BodyCity Council
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 May 19, 2026

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:02

Does it pay attention?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed0:32

Let's open the Lompoc City Council meeting for Tuesday, May 19th. Roll call please.

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Council Member Ball? Council Member Bridge? Present. Council Member Vega? Here. Mayor Pro Tem Dirk Starbuck? Present. Mayor James Mosby? Present.

So we're going to roll off into closed session first open up for oil communications Anybody lining up? Anybody out there? Hello. Nobody here? Okay, we'll close all communications and let everybody know we're going conference with labor negotiators. Do I need to report anything else? Okay. We'll be back sometime. Welcome to Lompoc City Council meeting Tuesday, May 19th.

630. Roll call.

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Council Member Ball? Present. Council Member Bridge? Here. Council Member Vega? Here. Mayor Pro Tem Dirk Starbuck? Present. Mayor James Mosby? Present.

City Attorney report on action taken in closed session.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:13

Mayor and Council, the City Council met in closed session to discuss the one labor negotiation item on the agenda. Council gave direction to staff. It was actually two bargaining groups. Council gave direction to staff but no reportable action was taken.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:29

Thank you. So with that we come with the invocation of Pastor Brian Halterman. Following that, the Pledge of Allegiance please stand?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:47

God of hope and wisdom, we thank you tonight for this community and for every person who has chosen this path of service and leadership. In a world that can so often feel divided, weary, and uncertain, we are reminded how deeply people still long for hope, stability, and a sense of belonging. So tonight we ask for your guidance upon this council, the city staff and all who serve this community.

Grant wisdom in every conversation, integrity in every decision and humility in every moment of leadership. Help those gathered here to look beyond personal interest or division and instead seek what truly strengthens the people of Lompoc. Teach us that real progress is rarely built through anger or opposition alone, but through listening, cooperation, compassion and the willingness to work together for something greater than ourselves.

We pray for those who serve our city every day—our police officers, firefighters, first responders, teachers, health care workers, volunteers and faith communities. Strengthen them when the work becomes heavy. Encourage them when their needs feel overwhelming. and remind them that even small acts of care

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed3:59

and integrity can profoundly change lives. Throughout all faiths, I am reminded that they consistently bring people together who otherwise would remain separated by fear, status, politics or backgrounds. Showing us that hope grows when people choose compassion over division and service over self-interest. May that same spirit guide this city, help us to find common ground where we can, wisdom where we differ and grace for one another along the way.

May the decisions made tonight move this community toward greater hope, greater trust and stronger future for all who call this city home. We offer this prayer with gratitude and humility.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:44

Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. Ready? Begin.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:56

One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:02

for all.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:12

Presentation, I guess the public works weeks. Who put everything out there? Craig Dierling's acting city manager today. Put all that stuff out there in the entrance.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed5:23

Our Public Works Department did. Do

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:26

you have anything you want to say about that real fast before we come over and give you a proclamation?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed5:29

Well maybe after you give the proclamation I'll say a few words.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:32

Okay, you'll fill it in. Well you're gonna say some afterwards for sure. Come to the podium. So National Public Works Week, May 17th through 23rd, 2026. Rooted in service powered by community. That's a good slogan, huh? Whereas public works professionals focus on infrastructure facilities and services that are vital importance to sustainable resilient communities and to the public health high quality of life well-being of the people of Lompoc. And whereas these infrastructure facilities and services could not be provided without the dedicated efforts of public works professionals who are maintenance workers mechanics engineers managers and employs all levels of government and private sector who are responsible for rebuilding, improving, and protecting our nation's roadways and transportation systems, storm drainage and flood control systems, water supply, water treatment, and solid waste systems.

Public buildings and other structures and facilities essential for our citizens. And whereas it's in the public interest for the citizens, civic leaders, and children in Lompoc to gain knowledge of and to maintain an ongoing interest and understanding of the importance of public works and public works programs in their respective communities, and whereas the year 2026 marks the 66th annual National Public Works Week sponsored by the American Public Works Association, Canadian Public Works Association. And it should be recognized as rooted in service powered by community.

I, the mayor do put my hand and you get a proclamation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed7:27

Thank you each for recognizing the crucial ways our public works enables our daily lives, from providing maintaining roadways and transportation systems to public buildings and facilities to vehicles and equipment the city uses to provide public service. Our dedicated Public Works professionals make possible much of what we each rely upon every day to enjoy a high quality of modern life.

On behalf of our Public Works staff serving in each of its seven divisions, including Airport, Engineering, Facilities Maintenance, Fleet Maintenance, Street Maintenance Transit and Urban Forestry. Thank you for entrusting us to serve you. Thank you for recognizing our service. Please also watch our new video playing in the City Hall lobby during daytime business hours and review the displays there which further communicate public works service to the city of Lompoc.

Tell us what you've got out in the lobby. So we have kind of an overall display of each of the seven public works divisions on the east wall, as well as a little bit of... so generally nationwide and I suppose in Canada too Public works is considered to include a lot of what in our city is under the utilities department, because those are also public works by legal definition.

Although our city has so many divisions already they didn't lump them all into the public works department. So we've got a little bit of utility stuff out there also on the East Wall. We also have some airports and transit, some street maintenance and some urban forestry displays and the video on the monitor.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed9:21

City manager report.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed9:27

So first up, I'm excited to announce that this year's Spring Yard Beautification Contest winners have been selected. Our Beautification and Appearance Commission judged 21 residential nominations, two business nominations and one church nomination last week, and selected 11 winners. The winners were selected from all across the city and included awards for several categories including the Residential Most Colorful Yard, the Overall Most Colorful Yard.

Thank you to all those who participated in this year's contest and to those who made nominations as well. For Parks and Recreation, I want to take a minute to thank the staff for hosting another well-attended Senior Health Expo at the Dick DeWeese Center last Friday, May 15th. This is a great resource for senior members of our community and their caregivers, and it had a great turnout this year with over 500 people attending.

Thank you to the Parks and Rec staff for your diligent work in ensuring the event ran smoothly. I'd like to encourage students ages 13-15 to apply for this summer's Volunteen program with the Parks and Rec Department. As part of this program, teens will acquire new skills, gain responsibility, and earn volunteer hours Those who submit an application must also pass an oral interview. Please reach out to the Parks and Rec Division with additional questions.

And lastly, for Parks and Rec I'm excited to share that registration for the summer drop-in camp is now open. Pre-registration for this camp is required and early registration is highly encouraged. The camp runs from 1215 to 515 p.m., Monday through Friday from June 15th through August 7th. Registration is available for kids ages 6 through 12. And as we just mentioned in the proclamation, if you visit the City Hall lobby this week, you can check out the National Public Works Week displays.

This year's theme, as the Mayor mentioned, is Rooted in Service Powered by Community and displays and activities are presented for each division of the department along with a video highlighting what each division does for the city. For the library, with summer coming up fast, libraries' Summer Reading Program This coming up, starting June 1st this year's theme is Plant a Seed Read.

The program is open to all ages. Community members can begin tracking reading minutes beginning May 26th via the BeanStack app website or at the library. Help us reach and exceed our community reading goal of 400,000 minutes. Also at the library, I'm happy to share that lunch at the library will return this summer. Meals will be provided for children and teens at the library through a partnership with the school district.

Meals are available on the youth patio from June 15th through July 31st Monday through Friday between 1 p.m. and 1 30 p. m. Along with the healthy meals there will be free activities provided most days at 2 p. Next, thank you to everyone who attended yesterday's State of the City event hosted in partnership with the Chamber of Commerce at the Dick DeWeese Center.

I counted over 50 attendees and the entire presentation can be viewed on the city's YouTube channel. And lastly, I'd like to remind everyone that City Hall and other city facilities will be closed this upcoming Monday May 25th in observance of the Memorial Day holiday. Like to wish everyone a safe and happy holiday weekend. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed13:07

Anybody have any quick questions

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed13:08

for Acting Councillor Boehme? I just had a quick question. Sorry to put you on the spot, I had a lady reach out to me and she works nights and it was like 7 in the morning and big loud noises outside she ran outside to see what was going on and they were digging a trench or something and they said hey it's City of Lompoc do we Do we have any policy in place for what time we're supposed to start or keep quiet until?

