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Good morning, I'd like to call to order the meeting for April 7th for the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors Budget Workshop. Mr. Allen can you please call the roll?
Ms. Farr? Here. Mr Adam? Here Ms Wolfe? Here Mr Carbajal? Here Mr Lavinino?
So that my second grandchild will not feel left out. I actually had another grandchild, that's two in four days so yes. Emmett Knight-Lavinino, so Emmet is carrying on the name. So good for him. Yes, eight pounds five ounces. Yes, drove home from the hospital he is. All right, so we're going to start off with general comment and Supervisor Farr would like to begin.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Well before we begin our budget presentations here I wanted to make a few brief comments about what happened in Isla Vista over the weekend. I know that the sheriff is probably going to be wanting to give us a more thorough report in the next day or two but I did want to just say a couple of things. On Saturday night, I did hear from the sheriff via the CEO and representatives of UCSB officials.
And I followed the local news coverage as I think many of us did. I think that first and foremost in my mind, and probably in all of our minds are with the public safety personnel who were injured trying to protect both life and property. And of course any other innocent bystanders who were also hurt. Deltopia and unsponsored events like it need to end. The proliferation of unsponsored events on Facebook where anonymous individuals or groups can promote an event The draw upwards of 15,000 people without the proper mitigations in place has no place in our county and certainly not in Isla Vista either.
As we've seen it, it just invites chaos and unruly disrespectful and unlawful behavior. Additionally, the cost to the taxpayers is exorbitant. Again, I think that the sheriff would be able to confirm but what we have seen at least in the past is that the majority of citations go to people from outside the area. They come into the community and they cause trouble.
They have absolutely no respect, in fact a blatant disregard for our law enforcement personnel and the very tough job they're trying to do. And no respect for the residents of the community, no respect for our public infrastructure with the damage and the desecration that we saw over the weekend. I meet every month with representatives of UCSB, of City College, of the foot patrol, of campus police, of our pertinent county departments for all the day-to-day issues about Isla Vista. But what happens on the weekends presents another level of problems and concern and cost And of course, the unsponsored events create another big higher level that is so difficult to deal with.
We have had and will continue to have meetings with all of the stakeholders, the property owners, all of the groups that I mentioned before. The district attorney's office is involved and we will continue to look for all the different ways that we can to stop these unsponsored events. I have been out there on Halloween just about every year. I have been there on years where there were as many people on the street as there were this last weekend and it is always a situation that is fraught with danger and uncertainty. I think what has changed now is who is coming, again people from the outside who are not there even just to think they're going to party and have fun. But people who are there to cause great harm and disruption I was heartened to hear UCSB student leaders state that a cultural change is needed.
I couldn't agree more and so I will continue to work with them, the Sheriff's Department and all of our county staff, UCSB and city college officials in the community to address the issue. And you can expect that I will be bringing to the board ordinances, whether they are new or they are toughened ordinances that we have on the books to bring this under control. We'll be looking at the streetscape, the circulation in the community particularly on Del Playa and any other solutions that we can think of to get a handle on this but this is absolutely not acceptable. Thank you Mr Chair.
Thank you very much, and we appreciate your leadership. We know you were out there all hours of the night and it's a very tough situation I for one as well would also like to hear from not only the sheriff on this issue but You know, I think I was just like everybody else when you're watching those images disgusting And I'm hoping to hear from the university that any individual that was involved in something like that that caused damage A senseless damage to property, but more importantly injured our officers that were out there trying to protect them.
That those students are dealt with in the most harsh manner that's possible so With that Mr. Allen do we have any public speakers?
No request to speak
No request to speak. All right, we will move then to our way ahead of schedule then, Mona. We're five minutes early. All right, we're on time. 915 budget overview. I'll kick this to the CEO, Ms. Miyasato.
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Chair members of the board, thank you very much. As you know the budget workshops are going to be fluid so some things won't take as much time others may and we'll be doing a seance first.
Do that early because if you turn the lights out that low later the room might empty.
So just that for members of the public watching or To just check back with us on the schedule because the schedule will be fluid this morning. So good morning everyone Today is the first day of budget workshops to discuss the county's budget for the coming year And I wanted to add if I might today is two days short of my four month anniversary with the county so I want to take the time to thank your board for your leadership into making this a smooth transition and And also to thank all the department heads. Department heads have been really wonderful, and department heads and their fiscal staff for being adaptable and flexible and changing the process this year so thank you very much.
We're holding these workshops earlier than in the past to give your board and the public a preview of what will be coming in the next year regarding department objectives. It's also a chance for departments to highlight their accomplishments, their changes to service as well as their needs and challenges ahead before we finalize the recommended budget which we'll be providing to your board in mid-May.
The information you have in your big binders, therefore is incomplete really and are really drafts of the preliminary work plans coming forward. The binder does not include some of the summary schedules you'll also see in the budget which includes all the revenues and expenditures for general fund and non-general fund. These will be included again in the recommended budget and reviewed in June as we've done in the past.
On Wednesday, we'll also provide a review of options regarding maintenance needs and different funding scenarios. Again, my responsibility to you per the County Budget Act is to provide to you a balanced recommended budget in May for your approval in June at which time you can revise, reduce, make additions to that recommended budget. But this week is focused on department budgets work plans and initiatives in the coming year And a chance for you to provide input to the department, ask questions as well as provide input to me. As we finalize the recommended budget and do final budget balancing. No board funding decisions are required and in fact you aren't making any appropriations at this time but just giving general input.
But again no board funding decisions are required at this time. On March 10th, we provided a full overview of the county revenues for general fund and non-general fund and discussed trends. What I'm showing you right here is a slide we showed on March 10th which is our general fund discretionary revenues in our five year forecast. We have not updated this information yet.
Any updates to the March revenues will be presented with the recommended budget and discussed in June, to extent there are any significant changes. At the March presentation we indicated there was discretionary general fund revenue And that it would be expected to increase in coming years at a rate that exceeds the status quo funding level. So on this chart, the blue was showing you what we believed was a projected increase in general fund discretionary revenue. The columns were our general fund status quo budgets and the gray was the difference.
Mona, we have a
question from
Supervisor
Carball. Yes. Mona at some point maybe it's during the public works but it's more like general. It's my understanding our consultant has recalibrated the numbers in terms of certain deferred maintenance or what have you but I guess I'm just wondering if when we're going to have those numbers? Will it be in the public work section?
Chair Supervisor Carbajal, we'll be discussing that on Wednesday when we discuss deferred maintenance needs.
And again I want to keep that make sure that you keep that other slide of the potential impact of Measure M on our county resources which I know you also included as part of our discussion later on as well but I want to make sure we have that big graph for the public to see of how it could impact county resources thank you
Thank you. In March, again we forecasted about $400,000 of unallocated ongoing revenue and the last couple weeks Tom Alvarez our budget director and I have been looking at our numbers and we think that will actually increase to about $700,000 in allocated general fund revenue given some reimbursements that we didn't take into account. Also, it looks like there's an anticipated about $5.5 million of unallocated one time revenue that we can expect in 14-15. I'm sorry?
Can you go over those two numbers one more time?
So earlier we had said there was about 400,000 of ongoing unallocated general fund discretionary revenue. That's been updated to 700. And we believe there is about 5.5 million dollars of unallocated one time revenue in 14- 15. Okay
thank you.
But again, these may change as we review all our numbers in the next few weeks and close out the recommended budget and do final balancing. Supervisor
Wolf. Sorry, thank you. Mr. Chair. I just want to interject a point and that is in A comment first of all my comment is Mona. Thank you for bringing this to us Again and to mr. Alvarez for monitoring the budget and I know you're doing that with mr. Geis and all the departments but I think You know from where we were just A short month ago to where we are now, we see how fluid our budget is.
And while I've always been a proponent for these workshops or thank you colleagues for letting us move forward with this, It's so important that we also remember the fluidity of our finances at this stage, but also the importance of getting input from our department heads. So that we can combine these two very important pieces of information. And give you as you said not necessarily direction, but some.
Some indication of where we want to go for the budget in June so I just wanted to interject right now how important these budget workshops are even though we do see that the money is fluid and changing and certainly it's positive. It's in a positive direction. So anyway thank you. Thank you Mister.
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As to this year, just a reminder we'll be doing a third quarter financial update in May. Mr. Alvarez will be providing that which will include a projection of the year-end closing balance for this current fiscal year by department and fund. And as you recall, we did a second quarter update a few months ago and at that time we estimated we would have a year end of about 2.3 million salary savings.
So what do we see coming in the next year? As we look ahead, there is positive news. Last year at this time departments had proposed $8.2 million in reductions and this year their service level reductions are totaling about 1.2 million. We overall have reduced our reliance on one-time funding and departments have achieved many accomplishments which they'll discuss even though they have fewer resources and will be discussing what they believe would be optimal levels.
Again, we still face some challenges and difficult choices ahead. As you hear from departments there are some common themes. We know that state reform over the last few years have had mixed results for us. Public health funding has been significantly reduced due to realignment, and we are expecting a reduction in AB 109 funding this coming year. We are expecting some positive changes however, in mental health funding there should be an increase in resources due to federal reimbursement rules related to implementation of the Affordable Care Act. But again, there are still challenges for them to fulfill state mandates.
Many departments you'll hear are engaged in software updates and technology changes to improve their processes. Deferred maintenance continues to be a challenge, and we have updated information as I discussed earlier that we'll be providing to you on Wednesday. Given our worst workforce statistics where we told you that almost a quarter of our employee population is likely to retire in the next five years, some departments are looking towards how they will retain employees and also plan for their future.
The leadership project, which is our management classification system, is under review this year by Human Resources and that will continue through next year. And again there continues to be some issues in some departments where expenses will continue to outpace revenues unless there are structural changes or more funding available, which will be discussed. As I said earlier, available revenues will exceed needs and that's always going to be the case for both ongoing and one-time. So managing expectations this year is critical.
We have included all the budget expansion requests from your departments which my office is still reviewing but they're in the binder. As we discussed in March given the scarcity of ongoing resources Requests will be evaluated based on how well they can mitigate risk or avoid costs, as well as whether there are unavoidable necessary increases. And of course identified priorities of your board.
I'm also recommending that funding recommendations that we would be including be contingent upon the outcome of measure M. I was asked what our plan is, should Measure M be approved by voters in June. So I wanted to make sure the board was aware. At the June hearings, I would ask the board to reevaluate or eliminate any recommended restorations that may be in a recommended budget and to decide which are absolutely critical to go forward.
I would seek reduction scenario options from departments by summer and departments were already instructed to begin thinking of possible options. We'd also look to non-general fund sources to see how much we can leverage given federal and state regulations. We would continue to be more aggressive in redirecting existing discretionary grants towards maintenance needs, so for example your board, we have grants in different departments that are discretionary and we would look to seeing how those could be directed more towards maintenance.
We would provide options to your board late summer, early fall and implement by mid-year. Should the board request we could provide information sooner but given the timing of the budget we thought this was an appropriate and prudent plan. So looking ahead to fiscal year 14-15 and beyond, again we have a positive long term outlook but there are still significant needs and challenges.
There's limited capacity for ongoing expansions in 14-15 although there will be some one time revenues. We're looking at revenue generation so again we'll be bringing a TOT increase to your board for the November ballot. We'll be bringing that to you next month. And again just given the uncertainty We're asking to limit new expenditures in 14-15 but consider many of them the following year.
So after you hear from the departments over the next few days, we would be finalizing the recommended budget. It would be released on May 15th. On June 3rd is the election and we would have the budget adoption hearings on June 9th and 11th. And that concludes the overview. Any questions for your board?
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Supervisor Carbajal.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Like Supervisor Wolf, as we start this process I just want to thank CEO Miyasato and Mr. Alvarez. You might have only been here four months. But you've really delved into everything, CEO Miyasato and your grasp of the issues. And you're just seamlessly moving forward with our budget process that you've fallen into. Speaks, I think to your skill and the great staff that you have as well to just continue that continuity. And I think this board packet was really well done and I just want to commend you for stepping up and I think putting your best foot forward in helping us as we deal with yet another financial round of decisions for our taxpayers.
And yes, another workshop for Supervisor Wolf. She is the champion of workshops and I think that this is going to be very helpful for everyone so thank you Supervisor Wolf as well.
Thank you. I have a question can we go back to the slide projected general revenue growth? The chart there we go okay so on the changes in the numbers in 14-15 that $400,000 now $700,000 That's correct. Okay, and then going into the next year the 4.4 is now 5.5? Is that correct? Or where's the 55 unallocated general revenue one time dollars? Is that in this year?
That's in this year Chair Lavanina and it's not reflected on this chart so this chart just shows ongoing and so the one-time revenue was the five point five. Okay
very good
But if I could just follow up on that, because are we making any assumptions into the future? So in other words would that 4.4 be increased and subsequently the 6.1 or should we consider those to be static?
The adjustment for the 14-15 was really just to that one year. It was a one time kind of offset so it won't be repeating as we go forward. So the numbers for the out years are going to remain unchanged at this point.
I thought that I understood that the 700000 was ongoing
Chair Levine and board members, I think what Mr. Alvarez says is we noticed an error in our calculation for 14-15 that changed it to 400 to 700 thousand so that error wasn't made in the forecast. Okay very good thank
you. And while we're talking about praise I know I heard from one of my staff that he had Stopped by the office here at a different time and at 845 at night, so Mr. Alvarez leaving the building last week. So we appreciate all the work that's being done here, Supervisor Carbajal.
I also want to extend my thanks to Mr. Geis and his staff. Obviously this is a team effort and I would be remiss if I didn't recognize our auditor and But this is an important hearing because our auditor, Mr. Geisen, his deputy, Mr. Thiel have brought the big guns, Betsy today so you know it's a serious hearing when Betsy's in the room so. All right thank you
and on that 5.5, is there a breakdown of what that 5.4 is or are we going to get into that later?
Yes, we have the detail of that and we can provide that to you okay
very good.
All right so we are Supervisor Adam could we get an updated version of this slide? That might be kind of nice
We could update this slide, it will have one change just to the 14-15 and I think the other element was we were talking about one time. So we'll update the first column of this slide and then provide a separate piece of information that would have one times identified for 14- 15 and 15-16.
Perfect all right so I guess now we would go to the public for if there's any comment on the opening comments? Okay Mr. Caldwell is recognized. You know what? Hold on, I have you. All
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right.
There you go.
Chairman Lavinino, members of the board, Amanda Caldwell representing COLAB. As you know, I have taken upon myself over nearly the last 20 years to read the county budget book from cover to cover with regard to this particular exercise. I didn't have time to read any of it because it just came out last week. And I'm not sure how anybody, especially the five of you unless you were staying up all night could have read it either.
It was a heck of a lot of information. I think it's good to get the information out early but Supervisor Carbajal I want to remind you of a promise you made that I think was echoed by everybody on the dais last year that we're going to go back to the division level In the budget that we weren't going to just have a broad scale overview of the department as a whole, but we're going to get dig down to the division. To see what each division was doing how they were staffed their performance measures at that level.
I didn't see it in this and maybe you're gonna get it for June? I don't know. But we want to know if that's going to be the case, because as you well know, the citizens expect you, as their elected officials, to in essence ride herd over some 3,800 county employees who are charged with spending $800 million of their money and who are charged with keeping the public safe.
And keeping our roads built and everything else. So we're looking to you, say well to what degree are you able to do your job? To what degree do you require staff to give you the information to do your job? That's all I do. My job is simply looking over your shoulder. I've not aspired to be a county supervisor. I don't envy the job that you have to do, I understand it's hard but Colab was created and my job was created to look over your shoulder and sometimes they'll look over your shoulder and say they don't have the information they need to do their job. We used to have a breakdown from for instance of workers comp claims by department This is costing you what, 10 to 15 million dollars a year now?
I used to manage work comp. Work comp is usually a morale issue more than it is a safety issue. We want the information in detail all the way down. Not looking through a keyhole and seeing a small little snapshot. We need a panoramic view, and maybe it's not going to happen this week but is it going to happen in June? Thank you.
Supervisor Carball. Thank you Mr Chair. Mr Calderon I know you'd like to albatross me with such a promise. But if you go back and look at the hearing tape, you'll see that I didn't make a promise. What I did say is that I think it would be worthwhile in the future for us to examine how we might be able to in some form, in some process whether it's part of our budget process or as parallel process Where we are able to work with our departments to identify some performance measures.
Division level, I don't think I got into the weeds on the division level but I do think that I have always been a believer in performance measures. I'm not so sure that the previous budgets while they provided more insight and information in this area were all that and a bag of chips. I think we never really developed them in a way that they should have been developed But having said that, I do believe that there is utility in performance measures.
And I still believe not just because Mr. Caldwell got up and said this but that we ought to really examine if there is a process, a parallel process where we might be able it could be a compact so not necessarily the budget but it could be part of the budget process Where we are able to examine. Some of those figures that Mr Caldwell mentioned I think it's worthwhile and- I thought there was a consensus to consider that but I'm not sure that we ever took a formal motion.
And I still believe in that I think. There was once a CEO who Mister Brown who came up with the budget document Came out with a different budget process that didn't really incorporate those performance measures as was done in the past. And the last discussion we had was how can we not lose some maybe more focused, more strategic performance measures that addresses the issue that we just discussed in a way that bridges the new process and the old process? So-
Supervisor Lavanino if I may. Supervisor Carpahal, I agree with you that some of the performance measures under Brown administration were fluff pieces. I agree with that but that's not really what I'm talking about. What you and I remember Supervisor Farr also echoed this last year is there was two to three hundred pages cut out from the budget and they were the division level information. You only had a department overview it didn't give you the division level breakdowns any longer Yes, the performance measures were pretty much missing too. But it's also your ability to overview each division. Like for instance you have public works, you have flood control, there are different divisions within that. Fire department has different divisions and we didn't have the breakdown anymore.
There was 200-300 pages missing and I specifically remember you saying you wanted to see that added back in. Thank you.
You know,
I would like to see all that information. You know, I don't understand exactly how we can go in and find the places that are expensive where we might be able to cut and we may find that things that we thought were more expensive or a better value than You can't find the cuts and fills you know to put it in dirt moving terms unless you can see the map, you know, you have to you have to Take a survey of the whole field and then you find the high spots in the low spots but you can't do that without a map and you know, the the division level accounting is kind of the I don't know how we can prioritize things unless you know what the relative expense.
You know, you need to be able to look at it all in relative terms and say as this board goes along what are their priorities and what are their values? You know make the priorities from that instead of you know just sort of macro level really 50,000 foot elevation of just the departments. You know without as much information as Andy's talking about and so I would support having that and I don't know if anybody else wants to see it but I would like to.
