BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 August 27, 2019

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:00

Thank you. you Good morning everybody, I'd like to welcome you to this August 27th meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. Madam Clerk can I get a roll call please?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:08

Mr. Hart? Here. Ms. Hartman? Here. Mr. Adam? Here Mr. Williams? Here Mr. Lavenino?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:16

I am here. If you could all

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:17

please rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. Ready begin.

I pledge allegiance to the flag

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:27

of the United States of America

Can I get a motion to approve the minutes of our last meeting?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.754:45

So moved. Seconded.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:46

Moved and seconded, all those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously. I believe we have some announcements today. Madam Clerk

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:58

Yes, Chair Lavinino and members of the board. I just have a quick announcement this morning we posted an addendum amending administrative item number 23. This is from Public Works Board of Directors Flood Control and Water Conservation District. It is to consider recommendations regarding financial performance security for the Partnership for Resilient Communities Debris Nets project in the first district and recommended action C was amended to add additional language and that is available online as well as in the back of the room.

And we have announcement also this morning for some translators that are going to help us with a few of our items this morning.

PresenterCarla MartinsJust Communities with the Language Justice Network and we are providing simultanProposedself-stated5:35

Good morning, my name is Carla Martins and I'm with my colleague at Refugio. We are here on behalf of Just Communities with the Language Justice Network and we are providing simultaneous interpretation from English to Spanish. All right, thank you for being here. That takes us to our administrative items or resolutions. Can I get a motion to approve items A1 and A2 please?

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:17

Moved and seconded. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Great, let's read A1 into the record.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:23

Chair Lavinino, members of the board. Administrative item number one is sponsored by Supervisor Hartman. It is to adopt a resolution of accommodation honoring Army Paratrooper Bindo Stassi Grasso as the Santa Barbara County Veteran of the Month. And if I can have our World War II Army Paratrooper Staff Sergeant Bindo Stassi Grasso to the podium please. And anyone you would like to join you.

And I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Whereas Santa Barbara County is home to more than 22,000 veterans and whereas those who have given the ultimate service to this nation by serving in its armed forces are deserving of recognition and gratitude by all Americans. And whereas the third district has the honor of recognizing Staff Sergeant Bindo Stassi Grosso of Guadalupe for his courageous service to our nation during World War II.

And whereas on the night of June 5th, 1944 Staff Sergeant Grasso parachuted into France landing in Nazi-occupied enemy territory in the early morning hours of D-Day with a mission to establish radio beacons and to liberate the town of Saint-Mère-Église. And whereas in addition to surviving D-Day Staff Sergeant Grasso was stationed in Bastogne Belgium in December 1944 and participated in the Battle of the Bulge which was the largest and deadliest battle of World War II And whereas Staff Sergeant Grasso earned an Army Achievement Medal for his service, as well as the Good Conduct Medal and World War II and European War Victory Medals. And whereas after completing his service, Staff Sergeant Grasso moved to Santa Maria, California to raise his family with his wife.

His family includes two daughters, one son, 11 grandchildren. 26 great-grandchildren and eight great, great grandchildren so far. And whereas more than half a century ago Staff Sergeant Grasso started a highly successful concrete business in Santa Maria. Therefore let it hereby be ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors honors Staff Sergeant Bindo Stassi Grasso as the August Veteran of the Month for his service in our Armed Forces followed by his service to our community passed and adopted today.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.759:12

On behalf of the Board of Supervisors and the residents of Santa Barbara County, it is my great privilege to present this certificate honoring Staff Sergeant Vendostasi Grasso. As a member of the greatest generation who fought in the most significant war in human history, in not one but two of the most consequential battles in the annals of the American military, D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge.

We just celebrated D-Day on June 6th, but when that fateful day dawned 75 years ago, Staff Sergeant Bindo Stassi Grosso, the last surviving Pathfinder had already parachuted in the dark behind enemy lines to set up barricades on the road so that the Germans could not bring in reinforcements and to light the way for the arriving planes. Against heavy odds, the D-Day invasion succeeded Just six months later, December 1944, American and British forces were converging on the Rhine River. And it seemed that the war would soon be over. But on the morning of December 16th 400,000 German soldiers and 1400 armored guards and tanks burst out of their hiding places in the Ardonne Forest catching the Americans in total surprise.

Three days later, the Germans had surrounded the 101st Airborne Division in the small Belgian town of Bastogne. Staff Sergeant Grasso was there too. No doubt he agreed with the famous response given by Brigadier General Attorney McAuliffe to the German's demand for surrender. Nuts! The Germans puzzled over the idiom but they got the message. I just watched the great Henry Fonda film depicting the Battle of the Bulge and it reminds us how dicey that battle really was, and how much longer the war would have gone on and how many more lives would have been lost if the Allies had not prevailed.

Heroism is when ordinary men and women answer the call to perform extraordinary feats. We are here today to honor and thank you, Staff Sergeant Grasso for your extraordinary and heroic service for our country. And Police Chief Cash from Guadalupe is here to honor their favorite son and say a few words. And then we'll hear from his granddaughter, Stacey Moody herself, a veteran of Band of Brothers Combat veteran of the Desert Storm War.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed12:03

This is such a unique honor. You read or you heard all the accolades of this wonderful man, he's extremely humble doesn't want to be here and we'll talk about this later and his troop here knows that the same thing the thing that makes it really neat for us in Guadalupe everyone else has to read history books watch a movie or think about things we have the living hero we have the living history that's in our community And this is the pride of Guadalupe right here.

So thank you very much from the city of Guadalupe. We appreciate how you have honored one of our greatest citizens and you talk about that the greatest generation, well we have a lot of great generations here today and we got some more coming on but with Bindo he is our leader, he's our heart and he is a soul of Guadeloupe and we're so proud of him. Thank you so much

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed13:13

I actually am honored to have my cousin Laura here as well and a couple of our family was able to come. We're very proud of my grandfather, he's the reason why many of us have joined the military including myself I was supposed to be a paratrooper like him, but they wouldn't let us girls go airborne at that time. So I had to give up that dream, but I wanted to share a story with all of you.

When Grandpa returned from the war his commander sent him home on leave and told him he had enough points to get out of the service, but they needed his paperwork, his discharge paperwork and they were waiting for it. So he was gone, came back a couple months later. They told him we still don't have it go back home come back again so he did this like what three or four times and finally they said you know what Bendo just go home will send you your discharge papers in 2011 I finally researched, and he finally in 2012 received his discharge papers. He never got them. Yeah so he was hoping he would get his back paycheck. I don't think they're going to give it up to him but in a whole it was a fun story and he truly never did receive discharge papers So he was hoping for some rank and extra money, but I don't think they're going to give it up.

But we're very proud of my grandfather. He turned 96 on the 23rd, so we're really excited about it that he's has this huge family and Has inspired not only our family but many, many people in Guadalupe community and Santa Maria community. And I thank everybody for this honor. It's wonderful for us as his family and we appreciate it. Thank you very much.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.7515:18

And I'd like to invite my fellow board members down to take a picture.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed15:26

And would the Guadalupe contingent like to come up and be in the picture? Come on, we're surrounding you.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.7516:24

And with that, I'd like to invite everyone to stand and sing Happy Birthday.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed16:29

Ready? Begin! Happy birthday to you,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed16:32

happy birthday to you Happy birthday Staff Sergeant Rosso,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed16:43

happy birthday to you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed16:47

Come on Papa I'll take you back to your chair.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role17:01

Oh we want to hear, so you want to say yeah? No, okay.

CommentMichelle CombsProposed · by introduction17:07

Yeah.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role17:52

Thank you again. Thank you. All right, Supervisor Hartman kicked it up a notch way to go. Let's see, so District 4 is on the clock. You're next. I think, does it go one two three four five? Yeah, something like that. So we're in there somewhere. All right, we'll figure it out. Yeah, you need somebody from the Revolutionary War or something. Literally. Okay, all right. Well, we're going to A2.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed18:34

Chair Lavinino, members of the board. Administrative item number two is sponsored by Supervisor Lavinino. It is to adopt a resolution honoring the Santa Barbara County EMS system participants for the American Heart Association 2019 Mission Lifeline EMS Gold Plus Award. And if I can have members receiving today's resolution to the podium, Nicholas Clay, Kevin Taylor, Greg Fish, Eric Nickel, Jeannie Simon, Dave Shearman, Gerald Kuras, Michael Farmer and Fernando Garcia.

And I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Whereas, the Santa Barbara County Emergency Medical Services Agency and System is being recognized by the American Heart Association including American Medical Response, Carpinteria Summerland Fire Protection District, Guadalupe Fire Department, Lompoc Fire Department, Montecito Fire Protection District, Santa Barbara City Fire Department, Santa Barbara County Fire Department and Santa Maria City Fire Department. This achievement is accomplished through the commitment of these agencies and the STEMI receiving centers Marion Regional Medical Center in Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital. And whereas the American Heart Association works to reduce heart disease and stroke over 250,000 people annually experience a STEMI, the deadliest type of heart attack caused by a blockage of blood flow to the heart That requires prompt restoration of blood flow.

EMS is often the first medical contact and has the ability to save precious minutes by quick recognition and activation of the emergency response system. The chance of survival from a sudden cardiac arrest in Santa Barbara County is one of the best in the country, at 41% exceeds the national average due to the EMS systems ability to provide high quality clinical care. And whereas the American Heart Association has developed the Mission Lifeline program to encourage collaboration between pre-hospital and hospital medical providers to ensure patients experiencing cardiac events receive the recommended care within ideal time frames. And whereas Santa Barbara County is receiving the Gold Plus Level Recognition Award, Lifeline EMS Award, currently offered by the American Heart Association.

Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors of Santa Barbara County does hereby congratulate the EMS agency and EMS system on receiving the 2019 Mission Lifeline EMS Gold Plus Level Recognition Award passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed21:06

Good morning, Chair Labognino and members of the board. Thank you for this opportunity to pause and allow us to celebrate the incredible achievements by our EMS system in saving lives during the most serious heart attacks. With me today is Nick Clay who will share a little bit about the STEMI program and to also hand out individual awards to our partners. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed21:42

Chair Lavagnino, members of the board, good morning. I am joined today as you can see by the EMS agency and our colleagues in the EMS system. Unfortunately Dr. Savucci is unable to join us today but sends his sincere appreciation for today's recognition. The EMS agency is responsible for design, implementation and evaluation of the entire EMS system ranging from policies and procedures to hospital designations.

The administration and oversight of the specialty care systems but it's the work of the people behind me today are providers who make successes like today possible. And we're here to recognize that commitment A little less than a decade ago, the EMS agency along with our pre-hospital and hospital partners embarked on a journey to enhance the care we provide for our heart attack victims and increase their survivability.

Success required an integrated approach to EMS across all spectrums of the system. It required the EMS agency to work closely with our hospitals, emergency departments, cardiac surgery teams, cardiologists, specialized folks in the hospitals and hospital administrators to reenvision the work inside of the hospital. It required technology investments by our field providers, enabling them to rapidly identify these special types of heart attacks called ST-elevation MI infarctions or more easily said STEMIs and then rapidly transmit that information to our hospitals.

And over the past decade through tireless commitment to excellence in quality improvement this STEMI system here in this county has excelled. In 2014 the American Heart Association or the AHA began to recognize prehospital agencies for their success in the STEMI program. With the Mission Lifeline Awards. Since the inception of the award, Santa Barbara County EMS Agency and system providers have received the highest of marks.

This year is no exception as we are receiving the Gold Plus Award. Out of the 21 systems in this state receiving this award only ten have received the Gold Plus Award one being Santa Barbara County. So if I can bring up Ian McClellan from the American Heart Association to help me hand out these awards, if you don't mind. We have our providers up here first representing the EMS agency. I'd like to introduce Michelle Combs, our specialty care coordinator who's really the brains and the bulk behind this work so thank you very much. Next is American Medical Response Regional Director Dave Shireman.

Next, with the Santa Maria Fire Department Battalion Chief Mike Farmer. Next with the Santa Barbara County Fire Department both Fire Chief Hartwick and EMS Administrator Jenny Simon. With the Lompoc Fire Department, Chief Gerald Kuras. And with Guadalupe Fire Department, Director of Public Safety Chief Michael Cash. And representing the Santa Barbara City Fire Department Division Chief Lee Waldron.

Not here today but receiving awards is Montecito Fire Department and Carpinteria-San Marlon Fire Department as well. And on behalf of the EMS agency staff, Dr. Salvucci, the folks you have behind you thank you very much again for today's recognition.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role25:14

All right, this is probably the safest place to be right now in the whole county. Thanks for being here today. All right that takes us to the balance of our administrative agenda. Are there any items that the public would like to pull?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed25:36

Chair Lavinino, members of the board. I have no request to speak on the administrative agenda from the

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role25:40

public. Okay so from my board I have A10 from Supervisor Adam, 16 and 21 from Supervisor Hartman. Let's go to A10.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed25:59

Chair Lavenino, members of the board. Administrative item number ten is from the county executive office. It is to consider recommendations regarding chapter 50 licensing of commercial cannabis operations, ordinance amendments and cannabis business licensing fee ordinance amendments. And this is the second reading.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role26:14

Okay and I think that's just for a roll call vote? Yeah that's right, just roll call. Roll call please. We need a motion to approve it, that would help.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed26:24

So moved.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role26:25

Moved and seconded, thank you Jacqueline. Roll call?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed26:28

Mr Hart? Aye. Ms Hartman? Aye Mr Adam?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role26:31

No.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed26:31

Mr Williams?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role26:32

Aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed26:32

Chair Lavenino?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role26:33

Aye

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed26:34

Motion passes 4-1. Okay

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role26:36

let's go to item 16.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed26:42

Chair Lavenino members of the board administrative item number 16 is from public health it is to consider recommendations regarding a tobacco control program local lead agency allocation agreement.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role26:53

Supervisor Hartman

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.7526:54

Hello, Dr. Doronoso would you come up and just I've been reading a lot about e-cigarettes and even a cluster of lung disease so I wonder if you could talk about this grant particularly in relationship to e-cigarettes?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed27:11

So this is our standard grant that allows us to work with our local jurisdictions and our community in raising awareness about tobacco products including e-Cigarettes

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.7527:26

And will we, I mean I think these are tobacco use has been going down and now we've got these e-cigarettes and suddenly we've got young people really reaching out markets specifically designing products for them even though it's unlawful to sell. Do we have anything coming up in the future in the county to address this?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed27:47

Yes, so we have been working again with the cities and we are hoping to come back in the near future. We're looking at next spring with a coordinated effort across all jurisdictions with very similar ordinances that will allow us to be on the same page in terms of messaging as well as enforcement.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role28:10

Very good. Do we need a separate vote on that at all or just highlight it? Okay, very good. All right, let's go to A21 please.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed28:18

Chair Lavenino and members of the board. Administrative item number 21 is from Public Works Board of Directors Flood Control and Water Conservation District. It is to consider recommendations regarding Cold Springs, San Ysidro, and Romero Creek Debris Basin Improvement Projects design agreements. And this is in the first district.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role28:35

Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.7528:36

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Fairam, I'm very interested in the design and how these renovated debris systems will operate. Could you explain that for us?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed28:49

Yes, Mr. Chair, Supervisor Hartman the item before you is for modification of three debris basins in Montecito which are also in the hopper right now to receive a grant from FEMA for a modification I want to pull up a picture of the Gubanador Debris Basin which was done several years ago to show how it performed in the debris flow of one nine And what this debris basin has done in the past is captured mostly fine-grained sediment that then costs an enormous amount of money to haul off and find a place to put, as we've struggled with over the last couple years. However by notching the dam, as you see in the lower left, and providing a free outflow for the sediment, what we end up doing is trapping the rock which is what we really want to trap, and overall it increases the operational effective of the debris basins.

Having this pilot, well it was really a pilot project in Gubanador Canyon performed so magnificently we want to go ahead and start to implement that on our other debris basins. It allows the finds to continue on through the sands and the silts to continue onto the ocean where they need to go And then allows us to focus on what the real hazard is, which are those rocks. And this basin just performed tremendously. You can see the fencing is all... This dam was overtopped in the debris flow like all of them were. The fencing was obviously just torn over but we stopped the rock in the debris basin and it worked exactly like we wanted it to so we want to take that and move that onto other basins in the South Coast.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role30:20

Very good, thank you for that Mr. Barron. All right, let's move on to A23.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed30:25

Chair Lavinino and members of the board, administrative item number 23 is from Public Works Board of Directors, Flood Control and Water Conservation District. It is to consider recommendations regarding financial performance security for the partnership for resilient communities debris nets project. And this is in the first district. And there is a fourthest vote on this issue.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role30:44

Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed30:46

Well, I just wanted to thank Public Works and County Council for working on this. And thank the Partnership for Resilient Communities for their work in improving safety in the areas hardest hit by the flood, the debris flow. And to summarize, A very modest and containable amount of risk on the county's part. We will be able to free up half a million dollars of the partnerships resources so that they could put up two additional debris nets, and do so before the rainy season this year which is a great compliment number one.

We'll improve safety for Montecito, but number two because of the work that we've been doing to try to do longer term work on the existing debris basins and on building a new debris basin. It complements it. The safety of the nets are provided for the next few years, and the safety provided by alterations we could do to the debris basin system could increase safety from then on out. So I find their effort really complimentary.

I think it's really needed to improve the safety of the areas hardest hit by the debris flow.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role32:13

Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.7532:14

I just had a question about these. Have these been used elsewhere in the U.S., or is this the best technology derived from elsewhere in the world?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed32:23

I think we have two folks more qualified than myself to answer that.

PresenterPat McElroyExecutive Director of Partnership for Resilient Communities and this is Joe ColeProposedself-stated32:33

Good morning, Chair Lavagnino and Supervisor Hartman. My name's Pat McElroy with the Executive Director of Partnership for Resilient Communities and this is Joe Cole also with the partnership. These are used where technology was developed in Switzerland by a company called Geobrug. They are installed all through the Western United States. Our contractor is currently in Hawaii now installing them On the North Shore of Kauai. We also installed locally in Camarillo Springs after the Springs Fire, where they had a debris flow into a neighborhood right alongside the golf course as you head up the grade into Newberry Park, Catalina Island.

They're being installed right now around Redding as a result of the fires up there and so that they've become part The standard Caltrans post fire infrastructure protection system. This is the first time they've been installed in Santa Barbara County in this type of setting, but there's rockfall nets in Gaviota and a number of other places. This technology, we've also shared up in Sacramento with the research we've done and also they're currently being installed in Topanga Canyon as a result of the Woolsey fire. So there's a number of installations throughout the western United States.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role34:01

Very good. Thank you very much. Thanks for being here this morning Okay, I don't believe we have any other items on the administrative agenda. So can I get a motion to accept the balance of the administrative agenda?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed34:16

Move

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role34:16

the consent agenda. Moved and seconded all those in favor. Aye. Any opposed they pass unanimously. All right that takes us to our public comment period how many speakers do we have this morning?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed34:29

Chair Lavinino members of the board we have six requests to speak.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role34:33

Each one will have three minutes to address the board

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed34:37

Chair Lavinino, members of the board. Our first request to speak we are going to Santa Barbara with Ed Kalaski and then return to Louisiana for LaWanda Lyons-Pruitt. Ed?

CommentMichelle CombsProposed · by introduction34:51

Thank you. Would you put the drawing up? I'm sorry, I didn't get the switch in schedule here. I thought you were meeting in Santa Barbara today. First of all, I call my speech, Will Corruption Rule Here In Santa Barbara? Or will Alex Peugeot Go? He's the chairman of the Board of Architectural Review. This first drawing shows that the second story is not located solely over the garage as contended by the board of architectural review.

This time we had an amazing statement. John, one of the members blurted out that this is all a lie. Apparently Alex told him that he did not switch drawings. We never got to show our drawing at the June 2014 meeting. Instead Alex showed our old drawing. Apparently John Verdiac believes Alex Peugeot is correct. All I have to do is produce the drawings with the correct dates on them, and he could see that Alex has been lying to him as other members have followed Alex's role.

