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Music I'd like to convene our Board of Supervisors budget deliberation hearing of Wednesday, June 12th. Mr. Clerk if you could read the roll call please?
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Mr. Adam? Here. Mr Lavinino? Here Ms Wolfe? Here. Ms Farr? Here Mr Carbajal?
We're now going to our county executive office. Our clerk of the board if you could read the agenda items that we're going to consider next.
Chairman Carbajal, members of the board our first group of departmental budgets this morning will be fire probation and the sheriff but in advance of that we do have one request to speak for public comment Clara McDonald.
Thank you thank you for reminding me of that any other public speakers?
Just one request to speak
Good morning.
Good morning, my name is Clara McDonald and we're here on behalf of the IHSS providers and clients. I have personally been a home care provider for almost 39 years here in Santa Barbara County. I have had many clients in that time and some for over 10 years. I have two clients now, one who has family but the family is not able to care for him. But over time he has come to trust me and will allow me to help him where his family cannot. My other client has no family and depends on me for everything, going to doctor's appointments, cooking, shopping for groceries and errands, helping to bathe, doing his laundry We are a lot of the times the only contact that they have with other people.
We become family to them, and they also become a part of our family. Because of home care providers like myself, our clients are able to stay at home and have their independence. I would just like to ask the Board of Supervisors to please continue to fully support the In-Home Supportive Services Program. Thank you.
Thank you. Is that it for our public speakers?
That
was it. No more public speakers? Seeing none, we'll turn it over to our second day of deliberation CEO Waller and then our fire department.
Thank you chair. We have just a couple of updates to your binders and information that we've passed out this morning and I'm going to ask Tom Alvarez, our budget director, to walk us through that.
So we have two updates in section 2. Those are the board inquiry forms. Those are in green today, so we have updates in that. So we have updates for you in that area. We've also posted those online In addition to that, we have also green handouts in tab 31 which are the departmental requested expansions restorations The item that was discussed with County Council was not posted on there And there's one of the department that had one that they had not submitted so those are both on page 1 of your pack of your tab 31 and it was kind of council and mental health Those are all the updates. Thank
you, Mr. Alvarez and with that before we go to fire just want to remind my colleagues that if there is an opportunity for us to Conclude our hearing today earlier, it may lend itself to possible deliberation. To kick off our deliberation for Friday and to the extent that your offices could work with your staffs on identifying Things you like to cut, things you like to add. Expansions you'd like to have the rest of our colleagues consider. If you guys could work on that it would be great so that again if it lends itself to that we could just commence laying down the foundation for our final hearing on Friday.
With that Mr. Dyer, Chief Dyer.
Chairman Carbajal, members of the board, chief executive officer, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Fire Chief Michael W. Dyer and I have Deputy Chief Chris Hahn to my right, Fiscal Manager Diane Sauer to my left, and we're here to present the fire department fiscal year 13-14 budget. As you can see up on the screen, the fire department operating budget is just over $51 million with a $440,000 in capital project money.
We have general fund contribution of zero and that's directly related to the fire property transfer last year as well as the movement of the fire department into a special revenue fund. We show 229 FTEs This is a reduction of 56.3 FTEs since fiscal year 2007-08. 36 of these FTEs are related to fire and emergency medical services equating to a reduction overall of 14%.
The FTE reductions consist of service level reductions that include 24 fuels crew members, 10 emergency responders including engine 11 and the fourth firefighter at engine 22 One EMS administrator, three fire prevention captain engineers, four hazardous material unit specialists from the hazmat unit and four FTEs for various support personnel including IT and administrative office professionals.
Also included in the 56.3 FTE reduction are the 16 Hazardous Material Unit FTEs transferring to public health in fiscal year 13-14. Onward to the fiscal year 2012-13 accomplishments, we had many. These are the highlights. First of all, we completed a career development guide for our department, the first one that's ever been completed. This is a step by step guide for our leaders of the future so when a firefighter shows up their first day at work They'll be able to look at this guide and it will tell them how to become an engineer, how to become a fire captain, how to become a battalion chief, how become a division chief. And so really it gives them a path for promotion in leadership positions in the future. It's a guide for them to follow.
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How does that fit in with the professional development incentive program that I know you've put together, and you're hoping that our board in the future addresses that in some way? Does it dovetail into that?
Chairman Carbajal, members of the board it does. The professional incentive plan that I proposed is part of the overall career development guide and if we consider that in the near future for our managers it will assist our managers in achieving some of these career goals and really set the department up for the future leaders you know for the future for years to come
thank you
Next, we did critical command emergency incident management training for all of our chief officers. And this was for large and complex fires much like we get here in Santa Barbara County. We reviewed operational and financial requirements related to a multitude of interagency agreements. And I'd consider this critical training due to our turnover in personnel Including some of our battalion chiefs. So this training came well in hand, and we practiced this training recently as you know at some recent fires we had. This training is critical that we keep it up annually.
We also updated our department's strategic plan, and that's important because of the changing environment out there. Our department needs to react to that and position itself better for the future including affordable health care as we all know. And so the strategic plan was updated and the fire department is better positioned for the future. Updated our fire service training curriculum and we collaborated with an accredited educational institution to recognize fire service training as formal credits toward higher education. So when firefighters get fire service training, we've worked with an accredited institution to recognize that training. And so then it'll be applied toward AA degree, BA degree, a master's degree.
I would ask the Chair, even though he's choking over here. Mr. Lavinino. Thank you Chief. We have the right people in the audience today for ya. Hey Chief how does that tie in with the CityGate recommendations regarding training? Does this get us to where we need to be or I know some of that had to do with getting the right people hired in the training department.
Supervisor Lavinino through Supervisor Carbajal. It is tied to the CityGate report, it's important to recognize and it's also part of the professional incentive plan that Supervisor Carbajal referenced earlier. It's all tied together with the CityGate report to build our leaders for the future. And so one component by itself doesn't work, but we have to look at this fire service training. We've had firefighters that have done 25-30 years of fire service training, but it's not recognized by an institution. So what we did was we went out there to accredited institutions that are now going to recognize some of this valuable training toward a higher level education degree.
Next, we updated our operating plan and automatic aid agreements with the Los Padres National Forest and Cal Fire. And this clarified our operational financial responsibilities. And I can tell you that on the recent white fire, that really came in handy. We also updated our automatic aid agreements with Santa Maria City Fire and Santa Barbara City Fire which will enhance our emergency response in these areas and also ensure that the closest resources are responding without regard to boundary.
So those closest resources will respond. We also updated the countywide emergency communications plan which ensures dependable coordinated communications procedures for all county fire service first responders and I'm also proud to Report that we acquired 12 lead defibrillators through the Fire Act grant. These defibrillators are much like the defibrillators you see in a doctor's office, they're 12 lead and they ensure a higher level of cardiac diagnostics increasing the survival rate of cardiac arrest patients out in the field.
This grant also provided 80% of the funding for the defibrillators saving several hundred thousand dollars in fire district funds. On to the fiscal year 2013 potential service level reductions. Before your board is the shutdown of Engine 11 in Goleta, which has nine positions. The cost to restore is $1.5 million and unstaffed the four-firefighter post position at Station 22 in Orkut. Cost to restore is about $411,000.
These nine positions will no longer be on duty at Station 11 Engine 11 responded to 1429 calls in 2012 or 10% of the department's total responses. I think it's also fair to recognize that in the last year, the overall department response volume has gone up 8 1⁄2%. Over the last five years, it's gone up 34%, and over the last ten years, it's gone up 118%. So system-wide we're seeing a large increase in responses.
Engine 11 is a critical response resource in Goleta, also for UCSB and the Highway 101 corridors as well as major commercial industrial high-density residential centers. The recent CityGate report speaks of the multiple units that are needed to deliver enough firefighters in a reasonable time to take care of critical emergencies so without engine 11 there fire engines are going to have to come from further away to assist with these critical emergencies.
Also, water rescue responses will be delayed. Engine 11 is a designated water rescue resource so engines are going to have to come from further away to assist with water rescues and I can tell you that during the summer months we average at least one water rescue a day in Santa Barbara. Truck Company 11 would now respond to all calls in Station 11's district. Truck 11 is a regional resource and is available throughout the county for structure fires, technical rescue and other specialized needs. And now with Engine 11 being gone this will reduce their availability for these complex missions.
Now addressing the fourth fire position at Station 22. Currently we have four post positions at Station 22 with the reduction of the fourth firefighter that will reduce our EMS capability in the region and also reduce, much like Engine 11 being gone, that extra firefighter being there will reduce our overall ability with firefighters to take care of critical incidents if we need to.
Also at that station, Water Tender 22 responded to 36 calls in 2012. With the fourth firefighter being gone, that water tender will no longer be available for these calls and there are a number of areas out there in the Orchid area that don't have water and that water tenders critical in order to put out these fires. Last year Engine 22 responded to 1,472 calls in 2012 or 10% of the department's total responses.
Also one note is in the Orchard area there, the EMS call to resident is just under 8-1 and if you compare that to the San Ynez Valley it's 18-1. So in that particular area we have a higher volume of EMS calls per resident. And finally to summarize last year these service level reductions were restored by the Board of Supervisors via union concessions which are no longer available
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Supervisor Wolf.
Thank you Mr. Chair, Chief Dyer thank you thus far for your presentation and I just want to before getting into this item I want to commend you on your work on getting the defibrillators that grant. You and I had talked about that for quite some time and you were working very diligently to get that money so I congratulate you and your staff for getting that.
You're correct when you stated that last year this item came before us and I do believe it was taken off the reduction list. It was a unanimous vote by the board, and at that time You made an excellent case, as I believe you did this time for keeping those positions staffed. And I remember stating from the dais that I wasn't going to be making decisions based on potential employee concessions. Now ultimately that did happen.
I think that this service, this program that we have in the community obviously is still needed. And in fact hearing you today it sounds like there's even a greater need to maintain the service not just for that community but for the impact that it'll have on surrounding communities. As far as drawing and resources. So this is a service level reduction that I was concerned about last year and voted against, and I'm concerned about this year. So it's disappointing to see it on the list but that's how it goes and we'll have our deliberations and hear from the public. Thank you Mr. Chair.
Please proceed Mr. Dyer. Navigating toward a stable future I'd like to state that there are risks and opportunities associated with salary and employee benefit costs. On the risk side, the negotiated salary increases in increased benefit costs will currently offset the property tax transfer, property tax growth, RDA dissolution and other revenue growth that could occur. On the opportunity side as we all know the PEPRA was passed by the state. We are going to have reduced retirement costs in the future from the PEPRA and I think that's important to consider.
Also, the cost allocation charges were not anticipated when the property tax transfer was proposed. This will also perpetually erode gains from property tax growth. Another risk is EMS oversight quality assurance training and compliance. The EMS administrator position that we cut two years ago should be restored as soon as possible to ensure the department's EMT and paramedic programs continue to comply with state and county standards. The cost to restore this critical position is approximately $150,000.
Another risk to be concerned about is the capital improvement plan. The department currently has a 78 million dollar capital improvement program for fire capital needs but only 10 million or 13% of this funding source has been identified. Right now we have five stations over 40 years of age and four stations over 50 years of age. Finally, the CityGate report on operations enhancement plan that I brought before your Honorable Board last April will serve as a guide for future emergency service level enhancements.
Recent service level reductions in emergency medical services fire prevention and fuels crew need to be addressed when additional funding is available. And what I'd like to say in regards to fire prevention and the fuels crew, we're looking at revenue offset options with fire prevention including inspection and permit fees. We're also looking at some partnerships to try to fund the fuels crew through other means such as Edison and a few of our private cooperators out there. And with that, that's it. I'm available for any questions.
Supervisor Wolf?
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Dyer I have a list of potential gap solutions from your department two of which were the ones that were shown here There's a few other ones, the water tender deferral, apparatus deferrals, fleet reduction. Those would total about $1 million. Are any of those... Obviously they're not on your list but I just want to ask the question. Are any of those items something that you as chief think that might be appropriate rather than what we have just seen?
Chairman Carvajal, Supervisor Wolf. Absolutely. I think one of the one-time fixes on there is reducing the Type 3 engine fleet from 16 engines down to 12 engines That would save us $710,000 at one time. Approximately 74, I believe 74-75,000 ongoing. That fleet reduction will not impair service delivery. An example is neighboring Ventura County Fire Department which is twice our size has 11 of these type 3 engines. We have 16.
So I believe that this is an efficiency we could find inside. It's something I would do even if we weren't making cuts, and I believe that'll help us as we move forward. I think the water tender and some of the other vehicle options on there, I had them on there because what I was trying to do even if it meant using one time money which I'm not very fond of Is trying to get to that point where the property tax transfer is going to kick in and be able to help us with ongoing money. And as you know, that's all depending on property tax growth and it's slated out between seven and ten years.
You know, it's interesting that you brought up the property tax growth because that was one of my board inquiry forms. And we got the results this morning and I was reading it and... It looks as if the auditor controller staff is estimating a 3% growth. We can talk about all this later but as it relates to fire, it says that there would be an increase of about $225,000 to the fire district And this is kind of hot off the press.
Did you know about this?
I was aware that the property tax had, I believe it went up to 2.6, was
it?
3.5. Well, I wasn't aware of that.
Okay. So that's another potential source of 225. Anyway, thank you Mr. Dyer, to you, your staff and all the firefighters who continue to protect and serve our county.
Thank you. CEO Waller or Mr. Alvarez did I get a sense that you wanted to say something?
Chair, I was just going to make mention of the fact that that information had not been shared with the fire department or others because it's very preliminary. And as your board will remember last year we actually were a little too aggressive in our projections and had a one and a half million dollar shortfall So since it's such a very unconfirmed guesstimate at this point in time, we really weren't proposing that the fire department or others depend upon that until we get a little bit more certainty to it.
Thank you. Supervisor Farr?
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Well I wanted to echo Supervisor Wolf's comments not only thanking you for all of your wonderful service but also stressing the critical importance of keeping Station 11 fully staffed. That is right in the middle of the most densely populated area in our entire county and provides multiple services including the water rescue and as you say one a day during the summer is tremendous So I'm going to be looking at all options to see how we might be able to fund that again this year.
I did want to ask you though, a lot of the departments are carrying over fund balance to try to soften whatever may be happening next year. And I'm just wondering if that is the case for you, and in addition to these other areas that Supervisor Wolf has talked about as far as how you might be able to save money or make different cuts in order to find the funds for Station 11.
What was your rationale? If you have fund balance why you're not using it to help offset these cuts?
Chairman, Supervisor Farr through Chairman Carbajal. It's been fire department past practice since I've been here to utilize every and every available fund to fund ongoing operations. So if I have the ability to do that again, I'd do the same thing. However looking forward we have to address the ongoing structural issue and hopefully through the one time savings property tax growth RDA . » Okay. So you don't have fund balance that could go Supervisor Farr through Chairman Carball, I do have fund balance to use.
And how much would that be?
Roughly 2.5 million dollars.
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Okay and Mr. Fire Chief if you could indicate because you and I've had these discussions if you were to utilize this money to restore services this year what would be your net deficit in 14-15?
What we're looking at now is a net deficit of 2.5, 2.6 million but that doesn't include 1.2 million in RDA money. There's a lot of variables out there is my point I mean there is a big deficit that we're looking at now but there's a lot of unknowns.
Okay so in effect you have the money now but you're choosing to save it in order to meet what you see as your projected deficit for the next fiscal
year? I would like to use the money now
Okay, thank you. Thank you Mr. Chair.
Supervisor Lavinino? Thank you Mr. Chair. Chief Dyer I'm not familiar with station or Engine 11 in Goleta or the Goleta Station if nine positions are cut what does that leave at Goleta how bare bones would they be?
Supervisor Lavinino through Chairman Carbajal it would leave three firefighters on duty on Truck Company 11
OK, so it eliminates an additional truck?
Supervisor Lavinino through Chairman Carball. That's correct. It's basically you have at Station 11 you have three firefighters on the engine daily which is a total of nine positions because of three shifts and then you have three firefighters on duty daily with Truck 11 which is nine firefighters.
Do we have that at other stations? Is that normal?
No, we don't. This is the one station in the county where we have two engines
available.
Is that because
of amount of calls?
That's correct. It's because of the dense populated area, and because I mentioned before like the CityGate report said you need between 12 and 15 firefighters on scene for any kind of routine structure fire. And those firefighters are doing complex critical tasks, and if you don't have enough firefighters on scene within a critical time frame at the beginning you could possibly lose life and or property.
Thanks Chief.
Thank you. Does that conclude your presentation?
Chairman Cabal is correct.
You know, I do have one question going back to the question I raised. How much would it take to implement your professional incentive plan? And the reason I ask is that I think kudos to our sheriff who are going to present in a while but over the years I've noticed that they have a pretty good incentive plan that they've put together over the years And I have noticed that the fire department doesn't have much of those same incentives. And I'm just wondering what your plan would cost? I think it was 80 something thousand, I can't recall.
Chairman Carball, that's correct. It costs $80,000 and I believe we were talking about absorbing it into the fire department budget which in the big scheme of things isn't that much money. And what I think it'll do long term as we discussed earlier is from a career development standpoint it really incentivizes people going out to get certifications, degrees to be our leaders of the future. An example is a fire captain gets an EMT bonus, but then when they promote to battalion chief they no longer get the EMT bonus so there's no incentive for them to keep their EMT even though we ask them to do that because they're driving around out there And we need to have an EMT, who's a fire service personnel. So the long answer to your short question is that this and some of the things we actually looked at the sheriff's program and we incorporated in ours.
And I think it's a great tool to incentivize our future leaders.
And again, that was 80 what thousand?
Between 80 and 90,000. OK.
If you could tighten up those numbers and get them back to us, that would be great for the end of the week.
Thank you.
One other question. Supervisor Lavinino?
Thank you Mr. Chair. And I'm just...I know this is going to be a policy question and figure out how we do this but I just want to know what we're dealing with so there's $2.5 million carryover. $710,000 that is still that you're recommending in a fleet reduction. And I'm not saying we're spending this. I'm just trying to figure out what's out there. And then, I have written down another $225,000 but I can't remember.
That was the increase in the property tax. Assuming it comes to be. All right, assuming all this assumption. I am just trying to figure out where we are at. OK, thank you.
Supervisor Adam? Are you feeling like ORCiT is going to be okay cutting down Station 22? You're not eliminating Station 22, you're just doing a similar staff reduction.
Supervisor Adam through the Chair I don't feel like it would be okay with the four firefighters leaving ORCit that while the engine would be there that four firefighters are critical component in that area because as you know Those two engines are there together for quite some period of time before they get help. And every firefighter is doing sometimes two or three different jobs at the very beginning of a complex emergency incident.
Well, I get all that and I understand but we're having to square circle here and it's not easy so I'm wondering if I should be making more of an issue of this or is this something that really is going to be okay? Or are you gonna use your fund balance and you're gonna have the fleet reduction, and we're gonna be okay in the end anyway.
Supervisor Adam through the chair, to address your first question I This firefighter is a critical resource over there at that station. So I don't think it'll be good without that firefighter. The second question is, there are some unknown variables still out there. The $710,000, I believe there's about $1.2 million in RDA money that's not budgeted and then their property tax growth. There's still a lot of variables and At this point in time, I'd like to come back and really look at all these options in six months. But let me use my fund balance and let me fund both of these critical resources that the fire department needs to provide service.
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Thank you, Mr. Dyer. I believe that concludes the presentation? Great, thank you very much. We will now go to our probation department. Chief Probation Officer Beverly Taylor and her staff will provide the following presentation.
Good morning. I'm Beverly Taylor, Chief Probation Officer and I am honored to be here today to present the probation department's fiscal year 2013-2014 proposed budget. Also present here with me today are Damon Fletcher, Administrative Deputy Director and Deputy Chief Probation Officers Stephen DeLera and Tanya Heitman. The probation department's mission statement is to protect and serve the community by providing information and recommendations to the court.
We provide safe, secure, and effective juvenile detention and treatment facilities. We enforce court orders and supervise offenders by requiring the offender responsibility and accountability, and support their rehabilitation. And we provide victim services that include facilitating reparation and restitution to our victims. Probation's fiscal year 13-14 proposed operating budget is approximately $50 million.
Of this amount, 50% is general fund financed. This is a 3% decrease from the current fiscal year. This is largely due to increased public safety realignment and public safety sales tax revenue. FTEs will decrease by 8.2 from the current fiscal year, a reduction that's primarily due to reducing staff at the Santa Maria Juvenile Hall. Since fiscal year 07-08, the Probation Department has reduced its workforce by 75 positions or a decrease of 19%.
I will address later how ongoing reductions have begun to negatively impact service delivery and outcomes. While the department's accomplishments are many, I will highlight a few. The department's chief innovation officer integrated the RevQ collection system with the department's case management and cashiering systems. This integration increased efficiencies by eliminating redundant data entry.
It also provides our officers with up to date offender payment status reports to facilitate victim restitution. And to increase efficiencies while working in the field, laptops were installed in selected department vehicles providing our officers with full access to departmental computing systems. This also increased officer effectiveness by making more offender information available and notably increased productivity by eliminating the need to return to the office to update records.
The Federal Prison Rape Elimination Act or PREA prohibits and seeks to eliminate sexual assaults and sexual misconduct in correctional facilities. To address the requirements and deadlines of this act, all of our institution's personnel, volunteers, and contractors received the requisite basic training as required by law. And to ensure that the department maintains compliance, a probation manager has been identified to lead this effort.
Demand staffing continues to be a priority. The institution's use of demand staffing combined with the reduced population that allowed management to hold vacancies significantly contributed to the department meeting current fiscal year's budgeted salary savings, so I'll say great job to our institution staff for that. Females in the juvenile justice system present unique challenges and require specific interventions.
Over the last three years, the percentage of female referrals has increased from 23 1⁄2 to nearly 28%. Through the use of grant funds, wraparound reserves and collaborative community efforts, gender-specific programs and opportunities in a juvenile division are expanding. The Juvenile Division continues to look to strengthen evidence-based programs and strategies.
Through the use of one time state funding, probation personnel, county partners and treatment providers received training in Moral Reconation Therapy or MRT. MRT is a treatment strategy that seeks to decrease recidivism among criminal offenders by increasing moral reasoning. With training completed, MRT will soon be implemented in the alternative report and resource centers.
The supervision of sex offenders in the community is a significant concern for the department due to risk to public safety. The Sex Offender Containment Model, a new state mandate, is an evidence-based sex offender strategy that involves a collaboration between probation, treatment providers and a polygraph examiner This model, which has been fully implemented includes the use of an evidence-based risk assessment tool to assess risk factors combined with polygraph examinations as part of a comprehensive supervision and treatment strategy that is proven effective in reducing recidivism.
Recent military actions have increased the occurrence of post-traumatic stress syndrome and resulted in a focus on the specific needs of returning veterans. Veterans in the criminal justice system present unique challenges due to PTSS, and an enhanced potential for violence due to military training. The adult division this year was successful in their application of a Veterans Treatment Court grant.
This grant provides funding to add a probation officer to the existing Veteran Treatment Court in Santa Maria. To note, the officer overseeing the caseload is also a veteran which gives this officer an increased specialization and a greater ability to work with our veterans. Ms. Taylor can you go back? Sure.
Just to that slide, what is moral recognition therapy? And how is that done? How do you teach somebody morals? I'm just wondering.
So thank you for asking that question. It's a... Okay. Let me just read this. Moral Recognition Therapy is a systematic treatment strategy that seeks to decrease recidivism among our juvenile and adult criminal offenders by increasing moral reasoning. It's a cognitive behavioral approach that combines elements from a variety of psychological traditions to progressively address ego, social, moral and positive behavioral growth.
Thank you. Welcome.
Sigmund Freud would be very proud Please proceed.
Thank you So our potential service level impacts. Balancing the department's fiscal year 13-14 budget includes a reduction of approximately $919,000 from the current fiscal year and what was believed to be an additional loss of $600,000 in state revenue. The loss of state revenue would have eliminated three targeted gang intervention officers and their supervisor.
Thankfully, the governors may revise restored most of the statewide funding allowing the department to save these positions. A final budget adjustment has been submitted restoring the funding and the related positions. So to meet the $900,000 gap the department is proposing to eliminate standby transportation from Santa Barbara to the Santa Maria Juvenile Hall.
In fiscal year 08-09 your board will recall that the Santa Barbara Juvenile Hall was reduced from a full time juvenile hall to a booking station. The booking station was staffed during high activity periods. To minimize the impact on local law enforcement agencies, a standby transportation component was implemented during non-operation hours. With continued fiscal shortfalls, the booking station was subsequently eliminated and today only the on call transportation component remains.
