City Council — February 9, 2026

Good evening, everyone. Welcome to this special session for Solvang City Council. We are starting at 530. Roll call please.

Thank you

Thank you very much. Do we have any? Well, let's read into the session. Please read into the record our meeting. We'll ask for public comment after we know what we're discussing.

Conference with real property negotiators pursuant to Government Code 54956.8, Property 4784th Place Solvang California APN 139173014 Agency Negotiator Randy Murphy City Manager Negotiating Party CRA Solvange RELLC under negotiation both price and terms

Thank you. I will now see if there's any public comment regarding this issue. Seeing none, we will close it to public comment and we will adjourn to closed session We're back from closed session at 6 o'clock. Madam Attorney, would you any reportable action please?

Thank You Mayor there is no reportable action coming out of the closed session pursuant to Government Code 54956.8.

Thank you I will then close this closed session and we will reconvene for the open session at six thirty thank you Good evening everyone and welcome to the Solvang City Council for February 9, 2026. Please everybody silence your phones before we get started and we won't call out for you there's a special tax coming up just for that so yeah we'll get started okay roll call please

pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

Thank you Jim. Okay we get right at it here, we have no proclamations and we have no presentations so we're going to go straight to public communications would you read that into the record please?

At this time you may address the council on items not on the agenda and on consent. Time limit is three minutes, we will start with in-person public comment first.

Okay I have one request here from Lisa Mesa please.

Good evening, Mayor and members of the Council. My name is Lisa Mesa and I am a resident and business owner. My husband and I own The Good Life here in Solvang. I'm here tonight to speak on behalf of the small businesses that give Solvang its heartbeat after the sun goes down. Specifically, I'm asking the council to reconsider the $200 temporary use permit requirement for businesses hosting live music. While I appreciate the city's efforts to streamline the old conditional use process Adding a reoccurring financial hurdle to culture is a step in the wrong direction for our local economy.

We all know that Solvang is a world-class destination, but for those of us operating on these streets every day, the cost of doing business has reached a breaking point. Small businesses are currently being squeezed from every side. Rising overheads with we're navigating unprecedented spikes in utilities and labor costs, recent fee hikes, we've already seen increases in our business license fees and a BID consideration coming up, and rent pressures. Commercial rents in the village continue to climb. A $200 fee might seem nominal in a city budget, but for a small wine bar or restaurant coffeehouse it represents another death by 1,000 cuts.

When you tax an activity like live music you aren't just collecting a fee. You're disincentivizing the very thing that keeps locals and tourists in our seats after 6 p.m. Live music is not a temporary use of our space It's a vital part of our identity. At The Good Life, we've hosted live music every Saturday night for almost 14 years and in those 14 years, we have had zero noise complaints, zero police interventions or safety issues and thousands of happy guests who stayed in Solvang an extra hour or two, bought an extra glass of wine or a beer and supported a local musician because of the atmosphere we provide Our musicians are local residents and when we host them that money stays here.

When a visitor hears a guitar drifting out of a cellar or on a patio, they feel that hygge that we promised them and if you make it harder or more expensive to provide that atmosphere the music will eventually stop and our nightlife will go quiet with it. We want to be compliant and be good neighbors I ask the council to remove the $200 fee for businesses that host live music. Let's not put a price tag on the vibrancy of our town. Instead of creating a new barrier, let's reward the businesses that have spent over a decade safely and successfully contributing to Solvang's culture. Let the music play without the extra paperwork and the extra payout.

Thank you for your time.

Who, is there anybody? That's all the slips I have. Okay if you haven't filled one out please come up say your name and your deal your points but you'll be there's a three minute limit and there's other people behind you so thank you.

Hi, my name is Eric Sobel. I'm here to speak on the same issue that Lisa did. I am a local musician who has been playing regularly in Solvang for years. I wanted to share what this new live performance feed looks like from the perspective of someone who makes their living playing in these rooms. Most of the venues that host live music here operate on very thin margins.

When an added fee is introduced, it doesn't get absorbed. It often becomes the reason a venue decides they simply cannot afford music anymore and that is already happening. Several local locations have already discontinued their live music events. When a venue cuts live music, it's not just a musician losing work. It's fewer people coming downtown, fewer people staying longer, fewer people spending money or choosing somewhere else over Solvang.

Live music creates atmosphere. It gives this town warmth, character and soul. It's part of what makes Solvang feel alive not just visited but experienced. I understand the need for policies and balance. I'm simply asking you to consider whether this fee unintentionally discourages something that brings both cultural and economic value to the community. Is your return on investment actually worth what it will cost the community?

