BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 March 19, 2019

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:23

Good morning, everyone. Music 321.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:22

Good morning, everybody. We'd like to call this meeting to order. If you have a seat, take a seat. And we'd like to call this meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors to order. Madam Clerk, can I get a roll call please?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:46

Mr. Hart? Present. Ms. Hartman? Here. Mr. Adam? Mr Williams? Mr. Lavinino, here. Let the record reflect that Supervisor Adam is absent.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:58

Okay if you could all

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:59

please rise and join in the Pledge of Allegiance. Ready? Begin.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

Can I get a motion to approve the minutes of our last meeting?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:28

So moved.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:31

Moved and seconded, all those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously. Let's move on to our administrative agenda. Can I get a motion to approve items A1 through A11, our resolutions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:48

So moved.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:49

Moved and seconded, all those in favor? None opposed? Okay, let's move right into A1. Madam Clerk.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:58

Chair Lavinino and members of the board item A1 is sponsored by Supervisor Williams it is to adopt a resolution of accommodation honoring local contractors in Santa Barbara County for emergency response services to the people of Santa Barbara County and if I can have Jim Lasch, Rob Craig, Brian Larinen, Doug Barnes, Kathy and Roger Fortier Steve Scott, Blair Douglas, Craig Flowers and Christina Tolbert, Jesse Bishop, Bruce Mercier and Brian Schifferer to the podium.

And anyone else who'd like to join you? I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Whereas the Thomas Fire destroyed the watersheds above Montecito and the Carpentaria Valley. And whereas the 1-9 debris flow devastated portions of our community. Destroying homes, damaging public infrastructure, depositing enormous amounts of debris and tragically taking lives. And whereas following the Thomas fire and the resulting debris flow, the ability of public agencies to respond was stretched to the limit. And whereas in times of great need of resources and assistance, the county turns to local contractors to mobilize the labor and equipment needed in such time of emergencies.

And whereas local contractors and their employees Have always answered the call and rose to the need providing the equipment and resources needed by the Public Works Department, Fire Department, and other state and local agencies to respond to emergencies. And whereas these local contractors are called upon to render assistance day, night, and weekends sometimes being asked for 24 hours a day. And whereas without the assistance of our local contractors, the county in its cities, Caltrans, and Would be unable to swiftly respond to restore the roadways, power water sewer service and remove debris from channels and basins.

And whereas the citizens of Santa Barbara County are well served by the local contracting community to protect their lives property and quality of life. Now therefore it is hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors of Santa Barbara County, State of California honors our local contractors including but not limited to Granite Construction Company, Lash Construction Inc., Bob's Backhoe & Trucking, R.W. Scott Construction Company Inc., Shaw Contracting Inc., Cal Portland Construction, Tierra Contracting Inc., and RLF Trucking & Grading Corp. for their services to Santa Barbara County and its residents and extends its heartfelt thanks and appreciation to these contractors, their employees, and the local contracting community they represent passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed7:41

Good morning, Mr. Chair and board members. Thank you so much for recognizing the contractors who are here today and thanks to the clerk for announcing everyone who came today and public agencies during times of emergencies rely on the local contracting community and that's who these folks represent this morning And they help us respond to disasters and they help us keep the public safe, and they help us stand communities up again. Certainly during the 1-9 debris flow and emergencies before that and through this winter as well because pretty much after every rain event we've been clearing our basins and clearing creeks to protect the community of Montecito safe. So we are so fortunate here in Santa Barbara County to have these people, have these resources available to us and as a resolution said all we have to do is give them a call they drop everything and they come out and they respond for us.

So big thank you to them for certainly coming today for always being there for us and augmenting our staff and our resources to allow us in public works fire and other public agencies in the county to do the job we do. So thank you for honoring them.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role8:44

Supervisor Williams

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed8:50

Well, I was I was honored to do this resolution day Probably because I was so impressed with the kind of work that has been done Since the one nine debris flow. I Think the work last year was more known but the work this year has been a rapid and And efficient logistical job, getting in there fast, clearing out the basins with very short periods between storms. Sometimes really 24 to 32 hours between storms which has required a lot of work all night, a lot of work with complicated and complex logistical networks. So I really give it up to Public Works and to the contractors for the work that they've done.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role9:38

And I would also echo that, and I thought it was interesting when Scott asked if any of this large group wanted to say anything. As typical as people that are more interested in doing things than talking about things, you guys and women are the ones that get things done so we do really appreciate that and really appreciate all you do for the county. So thank you for being here today.

All right, Madam Clerk would you like to read item A2 please?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed10:25

Chair Lavinino and members of the board. Item A2 is sponsored by Supervisor Williams it is to adopt a resolution proclaiming the week of March 25th through March 29th 2019 as Tsunami Preparedness Week in Santa Barbara County and if I can have Rob Lewin and JD Saucedo to the podium Whereas, a tsunami is a series of ocean waves caused by a large displacement of water from earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and underwater seismic activity. Potentially causing substantial damage and significant loss of life.

People living, visiting or working in a tsunami hazard area must be aware of the warning signs that indicate potential tsunami activity. Warning signs include a strong earthquake, the ocean withdrawing or rising rapidly, or loud roaring sound coming from the ocean. Whereas if conditions indicate a tsunami threat exists, the public must immediately take action by calmly moving inland and to high ground. Tune into local media to stay informed of the situation once in a safe location. Stay away from the coasts and low lying areas including rivers and creeks until local government officials say it's safe to return which may take hours. And whereas there are three levels of notification that people must know. Tsunami watch, a tsunami may later impact the area.

Tsunami advisory, a tsunami with the potential to generate strong currents or waves dangerous to those in or very near the water is imminent. Expected or occurring and may continue for several hours. Significant inundation is not expected for areas under an end advisory. And tsunami warning, a tsunami with the potential to generate widespread inundation is eminent, expected or occurring. Dangerous coastal flooding accompanied by powerful currents is possible and may continue for several hours. Evacuations of identified tsunami inundation areas will be required, and whereas the public can now access a new interactive tsunami inundation map at readysbc.org to identify if their property workplace and areas of interest are located in the tsunami hazard area.

The public is also strongly encouraged to register to receive local emergency alerts from Aware and Prepare at ReadySVC.org, and now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors does hereby proclaim the week of March 25th through 29th, 2018 as Tsunami Preparedness Week passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role12:46

Mr. Chair and Supervisors, I'd just like to introduce you to J.D. Saucedo who's an Emergency Manager here at the County Office of Emergency Management. He's charged with leading our efforts in tsunami preparedness and he works with the state in that endeavor. J. D.?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed13:05

Good morning Mr. Chair and Board of Supervisors. Thank you for your time. The privilege of living in a coastal community near and along major areas of tectonic activity is not without its risks. Though rare, the threat of tsunamis exists in our community. By raising awareness and acknowledging this hazard, Santa Barbara County has taken meaningful steps to improve the safety of our communities and those who visit it year-round.

A tangible example of this is found not only in this board's resolution But also in the recently published tsunami inundation map now available to the public at ReadySVCO.org Thank you for your time and for your support. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role13:47

So I was telling Supervisor Hart those are my favorite signs in the whole county. The giant wave with the guy running away from it, I love. I don't know if people thought they were supposed to go the other way so that's good that we're telling them to go that way Those are good. So Madam Clerk, A3 please.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed14:05

Chair Lavinino and members of the board, item A3 is sponsored by Supervisor Hart. It is to adopt a resolution of accommodation honoring Corinne Basso upon her retirement from the probation department after over 23 years of dedicated service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County. And if I can have Corinne Basso to the podium? Whereas Corinne Christine Basso was born in Winchester, Massachusetts and moved to Santa Barbara in 1980 graduating from Northeastern University in Boston, Massachusetts in 1979 and earning a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice. She began her career in public service in 1981 with the Santa Barbara Police Department as a Public Service Assistant and also a Parking Enforcement Officer. And whereas following an internship with the Probation Department collecting restitutions for victims, in 1995 officer Basso was hired as an extra help group counselor at the Santa Barbara Juvenile Hall and subsequently hired as a full-time deputy probation officer in 1996, promoting to senior deputy probation officer in 2002.

And whereas Officer Basso worked in both the juvenile and adult divisions which allowed her the opportunity to work with sex offenders, domestic violence cases, mental health offenders Substance abuse cases and a variety of juvenile supervision cases. She received the department's Bulldog Award in 2009 for increasing the collection of restitutions from victims, as well as fines and fees.

Whereas Officer Basso has been a positive force for change, fostering individual growth in staff and offenders. Many have benefited from her passion, empathy, positivity and commitment to improving lives. She has trained numerous new officers throughout her career instilling the importance and honor of being a peace officer, inspiring others to see their employment as not a job but a career.

And whereas Officer Basso is the proud mother of Brian, a city of Oxnard firefighter who also protects and serves his local community. In retirement, she plans to golf, fish, travel, cycle and attend Broadway shows. She's prepared to take advantage of the next chapter in her life enjoying leisure activities and focusing on physical health. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors recognizes Corinne Basso for over 23 years of dedicated service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County and the Probation Department and extend to her best wishes for fulfilling enjoyable and rewarding retirement passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed16:55

Thank you Chair and Supervisors and Supervisor Hart. On behalf of the department and Chief Heitman, we are both excited for Corinne's next chapter and we realize the gap she'll be leaving in our Santa Barbara downtown office. Corinne is known by her peers as a voice of the people also as Mama Basso And she's a very intrinsically motivated and balanced probation officer.

She believes in both holding individuals accountable, and she also believes that people can change. She's mentored many of our new staff. She's a sounding board for our seasoned officers. And she deeply cares about her work and about her co-workers. The department and the community is a better place because of the passion and commitment of Officer Corinne Basso. Congratulations.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed17:52

Thank you Deputy Chief Sheehan, Board of Supervisors and Supervisor Hart for this resolution of commendation. I also want to thank my friends and coworkers who are here today as well as my wonderful son for all his love and support over the years and his lovely wife Nicole. Working as a probation officer has been a dream come true. Over the years, I have worked with remarkable and talented people within and outside the department. As a probation officer, I have had the unique opportunity to enforce court orders to assist offenders in making better choices and positive changes in their lives while protecting the community. Although the work at times has been challenging and difficult, its rewards have made it worthwhile. I will always cherish the memories and the staff who have enriched my life in this career.

Thank you for your time.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role18:56

Not sure anybody's going to be working at the county after we get through March. It's like everybody's leaving. Congratulations, we wish you well and hopefully I'll see you out on the golf course. Thank you. Let's read item four please.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed19:11

Chair Lavinino and members of the board. Item A4 is sponsored by Supervisor Hartman it is to adopt a resolution of accommodation honoring Lieutenant Colonel Dean Davidge as the March 2019 Veteran of the Month in Santa Barbara County. And if I can have Lieutenant Colonel Dean Davidge to the podium? Whereas, Santa Barbara County is home to more than 22,000 veterans and whereas those who have given the ultimate service to this nation by serving in its armed forces and deserving of recognition and gratitude by all Americans. And whereas the 3rd District has the honor of recognizing the Lieutenant Colonel Dean Davidge for his courageous service to our nation during the Vietnam War in the United States Marine Corps.

And whereas, Lieutenant Colonel Davidge arrived in Vietnam in 1967 at the age of 24 and spent a majority of his time there making daily deliveries of food and supplies to troops out in the field, and also help with medical evacuations of other emergency situations. And whereas Lieutenant Colonel Davidge was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross during his service. And whereas after completing a 20-year career in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve he retired with the ranking lieutenant colonel and returned to San Ines and moved into the house he grew up in.

And whereas upon returning home to the San Ines Valley, Lieutenant Colonel Davidge immersed himself in community service Supporting local youth through volunteerism with the family school board. As AYSO soccer coach, he started a local gymnastics program and became a 4H beekeeping project leader and served as a Dunn School trustee for 23 years. Therefore let it be resolved that this Santa Barbara Board of Supervisors honors Lieutenant Colonel Dean Davidge as the March 2019 Veteran of the Month for his service in our armed forces followed by his service to our community through volunteerism passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed21:14

Mr. Alvin Salge, who is the third district representative to the Veterans Services Advisory Committee will say a few words of introduction.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed21:25

Thank you so much, Board of Supervisors for making this award available to Dean Davich. He's a fantastic individual and he's a true hero and he's lived his whole life heroically even in the military. You saw on its resolution that he got a distinguished flying cross in Vietnam when he was flying the CH-46 supply helicopters for the Marine Corps And he was doing his check flight with a check pilot to become the aircraft commander.

And they took enemy fire and hit, and wounded the check pilot, and also damaged the aircraft. He recovered the aircraft and flew it carefully and safely back to base. So that's why he was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross. In his memoirs, he indicated that was a turning point in his life when he was no longer a student but a professional. So he took this on the rest of his life and later when he got back to the San Ynez Valley and the community whenever there was a need or an emergency in any of the social organizations, he took up their efforts And did an outstanding job to get them through their needs and help, and to establish them. He was just absolutely fantastic. And he's from there, he's lived there all his life.

And one particular note, example of his outstanding service to the community when the American Legion Post Had its officers vacate. They almost pulled the charter in the valley and what he did, he took on the officer of the treasurer and the finance officer to keep the post going. And also in my VFW post there in Solvang, he's our quartermaster which he does and adjutant which he does the same services So he's very dedicated and an outstanding individual.

I want to thank Supervisor Hartman for appointing me to the Veterans Advocacy Commission for the supervisors, and I've been to one mission meeting since. We always have things on our agenda. Our next agenda is to try to get a veterans website so any veteran in the county can go to the website and see where they can get help or whatever they need, and I also want to do a shout out for the Veterans Network That meets bimonthly and is hosted by visiting nurse in hospice care. And they bring all the organizations, the county federal nonprofits and national to help veterans in the county.

So thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed25:00

Well, thank you Alan and thank you Supervisor Hartman for selecting me as the first third district vet of the year. I can think of a few other people that I would have selected in front of me but I'm willing to accept this one and I accept it on behalf of all the thousands of vets in the county who served their country and returned home to lead productive lives I couldn't have imagined this happening 50 years ago when I first returned from Vietnam.

Guys getting out of the military then were lying about where they'd served because employers didn't want to hire somebody who might go off and do whatever. It was a bad time. Nowadays, almost every veteran or serviceman mentioned in the press has done something, some heinous crime So I'm thinking that this Vet of the Month award should go a long way toward counteracting that public image.

And I hope that this program continues for a long time. Thank you again.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role26:21

Supervisor Hartman?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed26:23

Thank you and I just wanted to acknowledge Chair Lavinino's efforts because he's the one who had this idea and we're very grateful to him for that.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role26:33

Thank you, all right well you definitely kicked it up a notch so next month is Supervisor Adams so we'll see what we come up with out of the 4th District. So

let's move to item A5

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed26:49

Chair Lavagnino and members of the board, item A5 is from the Board of Supervisors. It is to adopt a resolution of accommodation honoring Robert Cohen upon his retirement from the Clerk of the Board after over 32 years of dedicated service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County. And if I can have Robert to the podium?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed27:14

Can we have Robert's colleagues and the Clerk of the Board all come up please? That means you, Russ.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed27:25

Whereas Robert Michael Cohen migrated to California from New York to pursue his education and raise his young daughter Brooke. He attended Santa Barbara City College where he studied history and received his associate's degree in automotive technology. Robert then transferred to the University of California Santa Barbara receiving his bachelor's degree in liberal studies. And whereas Robert began his career with Santa Barbara County on March 27, 1987 where he was hired as a word processor one in purchasing department. In October of 1989 Robert transferred to the clerk of the board office as a board clerk one and was immediately recognized by his peers for his commitment to teamwork. Robert was given an advanced step appointment to Board Clerk 2 in September of 1990, was appointed as a board assistant specialist in December of 1991 and department assistant in October of 1998.

A departmental assistant senior in November 2005 and an administrative office professional expert in May of 2008. Whereas shortly after his move to the Clerk of the Board, Robert was tasked with the management of the County Assessment Appeals Program. Over the next 22 years he deftly and professionally conducted approximately 450 meetings at the assessment appeals boards including regular and organizational meetings as well as status conferences, pre-hearings, and regular hearings related to complex cases. These included some of the most labyrinthine in county history such as the legendary Exxon case that required several weeks of hearings alone And whereas Robert is a proud, loving and devoted father to his daughter Brooke and son-in-law Donnie and grandfather to Molly and Jasper who have given Robert bragging rights for being ambitious, intelligent, athletically accomplished and artistic individuals.

Robert is known by his coworkers as being altruistic, dedicating his life work to public service without any expectation of reward, all while spending his free time reading as many books as the library will let him check out at any given time making him a wealth of knowledge and an optimal trivial partner. And whereas Robert, a walker of legendary proportions has no problem taking off and walking 10-14 miles a day sometimes covering 100 miles a week in fact he once walked nearly 420 miles in one month While blazing new trails with Nacho, his faithful canine sidekick, he amasses a seemingly endless portfolio of photographs. His free-spirited nature is by no means discouraged when suspected of trespassing based on his appearance alone While he fulfills his goal to tread foot on every trail, street and path in the county.

Now therefore it is hereby ordered and resolved that the Board of Supervisors commends Robert Michael Cohen for his 32 years of faithful and distinguished service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County. And wishes him many more years of peaceful walks good health and happiness passed and adopted today.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed30:39

Okay, I'll go.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed30:47

Thank you members of the board for recognizing Robert today. I think the resolution really summed it all up that our clerk's office has an amazing ability to capture the stories within their resolutions so that was very, very well done. A couple more things and today I actually have the privilege of speaking about two extraordinary individuals in our clerks office and collectively they have served over 60 years With our county and the first step is obviously Robert weighing in at 32 years What our resolution doesn't reflect is this person is really our County historian informally You can walk down the halls walk into the clerk of soft edits at any time and say do you remember what happened back in? 2002 and what the board did And who will answer?

Robert. And then he'll remind us that they also did that in 1998 and by the way, and he'll give you the whole story. I'm going to miss that. He's a huge resource for us and he truly is a treasured member of our team in the clerk's office so we are truly going to miss him but we wish him the best of luck and really pursuing the best part of life with his grandkids. So we wish them the best.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed31:59

I'd like to thank the board and I actually worked under, I believe 21 supervisors. Five county administrative officers and just watched the county grow. I remember the early years. I watch the budget process now and the budget used to be big blocks of butcher paper taped to the wall Someone with a magic marker would put in all the numbers. And for any really old timers here, the county used to have eight inch floppy disks that was our storage device and I definitely like to thank my COB family.

Actually between me Mike and Russ we actually have 96 years of County work Jacqueline Chelsea, our newest member, Sheila. And I'd just like to thank the board for all these years and with all this technology now, I can still watch because I've read tens of thousands of board letters over the years and I'll probably keep on doing it. Thank you very much. Great.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role33:10

Madam Clerk, day six

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed33:12

Chair Lavinino, members of the board item A6 is from the Board of Supervisors. It is to adopt a resolution of accommodation honoring Russ Barker upon his retirement from the county executive office after over 31 years of dedicated service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County. If I can have Russ to the podium? Whereas Russell Glenn Barker migrated to California from Zanesville, Ohio after enlisting in the United States Air Force and was stationed at Vandenberg Air Force Base where he served with distinction until receiving his honorable discharge in 1987. And was described by his commanding officer as outstanding in all respects which included his duty as the project officer for the annual VAFB Golf Tournament.

And whereas Russ began his county service in February 1988 when he was hired as an elections technician in the Elections Division of the Clerk Recorder Assessor, where he served through numerous election cycles each time mobilizing an army of election night workers who ensured the smooth operation of dozens of polling places throughout the county. And whereas Russ joined the county executive office in January 1998 as a deputy clerk and immediately became an indispensable member of the Clerk of the Board team, assuming management of the public legislative record and other critical areas including the intake of tort claims. The intake and release of bonds related to monument deposits and subdivision maps and publication of the Santa Barbara County Code all of which he did with a smile.

And whereas, Rust was instrumental in the effort to digitize nearly 150 years worth of historical Board of Supervisors legislative records dating back to the inception of Santa Barbara County in 1850. All of which are now available to the public as Santa Barbara became the first California county to accomplish this massive feat of public engagement. And whereas, Russ is the epitome of public service. His daily routine commencing before dawn to charter commuters on the Clean Air Express and has committed his career to serving our community with a positive attitude, helpful nature and an extraordinary amount of kindness which is why he has been described by many as the kind of county employee they strive to be.

And whereas, Russ is known affectionately by his co-workers as Russy, Bossy Barker and Honey Bear Barker With a fondness of breakfast Oreos, which is only rivaled by his love of potatoes as demonstrated when dining with him at McDonald's for a hash brown or two. And whereas Russ personifies the term family man by always putting his wife Leanne and their four children Joseph, Rebecca, Bethany and Daniel before himself. And devoting his precious weekends to volunteering at church caring for his ever-growing number of pets and working on countless home projects all of which inspire his endless supply of puns known fondly as Russies.

