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I'll call to order the May 12, 2020 meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. Will the clerk please call the roll?
Mr. Lavinino?
Here.
Mr. Williams?
Here.
Ms. Hartman? Here. Mr. Adam?
I am here.
Chair Hart?
Agenda Discussionitems moved / continued / pulled, click to expand
The next item on the agenda is the approval of the minutes of May 15th 2020. Is there any discussion about the minutes? If not could someone please make a motion? So moved. Second. Motion's been made and seconded. Madam Clerk would you please call the roll?
Mr. Lavinino?
Aye.
Mr. Williams? Aye. Ms. Hartman? Aye, Mr. Adam?
Aye
Chair Hart?
Aye
Motion passes unanimously
CEO Miyasato is there a CEO report today
no report this morning
thank you and madam clerk are there any announcements or changes to our agenda today
Chair Hart and members of the board, again I'd also like to thank you for your patience this morning while we were working through some technical difficulties. I do have just a couple announcements this morning. I did want to remind the public on page two of our agendas, we have an important notice regarding public participation and please read through that if For the alternative methods of participation and just a reminder if you'd like to speak during
public comment whether that's on an item on today's agenda or general public comment. To call the clerk of the board's office, and that number should be scrolling on your TV now at area code 805-568-2240. Please state your name, your phone number and which item you'd like to speak on. And the clerk will call you at the appropriate time. And additionally my last announcement for the board today is we posted an addendum on Friday to our agenda for today May 12th. And we added Administrative Item 16 which is from Public Health to consider recommendations regarding an ordinance increasing Emergency Medical Services EMS agency fees for emergency medical technician EMT certification EMT recertification and paramedic accreditation. And this is the second reading.
In addition to that amendment, we amended departmental item number one to include an additional recommendation which is now recommendation B. This is from the county executive office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a coronavirus disease 2019 COVID-19 update. And recommendation B reads send a letter to Governor Gavin Newsom and the California Department of Public Health CDPH regarding variance readiness criteria and requesting exclusion of cases from the federal prison complex in Lompoc. And those are all my announcements this morning.
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Thank you, Madam Clerk.
The next item is approval of the administrative agenda. Do any board members request to pull any items from the administrative agenda? Supervisor Williams.
Well, I think because of its relevance to what we're going through. I do think we should pull a one.
OK,
A1
any other items board members would like to pull from the administrative agenda? OK, seeing none, Madam Clerk, would you please read item A1 to the record?
Chair Hart and members of the Board Administrative Item number one is an honorary resolution sponsored by Supervisor Williams and Supervisor Hart It is to adopt a resolution proclaiming the month of May 2020 as Mental Health Month in Santa Barbara County.
Supervisor Williams, did you want
to? Well I just wanted to invite Director Gleghorn up here but the reason why I pulled it of course is because one Secondary effects that we really need to take seriously in the coronavirus is its effect on mental health of everyone in our society. We want to make sure that there is adequate support systems so that we do not have an undue amount of suffering You know, takes place in our society and wanted to turn it over to Director Gleghorn to maybe give us the expert view.
Thank you for pulling this item. Supervisor Williams, the chair.
Fortunately today we are going to have a few slides on the coronavirus update that will go more in depth on the impact of These circumstances on our services over the past couple of months. And we'll also go into some of the resources that are available, both for the folks who already are associated with our services and for the community at large. But just want to remind folks that during times of crisis, And we need to pay attention to those impacts on our mental well-being and make sure that we're taking care of ourselves. So, we'll talk a little bit more about some of those strategies during the presentation but thank you for this declaration and appreciate your participation in our work.
Thank you for that important message and look forward to your presentation on the next item. Is there a motion to approve the administrative agenda?
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So moved.
Second
motion's been made and seconded any discussion? Madam Clerk, would you please call the roll?
Mr. Lavinino?
Aye.
Mr. Williams? Aye. Ms. Hartman? Aye! Mr. Adam? Aye Chair Hart? Aye Motion passes unanimously
Now's the time for members of the public to speak on items that are not on our agenda. Madam Clerk, are there any requests to speak on this item?
Chair Hart and members of the board, yes we have four requests to speak on general public comment. We have one letter to be read into the record and then we will go to three public comment on the phone.
Thank you.
We will now go to a letter from Leslie Weinstock, Physician Assistant on 5G Free Santa Barbara Executive Committee. You take an oath of office to protect the community which includes our right to be safe from physical and mental injury, to enjoy a safe and clean environment, and to be free from government and corporate surveillance. 4G, 5G multiplies the amount of radiation we are exposed to by 10 to 100,000 times And is a threat to our health, safety, well-being, privacy and choice.
Peer reviewed studies link RF radiation to cancer, DNA damage, headaches, insomnia, fatigue, cognitive impairment, depression and anxiety. Switzerland, Italy, France, Israel, Russia and China have set RF exposure limits 100 to 10,000 times less than the US. 4G, 5G adds huge financial cost to the county and creates multi-billion dollar financial gain to the telecom industry.
New wireless facilities are unnecessary and harmful. The simple solution, fiber optic directly to our homes and offices. It's faster, more reliable, less susceptible to hacking with no health risks. We urge you to create an immediate moratorium on all wireless installations and create a protective ordinance. If there is a gap in coverage, only safe wired internet infrastructure should be allowed with strict oversight of the planning departments and commissions to halt approval of all applications and contracts for wireless installations.
We request to get on your agenda and meet with your attorney and our attorneys to collaborate, to write the moratorium. And modify county ordinances 5093, 5094, 5095, and resolution 19-319 passed December 10th 2019. Thank
you Ms. Weinstock.
Chair Hart, members of the board we are now going to Katie Mickey on the phone to be followed by Miriam Lindbeck. Okay, Katie, you're next.
A little action on the behalf of Halting Fire Team within the county. Katie? Katie? Okay, Katie, go ahead. Dear Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors, I am a Santa Barbara business owner of 30 years and have been a Painted Cave resident of four-and-a-half years, retreating from high density of nonionizing radio frequency surrounding my previous downtown apartment that prevented me from being able to sleep at night.
I was a chronic insomniac. Last week, I requested that you place a moratorium on all wireless infrastructure installations and enact protective measures to our current ordinance. You made inquiry with our county attorney, and were informed that the FCC preempts your authority to do so. Today I return to inform you that your hands are not tied! Congress specifically preserves power to local governments to regulate the placement of wireless facilities Reference to Telecommunications Act Section 47 U.F.C. 332 C7A.
The reason it is important that you regulate the placement of wireless facilities is that the FCC does virtually nothing to actually apply the limits that they set. As a general rule, the FCC never tests wireless facilities And never requires the owners to test them. So local governments are the first and only line of defense against their constituents being exposed to illegally excessive levels of radiation emanating from wireless facilities in their jurisdiction.
Low density RFR in our county is a priceless treasure that I call on you to preserve and protect through an immediate moratorium on all wireless infrastructure installations and modification of our current ordinance. Thank you, Katie Mickey, Director of the Santa Barbara Body.
Thank you Ms. Mickey.
And we will now go to Marion Limbeck to be followed by Renee O'Neill.
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Dear County Board of Supervisors, good morning. I am Miriam Lindebach, co-chair of the 5G3 Santa Barbara Executive Committee. I have been injured by wireless radiation. A few of my symptoms—daily migraine headaches, dizziness, nausea, ringing in my ears, loss of coordination, loss of immediate memory, irritability to name a few—have compounded and accumulated My doctor has dismissed me saying there is nothing wrong with me, that there is nothing he can do.
In reading a Swedish study about the impact of EMS on health I found not only what is wrong with me but found an actual diagnosis. Since then I have read hundreds of independent studies verifying these findings. I am electromagnetically sensitive an ADA-recognized disability, which develops from overexposure to daily wireless radiation. I live every day wearing shielded clothing to protect me from said radiation. I eliminate it as much as possible, sleep under a Faraday canopy, hardwire my computer and cannot use the cell phone.
These measures have made a significant difference in my health though I am now sensitized to wireless for the rest of The potential of having hundreds, even thousands of micro and macro wireless facilities in close proximity in every zone emitting multiple and increased overlaying frequencies 24-7 365 will force me to run for my life. If telecom has their way within a few years there will be no safe place on earth to go.
As local authorities who hold the health and safety of your residents and the environment in your hands, it is imperative and your duty to verify that legally your hands are not tied. To uphold your oath of office if even a few speak out against this 5G rollout you have an obligation to investigate those objections. Your hands are not tied. You hold my life And we will now go to our final speaker, Renee O'Neill.
Good morning, Supervisors. It was kind of ironic that your meeting was so delayed because I lost internet and was practically trying to get some connection to this hearing or meeting and apparently I don't get channel 20 on my DISH satellite, so I'm going to have to figure all this out for a backup. Anyway, first of all, I want to support all the comments that came in about 5G free And I also am very concerned about that issue. The other and most important reason I am calling in this morning is because I want to let the county know that in the last five weeks, there have been various cannabis associated vehicles Trafficking through our property and on Tepeskay Road.
In five weeks, I have recorded and documented 500 vehicle trips going through our property. The cannabis traffic in Tepeskay has been so horrific that this is now a conversation that is going on community email list, Chepuske specific. This is conversation that is going on our community Facebook page. There are so many people that have reported the escalation in cannabis traffic in our canyon that it has...
Sorry, I have a hard time not getting upset about this issue. It has inspired me to write a letter to the state governing authorities. That is going to say one of the paragraphs that I have a working document going, it has become blatantly apparent to me that the only way some of these cannabis moguls in our community can be prohibited from continuing this abuse of cannabis regulations is to have Our county and state and federal legislators, I'm sorry, federal and state legislators get involved in this because our county isn't wielding the authority that they have to weigh in on this.
Wanting the extensions that are coming up on these provisional multiple provisional licenses in our community. I want the state to deny them. Apparently, our county may not be communicating the level of concern to the state board authorities CalCanada. I would really appreciate if our supervisors would look into this. Would give some serious consideration of what's going on out here.
My driveway was not intended to be a commercial trafficked road, so when you think about this, you have 500 vehicles going through your driveway in five weeks? Just please consider the level of stress that adds to not only my life but our entire community's lives.
Thank you, Ms. O'Neill.
And that was our final speaker on general public comment.
Thank you. The next item is Department Item No. 1. Would the clerk please read that item into the record?
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Chair Hart and members of the Board, Departmental Item No.1 is from the County Executive Office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a coronavirus disease 2019 COVID-19 update.
Good morning chair and board members. Today we have quite a lengthy presentation and it's to respond to lots of questions we've had from board members in the community So there's before we start, there's three things I'd like to discuss. One is so the agenda today will be talking about enforcement and we have the district attorney in the sheriff here are public health department doctor Dover know. So we'll be talking about just an update of where we are in the governor's criteria will be providing information to you on We'll be talking about the flu and how that relates to COVID. And that was a request from a board member, and Dr. Ansorg our public health officer is here today and he'll be doing that as Dr. Gluckhorn talked about she'll be giving present presentation of information about mental health and where we are and what we've been doing in the community.
And then Nancy Anderson assistant CEO will be talking a little bit about our reopening plan. But before we go into that, there's a few things I just want to remind everyone about where we are in the process. And I know that Chair Hart has been saying this at our press conferences but I just wanted to take a few minutes to reiterate that. As we all know, the governor is making the decisions about when all of us can return to our normal lives, when the restrictions of the stay-at-home order can be loosened.
The Governor and the State Department of Public Health. And on Friday, he made a small step towards loosening but it's not gone far enough for many in our community. On Thursday, the State Department of Public Health released criteria that will allow counties to loosen a little bit more. Not fully, but a little bit more if they can meet certain criteria. And as we've heard from our public health department, we don't meet that criteria.
And so she will go over that and what criteria we do meet. The second thing I wanted to point out is as Ms. Alexander said, we changed the agenda on Friday because we're requesting the board send a letter to the governor asking that we have more discretion in this criteria and part of that they allow us to exclude cases from the Lompoc prison In part of our attestation numbers. So I wanted to give a little bit of context, there's a lot of information going around and Dr. Doronosa will talk a little bit more about that in her presentation but because we wanted to start out with enforcement because I know the district attorney and the sheriff have other commitments this morning so we'll start with them.
Welcome Sheriff Brown thank you for being here
Thank you Chair Hart and thank all of you for inviting me and the District Attorney to come and reemphasize a very important aspect to this situation that we're all in, enforcement of the law. The law is very clear that once the Governor and the Public Health Officer invoked special powers And invoked conditions in health orders to contain the spread of virulent and potentially deadly COVID-19 virus.
The Sheriff's Office and other local law enforcement agencies became responsible for enforcing those orders. It's not a question of whether or not we agree with some of those orders, or something that has the force of law. We are law enforcement officers and we are duty bound to enforce the law. But let me be very clear our approach to how we do that in the Sheriff's Office and the approach of each of our police departments in our county is the same.
We are committed to being long on engagement, education, persuasion and encouragement and short on actual enforcement tactics. We try whenever possible to get people to understand the situation and to voluntarily comply with the law. If such compliance is not achieved we have an array of options available to us. We can enlist the aid of state and local licensing authorities to help us achieve compliance.