With additional cuts pending, the remaining on-call services will be eliminated effective July 1. This reduction is mitigated by the fact that overall bookings continue to decline. The department will also reduce the staff capacity of the Santa Maria Juvenile Hall from 110 to 90 youth. In fiscal year 12-13, the average daily population has been 80. The institution's managers have successfully used demand staffing and have maintained vacancies that match staffing to population.
Because of their prudent management of resources, the reduction of 7 FTE will not result in a loss of staff. Now there have been periods in the current fiscal year when the population has exceeded 90 and this does present a significant financial risk. Due to mandated staffing ratios, if the population goes over 90, the staffing required would cost approximately $400 additionally per day.
The cost increases to approximately $2,300 a day for any day the population goes over 100. So, the viability of our juvenile alternative reporting resource centers will play a vital role in ensuring that 90 beds are sufficient for managing the local juvenile detention population. With eliminating the on-call transportation service and reducing the beds at the Santa Maria Juvenile Hall, the probation department has closed its budget gap.
The fiscal challenges by the county over the last six years have been unprecedented. Since fiscal year 07-08, the Probation Department alone eliminated 75 FTEs. The department has and continues to prioritize its resources to ensure that the strongest core services remain. With a reduction in workload, while a reduction in workload was our saving grace. The probation department is beginning to experience an upward trend in the adult division and any reductions beyond what has been proposed today would have a significant impact to service level delivery and public safety.
The Adult Medium Supervision caseloads were eliminated as part of our budget reductions previously to maintain supervision for the highest risk and need adult offenders. As the budget stabilizes, the restoration of the Adult Medium caseloads in each area office is a departmental priority. Evidence shows That the use of medium caseloads to gradually reduce the level of supervision as offenders successfully serve their probation terms does reduce recidivism and increases positive outcomes for the offender, thereby increasing public safety.
The department has continued to look for ways to increase efficiencies. One example is the successful development and use of kiosks to externalize workload to our offenders. This reduced redundant data entry and the need to handle and scan paper by non-sworn personnel. Innovations like this have enabled the Probation Department to absorb the hit of reductions over the past years. However, the model of doing more with less is no longer possible. In many instances staff are now doing less with less.
The reduction in non-sworn personnel has created staffing challenges, especially when accommodating vacations, training, furloughs and sicknesses. In addition, activities which could be completed by non-sworn personnel are at times being redirected to sworn staff at a higher cost. And limited staffing has stalled completion of other cost-saving projects, such as moving forward towards a paperless case file system.
The restoration of a portion of the previously eliminated non-sworn staff would allow the department to enhance effective and efficient operations as we move forward. The Alternative Report and Resource Centers were developed to provide a cost-effective alternative to detention. The centers, which are located in Santa Maria and Santa Barbara operate during after school hours and on the weekends. They provide a positive prosocial environment offering services which include counseling groups, homework assistance and tutoring and on the weekends offer a variety of community service projects.
With the reduction of the beds at the Santa Maria Juvenile Hall, it is anticipated that this program will grow and consequently it may be necessary in the future to come back to your board to request additional juvenile institution officer resources to meet the increased demand. The department currently is struggling with increased workload in adult investigations. Overtime and extra help have been employed to meet this demand.
Two additional investigators would allow the department to eliminate the use of extra help and overtime, and meet current and anticipated future demand. In closing, I would like to thank you Chair Carbajal and supervisors for your ongoing support to the Probation Department. Our mission is important and during the leanest of times the probation department personnel have demonstrated their commitment and passion to our mission.
And on that note, I am pleased that our CEO is recommending to your board that you consider management compaction and compensation Our department's foremost senior probation managers are making annually $7,500 to $9,700 less than their subordinates. I strongly support this recommendation by our CEO and urge your board to move forward on it. Thank you.
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Thank you Ms. Taylor. Questions? Comments? Supervisor Lavinino and then Supervisor Wolff. Thank you Mr. Chair.
Ms. Taylor, on the potential service level reductions and you might have hit this and I just missed it but the first item was the eliminating of the three gang intervention officers and that's crossed out. Was that funded through a grant or was that just taken off the list for what reason?
So in the Governor's May revise, the funding that was initially proposed to be reduced in January was almost nearly restored completely so we were able to have funds to restore those positions.
Okay great. Number two is, so all we have in the South County is a holding cell for juveniles. We don't have a full-on juvenile hall?
So right now we only have transportation. So on call transportation for South County law enforcement agencies.
So what we're saying is we would need to eliminate that standby transportation and whoever picks up The juvenile is going to have to transport much like we do in Santa Maria. If you pick up somebody, you have to drive them to Santa Barbara to the jail.
Correct? Correct.
Have we looked because now it just seems like we've got, we're going to have staff from both law enforcement officers up in the Santa Maria and Guadalupe area and Lompoc driving to Santa Barbara. In turn, we're going to be passing people coming from Santa Barbara that are taking our juveniles to North County. Are we looking at trying to coordinate that or And number two is, is there a way to privatize the transportation part of it where we're not having our high paid staff having to drive these individuals that we can somehow? I mean, I know bail officers transport criminals.
Isn't there a way that we just, it seems like we're going to have people passing each other on the 101 going both ways.
Chair Carbajal, Supervisor Labagnino. I know in speaking briefly with our Sheriff's Department that they are looking at ways to coordinate those efforts so if they have someone that they're wanting to transport to Santa Maria that they would look to see if there is any other agency going and or looking at doing a multiple handoff so that they wouldn't have to drive the full hour to Santa Maria And that coordination could be difficult because you never know when someone's going to be arrested and whether you've got someone in Santa Maria and in Santa Barbara.
So I think it potentially could be done, and I do believe our law enforcement officers are looking or agencies are looking at how they might coordinate that effort.
I think the coordination is important, and also I just think it just seems like We didn't really touch on the second part of that. And for me, it's like here we have either a probation officer or a law enforcement officer or CHP officer in Santa Maria driving this when it just seems like we could have somebody else doing it. It just doesn't seem like, I mean they have much more important things to do than be cruising along on the 101.
We feel that same burden when our officers in Santa Maria are traveling to two and a half to three hours, uh, to take those offenders.
It sounds since others are going to pick up the tab, there's an incentive to work together to come up with a plan. And last question since
I heard from the fire chief, do you have a fund balance? And are we saving it for next year or where are we at?
So we have approximately $500,000 in our Prop 172. And how we have used that fund traditionally and even in this current year is with the new police chief in Santa Maria PD they allowed us to get on the same frequency So we spent $70,000 to buy radios for our staff and the mics and all the equipment for that. We had carpeting that needed to be put in in our Santa Barbara office that was 23 years old. So we have that and cameras, security cameras at our camp and in our juvenile hall so we did a lot of projects this year with that one time money.
So that's how we would like to maintain that and not for ongoing services.
Thank you, Ms. Taylor. Supervisor Wolf?
Thank you Mr. Chair and thank you Ms. Taylor and your staff for being here and your presentation. I think under ADMHS we're going to be talking about the mental health services at the facility so I won't touch on that right now. I, I am. I do want to ask you about the reduction in staffing at the at Santa Maria and and there was an initial recommendation of seven or eight but then but then in the budget adjustment book for additional general fund requests it looks like probation is asking for two FTEs and No, I think.
What you said about? You know the number of FTS is so dependent on the population and it seems that The recommendation to cut staff makes sense because you don't have as many juveniles in the facility. But on the other hand, because there's state mandates and we talk about industry standards but we also have state mandates that we need a certain number of probation officers to the number of juveniles. So it seems like there is that possibility that we're going to go over and that we're going to potentially need those two officers.
That's what I read from your report. So, I'm inclined to look seriously at that But I also, when you talked about the future and you talked about the alternative reporting and resource center. The needs that you have there. You know for the while we may be seeing the reduction of the juvenile hall, we're seeing an increase in those centers which I think is a good thing because they're getting a different type of service in not such a structured institutional environment.
So my question to you If I have to look at making a decision about two FTEs, in your professional opinion is it better to put those two FTEs at Santa Maria Juvenile Hall or is it better to use them in the Alternative Reporting Resource Center?
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Chair Carbajal, Supervisor Wolf. Between those two options the staff are juvenile institutions officers so the nice thing about that is they can actually go between both facilities. So if we had two additional juvenile institutions officers we would be able to use them at our Juvenile Alternative Report and Resource Center as Population increased there and or if depending on the population. We would also be able to Have them go to the Santa Maria juvenile hall if we needed there so that demand staffing So they're it's a classification that could work at both facilities depending on where the need was
All right, well that's an amazing answer. That is really good to know that there's some flexibility there so thank you and the total cost for those two is $268,000? That's correct. Okay all right thank you very much.
Further questions
Supervisor Adam? Yeah this is more about excuse me It's more of a comment, it's a re-recitation of something I said yesterday which is the probation is looking at a four tenths of one percent increase. Yesterday we were talking about P&D being increased 8.2% with administration being increased 17%. Commission board support increase 47%, and long-range planning 38%. And it just seems like if we're going to be talking about our support of public safety, we don't prioritize things that way.
We at least equalize between probation, getting some meaningful increase and cutting downs on planning. Further
questions? Comments? Supervisor Avanino? One last one. Thank you Mr. Chair. Supervisor Wolf brought up something now with that answer that kind of piqued my interest because I'm worried about the situation if we do get over the 90 employees but do we have other employees that are in other Areas that also we'd be able to move in case of an emergency where it peaked at a certain time. Where you had talked about if we had the ones at the resource center, the new employees they would be able to be duly managed that way
Chair Carbajal, Supervisor Lavagnino. We have a couple of different options. We have extra help personnel that we have on site that were able to call as needed. They currently fill behind vacancies or training so if our population increases, we could bring those staff on if they were available. Some of our deputy probation officers have also previously been juvenile institution officers, so they're...they have the core requisite training and some of them are currently...do currently work extra help. So yes, we have that capacity.
Thank you. And then what's been our average daily population at, I mean are we bordering right on 90 or are we?
No no we've been so it's been 80 in the last couple of weeks has been hovering right under 80 so 76. Okay
thank you. You know P&D is usually the whipping boy of the entire county organization I don't think any executive wants that job, but to help my colleague Mr. Adams since I know he's new to the board this year if we could get a board inquiry form that outlines our increase in costs and resources and staffing for public safety over the past five years And the same equivalent for planning and development for the past five years.
Make it eight years because I think that gives you a real interesting picture, and it'll help the public understand when statements are made like that a little bit from a different perspective. Thank you very much.
Chair, I was just going to note we will absolutely get that information by department for you. But I would also direct your attention to the graphs that we have in the book which clearly show our public safety commitment and additionally we have provided the board with a information sheet showing program-by-program general funds so we'll use that information to get your analysis. Thank
you. You know I've been around for many years and i'd like to state Demonstrate my commitment to public safety, but I also like to balance that out with other departments And I think it just it shows a different picture in terms of when you consider the reductions. We made The commensurate reductions and other department especially P&D so thank you very much That'll conclude our probation presentation we will now proceed to our sheriff's office and I'm blind.
Sheriff Brown, I was just saying I'm blinded by all those stars on your collar. Well good morning Chair
Carball sorry about that. Good morning members of the board. I'm here today with senior members of my staff including Under Sheriff Jim Peterson, Chief Deputies Don Patterson who's in charge of our law enforcement operations, Chief Deputy Les Salinas who is in charge of custody operations and our chief financial officer Doug Martin. Let me walk you through the sheriff's office proposed budget for 2013-14.
You can see from this first slide that our operating budget is roughly one hundred and twenty million dollars of that a very small portion. Fifty four thousand dollars is dedicated to capital equipment such as computer servers laundry facilities and kitchen equipment. And while not indicated here the department has several large capital projects that are funded or at least partially funded in the CIP The capital improvement program. These include the final stage of our jail sewer upgrade and jail kitchen remodel, and the Northern Jail project.
The unfunded projects in the CIP include infrastructure refurbishments for the Santa Maria and Solvang-Santa Ynez stations. As you can see 58% of our funding comes from the general fund And the balance of it comes from various revenues including our contract cities, federal state and private grants and a very small portion from fees. We are currently budgeted 640.1 full-time equivalents. This is down 69 FTEs from the 2007 2008 total of 708.9 A reduction of roughly 10% of our overall organizational strength since 2007.
Our sworn management staff has been reduced by 28% during that same time. The Sheriff's Office has sustained some unprecedented personnel cuts in each of the preceding six budgets. The work is not gone away, it simply been redistributed to our remaining staff. But these unprecedented cuts have put considerable strain on our organization and on the men and women who protect and serve the people of Santa Barbara County.
The cuts resulted in the outright elimination of our community services unit, tactical officers who trained in two police academies, and our research and planning unit. They further resulted in significant reductions to the ranks of our detectives, narcotics investigators, gang enforcement units aviation unit, our DARE program, our internal affairs unit, our training bureau, our court services bureau, our civil unit, our crime analysis unit and our forensics unit.
With the reduction of most of the state's special distribution funding we lost also a 24-hour a day seven day a week patrol post that's five deputy sheriffs We have also been forced to pare down considerably in most support areas of the organization, but our goal from the start of the economic downturn has been to maintain frontline services in both patrol and the jail.
And for the most part we've achieved that goal thanks in large part to some innovative planning and leadership and the assumption of many additional consolidated and collateral duties on the part of the executive and command staff However, our ability to deliver exceptional law enforcement and correction services has been mainly due to our line-level deputy sheriffs, our custody deputies, and our civilian support employees.
This was evidenced in the form of substantial salary concessions made by the Deputy Sheriffs Association, by the Sheriff's Managers Association, and by SEIU Local 620. In addition, I cannot stress enough how appreciative I am of our frontline staff who continue to work substantial extra shifts while our deputy sheriff and custody deputy vacancies are in the process of being filled.
We've been able to maintain staffing levels in our main jail and our medium security jail but this has only been due to state AB 109 funding. As you know, the state's criminal justice realignment law shifted custody and supervision responsibility for many inmates who had previously been under the jurisdiction of the state to us. This has placed additional strain on our already overcrowded and antiquated custody facilities.
Staffing levels are roughly the same as they were in 2007 in our custody branch. However, the jail is constantly filled to capacity And we now have twice as many inmates on electronic monitoring as an alternative to their being in custody. Despite the aforementioned staffing challenges, the men and women of the Sheriff's Office have continued to deliver exceptional service and achieve great things.
During this past year, we have seen a considerable increase in panga boat smuggling activities along our coast. In fact since August 31st of 2011, 21 panga boats that we know of have landed on Santa Barbara County shores. In response to that I asked for additional federal resources which were forthcoming. We've worked very closely with our federal law enforcement counterparts to address this problem And we have been successful in interdicting several Ponga boats and have seized over 14,000 pounds of illicit drugs with a street value of approximately $36 million.
In the past year, we oversaw the consolidation of the previously separate Sheriff and Fire Aviation Units into the Consolidated Air Support Unit. We also commissioned into service Copter 3, a state of the art medium lift rescue helicopter capable of multiple missions including aerial firefighting. That aircraft which was paid for through private funding recently played a prominent role in the initial attack on both the White and Olive fires.
And in addition, just yesterday Helicopter 308 returned to Santa Barbara after a long downtime receiving extensive maintenance services and it is now back in service. Our Systems and Technology Bureau has been extremely busy over the last year upgrading our in-car video systems throughout our Sheriff's Patrol fleet This was no small endeavor and I want to thank, give special thanks to them for taking on this major task in addition to their many other responsibilities.
This past year we have also had several major accomplishments concerning the Northern Branch Jail and our additional responsibilities under AB 109. As you are well aware, we relinquished our previous $56.3 million AB-900 grant and we were successful in obtaining an $80 million AB-900 phase 2 grant to take its place. This new grant came with more favorable terms including a reduced match amount And the ability to increase our new jail from 308 to 376 beds, including a 32 bed medical and mental health unit. And that expansion was very important with the additional responsibilities that we now have as a result of AB 109.
Since this board's approval of the jail project, we are fortunate to have put together a dream team to help us design and build the new jail. The team includes jail expert Dennis Liebert & Associates, architect Rosser International and Kitchell Corporation our construction management firm. In conjunction with these experts members of my staff and other county departments including general services, county council, auditor controller and the CEO's office have begun a series of meetings to plan the new jail and to produce a schematic design.
We've already made great progress and we're currently on schedule to build and open the new jail in 2018. In response to the increased supervision needs that were imposed on our county as a result of criminal justice realignment, we have joined forces with the Probation Department and activated two Compliance Response Teams consisting of a Sheriff's Deputy and a Probation Officer.
These Compliance Response Team members are holding released offenders accountable by checking on them in the field They seek and arrest those who are not in compliance with the terms of their post-release community supervision or alternatives to incarceration. These teams have been deployed in the northern and southern regions of our county, and they will soon be joined by a third team consisting of a Lompoc police officer paired up with a probation officer which will allow for more concentrated coverage countywide.
All of these teams are funded with state AB 109 related revenues. Next, I want to walk you through what we were faced with initially with this budget and how we got to where we are with the recommendation. When we started this year's budget process, we were faced with an approximate $1 million deficit in our budget. And although that deficit is only about 1% of our overall budget, It was still and still is a very significant amount, especially in light of the cuts that we've sustained over the last six years.
The deficit came about in three different areas. In last year's budget this board authorized a budget expansion for an additional three custody deputy positions critical to our operation. But the action last year was a one-time expenditure, which left us with a deficit of $331,323 in this year's budget. We also anticipated cost increases in inmate medical and pharmaceutical expenses of $454,502. This was for a status quo level of service 184,502 of that was for an anticipated CPI increase in medical service costs with our contract provider.
The first such increase in three years even though the contract provided for annual increases. The remaining 270,000 was for increases in pharmaceutical costs based on increased costs and demand as a result of our increased and changing jail population. This was a $20,000 increase over the projection that we gave you in the service level reduction report that you received in March.
And the last area of the deficit concerned maintenance and fuel costs in the air support unit budget. In fiscal year 2012-13 The air support unit anticipated spending $142,864 for maintenance and $152,750 for fuel. For a total operating cost of $295,614. These estimates proved to be inadequate primarily due to a number of unanticipated repair costs, major repair costs.
For fiscal year 2013-14, a more realistic analysis was completed for these line items using anticipated flight hours by aircraft type, fuel consumption and deferred maintenance costs per flight hour derived from third party aviation experts. As a result, the Sheriff's Office staff determined that for 530 hours of flight time spread amongst the various assets fuel costs would run $199,233 while actual and prudently deferred maintenance costs would run $395,114. For a total of $594,347.
Since the growth in cost requires an expansion of our budget, we list the difference at $298,733. The net effect would be that if the ASU is not funded accordingly then our aircraft simply cannot fly as many hours as necessary for anticipated operational and training requirements. Now although we were initially presented with this million dollar budget deficit The County Executive Office subsequently recommended ongoing funding for the shortfall in the pharmaceuticals and in the aviation operations portions of the deficit.
This additional recommendation for funding was certainly greatly appreciated. At the same time, the Sheriff's office contract with our private health care provider came up for renewal We used that opportunity to meet with Khorizon health care staff in an attempt to negotiate a package deal that would continue medical and mental health services, and also add pharmaceutical services for an overall combined cost savings.
We aggressively sought to have Khorizon present us with a proposal that would achieve that goal. Our efforts were ultimately successful resulting in a contract proposed that eliminates the need for additional funding for pharmaceuticals and for the medical services. We'll be coming back to you next week for presentation and approval of that contract. Since the pharmaceutical funding assistance was no longer required, we asked the CEO to shift her recommendation of the $270,000 in ongoing funding for this line item to the custody deputy need.
Now as a reminder, this was a $331,000 request for three FTEs. To make up for the shortfall of 60-some thousand dollars we agreed to reduce the FTE total to 2.4. This will work for us in the coming year as not all of our custody deputy vacancies are going to be filled by July 1st. At your meeting on Monday, your board inquired about the source of funding for the aviation maintenance line item.
The CEO has recommended that this ongoing funding come from the general fund and I strongly agree with that recommendation. This maintenance line item will be used for ongoing aviation maintenance and unanticipated repair expenses that arise due to the high cost of operating helicopters. The fleet has gone through substantial maintenance repairs over the past year, and we certainly hope that most of the high ticket items have been addressed in the short term.
In those years when unexpected maintenance and repair costs are not incurred, the balance in this line item will be deferred and held in reserve in order to fund extraordinary repairs needed for this very valuable county asset as they arise in the future. On Monday, there was an inquiry as to whether or not asset forfeiture funds could be used to pay for these expenses.
Since this is an ongoing need that is not an option. As a reminder the use of asset forfeiture funds is generally restricted to one-time frontline law enforcement services and programs that combat prevent or treat illicit drug use These funds are heavily restricted by state and federal regulations, and they cannot supplant funding for ongoing operations. If you follow the CEO's recommendation on the ongoing funding for these service level reductions—and I strongly urge that you do—then the Sheriff's Office will have a status quo budget more or less for the first time in seven years.
Let me remind this board and the people that we serve, that the members of your Sheriff's Office have a very broad range of responsibilities. Arguably greater and certainly more diverse than any other county department. We are currently spread exceedingly thin in all areas of our organization. This includes our two core areas of public safety service, patrol and the jail.
Although we've worked hard to maintain our pre-recession staffing levels in these two critical areas, we face new and ongoing challenges that call for an increased level of service. As an example at the beginning of this year we received a jail staffing study conducted by an external consultant. That study validates what we have been saying for years that ideally we should have more correction staff working in our antiquated main jail facility Custody operations has suffered some cuts due to the recession and had other positions salvaged by AB 109 funding from the state.
However, there is still inadequate staffing in our overall custody operation as evidenced by the now partial closing of the Santa Maria Branch Jail and increased violent assaults on both inmates and staff. Other issues include an increased level of criminal sophistication within our custody facilities and the necessity of temporarily assigning sheriff's deputies to the jail to meet minimum staffing requirements.
Hiring and training sufficient numbers of qualified custody deputies to fill current vacancies is a challenge, and this will continue to be the case as we move toward the opening of the new Northern Branch Jail. Although we have many needs, we have recognized and understood. And we continue to recognize and understand that this board and the CEO have been struggling with unprecedented economic challenges over the past few years.
Your ability to fully fund any county service has been hampered by year after year of diminishing revenues and increasing costs. We have done And we are doing our absolute best to creatively deliver exceptional public safety services while still living within our budget. For the past six years, we have done just that. But I will reiterate as I have done at these budget hearings ever since I was elected sheriff that our human and other resources are razor thin.
As we recover from the recession, we need to make a priority of rebuilding the Sheriff's Office to a more appropriate level. It should also be noted that parts of our department infrastructure are in need of attention. Significant plumbing, flooring and parking lot repairs that have been delayed due to budget shortfalls are going to be required in the future.
There is some potentially good news on the horizon but I want you to be aware of and that I want to leave you with. First of all, we're currently in the final stages of negotiations with the Santa Ynez Band of Chumash Indians to reestablish the patrol post position in the Santa Ynez Valley that was formerly funded by the state's special distribution fund. This will result in a further five deputy positions being funded to help protect the Santa Ynez Valley.
I hope to be back in front of you very soon with an agreement with the tribe on this issue for your approval. On the custody front, a new state-funded grant opportunity is on the horizon. SB 1022 will make some additional state money available to renovate existing county adult detention facilities or to build more modern facilities to take their place. We anticipate this grant opportunity will open next month And we intend to aggressively pursue it and we will keep you informed of our progress.
In closing, let me express my gratitude for the status quo nature of the recommended budget that is before you. Assuming that you approve it this will be the first time since I was elected sheriff that we will not have had any staffing cuts in the Sheriff's Office. Also want to thank you for your ongoing support and for continuing to make public safety a priority That concludes my presentation. My staff and I are available for any questions that you might have.
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Thank you very much, Sheriff Brown. Questions? Discussion? Supervisor Farr? Supervisor Lavinino?
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Sheriff, for a wonderful presentation as usual. I do have a couple of questions though. On our list of department requests for additional staffing, you have an item here which you didn't reference at all. So I'm just wondering whether that is still something that you want to speak to or whether you feel that's not necessarily?
Which item
are you referring to? It's $240,678, a 1.85 FTE to restore funding for positions that were previously funded by contract cities.
Supervisor far through the chair that is a an amount that would be required to augment some reductions in city staffing in the contract city staffing that occurred and
which cities.
It's the lead I'm referred to our CFO but it's Galena.
Supervisor Farr through the chair, the city of Carpinteria reduced part of a deputy sergeant position and an admin position. And the city of Buelton reduced an admin position to help make their budgets balanced. So with those positions lost we did not reduce staffing when there were no layoffs. We basically absorbed the positions and as you go through the budget process that in essence became a budget expansion and Following the process. That's how that ended up there We're not asking for that restoration because it was get came at the source initially was city contracts
Okay, thanks because it shows on this list like you're asking for it as an expansion So thank you for that clarification
I can also add as well The City of Goleta is actually also desirous of actually increasing their staffing level so they'll be some counterbalancing
today Well, it looks like they actually brought one back in again though. That was on our list Chief Taylor had mentioned the balance in their Prop 172 account and how they used that money. So I'm wondering what the balance is in your share of the Prop 172?
