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Good morning everyone and welcome to this regular meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors of August 21st, 2012. Mr. Allen would you call the roll please?
Ms. Gray? Mr. Labagnino? Here! Mr. Carbajal? Here! Ms. Wolk? Here. Ms. Farr?
Here Would y'all
Thank you. We're going to go ahead and take our administrative agenda first. We have a number of wonderful resolutions we want to present, and then we will go to public comment before we start our D agenda. Pardon? Oh, I'm sorry. Skip the minutes. How about approving the minutes first? One motion to approve the minutes second by Supervisor Lavagnino. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. Okay now we'll go to the administrative agenda. Mr. Allen do have any changes or corrections?
Madam Chair, I just have one note on Item A-16. This item is from General Services and it comes to the Board acting as a successor agency to the former Santa Barbara County Redevelopment Agency. I want to read into the record in correct language on Recommendation A and that would be to approve and authorize the chair to execute the lease agreement in substantial conformity Okay, do we have any items that board members want to pull?
Nothing to pull. All right, then we have any public speakers for the admin agenda?
We have requests to speak on items A14, 15, 16 and 17.
All right why don't we go ahead and have a motion to approve the balance of the agenda and then we will take those items. Motion in a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Alright, why don't we go ahead and present our resolutions and then we will take public comment on the balance of the items since we've approved those. Mr. Allen would you read the first resolution to be presented?
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Madam Chair if I could start that off please. Madam Chair if we could have Mr. Steve Cushman come forward Madam Chair, fellow board members and members of the public. It is a great honor for me to present this resolution to Mr. Cushman before Mr. Allen reads all the fine details I just want to say that I have known Mr. Cushman for God, as long as I've been in Santa Barbara pretty much and have always seen his leadership in particular in the business community which is the sector that he was involved with and from which he retired to the Santa Barbara Region Chamber of Commerce but his fingerprints and footprints I'm going to say have been with so many projects in this community whether it's Kids World, whether it's one of the many economic forums or organizations in town.
He's raised over if I remember over 60 million dollars over his many years. He is the longest serving executive director of the Santa Barbara Region Chamber of Commerce since its inception. Mr. Cushman I think represents The best in the business community, somebody who I think I personally saw evolve over the years. And I think Steve attempted to bring all sectors of the community together for the purpose of economic development and I think it wasn't really pitting one group against another or one sector against another but rather really trying to find that common ground And I really learned a lot from Steve and I'm just very honored to present this resolution to him on his retirement from the Santa Barbara Region Chamber of Commerce and for extraordinary, his extraordinary many years of leadership and service in our community.
Thank you Steve and Mr. Allen if you could read the resolution?
Madam Chair, Members of the Board. This resolution honors Steve Cushman upon his retirement from the Santa Barbara Region Chamber of Commerce. Whereas, Steve Cushman is retiring after serving as President of the Santa Barbara Region Chamber of Commerce for the past 24 years, the longest-serving president in the 113 year history of the chamber. And whereas, as President of the Chamber Steve Cushman has been a leader in promoting civic engagement in our community. This includes organizing the annual State of the City that brings together business and government officials to inform the greater community on current affairs in the city. The Eastside Business Center that has provided counseling and funding for local startup businesses. Organizing fundraising events for the widow and children of former Navy SEALs Lou Langlais.
Counseling and mentoring over 1,000 new business people Creating the Chamber's Business Leaders Council. and helped raise over $114,000 to fund Chance for Change scholarships offered to at-risk youth in Santa Barbara City College. And whereas Steve Cushman has served on more than 100 nonprofit boards and commissions and assisted in raising over $60 million for local projects. His efforts have helped produce more than 1,000 events such as the Santa Barbara Marathon, the Santa Barbara Arts Festival, the Book and Author Festival, Fiesta on the Fairways golf tournaments The Phoenix World Tennis Championships and led the installation of the Kids World Playground at Alameda Park in 1994, in which 4,000 volunteers were recruited and $500,000 were raised to build the playground in five days.
And whereas, in addition to his role as president of the Santa Barbara Region Chamber of Commerce, Steve produced and hosted local radio and television series. The Commerce Radio Program has been on the air for more than 20 years and is the longest-running locally produced radio program in Santa Barbara County. And whereas Steve Cushman is a local author and sculptor, his work can be seen at Sullivan Goss Gallery and in local businesses throughout town. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors honors Steve Cushman upon his retirement from the Santa Barbara Region Chamber of Commerce and further commends him for his dedicated service to the residents of Santa Barbara County. Passing adopted today.
I want to thank you for this award. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate it and I appreciate the recognition. I'm not done in Santa Barbara. It's been a wonderful ride. I've really enjoyed working with all the organizations that I'll continue to work with. I thought it was very appropriate today that you're honoring Devereaux. I worked at Devereaux with the kids back in 1967. It was one of the most interesting experiences of my life You're honoring 40 years of youth baseball, and I think I played baseball for about 40 years. And you've got Bill Vincentard here.
And Wayne and I think the Forresters have always, we listened to the final Forresters game in the restaurant tavern in Los Angeles. People were looking at us like what are you doing? And we gave a big cheer when Bill won the game so. And my wife is here Sheila Cushman who's leading the effort to build a new Children's Museum which will be even more spectacular than the playground that we built with 4,000 volunteers. So thank you for the recognition.
Thank you.
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All right, and I think Supervisor Carbajal you're also presenting the next resolution.
Thank you. If we could have Mr. Steven Croson come up? Madam Chair, again I'm very honored to present this resolution. I got to know Mr. Steve Crossland in Pony League Baseball. I have an 11 year old boy named Michael and as all parents we try to find constructive things for them to get involved with in sports to build character and all those wonderful things that team sports provide And so I enrolled my son in the Pony League, baseball league here in Santa Barbara and got to know Mr. Crossland and realized what a wonderful organization not only for the outcome of what it, the impact that has on our youth but All those volunteers, Mr. Crossland leads the organization and this is its 40th anniversary and I got to tell you it's all volunteers that do this they raise the money all the coaches are volunteers Mr.
Crossland doesn't get paid a cent but he's out there mowing the lawn checking up on all the teams making sure all the parents are engaged being good parents and boosters versus destructive behaviors like some parents can be. It has just been an amazing experience for my son and the many families that play in the league, and I know it wouldn't be possible without people like Mr. Crossland, so today as we honor the 40th anniversary of the Greater Santa Barbara Youth Baseball League I also want to pay tribute to Mr. Crossland for his personal leadership, his involvement and his selfless generosity towards the many families and children of our community. Thank you Steve. Mr. Allen if you could read this?
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Madam Chair, members of the Board. This resolution honors the Greater Santa Barbara Youth Baseball upon its 40th anniversary whereas Greater Santa Barbara Youth Baseball has been a South Coast tradition since 1972 offering youth ages 6 through 15 an opportunity to learn and participate in America's national pastime And whereas the mission statement of Santa Barbara Youth Baseball to serve local youth through the game of baseball by creating an environment that focuses on player development is fun for all players, teaches life skills through competition and fosters a passion and respect for the game of baseball.
And whereas, Greater Santa Barbara Youth Baseball is an all-volunteer organization in which coaches, players, parents and other community members donate their time and energy during the fall and spring seasons that has over 500 youth participating. And whereas, in the effort to serve all youth on the South Coast, Greater Santa Barbara Youth Baseball raises over $10,000 annually for scholarships and receives over 2,000 in equipment donations to ensure that every youth is able to play regardless of financial circumstances.
And whereas, Ryan Spilboros with the Cleveland Indians and Dylan Axelrod with the Chicago White Sox are two current Major League Baseball players who once played Santa Barbara Youth Baseball. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors honors and commends the coaches, players, parents, and other volunteers upon the 40th anniversary of greater Santa Barbara Youth Baseball passing adopted today.
I want to thank Salud Carball for recognizing our organization and the efforts that we put into it. It is the 40th year of Santa Barbara Pony Baseball. I happen to be the president at this time, but obviously there's been people that have come before me that have gotten us to this point and started the league originally in 1970 with play beginning in 1972. We partner with the City of Santa Barbara.
They support our activities through relationships on fields and supplies, and in return we provide the baseball activities for the city. We typically have about 375 kids that play in spring and 125 kids that play in fall. And again, all of our coaches, volunteers, people who are doing the fields, everybody's volunteer. There's not anybody that gets paid out of this.
Our All-Star teams this year Just to be real quick, we had three of our all-star teams advance out of districts. Which is what you're seeing right now on ESPN are teams that have advanced four or five different levels. We're a smaller organization and it's a big accomplishment for our kids to advance out of the primary levels. And we had three teams at a Santa Barbara Pony advance out of the primary levels and I believe there were two out of San Ynez.
So, congratulations to the San Ynez. I'd like to tell you guys a quick story. It's a little emotional for me because I know this kid well. In spring we have walk-up registrations and a lady walked up to me. She didn't speak very good English. I don't speak very good Spanish. She had her...I think the son was nine years old with his name is Jairo Villasenor And when Jairo walked up to me, you know you could tell he wanted to play baseball and I told his mom hey we'll figure out how to get it done. She asked if we had any scholarships and I just looked at her and said we'll make this happen.
So we got him through the lack of communication. We eventually got him signed up and I asked if he had a glove. The answer was no. I said Jairo, I'll get your glove. And so I asked him, hey, Jairo, do you have a bat? He said no. So I walked in my car and I pulled out an old bat and I gave it to him and his face just lit up. Never thought I'd really see the end results of that. And about a week-and-a-half later when practices had just started, I saw Jairo and I was speaking to his mom and she said that he had been sleeping with the bat.
Excuse me. So that's why we do this, so that the kids that play All-Stars can play. So that kids like Jairo can play and so I just want to thank you for that.
Thank you so much for your work And I think that all of us that are parents and have volunteered time for youth activities, particularly sports, realize what an enormous job you take on as a volunteer. And all the parents do for their children and for the children of other people. So thank you again, and that's what really makes good citizens a good foundation for that. Thank you again.
All right, we'll go on to our next resolution which is where we get to honor our employee of the month. Which is of course something that we do every month and this month we're going to honor CeCe Celia Caldwell from Planning and Development Department CC is one of these people that works very hard like all of our county family and isn't always in the spotlight, like some of our other staff here at the board. But it's our opportunity to honor you for all the fine work that you do day in and day out for all of us to help make the department and the county work better. So Mr. Allen would you read the resolution?
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Madam Chair, Members of the Board. This is a resolution of commendation for Celia Caldwell, Employee of the Month for Santa Barbara County for August 2012. Celia Caldwell, better known as CeCe to friends has worked as a clerk typist, office assistant and administrative office professional in the Billing Development Review North and Administration Divisions of Planning and Development.
And whereas, Celia has provided internal and external customers with the highest level of customer service as Planning & Development's South County Receptionist always willing to go the extra mile to answer each and every inquiry she receives with a thoughtful, timely, and accurate response. And whereas, Celia is happy to share her thorough knowledge of pop culture, song lyrics, and photographs from her trips around the world including her recent trip to Abbey Road in England And whereas, Celia may possibly have the tidiest workstation of any employee in the County of Santa Barbara.
And whereas, Celia very carefully manages the front office with an unparalleled level of control and grace under pressure exemplifying the county's core values of accountability, customer focus, and efficiency. And whereas, CeCe's demeanor is always cheerful and warm commuting from Lompoc to Santa Barbara each day for work without a single complaint. And whereas, Celia is a true friend to all members of the county family. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that the Board of Supervisors recognizes Celia Caldwell for exceptional and continuous contributions as Employee of the Month for the Santa Barbara County for 2012
Before CeCe talks, I just wanted to emphasize a couple of things that were mentioned in the resolution. She is staffed to our South County reception desk and so she is the face of the department and she does an outstanding job. I think that she is probably the very best that we've had in that position. Also it was mentioned that she commutes from North County every day Never complains at all. And I think an indication of who she is, is something that I received yesterday from her which is I sent out an email to all staff saying that she is going to be recognized and please congratulate her on this well-deserved award. People emailed her and here's how she responded. Thank you all. It's always a pleasure working with all of you. You are also nice and wonderful.
I dedicate this award to everyone because you all deserve it.
Thank you. Congratulations.
Thank you. Supervisor Farr and members of the Board of Supervisors, Ms. Waller and Ms. Ball, thank you for this meeting, and the management and staff of Planning & Development. I would like to thank you all for choosing me as the Employee of the Month. It's really a great honor for me and this will serve us an inspiration for me to do my job better and to serve the public. You're also nice I'm so happy to work with all of you because I have these wonderful people around me. And the long commute is not really a problem to me because every day I come here, I'm still happier because I could see these beautiful people around me, all my co-workers and my friends.
And also the management of planning and development. Thank you very much for being so kind and so nice And also special mention to my supervisor here, Mr. David Villalobos and his staff, Sharon Foster and Anita McFaul. They're also helpful. They're always there for me helping me when I need them. So I think the county is really the best employer that I ever had especially for a immigrant from another country. It taught me a lot of things, you know, experiences It gave me the vision of how the government works and all these rules and regulations. I can use it in my daily tasks.
Also, I would like to thank all my co-workers from the admin staff especially, and the management too, and then the staff from Development Review North County and South County, Energy Division, Long Range Planning and Building and Safety North and South. I'm dedicating this award to all of you, and thank you. So all I can say is more power to the county in planning and development, and Mabuhay meaning long live! Thank you.
That is the kind of employee we love.
Madam Chair,
yes.
I'm looking at the last name Caldwell and more power to the county In planning and development, you are not related to Andy Caldwell. I'm just checking.
All right we still have more wonderful resolutions to present and the next one is to honor the 100th anniversary of Devereux. Is Janice Johnson here? She would come forward. Anybody else representing Devereux? Everybody here from Devereux, come on up to accept this. We'll give you an opportunity in a moment to introduce everybody that's here but certainly very proud that the Devereux campus is in my district obviously been an institution here for a very long time serving this community and serving so many others really throughout the world So we wanted to give you this resolution and this honor for the 100th anniversary of Devereux and for the past, present and future work that we know that you're going to do for the people of this county.
Mr. Allen would you go ahead and read the resolution?
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Madam Chair, members of the board, this resolution honors the 100th anniversary of Devereux And we're going to get started, whereas in 1912 a Philadelphia school teacher named Helena Debrau founded an organization which would give in quotes slow learners a second chance by recognizing the uniqueness of each child and that child's right to develop his or her own potential whatever that may be.
And whereas Helena Devereaux did independent study in the fields of psychology, speech therapy and similar disciplines. She apprenticed in occupational therapy, woodwork and handicrafts and studied medicine, endocrinology, psychiatry and psychoanalysis with experts in those fields. Ms. Devereux was the first non-medical woman elected to the Honorary Fellow of American Psychiatric Association in 1958 and would be recognized over the course of her lifetime by many organizations for outstanding achievements and advocacy for individuals with special needs.
And whereas, when families urged her to bring her programs to the West Coast so that their loved ones could learn and be cared for closer to their home, Ms. Devereaux found a way to purchase the former Campbell Ranch on the coastal bluff at Coal Oil Point in 1945. The Devereaux Ranch School in Santa Barbara was the first residential treatment program outside of Pennsylvania established by Helena Devereaux who was lauded as a pioneer in special education.
And whereas, in Santa Barbara County alone, Devereux has provided a wide range of educational, vocational, clinical, therapeutic and recreational opportunities for thousands of children and adults during its seven decades of providing services here. It's provided volunteer opportunities, internships and employment for thousands of students and dedicated workers.
In West, Devereux California has had a large impact on local employment and the economy of Santa Barbara County through its history. With more than 200 individuals and families served by 650 staff at its peak of operation. Currently 150 staff provide services to 80 adults and families on the five acre campus and in homes and apartments throughout the communities of Santa Barbara, Goleta, Buellton and Lompoc.
And whereas, having evolved along with the philosophy of the State of California and its regional centers toward a more community-focused services and more government funded individuals, Devereux California has sustained state budget crises backed by the support of its 100 year old organization. Both nationally and locally it is never wavered from Helena Devereux's philosophy that every individual is a program no matter what challenges have arisen.
Now therefore be it resolved that this Board of Supervisors hereby honors the 100th anniversary and centennial celebration with Devereux, California at their annual Devereux Day gathering of families and friends and commends Devereux for having become during its first 100 years the largest non-profit provider of behavioral health care services in the United States with 6,000 dedicated staff providing services to 15,000 individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities emotional and or behavioral disorders.
Passing adopted by the Board of Supervisors today by unanimous vote.
I'd like to thank you for this honor of a proclamation for the hundred years. Our organization was started by a woman 100 years ago with $96, who brought in three people whom she thought she could help and that was now a result of a national organization and I'm fairly new too I've been here in California since 1945. One individual with me has been here that entire time and we still volunteer at the Coal Oil Point for the restoration project, you can find us at the Ivy Co-op selling plants at the farmer's market. We have individuals being supported in the community and we're very grateful to be able to be part of the County of Santa Barbara and be able to participate and especially to be honored right now.
Thank you very much.
We will wish you another wonderful hundred years into the
future
for the work that you do, thank you. Alright, our next resolution is also a resolution of commendation for our 100th anniversary and this is the 100th anniversary of the San Ynez Library. Now if you didn't know that San Ynez had a library you're probably not alone there's actually one in Los Olivos as well Very small but very, very beloved by the community and a very heavily used. So Carolyn Lawrence I think is here to accept this proclamation in honor of the 100th anniversary.
Mr. Allen would you go ahead and read that?
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Madam Chair, members of the board, this is a resolution honoring the 100th anniversary of the Santa Ynez Library Whereas, the San Ys library first opened in 1910 as a college hotel and is the first county branch building in the state of California. And whereas, the community had a dinner dance and raised funds for a separate building for the San Is library which was built in 1912.
And whereas, in 1972 the library was moved one block west to its present location. And whereas, in 1977 the Santa Barbara Board of Supervisors designated the library as Santa Barbara County Historical Landmark Number 11. And whereas the library has been a continuous operation for 100 years. And whereas the San Ynez Library remains an active reminder of the community's esteem for history and the importance of libraries.
Now, therefore be it ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors hereby honors and celebrates the 100th anniversary of the San Yez Library passed and adopted today.
Thank you very much, Madam Supervisor and supervisors. Friends of the Library of Santa Ana's Valley, I greatly appreciate the support of Supervisor Farr for our local libraries. In the Santa Ana's Valley attached to this Santa Barbara Public Library as branches we have three local libraries. We have the Solvang Branch Library which more people are familiar with.
We have the Los Olivos Library and we have the Santa Anez Library. The tiny Santa Anez library has actually been in existence for 102 years, but it operated for two years out of the college hotel in Santa Anez. But a community group had a fundraiser and local dance, and built the building. So the tiny 10 by 14 building or 12 by 14 Redwood Building stands as a monument to the history of the community and as a monument to the community's value for education, lifelong learning, and for libraries.
We, as the friends are having a little party on Saturday night to celebrate this library and raise a few funds to spruce her up a little bit and keep her going. So we cordially invite the community to our event at the San Ynez Valley Historical Museum. Thank you very much.
And Santa Nez knows how to throw a party. So if you can go, I encourage everybody to go. All right now we get to honor somebody who's going to be retiring as a custody deputy under Sheriff Peterson did you want to come on up? We're gonna be honoring Custody Deputy Special Duty Tracy Joanne Martinez upon her retirement from the sheriff's office after working for us for over 22 years so Once again, this is why we do resolutions and proclamations because we don't want to miss these opportunities to really thank and honor our employees who have been with us for such a long time and provided such outstanding service. And I'm sure that the undersheriff will have some comments in a moment as well but for right now we'll go ahead and have Mr. Allen read the resolution first.