I'm not telling on anyone, I just want to know.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed13:33

Yeah my understanding is 7 a.m. is the start time for construction and similar loud noises.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed13:38

Okay thank you, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't 8 and we were starting too early so thank you for that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed13:43

On weekends it's later but weekdays 7am. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed13:47

Unless it's an emergency right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed13:49

I suppose so

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed13:49

yes. So I had a question for Mr. Alvaro who's not here, but I'll pass it through you through the city attorney and maybe he could fill us in. It was reported to me that we have a live mic in here. I didn't know about that until recently because I know sometimes people come up here and lean over to me and are saying something to me what was thought to be in confidence but very well might not be so maybe you can report out what's What's the deal with this new live mic that's in our council chambers?

Anybody? City attorney. No, you don't know either? All right well I just found out about it too a new live mic up here so nobody seems to know who's recording it where it's being recorded. You know something about it?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed14:39

Yes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed14:39

all right

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed14:40

So we have to have a mic there to pick up sound because if there is a delay of 30 seconds Without sound, the feed cuts off for the broadcast. So it's to pick up ambient type sounds just to keep the broadcast going. You're right. It is there. I believe we were working on making it less sensitive but its goal is to pick up those sounds.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed15:10

If anybody thinks you're coming up and talking to one of your council member in confidence, you probably aren't. Just to let you guys know. I don't know, it's a good question. Maybe have it in the bathroom or something, I don't know. Anyhow, I just want to report that out for the public to know so there's no secretness going on and everybody now knows. Forever let them know, right?

All right. No other questions from the city manager? Thank you Mr. Deerling, appreciate that. So now we're coming onto consent calendar Any public comment? Maximum of three minutes on consent calendar.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed15:50

Mayor, while we're waiting for any public comment I did need to announce that Council Member Starbuck will be recusing himself from item number two which is the check register. One or more of the checks is a check to this Lompoc Valley Chamber of Commerce. Council Member Starbuck has The item is on the consent calendar. Anybody else?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed16:42

So we have number one, which is approval of minutes. The Lompoc City Council regular meeting March 3rd, 2026. Approval and ratification of expenditures for payroll April 24th at $2.134 million. A voucher April 13-17, 2026, $942,000. I vote to register April 20th, 2024 or 2026 617,000. Number three is adoption of ordinance number 1745-26 zoning code amendments to chapter 17.316 signed standards TA 2025-0002 to allow certain feather signs construction sign and subdivision signs and to allow each tenant in multiple tenant buildings have one sign One per wall, per building facade occupied by the tenants.

Number four is adoption of resolution to call and give notice of general municipal elections on November 3rd, 2026. The request to Board of Supervisors to consolidate the election and adoption of City Council policy requiring payment of costs and deposits for candidate statements. And number five is the adoption of Resolution 68-1426 declaring the City Council's intention to levy assessments for fiscal year 26-27.

Preliminary approve an engineer's report and provide notice of a public hearing for Park Minutes and City Pool Assessment District Number 2002-01. Public comments? Go ahead, you have three minutes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed18:11

Thank you. Aaron Crocker, concerned citizen of Lompoc. I did want to comment on the agenda item number 3 pertaining to the sign code and code enforcement and all that. I was just reading through our current sign program that we have running here and then the adjustments that we want to make. We want to allow more feather flags and some construction signs, things like that.

And I read through the whole thing and we don't seem to permit signs of corruption and incompetence in our city council. It's on display for everybody for months. And I just find it odd that we're able to do that when it's not part of the current city code, and so I just have a concern that we have some illegal signage here on the City Council, and I just wanted to bring that to your attention. I wasn't sure if you were aware.

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed19:16

Anybody

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed19:17

else? I know you love seeing me, Mayor. And let's go! First off, I'm going to have a moment of silence for our shooting victims in California and San Diego at the mosque. All right, let's get into it. I'm not going to talk about Bridges a lot. Everyone knows he's a criminal. He's still sitting on the court—on the City Council. The judge is gonna make you face your crimes now so it's gonna be adorable.

Real men, they take accountability and they step down when they've done something wrong. City Council if you don't censure him or sue to get his income back I'll be surprised. You need to take care of that on the other side. If you guys want to talk me I'll talk to you about it. Now let's talk about the firefighters of Lompoc. Last week we had an average of 7,500 hours of overtime reported.

Some of the years were worse than that. So you take those 7,500 hours and split it between the four people they requested you guys hire. It ends up about 1,875 hours for anyone who actually works for a living. That's a 36-hour week for the new hires. It would cut the cost of overtime from $300,000 to $200,000. With that extra 100K and the bonus hours that the other firefighters have, they could probably do training and get more engineers, get more experienced help and more veterancy in their corps.

A hundred K is a lot of money and the city could do amazing things with our fire force with the extra 100K per year. And that's just starting. And that's just assuming we're paying $26 to $27 an hour, and let's face it new starting firefighters are not going to be paid that. I'm not a manager anymore, I used to manage businesses. When hiring's not a problem, it's the HR that's the source. So last week we had Jeremy Ball claim he wasn't attacking the city manager over anything but if it's their job to hire someone and they've not then that is a failure.

And Mr. Vega earlier, he stated we're not here to be liked, we're here to get stuff done. You stated last meeting that it's taken five years and there's not been a change in Fire Force so you successfully done one of those things You've got us to not like you, congratulations on that. Now we wanna see you get something done. So with Indeed, ZipRecruiter, numerous apps to find employment, you can't help our firefighters cut this ridiculous abuse of spending?

Maybe it's time or get off the pot and Vega as they said it's a hot mic up there probably watch what you're saying when you have thieves sitting beside you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed22:14

Consent calendar, public comment on consent calendars. Items one through five.

GuestLillian StreepPublic DefenderProposedself-stated22:20

For item number three regarding the financial decisions. Good evening my name is Lillian Streep and I am a long time resident of Lompoc, a public defender investigator and a licensed fiduciary. As a fiduciary, I am legally and ethically required to act in the best interest of the people that I serve. Ethics are not optional in my profession. Integrity is not optional in my profession.

Public trust is not optional. And I think it's interesting that Councilmember Starbuck would recuse himself for having a financial conflict But the other members who have conflicts would not. So I'm struggling to understand how this council can continue operating as though nothing is happening after months of being asked to act. Now, after a judge has determined there is enough evidence for multiple felony charges against a sitting council member to proceed to trial These are not whispers or rumors.

These are not social media accusations. These are serious criminal allegations involving forgery, grand theft, misappropriations of public funds, identity theft, fraud directly connected to public service and public trust. And yet silence For months, silence. It has become apparent that your silence is making a clear statement to tolerate this conduct without meaningful response condones the idea that ethical standards are conditional accountability is optional and the public's trust is expendable This is unacceptable.

If someone in my profession were facing allegations of stealing from the people they were sworn to protect, we would not simply continue business as usual and pretend this situation does not exist. We would immediately be scrutinized because the integrity of the institution matters. Moreover, we would likely be removed from serving while the matter was addressed.

Because public trust matters. This council should understand that allowing us to continue without decisive action damages not only the reputation of this city, but public confidence in local government itself. Whether you realize it or not, your inaction is communicating something to this community So, I will leave you with this. What matters more? Comfort or integrity?

