BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 July 16, 2020

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:33 · ≈ 1:00 PM

Hi.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:12 · ≈ 1:02 PM

Good afternoon, I'll now call to order the July 16th 2020 special meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. Would the clerk please call the roll?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:21 · ≈ 1:02 PM

Mr. Lavinino? Mr Lavinino? There

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:33 · ≈ 1:02 PM

you are! Mr. Lavinino?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:45 · ≈ 1:02 PM

I think we have an audio problem. I don't think they...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:48 · ≈ 1:02 PM

I heard Supervisor Adam.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:50 · ≈ 1:02 PM

Yep, okay now I can hear you Jacqueline.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:54 · ≈ 1:02 PM

Great. Okay

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:54 · ≈ 1:02 PM

thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:55 · ≈ 1:02 PM

you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:57 · ≈ 1:02 PM

Would the clerk please call the roll?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:59 · ≈ 1:02 PM

Mr. Lavagnino

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:01 · ≈ 1:03 PM

Here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:02 · ≈ 1:03 PM

Mr. Williams

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:04 · ≈ 1:03 PM

Here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:05 · ≈ 1:03 PM

Ms. Hartman Here. Mr. Adam

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed3:08 · ≈ 1:03 PM

Here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:09 · ≈ 1:03 PM

Chair Hart

Pledge of Allegianceceremonial · click to expand · ≈12s recited, not transcribed
UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:10 · ≈ 1:03 PM

Here At this time, please join me and the board in pledging allegiance to the flag.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:16 · ≈ 1:03 PM

Ready?

CommentLorena OrtizProposed · by introduction3:17 · ≈ 1:03 PM

Begin.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:18 · ≈ 1:03 PM

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed3:23 · ≈ 1:03 PM

and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. First two words is ready begin.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:38 · ≈ 1:03 PM

CEO Miyasato, is there a CEO report today? Chair Hart no report this morning. Thank you very much. Madam Clerk are there any announcements or changes to our agenda?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:50 · ≈ 1:03 PM

Chair Hart and members of the board I just have one quick announcement for members of the public who are tuning into our meeting today. Just a reminder if they'd like to participate in public comment whether that is general public comment for items not on today's agenda or items that are on today's agenda Please call 805-568-2240 and state your name, your phone number, and which item you would like to speak on. And we will call you at the appropriate time.

Momentarily, you will see scrolling of that number as well. Again, that's 805-562-2240. And if members of the public can please make every effort to be available when the clerk calls you and mute all streaming devices once it is your turn to speak, that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:38 · ≈ 1:04 PM

Now is the time

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:39 · ≈ 1:04 PM

for members of the public to speak on items that are not on the agenda. Are there any requests to speak on items today that are not on the agenda?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:46 · ≈ 1:04 PM

Chair Hart and Members of the Board, we have three requests to speak on general

public comment. We're going to begin with Judy Polson to be followed by Hazel Mortensen.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:23 · ≈ 1:05 PM

Good afternoon. We are the Lemon Farmers in Santa Maria and I wanted to continue the dialogue from Tuesday. To reiterate, we are requesting the Board of Supervisors act on adopting hemp regulations that protect residences and current businesses because hemp is an ex-cannabis. It is the same plant with the same nuisances especially odor. I was heartened to hear Supervisor Hartman address the odor The odor is not like other commodities, it is a public nuisance. And I was also encouraged to hear Supervisor Williams acknowledge the threat and seriousness of hemp cultivation and his desire to do something if he could.

Well the good news is you can do something as most California counties already have done something. I've talked with every county in California and here are those statistics. 43 of the 58 counties in California are acting on this threat. Twenty-one have adopted or drafted regulations, including SLO and Ventura. Twenty-two currently have moratoriums in place for the specific purpose of adopting land use regulations.

The regulations in some cases include a ban on research institutions or a limitation of one acre for research. But controlling the research institutions was just a side benefit. The reason California counties have proactively put land use regulations in place is because they know the state plan does not address land use. And this is an extremely important point, both the federal plan and the proposed state plans do not include land use regulations by design. Restrictions like minimum acreage, setbacks, odor mitigation are not included And CDFA has specifically stated they expect each county to develop their own land use regulations, as was done with cannabis.

Now in 2017 you put an urgency ordinance in place forbidding hemp cultivation stating the purpose and intent of this interim urgency ordinance is to study and establish land use regulations concerning medical non-marijuana and industrial hemp Now 10 days prior to the expiration of each urgency ordinance, a written report describing measures taken to alleviate the condition is required.

Well it hasn't been alleviated and my question is why? And where are these reports? Hemp is the new cannabis and without land use regulations in place by October 2020 you will be opening the floodgates I am asking you to formally place this on your agenda and put land use regulations in place to protect residences and businesses. You can do something. Counties throughout California have already done a great deal.

Hoping the hemp market will crash or the state plan will deter growers is not a strategy. Fearing lawsuits, or what your constituents might say or do is not an excuse for inaction You know, you were elected to act ethically in accomplishing your mission to provide a healthy, safe and prosperous environment.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.858:36 · ≈ 1:08 PM

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed8:37 · ≈ 1:08 PM

you. Do that. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed8:41 · ≈ 1:08 PM

Thank you, Miss Paulson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed8:48 · ≈ 1:08 PM

We will now go to Hazel Mortensen to be followed by Renee O'Neill

CommentHazel MortensonProposedself-stated9:09 · ≈ 1:09 PM

Thank you. Good afternoon, my name is Hazel Mortenson a resident of Solvang. I am totally opposed to the horse-drawn carriage we have here. A previous owner was an ex convict who had no money for hay and a reporter phoned asking me for money to pay for the hay. The fellow hired Newspaper as he cared about the horses being hungry. I immediately took the money to their office.

I then phoned the previous mayor and asked why the city allowed such a man to risk lives in an overcrowded city? I was told we needed the Honan as the tourists want it. I told him, he was a disgrace to allow such an operator to risk tourist lives. We now have new owners The City Council told them horses cannot be working above a certain temperature, and by law they are only allowed so many passengers on rides. Unfortunately, they don't comply with these conditions.

When I speak before our council, I am screamed and yelled at and called a liar and mentally ill over the microphone. In addition, after I and another woman spoke We both receive crank phone calls every few minutes. I finally picked up the phone and said, I know you're members of the Honan's family and I have put the tape recorder on my phone. Call me one more time and the police will visit you.

The other woman they have scared off she is afraid. I want no part of my brawl we can't let them control us. The horses need our voices to get justice. Please help these beautiful creatures, thank you kindly.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed11:08 · ≈ 1:11 PM

Thank you Ms. Mortenson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed11:10 · ≈ 1:11 PM

We will now go to our final speaker Renee O'Neill

CommentRenee O'NeillProposed11:42 · ≈ 1:11 PM

Good afternoon, Supervisors. I imagine it's interesting for you to be hearing from me on this particular topic but I wanted to thank you one for the decision you made on Tuesday regarding the EDRN we really really appreciate that step today I'm speaking in regard to following up with that with Concerns that cannabis farms that are banned in the EDRN could potentially become hemp farm. So I am making a formal administrative request that the board schedule hearing for developing land use regulations on hemp.

The state regulations that were established for legalizing marijuana and recreational marijuana under Article 10 were in place. But unlike marijuana, state and federal plans do not include restrictions like minimum acreage or setbacks and things like that. So the California Department of Food and Agriculture has specifically stated that they expect our counties to develop their own hemp land use regulations. And it is my understanding that we have a deadline to meet on that, and it's coming up very quickly.

I encourage you and urge you to please schedule that hearing as soon as possible so we don't overstep the deadline. And there's so many similar concerns with cannabis and hemp, not just the odor but the need for security. The other major concern is it consumes way more water than cannabis does. And causes very similar problems. So that's my request for today, and I again thank you for your decisions on Tuesday. We are very much relieved by that and I can't thank you enough for that.

For the supervisors who voted. Doss, I have something to say And Supervisor Lavinino. It seems like every time I'm watching you, you are on your cell phone like 90% of the time in these meetings texting. This is... I feel like you aren't listening. I feel like we are not being given the time of day because you're distracted with cell phones and or eating. Any comments?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed14:28 · ≈ 1:14 PM

I do. I respond to the many emails from you so that is one of the times that I am able to respond to your emails and in fact, you have in the past relied on my ability to read it in a public hearing because when your public comment has not come through or you have had trouble giving public comment in our current format, I have been able to alert staff of that. So in fact, my reading my email is what enabled in two occasions you to be able to do public comment at all so it's very strange for you to then get mad at me about it.