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Madam Chair, members of the Board. This is a resolution of commendation for Custody Deputy Special Duty Tracey Joanne Martinez on her retirement from the Sheriff's Office. Whereas, Tracey Joanne Martinez retired from county service on Sunday March 31, 2012 having faithfully served the Sheriff's Office for over 22 years during which she served as a Sheriff's Custody Deputy Special Duty. And whereas Tracy Joanne Martinez started her career with the County of Santa Barbara on December 4, 1989 as a sheriff's correctional officer.
In 1997 she was promoted to the classification of Correctional Officer Special Duty. During her 22 years of service she worked in various capacities most notably as a custody deputy special duty with the Sheriff's Office Classification Unit and the Jail K-9 Program. And whereas, Tracy throughout her career provided the employees of the Sheriff's Office positive leadership and professionalism allowing her to assist in the development of the first jail canine program in the custody operations and became the first jail canine custody deputy. And whereas, Tracy provided the citizens of Santa Barbara County professionalism and insightful correctional service while dedicating her life for the pursuit of peace and justice.
And whereas Tracy Joanne Martinez's knowledge, skills and experience contributed greatly to the overall professionalism and the guiding principles to the Santa Barbara Sheriff's Office as well as the objectives of the County of Santa Barbara. Now therefore it is hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors commends Tracy Joanne Martinez for her faithful and distinguished service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County and congratulates her upon her retirement and wishes her continued good health and many years of happiness. Passed and adopted today.
Thank you Madam Chair, members of the Board. On behalf of Sheriff Brown who couldn't be here today it really truly is my honor to be here to recognize the career of Tracy Martinez. You know working in a jail environment is difficult enough but Tracy has gone above and beyond during her career of what she's done in the jail She was actually our first ever custody deputy to initiate the jail canine program for drug detection. She had our first dog inside the custody environment, Adam who is a Westfalen Terrier from Germany. He was actually the first breed, dog of his breed from Germany to be in the United States and he was part of our pilot project and Tracy did a great job I just wanted to say thank you for everything. I have to say at 20 years old my mom saw an ad in the newspaper to be in an exciting and different environment, and it was the jail.
Definitely exciting and different. And I applied, and I had no idea at the time that that was what I was going to make my career. I have to say when I was young, I thought a mounted unit or a canine would be really neat. We weren't going to get a horse in the jail so I was lucky enough to have the dog in the jail. That was one of the highlights of my career. He's actually still alive.
Definitely an honor to be involved in the canine program and be involved in the classification unit we deal with. Dealing with all of the inmates and all of the handling of the major crimes and what we do with the custody of them while they're, or where we house them while they're in jail. And it just, I realize it's a different world for people that aren't in jail or don't deal with jail but it is definitely an exciting environment so thank you.
Thank you so much.
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right, and next we're going to turn to Supervisor Gray.
Thank you. Denise Beach would come forward? I'm really deeply honored to be able to present this resolution to Denise. I think you are incredibly special, talented well-adjusted people if you can work in custody because it's almost like being locked up yourself. And Denise has done this for 20 years and when Tracy talked about how different a world it is, I mean she got that right because it's, it is different. So congratulations to you, 20 years and a whole lot more, look how young she is my gosh! They started out early in the jail I guess so congratulations and Mr. Allen if you would read the resolution?
Madam Chair, Members of the Board. This is a resolution of commendation for Custody Deputy Denise Suzanne Beach upon her retirement from the Sheriff's Office. Whereas, Denise Suzanne Beach retired from county service on Sunday August 19th 2012 having faithfully served the Sheriff's Office for a period of 20 years during which she served as the Sheriff's Custody Deputy And whereas, Denise Suzanne Beach started her career with the County of Santa Barbara on October 28th 1991 as a Sheriff's Correctional Officer.
And whereas, Denise during her 20 years of service has worked in various capacities most notably as a Corrections Officer Special Duty with the Sheriff's Office Branch Jails Division, La Mirada Women's Facility where she provided leadership and supervision. And whereas, Denise provided the citizens of Santa Barbara County extraordinary professionalism and insightful correctional service while dedicating her life to the pursuit of peace and justice.
Denise's skills, experience contributed greatly to the overall professionalism and the guiding principles of the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office as well as the objectives of the County of Santa Barbara. Now therefore it is ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors commends Denise Suzanne Beach for her faithful and distinguished service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County and congratulates her on her retirement and wishes her and her family continued good health and many years of happiness passed and adopted today.
Again, Madam Chair and members of the board it's again my honor to be here. And this truly is a family affair today with Denise and her family. You know after 22 years it truly is a difficult and challenging environment. And Denise has done such a great job with her career at the Sheriff's Office. A lot of different assignments and done each one in exemplary manner.
She does have like I said a family affair here we have Deputy Travis Anthony Dr. Robert Anthony and Denise and her four month old little deputy Robbie who we're keeping an eye on, I think he'll make it through his background right now and we'll hire him on as soon as we can but it's really an honor to commemorate Denise's career here and Denise you want to say a few words please?
I just want to say thank you very much. I never thought that I would be retiring at 43, however, I have a really good reason not to be in jail anymore so all I can say is thank you very much and it's time for me to go home and be a mommy.
Thank you. Sometimes we ask what people are going to do in retirement but I don't think we need to ask this time.
I think he'll keep you busy.
Wonderful, thank you so much. Okay we're going to go ahead and turn to A14 which is also a there's going to be something presented there as well Mr. Allen when you're ready go ahead and read A14 into the record
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Madam Chair members of the board item A14 is from general services I request that the board consider recommendations regarding the acceptance of a gift for the Santa Barbara Courthouse Clock Room. This is located in the First District.
Okay, Supervisor Carpajal and CEO Waller if you want to take point on this?
CEO Waller why don't you take it from here
Not often does a CEO get to participate in good news stories, so I very much appreciate that opportunity. As I know all of you are aware what the actual topic is today is a very significant donation from the Legacy Foundation to help with the clock tower and just want to make note even though these individuals didn't make it directly to us They certainly have a lot to be thanked for.
Dr. David Bozzano and his wife Faye, and Dick and Mary Ann Scull actually were major contributors to this particular project. There's someone else that I'd like to recognize that gave to us in ways of his time. And I'm particularly pleased because this individual is a retired engineer. And as you all know, I'm also an engineer. And can tell you from personal experience the fascination that engineers have with moving parts and particularly with clocks. So, Mostyn if you could join me up here I'd like to read just a little bit of information about Mostyn Gale. As I mentioned he's a recently retired system engineer from Raytheon in Goleta He's also a long-standing member of the National Association of Watch and Clock Collectors, the Ventura Chapter.
And he is chair of their annual conference to be held at Cal Tech next year. Lawson has had an interest in clocks for decades. Upon discovering the Santa Barbara Courthouse clock, he asked general services if they would mind if he volunteered his time to help the maintenance staff in caring for the clock. And many of you may recall, in those days the clock was in a great deal of disrepair and wasn't functioning very well. So needless to say, Mostyn was granted that access to the 80-year old Seth Thomas Tower Clock in 2007 and he began immediately spending most of his Saturdays there investigating the clock, documenting its condition, and then cleaning and oiling the mechanical devices.
After several years of this, we started getting recognition from many of the visitors to the clock because they noticed it was getting more accurate and you could actually depend upon it to tell the time. And then in 2010, he became the lead of the clock restoration component at The Clock Project. He also plans to create a maintenance guide for use by county maintenance so that we can continue his efforts into the future and just have something very small to give to Mostyn but I think it's really particularly a nice little gift and what we have for you here is huge heavy crystal that has a historic court clock house tower. So I hope that you'll take this for our very, very heartfelt appreciation for all your efforts, Modston.
Well, it's quite a surprise and a pleasure. I'm pleased to be able to represent the National Association of Watch and Clock Collectors and to be able to help preserve this historic piece of machinery for both Santa Barbara and for America. It is quite a unique piece of machinery and it serves the The city and the county, and all of America really in being able to keep that clock functioning well. So thank you very much. And it's one more thing, one more reason for people to come to Santa Barbara.
Supervisor Carball, did you want to say anything about this particular
item? You know I think this is symbolic of Santa Barbarans in general. Everybody's so generous we have so many wonderful treasures here from the courthouse, the mission, the zoo all our various arts buildings museums children's museum to come And everybody is just so generous with their time, as most and has been with his. As the donor families Dr. David Bisnow and his wife Faye Dick and Mary Ann Shaw obviously gave of their tale to really help restore this clock.
I see Mr. Uli here, he was up here. I know we didn't give him a chance to say much but I'd like to ask him to come up because he represents both, he's the county architect but he also represents the Courthouse Legacy Foundation and they are the financial conduit and non-profit that partners with county government and the public at large in raising funds to do these types of projects in our national historic courthouse.
And maybe if you could just say a few words, Mr. Lee.
Thank you Supervisors. The Courthouse Legacy Foundation to date has raised well over a million dollars spent specifically on the Sun River Courthouse from ceilings, to flagpoles, to the fountain, to the clock room. But really it is a fantastic example of what's happening across the county where we have volunteerism and citizens donating of their resources from every district. Really, it's just a fantastic experience to be involved in and I'm honored to have a small role in helping facilitate that kind of work. The clock in particular is one of very few remaining fully functional mechanical tower clocks in the United States.
This happens to be the only tower clock in the United States with 100% ADA accessibility for those with mobility issues. It's the only one in the country with its own elevator stop. Anyone who has a mobility issue can get inside the clock and be marveled at its mechanical movement It truly is mesmerizing and I think some have had tours, and if you haven't seen it yet go see that clock because it's absolutely amazing. And of course Mostyn and his crew of eight or nine folks over a year took that clock apart gear by gear, bolt by bolt and cleaned it with toothbrushes and put it all back together again. And Dr. Bisno once told me he says you know what when I was a kid my dad decided to work on the toaster because it didn't work and he took the toaster apart and it never cooked another piece of toast so when the clock came apart he was wondering if the clock guys were actually going to get the clock back together for it to work and it works absolutely fantastically so thank you very much
Thank you, Mr. Uli. We know that you have spent an awful lot of time here as the liaison between the county and the Legacy Foundation, and it is truly another wonderful example of a labor of love for so many people and for the benefit of so many people. Supervisor Wolf, I think you wanted to make a comment?
I just wanted to make a quick comment and a note of appreciation to the Legacy Foundation and our county staff. Last week, I went on a rather mundane, I would say tour of P&D. Sorry, P&E folks. I went to your building and it was interesting but in talking to Patty he asked me if I wanted to go see the clock tower And you know, it's something that was always on my mind. So we arranged a little clock tower tour and I will say that it just absolutely blew me away.
The work that you folks did by getting that clock back to the state that it's in right now but not just the clock everything surrounding it, the murals and the historical significance of where we have come in the county and the bells, and the technology, and the roof that depicts the constellations. Every little thing was done so well and so beautifully. It really is a treasure in our community and it's right across the street. Every time now that I hear the bells, I think of that beautiful room and all of the work that you've done. Thank you very much.
Madam Chair, in conclusion I will just say when the Legacy Foundation raises half the money for another project that my colleagues keep in mind what a wonderful county treasure this is.
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And I would just like to echo the comments from Supervisor Carbajal and Supervisor Wolf. If you haven't had an opportunity to go see it, make time to go see it when you can because it really is just one more big jewel in what is already a crown of jewels that we have there at the courthouse. All right. We have a couple more items on the A agenda. Mr. Allen,
Madam Chair we have requests to speak on items 815 and 817. Item 815 is from General Services the request of the board consider recommendations regarding the purchase of Caltrans excess land at Burton Mesa Harris Road this is in the third district and we're going to go to Santa Maria for Mr. Caldwell
Madam Chair, members of the board. I'm Andy Caldwell representing CoLab. We have some concerns about this as you know we don't take it lightly when land is permanently taken off the tax rolls including in the San Ynez Valley which came up a few weeks ago and this particular piece of land is 14.1 acres at the corner of Burton Mesa Boulevard and Harris Grade Road and that is a crossroad You know, over the years we've been concerned that Long Polk would not grow.
in the valley floor because it would take up ag land. We've wanted them to head toward the hills, so to speak. In particular this area of the hills because there's so much infrastructure there and for instance you have a police or sheriff and fire substation right across the street. So we looked at this intersection and said that look, this could be kind of a major intersection between the village And some of the other areas there, and of course Harris Grade Road.
We understand there's a dump in the neighborhood, a county dump, an old county dump. And your staff report indicates that it would be better for you to have a quote unquote buffer. Well that leads us to the question does the county have a dump on its hand that it needs to clean up? They would have a different standard if it was a private sector dump or a city dump, and this was affecting nearby property. But the bottom line here is you're buying property for $41,000.
Taxes will be paid in the future whereas there's somebody put a mini mart there or gas station or something else in the future should that area develop. This could be 14 acres of in essence downtown property As you know, PXP at one time had a project to build 800 homes just up the road from this property. So we would like you to have a fuller explanation of if you need a buffer, why do you need a buffer? And whether or not... If you don't need the buffer then why not allow somebody in the private sector to buy this property and perhaps use it in the future?
Thank you.
Thank you Mr. Caldwell. I think we're going to turn, actually we had somebody else, another group that we wanted to recognize so I'm going to turn to Supervisor Carbajal.
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Thank you Madam Chair. We got news of this last week and it was rather short notice so we were unable to do a formal resolution so we decided to do this during public comment. We are extremely lucky to have Mr. Bill Pintard here, the coach of the Santa Barbara Foresters which is a college summer baseball team in our area. They won back-to-back championships first time since 1992 Four-time championships since 2006 and they also are sponsors of the Hugs for Cubs program.
And God, what a... you guys just keep winning. Mr. Princehart I'll turn it over to you.
Well first of all it's kind of appropriate that we're here today when they honor Steve Cushman who Actually pitched for the Dodgers back in the day and pitched for UCSB. I don't know if you guys know that. And then you honored Pony Baseball, and in Pony baseball we've had three players that have gone through Pony that have played for the Forresters that played in the major leagues from Dylan Axelrod to Ryan Spilborks to Virgil Vasquez And we are just very, very proud to have represented Santa Barbara in the National Baseball Congress World Series. This World Series has been going on since 19...
for 78 years, since 1933 I believe. In fact, Satchel Paige pitched in it and we're just really proud of what's gone on. We were the first team since 92 as you mentioned to win back-to-back I Also our Hugs for Cubs program, which is a support program for childhood cancer survivors. We make our annual visit to Via Christi Hospital and so we get a lot of support from Wichita. It's very rare that people in Wichita, Kansas find an alliance with people from California. See, they think we're all fruits and nuts out here in California but we've been able to show them that besides being good baseball players, we do care about those that are less fortunate so we're very proud I'm going to leave this trophy with you guys today for the rest of the day because you guys are champions The Board of Supervisors, I respect what you do for our community.
We have a wonderful community and you guys help preserve it. So I'm just honored to be a Santa Barbaran. I'm honored that we could represent our community and thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you. We'll make sure we take care of that. If you have any questions... I do want to say one thing. I don't think people know, but there have been over 38 players that have played in Santa Barbara that are playing in the big leagues. So the future stars of Tomorrow comes through this town. Okay, thank you very much.
Thank you. That's wonderful Thank you for sharing that wonderful award with us for just a few hours Mr. Allen I think we're almost done with the administrative agenda
Madam Chair yes, we have one final speaker on the administrative agenda dr. Robert Johns on item a 17 Dr. Johns and this item is from planning and development The request that the board consider recommendations regarding the coastal resource enhancement fund five-year assessment
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Once again this CREF fund is being used illegally, fraudulently and you Carbohol are responsible. You shook your finger. Dr.
John.
Yes?
You need to speak to the item.
I'm speaking to the item. You're collecting fees for the CREF fund. You're trying to get approval. I want complete understanding of this fund. Nobody understands where this money goes, I want complete disclosure of these correct funds. Coming up is an item on the D agenda that's a perfect example Misuse of CREF funds. Other non-profit organizations in this town deserve CREF funds, Carbajal!
Okay Dr. Johns, you speak to the whole board.
And that's what I'm talking to. Now the corruption in this fund is illustrated by the item coming up this afternoon. You have an opportunity
to speak on that item, Dr. Jones you need to speak to this item now.
Well this item here is a pre Runner, a forerunner. This money coming up in 2012-2013 is being misappropriated by this county and I'm saying this money should go to other nonprofits not just to the CREF fund to environmentalists Thank you
All right. And that concludes the administrative agenda. Okay, I'll have a motion on the balance of the administrative agenda. Motion? Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. All right. Do we have how many speakers for public comment?
We just have one request to speak.
Okay. Let's hear from public comment and then the board is going to take a 10 minute break before we begin our
D agenda. Dr. Johns?
The public needs to see your tax return, Carvajal.
Okay Dr.
Jones
you speak to all of us and this is general public comment so
you address it
to all of us.
Well I think that this county council here is in conflict with Mr. Carvajal. Mr. Carvajals wife is employed by the
county. No actually she's not Dr. Jones.
That's a lie. And this, this county council knows that's a lie. And Mr. Carbajal knows it unless you fired her, Carbajal. Okay but we need to see your testimony. Madam Chair? Yes, Councilor. Here comes the racist discrimination against me. Here you go. Go!
The speaker has been warned to stay on topic and to speak civilly. If he fails to do so my advice would be that he loses his opportunity to speak on this item.
Now, the First District Supervisor has hired a corrupt representative from CAPS. That's right, Barbara. Don't look at your eyes. You know who you are. Okay. You
address all the board. This is your last warning Dr.
Jones. Board members? Your First District Supervisor has hired a corrupt Ms. CAPS representative. Where'd you get the money from? You're supposed to be a budget here. You could have hired two Mexican-American male or females. Why did you hire that particular person? We've had budget cuts, where'd you get the money from? We've had budget cuts. Here in this county, and you're hiring someone who is already corrupt in the cap.
Dr. John, that's it. That's your last warning. Madam
Chair, I usually don't speak up because the speaker really doesn't make sense in a lot of what he says. I don't even want to hear it. You're done. But when, and I don't mind as an elected official if he calls me any names he wants. But my staff are not elected officials. And when he starts defaming them, I think it's important that we put a stop to that.
Thank you. Board will take a ten minute break. We'll come back with our departmental agenda item number one. ¶.
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¶. Back into order and session. We're going to take up our departmental agenda item number one. Mr. Allen, would you read that into the record please?
Madam Chair, members of the board, Item 1 comes to the board from the Auditor-Controller in the County Executive Office. It's a hearing to receive and follow per the provisions of Government Code Section 29126.2, the June 30, 2012 Financial Status Report for Fiscal Year 2011–12 showing the status of appropriations and financing for all departmental budgets adopted by the Board.
Good morning Mr. Geis and Ms. Hagram, thank you for being here today with us.
Madam Chair, members of the board. I'm just going to do a really quick little tiny overview and then Julie's going to do the bulk of the presentation and Chandra Tom and Theo and I are available to help filter your questions Just this year when you look at the county's financial statements of the results of operation You know in our board letter we talk about some things that have made the accounting and budgeting fairly complicated this year and that included You know, getting rid of the Santa Barbara County Redevelopment Agency that included the dissolution of the other six agencies were actually if you think about that dissolution we as a county have been contributing in our fire district. To the cities or the other redevelopment agencies where we've kind of as the county have been investing in capital and housing in those agencies.
