BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 October 2, 2012

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:00

Good morning everybody, I'd like to go ahead and convene this regular meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. To order it's October 2nd 2012 and we are now going to go right into closed session Mr. Marshall would you go ahead and read our closed session agenda?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed0:18

Thank you, Madam Chair. You have three items in today's closed session. You have conference with legal counsel anticipated litigation one case. You have conference with real property negotiators. The property is 14450 Terra Vista Drive Gaviota California parcel number 081150034 agency negotiators Bob Nesbitt and Scott McLaughlin negotiating parties Bob Hart and Deborah Hart price in terms of payment Last item is conference with labor negotiators. Thank you Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:50

Thank you and so we'll reconvene here at nine o'clock. ♪♪ Hi, everyone. Yeah. The Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. We actually convened earlier and went into closed session, and now we are reconvening. Mr. Allen would you call the roll please? And because we have two of our board members working with us by remote testimony from the BetterAvia building, Jocentano building, we're going to do all votes today by roll call.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:20

Ms. Gray? Mr. Lavagnino? Here. Mr. Carbajal? Here. Ms. Wolk?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:29

Here,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:29

Ms. Farr?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:30

Here thank you would you all

Pledge of Allegianceceremonial · click to expand · ≈9s recited, not transcribed
UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:31

please rise with me for the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed3:41

America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible

Roll-call vote 0–0 Moved by Janet Wolf · Seconded by Salud Carbajal · 2 under review
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All right, now we need to approve the minutes of our meeting of September 18th. So moved, Madam Chair. Motion by Supervisor Wolfe, seconded by Supervisor Carbajal.

Mr. Allen will have a roll call.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:08

Ms. Gray? Aye. Mr Lavagnino? Aye. Mr Carbajal? Ms. Wolfe?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:15

Aye

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:15

Ms. Farr?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:16

Aye Thank you. Now we'll have a report from closed session. Mr Marshall

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:20

Thank you, Madam Chair. Your board had three noticed items on the closed session agenda. Your board considered each of the noticed items and one action to report and specifically the Board of Supervisors unanimously authorized County Council to file a cross-complaint to recover workers' compensation payments for injured deputy in the matter of the estate of Flood v. County of Santa Barbara.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:46

Thank you. All right, and we'll go to public comment. Mr. Allen, do we have any public speakers?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:53

Madam Chair, we have one request to speak. Dave Daniel Diaz.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:07

Morning, Mr. Diaz

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:07

Good morning. It's a little political. A little while back I went over to the Republican headquarters in San Roque to ask one simple little question and the people there were extremely polite, I was quite impressed and the question I asked was What percentage of the employed staff that Abel Maldonado has are actually voting American citizens? And they kind of scattered and tried to figure things out. They came back to me and said, well he has this great program that allows immigrants to have working permits. And I said that was not the question.

The question was how many Of his employed staff were voting American citizens, and they cannot answer the question. And hopefully before the election they can give us the percentage of which members are voting and. Abel Maldonado is providing working cards for his staff up there, green cards. Maybe Andy Caldwell should get a bus and come down here and get the immigrant workers at the working zone by the homeless center and take them up there so they all get cards so they can extend and get better work because it seems like a form of discrimination that only the immigrants in the North County are having access to working cards through Abel Maldonado.

Have a good day.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:34

Thank you. Our final request to speak on public comment is Richard Robinson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed6:45

Honorable Chairwoman, members. Einstein said that he started the Big Bang. He calls a creator. Unquote. I'm a Republican, 71 years of age. I was born on the campus of former Santa Barbara Superior Court judge presiding court Judge Joseph Lodge. I moved here in 71 My stepmom, Joan Oakley, the Prudential Bass Group. I'm wealthy. Yada yada yada. I choose to be anti-materialistic because of my somewhat...I dismiss it.

Why? Because I'm stupid! I saw affluence I'm a capitalist. The first time I voted, I voted for Barry Goldwater, the GOP. Why? Communism takes over a person's mind when they give up. I hate communism. I was taught to be hardworking, industrious, thrifty, a Christian. I was born, bred, educated and religiously trained to believe. I'm celibate, drug-free, alcohol free.

Smoke-free, gambling free. I don't even buy lotto cards. Why? Because I like being a Christian. Why? St. John the Apocalypse Revelation 21 1 The new heaven and the new earth Life is eternal So as I leave you on this another hot day St. Matthew 64 says one day at a time, don't worry about tomorrow for tomorrow will worry about the things of itself sufficient unto this day is the evil thereof you are facing tremendous obstacles which are one of the best boards of supervisors I've ever seen in my life.

I've been here for 41 years I've never seen such dedication here City Hall It has a lot to do with education, wealth quite frankly. But God is real. He's not a man sitting on a throne on a cloud with a book in his lap taking down our names. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed9:47

Thank you Mr. Robinson. All right and that concludes public comment.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.679:51

Madam Chair?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed9:53

We

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.679:53

have a speaker slip for public comment up here, Mr. David Baskett.

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CommentI'm David BaskettProposedself-stated10:07

I'm David Baskett, a resident of North County. And I just wanted to say a very short word in support of the North County Jail and the great efforts that the Sheriff has gone through to get supervisors to get funding. Actually,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed10:21

I'm sorry Mr. Baskett you

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed10:23

know this is the time to speak on things that are not on the agenda and the jail is on today's agenda it'll be up in just a little while so if you can wait you can speak to the item at that time.

GuestDavid BaskettSheriffProposedself-stated10:34

Be happy to do that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed10:35

Thank you so much All right, Supervisor Lavagnino anybody else there for

public comment?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6710:43

No Madam Chair that's it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed10:44

Thank you all right so we'll bring it back here then and go to the administrative agenda Mr. Allen do we have any changes?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed10:52

Madam Chair members of the board yes we published an addendum on Friday which added or amended three items on today's agenda. First off I just want to note that administrative items A2, A3 and A5 these are three resolutions these will not be presented today they're going to be honorary only. Secondly item A17 on the administrative agenda this is from Public Works Come to the board is the Board of Directors of the Water Agency. The recommendations regarding Amendment No. 1 with DUDEC for Engineering and Administrative Services for the Tank Replacement Project for the Kasmalee Community Services District, and we just wanted to note that this is in the 3rd district and not in the 4th district.

And finally, Item A-23 was added to the agenda. This is from General Services. The request of the Board authorized general improvements to the Lompoc Vets Memorial Building funded by the Lompoc Veterans Memorial Building Foundation and the Lompoc Home Depot and this is estimated at $30,000. One final note on item A13 on your agenda today. If I could just read a minor correction into the record, this item comes to the board from the planning and development department. The request is that the board consider recommendations regarding the Caltrans community-based transportation planning and environmental justice grants contract execution authorization These are in the first and third districts, and recommendation A is amended to read as follows.

Adopt a resolution authorizing the director of planning and development to execute all contract agreements with Caltrans for the completion of grants for one, the Mission Park to Mission Canyon Road multimodal improvements, and two, the Los Alamos pedestrian circulation and parking plan. And those are my corrections Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed12:34

Okay thank you. We have to take a vote, two different votes on the administrative agenda because Supervisor Carbajal you have a conflict on A2 and A3.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed12:50

Thank you Madam Chair. On the advice of Council, Item A2 and A3 are two honorary resolutions requested by the agency where my spouse is employed and as such I have a conflict and have been advised by Council to recuse myself so I'll leave the room at this point as is protocol with these items

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed13:20

All right, so I will entertain a motion on just A2 and A3 at this time. So moved, Madam Chair. Motion from Supervisor Wolfe. The second from somebody in North County? Supervisor Lavagnino. Second by Supervisor Gray. All right, Mr. Allen roll call please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed13:41

Ms. Gray?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed13:43

Aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed13:43

Mr. Lavagnino? Aye. Ms. Wolfe?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed13:46

Aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed13:46

Ms. Farr?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed13:47

Aye, thank you. All right let's get Mr. Supervisor Carbajal back in here he comes all right Yes. Okay, so now let's go to our resolutions to be presented. We have two. The first one Mr. Allen is one that I'm presenting and it's our employees of the month, the child support enforcement team and I see that we have them all here and they're very worthy of this recognition.

So I'm going to ask them to go ahead and all come forward This is an incredible group of people, another group of incredible people that we have in our county that do the work of the county so well week in and week out. And in this case making sure that children are supported in the way they're supposed to be legally. So I'm going to come down and present the resolution. Mr. Allen you can go ahead and read the resolution and all the names of these wonderful people.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed15:10

Madam Chair, members of the Board. This is item A1. It's a resolution of commendation for the Child Support Enforcement Team's Employee of the Month for Santa Barbara County October 2012. Whereas, the Santa Barbara County Child Support Department has just completed a federal fiscal year and has made preliminary tallies of its annual performance suggesting that Santa Barbara will receive honors from the state for exceeding all six of its performance goals.

And whereas the Santa Maria and Santa Barbara enforcement teams that have been essential to that success by organizing teams around their individual strength to make continual improvements in speed and accuracy of service to their 35,000 customers. And whereas the individual strengths of Amanda Gonzalez, Amy Lopez, Ana Chavez, Angela Bevilacqua, Berta Garfias, Blondie Jones, Carlos Quezada, Carrie Lopes, Molly Motley, Grace Aguilera, Jeanette Brown, Jerry Lasuda, Jose Felix, June Dupree, Lisa Tenore, Lupe Patlin, Mario Lopes, Martin Nava, Nadine De Anda, Patsy Lopez, Rosie Castillo, Sally Castanea Padilla, Sarah Hilario, Sharon Amat, Susana Salgado, Suzy Brown and Vivian Wittenbrock have blended together to form three superb teams devoted to collecting Fair Child Support Orders.

Now, therefore it is hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors recognizes the Child Support Enforcement Teams as its October 2012 Employee of the Month. Passed and adopted today.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed17:01

Thank you very much. As this is a significant portion of the department, we're going to get right back to work now. But I will note that we serve 15,000 customers with staff that has been shrinking for a number of years. Not only do we have the very difficult challenging legal work that comes up in family law but we are also dealing with people who are very Hurt and distressed by their family situations. And our staff is not only intelligent, but they're also very compassionate and I'm very proud of them. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed17:35

Thank you. All right, and our second and last resolution that we're going to present this morning is A4. I think Ms. Brush, go ahead and come forward. And this is a resolution proclaiming October 2012 as National Arts and Humanities Month and October 5th, 2012 as California Arts Day. And who better to receive this than our own wonderful Jenny Brush? We're going to go ahead and have Mr. Allen read the resolution, then I'll come down.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed18:17

Madam Chair, members of the Board. This is a resolution acknowledging October as National Arts and Humanities Month and October 5th 2012 as California Arts Day whereas October has traditionally been designated as National Arts and Humanities Month with coast-to-coast collective recognition of the importance of culture in America and designed to encourage all Americans to explore new facets of the arts and humanities in their lives and to begin a lifelong habit of active participation in the arts and humanities And whereas, the Board of Supervisors formed the County Arts Commission in 1977 to support and encourage participation in and access to the arts for all county residents. And whereas through its public gallery exhibitions and dynamic partnerships with art presenters and producers, the Arts Commission provides diverse outreach and education programs to communities throughout Santa Barbara County.

And whereas non-profit arts and culture are a significant industry in Santa Barbara County, one that generates $124 million in total economic activity and supports 3,587 full time equivalent jobs according to the America's for the Arts Arts & Economic Prosperity 4 report released in June 2012. And whereas the County Arts Commission will be participating in the California Arts Council's designated California Arts Day on October 5th to showcase the offerings and contributions of diverse regional arts and cultural organizations in the county. Now therefore it be ordered and resolved that the Board of Supervisors declare October 5, 2012 as California Arts Day honoring artists and cultural organizations for their vital role They play in building community, maintaining and preserving cultural traditions, fostering innovation and enhancing the economy and our quality of life.

