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Good morning and welcome to the June 12, 2017 Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors first day of our budget hearings. And would you call the roll Mr.
Allen? Mr. Adam? Here. Mr. Lavinino? Here! Mr. Williams? Ms. Wolfe? Here. Ms. Hartman?
Ms. Miyasato do we have a CEO's report today? Not this morning. All right moving to public comment for matters not on today's agenda and we are allowing one person to go forward with an item because he has to get back to work so.
Chair Hartman, members of the board we have two requests we're gonna start with Peter Morin and then Mr. Caldwell
Thank you for letting me speak. Many years ago we had three people die on the streets of Santa Barbara in the middle of winter At that point, a group of advocates got together and sent two of us. I came and Dr. Lynn Jahnke to address the supervisors about the need for the warming centers. The next week 20 people came and asked for the same thing. The next week a couple of hundred came and asked for the same thing. This is an extraordinary program. It involves the county, it involves the churches, it involves volunteers Given the cost of other programs, it's relatively inexpensive and it literally saves lives. There was a point at which during those proceedings many years ago Sarah McCune Whose influence I do not have got up and called the supervisors murderers or said you would be murderers if you didn't go forward with this program.
I don't have that temerity but I will say if you don't go forward with the program, you will be probably costing people their lives. Having said that I'll just move on very quickly to the jail ride program which we began years ago. I don't know where that stands at the moment for a long time that was privately run and then it was handed over to the county who asked the sheriff to run that program What that involves is when people are let out of jail after the buses stop running, ordinarily they have to walk seven miles back to town regardless of what the weather is cold or rainy.
It's very dangerous It is destructive to their health and it is totally unfair to hold people in the jail, release them at midnight or three in the morning and expect them to walk seven miles back to town. I'm not even sure it's legal to do that but I beseech you to keep that program running because that too saves lives and is terribly important to the indigent and the otherwise helpless. Thank you very much.
Mr. Caldwell?
Madam Chair, members of the Board, Andy Caldwell representing CoLab. Some of the things that we believe are missing from your discussions as far as we can tell over this next day or so is a five-year plan. You already know what your pension obligations are going to be during that time. And we believe that part of what you should be doing right now is planning on not just the cuts you're trying to negotiate this year but in years 2, 3, 4 and 5.
Because as you know you have actually some quote unquote enhancements this year and we don't understand how you could even Consider contemplate that. We didn't see a JAWS chart in the book we think it should be in the book because in years there's one time I went back with Jim Leponis looking for a 15 year old book and that's all we had is not in the book it's going to probably get lost over time The other elephant in the room is your pensions. There's actually no plan that we've seen as of yet to deal with the pensions and this is what really is driving your inability Give services to the public, your inability to maintain your infrastructure and the reason you're driving 100% cost recovery for every program imaginable if you can wring those payments from the public.
And we believe that if you don't tackle this, this is not gonna just engulf the county it's engulfing cities, school districts in the state of California. And we don't understand how it is that people of the private sector are relying on Social Security, which is a maximum of $32,000 a year. What gives the county the moral imperative to say that our employees and like for instance in SEIU will not just get social security but we will give a pension that we can't afford to pay for?
Why is your family more important than our family? Again, Social Security $32,000 a year max private sector. The general public. But you maintain the right, the prerogative and the moral high ground that you will give a county pension and social security to your employees when you know darn well you can't afford it And that we end up paying for it in terms of less services, less infrastructure and higher fees.
Who is serving who? Are you still public servants or is the servants, the public serving you? It's a moral imperative that you answer that question because you're coming to the point now that you're not even monitoring felons with probation.
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That concludes public comment.
Thank you Mr. Allen so we're turning now to our introduction for the budget overview.
Good morning Chair Hartman and board members and before we begin the budget hearings today I did have an announcement I forgot to make it's a moment of levity before we get into this serious, I'd like to say happy birthday Mike Gazunia County Council. I'm sure he'll kill me later. So as we, as you know today begins the first day of our budget work or budget hearings and before I begin I would like to acknowledge and thank all our departments our department directors and all their staff for their work and commitment in preparing and producing balanced budgets for their departments. I appreciate all your work. Thank you very much. And I want to express my gratitude also to the auditor controller and his staff Auditor Controller Filotti Betsy Schaefer, Kyle Slattery, Jeremy Sturtz, Wyeth Jorgensen and as well as Rochelle Zanini, Amy Tom and Robert Geis.
And of course my own staff Jeff Rapwell who's been here less than six months has dived in with great care and concern and expertise I appreciate his work and his staff Paul Clemente, John Giasing, Shauna Jorgensen Richard Morgantini and borrowed from Community services Andrew Myung and AJ Kinovaeva thank you all for all your work throughout the year and particularly the last several months. And also thanks to Terry, Matt, Dennis and Gina for providing the overall support in the office.
So we will begin today is the first day as I mentioned. We have Wednesday as well as Friday planned if those days are needed we will take them So here's the agenda. I'll give a brief overview and then Jeff will provide greater detail about the contents of the recommended budget department presentations on updates will be limited to those indicated on your agenda given in-depth presentations were given in April However you may ask any questions of any department and they may still want to present or speak to your board on their budgets during that time.
Time is also agendized for your deliberation and possible amendment or alteration of the recommended budget. And following that we'll be asking for your boards actions to adopt the budget. Here's our timeline as you know we've been working on this throughout the year and provided for opportunities over the last seven months for your board to provide direction input on the process or the contents of the recommended budget.
And we had lengthy workshops in April. We released a budget in May and we are here today in June. The recommended budget, as you know, presents a balanced budget as we are required to produce a balanced budget by law. Our operating revenues are $1.79 billion. Operating expenditure is $1 .73 billion and this recommended budget requires reduction of full-time employees about 187.7 FTE.
And I also wanted to mention that there was an update provided to your board on additional revenues and Mr. Frapwell will discuss that, and we also have Mr. Holland who'll be giving an update as part of Mr. Frapwell's presentation. So for 2017, 18 and beyond as you know we've had to take necessary reductions to balance the budget countywide. And this is the first of several years where we're looking ahead at challenges and these are challenges that we've talked about over the last six months seven months so the drivers of our challenges as you know are increased salary and wage increases plus pension costs And we have higher costs of providing state and federal programs, and we are able to receive revenue for reimbursement.
We have shortfalls in our public safety and mental health areas which is not new. And much of our new general fund is already being committed to board priorities. Yet even with these challenges, this recommended budget is able to continue the board's highest priorities and prior commitments. And that is funding for the operations of the Northern Branch Jail. That's slated to open in 2019.
The funding plan as you recall sets aside ongoing general fund every year. We're at $9 million funding for 17-18 and that will continue. As you recall, the operating costs are estimated at $18 million ongoing and our funding plan will get us there.
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Madam Chair yes I'm sorry to interrupt Miss Misato. I'm having a hard time finding, I'm on tab 8 Can you tell me where this PowerPoint
is located? I believe we had an old PowerPoint and then an updated PowerPoint. I grabbed the updated one and it doesn't seem to match this.
So I think in tab 8 there were probably two presentations, my presentation and the budget director's presentation I think that this morning when the staff provided an update to tab 8 they said it replaces the whole tab 8 and that was incorrect. It only replaced the budget directors so Shauna has other copies? Thank you. I apologize thank you for pointing that out.
Just give us a few minutes and our staff will trade out the correct PowerPoints. Okay we're on slide six of that PowerPoint. Are we okay? Thank you. So as I was saying, even with the challenges that I described this recommended budget is able to continue your highest priorities and that is funding of the Northern Branch Jail continuing to provide more funding to the Fire District And that's an additional $8 million next year over the base of 2012-13.
Increasing deferred maintenance, and Mr. Frappell will go over that in more detail. And maintaining our commitments to our employees through our labor agreements. We also have financial plans and we continue to be committed to those paying off our unfunded liabilities. We have over a billion dollars in unfunding pension liability which would be paid down by 2030 if all assumptions hold intact.
Our retiree health unfunded liability is $113 million and again that will be paid down about the same amount of time. The board has rebuilt its strategic reserve or rainy day fund For facing future financial challenges and this year as you know the board had agreed that we should not continue to add to that fund so we're about 7.4% of our operating reserve and typically we try to aim for 8%.
And the county has incurred very little debt which is also assists in our financial stability going forward. We developed the budget with this guidance which we've used in previous years and that is again continue the board's prior commitments which I just spoke about. Maintain our reserves at prudent levels, again the strategic reserve is almost fully funded.
Address needs and mandates which we have done. Look at technology investments and ways we can change our business to be more efficient Look to the future when we're making immediate decisions. Minimize reductions and impacts to the public to the degree we can, and address any new and emerging needs. So what is before you is a recommended budget that attempts to strike a balance among the necessary reductions that were made in this budget to balance the budget, meeting our most critical needs and the board priorities, and again planning for future budget gaps which we know will occur.
So overall, all funds. Net of restorations and expansions as recommended budget has approximately $30 million in reductions to close the budget gap. And as you see 68% is a non-general fund departments mostly the Department of Social Services. I do want to point out that something about this budget, we are providing more ongoing general fund contribution to the Departments of Behavioral Wellness and Social Services than we did in 16-17. I talk about a rebalancing strategy and that's focusing our resources on the board's priorities and our most immediate needs so this budget does that it basically rebalances funds from other general fund departments providing more ongoing funds for social services and behavioral wellness Key issues looking in 17-18 and ahead, we talked about pension funding.
And something to note is when we began this process after the retirement board reduced the rate of return and changed assumptions, we thought we'd have about a $10 million cost in the 17- 18 budget for pension, increased costs. That's about 7.3 now and it's mostly because we've had staffing reductions. But on average, we will see an $8 million increase every year over the next four years until it levels out.
We talked about mental health inpatient services. This has been a continuing issue, longer stays at the PUF, more court ordered placements than we've seen in the past and higher demand. And there's different programs in the works now on how we can continue to try to reduce those costs. We talked about the social safety net that the state is reducing or putting caps on the amount of funding we receive for the same level of service And also that we've seen a reduction in allocation for CalWORKs and CalFresh, which is affecting the Department of Social Services.
We're seeing more retirements of experienced employees and although our overall churn rate or retirement rate or rate of vacancy is about 7%, which is normal, what we're seeing is more experienced employees leaving and that has a significant impact on the organization. We're improving our public safety dispatch. We have a study that's almost finalized will be to your board this summer and as we've said, we set aside Public Safety Prop 172 funds to address any potential needs that arise from that study We have a growing list of capital needs across the county and last year your board set aside money for potential bond issue. General services will be coming back to your board in July with a list of high priority needs that might be eligible for debt financing.
This year we also acknowledge that we will be needing to upgrade our radio coverage. We have a diverse environment for public safety radio communications that are at different stages in their life cycle and known areas where coverage has not kept pace with development, so this recommended budget includes funding for that and Jeff will talk about that but it recognizes we will need a comprehensive long-term system upgrade that general services will work on with our public safety departments.
And we know road funding has been an issue for the county, for all local government. With a reduction in state funding it put pressure on our general fund to contribute more. The new gas tax will result in about $2.8 million next year rising to about 7.2 in the next year and we'll talk more about roads funding when Jeff talks about maintenance funding. So a couple of months ago we came to the board with countywide work initiatives and these are things we suggested for focus from many department or multi-department work initiatives.
One is allowing, proposing an ordinance to allow cultivation of cannabis and we have an ad hoc committee as you know and staff will be bringing an update in July to the board. We talked about enhancing our public safety dispatch services and that continues. As well as reducing the inmate jail population, and particularly those with severe mental illness. The sheriff has started a stepping up initiative with community members and departments to look at how we can reduce mentally ill in jail in different ways to do that so I applaud him for that effort.
Also the Community Corrections Partnership The CCP through AB 109 funds has proposed funds for an MHRC, a mental health rehabilitation center. Funds were allocated through that process for capital costs and some operational costs so that would help divert individuals from the jail. And again we're continuing to look at how we can reduce inpatient costs and something will be coming to your board this summer to look at different options.
Again, we continue to strive to improve the organization. We talked to your board in April about our internal facing strategic plan which is ways how we can be better at what we do every day in the organization making technology investments where we can and through the budget rebalancing process look at ways that we can implement those suggestions and one was looking at program audits so we'll be back to your board with those specifics after the budget Looking ahead, as you know we want to be proactive about how we shape our future and not be a victim to these cost increases. Continue to have an engaged and accountable workforce.
Make responsible decisions that balance the short and long term, not overspend now which may cause greater financial harm tomorrow, and to become a sound and sustainable organization. So we've been using this theme of one county, one future. And there's a story behind it and I want to share that story. All the department heads got together in December and we began discussing how we were going to address the challenges over the next five years.
We talked about various things and I mentioned that I had just been at a meeting with the state OAS director Mark Ghirlarducci and he told our water purveyors to address the drought. We had to think of it as one county, one fight And the fight was obviously overcoming the drought. But it's the same for us. We're not fighting Mother Nature, but we are fighting for our future and fighting for our own tendencies to believe that this is just like the recession.
That property taxes will come around and help us. They have. Property taxes are stable and up so our challenge is our expenses and we will need to reduce rebalance and find new revenue in the future And we can, we can do this. But our practical reality is also that we'll need to do less but better and to tell our partner agencies as well in the community that we must do less but we will always strive to do better Through greater coordination and connection among our departments, not defaulting into siloed thinking.
Building upon the strengths of our departments working together and with the community. Rebalancing and focusing on our highest priorities, priorities of the board. And continuing collaboration with common focus goals. I used to say we can be a great organization and financially stable but really We need to be a financially resilient organization so that we can be a great organization.
And with that I'm going to hand it over to Jeff who's going to walk through specifics of the recommended budget.
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Good morning Madam Chair, members of the board. So as we walk through the budget I'm going to kind of brief you on what's included here in the recommended budget and we'll talk a little bit about some changes that we've seen in the last few days and then we'll move into deliberations on this afternoon or Wednesday or Friday depending on how the course that the hearings go In summary, the budget hearing materials that you have in front of you kind of incorporate not only the printed recommended budget book but the binder that your board's been provided.
It has the countywide budget summary a recap of service level reductions that you'll find in the executive summary. It also includes CEO recommended restorations and expansions which we'll talk about at more length General fund key discretionary fund balances as we'll discuss an update on increased property taxes. Departmental presentations as required or necessary will wrap up with board deliberations and the recommended actions in your this is the binder that you have in front of you and the tabs that are included so the budget letter and budget resolution or tab one and you can see Both on the table of contents for your binder as well as here on the slide, the other contents of your budget hearing materials.
In looking at the county's budget as it is currently recommended and printed in the recommended budget we have total operating revenues of $1,079.1 million with expenses of 1,073,000,007 with a net 5.4 going into fund balances Our staffing FTEs is moving from in the current fiscal year 16-17 an adopted level of $4,400 to $4213. As we look at the recommended budget and countywide revenue by category You can see that intergovernmental revenue continues to be the largest source of revenue received by the county.
As a political subdivision of the state we are here as partially to operate state and federal programs on their behalf, but taxes at the top line show all taxes about $303.4 million dollars and we'll talk about more than a second
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you. Charge of services being the third largest source of revenues coming at $273 million again for total operating revenues of one billion seventy nine million dollars. Looking at operating revenues, you can see here we break this down by fund the largest fund of course being the general fund but you'll see there At 37 percent includes most of the departments except for fire, health and human services, most of public works and all the internal service funds IT risk management vehicles utilities etc.
If you're looking at just the general fund we often do is then blow out to the side in a secondary pie the breakdown of discretionary revenues those those revenues which your board has some degree at least of discretion how to spend And the other revenues which are earmarked for special purposes. As we continue to look at discretionary revenues, the most significant source of our discretionary revenues are our property taxes. So property taxes of the significant property taxes total about $203 million. We also get $6 million of RDA property tax that's an ongoing revenue source For a total of $209.6 million and then you can see the additional other significant sources of 10.6 for the cost allocation services these are these are recap or recouping costs from the non general fund departments for cost incurred by the General Fund to support them our local sales tax about $10.7 million our TOT of $11.8 million kind of all other wrapped up into 5.1 So you can see we had about a rate of growth in our discretionary revenues of $8 million or 3.3% from the adopted level in the current fiscal year.
Moving to expenditures, we have expenditures as I mentioned of 1 billion 73 million and you can see here as we break this down by where we spend our money between the functional categories you'll see that by largest percentage at 36% is the Health and Human Services departments Followed by public safety at 29%, 315.5 million, general governmental services and support services follows 166.1 or 16% then community resources and public facilities.
As Mona mentioned, the budget does take into consideration and fully meet your board's prior commitments for the northern branch jail operations. The fire tax shift, deferred maintenance in capital infrastructure, our agreements with the labor organizations maintaining a fiscally prudent strategic reserve And also addresses the plans to address unfunded pension and retiree health care liabilities.
Looking at retirement this is a chart will show you kind of our retirement contribution over the last number of years and you can see that in the current year adopted budget 2016-17 we'd estimated a retirement contribution to SB CSRS of 123.8 million dollars Which is growing to 131.1 million in the recommended budget. As we look at maintenance funding, your board's aware that your board adopted an 18% maintenance funding strategy formula in June 2014 and this chart again reflects what's in the recommended budget it does not reflect some changes and we'll talk about those a little later in the presentation We have a baseline funding for maintenance of totaling 2.3 million dollars and you can see that's broken down between Public Works, General Services and the Community Services Department.
For the 18 percent funding we have two types. We have the ongoing funding that is driven by the formula adopted by your board and currently that's historically been distributed at 50 percent for the Public Works Department for roads The recommended budget as printed also includes allocation of $3.4 million in one-time money, again broken down at the 50%, 35% and 15%.
In addition to that, we do have allocated in the recommended budget $700,000 for potential debt service on a COP that your board will be asked to consider later in the fiscal year. The 700,000 represents roughly six months of debt service. As we look at capital...
Mr. Fretwell?
Yes.
Supervisor Wolf has a question for you. Thank you Madam Chair. This particular chart is very important to me and I had submitted a BIF requesting information from the past two years on the maintenance total. So, I appreciate getting that information Mr. Fratwell. The one question that I had asked in a BIF was if we have a plan as to where this money will be spent? And I have not received that yet.
But a couple of things I wanted to bring up, and one has to do with what you said. And we had discussed this in a meeting about historically that the money has been allocated 50%, 35% and 15%. But in actuality, those percentages were just last year and then the year before that. The first year that we started this funding policy it was 50% public works and then 50% general services and community services department So I just think at some point as we maintain this 18% maintenance funding that it should come back to the board as a policy decision as to how we're going to allocate that money.
Did you want to say something?
Supervisor Wolf to the chair, I completely agree we should come back to the board. I think that was made because we were seeing such reductions in state revenue for roads and so we can have that discussion with your board when we come back with budget policies in December. Okay thank you for that.
And I'm glad you brought up the issue of roads because the baseline which we put in 500,000 1.3 and 500,000 in particular the public works piece of that was because as I recall we were seeing a significant decline in state funding for roads. Now I think further on in our budget presentation You're going to be telling us that we're getting two point eight million dollars additional funding for roads.
