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you Yeah. ♪ I'll call this meeting to order. Roll call please.
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Ms. Hartman?
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Can I get a motion on the minutes of October 9th?
So moved. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? And we will take one thing out of order, which is the CEO's report. We will do that after the resolutions. So I have a number of resolutions. Let's do those as a motion. Then let's do the balance of the agenda as a motion. Or actually, we can pass the whole A agenda at once if there's no request to speak.
No requests to speak for me? Can I get a motion for the entire A agenda? All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? It's unanimous but we will hear A21 through A24 so let's start with the main event.
Chair Williams, members of the board. We have four resolutions to present this morning. Our first is A21. This is sponsored by all five members of the board. It's a resolution honoring Chief Eric Peterson upon his retirement from the fire department after 31 years of faithful and distinguished service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County. If Chief Peterson could come up to the podium?
I'll read the resolution into the record. Whereas Fire Chief Eric Peterson has served the residents of the County of Santa Barbara for 31 years. Working as firefighter, engineer, captain, president of the firefighters local 2046, training battalion chief, operations battalion chief, fire marshal, deputy fire chief and fire chief. And whereas Chief Peterson was born and raised in Santa Barbara County, growing up on West Camino Cielo. Which helped develop his unique and personal perspective on the threats facing the Santa Barbara County front country.
And Chief Peterson is a second generation firefighter following his father Rich Peterson who was the fire chief of the Santa Barbara City and Santa Barbara County Fire. And whereas Chief Peterson is a veteran of the Painted Cave, Zaka has acceded to Tee, Gap, Sherpa, Alamo, Ray, Whittier, Thomas and Holiday Fires. And led the department through the challenges of the refugial oil spill and the Montecito debris flow providing exemplary leadership and compassion.
And whereas during his tenure, Chief Peterson was responsible for technological and safety upgrades. Increasing situational awareness and operational effectiveness by utilizing software for defensible space inspections, mapping and resource tracking. And Chief Peterson helped develop the Santa Barbara County Operational Area Incident Management Team 3 that helps secure private grant funding for incident management trailer.
And whereas Chief Peterson excelled in maintaining relationships and influence at the federal, state and local levels including serving on the board of directors for FireScope, County Fire Chiefs Association and a number of firefight alliance. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors of Santa Barbara County honors fire chief Eric L. Peterson on the occasion of his retirement commending his superior record and dedicated highly effective fire service and protection extending a sincere gratitude and appreciation of the public passing adopted today.
Chair Williams, board members and CEO Miyasato. It has been such an honor to work with you. I thank you for the support and the trust you have given me and our fire department. You've helped us create an amazingly successful organization that has evolved in a way to meet the unique threats presented by our beautiful but disaster-prone county. The women and men who work for our fire department are the best in the business, they're highly trained and well equipped, and we have great relationships with other op area agencies.
These relationships will be critical in meeting future threats in a unified fashion. These last four years have been the busiest I can remember in my 31 plus years working for this agency. Our people have repeatedly overcome every challenge we have thrown at them and I could not be more proud of our firefighters, my management team and our administrative support staff.
We've been through a lot together. The catastrophes we have dealt with have at times taken a personal toll on many of us, myself included. And I cannot imagine going through these trying events with a finer group of people than all of you. I owe a huge debt to my family, my friends and the retired firefighters whose shoulders I'm standing on. I've been extraordinarily lucky to work with people so dedicated to the public good and I will always be deeply grateful for this opportunity to be your fire chief. Thank you very much
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A22.
Chair Williams, members of the board our next resolution sponsored by Supervisor Williams is a resolution reclaiming the week of October 23rd through 31 2018 as Red Ribbon Week in Santa Barbara County and Selena Rockwell Selena and Adriana Alamzon and Ed Stonefelt Come on up to the podium, and I will read the resolution into the record.
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Ed with you today?
Or is he- No, Ed's not here
today. Okay. Whereas Red Ribbon Week is the longest running nationwide campaign for drug abuse prevention and education promoting healthy drug free lifestyles. And whereas this annual effort during the last week of October by the Friday Night Live program offers students the opportunity to demonstrate their commitment to drug free lifestyles by promoting visible unified prevention in education efforts.
And whereas, California Friday Night Live was developed in 1984 as a statewide model program to reduce alcohol use and other problems among young people by building partnerships for positive and healthy youth development. It engages youth as active leaders and resources in their communities. And whereas the Council on Alcoholism and Drug Abuse has hosted the Santa Barbara County Friday Night Live since 1986 to provide local students leadership opportunities to prevent the use and abuse of alcohol, tobacco, and other drugs.
And whereas schools, government agencies, law enforcement, Religious institutions, service organizations, families and youth will demonstrate their commitment to healthy drug-free lifestyles through school and community campaigns. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that the Board of Supervisors proclaims the week of October 23rd through 31st as Red Ribbon Week in Santa Barbara County and encourages all residents to support and participate in alcohol and other drug prevention activities to celebrate this year's theme. Life is your journey, travel drug free. Asked and adopted today.
Sorry, I'm a little short. Thank you so much Board of Supervisors for this recognition to our students. They work really hard year round to develop their leadership skills and to make a positive influence in the community. I just want to also let you know that the Council of Alcoholism and Drug Abuse in Santa Barbara County has held the Fred and Olive contract since 1986, since it was first brought to our county. And so our students have continuously shown that working and giving back to their community and civic engagement is a huge responsibility and they want a piece of it. So thank you so much.
Thank you, my name is Celina Rockwell and I'm the director of our CAIDA's Youth Services. And we provide prevention education in schools throughout the county so both North County to South County. And so next week is red ribbon week. Don't have my red on today but next Wednesday will be Red Ribbon, we call it Wear Red Day, so there'll be a lot more red. We also have a town hall that's taking place in Goleta. So a town hall for parents and teens, so you're all welcome to that.
Next Wednesday night at the Goleta Community Center. And just want to say thank you so much for your support because we do a lot of different activities to provide education, awareness for youth to prevent the risks associated with drugs and alcohol. In addition, we really promote healthy lifestyle. What Adriana just shared about Friday Night Live, A leadership club that happens in all the schools where kids really make the difference for their peers. So they're the ones that are really stepping up and doing a lot, so just really appreciate all of your support, so thanks so much.
Before we go on to A23, I'd like to... Sometimes we are visited by VIPs at the Board of Supervisors and Supervisor Labanino has brought a real VIP with him today. I do have a VIP.
They don't get any more VIP than your mom. So my mom is visiting from Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. Mom if you would stand up? Yeah! Thanks for being here darling. I'm in trouble.
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A23. Chair Williams, members of the board, our next resolution, A23 is sponsored by Supervisor Williams. This is a resolution recognizing the second Monday of October as Indigenous Peoples Day in Santa Barbara County and we have a group here to receive this. Robert Ornstein, Barbara Savage, Kenneth Kahn you guys can all come up to the podium please? Come on up, Michael Cordero, Reverend Julia Hamilton, Art Cisneros.
Everybody come on up and I will read the resolution into the record. Whereas 26 years ago, the first Indigenous Peoples Day resolution and proclamation was set forth following the International NGO Conference on Discrimination Against Indigenous Populations in the Americas as part of the 1977 United States Geneva Conference. Where more than 100 native representatives gave voice to the experiences of their people before an international audience. And whereas the Chumash were the first residents of the Santa Barbara region inhabiting California's central coast from time immemorial. And whereas, the county of Santa Barbara recognizes indigenous people as valuable members of our local community who contribute greatly to the area's vibrant culture, rich history, local economy, strong workforce, creative arts, philanthropic efforts and diverse social landscape.
And whereas the County of Santa Barbara gladly joins multiple counties and cities nationwide to recognize Indigenous Peoples Day as a day to honor, celebrate and support indigenous peoples. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors hereby adopts this resolution recognizing the second Monday of October as Indigenous People's Day in the county of Santa Barbara passing adopted by the board today.
Good morning. Speaking on behalf of the Tribal Trust Foundation, my children, your children rather, my grandchildren and future generations I want to thank you because this is really about reconciliation and giving our community opportunity to unite and heal and move forward in celebration so I want to thank you again.
Good morning, Chairman of the Board, Supervisors. I am Samala Chumash from Santa Ynez. As you can tell, I'm also a student of our language. It gives me great pleasure to be here today and we really appreciate your support when it comes to Indigenous Peoples Day, recognizing the second Monday in October. You know there's so much history here with the Chumash over 10,000 years and so for us to be able to have a day and be recognized not only the Chumash in the area but all of indigenous people within Santa Barbara County It certainly is a proud moment for us. We appreciate the support and the recognition, so thank you so much.
Good morning, thank you very much. I'd like to express my appreciation to Doss Williams and the rest of the supervisors for this historic resolution. I am Michael Cordero. I'm a member of and past chair of the Coastal Band of the Chumash Nation. Our current chair would have liked to have been here today but he's recovering from surgery so he could not make it.
Again, I would like to thank you for this resolution. And on behalf of the Coastal Band of the Chumash Nation who we have members that live throughout the tri-counties but Primarily in Santa Barbara. We recognize the importance of this and how it will help give us an opportunity to educate more on the effects of the past, so hopefully this will bring us forward. Thank you.
Good morning. My name is Art Cisneros, my spiritual name would translate to earth man with a good heart. It is with my open heart and my good heart that I give so much gratitude to each of you for acknowledging the presence of the first people number one And the beginning of a process that I believe will help us all to resolve some of the unseen conflict that affects us all. Manifests itself in some bad behavior on occasion, which we've recently experienced when there was a misunderstanding about our belief systems and about what we hold important.
I just wanted to remind everyone in this moment that it is with an open heart that we begin the communication for resolving our differences, for bringing light to some misunderstandings that may have occasioned some bad behavior in the past. We are now in the moment where we can heal, and so thank you. Thank you so much for this opportunity to help heal our community, all of us from all that unnecessary misunderstandings in the past. May it please you.
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Good morning, I'm the Reverend Julia Hamilton, Minister at the Unitarian Society and a member of Clergy and Laity United for Economic Justice. And I just wanted to say as a member of the faith community here that we have our own work to do in the faith communities towards this healing and reconciliation. And I think it's important to remember that all of us have work to do, that honoring and recognizing the first peoples here in this land is an important step.
And opening the door to further understanding our history so that we can come together in positive ways. But we can't do it without being transparent and honest with our past, so thank you so very much for taking this important step and we hope to work together onwards into the future, into a better future together.
Supervisor Hartman.
Thank you, I know there are many different educational and interpretive activities throughout our county but I just wanted to ask Chairman Kahn before he leaves, Chairman Kahn if you could give us an update about the museum in Santa Ynez?
Well, we are very proud to announce that we will be breaking ground at the end of this month on a beautiful museum and cultural center. And so we're going to be having a press event on the 22nd, so I'm letting it out of the bag. So you're calling me out, Supervisor! But I'm glad and I'm proud that you can share that pride for the third district and for Santa Barbara County. Certainly will be an opportunity for us to share amongst communities about the Chumash and the tribes throughout this nation, and also be able to have a common place. So thank you, and we look forward to sharing more in the near future.
A24
Chair Williams, members of the board. Our final resolution is sponsored by Supervisor Wolfe. This is a resolution accommodation honoring Patricia Jones for her decades of service and dedication to the Santa Barbara County Assessment Appeals Board as the second district appointee. Pat if you could come on up to the podium? I will read the resolution into the record.
Whereas on October 15, 1973 Pat Jones was appointed as an original member to the Assessment Appeals Board and was subsequently reappointed by Supervisors Slater, Wallace, Rogers, Graffy, Rose, and Wolfe. And whereas On October 15, 2018 denotes Pat's 45th year of service and designates her as the longest serving member of the Assessment Appeals Board. As well as the longest continuous serving member on any county board commission or committee.
And whereas during her tenure, Pat has served on some of the most complex assessment appeals cases including the Exxon and Rancho Goleta Mobile Home Park cases both of which had profound implications for both the applicants and the county. Now is known for attention to detail in our insightful questions about applicants and assessor staff during often contentious hearings.
And whereas Pat also served for the city of Santa Barbara on the Energy and Resource Management Committee. In addition to serving on city and county boards, Pat's also been a board member on a multitude of non-profit and service organizations including Girls Inc., AAUW, Goleta Valley Land Trust, Santa Barbara Women Lawyers, Phoenix Santa Barbara, and Santa Barbara Village. This is just to name a few.
And whereas Pat worked as a certified public accountant for almost six decades for firms in Atlanta and in Santa Barbara, became his sole proprietor in 1974. Pat also worked for the county auditor's office for several years, ran for auditor in 1990 coming within less than a percentage point of winning. And whereas in addition to her extensive professional and community activities, Pat raised two sons. Remains active in her church and contributes her expertise to the Vista Del Monte Retirement Home.
Now therefore it be hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors congratulates Pat Jones for his decades of service to and within the county of Santa Barbara spanning five decades passed and adopted today.
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picture. I have more friends here than us. To say something? Yeah. Thanks so much. You're so sweet. Thank you. Congratulations. It's great to be here, congratulations. I didn't know I was going to be allowed to say anything but as Janet knows, I'm never lost for words. I need to say first of all thank you so much this was such a terrific honor and Mary O'Gorman did such a nice job of reducing my three pages of bio into a few paragraphs.