A lot of people say oh you're getting all this money back well, it's just really a return of redevelopment and if you get into You know, other agencies around the state of California. Counties really were getting 100% pass-throughs in many of the other counties and they were actually getting funding for their redevelopment agency through the schools and that's really one of the efforts that the administration went to tackle up, get that money back to counties for public safety and then the basic things we do. A couple other things that made things complicated is 2011 public safety realignment. That's new money for low-level prisoners and then we also got our replacement funding when the federal ARRA dollars came in They gave it to the state.
The state reduced our allocations, gave us ARRA dollars when the ARRA funding went away. They actually gave us, you know, refunded what they used to fund through 2011 realignment. 1991 realignment is doing a little bit of economic recovery. We're hitting our base limits and we got growth in Prop 172. You know, the other thing that there's a debt refinancing transaction on the county's financial statements. We reified the 2001 debt and then we issued new debt and so those transactions when you're looking at the big picture they make the results kind of complicated and so from there I'll let Julie take over.
Thank you.
Good morning, Chair Farr and Supervisors. In light of all that complication I tried to break the information down into five different categories so this is how I'm going to go through it for you. As far as the economic and financial indicators overall in the economy we had 10 consecutive quarters of positive GDP growth and I'll have a chart on that for you in a minute to show you.
We're showing slow recovery in property tax And then a little bit of growth in sales tax and transient occupancy tax. So we're still very much in the midst of a recovery. Unemployment remains high, and I have a chart for you on that. And the real estate market is still struggling. So this is the GDP growth chart. So as you can see, this is the percentage increase from period to period. And we are seeing some slight increases overall On average since 1950 until now, the average increase has been 3.2%. So you know if we continue at this three percent increase level things will start looking much better.
Unemployment rate as you can see it's going down but it's still fairly high. You know we'd rather see that in the four or five percent range at least and governmental funds So this shows a huge increase or a huge variance between expenditures and revenues with expenditures being much higher than revenues. And as Bob mentioned, that's attributable to these unusual transactions we had this year with RDAs and the refinancing so I'll get into that in a little more detail on the next chart.
So when you're looking at this chart, look at the various columns first. So there's the general fund roads, public health, social services. So these are all the major funds in the county governmental funds. So if you look down to the line now that has the $18 million circled, that's really the line to focus on. So the general fund actually ended with a positive $18 million reduced by the RDA transactions below. But as you look across, you can see for example public health Ended with $4 million negative, ADMHS $5 million negative. As you go across though overall the county only ended with $2.4 million negative so although the chart looks like it's much more than that it's attributable to those debt transactions and the extraordinary RDA transactions but as far as operations it was only a negative 2.4 million.
So the governmental funds Revenues, just a little more detail here. Both the governmental fund revenues and tax revenues continue to increase and overall the revenue has increased by 1.9 million. Expenditures increased by 14 million and that's again attributable to those unusual transactions. And expenditures exceeded revenue by 20 million which is related to the refinancing of the debt in the RDA transactions.
Some of the big increases in cost, one of those is salary and benefit costs. And salary and benefit costs increased by 10 million. And those increases are mostly related to retirement cost increases, health insurance, constant overtime staffing and public safety since they have less positions they need to cover the staffing with overtime, and then unemployment insurance. And those cost increases were offset Salary decreases, there was an actual overall reduction in FTEs of 213 across all departments. And then negotiated salary concessions and also decreases in services and supplies expenditures.
On to the general fund. The general fund revenues exceeded expenditures as I mentioned by 18 million. Revenues increased by 19 million and expenditures increased by 0.9 million. The general fund total fund balance increased by 2.2 million and total fund balance at the end of the year equaled 85 million, and you can see that on the previous chart at the very bottom.
The year ended with an unassigned fund balance of 7.6 million so in the current fiscal year that we're in, end of June 30 2013, that's budgeted to be put into strategic reserve. And it's actually strategic reserve is budgeted at right now to end with about $30 million.
I'm sorry, so 30 million including the 7.6 million?
Yes. So additional general fund highlights. Restricted and committed fund balance. So this is basically where the additional 18.4 million went. Increases in public safety, Prop 172 of 2.3 million Public safety realignment, $2.8 million. P&D offsite mitigation, $1.2 million. $5.1 million set aside for the 12-13 operating plans. $1,200,000 set aside for facility maintenance, $100,000 for jail. $2,400,000 went into strategic reserve and program restoration, $204,000.
The offsetting decreases were $5 million of ADMHS settlements And the elections voting equipment fund balance was used by the Corker-Corder Assessor. The non-spendable fund balance decreased $16.8 million. So if you look at the next slide of the general fund, that's the $18 million revenues over expenditures that we showed you. So then I'm going to go into some departmental detail.
Unless anybody has any questions at this point.
Any questions from the board at this point?
Okay,
you're doing great keep on. Thanks.
General revenues there was a 3.5 million positive variance and this was due to unanticipated revenues from the dissolution of RDA's so we're hoping to see a little bit more of that and as we learn more about the dissolution of the RDA's will have a better idea how much revenue will be coming to the county The general county programs, there was a $1.7 million positive variance and that was attributable to transactions related to the settlement of the ADMHS liabilities and that came to your board a couple months ago.
Human resources ended with a 380,000 positive variance due to expenditure savings The sheriff ended with an $855,000 positive variance due mostly to salary savings. They have significant vacancies that were offset by the constant overtime staffing that I mentioned earlier. And then probation ended with a $403,000 positive variance due to the new state realignment program which they'll be spending in the next fiscal year and then other funds The Rhodes Fund ended with $2.2 million fund balance increase, with $37 million in expenditures for the fiscal year so that's a very healthy fund. The Public Health and Social Services funds, these are largely funded by federal and state programs representing 26% of total governmental expenditures Public Health ended up having to draw down their fund balance by about $4 million, and this was due to a reduction in their FQHC Medi-Cal revenues.
Partly in due to a new system that they put in place that caused some lags in their ability to bill for that. And Social Services increased fund balance by 1.7 million. The Workers' Compensation Self Insurance Fund Ended with a $7.9 million deficit. This was mostly due to, we had two actuarial reports that showed the old tail claims that were trying to resolve ended up a little bit worse and they're expected to end up a little bit worse than expected.
And then the costs for this fiscal year came in greater than revenue by about 2 1⁄2 million.
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Supervisor Carbajal.
Thank you, Madam Chair. CEO Waller at some point not necessarily today because I'm not sure it's the appropriate time but we should have a full discussion on that workers' compensation issue because we have an unexpected balloon of 10 million or more which sort of caught me off guard. I'm assuming the rest of my colleagues and others and I think it's really important to understand what is going on or when So not necessarily today, but at some point we need to have a discussion of that item.
Thank you.
OK. The Fire Protection District, which is the funding for the fire department in the general fund contributed $32 million for the general fund and their overall fund balance decreased by two million. Mental health services ended with a 3.5 million negative variance due to outstanding liabilities and the fund continues to have liabilities related to cost settlements and audits, and the staff there continues to work on figuring out what those are and making sure they have a clear idea of what those are.
The Mental Health Services Act Fund has a total fund balance of $10 million which was reduced by $8.4 million in the prior year. Okay I'm going to go into the conclusion Considering the slow economic recovery, we were still able to end the year with only a slight draw on overall governmental fund balance. The county has an underlying credit rating of SP plus one which shows that the rating agencies have confidence in the county and we're able to still issue debt at a lower interest rate which is good. The county has a conservative debt profile and is considering a future jail financing The county significantly increased the general fund cash position, and that allowed us to issue a TRAN for $20 million less than we did the year before.
There were significant changes in funding from the state and federal government related to realignment 2011 and 1991 which impacted public safety and the Public Health Social Services and ADMHS. Unemployment remains high and the real estate market is still struggling. We continue to make contributions to the Strategic Reserve. In this current fiscal year, end of June 30th 2013 we are budgeting to increase it by nine million dollars and so that's our buffer and our safety net in case something happens and you know the federal and state funding is there some pretty big unknowns there so this is important to have The county eliminated 213 FTEs. The dissolution of RDAs is returning funds to the county.
We ended 11-12 with only a minor draw on fund balance. Fiscal year 12-13 continues to be balanced, the budget is balanced with some draws on fund balance and the pension fund investment losses continue to cause significant increases in unfunded pension liabilities which relate to increases in salaries and benefit costs And as I mentioned, the state continues to have a structural deficit.
And it's really an unknown that could impact the county. Okay and if you have any questions?
Thank you.
And 4% is a pretty normal year and actually for the last 30 years before that we had 8% growth on average. And so when you really look what we suffered on our biggest tax source, we're still really not out of the woods on property tax and hopefully We start to see that recovery in the property tax sector. Two good consecutive years of growth in retail sales, which is driven by consumer spending and transient occupancy tax. So those are the good things that are happening.
The one real tricky thing here I just want to remind you is, in the general fund we got rid of an unspendable fund balance. And that was the accounts receivable from the redevelopment agency. And then we increased fund balance by $18 million, and that's called spendable fund balance. That was a really healthy result from all the things that happened at the state and the employee concessions.
If we could do that every year, we'd have a North County Jail. But that was a pretty unusual occurrence but it was really a good result. So with that, I'll take questions.
Thank you.
Supervisor Wolk? Thank you, Madam Chair. You know it was good to see the fund balance for social services because I think in the last few years they've been kind of depleting their fund balance. What do you attribute to that reversal where there, I think it was 1.3 million that they now have
I would say one of the things that happening with the funds is the 1991 realignment. Because sales tax growth, they've filled all the base. And then I think you'll see something else positive happen that probably in October and November they'll actually distribute growth but it's really unclear who they will distribute that growth to. In past years social services seem to get a priority for that growth but I'm not sure what the growth formulas are when sales tax performs above the base.
Does that make any
sense? I'm not totally clear on your answer.
Yeah, so let me use Prop 172 as an example. When Prop 172 grows and it grew 9 1⁄2% this year the state distributes the whole amount to us. And so we'll see a 9 1⁄2 percent growth by that half-cent sales tax but in the 1991 realignment accounts They do something to say, when sales tax grows we'll give you up to your base allocation and then we're going to take that growth on a statewide basis and we're going to distribute it into the counties that need growth. And so we're not sure what that formula is or what that growth allocation will be for Santa Barbara County and it usually doesn't happen until October or November.
So is it, so then there is a correlation then to sales tax?
There is. The 1991 realignment is a combination of a half-cent statewide sales tax that funds all the counties and motor vehicle taxes. And it just so happens motor vehicle taxes underperformed their base. That was the only one that didn't get up to base. And so that gets a little bit complicated but that's due to lack of car sales.
Okay thank you. Thank you
Madam Chair. Mr. Geis, I just wanted to thank you for this report. I thought it was outstanding and it really helped me because a lot of my constituents are reading in the papers about cities going bankrupt and I've had more than my fair share of people calling and wanting to know what kind of financial situation, what's our status? And the ratings that we have from Moody's and Standard & Poor's was very helpful. Can you just give me a little bit as somewhat of still a new supervisor, what drives those? What do I need to avoid in order to see those ratings go down?
You can, we're going to publish our financial highlights soon and we actually have some good criteria. There's about 10 on the back page and they're, we call them the Fitch Rating Criteria. And you can see the policies that we have in place like, you know, we don't have huge amounts of excessive debt. You know, we try and match our a one-time funding with one time cost, although it's difficult to do that right now. You maintain a strategic reserve that's fairly strong.
Those are the kinds of policies that really give you that highest credit rating in the state. We do things like you have a timely budget. You're doing timely financial statements. We're the fastest county in California and And we think that producing a financial statement on time and early is a strong indicator. We start measuring where we are on a monthly projection report right out of the gate, doing formal quarterly reviews. So all those things combine to give you that strong credit rating.
And if I could add just a couple, one of the things that Mr. Geis mentioned was the quarterly reviews that we do. I think that was very positive when we met with the rating agencies that we looked department by department at a minimum on a quarterly basis. I think one of the other things they were particularly impressed with is our fiscal outlook report, where we really are looking two to five years out in the future and crafting strategies right now to be able to address what we know are going to be our issues in five years. So I think those were a couple of other things that when we met with them they were particularly impressed with.
Madam Chair can I follow up? Yes Supervisor Levin. Thank you. So CEO Weller do they rate us annually or is it quarterly or how did they come up with their ratings?
Chairman Farr, Supervisor Lavinino. The rating usually happens when we're issuing some new debt. So every year we issue a tax and revenue anticipation note so every year they're rating us for our short-term TRAN rating and then if we refinance our long term debt they'll generally issue a rating or when you're doing your TRAN they'll update your long term rating.
Supervisor Carpenter?
Thank you, Madam Chair. You know it would be great to put together a list of sort of those areas that we're at the forefront on not just fiscal but other areas statewide I come across various supervisors and I'm always bragging about all the things we do and every once in awhile they throw out one or two things that they do better and it irks me that I don't have a bigger list so especially some of those supervisors from San Diego where Chandra's from I always run into him This is definitely a much more positive report.
But not to be a wet blanket, we obviously still based on what our revenue uptick will be. We'll determine what that 20 million projected figure we've been kicking around for next year will be. What our pension and salary costs are the jail, the operations 16-17 million ongoing and the mental health liabilities that were still not completely brought to a closure. So it's definitely a positive report Everything is looking rosier, and how rosier it gets will determine how we impact that $20 million sort of rough figure we've kicked out.
And we're still not done with all our concessions and discussions that we have with various groups as well in the years to come. So I'm not trying to be a wet blanket. I'm just trying to remind us that rosy is rosy but not good enough. Supervisor
Chairman Farr and Supervisor Carball, that's a good summary you just made. Those are all the things that worry me and we should be concerned with amongst all the positives.
I had a question about the strategic reserve. I realize more money in there is better but it seems like there was some kind of standard that we were working towards in the short term and I forget what that amount was
I believe the dollar figure is $28 million, and it
was in the hearings we presented that number as $31.2 million.
Okay, and we're now at $30 million?
Twenty-nine something, I think, Bob.
Pretty close. So being able to put this much larger amount of money than we anticipated has almost gotten us to where we have talked about trying to be. Other comments or questions from the board? All right, we'll turn to the public. Mr. Allen do we have any public speakers for this item?
We have one request to speak. We'll go to Santa Maria for Mr. Caldwell.
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Morning again, Mr. Caldwell.
Good morning Madam Chair, members of the Board. I'm Andy Caldwell representing COLAB. As you know, I know that each one of your board members says they want more public participation it would help if When you have the time that you would allow staff or your board would respond to public participation. I brought up some issues on the admin calendar that were completely ignored, and it doesn't behoove people to come here if they're going to get ignored.
And this item is similar. I think Mr. Geist does a phenomenal job, but there's two things he didn't mention that I've been covering on my show quite extensively. One of them and again, I'd like him to explain this. One of them is Moody's is saying that they're going to start considering pension debt as a factor in credit rating. And I'd like to know how that is going to affect the county's bottom line? Secondly, the Government Accounting Standards Board is now going to require local government actually governments at all level to carry unfunded pension liability on their balance sheets. And we'd like to know what that means for whether that has an effect on the quote unquote concept of a balanced budget.
Second, another point is, you know, Salute Carball and the staff are talking about workers' compensation. It'd be interesting to know whether or not this board has opposed Jerry Brown's proposal to increase workers' compensation benefits when you're having a tough time paying your bills right now because the business community is having a tough time as well and you as an employer Should be opposing that because again, it's hard to be doing business right now under the current regulations affecting that. The last item is your board years ago had a blue ribbon budget task force.
Supervisor Carbajal was instrumental in pushing that thing forward. That report had an extensive section on what you can do for revenue enhancement. One of them had to do with perhaps creating village clusters or new villages throughout the county, one of them had to do with onshore oil. You heard a presentation just a week ago about how much money is available vis-a-vis onshore oil.
We can't ever recall the board doing much of anything on revenue enhancement You're 90% dependent upon property tax dollars, 90%. And yet we've seen very little streamlining in P&D and we've seen very little activity towards really eliminating some of the unnecessary red tape. Standing in the way of people being able to invest, create new jobs and revenue tax revenue in this region. So we would like you to if you could have Mr. Geis talk about the GASAB's new rules And what Moody's is proposing along with the other items. Thank you.
Thank you Mr. Allen any other public speakers? This
is our final speaker.
Okay Supervisor Lavinino
Madam Chair, Mr. Geis are you comfortable with addressing the pension? I mean that is something that interests me on that level and how we Madam Chair
and Supervisor Lavinino, I think to enhance this discussion when we bring you the county's financial statements maybe we'll put a 15 minute item on the agenda. And we can describe to you there's another set of financial statements that overlay these government financial statements. These are called fund financial statements but there's also an overreaching financial statement that measures net assets And it's entity-wide. It takes into account the assets of the county, the liabilities of the county in a much broader way. It's a little bit difficult to understand but what the GASB is going to have us do is they're going to have us bring the pension debt back into those entity-wide financial statements so that the liability that we have, I don't know what it is today, 800 million, is going to get posted on those statement of net assets.
It's not going to get posted on the government wide financial statements and so that will make a big difference and you probably will see that our unrestricted net assets on our financial statements will go negative Now, Mr. Caldwell says well how does that affect the balanced budget? The balanced budget piece comes ultimately what is the retirement rate and that's rates based on normal cost plus the amount you need to pay off your unfunded liability and amortize that so you know that's another chart we'll want to look at it sometimes as the 08 and 09 investment losses exit the retirement system The chart shows that the rate will eventually peak, and we're not at the peak yet. And then it should systematically go down over a period of time.
That peak is going to be difficult. It's going to be another budget challenge especially next year because as Supervisor Carbajal pointed out both the retirement rate increase and the workers' comp rate increase are specifically going to affect public safety. They're get the lion's share of these increases so it will be a challenging year to budget those, to balance those public safety budgets Thank you. Did that make sense? And we could spend a little more time, I'd like to spend a little bit more time with you on the entity-wide financial statements. We generally don't do that but for 15 minutes we could probably do a good job.
And Mr. Geist, that's where we add up everything the county owns, every building, every piece of property, every capital asset, everything else on one side and then all the liabilities including the pension liability that we're just talking about.
That's exactly true, Supervisor Farr. And what makes it difficult is you're carrying your assets at book value, I mean not at market value and so measuring that when we were writing the financial statements yesterday, you go man that's a difficult concept and when you get the results You know, it's pretty interesting from an accounting point of view. But it's a very subjective measurement.
Supervisor Cardinal?
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It would be great to get the CEO of the Retirement Board to come and present to us an outline of where we're at with that actuarial that they are attempting to do or are doing, and what the timelines are because we this coming budget cycle are going to have to address that issue one way or another. And you know, we were supposed to or are supposed to go through a lower assumption of return And it's sort of been put on abeyance until this so-called actuarial gives us feedback. And I think we need to kind of factor that in as to how we proceed with our financials in ongoing months and next year. So, I'm hoping we can get a report from them actually a public report here so that the public can have a better understanding, we can have a better understanding And then again, so that we can factor that in into our thinking as we move forward with our liabilities.
While we don't have to allocate funds assuming that actuarial delays are tangible ability to factor it into our financials, we still may want to create an escrow account In case it reflects what we initially thought it would. I'm wondering if maybe Mr. Geiser, CEO of Waller can address that?
Ms. Waller? Chairwoman, Supervisor, as a matter of fact I have spoken with the CEO of SBCS and he is very interested in doing such a presentation. I think that he would like to get some additional information from his actuarial and they're anticipating that in the very near future so I'll work with him and our long range calendar and find a time that we can get him on and give The information that you're speaking to.