But yet that's not and I guess I understand why it's not part of this chart because it's not part of that 18 percent but I think it is important to note that we are getting that much more money for roads finally in your little asterisk down at the bottom It says additional fiscal year 2017-18 funding is in excess of the policy by $4,100,000. And I appreciate that you've put that in there because I think some people have said that this is our policy and the fact is is that those bar lines that we were looking at in the past were just simply projections And not the policy. So I'm glad that you specified that, because what we are doing is adding $3.4 million of one-time funds into this maintenance funding that is really on top of our policy for the 18%.
Thank you Madam Chair.
And Supervisor Lavanino has a comment as well.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd just like if Scott McGaulpin is available for just a quick question. You know we're talking about additional state funding of $2 million and we're talking about two or three million dollars here there. Do you have any idea what It would keep it would cost to keep the PCI. The same this year's last year.
Madam chair survives 11 you know what we reported in the workshops was to maintain the existing PCI of 58 that would require 13 million dollars OK so just in roads alone just for payments correct.
Supervisor Adam and then supervisor will.
And last year what did the deferred maintenance grow by? Last year. I could help you with that if you need it.
I think it went up about 30 million dollars. It went from like 250 million dollars unfunded to 280. OK so
these numbers are not moving the needle That's correct. Yeah OK thank you.
Supervisor Wolk I just had a feeling that PCI was going to come up in this conversation and I'd like just to remind my colleagues that unfortunately we don't have PCIs for our human services. It would be really nice to have that because I'm sure if we were to have a PCI for social services, we'd probably see that we need to incorporate additional funding To maintain our safety net, not just our roads. Thank you Madam Chair. Supervisor
Lavanino?
Well I would also argue that...I don't know if you read in the paper but we had a gentleman that actually died on one of our roads yesterday because although it was his...he went around a barrier But that Orchard Gary Road in my district has been washed out and it's been washed out for over a month. And I know public works is number one priority, but it's not like these roads do not have an impact on our population.
And would also point the fact that we spend over 300 million dollars a year in social services and mental health services to the public When a very small fraction is going into our maintenance funding so. I don't think it's that we're not making that a priority that is the number one priority in this County his social services every 4 years we spend over a billion dollars and I don' see getting any better.
So. I guess that's what these priorities are going to be all about. And will work this out tomorrow but
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And Supervisor Wolf and then back to Mr. Crapwell.
Thank you Madam Chair, I think what happened in that accident was tragic and I know we have put aside additional million dollars for emergency road funding and I wouldn't disagree that some of the roads and I'm glad that's first on the list needs to be done But if we want to talk about fatalities or I guess I could bring up child abuse cases, adult protective services and adults who are being abused. So we can go down the list of horrible things that are happening in our community and I think what I'm trying to say Supervisor Labadino is that we need to take a balanced approach.
Thank you.
Recapped in the recommended budget and also adopted by your board in the capital improvement plan. A number of weeks ago is the CIP, and you can see here in the capital summary how that breaks down between projects perhaps more clearly. Well I guess this is a chart that actually has the numbers. About 40.3% or $29.7 million are anticipated for the Northern Ranch Jail 39.6% or $29.2 million invested by Public Works on various projects, and 9.4% with general services and 4% budgeted for community services.
Here's a summary of kind of the major significant planned projects. You can see the Northern Ranchdale, Fire Station 41 rebuild in Cuyama, Goleta Beach Access Bridge Since we had workshops in April, there have been several changes to the recommended budget which will go through Your board on May 16th provided direction to the CEO's office to provide full year funding for the AOT or Laura's Law program within behavioral wellness. So that is included here in the recommended budget. $275,000 roughly is funded from the general fund and the remaining cost of the program is from other departmental sources.
In addition, since the workshops we've had the Governor's May Revise has been released. We've had a chance to work with county departments to understand the impact of the elements of the Governor's May Revise. Initially it identified $2 million one-time general fund costs going into the IHSS program That's been taken away from the program as necessary for the upcoming fiscal year. It comes with a cautionary note, however, in that the county's local share for IHSS will be increasing as a percentage over the next several years. So we're going to talk a little bit more about that at the conclusion of our hearings.
In addition, the governor has made revised eliminating the need for the contribution, as I mentioned, of $2 million and we'll see costs in the upcoming years. With respect to service level reductions, we talked extensively about service level reductions in the budget workshops. We went department by department so I don't plan on doing that today although we're certainly prepared to do that if your board would like They are captured in the executive summary and the recommended budget as well as obviously were part of the record for the budget workshops.
But in total, service level reductions identified by departments amounted to about $39.5 million or 304.3 FTE. Obviously not all these reductions are being recommended And we'll go through the expansion and restorations recommended by the CEO's office. Again, I won't go through all of the silver slub reductions. I will spare you that. As we look as Monja mentioned our really goal as we develop Recommend a budget was to look holistically at all the services provided by the county as well as our fiduciary responsibility to maintain the infrastructure that our citizens rely on every day.
And so we identified at the conclusion of workshops that there is about seven point four million dollar of ongoing sources within the general fund But understanding that we have deficits in the upcoming years, understanding that there will continue to be pressure on escalating costs and with revenues not especially federal state revenues not keeping pace with those that cost escalation. Our recommendation to your board and what is built into the recommended budget really breaks down that 7.4 of ongoing sources and treats 4.3 million For ongoing funds and three point the remaining 3.1 million for one time and so that as we look at how we allocated resources and how we identified our recommendations for expansions and restorations it was really built on this premise here.
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Supervisor Wolf has a question for you, Mr. Proper. Thank you Madam Chair. So just to be clear the $7.4 million could have been considered ongoing but due to potential fiscal constraints there was a decision to basically say that part of that is one time.
Supervisor Wolf of the chair that's correct. We certainly have enough intel as we look forward in the upcoming fiscal years to know that we will have shortfalls and what we're trying to do is minimize the impact of those shortfalls than they have in the out years and plan prudently.
Supervisor Lavanino OK go ahead.
So we look at the CEO recommended restoration expansions here. Here's the basis for those as we looked at them we looked at new and existing mandates or requirements board established policies and priorities significant fiscal legal health or safety risk reliability well documented need based on past studies or data and self-funded or cost covering initiatives You recall in our presentation at workshops we'd identified roughly five point eight million dollars that we had built into the workshop kind of budget as we presented.
And those covered both the geomedical contract for impact for sheriff and probation roughly two million dollars as well as additional resources for probation to address the new mandate, the PREA or Prison Rape Elimination Act for four FTEs within juvenile hall. Then social services as I mentioned it had identified the two million potential one-time need for the MOE increase which has now been changed and then about $900,000 for CalFresh and the ISSS MOE increases.
And finally it did restore to full MOE requirement the contribution to the courts. Moving forward now as we look at the recommendation recommended restorations expansions in the recommended budget Again, this is based on feedback from your board during the workshops. It includes one half FTE or $89,000 for County Council and then District Attorney included an extra help DA for the MP13 case as well for $80,000 as well as a one-time money for the replacement of the case management system within the DA's office In probation, we restored two FTEs for the Prop 36 Substance Abuse Crime Prevention Act caseloads.
And the department was able to find $175,000 in non-general fund dollars to do the remodel at Los Prados Boys Camp. Within sheriff There is $1.25 million or equivalent of 10 FTEs that set aside in a pool for the department to draw against to mitigate employee lost time due to illness and injury, workers comp cases. In addition, the IV foot patrol, the recommended budget restores approximately three-fourths of the service level impact identified by the Sheriff's Department for 1.4 million dollars It also restored funding for the community resource deputy within Isla Vista and established a pool of funds for the sheriff to draw on for additional court security requirements above the amount of funds that they get from the state for that purpose.
Within community services, there are a number of changes or Community Park $60,000 for ongoing maintenance The CCE launch phase three at $300,000. Additional funding for libraries at 241,000 dead tree clearing within CSD for 200,000 and parks deferred maintenance 310,000 as well as the homeless shelters of homeless 20,000 but in general services we have the maintenance of 175 thousand dollars increase Also in one-time dollars for maintenance of $1,190,000.
For the Isla Vista Community Center maintenance cost $18,000 and as we briefed your board during workshops the need to invest in the public safety radio system of $925,000 within Public Works we show a million dollars added coming from the Strategic Reserve That is the local match required to bring down state and federal dollars from FEMA and Cal OES for the storm damages in the January and February winter storms.
It also includes additional funding for roads maintenance. There are 254 ongoing and 1.7 million in one time.
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If I may interrupt, I just wanted to go back to the previous the homeless shelters we've received a great deal of mail and email and this is a full restoration is that correct?
Manager that is correct. Within fire, the recommended budget includes an augmentation of $392,000. Again this is not general fund dollars but it is within their district funds. $392,000 for additional fire chief position as well as a civilian inspector of $147,000 Finally within behavioral wellness We have added 1.5 million of ongoing resources to restore 19 IMD beds, increase that total beds from 28 to 47 per day. That's with ongoing dollars that recognizes our historical need for that level of care for patients and it also includes 600,000 in one-time money For additional 7 IMD beds as well as additional 2 hospital beds for $600,000 as well.
It also recognizes and builds in the 1.1 million coming from as part of a grant from non general fund dollars as well in the recommended budget. Social Services rounds out the balance of our restoration expansions. Here we have additional $450,000 for ongoing match required for the local managed share of costs associated with the IHSS provider wage increases, 450,000 and also includes one-time money of 106,000 and 386,004 CalFresh match for both the current year funding as well as potential drawdown of additional monies And so that concludes if you see their total recommendation for restoration and expansions of 5.3 million ongoing and about 9.4, 9.5 million for one-time dollars.
As we look at key general fund discretionary fund balances this chart continues to be a fan favorite So I'll walk through this. Then the behavioral wellness behavior wellness there is a million dollars identified and set aside for your board to allocate to behavioral wellness should that be necessary during the fiscal year. Historically this has been necessary we think this is this practice of putting this million dollar society as prudent within the 18 percent for maintenance essentially all those funds have been allocated.
There's that residual 7000 within capital You'll see there's $700,000. That's the $700,000 identified for debt service should your board approve the issuance of COPs mid-year. Our strategic reserve at 29.9 million dollars As we mentioned before, litigation has been briefed to your board during the workshops. It's being recommended to increase by $2.8 million for a total of $2 .7 million in consultation with county council.
Mr. Fretwell, Supervisor Lavinino has a question here.
Mr Fretwell on the strategic reserve, so it says per budget policy but So we eliminated the budget policy though that said that we need to be at a certain percentage
level, correct? Correct. The chair of your budget policy or the policies set by the board is to maintain its future reserve at 8%. And in developing, setting the guidelines for the development of the current year budget your board said we will suspend adding to the strategic reserve. So that means as revenues grow then that percentage funding comes down and then we're also recommending a million dollar use as local match.
Okay so at the end when we get through with this budget how short will we be dollar wise in the strategic reserve of where our former policy would have us at?
I believe it'll be 2.4, so I think we're at 7.4% in lieu of the 8%, so about $2.4 million. Thank you. Program stabilization you'll see there is identified having a recommended fund balance of $1,250,000. We think this is important to maintain as we look forward and have uncertainties regarding the out years for additional pension cost increases. Finally down in deferred maintenance, it has been practiced at least recently to leave $500,000 for allocation mid-year should something major and significant come up. That would be available for your board to allocate mid fiscal year.
Within the Northern Branch Jail Operations Fund you'll see that we're increasing that by 9.1 million dollars going into ongoing revenues going into that. That's per your boards adopted plan One-time funding in emerging issues of 1.25 million dollars that is the Essentially the funds that are being held They came from prop 172 sales tax those that money's being held as Mona mentioned for your boards Use should they need be necessary when we figure out the dispatch how we move forward on dispatch for public safety? I And contingencies here at two point, roughly $2 million and the unassigned fund balance of 213,000.
That's all but $171 of that will be part of the closing actions. When working without a controller, that number, the 213,000 needs to be set aside for into a special fund As it relates to Difka. And so that really is not available either.
And Mr. Pratt well Supervisor Adam has a question.
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I'm weighing what I got to say here because you're new. You know I think the strategy and I'm sure you didn't come up with it because you're new but the strategy of holding five hundred thousand In that deferred maintenance account is sort of a bait and switch because you know that money was supposed to go to deferred maintenance which we have a plethora of identified things that have been.
Been. You know outlined and we know exactly what they are and we don't have anywhere near enough money to fill that hole. And you know I have since this whole program started been encouraging department heads in charge of doing so to spend that money Just as quickly as possible and efficiently as possible and put it put it to work. And if we've been telling these department heads, see nobody's ever told me this before that we've been holding that back in case there's an emergency and we know that there's going to be an emergency because in fact we know that there's going to be multiple emergencies because we haven't maintained anything for 20 or 30 years And so now things are starting to fall apart all the time and we have known big ticket items that are coming at us like air conditioning systems and the like.
So this is really disappointing to me, to find out that we're holding a half million dollars out of that which has been identified and sent out to the departments As deferred maintenance money with which to attack that deferred maintenance problem even though it's horribly inadequate. I've said many many times and we're holding it back in case of emergency. That really is disappointing to me
CEO Miyasato
Supervisor Adam, through the chair. So first of all this maintenance money was set aside by previous boards from several years ago before I was here with the county and that was for general services and CSD. The board can allocate the funds. But the reason we held 500,000 back was actually after talking to those departments and Mr Pontus was a general services director at the time said things are always going to come up they use their allocation as wisely as they can but one year we had things with the generator it was like a million dollars of cost that This wasn't done so this wasn't done because we wanted in budget to hold money back. It was just talking to the departments Do you want to set something aside? Because this is really to be allocated between parks and GS and it was really so that rather just allocating it them directly Maybe some years GS is going to need at some year's park So but the board can allocate if you wish to allocate it.
Well, I thought we did I mean, how deeply do we have to go to allocate the thing before we're not withholding it and doing things that we should be doing out of contingency or strategic reserve because there are emergencies?
Madam Chair.
Supervisor Lavanino.
Well but the estimated balance right now is what we have in their 6,000 bucks. OK so we did spend it down this year correct. So I think they're saying they want to hold it but they're spending it anyway. So that I would also feel pain if at the end of next year there's another half million just sitting there that we didn't spend because we didn't hit the big emergency when there was a bunch of emergencies along the way. So looks like this year we did spend it
well I realize that and it got spent on, I get it. It gets spent on things that have been deferred because now they're catastrophic failure however you know it just seems like that's doing what we should be doing in the first place instead of you know Doing what we thought was or I thought maybe you guys all thought something else when we voted on it But I thought were identifying X amount of money even as inadequate as it is to be spent on known items that were have been deferred and so You know to be starting to use this as Responsible strategy Instead of just giving adequate budgets to these two departments or three departments, to do what they are supposed to be doing. You see what I'm saying? It's kind of a bait and switch thing that I did.
I am a little disappointed, well I'm a lot disappointed by
it. We have a lot of lights up here but first CEO Miyasato and then I'd like to say something and then Supervisor Wolf and Supervisor Williams.
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Board members, so we don't want it to appear as a bait and switch. That's not our intention. The money is always spent. The departments are not shy at all to coming back and saying at mid-year after mid-year hey I need the money because I have these maintenance issues. And really this is supposed to be split between parks CSD and general services rather than allocate it now.
Let's see what happens through the year. It does get spent, but if there is concern about that then we can certainly allocate it now or we can figure out to whom it goes to and let them arm wrestle for it. But the purpose was just as the year goes by either of them can come to us and say we have more emergent needs beyond our budget.
And I'd like to say that I endorse this strategy, I think it's a good one. We have a plan for various known repairs and allocations we need to make but there are always unexpected things and this is what that's for so I support that. Supervisor
Wolf? Thank you Madam Chair. Mr. Frappel this $4 million that is proposed as an increase, that's not part of that 18% maintenance funding chart that we saw earlier right? This is on top of that or is it inclusive?
Supervisor Wolf, the chair I believe it is inclusive. This chart is really an accounting chart and so what happens you have funds that go in and out of these different funds but ultimately
Because I know before we had the 18% policy, we had this deferred maintenance policy that was separate from 18%. And so I just wanted to clarify that this is an additional $4 million that is being set aside for deferred maintenance.
CEO Miyasato. Supervisor for the chair you're correct it's addition in addition to the 18 percent calculated deferred maintenance. OK thank you.
And supervisor Williams turned his light off so we're ready to go.
Late last week, Friday in fact, we had a conversation actually Thursday afternoon late. We had a conversation with Mr. Holland and Mr. Filate with respect to a revision in the estimated property tax or the total A-V assessment valuation for the county. And so based on that discussion on Thursday and working with the auditor's office on Friday Our office worked to identify the additional resources or revenues accruing to the general fund.
And so, in a moment we'll ask Mr. Holland to kind of provide you an update on even this update but as of numbers we had on Friday It was looking like the assessed valuation for the county was growing from an assumed 4.5% level to 5.75%. And with that 1.25% growth increase, higher than what we originally anticipated here's what it looks like. So with respect to property taxes accruing to the general fund of $2.2 million, we have as current board policy 25 percent of the growth goes to fire district that subtracts $394,000 from that leaving general fund portion of 1.8 million dollars In applying the 18% maintenance policy that reduces it by $320,000 for a net increase in available ongoing resources and proper tax resources to the general fund of 1.5 million.
Mr. Holland is going to update this in a minute but based on those numbers That's what this revised maintenance chart would have looked like. You'll see just the, we did not increase the total amount of funds going to deferred maintenance projects but rather changed the amount from one time in between one time and ongoing so that's what this chart would have looked like very similar other than the shift at the 320.
So as we conclude hearings... Madam
Chair, oh Supervisor Wolk. Thank you I'm sorry Mr. Preble can you just go back and explain that where did we put that extra $300,000?
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Supervisor Wolf the chair. We did not increase in our revised recommendations increased funding for deferred maintenance but rather shows show the breakdown of the ongoing versus one time maintenance funds splitting differently. So if you compare and contrast this chart to the early one you would have seen that in the ongoing sources So
what happened to that $320,000?
It gets as we apply and consider that ongoing instead of one time. What happens is it uses 320 of the ongoing kind of bucket of money but increases because it frees up three hundred twenty thousand dollars in in one time money I'm sorry to say that correctly so ongoing. It just changed kind of the color of money if you will We made the ongoing chart be 3,320,000. It used to say 3 million and instead of 3.4 for one time it now shows 3,080,000 so it did not increase total.
I understand. So we have less one time going into this with this revised chart? Correct. By about three hundred thousand. OK and that's what you're going to talk about in a later slide right now I'm understanding this thank you. Supervisor Lavinia
Thank you Madam Chair are we going to discuss the fire tax shift update during fire? Are we going to because I don't see it anywhere further than your thing and I noticed it was mentioned so I was wondering if we were gonna get that at all
Supervisor Lavinier, through the Chair. The increase to fire, roughly $400,000 will be built in as one of the closing actions in the adoption of the resolution that showed those additional resources going to and increasing the budget for the Fire District.
So my question though is and I guess we can get this for further. I can put it as a bit for whatever, but I'm just I'd like to see an update of where we are. To where we need to be and how much sooner we're going to get there than we thought we were going
At the conclusions of hearings and after departments have had their opportunity to present or your board ask questions of them as well as members of the public. We will be going through a revision to the recommended budget process with your board. What we refer to is detachment E process but as we currently stand today if we were to this is what the changes and adjustments to the recommended budget so let me just kind of walk you through You'll see the first line there is the increase available general fund property taxes. That's 1,000,008 27 you'll see a decrease of that number that's an on the one point eight and ongoing resource.