Pass it adopted today!

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed20:05

Madam Chair, members of the Board. I just want to take this opportunity to again thank not just the board for their continued support and recognition of the important role that the arts play countywide but I also want to take this opportunity to thank all of the volunteers that are a big part of this infrastructure that we have for art throughout the county. We know great for a long time that the Arts add to our quality of life here I think it's important that we take this opportunity at getting these results from this recent survey to recognize the job, the arts as economic driver for the county.

Santa Barbara County was one of 182 communities that took part in this Americans for the Arts Economic Impact Study completed this last year. I have left with you a handy brochure that has the information nationally, but you can also see that inside we have the very specific contributions of the arts organizations and the impact of their audiences as well and how that affects the community. I think it's important to think of these not just as nonprofits that add so much to enriching our lives but as small business models These are great models because their jobs are local. They spend their money locally, they attract tourists here that spend their money so it's good to start to rethink of a non-profits not just as a very valuable resource but also as an economic driver I wanted to encourage you to come to our Arts and Economic Impact Forum this is the first we've ever done We have Randy Cohen from the Americans for the Arts who will be coming out and giving a detailed PowerPoint presentation on what this means nationally for the arts.

And how they fared in this economic downturn, but also addressing very specifics about Santa Barbara County. We'll also have Kathy Janega-Dykes from the Santa Barbara Conference and Visitors Bureau Tourism and how that's affecting the economy recently, and then also just what they plan to do in terms of working with us to promote arts and culture of the region. So again I thank you for your support and for allowing the arts to thrive in Santa Barbara County. Thank you so much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed22:25

Thank you. And I think that even though this is a governmental building, it's always so nice when I come downstairs and you're in the middle of a reception in that wonderful gallery space that we have. So this building is used for that as well, for the wonderful displays that we have. So thank you for all that you do. Okay. Do we have speakers for other items on the admin agenda, Mr. Allen?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed22:52

I'm sure we have one request to speak on item a 18 from John human. And this item comes to the board from the sheriff. The request that the board consider recommendation during the renewal of contracts with satellite tracking of people for electronic monitoring services

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed23:10

missing human.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed23:14

Thank you Madam Chair and Supervisors of Santa Barbara County. I have one question, what is the legal criteria to place a person under electronic monitoring? Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed23:27

Thank you. Perhaps that's something that the Sheriff can answer later on during his presentation. All right, no other requests to speak. If not... Madam Chair? Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed23:41

This is Joni Gray in Santa Maria. I'd like to speak on A23. All right.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed23:47

Mr. Allen would you read that into the record?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed23:50

Madam Chair?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed23:52

Yes, Miss Supervisor Lavagnino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6723:55

On A20 and A21 as well

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed23:56

please. A20, A21 and then A23 okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed24:04

Madam Chair members of the board First off, item eight, let's go in order. Item A21. A20

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed24:11

and

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed24:13

21? A20 and A21, those come to the board from Supervisor Lavagnino. These are appointments. A 20 is appointment of Steve Hernandez to the Advisory Board on Alcohol and Drug Problems. And A21 is the appointment of Elizabeth Ann Hawley to the Advisory Board on Alcohol and Drug Problems. Okay,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed24:30

Supervisor Lavagnino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6724:33

Even if you want to come up here just for a second, just so people see who you are. I've had so much trouble trying to find folks that would step into this position and I'm just very appreciative Mr. Hernandez is here today. So I just want people to know who he is and just want to let him know how excited I am to have him part of the team and looking forward to some great work. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed25:01

Thank you, and our thanks also to Mr. Hernandez. We appreciate you volunteering in this important role. Thank you for being there.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed25:09

Thank you for having me here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed25:13

All right, and then item A23?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed25:17

Madam Chair, Item A23 is from General Services. The request is that the Board authorize general improvements to the Lompoc Veterans Memorial Building funded by the Lompoc Vets Memorial Building Foundation and the Lompoc Home Depot, and this is estimated at $30,000.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed25:31

Supervisor Graham.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed25:35

Thank you Madam Chair. This is actually a donation that's way, way beyond what it says that it is. Tomorrow 150 volunteers will come to the Lompoc Veteran Memorial Building. They're going to be totally redoing the kitchen which if you've been there you know that in itself is quite a job. I believe that the stove is from 1930-something so we have a whole big job And Home Depot is going to be managing this and also supplying the different kinds of supplies that are needed. There were stacks and stacks of bark where they're going to be redoing the landscaping, Hundreds of plants and just a whole bunch of work's going to go on. It starts tomorrow at 8 AM with the official kickoff, and I'd like to invite people because this is one of those kinds of things where you see a $30,000 gift, and what you're really probably getting is a $200,000 gift of my being just conservative on my guests.

So thank you.

Roll-call vote Moved by Salud Carbajal · Seconded by Janet Wolf approve the balance of the administrative agenda
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Thank you. That sounds like a wonderful effort All right. Any other items to be pulled? Otherwise, we'll go ahead and have a motion to approve the balance of the administrative agenda. Second. Motion by Supervisor Carbajal, seconded by Supervisor Wolf. Mr. Allen, roll call.
UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed27:02

Ms. Gray? Aye. Mr. Carbajal, Ms. Wolfe, Ms. Farb.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed27:11

Thank you that goes ahead and completes our administrative agenda we'll go right into our departmental agenda and at one point it looked like we were going to withdraw this item but somebody wants to speak to it Mr. Heumann is here so why don't we go ahead and read that item into the record and then we'll turn to Public Works

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed27:32

Madam Chair, members of the Board. Item number one is from Public Works. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an appeal of the Hearing Officer decision regarding violations under Chapter 23 Article 3 Abandoned Vehicles.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed27:44

OK. Does somebody from Public Works just want to come forward just to make a couple of comments about where we are with this? And then we'll have Mr. Heumann speak.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed28:01

Good morning, Madam Chair. Last time you saw this item was on August 14th. We did meet with Mr. Hooman on August 21st onsite. We had initially thought that three of the vehicles were inoperable. Mr. Hooman proved that two of the vehicles were in fact operable and he's moved those two vehicles in such a way now that the third vehicle which is inoperable It can't be seen from the public right away. We're not sure about private property, but from our perspective he is in substantial compliance right now with the county's ordinances so that's why we've asked for this item to be removed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed28:38

Okay, so from Public Works' perspective this issue has been solved?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed28:43

It's closed at the moment.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed28:44

It's closed, okay thank you so we just had the one speaker on this item? Yes Madam

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed28:51

Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed28:51

All right Mr. Heumann why don't you go ahead and come to the microphone then

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed28:59

Madam Chair, Supervisor Santa Barbara County thank you for this opportunity. Notice is hereby given this day of October 2nd 2012 that there are violations of the California Penal Code that appear to have occurred as follows section 134 preparing false documentary evidence chapter 13 crimes against elders dependent adults and persons with disabilities subsection 368 section B1 Section 368 subsection C.

These crimes shall become evident through the diligent study of records contained within the written communications between Brad Spencer and John Heumann as related to abandoned vehicle abatement cases, AVA001-2012, AVA002-2012 and AVA003-2011. Attention should be given to the language of special word usage by John Heumann, the victim Which is defined in California Penal Code Section 7, words like knowingly and malice. Due to said county possible conflicts of interest both a state prosecutor and federal prosecutor should without fail as a matter of duty guarantee Brad Spencer is taken to trial before a jury so the people of California as jurors will have an opportunity to evaluate his alleged crimes. Please save all questions for the prosecutors.

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed30:32

All right, Mr. Marshall do we just go ahead and have a motion then to withdraw this item from the agenda or we've already heard it so what action do we need to take?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed30:43

I think if the department's recommendation is still to withdraw it then I would believe that's their position. I think you should just simply have a majority vote to accept department recommendation to withdraw

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed30:57

Okay, that is the motion made by Supervisor Carbajal. Staff's recommendation and we have a second. Second by Supervisor Wolf. Mr. Allen roll call please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed31:08

Ms. Gray?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed31:10

Aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed31:10

Mr Lavagnino? Aye. Mr Carbajal? Aye Ms. Wolfe? Aye Miss Farr? Aye Thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed31:18

All right, we'll go right on to departmental agenda item number two from the Auditor-Controller's office. Mr. Allen would you read that into the record please?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed31:26

Madam Chair and members of the Board, Item 2 is from the Auditor-Controller. It's a hearing to receive and file the County of Santa Barbara's Comprehensive Annual Financial Report and financial highlights for the fiscal year ending June 30th 2012

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed31:40

Madam Chair, members of the board, Theo Filotti, Assistant Audit Controller sitting in for Bob Geist today. I also have with me Betsy Schaefer who is our Financial Reporting Division Manager. Today we're going to present to you our CAFR and our brief slides today will go through our comprehensive annual financial report. And in your packet today, you should have a copy of it. This is what it looks like, the big thick book.

If you don't mind having it ready, we may just refer to a couple pages during the presentation Number one, what is the CAFR? Comprehensive Annual Financial Report. What we're going to also cover is we're going to review some fund balance categories and also we're gonna go through the financial highlights real briefly. We'll do some future governmental accounting standards board pronouncements particularly in regards to the pension which your board had prior questions on and then we'll go through some questions at the end A little bit of background on the CAFR, what is it?

It stems from having the government code requirement for the Board of Supervisors to have our financial statements audited annually. The CAFR itself expands a little bit and provides additional information beyond the financial statements themselves. Our department contracts and administers the contract with an independent CPA firm, Brown Armstrong, to get that audit done.

Just in general over the years, the expanded reporting requirements put on us by the GASB have actually added a lot of complexity to the CAFR itself and you can tell by the thickness of the document. This year for 11-12 we've received an unqualified or clean opinion on our audited financial statements and what that means is that our financial statements are fairly presented in all material respects and they present fairly the financial position of the County of Santa Barbara Next. Just a few highlights, the CAFR itself is broken into three major sections. The introductory section which is a letter of transmittal and some economic data.

The meat of it is the financial section where we have our independent audit report, the financial statements themselves and then the disclosures which are the notes to the financial statements. Additionally there's a statistical section which includes presentation of 10 years of historical data both financial and economic data. Introduced last year was one of the GASBs, GASB 54 which changed the components of fund balance.

What we have this year in our CAFR are fund balances are broken out into these components and now we have two years to be able to compare these couple of changes in the fund balance In the past, we had reserved fund balance. We had designated fund balance and we had unreserved fund balance. Now we have non-spendable fund balance which usually is made up of items that can't be spent long term receivables and reserves that are not allowed to be touched. We have restricted fund balance which is made up of fund balance that has restrictions for spending put on by entities outside of the county whether it be legal or grant requirements Again, outside the county restrictions and then we have committed fund balance where your board has earmarked for specific purposes certain amounts of fund balance.

And then we also have assigned fund balance which is similar to designated just at a lower level and then unassigned fund balances are general fund residual fund balance. I've got a couple Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the board. I've got further detail on the next couple of pages and these are pages 85 and 86 in your CAFR if it's hard to read up here.

But just to point out, we have our non-spendable assets or fund balance here. And then here we have a description of the restricted fund balances what they are and the amounts and then in the particular funds. And probably one to highlight probably here is the largest one which is the flood control district which has a large amount of restricted fund balance because those property taxes can only be spent for that specific purpose The next slide has our committed fund balance and these are the commitments that your board has chosen to set aside. You can see that the majority of them are all in the general fund and that the largest is the strategic reserve, and at June 30 last year that was roughly $22 million.

The next slide takes us to our financial highlights, and that's this document here that you also have in your packet. What that does is pretty much summarizes the county's CAFR and information out of the county's CAFR into a more user-friendly and readable format other than the thick book and the technical wording in the CAFR. Our theme for this year's highlights is emerging growth. And we get that from seeing two consecutive years of growth in our sales tax at both the state level and the local level, and then also two years of continued growth of transient occupancy tax at our local level.

