he can come down and we'll. tour and talk about things here in Guadalupe. I was in a webinar this morning at six on the SAFER grant that is opening back up, and We have Barbara, who is our grant writer.
We have all the information we've applied before. That could be three years that we really don't have to pay for firefighters. That could help us because we just lost our one PCF. He's gone to the wildfires for the summer so we're going to have to look to try to fill. We got two potentials that we hope We can work out something to get them here. We had the Memorial Day event, and I'll leave that to the mayor to talk about as far as... I keep saying Sunday.
That was Monday. Okay. Days kind of flowing after a while. Really good event. It was... And Amelia was there and so forth. So if I'll leave that to you, if you don't mind just give an update.
Okay, perfect.
Attended the police officer memorial, and at the Santa Maria Police Department. Very good event we had all the way from from Lompoc different departments that were there so that was the as far as falling officer Memorial that we had their attended the I'm on the board of the new life canine program so we're in slow talking about How to get service animals to first responders and two veterans. The only thing that really kind of came out they I've never seen the commercial, everyone talks about the commercial have it's me and Debbie in there, and this has been very successful so I let them know if they want to do some more commercials, any commercials we're going to film in Guadalupe. So I says we need to get that put out in front.
Probation department as far as the budget work group, that was going good but they've had some, they're gonna have some deficits and at times that can affect some of our youth that are in that probation system for them to be able to get resources but I'm going to those monthly meetings to make sure that kids that are in our area are getting provided services that they really need.
Last week, I attended the Santa Maria Airport tabletop exercise with TSA Homeland Security we had Santa Maria Uh, FBI and everybody else very good tabletop. It's something that is mandatory on a regular basis and it was great to talk with the staff there we're in our 9th year of the contract That we sign public safety and the airport. And, you know, we've looked at approximately almost about 600 something thousand dollars in that's just revenue that has come our way but talking with our staff here there are some things that we need to clean up so that we make sure that is benefiting us to the best of our abilities if it's going to be a revenue generator Public safety, fire and police were going to be volunteering this Thursday at Boys & Girls Club at the mentoring event.
So they reached out to us to head down there we did this last year in conjunction with some of the Santa Maria people so it's really good when we have all our kids there and they'll be sanctioned off with an officer or a firefighter One police officer and one firefighter, they've been tasked with putting together a kids outreach event. I discussed it this weekend with them and they're really excited so it's more of just getting public safety out into the community and the community to really get to know us on a more kind of, well the last one before the serious note After June 12, I have a meeting in Montecito with donors regarding the Royal Theater and some projects. I talked with David about the opening and what are some of those things kind of looking like They have some kind of ideas that we want to put together.
So I'll be there, they're in the UK right now. I talked with them so they'll be back and will be meeting just to do preliminaries to see what is the possibilities. They're very much into seeing like what they can do here in Guadalupe. And so to kind of bring some of those resources up here I think would be very important I just finished up after this weekend.
Met with pretty much, met with all fire Personnel and met with pretty much all police personnel, sworn and non-sworn. I think it's very important regarding the budget if it's going to affect people then they need to be brought into the loop. I gave them as much information that I had to kind of share and what I was looking for them is for their input If I'm going to ask them to kind of have some of this burden, I think it's important for managers to be able to speak to all their employees and see what their input is. And then formulate something. So after that, I was able to put together a public safety contingency plan for the budgeting.
We kind of mapped out what our critical department needs were and what our deferred department needs are. And then we looked at where revenue can be brought in To be able to maybe to support some things and to hold off on something so it was very positive. And I think the employees, of course no one's happy with it but at least they're having a voice. And that way, at least when things do kind of fall they understand that they're going to fall behind this and we're all going ahead in the same direction. So it's important to get their input and feedback so finally finished that and also gave them the vision of what I see us moving forward to for the next fiscal year and the next two years after that.
As far as some of the things that they are looking for, what I think that we should be doing following from what the goals are that the council gave us a couple years back using that as the template so that way they stay focused on what the mission is and what direction we're going So with that, that's my report. Unless there's any questions.
Any questions
Chief? Thank you chief for the comment in regards to connecting with our community I think that's really important growing up in Guadalupe I didn't have that good relationship and I think that our children deserve that I want to also thank you for reaching out to Dr Walters. I think that's really an important conversation to be had. I've connected with the schools in regards to kind of this issue is how can we ensure our kids are going to higher education?
Some things they shared is that I have toured the Lompoc Valley, the Lompoc Hancock College and the Santa Maria one. I went to the public safety department. It was phenomenal everything they had and I think I even seen some action But seeing how they, this Hancock can expose our community to the different departments I think it's really important. After I worked at the Dune Center for 10 years I thought wow if I would have been exposed to this career earlier I would have been a biologist. So exposing our students that are
too late.
is really important. So if you can just share with Dr. Walters, if there's any way that we can bring that exposure down to our communities, get our parents exposed. Just as the mayor mentioned it's never too late. My partner is going back to Allan Hancock College and I'm really excited to support him. And so if we can expose students early on to what departments there is, the better.
And that, maybe that's some direction I can get from you guys here is they've always offered and got to be very straightforward is, you know it's easy for me to explain to go be a cop be a fireman, I want them to find other jobs. You know, I'm proud of what we do but you know there's other opportunities out there and if we can get them on field trips especially someone who might drive a bus that can volunteer their time to be able to take a group of young people to some of those campuses.
I think that'll be great.
I believe all third graders here in Guadalupe actually do, I don't know if it's called Week of Action or Bow Wow or something along those lines where they go to Hancock and explore. And they're with their teachers but I think it's a little step further than that because they can go expose but what does that conversation looks like with their parents and their parents telling them they can do that?
And that's the key part is getting the parents, because I did a talk there and I got to meet some of the faculty. And so they're kind of plugged in but that's the key component is the parents and some are either working or whatever but if I can find that tie-in so that we have not only the community help pushing our youth but then too when they get home. So we have 24 hour pushing them to the direction that they should go.
We'll work together on that. Thank you.
Did Mr. Walters talk about the continuing use of Senior Center for bridging the high school to college? Because they've rendered that before. Have you been in there, I guess you have. Yes but I did not see how that program worked Well, they actually had teachers come in
and... Oh that was a night school kind of thing.
Yeah exactly so the high school students went to the senior center and that whole room is set up for classroom. And there's no reason why that couldn't be for the younger elementary age kids also. So in the past we had a contract with them to be there.
Well, and I think that that's great. And so if anyone here has any of those please send me like an email so I can have bullets. So I said these are our things. And once I get that date down I'll make sure I sent it around. And that way if someone has opportunity to come And put something like into his ear, the more the merrier.
Well he's supportive of that so there's an actual MOU with us for the city and in Bangkok and a teacher so... That's great! More to follow. Okay
any other questions? Okay thank you Chief.
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Now we're going on to item nine, regular business discussion and direction regarding the proposed Guadalupe Harvest Festival at Jack O'Connell Park. Mr. Trujillo?
All right, Mr. Mayor, council members, community and staff. So this kind of came to fruition a couple months ago about trying to bring a festival to the city of Guadalupe A first kind of 1st off for the central coast. Um, a way to kind of bring people to the community that wouldn't normally come to the community. And bring something about that maybe people in the community would be interested in and what.
Austin and slow cow roots has kinda put together here so. The intent is to get some kind of direction on whether or not they should move forward, or they shouldn't. They're working with Good Vibes, a slow cow management company. Like real marketers that do this often, and they want to book real bands. Fans that have headlined areas like the Monterey Festival, Avila, different things like that. So they're in demand. So if we want to have something like this, they need to kind of get their marketing going.
This has a potential to bring 10, 12, 15,000 people here to the community over a weekend. It is a permitted event if it is to go through. Potential earnings for the city would be somewhere between 60 and $100,000 depending on tickets parking various things like that. I'm sure Austin will touch on it here shortly. They are aware that they will have to cover all overhead for any P. D fire, anything like that? Any overtime hours and security they've already gone through all this with chief about what the requirements would be.
And there is some planning going on, some discussions with Bill about whether or not it would be allowed. Would it not be allowed for our municipal code? Our municipal code doesn't really hit on it all too much. So we're following the state code. State code says it's okay. However, there may be other things that kind of get in the way. I think Phillip is doing some research on that.
But that's all I got. Austin is gonna come up, he's got a little PowerPoint and he's gonna give you about 10 minutes and then we will move on.
