BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

You. Yeah. Welcome to a very, very special meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. A very special day September 13th 2011. May we please have roll call?

Ms. Wolfe? Here. Ms. Farr? Here Mr. Labagino? Here Mr. Carbajal? Here Ms. Gray?

Thank you. And at this time we're going to adjourn, not adjourn, we're going to stand up and walk out and dedicate and celebrate the naming of this building after one wonderful citizen Joe Centeno who served with us for eight years, served Santa Maria for 108 years and has just made all kinds of history. He is joined with his wonderful wife Sylvia and a niece Lisa Ponce And the finest winemaker in the Valley of Santa Maria, Fred Quigley and a great golfer.

And his wife and sister of Joe, Connie Quigley. And last but not least our old and dear friend Bob Royster. So thank you all for being here and we're just going to go outside and do what we do.

Yeah. You. you Okay.

Well, that was just delightful. Fine, fine ma'am. Let's see we're going to be back talking about the administrative agenda. Are there any folks that would like to pull something off the administrative agenda? Supervisor Farr. Madam Chair I'd like to pull A7 please. A7.

Madam Chair A6. A6

Any folks in the audience? No.

We have two requests to speak in Santa Barbara from Dr. Johns on items A1 and A4.

And you folks wanted to make some changes?

public comment and Madam Chair if I could ask that we get a motion to approve the minutes of the September 6 meeting.

Is there a motion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Approved and now we're ready to discuss A1 and A4 if you'd read that.

Madam Chair, members of the board item A1 is a resolution from the first district and it's proclaiming the month of September 2011 as National Alcohol and Drug Addiction Recovery Month in Santa Barbara County And A4? And item A4 is also from the First District and it is a resolution of commendation honoring Raimundo Montes de Oca for his dedicated service as the Santa Barbara County Public Defender.

Thank you, three minutes Dr. Johns these are just resolutions. Dr. Johns well I guess we'll have to he's not there Does anybody in Santa Barbara know where Dr. John's is?

Dr. John stepped out of the office for a moment, he'll be right back

Alright let's go to A7 and A6 Let's start with A7

Item A7 is from Human Resources and it is to consider recommendations regarding the 2012 Health Insurance Program renewal.

Supervisor Farr? Thank you Madam Chair, I had a number of questions about this and I had asked Ms. Muth and the CEO's office to provide us with some additional information which we all received but I just wanted to make a couple comments based on that. The first is, is that I think that while I'm unhappy it's kind of too late for this year to do anything different, I would like staff for next year to really look at the self-funded dental program.

It seems to, the limit seems to be very low now and when I learned that it hadn't been increased at least a decade or more. I think it's clear that we really need to look at that program and see what it would cost to provide additional coverage, or maybe being a self-funded program is not the most cost effective way to go. So I would hope that staff would look at that for next year. Also the costs of health clinics which have been very popular and I think have really been helpful overall managing our costs for health insurance.

I think that the cost for those should be broken out separate from the actual cost of the health insurance renewal because the figures that we got had them both together and then last of all, I really think from a process standpoint it's better If these issues come to the board prior to going to the Health Oversight Committee, because if the Board has any comments then those can be incorporated in those discussions and then come back to the Board for approval.

Thank

you.

Thank You supervisor a

Item A-6 is from General Services and it is to consider recommendations regarding a resolution of the Board of Supervisors to join with the California Emerging Technology Fund in launching Get Connected, a public awareness campaign to promote high speed internet access to all communities.

Thank you Madam

Chair. I know we voted back in April to direct a letter to the PUC and I saw on the staff report that it was basically ignored, it seems. And this is a real problem out in the Cuyama area. They have very limited access to the internet and I know Supervisor Carbajal's going to be speaking on this issue as well but I just want to see if there's a way through either our Ledge Committee that we contact our state legislators and ask them Some pressure that can be put on to receive a response to that or what our next step is. At this point, I know we sent a second letter and I'm not sure if we've received a response to that or not but you know it sounds...I hear a lot from constituents that they contact the PUC and never really receive any legitimate response and I hope that they take us a little more seriously.

