BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 November 6, 2018

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role0:17 · ≈ 9:00 AM

I'll call this meeting to order. Roll call, please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:24 · ≈ 9:00 AM

Mr. Lavinino? Here. Ms. Wolfe? Here. Ms Hartman? Here. Mr Adam? Here Mr Williams?

Pledge of Allegianceceremonial · click to expand · ≈23s recited, not transcribed
UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role0:31 · ≈ 9:00 AM

Here Please join me for the Pledge of Allegiance

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role0:55 · ≈ 9:00 AM

We have the approval of minutes for two meetings on the agenda. Can I get a motion for the minutes for October 16th and the 22nd?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:03 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:07 · ≈ 9:01 AM

All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? We have several ceremonial items we will take first. Can I get a motion on A40 through A42?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:19 · ≈ 9:01 AM

So moved.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:25 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Okay, so why don't we do A40 and A42

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:31 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Move approval.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:33 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Second. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? And a motion on A41 the resolution and support of the UN Convention on the Elimination of Forms of Discrimination Against Women.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:47 · ≈ 9:01 AM

I move approval. I strongly second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:54 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Roll call, please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:55 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Mr. Lavinino. Stay. Ms. Wolfe. Aye.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:59 · ≈ 9:01 AM

I.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:00 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Mr. Adam.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:01 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Abstain.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:02 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Chair Williams.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:03 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Aye. And we will take my name off of the, I don't know how...

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:08 · ≈ 9:02 AM

We already have. It's already arranged. Joan's staff ran around and did some extra work this morning. Okay well let's take A40.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:22 · ≈ 9:02 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, our first resolution is from Supervisor Williams. It is a resolution of commendation honoring Brian Yule as the November 2018 Employee of the Month in Santa Barbara County. And if Brian can please come to the podium? And I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Whereas Brian Yule has effectively performed his duties as a member of the County Office of Emergency Storms, Floods, Wildfires and the One-Nine Debris Flow. And whereas during the Thomas Fire and ensuing One-Nine Debris Flow, Brian worked consecutively for four months, 16 or more hour days often sleeping in his office and also provides duty officer coverage 10 days a month requiring that he be called upon day and night to rapidly coordinate emergency related intelligence and information and be ready to activate the Emergency Operations Center.

And whereas, Brian has greatly improved the coordination and training of our county animal services and the non-profit animal rescue organizations Humane Society and Equine Rescue. And over a two year period has worked with stakeholders on a complex alerting system including the emergency alert system, the aware and prepare Everbridge, and the radio ready program to make this system a reliable part of the comprehensive alerting system for county residents. And whereas Brian is supported by his wife Clarissa, who without complaint recognizes the important service Brian provides to the county and is respected by his peers and supervisors for his high morale integrity. Strong principle driven work ethic, professional demeanor, and his commitment to public service.

Brian does the right thing always no matter if anyone is watching or not he's the person you want on your team. And whereas the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors wishes to thank Emergency Manager Brian Yule for his dedication and personal commitment for a service and sacrifice he has made to the residents of this county during the Thomas Fire and 1-9 debris flow. Now therefore be it resolved in order by the Board of Supervisors of County of Santa Barbara, State of California, the recognition of Emergency Manager Brian Yule as the Santa Barbara County Employee of the Month for the month of November 2018. Passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:44 · ≈ 9:04 AM

We are very proud in the CEO's office to recognize Brian Yule as our employee of the month and thank you to the board and the county for doing so. Brian is the quieter force behind OEM, No slight to our leader, the director there. But Brian is the quieter force behind OEM and you heard this statement never let them see you sweat that's Brian he is always cool and calm under fire. He is focused mission driven good humored and I have to say in my tenure here as CEO I've never seen a more dedicated or responsible employee in our organization. And that's whether he's 24 seven duty officer protecting all of us Or chairing the Aware and Prepare Education Committee.

I also have to say without exaggeration, and this is something very sincere and close to my heart, Brian Ewell. This man here is one of the main reasons we succeeded in our emergency operations following the debris flown Thomas fire. He's an unsung hero, and I am very proud and grateful that he's our employee of the month. And I know that Rob Lewin has a few comments to add.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed5:55 · ≈ 9:05 AM

Thank you CEO Miyasato. Yes, we have asked a lot of all of our public servants during the disaster but we have asked much more of Brian Ewell. He has selflessly given during the disaster because he always puts mission before self. OEM is OEM in large part because of you Brian Whether it's preparing, preventing, responding or recovering from a calamity Brian engages at all levels.

We thank Brian but we also want to take a moment to thank the spouse of the month Clarissa. Clarissa has shared Brian with us for months during the disaster while he was singularly focused on an unprecedented disaster response so Clarissa if you could come up We have some flowers for you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed7:11 · ≈ 9:07 AM

Thank you very much. I want to say, to thank everybody who took time out of their day to be here at the board and everybody else. I really do appreciate it. I'm very fortunate at OEM and in our department to be surrounded by a lot of really great people that work really, really hard. Ms. Miyasato and Mr. Lewin are excellent leaders. They lead by example. They see potential in others.

And they really want to see their employees succeed. And it makes me want to come to work and do the best job possible every single day, and so thank you very much for that and for the kind words. I also am very fortunate to have the support of my wife. Who makes it possible for me to work those long hours in the EOC. She takes care of everything else and that I just simply didn't have time to do for the better part of four months and beyond, and that's fantastic. I definitely couldn't do it without her, and so thank you very much for that. And then again everybody else who took time out of your day, thank you very much for being here. I appreciate it, and I will definitely not take this for granted. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role8:30 · ≈ 9:08 AM

Our

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed8:32 · ≈ 9:08 AM

next resolution is sponsored by Supervisor Wolf and Supervisor Hartman. It is to adopt a resolution in support of the United Nations Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and if I can have the members of the Commission for Women please come to the podium? And I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Whereas the United Nations Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, CEDAW, was adopted by the United Nation's General Assembly in December 1979. And whereas the spirit of CEDAW is rooted in the goals of the United Nations to affirm faith and fundamental human rights, and the dignity and worth of the human person, Women and men, and as CEDAW provides a comprehensive framework for challenging the various forces that have created and sustained discriminations based upon sex.

And whereas the United States is the only industrialized nation to not yet ratify CEDAW in many cities including the city of Santa Barbara have called for ratification of CDAW by the United States Congress. And whereas 163 countries representing over three-fourths of the world have now ratified or acceded to CEDAAW And whereas CEDAW, also called the International Bill of Rights for Women obligates those countries which have ratified or acceded to it to take appropriate measures to ensure the full development and advancement of women in all spheres including political educational employment health care economic social legal marriage and family relations.

As well as to modify the social and cultural patterns of conduct of women and men to eliminate prejudice, as well as customs and practices that are based on the idea of inferiority and superiority of either sex. And whereas Adherence to this principles of CEDAW on the local level will promote equal access to and equity in healthcare, economic development, educational opportunities and employment for women. And we'll also address the continuing and critical problem of violence against women. And whereas municipal governments have an appropriate and legitimate role in affirming the importance of international law in their own communities as universal norms, and to serve as guides for public policy. Now therefore be it hereby ordered

and resolved that this Board of Supervisors affirms its support of the United States ratification or accession to CEDAW passed and adopted today.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed11:25 · ≈ 9:11 AM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role11:56 · ≈ 9:11 AM

A42.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed12:01 · ≈ 9:12 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, our next resolution is sponsored by Supervisor Hartman and it is to adopt a resolution proclaiming the week of November 11th 2018 through November 17th 2018 as Nurse Practitioners Week in Santa Barbara County. And if I can have Suzette Shafee to the podium please? I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Whereas nurse practitioners are advanced practice registered nurses who advance clinical education and training building upon their initial registered nurse preparation, and there are more than 248,000 licensed nurse practitioners in the United States And approximately 22,000 in California providing primary acute and specialty care to patients of all ages and walks of life. And whereas nurse practitioners diagnose, treat, and prescribe medications and other treatments to patients through a caring patient-centered holistic model of care.

And whereas better utilization of nurse practitioners through modernized state laws and improved system policies creates better health through more accessible efficient cost effective and higher quality healthcare system. And whereas 22 states and the District of Columbia have implemented full practice authority for nurse practitioners, granting patients full and direct access to the outstanding care offered by these healthcare providers. And whereas Santa Barbara County is proud to recognize and honor the service of nurse practitioners to our county. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors hereby declare November 11th through 17, 2018 as Nurse Practitioner Week in Santa Barbara County in recognition of the countless contributions that nurse practitioners have made over the past half century and will continue to make to the health and well-being of citizens in our state.

Passed and adopted today.

PresenterSuzette ChafeeCorporate Affairs for the California Association of Nurse Practitioners Santa BaProposedself-stated13:59 · ≈ 9:13 AM

Wow, thank you. I'm Suzette Chafee, I'm a nurse practitioner and I'm Vice President of Corporate Affairs for the California Association of Nurse Practitioners Santa Barbara County Chapter. And as you heard, nurse practitioners have provided over 50 years of healthcare across the spectrum of humanity. We're especially thrilled that Charlotte, I just saw you come in. Would you join us please?

This is an unexpected pleasure. We are celebrating the second anniversary of the formation of the Santa Barbara County Chapter of Nurse Practitioners. We started a few years ago under the ages of the Channel Islands chapter, of whom Charlotte was our representative at that time. And that's why I asked you to step forward to celebrate with us this resolution.

I'd like to recognize you Charlotte for the great beginning you helped to give us. And I'd like to introduce my colleague, Vicki Diaz, nurse practitioner who is the powerhouse behind our membership. Vicki Diaz our membership chair. Thank you all very much.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role15:36 · ≈ 9:15 AM

We have an awful lot of items being pulled, so we're having A7, A9, A16, A21 and A24. So can I get a motion on the balance of the A agenda in case there's any items we haven't pulled that someone is sitting around waiting for?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed15:58 · ≈ 9:15 AM

So moved Mr. Chair. Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role16:01 · ≈ 9:16 AM

All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? A7. Pulled by the public.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed16:13 · ≈ 9:16 AM

Chair Williams and members of the Board, Administrative Item Number 7 is from Behavioral Wellness. It is to consider recommendations regarding acceptance of a $50,000 cash donation from Gordon Trust.

PresenterAlice GlykornBehavioral Wellness and I'm joined here this morning by Celeste Anderson who isProposedself-stated16:27 · ≈ 9:16 AM

Good morning Chair Williams and members of the board. I'm Alice Glykorn. I'm the Director of Behavioral Wellness and I'm joined here this morning by Celeste Anderson who is on the executive team with behavioral wellness, and by Tracy Jackson who is the representative of The Gordon Trust which has made a generous contribution to behavioral wellness of $50,000 to be used to benefit direct client services locally so we wanted to just recognize The Gordon Trust And on behalf of the board I just want to appreciate the generosity in helping make this happen.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role17:32 · ≈ 9:17 AM

A9.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed17:34 · ≈ 9:17 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, Administrative Item Number 9 is from Community Services. It is to consider recommendations regarding a proposed adjustment to the park's fee schedule for a fee reduction for veterans' annual pass at county parks. And we have a public speaker on this item and that is Chris Benton. Chris?

CommentChris BentonProposedself-stated18:01 · ≈ 9:18 AM

Good morning. My name is Chris Benton, a lifelong resident of Santa Barbara and disabled Vietnam combat veteran. Pardon me I'm a little nervous but anyway I just want to thank you for considering this item it will impact a lot of veterans that I'm involved with the Wounded Warriors Program and the Anglers Anonymous that take veterans out fishing and this will definitely help move things along so thank you very much Ms. Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8718:32 · ≈ 9:18 AM

Thank you, and I'm very delighted that the Community Service Department did go forward and reduce the fees for county parks similar to the way it's done for state parks. It's especially appropriate that it comes today after Supervisor Lavinino's very successful stand down that I'm sure he'll tell us more about And also the Lompoc Valley Fallen Warrior Memorial dedication that occurred on Saturday. So this is a way that the county can acknowledge the service of our veterans in some gesture and so I'm very pleased that it happened today, thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role19:14 · ≈ 9:19 AM

Can I get a motion on this and A7? I'll move this item.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed19:19 · ≈ 9:19 AM

Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role19:20 · ≈ 9:19 AM

All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? And I don't believe we did a motion on A7. Can I get a motion on A7?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed19:31 · ≈ 9:19 AM

So moved. Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role19:32 · ≈ 9:19 AM

All those in favor please say

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed19:34 · ≈ 9:19 AM

aye.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role19:34 · ≈ 9:19 AM

Aye. And though we did do a motion that included A-15 I did have a request for just a presentation on A- 15 so if the staffer that can mention that be available?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed19:52 · ≈ 9:19 AM

Mr. Chair, thank you. I failed to ask that this be pulled initially but and I know we've already voted on it but I think that this is an important item usually we hear this item on a D agenda. You have to read it into the record but I did think it was important to highlight really good news that we haven't heard in a very long time particularly as it relates to behavioral wellness and the Sheriff's Department I will let Mr. Frappell go into more detail but Madam Clerk if you will read this into the record.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed20:30 · ≈ 9:20 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, administrative item number 15 is from the county executive office and the auditor controller. It is to receive in file per the provisions of government code section 29126.2, the fiscal year 2018 through 2019 first quarter budget and financial status report as of September 30th, 2018 showing the status of appropriations and financing for all departmental budgets adopted by the Board of Supervisors.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed21:00 · ≈ 9:21 AM

Thank you Mr. Chair I'm happy to make a presentation on the Q1 fiscal status report. The bottom line is that the budget is performing and departments are managing within the appropriations and budget limitations established by your board in the adoption of the budget. There is a PowerPoint presentation that was attached or hopefully we'll try to get it up on the screen But in short, you'll recall that we look at both the general fund and the special operating funds and look for variances of either positive or negative in each department, in each fund.

And so we have thresholds for reportable, what we refer to as reportable items. And within the general fund those are departments that there are two reportable variances for the general fund departments. One is within our special revenues and other funds that are largely our discretionary revenues that drive funding for each of the county departments, the general fund departments. That is positive $1.7 million dollars. That's good news. Our discretionary revenues are performing Exceeding our estimated in adoption budget. So we're optimistic about that Well, obviously the Cuban report is very preliminary first quarter of the year And so we don't jump ahead and say we're definitely going to be in the positive but we do believe that we're trending In a positive way Oh

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role22:32 · ≈ 9:22 AM

Supervisors, I just want to ask the board if you wanted a full presentation. To let us know we have the full presentation. I think the bottom line and so it's at your boards discretion whether you'd like us to go through it or not. We put it on the A agenda item because it is good news and I think as Supervisor Wolf noted what you're seeing in this report and if you can get to the green yellow light slide just quickly For the first time in a long time, you see that there's only a few yellow.

And so our projection for what we do is we project out to the end of the fiscal year. You see the sheriff is not in the red. So that's very positive news. In fact, the sheriff projects a positive variance at the end of the first quarter. Salaries and benefits will continue to be monitored throughout the year. But just in contrast, this time in 17-18, the sheriff had already projected a $1.3 million deficit in the first quarter.

And in 16-17, their projection was already negative. So this is positive related to less usage of overtime than in prior years. So that's very positive news as well as behavioral wellness Not showing a negative variance at this point. So we just wanted to point that out. Mr.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed23:50 · ≈ 9:23 AM

Chair, I think it's fine that what was just presented was enough. I don't think we need to go through unless the board wants to. I just wanted to pull it to acknowledge where we are right now and some of the benefits and positive variances I don't think we need to move through the whole PowerPoint but thank you Mr. Frapwell and thank you Ms. Miyasato.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role24:18 · ≈ 9:24 AM

Can I get a, oh we did this one so we'll look at A16.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed24:25 · ≈ 9:24 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board administrative item number 16 is from general services it is to consider recommendations regarding the Cali Real campus master plan and it's in the second district.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role24:35 · ≈ 9:24 AM

And this is a request from John Harper

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8724:40 · ≈ 9:24 AM

I just noticed that there is a discussion about creating a more open space work environment for the county offices. I think there's quite a debate going back and forth. Traditional office space, then open office space. Now there was a backlash to the open and now people are trying to do a mix of things so I just wondered how we're approaching this? How we're designing workspace? What kind of consultants we use for that and whether we'll hear more about that in the future.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed25:19 · ≈ 9:25 AM

Good morning, Supervisor Hartman through the chair. We're going out with an RFP and selecting the appropriate consultant to help us. We're gonna look for people that have used the more modern technologies. We'll be looking at energy efficiencies. We want to make sure our campuses take into account the newer technologies and see what works for different offices.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8725:51 · ≈ 9:25 AM

Am I correct we're designing for the land, new structures on the land as well as the buildings? Correct. Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed25:59 · ≈ 9:25 AM

Yes.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8726:00 · ≈ 9:26 AM

So one planner does it all

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed26:02 · ≈ 9:26 AM

or one consultant? One firm yes will look at the entire campus. Okay. And taking into account what our stakeholders want and so they will in a public commenting period as well

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8726:16 · ≈ 9:26 AM

And this is for the whole 300 acres?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed26:18 · ≈ 9:26 AM

Yes, it's for the upper Cali Real, middle and lower all the way to Hollister. So up past Cathedral Oaks all the way to Hollister. Thank you. You're welcome.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed26:30 · ≈ 9:26 AM

Supervisor Wolff.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed26:32 · ≈ 9:26 AM

Thank you Mr. Chair. Ms. Powell, you can probably stay up there. We had talked about this earlier. And I just want to make sure that this is on the record, because the Eastern Goleta Valley Community Plan specifically calls out the Cayo Real campus. Because it is in the second district and really in the heart of the unincorporated area. So there's a specific policy SF-EGV-3A which I know you have.

But I want to ensure that this policy is provided to whoever receives or is awarded the contract because there are specific actions within the Goleta community plan for the campus, specifically as you noted public and community outreach. The campus is surrounded by homes And we need to ensure that the residents are also aware of what is going on and being proposed in the campus. So again, that is part of the community plan.

It does talk about community centers, solar parking lots etc., and I think a lot of that you've incorporated already but the fact that this policy exists is really important and I think you have acknowledged that will be incorporated correct? It will actually

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed28:00 · ≈ 9:28 AM

be part of the RFP. It will be in an exhibit. Great, thank you so much. You're welcome.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed28:07 · ≈ 9:28 AM

Supervisor Adam? Yep, stay. We were talking about it yesterday in preparation for this meeting and it just occurred to my office that maybe it would be better to look at the entire county, the entire workforce the entire rather than just take one campus and focus on that campus, maybe we need to step back and kind of take a look at how people do work or how we expect people to do work in the future.

And how we can best provide access to the government and to the people of the county and stuff. And maybe take a look at where all of our assets are located at this point, kind of do a global Overview And so, you know, you have a really expensive piece of real estate here that's potentially being less than optimally utilized and we could shift that into something else that might be more centrally located or, you know, something like that. And then if you're gonna do that, then that affects how the Calle Real campus backs into this one.

And so if you wanted to take a larger view of it rather than just that one, and I get whatever you build, you're gonna build the highest quality most efficient construction you can use. But it may affect it if you were at some point to move out of this building and build a new facility elsewhere and convert this into something else, some other use what would it be?

And what would it be worth, and how would work get affected at the Coyote Rail campus because we're moving someplace else with this one? And then how would that affect back into all of the other campuses like Foster Road, Lompoc stuff and whatever. I had that thought and I wanted to just say it. We're stepping up orders of magnitude in dollars that you're gonna spend to look at that, but it's nice to look at a campus, but if it doesn't really do the job then maybe that's money ill spent anyway so anyway.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed31:26 · ≈ 9:31 AM

Well, I think our approach was going to be more or less phased so that we would start at that campus and then look at Better Avia and other major campuses to see those need to be planned as well. But yeah, doing an entire county-wide master planning would be a huge undertaking. So I think we just wanted to get started because without a plan things tend to keep happening and not necessarily to benefit the county so we want to be more thoughtful in where we build and kind of look at it more holistic than Can I

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role32:17 · ≈ 9:32 AM

get a motion on A-16?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed32:20 · ≈ 9:32 AM

So moved. Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role32:22 · ≈ 9:32 AM

All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed32:31 · ≈ 9:32 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, administrative item number 21 is from probation. It is to consider recommendations regarding fiscal year 2018 through 2019 public safety realignment act plan modification

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed32:44 · ≈ 9:32 AM

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just pulled this item because it really is some good news and it actually follows up on board direction on allocating some money from our CCP into housing and the CCP both boards approved over $2 million as noted in the board letter to move towards supportive I also just wanted to compliment our representatives from HCD who have worked so cooperatively with probation to get this item moving. Kim Sheen is there and Kim thank you so much for all of your work.

Anyway, this is a great partnership between departments and there is definitely the funding available in CCP so it's being put Thank you Mr. Chair I will move this item if there are no other comments.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed34:05 · ≈ 9:34 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, administrative item number 24 is from public health. It is to consider recommendations regarding the acceptance of a Public Health Institute grant agreement. And we are going to go to Santa Maria for Claire Weinman. And Claire, we can't hear you yet.

PresenterClaire Weinman I'mGrower Shipper Association of Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties We haveProposedself-stated34:36 · ≈ 9:34 AM

Can you hear me now?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role34:37 · ≈ 9:34 AM

We sure can.