Supervisor Farr, through the Chair, I can tell you that our fund balance—and I'm going to hand this off to our CFO to give the exact numbers—but the fund balance that we do have in 172 that is remaining is already earmarked for spending Towards the new jail project, towards radios, towards computer servers and I think one other item but I'll let our CFO give you the exact
details. If you can answer it now that's fine but maybe this needs to come back to us in a board report where you can detail all of that for us.
But if you have an answer now we'd love to have it. Supervisor Farr through the chair, the sheriff in essential is correct. We started out with about $1.7 million beginning balance of Proposition 172 revenue. That money's been spent on replacing computer servers. We did put $650,000 towards a Northern County Jail Project. We recently are finishing up a dispatch radio replacement plan.
And your board, you may remember recently we came to you on a jail security project that needed an enhancement of about $100,000. So that pretty much spent the 1.7 million that we had in our Prop 172 balance. We anticipate to land better than budget this year so we'll have additional prop 172 and 1314 but some of that's already going to be earmarked as another payment towards the Northern County Jail Project. I believe that's about $368,000
Okay, well again if you could detail that all for us that would be very helpful. Especially as we're going forward about the North County Jail. You, Sheriff you mentioned the jail staffing study which we had actually kind of heard about in passing some time ago and how it showed the issues to do with staffing of the existing jail. So I'm just wondering as this board talks about the issue of funding ongoing operations and maintenance for the new jail whether the board then is going to see that jail staffing studies so that we can see how that's going to affect our estimates for the ongoing costs for the new jail as well?
We can certainly make that available to you. I would imagine that if we studied any area of our department, we would have a similar recommendation that we need additional people in areas of patrol and all areas of investigations and our areas of support so certainly will make it available to you but I think you know you have to recognize that we've been having to balance what we should like to have or ideally have versus with what's been realistic and what we can't have
Okay, well I appreciate that because I do think it would really help to inform the discussions about what the real costs and needs might be for staffing for the new jail. And then my last question Mr. Chair, Sheriff you had talked about the negotiations with the Chumash tribe about restoring some of this post position these five deputy positions and I know that has been a real impact now in the past That was not only to serve the reservation and the casino, but also the needs of the San Inez Valley to bolster what's already there. So in your negotiation is that still going to be the term? Because I hear things that really this is just for calls for service and monitoring of the tribal property only in the casino, not to come out into the community.
Chair Farr, Supervisor Carbajal that is actually not the case. There likely will be an increased presence on the reservation by the deputies that will be assigned there but however they will be free to respond and we'll respond anywhere in the San Ynez Valley if there's a need.
Okay thank you. Thank You Mr. Chair.
Thank you before we go to Supervisor Lavinino CEO Waller wanted to address the budget expansion dealing with the offset of Bilton and Carpentria so CEO Waller?
Thank you, Chair. I just wanted to ensure that the board was clear on what this is. We have contract cities and when contract cities add staff we have full cost recovery. In this particular case they reduced staff and the Sheriff's Department actually then utilized these individuals on Non-contract city activities, so we wanted to ensure that the board was aware of that because the result is that the general fund picks up those costs. So I just want to give a clarification
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Thank you and what was it cost there? 246
78 thank you
Supervisor Lavarillo and Supervisor Adam.
Thank you Mr. Chair. Sheriff, we had this conversation I think last year or the year before maybe two years in a row but for me sitting up here with public safety being obviously when you look at public safety it's about 65% of our general fund. I don't know about the other members but I tend to get defensive when it's presented that we continually I want to be really clear that back in 0, It's over 119 million. And when you look at 14, 15 proposed it's almost nearing 130 million. So it's not a lack of commitment from our board members allocating resources in that area. We are and I don't want to speak for everybody but this is an area where I feel this is what I was elected to do. This is the number one position. This is our number one duty.
So I know there's extenuating circumstances why that money is spent on benefits, salaries, those types of things. And it limits you as far as what you can do manpower-wise. But I think it's important to note that even in a $120 million budget your add on that you're only requesting which is still kind of in doubt is 2 tenths of 1% of what your entire budget is.
So I think that other side of the coin needs out there for the public. The commitment is here from the board on a monetary basis to make sure you have the funds that you need to provide a safe community
for us. Supervisor Levin through the chair I certainly recognize that and I hope I made it clear when I refer to cuts. I am really talking about cuts in the number of authorized staff. Certainly you are correct our budget has gone up and again it gets back to what I said on my presentation. You've been challenged with steadily declining revenues and steadily increasing costs as we all have.
In balancing that, we try to find the sweet spot and find the best that we can all do. And I certainly am not anything but most appreciative of the efforts that this board has made over the years to provide us with the level of funding that you have.
Thank You Supervisor Lavanino. That's why I requested that other information. Supervisor Adam and then Supervisor Wolf
Yeah, really Sheriff just one question. When you talked about deferred maintenance and maintenance at your facilities are you responsible for that or
is that a general services? If it's a major cost item, Supervisor Adams through the chair, it generally goes into the general services budget. There are some minor projects that we take care of on our own through our budget but for the most part if it's major it goes through the CIP and it's through general services.
Okay and how do you define minor? Is it a dollar amount or ease to fix or what's the threshold? I'll defer you to my CFO.
Supervisor Adam, through the chair. It really is very subjective if we're able to take care of it within the human resource and the dollar constraints that we have. If it's a couple of thousand dollars or something to that effect then we'll take care of it. But if it's pervasive, if it'a plumbing issue or something that's really material in nature then definitely we bring general services in to help take care of it.
Okay, because what I'm getting at is are we going to capture your deferred maintenance in our October workshops or are we going to miss some of that?
Supervisor Adam if I might add that when we look at the Deferred Maintenance Backlog and General Services of $35 million that does include some of their projects so those are already listed in that listing. So we will bring that back as part of our plan on how we're going to be funding those projects as well.
Okay, super. Super. Thank you, Sheriff. Thank you, Supervisor Wolf.
Thank you, Mr. Chair and I appreciate all the comments from my colleagues. So I don't have to talk as long. Aren't you happy about that? But I do want to go back to a couple of things. One was that forfeiture penalty that you alluded to and that was something that I had talked about. I guess it was on Monday. And so you said that it really should be used for one-time expenditures and related to drug enforcement. Correct.
And so I'm wondering, and maybe this is a CEO question. Now we have $1.2 million in that fund. Last year the balance was $940,000. Is it not possible to have used some of that money when we were repairing some of the copters? And or is it possible to backfill and use some of this forfeiture penalty money for what we spent?
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Chair, Supervisors I do think there is some flexibility in that account. I'm not at all certain that there's enough flexibility to expend significant amounts on aviation resources perhaps the Sheriff would like to supplement that response and then certainly we can work with the department to answer a biff if you'd like.
And I'm not talking about ongoing just to be clear I'm talking about repair maintenance so that's the question could it have been used for that?
Chair Carbajal, Supervisor Wolf. The short answer is I suppose it depends. We could use some of that if we could justify repairing a helicopter that we used routinely for drug enforcement and Thank you, Mr. Chairman. paying for elsewhere. And then the other part of it that I would say is, particularly now that we have a combined aviation unit and these assets are being utilized not just for law enforcement services but for rescue and for aerial firefighting and so forth, I think it's...it would be unfair to put the burden of those repairs on Law enforcement asset forfeiture funding and instead, I think they should be absorbed through a more general nature. The general fund which would cover both the law enforcement and the fire fighting aspects of the assets.
Okay, well I kind of look at all of us as one family and if we can use this money to help offset the cost that actually we were using from the general fund. To pay for... And I'm just talking about the helicopter... If a case can be made, I'm not saying make up something that's not accurate but if a case can be made that some of these copters
are used I'm not even sure that we could use the funding in this case because the aircraft in question that had the most, the highest cost of repair is actually a fire department owned asset. So I'm not even sure that the money could be spent in
that way. Okay well maybe we can look at that in the future then as I'm sure we're going to be having some additional issues. Along those same lines I and this is not relating to the budget, but it does relate to the air operations. I had asked during our last Discussion about the air operations about the signed air operations manual And it's been maybe three months now. Where is that?
It has been Put together proofed approved and has been sent over to the fire department is currently either with them or in route to them and should be.
So you've signed it so now it's with them?
Actually I signed it last but I reviewed it and I'm okay with it, so it does go to them next and then should be finalized very shortly.
Alright so it's in the process I guess a comment, and that has to do with the cost almost $400,000 or more than $400,000 for the pharmaceuticals and the cost to Corizon. And it looked like what you were anticipating was reducing by because of that additional cost, you were looking at reducing custody deputy staffing by four FTE. And our CEO has decided to use general fund monies to eliminate that cost. And I'm wondering, CEO Waller, what the rationale was in doing that given that we have so many other service level reductions that we're looking at? I just want to take this opportunity to ask you why you did that one.
Chair, Supervisor, you are absolutely correct. We have a lot of needs throughout and I looked very closely before I put my recommendations on any of them. In this particular case, I think there were actually two reasons. One we had already planned on supporting a portion of these service level reductions for the pharmaceuticals and for the expansion of the Khorizon contract that was something that I had committed to because I felt those were costs we really couldn't avoid. And when those dollars were freed up through the successful negotiations of the Sheriff Department, I thought that it would be reasonable to incentivize those kinds of conversations throughout our county By providing the resources in a lesser amount and for a slightly different purpose, allowing them to remain within the Sheriff's Department.
Additionally I considered that your board had found those important enough the previous year to fund those with one time funds so those were two of the considerations that were in my mind when I proposed adding a portion of the staffing. The reason I didn't add all of it in my proposal is I felt that it was appropriate for a portion of the Prop 172 growth to be matched with general fund, so that's why you didn't see a full proposal for restoration but you're absolutely right There are many, many requests throughout this entire county that certainly deserve consideration of your board and got my consideration.
Thank you Ms. Waller.
And Supervisor Wolf if I could add to that. You know I think the concern that we have and I think it was shared by the CEO is that you know we were in our In essence, in a bit of a dilemma here in terms of you having funded those three positions last year on a one-time basis when in reality they are not a one time expense. They need to be Folded into our complement. They are critical to our operations if we didn't have those positions in our custody branch, we would be forced to close some type of portion of the jail and we would end up releasing more prisoners and we'd have a domino effect that would not be good for anybody so I think it was a move to try to take a couple of different opportunities the opportunity to negotiate the package contract with Corizon that reduced our overall costs and then Shift the funding that had previously been recommended to make that work so that we wouldn't have an ongoing challenge and problem in that area.
OK, thank you.
Not having further discussion or questions, I guess that concludes your presentation. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Actually one question, Supervisor
Adam? Well actually it's not for you, it's for the CEO. Wait, I didn't want to break your continuity, Sheriff. Thank you. CEO can I also ask for a board inquiry that would compare the gross increases from the 12-13 to the 13-14 year for the following departments and that is P&D District Attorney, County Counsel, Public Defender. Am I going too fast for you Mr. Alvarez?
That's okay we can always watch the tape if we need to Supervisor.
All right very good. Court Special Services, Probation, Ag Commissioner, Community Services, Public Works and General Services thank you
Great. That concludes Mr. Alvarez.
Thank you, Chair Carbajal. Just for clarification on this, were you looking at the increase in general fund or total departmental revenues or total operating expenditures?
Increase in general fund.
Thank you.
Thank you. We will now go to public comment. How many speakers do we have, Mr. Clerk?
We have four requests to speak. We're going to start in Santa Maria with Shawna Coleman. Great. Then we'll come back to Santa Barbara for Mayor Pro Tem Michael Bennett from the City of Goleta.
Thank you. If we could ask all our executives who presented to stick around, there's been some constituents that have asked that you stick around for their comment since they will be commenting on your departments. But before we get going, we're gonna take a 10 minute break and we'll be back and start at 11. We're running a little bit behind schedule so we may have to truncate our lunch a little bit and try to get back on schedule. Ten minutes, we'll be back in 11.
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The next group of departments will be Alcohol, Drug and Mental
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we have four requests to speak. On our last group of departments, we're going to start with Shawna Coleman in Santa Maria and come back to Santa Barbara. I have a slip for Michael Bennett but I don't know if he's back in the room or not.
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Thank you very much. So the name again was? Shawna Coleman. Ms. Coleman?
Good morning. Can you hear me okay?
Yes.
Thank you. Good morning, Supervisors and Chairman Carbajal. My name is Shawna Coleman and I have been an employee of the Santa Barbara County Probation Department for close to 16 years. I am currently a supervisor assigned to a juvenile unit in the North County. Over the years, I've told my 13-year old son many times that doing the right thing is not always easy so I stand here before you today because I know it is the right thing.
In early 2005 The board approved a motion directing the county administrator to provide recommendations that would strengthen organizational coordination, effectiveness and accountability within Santa Barbara County. One of the byproducts of the recommendations by the county administrator at that time was the leadership project. The overview of the program which can still be found on the internet indicates the performance management system for Santa Barbara County managers is based on the belief that employees Are the county's most critical resource and that individual performance and development are key to the county's achievement of its service goals.
In the years since implementation, many managers like other county employees have dealt with pay freezes and furloughs. This unrepresented group is now moving into uncharted territory in the county. Some managers are making less money than the staff they supervise. As you know, line-level supervisors in my position are required to earn a minimum of 5% more than the top step of the class they supervise pursuant to Civil Service Rule 410.
The managers are not covered by this rule. I will leave the discussions regarding the number of managers impacted by this issue and the amount of money that it will take To fix it to the experts, which I am not. What I have seen firsthand is how this issue has negatively impacted the morale of the four probation managers mentioned earlier by Chief Taylor. They continue to do their job each day with integrity, loyalty and above all else professionalism.
They've not griped nor complained about what is occurring but at the core I can only imagine how difficult this situation must be for them and I applaud how graciously they have handled it. I've seen this group on countless occasions step up to the plate in times of emergency at all hours of the day and night, many times at the detriment of their own families.
There's an item on the budget expansion request that will bring managers who are compacted to 3% above those they supervise. I strongly urge the board to approve this request and show the managers that they are a vital part of each department. Thank you very much for your time.
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Not seeing Mr. Bennett in the room, we're going to go on to Joe Armendariz to be followed by Andy Caldwell who is our final speaker.
Chairman Carbajal, members of the board I'm Joe Armandariz representing Santa Barbara County Taxpayers Association. You know, you've heard me say this before but We believe, first of all we oppose any service level reductions in county fire. We believe that our core services are public safety law enforcement Programs and services need to be fully funded. And even if that means literally right-sizing every other single county department that is not delivering core services and programs.
You've heard the sheriff mention the word status quo. I want to remind you that Ronald Reagan said that status quo was Latin for the mess we're in. I think he had it exactly right, and the fact of the matter is, is the Sheriff's Department is not in an enviable position as you heard Articulated by our sheriff, they're spread razor thin. That's unacceptable and I appreciate Supervisor Lavinino's comments with respect to the reality that while in the aggregate the numbers are up, in reality if you look at what we're actually spending in terms of boots on the ground, we're not at an adequate level of service.
The city of Carpinteria's decision to reduce its numbers of patrol officers. I believe that with a $7 or $8 million reserve, cutting back on our public safety was irresponsible. I would submit that the same thing applies here. With a strategic reserve in the tens of millions, I would argue that you could literally fully fund your law enforcement capability and then utilize Supervisor Carbajal's favorite department planning and development, which all too often is not planning and development at all. It's process and delay and start to grow this economy to generate the revenues you need to be able to fully fund all of the other programs and services that are priorities. The reality, and I think that Supervisor Adam makes a good point when he talks about the growth in the P&D relative to some of the public safety departments.
The difference between P& D is P&D is the only department in the county that can actually generate revenue. The sheriff can't generate revenue, the district attorney can't generate revenue, probation can't generate revenue, planning and development can generate revenue. So what are you doing to use planning and development to generate revenue? Perhaps you ought to look at your development impact fees, consider maybe imposing a holiday on DIFs so that you can get more economic construction and development and activity and vitality. So that will generate more revenue down the road by way of property taxes specifically because as it's been pointed out many times these public safety budgets are disproportionately reliant on property taxes and general fund contributions.
So our position is very clear. Fully fund the essential core services, law enforcement, public safety, fire and right sides of the rest of the county organization. Thank you.
Thank you Mr. Oman there's just for your information I like all our departments.
Mr. Caldwell? Chairman Carbaugh, members of the board, I'm Andy Caldwell representing Colab. We fully support public safety, but at the same time we recognize the points you've brought up that we're now spending 65 cents of every general fund dollar on public safety. We believe that two things have to happen. You have to, 65 cents of every dollar, we need to bring in more dollars.
That's oil, that's hotels, that's Camp 4 project in the San Ynez Valley. There is a whole list of things out there that aren't being discussed for the most part during this budget process on how to bring in more dollars. The other thing is the paradigm shift. And I know that most of you know that, and we've brought this up before, we don't think you need four fire departments in the South County. The fact that even the gold-plated Montecito Fire District is trying to figure out how to pay for their pension costs oughta tell us something. We need to change the service delivery paradigm. We need mergers, we need memorandums of understanding, Districts that go across boundary lines is versus having all of these silos.
The performance measures, not just in this section but throughout this book don't tell you a heck of a lot. The ones that are there especially if they only give you a percentage without telling you what the actual numbers are of increases and decreases. For instance, one of the measures that's gone is probation. And the probation officer mentioned this. In years past there are literally thousands of people on probation that don't see their probation officer because we don't have enough probation officers.
There are jurisdictions in Orchid and rural areas of this county that have one police person, one sheriff guy on patrol in an entire region. At night, we're not getting the job done. And until you look at the Planning and Development Department's obfuscation, the appeals process obfuscation that you have, the fact that you don't honor truth in zoning, the fact that you are not thinking outside the box with regard to how to expedite development which pays for 90% of your general fund You're going to keep bringing your hands in public of how do we make ends meet and not doing anything to increase the revenues that are coming in via property taxes, be a development and growth and job creation.
This is one of those things where we're failing, government is failing. Part of that is beyond your control to a certain degree because of pension obligations but you set the salaries and in reality elected officials control the majority on that board of retirement so you can't wash your hands of the responsibility of what's going on here and I the last point the burglary Performance measure that only 25% of burglars are under arrest. You need to have a discussion on that sooner rather than later.
Thank you, that concludes our public speakers and we will now go on to our next presentations starting with our alcohol drug and mental health services. And Dr. Wada will lead that presentation.
Chair Carbajal, members of the board. I'm pleased to present to you the Alcohol, Drug and Mental Health Services Department proposed budget for fiscal year 13-14. As you have heard over the last several weeks there's reason for optimism particularly with our system change initiative and implementation of the consultant recommendations but there are still many unknowns around the Affordable Care Act and outstanding issues that need to be addressed.
The mission of Alcohol, Drug and Mental Health Services is to promote the prevention of and recovery from addiction and mental illness among individuals, families, and communities by providing effective leadership in delivering state-of-the art culturally competent services. Our proposed operating budget for the upcoming year is just over 78 million with a capital budget of 110,000.
The general fund contribution is 1.77 million, which represents approximately 2.2% of the department's overall budget. Our proposed budget supports 281.2 FTEs, which is a decrease of 16 FTEs from the prior year. This decrease is primarily the result of the probation department's decision to contract with Corizon for their juvenile justice mental health program and this accounts for approximately 11 of those 16 FTES.
The others are spread across the department, primarily in Mental Health Services Act programs due to program efficiencies. I should clarify that the staffing section of the department's proposed budget appears to indicate an increase of 19.2 FTEs in administration. This represents a change in accounting practices only in order to accommodate changes in the cost reporting system from the state. This does not indicate a move of staff from programs to administration and there were no changes to FTEs, tasks or functions.
In fiscal year 12-13, ADMHS had a number of wonderful accomplishments and I would like to highlight a few here. ADMHS established new clinics within probation, one in North County and one in the South, to serve individuals under community supervision as part of the AB 109 program. The department secured approval for the purchase of five additional Mental Health Services Act housing units in Lompoc to bring our total in Lompoc up to 13.
In addition, we revised policies and procedures related to the involuntary hold process in order to facilitate patient transfers out of emergency rooms. And into more appropriate facilities for psychiatric assessment and treatment. Last year your board approved a budget expansion of 216,000 to address an increase in inpatient bed costs. As the department continues to experience an increase in the need for inpatient beds due to changes in practice related to 5150 holds in the emergency room and the cost for state hospital beds has also increased, we are again requesting a budget expansion of $216,000.
The other service level impact is related to the proposed elimination of the ADMHS Juvenile Justice Mental Health Program and represents a loss of 10.9 FTEs. The actual item related to the contract with Corizon will be coming to the Board of Supervisors from probation on June 18th. The 10.9 FTE impact is greater than 8.3 FTEs that were included in the initial service level impact document because 2.6 of the FTEs were already anticipated to be reduced as part of our proposed budget.
All of the impacted staff are anticipated to be absorbed through reassignments within the department, so there will be no layoffs as a result of this action. In terms of navigating towards a stable future, as the department looks toward the upcoming year and beyond there are significant opportunities and challenges. The first challenge to highlight is the cost of our inpatient system of care. This was discussed during the consultant presentations from May 21st and efforts are underway to analyze various service models.
We will be coming back before the Board of Supervisors in the near future with a presentation on our actions to improve the psychiatric health facility operations. It is important to note, however, that if there are not significant changes to our inpatient system, there will be a projected $1 million gap between revenues and expenses in fiscal year 13-14. In addition, the Mental Health Fund projects having a fund balance of 1.7 million at the end of the current year but we anticipate the use of 1 point 4 million of that fund balance in fiscal year 13 14.
This fund balance of 1.7 million, however, is based on receiving 3.6 million from the state as part of a cost report settlement agreement entered into in April of 2012. As has been discussed, the county has still not received the $3.6 million due from the state and this issue is being addressed in coordination with County Council, the CEO's office and the auditor controller.
While significant improvements have been made in ADMHS's fiscal monitoring and cost settlement process, there remain unresolved cost report liabilities from past years due to it taking five years for a fiscal year to be audited by the state. The CEO's office and ADMHS will report to the Board of Supervisors at its June 25th meeting the current status of ADMHHS's cost report liabilities and present a recommendation on a mechanism to fund new liabilities.
Another issue of concern is the possibility of the state reducing ADMHS's realignment revenue by as much as $2.5 million in fiscal year 13-14 through reductions in funding for early and periodic screening, diagnosis and treatment, the alcohol and drug program, and 1991 realignment funds. Loss of these realignment funds would result in a significant adjustment in program and service levels during the upcoming year.
The Mental Health Services Act, as was presented to the Board of Supervisors on May 7th is using its reserves to sustain clinical operations and these reserves are anticipated to be exhausted in fiscal year 14-15 if there are no significant changes. We will be working over the next year to begin adjusting MHSA programs to match annual revenues. Impacts of the Affordable Care Act are uncertain, but we are guardedly optimistic from an ADMHS perspective. The Affordable Care Act should have a positive impact on revenues through new Medi-Cal reimbursements for the PUF, MHSA programs and outpatient clinics currently serving the uninsured.
We will also need to analyze our clinical capacity as the ACA is implemented. There is a risk as previously mentioned that the state could ultimately look at pulling back more of their realignment funding that currently gets allocated to counties for indigent care support. Lastly, there's uncertainty in the cost of programming support for the statewide KDA settlement which requires counties to augment their services to children and young adults in or at risk of entering the child welfare system.
In conclusion While there are many unknowns and potential challenges, it is an exciting time for ADMHS as we move forward with our system change process in order to further our mission of promoting the prevention of and recovery from addiction and mental illness. This ends our presentation, and we'll be happy to answer any questions.
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Questions? Comments? Supervisor Adler?
I think it's going to get worn in one of these days. I'm wondering if you go back to the third slide talking about secured approval for the purchase of five additional Mental Health Services Act units in Lompoc. Who did you get approval from?
This is Chair Carbajal, Supervisor Adam. This is through the MHSA program so the approval was through the state.
Okay do anybody bother asking Lompoc if that was okay with them?
This is under our housing coordination section of our department, but it's my understanding that there were stakeholder groups and it followed the values and the principles and the guidelines of MHSA for all planning.
Okay well I'm going to have to check with Mayor Lynn. I get frequent complaints that Lompoc seems to be the place that we're going to send that class of people. So, you know, I'm wondering how many beds do we have on the South Coast for these types of beds?
I'll gladly take those units in my district if there's an interest to give those up.
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yeah but how many do we have?
Chair Carbajal, Supervisor Adam we can certainly follow this up and give you an accounting of all the beds throughout the county.
