BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 February 7, 2012

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call0:02 · ≈ 9:00 AM

Thank you and good morning everybody to this regular meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors of February 7, 2012. Mr. Allen would you call the roll please?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:14 · ≈ 9:00 AM

Ms. Wolfe? Here. Ms. Gray? Present. Mr Lavagnino? Here. Mr Carvajal?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call0:19 · ≈ 9:00 AM

Here!

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:19 · ≈ 9:00 AM

Ms. Farb?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call0:20 · ≈ 9:00 AM

Here thank you would you

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call0:21 · ≈ 9:00 AM

please rise with me for the Pledge of Allegiance

All right, now we need to approve the minutes of our meeting of January 24th. Are there any questions or corrections? Otherwise a motion to approve. Thank you Supervisor Gray. Do I have a second? All right. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Now we'll go to public comment. Mr. Allen, we have a couple of speakers.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:10 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Madam Chair, we have four requests to speak and we'll start with Dr. Jones to be followed by Matthew Margulies. Dr.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:24 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Jones.

CommentDrProposed1:55 · ≈ 9:01 AM

First of all, I'd like to welcome everyone here, especially the folks from the Black History Group. And we are going to be celebrating black history throughout the month and I'm sure that there are some events that are planned and I'm sure they'll be telling you more about that. Of course, there are other issues here and I'm very concerned about this mayor of Montecito.

And I'm sure the Montecito community is concerned about this also. It seems though Rick Caruso, the developer of Miramar Hotel by the way he gave you $15,000 Supervisor Carpajal and the people of Montecito expect more They have not heard from, according to this article in the Daily Sound. The people of Montecito haven't heard from Rick Caruso and as I understand it Mayor of Montecito Carvajal that is what you call yourself isn't it?

As I understand there are certain issues here about the Miramar Hotel Now I can recall two beautiful tennis courts there, which I played on. I can recall the restaurant in the Miramar, which I've had dinner in. I can recall a beautiful location now it's nothing but weeds and I'm wondering Mayor Carbajal, Mayor Carbajal Montecito you should attend that Planning Commission meeting and explain yourself To the people of Montecito and to the issue directly, why has this project been on delay?

That's the question here. And it not only concerns people of Montecito, it concerns the whole county because if you take $15,000 from Rick Caruso who developed a project And you don't follow through, you can't call yourself the mayor of Montecito. And you can't call yourself a supervisor. So I'm sure some of these issues will be coming forth with, pardon me.

Thank you board members.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:42 · ≈ 9:04 AM

Thank you Dr. Johnson. Our next speaker?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:44 · ≈ 9:04 AM

Our next speaker is Matthew Margulies to be followed by Judith Everett.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:50 · ≈ 9:04 AM

Good morning and welcome.

CommentMatthew MarguliesProposed4:51 · ≈ 9:04 AM

Good morning, thank you very much for the opportunity to address you. I'm a retired physician and I would like to request an agenda item for you in the near future that's the National Defense Appropriation Act Particularly Section 1031 and 1032, which provide for the indefinite detention of any individual anywhere in the world including US citizens in bed two o'clock in the morning who are considered potential terrorists.

And this sort of lies in the face of the Constitution and the Pledge of Allegiance that we just took. And I look forward to you having this item on your agenda, and I hope you will come forth with a resolution condemning it. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:02 · ≈ 9:06 AM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:04 · ≈ 9:06 AM

Our next speaker is Judith Everett to be followed by Nico Constantinidis.

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CommentJudith EverettProposed6:11 · ≈ 9:06 AM

Good morning, Chair Farr and supervisors. I'm here to speak especially against the Act NADAA. I think that it would be very appropriate For the supervisors to write a letter to the Federal Government opposing this particular legislation. Indeed, it's draconian and I agree fully with that last speaker And we were rather surprised and somewhat horrified that our representative Lois Capps voted in favor of this particular bill.

We spoke yesterday at a town hall meeting via the telephone, and she said she wasn't entirely happy with it. And then she was going to work on it to make it more reasonable. However, that's by the by. The problems that came up during this town hall meeting were to do with the economy of course people's worrying and for the soldiers when they come back and don't find jobs and don' have proper health care And I suggested to Lois on the telephone that we solve these problems by taking away the military spending and using it for human needs.

And I'd just like to say that there's almost certain to be confrontation in the future, and we would expect the county police force to be well-trained and not to use violence as some of the police in this country have done against the protesters. The protesters are actually nonviolent. That's our motto here, that no harm to people or places and that we solve our problems with dialogue and intelligent actual protesting.

And so on. And as regards to soldiers, the way to protect them is to bring them home. There's no way they can be safe where there are protests and violence around the world. So thank you very much. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed8:42 · ≈ 9:08 AM

Our next speaker is Nico Constantinidis to be followed by Patricia Rosen.

CommentNico ConstantinidisProposed8:50 · ≈ 9:08 AM

Good morning. I've spent most of my life here in Santa Barbara and this will be the first time I will be speaking to you guys. I'm here to protest as well against the National Defense Authorization Act. Please remember that while there's only a few of us here today, there is widespread anger and outrage over this act amongst those who understand it. Nevertheless, also realize that many of our fellow citizens aren't even aware of this act as the media conveniently overlooked its controversial passage.

As someone who's looking forward to a lifetime of struggle and activism against this despicable entity that is our federal government, I'm especially alarmed by this act which, as it was pointed out, was supported by our own representative Lois Capps I'm scared because me or anybody who the government deems a terrorist can be arrested and refused to trial. The power that it gives to the president to indefinitely detain non-citizens is also worth condemning since our government's policies against terrorists are elsewhere known as torture, and to not grant these people even fair trials is something our country should be ashamed of, and this will cause even more anti-American sentiments So we ask that you pass a resolution condemning the NDAA and recommending that Lois Tapps introduce legislation to reverse this dangerous law.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call10:26 · ≈ 9:10 AM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed10:28 · ≈ 9:10 AM

Our next speaker is Patricia Rosen, to be followed by Brian Rosen

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CommentPatricia RosenProposed10:53 · ≈ 9:10 AM

I would like you to put on the agenda the National Defense Authorization Act. Anyone can be deprived of a trial, and this is not right. People shouldn't be put in jail without a good trial, and this is very important. I just think it's unconstitutional. And I've heard of people being picked up and put in jail without a trial, and that's a terrible thing to do. So I just want you to consider this and do what you can to make a change. Thank you. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed11:33 · ≈ 9:11 AM

Our next speaker is Brian Rosen to be followed by Richard Robinson.

CommentBrian RosenProposed11:46 · ≈ 9:11 AM

Notice the clock doesn't start until I actually start talking. Well, thank you so much for listening to our

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CommentBrian RosenProposed11:54 · ≈ 9:11 AM

public comments. We go over to these little countries in the Arab part of the world and people can be taken away and held forever without trial. You know, if they're critical of the government. And I think our Constitution offers us a lot of protection because once we lose that right, we're going to invite the worst kind of abuse. Our right to a defense and a trial. Now if I'm critical of what the U.S. Government is doing, that's my right as a U. S. citizen. Now I may be regarded as a danger to national security or corporate profits.

Maybe that's more accurate. But to give them the power to take anybody away could make McCarthyism seem like the Mickey Mouse Club, when everybody was called a communist. Now if there was no corruption in our government we wouldn't have a problem here would we? And some of you maybe don't think there is much corruption. Often the power elites are congratulating each other on how great they are and the judges, but historically there always has been corruption. There's the good and the bad and a lot of innocent people have suffered I'm asking you to put this National Defense Authorization Act on the agenda for public comment. I think a lot of the public wants this on the agenda and we've got to start here, every single city in the whole United States is going to condemn it, do resolutions and get the country to reverse this horrible Illegal unconstitutional law that where they can just take us away, you know gives the president that much power.

Now do we want our politicians and our leaders to have that much power? Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. That's why the founding fathers thought it was wise to have checks and balances on power Because, you know the World Trade Center after it got blown up why didn't they do this immediately? You know. They had all kinds of warnings, intelligence warnings that Al Qaeda operatives were going to airplane schools and they ignored them. And they took all this time to come up with this law that basically guts the Constitution which is completely illegal.

We all have the right to face our accusers into a fair trial. This is ridiculous. I would argue that in some cases the United States is terrorizing these poor little countries to get their oil and these little countries probably are no better than we are, you know? They're corrupt and they're good people and bad people so please...I'm going to give you a copy of the Bill of Rights and I have this great article on Barack Obama and how he supported this business of allowing military control, military detentions of citizens and non-citizens without trial. So I'm going to leave this right here. Thank you so much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed14:52 · ≈ 9:14 AM

Our next speaker is Richard Robinson to be followed by Carol Leaf.

CommentRichard RobinsonProposed15:01 · ≈ 9:15 AM

Madam Chairwoman, members, Richard Robinson. Genesis 128 says subdue the earth It does not say destroy the earth. When we want to eliminate the usage of oil, ma'am as a weapon, we concentrate Not one, electric automobiles. The greatest consumer of oil on this planet is the American automobile. So as we at this nexus evolve into the pardon me for digressing General Motors is about to become the world's greatest corporation again Evolved into what? The electric automobile.

Dad wants to take the kids from New York to Disneyland instead of stopping, spending time filling the tank every couple hundred miles. One stop plugs into a Motel 6 electrical output. Yada yada yada. I had when I was a kid a bumper sticker Ice the internal combustion engine back in the 60s, it was all the rage. Now we are seeing President Obama brilliantly say no keystone pipeline.

The obvious wisdom is that we won't need that amount of oil when the greatest consumer of oil, the American automobile converts to electric power. Also offshore There are those who will get making noises about drilling oil wells. It seems that after British petroleum disaster, well thank you very much.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call17:38 · ≈ 9:17 AM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed17:39 · ≈ 9:17 AM

Our next speaker is Carol Leaf to be followed by Lynn Hendred.

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CommentCarol LeathProposedself-stated17:49 · ≈ 9:17 AM

Good morning. I'm Carol Leath. I am really glad that I have all these people to help me with these international and national issues so that I can just concentrate on the things that are going wrong in the county, which are I was actually put in jail for nothing, put in jail for 12 hours and not allowed to call a lawyer for the whole time. It's all on tape at the intercom.

Ever. Seven deputies surrounded me in the courthouse. I've never been arrested in my life, own a house here in Santa Barbara. So you guys can worry about the stuff that goes on out there in other countries. I'm worried about things like that that are going on right here and that have happened to me. I've never been arrested in my entire life for anything. I pay so much taxes it's absolutely obscene. Anyhow but the reason I'm here because I didn't have a tennis game today is I'm wondering if any of you have read the November Stanford report from the Economic Policy Institute that says in detail that the County of Santa Barbara is $2 billion in unfunded pension liabilities. Have any of you read it?

Anybody? Raise your hand, no? Didn't think so. How can you people be up there really and be thinking about putting in 25 new oil derricks in the channel To pay for this excess in pensions, it's the tail wagging the dog. You guys are going crazy trying to find ways to pay for these county public pensions. You've got salaries, yearly compensation, for at least 40 people that's over $200,000.

County employees. Why are you looking at me, Supervisor Gray, like you're shocked? You're the people that passed these things. You know what they are. You pass them! You negotiate these contracts and it's going to tear this place apart so you're getting desperate. Twenty-five oil devs in the Santa Barbara Channel. We have had recurrent recent temblors in the channel It is so dangerous, I can't even tell you. And anybody who was here in 1968 and remembers the worst oil spill in the history of the country happened here in Santa Barbara.

Had there not been the storm, had the winds not been coming in a certain direction this place would have been a wasteland until now. It was favorable time The storm blew the oil in a different direction where it was not so deleterious. But, you know, we've got a lot of problems here and I at one time worried about more national and international. I'm an economist and I know a lot of this stuff but I worry about this county now. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed20:53 · ≈ 9:20 AM

Our next speaker is Lynn Hendred to be followed by our final speaker Mr. Caldwell in Santa Maria.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call21:23 · ≈ 9:21 AM

Good

CommentLynn HendredProposed21:24 · ≈ 9:21 AM

morning, Supervisors. The right to know what crime one is charged with and the right to a speedy trial and the right to know what jail time goes with that trial is one of the most basic of citizen rights as we know. This basic right has been removed under the NDAA. We must tell the President and our representatives in Congress I'm Or write to him at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Northwest, Washington DC 20500.

Or call our representative Lois Capps 730-1710 and do put this on the agenda with the looking forward to abolishing this as Judith said, this draconian act. Thank you. Our

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed22:35 · ≈ 9:22 AM

final speaker is Mr. Caldwell in Santa Maria.

PresenterAndy CaldwellCoLabProposedself-stated22:39 · ≈ 9:22 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board. I'm Andy Caldwell representing CoLab. Madam Chair, I'm going to ask you to seriously consider moving the public comment period back to where it was. It would be nice to have a time certain for public comments so people know when to show up but we feel like it's an incredible waste of time energy and money to have all your staff people including Your highly paid department head sitting in a meeting longer than they need to and having to sit through 10, 15 or sometimes a longer public comment period is just grossly inefficient. Especially in view of the fact that the county is downsizing and some of these staff members may be doing a heck of a lot more work than they were just a couple years ago To make them sit through 15 to 20 minutes of, well actually it's 25 minutes because in reality they didn't need to be here for your minutes either.

It's a waste of time and I'm not sure if you were trying to give the public the time certain for public comment that you can do that another way by just putting a time certain on public comment every week at 9 30 or 10 but to have them sit through this we think is just a waste thank you

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call24:05 · ≈ 9:24 AM

Thank you Mr. Caldwell. And that was our last public speaker, Mr. Allen? That's correct. And I think Supervisor Carbajal did you want to make a comment during public comment?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed24:17 · ≈ 9:24 AM

Actually, I'll just hold off.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call24:19 · ≈ 9:24 AM

Okay thank you. Before we leave public comment, I do want to honor a volunteer which we started when Supervisor Gray was chair last year and is Mark Warner here? Somebody needs to... This week we'd like to honor Mark Warner who volunteers in the board office Mark began his volunteer work in 1992 when First District Supervisor Naomi Schwartz was elected to the Board of Supervisors.

Mark first met Naomi in 1981. He had survived a horrific motorcycle accident that left him with significant physical injuries. During his recovery, he and Naomi became fast friends and when she was elected supervisor, he would regularly check-in on her. Still to this day they speak with one another on a weekly basis. Mark's volunteer efforts have now spanned almost 20 years.

Every weekday morning, Mark reports to the board office to offer his assistance. He prepares the dais for the board members including filling water pitchers and making coffee, delivering copies of the newspapers, providing newspaper clippings on subjects he believes will be of interest to board members and helping in the kitchen. In addition to his volunteer work, Mark spends his time collecting rare coins and watching movies. He has an extensive movie collection including two copies of every Cary Grant movie available on DVD.

And one copy stays untouched and the other one he enjoys. Mark is an example of a volunteer who teaches perseverance and the value of commitment to others. We all speak here as board members in expressing our appreciation for your dedication, Mark, for the assistance that you give us. Thank you.

CommentMatthew MarguliesProposed · by introduction26:22 · ≈ 9:26 AM

I'd like to thank everybody. Thank you so much for allowing me to do the things that I do. Put the

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call26:30 · ≈ 9:26 AM

microphone up, there

CommentMatthew MarguliesProposed · by introduction26:31 · ≈ 9:26 AM

we go. I enjoy it so much and it's all because of the supervisors and their staff in the county office. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call26:42 · ≈ 9:26 AM

Thank you Mark so much All right, now we'll go ahead and move on to our administrative agenda. And I think we have one speaker slip.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed27:01 · ≈ 9:27 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board, we have one request to speak from Dr. Robert Johns on item A3. Madam Chair members, the board item A3 is from Supervisor Carbajal. The request that the board adopt a resolution proclaiming the month of February 2012 as Black History Month in Santa Barbara County.

CommentDrProposed27:41 · ≈ 9:27 AM

Well it It greatly displeasures me, Supervisor Carbajal that you continue to proclaim that you are a liberal. I've seen you in many other incidents events and you are not a liberal so it really mystifies me as to why you continue and there are other board members here who are Who are on the other side and who could better represent Martin Luther King, Black History Month.

And they're also Latino holidays even though you are Latino Mexican American I've seen you I'm only speaking, I've seen you disrepresent your own people. Now-

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call28:44 · ≈ 9:28 AM

Dr. Johns, you need to speak to the resolution.

CommentDrProposed28:47 · ≈ 9:28 AM

That's the resolution. The resolution is Black History Month and we have a supervisor who portends to represent ethnic people and he does not represent ethnic people. And I am questioning why this is? I'm mystified by it, currently totally mystified by an individual

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call29:12 · ≈ 9:29 AM

who constantly disrespects his own people. Dr. Johns, you need to speak to the resolution.

CommentDrProposed29:17 · ≈ 9:29 AM

Well, I think you get the point even though I have a minute and 25. I will drop the subject. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call29:26 · ≈ 9:29 AM

All right. I'm sorry. Madam Chair,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed29:28 · ≈ 9:29 AM

just to note we did receive a late request from Mr. Caldwell on item A15.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call29:33 · ≈ 9:29 AM

All right, well Mr. Caldwell what we were thinking of doing was just having a motion on the resolutions A1 through A9 because we're having a reception after that but if we want to go ahead and entertain A15 we can go ahead and do that. Supervisor Wolf did you have some other? Oh I was just going

CommentFinal ReportProposed29:55 · ≈ 9:29 AM

to move acceptance of the resolutions but whatever the chair would like to do.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call30:02 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Okay. Well, why don't we go ahead and hear from Mr. Caldwell? Is he the only other speaker that we have on the agenda?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed30:08 · ≈ 9:30 AM

That's correct

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call30:09 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Madam Chair. And then we'll move forward. Mr. Caldwell.

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PresenterAndy CaldwellCoLabProposedself-stated30:14 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Madam Chair and members thank you. Did they read this one?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call30:20 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Just a moment and we will. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed30:22 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Madam Chair item A15 is from planning and development. The request that the board consider recommendations regarding the Strategic Growth Council Proposition 84 sustainable communities planning grant application.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call30:33 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Go ahead, Mr. Colla.

PresenterAndy CaldwellCoLabProposedself-stated30:35 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board, I'm Andy Caldwell representing COLAB. This item has to do with the county applying for a grant to be funded by Prop 84, the Safe Drinking Water, Water Quality and Supply Flood Control River and Coastal Protection Bond Act of 2006. And I have two points on this. First of all, I am not sure that you are aware because I don't ever recall a hearing on this The cities, counties, farmers and ranchers right now are being slammed by the Regional Water Quality Control Board on various aspects relating to quote-unquote clean water. Including farmers being asked to control stormwater runoff capture and treat it before releasing it into a dirt ditch.

Cities are being asked to cover retention basins, which could literally bankrupt the cities if they were asked to do that. And it's just ironic to us and kind of an insult to injury that while one government entity is demanding these things of the city, the county, and our farmers and ranchers Instead of applying for a grant to perhaps help them through this situation, you instead are going down this path that's just gonna make the economy suffer more. And that has to do with AB 32 and SB 375.

That brings me to my second point. I'd like to know right now if Supervisor Carbajal, do you support high-density development in Montecito or Summerlin? Supervisor Wolf, do you support high density development in Goleta or Nolita? Supervisor Farr, do you support high density development in Los Olivos or San Ynez? Well if not, then you're against SB 375. And it really is insulting to us that you're spending general fund monies, CREF monies and now you're applying for state monies for programs that you would never ever implement because your constituency is dead set against high density infill development.

So why go through the ruse? Tell us on the record today that you're supporting SB 375 and you're volunteering your district for high-density infill development. Tell us that please or deny this grant application because SB 375 says you're going to be building high density infill development to comport with AB 32 and SB 3 75 You know, quit playing these games because we already know that you're going to fight against development in these areas. Well, you know what? Our time really is up.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call33:43 · ≈ 9:33 AM

All right. Anybody else to speak on the A agenda?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed33:46 · ≈ 9:33 AM

No further questions.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call33:48 · ≈ 9:33 AM

Supervisor

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed33:49 · ≈ 9:33 AM

Gray. Chair why don't we just go ahead and move the entire administrative agenda. If you want

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call33:54 · ≈ 9:33 AM

to make that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed33:54 · ≈ 9:33 AM

motion.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call33:55 · ≈ 9:33 AM

I'll still

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed33:55 · ≈ 9:33 AM

move.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call33:56 · ≈ 9:33 AM

Motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries, all right. And so now we're going to go to Supervisor Carbajal to present Resolution A-1. And Mr. Allen if you would... Well actually do want make some comments first.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed34:14 · ≈ 9:34 AM

Just very brief. If I could have Mr. John Mainza and Greg Wilson come forward Thank you. Yes,

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call34:37 · ≈ 9:34 AM

people can kind of keep it down as you are filing out please thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed34:46 · ≈ 9:34 AM

I don't want to shortchange you so I wouldn't wait till they're everybody's left and Madam Chair, today it is an honor for me to sponsor this resolution of commendation honoring John Mainza and Greg Wilson upon achieving Target 3 level for the Innovative Building Review Program Energy Efficient and Residential Building Design. For that category here in Santa Barbara County For those of you that don't know, we have an advisory effort here in Santa Barbara County that attempts to advise builders, individuals seeking to build homes or structures as to how they could achieve the highest level of efficiency. And there's different categories.

Well this particular residential development has achieved the highest rating and it's a testament to the commitment of the two gentlemen in front of us. Not only, I'm sure their desire to achieve this wasn't just to have a little award but truly their commitment to energy efficiency and I think this reflects what people can achieve if they are committed to these standards put forth that exceed California standards so congratulations to you too Mr., I don't know if he could read the resolution please?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed36:13 · ≈ 9:36 AM

Madam Chair, members of the Board. This is item A1. It's a resolution honoring John Manza and Greg Wilson upon achieving the Target 3 level for the Innovative Building Review Program Energy Efficient and Residential Building Design. Thank you. Whereas John Manza and Greg Wilson designed and reconstructed a residence at 1147 Hill Road in Montecito to meet Target 3 of the Innovative Building Review Program The highest level of the program reserved for those projects that demonstrate an exceptionally high level of energy efficiency through innovative designs and technologies. And whereas, the Maines & Wilson Residential Building has earned the highest rating from the U.S. Green Buildings Council Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design for Homes Program.

Platinum certification. The building incorporates numerous energy-efficiency techniques including 9.6 kilowatt photovoltaic system solar pool 5,000-gallon cistern for storing harvested rainwater and delivering water for irrigation. Two green roofs, spray polyurethane foam installation in the walls, floor and roof, radiant floor heating, 100% LED lighting and high efficiency appliances, and Forest Stewardship Council certified cabinetry, interior siding and deck materials. And whereas the Mains and Wilson Residential Building surpasses California's energy efficient standards by 54.3%, lowering the rate of energy consumption by approximately 9,500 kilowatt hours per year in reducing the building's energy bills by approximately $1,400 a year and the 9.6 kilowatt photovac system offsetting most if not all of the building's remaining energy usage.

And whereas, the county's Innovative Building Review Committee has determined the Mainza-Wilson Residential Building demonstrates an exceptionally high level of energy efficiency. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that the Board of Supervisors honors John Mainza and Greg Wilson for meeting the Innovative Building Review Program Target 3, and further commends them for their leadership in energy efficient building design. Passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed38:18 · ≈ 9:38 AM

Thank you very much Supervisor Carbajal. I'd also like to thank Brownstein, Hyatt-Farber and Schreck, Patsy Stadelman and Shelley Collier and Chris Jacobs with whom we could not have achieved this level of energy efficiency they were very helpful in our planning process in achieving the level of energy efficiency that we did

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed38:45 · ≈ 9:38 AM

Thank you very much, and I just wanted to say the best part about the whole thing is going and looking at the electrical meter spinning backwards every

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed38:51 · ≈ 9:38 AM

day.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed38:54 · ≈ 9:38 AM

Madam Chair?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call38:54 · ≈ 9:38 AM

Yes, Supervisor Carbone.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed38:55 · ≈ 9:38 AM

John and Greg, maybe you could answer or address the most important question in this quest. Oftentimes we hear that one of the reasons individuals don't pursue more energy efficiency Features are because sometimes they could be more expensive and I think that oftentimes. That's a Misunderstanding more than anything, but if you could address that how? Did that Was that a major factor was it really more expensive or is the residual that you get back does it offset any higher expenses that you incurred Anything on that subject would be helpful because I think that's always The prevailing question and concern

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed39:42 · ≈ 9:39 AM

Well, I think initially people are afraid to undertake it because they're fearful of what's involved. But the process seems to be daunting but the reality is that it starts with a commitment to doing the right thing. We're long-time environmental supporters and have always wanted to achieve the highest level that we could in any endeavor we've done. To that end, I think that the more people that have the commitment, the more people that act in the smallest ways to improve the energy efficiencies of their homes will see that the long-term benefit far exceeds any incremental cost increase.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed40:22 · ≈ 9:40 AM

I personally think that a lot of effort needs to go into innovative building practices and the development of more economical methods to achieve them because in actual fact it can be, and usually is more expensive because we're still on the front edge of innovation for building

CommentFinal ReportProposed40:44 · ≈ 9:40 AM

Thank you both for being here and congratulations on your award. In answer to Supervisor Carbajal's question, Supervisor Farr and I recently attended our own county EMPOWER program which works with homeowners to help them get loans so that they can move forward and do energy efficiency projects on their home. So it just kind of gives me an opportunity to plug our Empower program. When we were in Goleta there were many people, homeowners there who don't necessarily have the funds available to do it, but through the loan program that's been set up they might have that opportunity. And just on another note I've mentioned this before but every time we put solar panels on our house maybe six months ago and our bill was you know about $150-$200 our last bill was about two dollars And we know when we made the investment, it's probably going to take us about eight to nine years to get our full return on the investment.

But since we expect that we're going to be living in the house longer than that and it's also even if we chose to move, it is a benefit to a potential buyer so I think Just getting the word out and letting people know of the different programs that are available. There's rebates that are available, and we've got great folks in our town like you two. Architects, builders who are, and innovators who are really ready and willing to do these projects. So we just, like I said, we need to get the word out there. So I'm really glad that Supervisor Carbajal brought the two of you here so that we can highlight what you're doing and what the community is doing.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed42:38 · ≈ 9:42 AM

Thank you very much, Supervisor Wolf. And besides the monetary aspects of your solar panels, I'm sure it makes you feel really good every day that you're actually feeding the grid. Oh, I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed42:48 · ≈ 9:42 AM

do.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed42:49 · ≈ 9:42 AM

And I do love watching the meter go

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed42:51 · ≈ 9:42 AM

down. Supervisor Gray? Thank you. We attended the contractor's meeting. This is North County stuff, and Hustle Builders have had to add I think three if not four additional staff members and have a whole branch now that's dedicated to nothing but the Empower. And they've got, I think you said they had 90 backup waiting to cover? So it's really caught on in North County. It's a good thing. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call43:21 · ≈ 9:43 AM

Thank you and thank you for the wonderful model that you've set for the community. Appreciate that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed43:26 · ≈ 9:43 AM

Thanks again.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call43:28 · ≈ 9:43 AM

All right, we will move on. All right, let's go on to administrative agenda item 2, Supervisor Wolff?