Supervisor Farr?
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Well, Mr. Caldwell, you're right. I did ask for more information but I think for the most part for the budget process, the information that we have before us is good but I think for the board and for certain members of the public like Mr. Caldwell that want to do a deeper dive, I know what the board had a few years ago which then was stopped which I found to be very helpful It was very large. It was very comprehensive.
Clearly a document that was probably time consuming to produce and certainly very expensive to print. So not a document that, you know we could probably just have all kinds of copies out there but I have to say You know if there was a department that you you know I really wanted to understand better and especially some of the larger departments. Alcohol drug and mental health public health Sheriff's Department has a number of a lot of employees in a lot of.
And I think it's really important that we have different divisions in it to be able to get that kind of a breakdown as far as how many people in each division, what those positions were, what each division costs as part of their total budget. A lot of that information is in our budget but this was broken down to a deeper level and it was also laid out in a format So I guess that would be my suggestion for what some of us are talking about. And maybe if Supervisor Adam, our staff could show him one of those old cost center analysis to see whether that is something he would find useful.
But I realize it has to be balanced against the time of the staff and those were the days where your department had a lot more people in it so I'm certainly sensitive to that issue but Anyway, I think that that's some of what we're talking about. Mr. Caldwell will
introduce it. Mr Supervisor Carbajal and then Supervisor Wolfe. And I think realistically speaking, I would imagine the answer is that between now and June, that would be very challenging to modify our process in our document. So I do think that once this budget process is done in June CEO Miyasato, Mr. Alvarez and Mr. Geis we explore what that hybrid might look like because certainly the old style like I said wasn't the panacea but it did provide some insight and you know I don't want the document that we had in the past just also to be a busy work document where we're just coming up with a bunch of useless things there's some really good stuff that was in there but there was a lot of useless things as well The question is, what is the most strategic document that can maybe be a hybrid of that would be best for us?
Nothing precludes our staff like my staff. That have gotten extensive training from the auditor at my request to understand our budget system so they could go in there and manipulate and understand those budgets as our staff are supposed to do. My staff have gotten extensive training. In my office and I just, I'm not sure that. So anyways, I think after this budget in June that we examine how the conversation with the board what does that document look like and have that discussion?
CEO Miyasato?
I'm just going
to pass.
CEO Miyasato?
Chair Lavagnino, board members. So we hear those comments and we'll look at what we can do better for next year. I think it is too late for this year but we can provide information if there's specific information you'd like we can provide that to you. There are two improvements that were made in this upcoming years budget and one is in the, we call the D pages which is the text In the back of that, there is a breakdown of positions by program area. So that was a change in response to the board and also we did add performance measures. So listening to the board last year, the departments did include more performance measures in their budget so we asked them to put key performance measures in as well.
And regarding I think you know I've been doing budgeting for 20 years in different organizations and I think what's happened We used to have those big printouts of this what you're saying is that cook those cost center books and as things became More electronic and databases became more sophisticated because the budget changes. The budget also is a fluid document It's the policy plan, but throughout the year your board is making appropriations And so as it changes the staff over time has found it better to have things in an electronic format because it does change and when you print something out There's a balance of making sure you print something out that the public can understand, but also that's accurate. So I think over time as we've had more systems and budgeting systems, that's how it's evolved from having a static document printed to something that's more dynamic.
And I think that's just been the issue that's created this maybe not reluctance but this issue of not having one static big document printed
Very good. And as far as talking about the time frame, yeah I got this a few days ago but we are two and half months ahead of where we were without this document so this is a very good starting point.
Yes? And just for the record Mr. Caldwell, I read my stuff and I'm sure my colleagues read their material too. I can't speak for them but I know I
did. Actually I read all about what the first district accomplished this year which was very impressive. All right, so we are supposed to actually be scheduled for a break. But I think that would be a little bit... Mr. Allen?
Just wanted to point out that we are having a little bit of a problem with the projector and if we did take a short break, we could take a look at it. I
thought that was just me! Okay good. Alright yeah let's let's take a 10 minute break and have you see if you can get that fixed for us. Thank you ♪ ♪
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The. ♪ Huh? All right we're going to reconvene our budget workshop. So if you're a supervisor or CEO it would be nice to be here While we're waiting, Mr. Geis you mentioned something to me during the break if you could let everybody know it would be nice about the added information that might be available to the public.
Chairman Lavinino and members of the board I just wanted Remind the board that when we made these budget changes to summarize at budget program level, we really didn't get rid of the details in the budget. We still have financial data at the financial program level that rolls to the budget program level. We can also look at our data by organization, we can look at it by project, we can look at it by activity and we can look at it by area. So our goal when we revised the budget book was to try and get more of the We just never got back to.
Here's what we think that the lower level of detail look like and here's how we can get the public to access it. So it's still a project we haven't forgotten about, we just haven't got to it. Okay.
All right so we will move forward then with the next phase which is departmental budgets policy and executive. Ms. Miyasato?
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Chair Lavaney, new board members thank you. And before I begin I do want to do another round of thank yous because I was remiss To first of all thank the auditor staff. My transition has been made exponentially better because of Mr. Bob Geis, Theo Filotti and Betsy Schaefer in working with us on this so thank you very much as well as the staff in the CEO's office our budget staff led by Tom Alvarez, Richard Morgantini, Joe Toney, Yetta Christensen and John J. Singh we're a small but mighty team so thank you very much as well.
So the Board of Supervisors do you want to get the lights Mike? So
that's a loaded question.
The Board of Supervisors has an op. Has an operating budget of $2.9 million this year, there's some money set aside for capital for a copier to replace something in Santa Maria. Mostly general fund, 2.9 million. FTEs are 21.5 and actually there was new information provided to us that didn't make it into this but it will be in the recommended budget that will go down to 21 FTE.
There is use of one time fund balance this year and I'll explain why. There are no service level reductions and no expansion requests. This next slide just shows percentage of general fund versus others. So again, the board's budget is based on a general fund contribution and this year we'll be using some fun balance. This next slide just shows a five-year summary of the general fund contribution. And as you can see, it's been pretty stable. It looks like there have been dramatic changes just because of the scale of the graph. But it's been holding pretty steady. Any increases have really been because of salaries and benefit increases over the last few years.
This is a summary of one time. The board offices have not had to use any one-time funding this year because of increases in some variable costs, we're going to be using fund balance to cover those costs and that's related to increased utility costs, some IT costs and a big increase in general liability costs that are spread throughout the departments and this is the board share of that.
Here's the staffing summary. So again, it shows 21.5 FTE. This chart will change as I mentioned. So in this current fiscal year, District 4 went from four FTEs to 3.5 and next year they plan to fill the vacant .5 FTE with no increase in budget. In addition, District 2 has alerted us that it'll be decreasing its component of staff from four to 3 point five in 14-15 so you'll see a net result of 21 FTE in the coming year.
So here are some of the accomplishments that we've highlighted. There were many produced by the board, but we chose a few to highlight. One was the completion of the new Koyama Valley Library and Family Resource Center. Many board members advocated for additional safety improvements in Highway 154. Through the board's leadership, we were able to retain three community assets in Isla Vista from the former redevelopment project.
There has been more emphasis and focus now on deferred maintenance of county assets roads and facilities. And we've initiated an exploration of inpatient mental health beds working with Marion Medical Center in Santa Maria. Some objectives in the next couple of years from one of the board offices, one is to maintain the long-term fiscal health of the county. And last year I might add that the board was able to increase the strategic reserve by $4.2 million and during the downturn that's a pretty impressive feat given the reductions that were also being made.
The board has remained engaged and it continues to be in working on public safety realignment with the 109 implementation There's been leadership on the board and continue to be next year working with businesses in revenue generation but also to enhance, look toward a economic development strategy. The board continues to prioritize public safety and making sure that the community is safe as well as protecting safety net services for those who are most vulnerable in our community.
Again, some other objectives are continuing to work with Marion Medical Center and Mental Health to complete the plan for a new mental health facility. Continuing to look to enhance recreational and open space opportunities. And again, to enhance frontline law enforcement and fire protection services. There are no service level reductions being requested.
We have a question from Supervisor Farsh, excuse
me. Thank you Mr. Chair. Ms. Miyasato the only thing I think I would add to the objectives that you've listed here for the Board of Supervisors is that we're always working to protect agriculture.
Thank you very much. There are no service level reductions and next year again just we have some variable costs that are expected again in IT liability and utilities that would require us to use some fund balance So in summary the board continues to provide outstanding support to our residents and constituents. In a measure, in a way that's timely responsive professional respectful efficient and accountable.
And continuing to provide constituents through departments indirectly with the best services that we can. With that I'll entertain any questions on the boards budget.
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I don't think I see any, so we can move on to County Executive Office.
Thank you, board members. The county executive office of the CEO's office as you know is an amalgam of different divisions. The clerk of the board H.R., Office of Emergency Management, Risk Management, as well as County Management Budget Staff. So I want to also thank the leadership of those groups. Mike Allen, Jerry Muth, Ryan Rockaband, Ray Armatorio, as well as the assistant CEOs in our office and Mr. Alvarez So it looks like we have a huge operating budget of $42.3 million in the CEO's office, most of it is in our risk management funds.
The CEO has actually management budget as 4.1 million, Office of Emergency Management is 1.2 and HR is 4.2 million. We'll be using one time fund balance and many of our payments have to do with claims in our risk funds. We are not requesting any service level reductions or expansions this year This chart again just shows the sources of our funds, 64% of our total resources are attributable to risk management and 20% of our funds or 8.2 million is from the general fund.
Again this is a five year summary of our general fund contribution. It looks pretty much flat, although we had position reductions. And it's because position costs increase and that's why the total costs, the general fund contribution looks flat. If you look at our positions, oops this is one time use of one-time funds and as you can see our reliance on one-time funding has decreased.
So this is a staffing summary. 14-15 we're recommending 58.3 FTE and there were some changes I want to highlight from last year. The clerk of the board will be adding a position which is offset by new revenue from LAFCO and shifting funds from a part time extra help position HR will have a .75 FTE, which is being shifted from ADMHS basically. The position will be in the Shared Services Division and the remainder of a .125 FTE was an increase that occurred this fiscal year for our cable TV manager. And just to say this looks flat in FTE's and it's because in fiscal year 10-11 seven positions were added to the CEO's budget from the Office of Emergency Management And in 11-12, risk management was added.
They went from 10 positions to six. So I don't want to miss the point that the CEO management HR reduced a total of 12 FTE during this time and you just can't see it because of the additions of the other positions. We had many accomplishments in the last year. There were some changes in our budget process, and we developed a five-year forecast tool working with the auditor's office to assist in planning our budget for the longer term. We assisted the health and human service departments with systems change processes for mental health and implementation of the Affordable Care Act. Emergency services and the CEO's office established a drought task force to better coordinate actions.
And the Office of Emergency Management has been very vigilant about training staff to ensure they know their roles, and had a simulated terrorist exercise this last year. A couple of other highlights from Human Resources, they obtained significantly lower than trend health care rates. So they actually saved us funding in looking at healthcare benefit rates. They also did an audit of our enrollment of who's using healthcare benefits and through that audit was able to save half a million dollars for the county.
Risk management also worked with the committee to establish targeted levels of fund balance To ensure all our risk funds were appropriately had enough fund balance at a desired level. Without having to build unnecessarily high levels, it would be more cost to our departments. We also implemented a plan to mitigate severity of claims. Our focus has been on resolving our tail claims and workers' compensation.
Looking ahead, we'll continue to implement a systems change work in mental health. Continue to coordinate the task force to reduce water and will be actually launching or we have started to launch a media campaign to help people look at ways to reduce water. We're developing a plan to address unmet maintenance needs which we'll discuss with your board on Wednesday.
And continue to work towards structural balance. HR will also be implementing a plan, a workforce plan and as they say it's to get and retain the right people at the right time with the right skills in the right jobs as we move ahead. The Office of Emergency Management continues to maintain a highly trained workforce to ensure again that there is effective response and to continue to ensure eligibility for funding programs And risk management will continue to improve claim management and providing data to departments so that departments can better understand the issues that are causing workers' compensation claims, and to better prevent those.
Here's some of the performance measures that will be in our budget. Percentage of counties, general fund budget that is structurally balanced. This is basically whether operating revenues are equal to operating expenditures and our target is always 100%. We show an estimated actual less than 100% because when we adopt the budget, we may start out that way but usually at year end with salary savings or operating expenses are less than our operating revenues. Number of emergency operations center exercises, we'll be doing two large scale exercises and we always have a goal of 100% of closing worker comp cases that are open We strive to have a high percentage of departmental compliance with our safety audit recommendations within 60 days and percentage of EEO investigations concluded in 90 days or less.
We always strive for at least over 90% in those. Again, we are not requesting any service level reductions. And as we look ahead, some of the key challenges that we'll be facing is, as you mentioned earlier, how do we provide greater countywide policy and fiscal analysis to support recommendations for your board and the departments? Continuing to attract and retain a thriving workforce.
Looking at structure and funding of our management class comp system. Implementing or being a part of the implementation for the Affordable Care Act. For our employees, sustaining positive workers comp results and reduced costs for the county. We know that there's increasing medical practice premiums and we're addressing those. And right now we primarily rely on grant funds to sustain our Office of Emergency Management. And they've been doing a great job in finding those grants but it might be a challenge in future years if those grant funds start becoming scarce.
So in summary, the CEO's office is building an organization that is sustainable resilient able to manage and mitigate risk and committed to an engaged and thriving workforce. And I thought of a quote because I did ask DeParmes to think of quotes or summaries That exemplifies their departments and what I came across was it is not the strongest that survives nor the most intelligent. It's the one that is most adaptable to change, and I think a risk we face is thinking that once the recession is over or that we're coming out of the recession there's no longer need for change.
And that puts us at risk. As we move out of the recession, there are still going to be changes that we'll have to make looking at how we do things continuing to strive for continual improvement so that we can have an organization that's resilient and adaptable to meet the needs of the community on the board. With that I'm happy to take any
questions.
Supervisor Wolk?
Thank you Mr. Chair. On slide 9, there's the last bullet talks about HR is implementing a workforce plan to attract and retain qualified employees. Is there a cost associated with that? And how does that relate also to, you had mentioned in your opening remarks about looking at the leadership program. Do the two of those, does leadership and this workforce plan, are they one and the same or are they separate? And again, how much is this going to cost?
Chair Lavaneda and board members, the effort of the work force plan is intended to be within the resources of HR. So we're not looking at additional costs right now. Jerry has already started working with a work group on how he would do that so there right now is no additional cost to implementing that plan. It is separate from looking at the leadership project although they are very much related but their work at evaluating the leadership project will be a separate effort.
And I also, I want to thank Jerry. During our last meeting, I had talked about or raised the question about Employee University and you did provide a detailed response to that so thank you. I appreciate that. The one thing The other thing that has concerned me and I think it really came up during this last weekend. Was the CEO having some oversight of a PIO?
I think I called Mona. I'm going to talk about a couple of things. One is that we were not totally kind of out of the loop on what was happening until the next morning so 2 things one making sure that that the system that we have in place is working and up-to-date and consistent I don't see it in here. How do you propose that that we go into the future with that need?
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Board members, supervisors. It was in the board letter that came regarding today's workshop and I do think there is a need for more coordination overall and in my experience of my former job that proved to be a valuable resource. What we're going to start out with in our office is to do extra help or small contract with someone to get them on board to see if it would work helping coordinate and also provide better public information to our media and to our residents So I think we're gonna start small to see if that would work and if it does work And we think it is a valuable resource to the county We would probably come back to your board and maybe ask for additional ongoing resources, but for now, we're just going to start small
Well, that's you know, like I said, I knew I read it somewhere but it wasn't in this Presentation, but you are moving forward. And that's I think that's a good thing. Thank you
I have a couple questions and they might be more for Mister Alvarez. I'm not sure, but if we go to the budget overview page for the county executive office just wanted to go over a few of these that have you know significant changes from one year to the next and in the budget by budget program in emergency management. There's a over $300,000 drop off is that are those grants What's the reasoning for that?
I'll look at the detail for you, but in large part what they get are funds to be distributed both to our county and to other entities for things like capital expenditure and so forth. So it may happen from year-to-year that those amounts change or aren't fully distributed and will be in the following year. But we can get back to you detailing that change out, but that's the nature of their funding from year-to year.
Okay. And the other one I had a question on is two others. One is the services and supplies. There's a significant increase from. 1213 actual to an increased another almost 8 million dollar increase. From 2012 13 that the 1415 recommended. Is there something significant there that we weren't we had in a different category before just seems like a. So I'm looking at the budget overview page, In the CEO's office in the second line under salary and benefits as services and supplies, it was 20.2 million and now it's 28.4 million.
Chair Lavenino, so we do detail out what some of the major changes are and on page D6 we do talk a little bit about that. There was a unique issue that occurred and it had to do with cost allocation plan charges. And so those sometimes change significantly from year to year. In this case, it was tied into county council and the amount of direct billing that they do and their overhead rate can fluctuate from year to year. And we had a very significant change I think we mentioned last year as well in that overhead rate. And so risk went from a credit balance of about $30,000 to us very significant allocation of about 1.3 million.
So we'll see that in every department basically?
It is in a lot of departments yes.
Very good. Okay, thank you very much. Any other questions about the CEO's office? Good. And before we go to public comment then we'll finish with County Councils. I have a question as far as agenda management goes. This is our last one before we're supposed to be going to lunch but Are we going to want to move forward and go through our other departments and start going through Ag Commissioner and those before lunch? Yes, good. Okay very good so we will just plod through okay Mr. Gazzone.
Good morning I'm here this morning with Chief Assistant Rachel Van Molen, Chief of Litigation Marty McKenzie and our Business Manager Karen Libby so we can provide one-stop shopping if needed on questions. I'd like to start with slide seven And remind you the board that you received great results again this year from the talented and hardworking attorneys and support staff in your office of county council.
There's a short list, but your attorneys and support staff persuaded the state to remove an $80 million risk from the Northern Branch Jail Project that would have occurred if the state had failed to sell bonds They won at the California Supreme Court on property tax case involving mobile home parks. They sprinted to best protect the county on some Camp 4 issues.
They prevailed in the Santa Barbara Ranch appellate litigation and thereby prevented the county from having to pay $500,000 of attorney's fees. They were very successful with civil litigation cases, either winning outright at trial or bringing about very cost effective settlements. We continued to have great results with our You Fix It, You Fly It training program which gives you confidence that the attorneys you see on Tuesday Also have practical litigation experience and know what to put in the record or what to be concerned about. So we're in a problem prevention mode And through a very successful recruitment this year We hired attorneys to fill the two positions that the board directed in last year's budget hearings. We hired one attorney away from HUD and Uh, in DC to provide a full-time attorney support to community service departments challenging affordable housing portfolio.