Okay
That'd be great There's an interest to shift them I stand ready supervisor Fudd and supervisor Wolf
Thank you Mr. Chair, Dr. Wada in looking at a request from the department to restore full funding for contracted psychiatric inpatient beds at state hospitals $216,000 so this was something that we funded last year with one time money Which I believe I supported. The question I have now is with the department so much in transition, the report out implementation phase and it's not like we don't have a contract. In fact, I think we just had some addendums come through for the end of this year To add a significant amount of money to those contracts. So I'm just wondering whether you feel that these funds are necessary now for the board to consider? Or whether there is enough money in the contracts already, to kind of carry the department through for the needs as far as you can tell?
Until we have a better understanding of this transition period with the understanding that if utilization is higher than we think, that you could come back later in the year and ask for the additional money.
Chair Carbajal, Supervisor Farr. You are correct with the consultant recommendations we are currently analyzing our entire inpatient system of care both with the PUF and out-of-county facilities. Last year the $216,000 was needed and in fact our actual expenditures on beds exceeded what was in our budget And so as I mentioned during the presentation, without significant changes to our inpatient system and our PUF we actually project a million dollar gap between revenues in our budget and expenditures. So this $216,000 would certainly go towards that as well as help to pay for increased costs of state beds which are certainly still needed.
If we don't receive the 216, we would likely expire that budget category for inpatient services much earlier in the year.
Okay. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Chair.
Thank you. Supervisor Wolf?
Can I just get a follow-up on that? Sure. Is that okay? Supervisor Labanino? Thank you so Dr. Wada then what would happen if that exhausts halfway through the year? What would happen to those people that would be going to
those regular beds? Chair Carbajal, Supervisor Lavinino. Our hope is that through this change initiative process and looking at our system we'll have solutions that will create savings so that we will be able to have enough funding through to last longer in the year. If we were to expire that during the year we would need to work with the CEO's office and likely come back before the Board of Supervisors with an update. Thank you.
Supervisor Wolf?
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to say that I'm very happy that we had our workshop in March so that we had that opportunity to discuss service level impacts throughout the county and As I'm sure you all recall, one of the concerns that I had and raised was the potential of eliminating our ADMHS support in the Santa Maria Juvenile Hall and the possibility of contracting out with a private provider. And so in the interim it's given me a chance to dig a little bit more deeply into this.
I am, with utmost respect for everyone who's been involved. I just am very concerned with us moving in this direction and I had completed a board inquiry form The response was that this service provider would provide the same level of service. And then in a follow-up, in a memorandum that I received today, it's very specific on the hours of service for our juvenile hall and Los Prados. But the proposal that we're going to be seeing next week, I think it's next week, the contract It just says to be provided in every section. It doesn't list the hours per week or the time that's going to be provided to our youth.
If it makes sense to do something, if something is not working I understand that we have to look elsewhere. But when I see in this board inquiry form about the excellent working relationship that probation has with alcohol, drug and mental health and the excellent outcomes that we're seeing from the folks who are providing the service for alcohol, drug and mental health, I find it really difficult To to make a change in what we know is working with what we also know is a really difficult population at the hall and one of the things that.
Which I think is great with what probation has done through their assessment, is making sure that the kids who are in the hall or the kids that are not in the hall are receiving a different form of care. Whereas the ones that are in the hall are receiving real specific evidence-based care. I don't know if it's the moral... I just know that there's a lot of programs that is being provided.
And for the expected savings, which is listed here as $300,000 and that's the approximate savings I've heard 250, 300. And Dr. Watt, I know that you've been working with probation to try and whittle that number down. I just cannot feel comfortable at this point moving forward with that recommendation. I think, at the very least, this board should look at the contract that's coming before us next week before we make this major shift In in care for our juveniles, we you know it happened in the sheriff's department and.
You know we can agree or disagree on the amount of increase that were seen from horizon and apparently they've negotiated their prices and. And good for them. But when I look at this item that's coming to us next week, it's a combination of both probation and the sheriff's department and both the mental health side and the physical health side. That you will agree that on this particular issue, we can just hold off on making this decision.
It's just too important and we need to have a better discussion about what this change will mean. I just have one more comment and I maybe should've made the comment during probation's presentation but When the suggestion was made by our prior chief to close the Santa Barbara Juvenile Hall, I was very concerned about that. But she convinced me that it was the right thing to do and so we, well not...I just voted along with that recommendation.
I continue to have, with Chief Taylor utmost respect in what she does and what she recommends. What I just think is our responsibility is if we can or if the CEO can find the money to supplement the Sheriff's Department then I think we should be able to find the money to maintain, let's just maintain The service that we have in the hall that we know is working, it's not broken. So I just wanted to make that statement and hope we can consider that on our board deliberations. Thank you Mr. Chair and Dr. Wada thank you for your presentation.
You want to respond, Dr. Waters?
Chair Carbajal, Supervisor Wolff. I certainly wanted to recognize ADMHS staff because I think they are recognized for the quality and commitment of the program but I did wanna clarify one thing on the board inquiry form. My understanding and maybe probation can confirm but my understanding is that where it says to be provided that actually means to be provided at the same level not to be provided at a later time so My understanding with all the conversations with Corizon is that they have committed to the same level of service as what ADMHS is currently providing.
Supervisor Wolf? Thank you for that and I guess I would follow up when I look at the staffing between what Corizon and what we currently have, and this is on my board inquiry form It appears that Corizon in some instances may have more staff, but what they're including is their current medical director. So they're using their medical staff and combining it with what they anticipate for mental health And the total may appear that it's more staffing than our current ADMH staff.
But if you dig in, that's not the case. So I guess I would ask how are they going to? If, I don't disagree, I mean, I don't know but if what you're saying is accurate then I guess my question would be how are they able to provide the services at the same level with less people? And I would also ask what in the contract from Corizon, they talk about their philosophies and treatment of mental health clients. You know we have a very specific protocol in juvenile hall Only because of what I've learned from being on the Juvenile Justice Coordinating Council. I am certainly not an expert, but all I want to know is are they the same? Are the protocols the same?
And so that's why I think we need a more in-depth discussion. But thank you for that Dr. Watter.
That concludes this presentation. If there's any more questions Supervisor Adam?
Was there a short answer to that? Because as I understand it, we really can't leave here without a placeholder. And we can do a budget revision later but I don't understand how we leave this point or at least get to Friday without some kind of a placeholder in the budget for this
item. I guess I've been thinking about that. So in one of my follow-up BIFs was to break out the cost. It was estimated, at least in here about $300,000. Is that what you're still at? The $300,000?
Chair Carbajal, Supervisor Wolff, just to clarify... Ms. Taylor.
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Chair Carbajal Supervisor Wolf I'm going to ask our Administrative Deputy Director Damon Fletcher just to touch on the fiscal piece and then I can come back and talk about the level of services
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Chair Carbajal, members of the board. The proposal that probation has put forward is contracting out all of the juvenile justice mental health services. Not all of those components are being contracted out with Corizon. So when we talk about the $300,000, that's specifically mental health services in our institutions in the camp and in the juvenile hall. And that's a $300,000 of approximate savings. In addition, we're contracting out Court-ordered medical evaluations and that is actually contracted out to local psychiatrists, which is a different piece of this. That's not in here that actually increases the say it's included in the service level impacts at alcohol drug mental health services presented but it hasn't been a discussion because there hasn't been any opposition to that so that's another $108,000 of savings that are within our budget and then the other piece to it is as you mentioned there's a spreading Director for their medical services and some of the RN and LVN, and there's an economy of scale for them doing all of the services.
And so if we choose not to contract with Corizon for the mental health piece, there is a piece of administration that goes back to the medical side which is about $80,000. So the entire savings to probation of contracting out all of these services and the economy of scale of that combined contract is actually in the neighborhood of $500,000 total savings.
So it just so I understand, so is Corizon saying that if you don't include the mental health piece then their medical director and the other pieces will increase?
Right. We currently have a medical director who oversees their medical program because that person is now overseeing both Programs there's a spreading of that cost against both programs so we can see the actual cost of delivering the mental health services. That person would still be a full time person if mental health didn't exist, so that cost would go back to the medical and there is that. So of that contract, there was a piece of that mental health that would go back to medical if we don't contract with mental health, correct?
So the bottom line it so. So then you have one medical director which is what we have now and now you're spreading that medical director into the mental health piece which I understand is financially. I guess if you look at economies of scale one could say that makes sense however you have that one person overseeing the physical health and the mental health piece. Correct. So in some ways you are losing The benefit of having that one medical director. And that's right? Right. Okay.
Well, if Supervisor Adam and I see CEO Waller wants to say something...
Thank you, Chair. I was just going to respond to Supervisor Adams, where do we go from here? As I know your board was aware on our long-range calendar, we had intended on having the Corizon contract to you last week so that this discussion could have been completed prior to budget hearings. However for many reasons the letter had to be delayed until next week.
What you could do if your board were to choose is and then have your detailed discussion on the merits of whether or not Verizon versus ADMHS is the appropriate way to go. And at that time we could come back to your board with a budget revision which would, in the event that you select ADMHS, direct probation to go within their department and find the half a million dollars for other service cuts for your consideration or that you would direct us to provide additional funding. So I guess what I'm saying is, you could move forward with your budget as-is and then it could be adjusted with your decision on the 18th.
Well then my remaining question in the one that started out was from both probations and ADMHS's standpoint Since you're, I assume you're both comfortable with delegating this to Corizon or else you wouldn't be proposing it right?
Chair Carbajal, Supervisor Adam that is correct. We have a contract in place that outlines specific services quality of services uh... quality assurances that we are confident that they will meet those uh... that level of service. We've worked collaboratively with ADMHS as we developed our contract to ensure that the current level of service was included in our current contract um so I Have a relationship of about seven years working with.
Horizon on our medical side and we have not had anything but stellar quality services from them. Don't answer yes
and doctor.
Chair Carbajal, Supervisor Adam. I would support Chief Taylor's assessment. We've been working with probation department for quite some time on this issue. Quality is certainly important to us as well because once these individuals leave their facilities they're going to enter into our outpatient system so the care certainly needs to be coordinated. But we believe that probation has done their due diligence in checking references for Verizon and other locations where the service is provided. They've also had good experiences on the medical side. Certainly, probation will need to monitor in terms of level of service quality and outcomes and hold them accountable but we believe that they've done that with the medical side and we would support them in this action.
Okay thank you.
I just have one question. Are there any current employees that would be displaced by this?
Chair Carbajal, no the 11 FTEs that will be impacted are able to be reassigned to other vacant positions or positions that we've been filling with extra help in preparation for this potential action.
Okay thank you. Supervisor Barr and Supervisor Wolf
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Well kind of putting aside the question that Supervisor Wolf has raised for the moment I do just want to say that I am unhappy about the order this has been brought to us in. I think that the proper order would have been the big picture look we had from ADMHS and what's going on and the transition And then the Corizon contract, which not only affects these departments but also the Sheriff's Department.
And let us have that discussion about the contract yes no maybe something in the middle and then have it come to budget to implement whatever the previous actions were. But you know I have to say having it come the week after budget Is not at all the right order in my opinion, so I'm unhappy that this is the way it's turned out. Thank you Mr. Chair
Thank you. Supervisor Wolf?
Thank you, Mr. Chair and the issue of the FTEs I'm always glad to see that we're not letting folks go that we don't need anymore but it also begs the question that they're being moved into a place in ADMHS where presumably they are needed so I just want to make that statement. And also when this does come back to us for the contract, there was a notation in the board inquiry form about contacting other places that are using Corizon. When this comes back to us, I'd like to make sure that these contacts have been doing work in the juvenile justice system and in California.
And then I'd also like some information, maybe we can get this from probation on ensuring or maybe not ensuring that their programs are either the same or different than what ADMHS has been providing at the camp and at the hall. Thank you Mr. Chair.
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Okay, I believe not having further discussion. Questions? Thank you very much. We will now proceed to child support services.
Ms.
Topliff? Good morning. I'm Karen Topliff, Director of Santa
Barbara County's Child Support Department. Here with me today are Joni Maiden, Assistant Director and Shirley Moore Business Manager. Our annual budget is $9.4 million, two-thirds federal one-third state. We have no county general funds and the governor's 2010 proposal to realign child support to county responsibility does not appear to be moving forward. We expect to continue to have our funding come from state and federal sources.
We have just over 80 staff, down from 110 in fiscal year 2007-8. Like every child support agency in the nation we are measured by our performance in meeting program goals. In Santa Barbara this year we received a statewide report award for excessive increased collections. We also beat statewide averages and our own prior performance in each of our five major performance areas. Paternity establishment-
One second, Ms. Topliff to Supervisor Adam. That sounds like you got a
ticket.
Excessive collections? Excessive collections.
That's amazing huh?
Well we are required to increase our collections every year so not only did we increase our collections but Exceeded the amount to which we are expected to increase our collection
so much. So that they called it excessive.
Well, I called it excessive. Congratulations. Thank you. That's kind of like
excessive profit in the
private sector.
Please proceed.
We are continuing to excel in paternity support orders collections on current support collections on arrears and cost effectiveness Of the $28 million we collected and distributed last year, 23.1 million went directly to families and 4.9 million reimbursed the government for public assistance previously made to some of those same families. Our program helps people get off welfare and stay off welfare.
Technology is still a major secret to our success. We've had a stream of visitors from other counties this year, as we show off our time-saving secure systems for compiling electronic customer data into virtual files that our attorneys use in court. We will be presenting information on this exciting project at Child Support Attorney College later this year and anticipate that virtual court files will soon become the norm throughout California.
Despite our small IT shop, we are proud that Santa Barbara enjoys an outsized reputation for innovation throughout the state child support world. Other projects include use of SharePoint software to help staff quickly find reference materials about the 100,000 things every child support worker needs to know. We're now working with software that mimics those old-fashioned typewriters letting staff enter information into preprinted forms without touching an ink ribbon or a carriage return.
Also this year, our feet were put to the fire with an extensive state conducted security audit. Preparation for the audit took us several years and required everything from structural changes in our offices to modifications in our business practices. We were very pleased and relieved to receive perfect marks in the 87 areas under our control. Also of great satisfaction was child support's clean rating in the county single audit.
I've been fortunate enough to take a few vacation trips out of the country during the seven years I've served as the director of the Child Support Program. You can't believe how envious other people are when I describe to them our US Child Support Program. Part of it has to do with our tough enforcement tools, increasingly automated so that there's no place to hide.
However the program is also increasingly family focused, understanding and aiding in the leg up that many customers need in order to go from being willing to being able to pay child support. In Santa Barbara, one of the things we've done this year is to train our staff in the many employment services offered by EDD so that they may provide referrals and information to our customers.
In the past six months, our collections from unemployment insurance have dropped by over 25%, while our collections from wage assignments have increased by over 6% or a half a million dollars. While this is the result of many factors, we are proud that we're doing what we can to help today's struggling families. We are not reporting any service level reductions for fiscal year 2013-14, although our staff continues to shrink painfully.
Labor concessions were the only thing that saved us from layoffs this year when we were hit with a last minute funding reduction of $175,000. I thank my coworkers for these sacrifices. This year court funding reductions may create an impact in our world We are trying to minimize court time through efficiencies and mediation. We also expect to be part of the whirlwind of activity surrounding the Affordable Care Act implementation.
Child support has always had a role in seeing that kids have health insurance, not yet clear as what we'll do about the differences between us and the Affordable Care Act in the legislative definitions of everything from affordability to responsibility. Regardless, the Affordable Care Act will create new opportunities I'm happy to take any questions. Questions, comments? Not having anything, thank you so much Ms. Toplift. Good job.
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Supervisor Farr,
wait one second. Mr. Chair I just want to thank Ms. Topliff and the whole department it's really really nice to have your report and first of all you don't need any general fund and you got a grant to backfill your cut before and you're doing phenomenal work so thank you so much Thank
you.
Supervisor Wolf?
Thank you, I'd like to just echo Supervisor Farr's comments and thank you and your staff for all the work that you do. Thank
you Ditto ditto ditto. All right thank you we will now go on to our next presentation First Five Children and Families Commission Mr. Romo director of this program And I guess as we start, I know we have one new member of our board here but it would be good to outline in kicking off this presentation the unique configuration that Santa Barbara County has with First Five.
To remind us as a board the adopted framework that our county and previous Board of Supervisors have adopted Throughout the state of California, and I'm your liaison as you know. Myself and Supervisor Adam is the alternate to First Five. And throughout the state of California when First Fives were first developed as a result of Proposition 10, I believe right? Yes. The structure of First Fives vary according to county Whether they're independent as non-profits, they are part of county government. They're with the schools so they have different structures and in Santa Barbara County we have a unique structure where we have a commission comprised of certain amount of individuals from certain sectors outlining our ordinance.
And as such, that commission has had full and autonomous decision making over all financial programmatic decisions. So almost to the point where this is perfunctory in reporting to the Board of Supervisors. And I say that just so that we have perspective as to the role that the board has played in the past and continues to play because there is a commission that makes all those decisions and provides that oversight.
Mr. Romo, having said that unless I said something wrong, CEO Waller and County Council, I'll turn it over to Mr. Romo.
Thank you Chair Carbajal, members of the board with that Introduction and a brief exploration I'm. Explanation I am pleased to be here today to bring.
Mr. Romo this is your first budget.
Oh yeah
absolutely. We will be asking you a lot of extra questions just to
make you
feel welcome.
Mr Chair members of the board, I am looking forward to those questions and a lively discussion if that's what you're looking for today. So I'm very pleased to present on our budget and our path going forward at First 5. As I think all of you know, and Chair Carbajal focused on this a bit, First 5 was established in 1998 when California voters passed Proposition 10 which imposed a sales tax on tobacco products and designated those revenues for programs and services that support zero-to-five year olds And their families by law, 80% of those revenues must be spent by independent public commissions that operate in each of California's 58 counties.
As is the case in Santa Barbara County as Chair Carbajal mentioned most first five commissions operate in partnership with and under the county government's umbrella. Though some commissions are independent nonprofits. Again, tobacco taxes are the main source of revenue for First Five and each county's share is calculated on our annual birth rate. Our tobacco tax allocation for fiscal year 13-14 is expected to be a little more than $3.9 million.
Additionally, First 5 Santa Barbara County has a long history of success in securing grants from local and state sources and in the past couple years federally as well. At this time we've confirmed grant another income of roughly $400,000 though we do expect that amount to rise as we are rather conservative for budget purposes in calculating what we expect to receive.
Finally, since 2010 First 5 Santa Barbara County has accessed its strategic reserve deliberately as a way to maintain level funding in our community which has been necessary due to the decline in the number of smokers in the state. Which is a good thing but we do see the economic impact of that and we estimate using reserve funds in the amount of roughly $700,000 in 13-14 First 5 receives no direct general fund allocation. However, First 5 does contribute $200,000 to the Children's Health Initiative of Santa Barbara County to provide insurance for 0-5 year olds.
These funds match the county's $1 million contribution to cover 6-18 year olds and First 5 provides contract monitoring support and reporting for this partnership not just for our $200,000 that we're pitching in but also for the county's 1 million And because our staff are designated only for serving zero to five year olds, we need a small amount of payment to compensate our staff time so that we're in compliance with state law on that and the activities that we're undertaking to support the funds outside of the zero to five realm of CHSB, the Children's Health Initiative.
And finally, our budget supports 15 full-time equivalents which is down. I'm sorry 14 full time equivalence which is down from 16 in 07-08 and I apologize Mr. Chair members of the board for not introducing Wendy Sims Moten who is our business manager at First Five and is assisting today and it's really the backbone of our organization In our accomplishments section in the administration and support, First 5's key role is to preserve the voters' intent and public trust by administering tax dollars with maximum efficiency and benefit in the community.
We do that by maintaining a robust and very public grant making process, we maintain a detailed process of contract monitoring and we measure and report our results with third party evaluation from UCSB. In 12-13 we've administered 35 grants or contracts totaling $4.3 million. While we do not have our fiscal year 12-13 numbers in yet, in terms of program outcomes as the year is still not over. Our 11-12 numbers are likely to be very consistent with what we've achieved this year.
With what we will achieve next year I'm sorry. As we're in the third year of a three year grant cycle. Some of the highlights, I'd really like to highlight our work with the Department of Social Services and Child Welfare Services in implementing the differential response program front porch program which among families served has reduced the rate of recidivism for repeat reports of child abuse from 30% in 08-09 to 4.7% in 11-12.
More than 5,000 children attend higher quality preschools and child care as a result of our efforts to improve the quality and effectiveness of those programs and providers. I mentioned our partner with the county in Chisby and our $200,000 contribution typically covers about 100 children per year in that partnership. We fund more than 900 home visits to new mothers just days after being released from the hospital and on an ongoing basis for at risk families to support mom and baby in their health and development.
Through a network of family resource centers throughout the county, we serve roughly 470 families with ongoing case management. And we also support significantly higher numbers of individuals and families with one time points of service and referral. And through our Thrive Communities, where First 5 funds community collaboratives in Carpinteria, Guadalupe, Santa Maria and Isla Vista with a place-based and unified approach across systems.
We've seen significant success and a more than 16% increase in the number of children who are ready for kindergarten. Looking more to our fiscal side of things, we expect no service level reductions in fiscal year 13-14. However, our longer term fiscal situation is more challenging. We're currently engaged in a strategic planning process to help the commission make difficult decisions in fiscal year 14-15 and beyond. I mentioned that First Five made a deliberate decision in 2010 to use reserve funds to maintain support in the community despite a decline in revenue as fewer people smoke.
This is not a sustainable model. Mr. Romo,
if I could add to that? And I think you used the word deliberate and I believe the commission it's my understanding from my experience that they purposely when the reserve was established at four to five million was more than what was needed for a reserve So the commission deliberately wanted to spend that down on service as the state requires and all other communities have done. So we're right sizing that reserve on the commission through a more appropriate level, but nonetheless, a strategy needs to be put in place.
To create that sustainability curve so I'm just adding to what you said because somebody not understanding. That strategic deliberate approach might say well why are they using all that reserve? Well it was meant to be drawn down. Please proceed.
Thank you, Chair Carball. This is not a sustainable model going forward, the accessing of our reserves to the degree that we have in the past and in 13-14 as our reserve funds have been depleted and the commission maintains a policy of holding at least one year's core operating expenses in reserve in case Prop 10 is repealed. This is important so as to ensure that First 5 has a year to effectively shut down without leaving the county with liabilities going forward.
Our strategic planning process will help us decide how to cut roughly $600,000 from our budget beginning in 14-15. This is designed to be a very public and inclusive process So the entire community can share their voice as the commission makes very difficult decisions about the direction of First 5 in the future. We're also looking for alternative models and strategies that will help maintain our core capacity as an organization.
Our primary objective though is to explore how we, as a community might maintain our impact and effectively meet Community needs despite the cuts through partnerships innovation and increased efficiencies in the system more generally. And finally we at first five greatly appreciate our strong partnership with the county as our fiscal and organizational umbrella and a host This partnership has created powerful synergies for both First Five and the county, and I see as one of my priorities going forward in this new role to be strengthening those bonds for the benefit of each of us and the communities that we serve together. That ends my presentation today, and I'm happy to take any questions you might have.
Thank you Mr. Romo. Questions? Comments? Supervisor Lavinino?
Thank you Mr. Chair and I had a chance to meet with Mr. Romo before this presentation and I just want to say, you know, I really applaud... You jumped into this right when the revenue is starting to dry up so good for you but I really applaud the way you're really looking at this as a, really getting your hands around a long-term strategy. I understand it's not sustainable, the budget you have right now and I know that you're not taking the easy way out of it and I really applaud you.
Glad you're there and look forward to some of the things that you're trying to implement in the future. I really think we've got first five in the right hands, and best of luck to you.
Further questions? Comments? Congratulations! Welcome on board Mr. Romo. Thank you. We'll be hard on you next year. Mr. Lavanino said it, if you come looking for general fund then we'll be hard on you next year or so. We will now proceed to public health. Dr. Wada?
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Chair Carbajal, members of the Board of Supervisors. With me are Michelle Mickiewicz, Deputy Director over Community Health with her last budget hearing and Suzanne Jacobson our Department Chief Financial Officer.
Dr. Wada for the public watching they're probably saying wasn't he up earlier for the alcohol drug and mental health? Well for the public that's watching or doesn't know, Dr. Watt is fulfilling an interim role as director of ADMHS as well as his existing role which is director of our Public Health Department so he has a big responsibility and we appreciate your good work
Thank you. I'm pleased to present to you today the fiscal year 13-14 proposed budget for the Public Health Department now. Much like the other health and human services departments, the upcoming year for public health has opportunities but many unknowns and potential risks particularly around the implementation and impacts of the Affordable Care Act. The mission of the Public Health Department is to improve the health of our communities by preventing disease, promoting wellness and ensuring access to needed healthcare.