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CommentFinal ReportProposed43:44 · ≈ 9:43 AM

Thank you, Madam Chair. Before we read this item into the record I'd like to call Dr. Wada and Nancy Lopola and anyone else, Dr. Salducci if you wanted to come forward too. So we go from energy to energy. This is physical. This is the physical part though. These are the folks from County Public Health. And before we get into the resolution I want to thank you and your team for everything that you're doing educate our community on things that are so important to us, and that's our health. And this resolution is specifically to call out and to let the public know that this is I want to say heart prevention month it's what is the actual name? It is proclaiming the month of February 2012 as American Heart Month I think it's important for folks to know that in the United States, heart disease is the number one killer of our citizens and non-citizens.

And in Santa Barbara County, it is the number one killer of folks in our community. And our public health department works very hard And educating people to change behaviors, to have us work to take on more healthy behaviors. But in this instance you are also providing us with Mr. Mannequin behind you Ms. Coppola to talk about a new program which is hands only CPR program that has been developed and And you're here today to give us a brief explanation about that. And I understand that your group is going out all over the county so that people in the community will learn this pretty basic, simple yet vitally important step to save people's lives. So we'll hear the resolution and again I just want to thank you for all of your work and what you do for our community.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed45:47 · ≈ 9:45 AM

Madam Chair, members of the Board. This resolution proclaims the month of February 2012 as American Heart Month and the day of February 14th, 2012 as Hands-Only CPR Training Day whereas February is designated as American Heart Month by the American Heart Association to increase awareness about heart disease prevention and the behaviors that promote heart health. And whereas heart disease is a leading cause of death nationally and locally with an estimated 630,000 deaths per year in the U.S., and over 700 deaths per year in Santa Barbara County, with approximately 200 cardiac arrest victims being treated locally each year by the emergency medical system.

And whereas the prompt delivery of cardiopulmonary resuscitation more than doubles a cardiac arrest victim's chance of survival by helping maintain vital blood flow to the heart into the brain. And whereas smoking, unhealthy diet and lack of physical activity contribute to heart disease. And whereas the Public Health Department is committed to reducing heart disease through prevention programs and performance improvement strategies. And whereas on February 14th 2012 the Emergency Medical Services Agency in collaboration with local hospitals and first responders will be conducting community hands only CPR training to the public to help increase cardiac victim survivals.

Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that the Board of Supervisors of Santa Barbara County does hereby observe the month of February 2012 as American Heart Month, and the day of February 14th, 2012 as Hands Only CPR Training Day in an effort to prevent heart disease, save lives, and respond effectively to those who experience cardiac arrest in Santa Barbara County. Passed and adopted today.

CommentJudith EverettProposed47:29 · ≈ 9:47 AM

Dr. Wada?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed47:31 · ≈ 9:47 AM

Yes, Madam Chair, members of the Board, thank you for your support of February as American Heart Month and February 14th as CPR Training Day. Cardiovascular disease is the leading cause of death in the United States and here locally in Santa Barbara County. One in every three deaths is from heart disease or stroke, over 2,000 deaths per day here in Santa Barbara County, 700 deaths per year due to heart disease.

So in 2011, the Million Hearts campaign was launched nationally with a goal to prevent one million heart attacks and strokes over the next five years. Key components of this initiative include empowering individuals and families to make healthy choices So to improve their diets with no trans fats, low sodium, more vegetables and fruits, physical activity 30 minutes a day and to avoid tobacco smoke. Also improving care for those who need treatment so daily aspirin for those at risk, blood pressure control, cholesterol management and smoking cessation and education and awareness for the public. And part of that is CPR getting people to know how to respond If they're out on the street and they're the first person there when somebody goes down.

So February 14th, our EMS agency along with hospitals and first responders will be conducting hands-only CPR trainings across the county. Also I want to make you aware that our EMS agency was recently awarded a $25,000 grant from Medtronic to help pay for equipment and training over the next year or two. So I'll now turn it over to Dr. Sal Gucci from the Cottage Emergency Room, he's also the medical director of our EMS agency and he'll speak a little further on cardiovascular disease and do a quick demo with the mannequin. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call49:18 · ≈ 9:49 AM

Thank you, Dr. Water. Welcome, Dr. Salvucci. Thank you for being here today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed49:22 · ≈ 9:49 AM

Thank you Chair Farrar and members of the Board. Angelo Salvucci, Medical Director of Emergency Medical Services. Much of what public health does is to prevent heart disease and to treat heart disease. For emergency medical services we deal with the consequences, the emergency consequences of heart disease, and there are two of them. There's a heart attack and there's sudden cardiac arrest.

Heart attack is when an artery supplying blood to the heart muscle is blocked And when that occurs, that artery needs to be reopened as quickly as possible. Two years ago you approved our heart attack system. It's called a STEMI system. The most severe of heart attacks need the most immediate treatment and since then it has performed extraordinarily well. We have benchmark times to treatment that exceed national standards and we're actually doing quite excellent in every regard in that and thank you for that.

Regardless of where you show up with your heart attack, with your STEMI, you get excellent care. You get immediate treatment or transportation to a place that can take care of your immediate illness. The second is sudden cardiac arrest and that's when your heart actually stops different than a heart attack. In a heart attack your heart is still beating. Sudden cardiac arrest it stops. When your heart stops your brain doesn't get blood circulation and you collapse. And that's true probably the most serious of all medical emergencies So the cornerstone of treatment of that is continuous, uninterrupted high-quality CPR. And we're attacking that in a number of different ways. First, we're training all of our professional teams how to work together to focus on near 100 percent time on the chest, meaning that CPR is never interrupted regardless of what's happening.

That's called the pit crew approach. But we take a few minutes to get there, EMS. It takes four to six minutes for us to get there and before that the community can help us. One of our other programs is to emphasize dispatcher-assisted CPR so if you call 911 regardless where you are, you'll get someone who can instruct you on how to do CPR but better yet is to know CPR in advance. That CPR you provide in the first four to six minutes can make the difference between a brain surviving and waking up once the paramedics restart the heart, or going on and really never waking up or worse yet dying.

And we have two projects for that. We have a community-wide CPR program That's going to start next week on February 14th in collaboration with the Heart Association, again on June 7. The 14th is Valentine's Day. Heart, get it? Clever. And we'll be putting out flyers shortly for that. That involves all of the fire departments, the hospitals, AMR, Search and Rescue and Caltrans.

And the second under a grant project, and I'm going to demonstrate this in just a second. In starting in Santa Barbara and then spreading throughout the county is to focus on the downtown Santa Barbara businesses with Santa Barbara City Fire and AMR. We'll be starting this at the end of March. is to try to, again, get the community to understand what hands-only CPR is. Let me explain that briefly. CPR used to be a four hour program where you had to learn to open the airway and assess in a complex way the pulse and then first breathe for the patient. There was a huge barrier in performing mouth-to-mouth on a stranger. No one wanted to do it. Honestly I didn't want to do it.

And taking that practicality in mind and understanding science better, it's not necessary. What is necessary is to start pushing on the chest and restoring that circulation. There's still plenty of oxygen in there. And so we're teaching people to do that. You can learn that in less than five minutes, and I'll show you now. There are three steps. One is you check to make sure the person is unconscious. The second is you call CPR. And the third is you start doing compressions.

Check, call and compress. There's really nothing else to it. And I'll show you in just a

CommentJudith EverettProposed53:23 · ≈ 9:53 AM

second. Can you put it on the table?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed53:55 · ≈ 9:53 AM

You've got to start doing CPR. Then you send somebody else preferably to call 911 if you have to do it yourself, fine that's necessary but it would be great if someone else could do it. Then you locate the center of the chest between the nipples. Put one hand there put the other hand get over the patient and begin compressing. And what I've shown you in the last two minutes is all you need to know about CPR.

And when you start, you don't stop. If the person wakes up, you can stop but if nothing happens which it most likely won't until EMTs and paramedics arrive, you just continue that CPR until someone gets there and you continue it at a rate of 100 and you press down for two inches, and we will be showing people how to do it. And the nice thing is there's a little green light which now you see the red one because I stopped but a little green light on these mannequins would show if you're doing it correctly. So our grant project is going to help us purchase a number of these. We're gonna take them out to community. We're gonna save some lives.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call55:17 · ≈ 9:55 AM

Thank you so much. That was, you informed this whole room and everybody who's watching on television and everybody who will watch this on replay. Thank you very

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed55:26 · ≈ 9:55 AM

much. I have to say, I have to ask the experts what now? You're going to use your imagination when Joni was taking lifeguard training. So it was several years ago. That's the kind of that we learned. And then they went, they kept having different phases of you know breathe and their mouths. So now we're back to what I'm going to take new training but I'm back to what we've

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed55:53 · ≈ 9:55 AM

done. Just hands

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed55:53 · ≈ 9:55 AM

only again?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed55:54 · ≈ 9:55 AM

Supervisor Gray it was, we made it far too complex I can go over some time, let me know when I can talk to you about it. But in 1960 when CPR was invented it didn't have mouth-to-mouth that got added sometime later. In retrospect it probably was somewhat misguided for people who just need to learn the basics get on the chest that's most of what needs to be done for CPR

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed56:18 · ≈ 9:56 AM

So everyone knows that I was a lifeguard prior to 1960. Thanks doctor!

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call56:31 · ≈ 9:56 AM

All right, yeah film at 11. Okay thank you again and let's move on then to our last resolution that we're going to be having presented today and we'll turn back to Supervisor Carbajal

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed56:45 · ≈ 9:56 AM

Thank you, Madam Chair. It is an honor for me to present this resolution proclaiming the month of February 2012 as Black History Month in Santa Barbara County and the theme this year is black women in America history and culture. And if I could have Melvin Ritchie come forward Sojourn Kincaid Rowley Anita J Mackey Gwendolyn Hampton All you men, today's not your day as it is for the women before us.

It is a real honor to present this resolution honoring African-Americans in our country for all the many contributions that have been made to making our country what it is today. And with that,

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed58:06 · ≈ 9:58 AM

Madam Chair, members of the Board, this is item A3. It's a resolution proclaiming February 2012 as Black History Month in Santa Barbara County. Whereas February is recognized as Black History Month throughout the United States and the 2012 national theme is black women in American history and culture. And whereas from the American Revolution to the present, African-American women have played a myriad of critical roles in the making of our nation. Their labor and leadership, their motherhood and patriotism, and their intellect and artistic expression have enriched both the African-American community and the nation at large.

In slavery and freedom, their struggles have been at the heart of the human experience and their triumphs over racism and sexism are testimonial to our common human spirit. And whereas black women have been notable for standing against oppression and have included well-known historical leaders including Phyllis Wheatley, the unlikely American patriot during the Revolutionary War, Harriet Tubman, the leader of the Underground Railroad from slavery, Ida B. Wells, the unyielding opponent of lynching and Rosa Parks, the mother of the modern Civil Rights Movement.

Black History Month honors and acknowledges the contributions and achievements of African-American women both locally and across our country. Their participation in local community groups, churches, literary societies, sororities, advocacy organizations, businesses, educational institutions, media organizations, and social services have served to enhance the quality of life for all residents in our community.

And whereas, by retelling the story of African American women our community will gain a greater understanding of their struggles and achievements and broaden awareness of their significant roles and contributions in the making of America. Now therefore be it and as hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors declares February 2012 as Black History Month in Santa Barbara County and calls on all residents to celebrate with appropriate ceremonies and activities. Passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:00:24 · ≈ 10:00 AM

I'm sure I'm chosen because I'm the oldest. I'm 98 years of age, and I may act like I can't walk but it's because I had back surgery two years ago and it left me with neuropathy in my feet. But my mind, I'm still sharp as a dull tack.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:00:43 · ≈ 10:00 AM

And

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:00:46 · ≈ 10:00 AM

these wonderful ladies here that I've known and I now live in Glendale in a senior citizen's apartment not assisted living I don't plan to go into assisted living until it's really necessary. God bless all of you, Santa Barbara is a wonderful city and I was here for over 40 years and now I'm in Glendale California at the Seventh Day Adventist Retirement Center.

I don't try to walk alone.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:01:17 · ≈ 10:01 AM

Is this on? I also had the privilege of serving with Miss Anita Mackey once upon a time on the Fire and Police Commission for the City of Santa Barbara. And that was, boy, that was a long time ago. So good to see you again.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:01:32 · ≈ 10:01 AM

Thank you. Other speakers?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:01:35 · ≈ 10:01 AM

Are there any other speakers?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:01:36 · ≈ 10:01 AM

There

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:01:39 · ≈ 10:01 AM

is a reception that we're going to be having in the room next door and the public is welcome.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:01:45 · ≈ 10:01 AM

Um, that's right. So, um, thank you everybody and it's certainly our privilege to be able to honor you today and we are going to take a recess for the reception in honor of Black History Month in the Supervisors Conference Room. Everybody is welcome. Uh, we will be back here for the beginning of our departmental agenda item number one at 1020. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:22:40 · ≈ 10:22 AM

All right everybody the Board of Supervisors will come back into session here and we are beginning our departmental agenda with item number one. Madam

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:22:51 · ≈ 10:22 AM

Chair, just prior to

moving on to Item 1 we do have a quick request for continuance if I could read that into the record it's Item Number 5 from Planning and Development. And this is a hearing to consider recommendation regarding the land development fee resolution. I've been informed by the department and by county council that there's some additional documentation that needs to be reviewed, and they'd like to continue this matter until next week on the 14th.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:23:15 · ≈ 10:23 AM

Okay do I have a motion to continue? Second. Do I have a second? Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, all right we have continued then departmental item number five until next week. Okay now we'll go back to number one.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:23:33 · ≈ 10:23 AM

Madam Chair and members of the board item number one is from the sheriff it's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an amendment to ordinance number 4440 the sheriff's electronic monitoring programs.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:23:44 · ≈ 10:23 AM

Alright Keith Patterson thank you for being here

GuestDon PattersonSheriffProposedself-stated1:23:48 · ≈ 10:23 AM

Good morning Madam Chair, members of the Board. My name is Don Patterson and I'm with the Sheriff's Office and currently the Chief Deputy in charge of the jail. With me today is Lieutenant Mark Maheron who researched and wrote the board letter and Lieutenant Charles Powell who is in charge of our Affirmative Sentencing Bureau. We are here today for the first reading of an ordinance reauthorizing and updating the electronic monitoring program that was approved by the Board in 2002.

Currently, our program is voluntary for sentenced inmates. This updated program under consideration for board approval will expand our current program to include the voluntary placement of pre-sentenced inmates on home arrest in lieu of bail and mandatory home arrest for post-sentenced inmates. These two new options give us more tools to manage our jail capacity and population as you saw with the first quarterly report for the impact of AB 109 after only three months we have exceeded the state's projected impact at our jail after full implementation The Sheriff's Office has successfully operated community release and alternative programs to incarceration since 1971, beginning with a traditional work furlough program.

The Sheriff's Work Alternative Program or SWOP was added in 1984. The SWOP program allows those sentenced to minor crimes and short sentences of less than 60 days to serve their time doing community service at various locations throughout the county. Our current electronic monitoring program, commonly called GPS, was authorized by the Board in January 2002.

Since the implementation of AB 109 in October 2010 we have seen a 20% increase in the number of participants in our GPS program. In 2011 alone, these two programs GPS and SWAP served 1,557 participants and provided hundreds of hours of community service throughout Santa Barbara County. Preliminary indications suggest the number of participants will grow significantly in 2012 and in future years for both programs and especially for the GPS program.

Our current electronic monitoring program is voluntary and only available for sentenced inmates. AB 109 allows for two significant changes to our electronic monitoring program. The first change is the ability for involuntary home detention for sentenced inmates. Under the Public Safety Realignment Act, commonly referred to as AB 109, Penal Code Section 1203.016 was modified to include involuntary placement in a home detention program for sentenced inmates.

Also, Penal Code Section 1203.017 allows the releasing of sentenced misdemeanor inmates to an involuntary home detention program due to lack of jail space. The second major change is a home arrest in lieu of bail for pre-sentenced inmates. Penal code section 1203.018 was added to include releasing inmates being held in lieu of bail to participate in an electronic monitoring program.

In order to qualify for this program, the inmate must be held in custody for at least 30 calendar days from the date of arraignment for only misdemeanor charges or has been held in custody pending disposition of felony charges for 60 days after date of arrainment. Between October and December 2010, the number of inmates who qualified under these two options ranged from 25 to 32.

The penal code sections mentioned in the last slide authorizes the Board of Supervisors, after consulting with the Sheriff and District Attorney to prescribe reasonable rules and regulations under which an electronic monitoring program may operate. Those rules and regulations must be reviewed annually by the Board of Supervisors. In addition to consulting with the DA's office we also solicited input from the public defender, the probation department and the courts in developing this program.

As stated above, we have had electronic monitoring for sentenced inmates since 2002. In 2006, we moved from a radio frequency system to a GPS system. Prior to the implementation of AB 109, GPS monitoring was offered to low-risk inmates in lieu of actual detention and medium risk inmates who had satisfactorily served some of their sentence in jail. The final determination of placement on the programs was decided by a scoring system developed by Sheriff's Office Alternative Sentencing Bureau personnel and several experts in the field.

With the implementation of AB 109 facilitated an increase in coordination between the Sheriff's Department and the Probation Department for early release of inmates. In accordance with AB 109 philosophy, our new procedures include using evidence-based instruments for all persons being considered for GPS monitoring swap and early releases. We use three types of evidence-based instruments for this decision. The first is the IST, or initial screening tool. The second is the COMPASS which is used by CDCR, the state prison system and the third instrument is a static 99.

The initial screening tool measures the likelihood to reoffend. The COMPASS measures the likelihood to reoffend and the risk of violence. And the static 99 was designed specifically for those inmates serving time for domestic violence and sexual assaults. With the implementation of AB 109, we began to proactively evaluate all sentenced inmates for alternatives to incarceration using the above three instruments.

Once sentenced, probation reviews the inmate's COMPAS score. If a COMPAS has not been completed on an inmate, an initial screening tool is completed. If the inmate scores in the lowest risk category, we process them for GPS home detention. If an inmate scores at the medium level or above any IST, a full COMPASS is completed by the probation department. Inmates who score in low to medium risk on the conference receive additional review, other cases including charges, behavior in custody and other factors such as health and housing situations.

Once approved, alternative sentencing personnel then process them for GPS. And sexual assault cases, domestic violent cases will use a static 99 instrument so this is specifically developed for those, specifically developed and measures the likelihood of re-offend. The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, CDCR initially estimated that about 125 collective jail beds or alternative sentencing detention slots would be needed at full implementation of AB 109.

As of December 31st 2011, 90 days after implementation the jail had 133 slots filled by AB 109 inmates. These 133 slots are 108% of the original state estimate for full implementation. It is still too early to predict if these numbers are temporary escalation, if they will become lower over time or if they will escalate and then plateau as we move towards full implementation.

This ordinance will increase the tools we have in our toolbox to manage the jail population. With these new options combined with evidence-based instruments, we can be more confident making decisions that prioritize public safety when deciding who should serve their sentence in jail and those who could serve part of all of their sentences in alternatives to incarcerations or community based programs.

The Sheriff's Office and Probation Department continue to monitor the impacts of realignment in AB 109. It is becoming clear that community corrections programs, including GPS monitoring are now more than ever before critical to our ability to manage our population. We're asking the Board to approve this ordinance and authorize these expanded options. These new policies procedures as authorized under AB 109 also require an annual review by this board. Consequently, we expect to come back to the board in a year to report on this program including any suggested changes needed due to the future unknown impacts of AB 109.

This concludes our presentation and I have several staff with me here to answer any questions you may have. Thank you

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:31:15 · ≈ 10:31 AM

Thank you so much, Chief Deputy Patterson. Questions from the board? Supervisor Carbajal and then Supervisor Levin. I just

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:31:21 · ≈ 10:31 AM

wanted to commend Sheriff Brown and Mr. Patterson all of you that participated on this early on when we were dealing with this issue as you recall. I really was looking forward to seeing the procedures because at the end of the day that's really what the public wants to know how is this problem going to work what happens when somebody doesn't show up What's the protocol? People just want assurances. And after reading the procedures manual, it's extremely thorough. It's right on and I just want to commend you on the good work of putting this together.

GuestDon PattersonSheriffProposedself-stated1:31:54 · ≈ 10:31 AM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:31:55 · ≈ 10:31 AM

Thank you. Supervisor Levin.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.681:31:57 · ≈ 10:31 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. I want to echo that too Chief. I spent a lot of time reading through this because I think sometimes people say my brain works. That I can think like some of these folks that might be trying to get around the system a little bit And I thought it was very thorough about what's required of the individuals that are in monitoring. They're not allowed to have additional adults in the house, you can't have a party bringing it to your house, those types of things. That was very interesting. I learned a lot and I'm very confident this system is going to work. The one question I did have though and I was trying to follow along there was that I was having trouble finding in here. What's the profile or type of crimes?

That somebody would be committing that would still be coming back into electronic monitoring.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:32:50 · ≈ 10:32 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor, for the most part what we see on our front end or our lower risk are drunk driving incidents of that nature, petty thefts with no criminal history. We do see however again petty thefts, thefts with priors that keep coming back that would be in that category.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.681:33:09 · ≈ 10:33 AM

Okay, and I know you had talked about some sexual assault and that type of thing where it would have to be escalated to make sure that you're looking at those types of things. So, I guess I just need assurance and I'd feel better. What's the likelihood of somebody who has committed a sexual assault being allowed to go out into electronic monitoring?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:33:32 · ≈ 10:33 AM

Supervisor, one of the things that we use is a thorough comprehensive assessment through probation which includes a static 99 report that looks at their likelihood to re-offend. We also have the ability through our GPS monitoring contract and company to specifically restrict movement of that individual if they were ever approved for that program. We have the ability to have immediate notification if there's a violation to local law enforcement agencies which whoever that may be in whichever jurisdiction it may be We have the ability to respond a lot quicker in those instances, if that was ever the case.

GuestDon PattersonSheriffProposedself-stated1:34:04 · ≈ 10:34 AM

Okay. But the odds... Go ahead, Chief. Supervisor Lavagnino, we also take input from the DA's office, the courts and probation on that. The odds of it happening? I can't give you a percentage point. Have we put some people out? Yes, we have but we consider them very low risk and we monitor them very closely. And there is a requirement to notify the victims when this happens.

And there's a lot of other things we put in place to make sure that it's done correctly and it's in the best interest of the public

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:34:32 · ≈ 10:34 AM

Thank you,

CommentFinal ReportProposed1:34:33 · ≈ 10:34 AM

Supervisor

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:34:33 · ≈ 10:34 AM

Wolk.

CommentFinal ReportProposed1:34:35 · ≈ 10:34 AM

Thank you and I just to clarify that issue for me a little bit more. I thought that AB 109 did not include violent offenders. Or any sexual violence or domestic violence. So I thought that those folks were out of the AB 109 system, the non-non-nons.

GuestDon PattersonSheriffProposedself-stated1:35:02 · ≈ 10:35 AM

Those folks are out of the AB 109 system from prison. If they're sentenced to a misdemeanor, they still do time in our jail and we have had several of them depending on how the DA files it and the actual conviction. They could be convicted of a misdemeanor doing time in the jail. And so we would evaluate everyone who's sentenced into jail for GPS and electronic monitoring based on the instruments. But initially, the ones you're talking about, the violent ones and the seriously violent predators, they're the ones who still go to state prison.

CommentFinal ReportProposed1:35:27 · ≈ 10:35 AM

So this is just a follow-up question. So someone could be arrested for domestic violence, and is that a misdemeanor? Or are they always... I'm just having trouble understanding that.

GuestDon PattersonSheriffProposedself-stated1:35:42 · ≈ 10:35 AM

There are misdemeanor and felony sections for domestic violence. It depends on what they're convicted of and what they're actually sentenced to whether they still do time in their jail or the state prison system. Most of them are going to be doing time in the jail.

CommentFinal ReportProposed1:35:53 · ≈ 10:35 AM

Okay. And then another question, when they go before the judge does the judge have any input into this whether or not they would qualify for GPS based on their history? Does a judge make any recommendation at that front end?

GuestDon PattersonSheriffProposedself-stated1:36:10 · ≈ 10:36 AM

Supervisor Wolf through the chair, that's absolutely correct. The judges have by statute they have the ability to give us very strong recommendations to put someone in GPS. They also have the ability to categorically deny GPS for anyone that they feel is not appropriate for.

CommentFinal ReportProposed1:36:25 · ≈ 10:36 AM

Okay, very good. And I too want to thank all of you in the Corrections Department and I know this has been a burden for a lot of you folks implementing AB 109 but as I said before there's been so much cooperation between the departments and a lot of work specifically in your department. And as Supervisor Carbajal said, I knew that we'd be getting to this point and it's good to see the ordinances come into play and I think the explanation of how you make these determinations by using evidence-based programs. It's good for all of us to hear that so I thank you for all of your hard work.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:37:10 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Thank you Supervisor Wolf. Any other questions from the board at this time? Do we have any speakers from the public? No request to speak.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.681:37:19 · ≈ 10:37 AM

I'm like a motion.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:37:20 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second and that's to approve the motion A B & C All right all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries thank you very much gentlemen appreciate you being here and for your thorough report All right, we will move on to departmental item number two from the Agricultural Commissioner's Office.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:37:48 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Madam Chair and members of the board, Item 2 is from the Agricultural Commissioner. It's inherent to consider a recommendation regarding revisions to Chapter 34C of the County Code, Weights and Measures, and the adoption of the Ag Commissioner's revised fee schedule.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:38:04 · ≈ 10:38 AM

Thank you. Good morning, Ms. Fisher, our Agricultural Commissioner. Thank you for being here. You're going to do the presentation on this item?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:38:20 · ≈ 10:38 AM

Board members. Presentation up. The Agricultural Waste Measures Department Price Scanning System and Device Registration Fee Proposal. The proposed ordinance will protect consumers and local businesses by creating a sustainable price scanner accuracy program with full cost recovery, and create a sustainable device inspection program by aligning device registration fees with current costs in what is allowed by state law.