I hope you reconsider this fee and we'll work with venue owners and musicians to find a solution that keeps live music part of Solvang's identity. Thank you.

Hi, thanks everyone. What's your name?

My name is Peter Lanskowski I'm from Funnel Girl Wines if that isn't obvious. I'll try not to repeat the other things that were said because I also agree with those but try it from a different point of view as well so one of the difficulties I guess from a standpoint of I understand where the city could be coming from this is two reasons why this is happening One is because it's trying to control noise or complaints, or it's trying to raise revenue.

If it's trying to address some sort of music complaint I'm not quite sure where that fits within Solvang because most of the places...I think the biggest noise complaint would be issued against the city because they host The wonderful things in the park, and I'm a big supporter of it and I love it. But they probably do the most raucous bands and the loudest music. From point-of-view of revenue raising one of the difficulties for a lot of small businesses is they go out on their own to try to promote the thing... ..the question that gets asked time and time again is, hey guys what's there to do after 6pm in Solvang? And so a number of businesses try to stick their necks out and make an attempt to provide something to do after six o'clock We do too, but it becomes really difficult if you feel a little bit like you're on your own.

Coupled with that one of the things that happens is that you know this city wonderfully and I'm very appreciative of this spends quite a little quite a bit of money and effort and time and resources to promote Solvang to bring people into the city And it kind of reminds me of something from about 1,000 years ago when I used to wear a suit and write synergies on a whiteboard and drink coffees. I reviewed a strategy for the State Government of Victoria as part of another team. One of the things they did is they highlighted we want to increase public transport travel by 25%.

And no one ever actually kind of thought about what would happen if they achieved their goals. And so they did, but no one thought to bring on the train drivers or the trains to meet that and people were crammed in. In a similar way we're spending a lot of money on bringing people here but at the other end providing barriers to the businesses that will provide the nightlife when they get here.

So that's the kind of point I wanted to leave with you on the table.

Thank you. And we have... Go ahead. Please share with us your name and company you represent, and if you're a resident of Solvang.

My name is Keith Cox I'm not a resident I live in Santa Maria my regular job at work for the Santa Barbara County Education Office But my other job is a musician. I've been playing music for over 25 years, almost 14 years here in your lovely town that I adore by the way. So some of the things I wanted to point out that didn't get pointed out is kind of the fact that really your fee is very punitive for these small businesses and They have to pay not just that, but BMI fees, ASCAP fees.

These are licenses so that when a cover music musician shows up they're paying for it. So just like jukebox fees and everything like that. And those are really expensive. So they're already putting out that much money just to have live music. But then it's just sort of adding on a little bit And it's very difficult, and we are seeing already once this announcement was made. I've already had three of the venues that I play here out of five say sorry, yeah, we're cutting music. And we do count on that as musicians. We of course love it to entertain everybody, keep everybody happy but we also need that revenue ourselves so it's just something to think about because you are hurting your businesses as well as people who rely on that money and as well as the tourists who come in.

They do enjoy that music as well so it really needs to be considered and I thank you for your time.

Thank you very much. Is there anyone else in the audience? Is there anyone on Zoom that would like to speak? Okay, I will thank everyone and I'm going to close public comment. Thank you We'll move on to City Manager's report please.

Thank You Mr. Mayor Council Just a few things I wanted to point out, remind everybody our trash cleanup is scheduled for next, not this week Saturday but next Saturday the 21st from 8am to noon in parking lot 5. That's one across the street here from City Hall and the Fire Department. As per normal, you need to be a resident of Solvang and a customer of Waste Management. You have to bring a bill and some identification to show you live here.

Also a reminder, there's sheets up here on the table that have QR codes for our newsletter if you haven't signed up as well as flash vote. We just did a survey last week to help inform the council on their goal setting session that we had on Saturday And we had 219 responses, so obviously we'd like to engage more of the community to get the margin of error down from plus or minus 8% into the you know two and three percent kind of thing. So I'd like to get more people sign up so that QR code is there And there still is information, our QR code about information for the Business Improvement District that we're starting to do the legwork on to see if that's a viable option for the city. That's all I have for now.

Okay thank you any questions of the City Manager? Yeah, so far. Okay

Government Code Section 53232.3 D aka AB 1234 and government code section 84308 aka SB 1439 report out. Ex parte communications council comments requests.