Our proposed operating budget is just under $80 million with a capital budget of 23,000 and a general fund contribution of just over 8 million. This proposed budget supports 486.4 FTE's at decrease of 13 FTEs. This net number actually represents some programs that are decreasing in positions while others are increasing. All of the changes are outlined in detail in the budget book. The largest change to highlight at this time, are the 15 FTE increase due to the Hazmat program moving to public health from fire.
The largest decreases are the result of phasing out the medically indigent adult program due to implementation of the Affordable Care Act. Additional efficiencies from our new electronic health record system and a consolidation of clinic sites in Santa Maria Moving on to accomplishments for fiscal year 12-13, this includes preparing for the Affordable Care Act. We have assessed implications and opportunities to ensure the county can respond quickly and appropriately to the Affordable Care Act to better meet the needs of our patients and community. To further our efforts, the Public Health Department was awarded a $106,000 Blue Shield grant to support our Affordable Care Act preparations.
We are also participating in a federally funded patient-centered medical home project at two of our county healthcare centers to improve patient outcomes. The PCMH model is designed to promote comprehensive team based care, is patient centered and improves access to services, coordination of care, communication, quality and safety. Our Lompoc Animal Shelter was renovated to create a more customer-friendly and usable space for the benefit of clients, animals, volunteers and staff. And I should add that this was all done without the use of general fund dollars.
We are implementing a public health department worksite wellness program with support from the Orfalea Foundation grant in order to improve nutrition and physical activity within our public health department staff. This pilot program is being coordinated with the county's HR Department and their efforts to improve worksite wellness. Our electronic health record system was implemented at all of our sites last year, and we are now moving on to phase two which will include such additional features as a patient portal for patients to access their own records and test results remotely through the internet.
We have also qualified for federal incentives to help offset a portion of these electronic health record costs. And lastly, we participated in a statewide earthquake exercise to test our disaster plans for public health, emergency medical services and partner healthcare agencies. Given our recent actual earthquake and tragic mass casualty events across the country, we certainly need to ensure that we are all prepared for a natural or man-made disaster.
Unlike other departments presenting service-level impacts, our actions are considered as efficiencies as these are the result of appropriate business decisions and need no restoration of funding. In our Utilization Review and Medical Social Services program we will be reducing three FTEs as these activities will largely be unnecessary with the implementation of the Affordable Care Act.
We are also proposing slight reductions in our Santa Maria and Santa Barbara health care centers. Patient visits and clinic revenue have decreased over the last several years, and these reductions are necessary in order to better match staffing with demand. Actual service levels will not be impacted. In Health Information Management, We propose a reduction of five FTEs due to efficiencies gained by automating many functions through our electronic health record system.
And lastly, the consolidation of our Santa Maria Women's Center back to our primary healthcare center at Bitteravia will create significant efficiencies and cost savings again with no impact to service levels. As we look to the future in the upcoming year and beyond, the greatest unknown for public health is a full impact of the Affordable Care Act. While the Affordable Care Act provides needed insurance coverage to many currently uninsured individuals in our healthcare system, there are significant risks to the county that have not yet been resolved.
Of great concern is the state's proposal to pull back a large portion of 1991 realignment that is currently allocated to the Public Health Department to support indigent care and general public health services. If this reduction in state funding is greater than what the county projects to gain in new Medi-Cal revenue, this state action would severely compromise the department given that there are still projected to be significant numbers of residually uninsured and critical public health needs. We continue to work with the CEO, Board of Supervisors, Legislative Committee and CSAC on this unresolved yet critical issue.
The Affordable Care Act will also impact us on the health services delivery side, and we will need to adjust clinic service levels accordingly. Staff will be presenting a detailed report on our county's activities and projected impacts of the Affordable Care Act at the June 25th Board of Supervisors meeting. Aside from the Affordable Care Act, the Public Health Department continues to work to ensure our own fiscal stability by fully exploring revenue- Correct. Dr.
Wada before
you
proceed I don't think we need to get into it now because I think you set the stage for our report from staff and our CEO in the very near future but maybe just very briefly apprise the board that The state is in the thick of it right now, finalizing how they are going to finalize their budget. And in doing so, how they are approaching this realignment takeaway from counties and to my knowledge it affects the approach we're taking would have a significant impact On 12 counties, of which we are one.
And all 12 counties, our legislative staff as you said, our senator, our assembly member, everybody's on the case right now to try to impact the direction that they've telegraphed they seem to be going which is To adopt that framework which would have a significant impact on county government in the millions of dollars. And what it is, is that these realignment funds they seem to be wanting to take from county governments, the 12 counties that I've outlined because of the resources that are supposed to come from the Affordable Care Act instead of allowing us Even if they take them from us to phase us in for those three years that it'll take to implement the Affordable Care Act. So, the state is seen as a redundant investment in county government and not taking into consideration the transition that it's going to take to lessen the impact on county governments.
Did I get that right?
Chair Carbajal, that is correct. The state is proposing a number of different formulas to calculate the amount they would pull back. This is still under negotiation so it's not finalized yet but the formula impacts counties differently depending on how your local health system is structured. And we happen to be, as you mentioned, one of the counties that would be hit with significant reductions in our realignment funding.
Thank you. Supervisor Adam? And just so I'm clear on something, I am, I believe, informed and believe that that funding is for three years at which time it ends. Is that correct? The ACA funding from the federal government, whether we get it or the state gets it, wherever it comes from. I mean wherever it goes to, state or us. It's a three year period of time that that funding exists and then ends.
Chair Carbajal, Supervisor Adam. The Affordable Care Act it's fully funded by the federal government 100% for the first three years and then it phases down to 90%. So it's not eliminated, it just scales down from 100% fully funded to 90% fully funded by year 2020.
Okay so somebody is sucking up the extra ten percent in any event
Chair Garabald, Supervisor Adam. Yes that 10% would need to be made up by state or local funds.
Okay, thank you. But this is not talking so much about that as the entire amount that we currently get from realignment that they want to completely take away to allow us for that safe transition, soft transition. They kind of want to give us tough love. So it's not really the Affordable Care Act issue as it is our state government how they want to implement the Affordable Care Act.
Please proceed Mr. Wada.
Great, thank you. I
hope that was helpful. I don't know if I confused you more but- Supervisor said I made him more hungry.
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Please proceed. To continue looking toward the future, there's a new national system of public health department accreditation that creates benchmark standards which all public health departments should meet. Counties across the state are all looking at these accreditation standards and working to prepare ourselves over the next few years to meet the accreditation requirements.
And in conclusion, while there are certainly challenges and many unknowns facing public health. We maintain focus on our mission of improving the health of our communities by preventing disease, promoting wellness and ensuring access to needed healthcare. Now this ends our presentation and I'd be happy to answer any questions.
Comments? Questions? Supervisor Two at the same time, Lavinino and Supervisor Farr.
Supervisor Farr? Thank you Mr. Chair. Well thank you for the presentation and again kudos to you and your staff, public health staff as well as ADMHS staff for you wearing the two hats for both departments for so many months now and on into the future for still a number of months after that. I know that not only has that increased your workload an unknown amount to me, but I know a lot. But also to all the staffs involved so thank you for that.
Public health department is always so well run and we really, really appreciate it. I do want to make a comment, though, on what Supervisor Carbajal was talking about. And this is not the only issue but it's the single most important issue right now and potentially the most costly to the county. You know, if we ever had I needed an example of how what happens, not just in Washington but in Sacramento affects us directly. It's happening right now with this discussion about the Affordable Care Act and what the governor wanted to do and then the negotiations. And I was in Sacramento a couple weeks ago for the CSAC legislative conference when they started to discuss this And of course, I was under the assumption that CSAC was negotiating fairly for everybody.
I didn't really realize till now that there were a dozen counties that for whatever reason were not going to be treated as equitably as the rest. So I just want to let everybody know and starting with my colleagues here That our lobbyists in Sacramento, Monica Miller in particular is working really, really hard on this issue representing us. But also I think that I was really surprised how many other counties at the legislative conference didn't just have their CSAC representative but they had two or even three of their supervisors there participating on these policy groups, in the committees and really giving a lot of input. So the annual conference is in November, the week before Thanksgiving. It's in San Jose. I would really, really encourage as many supervisors that can to go because I think that all of us really need to be there.
I alone can't represent the county as well as all of us can on these issues and Whatever happens with this particular issue, there's going to be others coming along. I heard some things that were rather disturbing about the AB 109 money and the funding and how that funding formula may change. So we really need all of us to be at the table for this. Thank you Mr. Chair.
Thank You Supervisor Farr. Not having further questions? Supervisor Lavinino? Okay thank you very much We will now move on to our last presentation before our lunch break, and that'll be Social Services. And we have our new social services department head Dan Nielsen who also is going through his first budget deliberations with our board. Maybe you could follow in Mr. Ben's footsteps and not get so many questions from us, we'll see.
Good morning Chair, thank you. Daniel Nielsen, Director of the Department of Social Services, Chair Carbajal and Honorable Supervisors I'm here today to present our fiscal year 2013-2014 budget with me today is Terry Kinsellas my Deputy Director of Administrative Services The Department of Social Services requested budget for fiscal year 2013-2014 is approximately $146 million with an additional $270,000 in capital expense for technology in the form of disk expansion and servers.
This requested budget will increase by 5.8 million dollars as a result of your board's decision on June 4th increasing our staffing level by 77 positions. As a reminder, the revenue for this staff expansion is 100% federal state and realignment funds. Our requested general fund contribution is $3 million which is 2% of our total budget. Normally the general fund contribution for our department is closer to 6% of our total budget However, we are able to use fund balance in the requested budget to reduce the general fund contribution needed.
Dan, again just two percent out of $146 million comes from the general fund?
Yes sir.
Three million out of 146 million?
Yes
sir. It's a very striking number I just wanted to repeat that just to make sure everybody heard it. Please proceed.
We do anticipate that the request for general fund monies in future budget years will return to the historical levels. We are currently staffed with 718.9 full-time equivalents, with the addition of the 77 positions that you approved last week we will have 795.9 full time equivalents as a point of reference in fiscal year 2007 2008 we had 681.7 FTEs The increase in FTEs is due to caseload growth and new mandates.
The department had several significant accomplishments in fiscal year 2012-2013 as we worked to fulfill our mission of helping our community to be safe, supported and self sufficient. We provided supportive services to over 40 non minor dependents in accordance with the goals of AB 12 which extended the age our foster youth can remain in care At the current time we are providing services to youth ages 18, 19 and 20. And in January of 2014 the age limit for participation will rise to 21.
We finalized adoptions for over 100 children getting them out of the foster care system And into permanent and loving homes supervisor. Thank you,
Mr Nielsen. Can you I know you haven't been here very long but can you tell me why we're getting down because we were getting 9 million was it? Before and now we're gonna get 6 million next year. But we got 3 million this year?
You know why that is? I am sorry, Supervisor, I'm not understanding your question. Your general fund contribution. Oh, general fund contribution. Chair Carbajal and Supervisor Adam are the general fund share of our budget for the coming budget year is at that level because of use of fund balance Okay. Yes. Mr. Alvarez?
Yes, if I could clarify. So in the 13-14 budget year, the beginning... The original general fund allocation was about $9 million. The department as part of their budget actions recently coming to the board identified about $8 million, $7.8 million of unanticipated revenue. 3.6 million of that is an increase to ongoing realignment dollars And so that was reducing the general fund, plus there was another one time amount of 3.6. So those are why it's so low in 13-14 then it's planned to go up by 3. 6 as that one time element is no longer available.
Right okay thank you.
Thank you.
Somebody else had their
line
on or? No.
Okay please proceed. We have been successfully managing the transition of thousands of children from healthy families into Medi-Cal. As the transition of these children into Medi-Cal occurs at the time of their annual renewals The entire transition will be complete in February of 2014. In fiscal year 2011-2012, the state discontinued funding for the CalLEARN program which serves pregnant and parenting teens.
We continued those services in our own Welfare to Work for Teens program and then successfully transitioned back to the CalLEARN program in the current fiscal year when state funding was restored. We are serving an average of 70 youth each month We implemented MyBenefits CalWin, which allows clients to apply online for food stamps, Medi-Cal, CalWORKs and general relief.
While anyone that is going to receive cash assistance must come into the office in person to complete the process, the ability to apply online saves time for clients and staff. At the present time about 500 clients per month or 12% of our applicant population are taking advantage of this application option. With offices in Santa Maria, Lompoc and Santa Barbara it is important that we take advantage of technology to reduce travel time and the associated costs.
We have expanded the department's desktop video conferencing and utilize it as much as practical in conducting our day-to-day business. Further, we implemented an enhanced method of training that allows instructors and students to engage with each other from different geographic locations increasing the frequency with which training can occur and decreasing costs related to travel.
We are not anticipating any negative service level impacts at this time. On April 16, 2013 your board approved a budget adjustment accepting additional revenues and those revenues enabled the department to fill eight previously unfunded positions. These revenues were made up entirely of realignment, Department of Social Services special revenue funds and state and federal funds.
A budget adjustment request has been submitted and must be approved in order for us to continue to operate at our current level of service. Your board's action on June 4th approving an additional 77 positions funded solely by federal, state and realignment funds will greatly enhance our stability moving forward. And once again I want to thank you for your support of our work.
In January 2014 the Affordable Care Act will provide increased access to insurance coverage for many residents of our county through an expansion of Medi-Cal and the addition of federally subsidized insurance products made available through our state's insurance exchange known as Covered California. The department's eligibility staff will have a significant role to play not only in assisting applicants who will now qualify for Medi-Cal, but also in assisting county residents who come to us for help in navigating the Covered California Insurance Exchange and in selecting an insurance product from the range of options made available through the exchange.
We'll be one of the gateways for our county residents seeking in person assistance in selecting an insurance product. While many questions remain unanswered, the pre-enrollment period will begin on October 1st of this year and we are working hard to be prepared. Our role in relation to Covered California has challenges to include answering calls within 30 seconds when an employee of Covered California connects us with a potential MediCal client and having a call abandonment rate of 3% or less.
However, we also have opportunities in dealing with this newly covered part of the population In that we can assess the individual or family for their additional needs beyond health insurance coverage and link them with other available programs such as CalFresh. Once the state has a final budget, and we know specifically how much money will be given to counties to address our staffing needs in relationship to this new mandate We will be returning to your board to address those needs within the scope of those revenues. Supervisor Hanna?
Can you tell me what the call abandonment rate is? That's the rate at which people give up waiting when they're on hold and hang up. When I presented the issue to the board last week, I reported that we were currently having a call abandonment rate of about 17%, which we of course are working on decreasing But the expectations from Covered California are very stringent in that regard. Okay,
thank you. I don't even know such a thing existed but it's interesting that we could gauge and monitor. Maybe we ought to apply that throughout the county?
Okay, please proceed. That concludes my presentation and I'm open for any questions. Great, thank you. Questions? Supervisor Wolff?
Thank you Mr. Chair, thank you for your presentation and while you're here along with public health and everyone who just presented I just in the big picture I want to thank all of you for what you're doing and this Affordable Care Act is going to be huge and just specifically I want to thank Public Health for putting on that forum in Goleta and I know that social services helped with a lot of the information but It's really important that we get, we start getting that information out to the community especially given that start date of October. So it is coming up very soon and I just want to say that I look forward to our June 25th presentation. And is that going to be multi-departmental or is it? Okay very good. Alright thank you, thank you very much.
Supervisor Wolf, I heard great things about that forum you hosted with our staff about the Affordable Care Act. I think it was a lot of good information that was disseminated. Further questions? Supervisor Farr.
Thank you Mr. Chair, not a question but just a comment and I just wanted to thank you for not only the presentation but you've only been a part of our county family here for a few weeks it's clear you've hit the ground running and it was a great presentation so thank you
Thank you, Mr. Nielsen. See how painless it was? Yes. Thank you, Chair Carbajal and supervisors. Thank you. We will now go to public comment. We have two public speakers that are sitting up front ready to go. Mr. Allen.
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We have speaker slips from Joe Armendariz. We'll start with him, go to Andy Caldwell. And we just received a slip from Bruce Corsaw who will be our final speaker.
Thank you. Andy's jealous I get to go first. I'm a hard act to follow. I'm Joe Armendariz, Executive Director of Santa Barbara County Taxpayers Association. You know, a quick observation with respect to the general fund contribution to social services and public health. And indeed even with the first five families commission is there's not a close enough proximity to the source of the funds in the program delivery. Meaning that if these programs were more dependent on property taxes than I think there might be An inevitable stress given in terms of your desire to increase your property tax pie.
Obviously our public safety budgets are disproportionately dependent on property taxes and that should be enough, frankly. But were it also the case that our social service, Social safety net were also dependent on a strong growing local economy that I think that would be a good thing. I want to speak specifically right now to the first five and was nice to see my friend Ben Romo have It was made in voyage here before the Board of Supervisors. And I know Salud Carbajal has been very supportive of that. I think it would be really useful if this board of supervisors were to think down the road, in terms of what happens to that particular program as those revenues diminish? Because obviously, that's the objective. You want those revenues to diminish because you don't want people to smoke, particularly children.
So if the objective is for people not to smoke then by definition those revenues are going to decrease And the question then becomes, if these are valuable programs and services which I believe they are. How are we going to fund them? And so I would encourage you to think outside the box in that regard. I would encourage you to partner strategically with the San Ynez Band of Chumash Indians, who I know are very interested in empowering our youth and using their economic resources to support these type of programs. I would encourage you to partner with our local oil industry which has a vested interest in making sure that our children are given the start they need and investing in their future and particularly with respect to education So I think these are all good things.
I'll just close by, and I'm sure Andy's probably going to talk about this in a big way, and that is to encourage this board to keep a very close eye on the Public Health Department's new role in hazardous materials. As I'm sure all of you know, the history of the Public Health Department running that program has not been good. I've sat in many, many meetings with members of public health including Dr. Wada and I personally feel pretty confident that they're going to do this program well and that they're going to be sensitive to the needs of business but I would encourage you as five leaders and as the board of directors of the county to also make sure that you hold them accountable on that particular program. Thank you.
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Chairman Carbajal, members of the board. I'm Andy Caldwell representing COLAB. I think it's shocking if you would take a step back and consider that every three years we spend $1 billion on these departments. One billion more than one billion every three years. Now unemployment supposedly down to 7%. The economy supposedly in recovery. Supposedly we have experts in alcohol, drug, mental health, social services and public health.
Why doesn't the bill ever go down? Our population is plateaued and then some communities it's even shrinking but we're still spending nearly $350 million a year on the same clientele year after year after year Who is ever going to take a step back and ask if what we're doing is working? Because even though it may not be general fund money, it's still tax dollars.
Is it working $1 billion every three years on these departments? One of the things I was glad to see as the public health department talked about getting cash collections for appointments, I would like to see them Assess a penalty for broken appointments. What is the broken appointment rate today? At one point in some clinics, one out of four people didn't show up for their appointments. What about the spay neuter ordinance?
Has that had an impact on the number of animals and cats going to clinics? We'd like to know. There's a big assumption in alcohol drug and mental health that they've covered their liabilities There's a indicator and social services that they're cutting aid reduction in half. And that there are some savings, but we'd like to see more details on things like that.
We are chagrined that in spite of the fact that there are inklings that the state may rip you off of some of these monies and make you Help pay for the insurance and then help pay for the care while they take all your money. We think you should have some kind of an emergency reserve set aside for Obamacare. Including the cost of insurance for county employees. This is why we were chagrined to see that the staff predicted that after this next year or so, insurance rates are only going to go up 5% a year. That's never happened and we certainly don't believe it's going to happen with Obamacare.
Finally under child support, we thought there was an interesting idea they referred to as a 360 degree review process. Where peers and subordinates are allowed to rate their fellow employees, we think that is extremely worthwhile. But again a billion dollars every three years. Thank you Mr. Caldwell. Thank you.
Bruce Corso?
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You're between us. Mr. Chair members of the board these presentations was Very interesting for us at Local 620. It kind of codifies that 60% of the people that we represent are not funded by your general fund. We'd like to thank, Local 620 would like to thank Dr. Wada for combining two departments working diligently to take care of both. We've had positive reports from ADMHS and from our public health personnel over his leadership.
We are concerned with the move to contracting our juvenile justice mental health. For many years, our mental health professionals have taken care of that. I do not believe that they have substantiated the savings that they will have. This is similar to when we contracted out the lowest paid public health personnel which was janitors. All that did was increase cost and increased workload for remaining personnel.
Again, I will remind people that contracting out you're not only paying for the frontline service provider. You're also who is typically less qualified and Of course, they're not really loyal to the county. They are loyal to their employer or themselves. But it also adds additional costs for additional management finance people and HR departments when you already have your own. I believe all you're doing is adding cost to it and not realizing any benefit from it as far Child support, social services, ADMHS.
I will remind the board that their caseloads have been increasing drastically while staffing is still being reduced. I spoke to Ms. Toplift after her presentation to you and she informed me that Our members, her staff saved a lot of positions by making concessions. She also I also asked her if she's proposing more concessions this year in your budget. She told me similar to several other department heads they are not even though that's not what we're being told by your administration there still expecting concessions to pay for what I'm not 100% sure again These people, several people we represent in several of these departments have been working for several years making concessions less pay and doing a great job. They also need support and some help.
Staffing levels as I presented on the first day Is at all time low with this county. We hope that through this budget cycle, you can assist us in getting the job done of serving the public.
Thank you. Thank you Mr. Corsa. Having no more public speakers we will recess for lunch break and we will be back at 45 minutes or a whole hour? 130 or 145? One thirty, how many say one thirty? Yes. My input on that is we have our
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I'd like to reconvene our board meeting. Mr. Clerk, if you could go over the departments that are going to make their presentations now?
Chairman Carball and members of the Board, our next group of departments includes the Auditor-Controller, the Clerk-Recorder-Assessor, General Services, and the Treasurer-Tax Collector-Public Administrator.
Thank you very much. Mr. Geis, I was thrown off by Mr. Holland over here and I'm like well wait a minute who's going to go next? Mr. Geis. Chairman Carbaugh,
all members of the board, I'm Bob Geis County Auditor-Controller been there for my 23rd year. I'd like to start my presentation to talk about some nuances of the auditor's office, maybe for the benefit of Supervisor Adam and a refresher course. I first like to talk about why are we in that bullpen over there? It's the CEO submitting the budget most of the policy discussions and it's really your budget.
But if you kind of go back in history, I'd introduce Betsy Schaefer over there first and then Theo Filotti. We kind of split up the room so we could all help answer questions. If you go back in the old days, you know, the auditors have been around since they turned dirt at the courthouse. Mr. Adams...
I was just wondering if you were trying to surround us?
Yeah that's it! And early on the statutes actually had the auditor controller preparing the budget. It lasted like that for years and years until kind of county government got a little bit modern, and it hired a CAO and a CEO. And in there, in the County Budget Act they changed the statute to say well the auditor or the county executive could do this function. And we got a resolution and said wherever it says auditor or county executive, we elect the county executive to do those sections and therefore they do most of the budgets. But in the statutes there's a few remaining things and duties for the auditor controller.
The first is we have to attend the budget hearings. It's probably the only statute that says I have to come to something and it can be my deputies too so if I'm off fishing one of these years again, my deputies will do a good job. But the other thing we have to do is we actually have to produce the final budget in the format determined by the state controller, which is a little bit different than our format. But we also produced the final budget and we're active in producing the proposed budget.
The other rule, and it might come up tomorrow is that if you submit revenue estimates to the county, the auditor controller should be reviewing those estimates and providing a written report to the board if we differ on what those revenue estimates are. So what you don't want to happen in the budget is you have a bunch of overinflated revenue sources to balance with. And I've never had wrote a report like that my whole history Because we always, the CEO, the departments and the county auditor come to an agreement on revenue estimates. The last thing we have to do statutorily is we're required to be in the hearings to record the final budget changes. And that's what's gonna happen tomorrow. The CEO really leads that effort but I just want to give you guys a pause here.
That when you produce the final budget adjustment it has two sides. You're going to authorize new appropriations, but it needs to have an identified financing source. And sometimes that can get a little bit hazy and we have to go study the tapes to say what did they really mean? So as much as you can help us tomorrow to really be clear on what that funding source is and what that appropriation is, we'd appreciate that because that helps us in the future of producing the budget.
The last thing is once we get that budget, it's our requirement to load it up to the financial system. And so that's just a nuance why we're in the bullpen. So then I want to start off with and address my good friends back here and say for the financial departments which are out here let me give you really good performance measure. It's not a performance measure Given by us internally, it's a performance measure by S&P who is the rating service for the county.
