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We watched the clock. Ready to go? Good morning and welcome to our June, July already? No. June 20th. It's been a long month. June 20th, 2017 meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors here in Santa Barbara County. Mr. Allen would you call the roll?
Ms. Wolfe? Aye. Mr Adams?
I am here.
Mr Lavinino? Here. Mr Williams? Here.
we need to approve the minutes of June 6, 2017. May I have a motion to approve?
So
moved. And roll call vote.
Ms. Wolfe? Aye. Mr. Adams?
Aye.
Mr Lavendino? Aye! Ms. Williams?
Aye
Ms. Hartman? Aye 5-0
And do we have a CEO's report today Ms. Miyasato?
Chair Hartman and Supervisors, I do just a couple of quick announcements. And one is just to congratulate our probation department with the support of Congressman Carbajal's office. They recently learned they were awarded a three-year grant totaling $975,000. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Also tomorrow afternoon, Caltrans will be officially dedicating 21 miles of US Highway 101 in the Gaviota area as the state scenic highway.
A ceremony being held at the Arroyo Honda Vista Point and the designation started with the Board of Supervisors supporting the nomination. They've supported the nomination since 2016 and it's been the intent of the board since our coastal land use plan was adopted in 1982 so that's finally underway.
Thank you very much. We don't have any honorary resolutions to present today so we turn directly to the largest administrative agenda in board history I think. I needed help carrying my notebooks up this morning. So do we have any items that the Board would like to pull? Supervisor Williams.
Agenda Discussionitems moved / continued / pulled, click to expand
Madam Chair I just want to pull item 5 at least the cost Pacifica portion because it covers a contract in the last year's contract so it is not this next year's contract and during a tidbit of that contract my wife worked for the organization. So I would like to leave the room and recuse myself from that.
Okay Supervisor Wolf. Thank you Madam Chair I would like to pull item A8, A32 and A45. Okay Supervisor Lavinino.
21. And
Supervisor Adam.
A21 and A22 please.
Okay and I would like to pull A77 and A79. So, yes Mr. Allen?
And we have requests from the public on item A-77 as well. Okay
so let's turn first to A-5 and that's the one where Supervisor Williams has to recuse himself for part of it.
Item A- 5 from behavioral wellness is to consider recommendations regarding the mental health agreements amendments for fiscal year 2016-17
Mr. Gazzone.
Chair Hartman, I understand the board's intention is to hear just the Casa Pacifica portion of A5 and then allow Supervisor Williams to return for the remainder of A 5?
Okay so will we have any report from the department or just vote?
Just an administrative item so it would be a vote separate from the rest of A five was my recommendation.
Madam Chair I'll go ahead and move item A1 which is the Casa Pacifica contract. Thank you may I have
a second?
Second but it's, I think it's A5I.
You said A1 I just didn't want to confuse anybody. Oh gosh that sounds like, we're not back to this one again. It's A 5A 1.
And did you second. So we have a motion and a second and roll call vote.
Miss Wolfe.
Aye.
Mr. Adam.
Aye.
Mr. Lavagnino. Aye Mr. Williams has recused himself, and Ms. Hartman. Aye Passes 4 to 1. So Supervisor
Williams? So the rest of it we can approve as part of our administrative agenda.
Madam Chair, I'll move the balance of item A5.
Okay.
Second.
All right and roll call vote.
Ms. Wolfe? Aye. Mr. Adam?
Aye!
Mr. Labadino? Aye Mr. Williams? Aye Ms. Hartman? Aye Passes 5-0 Turning to A8 Chair Hartman, members of the board. Item 8 is from behavioral wellness also to consider recommendations regarding the Mental Health Services Act three-year plan for fiscal years 2017 through 2020.
Supervisor Wolf? Thank you Madam Chair I wanted to thank our department for moving this forward mental health services act the three year plan I had some e-mail conversations back and forth with Ms. Gleghorn about the program, there's so much meat that is involved in this plan my hope would be is that this comes back as a D agenda item so that the board has A little bit more conversation about some of the services that are provided particularly the long list of services provided to children in our community. So I think it's worthwhile to have a substantive discussion on that.
And then finally I did though express some concern with the rise program. Not, I should restate that not with the rise program because I think it's an excellent program but what is concerning to me is one of the statements that There is a likelihood that we will need additional staffing for that population and yet a lot of money is going into other places that don't seem as perhaps worthwhile. Maybe there should be a redirection of funds or at least I would like to have that conversation So Ms. Glacorn, if we can do that through the chair, have this come back to us at an appropriate time so we have an opportunity to know exactly what's in this program. It's millions of dollars that is being afforded to the county, so I think it would be a worthwhile discussion.
So Supervisor Wolf if I understand you would like to continue this item.
No, I think we should. I think we should approve it today and will go ahead and approve it as part of the entire consent. It's just I just wanted to raise those issues and ask that it come back at another time.
And would you care to comment? Yes,
Supervisor Wolfe through the chair. Yeah, we're happy to come back. It is a very deep and extensive document. We have pursued the state required Posting for 30 days of
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public comment. We've incorporated and done a lot of community planning, but we can bring back the results of that to go through the different types of projects. The project that you're focusing on is part of the innovations funding which are intended to be short term pilot projects if you will looking at a new practice to see if those are Things that are effective and helpful. And if so, to determine if we can incorporate those into our ongoing functioning with the department. This project has this last year of funding and then all of the innovations money cannot be spent for that any further. So I think as we're looking at the models for We have to determine what is sustainable within that project and how we will do that within the context of our regular funding.
So happy to come back and have a longer discussion about that project in particular, and the plan overall if you would like.
Yes I think it would be helpful.
And I want to express my appreciation again to Supervisor Williams for being part of the Behavioral Wellness Commission which hears all of this planning on a regular basis. Right thank you
Okay well we'll just come back to that as part of the whole. Yes I'm happy yeah we can
just approve it as part of the whole.
That brings us to A21.
Chair Hartman, members of the board item A21 from the county executive office this is to consider recommendations regarding proposed advocacy position of support for AB 1472 state lands commission oil gas mineral leases.
Okay and Supervisor Lavanino wanted to, Supervisor Adam first sorry and then Supervisor Lavanino.
I'm sorry 21?
Yes.
I just need a roll call on that one.
Okay so you would just like a roll call vote and that's what Supervisor Lavanino would like. So could I have a motion?
Move approval.
Second. And Mr. Allen, would you call the vote?
Ms. Wolfe?
Aye.
Mr. Adams?
No.
Mr Lavanino? No Mr Williams? Aye Ms. Hartman? Aye Passes 3 to 2. Chair Harbin, members of the board item A22 from the CEO is approved budget revision request.
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Supervisor Adam?
Yeah you know this I'm looking at 5063 it's page 12 of 25 I'm going to assume we're getting there, if we're not already there. And I'm just going to read a couple sentences out of this justification paragraph. The purchase of Agnes Street property was initially slated to be funded by the Crisis Stabilization Unit grant but due to the fact that analysis on the CSU South Open January of 16 revealed that a CSU at this Santa Maria location was not feasible. The CSU grant slated to cover purchase price of Agnes Street property was relinquished and returned to the state.
Behavioral wellness staff determined that this location is favorable for a crisis residential treatment program and therefore it would be prudent, my emphasis to fund the purchase of the facility with this one time general fund contribution etc. Rather than requesting the site to be sold. And with all due respect to our fine folks at Behavioral Wellness, that's something for the Board of Supervisors to determine whether it's prudent to have general fund monies going towards that.
And especially when it was sort of the bait and switch. It was supposed to be a CSU, and now it's gonna be something else. So my question I guess is do we have enough extra general fund to be purchasing property? And maybe that's to Mona.
Yes, CEO
Miyasato. Hi Supervisor Adam through the chair and Dr. Gluckner is here ready to speak on the project but it raised my antenna too when I saw the general fund issue and I was reminded that the general fund that's being used for this project was money that in board hearings last year The board granted $243,000 of general fund for a mental health mental health capital needs. And so that was done I think Supervisor Wolf actually made the request and the board voted for it.
So there was general fund set aside for the department to use for capital needs. And so that's what this general fund money is being used for. And I'll let Dr. Gledcorn speak to the project.
Well you know I don't even want to hear about the project frankly. It's just the idea that we're kind of getting bait and switched here it's not, you know I'm not going to argue with the beneficial nature maybe of the project at the moment because You know that's not really up for debate here. The question is do we want to take roughly half of what we stole from contingency last week and stick it in a piece of property?
And I guess my answer would be no, and I don't know how to pull this particular budget revision request procedurally out of all the rest of them and vote no on it.
So supervisor Adam to the chair just to clarify. The general fund contribution that was made and I understand your concern, the general fund that's being used by This is a budget revision request. And I don't want to discount It's just showing that monies that were spent out of one of the behavioral wellness is funds fund 43 should have been. Fund 48 should have been spent out of fund 44 so this is just a technical adjustment no new appropriation is being made.
The department can certainly come back and talk more about the use of funds for the project if that would help If you recall, on June 6th I believe the department did come with a regular board item for the consent agenda that talked about the project. But there were two actions that the department requested. One was receiving a file about the project and the second was making an appropriation of $1.1 million of grant funds they received to do the rehabilitation of this Agnes Street property.
And as you recall the item was withdrawn by the department and the reason it was withdrawn. Was because that same appropriation is being made in the recommended budget and so we didn't want to have the board double appropriate funds so that's why they withdrew that that board letter. But we can certainly come back and talk more about this project. I don't know if this particular accounting issue has to be resolved today, again this is just an accounting issue but if the larger issue is use of the property the department could certainly come back and talk about that.
And Supervisor Wolf had something to say. Supervisor Adam first though did you have any response to what CEO Miyasato had to
Well thank you for asking and I think, I have no doubt that this item would be approved or would be approved and it probably will be approved over my objection anyway. But I have no doubt that this item would be approved Had Behavioral Wellness come to us and asked us if it would be prudent to fund the purchase of a facility, yada yada. Rather than sticking it in a budget revision request. I don't like the style here and I'm sure it's probably legal.
But I don't think it's advisable because I think the department should bring the board with it or at least get direction from the board on purchases of property, particularly and maybe any other expenditure general fund before you do it. And I think the fact that we gave them money last year and they didn't spend it begs a question of don't we recapture that at some point?
And again for CEO Misato.
Mr. Gazzone had something to add.
Chair and supervisors my understanding of this item is that the authority to purchase has already provided on this item and this is actually an accounting and funding item for the board not a purchase decision which has already occurred from the board.
So may I, Supervisor Wolf?
Yeah well Ms. Glaghorn is here so if she wants to make a comment then I can say something after.
Certainly thank you. So this item has come before the board a number of times but it's come in different ways because of the way the state gave permission or denied permission for the use of funds so the original purchase of that particular building and the project itself came through as grant funding Several years ago, we went ahead and purchased the building with the idea that we were going to open a crisis stabilization unit there.
Upon purchasing that and looking further into what we were going to be able to develop on that site And the funds that would be needed to support that project on an ongoing basis, it was determined that it wasn't sustainable to open a CSU there. We requested to the state that we use the funds instead to do crisis services still but more residential services and the state at that point denied the request and rescinded the grant funding that we had received which meant we no longer could use that money to fund that purchase.
In a separate project which also came before the board, we applied for a separate fund of $1.1 million to build a crisis residential. Those funds were approved by the state and came before the board as an accept and expend and we sought to build that facility Eventually we determined that the area that we wanted to build that in, we couldn't find any appropriate properties. We worked closely with general services and the time to allocate that money to a specific project was running out so we requested to the state if we could move the project into the facility that we had already acquired and they gave permission for that. At that point we realized that since we were producing a residential property That we had funds allocated from the board last year, actually still this fiscal year for the next couple of weeks.
For that purpose that we'd been instructed to seek things that might have to go in a quicker sequence by the board during budget hearings. So we lined the dots up. I don't feel that this, as you say Supervisor Adams is a bait and switch as much as a sequential change in plans with interventions from the state. At this point we're lining these funds up and are requesting to shift them from one fund to another so we can pursue the finalization of the project but we're happy to come back and go through exactly what happened when. I think we have had consent from the board For purchase, for accept of state funds and utilization for these purposes.
But if we want to go through the exact sequence of events, we can come back in more detail at another time if you would prefer.
Supervisor Adam does that satisfy you?
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Well my objection is procedural. I don't think it should be handled like this through a budget revision request. So that's my problem here, is I think you should have an A agenda item at the very least, maybe a D and I do think that this was purchased for a purpose and I don't believe that the board, and maybe I'm mistaken but I don' believe that the board approved a change of purpose And maybe I'm unclear, it's the fact that it says General Fund Contribution on it. That confuses me because if this is somebody else's money that we're applying to a purpose, I don't understand how it got to be a general fund contribution. So on that basis, I'm just going to object today and you guys can probably approve it and we'll be on down the road.
Supervisor Wolk? Thank you Madam Chair and thank you Dr. Gladcorn and Ms. Miyasato I just want to say that when that money was allocated last year in budget it was specifically for capital so in my mind the way I look at this is that this is an amazing opportunity for us to do what we have been talking about for so long And that is to provide residential behavioral wellness services. Residential, we have it in the South County and it's proved to be a great step down and sometimes not even a step up because of the treatment that's been provided. So I think to have another facility like this in Santa Maria will be great.
As Mr. Gazzone said I think a technical accounting move of money but it was definitely something that I've been aware of and very supportive of so if we need to just take this one item separately because it sounds like Mr. Adam may want to vote no on it, I would say that I will move budget revision 0005063 on page 12 of 25.
And may I have a second and then Supervisor Lavanino? I'll
second and then I had a question too is that, and I'm totally supportive of the plan and Dr. Glakehorn has been communicating with me and I appreciate being up to speed on this. The question though that Supervisor Adams raises is a good one in that why is it labeled, the only concern I have is that it's labeled as general fund when really we took it out of the general fund last year I thought and moved the 243 over to mental health capital.
Or should have been it seems in a different account.
We have a motion and a
second.
We have a motion and a second. Motion carries. Mister Lavendino. Mister Williams. Miss Hartman I asked for one
that takes us then to a 32 would you read it out into the record?
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Chairman members of the board. I mean, 32 some planning and development consider recommendation during cannabis land use ordinance project amendment for services with Amy Foster Wheeler environmental
Full well that our ad hoc committee has been working on this process. But you know when I saw this on the agenda it was, it took me aback I would say because we're moving forward with an environmental review contract that It seems a bit out of sequence to me. You know, when I look back at some of our other ordinances and then subsequent EIRs it seems like it follows that pattern that we have public input. We have staff direct and look at an ordinance and then it may go to the planning commission to the board and to the public and then we have an EIR process. This seems like it's backwards, you know I think just reading from the AMEC proposal there are certain things in here that are concerning to me and things that they're going to be looking at my point is It's very, it's an unusual approach for an environmental document to study something when there is no project.
And you know what AMIC says is that they are going to be looking at some of the cultivators that are in the registry Maybe that was the point of the registry, is to have something to study from. But those registries, again I don't even know what the purpose of them really is other than just say that they're cultivating. But that may not be all of the cultivators.
So I have real concerns with this process, and it was something that I brought up before that I wanted a report back to the board. And I know it's coming back in July but this is already going to happen before we even have the report back from the ad hoc committee. There's also some information about taxation. Again, it seems like that should come to the board for discussion.
So this just seems like we're putting the cart before the horse and I am at a loss as to why were doing it this way. This seems something that I've never seen before. So unless someone can tell me why and convince me, I'm going to have to vote against moving forward with this contract. Thank you Madam Chair.
