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Good
morning, ladies and gentlemen. It's time to call the meeting of October 11th to order. Welcome. Glad to see everyone with us. Mr. Allen, let's start with roll call.
Ms. Will?
Here.
Ms. Farrer?
Here.
Mr. Lavagnino? Here Mr. Carbajal? Here Ms. Craig?
Thank you and salute to Veterans Day. Approval of minutes of October the 4th. Columbus. Oh, I moved those veterans up, huh?
Next month is better. Next month.
I have a month
ahead.
Thank you Janet. I would be lost without you and that's the truth. So give me a motion on the minutes. No, you got it. All right thanks. And second by Supervisor Carpenter. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Administrative agenda. Mr. Allen are any of the folks in the audience want to talk about this?
Madam Chair, members of the board. We have two requests to speak on the administrative agenda both from Santa Maria from Dr. Robert Johns who'd like to speak on item A8 and A10. Pardon me from Santa Barbara.
Okay, A8 and A10 anybody else? Okay let's read Dr. Johns' items into the agenda is he coming up or is he staying down? He's coming up to the podium you can read while he walks
Madam Chair and members of the board, Adam A. Adus, I'm the district attorney. The request is that the board adopt a resolution authorizing the district attorney to renew an agreement with the California Department of Insurance for a workers' compensation insurance fraud prosecution unit in fiscal year 2011-2012 Item A-10 is from probation. Request that the board approve and authorize the chaired executed contract with Community Solutions Incorporated to provide services for post release community supervision offenders at the Sheriff's Day Reporting Centers, this is for the period of October 15, 2011 through June 30, 2012 in an amount not to exceed $391,989. Dr.
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Johns if you'd hold up for just a moment. The only items that we're going to be discussing are 8 and 10 And so, let's take a motion to approve the rest of the agenda. Is there a second? All in favor say aye. Aye. Anyone else listening that isn't involved may now leave. Dr. Johns 8 and 10
Yes Now There's really no need for extra funding for workers compensation Fraud is there's no need for this. This is a this is something that district attorney This is a time when there's many people out of work, many people searching for ways in order to support themselves. And this attorney is absolutely wrong on this. There should be...this is nothing but harassment of the people and there should be no funding whatsoever, extra funding on the part It's absolutely ridiculous and we need to check this district attorney. You already know what my issues are with Dudley, she is a fraud in the first place.
Now probation, this is nothing but fleecing the public It's a raid of the general fund. Now, when we discussed this in the hearing, probation department had already stated that they were going to be monitoring these people. That was stated in the hearing, that they knew the people and that they were going to be monitoring the people. We need to hold the probation department We need to hold them to their word. They're not keeping their word, I mean it's $391,000. It's fleecing the public!
There's no need for this. And they've already stated that they were going to monitor these people, that they had the resources, their caseload was gonna go up but why is this? Why do we have this? Why didn't they say this in the hearing? It's nothing but a raid of the general funds and we need general funds for other issues. Thank you.
Thank you, Dr. Johns and you have a nice day. Do we have any others? That's it. All right. We need a motion to approve 8 and 10. Is there a second? All in favor say aye. Aye. Thank you. We're ready now to go to public comment.
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Madam Chair, members of the board, we have two requests to speak in Santa Barbara starting with Dr. Robert Johns to be followed by Jeff Alexander and then return to Santa Maria and we have four requests to speak.
Okay, Dr. Johns again?
My public comment concerns last week And I saw so much bamboozling going on in this, on this Board of Supervisors last week. Especially by Cargill Hall when he attempted to make the Alcohol Drug and Mental Health Department give them an award. And as I stated last week that was just ridiculous. We know what the real issue here is. Number one, as I stated last week, the Alcohol Drug and Mental Health Department is stated just as stated by the Department of Mental Health, State of California is the worst department in California.
And then Supervisor Carbajal tries to bamboozle the public and tell you we're going to give you an award. The director is supposed to be monitored by the board and three other agencies that's not going on The board is supposed to be monitoring the director of alcohol, drug and mental health. That's not currently going on. Other issues in your district Carvajal last week the people only wanted what Montecito wanted In there was one particular person who had particular large amounts of trash.
Automobiles all over his property and they wanted that kind of removed. Of course, you knew about these issues Carpaw. It's just your reluctance your unwillingness to To participate in removing this items now if this was Montecito You would have done it immediately so the people from Mission Canyon came here and you're requesting, oh please don't come down here. You know? Because you're fearful that they will give you a bad rating and they won't vote for you. You should clear these issues up before and don't bring these people down here to the board. I agree with you. They shouldn't be here. They are here because of your lack of duty To them they just want what. And I have 41 seconds to go Madam Chair please. Now the last issue is concerning Cuyama and we know, and I'm going to start saying this you are the pot cling, you are the pot king of Santa Barbara County The reason why all this pot is coming to Santa Barbara is you, Carvajal and your refusal last year.
And I have 14 more seconds to go. Well, you're not going to sit there and
slander people so knock it off!
Okay, I won't call him the Pot King of Santa Barbara County again, Supervisor Carvajal. Bye.
So we're now ready for the next public speaker?
Our next speaker is Jeff Alexander and Senator Barbara to be followed by Francis Romero here in Santa Maria.
Good morning Madam Chair and Supervisors, I'm Jeff Alexander, Santa Barbara County Film Commissioner and I'm here this morning to speak with you about a documentary film project called The Lost City which we are hopeful will soon be shooting in the Guadalupe Dunes area. First though, I want to just affirm quickly that the county and county personnel have developed a great track record here in welcoming and supporting media production And that we've, as a result, developed a really fantastic reputation as a film-friendly destination. I'm a little concerned that recent permit difficulties related to this project may cast a bit of a shadow on this fantastic reputation. I have done my best to read through the correspondence related to the Lost City Project and it does appear that there may have been mistakes made which have put this project in jeopardy.
That is mistakes made by county personnel. I just want to say that if in fact there have been mistakes made by the county which led to a revocation of this project's permit, I would respectfully like to suggest and request that all efforts be made in a timely enough fashion to allow this project to proceed with all of the economic and PR benefits it will bring to the Guadalupe and Santa Maria areas. And I know there are a couple of speakers that are queued up after me who are going to give you a little bit more color and depth of information on this project, what it means to our area in terms of our tradition and our history. And in terms of our future. And I hope that you will listen very carefully to them. Thank you very much.
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Thank you Mr. Alexander. The next speaker Mr. Allen?
Yes, Frances Romero to be followed by Bob Hatch.
Ms. Romero, good morning. Good morning. Good morning Chair Gray, members of the board, staff and members of the public. My name is Frances Romero I'm here today as the Executive Director of the Dunes Center in Guadalupe. I'm also the Vice President of the Board of Directors, and I have lived in Guadalupe for over 15 years. Our board met last night and provided input and authorized me to speak on their behalf.
Four of nine of our board members are environmental professionals. The 1923 Cecil B. DeMille Ten Commandments movie set site is a recorded historic archaeological site located in Guadalupe Beach at Santa Barbara County Park For over 20 years, Peter Brosnan a documentary filmmaker has tried to complete a documentary that featured a salvage operation. Dr. John Parker an archaeologist with over 40 years of experience developed a salvage work plan that includes excavation of less than 50 cubic yards of sand.
That work would be performed by a small crew of archaeologists using hand tools and brushes. The County of Santa Barbara issued the permit for the project in January 2011, and funding was recently secured based on that permit. The excavation was supposed to start October 5th. On September 30th, the County of Santa Barbara stated that a mistake had been made and the wrong permit had been issued. The project has come to a halt. The crew was notified of a layoff 72 hours before their mobilization. You can imagine how devastating that is for a project.
Cancellation of equipment rentals and lease agreements for lodging, labs. All of that has already been done. The Dune Center is a non-profit environmental education organization located in Guadalupe. And we've been involved with this effort for over 10 years acting as curator for the set artifacts that are actually property of Santa Barbara County. And we handle the administrative functions for this project. At our visitor center, we address a high volume of interest in this historic film set. In exchange, the Dune Center earns an administrative fee that in part helps to fund the delivery of science programs to over 5,000 students annually. These are undisturbed children most of whom are at 22 schools located throughout northern Santa Barbara County and southern San Luis Obispo County.
The county has offered to expedite a new permit, but the two-month process would likely delay the project an entire year due to the rainy season and clover nesting season. This offer does not take into account all of the losses that we've already suffered, all of the costs that we cannot recoup. The Dune Center stood to earn $20,000 from this project now. October during the third quarter of the year when funding is extremely sparse.
The Dune Center needs your help. As I said we all know the economy is bad right now and there isn't a lot of funding out there for non-profits. Losing twenty thousand dollars at this point in the year will cause us to close our doors I'm very serious about that. And the kids that we served are the neediest in this county. I know that my time is blanking, and if...
So let me just ask if there's any questions from board members? You'll be here today in case we have more questions. Yes ma'am, I will. Thank you. Next speaker. Our
next speaker is Bob Hastie followed by Sam Cohen.
Good morning Madam Chair, members of the Board. I'd like to talk to you a bit from our letter that we've received from Dr. John Parker. Francis referenced him and his credentials. The specific parts of Dr. Parker's letter, I won't have time to read it all but I do have copies for all of you that I will submit for the record. Specifically, we'd like to draw your attention to the coastal development plan and the grading permit. Mr.
Hatch just a minute I'm sorry my time. Who is Dr. Parker? Just so I get this well what could
he be? Dr. Parker has been involved in this project. He is a registered professional archaeologist. He is the chair of the Lake County Heritage Commission And his credentials speak for themselves. They're impeccable, and his knowledge of this particular project is without peers. He understands this from start to finish. He's been involved in it all the way through going way back to when this was going to happen 20 years or so ago. So he understands it. He was able to understand the requirements for the permit and he addressed those items which I'd like to elaborate on just a bit. Coastal Development Plan and the Grading Permit were of the opinion they aren't required, despite the opinion that's been rendered. And I'd like to read from his letter, The proposed archaeological work is a sparsely funded small-scale emergency recovery plan period.
The work is designed to document and collect a small sample of cultural material from those portions of the site in immediate danger of being destroyed by dune movement. The work will involve a small team of six to eight professional archaeologists who will be on their knees using hand trowels and brushes to expose and recover small pieces of set plaster and other cultural material related to the 1923 production of the Ten Commandments.