So they just recently rated us at SP plus one on our short term rating which is the highest rating to borrow short-term debt for our TRAN and they gave us a really nice written report along with that. Today or tomorrow they're issuing another report on our long term rating and they are giving us a double A plus Which isn't the highest rating they could give you, because you could get the AAA. But there's no California county or government entity in the state of California that I know of that has a AAA rating. So we are up there at the top. They've also giving us a good policy report on that so when you look at the financial operations of the county those rating agencies are giving us, you know, the top end reports and that is just a good...
Could you say that again Mr. Geisler?
So all right, then I'll go to one more nuances. I want to tell you about two nuances about the auditor which leads into my presentation. One in its simplest form what does the county auditor do? Well in it's simplest form we manage the county's checkbook And in its simplest form, there's 199 county funds that are part of that checkbook. There are 257 school funds that are part of that checkbook. There's 93 state and city funds that are part of that checkbook. There's 37 tax funds that are a part of the checkbook and there's 90 other agency funds like special districts that are part of the checkbook so our role goes beyond What we typically are doing in this budget room this morning and that's just kind of important that for the most part, the county government doesn't get reimbursed or the county our typical county doesn't get reimbursed for those services that were providing to most of those entities.
And especially in the property tax area, where we do property tax administration and more than half goes to all the other entities. It's a very complex process. We are excluded from charging schools who get 50% of the funds. We tried that a long time ago, and let me tell you these boardrooms filled up with a lot of school advocates say don't do property tax administration fees against the schools. And they won that battle. And so that's another kind of nuance to the auditor.
The last nuance is we do something a little bit different in Santa Barbara County than other counties may not do. In the 90s, we decentralized our application development out of IT and put it out into the departments. And I think that was a really wise move for the auditor controller's office. Today, we manage 65 different applications. And those 65 applications are like sub-applications to the five main applications. One is our financial accounting and system, which is called FIN. And that has about 20 applications that comprise that product. FIN reporting has another 11 applications Payroll has nine different applications. Property tax has 27 different applications, and our specialty accounting has two. We have seven admin applications, and we run 22 pieces of hardware to support those applications.
And I just want to point that out because later in my presentations, that's where we're asking for some restorations to help maintain those systems. You know, the other thing that defines the county auditor's job is our jobs just littered throughout the government code and the R&T code telling us did that really tells us what to do and how to do it. From there, I guess we can now... There's my budget. $7.6 million, 10,000 in capital. We really have mostly general fund contribution. We've moved our cost allocation revenue up into 991 so it looks like we have a pretty big general fund contribution. We do collect a lot of our money back from federal and state programs and are giving it back to 991. Our budgeted positions are now at 46.2 FTEs, and we'll talk about the decline in a little bit.
So here's some accomplishments of the auditor. We've worked jointly with the Treasurer Tax Collector towards implementation of a new vendor purchase property tax system scheduled to go live in early 13-14. Now back at the last hearing you know we did a presentation a few weeks ago on that I said I'm 75% confident that will hit that target OK I'll raise it to 80 percent.
And as we get closer you know our measure of success is going to be if the treasurer tax collector can send out the bills and when he gets them back, he can post them that those people paid their bill. That's going to be our first measure is a success But by no means when we get to that stage will we be done with the property tax system. It'll take quite a period of time to finish that off, and both the treasurer and our office have mustered about 10 FTEs working full-time. Now they're getting to this stage it's nights, weekends, it's stress to get that system up live. We did our fifth data conversion just last Friday.
We'll have to do one more data conversion called six, and then when they're going to go live they're going to do seven so we're getting close. The second thing we did is we added the budget functionality to FinWeb as part of the Budget Clarity Project that provided the essential development tools to produce that new document. And I've been listening closely in the room, you know, to Andy to say, you don't have enough performance measures in here again.
And I heard Doreen say, well I kind of got used to liking another level of detail in the system. Let me tell you what we really did. We kind of like replaced the chassis of a car. We stuck the new engine in there which is finned And we put the same body on top of it. And what we really need to do is work on replacing the body now. We're definitely not done in terms of where we can go, but we got a new engine and we've got a new base and you know Tom and I have talked to the budget director. We want a five-year plan that's more robust. We want every single department, every single fund, every single unit to have a five year plan and to do that if we can capture that data in FinWeb, we can roll it up We can have tools to load it. That's one of our goals for next year.
We want a new 10-year capital budget. We could do that a lot better, and we need to bring a new tool on for that. Performance measures? We'd like to see them at the detail level. I like performance measures, and I like them at the detail. But to get to that detail, our vision was adopt a budget book at the level that's the legal level of control. And for that detail, we'd like to have A public version of fin or wet fin web reporting that you can get the program budget down to the somebody asked for a.
What do you call those things. A request for the budget programs to show the general fund contributions so we can show the budget at that level. And we can show it at the next level down, which is the FIN programs. So that if you wanted to get well what did we contribute to the libraries? We can point to that. If we want to know well what's the budget for County Service Area 3? We can point to that.
We might want to put some of that in the book, but we also could have a subsidiary system that is a public portal that we could all see it online and really do that level of detail. And then hopefully attach performance measures at that level. So that's kind of our vision and you can give me some feedback and say no, we'd rather have it in the book and Chandra some feedback, but that's kinda where we're going.
Today, you're doing budget revisions? Those aren't automated like we do them during the year. We'd like to have automated budget revisions so that when you're done at the hearings tomorrow, we're pushing the button and that thing's loading up the final budget and loading up the FIN. We have to spend some days reconciling those, reloading them, keying, and getting them onto the system. To do all this new programming for this book We used one FTE. We used a halftime assistant department director in my shop, Mike Struven and Juan Escudero who's a member of Betsy's staff and they basically did all the programming, all the formatting and were able to convert to that new budget. We got a few words in there and we'll fix those going forward. It's not a perfect document but it's the start A couple other things we did on the side, you know we performed the audit and the property tax administration services required by the RDA dissolution for the seven RDAs.
That's by far not over. I got served with a lawsuit yesterday on the city of Goleta just part of the big picture there don't take my money and that's kind of suspended until that lawsuit gets settled We, you know that generated quite a bit of money for the county and it was not just our effort but it was an effort of the CEO and the oversight boards to properly dissolve those. But the beneficiary is we got 4.2 million in ongoing revenue.
We got 5.9 million in one-time revenue. And in the future Think out to the future, maybe five or six years from now you're going to get another slug of like $5 million. And if we were doing that five year forecast and those long term plans That's something to strategically think about to say, hey if you get $5 million I could borrow you 50 and we can do 50 million worth of capital improvements. Or you might have to dedicate that to the sheriff's facility or we might be able to put 5 million in cash towards deferred maintenance even each and every year without doing more debt. And so we really should be looking out there and thinking strategically in our long-term plan We also completed the complex accounting and reporting for the dissolution of the county's Isla Vista RDA, and transferred the assets to the successor agency.
Tough task still to remain to get rid...to dissolve those assets. And then you know This is going to relate to one of my requests, as we perform reviews of cable franchise agreements which resulted in the payment to the county for uncollected prior year amounts and generated ongoing revenues. Kind of a complex thing we do. I actually did the same audit in 1984 and found similar things and we fixed it back then and it just needs more periodic review. And like Janet says you know kind of studying where do you put those franchises Maybe they end up back in the auditor's office and we put it in a different division and do that annual look.
So, the auditor has dropped its budgeted staffing over the last six years from 57.9 FTEs to 46.2. That is a 23% reduction. You know, the recession has done one good thing. My staff hasn't left. And you know, I got really good staff and they have picked up the pieces. My worry in the future is can we keep up when that staff starts to leave for other opportunities?
And that's really what we're starting to say is we think studying our organization, we really should get back to something like 52.2 FTEs which would be six more positions We submitted a bunch of expansion requests and the CEO is recommending funding for restoring two positions. I think if the board really wanted to reinvest in the auditor, we'd like six positions but you know when the economy recovers maybe we can slowly rebuild that back. So the first is a financial systems analyst to maintain and enhance the 65 system applications maintained in the Auditor Controllers Department. I mean we have a good core staff But you know, we need one here and we'd like another one in our next floor. We really could use two more I think for the long term management of those systems, the enhancements.
We've probably saved the county millions of dollars by not buying huge legacy systems. You know, Ventura County just issued a contract for their property tax system $21 million, 19 positions We in no way ask for those kinds of resources. Same thing with the financial applications at other counties, they don't have the kind of staff we have to write around or put in an efficient vendor system.
The last thing we'd like to have is a financial accounting analyst Help us perform annual reviews and audits of county departmental compliance efforts as required by county contracts, grants, franchises, real property transactions, regulations and laws related to the receipt and expenditure of county funds. We think we should dedicate somebody to do that all the time. I have one staff member approving all the hundreds of contracts that come through the county, but we don't have anybody dedicated to monitoring the compliance and we really don't have anybody dedicated Helping the departments where we're going to propose doing some new risk assessments on all the contracts. I think we need to staff that up and do that. The last thing there is if we add positions back to the auditor, eventually we collect 50% of that cost back through federal and state programs so it costs you a certain amount today but two years from now we'll start getting half of that back.
And then let me just tell you about A couple of the things that we really do well in the county. You know, we have a new auditor training and development program this year I lost a senior cost analyst to the parks I lost a senior analyst to the treasurer tax collector. I had one EDP programmer retire, and I had a senior financial office professional retire. To replace them we hired four We are going to put new people, accountant auditors into our new auditor training and development program. We grow people in that program over the years I've hired 67 people, 39 of them got their CPA license.
I can't read that statistic. 34 of them are still with the county, and a lot of the other ones left the county to go get better jobs with other government agencies in the county. And just to name a couple of these people as... You know, Melinda Green, the new assistant assessor. She's from the New Auditor Training Development Program. Kim Tesoro on Harry Shoppe. She's from the New Auditor Training and Development Program.
Outside of that program, you know we hired Damon Fletcher who started in the auditor's office the probation CFO. We hired Terry Kinsellas who is the social services CEO. We hired John Jayasingh for the CEO's office so one thing we really do is we hire good people and we train good people and they blossom up into the organization now we've lost some of those people too Don Kindig went down. He's running the Ventura Retirement System. We've lost people to the school districts, Conrad Tedeschi, Julie Namus, Janelle Williams and we lost Chris Tekoski to the Goleta Water District so you know what kind of a training ground for good people? So the last thing we do is just... One second Mr. Gines, Mr. Adam.
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Yes. So what you're saying is we need some more revenue?
We always need more revenue.
Oh okay thank you.
So so then that you know the department has been able to maintain fiscal systems at a basic level but there is a risk of not performing needed enhancements and not being able to respond to the fiscal needs of the county in a timely manner. Let me make an example as our time card system's 14 years old we should rewrite it. You know that the system that supports the budget adjustments called the bad database, budget adjustment database. That thing's too old. We need stuff to constantly maintain so we're asking for restoration of four additional positions as funding permits Supervisor Adam when we get more revenue hopefully you look to us and spend some on us because I think we're a good investment it would help avoid long-term risks of financial errors irregularities non-compliance lost revenues long term maintenance of systems We're looking for another accountant auditor for a new auditor training and development system.
What this would do is help us promptly rotate the auditors throughout the office, what we're doing is we're kind of stuck now That we don't have enough ability to rotate people because now they get stuck and they get stuck in a division. We train them, and the division chief goes you can't take that person! And so we have a much tougher time doing our rotation program. Another senior financial systems analyst would really help us We really didn't get anybody long-term to support the property tax system. We've never really had that resource and so I think we should have somebody long term that's constantly assigned to maintaining and enhancing our property tax systems We'd like another financial accounting analyst in our Advanced and Specialty Accounting Division.
You know, we try and help on a lot of special things like housing empower. And then another senior accountant for our Customer Support Division. This is where a lot of our work gets done, and we're using a lot of interns and extra help to fill in and do the regular work. And I think we just need to add a resource to that area. And with that, I'll take any questions or I'm done.
Questions? Comments? Supervisor Adam? Well so all kidding aside though where's the revenue going to come from?
The revenue will come from number one the economy... How
would that manifest itself here?
The economy is going to manifest itself in terms of increased property tax, increased sales tax, increased transient occupancy tax. We've got a great economic base and it will generate and pull us out of the recession. You're challenging me to say well can I solve those problems that are historic funding problems like the road fund? We have to do something more unique in the road fund other than think that the general fund can cover the deficits in the road fund. Because I'll take you back to 1978 before Prop 13, there wasn't a huge amount of general fund going into the road fund before the taxpayers said we're not gonna put a limit on property taxes. That money has always been going to the basic public services where it goes to today.
And, you know, can we pull ourselves out of the retirement dilemma? I believe yes. I've been here when that system's been 100% funded. I didn't like what the market did this week but, you know, the economy will recover us and it can recover us fairly quickly but you're talking about trying to solve the long-term deficits and we need strategies to do that
Well, you know I'm just it's probably the wrong forum because today is already a long day but I was going to say a little bit about my homeowners association. You know when they created that thing they didn't collect any money. You know like you're saying back in you know in the early days they just put the roads and everything was all good and nobody collected any money and now At my homeowners association and here with our infrastructure, things are starting to fall apart. And the homeowner's dues are having to go up and we're having to set aside money for the reserve that is now required by law. Unfortunately, we don't have that here.
You know, some day you have to pay. And you have to prioritize and we just may not be able to have all the things that we want and I don't believe that it's right that we have all these and this is where it's probably improper to do today but I'm going We've got a generational injustice thing going on here where we're gonna go out and borrow the money the kids can pay back so we can maintain the assets that weren't maintained by us and our predecessors.
And I just don't think that's right.
You could look at that in reverse too, Supervisor Adams said that past generation didn't pay their fair share. Because we
have some sense. So so now we're going to pass it on to the next generation.
I say we try and not do that and we work ourselves out of every single hole we have if you want a triple A rating from the state of California if we had no debt, we'd probably get one. I'm with you. We should work our way out of debt but you know it has to be strategic The general funds are
not
going to solve that.
We're far afield, I'm sorry.
Any further questions? Supervisor Farr.
Thank you Mr. Chair just one clarification so the financial systems analysts and the financial accounting analysts are the two positions that the CEO is recommending that we go ahead and fund okay and then the other four were the other
Yeah, we know that the money's not there for the other four. We just want to say we think that would be a better level of stopping for us. There are still risks in our department of things we could miss or not get to.
Okay thank you and then I just wanted to say that you're talking about the accomplishments I think that the work that you did on the cable franchise agreements, even though the dollar amount in the big picture was not that great. It still, I think, was huge not only to keep them accountable but to get back revenue and to have the ongoing revenue increased. And I know that your department does that kind of thing over and over again And clearly, you know the really big projects that you've had to work on for RDA have been enormous.
For all of the RDA, various RDAs throughout the county and then particularly for Isla Vista and I did want to thank you in your department for all the additional time that you have spent with me and my staff and other county departments, Public Works and all looking at the situation in Isla Vista and how we're going to move forward from there in a post-RDA world And last, I just wanted to thank you and all of our financial departments for having our county have such an incredible credit rating. You know the best in the state, nobody no other county in the state any better than that. And when we just got the message from Mr. Hagan as far as the TRAN and the selling of the TRAN and all that, I think that's a tremendous achievement and one that the general public doesn't necessarily hear about or maybe perhaps fully understand but we do and thank you all very much.
Welcome. Thanks. And RDA, just to make comments, that was kind of a fun project. It's intellectually stimulating it just is a piece of legislation that is pretty wild
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I'm sorry Mr. Chair, I do have one question. You know I had heard we'd all heard that the city of Goleta was suing the state over the RDA and the bonds and all that but you said that you got served? Is the county, you or the county being sued also by the city?
It would be the auditor controller of the county and the reason that they do that is, you know it's the Department of Finance, the state controller, the auditors involved in that because there are some takeaway provisions in the RDA law that says if they don't pay we could take their property tax. And it says if they don't pay, the state can take their sales tax. And so they're protecting themselves in the lawsuit to make sure that we don't do those takeaways and you know it's clear with working with the State Comptroller are the state is not going to do the takeaway and they're not going to ask us to do the takeaway if anybody does a takeaway until they settle. If they settle the lawsuit and the lawsuit says they need to pay us back and they don''t then we would start doing the takeaways.
That's one element of that But you just have to remember, we're the person in the middle doing all the collection of the taxes and then saying well what part goes to enforceable obligations and what part gets distributed to the taxing agencies. So we're in the middle at that process
Okay, thank you. I can see County Counsel Marshall getting a little nervous here so maybe we better stop this conversation. Thank
you. Mr. Chairman, no, I wasn't nervous. I had just spoken with the auditor. I think he's summarized it correctly. There is really no allegation of any wrongdoing by the county but in a red action typically you name anybody that has to perform a ministerial duty if when you're over Your overarching issue, which is as I read the pleadings is really a challenge to the state and there's not a challenge to the county. But as part of that process, the auditor is in the middle dispersing those monies. And to be cautious, the attorneys say well if we win, the auditor has to do this too. So it's really nothing that the county or the auditor has done incorrectly.
Thank you. Mr. Grice, I want to thank you for giving us real perspective from an accounting standpoint. That S&P is a very credible agency and if they give us a high rating it's not because they just pulled it out of the wind. Certainly we can always be more prudent. We could always be extra conservative And we could always do more to be in a better position, financial position. Even more sustainable but the fact of the matter is that we have a great rating.
That's what the world revolves around in terms Loans in this country, businesses rely on that. It's central to rating the fiduciary position of an organization and I think that's important. CEO Waller, I think as much as we could always be more prudent, I think we need to celebrate that because I think that's a real accomplishment. You have folks on every extreme. One extreme is that We could do no more in our prudence. And then you have the ones, the chicken littles on the other side that scream and yell that the sky is falling and being in between somewhere in a prudent position is important so I always like to make sure that the extremes are minimized so that middle thinking prevails at the end of the day. So I want to thank you in your...
And Chairman Carbaugh, that reflection and that rating is on the entire county. Your board, your budget, our financial statements, the management That's what I was really extends to everybody. And you know when we when we did our presentation it was a team great team effort that, you know, we present a really easy to present our picture because it is good results.
Thank you. I'm going to have a chicken little buzzard that I'm gonna put on every once in awhile. Let me let me get it now. Supervisor Adam. I can't
wait to be chairman. And then I can characterize everybody's positions out there. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Geis. Certainly it wasn't you I was targeting, Mr Adam. We'll go on to our clerk recorder assessor. Mr. Holland?
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Good afternoon Chairman Carbajal, members of the board. I'm Joe Holland, the County Clerk Recorder Assessor Registrar of Voters. With me, I have Rose Rodarte to my right here who is our Financial Officer for the department. On my left here, I have Renee Bischoff. She's our Chief Deputy of Elections and Melinda Green is Chief Deputy of Recorder. And then behind me here, the gentleman without the tie Is Rick Holly. Rick Holly is the chief appraiser for the department and he's retiring in just a couple of weeks.
Mr. Holland, is that Melinda with your department now? I've seen Melinda with so many departments now that I can't keep track of her anymore.
Yeah we've had Melinda now for about 10 years. Yeah hard to believe. Well, I'm going to give a pretty brief presentation here but we're all available for as many questions as you have of course. So the total budget for this department for 13-14 is $15.3 million approximately which includes $183,000 of capital The general fund contribution for the department totals about $9.5 million or about 57% of the total budget.
The total budgeted FTEs is 94.4 which is down from about 123 FTEs in 07-08. Just briefly, we've accomplished a lot in the department. I'm only touching on a few highlights. For 12-13, we recorded 20% more official documents than the previous year. That's reflected in what Mr. Geis was talking about this economy beginning to improve. Of these documents, we recorded 100% of them on the same business day that they were submitted.
We also successfully conducted the November 2012 presidential general election with an overall turnout of almost 81% for Santa Barbara County. And we have completed over 95% of all secured and unsecured assessment work items by the close of the annual roll, which will be July 1. Next slide.
Supervisor Wolf.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Holland, if you can just go back to the prior slide, the 95%. How does that reflect over the last five years? It seems like we should be at 100%. We should be at 100%.
When I took office Ten years ago, we had significant backlog throughout the department. We cleaned that up in the first year and I was able to come to your board during budget hearings in June and provide you the completed role because we used to complete the role in late May. Now because of budget, because of staffing reductions we're moving into a backlog situation again. We're down from as you're going to see 74 FTEs in the assessor division. We're down to 62 right now and it's making it tough to get all the work done. I actually met with Rick Hawley this morning And it's looking like we're going to be closer to 98% complete, which is why if you go to the next slide.
We are not predicting any service level reductions for 2013-14. Hopefully what we're experiencing right now is below.
So let me just, you know I've been looking at this fund sheet for different departments and there is a fund it's called its assessor AB 1818. And there's $435,000 as the balance and it says here the purpose of the restricted fund balance in the general fund identified as assessor A B whatever is to enhance the property tax administration system by providing Supplemental resources, the restriction is caused by revenue and taxation code.
So that $435,000, what is it used for? And how can that money be used to enhance the problem that we're seeing here to get you to that 100%?
Well, we have that earmarked for our property tax systems because it's one-time money. So if we were to use that to let's say hire another two FTEs it would quickly evaporate. And so to use that one time money for ongoing funds, ongoing operations I wouldn't recommend that and so that's why we have that set aside.
So what are you going to, so it looks like it continues. There was a balance in 2012 of 486,000 and then in June 13 500,000 and then in 14 it'll be 435,000. So why can't you? You're just saying you don't want to use it. I mean, you could potentially use it for an FTE. Let's say we wanted to do it as a one-time FTE. Could you do that?
Yeah, I believe it's restricted to assessor uses so I believe we could unless... Okay. Part
of it is earmarked for the Property Tax Administration.
Yeah, yeah. So what Rose is telling me is that A chunk of that is earmarked for the property tax administration system that we have in place and for the maintenance that we're going to be using that for over the years.
Okay, well you know sometimes it seems like it's better to spend, especially if you've got the money here, better to spend the money to get us to where we need to be so we don't lose the money. And it just seems like it keeps rolling over year-to-year. But anyway, that's... I'm instead of looking at the general fund which I think is maybe where you're going to be of looking at general fund to fund one of these positions. Which indeed you may need because I don't like seeing 85 or 95 or 98%.
I do think we have to be at 100%. And it very well may be that you need someone else in your shop to do that. So anyway, just wanted to point that out and CEO Waller, I hope you mentioned earlier that you've been looking at all of these funds and that would be one that I would suggest we should look at again more carefully to see how we can help Mr. Holland.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you. Supervisor Lavallino? Let's drill down on this thing right now because It's not recurring, I mean you're not going to get another 400,000 next year and another 400,000 next year. So if you went and hired somebody in two years that would be depleted and we'd have zero and we wouldn't have anything to sustain our, and then you'd be coming back to me or us for general fund.
So
I know, but what I'm saying is let's assume it's one time. Let's just assume that he hires one person. He's not going to be utilizing the $435,000. I get that it's one time. All I'm saying is even if it came out of general fund, I'm sure our CEO would recommend that it's a one-time expenditure.
Okay.
I understand what you're saying.
I just, I agree that I just think using one-time monies that are earmarked for something else to put in for a recurring cost. Yeah?
Well... And if we, it is an option to do that. If we were to do that then I would have to plan for attrition when that one time money went away. And so I'd have to be real careful about hiring because I don't want to ask people to change the course of their lives if I know that we're going to have to be letting them go at some point in the future.
And you say it's there for maintenance of the system?
Well, yeah. We've earmarked some of that money for our maintenance agreements on our system that we have to pay every year. Okay. Yeah.
Do you know what you pay every year?
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Yeah, it's about $100,000 a year. OK.
Well,
from that fund in July of 2012 it was $17,000 and then June of 2013 it was $67,000. So there is a balance of $435,000 I
get that but don't we have a new system? Isn't this the new system that we're implementing
Right. And this fund is set up so that we can help pay those maintenance agreements, but if we had some savings and we didn't have to draw it down then that's what we would do because you never know what's going to come up. So it is an option to begin drawing down that fund more severely and hire appraisers with it. We would just have to be very careful going into the future about how many people we hire
Okay. And I want to say, I do appreciate Supervisor Wolf that you're looking at each of these accounts because to be honest with you, I didn't know there was $435,000 there so I do appreciate the fact that we're looking at all these and we do need to have policy direction on what we do with those but You know, I would like to hear from our CEO or Tom on what's your position on that particular fund.
CEO
Waller?
Chair, in that particular fund, I believe it is prudent to get our new system fully implemented and see what the costs are. However, I would offer some other information that may be influential in your decision on whether to bring additional employees on This particular area of the department has had as high as eight vacancies over the year and currently has a low of three. Additionally, your board approved Rick Holley to come back as a retiree hire to assist principally with the financial system but I would assume that he could also be utilized to assist with the assessor systems since that's what he is familiar So my suggestion would be that the vacancies are filled, that those people are trained and then perhaps there's a discussion of whether or not additional resources are necessary.