We can ask the county council to issue a cease and desist notice, we can write a report and send it to the district attorney and request prosecution. We can also issue a citation to appear in court to answer charges or if all else fails, we can make a physical arrest. That would be a last resort and it's something that we would employ only in egregious or repeated offenses.
Our primary concern is to safeguard lives and property, and that includes stopping actions that jeopardize the health and safety of others. But we cannot be, and we are not blind to the negative impact that these orders are having on our community, to the suffering that is being experienced And we understand that in many cases, livelihoods, life savings and the hopes and dreams of many members of our community are at stake.
Fortunately, the good news is that since this pandemic began, we have been able to obtain the cooperation and compliance of members of our community in almost every instance where compliance has been called into question. The people of Santa Barbara County are to be commended for their understanding of why these orders had to be issued Why the orders continue and we need to thank them for their near universal adherence to them.
I also want to thank all of our county's law enforcement officers for the remarkable understanding, patience and discretion that they have exercised in the limited number of noncompliance complaints that we have received. The governor said in his press conference remarks on Friday That while some counties may accelerate through the process by attesting to certain conditions, all remaining counties will be moved forward together at the appropriate time.
He also indicated that we are weeks not months from moving into the next stage of reopening California. There will no doubt have to be more modifications to how we have traditionally lived our lives and done business. And that includes how we in the law enforcement profession do business. But there does appear to be light at the end of the tunnel and I encourage everyone in our community, especially our business owners and their employees to hang in there support one another to the extent that we can have a little more patience and fortitude and look beyond the moment two brighter days ahead together As we have done so many times before when disaster has struck us, we are going to get through this.
Thank you, Sheriff Brown for that very important message. Are there any questions for the sheriff while he's here?
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Supervisor Williams. Well one issue that has come up in my district, well two issues that have come up in my district but It brings to light an issue that some other jurisdictions have, which is the ability of law enforcement to make temporary parking restrictions for public safety. And I would just ask you what do you need from us in order That power, because I do think that this brings to light really the need to have some nimbleness and ability to maybe right now these weekends are overcast. It might not be necessary but there will be some sunny ones ahead where it might be.
And so I just want to get an idea what we should be doing to make enforcement of that social distancing possible.
Well, thank you for the question Supervisor Williams through the chair. The vehicle code and other ordinances are specific that if parking violations are to be enforced there has to be some kind of warning or signage that is put up generally in certain areas. There are some exclusions to that if roads are being blocked or If there are other obstacles, for example the width of a lane not enough to get a fire truck through.
But with respect to actually putting up temporary no parking signs as has been requested And certain areas of the county, particularly at some of the trailheads and other places where there's been a lot of activity. Above average level of activity in parking has been an issue in some cases. It would be beneficial I think if we could as a county look into what some municipalities do And that is to pass an ordinance that essentially would give the authority in this case to the sheriff. To temporarily put up no parking signs in areas where there are congestion problems and issues.
This has done, as I say, in some cities. I was a police chief in Lompoc. It was something we did there. I think it would be at least worth taking a look and seeing if that's something that could be done rather than say we have a problem in area X We need to do something about it. We need to write a staff report, we need to get a resolution and it takes two, three, four weeks let's say to get it done by that time the problem may have subsided and may no longer be an issue so I think it would be worth it perhaps to ask County Council maybe to look into that and see if that is a possibility for us to do.
public works about the need for at very least to be doing temporary two-hour parking in some areas. I'm not talking about closing off parking that has been shown, we tried that at Rincon and it really didn't work very well according to our sheriff's personnel. So, but they have not been able to enact it. We briefly got to get up a flashing sign and that's about all that's happened. And it gives the community the sense that we're not ready for the possibility of big weekends.
I am not on the bandwagon for closing off beaches. I mean, I think when people lose their jobs and have a hard time staring at their kids in the face when they can't provide for them, telling them they can't go to the beach when it may not be necessary is not the right thing to do. We know that transmission outside has not been documented in a really clear manner despite A lot of press attention to one person's, expert's opinion.
But I do think that it is important that we take some measures to address crowding and so I guess my conclusion is I hate to ask for an ordinance to do that but if that's what's necessary I would be asking for an ordinance to be brought before us.
Supervisor Hartman?
I just wanted to ask for greater clarification from Supervisor Williams. I have also had comments from state parks about the parking on county roads for access to those parks, but you said that you wanted shorter parking for two-hour intervals to create greater turnover or do you want fewer people crowded in parking lots? What is the objective?
The objective is to have people not camp out all day long or all weekend long, which exacerbates crowding, trash and so forth. And I think that it's more consistent with what adjacent jurisdictions are doing as well. City of Carpinteria has been doing two hour parking. Ventura has been asking people to sort of use the beach but as a mobile activity. Not really sure how they're enforcing that, but I do think that it would discourage people from hanging out all day which would improve crowding situations.
Well let's keep going with the presentation. We'll hold on to this issue and at the end we can wrap it up with a motion for all the things that we want to accomplish today. Thank you again Sheriff Brown for coming today and making presentations
Thank you, Chair. Could I just add one last comment and that is that we did have when the beaches in Southern California were closed we did have the following weekend some problems and issues with overcrowding parking lot issues as Supervisor Williams mentioned since that time we have had a strong presence on the beaches and at the parking areas And have seen, have not seen that same level of problems and issues. And with talk now about beaches in Los Angeles reopening and in Orange County reopening there was some concern that we were getting a lot of out-of-town people that were coming in. No doubt we were getting some that were coming up here. That doesn't seem to be the case as much anymore and it seems as though things are getting back to more of a normal type state in terms of who's accessing and using the beaches.
So the good news is that people do seem to be adhering to it. The suggestion has been, look if you're going somewhere and then the parking is overflowing think about going somewhere else. And I think that's working to an extent. Again, I just can't say enough how much I really want to commend the people of Santa Barbara County for taking this seriously in all aspects of how we're adapting to these terrible situation that none of us are happy with and like, but I think that the conditions have improved on the beaches and on the parking lots over the last weekend. And prospectively, I suspect that they will continue to get better.
Thank you, Sheriff Brown. Supervisor Williams? Well I agree. I witnessed myself that very even though the beach was very heavy used this weekend there were in most cases really adequate social distancing people being responsible but this is also cyclical on weather right I mean you know coronavirus has not changed the basic fact that It gets cold in May and June here, unless people go to the beach. And then it gets hot again in July and August, and more people go to the beach.
That's generally a pattern that holds but we don't know. It doesn't always hold that way. Sometimes the June gloom lifts early. I do think that it would be good for us to have systems in place A situation where we have a lot of people on a sunny weekend, and a lot of issues from it. And I just don't think that two hour parking is really as much of an intrusion of government interference as all the other options. I think that's a really reasonable interference to diminish crowding as opposed to other more drastic solutions.
Okay, thank you. Again I think we'll hold all these thoughts to the end of the presentations and then we can deliberate them on. Thank you again Chair Brown for coming. I think the next person on our schedule is District Attorney Dudley. Thank you also for being here today.
Thank you, Chair Hart. I'm here today with the Chief Deputy District Attorney John Savernach and John has been on a call for the last seven weeks discussing how will the district attorney's office respond to orders by our governor, our health officer along with the sheriff's department so for the specifics John is happy to respond to that what i can tell you in terms of the district attorney's office is our philosophy remains the same We will evaluate any case sent to us by all our local law enforcement agencies, and we will determine whether we should file those charges or not. What I've been saying since the beginning of COVID is my greatest priority. My greatest concern are the crimes that were not hearing about the in-home crimes. That is domestic violence, spousal rape, child elder and animal abuse.
So those cases are getting particular attention, and that would be my response to how the district attorney's office Has altered or changed in terms of COVID-19. Happy to answer any questions.
And thank you very much for your leadership and highlighting those important issues that is tragic that folks do not feel comfortable coming forward at this point in time. Are there any questions for District Attorney Dudley? Supervisor
Williams You have, you've mentioned it in your public statements but I just want to give you an opportunity The rise of, in your belief and I trust your opinion in domestic violence cases as people are spending more time bivouac together. Could you talk about just what we can do as people, as decision makers and as a community in that regard?
Thank you Supervisor Williams. I've now been in the district attorney's office for 30 years, so I'm acutely aware of domestic violence and all the other in-home crimes I've discussed during the first week when we had the shelter in place We had a 21% increase in calls out to domestic violence. I expected it and hoped it would stay at that number, unfortunately what we're now seeing is just the opposite which terrifies me. We're getting less reports about domestic violence, less reports about elder abuse, child abuse and the reason for that as you suggested is what shelter-in-place means to our community. What that means is that households are under tremendous amount of stress right now.
They're worried about money, they're worried about employment. They're worried about the life that they had before COVID-19. Children are home from school, parents are worried about them not getting the right education. Some families don't have internet so children are missing out on an opportunity to have the Zoom classrooms. So again stress level rises. When people's stress level rise one of the things they do in the immediate Presence of their children and their families, they start engaging in abusing alcohol and drugs. When there's stress plus alcohol and drugs we see a rise in in-home violence.
Unfortunately because the same people are inside, the people who normally report these cases to law enforcement and therefore we can act upon it are not reporting. Mandated reporters don't have contact with their children anymore, with their elders anymore. So the situation screams out for the fact that we have to figure out alternative ways to help. Many people who are stuck inside their homes are intimidated by the perpetrators and scared of making that phone call, so they don't. So now more than ever, we have to be a community of neighbors. We have to care about each other.
As the sheriff and I have been saying repeatedly, if you see something here something or even send something call 911. And the district attorney's office since COVID-19 has set up a victim witness 24 hour seven day a week bilingual hotline so people who are in any way uncomfortable calling 911 can call and speak to one of our victim advocates at 805-568-2400.
And I guess the main message is just because you're out of sight doesn't mean you're out of our hearts or out of our minds. Thank you.
Thank you for that very important message. The next presentation will be from Dr. Henning-Anzorg, the county's public health officer. Dr. Anzorg?
Let me just, before Dr. Anzorg does this, so this portion is really in response to some questions that we got last week and then We weren't able to provide the information to the public, so now Dr. Ansorg is going to go over that and before he does I just want to note that in your board packet or on posting was a letter from the Central Coast Medical Association which is the physicians of the central coast about 600 physicians commending and thanking Dr. Ansorg as well as Dr. Bornstein. So just wanted to acknowledge his work.
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Thank you CEO Miyasato. That's important to recognize.
Dr. Ansorg welcome Good morning Supervisor Hart and members of the board. I think Supervisor Adam requested a couple of comparisons between the traditional influenza and this new COVID-19 virus, Our epidemiology team tried their best to extract the data requested. The problem with that is that traditionally Influenza data are measured or reported in a very different way than the COVID data. COVID is so new that COVID cases always tested, we always have a test result and there is not a lot of question about the validity of any case number. When we're talking about influenza however The vast majority of diagnoses that are made across the country, across the world by primary care physicians, emergency rooms, any kind of medical provider is sort of like yeah this is like the flu.
Meaning, I just counted we have 71 ICD-10 codes which is a code that a doctor uses to document the visit and bill for the visit that can be used for something like the flu. 71 different diagnosis codes identified. Now if we go, and the reason why I'm going so far away from the graph is just to give it a little bit of background. All our data that we have on influenza are surveillance data and not really measured tests at all. So if somebody were to Google how many die from influenza in 2018 or something you get a horrendous number This number, however, are not measured or lab confirmed cases of the influenza virus at all.
What those numbers are, are surveillance data and they're actually only approximated data to sort of give a picture of a potential true burden of a disease And this disease is not the infection with one particular virus, the influenza virus. But with a whole slew of different pathogens and therefore it's very difficult to compare influenza data with these really hard COVID data that we have right now. This is just as a background information.
So when we look at this graph here, we went through our local vital statistics records and per death certificates we could identify seven deaths in the last few months due to flu. This does not mean they were actually confirmed influenza per lab test, but this is what gets reported on death certificates. Filling out a death certificate is quite a challenging chore for any physician and as an example for instance if somebody has long-standing chronic lung disease from having smoked a long time or from occupational hazards and so forth, and then develops an influenza-like syndrome and dies from this. Now it's really difficult to determine for the physician, well did this guy die actually from his longstanding lung disease?
Or did he die from a virus or from a bacterium? So therefore, any mention on the death certificate of influenza-like illness will be counted as flu. With COVID it's different. COVID has to be the cause of death. So we have had seven deaths in three months over in Santa Barbara County per our death certificate registry, and we had now 11 deaths of COVID in one month.
Next slide please. This was an attempt to plot influenza cases versus COVID cases. As you see, there is no individual influenza case. There is no way to extract those data because influenza is not a reportable disease. COVID is a reportable disease like tuberculosis or gonorrhea or measles. So if we wanted to compare COVID, one reportable disease to another reportable disease, we could have plotted this but unfortunately with influenza it's not possible due to lack of those data.
Next slide please. This was a question with regard to, so how many people do really recover from COVID? And our recovery rate locally is quite good. This orangey sort of graph shows COVID diagnosis and the blue line shows recovery, and there's a very faint gray line at the very bottom which shows deaths. So we had 11 deaths and that's why it's not so significant compared to the over 1,000 cases that we've had in Santa Barbara County since March 15th when we have the first case.
