City Council — February 3, 2026

Welcome to Lompoc City Council meeting, February 3rd, 2026. Opening of closed session. Roll call please.

Mayor and Council, the City Council met in closed session to discuss the four items on the agenda. The closed session items. The City Council gave direction on all of those items but there was no reportable action taken.

I pray lord that you give wisdom To our guys, to our people that work the streets, the engineers, Lord. Those are in the city. I met a smiling face today and she could have just got everything from me she wanted because I appreciate the pleasantry that we have here. And so Lord with that being said, we ask for your guidance. We asked for your wisdom That you continue to bless us, continue to protect the men and women that are on the streets right now.

That is protecting our city and run to the emergency not run away. So thank you for all the fire personnel, all the EMT. Thank you for this great cast of leaders in our city. And we pray in your name. Amen.

Please join me in pledge allegiance. Ready, begin.

Thank you, Mayor. First off I just want to say it's been an honor to serve on the Communify Board for almost five years now. You guys are doing tremendous work for not only our community but folks throughout the county so thank you for this. Today we're highlighting 211 so I'd like to read this proclamation to you and then present All right, here we go. 211 Community Celebration Month. Whereas the 211 Helpline is an information and referral system connecting people to free or low cost health and human services and up-to-date incident and emergency related information through call, text, and the web.

And whereas the 211 program was first enacted by the Federal Communication Commission in 2000 and now covers 85% of all households nationwide. And 96% of the population in the state of California has access to 2-1-1. And whereas, 2-11 Santa Barbara County was first implemented in 2005 and is a free and confidential service available 24 hours a day 7 days a week in 150 languages to every resident countywide And whereas in November of 2014, 211 became a program of Communify, the Santa Barbara County nonprofit which empowers people and transforms lives through their 16 programs which serve the community.

And whereas in 2024, 211 had over 22,400 web visits including 17,154 new users to 211SBCO.org And 10,000 resources were provided to residents throughout the county by a live call specialist with the most urgent needs including calls about housing mental health utility assistance family and community support services and legal and public safety services. Whereas Communify's Energy Services and Head Start programs will be hosting the free 2-1-1 Community Day celebration on Saturday, February 7th from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m., at our own Dick DeWeese Community Center here in Lompoc with over 50 nonprofit agencies, free health screenings and vaccines, children's activities, food, entertainment and more.

Now therefore I should be he James Mosby, by virtue of the authority vested in me, him as Mayor of the City of Lompoc, do hereby declare the month of February 2026 as 2-1-1 Community Celebration Month and acknowledges Communify and their years of serving the Lompoc community through the programs and services they offer including the invaluable 2- 1-1 Helpline.

And I'd like to present that to you guys. Would you like to say a few words?

Good evening, my name is Patricia Keelan. I am CEO for Communify. I'm so pleased to be here tonight and I want to just begin by thanking the City Council for all of your tremendous support and partnership for 2-1-1 Santa Barbara. As Jeremy indicated since 2014 Communify has proudly operated Santa Barbara 211 Free 24 7 information and referral line that provides a variety of resources to the community. It's available to every resident in Santa Barbara County and here in Lompoc.

And it is available in over 150 languages. When people are in crisis or just simply in need of information, 211 is often the front door to help whether that be housing, utility assistance. We also provide information on mental health support and even disaster assistance and so much more. This year we've been expanding our services and we've developed an immigrant resource center, a database that's available through our 211 network.

And anyone can go to that resource. They can access information on know your rights, how to assist someone who has been detained, also how to assist a minor who may be unaccompanied or even reaching out to a consulate so that they can get information on repatriation. So, that resource is available and then this year we're proud to be introducing a new 211 youth app that will be available to youths so that they can on their phone simply look up the 211 app and access resources on their own We're very excited about our upcoming 211 Resource Day here in Lompoc this coming Saturday and we want to invite all of you To come and attend, we have over 65 organizations that will be participating. We'll have free health screenings, haircuts, free food, there'll be music and all kinds of family friendly activities.