Mr. Holland, when do you anticipate having those three positions filled? Because I know that you're going to finish your presentation there's a little bit more here but you're gonna get to navigating towards the future but also since you and the treasurer and the auditor are all so interrelated in making sure we realize our assessments Our collection and our processing of that.
I really want to understand where you're going to be able to fill those because if you have a higher need than you will anticipate needing, it's important for us to understand that as well.
Right. We have experienced significant vacancies over the last year. People retiring. A few people got jobs in other counties. We've hired seven appraisers and auditor appraisers over the last year. We still have three vacancies, so we've done two recruitments and out of each, well, we've done three recruitments and out of each recruitment, the last two we filled three of those positions. We are currently opening up another recruitment for these next three positions, and hopefully we'll get three out of that. I'm gonna ask if your board has Revenues at the end of budget hearings if you could even add another appraiser Because really I do want to get to that stable and optimal Position where not only are we doing a hundred percent of the work, but we're doing that hundred percent of the work well Well, we're having to cut too many corners with our staffing down this low and it's not a optimal situation for the County of Santa Barbara
And how much money would it be for that extra person? Mr. Holman?
An entry-level appraiser, full benefits, fully loaded is about $85,000. Thank you
very much. I recently visited your department and somebody pointed out to me that we used to go actually have the opportunity, the manpower or people power should I say? To go out and actually in making the reappraisals actually go out and see the site actually. And what they're doing now is using Google Earth and all those different, which is a good close second in achieving what they need to achieve but it's still not the same as when they need to go out there so. It was intriguing to see the efficiency but yet the continued challenge. Thank you very much if you could proceed.
So to get to a optimal and stable state staffing level, the assessor staff as I told you we're at 74 FTEs in 07-08. We're down to I think 62 FTEs right now in our current year and it is anticipated that the assessor department would need an additional three FTE's appraisers And have a fully trained appraisal staff to operate at an optimal and stable state. So I'm not asking to go back up to 74, I think that through those efficiencies that Chairman Carbajal identified if we went up to 65 I think we could make a real good stab at being optimal in steady state at that level.
And you know I would ask that if you have the money, that you add one of those appraiser positions during these budget hearings if you find that you have the wherewithal to do so. Additionally our election department needs two additional FTEs to offset the risk of staffing critical functional areas with seasonal extra help employees. We were previously at 15 FTEs in elections division and now we're down to nine.
And of those nine, four of those positions are halftime and the other half of their time is spent in the assessor division so right now in elections we only have five people working where we used to have 15 bodies And then additionally, as you know the assessors and the elections we continue using one-time sources of funding to mitigate the service level reductions in 1314.
Thank You Mr. Holland does that conclude your presentation?
That's it I'll be glad to take questions.
Supervisor
Lavinino
and Supervisor
Farr. Thank you Mr. Chair. Mr. Holland I just want to say thank you for Putting a board inquiry form is something I've asked about before, and we're moving in that direction. And that's the online availability for people to look at our Form 460s. I always thought it was strange that people if they wanted to know who was Putting money into our campaigns, had to go down and search through your records and everything. And it looks like by this starting in 2014 they'll be able to just click on and be able to do a quick. So I think that's transparency wise in government. I think you're moving in the right direction. I really applaud you on that. Thank you.
Supervisor Farley and Supervisor Wolf?
Thank you Mr. Chair, thank you Mr. Holland for your presentation. I actually have a question each for the Assessor and Elections Program. The first on the assessor program, I remember a few years back as we were in the throes of this latest recession and property values were plummeting every place how you had to report to us that you had to go out and reassess downward a whole lot of properties, clearly some of them because they were in foreclosure or short sales and the value was significantly less. But also looking at whole areas and kind of having to do this blanket reassessment downward.
Now that the economy is coming back and real estate is doing so much better in the county and we're seeing that in our property tax revenues and all that, as far as your staffing goes want to know not only the day-to-day trying to keep up and having 100% of what needs to be done by July 1st done, but do you have the wherewithal then to kind of go back and relook at some of these because clearly now the values have climbed again even within the normal range. And we need to be capturing that as well I mean otherwise I'm afraid we're leaving a lot of money on the table so to speak.
Right now we have 20,000 properties which we've had lowered the assessment to from their high levels at the peak of the market and. We will continue to kind of mass trend those but if we as the market rises which are correct I think the markets rising while we're sitting here right now. That if we have the staff to look at it, we'll take a harder look at each individual property as we raise them and so we can be more accurate. And if you can't take the time to look at the individual properties, you're going to err more on the low side.
So we will need adequate staffing to pull those 20,000 properties their assessed value up as the market improves. We don't want to over assess anybody obviously, but we do want to bring them back as the law requires us to do.
Okay thank you and then my other question was about elections and I know that in putting on an election staffing an election any election is very difficult but particularly during a presidential election when you've got 81% Turnout and so many different races going on in all these different polling places. It's very complicated, and I know we got into a discussion about a race in the valley but the issue that came up at that time was the increasing dearth of poll workers. And getting people to work in the polls, and those that had worked in the past were becoming increasingly elderly. And so people that had done it in the past were just not going to be available anymore. And at that time we had talked about the possibility of you bringing to the board I think you called it a county poll worker program.
Which would give county staff the opportunity to help out during elections. And there would be some small financial cost to the county, I think, to that but at the same time we would have really good people that we knew we could count on. So I'm just kind of wondering where that is and if you might be bringing that forward to the board between now and the next election?
Supervisor Farr, let me have Renee Bischoff address that question.
Chair Carbajal, Supervisor Farr. We are in the process of reviewing the counter poll worker program for various counties throughout the state of California and we are preparing a draft that we will be bringing forward to Human Resources and County Council for review prior to bringing it forward to the Board of Supervisors. It is our intention to have that program in place before the 2014 elections In addition to a county poll worker program, we also will continue to work with bringing more adopt-a-poll programs in. Right now we currently have five adopt-a pull programs where community based organizations can adopt a polling place and actually provide staff to man those precinct boards so we'll continue to Do that outreach, and also we have a student poll worker program.
That which allows high school students to participate in as a precinct board member, as a clerk at a precinct board. In November 2012, we had 80 students participate in that program and we hope to continue to grow that program as we move forward. The other thing we would like to do is actually go to the Santa Barbara County Employees Retirement System and ask if there are is any way that retirees recent retirees from the county or past? Retirees would be interested in working as poll workers
Wonderful. Thank you.
Thank you
for the questions comments Having none, thank you very much. Mr. Holland We will now proceed to general services and then Followed by treasurer tax collector Mr. Pontes, another new executive first-time budget with the county here. Welcome.
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Thank you.
Good afternoon Chairman Carbol and members of the board. Matt Pontes, General Services Director. It's my pleasure today to present the general services recommended budget For fiscal year 2013-2014. I have here today with me Jennifer Slayman, assistant director and Brian Dugan to my left our business manager. General services proposed operating budget for fiscal year 2013-14 is a little over 40 million dollars. The department's capital budget of approximately 9 million dollars is equal to that of the previous year Of the department's total budget, a little over $8 million or approximately 20.3% is general fund contribution.
The proposed number of employees for fiscal year 13-14 represents a reduction in staffing due to the reassignment of the risk management function from the General Services Department to the County Executive Office. The General Services Department operates at a 25% reduction in staff from our fiscal year 06-07 staffing level of 151.4 FTE employees. General Services has made many great accomplishments this last year, a few of which are listed on this slide.
As your board is aware we recently executed professional service agreements with consulting firms that will assist the county in project design and management of an 80 million dollar state grant to construct the Northern Branch County Jail. This was a major undertaking and important first step in the construction of a secure long-lasting and energy efficient northern jail facility Another notable accomplishment is the completion of several very important capital projects funded by Community Development Block Grants.
These include the Lompoc Animal Shelter, Lompoc Veterans Building Restroom upgrades, the new Cuyama Family Resource Center and the Santa Maria Court Seismic Retrofit Project. General Services completed a $5.6 million public defender remodel at the historic Santa Barbara Courthouse, in which our staff accomplished the project on time and on budget. General Services communications staff completed a project driven by a federal mandate to transition county radios to narrowbanding technology in an effort to ensure efficient use and channel availability for public safety agencies.
We also completed a countywide technology strategic plan. There's a multi-department collaboration focused on attaining efficient and reliable infrastructure, collaborative approaches to decision making, accessible government and the concept of treating information as an asset. As your board is also aware we have a scheduled ribbon cutting ceremony in July to celebrate our completion of the BetterAvia administrative building addition.
The recommended budget for fiscal year 13-14 does allow the department to maintain the same level of service. The department will continue to seek outside revenue sources, such as grants and continuously review lease agreements and any other sources of revenue whereby we can offset portions of our general fund contribution. Reductions in the facility costs on energy efficient improvements will also continue to be thoroughly explored for potential savings.
In navigating towards a stable future, general services is challenged on many fronts especially for the items we've listed on this slide. Regarding deferred maintenance several departments have come before your board today and talked about their deferred maintenance and they have listed their deferred maintenance items on this slide as well. The proposed budget includes $1.3 million for countywide deferred maintenance efforts. The department has relied on this allocation over the years to address deferred maintenance backlog, which rises annually and is now over $30 million.
The deferred maintenance backlog is General Services' largest liability in an area where we need to focus the most attention. This proposed allocation of deferred maintenance funding will not keep up with our failing infrastructure and our backlog of projects across the county. The current level of funding only allows the department to be reactionary on failing infrastructure, and unplanned repairs may cost more and negatively impact departmental operations.
A more adequate funding level for deferred maintenance would allow us to be more proactive in planned replacement of aging infrastructure. Appropriate funding will also allow for more preventative maintenance activities that keep the facilities operating efficiently and economically. Regarding stable organization, as your board is aware the department management has undergone changes over the last year and vacancies at the assistant director and director level.
Successful recruitment of two assistant directors will provide oversight over finances, administration, purchasing, facilities, capital improvement projects, fleet, utilities and real property services. The department will focus on strategic planning, team building, performance management and succession planning as our leadership team assembles. Regarding voiceover IP, one of General Services' goals is to continue to meet the department's technology needs as we upgrade and reduce the risk of system failures by replacing systems that are no longer supported.
The replacement systems offer better disaster response, offer remote work solutions that allow effective communication and save the department staff time, fuel, and energy costs. We're excited to implement voiceover Internet technologies to meet our customers' needs in the delivery of county services. In regards to the procurement software, the current procurement software is antiquated and limited in its service delivery.
Software poorly interfaces with a county's financial information system or FIN and does a subpar job at reporting information on bidding activities and the use of local vendors. Due to the software's poor interfacing departments incur excess staff time while entering, approving and ensuring accountability while traversing between two systems. One thing that you can count on from General Services is that we will continue to make responsible decisions on how to best deliver all of our services with an emphasis on excellent customer service and professionalism.
And that concludes the budget presentation for General Services. I'd like to personally thank the Board, County Executive Office, the Department Heads welcoming me into the team, and the terrific staff at General Services for their support, confidence, and assistance. Believe that we have an exciting decade ahead full of challenges and opportunities With that I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have.
Supervisor Wolff,
then Supervisor Farr. Thank You Mr. Chair and thank you Mr. Pontes and your staff for your presentation. I want to highlight something that's in our book it's D221 and this is one of our performance outcomes And I just want to highlight it because this has to do with what our county buildings have been doing as far as energy savings and we have a Within our county facilities, in 2008 we had a baseline usage of 24 million kilowatt hours and that was 2024. And this upcoming year we're looking at 21 and then for the proposed 2014, 20 million kilowatts hours.
I think the fact that we're moving in that direction and we're achieving some of those goals, and I noticed in just the utility costs that we've seen a reduction in our utility costs as well. So I want to compliment our general services staff for being very proactive and doing some amazing work in that area. And it's showing up in our budget book at a couple places.
Now I just want to turn our attention to this deferred maintenance issue because it's still It's still puzzling to me, and maybe this is a question for CEO Waller. Because in our budget notebook and in the budget book we have a balance of 1,900,000. That's our estimated balance as of this month. At the beginning balance in 2012, we had a little over $2 million. And we spent $139,000 which gets us to the balance that I was just referring to. So my question is, we're putting in this money During our budget deliberations, we're scheduled to put in another $1.8 million.
And yet certainly in the last year we did not spend the money. We spent $139,000 and yet we repeatedly hear about our maintenance needs. It's a disconnect for me. Why aren't we, I know we hear our departments are spending money on carpet. Some are doing little pieces of their parking lots. Explain why this is happening?
Supervisor Wolf through the chair. So this issue we do put aside, we had a policy to set aside $3 million per year and this goes back several years. That was occurring and $2 million was allocated out, 1.5 million to general services and 500,000 to parks and they spent those funds so I can provide a page out of that 1011 budget that shows this. So more went in than was allocated out so a balance of about $2 million was built up in this We stopped the allocation last year so that it matched. We put in $2 million, we allocated $2 million out. We still have the $2 million. As they came up this year and I mentioned this briefly at the CIP is that we do have this $2 million now as a springboard to start funding as we identify the needs of the deferred maintenance.
And we could use, what I've shown here is that we'll draw down a million of that. We can use a portion of that to fund the outside consultants we're talking about using and then whatever balance is left over, we can divert that to public works or general services or wherever your board determines to. So we have roughly have the $2 million to do that whether we want to spread it over two years or one year or three years is an option we'll have once we...
I know what we can do. I don't understand what we haven't done in the past When we had our beginning balance of $2 million, and we only spent $139,000. There
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was no allocation out of that $2 million. I don't have an answer beyond that.
Chair, Supervisor, as a reminder when we discussed the assessment a couple weeks ago what my thoughts had been recently is not only to be able to fund this assessment Even before we were actually talking about a full-blown assessment, but to be able to look more holistically and prioritize our needs instead of the scattered approach that we've used in the past. So from the CEO's perspective what my intent was to do as we got a little bit more information And started prioritizing projects that these funds would be used to sort of prime the pump versus a scatter gun approach.
And I appreciate that, no one likes a scatter gun approach but when we talk about, we just heard about deferred maintenance and my point is As we're doing this year, we're going to be putting aside $1.8 million and we did a significant amount last year and as I sit up here and we kind of decide where we're gonna put this money there is an expectation, I have an expectation that it's going to be spent on deferred maintenance on safety projects and what I'm saying is only $139,000 was spent And if that's all the deferred maintenance we have in the county, well that's great but that's not what I'm hearing. And so I just need to express my concern and frustration because we can't have it both ways. We can't be putting money in and it just sit as like a bank account and not be utilized.
And yet here that we've got so many issues. Thank you Mr. Chair.
Chair, Supervisor, just a little bit of clarification there We have, your board has put money into deferred maintenance. As Mr. Alvarez indicated one and a half million dollars went to general services last year which they've expended it all in and perhaps a little bit more $500,000 went to Community Services Department for the parks and they have spent that $500,000 of your general fund dollars went to the roads department Supervisor Farr, Adam and Lavinino.
Thank you Mr. Chair, actually my comments questions were going to be the same as Supervisor Wolf and even with the revised available fund balances between the estimated balance of 1.9 plus the new money of 1 point 8 that's 3 point 7 million dollars and yet the decreases are 2 point 8 leaving 900 thousand plus in there so I I realize it's good to have a plan, and I know that we need to have a prioritization schedule. But it seems like if, I mean it is dire why we're not able to get this money out and utilized more quickly. And I'm even looking to this coming fiscal year about why We would still be leaving, you know much of a projected balance in that account. So that leads me to a question back to Mr. Pontus. You had talked about some vacancies that the department had had I'm not really sure what the status of those vacancies are clearly we filled your position but if You know, if some of the issue here on getting these projects done has to do with the fact that you've had vacancies or you have insufficient staff now.
To be able to really start moving right away once you have those funds, that's something I would like to know because we can give you the money but if you don't have the people to make it happen then the money is still going to be sitting in the account.
Supervisor Farr through Chairman Carbajal. The vacancies did not affect our expending the allocation that was given to us for deferred maintenance, not related. We were able to spend all of that allocation as CEO Waller pointed out and maybe even a little bit more We have an aggressive campaign to fill those assistant director positions. In fact, yesterday I was in interviews with some candidates there and will be next week. So I'm assuming in the next month we'll have that support at that level and be able to handle the rest of this stuff that comes through the office.
Okay, and so if at the end of this week you know the board would decide to go ahead and put this additional money in here and delineate where we wanted it to go. And your department was going to get a certain amount of money even prior to the completion of a consultant report that would go into more detail. You're in a position to know what you would use that money on?
Supervisor Farr through Chairman Carbajal, we absolutely are. We have already identified some very high priority projects that we know would be at the top of the list whether a consultant's report helped us identify that or whether we already had identified some of those issues. So I think that the consultant reports helps us further verify our priorities and making sure that we're addressing health and safety issues but yes, we are ready to move forward.
Okay, thank you. And then just my last comment to Echo Supervisor Wolfe. I think the work that your department has done with sustainability and all these different ways has been phenomenal not only for the county but also to be a model out there in the community that we can point to so thank you.
Supervisor Adams and Supervisor Lavanino.
Well, all I'm gonna say is quoting supervisor Carbajal this didn't happen overnight and so You know the deferred maintenance is just that it's deferred So you know It's something that got out ahead of everybody and they lost sight of The parking lots, you know, you just walk over parking lot, drive in it, walk over it, whatever. And it's not something that cries out for maintenance until a lot of times it's too late. So we're here now and I think we've got a great new Director of General Services and I think if we give him some money he'll put it to good use and we'll solve some of our problems and work through Thank you, Supervisor
Adams. Supervisor Blavarino?
Thank you Mr. Chair. Mr. Pontes can you talk about the telecommunication system and how much money are we talking about as far as I mean just to have a landline on 3500 people's desks just seems in today's world little ludicrous but I mean are we talking tens of thousands dollars hundreds of thousands of dollars that might be possible savings or do we know that I can always Wait for an answer, but.
Supervisor Lavenier through the chair to 2.8 million is the amount of money going towards this particular project?
Okay so it's costing us $2.8 million. What are we spending right now like on an average a year in phone
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I think that's information we'd like to be double checked and
report back. That's fine, you piqued my interest with this bullet point so I didn't know if we were talking millions but obviously we are. If you could get back with me later that would be great. We'll do that. Thank you. And I also like your innovation, innovative thinking of selling our used vehicles online. I saw that's up 30% so it's good to think outside the box.
I guess I'll go last. I really appreciate, as was said by a couple of my colleagues, your work that you've done on the sustainability effort or plan but a reminder that when it came to us we gave direction to make it a little bit more comprehensive than the way it was when it came to us and even though we've done a lot there's a lot of work that needs to be done. I think we did what we did because it was guided by funding from one of the utilities And it focused a lot on their world or sphere of influence.
But when you think of sustainability, all that we've done that we're doing and that we need to do I sure hope that the direction this board gave doesn't fall on deaf ears in terms of it coming back to us with a much broader menu of items and goals that we need to establish on solar and all those other issues so
Chairman Carvajal, we intend to do that very thing. We have an energy coordinator that is focused on a holistic approach to all of our energy consumption.
I did
notice that
we got some Ford Fusions added to our fleet. As a matter of fact one of my colleagues Drives one's ego boost. Supervisor Lavinino is taking advantage of that wonderful new asset we have, so thank you very much for your good work. Not having any further questions? We thank you very much Mr. Pontes and we will move on now to our treasure tax collector public administrator.
Treasurer Hagan.
Good afternoon Chair Carbajal, members of the board I am Harry Hagan our treasurer tax collector public administrator and to my right is Kim Tesoro the assistant treasurer tax collector public administrator and to my left is the Treasury Finance Chief Rochelle Camozzi The department's mission is to bill and collect all property taxation, process all payments, provide banking services, invest revenue received by the county, special districts and schools.
And to administer the county's debt program, deferred compensation plan, deseeding estates, public conservatorships and veteran services. The Treasurer Tax Collector Public Administrator's proposed operating budget for fiscal year 13-14 is $6.6 million. Our capital budget is $1.2 million, and this expenditure is for the Thompson Reuters GRM property tax system which when completed will replace the 35-year old legacy mainframe.
Our County General Fund contribution is $3.1 million, and this funds about 40% of our total budget. We were able to balance this proposed budget using $206,000 of one-time funding. The department is proposing a budget of 41.5 positions. When you account for our administration at the county mainframe, this is a 23% reduction in our staffing level since fiscal year 0607.
The majority of those lost positions were in the public guardian and tax collection programs. Before I get into the accomplishments here, I just want to clarify one great accomplishment that Mr. Geist presented. Our long-term debt rating that he quoted the double A plus is our lease financing debt rating. Our implied GEO rating would be a triple A. So if we were able to issue a GEO, that's the implied rating we'd receive based upon our lease financing.
And you say GEO bonds?
Yes.
OK. Thank you. Triple rating.
So this next slide shows some of the departmental 2012-13 accomplishments. We were able to hire, train and get accredited two Veterans Services representatives located in Santa Barbara and Lompoc. The dedicated work from all three veterans services staff Resulted in $9.5 million of benefits realized in the county. And I want to Supervisor Carball and all the members, I'd like to thank you all for funding that necessary and efficient program last year.
We conducted and administered two secured property tax sales And these were the first tax sales this county has done in 10 years and it included complications that we'd never dealt with prior. We had two seal bids and one public auction, and later on this month we will have another public auction in my office. And we're also working on concurrent Chapter 8 sale which is an agreement sale with the City of Carpinteria I think at the end of those two, Chapter 7 and Chapter 8 sales will probably bring in another 1.6 to $1.7 million dollars in revenue.
And that'll be to the general fund correct?
Yes, as a Teeter County that's all general fund.
How much was that again?
I'm guessing 1.7, 1. 6 somewhere in there.
From the Carpinteria sale or for both?
That's for all four parcels yeah. Great
thank you very much. And those transactions are likely to conclude by when?
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If all goes well, the Chapter 7 sale there is a one-year period where and that's the public auction. Where people can put in claims for excess proceeds. The Chapter 8 sale which is an agreement sale with the City of Carpinteria I'm hoping that that can conclude You'll see it your board coming up here very shortly, I would hope in July. And money in hand? Might be 90 days after that.
So by no later than the end of the year? Part of that will be dependent upon the agreement we come up with with the City of Carpinteria and it's approved by your board. And 90
days is the worst case scenario out, right?
Likely? Yeah, 90 days from our September date so might be... So
by the end of the year that'll be the... End of the
calendar year, yeah.
Great 1.5 million great thank you! 1.7, no 1.4 for Carpinteria, the other one. Thank you very much Mr. Hagan
And finally, during this fiscal year we made unsecured property tax collections a priority. We upgraded our databases to provide additional reporting functionality. The reporting provided more timely information which allowed my three collectors to more efficiently pursue collection activities. This focused effort has led to at least a 10% decrease in the unsecured property tax delinquency rate.
And I've actually checked that recently and it's about 12% at this point, and hopefully that number will continue to grow. And that contributed to an increase of about $3.2 million in unsecure property tax collections this year. And so you know, I know we talk about this a lot. Doing more with less. Well, this is a good example where we actually did more with less and so I'm really proud of that division and all my staff in my office are really a tremendous group.
And so the potential service level impacts in our office. Our budget includes a reduction of one financial systems analyst. And this position was funded in fiscal 12-13 as one time for the property tax project. It is being submitted as a budget expansion for this budget. This position is critical to the success of the property tax project. It is required for the successful implementation of the project and to provide continued system support.
If the position isn't funded, it could jeopardize our ability to migrate off the mainframe to the new Thompson Reuters GRM system this summer. But it will most certainly affect our ability to maintain the property tax system in the future.
Mr. Hagan and that's fundamental to what? Our collecting our revenues, our processing our
revenues... It's the system that will bill and collect and account for the property taxation in this county.
And without that position should we falter What does it mean in the most practical
sense. The most practical sense is I will have to shift resources. I can't allow that to fail. I'll have to take from other resources in our department worst case scenario if we fail completely. I can't send out tax bills but we're not going allow that to happen.
Thank you
So our projected budget gap for 2014-15 is $11,000. At this level no departmental funding would be required to prevent service level reductions but the loss of any revenue going forward could put non-managed functions as well as revenue generating operations at risk The property tax system conversion project is our highest fiscal priority because property taxation is the single greatest revenue source to our county, our cities, our schools and special districts.
Permanent funding will be required for the property tax systems future ongoing maintenance and that $200,000 figure on the second bullet point, $50,000 of that is for the The other approximately $150,000 is the position I just spoke of in the previous slide. The financial systems analyst position. And so I'd like to conclude by thanking you for this opportunity to present our proposed budget and to share with you some of our accomplishments and challenges that I'm here to answer any questions.
Thank you very much Mr. Hagan. Questions? So again that position is $150,000. Fully loaded yes. Okay. $149,000 I'm rounding. I round too, but I'm hearing people say 149. I round down. Supervisor Wolf? Do you round up or down?