Next slide please. And this is the date of times when these deaths were recorded. The blue lines are all one individual death with the date for influenza-like illness, and the orange lines are COVID deaths worth a notice that two on there are actually missing on the graph. I apologize for that. Next slide, please. Age of death on an average in influenza very high.
Definitely compared to COVID the average COVID death there was a little bit of text underneath this slide My recollection is mid-60s for COVID as an average age of death and 89 as an average death for influenza like illness in Santa Barbara County. Is there another slide? No, it's fine. Thank you. All right. So just to wrap it up a little bit, two boxes here is COVID just fancy influenza by no means? The reason for that is that We look at a virus, at how infectious it is. That means one infected person can infect on average will infect a certain number of other people. The statistical number is called R naught, R with the zero and that's reproduction number for any virus.
For COVID-19, it is anywhere between two and 2 1⁄2 which means one sick individual on average will affect two or 2 1⁄2 other people with the virus. With influenza, it is 1.2 to 1.4 so anybody who is infected with the virus will statistically speaking spread it to 1 .2 to Next is fatality rate. Fatality rate varies greatly from region to region. The United States, COVID currently we have a fatality rate of 5.7%.
However there are pockets and hotbeds in the country where fatality rates are higher and areas where fatality rate is lower. Fortunately California has a fatality rate right now at about 4%. Fatality rate for influenza is anywhere between 0.01 to 0.1%, which is, of course, significantly lower. I'm not playing influenza down but it just doesn't compare to COVID-19 in terms of fatalities, in terms of reproduction number and meaning how infectious this virus is.
Now influenza has been around for a very long time and even though the influenza virus mutates from year to year, at least half of it has been around before. So there is at least a partial immunity to any influenza virus out there in the population Partial immunity sometimes is all it takes to have only a mild cause of disease and get over it as opposed to requiring hospitalization, developing really severe illness and so forth.
Otherwise for influenza, we do have a vaccine. It is not foolproof. Nobody is saying that but it does protect to a good degree and we have actually medications available like Tamiflu and others that can be taken orally to shorten the course of influenza case. COVID-19, everybody knows we don't have a vaccine. Medications are in experimental state at the moment.
The most promising seems to be the convalescent serum from people that donate blood after they have recovered from this disease and the antibodies in their blood can be used to help really sick people. This is being done at Cottage and at Marion Hospital. Yeah, just you know I've been a clinician for the quarter of a century for sure and I've yet to see or recall a lot of patients that have actually died from influenza. I've had a fair share of patients who had to be hospitalized from influenza and got really ill COVID-19 definitely gets our attention.
If we would do nothing, we would have a situation like Northern Italy which was really horrific. They had completely unprotected healthcare system being bombarded with cases in late February And within two weeks, an area of the population like the Central Coast 1.2 million people all of a sudden had more than 10,000 cases and 2,500 deaths within two-and-a-half weeks and their health infrastructure collapsed. Similar scenarios did happen in New York City not to that extent But very scary. Fortunately, in California we did protect the public at a very early state and so far have been able to keep the numbers relatively low.
I'm more than happy to answer any questions there may be. Thank you Dr. Ansberg that's very
helpful. Are there questions from the board?
I have some questions.
Supervisor
Adam? Dr. Ansorg, let's go back to slide 20 please. Now, I can't see whether or not that's up. I'm assuming it is. My information as of this morning and I assume that this thing is current as of today or yesterday This slide 20. You've had 8,817 tests and you've had 1,362 positives which is only 15%. Does that sound about right to you?
Sorry I couldn't really catch your numbers. Are they written down somewhere?
Well there's the numbers that are on your website right now There's a little, almost 9000 tests have been done and just short of 1400 positives is what you've got so far which is around 15%.
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Well, this includes a federal prison where asymptomatic people were screened. So we would have to distract that in order to get like true community number. We cannot go with the 1400 tests.
Okay, but I'm just trying to establish kind of some rough order of magnitude here. That's the information that we all have to work with on your website So I don't know whether the asymptomatics were included in that or not. But I'm just saying that even if you had included asymptomatics, it's not like they're not actual people that had it. If you were out there in the community testing, you'd probably find that there's more asymptomatics but we're not testing like that so we don't know.
I don't think that's going to negatively impact the rate. The 15% is a number that it just is, those are the numbers you have up on your site and so my question is if you look at slide 20, it's very curious that we have zero Yes, given that only 62 or 15% of the people tested are actually coming up with the COVID. You'd think there'd be more deaths attributed to influenza than during that time period because since the 18th of March you haven't had any death recorded of influenza.
That seemed like a plausible graph to you, given that?
So I'm sorry. I may not really understand your question. Are you asking why we don't have more influenza deaths reported since March 18th?
Well, I find that to be questionable given the fact 85% of the people that you tested didn't have COVID.
Could you help me please where you find these numbers on the website? I'm on my, on the website myself right now.
Well, let's see. It says status reports County of Santa Barbara
Got it, thank you.
Do
we have them? Do we have the number of so we have to? We have people incarcerated in federal prison with 893 positive tests they would have to be taken off the 1362.
Well, I don't know why because you got the deaths. These deaths include the people from the prison right?
Yeah we can take those off too doesn't change any uh i i don't understand the motive of your question sir.
I don' think that actually changes anything for my but my question is is this And maybe just to boil it down, is there some reason that we would have all COVID deaths rather than having some influenza deaths mixed in with the COVID deaths?
No. Those were all tested for influenza, sir. There was not a single dual diagnosis Especially every hospitalized patient who has COVID is tested for influenza and a slew of other viruses. So there's no co-infection for influenza. We had an unusual mild influenza season.
Okay, well I think I've made my point. In northern Italy, I just want to say that probably the demographics are a little bit worse than we are. They have an aged population and they're full of smokers. Is that right?
Well, I don't know. We're talking area of Lake Cuomo and that's probably more like a Montecito population, yes.
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Probably had some smokers in there.
No, not many smokers. Pretty health conscious. They actually all brought it in there from their ski vacations.
OK. All right. I'm done. Thank you.
You're welcome. Thank you, Supervisor Adam. Any other questions for Dr. Answer? Supervisor Hartman.
Will you be here at the end of the presentation if we have questions for you at the end or are you taking off?
I was going to excuse myself, if that's OK.
Then I did have a couple of questions. You know, initially we were trying to get a sense of well what does the arc of this look like and what are we trying to do? So instead of a spike we flattened the curve and now I think what people are asking is what do we expect? And I understand none of us knows but what we're hearing and what we're trying to avoid is a second spike that would occur in the fall or a series of spikes. And maybe what we're trying to do, I've heard it referred to as a slow burn until we can actually get a vaccine or a treatment or something and that really herd immunity isn't... That comes when we do have a vaccine and we get immunity to enough people so that vulnerable people don't have to get vaccinated if they would be compromised So I guess I would just like to the extent that you can give us a sense of just an image, what are we trying to do?
We were trying to flatten the curve so that we could manage Deal with this through our medical system and what we've heard from everyone, the sheriff and others is that we have a community that stepped up and met this challenge. And so we're asking them now to deal with the challenge in an ongoing way. And I'm trying to get a better sense in my own mind of what that looks like.
Yeah, thank you Supervisor Hartman. That's a very good and reasonable question to ask and we ask ourselves all the time believe me this is the most challenging situation I've encountered in my long medical career and I'm probably not the only one who would say that Given the fact, now there's a very interesting scenario that is playing out right in our backyard and that's at the Lompoc prison. Because they are testing the whole population, they've tested about 1,000 people already and 70% of that population came back positive. Now, the majority of those coming back positive are asymptomatic. What I'm trying to get to is yes there is the possibility to get to so-called herd immunity however At what cost? That's the problem. Just because of the high fatality rate and very contagiousness of this virus, it is very difficult to open the floodgates and just let nature take its course.
That is not possible because it is too aggressive. If we could do that, we would. You know if we wouldn't have more severely ill people than we would have with other influenza-like illnesses, we would probably advocate for that but this is not feasible because in no time The death rate would go up. The hospitalization need would be so drastic and so overwhelming to any civilized healthcare system that it would not be possible, but COVID is here to stay. We don't know if it will show or give us gracefully some respite during the warmer season.
There are other coronaviruses who are seasonal, and there are others who aren't. So time will show. There is a possibility that the herd immunity can be reached faster But it's a fine titration is sort of a technical term, but it's like you go a little bit overboard and then you dial down again in order to have a certain level of ill people that That doesn't spike really, that is manageable somehow. And it's an extremely challenging situation not just medically but also for the society and for lawmakers to give guidance. I appreciate the difficulty.
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If I might just follow up, we don't really know if people become immune to this for a long period of time. Is that correct? It may be a limited period like evidently the flu is. Anyway, I think what I'm taking away is maybe the slow burn is what we're that's the best case. That's going to require obviously ongoing measures. We want to get our economy going but we're going to have to live differently and protect ourselves and each other until we do get a vaccine.
Is that your best
judgment? Or medication so if we get therapeutics and they are working tirelessly on that Biotech and you know everybody is on board. Antivirals, hopefully there's something around the corner that would be an absolute game changer so if we had a treatment that would make it less severe it would be really a game-changer
Supervisor Lavanino, did you have a question? I thought I saw you. Nope, okay. Supervisor Williams?
Well, I think Supervisor Hartman's question also gets at the heart of why there are so many people in the community that really no longer know what we're doing. We were very good at articulating the message that the objective was to flatten the curve And now even people without a statistics degree can look at the numbers, at least the numbers not coming from Lompoc Prison and say hey that curve is pretty flattened. It's really flattened.
I think at this point we still have new infections in the community, but daily they... Some days it's zero. Some days it's five. Some days it's more. And I think people are kind of wondering what is that objective that we're doing? And it's I don't think it's ever been really articulated It's not and it's not being articulated at any level of government Not just our level of government and in it feels to a lot of people, you know The the phrase I hear from people often is the goalposts Keep on changing right? And I think I think the question is what What we believe the goalposts should be and I really appreciate this letter because it does articulate what we think the goal posts should be and it's a Santa Barbara.
Articulation of what we think those are so I appreciate any and all involved in the drafting up of that particularly because you know In my understanding, you really can't avoid a secondary spike. If you don't have a vaccine, if you don't have... Whenever you loosen, you will get somewhat of a spike. You hope it is a small, a secondary curve. I'm sorry, I'm not using the term correctly. You can't avoid a secondary curve.
It may not be a spike but there will be a secondary curve And so by that logic, you would say let's keep things clamped down for as long as possible. Except that and what I am worried about that we are undervaluing and it's not just us but the discussion under values in the country is the health effects on the families of millions of people now out of work Just in our county, thousands of people descending into deeper poverty. And for every one of those workers that's descending into poverty there are families and children that will face decreased lifespan and increased public health effects from that.
I'm not looking for an answer, but I just hope that both in our discussions and even more so in the discussions you have with public health officials in the state That we not undervalue the statistical deaths, the decreased lifespan that we are creating in the now hundreds of thousands and millions of people out of work and under dire threat of extreme poverty.
Documented fact that that has effects on the lifespan of children that are grow up in poverty and we need to take that into account in our public policy.
Mister Chair,
Supervisor Adams.
Doctor Hansorg if can you recall how many COVID treatment beds there are?
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I think Dr. Domenoso may be talking about the hospital capacity in her presentation, is that part of your presentation? That may come up in the next presentation Supervisor Adam do you want to...
Well we may have to talk about that again at that point but you know the point was made that we want to flatten the curve and all that but I think it's important that we talk about The number of beds that we have available and the number that are actually being used at this point. And I'm wondering if he knows how many beds there are, and how many beds are being used?
I'm getting that statistic on a daily basis. Let me just pull it up for you. I do know that we are below capacity. That's a good thing. That's what we want to be. I apologize for the delay. She should just be set.
I'm surprised it wasn't part of the presentation.
It is part of Dr. Dovrinoso will talk about it.
Can you tell me what page we're on?
Supervisor Adam, Dr. Dovrinoso is going to go into the hospital capacity during her presentation so we're scrambling here to get out of order and have different people answer the question if you want to just pause your question until Dr. Dobrinoso does her presentation that might help us
So I can give you Cottage's number as of yesterday. Cottage had 208 acute care beds remaining available, as of yesterday and they do have a surge capacity to add on 270 more acute care beds if that were necessary They have currently 12 patients on a ventilator, which means they have 63 ventilators available.
Yeah but how many patients do they have in those 400 beds?
They have currently 211 patients across the campuses and they have 11 in isolation for COVID And 4 in the intensive care unit so total of 15. Yeah,
but they have 15 in beds. That is
cottage Marion may be different I don't have Marion's number.
Well, I'll just wait for Dr. Del Reno. So thank you.
You're welcome. Thank you Supervisor Adam. Okay if there aren't any other questions for Dr., excuse me Supervisor Lavendino was that right? Never mind you turned it off okay. I thought you were turning it on. Next... I'm going to hold for Dr. Reynoso. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Dr. Ansler. Appreciate your information. Is next up Dr. de Reynoso?
Yes, thank you. Good morning. I'd like to begin my update with a quick walkthrough of what our governor presented as the resilience roadmap and the stages. So we were in stage one where we only allowed essential workforce environments, to be in operation, and that is all about safety and preparedness for stage two. So last Friday we entered into phase two with lower risk workplaces being opened.
