BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

¶. you Good morning ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the almost last meeting of the year 2011. Isn't it amazing how rapidly a year goes? And I know you're all decorated for the holidays And finished with Thanksgiving and ready to

Mr. Levinino? Here. Mr. Carbajal? Here Ms. Wolfe?

Here.

Ms. Farrer? Here Mrs. Gray?

Thank you. The Pledge of Allegiance, because it's the holidays and we're doing more things with kids at schools and stuff I've been going to elementary schools and the way they do the Pledge of Allegiance The higher-pitched voices and the faster rhythm, it kind of throws you off. I'm used to the rhythm that we have here. So if you get a chance go to an elementary school and get in with a bunch of second graders and do the Pledge of Allegiance because it's a whole different experience.

And with that irrelevant piece of news, we need to approve the minutes of November 15 All in favor say aye. Aye. Okay, let's go to the A agenda and Mr. Allen if you'll tell us who wants to talk about what?

Madam Chair, members of the board we have requests from the public to speak on items A11 and A41.

And anyone at the board want to pull anything? Supervisor Farr I think you had one.

Thank You madam chair item A11 and item A16

11 and 16. Supervisor Farr? Supervisor Carbajal? Supervisor Lavinino? Okay, so let's... We have 11, so let's go with 11 right now Mr. Allen.

Madam Chair we'll start with Mayor Alvarez in Santa Maria on item A-11.

But what we need to do first is approve the ones that didn't get pulled. Okay. Alright, do we need to do something here Mr. Marshall?

What we're going to do as far as item 822, if I could read that into the record real quick. This is from the Public Works Department and it's an ordinance amending Chapter 29 of the Santa Barbara County Code relating to the regulation of water softeners in Laguna County Sanitation District. We'd like to trail this item to the end of the administrative agenda. Council has advised us that for the first reading of this ordinance, we should conduct a public hearing. So if we could approve the balance of the administrative agenda with the exception of those polled and Item A-22. All

right? Is there a motion to approve the administrative agenda as stated? Madam Chair? Yes,

ma'am. I thought I got something that said that Item A14 was pulled. Mr. Allen?

I have no requests on item A14. I

mean, not pulled but was taken off the agenda for today's

meeting. The Orkut library has been continued one week until 12-13. There is a memo in the package of that effect.

That's what I was thinking of.

Okay so we're going to approve everything but 11, 41, 16 and 22. So moved. Is there a second? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Alright, with that if those are your items you may now maybe want to return to your office. Let's start with 11. Mr. Allen?

Madam Chair and members of the board item A11 is

from...

I

see Mr. Alvarez. Mr Alvarez do you have something you want to pull? No, just item A11. Okay got it thanks

all right. And this item is from the Community Services Department and regarding the Rancho Guadalupe Dunes Access Road initiation of bidding process for road restoration project in the 3rd District.

Okay so Mr. Alvarez your comments?

Thank you very much Supervisors good morning as a proud mayor of Guadalupe I'm very happy that this items before you today I'm going to I would like People that are wheelchairs don't have full access and they also pay taxes, and they deserve to use this beach. So I know Gaviota Coast is very important to South County and San Barbara County as a whole and so is Guadalupe Beach. So, I asked for full support of this item and again, I thank Supervisor Farr and Supervisor Gray for working hard on this item. Thank you.

Thank You Mayor Alvarez

Our next speaker on Item A11 is here in Santa Barbara, it's Veronica Forrest to be followed by Dr. Robert Johns.

Good morning Ms. Forrest. Good morning supervisors I also am a resident of Guadalupe and we moved to Guadalupe specifically because of the beach In California, that beach is a nature preserve. It's beautiful. The kite boarders use it. They use the lake and the ocean that's right there. The surfers do go every morning and it's fun to watch them because the surfers that surf there are ones who know what they're doing. The waves are pretty big and strong so if you don't know what you're doing, you don't go surfing at Guadalupe Beach.