Political loyalty or ethical responsibility? And what becomes more dangerous to a community? One person accused of corruption or the people willing to ignore it? The firefighters deserve better. The business owners in this community deserve better. Every one of them deserves

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed26:09

that. Once again, this is public comment on consent calendar. It's items 1 through 5. That was

GuestLillian StreepPublic DefenderProposedself-stated26:18

item 3?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed26:19

Yeah, I guess so. Seeing nobody else rise on items one through five, we'll close public comment break up to council. I had a question on item number four maybe somebody... And that's on page three in the middle of the page you guys You guys in the middle of that is going to be the city clerk on that one. Item number four, which are the city manager who wants to take the question?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed27:18

I'm happy to write down the question. I don't know if I know the answer

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed27:21

though. So here's in the staff report, page three and the reason why I ask this is ballots cast November 20th 2020 there were 22,208 ballots cast and it says there was 19,147 registered voters so not sure how they were 22,208 ballots cast with 19,147 but In the middle of the staff report here. Is that a typo, or what did we have? Did we know what the number is?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed27:54

I don't know myself. I would guess it's an error in at least one of those two numbers.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed28:02

Are you able to get a point of clarification on that? I don't know if we want to pass something with a number like that in there. Mr. City Attorney, can you help me with that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed28:15

I don't think that a typo in the chart would affect whether the council should pass the resolution to call the election in November. But if you wanted us to bring back information about which one of those numbers is a typo, then we could.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed28:35

Can you repeat where you're looking at this?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed28:38

Right here in the middle of this on page three. November 2020. 22,208 ballots cast and 19,000

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed28:47

issued. It's most likely a typo.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed28:50

I hope it is. So you shouldn't have any problem with us approving it? Should we make the recommendation to approve with a correct number? I don't think the math works out at $1.94 per vote.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed29:08

Right. This chart is not in the resolution, this is just explaining what the fiscal impact of the cost of the election is and what the costs were historically so in order to call the election you do not need to correct this table but you could ask that it be corrected.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed29:26

All right. Anybody else have any other quick questions on that or does anyone want to pull any of these items? You may want to make a motion for approving consent or whatever. Motion by Starbuck-Fireway, what's your motion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed29:58

Go ahead and accept the consent calendar.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed30:00

With the recommendations from the attorney, correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed30:04

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed30:05

And it coming back with clarification later on that number? Is there anything else we needed on that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed30:09

Sure I just wanted to note again that Council Member Starbuck is recused from item two

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed30:14

Okay. So motion by Starbuck, seconded by Ball, let's go ahead and vote. Starbuck, back vote. There we

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed30:30

go.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed30:31

Push, push! And that passes 5-0. So moving along... No staff announcements, presentations or otherwise? Correct? One thing I could ask, and we have a number of these that are stacking up lately in the council request items that you can pass it forward to maybe try to get some of these through. We've got some that have been on the books for awhile yet. Some are real simple ones so just to pass on as far as staff presentations. So brings us to appointments correct?

You got one Council Member Ball, is that correct? There's oral communications for that. Oh okay I'm sorry about that. Good job. Oral communication is three minutes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed31:34

Mayor, Council, Nick Gonzales, resident of Lompoc. Several years ago there was discussions on a major expansion of the shelter. I came across them in my old notes and so I just would like to get some clarification because I know we had a pretty big joint meeting where we had some county representatives and I didn't know what the exact takeaway was if we were actually...if the city was continuing with that expansion or if that had...if I'm sorry. I printed these documents, but I don't know if I didn't see that they came out small So I'll try to email you what I actually had but I got five copies for each one of you You know if the clerk doesn't mind passing that to each one of the council members and then also I've spoken at the Planning Commission meeting, I had attended and I think I might have even come up here before a presentation by Vandenberg Space Force Base.

And as a former member of the planning

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed32:41

commission... The clock's not rolling on for some reason.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed32:47

As a former member of the Planning Commission, I know how important when you're doing a general plan update it is to incorporate all material facts and information. We have representatives from Vandenberg and I believe that at a presentation the other day it was also presented at a chamber meeting that there are potential and it seems to be pretty concrete of an expansion of 10,000 jobs I look in the audience and say, I see some of our firemen. I see our police.

That expansion of jobs could fundamentally change the finances of this city. And I think it's imperative that we plan for this change, that we incorporate this change into our general plan and to our business models, and to every aspect of the city, and fully embrace it so that we're not here fighting one another. We're figuring out how to prosper together. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed33:51

Anybody else?

CommentKathy HowardProposedself-stated34:00

I'm Kathy Howard. I'm a resident of Lompoc. And I think all of us know that in this country, we are considered innocent until we're convicted. And Councilman Bradgett is under felony charges where he is being held felony charges. That's a pretty serious situation for this council to be in when an elected councilman is still sitting on the council and voting on measures that are important to this city, and the council itself has not taken any moves or steps to resolve this, and Councilman Bridge has not either.

I would appreciate it if the council in this situation would look at a way to ask Councilman Bridge to step down and hold his position until this thing is determined one way or the other, and not put these votes in jeopardy. We don't know what that all means, and I would like to not have to find out. Councilman Bridge, you also have the option to resign which is the only option right now I trust that you will do the right thing. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed35:27

Howdy. The other day, I was renting a car down here at Enterprise. Talked to the brand new manager and he said... And I walked out to get the car. Bugs all over the front end of the cars. What's going on? Dirty car. He says it's his first day at work He went back there to try and wash a car behind Enterprise. Lompoc police come up, said you can't do that because you ain't got a catch basin. You're not a car wash back here.

Basically stopped the guy from washing cars. Didn't think much about it until I was getting gassy of the day. Then I look out in the parking lot and there's three vans pulled out in the parking lot out there on H Street washing cars Then I come to find out, you know, our car washes have to have catch basins. They have to have filtration. All this stuff they're supposed to have because the stuff's not supposed to go down storm drains.

So if we are holding our businesses to a standard and these people are paying taxes to us, you know, and fees to the city, why are we not going after people out there that are doing stuff the wrong way? And stopping that because I'm pretty sure they're probably If they're not licensed, you're not getting sales tax. And on top of that, they're an environmental hazard. So what's going on with that? I mean this here in my personal opinion needs to be addressed because by ignoring these people out here doing it that way we are actually harming our business owners and our business owners are putting more income into the city I'm asking the Council to do something, look into it, whatever needs to be done to figure out what's going on because it's not fair.

I'm not a business owner but fair is fair. Number two, Mr. Bridge once again just like the third time I'll say it, I really think you should take a leave of absence. Hold your position, take care of what you need to take care of. If you're innocent great, happy for you. The lady did make a good point. There's a lot of mistrust in the public with you sitting there, okay? And it would be better for this city and this council overall if you weren't sitting there. Maybe if you could get an intern council member or someone to sit there in your place appointed but the public mistrust is there that yes, you are innocent until proven guilty but there's still perception, okay?

That you're in the wrong, okay? Plain and simple. And I guess I'll say it again, I think you should take a leave of absence to take care of your business. If you're innocent come back, we'll applaud you but if it goes the other way, I apologize, that's what happens. But at this point, I think the best action is you not sitting there anymore, thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed38:39

Hello Council, it's me again. I wore this tonight because I just really wanted to match the vibe of our council right now. It feels like a big clown car up here, so I figured I've been to enough of these and I've talked and said my piece a few times and none of y'all seem to be doing much about it so I'm just going to try and match your vibe and just go with the whole clown shtick because that seems to be what we're doing. Speaking of clown shtick, I wanted to read something that Mayor Mosby said yesterday This is at the State of the City. He said, I have to say right off the bat, the state of the city of Lompoc is good and getting better.

We're turning the corner and moving forward fast. We've been kind of stagnant for a while but we are moving forward and getting better. With all due respect, bullshit! None of y'all has said a word Save for one council member about the situation that I've talked about, hundreds of people have talked about. It doesn't make us look good and to the gentleman who spoke before me agree 100%.

Innocent until proven guilty but perception is the problem. Nobody wants to take anything y'all say seriously right now because it's a bunch of clowns up here. Telling jokes, laughing when I walk up here in an outfit that you wear every day. I'm tired of it. I know a lot of people in this town are. I know there's people that didn't come tonight because they're discouraged because they've been to so many meetings already and have said their piece and nobody has done anything about it. So they're thinking why show up?

Sometimes I feel that way, too. And then I put on this great outfit here and told my kids I'd be back real quick and dad just has to go be a clown for the city for a minute. Just wanted to join you guys in that so thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed41:09

All right, so my grandma taught me not to talk to crooks and try and negotiate with crooks. So I'm going to try and talk to the will of the council. During we've all put up a vote a few weeks ago you all voted against it. Maybe it's time to have that revote now that we know the court situation? Now that he's openly said in court that the reason he did it was for his son so he should be reclused from criminal charges basically admitting his crime charges.

