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Good morning, everybody. I'd like to welcome you to this meeting of the County Board of Supervisors. Good morning. All right, Madam Clerk can I get a roll call please?
Mr. Adam? Here. Mr. Williams? Here. Mr Hart?
Here
Ms Hartman? Here Mr Lavinino?
Here If you could all
All right we got a packet of minutes to approve I think we can do these. Everybody was attended each meeting, all the meetings so if we can get one motion to approve the minutes of November 9th, the emergency meeting of November 26th, the special meeting of November 26th and a special meeting of December 3rd.
Move approval of both package of minutes.
Although I believe it's November 19th.
As corrected.
Second?
Wait a minute. I said November 19th two on the 26th one on the 30th is that wrong? Okay, well it won't be the first time or last time I will be wrong today. So here we go so we have a motion to approve all of these minutes Is there second and a second? All those in favor? Aye Any opposed? Pass unanimously CEO Mia Sato. Do we have a CEOs report today?
Yes, we do Good morning supervisor Supervisors chair Lavinino today. We have three items in the CEOs report The first is to kick off our toys for tots and holiday food drive The county is sponsoring two worthwhile campaigns this holiday season the Marine Corps We are also collecting socks and personal hygiene items for those experiencing homelessness. Toy and food collection bins are located in the county administrative buildings in Santa Barbara and Santa Maria through December 18th. Collection boxes are also located at all our county fire stations, and many sheriff substations.
To provide new unwrapped toys, non-perishable food and socks. Today with us Tom Reed from the Unity Shop is here to officially kick off the toy and food drives. And so I'd ask Tom to come up and say a few words and then I believe the board would like to be the first to drop off their donations in the box.
Thank you very much Chairman Steeve friends on the board it's a joy to be here this is a fabulous season unity shop has been around 102 years I've been there the whole time. It's a great season. We are taking care of families, about 150 families a day right now. And as you would know these are the food insecure families that are basically in crisis. They are about to have or could have Christmas season holiday season without enough food and certainly without toys or warm winter clothes and so we're taking care of those families and it's really a joy for us to do that.
Some of you may have heard and are aware that unity had to close back in October for a while temporarily, and that had to do with Thomas fire. We've been doing disaster work since the T fire case you see the fire even the painted cave fire. And so when disasters happen, we have a long-term disaster recovery program and we jumped into it. When the Thomas Fire happened, we had four fundraisers that canceled almost immediately. One was the Association of Realtors. That was about a $70,000 benefit to us. The other ones were smaller but then the telethon that year Distracted everybody was evacuated and then three weeks later here comes the Montecito debris flow We hired three people dove in as everybody did it was a community effort And so when we didn't get reimbursed for those expenses, that's kind of a black art.
Nobody's figured out how to do that quite We ended up not having enough funds to carry us through this year So we had to close temporarily were thrilled to have been reopened November the 12th and we're back on track The community really stepped up to help Some don't understand what happened and assume there's mismanagement of some kind and so We're still struggling because of some people withholding funding, but let me just tell you we're having a great time And we're celebrating Brad Paisley will be on the telethon this Saturday so please tune in from 4 until 8 and he's opening the second Unity shop in Nashville next year.
And so we're gaining a lot of national attention, and many people in this community are taking unity for granted because we've been around 100 years. Always been here, but it is truly unique. It's a very special thing something all of us all of you folks can be very proud of so thanks for helping today with the food for the with the toys for tots and Telethon is this Saturday 4 to 8 KUAT God bless y'all. Thanks so much. Thank you for all that you do
Well, we're going to bring him down but I really think Supervisor Adam needs to explain his toy for a second. He
wants to explain his toy. Well, I think we usually explain our toys to some extent or another. So what we have here, I tasked my staff on finding me a mascot for the Bank of Unicorns and Rainbows. And so what I ended up with was a two-parter which I wasn't looking for. I was really just looking for the one perfect mascot But I ended up with the rainbow stacker, which is a good toy and then the stuffed unicorn there.
And that's not a real unicorn by the way. No unicorns were harmed during the making of this toy. So and then and then you know as always apropos for our proceedings we have the box of lies. So that's a Jimmy Fallon game, and I think somebody will have a lot of fun with that so Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas. Supervisor Hartman?
Oh, I didn't realize my light was on but we are working on an ag tourism ordinance and we sit between two major metropolitan areas San Francisco and Los Angeles a lot of people don't know about how food is where it comes from in what country life is like I think we have an opportunity especially in my third district and the Santa Ynez Valley.
Supervisor Williams
Well I have a kid's lab product because science experiments are really cool and I'm pro-science so. Supervisor Hart?
My toy is fun.
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You win! I went old school, so I'm not sure the kids gonna be too excited when they open mine but the parents will love it. It's light bright and spirographed. Do we want a photo? Yeah. That's funny. All
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drop. OK. Get in here. Jump on the biggest one. OK,
thank you.
Thank you again, Tom. Our second item today is that Chris Lee is here from the California State Association of Counties, or CSAC. To personally present three awards that the county received this year. One is a merit award for the Tejiguas project. One is a merit award for the co-response unit and a challenge award for our shared mobility device program which is regulating our electronic scooter bike program. Chris?
Good morning Chair Lavandino, members of the Board of Supervisors. My name is Chris Lee with the California State Association of Counties. For anyone who doesn't know we are the voice of California's 58 counties at the statewide level and we're pleased to represent you and your 57 other county colleagues before the state legislature. I also have the pleasure of working very closely with your Public Works Department as the director of CSAC's County Engineers Association of California, which is our public works affiliate. And I just want to say, as evidenced by the awards today we really view Santa Barbara County as a leader in public works not just at the statewide level but with our national association as well.
As the CAO mentioned, we're here today to present the challenge awards for 2019 that were won by the County of Santa Barbara. We had over 200, I think 268 applications for our annual challenge awards this year which is the second highest that we've ever had in our 26-year history And we do this not just to highlight the great work that you're doing here in Santa Barbara, but also with an eye towards are these programs replicable? Can other counties learn from them and implement the best practices that you're doing here. So I'll move quickly to our first award today.
Two programs were awarded with merit awards, which is kind of the lower level award. Let's start first with the development of a regional waste management solution. So this 10-year process sought to replace the dwindling capacity of the Tajiguas landfill and develop infrastructure to comply with mounting state requirements to keep food scraps and organics out of landfills and reduce greenhouse gas emissions. After extensive research and consultation, the Santa Barbara County Resource Recovery and Waste Management Division chose to build an anaerobic digester in a materials recovery facility at the site of the existing landfill. The new operation called the Resource Center is the first operation in California to combine a large-scale digester with a materials recovery facility at a landfill.
The center will serve 210,000 residents and businesses, divert 60% of waste from the landfill, and reduce greenhouse gas emissions creating 100 permanent jobs. For innovation in environmental protection I am pleased to present this CSAC merit award to Todd Curtis, Civil Engineer, Carlisle Johnston, Project Leader for the County Department of Public Works, and Jeanette Gonzalez-Knight, the Operations Manager for Permits & Engineering
Scott, get over there. Scott, get over there. And Leslie. Yes, Leslie. Leslie Wells as well and Scott McGaulpin our department director. How'd you know it was the big one, Scott? You might be...
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better look!
All right, next up is the Merit Award for the program Behavioral Sciences Unit Co-Response Team. So in response to an increase in mental health calls for service, the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office created the Behavioral Science Unit to provide training, oversight and management of its responsibility to mentally ill persons experiencing crisis. Under the management of a licensed clinical psychologist specializing in police psychology, the BSU has two primary initiatives. The crisis intervention training for law enforcement and a field response unit called the co-response team.
Staffed with a crisis intervention trained deputy sheriff and a mental health crisis worker from the behavioral wellness department The co-response team responds to mental health related calls in progress and follows up with heavy system utilizers to improve treatment compliance and reduce relapses. This innovative program, including the co-response team has reduced the number of deputy sheriff's time spent on calls involving mental health crises. I'm pleased today to present this CSAC merit award to Dr. Sherrilyn Lee from the behavioral science manager for the Sheriff's Department and Commander Rob Plastino from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office.
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And Dr. Glegorn.
Excuse me, I'd also like our Behavioral Health Director Alice Glegorn to come because this is a collaboration of behavioral wellness so thank you all.
And now on to our challenge award. We're privileged to present a 2019 Challenge Award to Santa Barbara County for the Shared Mobility Device Program. These shared devices, like bikes and scooters in particular, offer a well-functioning alternative and transportation choice but unregulated programs can have negative impacts like improper parking and roadways. Santa Barbara County Public Works worked quickly to engage stakeholder groups and create a successful program that changed the county code carefully to provide on-demand service while avoiding nuisance and safety issues. A provision in the program includes removal of abandoned or destroyed SMDs, and gives the county authority to remove a scooter or bike left in a right-of-way or that obstructs traffic flow.
Within just a few months of launching the shared mobility devices program within the community of Isla Vista, SMD violations are down 93%, keeping the streets and sidewalks safe. For this effective and well thought out program we are proud to present Santa Barbara County with a 2019 CSAC Challenge Award. Accepting the award today are Gary Smart, Traffic Engineer, and Alyssa Hazard, Engineering Technician II.
That concludes my presentation. Thank you for the opportunity to present and to represent you in Sacramento.
Very good, thank you so much for being here.
And now for our last item for the CEO's report. Second District Supervisor Greg Hart has asked for a quick report out on the San Antonio Basin and the impact of the rains last weekend. So I've asked Tom Fairam from Public Works to give a quick update.
Thank you, CEO Misada. Mr. Chair and members of the board a quick report on our actions following the cave fire. This map up here is a watershed map that shows the outline of the cave fire. The main area of concern that we would have in terms of watershed impacts are the San Antonio Watershed which drains through Goleta as well as Marie Ignacio. As we've seen in past fires, we're having less and less time to actually mobilize and get going following a fire. And in this case I think we had 30 hours from the time the fire was at least under control where we could get into the first rain that has fallen since that time our San Antonio debris basin has been Pursuant to our protocol, completely clean back out to line and grade.
It had minimal material in it within our operating protocols but with a fire we completely empty it. Stream clearing has taken place in San Antonio Creek from the debris basin down to 101 and will be working on Maria Ignacio Creek to do the same Also as an update, we did receive this month six inches of rain on San Marcos Pass so we have gotten some rain. There has been some material mostly silty sand material that's been brought into San Antonio Debris Basin and our staff will be entering that basin today and we'll have it cleaned up for future rains.
And while this is obviously a concern we want to make sure everybody knows we have not taken our eyes off of Montecito. We now just have another watershed to watch really closely and as always we'll be on station all winter long Doing whatever we need to do. So, unless there's any other questions? Supervisor Hart?
I just want to thank you for your quick response and getting out there quickly clearing out the debris basin and making things as safe as possible and being on top of it after every storm. I really just appreciate the extra work of your team all the contractors that are out there all hours of the day and night to make this happen so thank you.
Yes, I'd also mention supervisor that in Emery Ignacio we also had a debris rack put in also at Debris Rack in Tucker's Grove Park And that was all done by our contractors. Our contractors, they answer the phone at all hours and respond immediately. We're very appreciative to them. Thank you.
That concludes the CEO's report, but I just want to note for those who haven't noticed the obvious at three of those reports. One report was done by Tom Fairam and the other two awardees were from the Public Works Department so I want to acknowledge Scott McGulpin who wasn't recognized as department director for all their excellent work. Thank you Scott.
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All right, that takes us to our honorary resolutions. Can I get a motion to approve items A1 through 3?
So moved.
Moved and seconded. All those in favor? Aye. I guess we're all on those then. Okay so let's go with A1
Chair Lavinino, members of the board. Administrative item number one is sponsored by Supervisor Williams and Supervisor Hart. It is to adopt a resolution celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Santa Barbara Metropolitan Transit District. And if I can have Jerry Estrada, Hillary Blackerby and Dave Davis to the podium please? And they'll go ahead and read the resolution.
Whereas on February 1st 1969 The Santa Barbara Metropolitan Transit District, Santa Barbara MTD began public transit service with 12 buses serving eight routes with a base fare of 25 cents. And whereas Santa Barbara MTD's service territory encompasses Goleta, Santa Barbara, Carpinteria, Isla Vista, Summerland, Montecito and other unincorporated areas in Santa Barbara County where fixed route transit operates 363 days a year. And whereas Santa Barbara MTD has long been a pioneer in the clean transportation space, beginning with the introduction of battery electric shuttles into service in Santa Barbara in 1991. Proudly operating the first battery electric transit fleet in the United States and whereas Santa Barbara MTD provides high quality public transit service to people of all ages backgrounds and abilities and has partnered with UC Santa Barbara and Santa Barbara City College for decades to provide unlimited and affordable transit to students with a pass program And whereas Santa Barbara MTD now provides over 6.4 million passenger trips annually with an average daily ridership of over 21,000 and whereas Santa Barbara MTD operates a fleet of 114 vehicles and has set a goal of having 100% battery electric fleet by 2030.
Now therefore let it be resolved that this Board of Supervisors of Santa Barbara County does hereby honor and commend Santa Barbara MTD And its leaders for their service to our community on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of providing public transit service passed and adopted today.
Thank you very much. I'm Dave Davis, I'm the chairman of the MTD board. I can say that 50 years ago I was riding the bus when I was a student at UCSB so 50 years later I'm still riding the bus in that regard and we're very proud of your support. We're very proud of what MTD has done over the years. I'd like Jerry to say a few words as general manager
Good morning, thank you so much for this honor. As General Manager of MTD it's my privilege having grown up here in Santa Barbara County being a local, being able to serve the people and the community I grew up in is a real privilege on behalf of MTD again thank you all the employees 50 years we're really proud I think of what we've accomplished at this point we essentially handle 80% of the public transit ridership countywide The electric vehicle program has been in place for decades at this point and it's growing.
We've made the move to renewable diesel this month as well, and ultimately we produce were recognized by the Federal Transit Administration is small transit intensive community on the south coast. In the entire country that has scored at that level on all six measures since the inception of that program almost 20 years ago. And that's a real credit to the community that's embraced public transit and continues to support it, and we say thank you to the community.
Yeah, we're going to go. OK if you want to do it now let's do it now.
Chair Lavinino and members of the board, we do have one request to speak on MNO325 number 1 and that is Tom Becker.
Good morning.
Thank you. I'd like to say that MPD has now run on, is now running on renewable diesel. Now according to their flyer that they submitted at their press release, renewable diesel has a carbon footprint one-third that of their electric buses. In other words, when the electric buses plug into the grid they generate three times the amount of carbon footprint that renewable diesel did.
Now in 2000 MTD killed a renewable diesel alternative to their electric buses known as the South Coast Transit Plan. They killed it MTD said, no we can't do it because we have to have special tanks blah blah blah. Well turns out now that they admit, no, we don't need to have special tanks or special equipment. It's a drop in fuel. Now, MTD got caught in bid rigging in 2000.
That's the reason why they didn't want renewable fuel because MTD management it turns out had secretly started an electric bus parts business and had rigged the specifications for the buses so you'd have to buy their parts when a complaint was registered with the Federal Transit Administration They gave that money back so fast it made your head swim, and they did it to avoid a criminal investigation of their practices by the Federal Transit Administration.
So what MTD did is that they went with hybrid buses which was I guess the next best politically correct thing to do but now we get to the issue of public safety Just this last October there was a fatal accident in Santa Barbara. One person was killed, another person grievously injured. That accident was so bad that the legs on one of those victims were actually severed and flung into a parking lot.
That was a hybrid electric bus that was involved in that accident. Now I talked to several of the bus drivers at work for MTD And they informed me that the hybrid electric buses have a problem with surging from a stop or from slow speed. That there's a transition between the electric motor and the diesel that causes a surge, and the bus basically has an uncommanded acceleration.
These people right back here knew that. They were warned about that surge by their drivers. Now this accident is still under investigation. We don't know what caused it. It's been two months now, but the drivers that I talked to did point to the surge problem as a possible causal factor in that absolutely horrendous accident. And we'll talk more about this on A30.
Thank you. Thank you.
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Okay, we'll go to A2.
Yes, Chair Lavinino and members of the board. Administrative item number two is sponsored by Supervisor Adam. It is to adopt a resolution in support of human rights for the people of Hong Kong. And if I can please have Charles Lam from the Hong Kong Forum to the podium please? Thank you. I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Whereas- She's going to
read the resolution. And you can bring your microphone down so that it moves. There you go. Go ahead.
Whereas the people of Hong Kong are entitled to certain human rights under the Basic Law, embodied in an agreement entitled The Joint Declaration of the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the People's Republic of China on the Question of Hong Kong done at Beijing December 19th 1984 referred to as The Joint Declaration. And whereas the people of Hong Kong have been subject to increasingly brutal repression violence hardships and denial of these same rights enumerated in the joint declaration by a tyrannical communist government of the People's Republic of China and whereas the demands of the protesters in Hong Kong are as follows. One, full withdrawal of the extradition bill allowing alleged criminals to be deported from Hong Kong to mainland China for trial.
Two, a commission of inquiry into alleged police brutality. Three, retraction of the classification of non-violent protesters as rioters. Four, amnesty for arrested protestors and five Dual universal suffrage for both Legislative Council and the Chief Executive, as guaranteed under the 1984 Basic Law. And whereas the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors finds these five demands of the protesters reasonable, legitimate and proper. And this board supports the rights to which the people of Hong Kong are entitled including individual freedom, liberty and most especially the right to vote for the representatives and executive. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors endorses and supports S1838 the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019 Which has been passed and signed by the President on November 27th, 2019.
Be it further resolved that we stand with Hong Kong passed and adopted today.
Mr Chair and fellow supervisors I'm Charles Lam an executive board member for Hong Kong Forum Los Angeles and a spokesperson for the organization that concerns about the democracy movement of Hong Kong. I would like to express my gratitude to the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors, especially Supervisor Adam for introducing this resolution. The democracy movement is entering its seventh month now.
In the past six months we saw 16,000 tear gas canisters launched against the protesters all over the city and it's a very tiny city The abuse from the Hong Kong government and the law enforcement in Hong Kong has not stopped. Clearly, the Hong Kong government has yet to open a dialogue with the residents of Hong Kong. Hong Kong people remain steadfast on the five demands which leads to universal suffrage for Chief Executive and the Legislative Council and we demand not one less.
Many volunteers in this country from Santa Barbara to Los Angeles to Seattle, Boston, New York and Miami have worked with our elected officials to voice our support for Hong Kong. We are extremely grateful for the support that we received and as the residents keep fighting for their rights and protect the international interests, we ask that you keep Hong Kong in your mind.
Your support keeps us energized And last but not least, as our slogans would say, fight for freedom. Stand with Hong Kong. In five demands, not one less. Thank you.
I believe we have a couple of public speakers on item A2?
Yes, Chair Lavinino and members of the board. We have two requests to speak on this item and we are going to Santa Maria to begin with Joe Armaderez To be followed by Andy Caldwell. Joe?
Good morning, can you hear me? Yes. I'm Joe Armendariz representing Santa Barbara County Taxpayers Association. Before I forget, Merry Christmas to all of you. I think this is the last meeting before Christmas. Sincerely and genuinely congratulate Supervisor Adam for putting this item on the agenda. I think the moral clarity that it required for him to do that should not be unnoticed. I've said many times in my writings and in my waxing poetic over the many years, that the democracy movement, The ideals, the first principles articulated in Thomas Jefferson's Declaration of Independence were not meant for white people only. They were meant for all people in all places, in all climates, in all geographical locations.
The yearning for freedom is embedded in our DNA and America which is the indispensable nation The exceptional nation must always, through its elected representatives, stand up for freedom. Stand up for liberty. Stand up for the right to pursue happiness which I would argue is inextricably linked to the right to own property, the right to keep more of what you earn. These are not American ideals they are universal ideals and what has happened over the last several days weeks and months as it relates to Hong Kong particularly With respect to the NBA has been shameful. And I think that Supervisor Adams' decision to put this on the agenda and showcase it, and focus on it, and highlight it is something that he ought to be complimented for and congratulated on.
And also want to acknowledge the other four of you for agreeing to sign onto this thing so thank you very much.
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And our final speaker on this item is Andy Calwell in Santa Maria.
Chairman Lavinino, members of the board. I'm Andy Caldwell representing CoLab. I've done quite a number of shows on this subject with people that have actually lived and worked in Hong Kong. And what's remarkable to me is that there's a big huge push on college campuses across the land for what's called the BDS movement, Boycott Divestment Sanction. Israel vis-a-vis the Palestinians in that issue. But nobody's talking, scarcely anybody is talking about what's going on in China And secondly, as is evidenced later on in your agenda. There's all this talk virtue signaling and an echo chamber about greenhouse gases and pollution in the ocean. And yet China, India, and Pakistan are responsible for some 60% of all the greenhouse gas emissions in the world.
There's a couple of other countries that are responsible for upwards of 80% of all the pollution in the ocean. And yet, the American left and the progressives and the so-called environmentalists are silent. They instead are literally grasping at straws here in America. And it was only until what? A week ago that the Senate and the House finally weighed in on the freedom and liberty of the people from Hong Kong.
China is one of the most repressive murderous regimes in all of human history. In fact, most people believe it is number one in terms of the number of people its own people that they have slaughtered Since they became a communist country decades ago. And yet they get a free pass, they get a free pass from people like as Joe Armendariz mentioned LeBron James because he wants to sell shoes and jerseys in China.
Somebody once told me that if the left didn't have double standards they wouldn't have any standards at all. And my question to you is, why aren't you and not necessarily in your capacity as Board of Supervisors because I agree with the basic principle of Steve Lavinino that many of these things are out of your lane. But the bottom line is individuals as activists and leaders in the community, why not condemn wrongdoing wherever you find it by whomever it is committed without prejudice or favor?
The bottom line here is China is not a country that values equality, freedom, liberty and it certainly is not kind to the environment. And I wish that American environmentalists so to speak would focus their attention where it really matters. Thank you.
Okay, that takes us to A3. Supervisor
Williams? I just wanted to thank Supervisor Adam for authoring this resolution. I want to say that sometimes we think of these things as just symbolic, but I do think that it creates the atmosphere and conditions in a In a shared democracy like we have, where we take a stand and maybe then state legislatures take a stand and maybe Congress takes a stronger stand.
So hopefully this resolution will be noticed because I do think it helps create the conditions for a stronger stance on China. And I do advocate for that in the past. We have in fact done resolution about Human rights abuses in regards to religious persecution of the Falun Gong. And I do think that, I think Andy's being a little unfair here. I think that what is good in a democracy that right now is so divided is if we can unify around an issue like this where The ideals of what holds America together really is, as Mr. Armendariz articulated, are also universal values that we call American values Because maybe we hope that we can be a beacon of those, but they're really universal yearnings in the human heart.
And that maybe in this divided time we can pull together and exemplify those values. So thank you. Thank
you, Supervisor Hartman.
Thank you Mr. Chair I just wanted to add that it is symbolic but as we heard it's also energizing to protesters to hear that we stand with them and I also wanted to note that there was bipartisan support for this bill in the U.S. Congress.
OK.
Oh Supervisor Adam well I will say that I was I started this quite a while ago and having it passed by the Congress and signed by the president Before it got here, was a little disappointing because I thought I was going to be on the other front end of the thing and then it turned out I was too late. Trailblazer. But yeah well you know we do a lot of these things and I normally subscribe to the Supervisor Lavinino school where we should probably stay in our lane but this one you know I watched Fox Business in the morning and they've been covering this story a lot Particularly Maria Bartiromo, if anybody watches her. And it's just tragic and so I got moved and I had to do it so there we are and thank you Mr. Lamb for coming in and giving us a person to talk to and hear from.
