BodyCity Council
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 August 4, 2026

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Roll call, called by Alice Patino · 1 under review
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I would like to note that the interpreter for this evening is Antonio Bravo. Please raise your hand, and Mr. Bravo is seated in the back. So if you would like listening devices or interpretation, you can see Mr. Bravo I'd like to call this meeting to order for the City Council meeting of August 4th, 2026. Madam Clerk can you please call the roll? Council Member Aguilera. Here. Council Member Batalla. Council Member Soto? Here. Mayor Pro Tem Flores? Here. And Mayor Patino? Here
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ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role3:48

City Attorney Mr. Watson, would you give us the closed session report?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:51

Yes Madam Mayor with respect to items 3a and 3b instructions were provided to the agency negotiators no further report will be necessary

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role4:00

Thank you.

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ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role4:01

Next item on the agenda is a presentation regarding the Summer of 2026 Hometown Heroes to be presented by the Director of Recreation and Parks, Mr. Ramon Gallo. Mr. Gallo?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:17

Good evening Madam Mayor and Council Members I would like to defer this presentation to Recreation Services Manager Dennis Smitherman

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role4:25

Thank you. Good evening Mr. Smitherman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:27

Good evening Madam Mayor, Council Members and thank you again for 10 wonderful years of support for this program. We are excited to have over 250 hometown heroes been represented all either past military current military and unfortunately some of those we will be honoring who are no longer with us

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role4:48

Mr. Smitherman, before you start there's people sitting in the back and there's room here up front for any of the hometown heroes and their families so we've got the first row open here sort of like church everybody likes to sit in back but there is room up front

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:09

Thank you, Madam Mayor. The U.S. Armed Forces include Air Force, Army, Coast Guard, Marine Corps and the U. S. Navy. Since the inception we had our 250 heroes but we've also included some of our frontline during those during the COVID years so we're well over 300 individuals that you have honored Each hometown hero receives a certificate presented by the mayor and is recognized with a commemorative banner hanging on College Drive. Those new banners are now up, so please drive by and take a look.

We do have quite a group here tonight that I'm excited to say, so I'll get right into it. Our first representative from the US Army is Luis Gutierrez. Luis was nominated by his wife, Fela, and we thank him for his service. If he would like to come up, and Mayor if you'd like to come down? And Fela's here to accept the certificate tonight. Next up we have Robert Loya from the Marine Corps. Robert was nominated by his wife, Carolina Laya.

We do have a Purple Heart recipient with us. It's Antonio Velasquez. Antonio was a Marine. His brother and sister-in-law, Miguel and Mimi Velasquez are accepting on his behalf or coming up on his behalf. From the US Army we have Herb Adams Also from the US Army, Terry Stafford. We have from the U.S. Army, Timothy Simmons. We have Jordan Retske from the U. S. Navy.

He's being represented tonight. Jordan couldn't be here with us tonight. He is at the Pentagon. This is his dad. And it doesn't go far from there, U.S. Air Force Brian Retzke. Thank you very much. Please join me with one more round of applause for our class, 2008 Class of Hometown Heroes. On behalf of the City of Santa Maria and the entire community, we thank each of you for your courage, sacrifice and service.

Your contributions will not be forgotten and we are proud to recognize you as a Santa Maria hometown hero. Thank you.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role10:15

Thank you all, your hometown heroes and what you've done for our country and what you've done for our community. And to the wives and family they gave up so much and have done so much also in our community and they need to be thanked. Thank you again Thank you. The next presentation Tonight I wanted to share this year's summary of the 4th of July response and enforcement efforts from the Santa Maria Fire Department in conjunction with help from our Police Department.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed12:16

This year Sanrio Fire Department responded to a total of 53 incidents in the 24-hour period between 0800 hours on the 4th of July to 0800 on the 5th of July. This included 11 responses to fires, 9 determined to be firework related within the city limits. Crews responded quickly and efficiently minimizing the fire activity. I am pleased to report no large fires involving residential or commercial structures were reported that evening.

Santa Maria Fire Department crews also responded to 25 calls for medical assistance. There were five injuries reported directly related to the misuse of fireworks, two of those hand injuries and one person reported knocked unconscious. Regarding enforcement, Santa Maria Police Department joined efforts with our fire department The fireworks enforcement detail began on Thursday, July 2nd with teams from the fire and PD.

Despite these added resources responding to every complaint was not possible. Firework enforcement operations occurred on all three nights through Saturday, July 4th. The directive for officers and fire investigators was to be proactive and cite any witnessed violations. Having fire prevention staff with police officers was a crucial part of the success and we look forward to continuing the partnership.

The aerial technology was able to fly a little lower this year than usual, provided all footage to fire investigations. A total of 118 administrative citations has been mailed to responsible property owners and identified violators. 93 citations were issued from the proactive patrol, from the fire detail with our officers and fire investigators.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed14:02

An additional 25 citations were issued after fire investigators reviewed airplane firework footage taken over the weekend. Fireworks complaints began early to mid-June. During the two-week period between June 25th and July 5th, Santa Maria PD dispatch received 287 calls for service regarding fireworks. PD dispatch triaged those calls each night. They weren't able to assign individual calls for service unless an exact address was actually identified.

PD Patrol eventually responded to many of those incidents, but Santa Maria Police Department dispatch was directed to transfer calls to the firework hotline if the caller did not have an exact address or lead that could be investigated. Calls into the firework hotline started mid-June from June 25th to July 5th. 160 voicemails were left on that line. A spreadsheet was created and shared with fire investigators for follow up.

The fire marshal issued 51 warning letters to residents where our teams were unable to address the report immediately. As in past years, there was substantial number of illegal fireworks that were set off throughout the city consistently from about 6 p.m. to 12 a.m on the 4th of July. The use of illegal fireworks within city limits is a problem we're all trying to solve. Significant life-altering injuries were sustained this year by our residents.

The fire department will continue its prevention efforts through education, partnership with Santa Maria Police Department and contract with the third party patrol to patrol the skies on the 4th of July to deter and continue to hopefully reduce the use of illegal fireworks in the years to come. I want to thank Chief Williams and his staff for their support in putting together some of this information that I've been able to share with you this evening.

I also ask for your continued support and welcome any suggestions for consideration for our future enforcement efforts. That concludes my presentation, open for questions.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role16:11

Thank you Fire Chief Dandridge. Any questions? Thank you,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed16:16

Madam Mayor. Ms. Flores? Chief, how was it determined for the citations? How did that come about? Can you explain that to us?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed16:25

Mayor Pro Tem Flores, yes ma'am. What we've determined is we had teams and the teams that were dispatched out with PD officers and fire investigators if they were able to witness visibly witness and record we had recording also Those initiated a citation. Also from the aerial perspective, we have the aerial operations that have GPS capability that will pinpoint exactly where launches are seen to have originated And we correlate those with the corresponding addresses. And then citations are issued, those 25 citations are issued that way.

As with every citation, Mayor Pro Tem Flores that were issued this year as in previous years, the residents have the opportunity to contest. They go to the fire department they'll review and they'll have conversation with our fire marshals actually with us this evening. If he could provide any additional information, but they have the opportunity to contest those citations and we review it and ensure that they're appropriate to be issued.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed17:37

Okay, so when you show up and you know that they're setting off illegal fireworks are they approached and said and told something or because the last time Chief Williams said no. That they don't do anything they just noted and then you guys issue a citation

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed17:57

Yes ma'am, that would be correct. What Chief Williams and I have determined is safety of our personnel. What we've done is in the fire service, I can't, I don't feel comfortable safety of our fire personnel sending three unarmed individuals into a block party where there may be possible intoxication involved in these block parties, we didn't think it would be safe for our personnel to confront at that time. That would be a law enforcement effort. I didn't think our firefighters were trained to that level.

I don't want to speak for Chief Williams if I may ask him to come to the podium if he'd like to answer why he has elected to choose what he has done

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed18:41

He's already explained that to me. So my other question is to you, is that so we just go and you're talking about the block parties that are going on right? Do they take out a permit for a block party or they can just have a block party?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed19:01

I will defer Jim do you mind?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed19:08

Thank you Chief Dandridge, Mayor and Council. So we use the Social Host Ordinance in the Municipal Code and we only have to on view the illegal action on said property It doesn't require us to make contact. And as Chief Dandridge, and I'm sure Chief Williams will state these areas are they have large gatherings. So this year we had three permitted block parties. We witnessed numerous additional unpermitted block parties. So you would see A block or two, multiple individuals gathering and barbecuing and doing the typical Fourth of July thing. But in the middle of that you would have aerial fireworks going off from the sidewalks, from the streets, from the front yards.

And so the direction that I gave to our units in the field, so it would be a police officer paired with a fire investigator is if you can on view and be confident of the violation without putting yourself in harm's way. So we always talk situational awareness. And there's more to just, you know, looking, you know, the moth to the flame kind of thing. Keep an eye on your periphery because it's very active on those blocks and I personally was on a couple of the blocks I don't really need to identify them, but I would see 150 individuals or so up and down the block.

And from safe and sane to dozens of aerial launches from illegal fireworks. So again we on view it if we can confirm the address then we will issue the citation to the property owner or whoever's responsible for the property. So if they rent we can determine that through utility records.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed21:13

But that's after the show that we get, right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed21:16

Yes. After the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed21:17

fireworks going everywhere

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed21:18

and all hours of the night,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed21:20

right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed21:20

During it, we witness it and we document our address. We do a quick statement what we call probable cause so I saw two male subjects dressed this way in the front yard ignite an illegal firework and it created multiple launches. So that will be our probable statement of cause. And then from there, the following week and it between the lost count but 100 or so are 93 I think she said.

Those are the first ones we do, and so will go we identify the property owner. We go through utility records and determine if someone else is renting the property. And then we have to create cases in the database, each one takes about a half an hour to do but then that will issue, we will issue that administrative citation at that time. The aerial enforcement, it takes about two weeks for them to break down the data into individual parcels for us.

But then once we receive that, we review each one and if we feel there's probable cause and we can determine illegal launches were coming off at this address then process starts all over again. We will issue that property owner or responsible party citation.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role22:43

All right, thank you. You're welcome.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed22:48

Any other questions? I do. Thank you. I know that the last time that we briefly touched on fireworks, I think it was before the 4th of July, we were talking about the fines that other cities implement and I think we gave the example of like the city of Oxnard and how they have an increase of fine Their fines are higher than what the city of Santa Maria fines for illegal firework activity. And so I'm curious if there's been any progress on that front?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed23:22

Thank you, Tom. In order to respond I did have Casey Stone my assistant city attorney do a full memorandum on that there was a change in the Attorney General opinion that said that because of the conjunction of two statutes that are both potentially violated by unlawful fireworks you can increase the fine to $2,000 so we're preparing an ordinance to do that for your review and but we wanted to get the cars from these other jurisdictions and look at them first. But he did do a full evaluation, we believe that it's legally

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed23:58

sound. Great

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role24:03

thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed24:04

Thank

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role24:05

you. We will now present the business of the quarter and Council Member Soto will be making the presentation along with the Chamber of Commerce.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed24:22

Thank you so much. Good evening, Madam Mayor and Council Members. On behalf of the City of Santa Maria in partnership with the Santa Maria Valley Chamber it's my pleasure to recognize Signs of Success as our Business of the Quarter. Since 1990, Signs of Success has grown from a small local sign shop into a 20-employee company handling architectural and commercial signage across California.

Drive around Santa Maria and you'll see their work City buses, utility fleet, Allan Hancock College, Marion Regional Medical Center and the new Hall of Fame walls at Gragetti and Santa Maria High. The growth didn't happen by accident it came from skilled project management investment in the latest fabrication technology and a real commitment to training and promoting from within Please join me in congratulating Jordan Shepard, president of Signs of Success and the whole team behind him. 36 years in they're still building Santa Maria identity one sign at a time

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role26:01

Good evening Mr. Shepherd, congratulations.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed26:03

Thank you Mayor. Good evening mayor and council members. On behalf of everyone at Signs of Success thank you to the chamber and to the city for this recognition it really means a great deal to us Signs of Success has had the privilege of serving the community for over 35 years. During that time, we've been fortunate to work with businesses and schools, hospitals, nonprofits and public agencies to help them tell their story and better serve those who are walking through their doors.

This recognition really belongs to our team, their craftsmanship and dedication to doing things the right way is why our business has been a success. Thank you for your support and we're proud to continue serving the Santa Maria Valley.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role26:58

You know, I do have a question now Fire Chief Dandridge and it may not be for you. It may be for Chief Williams. So we're planning on getting the drones because the drones that we had were just for the day sort of like a date okay? And so I guess my question is once we get the drones that we're expecting because we have these outrageous fireworks going off starting in May And so I guess as soon as we get calls, we would start using them.

