BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 September 18, 2018

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:57 · ≈ 9:03 AM

I'd like to convene this meeting. Roll call, please.

Pledge of Allegianceceremonial · click to expand · ≈22s recited, not transcribed
UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:01 · ≈ 9:04 AM

Ms. Wolff? Here. Ms. Hartman? Here. Mr. Adam? Here Mr. Lavinino? Here Mr. Williams? Here Please join me for the Pledge of Allegiance

Can I get a motion on the minutes of September 11th's meeting?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.834:33 · ≈ 9:04 AM

So moved.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:34 · ≈ 9:04 AM

Motion and second, all those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Let's take the ceremony, we're going to do CEO's report.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:46 · ≈ 9:04 AM

Good morning, Board of Members. I have a couple of announcements to make. First is just a quick update on the Lompoc Riverbed Assistance. We talked about it last week. Things have continued and our staff from Be Well Social Services, Public Defender and Public Health continue to engage individuals at the triage centers. Our departments are continuing outreach to determine needs and coordinate services and care. Approximately 50 individuals are at the site. Multiple individuals have been referred to housing detox beds Medical treatment when needed and social services has assisted with 22 eligibility applications.

CARES for PAWS is on site and providing vaccines, spay and neuter services. So our staff is continuing to be active out there and we'll be evaluating the situation through the next 30 days which is at the triage period. In addition, just quickly that our recruitment for our planning and development director has been opened. Interested applicants can find the full job description on our county website. Just link to employment resources on the county's website through the HR page.

And lastly I just want to introduce to the board and to our residents Joni Maiden who as you know you selected last week as our child support services director Joni has worked for the county and in the department for 24 years. She worked her way up from child support officer beginning in 1994, and has been in the past 12 years as our deputy director for the department. In 2017 she served as the interim director. And as you know Joni has experienced talent and education to lead the department into this next phase. We congratulate her and welcome her and I asked her to just come and say a few words.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed6:34 · ≈ 9:06 AM

Thank you, Chair Williams, board members, CEO Minnesota. I just wanted to thank you for the appointment. It's a responsibility that I won't take for granted. I feel very proud to work in a program that's offering support to the families in our communities. Privileged to work with people in our department that manage 12,000 cases and work hard every day to do it. And I'm excited to work with county colleagues. To increase efficiencies in our Renew 22 projects and beyond.

Thank you so much.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.837:12 · ≈ 9:07 AM

That concludes my report

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed7:14 · ≈ 9:07 AM

Supervisor Hartman has a question.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.837:16 · ≈ 9:07 AM

Thank you, Mr. Chair I just wanted to say that I have heard nothing but positive feedback about our county partnership with the city of Lompoc and particularly wanted to Commend supervisor Adam in his office's leadership on this issue

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed7:35 · ≈ 9:07 AM

With that we will take the ceremonial items first, that's 823 824 and 825 Can you read? A motion for the ceremonial items. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Motion passes.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed7:56 · ≈ 9:07 AM

Thank you Chair Williams, members of the Board. We have three ceremonial resolutions this morning to present. We're going to start with item A23. This is sponsored by Supervisors Lavagnino and Hartman. This is a resolution proclaiming the week of September 23rd 2018 through September 29th 2018 as Child Passenger Safety Week in Santa Barbara County from First Five Teresa Jones here and we also have Lieutenant Mike Brown from the Santa Maria CHP and Lieutenant Kurt Cruz from Buellton CHP If there's anybody else from first five that you'd like to have come on up, come on up. Let everybody come forward and I will read the resolution into the record.

Whereas the number one preventable cause of death and injury of children is the automobile collision. And whereas car seat use reduces the risk of death to infants by 71% and to toddlers aged 1 through 4, by 54%. And whereas the use of booster seat for children four to eight years of age reduces the risk of serious injury by 45%. And whereas nine out of ten car seats are installed improperly and if used correctly, car seats can dramatically reduce the risk of serious and fatal injuries making those statistics preventable.

And whereas the state of California requires all occupants of a motor vehicle to be properly secured in children less than eight years of age to be secured in appropriate child safety seat. Remaining in the back seat until 8 years of age or 4 feet 9 inches and is the recommendation that children under 13 years of age remain in the backseat. Now, therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved at this Board of Supervisors proclaims the week of September 23 through 29 2018 as Child Passenger Safety Week in Santa Barbara County and encourages all residents to support and participate in child passenger safety activities passed and adopted today

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed10:08 · ≈ 9:10 AM

I just wanted to say on behalf of First 5 Santa Barbara County, I thank the Board of Supervisors and particularly Supervisors Hartman and Labanino. I have today with me Bealton Area Commander Lieutenant Kurt Cruz and Santa Maria Area Commander Lieutenant Mike Brown who have a few words to say about this important safety topic.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed10:28 · ≈ 9:10 AM

Well, thank you very much and good morning. So we're certainly honored to be here today and thank you very much. We believe the proper use of child safety seat preventable cause of death and injury of children who are involved in a motor vehicle accident. And I'd like to put something on the screen if I could. Thank you. It's a success story. So on May 9th, The Sunray Times ran a story where the Bealton CHP area presented two groups The San Diego Valley, the group is called Mops. It's mothers of preschoolers and the presentation was about the importance of child safety seat program tips specifics of our California laws my technician Todd Sparks who's also my auto tech for the area talked about in proper installation Laws laws and whatnot and the group is about 90 People from this group.

The family, one family in the audience kind of took exception to the presentation and gave credit to the instructions from the class With the saving lives of their daughter, a two-year-old daughter there. The family ensured that her daughter's car seat was properly installed as they went on a trip in Los Angeles on Interstate 10. As they were on this trip, there was a drunk driver hit their vehicle from the rear. Their vehicle hit the freeways center divider twice before landing outside. Their daughter remained in the car during the entire event uninjured. And as the family stated, we escaped the worst possible outcome thanks to her being safely secured in our child's safety seat.

So we stressed to protect your children or our children by properly using age appropriate passenger restraint devices, safety seats or safety belts for older children and it's a free service so we ask that anybody contact the nearest CHP office fire department Or the first five of Santa Barbara County. Thank you very much

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed12:34 · ≈ 9:12 AM

Good morning. I just want to thank you and thank the County of Santa Barbara on behalf of the California Highway Patrol. This effort towards reducing fatal injuries due to child passenger seat belts is something that's near and dear to our hearts, and we go out there every day and try and fight for that mission. And so this is another example of how the county of Santa Barbara takes it seriously I can't help but think of a case where a child passenger was properly seat belted, but the mother wasn't. The vehicle became involved in a collision and the mother actually caused fatal injury to her child because she wasn't belted. So it's even beyond just having your child belted any person or any object in your vehicle we have to make sure that everybody is restrained And so part of the mission going forward for the CHP is going to be in San Riero specifically, is to specifically seek out those people that aren't restrained and educate them through enforcement action.

So thank you for your time.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed13:43 · ≈ 9:13 AM

You all are very incredible sources because we all know that your officers see some of the worst and most tragic situations, and we hope that we can contribute to not seeing more of them. And as maybe the member of the board who has Recent experience installing car seats, with Steve there because he's got a couple grand babies that are recent as well. It really does not decrease your manhood to go and ask for help on child safety installation. I mean the fact is the seats are a lot better but A little more technical, I want to especially thank the staff of Montecito Fire.

And especially when you're calling a small agency, you should try to give them notice because I didn't, and there's obviously a lot of things that are bad signs. If you take a sharp corner and the seat moves or even almost falls over, that's a bad sign. If the child is taller than the seat, also a bad sign. So it's not all common sense, and it's good to get the professional opinion when the safety of your little one is at stake, so thank you.

A24.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed15:13 · ≈ 9:15 AM

Chair Williams, members of the board item a 24 is sponsored by Supervisor Lavagnino and this is a resolution of commendation honoring Penny Powell upon her retirement from the Public Health Department after over 30 years of quality care to the citizens of Santa Barbara County and Penny is here. Penny could come on up and I think we have representatives of the department.

And I will read the resolution into the record. Whereas Penny has dedicated 30 years of her career to the residents of Santa Barbara County, all of which have been with the public health department community health in various positions and cities. And whereas Penny has provided excellent nutrition education and support to the participants of the WIC or Women's Infants and Children Program.

And whereas Penny has been an excellent representation of the dietician profession by her professional and up-to-date nutrition conversations with providers as well as being a mentor to dietetic interns. And whereas, Penny has mentored, trained and coached staff on the fundamentals of nutrition, customer service and team building. Leaving in place a foundation for the next generation of Santa Barbara County Public Health WIC program staff.

Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors of Santa Barbara County does hereby acknowledge Penny Powell for her lifetime commitment of quality care to the citizens of Santa Barbara County pass and adopted today.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5516:50 · ≈ 9:16 AM

Good morning. On behalf of the Public Health Department, thank you for this opportunity to recognize a long-term employee to the county as well as to our department but I'd like to introduce to you quickly Paige Batson who is our Interim Deputy Director for Community Health and Susan Lyles who is the WIC director and she has a speech for Penny.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed17:19 · ≈ 9:17 AM

So good morning everyone. I obviously can't say all the accomplishments and achievements that Penny has done in her 30-year career, there's just too many things to say and not enough time to say them but over time with us she's really helped work on local initiatives and state ones moving the women infants and children's program as well as a couple other programs forward to improve the health of our community through nutrition and breastfeeding education We're sad to see her go but we're also joyful that we got to know her, that she was able to work with us for such a long time and congratulate her on everything she's done and wish her the best of luck in this next adventure of her life. So thank you for everything Penny and she will be missed!