I'm balanced.
She's balanced!
So this is a question for CEO Waller. This is in tab 30, and it's page one. This is the service level reductions. And so the treasurer tax collector, there's no listed reductions. Is that because it was one-time money? So all one time fundings for last year are not considered service level reductions.
Chair, Supervisor, last year when your board Did we fund this last year? I thought we did the pro pay and the veteran services. Chair, I believe you did both of those as well. You did those with ongoing funding.
But this one we did last year and we just did it one time?
Chairman Carbajal, Supervisor Wolff yes it was one-time funding and I believe it was out of contingency.
Okay all right thank
you. Additional questions comments? Having none, thank you very much Mr. Hagan. Wait, Supervisor Adam.
Can I have one? Do you have any vacancies that are unfilled? You have positions but you don't have somebody in them?
Chairman Carbajal Supervisor Adam, yes I do. When I promoted my investment at Officer Kim Tesoro to the assistant position we're in the process of going through a recruitment for her position But because of how the funding works in our office, my previous assistant had roughly three months of vacation on the books. So we kind of left it open to cover that vacation payout and we've got a couple situations like that also in the office but these are all positions I intend to fill I'm waiting for the budget to be adopted to see where I stand. I don't want to leave any positions exposed. Let's put it that way. OK,
so you're still trying to get one more than you have?
I'm not sure if I understood that question. The FSA position. Yeah. The FSA position, yes. It's filled right now.
No, that's actually filled.
It is filled. Oh, OK. And it's fully functioning. Because it got funded
last year.
Yes. And it's a very integral position in the property tax project.
All right, thank you.
Thank you. Further questions? Not having any further, thank you very much Treasurer Hagan. We will now go to our general...actually we Public comment you're right. How many public comments because we have three speakers and I can guess who they are. Why don't we take them up now? Mr. Allen,
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Mr. Bruce Corso to be followed by Mr. Caldwell and then Mr. Armendariz.
Mr. Chair members of the board. My name is Bruce Corso.
Mike is on, because you sound a little muffled. It's on. OK
I'm just muffled. I'm tired, just like
you
are. As stated by your Iowa Comptroller's Office there's some concerns here about retention and being a training facility. In Local 620's view the County of Santa Barbara is becoming a training facility. We have higher than normal workload issues Demand on services and caseloads. We have lower than normal acceptable wages, benefit packages, lack of upwards mobility and staffing levels.
Does the county of Santa Barbara want to be a training ground or does the county want to be a leader among California counties? We have serious service issues. Example, assessor's office has lost several staff members one of which we hired. These are the people that create revenue for you guys. We have several examples, whereas you're losing personnel, you're losing valuable personnel. One of our examples is sitting right here at the CEO. I mean she's been with us for a short time and apparently is moving on. We lost a lot of department heads has been here, a lot cardinal knowledge. We have a lot new talent here and a lot of them I'm sure We'll do a great job. Hopefully they stay with us, hopefully we can keep them. Also one of the issues that we're trying to get around by service levels is the push for interns and retirees to come back to work for us.
We should be building our own workforce. We should have competence in a trained workforce here. Moving faster. Well, since 2007-2008 many management positions has been changed. New ones have been hired and more levels has been placed in. We now have directors, we now have assistant directors, now we have the assistant directors. What we need is frontline service providers.
These are the people that create your revenue, these are the people that provide the service that you guys are obligated to provide to the public. We need to place a higher priority on our well-trained staff. Many of these positions are revenue generating. Please, balance the budget that has sufficient front line staff that can service this public to do our obligated jobs. Thank you.
One second Mr. Corso. Supervisor Adam?
Can I take issue with one of the comments that you made?
You're a
Board
of Supervisors. You're welcome to take any issue you want.
Okay, thank you. The road that
you used was create. These people create the revenue and they collect the revenue. They do not create revenue.
Excuse me, but I disagree. You have people that are in public health facilities, mental health facilities. You have people that do assessors. They're the ones that create the revenue sources for you. They're the ones that brings the revenue source for you so you can have a general fund so you can pay your bills. So no, you're wrong.
Well 90% of the money that comes to this county, to the general fund comes from property taxes.
His people are out there doing the adjustments and I get
that they didn't create it. They collected it
next Chairman Carter, all members of the board. I think I've said this 17 years in a row that I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better managed department than the auditor controller in terms of training, cross-training and people recruiting out of his department. I think there's a lot that could be learned from your other managers. What could you do with $60 million? If you had an additional $60 million today, this year to spend what could you do?
You could hire 600 people at a hundred thousand dollars a year. You could wipe out the deferred maintenance in about five or six years was $60 million. Well that's how much more you're spending on pensions than you were five years ago. Joni Gray said it best, we can either pay for the people to work or we could pay for them to be retired but we can't pay for both.
It's cost you 60 million a year more now than just five years ago. That's why you're broke. It is not because taxes aren't high enough. It is not because of Prop 13. It was because of the pension costs and part of that is controllable. Maybe not all of it but part of it. One of the things I wanted to point out is a discrepancy, and this is something that I think happens in California too much. On page D216 it says that the EOC costs $7.9 million. It said that the BetterAvia addition cost $1.4 million but on page D233 it says the EOC costs 10.1 million and BetterAvia 3.7.
I don't know if that's interest. I don't know what the breakdown is, we don't have the details but we ought to be truthful with what these buildings cost the taxpayers at large. There's a reference there to shifting grounds maintenance from one department to another. We think that's one of the things that should be contracted out countywide. One of the saddest and most telling performance measures left in the book Is on page D-227 from the Treasurer Tax Collector's Office. That has to do with a $10,000 decrease due to lower demand for business licenses.
It'd be interesting to know how much a business license costs so we know how many fewer people have attempted to go into business in Santa Barbara County. $10,000 is a lot because I don't think those business licenses cost too much money. But again that's the kind of breakdown we would like to know what's going on. But think about it. What would you do with $60 million a year?
Thank you.
Thank you very much. Mr. Caldwell next.
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Chairman Carbajal, members of the board, I'm Joe Armendariz. Representing Santa Barbara County Taxpayers Association and the final paragraph of the executive summary Says service levels proposed in this budget do not adequately meet the needs of county residents it says that It is critical to note that the ongoing cycle of service reductions is not sustainable and And so I was a little struck by what kind of appeared as a sort of mutual admiration society with respect to the credit agency ratings.
So the eight, the credit agencies are giving us a good rating as we manage the fiscal decay in the county. I don't think that's something we should be celebrating. Quite frankly, I think it's something that while it's, I suppose technically accurate to take credit for and Obviously the staff is doing a good job managing the money. The fact is, there's not enough money as Supervisor Adam pointed out during Bob's presentation to do the things that we want to do.
In answer to Supervisor Adam, the way to get more revenue is to grow the economy and future property taxes will result as we come out of this recession. As I told him sort of quick, recessions aren't born of immaculate conception. Recessions are a result of bad policies. They're a result of bad fiscal policy, bad economic policy, bad regulatory policy, bad monetary policy.
Point is, bad policy and you're the policymakers of the county And I would submit to you that as we wind down these budget hearings, which I thoroughly appreciate the opportunity to participate in. I continue to not hear much at all about an economic vitality strategy. It's always a sort of reactionary approach to what is happening to us. Our revenues are declining, our costs are increasing, our property tax might grow at this percent or not at that percent. By the way I think it's instructive to point out that the increase in the property tax, the 4%, is not due in small part to oil and gas operations in the county As we are ramping up our production on shore, we're starting to see our property tax base increase. Well the point is, is we could here in Santa Barbara County have an economic renaissance if we were to marshal and focus on taking advantage of that valuable resource oil and gas reserves under the ground that belong not to the oil companies Belong to the people of California.
And so I would propose that you have a policy that says, let's go out and take advantage of that resource. Thank you.
Thank you very much, Mr. Armendariz. Supervisor
Lavallino? Thank you, Mr Chair. One of Mr Caldwell's points I already had highlighted in my book and it did raise a question that hadn't been answered yet. So I will ask It does say for Bet Arabia administration, I don't know if this just counts in all of the interest. But it does say total debt services almost 3.8 million. How do we come up with that? And I thought we were more in the 171, actually I thought it was more like 12 to be honest with you.
Chair, Supervisor, I can speak best to the construction. And the first number that was referenced, the 1.7 is construction. Perhaps Mr. Hagan can help me with debt service since I'm not nearly as familiar with the debt service. I do know that the difference between those numbers is the principal and interest on the 20, that portion of the 2010 COP's but perhaps you could help me?
I'm just looking at the chart on 233 for debt service, and it has Better Avia Administration like $3.8 million. And our payment is $168,000 this year. Sorry to spring this on you too, Harry. I would have thought of it, but since it came up in public comment, I thought I might as well address it.
Mr. Hagan? Chairman Carvajal, Supervisor Labadino. I don't have that graph in front of me but you're looking at debt service page 233? Yes
sir.
Okay so that's going to be made up of the principal payment repayment which is about 2.4 million dollars Interest of about $2.7 million on that, and then there is an IRS subsidy. If you remember this was a recovery zone economic development bond I believe is what it was called. And so we do receive a $1.2 million subsidy back from the IRS as we put claims in.
And then with any kind of COP issuance, there's also a 10% reserve requirement, so that was 158,000. So hopefully that math equals kinda what we're talking about here.
Okay, I'll get with you offline because I guess my question was. What was the part of that portion of that bond that just went, because I know we're doing the grand opening and ribbon cutting and all that. I kind of like to get those numbers straight. And it just seems a little bit different than what's in the debt service. So I can get that offline now.
Actually, I just was looking at Assistant Treasurer Kim Tesoro's phone. She had had an email on that before. And so that does equal to 3.7 in the debt service here, those four components.
OK, so the construction was 1.7? I thought the bond was issued though for like 1.2.
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I think it was 1.9.
Let's follow up with that information later. Any other questions? All right, thank you very much Treasurer Hagan and we're going to take a 10-minute break and come back and get our final general county programs done and then we'll conclude for the day. Ten minute break please. ♪
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♪ I'd like to reconvene our board meeting and we will now move on to general county programs, successor agency and fund balances. Mr. Alvarez, are you going to lead this off?
Yes, thank you Chair Carbajal. We're going to go ahead and go into general county programs And so with this department, this department has been used previously as almost like an incubator. If we get a new program or something it often starts in general kind of programs as it gets larger to then move out into its own operating department. Right now you can see there are no FTE's in this department and so we're not housing any of these such incubator type programs. What we do have is about $3.9 million in operating costs and we have about $11.5 million dollars of general fund.
So within the contributions that we have here in the 3.9 that we talked about, the largest elements of that are the Children's Health Care Initiative. That's about $1 million. We also fund LAFCO of about $100,000 in here. There's the Central Coast Collaborative on Homelessness or C3H. That's about $75,000. And then the large balance is a variety of debt services that we pay through here.
On the 11.5 million of general fund contribution, that's primarily funding the facilities maintenance, capital outlay, strategic reserve, roads projects and contingencies and we reviewed all these in our overview presentation when we looked at our fund balances those are the funding for these specific set-asides There are no service level reductions into this program, although having said that by the nature of it they'll go up and down as the set-asides change from year to year. But again there are no employees so there are no service level impacts per se.
And then as far as navigating toward a stable future, We have retained a portion of the concession savings. That's $5.1 million, we saw that on the first day as we looked at the fund balances. We were thinking that may be necessary as we foresee increased retirement costs coming in 14-15. That would be something we're thinking ahead for and then just to continue the funding for these major fiscal issues that we've talked about in the past and those are currently budgeted into the 13-14 year and the numbers that we've loaded in the 14- 15 year as well.
And that concludes our presentation for general county programs. Thank you very much. COR?
Thank you, Chair. I was requested to elaborate on one of the expansion requests that was included in County General Programs. Joe, if you could bring that slide up for me please. So what we're speaking of here is the expansion request related to management salaries. And I wanted to bring to your attention what was being included in this expansion request, because there are actually three different options that are being included.
Option number one covers 105 managers with an amount of increase of 3%. And this is actually broken down into two components. The first component is give a compaction increase so that the minimum compaction between a supervisor and their employee would be 3%. And then the other component of that is any manager who has been with the county since 2008 and has not had any salary increases would receive 3%.
So if we were to make that calculation it would be $620,000. What we've done is we've estimated that at least a portion of those costs could be reimbursed from state and federal funding programs so just for purposes of discussion we have estimated that to be $250,000 for a net county general fund cost of $370,000 Option number two is slightly different. It includes everything that is in option number one, but it also does take consideration of managers that may have been here for several years but not since 2008.
So included in option number two is that there would be a 2% increase for managers hired I'm going to put on my glasses here, excuse me. So again we'd have everything that was in option one, we'd have 2% for managers that were hired in 2009, 1%, excuse me, 2% for managers in 2008, 1% for managers in 2009 and a half percent for managers that were hired in 2010 and again these would be individuals who've not received any increases 3.3% salary increase As we had in previous, we've netted out what we anticipate could be in reimbursement from state and federal funds.
So I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have in regard to those options.
CEO, does option three include electeds or
not? Chair, we did not include elected department heads in any of this because their salaries are actually set prior to their running for office so we did not include them in these calculations.
Okay. Supervisor
Wolf? Thank you, Mr. Chair. So all three of these take into account the 3% compaction?
Chair, Supervisor, yes. All three of them would include the 3% compaction. That would be the first calculation that we would do and then assuming that those individuals then had received a raise they wouldn't be eligible for an additional raise.
So One of the speakers today, I'm trying to think of who it was. Maybe it was a speaker in San. You have to have that the rate has to be 5% because of civil service rules.
I don't know. I'll let Ms. Muth respond to that, but before she does, I would just make mention that what we're talking about, that compaction would be folks that are unrepresented. So Jerry if you could help me with the other piece of it.
Supervisor Wolfe through the chair, the civil service rules that require 5% are for non-management supervisors. In the management resolution it provides for a 7 to 10 percent differential for managers so any action the board would take on this would require a change to the management resolution.
Thank you.
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Great. Is there any further questions? Having none, we can turn that off. That concludes our... Mr. Geis.
Chairman Carbajal and members of the board, I speak from the point of view of the auditor controller in those proposals. I did send some correspondence to your board that certain managers in my office that got Some adjustments due to equity issues when they got into the ban would be excluded from these calculations if we went with option one or two. There's like 43 people, if you catch that slide again, that maybe they got an adjustment for a fair and just reason but then if you take 105 and 128 it doesn't equal The 274, so we're going to leave 43 managers excluded. And I'll just say that what will happen with those other first two proposals it then takes my people who get paid the same and will create all these disparities between who gets what.
I don't think from in government that that works. My personal opinion is, is that you know all my management team works great together as a team. We all rise together we're all helping each other out and I believe they should all be fairly compensated. To say some people are gonna have to wait a whole nother year just to be considered for a raise It just kind of demoralizes the management group. And, you know, I know the management group pretty good around the organization and they're not happy. They weren't happy with the original plan. They're not happy with lack of cost of living.
You heard it from, you know, county councils, Deputy District Attorney Joyce Dudley. And I think that the real fair thing if you want to Do something for management. It's really should be option three and you know I am just not a believer in creating these inequities somehow based on performance and me personally, I don't think you can manage or evaluate an individual's performance for a pay increase on an annual basis. Maybe over the long term you can manage performance, but I don't think it works on an annual basis and I'm more of a believer that we should get our employees cost-of-living increases. You know, I did send a response back to Supervisor Farr. You know since the last time that they got a pay increase they've lost 8.2% to inflation They also gave up concessions.
They did furlough, they lost their vacation buyout, they lost their retirement offset. So all these managers participated in those concessions and stuff and we're saying well somehow these other two methods is an equitable way to give certain people increases. And I just want to say, I just think that you should think about option three and if you need some money to pay for it Let's go revisit the property tax growth tomorrow. And there is good news out there, so...
Thank you very much Mr. Geis. Does option number three take into consideration the compaction issue? So that there is not a double dip?
Chair as I had mentioned earlier we would not have double dippers from your perspective. I think what you are referring to is double dippers.
Somebody gets raised
in compaction
and you get an extra... Good.
Jerry can you confirm that for me? That's true.
Great, thank you very much. Not having further discussion? Supervisor Lavinino?
Thank you and it's not about option 3, 4 or 5 this is just about some housekeeping
thing.
Are we off of that? I think we're done with that. Housekeeping? Okay, I'm kind of confused as far as And I don't know who else is as far as what? What are we looking at, yeah. I mean, I need a...I don't know if you're going to give us that sheet where and maybe it's in here somewhere last year where we say okay this I want to keep this I want to keep this I want to get rid of so that we're supposed to have those back to you by noon tomorrow.
So you can start whatever but but I'm still really confused with What add-ons you're okay with, which ones you aren't. Which ones? It's just really confusing. I mean there are so many different pieces of paper here and I hope we can just kind of, if you could direct me how to get through this real quick. CEO Waller.
Thank you Chair, Supervisors. So real briefly and please feel free to stop me for clarification on the service level reduction form Anything that you see that the CEO has proposed as an expansion, you'll also see on attachment A. So attachment A which I believe is tab 3 includes all of the Question on that.
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I thought that was only where you said expansion in parentheses. Those are the ones you liked and the ones that weren't saying expansion were ones that you did not approve of.
On attachment
A,
there's a mixture. All of those are supported by the CEO. Some of those are actually expansions and are denoted as an expansion. Others are just routine funding sources from the department. So you're okay with everything on A? That's correct. So then I would move to what's in your tab 31. 31 are additional requests from the departments and just as a reminder that was updated today to include County Council and ADMHS, so everything that's in that particular tab are things that the departments have requested that the CEO is not proposing for your funding And then.
Okay, so on this these are not in our budget right now?
That's correct.
Attachment A.
No no attachment A is already
in
the budget. No it's not in the budget.
But you approve
of it. But are ones that I'm proposing that you add to the CEO proposed budget. Those in 31 are requests from the department that are not and what your CEO is proposing that you fund.
One point of clarification. So the items in attachment A are not reflected in the budget on a line by line basis. The CEO recommended expansions are funded in the budget, the money is set aside as we've looked at the sheets of how much money was going to be available at the end of the year. The funding has been set aside for that and is reflected What is so a does not require any additional funding.
Correct if you add anything from tab thirty one will need to identify funding sources for that.
Thank you
Tom.
If I may chair was just going to mention in response to Supervisor Lavinia's last request. What we have provided you is a copy of attachment E from last budget year and a blank one, and last year what your board did was on the last day of deliberations each of you put on quote the sheet for discussion what you would be proposing to fund and a possible funding source and that's what was used for your deliberations to determine if the majority of the board supported those.
CEO and I would submit to my colleagues that by 12 o'clock tomorrow, try to get the CEO any information you want her to consider as she brings us information for deliberation on Friday. By 12 o clock tomorrow. Okay so that form was emailed
to us but it's not in our book right? We'll get it to
you.
Supervisor Anderson. Just clarification, in terms of other expansions or funding sources?
Anything you want, just get it to our CEO by 12 o'clock tomorrow so that they could get everything revved up and ready to go for our deliberation on Friday morning. And tomorrow, by the morning we will get all the board inquiry request information unless there's a need for delay on one or two but its the CEOs intent to get every member of the board The information from all the board inquiries that we made today so that you could consider that as you submit Information to the CEO by 12 o'clock Supervisor Wolf.
Thank You, Mr. Chair, so Mr. Geis You're hearing this conversation in our timing of when we have to get things done and you mentioned We can have the conversation tomorrow about property taxes Can you elaborate on that?
Chairman Carbajal, members of the board. I've been having recent conversations with Joe Holland who's been as he told you today extending the role. You know he's bringing on all the properties they're actively working on that his reports back to me are the original we estimated 2.22 percent as the general fund property tax You know, as he's extending that rule, that number is now exceeding 4%. And so-
That's not what we're guessing. That's what it is?
That's what he is putting on the assessment role. Now let's get a little sophisticated. Yes.
Okay.
Things can happen to make that rule go down. For instance, if he has a lot of oil assessments that are going on in that role and there is a lot of increase in production reserves. If part of that increase is due to oil assessments we have to be careful there because what usually happens is the oil companies will come back and appeal those values. And that's a routine practice. The assessment goes up they appeal I have to impound. So I'd be a little bit careful about I'm happy to change the estimates because we do the general Acceptable based on input from the assessor to make it maybe take it a little bit higher than that
and then Mr. Gray says we're not going to be able to get into a discussion tomorrow because the board doesn't meet I assume you and our CEO and mr. Holland will get together and on Friday morning Or before that, get us a memo or Friday morning report to us. What is that figure? The conservative figure that we should keep in mind.
We do have that BIF that came out with 3.5? No, it was 3.0 and 3. 5. Correct. So you're saying to be conservative the
3. 0? Or
are you saying more?
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I'd say that if we want to take it up a percent, if we're at 2.22 and we want to take it to 3.2, I'm pretty comfortable in there. And just let me give you some figures real briefly. For every .5% increase the county taxes will go up $650,000 for the general fund. So if you're going to do a 1% increase in our estimate, that would then be $1.3 million. That's after taxes are shifted to the fire, so that is money. There's 145,000 for every half percent increment that would then be shifted to fire, so you have about 290,000 to help the Fire Department out. And then if we applied this same 1% to the Fire Department's estimate Then it would both increase $170,000 times 2 or $340,000 in addition to their $290,000. So we can put that in writing. I just want to give your board some perspective as you go into deliberations if we're going to change these estimates.
That's kind of what the ballpark is.
And I appreciate that and I think the other thing to remember is that we have ongoing negotiations too so For me trying to figure out the, we have these two. We have the wants, the things that we want to perhaps restore but then looking at the revenue side and also understanding what is also to come and that is our
negotiations.
We're looking at one piece of it right now.
Thank you. Supervisor Adam, then I think we're ready
to
adjourn.
Well, I'll just caution my colleagues not to count their chickens before they're hatched.
Thank you very much Mr. Adam. Supervisor
Nielsen? It's funny because You know, we go through these exercises and sometimes people think that you know we're just going to spend willy nilly and it never really materializes that way. I know last time, I think I was the fourth lowest. I know Supervisor Labagnino can't believe that but it is true.
We
are going to
put that on a banner over
your office. I have to keep reminding Supervisor Labagnino of that. You know, I am very conservative.
That concludes our meeting today. Again, in our information colleagues, any information that you want to be considered for the CEO giving us information to start out our deliberations please have any information you want to give her by 12 o'clock tomorrow so they could proceed with their crunching of everything they need to do. Supervisor Farr?
Yes, thank you Mr. Chair and just to follow up on that I had some discussions with Mr. Alvarez in going through some of those board designated accounts and we came across one from the Naomi Schwartz building that may have $350,000 in it so that was I think gonna be one of the board inquiry reports but without necessarily getting into it now I just, if there's any money out there where these estimates, these revised estimates for the fund balances are going to change then I'm really interested in making sure that we have the latest version of that.
And what Supervisor Farr is talking about is that as we went through the reserve accounts, there was a $310,000 balance that was identified as restricted. It should be moving back to a committed balance. It was originally identified for capital. The Auditor-Controller's Office was going to move it into capital. If there is a request from the board, it's committed. The Board certainly has the authority to move that into program restoration if they would so choose and I will be writing up a BIF on that tonight. Thank you. Supervisor
Wolf? You know, I can say I'm conservative or spin thrift or liberal or whatever it is but the main thing is that we need to have the accurate information to hear $350,000. Oh 310 and then we heard about Carpinteria a million five granted one time. It would be good to have and then of course this whole The property tax issue came up on Monday. So we have so much responsibility as we sit here. And unless we have all the information, so one supervisor doesn't get the information. I know these BIFs are really good. But if there is allocations or funding that's out there, we all need to know everything needs to be out there for us to look at and to analyze and to review.
And then let us make those difficult decisions.
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Chair, I totally agree with Supervisor Wolf. The difficulty in having property tax assessments come in twice different during the actual budget hearings certainly makes it difficult for your board and I can assure you it makes it very difficult for the CEO recommended budget as well but I do understand what you're saying. I also want to make mention that The designation information that was provided to the board this year is much more inclusive and transparent than it's ever been in the past. And so, it's exactly our desire to ensure that your board knows every place where there is any amount of funding for your discretion. So please know that we share your thoughts in that regard. And then the last thing I was going to ask the chair, we were to conclude today with a budget summary that I was going to provide I very much understand the board's probably wiped out from their discussions today and candidly, I'd like to be able to adjust my closing notes with some of the information that was provided today.
So if the board would allow, I would like to start out with the budget summary when we start again on Friday.
Perfect.
Thank you.
Without objection, I will adjourn our meeting. We'll see everyone on Friday at 12 o'clock tomorrow fellow colleagues. ¶. ¶.
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