I've had a wonderful interesting giving back life and I especially like I want to say thank you for the opportunity to be on the assessment appeals board. I've told Janet at her breakfast that she has for appointees several times it was more challenging to me than anything I ever did as a CPA and I think I'm particularly proud of our results with the Exxon case local appeals board, I mean the Superior Court. It finally did result in the Board of Supervisors agreeing to a settlement that was very close to the numbers that we came to and if we had two three lay people An attorney, an appraiser and myself spent about 40 hours in hearings. And about 35 hours in deliberations to come up with a result between $100 million on one hand.
You can guess that's Exxon and 700 million on the side of the county. And we came up with something like 650 million, and they agreed to something close to that. So I'm very proud of that and many of the other things that we did as assessment appeals board and The current sitting board came today. I didn't invite people to come, I didn't know it was supposed to be a public thing.
The only person here is my son in the blue shirt over there. He's another one of my prides. He happens to have some of his designs on Mars so I call him my rocket scientist son Thank you so much. There are so many more things I could say in appreciation, particularly for the assessor's office. They have really made great strides in the last few years and bringing to the board many settled cases. We hardly are worth the money you pay us to come here and approve stipulations because they do such a good job. And then also I guess I'm showing my age, my wonderful thought that just escaped me. Someone else I wanted to really express appreciation for in the county. Really all of you, I think you do a good job and particularly the assessor's office lately I think have been a credit to you.
Oh, I know what the new thought is. One plea I have for you is that I am the last CPA sitting on the board Trent Benedetti resigned recently. So that's one thing you fellas need and ladies need to think about because I think there have been times when I served on the board that I felt useful Thank you again.
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CEO's report.
Thank you, Chair Williams and board members. We just wanted to give you a quick update of a couple of public meetings we're having next week. We are beginning the winter season and looking at storm preparedness particularly in the areas affected by the Thomas fire so I have OEM Director Rob Lewin giving a quick update.
Thank you Ms. Miyasato, Chair and Board of Supervisors we do want to give you a short briefing on storm readiness activities and as you all are well aware it still remains that we have vulnerable burn areas that could cause debris flows so some of the things that we're doing we have community meetings planned We are meeting with school officials at meetings all of the superintendents and principals to ensure that schools are prepared for this winter We've been meeting regularly with our allied agencies within other jurisdictions and county agencies as well as with the utility companies.
We have a scientist symposium, it'll be our second one we had on April 30th and we'll have another one to see what work they have been doing throughout the summer looking at our debris flows and some of the things that we can learn from them. We have had several sheltering meetings with public health, social services and behavioral wellness in Red Cross. We've been and continue to meet with the media to ensure that they're ready to do public outreach with us.
And again we continue to meet with our volunteer organizations particularly using the VOAD umbrella voluntary organizations to assist in disasters. These are the two meetings that are scheduled for the community. The Montecito Union School on the 25th at 530, and then in Carpinteria on the 29th at 530 at the Veterans Memorial Building. Okay so we do have some new information about what will be the thresholds that will bring the storm risk decision team together to determine whether action needs to be taken by the public The new threshold may draw your attention to the one-hour rain intensity rate. So if we get a storm that is predicted to be 0.8 inches in one hour, that will bring the Storm Risk Team together to do an evaluation on taking actions.
As you can see, the Whittier Fire has had more growth on it and so that threshold is a little bit higher. But those two burn areas are the ones of concern. Our flood control agency, the engineers believe that the Alamo is now unless we have some kind of storm of real significance is no longer a threat to their community. So we have spent a lot of time reviewing last year's risk map. And some of the things that have been done is, we brought together all of the operations staff from all the fire departments, the police and sheriff's departments, our flood control folks both from the cities and our staff, and they have all met and reviewed the map and they've done some good work which I'm going to show you in a moment on drilling down at the parcel level.
We have also now have a contract using FEMA and county funds with a very reputable engineering company that is reviewing the overall map to see if there's any changes that are required either to add or remove areas that could be impacted by debris flow. That process will be done in November, so the current map that we're using is essentially the same map That we used last winter. However, as you can see from this image when people put in their address now it will actually identify the parcel that they live on and they can see if their parcel is in a risk area.
And so we have a new in our quest, and you can still hear more about this during the after action review later. One of your board items that one of the lessons we learned last year is how do we make sure that the public has easy to understand messaging? So we are leveraging a method that's used for wildfires which is ready set go. That has been around for over a dozen years and so what we'll do now is between 72 and 48 hours We will get the public ready by giving them a weather advisory that there may be an approaching storm at 48 to 24 hours. We will tell them to get set, to leave, to prepare to leave by issuing an evacuation warning. That will be the term that we'll now use is evacuation warning and then finally within 24 hours or to the moment of the storm, we will issue a evacuation order which means go and go now.
So we also want to educate the public about something that we refer to now as a rogue storm. These are storms that come up quickly with little warning, sometimes will have as little as an hour 45 minutes to no time at all where a thunderstorm or some other type of rogue storm comes in and drops an intense amount of rainfall in a particular area these are very hard to predict So we want to prepare the community by having them be prepared, to make sure that they know what they will do if they do not have time to actually evacuate. Can they go to a neighbor's house that's on high ground next door or some other place quickly? Or can they shelter safely in their home?
And then finally, this is the brochure that we'll be handing out to the public. We intend to do door-to-door information sharing with the people that are in the risk area and here this document identifies their ready set go process as well as some information about rogue storms. We're available for any questions.
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Supervisor Hartman?
Thank you. This goes largely I guess to storms, rain. We are in red flag conditions today. I view that as kind of a ready warning. I keep my phone with me just in case there is an emergency but could you talk a little bit more about fire as well?
Through the Chair, Supervisor Hartman thank you for the pertinent question. We have actually had a lightbulb moment that when we issue a red flag, when the National Weather Service issues a red flag and we alert the community, we haven't been actually telling them what to do with that information so you've given me an opportunity here. What we want people to do when there is a red flag is we want them to get to that set mode that we were just talking about. We want them to be prepared Is their family prepared? Do they know where they would go if there was an approaching fire coming towards their home with little warning? Can they get out, do they have a safe place, are there safe refuge areas near them that they can get to?
Do they have flashlights in case there's loss of power readily available so they're not disoriented. Where will they go? Those kinds of questions. So when we tell people to have a plan, those are the types of things there's plenty of information ready set go information on the Santa Barbara County Fire Department web page and we encourage people to go there. Thank you
I just like to emphasize, you know bring your phone to the bedroom when you go to bed at night because if you need one of those warnings we'll get it otherwise it could be disastrous.
Thank you and I also just want to take the opportunity ask about the forecast today maybe you could let people know because it's on the news and but it's better to hear from the source. It's obviously red flag warning is there any Other precautions besides the take your to the set mode or is there any plans to do any depowering of lines?
Chair, thank you for the question. So we are in a red flag through the day today hopefully that will end tonight but we're of course working with the National Weather Service all the time they have conference calls daily with the fire department and with us that we attend to. The current situation is that the red flag is mostly in the mountains in eastern part of the county there is no plan for any public safety power shutdowns in Santa Barbara County And we've been in constant communication with Southern California Edison and Pacific Gas & Electric because this county has provided electricity by both. And at this point, they have no plans to shut down. We do know that that is occurring in Ventura County and many, many counties in Northern California.
Thank you Mr. Long.
Mr Chair?
Yes, Supervisor Wolf.
Thank you on that issue Mr. Lewin because it's not impacting our county right now but we know that with Santa Anas and Sundowners there may be a loss of electricity. Can you talk a little bit about our radio ready program so people know that is available in case all power goes out?
And through the Chair, Supervisor Wolf. Yes so if in fact we have a power outage caused by anything whether that's a plan shut down by the utility or by a fire or some other cause and we lose electricity and we lose cell coverage also the plan is to contact the radio stations that are identified in our Radio Ready Plan which are located on our website Through satellite telephone, they can call us and we can call them. And we will provide information to them so that they can put that on their programming immediately about what the public can do to take action to stay safe.
Thank you very much. So they would go to the, if you could just state the website.
Right so everything now if you go to readysbc.org you can sign up for alerts, you can look at our Radio Ready there's links to that and as well as look at storm readiness and other types of preparations for disasters.
Great, thank you so much. So just a reminder for people to get their battery-operated radios and or crank radios because or their car radios but that is a significant area and positive area for us to communicate. So thank you very much Mr. Lynn. That
cannot be understated we need to make sure everybody has flashlights and they have radios. And have them with them and when we issue red flag alerts that's when you really want to make sure all that's ready to go. Thank you
Of course I'll use the opportunity to ask people to sign up for our alert system on our website. Obviously a lot of locals have had issues with the federal WEA system alerts and its limitations, so please don't be dependent upon that. Sign up for our alerts. Public comment for items not on the agenda? Thank you Mr. Lewin.
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Chair Williams, members of the board we have five requests to speak for under public comment today. We're going to start with Keith Kaufman Gray to be followed by Jay.
Good morning, my name is Keith Kaufman Gray and I am president of Quilt Project Gold Coast. A recent surge in HIV infections in California has brought back HIV activists back to action this year. Quilt Project Gold Coast is a new non-profit making new AIDS memorial quilt panels to remember those we have lost and helping survivors cope with their loss. There is a new generation that needs to know that HIV-AIDS is not a disease that happened in the past. It is still here, infections are increasing and that there are ways to protect yourself from this disease.
October is LGBTQ History Month and also AIDS Awareness Month. Quilt Project Gold Coast wants to thank the County of Santa Barbara for allowing us to display four 12-foot by 12-foot quilt panels at the Santa Barbara County Courthouse Monday, October 22nd through Saturday, October 27th next week. Many of these panels are residents of the Gold Coast that have passed away from AIDS. They were made by NAMES Project Ventura County in the 1990s. It has been over 20 years since AIDS memorial quilts have been displayed at the Santa Barbara County Courthouse. Quilt Project Gold Coast invites you to visit this very moving exhibit in the Anacapa Gallery of the courthouse next Monday through Saturday through the 27th. Thank you very much, and I did bring out a brochure for all of you to have.
Thank you for your advocacy, Keith.
Our next speaker is Jay to be followed by Ed Kolaski.
Yes, good morning. My name is Jay Johnson and I'm currently houseless and I just want to know the status and a lot of people were asking me what is the law as far as uh I guess people call it camping out or illegal lodging? Is there um safe housing or anything going on right now? I don't know who
Typically we don't answer questions during public comment, but I do think it's appropriate to at least mention that the county is pursuing housing options. Of course many of that takes time. We have pursued federal funding that requires that it be used for housing within the next year and a half or two years. And as far as the camping out question, I would refer that to the County Council if he cares to comment.
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right thank you all pass along. All right thank you have a good day.
Ed Kolaski followed by Bob Hart
Thank you. I call my talk again, I cannot remodel my house because of our supervisor and this has nothing to do with guidelines. They claim that our second story is solely over the garage when it's over the garage kitchen in the dining room you can see it up there outlined in red We did everything the board requested. At the fourth meeting, they requested that we not locate it solely over the garage so we expanded it by 300 square feet and we got kicked out in the first 15 seconds.
We didn't get a chance to say a word. They had a member of Dillon jump up and scream at us You know, I have a custom too as the Chumash was here which I hold very dear and it's called civil rights. We had no civil rights. We were kicked out of the meeting, a meeting that I paid for, a meeting that's a public meeting, A meeting that is required by the county.
That is not civil rights being kicked out Still, almost five years later nobody has explained to me how is that solely over the garage? You know in their 64 page report this is what they show for the overlay. How in the world are you supposed to interpret that as being solely over the garage? That's the south and east versions of our remodel. I just get so unbelievable In their summary report they referred to this figure as being solely over the garage.
You know we had our supervisor here make a few comments after four and a half years and 44 talks, and she was concerned that I was berating the chairman of the Board of Architectural Review She has no idea that I've been here complaining about the illegal actions of the Board of Architectural Review over and over again. And nobody does anything. You know, I put an email out recently to our neighborhood saying what's the difference between a dictatorship and the second district?
in Santa Barbara and you know not a single person said that there was any difference. They all, you know you got a few people who said well hey you know what Ed we can help you uh we'll do it for free. We got the people that said well they're basically all crooks and corrupt and don't even bother with them just give up on it And you got the other people that are very sympathetic, and then you've got the group that says oh I want a remodel too.
Can I go before the Board of Architectural Review and get approval by myself? Mr. Kolaski thank you. Thank you.
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Next speaker is Bob Hart then we're going to go to Santa Maria for Mr. Caldwell
Good morning Chair Williams and Supervisors, I'm Bob Hart. I am here today representing the Board of Directors of the Coastal Housing Partnership. And I'm coming from a different perspective than some other speakers. I'm here to praise you for doing a wonderful thing for the community. Coastal Housing Partnership has existed for about 30 years to help employers retain and recruit quality people by helping them into home ownership.
And as a large employer, the county pays $12,900 a year as an investment into Coastal Housing Partnership and I just want to let you know what the results of your 12,900 is. We had 68-of-year employees purchase homes in the last year With an average savings to them of $4,000 through our program. A net of $272,000 in homeowner benefits to your employees. We have 13 of your employees refinance homes with an average savings of $500 for a total of 6,500. We also have a rental assistance program. We have home buying fairs and things to help educate your employees about the benefit of homeownership. As a matter of fact, our next home buying fair will be tomorrow.
from five to seven at Decker's, at Hollister and Los Caneros in Goleta. So we encourage all county employees to come out who are not yet homeowners who want to learn more about that process. We would like help with that education let them know about the things available to you to them and lets you know that the county has saved their employee members over a quarter of a million dollars off a twelve thousand nine hundred dollar investment so I applaud you for that keep up the good work thanks
To Santa Maria for Mr. Caldwell is our final speaker.