So we would like to see all of you there. And please, if you are in the community, please come out and access all those wonderful resources that are available here in Lompoc and throughout our county. Thank you so much for this evening. We want to say a special thank you to the city of Lompoc for all of the support and helping us to organize this year's 2-1-1 event. Thank you so much.

Anybody have any quick questions for them? You guys are getting off the hook easy. I've got one, as an example of one of the questions being out on the street most of the nights meeting with people and stuff. One was who do we call to find out where the warming center is when people need to find a warming center? Is that something that 211 would call? Yeah. Do you guys answer that one? Yes. Okay. I know who it is. Go ahead.

Hi. City Council members. My name is Alejandra Enciso and I'm the 201 program manager for Santa Barbara County, and I work for Communify Yes, we do have a live registry of all the warming shelters in our county. And during weather disasters and any type of outage of power or any incoming turmoil that people might experience, we update those shelters in a list and we provide them in their newsfeed so when call specialists answer the phones they will We have a list directly of which warming shelters are open by the county as part of the OEM.

Yeah, the coldest night of the year. I was driving around trying to find it. I thought it was over on 2nd Street and it wasn't nothing was open but It's 35 36 degrees. I couldn't find a warming center open anywhere So

yeah, so we you can either we when it's something like that very emergency oriented We ask all our callers to call two one one and you can actually prompt into holding your Your queue in line and so you can ask to get a call back, and they'll call you back or you can text your your area code. And we'll call specialist will respond that way as well.

You wouldn't mind me sending this over to some of the Hispanic radio stations?

No, please do. I speak Spanish. We

have a gentleman that's around who is like hey, you know, I can do PSAs for you. So he's been in town doing other things so it might be a good thing. Thank you. Maybe get a call from him.

Mayor, can I add something to that real quick? This 2-1-1 event. I hope you guys can all go. It's a really exciting event but you're going to have a couple of radio stations there as well. I think Sunny Country and the Spanish speaking radio station will be there as well.

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will be there as well so I think they are already putting the word out for sure. We'll see if we got into

that one.

Yeah, the flyers are in English and Spanish and put some outside. And then they're also on our website in our social

media.

Thank you.

Something to report our consent calendar where there is one that gave I remember. Thank you, Mayor. I

just want to take a moment and let everybody know that I'm pretty proud of Parks and Rec. They've done about a four-year project on the RV parts. They've got 35 full hookup spaces that are completed. They can handle 50 foot RVs, 50 amp service. There's a lot of things to do. If your friends come and you can stay there, there's a playground or walking trails in Kiwanis Lake. And it's $50 a night, $10 for an extra vehicle. They have a host there if you have any questions. But it's a great opportunity if you have friends or family coming to town. It's a good place for them to stay.

Wanted to let everybody know that the library got two grants. One is a $500 grant from Coast Hills which will be used for teen internship programs This other one I thought was kind of interesting. It's a $10,000 grant we got from the Carnegie Corporation and it's in celebration of the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration. The reason I thought it was kind of interesting is because in 1910, we got a $10000 grant from them to build the building that's on Cypress and High at the Carnegie Library. Even though they don't use the library anymore, they restyled the building and we still were able to get that $1000 grant so pretty impressive building.

I want to let everybody know that transit has two weeks left on their free fares. It's a good opportunity to go out and check out the new routes. This is all part of the transportation unmet need workshops like they did in November. Midtown will take advantage of that. I want to also let everybody know that we are seeking lender applications for our first time home buyer program There's five slots, it'll be competitive rank and review. It needs to be in by February 20th and we look forward to people applying for that and you can get a hold of Snell if you have any questions there.

I also wanted to share something that's also pretty exciting for the police department. They'll be implementing a new dispatch system Tuesday, the 10th, that's called a hyper software. It will be part of the AI assisting program where they can handle a lot of the routine calls and reduce about 75% of emergency calls by utilizing this resource, non-emergency calls by utilizing this resource And it also has 30 different languages. It can be 24 systems, so it's a great move and we're doing some other stuff with AI for the dispatchers and I think it's going to be good technology for enhancing our services out there.