Thank you. You want to start off on the left? Do we have anything?

Well, sure. Only two things I just as a report out, I attended the Santa Ynez Foundation Aquatics Polar Bear Plunge on Saturday and No, I recognize several others who were there too so maybe it'll make you go faster but it was a great event really great to see the community come out and You know bring their kids and their families get in the water and show us how this new facility might be used in the future and how much is needed. It was great to hear from the high school kids, in particular, to tell us how constraining the current facility is. And even though they probably... The kids will move on by the time the new facility comes out from a sports use.

They come back as community users but they were invested I wanted to respond. The public comments, public discourse is so important I think for us to hear from the business community that maybe we didn't get something exactly right on the temporary use for music. So I'd like to revisit that if we can. That would be my request.

Thank you. Ms.

Smith? Just a couple of things, I attended via Zoom webinar hosted by the Institute for Local Government and it was basically ballot measures and candidate elections and what local leaders need to know and how public funds should be used And I did attend the Polar Plunge along with many people here. I attended, I did not participate and I'm grateful for those who did.

And also attended on that same day our goal setting strategy session which I found very thought it was a great opportunity and I think we came up with some great ideas. That's about it.

Thank you. Mr. Fonte anything to report? Any comments?

Yeah, and I also attended the Polar Plunge. I'm a little resentful that neither of you chose to jump, but yes, thank you for that. And thank you for everybody that has contributed so far. It's great to see the community come together for projects like this And thank you to everybody that took the flash vote survey. It's very important to have input like this for decision making and goal setting. Thank you for everybody that came out, it was great to be able to work with staff department heads we yeah it's great too. I would like to see temporary use permit come up to see you know if there's a way that we can better do that but don't be surprised if that goes away and I bring my punk band to play sometime.

Priceless. Good, okay I've got a couple things. I did view or didn't participate really but I did view the hands-off Greenland rally that we had in the park. A couple other of us here were at that. I thought it was well attended and very peaceful, and it was just exactly what it ought to be as a part of representing someone's First Amendment rights. I had an interview with the Taiwanese news crew that is similar to our PBS. And I think some of you have already seen the link to that, that's been translated I want to make a shout out single-handedly turned that person around and they're now quite the advocate of Solvang. So, thank you.

Just one at a time. Also I want to extend congratulations to our city manager who won an award recently and will be presented with that this week. And I think it's a well deserved Not only does it, it was submitted by his staff. So says more about it than any of the rest of us that could have submitted that same recommendation or nomination, so congratulations to him.

Also I was at the Vandenberg Space Force Gala celebrating what they've accomplished over the 2025 and in full disclosure my wife won a door prize From the sponsor was Kia of Santa Maria, so. No it's a new car, some swag if you will. It was a backpack, a ball cap and a Costco gift card to be honest with you. So anyway. But we did pay for our own dinner. I'll leave it at that, we were one of those guys. I did attend the polar bear plunge and not only did I attend, I was kind of headlined on it where we had a spirited competition with Buelton and their mayor Dave Silva. And we had a cannonball contest so one and done, it was pretty nice but It was warmer in the pool than it was outside, so the air wasn't that difficult.

And then I was hopeful that in line with the comments about the live music, I'm wondering if our communication there could use some help and perhaps There might be a better way in the newsletter to approach it or educate why that is, or the difference between the previous special events and today's current TUP. And the fact that that license would be all year but that would be something I'd like to have the manager perhaps put inside the newsletter.

So tonight since that's not on the agenda, staff has taken the direction that you all want to at least three of you want to have that issue come back and be revisited so we'll bring that back under a different agenda item. But yeah no council action on that

tonight. Just to be clear the TUP was also questioned as part of the land use at that mission so this will include this as part of the discussion

Okay, and then let's see. Oh I went to I joined a city manager and supervisor Hartman at a hub meeting that has got most of the discussion was as it relates to the cross cross-trail multimodal We had a lot of stakeholders at that meeting. That concludes what I have to share on item 5.

Consent is for routine administrative city matters and is approved with one motion. These items are discussed only on request of council members. Members of the public were afforded an opportunity to speak during the public communications portion of this agenda.

Thank you, any concerns about the consent items?