PresenterClaire Weinman I'mGrower Shipper Association of Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties We haveProposedself-stated34:39 · ≈ 9:34 AM

Perfect, good morning my name is Claire Weinman I'm the president of the Grower Shipper Association of Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties We have been responsive to environmental health and concerned members of the public on this issue. And we would be happy to continue to engage in dialogue. We've provided information about the extensive regulatory requirements enforced by Cal OSHA, among others not to mention the additional inspections conducted to comply with the leafy greens marketing agreement and other individual fire inspection programs.

We would like to express some concern with the prime grant agreements, provisions and reporting requirements between the Public Health Institute and the California Endowment. And the extent to which this would also apply to the subcontract. More specifically we are concerned that the purpose expected outcomes terms and conditions of the prime grant agreement could unfairly predispose the survey design and execution.

Specific language of concern from the package before you today includes the following PHI shall have the right to obtain, reproduce, disclose or otherwise use the data first produced by the sub-recipient. This raises concern about confidentiality and privacy of information and the extent to which this might influence participation. The statement of objectives, Exhibit A, refers to the base building organization. We are unclear what that means. We are also uncertain what is meant by power-building strategies and whether there is substantiated need.

The language for the outcome in Exhibit A makes it seem like it's a foregone conclusion. There is a subtle but important difference between conducting a needs assessment and targeting specific aspects of a single industry. We are concerned that the grant agreement between the California Endowment and the Public Health Institute includes some very specific expected outcomes in terms and conditions that could bias the outcome of the survey and next steps.

These include very restrictive communication expectations, and more specifically increased encouragement and adoption of regulatory guidelines and policies. The concern would be if these would unduly influence the survey process and outcome. Thank you for your consideration of these concerns.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role36:54 · ≈ 9:36 AM

Can I get a motion on A24? Supervisor Hartley.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8737:03 · ≈ 9:37 AM

I just wonder if we could have Dr. Del Reynoso respond to some of those points, especially about confidentiality and needs assessment.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed37:17 · ≈ 9:37 AM

Good morning Supervisor, through the Chair. So when we developed the grant we consciously decided that we would not use information that would reveal personal information of the ag workers as well as the specific producer and so The intent of this grant is to bring everyone to the table, and we collaboratively work on a survey instrument guided by researchers that we feel comfortable with. So I'm very confident that the concerns of the industry as well as the ag workers will be heard. And that we will design an instrument that is valid and that will answer the questions that we'd like to answer.

And with regards to the content of the agreement between the endowment and PHI, that speaks to a larger grant that the endowment gave PHI. I want to say that it's about a $600,000 grant and this project is a very tiny sub-grant of that larger grant.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role38:38 · ≈ 9:38 AM

I

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8738:41 · ≈ 9:38 AM

just wanted to clarify then that the growers, shippers and others will be involved in actually designing and signing off on the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed38:48 · ≈ 9:38 AM

instrument? Absolutely. We're walking into this project with no preconceived notions we're going to design the survey together and the data collection will be done by the researchers not the public health department nor any members of the collaborative thank you

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8639:05 · ≈ 9:39 AM

Supervisor let me know. Thank you Mr. Chair so the collection of the information is that going to be done at public meetings or trying to do that at the work site?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed39:17 · ≈ 9:39 AM

So we were, so the big question has been what is the state or how are field sanitation basically porta potties how clean are they and how safe are they and how accessible are they So we've looked at some data that were collected by cause. We've looked at some data that were produced by the ag producers, and so there's differences of opinion about the true state of affairs. So this collaborative is hoping that we can engage the researchers to come on to the premise and do a data collection using the survey that we all agree upon.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8639:57 · ≈ 9:39 AM

Does Cal OSHA have that data already?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed40:03 · ≈ 9:40 AM

No. So, Cal OSHA from different key informant conversations we don't have that data and the Ag Commissioner shared with us some of the data they have but it pertains to another statute so the actual state of the toilet itself we don'

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role40:31 · ≈ 9:40 AM

We always have real glamorous work for you in public health. Supervisor Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed40:41 · ≈ 9:40 AM

Thank you Mr. Chair. Ms. Van Der Rynosa, I just want to compliment you and your department for bringing this forward. This has been an issue that's been going on for a few years and we've had some anecdotal reports and I think this is an opportunity for us to get some science behind those that the next step if there are issues, that we take care of whatever issues are out there. I'm really glad our Ed Commissioner is working with you on this. I know she's been engaged and I don't think there's anything...you know your department is public health and the public health of those people who are working in the fields that have sanitary needs this is not across the board for all ag producers but there may be some that need to improve their standards.

And so I definitely think this is something that is part of your, is an important piece of your department and the fact that you have grant funding to support it and to utilize UCSB researchers is really

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ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6542:07 · ≈ 9:42 AM

Supervisor Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8742:08 · ≈ 9:42 AM

And I just wanted to add one thing to Supervisor Wolf's list of things, and that is the collaboration and getting the various parties to work together. I think that's really a stellar accomplishment and I'm delighted that that's going to go forward. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role42:24 · ≈ 9:42 AM

And I just want to appreciate both the engagement of public health and Joan Hartman. This goes back to a request that predates our time on the board about field sanitation, the first meetings where you know I attended one of them were pretty Acrimonious between folks trying to represent the interests of the field workers and growers. We feel like this is a balanced way to move forward that concentrates on getting real, as unbiased information as we can get.

And I think that's the best way forward and definitely, I've noticed the divisiveness over the issue at least is far less than it was because we're trying to concentrate on getting good information before we have a big fight. And hopefully it might provide us a path to not have a big fight. So I appreciate your department's engagement and using all the minds that you have at your disposal to provide a good path forward.

Can I get a motion on A24? So

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8743:53 · ≈ 9:43 AM

moved. Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role43:55 · ≈ 9:43 AM

All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? We'll take our first departmental item. Public comment for items not on the agenda.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed44:12 · ≈ 9:44 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, we have two requests to speak on general public comment today. We are going to begin with Greg Gorga to be followed by Ed Kolaski.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed44:24 · ≈ 9:44 AM

Good morning Mr. Chair, Supervisors. I am here as the Executive Director of the Santa Barbara Maritime Museum to thank you for your support of our exhibit The History of Oil and the Santa Barbara Channel. I have some handouts for you too for you to look at. Your funding through the Coastal Resource Enhancement Fund allowed us to create the largest exhibit the Santa Barbara Maritime Museum has created in its 18 plus years of history, spread out through six different areas of the museum. We opened on September 20th with over 250 attendees at our opening including Supervisor Wolf and a representative from Supervisor Hartman's office. And since then, I've had the pleasure of touring the exhibit with Supervisor Hartman and with State Senator Hanbeth Jackson and all of her staff both locally and from Sacramento.

We've had wonderful reviews of the exhibit in the Santa Barbara Independent, Santa Barbara Voice, and the Montecito Journal. And I am besides here to thank you, I want to invite the rest of the supervisors to come see the exhibit. I'd be happy to give you a tour of that as well and if you get there before March, you'll get to see our newest exhibit which is photography by Ralph Clevenger from his cage diving trips titled Face-To-Face with The Great Whites so thank you again for your support and thank you for your time today

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role45:41 · ≈ 9:45 AM

Supervisor Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8745:42 · ≈ 9:45 AM

And I just want to thank you for my personalized tour and I was just astonished and amazed at the breadth and depth of your knowledge, so thank you for sharing it with such enthusiasm.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed45:52 · ≈ 9:45 AM

Thank you appreciate it thanks.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed45:57 · ≈ 9:45 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board our final speaker on public comment is Ed Kolaski

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed46:03 · ≈ 9:46 AM

I'm a little overcome today with thoughts. This is our second story, which the Board of Architectural Review said is solely over the garage. Clearly it's not solely over the garage. It's over the garage kitchen and dining room but we can't remodel our house because they said it's solely over the garage. Kind of overwhelmed but The Janet Wolf is going to be retiring.

We wanted to add 700 square feet to our project roughly, 400 for a garage and 300 for living space. And the only real remark we got from our supervisor was that why do you want to add that much space to those small houses? That's too much. And that's how it's been for the last five years, not been able to do anything. There are people that before me for about 12 years have complained about trying to remodel their house in the second district and most of them just say it's just not worth it. It's just too hard to do.

For me, I've had so many things happen. I should really just summarize that instead of what I had here prepared but there are some things like you know when Hitler was elected Chancellor the first thing he did was to remove civil rights people had no civil rights and that's basically the same thing downstairs you have no civil rights you can't make remarks You get minutes of the meeting changed. It's just one thing after another thing after another thing, whether a guard is sent after you because you're sitting in the audience to be kicked out of the room. It like hail to our dictator.

In the second district, you'll be gone. Thank God. We should all rejoice. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed47:57 · ≈ 9:47 AM

don't appreciate the personal innuendo so if you could please ask the speaker to not do that? I think we had talked to county council

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role48:05 · ≈ 9:48 AM

about that. We're not going to take away your time Mr. Golaski but I think we will. There is some guidelines to this public comment and I would ask County Council to reiterate those guidelines.

CommentBarbara LindemanProposed · by introduction48:25 · ≈ 9:48 AM

Chair and supervisors, the government code provides everyone with an opportunity for public comment concerning matters within the subject matter jurisdiction of the legislative body. The board may adopt reasonable regulations concerning that. It may not prohibit public criticisms of the legislative body but our board does have a policy about essentially politeness in its procedural rules Offensive words in a public place may be regulated and that is the case law in this area. So, you know, in this case Mr. Kalaski certainly has the opportunity to provide public comment concerning the policies procedures and programs of the county but the board could certainly ask him to do so in a polite way

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed49:12 · ≈ 9:49 AM

Maybe I'll get more clarification later too from you because I'm not exactly sure what she was specifically objecting to. I've objected to the fact that the place is not run like a democracy, they have no civil rights and that's just unheard of. I don't understand that. One guy told me right at the beginning five years ago that Ed, You and I will both be dead before you get approval of that because they had such a reputation here in the second district. And you know, I have to deal with the chairman down in the Board of Architectural Review and what do you do when they order you out of the meeting? You pay for the meeting. You're supposed to show your drawings. Why can't you show your drawings? Why can't you speak? Why are we ordered out?

It's ludicrous. Okay I guess I'll leave it at that. I should summarize all this stuff the crap that we went through just trying to get a remodel my house. It's been five years of my retirement life, it's just totally changed. I'm just so damn mad about it! Thank you Mr. Kolaski.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role50:23 · ≈ 9:50 AM

We'll take the first departmental agenda item.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed50:26 · ≈ 9:50 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, departmental item number one comes from community services. It is adhering to consider recommendations regarding the Commission for Women Annual Board of Supervisors report.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed50:54 · ≈ 9:50 AM

Good morning Supervisors, Chair Williams and Supervisors. I'd like to introduce Marks Fitzwilliams who is our staff person right now temporarily for the Women's Commission. Natasha Garduno who normally is a staff person is out on maternity leave so she'll be back in January to staff this commission but Mark will start the presentation with most of the commission members here.

PresenterMargs FitzwilliamCommission for Women over the past year and a halfProposedself-stated51:14 · ≈ 9:51 AM

Thank you George Good morning Chair Williams, members of the board and CEO Miyasato. My name is Margs Fitzwilliam and it has been my greatest pleasure to work with the Commission for Women over the past year and a half. And most especially managing the seven women speak up events that took place in March countywide. I am proud to share that our Santa Barbara County Commission for Women received an Achievement Award from the National Association of Commissions for Women, NACW, for the Women Speak Up events and we are so grateful for the funding received from the CO's office that made this project possible.

Alongside powerful women in front of us, Supervisors Hartman, Wolf and CEO Miyasato, the Commission for Women are changing the present and preparing a way for the future for women and girls. With this said I would like to introduce Chair Everett who will present the annual report on the work of the commission and their outstanding achievements over the last fiscal year. Thank you

CommentAnna EverettProposedself-stated52:32 · ≈ 9:52 AM

Good morning, Chair Williams and the rest of the Board of Supervisors. It's an absolute delight to be here today. I also wanted to say good morning to the staff and all of our fellow citizens because it's election day! And it's Democracy Day, so we're really excited. Particularly following the fact that we got the CEDAW passed. It's just great to be presenting. I'm Anna Everett. I am a professor at UC Santa Barbara for the past 21 years in film and media studies. So I wasn't that excited to have to present on election day when my usual practice is to go vote and then sit and yell at the TV. But I realized that this is the perfect occasion and the perfect time to make our report.

I wanted to just begin with introducing my fellow commissioners, and I would like for them to introduce themselves and then their district. So please. Charlotte Gallet Moore representing District 1. Tracy Lavery-Beard representing

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed53:34 · ≈ 9:53 AM

Joan Hartman in District 3. Sigrid Wright representing Supervisor Wolff in District 2.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role53:40 · ≈ 9:53 AM

Suzanne Peck representing Supervisor Wolff in District 2

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed53:44 · ≈ 9:53 AM

Karen Steinwax representing Joint Department District Three. Judy Weiss representing Das Williams in one.

CommentAnna EverettProposedself-stated53:52 · ≈ 9:53 AM

And our other commissioners couldn't make it, but we have a great showing and I am just happy to present for you what we've been doing. First of all, I want to say that the Commission for Women is a nonpartisan volunteer group of powerful women advocating for women and families because we all know that when women do well, families do well the community does well so we're really proud of the work that we've done. So I want to go over these slides very very quickly So one of the things that we want to share with you are the programs and activities that we've been participating in over the last year. And this is a summary and report back on what we've been doing for 2017 and 2018, and the photo is of our retreat That just happened in June. So one of the things that we do is, we have these several subcommittees that divides our work and makes the best use of our time.

We do outreach policy, leadership development, listening sessions, advocacy, and veterans stand down which is a very, very important part of our community. And we want to give a special shout out to Supervisor Lavagnino because he has been so powerful and so forceful in that. I went to my first stand down last year, and then we just had our recent one. And we're putting together a video and will be so exciting to share that with you guys about women in the military and some of the challenges and special opportunities that they're confronting. But thank you so much Supervisor Levin for your leadership as well as other supports that you've provided for us in the North County. So I want to move on.

I'm not used to this. Okay, so one of the things that we did early in the year was the Women Speak Up events that really occurred during the month of March which is Women's History Month and we undertook this entire county-wide program because we wanted to listen to women. It's one thing to assume we know what's going on with women in our counties But we were really proud to convene these seven meetings countywide. And these are just photos, we did a fuller presentation already in North County earlier but these are just some snapshots from that and I'm just proud to talk about some of the outcomes of that event. You've already heard that we won an award and I will share a little bit more about that in a moment. But we went to Isla Vista, Goleta, Carpinteria, Lompoc, Guadalupe, Santa Maria.

And this occurred over two weeks and it was grueling but it was so exciting and rewarding. So we really enjoyed that particularly seeing our supervisors there offering their physical support as well as others. We had some really important impacts. We had an effect on the Santa Barbara Unified School District's issues around girls and dress codes that was contributing to delinquency, and so we were really proud that our work in Women Speak Up got some direct outcomes. We also were looking at some of the ways that we could further understand what's going on and Supervisor, I'm sorry Commissioner Peck has worked with the school districts again producing an educational video for Young kids who are peer leaders to help share some of the ways in which they navigate the development and the process of growing up.

And all the challenges confronting young people, particularly around sexual violence and other important issues. So a couple of other things that came out of our Women Speak Up events, and that is following up the Part 2 of that two-week intensive community engagement was really to address some of the issues around gender and sexual violence that has been plaguing our community.

I'm proud and want to acknowledge the work of Police Chief Lori Lodnow and Police Lieutenant Juan Camarino who worked with us and showed us some of the processes and some of the programs that they have in place to address these issues. So, I wanted to acknowledge commissioners Marian Partridge, Suzanne Peck, and Judy Weisbart who actually met with them to really discuss some of these important concerns.

We also had a very, very proud engagement with the National Association of Commissions for Women. And we are proudly sharing with you the award that we received, a national award for the women's speak up events. And one of the things that's important to hear about that is it wasn't just sort of willy nilly giving out but it was because our program was seen as being easily replicable Something that was a best practices that other communities could adopt. So we're really proud of that.

Also, juggling. Another outcome that we're really proud of is one of our more dedicated and hard working commissioners, Tracy Beard has been elected as president of the American Association of the Commission for Women, California Commission for Women. And so that's a real huge achievement and she's also been one of the driving forces behind CDAR, so yay Tracy. We also wanted to just kind of give you a little bit of a sense of what our national meeting was in LA. So we have some photos of the speakers and all of us who were present but it was a wonderful event and we were quite pleased with the award and the recognition. We also do collaborations with other agencies, and this year I'm in the running. We worked with the Santa Barbara Women's Political Committee and helped to prepare women who were running for office.

And we are very proud to be collaborating with the Santa Barbara Women's Political Committee on helping prepare women. So these are some of the ways in which we're actually making a contribution. Also, we had the League of Women Voters come to our meeting to demonstrate some of the ways that they and we could help to get out the vote, which is a huge aspect of our ability to keep people and women engaged in our community work.

And we're gearing up now for our commemoration of the 100th anniversary of women's suffrage, and we're really proud about that, and please be on the lookout for that. We want to share with you and engage with you how we might be able to make that a huge event because it is We have some future activities that I'd like to invite my other commissioners up to discuss. But prior to that, let me just sort of conclude my remarks by saying we were under the auspices of the administrative offices here and we have recently been moved to the Department of Community Services.

And while we were not sure what that was gonna look like, we are really excited. We have a new fearless leader, George Shabjian and he's been so supportive. Thank you, thank you. We look forward to doing wonderful stuff together even more going forward. So with that I'll turn it over to our Vice Chair Karen and Sigrid Wright just to come up and share a couple of remarks about what we're planning for the future.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:01:38 · ≈ 10:01 AM

Okay, great. Thank you. So we have put together a work plan for the year that we are in right now and we basically have five priority areas and they're very similar to what you've just heard. We focus on policy advocacy so we're working particularly, we just worked with you on the CEDAW passage this morning. We're also working with the county's legislative platform to inform and be informed by that.

Second area is we work on the education and awareness of issues that pertain to women and girls. So you've heard about the listening sessions that we did at the beginning of the year, the next few months will be spent sharing that information with other bodies and organizations. And also listening for additional issues as they come up as we meet with non-profits and agencies that attend to women and girls. We are also working to build leadership among women, particularly encouraging women to get involved with public service. So we would like to see more women on commissions and councils. You've heard about the veteran stand down that's an issue that's a specific area that will continue to work on supporting women veterans.

And then as you just heard were preparing for the centennial anniversary of the Women's Right To Vote. That's in August of 2020 but there is some work to do to prepare for that. And then along the way, I would expect us to be adaptive to community needs as they come up. So thank you.

CommentAnna EverettProposedself-stated1:03:05 · ≈ 10:03 AM

Are we done? Yeah just one last thing. I know that I asked Karen who's our vice chair to step up but she really stepped up in the midst of a very sort of crunch time for us and I'm serving my second and final term as chair so I'm going to be so excited to turn over the reins to her. But in closing, I would like to say that we're really thrilled that in District 5 we are welcoming our new commissioner Yvette Peralta. So we look forward to working with her and we look forward to getting additional commissioners appointed but thank you so much for your time and thank you so much for your support. And it's election day! Go out and vote!

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:03:46 · ≈ 10:03 AM

Thank you for your enthusiasm. Supervisor Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:03:51 · ≈ 10:03 AM

Thank you Mr. Chair and thank you to this awesome group of strong amazing women. You know as I look at you standing there and granted, I don't know all of you as well as some others. You are all just not involved in the Women's Commission but you have your hands in so many other I am so grateful for the work that you've chosen to do for the county and bring these issues to light because they are so important.

And for what you do in the greater community I am every year in awe of what the Women's Commission does. This year, in particular, I'm blown away by the breadth of what you've done and to be recognized nationally is just an incredible accomplishment so congratulations to all of you. Thank you to my commissioners Anna Sigrid and Suzanne. And of course to the others. But the three of you have just been incredible and I'm so proud to call you my commissioner. So thank you for all your work.

Thank you Mr. Chair.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.861:05:14 · ≈ 10:05 AM

Supervisor Lavanino? Thank you, Mr. Chair. I also want to congratulate you on your national award that's pretty high praise to be recognized nationally. Two things for me, one is on stand down we've seen and I'm going to be doing a report on it next week in Santa Maria. But we did see an increase in women's veterans this year. And I know for a fact that that has to do with the services that you've been providing, the outreach that you've been doing.

It's not because there wasn't a need there, but I think what happened was is women veterans probably weren't sure that it was all for them or how they fit in. You've welcomed them, made them feel comfortable being there and so I think the word's getting out to other women veterans, so I really appreciate that. One other thing for me is, for some reason I don't know if I'm snake bit or what. But like I've had a planning commissioner for eight years and I've had people on the cemetery board for eight years. All my commissions, it's a revolving door on the Women's Commission and I even went back and looked. I have a folder that I've gone through six commissioners so I just received confirmation that Sandra Fearing, who works with CALM up in Santa Maria has agreed that she will also become a commissioner.

So all my request is that you welcome them with open arms and try to keep them happy And you find a place, a niche for them so that everybody feels welcome and we have a great commission. So thank you. Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:07:02 · ≈ 10:07 AM

Thank you. I just wanted to add my appreciation we have a number of different commissions in the county and there's none more dynamic, more energetic and more productive than the Women's Commission. And you bring joy and energy to what you're doing that is contagious and really is gratifying to us. I had an opportunity to participate in a couple of the listening sessions and you created a space that really allowed women and young women to open up in a way I'd never heard before in a public setting, and I think we're still assimilating all the meaning of what You've had some clear accomplishments, but I think there's more still to come from that.