Lastly, I just want to remind everybody not this funding but the next funding will be February 16th and we'll be serving President's Day and like always trash recycling and green waste will be collected one day later. So that's all I have tonight.

Any questions for the city manager? Councillor Boehme.

So I had a quick question and just because I talked to you about this personally, maybe you can update us. There's a few people who reached out to me that said hey I thought they had paid for the park next to the YMCA, the new skate park nothings happened is that ever going to happen I think you gave me some good news, but I was hoping that maybe you could update all of us on our expectations for that college park next to the YMCA.

Yeah, so we are in the process of the RFP process. So that will probably go out in the next few weeks to a month. So we have our building permit and so we're looking at probably coming back in April-May for council approval once the RFP closes and to award the bid. And so we'll just start breaking ground hopefully in the summertime.

So best case scenario, we might see a new park by the end of this year or early the following year. Is that a rough? We're hoping

by late fall, probably October-ish would be a good time.

Awesome. Thank you. I don't skateboard myself. It's very dangerous and my son is curious and I'm scared to death of that but I know there's a lot of excited skateboarders that can't wait so thank you for that update. Excited to see a new park there.

Anybody else? Just a quick shout out to you and the police officers out there. I got a text last night, somebody was very impressed that their trespassers who were moving had a camp on their property without them have to call the PD. The PD actually engaged and asked the guy if he'd come down and sign the trespass warrant to take care of the business but the guy was very happy and impressed with the proactive engagement He was impressed enough to text me at 8.30 last night, so thank you guys.

It's always good to hear that. Thank you.

Thank you. Now, Gabe! There we go. See? Staged

ya. Gotcha staged up. Good evening Mayor, members of the Council, audience and audience watching at home. Item number eight is an amendment to the employment agreement for the city manager. It sets the salaries and benefits for the city managers at the levels listed in the staff report and the attachment and staff's recommendation is to adopt. Thank you.

Very good. We got that? So you turn it okay. So we'll open up public comment on consent calendar. Consent calendar, we have nine items on here. Approval of minutes from December 2nd 2025 approval ratification expenditures payroll January 2nd 2026 at $2.1 million and a voucher from December 29th to January 2nd $561,000 another voucher January 5th through 9th was $676,000 Approval agreement of operation of countywide library system.

Number four is approval MOU or MOA of Santa Barbara County Air Pollution Control Justice to implement the 2025 Clean Air Fund program for Lompoc and designate the Santa Cruz Community Center as a clean air facility. And they got a generator coming too, right?

Still not approved yet. I think everything's for homeland security. Getting close. Getting tied up, so we'll keep our fingers

crossed. That's our FEMA triage facility. Number five, annual compliance report for development impact fees per government code subdivision 66006B1. Number six, approve a letter informing Santa Barbara County civil grand jury that the city intends to repeal the sub-recipient financial pragmatic and monitoring reporting requirement policy chapter 45 of Lompoc Administrative Procedures Manual.

Number seven is the introduction of ordinance number 1742, principles 26, amending section 2.12.050 of the Lompoc Municipal Code to establish a new acting city manager designation procedures. Number eight's approval of Fifth Amendment of City Manager Employment Agreement with Dean Alvarado and adoption resolution number 6798, principles 26, updating the city's publicly available pay schedule.

Number nine is contract for urban forestry service amount of $577,750. Anybody want to come up and talk about any of those items? Any council member who wants to pull any of these items or could do a motion as well? Council Member Bridge.

I would like to pull item five and

item nine.

Okay.

Item number five. Item number nine. All right, and items pulled by the council will be read prior to the last... before the second oral communication near the end of the meeting. Anybody else? I see nobody rise for public comment. We'll close public comment coming back. Oh, Council Member Ball? Just a quick question on item

six just for clarity if I may. Good idea. On item six that's our... we're saying... I know it's not... It's just part of the process. We're sending a letter to the grand jury. You probably expect them to respond but Can you get in layman's terms, can you explain to me? So it says under key details burden versus benefit. It says staff argues the policy is too onerous costing 25 to 50 grand annually and staff time to monitor even when no grants trigger the threshold. Can you just break that down for me what's happening and what are we trying to clean up here?