You see the decrease of 320 which goes to the 18 percent deferred maintenance funding but you see an increase in one time funding available there on the On the middle column of numbers and then a net of zero says that there's no additional money is currently being recommended for deferred maintenance. You'll see also a reclassification of the CalFresh from one time to ongoing. We think this is extremely appropriate because we know that how local share of CalFresh will be a continuing cost had we had the additional ongoing monies or considered ongoing moneys, we would have made this one time are ongoing in the recommended budget But because of the additional revenue, we're able to accomplish this. Again no net impact there on the far right.
With respect to contingencies, we're suggesting that the board has available to it 181 in ongoing and 319,000 for a total 500,000. That comes out of the fund balance chart. Contingencies was reading at 2 million so that would bring contingencies down to 1.5 You'll see as we mentioned the freeing up of $2 million in one-time money because the governors may revise.
And finally, reflecting your board's action you took last month with respect to providing full year funding for the AOT program a negative $275 at a one time. So you can see in your total sources Through all these changes, the recommended budget about 1.2 million available new sources in ongoing category roughly 2.9 in one time for a total of 4 million and then in the lower section of this chart Is the uses and here we show a use of ongoing funds in the amount of six hundred twenty five thousand dollars to address the impact. We know that will have an IHSS for next fiscal year. This is our best estimate based on information received as recently as Wednesday of last week.
It could it could actually increase higher than this but this is I think a good number With respect to child welfare, your board could consider the additional two FDE social workers within Child Welfare Expansion. That general fund costs about $175,000-$176,000. In addition, your board could consider the two additional eligibility workers within the foster care program.
That local cost is about $96,000 Further recommending and our CSD director is prepared to discuss this in greater detail. A set aside with the compliance, Coastal Commission compliance permitting for the Glade Beach anticipated fiscal year 17-18 cost of $567,000. We'd recommend that your board increase contingencies by a million dollars. Also your board consider funding an additional $300,000 to the pot of money that we've identified for the sheriff to draw upon as it relates to court security.
This will bring the pot of money to 800,000 as I mentioned earlier in the presentation We've already set aside 500,000 this would bring it to a total eight hundred thousand and eight hundred thousand is the five-year average The sheriff has expended to provide court security above and beyond what the state provides for that purpose. And finally, your board could consider the restoration of the balance of the service level impact for the Isla Vista foot patrol.
Again if your board wanted to consider this we'd recommend that money be set aside in a pool of money as well for the sheriff to draw on if in fact Or sometime after the sheriff finishes negotiation with the university. So if you look at both the total sources and total uses you'll see down there remaining sources which would be available for your board to allocate the conclusion of hearings for a total of $813,000 roughly $300,000 in ongoing and 514 in one time.
Again this will be the subject matter of your board's deliberations at the conclusion of hearings.
Madam Chair.
Supervisor La Manino and then Supervisor Wood.
So Mr. Frapp, I want to get a good perspective of next year before I start putting lists together. What you talked about was a pension increase of probably $8 million? And do we know do we know any other. I know we're talking about a two million dollar increase in possible road funding coming to us but when I look at adding ongoing what I really don't want to do is add somebody and then turn around next month and say you know we're 11 or 12 million dollars short in that person's back on the list again so are you going to make a recommendation at all of any addition whether or not it comes from the board or from you What's the possibility of that person making it through the next round or 18 19 or 1920. I mean it to me with limited resources.
I understand us doing one times but I don't understand adding ongoing that has no future so are you going to be prepared to talk about that or
Supervisor Lapp, meeting of the chair. You know as the budget director I think it's my duty to tell you that you should not add any of that money into ongoing I do think we know enough about next year and will continue to work on that this fall with respect to putting a more precise, certainly a more measured forecast together for your board's consideration. But certainly we know there are significant cost increases that will put significant pressures on the county's ability to provide ongoing services next year and for the next four years frankly.
And so, you know I think that your sensitivity to making sure that if your board's inclined to add funds it gets in the one-time category. I think that is prudent.
Supervisor Wolf.
Thank You Madam Chair. So Mr. Proudwell could you tell me now what is the full amount of contingencies that we're looking at?
Supervisor Wolf through the chair The fund balance sheet that we went over a few slides ago showed a two million dollar balance. So if you look at this chart here, you'll see $2,029,000 in the contingencies line item. So you take that number And move forward to possible adjustments for the recommended budget. You'll see that we're pulling from that $2 million, we're pulling a total of $500,266 from contingency. So you'll see that on the fourth line down in the sources so that $191 we're considering ongoing and $319 at one time. So if you start with the $2 million and subtract the half-million dollars we show here is available That would bring your new balance to 1.5 million dollars that would be the minimum that I'd recommend should not board not go below.
If down in the bottom section of the category where we have suggested uses it could be to add a million dollars contingency so if you start at one point five and the million dollars here yet you'd wind up if your board were to accept this at 2.5 million dollar contingency
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Thank you.
Madam Chair, with your permission I would like our assessor to provide your board with an update on as recently as this morning.
Good morning Madam Chair and members of the Board. Joe Holland County Clerk Recorder Assessor We met with the CEO on Thursday and at that point in time the assessed value was up about 5.82%. We wanted to be conservative, we said let's use 5.75%, you can see that as of this morning we're actually at a 5.65% increase so that's $75 billion dollars in assessed value Which is up from 71 billion last year.
And which is significantly above the 4.3% increase that we had last year. One of the reasons why this is higher this year is that we were able to direct resources in the department to look at our Prop 8 Section 51 properties that have been lowered because of the recession. And we were actually able to add back $800 million by taking a more in-depth review of those properties that have been lowered.
So, that probably accounts for You know one plus percent increase over last year. But I guess my message to your board would be the average increase over the last four years was 4.65%. That's probably more consistent with what we're going to see going forward in the upcoming years. I think this 5.6 or whatever we're gonna be at is probably an outlier given the history, especially if you look back over the last eight years when the average increase was about 2.8%.
But that's what I have as of this point and we're going to continue to work the role up through Wednesday close of business. It's likely that 5.65 might go down a little more as we add more exemptions that were working through the department.
A couple of questions for you up here Mr. Holland, Supervisor Adam?
So this is real time how come it changes so much from Run to run here
supervisor Adam to the chair. We're working and so like I said the big reason for the reductions was we're adding the exemptions as we as we're sitting here right now yeah this is real time this will change leading up through the close of business on Wednesday.
So does Wednesday close the business Wednesday is that the final number or because I just we just had a presentation that said did you don't end this process until like September or something
right? Supervisor Adam through the chair. No no we closed the role every June and so then that sets the. It's the end of the
month
it's the
end of the month when you close the roll its June 30th
I know we're actually going to close it this Wednesday.
Oh you are?
Yes.
Okay so this is a real final solid number.
Correct on Wednesday it will be the final number that we will deliver to the auditor.
Thank you very
much. Thank you. And then from that we turn the information over to the tax collector who submits the bills. So there are adjustments and calculations to be made. The assessed value is, you know, the baseline but then the actual taxes are applied to them.
Supervisor Wolf. Thank you Madam Chair, Mr. Holland I just want to express my appreciation to you for meeting with our CEO this came up during well I think it comes up every year but during budget workshop I know we had encouraged you to get us these numbers before today's budget workshop and I'm actually very surprised to see how high it is but you know I appreciate your kind of cautious optimism at looking at that average of 4.65 which is still higher than where we were last year so thank you for doing that, I think in my remarks I'll probably have some comments about the utilization Adjustments to this recommended budget because I do believe that we've taken such a blow to some of our departments that we need to reassess and make sure that we can maintain our social safety net which i think has been decimated in this budget.
Thank you Madam Chair. Supervisor Lavanino
I forgot what I was going to say. Okay, they cut me off guard there. All right. Thought we were getting into deliberations. My question was why do we do this? Why don't we just have, why don't we do the budget next week? I mean, why do we always sit here and it's like, we don't know what the number is. We're trying to patch this thing together. It just doesn't seem like a very good way to do the business. Why don'y we just wait until they close the roll? We know what our number is.
I mean, I think by state law that we have to add up to the state at the end of June
CEO Miyasato.
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Chair Hartman and board members we actually have longer than that according to the state law. I think we've talked about moving the budget hearings different dates, I've talked to my staff and I think that it we can't predict with certainty when the assessor is going to close the roll depends on his staffing it depends on the complexity of the cases that they're looking at so I think that's one of the issues.
So it's not by statute you close it on Wednesday?
Supervisor Lavinino through the chair. A few years back we used to close the roll in May. But we're down a dozen people what we had did but we just work up to the very last minute so we set the 16th or yeah this Wednesday whatever that date that is. That's where we set our deadline. But like I said we used to close the roll in May and your board would have the numbers but we're down a dozen employees and we just we have to work up to the very last minute
So that doesn't employees would account for about 2 million dollars so I'll go ahead and just take your best guess then thank you.
And Mister because only you had something to add.
Chairman supervisors throughout the county budget act June 30th is a significant date for several sections by which time the board shall take action on the recommended budget there's a longer answer to that but the most straightforward approach is June 30th as the cutoff for action on the recommended budget
OK I think we can go forward.
Can I just point out chair Hartman to so given that the projection is higher and is lower now than what we've just given you information on. We will be talking to the auditor about what is a prudent calculation and we'll come back to your board before your deliberations to see if our recommendations change.
So Madam Chair, members of the board this is as we move into this next section of our hearings. We're going to be considering the groups of budgets by functional group. Our first functional group for consideration is the Health and Human Services function.
What we'd like to do is take just a quick break. I have a request up here, five minutes not long. ♪
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Please take your seats after a short break. We're reconvening our budget hearings of June 12, 2017 Santa Barbara Board of Supervisors and we're about ready to start with the functional group overview health and human services.
Thank you Madam Chair. So our first functional group to look at today is the Health and Human Services Group. You see here on the slide that it's comprised of Departments of Behavioral Wellness, Child Support Services, Our First Five Commission, Public Health and Social Services. If you look at the total operating expense for the departments that are comprised this functional group you'll have here on the pie chart on the left The entire all functional groups breaking out to the right just the health and human services. You can see how that pie chart or that piece of the pie breaks down by department, social services making up the majority 16% there, behavioral wellness at 11%, and public health at 8%. First five in child support taking fourth and fifth.
In this functional group, we have prepared a presentation for your board from social services. I think our director is here and would like to make a presentation for your board. Obviously this would be the time if your board had questions for any other departments it'd be the appropriate time to ask those as well. I saw Daniel earlier.
Before you start.
I was communicating with the undersheriff on the other side of the room.
And before you start Mr. Nielsen, I did have one question for Mr. Frapwell. You said earlier that we are spending in this budget more for behavioral wellness and social services than we have in the past. Is that total or is that general fund money?
Actually in general fund what we were referring to is our general fund contribution to these special revenue funds. So as a total percentage of the discretionary revenue that your board's prepared to allocate or include in the recommended budget, a greater percentage slightly greater percentage is now going to these programs as opposed to prior fiscal years.
Thank you.
Good morning Chair Hartman and Supervisors. I'm Daniel Neal, Senior Director of the Department of Social Services and I'm going to give you a very brief update on matters impacting the department that have changed since our April budget workshops. This slide summarizes the current budget figures as a result of decisions made by the CEO to recommend restorations number one and two from the April budget workshops which have already previously been discussed by Mr. Frapwell, and the ones tied to which were tied to the CalFresh program as well as funding for the IHSS provider raises which your board approved in May.
While the department will be continuing to serve our community in all program areas, our priority as we enter the new fiscal year will be to assess our organizational structure and work processes to determine how best to attempt to meet our mandates with a staffing level of 735 FTEs which is 107 less positions than we had filled as of November 30th 2016. In addition to the positions that we did not fill when they became vacant over the past months and the 71 positions that we are losing as a result of layoffs, we have an additional 28 positions that will be filled by people who were demoted.
Some of which will have to be trained in the work to which they are now assigned. These staffing reductions and adjustments have created the necessity and opportunity for a complete assessment of the methods by which we achieve our mandated outcomes. We will engage all levels of our staff as we create new structures and processes so that our evolution to our new normal will be informed by the best ideas of all involved in our work.
We will also be looking to the future and fiscal year 18-19 with increasing salary and benefit costs in 18-19 currently estimated at $3.7 million for our department, and no anticipated federal and state revenue increases to meet those increased costs. The department will be holding vacancies as they occur and downsizing in anticipation of the 18- 19 fiscal year.
Since we last discussed budget in April, the May revise was released. The size of the CalWORKs allocation cut that had been proposed in January was increased however the methodology for distributing that allocation which we decided on in May did not harm us further beyond what we had already planned for Further, and this is good news. Last week the Senate and the Assembly agreed to a restoration of $1.8 million of CalWORKs funding which drops the actual cut in funding for the year to $140 million in total.
If the Governor signs off on this, which we believe he will This will restore approximately six positions in the CalWORKs program. The CalFresh allocation reduction was further increased in the May revise from 5.6% to 10.6%, but the allocation methodology has still not been decided. It is anticipated that this will be decided one week from today on June 19th, I have been told in the meetings I have been in that caseload size will be a factor in that methodology, which is important to us because our CalFresh caseloads has actually been increasing over the past few years and not decreasing as the statewide average.
The 1991 and 2011 realignment projections for anticipated growth were reduced but we think what we budgeted will be in alignment with what we actually receive In the in-home supportive services program, the issue was resolved through a complex arrangement that increases our share of cost in 18-19 by about $42,000 above what we had budgeted. But it will increase our MOE in 18-19 to 5% rather than 3.5%. And that's going to be on the newly adjusted base, so in essence, it's a very complex situation but in essence what happened is when the state proposed to going back to our old sharing ratio of 65%, 35%, 65% state, 35% county of the nonfederal share of the program The negotiations occurred and basically that shift is ending up happening. It's happening over a longer period of time with some front end help with some state general fund in the initial period of time and a change of the schedule by which we receive our realignment funds, so we're going to get those in real-time rather than delayed.
And so the base, we're going to return to having a new MOE but next year in 18-19 that MOE increase will be 5% instead of 3.5%, and the year after that and moving forward it's scheduled to be 7%. And all of that is on the newly adjusted base. So our estimated increase for our MOE in 18- 19 is approximately $625,000 as Mr. Frapwell previously mentioned. There is re-opener language in the deal struck between the Governor and CSAC and the unions that allows discussion of this matter to occur again before that 7% increase occurs.
So two years from now there will be discussion on this again, and I'll look at 1991 realignment and how that is funding the IHSS program and decisions made regarding any changes that might be needed moving forward. And then finally, as previously mentioned, we gave notices to staff regarding layoffs. The end result being that we will have 71 staff out the door and another 28 demoted.
Additionally, we have six staff that were able to keep their same level of position but had to switch work locations to a different part of the county. So that ends up being an update from the slide is it's actually a total of 105 staff impacted. This chart is outdated in that the CEO is now recommending that the CalFresh restoration amounts be funded with ongoing funds rather than one-time funds, but the amounts remain the same.
The line addressing IHSS wages reflects the decision made by your board in May of this year regarding provider wages. This chart updates the number of FTEs reduced as a result of declining revenues and increased costs. This slide reflects restoration number three as we discussed at the April workshops. At the April workshops, the department had three restoration requests. The first two were related to the CalFresh program and the third was related to six child welfare social workers.
And as has already been mentioned and I will address further in the next slide there's been some adjustments to that recommendation. We will go ahead and move on to that one. So this slide, this chart reflects the ongoing discussion between the department and CEO's office to recommend that the one-time funding for CalFresh be changed to ongoing funding And that we have ongoing funding for two social workers in the child welfare program and two eligibility workers in the foster care program, which are really the people who determine eligibility on our families coming into the system to determine whether or not we're eligible to draw down federal funds. And to the extent that that work can be done timely and accurately it increases the amount of federal funds we receive versus having to pay for those costs with local funds.
So with that I'm happy to answer questions.
Supervisor Wolf. Thank you Madam Chair, thank you very much Mr. Nielsen for your service to your entire department's service to our community. I am concerned about a few things. One is the child welfare program services that was a restoration that you had asked for. And back during our budget hearings, our budget workshop I had submitted a board inquiry form about the impact On a caseload size for our child welfare services adult protective services and foster care administration.
And I could go through every one of these, but it was. Absolutely apparent that the caseloads were going to increase. That as far as child welfare and adult protective services, the caseloads would exceed recommended standards SB 2030 recommended standards. And in the case of foster care administration reductions not only would there be a 37.5% caseload increase but you also mentioned in That these, a reduction or an impact on eligibility workers would decrease their ability to meet mandated time frames for foster care eligibility determination.
Which negatively impacts resource families, relatives and those who rely on foster care funding. And I should also add that those three that I just mentioned, those three categories all receive matching funds from state and federal government. I'm while I'm pleased to see that the CEO is suggesting that we look at those as optional. I would suggest that they are absolutely necessary that we fulfill our obligations in those three areas not just for the reasons that I mentioned but also because you know when Supervisor Carbajal and I had our we had the foster care The task force as I know you're aware. They the task force came to us with a number of recommendations. The main one was to hire basically a czar who would oversee foster care administration And at that time, I didn't go along with that recommendation because I didn't feel that it was necessary and I also didn't feel that it was financially appropriate for us to do that.
But the other recommendation that they made was that we wouldn't, that they recommended that we not see a reduction in our social workers so as to not increase their And I believe all of us at that time agreed with that. That was a commitment that we made, and so to see a reduction in social workers is Probably one of the more disappointing aspects of this budget. So I know this is not our deliberation time, and I'm not faulting you Mr. Nielsen because I think you've worked well with our CEO to come up with what you have. But I'm suggesting that this is the opportunity for our board to make these decisions to ensure the safety and well-being of our community at a cost that, I think I've calculated it may be $1.5 million. And so when I look at some of the other funds that we're spending on, Take a good hard look at the folks who are serving our community.
And with that, I appreciate your time giving me the time Madam Chair and thank you Mr. Nielsen. Supervisor Lavanino?
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Thank you Madam Chair. I'm looking at your BIF supervisor Wolf and trying to figure out So I'm looking at the child CWS average monthly workload versus the social worker FTE by fiscal year. Is that what you were referring to?
You know, I am looking at my BIF inquiry number 18 is that the
one? Yeah, I'm looking at that.
OK
so then it says average per FTE by
year
on your far right column. So I am following 14 15 15 16 and 16 17
No actually that's not. I think that's a different BIF.
It says inquiry number 18, oh addendum. Okay.
It was an addendum and interestingly if I could just say that was after the workshop and that wasn't requested, I did not request that but I think that there are some interesting points in there especially when you look at kind of the red areas where we are you might say out of compliance So anyway, just to be clear I didn't request
that. So I guess my question for Mr. Nielsen is do you see next year the state increasing funding for these programs?
Well Supervisor Lavinino through the Chair, one of the things that gives us a little bit of hope regarding child welfare is the state seems to be starting to listen to the fact that the basis upon which our funding is for our social work staff is about 17 years old and hasn't been adjusted during that time. And the first trickle of positive good news in that regard is that on continuum of care reform, they're actually purposefully funding us related to the work specifically related to continuum of care reform at our actual costs. So there's some indication of recognition from the state that what it costs us to do this work is much higher than the money we receive and with continuum of care reform I see that as kind of a door cracking open Don't see any other questions up here.