Is there any plan on that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed27:36

Madam Mayor, thank you for the question. I'm going to defer that answer to Chief Williams who's gonna be in charge of those drones.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role27:42

Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed27:43

Good evening Mayor, City Council. Christopher Williams your Police Chief. Yes that is a possibility once we bring the agreement to the city council for approval on the drone first responder program we will outline what the police department's goals and objectives are One of them being to include enforcement for fireworks violations, and it'll be the council's desire if they want to support that or if they want to restrict that to certain higher priority calls such as in progress violent calls. Several jurisdictions, if you recall when I did the presentation on the drone first responder program Agencies like Elk Grove to the north of us do use that and actually use some of the collections of the fines to help support the expense of the Drone First Responder Program.

So short answer, yes as long as it's a desire of the council to allow that as one of the parameters for the response.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role28:48

Thank you. Our city attorney, could we possibly the fines? So you've got the period of the fireworks say July. Okay so could we possibly when people start setting these off in April or May could the fine be accelerated or is it just I'll probably have some more questions after I go to sleep tonight, so but I won't call you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed29:13

I'll wait till tomorrow Thank you

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ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role29:36

So the next item on the agenda is public comment. Madam Clerk, will you please read the criteria?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role29:41

Yes, Madam Mayor speakers may provide public comments on any matter within the subject matter jurisdiction of the City Council each speaker will be limited to three minutes maximum 15 minutes for public comment period unless a majority of the council objects the mayor may provide speakers more or less time to speak All comments or queries shall be addressed to the Council as a body and not to any specific member thereof. Pursuant to Government Code Section 54954-2A2, the Ralph M Brown Act no action or discussion by the City Council shall be undertaken on any item not appearing on the posted agenda except to briefly provide information, ask for clarification, provide direction to staff or schedule a matter for a future meeting. For those on Zoom and wishing to speak during public comment please use the raise your hand feature or by pressing star nine on your keypad when it's your turn I will let you know when it is your time to speak and please unmute yourself at that time.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role30:40

Thank you so I have Gary Hall followed by Addison Sage

PresenterGary Hallnorth Santa Barbara County ManufacturedProposedself-stated31:01

Good evening, Madam Mayor. By the way we can't hear hardly anything in the back so if there's a way to turn it

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role31:08

up... I'm sorry.

PresenterGary Hallnorth Santa Barbara County ManufacturedProposedself-stated31:10

Council members staff and citizens of Santa Maria my name is Gary Hall. I'm a resident of Rancho Buena Vista Mobile Estates at 2135 North Railroad Avenue here in Santa Maria. I represent the north Santa Barbara County Manufactured Homeowners Team or NISBET Nesbitt's primary goal remains to provide protection to all Santa Maria mobile home residents presently living in an unregulated rental market.

Yes, we continue to ask the City of Santa Maria to stand with us in maintaining affordable housing Affordable mobile home living is vanishing here in Santa Maria and all across the state. I was encouraged at the June 16th City Council meeting when I heard both council members Soto and council member Batalla Voice support for bringing forward a discussion of the mobile home lease and enforcement agreement.

Thank you both. I am hopeful that their action will soon open the door to exposing the flaws that are embedded in the two documents, and also expose how far those documents miss the goal of maintaining affordable mobile home housing which of course was what they were intended to do. I continue to believe that now is the time to take action, to replace the model lease with a uniform mandatory enforceable mobile home rent stabilization program much like those in our neighboring city and county jurisdictions.

Now let me once again acknowledge and thank the Santa Maria Community Development Department personnel for developing the Senior Mobile Home Park Zoning Overlay Ordinance And I'll have additional comments on that later in the meeting. Thank you.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role33:02

Thank you, Addison Sage

CommentAddison SageProposedself-stated33:19

I can't actually see the time. There's some kind of notification pop up over it.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role33:24

Yes, we have a technical difficulty on the visual time but there is an audio time and

CommentAddison SageProposedself-stated33:29

you'll see

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role33:30

it turn orange there when you have one

CommentAddison SageProposedself-stated33:32

minute. Thank you. All right. Greetings and thanks to all present here today for this opportunity to speak. My name is Addison Sage. I've been a teacher here in Santa Maria for seven years I want to address something important to me and probably many here. I'm going to start by naming the problem, giving its relevance and then the possible solutions. The problem is clear and obvious to anyone who's lived here for more than a year.

Theft and vandalization in Santa Maria is stymieing growth and it's preventing deeper investment Although there is no spike in related crimes, the continued flat level of these crimes means the current city's vision for Santa Maria remains clouded and uncertain. New businesses here in the city have faced an average of five acts of burglary and theft in their first year of business.

This applies to the newest businesses here, including Central Coast Collectibles, Sprouts, and multiple new businesses on the Skyway and Orchid Expressway areas that the city I know is deeply invested in. The relevance is that the city very clearly wants us to become more than just a big box stop on your way to Santa Barbara, or a bedroom community for the working class of the beach towns.

But how can we become more than that when business owners and even homeowners feel a lack of security in investing here? I can see in Grant that the City Council here has done impressive things for the growth of the city. And in the early stages of cleaning up downtown. But none of those things will last if we do not attempt to manage security. New businesses may flock here and replace ones that we deem seedy and undesirable, but they're not going to stay if we don't address the problem.

For example, this past Friday a drug-addled man in a mask stole a forklift and drove it into the reinforced barred windows of Central Coast Collectibles and stole thousands of dollars in merchandise. The shop owner comes to us from Lompoc where the owner decided to branch out to our community and offer a safe and clean place for people to enjoy board games and cards together.

It's one of the finest shops of its kind I've ever seen, and yet the owner now considers whether business here is worth their suffering. I know these problems are not easy to solve. We're talking about solving crime right? It's not simple. So I offer solutions that have had solvency in other places. One, help the victims of such crimes. Offer assistance in repairs, protection from further events and even free advertising by the city to recoup lost profits.

Two, reduce the demand on law enforcement for pettier crimes such as loitering, public nuisance and noise ordinance calls. This is called triage.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role36:38

Go ahead and continue, Mr. Sage.

CommentAddison SageProposedself-stated36:40

I'm almost done. That's fine. Three, offer more assistance to distressed areas while your work towards the city center and Skyway is commendable and beautiful we must also help the distressed parts of Santa Maria too so that economic desperation does not drive them to desperate acts thank you for your time.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role37:01

Thank you very much That concludes public comment. And Madam Clerk, anything on Zoom?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role37:13

We do not have any hands raised on

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role37:15

Zoom, no. Thank you. Now we'll move onto the consent calendar. Does anyone have Okay move on to the consent calendar and Mister Stephens.

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PresenterCraig StevensCity of Santa Maria forProposedself-stated38:05

Thank you very much. And I'm sorry that I was late in turning in the form. My name is Craig Stevens, I'm the owner with my son of SM Tire and first of all we'd like to thank you very much for your business. We've done business with the City of Santa Maria for many many years and we sincerely appreciate it. We don't take any business for granted at all. We're excited that we're May 15th with our 80th year in business in Santa Maria, I think I look pretty good for 110 but long story short I've owned the business for 43 years but very fortunate to do business in the Santa Maria and in locations on the Central Coast The only point that we're really trying to make is when there's awarding of professional services, we hope that you consider the things that all of our local employees have done for many years.

We have the only most people don't know this. They don't even know anything about it but we have the only retread manufacturing plant on the Central Coast. It's unusual we have an actual manufacturing plant in Santa Maria. It's been here since 1962 and we are very blessed to have that, and the closest re-dred plant other than that is in Los Angeles and up in the Bay Area. We do just hope that whenever evaluations are being done on awarding contracts that they look at the total value of ownership of whatever it is.

Sometimes there's just not enough information in the bidding process to go through, other than just the cost of the product. There are services involved also. We do 24-hour services. We never close ever 365 seven days a week we are operating and we do service those vehicles at times whenever it's needed. And also we hope to take the consideration of the time and money, actually more importantly is the money. Excuse me that the time that our associates spend on all kinds of good charitable organizations within the city of Santa Maria. Cameron the president of the company, my son.

We spend hours and hours we have when you're doing community events and giving your time and trying to help organizations. We've both been involved in the Boys & Girls Club combined for 60 years. My kids have been Members of the Boys and Girls Clubs when they were kids, along with all other associations. So that's how we again thank you for your time and hope that you whenever awards are being considered they look at things.

We have bought probably 45 to 50 trucks in the 40 some years that I've owned a business. They are not being purchased out-of-state Like a lot of places nowadays and just want to hopefully all those things are considered. Thank you.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role41:10

Thank you, Mr Stephens. Any other public comment?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role41:17

I believe

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role41:18

we had one

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role41:18

more

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role41:19

in the room. That's that's on. Is it HC? Oh no, it's C1C11C1. And that's Mike Flores. Good evening, Mr. Flowers. Good

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed41:47

evening Mayor and City Council. I am from the Santa Maria Public Airport District. I'm here with my Board President Steve Brown and we are hoping that you guys approve our Santa Maria Police Department LEO contract. We worked pretty tirelessly with Chief Williams as well as Chief Dandridge to really get our law enforcement and public safety taken care of so hoping you approve it! Thank

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role42:16

Thank you. Okay Now we'll move on to the consent calendar. Does anyone have an item they wish to pull for discussion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed42:25

I do.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role42:26

Yes, Mr

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed42:27

Item 11 C

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role42:42

Item

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed42:43

11 C 2 adoption of a resolution awarding a purchasing agreement to hyper. A Motorola solutions company the hyper non-emergency call agent services. Um. Around what this agreement would entail if we were to move forward with adopting the recommendation that's before us, um I would just like to know more about how this AI enabled non emergency call. System The burden on routine call strings for the call takers.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed43:49

Good evening Mayor and Council, Councilmember Soto, Krista Williams your Police Chief. To address your question how it would work is kind of two-fold. One it would answer so if a member of the general public was to contact the Santa Maria Police Department We have our general line. And our current system, how it works is you either have to know the extension of the party you're trying to reach or you have to go through a directory of people and manually type in the person's name like if you wanted to contact the chief and you didn't know my extension, you would start with the keypad dial out The name with the AI assistance with hyper.

It would allow you to verbalize who you want wanted to speak to another option that you have is it has similar to a phone tree where if you want to contact the records department You could contact the records department and then it would give you some options. If you wanted to get a copy of a police report, if you wanted to get a citation signed off, if you wanted the hours of the operation and it would allow you to verbalize it instead of trying to push numbers and go through like a constant revolving door as many of us have experienced sometimes trying to contact if we're trying to pay bills or have questions about bills.

The more important function of the system that excites me is the non-emergency call taking function. And what this does is if you have a non-emergency report that you want to make, you can verbalize and it actually will create so when you How we currently work is when you call our non-emergency number and want to report an incident, it's a physical person typing out the information and trying to direct whatever resource it is.

This, and obviously we're limited to the number of open stations Sometimes our staffing level is at two like in the middle of night, maximum of four. So that's a number of lines that we could physically take at one time whether it's emergency or non-emergency without placing people on hold. This system, it allows to take thousands of calls. It could be if every person in the city of Santa Maria called and had a non-emergency call to make they could all call at one time and be handled and be communicating with this AI technology to direct them to whatever the call for service is. And they're able, this system, AI system is able to transcribe that information into our computer aided dispatch which will then get routed to our dispatcher who can dispatch the call.

Another great feature about it is that it can detect if a person is stressed, if it hears commotion or violence in the background. It'll immediately transfer that and give it a priority to a live communications dispatcher. Another key feature that it has is it can translate over 18 foreign languages including Spanish Japanese, Tagalog and many others. So if we have people visiting from out of the area and how we currently have to do is we have to go through a language line which delays the information.

And then another key feature that this technology has is it allows the person to file an online report if they have their cell phone Either they lost or misplaced it, or it was stolen and there's no suspect information. A bicycle is taken from their property. They can actually take that information, this technology and file the report for them which cuts down on our resources from having an officer go out. It cuts down on any delay for the person from having that report information generated so that they could report it to their insurance company or whoever they want to report it too.

So there's many positive features. This technology doesn't get sick, it doesn't get tired, it doesn't take breaks. So it's a great compliment and supplement to our hardworking men and women within our communications center to help supplement them so that they can handle the emergency phone calls and get police and fire services there more quickly and efficiently.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed48:38

Thank you. So would this system only be for the non-emergency phone number? Or would it be for to detect non-emergency calls?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed48:50

Correct. It is only for non-emergency calls, so if someone picks up the phone and dials 911 they're getting a 9-1-1 dispatcher. Okay. If someone calls our non-emergency phone line oftentimes especially in the later hours dispatch may get calls for other departments for example or they may get the dispatch center but they really want records This technology is able to basically be the buffer from tying up a communications dispatcher from handling emergency traffic or emergency phone calls and kind of vet out what the situation the person may need for non-emergency.