No? So I know that Mosby's your boy, so he's not going to side with us. So I'm going to talk to Vega, Starbuck and Ball. There are three of you against two of them. You want to get something done Vega? You want to not be liked and we're gonna get stuff done? Well vote for it! Dirk, you were good enough to recluse yourself in the last vote. You know that there's unfair situations where there shouldn't be people on this council who are voting on something Jeremy, you've been doing work as much as you can but it's 1v4 man. I don't know what to tell you.

It's never a fair situation. But I asked the council to really look at itself. Do you guys want to be the clowns proving him right? Mosby, I don'y know if you can save your reputation after that outburst with Stahl but it would probably improve your reputation if you held him accountable for his theft huh? For watching out for his son over this city even though that's not his job I'm a father, man. I understand what you did, Bridge. I wouldn't do it myself because I'm not a thief.

I care about my community but I do understand what you did and why you did it. Still not right and you're still probably going to go to jail or at least catch a fine for it. Let's talk about lawsuits. You lost a lot of money to this man. You guys want to tax us? You want to cut from the fire force? Why not sue this man? Get our money back, huh? I probably be a good move. Yeah, we have a city lawyer over here who said it was okay that the you know the votes can't be perfect all the time It's just a misprint We can just make a vote on all this uncounted vote system If you have bonus votes probably don't vote on it Probably just hold it off until you have an accurate count The fact that you guys just openly voted on something that you knew had way too many votes for it What does that say?

We vote on elections that have 40% extra votes now. On paper, you exposed them for it but you didn't hold them accountable for it. You as a lawyer think that's okay to vote on something because it's a misprint? You can't hold it off for two weeks?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed43:40

You need to direct the council.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed43:42

Anyway, part of the city. I'm not sure we can hold you accountable so I'm trying to speak to the people since you guys won't do your jobs. Have a good night.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed43:54

Anybody else?

CommentAlexis OteroProposedself-stated44:04

Good evening, everybody. My name is Alexis Otero and I was coming to speak about something totally different but I guess I just want to spend a little bit of my time talking about how people are feeling about the integrity of our governed body. And I think that ultimately this just kind of comes down Like in the future, we should look at how like I think the reason this is as big of a fuss as it is because we don't really have anything on the books for how to deal with a situation like this. And so I guess I would ask the council to maybe work with like the city attorney to have kind of like a protocol of sorts for when we have somebody who's going through, you know any kind of legal dispute. That way the people feel like they're being appropriately represented because I feel like that's really what the heart of the issue is.

People want to have trust in their government and in the people who Are meant to, you know represent them. And so I'm not here tonight to speak on anybody's guilt or innocence But I think this is definitely like a good opportunity for the city to kind of like You know make plans for how future generations of City Councilors deal with situations similar to this one Now kind of on to what I came to talk about. I wanted to come and thank everybody who works in our public work section, and I wanted to give a huge shout out to the awesome display that's outside.

The city wouldn't run without our wonderful staff, our city staff and stuff. So I just wanted to come and say that it was really cool and everybody should go and get a good look. Yeah, that's all. And stay cool. It's supposed to be quite hot over the next week. Support the local library. Be active in your community. Thank you guys. Have a good night!

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed46:33

Karen Hallenstein I was born here in Lompoc now that the amateur clown show is over. I want to thank this City Council for not bowing to bullying and partisan pressure from obviously Colluding in staged individuals. I want to talk about real corruption, real corruption. I've had to deal with most of my life watching the cartel, the Mexican cartels own Lompoc through our Lompoc Police Department allowing large scale money laundering in our valley that is no Secret.

We have a problem with law enforcement and constructive, honest investigations by law enforcement in our Valley specifically in relation to the deaths of two other women from Lompoc. Liliana Zuniga and Jasmine Montague. Now, Liliana died inside the Lompoc police station After being held there for four days, not transferred to the sheriff's office jail as is procedure.

But held there and then she was found dead in her cell at around 715 in the morning on a Monday morning. That was on the 13th of March 2023 and we have not heard anything at all about the explanation or the investigation, because there hasn't been any. Now what really is interesting to me is that the jailer, Jay Hernandez wasn't even an officer yet. I used to work in custody and you don't get promoted after you lose a charge that you were in charge of watching This individual, though, got promoted twice with fanfare.

She didn't even get reprimanded for somebody dying on her watch. The sheriff's office has not been forthcoming on either the death of Liliana or Jasmine Montague. Jasmine Montague was murdered in September of 2023 and was unceremoniously dumped outside of town so the Lompoc Police Department wouldn't be the jurisdiction on that case. I'll complete my statement later, thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed49:39

you. Any other oral communications? Seeing nobody rise we'll close that. Now we'll bring back to appointments. Council Member Ball?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed49:52

Yes, I would like to nominate Alexis Otero for what has been a long vacancy in my Parks and Recreation Commission. So I'd like to nominate her for that seat.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed50:13

Get your motion. Motion by Ball, seconded by Starbuck. Let's go ahead and vote. Yeehaw! You're on. Thank you. 5-0. Do you have anything you want to say? Sometimes we'll let people have something to say. We'll let you have a chance since you're here.

CommentAlexis OteroProposedself-stated50:42

Hi, guys. I'm so excited to be our new Parks and Rec Commissioner. I cannot wait to introduce all kinds of new fun activities and work with our local urban forestry and stuff like that to make our city beautiful and enjoyable and engage the youth and people who would otherwise stay home and all of the beauty that we have to offer here in this city. So thank you so much for appointing me council, and I promise not to let you guys down. Yeah, thanks.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed51:25

Very good. Welcome aboard. I think Councilor Ball, I think you still have a Utility Commission position open too don't you? I think?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed51:36

Good evening

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed51:37

honorable mayor, city council.

PresenterChanel OvalleCommunity Development Program ManagerProposedself-stated51:55

Staff and members of our community, my name is Chanel Ovalle and I serve as the Community Development Program Manager. Tonight we are here conducting a public hearing to present the proposed Community Development Block Grant commonly known as CDBG in Human Service Program Budget. I'm seeking Council's approval of the budget and authorization to submit it with the fiscal year 2026-2027 action plan to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, known as HUD.

The primary objective of the CDBG program is to support the development of viable communities by providing a decent, safe and suitable living environment for low and moderately low income persons. There are several important funding criteria that guide both programs. CDBG funds may not replace any state or city funded functions. Human service donations must be used strictly for human service activities and cannot be used for administrative costs.

Funding must directly benefit low and moderate income persons, and expenditures not in compliance with HUD must be reimbursed from the city's general fund. The program budget is supported by three primary funding sources, the HUD CDBG Entitlement Grant, CDBG Program Income and Human Service Donations. For the upcoming fiscal year 2026-27, the City of Lompoc is scheduled to receive $467,000 $176 in CDBG entitlement funds from HUD.

Federal guidelines allow up to 20% of this allocation to be used for program administration and up to 15% for human service activities with the remaining funds dedicated to eligible ADA capital projects. CDBG program income for 26-27 grant year is also subject to the 20% cap for administrative use. Staff is recommending that the remaining program income be directed toward capital project investments that benefit the community.

Human service donations generated through voluntary contributions Contributions from utility customers along with the $25,000 allocation approved by City Council are restricted exclusively for human service activities and may not be used for program administration. So as stated as before, 20% of the CDBG funds may be used for program administration. Staff is recommending City Council allocate $111,958 to support the program administration for the year.

This funding will cover salaries, UAL and essential program supplies and will support the management of CDBG activities, loan servicing, affordable housing monitoring and the Fair Housing Program. Staff is also recommending Council approve $327,757 in capital project funding to continue advancing the ADA improvements across public facilities. An important investment in accessibility and community inclusion.