If they don't like to see where our next plan of attack is going to be.

Does anyone have a suggestion on this? Mr. Nesmith.

Madam Chair, members of the board. Yeah I wrote the second letter almost a month ago now and the thought behind the second letter of course while we didn't get a response but when I spoke to the gentleman from the CPUC right after the first letter was sent He kind of threw a bureaucratic curveball at me and said, well your comments are more appropriate after we issue them a state franchise.

And we provided that first letter during the 30-day process while the state was deciding whether to grant their state franchise. So I said okay fair enough they granted the state franchise and then I wrote the second letter saying okay now we really want you to address our concerns which are there's some communities that are underserved And there are certain sections in the code which address potential communities that are underserved. So I was going to give them another month to respond, and we're almost at that point. My suggestion at this point would be to contact them, set up a conference call or do what Supervisor Lavagnino is suggesting and go through state folks But I also have a consultant that we've used from time to time who is really well-known in this industry.

Her name's Sue Buskey. She consults nationally on cable issues, and she knows people at the CPUC. So my suggestion would be if we initiate a conference call that we involve her, engage her services to help us get our message to the CPUC staff, get it to the right staff. And if we also have to go the other direction, we do that as well.

Supervisor Carbajal?

Thank you. Now that Cuyama I guess is in the first district, I want to report that yesterday I had a meeting with some of the constituents from Cuyama and this is one of the issues they raised about the need to have cell phone and cable enhancements in the area. I know that one of the only ways Get cell phone coverage is if you use a satellite cell phone. And so I think Supervisor Lavaniello is correct, we need to look at a way of getting their attention and getting hopefully not just their attention but some substantive positive response in addition to what we do with our legislators and our legislative advocates I would like to work actually with our CEO's office to identify who the providers are, area providers in our area so that we could set up a meeting with whether it be Verizon or T-Mobile or whoever it is as well as whether it's Comcast or Cox to find out what the feasibility and possibility of enhancing services over there, whether putting in cell towers or what have you.

So if we could take a two-pronged approach one is this way and the other way is working with the existing corporations that have services that might be extended to that area

Thank you, Supervisor. Supervisor Farr?

One last thing. Whatever letter future correspondents we send I just want to make sure that it does include Los Alamos and Cuyama spelled out instead of just making reference to underserved communities.

Supervisor

Farr. Thank you Madam Chair. Well, I certainly want to add my voice in support for what Supervisors Lavagnino and Carbajal have said. We approved the Los Alamos community plan because it first came up then. And you know, I'm very supportive of making communication better in Quiama. I think it's rather surprising and kind of shocking that a community like Los Alamos which is right on Highway 101 right between these communities that are very well served is also not well served So I think that the names of the communities that we're concerned about does need to be spelled out and I'm very supportive of the two-pronged approach to talk with the utility providers directly as well as through the political context. Thank you.

Thank you, Supervisors. To Dr. Johns, A1 and A4, Madam Clerk did we read those into the record?

Yes, Madam Chair, we did.

Yes, first of all I'd like to honor Supervisor Joe Centeno for his counsel that is towards me and for his gratitude towards me. And I wish him a tremendous retirement and I'm very happy that ex-supervisor Centeno had that building named after him Thank you, Supervisor Centeno. On number one, the National Alcohol Drug Recovery Month in Santa Barbara? Well that's a misnomer.

The alcohol drug and mental health department does not serve the underserved people, homeless people here in this county. If a homeless person right now were to walk into The alcohol, drug and mental health department they would not be served. That's against the state of California law serving people who are homeless, who don't have enough money for services and that alcohol, drug and mental health department violates the state law and we're making it and we're nationally Recognition for Alcohol and Drug Addiction Recovery. Not here in this county, that's on this Nomer Carver Hall.

And now I would like to honor Ramundo Montes de Orca for his service as a County Public Prosecutor. But you know I have a question here. Why hasn't Joyce Dudley had six positions and she had six positions and not hire one Mexican-American or one black district attorney? That's curious, isn't it? Don't you think that would be curious? Well for me that's not curious. That's racism. Thank you.