It is not replacing our emergency situations because like I mentioned, if they accidentally Call the non-emergency number instead of hitting 9-1-1 and there's clearly an emergency. It is able to direct them right to a live dispatcher

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed49:47

Okay, and now I'm assuming that this system has been vetted and that the room for error

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed49:55

correct

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed49:56

is Non-existent awfully

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed50:00

Well, I wouldn't say that it's non-existent because even with humans there is room for error. Because it is computer AI generated there are several other agencies that have tested and currently using it including the Lompoc City Police Department they have used it we have We have tested it out, we have listened. And they have cut down on their emergency dispatchers and communication center by 66%, by actually vetting and funneling those non-emergency calls to allow for people that have true emergencies to get to a live 911 dispatcher.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed50:43

And the plan here is for this to be supplemental, to be additive to the work of the existing employees?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed50:50

Correct.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed50:51

Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed50:51

It's not used to replace our dispatchers.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed50:54

And then my last question is where will this information be stored and how long will this company store the data that That it will be collecting from the calls, that it will be receiving, analyzing and dispatching or assigning.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed51:16

As far as being retrievable for evidentiary purposes?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed51:20

That or just like I'm assuming it acts also as a data center where it's collecting the data that is being fed. Yeah. I'm assuming that that's how it would work and so I'm just curious like I'm Can be. Yeah, that information will be stored of the callers and what happens next. And so I'm just curious like where is that information being stored? Is it with this company that we're hiring to provide the service and how long will they store the data for?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed51:56

It's web-based and cloud-based, and these companies have to be vestiges compliant, which means that they have to follow the guidelines of state and federal regulations so that they can't be hacked or corrupted. And they are retained just as long as our current calls are retained and held. And it's not that this data is shared or this company has access to it. It is our data with our logins.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed52:25

It doesn't belong to anybody else but to us as a city.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed52:28

That's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed52:28

correct. Okay, those are all my questions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed52:32

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed52:32

Thank you.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role52:34

Any other questions? Mr. Pattaya?

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response52:39

I would like to pull 11D1. Adoption of resolution approving the award of professional services agreements to both Southern Tire Market LLC and Santa Maria Tire Service.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role52:54

Okay, and I was thinking as I was coming here tonight a truck came in front of me. Not in front of me didn't pass by. I was stopped at a stoplight and it was Santa Maria Tire 1946. And I thought that is really timely anyway I did

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response53:17

I have a question. Why wouldn't we go with the local company and split it with another company that's out of the state?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed53:26

Sure yeah thanks for your comments or thanks for your question Council Member Battaia. This was released as an RFP to essentially procure services as we would procure any other service for the city and so as a result of that there were submitted prices and that pricing was provided by both Santa Maria Tire and Southern Tire Mart Our team reviewed that and in fact there was a cost competitive advantage that Southern Tire Mart had.

And we, in accordance with our purchasing policies you know we try to make sure that we're spending City money wisely. And so as part of this there was also a recognition that there are a local company and they do good business, they do good work and so the decision was made to have $375,000 award to both Santa Maria Tire and a $370,000 award to Southern Tire Mart So that we have two companies that are able to provide us services at relatively competitive prices, even though that we have a local company. That's a little bit more it's not substantial enough to where we didn't feel that it wouldn't meet our policies.

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ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response54:38

But in the past, we've only used our rear tires?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed54:41

So we've used Santa Maria Tire as like a discretionary. We didn't really have a contract with them, we would call them up and have them provide our services. We were approached by Southern Tire Mart of like hey how come we don't get an opportunity to provide our prices on that business? And we were doing a 1Z2Z sort of bid every time and we said okay you know what we're gonna do is put this out to RFP, we're gonna go ahead and allow everybody to bid on it, we're gonna give them the same scope of work So they have equal opportunity to show us their best, and this is a result of that.

And we try to do that to make sure that we have a level playing field for all that would like to do business with the city and to make sure that our utilities customers are getting the best value. I

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response55:25

understand but it's very unfortunate that we're taking our business somewhere out of the state knowing what Santa Maria Towers, I know at the money stays here locally and they help a lot of youth here. That's my biggest pet peeve with this. I do not support the idea of splitting with two companies, especially with one being non-locally owned. That being said, I do not support the splitting of this contract.

So that's my thought on that. Sure. Anybody

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed55:52

else? Madam Mayor, may I ask a question on this item? Thank you. Thank you for pulling that item, Council Member Batallas. My question is in that RFP, I can't speak today, in that RFP that we put out are there any, is there anything that speaks to You know, local workforce. You know, anything that pertains... Like a local preference? Yeah,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed56:27

local

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed56:27

preference,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed56:27

local workforce. Within the purchasing policy there's actually not a carve-out for local preference. However, that's something we've been discussing with our finance department and potentially amending that policy. It's not currently part of our purchasing policy at the moment. To give some context, you know of all the different awards that are here tonight and the different on call in engineering. It's really just who is the best qualified and who gets us the best prices currently? And we aren't really able to take into consideration those other factors that may be legitimate factors but it's something that we should look at a little bit closer.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed57:07

Is there if there is a change to that policy would that policy come before the council?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed57:13

That would be a policy that the finance department would bring.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed57:15

And then as we are looking at future contracts, for whatever RFP we put out, could that be one of the factors that help land on a vendor or contractor in the future? Or is it solely price? on the policy and how it's written.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed57:40

It depends on the bid, and I'll probably have to defer a little bit of this to the city attorney. Perhaps we could do a little bit of additional research because there's a difference between the public works construction side of things and other RFPs. Sometimes we have a little bit of leeway with a different RFP versus a low-bid construction contract. But there are certainly jurisdictions with local preference policies

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed58:04

Like a local workforce agreement that could be put in place for a city? Could something like that be applicable?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed58:12

Local workforce is a very different animal. That's more of an agreement that we're only going to use union labor or something like that. That's not what we're talking about. What we're talking about is in the purchasing guidelines, if you were going to have a local preference, you might give 10 points or 2 percentage points against their price to keep it local. As we sit here today under the strict rule of the RFP Southern Tire would have gotten the entirety of the contract because that's what the RFP said, that was a contract. So the option for council would have been to pull that contract and not award it and start over.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed58:54

Is that something that could be done now?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed58:57

It is something you can do. You can choose not to proceed with that contract but you don't have that policy in place and the work still has to get done so

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CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction59:07

Okay, so I'm going to make a motion if we can approve temporarily the contract until we come up with a policy. I know that you need a tire service and that's why we're here. So if we could approve it for three months to work with these two vendors so that we can develop a policy. I do agree with Councilmember Battaglia We should be giving priority to local companies. A lot of the local vendors support a lot of the nonprofit organizations, and I think that we should give credit to that as well.

A percentage or whatever points you guys want to award for that because that goes a long way with so many organizations that we have that need services.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed59:49

Madam Mayor, may I request a point of clarification. Are we ready to make a motion or are we just asking questions and discussions at this point? Well,

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role59:58

Council Member Battaia pulled it as questions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:00:04

Madam Mayor may I make a recommendation?

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:00:06

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:00:07

Perhaps the best response to that, and to give us adequate time to really research and bring back an appropriate policy would be to award only a one-year contract to each of these corporations for $125,000. That way you can move forward on the project. We can get it rebid next year with potentially a local preference.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:00:29

Okay, go ahead.

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:00:33

My question is this so who's currently doing the tire work and stuff like that for the city? Santa Maria Tire.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:00:38

So Santa Maria Tire provides services for this current contract We do also buy tires from Southern Tire Mart. They provide our police vehicle tires. So we do business with both of these companies

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:00:52

I have a follow-up question. Thank you If we were to not approve the contract, where would that leave Public Works?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:01:05

We would have to bid each time. Each

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:01:09

time for each service? Yeah.

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:01:12

Well technically if say for example we do pull it, Santa Maria will still be doing business until it goes up for bidding right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:01:21

We always try to provide each company an opportunity to bid our services pursuant to the purchasing policies. I know,

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:01:28

but that's not my question. My question is if we pull it right now, forget about it right now, we pull it, Santa Maria Tires has currently been doing the work correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:01:36

Yes.

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:01:36

Okay so we will go back then until you guys go back to the drawing board and you put it out again as an RFP.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:01:42

Yes although I'm quite certain that Santa Maria or Southern Tire Mart would want to be able to provide those bids since the expectation was In the current regimen, we're operating under a certain. This was an effort to try to minimize the amount of administrative work that we're doing and So if this wasn't approved today, I suppose perhaps that we would just go back to that regimen.

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ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:02:36

My biggest thing is, if Sacramento Tires has been doing this work for so many years, why would you? Where's the loyalty in there? That's what I'm trying to get and then also too-

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:02:45

There's a difference between- Hold

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:02:47

on, I'm not done yet.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:02:48

Sorry.

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:02:50

But then also too, we gotta continue to support our local businesses. That's the thing that we keep on doing here in Santa Maria. We keep on taking our business somewhere else when we have somebody here locally that can do the job and was doing it before. Now I'm

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:03:09

done. Okay, thank you.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:03:12

I don't have any, I don't have a problem with developing a policy. But I am going to make a motion that-

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:03:19

There was a motion already made?

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:03:21

There was not a second. I'm going to make a motion that we adopt a resolution approving the award of a professional service agreement to Santa Maria Tire to perform tire related services for the city vehicles and equipment over a three year term And my reasoning for this is that this other firm comes out of Mississippi. This family, this company has been here for 80 years and I know personally how they have given back to the community whether it's been through Rotary, whether it's been through the hospital and the Boys & Girls Club and then develop a policy.

Madam Mayor, may I make an amendment to your motion? One minute. I see Mr. Watson looking at me here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:04:09

Madam Mayor?

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:04:10

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:04:11

Southern Tire won this bid. What? Southern Tire won this bid and... I know you said that. And there is a...I would like to have an opportunity to discuss with Council a potential legal issue that could arise from your motion.

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:04:26

Can we just continue the matter then?

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ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:04:31

Okay, do I have a second on this? I'll second it Mayor. And

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:04:36

then... I would like to know what the legal matter is and I think that's got to be in closed session. It absolutely is. We're talking about contracts and bidding and we have to follow certain procedures and by this motion it might create legal issues for us.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:04:56

So then, okay. But so then we're supposed to just rubber stamp this? So why does it come to the city to approve any of these contracts?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:05:05

Madam Mayor again you have absolute discretion on this and that includes rejecting the contract asking the RFP to be reviewed And to potentially in the interim, put in a local preference that would give Santa Maria Tire a better opportunity to do so. That's all I'm suggesting in terms of moving forward. That is a very appropriate way of going forward on this project.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:05:33

Okay Mr. Pattaya you had your hand up. Yeah

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:05:35

so then if that's the case then what I'm requesting is that we reject this contract And then until further notice. So we go back to the drop board. Sanrio Tires continues to do work for the city.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:05:51

Okay, there's a motion and a second. Do you want to withdraw your second then?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:05:57

Wait, okay. Well I agree with keeping Santa Maria the tire company they do give back to our community immensely they've been here for a while thank you for your service here in our community and I really don't want to see them go away. I love what they do. Okay

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:06:15

I know but I don't think that's what we're saying okay that they would go away

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:06:20

I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:06:20

second it. Tom?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:06:21

Yeah, all I want is if you do decide you want to award it on the basis of this RFP which they did not win then I'd like to have an opportunity to speak with you in closed session before you vote on that matter. Right.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:06:36

Then why is it on here?

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:06:38

Because he didn't know that this was going to be raised. So we have a motion and a second, but I would also like to raise the motion that we continue this till the next hearing next week. We have closed session next week so that we can discuss this matter.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:06:57

So that would be an amendment to the motion?

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:06:59

Well no. That's a separate motion. So that one would need to fail in order for us to continue

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:07:09

this. Which would be my

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:07:11

recommendation. If you want to withdraw your second, that will be fine with me and then we can go into closed session.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:07:17

All right.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:07:18

I'll withdraw it. With that motion is withdrawn, I'll withdraw my motion.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:07:23

Then there is a motion to continue this item to your next regular meeting with an interim closed session on this item?

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:07:29

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:07:30

That would be an appropriate motion.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:07:33

Okay so moved second. Madam Clerk can you call the roll?

Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 moved second. Madam Clerk can you call the roll?
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Council Member Aguilar, aye. Council Member Soto, aye. Council Member Batalla, aye. Mayor Pro Tem Flores, aye and Mayor Patino, aye

okay now let's go on with the rest of the consent calendar do I have a motion So moved a second okay of a motion and a second to approve the remaining consent calendar. Any further discussion? Okay Madam

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:08:09

Mayor if I may yes we did have two amendments on item 11A7 there was an amendment to attachment D And to item 11A8, there was an amendment to attachment C. Both were provided to members of the council and a copy is provided to the public in the back as well as will be posted on the city's website in the morning. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Aguilar? Aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:08:40

Did we do a motion and a second for the consent calendar?