In addition, staff recommends allocating $50,000 to Catholic Charities to continue the Housing and Mobile Home Emergency Repair Grant Program which helps stabilize existing housing for vulnerable residents And finally, staff is recommending $115,000 toward human services as outlined on the screen and supported by both staff and the Human Service Commission.

Tonight, we are here to conducting a public hearing to consider approval of the 2026-27 annual action plan for submission to HUD. The draft plan was made available for public review in both English and Spanish at the Lompoc Library Anderson Recreation Center on the city's website and in the Lompoc record throughout a 30 day public comment period which concludes this evening May 19th.

After council receives public comment, staff recommends council approve the budget and recommendations as presented. Your approval this evening ensures that we continue providing meaningful, compliant and impactful services to our community. This concludes my presentation. Thank you for your time. I am available for questions.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed57:20

Questions, questions? Councillor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed57:23

Boehme. Yeah a couple quick questions maybe just one but so on the funds that go towards improving the parks capital improvement 88 etc is there if this gets passed is their plan and how much things are expensive but what will that we get what does the city get for those funds in our parks

PresenterChanel OvalleCommunity Development Program ManagerProposedself-stated57:42

So currently we are working on Ryan Parks ADA accessible stage. And then we also have in the works, um, even though the Ryan Park bathrooms were just re um, were updated. We're also looking at possibly including additional stalls and some all inclusive playgrounds throughout our community. Awesome. Thank you for

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed58:06

that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed58:09

The questions Nobody yet? Have a seat, and we'll open this up to public comment and then bring you back potentially. Public comment on this item. Item number seven.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed58:34

Mayor, City Council, Nick Gonzalez, resident of Lompoc. I think each and every time we have this budget, I come in here and I sing the same song. I really hope that sometime in the future that we can direct the largest portion of those funds directly to the human services aspect of this community. The funds do ... I have to commend staff, we've done some really great capital improvement projects but sometimes I feel that those capital improvement projects really should be handled internally within the department like parks and recreation The intent of the program is explained, and I know that some of the recipients have multi-million dollar budgets. I'd also like to see some of those funds go to some of our smaller groups Who struggle to get financing for the services they provide to the community.

Some of those groups have annual budgets in excess of $30 million. So when I see $30,000, I think it's not really material in the big picture. Whereas $30k to one of the smaller local groups that provides services... Again these are suggestions. I'm not cutting down the current plan. I'm just saying there's lots of other community members who would be significantly more impactful in that fashion. Thank you.

GuestLillian StreepPublic DefenderProposedself-stated1:00:17

I'm going to amend my previous comment. I was commenting on item two, not three. This one is seven. So the parks have been updated beautifully. I know that there was funds from the CDBG grant back in around COVID times. They look great. It's awesome that we're gonna add more. It would be really awesome if there was a little more conversation about how those funds get spent.

So it's concerning that there was only one council member who seemed fully invested in this grant, and perhaps there is someone who would like to give another person who has a little more oomph concern Integrity. To stand up for the city, not just for themselves, not for their friends.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:01:31

Yes, public comment on this item. See nobody else rise will close public comment bringing back to the council any questions deliberations motions? Somebody wants to make a motion? I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:01:48

had a quick question. Oh, quick question. Okay, Council Member Hall. And forgive me, I'm not saying this is what we can or should do at least at this moment but I do hear the member that spoke. How flexible might this be in the future? Should...I mean would the council have the authority to say well let's skip a year on improving parks and any of that stuff and let's redirect all that towards One of HUD's regulations that we presented to City Council and also to our community is that there is a 15%

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PresenterChanel OvalleCommunity Development Program ManagerProposedself-stated1:02:28

Max that is stated by HUD, not the city or council that we can use toward human service. Toward human services so there's no change in that Council cannot change that staff cannot change that as far as putting the capital funding toward ADA public facilities that too is in place now for five years City Council approved that last year with our consolidated plan So every year we will be getting funding for the next five years and it will be put toward ADA public service, public facilities. Council can when they put their two-year budgets together for their CIP that's where you would want to be saying like exactly things that you want to have done because the CDBG program supplements those to get those activities completed. And then I'd like to also just remind Council and our public that every year we put in our paper and on our website, and we invite the public to come out and speak and tell us things that you'd like to see in our community.

This is public funding, and we make sure that our public, our community Everybody gets to really feel and see and have a part of it. And again, about October of every single year I've been here 23 years we invite the public by in our social media also on our website and in our local newspaper inviting our community to come out and let us know what they're seeing and what they'd like to see funding spent on

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:04:18

And one more follow-up question. To the point, you know I know there's some regulations both internally and probably from the feds about how we have to audit those who are asking for human services funds and that becomes pretty complicated but a plain devil's advocate to some of those maybe smaller groups that are really helpful if you had any advice for smaller groups that either don't qualify or don't know to come and even ask What kind of advice would you give to some of these smaller groups to potentially be considered or what would they need to do to be considered?

PresenterChanel OvalleCommunity Development Program ManagerProposedself-stated1:04:51

So they would first have to be a 5013 non-profit, and they would have to have two years of filed tax returns. They'd also have to have a board. And if there's any other questions regarding their agency and maybe the type of support they would like from the CDBG program, I would invite them to talk to me. We do post every October for people to come out Come to a workshop where we're able to tell them about how to apply and who would qualify, and how we could help them qualify.

And I just think people should just be in contact. They can contact me. Email, phone, come in the office. I'm usually available.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:05:38

Perfect. And I may follow up just because, you know, I don't disagree at all. I do think that somebody with a big budget, the amount of money they're getting, I'm not sure they could show a lot for that considering how much of a budget they have. A smaller group that's trying to be super efficient and boots on the ground perhaps might be able to leverage some of those funds but obviously they have to qualify and be audited and so forth. But I'll learn more from you and I'd love to ask people in the community that are doing good work to maybe get in touch with you to see how they might be considered.

PresenterChanel OvalleCommunity Development Program ManagerProposedself-stated1:06:07

Thank you so

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:06:08

much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:06:12

Isn't it because you've been doing such a good job we got a little extra money? Is that one of

PresenterChanel OvalleCommunity Development Program ManagerProposedself-stated1:06:16

the... Well, every year it seems that we are receiving less money and I think that's just the way things are going with the government. So every year we're receiving a little bit less but very honestly the City of Lompoc and its staff are meeting all of its deadlines in all of its reports and a lot of that has to do with our community with our non-profits so they are regulated to have to Submit accomplishment information to us in the way that they receive it and document. It is also regulated by HUD so Big props to our community

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:06:55

getting a little bit more of the little bit less because you're doing a good job

PresenterChanel OvalleCommunity Development Program ManagerProposedself-stated1:06:59

Thank You,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:06:59

okay Okay back to the motion any more questions motion Motion by Vegas second my ball. What's your motion councilman Vega? Proof staff making the motion

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:07:11

approved

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:07:15

You want to approve 1 through 4? Is that what we're doing?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:07:18

Yes, sir. Does

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:07:21

that do it for us, city attorney? That's a head nod yes. So we've got a motion and a second. Let's go ahead and vote. And that passes 5-0.

PresenterChanel OvalleCommunity Development Program ManagerProposedself-stated1:07:37

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:07:40

Do you want to take a one hour break? Just kidding. You're already stacking up. I was checking to see if Council Member Vega was listening. All righty then, item number eight that's the 2025 Urban Water Management Plan and Water Shortage Contingency Plan and potentially the adoption of resolution 6816 parentheses 26. Kristen Whirley is Senior Administrative Analyst

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:08:12

Yeah, you pretty much said everything I was going to say in my introduction.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:08:15

OK. Well?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:08:16

I am here to present the Urban Water Management Plan for 2025 and ask that you recommend it be submitted for adoption and then submitted to the California Department of Water Resources. I can summarize the plan quickly. And then I also want to take the opportunity for public comment. And then if you have any questions, I welcome to field those as well. So the Urban Water Management Plan documents the current water supply and delivery system. The city relies solely on groundwater from the Santa Ynez River Valley Groundwater Basin. It also plans for current and future water use in the community. It is required by the Urban Water Management Planning Act. The plan has 10 sections, and it is available to be viewed on the City website which we can show you where that is right now.