A far cry from earth-moving equipment that perhaps would be envisioned racing up and down the dunes. All this will take place within a windblown sand that has been deposited since the 1923 filming. When the 1923 dune surface is encountered in any area, work in that area will stop. He goes on to say that very little sand will be moved as most of the threatened artifacts are not at near dune surface and certainly less than the 50 cubic yards.
The project will not create cuts or fills in excess of three feet deep due to the fact that the windblown sand deposited since 1923 is not three feet deep. Although the proposed information collection plan is exempt from CEQA and focuses on historical archaeological resource, we have taken care to make sure that no impacts to other resources will occur during the project. Our work will take place only in the open dunes avoiding areas that may contain rare plants.
No native birds or anything like that are going to be fooled around us after the plover season anyway. Since 1990, we have worked to secure the funding and permits to conduct this Emergency Information Recovery Plan. Twice, we've had the permits in hand and not been able to attain the funding. This year, we will again have the necessary permits and finally have the funding.
Knowledge about a valuable piece of California and Santa Barbara County history is at stake. Without this project, the site will continue to be looted and destroyed by national erosion. There's a small window of opportunity where you as the county representatives get to decide whether this archaeological resource is worthy of its place in history or some forgotten windblown sand. And it is signed Dr. John Parker and he's thanking you for your time and consideration.
Thank you, Dr. Bitterhoff. Any questions? Next speaker.
Our next speaker is Sam Cohen to be followed by Reagan Candelario.
Mr. Cohen, welcome.
Good morning, members of the Board of Supervisors. My name is Sam Cohen. It's a pleasure to be here. There are so many things we could talk about but today I'm here to speak with you on behalf of the Guadalupe Dunes. The San Ynez Band of Chumash support the expedited consideration of the excavation permit for the Guadalupe Dunes This is in recognition of the enormous efforts on the part of the Dune Center and the City of Guadalupe to secure this grant funding.
There are some Native American heritage sites near the movie set, and the tribe is volunteering to provide Native American monitoring services to eliminate any possible risk of impacts to Native American cultural resources. This is an important project to the city of Guadalupe and we ask for your expedited consideration if at all possible. I'd like whatever time I have left over, I've never used this little time before, to be maybe given to the director of the Guadalupe Dune Center so she could do a summation if that's possible.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Cohen. Who's next speaker?
Our next speaker is Regan Candelario to be followed by Indy Caldwell our final speaker.
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Good morning Honorable Chair and Supervisors. I'm Regan Candelario, City of Guadalupe. I've been asked by our Mayor Lupe Alvarez who unfortunately couldn't be here today he's got a significant family medical emergency out of town otherwise he wanted to present this I'll go ahead and present this now, a two page letter to the board. He asked me to read it verbatim so I know that I don't have much time. I'm going to go ahead and get started now.
Is it the Ten Commandments or is it the Planning and Development staff trying to make it 11? Honorable Chair and Supervisors, is there a conspiracy against the City of Guadalupe? I am not sure if there is but it sure feels that way, not only to me but to the many residents and business owners We are completely shocked as to what has transpired in the last year. First, we find out that the Far Western Restaurant is moving to Orcutt. Second, we lose access to Guadalupe Beach but Guadalupe residents weren't the only ones who lost access when you include Santa Maria and Orcut that is nearly 150,000 residents of North County alone not to mention the tourists. Third, out of nowhere we went from being in the fourth to the third supervisorial district Fourth and lastly, ten days ago archaeologist John Parker, Ph.D., received word from the Santa Barbara County Planning Development staff regarding a huge error on the county's part.
They made a mistake in the permitting process and created a huge problem impacting many parties who have already expended significant resources. Dr. Parker has been working diligently to prepare for the salvaging of the infamous 1923 Cecil B. DeMille Original Ten Commandments movie set on Guadalupe Beach. I may make it. To make matters worse, the permits for the project were issued by the planning and development staff back in January 2010. Ten months ago it took them ten months to discover their error and notify Dr. Parker, an error that was admitted to in writing by both the planning and development staff and CEO Chandra Waller. My community and I are literally at a loss for words what can possibly be next maybe the federal government will close our local post office who knows but What I do know is that the positive international exposure that the City of Guadalupe and the County of Santa Barbara were about to receive and benefit from many years to come is in deep jeopardy, all because the planning and development staff made a severe mistake.
However this Board of Supervisors can still have this rare opportunity but action must be taken immediately. First of all understanding that the archaeologist and his team have a very short window of time to perform their work Due to the snowy plover nesting season, which starts again on March 1st. This short work window is made even shorter because of the winter rainy season is just around the corner. This really only leaves the archaeologist and his team a few weeks to work during October and early November. Guadalupe like most cities in Santa Barbara County is hurting economically and the multiplier effect presented by this project as one of our community cannot afford to lose. This is a project that was going to give the city a much needed shot in the arm In closing, we all know that there are only 10 commandments and not 11.
Please do not let the planning and development staff create a new commandment that says thou shalt not do thy will of the P&D even if we are wrong. Supervisor Farr in the city of Guadalupe did not choose to be in the third district you chose us. In choosing us we now look to you for leadership to help us through this serious oversight by the planning and development staff.
Supervisor Farr will you please help Guadalupe in its time of need?
Thank you so much next speaker
Our final speaker is Andy Caldwell.
Madam Chair, members of the board, I'm Andy Caldwell representing Colab. I have a letter from Peter Brosnan. He was going to be the documentary filmmaker and bottom line $300,000 project has been killed. Nobody from the project was invited to meet with the county when they made this decision The other issue, of course, is the county had questions about this project. They had eight months to raise these issues but instead they did it at the 11th hour.
We believe that the reasons, the arguments for killing the project are incorrect in terms of the law and what CEQA requires and the Coastal Act etc., etc. You know, the bottom line is unless you take this up as an ex-agenda item or do something next week. This project is probably dead on arrival because of the rain. 12 people are now out of work. The Dune Center which is one of the leading nonprofits in Guadalupe may be forced to close.
A project that has been nearly 30 years in the making is derailed again. Somehow it's, you know, somebody is being asked to do hand digging to get the same permits as you would need if you're building a hotel. This isn't some giant excavation like the UNICAL cleanup this is brushes and hand shovels I don't know how that constitutes degrading to tell you the truth It's not like the site's not going to be dug up because vandals are doing that right now without any permits at all Bill Watkins, who was with the UCSB Economic Forecast Project is now with Cal Lutheran.
Has this characterization and acronym for why the California economy is in a state it's in. He calls it DIRT, Delay Uncertainty Regulations and Taxes. This project has got three of them delay uncertainty and regs. 300,000... Dirt. Yeah. Well, Sam maybe we need to think about that one. You know the film was going to be called The Lost City could be called lost opportunity or lost economy.
This is a historical project and you have to ask yourself again, you know if your staff made an error why aren't they writing a check for $300,000? How does their error become the financial disaster for the people involved in this project, including the non-profit? What are you going to do about it? Eight months. They had eight months since they issued the permit. And then the other question is what if you went with your original permit? What's gonna happen?
Thank you. Thank you Mr.
Caldwell. Is that...
We, I'm sure we have one late request to speak from George Alvarez.
Mr. Alvarez?
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Good morning supervisors and good morning to our new supervisor representing Guadalupe. You're going to have a very interesting task before you Economically speaking, we're dead in the water. If you drive by Guadalupe, a lot of rental places available because the economy's dead and it's sad because basically we were supposed to be the pearl of the Pacific near the beach and whatnot but look where we're at.
I have my understanding why we're there but I'm not here to talk about that. That's a problem on the hands of the City Council and the indebtedness that they've done in the last 10 years. That's my personal opinion Lately there's been a scuttle dealing with the farm worker issue about having them verified to make sure they're here with all full documentation. I'm for it, I'm glad the federal government is stepping in and doing its job.
Yet I see a lot of greed, a lot of putting themselves political positions that say its unfair to the agriculture community. My reliance to that, my response is bullshit. I have a disdain towards the system that has a sense of veiled slavery in my population base. If you look down at the historical aspect of it, late 60s we started getting restrooms out there before we didn't have restrooms.
In the area of health issues we have workman's comp. There is no retirement for the field worker on that yet without the Mexican population to fill the void of the demand surplus of labor It's okay to have them here undocumented. Again, that's a bunch of horse feathers. My dad came here legally during the Bracero program, programs that worked back then. But greed and posturing is not going to work. It's not going to work until they themselves, agriculture, look themselves straight in the face and say to themselves what can we do?
fairly for this population base that we need for labor purposes and be fair to that community. At the same time, be responsible step up to the plate and pay the impact fees that this corporation, this business has generated in schools, welfare whatnot. And if some people are saying God there's a Mexican pounding on Mexicans. That's not pounding on Mexicans it's the fact We have a Mexican population that's needed.
But we also have the responsibility of that community, our community stepping up and paying its fair share of the impacts that it brings. It's not fair that one organization, one business gets all the residuals. We the taxpayers have to pay with the schooling, medical and whatnot when it can be put on a business form. There's a lot of tax being made to look out for you $250 million that they make a year, not one box is taxed. Five cents apiece to help the cities, the impacts and whatnot. And it's roads and whatnot. On the issue of the...
Thank you Mr.
Alvarez. Everyone have a good day but come down to Guadalupe and enjoy yourselves.
Thank you, Mr. Alvarez. Any questions for Ms. Romero? She's here in case anyone has. Supervisor Farr, this is your district.
Thank you. Ms. Romero if you would come back to the podium for a moment. I just wanted to ask a couple of questions and then I want to make a couple comments. First of all, how I first got involved in this issue or first learned about it was to do with whether we had done what we needed to do as far as the impact to prehistoric resources from the Native American community from the Chumash.
And so there was going to be meetings with that, and our staff wanted to make sure that you and your people had met with them because they were gonna have to make sure that that was taken care of. So could you give me a status update with that? And perhaps Mr. Cohen if he has some comments or might want to make them as well.
