BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 January 11, 2011

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:03 · ≈ 9:01 AM

2011, my my. 1111. To order and you'll probably never hear that again Mr. Allen. How about a roll call?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:15 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Ms. Wolfe?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:16 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:17 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Ms. Farrer?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:18 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:18 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Mr. Lavagnino? Here Mr. Carbajal? Here Ms. Gray?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:22 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Present Let's do the Pledge of Allegiance

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:36 · ≈ 9:01 AM

One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:47 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Thank you and it is quite appropriate that at this point in time we take a moment of silence for the folks in Tucson that lost their lives and also for those that are recovering Thank you. Report from closed session?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:13 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Madam Chair, there were no reportable items but your closed session will continue at the conclusion of today's meeting.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:23 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Approval of the minutes of January 4th 2011. I'll move approval.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:28 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Second.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:29 · ≈ 9:02 AM

All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Any agenda items that need to be removed to be discussed? Mr. Allen?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:39 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Madam Chair, members of the Board, Item A1 from General Services. The request is that the Board consider recommendations regarding a fourth amendment to the Melchiory Construction Contract and Professional Services Agreement, and this has to do with the EOC building. And the request for this item be withdrawn from the agenda at this time and General Services will bring this back as appropriate.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:59 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Thank you, Mr. Allen. Any others that need to be discussed, Mr Allen?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:06 · ≈ 9:03 AM

I have no other items that I'd like to discuss. I believe we have some requests to speak though from the public. Any

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed3:12 · ≈ 9:03 AM

board members? Janet? Yes, I'd like to speak on item A5. Doreen?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed3:21 · ≈ 9:03 AM

I have just a few questions on A5 as well. I'd also like to speak on

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.693:27 · ≈ 9:03 AM

A5 as well.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:27 · ≈ 9:03 AM

Alright, why don't we just read A5 into the agenda right now and then what we'll do is we'll read it into the record. Mr. Caldwell also wants to comment on this so we'll take the board members comments and Mr. Caldwell's and then we'll answer the question.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:42 · ≈ 9:03 AM

Madam Chair, Members of the Board item A5 comes to the board from Public Works Department and the board acting as the Board of Directors of the Water Agency The request is that the board acting as the Board of Directors of the Water Agency consider recommendations regarding funding for emergency sedimentation removal for Twitchell Dam in the 5th District. And then, that's a four-fifths vote and then item A is to approve or authorize the Public Works Director or designee to execute an MOU with the Twitchell Management Authority in the amount of $350,000 to help fund the emergency de-silting at Twitchell Dam for restored water conservation releases and B, approve a budget revision for the water agency to release designations in the amount of $350,000 to pay for the costs associated with the execution of the above-mentioned MOU.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:25 · ≈ 9:04 AM

Thank you Mr. Allen. Supervisor Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:27 · ≈ 9:04 AM

Thank you Chair. When I read this, I had some questions and I went back and looked and obtained more information on the Twitchell Dam. And I've had a lot of conversations with Mr. Fairham and I appreciate all his work to help me better see what this proposal is all about and where the money is actually coming from. So what I'm understanding is that there's an agreement, theoretically an agreement to pay that the county would put up $350,000 which was to be half of the cost of this emergency project And I asked Mr. Fairham to provide me with an actual breakdown of the cost of the project and the actual cost by the contractor is $500,000 and there's some other cost contingency is 57,000.

What I'd like to recommend is that we allocate instead of the $350,000 that we allocate $250,000 which is half of the cost for the contractor which is what was originally specified in our board letter and that should the district request more money because of contingency needs or whatever that they come to the board for that. But this is a large amount of money I do think it's worthwhile. This is an important project that needs to be done, but I just think from a responsible standpoint that we just move forward and change it to $250,000. That's based on the actual contractor amount from Wood Brothers Inc., and actually the amount they had specified has been reduced to 500,000

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed6:27 · ≈ 9:06 AM

Supervisor Carbajal. Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm not quite as equipped as Supervisor Wolf with more detail but it brings me to my point. I probably at the end would be fine with the item before us but what I found myself and I didn't have the benefit of contacting Mr. Fairham or Ms. McLaughlin on this but what I found myself going through as I was reading this report was The revelation of a lot of other questions which I'm not sure I understand. For instance, we're having a very difficult financial year as we all know and we're trying to make sure that we look at CRAF and other resources we have to see what they can be used for or not irrespective of our past practice as it relates to what we've done with the water agency for Kachuma versus not Kachuma but what I would like to understand is a little bit more of the water agency And the resources that are there in that account, what the flexibility is of those resources.

Historically what have we used for Kachuma versus Twitchell? Why are we recommending this? I think a good case was being made in this report but more importantly just to understand the bigger picture because quite frankly if we don't have to use the money for Kachuma and Twitchell which I understand if we do Then what can it be used for? So I have a lot much other questions that are germane to the issue before us.

And maybe at the end of the day, I'm going to get answers to all those questions that make sense and I'm going to be completely fine with it. But for me, all those other questions came into play that weren't fully answered in the staff report and perhaps I should know more about this but in this case, I just feel that I don't have a complete picture I recommend if there's no time urgency that this come back as a departmental item to give us a much fuller briefing on this and then get into issues like Supervisor Wolf is stipulating on whether we fund it at a lesser level, more level or the same or what have you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed8:44 · ≈ 9:08 AM

Supervisor Lavinino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.698:46 · ≈ 9:08 AM

Madam Chair, you know I think Mr. Fahram, I've spoken with Mr. Fahram as well had a chance to go out and visit the site I prefer that we deal with it today just because it's an emergency situation. This flow needs to be there, I don't know if anybody else has had the chance to be out there but the silt backup on this is preventing flow that is absolutely critical for the Santa Maria River Valley water basin and ground water recharge for our farmers. I also appreciate the City of Santa Maria is also kicking in $350,000 on this and I'm afraid if we go ahead and lower down We're going to get into a position where our partners are going to lower it as well. I'd like to ask Mr. Farram the difference of what we're talking about for the $700,000 and the $550,000 that was in the contract.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed9:40 · ≈ 9:09 AM

Mr. Farram, we're going to hold you until we get all because you're going to have a lot of questions to answer.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed9:45 · ≈ 9:09 AM

Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed9:47 · ≈ 9:09 AM

Any others? No.

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CommentAndy CaldwellProposedself-stated9:57 · ≈ 9:09 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board, I'm Andy Caldwell. I had a professor in life that mentored me and one of the things he taught me is that non-events sometimes speak louder than events. And when this item was called Supervisor Wolf didn't ask the district supervisor of the 5th what is your position on this? Why is this important to your district? He says you jumped the gun wants to lower the amount.

I agree that, you know we're in a budget crisis and we've got to question all things that few weeks ago I tried to question some expenses and didn't get very far. You know the bottom line here is ag is the most important sector of our economy and most of that ag production is in the Santa Maria Valley And if you're ignorant on what Twitchell Dam does, and if you're ignorant about the silt up and the dangers that it poses to not just the aquifer but to the city of Santa Maria and infrastructure. If you're ignorant of the history of flooding in the Santa Maria Valley then get an education. So bottom line is this area right here, Supervisor Gray you know this and so does Supervisor Lavinino there used to be a river that ran right through this property Right through this property there was no historical natural levee in the Santa Maria Valley.

The whole valley just flooded, it was just a plain and in reality downtown Santa Maria was where the river usually flowed right next to the mall And so the levee is important and of course there's been some levy repairs, not enough. Obviously Guadalupe is suffering but part of what keeps that levee functioning is Twitchell and I'd like to know if you heard that Gibraltar had a problem or Kachuma had a problem or Jameson had a problem, you probably would have called a special meeting and said we need to get this fixed right away But if it's Santa Maria and something you don't fully understand or appreciate, all of a sudden now you're going to be fiduciary stewards.

And try to whittle something down without even talking to the supervisor of the district. The acrimony we used to have between North and South ended with Joe Centeno and Naomi Schwartz because they respected one another. I expect you to show him respect And defer to him for stuff in his district like you would want him to defer for things in your district. Let's not go back to those old days.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed12:59 · ≈ 9:12 AM

I have to absolutely respond to that because that is so insulting.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed13:04 · ≈ 9:13 AM

Ms. Wolf, could you let me maybe do it? Give me a chance if I don't do it right, it's yours. I am going to try extremely hard this year to keep the board on professional. Mr. Caldwell gave us some interesting information and I'm not just...I'm not gonna pick just on Mr. Caldwell but I hope that he gets the message What we're trying to do is a professional job. We are not attacking board members, and that was totally unnecessary to point out to Supervisor Wolf how she should do her job. We all do our jobs to the best of our ability because when a person that's up in front of us and asking us to consider their information starts out with a negative you're a bunch of idiots kind of statement or there's one idiot among you What it does is it throws a wet blanket on the information they have to give us.

I am going to ask those that lobby this board and those that want to talk to us, that they treat us with the respect that we will treat them with. And so again without mentioning names, I would like to point out to people to please keep your statement on topic. And with that, I'll go to you Supervisor Wolff. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed14:24 · ≈ 9:14 AM

I appreciate your comments, and I think it's important that when people come up that they understand more factually what is going on. My intention was to get the facts as I do in every board item. I sent an email to Mr. Fairham just asking some general information about this project And then he answered those questions and sent the email to Mr. Lavagnino's staff, basically stating if these were some of your questions that you might have here is some information.

Over the weekend I read the entire Twitchell Project report. I would wonder how many people in this room have actually read that report? It's not because I don't care about Santa Maria, quite the opposite. I understand what the sedimentation issue is at Twitchell and I want to ensure that this project is done. Because it's come to us at the last minute that we have a strong understanding about why we are spending this money. I said that I felt that $250,000 was reasonable if the board wants to allocate $350,000 that is the boards decision. I just wanted to bring that information up and I have nothing. against Santa Maria. And again, in fact I think I care quite a bit about the folks who live in Santa Maria and the 5th District and the 4th District so again I take up a lot of offense to those earlier statements.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed15:58 · ≈ 9:15 AM

Thank you Supervisor. Now Mr. Fahyram if you can sort out what just happened that wasn't what your questions are we're gonna go to your question or the questions that you think you need to answer

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed16:12 · ≈ 9:16 AM

Supervisor Carbajal. Mr. Farrum, I read this report and there was no over urgency that was listed on here and I know that our board in the past when a board member or two raises issues of clarification wanting more information unless there's eminent public safety involved we usually try to acquiesce that And I will continue to reiterate that I'd like to hear from you the urgency in this because I would like another week to have a departmental hearing and to really better understand this thing.

I probably am going to be fine with it, but there's nothing wrong for me as a decision maker and the public to have a little bit more information.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed16:52 · ≈ 9:16 AM

So Mr. Farram, it appears to me that the questions that you're going to be responding to, and then would you also tell me... There was a recommendation for $500,000. There is a question can we get by with $200,000? There was a broad-branched question by Supervisor Carbajal that can we, in fact, postpone this so it can go on as a departmental item. And there was a concern from Supervisor Lavinino that Santa Maria might withdraw their $350,000 and we're also looking at some kind of urgency. Any other things that you're going to be answering?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed17:28 · ≈ 9:17 AM

Well, Madam Chair, let me try with what I have in front of me. First of all is for the urgency and just the background on this was in December we were approached by the Twitchell Management Authority TMA and we have representatives from them here today and maybe they can answer about the urgency. I could tell you the work is ongoing and in fact almost done. They took that step because there was the urgency They also realized that this had to come to the board and that there's no money appropriated until the board does so. There was no meeting at the end of December as you may recall, and so we actually got it on the board in going through the regular process and then hence its here today.

Can it wait until next week? I'd maybe ask Rick Sweet from TMA just a comment on that. The work is almost done, but again this is a decision for your board as to what level you want to fund this too.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed18:25 · ≈ 9:18 AM

Supervisor Farr do you have a question regarding that? Yes just particularly due with the timing so in looking at this MOU This is part of this five-year capital program projects You know that you talked about back in April And then there was an emergency permit that was good until December 31st of 2010 for this particular work, correct? So this work has already been started.

And so some money has been upfronted by the City of Santa Maria. This is the $350,000 Supervisor Levin, you know. So we're being asked to come in to help finish paying for it, is that correct? I'm trying to get the timing.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed19:11 · ≈ 9:19 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Farrar, that's basically right at the initial discussions with TMA they were going to be doing this work there's not really an option to do the work or not it has to be done they are doing it they requested our assistance because the water agency is the contracting entity for this project and like other projects we have cooperating with them that's why we opted at the staff level to move forward and ask your board

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed19:36 · ≈ 9:19 AM

And then if not now, perhaps later. What I don't see here is a more specific breakdown of the $700,000. So we have the $500,000 for the actual work. We have 10% contingency and then the balance has to do with other quote unquote project costs so I'm just kind of wondering what those are because if those are all like administrative fees that kind of come back to the city or the Twitchell management, I think that would be good to know. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Mr. Fairon, you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed20:09 · ≈ 9:20 AM

can continue.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed20:10 · ≈ 9:20 AM

So Madam Chair regarding the can we do just half of the construction? I think it's at your board's discretion. Just briefly for Supervisor Farr's question the construction contract is just about $500,000 then there's monitoring inspection and mitigation that's associated that brings that up to the $700,000. I just asked Mr. Sweet if he thought the project was going to be different than $700,000 significantly less or more if it's more obviously None of that is on the table. If it's less, I'm sure Mr. Sweet would be agreeable that we would pay actually half of the actual cost which I think are going to be close to $700 if that's an option. Mrs. Sweet, why

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed20:48 · ≈ 9:20 AM

don't you come up here and join us so that you two guys can answer these questions together rather than guessing? I'm a little scared but I will. That's all right. I know. You stepped into the lion's den. The first couple meetings always go this way. You never want to be the first couple meeting's agenda.