It's on the utility website underwater and you'll see the 2025 Urban Water Management Plan. And she'll click on it. Okay, the first section of the introduction provides an overview of the plan and the sections section describes the coordination and outreach conducted as part of the plans so we work with adjacent agencies Vandenberg Village Mission Hills the county so that we all are coordinating our water use The third area, as we described the service area.

So the city provides water to approximately 44,570 people. The fourth section describes the city's current and projected demand through 2050. Water use in the city in 2025 was 3,761 acre feet. Water use in the city is projected to be 4,182 acre feet by 2050, an increase of about 11%. The fifth section, the plan demonstrates the city is compliant with water conservation regulations.

The succession of the plan assesses the water reliability. The city will continue to rely on groundwater. This basin is managed through the San Ynez River Valley Groundwater Basins Western Management Area Groundwater Sustainability Plan, and that is a mouthful. But that is basically if you've heard of SGMA which is a groundwater management act that allows groundwater to be managed locally.

The seventh, which is the most important section for us, is based on all the analysis that we have done for this plan. The city expects the groundwater supply to be sufficient to meet projected demand. The eighth section, which is the report that has to be approved separately, is a section that is the plan in case of a drought emergency and that gives us This is a summary of things that require residents to save water. That is a little different than the ninth section which explains the city's ongoing and regular programs for conservation, which we have a very robust conservation program that keeps us in top tier The 10th is a notice of the public hearing and adoptions. With that summary, does anybody have any questions? Does the public want to make any comments?

It's a very long plan and you're welcome to read it on the website.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:12:12

So on page ES2, it says that the city provides water service to approximately 44,570 people. Does that include the prison number? I know many times it's conflicted when we say our population of the city sometimes it includes a prison and sometimes it doesn't. Do you know if that number is inclusive because we don't yet provide water to the prison do we?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:12:37

So that number is providing to our residents. And I don't think it's not going to provide, we're not going to say that we provide water to people that we don't provide water to.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:12:47

So I think that actually includes the prison number but we don't give water to the prison yet? If I remember correctly. We don't take wastewater from them either, but they are in the city limits so I think that you might want some clarification on that number?

CommentKathy HowardProposedself-stated1:13:00

Sure.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:13:02

I don't know if that would conflict with the other numbers and calculations of everything else through the document on the per capitas because it does say further down in here that's one of our hopes is to provide water to the prison. But another one on page 3-1, I know our water plant used to be able to make 10 million gallons a day. And it has in here that we can only do 7500 gallons a minute. Does that work out to that 10 million gallon per day number? We used to always do back gallons per day.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:13:43

I'm not at this time going to do these calculations in my head, but I'm happy to get this information back to you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:13:50

It's just kind of funny how we always did the, I get the GPM but I think it's. I know we have one well that's not working right and one that's been put to sleep but we're looking at building, drilling another well as well so I think the last I talked to the super at water we were just almost at that 10 million still anyhow that is a point of clarification. So getting back to the regional growth numbers So sitting on the SB CAG board, I asked them where do you guys get the numbers? Because we're getting numbers. We're referring that we use SB CAG. They said I get it from your planning department.

Okay so they asked the planning department where are you guys getting them from and first answer was from SB CAG. So it's this little circle and then is like well it's actually from 2010 report. And as we've stated in so many times have stated and I know Relatively new to the radar, this potential growth component which will be much larger than we're talking about.

Not saying we need to put it in here but we know the roar and the rumor is we're going to get a lot more people potentially if we do it right then what we're talking so looking ahead again I'm not trying To move anything on that, but I'm not sure who gave you the statement on 3.7, but it says that we're rezoning and small area plans to accommodate lower income housing targets.

Really our biggest target we're missing is the above moderate they were doing a lot of stuff for so I'm not sure

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:15:30

yeah

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:15:32

who gave that point of clarification?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:15:36

Yeah, no it's fine. I do think there are some standard documents that they do pull from for a lot of this information and I think all of that is in the plan of where they've cited all the resources.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:15:51

It does on 4-9 again you reference the intertie to Vandenberg Space Force Base and the intertie could present opportunity steps ongoing daily sales. And it says, of course on this page on 4-9, it says and the Lompoc Federal Correctional Institution. So I think that confirms we're not... I know in the late 80s, we were looking at taking wastewater from the prison and then people, oh no, we don't want their wastewater so it didn't happen. But without a doubt, I think it'd be a good idea because we need to actually sell more water so we don' have to raise the rates. I was told I could say that until people don't waste it but let's sell some more water.

And then I found this interesting, because I've heard this happening. But the LRWRP is currently evaluating the feasibility of accepting wastewater from Mission Hills CSD. So I don't know where that is coming from. I know there was a rumor that that was happening. Your document says it's happening. I thought that was interesting and you think the council would know we're moving forward? I know it was one of my anticipations for moving the SOIs the way we are because in order to do that, it's better if we already encompassed in this sphere of influence lines.

One of the discussions I had probably six or seven years ago, we had a powwow meeting in here with the water board people and it was the county water... What did he call himself? We were in the drought aspect. And then we were discussing about Kona depressions of the aquifer. It's something that we're gonna have to get ahead of should we hit the next drought time.

He was able to accept this, and Larry Bean who was the utility director at that time agreed as well that in drought situations our water from the wastewater plant will actually flow backwards upstream. Because of the Kona depression in the aquifer we're actually recharging the basin from our wastewater plant at some level. The complexity was to get an engineer to accept this But there are days when we're actually discharging more water at the wastewater plant than we're pulling out of the aquifer. Now granted, for a lot it does go down and keep the saltwater intrusion coming in but it's something we probably should look at.

Right now we're in good shape but should we get to that point where we're mandated what is level five? The forced conservation and... Sounded like a rocket. If we're actually lined up already in this, we won't be the two or three years out So just as a... Is that a rocket?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:18:55

It's a

PresenterChanel OvalleCommunity Development Program ManagerProposedself-stated1:18:55

train.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:18:57

Trains are on Thursdays. It's at Minuteman they're launching right now, yeah. There's supposed to be one, anyhow. All right. Again, on 6-12, it may be some of these discussions we should be bringing to the council as well. And that is exploring the possibility of integrated facilities operation within the basin through interconnection amongst each of the three water distribution systems because I know people at the Vanderbilt Village Community Service District are all upset of our conversation about sphere of influence. There's several groups that are thinking we're trying I think it's important that we embrace them. And the more we set these things up and bring them to the public's eyes to discuss them, I mean they are here deep in the dark.

That's why I'm just trying to bring it to light of some of the things that are maybe at the smallest level of discussion but maybe we need to step them up a little bit and invite We're initiating discussion, but they're not at the table. I ran out of time today or would have come seen you. I apologize. I usually do. That's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:20:24

OK. A

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:20:24

little bit behind so I apologize. I think that was just about it. But I think one of the biggest things is we need to initiate that potential evaluation of the engineering studies, showing in a drought situation that would potentially get kind of the reverse percolation. It was the county hydrologist that was there at that meeting that we were discussing and the former head of the Santa Ynez River Irrigation District as well.

If I can just ask a question to the city attorney about conservation pricing At one time, we were actually told that you can't raise prices to force conservation. Six or seven years ago it was expressed as such but in this document it does state that we're actually raised the rates if you use more water? Is that an okay practice as far as you are aware of?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:21:30

to raise the rates in order to encourage conservation?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:21:33

Yes, that's an example. You use 0-10 it's 4.33, 11-20 is 4.63 and 21 and over it's 5.53 so that's per 100 cubic feet 748 gallons but according this we raised the price to force people to conserve

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:21:52

Yeah, there would need to be some analysis backing that up to ensure that you're only charging cost of service. So I guess if the highest rate is the cost of service and then the lower rates are a discount, I think that would probably pass muster but...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:22:09

It says conservation pricing is designed to discourage wasteful water habits. Well we don't want people to waste but, you know, and encourage conservation so maybe we need to See what that study says. I mean, we're in a predicament right now. We need people to use more water and enjoy quality of life. There's millions of gallons of water going into the river right now or going into the ocean.