Every Agricultural Commissioner and Director of Weights & Measures is responsible for protecting consumers and businesses by verifying the accuracy of price scanning systems. The consumer is protected by ensuring that the sales price they are asked to pay is calculated fairly and accurately. Likewise, businesses are protected from unfair business practices that put them at a competitive disadvantage. Existing staffing levels within the Weights and Measures Division only allow for price scanner inspections on a complaint basis.

Price scanning systems are composed of a UPC barcode which is located on every item throughout the store, checkout line scanners which scans the UPC barcode and a central price database system. State law requires the price that is charged to a consumer shall not be more than the price advertised on the shelf tag or other advertising signs throughout the store.

In November 2010, the State Department of Measurement Standards along with the Santa Barbara County Weights and Measures Inspectors conducted a countywide Price Scanner Survey. The statewide overcharge average is 2.6%. Our inspectors were overcharged on 7% of the items sampled. This revealed that consumers are almost three times as likely to be overcharged for purchases of similar items in Santa Barbara County.

Counties with ongoing price scanning ordinances had an overcharge rate of only 1.92%. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, total retail sales in Santa Barbara County in 2010 were approximately $5 billion. This equates to $12,000 per county resident. Using the percentages from the survey we conducted, the average person was overcharged $96 that year. This equals almost $40 million of overcharges countywide in 2010.

Any improvement in accuracy due to an ongoing scanner inspection program has the potential to redirect millions of dollars to the appropriate party. The Agriculture Department surveyed all 58 counties to determine the fees that they charge for inspecting price scanner systems. The chart illustrates that proposed fees that we plan to implement are well within reason compared to other counties and well below the average.

The fees are based upon the hourly rate and the time needed to complete the inspection as defined by law. Fees shall not exceed the county's total cost of the initial inspection and shall not be used for other purposes. This summarizes our price scanner proposal. Our next proposal involves device registration fees. Every Agricultural Commissioner and County Director of Weights & Measures is charged with inspecting each commercial weighing and measuring device within their jurisdiction.

State regulation requires that most of the commercial weighing and measuring devices be tested annually. Examples of commercial devices include gas pumps, market scales, livestock scales, water vending machines, and taxis. The existing device fee structure in Santa Barbara County is based on the number of devices at each location. It ranges from $20 for one device to $200 for more than 25 devices at a single location.

There is no business location fee. Current fees now only cover 16% of the costs to inspect commercial devices in the county. Device registration fees have not been increased since 1994. The proposed device registration fee structure has two components, a device type fee and a location fee. The device type fee is designed to offset the average time expenditure costs of the on-site inspection.

The location fee is designed to offset the cost of dispatching an inspector to the device site and recover general operational costs. At full implementation, the proposed device registration fees will recover 66% of the department's inspection costs. Our ability to do this has been in existence since 2006 when a state law became effective. The Department of Agriculture and Weights and Measures is recommending the adoption of the revised Ordinance 34C, Weights and Measures, and the adoption of the amendment to the Agricultural Commissioner's Fee Schedule. Department staff will be available to answer any questions. Thank you.

Thank

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:43:26 · ≈ 10:43 AM

you Ms. Fisher. Questions from the Board at this time? Do we have any public speakers?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:43:34 · ≈ 10:43 AM

We have four requests to speak.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:43:35 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Okay, should we go to the public then?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:43:37 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Then we will start in Santa Maria with Mr. Caldwell to be followed by John Lopez in Santa Maria.

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PresenterAndy CaldwellCoLabProposedself-stated1:43:47 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board I'm Andy Caldwell representing COLAB. We can support The Act Commissioner's request on the device fees for weights and measures, we think that makes sense. And we think that you know the community is willing to bear the cost recovery so we don't have any complaint on that with regard to the scanner fees We think that there might be a better way to accomplish the same goal and that is, there's a lot of stores right now that have policies that if the item stands at a price higher than what's on the shelf then the consumer gets that plus ten times the difference or what have you. But the bottom line is we think that just information given to consumers that if you were overcharged, then they should be able to report that overcharge to the Ag Commissioner's office and then the Ag Commissioner can go out there and sample and perhaps fine an establishment.

We think the sample survey was skewed by the Montecito market. We're wondering why the consumers aren't being alerted because even if you do this thing and you go in there once a year and check it, what good does that do the other 364 days out of the year? Because it's garbage-in garbage-out. This is not so much fraud as it's probably human error or human negligence. And in a larger store, it'd be hard to get it right every single time.

The other thing that you can consider is, like we said maybe you pass the scanner ordinance on large grocery stores. These little mom-and-pop shops most consumers are aware enough to know what they're buying and what they're supposed to be paying and the consumer bears some responsibility and even in the survey some consumers got undercharged And so we don't think there's a nearly half million dollar problem that needs to be solved here. With regard to the math, the math was based on per capita where babies don't shop.

The math doesn't work, the sample size is too small and the sample in our opinion was skewered by the Montecito market which I think if I remember correctly had seven of the overcharges in the sample survey. So we think that again you should bifurcate this They could require store owners to put stickers on the back of the cash registers saying, hey if any item didn't scan correctly please report this to the Ag Commissioner. The Ag Commissioner can go out there and do a survey and find them if they find out it was true but we just don't feel that this is A problem that warrants a half million dollar solution, which is either going to be bought by store owners in a recession or consumers in a recession. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:47:02 · ≈ 10:47 AM

Thank you Mr. Caldwell. Our next speaker is John Lopez in Santa Maria followed by Dr. Jones back here in Santa Barbara. Good

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:47:13 · ≈ 10:47 AM

morning Mr. Lopez.

PresenterJohn LopezStoll Shopping Center Reading the article in the paper yesterday at a local SantProposedself-stated1:47:14 · ≈ 10:47 AM

Chairman Farrer, members of the board. My name is John Lopez I represent the Stoll Shopping Center Reading the article in the paper yesterday at a local Santa Maria Times, I find it interesting that Mr. Teague feels that two hours of his boss's time in my office discussing this very issue is a non-contact. He said there was no contacts with this issue. Just because you can doesn't mean that you have to.

Just because the State allows you to do something doesn't mean that you have to. Big Brother doesn't need the price police. We don't need to have people running around checking the price of everything over somebody's, over a consumer's shoulder. I'd like to give you a little equally ridiculous scenario in checking with... Santa Barbara County requires that a great number of their employees use safety shoes.

Well, in checking we found three of those employees did not have their safety shoes So that means that about 20% of the sample that we took causing a great concern of people, Santa Barbara County employees having foot injuries. But we would like to have Santa Barbara County give us $20 per department so that we can go out and check to make sure all of these people have their safety shoes.

And in this way, we can hire some retired person to go out and do this job and possibly get him a little red 1959 Triumph to drive around and do this in. This is how ridiculous this situation is. We do not need a price police. Thank you very much.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:49:05 · ≈ 10:49 AM

Thank you. Our next speaker is Dr. Johns here in Santa Barbara to be followed by Gail Carranza here in Santa Barbara. Madam

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CommentDrProposed1:49:23 · ≈ 10:49 AM

Chair, let me add a little bit of local color to this stuff. This event is now every single, every single citizen,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:49:49 · ≈ 10:49 AM

And you will see for, you will see that if you walk through a supermarket chain and you want to do that business. You're

CommentDrProposed1:50:02 · ≈ 10:50 AM

going to get ripped off the likelihood of getting ripped off is very high. And those are scanning groups. The likelihood of getting ripped off is extremely high. So senior citizens should check your grocery balance, check the items. Be very careful. If you were to monitor persons coming out of that The average working person doesn't have time to check their bill.

Special esteemed citizens, you have the time. You need to monitor your bill. And when you start doing that, you're gonna see that you're being ripped apart by the supermarkets. Sometimes it's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:51:25 · ≈ 10:51 AM

easy

CommentDrProposed1:51:28 · ≈ 10:51 AM

to do. So check your bill. I've never checked my bill. And I started checking my grocery bill, and I found out I was being ripped apart every time I went to that store. So beware.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:52:00 · ≈ 10:52 AM

Thank you, Dr. Johns. The

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:52:03 · ≈ 10:52 AM

next speaker is Gil Carranza to be followed by our final speaker which is Kevin Spear. Good

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:52:10 · ≈ 10:52 AM

morning Mr. Carranza.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:52:27 · ≈ 10:52 AM

And it's going to go up to $120 to $140 as of this proposal. They say it's priced exactly what a gas station is, there's a big difference between gas and water. They can do this water machine in 5-10 minutes, the gas station takes them 3-5 hours. And the price is not fair with $100 just fee administration fee per each machine. Like in Guadalupe, I have three water machines. That's $300 plus each pocket. I have four pockets that's $20 each.

I don't mind them raising the fees by double but this is just outrageous. The thing that when I've talked to the agriculture commissioner, Department of Real Estate, excuse me. I get kind of shook up talking to a crowd but anyway with the fees that they have raised on us and stuff is just outrageous and it's not the same as water. Water is something that the people need and they said well the way to do that is raise your prices. We're a quarter a gallon five for a dollar. The people in this state need a break They have to have water. Gas, they can cut down whatever else and you go to one gas station at a Chevron in Santa Maria here that's $3.59 the next one will be $399 we can't do that with our water machines big companies do but I'm a small company I have another guy here with another small company and to be honest with you we need a break in something to keep our prices the same it's not the time to raise things when property taxes are going down everything is going down You know, we have to do something.

But we need something for the water machines by themselves not to be said that we're a gas station. That these are exactly what a gas station says and we're not a gas station. We don't have toxic materials where they have to take the gas out, put the gas in, put the gas back in there, come back over look at the meters, look at this. It takes five minutes to do that. I've talked to them before when they're there it takes them five minutes 10 minutes if they want to sit there and talk to us and stuff. But it's real simple, I mean the water machines are definitely going to be way overpriced. And one of their sayings was down south it's all like that up north it's not. To me it's just rather outrageous to raise from $30 to $120 or $20 to 120 or $30 to $140.

It's insane if you look at it and you're getting a gallon of water We pay the health department and everything else, which measures is something we do need. I mean God forbid if we didn't have them. But you know the price is just outrageous on water. I mean we need water and I think it should say like it is or double our fees.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:55:13 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Thank you Mr. Carranza. Supervisor Carranza?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:55:18 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Of all the counties you do business in, what's the range that you pay?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:55:22 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:55:22 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Is there some where you pay more?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:55:23 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Yes and I've talked to the commissioner in Santa Maria, I mean not Santa Maria, in San Luis Obispo. I talked to one of the workers there and stuff and he says that they're going to try to revise that for water. Right now it's $97 in San Luis Obispo County The $97, they said that they're going to try to revise that. There should be something separate for water. A long time ago when I first got in this business, I've been in this business since 1992 when it was California Pure Water Company. We were $10, $20, $30. We have the exact same repairman's license as a gas station does. We can't repair a gas station. What

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:56:01 · ≈ 10:56 AM

about Ventura County or other counties?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:56:03 · ≈ 10:56 AM

I have nothing in Ventura. I have in San Luis Obispo and I have in Santa Barbara County, and we are moving into Curran County right now.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:56:12 · ≈ 10:56 AM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:56:13 · ≈ 10:56 AM

And Curran County is about the same as this.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:56:16 · ≈ 10:56 AM

Thank you. Our final speaker is Kevin Speer.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:56:22 · ≈ 10:56 AM

Welcome Mr. Speer

PresenterDr. Sal GucciProposed · by introduction1:56:23 · ≈ 10:56 AM

Madam Chair, it's Kevin Spire. I'm here to basically reiterate Gil's thoughts about the fee increase. I also own a business here in town doing the same thing selling drinking water. I feel like we're providing a great service for some of the underprivileged people in the community as well, offering purified drinking water at an extremely low price. And with the fee increases, we're going to have a great difficulty in keeping that price low for them.

And my concern is raising from 20 to 120 is a big jump. That's six times obviously and I do think that fee increases in order, they have been the same for quite some time. Double is fine $50 maybe $60 even but 120 I just feel like it's over the top. Again, we're providing a great service to the community and we would like to keep our prices competitive. And as a small company it's going to be hard to pay that device registration fee for all of our locations whereas a larger company like Glacier is going to be happy with that because it's gonna make it harder on us, the small guys.

In lieu of small business and helping the community out and keeping prices low, I would like a revision of that fee increase.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:57:53 · ≈ 10:57 AM

Thank you. Thank you Mr. Spire. That was our last public speaker. Okay we'll bring it back to the board. I don't know first of all if Ms. Fisher you wanted to respond to any of the public comment?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:58:07 · ≈ 10:58 AM

Just regarding the water vending machines, it's any device. The inspection regardless of what the machine dispenses, the inspection procedures are clearly defined in our regulations and so inspection procedures for a water vending machine is very different than a gas pump. I actually had staff go out and time themselves doing a full inspection of a water vending machine.

The water vending machine device fee just pays for the cost recovery of the inspection is $20, and it took us 30 minutes on average to test our water vending machine. Now, the business location fee is the fee to help recover the surrounding supportive costs that go into testing that device. If we find that there's a problem with the device, we'll red tag it, pull it out of service, call the owner, explain what's wrong. They have a service agent come out, they repair it. We're notified when it's been repaired. We go back to the site. We retest the device to make sure indeed it is working accurately and we pull the red tag and put it back into business. All of that supportive costs that go into testing that device and ensuring its accuracy is recovered in the business location fee.

Even at full implementation, as I mentioned earlier with these fees we are only still covering 66%

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call1:59:22 · ≈ 10:59 AM

of the cost of the program. And these regulations are coming from the state that you are implementing? Yes. Okay thank you. I think Supervisor Lavagnino and then Supervisor Carbajal.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.681:59:32 · ≈ 10:59 AM

Well, I've had some problems with this from the very beginning. But first off, I do want to say Kathleen, I think you've done a really good job of basically taking direction and going out and trying to do what You know, you feel that you need to do for cost recovery and that's what the board direction has been for your department. And I also applaud you that we had a chance to sit down and I got to air out all my grievances and you have your answers. Some of them I accepted some of them I didn't accept so I just kind of want to lay out for me why I have a problem with this. First off is Over the last two or three meetings, and this agenda, this meeting is full of it. We continue fee increase, fee increase, fee increase. On some of these I can support because I feel that people ask us to run the county as a business.

We have to get cost recovery of what we need to do. But there are times to me where I think we are looking at areas where I don't really see that big of a problem. I have not had one constituent call me and talk to me about being overcharged or under charged. I doubt if I'll get any under charge calls. We're all consumers here, but the biggest problem I see in this whole scenario is one that is not addressed here and that is if I go buy a box of cereal and it says $4.59 on the tag on the aisle, but the scanner, the barcode reads something else and it matches up. The scanner matches up with what the barcode reason my receipt says the same thing. If I'm not paying attention I can get overcharged, but that would not be caught in this.

Because as whoever puts the tag on it, that's what I'm looking at. I'm not looking at what my receipt says. I want to make sure that I'm paying what was advertised. I don't have a problem with gasoline stations, scales, propane. I think that's all protecting the consumer but I don't really see much consumer protection in this because for the very example of what Mr. Caldwell had said is that one market that we went out and took a look at 25% of their items were overcharged or undercharge 7 out of 28 The problem is, who knows that? The next guy walking into the grocery store even if we have this program doesn't know that. So I don't see where we're protecting the consumer any. The next guy's going to walk into that market just like anybody else and probably be susceptible to the same over or under charge.

I'm not interested in creating a half million dollar mini department inside Weights & Measures to deal with this. Hiring more employees, I just don't think it's an answer. I think these two gentlemen brought up a very good point as far as water machines. If we are going to move forward with this, I think we've got to limit this to large-scale operations where if I go inside a Walmart or a grocery store and I'm buying 300 items maybe I don't know if I got under overcharged. If I'm going to a small place and I'm buying one pair of shoes or a sweater usually I'm making that purchase decision based on the price so if I see a jacket that I really want $100 and I go to get it, and I go to purchase it and it rings up at 125. That's incumbent upon me to make a decision whether I want to pay that or I don't.

I think the sample size that we used was extremely small and limited. You know, if you take sports statistics and a guy hits a home run in game one on opening day and you then extrapolate that out and say this guy's going to hit 162 home runs this year. Things can kind of get a little misleading with statistics. I just think it's the wrong approach. Even if we do have a problem, which I'm not really sure we do to the degree that we've been shown is that I think this should be fine oriented where we still stay with the guys that we have. If we find somebody that's abusing the system, we fine them but we don't pile on an additional fee on top of folks that are trying to run small businesses in this tough economy right now so I will not be able to support this.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:03:56 · ≈ 11:03 AM

Thank you, Supervisor Lavagnino. Supervisor Carbajal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:03:58 · ≈ 11:03 AM

Thank you very much. Notwithstanding the water issue which I think we could always tweak it to make sure we're being perhaps fair or more fair but I think that Miss Fisher also gave a good explanation about the time that's entailed when you run across certain instances and this may be an average of trying to get our hands around that So ultimately I may be okay with that but I still think it's worth exploring if we could look at surrounding areas, see what others have done to see if there could be a slightly more appropriate fee for the water folks.

You've got to love our democracy because I just heard my colleague speak and he made some good points but I see it quite the opposite This is all about consumer protection, and for me that's one of the most important things to consider as we consider this effort. I'm all for a fine program and not charging a fee but everybody that we run across that is guilty then it has got to be a significant fine.

I'm open to a fine program as long as it's significant, so at the end of the day you get the same results. I think what this is trying to do is create a program where people police themselves to avoid these types of overcharges and maybe God forbid under charges that they might be able to correct in their operations. I'm inclined to support this before us. I'm open to a fine program in the future provided that it's significant, that every time you come across somebody who has something that's in violation that we charge them heavily so that it has the same result and for that matter it has the same result for us cost recovery as well. So I'm open to different concepts but the end result for me is consumer protection Certainly, we could continue to do more sampling to reinforce to us if there's a slightly different maybe average of violation.

But still even if you cut this in half, we still are greatly over the state average and we have a responsibility to protect our consumers from being overcharged. Of course you don't know when you're being scanned and whether it matches the price or what have you That's why this program exists, because you go in there and you do random sampling to see when indeed we have these failures.

For me it's quite simple. It's all about consumer protection. So notwithstanding the water issue that I think we ought to look at just to see what a better average might be or have that come back to us in a year or six months so we can look at if there is a better way of that particular fee being adjusted But other than that, I'm very comfortable with what's before us and it's all about consumer protection.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:07:08 · ≈ 11:07 AM

Thank you Supervisor

CommentFinal ReportProposed2:07:09 · ≈ 11:07 AM

Carbajal. Supervisor Wolf? Thank you Madam Chair and thank you Ms. Fischer for bringing this forward. You know when you first came to us and we talked to you and we interviewed you, we talked a lot about the weights and measures issue For me, I assumed that we were doing what is being proposed right now. I assume that because I felt it is our responsibility to monitor the weights and measures and the scales to protect our consumers.

I assumed that we were keeping up with some of the other jurisdictions And when you came on board, I learned a lot and my assumptions were incorrect. We had discusses about the issues of consumer protection, making sure that and I would even think that businesses would appreciate some oversight so that when they put up a sticker the consumer knows that it's been checked and that they are being monitored and compared with other businesses.

I think it's a good thing, and I applaud you for taking this step. Thank you because I know you've done a lot of work out in the community. Not everyone is going to be happy. No one likes to have a fee imposed or greater fee imposed but the fact is that for years we have not been keeping up nor have we been proactive And what you're proposing for us, I think is reasonable. It will protect all of our consumers as has been brought out. It will protect the elderly. It will protect...

For everyone. It's something that we all expect when we go to a grocery store or when we weigh our fruits and vegetables. We expect that there is some oversight and protection And I think your proposal is modest. It's well within reason comparing it to other counties, and it's one that I will fully support.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:09:38 · ≈ 11:09 AM

Thank you Supervisor Wolf. Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:09:40 · ≈ 11:09 AM

Gray? Thank you very much. I would like to request that we separate these two issues. There are two issues. One is scanner and the other is device. And in my estimation, the device Needed to be done and we should go ahead with the exception of looking at the water at the water vending machines. I don't understand, but it does seem like would be easier to test a water vending machine than Thank you.

So I do not see any sense in having one to three scanners or four to one to three scanners have to pay a fee. An increase in their fee. I think that if you can't figure it out, if you're going to buy a coat and it's going to be $125 and it scans for 175, that's your responsibility. I don't want to pay for you not checking your tickets. I certainly understand the need to check the 10 or more so that when you go to the grocery store... And now I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth in a way because I still think that you could probably check that and then notify the Commissioner's office and say such-and-such a market is overcharging.

However, if – I think she probably knows more than I do so I'm okay to go with the 10 or more. With that being said, I cannot support the increase in scanners unless we dwindle The increase in fees on devices and I think that's necessary.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:11:42 · ≈ 11:11 AM

Thank you. Ms. Fisher, if we were to try to revise the fee schedule to give some extra assistance to small business owners and I do want to thank the small business owners that are here today because I know that you're very busy and to take time out of your schedule to be here. I know how difficult that is and how much this issue must mean to you to do that And given the challenging times that we're in right now economically, I am sympathetic to small business owners. And it sounds like they are willing to have some increase just not as great of an increase as what's being proposed for that. So if I am looking at The fee comparisons and right now it's $20 and it's going to go to. $80 is that in my reading this correct? 22 or 120,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:12:45 · ≈ 11:12 AM

but there's two programs. There's the scanner and then there's the devices and the water vending machines are under the device and that's the $20 per device with a business location fee. But the $80 A business location with scanners, the one to three scanners. And then the four to nine would be 160. So those are two separate fees, two separate programs.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:13:07 · ≈ 11:13 AM

Okay but for their specific situation? Water vending machines? Yes it would go from $20 to 120. Well, again I would support you know revising it in a way that would assist small business owners in particular. However you know I do want to say that I think it's important that this is just one more department And service at the county provides that we are actually acting as agents of the state on and so you know, we're required to do this. And then the question is, you know, do we have the capability to do it or not?

And if not, then obviously we run into perhaps an increasingly bad situation where people are not having devices that are accurate. On the other hand, if we do fulfill what we need to do on a regular basis and we don't have the money to cover it then we have to support it through increasing general fund contribution and that is totally in opposite of what one of our basic budget principles is which is full cost recovery And so I do want to thank you for bringing this forward, as the other departments have done because that is kind of your internal mandate as well.

To keep us current and certainly these fees that haven't been increased since 1994 should be looked at and so I'm glad that you brought it. So I am supportive of it, except that I would like to give a bit of a break on the 20 to 120. And I would be open to whatever that is. I think we heard from the audience perhaps $60 so that would kind of split the difference a little bit.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.682:14:49 · ≈ 11:14 AM

Madam Chair, I have a question based on what Supervisor Wolf brought up. Are we or are we not currently going out and inspecting scales in gas stations and propane? Vending.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:15:04 · ≈ 11:15 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Lavagnino, yes we are. The state requires certain devices most of the devices to be inspected annually and currently we have a total of 19,942 commercial devices in the county.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:15:20 · ≈ 11:15 AM

But the question is, are you getting out on this regular basis? Because you should. Is that part of

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:15:25 · ≈ 11:15 AM

what's going on? With the devices, Madam Chair, we are inspecting a majority of those devices annually with scanners because we don't have the resources to devote to that program. We do not have an ongoing monitoring program for scanners.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.682:15:39 · ≈ 11:15 AM

Correct. Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:15:40 · ≈ 11:15 AM

That's

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.682:15:41 · ≈ 11:15 AM

the two issues that I'm looking at. I mean, I'm okay with the scales and the gas because you don't know if you're pumping out a gallon of gas if you're getting a gallon of gas so I understand the need for that. So, I mean, I don't know if we want to split these issues or if you don't but I support one but not the other.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:15:58 · ≈ 11:15 AM

Thank you,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:15:58 · ≈ 11:15 AM

Supervisor. My question is are we required? I thought it was authorized but did I misread the where I need a legal opinion? Are we required to scanners?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:16:17 · ≈ 11:16 AM

The statute Miss Anderson was just telling me that you have the discretion but not the requirement to impose the fees.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:16:24 · ≈ 11:16 AM

But do we have the discretion and not the requirement to check? And do we have the requirement to check so many times or that what I'm trying to get to is, what are we required to do because what Chair Farr said was if they don't, if the fees don't cover it then it comes out of general fund. And that makes a huge difference in the way you think about this. So what are we required to do is where I'm headed

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:16:55 · ≈ 11:16 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Gray. Devices are required by law they're mandated to be inspected annually. Scanners, agricultural commissioners are not mandated to inspect the pricing accuracy of scanners but we do have the authority to go into a business location to inspect the pricing accuracy.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:17:20 · ≈ 11:17 AM

Supervisor Wolf?

CommentFinal ReportProposed2:17:24 · ≈ 11:17 AM

All right, thank you Madam Chair. I'm going to make a motion and see if what happens with this because I feel so strongly that we need to move forward and I'm particularly pleased that you're bringing this forward as it relates to the scanners because that is an important Okay, I have a motion. Do I have a second?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:18:11 · ≈ 11:18 AM

Second that, I'm just trying to also listen to our second motion. We can engage in some discussion.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:18:21 · ≈ 11:18 AM

Okay, so I have a motion and second. Discussion on the motion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:18:25 · ≈ 11:18 AM

I second the motion but I am also sensitive to the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:18:28 · ≈ 11:18 AM

issue that Supervisor Farr raised about small businesses and I want to understand that better so if you could explain it. Well, I want to help small businesses. I think it's also when it comes to scanners, I keep thinking of those little stores in neighborhoods that on one hand you want to support them but on the other hand usually those are in more economically depressed neighborhoods And certainly I don't want folks who are already economically depressed to have a higher incidence of getting gouged and not having the consumer protections that we want. So it's sort of a double-edged sword for me, but I would be open in better understanding that because I'm not sure that I do right now. But notwithstanding that, I do support Supervisor Wolf's motion.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:19:23 · ≈ 11:19 AM

Okay, well just to clarify you know it seems like this board has taken a number of actions of various types and kinds to assist business particularly small business you know over the last couple of years. And so you know I'm hoping that with the reduced fee still an increase still would be a tripling of the fee That helps to offset the cost without necessarily a diminution in the regulations and the reporting and the work that the Agricultural Commissioner's Office has to do to make sure that they are functioning the way that they need to do. So it is going to lessen slightly the cost recovery that the Department has, but it shouldn't hopefully lessen The inspections that they're doing on those devices, no matter whether it's a big business or small business.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:20:14 · ≈ 11:20 AM

Madam Chair and I guess I'm looking at Commissioner Fisher is do we have a clear enough definition of what would be a small business and how we could apply what Supervisor Farr is referring to? Because if there's an easy way, I'm very open to it. If there's not let's move forward bring this back in a year and then work on that issue.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:20:37 · ≈ 11:20 AM

Chairwoman Farr, Supervisor Carver-Hall. That is the dilemma with this is that you would have to come up with a definition of a small business. For example, the businesses with one to three scanners there are many chain stores that are throughout the county that have one to three and so some examples they might consider is that a small business may be one location in the county with one to three scanners perhaps could pay half the fee as far as an example, but that would be the challenge when you define what a small business is to make sure that it would just include those small businesses that qualified versus other chain stores.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:21:17 · ≈ 11:21 AM

Madam Chair? Okay, Supervisor Carball did you want to respond to that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:21:22 · ≈ 11:21 AM

That's very helpful but unless we're able to address that sooner rather than later and it has come back to us for that consideration the alternative is to adopt it now

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:21:35 · ≈ 11:21 AM

OK, is there any other way to get at what I'm asking here? A small business exemption. Certainly we could look at that. OK. All right. Thank you. Supervisor Lavagnino and then Supervisor Wolf.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.682:21:49 · ≈ 11:21 AM

Madam Chair, I guess I've hit my point a number of times and probably done with it now but I think you raised a really good point is if you have a small business inside a disadvantaged community in the neighborhood The business owner is not going to absorb that cost. It's going to cost more for the gallon of milk, it's going to cost more for the loaf of bread and the consumer is the one in the long run that's going to end up paying for this so I think it's imperative that we find some way to work around that system.

