BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 December 4, 2012

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:09 · ≈ 9:00 AM

Go ahead and convene this regular meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors to order of December 4th, 2012. We're glad that you're all here. Mr. Allen would you call the roll please?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed0:23 · ≈ 9:00 AM

Mr. Lavinino? Here! Mr. Carbajal? Here Ms. Wolfe? Here Ms. Gray? Present Ms. Farr?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:29 · ≈ 9:00 AM

Here Would you all

Roll-call vote Passed 1–0 Moved by Janet Wolf · Seconded by Salud Carbajal approve · 1 under review
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please rise with me for the Pledge of Allegiance Thank you. We'll go ahead and take up our minutes of our meeting of November 13th, unless there are any changes I'll entertain a motion to approve. Motion by Supervisor Gray, seconded by Supervisor Carbajal. All those in favor say aye.
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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:10 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Aye. Opposed? Motion carries and we'll go ahead and move right into public comment. Mr. Allen do we have any public speakers?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:19 · ≈ 9:01 AM

We have no request to speak Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:21 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Okay well I would like to go ahead and take this opportunity to make a public comment. Dr. Wada our wonderful Public health director who's also now working as an interim for alcohol, drug and mental health. He and his wife Cecilia welcomed their third child and third son. This morning at Cottage Hospital. And he weighed seven pounds, 14 ounces and they're still working on a name so Dr. Wada and Cecilia you like me are now a member of the three son club so we'll have a lot to commiserate about in the future but right now it's all celebration so congratulations all of our congratulations go to Dr. Wada and his wife on the birth of their third child With that, we'll move into the administrative agenda and we have several resolutions to present.

A3 is not going to be presented, excuse me, A2 is not going to be presented today but would like to have the board go ahead and just take a vote on A1 through 4 so we can go ahead and present those before we move forward. So moved. Thank you. Motion by Supervisor Wolf, seconded by Supervisor Carbajal. All those in favor say aye. Aye.

Opposed? Motion carries. All right, Supervisor Carbajal we're going to go ahead and turn to you first.

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction2:46 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Thank You Madam Chair. We could have Mr. Rod Latham come up with Jenny Brush. Madam Chair it is an honor for me to present this resolution to Mr. Rod Latham for Him being, him receiving the Santa Barbara County Arts Commission 2012 Leadership in the Arts Award. Now this is a very prestigious award that isn't given out lightly it's only given out to individuals that have a long track record of contribution to the arts in our community, and Mr. Latham is one of those individuals.

He's actually one of the pillars of the arts in our community and when you see many of the art venues and many of the artistic endeavors in our community it's in great part because of his leadership and vision over the years. I want to read you a quote that I think captures Mr. Latham's contribution as somebody wrote, Rod Latham has been a tireless advocate for access to the arts by people living with disabilities youth and minorities, and has served as an ambassador for the arts encouraging workshops, performances, and exhibition opportunities for artists that live and work in Santa Barbara ensuring the preservation of Santa Barbara's unique cultural signature.

I think that embodies the greatness of Mr. Latham and why we're recognizing him today and why he received the award that he did Mr. Allen, if you could read the resolution that goes over specifics about some of those contributions, that would be great.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:38 · ≈ 9:04 AM

Madam Chair, members of the Board, this is a resolution of commendation recognizing Rod Latham as the Santa Barbara County Arts Commission 2012 Leadership in the Arts Award recipient. Whereas, Rod Latham has been recognized by the Santa Barbara County Arts Commission as the 2012 Leadership in the Arts Award recipient for his significant impact on the arts and culture of our community. And whereas, Rod Latham has provided decades of invaluable guidance and insight to foundations, non-profits and area performing arts groups. Serving on the Board of Directors of the Libero Theater, The Center Stage Theater the Marjorie Luke Theater, the Box Tales Theatre Company, the Santa Barbara Performing Arts League and has been recognized by the community for its creative talents in writing, acting, directing, producing as well as the visual arts.

And whereas, Rod has been a tireless advocate for enhancing access to the arts for all residents of our community including those with disabilities, youth and minorities and while leading efforts to establish workshops, performance and exhibition opportunities for artists that live and work in Santa Barbara ensuring the preservation of Santa Barbara's unique cultural signature.

And whereas, Rod Latham was instrumental in the raising of over $4 million to renovate the Marjory Luke Theater which included establishing a unique public-private partnership with the Santa Barbara school districts to create a performing arts venue used by public schools and the community. In addition, in his capacity as President of the Board of the Marjory Luke Theater, Rod worked to establish a rent subsidy program that provides financial support to many local performing arts groups developed community-based programs including the Glee at the Luke benefit that featured cast and producers of the popular television show, and he produced Viva el Arte series in partnership with UCSB Arts & Lectures.

And whereas Rod Latham's distinguished career includes founding Access Theater and directing and co-writing many of 20 original productions including the award winning international tour and television production of Storm Reading that starred Neil Marcus. Rod also achieved international acclaim for his work in 1985 when he was awarded the prestigious Princess Grace Award presented by HSH, Prince Albert of Monaco and Frank Sinatra. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors honors Rod Latham upon his receiving the County Arts Commission Leadership in the Arts Award passed and adopted today.

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GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction7:06 · ≈ 9:07 AM

Madam Chair, I ask Rod if he would just wait one more minute for me to focus on the one item that I really forgot to elaborate on, and that is the Marjorie Luke Theater. I don't know how many of you that are watching or are here in the audience are familiar with that wonderful art venue, well not a museum but performing arts venue. It is just extraordinary and Mr. Latham led the fundraising effort and the vision to make that happen, And it happens to be the school where my son currently attends.

So like I said, if you've attended that performing arts venue, you say wow and when you think that it's part of a school where children every day are able to frequent that whether it's for theater or just to have assemblies, it's just this extraordinary venue and it's rivaled obviously by the Granada in its splendor but that's the type of venue that it is so congratulations.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed8:09 · ≈ 9:08 AM

Thank you. I appreciate it. I'm very honored and very touched, and I appreciate the recognition from the Board of Supervisors in the Arts Commission and appreciate working with Jenny all these years. It's a great honor, and it's certainly warming and touching to be acknowledged. And I really accept this on behalf All of the working artists that live here in Santa Barbara County that really are responsible for creating a cultural signature for us, for touching the lives of young people, for underserved and everyone all of us who live in this amazing county. It's a life passion and I I'm a part of the passion that is embodied in the artistic community here, so thank you for acknowledging all of us and continue supporting the arts and letting it change lives because arts really do save lives.

So thank you so much, I appreciate it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed9:03 · ≈ 9:09 AM

Thank you for all of your work. Ms. Brush did you want to make some comments as well?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed9:11 · ≈ 9:09 AM

Just very briefly, I'm very grateful. First of all, I want to recognize the director of the community arts Community Services Department, which is the department that houses the Arts Commission and I want to especially say how important it It is for the Arts Commission to have this award, to give us. This is the sixth year now we've been able to recognize significant individuals who work tirelessly for the arts and I want to take this opportunity to thank all of those that are working so hard with such dedication, volunteering their time and efforts to encourage arts and culture in Santa Barbara County. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed9:59 · ≈ 9:09 AM

All right, we'll turn next to our next resolution that we're going to present and it's a resolution of commendation honoring Buffy Harrington Guy at the probation department as our December 2012 Santa Barbara County employee of the month. Obviously, we are always proud to be able to honor an employee every month. And Buffy started her career in Santa Barbara County in general services before she moved to probation.

And as we see in our employees of the month, not only are they recognized for the wonderful work that they do and their specific job. But the fact that they provide a wonderful role model and mentoring to other staff that they work with. So Buffy, we're very proud of your work for Santa Barbara County. We're very proud that we can honor you today. And Mr. Allen's gonna read the resolution. I'm gonna bring it down and give it to you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed10:53 · ≈ 9:10 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board. This is a resolution of commendation for Buffy Harrington Guy, the Employee of the Month for Santa Barbara County for December 2012. Whereas Buffy began her career at Santa Barbara County in 1999 as an Administrative Secretary with the General Services Department before being hired by the Probation Department as the Executive Secretary to the Chief Probation Officer in 2006.

And whereas, Buffy has served the department commendably in each assignment since being hired and is currently the support supervisor at the Santa Maria Juvenile Hall. And has modeled the way for incoming staff by consistently displaying a willingness to meet new challenges with a professional demeanor and team spirit in getting the job done while still having fun.

And whereas, Buffy is renowned for initiative and rapport with co-workers as well as her work ethic, positive attitude, efficiency, organizational skills, analytic ability and her caring approach. And whereas, Buffy shows exceptional craftsmanship and expertise in managing Surveys and compiling statistical data for the juvenile detention profile surveys, the Juvenile Cognitive Behavior Training Grant and the Juvenile Accountability Block Grant which requires technical expertise and produces complex reports from probation administration in the state of California.

And whereas Buffy has served her fellow staff members in the general public and other county departments in a commendable fashion she is truly a fine person and example for staff to follow. And whereas, Buffy is married to Mark Guy and is a proud mother of sons Ethan and Liam. Now therefore it is hereby ordered and resolved that the Board of Supervisors recognizes Buffy Harrington-Guy for her excellence as an employee and declares her the Employee of the Month for December 2012. Passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed12:47 · ≈ 9:12 AM

Before Buffy speaks, I just wanted to add one chair bar and supervisors. Beverly Taylor, chief probation officer. I wanted to add one personal thank you to Buffy two and a half months ago at my request. She volunteered to take on the assignment of executive secretary for the probation department on a temporary basis. And in that time We were right in the midst of doing our strategic plan and our departmental overview. So she assisted in coordinating both of those documents to completion, and they are now ready for print.

As you all know, having an executive secretary vacancy even temporarily is not something that we want. So having Buffy step up to take that role is something that I truly thank her for. And she is a example Of what the county would look forward to an employee of the month and we are just fortunate to have her in our department. Thank you, Buffy.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed13:46 · ≈ 9:13 AM

Madam Chair and members of the board thank you for this recognition it truly is an honor I would also like to thank the probation executives especially Chief Taylor whom I recently have had the privilege of working closely with For selecting me as there are so many probation staff who do great things on a daily basis I would also like to acknowledge the probation support staff led by Debbie Anderson. If it was not for the teamwork of my fellow support staff, I would not be able to do my job.

Lastly, I would like to thank my parents for their love and support and to my husband and two wonderful boys who make life fun and interesting. Never a dull moment. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed14:35 · ≈ 9:14 AM

Thank you. And Supervisor Gray, we will turn to you for the next resolution.

PresenterScott McCannProposed · by introduction14:40 · ≈ 9:14 AM

Thank you. My resolution is... The first instructions I got on this was to not tell the truth and then tell the truth, tell what really happened. So I have to introduce to you the character that said this, Jerry Bunin if you would please come up to the dais. Jerry has been the executive director for a building and contractors group for 10 years. And when I first started in the job, I got to see him a whole bunch because we were busy and now we're not so busy. And I only hope that your replacement will be seen a whole lot more than I've been seeing you in the last couple of years.

Now, what happened was he said I want you to be sure that you put in this resolution about the shouting match that we got into in the parking lot. Which I'm not really much on shouting matches but I remember we got into one and so both of us stood there and did the shouting match thing and then when he told me I had to put it in the resolution I said well what were we shouting about? And he said oh my god I can't remember neither could I. So hopefully you figured it out now and when you make your speech you can tell us what you and I were shouting about.

So Mr. Allen, if you'll read this I'm going to go down and hand it to Jerry

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed15:58 · ≈ 9:15 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board. This is a resolution recognizing Jerry Buhnen upon his retirement from the Home Builders Association of the Central Coast. Whereas Jerry Buhnen joined the Home Builders Association of the Central Coast in September of 2002 as the governmental affairs director and has remained in that position for the last 10 years. In that position he's worked to promote the objectives and initiatives of the building industry on the Central Coast, worked with local government on housing land use and economic issues, and developed ties with coalition partners.

And whereas, Jerry's been a stalwart supporter and advocate for home building for many years. On every issue he has managed to represent and further the interests of the building community while maintaining good relationships with policy makers. And whereas, The Home Builders Association of the Central Coast is a non-profit California corporation A trade association representing builders, developers and related industry professionals in San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara counties.

And whereas the Home Builders Association of the Central Coast serves the community within the building industry by working closely with the California Building Industry Association and the National Association of Home Builders To provide comprehensive programs, including powerful legislative advocacy, effective business networking, money-saving benefits, proven educational programs, up to date industry awareness and valuable publications and resources. And whereas Jerry's invaluable hard work experience and knowledge of the home building industry will be profoundly missed by the association members and staff. Now, therefore it be hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors recognizes Jerry Bunin for his 10 years of dedicated work with the Home Builders Association of the Central Coast pass and adopt it today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed17:37 · ≈ 9:17 AM

Thank you very much. Yelling at Joni in the parking lot was not an example of good government relations. Really one of the low points in my professional experience. And it was over the Goleta community plan and what it was is I was urging you, in an inappropriate manner, to have a more thorough discussion about it in front of the board but it was not a very effective approach. But you

PresenterScott McCannProposed · by introduction18:07 · ≈ 9:18 AM

got a resolution out of

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed18:08 · ≈ 9:18 AM

it. I do and I really appreciate the resolution so does the Home Builders Association so I thank you very much. I'd like to use a little bit of my time to thank some of your planning staff as well Glenn Russell and Diane Black are both here. I really enjoyed working with Glenn, and I particularly enjoyed the fact that he and I share an odd interest in archaeology so when we get together we talk about dirt first.