Chair Williams, members of the board, I'm Andy Caldwell representing CoLab. On your departmental agenda today you have this issue of the Tijuco Resource Recovery Project. I kind of wanted to talk with you about a historical perspective and that is it One time, oil was considered a waste product. It was a nuisance. If it was found daylighting in areas, cows had problems with it, other critters had problems with it, you couldn't farm it, it was considered a waste product and lo and behold by means of technology and innovation That waste product became a source of energy.
But we seem to take that for granted now, thinking that we were geniuses trying to think of how to convert a waste product energy. The other historical thing I wanted to mention is that the lagoon at UCSB was actually a mining pit that they used to mine asphalt there And that too was considered a waste product. It wasn't good soil to grow anything on, and yet for a long time they converted that to a form of energy. And before there was an asphalt plant there, there was a whaling station there.
And one could easily make the argument that asphaltum helped save the whales, and oil helped save us from asphaltum which didn't burn very clearly or cleanly. The other principle I wanted to talk to you about historically speaking is when the Board of Supervisors is spending general fund money There's lots of contention, lots of debate and lots of deliberation.
But when you're spending state and federal money and or your spending fees not so much. I remember how painful it was for over 20 years waiting for the board to pull the trigger on building a new North County jail which of course over that period of time quadrupled in cost And how much reticence, reluctance and hand wringing there was building something that was absolutely essential for the public.
Even then when the state was sharing in it. But later on today you have a project that's going to cost a quarter of a billion dollars. And I'm wondering did you even ever send out a notice? To the rate payers as to whether or not they thought it was a good idea. Thank you.
That concludes public comment.
Mr.
Cassani?
Chair and Supervisors, I just wanted to mention that following Mr. Johnson's comment asking housing questions he has been in touch now with both the Community Services Department as well as we have a lucky bounce today that United Way is in the audience and working with them offline.
Great, and I was neglected to mention that there are shelter opportunities. Unfortunately they are only during inclement weather which is something tragic but there are also permanent housing opportunities in the city and the county as both entities are attempting Build more permanent supportive housing. So thank Mr. Johnson for bringing that up, and thank United Way for being here today.
Let's go to D1.
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Chair Williams, members of the board, our first departmental item today is from public health. It's to consider recommendations regarding a waiver of retirement exclusion for David Brumman, Environmental Health Specialist for Environmental Health Services.
Good morning. I'm here to ask for your support in allowing the department to bring back David Brumman, recently retired as extra help during the month of November to provide some oversight, some training and some mentoring while Larry Fay is out of the office.
Any questions from board? Supervisor Lavenina. I'll move aside.
Is there a second? I don't like anybody here, but you know it seems like we should be planning for these and we should have been training somebody. Right? We knew Mr. Brougham was going to retire and we know that Mr. Fay is at some point gonna go on vacation so it should be anticipated that we gotta have someone to fill those spots right?
Yes, Supervisor through the Chair. Absolutely in the best world scenario but David's announcement that he would retire was fairly quick and it's a technical field. Technical services is highly critical in our department and we actually just offered the position for his replacement to someone that's internal. So Jason will be starting, but even though Jason has been with our department since 2013. He needs that extra four weeks of mentoring while Larry's away and I just, Larry is an amazing environmental health supervisor- Agreed. Services director so I couldn't exactly deny him of his long awaited vacation with his wife.
Right, I think given Current stature, he may vacate his position if you did that. But I think that would be a bad idea. So my point is we should be anticipating and having... We have these frequently where we try to bring back somebody from retirement and I'm not sure that we're not overusing that. I'm not ready to say no but I think everybody should be planning a little better
Yes, I understand your concern and succession planning is something that worries me. And it's something that the department works on.
Supervisors, if I might? Supervisor to the Chair, I agree with you, Supervisor Adam. We've had this discussion. We'll be reminding the department heads at our next department head meeting about looking other ways we can fill these voids when they're necessary. We come to you, we look at these carefully because Pepper was put in place for a reason, and these are coming to your board as a discussion item for a
reason. Notwithstanding PEPRA I'm not trying to complain about somebody trying to spike their pension because I don't think that's what is going on here but just as a managerial imperative I think we should have people stacked up that can take over. In a real world scenario, if you need somebody to be in that position then we better be recruiting people at an adequate rate to get enough backup so that if somebody... People have all kinds of personal emergencies, accidents.
You know, we have to have contingencies. You have to be there to do those things that Mr. Fay engages in and so there should be some nominal backup every day.
We'll continue to work on that. I'm sorry, I brought up PEPRA because the PEPRA law changed so that we do provide, the law requires that we bring these to you as a discussion item if we're going to be bringing people back shortly after they retire.
Okay, so second?
And I appreciate your warning shot across the bow, and I agree with it. They're obviously not all coming from your department but we should remind department heads to use this infrequently. Great. Thank you. Is there public comment on this item?
No request to speak.
Then there's a motion and a second. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Let's move on to D2.
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Chair Williams, members of the board, item two. Assembly Treasurer Tax Collector. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Tejiguas Resource Recovery Project financing.
Please proceed and just note, I'll be gone for the first 30 seconds for coffee but I'll be right back. And we can hear you in the hall.
Well then I'll start with good morning Mr. Chair and board members. I'm Jennifer Christensen, the Chief Investment Officer for the county and here on behalf of the Treasurer Tax Collector. We're here to request that the Board of Supervisors hold a public hearing in accordance with the Tax Equity and Equity Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 also known as a TEFRA hearing and approve a public financing for the primary purpose of the design acquisition and construction of improvements Under section 147F of the Internal Revenue Code, there's a process for a qualified issuer to access the municipal market. In this case, the county will be holding this TEFR hearing in an amount not to exceed $180 million to fund the construction of an anaerobic digester, a materials recovery facility, related landfill closure costs, landfill gas engines and certain storm water improvements.
To be clear, the county's general fund is not obligated to pay the debt service. That is the way this financing has been structured. Repayment of the debt will be secured by revenues as a solid waste system. Included in the board's materials is a resolution authorizing the necessary bond documents and establishing certain key parameters for the financing, including an aggregate principal amount not to exceed $180 million. A term not to exceed 25 years, a true interest cost not to exceed 5.5%, and an underwriting discount not to exceed 0.5%.
I have here with me today Melissa Schick from K&N, who's been serving as our financial advisor on this project financing on behalf of the county for the last several years. We also have a very hardworking team of solid waste professionals including Mark Schleich and Leslie Wells who are here with me today. In addition, I want to acknowledge the larger team contributions made by County Council, Auditor Controller, Planning Development and the County Executive Office.
With that, I would ask if the board has any questions that we can address and open it up to your questions.
Questions from the board? Request to speak.
We have one request to speak. We're going to go to Senator Ria for Mr. Caldwell.
Chair Williams, members of the Board, Andy Caldwell representing COLAB. We've never been against this project because we don't think that we should put all our eggs in any one single basket, and we certainly welcome technology and innovation. The one thing that is bothersome to us, and I'm not sure if and when you guys are going to be discussing this, is the collapse of the recycle market.
A couple years ago, we did a show in Santa Maria. Larrabee Recycling closed their doors because they weren't getting the money back from the state that would recoup their own costs. That actually had an impact on some of the poorest people in town that actually used recycling as a means of income. And then they've closed so many of these recycling centers that people are paying the state cash for a deposit, and then they have no place to get their deposit back.
I always wish that somebody would bring that up in Sacramento. And then the other issue is waste diversion where there are municipalities throughout the United States that are literally choking on their recyclables. They used to be able to sell them. Now they're having to pay to have somebody take them away. I said all that to say this, one of the reasons it justified and again we're not against this project but one of the things that justified this quarter-of-a-billion dollar project was it was supposed to squeeze more life out of the Tejigawas landfill for you.
Well now that your Public Works Department is telling people Don't stick it in the recycle can, put it in the trash can. It begs the question how long extra life are you going to get from Tejigawas if this situation doesn't change? Is cost benefit analysis still stand? And again, we're not ask you where as you know I don't like sequel. We don't play a sequel delay game or anything else like that but we do think you need to study this.
You need to study it hard because you are burdening your fee payers with the cost of the largest construction project in the history of the county. This is 2 and a half jails This is another freeway expansion. And again, the question is what does this do? The collapse of the recycling market due to waste diversion at Tejiguas and the life of the Tejiguas landfill. Thank you.
That concludes public comment.
I'll go to Mr. Lavagnino in a moment. I agree with the Speaker that this is one of the most important projects, if not the most important project for the county out there. For my purposes it's both the extension of landfill and the largest reduction of GHGs that we've undertaken in I don't have any proof that we might actually mean what we say when we want to save the environment.
But the speaker brings up an important question and I'll allow you to elaborate but I have had some conversations with Scott Smithline from CalRecycle I think it's a broad brush to say that we're not finding materials markets for all recycling. We are finding materials markets for most recycling, but there is a particular problem with mixed paper and with plastics number three through seven. But most of your plastics Thank you Mr. Chair and members of the public I appreciate that you in the public are recycling our number ones and twos we're still finding markets for that I'll allow staff to elaborate a little bit more but one of the biggest issues is to reduce sort of contamination of the loads for us to be able to sell our recycles so it's a good opportunity Mr.
Caldwell brings up a good opportunity to talk I think there's a lot of information on this subject. You know, putting less film plastic in your recycling can would help a lot meaning like plastic bags and other things that are filmy we don't want that in our recycling cans and also the technology that our partners that are sorting our materials down at Harrison There are sorting facilities to be able to have less contamination in the loads.
But consumers can do a lot about it. As long as we've been doing recycling, we still have a lot of contaminated loads and that is the principal concern that we're hearing from China and from the markets in China. Thank you Mr.
Chair and I know we're talking about the financing portion of it right now but there was an attached report that did talk about the consultant's report and feasibility study that was done this month. But if Mr. Schleich, I think it would just be important for the public to hear kind of a thumbnail sketch. We don't have to go through the entire thing but if you could just address some of those concerns
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Mr. Chair, Supervisor Lanvin and the rest of the board members. We did a extensive feasibility report for this project. It looked at the base case as well as four other scenarios where it may have some financial stresses. One of them had to do with reduction in recyclable markets in China. Before I go into detail of that, first as Jen Christensen said this is not a project that's funded by the general fund. It's funded by our partners, the partnerships we have with the various cities in the community, Santa Barbara, Goleta, Buellton, Solvang, as well as Marburg who have guaranteed flow to this facility throughout.
So really the exposure that we have on Decrease in values in China is about 35% of the total project, so it's less. The project before you is already taking a significant reduction on recyclables in general 1.9 million but primarily $1.6 million in reduced revenues from the markets in China. So currently we have about $400,000 of annual revenues based on selling recyclables to China or about 35%. That's about $140,000 annually.
When you distill it down, that as an impact to rate payer is like 25 cents a month if it went to zero in the future. So we actually looked at a worst case scenario where revenues would go down by 20% on recyclables which is actually three times greater than our current exposure or the current Chinese exposure I should say to recyclable markets. And that I think resulted in, it's in the feasibility support. But like a half a percent in year three or four of the project and maybe about 1% thereafter.
The performance never has an increase in recyclable values throughout the 20 years. It might go up who knows? It's a market. It's gone up and down in the past. Specific to the three through sevens, yeah. China has determined that that is no longer recyclable. They don't have the infrastructure to do it and they are calling that trash in China. They're rejecting loads that are being sent to China that have that material and so we now have to bury it by weight. It's only 1% of the total and I think it's a business opportunity in the future as to what to do with those materials. Those opportunities aren't there yet. But I think they will evolve. It seems like that waste is always perceived as an opportunity, as I think a public commenter said today on the past of how oil was a waste product in the past.
So it's not a new thing, it's just an application of innovation and technology as we move forward. Hopefully that answers your question.
Supervisor Adam and then Supervisor Wolk.
Bought scrap metal and a lot of other things. And his deal was, if you get enough of anything in the same place at the same time it's worth money. So you're collecting this stuff and maybe at some point you'll have enough where it's worth money. That'd be great. And I do think that there's a lot of work trying to convert this stuff back into oil or oil-like products that we can recycle in ways that we don't really have the capability to do today. There's a lot of work going on, on all this stuff. There's people that understand that this is an issue that's gonna have to be dealt with and the best way is to turn that stuff into something that's actually worth money. And I think people are working on that, and they'll find it eventually.
You know if you would talk just a minute, I mean this has been studied to death. We really studied this to death and we've had outside attorneys and outside bond counsel and outside everybody, we are not making this up. This is something that even though it' s a very expensive project I think it' the value beyond the expansion, because I was kind of hung on that too as you know.
What would be the drop dead date? I kept asking for this project in terms of expansion of the time of our landfill and do you want to answer that again for us?
Mr. Chair, Supervisor Adams, clearly the project delay has shortened the amount of extended life the landfill will have. But the other side of that perspective is when the landfill does close and we need to take the remaining material, we have a much smaller amount of material that we would have to ship distance to be buried. On what order
of magnitude?
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Like 2036?
Well, regardless you're going to harvest a benefit forever off of this thing in terms of trucking costs or transportation costs to wherever it ends up. That's exactly true. Whether it ends up going north or south East or west, it could go west. The thing is you're gonna harvest a benefit from that really as long as the plant's useful life and it's not limited to how many years extra we can get out of the landfill?