But the fishermen, like Mayor Alvarez said, they do go there to fish in the morning. And what's really rough now is that now it's not open on Sunday and Monday so if they're picking on Saturday and they have Sunday off they can't go because the beach is closed. The other thing is the handicap access is a real issue. Like my parents can't walk three quarters of a mile to get to the beach, so now they stay in San Luis Obispo County when they come to visit.

So now I have to drive up there to go see them or we just go up to Pismo Beach because there's no access at our beach for somebody who's in ill health. The other problem is that if you do get out there, there's no bathroom facilities Because they can't get in to pump the restrooms. So if you go out there, your time there is very short or you have to go in the water and I'm not going to do that. So it's very short access. So I love our beach and I really do want access to our beach. We have a ton of people that come to visit that stop at Guadalupe and they eat there. And when there's no access, they just keep driving through. So it is critical that we get our beach open.

Thank you. Thank you for testifying today. Dr. Johns? Good morning, Dr. Johns.

Morning Madam Chair. While I approve of all items in A11 I disapprove of item C. As I said before, I approve of all items in A11, A, B and D but I see no reason to dole out $50,000 from the CREF fund for this particular item C and object to that item C And I object to the way this has been awarded, developed. The way it's been, you know, the CREF fund is embedded within A11 and there's A, B and D and then here's a CREF fund $50,000 being given out too.

I'm just wondering, I objected that see and why is that Why is that in order to get the craft fund doled out to the environmentalists? Why is that embedded with A11? That's a question I want, and I want to know why would they approve something like this. And I'm definitely for A, B and D but not C. Thank you.

Thanks Dr. Johns.

And if Dr. Johns could stay at the podium, he's our final speaker and it's on item A-41 from the Auditor Controller and is acting as the Board of Supervisors, Board of Directors of Fire Protection District and Board of Directors of the Flood Control and Water Conservation District and it's regarding the Proposition 4111 appropriation limits.

Dr.

Johns?

Two weeks ago before we broke up for November, the Auditor Controller By the way, Mr. Geis is a award winning auditor controller. It was one of the best budgets I've seen in my six years here and one of the best budget hearings I've ever witnessed. And by the way, a Latino American made that budget presentation and you Carbajal were laughing and giggling Because you couldn't understand a particular item on the budget. Yeah, you're trying to think back to it. You forgot all about it. I don't forget about things like that.

In the future when someone is presenting a budget item and you can't understand it, you can ask questions like, I don't understand it but not laugh and giggle about

it. Dr. Johns let's stay on point. Thank you.

Okay? You feelin' me right Cargill Hall?

Thanks, Dr. Johns. Anything else on that? That's it?

Those are last requests to speak from the public.

And we have board members 11 or we did 11. Do you want to make comment on 11? Supervisor Wolf.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just wanted to lend my support for this project. I appreciate Mayor Alvarez coming to the podium to speak on it. We had discussed this at the board when this road was washed out and I think We were told that FEMA was not going to support or provide us with funding. So I am in absolute support, the comments that were made about making this available ADA accessible and I know and understand that it's one of the only beach access points in the North County.

My concern is using CREF funding for this initial phase. Our CREF policies, you know we're going to be looking at that in the D agenda. I'm concerned about the process of using CREFT funding for this. I believe that we should be considering use of our contingency fund. We have over a million dollars in contingency and or strategic reserve for this $50,000. If we don't know what's going to happen in the D agenda when we discuss CRAF, this item before us is contingent on us approving that item I think it's safer for us as a board to say this is such an important project that we are going to move forward and take money from either, like I said, contingency or strategic reserve. It's $50,000 to get this project moving.

Let's find out what the project is going to cost. It'll come back to us. It may be at that point that we do use CREF money for that. It may be that we, you know, are going to look to our roads department. I don't know But at this particular point, I don't want to take a chance that when we get to another item that we might lose this funding. I suggest that we look to fund it right now with the funds that we have available which really are for emergencies. This is an emergency as I mentioned.