Thank you Dr. Johns. I'm struggling with my microphone today. And that takes care of the A agenda We need a motion to approve. Is there a second? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? I believe now we're ready for public comment.

Madam Chair, we have two requests to speak. The first is Dr. Johns in Santa Barbara to be followed by Sam Cohen here in Santa Maria.

Thank you. Dr. Johns, public comment.

Excellent examples of racism would be Carbajal's refusal to apologize for a racial slur that is Carbajal and Toledo City Councilman Ecevides, to apologize for a racial slur towards an ethnic American here in this community. And Quiama, beware of Carbajal! And also Farr Beware of FAR. Now let me give you a good example of FAR's racism and discrimination.

Dr. Johns, let's

take it a little easy please.

Remember we're going to be nice and kind.

Okay I'll try to ease this on you just a little bit, but during the re-discipline hearing we had some San Yanez Vintners that was from That was from your district, Pharr. Do you support these veterinaries? And they did make some comments toward students that wasn't done. They made comments like we're not like your students out there in Isla Vista. We're different from those students in Isla Vista. You see that's an attitude Supervisor Pharr, that's a racist attitude.

That's a racist attitude. Now, last week you brought that racist attitude in the way of a resolution honoring the Santa Ynez Veteran's Organization. Now isn't that something? You bring that racist attitude right here to this board and making a resolution to honor those racists! Wow! Racism, that's a double whammy all the way. Of course you know I'm only Dr. Johns, only Professor Johns, only the psychologist and I'm the only one who sees that as racism? You better believe I'm not!

Well let me just...I got about a minute here what can I else say? When you have people with these types of attitudes, and beware. I can't get that term. Anyway, beware out there that Carbajal is coming at you. And FAR, you're coming at the North County also. Beware!

Thank you Dr. John, Supervisor Carbajal.

Dr. Jones, despite your harsh words I just wanted to welcome you back from the hospital. Just glad to see you're doing better.

Thank You Supervisor Carbajal. I think we're ready for Mr. Cohen. Welcome Mr. Cohen

Good morning, members of the Board of Supervisors. I'm Sam Cohen and I work for the San Ynez Band of Chumash Indians. It's a pleasure to be here today in public comment. In the San Ynez Valley where I personally live We are experiencing a robust exchange of ideas. There was one public meeting Friday the 26th, I'm pleased to invite you to the Santa Ynez Band of Chumash public meeting which we're holding this Friday at the Chumash Samalish Showroom at 6 p.m., and I put flyers down on the back counter for any of you who'd like to pull a flyer And of course, everyone is invited. It is a public meeting.

As of June 1st the tribe has proposed a cooperation agreement with this Board of Supervisors and we've exchanged a copy of that agreement with the county's chief executive officer and we were wondering if you could schedule a hearing on that agreement at some time in the near future? Thank you very much for your time.

Thank you Mr. Cohen. Thank you for being here today. That concludes public comment

All

right, let's now go to item number one of the departmental agenda. And that is Mr. Harris that will be talking about emergency service. Madam Clerk?

Madam Chair and members of the board, item number one is from the County Executive Office and the Office of Emergency Services. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the adoption of the 2011 Santa Barbara County Multi-Jurisdiction Hazard Mitigation Plan.

Good morning Madam Chair, members of the board. I'm Michael Harris joining us this morning is Richard Abrams from the Office of Emergency Management. Richard's a certified emergency manager with the International Association of Emergency Managers and Richard has been serving as the lead on this project. We're going to talk a little bit about the Hazard Mitigation Plan and put it in context. Talk about some of the projects that are within the plan, and also help the community to understand what that means to have these projects there and what the various projects try to address.

We're here to get the approval of the board for the county hazard mitigation plan. Well today, the approvals for the county's portion of the plan each city is working with Richard to complete their individual plans those individual plans are submitted to our office And if approved, submitted to state and federal officials for their review. We refer to these city plans as annexes and that they serve as the city's mitigation plan. Three cities, Lompoc, Santa Maria, and Buelton have submitted their plans to Office of Emergency Management. We in turn have approved and submitted those plans, those annexes to the state and federal officials for their review and approval. Upon FEMA's approval, those city annexes go back to their City Councils for their adoption.