Well, basically Mayor Alvarez met with Mr. Cohen on our behalf and at that time they had a discussion about providing monitors because the project in all honesty did not foresee the need for monitors because it is a non-federal site. It is not a prehistoric site and we had an exempted permit. Dr. Parker as Bob Hatch relayed has impeccable credentials in dealing with Native communities for over 40 years, and he's actually brought lawsuits against people that have done bad things to Native Americans. So we had every confidence when we submitted our work plan that there wasn't even a monitoring issue. When the Chumash tribe requested a formal consultation, and I believe that request was made of Dr.
Russell, again some of the things that have happened I've not even been Involved in or privy to. I believe that's when the question about the permit came up. In all honesty, Mayor Alvarez within about 24 hours had talked with the tribe. The tribe indicated that they would provide the monitoring but at that point the team had already been told to stand down and all arrangements were immediately canceled to limit the financial exposure that this project has so You heard Mr. Cohen, I mean they They're supporting the project, they're providing a monitor. I don't know that there's really an issue any longer.
Okay well that's something that I wanted to make sure of and also when we spoke one time there seemed to be some discrepancy between the way the county had those sites prehistoric sites mapped and the way Dr. Parker had them but you said Dr. Parker was the one that actually discovered them so has that been remedied as far as the maps being different?
That's something that I've not really heard addressed by staff, but I dare to say that if the archaeologist who discovered this site and recorded this site has the site on his map. I don't really know that staff was fully informed or that they really looked at the maps because I would have to go with the guy that found it I, you know, I just that I don't really know. Unfortunately in the whole scheme of the email things that start spinning up out there something gets put in an email and then all of a sudden it's a fact and in all reality I don' believe that was ever a factually based
assertion. You know, maybe Mr. Russell has an answer to that one. Well
I think actually before that but I want to ask Mr. Cohen directly but before I have Ms. Francis leave the podium my understanding is is that well there's for the rest of the board you know there has been a lot of discussion internally between county departments between Miss Francis and On this issue with and also with the mayor and my understanding Miss Waller was that you were trying to pull together a meeting after today's hearing. Is that going to happen?
Chairwoman Supervisor, I did speak with several individuals last night and I can say from the county's perspective we have our folks here today and would certainly like to have a face-to-face meeting. I think that would be the best way to expedite, the best way to exchange questions and information so we have folks that are literally on their way up right now that could need
Ms. Romero, can you meet today with staff?
We certainly can and sadly we would have hoped that this would have happened two weeks ago today when the initial question was brought up. But the answer is yes. Yes ma'am
it is.
Council you had your
hand raised. I need to remind the board that this is a non-agendized item And we're limited just to very brief questions and comments. There is a process to add it to the agenda if your board wishes to take any action, I'm not sure that we have sufficient facts to make the findings of an emergency but I do need to alert the board that our discussion capability is very limited under the Brown Act
Okay, thank you. And then Mr. Cohen I just want to make sure that the tribe is comfortable where we are now as far as what would be required of this project to meet the notification and monitoring requirements?
Yes, Madam Chair, Supervisor Farr. This inquiry came from some of our tribal residents who live in Guadalupe and it came through a tribal staff and they made the inquiry of planning and development. I don't think we ever were in an objection situation. We were kind of just inquiring as to the process that this project was going through. Since that time, we've met with the mayor of Guadalupe, resolved our issues And we're in a position to volunteer the services of Native American monitors to completely take that issue off the table.
Thank you very much, I appreciate that and Madam Chair before we leave this item I just wanted to say You know, once it came to my attention I have been working very closely with staff with Ms. Romero and spoken and communicated with the mayor a number of times. I mean this is clearly a really important project for the county but even more so particularly for the community of Guadalupe as I know that you know and also really has such an impact on the Dune Center and the wonderful work that they do So I have to say that I am quite disappointed in what's happened here with county staff. There obviously was a very serious lack of communication and miscommunication With them and the public, and also I think between departments. So with that being said, I think that staff has been working very hard to rectify the situation.
And including the involvement of the CEO now. And we're working hard to make it happen as quickly as possible. So I'll look forward to this meeting that's going to happen today. Thank
you. Ms. Waller, you'll hold a meeting today with these folks. And then let's put it back on the agenda next week so we can know what happened. Just a report.
Yes, Chairwoman we certainly can do that and I probably while you're hearing your next item will slip away and see if we can get this meeting all set up for today.
Thank you Ms. Romero appreciate it very much. Why don't you work with Ms. Waller? Yeah, thank you. And I actually have one more public comment. I don't know if it's a public comment but I looked in the Santa Barbara news press the other day there was a list of all the people that owe the County of Santa Barbara money some in the hundreds of thousands. Can you get a copy? Your name is not on here supervisor so...
What I, what I asked was how do we go about collecting and how aggressive are we at collecting because there's lots of money on here. So I'd like to ask that it go on the agenda for next week and this is a very short agenda. That Mr. Hagen would come in and tell us how to, what they do and so on?
Chairwoman, members of the board I think that's an excellent idea and we will schedule Mr. Hagen or one of his folks to come in and walk us through the process not only for how people get to the point that they get themselves in the newspaper but better yet how we actually resolve those issues. So yes we'll certainly dock at that.
I really look forward to that because we've not had this issue that I recalled before and so now it's kind of a new learning experience. As we said, we're learning how to manage downsizing not have managed growth anymore. Any other public comment Mr. Allen?
No Madam Chair.
All right it appears that we're ready then to commence the departmental agenda. Item 1 Mr. Allen
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Madam Chair, item number one is from the Public Works Department and comes to the board as the Board of Directors of Laguna County Sanitation District. It's a hearing to receive and file a presentation on Laguna County Sanitation District Wastewater Recognition Plant Facilities and Financial Master Plan.
Mr. Schleyer? And consultant.
Good morning chair, members of the board. Today we have two items regarding Laguna. This is the first one on the master plan. We're talking about some of the longer range issues and challenges that we have at the Laguna Wastewater Treatment Plant. Next slide please, Marty. This is an old plant that was built in 1959 and think of it as a lot of the appliances we all had in 1959. We don't have many of those anymore. Do
you want to bet? I have my same old washboard.
There's always the exception to the rule.
Thank you Mark.
We have done upgrades over time I'm really from regulatory concerns. But we're still dealing with a very old facility. Our master plan is not uncommon to what's going on in other areas. The city of Lompoc just spent $94 million upgrading their plant. City of Goleta has spent about $28 million and that's just in our community, I think that's pretty much a statewide concern To address this issue, we had to define what our needs were and that's what we did. We had to comply with regulatory compliance and we also recognized the need to bring in some expertise and that's where CH2M Hill was selected through the process of an RFP process.
Today we have Mary Borosis of CH2Hill to provide a summary of the process we went through And the outcomes and recommendations that came out of that process. So at this point, I'd like to turn over the presentation to Mary Firosis.
Is this on? Can you hear me? Okay. Thank you very much. To put this facilities plan together, you can see it's a very large volume here. I'm going to quickly go through the process that we did and what we came up with with recommendations but we had to look at your facilities first and foremost assess the condition and performance of existing facilities. We looked at what the future regulatory requirements might be on your facility. We took a look at the district service and growth rates And we had to define based on that what the future wastewater flows and loads might be. And then evaluate different treatment and discharge options for that. And from that, we developed an implementation plan for plant upgrades over the next few years. And we also took a look at your user charges and developed a rate system so that you can be able to collect charges and fees to be able to pay for the cost of these things.
Right now you've got a treatment plant that's rated. It has a plant capacity of 3.7 million gallons a day, 3.2 is for the low salt flow stream, .5 for the high salt treatment. Ultimately looking at the growth in the area we're looking at a 5 million gallon per day plant that you would need here. We don't see a growth in the salt area but we do see in the low-salt flow stream 4.5 million as a future flow capacity.
So we did an assessment of the existing condition and capacity of your treatment facilities. So condition is just looking at, you know, what these old things look like? Are they rusting out? How is the equipment functioning? And then we also did a performance evaluation where we looked at the treatment processes and said are they doing what they're supposed to do? Are they taking care of the pollutants the way they were intended to?
And there's really three areas that we looked at. Your main plant process, you have a salt reduction process in your plant and then you also have processes that deal with the solids that we take out when we treat wastewater. This slide here shows some of the things we found in the condition assessment. It's a little hard to see up here in the light but if you look closely you'll see some of the corroding that's occurring on some of the older equipment Yeah, yeah there you can see it a little better.
But these are just some of the shots I mean the plan goes into more detail on what some of the things are but if you look at the bottom row that middle thing you can see cracks in the concrete that's on your trickling filter which is your main treatment process and then you'll also see some of the old equipment is rusted out and in pretty poor condition just from a conditions assessment Then we looked at the performance of the plant. How is it performing? And really you have been meeting your effluent limits, but there are the units... It's a very complex process. The units that I targeted in yellow are really your oldest treatment units and those were built sometime in the late 1950s and those are units where we saw most of the impact in terms of what was happening with performance and whether or not they could continue with the future flows and loads that you might see.
So in order to look at what you needed to do to upgrade, we did a short listing of alternatives. And the first step we took is we looked at the different benefits from different alternatives and we kind of looked at operational environmental and constructability benefits from the different things. And then we identified a scoring system for these different benefits that you would have from different treatment options.
There's really three areas again I we looked at the secondary treatment how you treat it Tertiary treatment, which is really filtering. There's all different types of filtering equipment you can use and then what do you do with the solids? There's different ways you can treat that and based on that we came up with 16 different combinations of treatment plant options And we said okay now We've got to narrow this field of 16 down into which are the most reasonable for Laguna County And we did that by looking not just at the benefits that these different alternatives provide, but also at their costs. And that's not capital, it's capital and life cycle cost. And from that we were able to make some recommendations. This is just kind of an example of the benefit screening process that we did.
These are secondary treatment processes. And what we have is we have operability, constructability, environmental, and we kinda stacked them up and gave them scores Based on, you know different criteria. So for example in environmental we had a bunch of different criteria things like greenhouse gas emissions how well does it meet the future regulations? Things like that.
If you go to the next slide so after we did this ranking We looked at the life cycle costs of these different alternatives, and then we identified which were the three top alternatives that we should dive into a little bit further in terms of planning. And we worked with your staff, the staff at the Laguna County Wastewater Treatment Plant and Marty Wilder here to come up with which we thought would be the best to analyze. And what would be the most cost effective alternative to meet your current and future needs?