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CommentRick SweetProposedself-stated21:11 · ≈ 9:21 AM

Hi, my name is Rick Sweet and I'm here as chairman of the Twitchell Management Authority today. You may also recognize me as the Utilities Director for the City of Santa Maria. The Twitchell Management Authority is a weird entity called A Court Appointed Attaché. And the Twitchell Management Authority as an entity rose out of the groundwater litigation. We represent agricultural and municipal users in the Santa Maria Valley.

The purpose of the Twitchell Management Authority is to prepare a yearly groundwater monitoring report and to enhance or preserve the twitchel yield, which produces ground water primarily for agricultural really in the Santa Maria Valley. Well, municipal entities use some primarily for agriculture. The, it's a complex thing as water always is. The Santa Maria Valley Water Conservation District actually operates the dam. They came to us with a project which we helped fund the permitting of. At that time they believed they had money for the project. It was an emergency project. They needed to perform releases not just for groundwater replenishment but also for emergency purposes. If you cannot do program releases and there's a flood behind Well, all hell breaks loose because the water will then be released but not in a programmed manner so there'll be flooding throughout the valley.

So it was a project that came to both the Twitchell Management Authority and the Water Agency as an emergency because it was a project that we thought was funded but had no funding. So Tom and I met and said how the heck do we fix this thing? We asked the Santa Maria Valley Water Conservation District to reduce the size of the project to the minimum that we could have so that we could try to put together enough funding to make this work.

Because of the extreme amount of environmental monitoring involved with the project, there are significant what we call soft costs. We ask the project to be reduced to $500,000 in construction money and the remainder is in environmental monitoring and construction management monitoring. These are real costs these are not administrative fees these are not money that comes back to us as an entity or the city as an entity these are real construction costs So that's where we are today.

Quite frankly, the Twitchell Management Authority does not physically have enough money to step up to this if the county doesn't assist in this manner. So we're in a jam. We looked at an emergency situation. Tom and I got together to try to figure out what's the best way to solve this emergency? And that's where we're at today. If there's anything else I can assist you with, I'm certainly there and hopeful. Let's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed24:06 · ≈ 9:24 AM

see, I think Supervisor Wolf was first and then Supervisor Carbajal.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed24:12 · ≈ 9:24 AM

I want to thank you for being here and I'm sorry that you felt intimidated but you did a very good job. And I'm a little bit of a softy when it comes to emergency issues. Excuse me. And hearing what you just said, I feel comfortable in moving forward. I know Mr. Farrum has looked at this with the $350,000. I do believe Mr. Farrum that and we talked about this yesterday and looking at the budget for the water agency Because you had mentioned there was about $6 million in reserves, five or six. And we were looking at the budget and it was a little difficult to actually find that line item. I think given what Supervisor Carbajal had said that it would be useful for us to have a better understanding of the water agency where our money is going and where it could go.

But your sense is that we have this money available to help you folks, and I'm fine moving forward as it's written. Mr. Carbajal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed25:22 · ≈ 9:25 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. I think there are two issues here. One is the issue before us. I still think a week would be fine but I am willing to go forward with the item before us today. For me the bigger question like I said earlier I have no idea what the guiding decision-making principles are for that water agency reserve. Where does it go? Where does it come from? What discretion do we have? Can we use it on the whim? Who comes up with spending that money? What about other items that we have going on for Kachuma? What about other items we have for water quality issues?

I just don't know. And all those questions were kicked up with this report of, well wait a minute, on the whim let's match $350,000. There's a lot of other good projects in light of our financial constraints that we really need to look at to see if part of this reserve can fund and I don't know the answers. So whether it's a separate item, we can vote on this today but I will say that it's also good to understand the historic decision making that we made on this reserve and the future because again Tom with all the respect you know I think the world of you I think decisions for that reserve, we need to be apprised of what flexibility we have versus Tom getting together with the City of Santa Maria and deciding this is a good project. I need to know it's a good project beyond your good wisdom.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed26:49 · ≈ 9:26 AM

It sounds to me as if we need to put that on the agenda, Madam

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed26:54 · ≈ 9:26 AM

Waller.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed26:58 · ≈ 9:26 AM

Got to make this mic work. There we go. Chairwoman Gray, Supervisor Carbajal. I think those are all excellent questions and I know that we have that information. There's a lot of it in my proposal would be to put that together for you and ensure that you get it all and then possibly discuss it if you'd like to at a future board meeting because I think it's important for not only you but also our stakeholders and our citizens to understand How particular funds can and cannot be utilized. I think that's something that we could probably put together in the next 30 days or less for

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed27:32 · ≈ 9:27 AM

you. Water issues are amazing, I've

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed27:34 · ≈ 9:27 AM

been working

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed27:35 · ≈ 9:27 AM

on them for what? 20 years. Who is next? Supervisor Farr.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed27:40 · ≈ 9:27 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. I just wanted to say that I appreciate the information that both Mr. Fairam and Mr. Sweets gave and I'm satisfied going forward with it. The way its written now.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.6927:50 · ≈ 9:27 AM

Since this is my first item and its turned into a nuclear war

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed27:55 · ≈ 9:27 AM

You haven't seen Nuclear War. I

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.6927:57 · ≈ 9:27 AM

don't think you've seen Nuclear War. Good questions are not on Nuclear War. No, no, no. I do want to say something. I do want to say something. Now, I do want to say to Supervisor Wolf that I did not feel slighted in the least. I appreciate your interest in this item just as we're all going to be interested in every dollar we spend and so that didn't come from me. I appreciate Mr. Caldwell's history lesson on Twitchell but As far as how we're going to run the board, I appreciate that it's going to be between us. Do

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed28:32 · ≈ 9:28 AM

you have a motion?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.6928:33 · ≈ 9:28 AM

I would like to move this one forward please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed28:35 · ≈ 9:28 AM

And I'll second. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Thank you. So we got taken care of A5. Now A6 Mr. Caldwell do you want to talk again? And if you'd like to read that, Mr. Allen?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed28:49 · ≈ 9:28 AM

Madam Chair and members of the Board, Item A-6 is from the County Executive Office. The request is that the Board receive and file an annual report from Thomas Walters & Associates regarding federal legislative activity.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed28:59 · ≈ 9:28 AM

Mr. Caldwell?

CommentAndy CaldwellProposedself-stated29:00 · ≈ 9:29 AM

Madam Chair and members of the board, I'm Andy Caldwell representing COLAB. We have a couple of things on today's agenda regarding legislative platforms One of the things that was concerning, and we do appreciate when supervisors and city councilmen take time out of their schedules to go back to Washington DC. We know that's an arduous journey and it pays to have people on both sides of the aisle lobbying people back there. However one concern that I had in reading this report is that We believe that when somebody goes back there to represent the county of Santa Barbara or the lobbyists take a position representing the county of Santa Barbara, then the County Board of Supervisors should have taken a vote on those positions and that the public should be apprised of all the positions that are being lobbied for.

And specifically, I understand you have a ledge program. And sometimes that ledge program might have general goals. And then somebody goes back there and lobbies either a county official, either like the department head or county supervisor or the lobbyist we pay. They go back there and they say in the name of Santa Barbara County, we want to endorse HR whatever.

And I'm not sure if the public knows that the board's doing that or that the lobbyist is doing that specifically. You have a ledge program, and I know that from time to time you bring forth pieces of legislation for endorsement. But the point here is when somebody speaks in the county's name, the county oughta know about it. And to some degree, you should have some confidence that the county actually supports that You know, one of the most controversial issues in California and Santa Barbara County is offshore oil.

I would venture to believe that if we had a county-wide referendum on the ability to do slant drill projects from existing platforms or slant drill projects from onshore locations that the majority of citizens in the Santa Barbara County would support that. In other words, I don't believe that the citizenry would like to see us have a $90 million deficit and billions of dollars worth of assets offshore that we're not tapping into.

And I would actually dare this board to put it on a ballot especially in view of the fact that we send back position statements to Washington supporting for instance Lois Capps' proposed moratorium for offshore oil What I'm saying is, I don't believe Santa Barbara County voters support that position. And so nobody should be speaking as if they're representing them.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed31:59 · ≈ 9:31 AM

Thank you Mr. Caldwell. Supervisor Carbajal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed32:03 · ≈ 9:32 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. I guess just to provide clarification for Mr. Caldwell since I am the one that's ventured to D.C. representing our board and lobbying for our priorities. If I could draw your attention fellow colleagues, Mr. Caldwell and the public Every time that I go to Washington, I come back and I issue a thorough report that delineates every meeting I've had, the issues we discussed. The notes, major significant feedback that we've been given by legislators both Republicans and Democrats. I provide that to our board so that there's a full understanding of every meeting, every staffer, every legislator that I'm meeting with including staff that accompany me And what we gleaned from lobbying for those priorities. And every year now, for many years, we've been producing our legislative priorities both for the state and the federal government.

And this has really been the guide that leads to the information we provide to the legislators and staffers. I, for instance, am an equal opportunity lobbyist when I go back to Washington for our board advocate should I say Because what I advocate for are our priorities. I remember being back in Washington once and somebody making a reference, if the levy's not in your district why are you lobbying for it as your number one priority? Well, it was our board's number one priority and when I go to Washington to represent our board, I don't go to represent my own interests or my outside interests outside this approved legislative platform This is what I represent.

And if anybody would care to make an inquiry to any of our representatives, Congresswoman Caps or Congressman Gallagher, I think you will find that that's exactly the approach we take when we go back to Washington. So I just wanted to make that very clear that there is a thorough report that is docketed for our board every time after we come back a few weeks thereafter.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed34:12 · ≈ 9:34 AM

Thank you, Supervisor. Any other comments? I think it's time to approve the administrative agenda if we have nothing further, Mr. Allen? Nobody in Santa Barbara wants to chat with us today?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed34:23 · ≈ 9:34 AM

No request to speak.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed34:24 · ≈ 9:34 AM

Is there a motion? So moved. Is there a second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Now, I can get... Mr. Council, on the administrative agenda, I forget. Can I do a voice vote or do I have to do a roll call?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed34:41 · ≈ 9:34 AM

Well, you can do a voice vote. Okay. The only time you really might want to do a roll call vote is if it's pulled for a specific board member to vote perhaps on a conflict issue or something of that sort.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed34:53 · ≈ 9:34 AM

Because I was confused because sometimes when money is involved in other organizations I've worked with you had to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed34:58 · ≈ 9:34 AM

have... We watch the agenda if a four-fifths vote is On the A agenda, we will call that to your attention if there is not a porpoise vote supporting the entire admin agenda.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed35:14 · ≈ 9:35 AM

Okay now thank you and all of you just remember I haven't been chair for a long time so if I foul up you want to say Joanie. Okay we are going to go to board member reports who'd like to start? Supervisor Lavinino

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.6935:31 · ≈ 9:35 AM

Thank you, Madam Chair. It's been an interesting week for me. We've been setting up our office. I just want to thank all the county staff that's been available for me. I kind of feel like I'm about 25 feet underwater right now but working our way up and I can see the light at the top of the water break there so just again thank you to the CEO's office, the rest of the supervisors' offices have been very helpful in helping us get started here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed36:00 · ≈ 9:36 AM

Supervisor Carbajal.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed36:02 · ≈ 9:36 AM

Thank you Mike, just very brief this past week has been continued ongoing meetings with various constituents in my district and constituents throughout the county.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed36:13 · ≈ 9:36 AM

Supervisor Farr. Thank you Madam Chair on Friday night I attended the Solvang Centennial kickoff celebration it was a wonderful event with the room was just packed at the Hotel Cork I don't know how many hundred people were there And I had Danish dancing and a walkover to see the annual Christmas tree burn. And back for a lot of interesting Danish history, Solvang history with a Stump The Dane contest where you had a lot of the descendants of the original settlers Solvang there, so it was a really wonderful event and of course this is just the beginning of a whole year of activities. So I've said it before, I'll say it again come to Solvange and enjoy the fun. Well in

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed36:57 · ≈ 9:36 AM

one of these days Supervisor you need to wear your Danish costume for us! I think I'll have Linda Johansson come in and

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed37:02 · ≈ 9:37 AM

she's got the whole helmet with the horns and everything and the braids.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed37:06 · ≈ 9:37 AM

I think the Supervisor, you know the vote is the Supervisor. Heavens to Betsy, I dress like a cowboy during the rodeo Supervisor Wolf.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed37:18 · ≈ 9:37 AM

Thank you, Chair. Last week I attended Department of Social Services hosted a Poverty 101 seminar. I attended for about half of it. It was very interesting. A woman spoke about her issues dealing with poverty and I thought it was very informative Over the weekend I attended Kids Helping Kids program. That's a program that San Marcos High School puts on with their AP Economics class. They had over 1,400 people at the Granada Theater. They're hoping to raise $150,000 for Unity Shop and a few other organizations in the community. This program has been running for nine years and is Probably one of the most amazing things that I see or go to is we all go to so many events and this is an event that's put on by high school seniors.

Two of the gals who sang, it was a program but two of the individuals, young women who sang and I swear they sounded like Joni Mitchell were actually two of the women. She didn't say Joni Gray. No, maybe you sing like Joni Mitchell too. They were part of The Madrigals and so it was nice to see them singing at their ganada I know it's the kids over here misbehaving. Anyway, it was quite impressive. Supervisor Farr and I attended a Highway 154 meeting before our South Coast sub-regional meeting so we're continuing to work on that and also for anyone who would like to come to my office we have a new art exhibit from our alternative school very interesting artwork in my office so it's been a very Nice,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed39:08 · ≈ 9:39 AM

interesting week. Thank you. Thank you. It's so interesting to hear what folks have to say. We've been busy in North County and one of the big reasons is we've opened Union Valley Parkway which has it's just something that we've looked forward to since at least 1975 however it's a change so the folks that are driving it are having trouble Adjusting to having this new road. So, Holly Holden with the Santa Maria has issued a statement about how people need to do things they're worried about trees they're worried Roads they're worried about, walls. And as people adjust to this new road being in will keep you apprised but it's just amazing how you want something so badly and it's so needed but then when it gets here it's a change. Changes are difficult to deal with.