This is a policy and procedure that staff complies with every year It takes staff time and staff expense to do this policy every year, and it's out of a set of circumstances that occurred back in 2012 time period. So the city has been complying with this policy for quite some time. At this point there are no outstanding housing grants in excess of the $50,000 minimum that would even trigger The requirements under the policy, and yet the city still has to go through the motions. And it costs about $25,000-$50,000 per year in staff time to comply with this policy.

We believe that we have other monitoring and compliance requirements in place that will be We believe sufficient for the grand jury to not have significant comments if the city wanted to repeal this policy that's been in place now for 13 years or so. So we're just notifying the grand jury that we plan to repeal this policy and we're seeking any feedback from them, and then we'll consider that feedback before we make a decision whether to repeal it or not.

Thank you for that. So if I could say we're not necessarily relaxing any rules, we're just tired of doing unnecessary paperwork. That would be an accurate

statement, yes. Great,

thank you. Anybody else? Council Member Bridge?

I move we approve consent plus items 5 and 6.

I'm sorry, 5 and 9. Motion by Bridges, seconded by Vega. Let's go ahead and vote. That passes 5-0. Staff presentation. Planning a kickoff discussion of the most exciting thing this city does, the General Plan. Lori, you're up for this one. Here we go. Ribbons and the popcorn?

Good evening, I'm Lori Tamora, contract planner for the city of Lompoc. We are here tonight to begin the process of updating our general plan. We have with us our consultant team, Jim Harnish with Minton Harnish Brent Gimbett, and I would like to invite up Brian Lester who will be making the presentation on how we're going to proceed forward with the general plan process.

Awesome hello thank you for having me today to start off the general plan So I'll just, I just have a few slides today kind of going through the project overview. What we heard from the council during the contract approval meeting and then we'll quickly go through our engagement program just to let you know what's going on with the general plan and what we're planning and then we'll take your direction so any direction comments you have for us of course we're looking for that today So our consultant team, there's three firms. Minter Harnish we will be handling facilitating the community engagement, managing the project and then working on the draft general plan.

Rincon Consultants and DKS will be working on the environmental analysis. So a quick project overview, this is actually part two of the general plan update. Part one is still partially in progress but three elements were adopted as part of part one so the housing element, environmental justice element and the safety element those are all required parts of your general plan excuse me and then the circulation element is still in progress so I believe that's what the planning commission is doing For this phase of the project, we are going to address the remaining general plan elements. So there are required elements as part of that so the land use element, conservation open space element and noise element are required so of course we'll be updating those but then there are some optional elements that are part of the current general plan and so under our contract we will be addressing those elements so public facilities element parks and recreation economic development and urban design Now, you know we paid attention to the contract approval meeting.

The council had a good amount of direction actually during that meeting. So he took notes and I've tried to reflect it here to make sure we're on the right page and to take any additional directions so some of the things we heard first of all less is more there's a lot going on in your general plan. It covers a lot of optional topics and subtopics, and those should be considered whether or not we want to include them. Just because it's there doesn't mean we should carry it forward.

We also heard that the existing elements may not have been as successful as they could be just due to that wide scope and overly prescriptive approach, and that perhaps it's better in this general plan update to narrow the scope a little bit, dial in what we really want to dial in. We also heard as part of that consolidating elements should be an option that we should consider, right?

The economic development element is not required. As we take a look at that and work with staff, we heard council direction to perhaps only keep what we need and make sure that it's maybe consolidated into the land use element. Urban design element, same thing. It's not it's not a required element. Anything that the city wants to keep can be in that element or it can be consolidated into the land use element as well so that's something we want to consider of course.