Normally our office would bring a proposed plan to this board and request permission to submit the plan to FEMA. FEMA's policy however is that FEMA approve or disapprove the plan prior to coming to the Governing Board of the jurisdiction. A copy of the approval letter from FEMA is included in the board packet. The full plan, in addition to the executive plan which is in your packet, the full plan is at the county's website, countyofsb.org slash CEO slash OES.

It's important to understand the context of this plan that the format and the data used is predicated upon a federal format and data. And some of the data is very broad and nonspecific in its approach. For example, the federal government defines a wildland-urban interface or WUI as being within a specific distance to the federal wildlands. With this definition we end up with some urban areas as being defined in that WUI or the Wildland Urban Interface that we as local professionals might dispute.

Resolving this conflict though is for example using the state and most importantly local experts to provide clarity. The fire service, the flood control district are examples of local experts that take federal and sometimes state data to provide a more accurate threat and risk profile. This federal plan in the sheer scope of the project requires the use of HAZUS HAZUS is a federal spatial data system that assists local governments in developing damage scenarios.

It's important to recognize that HAZUS, which is the required format for using this plan, is 2006 data and we can tell you right up front that it's dated data in some places and that there's been some achievements in reducing some of the risks to our constituents through some of the projects What Hazus does, for example, is identifies the Santa Maria courthouse as being in a flood zone. But we know that that has been largely mitigated by the hard work of the Flood Control District, the City of Santa Maria and the Corps Army Corps of Engineers by improving the Santa Maria levee.

Finally, it's important to note that the adoption of this plan does not impact our constituents insurance rates. For example as mentioned above even though HAZUS identifies some flood risk areas and that risk is translated into the plan insurers base their individual rates and plans upon more up-to-date flood maps and analysis provided by FEMA and the County Flood Control District The other thing that's important to know about this plan is that the projects listed in this plan do not necessarily obligate this board, the county or any of the cities to doing these projects. This simply is a plan that puts these projects on the radar screen. For example there are plans that address the Goleta Beach, the Goleta Pier and other areas Those projects that are identified in this plan does not obligate the county or the board to do those projects, nor stick with whatever mitigation measures have been adopted.

This plan allows us after an emergency or disaster in which hazard mitigation funds become available is to sit down collectively look at what a most appropriate mitigation strategy is and then address those strategies with the federal government. So specifically, you'll see some projects in there in the plan itself. Maybe around the Goleta Beach, maybe around some of the other things that do not obligate the county or the board to doing those. Those things change and what we have in the plan now will evolve over the next year and will evolve over the years after that.

This is an update of the 2005 FEMA approved plan for the county. It focuses on the natural hazards and repetitive damage history, and there's a couple things that are really important there. The issue around repetitive damage and the at-risk properties, they're repetitive. What FEMA specifically is getting very clear about is that when there's damages from repeated storms or events, they're continually looking at it asking why they continually have to come back and repair damages.

This identifies mitigation strategies and projects. Again, the strategies, the projects, the things called for in this plan are not necessarily obligated of the county. These simply get some of these issues up in front of the state and federal agencies that when funding becomes available it allows the county to approach the state and federal agencies for money to help mitigate some of these damages.

Excuse me Mr. Harris, I have a question. Yes ma'am. Would this apply at all? I know Guadalupe is not in line anymore but would this apply at all to the washed out road? We've told them over and over how to fix the damn road and they don't pay attention.

Madam Chair, it would apply to the road. I think one of the things that maybe some of the bad news I would give you is that we know that FEMA has been under a great deal scrutiny for financial reasons, the amount of money they're spending and what Administrator Fugate has now done is he has stopped some...what that would be classified for example in Guadalupe as a permanent restoration or repair and he's actually stopped a number of permanent repairs to stay with emergency repairs So he's looking at the hurricane areas. As a matter of fact, even in Joplin Missouri they're not funding some permanent projects like the Guadalupe Dunes anymore simply because they're running out of money.