Madam Chair, Supervisor Wolf. Yeah this is an unconventional project in the sense that we have a couple things going on first off we have a very accelerated timeline as some of you are probably already aware the state is in the process of drafting a number of state regulations that will go into effect the first of next year so our goal is to try to get our regulations in effect as close to the time at which they're gonna roll out their regulations to the degree possible There's another thing that's interesting about this project, and that is because the state regulations are still in their draft form and they're still in flux. We don't really have a good regulatory system in place currently by the state such that we can just kind of pluck that from the state put it in an ordinance to flesh out the project description more fully.
So what we have to do is a number of tasks concurrently with one another once again to meet the timing and knowing that things are in flux so on the project description admittedly is not as We have a lot of information that we can share with you. It's not as detailed as we typically would like it to be at this point, however, Supervisor Wolf a follow-up.
Or
did you have a follow-up question? Yeah, I guess a comment and that this is an unconventional project in that we have some really tight timelines. And I understand that and appreciate you bringing it up but I recall when this, I think it was the city of Santa Barbara was moving through their process to get some of their documents in line and they were going to move forward with a tax proposal. I had contacted staff and saying, why aren't we moving forward and doing some of these things? Which we didn't do. So here we are, apparently this is very time sensitive. But just for me as far as process goes, and I'm looking at you but I know this is not your deal. Well it is your deal but there's a lot of people who are involved in this. But I just feel very uncomfortable moving forward especially in a CEQA document doing something that is really in effect being rushed and I don't know what the implications, I worry about the implications of that.
And that's really the reason why I can't support moving forward on this right now. Thank you Madam Chair.
Madam Chair?
Yes, Supervisor Adam and then Supervisor Lavanino.
Yeah, I was just going to say if this were a private project This approach wouldn't work because don't you have to have a project description?
Mr. Cassoni
Chairman and supervisors. I think the plan from planning on this is to allow the vendor If this is approved to begin the background work and then to provide that stable project description Slightly downstream, and that's the way the project proposal or project understanding is stated So that supervisor Adam is correct that you need a stable project description before completing the environmental document and circulating it But approving this today would be a policy choice to allow the background work to begin
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We're one of the few counties that's even doing an EIR and we might be the only one. Most people are just moving forward without any environmental review whatsoever, so although we are in a crunched time frame I think others have taken the route Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the public. We aren't actually going also in the fact that we aren't actually going to go to what we had originally thought and I guess we'll talk about more of this on July 11th but you know, we're not going to the ballot in November. We're not gonna go until June so it does give us a little bit more time frame but I'll move 832.
Mr. Bosanich did you have anything you wanted to add?
Chair Hartman, members of the board I would just affirm what Supervisor Lavagnino just shared in terms of the practice in many other municipalities around the state of California and local governments have been taking a variety of approaches to their environmental review processes including the use of mitigated negative declarations and out-and-out exemptions from environmental review.
That just this past week, the state of California released its draft EIR on cannabis licensing activities across the state. Obviously it's an important document that's under review by our planning and development staff as well as our usual department review process. And those comments will be coming back within the 45 day time limit as allowed on that draft EIR.
While it's not a local document, I think it does show the importance and the alignment of our strategy to use the environmental review process as a critical component in forming the impacts of any cannabis regulations done in Santa Barbara County.
Supervisor Williams and then Supervisor Wolff.
So the disadvantage of doing an EIR at all and the reason why all these counties are moving forward is because they're experiencing some of the same challenges we are, which is that it is unclear who to enforce against and who not to. And the purpose of an ordinance as it was articulated and as we voted on was I want to start by saying thank you for the opportunity to be here.
Also able to extract revenue from the ones who are. And both of those are really important and the reason why this process is being done the way it is, is to make sure that this process goes as fast as possible Given our recognized need to protect ourselves legally by doing an EIR. And you know I can tell you the people of Carpinteria don't want to wait for things to change they they want it to happen as soon as possible and and I think that's where some of the biggest I think conflicts are happening between neighbors and marijuana. And they want there to be rules, and they want us to be able to require odor control devices. We can't do that until we have a permitting structure done. So this is meaning that we can move with alacrity, and it's important that we do so.
Supervisor Wolf? Thank you Madam Chair and I understand the community concerns. I would imagine that even doing a negative deck, that is part of the CEQA review process is it not Mr. Dennis?
Chair Hartman, Supervisor Wolf I would defer to my planning or my legal counsel in terms of. I believe that's true but I am certainly not
a CEQA expert. And it is probably based on some type of ordinance that is already in place. My point is this feels backwards. And I understand again neighborhood concerns because certainly they've been expressed in my district as well. I just want to make sure that this process is done correctly and That's basically my bottom line and I'm concerned that we're in. We're moving in such lightning speed that we're not we're not following the proper process but that's my opinion. But it seems like from staff at this I think the words were that this is unconventional which I would definitely agree with.
I had a question for someone and that is do we have any sense of when we would have a project description.
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Yes Madam Chair, our anticipation is roughly within the month of July we'll have a much more solidified project description. Once again we need to let the state get far enough along such that we feel confident that there aren't going to be any dramatic changes in what they're proposing that would have an effect on whatever we're evaluating at that point in time but we're looking at sometime in July
Good so it's not that far down and from my perspective there is a great deal of background work no matter what the ultimate project description turns out to be. So I would be in favor. So can we have a motion?
I'll move a 32
roll call vote Ms. Wolfe No Mr. Adam
No
Mr Lavinino Mr. Williams Ms. Harp Aye Passes 3-2
Did we have a public request to pull item 41?
I had requests from the public on A-77.
Roll-call vote 0–0 move a 32 roll call · 2 under review
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members of the board, Item A- 45 is from Public Works this regarding the Tahecus Landfill Reconfiguration Barone Ranch Restoration Project
Thank you. Yeah thank you Madam Chair I just get my notes together the reason I pulled this is that I just wanted to hear confirmation from staff that this doesn't conflict with the earlier item. I think it was a 44 on Tahequis so I have a feeling that we're OK. We just like verbal confirmation.
Chair Hartman, Supervisor Wolf. These are two completely separate items the Barone Restoration Project had to do with the impacts that were created during the Tahecus landfill expansion of 2002 and so these are these are requirements of that project.
Thank You Mr.
Slate thank you madam chair okay turning to a 77
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Chair Harvey members of word item a 77 from planning and development this is the Senate hearing for July 11th 2017 to consider the appeal filed by the Rancho La Laguna LLC and La Laguna ranch company with Planning Commission's May 31 2017 denial of the Rancho la Laguna track map in state small water system project.
And we had a public speaker on this one, right?
Ms. Petrovich? Yes. We have Susan Petrovic
Thank you Madam Chair, members of the board. My name is Susan Petrovich with the law firm of Brownstein High at Farber-Schreck and I'm here representing the applicants for this project. You probably have my letter June 16th. One of the applicants cannot attend the hearing on July 11 so we oppose that date and object to it. There is a due process issue here I think. This has been in the process for over 10 years, so another month doesn't seem like an unreasonable request. Both of the applicants obviously want to be present. This is also a North County item but not a single hearing so far has been in North County and they would like to have it in Santa Maria. It's much easier for both of them to get to Santa Maria.
And then finally As I mentioned, there was an offer of a waiver. Of course that's solely for this continuance but more particularly the government code section. This is where we're baffled as to why we are even here. The government code section says the time limit specified in the chapter apply to all We're going to open the hearing and close it again you still have to be prepared for eventualities.
So we request the August 29 date. Thank you.
And chairman and supervisors the subdivision map act states some crisp deadlines in the remedy that he proposed map is deemed approved if the county does not meet those deadlines. The map back section that allows an extension by mutual consent for reporting and acting on maps does not expressly address hearing appeals so we disagree with the appellant's position that the law is clear about the county being protected from an extension So the recommended action is to set hearing on July 11th. That's in the board agenda letter on July 11th as Miss Petrovich noted the board could certainly then continue the hearing to August 29th as the appellants have requested and the board could even for peace of mind inform the appellants today that that is your intent but the recommended action is to set it for July 11th
And that would very much be my intent is to give you some security that we need to protect the county's interests and operate within the time frame. It is too big a risk not to do that so we have to have the hearing on July 11 that were setting today but I would commit from my perspective that we would then continue the item until August 29 as you requested.
Supervisor Williams?
That would be my commitment as well. I felt like granting some time would be reasonable and this is the way to do it while still protecting the county legally.
Supervisor Lavinia?
Thank you Madam Chair and the August 29th meeting is in Santa Maria I believe so. I would commit to that as well but not going to push on September, I mean July 11th.
Supervisor Williams while Mr. Gazzone is thinking of the answer to my question.
The vote would be to set the hearing for July 11th right?
And also agreeing I don't know if we can do that agree then to continue it. Chair
Chairman the motion could certainly be to move staff's recommend recommended action with the addition that the board plans with the consent of the applicant. Excuse me, of the appellant again on July 11th to continue it to August 29th they will provide peace of mind for the appellant.
So moved.
Roll call vote. I just have a question.
Supervisor Wolf. Ms. Petrovich represents the appellate so if we have a letter that is saying that they want it for August 29 isn't this just being redundant why don't we just allow it right now?
Chair and Supervisor Wolf I would say that's where the disagreement with the appellant is and that is that the statute addressing extensions of their map act does not expressly address appeals. That's why we feel that the recommendation should be to set the hearing for July 11th and at that time with appellants consent to continue the item to August 29th. So they
have to write another letter?
They can appear at the hearing and just state it or write a letter.
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We're ready for the vote
Ms. Wolfe And then turning to item a
79
I just wanted miss Pell to Chair Hartman, members of the board. Item A79 is general services. This is regarding the Northern Branch Jail Project report on construction phase. It's in the third district.
Thank you and I got your communication and I just wanted to get that public and on the record. Okay thank you.
Chair Hartman members of the board there was a newspaper article and I believe the San Maria Times that indicated that I was asking for 8000 additional dollars for this project that is not correct. It's actually housekeeping item we already have the money in the budget it's just I have to have certain limitations on change orders and so again the monies in the budget
Okay that's all we needed. We do have a late request to speak or pull item A-55 Mr. Allen would you read that into the record?
Chair Harmon, members of the board, Item A- 55 is from the Sheriff it's regarding $100,000 cash donation to the sheriff's office. We have Jerry Crowe to speak to them.
Good morning Madam Chairman, Members of the Board Supervisor Adam. I come today, Jerry Crow on behalf of Santa Barbara Taxpayer Advocates on this item for the $100,000 donation from OW Management in Montecito for the Sheriff's Office earmarked for the Coastal Patrol Bureau because it's over 10,000 you have to obey it or you have to approve it and the obvious purpose is to give you an opportunity to articulate whatever policies that you have as I understand the district or the county's policy is at D41 and prohibits any kind of control, any kind of policy input, any kind of quid pro quo.
And in this case it looks like there's $100,000 of cash that's going to go into fund the sheriff's employees And it raises the problem that it is the taxpayers' power over this board through its electoral process and its approval of taxes that supports general services like law enforcement. To have private enterprise and private interests come in, support the sheriff however worthy the goal may be creates the equivalent of a quid pro quo. There's no free lunch I can't believe that. And when I reviewed the materials for this morning session I saw that the policy was pretty vague and has allowed for an incredible amount of leeway as to how you're going to do it, and what you're going to do it other than the items that I mentioned.
And I request that you articulate What policies you are supporting to ask or invite or accept cash donations for the funding of various departmental functions and thereby undermine the democratic process where the taxpayer is the one who is supposed to be in the driver's seat ultimately. Thank you for your consideration.
Thank you supervisor will
thank you madam chair Sir I just want to thank you for bringing this item up. I had a similar question that I have asked County Council who subsequently spoke to the sheriff and because I was wondering if it had to do with personnel. The answer I received, I'm satisfied with us moving forward with this. I think the sheriff has, maybe it would be appropriate for Mr. Malachian to explain publicly the use or the potential use of these funds.
Thank you Supervisor Wolf to the Chair. The donation is gratefully accepted by the Sheriff's Office and as the board letter indicates will be placed in a restricted fund. It is for the refurbishment and improvement of the Coastal Patrol Station, it has nothing to do with personnel or employee benefits. Coastal Patrol Station is in very poor condition and in fact we are working with the City of Carpentry at this point dealing with some mold issues among other things.
So we don't have a specific plan yet for how to utilize the fund but we will come back to the board when we do and our commitment is that it is solely for the use or refurbishment of that facility and nothing else.
Supervisor Williams?
Well, I do think it's a real issue in the long run. The way it's supposed to work is that we are supposed to tax ourselves of the necessary resources to fund public safety and the other purposes of our union of government. The reality is we don't do that. So I hope that the advocate would support a sales tax for, say, public safety and parks and libraries as better means for the Democratic electorate to support these in a sustainable manner.
I think we have to do this because. It's important that we provide the best public safety product that we can even if this isn't the best way to do it. The cleanest, best way is for us to assess ourselves the necessary resources to fund the level of public safety that the public wants and that would require a sales tax so I hope you'd consider supporting sales tax with that measure.
Supervisor Lavanino?
Thank you Madam Chair. I would want to argue the other side of that, I think when I got on the board the Sheriff's Department budget was somewhere in the high 90 millions and this year it is 135 or 136 million. I don't think you could ever tax the populace enough that we would say we have enough money here to do what we'd like to do so I don' think that is the answer.
The donation. It's obviously not the I think we've had some of these issues to with some donated aircraft and they do it does raise you know a few concerns but I for one would not think that this is a case of we're just not taxing people enough so we need to go to some of our other folks for donations, but maybe just live within our means a little bit more
I just wanted to follow up on that point you made Supervisor Lavanino. I believe there is precedent for this, I attended the fireball and they were raising money to support the fire department so this happens on occasion and I would like verification that this isn't the first time this has come before us.
Chair Hartman, Supervisors the board has made this acceptance of limited purpose donations in the past. It's it's codified and it has been a standard practice along the way.
Thank you. And there are safeguards in that process? Madam chair. Yes. Supervisor Adam.
Yeah, I just want to comment. My staff and I struggled about whether or not to pull this item yesterday and now that we have a little more detail on this You know what it boils down to is a failure to maintain our assets. And there's just another example and you know the sheriff in his creativity has gone out and maybe solicited these I don't know where these donations come from, and I don' t know how they are generated whether they're solicited or unsolicited and that Creates a different question which we probably ought to think about it little bit.
But we just haven't done our maintenance. And of course, and I don't know what the division of effort is on maintenance of Sheriff's assets whether we're supposed to be maintaining those county buildings or that comes out of his budget but I agree with Supervisor Lavinino that we can't Tax everybody enough to do all the stuff, and when we fail to do our maintenance, we're just misprioritizing some of our spending. And we've been doing that for a very long period of time, and so you're starting to see the effects of that at this point. And to such an extent that somebody would put $100,000 into maintaining Building which wasn't maintained properly in the first place or it wouldn't have mold in it. So that's a condition that if it is bad, it's going to lead to more closed session time for us in the future because employees are exposed to mold.
So you know I would always encourage us and take this opportunity to encourage us to do what's primary responsibility which is to manage our assets well.
Do we need a separate vote on this item Supervisor Adam? No.
Not for me, I'm going to support the item but I find it sad and pathetic that we have to go out and solicit donations to do something that is our primary responsibility.
Supervisor Wolf and then
Supervisor Williams. Thank you Madam Chair if there are no further comments on these items I would like to move the balance of the consent agenda.
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And Chair Hartman, I understand Supervisor Wolf's motion to include at 822 moving the remainder of those budget revision requests other than 5063 which was voted on separately.
Yes that was voted on separately so it wouldn't be part of this motion.
So we need to call the vote?
Ms. Wolfe Aye Mr. Adam Aye Mr. Lavagnino, Mr. Williams, Ms. Hartman. Aye. Passes
5-0. Okay now is the time for public comment on items not on today's agenda do we have any speaker slips Mr. Allen?