So with that we move to public
comment.
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Chair Hartman, members of the board. We have four requests to speak on the budget overview and the first functional group. We're going to start with Vijaya Jamalamataka to be followed by Gwen Laurie.
Good morning Madam Chair, Supervisors. I am Vijaya Jamalamataka. Speaking on behalf of the League of Women Voters of Santa Barbara. The league as some of you may know is a nonpartisan political organization we only advocate for issues that we have taken positions on and in all these areas we have well-developed policy positions so the league supports programs and policies to prevent or reduce poverty and to promote Self-sufficiency for individuals and families.
And we also support comprehensive, flexible, effective mental health programs for adults and children needing preventive help maintenance treatment and rehabilitation So as you go forward with these difficult budget deliberations, we first gratefully acknowledge that the and we support the restored CEO recommendations in the areas of funding for warming centers and emergency shelters.
For the Institute for Mental Disease and hospital beds And we strongly advocate for restoring funding for social service workers with all the entities of CalFresh, CalWORKs, Medi-Cal, in home supportive services, adult protective services and you know all of the rest. So, we believe that cuts to these programs will harm the most vulnerable people in our county and may have unintended and possibly costly consequences for our county.
So, we thank you for your consideration.
Gwen Lurie. Followed by Tara O'Reilly.
Good morning, my name is Gwynn Lurie. I was the chair of the Santa Barbara County Child Welfare Safety Net Task Force created by the Board of Supervisors two years ago to conduct a holistic assessment of the strengths weaknesses and gaps in the county's child welfare system and to produce a report for the board At the time it was a bit mind-boggling that the goal of not a single child falls between the cracks was not met with greater enthusiasm or sense of priority. A year later we and many of those we have interviewed are wondering what happened to those recommendations? It appears that not only has nothing happened but that those children who are most at risk of abuse and neglect, and the people in the county family on whom we count on to protect them are once again at the front of the chopping block line.
We understand that the county is feeling the impact of reduced state funding for many social service programs and that help children and families on the edge. During these challenging times, it is more important than ever that our social safety net is intact to protect our most vulnerable citizens. It's great to invest in our broken roads But some of our kids are crumbling too. Roads are expensive to fix, but so are children and unlike roads at a certain point children become unfixable.
Two years ago we were asked by the board to be aspirational. What can we as a community do to better serve our at-risk children? Our recommendation, a comprehensive countywide multiyear strategic plan with a goal that from birth to adulthood not a single child falls between the cracks which required reducing the caseloads of already overworked caseworkers. This is dismissed by county staff as quote beyond the mandates of the Department of Social Services, Behavioral Wellness and Public Health as well as the control and authority of the Board of Supervisors. However DSS did report to the board on their understanding of the critical need to reduce caseloads in their work in that direction. The proposed cuts in your budget move us in the opposite direction.
As you work on this year's difficult budget, this is an area where you do have control and the ability to make a huge difference in the life of our most vulnerable children. The proposed reduction in foster care administration staff would result in a 37.5% caseload increase for our already overburdened eligibility workers If you do this, you will be cutting critical positions that keeps our families safe. Today I am asking you please to restore funds for the foster care eligibility workers which will allow you to draw down much needed federal funds. I'm also imploring you to fund the six child welfare social worker positions and finally to restore two juvenile probation officer positions in a department where officers dealing with high risk juveniles are already at double the recommended caseload Even if this were just for one year, think about the upwards of 500 kids that are in the system at any one time.
These children are the cracks in the road that will become potholes and you certainly don't need me to tell you about the long-term implications of not taking care of our children. Thank you very much.
Tara O'Reilly? Is Tara here? Then we're going to go to Mr. Caldwell to be followed by Danny Correa who's our final speaker.
Members of the Board, Andy Caldwell representing CoLab. Let's set the record straight. The road budget is not why you're out of money for social services. Our economy is actually supposed to be booming right now It's got to do with pensions at all levels of government, and it also has to do with your own policies in terms of environmental and energy policies which are increasing the cost of business and reducing your revenues. Again, Supervisor Wolf is one of the ones that wrings our hands the most during these budget hearings It is the first to say no to short term rentals, the first to say no to wineries, the first to say no to oil projects which is where your money comes from. The first to say no to development on the Gaviota Coast which is where your money comes from you can't have it both ways.
You know the bottom line, you need to go to page G8 in your budget book and see that the North County has one half of the population and two thirds of the poverty in this county. And the reason is we're creating a permanent urban underclass. I used to be in HR. I used to hire people out of the fields Didn't have to have a high school education, didn't have to speak English and they were on their way to a middle class income via manufacturing and industrial jobs. And these are the jobs your energy and environmental policies are killing.
You are creating the poverty that you want to throw money at with social services. The real PCI index for social services is not how many people are getting aid or how many workers are on the case. The real PCI should be how many people got off of welfare when our unemployment rate got cut in half. The real indicator is how many people didn't look for jobs but got a job and guess what? Those performance measures have never been in a budget book even though I've asked for them every single year Look at D 227 there's they call it accomplishments their activity levels. They don't tell you how many people got off welfare, how many kids got out of need no longer needed counseling.
Supervisor Lavinino to your point this budget group is taking in 400 million a year that's a billion dollars every two and a half years and what's improved? A billion every two and a half years. What has improved? That's the PCI that we're looking for, and also this functional group has the highest lost time even above safety. What's so dangerous about working for social services? 6.5% lost time rate.
Thank you.
Danny Carrillo.
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Good morning Madam Chair, members of the Board, County staff. Danny Carrillo, Regional Director for SCIU 721 and Tri-Counties. Primarily the workers we represent here are in social services. Other than Mr. Caldwell I vehemently concur with the other two previous speakers. Mr. Caldwell mentions pensions and how that's a big problem. It's not as bad as the public thinks it is. It's just like social security program, that's a big problem too but it's not going to go broke.
Supervisor Wolf I just want to concur and support the comments that you made and I'm going to steal the word that you always use which is human infrastructure we need to think about that. Roads and maintenance, sure that's important. We're talking about people's lives being at stake here not only the good union jobs that your members and your employees provide but also the constituents with the services they provide.
I know you probably don't want to hear this but our county to the south of us had the same similar issues but for other reasons they were able to keep jobs and everybody is not going to be walking out We hope that you as a body can look to see where you can restore these services and saves people jobs not only again for their livelihoods and their families but the constituents that you serve. Thank you.
That concludes public comment.
Thank you Supervisor Wolf. Thank you Mr. Nielsen I have a question for you. The issue of poverty comes up a lot when we talk about social services. But isn't it a fact that some people who may not be in poverty, but maybe middle class folks might utilize social workers or let's just start there?
Supervisor Wolf to the chair. Yes in our work with families and with children we engage families throughout the community based upon referrals or self-identification of asking for help, and that has nothing to do with their poverty level it has to do with the fact that they're either somebody's concerned about them or they're concerned about themselves and want our engagement.
Okay thank you very much. Supervisor Lavinino.
Thank you, Madam Chair. So first off question I guess for you and maybe for Lori as well is so the folks that are leaving your that might based on this budget be displaced? Are we working with other departments inside the county to make sure those folks have first shot at another job inside the county?
Yes, Supervisor Leaveny knows through the chair. We since we originally became aware that layoffs of some sort were going to have to happen, we started working very collaboratively with the HR department our central HR department is And we've been working together for several months in identifying positions that were vacant or becoming vacant that could potentially be ones that our employees could go into.
The HR department has done a very good job of identifying those when we gave our staff their layoff notices, it came with a full packet immediately after that. We did workshops that week on the layoff process and the week after Employees University staff did a half day seminar for all of the staff impacted that covered many areas, but also focused in on how those of them that were interested in moving to different county openings. Could know which those openings were.
The CEO's office held, had departments hold positions open as we were headed towards the layoff process so that they'd be available for those staff.
Okay so that's the only question I had. I do have a statement though and that is you know when we look at social services department 90 something percent of its funded outside the general fund and it's state funding most of it And we have to remember, we're not living in some super conservative redneck state that says we're going to cut social services for no reason.
We probably live in the most progressive state that there is. And even at this point, this state legislature is saying we've finally hit, this is how much we're going to fund. So this idea that we're decimating our social services department I don't understand. If you look at the numbers, we're putting more general fund in than we did last year. The overall budget for social services is actually larger than it was in 15-16.
You know, I understand that you might have fewer bodies. Some of that has to do with pension and increased costs to employees and we have fewer bodies there but it's not from a lack of commitment from this board. The size of the budget is larger so at some point we have to get more efficient just throwing money at a problem is not going to fix it and we've got to figure out in measure find out what's working what isn't working And there's never going to be enough money to do all the things that we would like to do. And because of the nature of what we do and what we're in charge of, you know, there's always going to be able to have somebody come and talk about we're not taking care of the poor or a child that needs help or an elderly person.
That's that's the nature of what we do. So anytime we don't have enough, there's always going to be a very strong case to be made to fund everything. We just can't. But I really found it It's odd that we're going to bang on and pick out roads as the problem in this situation of why we're not handling social services. This is the fly on the elephant, the little tail wagging.
We spend a small fraction of our costs on roads and maintenance and a huge portion of it on social services so I think we've got to keep it all into perspective. It's a matter of balance.
Supervisor Williams?
Well I think you're both right. I think we have a real need to protect our human and physical infrastructure, and I do not view them as in conflict as has been cast thus far at this hearing. Physical infrastructure is the means of commerce Every civilization that provides any measure of social services cannot do so without physical infrastructure. You neglect physical infrastructure, over the long run you will also see a decrease in the revenue that can be provided for these social services. So I do not view them as in conflict but I do think we need to do better within our means And I view the, as Supervisor Wolf has indicated, the optional restorations in child welfare and foster care to be not optional but mandatory.
That these are within our financial means. The match the state provides is pretty dismal on them but we can't always just chase the match. I believe them to be within our means. The point though that Supervisor Labadino made is, I think should be well taken. We the measure of our priorities is our general fund dollars and we are dramatically increasing our general fund dollars into both social services and behavioral wellness in order to basically I'd like I hope the public takes that into mind, that what's really the issue is there is less money that is non-general fund available both because we have been hitting caps that are dictated by the state. Caps in funding.
Because we've actually been doing better at signing people up for these services. So if we were still doing a dismal job of signing people up for the services, we wouldn't have a financial issue. So it's been because we actually got good at signing people up that we're now hitting caps that The state starts wondering why is your number of rising so high? Well, I think one of the things we have to obviously work on is making sure that the state formulas recognize when a county like ourselves did a bad job of signing people up and over diligent work of a few years got good at actually signing people up for the services that they need.
So I wanted to put my two cents in that this is an important increase in our commitment to social services. And yes, I think we can reach just slightly farther and include the child welfare program services and foster care positions in the final budget.
Supervisor Adam?
I was going to try not to do this, but I had to. You know that signing people up thing kind of drives me nuts because you know I asked Mr. Nielsen at one time how many people in Santa Barbara County are on welfare and he says well There's so many programs, it's hard to say with great specificity. It would be a giant report and he says that Mr. Nielsen is here and you can kind of know where you are.
Are we still in the neighborhood of 36% on Medi-Cal which is the best indicator of other program
use? Supervisor Adam through the chair my memory isn't serving me totally well but I would be safe saying 32 to 33%.
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That's that's good. So I was just going to characterize something you told me maybe a year and a half ago so if that's you know more or less it probably should be so that's fine but it's still in that neighborhood
on people on Medi-Cal yes
yeah and that's still the best indicator of somebody who uses multiple programs other programs
Supervisor Adams to the chair. We tend to think so because most people that are on Medi-Cal, everybody that's on IHSS is also on Medi-Cal. You know many people who are on food stamps though not all are Medi Cal eligible or on Medical. So when we look at all of our different assistance programs and try to figure out exactly how many people we tend to use the medical number because it's the largest. And anybody that is eligible for that is going to be eligible for most of everything else.
So so that number still remains around a third.
Yes
OK
which is which is similar to the state
right So you know I don't know who thinks that it's a great thing to have a third of our people on public assistance. I mean there is something fundamentally wrong with your economy in my opinion at that point when you've got a third of the people in your jurisdiction on public assistance, that's just a failure to create You know we've we've made it very difficult to do business in this county and you know I think what you're what you see in here.
And I think Mr. Lavagnino bringing up the ongoing nature of It's really important because at some point we have to go after some revenue. You know this is this is a revenue. This is as much a revenue problem as it is a an expenditure problem and you know every it will come as no surprise to anybody that I'm probably going to have trouble voting for this budget at the end Depending upon what happens but you know we just have to make this economy better.
This is not a choice at this point. And as I said once before, you know if you open the door tomorrow to everything that could possibly come through the gate it'll be two years before you really start to see revenue increases so it's important that we start tomorrow because it will be two years. And it might even be longer than that because it just takes people longer to build facilities and hire people. And you know first you have to draw the plans and then you have to get the financing and then you have to build a facility. You know this is not a rapid turnaround business so Anyway I think that whole idea that signing people up is a value, you know I think it's a negative indicator.
Supervisor Williams.
Well the only thing worse than having a third of our population on welfare is having a third of our population needing welfare but not signed up. And, you know, these are not just CalWORKs services. This is foster care, this is child welfare, this is CalFresh, you know that's non-monetary support, nutrition support for mostly children. I mean most of these people that are on this are kids and so You know I don't disagree with you though that it is an indicator fundamentally a failure of our economy. We are an extremely low wage economy in this county and we have failed to diversify it to adequately expand into middle wage jobs the type you get in tech, knowledge based and manufacturing.
And that is a huge conundrum We're not going to solve it here today. It's mainly a problem of housing, not just of political support but of housing issues and we've got to keep at it because to me it's a big reason why I made some determinations last week and that this board went in a certain direction last week Because we're not going to get middle class jobs without.
More middle-class housing. I think some of these just make sense say the foster care restoration makes sense so I'll pick on that because I know the issue better than some of the other ones were having a hard time signing up enough resource parents that have the capability for some of our more We're going to have more difficult. I forget the term of art you guys use but more difficult foster placements and if we make it worse for the eligibility workers And so that will just deepen our problem in the near term and in the long-term obviously if we fail in our foster system, we incur lots of expenses because a large pool of recruitment for our homeless and jail population is aged out foster youth that did not get the right family.
So I also just you know use this opportunity to be at the soapbox if somebody wants to do something about this problem that involves more than. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.
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Supervisor Wolf. Thank you, Madam Chair. First of all I made a mistake I think in calling the task force foster care task force.
It was the child welfare safety net task force supervisor Wolf.
Thank you yeah I realize that now And I just want to follow up with what Supervisor Williams talked about with our foster youth. You know, and going over this budget and seeing the potential reductions to child welfare foster care I just, the irony was too much when I looked in the newspaper and I saw this ad. And it's Our County Our Kids which is an ad put out by our social services department requesting as Supervisor Williams talked about getting resource families. The other issue that we have in the county is that there is a move to close or remove kids from group homes and bring them back to Santa Barbara. I'm just asking for the restoration of what we're taking away so that If we can't stand behind what we're saying to the community, then I really do think we have a problem here.
And I do believe that there are ways and places that we can find the funds to ensure that we meet our obligations. Thank you Mr. Nielsen.
I think that concludes this section of our agenda and I think we're ready to move on to the public safety functional group.
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Madam Chair, as we focus on the functional group for public safety. Public Safety Functional Group consists of the Court Special Services Department, the District Attorney, Fire, Probation, Public Defender and Sheriff. Planned presentation will be from the Sheriff but let me just talk quickly about what this looks like in total operating expenses within this functional group. You can see the functional group makes up about 29% Of our total county budget.
And off to the right, you can see how that breaks down between the representative departments. Sheriff receiving 13% of the total operating budget for the county. Fire receiving 7%, Probation 5 and DA 2%. Correspondence Services 1 and Public Defender roughly 1%. So we do have a plan presentation by the sheriff And then obviously if there's other departments here in this category you'd like to hear from or ask questions of, they're available here as well.
Thank you madam chair and members of the board thank you for having us up here today. I'd like to start off by just saying that the sheriff's office didn't have to make this presentation we're actually offered the opportunity not do it but we wanted to do it for three reasons one is we want to I want to convey to you and assure you that the Sheriff's Office understands and recognizes the challenges that the county is facing.
And has done everything possible to collaborate in finding solutions to some of those challenges. Number two, we felt a duty to advise you and to advise the public of what the anticipated impacts Projected reductions are going to be and then number three. We want to ask you to consider One other financial item some bridge funding that I'll talk about a little bit later Are As was mentioned in the April workshop Our capacity in the Sheriff's Office to absorb further cuts is essentially exhausted.
Under Sheriff Malekian mentioned that the stretch has really gone from the rubber band. We lost 65 positions during the recession from 2008-2013, and the numbers of staff lost are really less important than the services that we have stopped providing or have reduced considerably. We've eliminated the Montecito Community Resource Deputy, tactical training officers in several police academies in the area.
We lost 11 management positions – that's 28% of our sworn management ranks. We lost our research and planning unit, our community services bureau, and we have reduced our narcotics and gang teams. And that's to the point where we are now. The cuts that are on the table will take us well beyond that point. With the exception of Isla Vista, every patrol station in the county is at minimum staffing levels and our custody personnel have been working mandatory overtime shifts on and off for 15 years.
In spite of the recommended restorations which are very much appreciated The bottom line is that there's a proposed massive cut to the Sheriff's Office, even greater than what we sustained at the height of the Great Recession. A cut of $5.5 million from our budget. The summary slide here shows the breakdown in terms of our operating expenditure capital. The amount that we get from the general fund, that 74 million, is about 54% of our total budget The number of full-time equivalent employees, the staffing cost to stand up this year's contributions if you will towards the Northern Branch Jail opening in about a year and three quarters. The use of one time monies for ongoing operations is currently at zero The service level reductions that are proposed, $5.5 million, are restoration requests and expansion requests.
And note that $3.3 million was added to the budget since the beginning of the workshop. Under our highlighted objectives there are three areas that I just want to briefly focus on. Number one is we're continuing to work with general services to address radio coverage issues Which have been significant and problematic throughout the county. We've already made some progress developing a long-range plan, identifying sites for improvement, putting a repeater in Buellton and we are in the process of securing a site on San Antonio Peak to cover the Casamalia, Tanglewood, Western Santa Maria and Northern Branch Jail requirements And through a separate program, through the Homeland Security Approval Authority we are working on a plan to install equipment on Santa Cruz Island and on Valley Peak that will provide significantly enhanced coverage on the South Coast, Hollister Ranch area down to the county line in the south for both law and fire.
The second area is overtime. An objective is to reduce our utilization of overtime through a plan to manage lost time and as was discussed extensively during the April budget workshop, there's a direct relationship between lost time and the amount of overtime that we use. As we committed to the Board of Supervisors, we have reduced our overtime use significantly for the first quarter to now.
And we intend to continue that trend throughout the next fiscal year. We've done that through a variety of means, having detectives periodically work in patrol assignments, mandatory overtime shifts, creating a cover watch, adjusting schedules and reducing the amount of scheduled overtime for planned events like Halloween and Deltopia. We have also asked for and in front of you as a consideration to have 10 deputy lines funded additional deputy lines funded.