And we hired another attorney away from a very well respected national litigation firm so that we'll be better able to handle more of our own general fund litigation in housed, uh, in house and cheaper than going outside. Let's see if I'm qualified on this. Okay. On slide eight, I won't read it to you. But those are the list of some challenges we have coming down the road.
And just looking at the first few items, we will be litigating about a $710 million disputed roll value concerning launch facilities, private launch facilities at Vandenberg Air Force Base that will be a very big deal. The Northern Branch Jail is scheduled to move forward. For bidding and construction phases during the next fiscal year that also will be a very big deal. And with about $139 million face amount of those contracts, if we can shave half a percent or a percent here and there on good legal work, that's a lot of money.
I thank our CEO and budget director for the many hours in meetings that they took with me in trying to make our budget work or just to work less badly for the high volume of legal services that we provide. Unfortunately, the CEO previewed for you in March's budget workshop that the present budget model doesn't work very well for county council when we surge significant resources into general fund projects like the JL State Water Project, Chumash and in general general fund departments.
In her budget kickoff instructions Ms. Miyasato asked departments to include a quote or an image That reflects their department. We have one of each. OK, so I've lost my qualification code for this device. OK, thank you group help team building exercise here. I see we have different numbers. OK the drama builds. Okay, so our quote is courtesy of Benjamin Franklin. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
In other words it is better in oh-so many ways to prevent problems rather than to litigate failure. We have people who can litigate failure but we don't want to become accustomed to doing it too often. But even preventing failure, we need enough attorney resources to provide those ounces of prevention. So our quote is Benjamin Franklin. And our image, courtesy of the Santa Barbara Independent in a 2010 article showing water spilling over Bradbury Dam which would be a goal but it's not on my work list.
A goal shows you why the present budget model really doesn't work for county council essentially If you think of the water going over the dam as all the overtime work that we do, because all of our attorneys are overtime exempt. So when they work 60 hours, we collect revenue for 50 whether it's risk funded now or cost allocation two to three years down the road. But those 20 hours running over the dam, you're seeing the work but we're not seeing the revenue.
So it's a problem. We don't capture any of the significant overtime that we do. I understand the federal and state restrictions like Circular 887, that says we can't actually charge back more than 40 hours a week for attorneys. I get that but it is a problem. The reality is we're getting the job done by having our managers and many of our overtime exempt attorneys in the office consistently more than 55 hours a week working six day work weeks That's how we're getting the job done and you're getting great legal support because of those hours.
However, that should not be the way we do it. It's really not sustainable. We've hired a lot of new to us lawyers and I would hate to have us be the training factory that they go on from us to some other government position. During the first six months of the present fiscal year, we determined that we spend about 59% of our legal work on general fund activities But only received about 37% of our revenues from the general fund.
So, the significant figures are not real important but someplace around a quarter of the work that we do we don't get funded for and I simply don't have a budget that allows me to hire the additional two or three attorneys that would take us down to a balanced workload where everybody worked 50 hours a week or less. The budget shortfall should also concern you because it means we don'y have any real surge capacity And which also bites into our ability to provide problem prevention training to departments.
When something big or fast moving comes in unexpectedly, I end up having to juggle reassign work to free up the right attorney. It's wildly inefficient, it's bad for morale and it really shouldn't be sustainable. Or we just fail in a different way. Like we did in the Del Rio litigation, which good results at trial. But because I didn't have any attorneys left to handle the case at trial, I came to you and said, I'm failing and I need to use outside counsel, which we did. And we're going to end up spending about $270,000 to do what we should've been able to do in-house with the right resources.
I recently provided the CEO With a tool that we use in County Council. That's the state of Minnesota's risk assessment questionnaire by law in Minnesota if you have a software contract of a certain size, you have to use that checklist but it's also handy not just for software projects. We use it in county council when we're looking at the projects that we support to figure out what are the high-risk or likely to fail projects and how can we take them from red to yellow or red to green in term of risk mitigation with things that we do?
Slide 14, which I'll ask Karen to go to since I'm failing on the slide department. Shows you that we face a risky combination next fiscal year because we again face a shortfall of general fund revenues at the exact time when we need to provide Solid legal support to high risk or high value projects like the United Launch Alliance, 700 and change million dollar tax cases. Putting the Northern Branch Jail out to bid working state water project issues in a way that preserves all of the board's options. And I'll digress for a second and say We've been working closely with our local provider, CCWA. And taking some ideas that we have that the board had asked us to work with these folks on, pressing them back to the state so that when this comes back in even draft form, the county's interests will be best protected.
But that also takes time. Shifting back to good news. I recently completed one-on-one, 20 minute check ins with every one of our attorneys and support staff. We used a five question approach to see what we can do to further improve your office of county council. This was really productive and identified some things that are fast, easy to implement or go under the category of no brainers.
And others that are going to need to be longer term or will require some money. Going again to the bottom of the current slide, in the short term we remain barely adequate for staffing. If the board simply restores the 1.0 FTE attorney position that became gapped after Dennis Marshall retired, I became county council and the musical chairs ended with Ms. Van Molen moving from chief deputy to chief assistant. So right now we've decided to gap the chief deputy position and that is the position I'm sacrificing under the 1. 0 FTE to balance our budget.
If you can provide more funding than just restoring that 1.0 position, which I would plan to fill with an entry-level attorney because it's cheaper for us and we're trying to flatten our management approach In any event if you can provide more funding than just at one point opposition Whether it's this coming year or even in the year after that those additional funds would help us to move more quickly away from inefficient use of heavy overtime, which is the only way right now that we deliver quality legal services at the speed that you need them.
So there's three things I'd ask you to be thinking about this year or the year after that that would help us out. The first would be adding a second 1.0 FTE attorney position which would bite into the gap that we've had since 2008 when we went down 4.4 FTE attorneys The second thing in the future would be adding $44,000 of paralegal salaries so that I could get out of the part-time employee business by taking our remaining part-time employee, a 0.6 paralegal who does great work for us but I would like to move her into 1.0 position.
Her job supports seven general fund attorneys if you divide that by .6 it's not a lot and also in order to balance our budget This year we deleted $46,000 of services and supplies. Restoring 25,000 of that or bringing back 25,00 in a future year would allow us to have a good training program for our attorneys and support staff that would make us more efficient.
Wrapping up, I understand that you have many competing priorities that the board faces again this year. If you can improve our staffing through more funds, I'd be delighted with whatever you can do. If you tell me to come back and try again next year, I understand that and I'll at least know that you heard my concerns but if funded a different priority. We're here to answer any questions that you have.
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Thank you. I'm going to go to Supervisor Wolff in just a second but first Miss Miyasato is there I'm sure it's in here. Is there a place where we have all of the requests in
one?
Three, okay so I can be looking at that while you're asking your question
and actually that was well first of all thank you Mr. Gazzone for your presentation and Your advocacy and I appreciate all the work that your department does. And thank you for doing the outreach to your employees, I think that's always as we were talking about retention of employees having that conversation is really important. But my question is on on tap 3 County Council the only Request is that one FTE position?
but it's you added a few more as you were going through so
You know not to sound Not to sound like a martyr here, but what we focused on our restoration request was the bare minimum to keep us at our present level. And the other three things that I gave you are how we move forward whether it's this next fiscal year or the fiscal year after that. So we've worked very closely with Mona and Tom on how to address The budget model really doesn't work for County Council when we surge resources and I move people around from risk funded to general fund to get the job done.
And they have worked with us on that, and part of that includes some restorations on other funds. Frankly, I'm not coming here trying to look greedy. I'm just trying to give you some options.
Yeah, and I appreciate that. It's just as you were going through the list you mentioned the paralegal from a .6 to one full time and there was a cost associated with it. It would just be helpful for me because but I think what you're saying is is that that's not as important as this one position.
I live in a triage world and what I'm telling you is that 1.0 attorney that's in tab three that keeps our snorkel barely above water if we lose that doesn't work well.
If you lose it or if you don't get if we don't
get it back. Okay. So we've been gapped for about 4 months on that position and although I get to see more of my staff on the weekends, I'd rather seem socially than at work
gotcha thank you.
Supervisor
Adam and then supervisor carball yeah, I was just going to ask the same thing so you need 0.4 paralegal and what was the other
So we gave, in addition to the 1.0 restoration at some point adding back a second 1.O entry level attorney. Second item was 44,000 to take the paralegal from 0.6 to 1.00 and third some amount of money so that we could actually have a good recurring professional training program. I'm saying 25,000.
And I think it's really important for you as our County Council to be involved in these community
Affairs and activities, so I just think that's really important to keep those relationships. And I just wanted to thank you for being there.
Thank you. I have a question too. So you're the first one in the barrel. The question I have is, I'm sure everybody has more requests than what we have on here. Are we going to have 2 sheets of what kind of everybody understands that this is what we're asking for. And then this is my hey, if you had a lot of I mean if you had some extra things here's my second level second tier things understand this is just to keep you afloat so.
I don't want to I guess what I don't want to do is I have the sheet and then I have to keep another sheet of what Mike really would like to have these ones are approved through the CEO's office or how are we going Justify all of these.
Supervisor board members, I'm chair Levin and board members. So what we provided to you are all the requests My office is not we've talked to departments about the requests and their needs We haven't sifted through to prioritize us for your board that would come after today. So these are not approved requests These were just I felt it was important for the for the department's to put forward to you The things that they believe they need I think as mr Exoni pointed out in reflection he wanted to add things to here I'm hoping that other departments So we can at the end of the 3 days update this is a need be. But these were what rose to the top when departments are putting together, but their budget requests. OK, so what I would like
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The priority of what items you feel most important. I understand the 130 is absolutely critical.
Absolutely, we'll do that and I will say that this fairly fast moving budget train which I tried to pay attention to did not coincide with me finishing my 20 minute check ins with all of my employees which just occurred about a week ago so than I was a month ago when I submitted just one item.
Okay, very good and just historically if I'm trying to remember we have wasn't there request? I think last year two years ago for two and we funded one
actually there was a request last year. We went in with two when there was a back-and-forth discussion about whether that was recurring funding or a mix of recurring in one time or whether there were Some accounting issues that would allow it not to be recurring funding. But we hired those two people. Okay, Mr. Alvarez?
Yes, Chair Lavenino. So there were two positions that were added last year and I think what Mr. Gazzone was saying is when Dennis Marshall left, that position wasn't backfilled so they added two and now their net down to plus one.
Okay. And I promised not to break into song to describe two steps forward and one step back.
Please don't, Supervisor Farr and then Supervisor Carball.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr Gazzone for your presentation and I want to thank you and all the members of your staff for all the incredible work you do day in and day out throughout the year. I think that because of the rhythm of the Board of Supervisors meetings unfortunately it requires that your staff work on weekends because we don't get our binders until Thursday or Friday We go over them on the weekend, and I know I for one unfortunately have sent some emails on Sundays which are promptly answered. So I'm sorry that the rhythm of the board's work requires that but you guys are always there and up to the challenge. And I really, really appreciate that. And I think that when I go back to our budget workshop where we talked about our priorities for funding, I think at the top of the list was reduction of risk and cost.
And I think that the statistics that we have here certainly prove that your department goes a long way towards reducing risk. And cost. So I personally am going to be looking quite favorably on this one restoration, and I'll be anxious to see the complete list that we get that Ms. Miyasato talked about. Thank you Mr. Chair.
Thank you Supervisor Farr. Since I don't often get to talk with you in open session, I'll say that we do receive a lot of requests over the weekend from supervisors and I welcome them because although we're fairly adept at moving quickly on Tuesday morning, I'd much rather know Saturday or Sunday We staff it, we get the answer out. If we need an attorney-client memo to the entire board, we get it out and don't hand it to you Tuesday morning so please keep those coming.
Supervisor Carpall? Thank you, I'm one of those that called you over the weekend Mike, so I really appreciate your department's good work. What I would be really interested in seeing is over the past five or six years for example. How much money have we spent for outside counsel? In what subject areas have we reflected weaknesses in terms of our ability to address?
Because I think that paints a clear picture of how much money we're spending to go to outside counsel. And how we might be able to better spend money capitalizing by having the right force of attorneys in your department. And then the subject areas that maybe we traditionally fall short on, whether it's because of lack of expertise, whether it's because a workload.
I think that analysis will be very insightful to the board If we traditionally are spending $500,000 for example and it's in areas that we can anticipate. Well I would rather spend that internally and have our lawyers ready to not only address those little subject areas but do more other type of work throughout the year. It just makes sense. It's prudent. So I am very interested in understanding that picture to see how we might be able to meet your request for restoration.
And maybe your broader requests for restorations, but I would really want to understand that picture.
We'll, we'll bring that back to you. And I will say that one of the two attorneys that we hired after the board's direction last summer was brought in specifically so we can lower our outside counsel usage. We hired somebody from a hardcore litigation firm who is doing good work for us. You'll see more of her and the goal there is we think we can do it cheaper faster in house and I want that resource. So that's why we use one of those two positions to hire somebody to cut down on outside council usage
Great. And lastly, I understand CEO Miyasato that based on the feedback we give you if we give you uncertain issues or not You're going to come back to us for our budget deliberations in June with your recommendations of what you think is essential that we fund and the rest obviously without a recommendation up to the board whether we want Delve into other issues or not, but you're going to give us your recommendation in the near future.
Chair board members that's correct. Thank
you.
Supervisor Adam Yeah, I just want to confess that I'm one of those weekend clients as well. And I always appreciate the prompt responses. This doesn't seem like I got an hour or two that's a maximum time for response from you guys. So you guys do a fantastic job and I've dealt with a lot of attorneys. You guys are by far...
Salute says he gets five minute response but that's okay. His answers are a lot easier.
Yeah, that's right Consider the content anyway You know in addition to the outside council expense I would like to have some information on the overtime expense as well Because we got to be racking up a pretty good bill and it might pay us to have a couple more staffers to lower that overtime
So so we'll come back with the outside counsel as I mentioned, but the overtime I can give you rough numbers But these are overtime exempt attorneys. We pay them nothing for their hours over 40
Yeah, well, you know you can't work people All weekend every weekend, I mean we are I mean, I know we are so what's what's the overtime? Do you know what the overtime is?
We went through and that's how we calculated at 59% but I'll come back with the actual number of overtime hours. I think in past years we did a poor job of of accounting for the time over 80 hours of pay period. People just wrote the 80, waved their hands and ran away. And I've asked people over the past six months so we could do this and then again about two weeks ago saying religiously we need to record this so we keep track of how many thousand hours of overtime exempt work we're doing.
Thank you.
All right thank you very much. I thought of a lot of things coming down here. I did not think today, I would be getting a Paula Abdul reference from Mr. Mike Gazzone so that's good. You've set the bar very high for us. So in our county council's wisdom as well, you know, I think there was a question about whether or not we should move forward with the rest of our agenda and we still have public comment but We do have here that there is a note that all times That we had our estimated for planning purposes and items could be heard earlier so that was good job Mike both mikes.
So with that I think we do have public comment on the last three do we have any request to speak
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Mister Caldwell.
Chairman Lavagnino members of the board Amanda Caldwell representing Colab. For instance, I'm going to give you an example of something that I don't expect Your CAO to bring this up, but we do expect your board to bring this up. One of your objectives is to work with local business partners to enhance and I want to emphasize the word enhance and develop economic development strategies.
Well, as you know right now there's a group of people circulating a petition to ban fracking in the county. Now there isn't any fracking going on in the county but there is steam injection. It would be really great if your board were, if your board especially unanimous board were to issue a statement that you don't support people in the community rewriting dozens of pages of county land use ordinances that would decimate a significant part A significant part of the North County economy.
You guys could help squash this thing in its infancy before it gets on the ballot. This is something you should be talking about because it's current and it's extremely important. I'm going to pick on the CEO's office just a little bit, but all the departments do this we absolutely hate Percentages as performance measures, percentages don't tell you diddly squat.
You have to have hard numbers. It's okay to give a percentage in terms of increase but you need a hard number to go with it and for instance how many workers comp claims we used to have this in the budget book by department? How many workers comp claims by department have been filed? How many of them had been resolved and what did it cost the county? EEO complaints, we spend a lot of money on EEO. We've got a percentage there but we don't know if you had two complaints all year or 20 and if you had 20 what's the problem?
With regard to county council's issue perfect example in a sense positive spin. They put a few citations in there, well we saved this amount of money and we won this one and we reduced the cost. But they didn't list a single thing that an area where they failed. They didn't list a single case where the county took it in the shorts. This is supposed to be a truth telling revelatory insight once a year so the citizenry can see how well are you guys spending our money?
And there wasn't any issues there on cost. I'm going to give you one last example, and this gets back to enhancing. I've done some work with Vandenberg Air Force Base. We're competing not just with other states, we're competing with other nations and Even floatation type devices where they're launching missiles off of structures in the sea to pay no taxes. So county council can come in here and say, hey we're going after this big chunk of money from United Launch.
Well California's got one of the most punitive taxes for space exploration, space launches. Privatization, etc., etc. And to the degree that you're aggressive when there is a dispute, you might win that money this year and we might lose those jobs forever. And this is the kind of stuff that your board needs to be discussing. How aggressive are we going to be in interpreting tax laws In this region? Especially on Vandenberg Air Force Base when again they could be going elsewhere. Thank you all right thank you very much
that moves us to the second round of departmental budgets community resources and public facilities yes so the first one out of that group is the Ag Commissioner Miss Miyasato did you want to lead it off are we gonna go right to miss Fisher okay Good morning. You're supposed to say good morning.
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Good morning, Chair and members of the Board. I'm pleased to present the Agriculture Department's Operating Budget for FY 14-15. The recommended FY14-15 operating budget is approximately $4.7 million, which includes $1.6 million of general fund and will sustain 33 FTEs. I am pleased to share with your board that our operating budget does not include the use of one time funding and has no service level reductions.
Sources of funding, 43% of the department's revenue is provided by state and federal aid. 34% comes from County General Fund, 12 1⁄2% from fees for services, and 9% from licenses and permits. The graph of the five-year summary of the general fund contribution Shows a slight increase in fiscal year 13-14. This was due to the inclusion of 153,000 of ongoing funding for the UC Cooperative Extension contract which helps to support the 4-H Master Gardeners and Farm Advisor programs.
The five year summary of the use of one time funds has been steadily decreasing over time The graph shows in fiscal year 13-14 a one time use of $70,000 for the purchase of new test equipment for weights and measure programs. The staffing summary chart illustrates the slow recovery from a severe staffing shortage in fiscal year 10-11. 5.9 FTE positions have been restored since then which brings the department's total to 33 for fiscal year 14-15 which includes 13 biologist positions.