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed18:08 · ≈ 9:18 AM

I want to thank the board for their support of the Women, Infants and Children program that I've worked for such a long time. And also for nutrition services which includes especially with our work population our lactation services program and your support of our county employees Especially in continuing education with our employees, university with our employees.

And also I was a part of the staff training program at the local level and also I served for three years up at the state level and that was through support of the public health department. So having continuing education is an important aspect of support of employees, and thank you very much for recognizing my 30 years.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed19:08 · ≈ 9:19 AM

A25.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed19:10 · ≈ 9:19 AM

Chair Williams, members of the board. Item 825 sponsored by Supervisor Lavinino. This is a resolution honoring the Veterans Treatment Court of Santa Maria for the many contributions to the Santa Barbara County community. We have a large and illustrious group here to receive this so I'm going to try to get everybody's names and if I miss anybody I'm sorry but from courts we're gonna have Judge Kay Coons, Lupe Paez, Ginger Pryor From probation, Julie Lara, Kim Sheen, Holly Benton, Amber Flores.

EDD Frank Campo, Ryan Barney. Treatment providers Donna Flores, Christina Vasquez, Mark Durham, Good Sam, Kirk Estes also is here from Veterans Administration. Sue Dolan and also Rhonda Murphy County Veteran Services and from the community Steve Baird. From Band of Brothers, also Amy Lopez and Garrett Bakke from Behavioral Wellness. And if I missed anybody, I'm very sorry but I think I got most everybody. And I will go ahead and read the resolution into the record.

Whereas Veterans Treatment Court of Santa Maria was established in 2011 with a goal of serving justice involving veterans. And whereas, Veterans Treatment Court promotes sobriety, recovery and stability for veterans in Santa Barbara County. And whereas, the Veterans Treatment Court works to establish a viable option for a select group of veterans whose needs are better met through treatment rather than incarceration. And whereas, the primary goal of Veterans Treatment Court is to affirm veterans military service while addressing their unique needs and to link a veteran to the appropriate program and services available as to reduce incarceration and facilitate their integration back into the community. And whereas, Veterans Treatment Court has a peer mentor component which is an integral part that makes the program successful.

This program gives the opportunity for other veterans to volunteer as mentors and help a fellow veteran through their journey. And now, therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors of the County of Santa Barbara does hereby recognize the Veterans Treatment Court of Santa Maria for their many contributions to the Santa Barbara County community pass and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed21:31 · ≈ 9:21 AM

My glasses on. Chair Williams and members of the board, we were actually hoping to also get an award for having the largest group here today so maybe you'll take that into consideration. The Santa Maria Veterans Treatment Court was implemented in 2011. This endeavor is a collaboration amongst the Santa Barbara Superior Court, the offices of the public defender and district attorney, the probation department, the Department of Behavioral Wellness, Santa Barbara County Sheriff, UCSB, the Veterans Administration, state EDD and several community based organizations some of whom are here today including Coast Valley, Good Samaritan Shelter Services and the Band of Brothers.

Since 2011, approximately 200 veterans have come through the Santa Maria Court. This program collaboratively addresses the underlying issues that many veterans struggle with daily including post-traumatic stress disorder, traumatic brain injury, military sexual trauma, substance use disorder and fighting suicide. Without proper tools, guidance and support many veterans become entangled within the justice system. Some have used substances to self-medicate, some have struggled with reintegration into civilian life and others have simply lost their way.

I've had the honor of meeting each and every one of the veterans in our court program and I always find myself in awe as I watch and experience their transformation. We have been successful in housing homeless veterans, in treating long-term mental health issues and substance abuse. And in accessing VA funded treatment programs and services. Since 2011 the Santa Maria Veterans Treatment Court has graduated 140 veteran defendants who are required to complete a yearlong rigorous program including treatment, counseling, community work service, probation supervision, and numerous court appearances.

As a wife of a military veteran and a mother of a future veteran, I am beyond proud of the work that we have all done collaboratively. I would like to thank the Board of Supervisors for your continued support of our efforts to serve justice-involved veterans. We're all honored to be acknowledged with this resolution. September also marks National Recovery Month. This is truly a celebration of Veterans Treatment Court, even more importantly this is an acknowledgement of the sacrifices that the veterans have made to serve us and to serve our country.

Our next VTC graduation will be held on Friday November 30th you are all invited and we hope to see you all there thank you

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ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8924:19 · ≈ 9:24 AM

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed24:23 · ≈ 9:24 AM

also want to thank the Board of Supervisors, not only for the recognition and honor that you give us today but for your continued support. Not only in Veterans Treatment Court but all of our This county is indeed very fortunate to have leaders that are receptive to these types of courts that help individuals get back on their feet, try to make a more productive society for everyone. So again thank you so very much for your continued support and on behalf of all of us and you can see it is a very collaborative effort that we have here and that's what makes it work. Thank you once again.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8925:05 · ≈ 9:25 AM

I just want to say that if you've never been to a Veterans Treatment Court graduation, I know we go to a lot of events. And Amy coaxed me into going to my first one and it is, you see people whose lives have been changed. It is probably the most moving ceremony I've ever been to. And I think the reason why we have so many people here is because as Judge Coon said, it is probably the best thing we do at the county as far as collaboration.

All of our different departments working together. The court system working hand in hand with us. The community getting involved not just Band of Brothers which does a great job but A real integral part of this, where members of the community offer their services free of charge to try to walk with these individuals who have found themselves in the justice system.

And it is really the whole community coming together I am also, I have to mention because he's a neighbor of mine and he's probably out on a walk right now. But if he does happen to watch this, Judge Flores, I want to thank him also for kind of getting the wheels turning on this but I highly recommend you attend one of these graduations that will definitely change your life so I want to thank this whole group did a great job.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed26:41 · ≈ 9:26 AM

So we have a request to trail item A13. We have a request to poll item A6 and items A19 through 21, is there any other requests?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8926:54 · ≈ 9:26 AM

There is. I'm trying to find it on here, this is the problem with the computer. Whichever one deals with the Triumph contract, my computer hold on a second. A9.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed27:12 · ≈ 9:27 AM

So with the exception, can I get a motion on the balance of the agenda with the exception of A6, A9, A13 and A19 through 21? So moved. Is there a second? All those in favor please say aye. Aye. And then maybe a motion to trail item A13. Second. All those in favor please say aye. Opposed? It's unanimous. So let's go to A6.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed27:49 · ≈ 9:27 AM

Chair Williams, members of the board, item A6 is from community services. It's to consider recommendations regarding the California Emergency Solutions and Housing Program application.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed28:02 · ≈ 9:28 AM

Thank you Mr. Chair. First of all, I want to thank staff for bringing this item forward and moving us in this direction. I do have a question however and that has to do with in the board letter page two of six number four there is a mention of navigation centers and I would just like, there you are. I would like you if you could to please explain those navigation centers in more detail.

I did before this meeting try and find some information and What I found, and I'd like you to either confirm or tell me that I'm wrong. But it looks like these centers may be on public land and if that is the case how will the county board of supervisors be involved in those decisions as well as the community?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed29:11 · ≈ 9:29 AM

Thank you for this opportunity. Just to clarify, navigation centers are really resources that are provided to homeless individuals and households. We at this point are anticipating using existing shelter sites and service locations as navigation centers so we do not anticipate Establishing a separate navigation center at

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed29:34 · ≈ 9:29 AM

this point. Okay, thank you so much for that appreciate it Thank You mr. Chair I will move this item

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed29:41 · ≈ 9:29 AM

there's motion And a second all those in favor please say aye aye aye opposed Let's take up a 9

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed29:50 · ≈ 9:29 AM

chair Williams members of the board item 89 is from General Services The request is to consider recommendations regarding an award contract for countywide security services to Triumph Protection Group

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8930:01 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Supervisor Lavender. Thank you, Mr Chair. I just wanted to express concern about the fact that we only had two bids and This is hard for me because Yvonne, who handles all of the security up here for a lot of the events that happens after is actually on vacation. And I didn't see this before she left. But she has expressed concerns that Triumph has not been very responsive. So I just want Triumph to know, I don't know if they're here today or Please take this job seriously.

This is a two year contract, I'm going to be following this very closely and I want to make sure that the services that we're contracting with are provided and If they're not, I'll be hearing about it and it will be rolling that way. So it's just so difficult when we're anticipating somebody to show up as a security individual which again happened last week and the person doesn't show.