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All right, very good. That takes us to item A3.
Yes, Chair Lavanino and members of the board. Administrative Item number three is sponsored by Supervisor Lavanino. It is to adopt a resolution of commendation honoring Raul Baez of the Assessor's Office as the December 2019 Employee of the Month in Santa Barbara County. And if Raul can come to the podium please and anyone you'd like to join you? And I'll go ahead and read the resolution.
Whereas Raul Baez began his career with the county in 1980 as a clerk typist one with the assessor's office, and due to his diligence and hard work was promoted to an appraiser aide in May 1983, and then hired as an appraiser one in March 1985. And whereas Raul, a certified appraiser for property tax purposes by the Board of Equalization continued his appraisal training and education and was promoted through the ranks from an appraiser one to an appraiser two To an appraiser three and then in 1999 to an appraiser supervisor. And whereas over the past 40 years, Raul has well and faithfully served the citizens of Santa Barbara County overseeing and ensuring fair and equitable assessments and explaining the complicated property tax structure of California including proposition 13 supplemental assessments.
Proposition 8 and disaster valuations, both in English and Spanish to a non-property tax audience. And whereas Raul is an avid soccer enthusiast and has shared his talent with his community as a semi pro player, coach, coach instructor, and referee over the years. Raul, aka Lowe's 49ers is also an undying San Francisco 49ers fan and rooted for his team through the highs and the lows. And whereas Raul is extremely personable and is always willing to mentor and help his staff and share his vast knowledge with his colleagues. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors recognizes Raul Baez as the employee of the month for December 2019.
Good morning, Mr. Chair, members of the board, fellow employees and guests. My name is Susan Morrison. I'm the Chief Deputy Assessor and on behalf of Mr. Holland, the Clerk Recorder, Assessor, Registrar of Voters who is out of the state currently, I would like to offer our sincere congratulations to Raul who has served not only our department in our county but the citizens of Santa Barbara County for the past 40 years.
He is so knowledgeable about everything related to property taxes and assessments, and we truly appreciate his service to our community. One of the highlights Raul's service during the unfortunate Montecito debris flow. And the aftermath of that, he spent countless hours at the county, I don't even know, the center where people came to get information. He was out there manning the desk providing information to property owners that were unfortunately affected by the fire and the debris flow that had damage or loss to their property.
He provided great service to the citizens in that respect. And unfortunately, rumor has it that Roel is retiring soon and we will be losing his services but we do want to acknowledge his many years of service to our citizens here in Santa Barbara County.
Wow, 40 years. Yeah, I started at four years old. All right, eight years old. But I just want to say thank you for this recognition. I accept this award on behalf of all my colleagues and co-workers in the Assessor's Office who dedicated all the hard work allowing me to be selected for this honor. I truly believe there is no I in this team. In particular, I want to single out a thanks to my staff, to upper management, all the HR and this whole staff from the assessor's office.
In closing, I would like to thank my wife Teresa, my daughter, my sister and all my family always been there for supporting on my work. I'd like to say thank you very much.
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OK so are there any items that anybody would like to pull from the administrative agenda. I think from the public we've heard a 30
yes chair Levin you know members of the board have one request to speak on item A 17 and 16 requests to speak on item a 30.
OK. And a 15 a 15. I heard a 19 earlier somebody had no that's a no. Yeah yes. OK. A 19 and I'm pulling 8 8. And so let's start off it looks like we'll go in order let's start with a 8 0 can I get a motion to approve the balance of the administrative agenda.
So moved.
Moved and seconded all those in favor. Aye. Any opposed. It is all passed unanimously. All right, let's go to A8 please.
Chair Lavinino and members of the board administrative item number 8 is from the auditor controller it is to consider recommendations regarding single audit reports for the fiscal year ended June 30th 2019 all right
thank you very much I just wanted to pull this item to highlight some great work that's being done in our county This is an area, this single audit report just for people that don't know what it is. It's the federal government coming in and meticulously examining some of the records in our social services department. This was a major concern of mine when I first took office ten years ago.
And the reason why it was a major concern was because during these audits we routinely failed these audits and they would find a number of inconsistencies in our work. Through some corrective action and I think really some great leadership at the top of the department with Daniel Nielsen, his management staff. And then the buy-in of all the front line staff.
This goes all the way to AOPs that are inputting the codes. It's our eligibility workers, it's our social workers. It went from in 2003, eight of the nine programs that were audited received a qualified opinion. Which qualified sounds good but it's actually a failing opinion. Now we've moved it to for the last three years in a row out of everything that's been audited there have been no findings all of the programs have passed the audit and what these are is the reason why it's so important to me These are programs like SNAP, which is food stamps. This is Medicaid, foster care, home funds. So the reason why it's important to me there's two reasons and it's number one the people that are coming into our social services department are getting the service that they deserve.
They're getting their applications turned around in the statutorily demanded time. And what's also important to me is the taxpayer is receiving the bang for their buck and that we're realizing as these audits are going through, they're looking at determining did the person that received these benefits, were they qualified to receive the benefits? Did they receive the exact amount? Did they get a penny more or a penny less than what they were entitled to.
And so we don't pass these audits unless every single person on that line is committed to excellence and Just personally for me and I think from the entire board, I just really want to thank everybody in social services. The attention to detail does not go unnoticed. And so Daniel, I just want to thank you for everything that your employees are doing. So thank you.
Okay, that takes us to A15.
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Chair Labadino, members of the board. Administrative item number 15 is from the County Executive Office. It is to consider recommendations regarding fiscal year 2019 public safety power shutoff PSPS resilience allocation and there's a fourth this vote required on this item.
Supervisor Hartman? Thank you. I had seen in the newspapers that the governor was going to allocate money for these power shutoffs and that we have $467,300. And so I just wonder if you could CEO Miyasato talk about the process going forward because this has been very new to all of us and a huge concern to many of our residents?
Supervisors to the chair, I'll give the short answer and we have our OEM director here at Kelly Hubbard who can talk a little bit more about it. But in short, the agreement requires us to do some outreach and work with all the cities in our operational areas so we intend to do that. And then we will come back with a list that's eligible given the guidelines we've been given for your board's approval either before the budget or with the April workshops.
The only thing I'd add is that the cities had a separate application process and I believe all of our cities did apply for a separate application process to receive grant funding, and they should be hearing back. They estimated by early January Office of Emergency Services would be notifying so they will also have that opportunity and then we'll collaborate with our cities and other local government partners.
Great thank you very much. Aimee 17 from the public?
Chair Lavinino, members of the board. Administrative item number 17 is from FIRE. It is to consider recommendations regarding fire department equipment donation acceptance of non-cash donation greater than $10,000 and there's a fourth this vote required on this item as well and we have one request to speak in that Susan Petrovich. Susan?
Good morning Mr. Chair, members of the board. It's an honor to be here today. My name is Susan Petrovich, I'm the president of the Santa Barbara Firefighters Alliance. The alliance essentially was formed to provide to our fire departments and our individual firefighters equipment that wasn't otherwise included in the budget One of our major acquisitions initially was the Painted Cave Fire, when luckily we had gotten some night vision goggles for our firefighters. And that allowed the pilots in the planes that were fighting the fire to fly at night. They had no goggles otherwise they would be flying blind which of course is, for those who recall that fire, The winds kept changing, it was terrifying because the firefighters didn't know where it was going to go next and neither did the residents.
And boy when you see a fire come down the hill and actually jump over Highway 101 and head up Modoc Road taking out condos and apartments and headed for Hope Ranch, you can believe it was serious business so having those pilots able to fly at night was a big deal Just for a small piece of equipment that otherwise wasn't available. So we continued to look for new technology to help the firefighters at their request, we allowed the firefighters come to us and tell us what they wanted.
We got hot sticks for the firefighters who go into a smoky building. It's a stick that detects electricity, so they wouldn't walk into a live wire or touch a live wire. We got them drones when they needed it for the wild land fires. Then we have provided computers and fire curtains. Fire curtains allow them to shelter in place in their engines The fire overwhelming them out in the Outback. All engines now have the computers and the fire curtains.
We also provided two ocean rescue packages, essentially with all of the equipment needed for ocean rescue both to the city and the county firefighters. And finally, well not so finally, we have provided first Riley the yellow lab rescue dog who did a lot of work during the debris flow. And then Riley the black lab, the incendiary detection Riley, and then the new Waffles rescue dog.
We don't actually provide the dog but we cannot, the county and city cannot get any kind of dog from this training facility if there is not state-of-the-art equipment protecting them. They have to have a special truck, they have to have one that stays with air conditioning on even after you turn off the engine. They have to have all sorts of special equipment or they won't allow us to have the dog and they donate the dog.
And then, of course, we had a big acquisition with the mobile command unit, the trailer that can go out to the scene of the emergency, usually a fire, and the truck for hauling that trailer. This wasn't equipment, but we felt it fell within our purview. And that is the at ease program that provides totally confidential counseling to any firefighter and their family that needs help. They're under a lot of stress. The debris flow was a horrible experience for all of them and the fires are just more stress.
So we provided this counseling program because that way it doesn't go in their jacket. Nobody knows that they've sought any help. And then to supplement that, we've supported the peer support process within the fire departments. And now we are supporting a peer support dog that will go out to the fires and the emergency venues and help the firefighters just to deal with the stress on the job.
That's what we're here for, is to provide what these firefighters can't get otherwise in their budgets. I know you all try to give everything you can to the firefighters but there's always something new that comes up that isn't already available through the budget so We have a new website, we welcome donations large and small serving this community for as long as you will have us and we wanted this equipment that we're offering today is just one package that we Donated Thank
You supervisor William.
Thank you
Well, I just wanted to tell you many of those past donations that you've cited are enormously well used by by our personnel and That I'm sure I speak for the whole board just saying to your board that we thank you and really respect the work that you're doing. To help our firefighters team up with the budgets we allocate, to make things better and to make residents safer. And these tactical helmets, these backpacks, these wild land kits will help You know, us and our firefighters do a better job. So thank you.
Thank you
very much Susan. Thank you. We want to keep them safe just as they keep us safe.
Absolutely. Great work. Thank you. Item A19.
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Chair Lavinino, members of the board. Administrative item number 19 is from the General Services Department It is to consider recommendations regarding lease agreements with service providers for behavioral wellness adult crisis residential mental health services and this is in the second and fifth districts
Supervisor Williams just you know I don't know if general services wants to say something or be well wants to say something But I just thought it was Because it's been in the ether, a lot of talk about expanding our continuum of care. And here are two agreements for crisis residential services that expand that as part of the recent, as in the last three years.
Or so, expansion of crisis residential beds that I think when I asked B-Well what the total amount in the last three years has been about 27 beds added. And so I just thought this was a good opportunity to highlight it and say we will continue to try to expand our continuum of care and our behavioral wellness mental health services.
Very good, thank you. Seeing none, we will go to item A30. You want to read that in?
Chair Lavanino and members of the board, administrative item number 30 is from Supervisor Williams. It is to consider recommendations regarding a resolution of concern regarding the current climate emergency and we have 16 requests to speak on this item.
OK. Because of the large volume of speakers we're going to have two minutes per speaker that will give us a half hour of public comment on this agenda item so Supervisor Williams I don't know if you want to lead it off or you just want to go right into public comment?
I'm
happy to
just briefly lead it off. I think we've talked about climate change as an existential threat to our county to our society, to our world before. I just think that there is really further evidence that ties our immediate self-interest as a people to making headway on this work. There's both research cited on the recent Washington Post article and research that's been highlighted at some fire forums that we have And our department has participated in from researchers out at UCSB that indicate we and the, our county and the County of Ventura are warming at a much faster rate than the rest of the lower 48 states.
And that has tremendous ramifications for fire. Sundowner winds are correlated with This increase in temperature, as is a reduction of fuel moisture. And so we are facing an increase in the number of wildfires. We are facing a increase in the amount of sundowner winds and those are correlated with this temperature rise. And so I think we need to face the climate crisis as a public safety crisis.
And we need to face the climate crisis as something that we can do something about. I personally think if it was just a resolution and not backed up by action, that would be wholly insufficient. Intention is not enough to change the world. There is no substitute for action. But this board is serious about action and this resolution just highlights that work that we continue to do. Okay, let's go to our-
Supervisor Hartman and Supervisor Adam.
I just wanted to note that I had included in the record the December 6, 2019 article that appeared in The Washington Post. I actually see the author out in the audience today but I think this is quite sobering because it looks at this isn't just a global phenomenon and how it is affecting our county in particular so I'll have more to say at the end.
Oh I will too because I have a little question
on the article Supervisor Adam I don't want to be argumentative. I just want to put in the reservation of rights that there's a whole bunch of people who disagree with this and I think that If we if we get too hyperbolic on this stuff, we run the risk of having General nihilism built into our youth particularly I get very concerned for our youth. I think it's You can't live with a steady diet of hopelessness and come out of it without some damage. I think our society needs to build in hope, and through arguendo, it's actually happening.
The technology will save us. There's technology that's been improved over the years and we're just learning at a faster rate as time goes on. And I think that one of the things we can never stop, never say enough is it's never been a better time to be a human on this planet than now. There's generally healthier people, there's generally wealthier people all over the planet I think that's something that just doesn't get enough air time and it's better to live, to quote Mr. Armandiris, I'm sure a phrase we're going to be hearing in the next few minutes is the morality of prosperity and I subscribe to that entirely.
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Can we get to public comment?
Sure, I was just going to agree. I mean, I do think that there is a necessity to frame this around what we can and should do and the hope for a better future. And I think that's a criticism I will take. That it will be the combination of technology and political will That can save us. So I will take that, that we should always be framing this in terms of what people can do to solve the problem.
Okay, public comment? Two minutes each, 16 speakers.
Chair Levine and members of the board, we are going to begin in Santa Maria with Joe Armaderez to be followed by Andy Caldwell.
And Joe, before you start since sometimes what happens is people continue to add speaker slips as we go through. We're going to go ahead and close whoever's speaker slip is in at this point on this item, you're in. And when Mr. Armendariz gets done speaking if you don't have a slip in then you'll have to wait and speak it another time. Go ahead Mr. Armandariz Joe, we can't hear you. I think you have a button pushed or something there.
There we go. Can you hear me now? Yep. But now you're down to one minute. No, I'm just kidding. Go ahead.
All right. Joe Armendariz representing Taxpayers Association. I don't know if anybody saw the sunrise from Orkut this morning. I think that Mother Nature gives us sunrises as a cure for terminal pessimism and I think I want to follow up a little bit on what Supervisor Lavinino, oh sorry, Supervisor Adam was suggesting, and that is it's not going to be a resolution that saves us. It's going to be revolution of technology and innovation. About 50 years ago mechanical engineers and computer scientists looked at this holy grail called quantum computing. As recently as a year ago Computer scientists said that we were about 10 to 15 years away from quantum computing. In other words, the science was settled.
This year Google created a quantum computer that is able to compute at a rate of speed that would just amaze you. The largest supercomputer in the world was designed by IBM, it's called the Summit. It takes up physical space About the size of a football field. The Google quantum computer takes up the space of a refrigerator. The Google computer can solve the most complex problem in 200 seconds, the summit computer would have taken 10,000 years. So I would submit to you Supervisor Williams who I know your well intended.
I hope you don't bring your work home with you, because what I tell my kids each and every day is there's never been a better time to be alive. The future has never been brighter. I don't think we're so much concerned about March 2030 as maybe we might be concerned about March 2020. I don't want you to be cynical. I want you to be enthusiastic, optimistic and Look to the future as a place that is going to just transform everything. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Andy Caldwell in Santa Maria, and then we're going to return to Santa Barbara for Robert Perry. Andy?
Chair Labadino, members of the board. I'm actually embarrassed for this board that they do not understand the difference between climate and weather. You don't measure weather or climate in a number of years or even decades but in terms of centuries and millennium. And the fact that's lost on you is quite frankly embarrassing. I believe that what you are doing today is just more cheap talk virtue signaling in an echo chamber.
In times past, I've asked you about the all stick approach with the private sector and the all carrot approach with regard to your own staff. And your own emissions that you are directly responsible for. That is for instance commuting is the largest source of greenhouse gas emissions. The Chumash require their employees to all ride the bus. You have not done that. The other thing is if this really was an existential crisis and we only had ten years to save the planet.
I think you'd be in panic mode. You wouldn't be buying any more diesel or gas-fired vehicles, including those that work at the landfill, other heavy equipment. You wouldn't be buying them. You wouldn't buy tires that could last that long on that equipment because they're all based on fossil fuels. You would force your commuters to work. Secondly, you would ask your public works department what can we be using instead of asphalt?
What could we be using instead of concrete? Because these are greenhouse and gas intensive products. You're not in desperation mode, you're not in existential crisis mode, you're in political pandering virtue signaling mode. That's what you've only been in since day one. The bottom line here is the real existential threats that you have a capacity to deal with are pension liabilities, infrastructure deficit and socialism. Thank you.
Chair Lavinino, members of the board we're going to return to Santa Barbara with Robert Perry to be followed by Emiliano Campobello.
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Chairman Lovino and Supervisors of the Board, a climate emergency requires mobilization. And I firmly believe that everyone in this room believes that technology should be utilized to its fullest capacity to help solve climate change. Renewable energy is technology. As the two founding members of the Climate Mobilization Santa Barbara County, or TCMSBC, we would like to express our gratitude to the Board for recognizing the emergency status of climate change and to Supervisor Williams for basing the draft resolution for approval on language submitted by TCMSBC.
TCS TCM SBC was organized last year to advance the mission of the climate mobilization to initiate a World War II scale mobilization to reverse global warming. As part of this effort, we submitted our proposed Climate Emergency Resolution in December 2018 and have actively advocated For a declaration of climate emergency. To date, 1,246 governments across the globe have declared a climate emergency and in California 22 cities and five counties totaling approximately 10.5 million residents have already declared a climate emergency. Now Santa Barbara County must join them.
The impacts from climate change are happening now and each successive study and report is finding the acceleration and tipping up points beyond that of previous studies. Clearly, time is not on our side and Santa Barbara County is not immune from the consequences. On December 5th, The Washington Post published an analysis of 123 years of temperature data showing that rise in temperature for our area to be double that of the continental United States.
How can Santa Barbara best respond to a climate emergency? The Climate Mobilization Strategy can best be described in three words, ban, plan, and expand. Ban, phase out fossil fuel infrastructure. Stop burning fossil fuels and divest from climate changing industries. Plan, democratize the climate emergency response and expand- Sir? I'm sorry.
Yes. Your two minutes is up. Okay. I'm sorry.
Our next speaker is Emiliano Campobello to be followed by Tom Becker. Emiliano?
Thank you Chairman Lovino, council members. Just honoring the Chumash on whose land we live and who cared for this land for thousands of years and lived in harmony with it I have white sage for each of you. From and for Mother Earth. Now I'm going to go kind of off script here, I just came back from the Amazon Rainforest. Spent a couple weeks there with indigenous tribes talking with them seeing and hearing about how the consequence of our convenience and depends on fossil fuel lifestyle is resulting in death and suffering of human, plant and animal species there.
So this is where we are enjoying the convenience but exporting the risk. Yes technology can do a lot but if it's not guided by heart and compassion we can see where it's going. No one likes a resolution that's empty. So we do feel that there are important steps that we need to follow up with, including the establishment of a countywide just transition and climate Emergency mobilization effort, optimal utilization of available physical and economic resources.
By early 2020 organization of an all staff meeting to educate staff on the latest climate science and emergency mobilization needs. A directive to county Department of Planning to report back on opportunities to reduce emissions. And the inclusion of support for a Green New Deal in its 2021 legislative program. And we've taken a lot of proactive steps, but we can do more. And I believe that from the bottom up and from the top down, we know that we are willing to do this and we're able to do this together.
I believe that we need to think more not in just the now, just a second, but also of our children- Sorry, that's not how it goes. So even the
children- I'm sorry. Okay so here's how we're going to do this. So if you agree with somebody, go like that and it's out of respect for all the other speakers don't please I hate cutting people off but it's out of respect to everybody you have two minutes please try to get your comments in that time thank you
our next speaker is Tom Becker to be followed by John Kelly
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Thank you, yes and I will respect your rules unlike some of these people in this room like the last speaker. Okay so here's what goes on. I'm going to go back to MTD they've just now announced that they're using renewable diesel which is from biomass It's got the carbon footprint one-third that of their electric buses that plug into the grid. That's MTD saying that, but why did MTD do this? I don't know maybe they they got compelled to do it But remember MTD had an electric bus program and they killed renewable diesel 20 years ago And the reason why they went with electric buses is because the management of MTD Had an investment in an electric bus component manufacturing business.
And they rigged the bid so you'd have to buy their products. That's pretty much how the entire environmental movement is. They're not really interested in protecting the environment. These people are heavily involved. A lot of these people are either heavily invested in things like solar panel companies, electric car companies and crap like that or their friends or family are just like MTD wanted electric car or electric buses because the management was invested in a company that made electric bus components these people are pushing Their alternative while attempting to destroy other alternatives that they're not invested in.
That's the point. Renewable diesel, alcohol fuel has been around that process that MTD is using the fuel that was developed by in Germany in 1925 it's been around Joe it's been around for a long time we don't need supercomputers but these people back here they're invested or they know people or their friends are invested and they're pushing one technology over another in a fraudulent manner thank you
Our next speaker is John Kelly to be followed by Stan Roden. John?
Good morning, as she said my name's John Kelly I'm group leader of the Santa Barbara chapter of the Citizens Climate Lobby CCL is a national nonpartisan grassroots volunteer organization We advocate for a national carbon fee and dividend policy to use the economy to reduce emissions and accelerate the transition to clean energy. So it was founded in 2007. Now we have more than 170,000 supporters and chapters across the country.
So I'm also here to represent the right of my eight year old grandson and his generation to inherit a livable world. So I want to make three quick points in support of the climate resolution point number one The Yale Climate Opinion Study reports that a large majority of Americans support action on climate policy. For example, in our congressional district 58% want local officials like you to do more to address climate change.
And 65% want Congress to do more to address climate change. Point number two, what about business? The business community is also calling for action on climate policy. For example the U.S. Chamber of Commerce says The climate is changing and humans are contributing to these changes. We believe there is much common ground on which all sides of this discussion could come together To address climate change with policies that are practical, flexible, predictable and durable.
So point number three, I agree with the US Chamber of Commerce. They say inaction is not an option. Today you have the opportunity to give our community a voice to voice their concerns about climate. I urge all of you to support this resolution. Thank you very much.
Our next speaker is Stan Roden to be followed by Sandra Grasso-Boyd. Stan?
Did you call John Cooley?
John Kelly, yes.
Okay, my name's not on there. Cooley, C-O-I-E?
I have not called that name yet.
Okay.
Stan Roden. Thank you. To be followed by Sandra Grasso Boyd.
Mr Chairman, members of the board. Thank you to Supervisor Williams for putting forth this important resolution. Words do matter because words lead to action, so I endorse the idea that intent alone isn't enough. I've lived in Montecito for 46 of my 52 years in Santa Barbara and I saw the drought in real time, many droughts. I saw the last seven or eight of the largest fires in Santa Barbara history in the last 12 years or so.
And unfortunately I saw the mountain come down on January 9, 2018. So I'm here for not me because I won't see 2035 probably or what can we expect by 2050 or 2075 or the turn of the century but I can guarantee you that five out of my seven grandchildren will They will be here. They will see what the science, the overwhelming opinion of science says is coming over the next series of decades and it is our obligation, our sworn moral duty to do something about it so words count please pass this resolution and two look for other action items that you can take both here at home and elsewhere Such as the carbon tax and dividend that John Kelly just talked about. Judges used to tell me I couldn't say good morning in less than five minutes, but I'm finished.