And I had an opportunity to watch some of the filming that you did at the Veterans Stand Down and there were so many wonderful things that happened there that we'll hear about next week. But one of the things is just to allow people to tell their story and that is a very powerful thing that people want to listen, they want to film it, they want to get it out there Congratulations for coming up with projects.

When you look out into the fog and you think, well what should we do? What can we agree on doing? What's useful to do? How do we spend our time? And I know as Supervisor Wolf mentioned all of you are engaged in many other things and very busy So I think it's just been amazing how you can agree on projects that are extremely valuable throughout the county and to women who live in Santa Barbara. So again, thank you so much.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:08:49 · ≈ 10:08 AM

I also want to give you my congratulations and my thanks, and I particularly am impressed with the clear program that you have of wanting to accomplish specific things in each year. That's a great model for making sure that the commission is a place where things happen. So I appreciate that. We're going to take a five-minute break before the second departmental item. Let's see if there's any public comment.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:09:18 · ≈ 10:09 AM

Chair Williams and members of the Board, we have no request to speak on this item.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:11:58 · ≈ 10:11 AM

You.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:13:25 · ≈ 10:13 AM

you Okay. you

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:19:22 · ≈ 10:19 AM

Yeah. We're reconvening for departmental item number two.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:20:05 · ≈ 10:20 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, departmental item number two is from the County Executive Office. It is a hearing to consider the 2019 Board of Supervisors schedule of meeting dates and locations.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:20:15 · ≈ 10:20 AM

You're really giving us the hard questions to debate today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:20:21 · ≈ 10:20 AM

Chair Williams, members of the board this is our annual consideration of the Board of Supervisors schedule for the upcoming year. The executive office worked with incoming chair supervisor Lavinino on a proposed schedule and the document you have before you reflects that effort. The proposed schedule incorporates 31 regular meetings as well as budget workshops and budget hearings.

It has a three week summer recess, it also includes continuing our current practice of not holding board meetings on Tuesdays that immediately follow a Monday holiday. So I'm here if you have any questions?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.861:21:01 · ≈ 10:21 AM

This is your work schedule, so show up for this. As the chair. I don't want you calling six or... This is the way it's going to be. I'm the new chair, so this is how it's going to work.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.651:21:13 · ≈ 10:21 AM

We're

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:21:15 · ≈ 10:21 AM

gonna have a tougher

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.861:21:18 · ≈ 10:21 AM

leadership. Is there any debate? There was one question Mike and I can't really remember which week it was but we wanted to bring it up before everybody and have them discuss it

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:21:30 · ≈ 10:21 AM

I believe that we were talking about the November 12th meeting, which follows Veterans Day? Correct. And that would have maintained three meetings in November so that was an option for the board if you wanted to include that or we could wait and look at that through the agenda review process next year and if we need that meeting we can always add it. This year we actually are meeting the day after Veterans Day, but that was because we only had one meeting in November because of CSAC and Thanksgiving. So that's why we're meeting next week on the day after Veterans Day. But that was the only date that sort of was in play, but it's discretion of the board.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:22:11 · ≈ 10:22 AM

I mean at some point, I think that we should get in the habit of not meeting on election day just because of its importance. But I'm not intense about that on odd number years because there may not be an election on an odd numbered year. To date normally there is but that's one of the things being on the ballot today for at least the City of Santa Barbara.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.861:22:42 · ≈ 10:22 AM

Yeah, when you're on the ballot it does make for kind of an interesting day. Right.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:22:47 · ≈ 10:22 AM

So I mean I don't have a strong preference of when we change that but at some point I really think we should change that to whatever meetings we do in November try not to do election day.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.861:23:07 · ≈ 10:23 AM

All right, well if it's all good with everybody else I'll make the motion to move the calendar. Second. All those in

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:23:15 · ≈ 10:23 AM

favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Thank you. D3.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:23:30 · ≈ 10:23 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, departmental item number three is from the county executive office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a presentation on emergency alerting in Santa Barbara County.

CommentI'm Terri NisichProposedself-stated1:23:46 · ≈ 10:23 AM

Good morning, Chair Williams and members of the board. I'm Terri Nisich, Assistant CEO and today I am joined by our undersheriff Sol Limber. And together we'll be presenting you with an overview of emergency alerting within Santa Barbara County. Today we're going to cover a little bit about a recent survey that was conducted. We'll talk about the history of alerting, some methods of alerting that we utilize here in our county, expectations on some limitations of those methods, and some continuous process improvements that we are making and some recent changes we've made within our systems.

Regarding the aware and prepare alerting, recently during the holiday fire of July 6th. Oops let me go back a second. I'd like to begin with survey information in response to questions posed by the board and the public during the holiday fire of July 6th Sheriff Fire and Office of Emergency Services as well as the CEO's office came together to evaluate protocols and systems to ensure that all aspects of alerting were examined and enhancements were made where needed While immediate consultation occurred among various departments, as a result of the questions from the public that we received. We also thought it very important to conduct a survey and hear from them about their perceptions and their needs in regards to alerting.

I have a couple of the key survey findings in front of you on this slide. We asked some very basic questions, we really wanted to have a broad overview of what was happening out in our communities. We asked if people were signed up for Aware and Prepare. 84% of those signed, 84% of the 4,000 respondents were in fact signed up for Aware and Prepare. Now keep in mind people that choose to respond to a survey are typically very involved so they took the initiative to in fact respond. So we did see that 84% of the 4,000 were signed up for Aware and Prepare. But this is very different from our total county population that has signed up for Aware and Prepare which is only 12% countywide signed up for Aware and Prepare currently.

We also asked them if they did not receive Aware and Prepare alerts tell us why? 52% weren't quite sure what Aware and Prepared was. They weren't aware of it. They weren't familiar with how the system and 39% weren't sure if they were signed up. When we talked to people about how they wanted to be alerted, 80%, a vast majority wanted to be alerted via text.

We also asked if they were using an alerting system what was the primary system? 79% used aware and prepare again only of the 4,000 respondents these are based on They also then look to ReadySBC and our County of Santa Barbara website.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:26:34 · ≈ 10:26 AM

Terry, before you leave that slide, Supervisor Adam has a question. That's not making any sense to me at all. So 84% of these 4,000 people were signed up but 52% of them didn't know what it was?

GuestTerri NisichUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:26:46 · ≈ 10:26 AM

There was the second question that was posed, it said if you do not receive aware and prepare alerts currently tell us why. So to that question why you don't receive aware and prepare 52%, so a separate question in of itself, 52% did not know what aware and prepare was.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:27:09 · ≈ 10:27 AM

Yet they're signed up for it?

GuestTerri NisichUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:27:12 · ≈ 10:27 AM

Well, I think what it really points to is the fact and I'll get to this in just a minute. Is there's a lot of confusion about what Aware & Prepare is whether or not individuals are signed up for other systems available in the county and that's something we're going to speak to in this.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:27:28 · ≈ 10:27 AM

So the 84% may or may not actually be signed up?

GuestTerri NisichUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:27:33 · ≈ 10:27 AM

They believe they were

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:27:34 · ≈ 10:27 AM

signed up. They believe they're signed up? Okay, gotcha.

GuestTerri NisichUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:27:36 · ≈ 10:27 AM

That's right.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:27:37 · ≈ 10:27 AM

I'm trying to reconcile that. It's not working for me.

GuestTerri NisichUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:27:41 · ≈ 10:27 AM

As we move through this you'll see that that's really one of the key findings is there is a lot of confusion out in the community and that's something we need to address.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:27:49 · ≈ 10:27 AM

See I thought that you had verified that 84% of them were signed up.

GuestTerri NisichUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:28:00 · ≈ 10:28 AM

No, Supervisor. We wouldn't have the ability to do that via looking at the survey.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:28:07 · ≈ 10:28 AM

And again what percentage of the population is actually signed up?

GuestTerri NisichUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:28:13 · ≈ 10:28 AM

Countywide 12% is signed up for Aware and Prepare. So that number in and of itself tells us we have more work to do to get more folks signed up within this system. And again, this survey was really meant to give us a very broad brush of what was happening out there. It did help us inform some key changes however.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:28:35 · ≈ 10:28 AM

Before you get started can I ask you who did this survey?

GuestTerri NisichUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:28:39 · ≈ 10:28 AM

This was a survey that was conducted online via SurveyMonkey. We worked with one of our communications consultants, SMPA and associates to help us draft the survey and push it out. We did send it out over our Facebook and Twitter to get people to go online to actually do the survey. We did get a very good response. It was open for several weeks. In the first several days we actually received about 800 respondents so it showed us that people were fairly interested in the topic.

But one of the things we also asked of the respondents, and I don't go into it specifically in the presentation. Is if they want to be more involved and do some focus groups and additional outreach to help inform us further on making some decisions around alerting?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:29:21 · ≈ 10:29 AM

Okay thank you.

GuestTerri NisichUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:29:22 · ≈ 10:29 AM

Sure We also talked to individuals about how alerts should be sent, how and where they should be sent. And we posed those questions as part of the survey. We asked specifically if alerts should be targeted by areas directly impacted. about how broad the notification was. So we wanted to understand what the community was looking at in that area, so we asked if alerts should be targeted by areas directly impacted.

54% of the respondents wanted alerts targeted by area. 60% wanted alerts if they were, if the event was occurring anywhere in the county. So if there was an event in South County It would lead you to believe that 60% of the respondents wanted to know even if they were in North County, if there was an incident. 71 and a half percent wanted an alert even if it was in their region, so north-south. 89%, I think this is the most pertinent, wanted alerts if the event was occurring within their zip code.

So we use this information to derive some new concepts about alerting. I did want to mention that specifically regarding aware and prepare alerting during the holiday fire, over 100 people contacted the county or the city of Goleta with concerns that they were not alerted by the aware and prepare alerts. The county specifically reviewed each of those 100 concerns because we did have information that we could research there And we determined that in all cases the people who did not receive the alert were either not registered for alerts, so similar to some of the information I just spoke to.

Or were outside the identified area where the alert was conducted. So outside of where the aware and prepare was centered individuals outside of that thought they might have or should have received an alert and they did not. Nonetheless, the recent survey indicated that even though concerned community members were not in the evacuation zone they preferred to have some type of alerting.

And then our undersheriff will speak to some of the changes we're making as a result of some of the broad information we gleaned from this survey later in the presentation. I'm going to talk a little bit about the history of alerting and where we've been and where we hope to go. In January of 2016, the county launched Aware & Prepare that I spoke about utilizing the Everbridge software that we procured. And the county first purchased this using grant funding in 2015 and continues to fund this cost of $84,000 annually in order to keep that system up and running.

In the last 12 months, over 350 Aware and Prepare alerts have been issued. So we use that system frequently. Just as a reminder, individuals must sign up at awareandprepare.org to receive these alerts or at readysbc.org In the fall of 2016, the county was permitted by FEMA and capable of now sending a new alerting methods known as WEA or the Wireless Emergency Alerts.

This federal system which currently has a 90 character limit for all messages does not require sign up and will activate most cell phones through major cell phone providers that are part of the WEA system. A WEA will activate cell phones within a geographic area identified by emergency responders. And since WEA has been available, the county has issued 35 WEA alerts making Santa Barbara County the sixth largest users of this system within the country.

Now the undersheriff is going to discuss some of our additional methods.

GuestSaul LinderUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:33:10 · ≈ 10:33 AM

Okay, good morning Chair Williams and Supervisors. I'm Saul Linder, Undersheriff for Santa Barbara County. I'd like to start with the slide of jurisdictions in Santa Barbara County. All the jurisdictions have the option of alerting their community using our Aware and Prepare Alert System. All jurisdictions have the option of sending a WEA alert when they get permission as we did from FEMA and the FCC. Montecito Fire District does use the Aware and Prepare for their alerts.

The Office of OEM is in the process of meeting with the various jurisdictions within Santa Barbara County for sending of emergency alerts within those jurisdictions. Next slide. This slide, methods of emergency notification, as you can see this list we have numerous methods to make notifications. Some require signing up with Aware and Prepare while others do not.

Those requiring sign-up are text messaging, email and the robocalls to cell phones. We'll still attempt to make door-to-door notifications, and thankfully we have an extraordinary group of volunteers with the Sheriff's Search & Rescue Team to assist us in these door-to door notifications. Next slide. I would like to take you through an incident and the process for sending out a public alert.

The incident occurs so dispatch is called or we get notification of an event coming our way and the field units, the Public Safety Units will then respond to the incident The incident commanders once there receive intel from their field units. And they order resources to address the issue, whether it be an active shooter for law enforcement or a fire department.

At this point, a precautionary alert can be sent out and I'll talk a little bit more about precautional alerts here shortly. At this point also the incident command team will determine the need for an evacuation. If an evacuation is needed, they'll deploy teams to conduct evacuations and compose the evacuation alert. Then they'll notify dispatch of the evacuation alert providing them with a script and creating what we call a box. What I mean by a box is the incident commander is actually responsible for Evacuate from this street to that street, to this street to that street. So giving the borders of the box, that way the dispatcher can put those into the alert system. The notice is then processed and the alert is sent out.

There are some limits to the alerting methods. As you can see from above there's no method that's foolproof. However not signing up for war and prepare limit citizens to four methods as compared to seven. In addition, some of the methods have their own limits. Such as robocalls can be delayed due to the amount of numbers with the phone numbers that are in the queue.

WEA, as you've heard is limited to 90 characters. So as an example, the message we could send out might be heavy rainfall occurring in Montecito area. Flash flood alert, take action to stay safe. That's 86 characters right there. Due to the WEA limitation, we will follow up WEA messaging with an aware and prepare alert to provide additional information to our community members.

Next slide. I think everybody's pretty much familiar with the EAS. When we're watching TV it'll come up and cut us off in the middle of our favorite show or we'll hear it on the radio. The emergency alerting system is fully functional in the Santa Barbara County area. To add yet another method of notification, the team has recreated Radio Ready. For those of you that still have your boom box in the garage, it's now time for you to go ahead and dust them off and put new batteries in them because battery powered radios are going to be another way that we're gonna be sending out the message.

Radio ready in this system, the radio stations that have generators and will probably be on in case of a major emergency. Have satellite phones where we can contact them directly from the EOC and provide them with information that they can go ahead and broadcast out on their radio channels. Next slide. And if you look at this group right here, these are the radio stations that are part of Radio Ready. And as you see here we do have several that are Spanish speaking.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:37:33 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Mr. Chair?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:37:35 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Supervisor Wolk?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:37:37 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Thank you. Under Sheriff thank you for and Terry, thank you for the presentation I'm especially excited to see the revamped Radio Ready and the stations that are listed here and I know you're going to be coming to us with a plan but this information I think that maybe with our PIO or CEO staff There needs to be a very succinct message out to the public. The 12% number is obviously not very good.

The public needs to know about these radio stations And I might also suggest that if you have someone in the EOC that's making these calls to the radio stations, that the same person also contact our county TV. Because I really feel that in so many ways I want to make it very clear that the use of our channel which is really a county controlled channel TV is underutilized and so if you have someone making these calls also let our TV station folks know which should be on I mean they should be available CEO Miyasato I'm sure or I'm just now switching to TV because there are certain people who don't, the 12% number may be reflective of the fact that people don' t use their cell phones all the time.

We have different age populations and so many people If we can also get them to tune into our TV station. And it's not just tuning in, but making sure that the messaging is up-to-date and I remember during the Zaka fire there were some problems with communication on the TV that the time of when something would go on TV was you know could have been a few days old so it needs to be updated frequently And I just think that is a really important tool that we haven't really been utilizing as much as we could.

So, I'm glad you've got the TV but let's also try it, I mean the radio but lets try and enhance our TV station that we have control over. Thank you Mr Chair.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:40:21 · ≈ 10:40 AM

Next slide please proceed.

GuestSaul LinderUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:40:24 · ≈ 10:40 AM

Processing and alerting improvements. The first item talks about how we've modified our computer-aided dispatch for multiple agencies. What we've basically done here is, out there in the field as I told you about the incident commander making their decisions it's very important that the incident commanders or the supervisors for the two different or three different public safety entities meet so as an example If it's a fire, your Fire Incident Commander is going to be the one who has the most information. The supervisor in the field for the Sheriff's Office or Police Department needs to meet up with them and find out what areas you need evacuated and there needs to be continual communication between the two of them. We've actually instructed them now to actually park their vehicles right next to each other so that communication continues throughout.

Well what we've done with our CAT system is The different agencies through the Dispatch Center can now see where the other unit is on their MDC in the cars. So if the Sergeant of Patrol is looking for the battalion chief who's the incident commander, he can actually see the symbol of where that car is and can meet that person out in the field.

The next item is the dispatchers. All of the dispatchers now are trained on alerting. They practice weekly, and they have unannounced exercises. And I want to say that the dispatchers have done an amazing job here because it was a culture shift for them. And the culture shift was answer the 911 lines, get those 911 lines, make sure you answer them within a certain time frame. We're now telling them somebody break away from the 911 lines and go ahead and send out an alert. So they've done a really good job adapting to that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:42:00 · ≈ 10:42 AM

Mr Chair? Supervisor

GuestSaul LinderUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:42:02 · ≈ 10:42 AM

Wolf.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:42:02 · ≈ 10:42 AM

Thank you. You know, I just want to express my appreciation to you and your staff and all the dispatchers because I recall that this was an issue during the holiday fire. And to make sure that there is training not just for the current dispatchers but any future dispatchers that everyone is trained on these alerting systems. So this is regarding the WEA alert? Okay, so that's what the dispatchers are trained to do.

Who does the aware and prepare alerts?

GuestSaul LinderUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:42:38 · ≈ 10:42 AM

They're trained to do both.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:42:40 · ≈ 10:42 AM

And if you have a fire out in the field and it's been determined What the evacuation area would be, who sends out that aware and prepare alert or I'm not talking about the WEA just the aware and prepare. Who's responsible? The sheriff for the fire or dispatch?

GuestSaul LinderUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:43:07 · ≈ 10:43 AM

If the EOC is not up and running, Dispatch Center will handle WEA's and Awareness Prepares.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:43:13 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Okay so that information...so everything is funneled through dispatch at least initially?

GuestSaul LinderUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:43:18 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Right and once the EOC is up and running we go through a transition and we transition those to the EOC.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:43:23 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Gotcha okay good thank you

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:43:28 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Thank you Mr. Chair. I just want to make a quick suggestion that in the public meetings we've had thus far I think your slide has been really good and I know we don't really want to add much but mentioning this at least in some abbreviated form I think would be really good because this is not something that we have mentioned We will add those for the December meetings. Maybe not the whole slide but just mentioning that change in protocol and increased number of cross trainings so we can get out the alerts faster.

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GuestSaul LinderUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:44:08 · ≈ 10:44 AM

The next slide we talk about field training. Our field supervisor, we talked there about the coordination with cross agency. We've had some of our managers meet with battalion chiefs at the fire department in some of their meetings. We have an all staff meeting coming up where county fire will be doing a presentation. So we understand what each other's viewpoints are in relation to evacuations and major incidents both in a fire incident or in a law incident such as an active shooter.

We are also conducting training, we've gotten some information from multiple agencies. We've conducted some training for our sheriff's personnel regarding field responsibilities including evacuation of alerts and during major incidents. The primary thing is explaining to them they have to draw that box. They need to get information, they have to create that box for the dispatcher so they can go ahead and create the alert.

We've also gotten together with OEM and we now have one policy. We've refined the protocols, and there is one merge protocol for all of this, all of the alerting. Next slide. Some other changes include the notification for awareness of emergency via WEA that will be done by Sheriff Dispatch. And keep in mind, WEA is restricted to 90 characters so the message we might only be able to send out is wildland fire in the area of whatever stay alert and take necessary action to stay safe.

What we will do is follow that up with a second WEA if there's required action within a specific area. And in a moment here, I'm gonna talk a little bit about the buffer area on the next slide. An exception might be as an incident that's quickly unfolding such as the holiday fire is very, very quickly unfolding. We may send out the first WEA might be you need to evacuate.

Also further alert notifications will be issued using the aware and prepare method both by Sheriff Dispatch and OEM once a transition is made. This will allow us to provide more information than just the 90 characters in the WEA. Next slide I mentioned the buffer area, so if you look at this and let's say the dark blue of the target is the extremely, extremely affected area.

The initial WEA might go out to a larger area such as all the way to light blue and the gray that might be just a notification of we're fighting a fire in your area or we have an active shooter incident in your area, just be aware. We may then down the road, depending on how the situation unfolds have follow ups which may be area specific. So we may get to the point where we go to the dark blue and we go okay, we need to do some evacuations here or we need to tell them a shelter in place. Those will be done with follow up messages.

Now I'll turn it over back to Assistant CEO Nisic to go ahead and close. I thought you staged that Rob.

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GuestTerri NisichUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:47:18 · ≈ 10:47 AM

Okay. And as the undersheriff just mentioned, this particular slide speaks directly to some of the desires expressed by the community as part of this survey. Notify us broadly that there's an incident occurring and then we can strategically bring that notification in a bit more specifically to notify those key areas that a very specific action is needed to be taken.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:47:41 · ≈ 10:47 AM

Mr. Chair?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:47:43 · ≈ 10:47 AM

Supervisor Wolff?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:47:44 · ≈ 10:47 AM

Thank you. I'm sure this is what occurs but I just want to confirm it and that is, it almost sounds like you are starting from the light blue moving in but it would seem to me that if there's an evacuation that dark blue, that is actually the first one that goes out Thank you.