Supervisor Wood?
Well,
thank you CEO Waller I would concur Mr. Emilio would be very happy to come to this board and give a presentation. I also think it's important that we hear from him because there is still a lot of rhetoric out there about financial liabilities unfunded liabilities and I think it's important for Our county to know, and I know Supervisor Gray was intimately involved in the retirement board what our assets are now.
Certainly we've done a lot better recently as has everyone but we have to continue to be prudent and so I think that type of presentation would be very beneficial. Thank you.
Madam Chair and members of the board, two important steps that I think the Retirement Board will do this year is they'll update their actuarial valuation which will give us a new rate based on the 7.75 and then they're going to start an actuarial investigation which is a study of the experience over the next three years in that study they set a lot of you know are they going to change the interest assumption rate and what will that do? And that's a pretty big deal for the retirement board to go through that process. So those are the two of the next big steps they'll go through.
Okay, I think we've come to the end of this item Supervisor Carbajal. You know, I would
be remiss if I didn't just say we are so fortunate to have the financial team that we have in place from our CEO's office and our auditor's office. I mean this it just it feels good getting good information and knowing that you guys are competent and able And it just, it makes our lives as decision makers a lot easier. So I just want to commend you for presenting the data in a way that the public and we understand it and just your competency. I really appreciate
it. Chairman Farr and Supervisor Carbajal, I'd just like to thank my staff because while the budget gets approved, we really go to work. And, you know, we did get the budget loaded and we got it loaded timely. And, you know, we're getting the financial statements out. Our draft was supposed to go out yesterday but it'll go out tomorrow to our outside audit firm who are basically done with their work. And so those things are all really positive and I appreciate my staff. They work really hard.
I'm kind of feeling it today because we've lost three senior staff to other county departments, and so we need to go out to the recruitment trail and reload the gun. We do have a panel hiring new talent, so we're doing that in the next couple of days. Thank you.
I just was thinking about this as you were talking about the RDA issue and how much time your staff, you and your staff have put into this and certainly the CEO's office going to these Successor agency meetings, and it's just been an incredible task And I think you all have done a very good job on behalf of the county so I also want to thank you for that. I want to thank you Miss Hagen for your presentation and your work in coming to my office on different occasions and going through some of these things, and I really appreciate your insight, your intelligence.
Your whole staff has done an amazing job. And I have to say too that as you said we're not out of the woods yet but we couldn't be where we are right now without also the cooperation and work of all of our employee groups. who have really, who have helped us to get to this point. So we're all working together and I think we're finally starting to see some positives and like I said before too, we need to be cautious but things are looking a little bit better.
Madam Chair, one final comment. Everybody that's working on the RDAs knows we've got another big year ahead of us and so it's not over and it's moving fast and they're changing the rules and the legislation is complex but you know we'll get through it
Yes excellent, excellent work and you know particularly because of the dissolution of RDA on top of everything else that you and your staff do. So thank you again so much for what you did today for us with this wonderful presentation and what you do every day. And with that I'll let you go. Supervisor Farr one final comment. Okay this is your final final.
Thinking of RDA, if you get a chance to go drive the Embarcadero Loop and see the accomplishments for the projects that we envisioned awhile back. The Paradise Ivy, the loop and the icon. There's also another housing project that Ed St. George is doing. Very impressive, very much changed the landscaping down there and kind of fun from an accountant to go see a project that really sticks on the ground. And they're very nice and have changed the downtown.
Mr. Geis, you've spent a lot of personal time and energy on that, and I really appreciate that. It was very, very helpful. All right. Motion to receive and file? Motion? Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. We're going to move right into our next Departmental agenda item number two. Staff will come forward for that and Mr. Allen if you would read that into the record please.
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Madam Chair, members of the board, Item 2 is from Public Health. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Santa Barbara County Code violations at 650 Russell Way. This is in the second district.
Good morning Ms. McIwitz.
Mr. Brumman? Good morning, Madam Chair and members of the Board. I'm Michelle Mikiewicz, Deputy Director of the Public Health Department and here with me is David Brumman. He's our supervisor at our Environmental Health Services Program. We're here to report to your board on a failed septic system that's in the unincorporated area of the county in the second district on Russell Way And to seek the adoption of a resolution that will allow environmental health to recover the costs of connecting the property to the public sewer and other related expenses necessary to remediate the public health problem.
So we have a brief presentation for you, and how do I get it up here? And I'll turn it over to David while we put that up on the screen.
David, go ahead and start and we can catch up with you.
Madam Chair, members of the Board, good morning. Again my name is David Brummond and I am a supervisor with Environmental Health Services. I supervise the section that we refer to as technical services which includes our on-site wastewater program. We are here today to explain a situation about a failing septic system in an unincorporated area of the county.
Normally such an issue It's pretty straightforward to resolve and take care of, and we would not normally bring it to the board. But as you will hear, the circumstances around this particular situation are unusual and unique, and consequently that is why we're here. I'll wait for the slides to catch up with me, but the property in question is located at 650 Russell Way. It's an unincorporated area of the county although it is immediately adjacent to the city of Santa Barbara, it is unincorporated.
Just a moment Mr. Brown and Supervisor Gray.
Before you get started because I don't live in the area, I don' understand why there are septic tanks in the city so I need a perspective of the, whoops it looks like he's being inundated with help. Time out while we help the technical guys.
So perhaps Barbara bringing that up David you could respond to the supervisor's question about why do we have septic tanks within the city?
It's
an unusual situation, but it does occur with fair degree of regularity around the South Coast. There are a number of little island areas or unincorporated areas that although they're surrounded by the city that have city services these little unincorporated areas for a variety of reasons they have public water but they do not have a public sewer so consequently their sewage is removed by use of septic systems
So I'm assuming they're really old. I mean, they've been there a long time or
not? Some of them are very old, yes. And they are somewhat problematic because these are normally we don't like to see septic systems grow on parcels of less than an acre and some of these are as small at a quarter acre or smaller. And it does represent a problem which is also the situation in this particular case.
Mr. Brumman, just to kind of orient us for where this is in the 2nd District, can you tell us what the major cross street is?
Yes I have a map here. It's on Russell Way which is about a mile south of, it's due west of La Cumbre about a mile south of Foothill between Foothill and State Street right off of La Cumbre and the sewer actually runs down La Cumbre but This particular area, this unincorporated area does not have sewer service at this time.
Okay Supervisor Wolff this is in your district. Yes thank you Madam Chair and just to To get to Supervisor Gray's question, it is an unusual area and there are pockets where there are homes that are on sewer. Being a member of LAFCO, there have been occasions when homeowners have come to LAFCO requesting annexation to the sewer district which is a good thing.
Sometimes there have been occasions where the sewers have failed and then they have moved onto the annexation This case is one where we need public health to intervene to get us to that point. But it is, I would agree, an unusual situation there.
So as a quick primer on onsite wastewater, the sewage goes to a septic tank which holds the solids and liquids. The liquids decant off and then go to a disposal field either leach lines or a seepage pit. And they are designed to discharge that liquid effluent subsurface. In this particular case the system has failed so badly that instead of The effluent going into the disposal field and percolating downward, the soil is blocked and the effluent is actually coming to the surface and pooling on the surface of the ground. And in some severe cases actually running off the property into the public street so people are driving through basically sewage.
This, of course, is a public health hazard. Discharge of sewage to the ground is not something we try actively to prohibit and it's also a violation of the statute, the State Health and Safety Code. This particular property because of its size, because of the poor soils, because of the amount of water being discharged, it's not possible to repair it. The property owner in the past has tried adding new disposal fields but they have rapidly failed And so at this point, the only solution that we could think of is collecting and directing a property owner to connect to the public sewer.
The property owner was in that process. They were actively working with Penfield & Smith, a local engineering firm, to get through the process to make the connection. And unfortunately, the home went into foreclosure and is now owned by the bank. The bank has not been very responsive. We have sent notices to them about the failed system, and they have actually never responded to any of those notices. So in the interim, to abate the public health hazard, the Public Health Department has been directing a local company to pump the septic tank on a monthly basis. So instead of acting as a septic system it's basically acting as a holding tank at this point and would fail if we didn't continue pumping.
So, and we have notified the property owner of the bank on a number of occasions about the failed system directing them to make repairs or connect to the sewer. But as of today, we have yet to hear anything from the property owner. With that particular situation, with the Hulson foreclosure with no way to repair the system we had a couple of options. One was to work with the building official to declare the house substandard housing in order to evacuate it and the second was to on our own make the effort to connect it to the sewer.
Declaring the house substandard housing was not a very palatable option for us and so it was decided that we would on our own pursue connecting the property to the public sewer. So, we have worked with the county council's office, tax assessor and auditor controller's office to lay out the process for doing this The Health and Safety Code allows that after giving the property owner reasonable notice if they fail to resolve the situation, connect to the sewer or repair the system. The county can connect the property to their sewer on our own and then collect our cost either through a lien on the property or through collecting it as part of the tax assessment.
It was decided that it would be better to pursue collecting the money as part of the tax assessment than to place a lien on the property. The cost incurred so far when we wrote this board letter back in middle of July, there has been approximately $7800 in out-of-pocket expenses and pumping the septic tank and staff time paying Penfield and Smith to finish off their study on what it would take to collect, to connect the property to the public sewer. And then there's an estimated approximately $54,000 in expenses to actually connect the property to the sewer that would be labor that would be the various pieces of equipment and all the fees for LAFCO, for the county, for Galea Sand.
And so at this point, the property owner has been appraised of this. The former property owner who is still occupying the building has been appraised that this is the course that we are taking and so far nobody's come forward with any objections to our plan at this point. So our recommendations are to receive this report, to consider adopting a resolution to recover the cost for connecting the property to the sewer through a property tax assessment and to also determine that these activities are exempt from CEQA review.
And that completes my presentation I'll be happy to answer any questions that the board has at this time
Thank you Mr. Brumman, CEO Waller. Madam Chair I just wanted to make a couple of points on this particular issue. Staff has been very very sensitive to the particular property owner and the financial issues that they're facing and they have tried many many months to resolve this issue without going to the next step that we're talking about today. I think it's very unfortunate that the bank, who is now the owner and which we believe does have the resources to correct this safety problem refuses to even acknowledge. And so I just want to make sure that your board understands the efforts that staff has taken to resolve this short of doing what we're proposing today.
And you know, I don't know if the board remembers but I had a similar situation in my district. Not even as bad as this but still a public health and safety issue they had to do with dying trees that actually were dead and falling down on the road and people worried about it same kind of situation property in foreclosure and couldn't get any action from anybody And we ended up taking the same action. So this is not something that hasn't happened before, but I just want to be clear CEO Waller what would happen then is if we move forward with this The money gets assessed to the property to the taxes at some point in time The bank has a buyer for the property and then that gets Uh, paid at that time as part of the sale of the property and we are reimbursed.
That's the trigger point for getting our money back?
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Madam Chair, members of the board. I think the answer to that is if the cost, the $7700 that are to be assessed now, that would go on the next regular property tax bill and it would be due at the time that that installment of property taxes is due and then my further understanding is as the costs occur and they would then be added onto subsequent property tax bills.
Council,
did you want to respond to this?
Yes. Thank you Madam Chair. As we understand it right now the bank is in negotiations with the current occupant and what we anticipate is that these costs if your board approves this resolution today would then be added To the negotiations with between the bank and the occupant. We've also had some communication that the homeowners insurance would be available to assist in paying these costs as well, so As much as the full assessment Would be on this year's property tax bill So it would be broken up Up to the amount that your board approves There seems to be other ways for the occupant to be able to finance this in a way that is not overbearing to them
Okay Any other comments or questions from the Board, Supervisor Carbajal?
Thank you. The bank owns it but we're still dealing with the occupant and I guess obviously all the legal thinking went into this but I'm just wondering why we wouldn't want to secure it with a lien Which would, and again not being an expert in this area, seem to make it more secure for us to get our resources back than the property tax. Unless it ends up being the same thing but I'm just trying to understand why we went this route instead of a lien? That would be very helpful for me to understand.
Which one is more secure for the county to be able to recoup its resources?
Thank you Madam Chair, Supervisor Carbajal. Our thought was by having the amount put on the property tax roll we are assured of getting payment within that tax year.
Instead of through a civil process?
Right, through a lien. Depending on where things would go in the negotiation, whether in fact the occupant could in fact get back into a place with a new mortgage. Whether there'd be a third party buyer that would come in. There were so many unknowns with the lien that it seemed that it could go on for several years. If we have this on the tax roll, the bank will have to pay the property taxes Yes, we have Mr. Caldwell in Santa Maria.
Madam Chair, members of the board. I'm Andy Caldwell representing CoLab. Reading this staff report we just couldn't help but ask why the recommendation wasn't to put in a new septic system? There's different ways to put them in depending upon the permeability of the soil And typically a septic system's maybe $15,000-$20,000 max versus this $46,000 to $54,000 bill.
The other question is you have to take a step back and we understand that in most small urban areas that septic systems may not work because the lots are too small but the flip side of that is Congregating or aggregating waste to a regional plant is not without its own problems. You know, the city of Santa Barbara just got recently challenged by Channel Keeper that's going to cost them millions. The fees for Laguna had been going up through the roof for years and you'd look at this and you have to ask yourself how does it cost $50,000 to hook into a pipe.
How does it cost that much? Now we know that part of the cost is because the cost to operate a sewer treatment plant in the state of California is astronomical. But the point here is to take a step back and say, look you know we're not going to just frown upon all septic systems as if they are an environmental degradation source continuously. As opposed to regional sewer because regional sewer has its own problems.
Whether it's outfall into the ocean, whether it's overloading our water basin with nitrates or salts or what have you. There is no perfect way to get rid of waste in our society that is win-win for everybody involved. In this particular case, you've got somebody on the verge of losing his house and instead of finding the lowest tech, lowest cost solution, septic. You're straddling him with another $50,000 bill either him or the bank holding the foreclosed property. Well the bottom line is banks are a lot of them are nearly upside down themselves because of these properties So to me, it just doesn't seem like you figured out the lowest cost solution since this property has been on septic for so long as to whether or not they could have just repaired it.
Thank you.
Thank you. Is that our only public speaker, Mr. Allen? Mr. Brumman do you want to respond to Mr. Caldwell's comments because it is my understanding that you said at the beginning that it couldn't be repaired but also I think the county now has policies and says if you have to put in something whole new that you have to have a certain minimum amount of property and this probably doesn't fit the bill anymore anyway.
Madam Chair, Board of Supervisors. Yes that is correct I as I mentioned at the beginning of my presentation the property is relatively small they have already tried to install new disposal fields in the past and again because of the size of a lot because of the quality of the soils because of the amount of effluent being directed to the system it is being overwhelmed and there's no way we could Determine another system that could go in there that would adequately treat the amount of effluent being generated by the residents.
With relation to the cost, this is not a gravity feed sewer because it's lower than the sewer main we have to install a lift station which is the primary reason it costs so much. If it was a direct gravity feed to the sewer, it would cost substantially less. The lift station alone is going to cost around about a third of the cost just for the pump and control panel in the alarm system.
As a basis of comparison, all the homes that are being connected to the Carp Sand District sewer system down on Sandpoint Road and Sandy Land. I checked with Craig Murray who is the general manager there and they're paying between $45,000 and $55,000 apiece to connect as well. Now there's some other costs in there it's not a direct comparison but it's in the ballpark when you have to build a lift station it's going to cost substantially more than it will do a gravity feed.
Thank you Supervisor Wolk. Yeah, thank you Madam Chair. Well I just want to thank Public Health. You folks have kept my office in the loop on this issue for many months. We also had constituent concerns about the effluent that was in the front of that house and flowing down the street. I think you tried to remediate it while you were working out some of these legal issues by Pumping out the sewer. But I, you know we are at this point where we have a serious public health issue. You have done, I think, a yeoman's job in trying to work out solutions but here we are at this point and I don't think any of us take this lightly and yet in my opinion I would agree with council and staff's opinion that this is what we need to do to take care of this matter So Madam Chair, with that I do want to thank all of our staff, our public health staff.
Mr. Drummond thank you and I'd like to move this item forward
per staff's
recommendation.
Okay we have a motion, we have a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. We'll go ahead and we'll move right into departmental agenda item number three from Public Works.
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Madam Chair, members of the board, item number three is from Public Works. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a 72-hour parking limit ordinance.
Good morning, Mr. McLaughlin. I'm sorry, CEO Weller?
Chair Farr, it's certainly up to the board but it appears that we have a little technical issue that Mr. Dryall thinks that if we had a five-minute break he could repair so we can either start the presentation without the IT piece of it or we can take a five minute break and hopefully we can bring that to you. Okay five minutes and we'll see if we get it up and running.
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I see 5th District. 5th District is in the house. I'm sure 1st District will be here shortly. Why don't we go ahead then and Mr. Allen, has this been, I can't remember was this read into the record already? Yes ma'am. Okay all right good morning Mr. Pearson. I understand you're going to be leading us off here
Yes, good morning Madam Chair and board members. I'm Eric Pearson. I am the Interim Director, Deputy Director of Public Works Transportation Section. Public Works is here to recommend a revision to the parking ordinance in Chapter 23 in the Santa Barbara County Code. The ordinance revision is to reduce the time allowed for vehicles parked on county roads From 120 hours to the revised time of 72 hours.
And this is to be consistent with other cities and counties, and also the state. Public Works has researched other counties on allowable time for parking on streets. All counties surrounding the county of Santa Barbara have 72-hour parking limits. San Luis Obispo, Kern County, Ventura County and we also looked at Los Angeles County all have 72 hour parking. That's the recommended revision.
Public Works also reviewed parking limits of all the cities within the County of Santa Barbara and all cities also have 72-hour parking limits. So we're a little inconsistent, we only have 120 hour limit right now and so that's the recommendation to make this consistent and go with 72 hours. I wanted to go over how enforcement works just so you have a background on this CHP, first of all, CHP receives a complaint. They are complaint driven. They don't go out looking for cars on the street so they have a bunch of other priorities but CHP is the agency that enforces this parking violation.
Second, CHB tags the vehicle which starts at 72 hour clock once they receive a complaint. After 72 hours CHP tickets the vehicle And tickets currently are $67.50, so that's $67 and 50 cents per car after 72 hours will receive a ticket. And then CHP may tow the vehicle after another 72 hours transpires. So they initially get a ticket after 72 hours. Another 72 hours goes by and then it could be towed.
Do they then get charged for their towing as well?
Yeah, a tow company would be called out. They would be charged for the tow plus any storage fees. Usually there's-
In addition to the ticket?
In addition to the ticket. So that can be fairly substantial. This is the final slide. The slide shows the recommended actions before your board exactly as it appears in the board letter. For the sake of time, I'll now read the recommended actions. And we wanted to thank you and if you have any questions. Got our traffic folks here
too. Okay so this is the first reading for this ordinance?
That's right. This is the first reading. The second reading would be on September 4th and then all ordinances require a 30-day waiting period after the second reading. So it would go in effect October 4th.
Well, the only correction that I would make is it's usually one of our board offices that gets the complaint first. Then we let the CHP know. Then you start in. Supervisor Wolf?
Thank you Madam Chair. So you're getting complaints too and I'm sure the other board offices are. This has been a big issue in my district and I just want to thank Mr. Pearson and all of the folks in Public Works who have been working on this And this, I don't believe is the answer to some of the issues of people that are parking their cars and kind of playing parking roulette.