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CommentJonathan AbboudProposedself-stated15:13 · ≈ 1:15 PM

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed15:14 · ≈ 1:15 PM

you Mr.

CommentJonathan AbboudProposedself-stated15:14 · ≈ 1:15 PM

Chair.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed15:15 · ≈ 1:15 PM

That concludes our public comments

the next item is department item number one would the clerk please read that item into the record?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed15:22 · ≈ 1:15 PM

Chair Hart and members of the board, departmental item number one is from the county executive office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding our report on criminal justice and racial equity in Santa Barbara County.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed15:35 · ≈ 1:15 PM

Thank you. Mr. Malekian are you making the report? Thank you.

CommentCriminal Justice DataProposed15:40 · ≈ 1:15 PM

Chair Hart and members of the board, thank you for the opportunity today to continue the dialogue from June 11th on the issues of racial equity in specifically within the criminal justice system of Santa Barbara County. Before I begin, I do want and I've talked with the clerk of the board. There is a minor addition that needs to be made to the board letter appendix in in the criminal justice report Appendix A list 15 recommendations Only recommendations number 14 and 15 did not make it into the board letter.

We'll be working with the clerk to make that modification so that all 15 recommendations are part of that record. Thank you for that clarification I Have if I might digress For at least a moment nearly 50 years in law enforcement and local government And the issue of racial inequity And the role that criminal justice has played in that, has been part of that discussion for almost my entire career.

We are having yet another discussion in the aftermath of another tragedy and it feels as though perhaps that this might be a moment in which we can move in a different direction and make some changes that are long overdue We tend to focus, I think on the actions of individuals as opposed to focusing on the impacts of our systems. And the discussion that we are having today and the purpose of this report is to talk about the criminal justice system in this county with a particular focus on the average daily population.

As part of the inequity that we talk about when we have a national conversation one of the primary issues if not the primary issue Is the discussion about the number of people who are incarcerated in local jails and local prisons. The focus of this issue, the discussion about this issue both in this county and nationally did not begin on Memorial Day with the killing of George Floyd.

The discussion has been underway for quite some time and we reached a point I'll talk about some more specifics in a bit. But we reached the point where we were poised on a precipice to take some actions and only not jokingly at all, a lot of us have said along came COVID and COVID came first and COVID drove a number of changes that we had only been talking about.

And the question for today is what were those changes? What was the impact of those changes and which of those changes should we consider keeping in the days ahead? The issue of reducing the average daily population in our county jail has been, it's really been on the forefront for over a decade since the sheriff was first elected and convened the blue ribbon panel on jail overcrowding.

But it really took off in 2016 with the introduction of the stepping up program, which was approved by this board and whose focus was the diversion of mentally ill people out of the jail and into treatment facilities. We began an experimental program in co-response models which paired a law enforcement officer, a sheriff's deputy in this case with a trained psychiatric social worker to respond to calls involving the mentally ill and following up on patrol related calls where that team hadn't been available.

In 2019 at the direction of CEO Miyasato, we began a process that we call referred to as criminal justice mapping. And the intent of that project was to look at our system from the point in the field in which someone might be contacted by law enforcement to their adjudication at the end of a court process however long that process took. The focus of that criminal justice mapping effort was really to do two things. One was to intensify the effort of looking at the number of mentally ill people that were in the jail and could we get them into treatment? And secondly, could we make our system more efficient so that the use of incarceration was not the only tool that the system had to offer?

In 2020 as everyone is aware beginning in middle of March, the COVID pandemic began And a number of the steps we're going to talk about for the next few minutes were really taken in response to that pandemic and in response, or concerted desire to lower the risk for both incarcerated people and staff in our county jail system. And then on Memorial Day came the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis.

And the national focus on the issue of social justice, of inequities in the criminal justice system and a demand for change across the board. When I talk about the fact that the effort in this county has been underway for quite some time, I would call your attention to this chart which does not reflect any of the actions that were taken in response to COVID.

But in the response to changes in the law, changes in pretrial supervision practices, et cetera, that show a steady decline from 2016 to 2019 of nearly 16% in the average daily population in the jail and if this projection, and again it does not include what happened this year would have ultimately seen about a 26% decline by the year 2025 So this focus on reducing that population has been underway for some time.

A number of efforts have gone into that, particularly around the area of diversion. We're going to talk in greater length about several grants that the criminal justice mapping team procured The use of specialty courts such as mental health court, drug treatment court, veterans court and other specialty courts within the court system. And I should stop for a second and remind everyone that's listening because this becomes a source of confusion from time to time.

That the courts are no longer an official part of the county family of the county system. With the integration of, or rather the consolidation of the courts. They are actually state offices and state entities. We work very closely with them and they have been a direct active partner in the criminal justice mapping process but their administrative oversight occurs from the State Judicial Council and not from the county.

Co-response teams we have mentioned.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed23:07 · ≈ 1:23 PM

Mr. McKeon, I'm sorry, we're having a technical difficulty with the PowerPoint and CSP TV. We can see it here in the room but it isn't unfortunately able to broadcast so if we could just take a brief break and work out the technology of that and we'll come right back. I apologize for the delay. We'll reconvene the Board of Supervisors meeting and now we've fixed our technical challenge. Mr. Mulligan, I apologize but thank you for going back to show this chart.

CommentCriminal Justice DataProposed26:11 · ≈ 1:26 PM

Chair Hart, members of the board. Thank you. The chart in front of you reflects the actual and projected average daily population in the jail on an annual basis. And it shows that a number of the diversion efforts which I will discuss in a second that have been underway along with changes in the law between 2016 and 2019 reduced the average daily population by 15.8%, a little over 100 people.

The chart that's in front of you does not reflect the reductions that we're going to discuss that occurred in 2020 in response to COVID. And as you can see, the decline was projected to continue to reach an almost 26% reduction from the 2016 numbers by 2025. Some of the efforts that county departments have been employing in a broader sense, both independently and as part of the criminal justice mapping issue are the acquisition of several grants.

The use of specialty courts within the court system, mental health court, drug treatment court, veterans' courts, et cetera. The creation of a crisis stabilization unit and a sobering center under the auspices of behavioral wellness A holistic defense program put forward by the Public Defender's Office, which is really quite revolutionary in the sense that it seeks not just to deal with the client's case but really to try to impact the client's life and to keep the client from being recycled back through the program.

The district attorney has a misdemeanor diversion program. The sheriff's office has a highly successful treatment program within the jail, and probation has undertaken a number of housing-related issues to help their clients succeed and avoid again reduce that recidivism number. There are a couple of other Areas that have been looked at in terms of ways to lower the recidivism rate and help people improve their lives. And one is this concept of restorative justice. It's been tried in other parts of the country such as Providence, Rhode Island with a great deal of success and most recently here in Isla Vista as part of a collaborative neighborhood effort.

One of the areas that is very definitely worth looking at in addition to average daily population is admissions and while there are several routes by which someone can end up The admission numbers are the numbers of bookings per year into the jail. This is not the same as the number of unique individuals. A person could be arrested multiple times. But as you can see from this actual numbers between 2016 and 2019, the 21.3% decline in the number of admissions into the jail on an annual basis. And had this continued Again, this chart does not... The 2020 numbers reflect a projection. They do not reflect what actually occurred as a result of the COVID pandemic but the estimate was that by 2023 the number of admissions would have declined almost 45% from 2016 so there was a concerted effort already underway to attempt to reduce the number of people who were being brought into the jail system As I mentioned, in 2019 we began the Criminal Justice Mapping Project.

It included all of the criminal justice partners, the Sheriff's Office, the District Attorney, the Probation Department, the Public Defender's Office and the Department of Behavioral Wellness. And I need to take a moment because normally one might not think of the Behavioral Wellness Department as one of the criminal justice partners, but in fact they have been an absolute critical player in the acquisition of grants and the development of policies and treatment protocols both within and after incarceration.

