BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 December 4, 2018

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed29:06

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed30:46

. Hello. Hi. . Thank you. This meeting is adjourned. And this meeting will be held in conjunction with the Board of Supervisors meeting. This meeting is being recorded and will be available to all members who wish to make a comment on this item. Thank you very much. I'd like to introduce Mr. Mr. Michael McFadden. He's an assistant district attorney for the District of Columbia, and he's going to talk to us about how we're doing today. But before that, I want to ask Mr. McFadden if he has any comments or questions. First of all, I just wanted to say thank you both for coming out tonight.

Substitutes, please. I'm going to This is a test. I'm This meeting is being recorded for the purpose of discussion and public comment at this time. I'd like to invite members to join me in congratulating the Board of Supervisors on their new position as Supervisor of the University of New York. This meeting is being recorded for the record so that members of the public can see it as well. It's extremely important to be able to participate in this meeting, and I encourage all of you to do that. And if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to reach out to our board of supervisors. Thank you very much.

I'm going to This bill is passed unanimously. This meeting is adjourned. Let's get started. This meeting will be recorded so that we can continue the discussion on whether or not the Board of Supervisors would like to make a motion to adjourn this meeting. Members, if you wish to speak, please do so at this time. I'd like to start by saying that this is not a complete bill.

It's a proposal from the Board of Supervisors, and we're going to have to fight for it. We're going to have to fight against it, so we've got to have full discussion about whether or not we want to vote on this. And I just want you to know that Barbara County Board of Supervisors will be voting on this in front of members all over the country. So we'll look at what we think we can do with this bill.

Thank you. This is a test. I'm going to be talking about He was a member of the Board of Supervisors, and I'm very grateful to him as well. And so it's an honor for me to be here with you today. As we talked about yesterday, we've been talking a lot about the process itself, but also what I have learned over the last couple years is that there are some things that need to be done in order for the benefits of the public to be served by the public. And if it's not served by the public first of all, then I don't know why this is important.

And basically, we're asking the Board of Supervisors to look at how it's going to improve. If they have a negative view on this item, then we need to take it straight to the Board of Supervisors so that we can see if there are any technical issues in some areas. If not, then we'll go back and see if we can support them with amendments or if there is an issue that needs to be looked at more. We will do what's necessary before we go forward with this item. Thank you.

I'm going to be speaking on behalf of the Supervisory Board of Supervisors, and I'll be speaking on behalf of the Board of Governors. But before I do that, I just want to make a specific point about some of the comments made by members of the board over the years. And I would like to thank them for that, especially because it's not just my department, this is not only me. It is at least all the board members in the University of Wisconsin and so forth. Again, I think that's an excellent point.

I'm going to Speaks. This meeting is being recorded. Thank you. That is kind of the extent to which this is going to affect the county. It's an honor and a privilege to serve on the board of Supervisors. This act will be recorded as a session of the Board of Supervisors meeting on January 4th, 2015. Today is September 4th, we're in the middle of this month. And I want to start by saying thank you very much to all of those who have supported us at this time. We've had a lot of support over the last year and a half, so thank you very much for your support. We'll try to respond as quickly and as soon as we can. Thank you very much, members of Congress, and members of the public as well. I'm excited to be here today because it's such a wonderful day.

So let me start by thanking all of our faculty and staff. I'd just like to ask Mr. Chaffee if he has any comments or questions on this case? I know it's a big one, but I'm not going to go through all of them at once. So thank you for just sitting down with me today and I hope that you guys have some great meetings in the future as well. Thank you very much.

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PresenterAnai MendozaImmigrant Legal Defense CenterProposedself-stated1:01:33

One, two, three. And one more. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:01:44

So I would just like to say thank you to Santa Barbara County because great work is occurring in every county in California, but we don't always hear about it. And when we do, it allows great services to grow and for other folks to look at the innovation that's occurring here, replicate that in their counties as they try to provide the most outstanding services to their communities. There's nothing more relevant and important than protecting communities. That's exactly what This mapping tool allows for, and we will continue to learn from you and learn from others as we move forward to have more resources and greater protections for communities in the face of disasters. And so thank you all very much.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction1:02:36

We have two ceremonial items today, Ceremonial Resolutions A23 and A24. We have one item pulled for A2. Can I get a motion on the balance of the A agenda so that any staffers that are waiting for that can?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:02:56

Second.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction1:02:58

All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? And then can I get a motion on the ceremonial resolutions, A23 and A24. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? We'll hear A23.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction1:03:20

All right, Chair Williams and members of the board. Item A23 is sponsored by our chair Supervisor Williams. It's a resolution of commendation honoring Diana Estorga from the Public Works Department as our December 2018 Employee of the Month for Santa Barbara County and if Diana could come on up with Scott and his team I'll read the resolution into the record Whereas, Diana Estorga is a project manager with the Public Works Department Transportation Division. She's been nominated as our Santa Barbara County Employee of the Month for December 2018. Whereas, Diana started her career on August 2nd 1999 in the Public Works Department as part of a rotation program where she had the rare opportunity to work in the flood control section of the Water Resources Division as well as the traffic construction and engineering sections of the Transportation Division exposing her to the variety of roles that engineers serve in in the department Diana continues to serve today in the engineering section of the Transportation Division.

And whereas, throughout Diana's career she has surpassed expectations working countless hours of overtime as an overtime exempt employee to diligently provide excellent service institutional knowledge and leadership to everyone she works with including the interns new hires project team members management executives and most importantly members of the public across all districts in the county And whereas, Diana continues to be a model representative for the Public Works Department in a variety of roles including serving as department representative on committee meetings as well as designing, managing and supporting projects ranging from small sidewalk enhancements to complex multi-million dollar capital improvement projects and disaster relief efforts.

And whereas Diane has excelled as Public Works employee by always being well prepared and exemplifying the meaning of civil service, by remaining courteous while listening and evaluating concerns of the public and other team members. Her positive attitude and approach to her work are commonly recognized and complimented by a variety of departments within the county state federal agencies as well as members of the public who often go out of their way to contact our department to thank her for outstanding customer service. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved by the Board of Supervisors As they commend and recognize Diana Estorga for exceptional and continuous contributions to the work of Santa Barbara County, I name her Employee of the Month for December 2018.

Pass and adopt.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:05:47

Chair Williams and members of the board, thank you for honoring Diana Storger this morning as our county's Employee of the Month. And we want to thank Diana's family for being here as well to honor her. She is just fabulous. She is a tremendous representative of the County of Santa Barbara in our Department of Public Works. As mentioned in the resolution, Diana works tirelessly to serve the public that we serve. You'll often find her at night, late into the evening, early hours of the morning Working and on any given day, we've heard a lot about the debris flow today out in Montecito. You would have found Diana covered in mud directing contractors and redesigning roadways that needed to be fixed and put back together so the community could get back on their feet and she just did a fabulous job and through all that She's also stayed involved in the disaster recovery team.

I think we've had 15 roads put back together from a permanent restoration perspective and her leadership has been instrumental to make that happen. She's out there ensuring that we maximize our FEMA and our FHWA reimbursements as well, which is key. And she just exemplifies the best aspects of engineering and applying expert technical knowledge and good judgment to her work every day. She's a tremendous representative of all of you on the board, myself as the leader in Public Works and we're just tickled that she's being honored today as County Employee of the Month. So Diana thank you so much.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:07:26

Good morning. Thank you, Chair Williams and members of the board. I brought a notebook today because that's what I do when I go to meetings. I always try to take something away from every meeting I go too. Always try to learn something. There's not words of a speech in here but I really wanted to speak from my heart today I thought a lot about why I dedicate so much time and work those extra hours or take that time to research something. It's about the people around me, and first it's my family.

They taught me dedication, dedication to each other. They've always showed their love for me and they believe in me, and many of my friends and family are watching at home. Thankfully they were worried that it wasn't going to work. But they have always been so supportive of me, and they've taught me what hard work is. My parents are my first example of what hard work is and being involved with my community.

My community also drives me to do the same work. I love being out engaging with the public, going out to public meetings good and bad. I love hearing what they desire for their community. It shows that they care and has really taught me to listen and try to take that back and incorporate that into the projects I work on. I also want to thank my colleagues who 19 years ago when I started at the county, I had the opportunity to rotate through all the divisions in public works as well as through many sections in transportation.

And not only was it an opportunity to grow as an engineer and learn all the aspects of public works, but really to put a name to a face for the people that I'd be working for in the coming years. They've offered me so much guidance. It taught me so much and they've always done it graciously. And I think those relationships and those experiences Have really transcended today and especially this year.

With the Thomas fire, I've never been so proud to be part of a team that every morning would get out there for the community of Montecito and for the county to work hard and really care about the people that were struck by tragedy. I'd also like to thank Walter, my manager and who has supervised me for so many years. Just the daily consulting and guidance that he's given me.

He's also an inspiration. Many weekends he dedicates his time to volunteering in the community. And to Scott and Chris, Alex and Julie and Mark and Tom. I thank you for this recognition. It's really been an honor to have their leadership and for them to recognize my growth, and to trust in my input and to trust my work. I've had the opportunity to go back even as an employee of transportation and work with Tom and Mark whether it be on a project or review team so I appreciate those opportunities and that experience.

And finally, I just want to say how proud I am to be representing Public Works and the county today. I can't really express how much this means to me and I just hope that I can pass on the same experience And be a mentor to many of my new colleagues. That is something that I cherish, is to be able to teach them what I've learned and hopefully continue at the county. Thank you so much.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction1:11:52

Chair Williams, members of the board. Item 824 this resolution is co-sponsored by Supervisors Wolf and Hartman it's a resolution claiming December 1 2018 as World AIDS Day in Santa Barbara County and we're going to go to Santa Barbara for this presentation where we have Stephanie Laufenburg and Patrick Lara and they should be in attendance in Santa Barbara and I think we have staff there to present the resolution to them at the appropriate time.

There they are and I will go ahead and read the resolution into the record. Whereas December 1, 2018 marks the 30th anniversary of World's AIDS Day. Launched in 1988, the annual observance highlights worldwide efforts to combat HIV-AIDS. World AIDS Day is also an occasion to show support for those living with HIV and to remember those who have died from the infection. And whereas the 2018 theme for World AIDS Day is Know Your Status.

36.9 million people globally live with HIV and only 59% roughly have access to antiretroviral therapy, whereas new HIV infections have been reduced by 47% since its peak in 1996. And whereas ending the AIDS epidemic is more than a historical obligation to the 39 million people who have died of the disease, it also represents a momentous opportunity to lay the foundation for a healthier, more just and equitable world for future generations Ending the AIDS epidemic will inspire broader global health and development efforts demonstrating what can be achieved through global solidarity, evidence-based action and multi-sector partnerships.

Whereas through global health partnerships and awareness campaigns including at the local level the UNAIDS organization strives to achieve the following global health outcomes by 2020 that 90% of all people living with HIV will know their status That 90% of all people with a diagnosed HIV infection will receive sustained antiretroviral therapy, and 90% of all people receiving antiretroviral therapy will have viral suppression. And now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors of the Santa Barbara County does hereby proclaim the first day of December 2018 as World AIDS Day in Santa Barbara County pass and adopted today.

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PresenterPatrick Lyra Lanierour many clients andProposedself-stated1:14:11

Hi everyone. I'm Patrick Lyra Lanier, the LGBTQ plus program manager for Pacific Pride, Santa Barbara County's 42 years young LGBTQ plus and HIV AIDS center. And on behalf of our many clients and our staff we just want to thank you from our hearts for this important proclamation in this acknowledgement of the 30th anniversary of World AIDS Day. Thank you so much from all of us

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction1:14:46

Our last item on our agenda is A2.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction1:14:51

Chair Williams, members of the Board, Item A2 is from the Auditor-Controller. It's to consider recommendations regarding the single audit reports for fiscal year ending June 30, 2018.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.881:15:01

Supervisor Lavendiniu. Thank you Mr. Chair well I'm kind of glad today I pulled this item because since we're We're in a mode of honoring employees. This was something when I first got here that, well, I felt like I needed to pull it this time because when I first got here and I don't think the department was as focused maybe on this single audit. And so I wanted to pull this item today to acknowledge all the hard work that Department of Social Services has put into Implement systems and corrective actions. I think this item probably singularly tells us how well we are protecting taxpayer dollars. This is the item where, I think we were in that department charged with over in this particular audit, we were looking over $100 million worth of funding that came from the federal government.

And so the feds come in to see how we're handling their money and These are very complex programs from the eligibility requirements all the way through the processing timelines that need to be met, to the reporting. And I think this audit shows once again the great work that Department of Social Services is doing from the top all the way down to the folks that are answering the phones in the Eligibility Center.

I just wanted to acknowledge those folks, say great job and keep up the good work. So we really appreciate everything that you've been doing.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction1:16:39

Can I get a motion on A2? All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Thank you. And any public comment for items not on the agenda?

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction1:16:55

Chair Williams, members of the board we have four requests to speak this morning. We're going to go to Santa Barbara first for Nancy Emerson to be followed by Ed Kolaski.

PresenterNancy EmersonWe Watch in the San Ynez ValleyProposedself-stated1:17:12

Good morning Chairman Williams and Board of Supervisors. I just want to comment that reading your agendas surely has made me aware of the complexity of your responsibilities, and I just wanted to say thank you for all you do. And now I want to talk about one matter that you work on. I'm Nancy Emerson, President of We Watch in the San Ynez Valley. When the cannabis land use ordinance was being developed as far as we know no San Ynez Valley public entities or citizen organizations participated in the decision making and that includes We Watch.

Now the only citizen organization focused on land use issues in the valley. For our absence, I apologize. Our valley is unique in the county in being agricultural but with much income from the large wine and tourist industry because of our rural setting, Solvang, and the casino. Cannabis cultivation creates a compatibility problem not addressed in the ordinance.

The ordinance does not honor our San Ynez Valley community plan update. We began studying the ordinance last spring and asking questions. We noted that Montecito, which has a planning commission was able to opt out of cannabis activities on its agricultural lands. We're not asking for that. We saw that you outlined the problems cannabis can cause in the Right to Farm Ordinance and acknowledged in the Cannabis Ordinance that revision of it would be needed.

We are now convinced that the ordinance must be revised or the Santee and Nez Valley will be badly damaged. The urgency level has risen due to a totally inappropriate but allowed cannabis cultivation application. Residents have had to hire an attorney to protect them. We respectfully request that sections B and D of the ordinance Be reviewed and revised to protect residents, tourists, and wineries in the cities, townships, and on Ag 1 and 2 parcels in our valley and beyond our valley as applicable. In the text which I'm leaving for you here there are some examples of ordinance problems.

We recognize that long-range planning staff are already on overload, but this matter needs priority status. Please help us. Thank you.

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GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction1:20:10

Our next speaker is Ed Kalaski to be followed by Tim Mahoney in Santa Barbara.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:20:19

Would you put my drawing on the board Ken? For the last five years, I've been trying to remodel my house. We wanted to add 400 square feet for a garage and 300 square feet for living quarters. Have not been able to do it. If anyone believes that this is a democracy in the second district you are sadly mistaken. Here are few items illegal functions that have been carried out by the Board of Architectural Review.

These have been sanctioned by our supervisor in the second district This is really disgusting. I mean, it's not just one or two items. I got 15 here and if I sat down, I probably can think up a few more. Isn't this embarrassing to at least the other supervisors? How can you stand this? I don't understand. We have to live like this in the second district just because of our supervisor?

This is what we vote for? We vote for this kind of action or lack of action. You turn your heads, aren't you embarrassed? You should be. This is why we pay our taxes so we can talk to our neighbors and our neighbors can complain too. They're all corrupt as they put it but we should celebrate. Celebrate that our second district supervisor will be leaving. This is a joyous moment I can hardly wait.

It cannot possibly, possibly be worse. We don't need a dictator. We need the democracy. You know you've got rules for the supervisors? Well we the people have laws and those laws should have been enacted back in 1776 they knew about this! In the First Amendment they said that well if you have a problem you bring it before your congressman or whatever and they will correct the situation.

I've been here five years and all I get is people with the exception of Adam turning their heads away and not dealing with this You know it's at least time for Alex Pujo to be removed from the Board of Architectural Review downstairs. He's carried out these actions, everything from kicking us out of the meeting in 15 seconds, the fifth meeting we did exactly what they requested. No you cannot show your drawing! No you cannot speak! Get out of here! We've got one guy jumping up and screaming at us to get out of here!