It means that one of our county employees has to stay late and it just really causes a lot of problems. Just concerned about this, I want to make sure that we have parameters in place. We have some benchmarks that I saw that are in the contract. I want to make sure that we're following those and this is just more a shot across the bow to make sure that we're taking this job seriously.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed31:46 · ≈ 9:31 AM

And I would just say that if she's having an issue, that means the whole board is having an issue so- I'll be supporting this. I'll

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8931:53 · ≈ 9:31 AM

make a motion that we go ahead and move A9. Is

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed31:59 · ≈ 9:31 AM

there a second?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed32:00 · ≈ 9:32 AM

I'll second it. And I just want to ask Mr. Gazzone if there's a standard provision in there that we have a termination for convenience.

CommentHummel RoadProposed · by introduction32:08 · ≈ 9:32 AM

That's correct, in the termination area there is a 30 day convenience termination as well as the non-appropriation of funds and the forecause but there is flat 30 day termination. The county can exercise for no cause. Okay,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed32:20 · ≈ 9:32 AM

good to know. So if- Good catch Mr. Atwood. Well that's because we have such great legal advice that we always have those kind of provisions in there which enable us to cancel at will and so if they drop the ball then we'll just go out to bid again.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed32:40 · ≈ 9:32 AM

There is a motion and a second. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? It's unanimous. And for A19 through A21 it would be my suggestion. No, A13 is trailed. So for A19 through A21 I think we could do them all if that's okay with the board.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed33:08 · ≈ 9:33 AM

Chair Williams, members of the Board. Item A-19 is sponsored by Supervisors Williams and Hartman. It's to consider recommendations regarding a resolution in support of Propositions 1 and 2. A-20 also sponsored by Supervisors Williams and Hartman is regarding a resolution in opposition to Proposition 6. And 821, sponsored by Supervisors Williams and Hartman is to consider recommendation for a resolution in support of Proposition 12. And I have requests to speak from the public on item 821 from Lee Heller and all three of those items from Mr. Caldwell.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed33:49 · ≈ 9:33 AM

Mr. Caldwell, I think you may have another Request to speak is there any questions before from the board? Mr. Caldwell

PresenterAndy CaldwellColab and our concern with this is multifold You know for instance you put thisProposedself-stated34:02 · ≈ 9:34 AM

Thank You chair Williams members of the board. I'm Andy Caldwell representing Colab and our concern with this is multifold You know for instance you put this on the admin calendar Which means it's not even slated for discussion. Think about that for a minute, you're weighing in not as individuals, as individual supervisors or individual citizens. We don't care if you go out there and campaign for it, make speeches for it, sign your name on petitions, get the signatures to get it on the ballot. That's your prerogative.

But when you sit as the Board of Supervisors, you're supposed to be a deliberative board representing the voters and all the citizens. And his supervisor Centeno used to say why do you think you need to weigh in when the people themselves are going to get to vote? Are you trying to influence them without even a debate or Do you actually pretend that you speak for all of your constituents?

Because that's really what you're doing, you're pretending. because none of you got 100% of the vote and not even 100% of the voters voted at all. They don't even bother to register. Again, we don't mind you as individual politicians, public servants and citizens doing whatever you want on your own time. But you're on our time right now. You're supposed to be doing the people's business not weighing in on election issues without even a debate, without even a forum.

Without two sides being represented it's no sides being represented. It's just a vote because you think you have three votes. That's not how our system is supposed to work. At a minimum, if you're going to do this, you should invite pros and cons to come up here and present the two sides. Because many of these things came out of either Sacramento and or they came out of hundreds of thousands if not a couple million people signing petitions.

And then you weigh in without even a word being spoken pretending to represent 430 or 440,000 people in this county? And secondly, what's it got to do with the Board of Supervisors business today? Again silence because it wasn't even agendized for a debate or discussion. That it borders on abuse of power and privilege is what it does. And like I said, I've been doing this for 28 years. Joe Centeno was one of the most deliberative board members we had and he was firm in this in saying let's not try to lead people where they may not want to go when they didn't ask for our opinion. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed37:17 · ≈ 9:37 AM

We're going to go to Santa Barbara to hear from Dr. Heller on A21 and then we'll hear from Frank Thompson on A19.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed37:31 · ≈ 9:37 AM

Members of the board, good morning. Thank you for pulling this item in order to provide an opportunity for public comment and forward debate of the kind that you've just been told you're not providing. I'm here on behalf of the Yes on 12 campaign which has multiple sponsors including the country's oldest animal welfare organization, the ASPCA as well as United Farm Workers and the Center for Food Safety.

I won't take up my full three minutes reading you the list, but the point is Prop 12 has support from farm workers and food safety advocates as well as the animal welfare community. More to the point, Santa Barbara County voters passed Prop 2 by 70% in 2008. Demonstrating strong support here for humane farming of the kind that we practice in this county, where we're blessed to not have these large confined animal farming operations.

Our county recognizes that humane farming is also healthier for consumers and better for the environment. It has long been understood that eggs produced by battery cage housed hens have led to a huge increase in salmonella contamination. County residents want a safe food supply. The reason that we need Prop 12, and then we are asking for your endorsement is to level the playing field for California farmers and to clarify food choices for consumers.

Eggs sold in California must be cage free regardless of where raised. Requiring the same standards for veal and pork would ensure that California farmers are not disadvantaged in the market by cheaper CAFO practices than other states. It also means that California consumers can rely on the fact that any pork or veal sold here is raised humanely and with fewer health and environmental risks.

I ask you to endorse Prop 12 to send the message that our county supports a market where consumers are assured of humane, healthy food and farmers are competing on a level playing field. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed39:21 · ≈ 9:39 AM

We're going to stay in Santa Barbara for Frank Thompson on A19 and then we'll hear from Mary Dockterman on A19 after that.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed39:33 · ≈ 9:39 AM

Good morning, Supervisors. It's the first time for a remote broadcast for me so I don't know where to look but at any rate, I am here to talk to you about Proposition 1 and Proposition 2 on the November ballot and say that I certainly am in support of these measures. This is the first housing loan The program has a well established record of success. This will provide about $100,000 per unit of direct financial assistance which usually leverages about four times as much other loan and private money so you're really getting big bang for your buck.

On the money that would be provided from Prop 1 and 2. And those are intended for the homeless, mentally ill, other homeless, veterans and then low income families. So it really has quite a substantial record of success. This also provides financial assistance for a total financial package, which will further the efforts of your existing county staff and county programs to solve our current homeless problem and our long-term low income housing. Thank you very much.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed41:04 · ≈ 9:41 AM

Our final speaker is Mary Doctorman on A19.

CommentMary DoctormanProposedself-stated41:12 · ≈ 9:41 AM

Hi, I'm Mary Doctorman also with Frank Thompson Housing Consultants. And I just want to echo what Frank Thompson said about the opportunities that this money will provide from these two propositions to extend our work in providing affordable housing in Santa Barbara County. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed41:32 · ≈ 9:41 AM

That concludes public comment

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed41:36 · ≈ 9:41 AM

Well, I will just offer an explanation and definitely one of the public speakers mentioned that this probably should have been a D item. And my tendency is to facilitate brevity in meetings but I will provide a mea culpa Issues as important as this, the D item would probably be more appropriate. My reasoning is bringing forward three of these items is the fact that they are of vital interest to the missions of the county.

The financial interest of the county, I don't understand how you could possibly argue that this is not within our purview. The difference that the SB1 funds have made in providing an adequate amount of road repair and speeding up the 101 project In my view, whether you view the funding source as good or bad. The effect on our ability to do our mission is in my view undisputed and of course the prop one and two helps us fulfill the mission of housing first and I don't want to say solving our homeless problem, but taking steps to reduce our homeless population and the amount of veterans that are in danger of homelessness or are homeless.

I want to express that in my district, the ability to complete the 101 project is probably the most widespread bipartisan issue. None of the doors in all of Carpinteria that I walked, none of the doors in all of Santa Barbara and only a couple people elsewhere in my district dissent from the view that the 101 project should be completed with all alacrity. Updated timetable that the funds I have provided to me makes it just a no brainer. Anybody who uses the 101 freeway should be voting against Prop 6 and I feel like I am representing the interests of my constituents in bringing that forward. The last one, Prop 12 is simply an expression of the citizen's ability to contact us and ask for something to be on the agenda. I think that should be open to all and we can decide whether we want to sponsor that or not but To me, that's a basic question.

One speaker charged us with telling the voters what we think without being asked. This is clearly a question of being asked by at least some of the voters in Santa Barbara County for our opinion. Supervisor Adam?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed45:01 · ≈ 9:45 AM

Well, I'm going to take the opposite opinion here. You know, I don't want it to be a D item. You know, I appreciate the fact that if you're going to burden us with these things that are beyond our jurisdiction that they just sort of roll through and you guys can take your stands which I believe are... Which is why I don't make a big deal out of them Want to vote on the record. I just want a roll call vote So that I'm not on the record as supporting these things but generally, I feel like anything that's beyond our jurisdiction is inappropriate to be Dealt with here You know entirely and I think that I Using this for what amounts to a personal forum, to promote our personal favorite items is just wrong. And it's not the right forum to be doing these things with and I realize that I'm in the minority here and That's okay, but I'm just saying if we concentrated on the things that were in our direct jurisdiction and leave the rest for our own personal time.

I think that would be better and more appropriate.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed46:38 · ≈ 9:46 AM

Mr. Gazzini and then I'll go to Mr. Labonino.