Let me, normally what should happen needs to happen is actually let people know what we're talking about, because a lot of people don't have our agenda. So I'm going to read what's what's going on. A confirm the city's willingness to move forward with the permitting process for the proposed Guadalupe Green Greens Festival at Jack O'Connell Park and be authorized event organizers to begin marketing and advance ticket sales while permit conditions are finalized. And C, direct staff to continue working with the event organizers to finalize operational requirements, fee structures, public safety measures and regulatory compliance prior to final permit approval or decline to move forward with the proposed festival. So I just want to lay that out so people know what we're talking about.
So Austin, it's yours.
Thank you Mayor. Council Members my name is Austin Canela. I'm the founder of Route One Presents and the managing member of Route One Dispensary our local dispensary here in Guadalupe. I am a Central Coast Native and I've been building businesses here for over two decades working alongside local government and local law enforcement but tonight i want to talk about building something bigger An event that I believe can put Guadalupe on the map and the way that this community deserves. Before I walk you through the presentation, I want to note that we've already completed full draft permit package including site plans operations plan parking plan security plans etc.
All that's on file with city staff, but we didn't come here with just a concept. We tried to come here with a plan. Go to the next slide. I also want to say that we have been working in a vacuum, we've been in close communication with city staff throughout this process and I'm very grateful for the support we received from everyone that we've worked with so far and from the community response that we've seen so far. I think it's clear that Guadalupe is ready for something like this.
So let me introduce the Guadalupe Greens Festival. It's two days, September 19th and 20th at Jack O'Connell Park up to 10,000 people a day an estimated 150 to 250 temporary local jobs as zero net cost of the city and go to the next slide. I'm going to talk about the venue one more slide there. Jack O'Connell Park is approximately 15 acres of flat, open, sensible land with existing infrastructure already in place. There's restrooms, ball courts, a covered barbecue pavilion and it sits naturally set back from most of the dense residential of town and because the proposed parking would sit at Highway 1 and West Main Street Corridor festival traffic would never touch residential streets I've looked at a lot of sites for festivals and this one works.
The boundaries work, the access works and the infrastructure works. It was kind of made for an event like this. You have the next one which is the site plan. This is just a working site plan drawn over the actual park footprint. It kinda gives you a sense of how each zone would relate. There'd be a main stage area, some food areas, a family area, a car show in the parking lot there And then there would be a cannabis village in the north corner, located on the ball field.
What you can see is physically separated from the main stage area if the site allows and that's kind of the close up on the right there shows that up there on the ball ball field. Is that the orange. The orange is actually the other ball for which would be staff parking. So the green with the kind of green diamond shape, that green diamond shape would be the consumption tent. So it would kind of focus consumption inside of a tent. That's actually a tent? Yeah.
It'd be a pull tent essentially. So it have open sides but a covered top. And then there's the cannabis vendors located within there. And then the red block in the top left, that would be where the cannabis sales took place all by Route 1 underneath Route 1's license and a DCC permit which we'll get into here in a second. But this is basically, you know the site plan still being refined and we'd continue to work through this throughout the permit process as public and staff feedback came in as well. So this would be an all ages event if you want to go to the next slide.
We'd have the main stage area, there would be two food zones. A kids area located and fenced in around the existing play structure, a car zone on the parking lot and a holistic village area on the basketball court which would be like massage and acupuncture or another type of holistic vendors. And those would all be open to every generation, except for this cannabis component which would be the only fully contained zone and completely separate from the rest of the event. The food program would prioritize Guadalupe restaurants and five city businesses. The car show is built around the Central Coast Lowrider culture and the event is designed to reflect the community it is in from the food to the music.
Go to the next slide. I'm on the talent. We are in active negotiations with headlining acts like Revolution, Kali Buds and Barrington Levy. We haven't been able to sign any contracts yet but I want to be straight with you. We need to have the city's authorization first before we can move forward with any of that because locking in talent at this level requires us to make some significant capital investments and we can't do that without knowing that the city is with us. That said these aren't cold calls these are established negotiations We're ready to pull the trigger on that. So Revolution is one of the nation's largest reggae acts, they started in Santa Barbara and they have a deeply loyal touring fan base on the West Coast so their audience travels and that matters for Guadalupe because those visitors would also be spending money here Good vibes presents our production partner has produced the Avila Beach Revolution show for the last 10 years, which we would be relocating here so there wouldn't be the revolution show in Avila this year it would be here in Guadalupe.
So it has a 10 year kind of running start at least of this headliner and this, the fan base here on the Central Coast. And other acts like Collie Buds and Barrington Levy would bring international credibility and strong positive messages with strong social media reach that would support our marketing efforts as well. So as David mentioned the names on this lineup would signal to the regional music community that this is a serious production.
The full lineup is being built out, but over 20 regional and local acts would would fill both stages go to the next slide. My production partner Good Vibes Presents is an experienced national festival company. I already mentioned the Avala shows, they've ran those for the last 10 years and they also do festivals like Hollow Hollow Fest and Cali Roots which was just this last weekend in Monterey so they would be replicating that same level of production infrastructure here Handling staging, logistics, vendor operations and day of coordinations.
They would work directly with our team, our harm reduction partners and Guadalupe PD as well. So I'd be bringing the compliance and the cannabis operations as well as the drain, and they would be bringing the production experience but together we are a professional operation with a track record in this exact market. Next slide. Safety and compliance, I know this is important and I want you guys to feel confident that we've been working. We'll continue to work with Chief Cash on this but we feel like we have a strong safety plan. The DCC compliant Cannabis Village would be operated by Route 1 under our existing Guadalupe operator permit and our state retail license so it wouldn't be a new operator asking for trust as we already have a working relationship with the city The village would be fully enclosed with opaque fencing on every side, you would not be able to see into it from the general festival area.
There will be a single staffed entry and a single staffed exit where age would be strictly enforced 21 and over with government issued IDs with no exceptions. There will most likely be a DCC compliance agent from the state on site throughout the event. Cannabis consumption would be limited to the designated cannabis consumption tent in the area within the perimeter of the Cannabis Village, so no cannabis product or signage would be visible from any family area or outside of the Cannabis Area and the village would close 30 minutes before the main stage each day.
We've begun to apply for the event organizer license with the state and the temporary event license would get filed with the DCC, no later than July 21 60 days before the event as required. Next slide. BSIS licensed security guards, there'll be 29 on Saturday, 25 on Sunday. Dedicated officers inside the Cannabis Village at all times. There will be overnight security with exterior coverage on Saturday in full coordination with Chief Cash and the Guadalupe Fire Department and EMS throughout the event.
For medical and harm reduction, we would be either working with the Guardian team out of Santa Barbara or JobMed. Both are professional harm-reduction organizations with proven festival records. Whichever partner we finalize would bring things like Narcan, fentanyl test strips, drink test kits, wellness checkpoints, a sanctuary space and an ambulance on site both days.
The Guardians track team record includes Sultopia in Santa Barbara this year with over 11,000 attendees With zero overdose fatalities. Next slide. Parking, this has been a concern and I want to address it head on. We are proposing that the public parking would be at the Highway 1 and West Main Street Corridor on the Pasadena commercial development lots essentially. We've received initial verbal Okay from the developer who's going to be working with the landowners to get a full authorization, but that is the natural entry point into Guadalupe where all three main travel corridors converge. So attendees would park at the edge of town and take the free shuttle straight to the park to try to avoid festival traffic on residential streets So combined capacity across those lots that's approximately 2800 vehicles, after surface preparation and our Saturday peak parking demand using standard transportation mythology comes out to about 2700 vehicles so we have a little bit of a positive surplus on the busiest day.
There would be a shuttle fleet on Saturday, would be 10 coaches running in a continuous loop with about 1750 riders per hour. And we'd also coordinate with Amtrak specific surf liner stop here in Guadalupe Bay, which will hopefully keep a portion of attendees off the road entirely. But all parking and shuttle costs will be paid for by the event with zero cost to the city.
Next slide. Now the financial picture, what's in it for the city? Go ahead to the next slide. We're proposing some direct revenue to the city. We're projecting approximately somewhere around $60,000-$73,000 that would come from a $4 per ticket per day contribution So $2 per ticket per day would go to a park improvement fund, and $2 per ticket per day would go to the city's general fund.
In addition to that there would be additional alcohol sales tax, the 4% cannabis contribution from our existing cannabis business agreement with the city on top of food merch sales tax and other permit fees. But every city operational costs from police, fire staff time would be billed at cost directly to us. The city wouldn't absorb a dollar of that. So there would be a net financial gain to the city of approximately 70 to $90,000 when you factor in the community benefit that we're also proposing which would be 50% of the food vendor fees Go to Guadalupe nonprofits. By our estimates of probably 20 to $25,000, which will go to local organizations and we're inviting the city to participate in choosing which ones receive it.