Just another example of this continuing growth is in July, we just received July's Prop 172 distributions from the state and that had an 8% growth just for the month of July. And that is on top of a 9.2% growth that we had in the prior year 11-12. Both these documents are submitted to the Government Finance Officers Association for Certificates of Achievement.

Our CAFR has won the award for 21 years, and our Highlights has won the award for 15 years. These external reviews actually add quality and consistency to our documents and make our products better. I have here a list and it's on page 58 of your CAFR of a number nine, actually nine of them which are GASBs that we will have to incorporate and implement into our comprehensive annual financial report over the next several years. In particular the two highlighted at the bottom, number 67 has to do with financial reporting for pension plans and this is a GASB that SB CSRS will have to implement This is specifically for the plans themselves. And then they will actually implement that out in looks like 15, no 13-14 year and then the subsequent year after that we will implement GASB 68 which is accounting advanced reporting for pensions but on the employer side not on the pension fund itself.

What I have on the next slide is sort of an example of comparing what we have now under GASB 27, which is the current promulgation and then GASB 68 which will be in the future. So for the county pension liability Basically, the liability itself is not reported on the face of the financial statements. Now, the liability is reported in a subsequent area of the CAFR which is the acquired supplementary information. So while it's not on the face this year, in the future when GASB 68 comes into play we will actually put that liability on the face of our financial statements and it will reduce our net assets and I'll have a sample of that for you in the next slide.

And then our county pension expense. Currently, our pension expense is based on a contractually required contribution to SB serves and in the future it'll be a pension. The expense will be based on a proportionate share of total fund expense but right now the expense is the same we are already putting our proportional share of our expense as Gatsby 68 will have us do in the future. We're currently doing that right now.

Here is an example of what the liability would be, and you can see there that for the total pension fund it has 100% of liability. Therefore, the NA, that would be 100%. And the county's estimate based on 63012 or 1011 contributions is we have 91.5% of SB CSRS assets liabilities belong to the county. And then the remaining 8.5% belong to the other special districts that participate in SB CSRS. The expense of the pension, the fund as a whole is $110 million and then our 91.5 percent would be $100 million and that's already reported in our financial statements as an expense.

The effect, your board had asked a couple of questions in a prior board meeting and those were what would be the effect on the net assets of the county of implementing this new GASB 68. And if I could refer you to page 30 of your CAFR, what we have there is the balance sheet for the whole county And it indicates that when we take our liabilities and subtract them for our assets, that we have about $778 million of net assets. And what we would do in the future would be to add this $679 million liability for the pension liability to the liabilities and therefore reduce our net assets of 778 by the 679 and leave us with approximately a hundred million of net assets. So we would still be positive, but it will take a big chunk out of our net assets.

Another question you ask is what's the effect on the budget of this new GASB? And basically there is no effect of the GASB itself on the budget because we already include all of our expense in our financial statements and our budget. And then lastly you'd asked a question about the effect on the bond ratings of this new And the answer to that is there should not be any effect of putting this liability on our balance sheet because we already report the liability in the, not on the face of the balance sheet but in the contents of the CAFR. So the rating agencies already take that liability and the percentage of funding of that liability into consideration when they do our rating for both our annual TRAN and also for any COP issues that we might go out for.

Basically that's it for the presentation. We'd ask that you approve the CAFR and then if you have any questions I'm happy to entertain them.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed43:17

Okay, thank you Mr. Fulani. Supervisor Carbajal and then Supervisor Wolfe?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed43:27

Thank you for this report. It was really well done, easy to follow, easy to read and I think it did a great service not only to us as decision makers but to the public so I want to thank you for your good work and it's always great when we see that the audit did not find any significant findings so that's always music to our ears And I think it also gives us good insight as to the new accounting practices or requirements that are required of public agencies with the CAFR and Gadsby.

And I think it was just very insightful, so I just want to congratulate you on putting together a very good report. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed44:08

Thank you. Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed44:09

Wolf? Thank you Madam Chair. I also want to extend my appreciation to you And thank you for following up on those questions that we had. A particular concern for me and I'm sure the other board members was the bond issue, so thank you for addressing that. I do have a question I wanted to run by you and that's in the report on page 88. This is the retained deficit, the internal service funds specifically the workers comp piece And the balance at June 30th, 2012 shows a deficit of and can you just tell me what that exact deficit is?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed44:59

Chair Farr, Supervisor Wolf. The deficit is as we showed on our other balance sheet it is that the liabilities of the tail claims of the workers comp that we have retained and not transferred to CSAC through their primary insurance coverage. We do not have enough cash in the fund to cover the projected liabilities that the actuary calculates for the claims that are, the tail claims that we have retained and we're trying to eliminate or work down.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed45:33

Okay so when we did our budget because as I recall this information came to us after we did our budget. What I'd like to know, and maybe this is a question for CEO Waller, is where are we now in addressing this deficit?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed45:52

Chair, Supervisor, you may recall that when we were discussing the move of risk management to the CEO's office, we identified this as being one of the issues. Our Budget Director Tom Alvarez has been working with the Risk Management I anticipate that we'll be back to your board in the next month with some proposals on, or with findings of his investigation and some proposals on how we move forward with that closing that deficit.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed46:37

So this number then we are all satisfied that this is the correct number or is it possible that that number may change after the investigation?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed46:45

I think that we need to say based upon what the actuarial believes, that is the correct number. What we're doing is trying to identify if staff is in agreement with that and then actually how we move forward on removing that deficit.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed47:02

Thank you very much. And then Mr. Filotti, you mentioned that our strategic reserve is at $22 million and there's just been some other numbers thrown around. One I heard was that we were at around 30 million. Can you address maybe why we're seeing some discrepancies or what you're basing your 22 million on?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed47:26

Absolutely. What we were, Chair Farr, Supervisor Wolf, what is presented in the June 30-12 CAFR is the balance of the strategic reserve at that point in time $21 million dollars eight hundred twenty one eight or so and then since that time after June thirty the residual fund balance of general fund of about seven and a half million rolled over and as part of the budget adoption Your board said that any residual fund balance and general fund would roll to the, to the strategic reserve. So that is a 12-13 action not an 11-12 action so that seven and a half gets added to the 22-8 to give us that roughly 29-30. So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed48:08

we are, so where we are right now is about the 30 million? Yes. Okay very good thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed48:14

Questions comments from Supervisor Lavinino, Supervisor Gray Before we go to public comment, I did want to ask something that's in the financial highlights. And I just have to say, let me just put in a plug for this document. Any of us that go out into the community and speak, this is a wonderful publication to bring a stack of because it really does provide a lot of wonderful financial information due with the county and the county budget In a very readable way, but because we're always interested in real estate here and property values because of our need for property tax on page 10.

And looking at the chart that you have there that talks about assessed value growth versus property transfer tax and supplemental tax. What are you seeing there? I know that sometimes what the auditor controller's office says might be different than what Mr. Holland might say, so do you have any kind of a unanimous idea of where we're going here with this?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed49:25

Chair Farr and members of the board, what this does indicate is that the property transfer tax here on this chart at June 30 through During that period of time, there was a slight uptick. And I believe if we spoke with the assessor now that we would see that property transfer tax and the number of transactions are on a bit sharper increase just in sheer volume and also in dollar volume. And so typically it has been in the past a leading indicator of where the secured property taxes might go or will go.

In the past, we've had some relatively sharp increases. It is our hope that we're at the bottom and that we do start to see an increase now although we believe it will be a much flatter increase or less inclined increase than we have seen in the past.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed50:19

Okay, thank you All right. If there are no other questions or comments from the board, why don't we go to public comment? Why don't we go to Santa Maria first? Supervisor Lavinino, Supervisor Gray, what speakers do we have there?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6750:35

Madam Chair, we have Mr. Andy Caldwell.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed50:39

Mr. Caldwell.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed50:41

Madam Chair, members of the Board. As you know I was the person that raised some of these questions at the last hearing and I thank the Auditor-Controller's Office for getting back but I'm not sure either I don't understand or they didn't answer the actual question. The bottom line is I've done a number of radio shows over the last few months whereby we Covered the story that Moody's who is one of the three big credit rating agencies Has announced newer rules that we're going to be effective on September 1st That will bring an additional dose of reality To the size of the funding gaps in public pensions and specifically your board opted to reduce their investment return A little bit, but the retirement board didn't follow through. Moody's wants you to go a whole lot farther than you were willing to do.

As you know way back when the investment returns on the pensions were supposed to be in the 8%-9% range. You lowered yours or we're going to lower yours to slightly less than 7%. Moody's is recommending that you lower them to be between 4% and 5%. And they're gonna hold government accountable for this more realistic return on pension investments. And so what does that mean?

It means that, for instance, funds that claim to be 75% funded are really only gonna be 50% funded and you're gonna have to make up the difference almost immediately. And I just don't see your county responding to this. And we would like again, to ask what does Moody's decision and we think the other ones are going to follow suit because of what's happening across the country. What's gonna happen when they say that for your credit rating you had better be Planning and forecasting based on a four to five percent return on pensions, not seven or eight percent.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed52:57

Thank you Mr. Caldwell. Supervisor Lavagnino do we have any other public speakers in Santa Maria?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6753:06

I don't believe so, Madam Chair. I think that's it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed53:07

Okay. Thank you. So any others here?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6753:10

No, Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed53:12

All right. Thank you. Mr. Filotti, did you want to respond to anything that Mr. Caldwell said?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed53:20

Chair Farr and members of the board, Mr. Caldwell is correct in what the rating agencies are looking at but what we presented today are the Governmental Accounting Standards Board's promulgations of how to present the financial statements Again, the rating agencies if they chose to do their own calculations with an assumed rate of a lower rate than the assumed rate that the pension fund was using then that would be something that they already have the information to take into consideration and you know that is totally independent of what's presented in the financial statements.

Roll-call vote Moved by Janet Wolf · Seconded by Salud Carbajal
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Okay thank you. All right, if we have no other public speakers we'll bring it back to the board. This is a receive and file. We have a motion? Madam Chair I move that we receive and file this report. Motion by Supervisor Wolf, seconded by Supervisor Carbajal. Mr. Allen?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed54:17

Ms. Gray?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed54:19

Aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed54:19

Mr Levin, you know? Aye. Mr. Carbajal? Aye. Ms. Wolfe? Aye. Ms. Farber?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed54:25

Aye, thank you the board's going to take a break until 10 o'clock allows the Sheriff's Department to set up for our last item and then we will be back for agenda item number three. Would you read that into the record please?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed54:39

Madam Chair members of the board item 3 is from the sheriff It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the decision to accept an $80 million AB 900 Phase 2 Conditional Award and direction to keep proceeding with the Northern Branch Jail Project. This is in the 4th District.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed54:55

Good morning Sheriff.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed54:57

Good morning Madam Chair, members of the Board and thank you. Before I begin the formal part of my presentation today, I want to take a moment to thank some people who were responsible for getting us to where we are today. President Ronald Reagan once said that there's no limit to what a man can achieve if he doesn't mind who gets the credit. And it is in that spirit that I want to thank and acknowledge my predecessors, Sheriffs John Carpenter, Jim Thomas and Jim Anderson for their efforts to build a North County Jail over the years.

I also want to thank the members of the county family who have worked so closely with us in this endeavor The CEO's office, the auditor controller and treasurer tax collector. The county council's office and in particular Mike Gazzone and general services and especially Grady Williams who is assigned to this project. I also want to thank my outstanding team from the sheriff's office under Sheriff Jim Peterson, Chief Deputy Don Patterson Custody Commander Jenny Sams. Custody Lieutenant James Meter, the volunteer Aero Squadron pilots who flew me to Sacramento on more trips than I care to remember in order to secure state funding for this project and last but by no means least Tom Jenkins who has been so dedicated to this project that he has come back to us from retirement to lend his considerable expertise and talent to making this a reality We're here today because of the hard work of many people and I feel very blessed to have them all on our team.