This is how you run the Board of Architectural Review? You should be ashamed, totally ashamed. How could anyone be like that? So ignorant of what's going on downstairs. Thank you.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction1:23:21

Stay in Santa Barbara for Tim Mahoney. Tim and then we'll come back to Santa Maria for our final speaker, Deb Andrews.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:23:30

Good morning Mr. Chairman, members of the board, Tim Mahoney I'm with Southern California Gas Company here today to talk about renewable natural gas and energy balance but before I do I just wanted also to point out my respect for the first responders for the Thomas fire and the debris flow a gas company and myself were part of that Was going down to the Ventura County Fairgrounds there for the incident command post. And then as the fire moved up here, was working at the EOC here and the Office of Emergency Management as well as the Earl Warren.

And then just recently was down there at the Camarillo Airport Incident Command Center for the Woolsley Hall Fire. So a great deal of respect for all of the first responders and the people that were also mentioned as our second and third responders. But getting back to my topic at hand now is talking about natural gas. Your constituents, my customers all enjoy this particularly at this time of the year waking up when it's cold they flip on the thermostat out comes the warm air from the natural gas.

Our residents and customers really enjoy this but I wanted to bring to your attention and awareness to the public that there is a movement in California to electrify everything and that would mean that people's choice to use natural gas and other fuels would be taken away with the electrification. And that is a mistake quite frankly. I'm not here to oppose electricity, I am an electrical customer myself as everyone is but there is a need for balanced electricity within the California energy portfolio We're up here at the end of my service territory, my last customer's camp Roberts in San Luis Obispo County. Beyond that all of the farmers and rural people they're all on bottle gas. They're all using propane and butane in those large bullet containers that you see out there, the silver ones.

That's an example of balanced energy and California when we try and electrify everything, it's gonna cost thousands of dollars and misplace a lot of good people's intentions. And the solution for this, I started off with this is renewable natural gas. And that is natural gas from dairies, agricultural waste, Wastewater treatment centers, sewer plants and landfills dumps things of that nature.

This operations of those entities they're already creating emissions that methane is going to the atmosphere. Southern California Gas Company can capture that, clean it, put it in our pipelines and specifically use that for heavy duty trucking fuels. We're pretty well blessed in Santa Barbara County because most of the refuge trucks are all run on natural gas and that's an example of how the balanced energy portfolio can be used. So I wanted just to thank you for this time and certainly we'll be sending out some more information. Thank you.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction1:26:39

Back to Santa Maria for Deb Andrews.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:26:48

Hi. Deb Andrews, Lompoc. Highway 1 south of Lompoc resurfacing project looks beautiful. They did a great job but there's one big problem with the design. They put sharp curbs along the outer edge of the roadway. The highway is very scenic lots of hills curves up and down driving it's a two-lane road If a vehicle's tires contact the curb, or worse go up over the curb one can easily lose control of the car. It would be very difficult to return to the roadway over the high sharp curb. There have recently been a series of fatal accidents on Highway 1 south of Lompoc. I urge you to have the curbs removed.

Eighty years ago, Iowa put curbs on the highway. My family frequently drove across Iowa on our way to Illinois. The curbs were more of a gentle slope on that highway at that time. I experienced firsthand how the curbs seemed to grab the steering wheel out of the driver's hands if the wheel came into contact with that curb. Iowa removed the curbs. You can access the information online, it's the Iowa Highway Commission Curb Removal Report of 1962.

The curbs are a known hazard. Another safety issue, I've read about complex fire warning discussions. I suggest contacting perhaps the Nuclear Energy Agency officials about the warning system they developed to warn around a 30 mile radius of nuclear power plants. The system may be helpful to your discussion. Thank you.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction1:28:39

That concludes public comment.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction1:28:44

We'll hear departmental item number one.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction1:28:47

Chair Williams, members of the board as we move into item number one I just have a couple of quick announcements for anybody who is in attendance here or in Santa Barbara or watching online or on channel 20 that item two from community services regarding residential property assessed clean energy financing that item will be withdrawn from the agenda today And item four from the sheriff, which is a hearing to consider recommendations during the annual truth act report and community forum will not be heard today prior to 3 p.m So that's information for the for the public

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction1:29:18

so it will be heard but only at 3 p m Right. Thank

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction1:29:21

you before three Item number one is from social services as a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Child Welfare Services 2018 annual update

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:29:31

Good morning Chair Williams and Supervisors, Daniel Nielsen with the Department of Social Services. In 2016 the Department of Social Services made a commitment to your board to provide an annual report on our Child Welfare Services Program as a result of the Child Welfare Safety Net Task Force Report that was presented to your board in the spring of 2016 so this is our third annual report to your board.

During the course of this report today, Deputy Director Amy Krueger will be referencing several items that are actions and outcomes that tie back to that Child Welfare Safety Net Task Force Report for the purpose of clarity in terms of ongoing actions that tie back to those recommendations. So with that I will turn the presentation over to Deputy Director Amy Krueger.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:30:21

Thank you. Good morning, Chair Williams and Board. Today we will be covering a snapshot of updated Child Welfare Services statistics

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:30:31

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:30:36

I had it? Sorry Can you hear me now? Okay. Thank you. All right, apologies. So we'll be covering a snapshot of updated child welfare services statistics. We will be covering an overview of the Child Welfare Services System Improvement Plan as well as providing important updates on two items, the commercially sexually exploited children's program as well as continuum of care reform.

So here we have a snapshot of some of our recent caseload data from calendar year 2015 through 2017. And as you can see, there have been downward trends in both the number of in-person investigations as well as the average number of open child welfare cases. And significantly, the number of children who are placed in foster care has also continued to decline.

We have an average of 361 in care in 2017 down from 406 in 2016 which is an 11% decrease over just one year. And part of the reason for this is because we're seeing fewer children entering foster care, and that is because of our investment in prevention and early intervention through our programs such as differential response and voluntary family preservation.

The other reason for that is because we have a high number of children exiting to permanency still. Because we have less coming in the front and more quickly moving out of the back, we're seeing that number in care remaining low. As you can see also, the average time they're spending in care is also remaining fairly low down slightly 14.5 in 2017 from 14.7 in 2016.

In looking at the placement types, we are seeing positive changes in the types of placements children are in out-of-home care when they're entering foster care. The majority continue to be placed in home based family settings and the highest number of those are placed with relatives and nonrelated extended family members. We're also seeing an increase in the number of children placed in our county resource family homes.

And at the same time, we're seeing a corresponding decrease in the number of children we have placed in foster family agency homes and that's because of that shift in since we have more resource family homes with the county were relying less on foster family agency homes. A high number of our transition age youth are choosing to live in supervised independent living placements. So as you can see, that number has increased and finally our group home placements have declined 2% in the last year and we'll talk a little more about those efforts later on in our presentation.

Oops, did I? Okay. So to put into context where we are in terms of our CFSR timeline, our five-year system improvement plan was submitted to the state for review in December of 2017 and was subsequently approved by your board on February 2018. Our first year SIP progress report was submitted to the state in September 2018 and we just received approval last week of our progress report.

Over the next few slides, we will cover our current performance on CFSR measures as well as updates on our system improvement plan focus areas, strategies and goals. So this slide has a lot of information on it, and I apologize for the small font. But we wanted to make sure you had all of the information to make sense of this here. It shows our performance on these seven federal children family services review measures as well as the three key California measures. So starting from the left, we have the measure We have the federal and state standard in the second column, our current county performance in the third column. And then in the last column that is just the percentage of the standard we are meeting. So anything above 100 percent, we're meeting it and those are indicated in green.

If we're not meeting it, it's in red, anything below 100 percent. I know it's hard to see but I'll let you know exactly what those numbers are. So on the first two measures which look at safety, we have maltreatment in foster care and recurrence of maltreatment. And we consistently exceed the federal standard in these areas. In the next three measures, we're looking at permanency.

Although we have not been able to consistently meet the standard for permanency in 12 months, we consistently meet it in the 12-23 month and over 24 months time periods. The under 12 months there that's actually a 99 percent in the red so we're very close but not quite meeting it. And the reason for that is largely due to systemic factors such as court continuances and timeframes that are associated with complex issues that families are dealing with, such as substance abuse and mental health treatment.

In the area of reunification in particular, moving to permanency too early can lead to an increase in the fourth permanency measure which looks at reentry to foster care, another area where we're exceeding the federal standard. The final permanency measure, placement stability is an area where we have struggled to meet the standard. And while we strive to minimize the number of placement moves for a child, systemic factors such as the practice of placing children in shelter care initially before placing them with relatives or longer term placements can have an impact on this measure.

We also consistently exceed the performance standards on the three key state measures for timely investigations and social worker visits. And this is another top priority for our staff as timely investigations and visits to children in foster care are important components of ensuring child safety. And we consistently rank among the top percent of all counties in these measures because we prioritize them.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:37:22

Mr. Chair? Can we go back to that previous slide? And you're right this has got a lot of information on it but it really is important and I just want to acknowledge the importance of what you talked about with the timely investigation, seeing those numbers. I can't recall where we were before. I know we've always been high but this is really exceptional and I think this is what I just wanted to ask a question on the maltreatment in foster care.

If you can go into that a little bit more, because that actually is a little disturbing. That even occurs. So if you can just talk about it and then what happens to those kids? Because it seems like then they're kind of re-victimized.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:38:27

Yes, absolutely. Supervisor Wolf through the chair. Maltreatment and foster care looks at any child who's victimized while they're in out-of-home care and so that can include either while they're in care with a resource family, a relative or it can also include when they are with a parent still So that is something that we absolutely take very seriously. We prioritize any responses to allegations of abuse or neglect in out-of-home care, and we treat them all as immediate responses because we want to make sure that any children who are placed in out-of home care are absolutely cared for at the highest standard possible.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:39:08

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:39:13

Supervisor Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.841:39:14

I just had a question about the policy underlying the transition from children in foster family agency care versus counties, are we trying to get more children placed through county foster care as opposed to other organizations? And what's behind that and what changes does it imply?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:39:37

Thank you, Supervisor Hartman through the chair. We don't have a policy necessarily for that change. I think it's largely just a result of our increased recruitment efforts around continuum of care reform and the Our County Our Kids campaign so we've seen a huge increase in the number of county homes that we have available We still rely on our foster family agency partners to provide placements. And either way, it's a home-based family placement so we're really looking for the best fit for the child.

But because of our efforts we just have more county homes now than we did previously and more options to be able to do the best match for kids.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.841:40:15

Are there any budgetary implications? I know one of the things is that a child doesn't receive two visits from two different social workers. That is, from the family agency as well as the county. Are there any other differences?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:40:30

Foster family agencies are considered a higher level of care than a county resource home. They do have the additional social worker support and they do have a higher administrative cost associated with the placement than county homes do.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:40:48

Let me repeat that one more time. So

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction1:40:50

the outside agencies have a higher rate of?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:40:55

The rate for placement, it has an administrative cost built in for the foster family agency and so it is a higher payment for the placement than a county home which is just a direct payment to the family.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:41:07

And are the, statistically are the outcomes about the same or

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:41:15

That it depends. I mean, there's a lot of different outcomes associated with the placement so it depends what outcome we're looking at. They're both like I said foster family, family placements as opposed to congregate care. So as far as the outcomes in terms of permanency, they tend to be fairly similar. A lot of our resource family county homes are also relatives And so the outcomes also differ from relatives to unmatched families and foster family agencies.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction1:41:50

Got it, so because our county ones have a higher incidence of family members it might be an unfair comparison?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:41:58

It is a slightly different population yes. Okay, so moving on to our system improvement plan focus. The focus areas chosen for the system improvement plan are based upon the information learned from the county self-assessment, the peer review and are aligned with the strategies of the state and California's program improvement plan. The first two measures permanency in 12 months and placement stability are focuses of our previous SIPP. And that is because those are the two areas where we're trying to meet the federal standard.

And for this system improvement plan, we have a new focus which is a systemic factor and that is workforce wellness. So many of the strategies included in the system improvement plan continue to align with the recommendations of the Child Welfare Safety Net Task Force report. In particular, strategies which address the need for strengthening collaboration and communication, support for increased trauma-informed training, promotion of reconciliation, increase resource family recruitment, retention and support, expanded services for youth and families As well as greater support for our social work staff.

So our first SIP focus area, permanency within 12 months is about achieving permanency for children in the form of reunification, adoption or guardianship and the federal goal is that 40.5% of children will achieve permanency in less than 12 months. According to the data for quarter four of 2017, 73 out of 183 or 40.1% of children who entered care between January and December found permanency within 12 months.

Although we were just short of meeting the federal standard, we made significant improvements in this area from our baseline specifically in the area of reunification. We've made progress in this area and we're cautiously optimistic that the trend will continue over the next four years as we continue to implement a number of strategies from our plan, including expanding the use of safety organized practice. Increased focus on quality engagement of families and improved communication with our juvenile court partners.

And on this slide, we just wanted to highlight the progress we have made in our first year to improve family engagement through the implementation and increased use of child and family teams also called CFT meetings. And one of our goals for improving permanency in 12 months is to strengthen engagement of children, youth, families, and stakeholders in case planning and decision-making processes.

And the use of a strength-based family centered CFT process is really key to engaging children, youth and families in the development of their individual case plans as well as other related services designed to meet their needs. In addition to the child or youth and family members, the CFT composition includes the social worker, current caregiver and any individuals identified by the family as being important to them.

In some cases, the CFT may also include mental health clinicians, foster family agency social workers, parent or youth partners, court-appointed special advocates or school personnel. Our second SIP focus area placement stability is about keeping children in stable placements and minimizing the number of placement moves in the selected 12 month period. The federal goal is that the rate of placement moves will be less than 4.12, and on this measure it's just important to note that 4. 12 is not the number of placement moves per child but rather a calculated measure based on several different data points During the review period, there's been an increased effort to place children into non-shelter care placements. And these efforts have been bolstered by the addition of a dedicated emergency placement social worker who works to approve relatives for the first placement of the child whenever possible.

Relative placements as a first placement have increased by 8% from 2016 to 2017 as a result of this change. Despite these efforts, the placement stability outcome did see a very slight decline in performance from the baseline to the current measurement. And while this measurement considers stability it does not take into consideration positive placement moves that may improve overall outcomes for children. For example when a child is placed in a group home and is able to become stable and moved back with a relative or when we're able to move a child out of shelter into a long-term placement Those are positive placements for the child, but it negatively impacts our performance on this measure.

So one of our goals for improving placement stability is to enhance practices and strategies that result in more children having permanent stable placements connections to community culture and important adults. On this slide, we're highlighting the progress we have made in our first year through development of an RFP to be released in the spring for resource family support programs which will provide an array of post-placement services to resource families including family advocacy and support, referrals to community resources, educational advocacy, and training.

In addition, we have created a new family engagement and support unit that is charged with actively seeking out relatives through the life of the case to meet the child's needs for placement, permanency and to maintain family connections. Whenever a willing and able relative cannot be located our placement coordinator will be utilized to find a family-based placement capable of meeting the child's needs.

Another important aspect of the Family Engagement and Support Unit will be placement support for youth with complex needs.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:48:36

Mr. Chair?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:48:38

Supervisor Wolk?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:48:39

Thank you, back on slide 11 he mentioned the child and family team meetings and how the numbers have increased significantly so are those, they're called CFTs So now with this new RFP, is this a supplement to that? To those team meetings. Is this something that the families can choose to do or are offered? How does that work in combination with those meetings?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:49:12

Supervisor Wolf through the chair, the RFP is for a family placement support program and that will consist of placement specialists who will be working with the families either in their homes or through the CFT process to provide support in any area they need it. And that's to help retention and support for our resource families.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:49:33

So do they work with the county if there's mental health issues or the schools? I just, I'm trying to figure out the coordination with other agencies.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:49:43

They're meant to be a liaison in supporting the family and so connecting them with those people who will be fulfilling their roles on the CFT. I'm helping either advocate for them, refer them to resources, get them training that they need. They will not be a service provider, a direct service provider but more of a coordinator liaison for the families.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:50:06

All right

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:50:07

thank you. So for the placement support model for the youth with complex needs, there'll be an addition of a time-limited secondary CWS worker who will help to provide support to the resource family and facilitate service delivery. The child and family teaming process will be used to identify strengths and needs, support care coordination, assess progress, and inform decisions about placement.

This is in addition to the resource family support person where we will have a child welfare social worker who will be part of the child and family team, and who will be able to help though again internally to ensure that services are being delivered. That care coordination is seamless and the family are getting all the support that they need and communication is flowing back and forth.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction1:51:09

And this is a resource that both you have identified a need for in the past. And I think a lot of resource families have also hoped that they would get support, maybe not always asking for this in particular but support like this. Are you identifying How we would accomplish this fiscally or is this really the political will question of whether we can execute this?