And then optional content so if we're going to include content You know it should be thoughtful right. We don't want to just carry forward what we were doing before, what the city's been doing because some of it has worked and some of it honestly could be dialed in better. We want to make sure to remove any of that optional content, especially content that may actually constrain development. Constrain growth. If we have policies that are actually not working for us they're working against us, that's bad. Obviously we want to identify those right away and consolidate those or remove them.

And then a few more things we heard so identifying and removing policies that constrain development. I mentioned that the updated elements should really be concise, they should be feasible and implementable right? We also heard that that we don't want to include policy language that creates obstacles or higher costs for developers right? We need to be sensitive of that And then finally that the land use element and EIR should consider the potential annexations and SOI adjustments to facilitate annexation, and that should be a major part of the land use element. So some of the focuses for the general plan update, so incorporating the ad hoc committee changes and comments Anticipating the housing need from the state that will come down for the next housing element period.

And actually, the general plan will cover two housing element periods so we really want to look at what those RENAM numbers may be and make sure that we're planning accordingly. We don't want to have the next Rena cycle come, next housing element come and say oh no we didn't plan enough right. And now we have to maybe look at some more rezones that after doing the general plan land use element right? We don't want that to happen so we definitely need to anticipate the upcoming Rena or the housing need.

We want to focus on infill property development and the potential that's there. We want to look at sphere of influence adjustments, pre-zonings for those areas and annexations. And then really focus on having a new EIR for the general plan that future projects can tear off of. And then on the topic of the annexations, we want to make sure we're consistent with SPCAG growth projections and the RTP.

The ongoing MSR process and then identified LAFCO policies. And that is just to make sure that we're aligned with the sphere of influence adjustments and the proposed annexations. Oh, and then we also want to make sure that those SOI adjustments are covered as part of the EIR. I've just got a graphic here with some of those potential annexation areas. And so, of course, we want to make sure to consider it and plan accordingly.

So for this project, we've crafted an engagement strategy. We tried to have within the budget a really multifaceted engagement strategy rather than just one or two things not getting enough input. We really need input in order to be able to draft general plan updates so it's extremely important. So first we do have a project website for the project from part one. EnvisionLompoc.com will do a new branding effort for this phase two, phase one logo has a house on it. We're not doing the housing element at this time so we will come up with a new branding scheme update the website and the website really is a critical part of our engagement. The website really is the central hub for everything we're doing it's where you're going to send people to find out information what is the general plan right?

We give them that context information that they need in order to participate, right? We also post all project documents notices about meetings just any information related to general plan we get it there And make it available for folks. Then when we do post stuff to the website, when we post notices, we send out email blasts. We do have an email list as part of the project. When you go on the project website there's a little button on the right. Click that and put your email in. You're part of the list. You'll get the notifications. This is really important. Anybody who's interested at all please sign up for the email list. Tell your friends and family to sign up as well.

And then workshops. We have three in-person workshops planned. These also have associated online activities so that folks who can't make the workshop can do the activity online, but the workshops are really centered on key points where we need input. So early on when we're analyzing existing conditions, we're looking at the assets in the town issues and opportunities right? We want to do a workshop then to get feedback from the public.

In the middle of the project as we're doing the land use alternatives and looking at, okay so what are some different options that we have for our land use map? We definitely want to do another workshop. So we'll hold a workshop and we'll get public input on some of those ideas. And then finally the third workshop is to present the draft general plan and let people know what's in it where to find it and then to take input on that.

I should say with each of these workshops, we do have a meeting with the City Council and Planning Commission that's associated to get the same input as well as to go over all of the input that we've heard from the public with you. Get your take your feedback and your direction. So we have several study sessions and hearings planned with the Planning Commission and City Council. They're listed here, but generally it's at the same spots.

We have today's meeting obviously to kick off the project in phase...in the existing conditions phase. We'll meet to talk about assets issued as opportunities. We'll meet again to talk about alternatives. And then we'll meet to talk about the draft plan and look at adoption. At all points in time, any of those meetings are public meetings. So we do encourage the public to come out to those meetings and share their input as well.