No requests.
Turning then to our departmental agenda item number one would you read that into the record and Mr. Bozanich oh there you are
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chair Hartman, members of the board this is the first of two Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act or TEFRA hearings on your agenda this morning. As an overview a TEFRA hearing is required when revenue bonds are issued to finance the project of a tax-exempt charitable corporation. The statute doesn't lay out a specific procedure for approving other than Other than the approval by the governmental unit following reasonable public notice and the subject to community input in consideration of that input by the board.
By the way, I want to thank Mr. Gazzone for those words. Both hearings today have been sufficiently noticed both have been granted concurrence by county council auditor controller and on last Thursday by the debt advisory committee. The debt you are requested to consider and possibly approve is not a debt of the county. Agenda item D1 requests a public hearing on a debt issuance of up to six million dollars by the California Enterprise Development Authority or CEDA, a joint powers authority of which Santa Barbara County is an associate member for the benefit of the Santa Barbara student housing I'd like With us today are representatives from Bond Council, Sam Ballacy.
Also Mr. Frank Thompson and others from Santa Barbara Student Housing if you were to have questions about the projects itself or the financing. We are available to answer any questions. Afterwards I'd ask that you open the public hearing, receive any public input and then consider adoption of the resolution approving the issuance of tax exempt debt for the benefit of Santa Barbara student housing as well as approve the CEQA findings as identified in the board letter. And with that myself and others would be available for any questions you might have before opening the public hearing.
And seeing no lights, let's go directly to public comment.
Chair Hartman and members of the board we have two requests to speak this morning. We're going to start with Dashina Nanthakumar to be followed by Frank Thompson.
Hi good morning. I am the president of the Board of Directors at the Student Housing Cooperative in Santa Barbara and I'm just here to give a statement saying that the housing cooperative comes together from all of the houses and all the presidents and representatives make the decisions collectively for all of our houses so this would mean a lot to me if you would approve it, and I am sure to everyone else on the board as well. Thank you.
Frank Thompson.
Hello Frank Thompson so I serve on the board of the Student Housing Cooperative which has been very enjoyable for the last seven years. When I first joined the board or rejoined the board, I helped start them 40 years ago there were about 40 of us so it's turned out to be this is their anniversary year but at any rate this is an exciting time for the board because this refinancing would help save quite a bit I also wanted to say that First Republic Bank would be the purchaser of this debt and we've had a co-op has had a relationship with first republic for over 10 years so they've been really very good for us. This is an excellent interest rate and if you have any questions I'm available.
Is this your first house in Santa Barbara?
Yes the student co-op has five houses of different apartment houses and dormitory spaces in Isla Vista but this would permit us to purchase property at 721 West Victoria which would house 11 students. Our plan is to provide some housing away from UCSB for graduate students.
And could you talk a little more about the model of cooperative housing?
Love to. This particular one, this co-op is actually a nonprofit corporation which is like a trust so although it has members and the members have voting rights they don't actually own the property. The corporation itself owns the property and builds the equity in the houses and we've had an appraisal The six co-op properties together would be just about $12 million and this is $6 million worth of financing. So over 40 years they've accumulated $6 million in equity.
Again it is to support education generally the students rotate, they have certain hours of required service each week which includes service on their house board and this Board of Directors. So they learn a great deal about running a small business as well as interpersonal relations.
And am I correct that over time you are making money and reinvesting in new housing so this is a growing housing stock? And you're consolidating debt so that you can pay off some of the previous mortgages or loans at a lower rate?
Right, that's correct. So principally that and to acquire the new house and this also provides funding for capital repairs at some of the existing houses. That's
all the questions I have thank you. Supervisor Adam did you have any questions? I just wanted to check in with you now and then.
Thank you for doing that, I'm still alive no questions.
Okay paying attention. I see no lights up here, I just wanted to say that the cooperative housing model is a really strong model. I was a teacher at Oberlin College where this was developed and it really gives the students a major role in learning how to manage a household as well as how Manage the finances and it's I'm very excited to see it here in Santa Barbara. And thank you Mr. Thompson for all the work you're doing for 40 years commitment.
My pleasure, thank you.
Supervisor Williams
I think it's very supportive. We need far more student housing to address the skyrocketing rents in our community. It's not just for the benefit of students but it's also for the benefit of residents because the less that they're competing for the same housing, the less our rents will be skyrocketing so I think it's supportable for many reasons and I'll move approval.
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And call the vote.
Ms. Wolfe aye Mr. Adam.
Aye
Mr. Lavinino aye Mr. Williams aye Ms. Hartman
aye
passes 5-0
Okay item number two would you read that into the record.
Chair Hartman, members of the board, Item 2 also from the County Executive Office a hearing to consider recommendations regarding California Enterprise Development Authority financing of tax exempt private activity bonds on behalf of the Dunn School.
Chair Hartman, members of the board. Agenda item two requests a hearing and approval by resolution of a debt issuance of up to $8 million on behalf of Dunn School, a non-profit corporation by the California Enterprise Development Authority. Dunn School would use the proceeds from the issuance for financing and refinancing educational facilities including a student center at their campus in Los Levos.
Again Sam Balassi, Bond Council is with us to answer any questions about the proposed issuance as well as representatives from Dunn School. Chad who is their CFO is here to answer any questions. Just a reminder to you and to the public that this debt issuance is not a debt of the county. Your approval is needed to allow this non-profit to be able to access tax exempt financing And with that we'd be happy to answer any questions followed by the opening of the public hearing and possible adoption of the approval resolution as well as the CEQA findings.
No lights on up here so we can go to the public.
No requests to speak.
Okay may I have a motion? Thank you Madam Chair, I'll move this item.
Second.
Miss Wolfe, aye. Mr. Adam, aye. Mr Lavinino, aye. Mr Williams, aye Ms Hartman, aye Passes 5-0
Turning to item number three
Chairman members of the board item 3 from public works and to the board is the Board of Directors of Laguna County Sanitation District. This is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Laguna County Sanitation District ordinance relative to service charges, connection fees, trunk line fees and resolution relative to collection of service charges on the tax roll third fourth and fifth districts
Madam chair members of the board this is our annual rate setting hearing for the Laguna County Sanitation District and Marty Wilder will be making the presentation today.
Good morning Chair, Members Board of Directors. Laguna County Sanitation District was established in 1958 provides wastewater services to the Orcutt and unincorporated Santa Maria area regulated by a handful of permits and its mission is to conserve and protect our resources The annual rates and fee ordinance today. The action was published pursuant to Prop 218 as well as government code requirements it was sent out to our customers about 12,000 customers service connections rather on 10,000 parcels the hearing was published pursuance of the government code in the Santa Maria Times we held an open house and we to date have received about eight protests Sewer charge rates pay for the annual operation maintenance replacement and reserves of the fund for the district.
It's collected on the tax roll, and this year we're proposing a 1.9% increase which is consistent with the CPI to keep up with costs. The prior five-year rate adjustments were intended to provide for the replacement of the old plant processes known as the phase one plant upgrade as presented to the board in 2011 in the master plan. The master plan assessed the condition of the plant and looked into performance in the future. It reviewed current and upcoming regulatory criteria, compared treatment discharge alternatives, and then defined our plant upgrades in two phases. Phase one would be to replace the existing old plants as I mentioned And the phase 2 plan upgrade would be for future capacity needs to accommodate development. It also evaluated the costs and revenue needs to pay for these improvements.
The proposed sewer charge this year is $981.99 on the tax roll for a single family residential unit equivalent, last years rate was 963.68 so that's an annual increase of 1831 which is equivalent to about $1.52 a month. Multiple family rates are slightly less and they're set proposed to be set at $8.1954 per year, schools are at $50.94 per capita per year and the commercial is based on flow and load as a residential unit equivalent.
Countywide just in comparison, Laguna County Sanitation District treats to tertiary disinfectant levels and the upper tier shows the other agencies that do so 81-83 per month. And the assumed or proposed rate increase those other agencies are proposing for next year. The other agencies in the county treat secondary levels and their monthly rates and proposed increases are shown.
The average countywide is just under $65 a month. When you combine this with water and sewer together, they get a bit more of a representative analysis and you can see that County averages at 145 per month and combined with the water and sewer service for our customers, it's about just under $131 per month. Developer impact fees, we have some. They're paid by development to pay for their equity buy-in to the system. We have some for trunk lines and also for plant improvements. Connection fees fund the plan improvements while the trunk line pay for replacement of major collection system portions.
The fees are adjusted pursuant to ordinances and or agreements. The connection fee has a rate increase of 4% per residential unit equivalent and is proposed to be at $7,219 per unit. Trunk line fees the Dutard-Solomon trunk line was a line that the district constructed has a 4% rate increase and is set to be proposed to be at 1,024 dollars per unit. Whereas the Bradley Solomon trunk line was constructed by private interest and we have a reimbursement agreement and that is based on the prime rate which is 3.75% and therefore the per unit cost would be $2,436. So recommendation by staff is to adopt the ordinance as recommended.
Thank you any questions for Mr. Wilder? Supervisor Adam just checking in
No I think that, you know, I've spent some time out there with Marty and the facility is being improved and it's necessary maintenance. And I'm really happy about the way it's gone and I thought if anything we were going to get more kickback back in the days when we were having 10% and 12% rate increases for the first five years of this or is this the fifth year?
Of this program. And now we're just down to CPI adjustments which is fantastic so I really support it.
Okay any public speaking slips?
Chair Harmon, members of the board with two requests we're going to go to Santa Maria for Todd Wilson to be followed by Chuck Williams Mr. Wilson
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Madam Chair, members of the board. My name is Todd Wilson. I live at 114 Wilson Drive in Orkney. I recently moved from Ojai. I've lived here about a year and a half and I am a homeowner. I wanted to point out to the board and Supervisor Adam made comment about the increases over the last five years. And I reviewed my tax bill, and 2011-2012 year was $590. 2016-2017 year it was $964.
That in itself, had I lived here over that period of time, I certainly would have been concerned with the amount of rate increase and what kind of improvement would have occurred over that period of time to allow that. I do see the proposed 1.9% and I do have a question whether CPI is the factor if we're going to use a CPI as an index, whether that's relative to In the district itself- and having seen increases of about 38% over that five year period of time.
Another concern that I have is that there is a proposed expansion- I had an opportunity to visit with And I am concerned about the proposed expansion and the debt service that would be on that. And if that's going to be on top of the existing $964 assessment, that's a concern to me future tense. And question would be is that going to push ORCA into the lead as far as sanitation district expenses? And I'm concerned with that.
I do notice, I did notice on my tax bill that there are a number of other special districts and I would be interested in knowing and I don't know the answer to this whether any of these districts have incurred those kind of 38% increases over that period of time. My main concern is future tents, what is this bond issue and what is the debt service and what will the overall sanitation district expense be to me. And thanks very much for letting me speak with you this morning.
Todd Wilson?
That was Mr. Wilson. Oh pardon me Chuck Williams.
Good morning Madam Chair and Board. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak. I have mixed feelings about this project. The percentage that has gone up that I was presented with on my statement from the Laguna Sanitation District said it was an 87% increase. In approximately 2010, my sewage bill was $500 a year. My sewer rate has gone up 200%. My sewer rate is $1,640 a year. Now Supervisor Adam thank you for giving me some of your time last Thursday I do really appreciate it the time that you spent with me and I did not intend to blindside you and I apologize again for that This agenda item you all are about to vote on causes me concern. I did submit a letter yesterday to the clerk of the board, I do believe in Supervisor Adams' way of keeping infrastructure in sound condition and I applaud you Mr.
Adam for your courage and your past success. You do have an uphill battle most of the time. This time, as you know I have concerns about this new proposed sewer plant expansion. My concern is the future 1.9% automatic tax increase on my property taxes. Also the Proposition 13 additional 2% tax on top of that now makes this a 3.9 percent increase compounded annually.
Most taxpayers do not get an automatic compounding 1.9 percent pay raise every year, and many of them take cuts. Senior citizens on Social Security did not get a cost-of-living raise at all last year. What guarantee do we have as taxpayers? That this increase will not end up spent in Santa Barbara or used for unfunded pensions, or any place other than this sewer plant.
In this district. Laguna Sanitation District has a $16 million bank account to be used to obtain lower interest rates on future bonds and grants according to the plant manager Marty Wilder. How many bonds or grants are needed? When can we expect this to end? The new plant cost is now estimated to be $40 million, and $16 million has already been accumulated in the past approximate six years.
This equals about a $2.7 million per year income. That leaves $24 million to collect from taxpayers. Now this leaves approximately nine years to pay off the estimated $40 million debt. How many years will we be paying for bonds and grants? Clearly, there is more than enough tax income now to cover the new cost of the $40 million plant without grants or bond money after the new plant is constructed.
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Thank you. So that closes the public portion of this hearing and we bring it back to Mr. Wilder were there any responses you would like to make to comments you heard?
Madam Chair, members of the Board. The previous rate increases anticipated debt service into the future so there will not be a compounding of increased rates in the future based on going out to debt. Also as one gentleman mentioned, the capital improvements estimated about $40 million and we have $16 million already set aside for the amount. So the amount we'll need to borrow should be significantly less than the $40 million.
And just in response to a comment this money will only be spent on this project is that correct?
Madam Chair as the board of directors for Laguna County Sanitation District yes it will be.
Thank you any other board comments? Supervisor Adam again checking in
Well, you just covered one of my points. Thank you for asking Supervisor Hartman and Chair. You know these rate increases have been a long time coming. We got it for cheap for many many years and now we gotta pay a little extra because nobody paid in. Like so many things at the county do, we build it and then Operate it and we don't put away for a fund for maintaining it and replacing it as we, even though we know it's wearing out at some kind of an anticipated or anticipatable rate.
And so we had to Radically jack up the rates for a few years in a row, and now we're through that. And I think our public works department's done a fantastic job of planning it and financing it. And I think it's gonna be a great project, and everybody in Orchid that flushes their toilet, which is everybody that I know, is gonna appreciate that in the future.
Would you care to make the motion?
I move staff recommendations.
May I have a second? Would you call the vote?
Ms. Wolfe? Aye. Mr. Adams? Aye, Mr. Lavinino? Aye Mr. Williams? Aye Ms. Hartman?
Aye
Passes 5-0
Turning to agenda item number four
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Chair Hartman members of the board item for some planning and development. It's a hearing to consider the recommendation during the Montecito and County Planning Commission approve case number 17 ORD 1, 2 and 3 which would amend respectively the Montecito land use and development code And the County Land Use and Development Code and the Coastal Zoning Ordinance to implement Program 2.8 of the Santa Barbara County 2015-2023 Housing Element Update. Thank you.
Mr. Klayman do you want to introduce your team? Good
morning Madam Chair, members of the board yes I'd like to introduce Mr. Alan Bell Supervising Planner in the Long Range Planning Division and Ms. Jessie Steele for her first board presentation so thank you very much.
Good morning Chair Hartman and members of the board. My name is Jessica Steele, and today I'll present an overview of Program 2.8, a housing element implementation program that proposes zoning ordinance amendments to permit transitional and supportive housing in accordance with state law. Homelessness is a prevalent issue throughout the state and in our community.
In January 2015, Common Ground Santa Barbara and the Central Coast Collaborative on Homelessness conducted a survey and counted over 1400 homeless persons in the cities and unincorporated areas of the county. Of those individuals 37% said they were living in shelters or transitional housing. These figures reflect a community need for transitional and supportive housing.
These housing types link affordable housing to supportive or social services and therefore enable recovery and stable independent living for those in need. These next couple slides will provide background on transitional and supportive housing as well as target populations. Formal definitions have been adopted by the state and can be found in attachments three, five, and seven of the board letter.