We went to FEMA, we asked for reimbursement and we didn't get it. So I think as a county, we owe it to our community to fund it and to fund it now. So my suggestion would be is that we, and I guess I would ask staff just as a question about using of taking the $50,000 from contingency or strategic reserve

Ms. Waller, could you comment on that and what difference would it make as far as time getting it done immediately?

Yes, we do have funds in both of those accounts. Those accounts I am very protective on behalf of your board with because certainly we don't know what could come up in the future and our budget as I know you're aware is very very stretched and these are fairly modest. In fact they're really not adequate reserves and contingency right now so my concern would be utilizing funds that we have Other availability for that said, certainly it's up to the board as far as timing goes. If that were the board's decision, I believe that we would need to dock at a board letter to bring forward to you to do that appropriation separate from today, but I'd look to county council if they felt differently about that.

Yeah.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I appreciate the support for the project. I just feel that this is, you know when we got the report last week of what our budget looked like for next year, we're still looking at close to a $16 million deficit. I would be more inclined to support the money coming from the CREF fund where That's basically what this fund is for. It's for coastal resource enhancement. I can't find a better, I mean to me that would be allowing people to access a beach that like you said is only one of two North County beaches that we have.

I think that's exactly why this fund was set up and I would be much more inclined to spend the money out of a fund that's not our savings account.

Supervisor Farr? Thank you, Madam Chair. Well I'm sure that you can echo the comments that have already been made and what I will say also having worked very hard to try to find the funding to open this beach up again and you know I've been to flood control, I've been to roads, I've been to parks and this is where we ended up with. And to think that there is no beach access for What a hundred and fifty thousand people in the northern part of it of the county is Is this kind of mind-boggling?

and you know, I Craft was certainly my last choice too. But I do agree with Supervisor Lavagnino's comments that You know, this is a project enhancing public access to the coast. It's certainly right in line with what CREF is all about. I always hear from the community if there are big acquisition projects or other things that they would like to use CREF money for. I've not heard that this year. So it seems like a good dovetailing of timing. And again, I think the issue of timing is critical because of snowy plover season there's a very limited amount of time that you can do any kind of project like this out there. And if we don't act on this now, we're going to miss our window of opportunity this year and we're going to have to wait another whole year.

I just can't see doing that to the people in the North County that already have not had their access since this road washed out in March. So, you know I appreciate Supervisor Wolf's comments and but I've really tried to figure this out another way and there just doesn't seem to be another way. And I don't think that it's good for the city of Guadalupe and for the people of the North County to have to wait any longer to be able to get to the beach.

Thank You Supervisor. Supervisor Carbajal?

Thank you very much. Actually, Supervisor Wolf was going

I just wanted to comment on the use of CREF and I appreciate it, and I understand your comments. My issue is that this process that we're going through right now seems to lack a bit of transparency. Yesterday I got an email from staff that mentioned that we were going to be talking about CREF monies, the expenditure of CREF funding today. That's not what we've done in the past. In the past when we talked about allocation of CREF money, I got a big binder of different applications that came to the county with an explanation of what staff has been recommended. I feel that this process has truly lacked transparency, that we are moving forward and allocating CREF monies So obviously discussions have taken place outside of the public arena where we're going to be allocating CREF money.

And I am not debating That we need to take care of this road. What I'm debating is that this process is not, this is not where we just find the money. You know, CREF there's a process to go through and I actually do know of projects of municipalities particularly the city of Santa Barbara that is interested in potentially applying for a CREF grant We're really subverting the process, and that is something that is really important to me. So my suggestion is let's move forward with this. Let's get the money so we can move forward with the design.

We have the money. We have the $50,000. We've gone into contingency for other items. In my mind this is an emergency that we need to take care of. Let's go in that direction and then look down further down the line and go through the craft process as we normally do. I just think this is not transparent and it's really subverting the process.