And I've enjoyed Diane Black because I think she knows that over the ten years I've really enjoyed provoking her. It's been one of the highlights of my professional life. The third person I don't think is here is Jeff Hunt. Yeah, he's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed18:45 · ≈ 9:18 AM

sitting there.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed18:48 · ≈ 9:18 AM

You know when Jeff and I were having an intense discussion, and I'm convinced that I had made a really brilliant point. Jeff's comment is always the same thing. We'll take it under advisement. Two final things. When I started the job I was very naive. I really assumed that it would be okay to occasionally Let the emperor know he wasn't wearing any clothes and it wasn't really very nice looking as a nude. And I quickly learned that was a big mistake, but it was fun but it was a mistake. And the other thing I didn't know is that the State Housing and Community Development Department considers Santa Barbara County to be the place in California where the debate over housing and growth versus no growth is more intense than anywhere else so you're number one.

The only other thing I'd like to leave you with is, I hope you will continue to work with my successor who's being interviewed this week. I have no idea what it's going to be and I'd like to leave you with one final quote from my favorite wizard Gandalf. It's coming up in the movie The Hobbit next week and I always think Gandalf's wisdom is a great thing to live by. He said never laugh at live dragons.

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed20:06 · ≈ 9:20 AM

All right, so now we're going to take up the balance of our administrative agenda. Mr. Allen did you want to tell us what changes there might be?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed20:15 · ≈ 9:20 AM

Madam Chair, members of the Board. I have about four items here that I'd like to discuss briefly. First off on item A-15 from General Services, the recommendations are to consider the recommendations regarding the Elwood Pipeline Inc.'s consent to assignment and assumption of performance in first amendment to the lease agreement in the 1st District. I just want to note that that item requires a 4-5th vote Secondly on item A-17, this is from General Services. This is to consider recommendations regarding the Alexander land donation. This is in the Vandenberg Village area in the 3rd District and that item there's a request to continue this to your meeting on December 11th and you can make that a part of the motion on the administrative agenda.

Finally, on corrections on item A-25. This is from Public Works. The request that the board consider recommendations regarding parking restrictions on various roads in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd district. And I just want to note that there's a spelling error in the first paragraph that should be Caye Caridad not Caye Carrida. The item on the administrative agenda is Item A-13. This is from the County Executive Office.

This item asked the board to consider the appointment in lieu of election of qualified individuals to special district boards of directors, and I think this item would need to be pulled off the agenda today. We had 12 open spots for special district appointments. The board has been successful in finding nine individuals And I believe that we posted an addendum, or a late distribution yesterday which added one further individual. So that's 10 of the 12 we've been able to find individuals to serve on those spots.

In one instance in the Summerlin Sanitary District, we actually have two applicants for one position so the board will have to make a decision about that one decision and the applicants are Mr. Novus and Mr. Bradley and that's in the packet.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed22:15 · ≈ 9:22 AM

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Allen. So on A13 are we pulling it or are we continuing it?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed22:20 · ≈ 9:22 AM

We're just going to pull that off for a discussion by the board and direction.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed22:27 · ≈ 9:22 AM

Pull it now?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed22:29 · ≈ 9:22 AM

Sure. Yeah if you'd like to do that now that would be appropriate.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed22:31 · ≈ 9:22 AM

Okay. Are there any before we go into A13, are there any other items that any other board members want to pull? Okay. Supervisor Carbaugh?

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction22:41 · ≈ 9:22 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. There were two individuals that applied for this district, the Summerland Sanitary District. I had an opportunity to interview both to gain their interest and they're both very, very qualified individuals either could fit this role. However, the person that I know most and know of his interests because he has Asked to be appointed to a number of county boards and commissions, and has really demonstrated his volunteerism commitment is Mr. Dave Novus.

Initially he was thinking of backing out but at the last minute he informed me that He really had an interest in serving and has let go of one of those boards and commissions that he serves on. So it would be my suggestion and recommendation that we appoint Mr. David D. Novus to the Summerlin Sanitary District.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed23:39 · ≈ 9:23 AM

Okay, is that a motion?

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction23:41 · ≈ 9:23 AM

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed23:43 · ≈ 9:23 AM

Okay. Yes, and Madam Chair, Supervisor Carbajal if you could include then the appointment of the other individuals, the other nine individuals to the remaining special district positions that would

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction23:52 · ≈ 9:23 AM

be more appropriate. As one motion? Yes sir. Sure I'll do that without objection.

Roll-call vote Passed Moved by Janet Wolf · Seconded by Steve Lavagnino
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I have a motion by Supervisor Carball, seconded by Supervisor Gray. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Alright and so we'll go ahead then and vote on the balance of the administrative agenda with the changes noted by Mr.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed24:15 · ≈ 9:24 AM

Allen. Madam Chair, I'll go ahead and make that motion to approve all items with the changes noted. And I believe also A17 just to specify will be held over for one week.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed24:33 · ≈ 9:24 AM

Continue to December 11th okay? Motion by Supervisor Wolf seconded by Supervisor Labadino. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries thank you very much. Alright we have completed our administrative agenda We're going to go right into the departmental agenda, and that first item I think public health is requesting a continuance. Is that right? Mr. Allen why don't you go ahead and read that into the record.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed25:03 · ≈ 9:25 AM

Yes, Madam Chair. Item number one is from the Public Health Department. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding environmental health services body art fee resolution and fees relating to tattooing, body piercing and permanent cosmetics. And there's a request to continue this item one week to your meeting on December 11th and we have no request to speak on this today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed25:22 · ≈ 9:25 AM

Okay. Good morning. Ms. McIntyre, did you want to make any comments on this? No, Madam Chair, thank you. Okay, Supervisor Carbajal that's a motion. A second by Supervisor Wolf. All those in favor say aye. Aye, opposed? Motion carries. Okay thank you and then the next item I think number two Mr. Allen is also from Public Health.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed25:43 · ≈ 9:25 AM

That's correct Madam Chair members of the board. Item 2 from Public Health is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the tobacco retail licensing ordinance amendment and fee schedule resolution relating to Santa Barbara County Code Chapter 37A licensure of tobacco retailers for Santa Barbara County.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed25:59 · ≈ 9:25 AM

Good morning Ms. Mickey Witz.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed26:01 · ≈ 9:26 AM

Good morning Madam Chair, members of the board. I'm here this morning to present to your board a report on the progress that Santa Barbara County has made since the tobacco retail license was passed in 2010 and ask your board to consider changes to the ordinance In three areas, one to separate the fee out from the ordinance which is the normal way we do fees in the county. Just have them done by separate resolution and to establish a similar, to reduce the tobacco retail license fee for the unincorporated area and to establish a similar fee for jurisdictions who may in the future want the county to do the enforcement and oversight work of their tobacco retail license if they pass one.

I'm sure your board knows that there are significant health impacts from smoking, loss of life, significant costs both in terms of human and economic terms. And I'm proud of all the things that have been accomplished with our tobacco retail license ordinance and I'm going to turn it over to Scott McCann who's the Director of Health Education who will tell you more about those accomplishments and the changes proposed to the ordinance.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed27:13 · ≈ 9:27 AM

Thank You. Good morning Mr. McCann

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed27:15 · ≈ 9:27 AM

Morning Madam Chair and members of the Board. I'd like to give a brief presentation on the progress made implementing the tobacco retail license amendments your board adopted in 2010, and review some proposed modifications to the license fee and administration. A little background, two years ago the board amended the tobacco retail license ordinance to adjust the licensing fee to recover the related county costs and to add provisions that prohibited new tobacco retailers from opening within a thousand feet of a school. At that time the board voted to phase in the fee increase over a two-year period increasing the fee to $250 a year in 2011 and 12 and then to full cost of $435 a year in 2013.

I have good news on the impacts of the ordinance and the sale of tobacco to minors since it was amended. The sale of tobacco to minors in our county declined from 17% of the retailers surveyed in 2010, to just 10% this year. The number of retailers in the unincorporated areas who serve suspensions for selling tobacco to minors declined from 11 last year to only 6 this year.

There were no repeat offenders who sold to minors in 2012, and the sale of tobacco to minors at retailers within 1,000 feet of schools declined from 31% to 22%. All good news in the right direction. In addition, four cities in our county have expressed interest in adopting similar tobacco retail license policies. That's Goleta, Carpentry of Buellton and Solvang. And they've asked if our Tobacco Prevention Program would be able to assist with enforcement primarily in the form of conducting the undercover buys where minors try to purchase cigarettes and also managing retailer education and violations.

Our tobacco prevention program has substantial experience managing this process and the city see benefit in the consistency and efficiency of this possible collaboration. Finally, we have some recommendations set up for your consideration. The first is to separate the fee schedule from the ordinance which is the usual county practice. This is more efficient because it eliminates the need to update the county code when the fees are revised.

Second, we want to reduce the tobacco retail license fee from $435 a year to $409 a year based on a new fee study which showed slightly lower costs than anticipated in implementing this program. And last, we want to establish a fee for cities who request assistance with tobacco retail licensing monitoring and enforcement should they adopt a similar ordinance.

The $379 fee for cities does not include the $30 fee for the actual issuing of the license with the county collected by the treasurer tax collector and then cities would be responsible for that license issuing in their own jurisdictions. That concludes my presentation, and I'd be happy to answer any questions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed30:26 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Thank you Mr. McCann. Supervisor Carbajal?

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction30:28 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. I was really elated to see the data that you compiled because it shows that the intended goal of our ordinance and our fee structure which was beefed up a few years ago is having the effect that I think we wanted. And I think we also provided Retail outlets an opportunity to when they realize they made a mistake for whatever reasons To have an instead of going to a suspension immediately to give them an opportunity get out but re-examine their protocol so that they do not sell to minors, which is really what we want here and I want to recognize not only both of you but Don Dunn in the background who is really the person who implement this program as I understand it, day in and day out. And who I've worked closely in the past and has really been just a stellar leader in making sure that this program gets implemented appropriately with law enforcement.

And that the businesses are treated fairly as well. So I just want to recommend, not recommend, congratulate you for a job well done.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed31:43 · ≈ 9:31 AM

Thank you, Supervisor Carbajal. It is very heartening to see the statistics going in the direction that we want them to and to show that this program really is very efficient at doing what we want it to do which is to reduce smoking overall and access in particular to minors. So other comments from the board? Any other questions? Mr. Allen, any requests to speak from the public?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed32:08 · ≈ 9:32 AM

Madam Chair, we have one request to speak for Mr. Caldwell.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed32:11 · ≈ 9:32 AM

Good morning, Mr. Caldwell.

PresenterAndy CaldwellCoLabProposedself-stated32:13 · ≈ 9:32 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board. I'm Andy Caldwell representing CoLab. I don't know how many of you know that we don't all know each other personally. I personally hate cigarettes. I am asthmatic and plus I just don't like the smell of them. And so I really like the laws in California that ban cigarette smoking from restaurants and a lot of other places but having said that I try not to be What I'm going to call blind and deaf or dumb to reality.

And the foundation of this ordinance is if we make it difficult and illegal to sell cigarettes to minors, minors won't smoke or they may be less inclined to start smoking. And we do know that that might keep some people from going down that path. But if that rationale was correct and effective, the war on drugs would have been won decades ago. You know, the fact of the matter is there's societal trends at place that make some things popular and some things less popular. Some things are cool, some things are not cool.

And I really have had a hard time believing that spending money at the local level in essence swatting it flies really changes societal trends. We can want to believe that we're changing societal trends. It would be good for us to be able to change societal trends, but in reality we may just be taxing small business whose majority of sales are to adults who have the legal right to smoke even though I don't like that.

Even though I don' think it's wise for them to do it our society has given them the legal right to smoke When I was six years old, I swiped cigarettes from my mom. She never knew it. I knew people that would buy alcohol for us when we were 15 or 16 if we would ask them to buy cigarettes it would have been a lot easier and the point here is as we can take statistics and say we're doing a good job but in reality There is not a direct cause and effect relationship. And just as you thought twice about the tattoo fees, I think you should take a look at all fees and ask yourselves whether or not we really truly are making a difference or this is just part of a trend that we're riding right now and we're thankful for it.