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:08:44

For the remainder of the consent calendar and the amendments,

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:08:47

yes. So she's just doing a

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:08:51

roll call

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:08:51

for the

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:08:51

amendments.

Roll-call vote Passed 3–0 motion and a second for the consent calendar? For the remainder of the consent calendar and the amendments, yes. So she's just doing a roll · 1 under review
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Thank you. Council Member Bethea? Yeah. Council Member Soto? Yes. And Mayor Patino? Yes,
ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:09:00

thank you. So moving on now, we will move on to the appointments for the Block Grants Advisory Committee Assistant city clerk, Alex Valadez. Can you please read the staff report?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:09:13

Yes, Madam Mayor and members of the City Council. The request before you tonight is to make an appointment to the Block Grants Advisory Committee. I will present the committee for consideration of the appointment and the City Council's ratification. The Block Grants Advisory Committee has one vacancy at this time. Staff received one new application from Cynthia Gudino In addition, applications previously submitted by incumbents who were not appointed remain on file for Esther Acosta and Isaiah Breuman for tonight's consideration.

The appointee will serve an unexpired term of three years ending in July 2029. Council Member Batalla has a nomination to this committee following the nomination appointment will be confirmed by the mayor and ratified by the city council.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:10:02

Thank you. So council member Battaglia, do you have a nomination?

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:10:05

Yes, I do. I have Cynthia Godino.

Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 motion and a second to appoint Cynthia Godino any further discussion? Hearing none Madam Clerk can you please call the roll?
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Okay, it's a motion and a second to appoint Cynthia Godino any further discussion? Hearing none Madam Clerk can you please call the roll? Council member Battaglia? Aye. Council member Aguilar? Aye. Council member Soto? Aye Mayor Pro Tem Flores? Aye And mayor Patino? Aye

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ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:10:32

Is Ms. Gudino in the audience? Oh, there she is.

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:10:35

I would like to thank her as well for all the service she's done in the past years not just now. She's been helping us. Thank you so much.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:10:42

Thank you. So

the next item on the agenda is a public hearing item establishing a senior mobile home park overlay district to be presented by Director of Community Development, Shannon Dow. Good evening, Mrs. Dow.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:10:59

Good evening Madam Mayor, City Council members. We're pleased to present tonight zoning text amendments that would establish a senior mobile home park overlay. There are several purposes to the item before you tonight. One of these is to preserve naturally occurring affordable housing within the city of Santa Maria. This will serve as an anti-displacement safeguard, particularly for our seniors age 55 plus who are particularly vulnerable as they are on fixed incomes. We do have approximately 60% of our senior households in Santa Maria which do qualify as lower income meaning they make 80% or less of the area median income That constitutes 3,405 households that are in that bucket that we're trying to protect here.

Additionally this will provide consistency with the policy and legislative framework that has been established both by our own housing element as well as the state and federal legislation. This includes the Housing for Older Persons Act at the federal level. This overlay applies to existing active senior mobile home parks, of which there are five here in Santa Maria. These are listed here. They are Rancho Buena Vista, Casa Grande, Casa del Rio, La Maria and Trail Rancho.

Over 1100 spaces will be protected with 1100 separate households that will benefit from this. It also utilizes the existing residential mobile home development standards so there's no variation in that and no confusion for owners.

The next item is ordinance overview. This essentially this requires that 80% of the units in these parks be occupied by at least one person age 55 plus so there were some questions if you know someone passes away and someone is younger or if there is a temporary situation there and that is satisfied by that gives 20% of effectively wiggle room so those temporary situations can Additionally, there are a variety of compliance procedures.

The leases, park rules and signs must declare that it is a 55 plus park. Vacancy listings must clarify that as well so that people understand as they are occupying new spaces in the park. And there's a biennial certification process that goes through the city. So every two years we would toll what percentage they have of 55 plus spaces. There is also a conversion process. This is not a permanent status, if there is a desire on either the part of the city or the part of the park owner to return and convert it to an all ages park, there is a process for that. And it effectively is very similar to a zone change. It would require a public hearing process first with the planning commission and ultimately approval by the City Council.

These are exempt from, this is exempt from CEQA under the current action And our recommendation is to waive the first reading and introduce the ordinance, and then set for adoption at the next City Council meeting. I'm available for any questions. Any questions?

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ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:14:08

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:14:08

Council

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:14:10

Member

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:14:10

Battaglia.

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:14:11

I have a question, if an elderly resident needs a living caregiver who is under the minimum age could that caregiver legally reside in the park?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:14:20

Absolutely there's only one the requirement qualifies for just one person so if only one person in the household over the age of 55 they would qualify

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:14:30

Okay, my second question is opposed. Two partners legally live in the senior mobile home park. One is 55 and the other one's 50. If the 55-year old dies can the 50 year old surviving partner continue living in the home?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:14:45

Yes, they can. It is a minimum of 80% of the units that must be occupied on that every two year certification so there is that 20% of so-called wiggle room and in the interim potentially the second partner would age. Additionally under no circumstances would we be kicking people out of their homes so that we're complying with this. We would ask parks to then rent new spaces that become available to 55 plus to get closer to the threshold

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:15:09

It sounds good. I absolutely support this.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:15:11

Thank you very much. Any other questions? Who customarily are the 20 percenters?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:15:23

That is based on the federal regulation, the HOPA Act. So I can't speak to what their initial plan was in setting that forth but I assume it was for circumstances like this where we have some changes that happen in the household.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:15:38

So say you've got two people that are over 55 and for some reason they have to take in a grandchild or something, that's permissible?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:15:46

Yes just one person in the household has to be 55 or up.

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:15:49

Okay. Yes, who is enforcing this 80 20% compliance.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:15:58

So that would be a process through through the city and we would go through every two years they would need to provide us with their lists and then there are certifications that they would show us So reliable proof would include a standard government photo ID or signed release, rental lease affidavits. Alternative proofs such as prior records statements under perjury if residents refuse are unable to comply with those standards

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CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:16:26

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:16:42

So that conversion process would be, they would require a formal zoning amendment and similar to his own change process. This would require public review and a public hearing by the planning commission. So it would go to a study session then to the public hearing. And if it passed the planning commission then it would be referred to city council for consideration.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:17:00

Okay? So it's really, as you said, it's really not permanent.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:17:07

Correct. It's effectively a new zone. So in order to change it from this zone, you would go through a very similar process to a zone change.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:17:20

There's no way that we can make it permanent for residents of 55 and older. So that way every time like say there's a new owner that comes in and then they want to make it at all age park, then it becomes a hassle and then the residents that live there you know then their Thinking all any age can move in here now there's not no way that we can do that it would only come to Council and we would have to approve that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:17:46

You know I'm not certain because all of our zones are able to be changed through that process, I don't know that we could I would defer to Tom on if there's a mechanism for that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:17:56

There is no, in perpetuity except for possibly a land conservation. So anything that's an active commercial zone is possible to be changed by the legislative body. What we're trying to do is we're trying to make the steps more difficult and give you more discretion on whether or not you think it's a good idea for the community to change a zone later.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:18:22

Right. So if opposed of course the council could simply say no? Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:18:27

you. The bit of litigation that has happened in both Goleta and Santa Barbara was because Enodo came in and tried to change it,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:18:34

right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:18:35

And then the governing body tried to put guardrails in place. That's why we're trying to do it proactively so that any park owner who buys one understands what they're buying. Right. And that reduces both litigation and also reduces the stress on the residents,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:18:52

right? Absolutely. That's what my concern is, the residents that live there and have been living there

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:18:57

You know, I have a problem when you start changing the rules in the middle of a game. I have six public requests to speak. Gary Hall followed by Anne Meacham followed by Eileen Armijo followed by William Hance followed by Lisa Tote.

PresenterGary Hallnorth Santa Barbara County ManufacturedProposedself-stated1:19:27

Hello again, Madam Mayor and council members. My name is Dale Gary Hall. I am a senior retiree and resident of Rancho Buena Vista Mobile Estates at 2135 Railroad Avenue here in Santa Maria. I want to take a minute and just invite all the good people from the mobile homes of Santa Maria to stand up and say hi. Come on, stand up. Acknowledge the fact that you're here and you're interested Thank you.

I want to thank the Community Development Department again for preparing this Senior Mobile Home Park District Ordinance. Without this ordinance, Santa Maria mobile home seniors will continue to live with an ongoing threat that their senior park could be converted into an all-age park. Rancho Buena Vista is a senior park It was always been a senior park. It was designed to be a senior community.

We don't have playgrounds, we don't even have sidewalks where children might play. Our streets are mostly quiet and a really good place for a senior on a cane or even a walker to take a leisurely stroll. Our residents lead quiet lives. Seniors like me buy homes in senior parks, knowing our neighbors will also and always be seniors. Senior mobile home parks need to be preserved in Santa Maria since they remain one of the few affordable housing options for seniors.

I encourage you to pass and adopt the proposed ordinance amending Title 12, Zoning by adding the new Chapter 12-25b titled SMHP Senior Mobile Home Park Overlay District and amend the official zoning map accordingly. Please help save our senior parks. Thank you.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:21:26

Thank you and is it Mitchum? Okay, thank you.

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CommentAnn MitchumProposedself-stated1:21:39

I'm addressing you today out of support for the proposal to allow the senior communities to remain senior. My name is Ann Mitchum and I am a resident of Rancho Buena Vista. To have the potential threat hanging over our heads of could be reclassified at any time would be extremely detrimental for both the seniors already living in all the retirement communities, as well as the seniors who will be needing to transition into the senior communities.

Our senior citizens today face many challenges and difficulties, many have disabilities or chronic health conditions. Every day I see many of my neighbors out trying to stay active and healthy. They try to get their steps in even if they must use a walker or cane. They take advantage of the amenities that our senior community offers, such as a pool and a community center because they feel safe. They know that they are not going to be jostled or knocked off balance or disturbed. They take comfort in the fact that their neighbors are seniors who have similar lifestyles and activity levels.

Another huge challenge facing the elderly today is financial. Many senior citizens are on fixed incomes with no way to improve their finances. It is hard enough for many of them to accommodate the yearly park rent increases without taking into account the rampant inflation that is today's reality, as well as the very real possibility that social security payments will be decreased by a significant amount a few years from now. If senior parks are part of the standard housing market many elderly people in Santa Maria would no longer be able to purchase a home in our community Different age groups have different strengths and weaknesses, different activity levels and abilities. No one would suggest placing a toddler on a high school football team.

Families and children need safe spaces where kids can be kids and senior citizens need safe spaces where they can live the most active and healthy retirement lifestyle that they are capable of living. I don't believe that anyone in this room would dispute the fact that we have a housing crisis and one of the hardest hit groups is young families. We need to collaborate as a community to resolve this situation, however it is not okay to do it at the expense of some of our most vulnerable residents. These are our parents and grandparents, and we must work together to ensure that they continue to have the resources available to live a healthy and productive life of retirement.

Senior communities were developed to improve the lives of our seniors and keep them safe. Please ensure that they can continue to do so. Thank you. Thank you. Eileen

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:24:45

Armijo followed by Esther Jensen

CommentEileen OmihoProposedself-stated1:24:53

My name is Eileen Omiho and I want to address the council. I came up here not super prepared, but what my predecessor said before me really cleared it up. And what I want council to do is to give the senior community the respect and compassion that they deserve after they worked a long life. They give back to the community And they deserve not to be taken out by businesses that are in for profit only.

And so, that's all I ask is you to look at it with respect for the senior community and what they do for you and compassion for them. Thank you.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:25:36

Thank you Eileen. Esther Jensen followed by William Hines followed by Lisa Toke.

CommentEsther JensenProposedself-stated1:26:00

My name is Esther Jensen. I'm from La Maria Senior Mobile Home Park. Getting old isn't for sissies. As we age, it's important to be able to talk, share. We become like family as senior only park is usually quiet. The mobile homes usually don't have much yard space. There's no place to play but in the streets. If they play in the yards, what about the neighbor and their property?

We chose, when we came to Santa Maria, to pick a senior park. We wanted peace and quiet and be able to mix with others our age. It's been a good investment that way we strongly favor keeping senior parks for seniors only. Thank you.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:27:01

Thank you. William Hines followed by Lisa Toke.

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CommentWilliam HeintzProposedself-stated1:27:29

Good evening, Madam Mayor and council members. My name is William Heintz and I live at Casa Grande Mobile Estates 5119 West Taylor Street. At Casa Grande we have 421 mobile homes. It's the largest in the city. I'm here to request that you support the item 13A. In Casa Grande's lease Under item 11, it is in writing that the park is for seniors only. It's not only there but it's also in the rules and regulations.