And whereas Russ's extraordinary career has certainly led to his well-deserved retirement, which will allow him more time to work on his short game and fulfill his life goal of breaking 70. But his most exciting role yet begins in July 2019 with a title promotion to grandpa. Now therefore it is hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors commends Russ Barker for 31 years of faithful and distinguished service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County. And wishes him and his loving family many more years of good health and happiness passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed37:04

You're a little bit short. I think

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed37:06

I'm still small.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed37:51

Thank you again for recognizing one of our critical members of our team within the clerk's office. So weighing in at 31 years is Russ Barker, as the resolution mentioned he is one of the kindest most thoughtful and hardworking individuals I've ever had not only the pleasure to work with but ever meet. He does epitomize what customer service in Santa Barbara County is and should continue to be and he will be greatly missed Our clerk's office did a little math the other day and we came to a realization that during the time that Russ has been driving the Clean Air Express back and forth from Wampoag since 1998, right?

Okay. 99. Oh gosh my math is wrong then!

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role38:35

Change the math.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed38:36

Change the math quick. That's 660,000 road miles. Wow. So that will take you to the moon and back, and you still have about 160,000 miles left in change. Or you can travel back and forth to New York over 110 times. So I don't know what that results in in GHG emissions saved or cars off the road. A lot. It is significant, we could not do that math. Most importantly I just want to thank Russ for everything he has done for this county. He really sets the standard of service that we can all aspire to and as the resolution mentioned he's off to next his next adventure in grandparenting and we certainly wish him and his family all the best so thank you very much and here's Russ

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed39:30

Thank you Terry for those kind words and CEO's office. And I come this morning to with a heart of felt with joy and thankfulness, and first of all thank you Board Supervisors and Mr. Chair for adopting this resolution and for the creative writing skills from the Clerk of the Board's office! But you know, I come with joy not necessarily because I've crossed the finish line for the county but because as I reflect back over those 30 some years it takes me back to a time when I joined my high school track team and the coach put me in a long distance run. And I thought to myself can I make this? And after running about a mile I said I think this is a mistake. I don't think I can finish! Well when I started with the county back in 88, I went to the basement of the courthouse driving my car down.

Long days working in the elections office and after a week of traveling I said, I don't think I can make it. I really don't but going back to my track career short career, my coach was very smart he came along the edge of the track he stood by me and as I approached him he had a big smile and he said to me I could hear him keep running Russ keep running And so as I started with the county and the clerk of the board's office, and with the elections office, I encountered relationships and friends and my co-workers. I saw their dedication, I saw their commitment, and it was if they were saying to me keep running Russ, keep running!

And so I do want to mention a lot of names, but I have to mention Mike Allen because we were in the elections office together shoulder by shoulder working together and he left. Went to clerk at the board's office leaving me behind! I said Mike don't forget about me over here and so he rescued me helped pull me out of elections to join him where I've been now with him for 20 some years But I also want to thank my family, of course. My wife and my beautiful children that I just take so much pride in and they're such a gift to me. And so my family's here and they're encouraging words to me, they've stood beside me but also I'm compelled here at the inn to tell you about a person who has stood next to me all those years who has had his hand upon me and that's the Lord, the creator of heaven and earth.

He's had his hand upon me as I drove the Clean Air Express down Through the darkness and the fog in the morning to get here, to bring our county employees safely here. He's given me the gift of my clerk at the board friends. He has given me my relationships with the county employees and I treasure that. So all those good things, he is the source of all good things. So I stand here today very humbled and very pleased and awesome time with the county. Thank you so much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed42:12

So I just want to say a couple things and I have a little presentation, but I just want to first off start by saying that As sorry mentioned this is 30 31 and 32 years 63 years of County experience which is pretty incredible in its own right. It's pretty amazing it's been a wonderful journey to work with these guys and we all truly love each other in the office and I don't think anybody ever left the clerk of the board's office during this time Having dealt with Russ or Robert thinking to themselves that they didn't do everything They could to help them or to find what they were looking for And if they couldn't help them, they would find the person in the county organization that could do it. So They really embody the The spirit of public service and and they're just really two really great amazing guys.

So thanks For Robert, these are walking sticks. The guy at REI said these are good for 10,000 more miles. So these will help you blaze even more trails throughout the county, San Luis, Ventura and everywhere you go so thanks a lot. We had to customize this because we knew if we didn't that Fabrian would try and get it. So there's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed43:43

the Parker

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed43:47

for 31 years. Thank you so much.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role44:06

And I don't think it'll come as any shock to anybody that heard Russ speak, but the title for nicest person in the county is now open. Okay? So with you leaving, you leave a big hole and something that I think every county employee should try to live up to. Let's go to A7. Our last retirement for the day.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed44:30

Chair Lavinino, members of the board item A7 is from the Board of Supervisors. It is to adopt a resolution of accommodation honoring Diane Black upon her retirement from the Planning and Development Department after over 35 years of dedicated service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County. Whereas, Diane began her distinguished public service career with Santa Barbara County in 1984 as an intern and worked her way up the ranks in the planning and development department as a planner, supervisor-planner, deputy director of the energy division, assistant director in its several iterations, and director all while providing exemplary public service to the residents of Santa Barbara County for over 35 years.

And whereas, Diane professionally managed the adoption of numerous amendments and additions to the Santa Barbara County Comprehensive Plan, the Land Use and Development Code, and Coastal Zoning Ordinance. The processing of complex and controversial development projects, process improvement efforts, and multiple community emergency responses. Whereas, Diane has been a key player in coastal planning acting as a liaison with State Coastal Commission staff for county initiatives and as a leader on the Channel Island National Marine Sanctuary Advisory Council whereby she received their legacy award for 19 years of service. And whereas Diane is an expert in Santa Barbara County oil and gas development, I was requested to provide congressional testimony regarding the permitting of pipelines specifically automatic shutoff systems following the refugio oil spill on May 19th 2015.

And whereas Diane's absolute sense of rule and order required that the clutter in P&D conference rooms was avoided at all costs except by new staff who were unaware of Diane's obsession that all chairs must be matching and the room be neat and clean. And whereas Diane served as the Planning Commission Secretary for the County Planning Commission and the Montecito Planning Commission for 11 years, and her ability to maintain a level and calm demeanor during controversial public hearings was appreciated by the commissions and staff. Now therefore be it hereby order and resolve that this Board of Supervisors honors Diane Black for her 35 years of dedicated service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed47:39

Steward's out.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed48:04

So before we let Diane speak, 1984. Los Angeles hosted the Summer Olympic Games. Bishop Desmond Tutu was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. The Pretenders played at the UCSB's event center and the soap opera Santa Barbara with Robin Wright began its first season. In that year, a young woman, an intern by the name of Diane Meester began with the Planning and Development Department.

And since then she's had an illustrious career here as all of you know. In the last year she served as our Director of P&D upon the retirement of Dr. Glenn Russell. So today Diane we just want to thank you for your encyclopedic knowledge, your calm demeanor and professionalism even in the most heated political debates But I want to thank you mostly for your strength and your will, your accomplishments serving in one of the most difficult and challenging professions in local government. And especially here in Santa Barbara County. Thank you very much. We'll miss you and congratulations on your retirement.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed49:32

So thank goodness I didn't cry in every public hearing, I had to attend. This is a little...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed49:38

Those hearings sometimes make you want to do

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed49:41

it. I tried to wait until I got home and I wasn't always crying so um I apologize Mona and I were joking in the bathroom because she said oh my gosh you have to sit through like six resolutions before yours and you cry through everybody's resolutions! Sorry about that.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role50:01

Well, the over under was 30 seconds on your crime and you didn't make it so

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed50:06

Not sure who won but should have gone really low So Mr. Chair and members of the board this might be the last time I talk to you from this place Thank you for this resolution It's really been Uh, it's been an honor to serve San Robert County for the last 35 years. I'm grateful for such a meaningful career one where every day, every week, every year we're demanding and challenging while also being incredibly varied and personally rewarding.

I have a lot of people to thank for my time at the county. It starts with Anne Truman. I think her name is Lynn now Hiring Diane Meester, me, Diane Black now in the resource management department. Now planning development and John Patton who selected me to be as assistant director nearly 20 years ago. I also want to thank your board for having the confidence in me to run the department for the last year and to, um, it's going to be hard to Steve Mason And the rest of the management team who went the extra mile this past year when we didn't have a full executive team. So, we've been running one down for a year.

Special thanks to the staff in the department. They're a dedicated group of professionals who do their best every day working within a challenging and politically charged environment and they deserve all the credit for all the good work The department has produced and will continue to produce. This is short, so I'm almost done. And this one will be hard too.

Finally thanks to my husband David who's been my silent partner During the last 13 years of my career, he kept me going when things were tough. He took me to dinner. He let me yell. He did all sorts of things that fed me wine anything it took while things were tougher and I don't think I could have made it without him. So thank you again. I'll miss I'll miss this but I know the county in the department will continue to succeed because of your work and the great people in the planning and development Department so thank

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role53:24

Supervisor Hartman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed53:27

Thank you, they say that twenty percent of the work of the county is land use but eighty percent of the politics and that has fallen largely on your slender shoulders and you carried it with grace I worked with you on the planning commission and on the board and uh... you've always been so responsive and so knowledgeable Help me do my job better help the county be what it is today and we're going to miss you so much. Thank you for your service.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed54:08

Well I think that what's amazing is every time that I approached Diane whether it was on the city council or the legislature she kind of treated us like we were partners and Needed an answer and was an amazing informational resource. But I never got to see the details in such granular form until coming here and seeing your work. It is very, very... And I have to give it to all of the people in P&D. It is very hard work to address planning needs We do a ton of work, and sometimes my view with not enough resources to address our own internal contradictions as people of Santa Barbara.

As people who want to move forward but we're so attached to the way things were. And that's so difficult to navigate as a planner, and I just want to tell you that Dan, you've done an incredible job. And I take my hat off to you and respect you so much. Thank you so much.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role55:22

Yeah, I just will also say it should come with some sort of combat pay or something ahead of P&D. You've got this county is so Has so many different ideas about land use and everybody's willing to come forward and definitely let you know where they stand. And you've done an outstanding job of keeping an even keel, and just keeping us moving in the right direction. Your career spans two Lavininos, so my dad will always ask me like how's Diane Meester doing? So look forward to before there's another Lavinino, you get out of here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed56:06

Supervisor Hart. Well, this is really an extraordinary day with all the amazing county employees retiring at the same time but I personally have worked the longest with Diane and I have really always treasured her willingness to solve problems and to be optimistic and to think about a path through even the most difficult circumstances. And I think of myself as an optimistic person but Diane has a job that requires optimism at a different level And we're just really proud of the work that you've done for the county, and we will miss you. And see you around town with this big smile on your face.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role56:40

Congratulations. Madam Clerk before we move on I did want to normally we don't go through our honorary resolutions aren't going to be presented at the board but And honor some other county employees that are leaving. Daniel Reed is leaving after 29 years in public health. We have Sheriff Deputy Christopher Dallenback, leaving after 21 years. Sergeant Mark Allen Williams is leaving the sheriff's office after 21 years and Senior Deputy Probation Officer April Irving is leaving after 20 years from the probation department so we also want to congratulate them wish them well in their retirements as well.

All right, that takes us to the rest of the administrative agenda. I think we did have one public comment. There's a few public comments. Is there anything that the board members? I would like to pull item A34. Does anybody have anything else that they would like to pull from the administrative agenda? Seeing none is there anything from the public that is being pulled?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed57:51

Chair Lavinino, members of the board. Yes we have three requests to speak on this morning's administrative agenda A7, A29 and A34.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role58:01

Okay let's start with A7 then.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed58:04

Chair Lavinino, members of the board, A7 has already been read into the record and our speaker is Lee Moldaver.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role58:12

Good morning

PresenterLee MoldaverCitizens Planning Association 59 years young and still growing and when you lookProposedself-stated58:15

Morning Mr. Chair, members of the board. I'm Lee Moldaver speaking today on behalf of the Citizens Planning Association 59 years young and still growing and when you look at grassroots community engagement with the public process You're trying to find out what is about to happen with local government. You're trying to find out and understand what has happened with local government So often, the answer to those questions are people like Robert Cohen and Mike Allen and Russ Barker who can tell you what's on the agenda and when to come and what it means and how long do you have this talk.

But if you're interested in Santa Barbara County and its land and its businesses and its resources, and you examine the breadth of Diane Black's career When she first started, we really were a small rural county and they used to say at CSAC meetings when your predecessors would go that Santa Barbara isn't the tail trying to wag the dog. We are a flea on the tail.

Of trying to wag the dog, because in a state that's almost 40 million people now. I think the next census will probably show that we're at 460-470,000 and yet The diverse issues that planning and development has to deal with under Diane's time, rural and agricultural design, housing, affordability, planning, natural resources, environment. On and offshore energies, minerals, transport, vision for the future.

Farming, ranching, the wine industry overlaid on that, the cannabis industry as you know overlaid on top of that. Dealing with a semi-autonomous foreign nation that's main business is legalized gambling. Trying to work with state agencies like the Coastal Commission, or top down mandates like accessory dwelling units. Trying to work with small federal neighbors like Vandenberg Air Force Base and Los Padres National Forest at Lake Kachuba.

Diane's door has always been open. To almost anyone in the public who came with a real question or with basic goodwill to try to move the ball forward. And that was true when she was an entry level planner, that was true as assistant director, deputy director, interim acting director. It's true right up until her comments for departure. And on behalf of the Citizens Planning Association, I want to say thank you to Diane and everyone in P&D. And to Russ and to Robert, they show county service at its very best.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:01:20

Very good. What do

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:01:29

we got next?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:01:30

Chair Lavagnino, members of the board. Next we have item A29 this is from the Sheriff's Department it is to consider recommendations regarding the fourth quarter and annual 2018 Medical Grievance Oversight Coordinator reports and we have Suzanne Worden here

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed1:01:56

Good morning chair and members of the board. And I'm really happy to report that a pretty extraordinary thing happened a few years ago when from the grassroots, from a group of individuals who have had to spend time in the jail and a group of parents of individuals who had to spend time in the jail many of whom had serious mental health conditions came the idea out of a tremendous suffering actually Came the idea of having a new position created of Jail Health Grievance Coordinator to help improve the quality of medical, mental health, dental services rendered to inmates in our jail. And I think as everyone in our society now knows The jail was not created to house so many people with very serious complex health conditions, particularly mental health conditions.

And because of a number of things that have happened in our society in the last few decades including the closing of mental hospitals, a huge portion of the people who are in our jail today, who sit in our jail today are there because of a mental health problem and the lack of mental health services, particularly residential treatment services for them. And it's an incredible tragedy but until we fix this complex problem we have to treat people better in our jail. This has come about in Santa Barbara thanks to your decision and thanks to the idea that came out at the grassroots and thanks to the really good judgment of Sheriff Brown who picked a man who is the perfect person Really to help head this up, Mark Mahurin. Some amazing things are happening and the jail health grievance coordinator Mark Mahurin has been meeting monthly with a number of members of the community on a committee to review the grievances that are coming from the inmates relating to their healthcare.

So I want to give you, to remind you those who were here earlier and to give the new members of the board a little bit of background on how this came about. And to congratulate the county for having approved this idea and there's still work to be done we've accomplished an incredible amount thanks It's Mark Mahern and some of the individuals who work in the jail, in particular Lieutenant Shawn Lammer. I mean they have gone way beyond the call of duty taking calls on the weekends going to the cell of an individual inmate to check on what's going on and to see if they can resolve the problem.

And now what we'd like to see is, we'd like to address the problem of people who are so mentally ill that they're in an isolation cell for weeks or months or years at a time in our little jail waiting for some kind of mental health treatment. Waiting for the court's long process to resolve the situation. And some of them are so ill they cannot figure out how to file a grievance. So we'd like to meet with the jail chief, Vincent Waslewski and see if we can come up with a way to help these individuals that I think at last count more than half of the inmates in our jail. Had had an interaction with the mental health department. So we've got a really big problem to resolve and many, many of these individuals are sitting in isolation cells and are just unfortunately still falling through the cracks.

So I'm looking forward to being able to address that particular problem in a really creative way and come up with a solution that will be a good one to help care for their needs. And we hope that in the few years we can stand here And say, and look back on this unfortunate situation. And have considered it a thing of the past because we have a whole host of good residential treatment centers and good treatment for people with mental health problems.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:06:04

Thank you very much for being here. I think you can walk away with a smile because it was your team advocating and pushing. And I remember, I was a little hesitant because I was proven wrong that it actually did work. And so I want to thank you for continuing to push and be the squeaky wheel.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed1:06:26

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:06:33

And I might add that if she's not going to stick around, that she might tune in to the capital projects later because obviously some of the capital projects would address some of these issues as well at Main Jail. And that's the final D item for today. All right. Madam Clerk?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:06:53

Chair Lavinino and members of the board, our next item is from the Board of Supervisors, Supervisor Williams and Supervisor Hartman It is item A34 to consider recommendations regarding a proposed advocacy support position on HR 279 Carbajal, California Clean Coast Act of 2019. And we have two requests to speak on this item. We are first going to go to Santa Maria for Andy Caldwell and return back here in Santa Barbara for Tom Becker. Andy?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed1:07:22

Chair Labadino, members of the board before I address this, Colab has been around for nearly 30 years, and we've worked with all of the people that retired. And we joined the board in commending them for their years of public service. In any way I wanted to say that. With regard to this item, I think the board needs to seriously consider that if you adopt this item are you not prejudicing yourself against some of the land use decisions? That you're going to need to be making in the next year or so.

As you know, when people come before you they are not supposed to be coming before a political body that is positioning itself on issues. You're supposed to be fair and impartial and not have a bias. And I think this statement basically serves to ban banning all offshore oil and gas production facilities including related activities Would serve as a it to prejudice on future applicants before your board.

The other thing is you need to make a choice, this shouldn't be on the admin calendar. You need to make a policy choice. Well if we're going to ban offshore oil does that mean we're going to support onshore oil? Are you going to ban offshore oil and onshore oil, in which case you support importing all our oil? Which is it? The public has a right to know which is it.

Onshore, offshore or imported, or none of the above. Which means we're not gonna use asphalt anymore for our roads. We're not going to just get rid of this next item later today, X percent of our vehicles that are gas powered. We're going to get rid of all of them including the diesel engines at the dump, the trucks, the emergency vehicles that are not even on the table later today.

When Mike Stoker and Tom Rogers used to get into it there used to be this phrase fish or cut bait. You guys want to be half pregnant. You're either in desperation mode that the planet's going to be done with in ten years because of greenhouse gases and we need to act immediately and decisively, or you want to have it both ways? You want to cut the easy stuff like for instance not banning your employees from driving to work like the Chumash do using asphalt for your parking lots not checking the box On the PG&E bill in the North County that you want 100% renewable, not switching to all hybrid or I mean all electric vehicles throughout your fleet.

And putting stuff like this on the admin calendar without determining where will consumers get their oil and gas products? Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:10:41

Chair Lavinino, members of the board we're going to return here for Tom Becker.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed1:10:45

Yeah, thank you. I submitted a document to you and this my document is public comment on the scope of the Plains All-American Pipeline And here's my issue on that. You cannot consider the issues of the Plains All-American Pipeline Rebuild without also considering offshore oil and gas. You have got to consider offshore oil and gas development, including the new BOEM five year program. You've got to put two of them together.

They're inseparable, and you must consider both of them together during the EIR for the Plains All-American Pipeline. Now here's a letter that your P&D sent to the BOEM as part of public comment. Now in my comment, I said you people need to answer questions completely and truthfully. Don't give us this crap about oh we've read your comment that's not sufficient. You have to give us details when you answer questions as part of environmental impact reports for relevant questions.

Here's a letter that your P and D department sent to BOEM, and I'm going to read something from POD. They're considering talking about how the BOEM doesn't do a good job of reviewing projects. It says considering the amount of analysis conducted in the Santa Barbara region for extending development existing development The EIS could easily contain detailed analysis of this area and avoid general vague analysis about the program as a whole. So in other words, your plan has almost got a good idea. Let's take the detailed analysis that county should be doing as the EIR for the planes and submit that to BOEM as a detailed analysis of offshore oil and gas.

Now, the one thing I find interesting and one of the questions I did ask for the scoping is how did you people figure out that it was safe to hook up the Venicle pipeline to Pipeline 901? Here's my question. One of them of 26 questions. Was County P&D aware that Plains Pipeline 901 did not have an automatic shutoff valve system when county government permitted the Venicle Pipeline project which connected to Line 901 Well the lady who was responsible for determining whether or not that was safe, Diane Black is retiring.