That's correct. God I couldn't have said it better myself. Supervisor Wolf.
Thank you Mr. Chair. Ms. Christensen I'm looking at the resolution before us it's page 4 of the resolution section 9 And I just want to be clear on what this says, because I do think it's important. It says that the treasurer is authorized and directed to negotiate with municipal bond insurance companies. And then it says, and if the treasurer determines that it is in the best financial interest of the county to purchase bond insurance and or reserve fund surety or insurance for the certificates on such terms as a treasurer determines are appropriate.
So on one hand, it sounds like at the beginning of this paragraph that the treasurer is not only authorized but also directed to negotiate And I assumed that it meant to purchase bond insurance. But in the third line, it says that the treasurer can determine if it's in the best financial interest. So it seems on its face to be a little contradictory so Mr. Chair I would like to if you could explain and clarify why we have that the treasurer determines it' s in the best financial interest? I know the treasurer should be allowed to negotiate but not necessarily to determine if it' s in the best financial interest because in the first sentence it says he or she is Again, it seems to contradict itself.
I would be happy to Mr Chair and Supervisor Wolf. So what that is setting up is the option for the county to be able to close on the optimal financing structure whether that be a debt service reserve fund where we would have several million dollars set aside until the final payment 20 years out or whether we can substitute a surety or an insurance policy and not have to set aside those millions of dollars. But it will depend on a couple of factors, one is the pricing of the insurance and Of the actual insurer, so it is something that is an ongoing process to get to close. There are several factors that we have to look at as we haven't closed yet there can be volatility in the market but ultimately its setting up the option for So it's not contradictory.
It's sort of in the alternative you have this option and that option and you're delegating that authority to the treasurer along with the final execution of the bond.
Okay thank you for that so looks like Mr. Ghazani wants to say something and I appreciate that and it does clarify except for If it's clear, then I just wanted to raise it. And then if it's clear, I'm fine with it.
Chair and Supervisor Wolfson since you raised it I just want to agree with Ms. Christensen and also note that within section 5 in section 9 those are harmonious in providing authority which is needed because of the flexibility that's required for the treasurer as he goes through and prices these different options but we've been through this line by line and it's a good resolution.
I figured thank you for both of your answers to this, thank you
Is there a motion?
Mr. Adam. I move staff recommendations.
First by Mr. Adams, second by Mr. Lavagnino and I'll just add the fate of the county and perhaps the world is in your hands so please do a good job. This is...I can't overstate the importance to get...of getting this right and so appreciate your work from There is a motion and a second. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. D3, we have a library item.
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Chair Williams, members of the board, Item 3 is from Community Services. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Goleta Library Board of Trustees and recommendations for appointment of trustees representing unincorporated areas in the 2nd and 3rd districts. We have a request to continue this item to your meeting on 11-6.
Can I get a motion to continue? Yes. Supervisor
Wolf? Assuming there's no public comments, I will move that we reschedule this item for November 6th for continuance. Second.
There is a motion and a second. All those in favor please say aye. Opposed? Thank you. Let's go to D4.
Item 4, also from Community Services. This is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding approval of a 25,000 grant in federal community development block rent funds to Good Samaritan Shelter for Leach Field Replacement Project. This is for fiscal year 2018-19 action plan substantial amendment. This is the first amendment to the license agreement this is in the fourth district.
Good morning. I'm Lori Baker, Grants and Program Manager for the Division of Housing and Community Development. George tapped in regrets that he could not attend this morning. We are here today for consideration of funding for a project at Good Samaritan's Bridge House Shelter in Lompoc. Matt Kropke, Senior Housing Program Specialist will provide more details on the project.
Good morning Chair Williams and members of the board. Good Samaritan Shelter is requesting federal community development block grant funds for a leach field replacement project. Bridge House Shelter is a county owned property which consists of an emergency shelter building and a family shelter building. Both buildings are operated by Good Sam in accordance with the license agreement with the county.
Good Sam provides shelter and services to roughly 90 homeless individuals on a given night at the Bridge House property. Approval of CDBG funds for this project requires a public hearing to consider public comments and submission of an action plan substantial amendment to HUD. Today concludes the 30 day public comment period on the proposed amendment. HCD has not received any public comments on this project as of today.
Good Sam informed HCD that the septic system disposal field for the family shelter building at Bridge House is failing and in need of replacement. Until a new system is in place, the existing septic tank must be pumped frequently to allow for continued use. Due to the urgent nature of the project, staff is recommending funding the grant outside the county's regular annual application period.
HCD is recommending the board approve a $25,000 grant for this project. Staff will return to the board at a later date for execution of a grant agreement. The board is also being asked to execute a first amendment to the license agreement between the county and Good Samaritan Shelter. A first amendment to the existing agreement is required for the project to commence, and includes revisions that will allow the new leach field to extend over the lease boundary, gives responsibility for maintenance inspections, annual service related costs for the complete septic system, and leach field to the licensee.
This slide briefly summarizes today's recommended actions. We are happy to answer any questions you might have. Staff from General Services Department are also available to answer questions related to the amendment to the license agreement. Thank you, and this concludes the staff report. Questions from the
board? Is there a request to speak? No request to speak. Can I get a motion?
Move staff's recommendations
Second. Motion by Adam, second by Wolfe. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? It's unanimous thank you. We will take item five and then we will break for closed session.
Chair Williams members of the board item number fives from the county executive office is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Thomas fire and one nine debris flow after action report and improvement plan
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Thank you, Chair and Supervisors. Today before you we're going to present to you the After Action Report Improvement Plan. The plan was provided through our consulting firm Hagerty which is an emergency management consulting firm that helps clients prepare for and recover from disasters. They were established in 2001. Hagerty Works includes some of the nation's largest recovery preparedness projects in more than 30 states including 9-11, Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Sandy. And as you all know, they provided the after action report for the refugio oil spill. The intent of the report is to identify areas of strength in the county's response to the disasters and primary consideration the county can make to improve future response. The focus of this report is specific to the county's emergency operation centers actions.
In the recommended actions for the board, in addition to the ones that are listed on the board letter we also want to ensure that if you want to provide any information or direction to staff, we're glad to receive that. And now I'd like to turn it over to Katie Friedman from Hagerty Consultants.
Good morning chair members of the board. My name is Katie Freeman, I'm the director of operations for Hagerty Consulting and it was my honor to also serve as the project manager for the report. I think I've had the opportunity to meet many of you both in the process of developing this report as well as the oil spill after action report. Thank you for having me back today.
In presenting the after action report, I'm going to give you an overview of the process and some of the organization of the report. And focus the majority of the presentation on the executive summary. If there are any specific questions on the recommendations in some of the action items for consideration that are included in the report, From a process perspective, we have been engaged since April in development of the report both in reviewing documentation associated with actions taken in the EOC.
Both for the fire and the 1-9 debris flow conducting a series of focus group meetings that's largely organized around the functions within the EOC In addition to that, executing one-on-one meetings with individuals and organizations across the county. Including individuals who work with your local government partners and your non-governmental partners. Executing an initial review with the Office of Emergency Management in July, and then a series of reviews after that. In September, I believe it was We were able to present to the larger group of stakeholders who are engaged in the EOC, and we've been receiving feedback over the past few weeks to finalize the report.
Organizationally, the report is based on a framework provided by the California Governor's Office of Emergency Services. Where I will be focusing my discussion will be in the executive summary as well as the function evaluation sections. I did want to provide a note regarding the improvement plan. The improvement plan pulls the information together from the function evaluation sections and includes information on lead agencies and timelines. We've strategically sorted that in collaboration with the Office of Emergency Management and partners across the county to provide really a prioritization or for lack of a better word, a ranking of those considerations for action by the county.
Organizationally from a priority perspective those that we believe have a higher level of priority and that folks have been able to agree to having a higher level priority presented first. With those that are potentially could be delayed from an investment perspective further on. We've also, where applicable been able to identify where some action has been taken or were some of those considerations and those actions have been completed. Those are organized as well I believe at the end of the improvement plan.
In alignment with the template that's been provided by the state of California, the organization of the report looks at the primary sections in the Emergency Operations Center. This is aligned with the standardized emergency management system and NIMS but really looks at functions associated with management operations planning logistics finance and administration.
It also organizes those to identify the area that the consideration or improvement item is aligned to. Those include planning, training personnel that's really human resources, equipment and facilities. From there for the next portion of the presentation this really focuses on the executive summary of the report. And that includes both the primary strengths and then the primary considerations for the county.
One thing that I would like to make note of is that The strengths and the considerations are not mutually exclusive. I think there are a few areas where the county executed very well, and there are certain actions that are associated with strengths. Considerations that are associated with those are really either formalizing processes or ensuring that certain actions are taken to sustain those processes over time.
To begin with strengths, first and foremost really robust information sharing throughout the county through the Joint Information Center. Really from the onset of the incident beginning with the fire and I think through today as we've been able to see with some of the discussion earlier by Director Lewin The joint information centers being able to come together, provide information, provide it consistently to the public. Provided across multiple channels, multiple platforms and in multiple language really for an incident of this duration it was a Herculean effort.
To be able to bring together those different stakeholders and provide information as consistently as it was. And in some cases where the information that was provided by the county became authoritative sources for, well really consistently for media and for those in the general public who may be looking for information specific to the incident through Google search results and the like.
Related to this has been noted as a strength. It's the provision of relevant and timely mapping products, both to support information sharing to the general public, as well as for operational use within the EOC. Early in the incident for the fire, being able to provide maps for the general public to be able to understand some of the information, some of the threat and hazard information. Being able to evolve those products over time specifically as the incident transitioned from fire response To fire recovery and then into preparedness for the debris flow.
And then for folks both from the county office of emergency management, county agency partners and mutual aid be able to come together in the Emergency Operations Center develop mapping products. That help support operational decision making in the field. I think one of the examples associated with this was being able to bring all that information together on one map, to support re-entry planning and re-entry operations in the Montecito area is definitely a strength. The next strength is the use of the call center.
Both to support public safety awareness and increase situational awareness. Initially, the call center was set up to provide a contact for individuals who may be seeking support including evacuation assistance. And much like the mapping products and some of the different operations that were happening in the JIC, this really transitioned over time Addressing immediate needs of individuals in the Montecito area, as well as to pull in information into the Emergency Operations Center.
Some of that information being able to be used to coordinate and direct resources. I think one of the things that's really interesting and important about this is that it was co-located with the Emergency Operations Center. Meaning, that the call center was on site in the emergency operations center really helped make some of those connections and facilitate information sharing both to be able to provide information to the public and collect information in the emergency operation center.
The next is the execution of timely planning to support contingency operations as the incident evolved. I think this really was exemplary of the leadership across the county, both in the Emergency Operations Center and within county agencies and in collaboration with county partners. Being able to understand how the incident was evolving, understand what gaps were associated with the incident as it evolved and develop plans operational tools to help address some of those needs and gaps. I think a couple of examples of that are provided.
Some of those are really small information dissemination checklists to make sure that information was coordinated as it was being provided to the public. In some cases, I think really did have a larger impact like the ash management plan or transportation plans to ensure that critical personnel were able to come to the county execute their job functions while 101 was not operational following the debris flow.
Next, across the county use of volunteers has been a wonderful strength. That includes formal volunteers, some of the volunteer groups that have made themselves available to address specific needs both in informal ways. I think the bucket brigade is one that has come up as well as your formerly trained community emergency response teams Partners through your voluntary agencies, including the American Red Cross and those that were providing support for animal evacuations for both events.
I think that the use of volunteers and the effective use of volunteers has been noted at local assistance centers, disaster recovery centers, and within the call center very specifically associated with the Emergency Operations Center. Another strength really has been the implementation of a countywide behavioral wellness response. This includes being able to provide sustained support for behavioral wellness across multiple locations, including resources at the Emergency Operations Center both to coordinate field response and provide behavioral wellness support to those that were staffing the Emergency Operations Center. A portion of this does include the organization of the community wellness team and the effective deployment and use of community wellness team across the county.
With a very, very high level of contacts being made both associated with the fire and the debris flow. And then finally, associated with strengths as the execution of a robust public health response. I think this is also a consistent finding with the oil spill after action report we did. The public health response including declaration of emergency providing support for water testing, hazardous materials removal distribution of masks. The team really has been able to come together with a broad mission to provide an extremely robust public health response.
Next, I'm going to go through the five areas for improvement and considerations for the county. First is formalizing and socializing evacuation planning. I think a part of this and a part of what the next steps may include are formalizing the debris flow decision making process, communicating that to county partners. Consolidating those different considerations for evacuation planning into single documents. So there are authoritative sources that all county partners across the operational area are working on, and then being able to make sure that there is consistent terminology that's being used with county neighbors. I think that's probably one of Things that Director Lewin's presentation earlier today spoke to was being able to both make sure that information that's being shared to the public is consistent.
And that everyone understands what the terminology is associated with both ready, set, go and an evacuation warning versus an order and the like. One of the considerations here is providing training both to first responders on what that terminology means and what actions they should be taking associated with it, as well as to the general public. So when we're issuing even as we were talking about earlier red flag warnings that individuals households know what that information means and know what it means to them for what actions they should be taking.
Next on an associated item is continuing to refine and enhance emergency public information and warning. I think there are some notable actions here that have already been taken, I think one of those is establishing ReadySBC as the authoritative source for information for the county. Excuse me, making sure that information is being shared out. But this also speaks to streamlining information sharing within the Joint Information Center and approval processes to make sure that information is being approved in a timely fashion and then shared with the public in a timely fashion.