Also is that the city of Santa Maria has a housing element that I've checked into. And one of them was A3, four special housing needs for senior households for ages of 62 and above experiencing combination factors that can make accessing and keeping affordable housing a challenge. Now I noticed that, you know, I've lived in Santa Maria 23 years. The city of Santa Maria has always been known to me As a senior friendly community.

And always has been. Santa Maria is focused on environmental and social factors that contribute to healthy, active aging here. Service providers, public officials, community leaders, faith leaders, businesses and others have recognized the great diversity among older persons, promote their inclusion and contribution areas of community life, respect their decisions and lifestyle choices and anticipate the response flexibility to aging related needs and preferences. The proposed Senior Mobile Home Park Overlay District will preserve a significant source of affordable senior housing by ensuring that senior mobile home parks within the city remain available to seniors and are not converted to allow occupancy of all ages.

The overlay district will benefit all of your senior constituents Since the city of Santa Maria is a senior friendly community, I respectfully request that you Madam Mayor and the City Council support and approve this ordinance. Thank you.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:29:54

Thank you Lisa Tocque.

PresenterLisa Tokethree biggest mobile home parks in Santa Maria as you probably remember from preProposedself-stated1:30:08

Good evening Madam Mayor, City Council members and city staff. My name is Lisa Toke and I think I'm the outlier here tonight. I represent the three biggest mobile home parks in Santa Maria as you probably remember from previous appearances before the council. I also represent three of the five senior mobile home parks in Santa Maria. Rancho Buena Vista, Casa Grande and Casa Del Rio.

Now Casa Del Rio is a little different than the other two because it is actually a subdivided homeowners association community as opposed to a traditional mobile home park But with that said, all three of my clients oppose. I'm the first one to say that we oppose the adoption of a senior overlay to the extent that it applies to Casa Del Rio. The letter that we submitted to the council in anticipation of the hearing tonight details a number of reasons why my clients opposed the senior overlay They include the fact that the senior overlay will not only not solve, but it also will not even necessarily help the affordable housing shortage in Santa Maria.

It will also limit the ability of a resident of Santa Maria to buy a mobile home in Santa Maria because the parks that are subject to it will be restricted to only seniors. It will also harm non-seniors who would like to buy a mobile home in Santa Maria because they won't be able to do so if the mobile home that they would like to buy is in a senior mobile home park.

This is, as we see it, an attack on private property rights of the owners of the senior mobile home parks in Santa Maria. And we believe that it may actually be inverse condemnation. We hope we don't obviously have to get to that point but that is our belief. In addition, this senior overlay would impose monetary and administrative burdens on the city in terms of determining whether particular parks are in compliance with the provisions of the ordinance.

And this is all being suggested when we find ourselves in a situation where none of the current senior mobile home parks in Santa Maria are anticipating converting into all age parks. So we believe that this is something that's not necessary and will damage the senior mobile home parks that are currently doing business in good faith in Santa Maria and having no intention of changing that.

In response to the statements regarding the provisions of the ordinance, they're already most of them Thank you, Madam Mayor. They're already in the law. The vast majority of the provisions of the ordinance are already in the law. The difference is the restriction on the ability to convert a mobile home park from a senior park to an all ages park which again my clients have no intention of doing but I would suggest to the council that this is exactly what Mayor Patino suggested and that is changing the rules in the middle of the game Making it more difficult for a senior mobile home park to convert to an all-ages park when that was no longer, that was not previously the case.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:33:49

Thank you Mrs. Choke. I'm sorry but these were left at our, at the dais here so I don't think any of us got a chance to read them before the meeting. I have paper copies as well if anyone would like one. Thank you. Any questions from the council? Yep.

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:34:11

Mrs

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:34:11

Hernandez,

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:34:12

I guess this is for staff. Um, what is it that brought on for us to legislator to create this ordinance one? And then the second one is for Tom, the legal consequences of doing this because it is only temporary right two years at a time. So what brought on this to change when there is no proposal to make it an allegiance park And what are the legal consequences of doing so.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:34:43

In terms of what brought it on, I think one of the first elements, of course we've heard from the park owners at various meetings. And based on this happening throughout the region with different parks looking to convert, it was seeking to kind of get ahead of the game before there was a desire to convert here. So as indicated previously that people would understand that this was the limitation if they were to purchase a park within the area. In addition, it's in alignment with our housing element stated policies Where we are looking to preserve and protect affordable housing in particular for seniors.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:35:19

And with respect to the, again legal consequences. I appreciate my learned counsel but I disagree with her analysis. We have reviewed this it is consistent with federal law and again we are not making a permanent restriction we're making a restriction that becomes a little bit more difficult if you decide to change but if we are not precluding change and As she's already acknowledged, her clients would have no damages because they are not in a position that they're trying to change their parks. Which was admitted which I appreciate.

So I would say at this juncture this has legal green light from my office to move forward.

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:35:59

Okay. And then the question I have is that 80% would need to comply with the 55 and over, and 20% doesn't have to? So there's still ability for people who are not 55 and over to live at these locations and buy in the mobile home parks?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:36:17

Yes. There is some limited flexibility, and that is based on the federal HOPA regulations as far as that 80-20.

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:36:23

So that's a federal rule? Yes Any other questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:36:29

Questions. Madam Mayor with that?

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:36:32

Yes, I'd like to. I want to see if I have any requests to speak on

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:36:36

yes

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:36:36

before you

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:36:37

close the public hearing we did receive as mentioned two written public comments from Jared Gonzalez and one from Lisa Tok. We do not have any requests to speak on zoom.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:36:49

Okay, I'll close the public hearing.

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:36:51

I do have a comment. Yes. I do feel for the seniors. My sister works at Legal Aid and she continuously tells me that seniors are coming in because rents are increasing and you know continuously dealing with that when your income isn't going up because you're not working. You know you're retired so I do feel for that. I wish there was something This is only a two-year process that I think long term we will need to address for seniors. That's why I always push to create senior housing when developers come and propose new housing I always say, hey what about this in your housing and we did do that as you can see on Main Street. But I think it is a continuous need because in order for community to be rich and have culture. We need the elderly as well as the young people.

And if you look at the different communities that don't have That is, you know, it hurts us long term. We're not the only location. I went to Hawaii. I was looking at their city council meeting and they're having the same thing. Their seniors are hurting. It's hard for them to find housing. They're getting priced out. So I think in terms I understand why this came forward and I do understand that this is just sort of a temporary fix because we do have to comply with federal law. Thank you.

I would like to make a motion

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:38:20

to what one minute. I have I have a question, Mister Watson. It seems to me like 20 years ago or no maybe not down 15 years Here in the city of Santa Maria?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:38:35

I don't recall that. Obviously, I wasn't here. You weren't here, yeah. But when we did go through this to set this up that we didn't see an overlay that would be consistent with this.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:38:44

Okay

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:38:45

thank you.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:38:45

Oh Mr. Battaglia.

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:38:46

Yeah I would like to make the motion to approve it uh the ordinance amending um I absolutely support this so

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:38:56

I have a motion. I have a second. I'll second second. Any further discussion? Hearing none, Madam Clerk, can you please call the roll council member but they're

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:39:06

on

Roll-call vote 1–0 motion. I have a second. I'll second second. Any further discussion? Hearing none, Madam Clerk, can you please call the roll · 4 under review
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Mayor Pro Tem Flores I Councilmember Aguilera
ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:39:15

Item 13B, the next public hearing item will be also on more amendments to the title 12 zoning. To also be presented by the Director of Community Development, Shannon Dow.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:39:27

Thank you Madam Mayor City Council I'm back. So we have a number of zoning text amendments tonight and this covers a wide range of areas so please feel free to jump in with questions. These items were reviewed by the Planning Commission and recommended for approval at their July 1st meeting. The first item is density bonus. So the proposed amendments are to comply with general updates required for state law compliance. So they generally deal with how we intake and review applications, including the determination of qualification for the density bonus development incentives that might apply review procedures and it requires compliance with the city's adopted objective design standards that were adopted in 2025 Next up everyone's favorite topic, ADUs.

So the state has been busy and they have adopted four new laws in the last legislative session and this is to reflect those laws. I do want to bring this as a definition of livable space which is a space in a dwelling intended for human habitation including living sleeping eating or sanitation.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:40:34

Is this ADU in Santa Maria? I'm sorry. Is this 80 you and Santa Maria?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:40:38

I don't believe so. I think this was just a stock photo. There is also, I do want to bring your attention to this one because it is something that we do receive a number of complaints about frequently no replacement parking can be required when the garage tightening what we can do, which is already very limited in order to protect parking in existing neighborhoods. So unfortunately we do have to adopt that. Also there will be no owner occupancy requirement for JADUs as long as they have their own bathroom and then permit processing timelines are also updated.

Next up we have transitional and supportive housing, employee housing and child daycare centers. So these initially are some housing element program compliance items so with transitional and supportive housing this will be a permitted use in residential zones and also it will allow for employee housing for six or fewer employees in residential zones Next up we have daycare centers. So the first component of this to allow these with no COP and residential zones is consistent with our housing element, but we recognizing that this is a key need for our local workforce and based on direction received a few months ago from council wanted to take that a step further So we are eliminating the COP requirement in all zones, with the exception that in industrial zones it would be associated with and integrated into a facility that is a use.

So it would be essentially for if you have an industrial property, it would be for childcare for those employees on site. So the goal there too is to make that significantly less expensive and a less lengthy process to establish new daycare centers to help meet the demand in Santa Maria. Next up, we have our non-taxable merchandise limitations. This was established in 1997 and in those 25 years intervening retail has changed substantially so we have a number of stores such as Costco, WinCo, Target, Sam's Club and Walmart all of which now include a much greater variety of groceries alongside taxable items So to ensure greater flexibility within our commercial centers as well as protect against big box vacancies that can be challenging for the city, we are seeking to eliminate this from our zoning code.

Again none of these apply for CEQA and we would recommend the initial first reading and introduction waiving the reading and setting for adoption at the next meeting. I'm available for questions. Any

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:43:15

questions? You know, I have a lot of people they'll stop me with their grocery store. I'm getting gas or whatever and they complain and they think it's our fault. Okay? So Santa Maria listen, it is not our fault that you don't have any place to park. All these mandates that come down from the state and these ADUs They have ruined neighborhoods. We don't have neighborhoods anymore in Santa Maria. They've ruined neighborhoods, and I think it's just really sad. And so we are expected to pass this because these are state mandates.

You know, I can't imagine putting a daycare center in a mall area like, you know, you have a Walmart, something else, something else, and a daycare center. Anyway... I just hate it and you know, I'm going to vote no on this. It's not going to do any good. Capital of ADUs in the state of California. Am I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:44:18

close? We have researched that, there is not necessarily a database but based on what we have found we believe we are the per capita ADU capital

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:44:26

yes. Do we should deserve an award when we go to League of Cities for that one I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:44:30

think? Well the bright side is HCD has been more accommodating than they may be otherwise because they do recognize we are doing our part

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:44:38

You know, I don't have a problem when people build an ADU or a granny flat because we know people are living longer. Or maybe kids come back from school or maybe they're working and they're single and they just need a place to live. I don�t have a problem with that. It's just what it's done in the neighborhoods. What it's done has had an adverse impact on Santa Maria. And that's not every place but until they're built in someone's neighborhood then I hear from them.

That's my speech. Anyway, I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:45:14

have a question related to child care. Child daycare centers and And I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit about. Removing the C C U P process and they would still have to meet other requirements, right? Absolutely development requirements

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:45:33

Yes So all of the standards for general development would apply They simply wouldn't need to go through that public hearing process for the C O P Additionally they are regulated heavily at the state level All of those licensing

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ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:45:52

Any other questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:45:54

No questions, but I do have a comment. I really appreciate staff bringing this forward particularly relating to Child Day Care Centers. We know that there is a significant gap in our child care infrastructure particularly in North County as one of the areas where we see that biggest gap across Santa Barbara County and so I'm really happy that the City of Santa Maria is taking a step forward and addressing that, even if it's through removing some red tape that could allow expand the child care stock that we have in our city. So thank you for bringing this forward.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:46:37

Thank you. I know Communify is putting a daycare center on East Fessler. And see those are nice because they're so enclosed that you're not taking the kid out into traffic, because people come to pick up their kids at different times and I know there's one next to the Shepherd Eye Center and that one's really nice but they're in areas where I think it... I know questions came up, what about the daycare center next to the smoke shop or next to a liquor store or next to whatever that you may not care for. But anyway, that's the way it is.

Any other questions? Comments? Do I have any written or requests to speak?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:47:26

We do not, Madam Mayor.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:47:28

Okay. Nothing on Zoom? No. I have a motion.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:47:36

So moved.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:47:39

I need a second. Okay, I have a motion and a second any further discussion? If not Madam Clerk please call the roll.