I have a question on one item so I'd like to pull item 6E. And so I'll make a motion to approve all consent items 6A, B, C, D, F, G, H and I. Is

there any second? I'll second. Or any others? Okay it's been properly moved and seconded to accept item 6 A, B ,C,D,F,G,H,I Item 6E is a

contract

being sensitive about our expenditures and our fees, I suppose. We're going to talk about budget in a few minutes but I am sensitized or at least alerted when a contract either the rates or the total value of the contract is increasing by anywhere from 28% to 50%. So I wanted to ask two questions on this contract. We're now extending the contract at $50,000 per year I believe. What was our original contract value per year on this? Yeah

it was...I don't remember the exact amount but it was within Okay,

so it was below 30. I thought it was for some reason I remembered around 36 but I might have been confusing it with the marketing contracts So it is increasing to 50,000 or at least not to exceed 50 which means it is increasing more than 50% in its total obligation and so my question Is this a month-to-month agreement? Or are we obligated now for a full year?

We're obligated until the end of the term, which I believe is 2028 or 27. Yeah, it's not per year. It's a total amount. Thank

you for

clarifying that.

Okay and so we are paying hourly rates as opposed to... So if our meetings go long we pay more if we're out of here by say 7 30.

That's a four hour minimum.

Four hour minimum?

And and if we're here longer than the cost of being less that's a four-hour minimum but it's for this meeting is for the Planning Commission and it's for the DRC Any meeting we have, James or one of his counterparts here it's $122 an hour beginning I think.

Do we have a plan to RFP this anytime

soon? It hasn't been done in a while but we'll look at it when this contract is up.

I just, I think we need to take a posture or maybe a more consistent posture when we get these fee increases that are imposed on us to either negotiate or RFP especially if they're in a range of 30% to 50% increase

This situation came up because we had an increase in our insurance requirements and the owner expressed a concern that he was, we're his only client that has those specific insurance requirements. And he had to change his insurance or increases in the cost part of the cost was that Part of it was an increase in his labor, but there was you know It's it seems to be a big number because this is it's a you know another two year two and a half years so You know on an annual basis not that much but

Yeah, I think I just want to see us begin Or become aware, maybe it's when you present this in the packet that we know you did some diligence before we just accept the increase because all these increases stack up right and We just heard everybody's feeling in the pinch. We need to be Responsible stewards for every dollar as well.

Yeah, and we don't have current staff that is capable of operating the system

understood

Any other discussion What would that be on an annual basis? Is there, what is the increase annually not cumulative? Okay.

It actually is about a third increase it went from $9 an hour to $122 an hour but because of some of the added meetings and things and its value of the contract went up 50% but in the actual hourly rate went from 90 to 122

Thank you. So

I'll move to approve item

6E. I'll second that. Roll call, please.

Motion passes 5-0

Thank you Okay, we have no public hearings so we'll move right to discussion item 8a Would you read that into the record please

Approve mid-year budget review and budget adjustments for fiscal year 24, excuse me 2526.

Thank you staff report please.

All right good evening Mr. Mayor council members and members of the public tonight we'll be reviewing budget adjustments for the fiscal year 2526 for the period of July 1st 2025 through December 31st 2025 And the mid-year budget adjustments incorporated updated revenue projections and necessary expenditures that have been identified through the first six months of the fiscal year.

And these adjustments include both ongoing and one time adjustments. For the general fund, we're looking at increasing the TOT revenue to by $1.4 million. General fund expenses for a total of $357,350. Measure U, $30,000 expenses. Water, $135,864 in expenses and sewer, $34,969 expenses Staff recommends that City Council approve the proposed mid-year budget adjustments for fiscal year 25-26 as presented.

And with that, I will pass it back to council for any comments and questions.

Thank you. Any questions? I'd like to hear from the city managers as far as, you know, the expenses increase and they in the TOT increases. Does this keep us well within... From your management perspective is what I'm asking about for our fiscal accountability and continuation in these matters?

Yeah we're, you know, We had the new 2% obviously increase, actually it was a 14% increase but 2% is an amount and it's coming in better than we expected. So the amount for the increase and then the other things are, you know, the overtime for instance was due to several call-outs from the Water Department. It's specific to the Water Department and we've had three major water main breaks and in a couple other minor ones so that's all over time and you know the total amount for that is not much but it is trying to anticipate what we're going to spend before or through the end of the fiscal year. What I

see here is a revenue measure of $1.4 million, but I see

on the same page under General Fund Department

administration net change of $ 1.1 million. I'm just saying. Can you be more specific on the administration side, I guess?

Yeah, the administration's expenses were $357,000 so if you take that, subtract that from the 1.4 million, that's the net change. So you have the revenue and the expenses in the administration portion of it where the water and wastewater and public... Water and wastewater they just have

So it's all cost, but you're using a title of administration.