Thank you. Our next speaker is Sandra Grasso-Boyd to be followed by Dr. Lee Heller.
Good morning, Chairman Lavendale and Supervisors. I'm Sandy Grasso-Boyd from the League of Women Voters and we all encourage the passing of the resolution of concern regarding the current climate emergency. Like Stan Roden, the previous person that we are concerned about our youth The League, 67 local leagues assembled in 2019 to adopt a resolution to declare a climate emergency and make it a priority of emphasis. Our league has been participating in climate rallies recently the one on La Vista where we heard our supervisor Joan Hartman speak In contrast to the tirade that Andy Caldwell just gave, we support the county's work on energy efficiency and sustainability, the community choice aggregation, voting to electrify our county fleet of vehicles and adopting the county's first ever adaptive strategic energy plan.
We look forward to more work on green infrastructure, community microgrids and a move away from natural gas to all electric in buildings and transportation addressing the sea level rise and the need for new zoning restrictions healthy soils. We recognize that youth will be the hardest hit Yet, youth do not have a vote at this time of crisis. Without urgent action on climate we're risking the future of ourselves and our children and we stand with the youth in the fight for decisive action. On April 15th our league will be hosting a Climate Emergency Community Forum in partnership with youth at the public library and we hope you will join us. Please do adopt your resolution.
Thank you.
Our next speaker is Dr. Lee Heller to be followed by Kathy King.
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Cheryl Avenino, members of the board. As the Washington Post article confirms, climate change is here with a vengeance. And in my lifetime I was told it wouldn't be. Person after person would express skepticism about my move to New Zealand on that basis. But it underlies my return as it became clear that New Zealand is far less prepared for the new climate reality even than Santa Barbara and we are nowhere near prepared enough even here at the birthplace of the modern environmental movement.
We need to do more now. Our own county has failed not just to meet greenhouse gas reduction targets, but to prevent a spike in emissions. We need to do much, much better. How local government reacts is essential not just to responding reactively, but to preparing proactively and positively rather than nihilistically. Bloomberg Philanthropies has just released a report about how state and local governments can have a substantial impact on climate change The report titled Accelerating America's Pledge finds that policies already in place by state, local and business actors can reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 25% by 2030. I quote from CNN this morning, if state and local governments along with the private sector further enhance their climate commitments overall US emissions could fall even further by 37% by 2030.
But the report shows that executive and legislative action will be required. The answer to nihilism, Supervisor Adam is not denialism it is action. I urge the board to declare a climate emergency and to direct energy and resources to doing more to reduce our own contributions to climate change as well as preparing for the changes that are here and will continue to come and come and come.
Thank you Supervisor Williams for introducing this resolution. Thank you to the board for your attention and consideration.
Our next speaker is Kathy King to be followed by Tara Messing.
Good morning Mr. Chair and members of the board I'm Kathy King from the Community Environmental Council as we have all acknowledged last week's Washington Post article showcased that California in general and Santa Barbara County in particular are ground zero for rapidly evolving climate impacts. We are in the crosshairs for multiple threats including sea level rise Extended drought, extreme heat, increased wildfire and more intense storms that bring the potential of debris flow and mudslides. The climate crisis is no longer theoretical, no longer far off in the future for someone else to worry about. It is happening now on our watch. By naming what we are experiencing as an emergency, we are signaling that it requires immediate focused attention and that the climate crisis needs to be the foundation of every decision we make as a community.
As an agricultural county, we need to be focused on minimizing the impacts of drought, smoke and extreme heat on crops and people. We have 40,000 outdoor workers in Santa Barbara County who are on the front lines of these impacts. As an oceanfront county, we need to ensure that the ocean is healthy and our fishing industry is strong. As a tourist destination, we need to take immediate steps to ensure that our beaches, mountains and wine country are safe desirable places to visit. The Community Environmental Council has been working specifically on climate protection for over a decade, pushing for a rapid transition to clean renewable energy. Protecting the climate isn't some environmentalist luxury or issue du jour. A stable livable climate is one of the most fundamental things we need as humans to survive.
Thank you Supervisor Williams for naming this what it is, a climate emergency.
Our next speaker is Tara Messing to be followed by Linda Kropp.
Good morning, Mr. Chair and members of the board. My name is Tara Messing and I'm a staff attorney with the Environmental Defense Center. We applaud the board's efforts today to adopt a resolution of concern regarding the current climate emergency. Thank you for acting with urgency and bold leadership to confront the climate crisis not just today but also recently with community choice energy, the county strategic energy plan, and the recent decision to electrify the county's fleet.
This resolution will serve to catalyze the transformation of our economy and the community for the better. However, our county is currently facing a climate emergency that cannot be ignored. Three oil and gas operators are proposing a massive expansion of the Cat Canyon Oil Field. Our community has spoken with a unified and resounding voice in opposition to these projects and the tripling of onshore oil production that could result if these projects are approved.
Approval of any of these projects will severely exacerbate climate change. These projects rely on dirty and risky oil development known as steaming, which employs a high energy intensive method of oil extraction that will significantly contribute to global climate change. The county must stay focused on achieving its GHG emission reduction goals under its energy and climate action plan.
Moreover, parts of the Cat Canyon oil field are already ranked among the top 1% for groundwater threats, heightening concerns about the degradation of groundwater if these projects are approved. For example, the communities of Syscoac and Los Alamos rely entirely on groundwater for drinking. We must not turn a blind eye to these communities which will be disproportionately affected by the dirty oil production.
The board's resolution of concern signals a commitment by the county to promote a clean renewable energy future coupled with what we hope will be a phasing out of fossil fuels. Thank you for taking this step and we are excited to see what forward looking actions the county will turn to next. Thank you. Our next speaker is Linda Kropp
to be followed by Katie Davis.
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Good morning. I'm Linda Kropp, Chief Counsel of the Environmental Defense Center. Thank you for considering this important resolution. This resolution is not about what has happened in the past that has led to this dire crisis. It is not about the present at which time we are experiencing the devastating consequences of human caused climate change. Instead, this resolution is about the future as it will guide the county's actions in a manner that will help avert Further harm and protect our climate, our air quality, our health, our environment and our economy.
You have heard about the proposals to triple onshore oil production in the county and the significant impacts that would have In the coming year, you will also consider ExxonMobil's plans to restart its three platforms offshore Gaviota and produce 30,000 barrels of oil per day. This proposal will also exacerbate our county's contribution to climate change. It will be at times like these that this resolution must be forefront in your minds as you take action when it comes to climate change There is no room for error.
Every action will matter, thank you.
Our next speaker is Katie Davis to be followed by John Coey
Hello, Katie Davis, Chair of the Los Padres Chapter of the Sierra Club covering Santa Barbara and Ventura counties. I want to support this resolution acknowledging the climate emergency and joining the 1,216 jurisdictions in local governments covering 798 million citizens globally that have done so recently. The Oxford Dictionary actually chose climate emergency as their word of the year for 2019.
Because heightened, and this is their quote, heightened public awareness of climate science and the myriad implications for communities around the world has generated enormous discussion of what the UN Secretary General has called the defining issue of our time. For example, they give a recent article published in the journal Bioscience and signed by 11,000 scientists from 153 countries argued that scientists have a moral obligation to clearly warn humanity of any catastrophic threat and presented their research to declare clearly and unequivocally that planet Earth is facing a climate emergency.
So this resolution acknowledges this global consensus, and from that acknowledgement comes action. And I want to commend all the county is doing on energy, solar ordinance, fleet electrification, major renewable energy projects such as the Santa Maria County Building Project, an EV charging infrastructure, the Climate Action Plan updates, the bioglass plant, battery storage projects, the Straus Wind Project et cetera. This goes to show that shifting resources to the transition away from fossil fuels and new infrastructure is happening. It is doable, and it will create a net addition of jobs, a stronger forward-looking economy, improved county health, and well being.
Moving forward we can and must be part of the solution to the climate emergency not the problem. Thank you.
Our next speaker is John Coey to be followed by Carolyn Coey.
I hope I'm the right person now. Okay, my name is John Cooey for 35 years. I was a behavioral scientist at Duke University. I've lived here for the last 19 years. I want to say this about the National Academy of Science because I think this matter of climate emergency is not a political issue even though it seems to be a liberal versus conservative kind of perspective. It's a science matter Al Gore actually got me to read the report of the National Academy of Science. I did not have an enormous respect for Al Gore, for reasons I won't even get into but I did know and I do know members of the National Academy of Science because of the things that I did in my career and for the National Institute of Mental Health where I was a career scientist and a reviewer of grant applications The people on the National Academy of Science are the most bright and thoughtful people I have ever known.
They do not take positions for political matters. The National Academy of Science report says one thing in particular that you should know, That is, in reviewing all the research on carbon dioxide emissions. They agree that carbon dioxide emissions make a statistically significant impact on the destructiveness of our natural resources. The petroleum industry itself knows this because they've done their own studies. Studies which they've suppressed and much the same way that the tobacco industry suppressed their own research on smoking and cancer.
So let's cut the crap about this being a matter of opinion and a matter of hopefulness or pessimism. It's a matter of the reality that we are facing. I'm 82, I don't have very many years left. I'm willing to face that fact, that there's not much I can do about it. But our planet really does not have much more time than I do and there are things we can do about it but they have to be thoughtful things. They can't be things that are just done on a matter of a whim or a matter of financial advantage so some of the criticisms that Supervisor Adams has made, I agree with it.
Our next speaker is Carolyn Cooey to be followed by Jean Northsinger
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Let's see if let's see if this even okay it's great! Hi hi I'm Lynn Cooey. I'm here today with members of the Fearless Grandmothers We are committed to protecting our planet and our grandchildren. We are going to do whatever we can do as grandmothers and women of a certain age, to protect our planet and our grandchildren. I was really struck Mr. Adams by what you said because there is hope.
There is tremendous hope. We just have to do it together You've heard what's going to happen to our planet. And 11,000 scientists in 143 countries, I'm not going to read all of this, just said that the heat will be killer heat. It will be killing children and elderly like myself first because we don't have temperature regulating mechanisms. Please believe this.
I see you're smiling but it's we have to act There's a very frightening picture ahead. There will be increased heat, droughts, wildfires. Our crops will fail and there will be massive migration. And the good thing is that we can do something about it. You may think that the budget implications of climate change are too politically risky. The reality is that the cost of climate changes are already having a disastrous impact on our budgets.
Fires, droughts, sea level crop failures, climate migrations, you know what the costs are. You, our county commissioners, every one of you are in an fantastic unique position. You can lead our county and our county is the hottest. You can make a difference. If you don't, your grandchildren are going to ask you why? Why didn't you do something when you knew? I
don't want to interrupt a grandmother but you're over your time. I'm sorry.
Okay please adopt
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Our next speaker is Jean Northsinger to be followed by Jeff Reese who is our final speaker.
Thank you, Board of Supervisors for hearing this important issue. I'm here in support because I agree with this resolution and I agree with some of the speakers who have gone before who said This needs to be followed by bold action. I'd like to say in connection with the idea that our youth are feeling hopeless about this, if you had been out at Isla Vista to hear the youth speak about this they're very hopeful, energetic and they have a lot of solution oriented ideas as Supervisor Hartman can testify because she was there and heard them also. And I'd like to thank those of you who highlighted that Washington Post article That says Santa Barbara County and Ventura County are the most highly impacted right now. And probably going into the future, because that was news that just came out on Friday.
In addition to the many numerous things that are in this resolution, that is an important thing to add. I'd also like to say this second speaker from Santa Maria had a lot of really good ideas about places that we can begin to address this even though he was saying He was opposed to the idea. He had a good starting list for things that we can begin to address, to make the kind of change we have to make.
And for a speaker who spoke here earlier, I'd like to say I'm not invested financially in any of the renewables. But I wish I were because that's one of the fastest growing parts of our economy. What I'm invested in is the future of my grandchildren and hopefully they'll be around long enough to give me great-grandchildren. Thank you.
Thank you.
And our final speaker is Jeff Reese.
Hello Supervisors, thank you for this opportunity. My name is Jeff Reese. I'm a member of the Citizens Climate Lobby as well as the Climate Reality Project and I'd like to address Supervisor Adams' first comment about let's build in hope And that's what I'm here to talk about is the hope that solving the environmental crisis will bring to the youth and to all of us.
This resolution is a great first step, and words As our associates have stated, are the beginning of something. There's currently a House Resolution 763 supported by Salud Carbajal. Our assemblyman here is called the Energy Innovation and Dividend Act that would take this resolution to the next step. And the next step will be to create I'm In my environmental studies class, I heard about a concept called environmental economics.
And I've been looking for something that would bring about the incentive for business to solve the environmental problems associated with the climate crisis and if you'll take the next step After adopting this resolution and look at HR 763, you'll see that there are tremendous opportunities to give our children, grandchildren hope for solving the environmental crisis and create green jobs. This is just the first step and go beyond. Thank you very much.
Okay do we have any other public comment?
That was our final speaker.
Okay I'll go to Supervisor Hartman
Thank you. I am grateful to my colleague, Supervisor Williams for bringing this forward. There are a couple of things that I want to note. This is a matter of science not politics. You think of the greenhouse gases like a blanket surrounding our planet At pre-industrial levels, it was 280 parts per million. People thought 350 parts per million would be about what we could handle. We are now at 410 parts per million. That is an empirical fact.
The temperatures, people thought we want to stay between 1.5 and 2 degrees Celsius. We now see that Santa Barbara County is 2.3 degrees Celsius. The globe isn't warming uniformly. We're feeling it differentially here in Ventura County. That's over 4 degrees Fahrenheit. A recent article came out about the scientific consensus looking at 11,000 plus peer-reviewed articles. There is a 100% scientific consensus around this that it's real and it's serious. It's urgent.
I'd like to talk about the relative contributions to this blanket that's surrounding the planet 32% of the greenhouse gases come from the United States. That's two times any, the nearest, the next nearest country so we have an obligation yes China is now today Contributing more, but who is China producing for? Who is buying those goods? So we have a historic responsibility and a current responsibility to address this. We have indeed at this level the county has endorsed. We are still in the Paris Climate Agreement. We have passed a resolution supporting the Green New Deal. We have sent letters to Washington and we have done a great deal here on our county. Just last week, we went to the Monterey Bay Clean Power. By 2021 our electricity will be all electric here.
The county is doing tremendous amount with its own campus and its own efforts and we're trying to promote commercial renewables as well. So we are... We have a lot of the foundations in place but the sense of urgency, the sense of focus, the sense that every single Act we take collectively as a county and individually, and at the voting booth have to take climate change into account. The worst thing, the most depressing thing is to deny and be helpless. The most energizing thing is to join with people and say, we can make a difference.
As a graduate student, I did some studies about how energy systems shape political and economic systems. We have a system that is controlled by petrochemical industry. It controls our geopolitics. It controls everything about our economy and how we design our communities. We have an opportunity for distributed energy and distributed power. And I think that is something that's hugely exciting, and a great opportunity moving forward. Thank you.
Supervisor Hart? Yeah, I also want to thank my colleague Supervisor Williams for bringing us here today to talk about this. And I am struck by what is actually going on. The point here that we're passing a resolution, we're drawing awareness to the subject group, we're focusing folks attention really is just an opportunity to focus on what we're actually doing. And the Washington Post article was really helpful in I think drawing a precise connection to our local temperatures and the impacts of those. There were a lot of things that were wrong technically in that article, but that's understandable because folks writing from Washington don't always get the precise details right.
And we are doing a lot to address that. We could spend literally an hour or two to talk about all the very specific things that the County of Santa Barbara and the State of California are doing in concrete ways to address this issue, and we're not done. Concrete measures that will deliver results. We're not to where we want to be, that was the point of the article and I think that is a challenge to us as decision makers. That's a challenge to us as a community but I'm confident that we are on the right path. The state of California is an incredible partner on this effort and is doing great work at the state level too. And we have a lot of work to do at the national level, I appreciate the advocates here speaking about the National Carbon Fee and Dividend Program.
That is an extraordinarily powerful tool that we do not have use of at this time in the federal government. Needs to get in the business of making those kind of changes at the federal level, to leverage what state and local governments are doing. I'm really optimistic to focus back on that beginning point that was in debate because we do have a lot of really talented technical and committed organizers who are working on this issue or delivering results. And you have my commitment, I know you have the commitment of the board majority here to make sure that we stay on track with this effort.
Supervisor
Williams? A better world, that's one of the sometimes the prerequisite to want to have children. I have two, I have a 16 month old and definitely want to report that she believes the world is amazing and it's getting more amazing. No doubt my 16 month old believes that. But for us to make that possible for her will take technological change. And it will take political will, and that's what we have to show. I think in this county we have to say we are Santa Barbara County. We are the birthplace of environmentalism It should be unacceptable to us that we have a low level of renewable production in this county.
Even compared to other counties in the state, that should be totally unacceptable to us. We have to do our part and it does take political will Sometimes it takes the political will to spend money on renewable energy, on long term infrastructure for our facilities. Sometimes it takes also removing some barriers because the reason why there's been so few renewables in this county is our own county ordinances had barriers that we are now removing.
And then it will also take social change. That's why I want to give a shout out to the climate mobilization. The groups that have participated in this, they really have the right spirit in this and to hearken back and use the idea of a World War II level mobilization I've seen some calculations even in the Economist magazine that indicate it would actually take much less than a World War II level mobilization of GDP to solve the climate crisis. And so, that should give us optimism that if we as people can drive less, make our transportation choices lower carbon, I'm not a purist, I don't think people should stop going on vacations.
They might just make their vacations longer and less often if they want to reduce their airplane travel. In this county and in California, the largest problem, persistent problem Is vehicle miles traveled. So I want to particularly just highlight if part of this is social mobilization, a climate mobilization both to change the politics and to change the society that the most important thing we can do is live closer to our jobs, drive less and make when we do drive or when we do use transportation a lower carbon alternative. And I pledge to do that. I pledge to fight for that, and I pledge to try to make the conditions by which more of our employees can do that. Thank you. All
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right, seeing no other lights, so last time we had a resolution and I really can't remember what it was but it was on one of these controversial subjects. I abstained and I received hundreds of emails why did I abstain? So I'll explain why I'm going to abstain on this one. There's difference between resolutions and action. And when we have a resolution, we have no staff report, we have no expert opinions, there's no documentation that comes with the thing outside of what the supervisor brings. So if this was a D agenda item and we talked about what we want to do in the future I would vote on it. One of the attachments was The Washington Post article And I have to say, and I heard that the author's here so I feel bad pointing this out. But it's my duty.
It does say that in 69 the UNICAL rig cracked the sea floor spilling 3 million barrels of oil, the third largest spill in US history to this day. Beach goers find tar on their feet from the still seeping oil. That's not from the 69 oil spill. Those are natural seeps, I think everybody that lives here knows that. So I didn't put a lot of faith in that. Although I do love the picture of Jefferson on the cover of The Washington Post. That was nice, he looked good.
He's a great representative of our county. So you know, I'm kind of in the middle of this whole thing. I support common sense climate action planning. I voted for the Climate Action Plan which the Independent at the time labeled the most forward thinking of our time. I have voted to support studies on sea level rise, voting to electrify our fleet. Supported the community choice energy program, the strategic energy plan, EV charging stations Energy efficiency in our county. So I'm on the part that I like, which is the action part. The part that bothers me is the hyperbole part and that I'm always going to have an issue with. For me, I feel it's always like the panic of the day. I don't like people trying to scare people into changing their habits.
Education's great but for Loses, I just lose. I unplug and I move on. I happened to watch a movie couple weeks ago that I'd never seen before and I can't believe I'd never even heard of it was Soylent Green. And it was a 1966 book, and it was a movie- It's a classic man. It's a classic man. It was awesome. My wife was trying to get me to leave the house I'm like no way I'm watching the end of this.
So Charlton Heston, the movie is made in 73 and of course if you remember in the 70s our big fear at that time was overpopulation. And they had forward thought to 2022 which is just around the corner for us. And New York City now had what was it 40 million people in it Okay, so when they filmed this there was 7.9 million people in New York but they forward thought that it's going to look like 40 million and of course we ran out of resources, fish were all dead and unfortunately I don't want to give away the story but at the end they resort to cannibalism. So yeah, spoiler alert from 50 years ago.
Every baby boomer in the audience, so it's a
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I lived in a cult. Sorry, I didn't get to it. But the reality is now 50 years later after this movie was made New York City has 8.3 million people and not the 40 million. My hope is and I heard a lot of good hope today which I really appreciate the grandmothers that are thinking about their grandkids as we all are up here. But I never see people get as energized about the good news, right? It's always the bad news. Everybody wants to talk about the bad news.
I have seen so little on, I've seen one article in the Santa Barbara Independent on the air pollution control district. How many people and this is kind of a small test, how many people think we have cleaner air now in Santa Barbara County than we ever have in the last 50 years? Yeah not many. Because you don't want to believe that. So there's another kind of climate denier now, okay? The climate denier now is the people that really think everything's horrible don't want to hear that some things are getting better.
In the history of the Air Pollution Control District this is the cleanest air we've ever had. This is Nick Welsh from the Santa Barbara Independent. This is not Fox News, okay? Air pollution control district recorded not one single federal ozone violation. To put it in context, in the 1990s we were averaging over 100 a month. There's only 14 counties in the state of California that are going to achieve ozone attainment. Santa Barbara County is going to be one of those. At the same time this has been going on that we've been achieving this cleaner air, vehicle miles traveled are up 100% and populations up 50,000.
And how did we get there? A lot of times kicking and screaming with industry that didn't want to go there. But it's a million small changes along the way that people have pushed for, we've changed the way we do things. And as long as we keep in a nice positive manner of ways that we can improve our economy. I think a lot of people are talking about that improving our economy while going green, creating jobs those types of things.
You're going to find people like me supporting those things so People try to go to scare tactics you lose a lot of the middle so just little heads up. But anyways, let's call for is there a motion to move a 30 supervisor Adams you want make the motion well I don't want to make much you know
okay. I just know that that's that's. You can hope that. I just want to say that I think all this stuff's coming See, I don't want to not go where you want to go. I want us to be as clean as we can be. I want it to be in an economically sustainable way and when you come in and say we got to just annihilate full on industries and sources of energy that everybody depends on, that doesn't make any sense to me and I don' think it makes any sense to most people.
I think we're going to get there eventually. I think the technology is going to pop up. We don't know what we don't know, that's the problem here. Ten years from now there may be a hydrogen engine that just supplants all of this stuff, all petroleum products. You know, we may heat our homes with this. We may have all of our transportation based on this. I think that's coming.
I drove a hydrogen car. At an APCD meeting that I was chairing, we had a presentation from the hydrogen guys whoever that was. And I actually stopped the meeting because at the end of his presentation because I wanted to go meet the guy and I wanted to drive his car. And so I made him come back up here and he let me drive his car around Santa Barbara for awhile which is a hydrogen powered car And it's fantastic, I love it. And I'm trying to get him to bring me one of those things to put in the tractor because I think that that's where we're going.
But you're not gonna get there overnight and you're not gonna get there by government decree. Somebody has to go invent all this stuff and create it and test it and it's gotta get better and better and it takes time and effort and frankly investment You know, somebody was bagging on the investors and you know hey look I like investors. If people are out there putting their money where their ideas are that's how we're going to get there. We're not going to get there because somebody from the Board of Supervisors said you must stop doing something.