Roll-call vote Passed 4–0 motion and a second any further discussion? If not Madam Clerk please call the roll. · 2 under review
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Council member Soto. Aye. Council Member Bethea. Aye. Council Member Aguilar. Aye Mayor Pro Tem Flores.

Now to the regular business portion of the agenda, we will consider introducing an ordinance amending the Santa Maria Municipal Code on City Council salaries. The report will be given by City Manager Dave Rowlands.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:48:09

Thank you Mayor and Council. Tonight's recommendation is to waive the first reading And introduce an ordinance amending section 2-2.02, salaries designated of chapter two dash two of the Santa Maria Municipal Code increasing city council salaries by $341 and 31 cents per month. And set said ordinance for adoption at the next regular City Council meeting to take effect December 2026.

For a little background, City Council salaries have been increased only five times in the last four decades. The most recent increase took place with March of 2022 which currently set the current rate at $1706.90. Since the city of Santa Maria is a charter city and the setting of council members salaries are defined as a municipal affair, City Council has the authority to increase their salaries by either charter authority or the government code. The salary of council members of general law cities is controlled by Government Code Section 36516A which permits a city council to establish by ordinance a salary level up to a ceiling determined by the city's population.

And with that, a directly elected mayor may receive additional compensation with the consent of the electorate or by ordinance of the city council. A government code section 36516C allows the compensation accounts members to be increased by 5% for each calendar year from the operative date of the last adjustment of the salary. Chapter 2.2 of the Municipal Code deals with your salaries Just a little background, Santa Maria is the most populous city. We're one of the largest ones on the central coast yet councilors salaried are the third lowest within the four agencies we surveyed.

Santa Barbara is approximately 22% smaller in population and their salaries are approximately 209% higher than the City of Santa Maria's. It has been four calendar years since City Council's last salary increase, therefore an increase of $341.31 per month to a maximum salary of $2,048.28 per month per council member would be lawful. The mayor would be entitled to an additional $250 increase in the salary from $2048.28 to $2298.28.

According to government code section three six five one six dash five Any council salary increase may take effect only when at least one member of the council commences a new term Thus we're looking to have this go into effect December of 2026 and that's all I have for this.

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ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:51:08

Thank you any questions? No,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:51:10

no

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:51:11

comments.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:51:11

I have a question. Yes, Miss

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:51:13

Soto.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:51:13

Thank you in the This is just me Meeting support understanding what's in the report. Can you explain it? Mr. Watson, I think this was you writing it is the opinion of the city attorney that compounding the salary each year from the last adjustment is not appropriate because it states that increases 5% each year. Can you explain to me how then the salary increases would work

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:51:47

Again, that's just the legal definition of how you calculate it. So the calculation, it says on an annual basis or each year, that means that it's not a cumulative so you didn't go 5% then 5%, on 5% and so forth. It was just 5% per year which is how they wound up with the 20% that they came up with I believe.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:52:09

Per year from the last time it

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:52:11

was increased? From the last salary increase yes ma'am.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:52:17

Thank you.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:52:19

I'm glad you asked that question because, yeah, it's a little confusing. Any other questions? And anyone to speak on Zoom? Any written comments? We do not have any, no. Thank you. Do I have a motion and a second? So moved. Do we have a second?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:52:43

I'll just, I know that we're in the process of a motion and a second. So I'd rather make my points during this discussion portion if there is a second.

CommentAnn MitchumProposedself-stated1:52:50

Second.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:52:53

Okay. Discussion? Go

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:52:56

ahead. Thank you. Um, I appreciate city staff bringing this forward. I understand, um, the intent behind this is to encourage community members residents to Take on the job of or run for office, local office and ensure that there is more opportunity for people to see themselves serving in this role. I will say that I at the moment cannot support this 17% increase of City Council salaries when the city is facing a deficit, when we started SEIU negotiations and we heard from SEIU members and how you know They were going to feel the brunt with the 10% proposal that was first presented.

And I just, as we're getting ready to go before the voters for a sales tax increase, I just don't feel like it's the right opportunity or the right timing for us to be discussing this If the conversation is around like how do we encourage community members from running for local office, then I think we need to have a conversation about campaign finance report here in the City of Santa Maria where we at the moment don't have campaign contribution limits. And so if we're talking about that being the intent, then I would say that perhaps that could be a good place for us to start looking at setting a threshold for campaign contributions, perhaps starting there. Then seeing how things evolve with the city budget and then I think that would feel like more of an appropriate time.

So at the moment as we're having these conversations with employee groups where we're asking them to understand the state of our city budget, I just in good faith cannot support this.

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction1:55:12

The reason I think we need to support this is because we do want to encourage other people in the community to run for office. A lot of the people that I speak to in the community who would like to run for office say, I can't afford it. I have a young family. So the increase we're talking about is $341 a month. It is not very big, and even then it's not commiserate to what somebody would make for the hour that they're serving. But this is at least for me an attempt to get other people to serve our community who would be really good at bringing new ideas especially the young people who don't make a lot of money and don't have flexible schedules in their jobs to come and serve the city.

I will personally, if it passes, I'm not going to take the money because my term will be done in November. But this is a way for me to leave things better for the council when I am gone so I do think increasing $341 is appropriate. It's not a lot of money in terms of the big budget, but it does send a signal to the residents that we do want to encourage others to run for office. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:56:26

Any other comments? I agree with Councilmember Hernandez that we need to look at others that are going to run. Our mayor doesn't make that much money and she's all over the city, and I'm the one that proposed this but it comes along with City Council so I believe that we need to pass this as council and take care of our City Council and our mayors that come on board. It's only three hundred $341.31. Our city can afford that.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:57:01

Thank you. So do I have a motion? Before

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:57:07

we move forward, yeah, sorry. Go ahead. Sorry, should've spoken up for a minute. Yeah, so for

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:57:13

me, you

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response1:57:14

guys have been doing this longer than I personally, to me it's not about the money. It's never been about the money. I do it because I care for this community and it is another full-time job. So but me again like I said, me personally, it's not about the money. I just do it to help out the community and do what's best for Senator Maria, not so much me or do it for my resume. So for me, I'm a person that don't care about the race and that's just me.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:57:52

Thank you because I have the motion and a second. And do I have anything on Zoom?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:57:59

We do

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:58:00

not. Okay. So Madam Clerk can you please call the roll?

Roll-call vote Passed 3–2 motion and a second. And do I have anything on Zoom? We do not. Okay. So Madam Clerk can you please call the roll?
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Mayor Pro Tem Flores? Aye. Council Member Aguilar? Aye. Council Member Batalla? No. Council Member Soto? No. Mayor Patino? Aye,

passes. Thank

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role1:58:18

you.

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ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:58:22

The next item will be on the designation of an elected official as the Continuum of Care Board representative. The Director of Community Development, Shannon Dowell will now start us off.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:58:35

Madam Mayor City Council members last time I promise so continue of care representative for this can the board of the Santa Maria Santa Barbara County continuum of care. It is the regional body responsible for coordinating policies and programs to prevent an end homelessness in Santa Barbara County its responsibilities include overseeing federal and state homelessness funding, the county's coordinated entry system which coordinates services for the unhoused and the annual point-in-time count Historically the board has been staff driven, but recently the board adjusted its charter to designate that council members or other elected officials would be the representatives from each body.

The primary goal of this change is to enhance the region's competitiveness for grants and other homelessness funding. The board meets every other month typically for a two-hour period on Thursday afternoons. There are also occasional special meetings outside of this schedule. Staff recommends that the City Council Designate a City Council member to serve as the city's primary representative and also to designate a staff member To serve as backup in case that member cannot attend Historically that staff member has been Rosie Rojo our community programs manager And we are happy to have her continue in this role unless there is someone else you guys would like to designate This concludes my

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role1:59:52

presentation Miss Flores

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:59:57

Madam Mayor, I'd like to To be appointed to this board.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:00:03

Okay?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:00:04

It's all

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:00:05

you can nominate yourself. Do I have this? Do I have a second? Okay, okay. So how often are the meetings

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:00:16

there every other month area of the month and typically two to four on a Thursday.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:00:20

Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:00:23

There will be a zoom. Sorry is there anything

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:00:26

for an alternate?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:00:28

I

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:00:28

don't know did they ask for an alternate

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:00:30

They did not last, but we could do a city council alternative

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:00:33

because we do on most of our boards and commissions have an alternate.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:00:37

I'd be happy to serve as an alternate.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:00:39

Okay?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:00:40

Any questions from the council?

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:00:45

Any requests to speak or zoom? We do not have any okay so we For council member Flores. And and then Soto would like to be an alternate. So we'll put that into the motion? Yes, okay. And the second also? Yeah. Okay.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:01:10

Okay

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:01:11

so Madame Clerk can you please call the roll?

Roll-call vote 0–0 motion? Yes, okay. And the second also? Yeah. Okay. Okay so Madame Clerk can you please call the roll? · 4 under review
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Yes I just wanted to clarify Madam Mayor. So that would put Mayor Pro Tem Flores
UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:01:17

as the elected official Council Member Soto is the alternate and then additionally staff alternate would be Rosie Rojo.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:01:25

Okay.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:01:26

Sounds good,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:01:27

okay? There's already an alternate for the city. I think they

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:01:31

said council member Soto. I think they said Rosie Rojo was like, Oh,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:01:35

alternate

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:01:36

a staff

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:01:37

alternate.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:01:39

Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:01:40

They would love to see elected officials participate so I'm sure they would prefer that.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:01:47

So we're fine. So is the motion for the three or is the motion For one alternate.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:01:56

I would suggest we do all three and that way if both of you are unavailable for some reason, staff could attend.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:02:00

Okay? That's fine.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:02:02

Okay.

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:02:05

Mayor Pro Tem Flores? Aye. Council Member Aguilera? Not at the dais. The

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:02:22

next item will be approving a new general fund reserve policy to be presented by director of finance Rebecca Campbell.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:02:37

I last came on this subject to your council in the spring, and at that time you directed me to come back with the budget. We did take some time to make sure any changes were incorporated and so I'm here today to discuss a reserve policy and a 115 trust. A reserve policy is set up to respond to challenges in a changing fiscal environment. To mitigate operational impacts during difficult financial times and economic times.

To maintain adequate cash reserves and cash balances for unanticipated costs like natural disasters, and for fiscal soundness and credit worthiness when it comes to bond rating agencies. And then we'll discuss a section 115 trust. As part of the recommendation, there's a number of actions and we're recommending to set up the policy based on best practices. Also, with the following actions. So it involves a movement of funding from our pension reserve to a number of reserves that will be set up and we'll get into that in the presentation and also moving funding to a 115 trust and we'll revisit this slide later in the presentation.

Looking at the history of reserves for the city The local economic augmentation fund reserve, that was established in fiscal year 2001. It was set up as a stabilization fund for times during economic downturns. The projected ending balance for fiscal year 27 is just under $1 million. There was $6.9 million set up in other post-employment benefits, or it's called OPEB Reserve.

And back in 2011 they set aside $6,900,000 and today that sits at 6,200,000 and it's been there for a long time. There's also the $19.8 million set aside and committed for Economic Stabilization Reserve, that is the city's core reserve for cash balancing and for emergencies. And that was established in 2011. The city set aside $6.2 million in reserve established in fiscal year 2018 for the unfunded pension reserve for long-term liability costs, and currently that reserve sits at $15.4 million.

So looking at the reserve policy and available current policy targets Right now and I want to point out a typo on this slide in the third line that 7.4 should be 6.8 million. So talking through this, fund balance available or unassigned fund balance is the amount of general fund balance that's available for financing expenditures and other funding requirements after deducting non-spendable restricted committed and assigned to fund balances. So it's your unassigned fund balance.

And when there's excess that amount if any of actual general fund balance that's available after the close of an accounting period or at the end of the fiscal year in the budget. That difference of savings, it will be finalized and adopted per policy and can be rolled to the next fiscal year. So looking at the thresholds as per policy currently, the unassigned fund balance the City Council is expecting at the end of the year 25% savings and that right now is projected at $26.9 million.

Also, there's 25% policy on the economic stabilization or the core reserve. And so that's projected at 26.9 million right now. There sits 19.8 million that's been there for a long time and there's projected no savings at the end of the fiscal year. The leaf reserve or the local economic augmentation fund we call it LEAF Currently that's adopted as 5% of the general fund in Measure U, so $6.8 million and projected at the end of the year is just shy of a million dollars.

In the OPEB reserve there's no current policy on that but the city has maintained long-term reserves in that fund and also in the unfunded pension fund as well. There's no current policy target on that but there is funding So looking at recommended changes. We did an evaluation of you know, federal finance officers Association statewide Finance Officers Association best practices looking at other policies are neighboring cities counties looking all across the board of what are the best practices for Reserved policies, we also looked at credit agency best practices and came up with a recommendation.