CommentHummel RoadProposed · by introduction46:41 · ≈ 9:46 AM

Chair and supervisors, since there's a discussion as to what the board's options are on these three items, just want to summarize that in 2009 the California Supreme Court in the Vargas case looked at this issue and stated that it is clear it is permissible for a public entity to evaluate the merits of a proposed ballot measure and to make its views known to the public. So you have legal framework to do this and then you have a policy discussion as to what you want to do?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8947:08 · ≈ 9:47 AM

Thank you, Mr. Gazzani. Mr. Lavinia? Thank you, Mister Chair. Well I'm going to be abstaining from these and my abstention on these matters doesn't reflect my personal opinions on the propositions but rather my hesitancy to kind of spend time at our meetings telling people how to vote. I strongly encourage people to get out to vote. But I really don't see too much difference between this and kind of just going down the ballot and giving our endorsements in each race. I think the argument could be made that whoever gets elected governor or member of Congress, or a state representative could also strongly impact this county. So I'm going to leave those decisions to the voters.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed47:54 · ≈ 9:47 AM

Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8347:55 · ≈ 9:47 AM

Thank you Mr Chair. The county has a ledge committee that influences or tries to influence the federal and state governments on issues that have to do with county policies, county budget. In the case of propositions, the citizens, the voters are the legislature. And I think when there's a clear impact on issues that affect the county it's up to us to stand up and make that clear to the legislators i.e., the voters. And in this case with housing, with animal welfare and especially having to do with money for roads and infrastructure where the county has pulled way beyond its weight with over 400 million for the 101 widening project.

It is critical to our county how people vote on this. So I think it's very important that we make that as clear as we possibly can, so I'm very supportive both of this process and also the policy to support these matters.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed49:01 · ≈ 9:49 AM

I want to thank Supervisor Hartman for reminding us of the law. And I just want to reiterate or summarize that because the voters in the case of a proposition are considered the elected officials, that legally this is the same thing as lobbying the state legislature and Congress. Does suit our interests to be able to lobby Congress and the legislature, and this is the same thing under the law. Supervisor Wolfe?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed49:41 · ≈ 9:49 AM

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm actually glad that these items were pulled and I think what it does is it brings a little bit more attention to the public about why these items are important to the Board of Supervisors. We're certainly not telling people how to vote but we are letting folks know how they impact the county of Santa Barbara. And I just want to point out in item A-20, there is specific financial information about Proposition 6 and the impact it would have directly to the County of Santa Barbara if Proposition 6 was to pass.

It's noted and we talk about this at our board meetings about the backlog Of our roads and highways, and in the board letter it says that there is a backlog of approximately $315 million. And again I'm quoting now from the board letter that this new source of funding would allow the county to leverage local measure A and general fund revenues to address the unfunded backlog of deferred maintenance.

In addition to the funding directly received by the county, our region will also receive $184 million in RRAA funding to the Santa Barbara County Association of Governments for the 101 HOV and parallel projects. This absolutely does affect Santa Barbara County. And I do believe it's really important that the Board of Supervisors explain to the voters the importance of this initiative, Proposition 6 and the importance of voting no because we need to keep the funding stream that has been available to us continue to flow and Proposition 6 would stop it in its tracks. So I'm pleased that you brought these items to the board. I'm pleased that we're having this discussion and I trust that the voters of Santa Barbara County will look at all the information, take all of the information into account before they vote.

Thank you Mr. Chair

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed52:07 · ≈ 9:52 AM

Thank you for bringing it back to the policy matter at hand. And I'd like to move A19, A20 and A21 that is that the board have a resolution in support of Propositions 1, 2 and 12 and strong opposition to Proposition 6 and determine that those actions are not projects under CEQA.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8352:30 · ≈ 9:52 AM

Second?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed52:33 · ≈ 9:52 AM

Motion and a second all those in, roll call please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed52:36 · ≈ 9:52 AM

Ms. Wolfe? Aye. Ms. Hartman? Aye. Mr. Adam? Abstain. Mr. Lavinino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8952:42 · ≈ 9:52 AM

Abstain.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed52:43 · ≈ 9:52 AM

Mr Williams? Aye Passes with three ayes, two abstentions

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed52:50 · ≈ 9:52 AM

And we are ready for departmental item number one

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed52:55 · ≈ 9:52 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, item number one. Pardon me, we do have a request to speak under public comment if we could do that first?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed53:02 · ≈ 9:53 AM

For items not on the agenda.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed53:04 · ≈ 9:53 AM

Correct, we're going to go to Santa Barbara for Ed Kulaski. We have one request to speak. Mr. Kulaski.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed53:11 · ≈ 9:53 AM

I want to apologize, Mitch Kulaski did not want to skate over that Democratic right.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed53:21 · ≈ 9:53 AM

I'm not sure I understood that correctly. Okay, for four and a half years I've been trying to remodel my house if you can show that but You know you bring up the question about people voting it's kind of like who would vote? It's hopeless here I titled my talk today, I cannot remodel my house because our supervisor has not granted us permission. This has nothing to do with the guidelines. They ruled that our second story is solely over the garage when it is not.

We came in the first four meetings, we did everything they asked. It was pretty simple, pretty simple stuff. We had a five to two vote. We were carrying the vote. Two of the members, John and Dylan wanted us not to locate the second story solely over the garage. So we came into the fifth meeting, we had remedied that situation. We came, we sat down. And they kicked us out. They took a seven to zero vote against us. We didn't get the chance to say a single word, not a single word.

Dylan kept jumping up and screaming at my architect every time he stood up. This is not a democracy. This isn't even remotely related to a democracy. This is a dictatorship. This like hail to our dictator. Do we have permission? Is it right? Is it just? It's certainly not right, and it's certainly not just. It's just an utter dictatorship. You know a good example of this was When I talked to Ann Almey that our vote of five to two in our favor wasn't in the minutes. She said she puts down stuff that she remembers, this is like a few weeks after the vote.

However over a year later when we're at the Board of Supervisors, She tells Ryan to get up there and tell them, tell them. You can hear her sitting back here. Tell them, tell them! Not everybody was present when that vote was taken 5-2. There's seven members, five to two. Surely you can do the math? Who wasn't present? This is disgusting. You worry about people voting?

Why would people vote? You know, my neighbors would say... I would tell them that I only think there's one that's corrupt. They would say they're all corrupt! No, I don't vote. I've given up on it. Why vote? You know you should look back at some of the philosophers like Socrates, Plato, Aristotle They even mentioned back then about a democracy and how to run a democracy, things to worry about.

When you get a dictator, when you get a tyrant, how to dispose of them? Not with violence, sometimes just with humor because it's so damn disgusting! Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed56:42 · ≈ 9:56 AM

That concludes the public comment period.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed56:48 · ≈ 9:56 AM

Item D1.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed56:50 · ≈ 9:56 AM

Chair Williams, members of the board, item one is from the Public Works Department. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the introduction of an ordinance amending Santa Barbara County Code chapter 23 section 2313.12 to expand the hours of oversized vehicle restrictions effective 30 days after the adoption by the board.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed57:09 · ≈ 9:57 AM

Good morning, Mr. Chair and board members as the clerk mentioned today's one of two items to amend chapter 23 of the code which is the motor vehicles in traffic section. The first one will deal with oversized vehicles and the second one will deal with speed limits around the county. And we are fortunate today to have the two commanders from Buellton and Santa Maria here, Brown and Cruz because they were here for the resolution. So they'll be available to answer any enforcement questions that may come up. Because as you know, the CHP does enforcement on county roads throughout the state.

So with that said I will turn the presentation over now to Gary Smart our traffic engineer. Thank you.

CommentMary DocktermanProposed · by introduction57:48 · ≈ 9:57 AM

Good morning also Chris Nedness here Deputy Director for the Transportation Section. So we are looking at amending the County Code 2313.12, which is our oversized vehicle ordinance. We have certain streets in the county that have oversized vehicle restrictions. The oversize vehicle restrictions apply to any vehicle over seven feet tall, 24 feet in length or eight feet in width.

Currently the areas that we have this restriction are in Isla Vista, Burton Mesa and Vanderburgh Village. Areas of Butterfly Beach and areas of Camino Del Remedio by the campus there. We're proposing to amend the section from the current time frame of 10 p.m.. To 6 p.o. Our 6 a.m. To 9 p. m. To 7 a. m This extended hours would help the law enforcement with Enforcement of the oversized vehicles during the 10 to 6 AM time frame.

They have limited staffing and that extra hour earlier or afterwards, they have more staff on the streets. Also it's a little bit outside from 10 PM to 2 AM there. They're looking for drunk drivers and those type things. Time period also coincide with the new beginnings program, which is a program that provides parking spaces on certain lots including county lots during the night so they can have a safe place to park. Those hours they can park are from 9 PM to 7 AM. So they would be able to get off the streets during those times and park the people that were in that program on those lots.

We recommend that the board adopt this ordinance and determine that the ordinance is not a project under SEPA. Any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed59:48 · ≈ 9:59 AM

There are no requests to speak so feel free to do questions or comments. Supervisor Wolk.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed59:56 · ≈ 9:59 AM

Thank you Mr. Chair, I just want to thank staff for bringing this forward and I want to thank CHP for working with us. Captain Ponce isn't here today but she's also, I just want to acknowledge her work and Kind of continuing issue, but I think the changes that are proposed are well thought out and I think working with our partners it makes a lot of sense. So thank you for bringing this in.