The focus, as I mentioned earlier of the mapping project was to reduce the jail population and to divert people out of the criminal justice system. In the summer of 2019 we were visited by Professor Sarah Desmarais who is a nationally known expert in the field of risk assessment tools. She's from North Carolina State We actually brought her in to give us some advice on the assumption that possibly the diversion, the risk assessment tools that we were using might not be as effective as we want. And in fact she affirmed that what we were doing, the tools that we were using were more than adequate. She actually educated a lot of us on the fact that it isn't so much the tool itself but the importance of evaluating the context of the entire person and not just the tool, the risk assessment score in and of itself.

Also in the summer of 2019, the public defender Tracy McCougar acquired a grant through the Bureau of Justice Assistance called the Sixth Amendment Grant. It is overseen and administered by the Center for Court Innovation which is a national organization. They did a site visit and helped us develop a strategic plan in the fall of 2019 and they produced three basic goals. to improve the discovery process, to reduce the pretrial jail population and to make changes to the court calendar with the idea of increasing efficiency and moving people through the system more quickly and diverting them where appropriate.

As I mentioned, the criminal justice mapping group also was responsible for acquiring three grants Virtually simultaneously, and all three of which were focused on the issue of diversion. One was the State Hospital Diversion Grant, sometimes referred to as AB 1810. I'm not going to read the PowerPoint to you but its focus is really to develop or to find ways to people who are charged with felonies, arrested for felonies and in the county jail who were found incompetent to stand trial. That is their mental illness is so severe that they can't participate in their defense.

or who are in danger of becoming incompetent to stand trial, sometimes referred to as IST, are required by law to be sent to the state hospital for treatment and restoration to competency. The problem with that is very often the state hospital doesn't have enough beds and so the person sits in jail and languishes until such time as a bed becomes available. The purpose of the 1810 grant was to develop Community treatment locations. This is being overseen by Behavioral Wellness, where people can be treated and restored to competency in the community. What's not on this slide is an effort that the Sheriff is also undertaking referred to as jail-based competency treatment which also brings mental health treatment programs to incarcerated people.

The Credo 47 grant, sometimes referred to as Prop 47 was a diversion focused grant for people charged with minor crimes and it also brought one co-response team to the county which partnered a deputy sheriff and again a psychiatric social worker this actually The program that I mentioned that started in 2017 was really cobbled together out of existing resources. This made it a permanent acquisition.

And then the Sheriff most recently, in partnership with Behavioral Wellness acquired an additional grant from Vern Jagg from the U.S. Department of Justice and funded two additional co-response teams. In addition, Be Well is working with the cities of Santa Barbara and the city of Santa Maria to establish two more teams. All of this is again focused on the idea that persons who are suffering from mental illness need to be A, responded to in a different way and B if taken to someplace other than the jail.

One of our strategic goals as part of the criminal justice mapping process is to demonstrate that all three of these activities, when taken together, A, are good for the people with whom we come in contact and B, save the county money. With an idea that we can make these programs sustainable. All too often with these kinds of grants, they're very successful but when the grant comes to an end so does the program and one of our planning goals has been to determine how do we integrate this into the ongoing system beyond the life of the grant?

As I mentioned before, we got to a place where we were saying okay what's next? We had identified the problem. We had grants in place. We had strategic goals in partnership with CCI. We knew that we were on the verge of taking steps but we hadn't decided what those steps were and along came the pandemic and it decided for us The challenge in all of these discussions about diversion is that there is this balance between lowering the average daily population in the jail, letting people out either on pretrial supervision or alternative sentencing if they're convicted of a crime and maintaining public safety.

And this effort and we're going to walk through some data slides in a minute But it's been underway for just under 4 months. It is not clear that It is clear that we have lowered the jail population. The overall impact on public safety is less clear, but given that we are likely to continue in this sort of COVID model for a while, I think we will have opportunity to evaluate this.

As I mentioned, the primary way that people come into the jail is by physical arrest or by citations that are issued in lieu of arrest And which occasion, not more than occasion, about a quarter of the time end up going to warrant. But as you can see from this graphic that law enforcement activity around the county has down significantly in terms of arrests and citations. The reason for the Santa Maria number being as dramatic as it is, it combines arrest and citation. They did not disaggregate their data when they gave it to us. The other data points make a distinction between physical arrest and the issuance of citation. But in all cases, there's a significant reason why the jail population has dropped because the number of people being brought to the jail has dropped.

You can see from this chart that the jail population started to drop in mid-March. And has stayed in the 36 and 37% decline for the next three months. The reason for this is really three distinct reasons, the decrease in physical arrest that I mentioned previously, an increase in a number of people on pretrial release which was a direct result of a probation and sheriff probation and public defender project.

And the development of alternatives to jail such as Credo 47 and the crisis stabilization unit. The other part of the question, of course, is what about crime and what about public safety? If you look at the Part 1 totals on your graph, you will see that there was a 15% increase in Part 1 crime. But if you look at the graph just above that, the larceny theft Which is essentially a non-violent offense. You'll see that in terms of raw numbers, that Part 1 increase was driven by that predominantly.

And for people who may not know, Part 1 crime refers to the seven most serious felonies that are listed on there. Rape, robbery, murder, auto theft, assault, burglary and larceny theft. Part 2 crimes which are sometimes referred to as quality of life crimes, whether public intoxication disturbing the peace theft under a certain number of dollars. A decrease in activity. What's unclear is whether it's a decrease in criminal activity or a decrease in enforcement activity, and this is one of the areas that deserves further analysis but the number is significantly lower.

Ultimately, as we looked at each of the criminal justice partners in behavioral wellness were asked to answer three questions. What did you do in response to the COVID pandemic from your departmental perspective? What was the impact of that and what do you recommend doing in the future? And three, in terms of ongoing jail reduction strategies, three broad categories emerged From those discussions. One is the expansion of the capacity for pretrial diversion and supervision.

Second is the improvement of technological capacity in terms of both the ability to exchange information among the Criminal Justice Department, as well as move people through the criminal justice system in a more efficient way and get their case adjudicated or get them under supervision and not in the jail. And then lastly is a change in sentencing structure.

But ultimately the strategic question that's been raised by all of the criminal justice partners, all of whom support conceptually the notion of diversion. The big question is divert to where? It's always been the question as we talked about, where to divert mentally ill people. The county has undertaken a number of steps to develop mental health treatment capacity and increase our ability to do that. To increase the number of treatment programs for people who are battling substance abuse and other issues.

But that has to be the underlying question when we seek to balance this question of lowering the jail population and maintaining public safety. As I mentioned, there were 15 recommendations, 7 of which were a function Directly a function of the pandemic response, and eight of which were recommendations or suggestions from the criminal justice partners. I'm not going to read each one of them to you but with regards to the capacity for pretrial supervision number 14 the review of out-of-custody complaints The District Attorney's Office estimates that there are currently about 1,700 citations that have been written in lieu of arrest since the pandemic began. None of those have gone to the court system yet because the courts have been closed but one of the suggestions is that we review those citations with an eye on two things.

One is which ones can be adjudicated either without going to court and certainly without people ending up in jail. And B, a review of the section numbers that are cited for to say which of these sections should we really focus on continuing to cite as opposed to make physical arrests for? And I suspect that the criminal justice leaders will each probably address a portion of that.

The next area was the improvement of technological capacity. I would remind the board that for several years there has been a Criminal Justice Data Committee, it's overseen by Chief Heitman and the Probation Department. They have been focused very much on trying to improve And consolidate our county technological capacity as it pertains to the exchange of criminal justice information.

And to bring behavioral wellness into the fold on that, there are some HIPAA issues that we're trying to work through. But the ability to exchange information, the foundational piece for that exists and a recommendation is to strengthen the capacity of that existing committee. And then the third area is changes in sentencing structure. And I've already mentioned the review of the 1,700 citations and that number is probably a little bit greater.

So for next steps in terms of where we might want to go, I would call your attention to the second bullet point There are, and it's mentioned both in the board letter and in the attachment. We have a number of groups that work in this arena now. We have the CCP Work Group, we have Stepping Up, we have the Criminal Justice Planning Group. All of these groups exist. They work through various areas of policy and the assignment of recommendations to each of those Their feasibility or to recommend next steps for action would be I think very appropriate. And again, we don't have to create a new committee or a new group to do that.