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GuestTerri NisichUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:48:24 · ≈ 10:48 AM

I wanted to spotlight again some of the preparedness materials. I know this was in front of your board several weeks ago talking about what we are going to be speaking with the community of Montecito and Carpinteria about regarding alerting. This is our foundational preparedness materials. And it's grounded in something I think that most of our community, most of California is very familiar with which is preparation and event of wildfire.

So we keyed off a ready set go which again is used for wildfire preparation throughout California and modeled our preparedness materials after that system. As you can see here, when there is time and there's a slowly developing type of storm we're going to indicate to our communities through our aware and prepare systems to be ready. And that's indicating that there's a weather advisory and we're signaling to our community that we're watching the weather and they should be watching too and they should be tuning in the media and they should be looking at our websites in order to track what may be occurring.

We then moved to set, which we are referring to as our evacuation warning where we're again giving further notification that there may be a need to take further action. People with access and functional needs should take steps as necessary and people should really do what they need to do to get set to go. Then we would move to the actual goal, where we're signaling to the community that they need to leave and they need to leave now. And that the Sheriff's Department is actually issuing an evacuation order.

Notice here that we're using two very clear terms about evacuation warning and order. We're going to be doing some significant education to all of our communities about ready, set, go. And also evacuation warnings, what those mean to our communities and what evacuation orders mean. As you might recall in the past there were some different terminology used using the word voluntary and using the word mandatory.

We are using warning and order in all of our communications going forward. One of our key messages that you'll see as part of this is that we are stating consistently if at any time anyone feels unsafe, that they should take immediate action and do not wait for a notification to evacuate. As part of our overall education and preparedness, we are stressing personal responsibility in making sure that they're staying very much aware of an unfolding situation.

I'll also mention just in quick response to Supervisor Wolf's comment about CSB TV. This information has been put in a format that it can readily go on CSB TV, both in English and Spanish all of our communication is done in that method. And then also something that we're working on for other types of incidents is an infographic so that we can easily and quickly get slides, for lack of a better word up on CSB TV And then also one of our lessons learned in the past is we always time stamp that information that's on TV so they can see it has, in fact, been updated. They don't need to wonder if it's out of date. We're consistently updating that and putting that timestamp on there so they know that it's the most up-to-date information available.

So we are putting an emphasis on that communication area as well. In terms of next steps in regards to some of the information I mentioned regarding this survey, we learned several things. So as a result of that, we're going to be working in conjunction with our key stakeholders to increase Aware and Prepare alerting registrations and not only registrations but an understanding of the system and what it can and can't do, what some of the limitations are, how to check if you're signed up, and then to what degree you are signed up because there is a number of different levels of notification with Aware and Prepare.

We also want to provide enhanced information to the public regarding all emergency alerting notification methods, the terminology that I mentioned in terms of the warnings and orders. As well as a need for personal responsibility and preparedness and be ready for any incident should it occur in Santa Barbara County. And then in order to prepare for the storm season, as I mentioned we did hold our initial community outreach and education meetings with the communities of Montecito and Carpentria on October 25th and 29th. And we have additional meetings scheduled in December or being scheduled in December I should say.

We always want to ensure that all of our information is provided in English and Spanish and that is something that's on the top of our list to ensure that all of that communication occurs. Also on September 21st the governor signed SB 821, the emergency notification bill that was authored by Senator Jackson. And as you might know this bill authorizes each county to enter into agreement to access information of utilities, the account holder information of utilities specifically for the purpose of alerting only.

Individuals have the opportunity to opt out but we're certainly hoping that this bill In addition, there was another bill There is another bill that was signed by the Governor which requires that a library of information be developed in English and Spanish so we can more quickly and consistently notify individuals both in English and Spanish through our alerting system. So while the Office of Emergency Services, the state is working on that initially. Our office as well as the Sheriff's Department and OEM is already working on establishing some of those very basic communications so that we have our own cadre of information in Spanish so we can quickly communicate with folks.

In addition, one of the things we mentioned in the board letter is that there are a number of different studies going on regarding evacuation and evacuation behaviors. One with University of Alabama, one with UC Berkeley. And we're continuing to stay very much involved in those studies and we intend to take all of that information and incorporate that in the future to any additional improvements made in this area. So as we are introducing some of these improvements to you, we just want to make sure that you're aware that we're consistently learning from our public, learning from these studies and will continue to improve our processes as we move forward.

So the recommendation before you is to receive and file this presentation and of course the CEQA recommendation as well so we're happy to answer any questions.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:55:22 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Questions from Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:55:26 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Thank you. Thank you for the presentation and I particularly like the flowchart about what happens from the county perspective that was really helpful and kind of building on that idea, I think it's really important that we communicate to our residents their flow chart. What are they supposed to do? And the first thing is be aware of the weather If there is a condition, they should have their phone with them at night on. And we need to get that out and I think the ready set go brochure should have something to that point. This is really how people receive the information that we're getting out to them.

And then I really liked your chart in our presentation about emergency alerting materials. fully fleshed out yet, but I would like you to consider putting that up in an alert section on our ReadySBC website. The stuff about alerting is scattered in different places and we don't really map this out So I think that would be extremely helpful for people to understand the different kinds of alerts.

The 12% is really, quite frankly, abysmal given everything that we did with the emergencies at every press conference to encourage people. I'm optimistic that we're going to get more people to sign up through that. So, I'm really hopeful that SB 821 will provide something more automatic and I'm delighted to see that the county is working on that already and going to be a leader in developing a way to go forward with that.

So again, I think just how we articulate what our emergency alerting methods are to the public on SBC, ReadySBC would be extremely helpful. Those are my comments but thank you. This is, I think you've made tremendous strides at pulling all of this together. I did have just one other question and that is on the WEA system. Is it still just 90 characters? It was my understanding that it had been expanded

GuestSaul LinderUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:57:49 · ≈ 10:57 AM

It is still just 90 characters.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:57:51 · ≈ 10:57 AM

Okay but we can delimit the area that we're notifying with it whereas before it was much broader, is that?

GuestSaul LinderUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:58:01 · ≈ 10:58 AM

Yes and to go back on the characters, the government has received several complaints about the size of it and they are working on expanding the amount of characters that can be in the system.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:58:12 · ≈ 10:58 AM

Okay thank you.

GuestSaul LinderUndersheriffProposedself-stated1:58:14 · ≈ 10:58 AM

Supervisor Wolf.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:58:16 · ≈ 10:58 AM

Thank You Mr. Chair. I had some comments, but a question just occurred to me. And that has to do with Southern California Edison and the other utilities. How does that fit in if they are anticipating a shutdown of electricity in a certain area? What's the coordination that we have developed, if we have developed it yet or

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:58:50 · ≈ 10:58 AM

Chair Williams and Supervisor Wolf, the Public Safety Power Shutdown Program of course does have a plan where utilities expect that they will be notifying us about 72 hours prior to an event that may cause a power shutdown. At that point we'll be working on our plans. We do have at 48 hours and they're going to start notifying the public, they will start notifying the public through their alerting systems landlines to phone to the customers phones or text or whatever methods that they have available to them And then at 24 hours before, they'll be out in the field determining whether the event is actually occurring and then do the shutdown. We have discussed with them about how to support them in alerting the public.

And then you will notify the public once it's been confirmed. Yes, we'll do everything we can to make sure that the word is out. At the same time making sure that they're doing their part of that. Gotcha, okay yeah

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:00:18 · ≈ 11:00 AM

all right thank you Mr. Lewin while you're here I just want to thank you for all of your work in this process. You know I think things have changed and gotten better but sometimes it's almost gotten more difficult because we have so many options now and I think I think your leadership has really benefited all of us and I just want to express my gratitude to you for what you're doing at the EOC and working with our partners. So thank you for that.

I think the board has been very involved in this project and bringing all of our partners together. And I think this is not an easy process to go through because it happens quickly, it changes quickly but I think having a general policy where all of you know what to do and when That is very comforting to me that we're all speaking the language, everyone is prepared from dispatch to sheriff to fire to EOC and actually with our CEO obviously is really important.

I think the big thing right now is a plan for communication in education And I would hope that in the future, this presentation or something like it that's applicable to the public is done in every supervisor's district. Because we don't know what the next emergency is going to be. We know what we've experienced, but we don't know what we haven't experienced and what may be coming. So I just think everyone in the county needs to know about this, particularly the Radio Ready. And you know I've talked about this till I'm like crazy blue in the face. But we need those little cards that I've had since, Look at that, what timing.

These little cards, the magnetic cards that these were made back in I think from the Zaka fire or maybe it was a gap fire. But it's not on this one but it has a magnetic backing so people can keep it on their refrigerator and if there is an emergency this is where they go to. And it also has our television station. So these types of things I think give people some reassurance And kind of that readily available information. So you've definitely increased the radio stations and what we have on here, so thank you for that.

And I think you're all doing an amazing job in our community should feel Very well served with all of you working on this. So thank you for all of your work and continuing to educate the public, I mean every chance we get that's what we have to do is make sure that people are informed so thank you

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:03:40 · ≈ 11:03 AM

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And Chair Williams and Supervisors I could just add that three years ago this board decided to fund the Everbridge software purchase of the Aware and Prepare alerts and we are in this county using every available alerting process that is available to us there is nothing else out there that we and we're doing them all so we have much be proud it was your decision three years ago to do that that made that happen.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:04:04 · ≈ 11:04 AM

I do have a question what's the difference between Aware and Prepare and Nixle?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:04:09 · ≈ 11:04 AM

So Nixle was a system that we had prior to the purchase of the software that does wear and pair alerts. Everbridge also owns Nixle, so we simultaneously send a Nixle alert which is 138 character limit It is signed up easily. All someone has to do is text to 888-777 their zip code, or they can put in multiple zip codes sequentially and then they will get 138 character alerts the same time we're doing all the other alerting. We recommend people sign up for both and it's quite easy to do.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:04:44 · ≈ 11:04 AM

And how to sign up for Aware and Prepare?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:04:46 · ≈ 11:04 AM

Aware and Prepare, they go to either readysbc.org or directly to awareandprepare.org and there's a button on their computer that will take them to the sign-in sheet in five minutes you're signed up. We're glad to help anybody that needs help with that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:05:01 · ≈ 11:05 AM

Okay, thank you. And I'm going to just ask the sheriff this. I get alerts from dispatch. Is that something that... How is that tied in with this whole alerting system?

GuestSaul LinderUndersheriffProposedself-stated2:05:17 · ≈ 11:05 AM

Well we use the same system so Everbridge or is now Aware and Prepare. So when an alert comes from the Sheriff's Dispatch Center that is either Aware or Aware and Prepare.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:05:27 · ≈ 11:05 AM

So that's what I'm getting from you is the aware and prepare? Yes. Okay, thank you very much.

GuestSaul LinderUndersheriffProposedself-stated2:05:32 · ≈ 11:05 AM

And if I may Supervisor Hartman, Mr. Chair, I learned that in approximately May of next year WEA will go to 360 characters.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:05:45 · ≈ 11:05 AM

I have a question related while we're talking about Nixle. Because of the different, I mean it used to be a lot simpler. You had a vast majority of everybody had landlines. You could do multiple means but chances are you were going to get a decent percentage of those folks at least in certain hours of the day. Now, we have to try this laundry list that we've been shopping around of ways to get in touch with you.

And I guess my question is from our past incidences and if we only have 14% unaware and What do we estimate are the number of people who just don't get any alert at all in a typical incident? Because I think, I've delved pretty deeply into Montecito. There was a significant number of folks that did not or Either did not get anything or at least only got the WEA alert and we know the problems with that. It's hard to be specific enough in that many characters, so I mean do we have an estimate on that? Or a guess?

GuestTerri NisichUndersheriffProposedself-stated2:07:14 · ≈ 11:07 AM

Chair Williams, I don't have an estimate on how many Other than indicating the countywide, there's only the 12% that are. I will say just in terms of just a bit more information and giving that county wide number, there are communities that have very high numbers. For example- Sure, Montecito- Montecito is now very high. Carpentry is very high.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:07:36 · ≈ 11:07 AM

But before you did all of your outreach work, they had a number pretty comparable. Even after the disaster they had what 18%, right? And so it took an enormous amount of effort by you and your staff to get that number up higher including sending out postcards to everybody. I just want to wrestle with one, obviously one route to solve this is if the Senator's bill can be used to get those other numbers on our system from utilities.

That's still to me not clear how that's going to happen but from the text of the bill it sure sounds like we have a mandate I think it would be helpful if we could have a motion to ask for it to happen. That is one possible solution but This idea of there is a percentage of people that don't get any alert until a sheriff knocks on the door. And I think it's an important number for us to try to understand in order to go well, are most of those people who aren't getting our aware and prepared? Are they getting a Nixle?

So is that the crucial number or not? So I don't necessarily have the answer, We are not necessarily the issuer of the alert. So our two largest cities, Santa

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:09:25 · ≈ 11:09 AM

Barbara and Supervisor Hartman. Thank you two points.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:10:09 · ≈ 11:10 AM

I am a big fan of the CERT program, Community Emergency Response Teams. And I think that in the future we need to maybe get another briefing on where they are and how we're Because ultimately in an earthquake, in a situation where there's multiple fires throughout the state people have to know what to do themselves. So I think it's important that we ensure that the CERT training incorporates this information about the alerts into it and then what are people's responsibilities? In my neighborhood when the windmill fire occurred recently, we have a next door kind of system and so that was really valuable. That was the primary place we went to because the head of our association knows the person at the Buellton Fire Department and they were getting the most up-to-date information.

So in other words I think there are webs and networks out there and how we connect to them and get our messages through them and train them is really important. And I think about the radio, the battery radio. I in cleaning out my garage, I don't have one anymore. I think it's really important that that be part of the cert package and I think that we might explore whether there are any companies that would give reduced rates for pushing these because it's really important again Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:12:08 · ≈ 11:12 AM

Before we prepare, I remember being in the EOC when the lines were drawn and the sheriff would send out the landline alerts. And I know that's a method of emergency notification. I know you obviously have it here, but that seems to be almost kind of the most basic type of alerting system because sometimes cell towers will go down. Is that an accurate assumption? That if people have a landline they will always get that alert or are there problems with that as well?

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GuestTerri NisichUndersheriffProposedself-stated2:12:54 · ≈ 11:12 AM

Supervisor Wolf, through the chair. One of the things I'd point out is there's this migration away from landlines so it really goes back to what the undersheriff indicated is that we use all of those methods and try to employ virtually every factor to try to alert people.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:13:11 · ≈ 11:13 AM

So that happens at the same time? That's part of your policy? That a wear-and-prepare alert, a wheel alert if appropriate and these robocalls will go out That happens, and does that happen in dispatch?

GuestSaul LinderUndersheriffProposedself-stated2:13:27 · ≈ 11:13 AM

Yes. And the robocalls as was noted you don't have to sign up for those online because we get that information from the phone companies much like we did on reverse 911 so yes. Okay thank you

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:13:40 · ≈ 11:13 AM

You just gave me a softball for my railing against relying on a cell phone. Before he embarked on the Partnership for Resilient Communities, Chief Pat McElroy and myself did a couple years of work on trying to force CELDA 911 to become more accurate. So there's not just the notification problem with a cell phone but there is location accuracy The plea to the public is if you want to have all the methods work as they should, get a landline.

They work really well. We know exactly where you are with a landline and when someone calls 911 from a land line that's a lot more solid and has a better Statistical likelihood of timely response than calling 911 from a cell phone, so. I used to be young and one of these people that migrated away from a landline. And then I had kids, and I immediately bought a landline because the cell phone might be enough for me and maybe if I die it's not the end of the world but I want those kids to live. So I got that landline and it's worth eight bucks a month or whatever 20 bucks a month to do it.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.862:15:30 · ≈ 11:15 AM

Supervisor Labadino. Thank you Mr. Chair, so it seems like we I mean we have down the one part of the equation which is all of the ways to contact people but the equation we can't figure out is why they don't want the information. So what are other jurisdictions doing? Is there a place that we can replicate or is there some other way? 100% of the people or 99% of people pay their property tax, 99% You know, get their car registered.

How are we not able? I know it's not mandatory but what are we not doing and I don't know if there's other jurisdictions out there that just have something better than a 12% return.

GuestTerri NisichUndersheriffProposedself-stated2:16:16 · ≈ 11:16 AM

Supervisor Lavinia to the chair, we have looked at a number of other jurisdictions. We've specifically looked at those jurisdictions that have had incidents occur most recently. We've looked at LA County that is large and covers a vast area. Many of them utilize the same form of alerting systems that we do. Specifically are aware and prepare as replicated in other areas.

So that is what many folks are turning to, is that type of base of alerting systems. There's also the growth of the neighborhood alerting systems as a supervisor mentioned and I think part of that is very good because it gives another dimension to alerting but I think part of it is confusing to people because there's so many different opportunities out there they may be signed up for a little bit of everything.

And I think that's where some of our work lies, is really clarifying what's available and setting a very common platform for folks in Santa Barbara County. The other thing that I'll indicate is that looking at the new legislation that Senator Jackson brought forward, I think that gives us a lot of opportunity to reach out to those individuals that are signed up with the utility which is most folks.

And I think at that point in time when we see what numbers that brings in, it gives us another point to really analyze our information. And that should provide us with a significant amount of folks as long as people do not choose to opt out. But I think that as Mr. Lewin mentioned previously, we really are on the forefront and do a lot of alerting and have looked at a lot of different methods just by nature of our county and some of the difficulties and some of the challenges that we've had in the past and how many disasters we faced.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.862:18:02 · ≈ 11:18 AM

So before you, and you might be able to help with this too Rob is do we look at and I know we probably look at other jurisdictions around us but there's areas of the country that get hit just like we do. But I mean with hurricanes and those types of things are they doing anything different than us or are we still doing everything they're doing?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:18:21 · ≈ 11:18 AM

Mr. Chair and Supervisor Lavagnini, so I think some of the issue is we think one way or the other whether they're hearing sirens going down their streets or they're getting a WEA or their landline robocall people are getting notified in the majority of people there is always this group of people for whatever reason don't they sleep through an emergency but most people are getting information the problem that I think were also we're not talking about it so much today is what are they doing with that information If we tell them to evacuate, are they evacuating? Or if we tell them there's a red flag warning, are they taking any steps ahead of time when they get that. But people are informed 85% of the population has a cell phone 40% have landlines.

We in most cases works but not entirely, but we can wake up if you will the community to something going on. But then what is their response to that? And so we have two problems. We have how do we get everybody signed up for wear and pair because they're gonna get more information very valuable information. But how do we also then get them to respond appropriately to an emergency And the studies that are being done, particularly by the University of Alabama is addressing that sort of impact. Because as you noted in the hurricanes in Florida, Hurricane Michael three days warning said it where would hit category four there were still a lot of fatalities and a lot of injury and destruction and people why didn't they respond? So it's a problem across the country that definitely needs to be stepped up on what are the right words?

What are the right ways? Is there

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:20:05 · ≈ 11:20 AM

any requests from the public to speak?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:20:08 · ≈ 11:20 AM

Chair Williams and members of board, we have no requests to speak on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:20:12 · ≈ 11:20 AM

Can I get a motion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:20:13 · ≈ 11:20 AM

So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:20:14 · ≈ 11:20 AM

moved.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:20:15 · ≈ 11:20 AM

And a second? All second? All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed?

CommentBarbara LindemanProposed · by introduction2:20:23 · ≈ 11:20 AM

It's unanimous. Mr. Chair before you call the next item I was wondering if you could give us signal on when you plan to break for closed session so we can have people available We'll mull

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:20:34 · ≈ 11:20 AM

that over.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:20:40 · ≈ 11:20 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, departmental item number four is from Public Works and the Board of Directors for the Laguna County Sanitation District. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the formation of an improvement zone within the Laguna County Sanitation District for the operation and maintenance of a sewer lift station for the Northern Branch Jail.

CommentMarks FitzwilliamsProposed · by introduction2:20:59 · ≈ 11:20 AM

Thank you and good morning Mr. Chair, board members. Public Works is before you this morning for the next three departmental items and as the clerk mentioned we're here to discuss a proposed creation of an improvement zone so Laguna County Sanitation may assist the sheriff in the jail project with their wastewater needs on an annual basis. Our presentation this morning will be given by Marty Wilder, the county's utility manager.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:21:25 · ≈ 11:21 AM

Good morning, Chair Williams, directors on the board. This action before you today is to consider the formation of an improvement zone to pay for the facilities used to convey wastewater to the Laguna County Sanitation District Wastewater Reclamation Plant. As you may know, the topography between the reclamation plant and the jail is such that a pump station enforcement is required to move the wastewater to the wastewater plant. The facility also includes screening and control facilities.

This action is in coordination with the Sheriff's Department and General Services Department. And it's pursuant to the health and safety code which allows for the establishment of creating these benefit assessment zones to pay for the cost of site specific facilities. So today, our recommendation to the Board of Directors is to adopt a resolution establishing the benefit zone. Receive and file the assessment engineer's report and adopt the ordinance to establish the benefit assessment.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:22:30 · ≈ 11:22 AM

Is there any questions from board? Can I get a motion? Move staff recommendations. Is there a second? All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay, main event.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:22:52 · ≈ 11:22 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board depart.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:22:54 · ≈ 11:22 AM

Just for the record any requests to speak from the public?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:22:58 · ≈ 11:22 AM

Chair Williams

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:22:58 · ≈ 11:22 AM

and members of the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:22:59 · ≈ 11:22 AM

board we had no requests to speak on that last item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:23:02 · ≈ 11:23 AM

Feel free to interrupt me if I dispense with that.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:23:07 · ≈ 11:23 AM

Chair Williams, members of the board. Our next item is departmental item number five. It is also from Public Works. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an amendment of County Code chapters 9, 23 and 28 for business operations encroaching on sidewalks or in the county right-of-way.