Or do you, so how are we going to do this? What's the plan for doing this financially? Because I've wanted this. I've waited this up have advocated for this. So I'm very happy but I would just want to know that Chair Williams,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:51:53

I'll dive in. So I've had conversations with you and I think some of the other members of the board about these issues and related issues over the past year. We thought that to add this that we might need additional resources but it turned out with the increasing realignment revenues that we were able to fund it with our existing funds because of the economy doing so well and our realignment revenues being better than projected. So we have it covered for the time being

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CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction1:52:25

How soon can you hire the position?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:52:30

Chair Williams, we are working on that right now. We're interviewing last week and this week so we are working to fill this position as we speak.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction1:52:38

This is really great news. Please proceed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:52:44

So moving on to our third SIP focus area, workforce wellness. This is about developing a trauma-informed workplace that ensures a healthy and competent workforce and it is a systemic factor so unlike the other previous two measures there's no established federal standard. Instead progress on this systemic factor will be measured using survey results from the California Social Work Education Center Workforce Study, departmental human resources data relating to the retention of social worker staff as well as other feedback from our staff.

And so why we chose to focus on workforce wellness is because our staff and stakeholders have identified concerns about caseloads and job stress. We know that attrition rates for child welfare social workers are, on average, higher than other job classes which is not unusual for child welfare but it is a data point that we need to take into consideration. And we know that child welfare work is incredibly complex Demanding and also incredibly important.

Our staff are essential in assuring the safety, permanency and well-being of the vulnerable children and youth that we serve. A healthy and stable workforce ultimately contributes to a higher job satisfaction, reduced turnover and results in greater continuity and improved outcomes for children and families. And assessing and improving CWS recruitment and retention strategies to improve stability in our child welfare workforce is also one of the department's Renew 22 strategies.

So on this slide we are highlighting the progress we've made in our first year to support a healthy and stable workforce. In October of 2017, Child Welfare staff participated in a workforce study through the California Social Worker Education Center known as CALSWEC. This study collected data and information on a number of domains including job satisfaction, commitment to agency, stress, and burnout.

Results of this study show that in general many of our staff are satisfied with their jobs, but many of them also reported experiencing stress and a small number burnout. Results of this study showed that in general Excuse me. CalSWC hosted interactive webinars in April of 2018 to share the results of the survey with our leadership as well as our staff and these survey results were used to work with staff to guide development of new strategies in how to recruit and retain more child welfare staff So in response, we have expanded availability of secondary trauma support and crisis debriefing for our staff.

And we're actively working with Calswek to prepare completion of the next round of surveys which will also include additional questions related to secondary trauma. We've worked to improve our recruitment processes for social workers with the use of job preview videos and letters. And this ensures that job candidates will have a realistic understanding of the demands of a job with CWS, and that they'll be better prepared as they enter the workforce.

We've also developed a child welfare social worker practice team, and members of this team completed their own survey of staff satisfaction and collected ideas on how to improve morale and job satisfaction. They have prioritized working on a unit mentor program, continuing to treat secondary trauma, and other ways to improve communication and staff morale. A member of the social worker practice team attends our CWS leadership team meeting and has a standing agenda item to report out on the teams ideas, goals and any concerns they have.

The Social Worker Practice Team is part of our team-based program development structure, which promotes performance through partnership and communication at all levels, strengthening and supporting our child welfare workforce, which ultimately will lead to improved outcomes for children in families. A number of our other child welfare teams including our core practice model, our safety organized practice team, and the CWS action team are also working on issues related to staff retention.

So turning to our Commercial Sexual Exploitation of Children's Program, known as CSEC. This critically important issue is entering its fourth year and since 2014 our department has been working to address the concerns of this population and this was a concern shared by the Child Welfare Safety Net Task Force. So to summarize the development of the CSEC program over the last few years, beginning in 2014 Senate Bill 855 clarified the Child Welfare Dependency Code to include commercially sexually exploited children as dependents.

In addition it established the optional state CSEC program which provides funding to participating counties for prevention and intervention services and training related to children who are victims of CSEC. SB 855 further required child welfare to lead a team comprised of representatives from probation, public health, behavioral wellness and the juvenile court in the development of an interagency protocol.

SB 794 passed in 2016 added new requirements focused on implementation of policies and procedures to identify, document and determine appropriate services for children and youth who are victims of CSEC. And further it required child welfare to implement protocols to locate missing children and youth as well as new reporting requirements to law enforcement for any known or suspected instances of CSEC for youth and foster care.

SB 1322 passed in 2017 requires counties to continue building cross systemic collaboration between law enforcement, probation and child welfare. An increased communication information sharing has been essential in establishing the strong multidisciplinary efforts that we need to best support this vulnerable population.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:59:24

Supervisor Adam. I'm just looking at your sentence that's right there under the 1322 and It just seems like, I mean wouldn't that encourage people that are over 18 to push solicitation and prostitution on to people who are under 18? Because they can't be prosecuted. We have that going on with some other things and that's what we're seeing is The younger kids end up doing more of the crimes because they're just not subject to prosecution.

So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:00:04

Supervisor Adam through the chair, that may be a potential impact. However the decriminalization of youth is a very important aspect to the whole CSEC reform. That was one of the most concerning pieces prior to this was that children Were being prosecuted for offenses that as a child that they had no control over and they were the ones being penalized.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:00:36

And I want to correct something, actually they were not. I voted on this in an effort to try to make it a informed decision on voting. I actually dug up the records to see. Whether under 18 folks were ever getting prosecuted and convicted for these offenses, and the fact is they were not. It was being at least If you believe law enforcement, it was generally being used as a tool to get folks under 18 into diversion programs because there was a stick and a carrot. And the fear that some of us had would be that there would be less enrollment in the diversion or recovery programs.

But the fact is, almost no one was being convicted of these crimes that were under 18. And so the advocates were left with the argument of doing this to remove the stigma and I'm not sure. So I'm weighing the value of removing the stigma of being a trafficked individual And I'm not sure this removes the stigma, but that is the logic versus what the numbers are in diversion programs. And I haven't seen that number yet. I'm looking for that number. I want to know that number if you run across it please tell me because I think it matters how many young individuals end up getting the help they need because a large number of them Believe they're in love, believe that their boyfriend is looking out for their best interest. And I put again boyfriend in quotations but unfortunately that's how a lot of sex trafficked young people think of their pimp and so it is difficult to convince A trafficked individual to get help and I just would love it if there was any numerical analysis on either way.

You know, I would love to be proved that my fears were unfounded and just as many people are getting in the diversion programs but I also fear that might not be the case because now you can't say we're going to prosecute you if you don't get into this diversion program. And so if in your course of your work you run across that, that would be really helpful for me to understand.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:03:26

Yeah and that's kind of where I was going is you know how Where's the hook? To get them into some kind of a treatment program Instead of just saying Go out there and do more of it because she can't be prosecuted. I mean that seems seems a little counterproductive

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:03:49

Mr. Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:03:51

Supervisor.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:03:52

Thank you. I can't recall the name right now but behavioral wellness has a program specifically for young girls who have, I think that we're talking about and you know I've listened to some of their presentations and it is difficult to work with some of these young girls to move them away from the practices that they were engaged in But, and again I can't think of the acronym right now but there is a program in Santa Maria that has been seemingly very successful in working with these young girls. Do you recall the name? Yes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:04:34

Supervisor Wolf through the chair that's the RISE

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:04:36

Program.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:04:38

And they do regularly work with our dependents who are victims of CSEC as well as probation victims.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:04:47

Right okay. Maybe at some point when we talk about sex trafficking, and I know that there's been some public meetings about this in the community. It might be something to consider next year having a presentation from all of the different departments that are working on this particular issue. Because it is very complicated, from what I understand and very difficult. But the RISE program just stands out as one of those programs that we have in the county that is really doing a good job in tackling this really difficult problem.

Thank you Mr. Chair

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:05:32

Yes, the RISE program has been very valuable and I just wanted to also respond that the programs and treatments available are available to our dependent youth as well as youth who are wards. So either way they are able to get the services they need and yes it is incredibly challenging population to work with And there's not a lot of good data yet, or a lot of evidence-based programming available yet because it's such a new field.

But we will look out for any information we can pass along on the data that you requested. So turning to accomplishments over this last year in the CSEC program, we're continuing to make progress to address the issue through our CSEC steering committee. And the Steering Committee is led by Child Welfare but comprised of Probation, Public Health, Behavioral Wellness and the Juvenile Court as per our MOU to serve youth required by SB 855.

The current focus of the steering committee is to operationalize the first responder protocol. The steering committee in collaboration with the training subgroup of the Human Trafficking Task Force are spearheading efforts for the ID tool for law enforcement and as a result of this we've begun to see an increase in the CSEC related referrals to our child abuse hotline from law enforcement.

And if I can just Ask you to take a look at the bags that we have provided to you. We have included the ID tool, it's clipped to the outside of your bag right there. It's a little blue card right there. So just wanted you to kind of have that at your fingertips to take a look at. It is the first responder ID tool for law enforcement and I'm sorry, Supervisor Williams. It's clipped to the outside of the bag right? It should be with a little clip. There you go.

So the first responder ID tool for law enforcement was developed to help law enforcement when they're in the field and they're coming across potential victims of CSEC. It identifies what to look for as far as what kind of behaviors they might be seeing, what kind of red flags there are. It gives them a screening tool to look at, as well as numbers and next steps in terms of making referrals to our child abuse hotline. And it's small so that it can fit in a pocket or in their notebook while they're in the field. And again, it's got a really great response and we are seeing increased referrals from law enforcement as result of the outreach that all of our partners have been doing with them and the use of this tool.

And there's a second tool there, which was kind of replicated based off of this ID tool. And that's just for anybody in the community. It doesn't require the screening but it also alerts them to behaviors, red flags and gives them a number of resources there that they can call as well as our child abuse hotline for any interested community members or community partners so that they will also know what to do.

So our CSEC steering committee also oversees the allocation expenditures from the CSEC program and helps to determine what the identified areas of need are, such as specialized staff or services. And as a result this year we were able to develop a contract for a CSEC coordinator And as we were speaking about earlier, placements for this population can be extremely challenging.

They're very limited throughout the state but we are very fortunate in our county that through a lot of collaboration, we have a specialized CSEC program and that is the 4 Kids 2 Kids STRTP and that was opened in June of this last year with the support of the Junior League. We also have a program, Hope Refuge who are currently offering program for CSEC victims including workshops, vocational or educational training and wellness retreats. And they are in the process of applying to open a new STRTP again to serve the CSEC population specifically.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:10:21

Mr Chair?

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:10:23

Supervisor Wolk?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:10:24

Just before you get off this, I wanted to make a shout out to the Junior League for the safe house. I know that they had done an incredible financial campaign fundraiser to get this off the ground and it is off the ground and it's running and it's tremendous. And I just think this cooperation with groups like the junior league who want to be involved in the collaboration That your department has with those groups is making some of these needs a reality. So good for all of you, thank you. Thank

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:11:02

you. And I might do the same for Hope Refuge who I know is going through permitting process and please if there's any snags that you hear of please let their supervisor, Supervisor Hartman and myself know.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:11:20

And on that note, the California Department of Social Services released an RFP last month to address the general shortage of available placements and services to serve this population. And is calling for a specialized placement and services model that will offer a continuum of services including residential family home placement options, multidisciplinary team staffing as well as 24-7 support to victims at risk as well as their caregivers.

So many of our community partners are currently working on coming together and developing a proposal for this RFP in order to enhance the services and supports available in our county for this population. In order to increase awareness, our department hosted a prevention-focused event in Santa Maria back on November 7th. And this was a target audience of foster youth, junior and high school students as well as their parents and caregivers.

The event was hosted in collaboration with Fighting Back Santa Maria Valley, as well as the Center for Justice and Reconciliation from San Diego. The event was very well attended. We had over 250 people there sold out. And so because it was so popular and because of the positive response we've gotten, we are planning to do another event in the spring so that we can have more people attend.

All right, and so on to Continuum of Care Reform updates now. As you recall, Continuum of Care Reform draws together a series of existing and new reforms to child welfare services, probation, and mental health. And this is designed out of an understanding that when children have to live apart from their families they do better when they are cared for in committed nurturing family homes as opposed to congregate care.

Continuum of Care Reform seeks to further improve California's child welfare system outcomes through increased family engagement, limited use of congregate care as well as increasing capacity for home based family care settings. We continue to work to discuss impacts with stakeholders, staff and service providers. And are working in collaboration with local providers to develop service delivery models and continue to build capacity to be able to serve youth in family-based care settings.

We feel like we're making good progress on continuum of care reform, although there continue to be challenges. And we do await continued policy and funding decisions at the state level which may impact how we move forward with our continuum of care reform efforts.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:14:18

Could you elaborate a little bit more on that? What is it about the formula and what you and other departments are advocating for that sort of could permit us to do more or not permit us to do more.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:14:34

Supervisor Williams, I'll take that on since that's an ongoing topic at the director's level. The reality is the great progress has been made throughout the state by putting more work into developing resource families and finding appropriate placements for kids that are in group homes But the reality is that we all still have some kids in group homes that will then be transitioning as that title changes from Group Home to Short-Term Residential Treatment Program, as those programs become licensed under that heading.

And so the conversation that's happening between the directors and the state is this ongoing dialogue about there are still these kids that there are not homes for them in the community That, you know, regardless of what sort of wrap services or additional services that the needs are just too great. There's also the problem that the state is allowing these short-term residential treatment programs to refuse placement of children that they deem inappropriate for their placement and so we have the same problem moving forward with the short term residential treatment programs as we currently do with group homes which is we might have a child that has a multitude of very severe issues And we, you know struggle for weeks to find a placement to put them in.

Continuum of care reform and the overall goal of not having children in congregate care for anything longer than a six month placement at a short term residential treatment program to get them stabilized is a good vision. And there's been a lot of progress made in fulfilling that vision, but now it's getting down to the point of some of the nitty gritty details of the specifics related And I'm not really concerned about it because as we move forward in our conversations with the state, we're going to be showing them the specifics and we already are showing them specifics of the situations where the plan isn't working out exactly as the state had intended.

And so then navigating the road of okay, then what do we do in those situations? So and part of that also hopefully will address some funding issues related to that population as well. So it's an issue that none of the directors throughout the state didn't see coming three years ago, but the state has been so focused on achieving the vision that they've basically forestalled any conversation on that nitty-gritty until it's gotten down to the nitty gritty. And we're providing specific examples to the state to educate them about the challenges being faced with certain youth.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:17:20

So, as we referenced earlier CCR required implementation of child and family teams which are comprised of caring individuals committed to support children youth and their families to meet their needs and goals. And as of January 1st 2017 all children who enter child welfare systems require child and family team meetings at regular intervals One of the most fundamental principles of CCR is that child welfare services are most effective when delivered in the context of a child and youth centered family team.

Another guiding principle of CCR is that children shouldn't have to change placements to get the services they need. And as a result of that, there's been an increase in the array of services available to them in home-based family settings. More intensive specialty mental health services are now available including intensive care coordination, intensive home based services and therapeutic foster care.

Additionally, the use of the Child and Adolescent Strengths and Needs or CANS assessment tool began in September of 2018. The use of the CANS tool allows for monitoring of the child's progress and outcomes over time, and that helps to determine when to step down services and to transition to lower level placements. With the passage of CCR, a new rate structure for home-based family care was created.

The level of care assessment allows social workers to use a strength based approach to identifying the individual needs of children and determining what the appropriate rate to support their placement is. Phase 1 began in March 2018 and phase 2 was scheduled to begin in December 2018. I'm not sure if that's going to happen at this point, another one of those interesting twists with CCR a lot of delays In implementation dates, so if it doesn't start this month then probably most likely January and that will apply to all of our resource family homes in addition to the current rates which only now apply to foster family agency homes.

The second element of CCR is the limited use of congregate care so that children who cannot safely be placed in families receive short-term residential care and intensive therapeutic interventions to support their eventual transition to a family. Of the five group homes in our county, we have one, the four kids two kids which I referenced previously. Which has transitioned to STRTP status and the other four have applied for extensions with the state as they continue to work towards the transition We're working closely with our behavioral wellness partners to support the local providers as they transition from group homes to short-term therapeutic residential treatment programs, which requires a higher level of mental health certification and approval for MediCal billable services.

This strategy also aligns with the recommendations of the Child Welfare Safety Net Task Force for development of short term mental health placements within our county for children with greater mental health needs. So on this slide, we are seeing that the number of youth in group homes has very steadily declined. Back in 2015 we were at 45 youth and group homes and we are down to 15 as of September of 2018.

Currently that number is at 14 and we are hoping this month that we will have a couple more youth exiting. The remaining youth, we have extensions that we will be filing. We're permitted under CCR to have a fourth round of extensions beginning January through July as we continue to work on youth specific transition plans while the group homes work on their transitions to STRTPs.

The third element of CCR is to increase capacity for home-based family care. And we are continuing to see success with the Our County, Our Kids media campaign focused on resource family recruitment. Awareness and the need for resource families in our county has continued to increase and as such we've seen an increased number of homes as we saw back in the beginning.