But I believe that this is a huge step in a direction to alleviate the problems My constituents are facing with people just leaving their cars on the road. And as you point out, we are surrounded on jurisdictions in the unincorporated area of two cities where the limit is 72 hours. So it gives some folks from those jurisdictions some degree of an open door to maybe perhaps park their vehicles in the unincorporated area.
Whether or not that is actually occurring, I don't have proof of that, but the fact of the matter is that this has been an increasing issue. in the unincorporated area of the second district. I continue to get complaints from my constituents, they are, my office is in contact with CHP repeatedly. They've been very responsive and we hope to keep that relationship going but I do think once This is in my mind a consistency ordinance too, so that we're consistent with our neighbors. And it's been in my opinion long overdue and that's why I thank you for taking this initiative and your staff for taking this initiative doing the research preparing the resolution so that we can move on this.
Thank you Madam Chair.
Are there comments or questions from the board? I guess we have no public speakers for this item. So motion from Supervisor Carbajal to move all of staff's recommended actions. Second. Second from Supervisor Wuerl. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries, thank you very much. We will look forward to this being implemented after it goes through the proper procedure.
All right, then we'll go on to item number four also from Public Works.
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Madam Chair and members of the Board, Item 4 is from Public Works. To hear and consider recommendations regarding the Roadway Enhancement Partnership Program.
All right. Good morning, Mr. McAuliffe.
Yes, good morning Madam Chair and board members and as the clerk mentioned we're here today to file a report essentially on our roadway enhancement partnership program also known as our REP program. And we really wanted to accomplish two things today with this item. We want to kind of get the information out so the public knows how they can volunteer in their communities to improve the road right away And then we wanted to say a very big thank you to our volunteers who have been involved in this program for five or more years.
So our presentation today will cover the following areas, what is the Roadway Enhancement Partnership Program or REP? We'll touch on the history of the program, the typical projects that we find coming to us from volunteers in the community and then we'll transition into the heroes of the program, the volunteers and present some resolutions to those folks. So let's go ahead and get started.
The REP program allows volunteers to donate their time, material and funding for improvements within the county road right away. And it is 100% at their cost. The program itself is modeled after Adopt-a-Highway programs around the country. We are all familiar with the ones that are operated by Caltrans when we drive on CalTrans right-of-ways, we see those signs adopt the highway signs. Down on the bottom right hand side of the slide itself is the signs that we install in Santa Barbara County to let the traveling public know about the volunteer work that's taking place on that road Volunteers and my public works staff work together to essentially come up with projects that fall into three categories. We look at projects that improve safety of our transportation system, we look at projects that enhance the beauty and also the driving experience on our roadway system, and certainly we look at projects that promote a cleaner environment for the traveling public.
So a little history for your board on REP. It was created essentially to augment our partnership program, your board's familiar with that. We have a cost sharing agreement through our partnership program that helps us to maintain curb gutter and sidewalk mostly in our residential neighborhoods where it's been uplifted by inappropriate tree trees that were planted in those developments in the 1960s and the 1970s We augmented that program with RAP. We came to your board at that time on September 20th, 2005 and we had the program approved and we were off and running. And as your board knows, we are constantly challenged balancing our limited funding with our maintenance backlog. I recall this year our unfunded need has now gone over $250 million and it is projected to go as high as $500 million by 2020 so A program like this helps us take care of some of the priorities within our transportation infrastructure system where we don't have the resources to do that type of work.
So these are really two innovative programs that are helping us deliver what the communities want. Some of the typical REP projects that we have permitted since your board's approval in 2005. We've permitted projects to plant trees and also provide the ongoing maintenance of those trees, certainly litter pickup and debris removal along the shoulders of our roadways more in the rural areas than in the urbanized areas Graffiti removal is certainly a county-wide problem, primarily in the urban area. We've done a few drainage repair type projects with various adjacent property owners as well as landscaping projects, ongoing street sweeping programs as well and roadway surface treatment type partnerships.
And we'd really like to do a lot more roadway surface treatment partnerships if possible because that could help us overall with the maintenance. As a department, we're always available to talk to any individual or group about their ideas to assist us and help us with some of these projects. We've also put together a brochure that's been available for awhile and we do have information online about volunteer opportunities.
Mr. McAuliffe, if I could just stop you there for a moment. I know normally when a private property owner wants to do something in the public right-of-way that they need to go to you and get an encroachment permit but with this kind of partnership they don't need to do the permitting. They're in effect working with you to do something that's a project that is acceptable to you or how does that work?
How it works, Madam Chair, is we try to make it as simple as possible. The volunteers approach us and they work directly with our road maintenance staff. There is a permit involved and what we do is we bring the group in, we develop the project with them, we develop the limits. They are provided a permit which allows them to go into the right of way. But before we have them do that, we provide them with safety training vests all the equipment that they would potentially need to make sure that their volunteers are safe. And then we also offer the opportunity to put in a sign to show their volunteer effort along the roadway. A lot of volunteers don't want signs.
They want to just go out and do it and that's their gift to the community but that's available to them as well. And then we're available to help them provide advice And also we check in on them and make sure they're doing everything that they're supposed to do as far as the volunteer project is concerned. So,
so the permit could be either for a capital project like tree planting or just a maintenance project like the street sweeping or a combination?
Absolutely.
And that's just once that permit is given, is it given for certain period of time or is it just kind of ongoing until they come to you and say we don't want, we can't do this anymore?
It's ongoing, annual if you will. We would update it on an annual basis
but
our maintenance superintendents are in contact with the volunteer groups much more often than that. So let's now start to focus on the heroes, if you will, of our rep program. And Madam Chair and board members, in public works we can't say enough about how great our volunteers are in this program and that is why we want to recognize the dedicated volunteers with five or more years of service to our county transportation system.
And really, the resolutions that we want to present today are just a token of the county's appreciation to these individuals and groups who have dedicated their time and efforts to the betterment of the communities. We have seven groups in all that have been in the program over this timeframe. We have one group specifically represented here on the South Coast And we have five groups this morning represented up in Santa Maria. Madam Chair, with your approval we can present the South Coast Resolution first and then present the next five through the video technology available to us in this room.
Okay before we proceed to that does the Board have any questions or comments they want to make at this time? Supervisor Levine? Yes I do.
Thank you Madam Chair. I'm looking at the Elks Lodge here, and I believe that would be 5th District if that's Elks Lodge 1538 which I saw up here. So I don't know if their billing address is 4th District but I wanted to see 5th District represented up there so.
Madam Chair and Supervisor Lavenino, the lodge itself certainly is in the 5th district. I think the work they do for us may be on 4th District streets.
Yeah, well that's because I don' have a lot of 5th district county roads. You've got to do something about that.
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So you know we're a little competitive up here and there's no second district out there either, but I have to point out for anyone who is watching that when you first talked about the partnerships, the hardscape partnerships. My constituents in my district have worked really well with your office, Mr. McAulpin, in forming those partnerships and there's Patterson comes to mind, San Simeon Street where folks are working with you financially put up new trees, get those hardscapes repaired. So while we're not listed up there I think it's important that at least that I recognize that our second district folks are stepping up and putting up some money to fix some of these sidewalks and hardscapes that have really been in disrepair And I just want to, again, Eric and everyone else who's had these little meetings with my constituents in their driveways.
They're incredibly successful. I think there was a cupcake party to celebrate some of you guys because they're so grateful for all the work that you've done. It's an incredible partnership. So anyway, thank you.
And this list was selected because they have been doing this for at least five years?
Correct. Madam Chair, the program has been going for seven so this is groups that have been with us for five years or more and Supervisor Wolf is exactly right. The majority of our partnership customers come from the second district. So they've been impacted by unfortunately inappropriate street trees.
And now you know in the future, the next time you do this, that you need to have at least one from each district on this list. Okay.
Yes Madam Chair. So Madam Chair first group up on the south coast is the Montecito Association and the association joined the rep program on August 24th 2006. They removed graffiti for roadways, bike paths and bridges in the Montecito area of the 1st Supervisorial District and accepting the resolution today is Miss Victoria Green
Well thank you very much Madam Chair, Board Members, Scott, all the folks in Public Works. I'm very pleased to accept this on behalf of the Montecito Association and in particular Mindy Denson and her crew of volunteers. Mindy has been acting as our beautification chair for a number of years and together with some support that we received from some Montecito Boy Scouts we've been Heading out and cleaning up graffiti where we get reports, whether it's within or along public road right of way. Sometimes it's on the drainage channels and bridge abutments that kind of thing. Sometimes it's on a budding private property but we do try to do our part to help keep the community beautiful and give back what we can. And I also want to acknowledge It seems like the least that we can do because we do receive so much positive response and support from the various county departments that we work with.
And in particular, Public Works has always been supportive when we have issues that arise that relate to our county roads. So thank you very much for this.
Thank you and thank the association for the work that they do.
Madam Chair and Board Members, now turning to Santa Maria where we have John McGray our Road Maintenance Manager who will help us present the next five resolutions. First up will be the Nunez and Lopez families. These families joined the rep program on June 7, 2007. They removed litter and weeds along Brown Road in the Guadalupe area of the 3rd Supervisorial District. Accepting the resolution is Mr. Albert Nunez and Mr. Raymond Lopez.
Are they coming up? Thank you Mr. Nunez and Mr. Lopez and your families for all the work that you've done over the last number of years on this project, and we'd love to hear from you if you'd like to make any comments.
Volunteering, that's what it's about. I do have a cemetery that I take care of in the area, and I thought why not clean a road Next to it. So I contacted Kurt and it's all been history. I really enjoy volunteering on this and I'm sure my partner here, Mr. Lopez enjoys it too. Thank you.
Thank you. Did Mr. Lopez want to make any comments? No, not at this time.
Yep. Madam Chair, up next is...
Just to repeat what Mr. Nunez said, it's something that we enjoy doing. We spend time together out there and it's beautiful where we are at and so we just like to do it and it's for the county and for everybody that rides down the road and sees it you know it's a nice place to drive through.
Thank you so much and it is beautiful and your efforts really keep it beautiful
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I'm here next is Bug Noodle Livestock and Bug Noodle Livestock joined the REP program on March 16, 2006. They removed litter and weeds along Black Road in the Casamelia area of the 3rd Supervisorial District. And accepting the resolution this morning is Ms. Cheryl Bug Noodle.
Thank you very much.
Next is Elks Lodge, 1538. The Elks joined the REP program on July 5th 2006. They removed litter in the Orchard area of the 4th Supervisorial District along five roads, Bradley Road, Lakeview Road, Union Valley Parkway, Centennial Way and Elk's Frontage Road. Accepting the resolution this morning is Mr. John Allen. Thank you, Mr. Allen.
Thank you
all very much. Thank you all very much Dan, County Board of Supervisors for your backing and support I really want to thank Kurt for the work he's done and John McRae, and all the help that we get out of them. The supplies and the backing to help us get it going and keep the community beautiful. Thank you very much.
Next is the Lake Marie Homeowners Association. The association joined the REP program on June 20, 2006. They provide ongoing sweeping of the streets of the Lake Marie Estates Track in the Santa Maria area of the 4th Supervisorial District. Accepting the resolution is Mr. Bertolt Van Veen.
Berto is absent, couldn't make the meeting today. So for that resolution and the next one he was also accepting for that also so we can talk a little bit about Ortora.
Okay, thank you Joan. And the last one that we would have presented today was for the Old Town Orchid Revitalization Association or OTOR. OTOR joined the rep program on December 1st 2006 and installed benches and they plant and maintain trees along Clark Avenue in the old town orchid area of the 4th Supervisorial District
Supervisor Gray, since those are in your district and the recipient couldn't be here. Did you want to go ahead and make a comment?
Well it really is huge what they do. And the Lake Marie folks... It's just an example. Everyone got frustrated because the county couldn't do what they wanted done. And so it's from street sweeping that Lake Marie does and Old Town Orchid. They've brought beautiful, beautiful changes to the Orchid area So thank you for letting us do it, Scott. Because I think that's what it's all about. Mr. Nunez and Mr. Lopez, those guys have been doing this forever. And they just do it quietly. It's amazing. Thank you.
It is the way to do things. Volunteerism.
Madam Chair and Board Members, we have one other resolution but they're not in attendance. It was for the Firestone Curtis Wineries. They have been planting and maintaining oak trees as well as removing litter on Zaca Station Road and Foslin Canyon Road in the Los Libros area of the 3rd Supervisor District.
Well, and our thanks go to them as well because it's such a beautiful and scenic area with a lot of locals besides a lot of tourists along there all the time. So it's really nice that they do that for the whole area in their community. So thank you.
And Madam Chair, in closing we just want to say thank you to all of our wonderful volunteers. We can't do without them. And thank you to you Madam Chair and board members for allowing us to present this today.
Wonderful. I have one other question. Yes? Have we nominated this program for a CSAC award?
I think that came up in the agenda review a couple of weeks ago, so we're going to look at it.
We're going to do it now. Oh, this is a definite winner. Thank you.
Thank you. Madam Chair?
Yes, Supervisor Lavagnino.
Scott, do we provide them with the tools and all that kind of good stuff? I've seen like the highway pickup, they give them the pickup stuff and the vests and that stuff. Do we do that or they got to get
their own? We get essentially all of the safety equipment they need. And I think we may get them the pickup tools things like that for loader control but beyond that they supply everything else.
Roll-call vote Passed Moved by Joni Gray · Seconded by Salud Carbajal
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Closed session? Yes. Announcement, okay. Madam Chair there are two noticed items for closed session one existing litigation Lulam versus County of Santa Barbara and then a second item is conference with labor negotiators employer relations.
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Okay so we're going to close session we will come back at 1 o'clock for agenda item number five
Yeah.
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Good morning from NASA's Johnson Space Center. This is Mission Control Houston, you're inside the International Space Station flight control room as you look at a team of flight controllers that are watching over the systems aboard the International Space Station. The team today is led by Veteran Flight Director Brian Smith. He is overseeing this team throughout the day ending its shift late afternoon With three shifts watching over all of the systems aboard this station. To his right is astronaut Anna Fisher, she is serving as the communications link between the flight control team here in Houston and the crew on board the International Space Station that makes up the Expedition 32 crew.
That space station, International Space Station is on the dark side of the Earth tracking southeasterly across central China. The station from this vantage point of about 256 statute miles is circling the Earth every 92 minutes affording an orbital sunrise and sunset to the crew about every 45 minutes or so The crew aboard the station, two three-person crews that arrived at the station at different times. The first three crew members that arrived aboard the 30 Soyuz spacecraft known as TMA-04M Our Commander of Expedition 32 Gennady Padalka, Flight Engineer Sergei Revin representing the Russian Space Agency and Astronaut Joe Acaba. They arrived at the station back in mid-May and they plan to return home in mid-September about a little less than a month from now The other three crew members that arrived at the station aboard the Soyuz 31 spacecraft known as TMA-05M are Russian cosmonaut Yuri Malenchenko, U.S.
astronaut Sonny Williams and Japanese astronaut Aki Hoshide. They arrived at the station about a month ago in mid July and they plan to stay aboard the complex until mid November So the first three crew members are enjoying their 99th day in space, 97 of those aboard the Space Station. And the other three crew members are on their 38th day in space, 36 of those aboard the orbiting complex.
The Expedition 32 crew is busy aboard the station. They have an abbreviated work day, but nonetheless busy having recycled a bit after Monday's Russian EVA or extravehicular activity that saw all of the tasks completed that were planned during that spacewalk that lasted just under six hours The spacewalk was the 163rd EVA in support of station assembly, maintenance and experiment work outside the complex. It was the 9th for Gennady Padalka and the 5th for Yuri Malenchenko The next spacewalk planning is already underway for that spacewalk that Sonny Williams and Aki Hoshide will perform on August 30th, late next week.
They will be operating that spacewalk, conducting that spacewalk out of the U.S. segment of the station, the Quest airlock. Tuesday Joe Acaba worked with Aki Hoshide in the Japanese Experiment Module working on the external airlock portion of the module, a unique addition to the Japanese Experiment Laboratory. And in and around that, Sonny Williams worked with the burning and suppression of solids experiments, wrapping up an experiment operation with all of the igniters. That experiment's been operated on and off for a couple of months.
The next opportunity will be when some new ignitors are delivered to the station in about three months. The three U.S. operating system crew members, that would be Joe Acaba, Sonny Williams and Aki Hoshide are also preparing today for a procedural review for the spacewalk mentioned that Williams and Hoshide will perform on the 30th so they'll be conducting a procedural review as part of their workday Tuesday as well. So another busy day for the Expedition 32 crew aboard the International Space Station and they will reset their clocks and get back to their normal schedule after today's heading to bed about 4.30 in the afternoon.
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And Sunny, this is Huntsville. Due to Yuri's PMC coming up on space-to-ground 2 we've got Paul enabled on space-to ground 1 now. Okay awesome thanks for the heads up.
We join the conversation and the view from the International Space Station as Suni Williams prepares to continue work with the Burning and Suppression of Solids investigation, helping to examine the burning and extinction characteristics of various fuel samples that are delivered to the station known as igniters that are operated inside the Microgravity Sciences glove box in this controlled facility.
Most of Williams' conversation associated with this experiment, as Aki Hoshide looks over her shoulder and on the camera view will be conducted with Paul Ferkel who is the principal investigator on this experiment located remotely obviously at the National Center for Space Exploration Research in Cleveland.
And we might have a flames, honey.
Station Houston on one. Base to ground two is privatized for Yuri's conference and dialing SST 15. And I have something for Joe and Sergei when they get a moment.
Yeah, in Cleveland on, uh, on 611. It didn't look like...it looked like we got a quick light but then it went out. I'll try it again.
Okay, sound good. Energy Zone 1, copy. I'll ask Joe to call back when he's finished.
Copy
Okay, Sonny. We'll see if that goes out. Still no flame. You can try to reignite.
Okay yeah each time it seems like there's a little puff of smoke and then it goes away. Let's try one more time.
The burning and suppression of solids experiment, the BASS experiment at least through this run that's occurred over a couple of expeditions consists of 41 fuel samples that are categorized by flat solid spheres candles within tubes and then some thin flat samples of various lengths.
And Cleveland 9-1, it looked like that time the igniter went out.
Copy that. That worked out because that was our last test plan for the next few months so that should be fine.
Okay sounds good.
So we just need a work volume purge and the glove ports off and air circ on? Houston, Station on 1. Go
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ahead on one.
Yep this is Joe just calling you back.
Yeah Joe thanks um just want to let you know that your PST file in your email is fixed.
Oh great thank you very much!
Station Houston on one for Sergei when you get a three minutes. And station Houston on one for Yuri, we're ready for your conference whenever you are.
Yeah.
You are good to go in there. You can still the sample and the igniter.
Okay, sounds good.
Sonny Williams now wrapping up the activities associated with the BASS experiment, which is again the Burning and Suppression of Solids investigation examining the burning and extinction characteristics of various fuel samples in the microgravity environment of space. And in this controlled microgravity sciences glove box aboard the station she's been working with this experiment Essentially, most of her morning the crew had an abbreviated Workday that began with a wake-up call, essentially about 5 o'clock this morning U.S. Central time. Crew will go to bed on its regularly scheduled clock which is about 430 this afternoon central time and that should put them back on their normal routine of waking up about 1 o'clock each day and then going to bed about 430 each afternoon.
I've seen it a few times and had a little bit of a buff, but this is too much for it.
Houston, Station 1-1. This is Sergei. I'm ready for...
Yes, Sergei. We would like you to power on your SSE and log in so that we can deploy some new software. That's your CSL
machine. I can use it or not? Repeat please. Switch off or switch on?
