BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 January 10, 2012

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:07 · ≈ 9:00 AM

See everybody and smiling faces and all that kind of stuff. I guess you're smiling if you're a Alabama fan. You're not smiling if you're an LSU fan. Let's see, convened a regular session. We are in regular session for the year 2012. And it's roll call time Mr. Allen?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed0:28 · ≈ 9:00 AM

Ms. Ruth President, please

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:31 · ≈ 9:00 AM

join

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed0:32 · ≈ 9:00 AM

me for the Pledge of Allegiance.

Well, now listen carefully because it might be confusing. It's my pleasure to order the convening of the 2012 Board of Supervisors. This is the 162nd time this has happened. Now I haven't been here for every meeting But that's really a lot. I had to ask Mr. Allen, and I said, I thought we had more than 162 meetings? And then he explained to me that didn't mean that.

So now we have to come up with a chair and a vice-chair. So is there a nomination for a chair for next year?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:45 · ≈ 9:01 AM

I'll nominate Supervisor Farr.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:47 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Are there any other nominations? Do we have a motion for unanimous ballot? Do you want us to do

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:54 · ≈ 9:01 AM

both? Madam Chair, it's up to the board. You can accept a nomination for chair and vice-chair for next year. All right let's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:03 · ≈ 9:02 AM

just do with chair this time. Is there a motion for unanimous ballot?

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction2:06 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Is there a second? Second.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:08 · ≈ 9:02 AM

All in favor say aye. Aye. Congratulations Ms. Barr. And we also need a vice chair. Do we have a nomination for a vice chair? Mr. Labnino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.762:24 · ≈ 9:02 AM

I'll nominate Supervisor Carbajal.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:26 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Supervisor Carbajal, all in favor say aye. Aye. Congratulations Mr. Carbajal. I know you'll do a stellar job. So now do we need to do anything else, Mr. Allen? Except pass the gavel over to Ms. Barr?

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction2:49 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:51 · ≈ 9:02 AM

What do we need to do?

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction2:53 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Madam Chair, there's a new gavel for 2012 and you can present that to Supervisor Farr who will be the chair. And then we would anticipate remarks from Supervisor Gray our current chair well ex-chair and then remarks from Supervisor Farr as the incoming chair and then any other comments that the Board of Supervisors would like to make?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:13 · ≈ 9:03 AM

All right it is my distinct pleasure to pass this gavel all wrapped to Supervisor Farr. Congratulations. One of these days, we'll get purple gavels. I'm getting a little tired of these brown ones but until that time, we'll stick with this. I just want to quickly say, I'm so honored and thank everyone for allowing me to serve as chair of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors.

It's truly an honor. And I also want to thank these fellow board members for what I call extreme effort and dedication. You are looking at some really fine people. What's happened this year is absolutely a definite change in the way public entities do their business. Since probably the end of World War II around 70 years ago, Governments, public entities managed growth.

Once in a while there'd be a little bleep but mostly entities were managing growth. What has happened this year is we've been managing all government entities have been managing downsizing whole different way to do a job and when that happens You have to change your mindset, but it takes employees' cooperation, citizens' cooperation, department heads and whatever types of folks that can help that entity out with professional kinds of advice.

As I was thinking about this, I thought you know maybe I better go ahead and take a little bit of time and define what downsizing has meant to the County Board of Supervisors. One thing that it's been, it's been the elimination or delay of actually negotiated pay raises. It's been across the board Pay reductions, furloughs or absolute freezing of merit raises.

The other thing that came as a bit of an interest to me was it's been a reduction in staff. In 2003 we had 4,015 employees now we're down to 3,600 employees. That's a drop of A huge amount of people. But we've been able to do that, the board has been able to see that done through the folks that work for the County of Santa Barbara because of technology, productivity and dedication. So even though it's happened, it seems to be working.

Another downsizing has been a reduction in the cost per employee So instead of an employee costing $4,300 average it is now down to about 3.4% less which amounts to 15.9, so I should just say 16 million dollars a year. We also have had to observe a soft hiring freeze And one of the really big things that's happened, and we have to listen at all times to this is a reduction in retirement benefits.

And that's been done by recalculating the pension benefits at 2% at 61 1⁄4. And it's calculated now on three years rather than one year. The retirees COLA has been decreased to two percent And interestingly enough, from this point forward new employees will be contributing at least 50% to the normal COLA increase. Sick leave and vacation pay will no longer count as wages.

We did an interesting thing, I don't believe I voted for it but it's worked. And that was took Parks Housing and Community Development which were two departments and created one which we now call Department of Community Services. And that has ended up saving about $500,000 so and we hired a remarkable Director for that department. This might seem like a small thing, but it was kind of setting the tone.

This board went from four meetings a month to three meetings a month. And the reason for that was to save dollars so those dollars could be moved to direct services that would really impact people immediately. So, that was done and we were kind of can we really make this work? But it's worked again because of technology and productivity, as well as weekly planning sessions that help us figure out how to make the meeting run as smoothly as possible. And that is great thanks to the Clerk of the Board and how they've organized what's happened And to Supervisor Farr, who has been there every single planning meeting.

I haven't seen vice chairs go to the planning meetings before but she really did. Another thing that seemed to make things work better is subcommittees. Some of the subcommittees have actually worked wonders. So that board members have taken special time, spent a lot of extra time figuring out how to make things work and work well without hammering or hampering what people expect from county services. So thank you all for being on subcommittees and I can hardly wait until next year when I get to be on some.

So that should be fun. A big hoo-ha, hands out shout to the volunteers. Can you guys believe what people volunteer to do? It's amazing. We've got libraries being built, we've got people helping with mental health and physical illnesses. We've got pilots actually flying county staff to meetings that they have to go to saving hundreds and hundreds of dollars and hours.

Folks are volunteering to landscape their roundabouts and middle of the roads and sidewalks. So volunteers, you know this just goes on and on and that's wonderful and that's why we have recognized them every single meeting to just say hey look at what's going on out here. And you know you can't ever end a speech without saying last but not least I tried to scratch that out but I just couldn't Was the fact that we were joined by a new CEO.

And she's been remarkable Miss Waller welcome. You are amazing and we have enjoyed working with you I think. You're, you've kind of done it this way. When I think of her she's a picture of make it happen well and cheap so we're glad to have you and again folks thank you fellow board members thank you for allowing me to be the chair it was nothing but fun thank you very much Who calls, you're the chair now.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed11:32 · ≈ 9:11 AM

I guess so. Can we make comments? Are you going to make a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed11:39 · ≈ 9:11 AM

comment? I think I will. And then, but anyway, I also want to thank you for all of your work. So let me present these flowers to you. Oh, thank you! And actually they kind of pick up the color. They're

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed11:50 · ≈ 9:11 AM

purple! If you can't get a gavel, maybe you can get flowers. Thank you so much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed11:58 · ≈ 9:11 AM

You know, Supervisor Gray has made the work of being chair look very easy. I know that this was not her first time as chair but still it's a much harder job than that it may appear because we've had such wonderful people here on the board who have acted as chair and so I can only hope that I can do as well with everybody's help. I also want to thank the rest of the board members for their For their very hard work, dedication, commitment and the collegiality that we really do share here with this Board of Supervisors. And I know that we disagree from time to time on different issues and may vote differently But still, we all work together very well on all the different issues that face county government. I also want to thank Ms. Waller and her staff, the CEO's staff, County Council, Mr.

Allen, Clerk of the Board. They also help to make the meetings run very smoothly every week and again make it look easy when I know it's not an easy job. Supervisor Gray made comments about all of the sacrifice and dedication of our entire county family this last year, and I also want to add my thanks and appreciation to that. I see some of the county family on a weekly basis, but many of you I have never met. But I certainly appreciate your dedication, your hard work day in and day out every day of the year for county government to provide the services that all of our residents need and expect.

And still provide very excellent customer service even under the difficult conditions that we've had recently You know, it's also a very interesting experience for me to have been elected and now to be chair when it was probably a dozen years ago or so. I think Supervisor Gray was on the board when I was sitting in the audience waiting for my turn to speak at the microphone.

And so from that experience and being on the County Planning Commission, it is very important to me that we make government continue to work on county government being accessible Being accountable and being transparent. And so one of my goals as chair is to continue to facilitate that ease of public participation because I think that provides greater government accountability, improved decision making and the public's trust.

Certainly, what has been and continues to be first and foremost on our minds is the economy and our budget. At the national, at the state, and certainly at the local level we are still struggling with this economic downturn. And so many people in our county are still suffering because of it. Our unemployment rate is way too high and we need to work on that.

It looks like our budget picture going into this coming year may be somewhat improved from what we were looking at a year ago, but still we have a lot of challenges and of course we don't know yet what the effects of AB 109 are going to be or some of the budget triggers that are going to be pulled at the state level. With that we know that we can't keep cutting in order to best provide the services that we need to For our residents and so we are going to make economic development and job creation a very high priority.

Obviously county government is not the sole answer for this, but we can certainly facilitate this and be a partner with our cities with our business groups with our chambers I'm Our educational institutions, particularly UCSB which is such a powerhouse in so many ways. Particularly with new spinoffs and startup businesses and connect them with the groups and the cities in particularly in the northern part of the county which I think have not had that kind of communication with UCSB. I think another exciting idea is the idea of co-ops, which has come out of a volunteer group in Lompoc as a way to challenge the problem of finding capital to expand and start small businesses.

Also look to see how we can help agriculture, which is still our number one industry in Santa Barbara County To add value to the products that they produce and to support other business opportunities that support agriculture. Obviously, we wouldn't have the dynamic agricultural industry in our county if we didn't support and protect it And I'm very proud that this county has continued to support the Williamson Act, even when the state kind of stopped helping us fund that because we know how important it is to keep our agricultural lands viable. And of course our incredible environmental diversity that we have in this county.

It's amazing when you think about the stretch of California coastline that we have in Santa Barbara County And all of the biodiversity that's there and all of the resources that it provides for our residents, as well as the incredible quality of life. So we certainly have plenty of challenges ahead of us but as we know challenges also create opportunities for thinking outside the box and coming up with some different answers. And I'm certainly very proud to be your chair in the coming year and look forward to working with all of the board, and all of our staff, and all of our residences to successfully face these challenges. Thank you.

And now if there are other members of the board that would like to make comments? Supervisor Carball?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed18:10 · ≈ 9:18 AM

First of all, to you Chairwoman Farr, congratulations. I look forward to your leadership as our leader and as our chairwoman for this coming year. And to outgoing Chair Supervisor Gray, despite our policy differences we might have, I just want to say that you've been an extraordinary chairwoman and representative of our board Not only in the business we conduct, but also representing our board in various functions in the community. And I just want to share my appreciation to you for your leadership.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed18:47 · ≈ 9:18 AM

Supervisor Levin.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.7618:49 · ≈ 9:18 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. I just want to piggyback on that. First off, Supervisor Gray, you're the best chairperson I've ever served under so... You have a lot to live up to. Yeah, I do want to let the folks out there know that and you touched on the collegiality. I think this board gets along very well and we obviously have our differences but you know I think for the greater good of everybody that were able to work together and move the ball down the field as we need to so I'm looking forward to a great year with you Supervisor Chairperson Farr and congratulations.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed19:30 · ≈ 9:19 AM

Thank You supervisor Wolf

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed19:32 · ≈ 9:19 AM

Thank you, Madam Chair. I also wanted to extend my best wishes and congratulations to you. I look forward to a very productive year having you serve as chair. I also wanted to thank Supervisor Gray for her work this past year and in years past but Watching you serve as chair this last year has been an education for me. I think you have brought a lot of really good novel ideas to how we run our board meetings. The way you deal with the public, I think is something that other public officials should look too. You've been so kind and respectful, and yet been able to maintain the decorum of our meeting so that we move through our meetings in a very professional manner.

I also you mentioned the issue of volunteerism and I think your initiative to bring forth people to the board meetings and they weren't necessarily on our agenda so we never really knew what to expect And every time they would come forward, I thought this is an amazing person and amazing group. And I was always so happy that you and departments would come forward and bring individual citizens or folks that work in our community in our county.

So what I wanted to do is I just wanted to give you this little book that I found It's called The Heart of a Volunteer, and it's full of quotes. And there is just a short little quote here that I wanted to read. In every community there is work to be done. In every nation there are wounds to heal. In every heart there is the power to do it. So, and there's some really neat things in here for you. So I wish I could think of a nice quote except the only thing I can say to you right now is that I want to thank you for your work here. I want to thank you for your friendship.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed21:56 · ≈ 9:21 AM

Well, thank you everyone. And now I'd like to recess this meeting for a brief reception down the hall in the conference room and everybody's invited and we will be back in 15 minutes.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed23:30 · ≈ 9:23 AM

Yeah. Yeah. you Thank you. Yeah. You. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, everyone. Yeah. you Yeah.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed40:08 · ≈ 9:40 AM

Thank you. All right, everybody. Let's bring this meeting back to order again and our first order of business now is to approve the minutes of our meeting of December 13th 2011. I have a motion. I have a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Now we will move on to administrative agenda. We do have one resolution to present and so I would like to go ahead and take a motion just on that so that we can do that before we do the rest of the admin agenda I have a motion to approve A1. Move resolution.

And the second? Second. Okay, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right, Supervisor Lavagnino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.7641:12 · ≈ 9:41 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. I've got a resolution today that's recognizing Lieutenant Matthew Jensen of the Salvation Army for breaking the world record Matthew took it upon himself to stand out in front of Foods Co. for 41 hours ringing the bell for the Salvation Army. I went out there many times just to check up on him, I'm just kidding. Two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning he probably doesn't remember me there but that's okay.

I can't imagine doing anything, even something enjoyable for 41 hours so my hat's off to him. He's been an inspiration to a lot of people in Santa Maria showing us that we all can do a little bit more. So Mr. Clerk if you could read?

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction42:04 · ≈ 9:42 AM

Madam Chair and members of the Board, this is a resolution recognizing Lieutenant Matthew Jensen for breaking the world record. Whereas on Saturday December 17th 2011, Lieutenant Matthew Jensen of the Santa Maria Salvation Army broke the current 36-hour world record for continuous Salvation Army hand bell ringing by an individual. And whereas, Lieutenant Matthew Jensen made it all the way to 41 hours at 2 AM on Saturday morning.

And whereas he braved icy temperatures, hunger and exhaustion to stand outside Foods Co. in Santa Maria for 41 hours while continuously ringing a bell seeking donations to help the needy as part of Salvation Army's Red Kettle campaign. And whereas competitors were allowed only 10 minute breaks every four hours but had to keep standing and ringing and were permitted to consume only fluids.

And whereas, for 120 years the Salvation Army Red Kettle has been an important symbol of Christmas giving. And whereas, the kettle is also a reminder that as long as there are people who lack the necessities of life, the Salvation Army will be there to help. Now therefore, be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors of the County of Santa Barbara commends Lieutenant Matthew Jensen for his dedication and extends best wishes for his continued success in the future. Pass it adopted.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed43:31 · ≈ 9:43 AM

Mr. Jensen, would you like to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed43:33 · ≈ 9:43 AM

make

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed43:33 · ≈ 9:43 AM

some

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed43:33 · ≈ 9:43 AM

comments?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed43:37 · ≈ 9:43 AM

That was nice, thank you Supervisors. I think the Supervisor already mentioned this morning that the downturn in the economy is hitting us all, especially the Salvation Army. We are down 22% in donations at the beginning of our kettle season and we're pretty worried because that takes a good chunk of how much we can serve this great city in 2012. And the first time I heard that a few of my friends were going to attempt the world record, I said that's crazy. I'm not going to do that. That's insane and but then seeing the people that come to us, the many men women and children who show up at our door every day for food assistance just A diverse amount of needs, coupled with the fact that I'm seeing our funds dwindle down and potentially not being able to serve them as much as they deserve to be served by Salvation Army.