Let me begin today by giving you some historical background. Now, you've heard much of this if not all of this before so I will be brief with this but I think it's important to put into context what we will be asking you for today and to give the viewing public an understanding of what has preceded all of this Santa Barbara County has had a lack of jail capacity for more than 30 years.

The problem has grown steadily over time and it is now more pronounced than ever. The problem grew to such a degree that the Superior Court ordered a cap on the population in our main jail in 1990, and that's a correction from the earlier slide that you received. We had several court orders about early release. The actual cap order was in 1990. For many years, the impact of overcrowding has been that many prisoners never make it to jail in the first place and many others must be released before they finish their sentences.

The net result is a degrading of the criminal justice system, an increase in crime, and an unacceptably high rate of recidivism. Over the years more than 20 grand juries have made recommendations to the county to add jail capacity by building and operating another jail in the North County. In the year 2000, Sheriff Jim Thomas and the Board of Supervisors placed U-2000, a half cent sales tax measure that would have funded a new jail on the ballot.

It went down to defeat at the polls. That funding option went away but the need for the jail remained for the next six years. I ran for office promising to work to resolve jail overcrowding and to put together a Blue Ribbon Commission to study the problem and make recommendations to your board. That commission was established in 2007, my first year in office, and this group of subject matter experts studied the problem for the better part of a year and issued their final report and recommendations in 2008.

In that report, the commission's first recommendation was the building of a North County Jail. Unfortunately, the county did not have a plan to fund the jail and the global economic downturn that occurred later that year made matters much worse. In 2008 we applied for and subsequently received a $56.3 million state AB 900 grant to build a new jail. In 2010, we put together another ballot initiative, Measure S, in an attempt to fund the 25% match that the county was required to provide with that grant as well as providing operational funding for the jail and other public safety needs.

But again, the measure was voted down. Feedback from those in opposition to Measure S indicated that there was strong support for the building and operation of a new jail but citizens wanted it done with existing tax revenues. That's where we were in 2010 and then along came AB 109 criminal justice realignment which changed the face of corrections in California In order to meet a U.S. Supreme Court decision ordering the state to reduce its prison population by more than 30,000 inmates, the state shifted the responsibility for housing and supervising many so-called non-serious, non-violent, nonsexual felons to the counties.

Previously there was a one year limit on sentences that could be served in a county jail. Under AB 109 there is no limit other than a life sentence. That means that many of our AB 109 inmates will be housed in our facilities for many years to come. This legislation and shift in corrections practice worsened the already difficult position we were in. To give you an idea of the impact, we have had a total of 772 AB 109 inmates pass through our jail since October 1st of 2011.

Since that time, we have released 614 of those inmates. The state had estimated that after full transition, the Santa Barbara County Jail would have a need for 125 AB109 inmate beds in our jail Today with seven months remaining until full implementation, we already have 158 AB 109 inmates in our custody. And we're not alone. Sheriffs around the state are reporting a 20 to 30% increase over the original projections.

Despite holding great promise for positively reforming our system in the future, and I truly believe that it does, AB 109 has nevertheless exacerbated the overcrowding problem and made the need for a new jail more pressing and more acute than ever. And the state prison system is still overcrowded, and the Supreme Court wants the population numbers to go down even further.

That means that more criminal offenders will ultimately be released or diverted from state prison, and it's safe to assume that a percentage of them will wind up in our county where they will become our problem. In 2007 the Blue Ribbon Commission agreed With a study that showed a projected need of 800 additional beds in the jail by the year 2020, absent any significant investment in any re-entry related prevention and intervention services.

AB 109 pushes that need even higher. The Blue Ribbon Commission believed, and we still believe, that we can reduce the number of jail beds ultimately needed by continuing and expanding The continuing expanding intensive supervision practices, drug treatment and other intervention education and a variety of alternative to custody sanctions that we have been using in our county for many years.

Nevertheless there remains a need for a base level of custody beds and we are currently well below that need and that level By the way, I think now is probably a good time to insert the gentleman who had asked that question earlier and you wanted a response about electronic monitoring. That is one of the alternative custody sanctions that we administer and it is typically used for sentenced inmates and select pre-sentenced inmates who have been screened with an evaluatory instrument and that shows that they would have a low likelihood of recidivism, particularly violent recidivism if they're released into the community.

This next slide will go over an overview of the current situation in our jail. Currently, our jail system has 788 rated beds. This does not include our small Santa Maria Branch Jail that has only 28 rated beds which is now only open during the evening hours as a booking station. The average daily population system-wide in September was 1,023. And the high on September 11th was 1,081. This means that we are operating at 130% of the design capacity of our current jail and that's also a correction from your earlier slide it was actually up from the original number then when we put the slides in We should be running at approximately 85% of capacity.

That's because some inmates cannot be mixed together, and for that reason a jail is normally not completely full. Some reasons for that include rival gang factions, inmates that are mentally ill, medically infirm or contagious, or it could be that someone needs protection from other inmates. Each of these situations requires putting inmates in cells that may have more than one bed but not allowing the other bed or beds to be filled.

The so-called medium security facility in our jail system is not designed for the level of inmate that it currently houses. It was designed and built in 1961 as the Honor Farm, a place where petty criminals who were not dangerous and required minimal supervision were housed in dormitories It is made predominantly of wood and it is secured via a perimeter fence.

Today, petty criminals like the ones this facility was designed for never make it to jail in the first place. And this facility is instead used to house medium level offenders such as drug dealers, burglars and parole violators. Although designed as a misdemeanor facility, the overwhelming number of inmates currently housed in the MSF are felons. Our total population breakdown between sentenced and unsentenced is out of balance as well.

We currently have 76% of the people in our jail pre-sentence, they're awaiting trial and awaiting sentence then by the court. And 24% who are sentenced by the court. That mix really truly should be about 50-50. The mixture between felonies and misdemeanors is also significantly out of whack. Of the people in our jail now, 83% of them are felons and 17% are misdemeanants.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:06:17

Excuse me, just a moment. Supervisor Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:06:19

Thank you Madam Chair. Sheriff I'm sorry to interrupt you. I just wanted to ask a question on the medium security facility. So how many beds are in that facility?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:06:33

285 and that's broken down between male and female beds.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:06:37

Okay thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:06:41

This next slide, the impact of jail overcrowding document some of the things that we have to deal with as a result of the overcrowded jail system. First and foremost is, as I've mentioned, the early release of inmates or the fact that inmates can't be put into jail in the first place. We also have an increase in crime that occurs in the community. This was personified in 2006 when a discharged inmate shot and killed a man on Islay Street in Santa Barbara within hours of his early release from the Santa Barbara County Jail.

Since realignment, early releases have increased by 22%. Our local crime rate is also on the increase since the implementation of prison realignment. We also have as a result of overcrowding increased risk to staff and to fellow inmates. The overcrowding limits the ability to use flash incarceration which is an important tool in the rehabilitative process And overcrowding limits our ability to provide vocational, educational and life skills training to inmates. Training and education that will give them the tools and the opportunity to become more successful once they re-enter the community.

Overcrowding also increases our hard costs such as food, clothing, materials, medical and mental health treatment And we also firmly believe that higher rates of recidivism occur as a result of the early release of inmates who are ill-prepared and pushed out back into society.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:08:18

Just a moment, Sheriff. I'm sorry. Supervisor Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:08:20

Sheriff, you talked about an increase in crime in the community subsequent to realignment Is that, can you be more specific on what you're referring

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:08:33

to? Yes I can Supervisor Wolf. What I'm about to give you are statistics that are comparing two quarters the last quarter of 2010 and the first quarter of 2011 with the last quarter of 2011 and the first quarter of 2012 pre-AB109 and post AB109 implementation And this is for crimes that occur within the jurisdiction of the Sheriff's Office, both our contract cities and our unincorporated areas. In the first instance before AB 109 was initiated there were 1194 total part one crimes that occurred in our jurisdiction.

Two quarters, we had 1503. That breaks down for an 8.974% increase in violent crime and a 28.3% increase in property crime. And I could go into some more detail if you want but that I think gives you a snapshot. Well it

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:09:45

does and I appreciate that. Is there a way to know if these are 109ers?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:09:50

We obviously would have to go and study it further in terms of directly correlating it, but I think it's safe to assume that if we have more people being released from jail into the community that a percentage of those crimes are perpetrated by those people.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:10:07

Okay, but we don't know that? We're just making that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:10:08

assumption? As in any study of that sort, it would require a lot more study than we're able to do just by looking at the numbers. But we have seen this increase in crime which we believe is connected to AB1.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:10:19

All right, thanks.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:10:23

All of these jail overcrowding impacts are situations that my predecessors and I have had to struggle with. And frankly although I understood before I was the sheriff the seriousness of the problem, I really didn't understand the intricacies or the magnitude of it nor do I believe anybody could until they became or become the sheriff. Having the responsibility to balance the public safety needs of the citizens who elected me to office with the safety of my staff and the inmates in my charge, coupled with the requirements of a standing court order to limit the jail population. And coupled with economic downturns and realities that we've all had to face creates a conflicting and complex set of problems for me, for you, and for our county.

But even though the problems are chronic and convoluted, there are some basic steps we can and must take now to start solving them. The most important and pressing of these is the building once and for all of a new jail facility in our North County. We have been working diligently and creatively to that end for the past several years. And I now want to review with you the actions that we've taken on this project today.

As you will recall, we were last before you on December the 6th of 2011. At that hearing, you approved my recommendation to relinquish our $56.3 million AB 900 Phase 1 grant award that would have covered 75% of the eligible capital cost for the jail in order to apply for a more favorable $80 million award that would pay for roughly 90% of the cost of the Northern Branch Jail.

During that process, we modified the scope of the project from a 304-bed jail to a 376-bed jail that included 32 medical and mental health beds. The reason for that expansion was AB 109 which as I indicated previously had not been anticipated and was not on our radar during Phase 1. On March 15, 2012 the Correction Standards Authority notified us of a $60 million partial conditional award.

On July 1st, the Correction Standards Authority was reformed as the Board of State and Community Corrections. Through discussions with the former CSA and the new BSCC With the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, with the Governor's Office and with members of the legislature. We were successful in getting the state to pass a piece of legislation that reallocated the $56.3 million we had relinquished in our phase one grant to be reissued in phase two within the medium security, within the medium county rather category.

The result of that was that on July 26 at its very first meeting the Board of State and Community Corrections awarded us an additional $20 million conditional award to complete our original request for the full $80 million dollars in state funding towards our project. The project must be approved by the Board of State and Community Corrections and the State Public Works Board at various stages.

The county will enter into various agreements with the state during the AB 900 process, and ultimately lease revenue bonds will be sold by the state to finance the construction of the new jail. AB 900 requires that the county meet strict milestones and deadlines throughout the financial process. And the state has actually made it very clear that they're going to be holding us far more accountable at this stage with the new grant terms than they were on the old one.

Conditions for the award include providing site assurance, which has been done by our acquisition of the property at Black and Bed Arabia Roads. Providing real estate due diligence, which has been completed. Preparing CEQA, which has been done. Establishing the project with the State Public Works Board, today's actions will identify the source of the county's cash match to begin the process with the State Public Works Board.

We plan to return to you on October 16 for approval of the Project Design and Construction Agreement and the Board of State and Community Corrections Construction Agreement. We need to submit schematic design for the facility no later than November of 2013, and that's one of the reasons it's really driving us moving forward on this now. And we must safely open and operate the facility by the spring of 2018.