In short, supportive housing is permanent rental housing for members of target populations meaning persons with low incomes and one or more disabilities. Supportive housing offers supportive services to its residents which can be received in their home or in the community. Some examples of these services include medical care and mental health services. Transitional and supportive housing often occupy one, two and multiple family dwellings so they easily blend in with the surrounding neighborhood.
Transitional housing specifically targets homeless individuals this may include target populations such as youth aging out of foster care or adults leaving institutional settings and to address the needs of these populations transitional housing sets limits on the length of stay Usually with a minimum of 6 months and a maximum of 2 years. The housing is provided at little to no cost to the resident and they typically offer supportive services that help residents to retain stable permanent housing such as counseling and vocational training The state adopted new housing laws that require local jurisdictions to remove constraints to the development of transitional and supportive housing.
Specifically, government code section 65583A5 states transitional and supportive housing shall be considered a residential use of property and shall be subject only to those restrictions that apply to other residential dwellings in the same zone. Given the state mandate, the Board of Supervisors included Program 2.8 in the 2015-2023 Housing Element Update. This program directs the county to amend its zoning ordinances to comply with state law regarding the permitting of transitional and supportive housing.
Currently the zoning ordinances implicitly allow transitional and supportive housing within various dwellings and a special care homes but to comply with state law we must make these uses explicit. So to do that, the proposed amendments include the following changes to the zoning ordinances. First they add definitions of supportive housing target population and transitional housing verbatim from government code section 65582 Second, they list transitional and supportive housing as residential uses in applicable zones.
And lastly, they include new provisions to allow transitional and supportive housing as residential uses with no additional restrictions. This means transitional and supportive housing will be permitted and regulated identically to other dwellings of the same type in the same zone. Therefore, the proposed amendments would not allow new dwelling types or change zoning regulations in any zone.
Rather they simply clarify that transitional and supportive housing are allowable uses that may occupy dwelling types already allowed in specific zones. At a public hearing on April 12th, the Montecito Planning Commission voted 4 to 0 to recommend approval of the proposed Montecito Land Use and Development Code amendments with minor revisions. And the proposed Coastal Zoning Ordinance amendments with no changes.
And at a public hearing on May 3rd, the County Planning Commission voted 4 to zero to recommend approval of the proposed County Land Use and Development Code and Coastal Zoning Ordinance amendments. As part of public outreach for Program 2.8, staff consulted with the California Department of Housing and Community Development while drafting the proposed amendments.
They created a new webpage on the Long Range Planning Division's website Placed display ads in regional newspapers approximately three weeks prior to the first public hearing. Sent notices to various community organizations and groups, including the Eastern Goleta Valley Coalition and the Joint Cities County Affordable Housing Task Group. These notices were sent out in advance of and separate from hearing notices.
And staff also attended a housing task group meeting on April 27th and presented the proposed ordinance amendments. The proposed amendments to all 3 zoning ordinances are exempt from CEQA pursuant to guidelines section 15061B3. This exempts projects that have no possibility of significant effect on the environment. The proposed amendments only clarify allowed uses and do not propose any new dwelling types or residential uses, therefore no changes in physical development would occur that could have a significant effect on the environment and thus the project is exempt from CEQAs The proposed amendments to the coastal zoning ordinance also qualify for a statutory exemption from CEQA under guideline section 15265, which states that government activities requiring the preparation and adoption of local coastal program amendments are statutorily exempt from CEQAs.
The recommendations for your board are summarized on this slide and can be found on pages 1 and 2 of the board letter. Staff recommends that your board make the required findings for approval including CEQA findings, determine that the project is exempt from CEQA pursuant to guidelines sections 15061 and 15265 And adopt the proposed amendments to the Montecito Land Use and Development Code, County Land Use and Development Code, and the Coastal Zoning Ordinance.
And this concludes my presentation and staff is available to answer any questions.
Thank you do we have any questions for Ms. Steele? Supervisor Wolf.
Thank you Madam Chair first of all thank you for your presentation did a great job. You started off by saying that this transitional and supportive we're pretty much inclusive of what we now what we call special care homes and is that the group of homes where we have a limit of the number of people that can it's at six that can stay in those homes?
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Supervisor Wolfe through the chair. In our zoning ordinances we do currently make a distinction for special care homes with six or fewer and seven or more residences residents but according to state law we cannot do that with transitional and supportive housing
OK so there is no limit on the number of people that can reside in a home. Who will what department if there is one would it be HCD who monitors that? The people who are living in these homes actually get the programs and the care that they are supposed to beginning Or do we just allow it and then we don't there's no follow up. I'm just curious.
Madam Chair, Supervisor Wolf. The way these are set up now is there are provisions under state law for licensing of some facilities of this nature but licensing is not a requirement so the way we set it up is that the applicant would need to apply specifically for this use under the terms under which it's allowed but we don't have It would be a state agency that would monitor unlicensed facilities, nor with the county proactively monitor those.
Would basically be the conditions and the project description that regulate the use.
Could that be something that the county could do though is to monitor? I mean are we precluded from doing that? Making sure that they're following the intent of this law which is to keep the rents low or no rent and providing services. Because what I would hate to do is have someone come in and say this is what we're doing, we're going to put 10 people in a home and then they end up You know then they may end up charging rents that aren't acceptable. So what is the it seems like we need to have an enforcement piece to help me understand why we wouldn't
Madam Chair Supervisor Wolf. The real intent of these is to treat these uses as we would treat other residential uses and with other residential uses we don't have any type of regular monitoring that we do in terms of the number of individuals and those types of things. So I think the way we've set things up here again is to mirror how we permit other residential uses and not impose additional conditions upon these particular uses The actual permitting for it would specify the purpose of it and if there was some type of an alleged complaint, then the county could investigate that as part of an enforcement action and take necessary steps to correct that.
And that again we treat these transitional supportive uses as we treat other residential uses.
Okay well thank you. I guess that's philosophically an appropriate thing to do if we're looking at all housing as being important for these folks and I guess we'll just wait and see how it all plays out. All right, thank you Madam Chair.
Thank you for your concerns. I have in my district not this kind of housing but other kinds of housing that are creating a great deal of trouble for neighbors and many concerns about building senior housing without the wraparound services that are required or group homes without the proper regulation so I see this as an issue going forward and I'm very grateful that Supervisor Wolf flagged it What happens if we don't approve this? I assume there are dire consequences from the state.
Madam Chair well a couple of things one is as Ms. Steele mentioned this is a program in our housing element that the county did commit to looking at and taking under its consideration so if we were to reject it, it would really fly in the face of one of our programs in the housing element. The second thing is that It is state law right now. So if someone pressed the county for this use, the county would have to follow state law regardless of what the ordinances say. What we're trying to do is really clarify the ordinance bring them into compliance with state law And I think also by doing that it does clarify and signal that these are uses that are allowed. It's a definite community need so it's not something that one has to really delve deeply into the ordinance in order to discover whether or not the use is actually allowed.
So it's really kind of a public service and a way to help foster this type of housing.
Mr. Gazzone and then Supervisor Williams
Chair Hartman and Supervisors, I'll just generally agree with what Mr. Bell has said and that is that the transitional housing and supportive housing component is a required part of the housing element. Johanna Hartley was with me today and had actually done the look-see at this and we could address any compare and contrast with general residential housing but the short answer is that this section is designed to treat these as residential housing
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Supervisor Williams. Oh did Miss Hartley? Supervisor Wolf would like to hear from you.
Chair and supervisors I guess to further clarify is that what the government code requires is that these types of housing transitional and supportive housing be treated the same and only be subject to the restrictions that apply to other residential dwellings of the same type in the same zone. So that limits the county's ability to impose additional or greater restrictions on these forms of housing.
Supervisor Williams and then Supervisor Wolk.
Well one of the things we bemoan over and over again is the number of homeless people dying on the streets, the number of homeless people creating problems for local businesses and residents. You don't solve these things by doing nothing you solve them by Actually creating opportunities for sound transitional housing. I'll put up an example in the first district of one, El Carrillo a project that I funded while we were on the City Council and Mayor Schneider helped lead the charge on that.
It's a great project I mean we do not get complaints in fact we get people from out of town who want to stay at our nice fancy hotel when it's homeless transitional housing.
We
don't
get TOT for
that. The reason is because it's designed, it has staff support on site and frankly we haven't been able to restrict the amount of people in units since one local jurisdiction tried You know over 20 years ago 30 years ago and it was struck down by the courts. So it's not constitutional to do so. And this is the best solution both to comply with state law, the Constitution and our own ideals of wanting to house homeless instead of them you know dying and creating problems on the street
Supervisor Wolf
and then I'll move the staff
recommendation. May I have a second? And then, yeah wait we haven't had public comment yet so let's wait on the motion if we could. Supervisor Wolf and then Supervisor Adam if you have something to add.
Thank You Madam Chair I just obviously this is an appropriate goal to get homeless off the street what I worry about is Not just the enforcement but the reality of doing this. You know when we talk about temporary housing for the homeless that's transitional and it's six months to two years what I just I'm still not comfortable with the fact that there is no oversight because if that's and also that they are supposed to be getting counseling and vocational training So to say, not you but the state is saying we'll treat this as a residential home. Again that's a lofty goal but it's in fact not because there are certain requirements again its six months to two years living there and they are supposed to receive services So, I guess what I heard Mr.
Bell say is that there is no enforcement from the county that we will only be dependent upon people complaining and what I think we might hear the complaints is maybe they don't want transitional housing in their neighborhood which would be unfortunate but I think the complaints I just want to make sure that we have a clear understanding of what should be is that whoever is owning the home To the extent that we can look at this in the future, I think we should. Because honestly this state law to me is flawed and I wish there was a little bit more teeth in it so.
But I will go ahead and support the motion because as has been stated, that's the state law and that's what we have to do. But again, I think it's flawed and I don't really think it... I think there is the opportunity for people to take advantage of the homeless, to take advantage of people with disabilities or low income. And I hope that doesn't happen.
Supervisor Adam and then we'll go for public comment.
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I have a couple comments and a question one question is what's the difference between this in a short-term rental are we making long term contracts over 30 days with with the people that will be staying in these homes?
Madam Chair, Supervisor Adam. The shortest amount of time that a resident could stay in transitional or supportive housing is six months and I do believe they have to sign a lease for that so it wouldn't be something like a short-term rental where they're only staying there for 30 days or less.
Okay so we can't charge any TOT? That's a joke. Okay well what's not a joke is the number of homeless that we have here and you know when I came, I'm not recalling which exact year this was but it was early in my tenure in the first term. And I believe the point-in-time count was around 900 or so. And now we've got 1,400. And I think as much as you want to help people if you build it they will come and to the extent that we drop more people here because we make it really comfortable we're going to end up with more homeless people here.
So I think at some point and you know this is a state law we are just observing but at some point we're going to have to take a look at the strategy because it's not working.
Supervisor Williams and then public comment.
Just want to remind the board that if somebody wanted to try to take advantage of the homeless then they would just not call it transitional in support of housing, they'd If somebody wanted to rent out- you know by the night or. By the month or whatever- to a large group of people I guess you could call that a flop house- I could imagine what kind of abuses would happen but if somebody wanted to take advantage of the homeless by doing a flophouse they just wouldn't call it transitional. Or supportive housing and Because you can't restrict constitutionally the number of people per bedroom or per home. So there's a route for them to exploit people and they wouldn't take this much trouble, to call it transitional housing if they just wanted to exploit people.
Do we have public speaker slips?
One request to speak Frank Thompson
Hello Frank Thompson I work as a housing consultant. I've worked in affordable housing in Santa Barbara County now for about 39 years and from time to time sponsors, nonprofit sponsors or government have attempted to do projects of this nature and it has been difficult. I think it has had a chilling effect. In the past to anticipate having to get a minor conditional use permit or major conditional use permit solely because there was a supportive housing component. We really had a very gray area in the ordinance before this I don't think it's been looked at in probably 40 or 50 years so updating it to current standards I think it's probably important. I do want to focus attention on this to a particular group, not necessarily the homeless and that would be the group of people who have permanent disability and have as their sole source of support SSI or SSA, SSDI other types of government support so you may not, there are about 11,000 people that receive only SSI income And are disabled in Santa Barbara County at the last census of that population.
And they need to get by in this county on $865 a month for the rest of their life. And they need a house or an apartment or room at about $235 a month to be affordable. We will never have enough section 8 to fund all 11,000 of them so the other types of housing assistance are generally not available to these folks. So this state law as I understand it defines three conditions to be covered and that is you must be low income, you must have a permanent disability and you must participate in the recovery program.
So that covers possibly a group of the homeless but largely the group of people who are permanently disabled. And so that to me is what the state law is really about and to provide access to decent and affordable housing for that group. So I certainly urge you to support this and I'll do my best to work with sponsors to bring forward some proposals all of which will be restricted as you've mentioned.
Thank you.
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Supervisor Wolf has a question for you Mr. Thomson.
Thank you for bringing up the disabled population and I do recall that was one of the requirements is that there was a disability but one of the things that you said was they have to be involved in a recovery program and I don't remember seeing that so I would like maybe staff to explain or further expand on that because what if you might be low income and have a disability but not necessarily need a recovery program.
So I'd really like just to clarify what the requirements are. Thank you for speaking.
Did you have something to add Mr. Nielsen? No,
I'm sorry I didn't bring the state definitions with me because they are very particular And not maybe the most obvious meaning of those words.
Chair Hartman, Supervisor Wolf. From what we understand from the government code transitional and supportive housing is required to provide or offer supportive services either on site or in the community but it's actually up to the residents if they would like to participate in those services. They're not a mandatory part of their tenancy in these homes.
Thank you for that.
So just to follow on, when the project comes forward to the planning and development department it can't be a condition of the project that they actually provide the services that the state law says they're supposed to provide?
Chair Hartman no we cannot impose those conditions because they're not something we would require
Regular residential housing okay. I think now we're ready for a motion.
Move staff recommendation.
I'll second. Call the roll.
Ms. Wolfe? Aye. Mr. Adams?
Aye
Mr. Lavinino? Aye Mr. Williams? Aye Ms. Hartman? Aye This is 5-0
Yeah I think we'll take a ten minute break before we come to item number five, the CREF grants.
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We're reconvening the June 20th 2017 meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. We are to item number five on our agenda would you read that into the record Mr. Allen?
Chair Hartman, members of the board. Item fives from planning and development it's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Coastal Resource Enhancement Fund guidelines and the allocation for the 2017 craft grants
Good morning Madam Chair, members of the Board of Supervisors. My name is Peter Cantle and I'm the division manager for the Energy and Minerals Division. To my immediate right is Erin Briggs, the energy specialist and to my far right is Kathy Pfeiffer. Kathy will be handling the presentation today covering our recommended allocations for 2017, some modifications to the CREF guidelines and a few other matters which Kathy will take away.
Thank you. Thank you Mr. Cantle. Good morning Chair Hartman and supervisors this is a hearing to amend the CREF guidelines and allocate the 2017 CREFS awards. Staff recommendations for your board today We'll include amending the KREF guidelines. Consider and approve staff's recommendations for the 2017 KREAF awards, direct staff to prepare the necessary contractual agreements, extend the 2016 KREAF award to the Trust for Public Land for acquisition of the Gaviota Marine Terminal property until June of 2019, and determine these actions are exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act.
The first amendment proposed for the CREF guidelines, we're going to start with that. Staff recommends that CREF cycles be conducted every other year instead of annually until the Point Arguello and San Ynez unit projects resume operations. As you know these facilities are not operating due to the shut-in planes pipeline. Last June your board approved lowering both facilities' CREF fees since potential coastal impacts were reduced because the two operators purged oil from their facilities.