I said you know what? I'm going to attempt this and I want to break it. First of all spread an awareness in the city and the county of the Salvation Army's need I'm Not only helped fill the gap of the 22%, but we were able to exceed our ideal goal of fundraising this Christmas season. And so now, thanks to the generosity of the community and the great media that stepped up and just great hearts that people have here in Santa Maria, we're able... We can now say confidently that we're able to serve in big ways every single man, woman, child who comes to us in 2012 and tell them that they're loved The Salvation Army and the people of Santa Maria love them very much, so I accept this with great honor.

And I look forward to continue to serve all of you and serve everyone else of Santa Maria on into 2012. Thank you very much.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed45:44 · ≈ 9:45 AM

And thank you, Mr. Jensen for your great heart and for the work that the Salvation Army does day in and day out throughout the year in Santa Maria and throughout Santa Barbara County. They're really such an important community partner with the county. All right let's go on to the rest of our administrative agenda. Mr. Allen I think you have some addendums that you want to add?

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction46:04 · ≈ 9:46 AM

Yes, Madam Chair and members of the board. We published an addendum on Friday and I'd like to go through the items on this one at a time if I may. We added item 826 to the administrative agendas from community services. The item is to consider recommendations regarding the construction of the Guadalupe Dunes emergency road restoration. And I just wanted to note that there was a late distribution this morning memo on this item number 826 that was provided to the board this morning Item A27 was also added to the administrative agenda, this is from Supervisor Farr. This is to approve the appointment of Michael Cooney to the Santa Barbara County Law Library Board of Trustees. That's a term ending December 31st 2012.

Additionally we amended item number one on the departmental agenda, this is from the county executive office. This is to consider board of supervisor appointments to boards commissions and committees will be considering that little bit later this morning. We added recommendation S Which is to appoint the chair as the ex-officio member of the Law Library Board of Trustees.

Also we added item number nine to the departmental agenda, this is from Supervisor Farr. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the waiver of a double fee penalty for permitting Los Olivos sign violations and potential land use in development code amendments regarding double fee penalties and signed standards. And that is being set as an 11 o'clock time certain this morning.

And that's all I have on the addendum Yes. And just so everybody's aware, the rate distribution item A26 this morning is available in the back of the room for anybody who's interested.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed47:38 · ≈ 9:47 AM

Thank you Mr. Allen. Any items on the administrative agenda that board members want pulled? Supervisor

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.7647:46 · ≈ 9:47 AM

Lavagnino? Madam Chair I'd like to pull A22

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed47:49 · ≈ 9:47 AM

please. A22. Any other items from the Board? All right. Supervisor Lavagnino why don't we have the clerk read that item

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction48:02 · ≈ 9:48 AM

Madam Chair, members of the Board. Item A-22 is from the Agricultural Commissioner. The request is that the board set a hearing for January 17th to consider recommendations regarding a revision to Chapter 34C of the County Code Weights and Measures in the adoption of an agricultural commissioner's revised fee schedule.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed48:19 · ≈ 9:48 AM

All right,

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.7648:19 · ≈ 9:48 AM

Supervisor Labadino? Thank you, Madam Chair. I just wanted to, I know this is just setting the hearing for next week but I do want folks out there. My office has been contacted by a number of different mom and pop organization companies retail outlets in town that have a lot of concern with this. new ordinance and So what I just kind of wanted to do is get the word out there to anybody that is concerned about this they may have received a letter in the mail from the Ag Commissioner's office, and if they do have concerns to make sure that The people that I've talked to you were concerned about Some of the impacts to their business And if anybody's got any concerns to make sure that they are here next week and express those so If you receive something and you own a business, and it was from the Ag Commissioner's office and you've got concern about it next week is the place to be.

You can come here and even though the meeting's in Santa Barbara, you still can have your voice heard here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed49:23 · ≈ 9:49 AM

Great. Thank you. Mr. Allen, members of the public that want to speak to the administrative agenda?

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction49:30 · ≈ 9:49 AM

Madam Chair, I have a request to speak on items A2, A3 and A7 from Dr. Jones and on item A13 from Mr. Caldwell. Both of those individuals are in Santa Barbara. And if you'd like madam chair we could take a motion to adopt the balance of the administrative agenda.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed49:48 · ≈ 9:49 AM

So moved. Second. All right all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Alright we've approved all but A2 3 7 & 13 for right now So why don't we go to Dr. Johns?

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction50:04 · ≈ 9:50 AM

Yes, Madam Chair. Dr. Johns has slips in on item A2, A3 and A7. Item 18 is from Supervisor Carbajal. The request that the Board adopt a resolution celebrating the life and legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Item A3 comes to the Board from Supervisors Carbajal and Wolfe. It's to adopt a resolution of commendation honoring Cottage Health System for its dedication to serving the communities of the Central Coast, and for opening up the new Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital.

Item A7 is from General Services. This is regarding recommendations for permission to bid on the Lompoc Veterans Memorial Building renovation project in the Lompoc area in the 4th District. Dr. Jones will have five minutes.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed50:43 · ≈ 9:50 AM

All right. Dr. Johns, welcome to the first meeting of 2012 and Happy New Year! As you know you have five minutes total for the three items.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed50:55 · ≈ 9:50 AM

Thank You Madam Chair and Happy New Year to everyone out there I want to get to the business at hand here now this resolution by Carbajal celebrating the legacy of dr. Martin Luther King Carvajal I find this to be despicable for you to even mention his name. Martin Luther King is a hero in the black community, a hero to many many other Americans not just black Americans but Latino Americans African-Americans have made progress in this country year after year and you Carvajal a racist who refuses To apologize for his racist referral. As Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed51:51 · ≈ 9:51 AM

Gray would say, let's be kind here go ahead and make your comments.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed51:56 · ≈ 9:51 AM

Well, I appreciate that Madam Chair. But I find a person who is unable to own up to his own mistakes is a person who lacks character and Martin Luther King was a person of character. Let me move on. Now, College Hospital is a wonderful system. This County Board of Supervisors need to take note that they are in the lead. They are in the lead of health care and mental health care in this particular community. I've commented many times that our Mental Health Department is in disarray.

It is not respected by the state of California. It is the worst, and the state of California has said this, it is the worst mental health department in the state of California and Cottage Hospital needs to take over our mental health department. So I want to make note of this and I want to go down on a record That we are doing a disservice to our mental health clients when we ignore the wonderful system there at Cottage Hospital. Let me move on now. And Carbajal, I don't know what your problems are but well, I do know what they are.

Let me move on. Now general services here and the building of Long Polk Veterans Memorial We need to make sure that the planning and preparation of this particular building and construction, that there are minority or African-American. And if there are no African-American contractors, workers, Mexican American contracting workers then this contract needs to be Rebid until there are African American minority contractors. And that can be done if you try, if you try. I'm going to be checking into this to make sure that this is done in its proper way and it's proper method.

I would like to say though that this new county government being formed in 2012, we are approaching the worst racist county government we've ever had on record. We can tell by the prosecutors, Dudley Refusal to hire Mexican-American?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed54:49 · ≈ 9:54 AM

Dr. Johns, this is the admin agenda so if you're speaking on those three items that you mentioned then if you have a speaker slip in for public comment then you can come to the podium later. Thank you. Next speaker Ms. Charlin

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CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction55:07 · ≈ 9:55 AM

Madam Chair and members of the board, we have a request to speak on item A13 from Mr. Caldwell. And that item is from Public Works. It's considered recommendations regarding the Santa Barbara County Association of Government's commuter rail funding request letter of support. Mr. Caldwell is in Santa

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed55:21 · ≈ 9:55 AM

Barbara. Happy New Year to you also, Mr. Caldwell.

PresenterAndy CaldwellCOLABProposedself-stated55:25 · ≈ 9:55 AM

Thank you. Same to you, Madam Chair. Members of the Board, I'm Andy Caldwell representing COLAB. As you know we supported Measure A and we were well aware that $25 million towards rail in Measure A and we're not against rail in any way shape or form. In fact, we are supportive of it But there's a big but in that sentence. The question is, how are we going to pay for it?

It's one thing to construct it. It's another thing to operate it. It is another thing to subsidize it. And we believe that the Board of Supervisors and SBCAG needs to have a full-blown hearing where A path is charted out and that path includes financial commitments. Specifically, you're asking the state or you're supporting SB CAC's request for the state to give money. Well what does that imply with regard to the county's commitment and SB CAC's commitment? Because as you know I don't think that money is pretty much coming out of the South County But the county is part of the South County, and we would like to again know what would we get for the $25 million? What will we get with this $7 million?

Where are the negotiations with Southern Pacific? Secondly, of course, dumping people off at a train station doesn't get them to their jobs. What are the impacts to bus services and the cost there? We don't think that you should be asking for money from the state of California as the Board of Supervisors, which is what you're doing right now without informing the county taxpayers to what degree you're on the hook for how much and when.

The biggest problem with rail is that Just as you have to subsidize the fare box in a bus, you have to subsidize it in a train. And a train is much more expensive to operate and maintain. Secondly, you don't own the rails. And so it's not just like sending a bus down the road. Negotiations are going to have to be done with the railroad. And we think this is premature, this item. We'd ask that you pull this item until the public knows What commitments are implied by virtue of the application for the money, even if you were just sending a letter.

And again this is something we think that counties in the cities need to get together and talk about this in an open meeting. Because it's one thing to have a wish list and to put $25 million towards that wish list. It's another thing to backfill and be in it for the long haul, and we don't think the taxpayers or Measure A can afford that at this time. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed58:27 · ≈ 9:58 AM

Thank you, Mr. Caldwell. Supervisor Carbajal?

PresenterAndy CaldwellCOLABProposedself-stated58:29 · ≈ 9:58 AM

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed58:30 · ≈ 9:58 AM

you Madam Chair. You know I encourage Mr. Caldwell to come to the South County sub-regional meetings that we have as part of SBCAG. All these issues and questions have been raised, continue to be raised and are part of the thought process and analysis In And if we could keep in mind that $25 million were voted in as part of the Measure A initiative towards rail, whether it's subsidy operation capital.

It's all of the above. And that money, we're looking at stretching it for the life of the measure which is 30 years. So I think we're just trying to leverage any and all resources to help our endeavor move forward as soon as possible and all those questions good and valid questions that Mr. Calderwell raised will and are being addressed.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed59:43 · ≈ 9:59 AM

Thank you. Any other comments from the board? Supervisor Wolf.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed59:48 · ≈ 9:59 AM

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd like to make a motion that we approve these remaining items from the admin agenda.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed59:55 · ≈ 9:59 AM

All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. Alright, we'll go ahead and move on to public comment and I would like to start out by having the pleasure of introducing a couple of people. One new to the county, one not but in a new position and I'd like to start with Beverly Taylor who has been appointed as Chief Probation Officer.

She was sworn into office on December 22nd by Santa Barbara County Superior Court Judge Arthur Garcia. Ms. Taylor? Beverly's been employed by Santa Barbara County Probation Department for over 30 years. She was promoted to Deputy Chief Probation Officer of the Institutions Division in June 2007. In October 2008, she assumed responsibility over the Institutions and the Juvenile Divisions serving in both assignments for two years.

In December 2010, Beverly assumed oversight of the Adult Division. In 2003, Beverly spearheaded the $14.6 million grant-funded expansion of the Santa Maria Juvenile Hall from 50 to 140 beds overseeing many critical aspects of the project This expanded facility, the Susan J. Gianfredo Juvenile Justice Center became operational in 2005. Beverly has also led efforts to restructure the children's system of care, directed the consolidation of juvenile unit operations to free up a supervising probation officer for a pilot adult program and reorganized the counseling and education centers into community school collaboratives.

Beverly is a lifetime Santa Barbara County resident and received a bachelor's degree in social sciences from California Polytechnic State University San Luis Obispo. She's been married to her husband for up 27 years, Peter Taylor. So congratulations Beverly and we really look forward to your leadership as the new Chief Probation Officer for Santa Barbara County.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:02:03 · ≈ 10:02 AM

Chair Farr and Supervisors, I am truly honored to be here today. As a probation department our mission is to protect and serve our community and we do that in a variety of ways. We bring timely reports and thorough reports to the court. Our staff then enforce those court orders and provide services to our victims. We also ensure that our juvenile detention and treatment programs are safe and effective As Chief Probation Officer, it will be my personal mission to serve the courts, to serve this board and to serve the county. And I will do that with passion and integrity. I am proud to have been selected for this position. I'm excited of the good works that we do as a county. I am looking forward to again working with this board, working with all of the departments I'm hopeful that 2012 will bring many opportunities.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:03:15 · ≈ 10:03 AM

And now I'm also pleased to introduce our new Assistant CEO, Renee Ball. Renee if you'd come to the podium. Renee began yesterday and comes to us from the Arizona State Parks Board where she served as the Executive Director since 2009. She's going to be providing oversight to six county departments, the Agricultural Commissioner, Community Services, General Services, Planning and Development, Public Defender, and Public Works.

Prior to her time with the Arizona State Parks Board, Renee was the Director of Parks and Recreation for the County of San Diego, the Assistant Parks Director for Arizona State Parks, and a fiscal analyst to the Arizona Joint Legislative Budget Committee. She brings strong experience in the areas of environmental issues and policy development and is well-versed in operational, financial, and policy arenas in the public sector.

Renee has a Master of Public Administration in Policy Analysis, Environmental Policy and National Resource Management from Indiana University School of Public and Environmental Affairs as well as a Bachelor of Arts in Economics from Emory University in Georgia. So we look forward to working with you and your strong collaborative leadership here in the County of Santa Barbara and we know you're going to be a wonderful asset to our CEO's Leadership Team.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:04:29 · ≈ 10:04 AM

Welcome. Thank you Madam Chairman, members of the board. I am excited and honored to be here. Santa Barbara County is known for its strong management it's out-of-the-box thinking and of course is full of rich diverse cultural and natural resources and I couldn't be happier and I look forward to serving you and all the residents and visitors of this county

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:04:54 · ≈ 10:04 AM

thank you All right, Mr. Allen let's go on to the rest of public comment. Do we have other speaker slips?

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:05:05 · ≈ 10:05 AM

Yes Madam Chair we have three requests to speak. We'll start here in Santa Maria with Carly Zulu and then we will go to Santa Barbara for Rachel Flores.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:05:14 · ≈ 10:05 AM

Okay and just remind everybody that the lights at the podium work just like stoplights so green is go yellow means you need to start to slow down and red means you need to stop. Wrap it up

CommentCallen ZuluProposedself-stated1:05:46 · ≈ 10:05 AM

Good morning, Supervisors. My name is Callen Zulu. Oh my! You have always known what has transpired behind the scenes and you Janet when you gesticulate after I finish my public comment for the Piss Court hearing do you think that it's good enough for Erich to know its own condemnation? What do you want County Council to do? DA Joyce Delay-Post may add a version of her During public comment for fraudulent prosecution of crimes or none at all for rape, murder intended, fathers complained upon me alleging a piss crime. PC-242 battery and PC-273 cruelty to child endangering health.

What do you want county councilors to do? The hearing is set for January 12th and alleged crime was coached by county personnel. Doug and Lisa fueled. Aided by super-high technology, long range acoustic device and satellite images. Intrude into where I sleep, eat, work out, shower, have sex and who watches the display of those images. County personnel Doug and Lisa Feudt What do you want County Council to do? I have positively ID'd the voice that LRAD user Lisa Field, aided by Doug Field but cannot make a crime report as your Sheriff Bill Brown and deputies i.e. watch commanders in SWAT conspired and participated in the attempt to murder me in 2007-2008.