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed35:09 · ≈ 9:35 AM

All right, Mr. Allen that's our only public speaker on this item? Yes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed35:12 · ≈ 9:35 AM

Madam

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed35:12 · ≈ 9:35 AM

Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed35:13 · ≈ 9:35 AM

Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed35:13 · ≈ 9:35 AM

Wolf? Thank you Madam Chair I also want to thank our staff for putting this forward and I also think this is quite significant that we've got some cities on board and I think that's an excellent trend that we're seeing and hopefully with the cities that we have some of the other cities will also see how it's working and come on board. I think it's a great statement For the county that the cities have asked for us to be involved in a partnership. So I think we're definitely moving in the right direction and doing what we can to stop this at the initial stages for these kids, thank you so much.

Roll-call vote Passed Moved by Salud Carbajal · Seconded by Janet Wolf our departmental agenda item number three from Public Works
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All right. Any other comments from the board? Otherwise, Ms. Mickiewicz, the recommended actions that we have here have not been changed or modified in any way? Madam Chair, that's correct. OK. Motion by Supervisor Carbajal and seconded by Supervisor Wolf. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. Yes. Do we need to take a break? Okay, all right. We'll go ahead and we'll move to our departmental agenda item number three from Public Works. Mr. Allen would you read that into the record please?
UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed36:42 · ≈ 9:36 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board, item three from Public Works is hearing to approve and authorize the chair to execute the Tahecus Resource Recovery Project term sheet on behalf of the Santa Barbara County with Mustang Renewable Power Ventures. It's in the first second and third districts.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed36:57 · ≈ 9:36 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board, thank you again for hearing this item today. Leslie Wells will be making the presentation who's been working long and hard on this project for the past four years as well as Carlisle Johnston.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed37:13 · ≈ 9:37 AM

Good morning chairperson Farr, supervisors. My presentation this morning is to put into context our staff recommendation for you to approve a term sheet for the resource recovery project. Very briefly, as you're aware this project consists of three components. The first component is a state-of-the-art material recovery facility. This facility is going to sort everything in your trash can into three streams. The first is recyclables that will be sold as commodities.

The second is organics that will serve as feedstock to the anaerobic digester. And the third stream is residual intended to be buried. The second component of the project is an anaerobic digester, and the purpose of the digester is to decompose the organic material. During this process biogas will be extracted and converted to energy. The material that comes out of the digester is going to be composted into a soil amendment and marketed depending upon its quality.

The third component of the project is to landfill the residual at the Tahecus Landfill. So looking at this project from a different perspective, on the left-hand side represents our existing programs. And we're currently as a region over 70% diversion of waste that's generated. The remaining 30% is landfilled So what this project will do on the right hand side, maintaining the existing programs and augmenting them with the resource recovery project. We should reach a diversion rate of 80 to 85%. And the remaining 15 to 20% would be landfilled.

A really important factor associated with this project is what we learned Through issuing the RFP is that this project is cost competitive compared to the alternatives of exporting our waste or building a new landfill. Comparing it to future tipping fees, this project will have minimal impact to the rate pair and an added benefit is it's going to have added service reducing greenhouse gases and producing green energy at no additional cost.

Very briefly, the benefits of the project is it provides a 20-year waste management plan. Additionally, as I mentioned earlier, we'll achieve an 80% to 85% diversion rate surpassing the state's goal of 75%. The project should significantly decrease greenhouse gases to the equivalent of removing 22,000 vehicles from the South Coast. We'll also generate one megawatt of renewable power which will help the state to meet its renewable power requirements.

And lastly, it will provide economic development through increased employment opportunities and property tax to the county. At your January meeting in 2012, your board endorsed the resource recovery project proposed by Mustang Renewable Ventures. You directed staff to initiate the CEQA review of the project and also to develop a term sheet. In November, staff returned to your board with an update on our progress related to CEQAs As well as your board approved two contracts with environmental consulting firms to start to prepare the environmental review.

So your board item before you today relates to the term sheet and for background purposes, it's very important to note that this project has been a true regional collaboration beginning in late 2007 We formed a staff subgroup consisting of representatives from each of the participating jurisdictions, which include City of Santa Barbara, Goleta, Buellton-Solvang and the county.

We also formed an elected official subgroup and that subgroup provided policy direction for this project and has met a total of 10 times. There have been several meetings with the city managers for each of the participating jurisdictions as well as our County Executive Officer. We've brought periodic updates and sought approval from the full city councils and Board of Supervisors a minimum of seven times over the last four years.

And it's important to note that we've made over 100, and actually now it's 112 presentations to interested community stakeholders initially to solicit input on the goals of the project and later on specific project proposals. In 2009, when we issued the RFP, we asked all the participating jurisdictions to approve letters of interest in the project that were included in the RFP.

So at this step in the process, we feel it's necessary to approve the term sheet to demonstrate continued interest in the project. The term sheet as currently Proposed is between Mustang Renewable Power Ventures and each of the participating jurisdictions. It's important to note that it was prepared and edited by city attorneys from each of the jurisdictions. The version that's before you today is the 19th version, so it's been very significantly legally vetted.

The document itself is not legally or financially binding at this point. And largely, it can't be legally binding because of recent court law associated... Court case associated with CEQA which basically says that a jurisdiction can't bind itself to a specific project until completion of CEQA. We've left the negotiation of the financial terms will also occur at the end of CEQAs once we know specifically what the project will look like.

So what their term sheet does is it largely reiterates the business terms that were included in the original RFP as well as a few revisions. Next slide. So, the most significant new provision that is included in the term sheet that wasn't in the RFP relates to the exclusive right to negotiate and this pertains to once CEQA is completed It depends on where the preferred site will be for each of the components of the project.

If the component of the project is on county owned property, Mustang will have the exclusive right to negotiate with the jurisdictions if a component of the project is on privately owned property. The private property owner will have the exclusive right to negotiate with the jurisdictions. Each of these exclusive rights and negotiate provisions do have sunsets so putting this approval into context where we are is your board approved moving forward with CEQA and the CEQAs contracts in November today we're asking you to approve the term sheet The City Council of Goleta has approved the term sheet on November 20th.

The City Council of Santa Barbara received a public education update on November 13, and they're scheduled for approval of the term sheet on December 18. The City Council of Solvang is going to hear this item on December 10, and we're currently working with the city of Buellton to docket this item. So project next steps we're anticipating over the next 18 months.

We're going to be preparing the environmental impact report and bringing that back to your board for consideration. We're also going to be working with the other jurisdictions in their attorneys on preparing the legal structure that's gonna bind the jurisdictions to the project and the chosen vendors. This could be in the form of a joint powers authority or joint powers agency.

And lastly We are going to be reviewing financial information that we've requested from Marburg Industries to determine their eligibility, financial feasibility if their proposed project is selected after CEQA review. So the recommendation today made by staff is for your board to approve the term sheet to demonstrate our continued interest in the project and that's the end of my presentation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed46:08 · ≈ 9:46 AM

Thank you, Ms. Wells. You know again Supervisor Carbajal and I have had the advantage of following this process very closely over the last number of years and it has been an enormous effort by not only the county but by all of the other participating jurisdictions so I'm very pleased that we are also to this particular milestone. Are there any questions or comments from the board? Supervisor Lavagnino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.7746:35 · ≈ 9:46 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. And that is a distinct advantage because it comes back and like you said, we've made 112 presentations. It feels like you've probably made 10 of them here and I've heard this but every time you hear it, it seems like it's so complicated. I need to go over it a couple of times. One of the questions I have is... If we go back to the term sheet, so it says on privately owned property. So this would be the property owner would have the exclusive right to negotiate with jurisdictions if one of the components is non-private property. So let's take for example if we went through and we determined that Marburg would have the MRF at their facility on privately owned land.

So then they would be negotiating With each jurisdiction, cost structures as to fee. How would that work? How would we know what the... I mean how would we have any control over the cost at that point?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed47:38 · ≈ 9:47 AM

Chairwoman Farr, Supervisor Labanino. What we have done and we've actually vetted this question through the city managers and the county CEO, and we're in the process of preparing a letter to Marburg Industries. And what we've asked them is now that they've made a formal stated interest in having a component of their project on their land is we've asked them to respond to the RFP. We're asking them to have to go through the same level of financial review as our other proposers have, and so that's something that we feel is going to allow us to make a fair comparison to the costs associated with proposals we've already received. And so at that point, we're going to undergo this financial review while CEQA is being prepared. And if it's determined that their proposal is not cost effective or not financially feasible, then it could not be considered as the preferred

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.7748:40 · ≈ 9:48 AM

site. OK. So the other alternative is the MRF is actually at the landfill at Tahecus? Correct. OK and just give me the one minute quick over sketch again And I know we're just talking about the term sheet today, but we did go through and talk about the benefits of the project and the cost effectiveness. If you could just give me the one minute quick overview on the economics of it again. For example what the tipping fees are?

Who would those get paid to? You know how that all works. Just...

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed49:16 · ≈ 9:49 AM

Supervisor Lavanino currently when someone receives a bill for trash collection. Included in that bill is a tipping fee, for instance on the South Coast for landfill disposal at the Tejigas Landfill. And the tipping fee there is currently I think it's $77 per ton. So what we're proposing in the future is the county or each of the participating jurisdictions will enter into a contract with the vendor But the cost to run the facility is going to be on a unit tipping fee per ton, and that will be incorporated in the rate payers bill.

And what we have found is this facility won't be built until 2016 so looking at what we're anticipating the price to bury at Tahecus at that time or if other landfills were to be constructed and we were to haul waste to that facility We're looking at close to $100 a ton. And those are the comparable tipping fees that we're seeing associated with this project.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.7750:24 · ≈ 9:50 AM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed50:26 · ≈ 9:50 AM

Thank you, Supervisor Lavagnino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.7750:28 · ≈ 9:50 AM

One last question? Yes. I'm sorry. We talked about the energy creation. Would Mustang be the beneficiary of selling that energy or would that come back to the county or how does that work?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed50:40 · ≈ 9:50 AM

Supervisor Lavagnino, included in that tipping fee is a number of revenue offsets. There's going to be revenue associated with the sale of recyclables, revenue associated with the sale of energy and so those revenues are going to be used as an offset to the cost for the tipping fee.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed51:00 · ≈ 9:51 AM

Good okay. Supervisor Carbajal?

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction51:05 · ≈ 9:51 AM

This prompted me to have just one question, that is with the commodities tendency to go up or down and the revenue offsets. What are we doing to smooth in that commodities? The potential for commodities to go up and down which would lessen the revenue offsets.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed51:26 · ≈ 9:51 AM

Supervisor Carbajal currently we have an arrangement with Our processor of recyclables and we get 90% of the revenue associated with that. With that comes the risk of the volatility of the recyclable market at this time, that's something we're going to negotiate when we come to We're going to be negotiating the contract itself and that's going to be a decision that we will ask your board whether you want to ride the volatility of the market, which means we benefit when it's high. But we also lose when it's low or if we'd rather more consistent revenue stream The downside of that is we don't see the surplus when the market's doing well, but then we also lose the risk associated with that. So that's a decision that we get to make further down

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction52:17 · ≈ 9:52 AM

the road. So you'll bring that to us? That's correct. Okay thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed52:23 · ≈ 9:52 AM

Thank you. And I think it's also important to remember that prior to my being on the board, this board went through a study of where else we would site another landfill and there really is no other good location that we came up with so When we talk about this project and all the benefits of it, I think we also have to look at it in context of if not this, you know what else do we do? And what does that cost and where does it go.

So anyway, I'm very positive about this project. I think that the whole group that has worked on Both from all the jurisdictions, from the staff level and the attorneys as well as the elected officials have really appreciated the thoroughness of which every bit of this has been vetted over time. So again I'm glad that we're to this point. I do believe we have a public speaker Mr. Allen?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed53:22 · ≈ 9:53 AM

Yes, Andy Caldwell.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed53:25 · ≈ 9:53 AM

Mr. Caldwell.

PresenterAndy CaldwellCoLabProposedself-stated53:27 · ≈ 9:53 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board. As you know, we've always been befuddled by the South County's perspective on the Gaviota Coast. On the one hand if somebody wants to build literally a single family house or subdivide their property all hell breaks loose and it's war. And we understand the dumps there, we understand that it might be one of the best locations for the dump on the South County. But the question is do you add to it by building an industrial facility there? Well maybe it's the best place and so we're willing for you to go through the EIR process But just as Marburg has suggested an alternative to the MRF there, I do want to remind you that the North County has a regional compost facility that actually brings materials from the South County here and from San Luis in the north.

And what's the most important thing about that? The market for those soil amendments and compost is in the Santa Maria Valley. And so you have to not just look at what the source of the trash is or the source of the green waste. Where's the end user? And if you haul this stuff up to the North County as an end product, or you haul it up there as a raw product, you're hauling it up there either way.

And I think that the EIR should look at for instance, the brand new Santa Maria landfill To see what its capacity is compared to prolonging the life of Tejiguas. And just as you look at Marburg, I think you should look at the Angle and Gray composting facility in the North County. To see whether or not you could actually help them do what they're already doing. You know health waste management has a MRF. I don't know if it's successful as Marborgs are not. But the fact is, as more and more companies and counties are doing this. And it would be very interesting for you to get I'm gonna call it an independent consultant to come in and really talk to you about the long range markets because there's more and more jurisdictions and companies get into this technology that's going to cause a glut On the market, which should cause the prices to go down.