I would propose that we bring the Center for Court Innovation strategic report. I think this board would be very interested in the work that they have done and we could come back at a later date with more information about them. And then review the maintain and modify the existing COVID protocols as appropriate. And again, it appears as though that the COVID protocols are going to stay in place at least for the near term future.

And so we will have the opportunity to gather more data. And with that, I'm going to stop and I can either answer questions about the report or we have all five of the criminal justice partners that are on tap would like to make statements to the board and answer questions. So I'll leave it to the board to decide how we proceed.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed45:50 · ≈ 1:45 PM

Well why don't we have... Thank you very much for the report. That was comprehensive and detailed and appreciate that. Are there questions for Mr. Mielecki at this point? Supervisor Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8546:02 · ≈ 1:46 PM

Yes, I had two questions. Could you talk about strengthening the capacity of the Criminal Justice Data Committee? Elaborate a little bit more what you mean by that and my next question is restorative justice and I just want to get it on the record because if we're going to hear from our criminal justice partners, I really believe that that is a very important It reflects a philosophy that I think is a very important one and how we can, as you mentioned we started that in Ivy.

People come in sullen and they leave feeling more connected to their community. And that is really important and I think we can expand that throughout the county and so those are my questions.

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CommentCriminal Justice DataProposed46:52 · ≈ 1:46 PM

So I'll start with restorative justice, which has actually been part of the national discussion for a decade. The idea being that unlike the traditional criminal justice system which really focuses on the offense committed by the suspect and that suspect's relationship to a violation of the law, restorative justice seeks to bring the victim in In some cases, the victim and the suspect may be directly interfaced with each other. In other cases, the victim helps sort of define what it would take to make them feel whole again, to make them feel put back together.

There's been some interesting studies that have come out of Yale and Brown University about people who are victims and the likelihood of them being repeat victims, in part because they end up not feeling as though the system really cared about them or what happened to them. And there's a whole dynamic that comes into place. The concept of restorative justice has been successful in the places that it has tried.

It is not without challenges in terms of bringing the right people together, in terms of developing a protocol. Isla Vista by all accounts That program seems to have been very successful. There are always questions about how does restorative justice scale up? And so when I was a police chief down in LA County, we did use a version of it and it was also very successful again because there's sort of an interconnectedness. So I think it's worth pursuing.

With regards to the Criminal Justice Data Committee, they have really done some incredible work in terms of from a technical capacity and please don't ask me to explain it because I'm not sure that I can. But what I do know is that the success that they've had has really been a function And so they're pulled in other directions. I don't think the end and talking to and talking to chief Heitman, they just really need somebody who's who's basically assigned to that project, to help pull those together on a daily basis.

And I'll let her talk in more detail about what she needs but there's no funding request attached to that so there is a methodology to do that under the existing framework.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8549:51 · ≈ 1:49 PM

I'm sorry you don't need money for the person to do that?

CommentCriminal Justice DataProposed49:55 · ≈ 1:49 PM

Chief Heitman's going to tell you in a few minutes whether I remembered our conversation correctly, but

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed49:59 · ≈ 1:49 PM

yes. It's a little preview there. Are there other questions for Mr. Malikian? Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed50:07 · ≈ 1:50 PM

Williams? Could you put up your list again there, the two slides back and one more back? The probation department and sheriff's custody

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CommentCriminal Justice DataProposed50:42 · ≈ 1:50 PM

As they were going through the list at the beginning of the pandemic, and they were going through the list. Of who was in custody and would be suitable for release given the unique set of circumstances that they found themselves in. And they selected people to be released from jail. Some of those were pre-trial some of those may have been sentenced I don't have a breakdown on that part of it.

But it really involved a sharing of information that hadn't been occurring pre-COVID.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed51:19 · ≈ 1:51 PM

Got it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed51:22 · ≈ 1:51 PM

Any questions from colleagues in Santa Maria? Okay, the next person who will be presenting is Sheriff Bill Brown and I believe we have him via Zoom.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed51:38 · ≈ 1:51 PM

And I just want to tell you, Mr. Chair, at some point I'm going to have to jump out for five minutes to vote on a CSAC committee sometime soon. We'll see you back when you're done.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed51:53 · ≈ 1:51 PM

Sheriff Brown?

CommentLorena OrtizProposed · by introduction51:56 · ≈ 1:51 PM

Thank you, Chair Hart and members of the board and members of the public. It's a pleasure to be with you today. I wanted to start some remarks to follow up with what Mr. Mielecki Said specifically zeroing in on not just what we in the sheriff's office have done. To address the jail population in the wake of COVID pandemic, but what we have done since 2007 since I was sworn into office as we've moved forward over the last 13 and a half years and what we have been able to accomplish in that regard.

We have worked tirelessly to reduce the number And we've worked to do that through a number of ways, through improved policing efforts. That includes everything from mental health crisis intervention training for all of our deputies and our dispatchers as well as community policing initiatives one of which is the Isla Vista foot patrol diversion from jail. As you just heard with restorative justice programs as an example community resource deputies, and mental health co-response teams.

We've also worked to reduce recidivism through improved incarceration with a focus on reentry and rehabilitation. We have expanded the Sheriff's Treatment Program to include life skills training vocational and educational components in addition to its core alcohol and drug treatment messaging In addition to that, we have initiated a medication-assisted treatment program for people who are addicted to drugs or alcohol and utilize our partners at WellPath to add a medical component to this, a treatment component to it as well.

And as you just heard about the collaborative discharging planning that goes on with other county agencies. We've also improved post release supervision of offenders through the establishment and management of two day reporting centers that are resources for parolees who are returning to Santa Barbara County from state prison, through alternatives to custody and our electronic monitoring program.

And in working collaboratively with the probation department. So how has that manifested itself in terms impact on the jail population. I'd like to compare for you the month of July in 2007, 2019 and this year. In July of 2007, the average daily population in the Santa Barbara County Jail was 1,268 inmates. In July of 2019, the average population was 898. And that 898 includes 91 inmates who were retained by the Sheriff's Office as a result of AB 109. In other words, these are state inmates who would have under the previous pre-realignment situation been sent to state prisons. So even with those additional 91 inmates that we didn't have before, we still saw a 29% drop in inmate population And then this month, July of 2020 for the first 15 days at least one through 15 our average daily population is 578.

That includes 72 AB 109 inmates and those inmates still represent a 36% drop from that previous number in 2007. Since COVID-19 struck us, we and the Sheriff's Office have taken some extraordinary steps in alliance with our other criminal justice partners to even limit further the population of the jail. We extended early releases from our jail for sentenced inmates from 21 day early releases to 30 day early releases.

And bear in mind that way the law is structured, there is a 50% good time work time credit that is given to inmates who are in custody. So for example if someone is serving one year gets sentenced to one year in the county jail with their good time work time credit they will only serve six months in the county jail and under this program if they're Qualified for it, they would have only served five months. They'd have been released 30 days earlier than the six months.

We've also increased our ROVAR assessment score. That's the risk of re-offense cut off that we would use to release an inmate from what had previously been a 6 out of 10 and we bumped it up to a 7 out of 10 only for nonviolent inmates. We increased our pre-trial own recognizance releases, doing that in partnership as mentioned with probation and the courts.

And we have adhered to the Justice Council of California's I'm sorry, the Judicial Council of California's emergency rule four which was the $0 bail which provided a bail schedule that for almost all For many felonies and for all misdemeanors essentially required no bail, no dollar bail, a $0 bail for releasees. The result of all of that was that 476 people have been released early or as an alternative release since March the 19th, 476. Of those 476, 55 of them were 12% plus have been re-arrested and rebooked for a total of 75 new offenses.

And let me just walk you through some of the more concerning ones that have come back to us. One person was arrested three times, one was arrested four times, and one was arrested five times as a result of multiple releases primarily attributable to the $0 bail schedule. Two offenders were released on their original arrests for auto theft, and then they were re-arrested for auto theft.

One was arrested for a contempt of court charge and then was re-arrested twice for auto theft. Three were arrested for auto theft and were then re-arrested for auto theft twice more. We've had inmates who, offenders rather, who have been released and had been rearrested for assault with a deadly weapon or battery with serious injury and for domestic violence.