And now fraudulent prosecution. Your DA, Joy, said they would not charge county employees because she too participated in the crime. Kathy at Sandler County Properties is already dead in 2008. What do you want county council to do? Fresh and easy stuff. No one sold me the fresh and easy sweet tea with piss farmacles for a timely substitute for anger. And then Doug and Lisa fueled coastal alleged crime wanting something violent.

What do you want county council to do after the tea where did I go out in public? I mean, you know we allow crimes and violence. When I reported Judge Denise Bailfield the previous Al-Rad chant to grab a knife during a piss escalation event in public in November 2009, I believe it was her that intervened. I do not know if Judge Denise Bailfield will intervene now to end piss.

What do you want County Council to do? You allowed the everyday Al-Rad satellite friendly suggestion of long range UV device for continuous physical hurt. Doug Field openly disclosed that he works for the county. You pay for county crime, you pay county money for this crime to happen. What do you want County Council to do? I will not legally accept a charge for a crime that I'm not responsible for. I didn't tell Lee St. Doug to do this.

Sometimes it gets a good feeling, yeah, Etta James when I think only of me and what I'm going to do. I'm taking this criminal prosecution public. How much the County Board of Supervisors knowingly agreed conspired to hurt me and for violence to happen to them, the public. They, the public, you can't care for me until you guys care for yourselves. This is ridiculous!

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:08:25 · ≈ 10:08 AM

Thank you. Next speaker, Mr. Allen?

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:08:27 · ≈ 10:08 AM

Madam Chair, we're going to go to Santa Barbara for Rachel Flores to be followed by Dr. Robert Jones who's our final speaker.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:08:33 · ≈ 10:08 AM

Ms. Flores, welcome.

CommentRachel FloresProposedself-stated1:08:35 · ≈ 10:08 AM

Good morning. Honorable Supervisors of Santa Barbara County, my name is Rachel Flores and I am the Regional Director for SEIU Local 721 in the Tri-Counties. The start of the new year brings with it many challenges for our members and organized labor. For the first time ever in Santa Barbara County this board voted to impose terms And conditions on a bargaining unit despite impassioned pleas from constituents and employees to go back to the bargaining table one more time.

As a proud representative of SEIU Local 721, I have already witnessed the hardship that this harsh and unreasonable action is having on county workers. Some of you on this board have recently stated that you would make the same decision again today And the SEIU members deserved the 3.5% pay cut, furloughs and reductions in benefits. SEIU 721 was the only unit to sustain such a high cut in wages while other units defer future increases while maintaining their current wages our members are now scrambling to figure out how to pay for food or childcare gas for work health care costs and their paychecks got smaller There's something inherently wrong when these workers who serve the most destitute residents in Santa Barbara County become destitute themselves.

SEI 721 holds the welfare of its members in the highest esteem, it is excruciating to watch what they are going through. Collective bargaining provides the most reliable method of striking a balance between the true needs of the employer and employee to ensure quality service, as well as economic stability in admittedly tough times. It is in the interest of everyone that all these standards are met.

Sadly this was not the case in Santa Barbara County and we hold this board, well at least four of you Responsible as it felt to you to provide the necessary guidance and leadership to ensure a better future for your employees. We recognize the reality of the economy, and we will always be eager to come up with solutions that benefit the county, the community, and our members.

However, your actions once again put the burden of improving county finances on a class of employees who can least afford to carry the burden. On behalf of the dedicated county workers who you forced to take a 3.5 pay cut Thank you, Ms. Flores. Next speaker? Dr. Robert Jones will be our final speaker

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:11:47 · ≈ 10:11 AM

You know I find it totally despicable racism and it began on December the 13th in this county. I've never seen such horrible, horrible instances of racism in this county. On December the 13th local 721 And they ought to file a lawsuit against this Carver Hall and I'll tell you something, for you to be so despicable to vote against your own people. That's the bad part about it.

And people who, 713 local 721 sorry. Local 721 are people who are working in the Department of Social Services and as I've commented before this department brings more money into the county than any other department yet you Carver Hall and Farr you vote against these people? People who themselves work for and bring in money to the county, more money. People who themselves may be put on food stamps. The very people that they're working with they see the most The population that is, it is so despicable that this county refuses and then they tell the lies that the rest of the county has negotiated and they've given up part of their cell. That's a lie! A total lie.

And the way you handle your cell supervisors on this issue there needs to be The issue needs to be brought back again to go back to the table to renegotiate with Local 721. How you've handled this, December 13th oughta go down and that was 2011 oughta go down as a most racist day in this county. December the 13th 2001. And Carvajal you oughta be You ran out of this town. You ought to be run out of this town for you're a hater of your own people.

Pot clinics in your county, in your district, in the first district on the east side, on the west side and you do nothing about it and that's just because people don't vote in your area so you just ignore them. You're racist to the core and you ought to be run out of this town on a rail. Thank you board members

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:14:31 · ≈ 10:14 AM

All right, Mr. Allen is that our final public speaker?

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:14:34 · ≈ 10:14 AM

November 1st to speak Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:14:36 · ≈ 10:14 AM

Alright very good so then we will move on to our departmental agenda.

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:14:43 · ≈ 10:14 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board we'll start with item number one. This is from the county executive office and the recommendations that the board consider appointments to boards commissions and committees and each January the board considers appointments to boards commissions and committees in which a member or members of the board serves. We provided an attachment for the board reflecting all those appointments made on January 4 2011 and staff would be looking for a motion to affirm the current assignments or to make any desired changes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:15:12 · ≈ 10:15 AM

All right, thank you Mr. Allen. Comments from the Board of Supervisors on this? Anybody want to make any changes here?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.761:15:23 · ≈ 10:15 AM

Supervisor Gray, are you still okay with the homeless? I got a note that he might have wanted...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:15:31 · ≈ 10:15 AM

I've got to learn how to turn the mic on so we

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:15:33 · ≈ 10:15 AM

can.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:15:35 · ≈ 10:15 AM

I'm all right doing it, but I felt kind of selfish because I've done it for years and years and years. So just keep it? Okay fine.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:15:46 · ≈ 10:15 AM

All right Supervisor Wolf.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:15:48 · ≈ 10:15 AM

Yes, thank you Madam Chair. I'm fine keeping the appointments that I have although I know you had brought up CENCAL.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:15:59 · ≈ 10:15 AM

Yes, I had asked Supervisor Wolf whether she might consider taking the CENCAL assignment which she had before in which Last year, but for whatever reason it seems to be one of those assignments that always seems to come up at opposite times of what works for my schedule. So I asked her if she would consider taking that back because I know she did such a good job before.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:16:25 · ≈ 10:16 AM

I'm not sure about that, but I certainly enjoyed being on the CENCAL board and I would be happy to do it again.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:16:30 · ≈ 10:16 AM

That would be wonderful thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:16:32 · ≈ 10:16 AM

Madam Chair if there's an alternate on that I'd be happy to do it. I did it for about five six seven years and and I'd be happy to take the alternates position because I learned a lot on that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:16:43 · ≈ 10:16 AM

Okay it just shows one regular member but I don't know that there isn't is there a reason why we can't have an alternate?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:16:51 · ≈ 10:16 AM

If there is, you can kick me off.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:16:53 · ≈ 10:16 AM

Yeah, we... You can go ahead and make the appointment. We'll look and see if there's any prohibition in the bylaws creating or the JPA that creates this entity.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:17:01 · ≈ 10:17 AM

Okay. Thank you. Thank you Supervisor Gray. Sure, thanks. Supervisor Lavagnino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.761:17:06 · ≈ 10:17 AM

Madam Chair, and I probably should have talked to Supervisor Wolf about this before but on LAFCO, I'm listed as an alternate which is fine. I'm happy being there. I just didn't know if with your term expiring does this then increase the term back to 2014? Or how does that work?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:17:26 · ≈ 10:17 AM

Mr. Allen, I think there was a correction.

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:17:28 · ≈ 10:17 AM

Yeah, well in the first attachment I listed the dates or the actions that took place on January 4th 2011. In the next attachment there's a note that references the subsequent appointment of Supervisor Wolf to a regular term at LAFCO that expires in March 2015 so she is currently filling a term at LAFCO that expires in 3-15. Okay,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:17:53 · ≈ 10:17 AM

good. Supervisor Carbajal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:17:56 · ≈ 10:17 AM

Yes, Supervisor Farr. Don't answer my email I sent you on CENCAL because now that pertains to Supervisor Wolfe and we don't want to violate the Brown Act so don't answer me just disregard it. I know that's exactly so in order to not violate the Brown Act don't answer me and then I could pursue it with Supervisor Wolfe.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:18:19 · ≈ 10:18 AM

Boy that makes everybody curious doesn't it?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:18:22 · ≈ 10:18 AM

It was just co-sponsored or something.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:18:26 · ≈ 10:18 AM

All right, so we have the one change for SENCAL and everything else I guess is going to stay the same, the board assignments. So if that's the case, I'll entertain a motion to that effect.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:18:36 · ≈ 10:18 AM

So moved Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:18:38 · ≈ 10:18 AM

Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Alright, thank you everybody

we'll move on to item number two this is from the County Executive Office Miss Waller and actually Mr. Allen please read

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:18:50 · ≈ 10:18 AM

it. Madam Chair members of the board this is item 2 from the County Executive Office a hearing to receive and follow report that updates the organization of the county executive office in relationships to departments.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:19:03 · ≈ 10:19 AM

Ms. Waller

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:19:04 · ≈ 10:19 AM

Thank You madam chair members of the board What I wanted to do today is update you on the current organization in the CEO's office. As I know, you're aware over the last year we have done some fairly substantial reorganizing things such as combining our parks and our housing community development into our community services, merging our HR in with our CEO's office Both of those saving us nearly $900,000 of ongoing dollars. We've also had over the last year Mr. Stilwell who was our one of our two assistant CEOs was very fortunate for him somewhat unfortunate for us appointed to the city manager for the City of Carmel which left us a vacancy As I know you're aware because we introduced her earlier this morning. We've been very, very fortunate to be able to have Renee Ball join us as an assistant CEO so all of those things sort of set us up to reorganize and I thought it would be good to share with your board today the details of that and then also our public.

So first I thought it would help to start out with big picture what the current organization of the county looks like Oh, good. Sorry I couldn't see it from my direction. So the first slide that we have for you is really just a broad picture of how we're organized. Obviously our electorate at the top with our Board of Supervisors and then flowing down beneath the Board of Supervisors you see myself, county council and then flowing below that the department heads. On the left-hand side in the light blue you see the other elected officials So that's overall how we're organized, but I wanted to get into a little bit more detail about how the CEO's office was going to provide administrative support to the departments and how we were going to manage those.

And so that's the next slide that we have for you. So specifically what we've tried to do is organize the departments under myself, Renee and Terry Nisich our other ACEO to represent the functional groups that we see working closely together. On the left hand side you will see that Renee will be responsible for what I for the most part refer to as our operational and administrative support group such as the Ag Department Community Services, General Services, Planning and Development, the Public Defender and Public Works.

And then I'm going to go clear to the right side of our chart and we're going to see Terry's responsibilities being those around what I would often refer to as our Health and Human Services Department with alcohol, drug and mental health services, child support services, the first five commission, public health and social services. And then going to myself in the middle because I somewhat pride myself on being a working CEO for lack of better terminology you'll see on the left hand side What I would typically refer to as those departments that are either electives or self-directed, such as our auditor controller, our clerk recorder assessor, county council which obviously reports to your board but administratively we will provide support. The district attorney, the probation department which is appointed by the presiding judge but again will provide administrative support too.

The sheriff's department and the Treasurer Tax Collector. And then those that are on the right-hand side of my column, we will have the Assistant to the CEO, we will have our Budget Director, our Emergency Services Director, our Fire Chief, and our Human Resources Director. So again I just wanted to very briefly update you on what we were doing as far as organizational changes.

Nothing is ever fixed and cast in stone, so I would anticipate that over the next year we'll continue to look at our organization and make refinements where we think that those refinements would better fit us. But one of the first steps again that you'll see here is where we're really looking to organization by functional groups and those departments that have a lot of contact with each other and leverage each other their resources grouped within the same sort of administrative support I would be happy to answer any questions that you have and this concludes my presentation to you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:23:48 · ≈ 10:23 AM

Thank you Ms. Waller, any questions from the board? Supervisor Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:23:52 · ≈ 10:23 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. I don't have a question, I just want to make a comment and thank CEO Waller for pulling this together. I'm sure that one of the people who's smiling the most is Terri, because she now has someone to be her partner and lessen her workload to some degree. And I think as a supervisor and working with constituents it's really important to know Working charts in front of us and I think for the public. In particular, the chart on the other side and I'm glad to see that you. Pulled this together. I think it you've done a great job, and I'm particularly impressed that we've we've this is different than we've had before where you have pulled the elected officers off to the side and the reporting here just makes so much sense So I want to thank you for putting this together And I feel like as we begin this new year and We are we are in a good position with some really strong administrative support to move To move forward, so thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:25:07 · ≈ 10:25 AM

Thank you Supervisor Wolf. Do we have any requests from the public to speak on this item?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:25:12 · ≈ 10:25 AM

No requests to speak Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:25:13 · ≈ 10:25 AM

Okay well if there are no other comments or questions then I think this is a motion to receive and file the report. So moved. Second? Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much Miss Waller. Alright go on to Item Number 3 with the Community Services Department Mr. Allen

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CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:25:35 · ≈ 10:25 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board. This is item 3 from Community Services. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an agreement with long-term management between the County of Santa Barbara Managing Partner and the United States Bureau of Reclamation And I just wanted to note I have a late distribution Item that I'm going to distribute right now on this and I will also make these available at the back of the room for members of the public

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:25:58 · ≈ 10:25 AM

Okay Mr. Parker? Mr. Roney welcome Let you go ahead and begin the presentation. I think we need a microphone on there.

PresenterHerman ParkerCommunity ServicesProposedself-stated1:26:16 · ≈ 10:26 AM

Testing. Very good. Thank you, Madam Chair, members of the board. My name is Herman Parker, Director of Community Services. I'd like to introduce to you Brian Rooney, our Deputy Director of Community Services. And the long-term management agreement that you have before you for Cochuma Lake is between, of course, the County of Santa Barbara and the Bureau for Reclamation.

It is substantially the same agreement that the Board approved at their August 9th 2011 meeting. The agreement has had some minor modifications to it which we will cover. None of these minor modifications to the agreement change any of the public's access or operations in terms of the facility. Public will have the same rights of use and ability to use the facility as they have.

Some of those changes include, the agreement rescinds the agreement that you approved on August 9th and it replaces that. Secret language in the agreement has been updated in the document. Approval of this agreement is not approval of a project subject to environmental review under CEQA. The agreement is for 25 years and the agreement will also allow the county, but does not mandate the county, to implement an invasive species monitoring program. We do have one in place now And with that the agreement has been reviewed by the Board of Reclamation, our County Council as well as Risk Management. Staff is very pleased to be able to bring forward this agreement for the board's approval. This will ensure continued access and availability to this wonderful county resource and we'd be happy to answer any questions that you might have.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:28:02 · ≈ 10:28 AM

Thank you. Any questions from the board? Supervisor Carbajal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:28:06 · ≈ 10:28 AM

Thank You Madam Chair I just want to thank Herman for kind of tying this item up and finally just bringing it to us to finalize and move forward with. So, thank you for your good work. I know you're new to our county and you've hit the road running and the ground running should I say? And I just so much appreciate your good work. Thank you Supervisor Carr.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:28:31 · ≈ 10:28 AM

Any other comments or questions Supervisor Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:28:34 · ≈ 10:28 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. As I went through the agreement, I was struck about how many requirements that this contract makes on concessionaires and there is actually on page 21 there is a provision that says that the county has to include certain items in the contracts with our concessionaires and I just wanted to make sure That the provisions that are in here are, are in the contracts that we have with concessionaires. Because there's a lot of requirements that they have to fulfill and if they don't fulfill them for instance if there is environmental issues or just you know following different state federal and local laws that the Bureau can come in and essentially shut down Kachuma So I just, is there any reassurance? Can you tell me if you know if these provisions are in our contracts with our concessionaires.