And we as a state are in the initial portion of stage two. And then after stage two, we will be moving to stage three, Providing the metrics, providing all the requirements are in place. And the goal is stage four where the governor will be issuing an end of stay at home order. So with regards to stage two lower risk workplaces, we know that retail manufacturing offices where telework not possible and opening more public spaces happened last Friday.
So these are the curbside retails such as clothing, bookstores, sporting goods stores, toy stores, shoe stores, home furnishings stores, antique stores, music stores, floors etc. And all the associated manufacturing and supply chains to support those retailers as well as putting into place the physical distancing and worker and consumer protections. So what happens now?
We can with, let me actually start over. What can be opened in later phase two not right now will be destination retail such as shopping malls and swap meets personal services limited to car washes and tanning facilities office based businesses dine-in restaurants but other facility amenities like bars gaming areas Are not going to be permitted in stage 2 school and child care facilities, outdoor museums and open gallery places. We as a state are not in this later stage of phase 2 however.
If counties meet the criteria, the variance metrics we can speed more quickly through the initial stage to and again that would be the curbside pickup retailing. If the counties meet these criteria, we can begin the attestation process. And during this attestation process it means that we can speed through to the later businesses and workplaces that I just outlined but we cannot advance until stage three until the governor moves the whole state into stage three.
We begin the process of attestation with the technical assistance, phone consultation with CDPH. And then submit the readiness plan attesting that we've met all this criteria and then CDPH process the readiness plan by reviewing it and uploading it where it is a public document for review So the local variance criteria, what does this mean? There are a series of criteria that a county would need to meet.
The first is epidemiologic stability, no more than one case per 10,000 residents for the past 14 days. For Santa Barbara County that means no more than 45 new cases and no COVID-19 death in the last 14 days. The second is protection of stage one essential workers. So really having clear guidance for employers and essential critical infrastructure workplaces to protect essential workers, and the availability of disinfectant supplies and protective gear. So this is where when we issued the social distancing protocol during the issuance Health Officer Order 2020-8.1, we ask that all the essential workplaces fill that out so that is the clear guidance that the state is looking for. Testing capacity, the requirement is that we have a minimum daily testing of 1.5 per 1000 residents and I will show you in my later graphs that we're getting there.
Containment capacity, at least 15 contact tracers per 100,000 residents. So for us this means roughly 68 contact tracers and the ability to temporary house at least 15% of county residents experiencing homelessness and we have a plan in place for that. Hospital capacity The metric is that the county hospitals need to accommodate a minimum surge of 35%, and that the hospital facilities must also have a robust plan in place to protect the hospital workforce.
Vulnerable populations, skilled nursing facilities must have more than 14 day supply of PPE on hand for staff with ongoing procurement from non-state supply chains. Sectors and timelines, the criteria is for us to determine which sectors and which spaces will be open in what sequence and what timeline? And that is the health medical expert panel Are working on defining the sectors and timelines.
Triggers for adjusting modifications, developing metrics that serve as triggers for either slowing the pace as we advance through stage two or tightening the modifications. So this is our snapshot of how we as a county are doing with these variance criteria. With the epi stability, you know I was here last week when Supervisor Levino asked me in my professional opinion where Where do I think we were at? Well, last week seemed like eons ago. With the metrics that were proposed last week, yes, we would have been in a good state. However with the epi metrics for no more than 45 cases and no zero death, we're not achieving that. It's unreasonable for us to achieve that and We crafted the letter for your board to consider submitting. Testing capacity achieved, we will achieve it.
Protection of essential workers through our health officer order and through our scarce medical resources, we are achieving that. Containment capacity is in progress. So I want to pause and again really quickly touch base on how I'm going to start with the contact tracers and building up We sent out a cry for help among county departments and my colleagues in other departments gave us 96 staff to be trained to do contact tracing. In addition to that, anticipating as we reopen, we will need additional staff to support contact tracing in the pipeline so we reach out to the community and as of today We are looking at 240 applications of community members who are interested in supporting our contact tracing efforts.
In addition to the 240 applications, we will be supported by 30 family services staff for contact tracing. And this is a group of staff to meet the state requirement that our contact tracers have to reflect the demographics of our county. And so through this, this is the beginning of our effort. And we had the goal of hiring an additional 20 nurses, and glad to say that we've hired 12. And are in the process of reviewing 17 additional applications. So these are our happy moments in terms of us building Work capacity, the workforce to be able to box this disease in as we move through stage two and stage three.
We'd like to give you a brief update on our state-sponsored community testing status. We have collected, we started last Tuesday and as of last night, we have collected over 1600 specimens Of that, we have received 191 results so far with only four positives in our county. There are several positives but they belong to our neighboring counties. The results are available five to seven days from the date of collection. We originally said that it would take only two to three days, but given the challenges of all the county's testing, it's more realistic to say that our community members who are testing will not receive their results for five to seven days.
We, it's a more labor intensive effort than we anticipated. We had many counties have perceived that this is a stand up effort. Totally the counties, the local resources would just need to provide the place and a few staff but the public health department Staff as well as the incident management team staff are supporting the effort at the three sites. In Santa Maria, the site will be open from Wednesday to Sunday in Lompoc from Friday to Tuesday in Santa Barbara Thursday to Monday from 7 to 7 and this was our local need to make sure that we have testing capacity seven days of the week.
We are now able to block appointments for key groups based on need, based on requests and all other appointments are available on a first come first basis. So I want to spend the next few minutes covering the data around the pandemic in our county. So, I want to start off with by giving you a complete picture of the cases so we have We have 1362, that is the grand total of all cases. Of that we have broken it down to the blue line describes the active cases at 877 so that's roughly 64% are active.
The green line is relatively flat, and that denotes our recovered cases. So our recovered cases account for 35% of our total cases. And we have the hospitalization and the death rate near at the bottom. We have been sharing on a daily basis the new cases, as well as city totals. And this is the first time that your board has seen this graph. What we did was take the numbers and put it in a graph so you can visually see what's happening. So these are total cases by the city. So here at the black line significantly Going from last week.
Landing at 854 as of Sunday and that belongs to the prison, and this is due to the mass testing that was initiated last week. Then we have Santa Maria next. At this blue line. The orange line, flat, describes Lompoc. The green line describes Santa Barbara and on the left hand side are the numbers for your convenience and I will be updating the online version of this with today's date after this meeting.
These are new cases for the past two weeks. So you will see that a lot of these graphs cover a 14 day period, because that's the incubation period and the life of the metrics that this state is asking for. So what's happening every 14 days at the local level? So we have, these are new cases again in the past two weeks city by city. So you have in Santa Maria and it's good that is going downward however the past two days there's a tiny spike going up. The red line right here Describes Santa Barbara and again the cases, the new cases are leveling off. And we see a little spike of a few cases going up.
The blue line is Lompoc which started at 40 at the height and now is very, very low. And so those are the three significant places of where cases are happening. So with regards to new cases within context of the prison, so here again is at the new cases by 14. And you see the spike going up because the testing started last week. We see 69 going up to 109, jumping up to 310 level coming back down still significant at 228 and now hovering around the high 50s.
So of this You could see beginning on 5-6 the significant impact the cases in the prison has on our total new cases. So, the orange represents the new cases and the blue represents community cases. Number wise We can see the difference, the contribution, the impact of prison cases. So starting on 5-6 again, the 65 going up to the 100, going up to the 310, going down to the 215. This is what's driving the spike that we see here in our new cases totals.
So when we talk about the original, when we started the pandemic or managing our response effort two clear overarching goals were stated. We need to safeguard our healthcare system and we need to protect the most vulnerable members of our society so this is a description Of how our health care system is doing we have currently 7037 of our cases hospitalized.
And that accounts for a 4.2%. The of the hospitalize we have 10 in the ICU. Attributes to 1.1% so we still have The capacity, that's the take home message. Our system because of the slow and steady measured curve we have not tapped into the surge capacity so local variance standard is the local hospital systems have to be able to withstand a 35% surge. We do have that capacity.
The other metric talks about testing so it is 1.5 per 1000 and you can see that At the end of April, we were fairly low. With community testing, with our hospitals testing, with additional providers testing and community health centers testing, we as a community are reaching that goal of 1.5 and I predict relatively soon. Because, and I want to pause and talk about test positivity.
The positivity rate prior to the mass testing at the prison we hovered around 9-10%. So the 10% yardstick is very achievable, very reasonable but with the addition of The positive cases from the mass testing at the prison, we are really hovering at a high rate because of the 67 to 70% on a daily basis positivity rate in the prison. So what's the takeaway regarding this data? Is that because of the new inmate cases, 790 new cases. That accounts 88% of our total new cases.
Reaching capacity we are getting there in our community capacity to meet the state metric of 1.5 per 1000 and again our hospital has the capacity To absorb surge. And so, these that concludes my portion of my update.
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Thank you Director DeRanosa are there questions for Dr. DeRanosa? Supervisor Adam. A couple.
On the tracing side of thing with the new testing sites that we have like in Santa Maria, contact tracing makes sense to me. If we had a 24-48 hour turnaround on the test you'd be able to go find out who that person had been in contact with but if we're not getting a result back for almost a week doesn't that put considerable more strain on the tracing side of things?
We are worried for those same reasons, and that is something that the team is constantly more than once a day. Probably the state's getting five to six calls from us with those same concerns. So what we have done is we have stepped up and So that those tests are going to what lab? Where are we sending those to? They are going they're going to quest, I believe.
Okay, so there's no other lab around me. What other options do we have instead of? I mean it just sounds like at this point they're telling us well it's gonna be a week and I'm trying to figure out what other options do we have where we can cut that in half
So we were on a state call last night, and I was on a call with our San Luis Obispo colleagues last Friday who are having the same issues. The jurisdictions across are facing the same issues so on a call last night we loudly said this is not acceptable and so I'm anticipating that there's going to be a change relatively soon and that is one of the suggestions. What other labs can support this effort?
Okay, so on the other side of things the good news is hospitalizations in ICU seem to have been flat for quite a while now I mean we really haven't seen the surge I think this is what the community seems to be. For me, those are the two things that I look at every day. It's not so much the new cases but because it seems like what the reason why we're doing social distancing or at least the message that I got was the reason why we were doing social distancing and everybody was staying home and we had to put the economy on pause is because we didn't want to overwhelm the medical community and help the healthcare infrastructure And it seems like we did an amazing job of that. And by the numbers that you're presenting, the hospitals have that surge capacity, we have that.
And so I'm just curious from a healthcare perspective and from a public health perspective maybe you could shed light on why a measurement of no deaths in two weeks How does that make sense or how does that, do you see a useful portion of that from a healthcare perspective? From your seat. Because I don't see it at
all. My professional opinion, it doesn't make sense to me either and so I think that's why we have been very, I sent a letter to CDPH protesting the epi metrics. It doesn't make sense to me Especially given our demographics, a significant proportion of our population have underlying medical conditions as well as are above average. So last, was it last? Right before the release of the metrics I sent a letter to the state saying you know what makes more sense is again returning to the two original metrics safeguarding Our health care system. So what are the metrics that can indicate that we have data to prove that we can safeguard our healthcare system and the and the other is safeguarding our vulnerable populations as you are aware, We have stood up homeless shelters.
We have containment mitigation plans for our skilled nursing facilities and we have alternate care sites planning, so we've done all of that and I encourage the state to allow or reconsider their metrics because I totally agree with you on that.
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Just want to get your opinion on. So, would you characterize I mean like your conversations? I don't know with CDPH. Are you getting what I'm trying to figure out if there's a difference of opinion at the public health level at the state between us or if this more of a political issue at the state level where Are you hearing the same? I mean, are you getting like buy-in from CDPH or they saying because some of it might have to do with the fact that we're trying to make up rules for all 58 counties from one position. But I'm just trying to get a feel if you're getting buy in at the public health level at the state with your questions on some of the new criteria.
So I received a very polite response to my email that said, thank you for sharing your local need. And unfortunately we are unable to consider them at this time. What I can tell you is that they have been very open to hearing all of the jurisdictions perspectives about what's happening at the local level And the majority of my colleagues in other counties expressed the same frustrations about the metrics, about for the most part I think that we all can meet the variance criteria except the EPI. The EPI is a huge, huge it seems insurmountable metric for the counties to achieve at this time.
Okay, then my last question is for CEO Miyasato. And I know you talked to your other CEOs throughout the state. Maybe coming from public health officials, obviously elected officials were also sending letters and doing these types of things but I'm just kind of curious what you're hearing from other CEOs around the state of what tax that they're taking and maybe what other strategies might be out there that we haven't adopted yet?
Thank you for asking that this the county see as do have a call every Friday where we discuss this and I think it really has to do on the circumstances in the size, and it's interesting because. More rural agricultural counties who don't you know, they're they don't have any issue They really don't and so it's a very it's unfair to them because they don't have any cases. They haven't anything like that the more urban counties They do want to open but they're trying to balance because they They understand given their the density of some of their populations, etc That if they release restrictions too early, it will be a problem. Not all of them. It's mixed even within them. But I think overall what I hear from everyone is they would like the governor and CDPH to give more local discretion for our own indicators.