Don't you think you want to keep her on long enough so she can give testimony as part of the Plains Pipeline as to what the county did On that project to demonstrate maybe the county doesn't think in the best interest of the people by allowing more oil into a pipeline that they consider to be unsafe. A lot of questions, you should answer them. Answer the questions completely and truthfully.

Even the Environmental Defense Center said you guys do a sucky job back in the ERG thing back at Planning Commission last week. They said you guys don't answer questions. Your staff doesn't answer questions. Even the Environmental Defense Center says you people don't answer questions properly. There's a real problem, you need to answer questions and truthfully thank you.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:14:07

All right so I pulled 834 for a separate vote this has come before us a couple of times in April of 2017 on this bill in a previous life form In 2017 and then again in January 30th of 2018. It was Santa Barbara County's opposition to expand oil and gas drilling off our coast. I'm just pulling it, we'll take a separate vote. My personal feelings about it is we want to through this bill, I think what we're saying is We want to remove the production but I think as Andy spoke before me but We want to get rid of the production, but we want to still use the products.

And so as long as we still want asphalt, we still want to fly around in airplanes. We're still using the trucks and the cars that make this country's economy the greatest in the world until we have a viable answer to that. I think it's premature to end any production. So, it just seems strange to me that we end the production but we want to keep using the products. So I'll be voting no, but I'll be willing to take a motion and move this item. Supervisor Williams?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:15:24

I'll make that motion. But you know, I understand that criticism from you and Andy on this and while I consider the right position to have that we should be not increasing offshore oil drilling, we should not allow the federal government increase offshore oil drilling and we should be transitioning away from oil. You are right to point out that requires a real economic shift on the part of the people of this county And as wildly popular as this resolution and bill is, if you ask the average Santa Barbaran they will all agree that this is the position we should have.

I personally believe that no one should support this if they're not willing to make some reduction of the amount of vehicle miles they travel or a reduction through purchase of a more fuel efficient car, or an electric car for that matter. Inconsistency in what we believe and what we do day-to-day is a really important issue. And so while I think that this is really necessary to pass, in order to tell the federal government no, we don't want more offshore oil drilling off our coast, I do also agree with you that we need to back that up with our Personal conduct as human beings and as consumers.

Thank you, Supervisor Hartman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:17:13

Thank you this board has a long history as does this county of opposing new drilling offshore in either federal waters or state waters I think this is more compelling than ever before because of the recent reports about the impacts of global warming And the young generation now standing up and saying, it's our future. And you've got to make decisions to protect our future. I don't want to be on the wrong side of history and I'm second this and am very supportive of this. And we have other items on our agenda coming forward that will give us an opportunity to act in accord with this.

It's something that needs all hands on deck at the federal at the state and the local and individual levels So we all need to make a commitment And so we're going to start later. I hope in today's agenda

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed1:18:05

Okay, Supervisor Hart Yeah, I agree with my colleagues. This has been a long standing position of the city of Santa Barbara and I think the residents of the county as well we all aspire to a greener more environmentally friendly energy policy at the national level It requires taking these kinds of hard stands to stop additional new offshore oil development and create an economy that is pointing toward cheaper, more affordable, more accessible products for everyone who'd like to make those choices. There are people who We can't afford to make some of these choices that are doing other things to contribute to reducing greenhouse gas emissions through their personal use of their vehicle, through their different lifestyle choices. But this is a collective choice of a significant public policy choice at the federal level and at the state level that I think it's important for us to represent our constituents voice in making that large public policy statement.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:19:04

Agree with everything that's been said. Just want to point out, I think what Supervisor Williams touched on though. That for the average person that wants to hold the sign and walk around and say, I'm doing my part because I'm holding a sign. To do these types of things, to basically eliminate production means making a huge change in sea change in what we do.

And that means A lot of inconveniences that I'm not sure people are willing to sign up for. But, I might be wrong and so let's take a vote on... Well, I think we have a motion and a second? Okay. Motion is seconded. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? And the motion passes 3-1. Okay. Can I get a motion to approve the balance of the administrative agenda please?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:20:01

So moved.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:20:03

Moved and seconded all those in favor aye any opposed passes unanimously. We're ready to let's do let's take D1 because we're going to have a break after oh public comment. Public comment for matters not on the agenda today

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:20:19

chair Levin you know I'm members of the board we have one request to speak on general public comment today and that's Ed Kolaski Ed

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 23Proposed1:20:37

Good morning. For the last five years or a little more, I've been trying to remodel our house. We have the second story located over the dining room, the garage kitchen and laundry room. Alex Pujo ruled that it is solely over the garage therefore it's in violation of guideline 4.7. Clearly it is not. I don't know why we have to deal with this nonsense. I don't know why we have to deal with one person, a single person downstairs who has control over my life.

Why couldn't our project be presented to all seven members? Why couldn't we get a distinct answer not this nonsense that it's solely over the garage when it's not solely over the garage? Is it a question that'll be solely over the garage until we make an extortion payment? Is that the whole purpose of this run around? And around and around, and nobody's in charge.

You know I talked to our previous supervisor in the second district Janet Wolf before the meeting before the final rule ruling here after which I could not talk to her she had an aide come out no no no don't let him speak You know the First Amendment is pretty distinct, but you can clearly see that they were unaware that we would have such a supervisor as Janet Wolfe.

You know they talk about freedom of speech and religion and then if you have a problem petition the government and they'll correct it. It's hideous here in this day and age. They didn't account for people taking money under the table. A concept that they had apparently learned. And I don't know if Alex can't tell the difference between the garage and the kitchen and dining room and living room?

Then he's not qualified, he shouldn't be there! Who else has to go through this? I know many people have gone through this with Alex because my neighbors have told me over and over again. And one always rings in my ear because it was so astounding when I first started, had to sign out in the yard He says, Ed, you know, you and I will both be dead before you get approval.

Because he knew. And the neighbor across the street, I wouldn't dare bring him in here because his view of our leader in the Second District at the time was not printable that's for sure. I thought this was supposed to be a democracy? This isn't a democracy. That's why I got on my shirt here The Democratic Republic of Santa Barbara. It's just like North Korea.

Yeah, go ahead and make your decision do whatever you want to do. You could be dead the next day. And that's where I've been for the last five years. Our county did present a report 64 pages telling me do not locate your second story solely over the garage. It is not solely over the garage. How do you comment on that? I was going to play four seconds here. Mr.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:23:53

Golaski, your time is over 20 seconds.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 23Proposed1:23:55

Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm going to play four seconds here if this will come out. I don't know if it'll... So the only

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:24:07

garage which is in... I didn't have a certain payout collection.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:24:16

That's your time. Thank you. We have another public comment?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:24:21

Chair Levenino, members of the board yes we had one more request to speak Tom Becker.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed1:24:30

Thank you Tom Becker as I'm sure most of you are aware the US EPA and U.S. Federal Highway Administration Trump administration is seeking to change the vehicle mileage standards for federal vehicle mileage and also seeking to eliminate California's emission waiver I've submitted through Cars for Basic a detailed analysis of that back to the Federal Highway Administration, EPA six months ago.

But in addition to the Federal Highway Administration being involved and the State of California has threatened to sue the EPA Federal Highway Administration, in fact I think they have already filed a suit Now this is an interesting thing. Currently the California Air Resources Board is looking at a program called the Zero Emission Shuttle Bus, Airport Shuttle Bus and this was a very interesting program they have because this is the first time that the California government is forcing people to buy electric vehicles. This is the first program that they're doing that on so I made comment myself You know what my comments are? My comments are questions that the state of California and this county government, specifically SBK, have refused to answer in environmental documents.

Just plain out refused. Remember my comments earlier about how your staff doesn't answer questions? It has been criticized for that. You need to answer questions. So does California Air Resources Board, but there's one thing I want to point out There is one false statement that is repeated by people That 10% of the vehicles in the state of California are zero emission vehicles. That's a lie It's less than 1%.

A zero emission vehicle is a vehicle that doesn't have an engine in it, period. Hybrids don't count as zero emission vehicles. It would either be a vehicle solely powered by batteries or in very rare instances a hydrogen fuel cell. Less than one percent Of the vehicles registered in this state are zero emission. And that's after a massive campaign of zero emissions going back or trying to get zero emission vehicles, going back to the original zero emission vehicle mandate in 95-96. 80% of the vehicles that are battery powered are Tesla's.

I close this public comment.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:27:38

All right, now we move to our departmental agenda item. Department agenda item one. Madam Clerk?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:27:44

Chair Lavanino and members of the board, departmental item number one is from the county executive office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding extra help services and retirement waiver for the chief deputy clerk of the board position.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:27:58

Ms. Mosnisch.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:27:59

Good morning Chair LaVanita, members of the board. Our Chief Deputy Clerk for the Board Mike Allen will be retiring as of March 22nd from his position. While we are pursuing a recruitment at this time there are still several critical duties that we need to address during that period. That includes record retention work ongoing work in that area as well as continued work on our assessment appeals tracking and hearings as well as general office oversight.

Our recommendations for you today are that in accordance with the government code, that you certify that the appointment of the soon-to-be retired county employee Michael Allen is necessary to fill a critical need in the Clerk of the Board Division of the County Executive Office. And then also that you approve and authorize the county executive officer to appoint Michael Allen effective March 25th as an extra help employee to provide the administrative support I outlined on a part-time basis not to exceed 960 hours of annual service. And then finally, of course our CEQA recommendations. So that concludes my report. Do

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:29:04

we have any public comment?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:29:06

Chair Lavinino and members of the board, we have no request to speak on this item. And I would also like to note as Terry Mosnisch has mentioned, we did post an addendum on Friday amending the recommendation action B which is effective March 25th 2019. Okay can I

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:29:25

get a motion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:29:25

Supervisor Williams. Move staff recommendation. Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:29:29

Moved and seconded. All those in favor? Aye. Anybody opposed? Passes unanimously. That moves us to Commission for Women, item number two.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:29:41

Chair Lavinino and members of the board, departmental item number two is from Community Services. It is a hearing to receive and file the Commission for Women's 2019 Women's History Month Service Awards presentation. And I would also like to note there will be a reception to follow item number two in the Board of Supervisors conference room.

CommentAnna EverettProposedself-stated1:29:59

Good morning I'd like to have my sister commissioners please join me. As we prepare for this wonderful celebration good morning everybody my name is Anna Everett and I am the chair. Can

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:30:14

you come every week give us that greeting because that would make our week every

CommentAnna EverettProposedself-stated1:30:21

Thank you so much Supervisor Williams. So I'm Anna Everett, I am the chair and commissioner for district, for the second district and Greg Hart has inherited us and we're happy to be representing him but we have something really special going on today among the work that we do on behalf of your supervisors is to consult with you about who in our community are deserving And need to be recognized for their service within the community.

However, prior to our sort of making these wonderful presentations to these deserving individuals, I do want to introduce all of my fellow commissioners. Judy Weisbart, Suzanne Peck, Karen Steinwax, Mary Ann Partridge, Tracy Beard and Yvette Peralta. And they will each be presenting to an individual and a group for their outstanding service for us. But I wanted to give you just a little bit of background on the import of this particular award ceremony. First of all, I just want to let you know that the recognition of women's history and contribution to society began way back in March of 1911, when several European nations formally decided to recognize women in March. And that established the International Women's Day. Then in 1978, California's Education Task Force of the Sonoma County Commission on the Status of Women first pioneered a celebratory week of women in history to coincide with this international recognition.

Three years later, in 1981 the United States Congress went a step further by passing a resolution establishing a National Women's History Week And then participation quickly spread and in 1987 Congress expanded the designated week to a month-long commemoration, which is what we're enjoying today, Women's History Month. Yay! So many outstanding local organization and advocates for women and girls in need continue on a regular basis. To recognize, honor and celebrate the achievements of these organizations. The County of Santa Barbara Commission for Women established the women's history month service awards in honor of women's history month. The commission for women annually celebrates these contributions of women and groups who make everyday commit, I'm sorry, contributions to better the lives of our communities so With that, I want to hand over to each of our commissioners the honor of bestowing these well-deserved awards.

And we really look forward to having a photo op with the individual supervisors as these awards are passed on. So thank you.

PresenterJudy WeisbartFirst DistrictProposedself-stated1:33:24

Thank you, Anna. My name is Judy Weisbart and I am with the First District. Thank you DAS for appointing me and for allowing me to play this role in our community. I'm going to read from these wonderful resolutions and I'm going to start with the organization in the first district and would ask for Kate Carter and those on the board of Life Chronicles to come up Thank you.

Whereas for 21 years, Life Chronicles and Kate Carter have promoted communications comfort and healing by creating life legacy videos for people diagnosed with serious illnesses as well as elders who are facing the end of life allowing them to do so with dignity integrity and respect. And whereas Life Chronicles has filmed over 1700 families in over 40 states and 23 cities, it says 323 but I don't- It is 323? Okay. It's 323 across the US as well as London and Canada. Live Chronicles has experienced many stories from families going through crisis. This work has allowed Kate to spend hours filming the thoughts and experiences of many local luminaries those affected by the Isla Vista shootings and those affected by the Montecito debris flow. And whereas to include the community, Life Chronicles has developed relationships with a variety of organizations, companies and student volunteers working towards together in a common goal of helping those in times of life's crisis.

And whereas Live Chronicles which began simply as a way to preserve memories has grown into a remarkable way to bring healing and connection to families and loved ones throughout the globe who are facing the end of life. Now, therefore we hold this order and resolve from the Supervisors of Santa Barbara County. Thank you to Live Chronicles. Would you say something? Yeah, yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed1:36:01

I'd like to say thank you to the board. I realize I was sitting here having done 1,700 videos more than 1,700 in the last 21 years is about nowhere I go where I don't experience someone who we served and I certainly know that Supervisor Hart's family was served when we filmed his father-in-law which was quite an experience and amazing World War II vet. Former supervisor Janet Wolfe, we filmed both of her parents before they passed and her daughter Kimmy was one of our really wonderful interns.

We really felt strongly when the debris flow happened that the way we could contribute was to when we learned that there were people that we had lost, that we could contribute to helping that whole crisis by having friends and family tell stories of those people who passed to preserve a memory of them so that they will be remembered for how they lived and not how they died.

And I just want to thank everyone for appreciating what we do and honoring us this way. Thank you so much.

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PresenterJudy WeisbartFirst DistrictProposedself-stated1:37:04

And now for our individual from the first district, there's a resolution honoring Allison Hardy whereas Allison Hart oh Allison will you come up? We need the person Whereas Alison Hardy, owner of Janine's Restaurant and Bakery has been a part of the fabric of Santa Barbara known for building a vibrant community through food. And whereas Allison believes in community and has always supported others in consistently demonstrating her vision passion for her employees, her patrons and the community during times of harmony and turmoil. And whereas Allison being set back like many other local businesses due to the 1-9 debris flow offered free morning treats and drinks from her business Janine's Restaurant & Bakery on Coast Village Road In an effort to help the community recover a bit of normalcy into their lives and whereas following the debris flow Janine's restaurant and bakery served as a safe familiar space for neighbors To garner and engage stories and most importantly offer words of hope and support to one another therefore Be to hereby order this resolved from the County of Santa Barbara.

Thank you for your work.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed1:39:01

I just want to thank the board and all the first responders, the firefighters that taught me how to do it. They were coming into Janine's during the fires and we started getting to know them. It was, I think it was 25 days. Of fires or something like that and so we got to know what it's like to help our community through watching them. And so when the debris flow came I had been trained by all the firefighters and so I knew you needed to do something and this community has been so good to Janine's all these 30 years, it was our turn to get back.

So thank you so much for recognizing that I really appreciate it.

PresenterSuzanne Peck2nd District Commissioners DrProposedself-stated1:39:51

Good morning, Supervisors and Madam CEO. I'm Suzanne Peck and on behalf of the 2nd District Commissioners Dr. Anna Everett and Sigrid Wright we have two resolutions that we'd like to offer today and rather than read both of them is it alright if I summarize? So I'd like to invite Suzanne Grimacy and the Community Wellness Team up Thank you for waiting. Okay.

The team, the community wellness team was established right after the debris flow. And they have been working tirelessly ever since to provide crisis counseling, school support, individual group family counseling, grief counseling, helping so many people in our community to heal, to build resilience, to get us through this really challenging time. The team is led by the Santa Barbara County Department of Behavioral Wellness, and it's a model of collaboration. More than 13 agencies came together as part of this team. The Institute for Collective Trauma and Growth co-chaired with Suzanne Grimacy, the Red Cross, Hope 805, Jewish Family Services, the Mental Wellness Center, Hospice of Santa Barbara, Cottage Health, the Sheriff's Department, the School District, Community School of Montecito and Santa Barbara all working together to support wellness and resilience.

The FEMA-funded California HOPE 805 program has played a key part in ongoing community outreach, crisis counseling and education. But I'm sad to say that that funding ends next month, April of 2019 Nevertheless, they persist and the community wellness team will remain available as a resource and support for our community. Information can be found on the ReadySBC.org website. And this critically important work and really key important model of collaboration has been led and inspired by Suzanne Grimacy who's our Chief Quality Care and Strategy Officer for the County Department of Behavioral Wellness.

Our heartfelt thanks, respect, admiration and appreciation to Suzanne Grimacy and this amazing team.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 25Proposed1:43:02

Thank you chair. Thank you members of the board, thank you Suzanne and the Women's Commission. As Suzanne shared yes after the Thomas fire and the debris flow there were a number of organizations and people that wanted to help and we all knew that the level Need that our support our community deserved and we believe needed couldn't be Tended to by one organization alone. So this team formed and while I appreciate the recognition it does not go to me It goes to only some of the representatives standing behind me I really believe a good team doesn't come together by accident it comes together by hard work and commitment And harmonizing towards a common goal, and communication where people can share ideas and opinions. Where there's inherent trust among all members on the team.

And this team has really shown that, and I'm proud to be a part of it. And I thank you so much for recognizing the community wellness team.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed1:44:10

Supervisor Hart? Yeah, I'd just like to say how very proud I am of the Department of Behavioral Wellness and Suzanne and her leadership. And the full team, the community wellness team. This is such another great example of our community coming together in so many different ways and reaching out to help each other. That's really all, the most important thing that we have as a community is our sense of concern and compassion and caring for other people. And the fact that you're taking your time out of your busy schedules and To help others is the highest calling that we can all achieve. And so thank you very, very much for your work.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:44:53

Supervisor Williams? I just wanted to on behalf of the many people of the first district whose lives that you guys touched want to just thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 26Proposed1:45:25

Good morning, I think it's still morning. The third district is proud to present some candidates for service awards to you. Good morning supervisors, especially Supervisor Hartman. The agricultural community has a backbone of women who are often quietly giving back to the community with little fanfare and recognition. Their purpose is not fame or fortune but rather nurture.

This year the Women's Commission for the Third District sought to present two out of the many organizations and In the ag sector for some well-deserved credit and our gratitude. Are the ladies from the therapeutic course, over here? Still here? Come on down. So our organization we chose to award this service award to this year is the San Ynez Valley Therapeutic Riding Program.

And we have here with us today Robin and Kathy. I'm just going to read the resolution if that's okay. This is such a cool organization that just uses the power of horses to really help people. So whereas for 28 years, the San Ynez Valley Therapeutic Riding Program has provided equine assisted activities to children and adults with physical, cognitive, social, emotional or other life challenges regardless of their ability to pay.

And whereas due to their professionalism and inclusive programs, the San Ynez Valley Therapeutic Riding Program has been granted the highest national rating through PATH, the Professional Association of Therapeutic Horsemanship. And whereas through the healing power of horses, the San Ynez Valley Therapeutics Riding Program spreads joy and hope to local people with special needs.

And whereas the San Yenez Valley Therapeutic Riding Program serves over 70 students each week And more than 300 children and adults annually with special needs in their riding, veteran and mental health programs. And whereas the San Ynez Valley Therapeutic Riding Program was founded and is currently run by thoughtful women volunteers who exemplify our valley's agricultural caring roots. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors declares the San Ynez Valley Therapeutics Riding Program as the third district commission for women service award recipients.

Here she comes.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:48:15

I just wanted to say that I've had personal experience with a little girl who benefited from this program. Severely disabled, had never spoken and not even smiled. The first smile came on that horse it was in the newspaper and it was a little girl I knew so it's wonderful work

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 27Proposed1:48:40

Thank you, Supervisor Hartman. And thank you to Marianne and Tracy and Karen for this honor. We were so surprised we're so little and so honored by this recognition. And like you guys said, we're just we're so happy to be able to spread joy through horses and help people that have a little more challenges than the rest of us have a better life. So thank you for this.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 28Proposed1:49:07

I just want to say real quick, I was hoping Supervisor Adam was here today because we actually have one of his horses as our therapy angels. He thought enough of us to lease his beautiful Nick who's a buckskin quota horse and one of my personal favorites to the program and he's a wonderful supporter of our fundraisers in August that we do towards scholarships for our students so thank you very much for this recognition.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 26Proposed1:49:40

Our individual recipient this year is Tekla Sanford. Come on down, Tekla! So in the ag sector over there in the valley, wine growing is actually part of agriculture. It's more than a product it is actually farming more than anything else as we have experienced through this lovely spring of nurturing rains and other stuff. So Tecla is one of those unsung heroes. There's a lot of attention that has been Bestowed on Sanford but Tecla's sometimes quietly, sometimes not so quietly in the background.