Supervisor Carbajal?

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm going to be supporting this effort but it's not without validating a few of Supervisor Wolf's points. For example when we do discuss item number four, I've asked Mr. Russell to address us during item four about something that was deficient in our CRAF items We have health and safety issues with Santa Claus Lane. It's been known that we needed to move forward to keep the momentum going on that project, and certainly that's why I think Supervisor Wolf is raising the issue of using contingency and allowing other A process for the CREF grant funding. Like I said, I'm going to be funding this effort. I think that there's...I'm persuaded by the arguments at the end of the day but I will be discussing another item that goes to the heart of why Supervisor Wolf is raising these issues.

This is a new project we put in under emergency. Is it really an emergency when we have other health and safety issues? I'm willing to support it, but I'm putting my colleagues on notice that we will be including Santa Claus Lane as part of the discussion today when we consider Item 4. Thank you very much Madam Chair.

Thank you Supervisor and I too felt this is the very best use of CREF funds that I've seen since I've been on Board of Supervisors In that North County has struggled to find kinds of things that CREF could do and this very road was built by oil companies many, many years ago. So talk about using your money where it's being funded. So if Supervisor Farr, if you'd like to make the motion we should probably pull this one separately because I think Supervisor Wolf wants to vote against this so if you want to make a motion Support 11.

I'll move A11. Is

there a second? All in favor, oh let's take roll call Mr. Allen.

Mr. Lavagnino. Mr. Carbajal. Ms. Wolfe. I'm abstaining. Ms Farr. Ms Gray. Aye.

Thank you all very much and we have one left I believe don't we 16.

Madam Chair members of the board item A16 Thank you, Madam Chair. I have

Some concerns with the budget policies that have been presented to us. I would have preferred that this item be put on the D agenda because the implications are striking when we move forward in developing our budget. I cannot support making budget decisions in a budget principle document, which is really what we're being asked to do today. Making a decision to contribute $2 million to future jail operations and also funding for deferred maintenance. I'm not saying that when we move forward during the budget, that those are decisions that I might indeed agree with but as a budget principle it goes beyond a principle. It's a statement, it's a budget statement and I'm not prepared to do that.

Thank you Supervisor. Anyone else on this one? Supervisor

Waller. Thank you, Madam Chair. Just following up on Supervisor Wohl's comments. Ms. Waller could you tell us what is different in these budget principles from last year because I also pulled out and I mean I think last year you were recommending a million a year to be set aside for the jail and now you're recommending two million so maybe you could speak to that as well as any other changes.

Chair Gray, Supervisor. For the most part except for the jail operations, the document's very similar to what it was last year. There has been a little reordering done and a very small amount of word changes. The future jail operations is on there because as a part of the budget approval last year, included in that proposal was a plan for funding the jail operations so that the jail could open. I believe it's in 2017.

That actually indicated that there would be $1 million ongoing from last year And that this year, we would add an additional $1 million of ongoing for a total of $2 million of ongoing in the future budget. So that's why it's reflected here in that manner.

Are there questions?

I would just like to if we could just vote on this item separately please. Okay is there a motion do you have something else?

I'm comfortable with the guiding principles that are presented by CEO Waller. I'll retain the right to vote for or against this during June's budget deliberations, but for the time being, I'm comfortable with the guiding principles as outlined. You could include in the budget adoption process something that I think you're going to do but somehow wasn't reflected in here.

The financial quarterly update, I think usually gives us a quick glimpse of where we're at and it's very instructive for our budget process and it's something we've done every year. It was neglected to be included because it's pro forma activity that you do all the time. But I think it would be wise to include it in here, because it reflects that we get that financial update in this process sometime, I think it was March or April? So if that could be included, it'd be great.

Chair, Supervisor, yes. That's always been our intention and we will include it in the formal information that we pass out as we have done in the past. We definitely will be bringing those quarterly updates to you because they are very important as we're going into the budget process.