One offender was arrested for brandishing a weapon other than a firearm, was released, and then was subsequently rearrested for brandishing a firearm. One was arrested for being a felon in possession of a firearm and was subsequently rearrested for being a felon in possession of another firearm. One offender was arrested five times for six offenses, and that included two burglaries and an attempted robbery.

And finally one offender was arrested for obstructing or resisting a peace officer and was then re-arrested for kidnapping. So we've had a number of serious offenses that have occurred, and we've had a 12% recidivism rate which doesn't sound very high compared to what we typically think about in terms of recidivism rates. But bear in mind, this has only been after two or three months following the release of whichever offender we're looking at.

We've also been very fortunate that we have not had a particularly high profile re-offense. Thank goodness we've not had anyone murdered but that is not the case for the two counties to our north Monterey and San Luis Obispo. An offender in Monterey was arrested for threatening to blow up an electronics store. That inmate was released by being given credit for 10 days time served.

He then traveled south into San Luis Obispo County and went on a crime spree. During that crime spree, he murdered a homeless man in an execution style. He shot multiple times at a police station And then he shot and severely wounded a deputy sheriff. The next day, he engaged in a lengthy running gun battle with police in a wooded area shooting and wounding another police officer.

He was later fatally wounded in another gun battle but not before another deputy sheriff and another police officer were shot and wounded. With respect to citations We have seen that our citation issuances are actually below last year's levels, and they are well below the five-year average of citations. But they are trending upwards since COVID-19 struck us. And that is something that we expected to see.

We've also increased the use of felony citations. Now these are unusual and rarely issued For example, in 2019 there were only 14 of them issued during the month of March, April and May. I'm sorry, the quarter of March, April and May. So far this year for that same time period we've issued 31 of those felony citations. That's a 121% increase. Now usually these citations are only utilized at the detective level when we have probable cause to arrest someone but there is some mitigating situation or a reason to elect to cite them instead.

That includes a couple of examples, one is we had a fraud suspect who was nine months pregnant and we've also had suspects who have been displaying COVID-19 symptoms and in instead of booking them into the jail for that situation we have elected to issue them a site for felony crime Now we talked about diversion and the diversion to where or diversion to what question that oftentimes is out. I think it's very important for all of you on the board to understand that we are certainly very supportive of diversion. We want to see people diverted from jail if there is an appropriate diversion, that will hold them accountable in another way and will continue to protect public safety And we utilize the diversion options that are available to us in the Sheriff's Office.

These include the Crisis Stabilization Unit, the Credo 47 Center that you heard about before. They include Team Court which is a wonderful program that is an alternative to providing someone with an opportunity to go through a mock court setting And to be judged as it were by a jury of their peer teens and ultimately do some type of community service if they're found guilty, quote unquote.

And then we also participate in restorative justice programs. You heard about the Isla Vista program that has been very successful. And in addition to that, we are about to participate in a new juvenile restorative justice program that's about to be launched by the probation department. And then beginning yesterday, literally on the 15th we have a new post booking pre arraignment mental health and substance abuse diversion program that has come about as a result of a partnership with the district attorney's office with the public defender and with the courts.

And in that program sheriff's deputies will make recommendations for people who have mental health or substance abuse problems that could perhaps be diverted from the traditional criminal justice system into treatment. And if they complete that treatment, then their criminal charge would be dropped. And I can pledge to you that the Sheriff's Office will continue to support additional diversion alternatives to traditional custody if such alternatives are established and available to us And there is more potential for diversion. I think that's a given, but the reality is it will require additional fiscal human and housing resources all of which are currently in short supply.

As far as the recommendations that have been presented to you as a result of today's report, you'll see that the Sheriff's office supports at least in concept all of the recommendations Generally, there are some that need in our estimation to have some additional restrictions. For example the $0 bail schedule now that it has become a local schedule we believe should be modified so that repeat offenders are not automatically released on $0 bail so that we don't have those type of re-offenses that I talked about earlier with you and that those who choose to re-offend In that situation, they should be we believe held with traditional cash bail.

We believe that whatever we do going forward however, we obviously have to as Mr. Malekian said balance our efforts with public safety. That is a paramount consideration and I think a paramount expectation from those that we serve that we will keep them safe. Now, as I close my remarks To you today, I just want to leave you with some caveats. And this is particularly as references the questions about what can we do to keep our jail population at the current low levels that they are at?

I will remind you that up until COVID-19, we also had a very low unemployment rate and on a sound recovery from the Great Recession. And obviously since that time, we have taken a few steps backwards. It is too early to tell if lower jail numbers can or indeed should be sustained post COVID in my opinion. In just three months, we've seen that reoffense rate of 12% plus and that is not a good number Most reoffense rates are measured on three year periods, so we don't know where those rates are going to be. We will continue to track those 476 inmates and determine where they go, but that is not a good initial number.

The numbers that we have in inmates in jail now are artificially low. They're low because arrests are artificially down from where they normally would pre COVID or a post COVID environment. In other words, peace officers from throughout the county have been asked to take all possible alternative measures to arrest due to COVID-19 pandemic and the biggest of those is to cite and release someone rather than physically arrest them and bring them to jail.

Those citations are yet to be acted upon in the most part by the courts as a result of the current court procedures and pandemic procedures. We don't know at this point what the impact is going to be, in other words how many of the offenders who are in that holding pattern with those citations that are waiting to be adjudicated are going to ultimately be sentenced to jail and will have to serve some time in our jail? We just don't know the answer The other thing for you to consider is that crime is at or near 50 year lows right now.

Crime rates rise and they fall, and they usually do so on very long axes. That's what they do. They are tied into a very complex interaction of a variety of factors. Those factors include the quality and the quantity of policing that is being conducted levels of incarceration and types of incarceration, drugs, the availability of guns in a community and demographics. For example, the median age in the United States is now at the highest point in its history. Median age is 36.7 years. And the reality is that younger people younger than that commit the majority of crime and young people now are making up a smaller percentage of society And the last element or component is economics. And those economics are especially driven by poverty levels and by unemployment rates, which as we know, we have seen rise exponentially in the recent past.

And lastly, crime rates are likely to increase. They've been down for a long period of time and the likelihood is that they're going to go up in the future. We've already seen the murder rate dramatically rise in our nation's larger cities this year. And even here in our community, domestic violence and other relationship crimes are on the increase probably due to the lockdown effects of the COVID-19 pandemic.

But I suspect that although we have been fortunate to be able to hold crime levels at a very low level historically, that the likelihood is that they're going to increase in due course Let me close this out just by saying that these are tumultuous and difficult and uncertain times for county government, for our criminal justice system. Especially for the people that we serve and indeed for our entire nation.

And although we have many challenges ahead of us with your support and with the continued trust and support of the people that we serve We are going to get through them. And as we do, the members of your Sheriff's Department will continue to conduct ourselves according to our five core values. Service, integrity, caring, courage and fairness. Thank you for the opportunity to speak today.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:12:06 · ≈ 2:12 PM

Thank You Sheriff Brown appreciate that. Are there questions for the sheriff? Supervisor Hartman

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.851:12:15 · ≈ 2:12 PM

I just wanted to thank Sheriff Brown for the report about community policing in Isla Vista and wonder how that will be made available to the Isla Vista community more broadly. What people haven't fully realized is how much this county has been doing even before the tragic death of George Floyd. And there's much more to do, but I think this is an opportunity for us to To show what foundation we've built and what we have to build on. And I think this report is an important one, at least for Isla Vista community.

And the second thing is, I just think that creative solutions come when people can get out of their box. And I think we have over $11 million in grants that That has been happening even before COVID. And I just really wanna thank our CEO and all the justice partners, because I think we are really turning a corner in terms of how we approach this in a much more holistic, much more integrated way. And that's the only way we can deal with it so I just want to recognize that. It's not easy you have your own mission and And your own budget and you got to have extra time.

It really takes a leader to take down those barriers, to cooperate.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:13:55 · ≈ 2:13 PM

Thank you Supervisor Hartman. Are there other questions of Sheriff Brown?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:14:03 · ≈ 2:14 PM

Supervisor Williams? This is both a question of you and I'm going to make it really awkward of both you and of Barney. It's just sort of how do you feel like there should be any We're going to do a little bit of. Analysis so that we can really ascertain whether there is it real difference in some of the crimes folks in different jurisdictions in the county are bringing to us and how can we get that I know you've talked about this before sheriff Barney I think most of the crimes that we're seeing charged, they sound to me like they belong in jail. But there's some that you kind of wonder about.