Mr. Harris as we kind of talk our way around this and I hear you know where you're kind of helping me understand why they're acting like this so with that being said is there a method that we could apply that would I mean Mr. McLaughlin and his staff explained to them prior to the flood, told them what could be done but had a plan for almost nothing and it was we were blown off?

Correct.

So is there another way that we could maybe do this differently so that we don't aren't sitting here explaining why they're acting like this and getting and we're getting our road fixed

I'll have to think about it. I will tell you that Congresswoman Capps has asked to meet with our office, we got a contact late yesterday from them and certainly one of the issues around the March 20th storms is something we want to talk to her office specifically about. And again looking at long-term strategies so we don't always have to keep coming back and saying here's damages again, here's damage again. So Richard would be able to say that one of the things they look at is Let's look at repairing or changing things so we don't continually have damages.

Madam Chair, Board Members thank you for the question. Absolutely we put on the big fight on Guadalupe Dunes trying to get complete repair of the roadway funded through FEMA but FEMA in their infinite wisdom unfortunately would not fund that work so we're going to look at some alternatives and get creative as far as FEMA is concerned and work with the Parks Department find options to perhaps realign that road

Do either of you think that because maybe they thought oh, that's just a nice road to a pretty beach or something to that effect. That allows folks to fish but as far as Guadalupe is concerned that is economically just critical that that that be accessed and Guadalupe is a low income community, you know there's some poverty there. So maybe if we made the argument hello you're cutting off the economic well-being I don't know I'm only guessing.

Certainly that could be part of our package if we go back and talk to FEMA about a reconstruction of that roadway

Ms. Waller? Chairwoman, members of the board I was just going to let you know that we totally understand not only the impact to the park but the impact to the community and in the very near future we're going to be bringing to you some ideas to fund either the temporary improvement or even the permanent improvement so I think you'll be pleased to hear we've got some ideas for how to repair or replace that

If we could have just spent the money that we spent on the plan on the road it would be a dumb deal You know, enough said. Sorry. Supervisor Barr you wanted to say something?

Well Madam Chair I certainly hardly concur with your comments and actually I have a number of questions in a few minutes when Mr. Harris is done with his presentation but I think right now at the end of I think it's page 4-24 where we talk about the fiscal capability and financial resources I think perhaps we need to talk about adding to that list, if we can, something to do with legislative action for additional FEMA funding. Because you know, we clearly cannot support what we need to do here with even some of these methods that we're going to have to put pressure on our lobbyists and our legislators to really help us here with the actions

Thank you and thank you for taking my question. I know, but I

just wanted to get on with it. I will tell the board that it's always and I'm sure Ms. Waller appreciates this too from her experiences in San Diego. It's very difficult after an emergency or disaster to have people from different parts of the country with a federal agency walk-in and have them fully appreciate what damages mean to local community They do see a road that goes up to a pretty park as opposed to part of an economic network for a small community.

Getting back to this, just again the overview is we're looking at the mitigation strategies and projects. One of the important things about this is it informs and educates the public. Previous plans like this just went on the administrative agenda. We're using this and Richard's really using this with local emergency managers in the cities to educate and inform the public develop response planning and look at future planning decisions by all the various governing boards. When you look at floodplains or wildland urban interface or anything like that, what impact does it have and how do you as a governing board approach that for a particular area?

We want to, as you were mentioning too We want to make sure that we have a disaster-resistant future development. We want to make sure that we reduce our threats and that we want to make sure that the federal hazard mitigation funds that come after disaster become available to us. One of the things, as an example here in Santa Maria is the hazard mitigation funds that are being used in the Santa Maria courthouse for seismic retrofit That is a direct result of a previous 2005 plan. We got this plan in quickly and used FEMA funding to develop a brand new 2011 plan in order to make sure that that funding remained available for the county.