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PresenterHerman ParkerCommunity ServicesProposedself-stated1:29:43 · ≈ 10:29 AM

Mr. Roney

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:29:48 · ≈ 10:29 AM

Supervisor Wilk, Madam Chair yes but when we went out to bid last year with the RFP we had County Council thoroughly review the new concessionary agreements and there were a number of changes made to that agreement to include all the provisions that are in the management agreement before your board today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:30:03 · ≈ 10:30 AM

Okay that's excellent thank you very much

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:30:06 · ≈ 10:30 AM

All right. Any other questions or comments? Any requests from the public to speak?

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:30:12 · ≈ 10:30 AM

No, Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:30:13 · ≈ 10:30 AM

Actually, Madam Chair I just wanted to recognize you for your efforts to work with our state legislators to deal with hazardous materials along the 154 and it relates this because Lake Kachuma is really the area that we're all concerned about there being a major hazardous spill and it winding up in our water system and I know you've been working on this issue And on page 20 of this agreement, we talk about the responsibility we have regarding hazardous waste issues and contamination. But I know that's slightly different than this issue but I wanted to recognize you for your good work on that issue.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:30:52 · ≈ 10:30 AM

Thank you, Supervisor Carbajal. That's actually part of a whole package of things that we have been working on both at the county and at SBCAG with Highway 154 but particularly that issue has to do with keeping our water supply safe in Lake Kachuma so thank you for that. All right, so we have no request from the public to speak. So it looks like we have three things here in our motion. One is to rescind the prior approval from August 9th and then to approve this and execute this amended agreement and determine that it's not a project under CEQA. So do we have a motion to that effect?

All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries, thank you very much. Thank You Mr. Parker and Mr. Roney for being here. Alright we'll go ahead to departmental item number four from planning and development. Mr. Allen.

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CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:31:45 · ≈ 10:31 AM

Madam Chair members of the board I am for some planning and development it's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding amendments chapter 10 of the Santa Barbara County Code this is the building ordinance

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:31:57 · ≈ 10:31 AM

All right. Ms. Black? Madam Chair, members of the board I'm hoping this item will be as quick as the last one. This item involves amendments to the building code your board adopted at the end of 2010 to address two issues. First, the law allows local jurisdictions to amend the California Building Codes and adopt them locally with more restrictive provisions when it's necessary due to local climatic geologic or topographic conditions.

Findings as to these conditions are required to be adopted in the code. The 2010 version of the code did not include these findings. California Building Commission Standards Commission pointed this out to the department in a letter dated September 15, 2011 and the proposed language attached in the ordinances inserts these findings and would correct this deficiency.

The second reason that we're here before your board is there are two sections of the ordinance related to drainage away from buildings that we're proposing to delete since these requirements are less restrictive than state law. An additional section regarding setbacks on the Isla Vista Bluffs is also proposed to be clarified to ensure compliance with state code so this is really just a cleanup item for your Board of Supervisors and we recommend that you Determine that the adoption of the ordinance is exempt from CEQA based upon section 15061b3. That you approve this introduction of the ordinance amending chapter 10 of the County Code and continue this for a second reading to January 17th.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:33:37 · ≈ 10:33 AM

Thank you, Ms. Black. Questions from the board? Comments? Any requests to speak on this item?

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:33:43 · ≈ 10:33 AM

No, Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:33:45 · ≈ 10:33 AM

Motion to approve. Second? Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Great! Quicker even than the last one. Thank you. Alright. Moving right along. We're now at departmental item number five. Mr. Allen

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:34:05 · ≈ 10:34 AM

Madam Chair, members of the Board. Item 5 comes to the Board from the County Executive Office and the Redevelopment Agency. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a report on the California Redevelopment Agency litigation.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:34:19 · ≈ 10:34 AM

All right. Dr. Russell? Did you want to start off?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:34:28 · ≈ 10:34 AM

Good morning, Chair Farr and members of the Board of Supervisors. Today's hearing on the County of Santa Barbara Redevelopment Agency is the fourth hearing to discuss the impacts of recent legislation affecting the agency. Today's board letter specifically addresses a recent decision by the California State Supreme Court that has significant ramifications for the future of all RDAs.

We have previously discussed the two bills that affected all RDAs in the state, the first bill ABX 126 dissolved the RDA and the second ABS 127 allowed the Board of Supervisors to continue the RDA through an Alternative Voluntary Redevelopment Program, which requires certain annual payments to the State. Your board on October 4th 2011 chose to enter into the Alternative Voluntary Redevelopment Program and authorized such payments.

On July 18th, 2011 litigation was filed with the California Supreme Court challenging the legality of both ABX 126 and ABX 127. On December 29th, 2011 the California Supreme Court rendered their decision. The Supreme Court upheld almost all of ABX 126, the disillusion measure. The decision invalidated all of AB X 127, the continuation measure This means that your board's previous decision to enter into the Alternative Voluntary Redevelopment Program has been voided and unless there is new legislation, the RDA will become dissolved.

The Supreme Court's decision also revised many ABX 126 deadlines to take effect four months, in many cases later than the original legislation specified. This included extending the date on which the RDA becomes dissolved from October 1st 2011 to February 1st 2012. It also extended to January 13, 2012 the county's deadline under Health and Safety Code Section 34173D1 to elect not to serve as the successor agency to the County RDA. The board previously decided that the county would serve as the successor agency. We are providing another opportunity today to revisit that decision but we are not recommending any change to the decision previously made.

The successor agency is required to expeditiously wind down the affairs of the former RDA after February 1st, 2012 at which time the former RDA's assets are transferred to it. The successor agency is also required to dispose of those assets and make payments and perform other obligations of the former RDA. As part of these responsibilities, the successor agency must remit most unencumbered RDA fund balances and proceeds from the sale of RDA assets to the county auditor controller for distribution to local taxing entities.

The Oversight Board...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:37:26 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Wolf. Sorry to interrupt. Did I hear you say the sale of assets?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:37:34 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Wolf, yes that is correct. Not only are there unencumbered balances that will be transferred but there are assets such as properties that will need to be sold and the proceeds from those assets will be transferred to the auditor controller for distribution to the taxing entities. We own property and buildings, for example in Isla Vista.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:37:59 · ≈ 10:37 AM

So we have to sell those? I mean like for instance in Isla Vista, obviously in Isla Vista, we have projects that are in the process of being built right now. Are you saying that's one of the requirements that we sell those?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:38:15 · ≈ 10:38 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Wolk. Let me be perhaps a little clearer. The projects that are currently being constructed are private projects which the RDA assisted but are not owned by the RDA. We do, however, own a property with a former church on it and a building which is currently being used for a health clinic. Those are not under construction. They're existing. They've been there awhile. Those are assets which will be sold.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:38:42 · ≈ 10:38 AM

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Russell. This brings up another point we were talking about having a special meeting at the end of this month to get into more depth about RDA so maybe that would be the time for me to be asking these questions are we going to have that meeting?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:38:58 · ≈ 10:38 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Wolf I do address that in an upcoming slide. Okay

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:39:05 · ≈ 10:39 AM

thank you. Supervisor Carbajal

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:39:08 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. When it comes to the sale of these assets, certainly Santa Barbara County could retain those assets correct? I mean could we use contingency or general fund because we felt that was a valid and legitimate asset that we wanted to keep? Madam

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:39:29 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Chair, Supervisor Carvajal, I think I would defer to Council on that question.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:39:35 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Mr. Gascon?

CommentAllenProposed · by introduction1:39:37 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Carvajal, the responsibility of this successor agency and the Oversight Board is to ensure that the wind down in disillusioned sale and the oversight board has a fiduciary duty to the taxing entities to get the best price for those properties So it's possible for the county in an open market transaction to buy the property, but you would be bidding against other potential buyers. Thank you that's what I wanted to know.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:40:05 · ≈ 10:40 AM

Thank you. Dr. Russell go ahead and proceed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:40:09 · ≈ 10:40 AM

The oversight board will consist of seven members appointed by several entities including the Board of Supervisors. The oversight board is generally intended To supervise the activities of the successor agency and ensure that the RDA's assets are distributed to the taxing entities. The deadline for the creation of the Oversight Board has been extended to May 1st, 2012 and we will be returning to your board on an upcoming agenda for board action regarding selections to the Oversight Board membership.

Your board may choose to retain the housing assets, functions and powers previously performed by the County Redevelopment Agency upon the RDA's dissolution on February 1st 2012. The board previously chose to retain the RDA's housing assets and functions and we are recommending the same decision be made today. If the board chooses not to retain the housing assets and functions then such assets and functions will be transferred to the county of Santa Barbara Housing Authority Next steps in the dissolution process include formation of the Oversight Board by May 1, 2012.

It is also possible that there may be new legislation that could require additional board action. But we are currently unaware of any such legislation at this time that would reverse the dissolution process. In addition, we would recommend a special meeting on January 24th to allow the county to address our other RDA deadlines on or after February 1st. The nature should you approve of that special hearing, the nature of that hearing is still developing but three items which will certainly be Discussed are the creation of a redevelopment obligation retirement fund and that is retirement of debt, not retirement of people. The EOPS, it's another opportunity to review the enforceable obligation payment schedule.

And also there'll be some consideration of budget in as much as the RDA existing today has a budget and the successor agency does not have a budget so we'll be in discussions with the auditor controller about how to do that. In addition, there may be other topics we may hear from your board today about things that they would also like to hear but we felt that it would be wise to have that hearing to possibly take action on some items and certainly discuss the path forward on other items Finally, the recommendations are that the Board of Supervisors still take no action under Health and Safety Code section 34173D1 consistent with the board's action on August 9th 2011. This would allow the county to automatically become a successor agency to the County Redevelopment Agency and pursuant to Health and Safety Code 34176A adopt a resolution through which the County of Santa Barbara retains the housing assets functions and powers previously performed by the County Redevelopment Agency.

That concludes my presentation, staff is available to answer any questions that you may have. County Council is also available to answer any questions that you may have. Thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:43:22 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Thank You Dr. Russell. Counsel did you have anything you wanted to add at this point?

CommentAllenProposed · by introduction1:43:26 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Madam Chair only a housekeeping item and that is that the actual board agenda letter correctly notes that this is agendized for both the Board of Supervisors of the county in the Board of Directors of the Redevelopment Agency The printed agenda only has County Executive Office and Board of Directors, RDA. Any motion you make today would be as the board of supervisors for the county.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:43:50 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Okay, thank you. Any other questions or comments from the board at this point in time? Supervisor Lavagnino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.761:43:58 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Thank You Madam Chair I would for one speaking for everybody but I would really feel like I would need to have a look forward to another hearing prior to the first. For me it's just that for example this is the first I'm hearing about the assets. I would kind of like to need to see what the assets are that are owned, a timeline and then what's the bottom line? What's this going to mean to us? I mean, I know everybody is complaining about it but on the city side and some other areas but it almost seems like it could be a positive for the county.

I kind of wanted to see how it's gonna affect us fiscally down the road and what those impacts could be positive or negative.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:44:41 · ≈ 10:44 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Lavinino we would be happy to bring you that information.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:44:46 · ≈ 10:44 AM

As you say Supervisor Lavinino there's actually two big parts to this one is the Isla Vista Redevelopment Agency which has solely been the county's responsibility but then a report on the effects of all the RDAs throughout the county and in the cities and what this is going to mean for them and for us so Mr. Allen do we have any requests from the public to speak?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:45:09 · ≈ 10:45 AM

Excuse me, Madam Chair. I'm sorry. That's okay. I was just going to add to that that our Auditor-Controller also has some very unique roles both from the county's perspective and from all of the RDAs and we're working very closely with them as well and on the 24th will be bringing information that they can share that will address some of Supervisor Lavinino's questions

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:45:33 · ≈ 10:45 AM

Yes, so we will is it next week. We will be adding then the meeting of the 24th which should probably just be This this item for a D agenda item there may be some admin items as well But should be fairly short day, but we really did feel that it was important to have that special meeting and it is going to be It's going to be in Santa Barbara on the 24th. I think it's Santa Maria. That

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:45:58 · ≈ 10:45 AM

will

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:45:59 · ≈ 10:45 AM

be in Santa

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:46:00 · ≈ 10:46 AM

Maria.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:46:01 · ≈ 10:46 AM

So, I think it will be a Santa Maria hearing again. All right and any one request to speak? We

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:46:08 · ≈ 10:46 AM

have one request from Dr. Johns in Santa Barbara.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:46:16 · ≈ 10:46 AM

Now I would hope that the county would send this money back to the government because in the past, this money has not been used properly. In most communities, this money is used for low-income affordable housing. This money is being ripped off by this county And it's not being used in its proper format. If you were to check on it very carefully, you'll see that it's not being used properly. So I know a glitch has occurred where you may have to buy back these properties so I'm hoping that will alleviate you of your discrimination and your racism and the use of these funds. Thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:46:55 · ≈ 10:46 AM

Thank you Dr. Johns. That was the end of public comment on this item. So if there are no other questions or comments, I'll entertain a motion Second. Moved and seconded, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries the board's going to take a 10 minute break we'll be back at 11 o'clock for agenda item number nine on Los Olivos signs thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:48:00 · ≈ 10:48 AM

Thank you. Thank you. Do. Do. You. 7.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:58:12 · ≈ 10:58 AM

All right, everybody. Let's continue our meeting again with item number nine which is a time certain here for 11 o'clock. Mr. Allen?

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction1:58:22 · ≈ 10:58 AM

Madam Chair and members of the board, it's item 9. It's from Supervisor Farr. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the waiver of a double fee penalty for permitting Los Olivos sign violations and potential land use in development code amendments regarding double fee penalties and signed standards.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:58:38 · ≈ 10:58 AM

Okay, thank you. I'd like to make a few introductory comments and then I'm going to ask P&D staff to help me by putting something up on the overhead but I am bringing this item to the board because it's in my district and it was a very unusual situation in that we had somebody report numerous violations of our sign ordinance in the community of Los Olivos last July And many of the signs had been there for a long, long time.

Business owners didn't know that they were not compliant and there was many cases of very poor communication between the property owners who are the ones that are noticed on this and the business owners themselves. Once they were notified, the business owners immediately took steps to do whatever they needed to do. Our staff had a community meeting there to communicate with them directly about what was going to be required.

Now, I will be the first person to say that if somebody is committed a zoning violation willfully and is being uncooperative that there should be penalties. And certainly we have zoning enforcement costs besides the permit fees to rectify something after the fact but I do think that there are situations like this that are unique and that should be treated In a unique fashion.

And in this case, I really feel that the business owners have done everything they can to comply even though they didn't realize that there was a problem and have been cooperative with staff. So what I'm asking for today is for the board to consider waiving the double fee penalty. Now this does not waive the actual permit fee, it does not change any of these other zoning enforcement costs They will also be charged for a shared Central Board of Architectural Review hearing.

But actually I guess there's a possibility to waive it, that is a longer process. I just learned that we have the ability as a board to adjust the penalty fee downward and so that's actually what I'm going to ask the board to do not entirely waive the double fee but to adjust it down to a dollar, so that the businesses can go forward and not be unduly penalized in this case financially. As we know times are very tough for businesses across the county particularly small businesses and these are all very small businesses in Los Olivos. So staff if you'd go ahead and put the slide up.