You know, I just I don't have any faith in a government decree as much as I do in the marketplace and good ideas supplanting Less good ideas over time because that's what's happened in history So I have a tremendous amount of faith That that's what's going to happen And I think we're all gonna go to the same place and hopefully we all get there at the same time be fantastic
Okay, so is there a motion? Supervisor Williams. I'll move the resolution. Second. Moved and seconded. Roll call please.
Mr. Adam.
No.
Mr. Williams. Aye. Mr Hart.
Aye.
Ms. Hartman.
Aye
Chair Lavanino.
Abstain.
Motion passes three with three yeses one no from Supervisor Adam and one abstention from Supervisor Lavanino.
Okay, so we're gonna take a quick 10-minute break Are we going to change that? Hold on. How many public comment speakers do we have? No, no, I'm talking about real just public comment, public comment. Two? Okay. We'll hear that first and then we'll make a... We'll hear the public comment first. So call public comment.
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Chair Levinino, members of the board, we have two requests to speak on general public comment and we are going to Santa Maria first with Joe Armaderez and then we will return to Santa Barbara with Ed Kolaski. Is Joe in Santa Maria? Okay, we will return to Santa Barbara with Ed Kolaski.
Ed, come on up.
And if Joe returns we will come back to Santa Maria.
Ed Kolaski, come on up. Excuse me, we're still holding a meeting so if you want to congregate in the hall that would be helpful. Thank you. Go ahead, Mr. Klasky.
It's taken me five and a half years to remodel my house. In 2014 I submitted this drawing. Alex Peugeot ruled that the second story was located solely over the garage. It is not solely over the garage. And no one here other than Peter Adam pointed out that it's not solely over the garage. Five and a half years. Now there's been some great words said today, you had people here talking about Hong Kong and we should fight for freedom?
Well I've been fighting for freedom here. Not all the supervisors were here when I started. And I want to thank Supervisor Peter Adam and of course Greg Hart who replaced our corrupt Janet Wolf For five and a half years I couldn't talk to her. Nobody would explain to me how that's solely over the garage when it's not solely over the garage? It's pretty simple, it's not a complex drawing although the one I showed initially was an architectural drawing which was a little more complicated.
Why did it take five and a half years You know I titled this thing, This is what we fought for in World War II. So we can come down here for five and a half years and preach to a bunch of supervisors who didn't care? Who looked the other way? Now I should point out that Doss Williams and Joan Hart at least offered other ideas to try to get it passed. But Alex Peugeot wouldn't even let us show the drawings at the fifth meeting He ruled that it's solely over the garage.
And get out of here! 15 seconds, get out of here! That's it. Go appeal." Oh yeah, we appealed to the PC. They didn't know what the heck we're talking about. It's not solely over the garage. So all they knew is, yeah okay whatever they said downstairs. Then when I come up here and we got Janet Wolfe up here and she ran the meeting That's it, you're out of here.
Start all over again. Donate a little more money. And that's the way it's been with Alex Pujo. You know I was down there the other, not this meeting, the previous meeting. Somebody is talking behind me. We've been here ten times and we still don't know what they want. We had an old lady come down there and you know... It's incredible! She's trying to figure out what does Alex want?
Should I tell her he wants some money under the table? Is that the way you run a business? Five and a half years. Is that quick turnaround? You know, if you get sentenced, you have the right to appeal with some dignity. You don't have to appeal to Janet Wolfe, our corrupt supervisor. You get people to
vote- Mr. Kolaski, you're way over.
I don't understand why you supervisors could not take control and do something when you had a corrupt supervisor here. Thank you.
Chair Lavenino, members of the board, I did receive a note that Joe Armaderez has left but we did receive a late public comment slip from Tom Becker.
Okay, while Tom's coming up I'll make an announcement about agenda management. We're going to take a quick break after Mr. Becker and then we will return and take item D3 first. That'll be the only item before lunch that's our vaping, our flavored tobacco. And then we'll move on to the other items after lunch, okay?
After me, I'm sure you want to take a break. I want to talk about something that's in the news and in the courts right now. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and NHTSA as you all know or may know are attempting to revise fuel economy standards at the same time have revoked California's emission waiver. Not going to go into all of the details. I'm sure you all know it.
Currently, State of California along with some private other people have filed an appeal in the D.C. Court of Appeals over currently right now just the California Mission Waiver. Now, California believes they have a right, State of California believes it has a right to force the rest of the country to buy cars that they don't necessarily want to buy Because California wants to set this economy standard that if California gets it, pretty much the auto manufacturer would have to make every auto manufacturer make those cars.
I pointed out along with other people during the public comment period for this issue that the state of California refuses To obey the California Environmental Quality Act and environmental impact reports on transportation projects. When people ask to, as an alternative to look at reducing vehicle miles traveled in lieu of or an alternative to widening a road adding a lane or improving intersections.
The state of California refused, Caltrans refused to look at alternatives during the widening process, the EIR. And your own staff at both the San Ysidro and Olive Mill roundabouts they are doing everything they can to avoid an environmental impact report for that because they don't want to have to discuss an alternative to those roundabout projects by reducing vehicle miles traveled Because if you were able to determine that you didn't have to build those intersections.
If he could reduce vehicle miles traveled then you don't have to add that 3rd lane on that freeway and all these people that are invested in trying to build a freeway or those intersections When and get contracts the easiest thing to do is reduce vehicle miles traveled. But you people intentionally in the state of California intentionally violate sweet sequel by refusing to answer questions about alternatives to construction projects by reducing vehicle miles traveled. And that's an important issue that I like to raise today. Thank you.
Right. Okay, so I do need a motion little cleanup on items A8, 15, 17 and 19.
So moved. Second.
Moved and seconded all those in favor? Aye. Okay those passed unanimously we're going to just take a quick eight minute break be back at maybe 1120 and we'll be back for our flavored tobacco D3
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Okay, well you never want to mess with the department that can put you in jail. So we're going to move D1's going to move first it's a very quick item so can we read D1 in please?
Chair Lavagnino and members of the board departmental item number one is from the district attorney. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding contractor on payroll services and retirement waiver for the district attorney's office.
Good morning
Good morning Chair Lavinino, members of the board. The district attorney's office is requesting a retirement waiver for recently retired employee Lee Carter. Mr. Carter was assigned to our asset forfeiture caseload and we believe there is a critical need for his assistance with asset forfeiture cases. Mr. Carter retired in October of 2019 as a Senior Deputy District Attorney.
Although his retirement was anticipated sometime within the next year, and we were in the process of developing a succession plan, Mr. Carter ultimately decided to retire earlier than we had anticipated. This left us without a trained asset forfeiture attorney to handle this caseload. As an asset forfeiture specialist in California, Mr. Carter possesses unique expertise. In fact he is often times asked to and does present throughout the state for the California District Attorney's Association on asset forfeiture matters as well being consulted by multiple counties.
While asset forfeitures arise out of criminal cases, the asset forfeiture proceedings are actually civil proceedings. This requires a work knowledge of the rules of civil procedure which are not within the general expertise of people who practice exclusively criminal law such as most of our deputy district attorneys. Asset forfeitures are also unique because depending on the nature of the underlying case in the investigating agency, issues involving both California and federal law often apply. Allowing Mr. Carter to assist our office in this capacity will ensure a smooth transfer of this important function.
We would like to appoint Mr. Carter as a contractor on payroll due to the specialized nature of assignment, we anticipate a six-month transition at no more than 20 hours per week during which Mr. Carter would assist us with pending asset forfeiture cases and provide in-depth training to his replacement. Thank you.
Well I have to say of all the ones that came back for rehire Yours was the most thorough and should have answered all the possible questions. Supervisor Adam.
And I'm always the one that complains about these, and I'm not going to complain about this because it seems reasonable and measured. Do you want to make a motion? I make a motion to adopt staff recommendations. Second.
Moved and seconded. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? So for other department heads, if you have somebody you'd like to bring back take a look at this presentation and that's the way to do it. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. All right we will move now to item 3 D3.
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Chair Lavagnino and members of the board. Departmental Item number three is from Public Health. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an ordinance amending County Code Chapter 37A Licensure of Tobacco Retailers Section 37A-7A to include language to prohibit the sale of flavored tobacco products, small and inexpensive pack sizes. And prohibit the mail order delivery of tobacco products.
Good morning.
I'm Vonda Reynoso and with me is Chantal Hoover who will be doing the presentation today. Before we get started, we'd really like to acknowledge our community partners who have been really in the thick with us in looking at this issue and helping us to craft language to propose. to your board today. We'd like to begin our presentation with Chantal giving you information about why this is such a critical issue and why local ordinance is the best policy to really protect our youth and really give them great health outcomes down the line.
Good morning, Chair Lavenino and members of the board. I'm the program coordinator for the Tobacco Prevention Program. Today I am sharing information with you on the youth vaping epidemic, the impacts of flavored tobacco on initiation of tobacco use, predatory marketing and the dangers of traditional tobacco products. Tobacco use is a number one cause of preventable death in California and continues to be an urgent public health issue in our community.
Tobacco use in all forms establishes long-term addiction and poses significant health risks. The US Surgeon General has declared an e-cigarette epidemic among youth with recent national data showing skyrocketing youth use of these products. The 2019 National Youth Tobacco Survey released on December 5th by the CDC and FDA shows that 31% of high school students and 12% of middle school students were current users of some type of tobacco product.
Locally, youth use has almost doubled from 2016 to 2018. 80% of kids who ever used tobacco started with a flavored product. With declining cigarette use rates, the tobacco industry is looking for a new generation of addicts. Predatory marketing directly targets youth making these products look appealing, youth friendly, cheap, socially acceptable. Ads appear all over social media and often omit the dangerous health effects and extremely addictive nature of these products.
We recommend action now to protect the health of the county's youth and young people. So a little bit about the marketing strategies that got us in this where we are right now. Tobacco companies have significantly increased the introduction and marketing of flavored e-cigarettes and cigars as well as smokeless tobacco and hookah products. Manufacturers have created over 15,000 unique youth friendly flavored tobacco products and these include things like gummy bears, apple juice and peanut butter cup.
With their colorful and familiar packaging and sweet flavors, today's flavored tobacco products are hard to distinguish from the candy displays which they are frequently placed next to in retail outlets. As seen on screen many products mimic popular snack or candy items targeted at kids. I'm just going to point out right here, this e-juice right here is very closely mimicking a popular kid's snack.
This right here mimicking ice cream and then right here apple juice. Very similar packaging and this is very intentional. Although tobacco companies claim to be responding to adult user, tobacco users claim demand for variety. Flavored tobacco products play a key role in enticing new users particularly kids into a lifetime of addiction. This growing market for flavored tobacco products is undermining the nation's overall progress in reducing youth tobacco use.
This is predatory marketing to our young people. According to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, nearly 80% of all adult smokers begin smoking by age 18 and 90% do so before leaving their teens. So this is a very influential time in their lives and these products are being marketed at them in hopes of getting them to become lifelong addicts. Flavored products mask harsh tastes of tobacco and are easier to inhale. Flavors are also often extremely cheap and easily accessible in small pack sizes. These products include small cigars, smokeless tobacco like Dip & Chew, hookah, menthol cigarettes, and liquid nicotine solutions.
So why is it so important to also include these other tobacco products in a ban on flavors? Cigarette use is going down, but other tobacco product use remains quite high. For example, smoking hookah for 45-60 minutes is equivalent to smoking 100 cigarettes. Smokeless tobacco products cause gum disease and cancers of the mouth, throat, stomach, kidney and bladder.
Small cigars otherwise known as cigarillos are the second most common form of tobacco used by youth and contain high levels of cancer-causing chemicals. I have a few of these here if you'd like to see them. And I'll show you some more products later. These are all flavored products as well. The invention of salt-based nicotine for use in electronic smoking devices, specifically in the Juul, released an unregulated product onto the market that is twice as addictive as traditional cigarettes.
This product allows users to inhale higher concentrations of nicotine and causes rapid absorption of nicotine into the body. Juul products are the most popular electronic smoking device representing 78% of the current market share of electronic smoking devices but many other copycat devices exist. An example here This is a jewel that I'm holding up with a kid-friendly wrapper that they sell. Hundreds of these, thousands of these different types and this is how the jewel works. This is a pod flavored and it sticks into here. These are very easy to conceal. You can see it's very hard to see in my hand. And I have an example here if you'd like to see any of this please feel free. I can pass this around.
Of a school pencil case that has... It's very hard to distinguish what in here is actually a smoking product, a vaping product We've got Swisher Sweets in here, various e-pens, things like that. Things that look like credit cards that can easily be concealed as well. Some e-juices, things like that. These products right here mimic the Juul almost exactly and they're only $5 a piece.
So these products are cheap. This type of product here two for 99 cents. We've seen these for 2 for $5, things like that and I'll talk about that a little bit more as well. Chewing tobacco here, cinnamon roll flavored as well as your menthols which is a huge issue that I'll also discuss in a little bit. Oh, and this which we recently acquired as a tobacco prevention program looks like an Apple Watch but it's actually a smoking device.
You can wear it. It actually has the time on it as well but you can pop out and it turns into a refillable device here so hoodies exist all kinds of gloves different types of products that are used to conceal these products and make it easy for kids to use them in classrooms The tobacco industry claims that these products are intended to help adult smokers stop using cigarettes and switch completely to e-cigarettes. But new research shows that few adult smokers are using the product, and even fewer are using it as a way to quit.
Switching is not quitting. For every one adult smoker who switches, 81 teens will initiate use of Juul. The National Academy of Sciences reports that e-cigarette use increases the chance of youth ever using combustible tobacco products like the menthol cigarette or these chew pouches here. The National Academy, excuse me, youth that smoke cigarettes and e-cigarettes end up smoking more cigarettes rather than less. And there is insufficient evidence that e cigarettes are an efficient catalyst for cessation. No e cigarette is approved by the FDA as a cessation product or as a tobacco product.
Additionally, one teaspoon of this concentrated nicotine liquid formulation can be fatal to an infant. The liquid can also be poisonous within a matter of minutes if spilled on the skin. The graphic here was created by Stanford Medicine. A standard pack of cigarettes contains 20 cigarettes and there's 1 milligram of nicotine absorption per cigarette. So about 20 milligrams of nicotine in one whole pack of cigarettes to give you a frame of reference here.
According to Juul Labs, one Juul pod contains 41 milligrams of nicotine. This is equal to the amount of nicotine you'll find in about 40 cigarettes or two packs of cigarettes. Youth and young adults often smoke between 1-4 pods a day. Our concern is that young people are being introduced to a high amount of nicotine, developing a tolerance quickly and becoming addicted as a result.
This often leads to dual use of both e-cigarette products and traditional tobacco products such as menthol cigarettes, small cigars, and chew. Going further on to the right here in this image, this fixed pod is equal to 75 cigarettes, almost four packs, and a Sorenvagen cartridge is equal to about 4 1⁄2 packs. This is similar to this product right here that I'm holding up.
These are refillable products. So the health effects of these products. Essentially, nicotine equals brain poison and this is especially true for a developing brain. Nicotine is one of the most toxic of all poisons. It can rewire the brain particularly vulnerable in the developing years from adolescence to the mid-twenties. Nicotine changes the teen brain and affects attention learning and memory. It can worsen stressors already challenging in adolescence such as learning difficulties irritability and anxiety These products also contain ultrafine particles, heavy metals such as nickel, tin and lead, cancer-causing chemicals, flavorings such as diacetyl and others that are untested for inhalation.
Currently, it's stated up here as the vaping associated pulmonary injury. It is now called a e-cigarette or vaping product use associated lung injury. As of November 26th, the California Department of Public Health urges everyone to refrain from vaping no matter the substance or source until current investigations are complete. Since June 2019, CDPH has received reports that 173 people in California who have had a history of vaping were hospitalized for severe breathing problems and lung damage. And four people have died.
Across the US there are over 2,000 reports of lung damage associated with vaping across the nation and all of these products are unregulated by the FDA. So I'm going to talk a little bit about the importance of including mint and menthol in this type of recommendation, and this type of ordinance. Menthol creates a cooling effect, reduces the harshness of smoke, and suppresses coughing. These effects make menthol more appealing to young inexperienced smokers. Federal laws ban flavors in cigarettes but have excluded menthol, but not in any other tobacco products. So there are no flavor restrictions on any other tobacco products. Menthol products are disproportionately used by smokers who are young, female, part of a sexual minority or part of a racial or ethnic minority.
Over half of all students who smoke and vape use mint and menthol flavored products making it the number one flavored product on the market. Menthol facilitates addiction and disease. This is also a health equity issue for our community. Predatory marketing of African Americans, Hispanic Latinos and many other priority populations across decades has resulted in disproportionately high use of menthol in communities of color.
In California at 70% of African American 42% of American Indian 33% of Hispanic Latino and 30% of Asian adult cigarette smokers smoke menthol compared to 18% of white adult cigarette smokers. So we have outlined the recommended strategies that we can use to address the youth vaping epidemic, as well as curb traditional tobacco use among both youth and adults.
So firstly, so banning youth friendly flavored tobacco products. So the tobacco industry is hooking the next generation of addicts flavors, predatory marketing and extremely high nicotine concentrations are all contributing to this epidemic. Four out of five kids who have used a tobacco product start with a flavor. Number two, restricting pricing strategies. The tobacco and vape industry spends $900,000 an hour on marketing and price discounts to lure new and existing users into addiction.
Tobacco companies lower product prices through discounting schemes, cheap products, coupons, store discounts things like that to encourage consumption especially among younger populations and new smokers. Third, establishing requirements on a minimum pack and price. Tobacco products sold in small packs make smoking more affordable, accessible and appealing to youth who are extremely price sensitive.
FDA only regulates the cigarette pack size but not the pack size of any of these other products. Minimums will prevent predatory pricing of tobacco products such as $1 for two cigarillos such as what I have here which is really common in our county. And even things like $1 for five cigarillos. This is cheaper than a candy bar. This will substantially increase the cost of cheap tobacco products and make them less accessible to kids and other vulnerable populations.
Approximately 25 other jurisdictions in California have these types of minimum pack and price policies, such as Alameda, Berkeley, and LA County. Lastly, the effects on the retail environment are something that we're often asked about. It was found that of the total sales in urban corner stores only 8% of sales were tobacco only and 5% of sales were tobacco purchased in combination with food or beverage.
These results challenge prevailing assumptions that tobacco sales are associated with sales of other products in corner stores such as food and beverages. In a nationwide study convenience stores were found to profit twice as much from food service than from tobacco sales. Santa Barbara County has truly been a leader in protecting youth in the realm of tobacco.
Santa Barbara County was the first in Southern California to regulate the placement of tobacco products and paraphernalia behind the counter in 1996. We were also early adopters of strong tobacco retail licensing laws in 2001, to hold retailers accountable and discourage selling illegally to kids. This tobacco retail license law was updated in 2011 to reflect the actual costs of running this program and increase protections near schools.
I'd also like to discuss and inform you on what other cities across this county are working on in related to the youth vaping epidemic, and to address traditional flavored tobacco products. Carpinteria recently passed a moratorium on the sale of all vaping devices and is working on an ordinance to ban the sale of all flavored tobacco products. And this does include menthol and traditional tobacco products such as These pouches, a chew and cigarillos.
Santa Maria actually just passed the Tobacco Retail License Program on the 3rd of December that also bans the sale of all flavored tobacco products. This law also includes minimum pack in price size and prohibits discounting and coupon redemption similar to the law that is being proposed today. Santa Barbara and Goleta have also expressed interest in similar policies and plan to work on those in the new year.
And I'm going to turn it over back to Vaughn. Thank you.
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Should I repeat that? No. Oh, I guess so.
Okay, all right. Several failed attempts at the state level to regulate these products and inaction by the FDA leaves the safety of our youth in the hands of local jurisdictions. Local action is the best way to protect our youth from tobacco products And to prevent chronic disease and promote good health outcomes. So our recommended local action is for your board to consider amending County Code Chapter 37A, Licensure of Tobacco Retailers Section 37A-7A to read prohibit the sale of flavored tobacco products including menthol, Prohibit small, inexpensive pack sizes. Prohibit the mail order delivery of tobacco products.
Prohibits coupons that allow a consumer to purchase tobacco for less than full price. Prohibit discounted items and to update the definition of tobacco products to include electronic smoking devices. And we would recommend that the effective date For enforcement is 90 days from approval. Given that, we are very committed to making sure that every licensed retailer will be visited by our department, our staff to provide the education.
And with that, we are open for questions.
Supervisor Hart? Yeah, that was an excellent presentation. I really appreciate the graphic images that tell the story so powerfully of the products that clearly are designed to addict new users of these products and it really is so heart wrenching to realize we're making such progress with the next generation of young people In reducing tobacco use only to have what is so obviously a clearly designed strategic plan to addict a new generation of users to tobacco products. And it is very discouraging that the federal government said that they were interested in doing something about this, the state government has failed to act.
So it really does fall to us to act and I know Supervisor Hartman and I have both been asking to have this on the agenda, so I really appreciate the work that you've done to get this ready to have it here today. City of Santa Maria and the city of Carpinteria have already taken action. As you mentioned, the city of Santa Maria and the city of Goleta are also interested. So the faster we can get this into law, the better. I think there are other smoking regulations that we want to consider too, and I think that'll take a little bit more time to develop. But being quick, being decisive on this incredibly important issue is really important. So I know we have a lot of folks here who want to speak to that and I look forward to hearing from them.
Okay, and I believe we have close to 30 requests to speak. Supervisor Williams?
Well, I have been convinced by the evidence presented and of course the dialogue that this country is going through. That this is a youth vaping epidemic and in the absence of concrete action from larger organs of government that we at a local level have to lead. And I am excited that public health is bringing us what looks Real comprehensive effort at tackling the products that can hurt our kids and are marketed to our kids.
And one of the things that I think should be mentioned, that if we take action here today, we could make a real difference in curbing youth vaping because there's 64 stores within the county jurisdiction Types of products. And so, I think that alone should make us realize that this is in our lane and our purview and our responsibility to take action to protect our children or our youth.
Supervisor Adam?
So for previewing comments for deliberation. I'm just going to say that I think this is a bit of an overreach and if it was really just about the vaping, I would be inclined to support it but since it goes off into things that are traditionally legal To support it and I may if somebody's interested. I have some some language that That we could substitute in But short of some miracle during public comment, I'm probably not going to be able to support it in its current form supervisor Hartman
I Just had a question about the prohibition on delivery If that could be described to me And then I'll have a lot to say after we hear from the people who are here to tell us what this is like at their schools and in their lives.
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Yeah, so the prohibition on delivery basically is where the tobacco products would only be permitted to be delivered to physical retail locations rather than at a house or personal residence. So that language was added in there to avoid Internet sales although those sales are quite low compared Physical retail locations. It is still a concern of the community and an option that is being presented today.
We're going to discuss it later, I think. All right. Thank you. So let's go to public comment since we have 30 speakers. We're going to give two minutes each. That'll be an hour of public testimony on flavored tobacco so let's move forward.
Yes, Chair Lavinino and members of the board we are going to begin in Santa Maria with Alba Arias to be followed by Alexa Camarena. Alba?
Good morning, my name is Alba Arias. I am a mother of three children, two teenagers and one child. My concern is about e-cigarettes and the way they are available for our youth. They are our future. I'm
Hello Chairman Abanino, members of the board. My name is Gina Cortez representing Fighting Back Samia Valley and I'll be translating what Ms. Arias just read. Hello, I'm Alma Arias a mother of three two of them which are teens my biggest concern is how easily accessible electronic cigarettes are for youth. The youth are our future it is upsetting at how common it is for teens to use these e-cigarettes in classrooms in schools and several other locations by adults where teens hang out We need to protect our youth and our children from these dangerous products, which come in candy-like flavors and packages that children can easily confuse these products as candy.