CommentMarks FitzwilliamsProposed · by introduction2:23:24 · ≈ 11:23 AM

Thank you Madam Clerk and thank you Mr. Chair and Board Members again. This item really, Board, is an opportunity for your board to be a leader in our community once again looking at how people make their commutes if you will on that last mile of their trip or critical portion of a commuting trip. And as you know today we're going to talk about scooters, we're going to talk about bicycles, and we're also going to kind of talk about our outdoor dining program but scooters have been in the news lately And as you may have heard, the city of Santa Barbara recently had a drop from a scooter company in their community.

They had to rush and they did an emergency ordinance to ban scooters. Goleta is going to be considering an ordinance here shortly, and UCSB has just banned scooters altogether from their campus. So this is our leadership opportunity here as a county to work on an ordinance, to work with these other agencies here on the South Coast and regionally Commuting needs, I think today and for the future for commuters as well as people making kind of short trips. It gives us an opportunity to do something different other than a single passenger vehicle trip to run an errand. So that's what we're going to talk about here in a little bit. Talk about this ordinance that scratches the surface of the future and how people are going to move in our community and really throughout the country at some point.

I am going to turn the presentation over now to Chris Sneddon, our Deputy Director of Transportation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:24:56 · ≈ 11:24 AM

Good morning and I have Gary Smarter, Traffic Engineer here as well in case you want to get some technical questions answered. The reason we're here is that there currently are no county regulations for scooters or shared mobility devices or anything like that. So absent any changes to county ordinances, there's no restriction on what they're doing other than things like safety issues or things like that but there's really no way to regulate them currently so that's what prompted us to start looking at these ordinances and bring some recommendations to you for consideration.

Believe it or not, the premise we were working under was to try and keep it simple to get something on the books. But as you can see, we're ending up touching three chapters of county code. And I really appreciate County Council because there's a huge amount of work going on with this right now and it's evolving really quickly so it's almost like a day-to-day or week-to week. There's new information coming out that governs how these things need to be done.

Today we're going to talk about the current status of car share, bike share, scooter share and outdoor dining. And I'll talk a little bit about how that ties in with those other share programs. And then proposed updates to these three different chapters and then we'll look at recommendations and next steps. And also there's gonna be a couple minor modifications that will be pointed out at the end some minor edits.

So again, the reason we're here is because scooters have arrived. This is currently a South Coast or South County issue and in talking, we've talked to several vendors and different agencies. And so far really most interest has been expressed in particularly just the Isla Vista area right now. A lot of counties don't have to worry about these types of ordinances because the more urban centers are incorporated but our county has the unique feature of Isla Vista which It's an incredibly dense urban area that happens to be an unincorporated area.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:27:15 · ≈ 11:27 AM

Mr. Sneddon, when we met yesterday I'd asked about the possibility of this ordinance pertaining solely to Isla Vista since of us discussing this and as you just mentioned almost no other counties are doing this. And maybe this is a question for Mr. Gazzone, can we do that? Just wondering at this point because I know you were going to check into that.

CommentBarbara LindemanProposed · by introduction2:27:51 · ≈ 11:27 AM

Chair and Supervisors, with me today is Deputy County Counsel Susan McKenzie who has actually done a ton of work preparing for this. And one of our starting points was vehicle code section 21 which is a general preemption standard in this area and it basically says that in areas that the state has touched for regulating broadly defined vehicles counties are generally preempted and probably Largest area that's still open to the county under street and highway code is the police power as to sidewalks and curbs. So I think, as the board is deliberating today and talking with public works, sidewalks and curbs are probably the authority area for counties and cities and regulation in other areas.

Of the roadway or for example, helmets are addressed by the vehicle code now so that the county has less discretion in that area more discretion on curbs and sidewalks. And generally going directly to your question, I'm going to go ahead and ask the question. What is a vehicle code?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:29:23 · ≈ 11:29 AM

Thank you for that. One thing I learned from this exercise is that we do have a special provision in Isla Vista for zip cars which we don't have in other parts of the county so that was why I was at so we did we do do it for that so what I'm hearing is that we could do it if we had made if Supervisor

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CommentBarbara LindemanProposed · by introduction2:29:52 · ≈ 11:29 AM

Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:30:09 · ≈ 11:30 AM

I just wanted to respond to what Supervisor Wolf said from a practical viewpoint. These are becoming more common in the San Ynez Valley even, in unincorporated areas such as Los Olivos. We'll see them in Los Alamos. And so I think that we can't. Yes, Isla Vista is more densely populated but I do believe this is something that is going to be seen throughout our county. Moreover, I think it's important that we try to work with other jurisdictions to have a regional approach and we did in fact discuss that at our last SBCAG board meeting and suggested as the first strategy So I unless there's some reason that I haven't heard yet. I think it is a countywide and not just specific to Isla Vista

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:31:10 · ≈ 11:31 AM

Supervisor Wolf. I mean, I'll chime in too. I'm interested in it countywide as well because the current state of affairs is there's no rules and I just think that kind of invites the situation where companies roll up and think it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission because there's really no accountability and they just I just bring it up as a possible

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:32:04 · ≈ 11:32 AM

It was, you know Mr. McAuliffe talked about the last mile and I think Isla Vista itself is a bit more urbanized and there's a lot of reasoning behind why it would just be in Isla Vista. I guess if they're in Los Olivos or Los Alamos I would be concerned about that. I'm concerned about it in unincorporated areas of eastern Goleta Valley. I think we do have the opportunity and we could ban the use of these scooters in other areas but allow it potentially in Isla Vista. I am not suggesting that is what And I guess if we could do it in Isla Vista maybe, I think this is what maybe is the crux of my problem. Is that we haven't really reached out to the community to talk about this so I know in my area that I have received complaints about these just being dropped off on Hollister and I think There may be other communities that would embrace this.

So we're kind of moving forward and I just worry that we haven't really reached out to, I know we haven't reached out to residents in my district. The focus has been on Isla Vista and that's why I think you could do Isla Vista but just ban it everywhere else until the community is advised. That's just my thoughts at this point, but we'll see how the discussion goes.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:34:03 · ≈ 11:34 AM

Supervisor Adam.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:34:06 · ≈ 11:34 AM

Are we going to finish the entire presentation? I would like to do that too. Okay because if we're gonna finish you know I have something I want to say but I'm up on a couple more slides. Please proceed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:34:24 · ≈ 11:34 AM

Okay, thank you. I think maybe it would be helpful just to back up for just a second and say that what we're here to do is to recommend some changes in the ordinance and what that does is creates a framework for regulating. So in the absence of that and what you've heard from county council that there are state vehicle codes that supersede our ability to ban or to control them and How we can, the areas that we can find where we can regulate them. So the ordinance will set that framework then if it's the ordinance changes are approved we come back to your board with a resolution to set fees and to administer the program and some other things.

The next level of framework is to have a permit, encroachment permit that they would have to get and that will have the conditions. And those are where we have the room to put different kinds of regulations on them. So I just want to give you that framework before we move forward given that I can see there's already been a lot of thought about what the possibilities are out there so.

As Scott mentioned, they already came and went in Santa Barbara. I don't think the story is done there. Santa Barbara has done an emergency ordinance for now but I think they're still mulling over what their options are for the future. The county, they've been in Isla Vista since September. We have two companies that are operating out there and UCSB as Scott mentioned has banned them. And City of Goleta I think is weighing their options currently and something probably will be coming there soon. This is a picture from Isla Vista so you can see this That's kind of how the operation begins in the morning. Scooters are set out, on the left you see that if you bring it up on a phone app it tells you locations where the scooters are and then you just get on them.

You activate them with your app, ride them where you want to go and Deactivate them and say, I finished my ride and the scooter's left there. At the end of the day, the scooter companies come pick up the scooters and charge them up and then reposition them to the best location for them to be used the next day. Looking at the ordinances, and this is looking at the ordinances and what's kind of actually going on right now. So for car share there was a ordinance in the 2010-2012 time frame to set up a pilot program to run them in Isla Vista as part of things that were happening with the RDA.

And the fact that parking is so impacted in Isla Vista and the county has been working for 15 plus years trying Reduce the use of cars in Isla Vista. So there was a temporary ordinance that's since expired and needs to be cleaned up for those operations. Bike share has just resolution allowing the parking spaces to be delineated for them, and scooters have nothing currently in county code.

As far as the use of right-of-way for business purposes, and this is where the outdoor dining comes in. So our current model for businesses using the public space for their operations is through the Outdoor Dining Program in Isla Vista. It's been in place again as part of the RDA things that were going on. And it's basically if you're gonna use public space to operate a business and generate revenue, you have to pay a fee for the use of that space.

And folding these programs into that model is where we get into changing that section of the county code. This is what Chapter 9 looks like currently. So it defines and regulates bicycles, it doesn't talk anything about identifying locations for parking or exclusive parking, or it doesn't talk about e-bikes or motorized bikes or anything like that. So those are the things and there'll be a subsequent slide that kind of digs into that a little bit. And just something to note is on demand services have begun in Isla Vista. It's called Hopper, and they've been operating since September as well.

Car share, as I mentioned, the first initiated in 2010. As Supervisor Wolfe mentioned, locations for zip car exclusive parking have to be done by resolution through the Board of Supervisors. So the Board of Supervisors approved, I think it's two spaces, Gary and Isla Vista? For a zip car parking and this is what they look like so nobody else can park there.

And then scooters, again are not. I have begun and there's nothing in the code currently so that's the current status for that. Outdoor dining as I mentioned it was set up in that same time frame to establish guidelines for use of the right away. So what it does is allows you to establish fees to administer programs and it also lets you regulate so that you don't have kind of a wild west situation of what people are doing in the right away.

Okay, so the purpose of these modifications are to avoid these kinds of things. These aren't in the county by the way. These are other places but what the main goal is to ensure or have these companies ensure that they're operating safely and they're not creating a nuisance with their use at the right away.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:40:15 · ≈ 11:40 AM

And our approach was to- Before you move on from that slide Supervisor Adam.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:40:20 · ≈ 11:40 AM

Well on page 3 of the board letter it says denial I think provisions for denial of permits. Did you mean revocation?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:40:36 · ≈ 11:40 AM

Supervisor Adam, through the chair. For denial would be a denial of the renewal permit. So if you get their annual permits and they're bad actor through the year, you could be denied a new permit.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:40:49 · ≈ 11:40 AM

You get a new permit every year? Okay, all right because the thing is that right there is the problem that we're trying to... I don't think anybody has a problem with all the other pictures up to now But if you wind up with any of those, then people are going to complain a lot. So I think you've got to be able to revoke a permit if it becomes egregious even during a single year. I think you need to be able to put the provisions in there to be able to revoke that permit and maybe it's not.

You know, just denying them the permit next year might not be good enough depending on the situation. I don't know.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:41:39 · ≈ 11:41 AM

Please proceed. Maybe it would be helpful to us to have an assessment from County Council of whether there is a provision that we can include to do that that is effective because I think that's the question is whether revocation Is effective as a policy tool, whereas non-renewal is usually more easier to accomplish. But please proceed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:42:09 · ≈ 11:42 AM

Thank you. So again, the approach was there's a lot of quickly evolving things going on in this industry and the practice of it and everything. And we felt the best approach was to get an ordinance on the book so we could begin to regulate but we're recognizing that there's a decent chance that the ordinances and resolutions and permit conditions will need to be adjusted over time as things evolve in the industry.

So these are the recommended modifications, or sort of an overview of the recommended modifications. An interesting note is that Chapter 9 used to be, it started out as just Chapter 9 bicycles in 1903 I think? And it was because these new fangled gadgets had come out with air tires that could go faster and ride smoother on the road, and they were disrupting the other types. Other modes of transportation, like horses and people walking and stuff like that. So they were worried about the bicycles interfering with other modes.

Now we're tacking on all these other newer devices since 1903 that have come to share the right-of-way. Again, bicycles is now subdivided and these are following the state classifications and they have implications. So it's these e-bikes can vary from just a pedal assisted bike to bicycle that goes almost 30 miles an hour. So we have to separate out those classes so that then you can say the super fast bikes shouldn't be on the Class 1 bike paths or in the lower speed ones are okay.

Skateboards were already defined, but they just got moved down as we put in these new things. And then scooters are defined as well as how you would designate spaces for use of parking at ease and then we talk about businesses that offer these services and that again is providing a framework for the regulation And then it does provide guidance on how the regulation will be for operating the allowed uses and then how we'll go about doing impounding fees and compliance through resolution and permit conditions.

Chapter 23 pertains to parking, so things like parking restriction and oversized vehicles and trailer restrictions and things like that. We're modifying that to talk about the use of the public space for things like parking. These are exclusive parking for scooters and bicycles. And then chapter 28 again is taking the IV outdoor dining ordinance and making it county wide, but also expanding it to include business operations in the right away beyond restaurants. So again if you have a restaurant or business operating adjacent to the right of way then it regulates this area that's within the right of way.

So the next steps would be if these recommendations are approved, to come back to your board with a resolution that would set the fees for the annual permits and impounding. And also to develop an annual permit package with the conditions for things like insurance requirements, fleet size limits, data sharing requirements, requirements for renewal, all those types of things.

As Supervisor Hartman mentioned, we're also in talks regionally. We kind of, in an ideal situation this all would have been potentially a uniformly applied thing regionally but just the way it developed and the speed it developed. Different agencies are kind of having to find their own way, and maybe ultimately there'll be a regional approach that's the best. So we're starting to talk more or talking more with UCSB, City of Goleta, City of Santa Barbara about if we want to look at a more regional way of doing this and then come together. And again, we have the ability to come back to your board and change the ordinances as needed if something like that were to materialize. The other thing we'll be looking is That we'll be coming back with is the potential fee structure.

So typically if there's a permit fee you pay for the process, the application and for us to verify everything then there may be like a monthly per vehicle fee. And then there's fees if they're setting aside parking spaces in the right of way and then finally that impound fee.

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CommentBarbara LindemanProposed · by introduction2:46:50 · ≈ 11:46 AM

Mr. Gazzani? Chair and Supervisors, I just wanted to respond to the permit revocation question that to my right Deputy County Counsel Susan McKenzie has the street and highway codes that would authorize that and it's consistent with the red line change in proposed ordinance or the changes to county code section 28 at 28-133 there is a general discussion of revocation or suspension of these encroachment permits And that's existing in the county code and will remain after these proposed changes.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:47:26 · ≈ 11:47 AM

That's the third page of that code. Mr. Labanino. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.862:47:38 · ≈ 11:47 AM

So without reading through the entire chapter nine, cuz I was down in San Diego and I saw these things were just everywhere. But they have a really cool downtown and it was pretty nice because I was about a mile away from downtown in the hotel and you could jump on these things and go. But I did notice that they all kind of collected like your pictures were shown. Do we require? It just seems like if we required them to Cuz it's on your app if you required it to be into a, like bikes or rack and it stood up. And then that's how the app stopped.

Do we have any requirement for or have thought about racks at all? Because bikes seem to work okay, people don't leave them strewn about but those scooters are just everywhere.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:48:26 · ≈ 11:48 AM

Supervisor Levenson. So, for example the bicycle bike sharing company. pays less money if they return the bike to the box area there. And so, there's potential to do things like that particularly in partnership with the vendors.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.652:49:13 · ≈ 11:49 AM

Okay, thanks. Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:49:18 · ≈ 11:49 AM

What are the economic benefits for the county? Are we allowed to reap some benefits or can we just charge what it takes to do the regulatory program

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:49:35 · ≈ 11:49 AM

So I don't know if county council wants to weigh in more than this. My understanding is there's a lot of discussions on that front, and I'm not sure that it's completely settled right now. So some agencies are taking the approach Of trying to generate revenue through this to do other things. We've taken again, trying to start with a simple approach of trying to generate enough fees to administer the program and then if there's additional money beyond that to make betterments for the area for things like scooter operations and things like that.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:50:18 · ≈ 11:50 AM

I think the question, with fees it needs to be cost recovery. But I think the question is in rentals of the public right-of-way what is the restriction on what we can use that revenue for?

CommentBarbara LindemanProposed · by introduction2:50:31 · ≈ 11:50 AM

Chair and Supervisors, so we had looked at this and the package in front of you is essentially set up as a cost recovery fee mechanism. The cousin of that would be a franchise for some potential profit to the county which is a more complicated area. Our recommendation was to start with the fee because this is such a quickly evolving area and see what happened with the state law on that. So we didn't end up with Supervisor Wolk.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:51:18 · ≈ 11:51 AM

Thank you Mr. Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:51:33 · ≈ 11:51 AM

Thank you for the meeting yesterday and the suggested edits. They're very helpful so these are this is not part of the presentation it's just for clarity while I'm talking about this these are suggested edits to the ordinance and Just to make it simpler to talk about, if you look at, and they're all in chapter nine. But for clarity changing the whereas where it says fleet vehicles to car share. So just the nomenclature of fleet vehicles is a little confusing and I think car share makes that a little more clear. And then section 9.2.

There it just adding the green there where it says or SMD shared mobility devices. That was just got in on accidentally striking hid when we were striking and hiding some other stuff, so that's intended to pertain to both of those. And then there was one more which 9.5 under impoundment, the noticing. So this is for abandoned vehicles and we use this for abandoned bicycles in Isla Vista. If there was an abandoned scooter we would put a notice on it. And we just missed the second one where it says you'll put it, we'll put a notice on a bicycle or shared mobility device warning them that we're going to impound it.

Those are the three changes we were recommending and including in the when we bring this back for a second reading.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:53:24 · ≈ 11:53 AM

Supervisor Wolff?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:53:25 · ≈ 11:53 AM

Thank you, thank you Mr. Sneddon for that so So this is coming back to us, and I think you said something about in one of your slides that we will talk about insurance. But in chapter 28 there's already a section that talks about insurance of $1 million. So if we approve this does that still come back to us? That it could change? Or are we set on that amount?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:54:05 · ≈ 11:54 AM

So, we worked with the risk on that and we would be coming back and the conditions would be in the encroachment permit. So it will be coming back with the encrochement permit with the different conditions that will be on these including the insurance requirements and fees. Okay. So it will reference this section of the county code.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:54:26 · ≈ 11:54 AM

Okay and in that chapter 28 there's a lot of requirements under the issuance of annual business purposes for an encroachment permit. And the last one, number 8 says a limitation of fleet size for SMDs. Does that will that specifically come back to the board so that we have a discussion on what is that limitation of fleet size?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:55:01 · ≈ 11:55 AM

Supervisor Wolf, through the chair. We could bring that back. We put it in the permit condition section so that again because its evolving really quickly for example people are talking now and the city of LA has a new model of data tracking that suggests its better not to limit fleet size but to limit to only highly productive or highly used vehicles Starting to see scooters getting used only once or twice a day that people have to reduce their fleet size until they're using them more times. So in that case, if you had limited fleet size it might not have achieved the goal of Avoiding over saturation. So we left that in the permit condition section so that we could change it Flexibly on the as needed but we we could certainly bring that back with the resolution for discussion

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:55:53 · ≈ 11:55 AM

Well, how how do we as a county know that I guess the business owner would know? How often things are being used today will they share that information with us and

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:56:07 · ≈ 11:56 AM

Supervisor Wolf to the chair yes that's another condition that's typically put on is that they have to track and share all the data for all the use of their vehicles.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:56:16 · ≈ 11:56 AM

Okay and then another question Mr. Chair if I could so you talked about that the owner, the fleet owner goes around at the end of the day and picks up these scooters do we know do they come where did I don' t know if they would go to the second district around Hollister and Turnpike in particular and pick them up. It' s hard for me to imagine at the end of each day that they have someone going around the south coast picking up the scooters but if that is what they do then I think that should be part of their condition of a permit. That Do you know though if they're doing that now?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:57:05 · ≈ 11:57 AM

Supervisor Wolf to the chair. Yes, so the scooters are picked up daily and Recharged at the end of the day their recharge and then their place So they have what they do is they essentially crowdsource it so they get people who live locally Can sign up to be I don't remember what they call them But they they sign up and they say yes, I'm gonna pick up You know five scooters a day or ten scooters a day and the company tells them okay go get these I think that would be an important condition

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:57:59 · ≈ 11:57 AM

To eliminate the concerns I have and something that Mr. Lavagnino said he saw in San Diego. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:58:13 · ≈ 11:58 AM

Any requests to speak?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:58:16 · ≈ 11:58 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board we have no requests to speak on this item.

CommentBarbara LindemanProposed · by introduction2:58:19 · ≈ 11:58 AM

Mr. Gazzani? So, Chair if the board was interested in pursuing the recommended actions that Public Works has provided today the only change to the text and I'll just ask for an agreement from Mr. Stent on this would be that recommended action A would be with the addition of the words with the text changes shown on PowerPoint slides number 13 and 14 concerning chapter 9. That's the only changes I've heard so far but you haven't begun your deliberation yet?

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:58:54 · ≈ 11:58 AM

Other comments? Supervisor Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:59:00 · ≈ 11:59 AM

I remember this was sort of science fiction about 20 years ago, that we would have on-demand devices like this that people would share and like some other things that we're experiencing in the county it's disruptive but I think As Mr. McAulpin said, it's kind of the alternative transportation of the future and I am really grateful to Mr. Sneddon and your team for putting this together. It's...I have to get my mind around it. This is a framework. This is sort of authorizing in the resolution and the permits will come later and I assume we'll get a chance to talk about that and we'll have a regional discussion that you're already working on So that we're well coordinated because people don't really know what jurisdiction they're in and the better, the more we can coordinate I think the more seamless the experience will be.