We've also teamed with our local business community on the Inspire program, which provides a variety of discounts for resource families in order to support them in caring for children and youth. In June we conducted a fan out for the Inspire program to increase the number of businesses participating and we received interest from 40 businesses and increased our numbers to 65 participating businesses.

And in your little swag bags there, you have an Inspire program t-shirt as well as some other little tchotchkes and handouts in terms of press releases, Inspire brochures. And also information about our new Resource Family Villages Program. One of the primary barriers to serving potential families, resource families is child care. And so in July we began participating in the Child Care Bridge Program and that's a partnership with the Child Care Resource and Referral Program. And that provides vouchers for childcare as well as a childcare navigator so that families can get help finding a local childcare provider to help care for children placed with them.

We're also continuing to collaborate with our QPI partners on expanded retention and support programs, and also expanding the availability of trauma and wellness training for our resource families. So as a result of all of this work we have seen a 500% increase in the number of families that are coming in from 2015 to 2017. And in order to manage all of the approvals due to the increase in homes coming in, we are now utilizing the Binti online application and approval system.

Binti offers a three-pronged technology strategy, a mobile friendly online portal for families, public facing recruitment website connection and software for our social workers. The online portal removes physical paperwork barriers for families by allowing applicants, references or other adults to complete their forms on a computer tablet or mobile phone. The approvals module helps our staff approve families more quickly by tracking requirements such as background checks application forms and trainings and it also has robust reporting features to help us track and conduct process improvement activities And then the new placement module we will begin using in January helps find placement matches for children once the families are approved. And that looks at factors such as distance from the family to the school that the child attends, what the family's preferences are in terms of ages and genders of the children they're willing to accept, their ability to keep sibling groups together, and it includes automated notification features so that we can communicate With families whenever we have children who are available for placement.

So the technology offered by Venti is a great example of how we can simultaneously improve service and increase efficiency, and that is another one of the department's renewed 22 strategies. And with that, I'm happy to have any questions. Thank you very much for allowing us the opportunity to present to you today and I'm going to pop up our R-County R-Kids information for anybody who's interested so they can get the call in and website information.

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CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:25:59

Supervisor Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:26:01

Are there other public speakers?

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:26:03

There are no requests to speak.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:26:07

I don't have any questions. Um, I just I just want to comment um you know Supervisor Carbajal now congressman Carbajall and I Started that task force. I think it was in 2015 in 2016 they had the report that came to the board that was accepted by the board and You really? Picked up and identified the most important strategies. And that was on slide nine, the SIPP strategies.

Those were addressed by the task force as things that we needed to do in the county to improve our child welfare system. At that time they were very complimentary of everything that the department was doing. But nonetheless, they did have some questions and concerns. And I'm sure Mr. Nielsen remembers the request to have a czar, someone Oversee all of, to make sure that their recommendations were being implemented.

And our promise as a board to the task force was in fact to have the department come back every year, as you've noted in your staff report and report on some of these issues. I think it's so incredibly important that you have kept that promise to the community And just for me as a supervisor seeing this every year, I've talked about our human infrastructure. This is one of the most important things that we do and it's monitoring what you do and providing and making sure that you have the resources that you need to do your job and Supervisor Williams asked the question about the funding for that really important position. I also want to thank Supervisor Lavagnino who called out your department early on, on the way that you have maintained your financial stability when it comes to accounting principles and so forth.

So not only are you providing the services, but you are being held accountable and you're doing an exceptional job. I think that one of the things that I found really striking, and I remember this issue with a number of children in group homes was high in our county it was 45. And now to see that we're down to 14. I remember that it didn't seem insurmountable that we would really reduce the numbers as we have, but it was definitely a challenge and you folks have taken on that challenge. And I believe it is from the outreach that you have done and also this Binti program is incredible.

Something else that ensures that we have more resource families available. There's so many positives that I noted in your presentation today. You know I think that the coordination with other departments, the care coordination, the communication that you're having with the resource families. That was something else that was brought up in the task force not just a communication but also providing support and you've shown us today what you have done and what you plan to do in continuing to provide that support because children in these foster care Settings need that support and they get it from the foster care parents, and they need the support. So I'm so appreciative of the work that you're doing.

And really too... Oh, and the other thing that you talked about very early on was prevention and intervention To words that we hear all the time. But you kind of wonder what does that really mean? And I think there are so many community groups, be it com, preschools, our educational system. There's so many, I can't think of everyone who is talking about prevention and intervention for children, the risk factors.

Catching these kids early on and also working with the parents parental education So that they know what to do And to become or remain really good parents so The numbers of The average number of open cases I think is another significant milestone, again perhaps because of the prevention and intervention from 673 in 2015 to 527 in 2017. That's remarkable. It's 527 cases too many, but the numbers are going down and I think it's because it is our county, our kids we care about them.

I love that you're continuing to work and continue to be innovative to get these numbers down and I just want to congratulate you I hope that this story, this discussion continues every year because it's important that we follow through on where we are as a county and to provide the resources where we need to. So thank you for all of your work. Thank you to all the people who are back in the offices out in the streets out in the homes doing this incredible work for our community and our kids. Thank you.

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CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:32:02

Supervisor Harbin.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.842:32:04

Thank you, it has to be noted that today is Supervisor Wolf's last Santa Maria meeting and I'm so glad that it happened on a high note on an issue you've invested so much of your time in and I am going to miss your institutional memory. And that goes, I have three points I'd like to make on the first part of your presentation and one on the final part. And on slide 11 as Supervisor Wolf mentioned there's a lot of information. I'm just wondering if in the future rather than having just the last year and the next year, if this could be on a trend so we could see what happens over time?

Again, what the evolution is if it's that would just give a better sense since we won't have Supervisor Wolf here to tell us. The other thing is as both Supervisor Wolf and Williams have mentioned the permanency in family plate finding more families and keeping children there is certainly a high priority I think in the past, I've been involved in this and as a potential resource family you can feel like you're part of the regulated and people come in and there is dog food in the pantry. And I think a different attitude that's supportive and helpful and getting the community businesses and online interaction is extremely valuable and just changes the attitude in a way that you want to The other thing that I've always been really interested in is and am so glad to see your focus on social workers and permanency there.

There is no more difficult job that I can think of than having to take children in the middle of the night out of a difficult situation with their families and the trauma, the secondary trauma. So I think keeping those social workers connected to those children and not having a lot of turnover is absolutely key. I've talked to Daniel about this but For traumatized children every time they have a new social worker, they've got to relive their story. And that isn't healthy.

So the more we can keep stable social workers the better and so I'd like if in future you can have some measure of that and round that out tell us what more we can do to support these people because As Supervisor Wolf said so eloquently they are really on the front lines and it's hard, hard work. So those are my thoughts about the first. The other just has to do with sexual trafficking and I know foster children are particularly vulnerable and you know somebody older who is trying to show affection But what do we know about the trafficked children in our county? I thought a lot might be undocumented immigrants being brought into the country for that purpose. Do we have any relative information about how many children and where they're coming from

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:35:41

Supervisor Hartman through the chair. We have, I do have some stats on the victims. I don't know in terms of how many are brought in but my sense is that's not a great number of them. We had four newly identified victims in fiscal year 17-18 which brings us to a total of 11 open child welfare cases we have currently with confirmed victims of CSEC We've received, let's see 2017 we received 46 calls to our hotline about CSEC victims.

And at halfway through the year we had already received 35 this year I think we are close to 60 at this point so we have seen an increase and again that we think that is partially due to the first responder training for law enforcement

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:36:39

Supervisor Labunina.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.882:36:42

Thank you Mr. Chair, well this is probably the first time in eight years that I can say I totally 100% agree with Supervisor Wolf and her entire maybe but I know, I remember going through that whole situation with when we had the task force set up and how contentious it was. And this issue really can bring out a lot of emotion because like you said there's probably nothing we do that's more important and has a greater impact but Just, you know I think this report even though it's lengthy is also could be a template for what I like to see in a presentation of all the measurables were there. Everything that we talked about that's been a priority for the community that we've heard from and from this board is in the presentation with measurable statistics and when we don't meet those thresholds we have a corrective action Put into place of how do we meet that so that next year?

We're not reporting the same failure So a lot of great news. It's always good when you see The majority of items in the green as well, but like you said every case is one too many that we really need The other thing I think that I felt was We look at these cases to have a child needing foster care and we think about the family or the person in the placement But I also don't want us to forget that there's a social worker that has to go into that home and take a child out of the bad situation.

And, I think we've all done the drive alongs and I was with a social worker that had to go into a home that The person had multiple children already removed from that home and she didn't even hesitate just walking up And just confronting that individual and wanting to do a well baby check where I could feel the tension there of how scary that would be. I was nervous, and she just blazed right in and did her job. So big shout out to those folks as well so thank you very much.

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CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:39:14

I have a question and maybe some comments afterwards. The reduction in number of cases is welcome, the average number in foster care is also down dramatically. Is that because of surge of adoptions or Family reunifications or give me just a flavor of down in two years from 433 to 361. That's significant.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:39:49

Yes, Supervisor Williams. A couple reasons as we mentioned the prevention efforts so we have our differential response program which we've had for several years now but it's been very successful at helping intervene with families before they enter child welfare. And we also have our Voluntary Family Preservation Program. And that tends to be about 50 to 60 cases where we're working with families who are at very high risk for entering, having their children enter foster care. But that's also been very successful in keeping children out and being able to work with family on a voluntary basis and reducing risk and safety to those youths. And we also continue to have a high number of exits to permanency. We've had an increase as we saw in our reunification, so we have more children who are reunifying and at the same time we continue to have about 90 to 100 children every year who find permanency in the form of adoption.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:40:49

So maybe the summary is an increase in family reunifications and then a steady level of adoptions combined with some prevention of fewer individuals entering the system.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:41:05

Yes, I think by keeping them out in the front end and then moving them out the back end we keep that number who are in care lower. And keeping the number in care as those who really need to be there for their safety and protection.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:41:17

And how are we doing in terms of resource parent recruitment? Are we at a steady number of resource parents or have we increased or decreased, particularly in the South County. I mean last year this report weighed Like a rock on my thoughts, because there was a conspicuous lack of resource parents. Some zip codes in my district where there was not even a single resource parent and just kind of want to know a flavor of our situation on that.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:41:52

Yes Supervisor Williams, our recruitment efforts have been very good. We had 60 new families recruited in 2017 and that was up from 35 in 2016 so again we've had a 500% increase from 2015 to 2017 so I mean it's we've really had really good results with our recruitment. I can't speak specifically to the zip code.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:42:20

Just tell me, are some of those in the South County? Yes. Are we still really behind?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:42:26

Some of them are in South County. I think we do tend to have more from North County but we're applying our recruitment efforts countywide and we're seeing results south mid-North County for getting families coming out from everywhere.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:42:40

That's great. Maybe later you can give me the zip code answer.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:42:44

Sure. I'll be happy to do that.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:42:48

Any other comments, questions? Can I get a motion to receive and file.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:42:54

So moved.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:42:55

There is a second. Motion in the second. All those in favor please say aye. Aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:43:02

Thank you for your time.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:43:03

Thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:43:03

very much. Very much.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:43:06

So I was driving this train real fast we're going to do a five minute bio break and then take our third item

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GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction2:46:36

You. You. You're on camera.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:49:30

We'll reconvene for item 3.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction2:49:34

Chair Williams, members of the board can we first get a motion to withdraw item D2?

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:49:42

This is a motion to withdraw and reschedule item

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:49:47

2.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:49:49

Second. A motion and second all those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Thank you.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction2:49:57

And item 3. From the County Executive Office this is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an amendment to chapter 50 of the county code licensing of cannabis operations to make it effective in the coastal zone.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:50:12

Chair Williams, members of the board, Dennis Pisanich from the County Executive Office. This is a follow-up item to help Chapter 50 which is the cannabis business licensing ordinance that you adopted back in the spring and became effective in June to become effective in the coastal zone after 30 days from the adoption hopefully at the next meeting. Without this action today, the cannabis business licensing requirements would not take effect in the coastal zone. And so if we can go to the slide, the recommended ordinance change or amendment is shown here as a strikethrough section which in the original version that your board adopted in the spring Had that the portion of the ordinance was effective in the coastal zone upon the certification by the Coastal Commission pursuant to the public resource code.

The Coastal Commission, while considering our both our coastal zoning ordinance as well as the business licensing ordinance Chose not to take up the cannabis business licenses and instead pulled the pertinent parts over into the coastal zoning ordinance. And then your board was given those suggested modifications, and you approved those in October and sent those back to the Coastal Commission. So this amendment that we're proposing today would simply allow the business license ordinance to take effect in the coastal zone 30 days after your adoption.

If we can go to the recommended actions. And then I'm happy to answer any questions just to simply read the title, set the hearing for the administrative agenda for next week. To consider options and then make the CEQA determinations that you see listed in the board letter and on the screen. With that, I'm happy to answer any questions.

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CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:52:15

Supervisor Lavenino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.882:52:17

Thank you Mr. Chair. Dennis, from what I remember for retail we had to wait for approval from Mr. Hagan that we had access to banking and also the other thing out there was to make sure that we had Coastal Commission approval on the coastal zone. So what is the timeline now for retail?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:52:45

Chair Williams, Supervisor Lavagnino. The plan was to begin public noticing of the process to determine their pre-eligibility, their prequalification for eligibility that we would do approximately 45 days of noticing starting around January 1st, January 2nd. Kind of get clear of the holiday season so nobody could say they didn't know. And then that was, that 45 day noticing period would be followed by a 60 day pre-qualification application period. So we would be in approximately mid April before we would have, we would close that pre-application period and then begin the random selection process.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.882:53:36

And will that be coming back to us anytime soon or is that just you already have direction on what needs to be done there?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:53:45

Chair Williams, Supervisor Lavagnino the Chapter 50 ordinance really lays out very completely what that process was and with your approval of that at the time we do have the direction to move forward and the structure to move forward with that. And you're okay with that at the present time still? Supervisor Lavineto and Chair Williams, members of the board.

I was proceeding with that just as the direction. I would say there has been some general comments about whether or not that was the best structure. Frankly I could say that about a lot of different sections of Chapter 50 and perhaps even Chapter 35 in the Coastal Zoning Ordinance. As we begin to live these things out, I think we always knew there were some other things that might need some adjustments and updates but leave that to your board's direction. All right thanks.

Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.842:54:52

Thank you Mr. Buzanich for giving me that opening I think indeed we are as people are applying for permits finding that there are some unintended consequences and I'm just wondering whether sooner rather than later we can Look at this ordinance. I'm afraid that as people go through the permit process, they will get entitlements and rights and things and then we won't be able to deal very effectively with it I think we may need some tweaks sooner rather than later, especially because we haven't had an opportunity to see how the cannabis ordinance interacts with the hoop ordinance and they are indeed related. So I put that out there.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:55:43

I also feel that, I'd love to have this fleshed out a little bit. To understand what the path is on retail and to take care of some of the nuisance questions. I mean, I think it's infecting the discussions on hoops and from my perspective it's more about marijuana than it is about hoops. And so maybe what we need Obviously you have adequate enforcement, which there's been some great signs recently that there is adequate enforcement.

But then understand whether some of the nuisance issues would be just taken care of with better enforcement or whether ordinance changes would be necessary.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.882:56:35

Mr. Chair, looking out I don't see any, believe it or not, I don't see any cannabis issues on the long-term agenda which is surprising and I'm just wondering how if you know hearing concerns if there's a...I see time on February 5th and February 12 going out if you'd be prepared at that time to come back with Or I think what we need to do first though is maybe in the February 5th meeting or somewhere around there.

Kind of get direction, this is probably not the time to do it on this item but somehow gets you direction on. We need to talk about the entire ordinance and just kind of talk about enforcement issues that loopholes that we see and things like that so I'm just wondering when If we need to schedule that now or just give you direction to prepare something and let us know when you could bring it back.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:57:33

Supervisors, why don't you just give us time to look at the long range and figure out the best time to bring that back given all the discussion today in the previous discussions you've had?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:57:42

Chair and Supervisors, it's not on the long range yet but in mid-February would be our next quarterly update that we have scheduled. It just hasn't quite made the long range calendar and that would be in the form of compliance enforcement and taxation report similar to what I did in October. Supervisor Wolk?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:58:02

Thank you Mr. Chair, while we're talking about future issues I just want to mention some concerns about more Mesa area and permitting and things that are happening before permits are being issued So I think, and my office has been in touch with P&D. And there's a lot of concerns about activities going on before. It's this timeline between state permits and when county issues their permit. So I just want to put this out there because you're going to be talking about it next year, but I think that would be important as well. How did what we do before with the state coordinate with our own permitting?