So Union Valley Parkway has been high on our agenda and of course we did have a lovely funeral and goodbye for Supervisor Fletcher And that was a big part of what we did this last week. And with that, I think that concludes our reports and thank you all. And so we need to go to public comment.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed40:28 · ≈ 9:40 AM

All

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed40:31 · ≈ 9:40 AM

right let's start with Gwen Wood. Good morning Gwen, we're glad to have you with us today. Good

PresenterLinda JohanssonProposed · by introduction40:45 · ≈ 9:40 AM

morning Madam Chair, members of the board I would like to extend a warm welcome to our new 5th District Supervisor, Steve Lavinino. Congratulations on your win! I'm hoping in the coming years you'll do good things for Santa Barbara County. As you no doubt know, Santa Barbara County's crime problem has steadily increased over the years due in large part to unchecked illegal immigration.

Just as the federal government has failed to protect our borders from millions of criminals who have entered our country illegally So too has Santa Barbara County in failing to protect its legal citizens from crime carried out by illegal aliens. Santa Maria is the hit and run capital of California due to the high incidence of vehicles accidents caused by illegal aliens.

In addition, Santa Maria was just ranked 150 on the FBI's list of the 400 most dangerous cities in all the United States again outranking the city of Los Angeles. To put this in perspective, there are approximately 75 other cities our size in America and yet Santa Maria is pegged as one of the most dangerous. Santa Maria's crime problem is well known. What we have in Santa Maria is a sanctuary city because our city officials refuse to engage ICE in its policing.

But unlike Santa Maria, the city of Lompoc has made great strides in its gang problem not only because they implemented a gang injunction a few years ago but also because they routinely use ICE in their DUI checkpoints. As grim as these statistics are however I believe there is hope for California and this hope comes by way of Assembly Bill 26 AB 26 was recently introduced by Assemblyman Tim Donnelly of Twin Peaks, California in answer to public outcry over illegal immigration and this bill if it gains momentum would have a profound impact on stemming the tide of illegal immigration.

AB 26 would prohibit public officials or agencies from adopting policies that limit enforcement of federal immigration laws It would also restrict employers and businesses from knowingly employing unauthorized aliens, and requiring them to verify employment eligibility through the e-Verify program. AB 26 would end sanctuary cities by enabling citizens to sue government if a city operates as a sanctuary for illegal aliens. This bill would also establish a process in which people can file complaints of employment violation with the Attorney General or a district attorney.

AB 26 would also establish the Gang and Immigration Intelligence Team Enforcement Mission Fund for the purposes of gang and immigration enforcement, and for county jail reimbursements relating to illegal immigration. California's unemployment is a horrendous 12.4 percent, second only to Nevada. Today I'm letting you know that Americans want jobs to go to legal American workers and this legislation is one part of that solution. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed43:45 · ≈ 9:43 AM

thank you. Thank you Miss Wood. We'll go to Santa Barbara now for David Diaz. Mr. Diaz?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed43:59 · ≈ 9:43 AM

Good morning board, good morning board member chair. My issue today was that young lady who is killed in Tucson reminded me when I was a little kid here in Santa Barbara in the first second third grade I'd run around town during election year to the Republican headquarters and Democrat headquarters just so anxiously Wanting to understand and learn and be a part of the political process.

The mental health issue in this state, in this country, and I hope Wendy McCaw you can put your little article in your 100 days of Reagan that you have in the Santa Barbara News Press. The period where he freed and did not want to financially support people with mental issues taking them out of institutions and jails it's quite sad It's finally gone full circle. I thought this was going to happen decades ago, but fortunately it did not and unfortunately it just happened this last weekend.

It's very important that we keep an eye on what we're doing to the most vulnerable in our communities because that's where the disease begins. And the mental health issue is something that's not going to go away, and we have to deal with it. So in my question I hope all you Reaganites when you're looking back and seeing how glorified Reagan actually was he was a part of the official decay and perhaps we can learn from this event going full circle now and hopefully we can go in a positive direction and work together and not be so agitated at each other politically. Thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed45:34 · ≈ 9:45 AM

Thank you, Mr. Diaz. And our final speaker what I have is Sharon Knotts. Mr. Caldwell are you going to do a public speech? OK.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed45:53 · ≈ 9:45 AM

Good morning. Good morning. I am here. I voice the same opinions as Miss Woods First off too, I'd like to sincerely congratulate Steve Labagnino. I supported him all the way. I was very impressed by his recent article and also too, by the way, like to congratulate... We have a new council member here? Is that correct? Mr. Boieson? I thought he was anyway. I thought we had a Santa Maria Council Member here as well but guess not.

Anyway, I would like to direct this towards When introduced and she explained to you Bill AB 26. It highlights on the e-verification which I believe is so desperately needed. We have a high population of unauthorized illegal aliens in the North County, in Santa Maria and with that you have magnets and with that you have a domino effect. Right now we are in a huge budget crisis all of you are trying to figure that out it's going to be a very hard year for that Governor Brown just released yesterday saying that cuts are going to be coming from mainly social services, Medi-Cal welfare and these things that are essential that draw these workers here. Mainly to Santa Maria because of our agricultural belt.

I'm glad that Steve is able to look through the rose-colored glasses and address this issue. It's been a very politically correct issue, or in his words to the San Ynez Journal it's the sacred cow. I own a business every day in Santa Maria. I have to turn kids away that need jobs that are not able to get jobs mainly young boys that are in school that haven't Figured out what they're going to do, so these are trade skilled jobs. They can't get them in construction anymore. Construction have all been pretty much hired out here in Santa Maria. It's gone beyond the strawberry fields. Girls that also as well face the problem of not being bilingual. So they come to us which are very few and far between now and I just...and even men and women now that cannot get jobs here in Santa Maria I'm just asking that you please listen to Steve and support him for this bill.

It's going to be hard. The best thing, I do believe is you have to detour or take away the magnet which is bringing them here. I have no problem with workers being here. I worked with Cesar Chavez in the fields with my mother when I was very young. His idea was that You know, everybody wants to come here. They do want to work but we do have laws and there are legal green cards that they can but believe you me the majority of them do not do that. We know they do not do that and they are taking away from things that We right now in a horrible situation need to give to our own. Thank you Ms. Knott,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed49:09 · ≈ 9:49 AM

thank you for being here and I believe that concludes our public comment is that correct Mr. Allen? That's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed49:14 · ≈ 9:49 AM

correct.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed49:15 · ≈ 9:49 AM

Alright with that let's take a 10 minute break and we'll be back at ten minutes after ten. Yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed50:41 · ≈ 9:50 AM

What the Tennessees Do. Watch out. Hello. Hello. Hello everyone. Hi. You. . . Hi. Thank you. Hello. What's up? Hey.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:01:22 · ≈ 10:01 AM

It's time to reconvene and thank you all for being back in your Places. Mr. Allen, I understand that you're going to be continuing number one or taking it off the... What are you gonna do?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:01:53 · ≈ 10:01 AM

Madam Chair and members of the board, item 1 is from County Executive Office Human Resources. It's a hearing to adopt proposed revised county of Santa Barbara telecommuting policy and direct the implementation of those provisions. And we are going to withdraw that and bring that back to the board. Do

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:02:08 · ≈ 10:02 AM

we need a motion to do that? So moved. Is there a second? All in favor? Opposed? Mr. Allen, number two.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:02:17 · ≈ 10:02 AM

Madam Chair and members of the board item two also from the County Executive Office is a hearing to consider the 2011 Board of Supervisors schedule of meeting dates and locations. And this item was previously before the board on December 14th and the board adopted a schedule that's reflected as attachment A with the board letter at that time the board directed staff to return January To ratify the schedule and also to allow Supervisor Lavinino an opportunity to discuss that and comment on it. And in addition to that, we're also recommending that the board cancel two additional meetings and that would be February 8th and March 8th. We have at least two members of the Board of Supervisors who are required to travel on county business on those dates.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:03:04 · ≈ 10:03 AM

Okay. Ms. Waller did you have something to say?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:03:09 · ≈ 10:03 AM

I was just going to add to that a suggestion that since both of those meetings that we're proposing to cancel happened to have been in Santa Maria, perhaps that we do one meeting that month in Santa Barbara and then the third meeting which would typically be a Santa Barbara meeting in Santa Maria.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:03:24 · ≈ 10:03 AM

That

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:03:25 · ≈ 10:03 AM

sounds

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:03:25 · ≈ 10:03 AM

reasonable.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:03:27 · ≈ 10:03 AM

Madam Chair, I'm just a little confused. So February 8th is to be canceled? And what was the other one we were gonna cancel? March 8, OK.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:03:38 · ≈ 10:03 AM

Yes we have supervisors that will both be traveling on those days and so I think we can still accommodate all of our items on two remaining meetings this month.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:03:49 · ≈ 10:03 AM

All right, so you're going to make which one then? The Santa Maria meeting?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:03:55 · ≈ 10:03 AM

With the meetings of February 15th and March 15th would be conducted in Santa Maria.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:04:03 · ≈ 10:04 AM

OK is there a motion? So moved. Is there a second? All in favor? Oh, I'm sorry. Supervisor Lavanino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.691:04:13 · ≈ 10:04 AM

I wanted to comment just one thing. Go right ahead. Okay, I wasn't a big fan and I know this was brought back for me. I wasn't a big fan originally of losing meetings and eliminating meetings but what I would like to see done is maybe we take this as a six-month chunk or six or seven months bring it back and see if there is a cost savings or how we're doing. I know we're always able to add meetings but I like the schedule as long as we're losing meetings in Santa Maria, we're bringing them back to Santa Maria. I'm okay with that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:04:42 · ≈ 10:04 AM

Okay so a six month review. Oh Mr. Caldwell wanted to talk on this. I didn't get this until just now. So hold the motion for just a moment. Mr. Caldwell?

CommentAndy CaldwellProposedself-stated1:04:54 · ≈ 10:04 AM

Madam Chair and members of the board, I'm Andy Caldwell representing COLAB. You're going to have to cut costs every which way you can this year to survive, not just this year but for the next several years. However we would like to see at a minimum at least one meeting a month in the North County to facilitate access and face-to-face contact with the board for residents throughout the district. But the other thing is In light of the impending crisis, some people would make the argument that you might need more meetings rather than less as this crunch time ensues especially with the unknowns happening in Sacramento and even Washington DC.

I would also encourage you...I've worked in three counties in 20 years. I've always been in Santa Barbara County but I worked for a couple of years in Ventura, and I've worked for a couple of years in San Luis. And I'm honest to God not trying to be critical here but just factual. I can tell you guys have the longest meetings of any other boards I've ever been to.

In Ventura what they do is they have a staff report maybe two to four minutes just highlighting the issue The chairman calls for any questions or comments contrary to staff recommendation, they call for the question and it's over. In San Luis Obispo you can set your watch by their schedule. You can literally set your watch And in this county, I understand that sometimes I'm the problem.

Or Sister Janet or somebody. There's other times where we have board members interrupting staff every five minutes. They can't even get a few sentences out. Sometimes we debate things before the item, during the item and after the item. And there's a lot of reasons why the meetings go so long. I'm saying this to say the following. Sometimes four meetings a month, you've taken up the full amount of those days.

How long are three meetings a month going to last? When we first started COLAB this board met until 7, 8, 9, 10 or 11 o'clock at night back then. Michael Allen remembers he was there. And so you're going from four to three, you're gonna have to change the way you do your meetings to get done in time or we're gonna have evening meetings and last thing I'm gonna ask is and I've already mentioned this to Supervisor Lavinino's office sometimes I come back here after the radio show the doors locked So you're going to have to keep somebody here to facilitate the public access for the North County if you go to three and you go past five. Go to three meetings a month and past 5 p.m.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:08:02 · ≈ 10:08 AM

Mr. Collo, could I ask you a quick question? Since I'm going to have a couple of times off, would you suggest I go observe Ventura or San Luis Obispo?

CommentAndy CaldwellProposedself-stated1:08:12 · ≈ 10:08 AM

I haven't been to Ventura, I've only been to one or two of Ventura lately. I think they still pretty much run on time. San Luis is like I said you don't have to go anywhere they're online so you can but their schedule...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:08:25 · ≈ 10:08 AM

You know though it's just so much easier if you make yourself sit through it

CommentAndy CaldwellProposedself-stated1:08:27 · ≈ 10:08 AM

you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:08:27 · ≈ 10:08 AM

know?

CommentAndy CaldwellProposedself-stated1:08:29 · ≈ 10:08 AM

San Luis is closer. Okay thanks

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:08:30 · ≈ 10:08 AM

will

CommentAndy CaldwellProposedself-stated1:08:31 · ≈ 10:08 AM

do. But anyway I don't have a problem with you guys cutting that back but again like I said the budget hearings and things like that are going to be problematic and typically Typically it's a truncated budget hearing, as you know. So we'll

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:08:46 · ≈ 10:08 AM

work on that. Thank you very much. Salud, you had it. Mr. Caldwell?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:08:50 · ≈ 10:08 AM

Madam Chair I appreciate Mr. Caldwell's input and perspective but I don't know about San Luis but I know Ventura County has a...I'm going to venture to say they take a different approach on land use I don't know why, but I know they don't really deal with as much land use as Santa Barbara County does. And when you do go down there double-check that issue to see if that is one of the reasons why oftentimes we get into much lengthier hearings. But double check that to be sure.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:09:21 · ≈ 10:09 AM

Well and you know folks, when I suggested that we go to the three meetings because of the cost and so on, San Mateo County which is very similar to us in larger, they do three meetings Their supervisors seem to have no problems. Anyway, we'll give it a try. I think we're going to vote to support that. We'll give it a try and see if we can save some money. Ms. Waller, just the paper alone and the staff person that has to put together the binders.

See what we save because we are really all about saving now. Any other comments on this issue? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Thank you so much. Let's see. Mr. Allen.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:10:03 · ≈ 10:10 AM

Madam Chair, Members of the Board, Item 3 is from the County Executive Office. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the 2011 Legislative Platform.