Drug charges, camping and storage of personal property, vandalism less than 400 bucks, that sort of stuff. And I don't think that you, because you're only constitute part of the law enforcement agency in the county. There's obviously two big cities and a couple medium and smaller size ones. How can we see if there's a difference on how people are in different agencies or treating the question of whether to cite somebody or put them in jail?

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CommentLorena OrtizProposed · by introduction1:15:53 · ≈ 2:15 PM

Supervisor Williams, I'll take the first crack at that. As you allude to, there are many organizations besides the Sheriff's Office that utilize the county jail inmates into jail. For the most part, people who are booked into jail are not held in jail in a pretrial status for crimes like the ones that you mentioned. For example, misdemeanor that would be with less than $400 value. Under typical situation, that would be a site release offense It might be someone brought to the jail and booked, but they would be released from the jail on that offense on a citation and promise to appear.

With respect to sentenced inmates if a judge sentenced an inmate for vandalism, for example, and gave that person say 30 days in jail or something along that for a minor offense then that's a different story. That's a sentenced inmate and then brought into jail, but I can assure you that there are very few people in either the sentenced or pre-sentenced categories that would fit any of those more minor offenses.

As far as an analysis on what the different jurisdictions are bringing to us, it's like anything else, it could be done. There is certainly the capability of that either through request of information or follow up information from those agencies, or through our new jail management system. We'd be able to come up with a list but it again gets back to the point that I've harped on for some time now is that the resources that we have one of the biggest ones that we don't have in the Sheriff's office that we truly need is a data manager and a data analyst someone who can not only gather all that data, but analyze it and take a look at it. And proactively let us use it to make some either some decisions on our own or some suggestions perhaps for other agencies.

But we have limited capability to gather and analyze data, but as I've mentioned to you before typically it always requires us pulling someone off of some other function that they have within the organization. When it comes time to get back, and I know that we are in very difficult and uncertain financial times right now. But when it comes time, I'm going to again bang that drum that we truly do need a data manager in the sheriff's office. And that would be in addition to a data manager that perhaps could be a manager that consolidates information from all of the other public criminal justice agencies as well.

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CommentCriminal Justice DataProposed1:18:59 · ≈ 2:18 PM

Supervisor Williams to the chair. The only thing I would add to that is that there is a, I think a fairly common misconception that law enforcement is sort of the gatekeeper to the criminal justice system and in reality most Because law enforcement officers are tasked with, usually with dealing with some kind of order maintenance or social order situation. And there aren't, or they don't perceive that there are other options than physical arrest.

And so I think the analysis that you're talking about can be done and probably needs to be done. It was sort of what I was referring to with regards to the citations that have been issued during the pandemic and that are currently in the queue. The question is really, of those sections Were there consequences to the public for the fact that those 1700 people were not physically arrested.

But we're simply cited or taken somewhere, or something. So I would agree that could be done and whether it was done through the Sheriff's Office or done through Criminal Justice Data Committee or some combination thereof. I think that is part of what that recommendation refers to.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:20:34 · ≈ 2:20 PM

I just think that's really important. I mean, you know, I got a list here looks to me like the public defenders defending six cases of shoplifting, four cases of vandalism less than 400 bucks, things like that. Again, I look at these lists and I go okay yeah so that person is convicted Of XYZ on these lists and most of the time I go, yeah that person belongs in jail.

But I think it's a misconception that there is not people either pretrial or post sentencing that are not in jail for minor offenses. There still are some minors out there and I would like to know Where they're originating so that there's some we if we understand that there's some systemic disagreement on our. Handling this between our jurisdictions. Are there

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:21:44 · ≈ 2:21 PM

any questions? I have a

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.831:21:44 · ≈ 2:21 PM

question, Chair. Yes,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:21:46 · ≈ 2:21 PM

Supervisor Lavenino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.831:21:47 · ≈ 2:21 PM

So question on that, so the person might be in this time for what you would consider minor infraction like a shoplifting but I guess on this zero bail thing, Sheriff, when you were mentioning this recidivism. Is there a system by which that's taken into account when somebody comes to the jail? And I don't even understand, I don't know when that's determined. I mean is there a way to look at somebody's history and say okay obviously this person's a problem and needs to spend time in jail?

Or is everybody just carte blanche zero bail on that particular charge?

CommentLorena OrtizProposed · by introduction1:22:38 · ≈ 2:22 PM

Sheriff Brown, did you hear the question? I'm sorry. I muted myself instead of unmuting myself. That's OK. Yeah. The short answer to your question Supervisor Lavagnino is that yes, everybody is treated the same way so there is no taking into account whether or not someone has had a re-offense automatically. Now there is a mechanism to petition the court for a bail enhancement, so in other words if you had a person who was a repeat offender you have the ability to go to a judge and ask for a bail enhancement that may or may not be granted But it's essentially, otherwise it's an automatic.

Everybody is treated the same way and that has been the problem that I have with $0 bail. It's also the problem that I've had frankly with the law changes under Prop 47 with respect to crimes that have been decriminalized from felonies to misdemeanors. And where you have essentially someone who can just repeatedly and And on occasions, there are those who are involved in either serial acts of theft or repeat drug offenses and so forth. And they're not being held accountable as a result of that. And I think that's one of the flaws in the change in the system.

And we couldn't do much about it with the Judicial Councils Emergency Rule 4 But I think we do have the opportunity now to maybe go back and ask the court to reconsider utilizing that bail schedule for people who repeatedly offend.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.831:24:33 · ≈ 2:24 PM

So follow up on that too, so some people don't actually, there's a bunch of instances now where we're citing and releasing. So does your deputy when they're approaching somebody, Their actual, you know if they've been arrested and what they've been arrested for. But does it give a history of this person's been cited 15 times for XYZ? Is that history available to the officer or the deputy?

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CommentLorena OrtizProposed · by introduction1:25:10 · ≈ 2:25 PM

It's not immediately available, Supervisor Lavagnino. It is available if someone, if they were to run a criminal history on that person but typically that's not going to be done in the field. That would typically be done if there was an investigation where you were building a case or looking at someone as a suspect in a crime where you're conducting investigation to run a criminal history. Usually they're not routinely run on people in the field

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.831:25:38 · ≈ 2:25 PM

OK, so because I think I'm in agreement with a lot of this as far as reducing jail sentences and those types of things. But you know there I think with anything a small percentage of people commit a large percentage of the crimes and even if it is something that shoplifting if the person just habitually continually does it with impunity we've got a problem. So thanks

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:26:03 · ≈ 2:26 PM

Mr. Chair

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:26:05 · ≈ 2:26 PM

Yes Supervisor Adam

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:26:08 · ≈ 2:26 PM

Can I just ask a kind of point of order? Can anybody tell me what we're actually jurisdictional over here, because it seems like we're having a hearing that the subject is almost exclusively the province of other elected officials.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:26:34 · ≈ 2:26 PM

Long pause. Looking for something but I don't we're listening to a presentation from elected officials and other department heads about the criminal justice system in regards to racial equity. And we're hearing about the system and the public is learning about how these pieces interconnect, and we have a series of 15 recommendations from our staff to continue to pursue so that's what we're doing here today. Mr. Guzzone

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:27:05 · ≈ 2:27 PM

Chair and Supervisors, in response to Supervisor Adams' question several of the officials that you'll be hearing from today have distinct constitutional and or statutory duties apart from the duties of the Board. The Sheriff for example has the sole and exclusive authority to keep the county jail and the prisoners in it But related to that, separate but very closely related to that.

The Board of Supervisors each year by statute adopts a budget and also has responsibilities to fund the portions of the county jail dealing with food clothing bedding and expenses for keeping prisoners So there are direct contacts there. Likewise, the district attorney has both by constitution and statute prosecutorial discretion that is outside of the board's control but the board does have impact on the district attorney's budget and you appoint the public defender.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:28:01 · ≈ 2:28 PM

Thank you Mr. Guzzelli. In the interest of time management I think we're going to have Limit our questions unless somebody has something absolutely pressing for the Sheriff, Supervisor Harmon.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.851:28:12 · ≈ 2:28 PM

This I think is for Mr. Mielecki and Dr. Mielecki. Quick criminal justice data committee do the cities participate in that?