Just going over some of the products that we're gonna produce as part of this. So first, we'll start with the background report just looking at what are the trends in city currently? What's a projected population over the course of the general plan? We'll draft an assets issues opportunities report that also includes a vision for the general plan and this will be really to guide the planning of the general plan. We'll meet, of course, with the City Council to get their feedback on that.

An alternatives report, the draft general plan, and then the EIR itself in the next three bullets are all part of the EIR. And then finally, the final general plan. Our schedule, it's a little hard to see here but it's basically the whole project is scheduled to be wrapped up by October of 28. The first six months here will be in phases two and three where we're looking at existing conditions and assessing the existing general plan.

And then the second half of 2026 will be doing the land use alternatives process. You can see that drafting the general plan here. It's no five is like an eight month process, and the ER itself is like almost a year process so that the a lot of the in person engagement up front in the plan for it's drafted. And then this is just a, it's really hard to see here but we wanted to let the council know that we've lined up the schedule with the schedule that LAFCO is undertaking so that our project unfolds similarly and we're not trailing them. Our data is actually available.

And with that, you know I just wanted to give You know just an overview of what the project is what we're going to be asking of you when we come for study sessions and Just take any questions. So we're here if you have any questions Thank you

Anybody comes from bridge Yeah, you might want to know maybe Lori will answer So, we seem to get in a circle where RHNA numbers come out or state mandates come out and we get into reaction mode. Is part of the 2050 general plan engagement going to address capacity? I mean, we can do all these numbers but if we don't have the capacity. And I'm thinking that...I don't know if rationale works with the state but when the time comes and we get told we need to put another 3,000 houses in it might be good to have a pre-configured component of our general plan that says well this is our capacity And just because you say we're going to put 3,000 houses in.

We've looked at the infill. We've looked at the history of LAFCO and we don't have the capacity. But we have to put some energy into determining it would seem to me as part of the general plan development looking forward A lot of years, it's hard to fathom we can look that far forward. But capacity should be an issue if we're going to protect ag land. We're not gonna cross natural barriers.

So I didn't see that anywhere in anything. I've looked at previously, doesn't mean it's not there. But could you comment on that?

Sure thing. Part of the first task that the consultants and the staff will be working with is the trends. What's driving growth for the city of Lompoc? One of them is what Santa Barbara Association of Governments provides which is their long-range plan for 2050. They've calculated an estimated population growth for the county of Santa Barbara as well as each one of the cities. And that's kind of the guiding principle that the cities are working with to extrapolate forward what the population growth will be in the county. For the city of Lompoc, it's somewhere between 60 and 65 thousand by the year 2050.

So our effort is going to be looking at how many, what's the population occupancy for each unit? Are we talking about 2.5 people, 3 people, three and a half people per unit? And then how does that extrapolate for the additional 20... So what we're going to be looking at is. We're going to have a combination of recommendations coming forward to you once we've taken all that information and see how that far horizon of a population of 65,000 people.

Yeah but again you're taking a pre-configured number and saying this is how we have to change our city to meet it so I'll keep asking this question as we go through but what if Lompoc can only hold 55,000 people and maintain its quality of life and without LAFCO won't let us expand? We can't get a bigger sphere. I mean, it's all wonderful we're putting that on a map but at some point reality has got to come to play so I'll just keep asking that question kind of fair warned.

And if I may just carry forward with that is you know obviously we all know what happened three and a half years ago with And so a lot of that had to do with how our policies were written and are existing. One of the challenges that came out of those hearings was you still have a lot of land built inside the city. The city doesn't agree with that.

History doesn't agree with that

exactly. So what we have to do is document and be proactive in responding to that comment. justifying infill development as well as the opportunity for growth in our sphere of influence and annexation. So it's a balancing act, we know what the challenges are other jurisdictions are dealing with the same challenge and so we will be anticipating when those sphere boundaries and annexation projects go to LAFCO we'll be prepared

Okay, I'll just make one more comment on that and then move on. I tend to disagree that the general plan was a reasonable blockade or whatever the right word is for LAFCO. LAFCO had their own agenda. That agenda was very heavily weighted on ag land They have arbitrarily fixed those in their mind. Now, I agree they're getting more flexible because they're getting driven in a box but I don't believe the Bodger development to blame our general plan is a little biased, I believe. But that's enough on that.