I am very interested in the revenue generation possibilities and so I would like us to get that when you come back with it Just cost recovery, I mean there's going to be wear and tear on the roads. And I think of people for example where the sidewalk encroachment is for restaurants that there should be ways to generate revenue that can support the communities or support these uses better than otherwise would happen so again thank you both of you and all of you for doing such a great job getting us out in front on this.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:00:40 · ≈ 12:00 PM

I want to agree. I think that both it's good to be equipped, both for some methods of accountability towards the companies but also a general framework and an incentive system where we have a reason for folks to park it in where we want them to be parked. And I think To maybe give a more specific example to Supervisor Hartman's point, there are going to be some corners in Isla Vista that are going to be enormously lucrative for some private company. To me in a community where Isla Vista has insufficient tax base to support the services that we provide. So if there is a constitutional way in order for To make a good deal for the taxpayer, where they are getting a return for us giving part of the right away to a private company. And in exchange that private company is taking care of some of the cost to provide services in a place like Isla Vista.

That to me would be the ideal future of this. I'm happy with this as an interim step, but I think there's going to be some places where it would be counterproductive for us to charge more than cost recovery. There are going to be some places where they're just going to make a lot of money from just a handful of corners that are enormously popular. And it would be sort of painfully ironic if that was in a place like Isla Vista where we have a hard time coming up with the money to provide basic public safety services.

So, that's where I hope we'll move forward on. Is there motion?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.873:02:50 · ≈ 12:02 PM

I move staff's recommendation with Mr. Gazzone's corrections about slides 13 and 14 dealing with chapter 9.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:03:00 · ≈ 12:03 PM

And I'll second. Okay, second by Mr. Lavinino. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? That's unanimous and we will break for closed session. Can you give us a preview of closed session, Mr. Gazzaniga?

CommentBarbara LindemanProposed · by introduction3:03:18 · ≈ 12:03 PM

Chair and Supervisors, today in closed session the board has agendized to consider four matters. The first is existing litigation Santa Barbara Channel Keeper versus County of Santa Barbara. The next two related matters are San Luis Obispo Coast Keeper versus Santa Maria Valley Water Conservation District. And the other case of Santa Maria Valley Water Conservation District versus Adam et al. And the fourth item is Conference with Labor Negotiators concerning Santa Barbara County Firefighters Local 2046. My estimate for closed session is about one hour.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:03:51 · ≈ 12:03 PM

Okay, Mr. Chair I will be recusing myself from the middle two items.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:08:16 · ≈ 12:08 PM

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:12:15 · ≈ 1:12 PM

We'll call this meeting to order. Report from closed session.

CommentBarbara LindemanProposed · by introduction4:12:21 · ≈ 1:12 PM

Chair and supervisors, today in closed session the board considered four matters. Three matters of existing litigation. The first was Santa Barbara Channel Keeper versus County of Santa Barbara then San Luis Obispo Coast Keeper versus Santa Maria Valley Water Conservation District. And the third was Santa Maria Valley Water Conservation District v. Adam with Supervisor Adam recusing on matters number two and three. The fourth matter was employee negotiations, labor negotiations with Santa Barbara County Firefighters Local 2046. There are no reportable actions.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:12:56 · ≈ 1:12 PM

Thank you and to the public works team sorry for how long it's been but I appreciate your patience and take it away.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:13:05 · ≈ 1:13 PM

Chair Williams, members of the board, departmental item number six is from Public Works Board of Directors for the Water Agency. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Santa Barbara County-wide integrated storm water resource plan

CommentMarks FitzwilliamsProposed · by introduction4:13:16 · ≈ 1:13 PM

Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and board members. This next item as the clerk mentioned is about to present the Santa Barbara County integrated storm water resource plan. We appreciate your patience with us this morning and a few more minutes here and this will be our last item of the day so thank you Matt Young from the Water Agency we'll be doing the presentation

CommentEd KolaskiProposed · by introduction4:13:38 · ≈ 1:13 PM

Good afternoon. The Santa Barbara County-wide Integrated Stormwater Resources Plan was prepared in response to state legislation. Proposition 1 set aside $200 million for matching grants for storm water projects. SB 985 requires the development of an approved storm water resources plan to receive state grant funding for storm water projects. The plan before you today is intended to meet that requirement and make grant funding for storm water projects accessible going forward.

The State Water Resources Control Board has set detailed requirements for what needs to be included in a stormwater plan. The plan must identify and describe watersheds, identify pollutant sources, and be consistent with other plans and permits in the study area, and prioritize projects based on multiple benefits. Specific benefits to be considered include water quality improvements, water supply enhancements, flood management, and environmental community benefits.

Stormwater plans must also be developed with extensive community participation and engagement. Ultimately, plans are submitted to the Integrated Regional Water Management Group for adoption into the Integrated Regional Water Management Plan or WMP. At the beginning of the planning process, the water agency reached out to all cities, water purveyors and stormwater permittees in the county to invite them to participate in plan development as cooperating entities.

Eight agencies agreed to partner in this collaborative development of the plan, including the cities of Builton, Carpinteria, Guadalupe, Solvang and Goleta. The Carpinteria Valley and Montecito Water Districts in UC Santa Barbara. These agencies, the County Water Agency, the State Water Resources Control Board, and the Regional Water Quality Control Board comprised a technical advisory committee that guided our consultant GeoSyntech in the technical development of the plan.

Stakeholders provided critical input over a series of public meetings at various points in the planning process. A key portion of the plan is a list of projects with quantified benefits that are eligible for stormwater grant funding. To develop this list, parcels throughout the county were first screened based on their physical suitability for potential stormwater projects.

Then projects were selected and conceptually designed for two suitable parcels within the jurisdictions of each of the cooperating entities for a total of 18. Next, benefits for each project were quantified for each type and given an overall multi-benefit index score. Projects were then prioritized based on their score, the presence of a willing landowner, and agency commitment to maintenance.

Finally, five projects were chosen by the Technical Advisory Committee for Advanced Project Development which included a feasibility assessment, preliminary engineering design, and preliminary CEQA analysis. This map shows the 18 conceptual projects that were selected by the Technical Advisory Committee. They're distributed throughout the county and include infiltration basins, treatment wetlands, dry wells, creek infiltration and bioretention systems.

The final Santa Barbara County-wide plan meets all state requirements for an approved integrated stormwater resources plan. It is an adaptive plan that can be implemented now and updated in the future. It includes a list of carefully identified and ranked projects, including project concepts with quantified benefits and projects with feasibility assessments and implementation work plans.

This shows the list of quantified projects included in the plan. You can see that each project has a multi-benefit index score as well as a prioritization. Extensive details on the process for identifying, scoring and prioritizing projects are included in the appendices of the plan. The process is transparent and replicable for future projects. Next steps include submitting the plan to the state board for approval and adopting the plan into the IRWMP.

The Santa Barbara County Association of Municipal Separate Storm Sewer System Managers, or SBCAM, will take over responsibility for maintaining the plan and updating the project list as new projects are proposed and scored. SBCAM would provide any changes to the Irwin Group for adoption. Project Clean Water participates in SBCAM on behalf of the county. The next round of Proposition 1 funding for implementing stormwater projects is expected in the summer of 2019. Stormwater projects would be applied for and implemented by local agencies.

Finally, staff recommends that your board receive and file the Santa Barbara County-wide Integrated Stormwater Resources Plan, that you authorize Public Works to submit the plan to the State Board, and then determine these actions are not a project pursuant to CEQA. We're happy to answer any questions you may have.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:18:19 · ≈ 1:18 PM

Questions from the board? Supervisor Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.874:18:23 · ≈ 1:18 PM

I was just curious, the criteria for selecting the top projects doesn't really look at groundwater depletion if I'm correct. It more how good is it at capturing and recharging but not necessarily depleted ground water basins. Is that correct?

CommentEd KolaskiProposed · by introduction4:18:47 · ≈ 1:18 PM

Supervisor Hartman through the chair. I believe that's correct, yes. However most of the places where projects are proposed are areas where ground water basins could use some enhancement. There aren't any projects where the water would be wasted so we looked at places where the water would infiltrate past any confining layers or it would be meaningfully used by any nearby water producers.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.874:19:15 · ≈ 1:19 PM

Absolutely. I mean, I think anywhere we can do this it's great and I commend you for this project and how carefully it has been done. I'm just – I know in Vandenberg Village for example that's an area where they have a relative abundance of water so over time it seems to me I realize we don't have the same groundwater basins in South County maybe that we do in North County, but the depletion of the basin itself would one would think be a factor as we move forward.

CommentEd KolaskiProposed · by introduction4:19:51 · ≈ 1:19 PM

Supervisor Hartman through the chair. That's a very good point and that's something that we can look at. I would also point out that these are all multi-benefit projects so a certain project might be proposed to reduce a water quality impairment primarily rather than specifically looking to recharge your basin.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:20:10 · ≈ 1:20 PM

Just I guess a big picture question from your perspective. These processes used to be criticized not here locally but just everywhere as jurisdictions having to do a lot of paperwork. For not a huge amount of change in how the system is. How would you fast forward 20 years later, 10 years later from a lot of that? What are we doing differently and what's your big picture assessment of how this process is working?

CommentEd KolaskiProposed · by introduction4:20:50 · ≈ 1:20 PM

Mr. Chair, I might ask Mr. Fairam to weigh in since he was here 20 years ago. But I'll just point out that this process- Come on man! You're showing a little gray like

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed4:21:02 · ≈ 1:21 PM

me.

CommentEd KolaskiProposed · by introduction4:21:04 · ≈ 1:21 PM

But i will point out that this process was funded by a grant from the state A matching grant that was matched by past expenditures from all the cooperating entities. So the state did put forward a lot of the funding that made this possible and these projects, once they're on the list, they will be eligible for significant matching funding from the state going forward. So I think there is potential for significant bang for the buck from being on this list and going through this process. And I'll pass it to Mr. Farron.

CommentChair EverettProposed · by introduction4:21:37 · ≈ 1:21 PM

Mr. Chair, members of the board so I think the other aspect of this is that it will want to get grant funding we have to have this plan in place and the plan the list of projects that are on there are not the only thing we can get funded we can add new projects so it opens the door for just about anything Looking back, there have been many examples of stormwater capture and in particular for groundwater recharge.

One of the first large ones in the county was in the Orchid area out by the end of Battles where we have our Getty and Kovar basins which are groundwater recharge basins that were done in the 80s. We look to expand on that and then also look to work with a partner then that can actually implement the project and maintain it onwards. A good example would be the concrete line channels in Carpinteria. We're looking to partner with the Carpinteria Valley Water District for them to again have a double purpose project that would impact water quality, and then also groundwater recharge. So it just opens it up, I think facilitates it. Not that it wasn't being done in the past but I think there's also a renewed focus on not only for groundwater basins that could be stressed but also in the long term if there's enough of these around it does reduce the over flood water impact by defraying that water from simply washing out to the ocean and then having to have capacity in our channels to do that.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.864:22:59 · ≈ 1:22 PM

Supervisor Lavanino. Thank you, Mr. Chair. So I noticed our two largest cities aren't part of the collaborative agreement. I'm assuming we reached out to them

CommentEd KolaskiProposed · by introduction4:23:10 · ≈ 1:23 PM

what was the feedback? Supervisor Lavanino through the chair so two of the entities that we reached out to are were already had either already completed an equivalent stormwater plan or were in the process of doing so so the city of Santa Maria has already completed their own Independent plan that's been approved by the State Board. Goleta Water District has also submitted an approved plan to the board, or a plan to the board for approval. The city of Santa Barbara and the city of Lompoc both declined to participate and they can choose to proceed at their discretion going forward.

Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.874:23:49 · ≈ 1:23 PM

Two questions is flood control one of the benefits

CommentEd KolaskiProposed · by introduction4:23:54 · ≈ 1:23 PM

Supervisor Hartman through the chair, yes it is.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.874:23:57 · ≈ 1:23 PM

And once we have a plan, we can add different things to it going forward. I was remembering back to I think Sun Valley in Los Angeles County where they systematically went after parks and school areas because they did have a lot of flooding problems and they really wanted to recharge, get multi-use projects. We do have one park but otherwise What's the next step, not just in terms of project implementation but what would we do next to see as we get more finely grained here.

What are the next targets for recharge?

CommentEd KolaskiProposed · by introduction4:24:42 · ≈ 1:24 PM

Supervisor Hartman through the chair, so that's an excellent point. Parks and schools are really high value targets for stormwater recharge because one they're publicly owned and that was something that was screened for in our exercise. In addition it's my understanding that schools will soon be regulated for water quality discharges. And so they might have strong incentive to do things like detention basins to treat their on-site runoff before it leaves the site.

So I think a number of parcels that are parks that may not have made that list of 18 are still identified and captured in the much larger screened project lists. The entire list of parcels is actually on our website for the public to view, and make comments on, and maybe propose projects on. So all of those parks that may not have been chosen by one of the cooperating entities in this round, Grab that list, look at those parcels for options and for opportunities. And move forward in those areas going forward.

Any requests to speak?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:26:02 · ≈ 1:26 PM

Chair Williams, members of the board, we do not have any requests to speak on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:26:07 · ≈ 1:26 PM

Then can I get a motion from the board?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.874:26:14 · ≈ 1:26 PM

I move staff's recommendation.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:26:16 · ≈ 1:26 PM

Second. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? It's unanimous. Thank you so much. We'll take coastal resiliency to... I'm sure you have something to read on that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:26:37 · ≈ 1:26 PM

Chair Williams, members of the board. Departmental item number seven is from planning and development. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a resolution amending the coastal land use plan case number 17GPA4. And an ordinance amending article two of chapter 35 zoning of the county code case number 170RD15 of the local coastal program to prepare for mitigate and respond to threats resulting from current and reasonable foreseeable future sea level rise and coastal hazards.

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated4:27:14 · ≈ 1:27 PM

Okay, good afternoon Chair Williams and Supervisors. My name is Selena Evelsizer. I'm a senior planner in long range planning and my supervising planner Alan Bell is here with me also. We're here to present the local coastal program amendment for the Coastal Resiliency Project to you today. The purpose of the Coastal Resiliency Project is to prepare for, mitigate and respond to hazards from sea level rise.

Amendments are proposed to both the coastal land use plan and the Article 2 Coastal Zoning Ordinance. The amendments are intended to provide clear consistent guidance in standards for all new development within the coastal zone that may be potentially subject to hazards from sea level rise. In this presentation I'll briefly discuss the LCP amendment and the current status. I'll also present the sea level rise information that we used in this proposed LCP amendment, and then I'll discuss key policy issues for your board to consider.

The project involved these four phases. The first was modeling and mapping of sea level rise and related coastal hazards all along the entire county coastline. Then, the second phase was preparation of a Sea Level Rise and Coastal Hazards Vulnerability Assessment. which was released about a year and a half ago. The third phase was the preparation of draft policies and development standards, and then the final phase that was part of the grant funded project was a significant public outreach phase.

County staff briefed the board on the draft LCP amendment this past February, and we made the board's recommended revisions at that time. Staff then presented the proposed LCP amendment to both the Montecito and county planning commissions this past summer. The County Planning Commission recommended approval to the board at their August 29th hearing. Since then, we have received draft revisions from coastal commission staff as I will explain later in this presentation.

Sea level rise through the end of this century was projected using the National Research Council's publication titled, Sea Level Rise for the Coasts of California, Oregon and Washington. Our consulting team modeled the projections for our local coastline and provided these low, medium and high sea level rise scenarios for three different time horizons. The medium scenario projects sea level rise of around 3.5 inches by the year 2030, around 12 inches by the year 2060 and then around 30 inches or 2.5 feet by the year 2100 Since then, the State of California has updated their projections.

The state's updated projections confirm the projections that we've used in this coastal resiliency project and the state also assigned probabilities to different scenarios. The report's authors give what they call a likely range of sea level rise, which is this 2 and 3 or 67% chance of sea level rise falling within that range for each time period. The likely range encompasses the medium scenario projected under our coastal resiliency project.

I pasted the medium scenario down there on the bottom. For this reason, the County Planning Commission and staff proposes using the medium scenario for policy and development review purposes. This is a new slide from what we had in our original packet. Correct, Supervisor Wolf through the chair after our discussions last week we made some revisions Some of which were recommended and others we thought would help to inform the discussion. So this is a new slide So we're still using

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:31:58 · ≈ 1:31 PM

the word medium not likely range It's interesting because in the one-in-twenty chance if you look at the 20 year 2100 it's fifty five point two inches or greater and in the original one that we got before by 2100 it was 60 inches so in some ways this scenario shows at least in that particular box a lower sea level rise than what you originally presented.

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PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated4:32:39 · ≈ 1:32 PM

Supervisor Wolfe through the chair, so this top table is the state's updated projections. And all of their projections are in the LCP amendment and the Coastal Land Use Plan Amendment Attachment 3. So going back to the scenarios that were modeled as part of the coastal resiliency project. The modeling resulted in these low, medium and high scenarios. And the high scenario there closely related to the one and 200, it was kind of in between but it closely related to the one and 200 chance that the state's updated guidance. You mean the 1 in 20 chance?

So if you look at attachment three page six, it shows the entire table. So table one is these projections that I'm showing here that we used in the coastal resiliency project and table two on attachment three page six shows the state's updated projections from last year. And so it shows the 1-20 and the 1 200 chance. And so they have two scenarios for the year 2100. The state does, they have a low emission scenario and a high emission scenario. So our high sea level rise scenario that was modeled as part of the coastal resiliency project kind of fell within those two, the state's two scenarios for the year 2100.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:34:18 · ≈ 1:34 PM

Okay I understand now thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:34:29 · ≈ 1:34 PM

I'm not sure what happened in my map slides.

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated4:34:36 · ≈ 1:34 PM

Well, so we took the modeling information and created coastal hazard screening areas maps which are shown on the handout for some reason they're not on here but the, excuse me sorry. The Coastal Hazards Screening Area Maps show areas of the coastline that are potentially vulnerable to flooding, erosion and high tide hazards from sea level rise at those same three different time horizons that we modeled so 2030, 2060 and 2100.

We have two different versions of the maps. We have one map, which is Appendix J to the Coastal Land Use Plan Amendment and it shows a medium sea level rise scenario and potential hazards resulting from sea level rise plus 100 year storm event. And then we also have a proposed attachment K which is coastal hazard screening areas maps using the high sea level rise scenario which are proposed to be used when analyzing subdivisions and lot line adjustments.

So the LCP amendment proposes a development review process for properties that fall within those coastal hazard screening areas. First, the permit applicant and county staff would check the sea level rise and coastal hazard screening area's map. So if a proposed project falls within those hazard screening areas, the applicant would use the new technical guidelines that are part of this LCP amendment to prepare a site-specific hazard report. For new development, the medium sea level rise scenario and appropriate anticipated life of the structure would be used for example 75 years for residential or commercial development.

Less for temporary structures and a greater time length for critical infrastructure such as bridges or wastewater treatment facilities. That site-specific hazard analysis may result in increased setbacks from the bluff edge, beach front, dune or other coastal features that are subject to flooding or erosion hazards. If the proposed development cannot be located out of the coastal hazard areas, this proposed LCP amendment allows the applicant to design for flood proofing and also allows for an economically viable use of the property.

Potential policy 3-13 would require a recordation of a notice of property owner of the potential hazards. For land divisions, the LCP amendment proposes using the high sea level rise scenario and 100 year time frame to ensure safe buildable areas in new proposed lots. Future new development proposed on the new lot would be subject to the same standards as proposed development on existing lots.

Another key issue is that existing development may become non-conforming with respect to coastal hazards. Currently, the Coastal Land Use Plan allows for property owners to repair and maintain existing non-conforming structures but not alter or expand the structure. The LCP amendment proposes a new threshold titled redevelopment Where up to 50% of a non-conforming structure can be structurally altered, but if cumulative structural alterations exceed 50%, then that structure is treated the same as new development and then it's subject to all existing LCP policies and standards.

The baseline year to begin that cumulative alteration calculation is proposed to be the date of LCP certification of this amendment. One final major policy issue that's proposed in this amendment is regarding shoreline protective devices. Coastal Act Section 30235 and current county policy permits shoreline protective devices to protect existing principal structures, coastal dependent uses and public beaches.

However new development must be cited and designed to not need shoreline protection or bluff stabilization devices. Proposed policy 3-4 and proposed section 35-172 in the Coastal Zoning Ordinance Amendment continue to allow for shoreline protective devices for existing development. However, stricter standards are proposed which prioritize natural methods over hard engineered structures.

Also, seawalls and other shoreline protective devices would be conditioned to require mitigation of adverse impacts. Also they would be conditioned to require removal if protection is no longer needed for an existing structure. And to require removal if the public trust boundary moves inland due to sea level rise and the protective device is located on the public beach instead of private land.

As I mentioned previously, local coastal commission staff has reviewed the draft LCP three separate times over the past two years. And most recently they submitted draft revisions to us in September and October. This was after the County Planning Commission made their recommendation. The intent of the Coastal Commission's early review is to streamline the certification process, should your board adopt this LCP amendment.

The County Planning Commission did not review the Coastal Commission's latest round of draft revisions. County staff did incorporate some of the Coastal Commission's most recent draft revisions. Most of the incorporated revisions were minor text edits and were consistent with a text in their current policy proposed amendment, but the most significant one was proposing to use the high sea level rise scenario and 100 year time frame for permitting subdivisions and certain lot line adjustments.