Well, administration is the legal expenses for the South Coast properties and an increase in expenses for education and training. And then you have... so if you look on the first page, you have recreation as an expense adjustment for $26,000 General Fund Revenue $1.4 million

I'm not trying to be obtuse, I'm trying to

absorb

it. So if you take the $357,350 expenses, you add

the $200,000, the $5,000 Under recreation tourism 26,000 public works maintenance 2200 Veterans Hall the 5,000 in the 1350 and under Public Works City Hall parks parking lots and restrooms you would add up the 3,000 11,000 1,500 that 80,000 the 2,300 and the 20,000 So that's, so under general fund you have administration parks and rec public works. And under public works you have the facilities you have streets sidewalks parking lots restrooms and maintenance for all the

facilities. Yeah, because we're only considering the Delta here, the changes that you're making. Yes. Thank you. You had some questions?

Well I had... there were three or four things that jumped out at me and staff answered some of those questions so I do want some clarity and maybe make a suggestion on two items. The $80,000 custodial overrun That's in the first six months of the year, is that correct?

Yes. And I was looking at the figures and last year we spent $465,000 in custodial expenses and so that $80,000 puts us on in line with those actual expenses.

So that means we also overran again because in your table you're showing us that custodial our projection was $340,000. Correct. We're coming in at 420 which is lower than last year but maybe we need to Do we need to renegotiate that contract? What drove the $80,000 overrun?

We had more people throughout the first six months come for the cleaning. And then also too, we just estimated it low for this last year.

So how does that contract work though Wendy? I thought it was a fixed... do we call them for emergency cleaning or something? How do we overrun

We call them for emergency cleaning and then they also opened up the sunny fields park because we lost an employee. And it's been three or four months since that employee hasn't worked with us, and so they take that extra on the weekends. They take that extra shift and open and close the bathrooms as well. So that's an additional charge and they charge per hour Bridget and I went through all the invoices and the only thing we found was a $2,800 Thank you for that second question.

I think I understand the power pumping increases. $132,000 is a big number too for overrun. So just can you give us some context

what drove that significant increase? It's for the increase in electrical costs and because we're having to pump more to get the water those costs have also gone up once we get you know hopefully we get more rain and we don't have to use as much water Is that the well

that we're going to potentially replace or move?

That I do not know.

Does anybody know, is that why it's driving more energy to pump more because we had one of those wells that wasn't giving. Do you remember that Mark?

You're thinking about the HCA well that we want to do some more water saving down in the aquifer. I don't think we've gotten to that point yet.

No, no, we do have a plan for an additional but that's because we need to relocate the one that's not producing as much as it usually is.

Are you referring to the river wells? Yes. So those there's wells that are in the riverbed but there's also upland wells and from here I don' know which one.

Maybe it's a follow-up Is it because we're in the pinch that we're in or because we got a ton of rain, right? So I it doesn't seem to align with what's

happening. But overall We're having to use the pumps more to pump the water even though we had you know, all the rain that we had the prior months and the costs have gone up extremely high. And I actually just talked to our 3CE rep, and she said that the generation charges are going to be going down because they had to increase them so high but now that they've increased them too much We're going to get a 25% reduction starting in the February bills for March, which will compute out to about $3,000 a month. But she said PG&E is going to also increase their charges for distribution.

So we're looking at a... You never get a break. No, we're looking at a credit but What that credit will be, hopefully we'll get a credit. MPG&E doesn't raise their rates astronomically but it's just costing more.

Just generally like whether it's the river wells or the upland wells, as the aquifer gets if it's lower, it's harder to pump the water. It takes more electricity. You've got to run the pump longer and then the cost of electricity is higher so those are two things working against. Rain is good but it takes a long time for things to refill and recharge an aquifer. So we wouldn't see this season's rain in an aquifer quite that fast.

The other thing, I mean it is an increase in utility costs but we're also pumping more water because we haven't had sustained periods of rain. We got a bunch of rain but this time of year if you get a storm every few days people turn their sprinklers off but because we got all the rain at once and then we go three weeks and we've got 80 degree weather People are watering their lawns now. And so we're also pumping, that doesn't have as much to do with where the water is coming from it's just has to come out of the ground and there's a cost associated with that. We're also, we are pumping the well that we can't have in production because we're trying to clear that perchlorate and it's coming down a little bit so the hope is at some point we get back under the maximum contaminant level and put that well back into production

My next comment would be about forecasting and understanding what those projected costs are so we don't feel like we are behind the eight ball. It looks like an unpredicted cost. And then I would say the same thing about our revenue stream as well, because understanding that these taxes are new and we don't know what the pattern is going to be yet but as we get more informed about the revenues associated with the new taxes We should include those in our first pass of the budget.