And then continuing efforts to support planning for information dissemination across multiple platforms In ways that are, I think for lack of a better word we would call analog. Making sure the information is being shared in shelters and other locations in print format. And then making sure that information is accessible both for non-English speaking populations and individuals with disabilities and others with access and functional needs.
I think an important point here, and this is a consideration that the county will have moving forward as how we staff and support this. Because we're dealing with an incident period that began in early December and continues really in some ways all the way through today. Is in providing that support how do you best leverage county employees? Disaster assistance, are you using your volunteer partners? And in some cases where you're pulling in mutual later contract support to supplement those operations as they move forward. I think from the public information perspective one of the areas that we've discussed a few different times is in translation of information from written English to written Spanish.
And making sure that that's executed with a high level of professionalism. So wanting to make sure you're understanding knowledge, skills, capabilities and then accessing those resources appropriately Next is increasing collaboration with local government partners. I think this really speaks to the fundamental aspects of the standardized emergency management system and national incident management system, but wanting to ensure that partners at all levels of government, particularly those at the local level as well as partners who are quasi governmental and non-governmental are able to come together during the planning stages.
I would like Particularly local government partners are embedded in the EOC as liaisons to make sure that operations are being coordinated both between the county and local government partners. As I spoke to earlier next, I think really is enhancing the county's ability to respond to a sustained EOC evacuation. I think a part of this is continuing training that the county already has.
I've had multiple people make note to me Annual EOC training that is provided has been extremely valuable to make sure that individuals are comfortable both within the EOC environment, as well as with some of the specific roles and functions that they may have in the EOC. A few other considerations will be development of just-in-time training. Advancing training for specific individuals based on functions that they may fulfill within the EOC. I'll get into some of that here in a moment, and then ensuring that the EOC is equipped to provide support for a sustained period of time. In some cases it's even being using the EOC as a shelter.
Specific to this, and as I noted earlier, increasing the county's capability to recover from a major disaster. And while the report goes through early December through the end of January, we're not necessarily focusing on recovery. I think one of the consistent findings is that recovery issues really do come up much earlier in the incident than what we would typically classify as a traditional recovery period.
So identifying and appointing a recovery unit leader early in the incident, ensuring that those individuals who may serve as a recovery unit leader have some advanced training on that position. Some of the issues associated with it and then developing supportive plans for that so pre-disaster recovery plans, cost recovery plans, debris management plans being important part of that and I think specifically as it applies to both site identification and formalization, making sure that local assistance center disaster recovery center plans are both developed. That those sites are identified but then there's also a coordination with state and federal partners associated with those to make sure they're comfortable with the sites that have been selected.
That concludes my formal presentation. I am open to address any questions you may have either on the contents of the presentation or the contents of the after action report at this time.
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Questions or comments from the board? I'll identify something that I feel Is maybe touched on but not addressed in the report that I hope that we will learn from. So this is, I guess primarily a request to the Sheriff's Department and secondarily a request to you Mr. Lewin. So one of the things you mentioned is consistency. You put it in regards to something that's life or death which is evacuation planning.
Not life or death, but still important consistency is the question of what to do after the evacuation with both repopulation and what allowances for access there is. And I've spent a lot of time with the residents and one of the real I mean, the residents are enormously thankful to both Sheriff's Department and the county for their role. So they, I don't think they've griped about this real publicly but this is really important.
My conclusion is we set up a process by which we set up rules that made us look like hard asses and then essentially ask people to be dishonest about it in order to circumvent those rules. And with a wink, and I think that's a terrible way to handle things because There were people basically every day telling the Sheriff's Department that they needed to get meds. Because what they really needed was clothes or access, or to make sure that they could spend an hour getting mud off the side of their house so it didn't mold. And it's just a really bad way of doing things to set up rules that are more stringent than what your people will actually enforce in the field.
It also makes anybody who's trying to promulgate the rules that you've set up. We're trying to tell people don't go in and then everybody's like, hey. So long as I find somebody who's a local sheriff's department personnel instead of somebody who's come in from mutual aid, then I can find a way to get access. And it sends enormous mixed messages to the public. And so one of the things that I just ask for is that we learn from That we find the right balance between access and protection, and hold to it. Make some exceptions but I think what we did is we set up something that was too stringent. And then that essentially invited our own personnel in the field to implement in a way that was dramatically different from the rules.
So that would be just my critique. That being said, I think this report shows all the amazing work that has gone on. I'm glad that it of course accentuates things that we have to do better in the future because doing this and going through this and not learning would be a disservice. And from my perspective our personnel are working very hard to learn every lesson possible Thank you.
Thank you Mr. Chair I'm really grateful for both of you for being here and taking the time to talk to us and talk to the community and give us a report. I really am particularly pleased to see the timetables that are in the report and I'm making the assumption that all In alignment with the recommendation so I think it gives us a good plan in moving forward.
There was a couple things I just wanted to ask you about one and maybe I just missed it in your presentation, so I apologize in advance the call center that was housed The number of people who called into the call center is really staggering, but yet really positive because the message was getting out to the public to call a particular number. And I know we had a lot of volunteers in my office and I think other supervisors' offices had folks in We don't have a dedicated call center as I understand it.
Is that in one of your recommendations? because we have the JEC, but this seems to be so integral and you've got a lot of people in a call center all talking. Anyway tell me if that's a recommendation or a thought that you have.
I'll start and then I'll pass it over to Director Lewin. It absolutely is both to be able to address the volume of that, I think it's 8500 calls through December and then another 7600 calls in January were those figures. Associated with being able to sustain an operation over a period of time will be improvements to the Emergency Operations Center. I do think that exploring whether or not space can either be reassigned for a call center, space can be added to for a call center, or that a temporary facility can be brought on to be a call center are three of the different options that the county has discussed associated with that.
Where I think it is important, and I think I said this earlier was that it is co-located with the Emergency Operations Center.
And that just seems so important to have that line of communication from what's going on that sends it to the call takers and then it goes out to the public and having that consistent and correct message.
Absolutely. And from what I understand, Director Lewin that there have been some site assessments or side assessments that are ongoing to understand how the Emergency Operations Center can be added to?
Chair Williams and Supervisor Wolf, that's correct. We have already had meetings with general services in the CEO's office have all gathered and we're trying to identify the best solution to dealing with the issue immediately how do we activate a call center if we had to do it tomorrow? And then future plans for making a permanent site and we'll be bringing that back to the board at a later date.
Great thank you thank you for that Mr. Chair if I could Dr. Dean can you just come forward to the podium I saw you in the audience earlier and You know, this is a little difficult for me because we know that you're leaving us to move on to state government. And I just want to thank you for your incredible support not just during emergencies like this where we have just a stellar report about what public safety Thank you. I appreciate the work that public health has done in our community during these really difficult times but just throughout the year and making sure folks are aware of different just aware of public safety, public health issues. You've been a star and to see the strengths that have been outlined for public health is really due in large part Thank you Mr.
Chair and members of the public. I'm obviously in the office but you are out there in the public and a number of times I saw you speaking at san marcus high school now this was during the thomas fire people were concerned about the air quality and you made things that could have been or were complicated very simple and straightforward for the public and I think that goes also to communication is how do So, I just want to publicly thank you for everything you've done for the county and in this disaster that we've had and previous ones. So thank you charity.
You're just awesome. Thank you. And then finally Mr Chair there is There is a section in here about debris planning for the pre-debris planning. And you have a group in the EOC that was part of that team, correct? And I thought that the timeline in here was that you would have something completed by 2020, and I thought that seemed a little late. Oh here it is. It's on page 33 where it was developing a pre-disaster recovery plan and a cost recovery plan, and then the next sentence is include a revised debris management plan.
And both of those are to be completed in 2020. And I know that the debris management plan is being worked on Thank you, Madam Chair. Can you explain why it's 2020? It's way out there and I think with what we've seen, we need to move on that. And we need to have a plan basically.
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Chair Williams and Supervisor Wolf, yeah the reason that the date to complete is 2020 is just frankly a bandwidth issue. We recognize that debris management occurs during response. That as soon as the folks identified rescue needs they were moving debris and that debris needed to go somewhere and it became an impact on day one of the debris flow We know that other disasters such as earthquakes will even create more debris. Debris is a focus not just in this county, but it's a problem throughout. But we have a more difficult problem in this county because of the mountains that tower above us that provide a few areas to be able to put debris.
The North County is in better shape to be able to store debris temporarily but it is an issue. Our public works folks, Mr. Schleich and his team have already been addressing many of the issues that we're going to take a regional approach to debris so we're including all of the jurisdictions and we've already had meetings that we are participating in as well to just sort of help facilitate see if there's some funding available But so we hope to work on the debris plan, but the bigger plan is we need a recovery plan. This county does not have a formal recovery plan and in order to complete that we want to conclude the debris plant as part of that. So there's 2020.
I want to assure you that our public works folks and the other regional players are all participating in trying If we've learned anything, we've learned a lot about debris through this whole disaster.
All right thank you for that and then just finally just a little typo on page 9 It is repeated, it says this is halfway down in the page. It remained open until and then it says it again, it remained open until so just that one
correction. And Supervisor Wolk thanks for finding the typo we actually put that in there to see. Appreciate it.
Next year we are sending all our resolutions, contracts and agendas to you for review.
I have five different things I'd like to talk about, but the first is kind of ineffable because what struck me during the Thomas Fire and Debris Flow most of all was we talk about fog of war but this was fog of disaster. And you just don't know exactly what's coming. And what I saw was learning happening, and I don't know what contributes to that but that to me was one of the most interesting things as I stood back.
And I don' t know whether it's the EOC and that various people were communicating and sharing information or exactly what made that happen? And I just was curious about anybody's reflections on that
Chair Williams and Supervisor Hartman, thank you. I think it is a synergy that is created in a building that is architecturally designed to create that so you bring people together and the building helps facilitate the constant interactions that need to occur in an emergency. And the other part I would just add is that when you have a disaster Everyone in the county, you and all of the staff and allied agencies are all focused on one goal, one mission. And it's to accomplish that. And of course there are objectives that are identified and then tasks that are created to achieve those objectives and the tools provided to staff to be able to accomplish them. And if we keep that very simple process always in our mind when we do have to deal with issues, then we will succeed at everything.
And of course, we all know that the wheels of government on a normal day don't allow for as much of that but in an emergency operations where you have given the authority to your CEO to execute, we can do that. We were profoundly aware that you and the CEO was ensuring that we could do that and that is not to be taken lightly. We appreciate that very much.
Thank you. And if I may continue, my second point is I just wanted to acknowledge the vision of prior boards to create the EOC. I know one frequent commentator before the board really was against this and I think that what we've learned is how important it is and how important it is to keep it updated going forward that with increasing numbers Severity of disasters, we need that EOC and we need it functioning and it has to be first rate.
The third point I have is about CERT. And when you came and talked to us individually about this, you mentioned CERT. I'm CERT trained. I think it's a really important thing for people to do to protect their communities and neighborhoods. So I'd just like you to talk a little bit about the role of CERT in this past emergency.
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Chair Williams and Supervisor Hartman, yes the CERT program is more relevant now after the disaster than we could have ever imagined. The community emergency response teams these are just folks in our community who have decided to take a course such as you and then participate in these teams. The teams are generally organized through our cities and also that There are some in the non-incorporated areas. But we were able to leverage all of these groups that have been put together and use them in ways that we had not actually anticipated. The CERT training oftentimes focuses on how to help your neighborhood during a disaster, but we were able to use these organized folks in our points of distribution for distribution of masks during the ash.
And bad air, and we were able to use them for water distribution. We used them in our call center which is a very trying and difficult task for anybody in there emotionally and socially. And then we also were, we used them at our kiosks where people could get reassured about what is going on and get an understanding and talk to a person. So it was very valuable beyond even what I ever had expected. And we also have a program called Listos, which is essentially the CERT program that is done in Spanish. And that is a very viable program in this community and needs to grow as well.
Thank you, and if I may hit my fourth of five. I want to talk a little bit about SB 821 which is Senator Hannah Beth Jackson's bill. Warnings are of course critical. The federal WEA system has gotten better but I think Senator Jackson took 821 on as a means of getting more contact information particularly phone information from various utilities and Now we've got to figure out at the county level how to implement that. And so my question right now is, well first I want to say I'm very supportive of this. I'm eager for our county to take a leadership position because our senator did and where are we going on this?
Chair Williams and Supervisor Hartman, of course the legislation is new. And thus far what we've done is we've reached out to Cal OES to ask them if they're going to be able to provide any guidance. We're waiting for a response on that. We have a meeting that we're going to be scheduled with the Senator's office to talk with their staff about it. Of course this is not just a problem for our county. It's all 58 counties in the jurisdictions within them.
And we recognize that the opt-out or as it's commonly referred to, people are already providing this information to their public utilities. These are water districts and electrical utilities that are public agencies And so this is already information that's out there. Now, how do we figure out how to gather that data, validate it and put it into our system? So I have no doubt that we'll be coming back to you at some point with some type of plan that will need some support for
And I'll just before you go on number five, I'll chime in on this. Mr. Lewin as I understand it already asked Cal OES. Cal OES said we're not giving guidance but the legislation clearly says they're supposed to from at least my reading. So there is some question marks about this and my feeling is that given that winter is coming soon. Thank you Madam Chair.