And we ended up looking at doing an activated sludge basin as your main treatment with rectangular clarifiers that ultimately could be turned into a membrane bioreactor, which is a more state of the art technology. But and we'll talk a little bit more. We talked about phasing this in because you're not seeing the growth rate at the rate that you know to be able to accommodate that full expansion.
So we really did two phases. So we said, okay here's what it costs to upgrade your plant now let's see how we can phase this to make sense. And so we gave priority to processes that were at their useful service life, processes that can handle your current loads but not reliably in the future and then processes that you have that don't have redundancy. So if something happens to it and you have to take it out you haven't got a redundant union. You've got some of those processes out there And then looking at that, we came up with a phase one of building this that came to a cost of about $34.8 million and looking at our graph and when you would want to start planning for that, we thought you'd want us to at least start planning in the year 2014 if not sooner for that first phase of upgrades.
And then phase two is really adding capacity for that future growth. And that really is a $23.2 million cost, but when you would initiate planning for that it's going to depend on how fast our sluggish economy starts moving and when you start seeing development then you can start looking at a date for that. It was hard to target a date to do something for future growth not knowing where the economy is going.
Madam Chair?
Supervisor Wolff?
Before we get too far into this, I just have a question on your phasing. At the beginning you mentioned the oldest treatment units. You had marked them in yellow. So does... Do any of these phases as you're going through them address those particular units for replacement? Yes. Phase 1 would replace
those units.
Okay thank you.
And that's one, two, three, four or five units that I see in the yellow.
Yeah pretty much. I mean you know when you yeah you can go back but yes it would replace those units with something that's more robust so it would replace the trickling filters and primary clarifiers and then the secondary clarifiers with activated sludge basins activated sludge a different type of treatment plant and then the head works that's where you bring all your wastewater together and you do all your grit removal is also a very old facility that we'd need to replace. And in part because when you're doing construction, you have to keep this plant online so we've got to build parallel to the existing plant before we switch the flow over. So that's another reason why that Headworks facility really has to be a new facility.
And in connection with, thank you Supervisor Wolf I'm glad you asked. The rusted stuff that you showed that we have the pictures are those the ones that are in yellow?
They're parts of some of the things that are in yellow yeah. I mean I just grabbed some random pictures the report does more detail on it but a lot of them are pieces of the head works facility. The one like I said with the cracks is your main treatment unit your trickling filter so yeah they're parts of those old facilities. Thank you Okay, and then the last thing we did as part of this report was help you develop a rate model. We put together an Excel spreadsheet that Laguna County can use to be able to set up their rates. They plug in their capital cost information and then they can assess where they need to be on their rates to be able to afford these phases of expansion.
And for Phase 1, you're looking at monthly user charges because Phase 1 really isn't adding capacity. It's upgrading what you have. It is not related to the growth and you can see that you show a 7%, 11% and 12% rate increase over the next few years to be able to accomplish that and to be able to collect some money so you can afford that. And then also this rate program was enabled you to put together a little connection fee structure so that when development starts You can start charging connection fees and start collecting money so that you're able to afford the second part of the phasing, which is mostly related to that.
So in conclusion, you know, the plan is complete. It's a very big document but it's something that you have here and really that's the next thing now is for you to look at the plan and then direct the staff to go ahead and continue with implementation on that route that we've selected in the plan. Any questions?
Supervisor Farr. Thank you Madam Chair. Staff, what is the service area for Laguna Sanitation? Is it just in the unincorporated area of the County of Orca or does it take in any of the City of Santa Maria?
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Madam Chair, Supervisor Farr. With the new district boundaries there is a very small area that's in the 5th District. Primarily all of the service territory is in the 4th District with the unincorporated area to the west in the 3rd District including the plant area The only really developed area in the third district is Tanglewood housing development.
Well, the reason I'm asking is that it's... I guess I'm not clear on something here that talks about your existing plant capacity at 3.7 million gallons per day. So of that how much are you using right now?
To answer your question regarding the city, Madam Chair, Supervisor Favre, very little is from the city. Primarily the locations where the county offices and Foster Road are in the city limits in addition to the airport.
Okay. And then as far as the existing plant capacity at 3.7 million how much of that is being used right now?
I beg your pardon. The flow from the city is rather small I'm trying to recall.
Just what about overall?
I'm sorry. Chair, Greg, members of the board. The plant's capacity is 3.7. On a daily basis we average about 2.1 million gallons per day.
Okay so
you've
still got quite a bit of capacity.
Except with the following caveat whatever comes in must leave the site In our disposal capacity, what we do with the effluent is pretty much limited at the 2.1 level right now. So a lot of these plant upgrades in addition to bringing them up to current functionality has to deal with regulations of discharging the effluent to various off-site users.
And is that part of phase one then?
Yes it is. So you
can maximize existing capacity.
The goal of phase one is to make the inflow capacity match the outflow capacity of 3.7 million gallons per day.
And then, you know, Supervisor Gray would certainly know much better than I but it seems to me that there's still quite a bit of unbuilt capacity in the existing Orchid Community Plan. Either projects that haven't been approved or projects like Rice Ranch which are very large which were approved but haven't been built out. So I guess my, the reason I'm asking my concern is that we saw this in Goleta. That depending on the economy you know there was a real lull there after the community plan was approved and then all of a sudden when the economy got better and there's a lot of capital money out there All of a sudden these projects started coming in and I'm just wondering whether we're going to have, be able to respond quickly enough. And that was why I asked about the service area as well because I know that the City of Santa Maria also has plans to build out certain areas and I'm not really sure whether this is part of the area where the proposed North County Jail is and the timing of that so I guess I'm just kind of worried about timing and overall capacity.
Thank you.
Thank you, Supervisor. Did you get all your questions asked? Answered? Okay. Any other questions? I have a... Supervisor Wolff?
Yes, on the connection fee structure for Phase 2 my question is Is there a connection fee structure right now in place for new development or is this something that's new?
Chair Gray, members of the board. Yes there is one. I believe it's right around $4900 per connection and historically we've indexed that to a construction cost index out of Los Angeles so this would be an increase over that index to a new baseline based on the needs of the plant based on this plan you have before you today
Okay, and then I guess just a follow-up to that. If you were to increase the fee structure which it would look like it's about $1,000 for phase one that would lower presumably the charge to the rate payers and I was wondering if you looked at that? Would it be a significant decrease or... I'm just wondering why you didn't include the increasing connection fee for phase one
Chair Grave, members of the board. It's a challenge to anticipate development and the revenue from development. So I think in order for us to get... And this project will need that service to be built. So I think the way we structured it was on reliable income, which ends up being borne by the current rate payers because we can't count on future development.
However...
Good answer.
That makes total sense to me. Thank you. Okay. Thank you.
Thank you. Other questions? Do we have public comment, Mr.
Allen? One request to speak from Lori Tamura.
Ms. Tamura? Welcome.
Good morning, Lori Tamora and I'm here first of all to commend the staff of Laguna County Sanitation and Public Works. I think since Marty's been on board and the team behind him and above him it has been very successfully managed and very creatively managed for the residents of Orkut And so want to make sure that the community knows that they're in good hands in regards to Laguna County Sanitation District. Just in response to a couple of questions that Supervisor Farr had, the Orchid Community Planning area is 11,000 homes.
The Orchid plan anticipated in the first phase 3,000 homes. About 1,000 of those have been built since 97. So we have about 2,000 more homes potentially in inventory. I think only about 500 more are approved units. And then there's Keysight 22, which was the next generation but we could not even file for applications on that until 2017. And since then it has become Tiger Salamander Habitat Hotel and it is very doubtful that much of that area will be available for development as we move towards that time frame And then of course, we've had a devastating recession and most of the housing has come to a standstill. So I think in regards to reviewing the plan that is being presented to you and the financial program that they brought forward, I think it's reasonable for the community.
I would like to add one note though We don't pay, and we because I am a resident of Orchid. We don't pay our sewer bill on a monthly or bimonthly basis. We pay it as part of our tax bill. And that is an, as this incremental fee increases right now, I just looked at my tax bill the other day, it's $590 added onto my tax bill. So that's an added hit during two months of the year.
As this incrementally goes out, it's almost $100 a month that'll go up to in about 2019 somewhere around there. That's $1,200 added to the tax bill. That's going to be a big hit for people if they don't plan for it. So the only thing I would suggest is maybe at a different time That Laguna County Sanitation looks at a monthly billing or some other way to deal with the payment program. And that's the same...
Hang on a minute, I think that's incredibly important. We've got to go there because that is amazing when you look at your tax bill and you've lived there a long time and your biggest bill is the Laguna Sand.
Yeah so just a suggestion and again because I saw how these numbers were going to be extending out that it's gonna in some places be more than your tax bill.
And hang on just a minute, Ms. Waller you wanted to say something?
I was just going to note Chair that certainly understand that concern and the original reason that was done obviously many many years ago was to try to save administrative costs for the district and also to be less burdensome on the customers but certainly with the rising cost I can understand why a more frequent billing and we'll work with the stakeholders to determine what the appropriate is maybe it's monthly maybe its quarterly But work with those groups to
decide what's best. Right on the trash pickup we get every two months and that works pretty well. The other question I wanted to ask you is, I know you know the key sites but you know I'm still... Is 22 the one where it was a wetland and there was a lawsuit? With the Adam family, is that
right? Yeah, it's 1,000 acres across the street from Rancho Mirga of course and it goes along Black Road and Highway One As SUTIs owned a piece of property, Rafonees, Mahoney, Adams. And at one point it was planned for between 2 and 3 thousand units. It was analyzed at that level in the EIR you know for the Orchard Community Plant. There was a lawsuit by the Environmental Defense Center in regards to that build out of that area and the settlement was to defer that particular planning area until 2017. So what the intent was to encourage infill before you go into, you know, Greenfield area.
But again since 97 the Tiger salamander has been listed and there's probably at least 500 acres of that thousand that are prime tiger salamander habitat.
Any
other questions? Thank you.
My comment, thank you Madam Chair, my comment is that I just hope that we, not only on the billing but a lot of times customers they need to be educated on you know no one wants to cares about what the sanitation district does. But when you see your bill go up you start letting your voice be known so i think it'd be money well spent that we get out and do a little bit of education so that folks know And I'm sure that's, I'm hoping that's part of the plan.