So I hope to do that. I left off last time in the second drawing we're talking about my friend Joanne who in 2015 elected to go to Las Vegas instead of coming out to visit me in California. Unfortunately, she caught a brain disease and died within a month. And was buried. Another person, the third drawing, this is Patrick or Pat we used to call him. He used to meet at the coffee shop. He drew quite an attention of group, I'm sorry, he grew A bunch of people used to come and listen to him talk. He was quite an individual.

He had talked to me several times about trying to get a place to stay. I was always busy with writing speeches for the Board of Architectural Review. I can remember one time where I just said, I gotta get home, I gotta get it written before presenting it. He shot himself. He was left-handed. He didn't know that when you're left-handed, you've got to allow a little more room for the gun to get to your heart.

He shot himself, missed his heart and crawled along the floor and eventually died. You know, you think that just by kicking us out of a meeting in 2014 there are no cause and effects? That we have a corrupt government down there and nobody can do anything about it? Hopefully John will realize, and probably Lori, that they never saw our drawing we wanted to present back in 2014.

That Alex kicked us out of the meeting in 15 seconds. They had Dylan jump up and scream at us so we couldn't ask any questions. This is a democracy? What a mockery of justice! And he's still down there! Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed38:05

Chair Lavinino, members of the board we're going to return to Santa Maria for LaWanda Lyons-Pruitt to be followed by Sarah Listine.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed38:15

Good morning Chairman Lavinino and members of the board. You know who I am. You were my bosses once but happily retired three years ago, three and a half years ago actually and have devoted myself to doing full-time volunteer work in the community. I represent the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People For 110 years, our mission has been to ensure the social, political, educational and economic equality of all people by advocating for and removing barriers such as racial hatred and discriminations of all kind.

I stand here today to support in-home health care workers And to strongly urge you to support a wage increase and dental and vision benefits above the $12.10 wage that they're currently receiving, which is 10 cents above minimum wage and what employees at Walmart and fast food chains receive. I don't have to remind you that Santa Barbara County has a very high cost of living And that minimum wage is difficult at best and probably impossible without other forms of assistance, including multiple roommates and housemates which many frown on.

We know that the state and the feds pick up the majority of the costs associated with this program. This marks the 400th year anniversary of when the first slaves were brought to America And it's not lost on me, and I don't need to remind you of the struggle that the people of African American descent ensued over 300 years. Which brings me to why I'm perplexed, why this union is struggling to get a fair contract which is $1.20 pay increase and dental and vision that in essence paid for by the 1991 Realignment Act, then AACP is asking you and your staff to look at the program And invest in this valuable program that leaves our elderly and disabled in their home.

And so that they can continue to receive the dignity and respect that they deserve. They do not have 401ks, extra money sitting around. They need dental, they need vision, they need a decent wage. They want dental. They want a decent wage. They want someone to negotiate in good faith with them. They need your support and all of our respect and thanks for doing the work that they do, thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role41:27

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed41:36

Our next speaker is Sarah Alestein to be followed by Susie Boxley.

CommentSarah Island SteinProposedself-stated41:48

Good morning board. My name is Sarah Island Stein and I've been a provider for eight years for, I've got three clients. I've got to take care of my granddaughter. She had just passed so I'm on the bargaining team, also. Let me put on these so I can see what I've read. I've had to learn how to catheterize people. I've had to learn how to take care of a colostomy bag, something a nurse would have to do.

And a lot of times I don't have the equipment, the gloves, the pads, everything that comes along with nursing. So, we're just asking for our fair share. I've taken classes with the union for CPR and I just want to thank you for give us our fair share that's all we're asking for. And thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed43:06

Our next speaker is Suzy Boxley to be followed by Norma Alonzo.

CommentSuzy BoxleyProposedself-stated43:14

Good morning, members of the Board of Supervisors, union membership attendees and all others joining us here this morning. My name is Suzy Boxley and I am an in-home supportive services provider in Santa Maria and as well a member of the UDW Union. I care for my beloved mother Grace Being a caregiver can be quite difficult at times. It is demanding work, but I do love my mother and will do all that I possibly can do to assist her in terms of helping her in meeting all her needs and in her own home.

She is an elderly individual still functioning on our own. To an extent, but there is much care, personal care, intimate care that I do provide her with. That I believe no outside facility can match. There is that added extra TLC that I give to her. Of course, there are those senior care facilities that do operate impressively. These specific types of facilities may cost a minimum of nearly $4,000 per month.

This is no exaggeration. And if husband and wife find themselves residing together at one of these, let's say non-state or county aided senior residence, the cost for both of them will double. Of course that would be $8000 per month. Not many seniors have that kind of money in any case and based on my empirical knowledge there are significant number of seniors such as my mother who do prefer residing in their own home as they live out their golden years.

Caregivers do provide for seniors and individuals with disabilities. We make it possible in this county for recipients to live at home, and at a fraction of the cost of an institution. As far as seniors are concerned, California's senior population is expected to grow in the millions over the next decade. There exists serious concern here over this very realistic future outlook. We can continue to ask ourselves, who will care for our elderly senior citizens in the near future? Will there be a sufficient number of caregivers available? Perhaps we should place focus on the family member or friend. The provider who wishes to step forward one that has the undeniable love and compassion and training and support to provide the care of that beloved elderly individual in need.

We can collaboratively meet this endeavor in home supportive services. What needs to take place presently is the reasonable sought after wage increase, cost of living as high especially in California, specifically in the Santa Barbara County. We all do need to secure a livelihood while conducting at-home care services. I want to thank you for the anticipated attention on the subject matter at hand, and for the very serious consideration of securing a feasible wage increase for IHSS providers. We seek a win-win contract with you. That's the end result we're shooting for. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed46:16

Our next speaker is Norma Alonzo. Norma? To be followed by Stephanie Eppert who is our final speaker.

CommentNorma AlonsoProposedself-stated46:29

Good morning, my name is Norma Alonso and I take care of my daughter with special needs.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role46:35

I am in this program since four years ago.

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CommentNorma AlonsoProposedself-stated46:53

All I'm asking is that we need insurance, we need dental and vision coverage. And as providers, we need to be well as well and we are just asking for a fair increase. And we also want proper training, and it's not fair because in San Luis Obispo they are paying a fair wage. I don't know if it's because it's a different county. Because

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PresenterCarla MartinsJust Communities with the Language Justice Network and we are providing simultanProposedself-stated48:02

it is the same program, and I just want something to be fair. That's all we're asking, something that is fair. Okay, that's all. Thank you very

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role48:13

much. And

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed48:19

our final speaker is Stephanie Eppert. Stephanie.

CommentStephanie EppertProposedself-stated48:34

Hi, sorry it's a last minute put together here. I'm Stephanie Eppert, home care provider for my daughter and many seniors and other aging disability people that I've run into. Four years ago, for four years I've been stuck in this moving ever-changing hamster wheel of life. Sorry, it works all the time. Hamster Wheel of Life, 41 funerals and three of them in my backyard. The constant delay in pay that can be 22 days plus between checks causing the bills and the rent to back up.

One loss was our landlady, neighbor and only grandmother figured that my daughter knew. Because I took care of her also my rent was 975. The new owners raised it to 1600 a month plus $50 late fee every month in the constant fear of eviction. I have been duct taping bills together so long I have no more tape while paychecks randomly come and if at all I'm penalized with added deposits of $150 for the utilities.

I only say all this to give you an idea of the building storm that has me stressed and wearing on my health. There was a time before the 7% cut when for the first time, I had eye and dental. And the doctor, an anti-doctor when my blood pressure was 172 over 99. But those years have passed and for two and half years, I have no insurance. In the middle of the dental work as you can see, in the dental work, I was turned away because of my insurance lapse I paid a fortune for these glasses a long time ago, and they're just a reminder in anger that I can't get to a doctor. And all the dollar store glasses are just making it worse. Not seen as building layers of problems with the overwhelming amount of paperwork on top of or seen right.

As God is my witness, I need you to consider the 20 cent amount that we asked for. I'm so busy taking care of my daughters, seniors and other disabilities that walk through like that. And the surgeries that are coming up that I need someone to help me and that's something that I would never ask for. But I cannot see well, and I can feel the fear of seeing through a film brings. The 10% you're offering brought me here out of desperation to ask you to go deep and to find it in your hearts to make it 20 cents as ten cents will be another window that I get to walk up to and only look through.

As you look through that other parents who are single might feel the same

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed51:07

way.

CommentStephanie EppertProposedself-stated51:11

Supervisor, the difference between $0.20 and Your 20 cents is the difference between my scene and getting my sanity back. And a shadow quickly closing. And I become disabled in blindness. Supervisor Williams, you once blessed me with a Mother's Day gift of a copy of our story of me and my daughter that you submitted to pass the bill. And I hope we can remember it, the hardship that I still fight through and help us to get a plan that I can afford so I can see a real ophthalmologist before it's too late. And lastly, remember that all of you are sitting in a position to lay the groundwork for what everyone in this room will be going through.

And they'll be sooner than they think. So I hope that you can set a plan and see the 20 cents so that we can have affordable eye and dental insurance, thank you.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role52:13

Okay, that closes out our public comment period. Thank you for being here today. We'll move right into our departmental agenda. Item one please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed52:25

Chair Lavinino and members of the board, departmental item number one is from Public Health. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a waiver of retirement exclusion for Valerie Monte, occupational therapist for the Santa Barbara County Medical Therapy Program.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed52:41

Good morning, the medical therapy unit provides needed physical therapy and occupational therapy services for children who have disabling conditions. And the county is required to provide services for these children who are eligible for the program or secure it through a vendor relationship. We anticipate that disruption to these critical services may have poor outcomes for the children's health. And we're very fortunate that Valerie is interested in coming back as extra help until we can secure A permanent replacement. Just for context, we also have a physical therapist position in Santa Maria in the MTU unit and we've been recruiting since January and we had two interested candidates who ultimately decided not to take the position. So Valerie's position is in Lompoc, and we anticipate even more of a challenge until we can find a permanent replacement.

So therefore I am coming before you to ask if we can bring Valerie back as extra help for the interim.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role54:02

Okay, thank you very much Supervisor Adam. Can you tell me how much notice we had

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed54:08

that she was leaving?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed54:09

She gave us notice on July 1st, that she was retiring. And so we started our recruitment process on July 23rd.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed54:22

That's interesting. How long does it take to start a recruitment process?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed54:28

So it takes roughly for this particular position, we had to update the job spec. And so we initiated from the department, it goes to HR to approve and we work with our recruiter to update it and then it's flown.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed54:49

Well what was wrong with the job spec?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed54:52

It needed to be updated.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed54:54

Well, what specifically needed to be updated?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed54:57

I'm not sure.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed54:58

Okay,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed55:00

I'm not sure but you know within context again we did a similar recruitment for our physical therapists and it's been eight months and we have not been able to fill it

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed55:11

well here's the problem is There's kind of a perverse incentive that everybody that gives you short notice or inadequate notice, depending upon how much notice you actually need to do a viable recruitment. Everybody gets to come back, so you get to double dip. You get your retirement and then you get to come back if we can't respond in an adequate way. And I don't know how you incentivize people to Given adequate notice and maybe that's coming up with what would be adequate notice.

But these things are chronic, we keep doing it every single time almost every week we have somebody who wants to come back. And or somebody rather that we need. Sometimes they don't want to come back, right Mr. Layman? And so we just have to have them back because we haven't got anybody else. So I don't know how to maybe Mona's got some suggestion for us what we could do to not see these things all the time.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role56:41

Supervisors to the chair, I agree and we do evaluate these carefully because. I agree that the intent of the law and the reason we're coming before you in a public hearing is because we don't want to have too many of these so I agree. We've worked with the departments and there are these, we have 4200 employees, so we bring forward two times of exception. And maybe Dr. Domino's can say how long you expect this employee to be continuing to work before the replacement is found?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed57:13

I know that Valerie, out of the goodness of her heart is coming back for continuity of services, critical services to the children. Sooner than later as soon as we can find a qualified occupational therapist, we will release her from the extra help. But again, there's no telling and we're just using our experience in Santa Maria as a guide. Again, we've been actively recruiting for eight months and we have not been able to find someone given that this is in Lompoc, we anticipate even a smaller market for viable candidates.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role57:56

Supervisors, we can work with HR to look at for those that are in the situation as Dr. Devernoso to see whether tools they can employ to help the department expedite those recruitments and we could come back later working with HR on any other policies you'd like or guidance you'd like on the amount of time you'd like these limited to.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role58:16

Thank you. Okay, can I get a motion to approve item one please?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role58:20

So moved.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role58:22

Second. Moved and seconded, all those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed58:28

Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role58:29

All right let's go to item number two please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed58:32

Chair Lavinino members of the board departmental item number two is from the treasurer tax collector it is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding housing authority of the county of Santa Barbara financing of tax exempt private activity bonds for Parkside Garden Apartments.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role58:47

Mr. Hagan

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed58:50

Chair Labnino, members of the board. This item today is a TEFRA hearing for the Housing Authority of Santa Barbara County. TEFRA is Tax Equity and Financial Responsibility Act of 1982. Within that section 147 F of Internal Revenue Code provides a pathway for private entities or nonprofits to access municipal markets. And so if this feels like deja vu all over again, we've seen this before. This one came before us.

The DAC re-heard this item August 8th because costs for land acquisition and construction costs have gone up for the housing authority. So the one year had passed and so they needed to come and have another temporary hearing and recertify it. John Polanski from the Housing Authority is in Santa Barbara. If you've got any specific questions on the financing or the project itself, and he'd be here more than happy to answer any questions or myself too.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role59:50

Do I have any questions of the board? Do we have any requests to speak from the public on this item?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed59:56

Chair Lavignino, members of the board, I have no requests to speak on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:00:00

Okay, can I get a motion to approve Item 2 please?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.751:00:05

So moved

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:00:06

Second. Moved and seconded, all those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously. Okay item 3.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:00:19

Chair Lavagnino members of the board departmental item number three is from the county executive office it is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a response to 2018 through 2019 grand jury report railroad fatalities in Santa Barbara County.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:00:33

Mr. McAlpin Yes, good morning Mr. Chair and board members. CEO Miyasato asked Public Works to prepare the response that's before you today for your consideration in response to the grand jury's recent report on railroad fatalities in Santa Barbara County. I also am joined today by Lieutenant Tilts. He's here from the Sheriff's Department for any specific questions you may have with regards to enforcement.

Before we get started, One thing I'd like to note is, and as reported by the grand jury in the report, no one from Santa Barbara County itself was interviewed for this report. So just an FYI, the report was published on June 13th 2019, and our responses are due by September 11th. Within the report, the grand jury concluded that 20 railroad-related deaths that occurred in the 109 mile stretch of railroad that runs through our county during the period of 2015 to 2018 are significant and are concentrated within two small areas of track.

And within the report itself, they designate two areas as high fatality zones. High fatalities zone one is from Ortega Hill to Milpas in the city of Santa Barbara. Ortega Hill's about Summerland and then the high fatality zone 2 is from Patterson to Glen Annie Road so Zone two is completely within the city of Goleta and zone one is shared between the unincorporated county and the city of Santa Barbara.

And if you break down the 20 railroad related deaths, 19 were pedestrian trespasser incidents and then one victim was within a car at the time. The board itself is named as a responder to findings one through six, as well as recommendations one through 6A and 6B. So Mr. Chair I don't know the best way to do this. I don' want to re-read all these things so I'll try to summarize the findings and then summarize our responses if that's good?

And it's up to your board too if you just want to focus on go right to one finding or one recommendation. Cool. Absolutely, so finding one was 85% of railroad related deaths occurring in Santa Barbara County were pedestrian trespasser incidents and they occurred in those two zones HFZ1 and HF Z2 as the report mentioned. And our proposed response would be that the Board of Supervisors agrees with the finding based on the data contained in the report.

Recommendation number one is that the cities of Santa Barbara and Goleta, as well as the county of Santa Barbara and SBK meet regularly with Union Pacific Railroad to create a safety plan to reduce these trespasser deaths in these particular zones. And recommendation one has not been implemented yet but SBK has agreed to be the lead public agency and certainly the County of Santa Barbara will Sit on that committee as well. One thing we added as well was the grand jury should consider including Caltrans in that discussion because majority of the northern boundary of the UP railroad right away is highway 101 so there may be some, and I'll talk about it later, some economies of scale in there when dealing with vegetation and fencing etc.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:04:18

Mr. McLaughlin. Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.751:04:20

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I really appreciate the work that the grand jury has done in drawing our attention to this really important issue and the fact that Santa Barbara County has a higher percentage deaths than our neighboring counties. The report is described as a Santa Barbara county and it identifies two areas but there's been three fatalities in Guadalupe in a three year period given a very small population so I don't know if it's appropriate, but whether we can shoehorn into any of our recommendations a consideration of that area which isn't one of the two hotspots that they identified. But nonetheless seems very significant to me.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:05:05

Mr. Chair and Supervisor Hartman, we can certainly work with the CO's office to modify a few of these responses.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:05:13

Supervisor DeBord, I think if you want to give staff direction as part of this coordinating group working group to look at that, we certainly can. I wouldn't want to alter these responses. We are responding directly to the grand jury's report.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:05:28

Thank you, Mr. McLaughlin. Mr. Lawyer? Mr. Magazzone! I couldn't remember, sorry. It's only been eight

CommentAndy CaldwellProposed · by introduction1:05:37

and

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:05:37

a half years.

CommentAndy CaldwellProposed · by introduction1:05:38

Mr. Chair, so part of the framework that we're working under here when you see some of the terminology in these, these are all pull down menu choices from Penal Code 933.05. So when you see some of the terminology about agreeing, disagreeing wholly or partially in some of the implementation language. That's a pull down menu from the statute so that staff doesn't have a lot of latitude on the first few words of each response. Perfect, okay. Mr.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:06:04

McClellan? Yeah, Mr. Chair, board members, one last piece on recommendation 1. City of Goleta has some version of this committee going now for portions of the railroad right away within their jurisdiction and they've invited me to sit on that committee, so I've agreed to do that as well. So the next finding and the recommendation, I have some historical information too. But let me go through the finding discussion and our proposed response as well as the recommendations. The grand jury mentions that a sealed corridor has been used effectively to enhance railroad safety.

And we are proposing that we disagree partially with that because sealed corridors have been used by railroads as an effective safety measure at roadways and where sidewalks cross the railroad tracks. So if a vehicle or pedestrian is in a designated crossing, they're not considered trespassers. So as I mentioned earlier, the 20 fatalities, 19 were trespasser incidents. So not quite sure if a sealed corridor would help there. So I think the railroad has to spend some time to see how effective pedestrian safety would be with sealed corridors installed for trespasser incidents because the report doesn't really go into a whole lot of detail on that.

The recommendation that corresponds with that finding is that the cities of Santa Barbara, Goleta County and Santa Barbara and SBK collaborate with the railroad to develop sealed corridors in the two high fatality zones. And we say our proposed response will not be implemented by the county and sealed corridors are designed by railroads to enhance railroad safety at designated crossings so they must determine the effectiveness of these sealed corridors for trespasser incidents.

We looked about a decade ago through the unincorporated Montecito, Summerlin, Carp area from the city of Carp to the city of Santa Barbara. We looked at quiet zones. There's 13 crossings in that area now seven are public and when we did the study back then to install Seven sealed crossings. It was going to be anywhere in the neighborhood of three to five million dollars up front, and the annual costs were going to be in the neighborhood of $150,000-$200,000 to maintain.

That would have included upgrading all the fencing in that it's about a 6.25 mile section of the railroad. And our estimates at that time, we never really did an accurate estimate. But to upgrade the fencing on both sides of the tracks was going to be in the neighborhood of a million to a million and a half so it's quite expensive. So you can see why we are coming forward with the response that we have, that we need to prove the effectiveness of pedestrian trespass minimizing those incidents with the railroad trains coming through the corridor.

On this finding as well as finding six, we coordinated our response with Sheriff Brown's response to the grand jury. Finding three says there is a need for increased security presence to reduce trespassing within the HFZs and in other communities. This has been achieved through a memorandum of understanding with the railroad as well as local law enforcement. And the proposed responses, the Board of Supervisors disagrees partially with the finding.