Accumulating two years of CREF fees before soliciting proposals would allow a larger amount to be available, making it more worthwhile for an applicant to spend time preparing a CREF application. And in addition conducting cycles every other year would be more administratively efficient by reducing costs associated with staff time. Second, staff recommends a schedule to set aside one million of CREF fees over time to comply with the Coastal Commission special condition on the Point Arguello coastal development permit.
The special condition required Point Arguello to provide one million to Santa Barbara County through its first three CREF payments earmarked for a Hollister Ranch public access program. Point Arguello made its first three craft payments back in the late 1980s. However, the county did not set aside $1 million and instead funded coastal enhancement projects. Currently there is a lawsuit addressing public recreational access to the Hollister Ranch.
In recognition that the Coastal Conservancy may request funds if and when this lawsuit is resolved in their favor, and because we are currently collecting less annual CREF fees due to the shutdown of two facilities, staff is recommending funds be set aside to meet the Coastal Commission's condition beginning this year in 2017. This will require setting aside approximately $125,000 to $250,000 a year for the next five to seven years.
Staff will continue to monitor the status of the Hollister Ranch access case and if necessary we'll return to your board with a recommendation on accelerating a set-aside schedule Moving on to the 2017 KREF cycle. The county received 14 proposals to consider, two of which are acquisitions. As you can see from this slide, the proposals are seeking more than what we have available in both the acquisition and general allocation sub funds.
Attachment B of your board letter includes a detailed evaluation of each of the proposals Staff recommends funding eight of the 14 proposals in the 2017 cycle. This slide shows staff's recommendation for the two recommend acquisition awards. The first recommendation is for 144,750 craft grant to the city of Carpinteria and the land trust for Santa Barbara County.
A CREF award would help the two entities purchase the Carpinteria Bluffs III property in Carpinteria. Staff believes the proposed acquisition would be an excellent use of CREF monies. The applicants have secured over $5.8 million towards the $6 million purchase price. The second recommendation is for 10,750 KREF grant to the city of Goleta. To go towards purchasing a quarter acre of open space and adding it to the existing spurling preserve in Goleta.
The city had returned this amount from a past KREFA award for a similar property because the city had over-fundraised. Staff recommends the money go back to the city to help purchase this property.
Could we interrupt? I don't think we have the PowerPoint as part of our package. We do. Share with me. But what about Janet?
They're gonna they're gonna get one.
Sorry to interrupt Miss Pfeiffer.
No problem do you want me to hold off until you get your copies or? Okay all right well we'll start on this slide which shows three of the general allocation CREF awards first proposal number one would help with countywide public outreach for the Channel Islands Marine and Wildlife Institute and countywide education on impacts that trash can have on marine mammals Second, proposal number four would aid the county in finalizing its engineering plans for Santa Claus Lane providing much needed infrastructure for all modes of transportation along Santa Claus Lane and the beach near Carpinteria.
Third, proposal number seven would help develop an offshore oil exhibit at the Santa Barbara Maritime Museum located in the Santa Barbara Harbor. This slide shows staff's recommendations for three additional general allocation CREF awards. First, proposal number 11 would enhance the Barone Ranch Trail located on the Gaviota Coast. Second, proposal number 13 would go towards marine-themed exhibits in a new outdoor space at the Santa Maria Valley Discovery Museum in Santa Maria.
And third, proposal number 14 would help prepare engineering designs to remove three barriers to still held migration in the Manzana Creek watershed and the Los Padres National Forest. In the 2016 CREF cycle, the Board awarded a CREF grant to the Trust for Public Land towards purchasing the Gaviota Marine Terminal property along the Gaviota Coast. That award was contingent on TPL entering into a signed purchase agreement by June of 2017.
To date, TPL and the landowner, Gaviota Terminal Company have not entered into a signed agreement. TPL states that it and GTC are in agreement with all the major acquisition terms however GTC has decided to hold off on executing TPL's purchase agreement until after the first phase of remediation of the property begins GTC demolition reclamation plan was approved by the zoning administrator in October of 2016 and GTC is hoping to begin implementation of that plan this summer.
We recommend extending the award until 2019 because the next KREF cycle would occur in 2019 if the board directs staff to solicit proposals every other year as we recommend in recommendation B. As noted last year, the acquisition strongly meets the CREF criteria and staff believes this acquisition is an excellent fit for CREF funding. This concludes staff's presentation. Staff's recommendations for your board today are listed on this slide, and again these include amend the CREF guidelines, approve staff's recommendations for the 2017 CREFS awards and direct staff to prepare the necessary contractual agreements, extend TPL's 2016 CREFF award until 2019, and determine that actions are exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act.
Most of the CREF applicants are here today to present their proposals to you, each within three minutes. There are some applicants who are not presenting but they are in the audience if you have any questions on their proposal and staff we are here available for any questions thank you.
Do you have a list of all the project applicants that you could project? If not we can make notes, I see here.
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Chair Hartman and supervisors I have a table here with all the names on it that we could copy off for
you. We've just been given one so we can take our notes up here I think that would be fine thank you. So are there any other questions of staff from the board? Checking in Supervisor Adam
Thank you Madam Chair I'm just going to go back to the million-dollar Pointer Guayo piece. So when did we discover this? We've just figured this out or has it been something that we have known for a while and now are getting around to rectifying it?
Ms. Black.
Madam Chair and Supervisor Lavinino, no we've known and the Board of Supervisors in its various forms since the 80s has known but it's something that we feel we should remedy now as the amount of crap is going down that we're collecting.
All right.
Seeing no more lights let's open it for public comment.
Supervisor
Williams while we are getting this together did you have something you wanted to add?
So in reading the staff report about that issue and the Hollister Ranch. Does that mean you are starting to set aside funds now and how much are you recommending to set aside?
Madam Chair and Supervisor Williams, we're recommending that we set aside the Point Argoyo contribution $125,000 until we reach that million. And so that's our general proposal and will be monitoring the Hollister Ranch situation in the litigation that's going on to see if we need to accelerate that but I think we'll be in good shape.
Okay
Mister Allen.
Miss Pfeiffer is going to read the names of the applicants and then we have one request for public comment at the conclusion of that.
We thought we might go just by how the proposal numbers are going so we'll start with proposal number 1 Dr. Sam Dover
Good morning, Madam Chair and members of the board. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to introduce ourselves to you. We're the Channel Islands Marine and Wildlife Institute and we rescue marine mammals in Santa Barbara County. And we just have a visual presentation that you can watch and it seems to be going rather rapidly so I'll just sit down and get out of the way.
Madam Chair, I never thought there would be a presentation that would try to tug at our heartstrings more than the kids dressed up as fish and octopus. Hard to beat a baby sea lion. I feel sorry for anybody who is coming after this.
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So I can see, I'm out of time but I'm available for any questions you might have.
I did have one Madam Chair. So you showed a picture of that building and I always wondered what it was so it's like in the Gaviota School. Are you based out of there?
Exactly yeah that's the historic Vista Del Mar school in Gaviota. It's been there since 1928 we obtained the lease from the Hollister families they owned portion of the building in 2004. We opened in 2006 and 2011 the Hollister family donated their portion to our nonprofit
Okay so you actually do the rehab and all that stuff down there? That's our
base of operations. We have indoor and outdoor facilities
here.
Thank you. You're
welcome.
Okay, our next speaker is Keira Redman.
Good afternoon Chair, Supervisors. I'm Kira Redmond from Santa Barbara Channel Keeper. Channel Keepers submitted a proposal for $15,000 in craft funds to support a project which aims to help ensure that important lessons learned from the Refufio oil spill are adequately addressed so that we are all better prepared and can respond more effectively to future spills in Santa Barbara County The work outlined in our proposal draws directly from recommendations outlined in the after action reports issued by county, state and federal spill response agencies. In the aftermath of this bill including the need for better transparency information sharing and engagement with NGOs and the public improved volunteer training and management baseline data on oiling from natural seeps in the region capacity building for NGOs and oil spill preparedness and response planning And greater awareness and utilization of local knowledge expertise and assets in spill response.
In the wake of the refugio spill it became clear that the public and local environmental organizations need to be better informed and empowered to contribute to spill response, and to efforts to prevent spills in the first place. We firmly believe that spill prevention and response will be strengthened by greater involvement by informed and trained NGOs, better accountability and transparency by spill response agencies and a more informed and engaged public.
Our hope is that the increased capacity, engagement and information and accountability that our project delivers will ultimately result in a cleaner environment by lessening the likelihood and impacts of future oil spills in Santa Barbara County. Under our project Channel Keeper aims to obtain specialized training for our staff so we have the knowledge skills and necessary certifications to serve as an affiliated volunteer in the response to future spills To participate in all meetings of the LA Long Beach Area Committee for Oil Spill Contingency Planning. To ensure that lessons learned from the Refugio spill are incorporated into oil spill response plans for our region.
To weigh in on the NERDA process to ensure adequate and appropriate funding for restoration, to mitigate the damage caused by the spill. To implement a monthly, bimonthly tarball monitoring program to gather useful baseline data about what constitutes normal tarball coverage from seeps on 16 local beaches Which will aid in the future spill identification and response.
And to develop two spill preparedness and response resource guides, one internal guide for channel keeper and another for the community which could be used as replicable templates that could help other NGOs and communities be better prepared for spills. The outcomes we hope to achieve are to ensure that spill response agencies Channel Keeper as an organization and Santa Barbara County as a community are better prepared and can respond more effectively in order to minimize the environmental and economic damage caused by spills that might occur in the future.
And to establish Channel Keeper as a go-to organization that the community and spill response agencies can turn to for information, expertise and assets to support effective response to future spills in our area. We possess a special set of skills and resources that make us uniquely equipped to contribute in a meaningful way to spill response. Our work under this project is already underway since we were able to secure some partial funding for the project, however, we will require additional funds to complete the project and would greatly appreciate your support to carry on this important work. Thank you.
I have a question Madam Chair. Supervisor Wolf. Ms. Redmond I noted from the staff report that one of the reasons that they denied the request was because some of the budget costs were ongoing operational costs or staffing costs And then I looked at your budget or request of $40,000 and then you just mentioned that you've received some other funding for this program.
If I was to add up some of the supplies in the monitoring and safety equipment it's about $9,000. Is that could you carry on this project with a smaller if let's just say there was an allocation of 9000 or $10,000 to channel keeper. Would that get you to the point where you can perform this service?
I think it could yes.
OK
all
right
thank you very much.
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OK our next speaker is Fred Shaw proposal number three.
Good morning Madam Chair and members of the board I'm Fred Shaw I'm the mayor for the city of Carpinteria the applicant for this craft grant and with me as Chet works the executive director of the land trust for Santa Barbara County who is a co-applicant We appreciate the opportunity to appear before you today. First I want to commend the staff for a very thorough report it goes without saying that the city and the land trust support the staff recommendation to fully fund our request for CREF funds.
These funds will be used to acquire 21 acre coastal carpentry of bluffs three property just up the coast from carpentry or from Rincon County Beach Park. As a coastal acquisition this project qualifies as a high priority for CREF funding. The project's location within the coastal zone on the Carpentaria Coast makes it ideal for vertical and horizontal public access providing a strong relationship to the coast. The property will ultimately host a part of the California Coastal Trail allowing it to be linked to several other protected coastal properties in the area including the County Park to the south and the Carpenteria Nature Preserve to the north.
Protecting the property's existing natural resources and providing opportunities for restoration will enhance coastal environmentally sensitive resources. And at the same time, the property will provide for passive recreational use. Finally acquiring the property will also preserve views of the Santa Barbara Channel and islands in the Santa Ynez Mountains. At this point I'll turn it over to Chet.
Thank you Mayor and Chair, members of the Board. Thank you for having us here today. We certainly appreciate the opportunity to request funding from you. Perhaps we could advance the slides. You can see an oblique view from Rincon Point looking across the property. And again as an advance there's two images here of recreation already occurring on the property.
One more advance. I wanted to bring to your attention that this is an excellent example of public and private partnership between a nonprofit organization, state and local agencies, and the community who if the project is completed will have contributed more than 84% of the funding needed to complete the acquisition. The Land Trust is pleased to report that if the grant is approved today, we will for sure retain our goal of $6 million in a few weeks. And for those of you who didn't see our newsletter, we had sort of a banner of the nearly 1,400 citizens in the county that have contributed already more than $5 million in private funding and $800,000 thus far in public funding for this acquisition. We thank you for your consideration.
Any questions. Who took that photograph.
Cameras are interesting these days. That's Bruce Reiterman conservation director for the land trust took that photo.
Thank you thank you.
My understanding for proposal number four is that we have somebody in the audience here for questions but no presentation. Proposal number five I don't believe anybody's here
okay
and then our next speaker is Amanda Allen proposal number six
Madam Chair and Supervisors, good morning and thank you. My name is Amanda Allen. I'm the Director of the Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History Sea Center on Stearns Wharf presenting our marine-themed interpretive sign project. There are seven signs on Stearns Wharf that are in dire need of replacement. The original signs, they talk about coastal ecosystems, marine life as well as our beautiful Channel Islands that can be seen in the distance off the edge of the Sterns Wharf. These original signs were implemented through CREF funds over 28 years ago.
Next slide please. And as you can see over time they have become very much corroded, stained and faded as well as are in need of some improvement in terms of keeping up to date with current scientific information as well as the new graphics that are available that are much more modern and pleasant looking. Unfortunately, in recent years it's been really hard to ignore this degradation as well as the fact that they've become marred by graffiti and cigarette burns.
Over 1 million people a year stroll Stearns Wharf and have the opportunity to see these signs and I really feel it's a poor representation of the Santa Barbara region and would hate for people to remember us this way. Next slide please. The proposal also included an additional sign to be added on Stearns Wharf next to the C Center facility as well as two signs inside the C Center and some supplies.
Next slide please. Our proposal was not recommended by staff for funding, and if the board moves to an every other year cycle for funding it would mean that another 2 1⁄2 million people or so Could potentially be exposed to these signs before we could apply again for funding. Next slide please. So I would like to propose for your consideration that we do try to scale the project down, to be less expensive and really focus on the most critical elements of the project and I believe those are the seven signs on Sterns Wharf exterior. So if we were to eliminate the proposed sign, sign number A as well as anything inside the C center signs or supplies then I can reduce the budget by 40% making our total requested CREF funding be $26,000. And I would love to answer any questions if you have them.
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Supervisor Adam you'll chime in when you have questions I'm sure.
Yeah thank you for checking in. I'm still holding up here.
No questions yet, thank you so much have a great day.
Okay next speaker we have Greg Gorga proposal number seven
Madam Chair, members of the board thank you for this opportunity. With me is Don Bartholomews. Right here he's our vice president of our board. In April this year we opened up the phase one of our oil in the channel exhibit it featured the geology of oil talking about how oil was formed in our channel The stratosphere underneath our channel, the natural seeps and also we opened the Chumash use of asphaltum.
We've always had the tamal but this exhibit talks about all the different uses that the Chumash made of asphaltum that was naturally bubbling up for thousands of years. It includes a lot of hands-on artifacts We're going to talk a little bit about what we're looking at today. This is an exhibit that you can that kids can touch and feel like shark skin that they used to sandpaper the planks down of the canoe of them all and as they use to shave the wood very colorful obviously very up-to-date exhibit.
Now we were and then obviously honored those who supported it now The industry of oil in Santa Barbara, which was a very big industry. The many different uses of oil that comes out of our channel. Life out on the rigs and of course the 69 oil spill and the dangers of oil spills and its effect on our environment. I want to also read for you, Linda Sterling is a teacher at the Peabody Charter School and one of our board members. And she wants to share with you that as a long time educator in Santa Barbara, I have never seen any curriculum or history of either the historical or geological uses of oil or asphaltum in California. If it were not for the recent publication of curriculum for the 3rd and 5th grades by the Maritime Museum, such curriculum would not exist.