Go ahead the next slide would be. Those are the direct numbers that indirect. impact would be is a little bit harder to nail down but it matters for Guadalupe's long-term story. So if we'll go one more slide, one more. We're looking at roughly 11,000 to 14,000 total attendees over the weekend that's a meaningful share of those people are coming in from outside of the immediate area They will stop for gas, they will eat before and after the show. They will stay in Santa Maria or the five cities areas. Although there are no hotels in Guadalupe but there are spending that will happen here and the surrounding area that would not happen otherwise. Research on comparable festivals puts the regional economic multiplier at roughly $3 to $5 for every dollar of ticket revenue applied here that somewhere in the range of 500,000 to well over a million dollars flowing into the region.
Those are estimates, not guarantees but they are based on real benchmarks. But the bigger long-term play is what this does for Guadalupe's identity. A strong year one puts the city on the Central Coast Festival map. The reputation will compound, the event will grow and every year it comes back it will bring more visibility and more regional spend with it. Next slide.
Four things that protect the city completely. One is all operational costs are billed to us to our existing cannabis business agreement already governs the cannabis contribution 4% to the city and 1% to nonprofits. Three, full event insurance naming Guadalupe as additionally insured with a minimum $5 million per occurrence. And four the finance director would have full audit rights on ticketing records and we would deliver a reconciliation report within 30 days of the event.
Essentially we're asking to be your partner and asking, you know not asking you to take a risk by 20 so what we're asking tonight. And I know it's not necessarily full permit approval, and that we're not there yet but we want to respect the process however that plays out. But tonight we would like to confirm that the city is willing to move forward with the permitting process And that would be a green light to us to begin to form formalize everything with the, with the talent and everyone else.
So to also off authorize us to begin marketing and advanced ticket sales while we finalized permit conditions with staff. This is time sensitive talent negotiations vendor commitments marketing timelines. We need to be able to make the capital investment to lock all this in. And that can't really happen without your guys's approval tonight. So, three I'd also like to schedule a follow up working sessions with planning police fire and administration to finalize everything every fee every operational detail before any permanent issue.
We'd also like to bring this back before council once a month from here on out, and then maybe meeting twice a month for the two months leading up to the event just to give the Council updates and adapt to public input. So you'll always know where the festival stands and what we're working on. But if you can give us the green light to begin everything else would get worked out collaboratively with staff and you as a Council as it progresses.
Go to the last slide. Guadalupe is a city with a lot of character and not enough events to show it off. This festival is built to change that. It's locally owned, it's locally rooted with real protection for the community and real money staying here. We have the team, the plan and the commitment we just need the partnership so thank you and I'm happy to answer any questions.
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Thank you for your detail. We'll open up the council Jane, anybody? Go ahead.
Austin I really would like to have had this information prior to tonight to make a decision to say go forward or not go forward but absent all of that and listening to your quick presentation today I like the idea of having a festival and having the potential of having outside people come into our community. And all of that, the wellness factor and et cetera, et cetera. And this is going to be weird saying this because of who you are and the fact you have Route 1 here.
I like all of it absent cannabis. I think the city does need a festival, and again you've laid out with the band. I think that's really great. Other cities have festivals that we go to. We leave the city to go there so it would be nice to have people come here. I like the idea of Pasadena and the shuttle and all of that, and you clearly put a lot of thought into this.
And I asked when you first started talking about this with the city.
Um, I had initial conversations maybe four to six months ago with the city that this was something that could possibly, you know, It's been a while since I've had the opportunity to be wanted and be needed here. And, um, I began to have conversations with people in my network and, um. I'd say about three months ago as when good vibes kind of circled back to me and said, you know, this would, this would be a good thing. And we'd like to move our avalanche show down there and work with you.
Okay.
Christina was talking to Council Member Hernandez, sorry. Was talking about recreation and doing things for the kids and the mayor has quoted numerous times is it 30 or 35% of our residents are 18 and under thereabouts? So that's a decent chunk of our population here. Having a festival with even the controlled cannabis tent and whatever you call that That still doesn't bring me to the point of saying, yeah let's go ahead.
So if we were to vote on this today and I'm assuming we are, I would have to say no just because that little bit again which is ironic because you're having a cannabis retail store here so
Thank you, Austin for sharing this. I also would have liked to have had this form beforehand. I think my only issue is just that we have a policy of no smoking here that was adopted recently but i did have a question are your application event are you getting that from the Department of Cannabis Control?
Yeah, so the Department of Cannabis Control actually allows events of this type. We would have a event organizer license which is a separate license from the retailer license but it also needs to work in conjunction with a retailer license. So only licensed retailers are allowed to do sales at the licensed event and only a licensed event organizer is allowed Hold the event. So route one would be both the licensed event organizer and the retailer, and then the event itself would need to be permitted through the DCC so the site plans the layout the days, the dates, the times everything goes through a strict approval process with the DCS fee as well. And they do have a lot of protections in place for the public as far as you know no visibility Distance separation ID checks security requirements, etc.
And while there hasn't been too many of these events off California they are becoming more common. Just this last year on the state fairgrounds in Sacramento at the California State Fair. Had a cannabis village and had a cannabis consumption in cannabis sales area at the state fair, just like we hold here in Paso. So I think there's some models and there are some examples of these events working with at all ages events where you have families and you have the general public but you have a controlled regulated and safe cannabis area as well. It's also been done in Golden Gate Park Music festivals there that are all ages, some in LA and some of Santa Rosa as well.
I did look up, I did do a research and I did look up the county fair. And I think the only concern with me is just because this is such a close proximity to the park I understand that you have barriers, but we are known for our dunes because of that, that gnarly wind while I was looking at the application Can you help me better understand some of their permitting I looked up the application on the website and it says that there is no sales of alcohol or tobacco strictly prohibited at a temporary cannabis event.
Correct, so the premise diagram for the cannabis and the alcohol... So you can't have alcohol sales within the cannabis premises basically, so there would be no alcohol allowed on the ball field. So there would be alcohol checks at the gate, the entry points as well. So no alcohol sales, no alcohol consumption, no tobacco sales or tobacco consumption either inside the cannabis
zone.
It's a separate premises so basically it's an event within the other event and inside that other event that there is no alcohol allowed.
Okay thank you for clarifying. Jean any comments?
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Like my fellow council members said, this would have been good to have for our residents to kind of see more or less what you had planned out. I understand where my fellow council members are coming from but at the same time I look at it as an opportunity for our city to have something where people will come join, enjoy the festival and whatnot. But also being able to spend money with some of our merchants restaurants here in town. It looks like you've done a lot Schooling on this to get it. You've talked with our city workers, you've talked with chief, you know, ironing out details and all.
Not knowing how one of these ever goes but to see how you have a section dedicated strictly to the cannabis sales and stuff away from everything else bringing in I would be okay with going forward with this just because I see this as an opportunity, but also understand where residents and my fellow members come from looking at it from the other perspective.
But a lot of times we do is we look at only the negative impact on what something has and not looking at what positive can come from it. And I can see this as being a positive for our city with something like this to bring in maybe some other festivals that aren't to deal with cannabis, but to open the door for those venues to look at how it went. A blueprint of what can be for us here so.
I like how everything was planned out, but I just wish we would have got this piece sooner So our residents who saw this on there could have looked more into it to kind of understand, but yeah. Understandable.
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and just do what you said. Gene back to Yeah I agree that we have a deficit revenues revenue, I understand that. I just lost my train of thought. Hang on, give me a minute. Don't make a comment about why. Oh geez. Oh, Gene was talking about having our... We may look at the negatives and we should look at some of the positives and so forth. I would think that the city has not had a festival to my understanding. I don't think the city has ever-
Harvest Festival.
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vegetables. But in terms of an overall festival with bands and all that type of thing I think the first one that we should have should be absent the cannabis for the community to just have their first taste at that. I know what you're talking about, the... I was here, the vegetable? Yes. Oh yeah. Right. Yeah, I was here. Were they bowled with cabbage? Okay. Yeah. Salad bowl festival. Salad bowl, thank you!