I failed to mention another concern that I have and actually asked for a crossed out version of what had been done last year and compared it to this year. And there is something that is concerning to me other than what I had expressed before, and this has to do with requests for one-time funding which always seems to be an issue when we deliberate in our budget. And what this principle is saying that when a request is made for one time funding There's a blank and it says, must show a substantial return on investment and background documentation must be submitted. When I say the word must show a substantial return on investment, I don't understand what that means especially when we're dealing with primarily a service-oriented operation so since it looks like this item is going to pass, I think it's important.

I'd like to know what that means.

Ms. Waller?

Chair, Supervisor, there was language last year about one-time funding but specifically what we're hoping to do as a budget principle is get ourselves a structurally balanced budget where ongoing revenues match our ongoing needs and one time dollars are used for one time projects. One of the criteria that I believe is very important for a one time project is that it has a return on investment meaning that we can show that by expending X number of dollars now over some time in the future we will save many, many times that amount in ongoing operational savings. So that's what we're intending to say there is we want to be able to say that for every dollar we spend one-time funding, we will recoup that several times over in the future. So, so

it is specific to the financial aspect. Not we're not looking at like human services or anything like that. It's purely financial which is how it reads I just wanted to make sure. Yes that's correct Supervisor.

Other comments? Do we have a motion? Is there a second? Roll call

Mr. Madueno, Mr. Carbajal, Ms. Wolf?

No.

Ms. Farr? Aye. Ms Gray?

Aye.

Passes 4-1.

So now we've finished the administrative agenda and we have to deal with number 22. Is that correct? Okay. And Mr. Marshall is going to do that.

Sure.

Thank you.

Also Madam Chair, I don't believe that we had a motion on Item A41 yet, which was also pulled for discussion. So if we could have a motion on A41, the honor controller item?

Is there a second? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Thank you Mr. Allen. 22.

Madam Chair, members of the Board. Item A-22 comes to the board from the Public Works Department. We request that the Board consider recommendations regarding an ordinance amending Chapter 29 of the Santa Barbara County Code relating to the regulation of water softeners in Laguna County Sanitation Districts 3rd, 4th and 5th districts.

Madam Chair, this is an introduction of an ordinance commonly known as a first reading. We advise the department that this needed to be read into the record and elevated to a more public presentation. The department advises if they're prepared if there are any questions but otherwise they're ready to submit on the board letter And we would just ask that if your board moves this up forward, that the motion moving it forward include waiving the further reading of this ordinance as it passes to the second.

Any further questions on this one? Supervisor Farr, it's your district now.

I'll make a motion to move this item.

Is there a second? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Thank you. We're now ready to go to public comment

Madam Chair, members of the board we have three requests to speak on public comment. We'll start with Dr. Robert Johns to be followed by Vincent Armenta.

Thank you Madam Chair. Now as we close this end of the year and we move to the 2012, and that's as commemorative or festive as I'm going to be okay because from now on The first thing I want to happen is, I do not want Farr to be the chair of this board. And let me give you some reasons why. Number one, the Santa Ynez Valley and I declare it the racist, the most racist district in the county of California.

That's my declaration. As far as you are from that district, in order to hold yourself in this district you must commit election fraud. An IB. And for someone like that to be the chair of this board I do not want that to happen. Now there's a Madam Chair here could move on and become the chair again either one. Carbajal you could become the chair. You've never been the chair What are you fearful of?

Working under the skirts of these two women, hiding under the skirts of these two women here.

Dr. Johns, let's be careful. Okay. Can't say something nice, don't say anything

at all. Now let's go back to Gail Marshall from your district. Out and out races. Let's go back to Firestone, out and out racist. And may I add sexist from the history of your district fire? And this has happened just this year, the redistricting committee and that sending it as Valley Vintners they're racist through the core. And when they made those statements while the students were out of town, that they hated the students at Isla Vista.