And we did do state standards curriculum for both of those exhibits for the Chumash use of asphaltene for 3rd graders and the geology of oil, 5th graders studied geology at that point. She also goes on to say that the museum's recent exhibition on the subject is a good conversation opener to use as a stepping stone in the classroom, to begin conversations on a much broader topic. To continue with the second phase of the oil exhibit and the Santa Barbara Channel will allow for greater depth of understanding and more outreach into the community And specifically the classroom where so much information is still lacking. And our hope is with the different topics that we'll cover in phase two of this exhibit, that we will develop curriculum as well for those exhibits as well.
Thank you and I'm happy to answer any questions.
Okay. Proposal number eight I believe somebody's in the audience if there are any questions for that but there'll be no presentation my understanding proposal number nine we have Marian Whitman
Thank you. Thank you, Chair Hartman and members of the board for hearing us today. My name is Dr. Marianne Whitman. I'm the executive director of the UCSB Natural Reserve System. I am here with my colleague Director Katja Seltzmann of the UCSB Cheadle Center for Biodiversity and Ecological Restoration and we thank you for your consideration of our proposal today.
In summary, we request $23,753 to curate, transport, digitize Disseminate the information concerning a natural history collection of the Santa Cruz Island which is currently housed at the Santa Cruz Island Reserve. This project satisfies five of eight craft criteria and would take place in the second and third districts of Santa Barbara County but would service a much wider audience as well.
The project has four stages which would conclude in summer 2018 A little bit of background, Santa Cruz Island and the Channel Islands are home to over 2,000 plants and animal species of which 145 are found nowhere else in the world. Not only do the natural history collections allow historical insight into the ecology but also the interaction between the ecology and the human history of the region for groups such as the Chumash and others that have used Santa Cruz Island.
Santa Cruz Island has always been affected by the oil and gas development in the region, and you can see here from visual impacts to the viewscape—this is us looking at Santa Cruz Island from the mainland—to direct impacts from oil releases. This is a picture of an oiled loon on Christie Beach that was taken in 2016. Currently there are six collections at the Santa Cruz Island Reserve, and these include plants and animals. They're in need of permanent physical preservation and digital storage to ensure that future generations can utilize them and learn from them. And why are these important? Well, these collections began at Santa Cruz Island in the 1960s. They provide a long-term record of the environment in the region for a unique and very Californian set of collections.
Many observations during oil spills, for example, occur very directly to larger flora or fauna. But sometimes the effects of a spill and other aspects of oil development occur on longer time scales. And it will be from historical records such as natural history collections specimen data that we will be able to construct a picture of what organisms were present before these events and how they might have changed during these events.
So right here at UCSB, the Cheadle Center is a world-renowned center that specializes in preservation and management of natural history collections. Here are some photos of the specimen imaging facilities and there's a commitment to forever store and preserve these. A number of populations will benefit from this project including the university and college level students that are participating K through 12 students and teachers Receive the information granted from this and visitors and tourists to Santa Barbara County. Thank you, and if there's any questions we'll be happy to answer
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Okay thank you. Proposal number 10 is the Matilda Drive parcel acquisition and the City of Goleta does have a PowerPoint, nobody is here I understand to be presenting it there was illness and then they also are having their council meeting so I think we'll just pass on that one unless do you want to see the PowerPoint? Okay so we'll move on to Barone Ranch proposal number 11 with Mark Wilkinson.
Good morning Chair Hartman and supervisors my name is Mark Wilkinson I'm the executive director for the Santa Barbara County Trails Council. The trails council has been building and maintaining trails in Santa Barbara County since its founding in 1967 this year we are celebrating our organization's 50th anniversary We've been working with County Public Works and County Parks to improve the recreation experience at the Barone Ranch Trail since it was established on the Gaviota Coast seven years ago.
We are now seeking a CREF grant to help fund the Barone Ranch Trail realignment project. The requested funds will be used to fund a portion of a 65-foot long bridge across Rail Kamado Creek. The project would directly benefit walkers, hikers, trail runners Mountain bikers, bird watchers, equestrians and others who enjoy nature-based recreation by allowing access to the western side of the ranch and away from the area designated for agriculture.
In addition to the bridge, the project features a new entry area to the ranch with a turnaround for school buses for field trips, equestrians with trailers and other visitors. Existing gates and fences would be repaired or replaced and former ranch roads would be converted into trails and interpretive panels would be added covering I'm here to talk about five topics. Endangered plants and animals at Barone Ranch, ranching and agricultural history along the Gaviota Coast, Chumash history along the Gaviota Coast, Barone Ranch and Rancho Nuestra Senora del Refugio history, and last, Vaquero equestrian history in Santa Barbara County.
Over the last two years we've assisted county agencies with a range of services including project planning, budgeting and fundraising. So far we have raised over $135,000 from individual donors and the UCSB Coastal Fund. We have a pledge of $10,000 from the Sierra Club Santa Barbara group We are also continuing to pursue a goal of raising $465,000 for the project with an ongoing campaign that includes a fundraiser event being held tomorrow night at the Impact Hub in the Funk Zone.
The event features the winners of our recently completed photography contest that captures the essence of the Gaviota Coast. To sum up Project benefits include enhanced trail user experience helping to keep users on trails, minimize impacts to the adjacent habitats. Safe access to the western side of the ranch moving trail users away from future agricultural operations. Improved safety and ease of use for vehicles with trailers and school buses.
And a new trail system that provides scenic ocean and canyon vistas for all users every day of the week. Currently it's only open three days a week, so I thank you for considering our funding requests and be glad to answer any questions.
Well done on getting all those donations.
Next we have Mauricio Gomez speaking for both proposals 12 and 14.
Good morning Chair Hartman, members of the Board of Supervisors. Thank you for the opportunity to present to you two proposals that we've submitted and will I be allowed a little more than three minutes for both of them?
Yeah you can have six minutes, two proposals.
Thank you very much. So the first proposal of the two is the Davy Brown and Munch Creek fish passage restoration project and the second one will be the Gaviota Creek fish passage engineering project. Going with the first one it's located in the 5th Supervisorial District, the watershed has been rated as a core 1 watershed by NOAA fisheries in this federal steelhead recovery plan which was released in 2012 that's been a guiding document that's been used by a lot of members The nonprofit community as well as state and federal agencies to try and recover the federally endangered steelhead trout. It's a partnership comprised of the Los Padres National Forest, the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation, the California Department of Fish and Wildlife, and NOAA Fisheries.
And as a visual reference, I'm showing this map with these two little pinpoints showing the location of the three barriers. And then I'm also showing the perimeter of the Zaka fire. This is an important thing to highlight as part of this project as a result of the fact that these projects are located just outside of the fire scar area and as a result of that, the habitat that's made available by removing of these barriers is extremely important in such The habitat up in these areas has been affected by the fire and sedimentation coming down the watershed, decreasing spawning grounds in these upper areas of the watershed. So as fish are migrating up the watershed they will be looking to this area for some suitable habitat.
The project has modified slightly from the original proposal that was presented to you and I'm happy to say that as a result of the recommendations that have been presented by staff for awarding this project, I've presented that information back to the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation. And they've agreed to then fund the project to take it to 100% design.
Which will then allow us to have the project completed for its design work by February of 2018 and our goal is to then go For construction of this of these removal of these barriers and have that completed by this by the summer of 2018 as well So we're very excited that with the addition of the CREF funds and the NIFWF funds that have been recommended for funding, that if everything goes well knock on wood.
We'll be able to go to construction and have these barriers removed in a relatively short time frame by next year. The removal of these barriers will then allow for about a little over three miles of habitat to be opened up in this area of the watershed. Some photographs of the sites. This is the Munch Creek Barrier. This is located right at the Davie Brown Campground.
If you guys know the area, you drive on a road called Sunset Valley Road. This is Sunset Valley Road as you're traveling from the Davie Brown Campground area down to the Naira Campground area and this is one of the crossings looking up the creek. And the next photograph is the lowermost barrier closer to the Naira campground and again this one and the one before would be removed.
Would you hold on second, Supervisor Lavanino has a question. I can stop
this clock too but so what is the proposal then? To do what with the barrier and how would you By looking at the picture it helps me a little bit more than
my presentation. Sure, thank you for the question Supervisor Lavagnino. So if I go back to the Munch Creek site, the proposal on this site is to remove all of this concrete from the stream channel and naturalize the stream bed and make it a natural stream channel so that fish as they're migrating and swimming up the creek will be able to reach habitat up the canyon. But isn't that concrete? Is that a road or not a road? It's an old road that no longer used and hasn't been used in decades by the Forest Service.
The next one is the main road that is being used, and this road is then being proposed to be removed and a clear span bridge will be installed. And that's what the proposal is here to develop the engineering designs in order for us to then figure out what the characteristics of this bridge need to be, the height, the span, etc., in order to allow all the visitors to still use this heavily-used campground but then allow for the fish to migrate up and down the canyon. And the same goes for this lower area. This is the only access road that's used by the public to get to these sites, and it's what's blocking migration to the trout in this area.
And then again, the partnership highlighting – a partnership with non-profit organizations as well as the state and federal government. I'm happy to take any questions on that or if I should continue onto the Gaviota Creek project?
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I don't see any lights so go on to the next one. Great
thank you chair, the second proposal is the Gabriela Creek fish passage engineering project and it's located within this third supervisorial district. This watershed has been rated as a core two watershed by the NOAA fisheries steel recovery plan. It's a partnership again with multi-agencies and partners in community members including the Caltrans California State Parks Coastal Ranches Conservancy Santa Barbara Foundation the Bauer foundation Patagonia.
And may I interrupt here when you say partnerships what level of commitment or what does that mean?
Thank you for the question chair. The partnership in this case with Caltrans and California State Parks has allowed us to receive letters of support from each of those agencies that show that they are supportive of the removal of barriers that are in this creek which I will show pictures up in a minute They understand the complexity associated with the removing or modifying of these structures associated with the fact that they are adjacent to the 101 freeway. And they're willing to stand with us and work with us in order to figure out an engineering solution that will allow for fish passage to occur through this area, as well as still provide the structural integrity of the highway.
So you've got Caltrans on board?
We've got Caltrans on board.
That's a big deal
and I think we're in the driver's seat but we'll see how that plays itself out in the future maybe the carpool lane so watershed map here Highway 101 going up this way this is a beautiful part of the county I just saw on The Independent yes last night when I was reading that this has just been added to the scenic corridor of the Gabriela Coast which I was very impressed it to see that And the project, the barriers that we're going to be addressing are located within this rectangle. And it's to develop conceptual designs at this stage for this project as opposed to the 100% designs for the other projects. Again, it's a little bit more of a complicated project as a result of the highway being there and so we want to move forward very carefully and make sure we have support from all the different partners in the project.
You know, Gaviota Creek over the years has been a focus of many studies and plans. And our effort is to build off of some of this work that our community partners and state federal agencies have been interested in doing and really trying to get some of those plans off the shelf, so to speak, and get some work done. So we're excited that this will allow us to do this project if we receive funding for this project. A couple photographs, this is looking up the canyon at one of the barriers to migration.
The next photograph shows it from the side. We would propose to either modify these structures or remove them in their entirety in order to allow for fish passage to occur. And again the partnership, the partners that I mentioned earlier. And I will end the presentation with a photograph of an adult steelhead female trout that was seen in the Murray-Ignacio Creek watershed earlier this year. She was about a 24 to 26 inch female and if you look closely there's a little male next to her that ended up getting lucky and they tried spawning well pardon me.
Let me rephrase that. There was, there happened to be a pool that they both ended up cohabitating and they were lucky to find each other. And maybe I'll leave it at that. That's a good
place to stop. Happy to answer any questions. I don't see any questions lights up here? Thank you.
Thank you. Our last presenter is Chris Slaughter for proposal number 13.
Madam Chair and members of the Board of Supervisors, thank you for having me here today. I also want to thank Kathy Pfeiffer and the County of Santa Barbara Planning and Development Department for their considerable time and experience and expertise on evaluating a grant proposal. We're honored to be here. Now celebrating our 21st year as the only children's museum in Santa Barbara County, the Santa Maria Valley Discovery Museum now welcomes over 31,000 people through our doors every year.
These doors right here. Our most served age group is 2 to 12 with a growing age demographic thanks to five new exhibits last year and our 13,000 square foot facility. Although the Discovery Museum does not receive any operational funding from the city, county, state or federal government. The exhibit and programming support we received through CREF last year's APCD education funding and other critical funders and foundations make it possible for us to serve our growing community with a level of educational excellence That is preparing our children for a 21st century world.
With these improvements we are increasing our earned income and we are growing our operating budget from $330,000 to $375,000 for the next fiscal year. This remains a very frugal and underfunded facility budget with a gap that remains of ten to fifteen thousand dollars a month between our admissions income and what it costs to operate our facility and we supplement that gap with The original plan for the Discovery Museum included a second gate area.
Over here, this one already exists. This is an old conceptual plan but just to give you an idea of what the gate was supposed to look like. We were not able to fund that at the time. It's where we have big roll-up doors there and it's located in a place where we can create outdoor programming space for sand and water kind of messy educational play and to increase our footprint Our grant proposal requested 75,000 to develop and construct an enclosed outdoor learning space where children and their families can engage in hands-on sensory programming that teaches them about the importance of conserving our coastal resources.
Zone 1 is a discovery pier. I'm going to kind of zip through this part. Zone 2 is our Discovery Cove where children can learn about our coast through water and sand sensory exploration with a play table divided into four different segments in tied zones. Zone three will have an aerial snapshot or map of the Central Coast shoreline. And zone four, which is where the roll-up door goes, we will pull a previously funded CREF grant into that space.
I'm out of time so if you have any questions, I know that you're recommending to fund $25,000 for these exhibits and we are grateful for that opportunity.
Thank you. So bringing it back to the board are there any comments or questions? Oh I'm sorry we did have a general public comment.
Chair Harmon, members of the Board we're going to hear from Arturo Teo.
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Good afternoon. My name is Arturo Tello, and I'm here just to jump in ahead of time and saying thank you for supporting the crowdfunding for the Carpinteria Bluffs III. I feel sorry for Supervisor Adam that's alone there in Santa Maria but not so sorry because he's in good company. He's next to a masterpiece from my friend Ray Strong. That mural of the Black Mountain is called Indian Summer.
In the Arts Commission under Supervisor Schwartz and I helped to get that commission which at the time was $8,000 investment. And now it's worth over a hundred thousand dollars, I'm sure. Anyway your investment in the Carpinteria Bluffs today is one of the most wonderful things you can do for generations to come. Really it's not just about the people there in Carpinteria. There are thousands and thousands of people who visit Carpinteria through our state park, I mean millions come there and will enjoy have access to this trails and beautiful vistas. And you know as a person who uses that a lot I just wanted to come and thank you and there would be other I would like to thank the Board of Supervisors for inviting me.
Anyway earlier today I was seeing Joni Mitchell and she was saying we are stardust. We're golden. We got to get ourselves back to the garden you know what you're doing in supporting this type of acquisition is fabulous and I would just want to thank you very grateful. Thank you. That's all the time.
Thank you for taking time to come and say that So does that close our public comment Mr.
Allen?
I had a question before we went to the supervisors, I'm looking for a list of the criteria for CREF grant it said it would be on page three of our staff report but I see them in each project but I just wanted to have them front and center and also to ask if there were any priorities among them
Chair Hartman, members of the board you are asking if there are priorities among the eight
criteria? I'm asking first for a list of the criteria and where is that in our package. So it's
on page three of attachment B 2017 staff report. And it's at the. It says evaluation process and it looks like it's about the third paragraph under evaluation process. Do you see that?