Here you can see an overhead view of the jail as it might look once designed and constructed on our property. The top of the photograph is north orientation. You can see Betteravia Road acting as the northern boundary and Black Road, which is to the east of that facility. This is just sort of an artist concept. This is not necessarily what the actual facility will look like when it's completed but it can give you at least an idea of what could happen there.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:15:42

Sheriff, I actually had a question as long as you have this up. I know when we spoke before, we talked about the fact that this proposed facility only takes up a portion of the overall site and so the balance of the site might be open to other uses either ancillary to the jail population or some other kind of commercial use. It might be revenue producing. I noticed on page three of the staff report it says that we're going to have to go back and do a ground lease with the state.

So maybe you could speak to that, is the ground lease for the whole property? Is the ground lease just for where the jail is situated and what kind Restrictions might that place on the county's ability to utilize the rest of the site?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:16:40

I believe that the short answer to that is that the ground lease would apply to the footprint of the jail itself and then the curtilage or the area around the jail. That would include things like parking lots and collection pools, wells, that sort of thing as well but I'm going to defer that to Deputy County Counsel or Assistant Deputy County Counsel Mike Gazzone to respond

GuestWolfeProposed · by introduction1:17:03

Madam Chair, Supervisors. When the Sheriff comes back later this fall they'll be with two primary agreements, the Project Delivery and Construction Agreement and its attachments and then what's called the BSCCA, essentially the funding document that goes with that. One of the attachments to the Project Delivery and Construction Agreement is this 50-year ground lease that, as the Sheriff stated, essentially is underneath the footprint of the jail facility but also includes language promising to grant utility easements across the site. So there will be an impact for that but we discussed Within the project team, ways to locate those so that they're underneath a road or otherwise not encumbering the property.

But the format for this is a series of seven different related documents and the project delivery and construction agreement is the primary parent document that will have four or five different... A ground lease, a right of entry for construction, a site lease, and then the county will actually receive back from the state a facility sublease Actually operate the jail for this 50-year term

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:18:18

Sounds pretty complicated I'm assuming that this property is going to be served by what Laguna sanitation and the water district. That's there

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:18:34

That really has not been decided yet we would have to move forward with the drilling of some experimental wells, for example to see if the Capacity was there to do it. There are two options basically, Laguna Sanitation or to go off the utilities that are existing on Better Avia Road so That's part of the process of moving forward and actually spending some money on this project is to determine exactly which way we would go with them

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:19:00

Okay because I'm just thinking if you're getting into septic and wells and things that that's all infrastructure that would have to be Accommodated onsite and that's a lot for facility like

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:19:10

it would one way or another it's gonna have to be built Whether it's the infrastructure is somewhat self-contained on the site or through Laguna Sanitation, or whether we use other utility. Okay thank you. This next slide shows you the capital project costs and breaks them down. The total project estimate to build this facility is $96.1 million dollars The eligible costs, in other words cost that would be deemed eligible to be reimbursed by the state are 91.4 million and the ineligible costs are 4.7 million. A couple of distinctions here, the 91.5 million is what might be eligible but obviously the maximum amount that we can be reimbursed for is 80 million.

I want that to be clear. I also wanted to be clear that the $4.7 million in ineligible costs is predominantly the additional cost of the land that we purchased on that 50-acre site that would not be devoted to the jail itself. The amount that's already been paid also includes some architectural consulting, and then the amount already paid or budgeted at 6.4 incorporates those land costs as I indicated, as well as transition team costs.

When we build this jail, we're going to have to hire and train a workforce for it in advance of the actual opening of the facility. We're also gonna have to have staff obviously dedicated to the planning and shepherding of this project as it goes forward. Those transition costs are part of that $6.4 million. As I said, the state award amount would be 80 million which leaves a county portion remaining that needs to be funded of 9.7 million dollars.

Now the reason that the $9.7 million differs from the match amount is that we are only showing the minimum state requirement to secure the $80 million award in the match requirement. This method provides the least exposure to the county if we are able to realize any savings in the project. The county budget is based upon the overall cost of the project, while the state's budget is based solely on the eligible costs.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:21:25

Actually, yeah. I also have a question. Excuse me just a moment. Supervisor Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:21:29

Thank you. Thank you Sheriff. So just to be clear then the first amount, the 8.8 funding is what you're asking for us to approve today per the resolution but from what you're telling us we, the county will have another subsequent obligation of about What did we figure? 900,000. 900,000 to meet the actual cost. Correct. And so when will this board have the opportunity to talk about that piece?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:22:05

The additional $900,000? Yes. What we're actually proposing is that we utilize Prop 172 funds within the sheriff's budget to make up that difference. We would be using 600,000 in the resolution that you would be telling the state today would be used for it but then in years two and years three we would put another six hundred thousand in each year from the Sheriff's 172 account into the overall fund so it would be made up for with that money Prop 172 monies.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:22:37

So when and maybe this is a CEO question when does that come back to us for action You know, we kind of have that in our hands or we have that obligation confirmed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:22:52

Chair, supervisors, we would anticipate doing that during your annual budget process and what we have asked the sheriff and he is providing today is his verbal commitment to support the board if they were to choose to use Prop 172 for that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:23:10

Okay thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:23:12

Thank you, and Sheriff. I just wondering how this fits into this point in the discussion on page 9 It says that of the 80 million the state is going to withhold 5% So I guess about 4 million until after it's all built And they've audited that we've done everything that we're supposed to do so where does the four million dollars come from in the interim?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:23:35

Well, all of the state money is actually reimbursed money to us. We actually front the cost and then we get reimbursed by them. So what we're proposing is that we'll use this initial amount of money that we're pledging from the, as we're going to get to in a moment, from a combination of the existing jail operations account This prop 172 money and we'll basically use that funding initially. And then once the reimbursement process starts, then a cash flow will occur where that money will be coming back. And at one point, we will be $4 million at the end. We'll have $4 million withheld until we have the facility up and running. And then that ultimately will be brought back to us. As far as the actual mechanics of that you might want I don't know if my staff has any more comments or if there's something that auditor controller might want to talk about, but it's a cash flow mechanism that I think is pretty standard in this type of situation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:24:39

Mr. Martin, did you want to say something?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:24:42

Yeah, and we will actually get to some of that in the presentation. I think that you'll answer some of those questions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:24:49

All right and then just to satisfy the audit does it have to be a hundred percent occupied at the time of the audit?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:24:57

Yes well there's some question about that Our plans is that it will be 100% occupied.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:25:03

No, I know what you want. I'm just wondering what the requirements

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:25:06

are? You know in my discussions with the state and with CDCR and bear in mind these are verbal discussions we don't necessarily have this in writing If the county is committed to and making this process work, there were some assurances given to me that there could be a delay as long as it was opened and operational. And we were working towards it working in full capacity. But the reality is we would have a brand new facility that we would want to use. And if we are going to not use, and indeed we're going to propose not using a portion of our jail system, it would be the antiquated portion of our current jail system Not use rather than this new facility and really the spirit of what the state is doing.

Is they don't want taxpayer money spent on a facility that's going to be a mothballed until a future day it you know they want this facility to be utilized once it's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:26:01

built. Thank you supervisor Carvajal

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:26:04

thank you madam chair. The match itself 8.9 I know it's. I went ahead and looked at the slides, and I didn't see what is already in our staff report. The identified sources where the actual match would come from. But these are the capital project match. And I guess I have a question for CEO Waller and yourself as well, Sheriff Brown. When will we the county have an opportunity in this process to substitute those sources of funds for possible issuance of COPs, which is the traditional public sector issuance of debt for capital projects.

And I guess I want to be sure that we're going to have that opportunity Get those reserves back and go the traditional approach for the county share.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:27:05

Let me just state, Supervisor Carbajal that if you can just hold that thought for just a moment we're going to get to that in just a moment it might be a better spot to discuss it after I've given you some additional information. It's not gonna be my recommendation to you but I'd like you to at least hear what I have to say before we actually discuss and get into the nuts and bolts of I would like to begin by thanking the board of supervisors for Over what we would have had to have matched on phase one and it will increase the amount of state funds that are received for this project. 25% on the old one, 10% under the new one. The state requires that we identify and show them the source of our cash match.

We provide them with evidence of a balance of available cash and the cash match resolution accomplishes this step. There are three possible funding options for this cash match. One is all cash, one is all debt or a blend of the two. The Debt Advisory Committee recommended that you consider funding the project with a combination of existing resources and that would be various options that you have including the $3 million that's already set into our jail operations account My recommendation is that we use the all-cash option.

We can use the $3 million that has already been set aside in the jail operations designation, we can use $600,000 from the Prop 172 designation towards the state match and then an additional two years of $600,000 for the Delta or the differences we talked about before as Supervisor Wolf asked about. And then the balance of approximately $5.5 million would need to come, or at least I would propose come from the strategic reserve.

If we do that, the county and the taxpayers will save a total of six million dollars over the life of this project, the interest charges that we would be paying over the 20-year life of COPs if we were to take them out. We know that as we work with the state on what they need, we will get in-kind credit for some expenses already incurred. Like the land under the footprint of the facility currently estimated at $602,000 and we think that number will probably go up once the facility design is complete and shows the actual amount I would like to begin by saying that we are committed to a strategic reserve. The amount of strategic reserve we are targeting would be reduced in that case.

This would also happen as more funds are put into the operations account and as we apply additional Prop 172 funds for the next two years. To sum up, what we need to do today is show the State that we have the cash on hand to complete our match obligation. And I'll just deviate from my notes here for a moment to just say that although we're providing that assurance today, there's nothing that says that two years or three years from now if you want to revisit this and look at utilizing a portion of that cash match as debt. We will have that option.

There are some nuances that are preventing us from doing it today. And those nuances relate to some advice from bond counsel, that basically says we couldn't partition money off now saying that we were going to spend COPs. There are two things that affect the COPs. One is that they have to be spent within three years of drawing them, and we have a five-year project here so we can't draw them down immediately because we won't be spending all of that money within the first three years.

The second is the tax-free nature of the COPs. The bond council has advised us that if we were to designate those, that is our strategy now that it would imperil the tax free nature of that. That's not to say you couldn't Utilize some other funding mechanism if you wanted to which you could but it would conceivably have a higher interest rate And you wouldn't be able to offer that as a tax-free COP So I've probably thoroughly confused you now, but that basically is

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:32:03

Supervisor Carbonell

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:32:05

I'm crystal clear. Okay. I think as I understand this you're basically saying You recommend we don't consider that option There's some challenges to that. But today you're just asking us to provide these sources of funding to provide the official match so that we could move forward But it does not negate the Board of Supervisors to consider those challenges you mentioned in making a determination whether we do want to use COPs or not.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:32:34

That is correct and it wouldn't be, I'm not going to mislead you if we were to do that we would have to get concurrence from the state on that at the appropriate time. I suspect that we would be able to do that if we wanted to do that but I'm gonna just The recommended action today is found at E, which uses the term preliminarily identify the funding. So

GuestWolfeProposed · by introduction1:32:55

that the county is not, the board is not actually doing a budget revision or encumbering this, you're preliminarily identifying this funding. When the item comes back to the board there will be exhibits to the project delivery and construction agreement that go into more detail as to where this funding is coming from but even then you would not be giving up the option to pay either pay cash or pay with debt although the discussion has been about COP's it does not preclude you from using any form of debt taxable or tax exempt

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:33:39

I'm sure if I could just conclude and Sheriff Brown, I don't mean to be argumentative. I think it's good that you're cautioning us on those challenges and I think that if it doesn't work out so be it but it's nice to know that we have that option to consider that as something down the road especially when you consider that we've been trying to build our reserve and this would take a good bite out of that. So that's the only reason I say that and I wanted that assurance and I appreciate that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:34:04

absolutely This next slide documents the project timelines and milestones that have to be completed. The Board of Supervisors' project approval would be today, and then also on October 16th when we anticipate coming back to you with the Project Delivery and Construction Agreement and the Board of State and Community Corrections construction agreement that are currently with the state going through their process.