Trying to speak directly to our utilities and say, this is what the legislation says. We need these contact info to be able to notice people because in some areas are the percentages of people who are signed up for alerts is still low. We've managed to get it up a lot higher in areas like Montecito but we don't know where the next disaster's going to be and I just feel like At least in my experience, the wheels of state government can sometimes go slowly. And I think we should be asking utilities directly to see if they're willing to comply with the spirit and letter of the legislation.
But it may take software and a lot of other things for us to develop, but I'm eager for us to be a pioneer in this if that's what it takes. My final point is we... I just want to say that I think the Fire Safe Council is an opportunity to work on a lot of these issues with the community, and I would very much like to see going forward In January when we have committee appointments that we have one or two board members assigned to the Fire Safe Council, I think it needs greater visibility and we can elevate it and perhaps bring additional resources focus and attention to it.
That's really, I think what we've learned is you gotta be prepared ahead of time at the individual level, at the neighborhood and community level and at the county level across all departments. Thank you so much Mr. Lewin. This was first of all, I think a very excellent report and superbly delivered. And Mr. Lewin you know how much we're grateful to your service for getting us through all of that.
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Again, on behalf of the people of the first district we really appreciate the service of you and all the county personnel. First responders and EOC and county employees in general for what you did for us. Is there a motion to? There is one request to speak.
We have one request to speak David Boyd.
Good morning, Santa Barbara County Supervisors. I regret missing the earlier discussion on this subject. I thought it would come up later and so I'm just arriving sort of on the run. I've provided copies of my comments here and I will speak directly from them. My name is David Boyd, and my wife Alice and I are homeowners in residence at 726 San Ysidro Lane Montecito which is an unincorporated area of the county.
I have read the Thomas Fire and 1-9 Debris Flow After Action Report Improvement Plan, and I see that it does not address the causes and circumstances surrounding the 23 deaths related to the 1- 9 debris flow. And it does not recommend corrective actions to help prevent recurrence of deaths from a future similar event of this magnitude. The 23 deaths are undoubtedly the single most important and enduring legacy of this tragedy.
And yet they are mentioned in only one brief sentence on page 8 of the report, and are not analyzed to determine how and why they occurred. Also, the report is not self-critical in recognizing deficiencies such as Evacuation orders and evacuation warnings, which did not adequately define high debris flow hazard areas and did not adequately ensure residents were informed of the imminent disaster.
No corrective actions are recommended in the report to upgrade accuracy and ensure receipt of orders and warnings. I believe these comments show where value can be added by more rigor and objectivity in assessing performance of Santa Barbara County Emergency Management to prepare for the 1-9 debris flow and protect the safety of all those present in the disaster area before this event happened.
Thank you, and I would ask staff and our consultant to address that to some extent. There is the consideration that At least part of what the speaker was talking about is in the consistency on evacuation and protocol. So can you talk a little bit about that, and how it relates to exactly what the speaker is talking about?
Thank you, Chair Williams. And there is some portions in the improvement plan that can be identified that can talk about some of the lessons learned. But I think I want to go specifically to first of all, I want to state that not for a second has anybody not considered the actions that we took prior to the debris flow and What occurred during the debris flow?
Certainly that is something that all of us will live with for the rest of our lives, whether we were members of the community or staff in the county. But as decision makers, we base our decisions on the best information we have at the time. And we believe that we did that. We believe that we were prudent in our decisions to call for the evacuations that we did based on the data and information that we had. We were operating in a fire that had just occurred, and all the scientific data was not gathered for us in time. So we were trying to do the best we could with the data that we have.
But I want to assure you that when we did have all the data by January 24th, We had risk maps that were developed by scientists. And we responded in the subsequent evacuations based on the information that we had and the lessons that we learned from the debris flow. And likewise, we're continuing to implement the things that we've identified. And we are changing even what we're going to be rolling out to the community this year to make sure that one our message is very simple and clear so people understand it. Two, that the maps are easily understood so people know how to respond if they're in an area that is at risk. And three, that we will continue as we always have our commitment to being engaged from the moment that we see a storm that is predicted that could cause harm all the way through to the conclusion of that event.
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Thank you Mr. Chair, thank you for your comments Mr. Lewin and thank you for being here Mr. Boyd as Mr. Lewin mentioned we As a county and as a community learned a great deal, and Mr. Lewin talked about issues with communication. And I just wanted to let you know that what Mr. Lewin was alluding to is that on November 6th we're having an item at the Board of Supervisors that is called the alerting system update. So we're going to, our staff has been looking at some of the issues that you raised. Some of the issues that we know occurred that may have caused some confusion or miscommunication. So our staff has done an exemplary job in Thank you Mr. Chair and thank you for bringing to us a better communications system in alerting the public. I just want from my position I just want you to know that this report does not I don't Thank you.
Mr. Chair and members of the board I want to thank you for what is the word I' m looking for? The preparation but it' s also kind of a reflection that our staff members have gone through not just from the thomas fire but also trying to understand and deal with what you said is the loss of life. You know I' ve been here 12 years and we had so many fires We had lost fire personnel, we had lost someone and subsequent fires. We had lost unfortunately some fire personnel but this was an incredibly tragic incident in the loss of life.
And also still not locating two people who were lost in the debris flow. So while it may not be reflected in this report I just want to assure you First responders out there, and I'm sure you know people. And they're people I know. We were touched by this and we as a community, as a county want to do whatever we can to not have this happen ever again, to the extent that we can. But I do want to thank you for coming here and speaking out about this issue.
You can if we ask you a question. After Supervisor Adam speaks, I'll ask you a question and you can respond to questions Mr.
Boyd. Mr. Boyd I think you represent a lot of people that didn't come in and talk about this today so You know, just contextually after everything that's been said I want to jump up and defend staff because you know this is a very difficult thing to do to make these judgment calls as to whether to evacuate an entire community. And you know this situation is very unique it's very difficult to express the amount of risk that everybody is in that underlies any of these or underlives any of these fires at this point. And yet people live there every day and so it seems, you know, there's a sense of normalcy And you know, this thing's like a spring that's been loaded up there and all that you have to do is have a trigger come along and somebody bumps into this thing and bang it goes off.
These guys have to predict whether or not This particular storm on this particular day is going to do thus and such, and we just don't have that good a handle. I mean it's getting better all the time but we don't have that good of handle on the weather. If we knew what everything was gonna do, then we'd be able to plan better. But there's this judgment call element to this thing and even when we evacuate... And I know there was a lot of consternation when they evacuated your community last time. They were very worried that they had done something for nothing And lo and behold, they were absolutely spot on.
And then people didn't get out. People didn't listen. You're just never going to eliminate the risk. I don't care what kind of after action reports you have. I don't care what they do next time. Everybody's gonna do their best But you're always going to fall somewhat short. And every disaster by its very nature is different than every other disaster, so there's just no way to never let this happen again.
There's no way because it's just a reality of life. This is why life is so precious and wonderful, is that it can be taken away from any of us on any day. We want to eliminate all these things and it's not that we shouldn't be thinking about them and I think we have. You know, to a great degree. And it's a good exercise and everything. And you're dealing with the most competent people on the planet, some of them teams from here were called out to what hurricane was that? I forget the name of it.
The thing is we've got some of the most competent people on the planet working on this on a daily basis.
And that's what I want all of our
whole community to understand and
particularly yours because you are the one with the Damoclean sword I'm You know, I hope that you can have some confidence in these people and live a peaceful life. And be aware of the weather and listen when they tell you to get out. And everything should be as okay as it's gonna get.
Thank you. Thank you Mr. President. The continuing efforts to standardize evacuation terminology across the operational area. Because I think one of the things that I really heard before the disaster, the predominant thing that I heard in our community was disbelief which was hard to overcome. And I think proper terminology and understanding of the right communication to do can partially pierce through disbelief.
I also think on page 13, Thank you Mr. Chair and members of the board. I would like to begin with a paragraph of continuing to refine and enhance emergency public information and warning. Part of it there was real confusion from the we alert While we want to change that on a national level, we don't expect that to happen overnight. So we've made extensive efforts to try to get more people on the local county alert system where we can provide more detailed and timely information.
I do think there are some elements of your comments that are truly not in the report. Some of it is outside its scope and I will say one of the things we know as a cause is inadequate flood control in the Montecito community. There's a lot of historical reasons why that is so. The biggest So much more Montecito is in private hands than is true in a typical community.
And that is a daunting but not insurmountable factor in our efforts to increase flood control, and we have submitted several FEMA grants and we do have plans hopefully there will be Thank you Mr. Chair and members of the committee. I understand there is a need for community partnership and non-profit partnership or FEMA partnership to help pay for it because the county' s resources are limited to do it but we want to both increase the capacity There are several of the watersheds and one of the most notorious is San Ysidro that have just totally inadequate capacity for flood control.
And we can do something about that. We will not be able to do it before next winter, but we can do it and we will do it. Capital project response to this, and capital projects as I understand these big things are a little bit outside of the scope of your report. But it's not outside of the scope of what our reflection as a community needs to be. And in my view we need to rally both government and non-profits. To say, we need to acquire land for debris basins. And we need to in some cases enlarge the banks of our creeks to what would be more natural and also a greater flood control capacity. In an urbanized area people tend to build up development as far up to the creeks as they can. They become narrower and they just have less capacity and more of a chance to jump the banks.
And I think both of those were significant factors. But please, let's see what I can think of as a question. Is there anything else that you'd like to highlight that is outside the printing of the report Mr. Boyd?
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Well as I mentioned, I do have a couple of comments on what has been said by the supervisors here. And I think you indicated that I might have an opportunity after all of you have commented.
That's why I asked a very general question so you could make those comments.
Well, for example, Supervisor Wolf, I certainly share your feelings about the loss of life and the importance of doing something to try and help prevent Thank you Mr. Chair and members of the board. I appreciate your concern about future losses like that but getting right down to the brass tacks I'm here to talk about the root cause of these deaths. Why and how these deaths happen a root cause analysis as I'm sure our consultant representative knows is the type of action taken after an industrial death. Death in a minor in a chemistry plant in this country at
Chair Williams, in fact certainly during an industrial accident even when firefighters are killed during even natural disasters or other emergencies they're responding to there are reports that are done that do look at contributing and causal factors May have caused the accident. However, I'm not aware and maybe our consultant is of those kinds of reports that are done during disasters for civilians. But I'm sure that there's processes if that was a direction that could be done to do some kind of analysis on individuals and what was occurring.
In my past I was part of teams that did those types of reports for firefighters, but I don't know of anything like that personally and for civilians.
I just ask that you explore it. There are, I have some similar questions. I wondered how many of our beloved folks that we lost were lost inside their building? How many were lost in the midst of leaving their building which i think is an important question to answer and And of course, other questions like that are important to answer. So I don't know if the formal procedure but maybe at least think about what kind of additional analysis might be helpful for the future and I just want to say to Mr. Boyd and his wife and all the residents of the Santa Elena neighborhood down there.
You are very important to me and very important to this county. And we're not done with reflections and lessons learned, and increased preparation. We are not done. So we will take a break for closed session and be back for the final item of the day.
Do you want me to make a motion to
receive- Yes, we do need a motion. Supervisor Wolf?
Thank you Mr. Chair, I will make a motion per staff's recommendation to receive this after action report and improvement plan and determine that these activities are exempt from CEQA. Second.
There is a motion in second all those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Thank you. And what are we getting in closed session Mr. President?
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Chair and Supervisors, today in closed session the board has agendized to consider first a conference with real property negotiators concerning property at 204 through 222 East Cook Street Santa Maria. And the negotiating parties in that case are the City of Santa Maria as well as General Services Director for the county and you have three public employee appointments to consider. First is Fire Chief, then Acting Slant Interim Human Resources Director and finally Planning and Development Director. The estimate is about one hour for closed session.
So we will plan on being back here at 1225 or 1230. Oh well then we'll definitely be back at 1245. Yeah.
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We're reconvening. We are going to do a report from closed session at the end of the meeting, so someone kick me if I don't remember it by that time and we will take our final item, the Gaviota Coast plan beforehand.
Chair Williams, members of the board. Item six is from planning and development. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding accepting the California Coastal Commission certification with modifications of an amendment to the county's local coastal program regarding the Gaviota coast plan in the third district.
Good afternoon Chair Williams and members of the Board of Supervisors. I'm Julie Harris, a senior planner with the Long Range Planning Division and I'll be giving the presentation today for Gaviota Coast Plan. The long range planning team will be available for questions afterwards. The purpose of today's hearing is to consider the California Coastal Commission's certification of the Gaviota Coast Plan with modifications. Receive a brief summary of the modifications and review the commission's responses to the requests your board of supervisors made in a letter dated July 17th, 2018.
To recap how we got to where we are today, on November 8th of 2016 the Board of Supervisors approved the Gaviota Coast Plan and subsequently submitted the plan to the Coastal Commission for certification as an amendment to the county's local coastal program. On April 24th of this year, the Coastal Commission staff released a staff report with suggested modifications and scheduled a hearing for May. Prior to the hearing, the county withdrew the plan and resubmitted it to provide the community with additional time to review, discuss, and comment on the suggested modifications.
A public workshop was held on July 3rd and the Coastal Commission staff participated. This was followed by a hearing of the entire Board of Supervisors on July 17th. At the end of that hearing, the board sent a letter to the coastal commission expressing the county's concerns and requesting additional changes. On August 10th, after considering the county's letter, the Coastal Commission certified the Gaviota coast plan with some additional revisions that addressed many of the concerns raised in the county's letter.