So this is what we were talking about requires a penalty fee for after the fact authorization, but the resolution does allow adjustment or waiver for good cause. In this case I am asking for an adjustment of the penalty fee. Again do feel that there is good cause in this particular unique set of circumstances. Adjusting this doesn't reduce any of the full cost recovery for the permit processing so which is course one of our Tenants here are requirements that we want to always have full cost recovery on this and And that we would take the recommended actions, that there is good cause to adjust this.

And also I think we want to prevent this kind of a situation from happening again so that we would also direct Planning and Development to process an amendment that would provide more discretion in these cases to the P&D Director so that it doesn't just have to come to the planning commission or the board If there are certain circumstances that the director feels would allow for that kind of discretion.

And then also I think at the core is that we have a sign ordinance that is 40 years old and that causes many issues and is very hard for the public to deal with. So I really would like us to also direct staff to look at this and include it in the draft work program for our consideration when we look at what else they might want to be working on in the future, and determine that this is exempt from CEQA.

So those are my comments and I would certainly be happy to answer any questions from the rest of the board. And then, I think we have some members of the public here that might like to speak. Supervisor Wolf?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:03:46 · ≈ 11:03 AM

Thank you, Madam Chair. So I'm looking at your recommended actions and there's four items in the addendum to the board item that we have. There are three and the first one was to waive a double fee and from what I'm understanding from you is you're changing that request And instead, you're asking that we lower the fee to $1.00 and based on good cause?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:04:16 · ≈ 11:04 AM

That's correct. That's the penalty. I still would pay the regular permit.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:04:20 · ≈ 11:04 AM

OK. And I guess we'll hear after public comment but I'm very...I've talked to council about this and I've read the resolution and I think taking a step Making a finding for good cause when we don't have any. I'm not sure what the good cause is, so I'd like to hear more about that. The second part. Is maybe even is more concerning to me and I? I'm going to ask County Council about our ability to process an amendment to the LUDC today It hasn't gone through, in my opinion, proper channels. This is a huge issue in changing the Land Use and Development Code without a full hearing going to the Planning Commission.

This is an item that we got Friday afternoon. This is something that affects, you know, In particular, my community plan was developed in part because they were dependent on the current LUDC and I know that they would probably want to have a voice in any type of amendment. So if you could clarify our ability to even consider an amendment to the LUDC which seems way out of line at this point. I can see the discussion of number one, but not number two.

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CommentAllenProposed · by introduction2:06:04 · ≈ 11:06 AM

As I look at recommended action number two on the screen, that would have your board if approved by the board directing planning to process the amendment which includes review and recommendations by the Planning Commission. So within the planning and zoning law That is the term process. The amendment is actually similar to initiating, it's beginning the process of an amendment.

It's not approving an amendment. It's telling planning and development staff to draft something up, bring it through the public hearing process of the Planning Commission, and then for your board to be informed by the recommendation of the Planning Commission or planning commissions depending on where that would be effective. And then we come back to the board for final action Some months or more down the road.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:06:57 · ≈ 11:06 AM

This is just an initiation. Okay, so thank you for that Mr. Ghassani So what you're saying is we are not doing it by going with number two We are referring it back to the Planning Commission So I guess then my question is now What are we asking them to do? because Talking about the penalty fee assessment applies to everything in the LUDC, not just signs. So I don't know what then are we going to be asking the Planning Commission to do?

CommentAllenProposed · by introduction2:07:42 · ≈ 11:07 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Wolf. Your board has the option of fleshing out that recommended action but again that recommendation number two would in practical terms put in play the full public hearing, public notice, publication process but the more direction you could provide to planning and development staff would help to ensure they're on target when it goes to the Planning Commission the first time in terms of what changes your requesting them to look at?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:08:10 · ≈ 11:08 AM

So are we planning to do that today?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:08:17 · ≈ 11:08 AM

Supervisor Wolf, I think my thought here was that for this particular automatic double permit fee penalty there didn't seem to be any place in the code where either The Planning and Development Director had discretion, or the public had some sort of an appeal process to the P&D director about that. Unlike other things to do with zoning enforcement costs and all that. And so this was a way to not have this particular situation come up again whether it had to do with signs or other whereby You know, there is a zoning enforcement. The automatic double fee is charged as a penalty but again depending on the circumstances which are listed in our staff report as they're looked at in other cases would also then be able to be looked at for the penalty fee and that there would be some discretion within the department or an appeal process whereby You know, they could make some determination there as to whether it would be appropriate to waive that or reduce that for some reason.

And there just doesn't seem to be that ability now. But again this would just be to ask staff to look at that and to initiate a process and I think that you know you're absolutely right that we need to get full public input. It needs to go through the Planning Commission. Needs to be a public hearing process and it would come back to us at some point in time We find through all of that process. But it just seemed for this particular thing and this particular part of the code, that there was no ability to look at cases on a case-by-case basis and make some adjustments if the Planning Development Director thought that that was warranted.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:10:13 · ≈ 11:10 AM

And if I could just, I'll just follow up and we can hear from the public. That penalty fee assessment is as you say it doubles whatever the permit fee is but it's limited to $2,000 that's the maximum amount so someone who could theoretically have a permit fee of thousands and thousands of dollars But the penalty is only limited to $20,000 or two. To $2,000.

In my mind I'm not... If anything if I was to even consider that I would think it's best to come back through your work plan as you prioritize the items that need to be done in P&D If you believe that's one of the things we need to look at, let that be included in your work plan rather than us deciding today that that is something we think is important to go through the work plan. Personally I don't. It seems as if it has been working well.

Again, in my district it's really important to make sure that people get their permits and that there is a penalty in place. And frankly I don't think we should be taking staff time to look at that one particular piece. Doesn't mean we can't look at number one today but I really strongly feel that everything else As number three states is part of the work program. You're going to bring that to us in the work program? Well, bring number two back to us too so we can better understand what the issues are if you folks are seeing a need that we have to revise that penalty fee assessment.

Thank you Madam Chair.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:12:25 · ≈ 11:12 AM

Thank you, Supervisor Wolf. Again I think that this particular double fee penalty is particularly problematic when it comes to signs because the value of a sign may be less even than the basic permit fee much less when you go to double it And so, you know I'm certainly open to having looking at that as part of the overall look of sign standards because it is more difficult when it comes to signs perhaps than other kinds of permits that have higher value.

Supervisor Carbajal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:13:06 · ≈ 11:13 AM

Thank you, Madam Chair. You know yesterday it's sort of I feel like I'm coming full circle. Yesterday I was on a panel dealing with the National Association of Women Business Owners and they were raising issues like this. This is there was a number of them that were quite similar to this and I encourage them to get more engaged so that we could make sure that their concerns are incorporated when we consider public policy And as I did a little bit of my homework on this issue, I just couldn't help but to appreciate Supervisor Farr bringing this forward.

It's sort of one of the things that I think we get lost in our processes. We obviously always want to make sure we're transparent, accountable and accessible But we get caught up in the business as usual, and it's good to have order and process. It all makes sense to keep orderly planning and to make good decisions but I also feel that it's important to be nimble and flexible. And when we identify something as Supervisor Farr has done that clearly needs to be fixed Not only with the immediate cure, which is to reduce the violation fee here because obviously there's good faith and it certainly shows that it's very punitive the way the fee structure is structured and the way it's being applied here. But I think The way I perceive this is Supervisor Farr is not only dealing with this but trying to resolve the problem by initiating these efforts that I, as Supervisor Wolf I think raises some good concerns.

But I think they certainly could come back to us or through the process the issues, the proposed modifications could get scoped out and should be addressed in the process. But I, again having come from that meeting yesterday. I just can't help but to appreciate what I think Supervisor Farr is attempting to do here today. Again the economy is the way it is and we want to do what we can to when it makes sense ease regulation To help business owners is in this case. And I think this is an example of rolling with the punches, understanding the economy, understanding where it's onerous and coming up with common sense solutions. So I for one really appreciate what's before us and am ready to move all the items forward. I think to address Supervisor Wolf's concerns certainly they could come back or through the process We have three requests to speak, Madam Chair.

We will start in Santa Barbara with Mr. Caldwell and then come back to Santa Maria for Chris Beverly

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PresenterAndy CaldwellCOLABProposedself-stated2:16:22 · ≈ 11:16 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board. I'm Andy Caldwell representing CoLab. It's probably not going to be any surprise that I have a fundamental disagreement with Supervisor Wolf on this. I think the bottom line that you should take away from this process is a little town like Los Olivos having that many violations and yet it's considered one of those picturesque communities on the entire Central Coast Makes me ask the question, is there something wrong with the signs or is there something wrong with your sign ordinance?

Certainly Supervisor Farr recognized there's something wrong with the sign ordinance process. Especially when there's violations but I think there's also something wrong with the complaint process One person could literally cost the business community, if you weren't waving this thing, tens of thousands of dollars and yet they get to remain anonymous? Was it a competitor? Was it a serial complainant by definition?

There's a lot wrong with the business climate in this county. And part of the climate is this board has too much control. There are too many cooks in the kitchen, there are too many busybodies out in the community wrecking havoc with somebody trying to make a living. I dare anybody to walk down through the streets of Los Olivos and say this is a gaudy little community?

What was wrong with the signs I think that would be an interesting presentation. What was wrong with the signs? Why do we have an anonymous complaint process? Why do we have to go to an architectural board of review to get a sign approved? Supervisor Farr You know, I'm glad this you've taken the initiative here and I'm glad that you are willing to say we got a look at this. But there's people in Orkut that are having just as many problems and there's people in Goleta having these problems.

And in fact, not too long ago we had a big to do about signs ranch signs given the name of the ranch over an entrance to the ranch. As far as how high could they be? How ornate could they be? Can they be lighted? What what about the size of the posts? And there's this point where, when will you start to relinquish control? When will you start empowering people trying to make a living or people just trying to express their style.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:19:30 · ≈ 11:19 AM

Thank you Mr. Caldwell. Your time is up.

PresenterAndy CaldwellCOLABProposedself-stated2:19:33 · ≈ 11:19 AM

All

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction2:19:33 · ≈ 11:19 AM

right

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:19:33 · ≈ 11:19 AM

thank you. Thank you. Next speaker Mr. Allen. We're

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction2:19:37 · ≈ 11:19 AM

going to come back here to Senator Mayer for Chris Beverly followed by Evans Jones. Mr. Jones will be our final speaker.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:19:46 · ≈ 11:19 AM

Welcome.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:19:46 · ≈ 11:19 AM

Hello, thank you very much for seeing me today and taking the time we wanted to first of all Thank John Karametsos and yourself, or Supervisor Farr for working with the businesses on this application program right now. I am an attorney in Los Olivos representing a few of the applicants currently. And we both appreciate the considered changes going on with the Land Use Development Code. Our office would like to request that it be considered The sign applicants can actually submit or actually waive the submission program in the future.

Essentially rewrite the code so that there are permittable signs by themselves, essentially you have a framework of of guidelines that permits signs without the requirement for an overall sign plan of the building, and application of conformance to that sign plan. And County Board of Architectural Review further down the line. There is definitely concerns over what types of signage are going on. And I think if the code were to properly delineate permissible signs in these regions it would Essentially permit the business owners who themselves don't have quite the income to afford this double permitting fee and the C bar and all that To install signage that is compliant de facto So once again, thank you very much for your time. And we appreciate your help with the business owners at this point

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:21:27 · ≈ 11:21 AM

Thank you, thank you for being here. And again that is why we're asking for an update of the whole sign standards in that it is 40 years old and has caused frustration before now in the community and I think also with staff from time to time. Mr. Jones welcome, thank you for being here.

CommentEvans JonesProposedself-stated2:21:46 · ≈ 11:21 AM

Members of the board, I'm Evans Jones, I am an architect I'm in Los Olivos, I've been there since 1980. And I just want to thank you for your efforts of trying to accomplish this for the community and I have offered my service to go to the BAR as a community with anybody that's interested and I'll take the BAR members around town or whatever is necessary to try to get this resolved as soon as possible but we thank you for your efforts.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:22:14 · ≈ 11:22 AM

Thank you. Thank you for all of your good work. All right, we'll go ahead and bring it back to the board. As I brought this item, I don't know if there are any other comments? Supervisor Wolf and then Supervisor Lavagnino.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:22:26 · ≈ 11:22 AM

OK, I'm going to just try and stick with process and transparency because that's what we've been talking about today. And we as a board can take action on number one if we can determine that there is good cause to adjust the penalty upon a showing of good cause. That's what the resolution says and I cannot sit here and make a determination that there is good cause as Mr. Caldwell pointed out, he asked the question what is wrong with the signs?

I don't know. I don'y know what's wrong with the signs so how can I make good cause on On all of these individual complaints and maybe not everyone is complaining. Maybe they're willing to pay the penalty, I don't know but the fact is that if we're following our rules and regulations there has not been enough information presented to me to make that finding. And I understand Supervisor Farr that this is you know Is an issue in your district and now to hear that there are attorneys involved?

It's I don't you know this is taking on kind of a little bit more than Had initially been presented to me or to us When we you know, we have if people don't have a penalty to pay Then what is the incentive to get a permit? If we go ahead and waive all of these penalties to $1, how do we justify someone in our community who opens a business gets assigned but doesn't have it permitted and then comes to me next year and says well someone turned me in but I don't want to pay the penalty. We are going down a very slippery slope and we don't like to assess penalties, but this is the reality.

And if we move in this direction today it's... I think who it really hurts is that it hurts our community. I know Supervisor Farr you have constituents who Probably like in my district, we'll report residential issues. And we have staff go out and find out that they don't have a permit. They have to go through the notice of violation, they have to remedy and get a permit, and then they have to pay a penalty. Why do we have permits?

We don't just do it to make money, we do it for safety reasons as well. And so and it also gives us an opportunity to make sure and monitor what is going out in the community to make sure that we have safe signs not just how bulky and how they look. So this is I think Los Olivos is beautiful but I don't know what the signs are that they're talking about. I cannot make this determination of good cause as much as it would be great To help businesses, I think folks are very smart. They see our rules and regulations and it's up to us to follow them.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:26:14 · ≈ 11:26 AM

Thank you Supervisor Wolf. Supervisor Levin, you know?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.762:26:18 · ≈ 11:26 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. And I think it is important that if you're going to require a permit that you do have a penalty. However when you come into a situation where We have 135 illegal signs in a little tiny community. I think Mr. Caldwell did raise a good point, that there is either a problem with your signs or there's a problem with your sign ordinance. And last week I was in Los Olivos and it's a beautiful little quaint community.

I'd be very interested to see who is going around and looking for all these violations. The one thing I'm more interested in is the long-term solution, because I think we just basically have a problem with our sign ordinance. I was approached by business owners that started showing me what the cost of putting a sign over a small business by going through our permitting process and such And one guy was a haircutter and his bill was going to be in the thousands of dollars. He says, you know for me to start off a business that's a lot of haircuts just to get through that process so I can support this but I think the most important thing to me is that we take a look at what the overall sign ordinance and make sure that gets in our work program that we take another look at it.

It has been 40 years and that's where I'm at

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:27:53 · ≈ 11:27 AM

Supervisor Carbonell.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:27:55 · ≈ 11:27 AM

Thank you, I think this is an opportunity to just re-examine the entire issue and come up with some common sense approach to these issues certainly I don't want to open up the floodgates to allow Santa Barbara County to look like other counties that I visit but do not want to live in so I think it I'm not afraid of opening up the issue and seeing how we could strengthen our public policy in this regard.