That the indicators that were announced Monday were reasonable as doctored during also said people do feel these indicators are unreasonable and overall we all want a little more discretion because we know our counties better and we arse also have a vested interest in protecting the health of our I'm hearing no one really likes the criteria that was put some feel that it may be more necessary in their circumstances, but everyone would like more. Local discretion.
Dr. Del Reno, so what's the impact of asymptomatic people that are unlikely to get processed in your testing stream on the behavior of the virus as it spreads through our population?
Your question is what is the impact of a person who is asymptomatic and they test positive, correct?
Well, yeah but in the greater sense like we know that there's a whole bunch of asymptomatic carriers out there right?
Right. So we're following the CDC guideline, whereas we want to make sure that they self-isolate and during their positivity period that they don't incubate and spread the disease further just because they are not symptomatic. There have been studies that show that you could still be infectious even though you are not symptomatic
Right. Well, that's my point is we know that there is a certain percentage and it may be as high as 50 of people depending upon age likely that are asymptomatic and so those people that are not coming into your testing stream what's the impact of them on the testing stream? I guess what I'm trying to point out is the folly of the whole contact tracing, and even the testing that you're doing. You're only measuring a certain portion of the population and there is a reservoir out there in the community that is either lightly symptomatic or asymptomatic They're out there spreading it and you're not able to detect who those people are by your method of testing.
And so they're just continuing to spread the disease, isn't that right?
So we, because this is a voluntary testing. So you're right, we are only testing those who are symptomatic or not symptomatic who choose to make an appointment and come in and get tested. There are other methods of testing in our county pre-ops are being tested as well as discharges or entries. So part of the local variance requirement is that we also start doing surveillance. And so while the guidance are unclear about what that might look like, that is something that we will also be looking at. So you're absolutely right. How do we know about the wells out there in the community? And the surveillance, this community surveillance will also assist us in making a good determination.
Okay and then again if someone does get tested in your testing stream and it turns out even let's just say they cut it down to two days and they turn out to be negative Is there anything that prevents that person from becoming positive after their test?
Absolutely not. So, that is the point in time testing so they can be negative at that point but still get an infection the day after.
Right okay And one of those asymptomatic people in the reservoir of the community that we were just talking about could be exposed to one of those people that just got tested, and then it's expanding. The disease would be taking its course as nature would have it. If you had a comment on that, that's fine. If not, let me know and I'll ask my next question.
I'm ready for your next question.
OK. Slide 17. And I'm looking at a document that originated from, I think, you last night which is a more detailed version of slide 17 And it looks like what we have here is 74 beds occupied. When you add up the total hospitalized and the medical surge in the ICU bed, am I reading that right?
Let me pull up the email that I sent to Bob to see what you're referencing.
Thank you.
Okay, I have that email. Can you repeat your question please?
Well, when I'm looking at the beds occupied box there that's got the total hospitalized medical surge beds and ICU beds. Is that a number that we add up or are their components is the medical surge beds and the ICU bed equal 37?
Correct.
Okay so you have 37 beds being filled at this point 699 total beds, including the medical surge beds and ICU beds. Is that right?
Correct.
OK. So we're taking up 5.3% of the actual beds. Yes. And that means that even 35% over that Is what 70 beds? Less than 70 beds. But we have 699 I mean, we're so far under what you know, we're under utilizing our resources here. We're doing too good of a job tamping this down and this even has the prison in it is that right?
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The prison, I believe are planning to rape repatriate their hospitalized patients back this week.
Yeah, but that those 37 beds that we're talking about it. Those include any patients that we might have had from the from the prison is alright?
It does contain that.
OK so and and I don't remember what slide it was but it was Showed the big giant. Contribution that the prison made, you know percentage wise to our total. I don't know where it is. You know it just seems to me that we're under utilizing our resources. We've set aside these Resources and we're maintaining all the personnel, and we have all the PPE. And everything is in place but it doesn't seem like enough people are coming in through the door.
And back to this building of herd immunity if everybody stays locked up in a closet and nobody gives it to anybody then how fast do you build herd immunity?
So the other perspective in looking at the percent of the beds being occupied, it's a good thing that we're not overwhelming our hospital system. So I think that puts us in a good place for the hospitals to resume their electives or And that's a good thing. Thank you.
Thank you, Supervisor Adam. Supervisor Hartman?
Well, I just wanted to thank everybody who worked on this letter. And as you look at the epidemiological criteria that the one about the testing one case per 10,000 population, that seems to me to really be a perverse incentive against testing and they should understand Not logical. And if I understand, no deaths in 14 days? So Alpine County that's 1200 or LA County with 10 million have the same metric. So I can't help but think that there are other counties who would join with us.
Even a majority of the 58 counties to say this doesn't make logical sense. It doesn't answer the diversity of experiences and populations, it's not a relativistic measure that we can all use And if we join together, I think we would get more than just a polite. Oh thanks for sending this but really this
doesn't make sense right so I did shop that letter with to my other colleagues and I believe that I know of at least Two or three other counties considering using protesting the same epimetrics. And it doesn't make sense, and it's not reasonable. It feels like, and it's not academically rigorous either to say zero death rather than do it by population. So
it begs the question, what more can all of us do to put weight behind this? CSAC or I mean they're just expecting you to do this on top of everything else you're doing doesn't seem quite fair.
I think it's all of the above. Supervisor Williams?
Both the public health director has an association, we have an association CSEC. Our CEO has an association. We should be using all of those avenues if you, in my experience if you want to change and convince the administration to change direction on something that's what you have to do. But I do want to just add, I mean, I was on a conference call that stretched deep into the night late last week between two high ranking administration personnel and basically each CSAC rep. It was on the call.
They only allowed the most polite of us to ask questions and pretty much the initial response, and it's predictable because it was the day of the announced criteria was a very polite no I don't think that should daunt us. I would say that obviously on the day that it's released, the answer is going to be no because people don't really have a chance to consider your points that you've raised.
However, I can tell you also from that call even among the most polite of the counties there was almost uniform Dismay at this criteria and from counties obviously that have been very supportive of the work that the administration has done. And I count myself as one of those folks enthusiastic about the governor's swift action saving lives at the front end of this, but this criteria does not make sense.
In a disease, the death curve is a smaller curve but it follows the infection curve. It can often take place well after the infections are over and they're essentially setting a criteria we would not be able to reach until long after the infections are over And that doesn't make sense. So I do think, to your point, one of the things that should give us hope is that there was pretty uniform dismay from counties across the state.
Do we ever have sign-on letters?
We do, and I think there'll be various forms of cooperation emerging and various forms of opportunities to try to convince them to change paths.
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Any other questions for Dr. Dobernoso? Thank you very much for the very detailed information and all the graphs that really help illustrate our situation. Well, this probably should be find their way into our communications to the governor in some way because I think they paint a very strong picture.
Supervisor Williams? Sorry, sorry, I just wanted it, you know, and you can keep it brief. I'm still just want to give you an opportunity if more data has come in on the mass question because thus far I guess I would have been a mask moderate like Let's use them, we know it's not harmful unless you're touching your face more often. Let's promote it but I have not been a Mask universalist or a mask radical where I believe everybody needs to be doing and under every circumstance, but I'm open to change if there's data that supports.
A mask universalist position so I want to kind of understand that more if we have any better data yet.
And I think every week, not every week. What's the saying? Every other day we get new reports, new studies but when Dr. Ansorg and I review those articles, we find that some of the studies have limitations whether they are small in size or whether it's a convenient sample There are limitations. That said, we do believe that there are some benefits to wearing face covering and given all the other Mandates must dues.
We want to approach wearing face coverings as a recommendation and appeal to our community members to wear them. to protect others. Not necessarily to protect themselves from others, but out of courtesy and kindness to protect others since they may have the infection. So we want to approach this as is this something that we can appeal and make it a recommendation or strong recommendation And lead by examples, we all wear one.
That's the approach and that's the space that we are currently in right now. We are following CDCs guidelines, we're following CDPH guidelines of recommending face covering especially when you cannot Observe social distancing, especially when you are in closed setting. But that's the space that we're in right now.
Thank you very much again. Next we'll have Dr. Gleghorn and this is May's Mental Health, Mental Wellness Awareness Month so it's appropriate that you're here to talk about that aspect of this challenge.
Good morning Chair Hart and members of the board. Thank you very much for this opportunity to speak to you today about the Behavioral health impacts of COVID. I am going to give a broad overview of some of the trends that we're seeing, and I'm also gonna give you a few slides that show more specific data that we're using to base our summaries upon. So wanted to first give you just an understanding of how this emergency has impacted our department. We have about 44% of our workforce at home performing their job duties, primarily if they're clinicians through telehealth.
The department had to very quickly do a pivot to be able to provide phone or video types of services which is not something that was ever approved before this emergency and so it's been a learning opportunity for all of us and as you can imagine we had to make sure very quickly That our IT department was able to support that kind of activity. So, 44% of our workforce is at home and working. About a third of our workforce is still on the job present in our facilities, in our hospital, in our mobile services, in our crisis services as well as essential staffing which is nominal staffing at each of our outpatient sites.
Similar to what we do when we have holiday closures. So about again, about a third of the workforce is working pretty much as normal. We also have about 11% of our staff that is at home not working. And on various types of leave due to COVID, whether they are sick or whether they have other responsibilities that make it impossible for them to work at this time. And then on any given day we have another 10% that are just out for various reasons.
Of the staff who are onsite about 5% are actively supporting the emergency efforts either through work at the EOC, work at our shelters, other work like that. Moving now to really broad trends, our access line is open and we have seen a decrease over time in the daytime calls coming in requesting services or information across the last couple of months. However, we have been seeing a recent increase in information only requests for both mental health and substance abuse treatment services. And you'll see more numbers on this later.
Overall, there's been about a 50% decrease in people requesting screening and referrals for substance abuse treatment itself. We have seen a recent increase in the number of deaths by suicide. We've seen an increase in referrals from mental health screenings specifically from the child welfare services In March and April, we've had a high demand for beds at our psychiatric health facility specifically from the criminal justice system and increased acuity because of that.
The community wellness team which is a partner with behavioral wellness is operational and they have Active referral lines and resources available for community members primarily through virtual means but available countywide in both Spanish and English. And the services range from linking people with resources in the community to doing individual counseling or online support groups.
This is some of our specific data. These are calls that we get from nine to five every day, and I've put in data ranging from pre-COVID before anyone was really thinking about it, January and the totals for each month since then. And you can see that when... So let me back up here. So when we call into the helpline, you have an opportunity to self select why you're calling. You can say, I'm calling for mental health Substance abuse or only need information. And you can see that in that first triaging of what people are calling for, we've had Really a dramatic drop in people saying they're looking for substance abuse treatment.
And we've had a gradual decline in people saying they're only calling for information and not really much impact, really the COVID impact numbers would have been in March and April and not a big change there in self requests for mental health. But you can also see that over time we've had a drop in calls volume So looking more specifically at what happens when you select those items, and then also in general we take other calls overnight and specifically calls to our clinic. We see other trends. Looking on the left-hand side this is just mental health data And you can see at the bottom that for information-only calls, we have had an uptick in April in people seeking more information about mental health services.
But overall, in terms of routine calls, we've had a slight drop and no real change or variation in change between urgent and crisis calls in the mental health capacity. Looking on the right hand side for our Drug Medi-Cal organized delivery system, again if you look towards the bottom at the information only, the proportion of people calling for information only has increased but when you look at the volume of calls at the top, people looking specifically for referrals and placement to treatment. There has been a drop from 45% of people calling asking for that service in January down to a proportion of 27% in April.
And the calls overall coming in for substance abuse have gone down by about 50% from 557 in January down to 258 in April. This chart just pulls out those numbers so you can see the trends pretty clear on the ADP side, which is the orange columns. And also really the lack of change in volume for mental health service requests in the blue column. So this is a chart that we're able to pull up very quickly. These are numbers that show the minutes of service that we provide in our outpatient service system. These columns, the blue represents our contract agencies or community-based organizations. The red represents county agency. These are minutes that are recorded into our electronic health record And the chart begins back in July. So this really gives you a sense of how things vary over time and with different holidays, you can see we've pulled out specifically the weeks of Thanksgiving and the holiday closure weeks.
The holiday closure weeks are when we are down to essential staffing in our clinics so similar to what we have now in our clinics but the numbers at the end of the chart Also reflect services we're able to provide through telehealth. So you see that the stay at home order is targeted there at the end of the chart beginning on March 19th, and you see those numbers are lower than our average daily numbers across the rest of the year but certainly higher than the numbers we see typically during Holiday closures and we think we reason that that difference is due to the availability of telehealth during this time. So you can kind of see, we're still on the job.
Our services have dropped by about 30% in delivery but it's certainly more than the essential staffing patterns we had seen at other times.
I want to ask about this and the next slide. If there's less minutes of service because less people are asking for it, then I can understand that. I do have some concerns though. One of the issues is our fiduciary responsibility about the contracts we have with contract agencies. We give them taxpayer funds. The taxpayers are supposed to get services for that, so what are we doing to make sure that the contract agencies are fulfilling their contracts?