CommentFinal ReportProposed2:22:17 · ≈ 11:22 AM

Supervisor Wolf? Okay. You know, I think we just need to kind of get a reality check. So you've got a small business that has two scanners. We are asking that they pay $80. That's the cost, $80 and if you look at Ventura County they're charging $180 so I think what we are proposing is well within reason I am going to assume that if I was a small business person, that I would pay the $80 fee if I knew that I was going to get an inspection.

And when the inspection was complete, I would get a certificate so that the consumers who come into my store know that this scanner has been inspected. As opposed to another neighborhood store two blocks away that doesn't have that certificate. So I think if you're talking about in a disadvantaged area, I think in a lot of ways it still helps the consumer. I don't see a lot of business folks here, small business folks who are complaining about an $80 fee.

Again when you compare it to the average which is listed here as 171. Honestly let's just move this forward and then maybe see what happens in a year.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:23:56 · ≈ 11:23 AM

Madam Chair?

CommentFinal ReportProposed2:23:57 · ≈ 11:23 AM

Yes Supervisor Carballo.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:24:01 · ≈ 11:24 AM

Another motion. I would appreciate first of all, I do appreciate Supervisor Wolfe's arguments and that's why initially I seconded the motion but You know, usually I would really move forward with such a motion. But when we consider this economy and everybody's hurting, I think trying to find that balance is always something that's more important today than in other times.

So I appreciate Supervisor Farr's advocacy so I'm going to make a motion that this item come back to us Addressing the water issue and looking at some possible considerations for the small business issue that Supervisor Farr raised. I think it's in this economy when it comes to jobs, when it comes to all those issues that we are concerned about. We made jobs in the economy our number one priority in our ledge program It's important to remember that, I think in this economy. And I thank Supervisor Farr for reminding us it's easy to forget and people are still hurting some more than others and whatever we could do to reach that balance. I think we'd still achieve a win in the direction of the program and the fee structure you brought to us Ms.

Fisher which I thank you for and it's really well done but I think we can win-win If we go in this direction, so I'll make a motion to that effect. I will second.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:25:44 · ≈ 11:25 AM

Supervisor Wolf

CommentFinal ReportProposed2:25:45 · ≈ 11:25 AM

and all I will support the motion. I just think it's unfortunate that we are sending you back once again to come back to us when really the issue of small business is already inherent in what you have presented to us and I look forward to seeing what you're going to bring back. I just want to state for the record that you have done a terrific job in making a well-founded argument and charging business owners based on the number of scanners, not even necessarily whether they are big or small businesses but based on the work that your department will be doing.

I think it's unfortunate we just don't move forward and get this done and start protecting the consumer like we're supposed to. But, I will go along with my colleagues on this one.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:26:45 · ≈ 11:26 AM

Thank you Supervisor Wolf. So,

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:26:48 · ≈ 11:26 AM

yes Ms. Waller?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:26:50 · ≈ 11:26 AM

Chair, I just wanted to make mention of something that you have indicated is very important to you and staff has clearly heard your desire for economic vitality as reflected not only in your ongoing conversations but also in your ledge platform. And as we were putting this together, we did in fact consider that and we believed that it was very important for those small businesses to actually also have a level playing field among them.

lack of paying attention to what the price is, we certainly think that that's not a message we want to send either. So I just want to let you know that your staff truly did give that consideration as they were moving forward.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:27:48 · ≈ 11:27 AM

Thank you Ms. Waller and Miss Fisher, so you have the board's direction and again I want to say that I am very supportive of all of this about 95% of it. I just would like to have you come back with a little more clarification and perhaps a couple more options for the board and some discussion clearly that you've had internally about how to assist small businesses during this time and then we can move forward from there. All right, we have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye.

Aye. Opposed? Motion carries thank you very much. For agenda management purposes we just finished departmental item number two I'm hoping yeah we're going to take about five minute ten-minute break. I'm hoping that we can do items three and four before lunch clearly item number seven Mr. Osgood will be doing after lunch Thank you. We'll be back in about 10 minutes.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:43:47 · ≈ 11:43 AM

Mr. Allen, would you read that into the record

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:43:49 · ≈ 11:43 AM

please? Yes Madam Chair. Members of the Board, Item 3 is from Public Health. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an ordinance for emergency medical services agency fees.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:43:59 · ≈ 11:43 AM

All right. Dr. Wada, good morning

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:44:01 · ≈ 11:44 AM

again. Madam Chair, members of the Board, this item is from Public Health. It's a recommendation that your board consider a revision to fees for emergency medical technician certification, recertification and EMT paramedic accreditations which are performed by our public health department's Emergency Medical Services Agency And with me today, I have Dr. Salvucci again and also Nancy LaPaula who's director of our EMS agency and she will be conducting the presentation. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:44:30 · ≈ 11:44 AM

Thank you. Good morning Mr. Paula. Good morning Madam Chair, Supervisors. As Dr. Wada indicated that this item before you is to your consideration pertaining to realigning our EMS agency fees for emergency medical technician certification, recertification and paramedic local accreditation The EMS agency has not adjusted these fees since 2001, and at the direction of the board we undertook a fee study so that we could realign our fees to cover the costs of providing these services.

The EMS agency is responsible for administering the EMS system and ensuring quality of medical care. Part of that includes ensuring that the personnel that are working within that system meet the requirements are and are qualified. Emergency medical technicians provide basic life support services, and they work alongside with paramedics in the EMS field. And they also may work in hospitals or other health care settings. The EMT is certified at the local EMS agency level, at the county level, and once they are certified, they're certified and able to work throughout California in any system.

EMTs are also required by state law to certify every two years. Paramedics are licensed at the state level and they have additional educational training and they provide advanced life support services, and they're able to administer various medications and drugs in the field. Paramedics licensed at the state level, as I indicated. But they are required if they're going to work within the local EMS system that they are locally accredited within our system to ensure that they are oriented to our system, they understand our hospital resources, they understand our medical treatment protocols in the field and also are oriented to our operational policies.

This is a one-time process for paramedics. Once they're accredited, they are maintained accredited in our county unless for some reason they stop working as a paramedic in the county or they are no longer licensed as a paramedic. In order to ensure that paramedics attend or maintaining this requirement we also require that paramedicts every year submit to us their current license and that we require additional training and education in order to work in our system.

The EMS agency is also authorized to establish fees to cover the cost of providing those services. In our county, we have EMS personnel. In the last year, we certified 114 new EMTs in the county and we recertified 252. Public safety agencies are able to certify their own personnel that are working for them and the EMS agency currently, but the EMS agency currently certifies three fire agencies EMT personnel, that's Santa Maria Fire, Vandenberg Air Force Base in Guadalupe. They are able to become a certifying entity if they choose to and they do not need to use our services and we've reached out to them and communicated to them that we would be raising our fees and that we'd be happy to work with them so that they could not have to be certified through the EMS agency if they determine it is more cost advantage for them to become a certifying entity themselves The other agencies that are certified through us are working for AMR and working in the hospitals.

Last year we also provided new accreditation for 20 paramedics in the county, 19 of those worked for AMR and one was newly employed by County Fire. When we undertook the fee study, the EMS worked with our fiscal department to develop a time study to ensure and track the times staff are on task for overseeing the system. The activity-based fee study conducted was to realign our fees for the cost of services incorporating all the costs in providing those services and including the EMT certification, the recertification, and paramedic local accreditation.

And additionally, it captured the cost of countywide cost allocations. The cost of government services and it was conducted in accordance to the general accounting principles for the auditor's office. That fee study also, part of what was included in that fee study is we looked at the basic initial certification process. We require an application. We also require background checks of all the EMTs that are working in our county that we have to work with them on that. They, we ensure that they have passed the national registry exam In addition to that, for refreshers we need to ensure that they have maintained all their continuing education requirements. We also are notified if there are any additional subsequent arrests on the record that would disqualify them to work in our system.

It's all part of ensuring that we have competent qualified people that are responding to people in their most vulnerable state when they call 911. In addition, for our local paramedics we require that paramedics run a specific number of calls with 10 calls and they have to be at advanced life support services. We review those calls with the paramedics to make sure that they are oriented and acclimated to our system and they understand how our system works.

And the EMS agency is also responsible for conducting investigations if there were any concerns or issues brought to our attention that might require us to take action against an EMT certification, that they would be no longer able to work as an EMTs or paramedic license. We might suspend their local accreditation and refer them to the state for further action.

So the fees before you, we have our current fees and our proposed fees for your consideration. In the board letter you saw that we did a study of all of our EMS agencies there are 31 local EMS agencies in the county Some are multiple jurisdictional counties, regional EMS agencies. And also we included our benchmark counties for your consideration. Most of the counties surveyed that we are in the process of updating their fees just like Santa Barbara County. We hadn't raised our fees since 2001 and as local government is providing direction back to departments to look at realigning our fees to providing the cost of services.

The auditor's office has approved the method that we utilize to determine these fees. We're happy to answer any questions that you have.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:51:21 · ≈ 11:51 AM

Thank you, thank you for your presentation. Any questions for staff at this? Any public speakers for this item?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:51:27 · ≈ 11:51 AM

No request to speak.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:51:29 · ≈ 11:51 AM

Okay, I'll bring it back then to the board. Supervisor Carbajal?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:51:35 · ≈ 11:51 AM

Madam Chair, I got a different microphone

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:51:37 · ≈ 11:51 AM

now.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:51:39 · ≈ 11:51 AM

I think staff did a really good job. It's pretty straightforward. I'll move approval of this new fee structure and certification program. All

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:51:48 · ≈ 11:51 AM

right, do we have a motion? Do we have a second? Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. We will move on then to item number four, also from Public Health. Mr. Allen would you read that into the record

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:52:09 · ≈ 11:52 AM

please? Madam Chair and members of the Board, Item 4 is for Public Health. It's a hearing to consider recommendations running in ordinance amending the Animal Services Fee Schedule.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:52:18 · ≈ 11:52 AM

All right good morning still Ms. Mickiewicz, Ms. Glick thank you for being here

PresenterMichelle MickiewiczPublic Health Department and here with me is Jan Glick our Director of Animal SeProposedself-stated2:52:33 · ≈ 11:52 AM

Thank you Madam Chair, members of the board. I'm Michelle Mickiewicz, I'm the Deputy Director of the Public Health Department and here with me is Jan Glick our Director of Animal Services. We're here to present to your board on animal services fees and ask your board to consider the introduction and first reading of an ordinance to revise these fees. I'd like to take this opportunity to let you know that we'll be returning to your board within the next year or so.

To report on progress since the Board adopted the Responsible Pet Owner Ordinance and for now, I'd like to report That we're seeing real progress with increasing the number of dogs that are licensed in our county and the number of pets that are spayed and neutered. And at our county clinic in Santa Maria, we're seeing a significant increase in the number of spay-and-neuter procedures that we're performing. We're not the only provider of these services. Many others, animal welfare agencies, private veterinarians are also involved.

animal welfare partners that work with us to expand the availability of low-cost spay neuter for our low income communities. And you may have seen in the paper today, in the news press there was an article about a mobile van that will be being done by the Care for Poros organization With support from the Humane Society and other animal welfare organizations to provide mobile spay and neuter, to reach out and provide access to the low income neighborhoods. So we're really pleased to be able to provide this level of service and to partner with these organizations.

And I would like to turn it over to Jan Glick so she can present to you about the services we provide in the fees that were proposing.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:54:22 · ≈ 11:54 AM

Thank you.

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction2:54:24 · ≈ 11:54 AM

Good morning, Madam Chair and members of the board. The Public Health Department request to increase fees is done periodically to keep pace with increased costs and our industry fees. The fee increase being proposed is approximately 17%. This increase is based on a COLA to the current fee schedule for the fees charged to consumers for owned pets. Consumers are not charged fees related to services provided for stray animals or unowned animals.

Our partnering cities and volunteer groups have been advised through meetings and correspondence Our new fees relate to wellness clinics that include our weekly rabies clinics held at the Santa Maria Animal Center, and they provide basic care. Those fees are recategorized from prior fees on the schedule that really just weren't a good fit. Certain fees are set by the state and remain unchanged. These include the penalty for an unaltered animal running at large that's been impounded, and also for rabies vaccinations.

Animal Services does offer discount fees for seniors on dog licensing, and we have quite a few tiers in our licensing schedule for dog licensing ranging from six months up to a three-year term. Animal services also periodically offer specials or promotions on adoptions, such as our upcoming Valentine's put a little love in your life promotion that's going to start this Saturday and run through the following Saturday.

So I'd be happy to take any questions you have on our proposal for fee increases.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:56:10 · ≈ 11:56 AM

Thank you Miss Glick. Questions from the board? Any public speakers?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:56:16 · ≈ 11:56 AM

No request to speak, Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:56:18 · ≈ 11:56 AM

All right. Supervisor Carbajal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:56:21 · ≈ 11:56 AM

Again it's pretty straightforward I really appreciate staffs good work on this and I'll move approval

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:56:28 · ≈ 11:56 AM

There's a motion, do I have a second? Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries thank you very much another excellent job we have two things that we need to take care of before we break for lunch the first is that the motion that was made earlier by Supervisor Carbajal and I think a second by Supervisor Lavinino to continue item number five to the 14th needs to be amended so that it can be moved to March 6 because there's more noticing that needs to happen.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:56:57 · ≈ 11:56 AM

So moved

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:56:59 · ≈ 11:56 AM

Okay, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right so that is now continued to March 6th. The second thing is Mr. Marshall we need you to read the closed session agenda and then we do have one member of the public that wants to speak to that before we break.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:57:19 · ≈ 11:57 AM

Thank You Madam Chair You have a full agenda today. Under existing litigation, you have Naples Coalition et al v. County of Santa Barbara. You have Powell v. County of Santa Barbara. Peterson v. County of Santa Barbara. You have one case initiating litigation deciding to litigate. You have conference with real property negotiator. Near Vandenberg Village, APN 097-370-038.

And you also have Public Employee Performance Evaluation, HR Director and Ag Commissioner.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:57:52 · ≈ 11:57 AM

Thank you. So Mr. Allen we have a member of the public who wants to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:57:56 · ≈ 11:57 AM

speak? Yes Madam Chairman is the word. We have one request to speak from Benjamin Pollard.

CommentBenjamin PellenProposedself-stated2:58:10 · ≈ 11:58 AM

Good morning, members of the board. Thank you, Madam Chair for hearing me speak today. My name is Benjamin Pellen and I'm here to speak about my father Sam Pellen. My father is 73 years old and has been hit especially hard by the recession. He's fighting bankruptcy and foreclosure like many Americans during these tough times. I'm a recent college graduate and I've been helping my father as he has been negotiating with the bank on remodification of his mortgage.

Unfortunately, that process has failed and we have been told by the bank that on February 27th our home will be foreclosed on. Every challenge is an opportunity and we got a chance to do a short sale that will benefit all stakeholders involved. However, we have lost her buyer on our short sale because of statutory liens against our property. My father has worked diligently with the billing department to complete all requested work and has paid a substantial amount to get all required permits.

We've provided a timeline events to county, excuse me, we have provided a timeline of events to County Council and I would appreciate your attention on this matter. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:59:21 · ≈ 11:59 AM

Thank you, Mr. Pallin. All right the board will recess to closed session and we will be back at 1 o'clock? 115? That's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:59:29 · ≈ 11:59 AM

possible.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call2:59:30 · ≈ 11:59 AM

Okay, we'll say 115.

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One small thing might change the world or maybe just one day. But one day added to another and many things can change. All these days add up to years, and these years become our lives. The moments that we cherish most no longer pass us by. The moments that we cherish most no longer pass us by. You.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:03:55 · ≈ 12:03 PM

This building is truly a treasure. It's set right, it's built right. It's been a really big part of many many people's lives in Lompoc. You know marriages, funerals, proms...it's all that but it's even it's just beautiful and it's a special part of Lompoc and it is truly truly a treasure and very unique very unique

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:04:22 · ≈ 12:04 PM

The building was originally constructed as a Veterans Memorial Building with a main hall, a minor hall, a reception room off of the lobby, a kitchen off of the minor hall to serve that minor hall and then in the opposing wing office space and rooms for the various veterans. It has this grand civic sense to it. It's at the end of a very long boulevard shaded by wonderful pine trees, gives you a very strong sense of pride and civic nature to it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed3:04:56 · ≈ 12:04 PM

This building has been here since the early 1930s and its location is beautiful. And there are many people who have tremendous memories here. When I took over as project coordinator, I had a lot of people in the community contact me. I was married there, I had my reception there. I came here for proms and a lot of us did that. A lot of memories for us.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:05:20 · ≈ 12:05 PM

I think we acquired the first parcel in 1919, which happened to be the abandoned end of H Street. And then in later years a health care services public health clinic operated out of that modular and some of those offices that now constitute Joanie Gray's office currently.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:05:40 · ≈ 12:05 PM

Where where I am right now was a courtroom and then it grew into a clinic for the county and that's when all this carpet and this stuff went in. And so now we've got, we're bringing it back to what it was.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:05:57 · ≈ 12:05 PM

The courts operated out of there for a short period of time as they did in many veterans memorial buildings as kind of a community court.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:06:07 · ≈ 12:06 PM

Same thing in Santa Maria, the original courtroom is the original was in the Veterans Memorial Building and then back in the wow it must have been The 50s, they built a court complex and left that Veterans Memorial building out of it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:06:23 · ≈ 12:06 PM

Well we think it's a tool that is always admired by the visitors here at the building. The screw was placed here As a result of the Honda disaster back in 1923 where about 3,000 of our comrades succumbed to a shipwreck out at Honda Point.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed3:06:44 · ≈ 12:06 PM

But the Navy said that is not a propeller wing nuts that's a screw. They call it a wing nut because we're Air Force but that's what the Navy calls it they call it a screw

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed3:06:58 · ≈ 12:06 PM

My husband came to Boy Scouts here at one point as well. During the war he used to come and harass the people up in the towers, all the kids in town did I think.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:07:12 · ≈ 12:07 PM

This was during Second World War this facility was used as a lookout point for Japanese aircraft in the area. Organizations that were civil defense operated, they also were formed under a numbered military outfit and this was true up until 1944 and they deactivated the civil defense under the military at that time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed3:07:41 · ≈ 12:07 PM

A lot of people came here for the clinic A lot of people came here for various events. I came here as a child because I was involved in an organization that had a parade in Lompoc and this is where we started the parade, and I was actually a little angel believe it or not.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 23Proposed3:07:59 · ≈ 12:07 PM

Probably starting in 2006, a group of veterans who used the building came to the Board of Supervisors and really expressed their dismay with the conditions of the building. It was run down it had not been being maintained properly and they were very exasperated and with good rights and they came to the board and said you know help us we want to Restore this building and we want it to be an integral part of the city of Lompoc.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:08:28 · ≈ 12:08 PM

We knew it was a beautiful building, but we couldn't seem to manage to manage it. And it was just going in disrepair. It wasn't nice people didn't like using it. And so what we finally did was we entered into a county community partnership. And the community is made up of the veterans of volunteers and of the county

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed3:08:53 · ≈ 12:08 PM

We started with the restoration committee which comprised people from the local community, a lot of people from the Lompoc Veterans Council who have a tremendous history and investment in this building. And so we've been meeting as a restoration committee until we got our 501c3 status and then we became a foundation and that's how we continue to operate.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:09:15 · ≈ 12:09 PM

The building was lacking presence There's no one, there was no one here a lot of the time. And in order to get into the building or to use the building you had to contact the veterans or somebody in Santa Barbara. So we said well just move my office over here and that has been a fabulous experience for us because now we love the building, we think we're bringing it back and people like having someone here all the time And Kathy Martinez is my assistant that manages getting people here and then helping them with the building. And Susan Wernstrom is also here, and that presence is very important.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:09:56 · ≈ 12:09 PM

Landmarks are designated for the outside look of the building. Few of them designate interior spaces. Now why that's important to realize is that anything could occur on the inside of a building and not violate the landmark designation. So the Lompoc Vets building, like I say has a terrific degree of integrity. It's not very difficult to find out what the chair molding looked like because the chair molding is still on the wall. Not difficult to understand how the windows were put together because the windows are still in the building although they might be rusty and not work well and energy inefficient but we can build new ones and use the old ones as the pattern So oftentimes it's difficult for the general public to understand why does it take so long to do these projects, why does it cost so much money to do these projects.

And it's because of this detailed work which is driven by the Department of Interior Standards. The primary aesthetic on that building is seen from the intersection of H and Locust and that's the red tile roof Well in this case we want to take the existing tile off carefully, stockpile it, fix the roof and put the same tile back on. So when we're done, you should not be able to tell or tell with very little impact that we ever did anything to the roof other than the fact that the copper gutter will shine for a little while until the weather oxidizes it. With respect to Joni Gray's office, they are using rooms that have always been there but just used for another purpose.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:11:43 · ≈ 12:11 PM

Well, to me this office is absolutely beautiful. I mean we brought the flag up from Santa Barbara and then the ceiling was that cottage cheese scuff so we brought the ceiling up and brought it down but what it does is it gives you the feeling of what this room was like and what this building was like when it was built. Because

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed3:12:03 · ≈ 12:12 PM

when I came in one day and found the man doing the floors I went oh my gosh I have to use those floors So every time I picked an accent color for the turquoise or actually it's not an accent, it's the walls in this office. I've looked at the floor.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:12:22 · ≈ 12:12 PM

This building was completed in 1935-36 and black and white checkerboard squared floors were all the rave. And while we wanted to keep the checkerboard feel No one really liked the black and white checker either. So we just turned to the wall tile that frames the Wayne's Code in that room, and picked two colors. One of them happens to be a black, a dark color, and one is a blue color.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:12:50 · ≈ 12:12 PM

You take a look at the ceiling and the open beams and the beautiful use of wood that you've got there. And it was, as you know, WTA project, and there were some top quality stuff used. The auditorium will house 600 people, and the ceiling is really incredible if you're a structural engineer. I'm not, but you can see how all the boards and wood that they put together So that it basically supports itself.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:13:22 · ≈ 12:13 PM

If you took an Eggo waffle out of the freezer and you overcooked it, let's say put in the toaster just a little longer than it should be just so it's a little firmer and you put up piece of cardboard, heavy cardboard on it and you put a scale on it and then you piled dishes and bricks or whatever from the yard on that waffle. You would be surprised how much weight that waffle would hold.

And it's a combination of the thin void and the ridges of the waffle and the smaller those are the stronger the waffle is. Very efficient, very elegant and interesting to look at when you're standing in that room. Amazing.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed3:14:18 · ≈ 12:14 PM

We need to replace all the windows in the auditorium. They are deteriorated. We're doing some painting and the east wing basically where we are now is completed so now we're starting some color changes on the west wing

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:14:33 · ≈ 12:14 PM

This is called the trophy room and they use this for special gatherings. And again, the goal is to get rid of the tile and redo the paint job so that it blends and fits with the era.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:14:46 · ≈ 12:14 PM

It was designed as a trophy room, a place where the veterans could display war memorabilia and awards and important members of the organization. And then the next room over is the dining hall

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:15:01 · ≈ 12:15 PM

These two are the next way we're going. And then we've again got the great beams and use of wood, and what they told me is that they're going to make that lighter. It's a little bit dark right now.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:15:17 · ≈ 12:15 PM

The kitchen eventually under a HUD grant will be redone. You know, the stove will be replaced. All of the appliances will be replaced. All the cabinets will be redone so As you would describe a commercial kitchen that is capable of being used by caterers to serve the building, right now they really can't do that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:15:40 · ≈ 12:15 PM

But that's the original stove! Yeah it was in 1936. Isn't that amazing? It's still warm because they were using it for their event.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:15:49 · ≈ 12:15 PM

Outside the kitchen which is the east parking lot that will be upgraded a little bit to make it easier for caterers to get in and out and that's how they would enter the building and bring their supplies in I personally think the building is just amazing because we don't build civic buildings anymore that have that sense of presence. You know if you look back through our early history, you'll see that city halls, courthouses, even hospitals and occasionally jails were all placed so that they communicated a sense of strength, a sense of civic pride and a sense of civic identity.

And nowadays we don't do that. You know, we put city halls in strip malls or in industrial parks but that building communicates civic pride and stature and it has since the day it was constructed. And that's worth keeping and preserving.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed3:16:49 · ≈ 12:16 PM

Just about anybody that we approach usually has a very positive response, either through providing labor or donations. We received some donations from the community that have been very important. They see the commitment that we have to restore this building to what it was at one time. They see the enthusiasm and interest in the community in support of this building and it just kind of generates a lot of interest in wanting to see us achieve our goal.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:17:20 · ≈ 12:17 PM

So this is an incredible public-county partnership. We even won an award for it. CSAC recognized the Veterans Memorial Building as one of their honorable mentions in partnership ideas that have worked.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed3:17:39 · ≈ 12:17 PM

Soon after we started, we had an open house and people were just excited to come up and see the building. And continually I hear from the community that we love what's going on, keep up the good work, so we are going to do that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:17:52 · ≈ 12:17 PM

If we can, we want to encourage folks to use the building. And we want to remind you that you can have meetings in the daytime, meetings at night, parties, banquets, weddings, funerals all those kinds of things because the building is here to serve you and we've got everything from the auditorium size to a small conference size like where you and I are sitting now and the price is great, so they're going to find that their building is back in their life.