So whereas Tecla Sanford has devoted 40 years of her life in Santa Barbara County to the advancement of sustainable agricultural practices focusing on the importance of healthy soils to mitigate climate change through the regenerative farming agricultural movement and whereas in 1985 Tecla Sanford spearheaded the establishment of an organic vineyard at Rancho El Jabali That would protect the health of the soil, the vines, the surrounding habitat and the employees working in the fields. Resulting in the first CCOF certification in Santa Barbara County.

And whereas along with two like minded women in 1992 Tecla Sanford founded We Watch to protect the rural character of our beautiful San Ynez Valley. And whereas Tecla Sanford continues in her mission of sustainability, having served on the advisory boards of the Santa Cruz Island Foundation, the Santa Barbara County Land Trust and the Wilding Museum. And whereas Tecla Sanford has sponsored, presented and hosted hundreds of events throughout the United States and the world to promote the wines of Santa Barbara County.

Now therefore it be hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors of Santa Barbara Declares Tecla Sanford as the 3rd District Commission for Women's Service Award recipient.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 29Proposed1:52:05

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:52:38

And I can't resist a few words. Tecla Sanford is the maternal figure, the hub really or compassion in the Santa Ynez Valley revolves around her efforts and her heart and it's been just a pleasure to know her and work with her and so glad the Women's Commission has honored her today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 30Proposed1:53:06

I'm not used to speaking in front of a lot of people, but I want to thank Joan and Karen and Mary Ann for the Women's Commission and the Board of Supervisors for recognizing me by honoring my passion and my lifetime commitment to what is now a new paradigm for farming, regenerative agriculture. Very excited about the potential Regenerative agriculture, bringing hope to our planet by helping to mitigate the effects of climate change, soil health and the people's health. And therefore, the planet itself. Thank you very much for this honor. I really appreciate it.

It really has been my passion my whole life and to be honored for it is very special. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed1:54:23

Hi, I come to you as Tracy Beard as a commissioner for Santa Barbara County. I represent the third district and soon to represent Mr. Lavanino in the fifth. I've been a long serving commissioner and I am very pleasantly happy to honor Crystal Sullen of the court appointed special advocate of CASA. As our woman and also as our. Program for the 4th district, and I'm going to tell you from my heart as opposed to reading this what I know about.

Crystal crystal work diligent hours she has worked nonstop to make sure the appointments of the Lompoc office has been opened they have. Recruited over. 500 advocates over the last few years. It is hard to be an advocate and she does a diligent job of recruiting advocates. Close to 97% of our children have been served right now with CASA, with advocates. She has spent diligent hours working with the infants in Lompoc for many years now to make sure they all have a special home and a special place.

And we did a leadership conference, the Women's Commission did it, and Crystal made sure and Casa was at every one of our programs to make sure they were served. And that means a lot to this Women's Commission and to our county. So I can't pick a better person, Peter Adams couldn't have picked a better person and the women that serve for us it was unanimous to have Crystal as an honoree and CASA as...and we've all been touched by CASA in every one of our districts so I want to say thank you and on behalf and the adoption let's bring her up and honor her.

And Kim Davis of CASA

PresenterKim ColbyCasa and I knowProposedself-stated1:56:36

I'm Kim Colby days and I'm the executive director of Casa and I know. You are familiar with CASA, and Supervisor Hartman has served honorably as a CASA volunteer. So she knows firsthand it's not the easiest volunteer opportunity that you can come across. Years ago I recruited Crystal as a CASA volunteer herself and she served with great distinction on her case.

And I knew almost immediately that she was the right person to help grow the agency and lead us forward To where we are today, where we serve pretty much every child that the court asks us to serve. And that is without a doubt in large part to the work that Crystal does as our recruiting and training director. So she both recruits our volunteers and then she also trains them. And working with Crystal I can tell you When you're trying to recruit CASA volunteers, regular people from the community to come forward and do this amazing work on behalf of the most vulnerable children in our community. It takes somebody with the passion and commitment that Crystal has for her role at CASA. And so I'm so thrilled and I appreciate the Women's Commission for recognizing Crystal for the wonderful work she's done.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 32Proposed1:58:04

Mr. Chair, Board of Supervisors, thank you for this honor. Women's Commission, thank you for recognizing the work that CASA is doing and recognizing me personally. It's really humbling because this work really truly isn't about me it's about the children that we serve it's about our volunteers and the amazing work that they're doing to speak up for our community's most vulnerable children. We have volunteers throughout the county serving hundreds Again, hundreds of children and I'm inspired daily by their stories of success.

Overcoming hardship that some of these kids have endured in extreme circumstances that I couldn't even imagine living in. And they come beside that child at the most critical time and speak up for them. And in my opinion there's no greater cause Then making sure that children are safe. And that's what our organization does, it's a privilege and an honor to work for CASA.

We couldn't do it without the support of our community, our leadership, my team of staff, we all worked together to make this happen. And because I'm a recruiter, I'd be remiss if I didn't say that we need more CASA volunteers. Today, you can go on our website sbcasa.org and it'll tell you regularly how many children throughout our county in which area are waiting.

We have 24 children in Santa Maria, 24 children in Lompoc, one in Santa Barbara, 15 out of county kids and they're waiting for somebody to come and train and invest that time and speak up for them And ensure that while they're going through the foster care system, they're safe. So I encourage people who have a similar passion to get involved with our organization by investing their time or investing their resources. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:00:10

I just wanted to chime in, having served seven years as a CASA how rewarding it is. It was a judge in Washington who saw the various social workers and lawyers coming in and said, I really don't have a picture of the whole child. And so he went forward and created the first CASA. As a CASA, you meet with the teachers. You meet with extracurricular, the foster family, the natural family and you see that child as a whole person and represent that to the court but you're also a mentor in that child's life.

We know now from adverse childhood experiences that children one of the things that is most critical to their health is having one caring adult consistent in their lifetime And so often foster children don't have that. And even the county with social service people can't offer that because of the change. People change jobs, get promoted, that kind of thing. So the CASA is really critically important and it's a wonderful program and thank you so much for the work you do.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 33Proposed2:01:25

Good morning Supervisors, and thank you Supervisor Steeve for appointing me to represent the 5th District. I'm excited to be here and it's with great pleasure that I present to you a resolution honoring Lideres Campesina Central Coast as the 5th District Commission for Women Service Award recipient. Can you please join me? Whereas the mission of Lideres Campesinas, which translates to Leader Female Farm Workers is to develop leadership among female farm workers so that they serve as agents of political social and economic change in the farm worker community. And whereas the Central Coast Nonprofit Chapter is organized by and for farm working women The approach emphasizes capacity building, democratic decision-making, advocacy, peer training and leadership development as well as a mixture of traditional and innovative education.

Outreach and mobilizing methods such as house meetings, arts and theatrical presentations at community venues. And whereas Líderes Campesinas attempts to secure the progression of programs That help other female farm workers discover their own capacity to be a leader and to know their rights as a member of a family, local state initial nation and global community. And whereas among their many efforts to educate and empower their peers, Lideres Campesinos took a stand against domestic violence and sexual harassment in the workplace by designing aprons with messages of empowerment to give the victims a voice and inspire them To get out of the situation and speak up early on.

Now, therefore be a horrified order and resolve that this Board of Supervisors declares Lidres Campesino Central Coast as the 5th District Commission for Women Service Award recipient.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed2:03:49

It's an honor for us to be here. Representing our local sector and the state nonprofit, which now has 13 committees. We represent women, we advocate for them and their spouses and their families.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 33Proposed2:04:37

It's an honor to be here in this beautiful city and in this place where a lot of resolutions are adopted to better our

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communities. We have the emotions, and we reflect about everything we've lived through in our county. And this has inspired us to do our job even better. We would like to thank everyone here for the work that they do because it's because of you that we are also able to do our work. Queremos que sepan que de corazón y con amor y con mucha voluntad estamos nosotros apoyando a las familias campesinas.

We want you to know that with a lot of love and compassion, we are supporting our farm working families. Para que juntos todos hagamos una mejor comunidad y sobre todo en estos tiempos de tanta transformación y reformulacion. So that we can all build a better community especially in these times of turbulent times So, we want you to know that you count on us and our motivation to keep going. Thank you so much.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 33Proposed2:06:22

Thank you. Okay, and now for our individual Commission for Women's Service Award recipient I present to you Myra Ramos, Assistant Director for Harvest Community Center Whereas Harvest Community Center is a dedicated small non-profit with a big heart, as Maria says it. It's inspired to end hunger while serving the needs of the community by promoting self determination through community connections and whereas Harvest Community Center offers monthly food distributions, adult computer classes, educational workshops and is working towards building a homeless shelter in Santa Maria And whereas Myra, as the Assistant Director works hard to serve the community with integrity, compassion, fun and smiles. Myra believes volunteering does not have to be a chore but that it can truly be fun and rewarding.

And whereas last year Myra supported Boy Scout Joseph Andrade with his decision to build a library as his Eagle Scout project as a way to create a reading space for the children that Harvest Community Center serves. And whereas upon the completion of the library, Myra has facilitated a weekly after-school reading program and crafts program for the neighborhood's youth with the help of other community volunteers.

And whereas Myra recognizes the power of partnerships and has also implemented fundraising ideas by connecting with local restaurants and businesses throughout the year allowing community members to give back financial support, toys, food, and school supplies. And whereas one of the annual events Myra organizes is the back to school extravaganza, where local hairstylists provide free haircuts and a variety of businesses help collect and distribute school supplies to prepare the kids to go back to school. Now therefore be it heard if I order and resolve that this board of supervisors declares Myra Ramos of Community Harvest Community Center as the 5th District Commission for Women Service Award recipient.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 29Proposed2:08:44

Good morning. Thank you so much for the honor, and I really want to thank Pastor Ori Johnson and Goddess Johnson for starting Harvest Community Center. They are two individuals like you and I who decided to do something to help their community. So it's been their efforts that have motivated me and pushed me towards doing this great work in Santa Maria. So I invite all of you to join us in supporting our community by There is no better way to give back than to fulfill yourself with something incredible like serving either the homeless, the kids, adults. There's so many things that we do at our community center and there's a space for all of us to give back. So thank you Yvette for the honor and thank you for the community for continuing to support our work.

CommentAnna EverettProposedself-stated2:09:32

I'd just like to wrap up by thanking Chair Lavinino, all the members of the board for your guidance and for working with us to make sure these women are recognized. And I'd just like to have all of our awardees join us in the reception as we march over right now. Thank you!

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:09:49

I want to thank you before we end. I didn't get a chance to congratulate my 5th District honorees. You know, exactly what you said about volunteering. There's so many people I know we hear from them all the time that always want to talk about that there's a negative somethings going on in the community it's negative and my first response to everybody is always well what are you doing to help? You know because there's so many ways that you can get involved and help your community. So thank you for being part of this solution and not just part of the problem. So thank you very much for that and my newest Commissioner our young Yvette Peralta. Thank you for being involved And I'm also going to be stealing Tracy from the 4th District, so that's great.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 28Proposed2:10:38

We're gonna

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:10:40

share. Okay and I am looking for another Women's Commissioner so I don't know we might be talking so all right All right so with that we're going to go over and enjoy, yes Supervisor Hartman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:10:54

I just wanted to say the Women's Commission is one of the most dynamic commissions that we have serving the county and thank you for all the work you do and thank you for bringing all these honorees to our attention a community is only as strong as the vibrant networks of nonprofits that serve the community interest and so you've identified and showcased them today and it's just a tremendous celebration and thank you

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:11:20

Supervisor Hart.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:11:22

And I just want to echo Supervisor Hartman's comments, I'm really proud of the work that the Women's Commission does especially proud of my commissioners for the Second District Anna and Suzanne and today's theme clearly is caring compassionate commitment to our community all of the organizations individuals that were recognized here today are so deserving of all their incredible for their incredible work and we're really proud to have you representing our community today in this this honorary way

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:11:49

And I need a motion to move this.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:11:52

So moved. Second?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:11:53

Moved and seconded, all those in favor? Aye. Anybody opposed? No it's unanimous so let's go celebrate.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:12:20

Thank you. Hi, everyone. you Thank you. Good morning. Hi. Thank you. Music You.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:30:02

All right, I'd like to welcome everybody back. We will now take up department item number three.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:30:08

Chair Lavinino and members of the board, departmental item number three is from the county executive office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the termination of the proclamation of local emergency caused by drought conditions.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:30:21

Mr. Lewis?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:30:22

Chair and supervisors at the March 5th meeting you continued this item with direction to staff that we include a resolution Recognizing the concerns of the water purveyors and despite the end of the drought water supply shortage remains Staff is recommending that you terminate the proclamation of a local emergency caused by the drought And that you adopt a resolution of concern regarding a prolonged water supply shortage within Santa Barbara County

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:30:49

And Okay, Supervisor Williams. We do have some public comment too but- I can wait for public comment. Okay, public comment.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:31:03

Chair Lavenino and members of the board we have one request to speak on this item and that's Tom Becker. Tom?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed2:31:14

Well I decided to speak on this issue too since I've pretty much given up work for the first half of the day. You know one of the things about the drought, and this is very interesting, is that I watched the ERG, I know it's all connected, you know, get off on a tangent here, I watched the ERG Cat Canyon EIR discussion last Thursday At least half a dozen, if not more. In fact one of them, Katie was here she's left now she'll be back.

At least half a dozen people made the connection between oil and gas, the drought and the alleged human climate change. So this is important because I know there's going to be somebody on this board who will bring up the issue of man-made climate change on this discussion of the drought. And this is what I'm gonna say, if you want to declare, if any one of your staff or anybody wants to say that the drought was caused by man-made climate change then show me your credentials As a scientist that allows you to make that claim or in substitution of that, you can show me the people who created the reports that demonstrated that this drought was created by man-made climate change.

I'm okay with either one. I have my doubts about it but I do know this Is that the IPCC which was the organization that was mostly responsible is mostly responsible for the work done on proving Miami climate change. Was caught with their hand in the cookie jar by falsifying data Back in about 10 years ago, to get the results that fit their agenda. And just recently there was a lawsuit in Arizona that forced the University of Arizona Tempe to surrender some 5,000 emails from the IPCC concerning how they manipulated and conspired to manipulate the information to prove climate change to fit their agenda.

So this all goes back to oil and gas, it all goes back at all. You gotta prove scientifically. And if your source of information is so badly tainted as IPCC is and Oxford University is, so badly tainted with fraud, you should really throw out that and start all over again. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:34:15

Supervisor

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:34:15

Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:34:17

Well regardless of what the cause of the drought is, and most scientists will never say that a drought is caused by climate change but that we will face increased number and frequency of droughts due to climate change. It's a big difference between those two things. Regardless of the cause I think it is It should be really obvious to the people of our county that we still have major water supply problems.

While we may no longer fit the technical definition of a drought, because of the amount of sedimentation from the fires, because of the water quality issues that the water districts are facing, Lack of ease of storage and of the transfer of state water and the uncertainty of state water. That we are not out of the woods yet, we still have major water supply problems and people should continue to act accordingly.

To me, a lawn that is green half the year and brown the other half of the year, that is okay. Or ripping it out is even better. You don't have to rip it out quite the low-tech way. I did with a shovel. There's better ways of doing it, but one way or another transitioning to beautiful landscaping that is also drought tolerant is really an imperative for the community that we live in because you know the reality is that most water usage except in the city of Santa Barbara most water usage goes to landscaping vast majority And so really, this isn't a debate about fish versus people or fish versus farms or any of those other I think very artificial debates. To me it's really a debate of people versus grass and I'm on the pro-people part of that.

And by grass, I mean turf grass. Just checking. So to me it really is a debate of what's more important? People's use of water or the use of water for turf grass and to me that is people and so we should still continue to behave as we did during the drought in terms of water conservation measures because we are still in deep trouble and we should act accordingly.

Okay, Supervisor Hartman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:37:10

Well I'll accept that. I had feral pigs who rototilled my grass up and so... So got rid of the grass. I just wanted to commend our staff for doing this. The real fear was that people would get the wrong message if we pulled back our local emergency drought proclamation so That has to do with how much water is come down out of the sky, but we still haven't recharged our aquifers and that's so we're still in a water supply shortage. And while Mr. Fair room is here I just one of the big opportunities for Groundwater recharge is capturing storm water. And I'd just like you to summarize for us what the county has done and what we're going to do on that score, because that I think is a major source of supply along with conservation as Supervisor Williams pointed out.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 35Proposed2:38:09

Yes, so Mr. Chair, Supervisor Hartman as you may recall I believe the end of last year we adopted our stormwater resources plan which identifies opportunities for storm water capture and reuse and we're looking at options for implementing some of those projects been in discussions with the Carpinteria Valley Water District for opportunities to Reconnect some of the concrete line channels to the to the groundwater while still preserving the vital flood protection that those channels do.

And then many other areas and then I might also mention that the county stormwater capture and groundwater replenishment started in the 1980s with what was called the Orchid Regional Recharge Project in the Santa Maria Valley so we've been eagerly looking for options there, At this point in time, we have to stay vigilant and keep looking for that. And if I may Mr. Chair, I just would emphasize what Supervisor Williams said by just thinking about the best time to conserve water is when you have water in the reservoir.

That's the time to think we want to keep this for the prolonged droughts that certainly will come again. And not to let your guard down and think well now I can just use it because It's easiest to conserve when you have the resource available and That's not the time to start thinking about conservation. You blew the time before that, so I just emphasize that point.

Very good. Wise words. Supervisor Hart?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:39:38

Well, I agree with all my colleagues and Mr. Farrum's points. The thing that I'm most impressed about the response to the drought has been individual people stepping up in conserving water. It is extraordinary the level of ingenuity and creativity that people have brought to this challenge And I don't think there's really any risk of us passing this resolution to confuse people about what they ought to do because they've been doing it effectively for a very long time. This is the longest drought in recorded history and the conservation levels continue to be extraordinary, and at a time right now when it's raining I think folks, everybody knows that you don't have to turn your sprinklers on to do anything for another 30 days every single time it rains and we're likely to get rain this week.

So people know what to do the water agencies know what to do and have developed an incredibly diverse water portfolio that is adaptable to the circumstances in the conditions and is only getting better With every new innovation and new consciousness about a conservation and green supplies. So I think this is really extraordinary moment to recognize the commitment of our community to solving this problem, and the professional people involved in making that happen.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:40:49

Totally agree with those comments. And I think the important thing also is that we do have I had people coming up to me on the street saying, you can't get rid of this drought proclamation because everybody's going to go back to the way it was. And I disagreed because I think people have really just changed their habits. They've realized that you don't have to water your lawn every single day and let it run into the street and all the things that we know that we shouldn't be doing. So I think people's habits have changed and it takes a long time to break a habit. And we've had that extended seven years that has forced people to change their habits I think we do have to be just really, we have to be honest and when it is an emergency because if we kept this going you know then the time when we do want to proclaim an emergency people are like oh they're just crying wolf.

They've got money sitting in, I mean they've got water sitting in Lake Achuma so I think we need to change it when we need to change it. You mentioned you know when we were talking about groundwater as well how do we know when the groundwater is recharged in the Santa Maria

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 35Proposed2:41:57

Basin? So Mr. Chair, there's a number of groundwater measurement programs that are involved. The county has an active network of groundwater wells that we measure. There's groundwater measurement as part of the adjudication of Santa Maria Basin that is reported every year and then there's a program called CASGEM California Well, I should have wrote that down. But it's required monitoring of major groundwater basins that we have several wells in Santa Maria Valley and other locations that then report to the state on groundwater conditions. And finally your board has heard several reports about the formation of sustainable groundwater management agencies under SGMA and those agencies as well have to report on moving forward the status of groundwater, ensure that they meet the compliance requirements for sustainable groundwater management.

So there's a number of areas where you can track that. Okay

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:42:55

very good. Do those ever do they I mean I know the SGMA ones come come to us but does the yearly annual do we ever get a yearly annual report on groundwater?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 35Proposed2:43:07

Mr. Chair, we haven't been making that report that it's available online We certainly can start a program of bringing an admin item That would provide the location of those resources if that's your direction I think

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:43:20

it would be helpful just in the fact that you know when we're getting rid of When we're passing this resolution that were mindful to folks out there that yeah We could we're still tracking groundwater and we can kind of report on that as well So that would be helpful if it's not too much work If it's already available out there, if we could just report it as an A agenda item would be nice. It'd be very easy to do, Mr. Chair. Very good. All right. Can I get a motion? Make a motion for A, B and C. Second. And the extra direction.