I definitely support this item. I don't know if anyone else has comments but I'm happy to make a motion.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:00:36 · ≈ 10:00 AM

There is a motion? Is there a second?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.831:00:39 · ≈ 10:00 AM

Second.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:00:40 · ≈ 10:00 AM

Motion and second. I'm going to vote with the maker of the motion, though I do have concerns this would be a better policy were there not an extensive waiting list for local residents on the safe parking program. So for folks that don't know New Beginnings, It has the program, it provides programmatic expectations for folks who have no choice but to live in their vehicles. But want to find some place that's legal to do so and they have monitoring team that goes by and make sure people are adhering To the conditions of use of a parking spot and what it takes is more people that particularly have.

A commercial parking lot or have a non-profit or government parking lots that can be used overnight since most of these parking lots are only used by users during the day, it's a good complimentary use and Really it is a demonstration of the consequences of our very out-of-control housing market, our low wage economy. And is the fact of how many people that you probably know are homeless and you just don't know it because they live in their vehicle and they dress up in a suit or something else and go to work every day.

So I think this policy is a tough call under the conditions, and I will support it. But unless more people step forward with parking spots for the safe parking program, it will cause some hardship of people who have no choice but Park in an illegal spot because there's no such thing as a legal spot that is open. And so, the reviews that I've got from people who have put over a parking spot in a commercial parking lot is very high.

In fact when this program started the submission for calling it was the Department of Homeless Security. Because the desire on the part of many owners of commercial lots was to have someone around that can report suspicious behavior and provide an extra layer of security for commercial businesses. So I encourage folks who I pray may be listening to contact New Beginnings if they are interested in providing a safe, legal, accountable parking spot for this need. Seeing no other lights there's motion on the second all those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed?

Motion carries. Item two.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:04:02 · ≈ 10:04 AM

Chair Williams, members of the board. Item number two also from Public Works is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an ordinance amending speed limits on various roads effective three days after adoption by the board. This involves the first, second, third and fourth districts.

CommentMary DocktermanProposed · by introduction1:04:19 · ≈ 10:04 AM

Chairman Williams board. Yes, I'll be presenting this item also. I'm Gary smart the County Santa Barbara public works We are presenting Speed limit zone changes For our streets has been I think about a year since last time I was front of the board With one of these items, all of our speed zones that are not mandated 25 are defaulted to 55 miles per hour and require a engineering traffic study to establish the zones. Those have to be done every seven years. If the conditions have not changed we can extend it to ten years but no longer than ten years can we go without doing an engineering traffic study.

For zones that are expiring, we perform the engineering traffic study to keep the zones current and enforceable for our law enforcement which is done by the CHP. The CHP is here for this item also and can answer any questions regarding that. Public Works does a process for establishing these zones as we do the engineering traffic study. We presented to our Traffic Engineering Committee, which is the advisory committee for your board. And that is one of the attachments is the minutes from that committee meeting for this item. The board amends the county code for the designated speed zones and then appropriate speed signs and roadway markings will be installed. And then that documentation is given to the CHP and the courts for enforcement.

An engineering traffic study reviews or studies the speed of the free flow of traffic on a segment of road. We take a sample size of those speeds of 50 to 100 vehicles, to get a good statistical representation of the speed of the roadway. Road conditions are recorded, the volume of traffic. On the roadways recorded, we collect the collision data and review that also. And then we analyze that data for the speed of the 85 percentile which the speed limits are based off of and we also compare that to the pace to make sure the sample size is representative of a good sample.

The roads we're presenting today are throughout the county. And I'll just go down the list, but before I do that, I'd also like to state due to our limited staffing, we have about 171 different zones that we maintain in the county. We maintain all of the arterials and major collector streets in the county with speed zones. Some of the more rural or local roads, some of them we maintain speed zone on, a majority we don't. We're reviewing that, the local roads and rural roads, and eliminating some of them because of the low volume.

On those roads, the lack of collisions and the lack ability to get enforcement on them. And some of those are listed on this item today. If the volumes of roads are less than 2,000 vehicles a day, if we have no collision history those are the roads we're looking at ending a speed zone on and it would just go back to having an unposted speed limit on it. Those roads, and I'll go down the list, are Rincon Hill which is one of the roads we have under 1,000 vehicles a day The speed limit currently is 30 miles per hour. We're recommending to remove that speed zone.

Sheppard Mesa, the road going up to it and then the one way section both of them we're recommending removing those. The volume is under 1,000 vehicles a day there also up at the loop we measured under 300 vehicles a day. Puente is a road in the Goleta area. And it's currently at 40 miles per hour. The engineering survey came in lower this year than last year or last 10 years ago, and we're able to reduce the speed or we're recommending to reduce the speed limit to 35 miles per hour on that road and also Vieja came in lower.

On Walnut, it is currently posted 25 miles per hour inappropriately. That is not enforceable and we're recommending a legal and enforceable speed limit of 30 miles per hour based on engineering traffic survey for that street. The roads in El Embarcadero community I mean Rancho and Barcadero community are currently posted 35, 30, 30. We met with the Homeowners Association at one of their meetings and followed up with their president and members of the homeowners association also in following meetings.

And established that they did not like the speed zones at 35 and 30. And they wish to remove those signs actually so that it wouldn't, they feel it would encourage people to go faster. Those roads are also under 2,000 vehicles, so we supported that. We're going to go in and do a, Traffic calming package with those roads also with edge stripe trying to narrow the lanes down and then also put in advisory signs for the Park they have in there For 25 miles per hour and some of the curves on their streets with lower advisory speeds on those and they support those Removal of speed zones. And then the other two speed zones we're looking at today are Rufio Road We're extending the current zone To include this section from Redondo Court to 40, 150 feet south of Redondo Court.

Currently the 35 mile per hour zone ends at Redondo Court but we're extending that and so that zone would go from unsigned to 35 miles per hour. And then Hummel Road will be also reduced, came in lower speed from 40 to 35. And that ends my presentation. If there's any questions, I'll be happy to answer them.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:10:51 · ≈ 10:10 AM

We have no requests to speak so feel free to make comments as well as questions. Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.831:10:55 · ≈ 10:10 AM

Thank you Mr. Chair. First of all, I just want to congratulate your department for the really super work you do and how responsive you are to our office and that is my office, 3rd District Office and our constituents. I really appreciate it. If I understand this, and this is always hard to explain to constituents particularly when they find roads speeds too high and then we're taking away speed limits. But this really came from a court decision that said speed traps are illegal and not a good way to raise money and so we have to have a rationale. And so this 85th percentile in collision is kind of the system that's developed am I correct?

CommentMary DocktermanProposed · by introduction1:11:42 · ≈ 10:11 AM

That is correct. The Engineering Traffic Survey has always been a tool for establishing speed zones, but the courts did weigh in with the ruling of Gley versus the people back in late 90s that if you do not follow the 85 percentile set the speed at the 85 percentile regardless of collisions or activity nearby. That would be a speed trap. Some laws have changed that and modified it a little bit where it gives the local agency a five mile per hour discretion if you do have collisions or pedestrian activity and other bicycle activities, stuff like that is not readily apparent to the motorist we can lower by five miles per hour but to do anything less would prevent it from being enforced by our CHP officers.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.831:12:31 · ≈ 10:12 AM

So I have a question, so Farran Road for example that's an area where there are a lot of cyclists and there are a lot of walkers every day morning and evening. How does that fit into this analysis?

CommentMary DocktermanProposed · by introduction1:12:46 · ≈ 10:12 AM

But we look at that data and with the engineering traffic survey, we would look at the characteristics of the roadway. And if we do have hidden driveways, bicyclists, no sidewalks, people are walking on their shoulders and stuff, we do recommend lowering it to five miles per hour. We try to keep the speed limits as low as possible and enforceable.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.831:13:09 · ≈ 10:13 AM

And then one final question, we have the ability to institute traffic calming and that would then lower the 85th percentile speed limit I assume. So we have some ability through our actions to get the results of the traffic survey lower right? Is that correct?

CommentMary DocktermanProposed · by introduction1:13:30 · ≈ 10:13 AM

Well, the board adopted traffic calming policy only applies to residential streets. Streets that have 25 mile per hour has a speed limit. The higher streets we're careful on what we do because we also don't want to lower the speeds for response times for emergency services so we don't want to put speed humps for say on our collector roads or arterials.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.831:13:54 · ≈ 10:13 AM

Okay thank you I didn't understand that and glad to know

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:14:00 · ≈ 10:14 AM

And I'm comfortable supporting this sort of, you guys do a great job. Supervisor Hartman's right that I brag about the responsiveness of your division to people all the time. It's pretty amazing. I think this is the best option under the law, but I do want to say that it is a frustrating law. The combination of state law and the court precedent puts a situation where Most of us don't really act rational when we drive. I mean, it's pretty well documented from a psychological case. It takes people who are normally family loving people and it makes them into willing to risk their own life and other peoples lives for saving mere seconds.