And a lot of times you know, I get stuff in my bill with the city and I am a city resident so I get things in there from the water. I chucked that stuff to be honest with you. You look at your bill, look at the number okay great you pay it. I don't want to see all this stuff that's inside of us. I don't know if its on county television maybe we can do something but You know, look for innovative ways to let the folks know that you know people don't mind sometimes a little bit extra if they feel like they're getting something for it. And if this way we understand we're doing something that's been put off for 20 years that maybe we won't have as much heartache.
Thank you supervisor I agree and I'm trying to figure out It just doesn't seem like the lead story for the top of the newspaper. Sanitation district is really old and needs to upgrade But you could try,
Mark.
So I don't know how you do that but we'll try. Any other
questions?
It's a pretty nice place when it's not windy. We need a motion, I believe. That was really a very well done report. Thank you Ms. Parks. Very good. I mean, I sort of understood it and this is engineering and you know it's all the things about out-of-sight out-of mind blah blah but it was...I learned a lot. Thank you. Is there a second? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Thank you. You guys alright? You want to go to the next one and then take a break?
Alright. Item number two
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Madam Chair, members of the board. Item two is from Public Works. Once again this comes to the Board as the Board of Directors of Laguna County Sanitation District. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a Laguna County Sanitation District ordinance amending Chapter 29 of the Santa Barbara County Code regarding a water softener control ordinance and water softener exchange program.
Mr. McLaughlin?
Yes, good morning Madam Chair and Board Members. This is the second of two items this morning on Laguna Sanitation on your agenda and as the Clerk mentioned we're here today to amend Chapter 29 specifically with regards to water softener control ordinances. We'll also, as we go through the presentation...
I just have to interrupt again because this is Mr. Fairam's picture.
It
shows up everywhere. It shows up everywhere. And so, I think it should become our county picture. The
first time it was shown somewhere didn't get the appropriate credit. So now we have to keep running. Right. Yeah.
Sorry to interrupt.
Where do you see the photos in this presentation? Oh, I can't. I'm sure they're
great.
But as we go through the proposed amendment to Chapter 29, we're also going to talk a bit about our water softener exchange program and really these are two very proactive steps we could take as a county to reduce our overall chloride levels in our effluent at the plant and as a county if we did not address these levels at some point the Water Board We'll come forward and require that we make some improvements to the plant, costly improvements if you will. That would be directly borne by the rate payers so our hope is that today's item would set us on a course to avoid that scenario. A bit of housekeeping before we do get started Our board letter in the subject area was technically correct with regards to districts before your board changed the districts.
It showed fourth and fifth, but the third district is now part of that particular district and I believe on our last item D1 we showed the fourth supervisorial district. The plant is now actually in the third supervisorial district so I wanted to get that on the record. Let
me hand that over to you.
Welcome, Supervisor
Gray.
So at this point I will turn the presentation over to Laguna Sanitation Manager Marty Wilder.
Thank you. Basically, the water softener ordinance is designed to address a certain issue. Santa Maria Valley groundwater supply is very hard and has a lot of calcium, magnesium salts etc. Regenerating water softeners add a tremendous salt load to the treatment plant. The excess salt in the groundwater then further affects the water quality and viability of its use including farmland.
The Water Board regulates water through the basin plan that it adopted in 1989.
Mr. Wilder, I'm going to because I am so ignorant about this stuff move you back to regenerating water softeners and that's the kind where you go by the salt and you guys explain it because I was asking Scott what I could do and I said I get these canisters every month and he said you're doing the right thing but could you just tell us the difference?
Supervisor, Madam Chair. Yes basically there are multiple or a variety of ways to treat your water for making it usable at your house or business. Primarily softening is what's done which generally exchanges the hard minerals Thank you. The
canister
exchange is a very similar process, however the companies provide you the canister where the regeneration is done. There's no discharge to the sewer system. Those canisters are collected by collagen and rain and they regenerate it back at their own plant and then the salt is discharged a different way not to the sewer system.
Thank you. I just am embarrassed about my ignorance, but it's there.
Madam
Chair,
Mr. Wilder that last thing that you said, that was my question. So the big companies that do this then what do they do with the salt? Because it has to go someplace sometime. So just because it doesn't go right here where does it go?
Madam Chair, Supervisor Farr, that is correct. Rain and Colligan are the major companies in this area. The salt that they generate goes either to a wastewater plant where there's an ocean outfall or in our case we are permitted through the EPA to take their waste and discharge it into our injection well so that doesn't go through wastewater plant and is permanently removed from the water stream.
Yeah but if you put it in an injection well isn't going back to the groundwater again?
Madam Chair and Supervisors, actually in our case it's disposed of. It's a mile deep. The underground source of drinking water is at 2,000 feet in the vicinity of our injection well or disposal well. The depth of discharges is at 5400 feet.
Madam Chair, Supervisors understand your question salt to salt right? It's kind of like The analogy of recycling. We have source-separated recycling, right? We pull the recyclables out and we bypass a process. In the case of the regenerative ones it dumps it into the sewer. We then have to treat it in these canisters that never gets into the sewer. We still need to dispose of it and it ends up at the same spot but it bypasses the plant therefore bypasses a lot of costly effort on our behalf
But from an environmental standpoint,
I'm trying to figure
out how we're improving
it. The well and the salt concentration that we dispose of which is miles deep is actually less salty than the ocean.
Okay.
If I could...
So it's not our problem and we don't have to pay the, you know. And it's being disposed of in a way that is less impactful to the water and to the environment.
That's great. Basically the salt at that depth is like the ocean and we're discharging salt that's not even that salty. So, regulatorily the Regional Board then further regulates the district in its effluent disposal and primarily salt. The salt content has been a challenge since the Basin Plan was adopted as you can imagine we were happy going along with what we were doing until new regulations came into play.
The first attempt to address the issue was a water softener program which Disallow the use of regenerating wash softeners. To address that concern in 2001, we did a plant upgrade which removed salt at the plant treatment level. We're doing well with those respects except we still have one issue with respect to chloride as you can see in the graph on the left our limit is set at 150 but were still slightly over Our strategy to address it is to allow only non-regenerating water softener, again that's the canister exchange type.
We propose to do this in new development. This kind of folds into our master plan where we don't want to add to the plant new salt removing processes, we just kind of want to hold steady. To address current water softening that's used in the district territory, we want to offer an incentive program to the customers out there who are still using regenerating water softeners. Basically will provide an incentive or a rebate so that they will be encouraged to use the canister exchange instead. We plan to measure the results over a period of time and we intend to avoid additional costly upgrades and more restrictive controls.
Therefore, the proposed ordinance basically will amend the one that was established prior. That's written into Chapter 29 of the County Code. It will allow only non-regenerating water softeners such as canisters, exchanges which we're really preferring to all other mechanisms out there to further condition but don't necessarily soften it. The second reading of the ordinance is proposed for November 1st with effective date in January 1st.
Therefore, we propose adoption or to amending the current ordinance to put this into practice.
And Madam Chair and Board Members in closing before we get to questions County Council has a statement to make.
Council?
Thank you. This item is set up as if the Board of Directors for Laguna County Sanitary and Sanitation District will approve the ordinance but technically it will be the Board of Supervisors approving the recommended Ordinance, so I think the minutes should reflect that the board supervisors will be making this Amendment to the county code rather than the sanitation district. That's a really a small technicality But the record should reflect that it's the board not the district making the amendment to the county code
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Madam chair, I just have a comment is actually based on my personal experience Actually have one of the bad water softeners in my house. I'll have to Admit to that. However, I had somebody come out to find out about getting the canister service and it was one of the major names and he said you don't want to get rid of this if you get rid of this you could never get it back And so I guess there needs to be a lot of really good work done with the water softener companies, because I think some of them have independent contractors or franchisees that go out. They're not kind of monolithic and you're going to want to make sure that the right message is going out no matter who is carrying it.
And and so they're gonna have to do a lot of good internal work at these companies to make sure That when their people go out that they're saying the right things.
That's fascinating, Supervisor. Wow! Learn something every day. Any other questions? We do have any public speakers? All right, we need a motion. Is there a second? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Thank you very much. Let's take 10 minutes. We'll be back at 1030. You guys know where the big head is going to be
Thank you. He had a woman, he had a boy, and everyone was all over him.
You. You. you You. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. You. This is outside.
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And we're going to be doing item number three through eight. And it's going to be presented by Florence Trotter, senior planner. Yes please do. Are you gonna read all eight of them? No. Okay.
Madam Chair, Members of the Board, Item 3 is for Planning and Development. It's a hearing to consider the National Appeal of the Zoning Administrator's Approval of 09C0C0000000345678 And this is located approximately one-half mile southeast of the intersection of Tepeskaya Road and existing unnamed jeep road in the Tepeskaya area in the 5th district. Collectively these appeals are referenced on the board's agenda as items D3 through D8.
Thank you, and just so that everyone knows how this is laid out Staff presentation is seven minutes, applicant appellant is 15. If there's any public comment we'll take that and there's a rebuttal in the amount of 15 minutes for the attorney representing the Toomey Trust and then staff comments 15 minutes and board decision. Is that right Florence? Chair Gray that would
be
correct. Okay let's go ahead then.
Good morning Chair Gray, members of the board. The project before you is the appeal of six conditional certificates of compliance. The property is located off of Tippis Gate Canyon via private roads so the road up to your almost up to the ridge and then you would go off onto unpaved roads to access this particular 862 Anchor parcel. As we move through the PowerPoint presentation, I do have some colored photos that will clearly show some roads that are on this site.
If you've ever traveled Colson Canyon, the road is about the same a little steeper but the roads through these properties will accurately depict what we have out there for traveling onto the site.
Is it North of Colson Canyon Road or? It would be north
of Colson Canyon.
Yeah, so we pass Colson Canyon and then...
Correct.
Okay.
This shows the property with the six conditional certificates of compliance which were approved by the zoning administrator on June 6, 2011. The outline of this property shows the original 862-acre parcel. The inside lines, of course, show how the property was divided with the proposed conditional certificates of compliance. The appeals were filed due to a condition of approval on the conditional certificates of compliance that required all underlying parcels associated with this certificate of compliance be merged back to the original 862 acre parcel.