Schematic design would have to be completed This says July. It's actually November of 2013, I believe. I don't know how we got July in there. It's November of 2013 when schematic design would need to be completed. An operations and staffing plan approved by the BSCC and then approved by the Board of Supervisors would have to be completed by March of 2014. Construction documents finished by September of 2014 bid opening would be in April of 15, groundbreaking July of 2015. Construction would then occur from July through December of 2017 and then within 90 days of the completion of construction we would have the requirement to safely open and operate the facility.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:35:22

Sheriff, I was wondering earlier you said and it's also in the staff report that you wanted to start hiring staff in 15-16. Now that's two full years ahead of the budget year where we would need to have approximately 17 million dollars in new operating money The bulk of the staffing would come in the year preceding the opening of the jail.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:36:01

But two years or so before that, we would be hiring people who would be accomplishing the hiring. People that would be doing the background investigations for example. We have to backfill to get those. We would have to really gear up our operation and human resources to prepare for this, for example. And also it covers the people who would be assigned to the development and the shepherding of this project as well. So it's kind of a strung out amount, the bulk of which would be immediately preceding the actual year that we would open the facility.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:36:37

Okay so when the staffing plan comes in March of 2014, that's going to outline all of that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:36:47

Yes it will but we may give you...we've had some indicators before then I think particularly in terms of project staff assigned to this project.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:36:55

Okay. So you have to hire new staff, you can't do the hiring with existing staff?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:37:02

We would want to augment... we would be using largely a lot of our people but we would wanna augment some staff as well in that process.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:37:12

Supervisor Wolf.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:37:14

Thank you Madam Chair just to follow up on that and to clarify It's, so it's my understanding then that this new jail will have 376 beds. But there has been discussion about closing that medium security facility which as you mentioned has 285 beds but that you are expecting a net increase in beds of 187. So the new North County Jail we will see a net increase of 187 beds.

And as that relates to staffing, as I understand it, that some of the staff that would normally have been at the medium security facility will be moved up to the new jail. Hence reducing some of the staffing costs.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:38:10

Chair and Supervisor Wolf, you're right and if you can just hold that thought for a second. I think it's the next

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:38:15

page.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:38:15

Yeah coming up they'll show and we'll document in detail that for you but you're right. Now let's look at the most difficult part of the project, the ongoing operational cost of the new jail. We estimate that to open the new jail and absorb all of its capacity if we were to do that into our custody system on day one, it would cost approximately $20.5 million in 2018-19 dollars.

That would be for the Sheriff's operations costs, salaries and benefits for the employees and the services and supplies that go along with the facility. We recognize that is a pretty awesome number and what we are proposing to you is to reduce that amount by shifting 23 of our existing staff positions to the new facility and repurposing the medium security facility.

In that scenario, the Sheriff's costs are estimated at $16.6 million dollars And as you can see, this would reduce the Sheriff's operational costs by roughly $3.8 million in 2018-19 dollars. It will also allow us to stop using the medium security facility which is the most antiquated and unsafe portion of our custody system. We believe that MSF could be repurposed for use as a day reporting center or for other prisoner based educational or vocational needs.

It should be noted that we believe all of these cost figures are high. And that's because the actual costs will be reduced significantly as a result of AB 340, the new pension reform law that was recently passed in the legislature and signed by the governor. The county will be paying reduced pension benefits for all of the staff who will be hired to work in this facility.

Now, unfortunately we've not been able to get you any projected figures from the retirement system since the new actuarial studies that will give us that information have not yet been completed but it's safe to assume that these numbers will be substantially reduced as a result of the reduction in actual pension costs to the county.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:40:37

Sheriff, just to follow up on what Supervisor Wolf asked. My understanding is that we have to have 187 new slots in the North County Jail and so if we have 285 people now in the medium security and we want to totally move all All that so we can close that and repurpose that. Given today's numbers, we're going to take up more of the capacity than I think legally we're supposed to, right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:41:09

No. We would be achieving an increase of 187 rated beds. The 285 beds that we currently have in the medium security facility do not meet The title 15 standards and we have a rated amount in the MSF of 161. So it's the 161 rated beds that we have talked about with the state and which they have come to an understanding with us that the expectation is that we have 187 net gain in rated beds.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:41:47

Okay, I guess I don't understand the difference then between the rated beds and the actual capacity with people?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:41:54

We have a certain amount of space, we have a certain number of beds. The state standards say that we should have X number of beds in that space. That's the rated number of beds that we have. We put more beds in that space because we have more prisoners than we have facility to accommodate. That additional, the delta between the rated beds and the actual number Physically that are in there. That is the difference of beds that are not rated, that do not meet Title 15 standards.

As I said to you earlier we have 788 rated beds in our jail system We have over a thousand prisoners in our jail system because we don't have enough rated beds in our facility Because of the of the outward crowding situation

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:42:47

OK, well I don't know. Mr. Gazzone can you speak to this?

GuestWolfeProposed · by introduction1:42:53

Madam Chair, Supervisors agree with the Sheriff's math. The request for application, the application essentially what the county submitted described building a 376 bed facility and explicitly called out a plan to replace 28 rated beds in the Santa Maria Branch Jail and 161 rated beds in the Medium Security Facility. So those two subtractions take it down to 187 net new rated beds

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:43:25

Okay. Well, you understand my concern because we are looking at a number that's assuming that we're going to have this cost savings from entirely closing the medium security and so I'm concerned that we're not going to have enough capacity to do that but Supervisor Carbajal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:43:42

Yeah, I guess I am a little confused but I think I understand it but it seems that even with this expansion based on the number of inmates that we currently We're basically going to go to being able to meet somewhat the existing capacity need that we have now. But it almost feels like in another five or 10 years, we're going to be back in a very similar circumstance. So it almost feels like we're taking significant strides forward but in no time we're going to be in a similar circumstance where we're gonna have to add As we have done now non rated beds to keep to add to that cushion that we're going to need and it's.

It almost sounds like I mean we're gonna take what we can get obviously because that's really what we have but we really need a bigger facility

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:44:41

Well,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:44:42

I mean, I'm not advocating for one because we don't have the money. But it's- Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:44:48

Carball, I think really what we've tried to do here is to strike a balance between what we really need and what we can afford and taking a step towards getting us to where we need to be. There's no question that we have to redouble our efforts at alternative custody programs At intensive supervision through the probation department and other alternative custody methodologies, otherwise we'll be totally overwhelmed with the new facility. We are working towards that end but we do have to have at least a base level of additional jail capacity and a better environment. The medium security facility was built in 1961 and it is just a very archaic facility.

And unfortunately our Our current jail, which you've heard me describe many times as a rambling version of Santa Barbara's version of the Winchester Mystery House. It's been added on to so many times it's really not very efficient. The new facility would be far more efficient and would also provide you with the opportunity or with subsequent boards and subsequent sheriffs to add relatively inexpensively to that facility by building, for example, an additional pod with the infrastructure and everything else already there. So the future options are much better with a new facility than they are. We've run out of room and we don't have any other options for our current jail facility. This would give us the option to move forward

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:46:20

with that. Yes, thank you. Supervisor Gray.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:46:25

Back to the question, Sheriff. You said difference in need and afford. What do we need? What's the need number and what would be the price tag on the need number

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:46:41

Well, Supervisor Gray as I indicated if we were to absorb the entire 376 beds into our system and continue to operate the medium security facility. We would need to have an additional 3.8 million or so per year starting in 2018 to do that. The projection that was done indicated that by the year 2020, the county would need an additional 800 beds. That was before we started a lot of the alternative practices that we did.

The Blue Ribbon Commission believed that we could operate with a 300-bed additional facility as long as we invested and continued to do the prevention and intervention programs. AB 109, as I said, has added additional challenges for us. I don't think anybody is saying that this jail is necessarily going to be the silver bullet. The ideal situation would be for us to build one massive new jail But the geographic realities of our county really don't allow us to do that. We are, in essence, spread out so far that we have to have two facilities and that creates unfortunately for us a lack of efficiencies that we could have if we had one giant massive facility. So what we're trying to do here as I said is to really strike a balance between What the needs are, what the economic realities are, what the opportunity is now to get this funding from the state.

And remember that even if we had proposed to build a larger facility, the maximum amount that the state would give us at this point is $80 million. So we would have to be coming up with even more money and causing even more Headaches in terms of where we were going to get that to not only build but to operate a larger facility. So this is really not the final step but this is a major step that we have to take

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:48:39

now. Thank you Supervisor Carbone.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:48:41

Thank you. You know Sheriff Brown I really appreciate your leadership on this and I appreciate that the approach you're taking and I do also appreciate the fact that it lends itself to expansion in the future because that's really No doubt we're going to get there in the future at some date again and it makes it a lot easier than the predicament that we're in now, in terms of expanding.

And I'm glad you got to this slide because I think this is the rub. You know, I think you got us all the money, most of the money to build this facility and the match is actually quite minimal when you compare the contribution that we have to make But the $17 million for ongoing operations is the rub, and it's going to be the challenge. And obviously we're between a rock and a hard place. How can we not move forward with such an extraordinary amount of money that the state has dangled in front of our face?

But it's no doubt going to be a strain on the rest of county operations because this is general fund From approximately $200 million. That the county has for all other services, including other public safety services. We have to come up now with $17 million and no doubt that's going to be the challenge for us. Like I said, I think we have no choice but where the rubber hits the road is going to be to our CEO in outlining the various financing approaches In the future for dealing with these operations how we're going to phase into that.

Other as were included in the report financing mechanisms that are going to help us achieve that and have less of a strain on county operations and existing services and staff it goes back to things we don't like to talk about but it's it's the reality an initiative for public safety or for the jail Oil tax revenue, transient occupancy tax. All of those things that are difficult discussions but we need to have them because they're all options in helping us keep our services whole for the public and yet continue with these important needs. In any poll you do, I don't care who does it whether it's political or not. The public is really mixed they don't want you the public does not want government to cut their service existing services but they want you to fund things out of existing they don't want you to tax they want you to fund it out of existing resources so it's sort of an interesting paradox that the public seems to the sentiment that the public Provides in these polls so it's again a pro reminds us of the challenge we have is local government and achieving these.

These facilities so

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:51:53

thank you supervisor sheriff.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:51:55

Thank you, Supervisor. And I agree with you completely, Supervisor Carbajal. This slide here shows a breakdown of the operations costs in the fiscal year 2018-19 dollars. $16,617,000 for the Sheriff's Office that includes all of the employee costs and the supplies and services costs such as utilities. 118 full-time employees would be required to operate this 376 bed facility. 23 employees, as I indicated, would be transferred from other custody operations currently. That's a net of 95 new employees who would be required to be hired for this facility. 57 of those positions would be sworn of various ranks and 38 of those positions would be civilians.

Now in addition to the sheriff's costs, general services costs would be incurred as well with the cost of the new facility. And the $727,000 figure that you see there is an estimate that our CFO put together to try to balance the scope of this project. This would be the largest Public Works project that the County of Santa Barbara has ever done, the largest county facility. And using the formula that we have traditionally used by square foot would have driven this number higher. Our CFO went and looked at We fairly recently constructed Juvenile Hall facility and utilized a per square foot charge that was being used there to come up with a figure of $727,000. That would pay for five full-time equivalent positions in general services plus materials that would be needed to maintain the facility.

Bear in mind this would be a brand new facility and in the early years would require Presumably minimal maintenance versus after 20 years or so and as we're experiencing our current jail where it requires far more than that. Anyway, our net estimated annual cost for the facility as you say is 17 million. That is a tough nut to crack no question about it. We put this next slide together to show the forecast of how that amount would increase with a 3% cost escalator that goes up. Now again I will remind you that this does not factor in the anticipated reduction in retirement costs which I believe are going to bring that number down, that line down.