And I appreciate the transparency of this public hearing, I think everything we do is transparent at these public hearings. Certainly it beats supervisors trying to work with staff behind the scenes on issues and that is, there's many examples of that. And I really appreciate that this is the forum by which we conduct our business and certainly this process is one that enables us to address these issues. You know, I'll make a motion to approve these items in moving forward I think Supervisor Wolf raises some good issues that we ought to bring back or somehow find a way of scoping them out a little bit, but I think they will be worked out through the process of the Planning Commission and whatever the process is in store with our constituents, our offices.

And at the end, we're the ones that are going to approve that public policy that comes before us in form of ordinance changes or what have you so I'm confident in the process And the transparency of our hearing today. And again, I would appreciate Supervisor Farr bringing these items before us and I'll move this item forward.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:29:33 · ≈ 11:29 AM

Thank you Supervisor Carball. Supervisor Gray?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:29:35 · ≈ 11:29 AM

My question is to Council. Would you just restate one more time what a good cause is

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:29:45 · ≈ 11:29 AM

Actually, Supervisor Gray if I could go ahead and make a couple of comments. And then if Council wants to weigh in because I did want to respond to that specifically. So why I think that there is good cause here is first I think it's a very unique set of circumstances That we have a situation that combined with the fact that our sign ordinance has not been updated for such a long time, it is very confusing.

Combined with the fact that our zoning enforcement is complaint driven so that we have a situation where these signs have been in place for a very long time And nobody knew that they didn't conform, it's not like somebody coming in with a new project and a new sign that deliberately didn't follow the rules and then was reported on. I think particularly for signs because their value tends to be low, when you double a penalty on a sign That it's really out of proportion to the value of the permit, as Supervisor Labagnino was talking about.

I think that also there is good cause because the businesses involved responded immediately and positively and cooperatively to correcting the violation and working with staff, and also because these are tough economic times particularly for small businesses. And we have certainly taken actions as a board to understand that situation and extend permits and extend hardship situations. So those are some of my comments for good cause.

All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? No. Motion carries four to one, thank you very much I think we have time for one more item here before we have to break for lunch and close session So we will go back now to item number six which is a briefing on the Rice Ranch proposed revised project Mr. Allen

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CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction2:32:01 · ≈ 11:32 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board. This item six for planning and development is a hearing to receive and follow report on processing issues for the Rice Ranch proposed revised project.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:32:15 · ≈ 11:32 AM

All right. Ms. Black? Madam Chair, members of the board. We're here today to provide a briefing on the Rice Ranch project. The briefing will include...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:32:29 · ≈ 11:32 AM

Can you go to the next slide?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:32:32 · ≈ 11:32 AM

A discussion of the temporary entry permit issue that came up at your last hearing. The process steps to date that we've been through on the proposed revised project, the next steps in processing the project and then the relationship to the inclusionary housing ordinance. Just a tiny bit of background at your last meeting of 2011 Your board accepted the fee dedication of open space and trail easements at Rice Ranch. At that hearing, your board directed staff to prepare this briefing.

The first issue I want to discuss is the temporary entry permit issue. At your board hearing on December 12th, the Rice Ranch applicant expressed concern about their ability to access portions of the now county-owned open space areas necessary to complete construction of the Rice Ranch project and to make improvements required by their project conditions. Immediately following the hearing, staff met with the applicant and their agent to discuss obtaining a temporary entry permit to allow access to the county-owned property.

Since then I provided the applicant and the agent with contact information for general services staff and an example of an entry permit so I think we've identified the appropriate path for gaining entry to the now county owned property. With respect to the Rice Ranch revised project, I've provided you a fairly detailed chronology in the board agenda letter.

We began discussions with Rice Ranch and with the applicant and owner in October of 2010. They were interested in looking at some revisions to the approved project that would address some economic issues involved with the project. The proposed project requires a number of applications including amendments to the Orchid Community Plan, to the Rice Ranch Specific Plan, to the Development Agreement the Board of Supervisors approved when the project was originally approved, to the development plans and two tract maps.

These applications also rely on a change in the county's inclusionary housing policy which is in process by the Long Range Planning Division of the department These, the applicants submitted applications in December of 2010 which were found incomplete through sort of an informal process in January of 2011. And the Planning Commission did initiate the Orchid Community Plan amendments at their hearing on March 9th, 2011.

Immediately following your board's hearing in December, the applicant made their second resubmittal of the project on December 13th P&D staff primarily, Mr. Dzorovich have been working diligently with the applicant to provide feedback in the intervening almost month including a week's worth of furlough and holiday time to provide feedback on their submittal and we do expect to find the application complete with advisories in the next day or so.

Additional information regarding improvements to a secondary access road will be needed before the application processing through environmental review can occur. So there is some information we need but we are prepared to call the application complete. Remaining process steps, we need to formally determine that the application is complete and as I indicated that will happen in the next day or so then we'll commence environmental review.

We expect to update the environmental analysis that was prepared for the original project to reflect the increase 14 units that's proposed by the project. We also expect to analyze greenhouse gas impacts which were not previously analyzed. We will also be taking the project forward again to the Subdivision Development Review Committee to formalize condition recommendations to the North Board of Architectural Review for their review and analysis. We'll provide a staff analysis and staff report To support the Planning Commission Board of Supervisors hearing process.

When the Planning Commission initiated that Orchid Community Plan requirements last March, they did make it abundantly clear that the revised project would need to be consistent with the county inclusionary housing requirements and those have changed since the original project approval and are undergoing update right now. When the project was approved, the housing element required 10% of the units be affordable at moderate income levels. And that's in the Santa Maria market area and in lieu fee payments were allowed by the housing element however The project as approved was conditioned to require 10% affordable units at market income levels, and those were to be provided on site. 10% affordable units at workforce income levels, and that was a offer the applicant made, provided on site.

And of particular note, the Orchid Community Plan and the Rice Ranch Specific Plan require all affordable units for this project area to be provided onsite. The current housing element requirements include a requirement in the Santa Maria Housing Market Area for 5% of the housing units to be provided at very low income levels, 5% at low-income levels and 10% at moderate income levels.

The proposed revised project includes Payment of in-lieu fees for 5% at very low, income levels and 5% at low. And the provision of 76 units in the Pine Creek neighborhood as affordable by design units with no deed restriction. That proposal is inconsistent with the current housing element policy. Which provides a nice segue into what's going on with the Inclusionary Housing Ordinance.

At the Board's direction, the Department is working on an update of the Inclusionary Housing Program through development of an Inclusionary Housing Ordinance. The schedule for this project is shown on the screen. We expect to release a draft ordinance for public review no later than March of this year We expect the public review process to extend into June of 2012, including a state HCD review.

Environmental review will occur in June and July of 2012 with planning commission hearings in August and September, and the board hearings in October-November tied in frame. The Rice Branch project is tied to both the schedule of this inclusionary housing ordinance as well as outcome of the ordinance. That is, the Rice Ranch Project would need to be consistent with the yet-to-be determined requirements in the Inclusionary Housing Ordinance.

We certainly understand that the economic realities of this project have made it difficult for the applicant to provide affordable housing consistent with their specific plan and project conditions. And we have discussed over several months, the option of allowing additional construction of market rate units in advance of the board's consideration of the changes in inclusionary housing policy This would require an amendment to the Rice Ranch specific plan and project conditions as the project conditions are, and specific plan are quite specific as to the timing of provision of affordable units in relation to the market rate units. Those discussions occurred in March and April of 2011 and today we haven't received an application so there is a path but it's not a path that's been followed yet With that, I conclude my report and I'm happy to answer any questions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:40:46 · ≈ 11:40 AM

Thank you Ms. Black. Supervisor Carvajal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:40:48 · ≈ 11:40 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. This has parallels with the previous hearing as well. You know these are difficult economic times and I certainly appreciate the developer asking for changes. I guess the only question I have is If we make these modifications, but then the project doesn't get built sooner rather than later and the economy picks up in three or four years and it's a rosy picture and we don't make progress on this. Should we revisit then and default back to the original agreement?

I guess my only thinking is do these changes allow us to give that relief but yet allow the project to be built immediately or soon thereafter? Is there a timeline to induce in light of this friendly modification for that housing to be built, understanding the climate. Because if we do this now and then for all the bad reasons we don't get anything built but six years from now the economy's raging again and you got the relief and you know we had to wait all these years to really get this stock for those affordable needs in the community so that's the only thing that comes to mind

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:42:03 · ≈ 11:42 AM

Madam Chair and Supervisor Carbajal, I think that's really the issue that's central in the policy development for the Inclusionary Housing Ordinance. Your board directed that we both look at that policy and translate it into an ordinance to take it out of the housing element put it into a more flexible form, an ordinance form, and we're really struggling with how to deal with fluctuations in the economy in relation to provision of affordable housing units. So I think that's why these two processes are so intertwined is we really need to deal with the policy issue first and then apply it to the project.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:42:46 · ≈ 11:42 AM

Supervisor Lavagnino, you want to hear from the public? Supervisor Gray this is in your district. You want to wait? All right well we'll go ahead and go to the public then. Mr. Allen requests to speak

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction2:42:58 · ≈ 11:42 AM

I don't have a slip. I see Ms. Tamora out there, but I don't have a slip.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:43:02 · ≈ 11:43 AM

Ms. Tamora did you want to speak? All right and you could submit

PresenterLori TamoraJim Meloza from the Rice Ranch Ventures and Brad Bickle from Wallace Group who iProposedself-stated2:43:05 · ≈ 11:43 AM

a speaker slip afterwards then. Oh, I'm sorry. Thank you my name is Lori Tamora. I am here with Jim Meloza from the Rice Ranch Ventures and Brad Bickle from Wallace Group who is the engineer on the project. I hope that the board members received a copy of our letter providing some background to the project. This letter outlined the fact that Rice Ranch has been a part of the community, this has been an ongoing process.

We've met our conditions for everything throughout even this difficult economic time. Including the community park which had a grand opening in March of 2009. And the new water tank, road improvements signals and we did build 65 units and sold some of them most of them The biggest issue that we have right now is the fact that the economy has substantially changed. Financing is very difficult and we are looking at trying to design a project that will meet the new market.

The trend is now to look at smaller units, smaller homes. Single story seems to be the hottest item for the market And we have gone through a long iteration, not only with staff but with marketing experts and looking at what the product type would be. We are looking forward to the information from staff as far as the complete process. We did go to Subdivision Committee review back in July or actually in April And had a number of conditions that came out. If you read my letter, the most important elements were that the Roads Division does not want to have public roads any longer. Parks Department doesn't want the parks. They don't wanna maintain the slopes and so what we're looking at is we redesigned the project to eliminate some of that public infrastructure to absorb it into the Homeowners Association by doing that They substantially reduced the cost of this project to the county over the long future of this project.

Secondarily, we did work with staff early on in regards to how to expand and postpone the addressing of the affordable housing units. There was a memorandum understanding that the board approved back in 2007 that allowed for 75 of the units to be built prior to the affordable unit condition being met. We did have an offer by staff to process the affordable provision again as a specific plan amendment.

At that time, the Inclusionary Housing Ordinance was supposed to be released in April and May of last year. And so we wanted to see what the ordinance provisions were going to be brought forward so we could see how this would work as far as what the rules of the game were. So we've been running kind of parallel waiting to see the Inclusionary Ordinance come out so we know what the rules of the game were And that hasn't happened. So we now have a specific plan amendment and with staff, staff is offering to move our I do need to say one more thing in response to Supervisor Carbajal's question. Whatever we do, With the affordable housing, it will be a win-win for the county.

You will get affordable units. We will pay fees or we will be working with a non-profit. We will be doing construction of affordable units. You will see successes in the housing programs. It may not necessarily be on the Bryce Ranch property but the county will get the money The non-profits will be able to build the units and there will be a diversity of housing types in this county.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:47:18 · ≈ 11:47 AM

Thank you, Ms. Tumara. I gave you an extra minute there. All right any other requests to speak from the public? No

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction2:47:23 · ≈ 11:47 AM

Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:47:24 · ≈ 11:47 AM

Anybody

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:47:24 · ≈ 11:47 AM

else here? Ms. Black? Madam Chair if I could just make one clarification Just about the last slide I spoke to was an offer that we made to try and address this timing issue on provision of affordable units. We can't process the specific plan amendment requests we have in now, and the development plan requests we have in now. What we were talking about is a separate simple specific plan amendment condition modification change in advance of the whole revised project. So I just wanted to make it clear that we aren't talking about advancing the applications we have in now, but processing a very simple one that changes the timing on the provision of affordable units if that would provide the applicant with the flexibility to provide some additional market rate units while we're working through the revisions to the project.

So, I just want to make that clear.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:48:23 · ≈ 11:48 AM

Thank you Ms. Black. Supervisor Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:48:26 · ≈ 11:48 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. So Ms. Black, there's a project that is moving through the process in my district. Could you foresee that any decision we make today on this project might have an impact on that project? In other words giving that developer then the opportunity to pursue in lieu fees rather than building affordable units

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:48:58 · ≈ 11:48 AM

Madam Chair and Supervisor Wolf, I'm not sure exactly which project you're talking about. It doesn't really matter. But if a project's being processed right now and it's going through the decision-making process, it needs to be found consistent with the housing element that's in effect today. So whatever that is, and the requirements in the South Coast Housing Market Area are different than the requirements in the Santa Maria Housing Market Area, we would have to meet those, and we'd be conditioned to meet those.

If your board subsequently approved an inclusionary housing ordinance that changed those requirements, the applicant of the project you're referring to could come back in and request that the board modify their conditions of approval consistent with that newly adopted inclusionary housing policy. And we've seen that in the past.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:49:49 · ≈ 11:49 AM

Okay so it would have to be adopted not the anticipated adoption? Correct

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:49:55 · ≈ 11:49 AM

Thank you. Supervisor Lavagnino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.762:49:57 · ≈ 11:49 AM

Madam Chair, Ms. Black that's one of the questions I have but we'll get to that one but so kind of looking at the letter that came from Rice Ranch it looks like what they're requesting is the project completeness the letter completeness which we've agreed is going to happen and we fast-tracked the environmental review because it's already been done back in 2003 but now we're adding a few other elements because of the fact that we're increasing the size of the project Project size is increasing very minimally. I mean, 14 homes out of 700 and something so...

I guess what we really get down to the nuts and bolts. And for me when I look at this as affordable housing in Santa Maria now things have changed considerably from when this project was approved. All you have to do is look at the listings in Santa Maria and anybody out there that wants to buy a house right now can buy a very affordable house in Santa Maria. I'm trying to get my kids to buy houses in Santa Maria right now So I guess what this really comes down to is how do we get the project moving when we have the housing element still in the bakery.