GuestCarbajalProposed · by introduction1:10:13 · ≈ 10:10 AM

Ms. Mosnach. Good morning, Madam Chair and members of the Board. This item is on your agenda for consideration of the proposed 2011 Legislative Platform. Just in terms of a little discussion about how we arrive at the platform that is before you today, we begin the outreach process in October and begin working with our departments, our federal and state advocates, and our entire delegation in posing one simple question. What can we do legislatively to either find efficiencies, enhance service delivery or receive additional funding to the county?

We then ask each of the departments to prepare a legislative brief that succinctly describes their overall needs, and we then bring that to your Legislative Committee for review. The Legislative Committee is comprised of Supervisor Carbajal, Supervisor Wolf, our CEO, our County Council, and our Auditor-Controller. They then spent four meetings specifically reviewing not only our legislative principles which I'll go over with you in just a moment But each of the legislative proposals brought forward by the departments.

We're now before you today for consideration and adoption of the proposed platform, and once adopted we will then begin the outreach process to our delegation and key representatives which we believe can be most helpful in achieving the goals set forth in the overall platform. First of all, just to speak quickly to the legislative principles. These you've seen before you for a number of years. I won't go through each of them in great detail but these basically form the guiding points or the foundation of how we proceed throughout the legislative platform over the course of the year. The various briefs contained in the platform are very specific. They speak to the overall need and strategy of given items. But these again are our guiding points and they speak to specific issues regarding efficient service and delivery of operations, ensuring fiscal stability.

In this particular one as you know the Governor just released his budget yesterday. This is an item under this category you won't see specifically in one of the briefs but we spent a significant amount of time analyzing the Governor's proposal and we will be discussing with you at an upcoming meeting the specific impacts of what is proposed. We also speak to interagency collaboration, looking for partnerships wherever possible to streamline our services and deliver services in a more effective means. We know in these difficult economic times that the county cannot provide all services to all people. We need to find ways to work with our partner agencies in providing a safety net

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:12:53 · ≈ 10:12 AM

of services. Supervisor Carver-Hall? Thank you. On that issue I just wanted to remind our board that two cities we have partnered with amongst others City of Santa Maria with the levy and city of Santa Barbara with the Mission Creek project.

GuestCarbajalProposed · by introduction1:13:06 · ≈ 10:13 AM

Absolutely, thank you Supervisor Carbajal for that comment and that partnership becomes even more important when our supervisors work especially back in Washington and showing there are regional partnerships formed it really helps our pursuit of key funding where we can show its not just a county request its with all stakeholders Local control, we often advocate for local authority to control governance issues.

This again will become very apparent as we continue to go through the Governor's budget. One of the key concepts that he refers to is again sending services locally and we certainly have our fingers crossed about sending dollars locally to provide for services. We also talk throughout our platform about protection of our safety net services ensuring that our most vulnerable populations their needs are met And we talked about community sustainability and economic stability. So in terms of the overall legislative principles, again these help guide us as your legislative staff in reviewing various pieces of legislation and determining position statements and bringing additional questions forward to you for consideration.

The components of the 2011 platform, we took a little bit of a different approach this year. We broke it into three key areas for consideration. Appropriation requests, proposed legislation and targeted advocacy. To start off with our appropriation requests Many of these you've seen before. Santa Maria Levee, again looking for funding to complete the repairs on the third reach of the levee. As you recall we have received $40 million in ARRA funds through the Army Corps to work on this project We've determined in consultation with the Army Corps that there's an additional reach that needs to be met, and we'll be working to advocate for funding for that reach. And working with our partners within the City of Santa Maria.

We hope they'll join with us in advocating for these monies. Lower Mission Creek again will be looking for moneys to repair that issue. That's another $2 million dollars to be specific that we'll be working in consultation with the City of Santa Barbara on. Lake Kachuma, this item has been before you on a number of occasions. This is to address the surcharge of the lake. Most prominent for this issue this year, we'll be looking for funding for the water treatment plant. That is the most critical facility that we now need to relocate and that is at a cost of $2.7 million. We'll be looking for funding for Goleta Beach County Park now that we have a Vision 2.0 that has been determined and before your board will now be looking for that initial several hundred thousand dollars in funding to complete a revised EIR and eventually look for the capital construction monies needed.

Safety improvements, public beach access. This is Santa Claus Lane. This is providing for safe beach access across the railroad tracks. We'll need to be working in conjunction with the Public Utilities Commission and other stakeholders as well as Caltrans and looking for money in that area. We anticipate that we have approximately a $400,000 request this year. And again, that's just for a phase of the project. Capital construction is significantly more Veterans Memorial, we've been very successful in securing funding for the Lompoc facility. This year we'd also like to suggest funding for the Santa Barbara facility. They have a number of facility issues and ADA requirements that need to be met. We'll be searching for an initial infusion of money of approximately half a million dollars in that area.

The courthouse, again a number of issues. The range of issues that can be addressed here could range in the several million dollar range. Again ADA improvements, improvement overall to the art and architecture. We usually seek specific program funding through the Federal Arts Program for this particular facility. Also before you is a request for money to upgrade The Santa Barbara Health and Human Services campus through ADA upgrades again.

And funding for parks and open space, looking for funding for Gaviota Coast, funding for Walter Capps Park, and access to Point Sol. Proposed legislation this is the crux of our platform this year never before have we had such an aggressive proposed legislative platform in which were seeking six unique pieces of legislation The first, alcohol licensing. This is basically aligning the requirements of wine bars that require very strict licensing with wine tasting facilities which since 2010 have been allowed to do full pours of wine as opposed to just taste equating them in terms of overall Overall licensing to wine bars, so we're looking at working with the state government in aligning those alcohol licensing requirements.

The district attorney has suggested a number of legislative enhancements to strengthen the penalties for truancy, cyber bullying and sexual crimes. We'll be working with the district attorney and her professional association along with our state advocates in pursuing this item. The elections process, our clerk recorder assessor has suggested a number of efficiency measures here allowing for the consolidation of precincts and allowing for greater vote by mail presence. We anticipate that this will be of great interest to a number of counties. We'll be working with CSAC on this and we also anticipate that this will be a direct cost savings to the county of several hundred thousand dollars if we're allowed to streamline our elections processes and provide for greater vote-by-mail.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:19:01 · ≈ 10:19 AM

Supervisor Wolf?

GuestCarbajalProposed · by introduction1:19:03 · ≈ 10:19 AM

Oh, okay. The next one, emergency medical services funding is something you're all aware of. Maddie will be working again to extend the sunset on the Padilla bill allowing us to continue to maintain over $700,000 that directly goes to our trauma care facilities. In addition, we'll also be working to again take an overall look at MATI to see if some of those additional funding can again be restored. At one time you might recall that over $2 million was brought into our county trauma care facilities from this particular funding source.

Highway 154 was mentioned earlier in the meeting. We'll be working in conjunction with City of Buellton and Solvang, and I understand they have items on their city council agendas in support of this particular effort to restrict traffic by trucks by size and weight, and also to restrict the hauling of hazardous waste and hazardous materials on that particular highway.

Lake Kachuma quagga mussel, this is a very innovative approach that we're recommending to the board. As you know we've had some concern over time about potential for an infestation of quagga mussels within Lake Kachuma as a primary water source for the South Coast. We're always quite concerned about that particular facility. We have a proposal within your platform in which we would work with the state to impose a vehicle license fee on boats, increasing the registration fee on boats which would yield approximately 18 million dollars statewide and we are proposing that that money could then be used statewide to assist various agencies on setting forth quadrimestral reduction efforts, and providing for wash stations and the type of things that we have that we truly have no funding for coming directly out of the general fund.

Targeted advocacy, I won't go through each of these. These are the items that you see every year. These are critical to what we do as a county in terms of key items that we support both at a state and federal level that we are constantly advocating for additional funding or additional legislation on each of these items. They range from securing Williamson Act funding, which as you know has been a major source of concern for us for many years to ensuring child care and also providing for in-home supported services and local control speed limits. Again, you've seen these multiple times they're detailed in your platform if there's any questions on specific items I'd be happy to discuss them.

The new request, just to highlight and distinguish from prior years. I mentioned the Health and Human Service campus upgrades, the Santa Barbara Veterans Memorial Building as distinguished from the Lompoc facility which we've received money for in the past. The proposed legislation items each of those items is new for this year they'll require a significant amount of time from staff's perspective in working with our state advocates introducing this legislation these items just in terms of timing Items for legislative consideration are due to Legislative Council in Sacramento within the next couple weeks and then we jump full speed into the legislative process.

Targeted advocacy, again we wanted to remind the board that they had heard about the Stage 3 child care issue in the past. We wanted to ensure that was within our targeted advocacy section of the Thank you. The platform, my recommendation to you would be that we do so. It is consistent with what the county participates in. We have members, your board sits on the adult area aging network. We do have departments involved and basically this would be working in support of various legislation regarding senior services funding and taking active support of the Older Americans Act.

Conversion technology, this is something that's been worked on for quite some time with our public works department and the multi-jurisdictional task force. This is aiming at finding ways to address our overall waste stream. What we're looking towards here and I will prepare a brief for your consideration and place it on your administrative agenda for approval next meeting should you wish to pursue this item, is beginning the dialogue with our federal officials on the need to continue to have a open regulatory environment to provide for such initiatives, and also begin the discussion about potential funding for a project like this going into the future.

With that I'll end my presentation but I'd just like to again thank the Legislative Committee, Supervisor Carbajal, Supervisor Wolf, CEO Waller, Mr. Geiss, and of course Mr. Marshall. That ends my presentation. I'm happy to answer any questions.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:24:27 · ≈ 10:24 AM

Questions from the board? We do have four speakers. If you'd like to go forward with the speakers or if you'd like to ask for questions now. Speakers? I have a question. Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:24:37 · ≈ 10:24 AM

Wolf. Thank you. First of all, Ms. Nesich, I wanted to thank you and the rest of the committee for working on this. There...I read briefly that the governor's proposed budget solution yesterday and some of those, some of his remarks touched directly on our legislative priorities such as the Williamson Act, child care in-home supportive services and I know others.

So when you come back to us in talking about the impact of the governor's budget if you could also tie in in our own legislative priorities so that we have that tie-in and understanding about the impact and what are our chances legislatively of moving some of these things forward because, in a lot of respects, what he's proposing basically moves us backwards.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:25:39 · ≈ 10:25 AM

Other comments? If not let's first go to Santa Barbara for Jeffrey Bard. Mr. Bard?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:25:49 · ≈ 10:25 AM

Good morning Madam Chair, Members of Council. I'd like to encourage members of the public to participate more in the Legislative Program Committee. And some of the specific items, Refugio Road access to Reagan Ranch is a beautiful place to ride a bike or take a sports car. But it's kind of dangerous and I endorse that. Also, I think we need to try to get money for the Guadalupe Dunes access which last time I talked to Mr. Farrum was still closed and we'd like to open that up for surfers and fishers even if they have to walk in and some federal state money would be helpful. Quagga mussel problem is growing problem in this state The staff report didn't mention Lake Nasimiento is kind of problematic because it's under Monterey regulatory jurisdiction, but it's actually water for SLOs.

So the counties are fighting over who's to pay so that's where we need the state to step in on the social services front If the Children's Health Initiative is at risk and if we lose CHI on a county level, we need to replace that money at a state level. There's a pertussis and whooping cough epidemic and we don't want that going into our school system. Regarding homelessness, page 46, tobacco control I think is now coming into focus. New information from the Coastal Roundtable New Science. showing cigarette butts really harming the fisheries. So maybe we can leverage tobacco control or Proposition 99 tobacco tax money and use that, fold it into homeless services also environmental mitigation.

Today's Los Angeles Times features an excellent article on conservative Christian evangelical scientists who are now taking a second look at climate change and we're looking forward to a changing regulatory climate on that front. Thank you and have a good day.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:27:37 · ≈ 10:27 AM

Thank you, Mr. Bard. Andy Caldwell?

CommentAndy CaldwellProposedself-stated1:27:47 · ≈ 10:27 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board, I'm Andy Caldwell. You know obviously everybody in this room knows what kind of crises we're in especially with respect to your own financial situation and that of the state of California And unfortunately, as far as I could tell Governor Jerry Brown has not offered anything different than what Schwarzenegger's offered. And neither one of those in my opinion was workable and what has not been on the table is the issue of regulatory relief. Back in the early 90s when California was in similar situation they commissioned a commission on studying competitiveness for the state of California And concluded that California was not suffering from a recession as much as it was suffering from self-inflicted blows to our own economy by our own government.

In the bottom line is for 20 years I've represented businesses, manufacturing industry and agriculture as well as taxpayer interest before this board in a few times in Sacramento and other counties. Then I tell Republican groups that I speak to that I don't think the biggest problem in California's taxes, I believe its regulations And if we don't see a reform in the Endangered Species Act, the Clean Air Act including AB 32 and SB 375, the various water issues, the diesel engine rule, CEQA, the Coastal Commission. I don't see our economy recovering.

And again I base this on 20 years experience. Right now in this board as far as I know has not had a hearing on this Right now the Regional Water Quality Control Board for the Central Coast is proposing to require all farmers to capture and treat all the water that runs off of their field, and even the water that runs through their field into the groundwater recharge.

The conservative estimate on the impact of ag is a quarter of a billion dollars, if it's even financially doable. Most people believe that farmers are going to simply no longer be permitted to farm because of the stringent requirement that's being proposed. We don't have your attention let alone Sacramento's attention on this issue Ag is a $1 billion sector of our economy. It even applies to greenhouses if they don't have a cement floor and what I'm saying to you is that we're taking these major hits to the economy You guys are trying to figure out how to pay your bills, but you're not looking ultimately to where this money comes from and that's the health and well-being of the private sector. And I'm telling you it's not healthy and it does not have well being.

And we don't know how to get your attention, let alone Sacramento. But we wish we had your attention that you would help us get the attention of Sacramento. I wish you would invite the Farm Bureau, the cattlemen and grower shippers to do a full on presentation of what's being proposed by the regional board because this should be your number one. It's our number one priority. It should be your number one priority.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:31:00 · ≈ 10:31 AM

Thank you Mr. Caldwell. Next speaker is Joyce Ellen Lipton Followed by Brian Carroll.