So the policy outlines guidelines for excess fund balance. So in the case that at the end of the year there's savings, the policy sets guidelines for priorities for that. It prioritizes funding the reserves, the unfunded liabilities, emergencies and one-time capital costs. And ultimately that is this decision of the City Council where those funds go. Also, it maintains the General Fund Core Reserve. We're actually recommending to retitle that from the Economic Stabilization Reserve to the General Fund Reserve and that will be set up as the core reserve.

So based on best practices The policy protects these funds, and so it sets it up so they cannot be used unless there's a declared emergency or at the time of the budget. So once the money's there, there has to be action set up to use those funds. So it really protects those and that setup for emergencies and to maintain that cash balance protection that we need for liquidity.

Okay, also in the policy for the general fund core reserve we looked at the targets. So we're recommending per best practice 16.7% threshold level that would put it to $22.7 million. Looking at the leaf reserve, this would be your emergency reserve. It's your stabilization reserve and it's for times like sometimes they're called rainy day funds, contingency funds.

It is set there to buffer against economic downturns or major volatility. For best practice, we're recommending to set that at 10% to 15%. So looking at that the target would be $20.4 million. So then the policy recommends setting up a new reserve account called the Emergency Catastrophic Reserve. And so this one would be specifically for disasters, so when a disaster occurs there would be funding set aside for that and so that's recommended at five to 10%.

And so looking at a 5% target that would be $5.4 million. And also establishing a contingency fund. So contingencies are budgeted annually, so they're included in the budget and they're not a reserve. They're included in the budget as an expenditure. And so you set aside funds for annual emergent costs that were unanticipated during the year and they must be rebudgeted annually.

Part of the policy and recommendation, we're recommending to move the existing funds in the OPEB reserve to a 115 trust and also a portion of the unfunded pension reserve to a 115 trust. So looking at before the existing policy targets and what we have set aside, and looking at the new policy target and the new policy recommendation. That's what this shows. So with these policy changes where we will end up is our general fund core operating reserve will be at 16.7%. We will reach the target of $22.7 million.

The leaf reserve, recommended at 10 to 15%, will reach 7% at almost $10 million. The emergency disaster reserve recommending to fund that with a million dollars and so that's 1 to 5%. And so we'll get that started and setting up a nominal contingency of one million. And then if we don't spend it, it will roll to the next year. Recommending to move the funds in the OPEB reserve out to a 115 trust set aside for OPEB.

And to move 1.5 million of the pension reserve and transfer that out to establish a 115 trust. So in order to do this, there has to be some funding to bring those reserve accounts and new reserve account up. And so the chart off to the right shows funding this with the pension reserve, the existing pension reserve. So we would need to move 2.9 million to the core operating reserve 9 million to the leaf reserve, 1 million to establish the disaster reserve, a million to establish contingencies and push $1.5 million to the pension trust for 115 Trust.

So now I'll talk about the 115 Trust. And so, the Government Accounting Standards Board or otherwise known as GASB established accounting and financial reporting standards for the United States local governments to follow best practices generally accepted accounting principles. The city, our city has long-term debt requirements under GASB 75 for its OPEB and currently our debt is $18.6 million for that.

And under GASB 68 for pension liability our debt on that is 184.3 million. We also have a minimum employer contribution for retirees. So this is the OPEB. So what that is, it's retiree health care and it's other post-employment benefit. And so we have retiree healthcare And that's set at $162 per month for retirees. And so there's a cost to that and then there's a debt on that, that per GASB 75.

And so our minimum payment we've been doing pay as you go it's been approximately 600,000 per year to pay on them. For our pension, our contribution was approximately $27.6 million for fiscal year 25-26 for its unfunded pension liability. So looking at the Section 115 Trust, it was established under Revenue Code 115, Internal Revenue Code. It allows public agency to invest its funds and it's designed specifically for these long-term liabilities and prefunding those like OPEB and pension. The assets are held in a separate irrevocable trust account set for those purposes.

If you compare that to what we're doing right now, we have our funds in a government investment pool And so examples like of that is the investment pool or the local agency investment fund, or LAIF. That's a state-run fund. Those are designed for short term cash management and liquidity and the funds remain part of our overall investment portfolio. So the key difference here is that the 115 isolates the assets legally to an irrevocable trust where right now they're in the pool and they could be used really for anything.

Under the IRS rules, a Section 115 trust offers broader investment authority. So there's different rules. It has more flexibility to invest those funds into certain different types of funds and where the investment pool is more restricted and so it's less Looking at that, long-term expected returns in a 115 trust are about 5% to 7%, whereas an investment pool is 2% to 3%. The implication is that you can earn higher earnings in the long term.

In the 115, yes. So looking at assets in the 115, they can help our balance sheet because that debt will be taken off. That portion of what we have sitting in there it'll be taken off the balance sheet and it's looked more favorably from creditors and so if we were going out to bond you know that could be a plus and because it offsets the liability for OPEB. It does it for OPEB not for pension though Where it just sits in the investment pool or LAIF, it's just an unrestricted asset. So there's no other benefit there.

Looking at the 115 trusts, they're legally protected for those purposes where in the investment pool we talked about this, they could really be used on anything. And then for the pension trust, the 115 Trust Setup for Pension, you can use that as a budget. A lot of agencies use it as a budget stabilization tool so it does allow you to when you set the money aside and your funding it, you can pull it out to pay your pension payment because it's used for that purpose.

So you have the option if you're in hard fiscal times for the pension trust that it can be used for that. on an annual basis. In the shorter term, yes. So just looking at a summary, you know comparison. The purpose is pre-funding pension NOPEB on the 115. The government investment pool it's a short term cash investment legal structure irrevocable trust versus a pulled investment account long term diversification versus more conservative short term investment types Expected returns are higher in a 115 trust on the long term, and it reduces your GASB liability reduction in the 115.

So for the 115 trusts there's two games in town. There's PARS that's been established from the early 1900s and then there's CalPERS. In the state those are our two options for a 115 trusts so we did take a look at Their historical returns and their current returns, and we did some comparisons of what our funds would look like if we made all the different options available to us.

And we took out annual fees, and we also looked at is there going to be a budget loss because right now the money's all sitting in our investment pool? So we took that into account. And so the key results here are If we take the $6.2 million that's been set aside in our OPEB reserve for a long period of time, we could move it to a 115 trust and over five years looking at that investment strategy yields $1.6 million higher than the investment pool over five years.

And CalPERS yields 1.3 million over the investment pool, and so even with those fees and the budget impacts there's a higher return rate. Also did a comparison on the 1.5 million, the pension reserve and so if we move 1. 5 million of the pension reserve out to the 115 trust again pars has the higher historical rates and so we would over five years increase $364,000 compared to keeping it in our investment pool based on those rates So I do have a representative from PARS here if you'd like to take a deeper dive. Rachel Sanders is here. There's a number of slides, it's available to you if you would like and so she could come up if you would like.

So with that, going over the recommendation and each action. So we'll adopt asking you to adopt a resolution approving the general fund reserve policy and a section 115 trust and authorizing me to take the steps to establish the section 115 trusts I would need to return to your council with a resolution to establish the 115 trusts on that will be approval to open the accounts.

And so that would come back in September And then authorize the fight myself finance director to align funding, the reserves and the section 115 trust as outlined so we would need to move 2.9 million from the pension reserve And retitle that from the economic stabilization to the general fund reserve. Increase the leaf reserve to 10 million this will require moving 9 million from the existing pension reserve.

Establish an emergency catastrophic disaster reserve at 1 million dollars, this will require moving one million from the pension reserve. Establish a general fund contingency account and funding that with the pension reserve of one million And moving the 6 million 248 to $27 OPEB reserve out to the 115 trust and the 1.5 pension reserve out to a pension, one 15 trust and we would do that. We would work with our Our financial management agency to make sure that we're doing at the most optimal times and we would work with them to make sure that we're not selling at a bad time or anything like that. So just want to make sure that you are aware of that as well.

So now I would open it up for questions or discussion, or we could move forward and Rachel Sanders could come up and give a parse presentation if you'd like that any

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ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:22:55

questions from the council?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:23:00

Thank you for the presentation and for bringing this back. My question is around the 115 trust, and I know that you mentioned how moving in this direction is typically seen well when it's presented to like Um. Creditors or whatnot, Um. Can you tell me if that's the same for the restructuring of our reserve policies like how that's viewed? Amongst creditors especially given that right now.

We're like friends instance with what's proposed with leave for nowhere near

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:23:47

Yes I think that creditors just want to see that you have fiscal soundness and that you have, you know best practices 16.7% set aside. That is your core that really that is the threshold that you should not. You should have that saved. And so, I do believe that creditors are checking that they like anywhere from You know, I saw different ones but anywhere from 25 to 35 even up in the 40 range set aside and reserves when you go out to those rating agencies and you read what they like.

They like a high reserve set aside.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:24:27

And my understanding is that the unassigned fund balance that's being Repurpose to the core operating reserve. Is that is that? Is it the same?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:24:37

No, The core operating reserve will be set aside as like a savings account. The unassigned fund balances at the end of You had salary savings or something, or your revenues came in higher and you saved some funding. That could be used as a funding source to go into the next year. Or you could take that and per policy there's some guidelines using those on one-time expenses.

So you could put it aside for your To meet your reserve thresholds, you could set aside for capital projects. You could use it on liabilities if the liability fund is running low and you need to push some there so that those decisions can be made at the end of the fiscal year going into the new fiscal year.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:25:30

So I see that the unassigned fund balance is projected to be at zero. Is that because we're moving it into the core operating

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:25:39

No right now.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:25:41

I asked because the amounts are exactly the same 26.9 million on the existing oh no sorry never mind and

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:25:49

this current fiscal year were Our expenses are higher than our revenues, and we are relying on LEAF reserves to balance the budget. So that's why we're not anticipating any savings at the end of the year.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:26:04

And then 19.8 that you have here? Oh, that was the ending projected balance for

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:26:11

this past June? The 19. 8 is the economic stabilization reserve that's been set aside for a long time. And it's the core reserve that was established in 2011

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:26:22

Oh, okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:26:27

So basically what the policy saying is that because it's 25% for the unassigned fund balance with what that is saying is that the council wants they're hoping for and they said in policy. It's kind of I don't know. It's a little weird, but They're saying we want 25% savings at the end of the year. And so you need to meet that. So we want you to come up with the salary savings. We want you to say or bring in additional revenue.

Um Which would naturally happen. I don' know if it would be 25% though, especially now we took out all the vacancies out

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:27:14

Talking about the deficit while also trying to budget out for these fund reserve balances. I don't know if I make any sense, but like for instance with the unassigned fund balance at the end it can be typical 25%, we want to see 25% at the end of the year in unassigned fund balances because of savings, whether that's salaries or whatnot. I guess my question is are we putting budgets together with this notion of we need to have that, I'm just throwing out that number, the 25% savings at the end of the year?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:28:06

I believe that past practice. No, we have not been doing a concerted effort to make that 25% But I wasn't here but the last few years since we've had this budget deficit, we have taken action. To With the hiring chill to come up with savings There's no actions taken saying, OK. We're going to you're not going to spend that contract. You're not going to fill that position so we can have that savings it. We don't know what's happening right now. But we do have a hiring chill on right now because of the budget deficit

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:28:49

because of the guy.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:28:51

And we're reviewing it. It's a chill because we're reviewing each position

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:28:58

I appreciate that. Thank you.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:29:00

Thank you for such a comprehensive report. Thank you. Appreciate it. Any other questions from the council? Yes,

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction2:29:07

I know that when this was brought up, I wanted it to go. Um, I wanted to see the budget first. I really appreciate your patience and going through this and explaining all of this to us. Thank you.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:29:19

Are there any requests to speak or on zoom or written comments?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:29:23

No, Madam Mayor.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:29:25

Okay I'll bring this back to the council. Do I have a motion? Do I have a second? Second. A motion and a second, any discussion? If not Madam Clerk can you please call the roll?

UnidentifiedCity ClerkProposed · by role2:29:40

Mayor Pro Tem Flores The

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:29:52

next item we'll consider the approving an increase to the agreement with JD Human Landscaping Incorporated to be presented by Director of Recreation and Parks Raymond Gallo.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:30:17

Good evening, Madam Mayor and council members. What a lovely evening. The item for your consideration is adopting the resolution approving an increase to the agreement with JG Human Landscaping for fiscal years 2025, I'm sorry 2025-2026 and 2026-2027 landscape maintenance services and extra services. A little background on this item. In July 2025, the City entered into a Professional Services Agreement with J.D. Heumann Landscaping for the provision of landscape services to various areas within the city.