Chair Hartman?
Yes.
We've advised the board on this issue before and the genesis of these funds comes from four oil and gas projects that have a permit condition requiring contributions to CREF, and our advice in the past is that mitigation has to be designed for the enhancement of coastal recreation aesthetics tourism and or environmental sensitive resources And also you should have some sort of nexus between the impacts of these projects and the mitigation required or where the money is spent to get the mitigation. But beyond that our advice to the board is that you have a broad discretion on how you determine which projects are best project in any given cycle.
Thank you that helps, that kind of frames the discussion. Supervisor Wolf and then Supervisor Williams and Supervisor Adam you just chime in okay?
I'm paying attention.
Thank you Madam Chair. Every time every year we go through this or whenever we go through it which I think is every year, it's difficult except I think there were a couple of years when we used the CREF funds to go just toward county programs and And then what makes this year even more difficult is we don't have a lot of money, but in some ways that's like the tobacco tax. When the money goes down that means probably less people are smoking and when you have less craft funds there's a nexus between oil production.
But anyway I think that our staff has done a good job in pulling together recommendations. I've looked at the criteria and I think it is interesting and I am glad that you said Mr. Dillon that we have some degree or a lot of discretion actually because there were some items that staff recommended that met five out of the eight criteria And there were others that received up to 6.5 points out of the eight criteria and then there were others who received greater points but weren't allocated funds so I think that is one piece of what we look at And for me, I also look at the historical piece. How much money has been given to different organizations over time?
So this almost feels like the budget hearing because there's never when I see a chart like that I kind of have this negative reaction because I hate That allocation piece but it is our responsibility to do and when we did it during budget it worked out fine. It's just a hard exercise to go through I think that You know we have two items in here number four and which is that the Santa Claus Lane Street engineering and the Arroyo Borough sewer lift station.
Those are both county projects and For whatever reason the Santa Claus Lane street engineering received $25,000. The Royal Borough did not receive anything and I would make the case that the Santa Claus Lane Street Engineering not received funding this year. If you look in the board item they have received CREF funds before and CIAP funds and general So at a time when I feel that I could legitimately reallocate those funds, that's what I would like to suggest.
So let me just first start off, well not start off because I've been blabbing right? I just want to say on the acquisition pieces, I absolutely agree with those. That's the Carpinteria Bluffs and Matilda Drive acquisition. I also agree with number one, the Marine Mammal Public Awareness and the Barone Ranch Trail realignment the number 13 the marine themed that's the Santa Maria Discovery Museum and the Davie Brown Creek fish passage.
And let me just say just as a side on the Santa Maria Discovery Museum. I want to thank you for sticking with what you do and coming back to this board and I have to really apologize because when I first got on this board, I remember Supervisor Centeno and I had a back-and-forth about allocating money to the museum because I felt at the time that everything should Absolutely related to the coast and I thought Santa Maria is not on the coast. Why should they get any money?
Obviously, I've changed my mind because I would actually even think of giving you guys more money because you've done such a good job in the importance of educating kids who don't get or may not have That access to the beach and our ocean environment. I think you have done an incredible job so I just want to say thank you for what you are doing and I fully support that allocation.
This is one of the hard parts because aside from the 25,000 that I think we should take out of the Santa Claus Lane street engineering. I also feel that number seven, the history of oil exhibit. That that should also be removed from the list and I know that the Maritime Museum is probably not happy with me right now but I just want you to know that I have supported the last two if not three projects that have gone to the Maritime Museum and my statement is in no way to undercut the incredible work that you do.
The museum is fantastic, and the letter that was read by the teacher I think summarizes so well what you're doing. But what I would like to do and where I think that we should spend and allocate money is to $26,000 to the Santa Barbara Natural History Museum because they have not received CRAF funding since the 90's as was stated. And they've lowered their allocation from the 43 to the 26. So it's kind of like taking from Peter to pay Paul I mean it's just or splitting the baby and that's like nothing is as good but but I do think that Peter objects okay thank you Peter
Just to pay Paul.
You'll be next,
okay.
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Actually when it gets over I'll second the motion
Really? Do you want me to make the motion Peter? Okay and then so then I thought that given what we heard from Channel Keeper, that $10,000 of my remaining 36 because I have $36,000. 26 going to Santa Barbara Natural History Museum and $10 thousand going to Channel Keeper For their, and it doesn't include cost for staff. It's programmatic and more capital. So there's my changes basically.
So if I could just recap it's taking money from number 4 and number 7 and allocating $10,000 to number 2 and $26,000 to number 6
25 and 15 is what 40. And I think you only allocated 36.
Oh yeah, there's $4000 left because I was actually thinking of the, we'll let you guys spend that. Aren't I generous? $4000. You never get to do that. I was thinking of the UCSB whatever but I took care of those two that I think are really important. Thank you Madam
Chair. Ms. Pfeiffer are you able to track this? We had it on the screen when we did the budget and So I'm just, I think we'll deliberate and then we will come back and try to persuade each other a bit but
yes. We can do it two ways Chair Hartman and members of the board. I can play around with the Excel sheet while you are doing it or we can just kind of take notes and see how you guys all agree on it.
Let's I think these are deliberations and to some extent we like to think we're open-minded and can persuade each other so let's go through and have each person say what they think. And I think I'll go next. I, this is my first time through these deliberations on the CREF grant and all of the projects tug at my heart. They are all very thoughtful and much create a tremendous public benefit When I think about these however, I bring criteria. First of all the acquisitions those are usually a major opportunity and you jump on them so I do support the acquisitions that you've proposed.
Next is for me on the ground restoration is extremely important and it provides ongoing benefits if it's done now Then access is very important and then for me education and interpretation is unfortunately not as high as acquisition and restoration. I think if we can use these funds to mitigate on the ground that is more in keeping with the intent. So for me one project that stands out that wasn't funded is the Gaviota Creek fish passage project.
I have a long personal history in wetlands, rivers restoration from San Diego up to Santa Barbara I remember back to the conception coast project which was a very, about 20 some years ago. Which identified all of the barriers to steelhead passage throughout the coastal streams in Santa Barbara County. It was held up as a model project take 50-100 years to implement but that's really been the template that has guided the efforts. And what you find out is yeah, you'd like to take it, take out a project lower on the stream and then up but you don't always have those opportunities. So to some extent you have priorities but then you also have to be opportunistic and take barriers out where you can. In this particular case I think it's a tremendous project and anybody who has Caltrans support to do something on the 101 is to me we really need to recognize the significance of that And I'd just like to remind people about the steelhead.
I know there's a lot of discussion about it and I'll probably be in Andy Caldwell's column tomorrow, but the steelhead migrates several thousand miles up to the Bering Strait. They come from headwaters down through the coastal streams and then out they get big wait for three years And then we don't really know how they get back, whether it's navigation with the stars, whether it's smell. But they come back and they bring the resources from the ocean that used to come in such numbers that was completing this cycle bringing those resources back up to the headwaters. So they're amazing creatures and they are endangered. And this project has an opportunity to help restore habitat for an endangered species that, to me is a magical species. The southern steelhead in particular don't go every year.
They've adapted to the drought conditions of Southern California. So they can wait upstream and they can wait downstream until the conditions are right. So they're highly adaptable, they're amazing species, they're endangered and to me this project should absolutely be funded. And if it had to take funds from some of the interpretive those are my priorities.
Supervisor Williams?
Question first to staff. The amount that we set aside for the Point Aguayo anticipated settlement, that is entirely discretionary on our part because we're just expecting that the Coastal Conservancy is at some point going to ask us for money.
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Madam Chair, Supervisor Williams yes that's accurate. We're projecting anywhere from 125,000 to I think we said 250,000 just according to how aggressively we want to set that aside and the aggression of the set-aside so to speak is what will gauge based on what we are hearing back on the progress of the court case. So the longer that takes the more we'll have in the pot, and the less will need to set aside over time.
From his look I think the County Council wants to tell me something.
Thank you chair and supervisors our recommendation we worked with planning development on this recommendation of the set aside and think that that would be appropriate to keep the set-aside given the condition on the operating permit. So our recommendation would be to actually observe that set-aside.
To do a set-aside but yes, the amount the set-aside is discretionary?
Yes Essentially if you don't set aside a million dollars now you will be in the future year having to do so. The permit condition itself states a million dollars that's why the staff recommendation is set up that way.
CEO Miyasato? Supervisors we have the auditor here too as well because they had been involved in discussions about this so should you have any questions about that they're here as well.
I'm just suggesting that we do continue with the set aside but that we there's nothing gospel about the amount of the set-aside in this year. This is a land use battle that's been going on since 1985 and the earliest possible Resolution according to the staff report is 2021 right and so I just you know though I think it's important to set aside some. The idea of squirreling away this money that's meant for coastal mitigation as opposed to using it for coastal mitigation on important priorities right now.
So I guess I would just advocate for a smaller set aside for this year so that we don't have Because I do agree with Jones hierarchy that restoration is of that acquisition and restoration Educational priorities as well even if it is at a lower level. I also want to react to the proposal taking out the Santa Claus Lane streetscape. The reason why that has been funded in the past this is like hits All you know so many of the criteria there this is a.
Coastal access that is used probably more than any other local informal cooks coastal access in that in that part of the coast and it's a very dangerous one because its people using multiple access points to go over our railroad crossing And I just think that it to defund that completely instead of give them. This symbolic amount to keep this work going would be not The staff recommendation on funding priorities, but add to that $40,000 from the set aside to fund the Gaviota Creek project. The marine signage and channel keeper lessons of the oil spill in some ratio meaning we could give 20,000 to the Gaviota Creek and the balance split between those other programs.
Ms. Black, did you have something you wanted to add?
Madam chair, I just wanted to comment on our rationale for the set-aside and we did work pretty Diligently on this with both County Council and with the auditor's office And the concern is that we have the million dollars when? The Coastal Commission or the coastal Conservancy requests it. And so I'm a bit concerned about starting year one Setting aside less than 125,000 because I think we'll know more as time goes on when we may be able to make that adjustment later on but I'm concerned.
That we. Be prudent about setting aside funds so that we don't find ourselves with a request for a million dollars and we don't have a million dollars to provide. So
Mr. Polanyi
Chair Hartman members of the board In with the supervisor Williams a point about making or spending on current projects that you feel are more important to set aside. I'd submit that the million dollars was provided it originally and that those kinds of decisions you're talking about now have been made along the way and that's why the set-aside needs to happen now is basically to replenish that million dollar so that it does meet the permit conditions and I guess I would look to County Council to potentially confirm that
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Chair Hartman and Supervisors, we concur with the way the auditor summarized that this is money that you're basically building back up to an expected or potential expenditure. It would be our recommendation to actually observe the million, building towards the million dollars.
Supervisor Williams? And is it the same ratio that you're proposing to fund it in every year?
Madam Chair and Supervisor Williams, it actually goes up a slight amount in subsequent years so that we can achieve in 2021 setting aside the million dollars. So it goes up about $30,000 but we will be reassessing and increasing the amount of CREF that we gather. And this is also one of the reasons that we're recommending we go on every other year cycle so there's a bit more money to allocate when we do allocations.
And I do agree with the every other year but colleagues, I just think that. The opportunity cost is greater of what we set aside now than what we set aside later. What we set aside now won't be spent until 2022 or Longer depending on how competent we think Hollister Ranch's attorneys are. I think they're very competent attorneys and they're going to fight this you know probably for the rest most of the rest of my lifetime.
And and I just think that it I would rather go on a more I want to start by saying that we have a very progressive structure where we set aside more later because of the lost value is greater now meaning. The last value of what You know argue that the difference between us setting aside some versus a little bit less is not a terrible sin and maybe not as terrible of a sin I'm not funding as many of these projects.
Supervisor Lavanino. Thank you Madam Chair. After Supervisor Lavanino, Supervisor Adam.
This is a permit condition correct? I mean we're the ones we make the rules for everybody else and we expect them to live by him. This was a permit condition. We need to adhere to this it that strategy sounds a lot like the old Popeye I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for hamburger today, you know, I mean who's to say four or five and we sound like 2021 or 2022 is in the distant future.
I don't even see how we're going to get to a million dollars by We're only doing this every 2 years we've got 2 more cycles. And maybe it's 125 every year. You know that math works out but I hope that's not somebody calling us and telling us what we need to do here, but we I don't see oil production you know going up in a huge influx of craft money becoming available for us. I think it's probably can continue to stay stagnant or slide so we have to do the right thing we were You know we've spent this money already on other worthy projects and there's always a list. I'm surprised the list is this short because all of these are worthy projects but I am just going to go with the staff recommendation. I know why people have made other changes.
I don't know if anybody can convince anybody to move any of the money around but I know that there was a lot of time and energy put into this, and I'm okay the way it is. But I really want to advocate against putting off something that we've committed to already. This wasn't something worth thinking about committing to in 2021. This is something we already committed to and we need to be where we said we'd be.
Supervisor Adam and then Wolf.
So clarification Mr. Gazzone, this million dollars was actually set aside at one time and then we robbed it?
Chair and Supervisor I think Planning can address the spend down of this balance but what we've said is that it's a permit condition and at some point it's a potential expenditure and that's the concern shared by Auditor and County Council.
Madam Chair and Supervisors, believe it or not I think this occurred before I even was involved with CREF. So having said that it's my understanding that we collected these funds we never set them aside we immediately allocated them to projects
Okay so this is the exact same strategy that we employ with our maintenance. And we just use it on something else and then that's how you wind up with $258 million of roads alone and then there's a whole bunch of other stuff. You know, you're just lucky you got a stop loss on this one of a million. And you know, you're going to have to come up with it sometime or another and if you don't do it now or you don't put a meaningful step in now, it's just going to be more difficult as time goes on since we know we're looking right into the jaws of more deficits in the future so in the event that they do get that and I agree It's probable that they'll be fighting about this beyond the time duration we're concerned with here, but it's right around the corner and if something did happen and there was a demand for $1 million you would have a very difficult time coming up with it.
So I suggest we do the responsible thing here and fund this thing at the level that we're asking to be funded
CEO Miyasato. Supervisors to the chair I just conferred with planning about how much money is actually appropriated next year's budget and I believe they only appropriated amount for that they've been discussing today so an additional 40,000 would have to be appropriated through a budget revision request which takes four votes.
Mr. Dillon did you have anything else you wanted to add?
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Madam Chair I've been working on CREF for a long time and the rationale for not setting aside the money earlier was that it would just sit there for 10 or 20 years because there was no access program feasible at that time at Hollister Ranch. So it made no sense to park money in a trust account for this condition when the staff is confident they could toward the end of the CREFF life, you know then put money aside to meet the permit condition.
And Mr. Cozzoni?
And then what changed was circa 2013 the litigation we've been talking about with the Hollister Ranch access litigation ongoing was a change over the past 15 or so years. That's the change that the board is reacting to now.
I believe we've heard two people talk about this issue and express their position, Supervisor Wolf?
Thank you Madam Chair. So I agree with, I don't believe that we should touch that fund. I think that would be, I don't like the word irresponsible but I think it's the prudent thing to do. I think what we should be dealing with is the allocation of money that's before us and unfortunately like we always do, we have to make tough decisions with the amount of money that we have and we cannot fund everything.
So I'm just going to go back to a couple of things that I heard. I heard Supervisor Williams talk about Santa Claus Lane as having a high criteria for beach access. The criteria for Santa Claus Lane is actually 5 points out of 8. And the Arroyo Borough lift station is actually six points out of eight. So in theory, it meets more criteria but it's not listed and I'm not making a push for the Arroyo Borough sewer lift station but I certainly could because while you talk about access, I talk about water safety of our beaches This is something that I've talked to Parks about quite a bit and I also believe that this money is in our capital improvement plan. But obviously if we could get the money out of CREF, that would be preferable. So if we're going to go with Santa Claus Lane Street Engineering then we should go with the Arroyo Borough Sewer Lift Station.