Thank you. Yeah.

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PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:20:24 · ≈ 12:20 PM

Hi, welcome to Healthy for Life. I'm Dr. Scott McCann, Director of Health Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'm excited to introduce my new co-host Jacqueline Nielsen also with public health

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:20:36 · ≈ 12:20 PM

Thank you, Scott. I am so excited to be here. I work as a health center administrator in the public health department and I help manage our healthcare clinics or healthcare centers. And to tell you a little bit about myself, so let the audience be familiar with me, I'm local to Santa Barbara. I graduated from high school here and have been around and part of my hobbies are to actually live a healthy lifestyle. So whether that's jogging, cooking healthy, going to farmers market, taking a walk I just love trying to stay healthy and promote that amongst my friends as well. And, I'm really fortunate to be here to learn more about healthy behaviors.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:21:14 · ≈ 12:21 PM

Well it sounds like you're a model of healthy behavior and welcome to the show!

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:21:19 · ≈ 12:21 PM

Thank you!

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:21:20 · ≈ 12:21 PM

So for those of you who are just joining us, Healthy For Life is about promoting healthy behavior and preventing health problems. We try to cover tips, model some healthy behaviors. We'll have a cooking segment in a few minutes and some activities so it should be fun.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed3:21:35 · ≈ 12:21 PM

Should be!

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:21:36 · ≈ 12:21 PM

So, today we're focusing on healthy behaviors that apply during the summer months around sun exposure and heat and fire and swimming in the ocean and all of those things where people can get hurt or have a great time if you're careful.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:21:52 · ≈ 12:21 PM

Some of the most fun time can be in the sun and some of the most dangerous times.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:21:56 · ≈ 12:21 PM

Exactly, exactly so first though people have loved the cooking segment so much we're going to start with one of those and we are fortunate enough to have two little girls friends of some of our colleagues at work Sarah and Bryn are going to show us one of the recipes from the Everyday Healthy Meals Cookbook that you can get for free through the Public Health Department by calling me, Scott, at 681-5270.

Or you can look at it online. It's California Champions for Change. I'm not going to spell it all out but if you Google that you can find the Everyday Healthy Meals Cookbook online And it's got a great low-cost, healthy meals that are easy to prepare. And even kids can do it. So we'll take a look at that video. So let's look at it! All

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 25Proposed3:22:50 · ≈ 12:22 PM

right. Welcome to our cooking show. My name is Sarah and my name is Bryn. Today we're going to make black bean and corn pitas. The ingredients we will need is one can of low sodium black beans One cup frozen corn. One cup tomatoes. One avocado that we already have chopped. One clove of garlic, that we also chopped. And parsley. Some lemon juice. Some cayenne pepper.

Two whole wheat pitas, which we have here. In this real recipe you would be using mozzarella cheese but we are not going to add it because of my diet. So the first step is to drain and rinse the beans, but we've already done that. So we're going to put them in this medium sized bowl. Do you love beans? I love beans. And then tomatoes. A cup of tomatoes. Okay.

See corn on the list. Okay, and corn. So how much? A cup of corn. Okay and then you can add the parsley. How much? One teaspoon. I'm going to put in a teaspoon of parsley. And then We need avocado, and garlic. Lemon juice, let's see how much lemon juice. Two teaspoons. And as much cayenne pepper as to your taste. We've pre-cut the pita bread into little pockets.

So we're going to just sort of mix this a little bit. We have to stir this up. Mmm, this looks delicious doesn't it Sarah? Yes! And then we're gonna spoon it into the pockets. Wonderful. This is so good. Thank you for watching our cooking show and see you next time!

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:26:59 · ≈ 12:26 PM

They are so cute, those girls. And that looked really tasty. So remember if you're interested in that contact Scott.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:27:04 · ≈ 12:27 PM

Yes 6815270 will send you the Everyday Healthy Meals Cookbook and you can cook up some of those great recipes. So as I mentioned earlier, we're going to talk about summertime health behaviors or summer safety. We're calling this show and a lot of that's around sun exposure but first back-to-school update from Jacqueline.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:27:29 · ≈ 12:27 PM

Yes, unfortunately the end of summer takes us back to school for so many students and we have a little update this year. Pertussis if you've heard about that in the news we've had an outbreak the past year about pertussis. So there's a new requirement now that if you're going into junior high or high school this is relevant for both you need to have an updated pertussis shots or vaccination So please contact your health care provider, your primary care provider. Go to them first and see if they have it available and make sure you get that on record. There will be a little leeway I've heard of about a month starting school but it's better to get a jump on that now while the vaccine is already available for your schedule than trying to get it in right when you started school.

For those of you that didn't know, Pertussis is also the whooping cough.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:28:14 · ≈ 12:28 PM

That's the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:28:14 · ≈ 12:28 PM

vaccine for

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:28:15 · ≈ 12:28 PM

the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:28:15 · ≈ 12:28 PM

whooping cough.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:28:16 · ≈ 12:28 PM

And you don't want to get that as childhood one wears off and you need it again before junior high or high school. Very important.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:28:23 · ≈ 12:28 PM

And just a little plug for the health care centers if you have gone to your primary care provider but either you've gone and they don't have it available or you don't have a primary care provider, the Public Health Department is offering a few small clinics for those students that don't have a

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:28:39 · ≈ 12:28 PM

provider.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:28:40 · ≈ 12:28 PM

So contact our website and we have more information on

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:28:42 · ≈ 12:28 PM

that. Very important, yeah. Well let's talk about the fun part of summer. And the sun is like you said, a wonderful thing and it can be a devastating thing when you get skin cancer particularly that metastasizes So, got to coat your skin. Got to wear sunscreen. I think we've got a slide talking about this. Turns out you don't need the highest SPF, 30 even 15 if you put it on thickly and thoroughly. And a lot of people just smear a little on their nose and they think they're done but you really have to put it on every skin surface that's exposed to the sun.

Reapply it every couple of hours because it does wear off over time especially if you go swimming or sweating

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:29:26 · ≈ 12:29 PM

I

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:29:26 · ≈ 12:29 PM

think that's what's the most

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:29:27 · ≈ 12:29 PM

challenging is to remember to put it on after you've gone in the water.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:29:31 · ≈ 12:29 PM

Yes, yes people go to the beach or pool and they get out and they think oh it's still good even though it says waterproof it does degrade a little bit in the water The other thing is look for the UVB ultraviolet type B and UVA Way to remember it is UV burn, protects you from burning. UVA though rays, ultraviolet rays A type cause skin cancer just as much and so read your tube of sunscreen And it might also say broad spectrum or photo-stabilized means that it will cover you in both UVA and UVB rays.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:30:11 · ≈ 12:30 PM

So much science behind sunscreen.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:30:13 · ≈ 12:30 PM

There is, but really important. Of course wearing a hat, staying in the shade when you can. You know people might love the feeling of the warmth of the sun but it's not good for your skin

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:30:25 · ≈ 12:30 PM

It's not good and I would say it is feels the best to have a nice little tan or just be warm from the sun. But for babies, our next topic for infants zero to six months you actually want to protect them and keep them out of the sun as much as you can because if they're soft delicate skin it's not good for them to be in the sun so if you want to try to give either protection like a sunshade or an umbrella a little hat like a little bonnet. I love seeing little babies with bonnets And if they are going to be exposed in the sun, try to use at least a 30 SPF. And don't apply it anywhere where babies are always grabbing things and putting them in their mouth and poking themselves because they're just learning all those new spaces. So try not to put it on their hands or something they're going to touch or their eyes or their mouth because that could irritate them.

Get into their eyes and you'll have a whole other problem with the sun.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:31:11 · ≈ 12:31 PM

Really good point. Babies can burn so quickly and easily, their skin is so delicate. Well let's talk about heat because this summer has been cool here but you go inland and I think in August-September sometimes you get the hottest weather Recommended not to do the intense physical activity at the hottest parts of the day, usually from about 10 in the morning until 3 or 4 in the afternoon. So if you can avoid it great. If you have to be physically active on those hot days take a break every few minutes, every 15-20 minutes get in the shade, get in an air conditioned room something to let your body cool down a little bit

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:31:51 · ≈ 12:31 PM

And something else you want to do about every 20 minutes is actually stay hydrated. You drink plenty of water, very very important and if you're going to be exercising or in hot conditions or something where you feel yourself kind of wearing down make sure you drink something about every 15-20 minutes that's...and if you're gonna be there for longer like an hour so would you say? You wanna start drinking something that has a little bit extra in it like carbohydrates or electrolytes to reboost your system and try to avoid Things like soda or alcohol, it seems counterintuitive. You want to drink something and it doesn't matter what you're drinking. It actually does because it's a diuretic and it can dehydrate you rather than hydrate you.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:32:27 · ≈ 12:32 PM

Right, caffeine and alcohol sort of suck the water out. One of my

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:32:31 · ≈ 12:32 PM

preferred drinks is cocoa water. It's natural, has tons of electrolytes, tastes good.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:32:35 · ≈ 12:32 PM

Sounds good.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:32:36 · ≈ 12:32 PM

Gets you that boost.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:32:37 · ≈ 12:32 PM

And water is nature's hydrator. So I think we even have a slide on the heat issues. One thing you hear about sadly is people leaving pets or even sometimes infants or older people in a car on a hot day and that is just not right because the inside of a car closed up especially, it can get into couple hundred degrees in a few minutes and literally kill a living thing. So just don't leave anything anybody or living thing in the car

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:33:07 · ≈ 12:33 PM

It's really dangerous. Even just leaving the window open a little bit is not

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:33:10 · ≈ 12:33 PM

enough, you know?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:33:11 · ≈ 12:33 PM

It's so hot.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:33:12 · ≈ 12:33 PM

Imagine

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:33:13 · ≈ 12:33 PM

getting into your car if you just jump out to go to the grocery store real quickly. It's so hot in there.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:33:17 · ≈ 12:33 PM

Right and people think oh it's just a couple minutes but sealed up it really becomes an oven and you don't want to subject anybody to that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:33:24 · ≈ 12:33 PM

But another way to stay cool when it is hot like that, is to go in the water. So some water safety tips that we do have for you is well what are some of the problems with water? Let me back up a little bit. There's accidental drowning, jumping into things that are maybe too shallow, boating accidents because we do like to be on the water in a boat especially and then drinking water can actually be a problem too if it's not purified or clean.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:33:50 · ≈ 12:33 PM

Yeah a lot of water related risks

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:33:52 · ≈ 12:33 PM

Yeah, so I think we have a slide on water safety. We could show that? Great! And so you never want to leave your child, your young child near the water unsupervised even if they've got little floaty devices or some type of inflatable toy or something that they can use to latch onto. If they can't swim, you still want to watch them And you mentioned diving into

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PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:34:34 · ≈ 12:34 PM

pools or even rivers, lakes where you don't know how deep it is. And every year up here in the Santa Ynez River you hear about people jumping off the rocks into the water hitting in a shallow area or hitting another rock and being paralyzed or even killed sometimes so check it's not that hard check the water depth before you jump in or dive in If it's deep enough, you know I would probably double your body height if you're six feet dive into 12 feet of water. You want that buffer because you hit the bottom and you can do some serious injury. Better be safe

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:35:06 · ≈ 12:35 PM

than sorry.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:35:06 · ≈ 12:35 PM

Absolutely. Water is just such a risk and of course diving as risky behavior as it is.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:35:11 · ≈ 12:35 PM

Head

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:35:11 · ≈ 12:35 PM

first.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:35:13 · ≈ 12:35 PM

Especially if you can't see the water, if it's

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:35:14 · ≈ 12:35 PM

not

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:35:15 · ≈ 12:35 PM

clear.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:35:15 · ≈ 12:35 PM

You know

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:35:15 · ≈ 12:35 PM

sometimes in the ocean the logs are floating a little under the

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:35:18 · ≈ 12:35 PM

surface so you want to be

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:35:19 · ≈ 12:35 PM

careful if you

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:35:20 · ≈ 12:35 PM

can't see the bottom. And it could look shallow and I mean look deep and be shallow. You don't want that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:35:24 · ≈ 12:35 PM

You don't want that. And another thing with those kinds of bodies of water whether it's just stream, you don't want to ingest that water. Saltwater, you understand it doesn't taste good, you don't want to ingest it. But in a river or in a creek, if you're camping don't be tempted to drink that water. It's not healthy.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:35:39 · ≈ 12:35 PM

Right it might look clear but then you find out there is a cow upstream pooping in the water and your drinking their leftover. In fact my son got Giardia which is a protozoan parasite a few years back at the Santa Ynez River here he was a little guy swimming and just swallowed enough water to get one of those bugs He was sick for months, and the doctors didn't know what it was. And finally they diagnosed it, and he got treated for it. But he had terrible stomach cramps and diarrhea. It was just very painful. So yeah, boil your water, purify your water.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:36:15 · ≈ 12:36 PM

Purify your water. Boil your water if you're going to go backpacking for a while. Make sure you take the right equipment with you so you can do all the things you're supposed to do so that you can drink it because naturally We've tainted it a little bit.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:36:26 · ≈ 12:36 PM

Yeah, and bring along some bottled water. Always

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:36:29 · ≈ 12:36 PM

bring some bottled

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:36:30 · ≈ 12:36 PM

water. Be prepared. Now we're going to switch over to ocean safety and boating safety that you mentioned here as our slide shows. You know the currents can be terribly strong and so it's best to swim where there is a lifeguard on duty or at a beach where you really know that current if there is no lifeguard because I as a surfer by the way that was me up in the corner Slashing at Debra on my longboard.

But yeah, you can easily get sucked out. You can get exhausted struggling to get in so what's recommended if you are feeling the rip current pulling you out Swim parallel to the shore so you're not in that current, which usually is in a narrow area. Swim up or down the beach a little bit then try to come in and you'll feel it. Maybe wait for a wave and it will push you in a little bit but if you can struggle against a rip current and get exhausted. If you do float on your back that's the best bet. Most people take deep breaths and keep your face above water by floating on your back until you rest up a little bit And then try to swim in where there's no rip pulling you out. But unfortunately a lot of people get either drowned or get real panicky when they're stuck in a current and that's really not necessary if you know what to do.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:37:48 · ≈ 12:37 PM

I think that's an important part, to stay calm. I mean I've been caught in riptides before and you think oh I'm going to swim in, I'm going to swim in and you can never get in. Swim parallel which again doesn't seem like the way you're gonna get in but you can get out of it. It is definitely scary. Oh yeah. It's a traumatizing experience.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:38:03 · ≈ 12:38 PM

Definitely.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:38:04 · ≈ 12:38 PM

Something else that can be scary in the water is when you're towed behind a boat. It can be fun! Boating safety though, very high incidence of accidents. Locally if you're going to go to Lake Nessie Mento or if you're going to be out in the water and the ocean, you need to make sure that you have the right protection which would be like a PFD, a personal flotation device, or a life jacket or life vest

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:38:26 · ≈ 12:38 PM

And that's a really good point. These are the life vests that are made of foam, these are not inflatable toys that can pop and leave you stranded but they're approved life vests.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:38:38 · ≈ 12:38 PM

Approved life vests and there are certain laws again that you need to be aware of if you're on a boat that's 26 feet or less, if you're over 13 it's required that you keep a life vest on.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:38:48 · ≈ 12:38 PM

Under 13.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:38:49 · ≈ 12:38 PM

Under 13 thank you. Not over 13 we might need some

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:38:52 · ≈ 12:38 PM

help too. Yeah couldn't hurt.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:38:53 · ≈ 12:38 PM

And if you're on a jet ski, that's another time you're going to have to be. Or if you're being towed behind something, like you said ripping it up on a wakeboard or what are those other things?

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:39:04 · ≈ 12:39 PM

Kayak, water skis. Any of those things

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:39:07 · ≈ 12:39 PM

you need to make sure that you have it on. It's

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:39:08 · ≈ 12:39 PM

really

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:39:09 · ≈ 12:39 PM

important and

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:39:09 · ≈ 12:39 PM

I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:39:09 · ≈ 12:39 PM

think we have a... Do

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:39:11 · ≈ 12:39 PM

we have a slide? Yeah, we've got a slide. Well, I think the one that tells about all of these. You mentioned not drinking alcohol. You hear of these boating accidents. People have been drinking all day. Hit people or other boats or rocks or whatever. Just use your...it's like driving a car. Exactly like driving a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:39:29 · ≈ 12:39 PM

car. You want to get behind the wheel of someone in a car that was driving. You don't want to get behind the wheel of someone on a boat or any motorized vehicle when they're drinking. If

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:39:38 · ≈ 12:39 PM

you're going to drink, have a designated boat driver. Boat

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:39:40 · ≈ 12:39 PM

driver. Designated boat driver. I'll take that job.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:39:43 · ≈ 12:39 PM

That's right. I know you love boats.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:39:45 · ≈ 12:39 PM

I do and another part of the boating that you want to be aware of especially in the lakes or if you're being towed by something is stay away from the propeller. Very dangerous part of the boat. People get

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:39:54 · ≈ 12:39 PM

caught up. Yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:39:55 · ≈ 12:39 PM

Not good.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:39:56 · ≈ 12:39 PM

So just common sense, but things people forget when they're having fun and goofing around. Now the next category is fire safety. Most people know we have had some terrible fires in the last several years here in Santa Barbara. Lost a lot of homes and few lives even. But common sense again, we've got a slide that lists these steps to keep the vegetation clear around your house. Of course common sense but you gotta do it. It's a little work but it could save your home and yourself from being burned.

What else? An evacuation plan. It sounds maybe corny or too much effort, but know your kids, you, how to get out of the house if you have an upstairs, back, really from anywhere in the house, how do you get out a window, a ladder if you have a multi-story house, some evacuation plan to get out of there and plan to get your pets because sadly pets... And key documents. Have those ready to grab and get out quickly, but we at the Public Health Department end up helping people with some big animals, horses, cows. We're not just talking about cats and dogs which everybody should have a pet carrier if they have a smaller cat or dog to put in and get out of there because just releasing them they can get lost hit by car not know which way to go and fire can be dangerous for them as well

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:41:21 · ≈ 12:41 PM

And fire can also be fun, but you have to be safe with it when it's fun. Like at a campfire.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:41:25 · ≈ 12:41 PM

Oh right!

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:41:25 · ≈ 12:41 PM

Good point. So if you're going to have a campfire, if you're going camping make sure you use a sanctioned area like a campfire ring for example and don't do things that would encourage fires to be started like throwing your cigarette butt out the window. I can't stand throwing things out of the car anyways that's a whole other topic. But, you know it's lit. It's abut even though there is no flame it can start, an ember can start a fire very very dangerous.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:41:52 · ≈ 12:41 PM

Shooting in unapproved areas I know bullets hit rocks and cause sparks that kind

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:41:57 · ≈ 12:41 PM

of thing. Fireworks and other things that can cause sparks and just bad ideas so we want to try to prevent that from happening And if you do have a campfire and you do it in the right area, that's contained circle, make sure you put it out when you're done. Whether using water to dampen it or you've got a damper or you shovel dirt on top of it, don't ever leave it unattended and make sure you put it out when you're done.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:42:18 · ≈ 12:42 PM

Yeah, because the wind comes up blows the sparks into dry grass and you've

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:42:23 · ≈ 12:42 PM

got a fire. Which we definitely have had in this county

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:42:25 · ≈ 12:42 PM

recently. Oh yeah well again common sense. Barbecues one more thing too. Fun things that could go wrong people putting on too much lighter fluid not letting it soak in so you have this cloud of gas that you can't see but you light it and it'll flame up wearing loose clothing that might get ignited by the flame Letting the gas build up when you turn on the propane type, all of those things can cause severe burns and result in some serious problems.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:42:57 · ≈ 12:42 PM

And I've actually heard stories where people are using lighter fluid and they're squishing it or spraying it down onto the fire and then the stream catches a flame and goes back up.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:43:07 · ≈ 12:43 PM

I can attest we were camping one time and a friend of mine added fluid to the burning fire and it backed up, lit the can He threw it, it landed under the gas tank of my car. I kicked it out from underneath spewing gas everywhere and basically our whole campground was in flames but we were able to put it out with a lot of dirt. So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:43:27 · ≈ 12:43 PM

if we were filming that could have been a what not to

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:43:29 · ≈ 12:43 PM

do? What not to do yes so that's a good example what not to do Be careful, don't add fuel. All of those good things. One more thing we should mention we hadn't planned to but because we had the first case of West Nile virus in Santa Barbara County and for State of California first case this summer in Santa Barbara It's transmitted by a mosquito, so you don't want mosquito bites anyway. But West Nile can be a fairly severe illness. It can also be mild but it's actually a bird flu that mosquitoes get from biting birds and then biting people or other animals and you get this viral flu.

But you can protect it the same way you would protect yourself from mosquito bites and that is the DEET or other repellent on your skin Thick clothing so they can't bite you, if you can wear that. What else? Standing water is where they breed and live. So pools, buckets of water that just sit. We have a fountain in our backyard and I put a little chlorine or bromine bleach in it and kill stuff so it won't become a breeding pond. You

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:44:38 · ≈ 12:44 PM

can also get mosquito pellets.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:44:41 · ≈ 12:44 PM

Exactly! Little

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:44:42 · ≈ 12:44 PM

rings that you can dump into...

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:44:44 · ≈ 12:44 PM

Those will work. So all kinds, but just be aware that mosquitoes can carry... They're dangerous. Yeah they can be more dangerous than just an itchy bite.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:44:51 · ≈ 12:44 PM

And I think I've actually seen sun protection, that sun block that also includes

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:44:56 · ≈ 12:44 PM

sun repellent. Really? Includes mosquito repellant. That'd be nice. Two for one. Yeah exactly. So I think if you do these safety tips, you'll have a fun and healthy summer.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:45:04 · ≈ 12:45 PM

Fun and

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:45:04 · ≈ 12:45 PM

safe summer? Yeah exactly! That's what we would

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:45:06 · ≈ 12:45 PM

like to see.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:45:06 · ≈ 12:45 PM

And that's what we want you to do. Not worry but use common sense and take care of yourself. So we're going to close actually with a video, a friend of ours at the Public Health Department, Cormac O'Brien filmed. He's a hang glider, parasailor.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:45:22 · ≈ 12:45 PM

Likes to be up in the air.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:45:24 · ≈ 12:45 PM

He does and he did a video of himself jumping off one of the points, peaks up here. A local point? Yeah above Carpentry it looked like and then flying out. It was just such a cool video. Is this a healthy

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:45:35 · ≈ 12:45 PM

activity we are promoting or is this something we

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:45:37 · ≈ 12:45 PM

were kind of enjoying There's definitely some risk. He went through hours of training, and you have to get certified. It's a really good point. Don't just get your sheet out and jump off the cliff. You need to go through the certification and training if you're going to do this. and make sure you know what you're doing before you try any of this. But it looks like some very cool video that we wanted

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed3:45:59 · ≈ 12:45 PM

to share.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:45:59 · ≈ 12:45 PM

Great, let's do it! Yeah, yeah. And we're going to go out with this bit so great job on your first show. Look forward

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed3:46:07 · ≈ 12:46 PM

to the next one.

PresenterDr. Scott McCannHealth Education with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and I'mProposedself-stated3:46:08 · ≈ 12:46 PM

Have a happy summer. Yes and we'll see you next time on Healthy for Life.

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December 31st 2010 having a nice day flying to the beach I love this sport not so bad is it?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed3:46:24 · ≈ 12:46 PM

Thank you. All right, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Hi, everyone. I

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want to be a pediatrician. Yeah, I was hoping to become a chef someday.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 27Proposed3:48:39 · ≈ 12:48 PM

As long as there's somebody behind you pushing you and supporting you then you feel that you always have the strength to keep going

CommentDrProposed3:48:44 · ≈ 12:48 PM

So get involved and do your part. Invest in the future, mentor a child.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 28Proposed3:48:52 · ≈ 12:48 PM

On January 10th 2005 four inches of rain fell in an hour-and-a-half at La Conchita. Mike Bell was there when the hill above gave way.

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It was about 15 seconds from the time you heard the first noise until it was silent again.

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Identify your risk.

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We realized people in town didn't have emergency evacuation kits.

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Have an evacuation plan.

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14 people that were missing. Be aware,

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be prepared.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 30Proposed3:49:19 · ≈ 12:49 PM

Go to AwareAndPrepared.org.

CommentNational Defense Authorization ActProposed · by introduction3:49:22 · ≈ 12:49 PM

Welcome to the emergency challenge and they're off! Lloyd is at the first challenge making a successful 911 call isn't looking for the 11 button here comes Coons On January 10, 2005 four inches of rain fell in an hour and a half at La Conchita. Mike Bell was there when the hill above gave way

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Identify your risk.

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We realized that people in town didn't have emergency evacuation kits.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:33:01 · ≈ 1:33 PM

Hi. Yeah. All right, good afternoon everybody. Board of Supervisors is back in session and we will have a report from closed session by County Council.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed4:34:09 · ≈ 1:34 PM

Thank you Madam Chair. Your board had a number of items scheduled and each of the noticed items was held and there were no reportable decisions made during this closed session.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:34:22 · ≈ 1:34 PM

Thank you. All right. With that, since we continued item number five, we are on departmental item number six. Mr. Allen, would you read that into the record please?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:34:32 · ≈ 1:34 PM

Madam Chair and members of the Board, Item 6 is from General Services and Planning Development. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Elmwood Pipeline Inc Line 96 Modification Project and Ordinance Franchise C4 findings.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:34:46 · ≈ 1:34 PM

Thank you. Mr Nisbet, good afternoon.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 23Proposed4:34:48 · ≈ 1:34 PM

Good afternoon, Madam Chair, Members of the Board. Today we have before the board an ordinance to issue a pipeline franchise to Elwood Pipeline, Inc., which is a subsidiary of Veneco. And there are two representatives from Veneco here today. The franchise is for the purpose of using operating and maintaining a pipeline for the transport of crude oil. And I want to say at this point this is a historic action today With the approval of this franchise, use of this pipeline will eliminate the last oil barging operation off the coast of Santa Barbara County.

Although I am representing General Services in presenting this final step in the process, I must acknowledge staff in the Planning and Development Department who really did the heavy listing on processing this application. Glenn Russell, Director of Planning is here, Diane Black, Assistant Director, Doug Anthony, and then also two members from the Energy Division, Kevin Drude and Dean DeSette.

So if there are any technical questions as we move along they're all here to answer any technical questions. Next slide. The application for this pipeline was initiated, initially submitted by Venneco in May of 2009 and the pipeline is a new 6-inch steel pipeline for the transport of crude oil. It is approximately 8 1⁄2 miles long and it begins at Venneco's Elwood Onshore Facility running along Highway 101 to the Plains Pipeline System in Gaviota.