My biggest concern that we've followed this over the years what is the guarantee to the consumers? That this tip fee is not going to go through the roof either if the technology fails if the markets fail If you're not able to find markets or places for your end product What happens that tip fee it's the staff report talks about it being 100 Is that set in stone and what guarantees do we have?

Roll-call vote Passed Moved by Salud Carbajal · Seconded by Steve Lavagnino
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Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Caldwell. And I totally agree with you that the environmental review is the time to look at all the different possibilities and alternatives. That's what it's there for. It's there to inform decision making so I certainly look forward to the information that comes out of that. All right. With that, I think our action is to approve the term sheet as it's here and if there are no other questions or comments or changes on that, I'll entertain a motion. Motion by Supervisor Carbajal. Do we have a second? Seconded by Supervisor Lavagnino. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. We appreciate all of your hard work on this. All right, what's the wish of the board? Do you want a break or should we go right into the next item? Okay. We'll have a 10-minute break. We'll be back at 1015 to take up item number four, the Orchard Community Plan amendments. We are now taking up departmental agenda item number four to consider recommendations regarding the Orkut Community Plan 2012 amendments. Mr. Allen, would you read that into the record please?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed58:00 · ≈ 9:58 AM

Madam Chair and members of the board, item number four is on planning and development. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Orkut Community Plan 2012 amendments. These are 11 GPA 1 and 11 GPA 2. This is in the fourth district.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed58:14 · ≈ 9:58 AM

Okay, thank you. Morning Dr. Russell?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed58:17 · ≈ 9:58 AM

Good morning Madam Chair and members of the board we are here today to present a proposed amendment to the Orkut community plan There are basically three issues that will be covered by this proposed amendment One is the deletion of the requirement for regional detention basins The second is to lower the acceptable LOS in Old Town Orkut to be consistent with a walkable community And the third is to remove the wetland delineation from Keysight 22, which was a direction that was given to us by the court to take care of that issue.

Yesterday we received comments on the wetland issue from the owners of Keysight 22, the Adam Brothers. There is no time limit on comments on this supplemental EIR so we take these comments very seriously. We've done extensive public outreach on this item On the screen for you here is a timeline which shows the key dates both in terms of the litigation that first, the first decision in December of 2004 as well as the timeline for the outreach efforts that we've done and I will note that we actually started the EIR process while there was still appeals for the Ninth Circuit. The federal court was stretched all the way into 2010. So the point being here is that we've been diligent in pursuing what we need to do but there's also, the timeline was extended a lot by the litigation itself so it is true that it has been eight years since the original trial court decision but this explains why it has taken so long This community plan will control land use for Orcutt for many, many years to come.

And we want to give the board the very best information we can on such an important plan. So we really feel that it is important to hear more from the Adam brothers on their concerns and report back to the board at a continued date. Perhaps the second hearing in January, January 15th would be our suggestion at this time. So we will be meeting with representatives of the Adam Brothers to make sure that we fully understand all their concerns and address them completely.

We do suggest, however, that we hear the staff presentation today, take public testimony and have the board ask us any questions that they may have at this time so that we might be able to address them when we come back at the continued hearing should your board so desire. So with that, unless you have any questions I would have Brett McDulty the planner and project manager give the staff presentation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:01:02 · ≈ 10:01 AM

Okay Dr. Russell is there a representative from the Adams family here that's going to give testimony?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:01:10 · ≈ 10:01 AM

I don't know if they're giving testimony but they're here

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:01:14 · ≈ 10:01 AM

Madam Chair, we have a speaker slip from Santa Maria from Richard Adam Jr.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:01:18 · ≈ 10:01 AM

Okay so depending on that testimony you don't think that this is something that could be resolved today?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:01:25 · ≈ 10:01 AM

Madam Chair I do not think that this can resolve can be resolved today We have heard some of the specific concerns that the Adam brothers have about the draft EIR but they indicated that there were other concerns that we have not heard the details of In order to address those concerns, I don't think it would be possible to do it and act on today's hearing. That would be my recommendation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:01:50 · ≈ 10:01 AM

Okay. Thank you. Supervisor

PresenterScott McCannProposed · by introduction1:01:52 · ≈ 10:01 AM

Gray? Mr. Marshall, I have a question. I think this is probably a little bit uncomfortable for all of us because as you know, Mr. Adam defeated me in the election and will be representing the 4th District starting next year so what kind of a conflict of interest, does that put upon the Adam brothers and his business when it comes time to vote on this again? Can they...

I'm just lost. I don't wanna make this uncomfortable and trying to be do what is in the best interest of ORCA. It's pretty darn clear that we have a decision here that's gone up, up, up and been decided And I just would like to get on with what we're doing in ORCA. Can we move this out? Make it so that it's not all put together and what will Mr. Adams' conflict of interest be next year?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:02:56 · ≈ 10:02 AM

Thank you, Supervisor Gray. That was also going to be my question.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:03:00 · ≈ 10:03 AM

Madam Chair, board members of course until Mr. Adams assumes office he does not have a conflict of interest upon assuming office it would be custom and practice and I believe the law that he would Recuse himself from any direct participation on the dais much as your board members have from time to time when you've had a personal conflict in an issue And that would be it's the financial interest would be a disqualifying interest for participation on the dais

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:03:32 · ≈ 10:03 AM

Okay, so I suggest that we go ahead and proceed With with the presentation and the questions, and we'll have public comment and then the board can Decide from there what we want to do supervisor Carbajal

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction1:03:44 · ≈ 10:03 AM

Thank you. Having had some similar issues with agencies where the county had a relationship with or my spouse was employed by them, conflict is one thing but what's a 1090 or 1099? Because I understand there's different types of conflicts and there's one where the company can't even come and touch anything. You can't have it both ways. It's one of the two.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:04:14 · ≈ 10:04 AM

Mr.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:04:15 · ≈ 10:04 AM

Marshall? The Government Code Section 1090 contract bar precludes a governing body from enacting an ordinance or a contract in which one of its members has a direct interest, that's a contract not a legislative action. And I don't believe that there's a contract contemplated in this.

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction1:04:43 · ≈ 10:04 AM

Thank you, that's very helpful. It's good education for me.

PresenterScott McCannProposed · by introduction1:04:47 · ≈ 10:04 AM

And and I would suggest that we do a bit more research on this because I've certainly have been told over and over in conflict meetings at at different levels, at the state level and at the national level that if your company that pays you any money at all is involved in a vote that you can't be involved. Now more than you can't be involved, the company even because you're a partner so I just sound like I'm self-serving here and this is not the case at all it's just We need to be really clear about what can and can't be done, because I'd be real careful on this one.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:05:35 · ≈ 10:05 AM

Yeah, and I agree. Supervisor Gray. Supervisor Lavagnino? Thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.771:05:39 · ≈ 10:05 AM

Madam Chair, why don't we just do 1 and 3 We move Orchid down the road and obviously if I think Mr. Adam understands that there's possible conflict and otherwise, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't ask to move it so But I think it's very important that they as Dr. Russell said this has been going on since 2004 we want to make sure we get it right So let's do one in three today move two to whenever Mr. Adam will have to deal with whatever

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:06:09 · ≈ 10:06 AM

situation. Okay, well that's definitely one possibility so why don't we just go ahead and get started and we'll go forward and see what happens.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:06:17 · ≈ 10:06 AM

The staff presentation will be made by Brett McNulty.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:06:21 · ≈ 10:06 AM

Good morning Mr. McNulty. Good

CommentBrett McNulty I'mProposedself-stated1:06:23 · ≈ 10:06 AM

morning. Thank you Chair Farr, members of the Board of Supervisors. Again my name is Brett McNulty I'm a planner in the Long Range Planning Division. Today we're presenting the board with three proposed amendments to the Orcutt Community Plan The purpose of the project is to keep the 1997 Orca Community Plan current with three amendments that will update policy for flood control and water quality with removal of an outdated regional basins program, comply with a court order To remove the wetlands delineation for properties known as Keysight 22 and adjust the traffic level of service standard on Clark Avenue as a preferred method to calm traffic and promote pedestrian safety in support of Old Town Orchid revitalization.

The first of these amendments, the Regional Basins Policy Amendment replaces existing community plan policy flood 04 which directs the county to construct a regional basins system to address flooding and water quality impacts from development in the planned area. This policy has been implemented to the extent possible with construction of the Harp Springs basin Which is located near the southwest, it's located at southwest of the Bradley Road and Clark Avenue intersection. And the Rice Ranch Basin located just south of Rice Ranch Road.

Further implementation of the regional basins policy has proven infeasible due to the cost of building and maintaining regional basins, physical constraints such as topography and the impracticality of facilities crossing parcels under private ownership.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:08:13 · ≈ 10:08 AM

Mr. McNulty? Yes. So the two basins on that map have already been constructed?

CommentBrett McNulty I'mProposedself-stated1:08:18 · ≈ 10:08 AM

That's correct.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:08:19 · ≈ 10:08 AM

Okay, and so if this policy weren't changed where would the other basins have to be constructed?

CommentBrett McNulty I'mProposedself-stated1:08:26 · ≈ 10:08 AM

I have a slide that shows the location of the basins. I can move to that right now. Here we are. This is a figure from the Orcutt Community Plan, final EIR showing a figure with the basin's letters so you see D and B are the two that have been constructed and the locations of the other basins.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:09:00 · ≈ 10:09 AM

So how many other basins are we going to be eliminating?

CommentBrett McNulty I'mProposedself-stated1:09:04 · ≈ 10:09 AM

We're going to be eliminating, there are I believe nine of

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:09:10 · ≈ 10:09 AM

them. Nine more basins? Yes. Okay.

CommentBrett McNulty I'mProposedself-stated1:09:15 · ≈ 10:09 AM

We have Tom Fahram from Public Works available to answer any questions about flood control.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:09:21 · ≈ 10:09 AM

Yeah actually I was gonna call on Mr. Fahram. Mr. Fahram would you come to the microphone? I'm just concerned about You know, there was all this community input in this big planning process and this was a part of it. And now it sounds like we're eliminating a lot of potential sites for basins and I'm sure you have very good reasons for that but I just would like you to explain to us what the substitute plan is then if the basins don't go in?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:09:50 · ≈ 10:09 AM

Sure, Madam Chair and members of the Board. Prior to the Orca Community Plan, Orca developed with a series of retention basins that were on project-by-project basis so they would be located on the individual project. In 1997 and before when the Orca Community Plan was developed, the idea was to try to model after what the City of Santa Maria actually had done into some...to great extent successfully in combining larger basins more centrally located We ran into several problems in terms of one, the topography of Orchid is much different than Santa Maria's. Moving water from one site to another site often requires expensive infrastructure and then often a project would have to build upfront costs for other projects and then have to finance that until such a time those other projects came in.

Then what's also since happened is the Regional Water Quality Control Board has implemented new development standards for impacts of runoff on new development, which significantly reduces the amount of runoff from an existing project by doing BMPs onsite. So taking all this into consideration we looked at in the regional basins are actually would be counterproductive To you know, an orderly development scheme in Orchid and we would prefer that with the regional board requirements of on site.

On-site basins would be the most appropriate way to go forward in Oregon. That's why we're proposing this amendment as it is so the mitigation issues are not going away So we're not eliminating regional basins and therefore the mitigation of runoff impacts goes away as well. That's not all the case It'll just be more centrally located on each individual site itself

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:11:39 · ≈ 10:11 AM

Okay, so for example letter a over there which looks like it's that commercially zoned property right on 101 and Clark So that was scheduled to have a regional basin And now if that's developed or when that's developed It has to handle with these new best management practices its own runoff But if it had anticipated take runoff from other properties. It's still going to have to figure out a way to mitigate that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:12:09 · ≈ 10:12 AM

So Madam Chair, in the case of Basin A if memory serves me right that actually served a smaller part of Orkut. The area north of Clark Avenue and then the area just south of Clark Avenue was identified there. There'll still be a basin on where that A is shown it will just be for the property north of Clark. The area south of Clark, if or when that develops they would then have their own on-site development as well. Which also another problem with some of the regional basins is in this case the area south of Clark I believe actually goes to the south into Orchid Creek and we were moving it out of that drainage basin into another one. And so it's preferable to make sure we maintain all the water going in its historical drainage path.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:12:58 · ≈ 10:12 AM

Okay, well you know because I think so highly of you and your department. I have no doubt that this has been thoroughly vetted but it is a concern because I know that for some of these sites having it be done on a regional basis then allowed those smaller sites to be developed more intensely Where if each site, no matter what its size has to have some kind of a basin on it that can sometimes be problematic for best utilization of the site. And you know, can you make those basins usable most of the year for the people that are going to live there?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:13:33 · ≈ 10:13 AM

Madam Chair and members of the board I might say that I believe the proposal we have in here does not preclude a group of developers working cooperatively and centralizing Um, their retention requirement if it makes sense for them fiscally. And certainly there might be some key sites where that still might be feasible. Remember even on key sites you have multiple owners and that's where if you remember around the Basin B and the issues we had in obtaining that property And then also on the technical aspects of making that Basin B work, we got lucky on that one. And it's just very difficult to make these work and so where they do work, we can still implement them with the cooperation of all landowners otherwise we can do a much better job without them I'm confident

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:14:18 · ≈ 10:14 AM

in that. Okay, so there'll still be that flexibility?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:14:20 · ≈ 10:14 AM

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:14:21 · ≈ 10:14 AM

Okay thank you Supervisor Gray.