Those are two high priority county programs. Now if you are willing I think I heard from Supervisor Lavagnino that he would just go ahead with everything as it's laid out. I can't do that just for the reason I just expressed and also because I really do believe that the Natural History Museum has not come to us since the 90s and they're asking for $25,000-$26,000 which could easily be given to them out of the Santa Claus Lane street engineering program.
I think that's an easy movement of funds I understand the importance of the Gaviota Creek fish passage. It's not a lot of money but you know we are funding the Davie Brown Creek fish passage and again I think decisions have to be made where, you know where do we, we can't fund everything. So my priority is to give and provide, I don't know how many of you have been out to the wharf and have seen those interpretive signs.
And they are in disrepair. We funded them a long time ago and it's been decades since they've been refurbished. It's for the public good. It has a definite coastal nexus it meets 5.5 of the eight criteria so I'm making my change request a little simpler than it was before and. I hope I hope we can get support for that it's just basically eliminating the Santa Claus Lane Street engineering and moving it to the marine themed interpretive signs for the Natural History Museum and leaving everything else the same.
And if we can't do that, I would say then let's just fund the two county programs that are listed. Because that seems to be the most fair expenditure of money.
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Madam Chair?
Yes, Supervisor Adam.
May I second that motion?
Yes I'm not sure. I'm not sure I clearly understand that as a motion yet and I think I'll make it let me be clear then
I'll make a motion that we approve staff's CREF recommendations and we change the end we reallocate number four to number six
So we have a motion and a second. Supervisor Williams you've been waiting and then supervisor Levinino.
Well I don't support that motion not because I don't think we should be spending some money on the marine interpretive signs, I definitely think we should in fact I made A site visit of about a third to a half of these with Yash, you know checking out the Davie Brown. This last weekend I checked out the Davie Brown fish passage site way the heck up there and all these and I think they're very worthwhile My principal concern, well my two concerns would be obviously Santa Claus Lane and also I think Supervisor Hartman is right that this Gaviota Creek fish passage is an important priority.
And so I guess I would I would put a proposal if people want to stick to our dollar amount which I think is is the We're going to take Santa Claus Lane and history of oil. And that's 40,000 and instead of splitting it 2 ways as the staff recommendation is to split 4 ways with the Gaviota Creek passage. Marine signs Santa Claus Lane and the history of oil each getting 10 grand which isn't much but we don't have
Can we call the question?
We're still discussing the first motion and Supervisor Lavanino is next.
So just so I'm clear more on the Santa Claus Lane Street engineering because I had just when I went through this I just assumed that was going to go with the staff recommendation But now it doesn't seem like there's a desire to do that so I've got to learn more about the Santa Claus Lane Street engineering. Isn't that a multimillion dollar project? In my mind this has been going on since I've been on the board and
Supervisor Lafagnino, we have Matt Daubertine here to speak but yes it's a lot of money.
Right. So yeah Matt if you can just talk to that
point. Good afternoon Madam Chair, Supervisor Lafagnino. Current estimated cost is five million dollars to build project.
Okay thank you all right so that okay. All right. But what I'm saying is $25,000 is a little different than we could probably.
Mr. Dalbert you don't leave yet. Could you explain how significant this funding is as a match to the project?
And as the staff report points out it has been the recipients of previous CREF allocations. What we're trying to do is advance the project from 65% to final construction drawings. The estimated cost to do that is about another $200,000-$300,000 And so if we can kind of chip away at it over the next two to three years, we would queue up the design of the project, complete that phase and then have it be ready as a mitigation project to the Highway 101 HOV widening project that occurs immediately adjacent to Santa Claus Lane.
Okay. That changes that then. Yeah. It's things like an onion. I never thought we'd have this much trouble getting rid of $121,000. Come on. We just did a billion. All right well keep talking. I
do think that the point is that we've given that project so much money, I think as Supervisor Lavagnino points out we hear about Santa Claus Lane a lot and there's a lot of allocation of funds and this being a time when our CREF money is lower Then maybe this is also the time that we look to fund a larger. I mean this is a very small piece of a huge project when we can be making a significant difference in really what and we're just talking about craft and so thank you.
If I could make just one other final comment. Of course. So, I think what we were trying to do is again in following with the sort of successful path that the Rincon Trail has taken is where a combination of funds are used to complete the design of the project then the project is queued up and eligible for much larger funding pots such as the statewide active transportation program.
Rincon finished its design and was then eligible to receive $7.5 million in construction funding, so we're sort of feeling that following that path if we can just get the design done then we can chase much larger dollars from outside funding sources that they can then fund the actual construction You position yourself a lot stronger with those grant programs if you can point to the completed design.
Thank you.
Madam Chair, I would like someone from parks maybe Brian can speak to the sewer lift station if we're going to talk about incremental increases for county projects. Mr. Yunez?
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Madam Chair, Board of Supervisors, Arroyo Lift Station has been in process for some time. We're at about 70% conceptual design of the lift station. Approximate construction costs are $220,000. The lift station serves the restrooms and the restaurant there. It has been in need of rehab. We've had some issues on some small spills there. There's no notification system, so the notification system is basically someone seeing it overflow.
So it's in need of some high-tech SCADA Equipment for that system that any overflow will notify staff and we can promptly get to that lift station. So at this time again, we are in design of that lift station and it does serve the restrooms there. That heavily used facility at the beach and the restaurant.
Supervisor Wolf. Thank you and thank you Brian for being here so it seems that it's very similar in some ways and that it moves toward the design of one of our capital needs.
Yes we like to complete design and move forward to constructing that new putting in a new lift station there.
Thank you. Supervisor Wolf? Supervisor Williams.
Well I do think that moving the Santa Claus Lane project forward at least to be able to get there in time for the 101 project funding is pretty important. It's kind of like A boat a big boats gonna come by and if we're not there for the big boat. We're going to we're going to lose the opportunity so I'm not saying that I need every penny I'm just saying that putting aside at least a little bit to it I think is pretty imperative to just move the project forward and and it is part of I think something up. That's a big priority for this board.
I
think I might have it OK. All right. So I think we all agree from what I've been hearing history of oil exhibit is pretty much on the chopping block.
Yes
so if we could agree we would move that 15,000 into the marine themed interpretive signs. Okay now takes our need down to $11,000 there how about if we take you know 11 out of Santa Claus Lane keeps you with 14,000 interpretive signs gets done you lose a little bit in Santa Claus And the only thing we're missing out on then is the Gaviota Creek fish passage, unfortunately.
But my fish are very important in my area. You talked about them. Can you
repeat that one more time?
So if we just took the 15,000 from the history of oil put that to marine themed interpretive signs Right. And then take 11 because you said they only need 26 is that correct? Okay so you got 15 from history of oil, you take 11 from Santa Claus leave Santa Claus with 14 I think we've spent more than $120,000 over the last hour of staff time there is.
I'm fine with that.
Well we procedurally, I need some help we have a motion and a second do we have to actually vote that yea or nay and then take a second motion?
Chair you have a lot of discretion in this area but it might be clearest if Supervisor Wolf would withdraw her motion. I will
withdraw my motion and Supervisor Williams?
I just want to hear from you because my only objection with that would be that the Gaviota Creek passage doesn't. You end up being in the mix. I just want to hear from Chair
Hartman before I vote. I wouldn't be voting for it again my priorities are acquisition restoration. I have been persuaded though that a Royal Borough sewage lift station is in effect kind of a restoration project then an access project and interpretation would be the last on my list. I'd rather have as someone mentioned I'd rather have the fish than a sign of a fish Supervisor
Lavanino. I was going to let Supervisor Lavanino make the motion.
Well since I have for the first time ever in my district two craft possibilities here, I will make the motion that we accept staff recommendations for the 2017 craft funding cycle We do the other staff recommendations as far as which includes.
Can I make a request on phrasing if you would split the acquisition from the other stuff so at least Chair Hartman doesn't have to vote against the acquisition money.
OK thank you.
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All right. So let's go with recommended actions A C, I don't know where's table 10. If you can help Mr. Gazzone I'm trying to figure out here all these, we've got A through E.
Chair and Supervisor Leveny now, I think what you're doing is moving all of staff's recommendations but you're going to split this into two motions the first move all of staff's recommendations as to the acquisition maybe as a first vote and then move all of staffs recommendations as to the other column as shown with
modifications. Don't we also need to change our Our funding cycle
we're doing. Yeah, we have.
That's part of staffs recommendations. All right so I'll make a motion that we make all staff recommendations we move all staff recommendation no I'm sorry that we move the staff recommendation that we fund the Carpinteria Bluffs acquisition and also the Matilda Drive acquisition
So I think just for clarity so that we're not left with an action, with no action left remaining. I think you're moving staff's recommendations and the first vote is only as to the acquisition.
Both acquisitions? Yes. Okay. I'll second
that. And we have to call the vote.
Ms. Wolfe? Aye. Mr. Adams?
Aye
Mr. Levinino, Mr. Williams, Ms. Hartman. An enthusiastic aye. Okay. This is 5-0.
All right then I'll make the second motion will be to move staff recommendations with the caveat that we are moving we're not recommending a history of oil exhibit And we are reducing the Santa Claus Lane Street engineering to 14000 and we are funding the marine themed interpretive science to the tune of 26000. And the other recommendations are as called out in the staff recommendation.
I'll second that.
OK so this includes everything else?
Yes. So this is the Marine Mammal Public Awareness The Barone Ranch Trail realignment, the marine-themed exhibits, the Discovery Museum and the Davy Brown Creek Fish Passage.
And what about E? Madam? Mr. Ghisoni and then Supervisor Adams.
So Chairman and Supervisors I think that this the first motion having dealt with staff's recommendations and acquisition. The second is staffs recommendations and general allocation. And the only tension I'm hearing is that the current display on the board showing twenty five thousand dollars for marine themed exhibits and I think Supervisor Levenino said twenty six thousand. It says 26.
OK thank you.
Got it. We're good. Adopt that. It's my motion.
Supervisor Adam did you have something?
Yeah, I just didn't know when the Arroyo Burro lift station fell off the wagon here. I thought we had that on the list. I shudder to think what the headlines will be tomorrow. You know, I'm thinking something like supervisors favor sewer spills into the ocean. Or something like that if we don't start that because you just got put on notice That you've actually had spills already
Unless it includes
a pretty good amount in there for
So it was never in the recommended staff recommendation. And I never heard one person outside of Supervisor Wolf at one point said the only reason why she was bringing
it
up.
I think that there is funding available. I'm going to go ahead and open it up for questions.
The spills that have occurred have been contained inside that unit because there's a containment at that sewer lift station. But the age of that infrastructure is very old, it's a lot of maintenance for staff. We have to continue to make sure that it's not overflowing and everything's functioning properly so again we are moving forward. Again we're about 70% with design and look forward to completing that project due to those issues that it has with staffing and maintenance.
Madam Chair, can I ask Mr. Yanez a question?
Of course.
Yeah, Mr. Yanez you stated before that somebody has to notice it and call in and let you know that you're having a spill. How exactly does that occur when it's contained?
It's it's visible to the restaurant usually we get notified by the restaurant operators and and
that's pretty sweet to be in the restaurant. Notice that
there is a wash station just adjacent to the lift station so it's a pretty confined space in that area.
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Okay all right well I'm not gonna be supporting it if we're not funding that in some good degree
Okay Supervisor Williams did you have something you wanted to add?
Yeah I just wanted to make sure that people. You know, because there were headlines of Arroyo Borough having bacteria pollution in the past. I want to make sure that people know the city while I was on the City Council has spent millions of dollars figuring out where that bacteria pollution comes from and how to avoid the majority of it. It predominantly was coming upstream, not from the county. It wasn't the county's fault and through a series of restoration projects including daylighting, a massive stretch of underground pipe where the bacteria were sort of incubating, the city's Through the measure be program so everybody's to keep paying for this.
Successfully restored this and it has not been on. The coast keeper list that he'll debate list for in you know beaches that have poor water quality since though that restoration work was done so I just Want to make sure people know this is a problem mostly solved not completely. But and it wasn't to the knowledge of the city staff and the consultants and the DNA source tracking we did not like the problem of that county.
OK. Supervisor Adam.
Can I call for the question?
Yes but I'd like you to repeat Supervisor Lavanino one more time.
It's this board motion chart that's up here on the wall so it's Marine Mammal Public Awareness Santa Claus Lane Street engineering at 14000 marine themed interpretive signs 26 Barone Ranch Trail realignment 20 marine themed exhibits for the Discovery Museum at 25 and the Davie Brown for 1918.
And there is a second? I second. And any more discussion? All right, I guess we'll call the vote.
Ms. Wolfe? Aye Mr. Adam? No Mr. Lavinino? Aye Mr. Williams? No Ms. Hartman? No Motion
fails.
Supervisor Williams?
So I'm going to make a motion that's similar but takes a little bit more away from my Santa Claus Lane and funds more projects. It does fund the marine interpretive signs at less, but I am really confident that This is a city asset and a harbor asset and the waterfront division should pay for a portion of this too. So what I would do is allocate to Santa Claus 10,000 marine themed interpretive signs 10, 000 and the history of oil exhibit which I also When I just read it, I was like whatever we're going to talk about all the beneficial uses of oil. But then I went down and saw it and it's really like a lot more fair. And as you saw from the slides, it's going to talk about the history of the oil spill too. So 10 grand there and 10 grand to the Gaviota Creek Fish Passage which isn't enough yet.
It's item 12 but get I have confidence that Mauricio will be able to get more money
Any discussion? I would second that motion. And seeing no discussion we have a motion and a second I guess we can call the vote on this. Supervisor
Wolf did you have something? Thank you Madam Chair well it's not obviously it's not perfect, it's not what I would've wanted but I think to move this forward we just vote on it and move it forward. What's that? So I understand the motion to be moving staff's recommendations as modified as to these general allocation amounts as shown on the screen.
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Yes. We have a motion and a second call the vote. Ms.
Wolfe? Aye. Mr. Adam? No. Mr. Lavinino? No, Mr. Williams? Aye. Ms Hartman? Aye Passes 3-2
And then do we need an additional motion about the set aside in the two year or that's part of the staff recommendation that we did the first Okay sorry got a little lost there. All right we have closed session coming up Mr. Gazzone.
Chairman and supervisors today in closed session the board will be discussing three ongoing workers' compensation cases, Rivera versus County of Santa Barbara, Asado-Alvarez versus County of Santa Barbara and Surgett versus County of Santa Barbara. You also have a fourth anticipated litigation case meeting with county council. You have two public employee performance evaluations for county council and planning and development director and then public employee appointment of county council.
And how long do you think it'll take?
My estimate would be roughly an hour and a half.
Okay so how about quarter to three and we can convene in closed session and have a five-minute break before we convene. We are convening so Supervisor Adam can join us in the large boardroom
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Okay we are reconvening the June 20, 2017 Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors hearing and we're reporting out from closed session.
Thank you. Chairman supervisors today in close session the board considered three existing litigation cases Rivera versus county of Santa Barbara. Acedo Alvarez versus county of Santa Barbara. Surgeon versus can use in a rubber. You also had one conference with legal counsel for anticipated litigation. You considered public employee performance evaluations for county council and planning and development director. And
Oh and I get to report this? So we are reappointing our county counsel for four years and glad that he is going to stick with us.
Thank you Chair Hartman and just for completing the report, I believe that was a unanimous vote.
That was a unanimous vote and an enthusiastic vote.
And thank you.
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