Thank you Mr. Chair.

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CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:59:01

I think you've heard some loose direction and know what to do as soon as you can. And as soon as you can get the adequate support from other departments to also prepare something for us. Is there a motion on this item? And are you through with your presentation? There

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ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.882:59:27

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CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:59:27

no requests to

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.882:59:28

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CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction2:59:28

actions to be moved. There is a motion. Second. There is a second. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries and we will go to closed session Mr. Gazzana you want to give us a preview

CommentDiana EstorgaProposed · by introduction2:59:48

Chair and Supervisors, today in closed session the board has agendized to consider two matters. The first an active litigation case, Zarza versus Crable et al at Los Angeles Superior Court. And the second is consideration of public employee appointment for fire chief. Our estimate is about one hour for closed session.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction3:00:16

We will reconvene shortly before 3 for a report from closed session, and then we will at three o'clock hold the ICE hearing. Okay. ♪

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CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction6:28:31

Oh, We'll reconvene for a report from closed session. Mr. Gazzani?

CommentDiana EstorgaProposed · by introduction6:29:46

Chair and supervisors, today in closed session the board considered two matters. One, a case of existing litigation, Zarza versus Crable et al., and the second was it a public employee appointment. Fire Chief there are no reportable actions.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction6:30:00

Great Now we will have item four, which is the Annual Truth Act Report and Community Forum. Presenting will be Sheriff Bill Brown. Please read it Mr. Brown.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction6:30:19

Chair Williams, members of the board. Item number 4 today is from the sheriff. It's a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the annual truth act report and community forum.

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:30:30

Good afternoon Chair, members of the Board and members of the public. I'm Sheriff Bill Brown and I'm here today to present to you a report that is required under some new legislation. This is the Truth Act Forum for 2017 to review the statistics on what happened in 2017. The requirement for this hearing comes from section 7283.1D of the government code that says, the beginning in January 1st of 2018, the local governing body of any county city or city and county in which a local law enforcement agency has provided ICE access to an individual during the last year shall hold at least one community forum During the following year, that is open to the public in an accessible location and with at least 30 days notice to provide information to the public about ICE's access to individuals and receive and consider public comment.

As part of this forum, the local law enforcement agency may provide the governing body with data it maintains regarding the number and demographic characteristics of individuals to whom the agency has provided ICE access, the date ICE access was provided, and whether the ICE access was provided through a hold, transfer or notification request or through other means.

Data may be provided in the form of statistics or if statistics are not maintained individual records provided that personally identifiable information shall be redacted. Let me start off by giving you and the members of the public a little synopsis of three pieces of California legislation. That impact the ability of local law enforcement to interact with, communicate with and cooperate with our federal law enforcement partners who are engaged in the enforcement of immigration law.

This is a convoluted area of the law these three pieces of legislation were passed separately and the latter of them impacts one of the previous ones so let me just give you a quick summary of the three pieces of legislation The first is the Trust Act. This is a piece of legislation that was signed on October 5th, 2013 as AB4 which went into effect on January 1st, 2014. It was codified as Government Code sections 7282 and 7282.5. The Trust Act prevents local law enforcement from detaining non-citizens pursuant to an immigration hold or detainer beyond the time that they would otherwise be released from criminal custody.

There is also a separate appellate court decision which affects California, which essentially says the same thing. The second piece of legislation is the Truth Act. This was Signed by Governor Brown into law on September 28, 2016. It went into effect on January the 1st of 2017. And it is the legislation which covers the report that we're covering today. The Truth Act, AB 2792 requires law enforcement to provide information to undocumented immigrants that Immigration and Customs Enforcement personnel wish to speak to while they are in local custody.

It also requires that local law enforcement disclose ICE access to undocumented persons who are in local custody in four different ways. Number one, the Truth Act requires a local law enforcement agency prior to an interview between ICE and an individual who's in custody to provide a written consent form that explains the purpose of the interview, that the interview is voluntary, and that the individual may decline the interview.

The bill requires the form to be translated into multiple languages. Number two, the Truth Act requires that if a local law enforcement agency provides ICE with notification of an individual's release date and time then the local law enforcement agency must also provide the same notification to the individual and their attorney or permitted designee. And the inmate gets a copy of a form to that effect.

Number three, the Truth Act requires that a local legislative body in this case yourselves hold a community forum annually if local law enforcement allows ICE access to any individual. And lastly number four the bill ensures that records related to ice access are subject to the Public Records Act. The third and final piece of legislation is the California Values Act, SB 54 which amended government code sections 7282 and 7282.5 and added restrictions related to interactions with ICE.

The act curtails the use of state and local resources from engaging in immigration enforcement effective in 2018 subject to a number of exemptions. It is important to remember that the Values Act was not in effect during 2017, the time that we are going to be reporting to you at today's hearing. As far as our local policy with respect to the Truth Act, the policy is such that it very clearly indicates that the Santa Barbara Sheriff's Office does not conduct any immigration enforcement directly.

The immigration law is the purview of the federal government and they are responsible for its enforcement. The Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office does cooperate with ICE officials to the extent permitted by law, with respect to those people who are in our custody. Our agency policy is a comprehensive document that directs the actions of custody deputies and records personnel as it relates to compliance with the Truth Act and also the Values Act.

Our policy outlines what forms must be provided to inmates, under what circumstances and how ICE interviews are to be conducted and how ICE access requests are to be handled under the law. Next slide is ICE access information for 2017. Historically the Sheriff's Office has not Maintained public records on aggregate ice access data. This is something that's relatively new to us and all data that's provided herein resulted from manual staff searches on individual booking packets In 2018, when the Values Act became law it changed certain aspects of the Truth Act.

And in 2018 the jail also upgraded its jail management system, its computerized record keeping system with respect to jail records which should help us improve data collection in the future. So what access did ICE have to Santa Barbara County jail inmates in 2017? An ICE access means access to an inmate by ICE for the purposes of civil immigration enforcement, including when an individual is stopped with or without their consent, arrested, detained, or otherwise held under control of the local law enforcement agency. Including any one of the following.

One responding to an ICE hold notification or transfer request Number two, providing notification to ICE in advance of the public that an individual is being or will be released at a certain date and time through data sharing or otherwise. Number three, providing ICE non-publicly available information regarding release dates, home addresses, or work addresses whether through computer databases, jail logs, or otherwise.

Number four, allowing ICE to interview an individual in the jail. And number five, providing information regarding dates and times of probation or parole check-ins. So the data for 2017, as found in this extensive hand search that was conducted show. That for that year we released a total of 15,241 inmates from custody in the county jail. Of those 15,241 ICE requested to be notified of the release of 526 of them.

And they ultimately came and picked up 351 of them. That's 2.3% of the total number of inmates who were released from our jail. I

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed6:39:42

have a question.

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:39:43

It is important to note that this statistic. Sheriff Supervisor Wolf has a question.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed6:39:50

Sheriff, out of the 15,000 how does ICE know who to make a request of? How do they have information?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:40:04

So everyone that's booked into our county jail is fingerprinted on an electronic fingerprint system. that goes to the federal government and is checked against the federal government's database, the criminal database. ICE has access to that information so everyone whose fingerprints are taken in the Santa Barbara County Jail goes to the federal government. ICE has access to it and they have people that they are looking for primarily people who would have been Coming to this country, been previously deported but they've had their fingerprints taken and now they've come back in. They have access to that information. They also have criminal information for people who have committed crimes that they are involved in the investigation of as well or that were committed locally and they were brought in and had some investigative Interaction with the local agency and had it as well.

So it's it's basically all going through that fingerprint database

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed6:41:01

and then they Outside of the jail make the determination of 351 or do they come into the jail? And is that where that whole That whole piece of consent comes in

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:41:15

in 2017 the The consent forms and all that really was not heavily used. That is something the 351 number is really probably more of an artifact of resources available human resources for ice they, they just did not always come, they will ask for the release date. But because of the fact that their staffing is like ours limited, they don't have the ability to come necessarily pick everybody up. Or they may have done an interview in the jail and determined that someone was not somebody that they were interested in. They were interested more in someone who had committed serious criminal offense rather than a minor offense that they might have been in. And again as you look at this data remember under a different system than what we're currently required to do.

And as you'll see in a second, you'll see that there's been a significant decrease in the number of notifications. So, Sheriff

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction6:42:16

while you're taking questions we got a couple other supervisors. Thank you I was going to let you

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.846:42:21

finish but my question also builds on what Supervisor Wolf said that is how does ICE get information about people in the jail and you said one way they do it is through fingerprinting when they're booked but don't they also have access to information through a database that we keep about release dates?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:42:42

They do now, they didn't in 2017. So we instituted a new jail records management system in 2018 on January the 1st of 2018 with nothing to do with this. We had a new jail system that has feature called Who's in Jail that allows people to access our database from the internet and determine if someone is in jail. And ICE, if they're looking for a specific person can plug a name in just as any member of the public can and determine if that person is in our jail. And if they have been convicted of a crime and there is a release date that has been set, that release date is available to them and to the public as well.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction6:43:26

But

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:43:26

again that wasn't in effect back in 2017. And

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed6:43:30

one more Supervisor Adams. Can you tell me of that 15,241 number can you tell me how many of those are illegal aliens?

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CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:43:40

We, Supervisor Adam we really can't right now I can only give you some historical data because we no longer. We used to track that or try to track that but we no longer do that and haven't for a number of years as the law started to change and we didn't Typically what we would do in the old days is that we would provide to ICE a list of anyone who was in our jail, who was foreign born. They could be a citizen or non-citizen or legal resident but if they had a foreign birth location then I would typically Come into our jail. They had a large presence in our jail and they would go and interview inmates and determine through their interview process if that person was citizen, a legal resident or if they had come into the country illegally and then they would if they determined they were going to place a hold in the old days before 2000 and 14 before that the first piece of legislation they would actually put a hold on it could be honored.

Now, I really although they're allowed to come into our jail and we'll we would certainly allow them to come into the jail because of all these restrictions, the reality is that they no longer really come into the jail and They, as a result of that have adjusted their enforcement action. Instead of relying primarily on taking inmates from the county jail they now have started to conduct field operations where they actually gain information on their own through criminal investigative processes and go after people who are in the community in the field And in the process, also sometimes pick up people who are not.

They may be after someone who's a criminal offender but if that person has other people with him and they determine that those people are undocumented aliens then oftentimes they will be arrested as well.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed6:45:37

So instead of just being able to pick them up in the jail, then what this policy has resulted in is ice crawling all over town looking everywhere just like people are afraid that they'll do.

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:45:53

Well I don't know if I'd say crawl all over town but they certainly have significantly increased their field operations and done that, yes. It's absolutely been a change in their tactics.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed6:46:06

My point is the results of the policy are exactly what people were fearing would happen

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:46:13

Certainly exactly what we were, we in the Sheriff's Association were saying would happen if this, if the latter law of the Values Act was passed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed6:46:21

Okay one final question for now. Do you have any idea which are of your average daily population how many of them are illegal?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:46:30

Again, I can't tell you that because we don't track that data anymore. I can tell you that early on in my tenure when we did track it for about the first six years or so that I was here as sheriff typically it would be anywhere between 6 and 12 percent of our population.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed6:46:45

Okay thank you.

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:46:48

All right so I just want to leave you with A comparative number to show you to this, and that is what's happening this year in 2018. And again the Values Act became law January 1st of 2018 significantly changed the methodology Of the interaction between locals and ICE agents. And as I said, ICE has changed their operational tactics quite a bit. And as a result of that, I can only give you year to date numbers but as of the end of November 30th so 11 months out of the 12 for the current year we have released 11,551 inmates and to date ICE has requested release date information on 390 of those inmates, and they have actually picked up 74 of those inmates. So there's been a marked decline in the number of inmates that have been picked up by ICE authorities as a result of that.

I wanted to give you some actual examples of current charges and qualifying prior convictions that people have been released on. And this is just a snapshot that shows you some of our Frequent flyers, if you will. People who have been in our jail numerous times and have committed serious offenses. And as you can see there's one individual there that has been in our custody 52 different times. Several others who have been in double digits and the qualifying convictions on these particular inmates cover a range of crimes from domestic violence, criminal threats, driving under the influence causing injury or death Burglary, assault with a deadly weapon, threatening a witness, corporal injury to a child, felony evading arrest.

Lewd acts with children under 14 using force or fear, failure to register as a sex offender, narcotic sales and conspiracy. And it's important to remember that under the current law we would still be making those notifications in the large majority of these people. They didn't have the requirement of the qualifying prior conviction as the current law is set. So that's obviously resulted in a significant decline in the number of people who we notify ICE about their release date.

I just want to wrap up and just say that editorialize a little bit here. And that is that, you know we in the sheriff's office understand that this issue is a very emotive one. It is one that people have very strong feelings on both sides as to whether or whether not there should be a level of cooperation between local law enforcement and ICE. And I think it's like everything else in life there has to be balance and we have to look to achieve the balance that is required to recognize and understand that most immigrants who are in our county.

I'm in our community by people who are illegal aliens. And the reality is that there should be a common desire for everyone in the community to see people who commit such crimes or who are members of gangs or who are predisposed to violence or serious crime, to be removed from our community so that they won't continue to prey on and victimize people who are here.

And we have had, as I say a number of serious crimes including a number of murders that have taken place. And while we don't want to paint everyone with the same brush, we also don't want to give the appearance or have people to have an understanding that think There's no threat to our community. There really is and unfortunately the threat that comes typically from people who ICE comes and picks up, typically the threat is more towards the immigrant community than the community at large. The crimes that are committed typically are committed against members of the immigrant community.

So that concludes my report be happy to answer any questions. Be happy to come back and answer your questions later if you have them after the public comment

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CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction6:51:30

We'll take one more round of questions before public comment. Speakers are advised that the public comment is two minutes long and can come up to the podium and folks will we will have the clerk call out two names ahead of time so that persons who whose next in line might be able to get ready beyond deck, so to speak, so that we can do this with some alacrity. Mr. Adam.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed6:52:01

I'm just wondering what are some serious crimes committed where your office does not cooperate with ICE? What level does it have to

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:52:13

rise to? Basically there are about 800 different specific crimes that are mentioned out of about 2,500 plus or so that are in the Penal Code and other California codes that relate to criminal conduct. And so there are a lot that are covered but there are a lot that aren't covered. So for example one of One of the problems that we had in the Sheriff's Association and why we oppose the passage of SB 54, for example is in drunk driving. Drunk driving does not become a qualifying charge in and of itself to contact ICE with unless a person has been convicted four times.

And we could argue if once is too short, but I think that if someone's been convicted two or three times of drunk driving they represent a threat to the community. We have dozens of people who are killed, hundreds of people who are killed, thousands of people are killed across the state each year by drunk drivers or driving under the influence. So I think that's an example. There are other examples to misdemeanor crimes for the most part do not qualify and these could include certain types of domestic violence, certain types of child abuse they could they can include animal cruelty.

There's just a host of different crimes that are not covered and it's typically, there are some exceptions to this but for the most part it's required that there be a conviction for that crime. So if someone is arrested for a felony crime no matter how serious Sometimes they bail out of jail and our system may change here shortly, but that's the current system the way it is.

And there's only a handful, there's only a few exceptions that allow notification during when someone is bailing out of jail for example. So someone could bail out of jail before they go before the court and we would not be legally allowed to contact ICE.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed6:54:22

Okay, if the illegal alien Victor Martinez who killed Marilyn Ferris was arrested before her murder would you have honored the ICE detainer?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:54:35

In that case, we actually did get a notification from ICE. But ICE was not... It was at a point where there was a policy issue that they were just not responding on most misdemeanor contacts and so as a result in that particular case there was no notification and no response from ICE but to give you an idea of The gravity of all this, we know that we've had a series of very terrible murders that have taken place here in Santa Maria.

And I can tell you, I can't tell you a lot about that right now because it's pending trial. But I can tell you that a total of 12 people have been indicted for 10 murders that took place here in Santa Maria and for 14 charges of conspiracy to commit murders so 24 actual victims. And of those 12 people all of them were undocumented And all of them, none of them would have qualified under the current law for us to notify ICE for any criminal charges that they had. In other words some of them had some criminal charges but there were misdemeanor charges that didn't meet the threshold for us to be able to notify them under the law. So you know it's those kinds of things that are troubling in terms of our ability to communicate with the ICE agents about.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed6:56:11

I agree.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.886:56:14

Supervisor Lavinino. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Well you kind of touched on just a little bit of it and I know it's not law yet but I'm just interested in how the new bail reform kind of would... The way I understood it was it was going to go to the court system to make a determination whether somebody was held or not. Would that then take the reporting out of your hands into the court system? Or how has that been presented?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:56:42

I actually and still remain if the law goes into effect, which is a question mark now because there are apparently enough signatures to get a stay on it for awhile and maybe get another referendum. But I'm actually of the opinion that under the new system if it's done the right way we actually would have more people that would be kept in jail And couldn't bail out that are the kinds of people that I'm most concerned about. And that we would have under the current law, the ability to notify ICE about their release dates whether they're pre or post conviction. So I'm actually somebody that thinks that the new law is something that could be better situation for us than what we have now.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction6:57:30

Go to public comment.