These products are very harmful and could cost somebody's life. Thank you.
And our next speaker is Alexa Camarena, and then we are going to return to Santa Barbara with Andy Caldwell. Alexa?
Good morning, my name is Alexa Camarena. I am here as a support to ban flavored tobacco. I have seen many students use these devices in class. It is very concerning because of how harmful it is. I encourage you to support the ban on flavored tobacco and menthol. Cigarette smoking is more prevalent to smokers who are young, female or part of a racial or ethnic minority. Help us take a stand against tobacco by including menthol and flavored bands to protect minorities. Thank you for your time.
And we're going to return to Santa Barbara with Andy Caldwell to be followed by Jeffrey Freed.
Chair Lavagnino, members of the board I'm Andy Caldwell representing Colab. I don't like cigarettes. I don't think vaping is healthy, but neither do I think smoking marijuana is healthy either and your board's all over the place. And I've done a lot of shows on this issue of vaping with medical experts from across the land and the bottom line is your staff has given you half the story.
There are several medical journals that have published reports that vaping can be used for harm reduction For adults that are addicted to cigarettes, it's one of the most effective way to get them off of cigarettes. So again we don't live in a black and white world there's a lot of shadows in this world that we live in and I think your staff has done a disservice by not giving you that information because it is readily available And the thing that really kills me about your board, and I used to complain about this. This is the one thing I gave up complaining about.
Item number 824, biannual report for syringe exchange program. You guys have authorized handing out millions of needles. to drug addicts with this much harm reduction happening other than transmission of diseases from the needle but not from the opioid reduce. In other words, people are still dying and you're handing out needles. People are addicted and you're handing out needles. Year after year, because I've been on that thing for over 20 years. And this is on the same agenda for crying out loud. Legalizing marijuana is something you guys rushed.
You rushed it. You already had medical. It was already legal. What you rushed through your planning department was recreational marijuana grows. Where was this department? I saw one report from this department On the dangers of smoke and
marijuana. Mr. Caldwell, your time's up. And I believe that was adult use. It
doesn't matter. And our next speaker is Jeffrey Freed to be followed by Allison Adam. Jeffrey?
Before
I start two other speakers have agreed to give me a minute of their time each. Nope unfortunately we don't do
that here sorry
okay. I'm Dr. Jeffrey Freed. I'm a pulmonary and critical care physician, Director of Critical Care for the Internal Medicine Residency at Cottage Hospital. We're in the midst of twin epidemics which are threatening both the immediate and future health of our children and our young adults. The first epidemic is that of nicotine addiction In 2017, only 7.6% of high school students were smoking tobacco. Today almost a third of high school students surveyed have used tobacco products in the last 30 days. This reversal is almost completely due to e-cigarettes containing highly addictive nicotine salts. The initial attraction for most kids is the vape flavors that have been added resulting in nicotine addiction while at These seem to be mostly fruit and candy flavors as you've seen.
More recently, mint and menthol have become favored in use by half of middle school and high school students who use e-cigarettes and tobacco. There are thousands of chemicals in these flavors, e-liquids, and vaping devices themselves which are toxic which has led to the second epidemic of e-cigarette vaping induced lung injury. 2,300 reported cases almost 50 deaths in just three months.
We have cases at Cottage Hospital, I'm treating one right now. This is a local issue, this is not just a national issue. You'll hear from others today who will claim that these products help people quit smoking. We need to help them quit, the facts are only two out of 100 people who turn to vaping from smoking at the end of a year actually have quit completely the nicotine addiction. 18 are still vaping and the other 80 have not been able to quit. We have other things on the market that are more effective. To summarize, e-cigarettes with flavors including mint and menthol are addicting a whole new generation of our children to nicotine. The addiction is leading to an increase in the use of other tobacco products.
While waiting for action at the state level, communities in California including Carpinteria, I've demonstrated the courage to ban the sale of flavored tobacco and vaping products, including mint and menthol as well as vacant vaping devices. I implore you to protect our kids, spare them from a lifetime of addiction and disease, and ban the sale of these products in Santa Barbara County. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Allison Adam to be followed by Sholay Jahangir.
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Hi there, thank you for having me today. My name's Allison and I'm a senior over at UCSB. I'd like to speak on my experience having worked in schools and now living in Isla Vista where the vaping problem is prolific. And what I'll say about vaping in schools is it's a massive distraction to the educational mission when one child is bringing a vape to school. It's complete chaos in the classrooms and nobody can focus on their homework or the tasks at hand.
Teachers are faced with having to manage these illicit products on campus. I mean, if the problem were students bringing mini alcohol bottles to school it would be no question of a solution to be enacted upon and to move to Isla Vista because I think I bring a unique perspective living there that maybe nobody else will touch on but vaping has been completely normalized in the community and on campus. And has turned folks who are great students, involved leaders, active members on campus into folks struggling with a painful addiction. I have watched good friends and loved ones of mine face anxiety and irritability and an overall decrease in quality of life because of addiction to vaping.
People in Isla Vista may drive elsewhere to still buy these products. I think that by passing this policy and reducing how convenient it is to access these devices will make students in Isla Vista question their purchasing, question their habits, and ultimately and hopefully decrease addiction levels in that community. So I hope you take that perspective into account. Thank you.
Our next speaker
is Sholeh Jahangir to be followed by Rose Munoz.
Good morning, my name is Sholay Jahangir. I am the Gleedy Union School Board Trustee, PTSA President of La Colina Junior High, Vice-President of Foothill PTA and a mother. And I'm a survivor of a mother who was a chain smoker of the 70s and 80s, and died of complications from it. And never in my lifetime did I think I would witness my children having to fight this. So Mr. Adam when I say to you have you witnessed someone watch their child go through withdrawals?
To witness their child have to sit there shaking shiver in pain and agony. Have you held the hand of someone? who picked up an addiction that has to break. If you have not, just stand by and say you cannot hear this or pass this because tobacco is legal. It's legal but not right. And I am a witness, a survivor, and a mother who just had a child in seventh-eighth grade tell me his friend had a pen that looked like a highlighter took a puff and smoke came out and it was vaping and was asked would you like to vape? And he said why would you do that don't you want a better life than this Well, I'm telling you, e-cigarette companies are profiting off our babies, our children. And that's not a scare tactic. That's truth.
It takes a lot of courage to stand up for those who are little and don't have voices. We're adults, we make big choices. I advocate for families in Goleta. I advocate for my children. I advocate for those who don't have voices. E-cigarettes are designed to target children. They are not a way to get off cigarettes. They hook you with the high levels and they are very cheap, and cheap sells.
And I'm telling you right now if we don't stand up We will be watching a generation of children who are addicts with e-cigarettes and it leads to the next thing. I don't want my child To die like my mother did so I encourage you to stand up and be brave because our children are not for profit
All right, we got one veteran in the room of hearings. This means you support so we don't have a lot of clapping or booing or whatever. Okay?
Our next speaker is Rose Munoz to be followed by Wendy Simms-Mountain Okay, I'm here to take a
stand for our future. When a young person is told try this or they see how easy it is to obtain a flavored vaping device, those of us that are in the field of counseling and health and education know what the consequences and the effects of their actions are. I've been a social worker in the health field. For the past 30 years, and I have seen similar to Chalet. I have seen the problems with addiction due to the high amount with vaping of nicotine in these products and also the impact on our most vulnerable in the community as is seen with our young people here.
The likely potential for pulmonary and cardiac problems in the teens and their 20s. The impact on the education, on the students, the parents, the younger siblings that are seeing this as is this acceptable? The manufacturers are targeting our youth. Health information is needed in English and Spanish, and the parents need our support, as well as the teachers in the schools that are trying to monitor this.
As a school board member and a long time social worker, I'm concerned about the detrimental impact of vaping on our young people and also the future generations to come. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Wendy Sims-Moten to be followed by Janie Breckwald.
Good afternoon, now I had morning. Good afternoon Chair Levening and members of the board. Keep it real simple. It's about our children and what we need to do absolutely to make sure that we're protecting them. It is just that simple. I would also like to read as a Santa Barbara Unified School District on October 8th, we passed a resolution That strongly supports any and all civic social service and government agencies in their legislative efforts. And campaigns that protect the health of our entire generation, and preventing them from becoming exposed and potentially addicted to the nicotine or other harmful substance in tobacco and vaping products.
My next hat in terms of first five I would be remiss in not saying what the potential harms in terms with our kids under the age of five as we all know toddlers they explore with their hands. Our next speaker is Janie Breckwald to be followed by Courtney Hamilton.
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Chair Lavagnino, Board of Supervisors. My name is Jane Breckwald and I'm the co-chair of the anti-tobacco coalition called CEASE. We've been around for about 30 years. We work with the community completely, with clinics, hospitals, schools and non-profits and CEAS represents about 12 different non-profits. I'm going to cut this down because I think...I'm going to defer to a lot of the people that are here that are very, very powerful speakers but I would like to say that vaping is new, it's misunderstood It's addictive and even more dangerous than smoking tobacco.
It is not useful for helping people quit smoking cigarettes, and it kills our youth. You can do something about this. Please restrict the sales of flavors including menthol in tobacco and vaping products and provide us with the resources from the Tobacco Resale License to educate and enforce Existing laws on the books which keep our county pristine and healthy for those who live in Santa Barbara County I also want to add that I'm definitely in favor of what a lot of the other communities are doing in terms of doing Having a moratorium on the devices. It's not included in this ordinance, but I guarantee you that you will be seeing our requests in the future
Our next speaker is Courtney Hamilton to be followed by Samantha Herrera and
Thank you, Supervisors. My name is Courtney Hamilton and I'm here representing dozens of independent tobacco retailers. We commend you for taking action to combat youth use of tobacco products but we also press you to protect the small businesses that sell these products. Other jurisdictions like Massachusetts have successfully lowered youth use rates while preserving adult access by restricting the sale of non-traditional flavors Like tobacco such as tobacco, except for tobacco menthol to 21 and over establishments. We urge you to protect children's small businesses and adults' right to choose these products by limiting making exceptions for 21 and up establishments on site use and minted menthol products. Menthol and mint have existed for decades.
Those same decades where youth use has plummeted as well as overall use of tobacco products. The CDC has also determined that the vape illnesses that have been mentioned here today are not, absolutely not caused by nicotine products there 100%. Caused by black market THC products. We absolutely agree that youth use is a problem and we would like to partner with you on helping lower youth use rates in Santa Barbara County, but by eliminating flavors You will eliminate some of these small businesses Thank you
Our next speaker is Samantha Herrera to be followed by Diane Moore
Good afternoon, Chair Lavinino and members of the board. My name is Samantha Herrera and I'm a first generation fourth year at the UCSB. I am also the advisor for our club on UCSB's campus called The Coalition of Young Adult Advocates, also known as COYA. COYA is an action driven alliance of young adults increasing awareness of the health risks of tobacco and encouraging prevention and policy change within the community. I'm here to discuss the importance of passing the ordinance as presented.
This issue is incredibly important to me because I've witnessed a close friend of mine become incredibly addicted to this product. He carried his vape everywhere he went and became extremely dependent on it. I tried multiple times to get him to quit, but every time he tried to stop, he would get sucked right back in with the cheap prices and enticing flavors that he loved.
My friend is not the only young person that this has happened to. I'm a student living in Isla Vista District 3, and since I began my time at UCSB there has not been one day where I did not see a classmate take out a vape pen to use during the instructional time or while walking around campus or in the library. If you take a second to walk down Pardal Road in Ivy, you can see many flavored tobacco advertisements anywhere you go. These advertisements include price promotions and coupons including special limited edition devices and pods.
During the evening hours, I've seen big rigs deliver products to stores with giant advertisements of blue brand e-cigarettes and menthol tobacco products on the side of the truck. This is not coincidental. This is deliberate target marketing from the tobacco and vaping companies. They do this because they know that social pressures exist on and off campus. And they are aware of the powerful social appeals that can hit the market with potential college consumers.
I took the time out of my final studying schedule this week because I care about this topic. And I don't want any more of my friends and peers to get hooked on these products. Flavored vape and tobacco products do not offer any benefits to the person inhaling them or the people around them who inhale the second hand emissions. Tobacco use continues to be the leading cause of preventable death, and vaping caused 2,291 cases of lung injury throughout the United States. I ask you today to please protect me and my community. Thank you for your time.
Our next speaker is Diane Moore to be followed by Mary Conway.
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Hello, my name is Quinton and I'm 11 years old. I am here to change something in the world that is breaking kids' relationships with their family. My brother was addicted to nicotine in 2018. My brother was really nice, kind and smart before the nicotine started taking over his brain. Once I knew my brother was addicted, I started getting scared like really scared And I mean it.
He was banging on the walls. Thankfully, my parents were able to figure out how to test and take away his ability to get nicotine. It's been a year now and he's doing fine. We have learned a lot about the dangers of nicotine. And I want to encourage you to take away access of flavors, all flavors of nicotine. Nicotine tastes gross because it is gross. It destroys brains. There's no flavor that should sugarcoat it. Thank you for your time.
I hope I can take some. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. So Quentin experienced that firsthand and this son, his brother was my easy child. He was the one that did whatever I would tell him to do but then he became a teenager and having previous teenagers I thought it was nothing but unfortunately it was just a friend At school that said, try this. It's so easy to access at school and he did and the pod is so powerful that a teen brain can be addicted quickly, so quickly. And their first vape they're never going to believe they're going to get addicted because they're teenagers. They want to try everything. So the vape industry is definitely Targeting our children with the flavors. There's there's there's no way to deny that and When my son was suspended I I Was at a restaurant and one of the rest one of the Waiters told me that he wished his mom would have stopped him from vaping because he had popcorn lung I sent my son I talked a lot to the administration about stopping this because I would test him at home, he would be on breaks and he would test clean.
And as soon as I'd sent him to school, he would start testing positive because the schools it's out of control they can't have that it's really hard to constrain. This is middle school.
Can I ask a question? Sure. So this is illegal.
It is illegal,
it is illegal.
But can I interject? It is illegal and I talked to the sheriff's department because I knew my son was getting it behind the liquor store and the sheriff's department said they cannot do anything because there's this particular law that was changed Kids can have them on person. So there's basically nothing that the sheriffs can do about taking vapes away from kids and it's not my kid, I can control my kid but it's his friends.
I get it but what I'm trying to get to is a solution so you realize that we've expanded this to all tobacco products for everybody including those over 21?
It's the flavors we got to get rid of
get it. Okay, and so I said at the beginning hang tight At the beginning I said, I'm okay Banning vapes themselves Are you are you satisfied with that? Or do you want the whole thing?
Oh, no if people want to smoke cigarettes I'm fine not menthol but cigarettes. Well, I'm fine with that, but it's the vapes It's completely out of control. It's an epidemic Rita You know about it But I wanted I saw your quote when you said we don't know what we don' We know about this That's what so frustrating is I'm jumping up and down my kid isn't addicted to no, I know but
we're
And we know that a nicotine is addictive
Okay,
so
Yeah, okay as chair. I'd kind of like to limit the amount of time going back and forth we have a lot of speakers
Okay, thank you very much.
Thank you. Okay,
and our next go ahead Our next speaker is Mary Conway to be followed by Isis Dominguez
Good afternoon, Chairman Lavanino and our distinguished supervisors. My name is Mary Conway and I come before you wearing two hats. First as a daughter, a mother, and a grandmother. And secondly, as an advocate for youth which is the role I play as the director of the Santina's Valley Youth Coalition under People Helping People. So first as a daughter growing up in the 50s and 60s, I was infused with smoke and my family and loved ones and those around me and everyone on TV smoked And I had to watch my mother die from the harms of tobacco use. I have had multiple family members, relatives that have also suffered greatly with cancers due to their cigarette smoking. So as a daughter, I was affected early on.
As a mother, I never thought I would have to face this, but my son Michael who grew up in the Santa Ynez Valley as an athlete at our high school became addicted to chew. during his years at the high school, Mint Shoe actually. And he thought he could quit. He kept telling me oh this is no big deal I can quit and of course I knew better and did what I could but he's 43 years old now and he has been struggling with addiction all that time starting with the tobacco use and it was flavors Sometimes he would tell me he couldn't buy the flavors and the other stuff was disgusting. But back then, and now 43, still struggling in his youth.
I know it's hard for people, you're over your time because we have so many speakers. We're doing two minutes, and so two minutes goes by really fast. It
does.
Sorry.
I'm so sorry.
Sorry, it's okay.
I just ask that you please consider this important legislation.
Our next speaker is Isis Dominguez to be followed by Alex Cho. Good afternoon
council members, I'd like to introduce all of the members of the board of Supervisors here today
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I would also like if a minute or so extra would be granted. No,
sorry.
Okay. It's
worth asking for though, at least
you asked. I have a statement contending proposed flavored tobacco ban of sales in Santa Barbara County. The electronic vapor products commonly referred to as e-cigarettes are devices that deliver nicotine via inhalation without combusting tobacco. Electronic vapor products' fundamental purpose in society is to serve as a smoke-free alternative to combustive tobacco products.
As we see in these signs here, all of these companies I want to note have received cease and desist letters from the state. And they have all changed their labels to have more mature designs. If you were to go into my store today, you would not see a single one of these depicted e-liquid brands. When we take a look at electronic vapor products and their usage from an international perspective, a completer more accurate image is constructed. Over the past year according to the UK's Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency only 12 incidents of health problems with nicotine containing e-cigarettes have been reported to the regulatory voluntary system. The UK is an exceptional example how electronic vapor products Can be discerned from combustible tobacco products and how proper application and regulation of electronic vapor products still containing flavorings can serve as a useful harm reduction tool without threatening the health of its use.
I would like to highlight some points Smoking is not vaping, they are very different. Vaping has been shown to be much less harmful to smoking. Creating laws of prohibition is not an acceptable alternative to good parenting and education. And Joel is to big tobacco in disguise and Tactic as big tobacco and should not, in the entirety of the vape industry should not be punished for Joel's mistakes. And relegating flavored tobacco sales to only 21 or older stores. Implementing stricter tobacco retailer licensing providing comprehensive education regarding nicotine delivery systems and reinstating minor possession tickets to those who are underage and caught with such devices would be a more effective approach Decreasing the amount of underage users.
Okay, so you asked for extra time and I said no and then she just went ahead anyway and went over. So thank you, appreciate it.
Our next speaker is Alex Cho to be followed by Victoria Cho.
Hello, good afternoon Board of Supervisors. My name is Alex Chow. I'm a sophomore at San Marcos High School and also a member of the Santa Barbara Youth Council I'm here to represent the Youth Council and present a teen's perspective on this vaping crisis. I have the privilege to work with the Youth Council to create an anti-vaping PSA, with the help of City Council Member Oscar Gutierrez.
Vaping is a really unprecedented issue that isn't addressed well at schools. I've seen classmates as young as, I think, seventh grade that would vape in the corner. They would like go hide. And the teacher wouldn't notice because he wouldn't pay attention to those kids Um, in high school most people would vape in bathrooms. It's most noticeably smelt in the hallways it's very sweet and it smells kind of like you know sometimes cotton candy or strawberries whatever and I've also have some pictures like People would throw away their little devices into the urinal. It's kind of gross, but you would just see the pods covered in pee or whatever.
People disposing of vapes sometimes in the sink or in the hallways. I personally haven't heard of any school rules regulating vaping. I think that we need more rules and regulations for the use of e-cigarettes in school and I'd like to thank you for allowing me to speak here and appreciate your time.
Thank you.
Our next speaker is Victoria Cho to be followed by Don Dunn.
Hi, my name is Victoria Chow. I'm an 8th grader at La Colina Junior High and a junior high representative of the Santa Barbara Youth Council. All throughout my junior high years, I've heard of people vaping in the bathrooms and even heard them talk about vaping right in front of me. Especially on social media, nobody has any qualms sharing any information that they vape or anything about it.
I hear ads on the radio to a school and from sports, and I see people vaping on the sidewalk. Recently, bathrooms start to smell like vape and hallways do as well. I can see people huddled into one stall. Some of my friends have told me they've been offered a vape during class. Within my school, there's been no action towards putting a stop to the excessive youth vaping.
Vaping is extremely harmful and I believe there needs to be an end to this. Thank you for your time.
Our next speaker is Dawn Dunn to be followed by Edwin Weaver
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Good morning, Chairman Lavinino and esteemed Board of Supervisors. My name is Dawn Dunn. I recently retired from almost 30 years running the Tobacco Prevention Program. Some of you may know me as we've worked together before. I want to speak directly to the letter that you received from the American Petroleum and Convenience Store Association or APCS which makes several misleading assertions and I plan to address some of those. First, they allege they're a grassroots organization based in Northern California and are likely a front group for the tobacco industry. I wonder how many members they have in the unincorporated area? Excuse me. One of their primary claims is that tobacco products lead customers into their store who in turn buy other products increasing their profits.
This has always been conventional wisdom. We've always thought it was what's called a lost leader. But two recent studies which you heard about in the presentation, one from Stanford and one from Princeton published in peer reviewed documents refute this. In fact 61% of the tobacco purchases didn't include any other products. The next erroneous assertion is that traditional flavored products are not attractive to youth. It's actually a statement in the letter. This is well documented and you heard it in the staff report presentation and other testimony.
In the mid-1990s, we were working on very progressive policies. One of them was putting tobacco behind the counter. The kinds of things we heard from the tobacco industry groups were they'd go out of business, they would lose jobs. This didn't happen. Our census of tobacco retailers is the same. They said people would get shot in the head turning around to get tobacco products.
None of this happened. They are asking you specifically to remove the ban on menthol for traditional tobacco products. You've already heard they are more palatable to youth, they dumb down the taste. The US FDA left that out by design. The tobacco industry wanted that. I urge you to take action. I have other points but they've been made by other speakers. You've led before please lead again. Thank you
Our next speaker is Edwin Weaver to be followed by Adriana Almazan.
Thank you all for your time. I'm asking for a miracle. Someone asked me recently, what about the 50-year old person who just wants their Newports? That would be my Uncle Frank actually with Salem's. They were mentholated cigarettes that he picked up in the tobacco industry gave him free cigarettes when he went to Korea. My dad got the same things when he went to World War II. My dad was able to quit, Uncle Frank wasn't.
Uncle Frank had two little girls and he died in his 60s. My dad lived till he was 86. I think the difference being was that my dad was able to quit smoking. And so when I think about that 50 year old person who lives here in Santa Barbara County who wants their cigarettes, wants their mentholated cigarettes. My answer is wouldn't it be great to go back to them when they were 16 or 17 years old and hand them a regular unadulterated tobacco product and see what would happen? What would happen is they wouldn't smoke it. Or if they did, they would smoke it and cough like they're supposed to when something other than the fresh air goes into their lungs. They might vomit.
And then they would say, this is nasty. I don't want to do this again. And so I'm not going to talk about vapes, but I'm going to talk about cigarettes. Let's ban them, the mentholated versions. Let's ban the chew tobacco that entices young people and let's stand up for our kids not to be that 50 year old person who is now addicted spending their money on this product and let them choose other vices.
That they can do freely in their home as an American citizen uninterrupted by government and overreach. And let's just take away these products that are going to kill them 20 years short, that are going to probably cost us a lot of money when they go into the hospital. And and like Mary said if you've ever seen anybody die from COPA or other COPD or other these illnesses Then you don't want to see this for this 50 year old constituent in your in your district So, thank you
supervisor out and and what will your next vice be? I I think that's it on my list. Yeah, you say that now Edward Well, you're
only
here because they know how much you want to perfect humanity
well Perfect humanity is a long stretch. No, I don't I just want to live in a smoke-free world Okay. Thank you
And our next speaker is Adriana Almazan to be followed by Sharon Bufano Good
Good afternoon chair and board members. I'm here as a concerned citizen, and I work for the Council of Alcoholism Drug Abuse overseeing the Friday Night Live prevention program And I have letters from our students copies for each one of you Of their concerns about what they're seeing on their school campuses and students from Orca Academy who are particularly concerned that access is too readily available to young people. Whether that be at a store or someone selling black market, I think that was something that was discussed. The point here is still access.