But what ends up happening is people in Lompoc for three decades, we've been really good about conserving water. We were kind of ahead of the curve. So when it came to SLAMOS to conserve more water, we already had 95% of the shower heads already changed out and almost that many percent of the toilets. So we're already at this really low level. But the complexity comes when people keep conserving, then we need more money for the wastewater facility because that affects that as well.

So then we have to raise rates and the more we conserve, we have to raise the rates more. We conserve more and what I've noticed is a number of people out there only using one or two units of water a month. I don't know how they're getting by with it but We're in a position right now that we're in very good shape with water in the aquifer, and we need to actually enjoy quality of life. Don't waste it but go ahead and this little game of if it's yellow let it mellow and brown flush it down. Go ahead and flood. We could use a little more water flow at the wastewater plant. Bear with me only a couple more things here.

I think that was the biggest nutshell of them that I had concerns with. Let me go to Council Member Bull.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:23:59

Yeah, just add one thing I wanted to mention but just as a side. Bob what's our annual budget? Total money we spend as a city every year roughly or two-year cycle whatever you want And again, I'll maybe follow up with you offline. But I just looked it up because we just had a rocket launch. So every time they launch a SpaceX, one rocket costs $74 million. We do that about 100 times this year which I found pretty interesting. My big point is I hope we can connect the dots and get some more community benefit from that group because that's a lot of money.

You if I may, can I just want to you kind of glossed over it but obviously we're doing really well with conservation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:24:45

Oh yes we do very very well with conservation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:24:48

But we're still we're not just dead in the water pun intended we're still moving forward on some ideas oh

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:24:53

yeah

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:24:53

mentioned recycled water can you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:24:55

elaborate

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:24:55

on that a little

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:24:56

bit? Well we do have the capacity to do that but the expense is really high right now and it doesn't afford us It's not cost effective. I just want to say, I appreciate your comments. I think that this plan is a great way to open up those conversations and I just want

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:25:26

to emphasize that this is a requirement by the state of California just to ensure

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:25:30

that the residents of Lompoc We have a plan for the next five years. Report that we have to do, the water shortage contingency plan. But yeah, having those extra conversations I think is a great idea. This however does facilitate the requirement that the city has to the state. So it's all been done per state requirements, all the analysis was done, all the references of where they're supposed to get the data to make sure we've got it calculated appropriately has been done so...

I just want to emphasize that.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:26:52

And pumping it in the aquifer way up there, and they determined that wasn't feasible. One of the purple pipe study was running purple pipe to like parks, to irrigate pipes. In the economic analysis it wasn't cost justified to do that expense so we did look at and review that. I know the sales of the water to the handful of people who were needing it was not significant enough to really trigger I would like to caution you to go back and look at the numbers. What people don't recognize or maybe we sometimes lose sight

CommentCouncil Member BullProposed · by introduction1:27:27

of is these numbers take a life

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:27:43

I'm sorry. Oh, they take a life of their own

CommentCouncil Member BullProposed · by introduction1:27:45

numbers take a life of their own and the next thing you know we're getting a state mandating requirement based on some number that got put in some document somewhere. I think the last one we saw of that elk was We were going to be 60,000 people by 2030 and that drove a whole bunch of airport restrictions. So I think it's a great plan you've put a lot of work into it but I think it'd be worth just another pass to make sure the numbers that are being called out that are pulled from I'm sure a reasonable source but have passed the smell test is what I say yeah so I would just encourage that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:28:27

Absolutely. And we can do that and the process allows that to be done, you can still adopt the resolution and then we can have minor edits to the program so it doesn't necessarily delay the adoption of the plan.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:28:44

Because you have a time crunch on this correct? Correct.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:28:46

When is this

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:28:47

supposed to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:28:48

be in by? July 1st.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:28:57

Yeah, I would just like to make a motion to...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:28:59

I gotta go to public comment first. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:29:01

thought we did public comment?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:29:03

Go for it. Let me call for public comment on this item. Anybody want to rise and speak on this item? Item number eight, the urban water management plan. Did you want to come up? Yes! Are you going to come up because she'll step out of your way. She'll share the microphone.

CommentAlexis OteroProposedself-stated1:29:29

Hi guys, Alexis Otero. So I just wanted to mention the thing about like oh we did really well in our water conservation and so that might affect the prices that people might pay because you know they didn't earn enough money or whatever My partner is from New Mexico and PNW, which is their water and electricity management company out in New Mexico. They tried that when there was a conservation effort for water and electricity.

And so the people of New Mexico had, like the people of Lompoc did, a little too good of a job To recover for their financial shortcomings because people weren't buying their electricity, the electric company ended up having to charge more. Seeing that happen in New Mexico it was wildly ... I cannot even express how unpopular it was with people. And so just, you know before Like making any decision tonight. Just you know people are already struggling enough Energy is already expensive and I would just kind of be hesitant to you know punish people for doing a good thing we were careful with our water and Yeah, just you know just something to think about

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:31:00

Anybody else Seeing no one else rise, we'll close public comment. I just had two more questions or statements that might be good to add into the conversation. One is how much water goes to the ocean every year cumulatively? I know the data's there. I think it would be important too when we see as the 1969 Lompoc project that was going to happen, the dam that was gonna be up here and the conservation component that I think it's important to see the full equation, but also as well. I think a charter graph and they're talking about the per capita water consumption of our neighbors so we can see where we are. I know we're one of the best in the state if I remember right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:31:49

Yes, we are.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:31:50

Yeah I mean compared to like Montecito or Santa Barbara

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:31:54

I would like to make a motion

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:32:23

The seconded by Evol. Did you want to also do the...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:32:28

Water shortage contingency plan.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:32:31

And that's inclusive in that? Okay. Would you like to do it separately, or are we going to do one-by-one? All together?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:32:38

No, it's all on the same resolution.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:32:40

Okay, because she kind of made it sound like we had to do twice, but that's alright.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:32:44

Yeah, sorry.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:32:44

Alright, we're good. That fails 5-0. Just kidding! See if you were paying attention.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:33:01

Yeah, thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:33:02

All right, you got a plan. Thank you. This is down to written communications Any written communications?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:33:24

Yes, there was one letter received from Ms. Molly Gerald and it was provided to council and provided outside for the public and is posted on the website.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:33:38

Okay, oral communications two minutes. Two minutes, come on down.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:33:53

Karen Hauenstein, I'm gonna finish my comments from earlier because. Okay so yesterday I shared this post on my Facebook cause I was up at Harris Grade and I took a picture of this memorial that's been set up there where Jasmine's body was found, Jasmine Montague. And it had a reach of 5600 people in less than 24 hours 332 reactions, comments and shares. I got contacted by people from the community who had information never been questioned by law enforcement of course because this isn't really being investigated.

This is extremely concerning. This has to do with deaths, suspicious deaths in our valley This is Jasmine. I'm going to come up here and remind all of us, some of us don't need reminders that the cartel, Mexican cartel has been controlling our valley and washing money through our valley for quite some time. I am going to remind us about that now every time I come up here And hopefully things will change and we'll get the dead weight off of the Lompoc Police Department. There's a lot of dead weight on the police department, you can go run people's names and see when the last time they testified in court or if they've ever testified in court. I beg to wonder what they're doing if they're not testifying in court We've got a lot of people on the LPD.

You never see them anymore. You don't see them on the streets.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:36:08

Mayor, City Council, Nick Gonzalez, resident. So once again I'm going to be the cheerleader. Whatever is necessary for you to get someone from the city to start having immediate contact with the representative from Vandenberg Space Force Base and start to get very intimate with whatever their long-term planning goals are specifically when it comes Those jobs. If I were anyone who had any viable business within the city, who were city employees, city bargaining units I would be all over it to ensure that we do everything possible within the city to make this city the safest, cleanest, most business-friendly, over-the-counter place possible over the next four years so that we can capture as much of that inflow of higher earning income individuals to come in and become part of this community.