Although the majority of the pipeline is within county jurisdiction A small portion is in the city of Goleta, just 585 feet. And numerous portions of the route cross private parcels, Caltrans right away and also Union Pacific Railroad right away. The project was heard by the Planning Commission on August 3rd 2011. At that meeting, the commission voted to approve the project, issue all necessary permits for construction and they certified the environmental impact report for the project at that time.

And according to the energy staff, I just spoke to him yesterday. The pipeline is complete. It has been tested and it is ready to begin operation next slide. These next two slides show the route of the pipeline. And this slide, because it's eight and a half miles long, it took two slides. This is the eastern section and you can see the pipeline begins here at the Elwood Onshore Facility. This is the Bacara Resort.

This is a portion of Sam Piper Golf Course just to acclimate you. And it runs across the freeway under the freeway I should say and then westerly northwesterly along the north side of one oh one. The yellow sections represent sections where they had to drill for a variety of reasons. Maybe there was a watershed area there, or in this case under Highway 101.

And the yellow dots represent various valves that are part of the project and I just want to point out at this point There was actually a mitigation measure from the EIR which required the installation of remotely actuated block valves, and that's what some of these are to reduce the amount of time to shut down the pipeline. These valves are operated remotely from the onshore facility and there are several of these valves along its stretch. Next slide.

This slide shows the western section of the pipeline. It simply continues along the northerly side of 101, El Capitan State Park is here and then it completes the eight-and-a-half mile trek here where it ties into the I guess the name has changed. It's not the All American Pipeline anymore. And then from this point it ties into a network and the oil then makes its way down to Los Angeles.

Next slide. As pointed out in the introduction, this pipeline will eliminate marine barging off the coast of Santa Barbara. And this slide, by the way, is directly lifted from the presentation that was made to the Planning Commission in August. And it was well documented that day at the hearing all of the benefits of pipeline versus barging. They're summarized in the EIR and the findings of the project that day. So here are the benefits and the point being made that pipeline Transport by pipeline is a superior alternative to barging. Next slide, please.

So given the beneficial impacts of this project and the fact that the pipeline is complete and ready, and the ever-present risk associated with barging oil, we are recommending that this ordinance be adopted by urgency ordinance. And this means that should the board adopt the ordinance after the second reading, which is we're recommending be scheduled for next week, the 14th.

Should they do that then the ordinance would take effect immediately and Venneco could begin using the pipeline. So there's specific findings here, and these are summarized in more detail in the board letter. And it's these findings that allow us to make the recommendation today that the ordinance meets the legal requirements to be adopted as an urgency ordinance. And I just would like to read these findings for the record so they are on the record.

One, the EIR determined that transport by pipeline rather than barge is superior for biological resources. Two, the statement of overriding consideration finds that transport by pipeline is superior environmentally to operating the marine terminal necessary for barging. Three, the Coastal Act recognizes transport by pipeline as superior to barging Four, transport by pipeline reduces air emissions and five, fog represents a persistent navigational hazard for barging and And that goes to the risk of a potential spill when barging.

Finally, I would like to make a few points about the actual franchise in front of you. So the franchise is done by ordinance. Venneco then accepts the franchise and as I said it would become effective after the second reading. The franchise is for a 20-year term and Venneco will pay the county $5,630 annually for the use of County Right-of-Way. The franchise fee is set up by state public utility code. There's a very strict methodology for computing the amount of the franchise fee, and should that code be updated over the 20-year term for any reason—there's a decision made to increase fees for this type of thing—our franchise is written in such a way that our fee would be adjusted accordingly. And then also, the fee is subject to a consumer price index annually so it will be adjusted each year based on inflation.

Second point I want to make is the franchise is to, quote, use, operate and maintain a pipeline. It's not to construct or expand a pipeline. It just for the use of the pipeline. Third, $100,000 bond will be put up by Veneco to assure compliance with the terms of the franchise. And then the fourth relevant point At the end of the 20-year term, assuming there's no extensions and of course there could be extensions granted. The pipeline is removed by Venneco and in the section where this is described, the county does have discretion to direct Venneco to abandon the pipeline in place should that prove to be a superior alternative for whatever reason. And in this scenario, there's language that suggests that the franchise even would allow ownership to transfer County upon board determination that there was some public value in doing so.

So complete flexibility on the completion of the franchise, whether we require Beneco to remove it, we find that the superior alternative is abandoned in place and even the flexibility of accepting ownership. Next slide please So our recommendation is summarized here, and I want to just start with Recommendation C. There's a little explanation needed here. This recommendation finds that the EIR that was certified by the Planning Commission on August 3rd for this pipeline sufficiently covers the scope of the action today which is to issue the franchise.

So recommendation C includes a series of findings labeled as attachment A to the board letter and makes the determination that no additional environmental review is needed for the issuance of the franchise because nothing has changed since the Planning Commission certified the EIR. So with the explanation on C, it is our recommendation today that the Board conduct a public hearing, consider a first reading of an urgency ordinance to issue a pipeline franchise to Elwood Pipeline Inc., And move on to second reading of the ordinance to be held February 14th, 2012.

And with that I'd be happy to answer any questions and as I said there's planning staff here and representatives from Beneco as well.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:44:18 · ≈ 1:44 PM

Great thank you Mr. Nesbitt. Questions comments from the board at this time? No okay public speakers?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:44:28 · ≈ 1:44 PM

We have one request to speak for Linda Kropp.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:44:32 · ≈ 1:44 PM

Ms. Kropp good afternoon

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CommentLake Nessie MentoProposed · by introduction4:44:37 · ≈ 1:44 PM

Good afternoon, Madam Chair and members of the Board. It's my great pleasure to appear before you this afternoon on this momentous occasion. We didn't get to speak to you back in August when the construction of the pipeline project was approved by the Planning Commission so I just wanted to give you a little bit of background concerning the community support for this project. The Environmental Defense Center where I work represents Four local organizations Get Oil Out, Los Padres Sierra Club, Citizens Planning Association and Citizens of Goleta Valley who have been working to ensure this transition for the last 14 years ever since Beneco took over the Elwood facilities. Before that, we dealt with ARCO and Mobile.

So it did take a long time to make the transition from the barge to a pipeline but as staff has presented, the pipeline provides numerous environmental benefits and advantages and certainly eliminates the risk of an offshore oil spill which would be devastating given that the barging operations emanate from just offshore the Coldwell Point Reserve, the Devereux Slough, Snowy Plover Habitat, and Elwood Mesa.

One of the things that we often forget, though, is we tend to look very local and say that's great. You know, we're protecting the Elwood, Devereux area. We're actually protecting the California coast from L.A., Long Beach all the way up to the San Francisco Bay Area because that's where the barge goes. The barge takes crude oil processed from Elwood Thank you, Ms. Cropp.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:46:32 · ≈ 1:46 PM

Dr. Johnson's your speaker slip for this item or another item

CommentMatthew MarguliesProposed4:46:36 · ≈ 1:46 PM

Except

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:46:43 · ≈ 1:46 PM

for this item you want to speak to Madam

CommentDrProposed4:46:47 · ≈ 1:46 PM

chair, I find it highly ironic That you environmentalists would approve such project And I'm wondering What possessed the environmentalists to give the okay for this? And they say that they are the protectors of the area. I find it completely bombastic, irreverent for an environmentalist to step up here and say that they approved this project. It's distasteful in my mouth, when they fight for everything against employment of people.

They fight for everything against a worthwhile endeavor. Now this company is attempting to provide jobs for people who need jobs. And the environmentalists oppose jobs. They oppose the human condition. Let's say someone who is a farm laborer, who works for lower wages could possibly work on an oil pipeline doing something for vinegar. For possibly three times that much.

And for an environmentalist to step up here and say that they approve of this project, it's just another evil endeavor when they know they disapprove of every aspect of this project. They disapprove of every aspect of this problem of this project and now they sit here saying, oh we approve it. Something is really amiss in this environmental community. Something is really amiss.

I think you're beginning to feel the ramifications of being an environmentalist. You're confused. You're hallucinating. You don't know which way you're going, but I'm gonna tell you this economy demands this pipeline. It's not you environments for you to step up here is so false hearted. I don't even know what I can take a shower tonight.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:49:47 · ≈ 1:49 PM

Thank you Dr. Johns that's our only public speaker on this item Mr. Allen, okay so we'll bring it back to the board. Move

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:49:54 · ≈ 1:49 PM

to approve Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:49:55 · ≈ 1:49 PM

Motion to approve I have a second any discussion on the motion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries thank you very much to both Planning and Development and General Services all right

we will move on to item number seven

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:50:14 · ≈ 1:50 PM

Madam Chair, members of the board. Item seven is from planning and development. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Center of Ranch Inland Development Agreement Notice of Compliance.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:50:24 · ≈ 1:50 PM

All right let's pause here a moment and let staff get set up Good afternoon, Dr. Russell and Ms. Black. Ms. Black are you going to be making the presentation?

PresenterJan GlickProposed · by introduction4:50:45 · ≈ 1:50 PM

Yes, Madam Chair. Thank you. Madam Chair, members of the board this item before you today is consideration of a request to provide a notice of compliance with the Santa Barbara Ranch Inland Development Agreement. Specifically staff is recommending that your board Received a written request from S.B.R.H.C.. Inc. for a notice of compliance and authorize the chair of the board to execute and deliver the staff prepared notice of compliance provided to you in attachment 3 to your board agenda letter, and that you find that CEQA is satisfied for this action through CEQAs section 15162a relying on the Santa Barbara Ranch EIR at the conclusion of my presentation I'll provide the board with some revised language for recommendation C To start with just a bit of background, the Board of Supervisors approved the Santa Barbara Ranch Project in October and December of 2008.

That approval included two separate development agreements, one for the coastal portion of the development and one for the inland portion of the development. The Coastal Development Agreement was rescinded by the Board of Supervisors on November 9th 2009. The Inland Development Agreement remains in effect and it's the one we're talking about today. On November 20th 2008, the Naples Coalition Environmental Defense Center and Surfriders Foundation filed suit challenging the county's certification of the EIR and approval of the Santa Barbara Ranch project. And that lawsuit is still pending.

In May of 2010, First Bank foreclosed on a part or all of the inland project property and transferred its interests to SBRHC Inc. On February 1, 2011, your board heard a request from First Bank, from SBRHC Inc., and the original developers for Santa Barbara Ranch to acknowledge that the developer's performance under the Inland Development Agreement is extended throughout the Period of litigation and to receive and file staff's compliance report that matter was heard by your board and continued first to April 5th 2011 and then to May 17th 2011 where the matter was withdrawn.

Moving to the request before your board today, on January 3rd of this year SBRHC requested that the board approve a notice of compliance and consent to a proposed transfer agreement. The request for the transfer agreement was withdrawn first verbally on January 20th and in writing on January 23rd, 2012. We expect the request to be resubmitted with additional information about the prospective owner for consideration by your board as soon as March 20th, 2012 A notice of compliance must be delivered within 45 days of the request or in this case by February 17th Or there's a conclusive presumption that the development agreement remains in effect as represented to be modified by SVRHC Section 8.04 of the Inland Development Agreement specifies what the Notice of Compliance is to include, and those include three things that the agreement is unmodified And is in full force or if modified the date and nature of the modifications.

That there are no current uncured defaults, or the date and nature of any defaults, and any other information reasonably requested by the developer. That section also provides for the P&D director to execute the notice of compliance, and for the developer to pay for reasonable costs of processing the request for a notice of compliance. The developer asserts that the time for them to perform under the Inland Development Agreement is extended throughout the time of the Naples litigation, citing Section 10.06 of the Inland Development Agreement.

Litigation has been in place continuously since November 2008 attacking the Inland Development Agreement and the project approvals. The notice of compliance prepared by staff certifies that the developer's performance is extended until the conclusion of the Naples Coalition litigation. The notice of compliance submitted by SBRHC includes three modifications, which are shown on the slide up on the screen all pertaining to who the developer is and what rights and obligations the developer has.

Staff recommends that these modifications not to be certified by the Board of Supervisors at this time in the notice of compliance due to ongoing quiet title litigation between the original developer and SBRHC. As I mentioned before, we expect to receive a request for the Board of Supervisors' consent to a proposed transfer agreement. If that request is received in the next few days this week essentially, we would expect to bring that to the Board of Supervisors on March 20th of this year as it must be heard within 45 days of receipt of the request.

Staff recommends that the board take the three actions provided in the Board Agenda Letter and summarized on the screen with a slight change to Recommendation C that I'll hand out. Does the clerk have those? And I'm happy to answer any questions about the slightly revised wording of recommendations, see if the board would like. That does conclude my presentation and I'd like to turn the presentation over to Mr. Gazzone to address a letter received yesterday from Mr. Adair, the attorney for the original developer Matt Osgood.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:57:04 · ≈ 1:57 PM

Thank you Ms. Black. Mr. Gazzone?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 33Proposed4:57:06 · ≈ 1:57 PM

Madam Chair, Supervisors. The online posting includes a letter received that the county received yesterday from Mr. Hedare who is one of the attorneys representing the original developers in their separate quiet title litigation. There's a live case in County Santa Barbara Superior Court before Judge Anderley. That letter addresses paragraph In part addresses paragraph 3B of the draft replacement notice of compliance, that's attachment three to your board package.

Attachment, excuse me, paragraph 3b recites that when the county contacted the original developers concerning consent to the counties certifying SBRHC as the developer having all rights Our office received the answer that the clients could not at that time consent to that certification. Mr. Adair's letter received yesterday notes that he did not remember that statement but does not include an express consent to the board certifying SBRHC as a developer holding all development rights, therefore our recommendation is included in the board agenda letter and that is Do not act on that part of SBRHC's request, but instead expressly note as is done in the draft notice of compliance. That the quiet title reasonably prevents, quiet title action reasonably prevents the county from acting on that piece of the request at this time.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:58:40 · ≈ 1:58 PM

All right, thank you. Any questions or comments by the board at this time? All right, why don't we go to the public then?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:58:52 · ≈ 1:58 PM

We have two requests to speak. Deborah Rosenthal to be followed by Nathan Alley.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:58:57 · ≈ 1:58 PM

Ms. Rosenthal?

PresenterDeborah RosenthalSBRHCProposedself-stated4:59:04 · ≈ 1:59 PM

My name is Deborah Rosenthal. I'm here representing SBRHC, Inc., which is the owner of the property and we have worked with staff on this request and although we continue to think that it is an appropriate request To make of the county, we understand that if we need to resolve this in court, unfortunately, we will be proceeding with a quiet title litigation. And I hope we will have a resolution there, and we'll be able to come back to you with a big smile that the issues revolving around both the Inland Development Agreement and the project have been resolved. So thank you. If you have any questions, we are happy to answer them.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call4:59:57 · ≈ 1:59 PM

Thank you. Thank you for being here. Any questions? All right. Mr. Alley.

PresenterNathan AlleySurfladder Foundation todayProposedself-stated5:00:05 · ≈ 2:00 PM

Good afternoon, Madam Chair and Supervisors. My name is Nathan Alley. I'm an attorney for the Environmental Defense Center also representing the Surfladder Foundation today. I just want to cover a few things after welcoming us all to 2012 and another year of Naples. It's been almost a year since we've been here so good to see everybody back in the room. I just want to point out a couple things and then address staff's recommendations.

The first thing I want to point out is that the Inland Development Agreement is of course one of the subjects of our litigation. We have argued since 2008 that it's predicated upon an invalid agreement and therefore does not hold any water, so we would just reiterate that claim today. Similarly, we would disagree with county staff that there have been no changed circumstances or new evidence that has arised to further invalidate the development agreement. In fact, as we've pointed out for the last two years almost there have been a number of changed circumstances since 2008 which further invalidate the inland development agreement and so we'd ask for you to take action in the future to rescind that like you did the coastal development agreement.

I'd also point out, again slightly contrary to staff's recommendation that those same changed circumstances, that same new evidence also calls into question the satisfactory nature of your CEQA documents. Certainly our litigation also covers the CEQAs documents and we feel as though further process could play out in order to satisfy the county's obligations under state law.

Finally, I'll just close by agreeing with staff in the final recommendation and that is there are certain matters that are out there in the ether Currently the subject of litigation that the county is not party to and probably not appropriate for your board to address today. So in terms of recommendation, I think it's three in the staff report we would urge you to follow staff's recommendation. Thank you very much and we look forward to seeing you again soon.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:01:58 · ≈ 2:01 PM

Thank you. Thank you for being here. And that was the last public speaker. Okay so we will bring it back to the board any other questions or comments at this time? Okay, well seeing none as this is in my district I will go ahead and move staff's recommendation. Receive the written request that we execute the prepared notice of compliance and attachment three and find that CEQA was satisfied including the revised language that was passed out today and it has been available.

I have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries, thank you very much. Alright we're moving right along here Yeah alright well the board will take 10 to 15 minute break and we'll see if we can bring The people the staff that we need for item number eight here Yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed5:03:34 · ≈ 2:03 PM

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:14:12 · ≈ 2:14 PM

Right, good afternoon everybody. We're back in session taking up item number eight the Board of Supervisors Ad Hoc Subcommittee on Public Safety Aviation Final Report and Recommendations. And we'll go ahead and I'm going to turn it over to Supervisor Wolf and Supervisor Lavagnino who made up the subcommittee if you want to make some comments first before we Go from there.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.685:14:45 · ≈ 2:14 PM

I would love to go first, thank you. First off, I just want to say that it was a real pleasure. I knew when they put Supervisor Wolf and I together they were looking for fireworks but there were none so we actually... Yeah that could be! I better back up off of that one. Supervisor Wolf and I, although you know, I don't think either one of us would claim to be an aviation expert by any stretch of the imagination.

We did commit ourselves to trying to determine the most efficient way for us use our assets that we currently have and looking to see if we have the right mix of assets in our public safety aviation unit. I do want to thank not only Supervisor Wolf, but also our staff. Dennis Bzanich was very instrumental and did a lot of the heavy lifting to get this thing done as well as our CEO Chandra Waller who was the driving force behind this.

I also wanted to thank Sheriff Bill Brown and Chief Michael Dyer. Without those two really buying into what we were looking to do none of this would have come to fruition. Really, our main goal in all of this was just to improve the efficiency in our aviation unit and to get both sides to realize that we did have just one mission. And that is to protect the people and property of Santa Barbara County.

I was really excited about the report that you're going to see here in a minute. And I'm just hopeful that it may not be perfect, but I think gives us a starting and jumping off point of where we can move forward down the road. And I look to hear with bated... How do you say that? With open ears your comments.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:16:42 · ≈ 2:16 PM

Thank you Supervisor Wilk.

CommentFinal ReportProposed5:16:45 · ≈ 2:16 PM

Thank you, Chair and Mr. Lavagnino. I also want to thank Supervisor Gray for appointing me to this committee with Mr. Lavagnino. It was exactly seven months ago today that you made that appointment. I think some of us thought we might be done sooner but as we It delved into this whole project. We knew it was going to take longer. Yesterday, I reviewed the tape of the board discussion that led to the formation of this committee and in listening to the remarks of my colleagues, I can honestly say that I believe that the proposal before you today and that you will hear more about in a few minutes truly reflects the goals that I heard from all of you.

I heard Supervisor Farr state that she wanted to build an understanding of how all the helicopters in the Sheriff's Program fit in with the overall county aviation program and asked about overall costs. Supervisor Carbajal mentioned what he referred to as the ongoing saga we've never been able to fix and the dual aviation programs, and asked that a committee look at other regions and find out how our program could be right-sized while maintaining the highest standard of public safety and look for redundancies. And while you didn't say look for a win-win I'm sure you would have said that. That was implied.

And Supervisor Gray wanted a better understanding of the number and extent of aviation assets. I do believe that the report before you addresses all of your individual and collective concerns. Supervisor Labagnino and I met and had lengthy discussions with neighboring counties, and learned about their challenges and accomplishments. We met with CAL FIRE representatives. We spent time with our public health department, medical EMS directors and learned of their needs.

We met with County Council to understand the legalities over matters such as the Sheriff's Budgeting Authority. On two occasions, we met with Sheriff Brown and Chief Dyer individually and then together. After we completed our fact-finding, we asked that they work on an MOU that would provide a unified aviation program within the Sheriff's Department under a unified command that would utilize professional pilots as the Fire Department has done for years and that be based upon mutually agreed MOUs.

Above all, we wanted to bring these two model programs together to provide one outstanding aviation unit for the residents of Santa Barbara County without compromising public safety. And I believe the MOU that's before you today accomplishes all those goals. I want to thank all of the individuals who've given their time to this effort, namely Chief Dyer and Sheriff Brown and their assistants under Sheriff Anderson and Deputy Chief Hahn. And finally a heartfelt thanks to CEO Waller and Assistant Dennis Bozonich who has devoted numerous hours to this effort.

Supervisor,

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.685:20:02 · ≈ 2:20 PM

I think it's under Sheriff Peterson.

CommentFinal ReportProposed5:20:04 · ≈ 2:20 PM

What did I say? Oh, God. You'll never forgive me. See that's how well we work together. Yeah, we are. So anyway, we went through a lot of information. A lot of pages of documents. We listened to lots of people. I don't even want to say intense discussions. We had some good discussion and really good feedback and interaction that led us to some of the recommendations that we made.

So pleased to have worked with Supervisor Labagnino on this project, and I thank all of you for giving us this opportunity. And now I think Mr. Bozonich is going to go through the slide presentation.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:21:03 · ≈ 2:21 PM

Thank you, Supervisor Wolf. And I think certainly speaking for the rest of the board we really appreciate all the time and effort that you and Supervisor Levin have put into this over the past number of months because we know that it was a difficult issue to get into but you persevered and here you are with a report so... Thank you for that.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed5:21:40 · ≈ 2:21 PM

They really spent an enormous amount of time and effort understanding, hearing reports, reading reports, asking questions, really seeking to find solutions to bring back to the entire board for your consideration. A little bit that I wanted to say about the win-win. In my mind, actually this one is a win-win-win-win and what I mean by that, I think it's a win for the Sheriff's Aviation Operations, the Fire Aviation Operations. I think it's a win for the county as a whole because we're going to have an aviation group that is much superior to what the individuals were. And then lastly, I think it's absolutely a win for our taxpayers and our residents in terms of both enhanced public safety and cost savings. So I certainly think that you will be very pleased with what your subcommittee has done.

And I will ask Dennis to go through on behalf of the subcommittee what their findings were. So Dennis please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed5:22:49 · ≈ 2:22 PM

Great, thank you very much and thanks to everybody too. So I just wanted to start off with a little bit of the background about public safety aviation and part of this is really the beginning parts of the work that the subcommittee did. Really looking at the fact that public safety aviation is a huge asset, a huge tool that really enhances the ability to deliver Public safety, both fire as well as law enforcement missions in time critical natures because of the nature especially here in Santa Barbara County of the large area that we have to cover. The large distances between our population centers often aviation units provide a key link between those various population centers and allow people to experience assistance much more quickly than they would be if we had to use solely ground transportation.

The other thing is that we have to recognize is that public safety and all aviation programs are really, really expensive. There is no cheap way to run these assets that we have the helicopters, the airplanes. They are valuable tools but they are expensive and so think about how to use them effectively cost-effectively was a key consideration for the subcommittee And then making sure that we identified some of the prioritization around the needs and as well as the resources for these aviation programs. So, that provided a context or a scope a bit for the Aviation Subcommittee as they did their work.

One of the first activities that the subcommittee dealt with was a fact-finding mission to look at the history and the assets that we have available. And I know that's been an interest to your board for many, many years is how did we get to where we are? And then what do we actually have in our hands? So this is a brief timeline. During the 90s, the very first two helicopters were given to the fire department by the U.S. Forest Service through a federal program that took excess Department of Defense properties and dispersed those to firefighting agencies around the country.

So back in the 90s, we got our first two and we began some of those initial public safety flight operations after setting up some operational guidelines and manuals. During the 2000s, the early 2000s we acquired a plane and two more helicopters. Both of these were received by the Sheriff's Department and there also began a joint operation at that time between sheriff and fire back in the early part of this last decade.

And then in 2010s now, here we are at the beginning of 2012. You're going to get a report next item 9 on your agenda today is the completion of Copter 3 which is really going to be a significant asset going forward for this joint aviation program because it really will be the one aircraft that is going to be multi-mission capable right out of the hangar. That you'll be able to run a law mission or a fire mission with this one craft and so it really is going to become symbolic of the joint operations of the personnel, and at the same time these the board subcommittee was established as well. So that kind of brings us up to date with the history of the aviation One of the significant questions is what are the assets and what do we have in our stable, in our hangars at San Ynez Airport?

And this slide provides you a bit of a list of what those assets are. You'll see two OH-58A plus copters. These were basically light duty helicopters that are fairly inexpensive to operate They're very good for surveillance, basic search and rescue missions. As you can see they're a fairly new aircraft. They were built in the late 60s early 70s and they have a fairly low number of flight hours especially Copter 2.

You'll notice in the far right hand column, the fact that it says their sales value is zero. One of the key components to recognize for the board and for the public is that we don't own these aircraft. They have been given to us by the federal government in the case of the fire The ones you'll see listed there in the third column from the right, listed as FEPP. That's the Federal Excess Personal Property Program and that is directly connected with the Department of Forestry and the federal government.

The 1033 acquisition program helicopters that you see for law enforcement are similar, Department of Defense excess property. Many of these were flown even during the Vietnam War and they were brought into, they were considered excess property by Department of Defense and then were given out to law enforcement agencies around the country. So they have no value if we stop using them, we give them back, we hand them back the keys in essence for those aircraft.

This is a bit of a listing about what each of the helicopters and the airplane asset as well, what they are capable of doing. You'll notice there is a rich mix of mission capabilities already existing in the aircraft that we have possession of at this time. Everything from being able to do water drops to rescues to medical evacuations to reconnaissance and search flights And each one of these aircraft provides a unique platform for conducting a variety of these missions.

One of the other aspects that the subcommittee wanted to take a look at was how much were these assets used, and what did we use them for? And this table lists out for Sheriff and Fire Department what some of the basic uses are. Public safety missions, training and maintenance which is a key component for any aviation program both training your personnel as well as maintenance flights to check that the equipment is operating adequately.

Mutual aid to other jurisdictions, so you can see how those hours are dispersed. One of the things you'll see in this is you see the real significant impact of our fire seasons especially in 2007, 2008, 2009 with some of the extra hours that you see during those particular years with the extraordinary fire seasons we had for two years there. Just to give you a sense about both, not only the equipment resources but also the personnel that we have as well as the budget that we have attached to these programs.