They know that they can get it. They know how readily available it is to them, and they see and look to you to do something about it. So on behalf of them I'd like to give these letters to you, and I believe you're going to be getting some in a little bit from one of our other chapters that was a little bit late on the memo.
And I'm Lisa Gastron and I also work for the Council of Alcoholism and Drug Abuse I have 37 schools. I have every school in Santa Barbara, Goleta and in Carpentria and I am seeing for the first time ever kids being suspended the first week of school for vaping. I am not going to talk about what an adult over 21 years old because that's not my business. My business is children in 37 different schools who are vaping.
I went in there, I said, I need to be ahead of my kids. I have all these kids, I need to know more than they know. So I went in there. It isn't just this, it's pancakes and it's glazed pancakes and little fruit things that looks just like the fruits that kids buy in Little Things. It isn't just the moths and the whips, it is everything so like I said, an adult 21 can do what they want to do but please help us protect our children.
And our next speaker is Sharon Bufano to be followed by Paul Pesternak.
I have a question while you're coming, well I'll save it for later.
Good afternoon Chairman Lavinino and members of the board. My name is Sharon Bufano. I am a co-chair of the coalition at the Health Department, CEAS, Coalition Engaged in Smoke Free Effort and my real purpose in being here is to remind you of your predecessors about 1996 or 7 maybe we got received the tobacco settlement monies and your predecessors put all of that money into health That was managed by the Health Department.
And I was part of that commission, it was called TSAC. And health is what we're talking about today. We're talking about the health of the children and I feel like there's no hyperbole here to quote Mr. Lavinino. This is factual, the data's out, Newspapers, television, whatever. So it isn't just a lot of hot air, it's fact and kids are becoming addicted and the tobacco industry is so smart with us in this county we think we have things in control when we put cigarettes behind the counter before when we have smoke-free bars, smoke free beaches and parks, have a smoke free city but they're always ahead of us They always come out with something else. And so I want you to know that I really support this proposition, and I hope you do too. Thank you.
And our next speaker is Paul Pasternak, to be followed by Gabriela Macias.
Good afternoon. My name is Paul Pasternak. I'm a special education teacher at Cabrillo High School. And so I see the epidemic on a daily basis at my school, and I'm here to speak on behalf of Public Health Department as well in their mission to stop this epidemic. My administration has confiscated many vape devices, and this is just the tip of the iceberg that we have.
Some of these are, this is a green mint with a cannabis leaf on it. This one looks like a highlighter, which is hard for us teachers to realize that it is a vape device. And then one that was shown before that's kind of like really sleek and discreet for students to hide from us. These are not designed for adults. These are designed for teenagers to vape in places that are public with a chance to get away with it.
It is an unfair game that we are playing with our students. And vaping is more important to these teenagers than staying in class and getting their work done. I have noticed students are more irritable, unfocused, and now less motivated. The only motivation they have is getting to that nicotine hit. Students are sharing their vapes, peer-pressuring each other, And challenging each other to even get away with vaping in class.
One student went to the bathroom and vaped, came back to the classroom sat in their chair vomited and then passed out. Ambulance was called and education was not being done. Students are also doing something called zero hits This means that they would sneak a hit and hold it in until none of the smoke will come out, which can be very damaging to their brains and to their lungs. We need help.
We need your help. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Gabriela Macias to be followed by Angel Lopez
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Good afternoon, Board of Supervisors. My name is Gabriela Macias and I'm the Program Director with Future Leaders of America. We're a nonprofit organization that empowers youth to become advocates in their communities. We believe that through advocacy and education, we can transform our communities to be more healthy and prosperous. I'm here today to support our students who will speak in support of the flavor ban.
The use of flavored tobacco among youth and young people has increased so drastically that these students feel that this is a good investment of their time. They should be in school right now preparing for finals but they really feel that they need to be here advocating for their peers and their community. Some of these students were also part of Carpentria's efforts to immediately ban the sale of flavored tobacco and vaping devices.
The council did not hesitate to ban all flavored products as well as electronic nicotine delivery devices. Putting youth lives over tobacco profits, they enacted a moratorium last month. Over 80% of youth who smoke started with flavored tobacco products. And over 80% of adult tobacco users started before the age of 18 years old. The risk for youth access and addiction is extremely high, especially for youth of low socioeconomic status whose families may not have access to prevention support information or resources.
When something harmful becomes normalized in our society, it becomes extremely dangerous and difficult to reverse. I remember growing up in the 90s with my parents smoking in the house and that was perfectly normal for us as a family. Now we see people vaping indoors, students vaping in classrooms. They believe that's not like tobacco smoke. So this is becoming normal for our current time And history is repeating itself.
I urge you to think about our youth as you vote on this issue, so that smoking does not become a normal part of their future. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Angel Lopez to be followed by Daniela Elias.
Good afternoon, Chair Lemangino and members of the board. My name is Angel Lopez and I'm currently working as a youth organizer for Future Leaders America in Santa Maria, a non-profit working to uplift and support youth predominantly of low income minority backgrounds to become advocates in their community, achieve their goals, and live healthy and prosperous lives. Today I'm here in support of a tobacco ban and ask both Peter Adam And Steve Lemangino to follow the steps of what our Santa Maria Council has done when they supported unanimously a flavored tobacco ban and put our youth first in supporting this ban. I ask the Board of Supervisors today, to support our youth and look for better insurance over youth's health and future.
In recent years, smoking cigarettes have gone down. And although that's something to celebrate, tobacco companies unfortunately have now focused their efforts on promoting flavored e-cigarette products with target on our most vulnerable populations. These being low income communities of color, our youth, people LGBTQ plus folk just being some of the groups being targeted. According to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, e-cig usage by high school students increased by 78% between 2017 and 2018. With flavors like cocoa puffs, ice cream donut, popcorn, strawberry shortcake, it is more than obvious then the target of these products are youth. As a youth organizer I often have conversations With youth about what's ongoing in the schools and the challenges they may be facing.
I often hear challenges about academics, which I consider normal but as of late students have been expressing their concern with vaping epidemic going on in their campuses. Students have expressed to me that vaping on campus has become such a distraction that a simple task is using the restroom has become a hassle. Bathrooms are now being shut down in hopes to stopping students from vaping during passing periods or lunch. Students expressed to me that they often have to wait long periods for bathrooms since school officials have now decided to leave one bathroom open for all students. This is often making them late to class and has become a distraction for their studies. I urge the board to take into consideration the effects of vaping academic health on our students, in addition to the health damage That tobacco has on our students.
We should also take into consideration the effects that it has on our student's academics. A flavored tobacco plant including methanol would include all of our students to live in a prosperous and healthy communities where they will achieve their dreams and limit access to tobacco products, thank you.
Thank you.
Our next speaker is Daniela Elias to be followed by Juliana Ornelas.
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Hello, my name is Daniela Elias. I'm a sophomore at San Marcos High School and a member of Future Leaders of America. As a part of Santa Barbara youth, I am deeply disappointed that flavored tobacco products have negatively impacted the young citizens of Santa Barbara. I've had the experience of being peer pressured into trying a vape product in which the people pressuring me were actually younger than me.
I obviously said no. Kids have the mentality that vaping is cool and acceptable, well okay because they think it's safer and less dangerous than smoking regular cigarettes when really that's not true and can very well have similar irreversible damage to a person's health This is such a big problem at school now that we need supervisors in the bathroom to prevent from people smoking or vaping in between passing periods and lunch, which is kind of uncomfortable if you're actually going to the bathroom.
Although some might argue that these companies aren't targeting teens, I'd argue that they are. I still don't know any adult that would want to vape a Captain Crunch flavored product so thank you and I urge you to vote in or Help the community. Thank you.
Good job.
Our next speaker is Juliana Ornelas to be followed by Vanessa Ramirez
So, I'm Julianna Arnelas from Future Leaders of America and adding on to the banning of the sales of these products. Our general trend says that we're big advocates of our region's health while another trend goes on stating that vaping and using electronic cigarettes is a cool thing says Bente Delacruz, a teacher at Carpinteria High School Does it propose that this trend allows you to make risks and begin vaping, begin putting your own health in danger? Because I'm already seeing this problem at school and all around the public.
Relating to school, there are teens caught with vapes, schools with e-cigarette detectors, and new rules that state kids caught with vapes will automatically be suspended. This problem is spreading and becoming injurious. In our communities, we've taken surveys to see what locals think of this problem. People in the public are unaware of what can happen and what is already happening.
I've witnessed middle schoolers after school heading down to Foster's Freeze and using their vape right out in public. We're not doing enough to aid our people nor are we providing them with information on why vaping is great. Back at Carpinteria, we have already passed on a moratorium that banned the sale of flavored tobacco products. Everyone should help out and not just a fragment of us. I urge you to vote yes to banning the sales of these products.
Thank
you.
Our next speaker is Vanessa Ramirez to be followed by Dr. Charles Fenzey
Good afternoon board members. My name is Vanessa Ramirez I'm a member of Future Leaders of America and a junior at Dos Pueblos High School. So right now I should be on my way to my next class but I have to be here to advocate for all my friends. It's
OK we got Kleenex here too take your time
I have to be here to advocate for my friends who have been in this deep hole of an addiction that these tobacco companies have been strategizing. We have been targeted and sometimes it feels like it's Really too late and that there's no hope for my generation, the generation that has so much stress put upon us. Sorry. It's
okay.
Last year for my ABBA class we were able to go on a field trip to Southern California to visit colleges. This trip was supposed to last two or three days and some kids Decided not to go just because they wouldn't be able to take Their jewels or paws or whatever products that they used some of them even brought them knowing that They would risk being kicked out of the AB program and being suspended They thought that then being able to hit their products and Was greater than the risk of them being kicked out of a great program. And they decided to limit their opportunities that they had because of The effects that the tobacco products had on them and It is really disheartening to see That not much has been done, and that statewide a lot of people are still ignoring the issue at hand.
And that my generation is falling into a very deep hole. And I urge you to vote yes on the ban of flavored tobacco products before it is too late for my generation.
Thank you.
Our next speaker is Dr. Charles Fenzie to be followed by Don Goldberg.
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Thank you very much. I cannot beat that last talk.
Few could.
I'm Chuck Fenzie, I am the CEO and the Chief Medical Officer of the Santa Barbara Neighborhood Clinics and I'm here in support of this proposition. I just want to share a few facts from the literature. The CDC in a recent study showed that 99% of the e-cigarette products sold in the convenience stores that they surveyed Contained nicotine even including the ones that had advertised containing no nicotine We know that nicotine harms developing brain The literature says the developing brain continues up until age 25 and there's now some literature That says maybe it goes on into the mid 30s into the early 30s And it does so by interrupting synapses the connections between nerves nerve cells that cause learning The nicotine for the use of nicotine in adolescence Increases the risk of addiction.
We know that there's a several studies that show that I just want to share a couple of other facts a recent survey showed amongst high school students in 2017 11% Had used e-cigarettes in the past 30 days. In 2018, it was up to 21%. In 2019, it was up to 27.9%, almost a third of the population that they surveyed in high schools. In 2011 as a comparison 1.5% were using e-cigarettes.
In a recent survey, when they asked kids why they smoked, why they used e-cigarettes. Number one, they believed that there was no harm in the e-cigarettes. They believe it was safer than using cigarettes. Number two was the low cost. You've heard about that from an excellent presentation from staff and number three was flavoring. So I'm advocating support for this proposition. Thank you.
And our next speaker is Don Goldberg to be followed by Ben Pierce, who is our final speaker.
Thank you to all our caring supervisors. I'm Don Goldberg. I am a 20 year member of CEAS and a US Army Medical Corps veteran. Until, I might add that until you've seen experience the damage caused by smoking and nicotine. Young people, soldiers, civilian, older folks, you have to really see the brutality of it how they suffer especially towards the end of their life.
It's almost beyond description. The tobacco industry executives and the decision makers produce, endorse, sell the deadly poison to our children. As the old saying is it takes a village these are our children. Human beings are warm-blooded, but evidently tobacco industry decision makers have ice water running through their veins. But I know our supervisors are warm blooded.
Thank you.
And our final speaker is Ben Pierce
Good morning, assembly members. My name is Ben Pierce. It's kind of difficult for me to stand here because I sell what everyone's talking about here today. So I just wanted to bring a little brevity and Someone who's on the other side of it, and you can hear my position. So I started a business here in Santa Barbara about five years ago selling these products.
We take pride in our age verification. I have multiple certificates from Mrs Dunn's office acknowledging that diligence, excuse me. And it's really difficult for me to hear these young people speak of this epidemic in their schools. I have children myself. And whatever happens with you here today or in the future, it's pretty clear there's a A cultural shift going on with this product and with nicotine.
My question really is only, where are they getting it? Because they're not getting it from me. And three years ago we had a very successful business. Six months ago we had a very successful business that changed. I don't know how that changed. I've done my part. I made it my everyday business to ensure that my products are age restricted And enforce that diligently, and again have been acknowledged for that. So I don't want to be the monster that I'm being represented as but clearly I am because they're getting it somewhere and if I'm the only space in town that sells it It's difficult for me to defend myself to you so all I would ask is If it's being obtained illegally, then the crime is in that obtaining it illegally and banning it or prohibition doesn't solve that process because it's already illegal.
So hope that helps at least you've met someone from the other side and I thank you all for your time. Thank you
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And that was our final speaker.
So
why don't you come up, give your name, give your testimony then go get a form and fill it out and bring it up. Thank you all for your time, too. I'll make this very brief. I feel like I can actually help sway this, too. Come up to the mic so we can hear it because it goes on TV. I feel like I can actually help sway everybody though, too and I see both sides because I work at a tobacco retail shop but I'm also an uncle of over ten beautiful nieces and nephews, too whose ages range from 7 to 20.
And as a Santa Barbara local, we banned cigarettes a couple of years ago but I still find cigarette butts all over the street. Which leads me to believe that even though if we try to ban vaping they're still going to be around and we're just going to be turning kids and adults towards black market products and that's only going to lead to worse and worse disease because those are the products that actually killed everybody.
It's about regulation in education so we're not trying to get rid of all the products. We're trying to regulate them and make sure that we're actually selling legit products too that are gonna be helping people. What Physicians, e-cigs are 95% safer than cigarettes. The New England Journal of Medicine published a study stating that vaping was twice as effective as quitting cigarettes than nicotine gum and patches. Georgetown University public health experts have stated that switching to e-cigs would save between 1.6 to 6.6 million lives over the next 10 years.
The American Cancer Society's Public Health has stated that there has been no indication in the industry standard nicotine containing vapor products and that none of them are to blame for the recent cases of lung illnesses totaling over 40 deaths. I'm not for banning the vapes, but I am for regulation. I feel that only tobacco licensed stores should be allowed to authorize and sell them. At my store we have a sign clearly stating that you have to be over 21 in order to come in on most of the bottles pretty much all of them they all say you have to be over 21 too. My boss drilled it into my head if you have anybody that you think is under 21 card them. I card everybody at my job. I carded three people yesterday and prevented minors from actually getting their hands on tobacco by doing my job too.
So I feel like if we completely ban them, we're just going to be hurting our kids instead of helping them too. I love my kids and I love my family.
OK thank you very much.
Thank you for your time.
So that closes out public comment. OK board members have questions for staff? OK I had a question that came up during the hearing so he brought up a really good point for me it's like how are we doing a study on How the kids, I could see like older brother or older sister. How's this happening? If you can't get into the shop if you're not over 21 how are you getting your hands on all these products?
This is a great question. There have been some studies done nationally because we're asking that same question, how are they getting access to these products? Because there are some stores that are selling them to underage people but there are a lot of stores that are not. It is our- Let me
just ask right there, it's illegal to sell it to-
It is. Okay,
so they're
doing something illegal.
All
right. Generally, so the recent data shows 74 percent of all kids are accessing these products at a physical retail location. 52 percent of those are getting them from a social source. So likely they are getting them from an older brother or sister, somebody who is selling them on Snapchat, Instagram. That's generally what we've heard for most people is that somebody who is actually of age is going into the store and buying the product and then selling it in bulk. I guess that's kind of where I'm going.
I'm not really, I think I've pretty much got a history of not wanting to ban things because I don't think that works very well. But in this instance, this is so egregious that I can see this. But kids man, they're on the phone, they can order faster than I can open my phone up. How are we as retail? I can get it but it just seems like with all the different apps that are out there if there's a market for I'm just wondering how effective this is going to be. It's a step, but
Supervisor Leveny, no. So some of the language that we've included in the law will hopefully address that issue that our internet sales are not allowed and it is going to be something we need to enforce and it is a little bit of a new realm But if we have it in our law and even as a tobacco prevention program, we're able to call even the top ten online retailers. And show them that they can have a fee and will be suspended via this law will be very effective. I mean there are hundreds but even the top ten top will do that and we will make that effort to do that. And then additionally Dr. DeRionne So has asked me to mention There are studies that show across the state of other jurisdictions who have done this, there is a reduced youth use rate.
So it is an effective tool.
And just for our surrounding areas so somebody just doesn't drive into Nipomo what's San Luis Obispo County doing and what's Ventura County doing?
So Ventura County is also working on this exact same thing. Many of their jurisdictions are doing the same thing, having similar hearings. I think one of them is also this week. Same with San Luis Obispo. Arroyo Grande just passed a law and Morro Bay just did and the county is also working on it. So really we're looking at a comprehensive ban on these products across our Central Coast region. There are versions of me in different counties and all of us sort of working on these same protections.
Yes, Chair Lavagnino. We also have a list of other jurisdictions who have either passed similar bans or considering passing bans. It's docketed if you're interested. Cool.
Supervisor Hart?
Could you please put up page four on your presentation? It's the pictures of the flavored products.
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Is this the one?
Yeah, that's exactly it. This is why we're doing this today because this is the most egregious thing I can even imagine. Can you picture the adults who were sitting in a corporate boardroom who thought this was a good idea to addict children to nicotine products? I mean, this is unfathomable and the fact that the state and the federal government haven't Taking action to stop this is beyond ridiculous. And so I don't think this is very complicated personally, I think we should move expeditiously to Approve the stack recommendation the work they've done is very compelling and it will make a difference It won't solve this problem entirely but it is the first step and we need to take it today
Okay supervisor Adam Supervisor Williams.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more that this is egregious and You know, but that's not the problem We're all solving today or all the problem we're solving today if that were all the problem we were solving today There would be absolutely no reason for this whole thing I mean we could have put that on the agenda. I think unless everybody just wants to talk about it I have no issue banning vapes and I have no issue banning any kind of flavored product.
But when you go back into all the other stuff that's traditionally been available for people over 21, I got a problem with that and I don't think it's any different than Any any kind of alcohol or even marijuana? You know I disagree with people's Smoking marijuana, but you know we just got done with prop 64 and Everybody are a majority of people the state of California Decided that it was okay to smoke recreationally so you know I lost on that one and Short of banning it as as a and and we seem to be focusing here on Nicotine which is It's fine, but I don't know why there's no mention of marijuana in this whole In this whole deal. And so
Would you be okay with a bifurcated motion that went with flavored tobaccos first and then I Because I think you want to be on the record is Supporting
well, I don't know if they don't want to be on the record is supporting it. I just I don't want to ban it I mean right, you know so yeah, yeah, I
meant supporting the ban on flavored
kids tobacco
flavor
items kids nicotine Yeah, yeah delivery system that yeah, we can chop
it up
I have language here that I could try out and see if anybody's interested in that, in terms of banning these kind of products. Mr. Guzzone?
Chair, just before we get to that I think we're just doing a housekeeping item here that the list of other jurisdictions with bans. I think clerk or the board can address that since it was distributed to the to the board. I think we're now posting that so it's available to the public also.
Okay.
Yes chair Levin you know members of the board we are posting that online as well as making copies for the back of the room whoever would like that available
okay? So Mr Adams has some language
Which is up on the screen. Okay,
yeah.
Maybe I'll just read it for the public. Flavored tobacco product in quotation marks means any electronic smoking device that contains a taste or smell other than the taste of or smell of tobacco that is distinguishable by an ordinary consumer either prior to or during the use of the device including but not limited to Any taste or smell relating to fruit, menthol, mint, wintergreen, chocolate, cocoa, vanilla, honey or any candy, dessert, alcoholic beverage, herb or spice.
So that is what we would be banning.
And how staff wise does this differ from what the recommended staff proposal is?
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So separating these out would leave a lot of products on the market that are killing people. Traditional tobacco is leading cause of preventable death in the United States, that is this menthol pack right here. That if separated out would still be on the market. We have included it in this proposed recommendations because this is an opportunity to protect the public's health by taking away a lot of these products. A lot of the issue here is that they may start with these electronic smoking devices. As you've heard, they will become lifelong addicts most likely if they continue to use them when they leave their teens and a lot of times they will then continue on to use these types Things like that. They'll also become dual users, it's very common and there are studies that are showing that this is happening so we've recommended the full ban that includes both products because it is what will protect our youth the most and it will also protect adults who are currently addicted or who will go on to die and have severe disease from these types of products.
Mr. Guzzone. Chair, at the technical level, the change definition shown on that slide in which clerk of the board is posting for distribution is at section 37A-2F and essentially is a narrower band that would prohibit the sale of flavored vaping products with tobacco But leave open the traditional tobacco products that were not used through an electronic device.
So even under the staff recommendation, somebody still wants to go into a tobacco store, buy a pack of cigarettes or go to Target or whoever else sells them, I have no idea and buy a pack of cigarettes that aren't menthol or mint they still could get whatever cigarette they want?
Yes, that's correct. They can still buy any original tobacco flavor e-juices or cigarettes or swisher sweets that are not flavored. So there still will be a lot of product on the market that they will have available to them. Just not these starter products that will target youth.
Okay, so I had another question. I see other lights on but while I'm thinking. So one of the, when we brought this around. I'm fine with 99.9% of this. The one issue I kind of had was on the packaging requirement. Is that legal that we tell people how they can package a product? Quantity wise and saying you can't have or
Chair and supervisors, the short answer is we believe that the minimum pricing and packaging component of this is legally defensible. And part of that comes from the fact that the federal government in this area has provided much broader anti-preemption language than with any other product so that the county actually has the authority to just broadly prohibit the sale of tobacco products.
Supervisor Williams
and Supervisor
Adams? I think this is an example That we do have staff that have accumulated a decent amount of expertise on this subject matter. They are presenting us with a targeted set of products that are particularly marketed to youth or are finding their way more often as a method by which youth are getting addicted and I think It shows a certain amount of restraint on their part, but also I think effectiveness. We want our laws to mean something and so you're going after the products that are causing the most damage to our society especially to our youth.
And so I think we should support this effort. I think we should support this recommendation as Supervisor Hart just articulated. Ask that we also direct staff to monitor how the retail establishments are handling the ban because what I'm very concerned of is sort of what Supervisor Lavagnino's line of questioning was about earlier, which is how does something that's supposed to be illegal fall into the hands of youth? And the answer It seems at least 52% of the time is straw buying, right? Somebody locally that has the right to buy is going in there and buying a lot of product. And finds it eventually into the hands of youth.