That we believe will allow us to substantially reduce overtime even further. Certainly to pay for the cost of that item, but perhaps to reduce the overtime usage even further and should the board approve that, we will be working diligently to get those deputies hired and put that process in work. And then lastly, the jail working with General Services to start the renovation process for the main jail to address deferred maintenance projects and comply with recommendations from the grand jury.
In that respect, we've had a series of meetings between the Sheriff's Office, General Services, County Council and various consultants and vendors to discuss the refurbishing and the potential repurposing of parts of the main jail in the MSF. And we intend to have a prioritized list of projects completed by October of this year. On the recommended expansions and restorations, I've already addressed the first issue so I will walk you through the other two but I'll do that as we go through the next slides if we can.
Let me preface my remarks in this area by saying that all of these service level reductions are bad choices. They will all have negative consequences, negative impacts on the public and we frankly do not want to do any of them in an ideal world we would be doing none of them but we have summarized these SLRs that are up on this chart into four basic areas custody operations law enforcement operations community outreach and prevention and court security So let me start with custody operations. There are three items on this list, the Santa Maria Jail closure, the termination of the Lompoc jail contract and the reduction of 10 custody deputy personnel that are all interrelated.
And the impacts are as follows. The Sheriff's Office intended to maintain the operation of the Santa Maria Branch Jail until the spring of 2019, when it will no longer be required because the Northern Branch Jail would be open and we had intended to do that using the overhires that we are in the process of hiring and training to staff that jail when it opens in the spring of 2019.
The Lompoc jail contract was not considered critical as we assumed that we would be able to transport people to Santa Maria. But the reduction of the 10 custody deputies and the fact that the next tranche of Northern Ranch Jail hires won't occur until August of this year, and there will be a significant lag time as there is with all these tranches in terms of getting people trained to the point that they can work independently, it makes it nearly impossible for us to operate the Santa Maria Branch Jail given the proposed budget cuts.
And as a result of that all law enforcement agencies, the Sheriff's Office included in the North County will be taken out of service for extended periods of time minimum about two and a half hours to transport prisoners to Santa Barbara for the next almost 2 years About a year and three quarters. And I am going to at the end of this presentation ask you to consider some one-time funding to bridge over what we're doing now in the Santa Maria Branch Jail or an alternative, a less expensive alternative.
The next area that is focused on here is law enforcement operations And the CEO's recommendation to continue funding the Isla Vista foot patrol through the first three quarters of the fiscal year is greatly appreciated. We will work with the university to see if they are interested in supporting our patrol efforts in Isla Vista to a greater extent, and we hope to find some alternative solutions to this problem. There's an additional expansion one time that's been put in there at the last minute that you're going to be considering as well for this.
In terms of our air support operations, our aviation operations, the proposed cut will reduce availability of air crew even during the fire season. And we will not be able to comply with the memorandum of understanding that we have with the Fire Department right now without utilizing overtime and there will be an impact on that in terms of reduced availability.
And the cuts also in law enforcement operations represent a 50% reduction in our already limited ability to investigate narcotic and gang crimes that occur in the unincorporated areas of the county and in those contract cities. The unit was already significantly reduced during the recession years, and will also be impacted this year as we consolidate it and combine it with the remnants Of our regional what used to be our narcotic enforcement team, which is now our regional criminal apprehension team.
The next area is community outreach and prevention. The first impacted is the DARE program. Last year we served 1690 students at 21 different schools throughout the county I would like To do that program, but in any event it's highly likely that even if we're successful and being able to get some fairly decent funding for that program. It's going to be severely curtailed probably at least in half of what it is currently.
School resource deputies, we are currently working with the affected school districts to see if we can identify alternative funding sources to fund the school resource deputies and if we are successful there will likely be an increase. If we're unsuccessful and we have to withdraw the school resource deputies there will likely be an increase in the workload of our patrol deputies as a result of that.
And then lastly in the area of court security Uh, the state provides funding to the counties for the provision of court security. And unfortunately they have never provided sufficient funds to cover all of our costs and the county has essentially subsidized the coverage in the courts for many years. Over the last five years, the county's average contribution Towards the courts has been $600,000 to 600 to 75.
In fiscal year 2014 15 the overage however was 1 million 21 thousand dollars and we are on track for an overage this year of even more than that and the reason it's cyclic is because there are The court caseloads vary and are different. And unfortunately, currently and coming up we have some significant trials involving multiple defendants charged with murder and other crimes that require additional court security over and above the norm.
The Sheriff's Office has not determined exactly how this funding cut is going to be implemented, but we do know that we have to do something different. We just don't have enough funding for what we are currently doing. The civil courts with a dedicated court bailiff in each courtroom will likely have a cadre of bailiffs that will be roving and moving between courtrooms rather than have one in each of those courtrooms all the time.
Next slide please. None of these reductions are at all palatable, and this is far more than trimming or being efficient. Each of these reductions represents a significant cut in service and or safety for the public. And while we would like all of the reductions restored, we recognize that's not going to be possible and we ask you for the following. We'd like to do something to try to impact the northern branch, Santa Maria Branch Jail potential closure between now and the time that the Northern Branch Jail opens.
We could do that one of several ways. One would be to defer the reduction of the 10 custody deputies until January 1st of 2018. This would provide the opportunity for the next tranche of deputies scheduled for hiring in August this year to be fully trained. Or we could restore the 10 custody deputies to the budget, which would allow us to keep the jail open and would mitigate the problem in the coming year as well. In other words it would go beyond being a one-year solution.
Or we could ask you to provide bridge funding in the form of one-time monies. It would have to be really two one-time moneys to do it until the opening of the jail, but for a full year this coming year and then for three quarters of the year in the subsequent year, the cost to do that is estimated to be $1.6 million To provide it 24 seven coverage or half of that roughly actually less than half 714,000 would provide staffing the jail for 12 hours a day would still be a negative impact obviously on us and other agencies but it wouldn't be completely closed down.
This year's cuts, in closing let me just say that this year's cuts to the Sheriff's Office are worse in terms of actual dollars than those that we endured during the worst year of the Great Recession. And the really scary part is that this is a five-year problem and that we're looking at the potential for even more challenges in the future. It's going to require a long range solution not five one-year solutions And the solutions I would submit to the county's budget problems are not going to be found by making cuts.
We definitely will not be able to sustain the level of cuts that we have on the table today without some very, very drastic reductions in or elimination of services that we provide. Now, that's not to say that the Sheriff's Office is not going to be doing everything it can to try to address the issue. In fact, we will be putting into motion A civilianization plan which is strategic in nature and should result in some meaningful cost savings in the 2018-19 budget and beyond.
But it will take a year or so for that to even be put into motion, in terms of having to develop and hire and train and implement those new positions if that goes through. The solution I would submit to the budget problems need to be found in either finding additional revenue sources or totally eliminating certain services. I know it's a difficult proposition. I know there is no easy answer, but I would encourage you to really think and look outside the box. There was a very intriguing editorial in yesterday's paper about the potential for starting a bank. And I don't know if that's feasible. I don't know if that would work or not, but it was at least a very interesting idea. And I would encourage you to look for those kinds of ideas maybe beyond the traditional ways Because simply put, we are not going to be able to continue the way we're going.
I couldn't be prouder of the people who work in the Sheriff's Office and what they have done to adapt to the reductions that we've had to take into effect. And I know that they will step up this coming year but we just can't keep doing this. We have to figure out some alternative way. Thank you.
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Questions for Sheriff Brown? And going to public comment.
Chair Hartman, members of the board we have seven requests to speak. We're gonna start with Daryl Parker followed by Jonathan Abboud.
Good morning Chair Hartman, members of the board. I'm Darryl Parker and I am the Court Executive Officer for the Superior Court. With me today is our Presiding Judge, Judge Patricia Kelly. I didn't know which form to fill out, the blue one or the white one in opposition or in favor of because I want to first thank the CEO for the recommendation to restore an additional $300,000 on top of a proposed $500,000 restoration But I am opposed to the word optional.
The government code mandates under the Trial Court Realignment Act that court services stay at the level they were when initially enacted in 10-11 and any reduction in positions is not anticipated, that's our position. So that while $800,000 goes partway to filling the 1.2 million dollar identified gap I don't think it meets the obligation recognizing that's a difficult position to be in given the financial constraints you are under now We're willing and I propose that we have a presiding judge and sheriff's task force convened in the coming year to find other efficiencies in the court and the sheriff's operations, to try to gain some ground in that gap. So our position is that there can't be a reduction in services to court services but appreciation for the $800,000 and think it gets us partway through the year so thank you for your time.
And I have some questions for you up here Supervisor Adam and then Williams.
As far as I understand the sheriff is entirely in control of how many people Show up every day at the courts. Not not under the act if no no but I mean. He has authority to come back or Mr. Maliki and he's got a mic. I mean you know what's the answer to the question? You are entirely in control. I mean I realize that you're placing a dollar value on these number of people but in the event that that doesn't get transferred by us for that purpose because even though we have an understanding on the dais here that we put the extra 300,000 on top of the 500,000 in that column.
It really goes in the pot of the sheriff's money and then he does whatever he wants with it. Isn't that true?
Supervisor Adam to the chair our understanding after consultation with County Council's office is that we are mandated to provide the level of service equivalent to what the state reimburses the county for. And
I'm not actually asking you I'm asking you just a basic budget question. We're transferring at the end of the day here, because we talk about all these things that are on your list and everything but that's not really… That's sort of an idea for you guys and you guys go manage your budget the way you see fit without any oversight from us isn't that right?
I don't think the sheriff would like me to characterize that as not having oversight, but the sheriff does have the discretion as to how the allocated funding is expended.
Right so he could change it. That's all subject to change without notice right? You're not making a commitment. I'm not sure that I would
phrase it quite that way.
Well you know you can try and rephrase it if you like.
Supervisor Adam if I might interrupt and allow Mr. Casoni to at least set the baseline here.
For the record we're side by side now.
Chair and supervisors, I think we're having a discussion about two separate items. The first is under the County Budget Act and I think we have some fairly clear guidance from the Attorney General on this point that once the board The first one is that the board allocates into budget allotments both for the district attorney and the sheriff. Those are special officers under the County Budget Act, and then the board no longer controls the manner in which those in which the personnel are dispersed essentially so that's Budget Act concept. The second one that Mr Parker was talking about was the Superior Court Security Act and staffing levels within
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But
I think when we when we think about once you allocate the money into certain budget areas, the sheriff and the district attorney then maintain control in the manner in which they deploy their forces. Right? Okay.
Can I just add to that? Excuse me, Supervisor Adam through the chair. You're right literally that as the sheriff I have control over the budget once the budget is established but the reality is I've come back to you next year for the budget and if I'm asking you for a restoration or enhancement or something this specific to a particular item. You can be assured that myself and my staff we're going to do our level best to use that money for that funding.
And where we are today is as a result of the fact that the budget is being potentially cut by so much that we have to look everywhere and see what are we being Where are we operating in essence at a deficit? And unfortunately, the court is one of those areas where we have historically been providing services well in advance or in excess of what we have been reimbursed for.
Well okay that all being said you know we're dealing with the realities up here and if short of coming up with revenue, maybe you guys all want to show up the next time we have a revenue generation project. You know last week would've been a great time that would have been 1.5 million So, you know if we could have worked out a way to make the short-term rentals happen on a reasonable and rational basis then you know we would have had maybe 1.5 or pretty close to it. Maybe we would've lost a couple of them but you know so those things if you guys are concerned about those things.
They've got to be, you know we need to hear your input last week not just this week. And the thing is we're trying to square a circle here and at some point you're just going to have to be the sheriff and send how many bodies down to the courts you deem appropriate.
Supervisor Williams then Supervisor Wolf.
Well I did have a question about what we are legally mandated to do in terms of funding. And then that's a question for Mr. Gazzone and then a question for you is just what proportion of the courts, of the civil courts are family courts versus non-family law courts? I know that changes as the docket changes but give me a rough portion because that's the example that you used for safety issues.
Supervisor Williams we don't break them out that way. All of our civil courts actually hear a mix of family law, civil and probate and could hear any of those on any given day. There are some calendars on given days for each of the seven civil courtrooms that hear a majority of family law they have a designated day but I'd have to do the math I didn't I didn't do the full-time equivalent per judicial officer of family court hearings because on any given day, any of the civil courts could handle any of those mix. And if you recall an image of a man shooting his attorney as he was hiding behind a palm tree in the Van Nuys Court some years ago it was a probate matter from which that emanated so assuming that civil translates into civility is an assumption that we can't make in these courtrooms.
So that's my short answer. Judge Kelly is here.
Our calendars with the indicated calendars are online on our website and so anyone can go online and see which calendars are running in any of the courtrooms For ease of purpose, and I'm sorry to interrupt but to answer your question supervisor through the chair. The court does have running civil calendars in any of the departments both north and south that incorporate both family law small claims unlawful detainers Both in the Santa Barbara and Santa Maria courts any day of the week And often have criminal calendars or cases that are transferred over especially in the Santa Maria campus Monday through Friday
I appreciate that. I guess the tough thing here is that we have the issue of a number of people on patrol, which is about the safety of the general public at all times. We have the issue about the staffing at the jail, which is mainly about the safety of officers, CO's and those that are incarcerated And it's hard to say, to wrestle with this idea that we should just have all of them staffed when we have to make some tough calls about the safety and patrol and the number of people in patrol. We have to make some tough calls about the number of people being staffed in the jail We're going to also have to make some tough calls about the number of courts that are staffed and so it makes sense to me to at least staff those where the danger is higher.
And so, some level of assessing the risk I really think is in order. I want to remind folks that there is a $9 million fund that was established by the previous board for staffing the new jail. Any of the hires that we do in custody deputies, many of them will be headed over to the new jail. It's an appropriate use of funds To use some of those funds to pre hire now.
And so you know I, I know this is a tough budget but that you know to me what I heard was the most important thing was patrol loss and lost time. So that's the restorations at least that you know that I supported in there that this board supported it's I think it's harder when we're dealing with two big departments, mental health and sheriffs both of which ultimately is a public safety issue. Sort of like front end public safety or back end public safety and we need some of both but those departments if you look at the numbers they are both too large to restore both just mathematically So I guess I'm still wrestling with some of the issues, but I think that thus far the proposed restorations that the CEO has recommended sounds good. Sounds like a happy medium to at least doing what we can do and require us to assess really the risk of some courts versus others and And gives us the funds to cover some of them but not all of them.
Supervisor Wolf. Did you want to say something?
Yeah, I just wanted to recognize that I do appreciate the recommended restoration. The court's position however is that we have a difference of opinion with Mr. Gazzone regarding the interpretation of the code. We believe that the code in plain language says that the sheriff is obligated to continue staffing at service levels established in 1011. If there was some flaw in that calculation at that time, that needs to be corrected and we're certainly willing to work with the sheriff to go to the state to correct that. But we don't think that obviates the obligation to continue to provide that level of service that was established at that time.
And I would just say that it would be highly irregular for us to choose their interpretation over our own county council's interpretation. To me, we have to make the decision of what's right and wrong On this and it would be wrong not to try to provide some level of protection. But I also think it would be wrong to say that every court has to be staffed at all times when we are under staffing patrol and understaffing custody.
Supervisor Wolf. Thank you, Madam Chair. You know when this came to us at the budget workshop I was pleased to hear from our presiding judge discussing the importance of this particular item and I kind of threw out a figure because I really didn't have a handle on what was required of the county or the sheriff And so I came up with, I think it was 500,000. And I appreciate as do you Mr. Parker our CEO's recommendation although it was optional but I believe that we should move forward with that.
But since that time, since the budget workshop I did have an opportunity to look at the code section about funding for I want to start by saying thank you to the board of Supervisors for this opportunity. I think it's our responsibility as a board to make sure that we allocate the funds, at least to keep it stable where we were last year. And I think what I also heard from a letter from Judge Kelly and I heard from the sheriff is that both departments are going to be working together this year And I anticipate that will occur and we'll have an MOU, and everyone will move forward. But at this point, I feel that it's our responsibility to live up to the obligations that we at least have done in the past. And again, I think that the optional recommendation is a good one to keep us in line, keep all of you folks And I think that's the approach that we should take.
I think it is the right thing since we have not kept up with the obligation of ensuring that we have our annual MOU in place.
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So we are back to public comment?
Thank you.
Jonathan Abboud be followed by Spencer Brant.
Madam Chair, Board of Supervisors, thanks for having us today. I'm here to speak in favor of the recommendation for $475,000 to the Ivy Foot Patrol. Public safety is a top priority for Isla Vista. I think that's been made very clear over the past couple years over what the residents of my community have been advocating for. The foot patrol is already an understaffed agency. There aren't enough officers for the amount of people and it hasn't even grown consistent with the population in the past, so any reduction in services would mean more problems and loss of safety now. I think that's been a historically proven fact that as services especially in safety go down problems go up. So I just want to thank the CEO for making the original $1.4 million recommendation and then now this additional 475,000 I think is critical to maintaining just basic functions of government and safety in Isla Vista.
And I think it's a great idea to have a plan developed and I think the Community Services District is a great opportunity to have local involvement in developing that plan. Thank you.
Spencer Brandt. To be followed by Ethan Bertrand.
Good morning Chair Hartman and members of the board. My name is Spencer Brandt, I'm a second year student at UC Santa Barbara also an elected director on the Isla Vista Community Services District though not representing them here today. I am here today on behalf of over 15,000 Isla Vista residents many of whom couldn't make it here today because they are taking finals this is the first day of UCSB finals week so let's wish them all good luck.
But I really wanted to speak in support of the CEO's recommendation to restore $575,000 or $475 hundred thousand dollars to Isla Vista foot patrol. I'm really cognizant of the structural changes that the county is going through right now and the difficult decisions that are gonna be have to be made but I really want to implore you to approve this recommendation Now as the community services district we are beginning the process of negotiating with the university for the pledged $200,000 grant and Isla Vistas have really identified public safety is a top priority. Within the past couple of months there's been a lot of grassroots activism for improving Thank you.
Public safety is improving in Isla Vista though it's something that I would really like to point out. I think that a strong indicator of this is the numbers from this past Deltopia, in proportion to crowd size arrests citations medical transports were all down this year and the community I think really was able to do better at keeping the event local than it had in the past.
Just as important and a lot harder I think to quantify is the fact that from my perspective, conversations that I've had with many residents interactions between the community and law enforcement were much better at this last event. And I just wanted to point that out. As the community services district, one of our big projects is to help the county relieve some of its burden that law enforcement operations in Isla Vista cost.
With this recommendation, the Community Services District has a role to play in helping develop a plan for public safety in Isla Vista that is more sustainable. The Sheriff spoke in his presentation about how there's a need for long-term solutions and I would really love to have the Community Services District be a part of that so thank you very much.
Supervisor Adam, did you have a question?
Yeah well yeah my question and I intend no disrespect this is going to sound a little snarky but I apologize in advance for that. You know where were you last Tuesday?
Where was I last Tuesday? What time?