Other revisions that were incorporated related to allowing minor or ancillary development, such as patios and walkways in coastal hazard setback areas. Also another revision that was incorporated would require adaptive management permit conditions for new public access and recreation facilities. And also, another amendment is to notify property owners that public trust lands like beaches could migrate inland due to sea level rise so that private structures could end up being located on public lands.

County staff did not incorporate Coastal Commission's draft revisions that were duplicative of other policies or that raised significant policy concerns. There were five significant policy issues the county staff did not incorporate, and I will discuss on the next five slides. These significant policy issues are likely to be Coastal Commission staff's proposed modifications during the certification process.

So long range planning staff is requesting direction from your board on these issues. We will share the board's direction with the coastal commission when we submit for certification. The first issue is regarding existing development and to clarify the date as of when existing development is considered to be existing. Structures or development built after that date would be considered new development.

The County Planning Commission and staff have proposed using the date of certification of this LCP amendment as that defining date. However, Coastal Commission staff proposes defining existing development as of January 1st 1977 when the Coastal Act was implemented. Setting the baseline year for existing development affects the redevelopment threshold. Using the date of 1977 means that the baseline year for cumulative structural alterations to existing development would be 1977, and therefore many existing structures would already exceed that redevelopment threshold.

Additionally, defining existing development as of 1977 means that many existing structures cannot obtain permits for shoreline protection even though they currently can under the Coastal Act. The second issue is regarding removal of existing development. Proposed policy 3-12 in the amendment would require removal of development in coastal hazard areas if the structures become damaged and unsafe to enter, or if essential services to the site can no longer be feasibly maintained.

However, Coastal Commission staff also proposes removal if existing development encroaches on public trust land because the public trust boundary has migrated inland due to sea level rise. Additionally, coastal commission staff would require removal of existing development if it becomes threatened and requires a shoreline protection device. The third issue is regarding future shoreline protection.

The public resources code section 30235 allows shoreline protection for existing structures and proposed policy 3-13 in this LCP amendment continues to allow protective devices. However, Coastal Commission staff is recommending that property owners record a waiver of future shoreline protection upon receipt of a coastal development permit. The waiver would apply to both new and existing development and would prohibit current and future property owners from obtaining new or expanded shoreline protection devices.

County staff disagrees with Coastal Commission staff's recommendation because it would foreclose potential shoreline protection options for property owners when the Coastal Act allows these options under certain circumstances. Issue four is still regarding shoreline protective devices. Coastal Commission staff is recommending first, limiting permits for new shoreline protection devices to 20 year increments and then secondly requiring property owners to prepare periodic monitoring plans to identify the impacts of shoreline armoring on the existing area and determine when that protective device is no longer needed for protection And thus, that device must be removed.

The final issue is regarding elevating non-conforming structures for flood proofing. The proposed LCP amendment before you would allow structural alteration to elevate existing structures for flood proofing without triggering that 50% redevelopment threshold. This exemption would allow property owners to continue living in existing structures and may avoid the need for seawalls and other shoreline protection devices.

Coastal Commission staff commented that structural changes for flood proofing should not be exempt from the redevelopment threshold, and county staff is concerned that the coastal commission's recommendation would limit or prevent property owners from flood proofing in some cases. The proposed LCP amendment is exempt from environmental review per CEQA guideline section 15265, which exempts local government activities and approvals involving the preparation and adoption of local coastal program amendments. The burden of CEQAs compliance shifts from the local agency to the California Coastal Commission.

This slide summarizes the recommended actions of your board. Please see pages 1 and 2 of the board letter for the recommended actions to be included within your motion, if so chosen. And this concludes my presentation I'm happy to answer any questions about this LCP amendment thank you.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:47:09 · ≈ 1:47 PM

Questions from the Board?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:47:14 · ≈ 1:47 PM

Supervisor Adam. I don't expect this to get any traction, but you know as you know I'm a climate change denier and this stuff is just the most speculative Stuff to me so you know that I wish And I know I'm not gonna get it, but I wish that there would be a sunset in this thing at some point to say look if your predictions are wrong. Because what year are we going to know your predictions are wrong and it's statistically insignificant? For instance this 2060 prediction of the low prediction 2.8 well if it's 2. 8 or less than 2.8 inches by 2060.

That's statistically insignificant, you're never going to be able to tell And I asked you guys one time what the, how many... There was a 70 year study period, I think. Which put us out at that time at something like 2070 or something. I don't know why it was such a weird study period length. But I said how many foundations will be lost? And the answer was zero.

At the end of the study period. Which, you know, I mean we go through this stuff all the time and there's no way to do anything now. But you know, I wish somebody would put in a sunset provision so that in 2060 if none of this stuff comes to pass, if it's not more than the low sea level rise prediction, it just sunsets because There's so much stuff in here, you're making everybody go through this massive bunch of stuff just to maintain their houses and stuff that they actually have. And if it's not what we think it's going to be at what point does that stop? That's the question.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:49:34 · ≈ 1:49 PM

Well, I believe there is a mechanism for that because of the further review periods for the project. Meaning we're not gonna just do this once and say okay, that's the model we're gonna use forever but they will be reviewing the models projections for sea level rise. Could you explain that a little bit?

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated4:50:04 · ≈ 1:50 PM

Yes, Chair Williams and Supervisors yes. Proposed policy 3-7 which is on attachment three page ten it would require that the county will monitor sea level rise using the best available science and then compare the modeled projections against measurable changes in sea level rise using tidal gauge information or satellite information, and then it would require that we report the results to the Board of Supervisors every 10 years or sooner if necessary. And then the board could direct staff to update the maps and scenarios at that time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:50:42 · ≈ 1:50 PM

Let's see my problem is if they keep moving the goalposts You know if we're always 40 years ahead in the predictions but we don't, you know I remember back in the 80s you were probably not paying attention. I was a

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:51:00 · ≈ 1:51 PM

weird kid I was

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:51:01 · ≈ 1:51 PM

paying attention. Okay well then you remember too that Ted Danson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. But we're going to do all this stuff telling people they can and can't maintain their homes and businesses in the meantime. By 2060, if we're still predicting the sea level rise in 2100 but none of it's actually occurred yet, hopefully somebody smart will be there at that point.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:52:01 · ≈ 1:52 PM

Thank you Mr. Chair. During our conversation we had pointed out to you about the eastern glade Valley community plan was specific in its 100 years for residential or commercial properties and I think that's the same I know you've provided, or you'll show it on the board, a way for us to deal with that inconsistency in that the 100 years. You're going to show us now?

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PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated4:52:47 · ≈ 1:52 PM

Supervisor Wolf, through the chair. We did after that discussion we drafted some additional language to propose policy 3-10 which is the policy that sets out different anticipated life standards for different types of development and so we did add the language there at the bottom which is hard to read because there's so much text on here so I'll read it. Says notwithstanding policy 1-3, where there are conflicts between this policy and coastal hazard setback policies or other provisions set forth in any community plan and or existing ordinance. The most restrictive standard using the longest anticipated life of development or hazard analysis time frame shall take precedence.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:53:32 · ≈ 1:53 PM

Okay, and I appreciate that. I think that goes to the question that I had when we met but it does lead me to ask this question which is in Section D, Policy 3-10 Section D why we don't just change that from 75 years to 100 given that's what the Coastal Commission is requesting or has requested in these community plans. Why wouldn't we just do that?

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated4:54:11 · ≈ 1:54 PM

Supervisor, well through the chair that is an option thus far when we've been working on the draft policies we started out with basing this on current coastal land use plan policy which does establish that 75 year requirement for all different types of development And then we have been using the Coastal Commission's sea level rise guidance documents where they recommend a range 75 to 100 years. So that's why we felt comfortable recommending a 75 year time frame.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:54:47 · ≈ 1:54 PM

Okay, I appreciate that but because you have critical infrastructure is 100 years which is what I consider as residential properties as well. But anyway notwithstanding that I'm fine with the language that you've presented if other board members want to talk about that further I'm opening to change section D to 100 years. I do have another comment but I'll wait thank you

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:55:20 · ≈ 1:55 PM

Go to public comment and one more question, comment.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.874:55:24 · ≈ 1:55 PM

I guess, thank you. This goes to Supervisor Adams' point and I know we have the 10 year and more often if necessary but I would be very interested in a five-year period and would be eager to have public comment on that time frame. I'm also would like... You discussed Public trust and that as the sea encroaches and we have greater tidelands, people would have warning that if you have a property in the public trust what you have to remove it.

Is that what you're saying?

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated4:56:10 · ≈ 1:56 PM

Supervisor Hartman, through the chair. At that point if the property is located outside of county lands then a property owner might need to get a permit from state lands or Coastal Commission. Okay

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.874:56:25 · ≈ 1:56 PM

and could you elaborate a little more on parks? I notice on the maps the Guadalupe Dunes and Point Sal and Halama are all greatly affected by the projected sea level rise. I'd like you to talk a little bit more about what we can do to protect access and protect the parks themselves.

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated4:56:57 · ≈ 1:56 PM

Supervisor Hartman, through the chair. So in this LCP amendment we've modified one existing policy and we've added three new proposed policies 7-8, 7-9 and 7-10 The amendment to policy 7-1 would require the county to work with landowners to pursue new public access ways if existing easements or corridors are lost, or inaccessible as sea level rise occurs. And then proposed policy 7-8 would require Either mitigation of adverse impacts through the addition of new public access, recreation opportunities or payment of fees. In those cases where unavoidable adverse impacts to public access or recreation from new shoreline protection devices or new development occur.

And then another one that relates to this discussion is policy 7-9, is that new public access and public recreation uses and facilities can be allowed in these coastal hazard areas. Provided that they are consistent with the proposed policies and standards in here including They include adaptive management measures. So when these new facilities are planned and implemented, if possible in that design process they can be designed to either relocate back or be removed or somehow relocated as conditions change over time so that there's still public access and amenities available along the coast. And we're thinking ahead on how to provide those.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:58:56 · ≈ 1:58 PM

Supervisor Wolf.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:58:58 · ≈ 1:58 PM

Thank you Mr. Chair policy 3-20 coastal hazards adversely impacting transportation resources there is a reference in that policy to highway 101 and I'm wondering why highway 217 wasn't included

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated4:59:27 · ≈ 1:59 PM

Supervisor Wolf, through the chair. As part of the vulnerability assessment that was prepared as part of this project we did specifically look at impacts to Highway 1 because it's such an essential regional local corridor. So that's why Highway 1 was called out here but there was no, we didn't purposely exclude Highway 217. We could definitely amend this to add it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:59:56 · ≈ 1:59 PM

And then on policy 3-22 about Union Pacific Railroad, it says that areas will be regularly inundated by the ocean or at risk of periodic inundation from storm surge and sea level rise should be identified. I'm just wondering why it's a should and not a shall? Because everything else in this section is shall. I mean why wouldn't that be required?

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated5:00:35 · ≈ 2:00 PM

Supervisor Wolf, through the chair, I think that could be shall if the board feels like that's something you would like to direct staff to do at some point and we already have a lot of that information as part of this project

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:00:50 · ≈ 2:00 PM

So is that something we could change today, Mr. Gazzone if we were to change that word? Is that a major ordinance change?

CommentBarbara LindemanProposed · by introduction5:01:01 · ≈ 2:01 PM

Chair and Supervisors it would be within the type of material that was considered below by the planning commission and we would just want to hear from planning whether it'd be just a one spot change which is what it sounds like or whether they might need a few minutes just review and ensure that that was the only place that that would show up The short answer is yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:01:21 · ≈ 2:01 PM

Yes, we could do it today. Okay. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:01:31 · ≈ 2:01 PM

Go to public comment.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:01:32 · ≈ 2:01 PM

Chair Williams and members of the board, we have two requests to speak on this item. We're going to begin with Carl Hutterer to be followed by Barbara Lindemann. Is Carl here?

CommentCarl HuttererProposedself-stated5:01:54 · ≈ 2:01 PM

Good afternoon, my name is Carl Hutterer. I'm a director and officer on the board of the Community Environmental Council and I have been following the scientific literature and it's a massive scientific literature on climate change closely over more than 20 years and have made the response to climate change the central issue for the years of the life I have left Following the disastrous Thomas Fire and the tragic Montecito debris flow, I commend the county agencies and the Board of Supervisors for their efforts in care towards amending the Coastal Land Use Plan in the face of what are clearly going to be ever-growing threats to our health, life, and economy.

I want to address myself with just one specific issue in the proposed amendment, the assumptions about future sea level rise that underlie the proposed coastal setbacks. Under ordinary circumstances it would be entirely reasonable to use guidance provided by the Ocean Protective Council as updated in 2018 and to adopt a medium value of the statistical range used in the projection.

However, we are not in ordinary circumstances. Among the many climate change impacts, sea level rise is one of the most difficult things to forecast. However it is not so much this difficulty in forecasting that concerns me than certain assumptions underlying some forecasts namely the expectation that change will progress in a linear manner There have been a spate of recent publications by highly competent scientific bodies and individuals.

They clearly state that climate change is progressing more rapidly than assumed, even fairly recently, that its impacts are coming on more quickly and more severely than previously projected. Among these publications, the voluminous Special Report 15 of the International Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change published October 8th of this year notes that effects of global warming are arriving earlier than expected and measurements of effects are coming in at a high range of forecasts.

A paper published last August in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences Warns of tipping points and the possibility of a runaway hothouse earth. And there's a whole lot more. The implications of these newer studies are that the climate change we are currently experiencing is not a new normal, it is the beginning of a new abnormal. A period of time during which you will see steadily worsening and accelerating conditions of environmental instability.

Under these circumstances, it would be unwise to assume a medium level of future sea-level rise. A study published by NASA last February warned that sea level rise has been accelerating rather than increasing steadily, and it is likely to do so for decades to come until well past the end of this century. This is the scenario we need to adopt for planning even as we hope that tipping points will not be triggered that would set in motion a truly calamitous cascade of events.

Much of this could be avoided, of course, if we were to implement very rapid and truly extraordinary efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. At the same time pursue vigorous efforts to extract greenhouse gases that are already resident in the atmosphere. Unfortunately I do not see evidence of that happening at least not anywhere near the scale or urgency that would be required.

Thank you Mr. Hatter. Pardon me? Absent this, I urge you to adopt the upper end of the range of the forecast for sea level rise as guide for coastal setback requirements. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:06:18 · ≈ 2:06 PM

Our next speaker is Barbara Lindeman and we have an additional speaker to be followed by Mark Shintello.

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CommentDr. Barbara LindemannProposedself-stated5:06:29 · ≈ 2:06 PM

Mr. Chair, members of the board. My time limit is what? Alright that's what I thought. I'm Dr. Barbara Lindemann, I'm a Professor Emerita of History at Santa Barbara City College and I'm here as a member of the Board of the Community Environmental Council. My specialty is history not science. I know a bit about the history of environmental science and environmental policy.

And I commend the board for taking seriously environmental threats identified by the climate scientists as just outlined by Dr. Hutterer. As he mentioned, we're facing a future of rapid climate change and sea level rise. Projections about climate change that were made 40 years ago turned out to be too conservative. Consequences have been even greater than predicted as Dr. Hutterer pointed out.

Officials who were then in a position to address the human causes of climate change didn't take the projection seriously enough and thought they had time. Because government did not take the lead in addressing the human causes of those changes, we face today much greater challenges than might have been the case. Now we are in a position not only of trying to slow the pace of change but also of planning ways to mitigate the projected damage to our coastal communities and I thank the board for taking on that challenge.

I want to address two aspects of the Planning Staff's report before you. The question of should Which level of sea rise, projected sea rise should be used? I argue that we should use the high sea level rise as the projected one. And the other question of the anticipated life of development building life, I think should be 100 years not 75. It's not prudent to operate according to a projected moderate sea level rise.

As a matter of policy, the board should establish the high sea level projection for planning purposes. If the sea level rise turns out in fact to be at the high end, the policy established by this board will have protected many lives and buildings. If in fact the sea level rise turns out to be moderate and the board has planned for the high level, the worst that can happen is that the county has a stock of solid buildings and healthy wetlands and open space. Don't gamble on public safety.

As a practical measure, a policy based on projections of high sea level rise provides the guidance needed by private property owners and public agencies as they do their site planning, cost calculations, construction, public access provisions etc. A very strong point of the proposed plan is the requirement that the Board of Supervisors review the science and projections of sea level rise at least every five years so that adjustments up or down can and should be made.

My second concern is that the county plan for sea level rise assumes a building life of 75 years. I don't know how that number was derived. I thought about it for just a few moments and came up with many buildings in Santa Barbara that are between 75 and 100 years old, and in good shape. The Municipal Bath House, the Biltmore, the Breakwater, some of the buildings at the Breakwater. The administration building at Santa Barbara City College. Farther inland, the Santa Barbara Senior and Junior High Schools, the Libero, the Arlington, the Granada. City Hall, the courthouse and countless small bungalow homes throughout Santa Barbara that date to the 1920s and 1930s. To say nothing of the earlier Victorians and craftsmen houses and mission style houses.

A projected building life of 100 years is much more realistic even in this land of earthquakes, flood and fire.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:10:22 · ≈ 2:10 PM

Thank you,

CommentDr. Barbara LindemannProposedself-stated5:10:22 · ≈ 2:10 PM

Barbara. Again an underestimate here can threaten public safety in the future whereas a more realistic figure of 100 year building life has no downsides so thank you and engaging this critical planning process. And our final

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:10:35 · ≈ 2:10 PM

speaker is

CommentDr. Barbara LindemannProposedself-stated5:10:36 · ≈ 2:10 PM

Mark Chantillo

CommentMark ChitillaProposedself-stated5:10:41 · ≈ 2:10 PM

Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and members of the board. I'm Mark Chitilla. I am here on my own behalf today as somebody who's been involved in a number of environmental issues in our county. And as we face sea level rise and adaptation to climate change this is really a generational issue. In some respects for some communities it's an existential issue. Because we know that disproportionate impacts to low income and communities of color occur from the effects of climate change. So I would encourage you to follow the recommendations of the two doctors in front of me, to adopt more conservative principles to guide the county's policy concerning sea level rise.

Let's talk economics. It's pretty well established in the realm of environmental protection and response that the costs of controlling pollution at the source as opposed to controlling the problem or mediating a problem after it has escaped is typically an order of magnitude higher, ten times higher. And the question that we face now is, do you want to have the current board and the county prepare to spend a certain amount of cost to response to the adaptation from sea level rise? Or shall we impose upon our children a ten times cost.

That's actually exacerbated by the lack of leadership that we have at the federal government, which is exacerbating the sea level rise and climate change problems that we face. So as we look at the costs that are associated with sea level rise and climate change, I think that this is an excellent driver for your board's adoption of more conservative policies that better protect future generations.

The precautionary principle is typically applied when there are questions with respect to the overall science of these kinds of changes, where it is appropriate to take additional actions to ensure the protection of future generations rather than to risk them. And indeed, the assumptions that are inherent within the plan and the policies that you're preparing to adopt really defer those hard questions and those additional costs on future generations.

So I would encourage the board to consider making several key adjustments to the policies in the plan that's before you. First, adopt the latest sea level rise projections. Relying on 2012 data, which is demonstrably out of date. Only improperly deters actions that need to be taken and adopt the more aggressive high range of impacts rather than the moderate range.

And finally, adopt a 100 year structural life for purposes or land use planning processes. I endorse the recommendations, all of the recommendations of the Coastal Commission and think that they should be taken seriously by your board. And lastly that the board does as it's moving ahead with these types of processes direct staff to engage in a more robust public participation process. There has not been substantial public participation since these are community wide societal issues there really needs to be that higher level of engagement. So Mr. Chair, thank you for hearing my concerns about this and we look forward to seeing the board take the actions that are necessary to address the needs of future generations. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:14:20 · ≈ 2:14 PM

Supervisor Adam.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:14:22 · ≈ 2:14 PM

Thank you. All I want to say is I just wish we were more concerned about the absolute certain bills that our kids are going to inherit such as all the deferred maintenance that's gonna end up being dealt with at some point down the road when this other stuff may just be imaginary. It's certainly speculative.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.865:14:54 · ≈ 2:14 PM

Supervisor Lavender. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I've got some questions first. So how do we locally measure sea level rise?

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated5:15:07 · ≈ 2:15 PM

Supervisor Levin, you know through the chair there is a title gauge in the Santa Barbara Harbor and that's the closest one. And that is the one that is in the state's updated projections and guidance that they recommend we base future measurements off of.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.865:15:23 · ≈ 2:15 PM

And how long has that been there?

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated5:15:25 · ≈ 2:15 PM

It's been in existence since 1974. The problem is the record is a little spotty because during large El Nino storms it stops working for a little bit, but we have a consistent record over time.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.865:15:45 · ≈ 2:15 PM

I would have assumed that the Coastal Commission would, so is this a requirement for us to study sea level rise and react to it based off the Coastal Commission? Or what is their role outside of approving our plan?

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated5:16:00 · ≈ 2:16 PM

Supervisor Lavagnini, through the chair. The Coastal Commission is applying standards in the Coastal Act that require development to be safe from hazards and so they are considering sea level rise and associated hazards within that realm of potential hazards.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.865:16:16 · ≈ 2:16 PM

Okay I don't know if we're going into deliberation or whatever okay well I'll do mine now So first off, it's the first time I think I've seen Mr. Sciatello push for the conservative method. It was a little off-putting. I had to get out of my bizarro world there for a second but we're good. You know, I think it's good public policy to plan. And it's wise to try to figure out exactly what's happening. And I think unless you're a climate Scientologist, which I'm not sure.