In this you'll notice just to kind of give it a longer look without a lot of extra data. You'll notice that each of these columns has a year missing in between so just to kind of show the data there wasn't any significant changes in those years not reflected But I thought this was representative of how things have developed over time. In terms of the aircraft, it's continued to develop. The number of staffing has been relatively stable throughout that time and you can see the budgets As well, in 2007-2008 you'll notice a pretty significant increase in the costs of operating the two aviation programs together.

Again that has a lot to do with flying missions during the Zaka fire, the very long Zaka fire that you'll recall. As well as some really extraordinary equipment expenses we had during that same period of time. We had the rotors on the aircraft needed to be replaced and those are actually quite expensive, so that's why you see a fairly significant increase in the 2007-2008 fiscal year So here's a little bit about the process the subcommittee went through, really looking at the project scope and purpose and tasks. We laid those out at the very beginning to make sure that we started it at the adequate spot.

We accessed a huge amount of existing written documentation both from the fire department as well as from the sheriff's department. I really want to thank the staff from both of those departments for being so cooperative and so forthcoming in providing those documents to this subcommittee. Any one of the subcommittee now could adequately probably operate one of the winches on the aircraft and the night vision goggles that also are utilized. So we received the full manual that any of the folks on those aircraft would receive, Those were very detailed and important for us understanding the capabilities of the aircraft. We conducted a series of fact-finding interviews, and I'm just going to jump a slide ahead just to show you a list of the experts that we contacted.

As was mentioned by the subcommittee members, you'll notice that both the Sheriff as well as Fire Chief Mike Dyer were invited. Rob Lewin and John Winder from CAL FIRE were here Captain Dave Kenny, who actually heads the Ventura Joint Aviation Unit in Ventura County. They have the model that we're recommending to this board already in existence in Ventura County so we had the Sheriff's captain who is in charge of that unit come and join spend a really enlightening couple hours with us. We also talked with Chief Bob Roper from the Fire Department in Ventura County And we had a number of folks from our medical services, from our EMS, Emergency Medical Services Division and Dr. Wada join us to really talk about how our aviation assets engage with Caltrans as well as with AMR, our main transport for medical emergencies.

And then we also talked with Kern County's both fire and sheriff departments on a conference call. They had endeavored to do a similar study that we did this year, they had done this last year and they at the conclusion of their analysis decided to keep the Kern County program separate for their own reasons at this time but that was a really important part of the conversation with the subcommittee. So I just wanted to point out the really extensive list of folks that we interviewed.

We did talk with Sheriff and Fire Chief on a couple of occasions.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:33:40 · ≈ 2:33 PM

Excuse me, Mr. Pisanich. Mr.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:33:41 · ≈ 2:33 PM

Pisanich, what were the main reasons why Kern County decided to keep their aviation program separate? I know you kind of glossed over that. And I must say that everybody did a superb job on this report. It's really great. There are a number of observations and questions that I have, and for example when you say that it's important to understand why. So since you didn't provide the why, I'm asking for the why.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed5:34:10 · ≈ 2:34 PM

Chair Farr, Supervisor Carbajal. Kern County made the decisions primarily because they were going through a number of transitions in their leadership roles at the time that was one of the major reasons they also were looking at it internally there was not a board subcommittee overseeing that but they were asked as part of their budget process to examine the possibilities And so there was a little, I would say less organizational strategic perspective added to their discussions. They did kind of similar process to what we had done here in terms of the fact finding but it happened very much at the level of the fire chief as well as the sheriff within the county and not for example as a board subcommittee and that was one of the major reasons there was a real difference in terms of the organizational concern or need to compel them to move forward with a change at this time.

There are also other unique characteristics of Kern County, just its location in the middle of the Central Valley, it's really major traffic, couple of major traffic corridors and really one population center, little bit different than our geographic arrangement here as well that had an impact on that as well so...

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:35:29 · ≈ 2:35 PM

And Supervisor Wolf, did you want to add to that?

CommentFinal ReportProposed5:35:32 · ≈ 2:35 PM

If I could add a little bit. I got my notes about our discussion with Kern County and what Mr. Bozonich said This is totally accurate if I could just add something though. You mentioned the size of Kern County when we spoke to FIRE. Their assets, they had two medium bells and one fixed wing. They also had two full-time pilots, two mechanics During the summer season, they hired additional pilots.

They had a supervisor. The Sheriff's Department has seven aircraft, two fixed-wing civilian pilots, sworn pilots, sergeants. They have three mechanics. It was much larger... Their two separate departments were much larger than our two separate departments. What was interesting in talking to them though While they kept their departments separate, they did have some overlap. And one of the things that they said were that they tried to combine their unit They tried to combine their units. So on certain days they had the units that would, like you might have Sheriff Monday, Wednesday, Friday that might also go out on fire calls and just the opposite. So they did cover each other. They had cross-trained with each other even though their aviation departments were separate there was some overlap occurring.

Okay, thank

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed5:37:08 · ≈ 2:37 PM

you. Thank you. So just to conclude the overall process that the subcommittee went through following those discussions with the sheriff and fire chief at the conclusion of all the fact-finding we began to write a report with findings and recommendations summarizing the work of the subcommittee It seemed also important to begin to ask the sheriff and the fire department to begin to work out an operational agreement that would be supportive of the findings and recommendations in the subcommittee's report, and to perhaps bring that forward as a consideration for your board to recognize the hard work that they had done in looking at those recommendations. And then finally beginning to look at what some of those next steps might be for both your board as well as The aviation programs here in the county.

So a list of the findings are pretty simple, they really that the availability of aviation assets are an indispensable part of modern firefighting as well as modern law enforcement. That joint firefighting and law enforcement aviation programs need to operate within an operational agreement. They need to operate with one leadership team as well And that finding number three is that the use of professional pilots in a mission-specific specialist crew becomes a really valuable way to create cross mission dimension to each aircraft. And this will become really important for your board to take into consideration. If you accept the subcommittee's recommendations, you're going to end up with two aircraft... I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed5:38:49 · ≈ 2:38 PM

have a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed5:38:49 · ≈ 2:38 PM

quick question.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:38:51 · ≈ 2:38 PM

Excuse.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:38:52 · ≈ 2:38 PM

I'm sorry, Supervisor Gray. This is just... What is the difference in a professional pilot and a non-professional pilot? Because when you get your ticket you pretty much better know how to fly a plane.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed5:39:05 · ≈ 2:39 PM

Chair Farr, Supervisor Gray. What the subcommittee identified as professional pilots are those folks who are certified pilots first and they don't which means they've got enough flight hours, they're certified to fly certain missions. That's to distinguish them with the pilots that might be sworn deputies first and became pilot second And so in our law enforcement aviation program, in the sheriff's department for example. The pilots that we had were sheriff's deputies as well as pilots and so what we found in the fire department during our fact finding was that we had pilots that were pilots first and then are flying as professional pilots The certification and carding requirements that Supervisor Gray as you pointed out, those are still in absolute play here for the staffing.

And in fact as you get to the operational agreement we very much specify both the fire department and the sheriff's department specify what's required in terms of the basic certifications and hours flight time for each flight crew so it's very specifically laid out in that operational agreement for your board to review

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:40:20 · ≈ 2:40 PM

Supervisor Carball.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:40:21 · ≈ 2:40 PM

Thank you. Since you're concluding, Mr. Buzanich, I'll throw out a few just observations and questions I have. First of all, I want to reiterate that I think the committee and everybody did a really good job having served once upon a time in my lifetime under a military organization. I do appreciate the recommendations. I think they're all very good and very worthwhile guiding us towards an organizational structure that makes sense.

I guess in appreciation of the product debts before us, the one thing that I was hoping I could glean from this report which isn't in here and I'm hoping I can get an answer to is we talk about two things. We're going to save close to $300,000 and this is an enhanced service but there's no analysis that shows me the baseline and why we're going to have an enhanced service Quantitative was missing from this report. So I just, you know, it's just something that couldn't get my hands around.

And it might have been considered and it might be somewhere, it just wasn't included. So if I could finish. Okay. I want to be able to tell my constituents not only are we saving $300,000 but this MOU and this operational plan that's going to be put in place that we don't have already but yet we're predicating and saying it's going to be an enhanced service I want to be able to tell my constituents, right now when you're in a crash, when you're in an accident and you need aviation to come to your aid. This is what you have now.

And based on this new structure that we are going through this is what you will have one of the transition and two as the final product. Time wise response. We're talking about cross-training. How long will it take us to cross-train everybody to be at an optimum level? Professional pilots doesn't mean it's going to happen today, we all know that but the report doesn't include that we have existing pilots that are not professional pilots but we're not gonna get rid of them.

But we're not honest and we're not saying it's going to take us five years, eight years until we have certain retirements. All I'm saying is that I think this has been a good work product as Supervisor Lavinino said. I think it's a great start but I'm hoping to get that information at some point. What is the baseline? What is the transition period? What are we losing as we're gaining because we're gaining a lot I think but it's also important for the public As I vote for this to be able to tell my constituents, this is what you're getting.

We're saving $300,000 but these are all the gains, these are the losses and the gains supersede the losses and I didn't see that in the report.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:43:17 · ≈ 2:43 PM

Madam

CommentFinal ReportProposed5:43:17 · ≈ 2:43 PM

Chair, if I could. Mr. Bozonich, I'm sure we'll finish this presentation because those issues that you raised were of paramount importance to us and I believe that we have addressed those in the report and I'm sure you'll cover them and hopefully satisfy Supervisor Carbajal because they were important matters to us

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed5:43:46 · ≈ 2:43 PM

Okay, just to finish up the presentation and I appreciate that Supervisor Carmel and thank you. And we will make sure to address those for you. Just to wrap up the last couple of findings one that we recognize, the subcommittee recognized, I should say not we, the subcommittee recognized that really a single chain of command becomes A highly effective aviation program really flows from that, and that level of cooperation that is going to increase the quality and enhance the level of service that we would all be concerned about as members of the public and members of this community is really solidified under a single chain of command. And the last finding which was that medical evacuations and emergency medical transport There continues to be a little bit of ambiguity about who has what role in those medical evacuations and medical transports between our public safety, particularly our fire folks who are often doing the rescue from let's say a car accident is a great example.

And then the air ambulance service which is CALSTAR or Contract Air Ambulance Service What's their role? And so we want to make, suggest that later on there be a little bit of additional fine-tuning done on that. Those findings led to some recommendations just to wrap up that the subcommittee recommended that we form a joint fire and law aviation program and that we unify the command of that program within the Sheriff's Department.

That we create an operational agreement that includes a clear delineation of the aircraft, the personnel available, operational procedures, financial policies and I think really significantly the leadership expectations to begin to move toward a unified organizational structure under one leader. That we use professional pilots, as I described earlier to Supervisor Gray and the rest of your board about what a professional pilot is so that we can conduct those public safety operations in a professional and effective manner.

And that we do some more work to clarify those responsibilities around medical evacuation and medical emergency transport. If I may, just to wrap up and to specifically speak to one of the points that Supervisor Carbajal asked about specifically. Where is it in the report that we qualitatively, quantitatively show the enhanced quality? And what I would suggest that the board including Supervisor Carbajl may want to look at is attachment B which is a fairly comprehensive schematic of the personnel and hours of coverage that this particular program is addressing. And for the members of the public, this same document is available online for your review.

B as in boy or B as in Bosanich. Sorry about that. So what you'll notice in looking at this report, and unfortunately I don't have a copy to put up on the screen. But this document... Actually, I do. So this is a slightly different look. What you'll see in the column marked Recommended, which is the far right-hand column really lays out what the new program would involve in terms of the number of aviation assets utilizing Copters 1 and 3 and 4 that are currently part of the Sheriff's Department Keeping on reserve a helicopter 308, which is in the fire department's hangar now as well as Copter 2 from the Sheriff's Department. And that we consider returning Helicopter 309 to the federal government.

What this will provide you is two multi-mission capable helicopter flight crews seven days a week eight hours a day But with staggering schedules, we could have at least one of those copters available. Hours let's say 1 and 2 of each day would be available. Multi-mission again fire starts they could go accident happens a rescue needs to occur they could go they would be able to do that.

The real service enhancement is during the day when there are both helicopters available, and I just want you to imagine a scenario if you would with me. Where there is underway a surveillance of a drug operation in the backcountry. While our special force, our sheriff's deputies are moving into let's say raid a marijuana growing operation in the backcountry and that surveillance is absolutely critical to the safety of those officers and at the same time There's a call for a pursuit of a bank robbery suspect down the 101 from Santa Maria going southbound on the 101.

In the current operation, the Sheriff's Department would have to make a choice about whether to pursue that vehicle down the 101 that has just robbed the bank and leave the surveillance operation He'd have to make that choice. In the operation going forward, both missions would be able to occur simultaneously.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:50:00 · ≈ 2:50 PM

Supervisor Carball?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:50:02 · ≈ 2:50 PM

Thank you. Actually there is one... It says here that we're gonna have two professional pilots

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed5:50:14 · ≈ 2:50 PM

Chair Supervisor Carbajal, there are two professional pilots but you'll notice down below we're going to retain the two deputy sheriffs that are pilots in order to provide full coverage. So we're utilizing the existing personnel within the current schedule that you see at the very bottom of the page.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:50:33 · ≈ 2:50 PM

So we would have both capabilities? Both capabilities. So, we would be able to respond to the surveillance happening but then there's a big fire in the back country in my district And at the same time, I'm going to have an aviation crew that's going to be able to come drop some water on it. At the same time. Chair Farr, Supervisor Carball? Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed5:50:54 · ≈ 2:50 PM

Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed5:50:55 · ≈ 2:50 PM

That's very important. Supervisor Carball and the rest of the board... So we're basically going to continue to have pretty much the same structure Each chair, supervisor, each flight crew is going to be multi-mission capable which is different than the existing structure.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:51:17 · ≈ 2:51 PM

Then how would we handle the following unless both qualifications would be here? If you go to attachment C, number three, qualifications of pilots Am I correct in understanding on page 4, C1? It is expected that any crew flying on a lower priority mission will divert to a higher priority mission as needed. Does that assume that all pilots on duty would have the same qualifications to be able to run all missions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed5:51:57 · ≈ 2:51 PM

Chair for our Supervisor Carball, it's a very good question. So between the pilot and the flight crew you have the multi-mission capability?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:52:07 · ≈ 2:52 PM

You're telling me that you don't need a higher rating of pilot hours of experience to run certain missions. A lower rated pilot can run a higher mission with the same level of safety and confidence

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed5:52:27 · ≈ 2:52 PM

Chair Supervisor Carbonell, yes that's what I'm saying. You don't need to have but higher level of certification or flight hours to do that. Let me say parenthetically

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:52:37 · ≈ 2:52 PM

though... But the standard of the industry is the higher hours isn't it?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed5:52:45 · ≈ 2:52 PM

Chair and Supervisor, standard when it comes to that we can set our own standards in terms of the amount of hours that are there. There's no national standard for flying a certain number of hours on a certain number of missions but I think Sheriff probably could address this. Seems like he wants to, so

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:53:05 · ≈ 2:53 PM

thank you. I'm glad the sheriff stepped up. Mr. Buzanich what I'm not getting and I'm getting a little frustrated is that there are standards by which certain missions are flown and the type of qualifications that pilots need. And you're telling me there's none when there are some? And that's what I'm trying to get from you. Now whether we choose to abide by the higher standard and protect our citizens at the highest level is one thing. Whether we choose to ignore that is another thing.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed5:53:31 · ≈ 2:53 PM

I think I'm going to be able to answer your question. Madam Chair and Supervisor Carbajal, with regard to the professional pilots this is an issue that we had considerable discussion about and previously had differences of agreement about but what we have come to agreement on the fire department in the sheriff's office Is reaching a baseline level of 3,000 hours as the minimum requirements for certain types of rescues. The fire department is currently doing certain types of missions water drop missions and hoist rescues which would be a 3000 hour minimum qualification.

The two deputy pilots who will be grandfathered into this program are currently 75 to 80 hours away from that 3,000 hour threshold. And by the time we implement this program which the target date is July 1st they will have exceeded that 3000 hours so all of the pilots will have met the minimum qualifications to fly any of those missions that you're concerned about.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:54:35 · ≈ 2:54 PM

Thank you for giving me a real answer

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:54:39 · ≈ 2:54 PM

Madam Chair,

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.685:54:41 · ≈ 2:54 PM

I just want to say that Mr. Buzanich has taken on a lot with this. I appreciate everything he's done with this and you know what? I've got to be honest. You're frustrated, I'm getting frustrated the fact that, and I don't even want to turn into this but unfortunately, I mean I'm getting frustrated You were the one that told us that this thing's been a saga forever.

And under previous watches, this thing's ballooned out of control and basically floundered. And so I think you'd be at least wise enough to sit back and listen what the presentation is. Let's hear from the experts and then let's get our questions answered.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:55:26 · ≈ 2:55 PM

Thank you Supervisor Lavagnino. Why don't we go ahead and it looks like our recommendations are in two parts, the first is accepting the subcommittee's final report which Mr. Bozanich has been talking about and then the second is to receive the report from you, Sheriff Brown and the Fire Chief about the operational agreement. So perhaps we could go ahead and finish with the subcommittee's report and then we'll have you and the fire chief come up to talk about the other if that's all right?

I have a couple of additional questions about the subcommittee reports so maybe we could go through those. I'm sorry, Supervisor Wolk.

CommentFinal ReportProposed5:56:03 · ≈ 2:56 PM

Thank you. Before we move on, I just wanted to make a couple of comments and that is that the subcommittee did recognize the very distinct missions of both the Sheriff and the Fire. As was stated by Mr. Bozonich, we did use the Ventura model but we tweaked it. When we spoke to both the Chief and the Sheriff We wanted to ensure some of the issues that were brought out by Ventura Fire as far as availability of their resources, working together budget issues. So we talked to these guys.

And what they came up with is what we're about to see. And I think this is a shining moment in our county, to see our public safety folks coming together and putting together a plan that is being presented if you want to change it, you know, we can have that discussion. But it's I think it's a pretty momentous time that we should really embrace and yet always look at and see if we can improve it. But again, I just I thank the two departments for really stepping up to the plate. And I think we're going to have a top notch. I know we're gonna have a top notch aviation program.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:57:32 · ≈ 2:57 PM

Thank you Supervisor Wolf. Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:57:34 · ≈ 2:57 PM

Fray? My question is, I couldn't figure out from the report what's going to happen with the Cessna, with the fixed wing. It looks like Like, and I understand that there's not a huge use in a way for the fixed wing because we have the aviation volunteers. But I don't know where it works with that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed5:57:53 · ≈ 2:57 PM

Perhaps that's a good question for the sheriff, I think, because we

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:57:57 · ≈ 2:57 PM

really

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed5:57:57 · ≈ 2:57 PM

look at that in the helicopter

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:57:59 · ≈ 2:57 PM

program. OK, I just couldn't see where it was going. Okay, thanks.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:58:04 · ≈ 2:58 PM

Actually, that was a question that I had to Supervisor Gray, In the chart that we have about the aviation assets, it talks about the copters but it doesn't talk about the Cessna under the Sheriff's Department. So perhaps you can address that. I also wondered in the recommended which one of the copters 1, 2, 3 or 4 is the one that is the next agenda item?

PresenterAndy CaldwellCoLabProposedself-stated5:58:35 · ≈ 2:58 PM

Copter

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:58:35 · ≈ 2:58 PM

3. It's copter three, okay and so then why did you choose copter two and the fire department copter 308 in reserve and choose 309 to return?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed5:58:57 · ≈ 2:58 PM

Madam Chair members of the board the idea on this program would be that at any given time There would be two air crews and three aircraft that would be available for immediate response. One of those aircraft would be the light OH-58 helicopter, the other two would be medium lift helicopters and the idea is to retain one of each category of aircraft, one light and one medium in reserve. And that would be Copter 2 and Copter 308.

Those would be kept in a ready-reserve status so that when one of the other helicopters goes down for maintenance those helicopters would be available to slide in and we'd always have that complement available.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call5:59:45 · ≈ 2:59 PM

Okay, and one of the recommendations talks about instituting a plan for helicopter replacement. So is the idea then that those are in reserve would be kind of the top of the list to be replaced? Or is it I mean how would that work?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:00:04 · ≈ 3:00 PM

Well, the idea of a replacement program is something that I don't know that any of us want to necessarily really seriously look at in this day and age with the financial crisis that we're in. It's going to be a very expensive proposition and something that we'd have to look at down the road. The upside to all of this is that Copter 3 when it arrives will be a completely refurbished helicopter that'll have Probably 3,000 hours of flight time on it before we would have to have any kind of major overhaul.

The copter four that we have the twin engine medium lift helicopter is also a newer from the standpoint of its undergoing an extensive refurbishment and will have two helicopters that will be good for many years service without significant concerns about replacing them However, the bottom line is all of these aircraft are Vietnam era aircraft that have been refurbished again and again. And at some point, we are going to have to look if we want to retain an aviation program at purchasing helicopters because the availability is from the federal government is not what it used to be. It's very difficult to get these aircraft anymore and I suspect that we will have to look at doing something down the road where we can put some funding away in a sinking fund perhaps and have some monies available for purchase of Rotary wing aircraft when the timing is right.

But it's a very, very challenging and expensive proposition.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:01:44 · ≈ 3:01 PM

Okay thank you. I also had a question about, couple questions about the funding. You know when we started out with this I guess my premise was different than what the subcommittee went with because I personally wasn't unhappy with either the sheriff or the fire department's Operations and I thought that the basis was, was that we needed to save money. We need to save a lot of money and was there a way that we could combine these in a way That we could not compromise either mission, but that we could save a lot of money. And I guess I had stuck in my head like a million bucks.

So maybe I was way out to lunch on that, but that's kind of where I started from. And so now we have a plan where the subcommittee and all of you really looked at it and really tried to optimize the operations. But when it comes to the actual dollar savings, we're closer to the quarter-of-a-million dollar mark. So and then in looking at the breakdown, the service and supplies is the same.

The change, the reduction comes in the salaries and benefits but it's not clear from which department or both how that gets minused out. And looking down at the staffing for it, it's not clear to me either. So where is the $270,000 coming in the savings for the salaries and benefits?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:03:13 · ≈ 3:03 PM

Well, the $270,000 comes from just combining the units and achieving an economy of scale in certain areas. And I'd have to defer to give you the exact spots where it's changed but I made some notes when Supervisor Carbajal had some questions and if I can address some of those I think it would address some of your concerns and issues as well. The question was raised what is the baseline? What do we have now? What is the transition period? What are we losing and what are we gaining?

And I think I can try to sum it up this way. Right now, we have two services, two aviation programs which frankly are really not adequately funded. They have both been cut significantly over the last several years and neither of them as a standalone is in my estimation really funded to the degree that it should be. I believe that by combining these units and making this economy of scale, making this unit a multi-mission unit that we can spread the dollars that we have, the existing dollars. And although it may not seem as though we are achieving a huge savings with the $270,000 this year, the reality is you saw some years we were over $3 million in terms of what we actually spent in the unit. So I think there is some cost savings What we are losing is some degree of individual identity between the two organizations, the Sheriff's Office and the Fire Department Aviation Programs.

But what we are gaining are 2 crews and 3 aircraft that will always be available under this schedule 7 days a week for a multi-mission response, and the consolidated unit will have a single chain of command. And there's no question that there have been some issues in the past that have happened, and they've happened frankly because of a degree of rivalry, Communication that wasn't what it should have been. And I really believe that what we're gaining by consolidating this unit, putting it under a single chain of command is the ability to hold everybody accountable that's involved in the program while at the same time providing them with a better mix of aircraft, aircrew training opportunities and so forth.

And I think we achieve mission clarity. I think we achieve more availability for immediate response, some of those scenarios where you have simultaneous incidents and you need to be able to go drop water with a secondary aircraft. We'll have the capability and the ability to be able to do that. So I wouldn't get too hung up on Looking for major cost savings. I think if we were to try to do that, we wouldn't be providing two aircrafts, I can tell you that. We'd have one aircraft and we did discuss that and we did offer that as an option but the preference of both of the organizations involved and I believe the preference of the subcommittee was to not do that. Was to provide for this redundancy in these two aircraft ability to respond.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:06:44 · ≈ 3:06 PM

Thank you, Sheriff. Mr. Buzanich can you tell me from a budgetary standpoint whose budgets how much of the $270,000 comes from each budget then?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed6:06:57 · ≈ 3:06 PM

Chair Farr, you'll probably recall that last year budget season you restored a million dollars to the fire department to maintain their aviation program during this past year. What this plan would envision would be that the resources and what we've actually worked out with the financial folks from each of the departments with the concurrence of the department heads Would be that the money for this combined aviation program would move over into the Sheriff's Department. So, the savings would come really technically from the million dollars of one-time funds you allocated to the fire department program because we're really going to combine the fiscal resources under the Sheriff's Department to run the total program.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:07:47 · ≈ 3:07 PM

Okay, so that line item would just come totally out of the fire department's budget and whatever savings there were overall accrues to the Sheriff's Department.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed6:07:56 · ≈ 3:07 PM

That's correct,

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:07:58 · ≈ 3:07 PM

Chair. Supervisor Carbajal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed6:08:02 · ≈ 3:08 PM

Yes, Sheriff Brown thank you for actually doing a good attempt at trying to get to the information I was looking at I was like Supervisor Farr. I think the way we had it before was also a good program, and what I said that when I was quoted by my colleague here was that we've been trying to get a sense of what are we doing? Is it good or bad? Not as if we've had this bad program.

That's never been the case. The question is there's always been a question of what do we have, what don't we have? And therefore, I was seeking that baseline. What do we have now in terms of our response What's the transition and what will we have now? And you did a really good job of trying to I think Highlight that and that's what I was seeking for. I still would love to have that Elaborated even further because that's what I want to be able to go to my constituents to say well Well, let me tell you what we've done This is what we've had this is what we're going to I will say that the savings are pittance but what's more important is with Sheriff Brown said and that is that we're gonna have a much more effective organizational structure to deliver our missions.

That's really the issue and so as Supervisor Farr said, I was hoping for a lot more savings as well but I think if we just achieve that alone that's a major accomplishment but I really appreciate your attempting to answer that question because that's what I was seeking for. I still would like more data, but maybe the committee had... That's the problem with committees. Whether I serve on it or any of my colleagues serve on it is that they do a lot of work. They know a lot of what transpired, but it's hard for us to assess all of that thinking that went into and quite frankly, I can assure you that as much as I trust my colleagues and the good work they do, I will never take any report hurt line and sinker And that's what I'm doing. I never take anyone report and think that was the panacea to our problems, so that's something I will always seek to get.