But obviously there's significant operational cost to run this new facility and this is the biggest nut to crack on this project.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:54:36

And actually Sheriff I'm going to stop you there and ask you the same question I asked you before. In the analysis that was done, the fiscal analysis for the jail that was done several years ago, an increase factor of 5% plus was used and now we're using 3%. So maybe you could just explain that again?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:54:57

Well, I think Chair Farr that the thinking is that we're not seeing anything close to what we have seen and won't see anything close to what we've seen in the future. In terms of employee benefit increases for example, the economic downturn has pretty much indicated that those are not going to be forthcoming in the same manner as they were And generally we've seen inflation kept down. These numbers were put together by our CFO and I'd like to just defer to him briefly, and he feels very comfortable with them so I'm going to let him explain himself.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:55:35

Thank you Sheriff, Madam Chair, members of the board. As we were going through the analysis we really did determine that costs are being constrained by your board and by the economic terms that we just aren't seeing those increases that are happening. And even if you focus on retirement for just a moment, retirement is a portion albeit a large portion on the sworn side of total cost but when you look at it as a total cost to an individual as a percentage its less so we see those costs really being maintained or leveled out Because of the constraints on future pay increases, future benefit changes and so on. And we don't see those changing in the foreseeable future now. It's a forecast but I feel comfortable and I feel good about the numbers that we have.

There are always shifts and changes that occur that I can't predict to you today because I'm not aware of them but they...I believe the increase Today is good. I think the other forecast was on fiscal 08-09 and again, the inflation rate was higher then. The cost of employees were beginning to accelerate and we are seeing that when we develop that analysis but those are the days have passed and I think the 3% going forward is a good conservative number for today.

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:56:50

you. So anyway, that's a big number so how do we get there? Well, I can tell you that we've explored every possible way to get there. As I mentioned to you earlier, we went to the voters with U2000 and Measure S in 2000 and 2010 respectively but the citizens were clear as you say Supervisor Carbajal they wanted it done another way through existing tax dollars so we went back to the drawing board And in conjunction with the CEO's office, developed a new plan to incrementally partition off general fund growth over the next 12 years.

This plan will accomplish two things. Number one it will eventually carve out the required operational costs from the general fund using general fund growth each year. And number two, it will develop and incrementally add to a designation. A savings account if you will that will grow over the first few years as the jail is being designed and built and they can then be drawn down on from the time the jail is opened until the incremental plan of ratcheting us up to where we need to be for operations is complete.

That plan became known as the Jail Operations Account, The North County Jail Operations Designation Fund You began that fund in fiscal year 11 and 12 by putting $1 million into that designation. This year you added an additional million dollars to the first million dollars that you had carved out of the general fund, and you directed it to that designation.

This two million dollars from this year added to the one million from last year means that you now have three million dollars in that designation. The plan calls for continued and gradually increasing portions of future general fund growth to be allocated to the jail operations account. The balance will continue to build up until the opening of the jail, at which time a portion of the balance will be used each year along with the carved out portion of the general fund to fund operations. The accumulated amount as I say will be used to fill the gap until the plan is fully implemented And in fiscal year 22-23, no more increases in the designation would be necessary and the balance of the fund, of the savings account, the designation if you will, would be completely depleted.

Now this plan is somewhat complex and confusing so I had my staff put together an alternate way to look at the growth of the fund which you can see displayed here. We're on the wrong slide, 16. Every year we would build capacity. We're apparently experiencing technical difficulties, so can we just bear with us for a moment while we get that chart up?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:59:47

Yeah. We can take five minutes here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:59:50

Actually it's here. It's there at 17.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:59:52

Yes. Supervisor Labadino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:59:58

Having to leave, so I'd prefer if we didn't take a break and we just kind of-

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:00:01

Okay. Well they're

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:00:02

ready, I guess. Five more slides and public comment.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:00:05

Okay.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:00:06

So thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:00:08

We have it. Here's the breakdown. The blue bars as you can see show the amount that we are putting aside each year that matches the previous year's total with the green bars showing the amount that will be added to the figure each year by that growth as I indicated until fiscal year 22-23. As you can see, this is a laddered approach to building up the fund and the carved out portion of the general fund committed to future jail operations. Now this chart does not show the accumulated amount of the fund. That amount you can refer to in exhibit F on the spreadsheet that's going to be different number than you see here. This is the annual ongoing amount in this slide.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:00:54

Okay, Sheriff. In 17-18 when the, which is the fiscal year when the jail needs to be opened, this according to this there would be 7.6 million and then adding that other on top to get So at that point the board's going to have to come up with another nine or ten million dollars, right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:01:21

No. Sheriff perhaps

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:01:22

I can help in that regard since this is something very familiar to the CEO. What you would be doing in those years is you'd be drawing down the reserves that you have accumulated over all the previous seven years. And so what you would see, as the Sheriff indicated is that you would have enough dollars in reserve to enable him to open at the same time you continue to build for future years. So your savings account would be very large that year and you'd start drawing down your savings account to meet his operational needs.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:02:00

I still don't get it, but. Yeah, just to...I don't understand either. It looks like we would be adding that year 7.6 from the general fund. We already have an amount in the bank you might say and the balance is 9.1. So I also am not clear CEO all or where were the remaining?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:02:26

And Doug can you help us with what the savings account actually has in each of those years because that's not something that shows on the slide

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:02:33

Yes, ma'am. Where is a saving if you want to refer to exhibit F in your packet there are three Different spreadsheets depending on what methodology we're going to use to fund the capital but if I could send you two option 3 which is one of the spreadsheets at Exhibit F and To specifically answer the question that you, I think the year. Do

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:02:59

we have that where we can put that slide up for the public as well? Okay thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:03:51

Chair Farwell, we're waiting for that. If I could just throw in here if you can just visualize on that ladder each of those year amounts would be accumulating in a bank account up until the time that we open the jail plus interest on top of that. So if you take the 1 million, the 2 million The 3.3 million and so forth on that laddered approach, and each of those years goes into the savings account and builds up. You're going to have a significant amount of money in that savings account the year that we would open the jail. We would then draw down from that account and from the amount that had already been carved out of the general fund budget input towards this continue to build that over the years, weaning off the account and increasing the growth until the point where we got to where we needed to be.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:04:42

In essence you're creating a smoothing of our phased in liability for the operations of this jail?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:04:51

Exactly and you would see the balance of the account Look like a bell curve, you'd see it would go up till that year that we first start and then it would gradually come down. The designation would be reduced as the amount in the general fund used for this budget would increase.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:05:06

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:05:06

you. Supervisor Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:05:09

No I'm sorry.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:05:10

Go ahead.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:05:10

Okay Madam Chair thank you. Apologize for the blurriness but I'll try to walk you through it. The line you want to look at as far as accumulated balance will be Line 1 which is this very top line here And you can see over time that line is gradually building up, and I believe the fiscal year you were speaking of was 17-18. At the beginning of that year we'll have $18 million accumulated in the fund. We're going to bring in 9.2 million dollars which is the growth from the general fund and we're going to be spending about 10 million dollars on operations.

The bars down here are construction costs, monies being spent and reimbursement coming back from the state. That's a $16 million balance at the end of fiscal 17-18. And as the Sheriff said, once we reach that peak, the facility is open, staff has been hired, we're running the jail. We'll continue to increase the general fund contribution to the account and it becomes your subsidy to run the facility for three or four more years. Why don't you go ahead and slide it over? And you'll see the balance declines over time in 19-20 it's down to nine and 20-21 it's at five I think.

While the general fund contribution continues to grow and eventually you'll meet the GFC Contribution to the project will equal the operations to run the facility in 22-23

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:06:38

Supervisor Carballo

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:06:41

This all makes sense to me, but I guess the only question. I would have is What is the assumption of growth that? You're making that the county would have By which you are extrapolating the percentage of growth you need for these assumptions. Can you tell us what that growth assumption for the county in general, general fund is predicated on? And is it conservative? Give us a sense.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:07:10

I'm going to defer that to Tom Alvarez who can answer more specifically.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:07:14

Mr. Alvarez? Chair, board members. If we can go back Doug or someone to the original schedule that had the ladder you can see the incremental growth every year and I think that's what your question was Supervisor Carbajal so the green is that incremental growth that you're talking about it was not calculated as a percentage it was at the time the original plan was developed was carving out a I'll say modest amount so it's roughly about a million or more per year And so it wasn't based on a percentage but it would use that much of the county's growth every year. So this, that green displays that very well and I think the confusion on this graph if you look at this table, the green is the growth every year. So the first year was just 1 million.

The second The blue represents whatever that prior base of general fund contribution was because that base is just going to keep growing every year of annual general fund contribution. So in the second year, you have the $1 million from the prior year plus the $1 million of growth, that's the green. What's not displayed is that at the end of that second year, you have a $3 million and I'm sorry, But I'm sorry, at the end of the second year what's not displayed is that you'll have a $3 million built up accumulation of funds. And then it just increases from there so in the second year you had the $3 million and then you can see the third year is a 3.3 million contribution which would give you a total of 6.3 million dollars. So when you get out to the 17-18 year that we were talking about, there will be 33 million dollars accumulated

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:09:00

Madam Chair, I certainly understand that and I appreciate that Mr. Alvarez. And I'm just trying to get perspective so that it's completely transparent what we're doing and the one thing that concerns me is that it would be great to understand what that percentage of the projected growth is because if I'm sitting here and I see probation in the audience, fire, social services, health I want to know if all the increased general fund is going to this project now or only 10% or 25%. How much of the projected growth is going towards this fund so that you get perspective on the general funds future?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:09:46

So Chair Farr, Supervisor Carbajal. So for next year for instance we were assuming about a 2% growth. We have roughly $200 million in general revenues so we're roughly looking at $4 million of growth and we've already committed a certain amount of the growth to the fire department and so we would be committing another in this case a million or in the subsequent year it'd be 1.3 million So that's roughly, in this case roughly 25% of the anticipated growth for next year.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:10:19

Thank you, that's what I wanted. I just wanted to get a sense of the impact because what I said earlier is that this is going to have a major impact on our entire county family and I want everybody to be aware versus we're sugarcoating it and then later on it's sort of a surprise. I think we just need to go into this with eyes wide open and everybody knowing what it is we're contemplating here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:10:44

Supervisor Wolf. Thank you, Madam Chair. I know that there's some time constraints up here today and the issues that we have been talking about... We've talked at the DAC and I think I'm hearing from my colleagues pretty much the same concerns about how we're going to be paying for the ongoing costs. And I would like to suggest that we have That we deal with the issue that's at hand right now, which is getting that letter to the state. But I do believe that we're going to need a workshop that's going to be focusing on this chart and also looking at other alternatives besides all of the money coming out of general fund. There may be an opportunity that you would want to put forth about using some of your additional 172 funds from a particular point forward.

I think that when we look at these numbers and what we're going to have to come up with, and the hits it's going to take to the rest of the county family We don't want to open this facility and not have it be used. So we have to go in and really understand what we're getting into, but I think right now The one issue is making sure that we can tell the state that we have the funds that's required of us. It doesn't obligate us as I understand it at this meeting, that we're moving forward but I have to say that I think that this board needs a much more broad discussion on the staffing.

I read that there's a staffing report out there, you know. I just think we need to have a more robust discussion. This is a huge decision for us but certainly I think we could move forward in my opinion, I think we can move forward on the original questions that are asked of us and that's at resolution. So I'd like to know if anyone else is interested in maybe having a workshop to talk about this.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:12:52

I think that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:12:53

there are a lot of issues

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:12:54

here. Supervisor Levin, you know, I know you're under time constraints here.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:12:58

Yeah, I agree with Supervisor Wolff. If we could just focus on what we're doing here today and I think we all understand $17 million a year out of our general fund is going to be a tremendous hit Regardless of how we feel about the North County Jail. So I'm hoping, Sheriff that you have three votes today and if I'm going to be one of those we're gonna have to do this in the next 15 minutes so I've got a flight to catch so I just want to let you know where I'm at.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:13:33

Thank you I will be brief and wrapping up This slide just shows, the next slide benefits of the new jail. They really are counter to the problems that I told you we have with jail overcrowding so I won't dwell on those but they're pretty obvious benefits that we'll see increased. The last slide before the conclusion slide is the slide that talks about economic situation and I know that there's consternation, I know that there's uncertainty about our economic future but I will tell you that You heard earlier today that the current economic environment, there are some positive indicators that we're seeing and they're telling us that now is the time to go forward with this project and stay ahead of the curve. Real estate prices are improving as a result of increased demand for housing.