PresenterScott McCannProposed · by introduction1:14:22 · ≈ 10:14 AM

I'd like to re-emphasize what Mr. Farrum just said, that's so true the topography of work it just isn't like Santa Maria. There are too many hills and valleys and runoffs and so the natural flow in work is the only thing that's going to work. It makes sense. It was a nice idea that didn't work.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:14:42 · ≈ 10:14 AM

Thank you. Thank you Mr. Farrum, I appreciate it. Go ahead Mr. McNulty.

CommentBrett McNulty I'mProposedself-stated1:14:51 · ≈ 10:14 AM

Thank you. This amendment would also replace the existing policy Flood 04 Implementing Action and Development Standard, and replace them with a new development standard, Flood 04.1. As Mr. Farrum had stated, the proposed text amendment would direct compliance with current county flood and water quality ordinances including low-impact development and best management practices. The proposed text amendment can be found in the resolution and attachment three, page two to your board letter.

This amendment moves well as Tom Fairman was saying this amendment moves away from the regional basins approach and to project specific solutions consistent with changes to the nationwide permit and county flood and water quality standards. As Director Russell noted, the Keysight 22 Wetlands Delineation Removal responds to a court order in the Adams Brothers v. The County of Santa Barbara case requiring that the county remove the Keysight 22 wetlands delineation and associated text and map references from the Orcutt Community Plan and EIR.

The amendment revises three maps in the Orcutt Community Plan and EIR, including the amended Keysight 22 map shown here with the wetlands delineation removed and references to the court case inserted here. Removal of the wetlands delineation does not remove applicable legal requirements for property owners to comply with wetland regulations in the Federal Clean Water Act or federal and state regulations protecting special status species.

Future development grading or grading proposals on Keysight 22 will be required to demonstrate compliance with all applicable federal and state and county regulatory requirements, including the California Environmental Quality Act. The resolution and attachment three to the board letter details a complete list of the Orca community plan text in map amendments which comply with the court order.

The next amendment consists of a circulation element amendment for the Clark Avenue roadway segment through Old Town Orcutt. This amendment proposes to change the traffic level of service standard from LOSC to LOSD, for the Clark Avenue roadway segment between Blosser Road on the west here and Foxenwood Lane on the east here. Since the Orkut Community Plan was adopted in 1997, the Board of Supervisors has taken several actions in support of revitalizing Old Town Orkut and creating a pedestrian-friendly downtown.

These actions include rezoning Downtown Orkut with the Old Town Orkutt Pedestrian Overlay in 2004 as shown here on the map. This overlay removed on-site parking requirements and relaxed development standards, and re-striped Clark Avenue to two lanes and installed street side parking. In 2006 the Board of Supervisors adopted the Old Town Orchid Streetscape Concept Plan which provides design guidance for projects in Old Town with frontages including those along Clark Avenue.

As part of the streetscape plan, an updated traffic study was also prepared. The traffic study indicated relatively high traffic speeds through Old Town and roadway volumes were projected to increase along Clark Avenue resulting in LOSD at build-out. One option identified is to maintain a level of service C was to install a traffic control signal at the intersection of Clark Avenue and Broadway While this traditional approach would accommodate more through trips along Clark Avenue, it would also result in higher vehicle speeds which are less conducive to creating a pedestrian safe destination in Old Town Orkut.

Therefore the proposed level of service reduction to Level of Service D supports Orkut Community Plan policies which seek to create a pedestrian friendly downtown through traffic calming and vehicle speed reduction. The Planning and Development Department prepared a supplemental EIR to the Orkut Community Plan EIR to assess the potential environmental impacts of these amendments.

The supplemental EIR is attachment 2 to the board letter. The draft supplemental EIR was circulated for a 45-day public comment period. After the close of the comment period, staff received a letter from the United States Fish and Wildlife Service that contained new existing environmental setting information including references to special status species in the planning area.

Since this information was not available for public consideration during review of the draft supplemental EIR, staff recirculated the new environmental setting information for an additional 45 days. The final supplemental EIR concluded that the Orkut Community Plan 2012 amendments would not result in new impacts or changes to the level of significance for any of the issue areas analyzed in the original Orkut Community Plan EIR.

The Planning Commission reviewed the proposed amendments at their August 8th meeting. The commissioners discussed flood and pollution control, habitat protection and Old Town Orcutt planning. The commissioners approved a recommendation that the Board of Supervisors approve the proposed amendments. As Dr. Russell mentioned, staff is recommending continuation to the January 15th Board of Supervisors hearing to further discuss the wetlands delineation removal with the property owners.

That concludes our presentation and staff is available to answer any questions you may have. Thank you. Chair Farr?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:21:24 · ≈ 10:21 AM

Thank you Mr. McNulty. Supervisor Wolk? Thank you Madam Chair.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:21:32 · ≈ 10:21 AM

This is going back, I think to the earlier discussion about whether or not we act today or move this into January. You know, when I look over the comments that were made in the draft SCIR and then the responses. And then there was...I have a letter here from the Department of the Interior and what you just said is that You reopened that comment period after that.

I have some of the comments or the notations that were made at the planning commission, the July 2012 Planning Commission. So I am befuddled as to why we would extend this when we've gone through When we've gone through the process, and I don't know if you have any additional information or documentation. And if you do, should it not then go back through the process for public comment?

I'm...I don't know why we can't make take action today is really my question. We have everything. We've had the public comment and I'm afraid that if we don't, if there's some other documents out there somewhere, we're going to have to start all over again.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:22:54 · ≈ 10:22 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Wolff let's see if I can address your concerns to the best of my ability. Although there are comment periods that are formally defined the reality is that public comment on a draft EIR may come at any point up to the moment that the gavel falls and so we just have to be responsive to those comments as best we can even though we try to manage the process as best we can to package those public comments in certain time frames.

In fact, that is what happened yesterday when we received comments from the Adam Brothers expressing some significant concerns on what had been deleted from the EIR not being enough and given the nature and the history of litigation on this project, Feel that it is in the best interest of the county and the Adam brothers to sit down and make sure that we have a clear understanding of their concerns, which we do not at this moment. So consequently, that is the basis of our recommendation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:24:04 · ≈ 10:24 AM

So let me just be clear. This letter was not presented at the Planning Commission? You just got this letter yesterday?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:24:12 · ≈ 10:24 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Wolff, that is correct.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:24:15 · ≈ 10:24 AM

Do we have a copy of that letter because I haven't seen it?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:24:17 · ≈ 10:24 AM

It is, we can provide you a copy of that letter. Basically it is an email to the CEO from Peter Adam which says that we have not removed enough of what needs to be removed from the draft EIR. It gives a few examples and then he states that there are many other things which are Detailed in the email we can provide you with a copy of that If you would like I don't have it right in front of me, but we can get you a copy.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:24:56 · ≈ 10:24 AM

You know I think that the process that you're laying out for us is very concerning. And a delay is even more concerning when you went through an entire couple-year calendar, and then we get this at the last minute. We'll wait and hear from public comment.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:25:19 · ≈ 10:25 AM

Thank you, Supervisor Wolff. Any other questions or comments at this time before we turn to the public? All right. Mr. Allen, our public speakers.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:25:29 · ≈ 10:25 AM

Madam Chair, we have two requests to speak. We'll start here in Santa Barbara with Mr. Caldwell and then we're going to go to Santa Maria for Richard Adam Jr.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:25:36 · ≈ 10:25 AM

Okay and I intend to give Mr. Adam more time than usual to see if we can better understand what the concerns are. Go ahead Mr. Caldwell

PresenterAndy CaldwellCoLabProposedself-stated1:25:47 · ≈ 10:25 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board, Amanda Caldwell representing COLAB. One of the things I would suggest is that you have at least one more meeting so you might be able to continue the Adam controversy for a week and see how much you can get done in a week. The second thing is to remember the context of this. The county was found guilty by a jury of committing fraud Fraud.

In my almost 22 years of monitoring county government, that was probably one of the most shameful and embarrassing moments in the 22 years. You had somebody making up a designation on somebody's property, fraudulently making something up And I would ask you to take a step back. I'm going to guess Tom Feenram and company may disagree, but I'm going to venture a guess that one of the reasons they don't want to do regional basins is they don't want the hassle from the Regional Water Quality Control Board that is coming their way.

The farmers have been complaining about the regional board for the last couple of years. Now the developers have been complaining, but now municipalities are complaining Because these basins which are used to just literally collect stormwater, allow it to percolate. Are now the regional boards telling for instance the city of Santa Maria you gotta cover the basin lest a bird fly over and defecate in the basin. The water in that basin has to meet standards near drinking water standards even though Nobody is allowed into those basins, they're fenced off with no admittance. Says well if somebody does get in there maybe they need to be able to recreate in the water and the water has to be drinking water standards. So what you have is you have municipalities all over the place I've talked to, I was at a regional board hearing in Salinas.

The guy said this regional board's gonna cost our city millions of dollars for something that is really a beneficial impact to the environment I said all that to say this, just as the Adam brothers were subject to fraud and abuse. So are the farmers, so are the builders and now so are the municipalities. And you need to fight this. We've been asking you for over a year to invite the grower shippers organization, the development community and now municipalities. To come before you and outline what's going on with this regional board because they're doing things to us that no other regional boards are doing in the state of California.

They're taking overly strict and obscene interpretation of the law and applying it to us This is costing everybody a fortune. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:28:53 · ≈ 10:28 AM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:28:53 · ≈ 10:28 AM

Madam Chair?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:28:55 · ≈ 10:28 AM

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:28:55 · ≈ 10:28 AM

I'm sorry to interrupt, I should note that while we fully noticed all of the workshops and hearings and the planning commission hearing it was only for this hearing that we overnoticed and sent out Additional notices which are not legally required, but we thought it was wise to do so to the property owners in a radius And so that is perhaps why we are getting the response. We are at this time

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:29:26 · ≈ 10:29 AM

Okay, thank you supervisor supervisor wolf

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:29:32 · ≈ 10:29 AM

Dr. Russell, are you saying the response that we got at this time, the one from Mr. Adams because you noticed it more than you normally would to the neighbors?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:29:47 · ≈ 10:29 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Wolff, we went above and beyond the legal noticing requirements for this hearing and it is perhaps because we sent property owners a specific notice about this hearing That may be why we received this comment when we did, although all the other hearings were fully noticed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:30:09 · ≈ 10:30 AM

And when did you send that notice?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:30:13 · ≈ 10:30 AM

November 20th.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:30:15 · ≈ 10:30 AM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:30:17 · ≈ 10:30 AM

Okay, thank you. All right. We will now go to Santa Maria.

PresenterRichard AdamAdam Brothers and Iceberg HoldingsProposedself-stated1:30:25 · ≈ 10:30 AM

Hi Madam Chair, members of the board. My name is Richard Adam and I represent Adam Brothers and Iceberg Holdings. I could speak to Dr. Russell's assertions. I was not notified of anything until late last week. We're a party to the lawsuit. I would have thought that we would have been given an opportunity to comment on the alterations that were made pursuant to the court order, as is the case in virtually every settlement or court order when there's two parties.

The two parties work together and attempt to comply with the court order. Again we weren't provided any such input or opportunity. The reason that we're here today though is that the Superior Court and then the Appellate Court First on December 1st, 2004 almost a decade ago by the way directed this body to do two things. Number one was to strike the report entitled Vernal Wetlands and Orchard Creek wetland delineation from the EIR.

And number two, which is far broader, strike any conclusions based in whole or in part on said delineation in any document including but not limited to the Orchid Community Plan. So my purpose here today is to inform this body that the revisions made in the amended Orchard Community Plan EIR were not taken or undertaken according to this court order For example, the amended Orchid Community Plan EIR continues to contain references to, for example, Rindlaub Biological Consulting 1995A report.

Another report identified as Rindlob 1994. Both of these documents are cited in and, in fact, are asserted to form the basis for the Rindlob delineation that was stricken by both the Superior Court and the Appellate Court. The court ordered specifically that any conclusions based in whole or in part on that delineation be stricken. That was clearly not done in this case.

Numerous pages of the amended OCPEIR reference a document entitled 1995 Report by Rindlaub, Hunt and Storer. This document was also cited in and again asserted to form the basis of the Rindlaub delineation that again was stricken by the court. That was not done in this case. Finally, there's multiple examples of conclusions that come directly from the RINLOB delineation that have not been redacted in the amended OCPEIR.