Fiscal year 13-14 anticipated accomplishments. By converting from an in-house credit card based billing system for phytosanitary certificates to a free online electronic transfer billing system maintained by the USDA, the department has seen a significant cost savings by eliminating over 9000 credit card transactions annually. Certain staff members have been appointed to several statewide technical advisory committees in the area of pesticide use enforcement These committees are developing online data systems that will be used by all agricultural departments throughout California, in addition to the State Department of Pesticide Regulation.
Staff coordinated and participated in several invasive weed eradication projects including a rundo removal along the San Ynez River and Rincon Creek plus the removal of the invasive Japanese daughter in Lompoc. The department partnered with the California Department of Food and Agriculture to successfully eradicate light brown apple moth from Goleta in Santa Maria, and to eradicate Asian citrus psyllid in several communities throughout the county.
Staff also detected a new disease to the county in several commercial flower producing operations, and worked with USDA and CDFA to develop a long-term strategy for addressing this new invasive pest. Part of our general fund contribution now provides ongoing financial support for the UC Cooperative Extension. In addition, the department contributes over $8,000 a year of in-kind support for UC programs and activities.
Staff met with several county departments to help identify what integrated pest management resources also known as IPM are available and to share what practices each department has implemented. Everyone agreed to start with a small pilot project to incorporate IPM into their decision making processes. The group will continue to share IPM items for interest in the future.
A consulting firm was hired to produce an economic impact report that quantified agricultural contributions to the county's economy. The report documented that the total contributions from agriculture is in the amount of $2.8 billion. It far exceeds the Farmgate value of products that appears in the department's annual crop report. Agriculture also provides more than 25,000 jobs in Santa Barbara County.
Our Weights and Measures Division added a new database And it was implemented to assist with processing 100% of our permanent registration fees and allowing inspectors to enter reports in the field. This has resulted in a 25% cost savings for the division. The purchase of new testing equipment for Weights & Measures Program has provided a safer, more efficient way to test commercial devices.
A working partnership was facilitated with the district attorney's office. The division submitted two consumer protection cases for the first time One involving a large business retail chain, which resulted in a misdemeanor settlement. The other case is pending. The division recovered costs for investigating the cases. Weights and Measures staff hosted numerous compliance hearings with several retail businesses and farmers market managers.
Outreach materials were provided for accurate price and quantity verification requirements and commercial device regulations. The division also implemented a proactive package inspection service for retail and wholesale businesses to verify proper labeling and quantity statements. Fiscal 1415 department objectives. Administrative staff will assume primary responsibility for data entry and updating the department's databases. This will provide better customer service by training agricultural businesses in the use of two online systems, for pesticide reporting and phytosanitary certificates.
The trainings will allow agricultural businesses to take advantage of more efficient technologies while allowing licensed inspectors and biologists to spend time on mandated programs. A compliance-based education and outreach program will be developed for pesticide and pest prevention programs. Staff will continue to look for opportunities to partner with other county departments with regard to the control of specific noxious weeds on county maintained property.
Invasive pests continue to be the number one threat to the local agricultural industry in the environment. We will continue to provide local support for federal and state pest eradication projects The Weights and Measures Division has set a goal to inspect 100% of the businesses that use price lookup systems, commonly known as scanners. We would also like to expand our package inspection services and continue to work with the district attorney when appropriate.
In fiscal year 15-16 staff will continue to advocate for the use of efficient online reporting systems. Other objectives include an improvement with the compliance rate of pesticide inspections and pricing accuracy in stores, and we'll continue to adjust our programs to maximize successes in those areas. Performance measures consists of issuing 100% of phytosanitary certificates to be error-free. Currently, we have a 99% accuracy rate for the 9200 certificates we issue every year.
For pesticide inspections, we currently have an 80% compliance rate The goal of the compliance-based training program is to increase the compliance rate by relying more on training programs for employers and applicators. In our weights and measures programs, our goal is to return to inspecting 100% of the commercial weighing and measuring devices now that the department has adequate staffing.
In our new pricing accuracy program with the use of our inspections and the compliance hearings, our goal is to see pricing accuracy improve throughout the county. I am very pleased to share with your board today the Agriculture Department has no service level reductions for fiscal year 14-15. To increase efficiencies in all our programs, we will continue to advocate and support our customers to use online resources.
Our updated weights and measures testing equipment will allow staff to test commercial devices safely and efficiently. We will continue to provide input for our state and federal agencies with regards to the effectiveness of regulations, and we will continue to take advantage of new technology for cost-saving benefits to the department and our customers. Key challenges and emerging issues that are on the horizon include the increasing threat of exotic and invasive pests.
As the global economy continues to become more encompassing, the threat of new invasive pests continue to grow. The public will have an ever-increasing role with assisting state and local agencies with stopping the spread of invasive pests. Land use practices of allowing non agricultural uses to commingle with farming operations cause continual conflicts resulting in a steady erosion of the agricultural industry, in addition to the demanding workload for the department staff.
In 2012, staff devoted over 2,000 hours at a cost of $119,000 to investigate and attempt to mitigate complaints from non-farm residents about adjacent farming operations. New pesticide laws and regulations have resulted in an increasing workload for county staff with new regards to new enforcement restrictions for pest control businesses and applicators Impacts from the drought that California is currently experiencing have impaired strawberry growers in other counties, which will displace approximately 2,300 acres. The Santa Maria Valley may experience an increase in strawberry acreage, which will result in a demand for services for the fumigation permitting process.
New technology that is now available commercially creates a challenge to weights and measures inspectors. The State Department of Measurement Standards has yet to develop testing procedures for the new devices. Therefore, the accuracy of the new devices has yet to be determined. Finally with the continued success of agriculture in Santa Barbara County comes an ever-increasing demand for our services.
In summary our mission includes protecting the local agriculture and the environment from invasive pests by providing the first line of defense We protect public safety, the environment and farm labor from pesticide exposure. In addition to protecting consumers and creating an equitable marketplace for local businesses. We will continue to implement innovative creative solutions to manage the new challenges that the future holds.
That concludes our presentation we'd be happy to answer any questions.
Thank you very much. Bring it to the board Supervisor Farr
Thank you Mr. Chair, thank you Ms. Fisher. I wanted to ask you on your anticipated accomplishments. You talked about supporting UC Cooperative Extension's research and educational goals but you're not asking for any expansion so the concern that they have raised about needing a little extra money that would come as an outside agency request then?
Chair Supervisor Farr, yes. Correct.
All right thank you and then I just didn't know whether you wanted to comment at all as far as the key challenges and emerging issues your work with the drought committee because I know that what you're doing is a big part of trying to manage what's happening here with the drought
Chair Supervisor Fari, yes what we're seeing so far from our agricultural producers as far as impacts to the drought is those operators on the south coast that rely on the Kachuma Reservoir as resources. Those are permanent infrastructures like avocados and lemons and And they do require an ongoing source of irrigation. Our growers are indeed doing their part to conserve water.
They are providing mulching on the ground, they use high efficiency irrigation systems in place and they're doing all that they can to cut back on our water usage.
Okay, thank you. And then just my last comment is I just read where a pest that your department has been really trying to work to prevent the spread of the Asian citrus psyllid, if I'm saying that right, has now been found in San Luis Obispo County?
Chair, Supervisor Farr, that is correct. They found a single detection in Arroyo Grande.
Okay, so is that something then when it crosses counties that your department would be talking with the Ag Commissioner in San Luis Obispo County as far as our experience and to assist them in that way?
I have been already on the phone with the Ag Commissioner up there in San Luis Obispo going over what we've been through recently.
Thank
you.
Thank you Mr. Chair.
Supervisor Wolff.
Thank you Mr. Chair just a few comments and then questions first of all You know, Miss Fisher your department is just a shining star in my mind. I think you've done a terrific job. I'm really glad that we funded that biologist position and as you mentioned this is one of our biggest industries if not the biggest industry in our county so thank you for doing what you're doing and obviously your staff has been recognized for their abilities too so way to go team.
You mentioned something about $8,000 in in-kind contribution to UC. I missed that. If you can explain that?
Chair Supervisor Wolff, we provide additional assistance whenever they have a workshop for our growers or a meeting for our growers by providing admin support All day for at the sign in table to make sure we're keeping track of who you know registered for the class. Staff also prevent or prepare PowerPoint presentation and give presentations at the different workshops on pesticide.
Safety, I myself recently was at a very large meeting a couple weeks ago providing a presentation of the seriousness of invasive pests. So all that combined are at a cost to the department but it totaled about $8000. But those are just some of the examples and other ways that we support the program here in the county.
Okay, well thank you for that. The other issue I just wanted to talk about was the Citrus ciliate issue that we had in Goleta and You know there were some Issues in in that initially and I think you and your team Took care of it you worked with with a community but one of the things that came out of that was It seemed that they wanted to have more interaction with your department on We're going to be talking about different ways in which they might be able to protect their own backyard citrus trees.
Is that something your department is working on? Are you working through UCSB Cooperative Extension or are you folks doing that on your own?
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Chair Supervisor Wolf actually the citrus industry provides funding for a contractor to develop a. Protect you know the county from Asian citrus salad. We've they came in with their outreach campaign in the summer and they did several public service announcements. They put, you know inserts in the newspapers to do all that they can to spread the word to our local residents of what they can do. And recently with this year's detections, I've had them come back and we've had a grower meeting and right now as we speak they are out in the communities spreading information to our residents on what they can do and how to look at their tree and if they find a detection that they think is Agent Citrus Psyllid who do you contact? And what their options are right now so A lot of work right now going on with doing all that we can with working with the master gardeners.
We're gonna be developing another outreach for residents on what they can do to be on the watch and do their part in protecting the citrus here in the county, so.
And I think one of the main issues was having the residents have options of what to use. And that's part of
that. Chair Supervisor Wolfe, yes. Actually this is the first time with the state when they come in and they request to come in and treat the tree. I've asked that if they decline that they just not walk away and do nothing. That they give other alternative treatment options but they are now doing that for the first time. Okay thank you.
Miss Fisher, I have a question about process. How do we get the concerns with ag being $2.8 billion in our county and 25,000 jobs? How do we get the concerns from our local growers to the folks that are doing the regulating through DPR and those... Do you get asked to attend those meetings? With DPR when people are making these... Should this be going through our ledge committee I just feel like we're kind of on the outside of this and people are making decisions, policy decisions that are affecting our growers. And I just feel like we're on the outside of it.
Are you the point of contact of that or how explain to me how that process works?
Chair, recently the new regulations that we're experiencing are done with the changes to the labels of certain materials specifically the fumigants. And the changes to the label is law and that comes through Environmental Protection Agency. There are public comment periods during that development but once they're implemented that's something as far as our department that we are to implement locally That's been the biggest change that we're finding with regulations in our workload is the new fumigation label changes that took place in 2012. But when it comes to regulations, that is something that ag commissioners do have the opportunity to work with the Department of Pesticide Regulation is to provide them feedbacks where on different technical advisory committees that I mentioned that we provide the local perspective if you were to implement this regulation this is what would happen locally what works and doesn't work so we do indeed have an opportunity My staff is very involved with that process on these different committees.
Great. Yeah, and I would just suggest that if you see anything I'm going to go ahead and ask for a motion. Legislative the legislatively that you would think we would like to weigh in definitely so if you see anything on the horizon that. You're probably the first one to hear about it that. Definitely bring it before us at least get into our alleged committee so that we can.
We have our voice heard. I think Santa Barbara It's important to us
chair. Thank you. That's very good to know, okay
All right Any other questions for our AG commissioner? Are we good? Thank you very much.
Thank you very much
That takes us to Mr. Parker and community services will give you a chance to Supervisor Adam
mr. Chair just for agenda management are we planning on playing through I And having lunch at noon and breaking on all of these different departments. And then having our outside organizations and non-county agencies request heard whenever we get
there. That was kind of the plan, I think that would work us out just about right if we did noon? If we get through this block? Yeah yeah, whenever it breaks naturally. We'll do this block and then we'll hit launch and come back for outside agencies. Okay good
deal thank you.
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Morning, Mr Parker. Good morning chair Lavinino and members of the board. My name is Herman Parker director of community services and I'm here with Carrie Behrman our CFO for the department. We're here to present to you the 2014 15 budget for the community services department. The proposed operating budget for community services is 21.4 million 2.6 million for capital projects on a general fund contribution of 7.7 million The budget contains 95.9 FTE, one-time use of $574,000 from fund balance, service level reductions of $218,000 and we are requesting departmental expansions of $696,000 and $938,000 for annual maintenance renewal funding.
There are several capital projects that we will complete in the upcoming fiscal year and they include our Royal Borough Restroom relocation project, the new restroom and shower facility at Live Oak Campgrounds. The installation of a water line at Halama Beach, design of affordable overnight accommodations at Halama Beach, replacement of a water line at a Royal Borough beach, replacement of RV concrete pads at Kachuma Lake, and community development grant funding for nine capital projects countywide.
The Community Services Department is funded through various sources. The largest funding sources are related to charges for services, which include park user fees and day use fees. Also intergovernmental funds from sources such as Housing and Urban Development Department federal funds, and also the Bureau of Reclamation play a big part in our budgeting. This slide illustrates the department's use of general fund to balance the department budget over the past five years. The general fund contribution is proposed to decrease by approximately $1 million, and this is primarily due to the transfer of Human Services Commission funding to the county executive office.
The following slide illustrates the historical use of general fund contribution within the three divisions of the department Housing and Community Development, you can see depicted in the darker brown. And then Parks and Community Services Department Administration and Libraries. The data shown in this slide illustrates the increased use of one-time funding in our Housing and Community Development Division.
These funds have been necessary to offset the ongoing operational costs of the division, and I'll speak to that a little bit more later. The recommended budget includes staff levels that are below previous year allocations. This year staffing levels are identified at 95.9 FTE. As we conclude fiscal year 2013-14, the Community Services Department has made progress on several projects and services.
We will have completed the Halama Beach paving project, opened the Franklin Trail for public use Renovated the steps at Rincon Beach, established a draft of the San Marcos Preserve Management Plan. Removed a remnant asphalt road at Guadalupe Dunes and hosted the ninth annual countywide art symposium. In addition we have implemented new software programming for our federally funded application process.
We have completed timely expenditures of community development block grant funds Developed new policies and procedures for the home program, conducted community-wide trainings for new homeless management software systems. And completed several affordable housing home projects which have added an additional 129 new units. And secured over $5 million in state funding to expand the Empower Program.
As we approach the new fiscal year, the department has identified several objectives including continuing to improve monitoring of our federal programs, advancing our technologies to manage our camping facilities, beginning the environmental process for Waller Park which currently has a master plan and focusing on capital and deferred maintenance improvements at various park sites.
We will also update our Park and Policies Procedure Manual, enhance countywide safety inspections at our parks and open space areas, continue to pursue funding and contracts to enhance the Empower Program, and explore renewal options for Urban County and Home Consortium partnerships. And in addition improve loan management processes. The following two slides identify key measurements the department will review at scheduled basis throughout the year.
Our affordable housing units produced, the number of affordable housing units monitored and that varies from year to year, library material circulation also our park reservations that are booked online. We'll also be monitoring percentage of occupancy at our camping parks during the winter months. Our hope is to increase those numbers Park visitorship, art exhibits and opportunities that we provide. And also energy savings from our Empower program.
This slide represents the financial changes that are the cause of the department having service level reductions. With regards to parks, our expenses Which includes salaries, utilities and supplies are outpacing our ability to increase revenues and fees. And still remain marketable In our Housing and Community Development Division, federal funding does not provide adequate administrative funding to support the cost of administering our current programs.
Also over time the department has seen an increase in cost allocation plans charges which with limited federal resources or limited funding to cover the cost and the cost of administering these programs. Proposed service level reductions include elimination of 1.67 FTE, these positions are extra help rangers and will result in less facility supervision and a slower response time to maintenance repair and customer service needs.
Reductions to our shelter service funding will substantially reduce the amount of bed nights provided county wide to three shelter providers. Efficiencies identified for the upcoming fiscal year. We would like to improve the Iron Ranger and cash handling processes at our park sites, implement a counts receivable system and also we want to invest in our staff by providing additional training and workshops to improve their skills.
Challenges for the year include risk of failing infrastructure at our county park systems Appropriate staffing levels to meet service level delivery requirements and fluctuations in federal funding and regulatory agreements. Also, drought issues and water level issues will have an impact on our camping revenues as we approach the new year at Cochuma Lake. Our department is requesting enhancements to our budget.
They include funding for staff to complete a five-year consolidated plan in our housing division And six positions are requested. They include a cost analyst to focus on minimizing risk in our housing division. On April 1st, your board approved an additional housing specialist to help us with support for our homeless services programs. The department is also requesting an additional housing specialists to help with our community development block grant funded programs.
The department is also in need of an information systems specialist or technician to communicate our information online and make sure that our communications online to the public are up to par. We're also requesting an administrative office professional to provide office and customer support for our parks and other departmental functions, a park ranger to help us with 24-7 operations at Halama Beach And also annual maintenance renewal funding of $938,000 which will assist the department in maintaining our park infrastructure.
In conclusion I would like to thank the board. I'd also like to thank the management and staff for the Community Services Department for all of their hard work commitment and effort through this past year we look forward to providing great quality services as we enter into the new fiscal year. And that concludes staff's presentation. We'll be happy answer any questions the board may have.
All right very good supervisor far.
Thank you Mister chair, thank you Mister Parker for your presentation I just had a couple of comments and questions I think the first thing I want to highlight is that you know the county during economic downturn more and more Used funds that were available not just to the county, but to outside groups and agencies because of our needs. So I'm thinking specifically of CDBG and CREF money. And as we know from the recent hearing we had on CREF your department got a lot of that money for much needed project for Halama restrooms, I believe.
But I think it's important to remember that outside organizations rely on the ability to compete for these funds as well. So, I think that just highlights the need for the funds for maintenance of our facilities which leads me to my next question. As part of your expansion request you have the $935,000 I think it is. For annual maintenance so how is that different than the figure that we're going to get from a consultant study for deferred maintenance.
Supervisor for chair members of the board- we are waiting to get that report finalized report from our consultants and- this number may tie into that number or play some role in Once we have that final report, we'll be able to better refine that number and know exactly what it will be. But-
Okay, it looks
like- Mr. Alvarez? Yes, Supervisor Farr. So we have preliminary information from the consultant. We'll be presenting that on Wednesday. They did identify amounts for general services and for the parks. And the number that's reflected in here is based on their information both for parks and for general services.