The Board of Supervisors has six months from the certification date within which to act on the certification. The board has several options, accept the certification with modifications as approved by the Coastal Commission, amend the plan including the modifications and resubmit the plan as a new local coastal plan amendment. Explicitly reject the modifications or take no action and allow the certification to expire within the six month time frame, which ends on February 10th of 2019.
The Coastal Commission made 13 modifications to numerous policies and development standards of the plan, grouped by issue area. And revised the article two coastal zoning ordinance amendment. Throughout the process county staff and coastal commission staff have worked cooperatively discussing our respective concerns. County staff was also allowed to review and comment on the draft suggested modifications, which our staff greatly appreciated. As a result, the Coastal Commission staff removed a number of draft modifications per the county's requests. Other modifications were revised to be more acceptable to the county.
Eventually, the modifications of most concern were highlighted and discussed at the ad hoc subcommittee workshop. And the subsequent Board of Supervisors hearing in July resulting in your letter requesting additional changes to a number of the suggested modifications. Meanwhile, county and coastal commission staff continued discussions regarding these outstanding concerns resulting in the additional changes to modifications before the Coastal Commission approved the plan on August 10th.
Regarding the resolution of the board's requests, the table beginning on page four of your board letter provides a summary with details discussed in the text. Most of the first set of requests regarding agriculture were granted with regenerative agriculture being addressed rather indirectly through a clarification that exempt agriculture includes a number of activities that can be considered regenerative agriculture.
Regarding request number 1A, the county sought a compromise that was approved by the Coastal Commission in 2010 to allow new agricultural cultivation and grazing without a coastal development permit if it met certain standards. However, at the time back in 2010 this modification was not accepted by the Board of Supervisors. Now in 2018 the Coastal Commission would not grant this modification. The Coastal Commission's legal counsel stated that 2010 approval was an error and they would not recommend approval again because it would essentially expand the definition of development in the coastal act and therefore be inconsistent. The Coastal Commission concurred with their legal counsel.
The next set of county requests was associated with the plan's natural stewardship policies. Approved requests include relocating the detailed biological study requirements to an appendix of Article 2, and modifying Article 2 to allow county discretion to determine when and where a biological study would be required. Of note, rare was not restored to policy NS4 nor were criteria added to clarify when chaparral would be considered ESH.
However these issues were addressed in other ways. First, policy NS4 concludes that common types of chaparral are ESH when part of a large contiguous area of native habitat. Second, the biological study requires information similar to the county's requested criteria for assessing potential ESH. Including patch size and connectivity, presence of invasive or non-invasive species, the area and type of disturbance, and proximity to development.
And third, the Coastal Commission's revised findings provide additional clarifications that align with the county's request. The county staff believes the general information required by the biological study, together with the clarifications included in the revised findings provide adequate direction and flexibility for the county to assess when common types of chaparral would qualify as ESH. As a consequence, policy NS4 would not presumptively determine that chaparral is ESH wherever it occurs.
Regarding request number five, the Coastal Commission did not restore full discretion to adjust riparian habitat buffers downward on a case by case basis as is allowed by the existing coastal plan policy 9-37. The Coastal Commission findings conclude that the buffers are necessary to protect the biological productivity and water quality of streams and to avoid disruption of habitat.
However, an adjustment downward on a case by case basis may be allowed when application of the minimum buffer would deprive a landowner of a reasonable use of property. In addition, Article 2 was revised to allow ancillary residential accessory structures and home occupations with a non-appealable coastal development permit as is the current requirement. The economically viable use determination language was deleted from both the plan and the coastal zoning ordinance. And policy REC 8 was modified satisfactorily by simply referring to Coastal Act language, which does not reference implied dedications or prescriptive rights.
The Coastal Commission staff introduced two new modifications at the certification hearing on August 10th. First, Coastal Commission staff revised its own recommended development standard REC 3 to clarify that the fee required for development in Hollister Ranch shall be required for each coastal development permit issued. Second, at the request of El Capitan Canyon Campground and Resort, the Coastal Commission added language to development standard NS2. Recognizing the existing riparian buffers at El Capitan Canyon pursuant to its approved conditional use permit.
Many of these buffers are less than the standard minimum of 100 feet. The language addition, as discussed in the Coastal Commission findings would allow El Capitan Canyon to maintain and repair existing development. And continue to build out the campground pursuant to the approved conditional use permit which in turn would support the continuation of low cost accommodations at El Capitan Canyon which is a priority of the coastal commission.
This completes staff's presentation. As discussed, most of the Board of Supervisors' recent requests of the Coastal Commission were granted and a few that were not were partially addressed in other ways with additional direction and rationale provided in the Coastal Commission's revised findings which county staff can rely on as we go forward with future application review.
Therefore, staff recommends that the Board of Supervisors accept the certification with modifications as summarized on this slide and with the detailed language for your motion provided in your board letter beginning on page one. Thank you.
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Questions from the board? Let's go to public comment.
Chair Williams, members of the board, we have eight requests to speak. We're going to start in Santa Maria with Andy Mills and then come back to Santa Barbara for Burke.
Thank you, Chair Williams and members of the board. My name is Andy Mills and I'm representing the Gaviota Ranchers Group. I first would like to thank county staff for all the work they did and as Ms. Harris said, the achievements they made in getting reasonable amendments to the Coastal Commission policies. However there are still Two or three policies concerning the environmentally sensitive habitat designations that are killers for agriculture and people who may want to build new homes.
We would ask that you would withdraw the plan, fix these problems very quickly and resubmit the plan. We think these issues are so narrowly focused that you could do this on an expeditious level and you could still have the plan certified on a timely basis. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Burke followed by Lee Moldaver.
Mr. Chair, members, we are more alike each other than not. The big difference being that very thin layer that covers us all called the epidermis and that comes in many colors. After the epidermis were all the same everybody pees yellow and bleeds red yet because of differences in colors Some of us, all the time and all of us at some time, disdain one another and fail to see the humanity that resides in each one of us.
So it is with some people's regards towards nature. They see it only as something to be exploited, something to build houses on or apartment buildings or highways And do not see the sacredness of the beauty that dwells in nature. I love walking, I like walking across down on the beach. The waves, the different textures of the sand, imagining all the critters that are out there at sea.
So too I relish walking in the silence, the cathedral silence of a sequoia forest. And here I relish walking along the sagebrush grabbing some between my fingers and smelling it, a delight. I ask that as our goal with ourselves is to respect each other and even the humanity that each of us is, because irrespective of our circumstances or whatever color we were painted so too to the land that we dwell upon and all the critters.
I want to give respect to all of that Yes we are here to use the land but not to disrespect it. We all come from the same source, we shall all return to the same source and in between is how we treat each other. Mr. Chair members.
Our next speaker is Lee Moldaver to be followed by Linda Kropp
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and members of the board. I'm Lee Moldaver. I serve on the boards of the Gaviota Coast Conservancy, The Audubon Society, The Citizens Planning Association and a lot of others. I can't compete with the prose poem that Mr. Burke just shared so I'm not going to try. I want to thank him for his testimony. I'm here to support the staff recommendation and ask you to approve the results of the negotiation with the Coastal Commission for these many years.
It was 20 years ago that Felicia Marcus took me aside and reminded me, which I think was the first time it heard it, that the perfect is the enemy of the good. And we have so much that's good. As a result of these negotiations that rather than spend more time or more lawyers fees, or more risk in public policy. I think it's time to move forward and I'm pretty comfortable in saying that because I think as the chair remembers in spring of last year we were down at La Conchita one day and they were dedicating the pedestrian walkway under the freeway to the late Peter Douglas.
And they were dedicating the coastal bikeway to the late Ralph Furtig. And I noticed that from one end of the dedication point, if you look south, the entire coastline down the Ventura and Oxnard Coast was visible. But if you turn the other way a large part of the coastline in the South County Center Barbara was visible. And I remember that Jack Ainsworth, who had recently taken over as director of the Coastal Commission, reminded everyone there that he had been posted for seven years in the Ventura regional office before being elevated. I think he knows and I think he'll make sure that his staff knows How special the Gaviota Coast is, how special these negotiations have been and how important it is for everyone on the local level and on the state level to work together to protect them.
I want to thank Planning and Development Department and your legal team for all of the work they put in to make this agreement as solid and as representative as possible. But I think that time has come today to say this about as good as we're going to get And let's give Diane Black a little laurel wreath as she prepares for early retirement by approving this staff recommendation today. Thank you very much.
Linda Kropp, team followed
by Brian Troutwood.
Thank you and good afternoon I'm Linda Kropp Chief Counsel of the Environmental Defense Center It's nice to be at this point of a very long and contentious, but ultimately successful process. EDC has been involved in this process since the beginning. Former staff member Christina McGinnis served on the GAVPAC. We participated in that process through the CEQA environmental review process, all the hearings before the planning commission and the board and the coastal commission and the board and the coastal commission and the board.
And there's been a lot of progress made. And given that, we do support the plan as presented today. We believe that it protects the rural character of the Gaviota Coast, the natural, agricultural, cultural and scenic resources that provide so many benefits for the landowners as well as the public in the county. We note that at the end of the day, most of the county's requests for revisions in the Coastal Commission's recommendations were granted. And those that were not granted were given thorough analysis and consideration and an informed response offers to modify. There was a lot of negotiation. And what we're left with today are recommendations that are really necessary to make sure this plan can be certified because that decision will be made at the coastal commission level.
And if the plan is not certified, then it won't be in effect at all. So this is really critical to cross the finish line here. We believe that the plan as a whole meets the county's desires, as well as the Coastal Act requirements. In particular, the expanded ag exemption which we have not seen anywhere else will provide significant new assurances to farmers and ranchers on the Gaviota coast.
We therefore support the staff's recommendation and urge the board to approve the plan as modified by the Coastal Commission. And thank you for all your sincere deliberation on this issue.
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Brian Trotwang, defaulted by Phil McKenna
Thank you and good afternoon Chair and Board Members. I'm Brian Troutman with the Environmental Defense Center. We thought it was important to point out today that the Coastal Commission has compromised quite a bit along the way here. For instance, under the Coastal Act there is no explicit grandfathering of existing agricultural development. All new ag development could have been subject to permits Yet the Coastal Commission agreed to not only a 10-year window, which they initially discussed, but also a 20-year window exempting ongoing ag operations. This was an enormous compromise made by the Coastal Commission in an effort to reach common ground with the county. Additionally, the Coastal Commission worked with the county to come up with new language that provides enough direction for the county to make ESHA determinations, which is also a sticking point.
And they compromised in doing that. And EDC also compromised, we wanted to ban enhanced oil and gas development on the Gaviota Coast but our requested ban didn't make it into the plan. We wanted to ensure that public trails are constructed before landowners can build the incentive dwelling units. But instead, the extra houses can be built with no assurances that the trails will ever be built.
We sacrificed a lot and we gave up a lot along the way to get to the point where we're at today. And in closing, in the spirit of collaboration, we wanted to come out today and thank you and your staff and let you know that we support the plan as a reasonable compromise which we feel fulfills the goals and objectives set forth of protecting the rural character of the Gaviota Cove so thank you all very much for your work on it. Appreciate it.
Phil McKenna be followed by Anna Citrin
Hello my name is Phil McKenna I'm here speaking as an individual today. I want to recognize the cooperation and collaboration of the California Coastal Commission and County Board of Supervisors here it's in real Distinction relative to the debacle of the LUDC that we experienced about 10 years ago. I think a lot was learned from that process and as Brian from EDC just said, there was a lot of compromise done by the environmental community and the ag community to come up with this program. I'd also like to recognize Doreen Farr I want to start by saying thank you to Barbara County Board of Supervisors who initiated this process. The Gaviota Coast was near and dear to her heart and still is, and she's the one who really started this process.
I was a member of the GAVPAC. It was an arduous process. I wouldn't do it again, but I am here today to recognize its final approval, I looked at the public comments on the website before I came over and I noticed that 106 were supporters of approving. this plan and moving forward, three opposed it. I think that's fairly good sentiment in the community. It's a small sample.
It's certainly not completely representative and I do recognize the objections that some members in the agricultural community have to this plan. However, it is a compromise and we need to work together and live together and this plan does that. It protects the coastal viewshed. It provides for streamlining of agricultural small-scale projects so that farmers and ranchers can undertake an experimental project to see if it works economically for them.
It reaffirms the California Coastal Trail, even through Hollister Ranch. And it provides residential design guidelines that are clear and concise, that will be a boon to planning and development in informing applicants of what they can and can't do. I think that's one of the major contributions is oftentimes overlooked in this plan. So please do support this. Let's end this process happily so that I can move on to other things.
Thank you very much.
Anna Citron to be followed by Christine Fincher
Good afternoon, Chair Williams and Supervisors. Ana Citrin with the Law Office of Mark Shutillo representing the Gaviota Coast Conservancy and also the Naples Coalition. I want to thank everyone involved. This has been a long time coming. A lot of work has gone into this, a lot of time. A lot of resources. I want to thank in particular Supervisor Hartman and Chair Williams. Your initiative in convening the workshop, I think was pivotal and changed the course of this plan. I think it may not have gone as well had you not convened that workshop and invited the Coastal Commission staff to attend and had coastal staff not attended and been able to explain directly The public and stakeholders about the modifications, and then work with county staff at addressing the county's concerns.