So how do you best see that? Is it with that specific plan amendment that's still required from the developer?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:51:17 · ≈ 11:51 AM

Madam Chair and Supervisor Labadino, yes I think the only way to provide relief in the interim while the Inclusionary Housing Ordinance is under development and consideration by the Planning Commission of the Board. And while we're processing the permits for the larger Rice Ranch project which will be held up by that inclusionary housing ordinance potentially is for them to do a more targeted Amendment to their project to allow a change in timing of the affordable and market rate units And as I said, we've been discussing that for some time.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.762:51:52 · ≈ 11:51 AM

And what's the pathway for that? So a specific plan amendment comes in what? What's the timeline of something like that? How does that work?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:52:01 · ≈ 11:52 AM

I think we put, excuse me, Madam Chair and Supervisor Lavagnino. I believe that back in April-May we put together a time frame and it was relatively quick. I mean it was months not years but I can't recite

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.762:52:15 · ≈ 11:52 AM

exactly what it is. I guess my question is we're looking at the element being completed in October-November. Is this specific plan amendment pathway shorter than if we waited around for, okay?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:52:30 · ≈ 11:52 AM

Madam Chair and Supervisor Lavinino, it's more certain. So not only is it shorter but I think it's also more certain because once we enter into the policy realm sometimes it takes longer than we anticipate so I think the inclusionary housing ordinance timeline is what we intend but it may take longer depending on how the Planning Commission deals with the issue and how your board deals with the issue

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.762:52:58 · ≈ 11:52 AM

All right, thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:52:59 · ≈ 11:52 AM

you. Any other questions or comments? This is just to receive this report. I'd

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.762:53:07 · ≈ 11:53 AM

like to make a motion to receive the report.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:53:09 · ≈ 11:53 AM

Thank you. Second? Second. All right. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. Thank you very much. We're going to break for lunch and go into closed session and we should be back at Mr. Marshall. How long do you think close session? An hour? An hour and a half? Probably be back around 1 o'clock to finish up the agenda with items 7 and 8. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:54:25 · ≈ 11:54 AM

She stood.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:40:30 · ≈ 12:40 PM

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed3:41:00 · ≈ 12:41 PM

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed3:47:48 · ≈ 12:47 PM

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:06:55 · ≈ 1:06 PM

All right, everybody. Let's bring this meeting back to order again and we're taking up our departmental agenda with item number seven from Public Works. Mr. Allen would you read that into the record please?

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction4:07:06 · ≈ 1:07 PM

Madam Chair, members of the Board, Item 7 from Public Works is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the public right-of-way special events permits

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:07:15 · ≈ 1:07 PM

Thank you. Good afternoon, Mr. McAuliffe.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed4:07:17 · ≈ 1:07 PM

Yes, good afternoon Madam Chair and Board Members. As the Court mentioned, Public Works is before you today to hold a public meeting and also conduct a public hearing on an ordinance amending Chapter 28 of the County Code pertaining to public right-of-way special event permits. Now a special event means an activity that uses the right-of-way in a manner that the right-of way is not intended for or does not comply with traffic regulations, or may prevent, obstruct, or delay other members of the public from using that right-o-way.

Currently the department does not charge a fee for permits that we issue and one of the items that we also included in today's actions is for your board to approve the department achieving full cost recovery in this area. Our presentation today will cover the following areas you see on the screen. We'll touch on current special event programs and the permit process that we have in Public Works.

We'll touch on impacts of special events, specifically to the traveling public as well as financial impacts today to Public Works. In 2011 alone, we expended over $20,000 administering and issuing these permits And then we'll spend some time reviewing the highlights of the ordinance that's before you today for your approval, and then we'll close on a summary of the presentation and the recommendations.

Public Works presentation today will be given by Mr. Chris Sneddon. He is our Interim Deputy Director of Transportation. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:08:52 · ≈ 1:08 PM

Thank you. Welcome, Mr. Sneddon.

GuestLavagninoProposed · by introduction4:08:55 · ≈ 1:08 PM

Thanks, thanks Scott. I'll start with a little apology about the typos but that's impacts and ordinance at the top there on the banner. I'm not sure why it looks like that on the computer. As Scott said, we'll start with the current program for special event permits. These photos give you kind of a feel for some of the events we give permits for. It can be anything from small events that just take a little piece of a sidewalk up through farmers markets and festivals and then all the way up to things like International Marathon or the Amgen Tour bike race.

We issued 60 permits in 2011. They're all up here just to kind of browse through if you look at just the names of them it gives again a feel for the wide variety of permits that we issue and Next slide, sorry. And the reason that we issued these permits is because well number one people have a right to gather in public places including the road right of way but also because special events are a great benefit to the community they promote health and wellness they promote a sense of community they encourage tourism so they have a lot of benefits as they do provide The permits for special events in the road right-of-way have kind of three stages to them. There's the application and processing stage, then there's actual permit event and then lastly the follow up after the event to kind of debrief and see what could be done better and make adjustments and make sure that everything is cleaned up and left the way that it was when they got there.

Special events have a couple of impacts. The main impact is that the staff time it takes for us to process these special events and to do these three stages of the permits. As I said, we did 60 permits last year which totals about 300 hours or over $22,000 and all that cost was borne by the county. So that's a major impact to the financial operations that we do. The second impact that these events can have is an inconvenience to public, people who are not participating in the event but are trying to get through the area as well as the public safety and convenience of the people that are participating in the event.

So the ordinance is really designed to address primarily those two things, cost recovery and then setting a standard and formalized rules for the permit, for those three stages of the permit. And it gives us increased control for all three of those phases so that we can make sure everything's as safe and efficiently run as possible. And it's worth noting that by full cost recovery, we're only trying to recover fees at no more than the average required to cover costs. So we're not trying to generate money or anything like that.

So in regard to that first point of cost recovery, we've broken the permits down into five category types that we issue. You can see from the costs sort of a level of effort that these permits require to issue and to follow up on. Over-the-counter would be a really small event that has very little impact to our staff time. Then it goes up through smaller events and B&Cs start getting into road closures, trafficking control plan, things like that.

And they'll require more monitoring during the event and also more followup.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:12:37 · ≈ 1:12 PM

Yes. You may be covered, Madam Chair? Yes, Supervisor Gray. You may be covered this in another slide or something but do these fees include... I mean you're not the only department that gets... We talked about it at gender review and I understood that all the departments were kind of involved in this and so now I'm lost if it's just...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed4:12:58 · ≈ 1:12 PM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Gray. We're really one spoke in the bigger wheel. The next item that's going to come up is the one coming from the CEO's office that includes a kind of a communication protocol and a process if you will for special events and public works issues special events for the event in the road right away. Parks could be involved, P&E could be involved, other departments could be involved and they would have their own associated fees as

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:13:23 · ≈ 1:13 PM

well. So just let's take that $200. Does that, that is strictly what it costs public works. It's not what it costs parks or the CEO's office or anything else just public works.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed4:13:37 · ≈ 1:13 PM

Madam Chair Supervisor Gray that's correct.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:13:38 · ≈ 1:13 PM

Okay thanks

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GuestLavagninoProposed · by introduction4:13:42 · ≈ 1:13 PM

Okay. And to that point, if you break the dollars down or sort of a conversion to hours, if you figure about $75-$100 per hour, that gives you a feel for how much staff time is required to issue and administer these permits? And that's why when you get to D on the larger events, we build those based on the actual staff time required. Those events can have widely varying amounts of time commitment that is required so the most efficient way to recover costs is just to build actuals for those.

The last one is the recurring events which is things like farmer's market where they will come in annually, pay that fee annually and get any updates that we have to the permit. And that will cover issuing that permit and then kind of checking in throughout the year on any changes that need to be made.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:14:30 · ≈ 1:14 PM

I have another question. Yes Supervisor Gray? On large events based on staff time, I wrote down that it would be 75 hours. Is that what you're going to consider?

GuestLavagninoProposed · by introduction4:14:41 · ≈ 1:14 PM

That's the average. It depends on which staff is involved in administering and monitoring the permit, so that's kind of an average.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:14:51 · ≈ 1:14 PM

So a large event wouldn't really know what they're being billed at?

GuestLavagninoProposed · by introduction4:14:58 · ≈ 1:14 PM

We make educated estimate based on a lot of these events, especially the larger ones are recurring events every year. So we have a decent idea of how much it's going to be. So we start out with that amount and then as an estimate for them so they have a pretty rough idea of what it's going to be and then we just bill against it

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:15:18 · ≈ 1:15 PM

So if a constituent said, Joni we want to have a large event. How much is it going to cost me? I'd say it depends on staff time and they say well how much is staff time and I say somewhere around $75 an hour. Is that the right answer for me to give?

GuestLavagninoProposed · by introduction4:15:37 · ≈ 1:15 PM

That could be one. The best thing is probably for, Gary Smart is here who's kind of the architect and the operator of our special events permits process. The best thing to do would be to hook them up with Gary and he can probably, because these large events are so unique in the situations that they're dealing with and what kinds of areas they're working in and everything else The best way to get the most concrete answer to that question is to have them talk to Gary and he can give them an estimate. That's the best way to start off a process like that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed4:16:12 · ≈ 1:16 PM

Thank you, Madam Chair. The way I see this is that this is one vehicle by which to formalize our process not only for cost recovery but to be able to as one spoke as Mr. McLaughlin said bring in these efforts into the fall that we're going to consider in the next item what was happening before We were a little discombobulated and obviously one very big event in the first district really raised those issues which led to us building on top of even this item, which is the item that we're going to consider next. But is that my understanding? Do I have it correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed4:16:50 · ≈ 1:16 PM

This is one piece of that overall process and the communication protocol in the process to ensure all departments are speaking with one voice when it comes to special events.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed4:17:01 · ≈ 1:17 PM

So, in the future if people access the public works spoke or the sheriff spoke or some other spoke, it would lend itself to all these different departments addressing their part?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed4:17:18 · ≈ 1:17 PM

Chair Supervisor, that's correct. What we're doing as part of

the next item is showing how all those folks will come together and the anticipated plan is that if any of those folks are contacted they know how to bring in the entire group which will be headed by our Community Services Director so that's the sort of communication we want to ensure that we have throughout the organization.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed4:17:42 · ≈ 1:17 PM

Thank you Madam Chair, just to conclude and what this item or the next item does not do is touch on the private event issue ordinance that is currently being addressed via the Planning Commission's process. That's going to come to us later correct? And I want to clarify that because I know the Montecito Association wrote A letter, they said item eight but they made a lot of reference to the right away item which is item seven. It was a little overlapping in both items and the clarity I want to provide is that the private event issue is still being addressed through the ordinance consideration that the commission is currently bringing before them and then it'll come to the Board of Supervisors in the future correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed4:18:34 · ≈ 1:18 PM

Chair, Supervisor yes that's correct. And just to elaborate on that just a little bit most of the private events will have some impact on the public facilities as well and again that will loop these all together both private and public events. Supervisor Wolf.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:18:52 · ≈ 1:18 PM

Thank you. You know just to address what Supervisor Carbajal said because I was looking at this list that you have and there are some private events listed. But as you point out, CEO Waller that the only reason that they're listed in here is because it impacts the roadways or the public right of way. So really we're just talking about, as you've said, public works recovery of fees and we've seen this a lot in the South County where You folks have been doing a lot of work, Mr. Smart in particular has done a lot of work with organizations and other jurisdictions and we had no mechanism for cost recovery fees so I think it's good that we're having this discussion on this proposed ordinance and I just want to thank you all for pulling it together.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:19:51 · ≈ 1:19 PM

Thank you, Supervisor Wolf. And I also see it as a way of Public Works now being able to have full cost recovery in the same way that other county departments that are involved in any kind of a special event permit process are whether it's environmental health or planning and development or parks or whatever have always had their fees in place and for whatever reason Public Works has not had it. So would you go ahead and continue the presentation then?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed4:20:18 · ≈ 1:20 PM

Well, Madam Chair I think at this point we're pretty much concluded with the presentation. The recommendations are shown on the screen and if I may for a moment just echo Mr. Sneddon's comments on Mr. Smartin and his staff member Alyssa Palumbo they do a fantastic job administering the special events permit process for us and they'll do a fantastic job in the future as well thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:20:41 · ≈ 1:20 PM

Thank you Madam Chair. One of the items that I saw on our list here is the Hollister

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction4:20:44 · ≈ 1:20 PM

Elementary

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed4:20:44 · ≈ 1:20 PM

Halloween

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction4:20:45 · ≈ 1:20 PM

Parade,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:20:45 · ≈ 1:20 PM

which I've participated in and it is literally just a

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:21:02 · ≈ 1:21 PM

The

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed4:21:02 · ≈ 1:21 PM

witch. Just kidding, Pollyanna. Either one I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed4:21:05 · ≈ 1:21 PM

could go either way but it was just a little loop around the school and I would hate to see them be charged for something like that and I'm guessing

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:21:31 · ≈ 1:21 PM

Or hoping that they fall within the exemption group. Because the other thing I noticed is that it's some of what you have is based on the number of people rather than the time that, you know, the right-of-way would be used and in this case, I think it's maybe a half hour at most but you may have more than 40 kids walking so how would you handle that?

GuestLavagninoProposed · by introduction4:22:05 · ≈ 1:22 PM

I think that would fall under the exemptions and the main thing that we look at is if there's an activity that delays the members of the public or uses a right away in a manner that it's not intended to be used. So when you're walking, if they're walking just very walking I presume along the sidewalks around the school mostly. Well actually not so much. They

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed4:22:24 · ≈ 1:22 PM

do walk a little bit on the street. Double fine, triple fine. And we don't do penalties anymore. Supervisor

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.764:22:32 · ≈ 1:22 PM

Wolk, you could always sponsor it. Sponsor the permit.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed4:22:39 · ≈ 1:22 PM

Well I'm just curious

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:22:43 · ≈ 1:22 PM

and I bring it up again because there's you know the time issue Seems

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed4:22:48 · ≈ 1:22 PM

like

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:22:48 · ≈ 1:22 PM

that would

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed4:22:48 · ≈ 1:22 PM

be

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:22:48 · ≈ 1:22 PM

relevant.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed4:22:49 · ≈ 1:22 PM

Madam Chair and Supervisor, we'll certainly take a look at it when it comes in because I'm sure there's going to be these little special cases throughout the county and we could spend some time working with those groups. Okay

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:23:01 · ≈ 1:23 PM

thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:23:04 · ≈ 1:23 PM

All right so if there are no other questions or comments I'll entertain a motion on this item. Motion? No public comment. And there is a second? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? None, motion carries. Thank you very much.

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction4:23:23 · ≈ 1:23 PM

Madam Chair before we

move on to item number eight could we get a closed session from County Council?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:23:29 · ≈ 1:23 PM

Oh yes thank you. We need a report from closed session.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed4:23:34 · ≈ 1:23 PM

Thank you Madam Chair. In today's closed session, you had one item of existing litigation. You held that item and there was no reportable items. You also had noticed an anticipated litigation deciding to initiate. That closed session was not held. Your next item was conference with labor negotiator employer relations. That closed session was held. And then you had public employee performance evaluation, which was held. There are no reportable actions from any of your closed session items.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:24:06 · ≈ 1:24 PM

Thank you Mr. Marshall. All right so we'll go on to departmental item number eight.

CommentMs. Ruth PresidentProposed · by introduction4:24:12 · ≈ 1:24 PM

Madam Chair and members of the board, Item 8 is from the County Executive Office's hearing to consider recommendations regarding this special event coordination process.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed4:24:20 · ≈ 1:24 PM

Thank you Chairwoman. What we have before you today is a result of some events over the last several months that were held which weren't necessarily in compliance with what all of our different departments have as far as regulations. And, as a part of the lessons learned hot wash review of those we determined that probably the biggest issue we had was communication among the various departments that we ensured that the Sheriff and Public Works and Planning and Development and Environmental Health And others who may need to be involved with any particular event. Sometimes people came in at one of those locations and their permits were issued somewhat in a vacuum, not recognizing the need for communication and collaboration and coordination among the various departments.

So as a result of that our staff moved forward on putting together a process for your consideration today, which its main thing is to ensure that communication and collaboration and coordination. It's not intended to change the different ordinances that each department has regarding their regulations, regarding their fees, it's really more to get that coordination Certainly this is a step that we hope will address those lessons learned that we found from the various events. But over the next several months and possibly even longer, we're going to continue to look at what do we need to do have the effect we're hoping for so that everyone knows what the permits they need, what the regulations are and all the departments are talking. Certainly if we determine during the next several months that we continue to have issues or there's some needs to have regulations adjusted will be bringing those forward but we really thought the first step was to talk to each other versus trying to solve it with elaborate enforcement ordinances Or things such as that nature.