So Supervisor Williams, the chair. I think this chart shows that across the board both civil service and contractors have been working to provide services. I should say that the most recent two week numbers will go up because We enter this information and there is a time lag. So we wanted to show you as much data as we had, but some of this data will change farther on down the line as more services are entered because we do have a time factor that allows people to enter services with a delay. So, we do think that the services are impacted by not being able to have in-person services.
We have seen that some populations do better with the telehealth approach than others, particularly children's services and TAY services seem to do very well with things like Zoom groups. The populations that don't do as well are folks that are adults that may not be as familiar with technology or may not have a A private confidential space to receive a service over the phone.
Again, this is minutes of service. We may also be seeing an impact of people not wanting to talk as long over the phone as they might have previously been receiving services in a face-to-face visit. So there are a variety of things going into the decrease in these numbers. There's also some evidence that clients who have co-occurring disorders may not be as comfortable with this modality.
Certainly, clients who don't have phones or don't have technology and we recently submitted some numbers to the state about the volume of people who we think need improved technology in order to fully utilize telehealth is also a factor. So there are a number of things that are impacting this however our initial estimates we thought we were going to be dropped to really our holiday closure levels so We're actually pleased that this is only a 30% drop and we're hoping that over time, we're going to be able to get those numbers higher.
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my other part of that concern is the human one. I mean you have less demand for substance abuse services but I can tell you people are abusing a lot harder out there. The more people are staying at home, the more they're drinking, the more they're doing drugs The human cost if we can't deal with that issue is great. And so I urge whatever measures you can take to make sure that we get people some services, so we don't lose more people.
Supervisor Williams, through the Chair. This slide is outpatient services on the mental health side. I have a couple slides later that show specifically some of the substance abuse services so we'll get to those too. Let me go onto the next slide. This slide pulls out the outpatient crisis services so that you can see as well in this type of service. Again, the blue is our community-based organization. This is only focused on children's services because all of the other services are delivered by county staff in the red. So this shows quite clearly that the normal variability in crisis services is looking a lot like some of what we're seeing now after the stay at home order So again, some of the numbers you saw on the last slide really are looking at the impact for the outpatient system more.
Generally, and this shows that crisis services vary over time. Certainly if you look at the week of Thanksgiving and holidays, you see that we get very low numbers typically during the holidays. And so some of the COVID services are reflecting those levels as well. But this is looking a lot more like normal variation. And we'll see as we go farther and farther out in weeks if we start to get more and more crisis services called in.
But typically we saw this during the debris flow, we saw this during the fires that our crisis calls do tend to dip when we're dealing with other emergencies. And so we're seeing some of that similar trend here but it's not out of keeping with some of the variation you see throughout the year. Generally with substance abuse treatment, broad strokes what we're seeing is that all of our outpatient substance abuse providers have successfully transitioned to telehealth. Some of them are still providing some limited face-to-face services in addition to telehealth. We do see that we have consistent levels of Drug Medi-Cal billing through the substance abuse providers during this period. There hasn't been a drop in services, and you'll see a specific slide in a minute.
But we have heard that it's difficult to maintain engagement with clients who have more complexities or who have co-occurring mental health and substance abuse disorders. So we're going to need to figure out how we can better serve that population because telehealth is not going to be as successful, at least from our first blush experiences here. We have not seen any significant just decrease in opiate treatment through our Opiate treatment program, Aegis.
We're seeing even though the programs have been allowed to have more take home about half the clients are being served through take home doses which means about half the clients are continuing to present to the clinics. We have about 750 people receiving these services in county right now. And that is a stable level. That doesn't represent an increase nor decrease in that population. Where we have seen a change at OTP is that their counseling minutes per week have dropped from about 7,000 to about 13,000 between the end of February and the third week of April.
However, we have seen an increase in people presenting and engaging in residential treatment. In February we had 33 admissions and in April we had 48. So looking more specifically at some of these numbers this is the Residential Treatment Services It begins the first week of December and the color differences represent different providers. So really what you're seeing here is that from the beginning of December through to about the end of February, We were seeing some variation but a gradual decline and now we're seeing the numbers go back up. There was some initial halts to admissions with some of our congregate living environments, whether it was a shelter or whether it was a residential treatment program. So now we're seeing those numbers begin to go back up, primarily I think due to reopening of some of those beds.
And also we had a number of clients coming out of jail that availed themselves of residential treatment opportunities through our diversion process. So you can see those numbers are recovering. This is our outpatient services. Again, these are all community-based organizations. Again these numbers began the 1st of December and you can see the impact in column 4 and 5 of holiday normal people not coming in for services during holiday times And when you look at this graph overall, you can see that we're well within the normal variation of the volume of outpatient services being received with our outpatient treatment providers.
So we have continued as an essential service the vast majority of our services, but we have delivered the services in different ways. We've been very active in other opportunities to address the public through town halls or participate in press conferences Our access line, it continues to be open 24-7 for crisis and routine referrals for both mental health and substance abuse treatment.
Our outpatient clinics and our community based organizations are open for new admissions and for ongoing care. We are practicing social distancing and telehealth. All of our crisis services are staffed and are fully open, including the psychiatric health facility, crisis stabilization unit, all of our community crisis services including co-response, and our sobering center is open as well.
We do have a specific document for COVID resources For community members that is located on our website and we urge people to go onto our website to look at those resources. And we also have a number of well-being apps for the phone that we've published as well in what we call a help at hand guide, and this is what the first page of that looks like. So there are a number of apps that we have available for our clients and for the general public to help pursue well-being in general and remind us to practice good mental health and substance abuse practices. So we urge our community members to go onto our website and look for these opportunities to engage in good self care, and I'm happy to answer any questions people might have.
Thank you Dr. Gleghorn for the detailed presentation. Are there questions for Dr. Gleghorn?
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already got mine. Okay, thank you all right. Thank you very much. We have Nancy Anderson who's going to talk about reopening in the safe environment or rise guide Miss Anderson. Thank you for being here
Good morning well actually good afternoon now Mr.. Chairman and members of the board We're going to get the slide up for you. It's just one simple one I'm here today to just update your board and the public in regard to our reopening framework project that was initiated with reach about 2 and a half weeks ago now it's been made moving forward very quickly and has been very productive so far First and foremost, we have an official IT name.
We're calling it our Reopening and Safe Environment or RISE Guide so you'll be hearing it with that acronym for the next couple of weeks. Our informal roundtable discussion has been very productive. We held most of our meetings last week and have a few too that we are finishing up this week. We've compiled a great deal of information. We are extremely appreciative of all of those who participated.
They were very thoughtful and experts in their fields, providing us a lot of information that we're having to sift through and provide to our expert panel. Based on the state's new guidance last week, as our public health director has indicated, shifted our process a little bit. We are having to kind of present this more as a supplement to the state's resilience roadmap. So including all of that information that the state put out last week so it's complementary to it. The state also put out multiple industry guidelines So we've incorporated that into the document and those industries were mostly Primarily associated to through early stage Businesses that are allowed to open to some capacity so there are areas of which either are unique to Santa Barbara that we want to include one of those being farm workers and immigrant communities and Some that are in later stage three and four that we're having to provide some local, what we're calling local best practices.
So we will be providing that in the sector guidance. Our expert panel progress, they've made significant progress over this last week. We are so appreciative of them for that as well. And the public health department for all that they're doing. They will have the framework guidance, also incorporating the state's resilience roadmap into that and we are well on our way to meet our goal of presenting to your board formally next Tuesday May 19th.
So with that I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.
Thank you, Ms. Anderson. I know this has been a tremendous amount of work in a very short period of time with a lot of people as you said contributing their time and expertise to make it happen quickly and comprehensively. Supervisor Williams? Just want
to ask and highlight obviously some of the cities have their own initiatives here in Santa Barbara. The mayor has a task force and they have put out some recommendations or things that they're hoping are those being factored into the plan
Supervisor Williams through the chair. Actually, I'm on that task force with them and they're using their task force as the represented community roundtable discussion and that letter that was presented to the county is part of that process. So yes we are incorporating that.
Yeah it would be great to have some level of uniformity and also you know checking on each other's work so to speak. Supervisor Hartman.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Well this has been a tremendous effort and how quickly and how much our community has stepped up to contribute. I am curious as to what form the final product will be made available in and whether we will engage the community for outreach purposes once Our health officer has decreed what the guidance should be. So those are two questions and then the third is, are we looking just sector by sector or by phases?
I'm trying to figure out what the structure looks like. We all know what it would look like in phase four when we're fully back to business as normal. But is it sequenced in some way for other, for in the sectors?
Sure, Supervisor Hartman through the chair. We are actually structuring it very similar to the state's resilience roadmap stages. So it's provided we indicate the businesses by stage that they're coming out in and those are into major sector categories. The state has produced some that May not be relevant industries so much in Santa Barbara, but is across the state of California. So there's going to be many, many industry sector guidance that's gonna be available individually. That's why we're trying to tailor some that might be more specific to Santa Barbara within our document as kind of local best practice guidance.
Then I believe your question was how is it gonna look for In the process? We have a few more that we're tying up this week, and then we'll be incorporating all of that information into the final product that's going to be presented to the panel. And they'll provide that feedback. I think I forgot your first one.
Well, so it'll be something on the website that people will look up the form and then I guess it'll evolve through the stages. And then will we be using the people who've been so generous helping us develop this to educate and reach out to the community about it?
Thank you so much for bringing that up in regard to what's going to be available on the next step. So once we have the document published, we'll have that on our ReadySBC.org website with a feedback option. So online, the general public and more businesses if they want to provide additional guidance and suggestions because there's very People think out of the box in these industries. It's really amazing that may want to provide some Input into it further this is a living document. It's not a one-and-done type product So we'll definitely be refining it over time especially as the state provides, you know additional Information pretty much on a weekly basis at this point. We will have to be updating and mirroring that type of information coming down from the state So there will be plenty of opportunity we're hoping that the general public and the businesses will take advantage of That being available publicly Because we are looking at everything it's You know important to be able to provide them that guidance
Thank you, miss Anderson are there any questions
Supervisor Williams I think this work is critical given how many people have lost their jobs and how many are under threat of losing their businesses. Healthcare system does need an economy to support it too. And I think part of people's mental health and part of people's economic health has the same underlying need, which is the need for a light at the end of the tunnel, a need for hope.
And my hope is that this plan whether We need it next week or whether we need it in a couple weeks. Can provide people a little bit of a road map and provide people the hope that they need to keep on trying because I do think if people can retain hope in this dark hour, they will avoid thoughts So I guess the you know, the subscript. Of this project, in my view should be keep hope alive because that is what for so many workers and for so many businesses what this is really about.
Supervisor Hartman?
I just wanted to add, I haven't been out much but the few times I have to Albertsons or Costco or some of the places. The employees are there cleaning down the shopping carts and asking that we wear face coverings I've had people send emails telling me how thankful they are that these businesses are concerned about keeping them safe. And I think that's an important message and even a way that businesses can distinguish themselves, how seriously they take public health and protecting the public health. And again for all of us it's important I like to wear my mask, it's a sign that I care about other people. And I think that's something that really distinguishes Santa Barbara County and why I'm so proud to be here.
We still have 14 requests to speak on this item. So let's take 10 minute break and then come back for public comment. Yeah. you
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Reconvene the Board of Supervisors meeting and we have I believe 14 members of the public who would like to comment on the coronavirus update. Madam Clerk, would you begin?
Yes Chair Hart, Members of the Board that is correct. We have 14 requests to speak on this item and we are going to begin on the phone with Andy Caldwell to be followed by Mark Preston
Members of the Board, Andy Caldwell representing CoLab. I'm kind of shocked that absent from your discussions in your letters is any pressure on Hannah Beth Jackson and Monique Lamone to be making their case in Sacramento. I would still urge you to consider the fact that we're no longer in a state of emergency We have the capacity and the capability to handle the virus now. So there's no longer a legal justification for the governor's continued state of emergency.
Secondly, with regard to the law, the criteria is unachievable and basically it's biased in so many ways that it should be tossed out. The issue with the prison is the governor has no authority over the prison. Your letter's saying, well we have no control over the prison but the fact is he has no authority. His criteria do not apply to a federal institution and so the numbers should not count against our county's count.
We would urge you to rescind your local orders let the governor's order stay but at least rescind your local orders That would make all the citizens in this region have to answer to the governor. And again, they should be pressuring HBG and Monique Lamone to make their case. The other thing that's interesting is the lockdown was supposed to protect members of the general public but the overwhelming majority of your cases are happening in institutions close to the public, ie the penitentiary and nursing homes.
Furthermore, on April 1st the Los Angeles Times reported that the governor's administration had ordered nursing homes to take positive COVID patients. Two more points why are we including asymptomatic in our counts? Asymptomatic may spread the virus but they do not represent an emergency And finally with regard to Doss Williams' point, we don't need more rules and more restricted parking at beaches. There's no restricted parking at Costco or Lowe's or Home Depot. People getting out in the sunlight is the healthiest thing they could be doing. We should be encouraging people to go outside.
And you know with regard to Dr. Ansor he said we could be like Italy or New York City well why couldn't we be like Sweden? These are things that you need to be considering, but you need to push back against this governor because the bottom line he's not interested in getting to phase four until we have either a cure or a vaccine and neither one of those is a sure thing. Thank you.