The amended EIR continues to state that certain areas have been degraded, that certain areas are defined as deltas, that marshes and pools exist, that grassland and scrub habitat. The list goes on and on and on. These conclusions are all descriptions that are drawn from the RINLOB delineation. In fact, they come straight from the delineation verbatim and they must be stricken from the EIR pursuant to the court order not just the EIR they have to be stricken from any document that exists at all.

The bottom line is that the redactions that are made are too narrow in scope and they don't comport with the court order it should also be noted that the area in question has been actively farmed for darn close to a decade. So the reality on the ground bears no resemblance to the description in the amended OCP EIR, even after the redactions are made. In any case, we're requesting that this matter be continued until we who were a party to the lawsuit have had a chance to analyze and provide some input in the discrepancies between the delineation and the amended EIR.

We believe that, I mean it's common practice that the two parties to a lawsuit get together to do just that. And we request that this matter be continued. The alternative is to revert to the court's continuing jurisdiction and let a judge decide Who's right and who's wrong? We would prefer to avoid this, but of course the choice is yours. And I will remain here for any further questions or comments if the board has

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:35:17 · ≈ 10:35 AM

any. Thank you very much Mr. Adams. I appreciate that. So I think actually if you could stay at the podium just for a moment because I wanted to get some clarification from you. I'm just wondering whether there is a way to achieve and satisfy the concerns that you have Without necessarily having to go through every document and every appendix associated with the community plan, to root out that language that you find is now inappropriate based on the court's decision. And so I think if you'll just stay there a moment, I want to turn to counsel on this and staff in noticing what we have here, we have an amendment That is an amended map, it appears. An existing map and then a changed map. Is there language that can be inserted that is comprehensive in nature?

That would control all references to the previous map in all of these documents that Mr. Adam has referenced, Rindelof reports and appendices and whatever it is that says based on the court's decision this is another amendment Takes out all references, all language so that we don't have to go through every document which sounds like what they're talking about doing and delete those references that they feel support the previous map.

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction1:37:02 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Madam Chair?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:37:02 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Actually I just want to hear from council and then Supervisor Carbajal will turn to you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:37:09 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Madam chair and supervisors that language is already contained in your motion. It says,

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:37:16 · ≈ 10:37 AM

where is

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:37:16 · ≈ 10:37 AM

that? In paragraph five it talks about the court ordered. Court order issued in the case and at the very end of that sentence says any conclusions based in whole or in part on said delineation. However, the concern is that there may be a disagreement which was raised by in public comment. There may be disagreement over what any conclusions may include.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:37:49 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Okay so Mr. Adam I'm going to turn to you and you see that in the recommended action what council referenced And so you feel that that language is not adequate to address your concerns?

PresenterRichard AdamAdam Brothers and Iceberg HoldingsProposedself-stated1:38:04 · ≈ 10:38 AM

Well, the redactions that were made in the copy of the revised Orchid Community Plan that I saw did not comport with that language. It's as simple as that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:38:16 · ≈ 10:38 AM

OK but if this is

PresenterRichard AdamAdam Brothers and Iceberg HoldingsProposedself-stated1:38:17 · ≈ 10:38 AM

the controlling

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:38:19 · ≈ 10:38 AM

language however Then is that enough? Does that satisfy you?

PresenterRichard AdamAdam Brothers and Iceberg HoldingsProposedself-stated1:38:29 · ≈ 10:38 AM

You have a discrepancy between, and of course the language, the controlling language comes straight from the court order. But you have a discrepancy between this language that this board is going to decide upon which we don't have any objection to and the proposed And perhaps County Council can clarify this for me. As I understand it, that proposed document the amended EIR contains language that is alleged to comport with this body's decision today. Is that correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:39:10 · ≈ 10:39 AM

My understanding is that the number five that we have in our recommended actions is the controlling language, whatever is in any of the other documents and dependencies. Is that correct counsel?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:39:26 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Madam Chair and Supervisors, that language comes directly from the court order. And it is intended to comply with that court order include any conclusions based upon the report that was ordered to be stricken. However I think what's become apparent is that we do have a disagreement over what that means, all of the conclusions are based upon that report that was required to be

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:39:56 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Okay,

PresenterRichard AdamAdam Brothers and Iceberg HoldingsProposedself-stated1:39:56 · ≈ 10:39 AM

thank you. Madam Chair I don't even know if we have a disagreement because I haven't been provided a copy or had a discussion with anybody pursuant to the language that should or should not be in there so I'd like an opportunity and I think that's what we're asking for is an opportunity. The alternative is to have the court do it for us. To have the court determine whether this is an accurate compliance with the court order They have continuing jurisdiction and they can do so. We can brief the court and let the court determine that, but I don't even know at this stage whether there's a disagreement.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:40:34 · ≈ 10:40 AM

Okay, well thank you Mr. Adam I appreciate that.

PresenterRichard AdamAdam Brothers and Iceberg HoldingsProposedself-stated1:40:36 · ≈ 10:40 AM

But I will say this Madam Chair one last thing and that is that in my opinion based on what I saw and I do not have it in front of me but it was a binder that was rather large and there's no way that my office is going to have time especially with the holidays to pick through it in the event that you should choose to continue this matter by January 15th

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:41:01 · ≈ 10:41 AM

Okay. Well, I think what I'm trying to get to is a solution that avoids having to pick through pages and pages. Supervisor Carbajal?

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction1:41:13 · ≈ 10:41 AM

I think he provided... Mr. Rana provided an answer to what I was hoping would be somewhat of a solution to try to allow our lawyers to look at maybe the potential disagreements that Mr. Rana might have But he's requesting now that we do this in January and what have you. I appreciate the fact that staff has done its due diligence and appropriate noticing. I'd hate to set a precedent where somebody steps up now and says, you've done legal noticing but I wanted extra noticing because I missed it somehow.

I do also appreciate what Mr. Adams said about them being a party to the litigation that brought this issue I don't know what our precedent is in the past, but perhaps we should have gone out of the way to provide them a notice. Did we provide them a notice? A letter of some kind?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:42:10 · ≈ 10:42 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Carbajal, in terms of the noticing... Noticed as legally required for the Planning Commission hearing, for example. However we over-noticed to the property owners for this hearing in addition to the regular legally required notice and as far as meeting and conferring with Mr. Adam, the court order did not direct us to do that. The court order directed us to remove certain things from the EIR.

We thought we had done that technical exercise properly however We now understand that there is a disagreement. And despite the fact that there was no direction from the court to meet and confer, we are willing to do so.

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction1:42:55 · ≈ 10:42 AM

No, I understand. I was just trying to get to sort of what is our protocol as we deal with these types of cases? I was just trying to find out if we traditionally do notice people or not because you might have a point in that respect. I'm not saying I'm convinced. I am just saying it catches my attention. But the only thing I was going to suggest, Madam Chair is perhaps another week to allow council to look in light of the comments that we heard.

Double check, cross our T's, dot our I's and if we are confident we could move forward And if not, I think Mr. Adams certainly has the vehicle to see us in court. But I do think that I would like to afford Mr. Adams at least a week. I think noticing has been done. I think it'll allow our council to double check, cross our Ts and dot our Is and then just move forward but I do think a week might be suffice.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:44:02 · ≈ 10:44 AM

Okay. Thank you, Supervisor Carball. Supervisor Gray?

PresenterScott McCannProposed · by introduction1:44:04 · ≈ 10:44 AM

Madam Chair, thank you and I don't see any reason if Adam wants to go to court and fight over it again that basically we need to separate that from the fact that we need to get on with the basins and we need to get on with what we're doing at the traffic level so I would ask the board to separate out the Adam issue and let them talk and try and make it work... Get it worked out And find where they want to go with this, but that we do in fact, is it A and wait a minute. The basin and the Orcutt Clark Avenue traffic change if we could just do that? Can we do that?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:44:51 · ≈ 10:44 AM

Madam Chair and Supervisors. What I would recommend is a one-week continuance to do that because all of the documents are interrelated. And so they would make your action more clear to separate them out, take action on the two issues and then separate out the third item involving the litigation for

PresenterScott McCannProposed · by introduction1:45:19 · ≈ 10:45 AM

further

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:45:19 · ≈ 10:45 AM

continuance.

PresenterScott McCannProposed · by introduction1:45:20 · ≈ 10:45 AM

So we could be ready to do that next week if in fact we need to? So that would be my motion, is that we continue the matter for a week and that we separate it out if in fact we need to separate it out. We're prepared to do that. Is that a problem? I don't know why folks are looking at each other

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:45:40 · ≈ 10:45 AM

here. And Madam Chair, I'm just looking at planning to confirm. I did talk to Ms. Black and Dr. Russell but I'm just double checking on the timing for one week.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:45:54 · ≈ 10:45 AM

Madam Chair, Supervisor Gray. It's tight but given that the board letters for a week from now were already doctored a while ago we could certainly make our best effort if that is the desire of the board.

PresenterScott McCannProposed · by introduction1:46:09 · ≈ 10:46 AM

Maybe we could just continue this matter just exactly as it is and then when we get here next Tuesday if in fact you haven't reached an agreement with the Adams and I don't think you will If you haven't reached an agreement with the Adams that we then, we simply make a motion to pass part A and C. I'm getting these, the traffic in the basin. That's what we seem to be bogged down on.

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction1:46:40 · ≈ 10:46 AM

Madam Chair, I'm hearing from council though, I think we need an answer to your question because I'm hearing from council that it's recommended We separate and come back with a different staff report. Can you help us out there?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:46:55 · ≈ 10:46 AM

Madam Chair and Supervisors, that is my recommendation and I think perhaps we can use our best efforts to try to get that accomplished next week or at least look for another solution of way to clarify exactly what actions were taking in which documents. That you're taking action on

PresenterScott McCannProposed · by introduction1:47:14 · ≈ 10:47 AM

and I certainly understand why this is a longtime fight. I'm not trying because I myself never saw this as a wetland. I thought it was one of the craziest things I'd ever seen in my life and and Never supported it as a wetland and felt the Adams were right in what they were there were saying So we do need to get it clear, but we really need this basin. We need to get on with ORCA and stop fighting with the Adams over whether or not ORCA can go forward. I mean, get them out of the picture some way or another. And that's what I'd like to see happen.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:47:48 · ≈ 10:47 AM

OK. Thank you Supervisor Gray.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:47:50 · ≈ 10:47 AM

Supervisor Wolf? Thank you Madam Chair. So there was some discussion about some of the lawsuits and then an ultimate Court case, and was there a specific direction from the higher level court as to what the county needed to do? Is that what's really at issue is interpreting that language.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:48:18 · ≈ 10:48 AM

Yes, Madam Chair. That appears to be the issue. Our staff has interpreted the law in the documents that are interwoven here on the recommendations and now we're learning that there are disagreements on those conclusions and application of the court decision.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:48:40 · ≈ 10:48 AM

Thank you. But let me just clarify, because Mr. Adam when he testified or when he spoke to the board, he said he's not sure if he disagrees. So it may be that when he looks at this there won't be a disagreement. But I guess what I'm concerned is that we don't follow the court order next week, that we somehow put it off. If we're bound to follow the court order That you bring that back to us, and I understand Supervisor Gray's desire to maybe pull that out separately.

On that court order based on county council's recommendations. Now if County Council wants to change the recommendations or modify it in this next week, then then that's fine but I think that you should come back to us next week with a legally defensible statement if it's the same one is that that's here. That's fine. If you want to modify it, but I do believe that we have to have something next week to To satisfy that court judgment.

So I don't, I just think we can't forget about it.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:50:01 · ≈ 10:50 AM

All right, thank you Supervisor Wolf. Okay so what I'm hearing I think is first of all that we want to continue this item for one week that we would like staff to come back probably with two separate motions having divided up the documentation in the way that council has suggested so that one motion has to do with the basins and the traffic circulation And the other motion has to do with the wetland delineation issue.

And if that has to be modified or changed from what we have in front of us now, then based on further discussions with the Adams family then so be it and then at that point in time we can go forward and at least make the one motion and depending on what the discussion is And the resolution of the other decide whether we want to take action on, on the second motion. Does that sound appropriate? Does that address what you wanted Supervisor Gray? Supervisor Carbajal?