Moved and seconded. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Nope. All right. Passes unanimously. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. That takes us to D4, Public Works.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:44:04

Chair Lavinino, members of the board, departmental item number four is from Public Works. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the initiation of an annexation APN 097371010 Oak Hills Estate Track Map 14810 to the Santa Barbara North County Lighting District and establishing a zone benefit, and this is in the third district.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:44:26

Mr. McAuliffe?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:44:27

Yes, good morning again Mr. Chair and board members and as the clerk mentioned we're going to do two things this morning with your blessing and it's to annex the Oak Hills estate into the North County Lighting District and then the second portion of the item is to adopt a resolution to form a zone of benefit in established assessments and that second portion requires the vote of the affected property owners and we have one affected parcel or property owner in this matter A little housekeeping issue when we bring this item to you. We typically trail it to the end of the day so we go tally up all the votes.

So who's

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:45:01

going to tell you the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:45:01

vote? The vote I think it's going to be our clerk today, so

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:45:05

do we get a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:45:05

drumroll

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:45:05

or is

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:45:06

it

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:45:06

just

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:45:06

well we have a very short presentation and then we will turn it back over to you Mr. Chair and the clerk to open the envelope and let's see if this item is successful. So Marty Wilder our Utilities Manager will do A very quick presentation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 36Proposed2:45:20

Mr. Chair, members of the board, basically the annexation is the housing tract that's proposed as it touches the North County Lighting District in the Vandenberg Village area. As Scott mentioned, the action item is to form the benefit zone and authorize annexation to the lighting district so we generate the revenues to pay for the streetlights so they can stay on in the event that there isn't adequate revenue from property taxes.

So with that, we're here to receive testimony if any. Open the ballot and count it and then consider adoption of the resolution.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:45:55

Madam Clerk do we have any testimony?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:45:58

Chair Lavagnino members of the board we have no request to speak on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:46:01

Okay I think that takes us to Item 2 which is to open and count the ballot. And the Oscar goes to...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:46:20

Chair Levin you know members of the board the ballot indicates a unanimous approved vote.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:46:27

Very good well that helps. I wasn't even I was trying to think what happens if it's no yeah let's play and be OK so with that can I get Supervisor Hartman would you like to make the motion is at the end of the presentation we've got the boat

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:46:44

just going to say that concludes our presentation

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:46:46

very good

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:46:49

So I move staff recommendation A through E.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:46:54

Second. I'm seeing where he is D. Maybe we better take a look at that. So in the printed agenda we have an E which is Do you want to read that? Supervisor Hartman, because I don't have that. That's D online. So what are we missing here?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:47:35

So Mr. Chair E on the printed version is find that the adoption of resolutions to initiate formation and forming zone benefit assessment is statutorily exempt from CEQA.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:47:45

Yeah, that's D okay. Mr. Gazzone, are we okay moving forward?

CommentKaren BrillProposed · by introduction2:47:51

Chair and board, so using the published agenda with A through D which would be A receive testimony B count the vote C adopt a resolution and D find that the adoption is exempt from CEQA to satisfy legal requirements. Okay

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:48:06

let's do that. So we have a motion and a second correct all those in favor aye anybody opposed Passes unanimously. Thank you very much. All right, with that we're going to break to closed session. Mr. Guzzone?

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CommentKaren BrillProposed · by introduction2:48:29

Chair and supervisors, today in closed session the board is agendized to consider three matters. The first is one case of existing litigation service employees international union local 620 versus the county. The second is conference with county council concerning anticipated litigation one case of significant exposure to civil litigation. And a third matter is conference with labor negotiators concerning service employees international union local 620 and my estimate is about 45 minutes.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:48:58

Okay, so why don't we go into closed session at five after. We'll give ourselves a ten minute break. We'll go into closed session at five after and we should be back here at one o'clock to begin items five and six.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:52:20

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:57:22

All right, Mr. Ghazani can I get a report from closed session please?

CommentKaren BrillProposed · by introduction3:57:26

Chair and supervisors today in closed session the board considered three matters The first was a matter of existing litigation service employees International Union local 620 The second was conference with legal counsel concerning one significant exposure to civil litigation And the third was conference with labor negotiators concerning service employees international union local 620 there are no reportable actions

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:57:49

Okay, very good. We will now

move on to item number five.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:57:55

Good

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed3:57:55

afternoon

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:57:55

Mr.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed3:57:55

Chairman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:57:57

Chair Lavagnino and members of the board, departmental item number five is from General Services. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an electric vehicle update.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:58:06

You sound really excited to get started on this!

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed3:58:10

So

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:58:10

good

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed3:58:11

afternoon Chair Labanino, members of the board. In December of 2018 the board asked General Services to report back on possible options and costs associated with bringing more electric vehicles into our fleet I would like to now turn the presentation over to Skip Gray and he will take it from here

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed3:58:35

Thank you. Mr Chairman and Supervisors, as Director Pell mentioned we were here in December as part of the Energy Climate and Action Plan update and at that point you asked us to come back with some ideas on electrification and cost information. What you'll see today is our attempt to determine preliminary costs and alternatives to reduce greenhouse gas emissions associated With the purchase of electric vehicles and chargers.

It also considers hybrid vehicles as a replacement option, and of course there could be a mix of the two. There are a lot of variables in this analysis. This report is a concept level report that only provides a very high-level overview of what the costs might be. Should you provide direction today, we can hone this analysis even further. And if directed, we will seek to obtain the very best competitive pricing on all the equipment.

We'll look at all the financing options including leasing and possibly even purchasing used EVs or lease returns. And we'll be sure we take advantage of all incentives and rebates that might be available when we go forward. One further comment before I begin, whether you agree or disagree with the assumptions you're about to see. The math we used, the pricing of the equipment, the methodology or anything else.

This presentation was meant to get the conversation started about electric vehicles at the County of Santa Barbara and judging by the public comments and your interest in this item, I think we will have succeeded in that So let's get started by looking at the past seven years and what General Services has done in the Fleet Division to take steps to reduce fuel use and emissions.

In 2011, we expanded what was the county's NA idling policy for diesel powered equipment to include all light duty vehicles. In 2012, we installed our first electric vehicle charging stations. We currently have 33 of those at eight different locations throughout the county including several fast chargers. In 2013, we established the ECAP vehicle replacement policy where we strive to get 5% of our annual purchases as alternatively fueled. In fact, we've been trying to reach 10%. And in the past couple years, we've gotten very close to that.

In April of 2014, we acquired our first all-electric vehicles for motor pool use. And actually the introduction of alternatively fueled vehicles began way back in 2002 and to date we've owned 48 hybrid and five all electric vehicles. In May of 2014, we transitioned from petroleum based ULS diesel fuel to renewable diesel fuel In June of 14, we installed SmartIDLE technology in the sheriff's patrol fleet. And in January of 2015, we adopted our policy to ensure that vehicles are right-sized, optimize fuel efficiency and when economically feasible that we purchase hybrid or alternatively fueled vehicles.

Since 2013, the miles driven on county vehicles has increased by almost 11%. While fuel usage has been limited to just a 7%, 7.3% growth. So let's start by looking at the existing county fleet. We have about 1,450 pieces of total equipment in the fleet. 965 of those are what we call light duty vehicles. These are pickups and sedans. 240 of that population are gasoline powered passenger vehicles.

And it's these 240 vehicles that we'll focus on today. Again, we're talking right now for this purpose only sedans and no emergency vehicles would be replaced. So in order to develop these high level concept estimates we had to make some assumptions. And these are the scenarios we started with again at your direction and we can always go back and refine this but we had to start somewhere.

And this is where it starts. We assume that vehicles would continue to be driven as they have in the past, that is average miles driven would continue for each of the vehicles so if a vehicle went 12,000 miles over the past three years we assumed it would continue to do 12,00 miles a year over the next X number of years. Existing gas vehicles would be replaced with an all new electric or hybrid model when they reach the 100,000 mile threshold We assumed that average annual usage and projected when each of the vehicles will likely hit that 100,000 miles.

We looked at a five year window. It could be longer, but we looked at five years and in that five year window 124 of those 240 gas powered vehicles will reach the 100,000 mile threshold in the next five years and be eligible for replacement. Skip I have a question right

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:03:59

there. Sure so what did we normally replace our fleet at? Was it 100,000 because I've been in cars that seem like had more than that. What's our normal?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 39Proposed4:04:10

Chair Lavagnino, members of the board. During the recession it was a thought that we would save money by increasing the miles and I think we went up to about 120,000 miles. Over that course of period we ended up having more expenses with maintenance and vehicles and then a few years ago, I think 2014, we reduced it back to 100,000. So what

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:04:33

do we do with... What's the secondary market for our vehicles? Do we have I mean like so we drive 100,000 miles which in today's world is nothing. Most cars have a 100,000 mile warranty on them. So they still have use to them. What do we do with them when they're done?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 39Proposed4:04:52

Chair Lavinino, we auction them off. So whoever that bidder may be who purchases it could be another organization or agency. Okay thanks.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed4:05:02

When you look at the 124 vehicles and as they retire over the next five years, it looks kind of like this. The first year we have 55 of those vehicles that hit the 100,000 mile threshold. And then 20 in year 2, 16 in year 3 and so on. I might mention that of those 55 that reached the 100,000 miles in the first year 42 of those are our pool vehicles some of those already have a hundred thousand an excess of 100 and some will reach it during that time period We also assume that we would have two classes of new electrical vehicle replacements.

The long-range group, which will go at least 200 to 250 miles so that would be your Chevrolet Bolt or your Hyundai Kona and then the short range version of 100 miles and that would be something like the newer Nissan Leaf We assume that hybrid vehicles would be a standard hybrid and not a plug-in electric, so no charger would be needed. And we assume that all of our EV costs that you see include charger installation, depreciation and maintenance of the charger.

And again I'll repeat that once we get further direction on what direction you'd like to go, we'll go back and look for the best pricing and grants and incentives and all that good stuff. So with the chargers, we assumed an average cost of approximately $14,000 per charger. That includes installation. We assume that each charger will charge two vehicles. We looked at the historic costs of our existing chargers to come up with that number Anywhere ranges anywhere from 11,000 to 23,000 with the most recent being about a $17,000 per charger that we just put in the two In August. We got a grant in August and installed them in the fall So to calculate the cost and savings We needed to determine an average cost per vehicle for each of these alternatives in this table attempts to do that Before we go through the table, I'd like to talk about the fourth column which is the Vehicle Replacement Fund Contribution.

This is the fund that departments pay into every year so that when their gasoline vehicle is ready to be replaced there are funds there to do so. So we're treating this amount Which averages about $20,000 for each of these 124 vehicles on average. As a credit to the cost of purchasing any new EV or hybrid so that departments can use that money to offset the cost of the purchase of a new vehicle.

The first line, the gasoline vehicles has no impact because that's our current state. So if we replace a gas vehicle with another gas vehicle obviously there is no extra cost. The next line, the hybrid line we assume the purchase price of the new hybrid would be $24,000. And there would be no cost for a charger since we are using the standard hybrid. We subtract our replacement fund credit of $20,000 since that money is available for purchase and we decided to go ahead and put in fuel savings. And this is a one year look at that fuel savings to show you the impact of switching from a gasoline engine to a more efficient vehicle.

For the hybrid annually, it's about $1,500 per vehicle. And for the EVs, it's a savings of about $2,700 per vehicle. In actuality that will continue over the five years or whatever, however long we own it. So we'll show that we did in our analysis, our five-year analysis, we did include that amount and multiplied it on out for the five years to get the total.

So the last column shows the incremental amount On average, roughly that the departments will need to come up with for each of the alternatives. One more note on the vehicle purchase price for EVs and hybrids we did assume a very modest rebate. For example, the California's Clean Vehicle Rebate Project gives $2,500 for government fleets but again there could be other rebates available as well.

So we looked at four strategies, pretty simple. First is to continue our current practice that 5%, five to 10% of every annual vehicle order continuing to get alternatively fueled vehicles as part of that. We looked at number two which was on all electric strategy for those 124 vehicles. Number three was all hybrids and then four which I think is the most popular over the next five years the vehicles will replace with a mix of hybrid and electric So looking at the short-range all electric option, we assumed again approximate cost of the EV for the short range, the Nissan LEAF for example would be around $29,000.

Again, the credit of $20,000 for the gas vehicle that the departments have now would be used. So an additional $9,000 will be needed to purchase the electric vehicle. And then we took the charger cost of 7,7700 average fuel savings as a credit and then so the total incremental costs of replacing that gas vehicle with a short range EV, we assume it was around 14,000.

Same analysis in the long range. We assumed a $33,000 purchase price and then the $20,000 credit if you will for the gas vehicle would bring us a need for 13,000 additional that departments would need to come up with to purchase the EV. The $7,000 charger, the $2,700 fuel credit and so the incremental cost of the longer range EV is approximately $18,000. If you look at it over the five years, the third column there is that net incremental cost after fuel savings of about 1.7 or so and the net incremental cost for the long range is the fourth column as around 2.2 million. And then greenhouse gas reduction somewhere north of 500 metric tons of CO2 for those options.

For the hybrid, similarly $24,000 for the cost of that hybrid. You take the credit of $20,000 and $4,000 would be needed for that purchase. There will be no charging station so there's no cost there in your fuel savings credited at $1,500 gives us a rough idea approximately $2,500 needed for each hybrid that is purchased And over the five-year period, that comes to about a $300,000 amount total and only about half of the greenhouse gas reduction that you would get with the electric vehicles. Much better obviously reduction in greenhouse gases with electric.

So the fourth strategy was a mix of short-range and long-range EVs and hybrids. And we just took 20%, assumed that 20% of those 124 vehicles would be hybrids, say 50% short range and 30% long range. And you come up with around a cost of around $1.6 million. Looking at it graphically, the short-range EVs here are the gray. The long range of the blue and the hybrids are the orange. Again, the five year period, the totals over there on the right show anywhere from 300 to 2 million or so.

If you look at the greenhouse gas again as I mentioned we're only getting about half as much reduction using the hybrid versus the electric vehicles. If you look at a cost per ton reduction to reduce one metric ton of CO2, obviously the hybrids are the highest because of the cost of the vehicle. What does this do to the departments? Again, rough estimates here based on all the assumptions we've just talked about.

The gray again is short range EVs, all short range EVs if they did all long range EVs that's blue and all hybrids is orange. And I will say that the first three departments that are impacted the most, B-Well, Social Services and Public Health. Most of that is pool usage so we have to spread that as they use pool vehicles, that charge would be passed along to all the departments. There are a number of departments that aren't on here because they are minimally impacted.

So just to summarize, again first four strategies. The first one is continue what we're doing the second is all electric the third is all hybrid and fourth is some mix so with that will entertain questions.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:14:33

That is a lot of information Do we want to go to public comment or do we want to go questions? Supervisor Hart, what would you prefer? Okay. How much public comment do we have?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:14:48

Chair Levin, you know members of the board, we have five requests on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:14:51

Okay. I have made a decision too and if anybody else wants to take me up on this that's fine. Eight years ago when I got on this board One of the first people I had come in and talk to me about this item was Mr. Chiacos, and he's been talking about it for all that time and coming to my office and discussing this item and trying to figure out how to make this work. And I know he's done a pretty significant analysis on this.

So I'm going to allow him six minutes to speak if anybody else would like to have that freedom today? This is a huge decision for us and I don't see a lot of time constraint on the rest of the agenda. And I don't see a lot of requests to speak so for those that are going to have some input. We're going to allow us to delve into this item a little bit morning. So if as you come up in your names called if You know we'll deal with it as we get it so go ahead, let's call the first person.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:16:15

Chair Lavinino members of the board we're going to begin in Santa Maria with Andy Caldwell and then return here in Santa Barbara with Michael Chiakos.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:16:23

Well I know Andy you only know how to speak in three-minute segments so.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed4:16:28

Yeah but I'm gonna challenge myself. All

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:16:30

right let's try it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed4:16:34

And I want to thank you for that consideration As you know, I'm representing CoLab. I have some of the just topical concerns and I want to just talk about the big picture here. First of all, this issue of turning these cars over at 100,000 miles is ridiculous. Nobody in the real world does that. Why does the county think it has a luxury of doing that? I mean, in the old days when we were young 100,000 miles out was the end of the life. It's not any longer. My car has got 215,000 miles on it. We just got rid of a Suburban with 230,000 miles on it. So that thing right there has gotta go. You have your own maintenance staff for crying out loud so the labor is already built into your budget.

Secondly you have to ask the question about buying new vehicles in terms of saving money and again some of this should be about saving money. I'm glad they put the chart in there about the cost per metric ton. You can't look at this through a keyhole and say, okay because it's popular let's consider EVs or hybrids because it's popular thing to do. It seems to be low hanging fruit. Don't make that decision in a vacuum. Find out what else you can do in terms of reducing metric tons for different price points.

That's a responsible thing to do because you're spending public money here. We can't help but think a lot of this is virtue signaling. We are 400,000 people out of 40 million in the state and that's 40 million out of several billion in the world. So right now you're trying to save 524 metric tons of greenhouse gas Emissions, 500. The world is admitting 10 billion a year, 10 billion and you have to ask yourselves as responsible fiduciary stewards, is it your imperative? Is it your mandate to neglect maintenance You've got greenhouse gas emissions by changing furnaces and air conditioners and appliances throughout the county, or older vehicles to newer ones that pollute less on a general basis. You have roads that are falling apart.

Is this really what people are demanding, that you make a stand on 500 metric tons out of 10 billion? That that's really the best bang for the buck the county can come up with. And with regard to the United States, the United States annual emissions is 5 million metric tons Well, I guess it's 50 million metric tons. But anyway the bottom line here is Texas which doesn't have as many people as we do actually has more than double the percentage of total emissions in the United States.

There's other states, we're actually probably in the middle of most of the states as far as what our emissions are even though we have so many people. And the point here is again this issue of virtue signaling, of wanting to send a message, of wanting to send an example but does it make a difference or not? That's what we wish we could get through to you. Are you really going to make a difference? Is it worth you spending millions of extra dollars when it doesn't make a difference?

It assages your conscience, it may shine your green credentials in the community. But those are millions of dollars you're spending on something that is a signal without a meaning in our opinion because of the global view and even the United States' view of what's going on here. We believe this money would be spent better elsewhere, including paying your bills. The bottom line here is you might be able to do more mass transit of employees In terms of augmenting free buses, free railroad passes. I've always made the argument that one of the ways to cut down on the freeway traffic from county employees between Ventura and Santa Barbara is open up a satellite county office in Ventura and see how many of those hundreds of employees wouldn't have to make the trip at all.

That's the kind of stuff that I think you should be talking about. I think that you spend a couple million dollars on a facility in Ventura and get those people off the road entirely in their own car would probably go farther than this thing is going to go, and it would add to the quality of life of your employees. Take traffic off the freeway, which adds to everybody else's quality of life. There's all sorts of things you could be doing than this. And again we're not against if the vehicles pay for themselves in terms of well it's going to cost us less in fuel and less in maintenance.

Well then do that analysis. All what I see here is it costs you more than regular vehicles that you're replacing too often and too early in terms of your schedule. Thank you.

PresenterMichael ChiacosEnergy and Climate Programs at Community Environmental CouncilProposedself-stated4:22:34

We're

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:22:35

going to return to Santa Barbara with Michael Chiakas, to be followed by Karen Brill.

PresenterMichael ChiacosEnergy and Climate Programs at Community Environmental CouncilProposedself-stated4:22:40

Good afternoon and thank you for the extra time. My name is Michael Chiacos, the Director of Energy and Climate Programs at Community Environmental Council. And we lead the Electric Drive 805 initiative along with Air Pollution Control Districts of Ventura, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo Counties. We've been working for eight years to accelerate EV adoption on the Central Coast. I personally have worked with dozens of fleets. As a EV driver myself for the past seven years, I've personally seen how EVs can save significant money.

And so staff has noted that fuel usage is increasing and that we need to try something new. The county has deployed five electric vehicles, and in my view has done so in a very inefficient and wasteful way. Meanwhile other counties such as Alameda are buying 25 EV's annually until 2030. Denver it has a goal of 200 EV's by And our county needs to do more to hit our fair share of the state of California's goal of 5 million electric vehicles on a road by 2030.

EVs are transformative technology. They achieve over 100 miles per gallon equivalent, they reduce greenhouse gas emissions 75% per mile compared to gas and zero tailpipe emissions. And so I was really disappointed to read the county's EV report which really reflected this can't do mentality that I've seen over the last eight years and it dramatically overstated the cost of deploying EVs.

It also had a math error that I hope was just an oversight. They found the EV would cost over $3,000 per ton of CO2 reduction and they use that as their one-time cost of $14,000, a benefit of 4.2 tons but that is an annual number so over 100,000 years over eight years that would reduce that from over $3,000 to $437. And furthermore the county can deploy EV's at a cost neutrality or even cost savings as I will show you The county states the Nissan LEAF gets 100 miles to the charge and costs $29,000.