Hopefully we get more information as that operational plan comes back. I really would like to see that highlighted, what is it that we're getting? And compare it to what we have now because if we can't convince our constituents that they're getting something better $250,000 savings may not be that much of a savings. It may actually be more of an expense and we can't deliver on goals that we think we're going to realize.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:10:39 · ≈ 3:10 PM

Supervisor Lavinino and then Supervisor Wolf.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.686:10:42 · ≈ 3:10 PM

Thank you Madam Chair. And I didn't know if we had a time for the chief to come up, for Chief Dyer. But that was part of the plan.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:10:49 · ≈ 3:10 PM

Actually you know we were talking about the subcommittee's report but then I think we were going to move into the operational plan and give both the sheriff and the fire chief a chance to address that. Mr. Bozanich is that where we are in the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed6:11:05 · ≈ 3:11 PM

Chair, I would recommend that you ask the Chief and the Sheriff to speak a little bit about the operational plan. We do have some slides to help you with that as well.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:11:18 · ≈ 3:11 PM

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:11:19 · ≈ 3:11 PM

you Madam Chair, members of the Board. Reading you just the start of some remarks that I put together. We have a plan to meet with, we've met individually with all of our air crew and we have a plan to meet directly after this meeting with All of the air crew combined to talk about our expectations and where we're headed with this new unit. And one of the things that I'm going to talk to them about is a book that's recently been written by former LA police chief and New York Police Commissioner Bill Bratton, and co-author by the name of Zachary Tooman who is a professor at JFK University at Harvard.

Our JFK School of Government at Harvard University. And the premise of this book is, the book is called Collaborate or Perish? And the premise of this book is that in this day and age we have got to start collaborating with a broad vision that supporters can add to and can make their own. That we need to right size problems and we need to get value in the hands of users fast.

We need to get the right people involved And we need to make collaboration pay in the right currency, and that can be recognition or reward for individuals. It can be revenue, or in our case I believe it can be cost effectiveness and cost savings. It requires us to reach across boundaries that we traditionally have had But in our case, I believe that by creating a vision, by aligning goals, by breaking down obstacles and working together to innovate we can achieve results that few thought possible. And I believe that we can transform two struggling programs, struggling in terms of financial struggling. The people that are in those programs are outstanding. The aircraft resources that we have are incredible for a county our size.

But they are struggling, as all of us are struggling in this day and age of budget and fiscal constraints. We can take those two programs from two traditional hierarchies, two different organizations, and two organizations frankly that have differing cultures but we can meld them into one agile self-sustaining networked program that provides better protection That is more efficient, that is more cost effective and is more realistic for our county's needs and means.

And is better suited to our citizens' expectations and desires. We are continuing to experience unprecedented budget problems that have been resulting from diminishing revenues and increasing costs. And we've done so for the past five years And we're going to experience those problems in a big way for at least the next several years. And the simple reality is that I believe that without this amalgamation, it's very likely that both of these programs would have perished.

And the fact is that together, I believe we can do things that we cannot do alone and it's gonna take hard work. It's gonna take Good hearts from everybody that's involved. But I believe that the benefits, the upside to all of this is so significant are so significant that we absolutely have to pursue this goal. Chief Dyer and I in our number twos under Sheriff Peterson and Deputy Chief Hahn have been working together to develop the concept of this new unit.

We have developed an MOA that is almost ready to go, still needs a few tweaks and fine-tunes and very minor edits. But we have agreed upon staffing, upon qualifications, basic training requirements, schedules, equipment, and so forth. And we have done so in a collegial and very collaborative and respectful manner. And we haven't always agreed. We didn't get everything that each of us individually wanted in this process.

But we always respected one another and as a result of that, we were able to put together and agree on what I believe is a good plan. And Chief Dyer and I are committed to seeing this new model work, and so are our respective executive and command staffs. And I feel very confident in telling you that I believe that in our individual meetings with our people and in our collective meeting that's coming up today, that same goal, that same desire is going to be expressed on the part of our supervision and our air crew as well.

So I think that the operational guidelines that we've been able to put together have been a compromise, but a good compromise. One that addresses our major concerns while at the same time providing for this more cost effective unit and I'm going to turn it over to Chief Dyer and let him add his two cents worth to it as well.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 35Proposed6:16:39 · ≈ 3:16 PM

Do you have my speaking points? Madam Chair, members of the board. I want to thank the Sheriff and the undersheriff for the collaboration and the committee for their guidance We're facing unprecedented budget cuts in the coming year we all know what happened last year We need an aviation program in this county The sheriff and I are committed together to make sure that we have the finest aviation program possible And I think there is a lot of win-win-win In the future, if we make sure that everybody is cross-trained something we couldn't do apart. Make sure that the cross training goes on. The commitment and dedication day in and day out to that cross training. And making sure that we have two units available at all times you know in case something happens.

And we're committed to make sure that happens. I look forward to working closely with the Sheriff and their staff in the coming months to make sure. Any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:17:37 · ≈ 3:17 PM

Supervisor Green. Mine isn't a question, mine is maybe I'm just so delighted with the outcomes that the subcommittee what the two of you have done. Background, I'm a pilot. I was flying planes in 1976. I loved the aviation program and I watched this when I watched the Board of Supervisors turn down in the 80s planes because they didn't want to get involved and then I saw them finally get started and have guys that just happened to have private pilot licenses fly it. It's been a remarkable, remarkable movement and something that we need so desperately.

And I think what we're getting, what I see on the table right now is maybe a $3 million program that is now going to be worth 4 and maybe 5 million. It's worth way more than it was before you folks started out with this. And following that up, I want to, I don't see Ms. Terry Mosnich here but I think that this particular program and what's happened here should be nominated for a CSAC award This was well, well done. This report what you all did how this all came together is the kind of things that other counties need to see and have a recipe for including the book on collaboration sheriff I mean that's a big part and I'm also going to be nominating this for a winter program for the CSAC conference, because this was really well done. So you can see where my prejudice lies in this.

I just think that you have taken a program that seemed to be struggling and that my constituents were saying get rid of that aviation, get rid of their pet aviation stuff and me saying I don't think so to now where I can tell them with confidence this thing rocks. So thank you all very, very much.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:19:47 · ≈ 3:19 PM

Thank you Supervisor Gray. Sheriff, is this where we can ask you about the Cessna?

PresenterAndy CaldwellCoLabProposedself-stated6:19:53 · ≈ 3:19 PM

Certainly.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:19:55 · ≈ 3:19 PM

The idea is that we would retain the Cessna. Utilized anytime we can utilize our volunteer aerial squadron in its place, but there are times where we don't have pilots available on a volunteer basis. There are times when we need that aircraft for a particular type of mission. There are also types of missions that we have particularly surveillance missions It's the preferred airframe that we need to utilize.

It's fully paid for, it was paid for by drug dealers as a result of the asset forfeiture program and it does take some time for the mechanics to keep it in shape and up and running but its minimal compared to the rotary wing aircrafts and will certainly keep a close eye on it and if it gets to the point where you know they just couldn't deal with all of the aircraft, it would be at the back of the line in terms of the priority. But I think it makes sense for us since it is a fully paid-for asset, since our mechanics are basically fixed cost and fully paid for through the regular budget process that we should retain it.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:21:03 · ≈ 3:21 PM

Okay. And then I'm talking about maintenance, so if this helicopter that we're going to talk about next is accepted, I mean that was all done with volunteer money. So of the aviation assets then that we would have from both departments, we are going to be able to continue that maintenance within the budget that we have and we're not going to be dependent on outside sources of funding to periodically come in and pay for that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:21:34 · ≈ 3:21 PM

I don't think we'd be dependent, but I don't know that we'd turn away any

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:21:38 · ≈ 3:21 PM

assistance. Well, I'm not telling you to turn it down. I just wanted to know. Okay. I'd like to give our staff and our

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed6:21:47 · ≈ 3:21 PM

people who are going to work on the implementation plan at least two or three months, I think, to try to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:21:53 · ≈ 3:21 PM

put this together. But we could come back to you Prior to the implementation date and perhaps during the budget process. This will come up as well, but I see Probably two or three months from now is having made some pretty significant progress towards this and you know we have about 150 days to implement this and I think that You know it's going to be a challenge to do that But I think that we will be able to do it And part of that is because we're going from a model that we did have a previous combined unit The two units are not currently combined per se, but there is a history. There is some basic documentation training and operational manuals that have to be tweaked and have to be reexamined and all that, but the heavy lifting has already been done in this respect.

And I think we're going to be able to put the plan together, develop it in a variety of different areas. You know, this is a very complex program and there are a lot of considerations that go into this. Safety is paramount for all of us. We have, you know, aircraft maintenance. We have aircraft training requirements. We have the various different disciplines, different training requirements and as Chief Dyer said this gives us an opportunity to really come together develop joint training schedules, joint ability to stretch the limited dollars that we'll have.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed6:23:37 · ≈ 3:23 PM

For me, what I'm more interested in isn't so much just the sort of we kind of ironed it out. We're working it. I'd rather see you come back here about a year from now and then two or three months have some performance measures that we will look to in a year by which we can rate how we're doing. That would be helpful. In most reports, it's always great to get some performance measures that we hope to achieve And that's what I was referring to earlier as a baseline because then you're able to see what we're trying to accomplish. But I may be the only one who pursues that information, but it would be really helpful. I think...I'm not so much interested in the two or three month sort of status report as I am in the one year look back to make sure that it's going as we had hoped and if there's not were able to address those challenges.

Well

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:24:27 · ≈ 3:24 PM

certainly we will do that. And give you an update, but I think you know we'll certainly be working on this and there's no reason why I don't think we could give you a kind of a status report as things are going along. And I do just want to add one more thing Supervisor Gray appreciate all of your comments But you said a three million dollar program. This is actually a two million dollar programs It's worth It's absolutely priceless as far as we're

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:24:56 · ≈ 3:24 PM

concerned. Sheriff, one of our recommended actions today says to request an implementation status report from both you and the fire chief. And this says July 2012 and then January 2013 or sooner if circumstances warrant. For me, I'm hoping that perhaps you could come back in May which would give us a chance to kind of get an update on how you're doing with it prior to budget in June. And then about a year later from now is what was said so that would be like January

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:25:28 · ≈ 3:25 PM

again. That sounds like a good plan and there's no reason we can't do that.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:25:31 · ≈ 3:25 PM

OK

CommentFinal ReportProposed6:25:32 · ≈ 3:25 PM

I'm sorry Supervisor Wolf. Thank you. I want to thank as you're both standing there, I want to thank you and your teams again. You know we talk about the MOA or the MOU and I mentioned that Ventura has an MOU as does Kern County so when we met and we put some of our principles together We handed it off to the boat to the two of you to work on the things that you just talked about. The staffing issues, which really was I think the most important thing because we did not want to decimate this program if we wanted to save a lot of money that would have been pretty easy.

We basically kept the resources were going and hopefully we're going to accept copter three in the next action but but we knew of the importance of the different missions. The fact that you two, and you said it's not completely tied up yet. But the fact that you two have come together and developed an MOU that you can agree on is Is incredibly significant and I just, I can't restate that enough because.

Um, I think you were, you guys were getting close even before we got involved. And so you've just taken that next step. So it's not like anything miraculous happened. I'm not sure what, what happened, but um, You did it. You pulled it together and I'm, um, I'm thrilled and I feel like our county will be safe and well served. Thank you so much.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:27:29 · ≈ 3:27 PM

Thank you. All right, members of the public who would like to speak? No request to speak. I'm sorry. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:27:40 · ≈ 3:27 PM

have a request from Project Rescue Flight but I don't know if you want to speak on this one or the next item.

CommentNathan AlleyProposed · by introduction6:27:44 · ≈ 3:27 PM

I just had a comment that I wanted to share on what you just ended and that is because I listened to all of it and great concern obviously As a citizen who lives in the San Ynez Valley and I've been involved one way or another with aviation for almost 15 years now in the county. I think that it's a disservice to say That somebody that has less than 3,000 hours isn't a professional pilot.

Okay? And it was said and I actually wrote down the words that's described the deputies who flew as being deputies first and they became pilots whereas the fire guys were pilots first and became firemen Or however you want to describe it. I think that is a canard, okay? They're all professional pilots. The 3,000 hour thing doesn't whether or not you made it over that 3000 hours or not even that number I could tell you is arbitrary because the state requirement and the federal requirements 1500 hours.

The point is these guys have figured out how to put the unit together and do better for the county and Ms. Gray, you're right we need to applaud that because this is yeoman's work. This is really hard stuff to do and I would submit to you Mr. Carbajal that there are savings that you can't see right now that you can't even talk about right now because mission creep mission who's going to go get to the this one should we do this? Should we do a hoist? Should we go Into the back country with a cop to when somebody could go on a horse or on foot and get there's a lot of stuff that they're going to ferret out now in a way that is as sure Brown and fire chief Dwyer said.

They will die or they will. They'll do it in a collegial fashion, and I think that there are some efficiencies that will come from that that are actually good. And I think overall this program raises the bar in terms of our ability to deliver for the citizens of Santa Barbara County. So that's good. Thanks.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:29:54 · ≈ 3:29 PM

Thank you. All right. We'll bring it back to the board then. Ready to have any more discussion or make a motion? I think Supervisor Wolf had her light on first and Supervisor Loughnane. You

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.686:30:10 · ≈ 3:30 PM

get to go first this

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:30:11 · ≈ 3:30 PM

time.

CommentFinal ReportProposed6:30:12 · ≈ 3:30 PM

I'm going to move this item that we move forward and recommend that the Board of Supervisors move to accept items A, B, C, and D as noted in the staff report.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.686:30:23 · ≈ 3:30 PM

And I'd like to second that.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:30:25 · ≈ 3:30 PM

Thank you. And would the maker of the motion consider changing July to May 2012 in recommendation C? That was acceptable. Yes, that's fine. Thank you. All right, we have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you everybody very much. Why don't we just move right into the next item which is related to this. Item number nine also from the Sheriff's Department Mr. Allen would you read that into the record please?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:30:59 · ≈ 3:30 PM

Madam Chair item 9 is from the sheriff it's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the acceptance of equipment donations installed on Sheriff's Office Helicopter 3

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:31:08 · ≈ 3:31 PM

Thank you Madam Chair, members of the board. The purpose of this item is to bring before you a very exciting and a very innovative way of acquiring one of what will be the front line medium lift helicopters that will be in the program that we just were talking about. This copter, Copter 3 will on its institution be called Guardian 3. This aircraft is one that has a very interesting and rich history.

It was an airframe that was built during the Vietnam War era, it was a training aircraft that trained members of the U.S. Army who went to Vietnam. The aircraft was acquired by the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office in Colorado, and it was utilized by the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office in a variety of different capacities. It has had some very interesting passengers in its day.

It flew the first President George Bush. It flew Mother Teresa. It also has a couple of notorious connections historically. It was on standby during the tragic Columbine shootings that occurred in Colorado, and it was also used to transport Ted Kaczynski to the federal penitentiary for his maximum security life sentence. The aircraft was acquired by our department through the 1033 program as federal surplus.

As mentioned, these aircraft are always owned by the federal government and we paid I believe a dollar symbolically to Jefferson County to get this aircraft but when we got it it was in need of a total refurbishment, a total overhaul. The former Sheriff's Council, the predecessor to our current Sheriff's Benevolent Posse took on as a project trying to raise funds to get this aircraft refurbished so that it could be put into the inventory as a search and rescue helicopter that had full capabilities for hoist rescue and had a medical deck.

They raised a significant amount of money, but it became obvious and they gave that money. They put that money into trust in essence for us. They raised $950,000 for that endeavor. But that wasn't enough to complete this aircraft and what's happened is that we had Through some vision and through some creativity and through some very hard work on the part of two of our members of the Sheriff's Office, and a number of people in the community. They got together and came up with an idea of putting together a 501C3 called Project Rescue Flight to fund the remaining balance of this helicopter.

And at the time, I think it was only thought that it might be a couple of hundred thousand dollars. Over time, that amount grew and grew and grew so that – and I don't have the report or something on the exact amount but I believe it's somewhere in the neighborhood of about $2 million has been put thus far into the refurbishment of this helicopter. And it will be a state-of-the-art aircraft with a glass cockpit, full medical deck.

It will have a tank that will allow for two water drops to be made. It will truly be a multi-mission capable aircraft that is going to be a tremendous asset to us. It's not been an easy journey for us to get this aircraft. The gentleman who and his company who is refurbishing this up in the Redding area has been dubbed the Michelangelo of helicopter production. And it's actually taken him longer to fix this and get it ready than Michelangelo took to paint the Sistine Chapel, so I'm sure it's going to be really good. We are expecting to take delivery of this helicopter within the next several weeks and we're expecting to have the aircraft available online probably in mid- to late March.

Aircraft, as I say, is a UH-1H. It's a super Huey. It will have more lift capability than a regular UH-2 Huey helicopter. It will have the ability to do a full range of missions – tactical support, transportation, insertion of personnel like members of our SWAT team on an incident There is the ability for aerial cover for critical incidents, search and rescue, counter-drug and counter-terror missions, surveillance and insertions, medical evacuation, and initial attack fire suppression. This aircraft Unlike the FEPP aircraft that the fire department currently operates, this aircraft under the 1033 does not have is not subject to the 9010 rule which means that it's we can use it for any type of mission. Law enforcement, fire or medical can be utilized for that as long as it's operated by our agency So there's no flight restrictions.

And as I said, it has hoist capabilities for rescue and it has a tank that has a snorkel so the tank can be refilled without having to land the aircraft. It can actually be filled off of current from reservoirs and such. It also has advanced avionics, night vision, GPS tracking, a moving map system The medical deck is a state-of-the-art medical deck and it will provide a tremendous augmentation to our unit. And do we have some other photographs or is that the only one? This is the aircraft, kind of a shot of the outside of it and I think we have a couple more pictures for you to see so you can get an idea of it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:37:16 · ≈ 3:37 PM

Can I ask him a question? Bill, I thought that has 1,000 hours on it. I thought it was right out of the box. Somebody came and told me...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:37:24 · ≈ 3:37 PM

It will have no hours on its new engine, you know rebuilt transmission all of that but the aircraft I think has About 10,000 hours?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:37:33 · ≈ 3:37 PM

That's right. That's what I read.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:37:34 · ≈ 3:37 PM

About 10,000 hours in its lifetime it's flown since it was built. Well did you ever have

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:37:37 · ≈ 3:37 PM

one that was right out of a box? No.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:37:40 · ≈ 3:37 PM

Right out of the box is about $8 million so we're not expecting

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:37:43 · ≈ 3:37 PM

that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:37:43 · ≈ 3:37 PM

anytime soon. Yeah. Anyway, it's a tremendous aircraft and I'd like if you'd like to take the action and then if I might be so bold, I have prepared in anticipation of you probably accepting this, I have prepared some certificates of appreciation to three people in particular who've been instrumental in us acquiring this aircraft and that is Deputy John Simon and Deputy Greg Weitzman from The Sheriff's Air Support Unit and John Wilczak, who you just heard from here, who is the current president of the Sheriff's Benevolent Posse and a former member of the Sheriff's Council. And has been instrumental in helping fundraise and get this to become a reality so...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:38:29 · ≈ 3:38 PM

I know who told me it was right. I thought I heard it was John Simon that I thought told me it was right out of the box. You didn't tell me that, right? No, I'm sorry. You got that somewhere.

CommentFinal ReportProposed6:38:40 · ≈ 3:38 PM

Supervisor Wolf. Thank you, either Sheriff Brown or Chief Dyer one of the things that we found during our discussions was I don't want to say our inability but we didn't really do We didn't go out to the islands that we pretty much depended on Ventura Aviation Unit To take care of any search and rescue operations and that was a concern of the subcommittee

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed6:39:06 · ≈ 3:39 PM

right

CommentFinal ReportProposed6:39:07 · ≈ 3:39 PM

and And I think we have one helicopter that could go out there, but by having this copter three. This one is definitely equipped to go out to the islands to do rescues.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:39:21 · ≈ 3:39 PM

Well, the reality is And we may have, I may have misled you unintentionally a little bit because I wasn't aware of actually some of the nuances. But the reality is this aircraft that we're getting and receiving is a single engine aircraft. The other... Oh yeah, I thought

CommentFinal ReportProposed6:39:37 · ≈ 3:39 PM

it was a double.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:39:38 · ≈ 3:39 PM

No, the one, the Copter 4, the one that we got A year or so ago from the Marine Corps, it is a twin engine helicopter.

CommentFinal ReportProposed6:39:45 · ≈ 3:39 PM

And

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:39:45 · ≈ 3:39 PM

actually

CommentFinal ReportProposed6:39:46 · ≈ 3:39 PM

in our report just so everyone's, it is in our report that Copter 4 is a twin engine?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:39:51 · ≈ 3:39 PM

Correct.

CommentFinal ReportProposed6:39:52 · ≈ 3:39 PM

I guess I just always assume this one

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:39:53 · ≈ 3:39 PM

was. Yeah now this is a single engine and you know I was always under the impression that it was a requirement by the islands, by the federal government that you had to have a twin engine to fly out there. And I found out that that is not correct. They have some other rules where they utilize twin-engine aircraft for certain things but not for rescue operations and Ventura County is very similar to us in that they have one of their aircraft as a twin engine and the rest are all single engine. And the preference is if you have all these aircraft available to fly the twin-engine aircraft over large bodies of water Because if one engine goes out, you can fly back to dry ground on the other engine and you're not ditching the helicopter.

However, members of the Ventura Air Unit and conceivably our air unit will at times perhaps still be utilizing this aircraft to do an island mission if that's the only one that's available and it's a life-threatening emergency. And our aircraft are equipped and our pilots are trained in how to evacuate an aircraft over the water but we certainly would have a preference for the twin engine but it's not a legal requirement.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:41:06 · ≈ 3:41 PM

All right. Any other questions or comments from the board?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.686:41:11 · ≈ 3:41 PM

I think, Sheriff, are you going to hand out the certificates now? How about you accept it and then we give them out? I'm gonna make a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:41:15 · ≈ 3:41 PM

motion that we accept it because I've been the one that's been most worried about this, I think.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:41:21 · ≈ 3:41 PM

All right. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. All right

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:41:38 · ≈ 3:41 PM

All right, first I'd like to read what this says. It's a Certificate of Appreciation and it says presented on behalf of the men and women at the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office to Sheriff's Deputy Special Duty John Simon for your dedication and determination in raising funds for Project Rescue Flight. Thank you for helping to enhance the safety of those who live in and visit Santa Barbara County as stated this 7th of February 2012. Congratulations and thank you.

And then we have a similar plaque, similarly worded for Sheriff Sergeant Greg Weitzman. And again, somebody who has done a tremendous job supporting not only our air operations but the Sheriff's Office generally. He's been instrumental in really holding together and growing the Sheriff's Benevolent Posse. He's been instrumental in helping us salvage our Their program by having the sheriff's benevolent posse pay for the cost of an officer to continue to their officer one of our deputies to continue to provide that service and he is a true friend of the sheriff's office and it's with pride and pleasure. I present John Wilsack with a similarly worded certificate.

CommentNathan AlleyProposed · by introduction6:43:03 · ≈ 3:43 PM

Mr. Wilson like to add a couple words and that is, Project Rescue Flight's work isn't over. You know, Copter 4 is down in Burbank now being worked on and we're pouring another $350,000 of private money into that copter to make sure that we have the best equipment available for your now joint team and will continue to raise money privately to help the county in a time of need And Sheriff Brown's right, the project rescue flight was born from a need. We needed to have a medium lift copter that the county owned and so these two gentlemen took it upon themselves to make sure that we acquired one and when they came to me and said we've got to raise money for this thing I said let's form a 501c3 and go get it and now that this has been done We'll probably run an ad in the local newspapers to thank all the people from the former Sheriff's Council, all the people outside the Sheriff's Council who made donations etc.

when it finally comes because we're going to celebrate I hope when this helicopter actually shows up and introduces it to the community, because this really is what public-private partnerships are all about. And I'm trying to foster more of that in the county. The DARE program with the Sheriff's Posse is another aspect of what we're doing. It's a vital program for our youth. You don't have the money. We're privately raising the money to do it and expand the program.

Similarly, you have a Special Enforcement Task Force. They needed resources. I formed another 501c3 to help them and we've gotten a lot done in the last 12 months for them as well. So there are people out there and there are foundations out there and funds out there that will support things that are here but we can't count on supporting them forever. So I hope that you as a board see to it that we try and get the resources that we have in this county Productive so we can bring some more revenue in and fund these kinds of programs and everything else that you're working on in a fashion That we'd like to become accustomed to. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:45:27 · ≈ 3:45 PM

Thank You, Mr. Wilczak thank you for being here And thank you for all your years of support for the Sheriff's Department and their vital missions All right. That being said, I guess we've concluded the agenda today. I have somebody to close in memory of but does somebody else have?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:45:45 · ≈ 3:45 PM

Yeah, I'd like to go first because this is from the Sheriff's Department. I know Sheriff Brown went to Hank Robledo's funeral today and I'd like to adjourn in Hank's honor and if you would like to maybe just talk a bit about him, Sheriff, I really appreciate it because he's a good guy.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:46:02 · ≈ 3:46 PM

I appreciate that, Supervisor Gray. I was earlier at the funeral for Sheriff's Deputy Hank Robledo who worked for 37 years for our organization more than half of his life and it was very apparent that he was an incredibly respected and appreciated person not only in our organization but in the ELKS organization, in the Santa Maria community with all of his other friends and family. So I think it's a very fitting and appropriate tribute for you to end this meeting in his honor. Thank you

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by roll call6:46:33 · ≈ 3:46 PM

very much. Thank you, Sheriff. And I'd like to close in memory of a San Ynez Valley resident for a long time, Betty Jameson who passed away on January 18th. She attended Elmira College and she received a B.S. in Nursing Science in 1943 then joined the U.S Navy Nurse Corps and saw service at various naval installations on the East Coast Then she and her husband Roger moved to California in 1965, coming to the Santa Anas Valley. She became Nursing Director of Santa Anas Valley Hospital, a position she held for 12 years and then became Supervisor for the Visiting Nurse Service of Northern Santa Barbara County.

Retired in 1989, served on the Board of Directors of Visiting Nurse Service. I later served on the San Ynez Valley Hospital Board of Directors. Served for many years on Friendship House Board of Directors. One of the founding members of Hospice of the San Ynez Valley and additionally she was named Businesswoman of the Year 1975 and was a long time member of the San Ynez Valley Cottage Hospital Auxiliary.

And I guess was also a very avid and upbeat hiker. So she was recently honored in recognition ceremonies conducted by the Rotary Club for her service in World War II as a Navy nurse, and she is also the mother of Joni Jamieson who is a Salt Lake City Council member so we also adjourn in her honor. Thank you everybody. We will be adjourned until next week, the 14th in Santa Maria.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed6:48:02 · ≈ 3:48 PM

¶. ¶¶ Hi. Hi, everyone. Yeah.