CommentCriminal Justice DataProposed1:28:24 · ≈ 2:28 PM

The city of Santa Barbara had sent a representative on a couple of occasions, and there were some discussions underway about strengthening that relationship when the COVID pandemic broke out. And I don't know if the committee has even met since COVID started.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:28:42 · ≈ 2:28 PM

Thank you for that. Next in our presentations is District Attorney Joyce Dudley. District Attorney Dudley, thank you for being here digitally

CommentHazel MortensenProposed · by introduction1:29:04 · ≈ 2:29 PM

Good afternoon.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:29:06 · ≈ 2:29 PM

Thank you, welcome.

CommentHazel MortensenProposed · by introduction1:29:08 · ≈ 2:29 PM

Thank you. Chair, members of the board, colleagues and the people of Santa Barbara County I've been tasked with answering two questions so I'll be restricting my comments to those two questions and I'm happy to answer any questions any of you might have. The first question I was asked was one, actions taken by your department during COVID as it relates to reducing the jail population either directly or indirectly. And two, what do you believe could be done or should be done going forward?

So as to question one, as to the actions taken by your district attorney's department during COVID as it relates to reducing the jail population either directly or indirectly. We at the DA's office are taking a multi-pronged approach to reducing the jail population. We already have multiple diversion programs in existence, including a general misdemeanor diversion program, drug, alcohol, mental health veterans and homeless court which is called restorative court.

Recently we have and we will continue to increase those offered diversion programs. In addition, we will reduce cases filed and reduce the amount of time people will be placed on probation. As to what your district attorney's office believes should be done going forward, since we already have the Misdemeanor Diversion Program in place which we intend to increase those programs are designed for low level offenders and comparatively less serious crimes Now we're hoping, along with our guidance that the probation department or a non-profit organization can create and fund a felony diversion program for us to offer defendants in lieu of jail for some felonies.

As of now, we have a very active pre-filing misdemeanor diversion program Along with the public defender, Bewell and the Sheriff's Office we are presently engaged in Credo 47. A grant funded program offering felony diversion where applicable but that program is presently available to only those suffering from mental illness and drug dependency. We look forward to beginning our restorative justice program in Goleta as of now that is restricted to misdemeanor crimes but once a more rigorous felony diversion program is created We look forward to diverting felons as well.

Additionally, your district attorney's office believes going forward we must dedicate county resources to mine criminal justice data, analyze that data and measure the outcomes of criminal justice reform programs. A data analyst in the district attorney's office would allow us to mine the data to see what works and what doesn't. Your district attorney's office is open to and excited about change, but not for change sake. And not doing so puts our community safety and justice for all at risk.

That is why the addition of the data collection person that expert would be so critical to us making reasonable criminal justice reform. And that is the end of my formal comments.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:32:22 · ≈ 2:32 PM

Thank you District Attorney Dudley. Are there any questions? Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:32:28 · ≈ 2:32 PM

Williams Well, I just want to thank you and the sheriff for being with us today. I've kind of likened it before with you to it. I know it's kind of like asking a quarterback, should we really play football? Usually the answer is going to be no but you have such judgment. I mean the answer is always going to be yes but you have such judgment. I trust you to sometimes say no maybe we shouldn't play the game today.

And because of that, I just want to ask you kind of how many people are we diverting currently if you have last year's numbers? And what can we strive for and maybe expect this year. And you mentioned the recommendation that if we want to divert more, You know, what help do you... What do we need to do to do that? And what kind of factors would you be thinking about in determining who to divert and who not to?

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CommentHazel MortensenProposed · by introduction1:33:53 · ≈ 2:33 PM

Okay. I'll take it in reverse. Your last question... Well just so I can keep track of your four questions. So your last question is what are the factors I take into consideration when we look at a case We look at first of all, the crime that was alleged to have been committed. Then we look at the rap sheet of the person who is alleged to have committed the crime and then if there's a victim under Marcy's law consider the victim input and then we make a decision should this case be filed or not filed? Or should we send it back to the agency for further investigation?

If a case is going to be filed, it has to rise to the level of being able to be proved beyond reasonable doubt with admissible evidence. Sometimes we have that but we still don't file the case because there are very good reasons in justice. So I think there's a misconception whenever the district attorney's office or whenever a district attorney's office It's just not true. We always balance wisdom and justice and ramifications of our decisions.

So what are the kinds of things that we've been looking at in a case where considering diversion, the first question would be asking is how serious was the crime? And what was I'm going to talk a little bit about what we're doing with the new jail system's input. When we can, we want to divert people away from county jail. Right now, we don't have programs in county jail that really help beyond the minimum programs that they have the resources to afford. I'm hoping when the new jail is up, we'll have more programs. But in general, we think it's better to divert in the community because in the community someone can continue And hopefully that can reduce the recidivism rate. Some cases, even very violent felonies we would take a look at that to see if that would be that kind of case.

That would be the exception in general. We're going to look at lower level crimes for diversion and keep in mind, we don't have that felony diversion program, but I do have the statistics for 2019. In 2019, we referred 760 cases to collaborative courts and 1,237 cases to our Misdemeanor Diversion Court for a total of 1,997 referred for diversion. This represents 11% of total cases presented to our office and 14% of misdemeanor cases presented. Now in addition to that, remember I told you sometimes we just don't file the case at all? In addition, we rejected 23% of overall cases presented in 2019 So those are the statistics for 2019. And I know you asked three questions, and I answered two. Do you recall the third?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:37:00 · ≈ 2:37 PM

Well, what could we strive for in the future? I mean especially we may have both a challenge and an opportunity here. You have 1,700 cases on your plate right now that we now have some data on how much of a problem those offenders are because only a limited number of them have re-offended in the last few months meaning They got a slap on the wrist, they got a citation. Most of us don't view that as being a high level of accountability and yet they haven't re-offended at least 90% of them haven't so how do we handle those cases? And do we have an opportunity here to divert more because some of those people say the people who offended in March have kind of shown us that They are going to immediately re-offend even without the accountability.

CommentHazel MortensenProposed · by introduction1:38:05 · ≈ 2:38 PM

Okay, so I think you asked me two questions just now. One is what about those 1,700 cases? And I'll get to that in a minute and the second was what can what can I aspire for in 2020? Yeah and

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:38:19 · ≈ 2:38 PM

I didn't mean it they are linked you know is sort of my point. Sure

CommentHazel MortensenProposed · by introduction1:38:23 · ≈ 2:38 PM

but I can ask them separately You know, if we can get a felony diversion program going then my number will be more. Knowing the situation we're in and the paralysis we're experiencing, the lack of resources we're experiencing I'm not optimistic but I'm hopeful that something like that can occur With that in mind, I can tell you that we're not just approaching it from the perspective of here's a case in front of us. Can we divert it? We're approaching from three different perspectives as I made my opening comments. We are restricting, we're bringing in, we'r taking a better closer look at our filing decisions and considering The situation that we're in now with criminal justice reform, we want to make sure that we're filing the right charges for the right cases.

We've always aspired to do that but now I guess in our discussions with executive staff and attorneys, I'm asking people to take even a closer look than they've ever done before so hopefully we'll reduce our filings as a result of this. We will increase diversions. So with the credo program, which is a very exciting program that's really just restricted in terms of families to mental health and addicts. So we have a whole plethora of cases low level felonies or medium level or even high level families where there is no program to send them into but we will push for the misdemeanor diversions so maybe they'll take up a couple of points will push to tighten our filing And we'll hope for a felony diversion program.

As to the 1700 cases, unfortunately if I did this just based on history, I would tell you that approximately 40% of those folks who are given citations will not show up in court. Shocking and devastating. What does that mean? It means a warrant's going to be released and then eventually they're gonna show up in court So when they come to court, and I'm definitely encouraging everybody to come to court because when you come to court we can deal with it. Some of these cases could be diverted. Maybe you'll have information that will make us dismiss the case out of hand but we need you to come to court in order to be just.

Those that do come to court were going to consider the same things I've just decided now with a more restricted filing with more opportunity for diversion how do we deal with this case now? What I can't do is give you exactly what we will do on each case, because each case is different.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:41:05 · ≈ 2:41 PM

Are there any other questions from Santa Maria for District Attorney Dudley?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:41:09 · ≈ 2:41 PM

Well, I just have one more which is that the at which is what do we need to do or is it in your hands? What do we need to do to help start a felony diversion program?