Okay, so I agree with what you're saying that whether we say anything that brings in revenue should be good to the city. There should be some qualifying statements with that. A festival yes, I will repeat a festival yes. Even if we had a regular festival, we still will get negative comments from residents whatever noise is too loud and all things like that. I think this is it has a bit too much.
lack of a better word negativity around it that residents will look at again strictly because of the cannabis. My, my opinion
only. I think previously we did have a small mini festival for Fourth of July, we had a concert at McKinsey and I believe like Dominator came, I was young so I thought that was a big concert. Um, but I do have a question for Mr Cinco. Is this something that the city should consider for future establishing like a staffing permit or special event permit? I know that chief has spent some time already on this, but I don't see that on the fiscal impact and wondering if we should have like a standard for future large scale events if that's what that's what council is hoping to
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Yes, I've spoken with our director of planning. Yeah, Director of Planning Larry Apple on this topic before there's been a couple of times we've had need of a special events permit and we've just, you know, done this process by coming to the council directly. And I've spoken with Bill Scott about the wisdom of that, he agrees. And it is something that I'm pretty sure they're going to move forward on as a separate ordinance, a standalone special events ordinance. Santa Maria has one and Mr. Appel was aware of that. It came in handy. They had circuses would come into town and we would use the special events permit process, temporary use permit. So yes, there's wisdom in that and staff is aware that there's a need for it.
Okay, perfect. And I know that we previously adopted a no smoking policy how does that work hand in hand with this event?
I was looking at that while the rest of the meeting was going on earlier because I had a feeling that would come up. The park policy. I looked at it and it does say there's no smoking tobacco marijuana and you know that in a public park, but it also says there's no alcohol allowed in parks or in certain public places except permits can be granted to override that. So I imagine if the council wanted to interpret its ordinance in a way that consumption smoking of marijuana and a cannabis village was something that could be legally done with a special events permit and if we had a special events ordinance that would answer that question I think that the council could proceed legally on that because I think that the law, the spirit of that law is to prevent individuals from occupying the park that's open to everybody and smoking cigarettes or marijuana.
It's not really intended to apply to a special events permit with a festival and permitting in a separate cannabis area so I think there's wiggle room For the for the council to attack if it wishes, but it's a little bit of a gray area right now.
OK thank you. I know that there is like a 2%. Financial help or parts? But does that mean because I'm looking at parking and it's kind of in that dirt law and I'm like oh no, I've seen people get stuck in the baseball fields not does heavy damage to our parks and I want
So it's not 2%, it's $2 per ticket. Okay, so it could be drastically more than 2%.
But that's not to cover cost damage that's to support other parks is that correct?
No, that would be for essentially to return the park to the condition it was in before the event.
Okay. No, we would return the park to the condition before it was before the event on at our cost and that $2 would go to future park improvements with our goal even better. We want to try to we want to try to make the park better each year with this event in the parking that's proposed for staff parking is right now is the unused base baseball diamond and it's pretty overgrown Some actual site improvement to even get it ready for parking.
So this first year I'd probably be left closer to a usable state than it is currently right now in the overgrown kind of ungraded.
And that's kind of the same thing along, I think that's what they told you at Pasadena as well right? Yeah
we would do pre-grading and site prep there as well to make sure that And you know, first year I think that money could go into the big green field maybe and to go for issues. There's plenty of needs there so we see this as an opportunity. And I do understand the concerns over cannabis and maybe we can separate the music and the cannabis now and leave that for future discussion and public input as we get closer.
There's a thank you constant for comments and discussions and I in I've talked to Austin about this before that there was something coming forward. And it did come forward, and it's huge. I just wanted one one item I wanted to make sure that we had there's two public comments uh opposing this and one is from a i'm not even going to name the name but anyway they're talking about reputation talking about public safety talking about police toxic talking about intoxicated driving talking about normalizing cannabis um our youth the other one that was one was from The tobacco prevention and cannabis education, which we've been trying to push in terms of for the kids and stuff. This kind of sends an opposite message that it's okay to go ahead and have an event in a community like Guadalupe When we've been pushing and so has the schools, you know, tobacco prevention and cannabis education.
Several things one is when is the 16th of September? When is that going to happen? Is that going to be the 15th or 14th there a week before? Okay, you know one of the things Looking at our community is 86% Latino. 90% of the people that are going to be coming in aren't Latino, which is fine. I don't care what nationality they are but when you have 6500 people coming at it... You know you mentioned 11-14 thousand people in that two day event. Our population is 8700 so basically there's more people Coming into this, and there is population.
Your map shows Calle Cesar Chavez which may be renamed in the future. That's all residential area and every sound that comes from this event here is gonna go through all of Guadalupe. You can play, and Chief knows about this, you play music down at Point Saldunas everybody's gonna hear it all the way to Patricia Park My concern is the impact that it has on our residents in that area and in the perception of using cannabis as a draw to a community like Guadalupe. I don't have any problems in those who consume cannabis, that's not a problem, it's legal but I think this event is too huge for Guadalupe One is that, and I spent a lot of time at that park. And looking at the right where you have that tent there's they'd be nice to have you there cause you'd kill the gophers because there's a lot of gophers here but the park is a park for a community.
We had several weeks ago or several months ago we had an event just at the basket that little purple area on your map, that basketball court Just basketball there, there was no parking. And I know you have plans for parking elsewhere. You know we talk about there's going to be a lot of staffing police protection stuff like that at this point In our time in terms of, and we're gonna talk about the budget soon is I don't think we can handle it. Even though there's going to be money for that, it's just too much too soon for a community like Guadalupe. And it sends a message that says, okay, it's to me and I think I'll echo what Amelia says.
It's okay to use cannabis when you're trying The youngsters, those that are underage not to use it and they do use it. And I have a, I'm not going to say who, I won't even go there but there's too much youth consumption of tobacco illegally. It's not your fault, it's not the community in general's fault, maybe the parents or the kids but I think first of all is too big for Guadalupe. That's my opinion, it was too soon To actually say, okay go ahead and go ahead and plan this up because you put a lot of detail into this.
You have a lot of folks that are ready to basically sign on perhaps but I think that if we say let's go with it and then regret it, it's going to hurt our community in terms of You know, we're a farm worker community and you know that. Just what does that say to a community that we allow this? And again it's just too big I think if it was smaller and is more confined to a certain area That didn't take up all the room. You're going to have all the traffic that you're going to have between Pasadena and Guadalupe on a Saturday and a Sunday, I'm assuming it's a Saturday and Sunday.
It's gonna be even though there's gonna be transit for them it's still going to be people have to get there and leave and that's going to hit Highway 1 and 166 pretty heavily I think just bottom line, it says to the community we're okay to have, and I think I echo what Mr. Hager is saying that it's okay if we say yes to cannabis then that drives to the kids while adults are doing it then why shouldn't we be able to do it although they know it's illegal?
But at this point, I would say I would decline that. I know that I am supportive of what you're doing there in the businesses you got and I think it's helpful for the community but it's just too big for us at this point. Maybe in the future when we can work out some of the details than if it were smaller and I know you have some big ticket players that are coming to that, that's gonna draw those individuals And in order to make a go of it, you have to have those people.
So there's that Catch-22. You can have the group but then it impacts community more than physically but in terms of where we stand with cannabis. Again, it's legal, but it sends a different message. So my opinion is not to decline and move forward because if we say go and then we end up Perhaps changing our mind, but we're not going to change your mind if we say go.
Because then we're going to work on the details, but I think. We were looking at finances for next year 2627 and I think that we need to be cautious in terms of what we. What we say to you that would perhaps impact us on a financial side even though there's numbers here to say that's not going to it's going to be positive for us so please.
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One of the reasons I asked the question how early on did you bring this to the city's attention is because you have put an awful lot of work into this already and it sort of seems as though you're just waiting for the yes and you sign, and it's a go. And my comment is for future Events, festivals, whatever. I think it's critical to have the council brought into it even if it's a very rough idea prior to the event coordinator putting a lot of work into it then bringing it to the council and all this work has been already dealt with players have already been talked to etc And then it's up to the council to say yay or nay. So, um, it's a shame that this was not brought early on in the game.
Jean, anything? You good? Christina?
Um, nothing else to add. No public comment. I want to make sure- Well
here was the public comment.
Okay. Just making sure I've seen somebody in there.
Yeah and it's also part of the record so... Um. If we is there you can correct me if I'm wrong, Phil. If there's a motion to adopt A B and C. We could look at that as in terms of moving forward with it. And if the motion if there was somebody that made that motion to move forward with that A B and C would basically direct staff to continue working. Which is declined to move forward with the proposed festival?
Correct. Okay, it's either A B C or D okay. Is there a motion to approve A B and C?
I'll motion to approve A B or C.
Is there a second? I think the motion dies for lack of a second. Is there a motion to approve item D?
I'll make a motion to approve item D, to decline and move forward with the proposed festival.
Is there a second?
I'll second.
There's a second. Any discussion? Roll call please.