In addition to the experiment work Sonny Williams is conducting today, Tuesday inside the U.S. segment of the International Space Station yesterday of course the two Russian cosmonauts Gennady Padalka and Yuri Malenchenko performed a Almost six-hour spacewalk. It actually lasted five hours, 51 minutes and that was conducted out of the airlock on the Russian segment of the station, the Pirs docking compartment.
While that EVA was taking place inside the station, Sonny Williams took an opportunity to take some of the cameras and high-definition cameras documenting the preparatory work for that spacewalk as well as some of the views outside through the window of the two cosmonauts as they performed the nearly six hour EVA.
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All right, this is where Joe and Sergey will be. This is their little prison for the next six hours or so. Let's see what kind of things they have in here. It's not much room but it's a big area. We all remember this one? As you can see, it's still out. This is the squad car right there. Maybe one of the guys will be on that if there are any other guys. Let's see what else we can see. It's pretty bright. Not much else looking up toward the station but it's hard to see Barbara County Board of Supervisors meeting This is this green area right here, the backup airlock. That's why the hatches have to be closed in case the SO doesn't pressurize Then, you guys can come in this green area. They have a panel right here where they can activate all of the stuff they need to with the back of the airlock.
It's just like the NESO does the same thing. Are you done now? Are you in?
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That was playback as it happened on Monday with the spacewalk by Expedition 32 Commander Gennady Padalka and Flight Engineer Yuri Malenchenko, the two cosmonauts preparing the outside of the Russian segment with relocating one of the boom assemblies known as Astrela which is the Russian word for arrow. They also installed some debris shields on the outside of the Zvezda service module to bolster its It's outside shielding from any micrometeoroid debris impacts.
And they also continue their preparatory work for the eventual departure of that Pirs docking compartment to make room at that docking port for a scientific, Russian scientific laboratory slated for launch to the station and attachment as a permanent scientific module in the next year or two. Crew members also deployed a small satellite. We have some footage also from yesterday's spacewalk of that activity as well.
All right, then I'll go down. Okay, are you ready? I am ready. Okay, lower it down. That's good. Beautiful! Do you see it? Volodya, did you see the flight? It's beautiful. Really beautiful. And you can see the sun is being reflected, it's absolutely gorgeous. It's difficult to take it into focus. Yes, we can see it via six cameras. Beautiful! It was absolutely gorgeous. A little bit under an angle 10-15 degrees towards service module.
All right, let me stow the camera. Did you take a photo? Are you going to leave it here or take it with you? I'll see.
SPARRA satellite deployed at 129 p.m. Houston time as the crew was two hours 53 minutes into today's spacewalk still working ahead of the timeline now As they send this 20-pound steel sphere into Earth orbit for the next anywhere from two to five months.
Okay, copy that.
And that footage also was as it occurred pretty much midway through the EVA, the spacewalk that was conducted by Gennady Padalka and Yuri Malenchenko. Duration of five hours, 51 minutes brought the total spacewalking time for all EVAs conducted in support of station assembly maintenance and experiment work on the outside of the complex to a little more than 1027.5 hours.
Padalka completed his ninth space walk totaling more than 33 hours and Malenchenko his fifth totaling just a little bit more than 30 hours outside conducting spacewalks.
You're coming down. ...2.0 2.0
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Continuing to watch Suni Williams as she wraps up work with the Burning and Suppression of Solids experiment, the BASS experiment concluding its on-orbit operations until some new igniters or samples can be shipped up to the space station for activation inside the Microgravity Sciences Glovebox. The expectation is it'll be about two to three months or so before some new igniters can be shipped up to the station to continue this investigation into the burning and extinction characteristics of these different types of fuel samples that will hopefully help the investigators understand and contribute computational models that are used here on the ground in the design of fire detection and suppression systems, not only in microgravity but also for application here on Earth.
While the work continues watching over all of the systems aboard the International Space Station here on the ground, activities are getting underway in earnest with NASA's Commercial Crew Program as well. As you're probably aware back in early August earlier this month NASA awarded some additional The Space Act Agreement Awards as part of the Commercial Crew Integrated Capability part of the program after essentially almost wrapping up the Commercial Crew Development second phase of that project, as well. The initial awards under what's known as CCI-CAP actually came about August 3rd.
The three companies that were awarded funding to continue their work toward a critical design review are the Boeing Company, SpaceX or Space Exploration Technologies and Sierra Nevada Corporation. All this week we're going to take the opportunity to talk to some of the players if you will program managers and partner managers associated with the Commercial Crew Program. First up, the Boeing Company which was awarded $460 million as part of the CCI cap is holding a series of meetings this week to essentially get ready for all of the supporting milestones that will be completed over the next 21 months or so Boeing's contribution to the Commercial Crew Program basically consists of a capsule design that is currently targeted to launch on a United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket.
The CST-100, as it's known, has already undergone a good bit of testing work As it heads into the next phase of the program. Earlier today, as part of that ongoing effort for the Commercial Crew Program, Gennaro Caliendo stopped by here in Mission Control to talk about The next phase of the Commercial Crew Program from the Boeing contribution standpoint, he is the partner manager for NASA in support of Boeing's efforts with the Commercial Crew Program.
Well, I'd like to welcome everybody inside Mission Control. We're pleased to be joined this morning by Gennaro Caliendo. Gennaro is based at Kennedy Space Center in Florida. He is the partner manager for the Commercial Crew Program for Boeing, one of the three partners in the Commercial Crew Integrated Capability Contract, or not really contract but Space Act Agreements I guess. We're continuing with that and that was just awarded in early August. Gennaro welcome to Mission Control we're glad to have you here. Thanks for having me Kyle. Gennaro comes to NASA I guess from years of working in the aerospace business down at the Kennedy Space Center he started out hails from Long Island area New York And I had a big interest in aerospace and a friend suggested that there might be some openings down in Florida, and that's how you ended up with NASA right?
Yeah. That's good memory Kyle. It was a while back we had this discussion.
Well yeah Gennaro, we talked back in March when there were seven partners under the previous Commercial Crew Development Space Act agreements right, and of course now the programs Whittled that down to the three that we're working with now and you retain the role of a partner manager with Boeing, right? Yeah. Obviously one of the reasons that Gennaro's here and I'll let you talk about this is your having kickoff meeting starting actually today with Boeing here in Houston and the whole team has assembled here, right? That's correct. We're all here.
We got in here last night and we're looking forward to a good review starting this morning for the next three days
We'll talk about what that review is all about and I assume that all the partners are going to do that. In fact, we are going to have conversations with the three partner managers. Gennaro happens to be going first because he's got to get to the meetings and so we're going to visit with you first but talk a little bit about this whole project this week.
Sure. Boeing doesn't really do a kickoff per se Kyle it's basically a continuation of their program baseline plan. Up next for them is a meeting called the Integrated System Review, and essentially what it does is sets the baseline that they're going to be using over the next 21 months of this ICAP period. What it's doing is comparing how well their baseline design is meeting up with their requirements And then any points of departure that they need to have from this point forward, improvements to their design or things that they need to fix. That's essentially what we're doing this week and hopefully we'll have a good successful review with
them. Talk a little bit about how you were structured at least from the partner manager standpoint under the CCDEV2 part of this and now under the new program?
Right, under CCDEV2 we were mostly focused on Accomplishing the task of providing insight and guidance against Boeing's design and their requirements. For ICAP, what we're going to do is we're going to kind of focus a little bit more on That part of it as it becomes a more integrated vehicle, but also looking at certification requirements. And so what we've done in our partner integration team is actually created two legs to that. So we have a set up, I have a deputy Bill Lane that works for me He will be handling most of the ICAP work, which is the Space Act Agreement. And then John McKinney who also was working in the program as well before, he will be handling more of the certification issues as it pertains to NASA type requirements and how well Boeing is achieving or accomplishing their goals that meet our requirements.
How big is your team? I mean obviously it's larger now probably on the NASA side than it was under CCDEP,
right? Right. It is. We've effectively doubled the size of our team, our small partner integration team. Of course we're pulling from resources throughout engineering, safety, health and medical and we have reps on the team from all those different categories that I just described And they're pulling from a pool of resources here at the Johnson Space Center, at the Kennedy Space Center as well as the Marshall Space Flight Center depending on the expertise that we're looking for.
Just to refresh for those that may be new to Commercial Crew Program, at least following it, talk a little bit about Boeing's contribution. A capsule design, but it's very robust and they've made a lot of progress through the early stages and now we're here.
Yeah
sure
Boeing is producing a CST-100. As you said it's a capsule design. It will be launched on an Atlas V for right now that's what they contracted for It will fly up into low Earth orbit and then rendezvous, for us we hope with the International Space Station and then re-enter similarly to any other spacecraft but instead of as in the shuttle instead of landing on wheels it's going to actually use parachutes like the old Apollo style.
The really interesting thing about the way they're going to do it is they're actually going to land on land using airbags Some of the things within CCDEV2 that they did was to prove out some of these concepts, what they considered high-risk areas. One of them being airbag technology to make sure that they could actually land safely on airbags. The other one was parachutes to make sure the parachutes would work.
They also had on this vehicle just like all the other partners, they're having to produce a launch escape system and so they tested out some of those brand new motors with their subcontractors Talk a little bit about
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Since you've worked so closely with Boeing through CCDEV2, y'all's comfort factor I guess in working together it obviously gets better and better in terms of the integration between the...I mean Boeing is no stranger to working with NASA anyway. Right. But obviously y'all are getting much more comfortable working closely together that's probably part of why you retain your role working with Boeing as the partner manager?
Yeah, we've had a good relationship. I think for us it's more an evolution on both sides actually. Boeing and NASA both are as we talked about last time in a new kind of environment. And we continue to evolve as we try and figure out exactly what our roles are. This is a learning process for both of us. We continue to kind of maneuver or reshape our teams on both sides to try and get the most and we provide a little bit more guidance nowadays than we did on the front end.
And Boeing, of course, they're a very capable corporation and they've got very, very capable people. A lot of them are shuttle heritage people so they know the kinds of questions to ask and we also have the right people on our side to kind of help get them the answers when we can.
We're talking with Gennaro Caliendo. Gennaro is the partner manager for NASA in terms of the Commercial Crew Program with Boeing and he's here in town in Houston for a series of meetings to basically get started with CCICAT, which is Commercial Crew Integrated Capability. Boeing was awarded $460 million as part of this latest development as part of the stepping stones to get to flight in a few years and you already talked a little bit about what was accomplished at CCDEV2.
Obviously, there's a whole series of new milestones or maybe not new but a set of different milestones that have to be worked out and talk a little bit about how it's structured in terms of getting to that you said 21 months
right? 21 months yeah the base period 21 months so we had within our Our request for proposals, I guess probably not using the right term but we had a request that all these partners get to a critical design review level within their designs. So in this area here Boeing is taking stepping stones to get to that point. There's 19 milestones. The next couple coming up here are the production design reviews. This is where they're taking and looking at the design on paper and then seeing We'll step into a phase one safety review and that's where they're looking at the preliminary design review products that were produced under CCDF 2.
And then doing the initial hazards and causes, and then the controls that they have in place to see how adequate they are. And then see if there's any things that they need to do to improve the design to prevent these hazards from occurring. Now there's a bunch of other milestones over the next 21 months. I guess we'll have a chance to talk more about them in the future.
Yeah, I hope so. I know you already kind of touched on this but you said back in March that this was a new world for both NASA and Boeing even though they work closely together on other contracts. You think it's still a new world or have we gotten a little bit past that? We've still got a ways to go? No,
I think we talked about it a little bit ago there. It is still new. We are getting a lot more comfortable working in this environment, both sides. There's still a few growing pains to go and sharing data is really important when it comes to this type of business. We have a lot of expertise on the NASA side that we can share from other programs, shuttle. Orion is one where this particular partner benefits quite a bit from.
The problem we have sometimes is how to do that exactly and we're still learning that process, we've been working pretty closely with the folks at Orion and they try and get them to work with us and they've been pretty good about helping when they can of course there are certain rules and regulations and restrictions about how that data can go back and forth from not just NASA to Boeing, but NASA to all these commercial partners or any commercial entity. So we're learning there.
Boeing is really eager to get some of that data. We are eager to help them with that data. We don't certainly want to reinvent the wheel if we've already produced it. for other programs. And so that's where I think we continue to learn how to work in that environment.
Well, all of that previous knowledge from all those other programs shuttle station even certainly helps with regard to all of that activity and of course that's one of the reasons that Gennaro is here with the whole team is to get all that work started and get more and more comfortable working together and get started with all these milestones So we'll let you go and get started with all that. We really appreciate you coming by and joining us here in the station flight control room because obviously one of the goals is for Boeing to hopefully send that capsule with crew members from U.S. soil to the International Space Station to make it even more robust in terms of crew transport. So, Gennaro, we really appreciate you stopping by. Thank you, Kyle.
Thank you for having me. Sure. Gennaro Caliendo, he is the Partner Manager for Boeing for NASA's Commercial Crew Program. We'll continue with some additional Commercial Crew Program interviews throughout the week. Planned for Wednesday are the two partner managers for the other two partners as part of the CC-ICAP phase of Commercial Crew Program, Cheryl McPhillips who is the Partner Manager for the Sierra Nevada Corporation And also Derek Hassman, you may remember Derek as a veteran flight director. He's serving now as the partner manager for the Commercial Crew Program associated with SpaceX, Space Exploration Technologies. So we'll be talking to them on Wednesday about their roles under this new phase of commercial crew program development.
Also later this week, the Deputy Program Manager for Commercial Crew Program Brent Jett, a veteran astronaut and now the Deputy Director of or Deputy Manager of the Commercial Crew Program will stop by on Thursday to talk about the overall status of the program and the going forward plan for the Commercial Crew Program as well. Meanwhile back in space, you're looking down at the Earth from a vantage point of 254 statute miles. Looking over Conotauri 3.
Japanese contribution as a cargo transport vehicle to the International Space Station known as the H-II Transfer Vehicle or HTV. The Konotori, which is the Japanese word for white stork delivering supplies and logistics to the International Space Station This view as the station approaches the central western coastline of Chile, as it begins a northeasterly swing across South America. The orbital track will take the station high above Bolivia and Brazil before swinging out across the northern coast Skirting the coastline of French Guiana as it then tracks out across the Atlantic Ocean. The next coastal crossing beyond that will be the western coastline of France after skirting the northeast coast or northwestern coastline of Spain.
It's a very clear definition of where the cloud cover ends and the coastline begins as this view looking down from the International Space Station, an external camera on the outside of the complex. One of many that provides external views around the station to It assists not only with different Earth views but also in times of external work on the station such as spacewalks. It allows flight controllers, investigators to follow along with the crew on the outside of the complex from the various cameras located strategically around the perimeter of the station which is quite large at basically the size of a football field with a mass and space of well over 900,000 pounds.
Several of the crew members are essentially in their midday meal. The crew will Wrap up its day with an afternoon daily planning conference that we'll conduct with all six crew members and the flight control team members around the world that are supporting International Space Station operations. That daily planning conference is scheduled just before 2 p.m. Central time, and then the crew will head into pre-sleep activities before going to bed about 430 Tuesday afternoon.
Additionally, the crew will plan for Wednesday's activities. Tomorrow a reboost is scheduled using the ATV which is the Automated Transfer Vehicle known as the Eduardo Amaldi European Space Agency contribution to the cargo deliveries to the International Space Station The ATV-3 is docked to the back end of the Russian segment of the station. You may recall that a reboost was begun last week with The thrusters located on the Eduardo Amaldi, the ATV-3 that was terminated prematurely and was rescheduled in two parts. That is scheduled to occur on Wednesday early in the morning central time, the first part of that two phase reboot.
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Good afternoon, everybody. If I could have everybody take their seats now please and quiet down we want to go ahead and resume our hearing Thank you first we're going to have a report from closed session Mr. Marshall
Thank you, Madam Chair. Both of your agendized items were considered in closed session and there are no actions taken that require reporting. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you. All right so then we will move to departmental agenda item number five. Mr. Allen would you read that into the record please?
Madam chair members of the board, Item 5 is from planning and development it's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Olson appeal We're going to do this in a particular order and timing. So that everybody knows we're going to start out with the staff presentation of about 5 minutes then we're going to hear from the appellant Mister Olson will have up
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I met with Carla Frisk and her colleague right next to her who I can't recall his name
Alex
I did a site visit quite awhile back with the appellant, Mr. Olson to the site
and I've had several conversations with Ms. Frisk and
one of them included Mr. Tsai.
All right. Staff, go ahead and start us off here.
You know what? I just recalled a brief conversation I had with a representative from EDC. Thank you.
Good afternoon Madam Chair and Supervisors. My name is Anne Almey and I'll be making staff's presentation on the Olson Appeal of the Trust for Public Land in Devereux Creek Properties lot split. The project is a 70.32 acre lot located in the coastal zone of the Goleta Community Plan area in the 3rd Supervisorial District. It is an urban lot, Zone PRD 58. That means planned residential development, 58 units maximum.
This particular lot has a 60% open space requirement per Goleta Community Plan Development Standard LUDS GB 2.1 The lot is currently developed with the Ocean Meadows Golf Course located west of Stork and north of El Calejo. Surrounding land uses include a residential area and UCSB-owned open space to the north, to the east is future UCSB housing, to the south is UCS B owned open space, and to the west is the Sperling Preserve Elwood Mesa Open Space.
The proposed project would divide the 70.32 net engross acre lot into three lots. Lot one would measure 63.93 acres. Lot 2, 5.89 acres and lot 3 half an acre. The PRD zone district applicable to the lot requires planning for the entire parcel as a whole. As such the project includes the assignment of 30 units to lot 1 with the remaining 28 units to be split between lots two and three upon future coordinated development of the two lots under one development plan application.
The open space requirement of 60% minimum would be met for the entire parent parcel on Lot 1, as it would be dedicated to open space. Specifically upon recordation of the TPM, Lot 1 would be sold to the Trust for Public Lands and would be deed restricted such that no residential development could occur on the lot. These deed restrictions stem from requirements of the funding grantors The resulting 63.93 acre lot would then be conveyed to a long-term steward anticipated to be UCSB for purposes of conservation and restoration.
The project also includes demolition of an unpermitted employee dwelling located on Proposed Lot 2. Access to Proposed Lots 1 and 3 is provided from Whittier Drive from the north, and access to Lot 2 is provided via an existing 20-foot wide easement across the UCSB property from Stork Road. All services are available. In respect to the history of this application, the project was originally approved by the zoning administrator on May 7th 2012 On May 16th, the applicant timely filed an appeal of the Zoning Administrator's action to the Planning Commission.
On June 22nd, the Planning Commission denied the appeal and approved the project. And on June 28th, the appellant filed this appeal to your board again in a timely manner. The appellant raises the same six appeal issues in his appeal to your board as he did in his appeal to the Planning Commission. The first three appeal issues are on the screen. Items I've listed as 1 and 2 pertain to the adequacy of the CEQA exemption primarily as applied to the lot split.
In response, firstly both the proposed subdivision of land and the demolition of the former employee residence are considered development in the coastal zone. CEQA guideline section 15.315 is specifically written for minor land divisions in urban areas zoned for residential use and for fewer parcels when, as in the instant case, the lot split is consistent with the general plan and zoning requirements Secret Guidelines Section 15301L1 is specifically written for the demolition and removal of individual small structures such as the employee residence.