It was a long
hearing. I'm sorry I say it because I was probably in class
Yeah well you know the thing is if you were here last Tuesday we might have had another million and a half dollars. See but we don't so now what's your suggestion for replacing that? I want to challenge all of the speakers that come up today And it's a rhetorical question. You weren't here but the thing is I want to challenge everybody that comes up today to tell us where to get the money you know don't just come up here with your handout and say you know give me give me my money because my things really important because frankly they're all important everything's important. But we are in an environment here that we are starting to implode And this isn't going to go away. You're going to come back next year but if you just show up at that one hearing this this hearing and say you know I'll just restore my money.
You know that's not gonna work. That's not none of this is gonna work. You know we've got to come up with revenue So you need to be watching the agenda every week and showing up at the revenue generation times and saying hey, you guys. You need to adopt this thing or leave it alone or not crush business So that we can continue to have the revenue that we need.
That's all I want to say and I don't want to say that to everybody in the room who is going to come up here because there are a number of other people on different subjects who are going to come up and ask us for money, and they need to be prepared with where we should get this money.
So just to be clear Supervisor Adam your rhetorical question will be asked each time or is this a blanket?
No that was a blanket request. Supervisor Williams. In the interest of time.
I'll just say while your emphasis on revenue, I agree that we need to do that. Your question to this individual is misplaced. He and the subsequent speaker are among the people who walked the most precincts in order to raise revenue for Isla Vista services, so while we often have speakers who come up without regard to what this stuff actually costs In this case you're querying one of the people who worked hardest to make sure that there was some revenue for those services.
Well and I applaud you for that, however this body gets most of its money over 90% of its money from property tax revenue and if somebody builds a new house Then they get to pay in and so that's most mostly where our money comes from. So you know we're not we're not out there trying to float bonds. In fact I don't think you want us as a 20 something to go out and borrow money that you get to pay back to do the things we should have done. I
don think funding operations such as law enforcement using bonds would be a good idea now.
Excellent. So, you know I'm up here every week trying to protect your interests so that we don't go do things that cost extra money and even deferring maintenance puts it right on you because as we walk away from Our public lives. You know we're most of us are over 50 and you know we're on the back side of life and you're on the front side, and you're going to pay for all this stuff that we defer today so anyway thank you very much.
I recognize a lot of the challenges and I really want to thank county staff in the board for this process.
Supervisor Wolf and then back to public comment.
Yeah thank you and thank you for our public speaker I think maybe Mr. Adam missed the presentation from Mr. Holland about the increase a significant increase in our property values, and you know I'm telling you that whole notion about Revenue generating purposes is just kind of gets old because it's. It goes without saying I don't think we're stupid up here. We know we can't spend money that we don't have what I think it comes down to is being smart and And you know just development for development's sake in my opinion is not always a good thing. And I would like someone to come into my district because I know that best, the fact that we are doing revenue generating sources, we have a new hotel, we have homes probably over 200 homes being built in my district.
So for people to say we're not doing anything, I think they really need to look a little bit deeper. Maybe there's some concern with certain development processes. Well you know what? Not every development is a good thing and I go back to my trying to be balanced and I wish that other people Thank you Madam Chair.
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Thank you very much. Good morning Madam Chair and members of the board, my name is Ethan Bertrand and I'm the Board President of the Isla Vista Community Services District. And I am speaking on behalf of the board today to express the support that we voted on at our April 20 meeting in support of the Sheriff's request for full restoration of funding for the Isla Vista foot patrol. With that in mind I am very grateful I'm pleased to see the CEO's recommendation of this additional one-time funding to meet the needs of the Isla Vista Foot Patrol through the end of the year. And at that time for the Sheriff's Office and UCSB, along with hopefully the CSD in the room looking to see what the best sustainable options for moving forward are for providing for the needs of Isla Vista residents.
Now, as my colleague Director Brandt mentioned, Isla Vista is getting much safer. But we still do have many issues of public safety. When I first saw the recommendation or the preliminary budget notice that showed the proposed cuts it was scary because my top concern is that when my neighbor, when my friend, when my constituent calls 911 in a time of an emergency they get the help they needed. And that was something that really hit home for me when I got a call at 2 in the morning, a few weeks ago, that a close family member of mine had been violently assaulted in Isla Vista. And I was very happy when I called 911 and I received the support I needed. That's something we certainly want to make sure is available for all Isla Vista residents as we continue to make this community safer.
Lastly, I'll say that the Isla Vista foot patrol Was founded as one of the first community policing models in the United States. Since then, the population of Isla Vista has drastically increased and the staffing for Isla Vista has proportionally decreased. The Isla Vista patrol station. It's important as we go forward that we continue to emphasize community policing and I'm confident that this additional funding will guarantee that for the year to come. And I look forward to hearing the discussion to create a more sustainable model going forward. Thank you very much.
Our next speaker is Kirsten Deschler to be followed by Mr. Caldwell.
Good morning Madam Chair, members of the board my name is Kirstin Deschler and I'm director of government relations at UC Santa Barbara. I'm here today with several of my colleagues. I had initially come today to express our concern about proposed cuts to the sheriff's budget and how they affect the Ivy Foot Patrol so it was very happy to see the CEO's recommendations And we support the CEO's recommendation to set aside funds for Isla Vista Foot Patrol. The county, the sheriff, the university, we share a common goal about the safety and security of the residents of Isla Vista. They're our students, they're Santa Barbara City College students, they're long term residents and they're members of our community. So we're committed to working in partnership on looking at issues going forward regarding safety.
We value this collaboration, it's a good relationship. As Ethan mentioned, it's one of the oldest models of community policing in our area and it's successful model. As you know, the university and the county entered in 2010 into a cooperative agreement that guarantees minimum staffing levels for the Ivy Foot Patrol and minimum policing levels for the UC Police Department.
And those are mandated in this cooperative agreement. We are committed to looking at this agreement and we appreciate the year grace to look at this and see if there are other alternatives and other things that we can work on together. To make sure that our community is safe as you may know any changes to these staffing levels do require the commitment and the change of by the board has to approve it as well as the regions but we're committed to working with you in partnership and collaboration we very much value a good relationship To answer your question that I know you're going to ask me, since May 23rd 2014 the University has made a substantial commitment in safety at Isla Vista. We've spent over $2 million dollars in direct funding to Isla Vista and this is over and above our funding for the seven police officers that we fund in Isla Vista foot patrol That money has gone toward additional patrols on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights.
We make sure that we provide that service as we also call in other UC police officers from other campuses to provide that service to make sure that our community is safe and we work in partnership with the Sheriff's Department to enable that to happen. We've also made a significant commitment in purchase radios with the Sheriff's Department to enable the Sheriff's Department and our police department to talk to each other. That's really important, obviously. And we've also really changed our strategy about how we engage students and provide alternative programming on our campus so during Deltopia and Halloween people have a place to go other than Isla Vista. So we are very committed to look at unique and creative ideas for how we can address and improve the safety and security in Isla Vista.
As a public agency, we're well familiar with the challenges that you face in terms of budget cuts. And we just ask that you consider and support the CEO's recommendation to enhance that money and put that money toward Isla Vista Foot Patrol. Thank you.
Mr. Caldwell? And then we're going to go to Santa Maria for two armadillos as our final speaker.
Andy Caldwell with Colab. We don't think the board members are stupid but we do think there is a fiscal and mental disconnect and I'm going to just explain that in no uncertain terms. You should. Harry Hagan said that he thought the one point five million was only half of what's out there and I tend to agree with him so we're probably talking three million a year on short term rentals plus you guys shut down basically shut down PCEC which was another three to five million a year in total property taxes.
So we're talking anywhere from 5 to 8 million dollars you shut down So don't tell us we're not, the taxpayers aren't paying enough or the state's not paying enough or we're in a bad economy. We're not in a bad economy and we're the highest taxed state in the nation. You're cutting public safety and I agree with you Supervisor Wolf and Williams. I think foster care children should, we should fund that to the max but you're cutting those programs to the bone while you are protecting your sacred cows To the death.
For instance, your energy programs community choice aggregation there's no emergency to do community choice aggregation it doesn't matter what we do most of the emissions are in the Bay Area and L.A.. Or China, Pakistan and India. There's $2 million. The Human Services Commission you're spending 1.2 million on human services commission. How is that an emergency compared to foster care or the rape and sexual assault capital of the county Isla Vista?
$600,000 for the employees university. That's not mandated we didn't have that until Mike Brown came here. Not saying it's not worth something but you're cutting public safety to the bone and right there that was almost four million dollars that I just highlighted in stuff that's a completely superfluous to Supervisor Williams what's my job? Is it Employee University over safety? Employee University over foster children? Is the Human Services Commission more important than services to humans?
There's your disconnect. I'm not saying any, I know you're all smart but there is a huge disconnect. STRs, PCEC that was just in this last year and the irony is for instance Supervisor Carbajal was on the PCEC well we can't approve this oil project because of threats To safety, safety impacts. What's the real safety? An oil project that's been there 114 years or cutting police, DA, probation and public defender?
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We're going to Santa Maria for Joe Armendariz.
There you go. Can you hear me now? Coming to you from the colonies up in the North County. I'm Joe Armendariz representing Santa Barbara County Taxpayers Association. Because I can't imagine that that wouldn't be part of your economic vision. In terms of how much revenue that generates to the county, we're not talking about approving a new project. We're simply talking about making sure we make the necessary improvements to maintain our existing infrastructure that would protect our existing operations, that protect our existing revenue sources. The fact that that's not a part of the economic strategy of the county, I think is very problematic. You know, Andy and I have been participating in this process for what seems like a hundred years and it's always the same.
It's a feast or famine process. We're eight years into an economic expansion. The notion that in what is the sixth largest economy in the world speaking about California And all the tremendous innovation and high-tech opportunities, and revenue resource potential. Our comparable advantages in California in general and Santa Barbara County particular are tremendous. So I would submit to you that it's absolutely unacceptable that you would be in the predicament that you're in. The Taxpayers Association historically has been adamantly against making cuts to public safety. We would encourage you to restore and expand every dime that your sheriff is requesting. I'd also submit to you that it's tragic that the narrative today so far, and I recognize we're only halfway through, is welfare and big prisons.
I'm all in favor of incarcerating people who are committing crimes, but I would submit to you that unless we fully fund our education programs which require property tax dollars to do it. Unless we have an economic empowerment mission statement for the county board, we are never going to be able to build prisons big enough to incarcerate all of the people who are victims of a lack of hope A lack and who are victims of unsustainable despair. We don't have one county, one future. I would submit to you that we have two counties and two futures. We have a rich county and a poor county. You're rich in the south, we're poor up here in the north, and we need all of the support from the Board of Supervisors to begin Minimize and equalize the wealth disparity that exists between the north and the south.
And we would suggest that you do that through proper resource, ethical resource development strategies. Thank you.
Supervisor Lavanino?
Thank you Madam Chair. Well one of the things, and I understand there are a lot Increase costs with the sheriff's department it's some of what you know the board's responsibility. With increased salaries and there are increased pension costs. But you know when I hear that we're. You know now it's getting out into the public that we are decimating and we're we're destroying the sheriff's department It is fewer people, but there are more dollars year over year.
So and that's not the fault of the sheriff. That's decisions that we've made and also comes from the Board of Retirement and what goes into a pension. But I just want the public to understand that we are not allocating fewer resources to the Sheriff's Department. They're actually getting An increase year over year of what we did last year. And so the reality is though, and this is for every department, the allocation goes up and the level of service goes down.
And that is a function of the pension crisis that we're in. And so, and that's going to continue to happen Unless there's some serious course correction, it's going to be increased allocations year over year with a decreased level of service. So I'm just trying to make that point.
Supervisor Williams?
Just to add to that point, this is last year's budget $132.5 million. This year's recommended budget before us is $138.5 million. So that's a $5.9 million increase, not a decrease of our commitment. It's just the times that we are in are challenging. That revision of our projected rate of return from 75 to 70 instead of 7.25 is creating a lot of challenges for us to solve and This is one of them. I just want to say that I do believe that the CEO's revised recommendations on this strikes the right kind of balance and I hope we'll support it.
Mr. Allen, was that our last public speaker?
Yes Madam Chair
Thank you I did want to say a couple of things particularly about Ivy Foot Patrol and I also am very supportive of the CEO's restoration there and that holds the line while the county and UC and CSD can have further discussions about how best to address safety concerns there I also want to thank District Attorney Dudley for the IV safe discussions that she holds each month. Those bring people from UC, from City College, from across the county all the departments together to review and look at conditions in Isla Vista and consider how to improve safety over time. We do find ourselves however at a disadvantage because we don't have adequate data that looks and integrates UCPD sheriff and medical response and fire.
And that is the direction we need to go in the future if we want to really deploy our resources where they're most effective so I hope the discussions will include that item. I think it's very important going forward. Supervisor Wolf, I think you had a question on a different topic for probation? And I
apologize. Miss Taylor, I just have a quick question for you on probation. Thank you for being here. My question has to do with the restoration expansion request and I know it's not up on the slide because I didn't ask you about being here but this is one of the areas that I had brought up during the workshop which was a juvenile field supervision. It was two DPO positions that were We have a number of cases that are scheduled to be eliminated in this again goes to my concern with caseload.
And the restoration week request is noted in the slide says to restore supervision officers to allow appropriate levels of supervision to all I don't know, many years on the Juvenile Justice Coordinating Council and understanding the importance of juvenile field supervision. When we had our last meeting, JJCC meeting on Friday, we got this information they were charts on different offenses of juveniles in our county And what surprised me and was concerning to me is that at the last look at these charts, it was 2015. So whereas we've been seeing a slight decrease in juvenile offenses, particularly violent offenses, now we are starting to see a slight increase.
So just so my colleagues know that this is very concerning to me and gives me even more reason to request when we start doing our requests is to ask that we restore these juvenile field supervision DPO positions. Again it's maintaining the A stable level of service, we're not asking for more. I think in your department we've seen since the recession a decrease of 40 probation officers.
So just like all of the departments. So I think that this is not the time to cut something that's so significant and important. I know we talk about our jail, our beautiful new North County Jail and I would much rather see well we're going to fund that regardless but I think we need to do what we can to keep kids safe and from moving forward in doing anything more serious. So anyway with that do you have any comments?
Supervisor Wolf through the chair. I want to thank you for your support and for acknowledging the increase in that particular slide it was violent offenses and it was misdemeanors and felonies, and it did show a significant increase we had from 2008 through 2015 seeing a decrease in the sustained petitions for felonies and misdemeanors but in 2015 there was a significant increase of over 40 percent so that is something that were keeping our eye on For the, just as caseloads currently with the reduction of the two deputy probation officers it is taking our caseloads to an average of 38-40 per officer and those are high risk cases. And with the 2 additional if we were to restore the 2 deputy probation officers it would take us right around 30-32 which would be much more manageable.
And we certainly want to be able to be preventive relative or versus reactive and we also want to be able to keep a level of case management where we're providing field visits, home visits, visits in the schools. So we recognize that there's a lot of restorations before you so I thank you for highlighting the two deputy probation officers.
And thank you for coming up again without any advance notice. Thank you for that.
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I've been taking a poll of the supervisors up here when to take a break and I think the majority says we should keep going moving forward. So that takes us to the next functional group, community resources and public facilities.
Thank you Madam Chair. We'll move forward as our PowerPoint catches up with us. Our next functional group is the Community Resources and Public Facilities Group. And the PowerPoint of course is in tab 8, and if we talk about one of these specific departments I'll have a tab number for you on that as well. This functional group is comprised of four county departments, the Ag Commissioner, Community Services, Planning and Development and the Public Works Department.
In looking at these departments as they comprise a portion of the county's overall operating expense you can see that as a group they represent 16% of the county budget public works being 10%. Followed by Community Services at 3%, Planning and Development at 2, and the Ag Commissioner and Waste Measures at 1. We don't have any prepared presentations from these departments for your board but if your board would like to hear from any of them they are here and prepared to speak.
I see no lights on so let's turn to public comment.
Chair Hartman members of the board we have three requests to speak. We're going to go to Santa Maria first for Lori Temura and Joe Armendariz and then back to Santa Barbara for Judith Dale. Lori.
Thank you for continuing. Your
third.
Hello, can you hear me now?
We can.
Okay, thank you. This is Lori Tamora and I'm speaking on an item for planning and development. I brought this issue up during the workshops. There is a project that we hope can become part of the long range planning budget which is the circulation element update for Union Valley Parkway extension to the east of the current interchange. That particular project or extension was not Part of the build out of the interchange because it was not on the county circulation element and Caltrans would not allow that connection to occur until the county made a commitment to connecting Santa Maria Way to Union Valley Parkway.
Ironically, this last weekend was the rodeo in Santa Maria for five days. We had Caltrans and police departments literally standing in 101 directing traffic to the Santa Maria Way interchange, and backup going in many different directions. If that connection to Union Valley Parkway can be done as soon as possible, we wouldn't have to put our law enforcement in danger of directing traffic in the middle of the road.
We hope that we can start this process through funding of the circulation element update to connect What we're now calling Rodeo Drive between Santa Maria Way and Union Valley Parkway. And it starts with you, and community planning and development. SB CAG should be a partner in this, the City of Santa Maria, the Elks, and we can move this project forward for the benefit of all. And it is a funded possibility because the revenue generated from this connection would be phenomenal for Santa Maria Valley. Thank you.
Joe Armendariz and then we're going to come back to Santa Maria or Santa Barbara for Judith Dale, then we have some additional requests here in Santa Barbara.
Thank you I'm Joe Armandariz representing Taxpayers Association. I don't need the whole three minutes I just wanted to reiterate a point that I've made in the past in various forums and that is it seems to me that the Planning and Development Department is really the logical economic development department It seems to me that your director, Mr. Russell has put forward an economic vitality document in the past that frankly has not been given the respect or even the consideration that it deserves and again I just think its important to drive home the point I just want to say that in the eighth year of an economic expansion, for us to be looking at how we can nickel and dime this budget to death screams out that the lack of an economic vitality strategy and mission and vision for the county is really The issue In areas of the county being sensitive to Supervisor Wolf's point that perhaps there isn't development needs or even perhaps areas of the county that want that development, but I would submit that there are areas of the county that does and to the extent that you can remove some of the barriers to that economic development expansion in the county could potentially be very favorable to your budget bottom line.
Thank you.
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And then we'll hear from Susan Williams.
I've sat where you sit hang in there. Thank you very much. I'm here to represent the library advisory committee and obviously I would like for you to maintain the funding that you've supported libraries in the past. In addition I am asking for an additional one time fee to help bridge the gap while While the county and thank you by the way for approving a study to look at how we can be more efficient and effective for operating libraries in the county while that study is going on meanwhile administrative costs are almost tripling.
This year from last year and so I'm asking for a one time increase to get us bridge this gap between Thank you, Mr. President and members of the board. And so I could go on and on about the importance of libraries and how important they truly are. And there's no better way to serve the people of this county than libraries, and parks, and the things that really affect their quality of life directly. But we're in a crisis in libraries this year for this next year because of this almost it's $218,000 increase For administrative costs for our branch libraries this between this year and next year. So I'm asking for some fees for some funds to help bridge that gap while the county does this study to see how we can be more effective and Thank you very much.
Susan Williams and then to be
Good afternoon. I'm a resident of the county unincorporated area in back of Carpinteria.
Could you speak just a little louder? I'm having trouble hearing maybe a little closer to the mic we want to hear every word you say thank you.