Roll-call vote Passed 3–1 move forward with the proposed festival. Is there a second? I'll second. There's a second. Any discussion? Roll call
Show transcript
The motion passes to decline, to move forward with the proposed festival. Appreciate your time Thank you. And I know you had a schedule to deal with in terms of booking his agent, so I appreciate that. Thank you for your feedback. Thank you. Thank you staff for working on this also. Okay we'll go to... Is there a need for a biological break? Anybody? What? Two minute break.
Okay okay five-minute break.
Thank you. The 10 City of Guadalupe community draft budget for the 2026-27 workshop. Mr. Martinez, you're on.
Yes, sir. Good evening Mr Mayor Council members staff members of the public. As you know this is the preliminary budget discussion. Just a couple things I want to say just off the bat one, this is based on audited and preliminary information. As you know, we're working on the audits right now and we're currently on 2022-2023 and closing those books. We're also just as a high level directional note, we are looking for direction on how to close the deficit because we are in a budget deficit at this point in time.
The focus of today's discussion is really just the general fund and not the enterprise funds, so just the general fund. So I'm gonna jump right in and maybe the best format for this is, maybe stop me for questions or hold questions at the end. But there is a lot of information that went to you. And if it helps for anybody who is watching and has the information, maybe just I'll give you a brief overview of how to read the report.
And then maybe I'll jump into about that. So if you can just jump to the budget worksheet condensed, that's what it's titled, it should be... If this was numbered correctly would be page seven And you can see, you can see report sort of a tabular format here on the left hand side you have the name of the fund this is for funds those are one the general fund. We're going to start off with the revenues.
We're going to start off, like reading from left to right. You have the phone numbers you have what fund it is in relation to. And then it goes, you know, in every column is talking about a different year, a different fiscal year so 2023 2024 and the total activity that happened in that year for for those funds. You know, following that to the right 2425 total activity 2526 is the next column. And then you have 2526 year to date activity so the column to the left of that is the budget what we budgeted in 2526 and what we've actually expended year to date 2526.
And then what you have on the furthest right hand column is what we're proposing, or at least the preliminary budget for 2627. And you can kind of see from looking at what the budget was in 2526 that's column number three right in the middle and you compare it to column, the last column it'll tell you how that's changing so you can kind of see how that's changing.
So, that's just a brief overview for those anybody who's watching that might not know how to read the report. But just again just diving right into this the high level overview we're bringing in $6 million in total revenues that's taxes for the city. From all places that the city can tax on, that includes fines, that includes property taxes. Any revenue that the city brings in is adding up to a total of $6 million.
To contrast that, the city's looking at spending $8.9 million. So you have a $2.9 million deficit That's a big hole that we need to figure out how to plug. Another way to look at that is, we're spending 49% more than the total revenue, then we're bringing it in total revenues. That's a lot. And so again, think about just per perspective we're bringing in $6 million revenues.
We are spending $3 million almost more than the amount of revenues that we're bringing in. So that's a lot of money. Some key assumptions just as, as you think about you know how we put this together the budget. And some of the driving factors in terms of how the budget became me, you know what it is and how we got to the $2.9 million deficit. Number one CalPERS rates fortunately for us are going down very, very, very slightly point .3%.
Next year is what they're forecasting. To contrast with that, medical costs are actually forecasted to go up. We're baking in 12% increase on top of that there's a $1,200 premium increase on... That the city has to pay per employee and so the medical benefits are going up substantially. So you'll see that across the board. It's also baking in step increases for staff and COLAs at their negotiated rates Moving into the biggest pieces driving the revenues.
And, you know again I'm, I'm paraphrasing this, this thick report so you're not necessarily going to be able to follow this line by line but, but again I think I expect this is gonna there's gonna be some questions as well. So the biggest piece is driving this in terms of the revenues is you have $4.7 million in taxes. The next biggest piece in revenues is cannabis, and that's about $225,000 in taxes. And then the next biggest piece is $183,000 in building and planning permits. So there's going to be some revenue subtractions I think in past years what we've done is we've had a big transfer, a couple big transfers from the enterprise funds to sort of compensate the city general fund for, you know, the usage of the staff to run those those enterprises that from the general fund.
Cost allocations from the general fund. We're going to do things a little differently going forward or the enterprise funds are going to be charged directly for staffing, so there's never, there's not going to be a separate charge. So it's not that the general fund isn't being compensated is just that the costs are not hitting the general fun altogether anymore.
And that's, that's methodology that is recommended by GASB. So moving into the expenses and looking at, maybe at this point I'll draw your attention to the first page of the memo and if you look at that colorful pie chart right on the first page I think that'll be helpful to sort of follow along that. And it's very easy to see where the bulk of the costs are for the city, the biggest, the biggest piece is obviously the police costs and fire that 63% of the budget.
Is basically safety. Another way to look at that and if you want to look at that sort of in, in dollars. That's 5.6 million of the 8.9 million in expenditures is going just a safety big pieces in terms of safety expenditures. You have over time, you've got a different staff, you have different staffing levels you have disabilities. And so overtime just for PD next year is forecasted at $380,000 and then fire at 281,000.
You'll also see liability insurance for the police department go up. I think in past years the allocation methodology wasn't necessarily what Best practice I think they were, there was a charge coming from although the general fund is paying for it. Now this is going to reflect that the majority of the liability insurance is actually earmarked against PD because they have the highest salary levels and that's how you're supposed to allocate those.
There's also a big change this year with respect to dispatcher services. There's a Santa Maria, and you know, chief can might be able to add to this is going to charge us $250,000. More, or in addition to what they're charging us next year so that'll be an increase to the budget on the PD side. So there's some big expenditures that are really impacting the budget on that side.
The other piece of the pie, and this is sort of the interesting part that you can kind of look at this in a couple different ways. 37% of the rest of the budget that's not safety is really city operations and administration that's $3.3 million. So again I want to maybe just have you think again about the deficit So, to put this in perspective. If we were to eliminate every other and not that say that you're going to do this by the way but just to put things in perspective.
Even if we were to have a conversation of eliminating every other city activity except for safety, we would still, they would still leave the city in a 12% deficit. In other words, we would still be in the $720,000 a year deficit for the city and we would only have fire and PD. Let me say this in different way because I think it's, I just want to make sure that we understand what is in front of us.
If we took all the city revenue of six million dollars And we netted out the safety costs at $5.6 million, you would only have $400,000 to run the city. So I hope that makes it very clear in terms of what it is, the levers that we have. I think generally speaking, we need to maybe think about the things that we can change and the things that we can't change.
Just anecdotally, I had a professor when I was working on my MBA He was a turnaround expert. He would go around and help organizations turn around their finances, and he said you know the biggest issue that I have when i'm giving advice to boards and councils etc., he says is that they tend to focus on The smallest slice of the pie, and figuring out ways how to cut costs in the smallest piece of the pie to solve a very big hole.
And he said that was typically the political sort of attraction to it but it would never get him anywhere. And he always, you know, he always said look when things change was when they focused on making smaller changes or relevant changes in the bigger pieces of the pie. And that's when it actually made an impact and so I just put that out there for food for thought. I think some of the challenges and some of the maybe on a go forward basis what we need out of this discussion is we need direction on again closing the gap We're spending more than we're making as a city. And, you know, we're behind three years on audits. We have system wide reconciliation of the books.
So I think there was Conceptually, that we had a reserve. I can tell you right now that, you know, I pulled up the balance sheet there is no reserve. The reserve was long gone and so I think that's another thing that just keep that in the back of your head there is no reserve and potentially that number could increase or decrease it depends there's a lot of moving pieces here as they clean up the books as well as the books are cleaned up over the next few years Either we become, we have a negative reserve which is basically what that really means if we have a negative reserve is that the city general fund is expending dollars that they don't have anymore. So that's again significant there and I said this in my first presentation to the council There's a potential liquidity, there's potential liquidity concerns that we need to work very hard to avert.
And I've been working very closely with David on this front. We've put a lot of thought in terms of the projects how we're gonna continue those. The next thing in terms of my priority list to figure out is to get a really good beat on our liquidity for the city. How we're spending our cash and when we're spending it when it's coming in And when it's going out.
Because without that, we're not gonna know what we can pay and when we can pay it. And so I think we're at that point where we really... We're sort of at a crossroads where we can make a positive impact in how we move forward and we can sorta change for the better or potentially not for the better on that front. Just long story short, I would say ultimately either costs need to be cut We need to find a way to increase revenues, assume no reserves and or do all of the above. Cut costs, increase revenues, assume no reserves. So with that maybe I'll just stop for questions. I'm sure you read the report. If you have questions, I'm happy to address questions on them.