The EPA rating for that LEAF is 151 miles. And a consumer can purchase this vehicle starting at around 19,000 after taking the $7500 federal tax credit, the $2500 rebate from the state and the $1000 rebate from Edison. The county can take that tax credit as well, as there is a provision in the IRS code that allows the dealer to pass it through. This white paper capturing the federal EV tax credit for public fleets was done for Alameda County.

Additionally, the state bid and the state has 700 electric vehicles, has great pricing including the Nissan Leaf at $26,000 which after the rebate from California would be under $24,000. The county also overstates the cost of their gasoline vehicles. They chose a price of $20,000 for a vehicle but if you look at the MSRPs for the most common vehicles it's $28,000 for a Ford Taurus and $22,000 for a Ford Fusion. Okay they may get a discount off of that but like social services behavior wellnesses their entire fleets are Tauruses in Fusions no focuses The county also lists an extremely high price of $7,700 per charging station and inefficiently uses only one port per car meaning that the charging station sits unused for 22-23 hours out of the day.

This is a huge waste of taxpayer funds. The county uses ChargePoint, which is the most sophisticated and expensive charging software with internet connectivity, credit card readers. That's great for public charging but for fleet and workplace you don't need all those bells and whistles. You can get a charger for a quarter of the price. Digging into the county's analysis I noticed that they say this high cost for chargers but when you look at it 94% of that cost was paid for by grants so the county has really paid $400 a charger They also neglect to mention the programs through Edison and PG&E that provide for almost entire cost of putting in charging stations. And this will go on for many, many years. SCEs is 48,000 charging stations.

Chargers can be placed in a very low-cost manner at say the new BetterAvia solar carport. You can use existing conduit and supports for hanging chargers. The inefficient practice of one charger per vehicle needs to be changed. So you can have your one charger in your fleet vehicle in front of it like you do now, but you could also have a fleet vehicle on either side and on the other side you could allow three employees to charge during the day so that one charger could charge six cars or 10 cars even.

That would really reduce the cost of putting the chargers in and any annual maintenance and depreciation and all of that The chargers here at the Admin Center are already configured that way, which was a really great way to do that. And we could start here with a pilot policy to let employees charge. In fact I've been contacted by county employees that commute long distances from North County and want to commute in an electric vehicle but they can't charge it work because there's no charging here and there's not a good practice of sharing the chargers The county can also take advantage of the low carbon fuel standard, which is pretty complicated but you can read about in my letter where you could basically charge your vehicles for free and in fact even profit off of them.

So finally looking at the 124 sedans is a great start but the report doesn't consider EV options for SUVs vans and trucks. The county has some minivans and there's a great vehicle the Chrysler Pacifica plug-in hybrid gets 84 miles per gallon equivalent for the first 33 miles And then 32 miles in hybrid gas mode. It's pretty great for a minivan, there's SUV EVs on the market now and Ford will have hybrid and electric F-150s starting next year.

Sheriff vehicles are also the most used sedans only get 12 miles per gallon. The Ford pursuit rated fusion hybrid gets 38 miles per gallon that could save you $20,000 over the lifetime. Please procure more electric vehicles.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:28:52

Our next speaker is Karen Brill to be followed by Katie Davis.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:29:00

Good afternoon.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:29:01

You can bring the mic down.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:29:02

How's that?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:29:03

Perfect.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:29:03

That better? I'm with the Climate Reality Project in Santa Barbara, a group of 32 of us that were trained last summer with Al Gore and we are seeking to educate and advocate for the environment in Santa Barbara County so We ask for the county to consider deploying electric vehicles for the next year's sedan replacement It's human nature to resist change, to procrastinate and to postpone what's inevitable.

This change is going to happen eventually why not start now? We're not talking about virtue we're talking about facing reality. We are not saving money by investing in old technologies. We're putting ourselves behind the curve of the future of transportation We need to take a deeper look and to think long-term. The recent County of Santa Barbara fleet electric vehicle analysis showed outdated cost information, didn't take into account amortizing some of the numbers, and it also does not acknowledge many programs that could dramatically reduce the prices of EVs and charging stations for the county.

While our pollution increases other counties are leading the way to cleaner transportation Pima County is adding 20 EVs per year for the next five years. Alameda County's purchasing 25 EVs per year until 2030, even Santa Monica will be at 80% EVs by 2020. While increasing population we need to pay attention to the substantial health benefits from reducing pollution as well.

It's known that EVs don't produce local air pollution that contributes to a range of health issues. The health effects of air pollution are serious, one-third of deaths from stroke, lung cancer and heart disease are due to air pollution. Within the United States California suffers the worst health impacts from air pollution with about 21,000 early deaths annually The county analysis used some outdated information. Recent studies have found that the total cost of owners Ownership for electric vehicles is less than conventional vehicles. Prices for EVs continue to decrease relative to gasoline cars, such that the actual price differential is likely to be much less than the analysis stated.

In addition charging infrastructure should be considered separately but if you're going to consider it as part of this plan consider the various alternatives Don't add in the entire price the first year. Consider lower cost alternatives. $7,700 is an excessively high-cost consideration. You can buy a level 2 charger for $400. I think Michael already addressed some of this.

Maintenance and repair costs are two to three times higher for gasoline. EVs benefit from not requiring oil changes or other maintenance costs for exhaust systems. The five-year horizon gives less time for the fuel and maintenance savings to compensate for any purchase price differentiation. At 15,000 miles per year it would take about seven years to reach the 100,000 miles. Over seven years or 100,000 miles you could expect to save around $10,000 in fuel and maintenance costs.

The total cost of ownership of EVs is less than gasoline cars. Santa Barbara is a leader in so many ways, we need to think long term as we have done in so many other areas and got on board with fleet electrification. Thank

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:32:55

you. Our next speaker is Katie Davis to be followed by Tom Becker who's our final speaker. Katie?

CommentKatie DavisProposed4:33:08

Hello, good afternoon. Katie Davis, I'm chair of the local Sierra Club and I just want to reiterate that point that studies have shown that the total cost of ownership for electric vehicles is less than conventional vehicles. The total cost of ownership is less than electric vehicles and the reasons are simple. The fuel is half the cost roughly because electricity's cheaper than gas and maintenance is at least half the cost because there's no oil to change and there's less to repair So as stated earlier over the life of the car, you can save at least $10,000 per car on fuel and maintenance.

Times 124 cars that's 1.2 million in savings on fuel and repair. If anything, I'm understating this. New York City has over 1,000 EVs and hybrids so they have some real experience with this and they just issued a report saying that their annual maintenance cost for a Bolt was $200 compared to $1,800 for a Focus. So that's actually nine times more so I'm being very conservative in these numbers.

My family has been driving EVs for eight years, and the tires are the only thing we've replaced. So I personally can see that the savings here. The reason the county analysis didn't show that advantage is they underestimated the fuel savings. They didn't include the maintenance savings at all and overstated the price differential between EVs and gas cars. I could go out and buy a Bolt today, just look to the websites for $30,000. And then get $10,000 back from the state and feds and end up paying $20,000, the exact same price as they provided for a gasoline car. So that price differential is just not there, even if I just go to a retail site and buy it today off the internet. Lastly, the overstated charging costs. These should be considered separately and amortized over much longer periods since chargers last longer than the five years and can be used by more than one car.

You're not really going to go install 124 charging stations. You just wouldn't really do that. So $7,700 per car for a charger It's really excessive. You can certainly find less expensive chargers, you can share chargers among more cars if it really costs that nobody would get an electric car at their home and we have three electric cars. We share between two chargers. We never have a problem. I could get by with one. We just plugged our car into a wall outlet for a period of time, so you don't need to spend that much. You can get additional grants. You can let commuting employees use them during the day. You can solve this. You can certainly do it for less than the cost that's shown here. That is a guarantee.

The greenhouse gas savings are much greater than shown there for the reasons that Michael Chiacos laid out. And you can also reduce the other air pollution as stated. And thinking about those 20,000 deaths every year in California and what that means. I think about it because there's a lot of asthma in my family. My dad has it. My kids had it when they were young and I remember what it was like to be in the hospital with a baby struggling to breathe and how terrifying that is. And if you can do your little part to help prevent other parents from going through that, that is a really meaningful step we can take right here to improve the health and well-being in our county. We can electrify the fleet today.

Electric cars are 10% of new car sales now. They don't make up a large percentage of the overall sales, but they are increasing. There's lots of options now. This is a reality that's increasing every day. Oil use in California is going down The Andy Caldwell talked about Texas having more emissions in California. That's true, California used to use more oil than Texas But now we don't we use less because we have made these changes because we're making this transition happen So let's be part of that solution and not part of the problem. Thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:37:17

And our final speaker is Tom Becker

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed4:37:20

You know what this reminds me of? The movie My Cousin Vinny. Remember the point where the prosecutor makes his comments, his opening comments and then Vinny goes up there and he says everything that guy just said is blank blank remember that? Everything those people said is blank blank I'm a mechanic. I've been a mechanic since I've been 14 years old and I worked on those cars The idea that your county government can't get more than 100,000 miles out of a car. What is wrong with your maintenance division?

I work in Director of Maintenance. I'm Director of Maintenance at one of the largest transit agencies or actually private transit companies in Santa Barbara County. And if they don't get 200,000 freaking miles out of their buses I would lose my contract. I've got 250,000 miles on my Honda Odyssey that I take care of myself. Why don't you hire me? Contract me on 60 bucks a freaking hour. Contract me!

I will get 200,000 miles out of your sedans and easily a quarter million miles out of all your commercial vehicles. I'll do it. I'll save the taxpayers a million bucks a year and you pay me 60 bucks an hour. That's ridiculous. Priuses? I've worked on those pieces of crap. Okay, the batteries and I've probably changed about 10 or 12 of those battery packs. They have an average mileage failure of 78,000 miles for the battery packs that includes lithium ion as well as nickel metal hydride. I know my business here These people are crap. Those batteries fail you know what they cost? Last time I did one over $8,000 to put a new battery pack in one of those things 79,000 miles that's the type of crap you're gonna get all right Electric vehicles, oil and gas, and climate change are all connected together.

Your staff made that official in this letter to BOEM. I'm going to keep referring back to this letter. Your staff said that greenhouse gases, the capacity for processing offshore oil and gas and oil shaft gas itself including electric vehicles it's all connected you cannot separate them and they have to be looked at together That's the reason why when I submitted this scoping letter for the Plains pipeline, I included questions about electric vehicle operation and registration and whether or not they've actually sold vehicles in this state at anywhere near the amount that would be necessary to make even a scratch or a dent in greenhouse gas emissions.

Okay? The EV mandate started 22 years ago. I don't care what that woman back there says, electric vehicles account for less than 1% of the registered vehicles in this state. Hybrids don't count because they got gasoline or diesel engines and the state officially says they don't count as electric vehicles. It has to be a vehicle that doesn't have an engine in it Doesn't burn gasoline, diesel fuel. It has to be a zero tailpipe emission vehicle and hybrids don't count like that.

Hundreds of people have been killed by overloaded electrical systems in this state 23 people died in this county as a result of mudslides caused by the Thomas fire. You start plugging in more electric vehicles, you will start killing more people. Your staff couldn't care less because that's not even explained in their report. How dare they not care about the people that have been killed by overloaded electrical systems?

Supervisor Williams claims that the drought You can't prove that the drought was caused by man-made climate change, but I can damn well prove that Thomas Fire was started by Edison because that's already been proven by Cal Fire. You start plugging in more vehicles, electric vehicles, you will increase the load on those electrical systems, you will kill more people. Why don't you have staff figure that out? That is a question that is asked in the EIR scope for The Plains Project. Answer some questions about that.

And here are my questions that I submitted to the California Air Resources Board about the zero-emission airport shuttle regulation. I'm not going to get into the details of that. But I can tell you that I couldn't care less about that program, not a single member of your staff contacted car about it there are no public comments from your Impacts the airports here in the county, Santa Barbara and Santa Maria are going to be impacted by that zero emission airport shuttle. Your staff completely ignored that and that is like a three or 400 page environmental technical document that they could have referred to.

These environmental groups back here, they've already made the connection between oil and gas, electric vehicles and climate change. But yet when I asked one of these people back here to answer some questions he said no, I'm not going to ask any questions with oil and gas because it doesn't have anything to do with electric vehicles but they're the ones making the connection themselves just like your staff.

And finally, you notice how your staff didn't talk about E85 vehicles? Vehicles powered by ethanol or butanol. It's not even there! They didn't even do a cost comparison between vehicles that could be powered by renewable ethanol or butanol. Your staff had totally ignored that. Why did they do that? Because they have an agenda. Thank you. All right.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:43:29

Thank you. So bring it back to is there anything that staff wanted to that took out a public comment. Anything else you'd like to comment on or just open it up to the board move forward.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:43:42

OK

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:43:43

supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:43:44

Williams. But I, you know, I know. I guess it's always fun to be staffed and get beat up on both sides. The Cars are Basic thinks you have a virulently environmental agenda and the environmentalists seem to think- All right thank you Mr. Becker. Okay well I guess he's not I guess he's not resent representing cars yes. And then some environmental think you're standing in the way.

I do think though that the analysis in the staff report is overly conservative on the change meaning you know I understand why there would be Why the averages that people would use and the estimates that people would use, would be on the high side because you're making a change. And you don't want to make the change and then afterwards say hey actually we need more money for that change. It's easier to then come to us and say hey it actually didn't cost as much as we thought it did.

But I do think that because you're not amortizing the infrastructure which we normally As a practice in the county, and because you're conservative on how many vehicles could be charged by a charger. The cost is much higher than it would actually be. I would be comfortable going forward with this plan for at least one year. You know makes the cost more than it really should be is as if we just look at long range because then you're really only looking at 2 models.

And I think that there's probably a mix of need out there. Not not every one of our pool car vehicles is used 200 miles in one day and so in a lot of cases A range lower than that would be perfectly acceptable. So personally, I hope that we will proceed with the full conversion to EVs in sedans for one year, which would be 55 vehicles in the replacement and roughly 50-50 between short range and long range EVs.

You know, I think that the... I think some experimentation with the chargers is called for. We get better prices with economies of scale. We could probably charge four vehicles per charger and not two because you don't need all day to charge them but I think there is one advantage of your analysis by saying that I think one of the ways that we can help make a difference. That doesn't cost us any very much at all or If we don't provide the ability for someone to charge while at work and we have a lot of employees that start purchasing. He bees on their own own dime.

And obviously one of the barriers to that is that not all employees get get parking privileges. I kind of thought about that problem. Not as part of the motion but my suggestion would be Street parking that was designated the bees that had different hours. Rules didn't have the 90 minutes or those 75 minutes and we during the day we use them for fleet vehicle or employee vehicles and at night we use him for fleet vehicles.

I think this is not about you know a Spending more money. I think this is about using the opportunity of a longer term investment and looking at the long run. I think the stats show that EVs do actually have a longer lifespan than conventional cars, so we may save money and we can plan to save money on a couple different ways. Maintenance, the stats have been articulated very well by Katie and I think they're pretty conclusive.

Obviously for us that's a little bit different because we have maintenance staff so you have to calculate that a little bit differently. Secondly, the potential of savings of using the EVs for much longer than 100,000 miles And I think the other possibility that really we should ask staff to look into is because of the longer lifespan, it's maybe viable for us to buy vehicles that are three years old, have 36,000 miles on them. Post-lease vehicles are really cheap. I had staff draw up some numbers and I'll share them with you but You know, used TV's and mind you almost all these are post lease. So they have low very low mileage is on them range from $6,000 to to some of the more expensive models that you're looking at to 15,000 miles. But I mean, you know, it's It's at least I don't want to have that as part of the motion, because I don't want to force it on you.

But I'd ask you to look at that. And just for the purposes of the public, I mean, I'm looking at the costs of EVs and particularly when they're after the tax credit or the direct cash rebate that the state of California provides for EVs These are very, very affordable vehicles ranging from $17,000 for EQ smart at $23,000 for an IUD for a Hyundai. $25,000 for a Volkswagen electric Golf. Of course I'm a Chevrolet made in America kind of family and so the cost for a Chevrolet Bolt which has extraordinary range is $29,000. So these are very affordable vehicles.

The savings per year in gas is immense. And I do think when we talk about a lot, whenever we debate oil or whenever we debate energy the need for people to actually make a consumption change, I think it's bad for us to talk about that and not make that change ourselves.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed4:52:10

Supervisor Hart? Yeah, I agree with the comments from Supervisor Williams. I don't think it's really a question of whether we're going to transition to electric vehicles. It's just when and how? And I think that the staff has done a good job of framing in gross order magnitude the relative cost of these things. There's a lot of different ways we could look at this. Mr. Chiacos' expertise is really valuable. I've relied on him too from a technical standpoint and I'd encourage staff to get together with him more and explore some of these ideas about Ringing some more of the cost out and being creative along the lines of Supervisor Williams comments. And I think, um, the best way to dip our toe into this is to do a one-year project not to look at it in terms of the five years but to start with a single year we'll have much more data as a result of that will know precisely what the economy's the scale of The maintenance savings are and even potentially buying used vehicles, although I guess you wouldn't get the rebates for that.

So there's, you know, I don't know if that works out in terms of an actual purchasing strategy but I think it's a great idea. It's an important move for the county to begin this transition. The Metropolitan Transit District is moving down this path and is learning a lot as well. There's expertise there and this is a real opportunity. Supervisor Hartman?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:53:32

Well, first of all I wanted to thank you for the background and knowing what we already do. And I hadn't known about the renewable diesel fuel 100%, so that's really gratifying to hear that as well as the other strides we've made. I did have a question and that is in thinking about how much short range, how much long range, how many vehicles in a fleet? Do we have any knowledge, any information? Do we track the average daily mileage so we would have a sense of is it under 100 miles or is it more closer to 200?

Do we track that information?

CommentNissan LEAFProposed4:54:17

Board we track vehicle miles by every time there's a fuel transaction or work orders written up so miles tracking is in detail As far as our motor pool vehicles are concerned that mileage is tracked by the trip Yes,

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:54:33

because every

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:54:34

Okay, so in other words if we asked you how many vehicles would we need that could only go 100 miles without a charge versus the 200 mile. How would we make that call? What percentage in each class? Can we base that on what we know now by how many miles a car goes each day for a trip?

CommentNissan LEAFProposed4:54:58

For that information, we would have to poll the various departments. I'd say the mileage we track is when we see the vehicles come in for fuel or for a work order and then when a customer books out a motor pool vehicle, we have a start and a stop of that trip. However, that doesn't convey how many clients they may have visited throughout the trip so it wouldn't require polling.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:55:17

Okay, I think Chair Lavinino has some questions and then I'll have a comment. Yeah,

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:55:23

thank you. All right. So for me, just a couple comments and some questions. So for me it's seriously about if I was buying it for myself is the way I've got to look at this because I look at this as yeah, you know, I definitely want to transition at some point into electric vehicles today. I didn't want to leave that hanging out there too long. So, but when is the right time to do it? And I want the best bang for the buck. You know what scared me the most is when you said that those cars after three years they're, you can buy them for $6000.

There's a saying that if something's free or cheap you take as little as possible because there's something wrong with it so I guess my question You know, some of the questions have to do with first off, do we factor in at all added electricity costs? And what does it cost to charge a vehicle at a charging station?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed4:56:32

We calculated about, and I'm going to look at Roy. How much? About $3 a charge basically.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:56:44

And so we have to pack. I didn't see that factored anywhere in or maybe it was

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed4:56:48

it is it is factored into the fuel savings because we all right.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:56:52

So we did. We did take a look at that. OK,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed4:56:55

we assume we had to pay for the electrification or the charging of the vehicle.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:57:00

So that takes me to question two, which is up here. Okay so how long does it take? So on those 55 vehicles that we're looking at right now...so they're gonna hit a hundred thousand miles? Is that what we're anticipating?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed4:57:10

Yeah either they are at or will hit it. And then

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:57:14

how old are they? How long does it take to get to 100,000 miles?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed4:57:16

Some of them may be from some of maybe eight or nine years old because there more campus vehicles and they don't go that far. Some of them are probably would you say Eric six years old The

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:57:28

most. OK, so if we did I mean for me even if we do part of this is we've got to change that. You know all we're doing is driving back and forth the Santa Barbara driving around town that we've got extend the life of these vehicles. I mean turning them back in. Maintenance right now because one of things it scares me as known versus unknown costs. I know what a Ford.

What am I driving fusion? At 100,000 miles there's not a lot of maintenance you have to do anymore. It's like change the oil, change the tires, change the brakes and they basically go... it's not like the old days. So I think we've got to extend the life of these vehicles and my question is will an EV last that long? Like if it takes us nine years to get to 100,000 miles what's an electric vehicle going to look like nine years from now with technology changes and the like? How does that factor in because that's unknown

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed4:58:32

You know who might be better to answer that would be Michael. To be honest with you.