We agree, I think we all agree that increased security presence is needed along the UPR right away to reduce these trespassing incidents. However, the presence of an MOU doesn't do that. So without appropriate financial resources to help the sheriff get out there and do enforcement really all we have at the end of the day is a MOU. Recommendation number three is that the Santa Barbara County Sheriff and City of Santa Barbara Police Department negotiate an MOU with the railroad. And the sheriff's office has actually completed that, and that was completed on March 26th 2019.

It does give them the authority to enter into the Union Pacific Railroad because they own, operate and maintain that infrastructure. However as I mentioned earlier without the appropriate funding the sheriff just doesn't have the resources to do that so even with the MOU they've been fairly limited as far as responding to trespass incidents within the railroad corridor.

Finding number four addresses fencing. They say that the fencing along these high fatality zones is inadequate or non-existent, we disagree partially because there are certainly some sections of fencing that is adequate and it performs fine but there are other areas with deferred maintenance with regards to the fencing, Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.751:11:26

Thank you so who's responsible for the fencing?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:11:30

That would be Union Pacific Railroad. And that's where the idea of bringing Caltrans into the picture would be helpful, because they share that responsibility between Caltrans and the railroad. And then recommendation number four is that the cities of Santa Barbara and Goleta, the county, and SPK collaborate with the railroad to repair it and install fencing to prevent easy access to the railroad.

And our proposed response is this will not be implemented by the County of Santa Barbara. We don't have authority to repair and or install fencing in the railroad right away. Finding number five addresses overgrown foliage and trees which provide a natural shelter for homeless encampments. Our proposed response disagrees partially with the finding, and we say that while overgrown foliage and trees may provide a natural shelter for homeless, UPR has generally, for the most part, managed their vegetation efficiently over the years.

And this vegetation as well, one thing we need to kind of keep in mind is the unincorporated residents and it may be the same in the cities as well. They see a value in this vegetation as well. They see it as a visual and a sound buffer for them not only from the railroad but also from Highway 101. So that leads me into recommendation number five which encourages the county, To encourage the railroad to cut back and or remove overgrown trees, foliage within the UPR right away. And our recommended response is this will not be implemented by the county of Santa Barbara because we don't have the authority to do that but if the railroad does that our recommendation would be that they would prune the vegetation back in a professional way.

It should be done hand-in-glove with Union Pacific Railroad security A plan to go in and address the homeless issues along that right away as well. Because we want to balance what our adjacent residents, unincorporated residents see as a value along that corridor as well.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:13:46

Supervisor Hardin?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.751:13:47

Thank you. Two questions. Does the Union Pacific Railway get this report once we've agreed on our responses? Does that get formally sent to them?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:14:00

Mr. Chair, I don't know for sure but Union Pacific Railroad was interviewed for this report so I'm assuming through that process they would probably get a copy of the report and the responses from the agencies

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.751:14:11

Yeah, I hope the grand jury or the county or somebody sends a formal. And and I just wondered what are is there a manual? Or what are the best practices for maintaining trees and vegetation along railroad tracks? I just got my notice from the fire department that I gotta limb up some things it seems you could still keep the screening feature but make it less attractive for people to camp out if you if there were best practices in best planting So that there wasn't a lot of shrubbery on the ground.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:14:45

And Mr Chair, that's something we could certainly bring to the table. We have an arborist on board that can help me with those standards. My thought is getting it three or four feet off the ground so railroad security forces could see if people were sleeping there and they'd be able to identify the hot spots if you will. Supervisor Williams?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:15:06

Well, I want to just examine a couple of these. And first of all in agreement with Supervisor Hartman's question on sort of at very least we could try to let people know the need for the foliage upkeep. In some of these cases where The grand jury has identified something that is a need, but maybe we don't feel isn't completely on the right track as to what the solution is.

We typically say on these, we disagree partially and I wanted you to maybe reiterate why we don't say we agree partially, because my understanding is that's treated a little bit differently in the grand jury's responses. But just for lay people out there could you reiterate the difference? Or-

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:16:14

Supervisors to the Chair, this is exactly what Mr. Gazzani was saying at the beginning of the meeting that our responses are prescribed and you can agree or disagree partially which means you agree partially but it's phrased as disagree partially and I know that sounds harsh but those are our choices or that we disagree.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:16:33

And that's always driven me crazy because I try Constructive criticism constructively. However, one of the things that this makes me think of is if one of the real issues about the railway corridor is the inadequacy of public safety resources in general. Is it would be a crazy idea for us to include in this question both staff and the board members. Would it be crazy of us to say, well we would try to include in our budget more Resources for patrol if Union Pacific were to do the same. Essentially, just sort of an offer to partially match an increase in effort and I just want to put that out there. Is that a crazy idea? Is that something to be added later or is that something that we could put into this?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:17:40

Supervisors, in any of your responses this is your time if you'd like us to amend the responses. We could and we can figure out the appropriate time just to say that we'll be evaluating this and looking at resources as we always do at budget to see what other actions could be taken. So we could say we'll be evaluating it through our budget process for any additional resources that may be necessary.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:18:13

But I would, I would propose that we add into one of these recommendations. I suppose it could be recommendation or response to recommendation three or recommendation probably three would be the most appropriate. The offer to Consider matching an increased effort by Union Pacific and make sure that Union Pacific gets that message. I think that Typically, our challenge here is that Union Pacific is a very large organization. And if we got their attention then that might help make progress on a number of these issues even if it required some additional presence or funding for sheriff's presence on our part.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:19:19

Mr Chair and Supervisor Williams? Certainly work with the CEO's office to do that and look at options there. The other thing that I mentioned was SBK is taking a leadership role here to put all the parties together, hopefully bring the cities together, the county together, Caltrans, UPR. We can also bring that topic up at the table and see if other agencies are willing to participate as well.

Supervisor Hart?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:19:44

Yeah, I just wanted to say what Mr. McAulpin did which is that if SPCAG is going to convene a group to work with Union Pacific and come up with the strategic safety plan including all the other jurisdictions it makes sense for us to kind of work collaboratively with that process rather than stepping out ahead of that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:20:04

I'd be comfortable with that if we just highlighted that as a possibility of sort of, if one of the key issues is lack of resources dealing with the court or from a law enforcement perspective. Or from a security perspective that we kind of offer some leadership in the convening by saying hey, you know, we try to find funds if you guys tried to find the funds.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:20:31

On this way, I think from my perspective. I think some of this has to do with the next grand jury report as well is that I think we are making a significant commitment to this in that. I think 11 of the 20 were suicides which is a definite somebody's having some serious mental health issues and so as we ramp into the next grand jury report about what we're doing to address mental health.

That's going to be a significant challenge as well, so these two really do tie together. So let's move on to, is it short number six?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:21:10

Yes. Mr. Chair and board members, finding number six is video surveillance cameras provide increased observation of activity by pedestrian trespassers and homeless encampments within the UP right away. And again following the format before us, the Board of Supervisors disagrees partially because cameras can't do it alone. Cameras certainly are valuable, everybody agrees. What's the appropriate spacing? What type of cameras do we need? Those are all important technical decisions that need to be made but without the security resources to go in there and address what you see through the video feed then we think the effectiveness is going to be minimum.

Recommendation 6A, cities of Santa Barbara and Goleta, the county SBK, encourage Union Pacific Railroad to install and monitor video surveillance cameras on poles every mile within the high fatality zone. Recommendation six A. Our proposed response would be it is not to be implemented by the county of Santa Barbara because UPR is solely responsible for the operation and maintenance of their right-of-way.

Also, there was no technical information in the report to say that a mile is the right distance so until we see some report on that because as your board knows Detection on our traffic signals and on foggy mornings on the South Coast, sometimes our cameras can't see to the other side of the street. So what's the most effective spacing for these cameras? And again that's something we could discuss at the SPCAG-led committee.

And I believe the final recommendation is 6B. County of Santa Barbara and the cities, together with Union Pacific Railroad establish a schedule to monitor the video surveillance cameras between 11 AM and 7 PM as that's when most of the fatalities appear to be occurring. 6B again will not be implemented by the county of Santa Barbara. And if cameras are installed, UPR should monitor those and perhaps some of the creative ideas we heard from the dais today get employed through this process and that helps us kind of get where the grand jury wanted to go with this recommendation.

And Mr. Chair, board members, that concludes my presentation. The recommendations are on the screen for your consideration

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:23:35

and thank you. All right, thank you very much. Do we have requests to speak from the public?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:23:40

Chair Lavinino, members of the board, we have no requests to speak on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:23:45

Supervisor Hart.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:23:46

Yeah, another element to this and it's not directly related to the grand jury's report in our response to it. But is the incident when it occurs on the tracks and there is a fatality and the sheriff's coroner has to respond to clear that accident scene. Making sure that we have the right resources to be able to do that as fast as possible is really important part of the response to these kind of incidents. The folks that are on the train are stuck until that event occurs and And the California Highway Patrol has a very fast response system that they have for accidents and fatalities occur on state highways. And I just ask our sheriff's department to take a look at that, and see if there's anything can be done to improve the responsiveness of that.

If there's any procedural elements that the highway patrol uses to make that work more effectively on highways it could be transferred over to railroads. It's something that in my role as the representative for the Santa Barbara County Association of Governments on the Losan Board has come up in a regional context, statewide. That this is a significant challenge to making sure that trains run on time and people are able to get where they need to go when these kind of incidents happen.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:24:59

Okay, anybody else? Any other questions, concerns? Once again as always we always appreciate the grand jury report. It's very helpful highlighting an area that we all know is an issue and there were some really good recommendations there. I look forward to hearing from SB CAG and how we're going to address these moving forward, so. Can I?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:25:22

Yes. Supervisor before you make the motion could you just say we've heard some direction about looking at ensuring maybe as part of the collaborative process that Mr. McAlpin or his staff will sit on with SB CAG and Caltrans. Ensuring that the site is cleared after an accident to ensure that trains can run on time. Looking at the safety issues along the corridor in Guadalupe.

And we can do that as part of that process. Just please clarify whether you would like us to amend any of the responses?

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:25:51

I think our responses are obviously kind They're always kind of stuck in a box whenever we respond to the grand jury, but I think what's more important is what kind of activity that this generates. And I think we've given direction to staff and Heard what we had to say, so unless there's some change that anybody else would like to make. I think we did a good job in our responses as unfortunately as tight as they have to be. But hope grand jury members can take back the message was received by the board and we are working on it and we will continue to work with SPCAG. Is there a motion to move forward?

There was no public comment, yeah.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.751:26:45

I move staff's recommendation.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:26:50

Moved and seconded, all those in favor? Aye. Anybody opposed? Okay let's take a ten minute break we'll come back with item two in just a few minutes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:30:35

Good morning. Yeah. Yeah. You.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:37:05

Yeah. Okay, let's wait for Dr.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:38:46

Blake.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:39:10

Let's move on to item number two please.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:39:12

Chair Lavinino, members of the board, departmental item number four is from the county executive

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:39:17

office. It is a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:39:19

hearing to consider recommendations regarding a response to the 2018-2019 grand jury report, Children and Youth in Crisis, Weathering the Storms of Mental Disorders and Emotional Disturbances.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:39:37

There we go. Good morning, I'm very grateful to Scott McAulpin for going before me and orienting you to this format. So this is the title of the grand jury report and I will go through our analysis in reviewing their findings and recommendations. So the report was published June 13th of this year And their conclusion on this report was that there's a need for greater mental health resources in the county for children and youth.

And the Board of Supervisors are named as responders to the findings and recommendations listed on the slide before you, so we will be reviewing those. Finding number one was that there are no crisis stabilization units for children and youth in Santa Barbara County as an alternative to out of county hospitalizations. And before I go any further, I want to note that Crisis Stabilization Unit or CSU is a very specific service that is certified by the state of California.

An outpatient service where an individual can stay for up to 24 hours, but not longer. And the services reimbursed for 20 hours and not more. And so this is a relatively new service that we offer in our county. We have one crisis stabilization unit. It is a voluntary unit for adults and it's on the county campus in South County. So just as a clarification. That's what the service is.

So our recommendation is that the Board of Supervisors agrees with the finding there is no CSU for children in this county. The grand jury recommendation was that the Board of Supervisors direct the Department of Behavioral Wellness to pursue the establishment of a licensed crisis stabilization unit that can accommodate adults, children and youth in Santa Maria So the response the department is recommending is that this recommendation not be implemented. The Department of Behavioral Wellness will not be implementing a crisis stabilization unit as the CSU is not the best model for Santa Barbara County needs. Due to both the length of stay limitations on a CSU as well as services allowed within that type of service and the financial sustainability of that model.

The department is working to implement an alternative model of crisis stabilization beds By developing agreements with existing short-term residential therapeutic programs, which are referred to by their initials as STRTPs for crisis stabilization beds.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:42:36

So Dr. Glickhorn is there? So the difference between It sounds like they almost do the same thing, but can you just kind of lay out what the difference is between a CSU and an STRTP? So it's length of stay voluntary. I mean, just kind of give us that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:42:54

Certainly, Chair Lavagnino. So just as a bit of background, the whole area of foster care and services for children has been undergoing a dramatic change over the past three years Resulted All group homes had to make a decision about whether they were going to become facilities that have more robust mental health services embedded within them, and that is the model of STRTPs. And so I already described what a CSU is. STRTP's children can stay there when they're in a crisis for up to 30 days.

And then they can also stay there for much longer periods of care as long as there are regular check-ins on their progress. So, for some children home is not the safe environment that they should go to so they need an alternative place to stay but it shouldn't in our view be a very temporary state. It should be somewhere where they can reside and get the support that they need for that period of crisis. So the STRTPs are designed to fill that role, but because again this is a new model and group homes are going through this transition. We have several programs within the county that are endeavoring to become these licensed and certified STRTPs with embedded mental health services, but they're somewhere on the continuum of getting that approval.

So we're in the process of working with those.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:44:45

And is there a limit on the size of STRTP's?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:44:49

I believe they get licensed with a designation for the number of beds and there are required staffing patterns. I don't have the details on those.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:45:00

Supervisor Hart?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:45:02

Are you concerned that in this transition where the regulatory environment's changing, that there's going to be a gap in services as this evolves?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:45:12

Supervisor Hart through the chair, I have been concerned about the way this entire process was generated at the state level and how it's impacted all the local counties. It has been a struggle for many of our existing resources to become the new thing that they need to become. And I think there was a gap in knowledge as well. You know, I think there was an assumption for many of the group homes that they could just rename themselves and in actuality they need to hire and employ a higher level of staffing than they had ever had to before. And the messaging wasn't done very well from the state level. So some thought that they could just kind of change their names and that the county would provide all those services, and that's really not what the model is.

It's been several years that we've been working on this but some of the facilities in county are making progress to become what they need to become. But yeah, we have been concerned I think the county and social services and our department, and these programs have been doing their best to address the needs so we don't lose any kids and have them fall through the gaps. But it has been a trying transition.

Thank

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:46:33

you. Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:46:34

And the timeline for us to have these would be within the year, to have these short-term residential therapeutic beds.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:46:44

Supervisor Williams to the chair as we go through these slides you'll see some different designated Timelines for accomplishments of different things. So if it's okay, just go through the slides and you'll see For this

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:46:58

I just wanted to get on it because Mr. Hart brought up the question of whether we would have a Something in the interim and my understanding is that that There are some facilities that we have used before That are close to the county That will be licensed Probably first for this. Cost Pacifica and Ventura, which has been traditionally a good facility so there are some other options right for interim efforts is that the case?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:47:33

Supervisor Williams through the chair we do have some options and Local providers who have gotten at least preliminary approval. Some of them are very focused on particular populations, such as girls who have been sexually exploited and so those wouldn't necessarily be appropriate for every child that might need a crisis service. But we do have a couple facilities that are able to do some of these things but there is a longer road for them to get to the highest level of care that we're ultimately looking for.

Okay, I'm going to proceed. Finding number two there are no licensed temporary shelter care facilities for children and youth in Santa Barbara County as an alternative to out of county hospitalizations and we agree with this finding. The recommendation for this finding is that the Board of Supervisors direct the Department of Behavioral Wellness to explore partnerships with community agencies to sponsor and maintain licensed temporary shelter care facilities for children and youth in Santa Barbara County.

So, this recommendation has not yet been implemented but will be implemented in the future by October of 2020. The department is currently working in partnership with county Department of Social Services To develop a request for proposals for what's called therapeutic foster care and that will be issued in October 2019. So these are services that are reimbursable by Medi-Cal, this is the model that's appropriate to respond to this issue and we're making good progress towards implementing that service.

Finding number three, the crisis call in phone service and mobile crisis staff of both the contracted provider safety and the Department of Behavioral Wellness's access 24-7 mobile crisis teams often do not respond to the scene of a crisis or return phone calls in a timely manner. The Board of Supervisors disagrees partially with the finding. This is the recommendation. At times mobile crisis staff were not able to respond in a timely manner. However, this issue has been corrected by expanding staffing and co-locating the access screening team to a centralized location. So I will note that when we're responding to the grand jury, the grand jury often conducts an investigation over a period of time. And so sometimes when the report is finally issued, we've already moved to correct some of the issues and this is the case here.

Recommendation 3A, that the Board of Supervisors direct the Department of Behavioral Wellness to establish and implement measurable response times and to track and evaluate the efficacy of their crisis response services. And this recommendation has been implemented. While components of this finding may have been valid at the time the investigation was conducted it is no longer accurate. Since the investigation was conducted the access screening team has Located to a centralized location and has expanded staffing so this data is regularly collected by that team.

Recommendation 3B, that the Board of Supervisors direct the Department of Behavioral Wellness to require its contracted partner safety to respond in the field for face-to-face evaluations more quickly and frequently. The recommendation has been implemented. Behavioral Wellness met with Casa Pacifica, who is the contractor for safety program in the summer of 2018 to address this concern. As a result of this conversation, safety has increased direct care staffing in the field to improve response times as well as the ability to respond in person rather than limited to over the phone.

Finding number four, the safety mobile crisis workers do not ride 55-85 holds in a timely manner because they lack authority to do so without first consulting a supervisor. And we agree with the finding. The recommendation is that the Board of Supervisors direct the Department of Behavioral Wellness to require the crisis response staff of the contracted provider safety to receive more training to acquire the authority to write 5585 holds independently and in a timely manner. And this recommendation has already been implemented. While this finding may have been valid at the time that investigation was conducted, it is no longer accurate. The recommended training for safety was completed in December of 2018 and while the time taken to hospitalize a youth on a 5585 hold Takes longer than it would be the case for adults.

Casa Pacific has embedded training on actions which can expedite this process. Finding number five, the Department of Behavioral Wellness does not keep readily accessible data on the numbers of children on 5585 holds hospitalized out-of-county where they are sent their length of stay in each facility and the cost of their treatment. In this case We disagree wholly with this finding. The Department of Behavioral Wellness tracks this data, including the number of children on 5585 holds hospitalized out-of-county, their location, length of stay in each facility and the cost of their treatment and we can make this data available to the grand jury if it's still desired.

So Recommendation 5 that the Board of Supervisors direct the Department of Behavioral Wellness to design and implement a computerized record of the 5585 holds that are written, where the children are hospitalized out-of-county, their length of stay in each facility and the cost of their treatment. This recommendation has been implemented. The department began compiling this data through the Quality Care Manage Department In 2014, and we track this data as referenced including the number of children on 5585 holds hospitalized out of county. Their location length of stay and as available the cost of their treatment Finding six, the Children's Triage Program staff interacts with children and youth in crisis and their families in the emergency rooms.

And works to ensure community reintegration and linkage to behavioral health services upon discharge from the ER or psychiatric hospitals. The Children's Triage Program is a grant that we received recently, and we'll talk a little bit more about that. But we agree with this statement, this finding. Recommendation 6A, that the Board of Supervisors direct the Department of Behavioral Wellness to evaluate the efficacy of the new crisis triage program by keeping statistics on the number of children served and process outcomes.