Dictate speed limits based on what the 85th percentile drives is sort of akin to having the prisoners run the prison, in my view. And so it's frustrating law to work with. And I'm sure it's frustrating for you and frustrating for our friends in the CHP as well. But so, I think this is just simply the best that you can do under those constraints and for that reason, I guess I'm supporting it as uncomfortable as it is. Supervisor Adam?

There is a motion, and a second? Second. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Item three.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:16:03 · ≈ 10:16 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, item number three is to the Board from the County Executive Office. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding their response to the 2017-18 grand jury report internal controls on the county of Santa Barbara.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed1:16:29 · ≈ 10:16 AM

Good morning, Mr. Chairman and members of the board. The item before you is as mentioned the response, proposed response, your board's response to the grand jury's report on internal controls in the county of Santa Barbara. You'll recall having seen the report that was published back in June, the end of June and the release report. The Board of Supervisors is named as responder to findings 1 through 11 as well as these 14 recommendations that are indicated here on this screen.

I'm prepared to go through each finding and response if a recommendation if that's what you like however if you would like a more Brief presentation, I'm happy to respond to any questions that your board might have on any specific finding or recommendation at your discretion.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:17:17 · ≈ 10:17 AM

I think given the importance to this institution and the grand jury that going through them is important under these circumstances.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed1:17:28 · ≈ 10:17 AM

Finding number one was that the Internal Audit Division of the County of Santa Barbara, our Controllers Office had a funded and filled staff of 10 FTE prior to the 2008 recession. And just prior to discovery in the 2017 fraud, funded staff had fallen to five FTE with only 2.5 FTE of those being filled. Our recommended response for your board is that your board agrees with this finding.

Finding number two, the financial management guidelines issued by the County of Santa Barbara Auto Controller are not applied consistently in operational departments nor is compliance with those guidelines routinely audited by the auto controller. I recommend a response for your board as the Board of Supervisors partially disagrees with this finding There is compliance monitoring by the Auto Controllers Office for contract compliance, credit card use, petty cash transactions, cash counts at cash handling locations.

Recognition 2A stated that the County Board of Supervisors directs staff to use a consistent application of financial guidelines issued by the Auto Controller's Office as part of the annual personnel management process Our proposed response to that is that the recommendation will be implemented as part of the annual review process for managers to ensure compliance with their staff in the next review period.

Currently, all staff are provided guidelines through FIN newsletters, fiscal updates, and the FIN News section on the Home tab when users log into the financial system. Updates to the FIN policies and procedures are highlighted on the FIN homepage when users log in, so they are aware of the latest changes. Finding number three in the report was that the knowledge of financial management and risks by managers in some departments in the County of Santa Barbara is insufficient.

Our proposed response for your consideration is that the Board of Supervisors partially disagrees with this finding It's unclear how manager's knowledge sufficiency or insufficiency is being defined as part of the report. However, we agree that improvements can be made in some areas. Recommendation 3A stated that the County of Santa Barbara Board of Supervisors direct staff to require training and financial management including county financial guidelines, FIN, and reporting accountability procedures for all department and program heads Our recommended response is the recommendation requires further analysis over the next six months to review the most effective type of training for department directors and leaders.

As a side note to that, this is something subject to your board's approval today that our office, the CEO's office as well as the auto controller will work on developing a subject matter and at the right level to provide to both managements in departments, program leaders and department directors. Recommendation 3B, that the County Board of Supervisors direct staff to make successful completion of this training a part of the staff evaluations.

And recommended response is that recommendation requires further analysis over the next six months in conjunction with determination of the type of training that will be offered as noted in recommendation three A. Finding number four was, is that the knowledge or potential conflicts of interest among some senior county of Santa Barbara employees is inadequate.

Proposed response is the Board of Supervisors disagrees partially with this finding. The county has adopted a conflict of interest code whereby senior employees are subject to the Fair Political Practices Certified Statement of Economic Interest, Form 700 on an annual basis and the form 700 requires potential conflicts of interests to be identified and declared.

Recommendation number four, that the Board of Supervisors develop procedures for the conduct of annual training on conflict of interest policy for all relevant categories of employees. Our proposed response is this recommendation will be implemented within the fiscal year. Procedures for annual training on conflict of interest will be developed and we are working on that now with our Human Resources Department Item number five is there's no consistent policy of requiring program heads, division heads or department heads within the Santa Barbara County Departments to account for spending under their control to their superiors and or the CEO through the annual formal and written statement.

Our proposed response for your board is that the Board of Supervisors disagrees wholly with this finding. All department heads, including elected officials along with each department's chief financial officer sign an annual fiscal year-end certification and representation letter Recommendation 5A from the grand jury was that the Center Barbara County Board of Supervisors direct all department heads, division heads, department heads to sign annual statements to their managers stating that all funds under their control have been managed in compliance with the county's financial management guidelines and the county's internal control policy.

Our recommended response is that the recommendation will not be implemented as it is not warranted. As fiscal year end certifications are already signed by department director and CFO, as well as quarterly budget updates provided to the board of supervisors. Finding number six, the jury found that the importance of the work of the internal audit division within the office of the audit controller and of the internal controls generally has a low priority across county government.

Our proposed response for your board is that the Board of Supervisors disagrees partially with this finding. Each year, the audit controller files their office's internal audit plan with the Board of Supervisors. The board receives periodic updates and reports on the work and findings in the Internal Audit Division in open session. And the board reviews these reports carefully.

Moving to recommendation number six, that the Board of Supervisors direct staff to incorporate performance measures into the budget process. To highlight the importance of internal controls for every department in county government Our proposed response is the recommendation will not be implemented. It's not warranted Budget performance measures cannot effectively measure or convey the importance of internal controls Instead reports to board by the Internal Audit Division pursuant to its internal audit plan are the best way to highlight this issue Final number seven It was stated by senior staff that a comprehensive investigation into the strengths and weaknesses of internal controls in the county would be conducted by an outside consultant after the fraud.

No such investigation took place. Our proposed response is that the Board of Supervisors disagrees wholly with this finding. The county hired a third party accounting firm to investigate and document the fraud. The same firm was engaged to provide an independent assessment of the county's existing budget and fiscal policies, and to identify additional potential policies.

Recommendation number seven, that the County Board of Supervisors direct staff to contract a complete independent evaluation of audit of internal controls including the issuance of an opinion on the effectiveness of such controls and their recommendations for improvement. Our proposed response is this recommendation will be implemented and it's in process as noted in response to finding seven.

Finding number eight The jury found that the actions taken by the Santa Barbara County Management in response to 2017 fraud and Department of Public Works were slow and inadequate. Our proposed response is the Board of Supervisors wholly disagrees with this finding. A thorough investigation was commenced immediately upon by the auto controller's office, staff upon the initial suspicion of the fraud. County management and staff work closely with the district attorney's office to provide all records documentation and evidence in support of their independent criminal investigation.

Recommendation number eight, that the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors direct staff to issue a public report stating the steps taken and their effective dates to strengthen public financial management in the county following the 2017 Department of Public Works fraud. Our proposed response is the recommendation has been implemented. The auto controller report to the board in March of 2018, it's revised internal control policies which include actions to strengthen and improve financial management by county departments.

Finding number nine The Financial Information Network is an insufficient and, I'm sorry, insufficient and inefficient system with many weaknesses that have caused most departments to create or have created complementary financial software. Some of the weaknesses in FIN may have contributed to the 2017 Department of Public Works fraud. Our proposed response is that the Board of Supervisors disagrees partially with this finding.

The FIN functions as designed and serves as a valuable tool for both financial operations, reporting and budget development and monitoring. Recognition 9A, the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors directs staff to commission an independent evaluation of the benefits and cost of acquiring, installing, and maintaining enterprise resource planning software from a major vendor.

The evaluation should be produced competitively, I'm sorry, be procured competitively and should exclude any firm or individual that has previously worked with the county to avoid conflicts of interest Compare major software options, analyze where such options have been used in governments of comparable size to the county. Present a full analysis of the cost and benefits of the current financial management software used in the auto controller's office and throughout the county government.

Give a proper comparison of the cost and benefits of enterprise resource planning software. Our proposed response is that the recommendation will be implemented within the next two fiscal years as part of the county's broader renewed 2022 efforts. The need to invest in improved and expanded technology was identified, in general, as an important strategy to position the county to provide key public services in a most cost-efficient and effective manner.

Recommendation 9B that the enterprise resource planning evaluation be presented in an open session of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors to allow public comment. Our recommended response is the recommendation will be implemented within the next two fiscal years as noted in 9A above, the results related to the potential implementation of an ERP system for the county would be considered at a regularly scheduled board of supervisors meeting and will provide the opportunity for public comment Recommendation 9C, that all Santa Barbara County staff using FIN or its eventual successor submit annual financial disclosure.

Our proposed response is the recommendation will not be implemented as all staff who are required by the Santa Barbara County single comprehensive conflict of interest code to submit annual financial disclosure statements form 700s of FPPC form 700 already do so Final number 10, the jury found that a minimum professional and academic qualifications for financial staff positions are not standardized nor consistent throughout departments in the county.