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PresenterJoyce Lipman I'mArea Agency on Aging today and I wanted to comment on the legislative platform aProposedself-stated1:31:16 · ≈ 10:31 AM

Good morning Mrs. Gray and members of the Board of Supervisors, my name is Joyce Lipman I'm representing the Area Agency on Aging today and I wanted to comment on the legislative platform and we had made this suggestion and I apologize that it was made late but we really only learned about it recently at a meeting and to include support for the reauthorization of the Older Americans Act While this is a very small piece of legislation, it does provide millions of dollars in our community for services for low-income, frail, at risk older adults through the provision of meals, adult daycare, legal services, caregiver respite or wide range of services. And we appreciate and truly desire the support of the County Board of Supervisors The reauthorization of the Older Americans Act, which was first enacted in 1965 has generally happened fairly comfortably at the congressional level and signed by the presidents.

But this year may be a little different for us and we would welcome all the advocacy support that we can get We also want to use this as a venue to let the community know that these services are important. They're here in the community and they're a bit invisible, and your support will mean a great deal to us. I also want to, having read the platform that Eric Friedman from Supervisor Callahall's office was kind enough to send me, I do want to strongly support The recommendation regarding the In-Home Supportive Services. I should be more careful in the language I use, but I would say it's fairly ludicrous to expect to fingerprint clients of the In Home Supportive Services program. Certainly can't see much gain certainly not in financial let alone fraud wise.

in such an activity. So thank you very kindly and if I can be of any, if I can answer any questions about the Old Americans Act and thank Terry for agreeing to include it in the platform. I really appreciate that. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:33:21 · ≈ 10:33 AM

Mr. Carvajal? Thank you Madam Chair. You know I couldn't let an opportunity go by without just recognizing Joyce for her leadership as the head The Area Agency on Aging for, I believe the tri-counties?

PresenterJoyce Lipman I'mArea Agency on Aging today and I wanted to comment on the legislative platform aProposedself-stated1:33:35 · ≈ 10:33 AM

Two counties.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:33:37 · ≈ 10:33 AM

And you know without her advocacy as well as those such as Mr. Carroll who works for us and so many other folks quite frankly the plight and needs of seniors would be somewhat invisible. So I just want to recognize you for your leadership and your tenacity in making sure that we don't forget about the vulnerability and needs of our seniors.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:34:00 · ≈ 10:34 AM

Thank you very kindly, Mr. Caldwell. Other comments? Mr. Carroll, Brian Carroll.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:34:11 · ≈ 10:34 AM

Madam Chair, members of the boards. I'd also like to welcome Supervisor Lavinino to the board and I look forward to working with you for older adults and disabled adults in your community. Underscore what Joyce Olin said about supporting reauthorization of the Older Americans Act it is so incredibly important we have an unprecedented amount of seniors in this county and that's going to continue to grow double by the year 2050.

So there can be a lot of impact on services and programs in the county There is a lot of legislation that we sift through on senior and disabled adult issues. Some of this is really beneficial, and some of it can be really detrimental. The Adults in Aging Network is looking to re-establish It's legislative committee so that we can actually bring our positions on this legislation to your board and get your positions on that same legislation.

I thank the CEO's office for putting senior issues in this report today. I can't emphasize how important it is for the seniors in our community, and I hope we will have your continued support for this in this coming year and beyond. So thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:35:21 · ≈ 10:35 AM

Thank you Mr. Carroll To the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:35:23 · ≈ 10:35 AM

board members now, any questions? Supervisor Farr. Thank you Madam Chair. Actually just a couple of comments. I just wanted to also reiterate and underscore what Supervisor Carbajal said about the work of Joyce Ellen Littman and the Area Agency on Aging and also the work of the Adult Aging Network which I represent the Board on as well as Supervisor Carbajal. A subcommittee of that group did put together a symposium on senior issues What the theme of that was this year was advocacy, and I think that you're seeing some of the results of that now. I think we'll be hearing more from that group as they reestablish this legislative committee. But I feel very strongly that the senior issues deserve a very big place in this legislative platform, and I'm hoping next year at this time that they will have their own page.

I realize their issues are kind of embedded in several pages but There are many of the same kinds of impacts with senior issues as we see with children's issues in that if they are not addressed up front in a more cost-effective manner, then it becomes much more expensive as time goes on. Not to mention the very important quality of life issues. So I really appreciate both Brian and Joyce being here today to advocate.

My other comment is on a different subject and that has to do with Lake Kachuma, and I think it's interesting in light of the discussion that we had earlier about the Twitchell project and wanting to have a departmental item come back to do with the water agency and all of that. That would be very good because when you look at what we're asking for Lake Kachuma, it all has to do with water so I'm a little unclear as to why we're not looking to the water agency to help with some of these projects. Thank you Madam Chair. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:37:11 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Other comments? No other comments? I'd just like to again state the obvious, which is this is going to be a very huge year of cutting. And as we look at these suggested platforms, I want to encourage us to continue to look for volunteers and Organizations that can help fill the gap that is going to be caused by the huge shortfall that we're going to see out of Sacramento. And I'll give you, even though this is national primarily, I'll give you the example. The Veterans Memorial Building in Lompoc. We have been incredibly successful in getting money from the federal level for that building But the big reason was the volunteer work that was done by the Lompoc Veterans Memorial Building Commission.

And those folks have earned money, gathered money, lobbied, planned so that any time like our lobbyists or our representatives like Supervisor Carbajal were back in Washington D.C., they had volunteers to add to the issue So I think that the one thing that we're going to be doing is, and I'm gonna be a broken record on this, is let's find ways in the community and amongst ourselves to get these kinds of things done because we're just going to have to.

And so with that, actually what I'd like to do and I'll try and get started on this Ms. Waller, is I would hope that every meeting we can recognize somebody's volunteer or something that they've done And just with a public comment, say thank you for what you've done and what you've accomplished because we really need to put that to the forefront.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:39:08 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Chairwoman I think that's an excellent idea both from the standpoint of recognizing our volunteers but also sort of as an advertisement encouraging others to volunteer with us.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:39:18 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Right and I know we've got the phone numbers on running on the government channel as well as on the website so that you can volunteer With that, I guess we need a motion to approve the legislative platform unless there's some changes. Supervisor Wolf? I was going to make a motion to approve. Is there... All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Miss Messick, thank you very much. You do very good work. County Executive Office item number four.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:39:47 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Madam Chair, members of the Board, Item 4 from the County Executive Office is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the State Legislative Report and Contract Renewal

GuestCarbajalProposed · by introduction1:39:56 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Good morning again Madam Chair and members of the Board. This item is before you for consideration of renewal of the contract with Governmental Advocates Incorporated for State Advocacy Services for the period of January 1, 2011 through December 31st, 2011. Each year both Mr. Cliffberg and Monica Miller join us to give an overview of their activities in the course of the last 12 months I would speak to specifically again this particular platform of again put up on your screen the proposed legislation.

efforts that you've just adopted and these folks will be critical in helping us navigate the process both working with CSAC and our delegation in achieving each of these items set forward. They will comment on their legislative efforts this year and hopefully also they can give a little bit of insight into what we know so far about the state budget, and they just have a very brief presentation for you today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:40:54 · ≈ 10:40 AM

Mr. Berg to you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:40:55 · ≈ 10:40 AM

Thank You Madam Chairman Cliff Berg and Monica Miller from governmental advocates First off I want to start by a thank you, certainly. I want to thank Terry and the staff in the Ledge Committee and the Board for the process of creating the 2011 legislative platform. This has been one of the most transparent and most engaging processes that we've had during the course of the last fall in putting together a fairly ambitious program for 2011 for the county.

And, we work closely with your staff and with the Ledge Committee. We were down here in December meeting with the Lodge Committee to work on coming up with a plan to implement The platform in Sacramento, you know very briefly just so that you are aware and your audience is aware. You in essence come up with the priorities for the county and what we will be doing both proactively and defensively in Sacramento for the upcoming year. And Monica and I work to implement those with you and with your delegation in Sacramento. At the moment you see a slide for six items Basically, each one of those items we will be as your lobbyists finding authors for those bills, getting them introduced, setting them for hearing, meeting with the committee chairman, meeting with the committee staff, lobbying the committee members, testifying in public, meeting in privately in both policy and fiscal committee.

The bill then moves through the policy committee, the fiscal committee to the floor that process is then repeated Clearly, Santa Barbara County has an excellent legislative delegation. Monica and I have worked over the years with Senator Strickland and now with Senator Blakeslee. You also have two freshman legislators that were just elected in Sacramento for the first time and we look forward to working with them.

We think that we have a great delegation in Sacramento but Sacramento is 120 member legislative body made up Substantial majorities of Democrats, substantial number of new members and our job as advocates is to educate and work with all of them whether they be from Santa Barbara or from Los Angeles or San Francisco because the reality is that we have four legislators out of 120 and the committees are controlled by Members from other areas of the state. So that's an ongoing process that we do all year long You also have in addition to the legislative priorities that will be working to implement your targeted priorities And those are issues like The Williamson Act, like homeless, like seniors that Monica and I work on all year long To find the appropriate forum in the appropriate place to raise the counties viewpoint to make that those views known and to try to get the changes whether it's in a budget subcommittee hearing, whether it's in meetings with the administration, whether it's in private meetings with the leadership of the legislature.

So we do have an ambitious program I think will be successful in 2011 implementing it but it will not be easy obviously 2011 is a year many challenges. I like to be optimistic and also say it's a year many opportunities 2011 we have a new governor, we have a new administration coming in. The Governor of California appoints literally thousands of people to high-level positions whether it's the Secretary of Health and Welfare, the Director of the Department of Agriculture. A new administration generally means a new governor, means new appointments, new people that we have to work with. One of the things that Monica and I do on a day-to-day basis is plug the county into the administration and the appropriate agency Whether it be a commission, whether it be a department, whether it be an agency.

For seven years we have had a governor of one party in California and a legislature of another party. And for seven years we've had a budget deficit problem that continues to grow and continue to remain unsolved. It's categorized in Sacramento or described as a structural deficit, which basically means that the state's revenues don't match the state's expenditures. For many years the legislature and the governor have been unable to come up with structural reforms to fix that deficit and many have said they've papered over as a matter of convenience the inherent budget problems that we have. A new governor and a new legislature brings an opportunity to perhaps change the dynamic Clearly the new governor this week has released a new budget, a new budget that represents over 12 billion dollars in cuts.

Many of those cuts are extremely significant to the county and will impact local government. He also has proposed extensions of revenues and that will require voter approval and is talking about doing all of this within 60 days So it is apparent we will be at it as soon as we get back to Sacramento working on this, whether it's in budget subcommittee, whether it's in leadership meetings, whether it's with members of the Santa Barbara Legislative Delegation or the Democratic Leadership of the State Legislature.

We are going to be on a fast track and frankly failure would be extremely difficult. I mean the governor has been described as being in a honeymoon period in Sacramento but that does not necessarily mean the legislature will adopt his proposals many of his proposals have been proposed by the prior governor It does not necessarily mean the voters will approve his proposals. There's a $29 billion deficit, he's only proposed roughly $12 billion in cuts. Failure to deal with the revenue portion could mean another 10 to 12 billion dollars in cuts which is sort of an unimaginable scenario but it is a scenario that we are at risk The situation in Sacramento is very fluid. He's talking about, and you've heard the term realignment. Realignment basically means restructuring the responsibility of state government and restructuring the responsibility of county government for the delivery of services and for who pays for those services.

Realignments sounds attractive but the question that is ultimately raised is what is in it for the state? Well clearly realignment only becomes attractive to the state if not only are they pushing responsibility on the local government, but they're saving money. And the only way they're apparently going to save money is in essence if the county provides service either more efficiently than the state or the county is given less money. So we have a huge task ahead of us in Sacramento, which is to ensure that as these discussions on realignment of services and realignment of funding take place. That in essence the counties are not stuck with increased responsibilities without the funding to deliver the services that the public wants. Now, you know, modestly I would say and I would tell you that Monica and I deal with all your county-related issues and your sponsored issues that are directly involved with Santa Barbara County.

We also work with coalitions like CSAC, other outside groups whether it's health directors, whether its aging groups to be successful on issues that impact the county but also other counties in other organizations whether its agriculture and the Williamson Act Whether it's redevelopment issues, we are engaged both on behalf of the county and individually as part of broad coalitions.

I sort of view lobbying in Sacramento as a football sport kind of effort. It is a team effort. We can be successful on behalf of the county and county specific issues, and we need to work with all the other counties and all the other local governments to be effective on the broader issues that impact local government. And winning in Sacramento for local government is a team tackling effort. It's not open field very often.

But we are engaged and will be engaged in a day-to-day effort to plug you into all the decisions behind the scenes, in public, in the back room and in public hearings on issues that will impact the county. Knowing that you may have questions about the state budget situation, let me ask Monica if you want to fill in anything I have not covered.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:49:28 · ≈ 10:49 AM

Monica Miller and thank you so much for your time today. Just really briefly, you have your report in front of you that we prepared and I don't know if there's any questions but you did actually have a very successful year last year even given the state budget crisis as you know the budget did not wrap up until early October on it was a 24-hour legislative session where we were talking to Tony Strickland, we were talking to Sam Blakeslee We were making sure that they were aware of the county priorities. We were successful at getting $10 million for Williamson Act, and that's statewide but it's seven counties that participate whereas that was defunded prior. We were also successful in getting special distribution funds finally allocated. The money sat in the bank.

The state couldn't touch it however it did help when you looked at our account overall from a statewide perspective and showing that we had money in the bank since we really don't have any money in our general fund And so we were successful in getting those funds released. And we also were successful, we worked very closely with several counties with regard to the special election reimbursement and we finally got that reimbursed. As you know, we'll have another special election this June. In years past there's always been a process where that was an automatic they would just reimburse the county it was a no-brainer But unfortunately, that is no longer the case given the state's fiscal constraints as well as legislators want to be able to take credit in an era of term limits by saying this is what I brought home for you since they can't bring home a whole lot these days.