Thank you Mr. Caldwell and just to be clear, Assemblymember Lamone, Assemblymember Cunningham and Senator Jackson have all been very supportive of our perspective and have been advocating at the state level on our behalf.
Thank You Chair Hart members of the board we will now go to Mark Preston to be followed by a letter to be read into the record
Good morning. This is Mark Preston of Bealton, California. Thank you for taking my call. COVID-19 is a very important issue for every Santa Barbara County resident. I looked at the status report daily at 5 p.m.. It is a good report but it is missing one very important data set The daily status has the number of confirmed cases and number of deaths broken out into geographic areas.
This is valuable data for the decision makers and valuable data for the county residents. The status report also has aggregate number of recovered cases, however, the data status does not report the recovered cases by geographic area. This is such a puzzling oversight. If one lives in Santa Barbara, there are 69 cases and 1 death. How many of those Santa Barbara cases have recovered?
I live in San Ynez Valley. There are 7 cases and no deaths. I want to know how many are recovered and cases closed. I need to know to make good decisions. Please do not think that people will use this metric to let down their guard as information people have the right to know Please advise the date when this column will be included in the dataly status report.
I believe this report will be with us for quite a while, so let's make it better. Thank you very much. Mark Preston.
Thank you Mr. Preston
We will now go to public comment from Sarah Henderson The COVID-19 crisis has strained our community. We as people who live in Santa Barbara County demand the following, many people in Santa Barbara are currently unable to pay rent due to unemployment as a result of the COVID- 19 crisis. While many homeowners and landlords are being given forbearance options, renters are going to be left to fend for themselves once the eviction moratorium is lifted. For that reason we demand support For a year long period to pay back any rent related debt beginning once the moratorium expires.
According to the most recent counts, nearly 2,000 people are currently experiencing homelessness in Santa Barbara County. Nearly 1,000 in the city of Santa Barbara. Currently only 68 hotel rooms have been secured via project room key which is clearly insufficient given our population. We demand that the sit and lie ordinances that were expanded to include the area surrounding Cacique and Milpas be kept temporary as they will in the long run victimize people living or staying in the area. We also demand that more action be taken toward expanding the amount of housing being allocated as a response to this crisis, and that the city shift their efforts towards housing people without expanding sit-and-lie ordinances. Thank you.
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Chair Hart and members of the board we will now go to Kevin Burns on the phone.
OK. Good afternoon chair Hart and members of the board and thank you for your service to the community my name is Kevin Burns And I'm a resident of Santa Barbara County. I speak before you today to request that the Board of Supervisors secure by June 1st, a listing of the recently announced reopening guidelines which prevent local businesses from being able to fully operate and hence allow members of our community from being able to provide for their families. The reopening guidelines issued by the state are too arbitrary, discriminatory against small businesses and are overly burdensome to consistently and effectively implement There's no clear time frame for when businesses can open.
To attempt to move forward with these restrictions in some form will result in only further delays and a further deterioration of our local economy, and a spiraling decline in the overall physical, mental, emotional, and economic health of our community. After almost two months in some form of lockdown, small businesses cannot hold on any longer, and they need to be allowed to fully operate by June 1st. Please continue to have faith in our constituents Thank you, Mr Burns.
We will now go to public comment from Kevin Sharpton. Hello, Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. Thank you for your tireless efforts to keep our community safe and functional during these unprecedented times. Our experiences will make us stronger. Ordinance 5099 needs additional definitive addendums to preserve housing security, increase stability and to prevent further homelessness.
The California State 37-20 does not provide these protections, and we need your help. LA City has adopted similar language as well as a few other counties. I'm requesting you adopt the following language into this Santa Barbara County Ordinance 5099 on May 12th. One, automatic housing lease extension. This lease extension guarantee should be for 12 months at the current rent paid.
Provides protection to recently expired leases in which the tenant resides on a month-to-month term or to a lease that is about to expire. Without this language, landlords may take action against renters who have deferred rent And force them out for a higher paying tenant. This force-out will burden existing tenants to spend additional monies for moving companies, moving expenses and increase the potential homelessness for families with and without children. This will also delay deferred rent payments to the landlord.
Two, no fault evictions prevents a landlord trying to perform a forced move in of themselves, a family member or demolition of the rental unit to force existing tenants to move out of the premises. This should have a 12-month coverage. Three, landlord accessibility to inside of premises for emergencies only. Landlords should only have access to the inside of the property for emergency related issues as they arise during this state of emergency to protect exposure to all tenants but specifically to protect immune compromised individuals and our children. Protection of health is paramount and prevents harassment tactics.
Four, rent increase freeze. During the state of emergency prevents landlord from forcing out tenants due to higher rent. A 12 month coverage during phased economy reopening potential upcoming positive spikes and future lockdowns with less income to be earned by working citizens. Five, private right of action against landlord who violates the eviction moratorium ensures legally savvy landlords to not circumvent ordinance language gaps. A nominal fine should be applied to violating landlords.
Six, ordinance extension should follow other local regions, LA City and County in suggesting this moratorium is extended to August 31st 2020 And seven, deferred payment plan. Determine this to be paid within six months after the moratorium ends or is repealed. Time is of the essence for our officials to act during your scheduled meeting on Tuesday May 12th. Regards Kevin Sharpton.
Thank you Mr. Sharpton
and we will now return to the phone with Sharon Byrne to be followed by Cliff Gerson Sharon, can you
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do it? You okay for me to go ahead? Yes. Thank you. Hi this is Sharon Verne with the Montecito Association and I just want to say first of all thank you to all the agencies and to the county for the great work that you're doing through We will be discussing masks actually tonight in our board meeting, and I'm not sure how that's going to come out because Montecito has a kind of a weird case where the city requires mask wearing on Coast Village Road businesses but the rest of the county does not so it's been a bit confusing. And there's been some feedback from merchants that compliance varies from friendly to hostile. I also want to say thank you to Sheriff Brown and to the behavioral wellness department for helping us with a seriously thorny problem Along the railroad tracks and on the trails between Olive Mill and the Miramar Beach area.
We are still struggling with some overwhelm on our trails, particularly the Hot Springs Trail and Cold Spring Trailhead and also at Butterfly and Miramar Beaches to Hammond. We're finding that people are using the residential neighborhoods for bathrooms and trash bins. The concern here is not so much about physical distancing which we feel is not quite a problem but it's more about Camping and you know health concerns associated with people using, you know the neighborhood for a restroom And serious trash and litter profusion and those trails in those beaches have been open for decades We've just not seen this kind of behavior before which makes it feel to us like it is non-local That are they're doing this and the trail foundation has been really shocked to discover the building of fire rings on the hot springs Trailhead again something new and unencountered before Um, which creates a fire hazard.
So what would really be helpful is some visual cues in terms of temporary signage that would at least send out a message that hey you know conditions around here are controlled it's not a free-for-all um and you know that if we could deploy it the way we did during the fire and debris flows because this also is an emergency but this would be super appropriate very helpful and would send those visual cues even if enforcement is light at best So I just wanted to offer those comments to you, and hopefully it doesn't have to be a sort of two-week ordinance passage timeframe that maybe you could do something on an emergency basis just to abate a problem that's happening for now. Thank you.
Thank You Ms. Byrne
And we will now go to Cliff Gearson on the phone to be followed by a letter read into the record
OK, hi. Good afternoon. My name is Cliff Gerst and I'm a resident at 63 Humphrey Road in Montecito. I'm just calling in today to comment on the beach situation. Recently we've had several weeks of confinement and we had a spate of really good weather which brought a lot of people to the beach I'm not sure how many people were local Santa Barbarians or how many people came up from Ventura, Oxnard and below. But our beaches have been really packed particularly at the Miramar and Hammonds Beach and Butterfly Beach which is my usual area.
I'm concerned first of all about the parking. Not sure if emergency vehicles can get down our narrow street there on Humphrey Road I think there probably are a lot of family groups, but then I often see a lot of young people who were close and kind of taking things like they normally would. And finally, I'm concerned about the People who are using the trails and the roadside parking areas as bathrooms.
We're finding dirty diapers, we're finding toilet paper, we're finding human excrement on the trails and where people park which is really pretty gross it's a health department issue it's a real health issue especially in this time of COVID. And then finally of course there's some homeless encampments on the railroad tracks between Thank you very much.
We will now go to public comment from Jim Nell of SEMA Corporation. We employ over 250 people, most laid off in our businesses and leased over 200 merchants, most closed down in Santa Barbara, Goleta and Santinez. Dear Board of Supervisors, the Board of Supervisors must act now before many aspects of health in our community collapse due to the failure to implement a common sense approach to opening the local economy. The broad reaching and burdensome nature of the state's recently announced opening guidelines and checklists As well as the criteria the counties must meet to further open their local economies undermines the greater health in Santa Barbara County.
Though some businesses could open on Friday, there's still too much ambiguity and discrimination on the nature and types of businesses That can open and the requirements to remain open. After almost two months of a shutdown, small businesses cannot hold on any longer. Therefore I ask the Board of Supervisors to eliminate the uncertainty and adopt a common sense plan that opens all aspects of the local economy by June 1st.
The Board of Supervisors has the chance to do the right thing. Any further delay will further devastate the physical, mental, emotional, educational, and financial health of our community. Don't just fight one community health risk at the expense of all other aspects of our health. Sincerely, James P. Nell, Concerned Citizen.
Thank you Mr. Connell.
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And we will now go to the phone for Valerie Arroyo.
Okay good afternoon Chair Hart and members of the board my name is Valerie and I live on Thank you. Good morning, everyone. My name is Barbara County Board of Supervisors and I'm here to talk about Humphrey Road near Miramar Beach. And my concern is the last couple of weeks have been really brutal on our neighborhood beach visitors have been using our street as a toilet. Our Montecito beaches are community beaches intended for short stays only therefore there's no Gas stations and everything are closed. You can't use a public restroom. In the last 15 years that we've lived there, this has never been a problem until these past four weeks. The visitors are coming in droves gathering having parties leaving behind overflowing trash cans and there is human waste everywhere.
We've reached out to the sheriff several times. I have emailed Doss and Darcelle several times, but still nothing is being done. Last weekend we opened our front door to see that someone had desiccated on our neighbor's fence across the street. We've also caught several visitors with their pants down right in front of our yard just peeing and pooping right there.
I just believe that this is a major health concern. And it's all due to this COVID thing, but who's going to clean this up? That's one of our major concerns here. It's just everywhere. I hiked Hot Springs yesterday and there is toilet paper and human waste everywhere up there as well. People have begun spray painting and everyone's saying that it could be the homeless, but it's actually not. It actually visitors that are pulling up in their cars anxious You know we don't really want the port-a-potty there but I guess during this time it's pretty essential. So that's what I had to say about that and you know, I understand you guys are busy with all of It's really unfortunate. So thank you for your time. Thank you for your call
We will now go to public comment from Hannah Lawrence. Dear Board of Supervisors, I appreciate the opportunity to submit a comment on the temporary eviction moratorium ordinance. I'd like to request that my comments be read into the record. As you know many people in Santa Barbara are currently unable to pay rent due to unemployment as a result of the COVID-19 crisis.
While many homeowners and landlords are being given forbearance options, renters are going to be left to fend for themselves once the eviction moratorium is lifted. For that reason I am demanding support for a year long period to pay back any rent related debt beginning once the moratorium expires. Further, according to the most recent counts nearly 2,000 people are currently experiencing homelessness in Santa Barbara County. Nearly 1,000 in the city of Santa Barbara. Currently only 68 hotel rooms have been secured via project room key which is insufficient given our population.
I demand that the sit and lie ordinances that were expanded to include the areas surrounding Kaseek and Milpas be kept temporary as they will in the long run victimize people living or staying in the area. I also demand that more action be taken towards expanding the amount of housing being allocated as a response to this crisis, and that the city shift their efforts towards housing people without expanding sit-and-lie ordinances. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, Hannah Lawrence, Santa Barbara resident.
Thank you Ms. Lawrence.
Chair Hart and members of the board we will now go to the phone with Jamie Guillermo to be followed by Hillary Hauser
Hi, thank you Dr. Hart and the Board of Supervisors. I am Janie Guillermo of Santa Barbara. I'm a retired nurse of 40 years. I worked in public health intensive care units for 10 years and years of experience as a past faculty at Santa Barbara City College. My comments are on questions for Dr. Anzorg or Dr. Reynoso or maybe Cottage Hospital Systems Infection Control Doctor While I understand the complexity of the antibody testing for the general public, I heard they are using antibody treatment in the hospital.
And my question is, is the antibiotic treatment, antibody treatment effective? And then I have a couple more questions. How would you like me to... Let me just read all of them and then come back.
Yes please and we'll take your questions as part of our deliberations. So go ahead and please just add your questions.
Is the antibody treatment effective in the hospitals? Are they finding it? And if the antibody treatment is effective, how is the supply of the antibodies? And I'm wondering if there's a need for further antibody testing of people who may have had COVID-19 and securing more blood supply the gamma globulin that holds the antibodies if we can have some of that on hand for treatment of patients in the hospital.
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Thank you for your questions.
Chair Hart, members of the board. We will now go to Hillary Hauser. All right and Hilary can you mute your TV on your end for me?