This shows what I've done is outline the 862 acre parcel in black, the underlying parcels in red. Appeal issues associated... The first appeal issue that the appellant disagreed with was the condition of approval to merge The required underlying parcels back to the original 862 acre parcel. The appellant has indicated that per government code 66451.10a, that the county does not have the ability to require the merger of parcels due to the fact that they are contiguous.
Because the property has been illegally subdivided back as far as the early 70s when it was originally purchased by Mr. Toomey, they have no legal rights to the new interior boundaries only to the exterior boundary which is in the black. In addition to that, four formal violations were filed on the 862-acre parcel back on January 17th 1974. In the 80s Mr. Toomey continued to subdivide it and that gave us the underlying six parcels which again should have been in compliance with the Subdivision Map Act On October 26, 2010 the agent of record at that time Justin Hite did receive a letter from the county indicating that we would move forward with the conditional certificates compliance provided a merger would take place to go back to the original 862 acre parcel.
Again, any future subdivisions of this parcel would need to be accomplished through the Subdivision Map Act process which would require a track map and we would look at access, utilities topography, environmental constraints, survey discrepancies improvements and building envelopes just based on the topography of this land out there. This was the original 862-acre parcel. It's a fairly clear picture, so you can see what it looked like previous to that. So I just wanted to get a feel for the original property boundaries back in early 1970s and when the county filed four formal violations of notice that this was an illegally created lot.
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Go ahead. The 862 wasn't illegally created lot? No.
Yes.
Yes, it was.
OK. Thanks. And again then after the creation of that which was not created by Mr. Toomey then in the early 80's he continued to further subdivide it to get these underlying six parcels Which the certificates of conditional certificates compliance were applied for. The second issue raised or appeal issue arised by the demand for the merger and the appellant agent makes an argument opposing the condition...
Supervisor Wolf? I'm sorry to interrupt, I'm just a little confused but from this map I see the six parcels and I'm not clear what The
map that you're holding in your hand shows what the conditional certificates of compliance were approved for at the zoning administrator on June 6. This map shows the actual parcel numbers and so what occurred as part of the process for the conditional use permits Portions of different parcels were part of each conditional certificate of compliance. So, let's for example...
Let me look at my condition here. For example on the first one which was 09-COC3 it was parcel number 13109076 and a portion of 78 so even though we have... Wait
a minute Forrest point to it so we can see what you're talking about Oh, it's all. It's what are we looking at
the top? OK. The very top parcel.
OK.
Seventy six.
Got it.
And then the parcel. So you see the very top of that and then the parcel right underneath it in the red. The first parcel is 78. Mm hmm. The original certificate The first Certificate of Compliance only included a portion of this. So each Certificate of Compliance wasn't just, in this instance it wasn't just parcel 76. It was all of 76 and then maybe half of 78.
So each certificate of compliance that we processed was not a full parcel. It was a parcel and maybe a portion of a parcel, so that's why the map that you... The first map that you saw that showed the breakdown of the actual boundary lines for the conditional certificates of compliance is different than this map. I wanted to kind of outline the actual property boundaries in this map here. Okay,
thank you very much. Supervisor Farr? Thank you Madam Chair. Just so I understand the chronology here The original 862 acres was illegally created. However, we now have to honor that because you said they have no legal rights to the interior boundaries but to the exterior boundary. So even though that original 862 acre parcel was not created correctly, we are bound to hold that exterior boundary okay at this point in time?
Do
you understand what I'm
saying? Yes, I understand what you're saying.
We are not bound to it. The zoning administrator made a decision that is a matter of equity, 37 years after Mr. Toomey got that parcel, we shouldn't hold him liable to merge with outside properties. This is the extent of his ownership so as a matter of equity they said okay we'll deal with this H62 and it's just what he owns not the illegal parcels that extended outside of that boundaries also.
Okay I understand that thank you Mr. Reddy. And then the owner went ahead and carved up these These parcels. The red ones? The red ones, but then when it went to the zoning administrator, the zoning administrator made a decision to give them the same number of parcels assuming the merger, but then the creation of the parcels looked like this rather than like what the owner had done earlier with various size parcels Is that correct? Supervisor Farr, that is correct. Okay and so now what is happening is the owner is appealing that because they don't like that condition that we have to... That he has to merge them in order to get these.
What would happen is the merger is requiring him to merge all the underlying parcels back to the original 862 acre configuration. So even though we process the conditional certificates of compliance, every parcel that's involved 76 78 82 83 80 and 84 are all required to become They go away basically. Their underlying parcels are going to go, their lines are going to go away and what you're gonna see then would be a parcel like this. That's what we will have if all of the parcels are merged back into the original configuration of the 1970 acre.
Okay so where does this come from then? What is this doing? This one. Okay, got
it. That map is from the conditional certificates of compliance that were processed and approved by the zoning administrator back in June. So this accurately depicts the maps that they submitted for approval at each conditional certificate of compliance.
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Okay, I guess I am still kind of confused because I don't know whether we're working with this or whether we're working with the whole piece with no interior lines.
Madam
Chair?
Mr. Toomey received this in multiple little illegal pieces. He then proceeded to re-subdivide it over a period 13 years until 1985-86 in multiple ways. The red line version you saw up here is merely the APN, the assessor's parcel, the way the assessor looked at it after all these various intermediate divisions. That's this year, that's just the assessors parcels numbers. That's how the assessor looked at it, that's the way the county got this when it first came in for the CC applications The six parcels that we're dealing with today are merely the last iteration of his illegal divisions. Those are the things like 1986?
Roughly 1985.
1985, he divided it one last time giving it to his own personal trust those six parcels in this configuration so we looked at it with all the confusing boundary lines and illegal divisions We decided to use the case of people in the state of California versus Tehama, which says the most recent intent of the subdivider shall hold and will merge all the underlying parcels. So to make it easy we said this is what we've got let's deal with the CCs based upon this.
Okay thank you Madam Chair.
That's very helpful. They don't like the idea that we're merging it back together to the original. Do they
like this one?
They want this one and we say, This is illegal also.
Okay got it. Florence you ready to go on? Can I just... Excuse me I did see your light.
One of the conditions is so that, as Mr. Reddy said they have to go through the merger and then it would seem that the next step then isn't... Then they could have this. Is that right? That they have to go through the process of a merger first because that's a condition set by the zoning administrator? And then they can move forward?
The condition is an alternate. There are two things they can do based upon the zoning administrator's decision. They can either merge it back to the original 862 Or they can come in and subdivide it correctly under the law, and get whatever number they want. If they want six, they can ask for six, and we can decide whether that's a proper subdivision. So they have two alternatives under the conditions. Only one of them is merging so we're not requiring to merge. We're saying if you want your six parcels, come in and do it right. Get a proper survey, get environmental analysis, get all the things you would get in a normal track.
Well, the way I'm reading the condition it says prior to any future development on the proposed project site. The applicant shall complete a voluntary merger. So it sounds like they have... You just gave me two options but it sounds like they have to do this one. They could
also
subdivide. They could just come in and ask for a new subdivision. Therein lies the confusion, I think Mr. Reddy. We don't understand What you say they could. So what you're telling us to do today and don't think that I'm probably right here, but what you are telling us to do today is the 862 is we've got to go back, it has to be 862 and then later on next week if the TUME folks want to divide or subdivide then they do it under the subdivision map.
Okay, that makes sense. That's what I was trying to get at. So why wouldn't they want to do that? Is there a problem in doing that because they would ultimately get what they want is it... What's...
They don't want to have to go through the legal process to get subdivision maps. They want it right now on the new legal law.
Madam Chair. Supervisor Clark? And I think just to follow up with what Supervisor Wolf said, I think the whole idea about merging it back to one big piece is that if it goes through the subdivision review process and everybody looks at as far as access and impacts and all these other kinds of things that this configuration may not work after it comes out of that staff analysis and you may or may not be able to get that many parcels or other parts more parcels but without some kind of an analysis You know, access and other kinds of things.
Even though this is what the applicant wants at this point in time it might not be able to come out that way after they've actually done any kind of a review of it.
Madam Chair? Supervisor
Carbajal?
So it's sort of wanting the entitlement before looking at what entitlement is possible.
That's right.
And not so... For me it's crystal
clear. Any other questions? OK. Miss Trotter, back to you. Which slide are we on by the way? We're on the pictures so it would be slide six. Is that where we are? I think we're here. Mr. Allen, do you want to kick the lights just a tiny bit again? Sure. Thank you.
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What I would like to do is finish with the appeal issues we got into. The first one, we didn't finish two or three. So basically the appeal he talked about that opposing the condition of the merger and the approved certificates compliance and an argument with regards to the Moorehart case. The appeal issue characterizes the law incorrectly and is not applicable to the case at hand. The appellant quotes the California Government Code section 66451.10a, and staff does make a correction to page 4 of your board letter under Appeal Issue Number 2 under the Staff Response. I did have .19 and it should be .10 But excludes the words units of land which have been created under the provisions of this division. Only legal parcels approved in accordance with the law are covered by the cited merger laws as stated previously above.
In addition, the six conditional certificates of compliance were correctly approved with the condition that the local merger ordinance be used to correct the illegal subdivision. Furthermore, this merger condition utilizes a county merger ordinance Authorized by the statutes which is thus wholly unrelated to the issues argued by the appellant regarding the Morehart case.
His last appeal issue was the scope of county's authority to condition or deny. The appellant makes the argument that the only option for the county is to provide conditions for each of the illegally created lots and issues certificates as to allow individual sale and development of the divided parcels. The county is not required to give the appellate the parcels it created without following a legal approval through the process defined by the Subdivision Map Act.
Under the government code 66499.35, the county may condition and approve the subdivided parcels in any manner the county could have at the time that it was illegally subdividing. And unfortunately when the last subdivision occurred in 1985 they should have done a formal track map application if there were five or more lots and they should have gone through that process to legally create these proposed six parcels under the conditional certificate of compliance In the current case, a zoning administrator could have denied the certificates outright but instead conditioned them to merge the existing lots back to the 862-acre parcel or apply for the subdivision. By issuance of the conditional certificates of compliance, the county gives the appellant the benefit of having the certificates in place allowing for the sale of the property as a whole by requiring compliance with the law by requiring the merger or applying proper resubdivision of the illegal parcels created.