We are working with Senator Blakesley's office to do one bill we're hoping that will overall take care and address the problem for future and again as you know you have a June special election potentially coming up So, and that's going to cost the county a lot of money. And it's money that could be used for welfare services, child care etc., so we want to get you reimbursed for that election.

And also another area that we're continuing to work on is disaster relief. We were able to get your constituents reimbursed on a property tax level a couple years ago but the county still has yet to be reimbursed. Pedro Nava introduced a bill two years ago AB 50 there's a fight between counties and The firefighters, unfortunately because the firefighters want to integrate their MOUs and the way you contract with them into that particular piece of legislation. They have had some traction at the state capital level so we have a working group now that we're hoping to be able to work that issue out and move a bill forward this year to get the counties reimbursed for that. Very briefly I just want to touch on the state budget as Cliff mentioned it came out yesterday.

We're still in the process of analyzing it Governor Brown, as you know, came and met with CSAC. Extended himself actually walked over to their offices and said you are a partner in this we're going to talk about this realignment it's going to be a multi-year phase in the first they're gonna focus on is public safety He is looking at abolishing redevelopment agencies. He feels that they have not done their job, they have not spent their money wisely. There's a lot of money sitting there that was supposed to be used to build low-income housing projects. In fact, they've never done that statewide from what we're hearing. Additionally he's putting a carrot and stick approach out for counties and cities and special districts by scooping up that money and then allowing counties to utilize it for programs like William SNAP etc.

He is hoping to, well he's actually eliminated those programs and now he wants to be able to use the RDA money to be able to keep those programs going. He is giving counties one year out if they so choose as you know the contracts are either 10 years or 20 years So he's allowing you to delete ten percent, so either one year off of a 10-year contract or two off of the 20-year contract. But as we know from Santa Barbara County's perspective, we like Williamson Act. We think it works. It's something we'd like to keep going but we do need to have that offset financially. It is not something that we have the funds to come up with when we have so many other priorities in front of us.

The Governor also did some wholesale eliminations on some of your aging programs I actually worked a couple of years ago with your multipurpose senior service programs and you've been very supportive as a board to that program. We were able to get Sam Blakeslee to support it in subcommittee because of the support that you've given. He eliminated that and he also eliminated adult day health care, so that's something we're going to have to work to achieve to make sure your seniors are protected locally.

And then there's some other areas in child care. IHSS etc looking at and Medi-Cal looking at doing copays, rollbacks on age and time limits etc. And again we'll work with Terry and in your offices to make sure you get a full report of what that looks like so but we just wanted to give you a snapshot of where we are right now.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:54:03 · ≈ 10:54 AM

Thank You Ms. Filler. Supervisor Wolfe? Thank you. I just wanted to touch on the election process And in the past, we have as you stated. That's always been one of our priorities is getting reimbursed for that and we've been lucky in the past I think it was about a million and a half. In the governor's report yesterday he was specific in saying that the state was not going to be paying for this special election Which brings me to our legislative platform, and I think Joe Holland in his proposal with a new election process is a terrific idea. I always thought that but for me now it takes on more urgency because this is another way for us to deal with that pending special election. So my suggestion is that I would think, for me this looks like a win-win for us and a lot of other counties.

So my suggestion is that we get moving on this as soon as possible to get our local legislators on board and see what we can do to get this moving to help us with that eventuality.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:55:22 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:55:22 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Carbajal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:55:24 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. You know, one of the issues we haven't discussed and I don't know to what extent there's a nexus with you as our lobbyist in Sacramento but I understand that when the federal government issues its final numbers for redistricting or census numbers that we utilize for redistricting. The state of California as well as our local counties.

There's a dance that goes on of accepting them or not accepting them. I'm just wondering if that's an area that you guys could keep abreast And advises if there's any movements, any dates, any activity that we should know about. But I didn't realize that the state has an acceptance. They either agree or they disagree or they work it out and that may have an impact on the overall state in our county as well, I believe.

But that's something that I didn't see in our report and it might be worthwhile keeping an eye out for. Thank you. We will do that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:56:19 · ≈ 10:56 AM

Other comments? Do we have any public comment on this, Mr. Allen?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:56:23 · ≈ 10:56 AM

No request to

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.691:56:24 · ≈ 10:56 AM

speak.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:56:24 · ≈ 10:56 AM

Supervisor Lovanino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.691:56:26 · ≈ 10:56 AM

Yes. I just have some concerns. Obviously we keep talking about the budget concerns that we have and I know this contract is not large, you know it's not a huge amount of money. I think we're less than $60,000. I have this feeling that we're going to be sitting here in June And we're going to have to make decisions about employees that are going to be letting go, or we're going to be making decisions about services that have been provided in the past that we're gonna have to cut.

I guess my question is... I know we have a lobbying organization on our behalf which is CSAC. One of the questions I brought up at the new supervisor training for CSAC was how many counties out there are Also employing and spending money on additional lobbyists. You know, most of the major counties were but I don't know if as the new person we've ever questioned the actual need and this is no disrespect to your organization. I'm sure you're doing a great job but when I look at what the successes are that we reported, the successes are both the Williamson Act which was pretty much You know, it was a statewide deal. There were seven counties involved and the special distribution fund.

I think we all have relationships and I guess one of the things that I was going to talk about is when we look at what our proposed legislation is with the 154 Kachuma in the alcohol licensing although there are 120 members up there There's only a few that they're going to be willing to carry that legislation. I think it's going to be our contingency. I don't see somebody from Humboldt County wanting to stick their neck out on the 154 bill, so who has the relationship with our members?

I think there are local elected officials. It was Doss, Assemblyman Williams. I know members on here have a great working relationship with him I feel like I can pick up the phone at any time and call Senator Blakeslee or Senator Strickland. Our new Assemblyman Kancho Shahjian, I know is a former county supervisor. I guess the question I have is how much...I know we have a very aggressive package proposed legislation for state legislation this time around and I know we're right in the middle of...we've got two weeks before we start writing legislation and starting to get it out there but Have we looked at this in the past for the real necessity of having a state? And I understand federally, we're out there trying to get appropriations. It's in D.C., the distance involved and the complexity involved.

I really feel we need a federal lobbyist but I'm not sold yet that we absolutely have to spend this money at this time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:59:32 · ≈ 10:59 AM

Other comments? Supervisor Carbajal. Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:59:36 · ≈ 10:59 AM

you, I certainly appreciate my colleague Lavinino's questions. I guess I'll just remind us that for a long time we did forego having lobbyists. I believe it was both at state and federal government wasn't it?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:59:56 · ≈ 10:59 AM

This goes way back past her time. We hired a lobbyist, we hired these folks, Tim Staffel was on the board.

GuestCarbajalProposed · by introduction2:00:04 · ≈ 11:00 AM

We've had governmental advocates for approximately 14 years. We did forego having a federal advocate for a couple of years.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:00:13 · ≈ 11:00 AM

I would say the questions Mr. Lavagnino raises are fair but I think it would be good to look at those in the future perhaps after budget or what have you. I just think that I have seen the value of our advocates in Sacramento. Certainly, I can pick up the phone and I do pick up the phone but you know relationships come and go. Representatives come and go. Some have Sometimes you don't quite get the skinny from them until you hear what's really going on in the back room discussions, and that's unfortunate. But sometimes we get a face and we don't necessarily get all the skinny of what's going on in the background. And I have found that many of our pieces of legislation, Maddie for example, I remember having to have not only discussions with our legislative staff and our legislators Some more than others, but to be able to hear immediately back from the interest groups and the other lobbying groups up there that were pushing one agenda or another and just trying to make sense of it all.

I for the time being feel that this is invaluable in light of all our other priorities certainly we'll revisit all these issues in the future but for the time being I have found a value in our advocacy in Sacramento, but more importantly Cliff Prigg and Monica. They're so well respected on both sides of the aisle obviously everywhere I would people I would run into had nothing but positive things to say about Monica and Cliff and I think that goes a long way in putting our best foot forward. But someday as our belt gets tighter we will revisit this, we will revisit other things but that could be said about everything we do and I just think that While we can do this, I think in the future we'll grapple with this issue as well. And I think look at it a little bit closer from your perspective Supervisor Lavadino how can we perhaps better gauge our bang for our dollar knowing that at the end of the day a lot of things happen and you could easily say I helped make that happen but there's so many other forces as well But again, it's that ripple effect.

No one island, there is no island unto its own. It's a full press and we have to do our part in getting our point across and our legislation through.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:02:38 · ≈ 11:02 AM

Thank you Supervisor Carbajal and I'd like to address this issue also. I am adamantly opposed to spending $60,000 on lobbyists at this point in time and I'd like to explain to you all why. When the lobbyists were hired it was back in the days when money was coming to us independently and differently as counties from Sacramento there was money there. There's no longer money there they're looking for money from us With that being said, each and every one of us has a very, very close relationship with legislators. With Cacho, with Tony, with Mr. Williams who I don't know but you folks do and the legislation that we want carried is local and we can go there.

And the other issue is, and this is key, one of the things that either Monica or Cliff said will go back and get our analysis of the budget back to you. On January 10th, CSAC sent us a 20-page analysis of the budget. CSAC is a different organization than it was seven years ago. CSAC is very impressive lobbyists and they are doing the job that we need done but the other thing is We as volunteers, as people can assume this $60,000 responsibility and we can get the legislation passed. We know that CSAC is doing a fine job as legislators. In fact to me it was huge when Governor Brown went to the CSAC building And talk to CSAC. He didn't go to Cliff and Monica or to anybody else that were lobbyists up there, he went to talk to CSAC so there is a difference.

I think that when we can do this, we should because it's great to have it when money is coming in but right now at this point in time our $60,000 would be much better spent on kids and welfare and the kinds of things that are right here at home. So with that being said, I know other lights are on. Supervisor Farr?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:05:06 · ≈ 11:05 AM

Thank you Ms. Gray. I was going to ask Terry to comment on this because tell you the number of times that I have talked to Monica or Cliff over the years to inform me on certain things that are going on in Sacramento. But I think it's, you know, Terry and Sharon have... Well, I'd like you to talk about the amount of time that you talk to these folks during the course of your day or week and the value that you see.

It's quite apparent to me but as a staff person I think it's important to hear from you as well.

GuestCarbajalProposed · by introduction2:05:49 · ≈ 11:05 AM

Yes, Chairman Gray and Supervisor Wolf. From my perspective as staff working directly is when we set forth to answer your direct question I speak with Monica several times a week. Cliff likely weekly on key items policy items that type of thing As we enter into this phase of our legislative program and implementation, that becomes more frequent. As you know, we have staff that works on the legislative program. This isn't a full-time effort for us. I would say that about 15 to 20 percent of my time is actually dedicated to legislative and perhaps the same with sharing but that changes as the work over the course of the last several months and then a few months going forward Absolutely, we work with CSAC. CSAC is an amazing organization and we have very strong ties to them.

I think one of the key items that Mr. Berg mentioned that is a bit different though is the parts about actually who is drafting the legislation? Who's actually working with the committees, the department heads And taking that step beyond and providing the technical information always needed to our representatives so they can best represent us. So we work together very closely, obviously this is at the complete discretion of the board and it just is a factor I'm going to quickly ask you to give me the names of the pieces of

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:07:22 · ≈ 11:07 AM

legislation that they have drafted.

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GuestCarbajalProposed · by introduction2:07:33 · ≈ 11:07 AM

Specifically they worked in conjunction with staff on AB 1497, AB 1019.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:07:38 · ≈ 11:07 AM

You might translate.

GuestCarbajalProposed · by introduction2:07:40 · ≈ 11:07 AM

Oh excuse me. I know everything by numbers. This was the housing arena information. So they

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:07:49 · ≈ 11:07 AM

wrote the legislation on the housing arena?

GuestCarbajalProposed · by introduction2:07:50 · ≈ 11:07 AM

We together wrote that legislation with them and they carried that through to our various committees on AB 1019 which was a component of that, a secondary component of 1019 for the annexation allowing us to actually receive some credit for our reallocation and annexations. That was two years ago? And then they also worked in conjunction in preparing the actual legislation for Proposition 50, which Ms. Miller just discussed, which is getting restoration for our property tax as a result of the fires.

Those were the most recent that come to mind. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:08:32 · ≈ 11:08 AM

think last year was a novice bill, I think it was last year, the breast cancer, the digital mammography that came literally from our public health department seeing that as a need and it was carried and subsequently passed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:08:48 · ≈ 11:08 AM

And I'm sorting out the difference in carried and drafted and that's where I'm trying to go here. Ms. Waller you are going to just hang on just

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:08:57 · ≈ 11:08 AM

a minute. I was just going to sort of add on to Terry's response to the supervisor. I think that we as staff certainly believe there is a value here or else we wouldn't be asking you to consider extending this contract. That said, I also understand what many of you are saying as far as some very difficult budget times ahead for us so I certainly think regardless of what your decision is today that this needs to be reconsidered during our budget discussions In the overall realm of what we're going to have to reduce and what we're going to have to keep. But again, I think that we as staff feel comfortable saying there is a value here

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:09:37 · ≈ 11:09 AM

or else wouldn't have recommended it. And I agree with that and I'm the one that's driving this train to try and say not to get $60,000 put out right now but I don't not think they're valuable. Supervisor Farr and then Mr. Burke

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:09:51 · ≈ 11:09 AM

after Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:09:52 · ≈ 11:09 AM

Clark.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:09:53 · ≈ 11:09 AM

Thank you, Madam Chair. You know I do support renewing the contract. I think when you think about the diversity of this county we really are unique in the wide range of issues that we need to keep track of and be a part of an advocate for at the state level whether it's ag issues or Tribal government issues, mobile homes, oil, coastal issues, all of that. And it really does take a partnership I think of all our advocacy opportunities and that includes not only government advocates but CSAC, us working as a board as well as us acting individually as elected officials. I think it takes all of that And so I really have to say, and to Supervisor Lavinino, I think two years ago, I probably might have said the same thing that you did. But I have to say that over the course of the last few years, I've been very impressed with their work, particularly their responsiveness, their timeliness because sometimes we don't have as much notice for as closely as we're watching these things because things can move sometimes very quickly in Sacramento.