I will try. I am a county resident of unincorporated area and I'm also volunteer at the Friends of the Library bookstore in Carpinteria but I'm not representing them And the Carpentry Branch Library is one of the few visible county services in the area. So losing it would be a great disaster. The county library, public library provides a lot of interesting and value-added services for residents and for visitors in Carpinteria.
And we would like to keep it and I hope you will give us the one time funding. Thank you.
Gabby Edwards. And our final speaker is Pat Saley.
Good morning, I too am from Carpinteria. I represent Carpinteria on the Library Advisory Committee and I'm the chair of the Friends of the Carpinteria Library. I won't reiterate what you already know all of us treasure our libraries and we in Carpinteria especially see ours as the center of our community. We are totally appreciative that the county Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
gave the per capita which is the average in California, which is $43 per capita. We wouldn't be begging as we do every year just for the record that's true. We also are counting on And we are so grateful for this idea of the consultant figuring out a better way to administer our libraries. It's a very unusual system that we have here in Santa Barbara County, where the big libraries administer the small. I think it's a conflict of interest.
I know that the president of the Santa Barbara City Library Board has said publicly this system is not serving them, the central library and it's not serving us, our branches. They don't want us anymore. And we've got to figure out a better system and we can admit, we know it might even cost more but it would be a better system for all of us so we're very grateful that there is a consultant coming who might guide us in that direction. Thanks.
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Madam Chairman members of the board my name is Pat Saley. I live downtown. I'm the president of the Friends of the Montecito Library and am I am here representing them. I have also been on the library advisory committee for the last couple of years and have learned a lot about libraries And as I'm sure you're aware of late there has been so much discussion about libraries. And I have to say this is the first time I've ever attended a public hearing where I'm wearing a little kind of like name tag support libraries but I really feel the whole library issue is so important to our communities I too want to thank you for funding the study on organizational, administrative and hopefully funding options for libraries. It seems there's always a way to make a system better and this is the opportunity to explore that and we're hoping and assuming it will be a comprehensive and transparent process because there is so much interest in this subject I understand your budget as it is has not been voted on retains the seven dollars and 80 cents per capita.
Thank you for that. That's very important and that you're as you did last year talking about another 200000 that would be allocated to libraries depending on what city of Carpinteria City of Santa Barbara does administrative fees etc.. So really think both of those the 780 Per capita and the 200,000 are very very important. And just in closing I'd like to thank you for your support of all the county libraries. Thank you.
Good afternoon. I was a branch librarian in Carpinteria for 21 years where I also reside. I retired in March the Santa Barbara library administration budget from the city of Santa Barbara's website shows a 45 percent increase in projected expenditures for the Carpinteria branch for fiscal year 18 and up to 66 percent increase for fiscal year 19. As our local friends of the library groups redouble their commitments I strongly urge the county to at least maintain the same level of support it provided for the libraries as it did in fiscal year 17.
I likewise support the county in pursuing the alternative organizational structure for the branch libraries. My experience during the last year and a half has shown that the Santa Barbara Public Library administration is neither able nor interested in fulfilling its role to provide services and leadership to the branches. Some of the shortcomings include The manager's position that oversees the branches has remained vacant since 2015. The branches are often left in the dark and must deal with conflicting and shifting directions that filter through, and yet the cost to branches for management services has gone up.
Also, we were restricted to the point of absurdity from adding high-quality donated materials such as books and DVDs to our shelves. Meanwhile proposed expenditures for such materials has tripled. Carpinteria Friends of the Library raised thousands of dollars to purchase much-needed computers for public use and our homework center, but so many obstacles were erected that still more than eight months later only a quarter of the funds have been expended.
Another blow to our services was the sudden elimination last week of the longstanding Carpinteria Library Homework Center program and its staff. There's more. We are a heavily used branch in the center of town and we're alarmed by the threats of library closure. I thank you for all your support, and for listening. Thank you.
Madam Chair, Andy Caldwell with COLAB. One of the things I did want to bring up that's positive if you want to see an example of a real performance measure look under the Ag Department page 280 tells you what they do and what the results were every department should have that but in most cases they don't. Get to this point, kind of what Jorm and Daris had mentioned about planning and development in the need you know to generate more income the old-fashioned way by approving new development whether it's business or even residential. Again a lot of your increases here is just the increase in the price of real estate again that's in your budget book toward the back.
One of the problems here There's two major problems as to why, if I had to come up with a theme for this year's budget it would be elephants skating on ice. There's two major fatal flaws in your projections and your outreach. Number one is, oh we're suffering because they reduced the return on investment for pensions from 7 1⁄2 to whatever. The reality is it's supposed to be around 4% to 5%, because our stock market is booming right now and you're still only making 1% to 2%.
The experts I talked to on the show said your real rate of return should be 4 or 5%. So you're really going deeper and deeper into the hole. You're notwithstanding a downturn in the economy, we're in recovery. In essence things can only get worse from here because there will be a market correction. You're not prepared for that. You are not prepared for a market correction You're not prepared for those returns to be etched down even lower.
And then as I mentioned in that last segment, you're for instance just spending $2 million a year on energy related things that don't matter. For all that California does, California's got the sixth largest economy in the world. But it only produces 1% of the greenhouse gas emissions. If we fell into the ocean tomorrow 99% of the greenhouse gas emissions would still be there and they would be growing because China for instance, China grows more every year than we reduce.
So it's a zero sum game you're spending $2 million To pontificate as versus accomplish anything you don't matter. You don't make a difference there in the areas where you could make a difference. You don't have the money because you're spending your money pontificating cut the energies that community choice aggregation coastal resiliency project et cetera et cetera.
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That concludes public comment.
Thank you Supervisor Williams then Wolfe then
Lavanino. I'll say why do you think we matter the same data to me is Is what's powerful the sixth largest economy in the world and 1% of the emissions that didn't happen by accident. That didn't happen without great deal of effort that happened because of strong public policy choices that the citizenry and our elected leaders have made to get to cleaner energy and that is a very important effort in terms of encouraging the rest of the world to continue on. I mean if the federal government were maintaining the commitments of Paris then there might be an argument for okay now everybody else is getting in the act we can slack off a little bit but That's not the case.
To me, the fact that there are a large number of states that are willing to pursue these goals ourselves included is what keeps a lot of the other governments still on board in the world and at least from the conversations that we've had with provincial governments in Mexico, Canada and Germany it matters On the subject of libraries, I think that matters too.
It's a relatively accomplishable amount of money but I'll tell you that the value of that $200,000 is huge because it's about encouraging other local governments to also do what I want to start by saying thank you to all of the board members for their hard work. That $200,000 was from one-time funds but the bottom line is the rest of the county sees us decreasing our funds by 200,000 and I don't think we should. A lot of these libraries are in danger of service cuts that could be in some other instances an entire day or more of service cuts from the administrative fee that's being proposed by the City of Santa Barbara I think we should put $200,000 in a pot for staff to prevent library closures hour and day closures of our libraries. And I trust their discretion to use it where that is needed in order to stop such a cut Taking place I think especially the small libraries that are already only open in many cases 5 days a week are particularly vulnerable at what level of closure do people just stop having hope.
I want to start by saying thank you to the city of Carpinteria They're using the same logic we were to at least, the recommended budget is to decrease their funding level. We need to say something to them to make sure that they maintain their funding level and I think this would send a strong signal.
If I might interject, you chair the library advisory committee. I had a question regarding the budget hearings, the budget workshops rather where we had a recommendation from the library advisory committee to go with a new allocation of the per cap funding. It's my understanding that the library advisory committee changed their recommendation in a subsequent meeting and to go with the I would like to revisit that and go with the library advisory committee recommendation.
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Unfairness in allocation is just a lot harder edge when it means that maintaining their per capita for goalie could mean whole day closures for other smaller libraries if we put this $200,000 out there. We could accomplish both ends and so to me that would be the way to go I think that it would be appropriate You know back off the per capita change if we had this fund out there to prevent.
You know library closures because the combination of factors would otherwise cause the small libraries to face that.
And I would be supportive of that.
Supervisor Wolf and then Lavanina. Thank you Madam Chair, I appreciate the speakers today. I understood that the Santa Barbara City Council was going to be looking at this issue today and I submitted a letter to the mayor and council members and some if not all of the friends groups I did that on Friday. I also am looking at our budget And and reconciling my recommendations in accordance with some of the new information we have from our CEO on additional funds.
One time funds in particular I had looked at increasing our per capita to nine dollars from our current 780. And of course that whatever we do goes to all the libraries in the county And I know that we mentioned or Supervisor Williams mentioned 200,000. I think as we I think the bottom line is is that I heard at least maybe three of us are interested in one time funding to the libraries and we'll have to discuss the amount but I think whatever we do we have to remember that that amount will be distributed to all of the libraries So North and South County. So whatever we're doing for this interim year to help South County libraries, we have to give the same amount to the North County. And I believe and even if it's not $9, I have three different options here.
Eight dollars and 80 cents per capita would generate about four hundred fifty thousand dollars in one time funds. So I am definitely open not just open. I would encourage us to move in that direction and if that's what you need Mr. Williams to move forward with what Ms. Hartman said then let's just I don't know why that's why the two are relevant but if that's what you need then let's make that final statement That we maintain our per capita status quo.
Supervisor Wolf I just want to make sure I understand are you talking about the allocation formula and how it's applied to the different libraries or are you talking about the per capita 780, would you clarify your final sentence there?
Okay I was talking. I wanted to originally just talk about one time funding to the libraries and I was looking at $500,000 but the number was suggested to make it 200,000.
I'm fine with 500
okay. So so that will be something that we'll talk about when we get into the nitty gritty so that's my suggestion for for the one-time funds and then given what Mister Williams was saying He would move forward with the official recommendation from this board that the per capita is status quo even though the library advisory committee has already has already said that I'm not really sure what why we have to say it but if we do it sounds like we can and and let's just do it too clean everything up does that.
Yes that helps. Thank you and I do believe we need to because the board had one recommendation or one direction to Mr. Chapman and now we have a different one in terms of how to allocate the per cap money across the libraries. Supervisor Lavinia.
All right well y'all are trying to make me quit. I know but I'm going to stay in Calgon take me away. All right. 500,000 let's make it a million. She doesn't know that
I have it all figured out.
Well hey let's just let you take it over alright?
No I'm not going to because
you'll
probably see that I'm more conservative than you will be.
Oh lord I do not think so okay. I can't wait. That I almost wanted let's just do it right now okay. So I had a question from Dr. Russell though and that's about the UDP what Ms. Tomura was talking about. So I know we had taken hoops kind of out of your, your work structure. So is there, when will we be able to determine whether or not
we'll be able to do that UV peach? Supervisor Labanino through the chair once the determination process is over and I will be issuing that determination on Thursday then if that concludes then we could slot that project in and it would be more or less Equivalent in terms of the resources that we would be saving. Okay great thank you very much.
Supervisor Williams and then Supervisor Adam.
I guess the question would it be helpful to make a motion or are we getting a direction from Mona and Mr. Chapman?
From
supervisors? On the library issue.
I think it would be something you'll be discussing when you have your board deliberations.
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I'll just make the explanation that to me, the only reason why these issues are linked at all is because they receive such a small share per capita. The vulnerability of the small libraries is higher to the administrative fee and because they are already only open for well In many cases, five days a week at anemic hours during those five days a week. And so that's why I do think whether it's $200,000 or $500,000 whatever we can support That I would advocate that it be used by staff to prevent closures in any of the libraries.
I'm going to go ahead and make a motion. I want to start by saying that we don't operate per capita at all in some cases. In Santa Maria, the Santa Maria operates the Kiyama library if we were just relying off of per capita for the Kiyama library there's no way there's just too few people out there to operate a library and so in many other areas including We give people what they need right. And we try to keep they try to keep all the libraries open and that's me should be our goal keeps them all open.
Supervisor
Adam. Maybe I missed something was there a source of funds on this?
Well there will be when we when we do that. When we do our deliberations
is that when we find out how conservative you are?
Uh huh.
OK. All right. Just checking
supervisor. Thank you
chair it just it just hit me when I was looking at this and we've talked about balance today and there's our pie chart on our operating expenditures so we talk about balance I think it's pretty clear the areas that we're spending a lot of money in which might be rightfully so. But there's, I think that is a very good chart to show you where our money does go and what our priorities are. So if those are your priorities, you might think that looks right. Others would think that it's a little imbalanced but I don't think you can look at that and say public works is getting way too much of the money there.
Okay I think we've come to the end of this section. We're ready to go into closed session Mr. Casoni would you care to tell us what we're doing?
Chair Hartman, I believe today the board's preference was to not have closed session and do that on Wednesday.
Oh on Wednesday okay so we actually get lunch. Okay and 45 minutes? Okay. Forty five minutes and we'll be back about quarter till.
Yeah, but go ahead and start her. Oh OK, so the first thing is. Yeah. ¶¶
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Good afternoon. We are reconvening the June 12, 2017 Board of Supervisors budget hearings and we're starting off the afternoon with the functional group overview of support services.
Thank you Madam Chair. As you mentioned, we're moving on to Support Services Functional Group. Here in the slide you can see that the functional group for general government and support services is comprised of the audit controller, the clerk recorder assessor, human resources, general services and the treasurer tax collector. Looking at this category as a percentage of the county's overall expense expenses that makes up 16 percent or one point I'm sorry one hundred sixty six point one million.
On the right hand side you can see how that's broken down by departments North County Jail making it up 7 percent general services 4 percent and the other department so much smaller piece of the pie. We don't have any planned presentations from departments in this functional group, although certainly they're available for your board's questions.
I don't see any lights so let's go to public comment.
Chair Hartman and members of the Board we have two requests to speak on this group. We'll hear from Kathy Staples and then Ellen Sutterfield and actually three and then Mr. Caldwell. Kathy Staples.
Thank you Madam Chair, board members and supervisors. I have a minute please madam from Alan Sutterfield if I may capture one of his minutes. All right let's start shall we? I'm Kathy Staples I'm a board member. I'm
sorry we don't allow people to allocate time to others so you do have your three minutes.
Thank you, Madam. I'm a board member of the Santa Maria Community Television and I am a Comcast cable rate payer in Orkut. We are requesting that your board direct your county staff to share a percentage of the existing North County public access Comcast cable TVs fees Collected by the county with the Santa Maria public access TV station The county uses these peg fees for its County Government channel 20, which runs only programs produced by the county and some educational institutions it does not provide a Channel for programs produced by the public nor does it provide access to a studio to create those programs instead? The county helps fund and utilizes TV Santa Barbara a state-of-the-art media center resources for airing programming for the county including education, government and public programs.
The list of the funders for TV Santa Barbara is in your packet that I've handed you as well as a list of the large staff that they have. The problem is none of the PEG funding at the county receives from Comcast Cable annually this year about $94,105 has been given to North County to the Santa Maria Community TV Media Center We are asking this board to direct staff to share a percentage of the existing public access cable fees in equity and fairness in serving both city and county residents that is now funded by city ratepayers. The City of Santa Maria has a studio and three public channels, 23 for programs for government, 24 for programs for educational institutions, and 25 for programs by members of the public. This is fair and equitable on how the services are provided to the people who actually pay for them and how those fundings are distributed.
The county would then begin spending those public fees paid by Orchid residents for the purpose that they were intended. This way, the county would be doing a service for North County residents without having to start its own public access TV studio or channel in Santa Maria and the county can take its full responsibility in providing the services as the tax and fees were intended.
We've crunched the numbers. County staff estimates between $80,000 and $90,000 of DVCA PEG revenues that are paid annually by Comcast into North County. The unincorporated North County geographical area served by Comcast has about 49,000 residents according to a Census Bureau. ORCiT PEG fees are collected by the county government. Orchid population is 29,908.
That is about 60% of the population. 60% of $90,000 is 54,630. And that is your time. Thank you madam and you have all the additional details and data in the packet. Thank you.
Andy Caldwell and that wraps up our public comment on this section.
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Madam Chair, members of the board. Andy Caldwell representing CoLab. As many well actually I think this may have been before any of you were on the board a long time ago there was a thing called the ERAF shift And the ERAF shift literally stole probably, I would think it's probably between one to $200 million by now cumulatively from counties. The state of California could not fulfill its mandates to the schools so they decided to shift property tax dollars from the county to the schools. And then they allowed the counties to offer a new tax measure. I think it may have even been 172, I don't remember. Anyway the point is even with that tax measure you lost tens of millions of dollars per year In light of that, we've always felt that the county should charge the schools full cost for the services you provide.
And your board's doing this to the general public You're charging full cost recovery but we don't believe you are charging full cost recovery to the government entities that you serve through the assessor's office, tax collector and things like that. I talked to Harry Hagen today and he did confirm that the schools only pay 20% of the costs because they got it out by the state law but that state law should be changed.
They've got the ERAF monies, they should be paying full freight. We didn't have enough time because I don't want to complain because he gave me so much time in April but the issue is that April is now becoming the real budget hearing. Where you have the department presentations, you have the debates and now this is more of a cursory thing as evidenced by the fact that there's not even any presentations.
I'd like to ask a question for instance under human resources this department only has like 30 employees and they spent $177,000 on furniture computers and supplies. That's like five thousand dollars per person There was over $100,000 spent on carpet for social services in Lompoc. We don't understand those kinds of expenses and of course there's also Data that we used to have in the budget books over the years that are gone now. This budget book it's getting better every year bit for instance in public health there used to be this thing called the broken appointment rate. There was upwards of 25 percent and some of these clinics people make an appointment and didn't show up That kind of detail that could really tell you whether we're throwing money at a program and is it really being used, is no longer in these books.
But like I said your staff's getting better putting some of the data back in but we'd like to ask you to talk about full cost recovery thank you.
Okay back to the board any questions? I do have a proposal for general services agency. I would like to have 9000 go in for the former Supervisor Farr's third district office in Isla Vista to be used by the community services district In Isla Vista in exchange for providing services that is overseeing the community resource center and the community center when it becomes operational. So in other words we would allow them to use the room, it has a $9000 value and they would provide services for that.
Supervisor Williams?
I think of all the requests today that is the most accomplishable.
And we should do it.
No other comments? Okay I guess we are
moving on to the next functional group overview policy and executive
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Thank you, Madam Chair. Our next and final functional group is the Policy and Executive Group. This group is composed of departments that are Board of Supervisors, the CEO's Office, and County Council. And you can see this is the smallest piece of the expenditure pie for the county. It makes up about 4% or $47.8 million. The vast majority of that is the County Executive Officer, which includes risk management, which is the bulk of that piece of the pie there. County Council at 1%, and the Board of Supervisors at less than 1%.
Not to say you're not worth anything, it's just a small percentage $3.1 million so again we don't have any planned presentations for your board this afternoon but certainly available for questions.
No lights here so public comment.
We have two requests to speak and we're going to hear from Ken Opplinger and then Andy Caldwell. Ken? Then we're going to hear from Andy Caldwell.
I'm chair members of the board Andy Caldwell. I thought during the preliminary budget hearings we had pointed out that the Board of Supervisors didn't seem to be sharing in the pain in terms of reducing The general fund contributions that go to the board and in fact, it looks like yours is increasing $73,000 on a whole between the five departments. And I thought your board had said that you agreed that you needed to lead by example.