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Yeah when I first got this we've talked a little bit about it in terms of especially with the grants that we have. You know we have the Royal Theater, Las Mujeres, we've got the train. We've got other projects and a lot of that just like I mentioned before that when we did Leroy Park, we used about $750,000 from the land money that we had when we sold five acres to Pasadena which helped us pay first and then get reimbursed from the state And that money doesn't come real quick. And I know that lately, I've been signing a bunch of requests for reimbursement from different entities and big money that we put out and then we're expecting that return. So I know that if you don't have it in your bank, you can't move forward with that. You can't finish the project if there's not any money to pay for what's going on in construction.
So really need to dig deep where we are with all reimbursements. And I know you're doing that and trying to figure out who we need to submit, you know, request for payment too. That's a task and I know that is Annette still working with y'all or she...
Generally speaking yes she has a certain amount of hours that she can work. She's done for this fiscal year the plan is to have her start again on July 1st
Okay,
if she's willing to come back.
All right. Well I think what happens is that it's like you know an engine in the car that all these pieces are broken. What do we fix first? You get a new block, you get new heads so what we're looking at is an engine that needs to be fixed and The block is the biggest cost for a car, and we're looking at some big expenses here with public safety. First of all you can't do away with everything else other than administration finance that like you mentioned if we paid just that we wouldn't have anything else to... We wouldn't have any departments other than police and fire. That doesn't work so Now, have you been talking with department heads in terms of input yet or have you?
Yeah maybe I can just talk about on that note. I can talk about the process to get to here. We did sit down with the department heads and go through the budget line by line and talk about just sort of framing it as we're in a budget deficit. We have to think about what we need and what's a need and what's a want
Yeah,
right. And so I think that was the narrative. I know that you know I sat with David after we sat down with the departments and you know we sharpened pencil even though even more. But I think at this point where we're at the point where we need sort of the council to say. Look, maybe we don't need x y&z. Or maybe we can you know think about this other kind of revenue over here that I don't know what that would be but but you know i mean there's only so many places you can actually bring in true revenue to the city and you know one of those true revenues is taxes and yeah so and that's a heavy word.
Yeah. You know, it's probably been a while since we've actually been able to get a very thorough well-done financial outlook for the city. It's very... For me I feel like it's very heartbreaking to find out the trouble that we're actually in. I think you know we've been operating under this facade that we had money yeah we had a reserve you know I think last year this time we had a three million dollar reserve How obviously it doesn't, it doesn't math right? You know so I think there's been some stuff that has gone very bad and we need to find ways to fix it.
And it's very difficult to get any kind of economic boom here. Because we do have the lower population until Pasadena, the north side of Pasadena starts developing. The entrance to the city isn't looking super amazing. And, you know we have some things that we had to work out and be schedules and are permitting processes and super streamlined like developers would like and you know business owners want whenever they come into a city. But there's all things that we can fix. That's fairly easy.
You know it's the long term development. You know, that's going to take time. And when we look at what we're spending, you know, to overtake a $3 million deficit at $300,000 a year, you know, you're still looking at a 10-year plan, right? So I mean nothing is going to come quick but we need to start making Strategic modifications, but I think some of that direction does have to come from you guys. Because we can sit around the water cooler and come up with plans and ideas that. That we feel are going to be productive and show some kind of, you know. ROI in the end, but, um.
We still have to have you guys on board, and right now the way this budget looks is you guys have to make some serious cuts. Because if we start making cuts it's going to be the kind of cuts that nobody wants to see because it's gonna have the fastest impact and we need what you guys would like to see in your strategic long-term action plan Um, things that right now the way this budget is looking. Things that are on the city's priority list are probably not going to be able to be attacked. Not quickly and probably not within a time frame that the city would like to see those. Those are probably gonna be rolled out a little bit longer so that we can start catching up on this.
You know, we're getting our books audited were still 4 years behind. And we don't know what that's going to show. We know what we have in the bank and best case scenario, we find some checks that we didn't cash worst case scenario, we're gonna find out that we owe more money you know so we have to plan for the worse still um and You know myself and Eli chief we can only put Humpty together so much before we need Somebody to come in and be like, hey that's not an ear. So whatever guidance you guys wanna offer maybe you can't even offer guidance tonight. Maybe it's something that has to be thought about but we are facing some pretty strong turmoil and we're gonna have to dig deep and long.
I think with that is that we need to look at the actual Sections that we need to look at in terms of where do we, do we move forward or we do we cut here or do we. What is our if we don't have that schematic in terms of where's it that that is, is, were we bleeding. Where are we in when I know revenue is an issue because almost every Almost a whole bunch of cities, revenue is an issue. But we need to look at if it's the police department, if its finance, if its fire department whatever those are the two biggest police and fire are the two biggest ones so we need to look at how that's going to what do we need to do to make sure that like Eli was saying don't go after the small stuff because that isn't gonna help you need to You know, those are the to me glaring issues.
That's where the biggest money is going so how do we deal with that? Then pare it down but we need to see the specifics in terms of what are we talking about? Are we talking about cars? We're talking about you know salaries? Are we talking about overtime? So if we had that information then we could actually put our foot to the metal. Please,
sort of in line with what you're saying. David, you said the department heads could talk around the water cooling and come up with whatever but I think that's important ties into what you're saying. What I envision right now is what are the projects that we gotta have, and for whatever reason. We must have this, we must have that water department, we must have treatment plant, we must have et cetera.
And the staffing involved with that. We currently have X at the water treatment do we need X? Et cetera, et cetera, that type of thing. And then we can look at it and Chief you said In your report that you have kind of done this. Did it sound that way? But yeah, we would need to look at all the different departments and then get your input as opposed to our saying You know, just flipping through here and saying well this looks like it's a big number let's cut that. This looks like a small number I guess it's okay you know that kind of thing. I don't have the knowledge to do that. I don't. But with your input for department, I think we can make a reasonably intelligent decision to direct you on how to go forward on this.
You know, you talked about projects. You know we've got potentially Leroy with that this was a 1.7 million for the new building or the expansion where we're still dealing with issues with Royal Theatre in terms of the costs that we need to finish that The railroad, the train station. There's a lot of projects out there that we need to you know do we need to slow those down? Do we need to say okay let's let's defer that even if we lose it if it's going to hurt if it's going to physically financially impact us then we need Guadalupe is the bad part. The good part is we get grants and we get, you know...
And the bad part is that we need money to front them. I shared with Amelia when I went to... In a newspaper it was talking about Buellton and in the newspaper it showed us a breakdown of the Santa Barbara County, the tax per capita per city I don't know if you folks have seen it. It's in the, it's not Newshawk but it's one of the papers and Buelton was highlighted in that and per capita they get $706 per capita And I talked to David Silva, who's the mayor. And they have a budget of something like 12 or 13 million and 15 staff members.
So that's... You know, I think the sheriffs deal with them but they get because they have a lot of... And I talked about earlier, they have a lot of businesses there. They have money coming in at the tax dollar. They have the TOTs, transit tax. So they get $706 per person. They're ranked 27 in the county? Let's see, no. There's 540 agencies, cities and counties.
And they rank 27 on one of the tops. Caltrans has $391 a person. And then it goes Santa Maria, it goes unincorporated Santa Barbara County. We get $66 a person. And that's not a lot of money. I know that I was talking with Craig Smith in terms of the issues that they're going through now with the railroad, trying to get permission to... They have to go underground for the water and stuff like that and they're having trouble with that so that delays them any further. So I think it was mentioned that they are not gonna start building until probably the latter part of next year And we were making money on that, on the permitting fees and everything else. And then the taxes eventually.
The other side of that was 15 acres of commercial that if that were here today, we'd have a different scenario but we're not. So we need to look at the departments and say, here's where we are. Here's the expenses. What does it take to run the department? What does it take to run the finance department? What does it take to run the fire department? Work and we cut. So if we had that before us, I believe we'd be more than happy to say this is our responsibility not the staff's you just give us the data and we'll go at it.
And again like the grants that we have if we can't
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I just want to thank Eli for this robust report. I think it uncovered some red flags that maybe should have been flagged last year, and unfortunately that didn't happen so i really want to thank you for this thorough report Um, speaking of last year. I know that maybe we didn't have the strongest foundation and so I think David will be working on how we can create a strong foundation to have that budget play out for the best of us.
Last year we've seen, um, I've seen a few spending on our warrants. I want to see how we can direct staff to make sure that you know reimbursements are submitted on time. So we're not late on reimbursements. I think a few times reimbursements have been submitted a year or two late And then what can we also give direction on staff for like purchase and travel, what does that look like.
And if there's any more realistic options that we can do to move forward to have a structurally balanced budget I would like to know.