So that said, I've asked Dennis to kick us off and go through what our process will be. And I know that he's got Diane here there may be some questions that you have related to private events and I believe we also have some others in the audience from various departments but if you have specific questions they're here to answer those for you. So Dennis? Thank you.

CommentHollister ParadeProposed4:26:51 · ≈ 1:26 PM

CEO Waller. So real brief, I want to recognize and thank a number of folks who came together to help in the development of this policy, primarily planning and development staff, public works staff, public health, fire department, and I know Deputy Chief Hahn is here in the audience today, as well as the Sheriff's Department along with a lot of support from County Council really helped us to bring this policy from the CEO's office forward for today.

So as Charter just mentioned we really are talking about two primary types of events special events as they exist out there and as we've noted both in the previous agenda item And in Chandra's comments, there are these events that occur on private property that do require planning permits. That is something that happens out there. What this policy is primarily focusing on is the second group of these events that don't necessarily require planning permits but do have this impact on the public right-of-ways. And what I'd like to do at this moment is just stop here and ask Diane just to comment briefly about the planning process for the rest of that private property reconsideration of that policy, that actually the Montecito Association raised in a memo that we received two days ago.

Ms.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed4:28:15 · ≈ 1:28 PM

Black? Madam Chair, members of the board. Thank you as your board probably remembers when we brought the general ordinance amendment package to you in the fall We did not bring the temporary or special events piece from planning and development from the Planning Commission. We've been working over quite a few months with the Planning Commission to try and address some issues with Planning special event permit process both the ministerial permits and discretionary permits, but primarily discretionary We got pretty far But not far enough to make a recommendation To your board so we'll be working with the planning commission in the coming couple of months to firm up a recommendation I believe will be preparing a specialized application for Special events that is a conditional use permit, special event application.

So it's really streamlined and targeted towards special events. We'll be bringing that to your board hopefully before the end of this fiscal year. Our ordinances do provide for the same sort of coordination that the CEO's policy does as well so I think really what we're trying to make sure is no matter where a special event comes into the county That it's handled in a coordinated fashion by all the departments. And I think we pretty much have that on the planning permits and so what we're really trying to do, I think through this item today is to ensure that communication and coordination occurs on those permits that can come in through public health, the fire department and other places.

CommentHollister ParadeProposed4:30:00 · ≈ 1:30 PM

Thank you. So, I think that spoke and hub analogy that we've been using both in the previous item and now in this item as well is a really apt metaphor for what we're talking about here. That really there are these multiple doorways or pathways into this process but that really the goal in all of this is to bring forward a process that allows us to work together in that hub type fashion that allows then all these other pieces to do their work effectively. So one of our goals in this policy was really to improve efficiency. One of the things that a lot of our customers who are folks that are seeking these permits have said to us is that it can be kind of confusing and convoluted, that if I start down at one spoke for example, one pathway And then I don't find out until fairly far down the process that I also need another type of permit as well.

We're going to help people through this coordinated effort that this policy establishes, we're going to help people to navigate that process so that by working together internally, we actually better serve the public for the folks that are receiving these permits. The other thing it does is it really does improve the accountability through identifying various factors in their plans that we need to take into consideration. So that if somebody, if we begin to look interdepartmentally and interdisciplinarily at particular events, we can begin to identify what are the kinds of things that we need to be able to bring for example fire or public health or one of our other departments to engage in that process and it really does improve the accountability of our individual organizations.

As I mentioned before, it really does increase our customer focus. One of the things that we really wanted to do is, is to make sure that we're really clear about this. That there really are no new requirements from the public's perspective in this. All of the requirement is on us as an organization and for our department leadership to act in a coordinated fashion to cooperate with one another and to communicate as the public brings forward their permit requests.

In order to facilitate that, the person who we're going to put at the hub of this is our Community Services Director Herman Parker. And Herman's got a great deal of experience coordinating at the city level exactly these kinds of events that we're talking about, these large multidisciplinary events. So Mr. Parker will be the lead person convening this coordination group and making sure that they're working together and have open dialogue between one another.

Really, it's going to be then the major task that Herman will have and each individual member will have will be making sure that they're bringing their proper information to the table for discussion and decision-making. Looking at all the factors for consideration. And then I think lastly this group will also do a lot of self evaluation. So how can we improve this process over time? It's not just enough to put a policy in place today, if you accept the recommendation. But it is really a question about how do we continue to improve this process as time goes on.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:33:10 · ≈ 1:33 PM

Next question. Supervisor Gregg. Thank you. I was asking the public works folks about charges. I mean are... The rest of you are working for free?

CommentHollister ParadeProposed4:33:25 · ≈ 1:33 PM

Madam Chair and Supervisor Gray, no. All of the other permitting departments so for example public health or the sheriff's or fire department they already have by ordinance their individual fee structures established and approved by your board All of those fees will continue to remain in place. The one question that could remain, and I'll take your question maybe the next half a step past where you asked would be that if this extra coordination effort took an enormous amount of time let's say or took some additional amount of time Is that now reflected in those fees? So, have we factored into our fees and that will be a decision that certainly the coordinating group under Mr. Parker's leadership can take into account and then as they bring back fee update ordinances to your board they could factor in this additional coordination time if it is indeed a factor.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:34:21 · ≈ 1:34 PM

So just take me through the process. I want to have a large event and I call the county supervisor and I say, Joni, I want to have a large event in the county. I say call Mr. Smart.

CommentHollister ParadeProposed4:34:35 · ≈ 1:34 PM

Right.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:34:35 · ≈ 1:34 PM

That's all I do.

CommentHollister ParadeProposed4:34:36 · ≈ 1:34 PM

So that would be, that would be exactly what you would need to do as a supervisor.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:34:40 · ≈ 1:34 PM

And then what happens?

CommentHollister ParadeProposed4:34:41 · ≈ 1:34 PM

So then they would contact Mr. Smart. Mr. Smart would say okay is your event in impact the roadways or any of the other public right-of-way bike paths anything else that we have And he would say, okay here's the application you need to fill out. And he would probably begin to ask a couple other questions. Are you going to have food at the event? Are you going to have to limit traffic and put out cones or block roadways? And in doing that now is beginning to think, okay now I'm going to bring this to this group that Herman will gather together probably on a monthly basis or as needed basis and then they will begin this coordination process but Anybody, any spoke in the wheel can then do the referral to any other spoke based on the nature of the event that is being described to them.

So if we had the parade at Hollister School for example and then they decide to do a big carnival with food and a number of other things going on and they're gonna use the street for that carnival part as well as the parade. Now we're gonna perhaps trigger and we're gonna have to have public health and environmental health inspect the food Booths or those kinds of things. So there's, I mean there are all those other things but then each one of those other permits does have a fee ordinance attached to it and especially now with Public Works receiving their fee approval now all of those will have some full cost reimbursement component to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:36:07 · ≈ 1:36 PM

them. What if I just, oh I'm sorry. No go ahead. What if I just didn't tell anybody and just had my Hollister Parade and carnival and food Do you, how does, what happens? Then you have someone who reports

CommentHollister ParadeProposed4:36:23 · ≈ 1:36 PM

it and then you get a penalty. Double fine. So Madam Chair and Supervisor Gray so the non-permitted kind of events like this do become a serious enforcement Barbara County Board of Supervisors

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:36:55 · ≈ 1:36 PM

Actually, Dennis I think that Supervisor Gray raises a good point which is something that I was going to mention because this item has to do with better internal coordination between county departments. Which I think is really really important and I'm really glad that you know we're looking at that but something that I think is also important is better pathway for the general public externally And maybe this is something that's on the community services website at the county. So you go and you want information about special events, and it leads you there. Then there's a series of questions that says, Is your event going to be in a park? Is your event going to be in a public street? Is your event going to serve food? And then it would lead you, if the answer is yes or no, then it leads you to that.

Then it's like okay, if you're going to have food, then you need to go to the Environmental Health website with their specific requirements. If it's going to block a public road, you need to go to the Public Works. And so, I mean, I think that's really important. I think we need to have it online and I think we need to have some sort of a small hard copy brochure that's available that's kind of a start here. And then you know whatever whoever they contacted the county first even though their event may have other components to it then trips what we're talking about now as far as this better internal coordination But I mean, I think that Supervisor Gray is right that for all of us and this comes up a lot because we have a lot of special events.

That we need to be able to say you know here's the brochure or go to the website and start here and follow it through.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:38:29 · ≈ 1:38 PM

Thanks chair because I just could see Mr. Smart pulling his phone out of there. He

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed4:38:35 · ≈ 1:38 PM

can't be the only point of contact for this I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:38:37 · ≈ 1:38 PM

would say.

CommentHollister ParadeProposed4:38:39 · ≈ 1:38 PM

Madam Chair no that absolutely is true and in fact Herman Parker has already begun to envision some kind of a general application that asks those kinds of qualifying questions basically to get people moving in the right direction so that we could centralize that pretty simply. And I suspect easily that will be the next step in the process here too.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:38:59 · ≈ 1:38 PM

Well, and I am crossing off call Mr. Smart because I was going to hit that on the radio tomorrow and you brought...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:39:05 · ≈ 1:39 PM

And there can be permits that may be needed that the county doesn't grant, like a permit to serve alcohol. That has to go through Alcohol Beverage Control and so the event planner needs to know that sooner rather than later as well because we have no idea how long that might take.

CommentHollister ParadeProposed4:39:23 · ≈ 1:39 PM

So just to wrap up, our recommendations were to receive this information about the CEO's new policy on improving the internal process and then making sure that there is determination that it doesn't constitute itself as a project under CEQA.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:39:38 · ≈ 1:39 PM

Thank you. I think Supervisor Carball had his light on and then Supervisor Levin, you know.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed4:39:43 · ≈ 1:39 PM

I just want to thank CEO Waller for bringing this item before us. I know there were a number of events one in particular that really got a lot of consternation, created a lot of consternation in the community and I think for the most part they're pleased at least in my district. The Montecito Association as mentioned earlier continues to raise the issue of private events which a lot of this deals with in some form but not quite the substance of what they are concerned about So I guess just for the record, and I'll be communicating this to the Montecito community and the association that those issues are being dealt with in a different path. And that will complete both of these items that we've heard seven and eight in a way that gives us the best handle and best public policy to address these issues in the community.

So I just want to thank you for doing a good job in putting all this together, being responsive, being nimble and addressing the community's concern that came about because of an incident or incidents that were brought to our attention so thank you very much for being so responsive.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:41:01 · ≈ 1:41 PM

Thank you. Supervisor Lavagnino and then Supervisor Wolfe.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.764:41:03 · ≈ 1:41 PM

Thank you, Madam Chair. I appreciate the report but I think we've hit on something that's really important and I just wanted to make sure because I didn't hear back that was something that was going to come back to us but I think it's Supervisor Farn Grey said is it's very difficult for people in working in federal government trying to get people to go where to the right place to get started is very difficult for people and I even see here at the county level Having a website where somebody could go that would tell them this is the path that you need to, just by answering a few questions like the flowchart and a handout would be extremely helpful to people. And I just want to piggyback on that to say that I think that's a direction that we need to go and would like to hear back from our CEO and folks if that's something we're planning on or going to plan to do.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed4:41:50 · ≈ 1:41 PM

Ms. Waller did you want to respond to that? Chair Supervisor, I was just going to say a couple of things. First of all we really really value the no wrong door concept on this one particularly now meaning that regardless of what department they enter into the others will be brought into it. I think it's also a very good recommendation to charge this committee with developing that relatively simple website application which helps identify for folks what types of permits they will need and maybe even helps better refine for them who the really right door is to come into. So we'll certainly put that together for you and ensure that your board sees that, and when it's ready we'll also make sure that we have a press release or something so that our communities will know it's available to them as well.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:42:40 · ≈ 1:42 PM

I think that's a good idea.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed4:42:41 · ≈ 1:42 PM

Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:42:41 · ≈ 1:42 PM

Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:42:42 · ≈ 1:42 PM

Yeah, no, that's excellent. You know the other thing that just occurred to me is that sometimes these events cross jurisdictions and like you know Isla Vista or UCSB or Goleta in a lot of the marathons and so forth. So is there a mechanism where not necessarily that they have to be part of the committee but that they're somehow involved so that there is coordination. I think the coordination happens anyway, but would it be part of this group?

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CommentHollister ParadeProposed4:43:14 · ≈ 1:43 PM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Wolf. Absolutely we do that already internally kind of at the spoke level with the various jurisdictions. I think we've killed the metaphor now right? But I think at that level obviously between public works departments and the various city municipal governments so I think we handle it there but it does Ray's an important thing for us to keep in mind is that as these broad events continue to develop, do we need to have other people at the table on a more regular basis? What comes to mind is like the CHP for example is generally involved in a lot of the major road type events and just to bring that additional resource to the table is something that might help make things really efficient for everybody.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:44:05 · ≈ 1:44 PM

Thank you. Thank you. That's great. You know, just to kind of follow up on that and thinking about the San Ynez Valley, the city of Solvang has any number of events that also then impact the unincorporated area. So do you have really good communications with public works directors in the cities or how is the county notified? Because the genesis is there, the starting and end point may be there but everything else is in the county.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed4:44:33 · ≈ 1:44 PM

Dennis, if I could. Chairwoman, I have really close relationships with the various city managers and it just so happens that we have a meeting with them on Thursday. I'll bring this to their attention and ask that they identify someone within their organization that we can make contact with and then will offer Herman as our main contact for them as well to ensure that we get that coordination across jurisdictional boundaries.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:45:00 · ≈ 1:45 PM

I think that was a good point that Supervisor Wolf raised. Do you still have your light on? Did you have any more comments? I do,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed4:45:04 · ≈ 1:45 PM

but I'm going to turn it off now.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:45:06 · ≈ 1:45 PM

Okay, thank you. All right. Any other comments or questions? Otherwise we need a motion here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:45:13 · ≈ 1:45 PM

Yeah, I'll make the motion, but I just wanted to say that I've just now learned... It took me a year to learn that my name was Madam Chair and now today I have to learn it isn't so... And that I have to push a button to talk, and I have to push a button to hush. So it's a learning experience.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:45:32 · ≈ 1:45 PM

It feels so strange. All right you made the motion. I need a second. You have a second? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. And before we close today's meeting, I'm going to turn to first Supervisor Carbajal and then anybody else that has somebody they want to close the meeting in memory of.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed4:45:51 · ≈ 1:45 PM

Thank you, Madam Chair. With a heavy heart I share with you that it is my hope that we could close our meeting today in honor of Army Sergeant Chris Moniz who was from the community of New Kuyama. He was killed in action in Afghanistan in December and Sheriff Brown and myself attended his memorial service. He clearly was somebody who He died as a hero for our democracy and our country. But as important, I think that the community came out to demonstrate their respect and appreciation of him as an individual, as somebody who grew up in the community, and as somebody who was just well regarded and well revered. And I think it's just a terrible loss, tragic loss, and my heart and prayers go out to the community and to his family.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:46:50 · ≈ 1:46 PM

Certainly would extend our condolences as a board to the family and to the community. Thank you, Supervisor Carbajal. Anybody else? Supervisor Wolfe.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:47:00 · ≈ 1:47 PM

Thank you Madam Chair. I'd also like to close this meeting in honor of longtime Goleta resident Sam Alfano. Right now. Mr. Alfano was a former president of Goleta Valley Beautiful, and he was Goleta Man of the Year in 1999. Sam spearheaded many important projects in Goleta and was an inspiration to many. Our thoughts go out to his wife Lee and to his family. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:47:31 · ≈ 1:47 PM

Thank you. And with that, the meeting is adjourned until next week when we will be in Santa Barbara. Thank you everybody.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed4:48:01 · ≈ 1:48 PM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed4:48:46 · ≈ 1:48 PM

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