Okay, so this 935,000 should be what we're seeing from the report. That you would, that this department would need on an annual basis to keep up the maintenance of all the facilities?
That's correct.
Okay, thank you. It's very helpful. Mr Parker when you talked about various costs going up you mentioned utilities and I had to think it was a little ironic that your department manages the Empower program which is doing really well. But I'm just wondering whether there has been a look at how we might be able to implement wind and solar projects, particularly out in some of our parks, to help offset those utility fees. And maybe that falls into the whole general services sustainability plan as well. But it seems to me that a lot of our facilities could really benefit from some Applications and so have you considered that in some of your planning
supervisor for chair members of the board? Yes, we haven't appreciate the comment. We Can work very closely with General Services as we approach the new fiscal year and look at ways in which we can Minimize those costs, those utility costs. Over the past couple of years we have implemented some internal programs. We've updated some of our irrigation systems at a couple of our parks to do some water conservation efforts. We put in some smart irrigation systems to save in those areas and will continue to look at those areas as we move forward and work very closely with general services to do that.
Okay, well I hope that we'll be really looking for those grant opportunities as they come along that we could utilize for these facilities. And my last question has to do with another expansion request for 1FTE to restore an AOP position and you said it's to assist in making reservations for group and day use areas. I know that we went through quite a process to institute an online reservation program for our camping facilities so I'm just wondering about How we might be able to use more online reservation techniques and then minimize the need for additional staffing. I realize you're still going to need some people to interface with the public, but maybe we could be looking at a larger online reservation system. I'd appreciate your comments on that.
Supervisor Farr, Chair and Board. That is something that we will consider to continue to review and analyze our request for this position as we have seen just a need for some type of front counter person to interface with the public. We get people that walk into the office often. We have changes that do have to be made sometime to reservations that are taken online.
There are refund issues that come up and so our request is to help us offset some of those needs in our office operations.
Okay, thank you. And maybe this is too difficult but I noticed in the general services budget that they're looking at a position to help with the reservations of the Veterans Hall buildings so CEO Miyasato, I don't know if there's a way that we could be looking at how this works in the big picture for the members of the public wanting to reserve county facilities whatever those are And having some better integrated online reservation system. Those are my questions and comments, thank you Mr Chair.
Thank you, Mr.
Chair. Ms. Miyasato have we looked at what if any savings we have seen by combining these two departments or not?
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Chair, Supervisors I think one of the savings I know for sure was the savings of a department head position. Beyond that I'm not clear we can get that information for you.
It was, can you just repeat what
you said? The one savings I know is the savings of having one less department head position in the county. Other than that, I'm not sure if there were other budgeted savings.
Okay well then because I looked at the budget overview on page D12 and it does appear that the FTEs have increased from 87.46 to 95.98 and yet it seems that in HCD you've only, you have 10 folks that are working in that department and from what I am understanding from what you're saying Mr. Parker is that you need more help in that department?
Supervisor Wolf, Chair and members of the board. In my time here with the department what I've noticed is that there appears to be a need for additional staff to help us with these federally funded programs. We were very grateful and thankful to get a monitor last year that will help us in monitoring some Supervisors. Yes, they are okay and I know
You know, the issue of CSA 3 is coming up again. And so I know that we're going to be scheduling a meeting with you and Mr. Geist to go over the allocation of funding for CSA3. The other question I have on the budget overview is that just in the big picture it appears that from the actuals from 2012-13 Your budget was about 29.5 million and the recommended for the upcoming year is 26, almost 27 million. So you're seeing a reduction in your budget by approximately $2 million.
Supervisor Wolf, members of the board. There's a reduction some of that is attributable to the Human Services Commission being transferred out of Community Services and over to the CEO office there are funds these are capital funds that are moving between being pulled down and then expended There are grant funds that are being expended. That's the primary makeup of what that difference is, transfers of funds for grants and programs that have been expended et cetera.
Okay I guess when we have our final budget come to us in June it would be good to footnote some of those things why there is such a difference in this department and where some of those funds have gone. All right thank you.
Supervisor Carbajal? Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mona, I don't know if it's maybe asking too much or to be part of our budget discussions that we're going to be having in June. If it is, I certainly understand but I think it is time that we examine if the most effectiveness Financial effectiveness, organizational effectiveness if we achieved what we wanted to achieve with our community services department.
Because if we didn't I have I continue to hear an advocacy from a number of constituents that really wish that we, unless we've achieved significant benefits, that we really go back to examining the best configuration for this department and the sub-departments that we put underneath it. Parks in particular. Again, I don't know if it's it can be done by June or If it's an exercise thereafter. I don't even know my colleagues are supportive of that But I really think that it would be worthwhile to examine that I Think we have a bunch of great staff Mr. Parker and all the assistant department heads in that department but I think we do need to look at did we achieve what we wanted to and if is there a better way of doing it and
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Ms. Miyasato?
Chair, Supervisors, Assistant CEO Renee Ball and I have been talking a lot about some of the needs and issues in parks and in HCD and that was going to be a summer project so we would like to get through this budget and maybe have a more thorough review with the department in looking at some of the structural issues on financing and programs this summer.
Mister chair just to conclude thank you I that's helpful to me and again, I think it it goes to span a control as well. In light of the challenges we've had with hcd and again what is the most effective organizational structure for our for this department in the in the various departments so thank you I appreciate that and that satisfactory to me.
Mister Parker just want to say that the I think you've hit on the performance measures that are key I think this is great. I had no idea we had this many individual visitors coming to our camping sites and the fact that they think the shows also that our reservations online booking system is just exploding which is great to know where we prioritize our finances, the one I would like to see in here.
Added eventually is what are vacancy rate is it some of you I think you hit on something else here when it comes to the increases in cost for salaries and And I think that's something we need to look at as far as a we can't just continually go back to the public and hammer them for additional fees. We've got to stay within the market so that we don't price ourself out, you know it's not their responsibility for us to keep our costs in line. It's you know we definitely have to be out there competing.
And lastly see if I can read my notes here. I'd also like to see You know some of these other ideas. I'd kind of like to see not so much in the budget but I know you've got other ideas or for I just want to kind of support you and your ideas of additional revenue sources that are out there that we need to can just keep an open mind You know, we live in a really great County where people like to get out and do things. And I think there's an area in there where you know what we do like to keep some services free and open everybody. There's also point out there that we can capitalize on on some of that and see some increased revenue so that the experience is even better for people who want to come enjoy our parks.
So I think did a great job. I really like performance measures that are in here and I think This is kind of what I think other people are talking about. They're not fluff, it's things that can actually help us make financial decisions and prioritize. Supervisor Wolf?
Thank you, I just wanted to follow up on that and and I failed to mention my appreciation to you and your staff for Working with P&D in particular and the CEO's office on Goleta Beach And moving us forward on that really difficult project. And I know you mentioned a Royal Borough but I you know, I think And maybe your staff can enlighten us, but the funds that we get from that concession at Arroyo Borough and also from Goleta Beach are significant. I want to say maybe three quarters of a million dollars.
You can probably give us more specific numbers. But as we talk about revenue generators and how we help businesses I think so much of what we do is not necessarily, we could bring in new businesses and that's a good thing. But it's also ensuring that the businesses that we have, that we are responsive to their needs. And I think the folks from your department who are on the ground and working with those vendors do an amazing job in being responsive to the needs of the concessionaires. So could you just tell us what those two concessions bring in?
Supervisor Wolf, members of the board I'd be happy to. At Arroyo Borough that particular restaurant we are bringing in somewhere around $530,000 annually over at Goleta Beach that one brings in about a quarter of a million dollars annually. That helps us offset our operations for parks.
Thank you.
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Can you tell me what's going on with Rice Ranch Park these days? Are we funded by the developer now or are
we on our own? Supervisor Adelman, members of the board. This fiscal year that is approaching will be fine at Rice Ranch, the Orchid Community Park. As you remember, we brought forward an item that asked the board to allow us to spend some additional funding from our park operations budget to maintain that park. We're going to continue to do that in the upcoming fiscal year.
The developer is going to be assisting in this upcoming fiscal year and providing the landscape maintenance services for it so that will get us through the upcoming year.
Okay, good deal. So it's in the budget.
It is
in the budget.
Yes, sir. Thank you.
All right. Very good. Thank you Mr Parker and your whole team appreciate it. We're going to power through and do 2 more and then we will break for lunch so next step is planning development doctor Russell Do you want to do it before these two? Thank you. Good morning Mr.
Chair and Supervisors.
Dr. Russell, I think we might take things a little bit out of order. We have a request from the only public speaker commenter he'd like to go before and then take off so Mr. Allen.
Chairman Lavinino, members of the board we do have an additional public comment speaker for who would like to comment on planning and developments budget and maybe she can let us know whether she just want to go now or wait until after the presentation
Okay, so Mr. Caldwell
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on these four you'll be given five minutes. Thank you and Chairman Lavinino I appreciate your generosity. One of the complaints about the way this is set up and as you know I've been doing this for a long number of time. For instance you just had Herman Parker's department here. You all had the opportunity to ask him questions make comments things like that but by the time the public comes up he's gone They're gone.
At one time, the public used to come up after each budget section so that we could have an interface with you and if maybe if we came up with one good idea every once in a while, you might say hey that's a good idea Mr. Parker would you do this that or the other? But the way this happens every time by the time the public comes up the first they'll all maybe the last one like in this particular section Maybe public works would still be in the room, but the other three would be gone.
And then typically we get three minutes to cover four departments which means less than one minute per department which is just irrelevant. But anyway I thank you for your generosity time-wise today. Well just as
an update, you just burned a minute.
It's all right, I understand that. But it needed to be said. With regard to the Ag Commissioner, I went to the AAC meeting last week and there are people that are refusing to have their trees in their backyard sprayed for this Asian citrus psyllid. Their tree's gonna die but worse than that by them not allowing their tree to be treated they may kill citrus in the region.
This is something that your board needs to address as community leaders. You need to, you know this is something that you need to talk to the city councils and other areas too and send out stuff urging people to take care of this disease before it wipes out citrus in our region. With regard to community services Supervisor Wolf I appreciate you asking that question where are the savings? I wish what you would do right now is ask staff to go back And get the staff report when they consolidated those departments and find out exactly what they told you they would save over time. Because I remember with you, they promised we're going to save all sorts of money.
Let's pull up the report and let's check the facts with regard to Empower SBC 300 homes. Less than 10% of the people that are making an inquiry or signing up, and yes those 300 homes save 30% on their energy bills. But what does that really add up to? What's the cost per energy unit saved? When people in business or in their homes they have to do that math, why isn't that math As part of this budget to see whether again what you're supposed to be doing here. You're supposed to look at it at this either during the year during this process and power SBC 300 homes thus far today, how many homes per month? How many staff people do we have assigned to it? How much energy is actually being saved? Is this an exercise in futility?
Is it just feel good stuff because of our concern for global warming? My last point here, and I'm going to just throw in Public Works P&D flood control. Your board is not in a crises mode with regard to this drought. I don't see any panic on your faces. There's panic out in the community. There is sheer utter panic. I've talked to Supervisor Carball, I've talked to the few remaining farmers in Montecito.
They think they're going to get wiped out because they're getting their water cut more than anybody else is getting their water cut. They're fearing bankruptcy. Montecito's gonna be one of the worst, Goleta's not far behind, Santa Barbara's not far behind but we don't see you in panic mode. It would be interesting if during this hearing when they're coming up with long-range planning, somebody said hey we need more reservoirs.
We need a desal plant and as you know I suggested that the county take advantage of the desal plant to whatever degree we can think of how to do it that's at Gaviota It used to be at double its capacity. What would it take to bring it back up, and could we get that water into the watershed in a meaningful way? You're not in panic mode. I haven't seen any memos going off to Bureau of Reclamation saying hey let's cut the water for the fish.
The Board of Supervisors is urging Congressman Lois Capps cut the water for the Hilton Creek Fish. And save that water, we are in a crisis. I don't catch that. When are we going to hear and see you be in crisis mode and have your departments respond accordingly? Thank you.
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You know, I thought we did express our grave concern and actually put in an aggressive public education campaign that I know CEO's office Terry was making sure it was implemented. But I'm a little bit at a loss as to being straddled by Mr. Caldwell as to our responsibility. I think we're not a purveyor and we've done what we could I know Supervisor Lavinino and I have talked about inviting all the purveyors to one of our board meetings in the future.
And it was actually his idea, and I think it would be a great opportunity to hear from our purveyors what they're doing, what they're not doing, and have a good robust discussion for the public to understand all those efforts. Keep in mind that most of these purveyors if not all Have duly elected public officials. Not us, not the Board of Supervisors. They have their elected officials. The city has theirs.
Montecito has the Montecito Water District and so forth. So they are the ones that are looking at decisions that they've made or are making to address this grave situation For their rate payers. And it would be nice to hear what they're doing. I don't know what else we can do other than educate our constituents to conserve more, but I think we're doing it. Ms. Caldwell if you could give me more specifics. No no no, you've already given me some.
But there weren't a whole lot of specifics on what's within our authority.
And I'll just piggyback on that. As I did request, you know through the CEO's office one of the things we talked about was bringing in the water purveyors and kind of giving us a try to be in case we get hit by our constituents letting them know where the responsibilities lie and those types of things but a longer range is I've also requested a long-range water We're going to continue to work with the public works department to find a solution and whether that's water storage or whatever that is to have our public works department come back to us and just kind of give us some options ideas.
You know, nothing's out of the realm of possibility of what we should look at This one might end soon. Who knows? We're going to have another one in the future and we should be prepared so I think there are some things we can do in the short term and a long term. Rectify that situation supervisor Adam.
Yeah, you know, I just think we've failed to adequately plan for drought. We know that one's coming. It's not like like the guy in the Santa Barbara news You know, and for right now. I just think that it's it's unbelievable to me that we haven't been engaged in discussions more openly at least I don't know if we are but nobody's nobody's talking I mean, that's your best and most reliable source of water. And as Mr. Caldwell correctly points out what we have left in Kachuma is going out the gate every day so we can keep 20 fish alive. Is it 20 or so? Yeah. Fish alive and we have a absolute unmitigated crisis staring us in the face on the South Coast. Santa Maria is fine My district is fine. Steve's district is fine, but you know that this thing down on the South Coast is uber serious and I don't see anybody doing anything about it and you know, I just I think it's unbelievable to me and I'm kind of surprised that I haven't gotten in involved in a discussion on that.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I actually was going to bring this up during Public Works presentation and I think I will save some of those comments for then but for now, you know, I share everybody's frustration as far as the board's limited purview in these comprehensive water issues It seems like between COMB and CCWA, and the individual water districts that actually purvey the water as Supervisor Carbajal mentioned.
We're really not involved even though we are definitely involved and we certainly hear from constituents on it. I mean when I was a consultant to the new city of Goleta, I researched and wrote the background report on water. So I have a lot to say and a lot of background on the history of water planning, particularly on the South Coast. And a lot of frustrations about the decisions or lack thereof that the South Coast Water Districts made over the last few years. There are drought plans in place but in my opinion they should have been using more state water when they had it And saving the water in Kachuma, and they didn't do that even though that was an unwritten practice in the past. So I'm also very frustrated, I think when it comes to desal.
Certainly the city of Santa Barbara is looking at it now as well they should. I think it's clear that the cost of desalinated water is so expensive. It certainly isn't an answer for agriculture, and that's a real concern for me. And so anyway, I certainly share all of the frustrations.
Supervisor Carball? Thank you. Just so you're aware Mr. Adam, the Montecito Water District has engaged on some level in conversations with some city officials about the desal plant and exploring a partnership. I don't know where those discussions have gone but I know Mr. Greg Hart on the Santa Barbara City Council has been instrumental In interfacing with the decision makers in Montecito and I think they are having some discussions but then again.
It's the purveyors that are having this discussion because they have the responsibility to the extent that we can prod encourage be aware what is going on it would be great but you know to what in terms of what role we have its its it's a question mark and it would be great to understand that as well so I appreciate The fact that we might be able to get some of the purveyors, if not all the purveyors come before us in the future and perhaps share with us what they're doing or not.
Supervisor Adam. You know talking about how much this water costs. I think that if you don't have any what's it matter what it cost, you know, I mean this is one of those things I think you probably ought to consider an emergency to draw down the strategic reserve for I mean this thing is going to get really bad If it doesn't rain next year and even this fall. I mean, my my understanding is we are going to run out of water and look back at that.
The head. Water guide there. We're going to run out of water in August in in In a year and a half. Okay, fine you got a year now that it looks like a puddle out there I mean, it's really really I was amazed at the At the small size of the lake. It must be really deep but You know, I think you better make a plan and to me if If you can't, you know even agriculture, you know, they have some some They are where they are, it is what it is and they're going to have some choices to make.
And you've got to have people be able to flush the toilet and take a shower and turn on the tap too so that's pretty important to me.
I want to make sure I understand my colleagues advocacy. Are you saying we should use the reserve, our reserves to subsidize the water purveyors and the rate payers? Because if I'm hearing that, I'm okay with it. I'm just wondering if you're suggesting that county government use our strategic reserve to pay for some of the actions we might take that purveyor's have a responsibility for doing.
I just want to
understand
that
if well, I think you should be part of the solution. And I think that turning on that diesel plant is pretty important and I would be willing to front some money to help get I think it's really important to get it going right now and maybe at the 3,000 acre foot level not the 10,000 acre foot level that it's plumbed for. But I think you should be thinking about that and I'm kind of frankly surprised that we haven't been spoken to as a board about this. You know everybody comes to us they want us to fund everything right? I mean why would this be any different? So I'm surprised, and I guess I'm just throwing it out there that this is an emergency. I think it's an emergency.
Mr. Adam, I will be pursuing discussions with my constituents in light of your generosity.
All right, well good deal. You better get a third vote. Don't get too far out of control there. But CEO Miyazato, if you want to wrap this up. This discussion we're having just kind of give us a broad kind of time frame because this is something we had discussed.
Chair Lavine and board members, we will be asking the purveyors to come to your board as you said with a presentation to talk about what they're doing and for your board have a chance to ask them questions. Tom Fairam and Ryan Rockerand and those on the task force will be organizing that in the next month either at the May meeting or one of the June meetings. And also to talk about some of the things you've mentioned about long-term planning.
And also just let you know that our staff has been helping facilitate meetings But the water purveyors and Ryan Rockebrand I know has been meeting with his counterparts at the state and federal emergency management organizations, alerting them to our position in trying to find funding for ourselves and for the water purveyors.
Okay very good looking forward to those discussions next month. All right without further discussion now we will move to Dr. Russell what are you gonna do about water?