And this has been implemented. This is a grant program. It began in January of 2019. And so part of the grant is to do an evaluation of the efficacy of Behavioral Implemented as it is not warranted, as the department began implementation of a modified model for children's triage in August of 2019. So Cottage Health and the Children's Crisis Triage Program staff will be working collaboratively to coordinate care for all youth and families experiencing mental health crisis. That requires intervention in Cottage Health Santa Barbara Emergency Department.

The Children's Triage Program, we've brought that grant through the board before so as you may recall the triage program funded county children staff experts in crisis to be embedded within emergency departments from the point that we submitted the grant and actually got the award Cottage hired their own psychiatrist, so they actually have the ability to do this themselves within the hospital. And so in North County we have our staff in the Marion Emergency Room and they're implementing the grant as written and we reached agreement with Cottage that They would provide the service within the hospital that we would work collaboratively on finding placement and tracking and following the children once they're out of the emergency room. And they will provide us with the data that's required by the grant, so that's why the implementation of this will be slightly different in South and North County.

Recommendation 6C, that the Board of Supervisors direct the Department of Behavioral Wellness to integrate the funding of the Children's Triage Program into the Department of Behavioral Wellness budget on an ongoing basis. And this recommendation requires further analysis. As a department, we have a positive history of sustaining grant funded programs to the extent that those are programs that prove to be effective and warrant being sustained.

So we have every intention at this point of working to sustain this program if it meets those criteria after the end of the three year grant funding period. But the analysis of the ability to sustain this funding will be taking place during the period of the grant life and we'll be exploring other funding options which arise over time. Finding number seven, Online comprehensive information on mental health services, community supports and resources for children and youth who are experiencing a crisis in Santa Barbara County is not readily available on the central website.

This finding we disagree with wholly. The Department of Behavioral Wellness website includes this information. Recommendation 7 that the Board of Supervisors direct the Department of Behavioral Wellness to design, post and keep current an online dashboard that provides comprehensive contact information on mental health services and community resources for children and youth in all geographic areas. of Santa Barbara County and publicize this resource to the community at large. Well, this recommendation has already been implemented. We have information on all these resources for children and youth publicized on the Behavioral Wellness website. It's shared in a monthly director's report at monthly outreach events and resource tables. It is shared through public speaking engagements and trainings and shared through the school system with students parents and teachers So recommended actions for the board is to consider and adopt the responses set forth in attachment A as the Board of Supervisors response to the 2018-19 grand jury report.

Entitled, Children and Youth in Crisis Weathering the Storms of Mental Disorders and Emotional Disturbances. Attachment B and authorize the chair to sign the letter included in attachment A and forward the letter in responses to the presiding judge of Santa Barbara County Superior Court. And determine pursuant to CEQA guidance that the above actions are not I have one.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:59:57

And it's not so much a question, but it's just that this department has gone through so many changes in the last couple of years. Positive that I know we do this a lot, so I kind of hesitate to ask for this. But I think it would be helpful at least for me and Is it, it almost feels like I need a resource map of not just brick and mortar. But where things exist now with crisis teams and those types of things so that you can look at it and say okay, I know we got a crisis stabilization unit here. This is where an STRTP is going in or where we're talking about it.

It might be helpful, don't have to do it today in the next week. But I think it would be helpful in the next couple of months that we come back to the board at some point and just, you know, I'm looking at the website right now and it does. It lists all these things but maybe it's just a visual that would be more helpful for me of just saying okay. We've changed so many things, we've added so many services. We've changed things. It would just be nice to know where everything is for me.

So, Supervisor Horton?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.752:01:13

I was thinking, I'm drawing here trying to get a flow chart and understand how it works and how much demand and where are the gaps if any. So I guess, just check me. I'll try to do this quickly but we might make a call to the number on our website and that might bring a mobile crisis team to one's home and they would decide whether one of four options 5585 hold in which case somebody would go out of county or they might One of these group therapeutic homes or a specialized foster care, or just connecting to services with follow-ups. So those are kind of the four options I guess. Or they might go instead of calling the mobile unit they might go directly to an emergency room slightly different programs north and south but there's a specialized team there to try to deescalate and again figure out one of those four options so I think I've got it in my head and you're nodding so I guess I have it right But what I don't have is any sense of, do we need in-county services for the 5585 holds?

How many beds do we need for these others now? We're gathering the information and we don't need it today but I would very much like to have that mapped out. And I think it would be helpful, our website is really comprehensive. But it's not visual, so having something that's easier for people in crisis to kind of grasp in one gestalt look, I think would be really helpful. I don't know if the county, when private companies have an opportunity they're getting all these website names, domain names.

And then people can find them very easily. I don't know if we do anything like that but whether that's something to think about when you're in crisis so those are my thoughts.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:03:21

Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:03:23

Well, I like Supervisor Labanino's thought of doing a flow chart for us because it is complex. Though I have to say when I looked at these websites, I found them very navigable. I think it's a good method put it by target population, right? So a user knows what resources are for them or at least close to what resources are for them. How could they have gotten to this finding? Is this well navigable website with this good materials, plus of course a banner first thing for people in crisis just wear it all.

Is that relatively new or did they just miss it or what happened?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:04:19

Supervisor Williams, the chair. You know I do not know how the grand jury reached that conclusion. I will say that we have been very intentional in the way that the website is designed in that. The one and only number you see when you pull up the website is the number that you're supposed to call whether you're in crisis or you want to access services because I wanted to avoid people trying Page through and figure out where they're supposed to go. If they call that number, that service does it for you? They ask all the right questions we figure out is this on an emergency level kind of call do we need to Is it less urgent and you're just seeking, are you just looking for information? We go through all of that with the callers and triage the information appropriately.

And then connect you to what you need so you don't even have to figure out if this is the number for children or adults. You just call the number and we figure out what the next step is because I really didn't want anyone to be trying to fumble through the webpage when they were in the middle of needing help urgently. So that is deliberate And we had changed the appearance. It's either red or orange. It's supposed to be right in the middle of the page, but that's very intentional if If someone really just wants to see the scope of our services and peruse things for a while, you can tab through and look. And there are different sections for adult and children's. There is information in it does tell you is this in north south west where is the service?

And there's other ways to contact those providers whether it's a CBO or the county directly but we so that should have been available and the grand jury should have seen that. So I'm a little confused why they didn't See that there, but you know we can certainly look at the way the website is designed and see if there are any upgrades and do focus groups to see if there's some other way that we could make that more obvious. But it is very intentional on our part. We did create this centralized access group that went into effect I want to say it was October 2017, but I may be off by a year where all that data now is collected. And so we know how many calls that come in are urgent, how many are routine and what the next step is because we can follow what the callers were referred to and whether they showed up for the next step.

So we have all that in place.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:06:56

And then, I don't know if this is nitpicky but on recommendation 6B. If we are implementing a modified model for the children's triage program why wouldn't we just say that this recommendation is being implemented?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:07:26

I'm trying to get to the finding. Well, we agree with the finding that that's what they do so I think the difference is that the original model was that they would be in the emergency room and so it's a partial agreement because in fact we're in several emergency rooms but not the South County Emergency Room. And I don't know if Mr. Gazzone would like to comment on the way We've phrased this one, but I think we were in agreement that this was the way we needed to address the question by the Grand Jury.

CommentAndy CaldwellProposed · by introduction2:08:06

Mr. Gazzani? Chair and Supervisors, yes. I think with the limited pull down menu of 933.05, this is our recommendation and we were involved in drafting this.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:08:17

And the reason that would be sufficient is because Cottage has the ability to, is the one hospital that has the ability to do this on their own.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:08:28

Supervisor Williams through the chair. The intent of the grant was to get specialized mental health experts into the emergency room more quickly so that children and families would have that resource available, that environment. The other hospitals didn't have the resources to do that and so the grant is filling that need. Cottage went ahead and hired their own and they have that resource within their staffing pattern now. So the goal has been met both ways it's just that Cottage did it on their own and the other hospitals are utilizing the resources provided in the grant.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:09:06

Supervisor Hart.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:09:08

Yes, in regard to finding three, the grand jury said that there is a delay in answering the phone and getting timely services. And then your response was that may have been the case at the time but since then that the screening team's been co-located to a centralized location and staffing has been expanded. Is there any kind of analysis or auditing or survey work that gets to that?

Methodologically evaluates the effectiveness of that change and responsiveness.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:09:45

Supervisor Hart through the chair, we were aware that there were concerns by the hospitals about both the response time and the activities of the safety team because the hospitals had informed us and we were getting other calls so Proactively met with safety to consider the model that we had in place and to change the way they were doing their business with us so that we really consolidated the resources and the activity of safety.

To a prescribed set of business hours and then the after hours we now cover with our mobile team. So because they were having trouble providing that staffing, you know from like The later hours of the evening through the morning so we just shifted the model so that we could be available to respond more quickly We do track Timely response as part of our overall data that we need to do. So I'll say there, that data is available. I haven't looked at it specifically with regard to when we put our new model in place but we put the model in place because we were trying to be responsive to feedback from the community so and it just happened to coincide with with the grand jury doing this work

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:11:13

It would be nice, I mean it's extra and I don't know if that fits in the time frame to quantify that and speak directly to that. And say we evaluated that situation, we work with safety to better more accurately allocate the staffing needed to do that. And as a result of that, the timeliness of response has been Quantifiably fixed that would be a great extra level to this but I don't know if that fits with the timing.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:11:45

So Supervisor Hart through the chair, I guess another way that we're looking at this is that now that we have the children's triage program in place we are collecting the data on the activities of those staff and we've got you know data that we're turning in for the grant so we can look at that as well they can provide that as well

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:12:06

Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:12:08

Yeah, I would just love to see that when it becomes more available because I think the ability to answer the calls in a timely manner is just crucial for all of the work of referral to the right resources. It breaks down if we don't get that part right.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:12:28

Do you

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:12:30

have any requests to speak from the public?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:12:32

Chair Lavinino, members of the board we have one request to speak on this item and we will go to Santa Barbara for Manuel Casas. Manuel?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:12:50

Good morning Chairman Lagomarsino and members of the board. I appreciate your giving you the time to speak a few minutes here this morning. I'm here as a professor emeritus who has worked for 45 years at UCSB as a specialist in the area of multicultural psychology, and in particular of counseling clinical and school psychology. I've also worked with many non-profits and also with the committees.

My position today is here to represent the Latino community because for all accepted purposes, we are excluded from this report. So I would like to just start from the beginning again, really briefly. You're all familiar with the statistics so I don't have to repeat them for you that this county is predominantly Latino are getting there even faster than you can imagine with or without deportation.

You know that the children that represent the school board, the majority of them are Latino. from a variety of backgrounds, not just one group. So when I give my comments, I'm not only talking about the generality of the population on which this study was based, the research on how it was developed Which in the past, whether it's coming from wellness or from whomever has been dismal and not very accurate and just done because it's required.

And this is another example of that type of report that really does not help my community at all. So my perspective is that this report should be taken back and redone. Totally redone, and it should be some explanation from a statistical perspective as to how things are done. And who collected the data? And who selected? Because if you look at the whole report Its validity, the whole aspect of it regarding the population on which it's based. The contents of the report, the validity of the report, the reliability of the report, the generalizability of the report, the utility of your report is a joke.

I'm sad to say that because we do need the data that such a report could provide and I truly believe that behavioral wellness could do a much better job than what it's doing at this point. We held a meeting last week with 30 parents, Latino parents and they expressed many of these issues but from their perspective. And if you listen to them it's totally different than what you're getting out of this report. When you talk about we have non-profits who are doing this or that how much control do we have over what these nonprofits are doing? They're taking money out of the community, but how much are they actually doing? When you were talking about the last speaker when you asked about the response time. I have worked with families where I take the calls and it is a joke for some issues.

First of all- Dr. Casas can you wrap up

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:16:32

please? You're over your time if you could just wrap up.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:16:37

Well, I know. I'll close up then and say that garbage in, garbage out. If you want to press out a garbage report, proceed with what it's like. If you really want to serve over half of the community that you're supposedly representing, go back to the board, go back to your offices and do a good job please.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:17:00

Okay any other requests to speak?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:17:06

That was our only request to speak on this item. Okay,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:17:08

Supervisor Williams? Well I should also mention that the professor was also a first district appointee for the Behavioral Wellness Commission in the past and I thank him for his service. I think the point he brings up does bring me to the conclusion that what we probably should do is in the metrics for Whatever analysis and metrics that you're coming up with for the response time, for safety and for the call-in number. That maybe we analyze those that have disclosed Latino surnames and see if we're getting differential results for that population. And to ensure that we're not getting differential results for that population. Maybe break that down if that's technically feasible.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:17:59

Supervisor Williams to the chair, to the extent that's possible we can do that. I will say that the model for the children's triage program not only has mental health professionals in the emergency room but it also has what we call parent partners. So these are staff who have personally been through the same type of situation within their own family. So that we pair them with parents who are in the emergency rooms with their children. So that they're able to really work with people who resonate with their problem and are able to reassure them and help them connect to the services once they're out of the emergency room, and help them get exactly where they need.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:18:42

And so there are cultural competency elements of our work that might not be cited in the response, because this of course isn't a report. It's our response to a grand jury report. If there are things missing in the grand jury report, we definitely agree. The grand jury is of course constrained by their level of technical expertise so they try to highlight issues and I also want to mention that we appreciate that grand jury highlights issues and That they've highlighted is youth mental illness. There's a lot of work yet to be done, but I'm also appreciative of the opportunity it gives us to highlight some of the progress that we're making.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:19:34

Supervisor Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.752:19:35

Thank you, Mr Chair. I really appreciate the grand jury's work. They are lay people and they are flagging things for us to look at and this isn't the only way we respond but I would like a takeaway just big picture What are the key gaps? We're in a time of transition and so we're filling these, we're putting a more comprehensive system in place. But is this now a comprehensive system and what's the takeaway? What's the big need yet?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:20:13

Supervisor Hartman through the chair. Yes, I do think that we've been working very hard to create a system where we can be much more rapidly responsive, connect people after their moment of crisis into longer term appropriate levels of care. I think there are still things as we discussed earlier being built within the child welfare system and with the STRGPs and other services That will help fill some levels of need.

We do not have inpatient hospitalization for children in this county, and I don't believe that we have the means to create that. Just data wise, in the last year we had about 54 children who had the highest level of of evaluation applied to them. About 12 of those were later rescinded, the holds were rescinded. About 11 of those were privately insured and went out-of-county to other hospitalizations. And then we had about nine hospitals involved in taking care of the remainder of those children.

You know, to me it is interesting that we have such a broad number of hospitals for these kids and some of that's due sometimes to specialized needs that you could only get a certain type of service at UCLA or some other hospital. But I don't think the county Really has the ability to open a child's psychiatric hospital here. I just think that that is You know again we had maybe 40 That we would have hospitalized in County and it just doesn't pencil out that you would develop an entire Hospital since our county is so small in that respect So I think really the gaps that we want to focus on are the ones that are going to be more broadly utilized in And those will be the STRTPs, the use of stabilization beds at the STRTPs. And then again making sure we've got good connections to the ongoing levels of care and therapeutic foster care and things like that.

So again this has been a time of change for really some elements of this system. And we have been working closely with the community to make sure we've got the right things in place so I'm hoping that was a succinct summary. That rambled a little bit, I apologize but-

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:22:59

Supervisor Hart?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:23:00

Yeah, I think that was actually very helpful. And in addition to that, in the report from the grand jury they talked about some of the things that are evolving in their report and they didn't have the ability that we have now at this moment in time to realize how effective the co-response team has been in deescalating these kind of situations and the additional training that the Sheriff's Department officers are all getting as well in mental health services and training.

Are also paying big dividends. So there are many things that are evolving and moving in the right direction, and all of us share your commitment to making those happen more quickly and more comprehensively. The concern from the community that we need better services is true. We do, and it's a funding constrained problem, and we're doing the best we can. And the department's getting grant funding to help meet that challenge. So these are all parts of the solution.

It's helpful, I think for the grand jury to focus on issues like this and to bring this to attention so that the community can see what progress is being made on important issues like this.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:24:03

Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:24:05

I thought that was a great summary but I would just add to that and it is the county's goal to create more beds. It may not be in the category that one other entity wants, but the overall desire is to create that more robust continuum of care where we have the appropriate beds available As close to the county as possible and in the most sustainable cost structure, and usually that means beds that we control. So that is really the holy grail for the future of the department.

So the spirit of this report is something that we very much are trying to move forward on. The specifics, we have some different ideas about how to achieve it but the spirit is very much taken I think in a constructive manner and is where we're trying to go.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:25:10

All right, outstanding. Once again we thank the grand jury and highlighting an issue that's on the forefront of all of our minds and working hard and making progress on so. So we've got some recommendations that need to be moved. Can I get a motion?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.752:25:29

I move staff's recommendation.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:25:32

Second? Second by Supervisor Hart. All those in favor, aye. Any opposed? Great. Passes unanimously. Thank you very much Dr. Gleyhorn. We're going to move to the item six. Is it six? We're going to skip five just real quick. Do a quick six. We are coming back to five don't worry. Six is going to take two minutes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:26:01

Chair Lavinino, members of the board. Departmental item number six is from Community Services. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding Monterey Bay Community Power Authority Board of Directors appointments.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:26:11

All right. Good morning. Two minutes, lot of pressure here. Good morning, Chair Lavinino and members of the Board of Supervisors. I'd like to introduce Ashley Watkins, the division chief of our Sustainability Division who will be presenting on appointments to the Policy and Operations Board of the Monterey Bay Community Power Authority.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:26:29

Chair Lovenino, members of the board. On August 13th 2019 the Board of Supervisors adopted ordinance number 5086 authorizing the implementation of a community choice energy program in the unincorporated area of Santa Barbara County and on that same day your board also adopted resolution number 19-209 requesting membership in the Monterey Bay Community Power Authority or MBCPA Which is a joint powers authority that operates an existing CCE program.

The governing bodies of MBCPA consist of a policy board of directors and an operations board of directors. As a member of MBCPA, the county will be allocated one seat on each of those boards. Today, staff would like to recommend that the Board of Supervisors appoint one member of the Board of Supervisors as a director and one member of the Board of Supervisors as an alternate to the MBCPA policy board.

In addition, staff also recommends that the Board of Supervisors consider appointing Mona Miyasato, County Executive Officer as the Director and George Shapchin of the Community Services Department as an alternate to the MBCPA Operations Board of Directors. And finally, staff asks that the board determine that the recommended actions do not constitute a CEQA project.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:28:05

All right, Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.752:28:07

I would like to nominate Supervisor Williams for this position. He has a long history, interest, a lot of technical knowledge, a lot of knowledge in Sacramento as well as locally.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:28:20

And I would second that nomination and would be willing to serve as an alternate if no other member of the board is interested in doing that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:28:31

Well, I would humbly accept I think we have an abundance of riches here. I was intending to nominate Supervisor Hartman, so this is a little awkward but-

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:28:47

No that's fine if Supervisor Hartman would want to do that, that's quite all right.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.752:28:53

Can we have two alternates? I guess we can't because we're- I

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:28:56

will not serve if called upon. I thought for sure, I was coming here thinking it was going to be you and I Peter but I

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.752:29:04

guess not. So- I would really love to do it and Jefferson Linton of my staff has a lot of experience and expertise to bring to this so thank you so much that's very gracious.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:29:16

All right so we have a motion with Supervisor Williams as the director, Supervisor Hartman is the alternate And then, also with the other recommendation of our CEO and Mr. Chapgian in their positions. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Okay let's do a roll call.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:29:42

Mr. Hart? Aye Ms. Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.752:29:44

Aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:29:44

Mr. Adam? Abstain. Ms. Williams? Aye Chair Lavanino? Aye Motion passes 4 to 1.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:29:51

Now, we're ready for item five.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:29:58

Chair Lavinino, members of the board, departmental item number five is from the county executive office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a presentation on the public safety power shut off PSPS protocol. Critical issues and actions taken by county government officials to prepare for preventative de-energization of electrical services.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:30:25

Looks like we're getting the presentation ready. Yeah, why don't we take a five minute break?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:33:31

All right, I apologize for that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed2:33:32

So we are back. Mr. Pontes please. Mr. Chairman, members of the board, Matt Pontus, Assistant CEO. Today we've got and I want to introduce to you Kelly Hubbard, our new Director of the Office of Emergency Management. She's going to be helping deliver our portion of the PowerPoint. Today we've got three PowerPoints here before you that will probably all brief but the first one we're starting out with PG&E. Mr. Eric Daniels will be presenting first. We're going to have Rondi Guthrie present on Southern California Edison.