And so I would argue that if you want to be a responsible retailer, then you should stop selling the products that disproportionately fall into the hands of youth. Because what marketing or carrying those products is, is you may not be selling directly to young people, you're just selling indirectly to young people because I don't know how many As the young woman said, I don't know how many adults are going to buy a Captain Crunch flavored. Why you looking at me?
So you know and I would just say the other reason to monitor it is to understand whether we need to take additional steps or not. And I would ask retailers to not be dumping the rest of this product on the market because it will find its way to youth. I would be counseling retailers to return it to the manufacturer, because in my view if retailers handle this recommendation by turning around and dumping it on the market which will inevitably find its way into the hands of kids Then our response should be to enlarge this effort to adult products.
And so, I think at this point we need to have a little bit of the threat of something more to ask and even force you to act responsibly. And I think the responsible course of action in the face of this ban is to return these products to the manufacturer.
Supervisor Adam then supervisor Hartman
Did does this ban as currently proposed catch THC products No Doesn't doing anything for THC products.
No, this is strictly tobacco products a
Okay. And have we ever enforced, have we ever gone out and found one of these people that's a straw buyer? I mean you know you get kids that wind up at the hospital and have we ever gone out and found who got them this product and prosecuted them?
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Traditionally, they're generally called shoulder taps. Same with alcohol where you would have somebody, an undercover operative attempt to ask- That's not what
I'm asking about.
Okay, sorry.
I'm saying there's kids that we know of. I mean, you got a doctor behind you from Cottage who presented with either nicotine or other vaping-related illness at a hospital, right? So did we ever go back through that chain of custody and find out where that material came from?
So from what I know in the last two investigations that we did, the patient forgets where they got the materials from. And so there's some sort of amnesia and so it is not likely at least the last two cases that I'm familiar with that this source of product was disclosed?
Well, I think that we're We're trying too much all at once. And I can see the train has left the station, but I don't think we're trying hard enough to enforce something that's already illegal and now we're just going to go ban it. We're going to be talking about severe misgivings, especially minors. If everybody that ends up with this stuff in the future ends up with amnesia and it's still going to go on the exact same way because there is a trip Supervisor Hartman.
I think we were told that in areas where they have introduced these, that there has been a reduction. I just wanted to say that I think staff did a fabulous job on this and I'm so grateful to the people who are here to testify today. The teachers, the students, the UCSB students This is a scourge and it's a stealthy one. I had no idea that teachers were having a difficult time conducting their classrooms, and that students couldn't even use the bathroom facilities because of what's happening.
That family and friends are struggling with this kind of addiction. It's just this kind of trickery to lure children and vulnerable people into addiction so that others can profit, it's really unconscionable. And there's private economic benefit but these costs are socialized and they're socialized as we have heard today to our education system, to our health insurance cost, to our public health And just the failure of young people to be able to reach their full potential because what has been happening to their brains and their synapses. Thank you so much for explaining that to us.
Trying to assimilate this reeling from it because I've been following and Ali Adam who testified actually did some research in our office but somehow these stories of how it's affecting people is really more than I ever expected. So, I believe we have to do all that we can and I would like to move staffs recommendation that we receive and file this Presentation about the dangers of these cigarettes e-cigarettes That we consider the introduction the first reading of an ordinance amending County Code chapter 37 a And that we continue this hearing through December 17th as stipulated in staff 1 and 2 of our staff report
second
And can I just, the question I had is can we add into that the directive for staff to monitor the implementation? Especially trying to determine whether the retail establishments are dumping onto the market their remaining inventory at discount rates or whether they're taking more responsible actions like returning them to the manufacturer. That's something the maker of the motion would agree to. Sure, yes.
Second too.
All right we got a motion and second let's do a roll call.
Mr. Adam?
No.
Roll-call vote Failed 1–1 motion and second let's do a roll call.
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Okay so we're going to break for closed session. Mr Gazzone
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Chair and Supervisors, today we have two items notice for closed session both existing litigation. The first Alcox versus City of Lompoc which is a US District Court case and the second are the Southern California fire cases which are coordinated at Judicial Council Coordination Proceeding number 4965 in Los Angeles County Superior Court.
We still got a hearing going on hold on a sec, okay?
I expect this will be a short closed session where both matters will be a total of less than 30 minutes.
Okay, we'll be back no earlier than 2.15.
Yeah. Thank you. you Yeah. Hi. Hello, everyone.
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All right, we're going to reconvene this meeting of the County Board of Supervisors. Mr. Gazzone can we get a report out of closed session please?
Chair and supervisors, today in closed session the board considered two matters of existing litigation. In the first, Alcox versus City of Lompoc, all five supervisors approved an appeal of the portion of the district court's summary judgment motion ruling that did not grant qualified immunity to the county defendants, and we will file that. The other matter was the Southern California fire cases which are coordinated in Los Angeles County Superior Court, and there are no reportable actions in that second matter.
Very good. So, we are
moving to item D2. Madam Clerk?
Chair Lavinino and members of the board, departmental item number two is from public health. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the work plan for competitive process for emergency ambulance services in exclusive operating areas. Good
morning. Good afternoon. Geesh. All right, we've been here awhile.
Good afternoon, Chair and members of the board. We are here to give you a status update about the anticipated RFP process and also to seek your direction to identify funding so that we can proceed. We will start this RFP process with finalizing the rules of engagement with county council. Staff have been meeting with county council on a weekly basis just to define rules and want to make sure that while it's a transparent process, it's a defensible process. So we will be setting up a work group comprised of county leadership, general services, county council and public health. And the objectives for this work group will be to provide guidance on the RFP consultant scope of work, to provide guidance on the RFP consultant selection, receive updates on progress with the RFP for the ambulance services and to provide policy level support and guidance.
So to recap the generic timeline we presented to you on October 1st, this was the general timeline with no dates. We've now added dates that process as we march forward. We do have a three-month buffer, so if this process proceeds without any issues or without any challenges we have about a three month project buffer for some slippage in time. And then the new contract would be able to be starting on January 1st of 2023 and as we move forward in the next several slides you've sort of broken down the process key objectives some outcomes and then any potential risks that will be present in those areas It is just quickly key to note that the process between the California EMS Authority review and Board of Supervisors review is interchangeable.
It's not one, then the other. You could have the Board of Supervisors first and the EMS Authority we haven't quite finalized that process yet. So the RFP Consultant Selection Overview it's the stage in the process where we're at currently Once we've identified funding, we'll begin the procurement for an RFP consultant. We'll work with the RFP advisory group to develop that scope of work for the consultants and then complete a procurement for that particular individual or group.
We plan to have that signed contract ready to go in work starting no later than June 1st of 2020. And we're working very closely with the general services team to ensure that every step of the process meets their requirements as well. Next would be the Ambulance Service RFP Requirements Development Overview. This is probably the most lengthy part of the process in which we really will be relying on the RFP consultant as well as the advisory group to set parameters and a process in which we'll follow to start this and develop those requirements. We do envision engaging stakeholders during this process, however, we'll have them guide us in how we'll do that. And then if all goes well, we should have this released or the RFP released by March of 2021.
Next, we will submit that to the California EMS Authority for review. They have to review the updated local EMS plan as well as the RFP. That process could take anywhere from four to eight weeks. This depends on their workload and we'll work with them to mitigate any challenges there and hopefully get that processed and approved quite quickly. Then we envision a process in which the board would review that RFP as it's released or prior to release if possible. Again, working with county council on that process and procurement should be a fairly straightforward process prior to release Then once the ambulance RFP is released, this is really where the excitement happens. The RFP would be released. We envision there'd be a bidder's conference.
We obviously will be receiving proposals that would be scored and we will work on who will be sitting on that scoring committee and who would be scoring their proposals. Again, be working with the RFP consultant to really work through this process and help us develop that. This process is probably the one that has the most, is the most sensitive to any time slip as there's a potential for challenges with the bid or having unresponsive bids. So we could have a potential for a longer slippage in time here.
Last or next would be obviously once we select a successful bidder, we would then negotiate the terms of the ambulance agreement should be a fairly straightforward process but we will continue to engage our RFP consultant during this process as they have been engaged in the development The next, the State California EMS Authority also reviews all contracts. So the contract would be reviewed against the RFP to ensure that contract we wrote met the requirements of the RFP.
Again they could take time to review that. And then last but not least in the process would be the board reviews. The board approved contracts, so once the state's approved it then the board would have the opportunity to approve it. The key to note is that any changes once the state has approved either the RFP or the contract, any changes subsequent would have to go back to the state for re-review.
And then last but not least would be the ambulance provider ramp up period. So any new provider theoretically would need probably about six months of time to procure stations, personnel, ambulances and all the requisite equipment and processes in place to have the ambulance agreement in place or that staff and personnel in place to launch the ambulance agreement for a smooth start on January 1st 2023.
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Since this is an unbudgeted process, we will be working with the CEO's office to identify funding sources and will return to your board. We'll also be looking internally to see if there are available resources as well as with our county colleague departments to see if other available resources are available to support this process. And with that, we are open for questions.
Okay, questions from the board? Do we have any requests to speak from the public?
Chair Lavinino and members of the board. We have no requests to speak on this item
Wow okay Can I get a motion? Supervisor Williams Well
I'll move this as a receive and file correct but I just do want to comment that my hope is that you will take all steps Reduce the risk of timeline slips as you mentioned. I mean, I wouldn't look at that this time line and describe it as ambitious. I would describe it as realistic even careful. So let's if that's the case then let's stick to it.
Okay so was that a motion to receive in file? That
was a motion to
receive.
I think there's a few other actions in there, and I think it includes all of staffs recommendations, I believe. Okay,
I'll move A through C. A through C seconded by Supervisor Adam. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? It passes unanimously.
Thank you.
And that takes us to item D4. Oh, they're not here yet. So is Mr. Frapwell? You want to go to five? Well, D4's here. Okay. Came up from behind. All right.
Chair Lavagnino, members of the board, departmental item number four is from planning and development. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the county and Montecito Planning Commission's recommendations to adopt three ordinances case numbers 19 ORD3 19 ORD 4 and 19 ORD 5, which would amend respectively the County Land Use and Development Code CLUDC, the Montecito Land Use and Development Code MLUDC and the Coastal Zoning Ordinance Article 2 to implement a series of amendments that revise procedures and regulations for commercial telecommunications facilities and recordable documents to implement federal and state regulations. Delete repealed and expired regulations. Delete uncertified regulations from the CLUDC and MLUDC that were intended to apply solely within the coastal zone, and make other minor clarifications, corrections, and revisions.
And in addition consider recommendations regarding submittal of the Article 2 amendments to the California Coastal Commission for certification as amendments to the Santa Barbara County Local Coastal Program, LCP.
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Good morning, Ms. Harris.
Supervisor Nielsen? I think there must be some place in heaven for folks that are especially given task of local coastal plan amendments. That's my personal
Good afternoon Mr. Chair, members of the Board of Supervisors. I'll be presenting the proposed 2019 General Package Ordinance Amendments and we have a number of amendments to walk through today. I hope I can keep your interest through the presentation. Some are interesting, maybe some not so much. But let's get started. The purpose of today's hearing is to review and approve draft amendments to the County Land Use and Development Code, the Montecito Land Use and Development Code and the Coastal Zoning Ordinance Article 2.
In brief, the following amendments are proposed to delete the coastal zone regulations from the county and Montecito LUDCs. To delete expired and repealed sections of the ordinances. To add a new section for recordable documents. To amend the commercial telecommunications facilities section. To delete attachment one from both the county and Montecito LUDCs.
And to correct minor errors and omissions. To review the amendments in more detail, the first would delete most of the remaining Coastal Zone regulations and reference language from the County and Montecito LUDCs with a very few exceptions. The purpose for this amendment is threefold. First, the Coastal Zone regulations in the County and Montecito LUDCs were not certified by the Coast Commission.
Second, by removing the coastal regulations that do not apply within the inland areas From the county and Montecito L UDC's. The amendments would eliminate confusion as to which ordinance applies within the coastal zone. And third, Article 2 continues to govern within the coastal zone so no regulations are lost. One exception to these deletions is that the transfer of development rights chapters will remain in both codes because this section applies to both coastal and inland areas.
And the amendment would also delete from the Montecito Land Use and Development Code only a subsection that requires compliance with Measure A-96 and its related Appendix B. Measure A 96 was an initiative that was approved by the county electorate in 1996. It requires subsequent voter approval of any Board of Supervisors legislative approval for an onshore support facility for offshore oil and gas activity.
Examples are general plan amendments and rezones to allow such activity where it might not be allowed under current zoning requirements. Measure A-96 is not effective in, and it never applied to inland Montecito. It was a coastal zone requirement that had been added to the Montecito LUDC when the county attempted to combine the coastal and inland regulations into one code.
These amendments today would also delete three expired or repealed sections. First, the time extension due to economic hardship was adopted into all three ordinances during the recession. It allowed an extension of permit expiration dates for a hardship that was due to the national economic downturn. The county intended for these provisions to expire once the economy recovered And so set automatic expiration dates for these provisions. The provisions expire January 12th of 2015 and the economy recovered, and so now it's appropriate to delete these sections from the codes.
In 2010, in compliance with the state law, the county adopted provisions into the County and Montecito LUDCs for small wind energy systems. The state law included provisions for automatic repeal on January 1st of 2017 unless it was extended by a new state statute. The county included the same repeal provisions in both of the Land Use and Development Codes And the state did not extend the provisions, and so they have not been in effect since 2017. And so the amendments are proposed to delete that expired language.
And then third, the Residential Agricultural Unit Program or RAU was adopted in 1999 to allow a second residential unit on certain lands zoned Agricultural 2 provided the second unit would be incidental and supportive of the primary agricultural use of the land. The Board of Supervisors set an expiration date for these regulations and they did not extend that expiration date beyond July 6th of 2008 thus since this Section of the codes have has not been in effect for many years staff recommends that it be deleted. I Next, amendments to add recordable documents are proposed for all three ordinances.
State law limits what can be recorded to documents that are authorized or required by statute, court order, or local ordinance. Currently the zoning ordinances require recordation of a notice-to-property owner, or NTPO, for certain identified uses such as a guest house, an artist studio, or a home occupation. However, sometimes decision makers may require recordation of documents for other uses that are not specifically identified in the zoning ordinances. This amendment adds a new section to all three ordinances which identifies additional use and documents that shall be recorded when required by a permit condition of approval.
Before we discuss the specific amendments to the telecom regulations, I would like to provide a little background and context that are relevant to the proposed amendments. And this is probably the most complex amendment that we have in our ordinance package this time. First, the Federal Telecommunications Act of 1996 established federal regulatory authority for personal wireless telecommunication facilities.
It generally preserved local zoning authority over the placement, construction and modification of personal wireless service facilities. The local authority is subject to several limitations, including local regulation must not prohibit or have the effect of prohibiting the provision of personal wireless services. And local governments must act on applications to deploy personal wireless facilities within a reasonable period of time.
In 2009, the FCC adopted a ruling that interpreted reasonable period of time as 90 days for co-located facilities applications and 150 days for all other applications. These became known as shot clocks. The county adopted a tiered permitting structure in 1996 to first address these facilities, and then the county revised it in 2011 as new information and practices and procedures were implemented.
The current proposed amendments would revise all three of the zoning codes. The new amendments are proposed so that the county will comply with more recent federal law and regulations, specifically the Spectrum Act of 2012 and a new declaratory ruling in order that was adopted by the FCC in 2018. First, the Spectrum Act requires the streamlining of the permit process for eligible modifications to wireless facilities and places some additional limits on local authority.
A local authority must approve modifications to eligible facilities, and these are defined as co-location removal or replacement of wireless transmission equipment on existing permitted wireless towers or base stations. In other words, on structures that have already been permitted with wireless facilities. To be eligible There can be no substantial change to the physical dimensions of the facility.
What constitutes a substantial change is included in the Spectrum Act and carried forward in the county's proposed amendments The FCC requires that the county must approve these projects within 60 days instead of the 90 days for co-location that was established in 2009 The county amendment proposes to process and approve these applications that qualify as eligible facilities modifications with a zoning clearance, which is a ministerial permit.
Please note that these are changes to a facility that was already permitted with the development plan or conditional use permit and there would be no substantial change to the physical dimensions so in other words using terminology that we often use in our ordinances they would be considered minor changes to an approved project Second, the county must comply with new federal regulations in the new FCC Order 18-133 which was adopted in September of 2018 and took effect in January of this year.
Essentially the order requires streamlining of the process for small wireless facilities The order also defines the criteria for what types of facilities qualify for this process. Key among these are that each antenna can be no more than three cubic feet in volume, that all associated equipment on the structure can be no more than 28 cubic feet in volume cumulatively and at the height of structures that small wireless facilities are mounted on have to fit within certain limits.
They can be mounted on structures that are 50 feet or less in height, or structures that are no more than 10% taller than adjacent structures. Or that they do not extend the existing structure height to a height of more than 50 feet or 10% taller than adjacent structures. This rule also requires expedited time frames to process the local permits, 60 days for co-located small wireless facilities which means adding a new antenna to any existing structure and 90 days if permitting a new structure that will host a small wireless facility.
The order also allows the local use of aesthetic standards if the standards are reasonable objective and published in advance And finally, the order limits the local authority with respect to all wireless facilities not just the small ones. A local authority cannot adopt regulations that would effectively prohibit wireless facilities nor can the authority require a significant gap or least intrusive means test.
The county proposes the following amendments to all three zoning ordinances to comply with the new federal regulations for small wireless facilities. First, the proposed amendment would revise tier 2A of the permit process hierarchy. Tier 2A is currently for very small facilities. The amendment incorporates the small wireless facilities into this tier and which are a bit larger than the very small.
In addition, the amendment would apply this permit tier to all zones including residential zones. Currently, tier 2a does not apply within residential zones. And the Tier 2A permit process requires review and approval of a development plan application by the Director of Planning and Development. This would remain the same. So practically speaking, what does this change mean?
Currently all facilities no matter how small if they're located within a residential zone they would require a conditional use permit and a hearing before the county or Montecito Planning Commission With this amendment, the small wireless facilities and residential zones would instead be permitted with a director approved development plan which does not include a hearing.
The reason for this permit processing change is to comply with the new federally mandated timelines. 60 days is not enough time for staff to process a conditional use permit and prepare for a hearing before the planning commissions. However, please note any project in a residential zone that doesn't qualify as a small wireless facility would still be processed with the conditional use permit and hearing before the commissions.
In addition, the amendment would add to objective aesthetic standards one for colors and materials to match or blend the structure into the background and minimize visibility and a second one that would Require antennas mounted on building facades to be integrated into the architecture so as to completely screen them and their equipment. Staff intends to develop more objective aesthetic standards in phase 2 working with the boards of architectural review.
Next, the amendment would delete two findings related to the new FCC orders requirement for no effective prohibitions and no significant gap or least intrusive means test. And last, the amendment would revise the content of the notice for a director approved development plan. It would no longer offer an option to request a hearing however all other notice requirements for telecom projects which are more extensive than for other projects those would remain the same.
Mr. Chair? Yes. I just wanted to ask the question that, you know, and pertaining to the recommendation from the issue brought up at the Montecito Planning Commission about... I don't know what word to use except to use the term that has been used in other industries but a common carrier rule or some common carrier incentive. The idea has been brought up that Obviously, this means that these processes will be more ministerial than discretionary.
And the danger there is people keep on wanting more facilities and that maybe one small facility with two or three carriers on it is better One with just one, because then you won't have two or three times the applications and two to three times the locations. So have you thought at all about how we could comply with the request of the Montecito Planning Commission to have some mechanism for an incentive or some kind of, I don't know, We asked them to be willing to take another carrier's equipment in exchange for the next one that comes in from that other carrier has to take their equipment or some other mechanism by which we could reduce, contain a proliferation that's inevitable just given the kind of demand for technology and bandwidth.
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Supervisor Williams through the chair. I don't know specifically about incentives but the ordinances already have a requirement and I'm not necessarily a requirement but an encouragement for co-location And it's in all three codes, but it does state that co-location on existing support structures shall be required unless and then there is a few exceptions and reasons why facilities would not have to be co-located. So it's already a development standard that's in the code to encourage that to happen
And I at least I usually think of co-location is on some other struck structure right am I getting that definition correct. I think it's important to understand that we don't have a system that is stronger than we want you to do it with somebody else. But that we either require it or have some incentive system in place where. In one square block, we don' get an application from AT&T I mean do we have any, you got to know that this, I'm sure you knew this question was going to come up since it was talked about probably for a long time at the Montecito Planning Commission.
I think that well aside from
which basically says if there's a facility that works, you need to go on that existing facility and then there's reasons why you might not be able to co-locate. So we have that.
And does that apply to small residential structures too? Meaning if your competitor already has one on the block The question is. Does does our language point them towards co locating with that current? Structure even if it's not originally a collated located facility, It's simply right. You know, small residential
right Mr Chair Supervisor Williams. I'll let Miss Harris answer that question but. One of the other things So one of the things that we could do in building those standards is to create ones that really reinforce the idea of co-location. So, we haven't developed all of those yet but we could work toward that as we develop them and then bring them back.
But that would be the cleanest way to do that. And I would just ask my colleagues to support putting that in the recommendation.
Supervisor Williams through the chair with regards to the co-location. It does apply to All of the telecommunications facility starting with tier 2 and the very small and small wireless facilities that on up to Brand new structures in larger facilities, so it applies to all of them So moving right along, we're getting close. On to the next amendment, the proposal to delete attachment one from both the county and Montecito land use and development codes.
Attachment one of both of the codes are the community plan development standards. And they were added to both of the LUDCs as conveniences when the LUDCs were adopted. They were not actually incorporated into the LUDCs, so they're not... Sounds kind of strange but they're not part of the code and yet they're published with the code. Staff intends to remove these attachments from the LUDCs for several reasons.
As I mentioned, they're not part of the codes. They're also excerpts. The complete language in context of the community plans was not included. The attachments have not been maintained So for example, since the LEDCs were first adopted there have been several amendments including amendments to the Orchid Los Alamos and Summerlin community plans. There've been new plans adopted including Mission Canyon which replaced an old specific plan.
The Eastern Goleta Valley Community Plan which as you know updated a portion of the Goleta Plan for the Eastern Goleta Valley. And the new Gaviota Coast plan. The attachments have not incorporated any of the changes, nor have they incorporated any new community plans. In addition, the numbering system in the attachments does not match the numbering system within the community plans themselves and all of that can lead to confusion when somebody's trying to look at a plan and say hey what development standards apply to my project? So, the key takeaway is that both of the codes have findings that must be made.
That a project must be consistent with the applicable policies and development standards of a community plan. And so, that's the only way you can get your permit. And to make those findings it's better that you go straight to the community plan itself. They're all published on the website and look at the standards directly in the plans. And finally, there are two additional minor amendments that are worth noting. First in both the County Code and the Article 2 Coastal Zoning Ordinance staff proposes to correct an error that we found in three figures that illustrate how to make some calculations regarding the floor below grade adjustment in the Summerland Community Plan.
And second, in Article 2 staff proposes to correct a numbering error and reorder the community plan overlay district divisions that are found near the end of the code. And not so that the section numbering and the division numbering are in sequence. The Montecito Planning Commission considered these proposed amendments for the Montecito LEDC and the Montecito area of Article 2 on October 16th.
The Montecito Commission recommended approval with three revisions to the telecommunications amendments for the projects within the Montecito planning area, both inland and coastal. First, the Montecito Commission recommended revising the permit review process for Tier 2A, the small wireless facilities to require that a member of the Montecito Commission participate in the review of any applications submitted to the Director for Tier That is subject to the initial review and approval by the director.