And thank you to county staff, I know it's been a lot of work and we really appreciate it. I heard one speaker recommend withdrawing and resubmitting the plan. And I would just caution you that that's not without substantial risk. We saw in the case of new cultivation and grazing, that an accommodation the Coastal Commission was willing to make in 2010 they are no longer willing to make.
If we do not finalize this plan now, we may lose additional ground. In particular the exemptions, the new exemptions for ongoing and historic cultivation and grazing which as other speakers have mentioned is a major gain for the agricultural community those could be compromised. This is your chance to lock this in to make sure that all of the great things that this plan does can be realized.
And with respect to the remaining concerns, you've heard from staff that on every point that the county raised there was an accommodation made whether granting the request or identifying an alternative path to addressing the county's concern. And I would just finally add that in some of the, one of the letters we saw an objection to development standard rec three. And I would just clarify that that merely codifies existing state law. It does not add any new requirements and that's the Hollister Ranch public access fee.
So with that we would urge you to accept staffs recommendation and finalize this excellent plan so thank you very much.
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Our final speaker is Christine Fancher.
Hello Supervisors and Chair Williams, I'm Christine Fancher representing myself. I am here today to ask that the supervisors accept the Coastal Commission's modifications to the plan as everyone here knows Our pristine Gaviota Coast is one of Santa Barbara's crown jewels, a cathedral for many of us. Without protection it is too vulnerable. Thank you for your time.
Good afternoon. Caelan Kelly here on behalf of Citizens Planning Association of Santa Barbara. Just a very brief statement. The project has a long history, I can remember years ago making those torturous drive all the way up to the school at the end in Gaviota for long meetings but we're nearing the end and I think it's time to finish this Thank you. That concludes public
Let's see, I have a few things to say. First of all, I joined the Planning Commission as chair and this was the first thing on the agenda so my experience with this goes back a ways but not nearly as long as some others here in this room. I think we've got it pretty close. The last issue that we heard Andy Mills talk about has to do with something that I don't think is really a county issue and this has to do with whether the fee assessed at Hollister Ranch is applied per parcel when it's vacant initially or whether it's for each CDP.
And, I don' t think it's going to help us at all to hold this up and address that issue. It's really an issue of interpretation of two different conflicting sections of the law, and that's between Hollister Ranch and the Coastal Commission, and it may have to be resolved by the courts or by the legislature, or by both. But I don't think there's anything that we can do that can fully resolve that issue so I-I don't think it helps to hold up the plan and in fact there is currently a parcel where this without the plan where this has already arisen. So I think that's proof positive that there's not much we can do by not certifying the plan. This issue is still going to come forward So people have discussed some of the advantages of the plan. I mean this has been such a long process with enormous discussion, but I think in the end we have much greater certainty for the nature of development and how we will protect the rural character Of the Gaviota Coast, I think there are some tremendous advantages for the ranchers and agricultural community there.
And again, I think that historic exemption for 20 years is a major thing. Many of the new activities that are allowed for agriculture on the Gaviota Coast that may eventually be expanded to other agriculture throughout the county. Thank you. And glad that you did, Phil. I had it on my list too first and foremost she launched this process and I feel like it was the district third district office we had to keep faith with that and try to bring this home.
So many, many meetings and subcommittee meetings. That was a huge testament for how important this area is. The ranchers and farmers who have really protected the rural character of our Gaviota Coast and the advocates over decades. And I also want to acknowledge Steve Hudson at the Coastal Commission. That was unprecedented for them to come and stand up and explain and engage with us, and that wasn't an easy thing to do on July 3rd for a four-hour meeting starting at 4 in the afternoon but I think that was what enabled us to get Over the final hurdle, I also want to thank Julie Harris. I think this was some of the finest staff work I have ever seen and Diane Black who you don't always see it but she was a really staunch advocate working on the phone working in meetings with the Coastal Commission.
And again, where we didn't get in the modifications, we've got findings and some language so that they've really addressed every concern. And then I have to brag on Jefferson Lytton because he was always on the phone talking to people trying to explain, trying to engage and that's really what it takes and so I'm so thankful to him. So I guess I want to hear what my other colleagues have to say and then there was a quote in the letter and then I would like to make a motion.
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Supervisor Wolk.
Thank you Mr. Chair. When we got on the board almost 12 years ago, we had a lot of community plans going on and one of which was the Eastern Goleta Valley Community Plan. And I think now in that whole grouping this is the last plan to come through. And even though this isn't in my district it is a third Thank you Madam Chair. I appreciate your process, plan and responsibility but I am so pleased. I think as you just said it was I think you did with your hands Joan this is for all of us and it' s true there's something incredibly special sacred emotional You know we've had projects come before us and as someone mentioned, maybe it was you Joan, that this is an opportunity to give us certainty as this county moves forward in development I'm so grateful.
That is, I'm ending my term, my time on this board that this is...I'm hoping that we will see the finality of the Gaviota Coast plan there's been so as has been mentioned there has been so much time spent on I believe compromise and it is time to move And have a sense of security for something that we all treasure so much, which is the Gaviota Coast and everything that is part of that beautiful place. So I also want to thank Doreen. I don't know if she's listening right now?
She probably is because this was near and dear to her heart. She formed an incredible gaff pack to have representation from all of the areas that have been mentioned and worked through a lot of, you know she had her staff go to the meetings I know. And to Joan for carrying it across the finish line. And I note as well the amount of time that you and your staff have spent to get us to this point. These types of things don't just happen so you are to be commended And also our tremendous staff. So thank you everyone, thank you for your participation in getting us to where we are today and for protecting the Gaviota Coast.
Thank you. It's sort of out the barrel now. It is out the barrel now, but I don't even think there should have been a community plan on this. There's so little of the actual community input into this thing that by the regulated community and the GAVPAC plan that got done by the GAVPAC This just, in my opinion, doesn't even resemble what came out of that process.
And I think it got hijacked and it's a cram down for the regulated community and it just seems like everybody gotta say in this thing except them so I'm not gonna be able to support it.
Supervisor Lavigno. Thank you Mr. Chair, well I hope Doreen is watching today because I want her to know that I stayed consistent she'd be real upset with me if I voted against it in 2016 when she was here and then I came back and changed my mind so For me it's about, well I do have one question of county council and that's on the rec three. So people are saying Supervisor Hartman might be correct in that this might not be our bailiwick or our fight but if we adopt this into our Gaviota Coast plan don't we then become the?
Just explain to me how our liability changes or doesn't change with us.
Chair and Supervisors, concerning Development Standard REC 3 Hollister Ranch public access. I think the county is defensible on adopting that in part because the language of Development Standard REC3 which cites to section 30610.8 Is involves a another code section cited to by 306 10.8 which is 306 1 0 point 3 and I think that's the summary that supervisor Hartman provided that The tension between those two sections is something that has preceded today, and we'll likely follow after today as this moves forward
Okay for me You know, I think I have argued many times that you can't let the perfect be the enemy of good. And I think our staff should be commended in his going as far as they possibly could with the board direction that they had and this is probably the best deal that we're gonna get from the Coastal Commission. There's just still a few items for me that are poison pills Thank you Mr. Chair. I think from the way I feel about land use that I think some of the ash designations are over the top and I think some of the flexibility was lost in establishing buffers that's important. For others, that might be minimal in this huge plan. I You know, I've been out there before where you had a landowner and everybody wanted to walk across his property.
It's going to be 1,000-1 of who wants to do it and the one person that doesn't want to do it. So I understand there is huge community support for it. It just something I'm not going to be able to support but I do appreciate all the work that has gone into this.
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The wide difference of viewpoints about Gaviota is reflective of two truths that are equally important and equally true, but are difficult to make compatible. Which is that the Gaviota Coast is a cathedral to some, And it is a workshop to others. And I will say that makes perceptions of some uses very different, but somehow we must Make the Gaviota Coast be able to be preserved as both a cathedral and a workshop.
Because I can tell you, as your former legislator and at one point your point person to try to get state monies for preservation efforts, there is not enough money in the State of California to preserve the Gaviota Coast let alone in this community. Our chance for preservation in the Gaviota Coast, I have come to the conclusion over the years has to be involved much of it staying in private hands.
And that means it has to work in private hands and so you know it is for With Joan's leadership we as a board did stand up for additional concessions to landowners and to the regulated community. I do feel that particularly some of Thank you Mr. Chair. I think one of the modifications that were first suggested to us was a cram down. I think this plan still does resemble the spirit and purpose of the gav pack proposal but it is I think grating for many to see how much it has changed.
And I won' t say And there's a lot of good in it, and then there's a lot of very reasonable compromise. And I also have come to the conclusion that it's as good as we can reasonably get. The commission staff listened to us and made some movement based on what they heard from the public. In particular, the land owners and regulated community and what they heard from the board.
I want to just, it's the Gaviota Coast can work. Just at lunch we were, for some reason it came up how many folks live in on the Gaviota Coast I went to high school with. And it's not an accident, it's because there is very little generational continuity. Most of the kids I went to Dos Pueblos with they have not been able to succeed and staying in Santa Barbara County.
The ones who have are disproportionately second generation, or third generation, or fourth generation residents of the Gaviota Coast. And it's because there has been some generational continuity there. That generational continuity needs to be preserved if we are to preserve it as a cathedral. Again, we must preserve it as a workshop in order to preserve it as And this isn't the end of that effort, and it is not perfect in pursuit of that effort. But it is good and I will support it.
Supervisor Adam?
If you find out that the experiment didn't work, it will be too late.
I agree the stakes are high and that is true. That is true. Supervisor Hartman?
Thank you. This plan represents the best that all of us working together could produce and I believe that the Hollister Ranch and the GAPAC members and the community members here are Committed to seeing it through and supportive of what we have here. So I'm a little disappointed that we don't have a 5-0 vote, but I would like to read something that was submitted today or for today's record and this is from Lila Ann Bartz Every time I travel the Gaviota Coast my blood pressure drops, my nerves untangle and my aged bones relax. My view of the world around me expands and I see then feel the beauty and power of this precious part of the California coast in any season any weather upcoast or down day or night I have never in most of my 91 years failed to send a thank you to those who have worked so hard to preserve this unique treasure I beg you adopt the Gaviota plan and modifications so that my great-grandchildren, all children can continue learning about this treasure and protect it in their turn.
So with that I'd like to make a motion that we accept staff's recommendation A through D. And I'll second that. Mr.
Chair?
Yes.
We noticed a typo in the staff's recommendation that we would like to correct for the record.
You're particularly vigilant because of Naomi and Janet's recirculate, right? Recirculate. Yeah, well we might have to write another $300,000 check now if we have to recirculate. Please
proceed. Thank you Mr. Chair, Supervisor Hartman. Item C which is to determine that the Board of Supervisors action today is not subject to CEQA references the public resources code and we transposed a couple of numbers there so the reference to the Public Resources Code section should be 21080.9
Can the maker of that motion modify her motion to reflect that correction?
Yes, please.
And the seconder is in agreement. Then we have a motion and a second?
Mr Chair before you vote if I could just make one amendment that I know Supervisor Hartman will be going
to. I want to say something after.
Sure, okay. So we have a motion on the staff recommendation with the modification of the right referring code section and there's a motion in a second. We'll do roll call please.
Ms. Hartman? Can I say something first?
Oh before roll call.
It doesn't really matter before or after, but I do want to get this in. I left off a few thank yous. One, I wanted to thank Chair Williams who has plotted through this with me on the ad hoc committee and really appreciate it. And David Lackey who's been here since the very beginning. I think we celebrated some champagne after the planning commission and I hope you'll join me today if we get Through and also Dan, the newer but nonetheless added a lot to this whole process. So thank you very much.
So there is a motion and a second any other amendments? Okay all right roll call please.
Miss Hartman? Aye. Mr. Adam? No. Mr Lavinino? No Ms Wolfe? Aye. Mr Williams? Aye Passes 3-2
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Report from Closed Session.
Chair and Supervisors, today in closed session the board considered conference with real property negotiators concerning property owned by the City of Santa Maria at 204 through 222 East Cook Street Santa Maria as well as three potential public employee appointments fire chief acting slant bar interim human resources director and planning and development director there is one reportable action concerning human resources director
Hold on just a moment. We have one thing that needs to be on the record.
Supervisors, I'm pleased to announce that you had appointed today in closed session Maria Elena De Guevara as the Interim Human Resources Director beginning November 19th 2018. She will serve until a permanent director is onboard. Ms. De Guevara has over 33 years of experience in human resources. serving in local government, higher education and industry. She will be serving again as of November 19th 2018 and we still have time to thank Lori Gentles our outgoing HR director. Lori has been here a short time but has done quite a bit and has been a great agent of change for the organization. Lori will continue to be fully engaged as our HR director until mid-November.
We will shortly adjourn to Monday, the 22nd for a special meeting at 9am. But first we have an adjournment in memory.
Just one more thing. I was remiss to report out salary. She'll be making $98.84 an hour.
Thank you Mr. Chair. He moved to Los Alamos when he was two years old. A 1961 graduate of Santa Maria High School, enlisted in the United States Navy. He was a life member of the American Legion post 534 in Orkut and the Santa Maria Elks Lodge 1538 also the Carpenters Union local 1062 in Santa Barbara but he was a member of the Honor Guard for in Santa Maria and he attended every stand down so far A big help and his name was, he went by the name Big Red.
So Big Red has passed away but he will live on in memory.
Thank you we will adjourn until Monday the 22nd at 9 AM here in Santa Barbara for a special meeting on cannabis LCP. Thank you.