Drink a glass
this is on you
Good morning, Mr. Chair and Supervisors. It is my honor today to present to you the recommended operating budget for the Planning and Development Department for fiscal year 2014-15 and 15-16. The recommended operating budget is $17.9 million. The recommended general fund contribution to the operating budget is approximately $4.2 million which is 23% of the department budget.
The proposed budget includes $111,000 in one-time funding. The recommended budget includes 86.5 budgeted FTE positions as proposed the budget reflects a reduction of 2.3 FTE and long range planning due to the loss of $311,000 in one time funding that currently supports those positions. I will discuss the services that would be reduced as a result and possible solutions shortly.
Due to the increased demand for permits that is occurring as we rebuild after the recession The proposed budget includes five additional permit-related positions that will be supported by permit processing revenues. This chart summarizes the source of funds for the department's budget. As you can see, about half of the funds come from permitting. As I previously mentioned, about 23% of our funding is general fund contribution and about 16% comes from charges for services which is largely passed through funding for contracts who have environmental documents such as EIRs prepared.
The remainder includes other minor funding sources, which I will not describe unless there are questions. This graph depicts an eight-year summary of general fund contribution, which has dropped from about $6.7 million in fiscal year 07-08 to the proposed 4.2 million in fiscal year 14-15. This graph depicts the use of one time money in the department's budget. As you can see, the use of one time money has decreased from $1 million in fiscal year 10-11 to $111,000 in the proposed fiscal year 14-15. As I will shortly discuss, the reduction in the use of one times funds may result in service level reductions in core policy development services provided by long range planning.
This graph shows the number of FTE over time in the department which reached a high of 160 FTE in fiscal year 07-08 which is almost hard to believe and has since dropped to a projected 86.5 FTE In fiscal year 14-15. Planning and development has achieved a number of accomplishments during the fiscal year 13-14 worth noting. Accomplishments have been made in all divisions within the department and include a variety of important services to our communities. Policy program accomplishments include completion of the Mission Canyon Community Plan, local adoption of the Summerlin Community Plan shortly Initiation of the Gaviota plan for environmental review and completion of environmental review for the energy and climate action plan.
Accomplishments in the permitting divisions of the department include numerous projects such as Keysight 30, Goleta Beach EIR, Golden Inn and Village, Santa Maria Energy, and the Southern California Gas Storage Project. In all approximately 1200 zoning permits were approved. Also approved were 1,250 building permits with a total valuation of $203 million. Additional accomplishments include completion of a competitive CREF grant process and contracts in our coastal mitigation program, improvements in the timeliness and effectiveness of our code enforcement program, and implementation of a new accounting system for permit applicants. A significant enhancement to our public-facing Acela permit tracking system was also accomplished that allows users to receive weekly email updates about progress on their permit applications.
This was in response to a constituent request made to the board. Looking forward to the next fiscal year, a number of objectives have been identified for the 2014-15 fiscal year policy development objectives include completion of the housing element update, the winery ordinance, the Los Alamos pedestrian circulation and parking plan, the energy and climate action plan, and others.
In permitting, in addition to our normal customer service we plan to conduct Disaster preparedness exercises and improved project condition compliance procedures. Also planned are implementation of internet access to permit records, and a comprehensive study for building and planning fees. Succession planning in the department training program will also be areas of focus.
Looking out to the 2015-16 fiscal year we anticipate local adoption of the Gaviota and Eastern Goleta Valley plans, completion of the Hollister's streetscape design standards And finalization and permitting of the Santa Claus Lane streetscape. The department maintains many performance measures, a few of which are highlighted on this slide. These measures focus on improving customer service in our permitting and code enforcement operations. These measures are designed to challenge employees to shorten application timelines for both simple and more complex planning projects, building and grading projects, and inspections. In addition, making more timely decisions on potential building and zoning violations is also a goal.
The next two slides detail potential service level reductions that may result from the loss of one-time funding that has supported core policy development services in recent years. Our submitted budget does not include resources to restore these service level impacts. These slides describe the potential impacts to services and quantify them both in terms of FTE and dollar amount.
The total impacted FTE is 2.3 positions that are currently filled And the total dollar amount necessary to restore these services is $311,000. They are organized from one to five with number one being our evaluation of what would be the most significant impact although we consider them all to be significant and important projects. The potentially effective projects include both existing projects and possible new projects. Project sheets that include milestones and project costs for possible new projects have been included in your binder As you requested at our work program hearing in March. The most significant service impact is a substantial delay in the Gaviota plan, which would require $92,000 to restore.
Next would be stopping work on the Hollister streetscape plan, a project that would require $83,000 to restore. The next service level reductions relate to the potential loss of new grants that we have already been awarded or expect to be awarded. Due to the unavailability of sufficient GFC matching funds. These include the loss of a grant for our coastal resilience lead project in the amount of $200,000 awarded to us by the Coastal Conservancy and an alternate fuels readiness grant in the amount of $299,000 awarded to us by the California Energy Commission.
Although our proposed budget does include some of the required matching funds in the form of in-kind staff work additional matching funds required to not lose these grants Our $14,000 and $17,000 respectively. Finally we anticipate the loss of any ability to start any new long range planning projects by staff freed up due to the completion of other current projects. To restore the ability to start any new projects with our current level of staffing would require $104,000.
Ideally these service level reductions can be avoided by replacing the one time funding that has now disappeared Ongoing funding in order to maintain what are already significantly reduced core policy and ordinance development services both next year and into the future as different project needs arise or One-time funding could be used to restore some or all of these services for the upcoming year Although the department would then face the same problem again next year possibly worse there is however a potential one time funding option that may lessen the service level reductions of at least for the upcoming fiscal year.
Since we submitted our budget that includes the service level reductions, we are currently projecting that the department will have some excess revenue at year-end close. Should we have excess revenues on June 30th your board could direct those revenues to reduce our service level impacts. It is not known currently if the projected excess revenues will be sufficient to provide one time funding to restore most or all of the service level reductions in the upcoming year But we will know with more certainty the amount as we get closer to the end of the fiscal year.
While it may make sense to use excess revenues to restore service level impacts, it would be preferable to find at least some additional ongoing funding to reduce the size of the one-time funding cliff that we will eventually face. But in the absence of any such ongoing funding I will ask your board to redirect excess revenues to address the service level reductions.
Challenges facing the department include finding stable funding for our long-range planning policy development program that I just discussed, maintaining the right level of staffing in the face of fluctuating permit workload and staff turnover. Succession planning is an issue that we also need to address and has been made more difficult due to the loss of staff positions during the recession. As I discussed, we are requesting a budget enhancement in the form of $311,000 for ongoing support of 2.3 FTE due to the loss of one time funding that currently supports those positions.
In summary, planning and development is currently rebuilding from the recession. In order to do so it is important to reduce our reliance on one-time funding of our policy work program, implement succession planning for key positions, scale up to meet rising permitting workload and reestablish our training program. We have already taken some steps to accomplish these goals. We have added five new staff positions to our proposed budget in our permitting divisions.
One a permitting Thank you, Dr. Russell. Supervisor Carbajal? Thank you Mr. Chair.
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I know Mona you want feedback today so I'm going to give you a little bit of feedback on this. I think, I'm looking forward to the department identifying what kind of savings they have that could be used one time for this unfunded or this challenge $310,000 because I think it's essential that the projects that we're already working on that we continue funding for them.
I do want also the list of potential new projects to be brought back Our budget for consideration, but in particular. Well I don't know that we should give you any specifics now other than bring the list and we'll examine which ones if any we are interested in pursuing. If you want that feedback now from us as a board certainly I could give you my feedback but I'd rather the potential new projects list come back to us and then we'll take it up then.
And a reminder that any, definitely what I want to come back is any grant funded project and any matching funds for those grants. To come back to us during budget deliberation so that we could move those forward especially if we have grant funding for some of these items or new projects that were looking for So I just want to make that clear in terms of my expectation, that those come before us. Especially the grant funded ones but all the other ones as well for consideration whether we fund some or all of them, that's a different issue.
All right, very good. I just want to say I'm glad you've responded quickly to the addition of 5 new permitting positions is as work ramps up obviously when we start looking and that's I think this is exactly why we have performance measures in here some of the areas where the department looks like it's falling short right now is turning around permits in any amount of time you have permit approval I think it's important for us to make sure that we're doing the right thing. Like approving ministerial permits within 60 days, you know, obviously we're lacking in that area but I think for us to turn around quickly and get these 5 people up and running and moving quickly as we see the economy turnaround is critical so.
Mister chair would like to respond just by saying we've made sure to choose certain measures that are in fact challenging ones. Yeah, absolutely.
And How well are areas that we need to improve and where to move the workforce too. So I think really, and the fact putting in percent of lost time is something I'd like to see from every department so very good. Supervisor Wolfe?
Thank you Mr. Chair. Can you talk a little bit about the status of enforcement officers in your department?
Mr. Chair, Supervisor Wolf, it is a status quo what we're projecting from what we have today as status quo and if you remember when we reorganized the department which made certain changes such as taking all of minerals and energy and putting it in one division which we now feel has been very successful. We also made a significant change to code enforcement by placing our code enforcement officers under one supervising planner so in one division so that Could have better consistency. We recently had a presentation to the planning commission that evaluated, at the request of the public, that evaluated the status of our code enforcement program. And in general I would say we certainly face challenges but if you look at what we do today compared to what we did when I first got here about five years ago.
Our code enforcement project is in much better shape and is still improving as necessary.
OK, because I see the actuals from 1213 was 88%, so. I guess what you're saying is that we've improved over the last few years
and it is due supervisor Wolf and I would say it is directly due to better supervision.
OK?
And you know that's a big issue to my constituents, so it's good to see the improvement but Do what we can to make sure that those quote code enforcement. Notices are done within a timely period
supervisor will yes,
thank you.
Thank you very good. We actually have a few requests to speak and so if they are actually on planning development. So instead of I think we're still deciding what we're going to do with public works, I'm really getting hungry but let's go let's go to public comment and then we'll figure out when we want to do public work so strong
We'll start with Victoria Green to speak on the planning and development budget, to be followed by Nicole DiCamillo who's also on P&D. And then Mary Bianchi who wants to speak on the Ag Commissioner. We have three minutes to speak.
Thank you. Good afternoon Chair Lavanino, Supervisors. Speaking on behalf of the Montecito Association today. I wanted to speak in support of permanent funding for planning and developments policy work Specifically, I wanted to request that you include funding for what was described as the limited? Montecito architectural guidelines revisions back at the time You considered the P&D work program that you include that in the PND budget for the coming year That project involves changes to the zoning ordinance and the architect Montecito architectural guidelines That would address the trend towards tall plate heights and large habitable basements in hillside development that have resulted in a size and scale of development that doesn't conform to the policies, the goals, and the intent of the Montecito Community Plan.
So we think that the Montecito Community Plan which is in its third decade still has a long life before it. It doesn't need a lot of work. It just needs some minor fixes. And this is one that we think is low cost less than 0.3 FTE To carry some changes through public review and decision making process, and close what we see as kind of a major gap in the community. So I just again want to say that the association stands ready to help in any way that we can in moving that effort forward whether it's hosting community meetings, facilitating the public notice. Pursuing grant funding in conjunction with the county any of those things we can do to help We would like to help just to kind of get this get the ball rolling on this and get it done efficiently.
Thank you
Very good. Thank you for being here supervisor Carbajal
We have 0.2 FTE Listed for that how much funding are we? Talking about I mean
How much funding are we requesting from the Montecito Association, I think is what he's asking. She said any way possible she would like to help.
Through the Chair, Supervisor Carbajal, the total is $73,000 over two years next year 30,000. Thank you
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Well, obviously I echo what figured you would miss green said and it's one of those items that I suggested Come back to us during budget discussions. I didn't list or select any of them out Knowing that or requesting that they all come back for our consideration
Okay, very good
Nicole D Camillo and then Mary Bianchi
Good afternoon, Chair and members of the Board of Supervisors. My name is Nicole DiCamillo. I am a new staff attorney at Environmental Defense Center. Environmental Defense Center has been active in the Santa Barbara community for 37 years protecting water resources, farmlands, open space habitats and species. We're here today to just to echo our support for the planning and development work group plan.
Especially the aspects including, sorry, the Gaviota Coast Plan, the Alternative Fields Readiness Grant, Coastal Resiliency Project. And especially my background is in CEQA and I definitely support the establishment of a greenhouse gas emission threshold under CEQA. This provides cost effective planning, provide certainty and consistency for applicants. And we would like to point out that the county has already done this much of the necessary environmental review and financial analysis in doing the Santa Maria Energy Project so it won't cost too much to move forward with this and we really support that. Thank you for your time.
Mary Bianchi.
Good morning my name is Mary Bianchi I'm a University of California Cooperative Extension horticulture advisor and also director of cooperative extension programs in Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties The partnership between Santa Barbara County and Cooperative Extension provides an important local linkage between the resources of the land-grant campuses of the University, the local agricultural industry, and local communities. This partnership was created in 1920 with a request from the Santa Barbara County Farm Bureau to the County Board of Supervisors for funding to support a farm advisor.
County funds have continued to support the costs of business for cooperative extension since that time. Today, our seven advisors and specialists provide science and service to 995 agricultural clientele through farm calls phone and email consultations and meetings we reach youth through efforts at 13 elementary schools 18 4H clubs military clubs and after school programs and provide educational programs for your urban constituents throughout the county On water conservation, reduced pesticide use and efficient nitrogen use to both conserve water and protect water quality as well as the importance of managing invasive pests like the Asian citrus psyllid.
During the 10-year period from 2003 to 2013 Santa Barbara County funding allocated to cooperative extension decreased from $287,000 to $153,000. In this current budget year county funds of 153 thousand are matched at more than 6 to 1 by university, USDA and private funds. Our current 13-14 budget for cooperative extension programs in Santa Barbara is $1.175 million dollars Also during this current budget year, the University made a major commitment to Santa Barbara County by appointing a new 4-H Youth Families and Community Advisor. This is a key and long term decision by the University to maintain its support for cooperative extension programs in Santa Barbara County based on the belief that county funding would continue to support our costs of business.
Cooperative Extension is supportive of adding watershed, rangeland and wildlife management efforts in Santa Barbara with return to our 2009-2010 contract level of $180,000. County contributions at this level would represent 16% of our total budget based on 1314 numbers. However, our current costs of business necessitate requesting a minimum increase in our county contract above status quo to $162,000 This level would ensure our ability to provide a significant presence to clientele in the South County, while continuing our support of North County clientele from our San Luis Obispo office. We thank you very much for your consideration of this request. Thank you.
All right that's all of our public speakers I'll take Supervisor Farr.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to make a couple of comments about the planning and development presentation. First of all, I agree with what Supervisor Carbajal said earlier and it was something that I also said when we looked at the department's long-range planning program that I do support the continuation of the ongoing projects in their request for the $310,000.
To support that and also bringing back the list of the short term additional projects during budget to see, depending on how much savings the department might have to offset some of this. Whether we would have the ability to add anything to the list particularly if it was grant funded. I think it's also important to really look at the staffing summary for this department over the last 10 years And how many staff that they've lost during that period?
But it's also important to remember that the public's expectations of this department Whether it's for community planning whether it's for expedited permitting whether it's four really good Immediate enforcement for zoning and building code violations has not been reduced. It's still there, and it's ongoing. So I think the department is really to be commended for the level of service that they have been able to provide despite this severe reduction in staff. And I'd like to be able to say that this year, that we could start to build that back. But my first priority is to continue what we've already started and then hope that we can start to add some positions back as the economy improves. Thank you Mr Chair.
All right very good. What is the, thank you very much Mr Russell. What's the pleasure of the board? Public works is a very large department. We all know how long-winded Mr. McAuliffe can get, just kidding. I'm hungry. Okay we're going to take a break okay we all need it we all need a break we're gonna go ahead and take a break and we'll come back and lead off with Public Works after lunch. We will be back 1 30 and we do have agenda review for those that need to be there.
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All right, we're going to reconvene our meeting of the Board of Supervisors. We're all well fed and rested. Mr. McLaughlin, we are going to listen much better now believe me.
Yes, Mr. Chair and board members thank you I don't have that blood sugar issue anymore so try to make it fast. So good afternoon and thank you for the opportunity to present the public works budget for 2014-16. Our proposed budget for next fiscal year totals $124.8 million. And this total is comprised of an operating budget of $99.3 million. That operating budget also includes $18.2 million in roads capital projects, and then our capital line item, $25.5 million is our capital projects and resource recovery and waste management as well as water resources. And I won't go into great detail on those two line items right now. I'll talk about those in the next two slides with regards to capital.
Public Works also receives a portion of the general fund as a contribution for Project Clean Water, as well as the County Surveyor's Office. And a portion of that is also set aside for the maintenance of effort requirements for Measure A. The general fund contribution this year is $2.9 million which equates to approximately 2.3% of our overall budget. The breakdown on that is the County Surveyor's Office receives $481,000. Project Clean Water received 614,000 and the balance 1.8 goes to maintenance of effort requirements As I've mentioned, I think to the board in the past we manage our expenses and public works. To our projected revenues on an annual basis and adjust the size of our organization accordingly. And today a proposed budget for 14-15 includes 279.3 employees and this is an 18% reduction when you look at the 10 year time frame from 05-06.
And it's also a reduction of 3.7 FTE from the current fiscal year. The department has no one time use of fund balance, we do however have one service level reduction and that's for $133,800 in the county surveyors office. And we have two expansion requests that total a little over $9.1 million. So let's take a quick look at capital projects. Our first capital project to highlight would be the San Pedro Las Vegas Creek Project within the city of Goleta. Next fiscal year we have $6.6 million budgeted, the total project costs are $12 million. The district itself took the lead to coordinate the project development team out in Goleta and included the City of Goleta, Caltrans and certainly us. Caltrans is currently constructing their portion of the project.
And the district is now responsible for the construction of the railroad bridges to improve drainage capacity and reduce flooding upstream. The district as well has been focusing on the construction of Mission Creek, the lower portion below the freeway. Working with our partners, the City of Santa Barbara. And primarily using local funding down in that area of the project. Next fiscal year we have $3.2 million budgeted. Total project costs as you know is well over $80 million and this is an ongoing project to widen the creek to provide additional capacity and reduce flooding in the city.
A few weeks ago, your board awarded the Tahecus Liner Phase 3B project. Next fiscal year we have program $3.999 million dollars not 4 million but 3.999. We're sticklers for accuracy. The project will provide additional capacity to the landfill in accordance with the approved expansion plan. And we have programmed the Laguna County Sanitation District sludge beds at a cost of $1.9 million next fiscal year, and this project will increase solids holding capacity to meet our permitted levels of 3.7 million gallons per day.