And then I'll give you an example of something that wasn't explained on page D8 Budget book the board support is still at 1.25 employees but the amount is going up by you know like for instance it went up $31,000 You know it says it showed an increase of .25 at 31,000 and then it's supposed to go up again the following year. And again we think that the board should be leading by example.
We wish that you would take a look at Supervisor Adams there is a statement in here under his accomplishments And we wish the board would adopt this as a whole. Peter is committed to sustainably balancing the budget by increasing revenues the old fashioned way, by streamlining the permitting process bringing certainty both time and cost to applicants in encouraging and supporting all types of business and development. Then down below he also talks about There was another issue there about in the fifth district that lobbying Congress for infrastructure water supply and other issues with the federal nexus. And we think those really should be very high priorities of the board.
You know the bottom line you're a Europe primarily your overall budget you're an extension of the state and federal government And as you know, we've encouraged you to consider privatizing social services department because 95% of their funds are coming from the state and the feds. If most those people aren't getting paid very much money I honestly believe if you did an employee poll and you offer them more money right now plus kicked in part of their Social Security and may even throw in a 401k Versus being a county employee and living with the uncertainty of your ability to fulfill your pension promises. I think some of the people would go for it but I can't get the board. I've asked a couple months ago for you to do the math how much is social services pension obligations and pension losses hurting the county finances when in reality they're doing their work for the state and federal government.
Thank you.
So there are no more public comments and that. Are there any additional comments here? Okay that brings us to the budget summary and wrap up. And I'll just for everyone we're going to conclude this section and then on Wednesday will come back for our final deliberations.
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Thank you, Madam Chair. So as we focus on the challenges ahead, we've enumerated here several things that we're watching. One is the current forecast of fiscal year 18-19 shows potential budget gap in excess of $20 million. If you look at just total all over costs and where those are going with respect to all components of cost, the preliminary estimates developed by departments shows a widening gap The northern branch jail construction operating cost continues to be a concern and challenges move forward.
Mental health inpatient costs, replacement of outdated technology and equipment, maintenance unfunded capital needs, salary benefit increases, and certainly the federal and state budget uncertainty. Okay so based on information that we received from Mr. Holland this morning And compare and contrast with the information that we had on Friday. And in consultation with the auto controller, we think that in estimating available resources for your board's consideration allocation, that overall growth from 4.5 which was assumed AB growth in a recommended budget growing to 5.5 based on information we got this morning from the assessor Is the most prudent approach.
The one point two five which we left here in the column middle column was the information that we had based on Thursday and Friday's discussions where we thought the overall AB may grow by 5.75. What we heard this morning from the assessor is that the current role, although not closed, is hovering right at 5.65 and it still has many oil and gas producing properties to still appraise and finalize.
Those are the same types of properties that pretty much have driven this number from 5.75 down to what he presented today and so our concern in talking with the auditor is that we may continue to see a slight reduction below what today's value is. So based on that, you know, we would recommend that your board use a 5.5% growth in AV In order to calculate the available property tax revenues that your board has available to you.
So what does this do the numbers so this chart here shows what we had presented earlier prior to the assessor's presentation this morning showing a gross increase of 2.2 million in general fund revenue obviously offset by the the tax shift for the fire bring into 1.8 subtracting 18% maintenance brain to Total ongoing general fund revenues, property tax revenue growth of 1.5. So you can see on the far right column this is our revised recommendation based on today's information. It's about $1.78 million increase in grossed property taxes allowing for the 25% shift to the fire district of 315,000. The 18% maintenance funding policy of 260 bringing it to 2.2.
I don't feel wants to add to that.
Thank you. Chair Hartman members of the board in agreement with the proposal at 5.5 and based on the conversations with Mister Holland this morning where he had about a 130 of the oil and gas properties still to put on the role and again that's as Jeff said that's the reason that we went from the 5.8 on Thursday or Friday down to the 5, 6, 5, And so
Supervisor Wolf, did you not know this on Friday?
We did not. No we were made aware of this first thing this morning when we
arrived. And things could change by Wednesday?
Potentially.
Pardon me?
Potentially Supervisor Wolf or the Chair but based on the remaining parcels that he has yet to finalize it's more likely to go down than up
It's more likely to go down from
the 5.65 that he reported this morning it's more like
that's why you have a 5.5 correct. And if he has more I guess I'm not clear on that if he has more to analyze what why wouldn't it potentially go up
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you thank you.
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That's why we believe that the if there is an adjustment between now and
It's just really. You know it's hard for me to dispute this, but it seems very odd to get this at the you know the last minute I would have thought that when he was sitting here that he might have told us I don't recall him saying that.
Supervisor Adam.
I'm pretty sure he said that it was more likely to go down than up.
Chair Hartman and Supervisor Wolf, just for clarification we did meet with Joe on the telephone this morning and speaking with him together. And the three departments, the CEO our department and Joe Holland were comfortable and agreed on that 5.75 would be I'm sorry 5.5 would be the most prudent number to use for this next year.
You decide that
it was this morning when prior to his presentation. He had indicated that he was going to recommend that but he just didn't get to that this morning.
That's what I'm saying would have been really nice because yeah, well, whatever I'm just saying it would have been nice So you know it's just this kind of moving target that's a little aggravating. And of course these numbers are but I mean it's just like this was literally a few hours ago and now we have a new chart and you know we might have another chart on Wednesday. You don't have to say anything Mr. Holland, it's just really kind of unbelievable thank you
You're welcome. As long as he's here, did I recall correctly that you said it was more likely to go down than up?
We're still working on exemptions so we're applying some exemptions and then Mr. Flaherty is correct that some of the oil properties that we still need to put the assessment in are going to go down a little bit We're also doing some other new construction, so it's hard to tell what actually is going to happen. But it was at 5.8 on Thursday and it went down to 5.65 that kind of surprised us we had a staff in working over the weekend.
So it could likely go down a little bit and I think their estimate of 5.5 is a conservative. I would be very surprised if it went below that
OK.
I see no other lights up here. Supervisor Williams
Well, I just wanted to mention we just had a public comment slip on the last section and he just walked in the door.
Mr. Opplinger Yes if you'd I'll use the chair's discretion and allow you to come forward and address the board
Chair Hartman, members of the board. My apologies we were watching from my office and didn't run over here quite quick enough so. Ken Opplinger I'm here representing the economic vitality team of Santa Barbara County. We appreciate the support that you provided us as we built this organization over the last several years We've had some outstanding changes as we move forward with this in bringing on new partners to the organization, the work that we've done in ensuring that we're not only working on some great projects like the broadband initiative but also working with a number of local jurisdictions and folks within Commercial real estate industry to ensure that we're helping businesses expand here and new businesses come into the area. We'd like to continue that work, we continue to increase the portion of the budget that comes from the private sector.
We've got a new person on board Scott Erickson who has taken over for Zoe who retired a couple months ago. Scott's specialty is in working with private sector entities to help fund organizations like ours and he's already out especially working in the North County to find those I would appreciate you to continue to support us. We know that the countywide economic development efforts in both Ventura County and San Luis Obispo County have a significant amount of money that comes from the county to those efforts, your support will allow us to continue our work. Thank you.
Supervisor Williams.
And just for due diligence we did look into what the percentages Ventura and San Luis Obispo County provide and they are much higher percentages I maybe wanted to maybe hear from this was one of the casualties of our outside agency termination of funding and wanted to get some idea whether Staff believes, our CEO believes that there is a return on investment in terms of the revenue that can be produced by this since it has been one of the themes today.
Does this thing work in other communities and therefore should we support it?
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Supervisor Williams through the chair I think that effort is aimed at the right target. I just don't think the delivery of the effort has been as effective as all of us had wanted it to be. I think for a lot of reasons it hasn't followed, the whole effort hasn't been funded I think at the same level as efforts in Sloan Ventura County. So I'm supportive of us doing something for economic development and doing a cross-collaboration. I think we would need to work with either Mr. Opplinger or whoever it might be, or even if it's a staff driven process, to figure out what's the best way to be more effective given the dollars that we have to spend.
Would any other board members yes Supervisor.
I would just like to say that I think what we should do is look in the mirror you can't just give some money to somebody and make business happen here. You know we we stop it every single day a little bit at a time in this county and it's just a fact so you know as soon as we stop Shooting ourselves in the foot. We'll have more business in this county it will be a better environment for for business and it will come because who wouldn't want to be here right? I mean this place is just it's I mean we've got all these refugees from Kern coming over here and they seem to really enjoy it.
And they haven't even been through well one of them hasn't been through summer yet so you know he's really going to enjoy next October So you know I think we just got to get out of the way. And it's it's the county if we if we give you one hundred fifty thousand bucks you're going to have one hundred fifty thousand bucks but it isn't gonna help unless we fundamentally change what we do
Supervisor Williams.
What you're saying is not factually incorrect, if we got rid of all our rules I'm sure we would get more business but a lot of Santa Barbarans would question whether that's worth it so I think we have to act strategically to decide what is the best way to proceed and we have to be I think we need to be. Thoughtful about that and I totally take your point there's places that that we unnecessarily make things harder.
We're going to have to be a little bit more. Strategic about which ones of those things that we do and don't I think it's fine if the CEO were to Work with the chamber to figure out how this is going to work and what we can afford. That would definitely satisfy me but I do think we should at least reflect on this because it is along your theme of revenue and you know get more business here takes an effort sometimes
supervisor Adam
But we're going to find out over the next several years, you know what's worth it and what we have to give up to maintain this business environment. So it'll be fun to go through the exercise.
I did have a couple of things I wanted to say on this topic of economic development. The county has been working on an inward looking strategic plan, how we can do our work more efficiently and across silos What are the services that we need to provide at what level? And I think that's very effective. We need also, however when that's finished, to focus externally. Clearly we need an economic development strategy and economic vitality strategy. I was very impressed when Sheriff Brown raised the issue of public banks. That caught my eye too and I know they're working on that in Sacramento. But there are a broad array of things we can do, but in the county in particular unincorporated lands it's tourism and agriculture. Those aren't the jobs that create high paying jobs and it doesn't bring huge tax revenues to the county.
So we have to think in particular about the unincorporated lands and what is appropriate there. And so I'm not sure if we need money or exactly how we launch that, or when we intend to be complete with the inward looking strategic plan. What I'm envisioning is something much broader than what the chambers do. Chambers tend to be focused on cities, urban areas and businesses in downtown commercial areas. I think we need to look more broadly at industrial sectors What we have what we could complement.
What we have with and I think they've used very different approaches in Sonoma in Ventura in San Luis Obispo counties and I think they give us some models about Supervisor Levenino. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Obviously this is something that I normally would support and you know, I've gone to a lot of the meetings. You know even in Santa Maria there's a group we all get together and we talk about what's wrong? Why can't we get more business here? And basically it's delay and uncertainty and they call it DURT. Delay, D-U-R-T. Delay, Uncertainty, Regulation and Taxation.
We got everybody in these rooms and we're all talking Everybody go put up on the board what you know you think you should do and everything at the end of the day it does come back here. It's like it's if you don't have the I guess if you don't have the political atmosphere And I think that's a really good point. I mean, if we're going to be spending more money than the rest of it really.
You know has a future here. If we took that $100,000 and went out and said hey we're going to go recruit a you know a 5 star hotel and we're going to work with them as the staff and find out where it might be able to be cited You know, provide something that's going to create a bunch of property tax and TOT. And that would be something I'd be interested in. But just another $75,000 or $100,000 to have a team that you might bring us a great idea and the odds of us moving forward on it are pretty remote.
So, you know, I think it's one of those other things that has to be sacrificed when things are in the situation they're in right now. I would always hope that our staff and I know they do have utmost. You know we're trying to look at this point of what can be done now. I know that probably over the last since I've been here there's probably been 10 items that have come up of how do we increase revenue and it was like you know oil taxes which I wasn't so fond of but most of them I supported, you know, it's like extra stuff that you know we didn't do that or parking fees there was a reason why At the end of the day it's kind of up to us and like I said it's easy and it's nice for me to be able to say oh I supported economic development because I gave $75,000.00 to this group but I'm not really sure at the end of the day it really gets done what I want to get done with it so.
If I may ask what do you want to get done?
Oh I would love to have let's come up with a strategy of how to What makes this money? I think that's the first thing we need to look at is okay, let's look at it from the back end. What creates the most revenue that we all could live with and maybe if you look at the Miramar, that's going to be property tax, TOT tax and huge sales tax. That's a win-win-win. Uh oh! It's from this chair. He was salute. He's channeling himself. All right.
It was a win win. Oh man. I probably have to pay him a royalty on that. But I mean, that's the sort of thing of why aren't we looking as a body of hey where is the next place we all could agree that maybe we could cite something like that and work with a developer that would say okay obviously there are more people who would love to come here. It makes us a lot of money.
Why wouldn't we want to build another one? But it has to be in the right place, but I know of no place that we have inside the county where if somebody came to us and said, Hey, I'd really like to do something here. Here's the spot you know that we've all already decided maybe this is a good place. So just things like that, that we all could agree on something.
Supervisor Williams
I want to return to a point that was made by Andy Caldwell, which is that we need to also think about I want to start by saying that we have higher wage economies and while I agree that in that case that was a win-win-win, you know there is a danger in over reliance. Our two principal industries in this county are both low wage lower wage economies And we have one of the lower median incomes of any suburban county in the state. That is a really tough economic quagmire to be in and so I would argue that we should be cautious about I want to start by. Expanding areas that create an induced housing demand that we cannot make because that That is why to me, I know this is a much of a longer term. It will take a lot longer to pay off but that's why we have to address that in some form and the most substantive way in my view to address that is in housing that is affordable for middle income families and housing closer to the jobs You know we've got to take some of it ourselves.
We shouldn't be forcing all of the induced housing demand up all on you guys in the North with you know, we've got to take some of it ourselves and so been informed just by asking employers over my entire time in office what's the biggest problem that you deal with. And 95 percent of the time housing is at the top of the list when I ask that question and so that's I feel like that's something we really need to address in the long run.
Supervisor Adam.
Well I just want to say that you know we talk as if we have some kind of a lever on the economy here that I don't really think that we have. You know you have to look at what comes in the door I mean it's fun when Mr. Opplinger goes out there and courts Brand X to come here and operate but you know they may be a tire manufacturer or they maybe I mean we've even had a little bit of trouble getting permits from APCD for wineries because fermentation creates CO2 so we're measuring how many metric tons of CO2 comes off of how many gallons of grape juice.
And so you know these are the things that those are the things that are here and that's who wants to come here because we have, you know, the low-wage economy in agriculture. And people got to eat and you can raise this stuff here and that is why all of that is You know you can't necessarily determine what's going to come in the door. You know I think we have to just be more open to opportunities and not try to micromanage who comes in because he can't make people come here if they don't want to.
And you know we've made some very difficult Situations here very public and there's a lot of people who know about that. And they won't come here because they know it's too hard to go somewhere else because they know it's easier. And so you know this is going to be a long term problem that has got to be overcome by changing policies. And if we continue to do the same thing then we're gonna get the same result
Thank you. I would just like to add that it is the private sector that has to lead, the private sector creates jobs but if we want good jobs we have to really have a collaborative effort to try to think out in the future what is really needed. I was surprised to see that auto mechanics nowadays make $100,000. I had somebody working with heavy equipment and they are recruiting nationally because they can't find a heavy equipment driver here. So there is a mismatch and I think we can, I've been speaking with the presidents of the community colleges, they're trying to talk to leaders of businesses here to figure out what kind of educational programs should we be offering for good jobs in the future? So I think this is a discussion that needs to happen and we need to support it.
Again the private sector really needs to be the lead but I think the county can play a role as an umbrella, a convener to get the discussion going. Supervisor Adam?
I'm just going to talk about that gas tax a little bit. You know if you have a utility bed on your truck, you're probably thinking about loading that up and go into Texas or Oklahoma or something. They're using electricians, they're using plumbers, they're using welders, they're using all these people that make things happen. And the cost of living is so much cheaper.
The availability of work is, you know those economies are going because they let them do anything they want and that's why we're having a hard time getting people that know how to do those things And the people that we do have, it's interesting at my cooler. We have really large power at the cooler and we have a 2000 kVA transformer that the power comes into and you don't just call any electrician for that.
All of the guys that work at that cooler as electricians are over, I want to say 60. There's one guy that's 80 that keeps going out there so you know there's nobody coming in on the backside. So it's not necessarily education. It's not like nobody taught anybody how to be an electrician they're just choosing to go somewhere else because they can live better
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Well, I still think a lot of people want to live here and we'll have to figure out this in the future. But I think what you see is that there is an interest in tackling the issue of how we generate more revenues for the county and not just cutting programs. And so I hope will continue this discussion in the future Is there anything else anybody would like to say? Last comments before we go think about what we're
going
to do on Wednesday.
So Chair Hartman, there was another slide that Mr. Frapple didn't get to and so this is just if we use the 5.5 property tax growth this is how it translates into that chart we showed earlier related to my additional recommendations. So Mr. Frapple you might want to highlight what the changes are
Certainly, Madam Chair and members of the board. So this is a chart again as Mona mentioned we've modified to reflect the 5.5% growth in total assessed valuation and the resulting proper tax growth. And so what you'll see here at the 5.55% level you'll see additional proper tax revenues coming from the general fund of $1,462,000 The 18% according to policy then is 260 from that number.
And then the recommendations that we had made before and were contained in the earlier slides of reclassifying the CalFresh contribution from a one-time Expense to an ongoing expense. I think that's Here as well, and it is consistent with our prior prior slides So the primary difference the only difference really in this slide versus the one we've talked about The past is the amount of ongoing property taxes coming to the general fund And so as you can see there what has happened Is in the prior slide? We had shown a positive if you look down at the very bottom of the ongoing column of The prior slide showed a positive $2.99 being available from ongoing sources and now this side would reflect negative $5,500 essentially.
In the prior slide on the one-time column, we'd shown available $514,000 and that drops to 454,000. And then going to the total as a total was two, the slide we showed earlier this morning reflected a number of 813,521 and that number now is 448,521. So as your board is considering deliberation on where you would like to see additional resources be allocated, this will serve as a framework for that discussion.
Supervisor Lavanino.
Thank you Madam Chair I'm just wondering if the CEO at this point wants to make any changes before I spend tomorrow Talking about restorations or anything if there's anything that you heard today that would change your mind about any of the restorations that you would recommend.
Supervisor Lavinia through the chair not currently I don't think I think we were we try to be as thoughtful as possible in the recommended budget and in these and given the totality of information I've heard today I would still go forward with what I have presented
And just to be clear that the tax roll is closed on Wednesday? I guess what I'm getting at is are we going, to Supervisor Wolf's point will we be getting additional numbers change numbers. We've made a more conservative assumption here but once we go in and figure this out should we how do we reconcile if we get new information on Wednesday?
Well the staff in the assessor's office is working feverishly right now. They're going to be working all day tomorrow we'll get an update to the CEO first thing Wednesday morning but we will be working throughout the day on Wednesday as well. We push that out just as far as we can so that we can get all of the work done. We try not to leave anything on the table.
I hope that helps.
It does indeed Mr. Holm thank you. So we have a bit of a moving target and we'll have to live with that. And any last comments CEO Miyasato? All right. We will continue this item on Wednesday 9 o'clock here in this room. you Yeah.