This basically, this slide here kind of shows photos of the Toomey property. This just kind of gives you an overview of what you're looking at, the steepness, the slopes. In addition, the next slide shows an access road here. This road that's existing and the grading associated with the road throughout the property has been done illegally and is currently under review by the county under a land use permit from 2009. There are major biological issues, and staff is working currently with the owners to come to some agreement on how to resolve these issues but they are waiting for resolution on the CFCs before they can move forward with any Permit remediation, whether it goes back to its natural state or we move forward with a subdivision map.
So this like I said, this gives you the roads here. These are the individuals. This is actually the access into it. If you've ever been on Colson Canyon, the roads are pretty narrow if you have a four wheel drive that's great. If you're in a sedan, it's really really rough out there. As stated here, I've put this up here just to let you know that any division of land is a violation if it's not legally done through the State NAP Act. And there is an impunishable by imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison or by a fine not exceeding $10,000 or both.
And basically, that would conclude. Staff would recommend that the applicants seek a subdivision of the parcels through the Subdivision Map Act process rather than the Conditional Certificates of Compliance process so that adequate analysis and seeker review can be conducted. This would conclude staff's presentation on this. I do have the recommendations, but I would like to defer to Kevin Reddy of County Council who has been involved with those Certificates of Compliance from the beginning and Michael Emmons is also here from the County Surveyor's Office for additional comments or questions.
Any questions? If not, we'll go to the appellant. Mr. Counselor, do we need to do ex parte kinds of... Is that this kind of a...? Anybody have Supervisor Lovanino?
Madam Chair I've had, I'd say two or three meetings with Mr. Nelson from
the trust
Supervisor Carvajal?
Madam Chair, I have not had any meetings or discussions with any of the parties involved.
Mr. Nelson is my neighbor but we never talk about this. Madam Chair, I haven't had any ex
parte on this item.
Madam Chair I have not had any ex parte either.
Any others? Okay and now Mr. Nelson And that's 15 minutes, Mr. Allen. Thank you.
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Thank you Madam Chair and honorable supervisors. I'll say that I've been treated with congeniality and I'll try to respond accordingly. The property is located in Colson Canyon on the east side of Tepiscate Road north, excuse me, on Tepiscate Canyon and the east side of Tepiscate Road north of Colson Canyon Road. I'm limited to a few minutes and I've prepared, I have a dozen copies of a summary which consists of three pages that I'll leave here that you might distribute May I say that the three pages is not nearly as flashy or technical as the presentation, but I'll also say that what's being distributed is substantially more accurate than the presentation that you have heard and that you received in the mail.
Okay? And may I say that I was not intending that those would be distributed now because it's going to divert the attention. Madam Chair, will you ask the council not to review those things
You
know,
I don't really have the power to ask them not to do
anything. Okay, very good. The appeal in this case that we're appealing right now is the inclusion of the special condition from requiring a mandatory merger of the six parcels if any of the six parcels should come into development it is not about The Abernathy certificates have already been issued and Abernathy is not applicable. It's not about environment because the property is a rough ranch land, it will be sold as rough ranch land. There's no change in use and there's no environmental impact.
It is not about public safety because if and when this property should ever be developed, it will go through the permit process with existing criteria at that time. Now in the presentation by Florence and the letter that was sent to you asking or suggesting or recommending that you deny, there were several things which I would like to address firstly. Statement number one, Jet Investments beneficiary Joseph Toomey purchased the property early 1970s from Jesse Wright. That is incorrect.
At the time, the deeds of the original 860 acres were illegal subdivides were officially deemed illegal by the county. That is incorrect. Okay? Four formal notices documenting the legal violation is incorrect and that no action has ever been taken over 40 years for Mr. Toomey is also incorrect. I will now give you a litany which is contained in the package that I gave to you.
In 1971, Jesse Wright acquired parcels, the majority of Section 1 and all of Section 2. Okay. He divided this into three, a new configuration and sold three of those to Homer Jethro, Renthro excuse me, and having three parcel sales and six remainders I will explain that if you have a parcel that is for sale consisting of three pieces and part A sells then parts B and C are remainders Okay.
It's believed that this time the county assigned numbers to those parcels and remainders. In 1972 Rice, in 1973 Rice continued to sell the remainders to several different persons. In 1974 Santa Barbara County issued four notice of violations which were inquiry Into the sales and asked the question The cause was failure to submit a parcel subdivision map It's a far stretch between failure to submit a map and illegal subdivision.
It's also most interesting that the county ordinance is at the time exempted from the Subdivision Map Act each parcel created of 60 acres or greater With no fewer than four parcels and when Rice subdivided, he met that exemption. The parcels are not illegal. Parcels have never been illegal in the package you will find the ordinance referenced. In 1974, Rice quit claim to last of his Holdings in that of that subdivision and gave them to Barbara and Phillips. Excuse me, sold them to Barbara and Phillips Two years after the notice of violation Phillips granted to Toomey and Toomeymembers three parcels and three remainders for a total of six Today Jet Property is consists of six parcels the original six that were purchased in 1975 through 1978 Okay.
Coonby in the 1980s did attempt to get security, to compliances, certificates of compliance and did go through the process that Fuentes said that he should have done. He attempted that may I say and made deposits in fees and attempted at least four times and possibly six but it was rejected okay? The only fault by Toomey was transferring his ownership of these six parcels to the newly developed trust, Investment and Children's Trust.
We fired Penfield and Smith in 2009. The best I could find, reputable license bonded and impartial. Okay, we asked them to do a survey of the property and to assist us in going for certificates of compliance. We paid a fee of $39,000 rather than the $6,000 because of the arising from the case of the transfer of those six parcels into the Jett Family Trust. Okay. On June 6th of this year, the zoning authority granted us certificates of compliance with special conditions and this is what we're asking. We're saying the special condition requiring a merger is improper The application by Penfield and Smith included a map similar to, in fact it was this one right here. This satisfied the request in 1974 of the notice of violation Okay, and the Zoning Authority rightfully granted the certificates of compliance.
It's important to point out that P&D has already determined that the jet parcel should be granted a certificate of compliance, but the county can only impose conditions with the certificates that would have been imposed in 1985. There is no ordinance now or then that allow the inclusion of merger as a condition of granting certificates. What Florence told you this morning is inaccurate, as indicated in this package I gave to you. It was a nice presentation but thoroughly wrong. The supervisors are asked to approve Jet's appeal to remove the merger The voluntary merger, actually the voluntary merger sounds a lot like an oxymoron doesn't it? You get forced to voluntarily merge your property.
Now if the property is sold, JET can probably increase, excuse me, the county can increase their tax revenue approximately 8-fold If the merger is not removed, the likelihood of selling a property is zero. So I would like you to also say that the introduction today of the illegal road... May I have an extension of time if required to mention that subject? Madam Chairman?
You have 15 minutes. And you have five left. Okay good. What I've told you today It gives you reason to reconsider the recommendation to deny Jett's appeal. What I'm saying is that the recommendation to you was defaulty, inaccurate both in substance and in intent. Rather vilified, Joseph Toomey. I recognize that I'm a trustee of Jet Trust and I have no...I receive nothing as a beneficiary so I have no vested interest in this.
Relative to the illegal road, there were some trespass violators that intruded upon jet property some years ago and started growing marijuana. This is unknown to us and they also built this unpermitted road to my Amazement, I found it the first time with the building inspector who had been told that there was a road being built and I went out to see it with him.
Okay we have a lawsuit pending against that so happens the County of Santa Barbara also has a lawsuit against the growers of the marijuana and the criminal cases take precedent over the civil case Jet's been injured and made several requests to P&D to remove the stop work notice that we can stop the erosion. When we first found out it, we submitted a plan including a storm water waste water prevention program.
We implemented that as long as we could but were prevented from going any further Now two years, as I recall last year in January or this year in January. I asked once again for removal of the stop work notice that we could prevent the stormwater pollution May I say that there's a letter in to John Camarillo right now asking once again if we can get up and mitigate the storm water runoff Nothing has happened. We've submitted plans on recreating, we've submitted plans on reforestation, on plantings.
Nothing has happened and that's the extent of my comments I'd be glad to answer questions if there were any. Do
we have any questions for Mr. Nelson? Thank you Public comment? Is that right?
No request to
speak. No public comment, okay. There's no use for rebuttal then from the appellant. I think that we probably have to go you Mr. Reddy to ask for your position.
A couple of corrections here. We are not requiring necessarily that they just merge everything. We're saying they can merge and re-subdivide if they so wish in whatever format they want. In fact, that's what the county has been requesting ever since the notice of violations in 1974. What those notices of violation said was come in with a map and get this done legally. And that's all we're asking now.
Mr. Nelson is correct that there are multiple different deed pieces. The four notices of violation In 1974, we're for both the present property and some adjoining properties. It was a hodgepodge of different lines so you don't have those before you. But then in 1985 Mr. Toomey came in and re-subdivided again without any legal Authorization to do so, and that's the current violations on top of pre-existing violations. Then Mr. Toomey did come into the county and asked for unconditional certificates of compliance on his 1985 illegal divisions. And yes he was rejected because he had no authority to do those divisions and the surveyor did have to refuse to give him an unconditional certificate of compliance This is A significant part of the underlying property, in fact some of every one of these six properties was illegally subdivided.
And these six properties are all illegal subdivisions also. The issuance of a conditional CC here is what they've asked for on this. The merger is what they're objecting to. The conditional CC allows them two things. It allows them to sell the property if they want before or after merger, and it allows them to get a permit to correct the illegal road. The county is forbidden to give them permits to deal with the illegal road until they correct the illegal division.
66499.34 says we cannot issue that permit until they correct the thing, so by giving them these six CCs and saying you've got to merge back to the outside boundary, we're allowing them to correct all of the problems.
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So my understanding is they can't sell anything right now?
It would be a crime for them to sell anything
right now. Even the 862 acres?
Yes.
Okay. Mr. Marshall, do you have anything you would like to tell us? Florence? Chair Gray, Steph has no further comments. Supervisor Love, Neno.
Thank you Madam Chair. Well I think I did the math. I think I was in fourth grade when this started I've actually taken quite a bit of time to try and unravel this 30-something years of bad land use decisions. And normally, I'm a very strong proponent of private property rights but there are limits. Obviously, I think either by ignorance or whatever the case may be, there was some disregard for proper planning and development decisions.