And then we have our capital replacement line items which total 6.1 million dollars and that's across all funds. And as I mentioned, the transportation capital projects also shown in our operating line item. And that was done because of the grants that we bring in so we could easily track where that money came from and what it was spent on. Transportation capital projects fall into six different categories. They are bridge replacements and repairs, pavement preservation, new capacity and enhancements, hardscape repairs, major infrastructure repairs, and bridge scour repairs.
And you've seen this slide throughout the presentations of this morning, a pie chart which depicts where all the sources of our funds come from in Public Works. So we can take a closer look now and see the general fund contribution to Public Works over the last few years. As I mentioned, our GFC equates to 2.3% of our Public Works budget. GFC comes to us for Measure A, the MOE required, Project Clean Water as well as the County Surveyor's Office.
Again, in fiscal year 14-15 we anticipate having 279.3 employees included in our budget if the budget is approved by your board in June. Again this is an 18% reduction from 05-06 when we were at 340 employees and it's also a 3.7 FTE reduction from the current year end. Another way to look at it too, over the last ten years we have lost 60.8 positions in public works and I'm proud to say over that time frame we only had one layoff which we were able to correct the following fiscal year and also in that time frame we were able to help other departments who were in positions of proposing layoffs to employees and we were able to absorb some of those employees within Public Works However, this year unfortunately will be a little bit different and we'll have to say goodbye to some of our members of our team in Public Works.
As you know, a lot happens in Public Works and I'd like to take a moment now to highlight a few of the accomplishments that our great team in Public Works will have done by the end of this fiscal year. And certainly one of the big projects and processes we've been working on is preparing the EIR for the Resource Recovery Project proposed at Tahecus. We are hoping to get back to your board this fall for certification of the EIR.
Throughout the year we successfully applied for $5 million in grant funding, including the $4 million Federal Lands Access Program Grant for two streets contained in the U.S. Forest Service. So that was big. The county surveyor by the end of the fiscal year will review, record or file over 340 maps and corner records across our county. And I mentioned in detail a little bit about Las Vegas and San Pedro Creek, but we've had certainly a couple of emerging issues. We heard of one this morning.
The Water Agency is fully engaged as part of the CEO's Drought Task Force and will continue in public works to provide support in this role as well as being the lead communicator with water purveyors, COMB, and CCWA. One other big project that has been going on for It's been at least a decade. The last pieces of the Santa Maria levee are being finished up and this certainly has been a long effort to define, fund and build the necessary repairs along that stretch of the levy to protect the city of Santa Maria so we should be getting a celebration on the schedule here shortly and it's really something we all need to take a tremendous amount So as we look to next year, we'll complete the Goleta Transportation Improvement Plan administrative update and send you a board for approval.
With the adjustments contained in this year's budget, we'll lead the surveyors office through the proposed organizational changes and implement the department's budget plan. We'll secure a 10-year maintenance regional general permit to allow our creek and debris basin maintenance efforts to continue so we can reduce flood hazards in our urbanized communities.
Your board will certainly be asked to certify the EIR for the resource recovery project this fall. And we continue to implement outreach opportunities through social media, Facebook, Twitter, what have you to alert our customers to the type of work that we have going on or potentially the inconveniences of traffic control associated with construction projects.
In the year after next with EIR certified, we can now move into negotiations with the vendor and execute a contract So we can go to construction and operation of the resource recovery project. We'll commence a review and update of the permit fee rates for transportation encroachments. We'll continue to work on addressing deferred maintenance backlog in long-term funding stability, and certainly one of the things that we continuously do is we try to partner with private industry as well as other local agencies to come up with creative and cost effective strategies to maintain our road system.
We'll review and upgrade our surveyor electronic data available to the general public and professional surveyors on the World Wide Web. This has really been, I think a tremendous asset to that community because prior to doing that everyone had to come here to our county surveyor's counter to pick up a map. Now you can just download it on the internet. And one of the aspects of the surveyors office, they've developed a property database for flood control. A viewer if you will that we're going to roll out in the division to help us determine property ownership when we get a call about removing a tree etc within the boundaries of a creek to determine who owns the creek, us or is it privately owned?
So let's shift our focus now to look at how we have been able to perform with the existing resources available in public works. As we announced last Tuesday, our payment condition index has dropped to a 60 from the previous year 61. And really one of the primary reasons for that is this small drop is the drought and the three consecutive dry winters. I'm going to talk a little bit about what we're doing and how we're working with the county. Water is the number one enemy when it comes taking care of pavements and certainly with pavement degradation and also last year through your board process, you provided 2 million dollars which was a big help and it allowed us to strategically pick roads before they move from a poor to a failed condition.
What have you? The state of California mandates that we review corner records and records of survey within 20 days. There are no mandates, however, on the number of days to review other maps for our other customers. However, to provide excellent customer service, that should be done within 30 days. And unfortunately It's taking now somewhere in the neighborhood of 46 days to perform these services based on our existing resources today. Also, if there are no changes to those resources with the anticipated increase in workload we're currently experiencing and I think you heard a little bit of that from Dr. Russell earlier. We believe the time required to get a review will be about 60 days at the end of 14-15.
So this is one of our budget expansions before you today for your consideration through this budget process. And it's for funding a survey specialist so we can stay below 30 days to get a review of customer submittal and meet the state mandate. Flood control as well as transportation get a number of service requests daily. Our goal is to get back to our customers within 48 hours of their request coming in, and that goal really isn't to get back I'm going to go ahead and get started. So the first thing we do when we discuss satisfying the request, it's really to get back to the customer let him know we received a talk to about And as your board knows, our customers in the Tegas Waste Shed have done a tremendous job at diverting waste from the landfill.
In fact we've been certified by the state to be at 73% diversion rate, one of the top ten in California. Our goal is to stay in that range and then when the resource recovery project comes online to get this percentage up over 85%, which will be pretty phenomenal. Public Works has been an active participant in the county's Back to Work program. However, the costs now to the department are requiring us perhaps to rethink our participation.
When an employee goes into the Back to Work program we have to pay the employee their normal salary while they participate. However, the regular and customary position must be filled with an extra help employee because it allows us to fulfill our mission. In essence, when we participate in the program, we're paying twice to have the same work completed. So for this current fiscal year, 38% of our back-to-work participants will be cleared within the 180 day goal of the county program. Our plan this year is to continue to work with risk management to see what we can do to bring this percentage up and try to get these back-to work cases cleared in 180 days or less.
Now we'll focus on the service level reductions. Your board, as I mentioned, provides a general fund contribution to the county surveyor's office for two reasons. The first is state law prohibits full cost recovery with regards to the review and filing of corner records. And secondly, review fees are reduced to something less than full cost recovery for records of survey because it's really in the public's interest to ensure that these documents get filed.
Unfortunately, the increase in general fund contribution has not kept pace with the increase in staff costs salaries health costs pension costs. So we must now reduce our budget by one survey specialist so we can use that funding to continue running the front office supervisor Adam.
So that's a state mandate that we have to do that
We have to get these reviewed and back to the customers within 20 days. That's a state mandate, and then also the state prohibits us from collecting anything more than the filing costs for a corner record which is about $12 or $15. Thank you. Supervisor Wolfe?
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Thank you Mr. Chair. Scott I'm just trying to reconcile TAP. 4, which is the efficiency summary where it says that there would be the elimination of three FTEs in public works field survey section. Eliminating Public Works Field Survey Section and that was going to be $509,000. So how does that relate to this service level reduction?
Mr. Chair Sue as a wolf that portion is contained in the next slide efficiencies We'll talk about that a little bit on the reduction and field survey and real property services this one in particular is a vacant funded position where we need to take $133,800 now just to continue running our operation the front office
Okay, and then you're recommending the elimination of three FTS I
We have 3 field surveyors and then we have a real property agent. So there's a 4 filled positions,
correct? And that's a recommendation to eliminate those positions?
That's correct So the department, going back now to the survey specialist. The department is asking for this position to be restored which would allow us to meet state mandates to return reviews of records of survey and corner records within 20 business days specified. Funding in this position would also allow us to get other customers' projects reviewed within 20 days. Those could be track maps, lot line adjustments, mergers what have you.
So now let's shift our focus and talk about the efficiencies. And I think as individuals we all certainly learn from our experiences and as a department, we take the lessons we learned as an organization and we try to change to improve so that's something that continuously happens in our Department of Public Works and some of the changes You know, we'll be employing as we move into the future in the fall of each year.
We are going to assemble emergency contracts for winter response and flood control and transportation that have labor and equipment costs determined in advance of the emergencies. Primarily the emergencies that we deal with are associated with rain and storms. So when emergencies strike there will be no delay responding to the damage caused waiting for the contract paperwork to catch up.
In resource recovery, we rolled out a system to accept credit cards at our transfer stations to improve customer satisfaction and ease of use. In the past it was only cash and checks, and that wasn't very convenient for our customers. Also in resource recovery, we've also implemented a web-based scale house account management system so our franchise haulers The cities that we work with can go right into the system and get real-time data on the tonnage that's coming through the gate from their particular communities or from their trucks that are delivering the tonnage to our facilities.
We've restructured the duties of our department safety program to more of a regional based program, so it allows us now with our two safety officers to improve our response time to the scene of accidents and incidents that occur. And it also has allowed us to improve our training program. And then Supervisor Wolf, getting back to your question. And really due to the loss of some funding in the past, STIP and RSTP in particular after the passage of Measure A as well as no more federal earmarks we don't have large transportation capacity improving type capital projects anymore. So this is required, essentially a reorganization of our departmental real estate services as well as our field surveying services.
Since we don't have that full-time need anymore on the real estate services side, we'll pass that work over to general services as it comes up and our field survey group will be essentially reduced by 60%. We have five people in there now and three will be laid off. Supervisor Wolk?
Okay. So that's I wanted to know what the impact would be so that so you just explained it to me that there's just not as much work to be done cap capital improvement work to be done.
That's correct. We just don't have the survey work in the future to support 3 full time servers and a group of 5. Our next slide discusses key challenges and emerging issues, and you can see a few key challenges here. These are also on my closing slides so I won't take a lot of time talking about those here. The department's budget enhancement request as I mentioned earlier totals $9,133,800.
There's two, the first one you saw last year and it's the $9 million need on the pavement preservation program. And the second one is the $133,800 for the survey specialist. So in closing, the work that we do in public works can certainly be defined as essential community services. And when we think about our work, what's a stable future look like for a citizen in Santa Barbara County with regards to public works?
Perhaps it falls into these five categories. A stable funding source for transportation infrastructure, developing a long-term waste management solution. Implementing our Laguna Sanitation Master Plan for the community of Orchid. Funding survey resources to meet the state mandates as well as customer project deadlines and providing effective flood response and maintenance in all zones in the county of Santa Barbara. And we have ten zones.
So Mr. Chair, board members thank you for your attention this afternoon and for the opportunity to present our public works budget. Myself and my outstanding executive team are here representing Public Works and available for any of your questions. Supervisor Wolk?
Thank you, Mr. Chair. The other nice thing about this workshop is it gives us an opportunity to thank you publicly and I want to do just that. I think your public works department is outstanding. You're incredibly nimble. I've talked about Chris Sneddon before in how he's been able You know, if there's an emergency and he can't move projects around or if there is a crew on site. He can move probably within a couple days notice that there's an emergency going on.
The whole issue with Goleta Beach. I think it was talking to you on the phone when we were looking at the Goleta slew and then next to me was was Mark and everyone's you are just an incredibly coordinated team whenever The process and the importance, you know Tom Fairam is just amazing. So you have got a great team and I thank you for your leadership. I think the issue that was brought up earlier about the water in the drought if I had one suggestion that just comes off the top of my head and it comes from a constituent and that is I think it was a couple of years ago You're one of your one of your water resources department did the rain barrel collection and That went over very well And while you know, we're talking about the drought people can't imagine that we're gonna have rain but I think sometimes we have to be prepared and get people in back into that mentality of conservation so Just just a thought as long as you're here.
So thank you all very much
supervisor far
Thank you, Mr. Chair and thank you for the presentation and I certainly echo Supervisor Wolf's comments of the wonderful work that you do for us all year long in all the different departments that you oversee. I want to bring the discussion back to water. I know that earlier we talked about water issues, state water issues, Kachuma, DeSalle but your department probably more than any other in the county does have to do with water and not just flood control And obviously all parts of our county use groundwater. And the South Coast has it as one of its sources, but there are many places in our county that totally rely on ground water only. So Cuyama, Los Alamos, the city of Lompoc, Vandenberg Village, Mission Hills, Mesa Oaks, not to mention all of the farmers, ranchers, vintners and the people that live out in the rural residences.
So I know that your department through the Water Agency has funded, used to be annually and then some years back went to once every three years an update of all the groundwater basins throughout the county. And I think because of our drought status that I think we're in the second year of the three-year cycle that I would request that you strongly consider going ahead and starting the update of that groundwater basin study now I'm starting to hear from people that are very concerned about what the water levels might be.
One constituent said that they had some information from somebody who was monitoring a USGS well, that the water levels had dropped three and a half feet just in the last year. So that is one request that I would ask of you. I think it's very timely when we're looking at the overall water situation for our county. The other request I have is that I know that Cuyama has already embarked on a long-term, several year study of the groundwater basin there which has been an overdraft. And it came to the board in the fall that we consider doing the same for Los Alamos.
So I would like you to go ahead and see if we can't push forward with that study as well. I've had a very strong letter just recently from the Community Services District in Los Alamos, that once that study done Vandenberg Air Force Base personnel have also expressed an interest in that study because they do draw from that basin depending on the amount of state water they get which we know now is probably at zero So it makes it even more acute that we know what's going on there. And again, you know I think that there is money in the Water Agency budget and I don't think this is something that you necessarily need more money to do although you might be able to get some partners and some other money from Vandenberg or maybe USGS. Thank you Mister chair.
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3 or 4 feet in a base and during the drought is a normal occurrence. And even if there was another year of drought in a base in the size of San Antonio through for years at 3, 4 feet should not be a concern. You know that's something. We're just going to have to live with and it's a normal and customary right Tom. Tommy listening to this. I'm sorry to disturb you over
Supervisor Adam, it wasn't in the San Antonio Basin. That person was, excuse me, yeah it wasn't in the Los Alamos area. This was another part of the county where that person said that. I just mentioned that as an example of, I think they're growing concern about it and clearly the ground water basins go up and down. And I think that was probably why the board in the past said we don't necessarily need to do this every year because we can have a big rain event and then it takes several years for the basin to recharge. But I do think because of the growing concern and interest that it would be good to know, you know for a snapshot in time right now where those basins are.
Well that may be but just so everybody knows droughts cause groundwater levels to decline and then they refill and that's why drought does not equal overdraft necessarily
Mr. McAuliffe and maybe this is a Tom question, I don't know but so we go to the budget overview, the D page for public works and budget by budget program. I was here and I'm trying to remember why there's such a significant increase in transportation went from 31 to 42 million and now we're kind of leveling off but what was it? What was that? Do you see where I'm talking about?
You guys know what that. No problem.
I don't have that in front of me, that would be in last year's budget, I can
go. Yeah, well I noticed it's a little bit of a drop down to this year but when I went back and looked it's still significantly more than it was in 12-13 so
It's often very large projects that would move those. So let us take a look and get back to you on that.
We can just, you can bring it to me afterwards. There's no big deal unless you want to tackle it. Um,
Mr. Chair, if you go to D five, it talks about it in the second bullet down on the expenditures decreases in services and supplies.
Hold on a sec.
It's a combination. It's the biggest thing to decrease as budget director Alvarez mentioned and capital projects for maintenance and transportation. And we'll get some more detail on it when I get back to you too.
Thank you and I'll echo obviously what everybody else up here said. I know that when I'm in Sacramento or at a CSAC conference, our Public Works Department is looked upon as one of the best in the state so obviously doing a really good job. Appreciate all you guys do. I think there's some public comment additional public comment on Public Works You guys would feel left out if you didn't have Andy commenting on your presentation. So I'll give you three
more minutes. Thank you very much, Chairman Lavinino. I have four comments. One of them is that in years past when Goleta Beach has lost sand they've used some of the sand dredged out of the harbor for it and they've also used sand and dirt out of the debris basins. And we'd kind of like to know why that isn't Being done this year is it not considered necessary. I don't know looks to me that it would be a good time to do it especially when the harbor has so much in many problems number 2.
I know on Wednesday you're having this special issues study on buildings and parks but I'm pardon me, I'm lost what happened to roads in that report is roads under a separate report Why is it under a separate report and where is that report? This precedes, we've actually been talking about the road maintenance deficit for 20 years. And we've always felt that when a department comes before you just like alcohol and drug mental health comes before us so we have a $7 million deficit that the public works department should come before you and Put a monetary figure on their deficit and show you a chart, a JAWS chart.
Well if we do something today this is what it's going to cost. If we don't that should be part of their budget presentation each and every year because it's one of the most valuable assets that we own. Number three solid waste. As staff told you they're already at this 73% figure Which is one of the highest in the state. What's it worth going to 85? More precisely, what's it gonna cost to get to 85% diversion?
What's the value to getting to 85 percent diversion? We have this mentality that well if it sounds environmentally conscious, cost doesn't matter. But can you imagine, I agree you have an excellent staff in this department. What if because they have the county water agency? What if we'd been spending the last ten years developing water resources instead of trying to double our exceedance of a state mandate for waste diversion?
What's it worth to be doubled what the state is mandating us? Versus dealing with the literal crises we have on their hands and wasting their time, energy, talent and our money on this big-time pursuit instead of that. Finally, Los Alamos Water Supervisor Farr. Santa Maria Energy has got a pipeline taking waste water from Santa Maria Energy to their field. It's not that much farther to go to Los Alamos in terms of recharging that basin.
Would you please look into that? We've been talking about this in the North County. Take that wastewater out from, exceed the capacity that Santa Maria Energy needs and see if you can use it to replenish the water. We think it would be clean enough for recharging basins. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Is that our last speaker? Okay. Thank you very much. Unless Scott wants... You got a closing comment? Where's your quote? You know, we're engineers. I mean, we're not that quotable.
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I'm sorry, I didn't bring any gifts today. But thank you, we appreciate the kind words. We got a tremendous team, certainly my team here and then the folks that are working for these folks out in the field and in the offices making all this happen. Fabulous, so we're very fortunate to be the leaders of that department. And thank you very much for the opportunity to do that. Thank you.