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated6:57:31

All right, thank you.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction6:57:35

Chair Williams and members of the board. We have 20 requests to speak on this matter, and we're going to start in Santa Barbara with Jonathan Abboud to be followed by Julia Hamilton and then Michael Lynch.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed6:57:53

Hello members of the board, thank you for having this forum today. I'm here to represent a letter of Isla Vista leaders who weren't able to make it due to its finals week so I'll just read two of our paragraphs and I'll note that there's over 40 signatories of local elected officials, Associated Students executives and students who are just involved and concerned And so what we are saying is, we the undersigned demand that the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department cease and desist the publication of release dates. Of all people within the sheriff's custody in a cruel attempt to undermine the California Values Act, the sheriff's office has only perpetuated the historic abuse of due process and racial profiling. Isla Vista is directly policed by the sheriffs and has a significant population of undocumented residents both students and families alike.

We believe it's an impediment to public safety and trust with law enforcement to continue with the status quo. Thank you. I can leave a letter for, thank you.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction6:58:57

Next speaker is Julia Hamilton to be followed by Michael Lynch and then Alejandra Melgoza.

CommentReverend Julia HamiltonProposedself-stated6:59:05

Good afternoon, thank you for providing this opportunity for transparency and public comment. We appreciate the diligence that you're taking in considering this very important issue. I'm here on behalf of CLU, Clergy and Lady United for Economic Justice. I am Reverend Julia Hamilton. And we too are concerned about the release of the personal information from people who are being released from jail.

We're concerned that it increases the possibility of mistaken identities, we've seen cases around the nation where people with the same name have been And when you release just a list of names it really increases the possibility that people will be harmed by this. We're also concerned that this release of personal information, it creates a possibility that employers you haven't been convicted of anything but if your name goes up that you're getting released that you'll be profiled either profiled as a criminal when you haven't been convicted of something, profiled by your name And also just by your other relationships in the community. We're here because we think that it is important that everyone be treated with dignity, that everyone be treated to the same process.

We have laws in place and when somebody commits a crime, we have laws that should be applied fairly across the board no matter your immigration status and that's what we hope to see so thank you for being here to honor the worth and dignity of all people who are residents of our community Increase trust.

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GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:00:46

Our next speaker is Michael Lynch to be followed by Alejandra Melgoza and Gabriel Lucatero.

GuestMichael LynchSheriffProposedself-stated7:00:55

Good afternoon, thank you for the opportunity to speak. My name is Michael Lynch I do not represent anybody other than myself. I wanted to thank first I want to thank Sheriff Brown. Thank you very much for speaking With some degree of eloquence about our neighbors being our neighbors and not being different from us. I appreciated the way you addressed who the people are, I appreciated how you explained who the people are that you're talking about, that they are our community.

My concern is that picking up people who are not documented should not be a way of enforcing the laws in our community. I think we have a very robust system of criminal control, for lack of a better term. We have laws, we have all sorts of ways of controlling crime that the Sheriff's Office very well acts on. And I hope that we will continue to do that and not target any individuals as, oh but those individuals can be gotten rid of by calling in ICE. And that's what I'm concerned about. That's what we seem to be doing.

So my request is to not post the release dates of people that are in custody And to not make that information public for any of us. If I'm arrested, I don't want my name being out there either. I think it's a matter of personal privacy. Thank you.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:02:56

Alejandro Melgoza to be followed by Gabriel Lucatero and then Frank Rodriguez

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CommentAlejandra MelgozaProposedself-stated7:03:03

Good afternoon. My name is Alejandra Melgoza, I'm a community organizer with CAUSE. We encourage our local government to not take part in the deportation machine that our federal government has created so effortlessly. We want our local government to recognize the humanity in our communities Undocumented people are no less human and no more criminal than someone of citizen status. We believe our community should be a place where families and members of our community feel safe, welcomed, and confident of their futures ahead. We ask for the sheriff to stop posting the release dates of all people in the sheriff's custody. Thank you.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:03:41

Gabriel Lucatero to be followed by Frank Rodriguez and then Zoila Cabrera.

CommentGabrielProposedself-stated7:03:51

Hello, my name is Gabriel. I'm a member of the community. I just want to say that I remember a time when the government used to treat people with dignity even though white people would think that I mean immigrants. Even though the government didn't quite agree with the way we got here but they know because white men also got here in a certain way that was not appropriate long time ago.

So what I'm asking for is dignity. Due process. And also I think the sheriff works for the community, not for us so work for us. Work with us.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:04:29

Thank you. Frank Rodriguez to be followed by Zoella Cabrera and then Gina Whitaker back here in Santa Maria.

CommentOlga CabreraProposedself-stated7:04:51

Good

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed7:04:51

afternoon.

CommentOlga CabreraProposedself-stated7:04:52

My name is Olga Cabrera. I'm here to support the act of truth, supporting my community. When I say my community we are working families. Each day we wake up And if ICE is going to come and knock on our doors, no no we don't want that. What we want or what we're requesting is that ICE be out of this county and all of the counties Because within these families, which are separated by ICE, have been families with military men on them.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed7:05:48

Latin families. ICE has separated us from our children

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CommentOlga CabreraProposedself-stated7:05:58

and we don't want that the local police and the sheriffs act as agents of immigration. Thank you.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:06:15

Frank Rodriguez and then back here for Gina Whitaker in Santa Maria.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed7:06:24

Hello, thank you Chair, Supervisors. And thank you to the Sheriff for giving a presentation and really emphasizing that these new laws especially the California Values Act that went into effect this year is going to be protecting our community members and not allowing for the separation of families. But I want to thank also the sheriff because he has been meeting with the Central Coast Immigrant Rights Coalition over the last few years What is going on within the county jail in terms of their relationship with federal law enforcement being Immigration Customs Enforcement.

However, we know we've had some disagreements. The big one is we don't agree with the vilification of our immigrant community and especially putting up a list that shows the criminals and how bad they are is not really supporting and giving a good light to something that we feel that we really need to humanize. And for that reason, we really are against the release of public release states of people who are housed within the county jail. Because it came out right after the California Values Act went into effect and it's something that's happening in other counties as well. So we see it as a trend among sheriff departments to undermine SB 54, the California Values Act.

And especially the comment that was made in terms of getting somebody, before they get their time in front of a judge. That's really taking away the due process from our immigrant community. Someone who was born here goes through the same process that anybody else does and comes into our society with the attempt to be a better person throughout this whole process. We feel that the immigrant community, everybody has that opportunity to be members of our community.

And like comments have been made before we don't want the extra action of you have to deport them to enforce the law. We feel that can be done through our legal system we have here and we wanna make sure that we humanize not vilify our immigrant community thank you

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GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:08:27

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CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction7:08:33

just want to note and I have been inspired many times by the testimony of Soyla and at least a couple times by Frank's but our rules do not provide for clapping. And the reason we don't do that is because we also don't provide for booing or other things So if you really like what someone says, you can express yourself. But the way you could do it is nonverbal like you couldn't go like that okay? So please proceed

CommentGina WhitakerProposedself-stated7:09:06

Thank you. My name is Gina Whitaker and I'm from Arroyo Grande, but I'm here to support our immigrant communities because we are very close in geography this morning. I was at San Luis Obispo County Truth Act Forum so it's a day of forums for me and thank you for listening. I think most of us can agree that the federal government has failed to create a workable immigration process. There's no line to get into for millions of people who face increasing persecution, detention and deportation. And the reasons that people are here undocumented are varied and complex and often beyond their controls as in cases where they were brought to the US as children.

We need to consider the individual circumstances of each person's life and recognize the humanity of all people. We wish local law enforcement to disentangle themselves from the Department of Homeland Security. It's as simple as that, I know these new laws have provided for that and I'm very much in support of them. When local law enforcement agencies use local resources to engage in immigration enforcement, it makes us all less safe and violates the spirit of the Truth Act and SB 54. Key steps toward disengagement would include not responding to ICE requests including interview notification and transfer requests. Local law enforcement agencies are not required to respond to these requests.

Stop posting release dates of individuals held in county jails. This violates everyone's privacy rights, and others have said that. And halt ICE access to all Santa Barbara County Sheriff's jail facilities and databases contained by them. There should never be two different systems of justice for documented and undocumented people. All people should be treated fairly, and this is the spirit behind the Truth Act.

And one of the concerns I had in listening to your sheriff was that I heard the words prone or inclined to violence and I just wanted to remind people that there have been many, many studies done recently on crime rates in our communities. In one study of 200 metro areas, the majority experience an immigrant population increase between 1980 and 2016 while crime stayed stable or fell. The 10 places with the largest increases in immigrants all had lower levels of crime in 2016 than they did in 1980. So by saying that, I'm just trying to emphasize the fact that these people are not coming here Do crimes.

They're coming for many reasons, a lot of them out of their control and I hope that as we grow and learn more about the Truth Act in SB 54 and how it can operate, how local law enforcement can operate within those laws that we become a team and learn how to protect our communities. Thank you very much.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:12:19

Bob Isip followed by Benito Camarillo and then Lupita Rios

CommentBob BisupProposedself-stated7:12:23

Hello, thank you. My name is Bob Bisup. I'm the minister of the First United Methodist Church of Santa Maria and I was invited to participate in the local gathering here. It was helpful for me to hear the report of the sheriff and appreciate all the work that he's doing. My comments more have to do with our conscience and more with our biases and our prejudices And to also talk about those who may be innocent or those who may be caught within the dragnet of the unfairness. And so my words are directed in that regard.

So on the Statue of Liberty and the plaque on a pedestal by Emma Lazarus which was installed in 1903, it says give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free Send these the homeless tempest tossed to me, I left my lamp beside the golden door. Now our country has since been a land of immigrants and those who have migrated started new. And so countless immigrants have made our nation great, contributed to the great good and been the backbone really of our society in our economy. So we seem to have adopted these values and it's a part of our great country but today we find ourselves ruled by certain leaders who have turned their backs on the values and want to target immigrants indiscriminately Racial profiling, random selection, unjust deportation.

Some law enforcement officials have been implementing these policies that go against what has been adopted as these values that we've hold long and have withdrawn their spirit of compassion. And so we just want to decry and call our officials into accountability right duty. As a person of Christian faith, especially in this season, we are all familiar with the story of Mary and Joseph. And they had fled for genocide for their son Christ Jesus.

They were immigrants in our Christian heritage. I don't know if any of you are Christian or those who are officials are. We're not advocating really lawlessness or anything goes. We're not advocating free-for-all chaos. Without order without standard or process, but what we are speaking for is for proper fair just treatment of immigrants According to the laws that have already been in place. So we are advocating dignity decency and responsibility And so that's the stance we're taking thank you

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:14:51

Next speaker is Benito Camarillo. Thank you

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction7:14:54

and I just want to remind folks that the testimony is two minutes, you guys were doing really good for a while but now that we're starting to get more clergy we've got to remind you more often.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:15:08

Following Benito will be Lupita Rios and then Pam Gates

CommentBenito CamarilloProposedself-stated7:15:12

Thank you my name is Benito Camarillo I work for MICA mystical indigenous community organizing project. I just want to mention that there is something we are missing here or I hope that we understand in regards to our mystical population which is a big population in Santa Maria and all of Santa Barbara. I just want to mention that I think we're missing something, the impact of the family separations. It's huge especially for our kids, for the mothers that are the ones that usually end up with children because the men are usually being deported.

As we heard, they're not criminals. They just happened to cross the border and I think that our children don't deserve this. I think we need to think more about what are the impacts for these children's mothers? So just to give you a little bit more information about They don't speak mostly Spanish or English and that creates a big. A big problem for our families when it comes to accessing resources, helping their kids. And I think that creates a problem for our kids the way that our kids are being raised and I think that second parent makes a huge impact for our children. It did it for me so Next speaker is Lupita Rios followed by Pam Gates and Patricia Inerte.

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CommentLupita RiosProposedself-stated7:17:25

Good afternoon, my name is Lupita Rios and as a member of this community I call to action or I'm here to demand that we implement the boundaries between local and federal immigration officials. The California Values Act does not stop local government from giving public full access to personal information which means ICE can access data. This creates fear and vulnerability to a large portion of people under the law. Crimes of exploitation, discrimination and violence against a part of our community go unreported when our local and federal governments seemingly come together.

Crimes like robbery or domestic violence targeted at undocumented communities can go unreported because people fear deportation or detainment. As a voter in this country, I call an end to all collaboration with ICE. As the daughter of hard-working immigrants, I ask you to put an end to the profiling and display of public information that only fuels the stereotypes against immigrants. As a student and product of this system, I understand what lack of protection under the law does to hurt our family friends and neighbors.

Since the feel of hatred towards immigrants has taken over in the last couple years, our current federal office has encouraged the discrimination and profiling through collaboration with ICE and local government. I understand that community members here have been profiling unjustly stereotypes. And we need to stop justifying the need for collaboration between local ICE and government with safety as an excuse. The word immigrant is not equivalent to a criminal, and I cannot have trust and confidence with my current local government if they continue to blur the lines between federal and local authority under the law. My friend's parents could not report when they were robbed of all their rent money out of fear of local police.

Detaining them through an inclusive and active practice of the Truth Act. I ask you to give full transparency about our collaborations between ICE in the next coming years, And to follow the enactment of the California Values Act. As an organizer in my community, I am addressing all decision makers in my county to stop posting the release dates of all people in the sheriff's custody. This practice is now used as a cruel attempt to undermine the California Values Act opening the door to painful due process abuses and racial profiling. Thank you.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:19:37

Pam Gates to be followed by Patricia Inerte to be followed by Gail McNeely.

GuestPam GatesSheriffProposedself-stated7:19:45

Hello, my name is Pam Gates and I live in Santa Barbara County. I'm here as a concerned citizen and as others have said, I think it's a real problem when the Sheriff's Office cooperates in the way that it currently does especially releasing information about everyone. I think it is a matter of privacy and I think it can do great harm I also want to comment on something that Sheriff Brown said when he said that a number of crimes and reasons to cooperate with ICE, that a number of crimes actually hurt the immigrant community.

And the community at large, and while that may be true and I of course think that people who commit crimes need to be punished. In fact, I think it causes less trust with law enforcement. In that people are more afraid that if they report a crime, they themselves or their families or their neighbors. Just as a kind of random happening of people gathered that they themselves might be swept up into this.

So I would also ask that there be less cooperation. That if someone is an immigrant, if someone is in jail they should be punished as the law permits but also they are still a human being and it doesn't mean that they are lifelong criminals or that the entire community should be painted with that same brush. Thank you.

CommentPatricia YarteProposedself-stated7:21:32

Patricia Yarte, Gail McNeely following that and then Hazel Devalos.

PresenterPatricia YarteSamanthaProposedself-stated7:21:41

So my name is Patricia Yarte and I am reading the story on behalf of Samantha. My name is Samantha and I am a senior at Los Pueblos High School. I read this story because I want to share with the Board of Supervisors my experience. One day this past summer my father came home from work because he had been arrested and sent to the county jail. My mother and grandpa borrowed money from our relatives to pay his bill, but when my grandpa went to pick him up he never came out. Instead he was detained by ICE and sent to Adelanto.

As soon as my mother called me to share the news I left to go comfort her. There was only one week left until school ended and I couldn't complete my finals. As the oldest sister, I tried to stay strong for my little sisters. I started working to help my mom and pay rent and pay the bills. Then my family was evicted from the home where we had grown up so I had to work even more now that my dad was detained.

I worked all summer cleaning hotel rooms in Santa Barbara and I thought about not going back to school because my family couldn't afford to survive. I wanted to drop out. I hated seeing my mother cry. Thankfully, my family found the Immigrant Legal Defense Center and they got my dad a free attorney. The attorney told us that my dad shouldn't have been detained by ICE inside the jail because he hadn't committed a serious crime. So why was he arrested?

Fortunately, the center helped us pay my dad's immigration bond and my family is finally together again. Everything has changed since my father has returned. I now have hope that my father will be able to stay in the US. Since he's returned, I stay at school until 6 PM every night to make up for the classwork I missed. Now not only do I want to keep going to school but I want to go to college to help families like mine.