This agreement was for a three-year term with an option to extend two one-year terms. The City is currently beginning the second year of the initial three-year term. During fiscal year 2025 and 2026, city staff approved projects that qualified under this extra services area of the agreement. In May 2026 staff came in front of council to seek an increase of up to $590,000 to cover ongoing expenses related to extra services.

I recently performed an audit of 2025-2026 and discovered that there's an additional approved work in the amount of $195,000 for work that was approved, performed, and completed in 2025-2026. Approval of this first recommendation would allow the city to pay past due invoices for work that's already performed and approved. Second part of the recommendation is the city has an obligation to provide landscape maintenance services And to meet this obligation, staff recommends continuing to implement the Landscape Services Agreement with Human Landscaping for fiscal year 2026-2027. The original contract amount is $1.083 million, 148. So $1,082,148.

And we're requesting an increase of $83,000 to that amount for added assessments to include in this coming fiscal year. To continue operations, to close 2025-2026 and to continue operations 26-27 Staff is making the recommendation that council adopt the resolution, approving amendment number two to the agreement for 2025-2026 and to approve the landscape managed services contract of 2026-2027. These items have no effect in the general fund We're discussing here addition and these payments to come out of the landscape district funding fund balances.

I am available if you have any questions,

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ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:34:13

any questions of the council? Yes, Mr.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:34:16

I do how how did staff miss these unpaid invoices of nearly $200,000?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:34:30

Okay, thank you for your question Council Member. During the period of October to close to April or May other departments including Recreation and Parks and other City Departments utilized the existing landscape contract as an on-call contract and city staff in this particular instance within the Recreation and Parks Department Did not adequately monitor the total balance that was approved by council.

And therefore those expenses were approved and the project wasn't monitored in relation to the approved amount set by council in the first original approval in July of 2025. Obviously, I verified that the work is performed was inspected. So that's not the question. The question is that approval for those additional expenses was not looked after or looked for in front of council at the time and therefore workers approved to be performed without the approval Council at the time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:35:45

Can I ask another clarifying question? Of course. Go ahead. So, is it that we went... Is it that the service requested and performed went over what City Council approved in the budget or is it that...is it that and the fact that there remains to be unpaid invoices to this contractor?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:36:16

Thank you for your question. Is it

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:36:18

both and is it both?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:36:21

It is a combination, so the contract as originally signed has two components. One is the ongoing maintenance basic maintenance services that is equivalent to a month-to-month contract and in that regard There was no discussion, staff followed council direction. That yearly amount is 1.083 million a year. The same contract has a clause giving the ability for staff to invest at that time up to $590,000 in extra services and that allows us to go after unanticipated incidents, unanticipated items that take place In landscape districts, it could be car accidents, vandalism, damage to property or it could be plant material that is repurposed or removed to allow for other landscape design to be in place.

In that area of extra services there's where the additional projects were approved so it isn't a matter of budget availability. It was a matter Inability to manage the contract in a way that we, the staff knew. The approval amount that council have had approved.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:37:42

And my other follow up is I know that in the report it says that there's no impact to the budget however. There would be some sort of an impact, because we already adopted a budget for 2026-2027. So how would this not impact the budget if it's beyond what we already anticipated spending?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:38:09

Yeah, thank you for your question. So there is no impact to the general fund.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:38:13

OK.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:38:14

What impacts is the district fund balances. And currently there's a positive balance to cover that amount. So it isn't a question of requesting general fund or requesting any budgeting. The request is to request approval to increase the spending limit for 2025 and 2026, and establish a spending limit for this coming year so that number one we can pay past two invoices with your approval to increase that amount. From 500 to 785?

Yes, and then this coming year to establish that ceiling or that approval so that we have direction on what are the council limits on our expense. So that we can exercise your spending authority in the exercise of this contract.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:39:08

And I appreciate you Distinct helping me distinguish between general fund balance and the district landscape district balance What steps can council expect staff will take moving forward to prevent this from happening again?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:39:29

It's thank you for your question I'm happy to inform that I've taken some steps on how to monitor the contract and the contractor going forward, because the responsibility of managing the contract will fall upon city staff alone. And I've taken the steps, I put together a plan that I'm piloting and that upon council approval, I will implement starting tomorrow that allows us to perform inspections, document inspections on a regular basis, several times during the week making sure that the contractor is following up the standards explained in the contract.

And that's something that was not documented in the past if it was performed, it was not documented in a way that I can assure you that it was done in the past. This plan would ensure that I am doing this going forward there will be accountability and transparency and how the contract is managed Additionally, the contract and its scope of services outlines what are the standards that the city can expect. And I intend to enforce those standards as preparation for this meeting. I have met with the contractor more than once, once in person, once virtually to discuss standards expecting that this meeting will be taking place and we'll be having this discussion. So it will be no surprise to the contractor that will be enforcing contract I'm surprised that they continued doing work for us, given how large of an outstanding balance we have.

With them. Thank you. Thank you for your question.

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ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:41:26

Thank you very much. Any other questions? Any requests to speak? No, madam. Nothing. I think written written comments. No, we did not receive any emotion.

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction2:41:39

Well, I'd like to make a comment. I think it's you've only been here for a short amount of time so really appreciate all the work put into this clearly it took you hours and driving around our city and personally seeing the different districts in the landscapes. I really do appreciate all the work you've done and I really It'll save us money, but I do understand you know there was outstanding invoices at this time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:42:07

I appreciate that. I appreciate your comment.

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction2:42:09

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:42:09

you One more question I know that there is a contract limit outlined here Can we get guarantee from staff that if we get near or if we if staff anticipates? Going over that contract budget that it will come back to us and

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:42:27

Yes, okay. Part of my plan is to establish a documenting system that is live so when work is approved as part of the extra services it will be tracked as upcoming There'll be a balance that will tell us what's approved, where we are. And I'm establishing a 25% threshold on anything that's approved, let alone implemented. So when we're approving work to be done or prior to approval, I will know where that will take us so that I know at all times If I'm getting close to the limit.

And that way allows me an opportunity to come in front of you and have this discussion before we get close to the limit. In addition, because the contract has been used by other departments and rightfully so. You know, we are trying to expedite the services to the community. We have a contract. So department like public works Does not have to go and get three quotes for work that we already up quoted, and we have a guaranteed contractor.

I'm implementing guardrails so that when public works approves work there is one approving agent for both departments that will understand that approval system and it'll end up in that tracking mechanism. So to be redundant, I am preventing a way that someone in other departments can approve We cannot work on this contract without our approval in recreation and

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:43:52

parks.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:43:55

Thank you for your question.

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction2:43:56

Thank you very much. I'd like to make a motion.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:43:59

And I just wanted to say something. I did meet with Ramon, thank you so much. He knows that this is a big concern for me, right? So I'm sure he wanted me to vote, right? But he explained everything and And he's new, and he said you know you're absolutely right. You know the job hasn't been done right. And so he said you know I'm if you'd like I'll give you times that they're out there doing the city I go yeah give them to me because I'm gonna go check.

They're supposed to be at a certain place. That's what we need to hold them accountable to taking care of our city. We pay them money to do a service for our community and our service, and that's what we expect. And we know things happen, new leadership. And so I'm grateful for your leadership there in Parks and Rec and being assertive and taking charge and realizing hey, we're not doing this because it costs the city more money.

And so I'm grateful for the conversation that we have. And I just want to say thank you for looking up for the City of Santa Maria. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:45:07

appreciate that Council Member Flores.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:45:10

Thank you. So do I have a motion? A motion. I'll second. Okay, any further discussion? If not Madam Clerk can you please call the roll?

Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 motion. I'll second. Okay, any further discussion? If not Madam Clerk can you please call the roll?
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Council Member Aguilera. Aye. Mayor Pro Tem Flores. Aye. Council Member Batalla. Aye Council Member Soto. Aye Mayor Patino. Aye

Next will be a report by David Rowland City Manager

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:45:38

Thank you mayor, there's a couple items for the next City Council meeting. We'll be looking at purchase of bus for a transit system waste water treatment master plan It's also be a library card sign up month so that'd be great Also, we're gonna start to work on the local preference ordinance We'll start going through that hopefully bring it back to within the next two months or so to get that taken care of Other thing I want to do, I really want to thank the employees here as part of SEIU. I know we negotiated a fair contract with them. They were very professional through the entire process. We worked together as a team who was not combative at all talking with our staff who is doing the hands-on negotiations. I do want to say thank you to those employees for understanding our current fiscal situation and working with us.

We will continue to work with them as well and that's all I have for this evening.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:46:29

Thank you. OK, let's do council reports. So we start with you, Miss Flores.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:46:39

Sorry, Madam Mayor. On July 23rd I went to the strawberry field day at Cal Poly which was very, oh my God it was so great. If you haven't went go, it is just so awesome and we came back with a lot of strawberries and then July 30th I went to the unveiling of the mural there at the transit beautiful, beautiful work and then Friday I went to a unity shop meeting they're looking at moving an office here

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:47:12

Mr. Battaglia

ElectedRicardo BatallaCouncilmember, District 1Proposed · by roll-call response2:47:14

July 19th I went to go support Westside Little League fundraiser because they actually made it all the way to a tournament for the first time in a couple of years. They actually went to San Diego and unfortunately they lost but for those kids I mean to make it that far was great. And July 26 I attended a barbecue event at St. John Newman Church supporting youth programs so.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:47:42

Mr. Hernandez?

CommentAntonio BravoProposed · by introduction2:47:45

Third, I went to a talk series in Santa Barbara on the 30th. I met with the Strawberry Commission and I think that's all I can think of right now.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:47:58

Okay, July 7th attended Fighting Back Santa Maria Valley Coalition meeting. And you know they discussed at this coalition meeting about drinking and they really want to come forward and do something. And I certainly hope that they do but that was the whole topic of the tragedy we had here last month and went to the Japanese Community Center With Congressman Salud Carvajal came in and because he had missed our ribbon-cutting.

And I was looking over the whole month and the different centers and parks that I had gone to in the city of Santa Maria, and how nice our parks are and so welcoming for families. July 11th, I attended the Pioneer Picnic. On the 13th, attended the CDBG Community Needs Listening Session at Shepherd Hall And it's, you get really a good idea of people who will come to a session where you've got unmet needs and because you are only just one person in this large community and they come from a different perspective on many things. And we'll see an unmet need that they think the city needs to meet.

I think one thing I found bothersome was a woman came and expressed how She felt the city needed to further help people with their water bills because these, their water bills have increased $500 and a thousand dollars. And we know that is not what our water increases. And I was it's, and this, this information is going out to the whole community that people are being increased with their water bills.

And so I think it's something that probably need, we need to address anyway I attended the Walmart Grand Reopening and on the 19th St. Paul Missionary Baptist Church, 75 years in Santa Maria and that afternoon I went over to Pioneer Park for concert in the park and they had a car show It seemed like it was very well attended. Lots and lots of cars. We have several, several car clubs in our community.

Attended the Calicog webinar discussing funding for our transportation and roads. Attended the 23rd attended Cal Poly Strawberry Center 10th annual field day and how it's changed because I went to the first two or three and the vendors there, the amount of education that they take us around so they want to educate all of us more on what's going on with agriculture and specifically strawberries. On the 26th attended the Obon Festival again at the Betts Memorial.

a showpiece for people to be able to come and enjoy themselves. The 28th attended Good Samaritan, had a Stephen Cade came to the fundraiser at the Good Samaritan where he brought his wife and family. And he goes around the country handing out guitars to homeless shelters because he feels like maybe someone will pick up a guitar and teach themselves how to play The people there just loved it. It was just like sort of a mini concert and I think he did about four or five songs but they just loved him and he brought pictures of himself to sign so it was, I think it was really special for everyone that was in attendance.

And the July 30th, the transit mural unveiling if you haven't seen it go and see it I don't think I have been to the transit center because I don't use it for anything. But if you haven't been to the transit center, go over there and look around and see what a beautiful park we have. It's just another beautiful park in the city of Santa Maria that is underutilized, completely underutilized. We should be doing things there and bringing kids there. And I don�t know, it's just really nice.

Did the Ben Hayes show this morning?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:52:21

Thank you. I attended on July

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:52:25

8th,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:52:28

7th the Japanese Community Center visit with Congressman Salud Carbajal and on Wednesday July 15th I attended the Central Coast Immigration Network roundtable And that's pretty much all. Right now, my organization is busy with its two youth leadership camps. So I'm taking up a lot of my time.

ElectedAlice PatinoMayorProposed · by role2:52:59

I forgot to mention if you haven't been out to see the soccer fields off of Depot Street. It's beautiful. It's really, really neat there. It's all green you've got the parking lot going up and I don't know when they did the light structures, the lamps there it really looks nice so we are going to enjoy it and the day it opens is still going to be too small.

Anything else? If not ladies and gentlemen this meeting is adjourned.