And just so you know, we also have some other county staff here in the room. Should you have questions related to the various disciplines, we've got our County Fire Chief Mart Harward. We have Jan Kogler with Public Health and Jeanette Pell here with General Services. So with that I'm going to go ahead and get us started with the PowerPoint and turn it over to Mr. Eric Daniels.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed2:34:24

Thank you, Mr. Pontus. Eric Daniels Chair and members, Eric Daniels with PG&E. Pleasure to be with you today. Thank you for asking us to come and give you this presentation. As you all know, there's a new normal. Weather and fire are upon us, and the company is taking some unprecedented actions to try to help mitigate that potential in the future. We do not want to find ourselves in the position that we have found ourselves in.

For the concern of the people who have been affected by it, we humbly are apologetic. And we want to move forward in a way that can be as best possible not allow that kind of thing to happen again. In this program that we're going to talk about today, Community Wildfire Safety Program. I'll go through these real quick here and we're gonna talk about them more in depth as we move forward.

The first, there's three pillars for community wildfire safety. First is going to be our monitoring, weather station monitoring, prediction. Second is going to be our inspections and maintenance. And then the last pillar is going to be the things that are going to happen in the future which is going to be hardening the system making it more resilient into the future.

All of which get to helping us to avoid having to do a public safety power shutoff. Our intention is not to do public safety power shutoffs, we want to do all we can to avoid them from happening and we'll talk about how we're going to roll them out if and when we have to and the reasons why in just a moment. Sorry I'm not feeling very well so... First of all, PG&E already has a weather monitoring service where we already predict the weather for any storm activity that's coming especially during the winter time. You'll notice we have more outages during winter because storm activity does affect the grid.

So we already have a system of weather stations. We're going to be augmenting those weather stations with about 1,300 new weather stations and about 600 new high definition cameras. These are going to be along our corridors. They're not just anywhere out in the community they are along our corridors in the High Fire Threat District areas. I'll tell you a little more about what these high fire threat areas are. They're based on CAL FIRE and CPUC mappings that we are using.

PG&E did not come up with these maps. They are provided to us from the state, and we have to use those maps. So along our infrastructure corridors in those high fire threat areas will be installing more of this type of weather system. And the idea is that that weather system will be these weather monitoring stations will help us predict what kind of weather systems are coming and we can take actions as a result for that. We'll talk a little more about that in a few minutes as we get into the deck.

One of the first things we're going to do, however, is continue our vegetation management. We're going to do a little enhancement to this. The PUC has already enhanced it on us. It used to be required an 18 inch clearance around the conductors. That has changed in the last year or year and a half to four feet. So this is industry standard now in California, and we're doing a four foot clearance around the conductors. The 12 foot that you see here is our goal. And that's not in just everywhere along our service territory, into our service territory. That again is only in the high fire threat areas. The tier twos and the tier three area a good portion of that is going to be out in forested areas in the Sierras where we're working with property owners to try to achieve that 12 foot clearance.

In addition, we're working with property owners to try to remove dead and dying trees that are outside of our corridors so that those trees do not have the potential of falling into the lines from outside of their corridors. We've had good luck with property owners they understand the potential dangers here and of course most property owners don't mind if we will remove dead and dying trees from their property at our cost. So that is moving along nicely In addition, we've done a wholesale inspection of our Of our corridors within the High Fire Threat Area Districts Service Areas 2 and 3.

We've inspected all of the infrastructures, and we're now making repairs on them. What we've historically always done these kinds of inspections but we've enhanced them now. We've always had crew members that will climb the center of towers look from the inside out take photographs send them up to our analysis center up in the San Roman area. Determine what needs to be repaired and then crews are sent out. We've also used helicopters in the past in the more remote areas helicopter fly up next to a tower, a boom will be on the bottom take photographs of the tower send those up for analysis as well we've augmented the system this year And in the go forward with the drones will now have a professional team of drone operators that will go out to the field, they'll go to each tower fly up the outside of the tower take photographs again.

Send that up to San Ramon. All of this data will be analyzed together for that particular piece of equipment and then whatever determination is needed, we're looking for chinks in the coatings, we're looking for fasteners that look like they need to be addressed, any kinds of issues that come to the attention of the inspectors then we'll authorize the crews to go out and make the repairs We're currently in that process where all of this inspection has been done.

We were under court order to get that done, and now the crews are getting their paperwork. The engineering teams have done the analysis and have identified the repairs that are necessary if any. And now the crews are going to be marching out into the field. You should see those in the tier two and tier three areas making those repairs. The intention is to make the system as good, as new as possible.

So that we can again try to harden the system in a way. In addition, speaking of hardening of the system, the longer term things we need to do this system that we will be working towards doing will be making it more resilient not just repairing the existing but let's make it even better. By that we're going to, in the high fire threat areas where there are wooden poles, we're gonna replace them with metal poles.

We're going to widen cross arms where it makes sense to do so. We're going to replace wiring, or rather the conduit with a tree line or insulated wiring where it makes sense to do so as well. These kinds of hardening of the system will make it much more robust especially in the distribution grid where the potential for fire risk is even greater. In addition, I'll just add a little comment here about line reclosers.

The industry standard has always been to try to reduce the number of outages or reduce the time of outages as much as possible so that their duration is shorter. So throughout the system these kinds of pieces of equipment while not very attractive are very useful They help to make the system automate, automatically trying to find a new source of energy if a foreign object strikes a line.

Then the line will open and the energy will cease. This system will then try to find a new way to bring energy back, and as it does, it clicks this opener and shuts it. And as it does, it sometimes can create a spark. Now in the winter season, this is a very useful tool of reducing outage duration, but in high fire We're going to Could be longer in duration because now in order to restore your power we have to send crews out, inspect the line make sure that it is clear and then manually close that line to re-energize. So it will take longer because the automation will have been turned off during the fire season so just want you and the constituents to understand that Now when we get to a PSPS, public safety power shut off I think is what you really all want to understand how we're going to do this.

This is not something PG&E has just created. This is used widely throughout the industry. We benchmarked with our sister companies in California as well as with utilities throughout the rest of the country. They already implement various forms of PSPS operations. What's new is PG&Es never done it before and now we're going to. So there are a number of factors that have to be at play before we're going to implement a PSPS.

We're gonna need to see that there's a red flag warning issued by the National Weather Service, which means it's a very, very hot day. We're gonna need to see low humidity levels. Well in this part of the state and in the world, we usually do have low humidity levels with high temperatures. That sort of goes together, not like in Florida. We're also gonna need to see high concentration of fuel on the ground, which of course is very disconcerting because that is going to be very easily ignited. And then we're gonna have people on the ground working along with the weather center that I mentioned earlier to identify what the weather conditions are in an area.

And the potential for these kinds of activities. Add to that high winds, when we have all of these factors going on at once then the company can then determine that the conditions surrounding that equipment, the weather conditions surrounding that equipment could be considered so dangerous that we need to disengage and de-energize that particular piece of equipment In order to ensure public safety and that's what Public Safety Power Shutoff is all about. It's not something that's just going to be done on an immediate whim, we're gonna talk about this in a second about the kind of way we're gonna roll that out but before I do I want to just give you a little highlight of the tiers that were talking about the Tier 2 and Tier 3 Elevated and high fire threat areas.

This is the state of California, and you can see down here where we are in this area here Where we have a lot of the tier 2 and a little of the tier 3 that comes around on the southern mountains here dividing the county Let's hone it in here a little bit more. So we have Buelton and Solvang and Santa Ynez here, and then this is Santa Maria. Now the grid that comes into this area comes through San Luis Obispo County out of Moss Land, Morro Bay sorry.

It comes down to a substation that's just right about here by the, just north of the county line you know where the just north on the Napoma Mesa just north of where The racetrack is, and then it separates and it comes into Santa Maria. And then also there's, it makes a big triangle this way out to San, down to Buellton actually, and then over to Lompoc, and then back up.

And then there's the spurs that go to Santa Ynez and Solvang. We're not necessarily in Santa Barbara County. Our grid does not really go into Three, especially with our transmission lines. We will have some that goes in this way up to the top of the grade to service some of the towers that are on the top there. But for the most part we're in a tier two or in a tier one area.

The reason I mention this is there's been a lot of concern about if we were to impose PSPS what kind of outage coverage are we talking about? For the most part, the company has isolated a lot of the circuits between the tiers ones and tier twos. So we can start to hone in very specifically to just affect those circuits that are in the tiers that are of danger areas. So tier ones wouldn't be affected as much on a normal kind of an activity here.

The caveat to that and the reason that we have to throw this out is just to be sure that we're not shortchanging the discussion, is if in fact a transmission line that comes from an area north that services this area is impacted by PSPS. We could then have a very large scale outage which would impact everybody even into tier one but it would be highly remote that that would happen Because transmission lines again are a lot more robust, they're built higher. They have higher standards and margins built into them to withstand the kinds of weather conditions that we're talking about.

But that doesn't mean that kind of event couldn't happen. And that's why we have to say it's a potential but to be realistic The most realistic outages that you could, we could see of the PSPS are going to be in the tiers two and tier three areas. And we're going to be able to isolate them down to the areas that we believe are of most danger to the grid. We're not gonna just do this on a whim.

That weather center I told you about is predicting the weather into the future. So, we know the kind of weather that's coming and we can predict 48 hours in advance what we believe is going to happen henceforth 48 hours. If we believe that the conditions are going to be such in a certain area of that grid that we believe that the conditions will be dangerous so that we can't operate it safely, we're gonna start to communicate We're going to communicate with all the first responders, the OEM office. With the communities that are involved, their city councils, you.

Our media team is gonna stand up and start communicating with the media. There's a whole team that deals with public works departments in the different communities and in the county. They'll be stood up and start working with those particular communities that are being impacted by this particular PSPS. The communication machine will start to operate. We'll also have a team that starts to stand up, depending on the size of what this particular PSPS is going to look like, community resource centers so that the public has a place to go for information if and when one of these should occur in their area.

That's going to start at the 48-hour level. The communication is going to be out there. People will have warning and knowledge of this occurrence. At 24 hours We'll have a reassessment, that weather center will reassess. Is this still a potential? And then we'll do some more communication and then again just before we were to initiate a PSPS, we will communicate to all those entities once again.

During an outage, we will continue to communicate. Oh and I should mention also the team will be communicating directly with customers. We've asked all our customers to update their contact information so that we have cells, landlines, email addresses, any forms of communication they will offer us. We will use all of those to communicate with them about the different outreach that we're going to do on this particular PSPS.

And then during the outage as well. And then once we start to restore, we will also do that. Remember, just like any outage that occurs down the street somebody accidentally runs into a power pole and the power goes out or during winter storm, a tree comes down and takes or the wind knocks a power line down. We don't just restore and turn energy back on. We send crews out, and they investigate the line, make sure it's clear, and then we restore. So we investigate, restore, investigate, restore, investigate, restore. So that's going to be the cadence for restoration as well. So when you heard people talk about the potential for an outage to be many days It's unlikely that that's going to happen unless we have that most extreme example that I talked to you about.

And even then when we start to restore, remember the grid is not destroyed in this instance. The grid is still standing safe because all we've done is de-energized it. We'll be able to do the inspection, restore, inspection, restore. If it's a smaller one, like would be much more possible. It's going to be probably to the consumer no more of a discouragement than would happen in a normal kind of an outage that you do receive periodically nowadays.

Some hundreds, some couple thousand people and that would be it. I talked about Working to restore already. I'm trying to make it fast for you so we can get to the other guys. Lastly, I want to remind your constituents to go to PG&E dot com slash my wildfire alerts. You can find a lot of this information there much information about generators how you hook them up how they safe operate them We don't give recommendations on what to use, but we give you the safe operations of them. Also about how this entire process would work and also again asking you to update your contact information so we have the best information possible to communicate with you.

With that I think I'll save any questions for later and let you get on with the other presenters. Yes?

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:52:44

Are there any questions we want to ask of Eric at this point PG&E? I have one. I just want to know if you've modeled any, with those conditions that you gave us. High wind, high temperature. Did you go back and model a couple years at all and see how many days kind of fell into that at all? Do you know if any of that was done?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed2:53:08

Chairman, I don't have the specific answers on what we've done but we have done modeling and we have done investigations of past. How often do these kind of conditions occur? They are rare. But your county can answer how many times a National Weather Service warning has been Occurred in the county and I kind of help give you some information. We've had this dialogue with the OEM team already In addition, I should add that one of the other things that we're offering is for OEM and the key contacts in local jurisdictions within the Emergency responder community. We have developed a portal so that they can see real time as an event is occurring what the Polygon looks like of where the outage is going to be and as we start to hone in from 48 hours down To actual activation, we start to narrow down what we believe the actual outage So they'll be able to see that, help with staging of emergency equipment etc.

In coordination with our teams as well as we're trying to manage this so that has been rolled out. They have been granted access to that doesn't show them a lot right now because there's no event but I think they're being trained or public safety specialists have been working with them on that as well. So there is also that that's going on too.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:54:32

Well, I guess you could put most of my concerns and the concerns I hear from the community into two buckets. One would be what your company's capability is on re-energizing and on how rapidly that re-energizing could take place. And then the other bucket would be To make sure you have all vulnerable populations as medical baseline customers and I have a plan for those medical baseline customers. So, but before I get into those just that I want to appreciate the fact that you are looking at mitigation projects that could at least make us more aware of wildfire be able to pounce on wildfire faster.

But those numbers look like statewide aggregate numbers. I'm not sure what you mean by the numbers. Meaning the cameras and the, so your mitigation projects include wildfire detection cameras and weather stations? Yeah. And that looked

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed2:55:46

like a statewide number, right? Those are in addition to existing ones we already have. Right. And those are PG&E systems but we also utilize others that are out there but that would be not statewide, that's PG&Es service territory wide. Got it. And can you tell us what- I'm sorry, and Supervisor only in the high fire threat areas. So again that reduces the universe even more narrow.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:56:09

Right so you typically put them into your three. So can you tell us because right now we only have three fire cameras in the south and they're all on the South Coast in PG&E territory. We only have five weather stations to our knowledge all in the North County. Of those numbers that you showed us, how many are you planning for PG&E service territory in Santa Barbara County? Great

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed2:56:36

question. I do have that information. I don't have it readily available. We are adding some new ones in our service territory here in Santa Barbara County of both of those systems. I'll have to get back to you with the exact numbers but there are some additional ones that have already been

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:56:50

installed. And are you planning on funding cooling centers here in the North County? I would specifically want to put out Cuyama. Even though only a sliver of that is tier two, we have had a decent amount of wildfires and it's adjacent to Ventura County portions that are tier two where wildfire could Quickly travel, but the temperatures during the fire season in Koyama and New Koyama definitely can affect the health. And we have limited facilities where that's possible so it seems to be a place where some planning would be in order and even you funding the school district or another entity to be able to just reimburse costs of additional cooling and additional staffing or something like that.

This seems like something that we might want to plan for. Are there immediate plans that you have in the service territory on cooling centers?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed2:58:00

So, we do have the community resource centers that are referenced. They will not be cooling centers in the traditional sense of a cooling center. They most likely will have some air conditioning in them that's just brought in for the sake of that site. They will be more informational, not necessarily... there would not be considered shelters. Cooling centers are really the responsibility of the local communities, not PG&E but we would want to work with you if there were to be some sort of a PSPS event. Remember, a PSPS event is only going to be called in any instance where we're already having a heat wave that you probably might have already stood Those kinds of resources up on your own prior to our determination that the grid needs to be disengaged.

So it would continue to be something that would be the local government's responsibility. And

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:58:56

so, the only folks that you're going to take responsibility for is the medical baseline customers. Then tell us how does one qualify for being a medical baseline customer? What's the planning involved to make sure that those individuals are

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed2:59:12

safe during? So PG&E already has a list of the medical baseline community members that have self-identified themselves to us. Remember, we don't know who they are unless they self-identify through the process that I referenced in my slides with the asking for information there is also a way for folks to self identify at their medical baseline. We have also worked with the community, with all of the communities in our jurisdiction for...

Remember a lot of this is private information about those particular people so there's some legalities. We've worked with our legal team to try to identify ways to work with that So we can coordinate with emergency service personnel in each of the communities and in the counties that have signed up with NDAs, non-disclosure agreements. So the legal team has worked those kind of kinks out so we can share our baseline information with the baseline information that the county or the local jurisdiction has so we can better coordinate those things. So that is already underway.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:00:16

And while we're talking about it, if you guys have a link I sure would love to. Because my understanding is to be a baseline customer, you and your doctor need to fill out a form. And so I feel like part of our job here is to get that out Might be out there if you're listening and you might qualify, you should probably print one out. And if you know somebody who might qualify, can you print that out? So can you tell us what kind of conditions qualify? Does someone qualify?

On the basis of mobility or just basis of certain diagnoses, or just basis of a doctor's recommendation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:01:02

There are a number of items from which they can utilize. I don't want to short change by trying to give you that here. The best advice I would give is to ask customers to go to our website and put into the search engine baseline search terms, get to that page where you can read what the criteria are and then sign up if you meet the standards. And can you put that link?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:01:29

I'm sure it was in

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:01:30

your presentation. Well if you go to pgne.com homepage there's going to be a link across the top for wildfire safety. Click that and then you'll be into the system and then you can read through and find this kind of information that you might need to pull out of it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:01:46

And typically what we've found is that not everyone Complies to messages sent out in a broadcast fashion. How are you making sure that you're gathering all the people who might have the medical need of being a medical baseline customer? I mean, my guess is that you only have a fraction right now registered-

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:02:15

Well there are incentives for them to self identify because there are programs for I cannot give you a percentage as to what the universe is out there and how many are self-identified. But we have made this, I mean this isn't a long time program in seeking their involvement in these programs so... And then I think also the benefit of these kind of forums and I've done 35 of these forums throughout my territory and all of my colleagues throughout the service territory have as well That many or more. So the benefit of these kinds of forums is to do exactly what you've done is pointed out to those particular constituencies, to be aware.

We've also included information about not just the baseline but about the community. We're trying to get the word out as best we can to make sure that everyone has the opportunity to be aware, also in multiple languages. So we're doing what we believe we can to ensure that the communication is made prior to having to institute any sort of PSPS.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:03:32

And but just as a sort of I'm giving you for instance, right? If you're depending just on your billing and these kind of events, I would argue it might be inadequate because Just an email that we sent up asking what kind of questions should we ask today. Got a ton of responses from people who never even heard about this before, right? And so- But they've heard about

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:04:00

it now and it's not just the methods that you just referenced. I referenced also the media in fact there they are. So we're getting a lot of attention on this for the public's awareness.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:04:13

And so you're relying on media coverage and the bills, no other forms of

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:04:21

outreach. It's not just in bills we sent specific notifications as well. Do you have some suggestions on how we can

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:04:27

advance? Well I mean I just think that there's other ways to reach folks. I mean obviously ROEM has had a lot of contact with some Some folks in evacuations, so we might be able to provide you areas where you do specific outreach. I would recommend also organizations that specifically work with disabled folks like the Independent Living Resource Center. They have clients that are sort of no brainer to make sure that they're all medical baseline customers and There are other ways to reach people. I don't want to say all those ones, it would sound like a commercial.

But I think a real heavy outreach is in order just based on our experience that our notification system is not enough to reach every one of these medical baseline folks or people that would qualify as a medical baseline customer and Can you just explain, what do you do for a medical baseline customer to make sure that say they're dependent on a machine that requires power to breathe or I'm going to take a look at the replay and I'll

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:05:54

be taking notes and sending them up. Our chain of command, I do this for all these meetings so that we do capture those comments and do take some action with respect to that. So if you do have other organizations that you would recommend, we don't have to mention them here but do share them with me. As far as our outreach to community baseline there will be multiple attempts made to communicate with them.