While future development of Lots 2 and 3 is likely, at this time consideration of future development would be speculative as there are no applications in process for any development on the lots. Additionally, by virtue of the PRD Zone District any future development would be subject to the requirements of a Development Plan and Environmental Review. As such, the CEQA exemptions are appropriately applied to this project.
In respect to appeal item number three shown on the screen, contrary to the appellant's assertion and as discussed previously, the proposed tentative parcel map does treat the parent parcel as a whole in respect of the PRD zone district allowances for 58 units and requirements for 60% open space. In response to Appeal Item 4, contrary to the appellant's assertion, the parcel history was mentioned in the Zoning Administrator Staff Report and discussed in detail in the Planning Commission Appeals Staff Report.
Briefly, the site has operated under a conditional use permit as a golf course since 1966. In the 2000s applications for then proposed development were processed to allow 56 residential units and retention of the golf course under a new then proposed rec land use zone designation. That project was conceptually approved by the Board of Supervisors on October 19th, 2004.
It was subsequently approved with modifications by the California Coastal Commission on May 7th, 2006. The case became inactive in 2007 and it was subsequently withdrawn. In respect to Appeal Item 5, the City of Goleta was provided notice of the hearings before the Zoning Administrator and before the Planning Commission. And the city did not provide comments.
The city was also noticed at this Board of Supervisors appeal hearing. Lastly, in response to Appeal Item 6, the Trust has a sales agreement with the property owner. That agreement is not part of the project before the Board of Supervisors. Also, the issue of long-term stewardship is not a part of the project before your board. In any event, the Trust for Public Land has competed for and won several grants from various agencies – state, federal and non-profit.
Acquisition projects must meet strict eligibility requirements and the Trust for Public Land is required to restrict the uses of the land according to the requirements of the funding agencies. These restrictions include restrictions on allowable uses to habitat restoration, access passive recreation, education etc. The use restrictions will pass with the land to the long-term steward in this case UCSB As discussed under appeal items, the project is exempt from CEQA pursuant to CEQA guidelines sections 15315 for the lot split and 15301L1 for demolition of the employee residence.
As discussed in the ZA and PC staff reports both attached to your board packet on this item, the project is consistent with applicable policies and development standards contained in the coastal land use plan and the Gleda Community Plan, and it is consistent with the standards contained in Article 2 of the Coastal Zoning Ordinance. As such, staff recommends that your board in summary deny the appeal 12-APL14, make the required findings for approval of the project, determine the project is exempt from CEQA Approve 11 TPM 7 and approve 12 CDH 9. That would conclude staff's presentation, and we are available for comments and questions.
Thank you any questions of staff at this time before we go to the appellant? Okay seeing none will go ahead and ask Mr Olson the appellate to come forward and you'll have up to 10 minutes.
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Thank you Chair Farr, members of the board. I was forced to appeal this land split because as we can all tell it's the beginning of a major land use project that affects my neighborhood and the Devereux property reserve. The entire area is is surrounded by the influence of UCSB. We have quite a few results in our neighborhood based on the influence of UCSB, but no doubt it's the beginning of a major project that without my appeal would have gone through one person zoning administrator. The job would've been said and done The owner would have his $7 million and it'd all be over.
I don't think that it's good government to handle $7 million transactions without the interest of the public being vented. The one thing for sure that the project will do is kill the golf course. The killing of the golf course is a real questionable use for the mitigation fees that you folks oversee, it's a questionable use of the CREF funding that you folks oversee.
I believe that it's significant to have a certain amount of overview of these types of massive expenditures I don't want to speak poorly of anybody involved in this, so I think I'll rely on my written text because we have angry citizens talk to you all the time and it's very easy from this point of view to get frustrated. So I will try to control myself. The vague outcome is documented somewhat in some of the documentation and that the idea is to come in, expand the slough and recreate a stream bed that's environmentally appropriate.
One of the things that's not mentioned in the documents is the idea that there is an environment there. The golf course is a 40-year old environment that's landscaped and irrigated, Thousands of animals live because the golf course exists. So when someone comes to you and says we're going to return this to nature, it's sometimes questionable and one of the reasons why the last page in my appeal shows a 1960s picture of the aerial view that actually shows what natural is.
It's what's called a fan delta It's simply the erosion of the mountains washing towards the ocean, not supported by any consistent stream to carry the mud products in the wintertime to the oceans. So it creates a silting process that creates the fan delta effect. The reason that I'm acting is to shed light on the issue. I think that it's somewhat not a good priority for the funding that's available to you. I think that you could easily look at Goleta Beach or you could look at more Mesa properties and you could find better use for coastal enhancement One of the things that one of the insiders mentioned to me is how he said, well John, you know, coastal enhancement's where the money is. And it certainly is.
The other argument that I've heard is this is some type of private transaction. That money doesn't come out of the sky, and it's not a private transaction. It's the use of mitigation fees that you've legislated. Companies have paid. Different people have been lobbied to grant money to the trust. The trust is a funnel for these, and I certainly don't want to undermine or demean the activities of the trust in any way shape or form. I just think their priorities are somehow driven to where this project actually goes a mile inland And you kind of wonder, well, where does it end? I mean that's a long way from the beach. It's a good hike. My compliments to Public Works. They did a good job five years ago of dredging the creek and improving the drainage so the golf course drains in a day in the wintertime.
And my compliments to planning staff in that they certainly as you can see by the reams of paper they have certainly crossed their Ts and dotted their Is In my written comments, I did use the term mining of public funds and I have used the term gaming of the system. My respect goes to the people because they do know how to write grants and they do know how to push the envelope.
It's just that I'm not sure it's in the interest of the area. And I would, Madam Chair if it's possible, I would like to save the remainder of my time for my rebuttals.
Okay, well you would have up to five minutes to rebut anyway. So did you not have any other comments at this particular time?
Well I just had a little bit of a slide show that would take a little bit more than five minutes in the end so I'll show that to you later if you don't mind. Okay.
That's up to you sir. All right then we'll go ahead and we will turn to the project applicant also have up to 10 minutes
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Good afternoon, Madam Chair, members of the board. My name is Alex Size. I'm the project manager with the Trust for Public Land for the acquisition of the Ocean Meadows Golf Course. Today we have two speakers with us. The landowner Mark Green And as well as Carla Frisk, who is a Santa Barbara County Program Manager for the Trust for Public Land. I'd like to first say thank you to the staff for a very thorough job that they've done on this matter and also thanks to you in appreciation of your time and focusing on this matter this afternoon.
So with that, I'm going to invite Mark Green up to talk. Also we have Ginger Anderson with Penfield & Smith to answer any technical questions there might be on this matter. So at this time I invite Mark Green, the landowner to come and speak to you.
Okay so this is going to be during your 10 minute?
Yes.
Okay thank you. Mr. Green
Thank you Madam Chair, ladies and gentlemen of the board. First of all I couldn't agree with Mr. Olson anymore. The golf course is certainly a great resource for the city and county however it's a losing resource. I've been maintaining it to the tune of millions of dollars of losses In order to maintain that resource, but it is no longer feasible for me to do so and I have to make other decisions. I'm 82 years old, I'm back practicing law full time to cover losses at a golf course.
It pains me to give up but that's my reality, I have to deal with it. I understand Mr. Olson that he has been the beneficiary of my maintaining very well landscaped backyard for him but I can no longer do that. We've applied, we've complied with all the rules and laws necessary to do a lot split. But Mr. Olson would like to tell me how to run my business. If he funds it I might listen to him. But the reality is this isn't about the issues that he raises as to funding sources of buyer has nothing to do with whether I'm entitled to a lot split. Or whether or not I have complied with all the rules and regulations in applying.
Staff has done a wonderful job, they held our feet to the fire and made us comply with everything. And we have complied and what's before you today is whether or not the process has been fairly done. Mr. Olson has had opportunities at every hearing and takes advantages of his opportunities at every hearing to be heard And, you know, there's been no denial of anybody's rights to be heard on it. The process has been fairly done and has been done in accordance with law and the decision of the board is really have we properly complied? Did the Planning Commission exercise appropriate discretion which I am confident they have?
And hopefully the Board will recognize that and deal with it appropriately. Thank you very much.
Thank you Mr. Green, thank you for being here. Just a moment please. Supervisor
Wolf? I just wanted the clock to be stopped because I have a comment to make. Mr. Green not about your comments but it also occurred to me that I also met with Ms. Frisk and Alex, I think it was in July so I just wanted to state that for the record. I'm sorry to interrupt. Well, I'm
the owner applicant and I haven't met with any of you. No, you have not. But I appreciate that but I've heard that Madam Chair has taken the time to go out and talk to everybody and the board is really trying to satisfy themselves as to the issues involved. And I trust you will fairly deal with it. Thank you very much.
Thank you Mr. Green, thank you for being here.
Thank you, Madam Chair and members of the board. Yes it's true I think I have spoken to most of you but I just wanted to be here to support the staff report on you know as a local Trust for Public Land representative and I just hit on a couple of really specific points that I think are really important to emphasize. As stated in the staff report the purpose of this lot split is simply to allow the trust for public land to buy 63 and some odd portion of another acre so that What happened in 1965 when the wetland was filled can be reversed. So that is the entire purpose of this parcel map. We do not have any development proposed on any of the parcels, there's no development proposed on the parcels that will be left behind. That's another time, another matter.
In the future if Mr. Green or another landowner wishes to propose development on lots two and three That person will have to come, will have to go through the county's planning process and then the Coastal Commission and the whole nine yards. And in addition to that when we get to the restoration phase, we will obviously have to be going back through the permitting process assuming that the university is in fact a landowner at that time believe that will be a coastal commission process. But the point that I think is important to acknowledge, is the fact that this lot split today is just a lot split. It doesn't take away the future for anybody in the community to be part of the future of the property. In fact we plan on holding a community based planning process to get input from the neighbors and others as to what this ultimately should look like.
There's a lot of benefits to the community that will be realized through this. There'll be passive recreational use, there'll be positive impacts to flooding issues that currently exist in the area and so I think it's overall definitely a benefit to the community that this project is going to bring and so based on staff report and what you've heard already in these comments we would urge you to deny this appeal thank you
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Just one last item is that the Planning Commission did deny this appeal on a 5-0 vote. So, it's the last comment from me.
Thank you.
Any other questions for us
or for
Benfield and Smith?
I'm directing this to you as well as staff, but I just want to make sure I read the staff report correctly. This is zoned residential correct? So if we don't go from a golf course to what you are pursuing which is this Regeneration of the ecosystem there, a wetland and the ecosystem as we know it. Somebody could actually build the entire 58 units in that area but what you're doing is restoring the area to its original environmental habitat extinguishing 30 units of development And the 28 that would remain on the other two lots would still be allowed to proceed in the future. But, in essence you're minimizing development correct by 30 units?
That's exactly right. The value and the property is really the developability of the property And so we are taking down 30 developable units.
I certainly understand Mr. Olson's concern from a golf course to a wonderful environmental, I wish all the problems were that easy where you have a nice golf course going to another nice environmental sustainable project. You can't really go wrong because what's not entailed here is development at least in the 63.9 acres that you guys are pursuing. Thank you very much.
Okay, I don't see any other questions at this time thank you very much. All right we'll go ahead and we will turn to the public now Mr. Allen.
Madam Chair we have five requests to speak start with Mary Jo Farrington to be followed by Christopher Wall.
Ms. Farrington?
Actually here she is.
Hi. Thank you, Madam Chairman and Supervisors. I need to put my glasses on thank you. I am obviously here to talk about this split, and I am not a golfer but I live at the Fairways Development. And as that map showed when you had it up there, there was a distinct little V-yellow line where the fairway's condominiums are directly edged against this property and that is my concern.
My concern is that there's not been an environmental impact study, and I understand from all the documentation that's been given out that there will be no development on this 63 acres. I applaud everybody for that decision. That's great. But there is an environment there, and an environment is what exists. And it has existed for 40 years. There is an environmental impact when they shut the water off Which would happen as soon as this transaction went through, they're going to shut up the irrigation of that area.
There's thousands of animals and birds that live in an environment that are gonna die, that are gonna invade our neighborhood because they're gonna be looking for food and water. So there is an environmental impact to us that live on the area and the animals that live out there. So we have enough skunks coming through the cat door, as it is now where we live. But it's going to just be I think get worse.
Let's see. One of the comments in the EDC letter was that they were going to do a result in habitat restoration. In my opinion, it's habitat destruction. There's a habitat there. Then they want to restore it to natural. Well, when was it natural? 200 years ago? 100 years ago? 40 years ago? At what point are they going to restore it to? If you restore it to what we've seen before there was an irrigated golf course there, it's going to be a dust bowl in the summer And a stinky algae ridden mud hole like the bird refuge in the winter because there's no access for any water that's going to sit there to get to the ocean. We're too elevated there so of all that I think there's an environmental impact to this project.
And if you approve the appeal or deny Mr. Olson's appeal, I think that you should make some stipulations that there needs to be some study as to what the Trust for Public Lands and UCSP is going to do with property once they acquire it. Thank you very much.
Thank you. Christopher Wall to be followed by Mike Lunsford.
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Madam Chair, board members. My name is Christopher Wall. I'm a licensed professional civil engineer and also a resident of the fairways. I am coming here to speak to you as a resident of the fairways and I'm supporting staff's recommendation for denial of the appeal. I've spoken to other homeowners in the area and received good input from other owners, especially along the golf course side And so everybody in the neighborhood does not object to this project. The Trust for Public Lands has approached many of the owners about forming a committee to give them input and review of their plans in the future, even though that's an issue that's not even being discussed today.
So I would like to support the staff's recommendation and look forward to working with the public land trust in the future, have input into what they plan on doing. And I'm sure that we'll go through the process as it happens and I don't think there's much to worry about. Hopefully Mr. Green can sell his property. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Wall. Mike Lunsford to be followed by Darlene Sherman.
Good afternoon Madam Chair, members of the board as you know I represent the Gaviota Coast Conservancy our interest in this property is that this is the easternmost watershed on the Gaviota coast as we define it from Coal Oil Point to Punta Guayo and beyond Now, your decision today really is about the technical planning details. But underlying that decision is what happens on the property and whether or not it's beneficial? You've heard some testimony from the neighbors and Mr. Olson about what happens in this transition to this restoration is the habitat that's there with a golf course worthy of protection.
I think everybody has heard the statistics about coastal wetlands, we've lost in California more than 90% of these things this is a rare opportunity to restore some wetland And the fact of the matter is in that restoration, the values in the neighborhood are going to go up because of the increased aesthetics. Golf courses can't compare to wetlands for biodiversity and value from an environmental point of view. So I would urge you to think of this as an opportunity for neighborhood enhancement, for the area enhancement. It enriches the area it doesn't degrade it. I happen as does Darlene Sherman who will testify also.
I joined a group at the university that's looking into and laying plans for this restoration. I specifically asked about what happens in this interim, you know if the irrigation is shut off on existing vegetation could that be a detriment to the neighbors? They plan it's kind of in our thinking that will continue to go on so there's no you know, aesthetic harm to the area as this goes forward. So I think it's a well thought out plan, certainly a great opportunity and we support it wholeheartedly.
Thank
you. Darlene Sherman to be followed by Mark Shatillo
Good afternoon. I'm Darlene Sherman, President of Santa Barbara Audubon Society. We're here today to support the staff position in denial of the Olson Appeal. Santa Barbara Audubon has a long-time partnership with the Colo Point Reserve which is just south of the Ocean Meadows Golf Course and have been aware for a long time This property is the historic upper Devereux Slough and we're really excited about the possibility of reestablishing wetlands and habitats to complement with what is existing now with the Devereux Slough.
We've also been very involved for a long time in preserving the South Parcel which is just to the west and south of the Ocean Meadows Golf Course, which now has a conservation easement and is owned by the University. So we are really looking forward to seeing this happen and would like to see your support for that. Thank you.
Thank
you.
Mr. Chatelot is our final speaker.
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Good afternoon, Madam Chair and members of the board. I'm Mark Shatillo and I'm here on behalf of the Goleta Valley Land Trust. We support the staff's recommendation and oppose the appeal. The Goleta Valley Land Trust has made grants for this project and it has assisted in the acquisition of the property as well as some of the planning for the restoration phase.
I've had a chance to look over the appeal materials. I don't see any meritorious, any substantive issues whatsoever with Mr. Olson's appeal. So I would encourage you to dismiss the appeal, allow this project to go forward. Thank you.
Thank you. All right, we'll go ahead and will return back to the appellant Mr. Olsen for rebuttal.
Thank you Chairman Farr and members of the board. Just to kind of rebuke some of the things quickly, Mr. Green's economic losses are somewhat self-inflicted. I guess an overview nasty statement would be he doesn't understand the volume part of an economic equation He's discouraged golf on the golf course for the last four or five years by holding tight to his pricing and not offering any type of memberships or monthly passes and so forth. It's almost like an intentional crashing of the airplane.
As Ms. Frisk emphasized, it's just a lot split. Well, it's the beginning and that's why I'm appealing to immediately certainly plan to follow all of the downstream activities anything to do with my neighborhood so I think that it's important to realize that this is the beginning and it should be viewed in that manner Mr. Carbajal, the proof in the pudding is the 2005 activity by Vermont Development on behalf of Mr. Green whereby 58 units were approved for the high ground 56 houses 21 low-income units two story clubhouse restaurant five condos that Ms. Gray was nice enough to point out we're building condos in the middle of a lake. That was all approved and taken right up to final, and I think that it was probably your office that withdrew it on behalf of the owner.
I'm not sure what was wrong with that idea because that was the high ground. The reason that there's no activity in these 63 acres as far as housing goes is first access but secondly 50% of it is in the 50-year flood zone. In the wintertime my backyard is a river Absolute river and in the design of the entire grading that occurred when Bishop Ranch developed this entire area from Hollister South was that the golf course was to be the floodplain. They cleaned out the ditches, created storm drainage And the golf course is the floodplain for that entire area that comes down from Camino Real Shopping Center. So it was by design, another thing by design was a weir that was put in when a road was installed to go out that way and the weir was designed to cause the silting not to silt up what you see today as the Debrow Slough so as far as building on the property that's pretty far-fetched You're not saving, you know, 30 units from development.
The 58 was, you know, fought by the community but it was accepted by your board 4 to 1. Mr. Lundfred's values I've lived on a golf course for quite awhile and I would much rather live on the golf course than live on the brown field that affects my sinuses every spring. Golf course living is high value property value thing and to have a trail, open space, unpoliced unknown reserve status by UCSB is just a wishful think. So I would argue with his ideas that somehow it's going to increase the value of anybody's property up against it.
You know, you're obviously being lobbied by a very professional group. And like I say again, I appreciate their tenacity and involvement and hands-on and just wonder somewhat why they are so vigorous on coming in lambda mile. This is an idea on the screen of picture number one which is This is the other head of the UCSB guerrilla, which is the development end.
Two million dollars a year just for the planning of development in my area. Probably 1,000 units within a half mile of my home will be developed over the next four or five years. This is the start. This is North Campus, 28 acres. We've been listening to backup alarms for a length of time This is the mud flat we're talking about. That mud that you see there is a repeated silting winter after winter, and that's why things don't grow there. If it wasn't for the silting every year more than likely it would be some type of growth. Every year mud comes down out of the hills, silts up not only this area but the golf course. This is what we all refer to as the Devereaux Slough at this point, and it's just south of the golf course And honestly, I wouldn't mind if it was expanded into the golf course 100 yards or so.
But you know, I don't think you need to kill a golf course to expand the slough. Another point to make is that mud is probably six feet above mean high tide. So how are you going to get the ocean to keep it wet? Difficult. How are you going to get the creek to be wet? Impossible. So the problem that you have with making a wetland is you've got nothing to make it wet.