We want to make sure that the county and the cities are coordinating and working together to reduce hazards and risks, and we want to make sure again that residents particularly are aware of their hazards. In that area of working together on the third bullet there's a couple examples and you know Scott was up here talking earlier about the things the flood control does in working with parks and roads Flood control, certainly a good example here is the Santa Maria Levee working with Santa Maria City and Army Corps Mission Creek in working with Santa Barbara City on Mission Creek not only to make that environmentally sound but also to help reduce flooding risks. And then even within the city of Goleta in the San Jose Creek project continually trying to reduce the hazards and building a project using this as a document to help educate people about their risk Here's some highlights for the county.

The report itself speaks at length and we're specifically looking at page 18 of the executive summary, but it speaks at length about climate change and some of the theories around sea level changes. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change suggests that by year 2100 the sea level may raise approximately one half foot to potentially two feet Other scientists estimate that the level of increase may almost be three feet. Also with climate change theory becomes a lot of discussion about much more variable weather, much more wetter winters, much more drier summers. Flooding is a significant risk to the county and that we want to make sure that the county and many of its structures remain protected from flooding. Flooding and severe weather is the major national problem in regards to property damage and lives lost.

Mitigation is the key to protecting county structures, and making sure that we take those actions to keep our investment in our capital projects and our property safe. Climate change theories greatly differ, but that if true and if long-term patterns suggest what we might anticipate is an increase in coastal erosion flooding and other impacts to our operational area.

Wildfire and wildfire vulnerabilities, the plan looked at the major wildfire over the last 89 years. Statistically speaking over that period there's about a 33% chance on any given year based on history that this county, this operational area will have a major wildfire. Again wetter winters with increased vegetation growth and potentially drier and hotter summers could increase fire threats.

The agricultural and pest section, I want to compliment Richard and the Ag Commissioner for talking about agriculture in this plan. This is a new section that they included because of the economic vitality and nature of our agricultural community and the way it drives much of our local economy. The potential for pests and pest expansion based on mobile society and any climate changes is significant. The impact from different pests could be significant.

Earthquake and tsunamis we're very familiar with, one of the things that's talked about on page 20 is a scenario over 7.0 earthquake This meeting is Goleta Valley, Cottage, San Ynez are all doing major seismic and rebuilding efforts. So we anticipate that our next report to the board will be able to make a big improvement on the availability of hospital beds after a major earthquake.

There are so many variables on what a local earthquake and the impacts it would have. Fault rupture, seismic soil types, ground motion. It really makes it anticipating and estimating what would happen after an earthquake very complicated. Landslide, again coastal erosion. The county has various soils. There's no county facilities in the high danger areas on landslides. We've got about 47 county facilities in moderate areas.

A major precipitant of landslides is increased rainfall. There's potentially a loss of coastal mass or coastline over the long term from coastal erosion. Finally, looking at dam failures. We're aware of the various big dams in the county, Bradbury Dam being an example. The biggest problem you have with those historically is liquefaction and other problems with the dams that could occur and flooding that could occur. The other problem with dams, of course, comes from the weather itself and just simply too much rain.

So the challenge is that you were mentioning...

Madam Chair, I'm sorry Mr. Harris if you can go back to the last slide One of the things that caught my attention Was in the staff report The discussion of nuclear power plants and that we don't and the critical facilities and the count was zero But I'm wondering why Even though we don't have one in our county, that it's not noted somewhere as a potential threat given some of our previous discussions that we've had here at the board.

Yes, Supervisor Wolf. This plan, a FEMA hazard mitigation plan deals specifically with the natural hazards facing us. We this plan is not the platform in the federal government's view to deal with the technology threats that we have nuclear power obviously being one hazardous material transports would be another Electrical grid failure because we're both at North and South County at the end of the electrical grid, so that's a big concern of ours. So FEMA in the hazard mitigation plans wants to focus on specifically natural hazards and our ability to mitigate those natural hazards through construction practices, road development, bridges that meet standards and things like that.

Okay, then why did we get that report from the different gas company? There was quite a long letter in the report talking about their safety protocol.