They already had self-identified Then we already have their contact information, we will make every effort to phone them repeated times. And also send staff out to go wrap on their door and see that they have received the information that a PSPS event is coming. It also does take some, I don't think it should be ignored that there's some personal responsibility here. So family members also need to look in on these individuals as well but we will be making those kinds of personal attempts to speak to those people who have self-identified and it will not just be once, it'll be multiple attempts to try to get to that particular customer if they've self identified as a medical baseline. And that will also be coordinated with the local emergency responder community throughout a PSPS event.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:07:27

And if a medical baseline customer does not have a family member that can move them in one of these cases, and especially if you're talking about shutting down, in the worst case scenario, a transmission line, you'd have to have somebody outside the region pick that person up.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed3:07:46

Do you-

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:07:47

I'm not sure about that. Why would you have to be outside the region? Even if there's, the transmission line is affected and you have wide scale outage people are still able to get to that person. Remember there's no damage, the lines aren't

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:08:00

down. Right. I suppose the question is where would that disabled person go if the whole region was out of power but let's go with a more likely scenario. Yeah

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:08:09

it's not

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:08:10

the likely scenario. Let's go with the more likely scenario of an isolated If you have an individual that doesn't have a family member or resource to evacuate them, are you planning on paying for a power backup for some of your medical baseline customers? Or an individual pickup and evacuation for that individual. I think we'll take

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:08:37

some of those cases as they come, but we're not going to suggest that there's going to be this kind of support for people. They need to have some personal responsibility with respect to that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:08:50

And then I guess just on the repowering, everything I said would be less of a concern if we knew that you and SCE had sufficient staffing for inspections in our most common scenarios. And the most common scenario as you probably are already been briefed is that For several successive evenings in a row, but the winds will go down late at night and they'll be pretty calm till the next afternoon.

In that kind of a case, are you going to have sufficient staffing to inspect and then repower so that power could at least be half the day or a quarter of the day. Or something so that people who are depending on this for their life or their livelihood can repower their battery sources?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:09:53

That's an excellent question that you would think it through like that because that's exactly what is the potential to happen. We're going to have extreme, if we were in one of these scenarios, you'd have this extremely hot weather, intense winds. We would have to predict that those are going to occur before we would institute the PSPS so and then we would be honing it into specific circuitries.

If in fact the weather pattern changes and it does improve, then we're going to start to institute restoration. At that 48-hour level one of the things I didn't mention is as soon as we've predicted, that's one of the blessings of having this prediction capability and we do it today with respect to winter storm season. When we predict a large system is coming in, it's going to be of concern. We redeploy staff from other parts of the service territory to that area and we tee them up. So that would occur in this instance as well. So we would have additional staff than what is regularly employed by PG&E in this particular area to address those kinds of impacts that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:11:00

you're referring to. And is there a kind of metric that a typical inspector can go? I don't know if there is. How long it takes them to inspect, say half a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:11:11

mile of line? I don't think that there would be a metric because every line is going to be kind of different so. Got it. Thank you. You're welcome. Good questions. Thank you very much.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:11:24

Supervisor Hartman and Supervisor Adam.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.753:11:27

Thank you. I just have a couple of points I'd like to make, and the first is to thank you Mr. Daniels. You briefed me and my staff many months ago when this was first coming down the pike. And then you went to the Adult and Aging Network and gave a presentation there that- My colleague did. Okay. Was extremely well received, and that's a really important network to get information out too.

Really vulnerable people in our county. There's really just two points I want to make, the first is that this is new for all of us and conditions are likely to get worse. So I think the worst thing that can happen in an emergency is people get siloed. And so I think today is an effort to figure out how we build a strong partnership going forward. And so I think it's really important that we have a clear understanding of what our responsibilities are. And I would like our county council, Mr. Gazzone to weigh in on that but I'd like to just mention one other thing and then I won't talk anymore because a lot of people want to say things.

In terms of the general outreach, we have a Firesafe Council, a non-profit here. I'm on the board and we're working hard with the bucket brigade and with our fire department and across the board with fire people Trying to gather information about homeowner associations throughout our county, mutual water districts, special districts of other kinds. So that we can have a communication network and the Bucket Brigade has kind of been a leader South County in Montecito area, and we're trying to take that county wide. So that is something we're seeking more resources to get that in place but that will be an important communication tool once we have it. And then Mr. Gazzone-

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:13:28

Can I comment on that please? We can't through every fire safe council because there's so many of them. But we have been trying to work with as many as possible and I haven't reached out to that particular one myself, although some of our other team members may have. I'm not aware of it. I would like to follow up with you on that but there is a potential that we can work with some granting support maybe not this year but into next year for that.

CommentAndy CaldwellProposed · by introduction3:13:57

Mr. Ghazan? Chair and Supervisors, we've discussed before the series of rulemaking decisions and resolutions out of the Public Utilities Commission in this area fairly recently in May of this year. We have a decision 19-05042 from the Public Utilities Commission which establishes some new guidelines concerning PSPS And also makes clear that earlier guidelines in a resolution from 2018 are still in effect. That's Resolution ESRB-8, and in one of the plain English portions of that resolution, the order is that all investor owned utilities shall take appropriate and feasible steps to provide notice and mitigation. To their customers in accordance with reference to another decision, actually from 2012.

And in that decision from 2012 which gets essentially bootstrapped into both of these later actions. There's a pretty good narrative discussion that the starting point is a strong presumption that power should remain on for public safety. And that a utility will be allowed an exemption from liability if it acts in a reasonable way, subject to reasonableness review by the PUC.

One of the factors that the PUC may consider Is the extent of the utilities actions to mitigate adverse effects on the community? And one example of an appropriate mitigation in that 2012 decision highlighted potential of alternate sources of power for critical public services such as schools and water utilities. So I think the Public Utilities Commission, at least going back to 2012 and carrying forward has had some discussions of what amount of mitigation would actually be enough to support reasonableness review that would exempt utility from liability from some of the consequences of shutting off power. So I think that today in the presentations will be some discussion of that and we have had this discussion with the Emergency Operations Center during a recent tabletop exercise as well as the CEO's office for quite sometime now.

Thank you very much, Supervisor Adam.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed3:16:10

Well I know that I've been called as the contact person for my farming operation a number of different times by your staff and I'm just wondering how is it that you called me or what was the criteria for calling customers? Did you call each and every customer or did you call Commercial customers or

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:16:38

I'm not sure supervisor who was calling you. It could well be because you are a large industrial user. We do have a team that does communicate with large industrial users and so there is a team that does communicate with them. I don't know the criteria for which that might occur.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed3:16:55

Okay, well I assume it's because we're agricultural and highly dependent on electricity to provide water.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:17:02

There is a team that deals with the agricultural community too. I don't know that their charge is to call every last member. I don't know what their outreach actually is but they do own the relationship with the ag community so.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed3:17:19

Yeah, well it was, I wouldn't say it was reassuring. But because when you have a highly dependent crop of water, high water user like romaine or something, if the water runs out, it's dead. So, obviously in our world there's a lot of concern about getting this power shut down ever. But especially for extended periods it's not going to be a good thing. So what else have you done in terms of social media outreach?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:18:07

Well that would also be part, when I mentioned the media team it's all of those sources of media type outreach. They engage in all of those whether it's Twitter or Facebook or myriad of other types. That team does engage already PG&E does. It's not something new that we would be doing it just something that's augmented to the existing system.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:18:29

Okay thank you. Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:18:30

you

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:18:32

All right, thank you very much Mr. Daniels. Let's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed3:18:35

go back to Mr. Pontus. So Chairman Lavagnino and members of the board next we're going to have Rondy Guthrie up here who is going to talk a little bit about a similar program that Southern California Edison has in place. Good afternoon.

CommentRondi GuthrieProposedself-stated3:18:50

Good afternoon, Chair Lavinino and members of the board. My name is Rondi Guthrie. I'm a Government Relations Manager with Southern California Edison. I also have my colleague Bob Steens who works closely with our business resiliency group here to speak with you about our public safety power shut off. I first wanted to thank you and your county office of emergency management, your department heads, first responders for being so incredibly engaged and proactive and Making sure our communities are not only prepared for a power outage, but any disaster that may come our way.

There's obviously a lot of similarities between the presentations and some of the wildfire mitigation strategies we're using so I'll probably be able to get through my part of the presentation rather quickly but feel free to stop me if you have any questions. And I can get started while they're getting the slides up. The first slide I'd like to show is really just related to overall community resiliency and preparedness.

While wildfire is top of mind to all of us right now, it is crucial that we all take on the responsibility to make sure we're prepared for any emergency that comes our way. It should be noted that most emergency planners state that we should be ready to be on our own for the first 72 hours of any emergency. And towards the end of this presentation, we have some resources available to help people prepare a plan.

Those of us who grew up here in Southern California are used to what used to be called a fire season. We experienced wildfires happening late summer through fall. There would occasionally be a very destructive fire, but for the most part they were few and far between. Changes to California climate means that the traditional fire season no longer exists. As a result of years of drought, bark beetles and other issues hazardous fuels are building up and we essentially have a year round fire season.

It is estimated there are 10 million acres of land containing ready to burn kindling from nearly 147 million dead and dying trees. And ten of the most destructive fires in California's history have happened since 2015, and eight of those ten have occurred in just the past two years. Earlier this year, SCE filed a wildfire mitigation plan with the California Public Utilities Commission. This plan is intended to address and greatly reduce fire ignitions caused by utility infrastructure. It is also intended to further fortify the electric system against increasing threat of extreme conditions driven by climate change.

About 25% of SCE service area is located in high-fire risk areas. This plan takes a broad approach that includes enhanced inspections of all of the company's overhead power lines and equipment in high fire risk areas. And it will further harden infrastructure, bolster situational awareness capabilities, enhance operational practices and harness the power of data and technology.

A little more background, one of the first things that Governor Newsom did when he took office was to create a wildfire strike force. In mid-April the strike force issued report that set out steps the state must take to reduce the incidence and severity of wildfires. The report focuses on four major areas, preventing and responding to catastrophic wildfires by expanding fire prevention activity. Making communities more resilient, investing in fire suppression and response. And calling on the federal government to better manage federal forest lands. It also calls for renewing California's commitment to clean energy, allocating responsibilities for wildfire cost and strengthening utility market regulation.

You just saw this in the previous presentation, but this is an early 2018. The California Public Utilities Commission issued these maps that are designed specifically for the purpose of identifying areas where there is an increased risk for utility associated wildfires. As mentioned, tier two represents an elevated risk and tier three represents an extreme risk. And you can see that most all of Southern California Edison service territory within Santa Barbara County falls within one of those tiers.

Eliminating any side of the fire triangle helps prevent ignitions. The goal of Edison's wildfire mitigation strategy is to minimize the chances our equipment becomes an ignition source. This includes removing the fuel side with our vegetation management program and the heat side through our PSPS protocol, which we'll discuss in more detail. Passed in 2018, Senate Bill 901 required all utilities to prepare and submit a wildfire mitigation plan. Our wildfire mitigation plan activities comprise incremental and new work developed specifically to reduce wildfire risk.

The wildfire mitigation plan is broken into two major categories aligned to our long term strategy. The operational practices you see in the gray at the top and infrastructure improvements in the green at the bottom. A major aspect of our plan is the installation of insulated wire or covered conductor. We believe it is foundational to reducing the leading cause of ignitions and you can pass this around, we'll show and tell.

We are proactively replacing existing bare conductor with covered conductor in high fire risk areas to reduce ignition risks. To date, our crews have installed 183 circuit miles of covered conductor in our highest risk areas with a goal of 5,500 circuit miles by 2025. We are also supplementing covered conductor with other protective devices that will further reinforce our grid, such as faster acting fuses and reclosers. To date our crews have installed more than 7500 faster acting fuses onto our system and updated more than 1500 protective devices with more sensitive settings that speed the activation of the fuse device to reduce potential ignition energy.

As previously mentioned, we also have completed our enhanced overhead inspections in this area. I know your constituents and especially your permitting staff has felt our presence here very much so. We've completed all the inspections in this area and are on to remediation work that was identified from those inspections. SCE is also considering undergrounding where appropriate as an additional risk mitigation measure. I know this is something you also probably hear a great deal from your constituents, so I wanted to include it in here. There are some obvious benefits to undergrounding both aesthetically and reducing the chance of our equipment being ignition sourced. There's also a lot of complications and challenges and costs involved with undergrounding, so The thing I'd like to point out on this slide is it's estimated to cost about $430,000 per mile to install the covered conductor and $3 million a mile to underground.

Situational awareness is an integral part of emergency management. We are strategically deploying weather stations to collect high resolution weather data, this enables more accurate forecasting at the circuit level and increased understanding of current conditions. We currently have approximately 200 weather stations installed with a target of 850 by the end of 2020.

We also have a 24-7 situational awareness center which is co-located with our EOC and watch office. In addition, we have meteorologists and fire scientists on staff with expertise in the electrical system. We have added high resolution weather capability which enable us to track weather conditions on a very local, very granular level and alerts our team when conditions reach preidentified thresholds.

We have also added fire monitoring cameras. These are high definition pan tilt zoom cameras installed on our towers to monitor wildfire activity. This is a picture of the first camera we installed up at Santiago Peak in Orange County, and you may recall the Holy Fire in this area. Our cameras were instrumental to the Orange County Fire Authority being able to deploy necessary resources to fight this fire.

And this is the website that is available to the public to see where these cameras are located. Local fire officials, when this program's fully implemented will have the ability to control the cameras and again we'll help them deploy necessary resources. And this is a website I think you saw before with all of the weather stations both SCE and others throughout our service territory.

As you know, tree shrubs and other vegetation can cause safety hazards and power outages if they grow near or into power lines. We have increased the frequency of vegetation patrols in the most severe high-fire risk areas to identify potential hazards. SCE inspects approximately 900,000 trees annually and trims nearly 700,000 of them per year. SCE has also implemented a 12 feet tree clearance from distribution lines in high fire areas to ensure annual growth will not encroach on compliance distances.

I will call up Bob now to go over our PSPS protocol and we'll be available for questions, thank you.

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CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated3:28:45

Thanks, Rodney. My name's Bob Steens. I'm one of Rodney's colleagues in our public affairs group. I manage our business resiliency emergency operations but for about the last year and a half I've been pretty much full-time wildfire so happy to come up here and talk about what we're doing. Our program is very similar to PG&E and San Diego Gas & Electric. It's a program we've had in place at Edison for about eight years But up until last year, we'd only done it twice in both of the communities of Idlewild.

But with as both speakers have, PG&E and Rondi talked about the increased wildfire threat. It's a program we expect to be doing more often. And as a result of that over the last year and a half have built up a very robust plan on both the operational side and the communication side. So I'll talk about that in a second on how we do our notification. Again, the goal of this system hardening and everything else that Rodney talked about and this public safety power shutoff is to prevent power lines from becoming an ignition source. Statewide about 10% of fires start from utility lines but we want to drive that down as close to zero as we can.

It's primarily our PSPS program, primarily impacts those circuits that are in the high fire risk areas, the distribution circuits. But as PG&E mentioned under extreme circumstances it could involve our transmission and our sub-transmission lines as well which would impact customers that are not necessarily in high fire hazard areas. The question we get all the time and Supervisor Williams asked is how many times are we going to be doing this in the future?

It depends on the weather. You know, we can't predict how many days it's going to be windy all the exact conditions but as I mentioned it you know we've done it up until we put the new program in place we'd done it twice and we did it then last year we activated our team three times Did de-energizations twice. So it's something we expect to see more often until combination, until conditions on the ground improve and until we are complete our system hardening. The goal of our system hardening in addition to reducing the chance of wildfire is to one of the benefits of it is it does reduce the chances and the number of occurrences we would have to do our public safety power shut off.

So our decision points again, very similar to what you heard from PG&E. I would say there's three buckets of information. There's all the science stuff that all of our weather stations and advanced weather modeling. One of the things we did last year is we brought in one of the renowned fuel and fire experts in the state. We brought him on to help us at Southern California Edison. So all that sort of the science and technology bucket.

And then real time observations. So our goal is before we make the decision to de-energize, we have a qualified personnel in the area looking at that line telling us what's going on. I'm a member of one of our emergency teams that are activated when we do this and they're either on by sat phone or cell phone or radio. Calling into our emergency operations center reporting what they're seeing. So that's a very, very important piece of information and the other one is which is also very important is We're going to be during this process is 72 hours, 48 hours, 24 hours. We're gonna be working with the first responders with emergency managers because we want to know what else is going on in the community? What else has gone on there? Is there already a fire going on that we need to know about?

Is there an evacuation that's going on that we need to know about? So all those pieces of information are considered by our incident management team and our incident commanders before we make the decision to de-energize. So our timeline, again this is our ideal timeline. It's based on the wind behaving like we predict it will. About four to seven days out are meteorologists and we have a team of five or six meteorologists. They're monitoring the weather conditions and they can see in the Santa Barbara area we're starting to see some indications that we might have to consider doing the public safety power shut off. We're not doing any communications yet because we're still waiting to get more accurate information, more accurate modeling.

But we are in sort of our getting ready to get ready stage at three days out and this is three days before the wind conditions will materialize. This is when we begin notifying local governments and first responders and emergency plan operations That this is that we're considering this, we're not notifying the public yet because we want to get a little more detailed information. But we want to give our first responders and emergency partners and public safety partners which include hospitals and water districts a little head start and let them know where we're looking at that.

Two days out is when we begin our notification system. We start again with our first responders and our public safety partners. We then call our critical care, what we call critical care customers which are those customers that are on some type of a life-saving device and this is the program we have in place if a car hit a pole today and power was going to be out We call them once with our auto dialer. If it doesn't detect that it was picked up, we then pick up the phone and call them. And if that doesn't work, we send someone to knock on their door. So that's a program that's in place today.

For normal outage, the difference here is we're going to start that notification process 48 hours out. Then we call the rest of the customers, the small businesses and the residents. We then begin that same process about 24 hours out as an update. And if it's, we'll continue to update between that sort of 24 hours out and when we may shut off the power. We'll continue that update to say it's not shut off yet but it's still on the list. But then we again notify when we shut off the power I always get asked why are you calling to say the power is off? I can tell that well we want you to know we know the power is off so Call in our call center, so we want you to know we're aware of it. And it's because this public safety power shut off and the last notification we do that will do notifications depending on the length of it sort of in that between when the power went off and when it's restored.

Then we could do that same process when we restore like PG&E just because the wind stops blowing doesn't mean we can automatically turn on the power. We have to go out inspect the line and Supervisor Williams, We've done a lot of training and are confident we have sufficient resources in place. And then your question on the timing, it sort of depends on the line. You know some lines you can get to that the troubleman or patrolman can get in their truck and drive it pretty quick. Some lines like in some of our remote areas actually have to be hiked flown with a helicopter. So it depends they can be anywhere from an hour or two to several hours depending on the location of the line. But once we get the power restored, we can again go through that same process.

Notify our first responders or emergency partners or public safety partners and then notify our customers that we turn the power back on because this time if we want you to know we've turned the power back on but if the powers not back on at your house then you need to call us because it may be a problem with the local system that's serving your house. Mike Rodney said we really want to stress the people need to be prepared for emergencies. Power outages can happen for many reasons, maintenance and we're doing work on it, emergency repairs, natural disasters, requests from fire agencies. Many times if there's a fire in the area, the fire department will request us to de-energize the line for the safety of the workers or of the firefighting crews.

And then let me go to the last slide here and then we get to questions. This is a slide of useful information like my colleague from PG&E said, you know one of the most important things we do when we do any of this outreach when we do all of our community meetings is encourage people to go into this for us it's sc.com slash outage alerts and update your outage information because if you set up your account 15 years ago with Edison he had You've now gotten rid of that landline and you know, you've told all your friends and relatives to call you on this number but you haven't told Edison or other providers. Same with the county's emergency notification system. It's very important that you keep that information up-to-date.

So with that, Rondi and I are available to ask questions. And Supervisor Williams on one of your issue on what we call critical care customers. It's something we're doing extensive outreach. We're going to be starting in the next few weeks to reach out to the counties. That we serve to see how can we partner on this. And we're also working through efforts through the California Office of Emergency Services, California Public Utilities Commission is how can we partner with the independent living centers and other groups that work with the AFN community?