One only needs to sit at the intersection of the main gate to see how many people are commuting from two different locations. Way back in the day, it was principally from Lompoc. Today there's a line sometimes over the hill coming in from Orkut and Santa Maria. And I know we all work hard but we need to do a better job especially if you expect something from the city then you need to do your part to make this city a better place.

And I'm willing as a community member to participate in any kind of forum or public gathering, but please let's do this, let's incorporate it and let's make it better for everybody here in the community. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:38:11

Water? Just brought up a question in my head because last time I was out at River Park walking around, I see a lot of hoses going down into the river bed. And there's active faucets there that the homeless are using for water. Is this allowed? Just curious. Police Chief, C Street and College, not college but as you're going from Laurel to on C Street or D Street There is a white wall there that's got Southsider mark on it.

That's gangland right there, just want to let you know. It's the three dashes right at the lower end of the white wall so it's Southsiders trying to claim territory I think. I just wanted to bring your attention. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:39:13

We'll close oral communications and move on. Council comments? Minor reports? Councilor Ball, you want to go first?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:39:24

Sure. Fire away. Okay. Bob I get to follow up with you. And I really have a point with this. Yeah

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:39:30

we just had about $140 million in expenditures last fiscal year

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:39:35

Last fiscal year.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:39:36

Yeah, 60 million general fund about 80 million among the enterprise funds.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:39:42

So I just want to give some context for folks that like a couple missile launches maybe happens three days apart they spend more money on that than the whole city does for at least a year, right? That's pretty crazy. My point with that is that SpaceX is big and Mr. Gonzales, you made a point that there's a lot of growth that's happening out there on base. A lot of these folks are now members of our Chamber of Commerce so I hope that we as a city can be creative and start to imagine better partnerships where we do get community benefit. There's a lot of investment in money being spent out on base and some of those folks have helped other communities My only council request, and I feel like I'm kind of a broken record here.

But since day one, I've thought it's serious. I know if I was faced with allegations there would be a line out the door of people demanding me to step down and it's funny when the shoe is on the other foot how that dissipates so quickly. So I apologize to council to put them on the spot But now we have a sitting city council person that has moved from some allegations, there's actually been a judge who reviewed all of the evidence.

The council has also seen and the judge decided that there was sufficient evidence for this to go to trial. It doesn't mean that someone is guilty they're entitled to their defense But this is getting serious. In all I've ever asked this council, I didn't ask them to find a way to expel. I didn't ask them to pass their own judgment. I only asked for council support for staff to come back to educate this council on what we can and might consider doing when this happens So I'm going to do it again and we'll see.

I'm not that hopeful, but I think it's the right thing to do. And I know if the shoe was on the other foot, that would definitely happen to me. So I am asking for council support for staff to bring back an item or two where we might consider censure We're stripping a council person of their assigned responsibilities where they're out representing the city of Lompoc in an official way.

So that would be my council request, and this is the third time I've asked so that's about as clear as I can make it. So I'll see if there's support this time. All right thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:43:06

No reports. Council Member Vega? I'd like to thank everyone that stayed here tonight, all the public safety people. I think you guys are doing a great job and thanks to the fire department back there for sticking around for this meeting. Everyone's input is so important. So anyway, thank you very much until the next time.

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CommentCouncil Member BullProposed · by introduction1:43:35

Council Member

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:43:36

Bridge?

CommentCouncil Member BullProposed · by introduction1:43:41

Mayor, I support your concern about all the TBDs that are on our action item list. We have one here that was first requested in 9-3-24. It was originally then scheduled for February then March and now it's gone back to TPD. Which one is that? Landfill life cycle. There are several that just have disappeared. The review of the tow companies, that was scheduled for May 19th and now it's gone.

There is the parking

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:44:26

award. Can the city attorney explain why that one is no longer on the list? The towing service agreement contract?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:44:35

I don't know why it's no longer on the list, but we are still working on that and we're going to bring it back within the next few

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:44:41

weeks.

CommentCouncil Member BullProposed · by introduction1:44:55

I have several here. I'm not looking to have them answer tonight. Dean's not here, but I think it's important that if this is our action item list that we don't just lose action items. We had the...I believe I heard the translation services coming back soon The time card one, we had the presentation. But the agreement that I remember was it would come back and be presented to us so it shouldn't just disappear.

There's the OPI presentation. There's the police not enforcing the ordinance. That was a council request some weeks ago. And I'm not suggesting it should be scheduled but it should be at least on the list. And then I guess we got another week for their restrooms unless they get done. So I'd really recommend that we pay some attention to this action item list and start clearing things out. We're out here tonight at 815.

We could have killed a couple of these, I think. So that's my comment to the staff.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:46:05

Question for the city attorney. If items are removed from this list what is the way that items can be moved from the list?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:46:14

How are items removed from

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:46:15

the list? What's a legitimate way if three of us put it on the list, how does it fall off the list? Is there any level legitimacy that items just fall off the list.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:46:28

I would think that the only reason they should come off the list is if the item is taken to council.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:46:34

Okay. Maybe I could... Make a request that we investigate what items have disappeared and see that they get back on the list. Do I need to make it formally? Can I get three head nods to do that? It's something that we should already do, but I've noticed some things that are off the list as well that have evaporated. If I can get three head nods, is there something you could review for us?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:47:02

I'm not quite sure that that's a city attorney's office item, but the city manager's office could.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:47:08

City Manager, do I get a thumb up? Do I get three head nods that we can... You know one to get it third. I got Starbucks, I got Bridge. Can you do that for us and make sure that the things that haven't... We could get things moving. I'm still waiting for the exciting rate of return on the electric. Might wait on that for a few months but everybody else is just on the edge of their seat for that one.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:47:34

One thing that would help us, and I appreciate the things that you mentioned tonight of items that you don't see here that you believe should be on the list. But if there are any others that you didn't mention that you believe should be on the list, if you could let us know, that'll help our work in getting the list complete.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:47:49

OK. I will as well for sure. Yes? I'm sorry, Council Member Ruggiero, were you done? Yes. So I attended the SBCEC sub-regional LAFCO meeting representing City of Lompoc, as well as the Planning Commission meeting. I went to the senior event. I want to thank the PIO for stepping up and helping me put together and scramble. I know you just got back from vacation, and I appreciate what you did for us in helping put the State of the City event together. Thank you all for that as well as the people who ran this senior event.

It was definitely well attended. I made this before. It wasn't a two-day event, but there wasn't a parking place available except way on out I have asked questions about the car washes. I've actually submitted a number of photos with the people with car washes, and I've actually caught people in my parking lots doing car washes without BTCs. I actually found out that the city was hiring somebody to do car washes who didn't have an active BTC. It's actually is in the check register. We actually gave them a check, and they didn't even have a BTC with the City Business Tax Certificate.

What I found astonishing is yesterday There was somebody right here in this parking lot giving a car wash, and they said they were doing it for somebody with the DA's office over here. I thought that was kind of interesting. They're blocking about eight parking places over here. Now there are just ways that they can do it publicly, and they have to go through it. I have allowed on some of my properties to have car washes. They have to have the right soap. There's ways they went through there. I made sure that they had a note saying what they were doing was the right soap, and they were able to do that into the stormwater, but that was not a for-profit person.

Without making it a full council request, if it could be looked into. Because parking lots are for parking in and I see this when there's right across the street from a full viable commercial businesses doing car washes by Carl's Jr., four or five, six, seven of these guys. And we're getting more and more that are coming from out of area in here because Warmore lacks on them than I think Santa Maria is.

So I'm seeing him Every day, just about every day I'm having to kick one out of one of my places that I own that's washing a neighbor's car in my parking lot. So I'm not going to make it as a council request but if you guys... You're hearing me, right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:50:18

We can pass along code enforcement.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:50:19

Yeah, pass it along and it's... I think there was actually a video on it. Hopefully he was using the right soap over here washing the chief's car or something over here but... You all right? You all right? You didn't say nothing. I'm sure you did the right thing. You'll take care of it. No, because you've got to use the right soap. Good. Then we're good. Thumbs up. With that, we'll adjourn this meeting to a regular meeting at 630 PM June 2nd.