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction1:51:07 · ≈ 10:51 AM

Madam Chair I think that's a goal and I was hearing from staff and council the challenges that that poses so in addition to that proposal that I think staff is going to work on to make happen, I would also encourage us to bring back As one option this motion. This item before us as one option so it'll be three options three however it's structured just this bifurcation issue if we can achieve it but if council at the end says here it is you can achieve it but it's a little iffy we still think your original is really from where you need to act on then I think we should have that as an option as well and that goes back to what Supervisor Wolf was saying

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:51:52 · ≈ 10:51 AM

All right, so Supervisor Lavagnino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.771:51:54 · ≈ 10:51 AM

Thank you Madam Chair and I also would like to see come back kind of what Supervisor Carbajal was talking about that in a situation like this in the future even if meet-and-confer is not mandated that especially in a situation where we've had a 10 year fight and we've been on the losing end of it I'd definitely like to see us good practice I think tells us that we should be meeting conferring with those that were in the lawsuit when

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:52:20 · ≈ 10:52 AM

Thank you. So Supervisor Gray, you made a motion and so do we have a second? Second by Supervisor Carbajal. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. We're going to go ahead and we're going to

move to agenda item number five before we break for lunch and closed session.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:52:46 · ≈ 10:52 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board. Item number five is from the County Executive Office. It's a hearing to receive and file the fiscal year 2013 through 15 general fund allocation policy.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:53:13 · ≈ 10:53 AM

All right, CEO Waller did you want to make some comments here?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed1:53:17 · ≈ 10:53 AM

Yes thank you chairman and board members or chairwoman excuse me. As your board is aware we have been to you previously with some updates for our financial planning for the upcoming budget today what we're going to provide to you is information related to how we actually propose to calculate general fund allocations to the department And I think this is a critical next step in moving forward with preparing the CEO proposed budget for you. As you're also aware, we do have future updates that will continue to keep your board and our public informed as the process moves forward and bring to you in a future discussion what we anticipate of service level impact. So today we have our Budget Director Tom Alvarez who will be taking us through the proposed criteria for allocation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed1:54:13 · ≈ 10:54 AM

Good morning Chair Farr and members of the board. Today we are presenting the proposed general fund allocation policy for your review and approval. As you remember, we will be making a series of six budget presentations to advise the Board of issues and progress towards the development of the 13-15 budgets. Today's presentation is the third of six presentations as outlined on this calendar.

Moving forward, the departments will be developing their budgets in January and then preparing their departmental write-ups in February. And we mentioned to the board that we will be moving forward in March coming back with what we see as being the service level impacts and outcome measures in the March time frame. So to put it in context for the fiscal year 12-13 recommended budget on section C, we display that our projected revenues were 745 million dollars for the county. The three major sources are federal and state revenues, charges for services and general fund revenues.

These three categories equal 715 million out of the 745 million. And examples of these revenues are for federal and state, which are 40%, mandated services in public health and mental health, public assistance funding, Prop 172, which is public safety sales tax. And state realignment revenues are some examples of these. Charges for services 28% are things like park fees, sheriff charges to other jurisdictions, and planning and development fees.

General revenues also 28% represent property taxes, sales taxes, and transient occupancy taxes. General revenues were projected to be $207 million of the total revenues. Some departments receive all three of these revenue types such as the sheriff, public health and mental health. Others such as the auditor controller and CEO's office are primarily derived from general revenues.

The distribution of these general revenues to departments within and outside the general fund or the general fund allocation This is an essential funding source for departmental service delivery. The new general fund allocation policy will provide staff guidelines for calculating the departmental distribution of these funds and the process for incorporating these allocations into our budget.

On October 16, 2012 the board approved the budget policies and strategies. The specific budget policy and strategy related to the general fund allocation policy is policy number 2 and it is shown on this slide. And it states that departmental general fund contribution allocations will be distributed according to the board policy direction, historical spending, staffing patterns, and federal and state mandates.

The fiscal strategy states to facilitate the allocation of resources in a manner that supports the Board of Supervisors' strategic and programmatic goals. Across-the-board target cuts will not be utilized." So there are nine general fund allocation policies that we're bringing forward to you today, and they're segregated into four calculation policies and five process policies.

Starting with the calculation policy number one And that is that each department's base general fund contribution, or GFC for the fiscal year 13-14 budget will be the adopted contribution for fiscal year 12-13 reduced by any one time allocations during the 12-15 budget board adoption hearings. So an example of a one time funding would be the funding of two parks division plumbers this was funded by the board during the budget hearings for 12-16 but not beyond this year In some instances, there may be ongoing board restorations. An example of an ongoing restoration to be added to the GFC is the ongoing funding of the DA truancy program.

Another example would be the treasurer tax collector's funding of the veteran services. These were added last year and will be an ongoing element of the general fund contribution for those departments. Calculation policy number two is that we're not prohibited by law. Departments must use all non-general fund revenues before general fund contribution amounts will be allocated to fund programs or anticipated liabilities.

Unanticipated revenues should be used to eliminate departmental use of one time funds for ongoing operations. Thus, if a department receives unanticipated revenues federal or state or charges for services these should be used before we use our general fund dollars. An example of this would be in the Sheriff's Department. If their Prop 172 revenue allocation was increased, let's say by $800,000, these funds would be used to fund salary and benefit increases and other changes before general fund dollars would be used.

If the department had been using one-time reserves to fund a balance of their budgetary expenses, these new dollars would replace those use of one-time funds so we're trying to eliminate the use of one-time funds as we go forward. Further, if there were no increased costs or use of one-time funds the general fund contribution could be reduced.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:59:41 · ≈ 10:59 AM

Supervisor Wolf has a question. Thank you Madam Chair. So Mr. Alvarez I'm almost feeling like there's some conflicting statements here. The first one said that the departments will get their general fund contribution based on last year's amount. But this slide seems to imply that should they get additional non-general fund revenue, that that will count against their base general fund. That they have to then lessen their base general fund

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:00:20 · ≈ 11:00 AM

Supervisor Wolf through the chair, that is correct. So what happens is that there are all these different funding sources and some departments get many and as they go up and down we revise the general fund contribution. And in the bad times when these other revenue sources were declining, the general funds stepped up and at times increased the general fund allocation to backfill this program so that severe cuts would not have to be made. And as these funds start to come back and replenish It doesn't necessarily imply that you want to expand these programs because we still have a lot of other issues within other departments that have been cut back, that have not been restored to what might've been a base at one point. So what we try to do is those increases are then utilized by the departments and the general fund dollars would then be reduced as those other revenue sources increase.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:01:11 · ≈ 11:01 AM

You know, some unforeseen consequences because of course we always want departments to go out for grant funding and other sources of funding. But what I'm hearing you say is that if they go out for that funding and they are successful then that will be taken out of their general fund base

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:01:33 · ≈ 11:01 AM

Supervisor Wolf through the chair. Typically with grant funding, you're doing a specific function and you're typically identifying staffing that will perform those functions so you would then have incrementally new costs associated with that and those would not be impacting on the general fund contribution because they are specifically identified for a specific purpose.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:01:53 · ≈ 11:01 AM

Okay thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:01:57 · ≈ 11:01 AM

Okay, the next item is calculation policy number 3 and that states that in general the base general fund contribution will be adjusted by the amount equal to the proportional fiscal year 13-14 impact of approved wage and employee benefit adjustments not otherwise funded that were included in the adopted fiscal year 12-13 amount. And so what this is basically saying is that you have an established amount retirement increases or healthcare increases that the proportionate share of general fund contribution will be restored into the department or added into the department to fund those increases. So as way of an example, if you had a $10 million departmental budget 50% funded with general fund contribution and 50% with federal and state and you had $100,000 of increases in salaries and benefits for existing staff then the general fund contribution would increase by $50,000 for these increased costs And the department would be responsible for the balance of the funding.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:03:01 · ≈ 11:03 AM

Mr. Alvarez, as we know that the many kind of COLA or increase for certain kinds of staffing services for you know functions like in social services haven't been increased in a long time so how does that affect what you just said because there's not necessarily going to be a compensatory increase from the revenues coming from those other sources?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:03:30 · ≈ 11:03 AM

Chair Farr, one good example is concessions. So concessions existed in 11-12 and 12-13. They're going away in 13-14 so those costs will be coming back into the departments. They'll have increased costs to accommodate and this funding will help them do so. So we reduced their general fund when they had the savings. We're now gonna increase those to pay for those. In addition, we understand that the retirement cost will be going up again in 13- 14. Those will be increased costs of the departments. And so this increase of the general fund We'll help them address those increased costs.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:04:04 · ≈ 11:04 AM

Okay, but it's not fully covering those costs? It's only covering a proportional to what their overall departmental budget is from the revenue sources?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:04:14 · ≈ 11:04 AM

Chair Farr that is correct so if you have things like Prop 172 revenues, a portion of those revenues would go towards funding those increases and a portion would affect the general fund contribution

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:04:27 · ≈ 11:04 AM

Okay, I guess I'm not explaining myself well enough but it sounds like some departments are going to have to provide other kinds of cuts and savings to their departmental budgets in order to make up the rest of what they need for those increases that the general fund increase doesn't cover.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:04:49 · ≈ 11:04 AM

That would be correct if they had no additional sources of revenues and we are seeing that several of the other sources of revenues are projected to increase next year.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:04:56 · ≈ 11:04 AM

Yeah, but some of them don't keep increasing.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:05:00 · ≈ 11:05 AM

That is correct.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:05:01 · ≈ 11:05 AM

Yeah okay thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:05:02 · ≈ 11:05 AM

Supervisor Carball. But those would be evaluated on a case-by-case basis we would go through the calculations and then study the impacts that would be caused by that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:05:11 · ≈ 11:05 AM

Okay thank you Supervisor Carball. Thank You Madam Chair

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction2:05:15 · ≈ 11:05 AM

I would appreciate an explanation and if not today maybe a follow-up memo to the board members on understanding the cost allocation policy and formula that we have in place. It's my understanding general fund departments most, if not all, some don't contribute towards the cost allocation formula, some do. Does the Board of Supervisors, I know the Board of Supervisors does.

Am I correct in that? In contributing towards a cost allocation formula?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:05:47 · ≈ 11:05 AM

Supervisor Carbajal through the chair yes most departments do have a cost allocation plan calculated for them it's calculated by the auditor controller it's very specifically Controlled through the federal government as to how you go through that calculation our general fund departments We don't charge those because it's basically going within the general fund, but all the special revenue,

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction2:06:09 · ≈ 11:06 AM

but is there a? Calculation of what that cost allocation is and should be because it just good proper accounting Everybody should know what the cost allocation formula is for their department, general fund or otherwise. Even if it's a wash we give you the money and you give it back but everybody should be consistent don't you think? And if you look at other counties, other counties tend to have a consistent cost allocation policy so this is just something that was brought to my attention by a number of folks and I was just trying to understand it better.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:06:42 · ≈ 11:06 AM

Chair, Supervisor, we will work with the auditor controller and provide you that specific information.

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction2:06:48 · ≈ 11:06 AM

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:06:53 · ≈ 11:06 AM

Okay. Calculation policy number four states that in the event that projected countywide general revenues do not meet general fund contribution allocation, the departmental allocations will be reduced as necessary to balance the budget. So the auditor controller's office and the CEO's office work together to project the general revenues. And separately, the general fund allocations are prepared based on these policies that we're going through today.

If the allocations exceed the revenue then the allocations need to be reduced and the departments will need to rebalance their budgets or if it's determined that an exception needs to be made there could be a use of one-time funds for that but that's something that we're discouraging in our policies. As mentioned before, the general fund allocation policies are segregated into four calculation policies and five process policies. We'll now talk about the process policies which are number 5, departments will document service level reductions from 12-13 by program in order of severity and identify mandate level and outcome measures.

Any requested amount over the CEO's budget target amount will be submitted as a budget adjustment request Number seven, no budget submission will be considered complete unless the requested general fund contribution is equal to or less than the CEO's approved general fund allocation amount. Requests for additional FTEs added during the budget process must be submitted as a budget adjustment request and will identify the ongoing funding source.