Yes. Oh hi. Hi chair Hart. Members of the board, it's Hillary Houser, Director of Heal the Ocean. But I'm speaking as a citizen mostly in citizen in quarantine. I want to echo comments made by previous speakers. The problem with the three Montecito beaches, Miramar, Hampton and Butterfly Beach is untenable. On sunny days more of which are coming up shoulder-to-shoulder on these beaches I have a picture from last Saturday that I'm sending to the Hannah Beth Jackson Coronavirus Town Hall meeting tomorrow because we've got to get some help from somewhere.
As others have said, check with the license plates show it's mostly out-of-towners who are coming from counties where beaches are regulated. I have asked this before and I'll ask you again That if we have regulations like Ventura has, which is please use the beaches. Use it for exercise, walk and but don't loiter. Don't use it for camping out. Don't bring chairs, umbrellas, blankets, coolers and all this stuff that ends up in piles of trash left by overstuffed trash. This mess has to be fixed. And yes I have all the pictures that have been sent to me by the neighbors of all this defecation in their yard.
And I'm sending back to Hannah Beth as well, because we have to get local help and if we can't get the regulations for these three beaches that don't have facilities and just yes come to the beach do not sit around and please keep the distancing Regulations that are still in effect from the governor. It's not being practiced on the beach at all and so whatever you can do, I would really appreciate and otherwise we will try to get help from the state.
One last P.S., on the homeless issue which is becoming really a problem, Heal The Ocean has been documenting all the camps From Summerlin to Goleta. With the latitude, longitude with close-up pictures working with the sheriff to county sheriff to get this information down. We believe that Santa Barbara has to start moving in the direction of San Francisco, Los Angeles other cities that have created a shelter, a big shelter for the homeless with food Shelter, clothing whatever it takes to get them off the streets and so forth. Thank you so much for your time and all you do.
Thank You Miss Hauser
And we will now go to our final speaker Renee O'Neill
I want to thank the supervisors and, I'm sorry this is Renee O'Neill. I live in Tepeskay Canyon. Want to thank supervisors and county health agencies for their oversight and daily updates on the coronavirus. I also want to add in my opinion I think Governor Newsom is doing an outstanding job as a result of his quick decision to shut down our state in response Escalating cases in New York, our state is not facing the same level of crisis. And I applaud everyone in Santa Barbara County residents, health officials, everyone for doing what they can to support and maintain those efforts. Hopefully with a reduction in the status of cases and science etc will help our governing authorities make informed and responsible decisions.
In regard to the comments I've heard from Montecito and other outlying areas, it brought to mind something that Sheriff Brown spoke about. Stopping actions that jeopardize the health and safety of others. In Tepeskay Canyon we have a plethora of cannabis farms. This year is the first year I have observed the cannabis growers that use Portable johns to transport human waste without the benefit of the pump trucks that have typically come out here over the years to pump these units before they are hauled.
When I observe them and document them going through our driveway, they leave our driveway and instead of heading into Santa Maria where appropriate disposal stations would be These units are transported on unstable, tiny little trailers to another cannabis farm in our community where I can only assume they're being dumped because shortly afterward they return here and there's no way they could make a trip to Santa Maria and back in that period of time. So that's a concern. Another concern is the escalation Illicit activity.
And one thing I wanted to let you hear on my phone recording is what it sounds like to have a bullet, a large caliber bullet going through your property. So bear with me. I'm gonna start to play the recording on my cell phone
Ms. O'Neill, you only have eight seconds left. This
is the first time this has occurred and because we have the illicit operations out here which are not enforced on, I get concerned.
Renee?
Yes? Your time is up. I'm sorry what?
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Thank you Ms.O'Neill, appreciate your comments.
I've got to get my phone to the proper point in the recording
All right, we return the matter to the Board of Supervisors. Supervisor Williams?
Well I have one question about our rent moratorium that was done under the discretionary powers that the state gave us and then it was followed up by a statewide order I guess the question is, do we need to renew it? Or does the statewide order apply in force and then maybe I would request at a Later date to be informed because there's many requests that tenants have done some of which I did not know were in the constitutional powers of a local government. And so I just kind of wanted County council's opinion on that, but I don't need to take up more time of deliberation today. Just just something in there
Mr. Ghazani do you want to summarize?
Chair and Supervisors we're prepared to address that within one of the governor's executive orders number N2820 That was the parent document for this Restraint on evictions, which states that it expires at the state level on May 31st and less extended So that would be subject to a further extension By the governor the county's actions followed With that authority that that's in there The county then had the authority locally to do something similar but would not have the authority to do something similar without the governor generally waiving that portion of general California law So we're watching that, but I think that would be an item to track with the governor's office in terms of whether they plan to extend that in a future executive order.
We have had some success working with the governor's office on some portions of executive orders.
And of course my desire would be to extend it if the governor's discretion is also extended to us. And then the other one is you can tell from the public comment that people have attempted to get redress. I have attempted on their behalf to get redress and there has been some discussions at staff level, and the answer has been Our authority is to restrict parking for the sake of.
I understand that and I my hope would be that the board then expands that power. So we could do temporary parking restrictions similar to other jurisdictions have been able to You know, what happens when all the businesses are shut down? The businesses that normally empty the trash cans and the businesses that normally people go to use the restroom. What happens when all that's shut down for most of Montecito?
And this is what happens and I think the ability for Someone on staff to be able to put temporary parking restrictions in place is a reasonable ask on behalf of the residents.
Mr. Ghazani, did you have a comment?
Chair and supervisors so having heard the discussion earlier we had some people working on this in background and spoke briefly with Sheriff's Office Road Commissioner and CEO And if the board wanted to direct County Council today We would come back after coordinating with CEO sheriff and the road commissioner with an urgency ordinance Under the California Emergency Service Act that would accomplish this delegation is how we would recommend it delegation to the Road Commissioner To post temporary no parking restrictions including parking time limits where and when needed in the unincorporated County to prevent unhealthy overcrowding of parking areas and to set that up So those parking restrictions would be enforceable by the sheriff's office, and we believe we could do that fairly quickly Okay.
Thank you. Supervisor Hartman
A couple of questions, so is it just Miramar and Butterfly beaches? So really the issue is rather narrowly drawn because we have public facilities available at other public beaches. Is that correct?
Yeah, I mean, I think that there have been on busy weekends some crowding issues elsewhere. But some of the impacts are alleviated by the fact that in Summerland, Rincon, Loon Point we have public facilities. We have bathrooms, we have public parking lots, we have a greater level At those spots. But we don't, you know the other jurisdictions that have controlled parking on streets have an ordinance and it turns out we don't. And so what I'm asking for is simply that we would have the same ability to temporary restrict that the city of Carpentaria or other jurisdictions do
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Supervisor Lavanino.
Thank you, Chair Hart. I'd just like to ask Mr. Gazzone and all this conversation that we've had in a lot of the input I'm getting from a lot of my constituents, of course is that they're ready to, everybody wants to go back to work and other people are telling them that they need to come to us and we're the ones that can make the decision. If you could touch on just for a second what the risks would be For us as a county, if we did something like a MODOC or a Sutter County, something like that. If you could address that?
Chair and supervisors, so not hypothetical risks. Earlier this week the Governor's Office of Emergency Services informed some other counties including Sutter that they had taken steps inconsistent with the governor's orders and that in part those actions could threaten the county's eligibility to disaster funding. Which is a significant point. Also, the legal framework in this area is that the executive orders by the governor shall have the force and effect of law.
And that the state public health officer is charged with monitoring the actions of local health departments. And when they feel that those actions are not consistent with the state direction to enforce those actions, to be consistent. So there's quite a bit of authority under the Emergency Services Act for the governor and the public health officer. I could do more but I think that's what you're looking for. Supervisor Lavenino?
Yeah it was. You know, I think one of the things we're talking about Some of that emergency funding is what's going to allow us to help reopen the county. So I just want folks to understand, you know, I think if you listen to the members of this board it sounds like a lot of us are saying the same things and we are trying to actively negotiate with the governor to get criteria that would allow us to open sooner But I am getting quite a bit of pushback from folks that are just like, hey, just go do it.
And I just want to let them know what is at risk. You know, it would be – I try to tell people it would be easy for me to do it because it's not – although it's putting the county's eligibility for emergency funding at risk, it's also all those people that need a state license to operate they're putting themselves at risk so I just want that weighed out in people's minds as well of what is at stake.
So balancing that. All right.
Yeah, I have a comment on that. You know, Annette, of course somebody litigates and finds out whether or not this is actually an emergency. And I've been hearing from a lot of my constituents and frankly a lot of the rest of your constituents That this, we've gone by the emergency and I don't expect that there's going to be a lot of appetite to fight about that on this board. But people in the community should know that it's possible that if they went out and just did what I'm hearing a number of people threatened to do is just go out and operate their businesses, Any kind of licensure that they're held by the state or issued by the state, they would have to probably litigate that at some point if push came to shove.
And that's how our society moves forward. There's nothing wrong with that it's just whether You know, each individual person has the appetite to pursue that and finish the job. Because it's hard and it's expensive and takes a long time.
Supervisor Hartman?
Thank you. I just wanted to follow up on a public commenter's question about antibody testing and we did hear earlier from Dr. Ansorg that that was being used, the treatment rather at the Cottage Hospital and so the question from the nurse who commented was how is the supply and is there a need for people who've tested positive to contribute in some way?
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Supervisor Hartman through the chair. I don't have the information, but I'm more than happy to put together, do the research and talk to Cottage and Marion and our local partners and come back next Tuesday with a response to those three questions. Thank
you. And I just want to thank you for all the other research you're doing. We don't always ask you all the questions here at the board meetings, but we're asking you questions and Terry Mosnisch as well behind the scenes and you're very responsive and thank you it's much appreciated. Thank
you.
I did have, with regard to Supervisor Williams and the issues at Miramar and Butterfly, if something could be drawn very narrowly that deals with private streets, I think it's really important that we have people out and about for mental and physical health. I believe that some of the beaches in south South of us will be opening up and that may relieve some of the pressure. We heard from our sheriff as well, that he thinks that for the most part education and the kind of work he's been doing so far is successful. But if we have a localized problem, if we could develop a tool to deal with that narrowly I would be supportive of that.
Supervisor Williams or Mr. Ghazali actually, I think you wanted to get in
just since we're gonna be drafting this for you if we could By the end of this, just get a good sense of what you're looking for. I know we can provide temporary no parking restriction ordinance for you. Our thought would be to have that delegation go to the road commissioner and either within the text of that delegation or through the spirit of your comments urge that that be used narrowly and even have the road commissioner report back from time-to-time for a check in on that.
Unless we're prepared to give me specifics of the areas, we could probably draft the ordinance in fairly general terms. Have the spirit of the board conveyed when it comes back and then have the road commissioner report back on the use of that ordinance which would be one way to regulate its use. And also in keeping with the sheriff's approach of education and discretion, the fact that an area is set up as temporary no parking or a two-hour limit does not mean everybody's going to get a citation the first time out either.
Supervisor Williams?
I hope that would be sufficient for my colleagues. Our road commissioner is not a heavy hand of government type, he's not going to be issuing these willy nilly. To me we just need to be ready for changing conditions out there in the next month or two. We don't know whether we'll need it or won't but it seems to me from The public comment that we have needed it and that it would be useful.
Is there the potential that the Coastal Commission would want to weigh in on this?
There's always the potential for that in other areas of the Emergency Act. The Board's authority under 8634 is very broad on this and I feel that these would be reasonable restrictions, limited in time, limited in location.
Okay there you go. Alright I think everything that has been raised has been discussed now and is Supervisor Williams do you want to make a motion?
Sure, I would just move that we approve A, B, C and D. And C be that we ask county council to return with an urgency temporary road closure or temporary road restrictions ordinance to the board as soon as possible.
Absolutely. The seconder says narrowly drawn. Are you seconding it? Okay, yes thank you. Any more discussion? Anybody? Supervisor Lavinia are you ready to vote? Okay I think this has been a really helpful very comprehensive presentation thank you all the staff Folks are working still extraordinary hours and starting to look tired. Not that you don't look great, but I'm feeling tired so we'll put it that way. And thanks for your patience and your perseverance and your commitment to keeping us all safe. I think Supervisor Lavinino said it really well. We actually do agree a great deal about this and that is why our letter, I think makes the point very clearly that we hope the governor takes us seriously in our unique circumstances with the Lompoc prison.
deserve his very specific examination of our circumstances and some lessening of the criteria that makes it very difficult for us as Dr. Dover knows to describe. And I'm glad that we're together on this. Mr. Ghazani, you wanted to add something else?
Chair, just on Supervisor Williams' motion that I understood those to be temporary parking restrictions not an actual road closure if I understood that correctly and also I'll just take the moment to shout out a thank you to our Road Commissioner Scott McGulpin and our County Council Division Chief Michelle Montes who are both in background working on this so that we could deliver you something today.
Thank you very much for all of the work. Madam Clerk would you please call the roll? Aye.
Mr. Williams?
Aye.
Ms. Hartman? Aye. Mr. Adam?
Aye
Chair Hart?
Aye
Motion passes unanimously
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That concludes our business for today we are now adjourned to Tuesday May 19th 2020 thank you all
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