I think you hit on something Scott. And we would probably be remiss if we didn't say, as each department comes up, we're talking about the leadership of the department. But it's a lot, it's the employees that are out there in the front lines, the guys filling the holes and those types of things. Our appreciation extends to all of them through our department heads, so we want to thank all of them. Supervisor Wolk?
Before they leave, Mr. Fairam and I see Mr. Parker here. Can you address the question that was raised about the sand replenishment on Goleta Beach?
Yes, Mr. Chair, Supervisor Wolf, the operations at Goleta Beach for sand replenishment basically come from two opportunities. The harbor sand has been delivered to Goleta Beach through either a Beacon endorsed project or in one case it was actually Park Scott FEMA money from I believe it was the 2005 disaster which caused a lot of erosion. The flood control district delivers whatever sand is beach compatible, and that is typically from the debris basins around the airport. Last time we did that I believe was 2011 and it was done. There hasn't been a need since then mostly because we haven't had much rain in the last several years but when that need does come if it's suitable to go to the beach it will.
Mr. Parker, if you can add to that from your position as it relates to the Coastal Commission?
Thank you Supervisor Wolf and members of the Board, Chair. We as the Board knows we got some emergency permits from the Coastal Commission to go out and do some tapering if you will of the sand and moving the sand a little bit to create access for the public to use the beach. And in doing that and in our conversations we wanted to make sure that we gave it a little bit of time to see what the beaches natural We're going to move on to our last and
Yes, Supervisor Lavanino. Just a point of clarification. So on Wednesday we'll be coming back and as you're aware Public Works has reported from year to year what their PCI is, what the change is, what the amount of funding necessary to maintain that is. We've not had that information for general services buildings and parks or rather county buildings and parks. And so that's the purpose of Wednesday is to come back with that information and then combine that need We're going to have a discussion with the roads need to look at some possible funding options.
OK, so that's all tied up in the measure and discussion we're going to have on Wednesday. Very good. All right. Our final is non county agency request outside organizations and non county agencies requests.
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I'm here and so is Casa Esperanza to discuss the HCD budget. So, I was here for HCD. I'm hoping that public comment's going to happen soon on that because we're not asking for anything new. We want to make a comment regarding the HCD budget that already occurred.
I am sorry you already missed your chance for that. Oh come on! I'm just kidding. Yes, let's do that now before we go into these two. So we'll open up public comment again for HCD. Yeah. Anybody else out there that would like to speak about anything that happened before this? Today, come in and put in a speaker slip and okay, let's go.
We'll start with Sylvia then we'll go to Bob Bogle.
Thank you very much. My name is Sylvia Bernard, I'm the Executive Director of Good Samaritan Shelter. We provide services in Santa Maria and in Lompoc. Our agency has more than 400 beds under roof. HCD budget reflects a recommendation of a 40% cut to the general fund for homeless funding. 242 shelter beds are represented within that cut in our shelter system.
With Good Sam full with waiting lists, we cannot afford a 40% cut on our HCD general fund. So that would result in a cut of 40 beds out of our entire system and like I mentioned, we're full with waiting lists. Good Samaritan leverages $800,000 a year to our shelter system on top of this funding. In addition, we bring another $3 million in support services for the homeless including federal and local funding and private funding as well.
Homeless families make up approximately 70% of the people that we serve. Homeless kids, children if anyone deserve to have a safe place to live while their family stabilize and transition out of homelessness I know that your jobs are not easy but I encourage you to find the funding to keep this allocation and This may be deja vu because every year I'm here asking please do not have this be a one-time allocation Can we consider having this be a permanent allocation so that every year our funding is not We're going to be able to secure it in a permanent way so that we do not have to come in front of you again.
We just heard recently about these cuts. We have been tight on our budgets as you all know, since last August we're established our budgets and we're moving smoothly ahead 40% cut is very extreme. I'm kind of like Sylvia we would have to knock out about 30 beds Thank you. Thank you very much for that process bronzes supplies 48,000 bed nights and a 144,000 meals we have just changed our mission statement to serve Santa Barbara County residents only to focus on the keep us separate from the transient population We have started a new faith phase 3 100 day program to get people from homelessness to housing.
And we need case managers for that in this budget cut would kill that situation and that's all
I got to say thank you. It's have clarification so it was at 2.42 just look at Samaritan or is that total. That's just you okay, It's the 165. So Tom, is this the 165,000 that we're seeing?
Yes, that's correct.
Okay. Thank you very much. Is that all of our public speakers?
Yes. Chairman. We do have requests to speak from Bill Mahan from the courthouse legacy foundation and Mr. Caldwell but I think they would like to speak after any presentation on outside organizations. Okay.
If you'd like to speak now, that's fine.
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Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the Board of Supervisors. My name is Bill Mahan and I am president of the Courthouse Legacy Foundation. I know you know this but just for the sake of the public, the Courthouse Legacy Foundation has just one goal and that is to help you conserve and restore your courthouse. So our restoration project for 2013-2014 and 2015 a three year project Is the restoration of the mural room.
This is a complete restoration of the mural room, not only the mural which has not been touched professionally for 85 years but also the beams, the corbels, the chandeliers, the leather seats, everything we wanted to just look like it looked the first day that the supervisor sat down in 1929 and our budget for this is $600,000 last year. I came before you and ask for a grant of $40,000 and you granted that to us. Thank you.
And I'm very happy to report that we took your $40 thousand and we have multiplied it by 750%. So now we have $300,000 for the restoration of the, of the mural room But our goal, as I said, is 600,000. So we still have 300,000 to go this year and that's why I'm back here to ask for a grant of 40,000 again. And I am very, very secure in telling you that we will leverage the new 40,00 into 300,000 and we will be able to begin our project on January 2nd 2015 and complete it in April or maybe early May so that it will be bright and sparkling for the June brides. And I gave an email to a lady this morning who was concerned whether she could have her wedding in June in 2015, and I told her absolutely. And the mural room will be lovely.
So our request is for $40,000. I'm here to answer any questions that you have. Thank you very much, Supervisor Carbajal.
Thank you Mr. Chair. Obviously this county asset is in the first district but as much as I'd love to take claim to it And being very proud, it's really all of our districts because it's an asset for the county. I think anytime we have a citizen group that steps up and says give us one-sixth or one-tenth of the proceeds that you need to take care of your building for but then we're going to raise the rest obviously it's a deal we can't refuse.
So I think it's a no-brainer and I sure hope that when this comes back to us in June, there is enough support to support it. So hoping that there is and thank you for you and the Courthouse Legacy Foundation for all of the good work you do to restore this public wonderful historic building for all of us so thank you.
Thank you Supervisor and I wanted to say that when we go out to foundations and to private Contributors they were always very interested in whether or not the county is is partnering with us and we are always proud to tell them that yes, the county does partner with us and you partnered in the Spirit of the Ocean fountain and you're going to be partnering. We hope You already have and we hope again With the mural room so thank you very much Thank you very much
Andy, do you want to wait? OK. He's going to wait. I'm done for the day. Done for the day. We're going to go to the bullpen. All right. Last and final, that's all we have. Ken, did you want to speak now?
It's up to you.
No, it's your call. If you want to speak before general programs.
Good afternoon. I'm here today to talk to you again about our economic vitality team that I originally talked to you about back in October. As you'll recall, you had something else on your agenda that day. The room was a bit full behind me so I can certainly imagine that this was not highest on your priority list. But back in October of last year, I came to you to let you know that the seven chambers in Santa Barbara County had come together to form what really was for all practical purposes from the private sector. The first countywide economic development entity for Santa Barbara County. The idea behind this was rather than creating a new entity, a new administrative cost for everyone that the chambers would come together and we would run this organization ourselves In the six months since I came in October, we've been doing that.
We actually have two projects that we're working on right now. One of them is that we are partnering with our counterparts in the countywide economic development entities in Ventura and in San Luis Obispo counties to look at broadband speeds across a three-county area. Find areas where we have deficiencies and then work with private sector companies to get those speeds up. This is in partnership with the state PUC, we have funds coming in for that but this is the first of the efforts that we're making to try and look county wide at how we can improve the economy in the area. The second project is again with those two other organizations in the three county area. We're putting together the first entrepreneurial database for the three counties where you've got both entrepreneurs and service providers coming together so we're creating an online community for those folks to be able to interact and share.
These things are all being done currently, this organization is up and running. What we're asking for is the seed money so that we can put the administrative function in place. We can hire a staff member, we can begin to do the work on the marketing of this county that we are woefully inadequate in. Especially as we look at other counties in the state that have a county wide entity that does this. Looking at how we can look at broader based issues that are affecting business in the area. We can work together to try and address them. These are all things that you would see from an organization like this. It's high time that Santa Barbara County had one, and I think this is our best opportunity to not only build it but build it in a partnership with the business community across the counties working together to try and do this.
So I will certainly take any questions you have, but I appreciate the fact that I've been able to work with you and your staff on this, and we look forward to getting this organization up and running. Thanks. Can I get a question?
Please. You do have the Santa Maria Valley Chamber listed I'm going to give you a little bit of background on the Santa Maria energy thing. How is that progressing?
Give me an update there. Thank you, Mister Sharon. When we first started this discussion with the chambers back last summer, they were fully on board. They were actually still fully on board when it came to talk to you in October. Unfortunately, my counterpart in Santa Maria chose to remove himself back in November following The rest of us find that short-sighted. I have a sneaking suspicion that when the new leadership comes in place at the Santa Maria Chamber, they'll be back on board and we are still moving forward with this. Okay.
So is
when you say each of these is working together so they're all chipping in a piece or are there financially contributing? How's that okay, so everybody's putting money in and then the county would then also
contribute. So the plan at this point is to take the seed money that you're going to provide. We're going to work with the private sector where we have a number of folks that are good contribute to match that in the first year. Um, the idea with the chambers is, is that it's our, um, it's our administrative functions that are gonna actually make this thing work. We're not going into the cities. The cities each already have individual things they're doing an economic development. We want this to be a County wide effort so it will be private sector and County as we go forward in future years, we would look at the contribution from the county being significantly less than this. We simply want this to build to get the seed money going.
Okay.
So the contribution that the chambers are making is the manpower and the elbow grease, and not a financial contribution.
Well, the other chambers, that's correct. My chamber certainly will be because we're actually going to house the entity internally, so we'll be providing a lot in that respect. Supervisor Carball?
Thank you. I'm very pleased to see this before us. I think oftentimes we talk about what is government's role in economic development? And you hear the gamut of suggestions, you hear people say just get out of our way. Just get rid of all regulation as one extreme and then you get a different extreme coming from a different way. But I think that there's always, I think there's a role. I think it's a limited role in terms of what government could do.
But to really partner with our private sector organizations that have the pulse, that are engaged with the private sectors. That our economic engine to try to develop an economic strategy for our area is really what we hope for. And so I appreciate you and all the other chambers stepping up, I certainly don't know the solutions but to place that confidence in that partnership with the private sector.
I think that's at least what the county can do. I oftentimes struggle to find what is really The county's role in economic development and trying to define that. And I think that oftentimes, sometimes we fall short. So I'm really looking forward to the chambers working together and to work through polarizing issues to really first focus on the low hanging fruit and those issues we all do agree on. And then maybe work slowly through the challenging issues that there is dissent and different points of view on it but not get bogged down by those but Put those in abeyance and work on those on a parallel track as well. So I'm encouraged, and I hope this is something that our board finds general support
in June. Thanks to the chair supervisor. I appreciate that. And I can tell you that one of the things that I think is important to us is that we have the opportunity to get the business community to start working together in a way where we can address a lot of these issues. As you look at the efforts on a local level, there's some great organizations here. But looking at it countywide where we can break up this north-south divide and find ways for the business community to say, look these are things that we agree on that we can work together on I agree with you. I think this is going to be a great opportunity to do that.
Supervisor Farr and then Supervisor Adam and Supervisor Wolf?
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you for being here, Ken. My pleasure. And I have to say that I was very impressed with your letter and particularly when I was reading your various bullet points at least the first three are things that I have said and struggled with over the past few years because from time to time we're invited to presentations at UCSB for a lot of the work that's going on there Of course, a lot of that energy spins off into startup companies.
And it's been very disheartening to find that a lot of these bright young people coming out of the university with these great ideas really would like to stay in the area but haven't had the central point of information have found that there was competition between areas of the counties. And really didn't have the information they needed to know that if they for some reason couldn't afford to spin off to Goleta, that they might want to consider Buelton or Santa Maria or Lawbrook and be able to stay in the county. So a few years ago I actually during budget asked to have a position funded in the county for about this same cost. So it's something that I'm very interested in and along with Supervisor Carbajal I'm going to be looking at very closely when We're considering it in June.
Thank you, Mr. Chair or Madam Chair. Oh
my gosh! Mr. Adam.
Thank You madam chair. You know about a month ago when we had our initial workshop I said you know you can't just make economic development a slogan and And my cynical side tells me that's kind of what this is maybe. And between now and June, if you'd help me to understand what you're gonna do with 150,000 bucks that's not just kind of a slogan because I think people know we're here and I think people understand what a great place it would be to do business in Santa Barbara County. And I think that they also understand how difficult it And so, you know for $150,000 I'm just thinking that your intentions may be wonderful But that may not be what it takes to get business to come to Santa Barbara County. I think we have to change our image nationally globally So the people understand that it's safe to make an investment here and Your thoughts
Through the Chair and Supervisor, I absolutely understand what you're saying. And if the sole purpose of doing this is just to put $150,000 into our organizations we have more staff then it's pointless. And I can guarantee that's not what this is. Just one example, one of the things that I did in the ten years that I was in my previous organization at Bellingham Washington was to bring together the economic development practitioners in each of the cities of the county on a monthly basis And we'd say, we put the cone of silence over the room. And the idea was that we were bringing leads. If we knew we had a company that needed to expand and we couldn't have them be in one community it was better to keep them in the county and find another community that could help them out.
To actually open up and have these conversations that we don't have in this county because we are yelling at each other more often than we're working together. That's just one example of the good things I think we can do with the seed money if you'll make this happen. I would be very happy to meet with you at any time and I look forward to you returning the call when we can find a time to get together and talk about it.
Okay, great. Thank you.
Supervisor
Wolf?
Thank you Mr. Chair. Ken I'm just happy that we're at this point. This has been a long time in the making and your work with all the other chambers has been quite phenomenal so I think this is great. This will change, I believe the conversation that we have in the county. And I think the folks on the chamber are kind of the lead agents in getting the message across and if there is this perception some people may differ on that perception.
We need to make sure that the message is out there, that this is an amazing community. It's a beautiful community. We've got great schools. We've got great businesses. We've got great people. I mean, the chamber does a really good job at that and if you folks can coalesce and work together, if nothing else, That's a really good lesson for the rest of the county. And that is it, that there is a group like the chambers who can come together and do something really good for the county. So I'm looking forward to this coming back to us in June and maybe we'll have more direction for the CEO on Wednesday. But anyway thank you for all your work.
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Thank you
Supervisor. All right, I think we're done. Oh, one more speaker. Okay.
Matt Schuster?
Good afternoon I'm Matt Schuster the Executive Director for TV Santa Barbara. First I would like to thank you the County Board of Supervisors for having the foresight to establish our nonprofit about 10 years ago to ensure the access to the tools knowledge and infrastructure for people that have a voice in our community through communications While there's been an explosion in media technologies and platforms, the need for access to our communications infrastructure by our community is still increasingly vital. For instance, in 1983 90% of what we read, watched or listened to was controlled by over 50 media companies. Today that same 90% is controlled by only six companies.
These six companies own 70% of all the cable channels you see on your cable television system. And three of our four local broadcast news outlets are now under an agreement to manage and control the news by one of the companies. According to the Knight Commission on the Information Needs of Communities in a Democracy, America needs informed communities. Places where the information ecology meets people's personal and civic information needs so people have that news and information they need to take advantage of life's opportunities for themselves and their families. They need the information to fully participate in our system of self-government to be able to stand up and to be heard. Our communication system has to demonstrate values of openness, inclusion, participation, empowerment and the common pursuit of truth in the public interest.
Individuals need to have a strong capacity to engage with information An individual engagement with that information in the public life of the community needs to be promoted and encouraged. A communications information infrastructure needs to reflect the community it serves, and information today is as vital to the healthy functioning of our communities as clean air, safe streets, good schools, and public health.
Through TV Santa Barbara, you have been helping to meet these information needs. In 2013 alone, TV Santa Barbara provided almost $500,000 worth of media production equipment for the use by this community to be able to be heard. We distributed more than 1,500 original episodes and non-commercial programming that focused on this community and the topics of importance to members of this community. We provided over 400 hours of media production training to increase the ability of this community to use digital media.
And we support the efforts of area non-profit organizations with direct media support services and exposure through local programming. TV Santa Barbara continues to help this community stand up, to be heard and have a voice. As our contract expires in January 2015, we are asking for your continued support to help our community create, connect and communicate with each other through digital media. Thank you.
Questions?
Mr. Chair, what does that mean your contract expires in January 2015?
So under the cable franchise agreement that's expiring in January. We have an agreement with you to provide this service to the community that cable franchise expires in January, most likely Cox is rolling under the statewide franchise that was set up under Divka previously so we still need to negotiate those terms of the contract as we move forward.
Mr. Chair, so do you negotiate with us? Do you negotiate with Cox? Do you negotiate with the state?
We negotiate with you directly.
I'm going to go
ahead and open it up to the public. The cable company will negotiate with the state, but there's pretty much a state framework that's been established with certain parameters for nowadays. There's not much negotiation that happens anymore with the cable company on a local level. So they're the changes
So you're the public access in Santa Barbara? Correct.
We also do the educational access channel.
Okay, very good. Any other questions? We're good thank you for being here today. Okay I think that closes that portion out and we're going to Tom for is there a presentation on general counties what's up I believe we're done with today's agenda. What was non-county agency request? Oh, that was it? There is no presentation. Everybody just wanted to talk about it. Okay.
I thought we were going to have staff presentation tell us what we should listen to and not listen to. What's recommended and not recommended. All right. So we're going to listen to the people. Okay, that's different.
Yes. And as a point of clarification will do the same thing again tomorrow so they could be relatively close to the departments they might be involved with. So we have it at the end of today and at the end of tomorrow.
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Closing comments and just some good news actually. So closing comments, thank you to your board and to the departments. Tomorrow we'll be talking about public safety departments in their presentations. And also our health and human service departments. But after a long day or maybe a short day of hearing requests from the public in your departments, we had some good news at the end of last week. That 80 may just received 2.6 million dollars in grant funds to expand crisis facilities. So they'll be sending out a press release. I think the notified your board, but doctor water was speaking more to you about that tomorrow.
Okay. All right. Well with that we will adjourn and our next meeting is tomorrow at 9 o'clock right back here. ♪
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