Those rules and regulations that sometimes I'm up here complaining about are also the rules and regulations that protect the rest of us. At this point, I'm not really sure...I still haven't got a firm grasp of why they would not want to move forward in By moving forward, take a step back, encompass the entire property and move forward that way. My motion is to move to accept staff's recommendation and as I also told Mr. Nelson that this is a tremendous ball of snakes Maybe after this forum that there's another form. There's always another form open to him and to continue this in the courtroom, so my motion is to accept staff's recommendations.
Madam Chair, could we ask the maker of the motion to specify all six of the applications for the records clear?
All four recommendations for all six applications.
Thank you.
Does that take care of it? Is there a second? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Thank you. That concludes that issue and I think that concludes the closed session. Before we go to closed session if there's any board members that have reports they want to give why don't you give them now. Anybody? Looks like we have no board member report so we'll go to closed session. We will take about... Yes.
I'm sure I do have one thing. Yesterday, I went to Kuyama and spent all day up there with all of my staff and met many if not most of the stakeholders up there. And it was just a great visit and a first interaction with all of my new constituents in that particular area
Supervisors from the South, can I ask you a question? I read something about the Bacara has changed its policy and I'd like to get it so that public people can go there. Can somebody clue me in?
Actually Supervisor Wolfe and I were invited to a meeting along with Council Member Roger Aceves from the City of Goleta to meet with some of the new ownership And it does sound like it's a new day for the Bacara that they not only want to mend some of their strained relationships with the city of Goleta and the general public, but really are going very far in the other direction. To be very community oriented and had that great open house to invite everybody to come They've changed the sign on the beach from, you know, Private Bacara Beach to Haskell's Beach which was always the historic name and was kind of a sore point for the community when that initially went in.
And they are very committed to making it very family friendly, making it very welcoming to their community and the public and the county for a lot of local businesses and meetings and conventions and events so it's very exciting.
Good thank you. With that we will. Yes ma'am?
I apologize, I just noticed how close we actually are to the time that we were going to do resolutions so perhaps your board would want to do the resolutions for folks.
Are they all here?
I think that we have at least a couple of them and that could probably get us very close to the time that others may join us.
Okay thank you. We're going to recognize Mary Quickenbush, Carol Cross and Heather McCaslin. Are they here? Yes. Okay. Why don't you come on up here and I can testify that they are the employees of the month because they take good care of us, like really good. So Mr. Allen if you'd like to read this and I'll go down and make a presentation
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Madam Chair and members of the Board, this is item A1. It's a resolution of accommodation for Mary Quackenbush, Carol Krause and Heather McCaslin of the Assessor's Office. They are the Santa Barbara County Employees of the Month for October 2011. Whereas, Mary Quackenbush, Carol Krause and Heather McCaslin are administrative office professionals with the Clerk Recorder and Assessor Department. Whereas Mary, Carol and Heather are currently working in the Assessor's Office and have established themselves as hardworking individuals willing to learn and explain the intricacies of real property transfers, valuations, exclusions and exemptions.
Whereas they each possess the willingness to learn new things and are committed, driven, prideful and determined to improve the way things are done through communication, efficiencies and teamwork. And whereas Mary Carol and Heather are constantly providing assistance of the public with their excellent customer service Each one of them accepting a challenge to tackle a tedious assessor project that reviews the validity of parent-to-child exclusions of property transfers and were asked to develop a procedure that makes the exclusions easier to process.
And whereas, Mary started her career with the Recorder Division in Santa Barbara in 1998 and transferred to the Assessor Division in Santa Maria in 1999. She has effectively challenged herself with all aspects of the assessors duties. In her free time she loves to travel. And whereas, Carol began her career at the Assessor's Office in 1999 and has worked in the Law and Public Office performing the various duties of assessor, clerk recorder and elections. Carol's hobby of the moment is quilting and her all-time hobbies are family and traveling.
And whereas, Heather began her career with the Elections Office in 2008 and has worked on many different projects for the Assessor when she was not involved with election duties. In her spare time she enjoys traveling and hopes one day to visit Ireland. Now therefore be it resolved and ordered that the Board of Supervisors recognizes Mary Quackenbush, Carol Krause and Heather McCaslin as Employees of the Month for October 2011. Passed and adopted today.
I don't know where to start but I've certainly worked with these ladies and they're amazing. Oh we have followers! And who wants to make a comment? All right.
Thank you so much, it's been great to see the progress on the project we've been working with and being able to assist the taxpayers with the Prop 58 has been great. We really appreciate the recognition. We also want to quickly thank our supervisor Keith Taylor and all of the title transfer staff for their help on this project.
And I would just like to add just how proud I am of the three of you, and even more so that how grateful I am at what you've done to really make the process more efficient for county government and the people of this county. So thank you very, very much.
Supervisor Lavinino has the number of the next resolution.
I do, I don't think Chief Dyer is going to get any flowers though. Chief Dyer if you'd like to
come forward? Boo!
And can we get also Division Chief Rick Todd
also. We're
getting everybody. And I'm reading this it says that Fire Prevention Week one of the Main causes is kitchen fires and we all know how to prevent that, is go out to dinner.
Madam Chair, members of the board. Item A2 is a resolution proclaiming the week of October 9 through 15 2011 as National Fire Prevention Week. Whereas October 9 through 15 has been declared National Fire Prevention Week time to reflect on our nation's past fire history remembering the Great Chicago Fire of 1871 and how out of that tragedy the national interest in fire prevention and safety emerged. Whereas, smoke and poisonous gases are the leading cause of death in fires and can kill a person long before the flames. And whereas, the kitchen, and more specifically cooking in the kitchen is the leading cause of fire ignition resulting in loss of life or property. And whereas, fire prevention and safety is everyone's responsibility.
And whereas the 2011 National Fire Prevention Week theme is protect your family from fire and it's a premise that every person can relate to. And whereas the Santa Barbara County Fire Department is dedicated to the safety of life and property from all harmful effects of fire. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved as follows that one, the week of October 9th through 15th is proclaimed National Fire Prevention Week throughout Santa Barbara County in support of our fire service agencies we encourage everyone to participate in fire prevention activities at home work school and every other place In addition, we encourage every citizen to set apart Tuesday October 11th 2011 to rededicate themselves to commitment of practicing fire safety.
And finally make this Fire Prevention Week the beginning of a year-long effort to improve fire safety whenever you are wherever you are and with whomever you're with. That's adopted today
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Madam Chair, your Honorable Board, Chief Executive Officer, ladies and gentlemen. I wanted to say thank you for the resolution. Thank you for your support of public safety in Santa Barbara County. Also, I just want to take this few minutes to let our communities know out there that fire season is not over. We had a little bit of rain last week but as we can tell outside it's blowing and we're going to have three days of hot weather I can remember times when it's raining in October and we have fires in December. So, just want to get that message out there to everybody to keep your eyes and ears open. Also this is also a good time with daylight savings coming up to install a new battery in your smoke detectors in each of your living areas in your house make sure that smoke detector is running you could push the button and tell if it's running.
Also practice some exit drills in the home That means going into each bedroom, look for an escape plan out of each of your bedrooms in your house. Or no matter where you are, practice your exit drills out of the house in case it's dark, smoky, even though it's your own home practicing those exit drills is important especially if you have kids. Teach everyone to stop drop and roll. And we teach that to our children in a lot of the schools but a lot of adults don't know that when they're on fire to get down on the ground and roll real fast.
Avoid storing unnecessary items in your garage. Now I know all of us love to store things in our garage, myself included but make sure paints and solvents some of that stuff is not near your water heater. Water heater will cause we get a lot of fires in the garage because people are either painting out there in the garage or they have paints or solvents stored near their water heater.
And finally teach kids that matches lighters and candles are tools not toys And if you suspect a child is playing with fire, check under the beds and closets for telltale signs of burned matches. And take your child to the closest fire station. We'll do some education with that child and let them know about the importance of not playing with matches or incendiary devices. So with that, I want to say thank you. Chief, I
have the handy hint of the day. I read this in the Eloise column. The lady said... Now listen up, Supervisor. She wrote in and said that any time she lights a candle in her home as soon as she lights it, she hangs a dish towel over the door in which she leaves if she's going to go somewhere. So as she goes out that door, she sees the dish towel, she goes whoops! There's a candle lit. I've got to go blow it out.
Worthwhile, huh? I think it is. And I think even if you're... You've just got to be careful with candles period. Any kind of candles. You may be in your living room or fall asleep watching TV. Just gotta be careful with anything like that but again thank you for your support of public safety. Thank you for this resolution
Thank you. Right now, it's my really great honor to recognize the volunteers. We kind of had a program of doing this and these are our own kind of county family that's developed. Brian Frazier and Sandra Plautz, are you here? I think you are. Would you guys mind coming up to the microphone or up to the podium? And Dr. Dietrich if you'd like to come with them.
So this is Sandra. Hi Sandra, thanks so much. He's busy working he's busy volunteering they were their recent graduates from a two-year consumer and family member peer training program that's the one that was awarded an award by CSEC And this was the second year of peer training offered by the department. Brian Frazier has been involved in the original design of the project, including providing input from a consumer perspective into the training process and at the end of this most recent peer training ADMHS Fiscal Division announced volunteer opportunities for two fiscal administrative support items. Sandra and Brian both applied and were interviewed and selected.
The fiscal staff are thrilled to be hosting this internship opportunity and finding Sandra and Brian valuable contributions to their division. Sandra and Brian are refreshing, they're refreshing and learning new skills and getting a broader perspective. Sandra that was a great training thing wasn't it?
Yes it was.
It was just you could see all the excitement that was going on and how people were chatting with each other and really supporting each other.
I've enjoyed learning about the client movement and Proposition 63, and ways of acclimating back into the community. So I appreciate this opportunity, and I thank you very much.
Well thanks again for a great volunteer, and we're going to send people to you so that you can tell them how great it is to volunteer. It is. Thank you so much. With that, we're going to go into closed session. Let's take about five minutes and... Oh yes, we need to announce what it is. I totally continue to forget that.
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Thank you Madam Chair. In your closed session item today, you have one item conference with labor negotiator employer relations.
It's online? Okay.
He had the will, and he had the will, and I never was a fool to give it to you.
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