You were there you heard those statements and the very next week Farr brought the Santa Ynez Valley veterans in here and gave them an award! An award for their racism, and everything I'm saying here is the truth. So for someone like Farr to come to be the chair of this board, I think it's despicable. Despicable. You've got to think about this. Thank

you.

Our next speaker is Vincent Armenta to be followed by Dr. Joseph Aragon and Lisa Doche.

Chairman Arminto, welcome. Well good morning

Madam Chair and board members I believe you all know why I'm here. I am here to speak about the 1400 acres our tribe is trying to bring in a trust. We now have over 1300 letters and signatures from third district residents over 2500 letters and signatures from countywide residents supporting the tribes effort to bringing this land into trust And not, as you all know we provided the county staff five or six months ago with a draft cooperative agreement. These letters do not even reference the cooperative agreement. They want the county to work with the tribe and support us in our effort to bring this land into trust.

That's what I'm here for. I'm here to let you guys know that we do have support of your constituents to bring this land into trust and I ask the county to work with us on this. And if the county would like a copy of this, I have additional signatures and letters as well. So again thank you for your time and enjoy your day.

Thank you Chairman. Next speaker?

Our final speakers will be Dr. Joseph Aragon and Lisa Deutsch

Welcome doctor. I think you have some good news. He has his coat on for a reason. Don't worry, we're all okay.

You guys are safe. I won't do any procedures here this morning. Good morning supervisors. Thank you very much for allowing us to be here today. Every year the American Heart Association honors companies throughout the U.S. that have taken concrete steps to create a culture of wellness in the workplace. Companies that are committed to help their employees live healthier lives The American Heart Association and helping the American Heart Association achieve its mission of building healthier lives free of heart disease and stroke.

As your Central Coast Division Board President for the American Heart Association, I'm honored to be here today to announce that the American Heart Association has awarded the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and Dr. Wada with recognition as a fit friendly company. This award is given each year to companies who provide opportunities to encourage physical fitness and healthy eating in the workplace, and to companies that promote a culture of healthy living.

Currently, the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department offers on-site Zumba classes, it does an annual walking challenge for its employees, and it offers more than 50% or better healthy food, drinks, and choices in the vending machines and at public health events. In recognition of your strong leadership in promoting employee health, I am pleased to present you with this plaque honoring the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department as a Gold Level Fit Friendly Company. Congratulations!

Zuba, you guys could do that too.

This is the first we've heard of Zuba classes. We haven't heard of them.

These guys were getting on their outfits as you spoke.

Madam Chair, members of the board. I'd really like to thank the American Heart Association for this recognition. It's really through partnerships like this with the heart association, with our local partners, the hospitals, the schools, our providers, our non-profit organizations that we are really working together to address the issue of trying to increase physical activity and improve our diets. We've developed and will be rolling out a fitness promotion plan And these are small things, but we try to lead by example when we can and we have a long way to go. But it is nice to get this recognition. To borrow a page from our colleagues down in San Diego County the numbers to remember are 3, 4, 50. That's three behaviors lead to four illnesses that lead to fifty percent of deaths.

And the three behaviors are inadequate physical activity, poor diets and tobacco smoking. And the four illnesses are cardiovascular disease, diabetes, cancer and respiratory problems like emphysema. And that again is leading to 50 percent of the illnesses. Unless we address those behaviors through making the healthy choice the easy choice, through policies, through media by changing these social norms. These are the only ways we're going to improve health outcomes and really drive healthcare costs down. So again thank you for the Heart Association I'd also like to recognize Dr. Scott McCann who's leading the effort within our Health Department and again we'd like to invite you to a Zumba class just let me know when you're ready so thank you very much.

Thank You doctor It's like a dance kind of thing, it's a dance routine. It really... It's aerobics and dance all put into one. Steve? Please somebody... Oh my my! Could we let's read the number one into the end of the record and get it continued, and then we'll take like a five minute break so that we can get set up for the D agenda.