So we're going to be like I said soon reaching out to the county to figure out Uh, to identify these customers and you know can we even share information because I'm sure the county has some information that we don't have. And vice versa so we're you know there's some obviously some legal and regulatory and privacy challenges about that around that but we're working to address that. And in as the County Council mentioned uh there was a decision issued in May They just, I think last week opened up the second phase of this rule making on public safety power shut off. And one of the items they're going to be talking about is how do we put a system in place where utilities can share that critical care information with local governments? Right now we can share it during an emergency but we're working through just some legal and regulatory issues on how do we share it in advance of an emergency.

So the county can identify those folks and incorporate them into their planning. But we've still got a few issues to work on that, but again it is one of the issues that's going to be included in the second phase of this rulemaking.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:39:22

Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:39:24

So, I would say one of the first things from the onset that is a critical need is translating your application for medical baseline customers into Spanish and having that available. I just say that's crucial. We- I'll make sure that it, I think it is but we'll verify. Yeah, we found the English one but we haven't found this Spanish one just FYI. Re-energizing, I think that's one of the biggest issues because all of the catastrophes that we could think of with having power off for multiple days would be obviated if we were running through the typical scenarios of sundowners and can be assured That by mid-morning or by late morning the next day that in one of these typical public shutoffs, we could reenergize so that particularly individuals that depend on it for their life.

But even people who depended on it for their livelihood would have some ability to recharge their power sources between Re-energization of those lines, sorry. And the subsequent cutoff that might happen again that next evening. Even having five hours of power can make a big difference. What steps are you doing to or can you assure us that in a typical severe sundown or wind scenario, say it's forecast three nights in a row.

That you would have the capability to inspect and re-energize Between those sundowner events.

CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated3:41:22

So right now I can't assure you that it is going to happen, but it's something we are currently in the process of reviewing and going back and looking at it and saying, you know, can we do it for as you said if you know for half a day? We're currently going through and reviewing our protocols to see if that's something we can implement when we get back here when we finish that analysis.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:41:42

And then of course you know when you have preparation things are a little bit less severe but You know, have you or PG&E had to de-energize without notification? And if so... Have you changed procedures that makes that unlikely in the future? Because this could be a lot more of a problem if we have

CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated3:42:09

to. So for the public safety power shut off, we've done it again under this new protocol what we put in place last year. We've done it twice. Both times we were able to give notice. And one thing, and it just reminded me of what we try and do is on our circuits is the reclosures that Rondi talked about, the equipment we're put on helps us isolate the size of the outage. So we've de-energized probably about a handful of circuits maybe eight to ten circuits over In last year's outages, but it only impacted 148 customers because we're able to our goal is to minimize the size of that outage.

But we've been able to give the warning. We haven't always made the 48 hours. Initial notice, but we're again going back and looking at all our models. And after each one of these we do lessons learned in fact and then if you know what if we do one of these up in Santa Barbara County? We'd be doing a lessons learned with the with the Office of Emergency Management to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:43:16

And on mitigation, do you have any idea of whether I guess three different mitigations. One would be whether you'd be adding more fire cameras, fire detection cameras or weather stations in the Santa Barbara portion of your service territory and then One mitigation you've already done, which is replacement of the high voltage poles above Carpinteria so that for local residents that's at least some measure or some solace.

Are you planning on extending that infrastructure upgrade into the hills farther west at any point soon?

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CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated3:44:08

So I'd have to check specifically on the poles. The covered conductor is a target for all of the tier three fire area. In some cases, we are putting in what we call composite poles. And those are largely in the higher fire risk areas that are harder to get to because the composite poles don't necessarily mitigate against a fire but what they do allow us to do is if a fire burns through there is to restore service much more quickly. Your question on the cameras, yes we are looking at additional cameras here. It's a partnership we have with UC San Diego and I think our folks in UC San Diego have been in contact with Santa Barbara Fire on helping us identify potential locations for those.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:44:53

And does your model include the most recent Thomas fire in it? Because obviously there's some parts of our hills that don't have anything left to burn. Does that factor into your model and whether you'd have to do a shut off?

CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated3:45:09

It does, so in addition to the wind as my colleague from PG&E mentioned. A lot of it depends on the fuel conditions. So if there's no fuel there to burn chances are dramatic or less that we would have to do a PSPS again if there is no fuel on the ground to burn.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:45:29

And just forgive me because I have a lot of constituent questions that came up. The cell towers will typically function for 24 to 48 hours without electricity on their own backups as I understand it. Is that, are you reaching out to cell carriers? Is there any kind of planning about whether that, just our ability to respond to people's concerns Would go down dramatically if everybody was out of cell coverage after a couple days.

CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated3:46:08

So that's good question, yes we've done a number of workshops with outreach to the communications companies not just cell communications but the charters and those type of Time Warner or whoever the companies are now I sort of lost track Cox in this area sorry. So we've done a lot of outreach to them. We've done a number of workshops with the communication companies and you know, we're pretty detailed in giving them information so they know we've given them precise information to say this cell tower is on this circuit so when they get the notification that the cell tower is out then they can enact their emergency plans.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:46:52

Community wildfire protection plan areas also factor into your analysis. These are areas like, for instance, Montecito does vegetation clearance regularly through their CWPP. Does that factor

CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated3:47:06

in? So yeah again I think it gets back to the you know our vegetation program and then you know what are the ground conditions? What are the fuel conditions that are on the ground?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:47:16

And I can guess the response on this one just based on my own experience, but you probably know more about the weather patterns that would trigger this. Someone that has a breathing device which they use for nighttime sleep and they ask would the typical power outage occur during the day or night? And I would say probably evening, right? Early night is when you get those big sundowners and so it'd be It would be probably a concern to this constituent that we should flag, right?

CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated3:47:51

Yeah. And again it's something we're looking into as your question about backup generation is something we're looking into.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:47:57

So I mean can you tell us anything different or more detailed on how you're going to handle outreach to make sure you get everybody signed up that should be medical baseline customers And what procedures you go through to make sure that they won't face a life-threatening situation because of the power shut off. And my suggestion to both you guys is bus ads, I really think that the ability to, you got to reach everybody right? And I think that's one more additional.

In Spanish as well as in English.

CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated3:48:45

So our outreach to those customers begins with the medical professionals that prescribe these pieces or put them on these pieces of equipment, also with the providers of those equipment so they help us promote that program but as I mentioned we're looking at Partnering with Cal OES, Public Utilities Commission on how we do this at a statewide level. And then we're going to be working with all of the counties that we serve to see how on a local level we can help promote people to sign up for if they're qualified sign up for what we call critical care or medical baseline as well as promoting making sure you've updated your customer contact information.

Because we see that as, you know, it's got to be a partnership. As Rodney mentioned and a colleague from PG&E mentioned, it relies on people self-registering.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:49:38

And I appreciate one of your colleagues going to Carpinteria and meeting with several governments down in Carpinteria that we also attended. They seem to describe the procedure with a medical baseline customers as kind of like a funnel where you start notifying all of them and need to create a plan for each one of them. And that you go down it, do you have a family member or then some service to evacuate? Or some other way of doing it. And then you end up with a small universe of people who don't have resources and are in a particularly threatening situation because of prolonged power outages. In those cases, Going to be offering those folks transport or backup generations.

CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated3:50:39

So we're looking into generation, it's a program we're just starting to look at. As far as transport is something we typically do not do. What we've done in the past is if we find a resident that does need transportation with information we would share with the county or the city which they reside.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:50:59

And maybe just a little bit more detail on so that you're not doing cool, or what I heard from PG&E is you're not doing cooling centers but you're doing community something centers. And what are those for?

CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated3:51:11

So it's a program we don't have in place right now. It's a program we're going to be putting in place later this year and next year. I can't remember if we call it a resiliency center or a resource center. But it's in areas where there is going to be an outage We're working with local governments, with schools and other non-profits to identify facilities. And it's where people can come charge their phone. We've actually procured I think six or so mobile charging vans that we would roll out if there was a large scale public safety power shut off. And it's something we would coordinate with the county on. You know, county would know where the outages are happening. Some would coordinate with the county on where do you think these should be deployed?

And those are just sort of the temporary come plug in your phone get some information and get some water But then we're working on a longer term program with these community resiliency centers that would be targeted in areas potentially to be impacted by PSPS but we got to make sure that They're potentially not going to be impacted or if they are going to be impacted, they've got backup generation. So it's a complicated process but it's something we've got a team working on.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:52:23

Well, this is going to be challenging and we'll try to do our best to help notify folks and spread the word on the medical baseline. And I guess we'll be passing out a lot of applications.

CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated3:52:39

Well as Rodney said, you know, we appreciate the work that we've done with county so far. I think, I gotta go back on my note but Santa Barbara County a year and a half ago was the first county we met with on this public safety power shut off. I don't know, a year and a half ago or so as time flies by on this. But again we appreciate the partnership we've had with the county in the past and look forward to building on that partnership.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:53:07

Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:53:12

All right. There cannot be any other questions. There are,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed3:53:17

okay. Supervisor Hart? How long is it estimated for the infrastructure hardening work in Santa Barbara County to

CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated3:53:24

take? I have to check in Santa Barbara County. Our goal is 2025-ish on the first phase of this. Long time. Yeah, it is.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:53:35

Supervisor Adam and then Supervisor Hartman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed3:53:38

Well, I want to call up Chief Hartwig and ask him about how he's doing getting some control burns going. But while he's coming up, I just want to say a lot of this is our fault. We keep talking about climate change as the total cause of this thing but I think we should look in the mirror. We don't like control burns. Come on up. We don't like cattle grazing very much, and we don't like fire breaks. And we even don't like grading roads in rural areas in a lot of places. And so I think we have to take responsibility for having contributed to a lot of this buildup of fuels.

So what are we doing? How many fires are we going to have this year and how many acres is in the queue?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed3:54:32

Thousands, we're going to do two. Two are scheduled. They're both in the North County and they'll be thousands of acres. We believe that the appetite statewide is much better now for putting fire on the ground as a way to reduce fuels. One of the easiest and best ways to do that, one of the best partners we have statewide working through CAL FIRE is the ranges or rangers. Range improvement districts or areas and using some farmlands and ranches as part-

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed3:55:08

That's a bunch of cattle ranchers?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed3:55:10

Yes. But in the past when we look at reducing fuels, there hasn't been much of an appetite. And I would say statewide really directed by the state fire marshal and Cal Fire that has become more and more of a solution. And so we're working with Cal Fire and as you know, we're working with some ranches and ranchers right now in trying to use those even looking at some areas in the South County to do that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed3:55:41

Well, yeah and that's the other question is are we out there recruiting some of this tier three area to get fire underneath it so that it's got a long buffer away from the lines and stuff. And we take down that fuel load that's accumulated over those years. The Thomas Fire, there was a whole bunch of Thomas Fire that hadn't burned for 100 years.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed3:56:03

The tier three areas aren't areas that we currently have, but most of those are in the forest. And most of the areas are tier two areas that we've located both on the North County and the South County.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed3:56:15

Well I think we should put some thought into reaching out to the people who own some of that tier three and I think a lot of it frankly is probably the forest and maybe even state lands. And we should be out there actively recruiting, putting fire on the ground underneath or adjacent to those lines. And that way we can save all this stuff and there won't be the need to shut off this power. I'm telling you, this is a perfectly reasonable self-defense by these companies who were getting sued all up and down the state for And maybe there's some malfeasance of management there, I don't know.

But I think that some of these things are our fault as well as a society. Maybe not our fault as a board but you know as a society we kind of decided that we were going to just do this experiment where we prevented through a lot of environmental rules and Just want to protect everything all the time. And then we've got CEQA that makes it really difficult to do a lot of things, and so we've created this buildup of fuels and so we have to go out there and take some actions to prevent this because just speaking as a business I can't just move.

So maybe if I could, I'd consider it. But I think there's going to be a lot of people that are operating businesses in the state of California. If this thing goes a few times a year for a couple years then this is going to be something that may push somebody to move their business out of state. It's certainly going to cost more money. We sit here and berate these guys because they're the evil corporation, and make them pay for everybody's inconveniences and all of the things that we can anticipate that they're going to cause different people problems, and they are. I mean it's a fact but why is that?

And it's because we're suing them, but we're suing them and so is everybody else. All the other jurisdictions are suing them and we've created this build up of fuels that creates these horrific fires and you can't put them out. So, I think we need to make sure that we're really trying to get these tier three areas as a primary target for fire on the ground in the future. And I hope that you can do some of that. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:59:22

Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.753:59:24

Thank you. I just wanted to mention for Southern California Edison, just commend you on your outreach. I had an opportunity to give some welcoming remarks at your symposium last week reaching out to nonprofits that are focusing more on resilience and I thought that was very successful. And I know you've been very generous in sharing your circuit information with our county. It's really critical, as I understand it, to have geographic information like that so that we can target areas and be planning community by community.

Our county fire department I think has activated twice already, or at least I think I've had two notices in my district. Pre-positioning once we have certain weather conditions coming, we get our fire resources in certain areas so that we're ready to pounce. That helped to make the holiday fires so it didn't turn out like the painted cave fire. When you re-energize, is there any way to preposition your resources to be out there? Maybe you're already doing this. But once we know that there will be a lull in the weather or it's possible, I mean are people there and ready to go right away?

CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated4:00:42

Yeah, so we go out before as I mentioned before we re-energize the line. We patrol it. So one of our troublemen or our patrolmen drive the line you know from in the part of the section of the line that we were concerned about in the wind area. Or actually no sorry they patrol the entire line to make sure that there's no tree branches metallic balloons squirrels or whatever else that have gotten into the line or or there's no damage to the equipment. So before we re-energize a line we patrol it to make sure there are no issues

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.754:01:11

Right, and you've got people out there the minute they can.

CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated4:01:15

The conditions have

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.754:01:16

changed they're there

CommentBob SteensProposedself-stated4:01:17

right? And once the once the line is patrolled it's a matter of minutes if not seconds before it's re-energized.

PresenterDanny Andersonthe Independent Living Resource CenterProposedself-stated4:01:24

All

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:01:25

right thank you very much back to Mr. Pontes right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed4:01:31

Chair Lavagnino at this point Director Hubbard is going to go ahead and take you through a short PSPS PowerPoint that staff has put together

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:01:43

And then public comment will be following that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed4:01:50

All right, thank you very much for hanging in here. So first I wanted to thank my OEM team and our partner agencies that have been working on this very diligently. This is week two for me so i'm reporting on this based on some of the efforts of the staff that have been here and those who've been coordinating and some of my own personal response that I've had in the past with my previous agencies. So thank you to all those who've been working on this So some of our slides do go over some of the things that we've heard from the utilities here. I won't rehash that fully, we'll just point out some important aspects of it that we wanted to highlight for the board where we're going to review some of the concepts related to the PSPS protocol, some examples that we've seen just give you an idea of what's happened already, introduce some of critical issues that we feel are important to the county challenges and consequences that we may see and then update the board on some recent efforts taken by staff So related to these protocol basics, we're already aware here of PG&E and SCE.

I want to point out that the governmental oversight for them is the California Public Utilities Commission and as Bob Stein noted that phase two is coming up so this is an opportunity where we'll hear some additional input on how these programs are being managed and utilized. I also want to point out on the advance notification, the priority is for public safety partners. And so it was highlighted a little bit but those public safety partners include the county and city's law on fire that also includes utilities like water wastewater communications and so those other public safety partners are part of that first initial notification.

And that per the PUC, the utilities are supposed to as possible so when possible give a 48-72 hour notice. So again there is that caveat of when possible but there is the direction for 48- 72 hour notice. Here, I want to just point out and actually legal counsel did touch on these so I'll skip over this but again legal counsel touched on the rulemaking on phase one. And then the reasonableness review that was identified previously.

I think it was Edison noted that the percentages of fires and such, and we look at the California top 20 largest fires. And then the next slide being the most destructive fires. And when you look at those nine of those 20 major wildfires were due to damage from electrical facilities. And so each of those nine were started by different components of electrical infrastructure. And so we wanted to point out that those large fires are very much a consideration and the concern for electrical power companies.

Oh, and I will note too on the campfire it does note as under investigation that was one that was determined to be due to electrical. Factors influencing as described by both of our utilities, there are multiple factors. Many of them are very similar. I want to highlight that again that not all of these are required to be present for a situation to be determined that this is going to be a PSPS event. So any one of these, a couple of these could be utilized. It's not that all of these have to be present in order for them to identify a PSPS event.

And then factors influencing the duration of de-energization. This is where I do want to spend a moment. So duration is based on fire weather conditions, so how long those fire weather conditions might exist plus the amount of time it takes for the company to physically inspect and then the amount of time to do repair and re-energize. So as Bob noted this doesn't take long if there's no damages to re-energize but the conditions, those fire weather conditions can last for days And so those fire weather conditions is really what drives how long in the duration of what these power outages could last.

And staff, OEM staff as county staff we are looking and recommending to our residents and our constituents that they prepare for five to seven days as a community preparedness goal level for PSPS. And so looking to that, again we don't know this fire weather conditions how long they'll last. So we're encouraging that five to seven day window of preparedness.

You've seen this map a few times. You've seen how it influences within Santa Barbara County. One of the concerns that we want to note and highlight is the fact that just because you are not in a Tier 2 or Tier 3 area does not mean that you may not be subject to an outage. So again, going back to those transmission line considerations, a transmission line PSPS event could impact residents who are not in Tier 2 or Tier 3 Part of that consideration, and let me see if I got my right clicker here is we are aware of for instance for PG&E there's a transmission line right about up here.

That is in a high fire tier three zone and that would impact portions of our county including tier one who may be thinking that hey I'm out of the zone I might not get impacted not necessarily true this could even be a transmission line that is outside of our county Okay, so a couple of recent events just to highlight and there's a lot of details here in the slides and I'll just highlight a few components of this that I wanted to point out.

The North Base here at Nevada Foothills PG&E event in June what I wanted to point out is just this example that was mentioned about doing in-person visits live agent calls and in person visits to medical baseline customers And then also this concept here, cancellation notification to customers who received advance notice but were not de-energized. So again emphasizing that you're going to have a population that may get notified and they may not get de-energized but you do have them in this heightened state of awareness and readiness potentially or also Concerns or fears for what may be the potential impacts to their individual safety.

This event duration, 21 hours 17 minutes in total. Going to the City of Orange, and I was actually in County of Orange for this event and was part of this notification process. And so one of the things I want to point out is again looking at the total number of customers that were initially part of the initial notification dropping down just a day later to a smaller portion to reduce circuit and really getting down to very few customers in the end that were actually affected by actual de-energization. I do want to note from my experience that there was a water special district that was not notified but ended up being within the de-energization area.

And so, there were some of those nuances that did occur where notification was not quite in alignment with who was necessarily impacted. Total duration 14 hours 41 minutes. Recent multi-county notification event from SCE. What I want to point out here is the length of time that these conditions continue to exist, so this was not the length of time of a power outage but this was the length of time of those customers being notified of a potential for PSPS and so six days of potential deenergization it's a long time to be sitting there identifying waiting for that Moving into critical issues and challenges for our county.

One, we want to highlight that this is not your typical power outage problem. This isn't the same as having a maintenance issue or related to a storm. The utilities are taking a proactive approach to shutting off power actively deciding to shut off power And the concept that our real concern comes down to is this possibility of a concurrent disaster. So we have a power shutoff and there's a wildfire at the same time. Again, power shutoff is to avoid the wildfires. It doesn't mean that they don't necessarily stop. We could still have that wildfire and also have the power shut off.

With that, where you have concerns with response and notification capabilities and how that power shut off may impact our ability to respond to any concurrent event that may occur. Critical issues and challenges. We won't know the final power outage area until it's actually happening, and so we get this certification from SCE or PG&E. They're giving us identified areas. A couple examples shows you how they continue to reduce the area which is great. That's wonderful news but until that actual de-energization happens then we really get a real feel for how many people are impacted especially when you think about in our community. We have a large hospitality community Knowing how much is coming in and out of our hospitality community. That impact population can really change until we know when that actually occurs.