So could we make a policy or at least an understanding that if we fall 60 days behind We drove to get a schedule. I love your schedule. We want to get this done, and I believe the longer you do things the more it costs. So what I'd like is an understanding that if we fall 60 days behind, which is a pretty significant delay in my opinion, that you will come back to the council and tell us how we're going to recover that time. And I don't know if you can agree on this for me, but that's what I would kind of like to see.

And if I may respond to that comment. We spent most of the day today, not only with the consultants but many of the city staff leadership going over the effort that we will be putting into this general plan process and also looking at the calendar that you see above you and targeting We know how important it is to get that information and feedback. And so we'll keep you engaged. I believe that we're looking at an April meeting to come back to the City Council and get more information on that.

It's a great plan, I'm just saying life happens and then all of a sudden we're six months back and we're going wow how did we get there? I'd like to have a little bit earlier on that. And then I'm not sure I understood the branding. You have a branding already in Vision Lompoc? Are you suggesting you're going to change that branding?

The branding that we have currently is the one that you see here. It says Envision Lompoc, and that was our first phase. And we thought it would be important to make a distinction between that effort finishing up and the new effort that includes the logo or some reference to 2050. OK.

The only comment I would have on that It took me, personally I'm a slow guy but it took me a period of time before I recognized that kind of entity Envision Lompoc existed. Kind of outside the Lompoc website and obviously the purple part under the bottom housing element could change but I'd recommend you think about keeping the Envision Lompoc because A lot of money and energy has been spent fixing that in people's minds, and now I know where to go. And if all of a sudden it changes into something else, I'm a slow guy. It's going to take me awhile to figure that out again. So that would be my only suggestion on that. Thank you. That's a good plan. If

I can make some comments about the last 25 years in a general plan that we spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on, if not millions? In what happened in the last 25 years and our population basically had zero growth, 25 years. Probably the only central coast town or coastal town that saw level of a death spiral so to say without growth you will die. And we've been in that layers of stagnation you mentioned about infill. I would say probably at least 600 units of housing in the arena plan of infill are not going to happen.

We were also told, the previous council was told that you couldn't put the Bodger plan into the arena plan because it wasn't a guarantee of annexation. However as at the last LAFCO meeting they had stated that can be part of the overriding consideration for annexation cause it was part of your arena plan. That was a project that we should have had in the plan and would've been used as a potential to get us annexed another argument We are supposed to go back through and to see how our development is going with Rina And I don't think anybody from the Elks Lodge has come to the city to say we're ready to build our 50 60 housing units in our parking lot yet I Think I did but he heard any of that coming along, but no so what I'm getting at is our general plan in the past has been Really a death knell to our community and why that happened.

I'm not exactly sure I think we've had pretty I know there was an agenda by certain people to see that we had no growth. I do not and very successful of that component, but some of the catastrophes that happened when our as their school district that have this in the late 60s, we had 12,500 students in the local unified. I think we're around 9000 right now.

And it makes it very difficult for the schools to function this way. Also with the mandated poverty that came to our town, it also affects things like medical or hospital and a lot of places in capacity that they can't afford to operate. But our general plan in the past supported these movements and these measures. And now you're referencing SBCAG. So remember SBCAG? Those are the guys that I belong with about an airport land use plan that said we had 30,000 takeoff and landings at our airport.

So I don't know how many people have visited our airport to see what's not happening there, but that's probably off by a magnitude of 10 times. So very cautious about SPCAG likewise with the 900 housing units that were taken and removed out at the base. We know that those were generally our housing units, but SPCAG relocated them to the whole county, not to us which increase our impacts And also understanding that South County has an agenda because they have the jobs housing balance where they have over a surplus of 25,000 jobs in South County. And they would support workforce housing here.