PresenterMichael ChiacosEnergy and Climate Programs at Community Environmental CouncilProposedself-stated4:58:41

Well, you can weigh in. I'm going to go ahead and get started. So actually, you know maybe buying 10 used leafs at three years old would be a really great strategy to see how they work over the years and what the cost would be. In terms of technology changing, your battery range is going to increase dramatically. You're going to be able to charge them faster and the price is going to come down. So you look at the Nissan LEAF six years ago was 80 mile range and $33,000 MSRP. Now it's 150 mile range and $30,000 MSRP so that gives you some example

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:59:40

right? So that's exactly kind of what I have in my head. My sweet spot I think is, you know, I'm looking to change out the fleet as we use the fleet. So that instead of saying okay these cars still have life to them let's get rid of them and get these new ones. I don't even think that's an environmentally superior alternative actually. You know you're supposed to use what you've got. And so what I'm thinking is where I would be most akin to this is to say let's use the vehicles we got until they They've lived their life, let's say to 150,000 miles. And then as they live their life, technology at that point is going to improve as well and we could get some better vehicles maybe even at that point but I want to see us use them first.

So I don't know a lot about electric vehicles so explain to me the battery situation and where does the battery go once when you're done with it? I guess we go to auction, we don't worry about it again. I know how we normally think about things and where does it end up? What happens to the battery?

CommentNissan LEAFProposed5:00:52

Supervisor, our target point for the life of an EV would be hopefully dispose of the vehicle prior to the battery replacement because it is so cost prohibitive. We factor our replacement costs into the cost per mile of the vehicle. And so to that end, we don't want to have to pay for a battery. Okay,

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:01:08

so then we definitely wouldn't want to buy a used one because we're already into the life of the battery? It would depend on the lifecycle of the vehicle how we want to plan it out. Okay, so what is a lifecycle? I mean, I see a lot of 1950s and 60s cars driving around. I don't see a lot of 1950's and 60's Priuses. So what is the...what's the life of a regular electric

CommentNissan LEAFProposed5:01:27

vehicle now? Currently we only have four so over the past Five years six years with 13. They have 70,000 miles total amongst the entire group and they're still going They're still

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:01:39

going and when do we want to get rid of them because we want to give the battery to somebody else

CommentNissan LEAFProposed5:01:43

At this point with only 15,000 miles on each vehicle. We're

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:01:46

gonna

CommentNissan LEAFProposed5:01:46

keep

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:01:46

a

CommentNissan LEAFProposed5:01:46

little bit

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:01:47

longer. It's 15 per vehicle Yes, I mean it's not got you 70 overall okay? so I guess the battery does end up somewhere bad, right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:01:58

Yeah. They recycle them but cobalt is bad and one of the points that Andy has made before that he's very right on is we need to start tapping into cobalt supplies in Australia and in the United States that are ethically a lot better than where most of the cobalt is coming from right now.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:02:23

So next question is on non-general fund departments, which seems to be using the vast majority of these. Is there any way to get buy in from state and federal outside of the incentive that they provide for us? Basically what we're doing is we're doing a good deed on their behalf. Their employees are driving around an environmentally superior vehicle. There should be some reward for that, for us doing the right thing.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 39Proposed5:02:53

Chair, that might ultimately be an auditor controller question. But typically you have to use the capital you have or the funding you have when it comes to state and federal funding sources. And then they would pay as is as they've received that benefit of the capital you've invested. So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:03:13

the benefit yeah, there's no additional benefit that we could accrue for having our state and federally funded programs Use electric vehicles but good question All

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:03:25

right And then one of my last ones is so and this is just kind of guidance that I mean if we are going to go out and buy 55 electric vehicles which I'm not in favor of right now because I want to see a cycle through the pieces that we have If y'all decide to make that purchase, that is a strategic purchase as well. I mean, I can't imagine too many people are going out and buying 50 electric vehicles at once.

I want to make sure it's a local purchase if at all possible. And I don't know who, I don t even know where you would go get 50 electric vehicles to be honest with you. That is a strategic purchase and I just want to make sure that we handle it that way.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed5:04:01

Chairman Leavenley, you know Alameda County did the right thing and it's a really neat idea they did a regional approach where they approached the cities around them and actually several other counties too and did a bid that was pretty successful whether it ends up being local or not I don't know because you're right how many dealers have that But

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:04:25

they would get that capability if we went and said, Hey, there's a chance by 55 of them. All of a sudden somebody be like hey I'm the new dealer for

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed5:04:33

And the other thing they did was to write the RFP or the bid such that they invited the dealers to give us discounts, give them discounts based on the $7500 tax credit or any other tax credits that they might get. The dealer that did that got the bid because they lowered the price significantly. So yes, the answer is yes, absolutely strategic procurement would take place for that.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:05:01

Okay, and then my last, I think I've said that three times. So we have four right now. We're gonna be going from like zero to 100 miles an hour with electrification. And that's never in my history, that's just not in my opinion a good way to go about getting into something. I don't think we go with, we have four and then we vote to buy 55 the next year. And we don't have the infrastructure.

I just think a slow steady move in that direction is a better play. And I do have to respond to some of the talk about, I guess it's whatever way you look at air quality in California. I know we do have eight out of ten worst cities nationally for air quality. But also, if you look at Santa Barbara County, you are breathing incredibly cleaner air than you did any time in the past. I mean, if you go back and look it, I'm looking from the CARB website, and you go back and look at the 80s compared to now.

We used to have 150, 160 days out of attainment, and last year we had two. And there's all different levels of what you're looking at whether it's ozone or particulates but our air is considerably cleaner. It's been a little bit more difficult than it ever has been so I still understand that we need to do better. But we are making giant leaps in that regard I guess you've answered my questions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:06:40

I'd like to clarify a lot of the pool vehicles and that's quite a few of the ones in the 55 are used by our social services department and they don't just drive around town there are times when they have to go pick up children at Just long-distance locations and so maybe Mr. Nielsen would want it to speak to that I just want to be really careful that we can meet our

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:07:08

customers here he comes I Wonder why he was hanging around back there No, I didn't have my glasses on there we go there you

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:07:18

are Supervisor Lavagnino and supervisors I appreciate your comments on the discussion related to budget issues in terms of the fact that we wouldn't get any additional money if there was additional higher costs than our normal scheme. But the thing I want to make sure the board understands is that we have the need to hop in a car and to go pick up kids. From relative placements throughout the state, we have the need to hop in a car and go around the state seeing five or six kids on a monthly home visit.

We have the need to go retrieve kids that relatives no longer want. And so I'm perfectly fine at the end of the day if we end up for my department with a mix of electrical vehicles and some hybrids. But some hybrids and some long-term, long range electrical vehicles for doing things around the county. Because when a person goes out on an investigation of child abuse or elder abuse there's no way that they're going to know ahead of time necessarily how far they're going to have to drive. So I just wanted to make sure that as you make whatever decisions you make today and in the future We do have some unique circumstances regarding the needs of being able to go long distances at the spur of the moment and not being able to stop and recharge along the way.

Appreciate that input. Supervisor Williams? I've got

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:08:39

just a question about that, Daniel. So how many cars are we talking about in your current?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:08:45

That's something that I could work out with Jeanette as she further assesses. Are they

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:08:52

checking them out of the motor pool or do you have...

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:08:54

We have our own cars in addition to, we check cars out of the motor pool. How many of your own cars about it? I do not know right now. Is it tens or...? Hundreds as far as that would need to be

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:09:07

no. No, I

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:09:07

mean just

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:09:09

Like what scale are we talking about?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:09:12

I do honestly do not know I would have to assess that And and like I say we could very easily Do that assessment and figure out how many of our pool that we had Could be of one kind versus another that's something that we could easily figure out But you guys know that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 39Proposed5:09:29

Chair Lavanino supervisor ones we could get back to you on that and look at it We don't have it right in front of us

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed5:09:35

I have a rough estimate of the first year of those 55 vehicles. I can tell you that two of them are assigned vehicles to to social services and 42, the majority of their cost is the pool vehicle usage. For example if we replace the two assigned vehicles at 18,000 a vehicle that's 36,000 they spend, we estimate that they would be charged approximately 280,000 in their pool charges so they use a lot of pool vehicles

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:10:17

And what's the total number of pooled vehicles? It's about 170, 80-ish.

CommentNissan LEAFProposed5:10:27

Throughout the county

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:10:28

approximately

CommentNissan LEAFProposed5:10:28

138 pooled vehicles.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:10:31

You know I mean my view is the question arises that Daniels talking about is what happens when you have a large percentage of the fleet being EVs not when you have two and And when we have in the motor pool a third or quarter EVs isn't going to be the tipping point for that, especially if half of the purchases are EVs with ranges over 200. I mean on Sunday I just drove from Yosemite to Buelton on one charge so There's a pretty good range on these things.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:11:19

And Supervisor Williams to the chair, our department would have no problem absorbing what was proposed in terms of the shift of these cars in the next year. We can certainly incorporate electrical vehicles into our fleet over time as part of the plan it just my point is that at the end of the day You need some real cars. We need some hybrids for those sort of circumstances and so other than the cost impact of the proposed plan for the first year, we certainly have no objection or problem with having our two cars that are slated to be replaced become electrical vehicles.

All right

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:12:02

supervisor Hartman. Supervisor Hartman?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed5:12:04

Yeah, I just think that's the bottom line it is if we're just talking about one year We're talking about changing the mix of the fleet overall We're gonna leave the details of which cars go to which departments in which way To the professional people so that they can have the right tool for the right purpose But there is definitely The ability of the county as an entity to use electric vehicles, more pervasively than we do today. It will come at a cost in the short run that I think the majority of us believe in the long run we're going to save money and it's just a question of how long it's going to take to save that money and Experience in operating these vehicles in a large fleet and on this context. But there are other local agencies ahead of us that have more experience in that regard, and I know that you'll dig deeply into that.

Checking with the city of New York, other California cities that are further along on that curve that have bigger integration of electric vehicles in their fleet will give us more cost certainty and make this more clear but The technology is advancing every day, it's like you can always wait to buy a computer until next year too because it's gonna be better and cheaper. And then you won't have a computer. And so in the meantime, we have to just take a step forward because it won't be very long before all the auto manufacturers are only gonna be making electric cars. That there are major international automobile manufacturers who have said, we are getting out of the business of making internal combustion engines vehicles and they are also looking into the future and planning for survivability and profitability.

So it's not that big a leap. Supervisor Hartman?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:13:41

I just had a question about how many charging stations we need and how much, can we get that in place for if we do get 55 say electric vehicles? And we assume more than one charger per vehicle. Could probably be charged on one charger. I understand there are different, you can get a master and hook off and so... Can we get the charging infrastructure in place? That's been kind of the statewide, the limitation. So how about county?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed5:14:17

Right. Supervisor Hartman to the chair we again made a very broad assumption for the $14,000 cost. We know that there are solutions out there it could be that we don't need necessarily the most expensive charger. We know that It could be that in some of our pool locations, we can charge four or five or more vehicles using the technology that switches when it's full and it moves to the next one and the next one and the next one.

So we have to look at that and that's complicated. But I think it's absolutely doable. We just need to really think through who's getting the vehicles, where they're going to be housed, how long they're going to be driven or how far and then set up that charging system so I can pretty much assure that we'll be able to get a very competitive especially if we bid again strategic sourcing.

If we bid it and because it's going to be a decent number we should get some decent pricing.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:15:20

OK, well

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:15:21

I. Please Supervisor Harmon. I want to be really careful here. 55 cars are you know if we're going to go all EV that's quite a bit of our fleet and I'm not 100% sure that we could get the infrastructure in place within that year. I don't know and so that's something we would need to look at and come back and share with the board.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:15:50

When you do that, I don't know if maybe it was in the report. I'd like to get a list of the 55 cars that we're going to get rid of and

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:16:00

We can do that how

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:16:01

many miles they have so that I mean I just Maybe I heard that before but it just seems I guess now that I'm the cars are so expensive used to me I think most people are driving them a lot further but Anyway, okay so there's direction. Did you want to give them more direction and make a motion or?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:16:23

Supervisor Zia could you just repeat the motion so everyone is clear.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:16:26

We don't have one yet. I mean, I think the direction is over time that we go to a carbon free fleet. But how much we want to bite off in this first year? I would think as much of the 55 as were able to serve with infrastructure To charge it and looking creatively. I think given the way the federal subsidies are structured, we may want to act sooner rather than later because that's a big chunk of money and as different Models of cars take that down, we'll lose that opportunity. So I think in that sense sooner is better than later but you gave us a conceptual report. I think we can give conceptual direction that I at least would like to move towards electric vehicles as quickly as possible and you are the experts to tell us that But I do think some of the assumptions about fuel savings, particularly maintenance savings.

About the cost of the vehicle, about the cost of the chargers that that could come down significantly when we look at it in a finer grain way.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:17:49

You know and maybe we have a couple of motions on this because I totally support what you just said. That we want to move towards an electrification I think those general things are great. I might have some problems with the exact details, but I also don't want to come across as the Neanderthal that is totally opposed to this. And we've got, because I do think, I just think we're talking about though that we're guessing on a lot of these things that could cost us a lot of money. Just for example what you just brought up about the infrastructure. You bring in 55 vehicles and he's all people. The reason why we have these cars is because people have places to go and need to get there. And I'd hate for someone to go out and be like, oh we can't.

My car didn't get charged tonight. It's not like I used to go out to the pool cars all the time. I'd be like freaking empty. Okay well I gotta go fill it up. You can't do that you know? What if the charging station is not available or we don't have a charging station there? There's just a lot of things to me that could go sideways that I don't think is fully cooked but Supervisor Williams.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:18:57

A very simple and straightforward motion, which is that all new purchases of sedans be electric. I think the out for staff is if they feel like they can push the lifetime of the existing fleet longer than they could purchase less than 55 vehicles in the next year, which I think Is a win for the environment from the production standpoint, maybe. But more than anything probably a win for us financially to be getting more years out of the fleet.

I think we flirted with it for a long time and Born fruit into a decisive course of action and I would ask for a decisive course of action that all new sedans be Be electric.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed5:19:55

I'll second that motion

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:19:58

And me So, could you respond to that could you do it

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 39Proposed5:20:10

Chair Lavagnino, members of the board. I do want to clarify one point though on the mileage usage that might help Yes in a practical sense as an individual you can drive a car much further 150 thousand plus miles as it comes to a fleet There's tipping point at a certain point where you're getting efficiency maintenance return value on the car and actually there's a lot of I'm going to go ahead and open it up for questions.

Shorter, maybe three years We found that our happy medium for us is or that happy tipping point has really been around that hundred thousand mile mark We could explore it further beyond that but that's sort of in the model when it comes to large fleets Good to

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:21:05

know. Mr. Ghazani?

CommentKaren BrillProposed · by introduction5:21:08

Chair and Supervisors, I know you're trying out different motions on this but there have been several terms used today. I'm just wondering for the purpose of this motion if sedan includes vehicles of the Sheriff's Department and not fire trucks but sedans by the Fire Department. If you have any carve-outs on that or if it's meant to include all sedans.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:21:26

I mean I think the staff report basically articulated a situation where it's the non public safety vehicles that are light duty Part of the light duty fleet, the sedan portion of the light duty fleet. And I think, I'm agnostic about whether I'll leave it up to them when they need to do replacements. All I'm saying is that we should make it real clear and say that for one year, the new- Okay. Sedan portion of the light duty fleet should be all electric and they can come back to us and Hey, this is what it ended up starting us after the year. This is the fuel savings we had and a year from now we can look at what happened.

See you on Miyasako.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:22:15

Supervisor so, um just for clarity of general services. I don't think this is any different than your your option two Which was there because you're new sedan purchases light-duty sedans are basically we've already told you This is what we think has to be replaced. So it's replacing our gas vehicles Over the next five years, but we would pilot it for one year with all electric models I just want to clarify with them that Because they've already told us what they believe would be the new purchases. And I agree with

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:22:43

Supervisor- And that's how I got the motion, but because I do believe it's important to be looking at data to just go that course of action for one year and see what happens.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:22:55

And because we'd have to then invest in infrastructure for the vehicles, I don't think it's... We can report back to you in one year, but if we start investing in that infrastructure for these vehicles I don't think it's a wise investment if we stop after a year. I appreciate the board's concern about looking at it because to see how much of the infrastructure we've achieved and the vehicles purchased, so I think it'd be important for us to come back to you at this time maybe next year to see what's our progress on it, what our experience is but I wouldn't want to limit it to just one year.

As Supervisor Hart said, it's matter when and how and this would be our start.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed5:23:38

Supervisor Hart. Yeah, just one more point that occurred to me in the presentation was the number of miles that are actually increasing in the fleet is something I think also that that should be some thought should be given to that it isn't extraordinary It's about you know a little over two and a half percent a year. I think over the past five years but But that would be an interesting thing to also look at. Is there a way working with the departments that that number could be reduced in the total number of miles that folks are driving around the county? I don't have any other baseline to compare that to, is that just the natural growth of employees? Is that the natural growth of counties? Putting that in context. Is that off rhythm for everything else we're looking at?

And I'd be curious, because that will help with this challenge too. If there's a way to reduce the number of miles that people are driving around then these issues become less costly over time as well.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:24:30

Supervisor Hart for the chair in our initial review it appears that the majority of the increase is with fire and sheriff and with the You know, we've been going out doing mutual aid and Driving you know sometimes out of the state and other places within the state. That's basically where that increases

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed5:24:51

Thank you. That helps a lot

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:24:56

Supervisor Hartman then supervisor Williams.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:24:59

Oh, I just I'm prepared to support the motion But I just wanted to mention Direction that we look at how to incentivize more EV use and charging here for our employers our employees rather and Coordinating is suggested with the city of Santa Barbara or what more we can do Would be I think really valuable

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:25:23

Supervisor Williams. And to start with that effort, I'll offer to swap cars with you so you can try a Chevy Bull. Oh heck no. You're not driving my Cadillac. Forget it. Or just lend it to you at some

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:25:37

point. I will be the last internal combustion engine running around. Now that I will do. Take up the Tesla. So where is the money coming from?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:25:54

Supervisors, so as the general services show this gets put into the ISF. So they would come from the department's funds And so mr. Tony showed the or mr. Gray showed that in the cost so it'd be Have to pay for a department's part minds Yeah and so if there are depart some departments are able to pass through the charge to state and federal funds Some are maxed out and they can't Absorb all the costs of those would be discussions we'd have a budget

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:26:20

All right, so I'm imagining this is going to come back during the budget workshops and we're going to talk about how this affects these different departments then as well if we move forward with this.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:26:32

I don't know if it would be called out that specifically. If you give us direction, we would just incorporate into their...

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:26:37

Well, I just want to make sure that departments come back and say yes, I can absorb or no, I can't. And there's going to be...I mean what service are we going to lose because we're doing this instead?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:26:46

We can give you a rough estimate of what some of those costs are. Mr. Frappel is coming forward.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 40Proposed5:27:00

Mr Chairman, Board Members, I think that we're going to start workshops in about a month and I don't know that we'll have an opportunity to figure out what the infrastructure cost is and the ultimate impact to departments that quickly I do think that with the direction that I think your board is going to take today, there's going to be a requirement the general service look at where do you add that infrastructure? It's not likely to be all of our county facilities. It's more likely to be geographically located where we can get the economies of scale for those chargers and figure out that ultimate cost. So I think it's going to take some time to figure out the cost. I don't think we'll have any information for workshop potentially during hearings in June We may be able to have that conversation, but we will be having the preliminary conversations with departments.

To get at your point is are they able to absorb that cost in general? And then as we continue to refine the numbers kind of take that one more fine tooth comb. Okay

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:28:00

thank you very much. So one last thing is it also affects SB 1 now I mean the more we finally found out a way to fix our roads and now we're gonna have less people buying gas so Just a comment. Supervisor Hartman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:28:18

I attended a workshop and they're already working on other ways to get that money.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:28:22

No, I bet. Tax the electric vehicle. All right so do we have a motion? A motion and a second. Let's take a roll call vote.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:28:42

Mr. Hart? Aye. Ms. Hartman? Aye. Mr. Williams? Aye Chair Lavanino? Aye Motion passes.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:28:49

Okay that takes us to our last item of the day which is Madam Clerk.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:28:59

Chair Lavanino and members of the board departmental item number six is from general services it is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding proposed capital projects for consideration of financing strategies

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:29:18

You guys need a couple minutes? Are you good? That's the same crew.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:29:22

It's the same team, here we are.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:29:25

It's the big general services

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:29:26

day! Yes it is. All right, so we're here today to talk about the 2019 proposed capital project list and if we can go to the next slide. In May 2018 a preliminary list of projects was presented to your board. The lists we derived from the county's Capital Improvement Program where annually departments identify their capital needs So we actually set a point in time when I came, when we came to the board in May 2018. And we've been working from that list. We went back and we fine-tuned the estimates and then some additional studies were being conducted. And so you'll see that there are a couple of new projects on this list based on those studies and those recommendations.