Why? Because it gives us more discipline about how we're spending the money, as opposed to just counting on windfalls. Yeah right

and we always err on the conservative side of the revenue to be safe

I have another question regarding legal fees for admin. It says that the current budget is $211,000 with an increase of $200,000 but then the revised budget says it's $610,000 so there's about a hundred and eighty thousand

I don't have that in front of me. Oh, you're looking at the budget adjustments? Hang

on. Yes, the expense adjustment chart.

Increase power costs... That would be a typo. That should be $411,000. Yeah, so the current budget is $211,000 plus the $200,000. That should be $411,000? No because the current budget's $217,000 plus the increase. Yes

Okay I'll open it to public comment

if there is any. I don't have any slips anyone here?

I will move to accept the midyear budget.

Can we have a clarification that that includes the edit to the legal fees to be $411,000

in the budget? Yes. I'll modify my motion to include the change pointed out on the legal fees budget mathematics.

Is it okay with a

second? I will go along with that.

Very good. It's been properly moved and seconded for approval of item 8A as edited. Roll call, please.

Motion passes 5-0

Thank you. Thank You Wendy Okay, we'll be

Budget adjustment to enable a citywide curb marketing inventory project.

Thank you. Staff report after you shuffle the chairs here.

Good evening council and community. This is for the approval of a $30,000 budget adjustment for curb wide marking inventory for the city through Z World GIS. And the city currently doesn't have a comprehensive inventory for the curb markings which would be you know where all the curb paint is green red white yellow those type of things And so this is our first attempt at creating a GIS database for the curb markings that we will be able to use to create maps and to do some assessment of on-street parking, and eventually establish a curb and street marking code.

This project is in We are reaching out to Z World GIS because staff does not have the special equipment, any GPS units or the mapping products that we would need to properly do this inventory. So with this project, they'll be going out. They'll be doing field work and assessing the entire city for the curb markings and then they'll also in a smaller downtown area from Elm to Oak Street, they will be measuring the curb lengths from the curb return to a driveway so we can have a better understanding of how much parallel parking we actually could have downtown with all the constraints that there are, including hydrants and things like that.

Thank you.

I know some people bootlegged their own curbs, you know painted them red that aren't supposed to be but we don't know that and this will tell us that because we know what we've painted versus someone else.

Well, partly although it will also allow us to have kind of a framework and that would be in the code itself to have a framework for where the red curb should be. It would really be, you know we'd look at where the red curb is existing and then say okay that is a hydrant right there so that makes sense or that one right there. It looked like maybe that could actually be a loading zone. You know maybe the color doesn't need to be red maybe it needs to be green 15-minute parking or something different

This study Counterfeit painted curbs, I guess for lack of a better term. If somebody's painted red and it ought to be yellow we wouldn't know the difference would we?

As to what it

should be.

no but um well we would eventually what essentially uh they're doing with the database is establishing where the red curb or yellow curbs are and then that second process which we can do more internally would be having a municipal code that says you can paint a red curb The current scope is to give you the database and baseline.

Yes and to add a little bit to it, so in order for it to be enforceable unless it's already like it's in vehicle code or other highway code like fire hydrants or curb I mean corners or crosswalks kind of mid-block stuff needs to be in the city's ordinance so that it can be enforced. And as was pointed out there are bootleg markings and which is not enforceable and Again, this is a longer term process but it's to help identify parking areas that are and aren't allowed.

And so for the ones that are legitimate red curb then we can become be able to enforce

them. I'll open it up to public comment if there is any. Mr. Beebe please?

Mr. Mayor council members, thank you for your service of our community I heard Bridget say that one of the outputs could be potential additional parallel parking I think you certainly should consider where the potential diagonal parking ought to be too

Thank you any other comment Anyone on zoom any hands up there? Okay, I will close it to public comment and move on back to Council for other questions and action. Yes?

I just wanted to add this was not rolled up as part of the budget adjustments that you just considered. I wanted to make this more, you know, more comment on it, make it more publicly noticed that this is an effort we're making to help improve things.

Thank you. Any other questions? Okay. Entertain a motion for item 8B.