Emergency medical shelter locations are limited potentially, and we're working with our Department of Public Health who's here and can help answer some questions in regards to that. And per SCE will continue to work forward on looking at additional opportunities for medical health support. But traditional emergency shelters that we may use for fire evacuation, these might not be viable without generator power. And so we're doing research into this and looking at what facilities may or may not be good facilities for this type of event.

Then when we talk about sheltering, we have to look at is this an emergency. And American Red Cross will not set up emergency shelters or reception shelters per se for a PSPS event unless it's tied to a larger emergency and so we would really have to look at how are we going to support these without American Red Cross? Is this local volunteers staffing? Where do those resources come from?

And we're continuing to work on these concepts, but it is something that's been identified to us from American Red Cross that this is not within their traditional shelter programming. This has been brought up a little bit here, but communication services. Concerns for them being inoperable, limited or overwhelmed. Challenges in the public to receive emergency alerts. We've met with some of the communications companies and they have some fairly good confidence in their systems. Some of our concerns then come on the public side. Do they have the capability to receive those alerts? Are there cell phones dying? Do they have power to their landlines, phones, those types of things.

I also want to point out, we've talked a little bit about the life-threatening situation for medically dependent. But then we're also worried about foodborne illnesses, consumption of spoiled food. Making sure that we're getting out information once these events do happen about how to properly handle your food and any medications again that might be in your refrigerator as well. And making sure we're getting that information out to the public.

OEM staff is working with public health on this on a couple of these issues and also working to make sure we update this on our aware and prepare website to ensure we're trying to get as much information up there as possible about some of these considerations. Financial challenges so PSPS events may or may not be considered an emergency, and so do these always or necessarily merit an emergency declaration?

That's going to take some additional policy discussion and considerations work with OES and other agencies who have worked on these issues. So there's a concept of whether or not it's declared and how those funding mechanisms of the declaration would integrate or work with those types of events If PSPS events are completely contained within a city jurisdiction, we are looking to that city to take on that responsibility and manage their population and coordinate that with our support monitoring and supporting as needed or requested. But I believe Matt met with the city managers and we've looked to them to take that lead for when it's within their own jurisdiction.

And to point out, it's not like oil spills where the responsible party has some obligation to help fund some of these concepts and it is very different. So the obligations related to funding are different and we're still working through some of those as is the PUC but currently there is no funding through the electrical companies to help with these responses and potential impacts.

I do want to point out a financial challenges. Part of that, one of the things that we want to talk about and just be aware of is when we get notification of these events regardless of them happening or not whether there is an actual de-energization there's a ramp up of staffing And that is on the county level and jurisdiction level, our non-profit partners, our OA partners where all of our agencies are going to be ramping up our staffing and our resources to potentially prepare for a de-energization event that may or may not occur. And again, that's another cost factor that's going to be there.

So to highlight here, wrap up. The threat of a PSPS event is imminent it is here could happen at any time. I don't know if you noticed on the City of Orange one that was in the middle December and New Year and so they can happen year-round as pointed out previously Staff, I think in some of the estimates we've heard is a minimum of 10 years while some of this hardening of infrastructure is occurring. And whether that hardening completely alleviates the need for them, that is to be foreseen but will help hopefully reduce the need.

And it's new, it's a new concept. So this is new for the state, this is new for local, for the utilities. So there are a lot of questions still related to fiscal responsibility, required assistance, how we work on backup generators and power, those types of concepts. And I think I'll leave it there as we continue to work through some of these other questions here.

Preparedness coordination, just to highlight some of the work that's already been done by the staff. We have had meetings with PG&E and SCE regarding some of these concepts although we do want to encourage continued meetings and coordination for that. County planning, the county has been in the process of multiple planning efforts including a PSPS contingency plan.

OEM annex for PSPS response so how is the Office of Emergency Management going to support? And then each of the county departments looking at their continuity of operation plans and how we're going to continue operations as a county. Care and sheltering planning, we mentioned medical shelters, multiple walk-through meetings with our OA partners Presentations and outreach, there's just a few of those. Really working on the outreach side right now on doing some additional materials that the OEM staff can provide whether that's through Aware & Prepare, some brochures, definitely looking at the Spanish translations currently working on some brochures and materials finalizing that language and those will definitely be translated.

So in then outreach also community or town hall meetings that we will work on scheduling in the next month or so. OA coordination with our OA partners, looking again at bilingual handouts, EMC committee meetings or emergency management committee meetings. We've met with other partners such as the Coast Guard, Adult Aging Network, County Education Office and some others and met with private sector partners just last week in some additional meetings coming up with some of our private sector partners.

So with that, unless Matt has some additional notes?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed4:18:18

So Mr. Chairman, members of the board as you can see we've had a lot of resources on this and I just want to give a couple thanks out there to our county department heads that are all engaged in looking at their own internal operations. To figure out if we have outages in those areas where we have county facilities and operations what impacts we might have.

We've been engaged with everybody but there's been a few handful of departments that have really stepped up and And really gone through a lot of planning efforts. I know that we have our public works representative here, Chris, here today to talk a little bit if there's any questions on traffic. I know that they've been working a lot on how to minimize traffic impacts throughout the operational area.

Fire has been engaged, our sheriff's team has been engaged on security and what happens when we lose power to some areas. As well as public health looking at all the different thresholds in trying to maintain a safe and healthy population here. I think our biggest challenge is understanding what's in each of these circuits and doing as much pre-planning as possible. And then putting that information into our GIS database so that we know when they, we get notified on these events. We know what's in those circuits, we know who to talk to and can hit the ground running with that time before it's de-energized.

And with that, I'd like to say another thanks to Terry Nesich from our office who's been working on trying to get the already SPC website a little more up-to-date, a little more current with PSPS and making sure that everything on there is. Is bilingual and our from our office of emergency management has been helping making sure we get all that information in Spanish and English.

So with that, we'd open it up to any other questions and move to the recommendations. Supervisor Hartman? And we stop public comment

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.754:20:08

Oh, well I just wanted to ask about the circuits and how much from my perspective this is the first of a set of ongoing meetings over 10 years if not longer. And we're you know the first is that the people who are On medical equipment but vulnerable seniors and others who are threatened by heat, people who are disabled. Anyway this will be a long sequence of both what we can do together as partners and then how we get communities to step up and care for each other.

But I wanted to focus on that Planning GIS, understanding circuits and where they are. And whether you have that information or whether you need it and what we or our partners can do to make sure that it is developed. And then you can come back in a short period of time and tell us about

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed4:21:09

Thank you for the question, Supervisor Hartman through the chair. So we do have all of the individualized circuits from the Southern California Edison jurisdiction and our GIS specialist Nancy has been taking those and really working with public health with their information on our medical baseline or Our sensitive needs population in those areas. So we have started that process in PG&E, we have a portal that Mr. Daniels reported on that has some information in it. It's not as specific to the individualized circuits as we have got from PG& E but it does provide us where the transmission lines are so we're still working with them to make sure that we get everything we can from them.

In terms of those individual circuits so that we can do more intense planning efforts in those areas.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.754:21:59

May I ask Mr Daniels, can you get us that information?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed4:22:11

My understanding is that the portal does have the circuits for you and it does have the number of the circuits, which would be the name of the circuit. So I'm not sure what you need.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed4:22:23

So we'll take another look at that and make sure we've got everything in there and let you know if we are still missing anything. Okay thanks.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.754:22:28

But we have your commitment, you'll do your very best to get us what we need so- That's correct. Okay thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:22:38

All right, let's go to public comment. How many speakers do we have?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:22:41

Chair Lavanino, members of the board, we have six requests to speak on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:22:44

Okay. Let's rock and roll.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:22:46

And we are going to begin in Santa Barbara with Ruth Dubin Steinberg to be followed by Danny Anderson.

PresenterRuth SteinbergJewish Family Service serving mostly an elderly populationProposedself-stated4:23:02

Good afternoon. First, I want to thank the Board of Supervisors for this opportunity to express some concern and offer a few recommendations on behalf of a community still recovering from trauma on the issue of PSPS protocol public safety power shutoff I am Ruth Steinberg. I'm a licensed clinical social worker and director of Jewish Family Service serving mostly an elderly population, many frail elderly but I want to make sure everybody knows our services are open to all not just Jewish clients I also participate on the community wellness team through the County Department of Behavioral Wellness formed after the Thomas Fire and debris flow disasters. We represent a number of mental health agencies and faith-based organizations. The professionals on this team serve a wide demographic from many, many walks of life.

So while there are many things that we could discuss, I wanted to limit my points here to just two that I wanted to raise related to PSPS. And that is first of all the crucial need, I think and we think for as much notice as possible to allow the community to try to prepare for this possibility. We really think that it takes time to prepare psychologically and emotionally for the likelihood or the possibility of this occurrence. People mentioned 24, 48 even 72 hours but the reality is it takes quite a bit of time to prepare in many ways for this kind of understanding while we certainly understand the necessity of these shutoffs We also see that this could likely re-traumatize members of the community and it's vitally important to address this now.

Now, and that's before there is a weather event especially in view of a possibility of five or seven day shutoffs being possible. And of course many issues arise you know we talked about those with medical needs but really everyone in the community Many, many members of the community that suffered so much trauma in the last disasters to really give them time. So that leads me to the second point which is that outreach and access to information is so key which a number of people did indicate. It's important to get the word out in a variety of ways taking into account all the members of our community including the frail homebound population So we therefore would urge the utilities to consider a simple and direct TV and radio PSAs for example, to help prepare the community in this way.

Again before there's a necessity for preparing in a hurry or under an emergency condition. September happens to be National Preparedness Month, so we believe to be prepared and not scared would be the order of the day. So I'm just urging you as a mental health professional representing my professional community to really consider this issue as we look forward to this possibility. Thank you so much for listening.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:26:05

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:26:06

We are going to stay in Santa Barbara with Danny Anderson and then returning to Santa Maria with Jamie Diggs.

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PresenterDanny Andersonthe Independent Living Resource CenterProposedself-stated4:26:19

Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Danny Anderson. I'm the executive director of the Independent Living Resource Center. I have so much to say in only three minutes. So I want to start by saying that I can appreciate the reports talking about the best case scenario a 21 hour For I can have some place to go that's accessible. And we're very lucky here in Santa Barbara to have EZ Lift, but that's not so. In all of our communities, that takes notice. Two days is not enough notice. A week is what they need. So here I am at home, my power's gonna go out, I can't breathe without a CPAP and I can't get around even my home without a charged up wheelchair. You give me two days' notice, I cant get a ride even if I could, where am I gonna go? Can't go to a friend or family's house, I don't have that.

Even if I did, I probably couldn't get into their house. There's probably steps to get into it. I probably can't use their restroom and I'm being told that hospitals are not the place to go there's not enough room and there may not be enough centers to accommodate everyone. This is not a matter of personal responsibility this is more than an inconvenience this is people's lives that we're talking about The medical baseline programs are wonderful. They're advertised historically as a way to save money on your bill, so I think that some major education is necessary to get more people to self-identify for the medical baseline program. I'm not even a member of the medical baseline program, so...I should probably go and do that.

I just want to really encourage the utilities companies to reach out to the Independent Living Resource Center. We serve Ventura, Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties. We're the only cross-disability organization of our type So please reach out to us and let us help you to better serve The disability community that goes for OEM's as well And I want to say thank you very much to the supervisors especially Supervisor Williams for your wonderful comments and questions and for asking for the communities And we are going to return to Santa Maria with Jamie Diggs, to be followed by Andy Caldwell.

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CommentJamie DixonProposedself-stated4:28:59

Hello, I'm Jamie Dixon, Partner Services Manager at the Food Bank of Santa Barbara County. Our CEO wasn't able to be present so here I am. The food bank is thankful that the county is planning for the serious challenges that are being posed today And we're very pleased to be a part of these discussions with the county. Especially recently, last week we had a meeting with OEM.

My superiors were there and they were discussing the challenges. There are over 350 nonprofit organizations that belong to the food bank and their membership. So they're very concerned about the basic nutrition needs that are even more vulnerable in a disaster context. So we are feeding local residents in this situation, It will present challenges such as distribution, food distribution sites will be shut down.

Schools will likely be closed and the children that receive two meals a day will not be fed. Food spoilage will be a major issue. Normal distribution routes may not be accessible or even effective and the list of challenges goes on, but we are eager to work with the county to plan and prepare our community for the potential power outages that may be in the foreseeable future.

But we're thankful that the county has such a long and strong history of engaging with the food bank And our partners to ensure that local residents have food to eat in the disaster context. And we certainly appreciate you involving the Food Bank and planning for the potential power shutdowns, thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:30:53

Our next speaker is Andy Caldwell to be followed by Paul Trunette.

PresenterAndy CaldwellProposed4:31:00

Chair Lavenino, members of the board. Andy Caldwell representing COLAB. I would title this that California's descent to third world health hole status continues. What we're talking about here is crisis prevention that could be the biggest crises that we've had in this county in more than 100 years. You may not have a fire, but shutting off the power in case you have a fire can cause more death and mayhem and destruction in our society than the fire.

And I don't understand why people aren't addressing this. I completely concur with Supervisor Adam that there's an issue of a spark from the utility. There's the issue of the fuel that is the function of government policies and priorities, and I don't see anybody doing a mea culpa. The bottom line is these companies are facing bankruptcy, and you contributed to that because you jumped on the bandwagon to sue them.

And there's only three groups of people that can pay for the cost of any of this. It's the stockholders, well they're in bankruptcy, it's the ratepayers and believe me they are going to get it and third is the taxpayers. In some cases the ratepayers and the taxpayers are the same. But the bottom line, the shutdowns can be more catastrophic because it's more widespread and it's going to be more frequent than the fires.

And this issue of 10 million acres of dead trees, 147 million dead or diseased trees. Most of those are on state or federal property and or under the protection of county and state policies. You're protecting the fuel, and then you're asking the utilities to clean up the mess, and you're asking your constituents to suffer the consequences. This is California being run by people that have no balance or perspective on reality. In terms of the fact that we've allowed these forests to overgrow, we've allowed the fuel to build up to 100 years. That last fire wasn't a fire it was an explosion.

And you guys, government at every level because of CEQA, US forest policies and county policies are responsible for that. We can't get mechanized clearing even after a fire started without special permission. You prohibit agriculture and grazing in certain areas of the county resource management zones. You need to start raising hell with the PUC, the California State Government and our federal government to change the underlying circumstances. And again I would ask that they pull this program entirely because it's worse than the fires because it spread over a much larger area and these deaths could happen for nothing. It could be a false alarm, no fire that people locked in their homes without breathing machines, medicines, food and God knows what else.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:34:22

Our next speaker is Paul Jeanette to be followed by David Maislew

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PresenterPaul ShunayCuyama Community Services District BoardProposedself-stated4:34:29

Chair Lavangino and members of the board, I am Paul Shunay. And I'm here today as the president of the Cuyama Community Services District Board. I want to be clear that I'm not opposed to any means that protects the loss of life and property due to wildfires. However, I believe that the public safety power shutoff disproportionately affects disadvantaged rural remote communities as in New Quiama.

Community Services District does not have the fiscal nor the human resources to deal with the negative impact of a long term power shut off. We do not have backup power supply for our waste water plant, nor are raw water pumps for our municipal water source. It is estimated that our waste water plant will be out of commission in about eight hours. And this may result in a sewage spill in a creek bed causing major environmental damage.

Furthermore, due to the remote location and lack of transportation serving many New Quiama residents have no alternative and will be forced to stay in their homes with no sanitary services. I find it troubling that Mr. Daniels with PG&E not even address the other parts of Santa Barbara County that PG&E services Our power does not originate from Moss Landing, but from Kern County.

And it is not provided by high lines as the Moss Landing power supply comes in from the north and it is by regular low KBA lines. So in closing, I am asking that the County of Santa Barbara and PG&E work with the Quiama Community Services District to help negotiate. And mitigate the severe consequences of a long-term power loss to the community of New Quiama. We are appreciative and thankful that the Department of OEM did come out and brief us on the power shut off, however we reached out to, the Community Association reached out to PG&E and we were told that they didn't have the resources to come out and speak with us.

Thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:37:05

And our final speaker is David Maislew. Is David here?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:37:15

One more chance for David. Okay, he may have left. All right that closes out public comment. I think I speak for the board when I want to thank Mr. Pontes and Director Hubbard, almost promoted you there. You would have never taken the job if you were a doctor but- Feel like you've already been there a while. It was a really good presentation and, you know, you really stepped into kind of a hornet's nest but I feel like we're in capable hands so appreciate you being there.

Any other questions from board members or comments? Supervisor Williams

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed4:37:57

Well, I just wanted to raise one issue that I hope you'll follow up with which is working with the Sheriff's Department about the power shutoffs sometimes are an opportunity for the wrong people. And so I think we do need to see some coordination with the sheriff's department and then just want to thank all our whole county family that's working on this including the new members of the family.

OEM, public health, CEO's office, public works sheriff and fire for keeping us safe. And I don't know maybe a suggestion that in the staff recommendation we actually bring this back because Issues like how much mitigation infrastructure work utilities are going to make, that they have that information somewhere but we'd like to hear it. And then it sounds to me like they're attempting to get to a situation where they could repower on a typical sundowner between evenings. But I think further examination of Would be really warranted as well as looking internally in our own community whether we're going to have enough of a network of cooling centers.

Since that sounds like that's going to be left up to our non-profits or us, so.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:39:35

Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.754:39:37

I just wanted to echo that, I don't know three or four months. I mean, I think this is going to be a phased in process and we're starting with the most urgent first. I also am very grateful to Matt Pontus and all the county departments that are now thinking about this. I know public works and roads just if it's dark and there's no power and Reminding people what the rules of the road are.

So that's really important I was holding office hours in Mesa Oaks recently and three of the 15 people who were there Have solar and battery because the battery Will enable houses to continue with their power, so I think this is a real opportunity to promote renewable energy adoption of solar battery storage and then Microgrids, I'm very glad that the county now is part of Monterey Bay Clean Power working towards that and part of the money that they generate will be reinvested into micro grids. And I think over the longer run we need to be planning where those are most important, where they can do the most good soonest.

So those are my comments, thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:40:57

All right, can I get a motion? Do we need Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed4:41:02

Williams? I'll move staff recommendation with the amendment that we bring it back at a later date to get an update on some of the questions raised today. Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:41:16

Before we go to a vote, I also wanted to thank both of our utilities for being here. Really do appreciate it. You've got your hands full with a lot of, I don't know how many you said you were doing Eric but 35 or so but thank you for being here and taking the time. It's something all of our offices are hearing a lot about and we're going to hear a lot more about them especially when the first one goes down. So Mr. Gazzone where you looking to weigh in?

CommentAndy CaldwellProposed · by introduction4:41:43

Chair, not on the motion but just I had received questions from individual supervisors and address that somewhat in the discussion of resolution ESRB 8 from 2018 which includes two mitigation measures that are really assigned to the investor-owned utilities. One example is the requirement IOU, Investor Owned Utility can discuss with the local government and the community what the utility can do to lessen negative impacts. And gives the example of a cooling center.

And the second as we've discussed in this slide is discussion that the investor owned utility may provide generators to critical facilities. So just as we're coming back that'll be part of what we're looking at also.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:42:27

Okay very good so we have a motion and a second all those in favor? Aye. Anybody opposed? Great, thank you. We're heading to closed session. Mr. Gazzone can you give us a read in the closed session please?

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CommentAndy CaldwellProposed · by introduction4:42:39

Chair and supervisors we have approximately one hour of closed session with three litigation matters. The first is Blanco versus County of Santa Barbara. The second is Murray versus County of Santa Barbara and the third is Nelson versus Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department and County of Santa Barbara. Again my estimate is about one hour.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:42:57

Okay very good. Thank you. you

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CommentAndy CaldwellProposed · by introduction5:33:37

Mr. Gazzani can we get a report out of closed session? Chair and supervisors today in closed session the board considered three matters of existing litigation. First was Blanco versus County of Santa Barbara. Second was Murray versus County of Santa Barbara. And the third was Nelson versus Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office. There are no reportable actions.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:33:57

Okay, with that we will adjourn our meeting and we will meet again on September the 10th in Santa Barbara.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:34:35

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