Our proposed response to the Board of Supervisors disagrees wholly with the finding. Financial job classifications have standard minimum qualifications. Applicants are screened to confirm they meet these qualifications as part of the hiring review process through the County Human Resources Department. Recommendation number 10, that policy throughout Santa Barbara County be standardized with respect to minimum academic and other professional qualifications of financial staff.

The recommended response is the recommendation will not be implemented as it's not warranted. Financial job classifications already have minimum qualifications that are standard throughout the county and staff are screened as those qualifications as part of the hiring review process through the county human resources department. Finally, finding number 11. Some Santa Barbara County staff commented that there might be significant other potential financial risks in Santa Barbara County including management of property tax reimbursements and warrant payments through the Sheriff's Civil Bureau.

The recommended response is the Board of Supervisors disagrees partially with this finding. The Treasurer, Tax Collector, Public Administrator's Office and the Sheriff's Office or the Auto Controller have not reported any potential risks in these areas. The Treasurer Task Lecture initiates property tax refunds for certain situations such as duplicate payments.

The TTC has internal controls to mitigate potential risks. Secondly, that the warrant payments issued by the Sheriff's Civil Bureau are processed through the FINS system. The warrants are generated by the civil management system then electronically sent to the Auto Controller's Office for processing. The Civil Bureau warrant process is developed with input and cooperation of the Auto Controller's Office.

Recommendation 11a of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors direct staff to commission an independent audit of the property tax reimbursements made through Santa Barbara County Assessor's Office during the past 10 years. Our proposed response is that the recommendation requires further analysis in consultation with the Audit Control's Internal Audit Division within the next six months.

Sufficient internal control measures are in place within the Treasurer Tax Selector's Public Administrator's Office to ensure property tax reimbursements are properly safeguarded. Reclamation 11B, that the Board of Supervisors direct staff to commission an independent audit of civil warrant payments made through the county sheriff's office during the past ten years.

Our post response is that a recommendation requires further analysis and consultation with the audit controller's internal audit division within the next six months. As explained in our response to finding number 11 above, sufficient internal review measures are in place within the Sheriff's Department to ensure the civil warrant payments are properly safeguarded but consultation with the internal audit will occur to determine whether this is warranted.

So finally it leads us to our recommendations today, which is to consider and adopt the responses contained in attachment A to the grand jury's report. Authorize the chair to sign the letter included in attachment A to the presiding judge of Santa Barbara County Superior Court and finally to make your CEQA findings. With that I'd be happy to respond any questions. We're also joined today by our auto patroller elect As well as I believe our department head for public works.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:33:21 · ≈ 10:33 AM

Any questions or comments from the board? Mr. Adder.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:33:27 · ≈ 10:33 AM

Well, you know particularly with respect to recommendation 3A and 5A You can't always catch people that are trying to rip you off. And I don't think any amount of training is necessarily, the human mind is an ingenious thing and no matter what safety precautions you put in place. There's always somebody that figures out a way to circumvent them. And I think we have to kind of go back and look at this situation where somebody had some keys that they probably shouldn't have had, and there's a bunch of procedures here that could probably be tightened up.

But I think a lot of people in the public Have the perception that Everybody here's got a way to reach into the till or something and and that's not the case so You know, I think some of these recommendations are Born of maybe a frustration that these events occurred without actually knowing what, or appreciating the safety procedures that are in place. Would I like to see an entire closed system accounting software that doesn't necessitate every department having their own accounting? Yeah, I would.

I don't know if it's in the cards financially for us because that would cost a prohibitive amount at this point cuz some of it just is what it is but I think people should always And I'm talking to the public here is it have a little bit of empathy for somebody who did get ripped off. I think that there was some Maybe an over trust placed in certain people that abuse that trust. And we should probably tighten up those procedures, but I don't think this is something that's endemic and I think we did generally a pretty good job so there's my comment.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:36:24 · ≈ 10:36 AM

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr Frapwell for compiling all of this. One thing I guess I'll start with finding number three and our response. This is on slide six. It says that the Board of Supervisors partially disagrees with this finding, which is knowledge of financial management and risk by managers in some departments in the county of Santa Barbara's insufficient. So we partially disagree with that finding.

But I found it interesting when I looked at the other departments, the DA, the auditor controller or the clerk, treasurer tax collector and the sheriff. They all agreed with that finding. And it seems, so if you could explain to me why we would partially disagree? Because it seems to me that we have all of these elected department heads that are saying that they agree with the finding from Not only that, but we are then taking steps to kind of cure that concern with training etc.

So can you explain how it is that we disagree with our own department heads?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed1:38:03 · ≈ 10:38 AM

Supervisor Wolf for the chair, good question. The attached, I believe it's attachment C are the responses from the other separately elected officials that were highlighted and referred to in the report. They largely speak for their own departments as opposed to the county as a whole. Your response, as we've drafted it is holistically to the county and I guess some of our questions are really semantics in the finding provided by the grand jury in that some departments.

It's very difficult for us to sit here and say some departments have sufficient knowledge and others don't. It's a very subjective statement by the grand jury and in our opinion, a little overreaching. At the same time we do acknowledge that there is improvement that we can make and our response to their recommendations I think reflect that. That we can do a better job ensuring across all departments and the different levels of management in those departments, we can do a better job. So I think that's, we took little exception to the semantics of the finding but acknowledge that we can do better.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:39:23 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Okay, I appreciate your response. I would only disagree in the fact that it seems that the auditor controller does have a more global reach than maybe some of the other departments but I appreciate your comments.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:39:41 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Supervisor Wolfe, I think you're on to something with 3A and 3B. And I think we may want to make a slight alteration. Maybe I'm just oversensitive because I have to sign it but to me I think the staff is right on substance but maybe a little off on tone that these documents always strike Slightly defensive and I think, I just strongly believe in the grand jury's mission. And that sometimes it's good when something went wrong to deal with it from a place of humility. And I would just say that maybe in the case of three, we should say partially agree and add the language to the recommendation. Intends to implement, but Mr. Guinezzone is probably going to throw cold water on the legal term of partially agree, partially

CommentHummel RoadProposed · by introduction1:40:49 · ≈ 10:40 AM

disagree. We've talked about this before. Essentially penal code section 933.05 provides a pull down menu of how you can begin these responses whether to findings or to recommendations. So, and it's awkwardly worded. And that's some of the tension that always comes out on this but as to a finding the board can has really two choices. It can agree That's one choice or it can disagree wholly or partially But it's not a free form just term that you can put back in likewise with recommended actions As you've been looking at the slides today Language that might seem awkward in to the public is pull down choices from section 933.05 save limited verbiage to put it at the front of these responses that said you could certainly add a comma and a but at the end of it.

Yeah,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed1:41:44 · ≈ 10:41 AM

I guess that throws cold water on my first point Instead of it beginning at the end of the sentence, or a separate sentence in the sentence that we intend to. I would summarize this document simply by saying that we disagree with maybe how scathing some of the points they've made are, but agree

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:42:25 · ≈ 10:42 AM

That I would just say that maybe the quick layperson's summary of this document would be that we disagree with how scathing some of the points are, that the grand jury makes. But agree with most of the recommendations and- I don't.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.891:42:47 · ≈ 10:42 AM

Supervisor Lavinia? I think before we make a statement of what we all I've got a problem with this report because it's not that it's scathing, but that it's wrong. I mean 5, 7, 8 and 10 are flat out wrong. The fact that we don't have minimum qualifications, we do. The fact that, I think we all have to be cognizant to where other circumstances involved while this investigation was going on.

Okay? So you can't look at this thing in a vacuum and that there's no policy for requiring our department heads to account for their spending wrong. That there was no investigation that took place after the fraud, wrong. That it was slow and inadequate, wrong. And that number ten That there are no minimum professional and academic qualifications for financial staff positions. So I don't find it scathing, I think when we do something wrong we have to be held accountable but you also have to get your facts straight and just because it's the grand jury doesn't mean they're infallible.

And they obviously had somebody that they were listening to that had some sort of an ax to grind. But I'm very curious about how they went about their investigation if ours was inadequate You had one senior staff person that had a problem, went in and spilled their guts. And it looks like they wrote the report. So usually I side with the grand jury. I think they normally do really good work. I found their investigation lacking. That's my finding.

And yes, there was an issue. It's been dealt with I think in the proper manner but to say that the entire system is fraught with fraud and there's all these other opportunities okay then how come in the 30 year history We haven't seen this, you know. This was an isolated instance and I find these findings most of them wholly. I'm glad that we wholly disagree with them so I don't really care what tone were taking because I think the investigation was flawed and that's my input.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:45:13 · ≈ 10:45 AM

I agree with those points too. And in agreeing with Supervisor Wolf, I believe I cut her off. So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:45:21 · ≈ 10:45 AM

please go back here. Well and to Supervisor Labagnino's point, That the comments and responses were wholly disagreeing with the findings, especially when it related to what we did as a county in investigating. So I agree, it almost seems like that the grand jury report on one hand focused on that fraud issue but then on the other hand they went into fin and internal controls so But so I think that, like the question I asked was at the very beginning of the grand jury report and our response. Just it's, I brought it up because it just differed so much from our department heads and Why that was the case.