And to have them there and to have them notify us and to have that kind of responsiveness is really, really important And so while you know $60,000 is certainly nothing to sneeze at I think when we think about the potential financial impacts to the county both positive and negative by not having that real timely responsiveness. I think it really is money well spent.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:11:18 · ≈ 11:11 AM

Supervisor Farr would you like to make that motion because I think we're pretty much all know where we are right now and Mr. Berg you may want to make an argument again but it looks to me like you've got votes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:11:27 · ≈ 11:11 AM

Well, I would take the advice of the chair and always go with the votes. But I do just want to briefly say that I understand the questions the new supervisor has raised. And I think they're fair questions and the board has a responsibility to ask them periodically. I think you've done that. When I first came on board you brought on a contract lobbyist Because you were spending over $150,000 for a full-time employee in Sacramento. So we were actually a result of a cost reduction I think if you look at our record over the years you'll see that in one year we solved an ERAF problem for this county that was eight million dollars. We set up a coastal grant program that brought in hundreds of thousands of dollars. We helped save the Cottage Hospital.

We would not have gotten the MATI funding passed without our efforts. CSAC is a great organization but it represents County-wide issues and the reason that you have advocates for the county is because our number one priority is Santa Barbara County day in, day out. And dealing with specific issues that impact this county. So thank you Madam Chair. I'm going to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:12:30 · ≈ 11:12 AM

ask you to conclude. Supervisor Carr did you want to make that motion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:12:34 · ≈ 11:12 AM

Yes, I'll move that we receive the presentation from governmental advocates and renew their contract for services between January 1st 2011 and December 31st 2011. And is there a second?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:12:45 · ≈ 11:12 AM

I'll second that. Just one thing, you know, I do appreciate what Paul McIntosh does and CSAC it's a great organization. I think it has improved over the years and I think a lot of that credit goes to Paul and his administration as the executive director But I will tell you that the only shortcomings, and as is with any organization including NACO that I represent, it's only as good as those who show up.

And sometimes the consensus of those who show up may not be the interests although oftentimes they're not, it is but sometimes it's not the interest of Santa Barbara County. And having that independent advocate for us and us only is I think just another layer of assistance. So, I just wanted to make that point because CSEC is great they are a great organization 95% of maybe everything they advocate for benefits us but then there's that 5% and I'm not sure we would find consensus on

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:13:53 · ≈ 11:13 AM

it. And thank you Supervisor Carvajal and as we move through this year of volunteers I am counting on all of you to lobby your friends and let's take a roll call

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:14:04 · ≈ 11:14 AM

Ms. Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:14:05 · ≈ 11:14 AM

Aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:14:06 · ≈ 11:14 AM

Ms. Farr? Aye Mr. Lavagnino? No Mr. Carbajal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:14:09 · ≈ 11:14 AM

Aye

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:14:09 · ≈ 11:14 AM

Ms. Gray? No Passes 3-2

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:14:11 · ≈ 11:14 AM

Thank you very much and let's go to you guys can we go ahead or do you want to have a break? Go ahead, go ahead everybody all right item number five

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:14:22 · ≈ 11:14 AM

Madam Chair members of the board item 5 is from planning and development it's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding An ordinance amending Chapter 25 of the Petroleum Code of the Santa Barbara County Code to address regulation of high-risk petroleum operations and operators.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:14:37 · ≈ 11:14 AM

And is your presentation ready to go or do you want me to take a couple minutes to set it up? Madam Chair, we're ready. Okay, Ms.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:14:46 · ≈ 11:14 AM

Black. Madam Chair, members of the board. The purpose of this agenda item is to present amendments to the Petroleum Code to increase its effectiveness and utility Following your board's direction on May 11, 2010 to revisit the ordinance. Specifically I'll review the background that led to the original adoption of the High Risk Operations Ordinance, provide an overview of the existing ordinance provisions and present staffs recommended changes to the ordinance. As background in late 2007 and early 2008 A number of oil spills occurred from onshore facilities, which triggered the board's interest in and direction to improve the county's oversight of the onshore oil industry.

As a result, County Fire, the Petroleum Unit of Building and Safety implemented a coordinated facility inspection program, developed a unified facility list to ensure consistent data collection and tracking, and developed recommendations for your board to consider to improve the regulation of onshore oil facilities. In 2008, your board adopted five recommendations and directed staff to implement them. Those included developing the multiple response ordinance which was accomplished and incorporated into the fire code in January of 2009.

To increase inspection and permitting fees which also was incorporated into the fire code in January of 2009. Adopt a High Risk Operations Ordinance, which was incorporated into the Petroleum Code in 2009 and is the code that we're looking at today. Directed us to create a centralized database for violation history and information relative to the petroleum oversight.

This was accomplished through the Data for Decision Making Project through ITD. This provided a centralized database Drawing from databases in the Petroleum Division of Planning and Development, from FHIR and from APCD. The system did go live in May of 2010 internally and the external interface has never been accomplished. And then the fifth recommendation was to implement operational efficiencies which is certainly an ongoing effort we've in planning and development have done a number Things including increasing our use of existing available tools to ensure compliance. Specifically, petroleum staff now issue notices of violation under Chapter 24A as soon as a violation of the Petroleum Code is discovered and there was some delay before which has resulted in quicker correction of violations and compliance with regulations.

In terms of the High Risk Operation Ordinance The existing ordinance defines high risk operation as An operation that has been, or a facility that has been in violation for more than 30 consecutive days or 45 days during the preceding 12 months. Or a facility that has had three separate unauthorized releases of at least 25 barrels in a 12-month period as well.

The existing ordinance also provides that upon declaring an operation high risk that petroleum administrator may undertake an investigation, shall make findings as to cause and shall approve a mandatory plan for remediating the causative problems. In revisiting the existing high-risk ordinance staff identified three areas for review. The timing and spill volume thresholds as well as the remediation requirements.

As to the thresholds for designating an operation high risk, the existing timing in the High Risk Offender Ordinance is not well coordinated with the timing provided in the Administrative Fine Ordinance. The Administrative Fine Ordinance provides 30 days to correct most violations, with the potential for extensions to be granted where determined appropriate by the Petroleum Administrator.

However, an operation would be considered high risk if it is in a Notice of Violation in effect for more than 30 days regardless of extensions granted by the Petroleum Administrator With our enhanced use of the Administrative Fine Ordinance That notice of violation process serves well as a primary enforcement tool with the high-risk offender or operator ordinance providing a backstop tool in those cases where issuance of NOVs is not effective.

The board also expressed concern last May about the spill volume threshold of three spills of 25 barrels or more in a 12 month period Further, the spill threshold does not distinguish between spills within containment and those spills outside of containment. In addition in reviewing the existing ordinance staff noted that roles are not clearly defined and that the remediation plan only addresses causative problems leading to the spill or violation but doesn't look at the overall facility operations to prevent future problems.

So staff is recommending amendments to the ordinance to change several factors including the thresholds for designating high-risk operations. As to timing, staff is recommending that the timing threshold change to an operation which is in violation for more than 30 consecutive days and the NOV as resulted in a Notice of Determination of Fine. So we're basically recommending that we allow that first primary tool to run its course so to speak and if a Notice of Determination of Fine is issued, that tool has not been successful gaining compliance.

As to spill volumes, staff is recommending reducing the number of spills to two or more and the volume to 15 barrels or more other than within secondary containment during the previous or preceding 12 months. The proposed revised definition trigger for determining a facility to be high risk is summarized on this slide so this really just accumulates the previous two slides.

Staff is also recommending changes to the ordinance regarding remediation requirements intended to clarify responsibilities for preparation of the plan and costs associated with carrying out the plan. Staff is also recommending amendments to expand remediation plan requirements which are listed in the second set of bullets on this slide including addressing causative problems, providing for an audit of overall facility operations which we think very important a mandatory, developing a mandatory schedule to address all the issues identified through the analysis of the problem and the audit.

To have specific milestones in place and to require an independent verification of the milestone completion. The effects of the ordinance would be to change or reduce the thresholds for determining an operation to be high risk. The ordinance would take affect 30 days after its adoption, after its second reading. It would be applicable in a prospective manner. In other words no operation would be declared high risk until at least 12 months after final adoption which we expect to be March of 2012 and the ordinance amendments would not affect ongoing enforcement efforts aimed toward compliance Staff did have the opportunity to review the one comment letter that we received from the Environmental Defense Center and would recommend incorporating a change to the ordinance at subsection 25-43B2BI, to change high risk operator to simply operator.

In addition, the fire department staff has pointed out a minor change to section 25-3A3 to delete a reference to a specific article which is out of date. And staff would recommend that we continue this hearing to February 1st as a first reading so that we can provide you with these and other changes in writing prior to your action on the ordinance, and adoption would be proposed to follow on February 15th.

That concludes my presentation if you have any questions I'd be happy to answer them.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:23:30 · ≈ 11:23 AM

One of the issues and concerns is the elimination of 45 days. As you were clear in stating, the reason that this came back is because a few board members, myself included, were concerned that we had not...that we were continuing to see violations and spills. And so the way this is written, when you eliminate that 45 days it looks like the only way that someone could be considered a high risk operator is if they have 30 consecutive days.

But theoretically Within a year time frame, 365 days you might have an operator violate one of these sections say 60 times. They're not consecutive but they don't fit into our definition and so that concerns me that we are taking out someone who in my mind would still be a high-risk offender even if it's not consecutive That is concerning to me and I do think that we should somehow reincorporate a 45 day, I don't know how you can do it but just state so that it's not consecutive. We also had talked yesterday about a couple definitions and I was wondering if you had a chance to, the one was the hazardous and the deleterious?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:25:04 · ≈ 11:25 AM

Madam Chair and Supervisor Wolff if I could respond to that We did not have a chance to confer with County Council, and because this is a definitional issue we do think that's important. It's certainly something we could look into prior to the February 1st hearing.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:25:17 · ≈ 11:25 AM

All right so that will come back to us. That's it for now. I know I'll come back after public comment. Supervisor Carbajal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:25:31 · ≈ 11:25 AM

Yes. For me the one issue First of all, I think that there was a lot of good attempt to really make a lot of good changes and most of them are pretty good. The one thing that I guess I just raised is that we're lowering the thresholds of spills and they go beyond the containment area from 25 to 15 barrels. I'm just wondering what if we have 14 barrel spill every day?

Do we want to put in a cumulative threshold where we said, come on get a handle on things because if you're having a 14-day spill often it's likely you can have a really big spill at some point. So should we put in a cumulative in there that would try to kind of if you're not meeting the thresholds we are now setting up there is still an overall threshold of cumulative spills that you're going to get our attention and we're going to be quite concerned Because it's showing a pattern. So that's one, and the other issue which is not the exact focus of this but related is in asking questions a lot about this ordinance modifications before us I asked staff about the database that we were supposed to be implementing and unbeknownst to me and quite shocking I have learned that has been abandoned It has just been abandoned.

Data collection goes on by still the various departments, but the centralization has somewhat been abandoned and I never got a report this board never got a report it just happened and it happened. It's my understanding because the software that provided for that function was costing us in the millions of dollars and somehow I didn't know that either And somehow that fell to the wayside with our last budget cuts.

It was good to know that, but again is there an alternative to achieving the same centralization consolidation and accumulation of the data despite the circumstance we're in. I'm not saying let's go back to that ridiculous million-dollar price tag that we were never told about by the way, specifically as it related to this and I'm glad we're not doing it anymore but there's got to be a way of having a clearinghouse of all these various agencies or departments funneling the data to have a very more elementary database function that achieves the same thing. So if you could elaborate on that, Ms.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:28:21 · ≈ 11:28 AM

Meester. When you respond would you sort out what you're responding to?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:28:26 · ≈ 11:28 AM

Yes Madam Chair I'm going to respond to Supervisor Carbajal's question about whether or not we could have a cumulative threshold to avoid these just under the threshold spills that don't trigger the high risk offender ordinance and that's certainly possible and we could bring back some language too address that issue next time if the board chooses to do so.

We would propose that be outside of containment again because I think that's an important distinction in our spills. As to the database issue, I'm going to ask Mr. Mason to address that question first and then I believe that Mr. Nisbet is in the hearing room in Santa Barbara he may have some information to add.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:29:12 · ≈ 11:29 AM

Thank you Madam Chair, Supervisor Carbajal. The Data for Decision Maker program was an initiative for technology services to grab data from different sources. The oil tracking system was a prototype within that system and it was completed as far as getting it up to the three different departments or units in the county, the fire department and their firehouse database, our Acela system and our petroleum information area and APCD's data.

So the data is still being imported into that system. It comes in every Tuesday morning, we've looked at the data it's still there however during the last budget cycle there was not funding allocated to improve or maintain that system so it sits out there on a computer with software that I believe is no longer under current licensing so we can't upgrade things like that and there's no real Staff time allocated to do additional enhancements to turn it outward facing and provide that interface. We do still have a single database that has the reports that were reviewed here last May, those data is still being pulled next year however there's another budgetary hurdle Whether or not that system will be maintained in any fashion. I think Mr. Nesbitt is in Santa Barbara and he can correct me if I've said anything that doesn't...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:30:46 · ≈ 11:30 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board. Everything Mr. Mason says is correct. If there's any questions I'll be happy to answer them. I guess the only thing I would add to what he said or maybe I'll underscore the relationship between the broader project called Data for Decision Making and the onshore oil database which was a part of that larger project so Going to the broader project of data for decision making, and the comment was made by Supervisor Carbajal that that effort was millions-of-dollar project. I think that probably came from the thought of what data for decision making could be and the idea of it pulling data on not just onshore oil but lots of different things I'm And the project manager who was managing that project left ITD, and we have not replaced that position.