And number nine, year-end residual general fund departmental savings will lapse to the general fund balance unless otherwise approved by the CEO. Special revenue funds will be evaluated at year end and any appropriate adjustments to the general fund will be made to the following year's general fund allocation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:08:54 · ≈ 11:08 AM

Okay actually I'd like you to go back um I just want to make sure I understand this so Okay, so any requested amount over the CEO's budget target has to be a budget adjustment. And then the next one says but if you do that then it still can't be more than what the general fund contribution is. So in other words if you're asking for something more you have to figure out another way and another ongoing source of money that's not above the general fund contribution that was allocated to you. Is that correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:09:32 · ≈ 11:09 AM

Chair Farr, this states that if you believe you need more than your allocated and you believe it's essential to your operations the process for doing that would be through a budget adjustment system that we have. So those are tracked separately and brought during the budget hearings as requested departmental expansions for consideration.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:09:49 · ≈ 11:09 AM

Okay, but I guess I'm stuck on the middle one. No budget submission will be considered complete unless the requested GFC is equal to or less than the CEO's approved general fund allocation amount.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:10:03 · ≈ 11:10 AM

So what that means is that when the departments prepare their financials and their budgets for these periods, if they show an amount that is higher than the allocation we've given them it won't be considered complete. They would need to show the allocation that we provide them and then prepare one of these budget adjustment requests to put in as an adjustment. It goes a separate item in the budget hearings. Okay so it doesn't

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:10:30 · ≈ 11:10 AM

get stopped, it just has this extra step

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:10:33 · ≈ 11:10 AM

It is just the process by which we put these forward to the board.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:10:38 · ≈ 11:10 AM

Okay, Supervisor Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:10:40 · ≈ 11:10 AM

Pardon me but that is no different than what we've done in prior years. Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:10:43 · ≈ 11:10 AM

Supervisor Wolf? Thank you Madam Chair and Mr. Alvarez just to clarify yeah the second bullet says the CEO's budget target amount and then the next bullet says CEO's approved general fund allocation amount I'd like to know what the target amount is referring to. Is that the base general fund amount from this current year or can it change?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:11:12 · ≈ 11:11 AM

Supervisor Wolf through the chair, the target amount in the general fund allocation we use interchangeably and I think I may have had that on a prior slide. I may not have but we use those somewhat interchangeably as saying that's our target. We then go through the process understand the service level impacts and it may change during the budget hearing process but that's the original target amount of allocation of general fund to these departments.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:11:35 · ≈ 11:11 AM

I guess what I would just, if I could make a suggestion is using the same wording. Certainly. Because target amount implies it's something different than the base general fund allocation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:11:48 · ≈ 11:11 AM

Very good. And that concludes our presentation and so we're asking that you receive approve and file this general fund allocation policy.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:12:04 · ≈ 11:12 AM

Thank you Mr. Alvarez,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:12:05 · ≈ 11:12 AM

CEO Waller? was provided to all of our department directors during one of our routine meetings several weeks ago and we requested input and asked if they had any need for clarification. I'm pleased to say that everyone took a look at it, we had a couple of folks that asked for clarification and what we have before you represents that clarification where appropriate. So I guess what I'm trying to say is this is a real attempt to be a team, we're not trying to put anything upon our department directors that they would be unaware of and I find that really really important because I understand that sometimes in the past many of our department directors felt that these allocations were made somewhat with lack of transparency so I wanted you to be aware of what we have done with this Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:13:13 · ≈ 11:13 AM

Any other

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:13:14 · ≈ 11:13 AM

questions, comments

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:13:14 · ≈ 11:13 AM

from the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:13:15 · ≈ 11:13 AM

Board? Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:13:15 · ≈ 11:13 AM

Wolf.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:13:16 · ≈ 11:13 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. You know as I went through this CEO Waller it seems like what you're doing is you're putting on paper what you've been doing in practice so I think that's a good thing. The only thing that does That I've always wondered about is, you know the term case by case basis and how. How you determine on what process you go through if one department wants to increase their general fund allocation?

You know do we Do we as a board, are we advised of those specific requests or are those things that you just do those independently?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:14:05 · ≈ 11:14 AM

Chairwoman Supervisor, what we try to do there is leave a little flexibility to our budgeting from the perspective of if we do have those unintended consequences that you mentioned where after the allocations are complete, we see that there was something that occurred that we didn't intend. So for instance, we may have had a department that had a very large use of one-time revenue that for whatever reason were unable to backfill that completely But yet, we think that the level of service that would result from using the actual target allocation would reduce the service levels. So in those cases, the CEO may say well, we really want that service level. We think that there should be some exception from the policy and I am very happy to highlight those for the board in any cases that we do that because again, we wanna make sure that not only your board And the public but that our department directors understand what rationale would have gone behind those decisions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:15:09 · ≈ 11:15 AM

That sounds good thank you for that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:15:11 · ≈ 11:15 AM

All right so we'll bring it back to the board I guess we're ready for a motion.

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction2:15:15 · ≈ 11:15 AM

Madam Chair before we make a motion maybe I didn't catch it but there's a new face on the dais over there and I'm just wondering who he is?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:15:24 · ≈ 11:15 AM

I think an introduction is in order.

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction2:15:25 · ≈ 11:15 AM

Did I miss that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:15:26 · ≈ 11:15 AM

Supervisor Carbaugh.

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction2:15:27 · ≈ 11:15 AM

How can we have somebody speak to us and we don't even know who they are, Ms. Alvarez? Shouldn't that be like a prerequisite before the presentation?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:15:34 · ≈ 11:15 AM

He hasn't said anything yet so... This is my pleasure to introduce you to Mr. Joseph Toney. Joe has come to us from Long Beach and he was an analyst there for about five years and so we're most happy to have him be the most recent member of our team.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:15:50 · ≈ 11:15 AM

Well welcome!

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:15:52 · ≈ 11:15 AM

Thank you appreciate it

Roll-call vote Passed Moved by Joni Gray · Seconded by Salud Carbajal
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Thank you Supervisor Carvajal. All right, so ready for a motion then? Receive, approve and file. Motion by Supervisor Gray, seconded by Supervisor Carbajal. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you so much Mr. Alvarez and your team. The board is going to be breaking for lunch in closed session and when we come back we'll be doing our final departmental item. Mr. Marshall do you want to read to us what we're gonna be talking about in closed session?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:16:25 · ≈ 11:16 AM

Yes thank you Madam Chair. In this afternoon's closed session you have conference with legal counsel anticipated litigation Two potential cases. You have conference with legal counsel, existing litigation. We have three cases, Pranthavit v. Maganya et al., Mariboli v. County of Santa Barbara, Martinez v. County of Santa Barbara and you also have conference with labor negotiators, designated negotiators are county executive officer and director of human resources all bargaining units, all represented employees and managers. And you also have on your agenda today public employment Public Employee Appointment, Interim Director, Department of Social Services.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:17:18 · ≈ 11:17 AM

Okay, so we'll be back about 1.15. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:17:21 · ≈ 11:17 AM

Madam Chair? Yes. The clerk just pointed out to me that there is a desire to comment on agenda item 6 by Pam Fair. It's unclear to me whether she wanted to comment before closed session or when the item was called.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:17:37 · ≈ 11:17 AM

Ms. Fair after? Yeah. Okay, thank you very much. So we will be in closed session at lunch until 1. 15. Good afternoon, everybody. Board of Supervisors coming back into session after lunch and closed session. Mr. Marshall would you do a report from closed session please?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:18:16 · ≈ 11:18 AM

Yes, thank you Madam Chair. Each of the noticed closed session items was considered by your board this afternoon and there's one reportable item. The Board of Supervisors unanimously approved settlement of a claim with Mr. Jenkins regarding work performed in Los Olivos for the amount of $152,530.05. There were no other reportable actions, Madam Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:18:44 · ≈ 11:18 AM

Thank you, Mr Marshall. And I do apologize to staff and members of the public for coming back so much later than we anticipated. We had a very, very long closed session agenda with that Mr Allen if you'll go ahead and read our last item

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:18:59 · ≈ 11:18 AM

Madam Chair, members of the board. Item number six is from the County Executive Office Human Resources. It's a hearing to approve a memorandum of understanding with the Service Employees International Union Local 721 regarding terms and conditions of employment effective from November 13th 2012 through June 22nd 2014.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed2:19:18 · ≈ 11:19 AM

All right Ms. Muth good afternoon. Good afternoon madam chair members of the board before you today is a proposed contract with SEIU local 721 After many months of negotiating, we came to agreement that is very similar to what we entered into with the other general members last year. It includes no wage increases for the term of the contract which goes to June of 2014, a freeze of all merit step increases for the employees, elimination of vacation conversion, 40 hours cash out of vacation. The elimination of a bi-weekly $25 retirement offset, a provision for employees to pay up to one half of the increased annual normal cost of the retiree cost of living. And then pension reform that mirrors what we negotiated with the other general members including the elimination of a retiree medical benefit.

And I also say we appreciate that local 721 returned to the table with us, entered into these negotiations and reached agreement and that their members ratified the proposed agreement.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:20:31 · ≈ 11:20 AM

Okay thank you. Any questions from the board at this time? Otherwise we'll go to the public. Mr. Allen?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:20:38 · ≈ 11:20 AM

Madam Chair hold on I think we may have an additional request but Pam Fair will be starting. And Rachel Flores will be our only speaker.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed2:20:58 · ≈ 11:20 AM

Who will not pass?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:21:02 · ≈ 11:21 AM

Good afternoon, Ms. Flores. Good

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed2:21:03 · ≈ 11:21 AM

afternoon. How are you? I just want to read into record a letter that I sent over to y'all on November 27th to the Honorable Chair Doreen Farr and members of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. Thank you for your time and attention in the matter of the 2012-2014 memorandum of understanding MOU between the County of Santa Barbara and SEIU 721 to be brought before the board on December 4th, 2012.

On Monday November 19th, 2012 SEIU 721 met with Bob McLeod your Chief of Employee Relations to discuss the MOU delay. In this meeting, Mr. McLeod expressed the concern from county council that by approving the MOU, the county could be implicitly acquiescing to a little tough word there. The union's position regarding the Public Employees Pension Reform Act better known to us as PEPRA and how it applies to new employees, a position that the county disagrees with at our meeting and now again in this letter We hereby confirm that the County of Santa Barbara and SEIU 721 disagree on the impact of PEPRA on new employees, pension contribution and potential benefits.

We also have a mutual understanding that by the board approving the member ratified MOU there is no implicit acquiescence by the county to the union's position on PEPRA as you know These employees have worked under imposed terms and condition for almost a year now, and we are encouraged that a positive bargaining relationship is being reestablished. And that our members have approved the tentative agreement reached in good faith by SEIU 721 and the County of Santa Barbara.

In closing, we urge you to approve this agreement on December 4th 2012 and not delay the implementation of this agreement any further. If you have any questions or need additional information please ask us. Thank you very much and happy holidays if we don't get a chance to see all again. God bless you and see in the new year hopefully.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:23:24 · ≈ 11:23 AM

Thank You Ms. Flores thank you for being here for waiting. Supervisor Carbajal?

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction2:23:29 · ≈ 11:23 AM

Madam Chair Not having other speakers, I'll move this item forward to approve the. Memorandum of understanding as presented in our staff report.

Roll-call vote Passed Moved by Salud Carbajal · Seconded by Janet Wolf
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And I'll second that, Madam Chair. Motion by Supervisor Carbaugh, seconded by Supervisor Wolf. If there's any discussion on the motion? All right. We'll go ahead then. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. Motion carries. Thank you very much. Do we have anybody that we want to close? Supervisor Gray.

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PresenterScott McCannProposed · by introduction2:24:02 · ≈ 11:24 AM

I would like to close in honor of Tina Marie Brambilla, Miss B as she was known as a school teacher deeply loved in Lompoc. Her entire career was at La Cunada teaching grades third through first. She died at a very young age. She was born 1971. She was a role model to many Hispanic children because she taught them deeply that you can succeed by completing your studies and enjoying school. So to Ms. B.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:24:37 · ≈ 11:24 AM

Thank you, Supervisor Gray. And I don't know if any other members of the board wanted to make a comment but I did also want to remember Barry Burkus who passed away in this last week who was well known to this community because of his architecture work but I had no idea until I read his obituary how well known, how famous he was, how much work he had done all around the world so Supervisor Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:25:04 · ≈ 11:25 AM

Thank you Madam Chair. Unfortunately, I didn't come prepared for this and I apologize. It's just that the loss of one of our Coast Guard members off the coast of Santa Cruz Island was tragically killed and I feel terrible that I don't know his name. I do know that he was a husband. He was a father. His wife was pregnant. He resides in Redondo Beach. You know, the Coast Guard is almost like our little unsung heroes just out here in Santa Barbara. And here they are doing incredibly obviously dangerous and treacherous work. And it's just such a shame that he was killed. And it really is such a tragedy. So I will have his name next week because I do think it's important to remember him by his name.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:26:06 · ≈ 11:26 AM

Thank you, Supervisor Wolf. I'm glad that you mentioned that because that has been a terrible tragedy for that family and I think also points out the increasing issue of the panga boats along our shore and now getting progressively more dangerous for those people who are trying to stop them like the Coast Guard. Supervisor Carbajal?

GuestSalud CarbajalProposed · by introduction2:26:31 · ≈ 11:26 AM

Thank you, Madam Chair. I too wanted to ask us to adjourn in memory of Herb McIlwee, former fire chief for the Montecito Fire District and it's my understanding he worked many years for the County of Santa Barbara as well. So he is somebody who demonstrated extraordinary leadership in his capacity in this public service over the years and he recently passed away and my thoughts and prayers go out to... Condolences go out to the family.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:27:00 · ≈ 11:27 AM

Thank you very much. Supervisor Lavinino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.772:27:02 · ≈ 11:27 AM

Madam Chair, I also would like to close in the memory of Chad Byrd a young man 25 years old from Santa Maria was killed in a tragic car accident in Los Angeles and his parents are very well known and well connected in the community done a lot of great things so our thoughts and prayers with the Byrd family

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:27:23 · ≈ 11:27 AM

thank you supervisor Wolfe

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed2:27:27 · ≈ 11:27 AM

Mike Allen just provided me with the information. The Coast Guard was, his name was Chief Petty Officer Terrell Horn III and he was 34 years old.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:27:41 · ≈ 11:27 AM

Thank you. Great tragedy. And with that we've concluded our agenda for today and we will be adjourned until we meet here next week in Santa Barbara on December 11th for our last regular meeting of the year. Thank you everybody. Music playing ♪