So I think if we could tweak maybe the response as Supervisor Williams said, I think that would be good. There was something else. Finding number six. Now, I did find this actually a little offensive. What the grand jury said, this is slide 13. That they found that the importance of the work of the internal audit division within the office of the auditor controller and of internal controls generally has a low priority across county government.

Well, I take that as, I would say I wholly disagree with that because The response is that we disagree partially. I think as a board, as a county, that is of primary importance to us and so I found that a little And I also believe that's not what we as a Board of Supervisors or a county believes. So, I would suggest specifically finding number six that we disagree wholly with that finding.

And then on finding number five, This is the whole issue going back to departments account for their spending under control of their superiors. And then we're saying that we wholly disagree with this finding, And many of the departments say that they partially disagree. Can you explain that, Mr. Frapwell? The discrepancy as well as you did when I asked you the first question. Why are responses different than some of our departments?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed1:48:28 · ≈ 10:48 AM

Thank you, Supervisor Wolf and through the Chair. Again I do think it's a matter of the responses provided by the elected officials being reflective of their operations as opposed to the county as a whole but recognizing your point about the auto controller obviously has broad reach across departments. But I do think that there are controls in place That are intended to hold department heads and their financial, key financial staff accountable for the operations of their organization. As well as the financial management of the resources that your board allocates them through the annual budget process.

And so they, I don't know. The annual report and certification they have to sign and go through is quite extensive. And we have to go through in our office with respect the budgets under our responsibility, and I can assure you that it goes into and looks at conflicts that are in departments. It looks at contracting, it looks at financial management within the appropriations allocated by your board. And so I do believe it is thorough and appropriate.

And so I think for that reason, our office took a little deviation from what the other department heads had mentioned in their response. Because we do believe that certification as well as we do quarterly reports to your board on financial performance of departments. Our office extensively works with departments throughout the year, watching and monitoring their financial performance as well as their contracts before they come to your board. So I think we have a number of issues in place or a number of processes in place that we are watching carefully and monitoring financial performance.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:50:16 · ≈ 10:50 AM

Okay and Mr. Chair if I could ask one more on finding number one about the auditor controllers, the staffing this is slide number three we agree with the finding The auditor controller and their response had a little bit more information in that they are stating where they are right now, that the numbers have increased. Do you think that's important for us as a board of supervisors to also include?

Those numbers for full-time employees has improved and yet we're not making a statement to that effect. And I think as a board, we should.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed1:51:02 · ≈ 10:51 AM

Supervisor Wolfe of the Chair in looking at the auto controller's response let me just make sure If I'm looking at this correctly, their response to finding number one was that the audit controller agrees with the finding. And their response to recommendation number one is the recommendation has been implemented and five funded staff positions in the internal audit division are currently filled. So I think this is factually correct as of today?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:51:43 · ≈ 10:51 AM

It is, okay.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed1:51:47 · ≈ 10:51 AM

As with any department, positions continue to ebb and flow and they become vacant for a number of reasons. And I think the department continues to place this as our priority to keep these positions filled. And so I'm confident they are focused on that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:52:06 · ≈ 10:52 AM

So they expanded upon the finding? The auditor did?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed1:52:14 · ≈ 10:52 AM

They expanded on the, they were required

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:52:17 · ≈ 10:52 AM

to respond recommendation number one. Right. So and we were not asked to respond as a recommendation? Correct. I got you okay so Mr. Chair if I could just if I was to make any change I would just do that the one change it from partially to wholly and I'm trying to find That was item- On three. Finding number six, that we disagree wholly with that finding.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:52:47 · ≈ 10:52 AM

So I will, oh, I see a couple other lines. Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.831:52:52 · ≈ 10:52 AM

Thank you Mr. Chair. A couple things I wanted to say. First of all, I had an opportunity to meet with the grand jury and those are people who are laboring in anonymity and working mightily on our behalf. And I'm very appreciative to all the people who serve on the grand jury and serve as a check on government. But I also want to thank Supervisor Adam, who's a special watchdog of county and county processes. And his validation that our county is indeed well managed financially.

Whenever it has to do with money it is a cat and mouse game. It's evolving and we always have to be improving our processes and we are now in fact doing that. I see a number of items in this that we are working on, and it's the next six months. And what I would like to propose is that we get a follow-on report of those items just so that we know indeed it has been implemented and we're doing all that we can from where we sit to monitor Followed through with what we said we were going to do and I'm sure we will but I just I'd like to have that be public for all of us. So Those are my comments, thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:54:14 · ≈ 10:54 AM

so my suggestion would be at that at the time that they come back with the With the report on systems and controls That's in the report. Is that an appropriate time to give us a status on though? The whole shebang

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:54:31 · ≈ 10:54 AM

Supervisors, I think we can come back with some kind of A item at least to tell you what we're doing on the follow up in six months. The systems item would come back probably at some later date.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:54:44 · ≈ 10:54 AM

Then I'll try to put this together in a motion that under 3A and 3B, we add that just to make the statement clear that we intend to implement the recommendation. Six, that we wholly disagree and to Supervisor Lavinia's point that in ten, the recommendation will not be implemented because it is already implemented. It is already in effect, maybe it's a better language to use. Mr. Gazzani?

CommentHummel RoadProposed · by introduction1:55:19 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Chair and Supervisors-

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:55:21 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Cold

CommentHummel RoadProposed · by introduction1:55:21 · ≈ 10:55 AM

water on the ladder one too. Just on the first part, it's under the pull down menu for recommendations out of section 933.5. Really your choices are it's been implemented, it has not been implemented or it will be implemented. And on recommendation three, excuse me, It went with the third category, which is requiring further analysis but will be implemented.

So I'd recommend just staying inside the lines of those. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:55:53 · ≈ 10:55 AM

thought you said that we can add language to the end of the statement that is English as opposed to the pull down menu from statute?

CommentHummel RoadProposed · by introduction1:56:03 · ≈ 10:56 AM

Yes, I did. But I think that the key words at the beginning are the three choices of has been implemented, has not been implemented or requires further analysis. But if you wanted to say start off with requires further analysis but add the plain English after that but it's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:56:21 · ≈ 10:56 AM

important to the board and- My understanding is we intend to implement if we just are requiring analysis about how we're going to implement that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:56:28 · ≈ 10:56 AM

Chair Williams, you're absolutely correct. So my recommendation would be at the end of that sentence. Recommendation requires further analysis over the next six months to review the most effective type of training for department directors and their leaders. Staff intends to implement the recommendation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:56:44 · ≈ 10:56 AM

And that would be fine? Great. How about that? Okay. That is my motion clear as mud. Is there a second? All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Thank you. We are going to go to closed session. Can you give us an idea on how long that will

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CommentHummel RoadProposed · by introduction1:57:12 · ≈ 10:57 AM

be? Chair and supervisors, my estimate is between an hour and an hour and 15 minutes. The board today has agendized to consider two cases of significant exposure to civil litigation. One matter of deciding whether to initiate civil litigation as well as public employee appointments or reappointments for Agricultural Commissioner, Human Resources Director, Planning and Development Director. And again, my estimate is slightly more than one hour.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:57:40 · ≈ 10:57 AM

Thank you.

CommentHummel RoadProposed · by introduction1:57:40 · ≈ 10:57 AM

So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:57:41 · ≈ 10:57 AM

the public will see us at that time. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed2:28:59 · ≈ 11:28 AM

Yeah. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed2:30:38 · ≈ 11:30 AM

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed2:35:15 · ≈ 11:35 AM

Thank you. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed2:41:14 · ≈ 11:41 AM

Peace. Thank you. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed2:51:09 · ≈ 11:51 AM

Thank you. Not a zero.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed3:29:30 · ≈ 12:29 PM

And we already did that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:29:44 · ≈ 12:29 PM

Every day is a new day.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:30:32 · ≈ 12:30 PM

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:30:33 · ≈ 12:30 PM

actually red. Report from closed session.

CommentHummel RoadProposed · by introduction3:30:42 · ≈ 12:30 PM

Chair and supervisors, today in closed session the board considered two matters of significant exposure to civil litigation. One matter of deciding whether to initiate civil litigation as well as public employee appointments or reappointments for agricultural commissioner, human resources director, planning and development director, and fire chief. There is one reportable action as to public employee appointment.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:31:06 · ≈ 12:31 PM

Chair Williams and Supervisors, today the Board approved the selection for the Interim Fire Chief of Michael Dyer. He was our former fire chief from 2009 to 2015. He's agreed to return as we conduct our search for the permanent fire chief. He begins November 5th, which is the retirement date for Eric Peterson our current chief. He will be hired in extra higher capacity and hourly wage of $101.46 an hour without benefits. As you know Chief Peterson is retiring his last day in the office will be mid-October. You'll be presenting him with a resolution on October 16th so at that time we'll express our appreciation for him

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:31:46 · ≈ 12:31 PM

And before we adjourn, I have one other emergency item which is that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 23Proposed3:31:52 · ≈ 12:31 PM

Mike Allen's birthday. Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear clerk, happy birthday to you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:32:24 · ≈ 12:32 PM

I think I know what your wish is, Mike. Yes, that's right. That's right. Good reminder we do have one trailed item which is A13. Sorry to scare you there Scott. Can I get a motion on A13? So moved. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed and we will adjourn for October 2nd in Santa Barbara.