You have heard that sales tax revenue is increasing. Transient occupancy taxes is increasing. Consumer confidence is at its highest point in five years according to a Chapman University study It's important that we move ahead and one of the big benefits, I want you to look at this project not as a drain on county finances. But I want you to look at this as an economic engine for the county. I want you to look at this $80 million that we would be receiving from the state and the match money that we would be spending not going to Sacramento or Washington never to be seen within our county but being spent in our county Creating a facility that will create jobs, and that's why I've got jobs, jobs, jobs up there. You've got an economic forecast report as an attachment that indicates that during construction there'll be 378 to 407 jobs associated with this project.

And ongoing there'd be 189 jobs associated with this project both government and private jobs not only custody deputies but also nurses under contract teachers counselors and so forth You have a direct effect of those monies being spent on construction materials, on lodging, on restaurants, on other retail purchases, on supplies. And you have the indirect effect of that money being spent again by the people with whom it is spent. That multiplier effect keeps that funding cycling through our economy and uses this as a tremendous potential economic engine for the county.

So I'm going to wrap up at that point by telling you this. Eight boards of supervisors and four sheriffs have grappled with the problem of inadequate jail space for the last 30 years. The need for additional jail space has never been greater. Financial assistance to build the jail has never been richer, and the opportunity to do this has never been better. The time is now we must move forward to a solution and not back to a problem. So I ask for your unanimous support of the staff recommendations and your commitment to once and for all build the North County Jail. That concludes my presentation. My staff and I are available for any questions that you might have.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:16:41

Thank you, Sheriff. I think we'll go ahead and we'll go right into public comment right now. Mr. Allen?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:16:48

Madam Chair, members of the board, we have eight requests to speak. We'll start in Santa Maria right now with David Baskett to be followed by Andy Caldwell.

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GuestDavid BaskettSheriffProposedself-stated2:17:00

To keep things short, please ask the board to approve the sheriff's proposal.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:17:07

Thank you. Mr. Caldwell to be followed by Stephen Foley in Santa Maria.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:17:16

Madam Chair, members of the board, I'm Andy Caldwell representing Colab. I too will be brief. We support the Sheriff's recommendation. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:17:25

Thank you. Steve Foley in Santa Maria who is our final speaker up there to be followed by Beverly Taylor here in Santa Barbara.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:17:35

Mr.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:17:35

Foley?

GuestStephen FoleyDistrict AttorneyProposedself-stated2:17:35

Good morning chair Farr. Good morning, rest of the Board of Supervisors. My name is Stephen Foley and I'm a Chief Deputy District Attorney in Santa Maria. District Attorney Joyce Studley would like to be here today personally to voice her support for Sheriff Brown in this project however she is out of town so on behalf of Joyce I would like to say thank you to the sheriff and to the board of supervisors for your tireless efforts to put this project of the North County Jail through The district attorney supports this project and urges the board to support it and pass it.

To truly live as a free people in a free society, we must feel safe. Safe in our homes and safe on our streets. The construction and operation of the North County Jail will greatly enhance our ability to protect the public. It's a basic truth that criminals cannot break into our homes or into our businesses or do worse if they are locked up Protection of the public is a duty that democracy owes to its citizens.

With your support of this proposal today, concepts such as early release and cap reductions will be a thing of the past and would-be criminals will think a lot longer before they commit crimes in Santa Barbara County. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:18:58

Beverly Taylor here in Santa Barbara to be followed by Jim Thomas. Good

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:19:01

morning, Chief Taylor.

PresenterBeverly TaylorSanta Maria Juvenile Hall from 2002-2007 I know the limitations and benefits ofProposedself-stated2:19:02

Good morning, Chair Farr, Board of Supervisors. My name is Beverly Taylor, chief probation officer. As a director of the Santa Maria Juvenile Hall from 2002-2007 I know the limitations and benefits of running a 24 7 facility with and without adequate design space. Maintaining safe operations for inmates or detainees and staff requires not only good policies and ongoing training of staff, but a physical plant that first holds offenders accountable which requires adequate bed space. And secondly, a facility that has design space that promotes rehabilitation of offenders under our custody.

Housing, having adequate housing units to accommodate an evidence-based classification strategy is vital for safe operations An adequate multipurpose space for recommended programming needs including mental health, substance abuse, anger management, educational and vocational services is likewise vital for rehabilitation of offenders. especially with long-term commitments of the realigned offenders.

In summary, holding offenders accountable and providing evidence based programs are both needed for promoting public safety and ultimately reducing recidivism. Our jail today lacks a key ingredient space for adequate programming. The proposal for a new jail addresses space issues and many other state of the art features That will further enhance facility operations for sworn, civilian and professional practitioners.

While I support going forward, I too recognize the impact on county departments and I appreciate discussions today for looking at alternative funding sources. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed2:20:59

Madam Chair, members of the board it's been 10 years since I've stood before you and I must admit that this part I don't miss very much so I'll be very brief. The first request for this jail came in 1983 under Sheriff John Carpenter. That's 30 years ago that we first started proposing this facility. Four sheriffs have worked hard in that time to try and get it built. We've gone to the electorate twice and have been turned down. Today's political environment, we often hear the term of kicking the can down the road.

This can has been kicked about as far as it'll go so for the sake of our community or staff and the inmates We previous sheriffs urge you to support Sheriff Brown's request.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:21:41

Thank you. I think Mr. Crandell might have left, so our next speaker is John Wilczak to be followed by Cam Sanchez as our final speaker.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:21:52

Morning, Mr. Wilczek.

CommentCam SanchezProposed2:21:53

Madam Chairman and the Board, I'm glad to be here today representing the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Benevolent Posse. We discussed this issue at length, this project, and our board unanimously wanted to recommend to the board to approve moving forward with this important project for public safety As an individual and a citizen in Santa Barbara County, I have to urge you knowing what those numbers look like to look outside the box in terms of revenue and new revenue sources. This is a county that's extraordinarily rich in natural resources It is sadly not taking advantage of them.

I don't think we're going to be left with any other option but to look at a natural resource base we have here, to generate significant revenues for all the social services that are needed to make this county the great place that it's been, but is sadly starting to deteriorate because of a lack of funding and capability. I leave you with that message because the biggest gap that you see there is how you're going to fund the ongoing operations of this jail once it's opened up. And you can't simply look to bed taxes and existing tourism to fill that gap.

We have a resource here. Start thinking about how we can use it effectively, wisely, environmentally sensitively but let's not waste any time in that planning because those planning horizons are a lot like these planning horizons. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:23:22

Thank you. Our final speaker is Cam Sanchez

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:23:31

Good morning, Chief Sanchez. Thank you for being

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed2:23:32

here. I'm just here very briefly to encourage and hope that the Sheriff's proposal goes through. I support it, the department, the police department supports it and it's really interesting because even though we're going through some terrible economic times, it is unfortunate that those that prey on our community are not cutting back on their activities And we really need to think about that for the long term, for the future. And it's more than just locking them up. It's also about programs for them. It is about maybe even comfort for them.

This is a benefit to the entire community including those who are incarcerated. This is the full approach And 30 years later, I think it is time as well. As a police chief here, I need to tell you that we do a lot of things with the Sheriff's Department. We have a wonderful relationship and I'm speaking on behalf of all the chiefs in the county. A wonderful relationship with the Sheriff's Department, with County Probation, with the DA's office.

I believe it's actually quite unique that we get along so well with each other and address public safety together in a large way. Many of those that continue to prey on our community, prey on our community countywide. It's not just a Santa Barbara City issue, it's not just a county issue. They're transient, they commit crimes everywhere. They have vehicles, they have plans and we just need to have a better plan. And I believe after so many years this is a great plan. I support it as does my police department as well as the other chiefs in the county. So I thank you for your time to let me encourage you to do that and to thank Sheriff Brown his staff and all the other prior sheriffs for all their hard work on behalf of this community. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:25:07

Thank you. Thank you for all your hard work. Supervisor Carbajal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:25:10

Thank you. Mr. Brown I have one last, actually one comment and one last question that I'm hopeful we could consider. You know when you mention jobs, jobs, jobs, I think that is one of the most important benefits of what we're attempting to do here not to mention the primary goal which is to keep people housed to fulfill their penalty for committing crime. But I'm hopeful that as we move forward, that we do everything we can to give a preference to our tri-counties. I think it would be difficult to just make it for our county because you need a bigger labor pool for this.

But I think we need to provide, if at all possible, a preference for our labor to come from the tri-counties to help our economy. Because if we leave it up to usually firms that bid for this are firms that do these types of projects and they're from out of town. And sometimes they bring in their labor from wherever they can get it. We need to make sure that they're providing the labor for this from our tri-county area so that we can get the benefit of the jobs, jobs, jobs.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:26:19

Supervisor Carvajal, we're with you 100% on that and we're going to do everything we can do to make sure

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:26:23

that happens. And the second one is I know the media's here and I want to remind the media and everyone of why one of the many reasons I was promoting the Miramar TOT rebate ordinance because I think it It's another little piece that lends itself to us generating the revenues towards fulfilling our responsibility for our services.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:26:51

Thank you. Supervisor Wolf? Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd like to just make a quick comment and then go ahead and make a motion if that's acceptable. Sheriff Brown, you know, you and I have sometimes not always agreed on things but since 2008 when I went with you to Sacramento with your folks to pursue this, I felt deeply in my heart that this was the right thing that we needed to do in our county And over those years, the plan has changed. And what I think with a number of beds and what we originally expected and where we are now, I think that the plan has matured. And I think it's a lot more transparent but we still need to have that other discussion on the operations. But I'm very confident That we need to move forward. Let the state know that we are committed as a county to this, that we have the funds available.

Whether or not we are going to do a COP in the future, that is something we're gonna have to look at. I personally don't hold a lot of hope that we're going to do that but that is always an option. So Madam-

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:28:06

Actually just a moment. I just want to give Supervisors Lavagnino and Gray an opportunity to make any comments here before Supervisor Wolf makes a motion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:28:15

We'd like the motion to be made, and we'd really like it to be made in North County. So Supervisor Laramie?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:28:20

No I will defer to Supervisor Wolf.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:28:23

Actually that's fine, I'm happy to have supervisors. No no, we want you to do it so please make

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:28:29

a motion. So let's just go ahead and have a motion then. We're going to just argue about who is going to make the motion because we can't wait! We're just so excited. Okay, well I think the motion is to accept staff's proposal as indicated in the item. So I can go through it. Do I need to go through it? No, A-E. But I think the main issue is adopting the resolutions Do we need to specify? Because I know resolutions, we sometimes have to read those.

GuestWolfeProposed · by introduction2:29:02

Madam Chair and Supervisor Wolf, your motion would be adequate to just move staff recommendations A through G with no changes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:29:10

So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:29:10

moved. Okay do we have a second in North County? I'll second. Supervisor Gray with us. Thank you. We'll need a roll call Mr. Allen.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:29:21

Ms. Gray? Aye. Mr. Lavagnino? Mr. Carbajal? Aye. Ms. Wolfe? Aye. Ms. Farr?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:29:29

Aye All right, thank you everybody. Thank you everybody who came and with that the board is going to be adjourned unless we have anybody we need to close in honor of

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:29:43

And I do, I'd like to adjourn in honor of John Barlogio very active in the Santa Maria Elks outstanding member of our community And Nina Smith, who passed in Lompoc. She was active in the community and wife of the police chief and former mayor J.D. Smith. Thank you. Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:30:02

you Supervisor Gray. With that we will be adjourned until next week, the 9th here in Santa Barbara. Thank you again. ¶.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:30:48

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