So that's the bigger picture. Everything Mr. Mason says about specifically the onshore oil database is true. It's being refreshed every Tuesday. Data from those three departments is still being put into that database. And so it's still at the same state it was when this presentation was before you six months ago. The only thing that has changed The maintenance contract with Cognos has not been updated and so it'll continue as it is. If there was any desire on the board to make that system more robust or continue it in a different way, we could make some recommendations about doing that.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:32:41 · ≈ 11:32 AM

Supervisor Carliva Hall, do you have a follow-up on that? Just very briefly. I appreciate that Mr. Nesbitt. I guess I would just ask us is that the only way to achieve the centralization that this board was seeking and maybe Miss Waller if he could follow up on that to see if indeed we have the makings of what we wanted. We just need to finesse it in a different way look at a much more elementary inexpensive way of achieving that without having to buy, you know from getting from home to the store. You could go in a Pinto instead of the Mercedes, you know? So if we could look at that, that would be great. I still remember the Pinto.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:33:20 · ≈ 11:33 AM

Somebody writes it down on index cards maybe and files it under ABC. Do you have a comment Ms. Wallace? Yes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:33:26 · ≈ 11:33 AM

Chairwoman Supervisor We certainly can and I just want to give you some information on some further efforts we're taking in regard to this program. We're actually bringing the three main departments that are involved in the different aspects of the program and inspection together for a business process reengineering over the next 30-60 days, and my hope would be that this would be one component but that we would actually possibly find Some enhanced consistency among those departments and some streamlining as well, and we'll report that back to your board.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:33:57 · ≈ 11:33 AM

Thanks Miss Waller because boy the right hand did not know what the left hand was doing. Supervisor Wolf? Thank you Madam Chair and that's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:34:03 · ≈ 11:34 AM

very well put. You know here we are almost four years later and I still get a sense of frustration about the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. And the reason I say that is because after these initial incidents We had asked our fire department to send us the bulletins when they happened. And so we've been getting those bulletins and I happened to talk to our county council to see if he was getting them for legal reasons, and he was not in the loop.

Ms. Waller, I'm glad you're putting something together And I agree with Supervisor Carbajal, this does not appear to be rocket science. To get everyone on the same page where everyone understands what's going on because this problem has been going on for way too long and I would strongly encourage you to make sure that county council is involved in your roundtable group so we can get a handle on it and everyone knows what's going on as far as these I

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.692:35:16 · ≈ 11:35 AM

have a question. On the federal regulations that is cited here, 40 CFR part 300 when we talk about a spill there are we talking about outside containment also? Is that what the federal regulation is when they talk about a spill?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:35:35 · ≈ 11:35 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Lavinia. I don't think they specify

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.692:35:38 · ≈ 11:35 AM

inside

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:35:39 · ≈ 11:35 AM

or outside of containment.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.692:35:40 · ≈ 11:35 AM

I guess my question is why do we have a federal regulation that is at 25 barrels considered a minor spill but in Santa Barbara County we've dropped that down to 15 barrel and that's now high risk offender if they're both apples and apples with their both being inside containment it seems that we're putting an undue burden on I mean, it's another regulation that we're taking even a step further.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:36:09 · ≈ 11:36 AM

Madam Chair and Supervisor Lavagnino if I could just briefly respond. We did look behind that federal regulation the Code of Federal Regulation and in fact that's nominally the threshold between a minor and a more major spill but the regulations do note that spills of a lesser volume can in fact have significant consequences. So what we've tried to craft here is something that's compatible with that Federal Code of Regulation, but goes a little bit more specific to the effects of this bill. So that's why we've included the in-containment versus out-of containment in our recommendation to the Board

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:36:52 · ≈ 11:36 AM

today. Any other lights on? Doesn't look like it so shall we go to public comment? Oh Supervisor Farr

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:37:00 · ≈ 11:37 AM

Thank you, Madam Chair. Ms. Black when we're so now we're just talking about outside secondary containment is that correct? So is there any way that it's tracked if you had an operator that was they just weren't maintaining their equipment and they were having spills all the time even if they were within containment And also track like two specific leases so that you could kind of see whether there were some areas that were particularly problematic in a bigger view rather than just the individual spills.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:37:38 · ≈ 11:37 AM

Madam Chair and Supervisor Farr, we do track data by facility and we do track all spills in containment outside of containment under 15 or 25 barrels over 15 and 25 barrels. So we can certainly We will certainly continue to track all of that data and we can certainly report on that data easily. Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:38:00 · ≈ 11:38 AM

you. Other comments? Madam Chair?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:38:05 · ≈ 11:38 AM

Mr. Nesbitt.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:38:06 · ≈ 11:38 AM

Yeah, I have one more comment just to complete the conversation on Mr. Carbajal's follow-up question on is there a simpler way on the database. My answer to that is yes there is Again, the database that is provided now that is refreshed each week. If that's meeting the needs then I would argue that you do have the Pinto right now. We are planning to continue to refresh that database and we have actually in preparing looking forward to our budget for next year we have provided just a very limited amount of support for the database in its current form so if that's meeting everyone's needs You have it and it really isn't costing us a lot of money to continue what you currently have.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:38:56 · ≈ 11:38 AM

Thank you, Mr. Nesmith and we're going to find another word other than pento. We're making folks nervous up here. Let's see. Mr. Caldwell, you're the only speaker so make it good. He drives it. Do you drive a pento?

CommentAndy CaldwellProposedself-stated2:39:14 · ≈ 11:39 AM

Never did.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:39:18 · ≈ 11:39 AM

Don't make him count for that. Give him three minutes.

CommentAndy CaldwellProposedself-stated2:39:21 · ≈ 11:39 AM

That was a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:39:24 · ≈ 11:39 AM

sneak attack there. Boy, we could use up all this time.

CommentAndy CaldwellProposedself-stated2:39:29 · ≈ 11:39 AM

Mr. Caldwell you're up. I'm Andy Caldwell representing CoLab. I want to put things into perspective. I've actually done a couple of shows on this lately. We've been reading about millions of fish showing up dead and tens of thousands of birds dropping out of the sky dead And experts are looking for one explanation or another, but some scientists say this stuff happens all over the world all of the time.

But in Santa Barbara County if we have an oil spill and there's one dead bird somebody has got hell to pay. And the point here is is we need to take a step back here And ask whether or not to some degree we tend to hyperventilate when industry is involved. In reality, you could talk to some regulators and they'll tell you that oil is a naturally occurring organic chemical if you want to call it that, that is non-hazardous yet we treat it as if, you know, it's kryptonite Now, we haven't had very many hearings on how much oil seeps down Toro Canyon Creek.

We haven't had too many hearings about how much oil and natural gas foul the waters in the air through seeps off our coasts. How much wildlife suffers from that and what happens to our air quality? That compared to shipping for instance or that compared to manufacturing industry Why? Well, Mother Nature's benign and we can't do anything about it. But comparatively speaking what you're trying to regulate on land is absolutely dwarfed compared to what's happening naturally offshore.

And we think you need to keep that into perspective. We do not support you exceeding federal mandates We also want you to know that there's a difference between a property owner and a mineral rights owner. You can't punish the property owner for something that is basically benefiting either the oil industry or the mineral rights owner because they may not be the same person, and you need to understand that.

The other thing you need to do to put this into perspective You're one of the biggest consumers of oil products in this county by virtue of maintaining county roads. How many of you know where you get asphalt from when a county has a project? Who's your supplier? What effect does your policies have on the cost you yourself pay for the raw materials that your department uses every day?

And how many barrels of oil do you purposely spray on roadways throughout the county of Santa Barbara? You need to have a perspective on this instead of just looking at industry as something evil and needing to be contained.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:42:43 · ≈ 11:42 AM

Thank you, Mr. Caldwell. Do we have a difference in the mineral rights owner and the property owner because that is a huge difference. And does it matter? I guess, you know.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:43:00 · ≈ 11:43 AM

Madam Chair, I think it's an important concept and it's one we can look at. I think we refer to owner and when we refer to owner, we really do mean the owner of the mineral rights but we could probably be clearer.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:43:13 · ≈ 11:43 AM

Because there are many pieces of property in the Santa Maria Valley where the mineral rights are held by the original family that owned the property maybe six owners ago And so you know when you can fix that. We'll sort through that. OK, thanks. Any other questions or comments? Are we ready to vote on this, or do we want to? No, that was it. Mr. Caldwell was the total comment. So you're going

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:43:40 · ≈ 11:43 AM

to bring this back with... Go ahead, Diane. Madam Chair and Supervisors, my recommendation is that we continue this first reading to February 1st to allow us to make To look at some of these changes and to make the other changes that we know we want to make.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:43:55 · ≈ 11:43 AM

Do we have the appropriate motion to do that? Is there a second? Second, and

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:44:01 · ≈ 11:44 AM

you're bringing on continuing it. And I just wanted to just clarify Miss Black about your look at that the inclusion of the 45 days as part of the... Do you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:44:13 · ≈ 11:44 AM

need a vote on that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:44:15 · ≈ 11:44 AM

Madam Chair and Supervisor Wolf I can try to explain it again. There is a reason why we did not include that 45 day, and it was to allow us to use our tools sequentially rather than at the same time. And maybe I didn't explain that well today so I'll try and explain that in our board letter to you on February 1st.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:44:36 · ≈ 11:44 AM

Can you explain it now? Sure. Because... Yeah just go ahead and explain it again.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:44:43 · ≈ 11:44 AM

Yes Madam Chair and Supervisors So the main reason that we've proposed to change the threshold with respect to timing, to eliminate the 45-day period and to clarify that the 30-day period also includes the time frame for issuance of an NOD is that we see these tools as our Notice of Violation and Notice of Determination of Fine tool and the High Risk Offender tool as compatible tools but tools we don't want to use necessarily at the same time. Our primary tool for gaining compliance at oil and gas facilities and throughout the County of Santa Barbara is our Notice of Violation process, and if somebody does not correct a notice of violation within 30 days or some other reasonable period of time granted by the department then we issue a Notice of Determination of Fine.

And that basically says they haven't complied within the timeframe provided And so they're into a next step. That's the point in time where we would want the high risk offender ordinance to help us in gaining compliance because the notice of violation process has not been a successful tool. So having the 45 day limit in there can result in us using both tools at the same time and we think it's better and more defensible if First exhaust the use of one tool and then move into the next.

And we gain a tremendous amount of compliance through the use of our notice of violation process.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:46:25 · ≈ 11:46 AM

But how do you answer the question which I brought up earlier that if you have someone, an operator that has 60 violations in a year? On all of these, there's all of these different code sections that could theoretically trigger a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:46:47 · ≈ 11:46 AM

violation. So maybe I need to take a step back even further and explain sort of how we typically discover these violations. So we do annual inspections and the fire department does annual inspections and APCD does annual inspections to renew their certificate to operate, it's called something else, permit to operate. And that's the point in time where we identify violations, and then we are working to get the operator to correct those violations. We don't typically see a violation at a facility and then go back out two months later and see 10 different violations, and then go back out two months later and see 10 different violations. We really identify the violations at their annual inspection. We go out and re-inspect to ensure that they've corrected them If there's another violation, we'll note it but that's not a typical process.

There

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:47:45 · ≈ 11:47 AM

have been instances where we've seen spills and likely a violation had occurred and so it's not necessarily the first inspection you might have a few throughout the year And they don't meet that threshold of the, you know it doesn't meet the NOV threshold and it doesn't meet the spillage threshold. But in fact that is what has been determined to cause a spill. So if you have three of those why wouldn't that make an operator a high risk operator? What I'm trying to do is just look at another scenario. If you're saying that doesn't happen or it's not realistic I'd like to hear it, but I don't understand why that cannot be included or

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:48:37 · ≈ 11:48 AM

should not. Madam Chair and Supervisor Walz, I'm certainly not trying to represent that a situation like that couldn't happen, but I think that the notice of violation tool provides us with the leverage that we need to gain compliance and if it doesn't The violation is going to go to Notice of Determination of Fine and then it will kick into the High Risk Offender Ordinance. So I just don't see the utility in applying both tools at the same time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:49:09 · ≈ 11:49 AM

We're struggling here with

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:49:12 · ≈ 11:49 AM

understanding... That's fine, I understand. I'm just trying to think of another tool. But I don't think we need to continue the discussion. Because

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:49:21 · ≈ 11:49 AM

it seems

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:49:23 · ≈ 11:49 AM

unless I get some traction from other board members, we'll just leave it as it is.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:49:31 · ≈ 11:49 AM

Any other comments? Did we get a motion to continue and we got a second? And does anyone else want to say anything? All right all in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? With that, I believe we've come to the end of the board meeting. Supervisor Farr

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:49:47 · ≈ 11:49 AM

Actually, Madam Chair don't we need to adjourn back into closed session?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:49:51 · ≈ 11:49 AM

Yes we do.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:49:52 · ≈ 11:49 AM

But let's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:49:52 · ≈ 11:49 AM

go ahead and pretend this... We're going to be kind of adjourning but we'll be back because we would like to recognize folks on camera.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:49:59 · ≈ 11:49 AM

Okay and thank you for that. Yes I'd like to close at least this part of the meeting for us to remember two individuals that lived in my district that passed away in December. The first is Fred L. Fredericks who passed away on December 15th He moved to San Ines in 1972. He built what is now known to us as the Marriott Hotel in Buellton, and he also built Federico's Mexican Restaurant, the Parks Plaza Theater, and Crystal's Ice Cream Parlor. And one of his passions was to breed and race horses. The other person I'd like to recognize who passed on December 20th was Jim Vreeland, who many of you may remember from all of the TV commercials that he did calling himself Mr. Nobody. He moved to Buelton in 1986 when he bought the Ford dealership and that's when he started doing the TV commercials.

He played a very important role in the incorporation of the city of Buelton and was a great community supporter of the local 4-H and other youth organizations As well as a member of the Santa Ana Valley Elks, the Solvang Vikings and the Santa Ana Valley Thoroughbred Association. So I would like to adjourn in their honor. Thank you Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:51:13 · ≈ 11:51 AM

Any others? With that we will now go into closed session and complete our closed session. Thank you. Yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed2:52:29 · ≈ 11:52 AM

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