So I'll go through my slides quickly here. Yeah, Mr.
Olson, I do need you to go ahead and wrap up.
Okay. This is stagnant water that it collects every summer. It's like the bird refuge we all smelled not long ago. Next one please. This is where I live. You see? Can't get any better than that. Next one please. Here's an endangered species called a golfer. Next one, please. This is the sign that says no trespassing up to the mudflat. We do a good job of keeping people out of all these areas that we're protecting and I'm not sure how the snowy plovers are going to like the channel to the ocean either so we can fight that one out later.
Next one. This is what the golf course has done under a contract with the county that came in and dredged the creek, and that's why I appreciate the work of Public Works. And then they were able to make, I think, a few acres of habitat restoration. This has been watered with a pickup truck every Tuesday and Thursday for the last five years to make those plants grow. You can't keep that up forever so we'll see how they weather now that the contract, I think, has been terminated. Next slide please.
These are some of the, it's been springtime around my neighborhood and squirrels all have babies. And so I just want to have you take a close look at the animals that need to drink their irrigation water. Thank you very much for your time.
Thank you Mr. Olson. All right we'll now give the project applicant some time to rebut. Five minutes?
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And chair members the board will be brief. I think there's just three things we would like to read, but one is that we want to emphasize that while we understand the concerns about what's going to happen on the property once we acquire it as a reason we've already begun meeting with the neighborhood out there. We've already had a couple of meetings and because of these appeals Slow that process down a little bit. But I think you have an email from Annie Lynn who's been very involved in our permit, our process to meet with the neighbors and Mr. Wall and others so we're already taking initiative to meet with the neighbors and see what their concerns might be and see how we can address them as we move forward. So we're doing that in advance of the permits that will actually have to be once again applied for.
And I think you are all experts in this, you know how many permits there will be Coastal Commission and Army Corps and Senate to go through this process to make sure that actually what is built out there in terms of restored wetland is absolutely the best project it can be and we're confident that will happen during that process. With regards to flood control, I know staff has and actually it was Ms. Harris that did talk to Flood Control at the time of the Planning Commission hearing. The County Flood Control actually submitted a letter on one of our grants because they believe that this will be an improvement to the area so we do have a support letter from County Flood Control.
And I think you might You know, possibly be interested in staff's opinion about the developability of the property. In fact we've gone over that substantially because the value of the property is based on its developability and based on all the information we have it is not unreasonable to believe that 38 units could be built on this property and they would be built right next to the existing neighborhood So I think because Mr. Green has made it clear that this is not a profitable situation, he is going to sell the golf course. If the Trust for Public Land does not buy this property, I think it's more than likely it would be purchased by a residential housing developer.
These would be houses that you could walk to the beach from unless you have something to add, I think.
Nothing further? Unless there was any questions. Okay.
Thank you. Okay and so then we will now turn to staff if you had any additional comments to make.
Madam Chair, Supervisors. The only comments I would make are first and foremost that what you're looking at today is simply a lot split not a proposal for future development as I mentioned earlier there are no proposals on our books for future development and the project that was previously proposed has been withdrawn. Secondly I just want to emphasize that in terms of environmental review for this limited project Section 15305 of the CEQA guidelines does apply to lot splits. We always look to exemptions first when we're performing environmental review, we found this exemption it does fit as the project is consistent with all policies and standards.
And secondly, the exemption for the demolition Employee dwelling is equally appropriate under section 15 301 L 1. Again, it's a PRD zoned project the property all of the properties be considered there are 58 units maximum 30 would be extinguished with this development proposal 28 would be left to be planned in the future upon someone some future owners interest in doing that and that would be subject to development plans and CEQA analysis so that unless you have questions that would summarize our
I read through the CEQA analysis and I thought you folks did a really good job. But, I had a question about the demolition removal of that employee dwelling and what I interpreted To have read here seems different than what you just said. What I think the report says is that to demolish or remove that dwelling, there needs to be a coastal development permit and I thought you said that it was exempt but if you could just clarify
Madam Chair, Supervisor, my apologies. I meant that it was exempt from CEQA under guideline section 15-301L1. It is subject to coastal development permits and that is one of the permits that's on appeal today 12 CDH 9. All right thank you very much
All right, if there aren't any other questions as this is in my district I'm going to go ahead and start off. But first of all, I want to thank Mr. Olson. Being an old neighborhood activist myself, I certainly appreciate somebody who cares deeply about their neighborhood and their community and changes that they see coming forward that concern them. And I know that the loss of the golf course is a great concern to you personally and also to people that you know, and also to the Goleta community because we have been losing golf courses.
You know, at the same time I do believe that the issues that are of concern to you that you've appealed on are not applicable in this case. And to me in many ways this is kind of a basic private property rights issue. That Mr. Green has the ability to sell his property, he has expressed on the record that he's had difficulty maintaining the golf course as a profitable operation and now this is something that he wants to do.
And this is certainly something that we have no preview over. He can do that. What is at issue here is the lot split and the ability then to sell a part of it to somebody else. So I think that it's appropriate that we go forward with this. I think that the concern about, Mr. Olson as you expressed at the beginning, that this is a beginning of a big change. Certainly there will be changes in the future all subject to their own permitting processes. This has been said any development that goes forward, any restoration that goes forward is going to be subject to more public input community meetings hearings and what have you. And certainly the fact that this extinguishes, if it moves forward, extinguishes some development rights I would think would be of benefit to the community into that neighborhood which has seen and will continue to see a lot of development particularly by UCSB so That being said I do support staff's recommendations and support the denial of the appeal and I will make that motion It's a motion seconded by Supervisor Wolf.
Comments on the motion, Supervisor Carbajal?
Supervisor Farrar I'll be supporting you on this matter. I lived in that vicinity for many years as a young married student with a family at Family Student Housing and I used to love going to Ocean Meadows to golf. At least I pretended to know how to golf And certainly I understand Ms. Jolson's desire to keep it that way, but I see this also as a great opportunity to really restore a piece of property its original habitat and enhance the ecosystem there. And I will venture to say, Mr. Olson that in the long run I think it'll be an equally rewarding piece of land the way I think the land for us is going to restore it in terms of the habitat and the species that will flourish there.
A good outcome at the end, but I do appreciate your concerns. The one thing I want to encourage because you did mention it and I have gotten a lot of calls from especially my constituents in Montecito. When the algae does bloom at the Bird Refuge, it does create a pretty significant nuisance and I would just encourage the land trust to put in mitigation measures that if and when that happens there are some viable solutions to address that. and that they be taken seriously into consideration because if I lived there, I would be concerned about having this sewer smelling circumstance often in my neighborhood. And despite how wonderful we love the environment by which that phenomenon is created It would also create a nuisance. So at the very least, I always take a kernel of what people say even if I disagree with your appeal and mention that so that the land trust could consider that as they develop this property into the ecosystem that it should be.
Thank you. Supervisor Lavagnini?
Thank you
Madam Chair and I'll also be supporting this but as a golfer I do sympathize with you Mr. Olson But I kind of look at this as like when my favorite restaurant closed in Santa Maria, you know for economic reasons. I didn't think I had the right to go back and force them to try to stay open. And I understand you said he had that you thought he was kind of allowing the golf course to go but when I look at Mr. Green too I think sometimes no good deed goes unpunished so we appreciate everything you did in keeping it open as long as you did. I think this is a great project and I'll be supporting it.
Thank you, so we have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. We're going to take just five minutes before we- I'm sorry,
Supervisor Carbajal. Madam Chair, I've been noticed that everybody's working hard to get on the same page and if we could do ten minutes. The longer the better but ten minutes it'll allow all the lawyers, the staff, and everybody who's working on this to work out a continuance And they're in the throes right now of working that out next door. And so if we could do 10 minutes, that might be more appropriate.
Okay, ten minutes before we pick up item number six. Thank you. ♪♪
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Madam Chair and members of the board, Item 6 is from planning and development. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Goolsbee and Goolsbee K appeal of the Montecito Planning Commission's approval of a Verizon wireless facility Switch facility at the Montecito switch station. This is located on Santa Angela Lane in the Montecito area in the first district,
okay? Before we proceed I'm going to ask for any ex parte conversations that The board will want to disclose supervisor Lavinia
Thank you madam chair. I had a chance to meet with Michael and Sarah Eglin and David Eglin age 7, Jamie age 5 and Margaret age 3 were all participants. Very spirited participants by the way. Martha Kay and Galit Aziat.
Thank you. Now I feel cheated, I didn't have any little ones that met with me so...I only had the adults. I met with the appellants Martha Kaye, David Kaye and others Don Archer, Jeff Crosby, Mike Walker, Joyce Hutchinson, Jane Aldridge, Mike Dabreski, Susie Dabreski, Sarah Eglin, Michael Eglin, Lizzie Pierce, Brent Pierce, Ceci Morton and Cindy Sage. Also Mary Rose.
And my staff met with many of the same individuals, including Mr. Mark Shatillo or had discussions with him. In terms of the applicant I met with Jay Higgins, Agent for Verizon Dwayne Bonham and Andrea Bright. My staff had discussions with Paul Albritton, Attorney for Verizon and that's it from me. And again, I felt cheated. I wasn't exposed to the children so
Supervisor Wolfe did you have any expertise on this
item? Thank You madam chair met with The appellates well Martha K Unfortunately don't have all of the names of the folks who are with her. I do recall the director Of the the preschool. I also had conversations with Mary Rose and March Attila
Thank You supervisor
I did not meet with anyone. Some of you know and some of you don't, but prior to this job And in a judicial procedure, I believe that everyone needs to hear all of the evidence equally. So whenever you meet separately with someone else, the other board members aren't privy to whatever I may be hearing so it's just my policy. I'm not necessarily right or wrong but I'm just very uncomfortable in judicial proceedings to take evidence out of the hearing room. Thank you.
Thank you. And I didn't meet with anybody either, and I just had the same letters and emails that I believe the rest of the board had on this. So we're going to turn to staff or else council. Maybe Supervisor Carballo do you want to? Thank
you Madam Chair. Having had some discussions with council, I guess it's my understanding that if we could ask both the plaintiff and the appellants to come forward at this point We read the item into the record, Mr. Allen. Madam Chair it's my understanding that They have agreed on a continuance to September 4th and agreed to continue meetings subsequent to this meeting, maybe even starting today.
To see if there could be a much longer continuance and maybe even a resolution to this appeal as well. So if we could hear from both of them on the record as to your willingness To appeal, I mean to continue this item to September 4th and to maybe give us an assurance or hope that you guys will continue meeting to try to address this matter further.
Mr. Shatillo?
Thank you Madam Chair, Supervisor Carbajal, members of the board. I'm Mark Shatillo and I represent the appellants Mary Kay. I'm sorry, Martha Kay and her sister Mary Coolsby. And we have been working with Verizon and the owners of the site where the antenna is now, the folks at QAD. Yesterday, the QAD folk agreed that they would extend the existing lease for a short period another 60 days which gives us some additional time to be able to try and find another site.
This is a matter that the community is very concerned about. I know that there's quite a few folks from the community that are here, and I'd like to ask the folks in the audience that are supporting our appeal to raise their hands just to indicate the magnitude of community concern. Thank you very much. And so we're pleased that Verizon has stepped up and has agreed that it may be appropriate to try, that it is appropriate to try and find an alternative site. And our challenge is whether we can find one that can meet the needs of the community and avoid the location that we're finding inappropriate.
So Verizon's attorney whom I've been working with is in transit right now. He may walk through the door at any minute but with me here is Jay Higgins who is Verizon's agent and in discussions with the attorneys We've agreed that, well we cannot at this time find the grounds for a continuance beyond September 4th. At this moment as outlined by Supervisor Carbajal we do support a continuence of this hearing until September 4th and it is our full intention to work closely with Verizon and the community to try and find an alternative location that will allow this matter to be resolved by a mutual agreement and the identification of a more appropriate site So thank you, Supervisor Carbajal for your role in this and Madam Chair for letting us come to you in this manner.
This is Jay Higgins from Verizon.
Mr. Higgins?
Madam
Chair, Jay Higgins representing Verizon Wireless today. The land use process is sometimes rewarding and sometimes it's painful so I I want to just apologize to those that came out today to speak about the project. They may need to come out again to speak, but we are in agreement that the hearing ought to be continued today. We are constrained with regard to our current location at the CUNY facility.
Not knowing whether or not we can continue at the QAD facility, which we currently do not know as of this minute puts us in a position to agree to a continued hearing of only two weeks. We are on record as agreeing to a longer continuance period continued upon us erecting either a temporary site or finding another solution that doesn't require Verizon to go offline in Montecito. Nobody wants to see that happen, I believe so we're working towards mitigating that eventuality and In this process, have in fact tried to be as transparent as possible with the community members and the appellants. Have met several times at the Montecito Land Use Association. Have gone through the county's facilitation process with County Council and the appellants.
I've been to Montecito Planning Commission hearing and all these engagements we do explain that we have been in due diligence in Montecito for five years looking for a suitable property that meets our network objectives, and certain zoning parameters that P&D has codified in their new wireless ordinance. So it's not an easy place to serve. I think you're aware of that based on previous carriers coming to this podium and seeking permits. So don't want to belabor the point but we are trying to make this a transparent process. We will listen to people who would like to suggest alternatives. Unfortunately during that process though Our interest in listening to properties has come off to some people as.
As well, that shouldn't be our job to find you guys properties. We think that should be your job and we'd like to just walk through that process with people if they can bring us properties but like I said, we can agree to a continuance for two weeks. We're not able to modify our shot clock extension or our tolling agreement right now with the county until we have some certainty with regard to QAD site or another temporary facility Like I said, prevents Montecito from going off the air. If I can answer any questions or...
And Mr. Higgins you're going to continue meeting as well in good
faith despite the continuance? This afternoon we have room reserved here which is great. We have all parties together. We can continue to have that dialogue and in the future.
Great and before we get into my colleagues asking a bunch of questions, I'm looking at council if we end up Getting too far out there, we end up having a hearing and we have to allow public comment beyond just what we're going to allow public comment on which is just the continuance. So I'd just caution us on that. Madam Chair?
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All right. Supervisor Wolf?
I do have a question of Mr. Higgins. Supervisor Carbajal, are you suggesting that we don't ask questions
now? No, I'm looking at counsel so that we tread according to their guidelines because there is... We either have the hearing or we don' t and once we start going down a certain road, we may preempt ourselves into having to have not only public input but I'll let our lawyers tell us that. I'm not a lawyer on the continuance and or the broader issues.
As we understand right now there is an issue before your board, a co-recommendation by the applicant and the appellant to continue this item. If your board wishes to consider that motion to continue then the discussion should be limited by the board and by the public only to the issue of a continuance and not any substantive matters underlying the proposals.
Mr. Carball, do you want to make the motion and I'll just make my comment during discussion of the motion?
Okay but then I think that we do have a number of speaker slips here so I do I think have to see whether there's anybody here who just wants to speak to the continuance.
So can we allow anybody who wants to talk on the continuance before I make a motion? Only if you must talk about the continuance. You don't have to, it's just our legal procedure to do that so not encouraged. We'll just stay here another hour or
so. This is not about the merits of the project or the appeal would only be about the continuance.
And my advice is that there That the item has been brought to you. You make a motion, you get a second if one's available and then you allow inputs from the public and then from the board on that motion.
So with that guidance I'll make a motion that we agree to both the plaintiff and the appellant's agreement to continue this hearing through September 4th Which will also allow them to continue meeting on these issues and just continue adhering to September 4th.
I'll second that.
Okay, so we have a motion and a second. Anybody that has submitted a speaker slip for this item that would like to come forward just to speak to the continuance? Okay. Seeing nobody, we'll go ahead and bring it back to the board. Supervisor Wolf?
Yes. So I appreciate that you folks are moving forward to locate or perhaps locate a new site, but I just received this letter from the law firm of McKenzie & Alberton dated August 20th, 2012 indicating the review of alternate sites and one was in Montecito Water District. And in that it says that unfortunately the meeting confirmed that Verizon and the water district are at a complete impasse.
Supervisor Wolf I'm not sure that's within where
we are right now.
Let
me just say the impasse was based on legal and financial terms so I would suggest that when you folks go back out It's what we're talking about is finding another location. I would also suggest based on this, that maybe you need to go back to the places that you already went to and see if you can, if maybe renegotiating the financial terms might allow you to find another location. All
right. We have a motion and we have a second to continue to the meeting of September 4th
Madam Chair, just a point of clarification. This continuance does not change the shot clock so the shot clock will set to expire on September 4th.
All right. Okay. All right, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries so this will be continued to our hearing of September 4th also here in Santa Barbara. Before the board ends our meeting for today I want to see whether we want to close in honor of anybody. Supervisor, those of you that are exiting the hearing room I really need you to do it very very quietly thank you very much.
I'm sorry Ms. Waller did you want to make a comment?
Thank you, Chair. I really just wanted to bring to our citizens' attention, our residents' attention the fact that our Office of Emergency Management has issued a red flag warning and this is due to the fact that we have a front coming in that doesn't have much moisture but does have the potential for dry lightning so We do have the red flag warning. We anticipate that through Wednesday afternoon and just as further information for your board and our residents, we are staffing up our fire department to a higher level of alert so that we can be prepared in the event that there are some dry lightning strikes. Thank you.
Madam Chair, CEO Waller I'm hoping that we can also contact all the other agencies that play a role such as our law enforcement with red flag enhancement to make sure they're going up and down the streets especially high fire hazard areas
Supervisor, we have notified those individuals and I might also add that for those in the public who wish to have additional information. I would suggest they go to nixle.com N-I-X-L-E dot com They can get information there and they can also sign up to receive future alerts such as this But in response to your direction yes, we haven't identified the others
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Okay so supervisor gray
Thank you, Madam Chair. The community of Lompoc suffered a tremendous loss this last week. The community lost Al Walker who truly could be referred to as Mr. Lompoc. I was trying to find the appropriate things to say about Mr. Walker and there's just not, I mean the words just aren't there. Al was a Renaissance man. He brought such care and leadership abilities to Lompoc. He had a great sense of humor, he loved his community. He had cardiac arrest a week-and-a-half ago. They've been trying to save him for the last week-and-a half and he passed last night. So Al Walker, a tremendous loss to Lompoc.
And I'll get you the information Mr. Allen. The agriculture community also suffered a tremendous loss. Dorothy Lane, who was the president of California Republican for Women both locally and statewide. Dorothy was on the Agriculture Advisory Committee. She wrote the agricultural element for the County of Santa Barbara. On a personal level sometimes you hate to get there but I have to on this one She basically, in my words, took me by the nape of the neck and said you are going to do county stuff. You're going to be a part of this ag element. You're going to work in agriculture kinds of things.
She went on to be member of the Santa Barbara County Fair Board. Dorothy was 93 and we lost her this last week so to Dorothy Lane in the Santa Maria Orecott area And to Al Walker in the Lompoc area, tremendous leaders. God bless.
Thank you and then I also would like to close in honor of a Buellton resident Rick Hubbard who was also married to Judy Stauffer long time Valley residents he was very wonderful artist and they were both active in the arts community, community activists very involved in Buellton community issues in particular And just a great, great guy who passed too soon from cancer. So our thoughts and prayers go out to his wife and his family and friends. Thank you. All right. We will be adjourned now until we meet in Santa Barbara again in two weeks on November, excuse me, September 4th. Not yet. September 4. Thank you everybody.
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