I don't want any other students to go through what my family experienced. I want to ask the sheriff to stop posting the release dates of people in the county jail and not allow ICE to come inside the jails. If he hadn't posted the release date, maybe my family wouldn't have had to go through the most traumatic experience of our lives. Thank you.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:23:51

Gail McNeely to be followed by Hazel Devalos and Jorge

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed7:23:56

Gil. You probably know this but not everyone in jail is a bad guy And not everyone ICE deports is a bad guy or a bad woman. But that's not what happens, you know people do get deported who have not committed a crime because ICE has its own standards. Cooperating with ICE in any way including releasing the release dates ahead of time does not help those innocent people Once ICE has them, you have no control anymore. They should go to trial like anyone else. That's what should be happening.

And I'd like to say one thing. Every time I hear the term illegal alien, I cringe. Mr. Adam, your parents, my parents could be called illegal aliens because there were no papers, all right? They used to call them WAPs. So calling someone in, first no person is ill eagle and no person I see in this whole community is an alien. They didn't come from another planet.

So I think the terms we use tell us how we feel about the people we're talking about so we should talk about them with respect. People who are undocumented nothing wrong with saying that They would like to have documents, they would like to have freedom. They would like to have what we all have and what our parents brought to us. So I please beg you not to use the term illegal alien again because it's inaccurate and it's discriminatory. Thank You Mr. Adam please for just listening and not speaking thank you.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:25:43

Next speaker Hazel DeVos be followed by Jorge Gil and Hermelius Salazar

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed7:25:52

Hello, good afternoon Board. Hazel Davalos with CAWS. I first off want to start by asking the board in the room to reflect and remember in 2014 when we saw the largest protest that Santa Maria has ever seen when 3,000 Santa Maria residents came out to ask that the council not allow an ICE facility in our community. That moment it was so clear that the fear of ice is real and even more so now When local police and sheriffs aid deportation agents, that further undermines trust and confidence in law enforcement. Making our communities and families feel less safe. People are less likely to report crimes when victims and witnesses fear they may be deported when they come into contact with local law enforcement.

We need to let our criminal justice system do its job. No one deserves to be punished twice. Regarding the numbers of persons detained by ICE, the county jail is by far the main vehicle used to separate families in Santa Barbara County. Looking at the TRACS immigration system from Syracuse University there were 898 total apprehensions by ICE in Santa Barbara County in 2017 While local incarceration led to 405 of those arrests, almost double that from the federal prison 241 and individuals located by ICE themselves which was 200.

Specifically in concern to the numbers provided by the sheriff we are concerned that those individuals who are picked up by ICE as they leave the county jail Lastly, we also hope that future Truth Act forums will come earlier in the year to speak about the prior years numbers because we are just weeks away from the end of 2018 and we're concerned about the implementation of the Values Act. Thank you.

And I actually have a letter I'd like to turn in as well.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:27:42

Jorge Gil followed by Jeremiah Salazar and then Joanna Barrera.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed7:27:47

Thank you Chair, thank you Board and thank you Sheriff for your presentation. I'm glad that this forum is taking place and I too would ask that in the future they occur in a more timely fashion. I appreciated the editorial comments from the sheriff. And I want to believe that he is indeed acting out of the best interest for the well-being and safety of our community.

I will say, however, that the revamping of the system and the releasing of inmate release states, the timing of that appears as if wanting to circumvent the Values Act. And that's of concern, that our local law enforcement agency is appearing to circumvent the law. And so I would ask you to consider that and then also not release those dates anymore. I know he posited it has nothing to do with the Values Act And saying that is public information and access to everyone. But it's collaborating with ICE, even if in a backhanded way it's collaborating with ICE. And ICE is not a trustworthy partner. Their public statements do not coincide with their enforcement actions.

Collaboration or perceived collaboration with ICE is really a slap in the face to our community and a slap in the face to all of the truth act, the values act. And so please even the appearance of collaborating with ICE or the direct collaboration of ICE is not acceptable. We voted differently in this state. And I would invite you all to consider that, to caution you to not posit crime as an immigration issue.

It would be naive to think that if we deport all immigrants that we're going to do away with crime in our community and even with the most egregious of crimes they don't occur in a vacuum. Even if we deport one criminal who's committed atrocious acts, crimes are still going to continue. And if we don't find a way to reintroduce those people who have served their time back into the communities that they come from, back with their families, then it's going to continue. We cannot deport crime. Let's deal with crime here.

I don't support crime. More criminal acts in our community, but we do want to reintegrate all members of our community back into the community. Thank you.

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GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:30:39

Hermia Salazar to be followed by Joanna Barrera and then Anahi Mendoza

CommentJeremia SalazarProposedself-stated7:30:48

Hello good evening my name is Jeremia Salazar. I just want to take a moment and acknowledge that we are in the Chumash territory so that means to a point we all somehow came here because we are searching for a better life There's a lot of mistakos in Santa Maria and I come from a family of mistakos. We are hard working families, my brothers, my parents are still working hard. My parents are still working the fields and there's a lot of people that work in the fields and all they do is work seven days a week. They only take a day off to rest and take care of their stuff and it's sad that I mean America is great because of immigration. A lot of people that have come here it's because they're looking for a better life and it's sad to have now the sheriff and I working together and separating families.

I don't think it's fair we hear a lot of stories that a lot of young kids are taking the initiative to become adults because their parents are being deported, they can't finish school, they can't go to college because They need to take the initiative of taking their job and taking care of the family. So I don't think that's right, and we need to be conscious about that.

We need to work together not separating each other so I just want to take a moment and just say thank you for you guys for being here but we need to really work together not separating families. Thank you

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:32:30

Joanna Barretta, followed by Anahi Mendoza and then Mary Solario-Jaca.

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CommentJoanna BarreraProposedself-stated7:32:43

Well, thank you board for having us today. Good afternoon my name is Joanna Barrera. I already am with cause as well and so I would just like to start off with a personal anecdote. My family actually faced the direct consequences of the collaboration between ICE and the police. My brother was finishing up his community service and we were really really happy for a misdemeanor that he had We were really happy that he was finally finishing that. He was going to school and getting, he had a job, he has a job and improving his lifestyle.

And at the last time that he went to turn in his paperwork I picked him up and there was no way of contacting him. We were not given any phone number or information about his whereabouts Good thing about him that he knew his rights and he knew he had a case open. Luckily, we were able to find him in Camarillo and he was not given any form of a formal way of being let out of the jail.

We picked them up at a local shopping center and that to me speaks amounts of lack of trust between the government and residents. So that's a personal story of mine, why I care so much about this issue. If a person who happens to be an immigrant commits harm they need to be held accountable like anyone else, of course. But the actions of few people should not be used to scapegoat whole communities, including folks who may have been victims of racial profiling or who served their time decades ago and have changed their lives for positivity.

The current administration from the highest level has actively publicized criminal cases at the national level in order to vilify our immigrant communities as criminals. I demand that we stop the collaboration between ICE and our local law enforcement, thank you.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction7:35:04

Just going to do that reminder one more time because you seem to do really well right after I say let's keep it to two minutes. It has been slipping the last couple of times but for the most part, you guys have been totally on it. Thank you.

PresenterAnai MendozaImmigrant Legal Defense CenterProposedself-stated7:35:20

Good afternoon, sorry I'm losing my voice. I'm a bit sick. My name is Anai Mendoza. I am the director of the Immigrant Legal Defense Center. The Immigrant Legal Defense Center is a non-profit in Santa Barbara County that recruits and trains pro bono attorneys to represent people in deportation proceedings. The Immigrant Legal Defense Center became a need in Santa Barbara County because of the large numbers of individuals that are being detained. From January 2017 to May 2018, more than 1400 individuals in our county have been detained whether it be at the county jail or In community operations, it's often stated that the Santa Barbara Values Act or excuse me that the California Values Act has resulted in community enforcement. Community enforcement of immigration has always taken place in our county and throughout the nation.

You heard today from one of our, the daughter of one of our clients. An individual who was detained on a misdemeanor at the Santa Barbara County Jail whose family posted a bail so that he could be released and returned because he's the primary breadwinner of the family and the only driver. He was detained and his family posted the bail. And when he was released from the jail, he was handed his clothing and And walked out of the building, opened the door to walk out of the building and was detained by ICE. He was not detained on a crime that was a qualifying crime under SB 54.

But he was still detained, sent to the Adelanto Detention Center and was placed into deportation proceedings. Leaving his family to figure out how to pay rent, how to drive the kids to school and how to survive without him. Fortunately we were able to represent him and he is now back in Santa Barbara County but we worry that the posting of public release dates allows for cases like his and that of other individuals to be separated from their families. Thank you.

GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:37:28

Mary Solario-Jacka followed by Crystal Roble who's our final speaker

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed7:37:35

Good afternoon. Thank you for having this opportunity, giving us an opportunity to speak about this issue. I'm representing LULAC. I am president of the League of United Latin American Citizens and we're one of the oldest civil rights I'm here in support of those speakers that have spoken against the collaboration between law enforcement and ICE. Laws are in place to hold and to deal with the issues of crimes.

I believe we can follow the legal process through our courts. We are against the postings of the dates of those being released. And for all the reasons that have been spoken about, I am here representing our organization that we are totally against the postings of the release dates. Thank you very much.

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GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:38:50

Crystal Rubble? Crystal is our final speaker.

CommentCrystal RoblesProposedself-stated7:38:59

Good afternoon, my name is Crystal Robles. I am the daughter of immigrants. I am one of those people in the community who speaks Mixteco. I'm here to ask that we hold individuals who are supposed to protect and defend our community to hold them accountable for not and to ask that they not collaborate with ICE. Collaborating with ICE is actually one of the crimes because SB 54 says that local sheriff or law enforcement is not supposed to collaborate with ICE. But yet there, that's a crime itself.

We talk about immigrants and we talk about crime but We don't talk about the fear that communities live with crime not being reported, but yet we're here blaming immigrants. But they live in fear because of being deported. I myself suffered from my father being gone when I was a young child. My father was taken away from me and devastated my family because my mother worked day and night to support three kids when my father was only arrested for a minor offense.

My family was broken. My older siblings had to give up their schoolings to help my mother. We were left without adult supervision, it was pure teens looking over teens. So when we talk about immigrants and we talk about crime, we don't see the full picture. Families are being affected, families who are criminals But we see in our local media painted as rapist murders. Families are being devastated and torn apart, so I'm here to ask that our sheriff, our county supervisors to please stop collaborating with ICE because you are breaking families and one was mine.

And there's many more out there in the community, not just in here. Not just in Santa Barbara County but all over the counties from Oxnard to Ventura to San Luis so please put an end to this.

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GuestPeter AdamProposed · by introduction7:41:31

That concludes public comment

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction7:41:37

To the board, I will remind you that the action that we are legally required to do is to receive and file this report and determine that it is not a project under CEQA. Of course, but Mr. Adam? Sheriff, why don't we... I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed7:41:57

was going to ask the sheriff a question first So if ICE issues a detainer, they already know about these people

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated7:42:07

right? That is correct. There's really no such thing as a detainer in our eyes now that the word detainer was the old under the old system they would issue what they did call a detainer and would basically ask local law enforcement to hold that person after their release and for up to 48 hours so that they could come and get them. And then the law changed and there was this court decision with Clackamas County That resulted in a change in that and basically law enforcement no longer honoring the so-called detainer.

They also, ICE then changed their notification to local law enforcement to request a notification of release. So it's really we call them notifications now rather than detainers but you are correct if we get A request for notification. It is a request because ice already knows who that person is and knows that they are in our custody. It's not someone who we are picking up the phone and calling them about and saying, We suspect this guy of something or another. It is someone who they have already come under the knowledge that that person is energy.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed7:43:19

And why would that be?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated7:43:21

Well, 99 times out of 100 I think it's probably through the federal fingerprint database. In other words that person is wanted by the federal government whether its for a civil or criminal violation of immigration law or criminal law And they have had prior contact with ICE authorities. Their fingerprints are on file with the federal government, and those fingerprints match that person. ICE puts two and two together and determines that they are in the country illegally, and they therefore go ahead and issue that notification request.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed7:43:56

So a much shorter answer is because they committed a crime?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated7:44:00

Well, yes. I mean they're considered innocent obviously until they're proven guilty but the reality is everyone who is in our jail is in our jail because they either were convicted of a crime or they are suspected of committing a crime

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed7:44:14

Okay all right so that's criminal. Did you want to say some stuff?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated7:44:20

I just have a couple things I'd like to just let you and the public know in response to some of the comments that were made, just to clarify a couple of things. First of all, there was some alluding to the fact that the timing on our jail management system coincided and indeed it did with the opening of the Values Act when the Values Act became law. But for a number of years prior to that we had been in the process of working with the company and changing over Our jail management system from a server based system to an internet based system and it was a complete change in the technology and a complete upgrade.

In the jail management system and one of the features of the jail management system under the new system that we didn't have in the old system is the who's in jail module which allows people To query the system to determine if a person is in jail and if they are, what is that person charged with? And if that person has been convicted it will show what their release date is.

That system was put into place, the ball was put into motion on that well before and it had really, it was completely coincidental that it came up at the same time that the Values Act came about. I also want to clarify that we do not release lists of people with their release dates. We make that information available if someone specifically asks about a person. That person could be another law enforcement agency, as what we're talking about today with ICE or it could be a victim that wants to know if a person who committed a crime against them, if they're still in our custody and if they are in our custody when are they going to be released from our custody? So it's public information but it's not released en masse In a list of people it has to be accessed and someone has to have an inkling that person is in our custody.

Plug that name into the computer system, and then get that information back. And the only other thing that I just wanted to say is that There's one thing I missed in our, to tell you in our presentation and that was the effect of the interviewing of people in our jail based on the change in the law with the Trust Act which required that notification that I told you about with the forms. The effect of that was that in 2017 we actually had no ICE interviews within the jail. In other words after people started to get these forms and the vast majority of them Stopped cooperating and stopped interviewing, being interviewed by ICE. ICE just stopped coming into our jail to interview inmates. So really there was zero instances of that in 2017.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed7:47:17

Supervisor Atom. So I would continue, so I apologize to my colleagues because I know that what we're minimally legally required to do here is just have a hearing and shut it down but there's some things I feel compelled to say. And it's a little awkward, but I think we just got to do it. First of all on the 28th of August this year we voted 5-0 on a resolution that celebrated people Coming in the door legally and people who enforce the laws of the United States.

And I thought that was significant, and I think the people of this community notwithstanding some of us here today enjoyed that. I got some good feedback from that. Now I want to respond to some of these comments that we had during public comment, one of them was to somebody who asked us if we were Christians And yes, I am Christian and Jesus said give to Caesar what is Caesars. And what that means is that you're supposed to as a Christian observe the laws As they currently exist and if you don't like the way the laws are as they currently exist then you have to change them. And God bless everybody that's here today because this is how we change them in large part as we come and do public comment and ask for something different, and that's great however this forum right here is probably not exactly optimal because it's not our jurisdiction to do that And then some of the comments redefining criminal activities.

You know first of all though the word alien is a legal term of art in federal law and an alien who is not here legally is illegal and I'm never going to stop saying illegal alien because it is perfectly exactly accurate I understand that some people just want to repackage that and you know, I get it but that's a packaging problem. A messaging problem and I'm personally not playing along. Sovereignty either exists or doesn't exist.

It's a value to me. I think many, many people in our community have a value in our sovereignty as the United States of America. Our military has lost many, many lives defending that sovereignty and continues to do so. And I think that value needs to be preserved above all else. People looking for a better life should come here, they should come through the front door, they should come in properly and not break the law.

And seriously, serious criminals should be removed from our streets in my opinion in any way possible. And if deportation is appropriate I'm all for it. Supervisor Wolf?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed7:51:22

Thank you Mr. Chair and thank you to everyone who showed up today in Santa Maria and Santa Barbara. And thank you to the sheriff for being here, and by what you have said it sounds like you've done outreach in the community and I think that's a good thing. I just want to make some comments to Supervisor Adam. I don't think this was just a hearing and we shut it down.

I'm here to hear from the public, and I'm also here to learn about what we're doing in the jail. And I do have some questions and clarifying issues that I want to better understand. Supervisor Adam mentioned that we have a front door to come into our nation, and I feel that that front door has been slammed. It's slammed shut. There is no way to get to come in legally or otherwise.

There is no process as I see it right now to seek asylum. That is a larger issue, but it's one that troubles me because I think it has taken over a lot of our discussion in the national stage. But it affects our community and it affects our community just by hearing from people today who talked about their personal stories. And I'm sorry I didn't write down your name.

Crystal? Thank you for sharing your story because it's heartbreaking. And you don't live in my district, but in my district there have been instances where ICE has come and they have arrested people. And it's not related to the jail, they've come to their house, they've come to their home and arrested individuals and then they had to go through the legal process.