So, but we are going to in Put in place July 1st, we're going to start doing a purchase order program. Anything 1000 dollars or more collectively has to come through get my approval. It will go through finance it will get finances approvals stating that you do have money in that account that you're trying to spend so that's going to go on place. What was the other part?
I think the reimbursements.
Oh, reimbursement yeah so that's difficult with this new grant firm that we went to they are handling everything A-Z okay uh so writing submission reimbursement reporting and then we will still have a staff member who is also doing that that's finding all the money right now that who would have thought right um so that'll be in place also We have some projects that are going on the.
Have been started and then delayed due to permitting. So, there's already been a lot charged to those accounts so trying to stop those might not even make sense but there is other projects that. Are not regulatory required. We do have like lift stations that are going into and to work, that we have to do so that we don't get novice. So those will have to continue but things like you know in all construction is probably gonna stop in December.
Retroactively, and that's going to be everything from the Royal theater to. If lost my headers isn't done like construction is stopping in December we have to take a moment. Pump our brakes balance our books find out how much money we have because. The Royal theater alone will shut the city down. With our revolving funds and our reimbursement actions with the Royal theater.
Because it's federal, they don't reimburse quick. And we're working off borrowed time so everything will have to stop in December and then take a breath figure out where we are. Um, and then. Do like an actual priority list for construction projects. I think in the past we've applied for grants, we've been awarded grants and then we sit on grants for a long time And then we start cooking off grants and just project, project, project or you know whatever the case may be. And nobody thinks that hey it's a good idea that maybe we should prioritize these which ones do we need first? Which could we have waited another year on the theater? Could we have started the park last year? You know like there's no like actual prioritization on needs right?
It's all um... We're being reactive with grants and we can't be. We have to be more proactive. We have to do more planning up front We have to manage the grant as if we have the money, because that's the way it becomes. As soon as you start doing something and you charge something to that account, you better start doing a reimbursement. I mean, we've seen it from FEMA with Cal OES to the EDA with the Royal Theater. If you're not staying on top of those grant reimbursements, $300,000 on Highway 1 lift station that we can't get a reimbursement on because we waited too long to file the reimbursement. And the reason for the reimbursement is null and void anymore.
So we're running at the issues like that whenever we had people in place that were supposed to be doing that as their job. So that's the kind of things that we're starting to find. And now that they're being pointed out, we can be more proactive with our approach Because this reactive that we've been, it's going to bring the city down. It's
not sustainable. I like the prioritization. Do you have a master list or will you create a master list of projects that are happening in Guadalupe? The Project Amal and then obviously if you have prioritization what that looks like so that way we know what are the ongoing projects.
You know, because it is actually something that we, we maintain a list of projects. Um, you know, when I started here last year. For a city of 8700 8700 people. You know we had a 37Million dollars CIP list. You know, slow and Santa Maria aren't touching the 37 million dollars CIP list. Yeah or if they are it's because it's in their 5 year plan right? Theoretically whenever you're doing these projects, it's a 5 year plan right? You know Jeff comes that does a 5 year POP for that reason and.
We shouldn't have started 21Million dollars of projects within 6 months of each other. Right we should have done 3Million. Or 1 project 1 project. And then we wouldn't be stuck with the same problem that we're in now where. We've started projects got held up by permitting and now, you know the. It doesn't make sense for us to stop because we're so far as spending goes into the project, you know? So I mean it's.
We can't fix the past, you know all we can do is start from right now. We have a list we've worked and we've cut that list from I don't know $37 million to I donno it's probably $5 million now there's probably one thing on there. And it's stuff that has to be done or the financial effect of the city isn't Um, great enough that it's going to. Be detrimental you know, we have a project that you guys approved tonight for the sidewalk at the school, you know? Like, the, the cons of that project far outweigh what we're going to spend on that project so.
That that's the kind of stuff that we're looking at now and it's. We're digging into the weeds of all these things and finding out. Where the money is coming from, is there a deadline on the grant? How close are we to that deadline? And if we're too close then it's like hey, like the mayor said, well just let it fall and we'll reapply again. But what we can't do is start a grant And then let it falter, because then we may not get that grant again.
Or people start looking at us like, oh, we can't give those guys money. They can't even fill out paperwork. So we're trying to avoid that but still work in a way that we can balance some kind of budget.
Thank you.
I think Christina has a good point. We need
to see that list
so it's not on your shoulders.
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I think we're aware of the different projects that are out there, the big, you know, the pie in the sky. But the specifics in terms of reimbursement, the cost, what's it? How much lead time is there that we have to, you know, when we submit a request for reimbursement, when do we get it paid? What pocket of money does that come from with general fund and then now we're finding out You know, too late that's not a way to do business.
And you know we're making our budget based on the grant amount right? So we're making Eli found this out last week sometime or couple weeks ago where there was grants in there for say three and a half million dollars and that's what we're budgeting but the contract amount was only 2.2 Yeah, so now we just took $1.3 million off our budget that we're no longer worried about no more because we're not even going to get there. All we need to worry about is the 2.2.
So you know he's started going through and picking apart contracts like how much is this? How much is this? What is the you know the 15% accidental stuff and you know all this stuff to actually get us a natural formulated budget?
Not. You mentioned FEMA. Where are we with
that? That is the ghost underneath the bed that nobody wants to look at.
Well, can I speak to that as well? I think just to piggyback on, you know, obviously exclamation mark on everything that David said. But with grants, as you know, I think if the moral of the story there are a blessing and a curse, right? I think for a city, if you manage it responsibly, you can do it.
Right.
And I think the FEMA is a perfect example of why Yes, it's great to have grant money. However, because you're spent the outlay of money is comes up front. You know anything that happens whether it's staff changes whether it's a report that's required by the federal government or whoever you're getting a reimbursement from can delay the recovery of those funds were three years for FEMA three years out from the actual incident now.
And so to answer your question, where are we at right now? Right now it's in FEMA's desk. They're analyzing the information that we sent them and we're waiting to hear back from them. So again, that's out of our control right now. But again, we're three years out from recovering $800,000. That's a chunk of change for a city of this size. The liquidity concerns are real.
I think with respect to the grants, David and I have had a lot of conversations you're probably tired of hearing from me on this front end. You know, I go into his office as they look at the CIP list and what can we cut today? Because there's no way that the city can spend $10 million on this project in this coming year because quite frankly, we don't have that money.
We don't have it. I mean, what are we just going to stop operations for the entire city that's not gonna happen. So we have to do this a little bit more intelligently and obviously he's been great about that. But just to give you a perspective of how we got there. And to add to David's point if you turn to page 14. It's the 14 of the budget worksheet, there's two sets of page numbers and I apologize I think next time I'll give you one set But it's the fund summary, it should say on the top right and it says 14 of 14.
So if you look at that column on the far left 23-24, you have a surplus of $1 million. And to David's point, the reason that you have a surplus is because that year. If you flip back to page three of that same report, you have... Sorry, well it's under the grants. Well for simplicity sake let's just say it's under the grants inside the general revenue we banked on 1.1 million dollars that we were going to receive I know what that was supposed to be for.
That money got baked into the general fund and You know, although that money hasn't been spent for what it was supposed to be spent. It inflated the revenues and we we spent like as if we had a million $1.1 million more. So that's the problem with that, that way of thinking and as you can see 2425 budget deficit 2526 budget deficit and the budget deficit is just going to keep compounding so we're here for a reason.
And so and if we don't change the trajectory of this, the numbers are just going to get bigger and bigger and bigger. And so I just want to make sure that for purposes of clarity for me and maybe I don't know for the rest of us to make sure that we're on the right path. You want us to come back with areas where we could cut costs, to give you sort of a visual by department and give you some options.
And then just from my perspective it's going to be important to understand whether or not service levels are on the table as well because that's really where you're gonna have the most impact. Because if you're gonna tell us we want the exact same service level and magically cut costs I think we're gonna be having the same conversation and we're not gonna get anywhere.
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Okay. No, we need that and it's our job to basically say yay or nay to these things. On these numbers that you've got here 24-25... Where did you find these numbers? Are you digging into them? The numbers that have always been there. I haven't changed
23, 24. The only year that I've touched is 26, 27. And so those have always been there. And the challenge as I'm looking through this, my goal is to balance these accounts. To have a balanced budget that's where the term comes from is a balanced budget means that if you look at the revenues and the expenditures for the account, the outcome is zero. That's what city government... You're not here to make a profit. So you're expending as much money as you're taking in and you're using it wisely So if you look at prior years, and you can look at this later on but you look at the accounts in the net. The net of those accounts is not going to be zero.