How many of those...

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ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.655:17:01 · ≈ 2:17 PM

A climate Scientologist? Is that a new word? Climate scientist. You know, a climate Scientologist is

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.865:17:07 · ≈ 2:17 PM

what we do need probably. They are! Yeah right there. Climate Scientologist. That's a great new word I'm going to use that. Unless you're a climate scientist, a lot of this might be a little bit more difficult to understand but I mean like I seriously tried to study on this and went in and found like 10 different And then for the high level You know, that's 5%. So I'm not sure it is really good public policy to plan for something that's a 5% chance. And one of the things I think that Supervisor Adam was talking about is you know there's probably better than a 5 percent chance that the pension fund doesn't We don't go and take extra money at this point and put it into an account for that day to happen.

We have to think about what the possibilities of that would be but we try to look at what scenarios are response. And that's one of the things I struggle the most with in climate change is that I'm not a climate change denier, obviously I look around and see things happening but what I would, maybe this is free advice for some of those who are trying to convert me or move that way It just seems like maybe this comes from my religious background of not getting too far deep into apocalyptic scenarios because I find most of them never happen is even if we are planning for sea level rise and we decide we're going to take the middle path, everybody shows up and wants to go to the high path.

In your world more is always better and for policy wise it would be great to be able to say okay you plan for the worst and if the worst doesn't happen, you're much better off. The problem is you're taking away people's rights and ownership along the way In some of the scenarios that the Coastal Commission was trying to get us to move in that direction. So like I said, I think it's smart to plan for this if it doesn't happen you're okay. My mom always told me that about going to church she said hey, if you die and we're wrong What's going to be a problem?

You could be wrong. So I

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ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.655:20:09 · ≈ 2:20 PM

think that's what long-range planning is all about. That's an extreme example of the precautionary principle, but maybe apt for this discussion. Better to be safe than sorry.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.865:20:21 · ≈ 2:20 PM

But I just caution people to try to find some middle ground and not... It would be helpful if people came and supported our planning position Because I think it's a well thought out and reasoned place to be. Now, I'm going to vote for this today but if it goes to the Coastal Commission and comes back with them not accepting our, I think very reasonable requests, I am not going to be able to support their positions. They seem to be too far out of the realm for me so I think that covered my entire thing.

Supervisor Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.875:21:03 · ≈ 2:21 PM

Thank you. I think procedurally we have a couple of different things to decide, the sea level rise scenario that we want to adopt, the lifespan of the buildings, the period of time at which we would like review 10 or 5 years or something else and then I think you're asking us to give you some feedback on what the Coastal Commission suggestions are and you had a list of those.

Ms. Black

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:21:34 · ≈ 2:21 PM

Mr. Chair and Supervisor Hartman, yeah if the board thinks we should be doing something other than what we're doing on those five issues we would ask for your feedback if you want us to hold firm on those and continue to negotiate with staff that's really all we need to hear

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.875:21:48 · ≈ 2:21 PM

okay so I guess I'll address my first comment to the sea level rise scenario and I have a question what is the City of Santa Barbara and Caltrans and others doing

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated5:22:02 · ≈ 2:22 PM

Supervisor Hartman through the chair. So the City of Santa Barbara, or the city council adopted their coastal land use plan update and at this point they've updated their coastal land use plan and they are using 150 centimeters which is roughly around our high sea level rise scenario. They're using a different model but it's a USGS model. But they are now working on an adaptation plan. So the policies in their coastal news planner, they're calling them interim policies until they finish their adaptation plan and they hope to have specific policy and development standards recommendations that come out of that adaptation plan And Caltrans in documents like environmental impact reviews, they are using a high or more worst case scenario in EIR review.

But I don't know if they have a specific policy requiring them to use a specific scenario for designing. Okay

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.875:23:15 · ≈ 2:23 PM

well I guess I'll make my statement regarding sea level rise scenario. I think it is important to be as cautious as we can and I think it's important that we give landowners notice, prospective landowners as well as current landowners In my reading about projections on sea level rise, what we have are models and we have data for the last 20 years. And the models match pretty well with the actual data. The new understanding is that with the heating of the oceans as well as the melting of the glaciers in Antarctica and Greenland that the rate is indeed accelerating And that we're creating positive feedback loops with darker land mass that's melting even faster than projected. So I think if that is one's understanding, and that is my understanding, The IPPC said and the science today, we are relying on old science.

And I guess we have the same analysts that the City of Santa Barbara used however we have rather different Decisions about which scenario to use, but I think the data suggests that sea level rise is in fact occurring at an accelerating rate and probably faster. And so at least on that first issue, I think the high sea level rise scenario is certainly in order.

As far as the lifespan of buildings, I could go either way. That is with your new language for saying whichever stricter applies and I would very much like a five-year review because if we're wrong we can correct this more quickly if there is compelling data up or down.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:25:28 · ≈ 2:25 PM

Well, I'll chime in here. I think one of the places where a lot of this was discussed in this higher scenario is Montecito Planning Commission and I'm very proud of my Montecito planning commissioners for really using the precautionary principle and advocating the higher projection, the 5% probability scenario that building life Thank you Mr. Chair and members of the board. I want to thank you for your work over the last 100 years and something we haven't talked about but I would like to have in there just reiterating that any expansion on the one zoned property that' s appropriate I guess there's a couple things. I think it is, even though the projections are a little bit different, there is some consistency to them.

The difference between the Caltrans, the city of Santa Barbara, the Army Corps of Engineers and the California Natural Resources Agency OPC projections, they're pretty much in the same range. There's some variation but they're pretty much in the same range. And I think in particular, using a higher threshold The years that are closest to us is appropriate, and this is just from what I know of a modeling. Modeling has especially models that are truth tested for 20 years meaning they're truth tested for the last 20 years. They're more accurate for the next 20 years than they are for And so to me, I'm much more comfortable using the higher range for the shorter time horizons.

I am less comfortable doing it on the 2100 projection and there's two reasons for that. One is models are less accurate the farther you go out. And the second reason is because the model in this case pushes north of the freeway and the model doesn't seem to be equipped for dealing with the freeway as a barrier. So, the freeway will be a barrier. And if that's not factored into the calculation, I think it might be irresponsible for us to treat properties on the north side of the freeway as if the freeway does not exist.

If there is will on this board to move to a high scenario, to me you either need to continue to use the medium scenario for the 2100 projection or The freeway as a barrier and not shade anything that's on the other side of the barrier. That's not to say that it's not possible for there to be damage in the long run on the other side of the 101, but just a structure the size of the 101 would dampen wave action considerably.

And you've got to factor that into what our projections. To me, I do think we have to get this right. If we don't do a conservative enough projection people could get hurt and that's really bad. And if we do too ambitious of a projection We'll have a harder time rebuilding in a possibly premature timeframe. And so, I do want us to try to get this right. I am open to this precautionary principle ideas that have been brought up by the speakers from that meeting.

Thank you Mr. Chair and members of the board. I'm from the environmentalist hotbed of mission canyon and from the Montecito planning commission but I do think if we go that route I would hope that we would either exclude anything north of the freeway which would be one way to Essentially, continue to use the medium for the yellow in the map. So that's my two ideas.

Supervisor Wolf?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:30:36 · ≈ 2:30 PM

I just wanted to clarify one thing that you said, Supervisor Williams. You mentioned the code section 30260. Did you mean for including that into policy 3-18 about the development? Where

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:30:58 · ≈ 2:30 PM

is

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:30:58 · ≈ 2:30 PM

it here?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:31:00 · ≈ 2:31 PM

Yes the coastal dependent development is essentially I guess the easiest way to say it is to return to the MPC recommendation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:31:09 · ≈ 2:31 PM

Yes, I would agree with that and staff we had talked about that just restating that in that section It was in the Coastal Zoning Ordinance. And there's a request to now include it into this, the coastal land use plan. That

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated5:31:38 · ≈ 2:31 PM

language. Chair Williams and Supervisor Wolf, I anticipated this and made a slide for it so up here on the screen is the recommendation that

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:31:52 · ≈ 2:31 PM

Man, do they train you how to read minds down there in KD?

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated5:31:55 · ≈ 2:31 PM

Recommended I did it so I did

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:31:56 · ≈ 2:31 PM

it.

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated5:31:58 · ≈ 2:31 PM

This is a change that the Montecito Planning Commission recommended so staff had made the recommendation or made the change regarding that. So it would modify the coastal zoning ordinance section 35-154 to require that permits For these coastal dependent industries would also need to show that they can make the specific findings required by public resources code section 30260.

Okay, thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:32:29 · ≈ 2:32 PM

for that and The other thing I wanted to ask you Mr. Williams so I'm not quite clear about, I am more aligned with what Supervisor Hartman had suggested and along with the 100 year. If that's not something that we can agree on then I hope you will, I mean that one policy that was up on the board before about the Eastern Gleada Valley Community Plan supersedes the policy. So because when we developed a plan the hundred years was part of the plan so that absolutely has to be in regardless of what we do here as a board.

So again I would prefer We move forward with Supervisor Hartman's suggestion, but if not and we go with the median this will stay in there.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:33:39 · ≈ 2:33 PM

And just to clarify my suggestion is to go along with the MPC slash Joan Hartman suggestion for 2030, for 2060 but just not for 2100. And that's because of the additional uncertainty that projecting out the model for a longer period of time creates. I' m not saying that we should be using the freeway as a barrier or using the freeway using the projection for all three dates but

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.875:34:26 · ≈ 2:34 PM

If I might ask for clarification, could you put slide 7 on? And I would just like to ask staff. So I guess if I understand Supervisor Williams he's saying that 27.2 ought to replace the 60.2 by 2100 is that what you're saying? No

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:34:53 · ≈ 2:34 PM

I'm saying 31 and I mean I could even go for something a little higher but 60 I think is That's a big jump. And obviously I see a scenario under which that happens, but the models numbers for 2030 and for 2060 just simply will be more accurate statistically than... So

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.875:35:19 · ≈ 2:35 PM

I'd like to have staff respond because I'm trying to get the full implications of what you're suggesting.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:35:28 · ≈ 2:35 PM

So Mr. Chair and Supervisor Hartman, I'm going to ask my staff to try and envision what a map would look like that reflects what Supervisor Williams is suggesting. I know what the table would look like. That's pretty easy. I'm not quite sure what the map would look like. But I don't think that we will be able to convince the Coastal Commission not to apply standards north of 101. We may be able to convince them to loosen them a little bit with regard to the studies required, but I don't think we'll be able to convince them not to do anything at all if we indeed adopt the high.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:36:10 · ≈ 2:36 PM

So I guess that leaves me with high, high medium as really kind of the only course of action or something similar to medium for the 2100 scenario.

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PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated5:36:29 · ≈ 2:36 PM

Chair Williams and Supervisors, one thing to consider is that for development where the anticipated life is longer, 75 or 100 years or longer. You are already past the year 2060 when you're used, so It's the sea level rise scenario plus the anticipated lifetime. So if you're already using a 75 year time frame and projecting out 75 years, you're beyond your 2060 already.

So using two different scenarios for the three different time periods would be tricky.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:37:11 · ≈ 2:37 PM

That's when you're talking subdivisions, right? But when you're talking about existing development which is going to be the biggest issue is what's considered non-conforming.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:37:21 · ≈ 2:37 PM

Right? So Mr. Chair, right now what we've presented to you is using 75 years for structures, for typical residential and commercial structures. 100 years for subdivisions. And then when a subdivision is developed, you go back to the 75 year. But you've been talking about potentially changing that to 100. So there's kind of two variables going on.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:37:45 · ≈ 2:37 PM

And my concern is what's considered non-conforming? I mean, at least for me right now, I look at that 100 year scenario and There's stuff at the top of Summerlin Hill that we would be treating as non-conforming. And while I'm not a soils expert, so I can conceive that it may be the soils and it may be erosion that takes place over the next 80 years that puts that in danger.

Us creating that regulatory authority while the model does not take into account A freeway in the way, that's a problem for me. To create that large of a swath without taking that freeway into account and so I mean that is why I'm suggesting going with something lower than 60 inches by 2100. Simply to compensate for the fact that the flaw is not fully understanding the ramifications of a freeway.

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated5:39:15 · ≈ 2:39 PM

Chair Williams and Supervisors, so there's one other thing I wanted to mention too is that in the technical guidelines that we've prepared as an appendix to the Coastal Zoning Ordinance. The first step in doing this site-specific hazard study is a site visit. And so we've structured it so If there is a property that's on the north side of 101 or is obviously protected by some other mechanism or some other barrier that wasn't accounted for in the model, then that would show up at that site visit stage. And the site visit is to be performed by a licensed professional and it would document the considerations at the site and that professional's best professional opinion as The coastal hazard screening areas map is accurate for that specific site.

And if it's not because the site's well north of 101 or there's some other barrier, then that would be good. That would be safe, reliable documentation and we wouldn't require anything further with regard to sea level rise.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:40:26 · ≈ 2:40 PM

Walk me through that a bit. So they would not be considered non-conforming structures?

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated5:40:36 · ≈ 2:40 PM

Correct, Chair Williams. If they are not subject to coastal hazards from sea level rise then they would not be considered non-conforming.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:40:45 · ≈ 2:40 PM

And I think this is really important for what the public gets out of this is so that for any of these properties The site analysis will determine whether they are non-conforming or not.

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated5:41:02 · ≈ 2:41 PM

That's correct, Chair Williams because we modeled the entire county coastline. We didn't have the funds and capability to do that site specific analysis for every individual site along the county's coastline. So these maps, that's why they're screening area maps. They're more of it at a planning level scale and not a specific site analysis scale.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:41:25 · ≈ 2:41 PM

Okay, I guess that does sound like a stop gap to prevent this from being overly applied.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed5:41:36 · ≈ 2:41 PM

Chair Williams, Supervisors. One thing to be might help also is we anticipated this issue in our draft ordinances. We actually created kind of a shortcut report process where a professional could go out and do a quick assessment. And if it's very obvious based on topography and characteristics of the modeling such as not factoring in the 101, they could do a very short report and then that would be the end of the process.

The Coastal Commission staff didn't agree with that but it may be an option to help deal with what we're addressing here if we go back to them and express our concerns and explain that we'd like to continue with that approach and factor that in as a way to provide relief in those situations where clearly the modeling is missing a key factor and in this case it's missing highway 101.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:42:31 · ≈ 2:42 PM

Well that would make me feel a lot better if we tried to restore that process because I think kind of the counter-argument just to relying on this site plan as well, you know, is what our development review need is one more hurdle You know in put in place, so you know I mean that's I would feel a little bit better about Attempting with the Coastal Commission to make that make that argument

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:42:57 · ≈ 2:42 PM

So mr. Chair just to be clear that is in our proposal right now The Coastal Commission staff hasn't agreed to it But it is in the proposal and it is and what we're recommending that you adopt okay

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:43:08 · ≈ 2:43 PM

And I think I can bend today

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:43:13 · ≈ 2:43 PM

So, Mr. Chair. I think what I'm hearing, I'm not positive I'm hearing it but I think what I'm hearing is that your board wants to amend the submittal to adopt the high sea level rise scenario. And I am not certain what I've heard about the 100 year versus 75 year and I haven't heard anything about the five-year review from anybody except I think Supervisor Hartman so I'm just trying to figure out

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:43:46 · ≈ 2:43 PM

I would rather go with 75 because I think they're going to make us do 100 and if we do 100 who knows what they'll do. That's the normal procedure that we've gone through twice before with the goals to commission. Yes, Supervisor Wolf.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:44:11 · ≈ 2:44 PM

So I would rather go with 100 but if we're gonna get our three votes and I'm okay with 75 as long as we have the language that specifies that a more restrictive amount will apply. I'm also fine with the five year review and also the high. And also, we haven't really talked about this but also as it relates to the transportation with Union Pacific Railroad changing should to shall.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:44:49 · ≈ 2:44 PM

So Mr. Chair I don't think that this is something we can accomplish today because-

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:44:56 · ≈ 2:44 PM

What's the, you mean the latter one?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:44:59 · ≈ 2:44 PM

No, the high. So the high scenario requires us to make some changes to the LCP submittal that I don't think we can do on the fly today. So I would recommend that we continue this and I would recommend we continue it until December 11th to take final action if that's where the board wants to go. But before you do that, we did hear a comment from one of the public speakers about the public input process. And I'd really like staff to address that because it didn't ring true to me. And I think it's important for the board and the public to understand what public process we went through.

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated5:45:39 · ≈ 2:45 PM

Thank you, so I'll give it just a really brief synopsis of the fairly extensive public outreach effort we did over the past year. So we had three public workshops in Carpinteria, Goleta and Gaviota areas We've had one interactive sea level rise demonstration event at Summerland Park at lookout point where we actually Staked out where seal rise would occur and it was on coastal cleanup day because we knew we would be getting a lot of residents to the beach that day. We had individual meetings with, and presentations to local groups like the Santa Barbara Association of Realtors, The Building Industry Association, The County's Agriculture Advisory Committee, The Citizens Planning Association. There were news articles in the Santa Barbara News Press Independent News Hawk that I'm aware of.

We prepared flyover videos of the whole county coastline and have made those available online for the past couple years now, as well as we have an online mapping tool where people can click through the different scenarios and hazards. And it's really easy to access, and that's all been on our website for quite a while now. We physically mailed out notices, postcard notices, to property owners along the coast.

And we've emailed notices out to all the interested stakeholders before the workshops and the hearings too. So thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:47:02 · ≈ 2:47 PM

Thank you for that Mr. Chair if I can just make one more comment? Sure. I forgot, I don't think I did mention the addition of section 30260 the language that was put up on the board

CommentBarbara LindemanProposed · by introduction5:47:17 · ≈ 2:47 PM

Mr. Gazzani. Chair and Supervisors, I agree with Director Black that the potential change from medium to high scenario would have several moving parts and would also recommend bringing it back but I had a question specifically for Supervisor Wolf on attachment 3 which is the draft resolution at pages 12 and 13 of that attachment within policy 3-22. The second and third sentences both have Should language and I just wanted to clarify so that we got it right if the board directs bringing this all back.

That you were referring to the second sentence, that the words should be identified would be changed to shall be identified but that you're still okay with the third sentence as a policy matter keeping should be considered. And I just want to make sure we get that right for you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:48:28 · ≈ 2:48 PM

Does anybody have a slide on this? I think all of them should be shalls. They shall be considered.

CommentBarbara LindemanProposed · by introduction5:48:35 · ≈ 2:48 PM

So you're considering... That I'm glad I asked and we understand your comment, thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:48:39 · ≈ 2:48 PM

you. I thought you were going to ask if it was possible that we could bring it back the week before the 11th so that the final vote would be on the 11th my last day but that's okay. It's okay, the 11th is great because that would be the moving of the ordinance. It's not the final day or the final vote but that's okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:49:07 · ≈ 2:49 PM

Mr. Chair and Supervisor, well if it is the final date because this ordinance has been through the planning commission so- It doesn't need two readings? No. Oh, well that's great! What a way to... So just to reiterate what I think you're including in direction to staff to come back with on December 11th is, you want to adopt the high scenario 75 year life. The five year review, you want to incorporate 30260 into policy 3-18. You want 3-10 to acknowledge that the Eastern Gleada Valley, well, to acknowledge that there are other standards and we have to comply with the most restrictive.

That policy 3-22 would include shall instead of should in sentences two and three. And then the only other issue I heard from Supervisor Wolf was with respect to policy 3-20 and including highway 217, and I wanted to follow up with that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:50:12 · ≈ 2:50 PM

Well, I think it should be included but I didn't know if it was possible to include it because I understood it hadn't been studied, but it seems like it should be included.

PresenterSelena Evelsizerme alsoProposedself-stated5:50:24 · ≈ 2:50 PM

Commissioner Wolf through the chair, it was studied. It's part of the vulnerability assessment and then in the vulnerability assessment maps you can see it's already subject to flooding now. Well then I do think

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:50:36 · ≈ 2:50 PM

we should thank you for bringing that up. I think those were all the changes that the board had

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:50:42 · ≈ 2:50 PM

discussed. Can you just remind me where the should Dichelle is?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:50:48 · ≈ 2:50 PM

It's in policy 3-22, and that policy talks about the county consulting and coordinating with Union Pacific Railroad. And then in the second sentence it says areas that will become regularly inundated by the ocean or at risk of periodic inundation from storm surge and sea level rise should be identified. That would be shall, and then the next sentence also has a should. That would be shall as well.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:51:15 · ≈ 2:51 PM

Okay,

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.865:51:15 · ≈ 2:51 PM

thank you. Supervisor Lavagnino? Thank you Mr. Chair and I just want, I know we're not voting today but for the record I was in support of the staff recommendation that is now toast so I won't be supporting the new motions that were made so, I mean not motions that were made but the new discussion that we're having I guess I've aligned myself with long-range planning now, which is now way too conservative apparently. I

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:51:53 · ≈ 2:51 PM

like how you cut that issue man, you really made us look like crazy radicals. Okay that is enough direction can I get a motion to continue?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.875:52:05 · ≈ 2:52 PM

So moved and the date is December 11th

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:52:10 · ≈ 2:52 PM

All those in favor, please say aye. Aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:52:19 · ≈ 2:52 PM

December 11th.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:52:19 · ≈ 2:52 PM

Continued until December 11th. The motion is to continue this item until December 11. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? It's 4-1 on the procedural motion. We are adjourned until next week in Santa Maria.