However, requiring a member of the Montecito Commission to participate in this process raises several concerns. First whether such participatory review could be accommodated within the expedited 60 day review timeline. Second, it's unclear how to incorporate any meaningful input in the process. And three, that it would create procedural conflicts to insert a Montecito Commissioner formally into the review and decision-making authority of the Director, especially when the Director's decision is appealable to the Montecito Commission.
The second revision would add a development standard requiring that any telecommunications equipment installed by an applicant for small wireless facilities shall, when feasible, also be made available for use by another carrier if that additional use is compatible with any existing use. And I think this was the question Supervisor Williams was asking us about.
As we had mentioned before, we're concerned that there's redundancy with the existing ordinance provisions requiring co-location and any requirement to share equipment such as antennas or support structures could raise issues related to enforceability. And then the third revision, the Montecito Commission recommends retaining the existing findings in the ordinance that the proposed wireless facility design and location is the least intrusive means feasible for the carrier proposing the facility in order to provide the needed coverage.
However, retaining this finding would be inconsistent with the FCC order and deleting the finding is recommended to bring the county ordinances into accord with the FCC order. So for these reasons, the County Planning Commission did not carry the Montecito Commission's recommendations forward when making its recommendations to your board. The County Planning Commission considered the same proposed amendments for the county LUDC in Article 2 on November 7th. The County Planning Commission recommended approval of the amendments and as I just mentioned without carrying forward the Montecito Commission's recommendations for Article 2.
Staff recommends that the Board of Supervisors adopt the County Planning Commission's recommendation for the county LUDC and Article 2, and that the Board adopt the Montecito Planning Commission's recommendation for the Montecito LUDC but without the recommended revisions. The language to use for the recommended motion is included on pages 1 & 2 of your board letter Including making the findings for approval, determining the amendments are exempt from CEQA and accepting 97ND02 and its addendum dated March 4th 2011 as adequate environmental review for amendments to the telecommunications sections of the code.
And adopting resolutions approving the amendments to the county LUDC, the Montecito LUDC and Article 2. Finally staff recommends adopting a resolution today to submit the article 2 amendments to the Coastal Commission and to direct planning and development to transmit this middle. This completes our presentation, thank you.
You didn't think that was riveting? Come on! Supervisor Williams.
Well I can we go back to the 3 revisions so on the last one Can you explain to me why, if we still have to approve it. If it's the least intrusive means possible, why would it conflict with the order? Can you explain that? I'm not an expert on the order so I just want to understand that.
Supervisor Williams through the chair. I'll give it a try and County Council can always correct me if I'm stumble on this but There are back in 2011 when we did the 2011 Revisions to the telecommunication section, we adopted two findings which talked about Which Said that the applicant for the wireless facilities have to demonstrate that their facility's design and location is the least intrusive means, meaning that it's located where it's going to be least intrusive. It's a very discretionary consideration.
And they also had to demonstrate that they had to have the wireless facility in that specific location. They couldn't co-locate it somewhere else, they had to make very specific, show specifically why it had to be there and not somewhere else. The counties made had that requirement that the applicants submit that information and the county has to make that finding.
This new FCC order has stated specifically and clearly that local jurisdictions cannot require that of the wireless facility, and they cannot make that we cannot make that finding. We cannot require that of them. And so that is why we're proposing to delete those findings.
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And then go over number 2 again. Why? The if we are allowing them to use a portion of the public right away, the public right away belongs to everybody, right? What? Why couldn't we require them to let someone else use it? Or these just on private land typically
Mr. Chair Supervisor Williams, can you repeat your question? I don't
know so the question number two You know, I see how that could be the case if if if the application is on private land But if it's on the public right-of-way why couldn't we require them that they allow others to Co locate there. It's the public right away. It belongs to everybody and Mr. Chair, yeah people
Supervisor Williams I think what our interpretation was is that this went beyond? What we require in the co look for co-location Which is but maybe there's a structure that you can put your antenna on with another operator But the Montecito Planning Commission didn't limit it to that they were saying sharing antennas and sharing all of these broad things so To us we felt that it was beyond what we required and probably not something that was even technically feasible.
So we believe that the current standards that we have in the code were sufficient to try and achieve what they wanted to do.
If somebody wants to locate in the public quite a way we let their competitor also. Co locate at that spot.
I mean, I think I believe what we just read to you was the standard that says we require co location unless there are certain standards or findings that we make that say they prove to us that it's not possible for them We're not deleting that. This was just additional language that they wanted to add that we thought we had already covered and maybe went into areas that we didn't think we could control.
So if I'm just pulling a name out of the hat, if Verizon wants to put a small residential one on a block, they've got to allow AT&T the opportunity to co-locate it at that spot?
I believe that's the way the code if
it's a public right
away. So that's our that's my understanding of how our code operates right they come in they have we already have the Verizon one ATE comes in. They apply. We ask them to go through this process.
Again, I mean yeah sounds like that meets the spirit of the request.
We tried to explain that to the Montecito Planning Commission, but I'm not sure that they understood that clearly.
Okay, are there any other questions? Are we ready for a motion at this point? I think it's coming from you.
I'll move staff recommendation with the amendment that we reinforce the co-location requirement in the design standards. All right,
before we vote on that motion I just want to make sure do we have any public comment?
Chair Leveny no members of the board. We have no request to speak on this item.
Okay very good so we have a motion.
Second.
Motion and second all those in favor. Aye. Any opposed? Pass unanimously. That takes us to our final item which is D5
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Chair Lavinino, members of the board. Departmental item number five is from the County Executive Office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding fiscal year 2020 through 2021 budget development policies.
Mr. Frapoil we'll give you a second to get strapped in
Well good afternoon Mr. Chair, members of the board. Batting cleanup today is item number five which is our budget development policies for the upcoming fiscal year. Our purpose today is really twofold. It's not only to provide you recommendations with respect to the policies for departments in the county to consider as we develop the next fiscal year's budget, but also to seek your board's direction on any priorities that you may have at this point for consideration during that development process.
Oops, wrong button. Technically challenged. This is our timeline that we've shared with you before that we'll share with you throughout the process but in last month your board considered the five-year forecast and significant fiscal issues report Today we're here in December with the budget development policies April workshops will follow may recommend a budget released and ultimately culminating in June at our budget hearings So our purpose on the forecast was really to set the context for budget development. And our purpose today is to serve, uh, to seek your board's approval of guiding principles for its development.
Specifically as we look at the budget development policies before you these are attached in your board report as attachment A. Um there are four new policies that we are going to be recommending and I'll talk about each one of those individually But largely the policies are similar to what we've had in the previous fiscal year. The four new components that we're recommending for your board's consideration today really are all about promoting greater accountability and transparency for budgeting and accounting, to establish a minimum annual investment toward the county's compliance with the ADA, and to continue the county's investment in critical technology infrastructure projects.
I bring your attention to policy 1E as the first of the four new policies articulated in the document. Specifically, that is to move specific self-funded programs out of the general fund into their own special revenue funds. These three that we'll be talking about are all fee-driven programs. And so setting them aside and pulling them out, and being very clear and deliberate with respect to tracking those revenues and making sure those revenues are not commingled for other purposes really is aided by setting them aside in the Special Revenue Fund.
Our rationale is really to provide greater clarity and transparency for budgeting accounting To be better, more consistent with your board's policy and intent of full cost recovery were feasible. The three departments that we're recommending that we do this for is a portion of the County Clerk Recorder Assessor Department, that's the recorder program within public health, environment health services and for planning development all areas of planning development with the exception Long-range planning is a general governmental service and therefore is funded from general discretionary revenues, not fee revenues.
There's no fiscal impact of this. This is really accounting the budgetary cleanup. Policy 3G is recommended, and that is the elimination of direct charging by central service departments for services provided to special revenue funds to the extent feasible. And incorporate these expenses into the CAP, which CAP being the county cost allocation plan that's developed by the auto controller in compliance with federal regulations.
Our rationale behind this policy is really to provide both clarity and consistency on how costs recovered from Central Service Departments, and improve the predictability of charges from one fiscal year to the next. There are five departments impacted in this proposed policy that's the County Executive Office, Auto Controller, General Services, County Council, and Human Resources.
Again, there's no net fiscal impact to this. It really is just clarification and consistency. Who will receive additional higher cap charges, but that'll be offset 100% by decrease in direct charges from these central services departments. And the Central Service Departments will receive an increased general fund allocation to mitigate the direct charges they had lost. So again no net impact, budgetary impact on this policy change Policy 7C is being recommended.
This establishes a minimum threshold for investment in the county's compliance with Americans with Disabilities Act on our county-owned facilities. General Services, your board funded in the current fiscal year an update of the county's five-year plan Each county is required to do a self-assessment of ADA compliance and develop a prioritization plan for addressing any deficiencies. And so this sets aside a $500,000 threshold to addressing those deficiencies.
The final policy recommended change for your board's consideration today is the establishment of a minimum $2 million investment in our technology replacement and investment fund to address critical countywide and multi-departmental IT project needs. This policy is here to really memorialize the important step that your board took in adopting the current year budget To address the need for technology, to understand the importance of addressing countywide technology so that departments are able to take advantage of new technology as it becomes available.
The impact is a minimum $2 million on discretionary funds. This is consistent with the amount that your board set aside in the current fiscal year. As we're looking at funding strategies for your board's consideration and seeking your input, you'll recall last month as we discussed the five-year forecast of significant fiscal issues report identified fiscal issues that fell into kind of five basic themes.
Legislative and policy changes, deferred maintenance backlog aging technology systems, facility conditions and office reconfiguration, an escalating workers' compensation and general liability insurance premiums. Specifically in that report we talked about seven fiscal issues that are out there on the horizon We talked about the change in policy being the board's directive, general service to move to electric vehicles and our fleet. And so it's our intent to implement that recommendation and move that forward in the upcoming fiscal year. Deferred maintenance obviously we have the 18% policy which will meet and also address additional needs with available one-time monies.
The public safety communication system replacement as we've discussed last month It has a considerable price tag. That RFP is out on the street, consistent with the timeline presented to your board last month and when that price is known we will consider debt financing or combination of financing to address that important project. We know that we have facility improvements and office space reconfiguration needs that are requested by departments.
With available anytime available one-time monies and prioritize those requests that come in from departments. With respect to legacy financial and HR payroll system replacement, this is something that we are continuing to work with there'll be a it's a We're in a business application needs assessment process right now which will then ultimately drive the need to identify the solution to replace our legacy systems And finally on this slide, the last two are department specific to the sheriff and they're the replacement of data center and their records management system. We'll continue to work with the department on those two important initiatives and then try to identify funding in the upcoming fiscal year to address those.
Obviously we have your continued policies and priorities that we will address Within the upcoming budget, which is obviously our northern branch shale operation plan. The fire tax shift, which has achieved a 17%, will continue to meet that requirement. 18% maintenance plan will continue to be funded and obviously any labor agreements and pension payments that the county's obligated to make will be addressed in the recommended budget.
In addition, your board has, we've talked about kind of four other options and the next slide has some lists of specifics. But expanding services in critical high priority areas where those can be afforded through new revenues. Set aside revenue to address future year deficits should a recession materialize. An option is to temporarily increase the strategic reserve within the general fund from an 8% level that it's currently in accordance with your board policy. We could move it temporarily to a 10%. In anticipation of potential recession, we have the option to address one-time needs and capital projects identified in our fiscal issues report.
Finally, as part of our conversation with your board specifically as it related to potential uses of cannabis although it could be any available discretionary revenue is providing funding to match trans patient grants that may be available or applied for by Public Works. To explore providing funds the Human Services Commission for small grants to provide enhancements early childhood education To further enhance the county's cannabis enforcement activities, continue to address at a higher level deferred maintenance needs.
Enhance park infrastructure and finally to provide greater bilingual public outreach So with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions regarding any of the policies or specifically the four new ones we're recommending for your board's consideration today. As well as to take your board's input with respect to priorities that you may have for us to address as we start thinking through the development.
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Will these be created new accounts where we're always looking at the ADA account or the infrastructure, IT infrastructure account? Talking about how much is in there or how's that going to be? No.
So Mr. Chair, I think it's really a combination so I think the ADA is something that if you're should your board approve that is that they will build into the capital projects budget within general services so that won't show up as one of those fund balances. Okay. I do think that within the workshop information we'll have a discussion on the technology investment By time workshops come around in April, we'll have kind of a recap of what we've invested in the current fiscal year and then some projections and priorities for the upcoming investments. So that will be a deliberate conversation, specific conversations we have during workshop. I think that's really important. So
who will make that funding priority as far as, let's say we move forward with the recommendation and there's $2 million set aside minimum a year for IT projects. But then there's obviously more than $2 million of requests out there from departments. Who's going to make that call of where those first ones are taken care of? Mr. Chair I think
That's a multi-step process so I think first and foremost we will be looking to general services at central IT As well as departments may have ideas and requests for that. I think those will be vetted through the county ITC which is the excellent I may get that wrong. Don't worry about it, we don't know what it is anyway. Yeah, the Executive IT Council which is chaired by our office and has representatives of department directors from multiple departments across the county. And so they'll be vetted through that body as recommendations and then that will come ultimately to your boards for
approval. So one of the things that we see a lot of time in budget requests add-ons and those types of things from departments are different IT components. Updates those types of things so we wouldn't see those anymore. They would go to this EITC or whatever and that determination will be made there I think mr.
Chairman, you'll see you could see individual requests for departments first department specific IT needs I think what we're trying to address in this program is those that large at those larger multi-department across all departments Processes okay
infrastructure good surprise Adam Have three issues one is 1e on page 7 and My my Recommendation is especially with respect to public health environmental health services But everybody would be okay with that I You know I think you really got a look at what we're doing and whether or not we need additional because you could lard in all kinds of stuff and say. We don't have enough money will do a cost study and will raise the fees to cover the costs And I think we may have just, I've been having some issues up north lately where I think we've got more help than we need maybe because we're doing things that Are arguable in my opinion and maybe we were okay before we raise the fees now that we've raised the fees We got more money, and we're doing more stuff, and I'm not sure it's To the to the exact benefit of the community rather than just more stuff So I think you got a review that before we just have more cost studies because I know we want to do full-cost recovery but I think we have to do that in a really responsible way instead of Just a blanket, whatever we could potentially do.
We need to just get covered by the fees. 7D question is, is that annually?
Supervisor Abboud and the Chair, obviously these policies are really only applied to next year. And so I think our intent is there will need to be, I think an annual investment much as we do for other infrastructure that we have within the county. But I can't say that's the number in perpetuity. I do believe that there are some key factors that we're going to need to address with respect to IT infrastructure and once those major ones addressed, I think this the number of the dollar amount should be revisited That's at some point.
You know as these are kind of year-over-year budget developments that number can be depending on need out there.
Okay, so then let's go to page 13. We're going to look at the laundry list I think it's 4%. Of you know at the current spending. We're putting 4% in of our 450 I rounded it to 450 because what the heck's 13 million at this point, right? So we're spending around four percent And at that rate, it takes you 50 years to catch up at that point. You'd have to figure out how many years really because of what the future deferral is going to be.
But it just seems like we want to put the EV charging stations and stuff down for half a million bucks. And if we put 4% of that in, it would be $20,000. And so you know just for an example And and it just seems like that's We're not attacking That deferred maintenance at at a rate. That's proportional to the magnitude of the problem and that's always been the case and I'm hoping that at some point we can figure out some kind of a proportionalized way To To prioritize these things I mean obviously take a look down the list further you get the public safety communications. That's not a negotiable item. You have to have that So obviously that gets a higher priority, but some of these things that are nice to have instead of must-have I think should get proportioned out.
We did the 18% formula for a long time here and what we're finding is it's inadequate to even make any kind of a rational We're going to have a meeting with the board of Supervisors and we're going to talk about how we plan to. Solve this problem. But then we don't do that for any of the other stuff so hopefully you guys can come up with some kind of a. Rationalized formulaic so everything gets.
At least
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Back to 7D. What is the scale of the need in relation to that $2 million investment? Just so I have an order of magnitude about what you're, what the total roll-up of the estimated costs are for those technology infrastructure replacement and investment funds.
Supervisor Harth, the Chair, I don't have a good number for you now. I will tell you in my estimation based on kind of just low-hanging fruit that we know we need to address. It would not surprise me if that number exceeds $20 million and so obviously this is not even a two million dollars a year is not sufficient to get there but I think it's an important and again to the extent that we don't spend a full 2 million dollars a year to send that rolls over and then becomes And we can discuss that as part of the workshop so that we know where we're getting to. I think that by the time we are sitting here next year, we'll have a better kind of roadmap of what's out there and identification of the needs and initiatives we need to put in place. So again, I'm pretty much pulling a number that is a little fuzzy, so I'm a little uncomfortable with that but I will tell you that's not an over exaggeration.
That's just what I was looking for, sort of an order-of-magnitude scale point. Supervisor Hartman?
Oh, I just wanted to go back to the deferred maintenance. We're looking at this as a general fund contribution. If I remember wasn't there a policy where we were projecting to try to get to $100 million over 10 years and if we take in the SB1 money then we're about $40 million at 2020 so we are making at least some progress on what we had projected
Supervisor Hartman, the Chair. You know I don't have those numbers in front of me. We have overlaid when this plan was originally kind of developed and what we what was projected to be the investment against that deferred maintenance overlayed that with how much we have put in there both a combination of ongoing general fund dollars as well as the amount of one-time discretionary dollars that were available to apply to that SB 1 certainly helps when the original 18% plan was adopted by your board that SB 1 revenue was not there. So clearly, that helps address the shortfall but they're clear that we don't have a solid finance of plan that gets us all the way to where we need so we know we have more need I think that it has been your boards priority I think we tried to reflect that in the recommended budgets for the last few years that I've been here.
And so we'll continue to treat that as a priority.
Can I, I just need to add because Supervisor Hart has these statistics down better than I but I mean our roads are both a local state and federal responsibility and so this makes it seem like it's all on us and our general fund and I just want to state that that's not my view
Well, I'm glad you brought this because it gave us another opportunity to discuss this outside of the budget hearing so Supervisor Adam.
Well SB 1 wasn't didn't exist at the time So I don't think that was in the 18% formula and yes You get contribution but your citizens have to drive on these roads if they don't get a You know it's not anybody from anybody else. I don't know no other jurisdictions suffer for for having our roads and ultimately when When they fail, and let's just say for argument sake that they all failed at the same time and we didn't have roads and couldn't get public safety to the places they needed to go.
And worst case scenario still it's just us that suffers. It's nobody from anywhere else. There's that
optimism, hope stuff we were talking about. All right, Supervisor Hart?
Well I don't want to go back into a Groundhog Day discussion about this. The point is well taken that we need more money to address our deferred maintenance shortfall and everybody agrees on that but how we do it is the challenge and you know there's a lot of different ideas about that so we'll save that for the budget deliberations. But I thought I would add something to the mix. I mean, number one, I just want to put my voice forward about increasing the strategic reserve. I think that's a really good idea given the uncertainty of the future and you know that's something that's going to take some time as well and is another big item.
The- I appreciate you including the greater bilingual public outreach on the list of things to potentially use additional funding for And to add to that list, I think that in the Department of Behavioral Wellness there's gonna be a need to look at continuing funding source for the Assisted Outpatient Treatment Program which is ending its three year pilot at the end of this fiscal year and will need to be evaluated. And obviously there needs to be prioritization within department but I know that something that many folks in the community are very interested in seeing retained.
Supervisor Williams?
Well, I think both of those priorities are important ones. The greater bilingual public outreach is something we should be thinking about and I don't think that's a bank brainer. I do think that and same thing goes with the a T program that's been done pretty efficiently. I definitely you know to me. I mean, obviously SB1 is the increased opportunity. We're not scaling back our 18% because of this SB1 but we shouldn't stop there. You've definitely won that victory where we agree that we shouldn't stop there so I think the next great opportunity is if we reach fruition with a certain settlement, Repairing the roads in the disaster area is within the confines of that and if there was road repair that didn't happen elsewhere Because of all the attention in the disaster area.
I think that should maybe be in the realm of possibilities, too so, I mean I think that that is A way to address this From in a more substantive way than Just squirreling away a little in the general fund here and there. In terms of the priorities that we put out there, I think we did do a motion for active transportation grants. I think that's a good use of one-time monies.
It is infrastructure, it's needed infrastructure to increase safety and decrease car pedestrian And bike conflicts. To Andy Caldwell's point, we need to do more of them as DG projects and less as expensive and high carbon sidewalk projects. But my hope is that we not only can use that to leverage grants but in some cases there's going to be projects that are really needed but where we didn't get the grant.
And I do think that is an important thing to prioritize and we definitely, the last time we talked about that, we had three folks supportive of it. So I hope we'll continue to do that work. I definitely am supportive of the electric vehicle charging infrastructure and I have reached out to the city on a way to accomplish Mr. Hart's priority of how to make some of it available for the public And the city managers said that they would be open to us using sidewalk portions for some of those.
So we just need to have general services ask for permission to do that, but he said he would be very open to that. That way we would have some public charging infrastructure as part of any retooling there. And so, I hope we'll go ahead with that. Our budget director is being creative with very different requests from different departments on technology to create a technology fund and therefore help us prioritize limited funds.
I'm intrigued by this enhancements to early childhood education. I'm sure that came from first five. I would, I think want to know how we could do something on that because I do think those kinds of investments really pay dividends in the long run for less public safety problems and other things but we need to know how it's a discrete amount of money and not You know, an unending need right? I mean it you could really do a lot in this subject matter. The question is how can we do a little in this subject matter and Yeah, I think that's those are the things that are definitely on my priority list.
Supervisor Hartman
Yeah, I just had a question about the strategic reserve and the 8% versus the 10%. What is generally... Are there general amounts or percentages that are considered appropriate?
Supervisor Hartman through the chair. So there are number of kind of independent resources we look at and seek guidance from GFOA which is the Government Finance Office Association which is a nationwide organization that really focuses on fiscal policy would suggest that a 10 to 15% strategic reserve would be appropriate. And again, it's a little difficult because in their general guidance they're talking about available reserves in totality We in Santa Barbara County and most counties that I'm familiar with we kind of Put things in buckets.
And so in total, we probably are closer to the 15% but strategic reserve is that reserve which Is your words first go-to should we have a major disaster? Which we did during the debris flow and the Thomas fire and so fortunate was there it was a resource for us to address those higher than expected costs, so It's kind of the idea of increasing to 10% would be it's kind of a holding place. Should the recession hit in the following fiscal year or beyond, it'd be available to be the first buffer if you will and lost revenues that are recession based. So that's kind of the idea, perhaps increasing that from 8% to 10%, at least on a temporary basis. CEO Miyasato?
Supervisor, so this issue has come up in the past and one thing is if we are going to issue debt, one thing we always are mindful of is our rating agencies will look to see whether we're following our own policies, at least that we have the 8% there. And so I think what Jeff was saying too, if we get into a situation where there is an economic downturn and And we do issue debt, we want to make sure there's some buffer. So it's a balancing game right now. We're just looking out into the future like all possible but I'm also of the camp Supervisor Adams that if we have deferred maintenance and things that we should be spending on, you know, we should be spending on those things.
Cool.
Very good. Okay see no other lights. Ms. Frappo are y'all good? Okay anybody want to make a motion What do we got here?
I will make a motion to receive. We're receiving and filing, right?
Providing direction. Provide
direction. Did we provide direction?
Supervisors some of you provided input as to what your priorities are not everybody did but we will get that information. We'll take the information that we have and we'll put together numbers and come back to you in April at the workshops. Second.
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We have a motion, second. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay so that takes us to the end of this meeting we will adjourn and to December 17th in Santa Maria for our last meeting of the year