Madam Chair, members of the Board. Item 1 is from Planning and Development. This is the appeal filed by Ross Bagdazarian and Janice E. Karman of the Montecito Planning Commission's denial of the Bagdazarian Appeal and de novo denial of the Land Use Permit. And this is regarding a property on East Mountain Drive in the Montecito area and requests that we continue this matter to January 17th 2012. Is there

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¶. Number one, she's slipping. It's time to replace her. We're going to be doing a trade here in the minute. It's time. Okay, Mr. Allen we're on item number two.

Madam Chair and members of the board Item 2 is from the County Executive Office hearing consider the adoption of a resolution to allow department heads to temporarily reduce hours of operation from December 23rd through January 2nd 2012 to implement previously negotiated furlough agreements for certain groups of county employees

Ms. Muth, you are going to be handling this one? Thank

you. Yes, Madam Chair and members of the Board. As the Board knows, this year we have worked with all of our labor groups to achieve concessions. With a number of the groups, the concessions included a 40-hour furlough that, to the maximum extent possible, would require departments to close between December 23rd and January 2nd of this year and then into 2012.

And the purpose of this board letter is for the board to pass a resolution as the county code allows the board to change the general hours of operation for the county when it is for financial necessity, and so the action of the board today would be to pass the resolution that would allow departments to close or partially close as outlined in Attachment B during the period of time from between Christmas and New Year's.

And with the board's approval, we would then issue press releases have the operational plan rolling on GATV and also provide departments with the signage that they would need to notify their customers and clients of the closures.

Any questions? Any public... Supervisor Wolff

Thank you, Ms. Meuth. Dr. Watt I have a question as I had before when we did our furloughs and I'd like you just to explain. I'm always concerned about our primary care clinics being closed particularly around the holidays well closed anytime but So if you can give us a summary of that, because I think it's important for the public to know and understand. And then as needed, I'll ask some questions. Dr. Wada?

Sure, Madam Chair, Supervisor Wolff. We do plan to open our clinics partially during that week because you are correct, to be closed for an entire week would not meet normal standards of practice particularly for pregnant women that need to be seen more frequently So we will have services during that week at different levels, depending on the specialty. Certain specialties will not be available that week. We don't anticipate that that will be a problem.

That's typically a slow week for us in general and then we will have walk-in for urgent care visits as well as prenatal clinic and certain other services, pediatrics.

Okay, that's it. So urgent care, so pediatrics if a, for instance Franklin Clinic will they be closed or will they be open for urgent care?

They'll be partially closed. So they'll be closed on certain days but then they'll be open mid-week and so we do have a partial scale back of those services across the entire county at different sites.

Okay, so I guess I just need to be really clear. So how does someone know? Let's say they have a child who is sick. They would normally go to the Franklin Clinic. Where do they go for urgent care other than going to the hospital?

They could go to an available urgent care center or end up in the hospital emergency room. We will be publicizing all of our dates at the various clinics when we're open. We do have after-hours call access, so we do have providers on call where people can call in as well.

This then is concerning to me, that there are times and our clinics are closed and not even open for urgent care. Do you have any concerns about that?

Madam Chair, Supervisor Wolf. It is a concern. Access is always an issue for us but it's basically being handled like it would be for a holiday or a weekend and we have the same level of support. We'll have other services providing refills on medications and things like that so again we have to sort of weigh access versus trying to accommodate the needs of the county.

Dr. Watt, I'm going to take a leap of faith in what you're saying and ensuring that people will know ahead of time and be aware of what the hours are and where they need to go if the clinic is closed and there's an emergency or if they can't get urgent care at a particular place.

Madam Chair, Supervisor Wolf, we actually will be putting out a separate press release and notifications to all of our partners for example, so hospitals as well because it's important for them to know when we're open and when we're not open. So we'll be doing a separate more detailed effort over the next week.