I just want to let departments know that they're continuing to update their capital project improvement needs, and there'll be another point in time where we'll do this exercise again. We base our prioritization on department's needs as well as we use the principles from the GFOA. These projects that are on the list today are in the priority one which we consider the must-do And priority two projects which are the should do's.

So now I'm going to go through, so let me take a moment just to say that if you exclude item number 10, the public safety radio replacement project because we're going to come back separately and talk about financing that project. The total project cost of all the other items is about $71 million. So now I'm going to go through each of the projects. I'm going to do my best to give you detail, and Skip may have to help me at certain points.

So the main jail renovations, this is a two-phase approach to address existing issues. We have some ADA modifications that are required. We have some repairs. We have passive travel, seismic upgrades. Medical mental health modifications, housing unit upgrades. Classrooms program space needs security upgrades and just deferred maintenance needs to be taken care of here. And so we envision this being a two phase project and we would expect us to be completed in about five years.

So if you go to the next slide So this is a picture of the jail. The renovations will occur in all the areas except area 2, which is the medium security facility so and another point we need to open the northern branch jail so that we have some room to work when we're doing construction. Some of our guests at the jail will move to the Northern Branch Jail and we'll provide for some swing space.

The next project is the Public Safety Radio Tower Enhancement. We have been making enhancements over the last year or so to improve coverage, and this is really the phase three of those previous projects that we've done. We're going to add a radio tower and infrastructure to establish radio frequency transmission at Figueroa Mountain, add PG&E utilities and new Figueroa Mountain facility Replace existing 60-foot tower with a 100-foot heavy duty tower at the Santa Ynez Peak. And that's going to help improve coverage in other areas as well because of the higher elevation and modify radio frequency transmission site at Mount Abel to support multi-agency public safety radio services. So on the next slide, we'll show you how the coverage will be enhanced.

So with Figueroa Mountain that improves that area, Mount Abel and then with the Santa Ynez Peak, the Santa Cruz Island will be improved and that's a project that we're currently working on. Okay. The next project that I wanted to talk about was the Cali Real water system replacement. So we have, this project is to replace 80 year old piping and valve systems at the lower Cali Real campus and basically we are doing a Cali Real campus master plan And if you go to the next slide, this is going to be outside the campus and will not be impacted.

It will be able to be used no matter what we plan to do on that campus. So I wanted to assure you that we're taking that into account. The next project... Is the Santa Barbara historic courthouse roof replacement. We're going to remove and store existing roof tiles, replace deteriorated underlayment materials, rehabilitate the gutter and downspout system, and replace roof tiles. And we spend a lot of time, if you notice there are approximately 75 maintenance calls to fix leaking roof in the past 10 years. So it's time for it to be done and here are some pictures of the problem areas and then of course our beautiful historic courthouse. We want to keep it beautiful like that.

The next project, and we brought this before you a couple of times now is the Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency Upgrades. This is the project that will install solar energy systems at the Better Arabia campus, install solar thermal for hot water heating, install lithium battery storage system, and install small wind generation. It also has some upgrades HVAC and some of the other fixtures and lighting and that type of thing.

And here is a picture of where the work will be conducted at BetterAvia. The next project is the Kachuma Lake Park infrastructure upgrades, where we'll renovate and reconfigure the 120 RV camping sites Replace water and sewer lines, and upgrade the electrical services to meet the newer RV camper requirements. Replace paving concrete pads with added rebar, and install new landscaping in campground furnishings and camp area elements.

And the next slide shows kind of we got the wrong side. We actually have a very nice slide that shows The Santa Barbara probation department headquarters. This is a new construction before I start with the details. We actually evaluated about 6 different options for this project and this is the one we're recommending. So we are recommending that we construct a new 35,000 square foot headquarters on the property at County Garden Street parking lot And this project will consolidate the Probation Administration and Adult Services with the PRRC and Juvenile Services. And those last two, the PRRC and Juvenile Services are located at Hollister, at the juvenile hall.

Demolish the current probation department headquarter building that's on Carrillo and then retain that land for future use which could be we could sell it, Decide what other uses for that particular location. And here's a picture so you can see the new probation building headquarters will be Garden Street side, right? Okay Have some underground parking and it will consolidate the entire probation department into one location The emergency operations center expansion.

This one was added to the list due to the fact that we did a after action report on it after the Thomas fire and 1 9 debris flow and these are some recommendations that were in that report where we extend the existing EOC structure provide some sleeping quarters space for a call center as you recall, Jammed up in little offices during the Thomas fire. Have multipurpose conference rooms and redesign an area for the joint information center, and additionally add parking.

I want to stress that this particular facility was intended when it was built to expand so that's where it says EOC expansion. That was part of the plan.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:39:14

Janet how old is that building six seven years

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:39:20

old 2012

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:39:22

at a cost of like I'm sorry

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:39:29

six or seven million

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:39:30

okay I'm not a fan of that option but let's keep going

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:39:35

okay And then finally, and we're not really talking about this today but we don't want you to lose sight that we have this big public safety radio replacement project looming. And so I'm not going to go into a lot of detail. We were just before you in December regarding this project, and it will improve our coverage area and update our antiquated equipment.

So there are departments here that can speak to specific projects if you have questions. And basically we're looking for direction today direct myself To work with the county executive office to come up with some funding strategies. To actually move forward with the projects that you tell us to move forward with today.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:40:30

Okay, very good is there a public comment?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:40:33

Chair Lavagnino and members of the board we have no request to speak on this item. Okay

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:40:37

well I'd like to hear maybe from the CEO of You know there's 70 something million dollars worth of projects there What's our capacity for debt? And then I'm sure we'd like to do all these. What can we do, what should we do?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:40:56

Chair Labonino, it's a good question. So your board, prior board had set aside money, ongoing revenue for debt service for big capital projects and this was maybe two or three years ago knowing that we would need to do some of these projects and so we set aside about 1.4, $1.5 million in ongoing revenue, so that's available. Looking at the budget, as I said, Mr. Frappel and I are in still budget balancings like a puzzle looking around what additional revenues we have, what one-time money could be going towards some of these projects, what's our additional capacity for ongoing revenue? We're bringing this to you because we think all of these are necessary. We obviously don't think we could fund the public safety radio replacement project with an issuance in 2019, but at this stage as we're still trying to figure out what revenue is available either one time or ongoing for debt service today, we just wanted to get your confirmation on these projects Or not so that we can start planning for the budget and we would bring information to you at budget workshops But I'm telling you know, the CEO.

I think all these should be funded and we will work to try to Towards that aim looking at one-time revenues and what ongoing revenues are available.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:42:09

Okay,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:42:10

supervisor

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:42:10

Williams

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:42:12

All of them should be funded or is your recommendation? All of them except for the radios are funded because That exceeds our really our capacity to serve service debt without impacting

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:42:26

correct.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:42:27

So you're saying that we could service $71 million in debt? What's that for a general fund hit every year?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed5:42:35

Again, I don't think we can service 71 in debt but we have again one and a half 1.4 million set aside an ongoing revenue and We think some of these we should have some one-time funds available. So we would take them off the list

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:42:48

Okay Some of them will have different financing, the energy efficiency ones. Financing will be somewhere between 0 and 1%, whether we can do on bill financing or whether we'd have to do a California Energy Commission loan which is 1%. That's cheaper than the debt service that would be on the other projects so it just varies project by project.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:43:12

So I guess a question I had as far as parks go for the Kachuma Lake. I think that's a great one for me because I think it pays for itself in the long run over the hall, but I just want to make sure that so we're okay. We don't own that park correct? Or do I just want to make sure we go out and do $12 million worth of upgrades. We are covered by a long lease.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 41Proposed5:43:38

Supervisor Labonita, through the chair, we have 25-year lease on that property from the Bureau of Reclamation. I think there's 18 years left. But we have a long history at that park. Right. I think we've had it for 67 years.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:43:48

So these also, this 12 million has nothing to do with the other 40 million or 30 million that we need upgraded at Kachuma? That has to do with like the water treatment plant and all that? This ask is specific to the RV area. Yeah, I don't want to do anything that the federal government should be doing. So we've only been asking for that for 10 or 15 years. So really, for me, I guess I'll lead off. The only one I have heartburn with is the EOC expansion. I think that's kind of a want more than a need and I will be the first one to say that I was not in the thick of it so you know I'm just speaking as when I was there but And I guess this is another one instead of a need. But when we start talking about stuff like that, there's people that don't have air conditioning and I know that drives some people crazy when I say people don't have air conditioning.

They're like so what? I don't have air conditioning in my house. I get it but we got people working in planning development that are working and it's 100 degrees outside or 95 degrees outside and they are dying and there's no air in there. So if I'm going to go out and borrow money to do something, I think that would be a project for me above the EOC And the other thing I'm just worried about is, you know on the historic courthouse roof replacement.

I thought there was an organization a local organization that Friends of the courthouse or something like that it always they've boys been coming to us and asking us for help with doing the mural room and those types of things I remember supervisor Carbajal was big with that but they're not into roofs or what's the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:45:32

So Supervisor Lavagnino, the Courthouse Legacy Foundation I believe is what you're referring to and it's really not in their mission. They're more about conservation of art, the art elements, the stone, the tile, lamps so not necessarily...

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:45:52

Not the hard stuff? Yeah. Okay. You know one of the other things I'd like to see along with this at some point maybe we bring it In the budget cycle or whatever, it would be nice for me to see 10 or 20 properties that we own. That we're not currently using or I mean it's nice to have a bunch of assets but at some point we have a lot of need and maybe it's time to liquidate some of our assets that maybe we aren't using. And I know some people just freak out about that because if we have it we should hold on to it.

You know, we've got a lot of things that need to be done and we've got a lot of bills to pay. And you know there's probably some properties out there that we could move and I'm thinking also on that Santa Barbara Probation Department headquarters it would be interesting to see what that property is worth that we're going to be moving out of because that's a $20 million project. I'd like to defray some of that cost sell the place that we're leaving so just some thoughts.

Anybody else anything want to comment on the list supervisor Williams

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:47:09

well. I think we should make an informed decision about what the disposition of the property that's being vacated by probation is. Both the property here downtown and the property on our county campus, it would be great if you guys brought that back to us to talk about what one once we knew. But the really what the options are I'm not suggesting that we dispose of a portion of the county campus but talking about what we use there as an in the future.

I am. I am curious if we could get a little bit more detail about The pieces of the EOC work, meaning could this be parceled out? What I'm hoping is that we would have a fairly broad vote today. And if there are some changes that are more necessary than others and if you guys have a breakdown of that, that might be helpful. And I'm just trying to address the fact that Supervisor Lavinio Right now I don't think that's on Supervisor Lavinio's list and maybe if we broke down a portion of it, a portion of it would be.

Can we go over that slide? Go back to that slide?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:48:45

Supervisor Williams for the chair. I guess I want to understand what your question is

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:48:52

how much of it is the parking. How much of it is the EOC expansion? You know, break down what pieces of that

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:49:03

so we own that property right? Yes. Okay. So this is just flat out construction.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:49:09

We're going

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:49:13

to go into that detail. It's basically square footage and the cost for a generic generic square foot got

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:49:23

it,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:49:23

but there's some H back work. I mean, there are several components of

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:49:38

Oh, I see Mr. Pontus here. Maybe he would be the one to talk a bit about what it was like and why these changes are needed.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:49:46

We're going to name the sleeping quarters after you by the way so...

CommentKaren BrillProposed · by introduction5:49:51

Mr. Chairman, Supervisor Hartman, I can talk a little bit about the EOC expansion here. During the Thomas fire and the 1-9 debris flow obviously we all spent a lot of time up there. One of the things the team did really well was solving problems And so one of the first things that we encountered up there was the inadequacy of the call center and trying to get everybody to be able to answer the community's calls. So, we started out with a couple phones in the JIC and it just didn't work out. We ended up cramming four or five people per office into those small offices that are there on this side The south wing, the east wing. And that worked but it was really difficult to manage that many phone conversations in such a small area. So that was one of the things that led us to well what would we do differently?

We'd be bringing a mobile trailer in until we do something and we've looked at that model and that works for a good temporary thing but for ADA access and some other things you can do. Partial mitigations on that but it sometimes is better to build that into the facility in addition to that We looked at our joint information center and we had folks in there sleeping next to their desks around the clock working and It was really really tight with all the media and all the different things going on In the room there. So we looked at a way to kind of break some of those loud functions of the EOC out and how we would go about reorganizing the next time We're activated and that that became what you see here a little bit of a Addition on the wall.

That was meant to come apart on that westerly wall To have kind of quieter areas for the people on the phones and then people managing the information to work together And then also a place where we can bed some folks down that had been there after a 16 18 hour shift it was hard to send them back on the road back to Some of the long transportation routes that we've talked about here earlier today with where they are

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed5:51:43

coming from. He said by the magic words, magic words. I'm trying

CommentKaren BrillProposed · by introduction5:51:48

to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed5:51:48

rope it all in together. He said the magic words. He said we're going to make sure that boys don't have to drive. No,

CommentKaren BrillProposed · by introduction5:51:56

no, no. That's not what I was alluding to. OK. And anyway, and the additional parking so you see down actually it's just outside of this picture to the south. We had to put in an additional parking area, gravel area just for temporary because we had over 100 folks there not enough room to park. So we added some gravel to park in and we were parking folks about half a mile up the hill at the superintendent schools facility So we just knew we had to do something additional with parking. We're looking for a low cost alternative to add some additional parking to the site.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:52:33

All right, I guess for me it's just you know, I guess it's one of those things you have to plan for but it just it's hard to with all the competing interests. You know this is something that happens once every 2 years or something as opposed to something we have people on a daily basis struggling with stuff I get it, all right. Not completely sold but I feel bad about what you had to go through.

Supervisor Hartman has questions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:52:59

Oh well I just, you know when an emergency happens that's when government gets judged. How do we respond to that? And I just wanted you to expand on a couple of things. First the EOC was designed at some point to expand. I wonder if these were the things people were thinking about. The second thing is this issue of problem solving and We learned while things were unfolding and I think that was the biggest Most important thing that happened that I observed There's no cookie cutter You you have to adapt as you get information, and this was much of it new to us So how the space facilitates that? I'd like you to talk about And I think I know a lot of our people commute from long distances including you And to send you after, you know 18 hour 20 hour day on the road.

That's not a good thing. Gina Fisher from my office spent a lot of time at the call center and she talked to us in our office Um, how important that was for relatives or people who needed to know about could they get a ride back for their medication? You know somebody still in my neighborhood. I can't find them my pet Relatives from Back East We're going to be looking at ways we hadn't anticipated that government would need to step up as the nerve center for for all kinds of communication so I just if there are any of those points you would like to elaborate, but particularly the problem solving in this space and how that does or doesn't work.

CommentKaren BrillProposed · by introduction5:54:44

Thank you supervisor Hartman through the chair. So starting with a problem-solving certainly To the disasters and the recovery from the disasters is how well that facility was designed and how appreciative we were for the Orfalea Foundation, all those folks that came together to make that a reality. And at the time, Santa Barbara County has a long history of activations for wildfires and other emergencies. And they probably thought at the time that it was more than they'd ever need. And I can tell you after the planes incident and This this last couple years that where we've activated director Lewin was telling me how many times they've activated since his short tenure here of 3 years and it was an incredible number. So one of the things that led to the design as it is currently was facilitating communication in among the groups, And the information center and we know that that close proximity to each other is really important for sharing information what's going on in the field.

One of those lessons in this last couple activations was that it took a lot of impact off our dispatch center to have an active and robust call center. There would have been hundreds and hundreds of further calls to the dispatch center that would have bogged them down with those same kind of calls that you mentioned, people wondering about different kinds of information. Maybe they weren't connected to the internet or through a smartphone and some of those other means to our website that had the information.

That information, hearing a person's voice and asking things back and forth for our community was imperative in our success in the management of that incident. And so I know that the call center was one of our lessons learned. It is not an area where in the past we have had a huge part of the operation but on this particular those months we were in there it was one of the most important parts of that operations center. And that joint information center as we talked about was also. It was correcting things that were misstated in certain parts of the media it Improving our communication in several platforms of social media and the website. And so there were constant people working on how to solve those problems, and some of those problems were best met by a sandwich board in front of Janine's to share information with other folks in the community.

But a lot of that information was coming into and out of our joint information center. And when you start adding other agencies in their cities and To staff various functions of that, you need a robust facility. And I think that was one of the things we had learned. We'd been so focused on operations and support of the incident command teams that it really wasn't more of a call center information kind of center facility. And we learned in the last couple activations that's really where we need to focus our time and efforts.

And as far as how it was originally designed, your first question. I was not here when it was originally designed. I do know that as the general services team has informed you that whole westerly wall was meant to be expanded to whatever they needed in the future and so it was designed as such.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:58:13

One follow-up question. If we did make this investment, would it be sitting empty when we don't have an emergency or are there other uses that we can put it to so that it kind of generates more value?

CommentKaren BrillProposed · by introduction5:58:27

So that's another great question, Supervisor. You know we have actively as you were present in the CWPP meetings here recently we have community meetings there all the time and it does serve as a hub for our community and is used almost every day by several agencies and groups here in the county and it does facilitate good communication That we have a place to go and do it to have those kind of meetings. Another point to bring up during the emergencies is that a large portion of our square footage was used up by Cal OES and FEMA who had, you know, tens of representatives down there to help lead us and help make sure that they were communicating back Agencies on what our needs were so that was really helpful. We actually pulled in two additional trailers because we were so tight on space and are So we rented two portable trailers pull them up there where you see that arrow there And install them on the site just to get through the disaster and to help one of those was meant to be a call center And Cal OES ended up using that facility while we had it there Okay

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:59:37

Well, we spent the most time on probably the least. OK, supervisor Hart.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed5:59:41

I just appreciate that additional explanation for Mr Pontus and I know the board has been working with staff on this issue for a long time. This is coming into it at the end of a long process and all these things seem incredibly worthy and important to do. And I'm sure there are many, many other projects that didn't make this cut. Just for me offline, I'd love to know some of the things that are right there at the bottom because ultimately this is gonna come down to what we can afford, what the debt service is gonna support, what the individual project financing mechanisms are and how that all lays out in the context of our budget. So there may be other decisions that we have to make here at the bottom of the list and this is one right there within an amount That could go either way on that line.

So I just like to do a little bit more in the future about other things right below that, but I see the critical need for all these projects and excited about the chance to begin to provide that kind of infrastructure upgrades that the community wants to see and that we need to do. I mean replacing the courthouse roof is kinda basic, Chi Rial water system replacements, main jail renovations, none of these things are really optional they're just required.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:00:54

The mundane that we're supposed to get done. Yes, anybody else have any? Comments, suggestions, Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed6:01:02

I'm okay with the projects that are recommended. I'll just ask that you make sure that your staff back here, these guys, make sure that they make them as sustainable these buildings as possible from the beginning so we don't have to roll in there later and add more cost. We'll recover that cost over time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed6:01:26

Supervisor, we do have a zero net energy policy that the prior board had adopted.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:01:32

Wait, before Supervisor Williams got here we had a net zero energy? Wow! We were cutting edge back then. We haven't built anything since then but you know what the heck. Supervisor Hartman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:01:47

I would like to second the motion and just say, I know that there's a lot of thought and deliberation that all departments and staff have put in putting this list together. I know there are other things but I think last year maybe I didn't know all that went into this so I endorse this list. Okay

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:02:07

we have a second and a motion to move this list forward and how is this going to come back to us?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 40Proposed6:02:17

Mr. Chairman and board members, I think what we'll do based on your proposed action today is to bring a financing strategy back to your board. We'll incorporate that into hearings. Again as our CEO mentioned, we will look at the opportunity availability of one-time monies to the extent that we can address some of these using one time moneys and not incur debt financing costs. That of course is a good solution to that so it would be a mix I think.

Comment I would make is in looking at the financing strategies for these various projects Some of the strategy is going to depend on not only useful life but the time in which we can actually get these projects accomplished and If you're issuing tax exempt financing, you basically have an IRS safe harbor of a three-year construction window. So we're going to want to, in developing the strategy to achieve these projects, I'm going to look at the timing of that financing. That might mean—and this is probably more information than she wanted—it might mean We would delay the financing but do a reimbursement resolution early on you might pay some of the cost up front so that you can time your Financing so that you can complete the spending of the proceeds in in the three-year window Anyway, all that to be said I think we'll incorporate that in the final budget hearings

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:03:40

All right. Very good. So we have a motion and second all those in favor. Aye. Aye anybody opposed? passes unanimously And with that I believe we are finished. We will call this meeting to a close and we adjourn until the 2nd of April in Santa Barbara. Thank you. Thank you.