So not only is it not perfect, it's unconscionable what I see and what I feel right now. But to the issue of what's happening in the jail and with the sheriff, let me just say a few things because I sit on the Community Corrections Partnership and Mention what Sheriff Brown stated about the jail management system. That that has actually been a system that the CCP and other law enforcement agencies, and district attorneys, and public defenders in behavioral wellness we have wanted they have wanted to have a better system in place in the sheriff's department Little did I know at that time that this was going to be an issue with release dates as has been talked about today.

So when I'm listening to everyone talk, I'm thinking to myself that it sounds like the issue is that the posting of a release date is what is concerning and so While you were talking, I looked at Ventura's jail website and they also post a release date. But Sheriff if you can just come up, I do have a question. It seems that the posting of a release date is done even if someone is posting bail or they haven't been convicted.

So, the release date is only posted if there's a conviction?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated7:55:29

Correct. Because we don't, we wouldn't otherwise have a date that that person was going to be released. In other words if they are in jail and they are pre-sentenced haven't been sentenced by the court uh we have no idea how long they're gonna be in jail. They'll be in jail until they either bail out or their case is finished and adjudicated and they are sentenced by a judge at the time of sentencing Then they get a release date that's put into their record that is available. And again I want to clarify it's not posted, it has to be requested in other words you have to go on to it and specifically go in and get it. It's not posted for the general

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed7:56:06

public to see per se. Director Harris Well if you have a person's name which apparently ICE would do they might have a person's name they could go into our site. And they would see when the person is released.

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated7:56:21

They can if they have that name, they can access it just like any member of the public, a victim, a family member or someone who's in jail anyone can access that and again they have to have the specific name to get that information.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed7:56:33

Okay and then I just want to be clear about the posting of bail. If someone posts bail is that release date noted?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated7:56:43

No, that's before there is actually before there would be a release date because it's before they've even been sentenced. Okay so they're held on they're held in jail for specific amount of bail and if someone or bail bond bail bondsman or family member or someone post bail then that person is released now there are some very limited situations for particularly Serious crimes that we can, there are exceptions where we can make a notification if someone's in the process of being bailed out. If they have already had a preliminary hearing in front of a judge and a judge has essentially sanctioned their being held in jail. So there is a slight mechanism for that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed7:57:29

It would seem if they had a really serious crime it would be no bail.

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated7:57:33

No, that's not the case. No bail crime typically is only going to be in the case of murder. Very heinous crime would be a no bail other than that there typically are bail amounts for any type of crime

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed7:57:46

Okay if I could Mr. Chair, I have another question about the forms that people are required to complete. I don't understand how that fits into again it seems that folks are focused on the release date but what about the other piece about the forms that need to be filled out? Does that happen in this whole process?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated7:58:10

Yeah there it's a little separate but in other words if ICE wants to talk to someone who is in our jail We have to have a form filled out and explained to the inmate who is in jail. ICE wants to talk to you, this is what they want to talk to you about and it informs them that it's not obligatory that they communicate with ICE and they have to sign that form and a copy of that form is given. And likewise if ICE requests a notification of release date and gets it we fill out a form and the inmate gets a copy of that form as well.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed7:58:47

They do, okay.

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated7:58:49

And that's all under the law?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed7:58:52

How often does that happen if you can estimate that ICE actually comes into the jail to meet with an inmate?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated7:58:59

It's really not happening at all anymore and hasn't for almost two years.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed7:59:03

Okay. So then going back now to the release date so the individual gets the form is it in English and Spanish?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated7:59:13

English and Spanish, I think there's two other languages. Whatever the two other most prevalent languages are in our county. Is it three or four? Four different languages we have to form. They'd be the four most prevalent non-English languages of people who are in our community.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed7:59:33

So they know that ICE knows that they're going to be released on a certain date by this form, right?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated7:59:41

They are notified of that if ICE is making that request officially to us, we send that form and complete that form and a copy of that. It's our policy and it's the law that we give a copy of that DNA.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed7:59:57

But as you said,

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated7:59:59

ICE

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed7:59:59

may not notify you formally they might just go on the website and see the name?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated8:00:04

Oftentimes ICE will do that. They will get the release date and be waiting for that person when they're released from jail. And that's how they're picked up.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed8:00:14

Thank you, Sheriff.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction8:00:17

Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.848:00:19

I think Supervisor Lavanino was before me but Sheriff, I just had some questions and again thank you. Want to echo what Supervisor Wolf said about your meeting with the community and being here today. I think next time you do this it might be helpful to have a flow chart or something about how this all works because I'm having some trouble mapping it out in my own mind so Let me just see if I understand. So, if one of your officers encounters someone on the street who may have committed a crime and then suspects that they're not here with proper documentation in the country what happens?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated8:01:00

Nothing.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.848:01:01

Okay, so there's they

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated8:01:03

would never be arrested for... The person may be arrested if they are also suspected of committing a

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.848:01:08

crime. So they would never be arrested for an immigration charge? Correct. And I just want to be clear about that. So if you bring them into the jail and they're suspected of something but for whatever reason they post bail or there's not evidence or you find somebody else What happens then? Is ICE in any way contacted, I guess they get the information if they're actually fingerprinted and it goes but is there any other kind of notification that would bring ICE to this person.

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated8:01:42

Well typically everyone is fingerprinted so that fingerprint database ICE has access to that essentially for everyone whether they're citizen, non-citizen legal or undocumented resident. So with respect to the law there are 800 or so crimes under the and again it's not what we talked about today because the Values Act wasn't in place at the time But there are 800 or so different crimes that specifically permit the law enforcement agency to communicate with ICE about the release. And that can be initiated by the law enforcement agency. So if it was a serious offense that fell under these parameters, then we would make that notification. And how do you do it? Typically it is almost and I'll defer to my custody staff but I would say it's almost always ICE is aware already of that person being in our custody because of the fact that they have access to that database.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.848:02:40

And I'm just curious, do you call them? Do you send them an email? What is the actual process for notification?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated8:02:47

I'm going to ask Sergeant Cobb to come up here. He's been he's the one that went through hand searched all these records to get us

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 23Proposed8:02:53

this data. Good evening everybody. I've held the current position that I have for almost a year now. I work in detail on the ICE notifications, we have yet to my knowledge reach out to ICE it's always a notification that comes from them and as the sheriff said it goes through their fingerprints go through DOJ that's where ICE gets their information and then they send a note the notification stating that they want to interview this inmate Once that happens, we send the form back to the inmate. I've yet to see one return to me where the inmate said yes.

I've yet to see where an inmate has volunteered to sign one. They have the option to refuse to sign it. My personal experience has been they don't even want to touch the form once we explain it to them they're like no you can keep it and it comes back to me unsigned

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.848:03:53

So then the last case, if I might just continue to follow this up. So when someone has been sentenced, they've served their term, they're about to be released. I don't understand how this who's in jail process works. There is a computer database that everybody has wanted but who has access to it? Can any member of the public and do you have any ability to block any of the fields?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated8:04:25

The short answer is yes. Any member of the public who has access to our website can go on to a part of that website which is a Who's in Jail section and there is a field where you can enter a name if you want to inquire about a person And again, you have to have that name. It's not as though it's, you know, you could just go and look at a list and see that someone was in jail. It really is specific to that person's inquiry.

The information that is posted is public information per the government code And that is information that is also available, for example to the press. If we arrest someone and the press makes an inquiry and wants to know about this person who was arrested for a specific crime, that is information they It is available to them, it's a public record. It's available to anyone as a result of the government code. We can redact certain parts of that information and do redact certain parts of that information like home addresses and things like that but specifically the name, the charge, the arrest date, the release date if they're sentenced all of that is information that by law is public info

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.848:05:45

So I just want to re-emphasize, so by law that has to be made public?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated8:05:51

The release date. It is publicly, it is public information. It doesn't have to be proactively disseminated but if someone asks for that information it has to be released to them. And I'll defer to our county council to catch me if I'm not stating that correctly but I think that that is the correct way.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.848:06:12

It sounds like we have a system where people can, it's pretty open and they can come get on your website look up a name and find out the release date. And that's a very open system but we wouldn't have to make that public. We could make it so they actually have to call and get the release date

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated8:06:34

I don't know that we could, but the reason it's not exclusively there for. It's there for a variety of different reasons and a big part of that is that victims of crime should be able to know if someone you know when someone who has victimized them is being released from jail. That has nothing to do with whether they happen to be an immigrant or not that's any criminal who's in our custody That really is the reason that these suites were put together on these.

That particular section is put together on these computerized digital suites that are jail management systems because of that. And I want to just say this is not something that's unique to us, it's common to many, many sheriff's offices not only in California but throughout the nation and some sheriff's offices actually just post all the information they have photographs names all the information is posted so you can just scroll down and literally you could see anybody and everybody that's in jail we have chosen to not Release it in that fashion.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.848:07:43

So I think Supervisor Wolf said Ventura does have a similar thing. I believe SLO does not, I mean not all counties do it this way am I correct?

CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated8:07:52

Not all counties have this system but I know, do we have any idea how many have it? I can't, I don't have a number for you offhand but I know that there are you know when we were actually exploring this several months ago and looking at it we very quickly found well over a dozen other sheriff's offices that had that

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.848:08:14

Well thank you I look forward to the next report. I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your work on this and I especially appreciate everyone in the community who came out We find ourselves in a national situation that is quite frankly ugly and scapegoating a whole group of citizens for reasons that have nothing to do with them. It's really to politicize an issue when there are many, many more important issues in my view facing our nation.

So this scapegoating is really hard for all of us and it does put everybody in the community at risk. We've heard some heart-wrenching stories today and I've had people come to office hours, we know that this national atmosphere creates I'd be eager to learn more what we can do to ensure that they do have legal counsel. Thank you.

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CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction8:10:09

Supervisor Lavenino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.888:10:10

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I don't have any questions, Sheriff. Thank you very much though for a thorough presentation. I agree. I think it's a symptom of a larger problem and I want to thank Crystal and all those who shared their personal stories. And I know you have your hand raised because you have more questions but we don't do those and so if you have questions for people afterwards, I'm sure people will stay around the sheriff and his folks will stay around as well.

I think it was Gina Whitaker, when you mentioned that it's reflective of failed federal system. And I saw a picture once and it was Uncle Sam at the border with a Keep Out sign in one hand and a Help Wanted sign in the other. So we kind of suffer from a little bipolar disorder. I'm not even sure I'm getting to the point where I'm not sure even deportation works anymore when you see the ones that, for some people it's just a slowdown. It's a rotating spin dial.

So I represent Santa Maria, we're very diverse community and the vast underlined three or four times majority of individuals regardless of how they ended up here Are very hardworking community minded people. But I think at least the people I talked to really have no patience for those that come to our community and commit violent crimes, whether they are citizens or non-citizens. I think they need to face the full extent of the law.

A former member of this board is now a member of Congress and I hope he hears from all of you That we demand, stop the political fighting and demand comprehensive immigration reform. And hopefully this symptom will then be taken care of so I appreciate the report and hope to hear the next one as well.

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CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction8:12:18

Mr. Gazzani you had some clarification?

CommentDiana EstorgaProposed · by introduction8:12:21

Chair and Supervisors, I just didn't want to leave the question or the sheriff's question hanging. And that is that when the sheriff indicated that the Sheriff's Department is complying with essentially the government code 7200 series, that's accurate and there is a poll on the sheriff's office to comply with the Public Records Act in terms of the identification of people that are arrested so How that's done, there is an overlap between the Public Records Act and Government Code 7284.6 but the Sheriff is exactly correct that he has a requirement to provide information in response to the Public Records Act.

CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction8:12:59

I wanted to talk about a couple of the issues raised. First, a question to the Sheriff. My understanding and please tell me it is not The practice of our sheriff's department to ever refer a witness or to disclose the personal information of a witness. To a crime or someone who reports something to ice. Is that the case? That is correct because I do think that this is a very important debate But all sides of that debate, I believe need to encourage people when they have witnessed crime or are victims of a crime.

To come to law enforcement with confidence. With confidence that they will be protected, with confidence that their information will not be shared with ICE. And with confidence that there's obviously some disagreement here but I think as an aggregate, And as an aggregate, as county government it is certain that we do not equate being an immigrant with being a criminal.

And that our first mission in this debate is to figure out how the best protect the communities that has the most at stake which happens to be the immigrant community. Is something I hope that we will all encourage people to do because crime and natural disasters both disproportionately affect immigrant communities. So, I think there's a lot at stake for us to properly disseminate information and for us to make sure that the public can provide us with information without fear.

I guess the other part, I'll just weigh in briefly on this question about the word illegal. For Thanksgiving my wife and our two little girls went to her Navajo side of the family and in one of those houses they have a poster of a native looking guy and he goes Who you call an illegal pilgrim, and I do think there is a historical irony to this debate. And while I think it's a precise term, it's also sort of at this point a politically loaded one that sort of I think sometimes takes away from the ability for us to come together for Solutions that will be required, because the only way we're going to fix this is with comprehensive immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship.

In this society, there are certain low-level crimes that we do not equate with being a criminal. I'm sure half of the people who got here today probably broke the speed limit at a certain point and we do not stigmatize But sometimes we ask people to do some form of restitution or to take certain actions. And in the past, there has been I think a clearly articulated path to citizenship that might include a line and a process to an even pro-immigrant legislator proposed a restitution fine as part of that path.

Something like that needs to happen because both in this county and in the state, I feel very strongly that we need to end sort of our economic and demographic war on our young. We do this both in our housing policy and this community, I think also but the immigration policy of one other place. It is not only just, it is not only human, it is not only Christian. I mean in the Bible it basically says several thousand times that a nation would be judged by how we treat the poor, the widow, the orphan and the foreigner slash alien slash immigrant however you want to translate that word But it is also functional for us to have an immigrant community because our state's demographics, we don't have enough young people to sustain our economy and our prosperity.

And our way of life in California unless we have a place economically and legally where Young people can survive and immigrants are disproportionately younger, the younger folks that we desperately need. We're not going to be able to take care of y'all, you know. And so, you know, to me this is if you look at it the issue at the biggest level this is a demographic imperative to change the way that we treat immigrants and young people and especially when those two are one in the same That being said, I do think that the debate on SB 54 was very close to something that would have kept law enforcement with enough good tools but also would have decreased the sometimes incidence of unjust cooperation with ICE.

And it just didn't quite get there. And I kind of feel like we're left with the results of an imperfect negotiation. I think that a society could probably agree on a set of crimes that were heinous enough that you would, Cooperate and on crimes that are low level enough that you would not ever cooperate with ice. But we didn't quite get there in that process, and now we're left with a sort of strange rubric of laws.

And I just want to caution against You know, I feel that we are being terribly unjust against immigrants in this society. But that doesn't mean that I want to remove too many of law enforcement's tools to protect me and my family and immigrants and their families. And so I hope that this dialogue and these reports will continue And that we as a county can create our own model. That means that we are a more unified community, that is unified both in our desire to protect immigrant communities both from unjust deportation and from criminals that reside within that community.

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CommentSheriff Bill BrownProposedself-stated8:21:23

Chair if I could just add, I would agree with you. I think as I said earlier in my comments that what we really needed to achieve is a balance and that is really what we are striving for in the Sheriff's Office. And I think I respect members of the community came out and spoke today and I would encourage them to continue to meet with me and let me know if they have any grievances or if they have any specific issues where Something unjust has been done, but as I said earlier, I also want them to recognize that not everybody that is in our jail is a good person. That we have people who come in there who will do harm to other people and we need to be able to use the law and work within the law in such a way that we cannot recycle those people back into our community.

By doing that, we protect members of our community and members of the immigrant community as well. But that balance which is the hardest thing to achieve Is really what we need it's what we're striving for. And I agree with both- chair Williams and with suit- supervisor Hartman that and all of you that really until the federal government. You know really- takes the bull by the horns and addresses this issue in a nonpartisan manner comes to some agreement 12 plus million people who are here a path to either legal residency or citizenship.

We're going to still have problems and issues, but we need to protect our community. We need to protect our country and we need to recognize that you know we're not the enemy. We'r ehere to protect you. We re here to protect every member of this community whether they're documented or not And we encourage you to come forward with that. As mentioned, we do not give information on witnesses to ICE or to any other persons and as a matter of fact there's a provision in the law that people who are victims of certain crimes can apply for special visas to be able to stay here as a result of being the victims of crime So there are avenues of the law that can help protect people. And if there are injustices, if there are issues again I encourage you to come and continue to meet with me and talk about them.

Thank you for the opportunity to present to you today.

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CommentPam GatesProposed · by introduction8:23:38

Can I get a motion to receive and file and determine that this is not a project under CEQA? So moved. There is a motion, there's second. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? We will adjourn until next Tuesday in Santa Barbara. ♪

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