If you would have kept to those budgets as you would have planned in the budgets, you would have intentionally overspent. And that's the problem right so I think we need to cut that down and now that we've sort of treated up and said okay we can't just say We can't just say we're not looking at the enterprise funds today, but we will. And I have a pretty solid idea what those look like.
But we can't say we're going to take $800,000 from the enterprise fund when the enterprise fund doesn't have an extra $800,000 to take from it. So we just need to pump the brakes on that. Right? So I think we need to figure out where we're going to get those other $800 thousand dollars from if it's not going to be there.
I just had a quick question for Mr single. I know that Mr Eli was referencing the 2023 2024 and audited financials, is there anything as counsel that we can do to safeguard the city, maybe a policy in place that ensures that we have to do these audits every year. I'm not too sure.
You certainly could have council policy directing staff to do that. You could probably adopt an ordinance to that effect.
What would be this, I guess the best? I would just like to have some safeguards moving forward to make sure that we're not working with unaudited numbers in the future.
I could get back to you and see what your options are. I wasn't prepared to answer any questions during this particular segment. I
just know that impacts our residents and our communities first.
A lot of agencies, we get money from one audit so it's why... We shouldn't have to say we're gonna get it done. It's our job, the council will make it happen.
Well, and it's my understanding that both state and county have audit requirements in place correct.
That's
right yeah so the county council doesn't necessarily need to do that because the state and county already did that.
So previously we would have just told them we did it or what would happen with those conversations.
It probably went something along the lines of the same thing everybody in the county did not too long ago, when everybody was had submitted on audited reports to what was it? The SB CAG that everybody just did it. Yeah. To just provide something and then Probably nobody stayed on top of it here. To ensure that, you know because I mean whatever that last one was a TDA that was submitted a couple months ago that everybody should submit an audited reports and you know, you have to stay on it, You know, God bless Eli. You know he's coming in here guns blazing and he's trying to if we didn't have RGS and we didn't have Annette working side by side like we wouldn't even be even kind of having this discussion yet probably
Thank you for that. I was new to council so this is my fourth year but I don't think it was ever shared like this needs to be audited until last year that was raised to us, and so that's why you know we will have obviously one day where none of these councils will be here. So what safeguards will be in place to make sure that, you know,
I'm assuming that's what you have like Gatsby and the cafeteria and all this stuff, these financial terms dictate right yeah
there's definitely there's told us on. There's definitely regulation and there's guidance on these types of things. The challenge, and I wasn't here, the challenge is how it fell behind. And there could have been a multitude of things that happened. I don't know that I can speak to that. And I also will say this, I was at breakfast the other day with the finance directors of surrounding areas and several of them were behind on their audits for their cities That being said, it doesn't necessarily help us in any way shape or form that everybody else is behind or others are behind. Right? We're still being gated on accessing our funds.
We have about over a million dollars that are waiting to be distributed to us from SBCAG and they won't give it to us until we have our audits done. So it's a challenge
And it's all money that's already been spent. Right? You know, we look at and you know, we're going to face this probably in every 6 months until highway 166 is done. And that's we have to pay a portion of that right like. We're required to pay $4 million into that construction. How do we do that if we don't have $4 million, or we're not getting our audits done to get reimbursements from SPCAG so that we do have that $4 million so that we can make the payment? You know and you know we could try to...we don't have the safeguards in place that we had Prior whenever we were in the same situation, you know, we can't sell the water tower again. We can't take money from Pasadena again.
We don't have that option anymore so. We can hope that maybe the folks that bought the land over here off of Flower want to annex into the city and start a development. I don't know, we can hope something like that happens but you're still looking at 10 years down the road or something. It's unfortunate our sphere of influence doesn't really reach very far because of the shape of our city, the development opportunities within our city, things they give all these other cities economic Um, hope we don't really have because.
Our city is essentially developed and we're locked in right? We're kind of unless we seek to start going out and. Taking property going towards the coast or. You know, towards Santa Maria, but we still hit all these agricultural. Uh, things are gonna block us from any kind of future development anytime soon so. So what's next? Next, we will I kind of have a plan that you already requested. I kind of already have something like that already in place and I think I've already kind of started working off it but we could present that and then we will have a re or well we will have Enterprise funds next.
And or would you prefer us to reattack this one again and then enterprise enterprise is going to be pretty cut dry, right? I mean, it's
prejudice. Yes,
it is what we
need to get this
just yeah, you know next two weeks will come back with some options of corporate restructuring
that in You know, I know that we had we went through a different financial system and finance system. So everybody says well, that's the problem because we couldn't one couldn't talk to the other and and I think Eli is looking through that.
Yeah but yeah i mean even talking to the pros that are assisting us you know once we get 22-23 done we will only be on our current financial system. And there's not a glimmer of increasing the speed in which this is done,
right? Okay.
Yeah, because that's been my question to okay, once we get on the same, we get on the software we're using now you know, we're just gonna be firing on all cylinders and no it's not like that. Okay. You know, because now, you know where to look to find where everything's hidden. Right. So depending on the auditor and you know how far they want to go down the rabbit hole
You know, I'm not gonna blame anybody but over the last year and a half before Eli got here is that normally we had financial reports on a monthly basis to show where we were. Then it showed the reserve, it showed... And then for some reason that didn't happen And then all of a sudden, we find out that the 22-23 audit wasn't done. So then we said why not? We have to look forward.
We can't rehash that because it's gone in terms of where we are, but I think and bring it back so we could chew on it. So we could see just like the list of the projects that we have what's gonna cost us if we move forward with this? We need to know that so that you will have direction from us. Any comments from Council? Jean?
Just repeating once we get this data, projects and departmental information. That's exactly what we need and can make some good decisions next council meeting.
Are we going to have a budget workshop To go into detail in this is it or we're just going to.
Yeah, we can go into as much details you want
okay?
Um. This was a good overview so if next. Man we got a lot coming up over the next month. Okay, as long as you give us... Because we have elections and all this stuff yeah so uh we have stuff that has to get passed so okay um but we will dig into as much of this as well if you want. We can do power points and okay good other stuff if that's yeah good make it more um so you can see it better yes
oh thank you Eli David, Chief, anybody else? We got work to do. All right, future agenda items. Do we have a Cesar, when's the street name coming up? Is that on here? I didn't check it out.
We
have
sent this stuff out.
When is it due? I thought it was soon. I know that the flyers or the opinions had to come in. That's all right, don't worry about it. I'll have
to send you a text.
Okay any future agenda items? We got enough to chew on? Announcements? Council activity reports? Amelia, you first.
Okay. As Chief mentioned there was a Memorial Day ceremony at the cemetery yesterday and Mayor spoke, Chief spoke, Albert Nunes Jr., who's the president of the cemetery spoke and the guest speaker was Helen Gelvin, who was the president of the GI Forum. It was very well received for a change it was extremely hot and there were a good number of people there. It was very nice and there was a very nice luncheon at the Vets Hall afterwards catered by I believe it was Murdoch's It was very good.
This Thursday is the, it was mentioned Chief also mentioned the Baka Youth Boys and Girls Club I will be participating in that. That'll be my first time.
What time does it start Shirley? 530. Well you know.
Yeah, 530 to 730. And let's see, my first meeting of the CCWA was scheduled for this Thursday. It's the last Thursday of each month and then I received an email that it was cancelled So, the next meeting is going to be on June 25th and it's gonna be a public hearing. To approve the 2020, I guess 2025-2026 Urban Water Management Plan. There's a document that was sent out with an email. It's 190 pages.
So hopefully I can read that before June 25th. Also the meeting that I typically participate in, the bi-monthly Zoom meeting, elected leaders' meeting, June 12th, that also was canceled. It must be
summer.
That's what I said, it must be summer. The next meeting is in August. Let's see, I think that's it. All
right, Jean, anything? Cristina.
Thank you, I attended the Hancock scholarship celebration. I think there's over 300 students receiving awards it was really exciting to see them celebrate with their parents have that conversation. I also attended cruise night in Santa Maria this past Friday and then recently today I unfortunately saw a video of Catholic charity workers from Guadalupe Unfortunately, being revved up by ICE officers at the jail and it's unfortunate to just see that. I just wanted to share that. Thank
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you. During the Memorial Day celebration, the group took post 371, American Legion Post 371 and Vietnam Veterans 982. We took over 40 chairs And then we actually had to double it because there's so many people that were there. So, it was a good turnout and NARLOS did provide the food, the group 371 and 982 paid for it but it was good food. Thank that group for putting that together. Do I hear a motion to adjourn?
Jean?
Okay, I'll make a motion to adjourn.
Is there a second? All those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. Thank you, staff. Thank you. 825. I'm out of here.