I'd have to look at that and maybe ask Richard for some help in that discussion.

Madam Chair, members of the board. So I haven't read the letter from the utility companies. We certainly invited the utility companies to participate in the planning process and we haven't Other than identifying their pipeline infrastructure, whatever is available online. They've provided their information through the online sources so I haven't fully appreciated what the letter contained. We certainly did involve them or invite them into the process. Which

I thought was really good to see that But it kind of, if we want information from them why wouldn't we want it from another utility to incorporate it? And what I think I'm hearing you say is that it's not required of us.

Well Supervisor Wolff, I think maybe not so much as it's not required but when we look at specific issues such as the pipelines They're going to run through areas that may be at risk. They may go across bridges that aren't seismically retrofitted, they may go across soils that are more prone to landslide, they may be at risk like any other building within our county. So we look at things like and as Richard said you know inviting the utilities whether it's electrical or gas to participate in this what we specifically look at are those things that are risked from natural hazards within the county So Diablo, while it's a significant concern of our county as a neighboring county, Diablo is not specifically at risk from the natural hazard within our county.

Pipelines, electrical lines those types of infrastructure are at risk from the things I mentioned

Okay you know what, it appears that we're following certain protocol which is good but I still think that we at some point need to come back to the board and talk about our planning for Potential impacts from Diablo planning for from the the gas lines that run through our community just so Just you know as a lot of these project Descriptions are outlined that we also touch on some of those things at a later date that are that are specific to our county

Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Thank you supervisor

Carbajal

thank you Mr. Harris, if you could go to the actual executive summary of the hazard mitigation plan and look at page three? It's going to underscore the point I'm going to make. You know, oftentimes these plans... Well first of all there is no perfect plan that's obvious to all planning folks but sometimes what I think happens is that we put forth these plans and they inadvertently for some of us and I say that in terms of the community We get the false expectation that that's it we're done, we got the plan. It's all taken care of and as Supervisor Wolf just raised you know that's just one issue I look at the goals here and I look at goal number three and then it says objective 3D Encourage other organizations within the private, public sectors, non-profit sectors to incorporate hazard mitigation activities into their existing programs and plans.

Now the logical question I have is what's the timeline? Is there short term, midterm, long term? We identify this we say this but when are the nonprofits going to be engaged next year, this year, three years from now? What does this mean? I mean, help me understand. If I'm reading this and I look at the date and month and year that this was adopted or discussed my logical question is when is that going to get done?

Do you break it down into near term, short term, long term? Do you have a plan? What does it mean?

Supervisor Carbajal, we intend on bringing back to you our strategic plan in specific to these areas and other areas. And what is emergency management with the cities working on? What are our various focus areas? What are our goals and what are the timelines for getting these done? We met probably about let's say about a month ago About a month ago with all of the cities, all of the appropriate non-profits to discuss the strategic move forward on these type of items. We have a very strong relationship with the non-profits through our volunteers and organizations assisting during disasters so... Thank

you Mark.

Our intent is to bring this back.

Thank you. I think that's what I was hoping to hear because I kept asking myself, well what does this mean? What gets implemented and when? Completely agree. I appreciate you informing us that you're bringing this back and hopefully with some strategic time frames. We want to bring back

some meat to show you when we're going to get things

done.

Thank you. Supervisor Ford? Thank you, Madam Chair. You know actually I was going to bring this up later but I'll just piggyback on what Supervisor Carvajal said. I guess what I see here is wonderful and tremendous information And we have all these mitigations, but I guess what I'm looking for is actually a plan. So how do these mitigations become a prioritized plan of action with some sort of a coordinated funding strategy? And even leaving the other jurisdictions out of it, it's not clear to me on some of these projects that are public works and parks projects. Some of them may already be in our capital improvement plan, but some of them may not be And so, you know if they aren't in the CIP they certainly should be in the CIP. And I think that they need to be denoted in some way with a red star or something and a footnote that says this is part of our emergency planning effort.

So that when we're looking at the CIP and we're looking about what we're going to fund and how we're going to fund it that those kind of pop out as part of this