CommentHazel MortensenProposed · by introduction1:41:19 · ≈ 2:41 PM

Well, you're going to hate this answer. Supervisor Williams, but it's money. It really is money, it's resources. I have tremendous confidence in our probation department. I think if our probation department received the funding that it needs to start felony diversion program, it would be an excellent program. I think we have some fantastic nonprofits in this community. Again, any one of them could set up a diversion program that I think we could work hand-in-hand with them and get structured correctly, but they're gonna require resources as well So I think that's resources well spent.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:41:59 · ≈ 2:41 PM

Are there any questions from Santa Maria?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:42:05 · ≈ 2:42 PM

No, thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:42:07 · ≈ 2:42 PM

I just want to add my appreciation to District Attorney Dudley to be open and enthusiastic about the idea of expanding into a felony diversion program. That would be really significant progress, and appreciate your commitment to pushing the misdemeanor diversion program more aggressively too. All these pieces of the puzzle in addition to things that are underway and ongoing are important piece of the puzzle so thank you very much for that.

CommentHazel MortensenProposed · by introduction1:42:37 · ≈ 2:42 PM

Thank you, Chair Hart.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:42:38 · ≈ 2:42 PM

Thank you. And that's probably a perfect segue to our Probation Chief Tanya Heitman who is next in the presentation schedule.

CommentTanya HeitmanProposedself-stated1:42:49 · ≈ 2:42 PM

Chair Hart and Supervisors I'm Tanya Heitman your chief probation officer and I want to thank you for providing an opportunity to continue this important dialogue. The last 10 years have brought substantial changes to the criminal justice system yet as you can tell from the discussion today There are still many opportunities for continued improvements. The probation department has been an active partner and played a key role in many of the latest reforms, most notably Senate Bill 678 public safety realignment propositions 47 and 57 at times we've been left reeling from so many changes.

However, we understand that we must continue to seize each opportunity to learn more and serve our clients and the community better. The probation department is not simply looking for a new approach or another program to implement, we know we must look internally at our processes, methods, training, and policy to ensure our infrastructure aligns with best practices to support any needed enhancements.

To this end earlier this year, we contracted with the University of Cincinnati Corrections Institute whose mission is to research Develop, disseminate and implement evidence-based practices and corrections. Their comprehensive evaluation of the adult division will include the extent to which our correctional programs adhere to the principles for effective interventions and examining our department's capacity for staff development as it pertains to evidence based principles, quality assurance assessment of client characteristics and treatment practices While we've seen some improvements to the system as our ability to provide treatment, quality re-entry and supports have increased. We know to expand our impact and keep pace with systemic changes, we must look within our organization and determine where additional improvements need to occur.

We've heard a lot today about the reduction in jail population as a result of COVID-19. Although not specifically mentioned Probation departments recalibration, probation violations or what we refer to as revocations began early last fiscal year. This has also been a factor in reducing the jail population. Fortunately prior to the pandemic, we began working with Beta Gov an independent research group to explore our revocation practices and determine how those efforts could be more effective and ensure we're using revocation As judiciously and appropriately to achieve reductions in recidivism while maintaining public safety.

We now realize this work and potential changes to our local revocation practices will be even more critical. I know some of the decisions that we will make will not be popular with all our stakeholders, but we're committed to allowing the data and research to guide us while remaining open to any course correction that may be warranted. Our pre-trial effort has also been mentioned several times.

I'm pleased that we were well positioned to enhance and expand our efforts, to assess and supervise more individuals in the community just in time to be able to assist in reducing the jail population while ensuring public safety. Although it is difficult to measure outcomes so early in the process what we can tell you is our average supervised pretrial population is 135% higher from March through June this year than the same three months last year.

Additionally, we also know that on average less than 1% of individuals on pretrial release supervision have been terminated due to a new criminal arrest. There will be many people analyzing the numbers and reviewing recidivism outcomes from different angles and perspectives over the coming months But I'm confident that we did the right thing at the right time for our community.

I'm proud of the work, of the many probation staff that have performed tirelessly to ensure both public health and public safety were taken into consideration. We will continue to collaborate with the other justice partners and the courts to ensure that our pretrial program is as successful as possible. We will also incorporate many of the lessons learned into our long-term assessment and supervision strategies and await the November election to see if SB10, the bail reform initiative ultimately eliminates bail in California altogether or not.

If this work continues at the current level we will require additional resources to ensure continued success. Additionally, we're striving to ensure state prison sentences are reserved for the most violent and serious offenders. We recognize that although sometimes entirely necessary Incarceration in a state facility does not result in a stronger community, but instead often results more broken and damaged families.

However, reductions in incarceration via jail or prison mean that we must invest more and not less into prevention intervention alternative sentencing strategies as well as evidence-based treatment services for the justice involved individuals in our community Similarly, we continue to explore opportunities to reduce the length of time individuals are on probation.

Recognizing that a person's success is not determined by the length of probation but rather the level of engagement and the quality of services and supervision they're provided. However as proposed pending assembly bill 1950 may preempt our local efforts as it's been identified as a statewide initiative that seeks to avoid local sentencing practices that create unintended inequities and sentencing across counties.

It seeks to limit most misdemeanor probation terms to one year, and felonies to two years. The criminal justice partners come to you with very distinct and divergent views on many aspects of the system as we should. This diversity of perspective provides balance to our local justice system. We are united though in believing that this is important work for our community, which requires continued investment and focus.

I know we've had some very productive discussions in the last several weeks and I look forward to working with each of the partner agencies and the community to get this right. Thank you Chair Hart and supervisors for recognizing the importance of this effort and the many lives that will be impacted by the decisions that we make. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:49:47 · ≈ 2:49 PM

Are there questions for Chief Heitman? Supervisor Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.851:49:53 · ≈ 2:49 PM

Yes, Dr. Melekian suggested that you might have the answer to Chief Heitman to how we strengthen the capacity of the Data Committee for Criminal Justice without additional resources.

CommentTanya HeitmanProposedself-stated1:50:07 · ≈ 2:50 PM

So Supervisor Hartman through the Chair thank you for that question and for highlighting the work of the Criminal Justice Data Committee The reason that Dr. Malekian indicates that is because through the Community Corrections Partnership and through the action of your board, AB 109 funds were dedicated to staff the Criminal Justice Data Committee efforts. Unfortunately we have not been successful thus far in hiring an appropriate staff for that committee I am pleased to tell you however, that in working with our County Human Resources Department just yesterday. I believe it was a new recruitment for that data committee staff has been released and we're eager to get it pushed out to as many applicants as possible in hopes to hire a specialist that can work with all the criminal justice partners on this project.

There is already an agreement amongst the criminal justice partners and the architecture to bring the systems together is already in place for the probation department, the sheriff's department, and the court. And the probation IT staff, the public defender IT staff, and a consultant that we've hired are currently working to bring the public defender system on as the next partner agency.

Once they finish the work at the Public Defender's Office, we'll move on to the District Attorney's Office. So it is an active project. It's not progressing quite as quickly as we would like it to because of the dedicated staffing but we're very optimistic that this new recruitment will yield better results.

CommentAthena TanProposed1:52:05 · ≈ 2:52 PM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:52:07 · ≈ 2:52 PM

Thank you Chief Hyman. Are there any questions from Santa Maria? Could you restate the 1% that you referred to? I think you were talking about pre-trial supervision.

CommentTanya HeitmanProposedself-stated1:52:22 · ≈ 2:52 PM

Sure, Chair Hart. Our pre-trial supervision numbers have gone up 135% from the same quarter of last year 2019 and we are tracking that as you know, we have a grant from the Judicial Council That complements the county funds that are contributing towards our pre-trial effort. And as part of that effort, we are collecting data on all individuals going onto pretrial release and are monitoring them to determine whether they're successful in their time on pretrial as well as if they do exit the program prematurely what those circumstances behind that were. And when you look at those that exit unsuccessfully because of a new prime arrest, we are trending at less than 1% of them are getting closed out that way. So very good rates in terms of new criminal arrests.

They're very minimal.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:53:26 · ≈ 2:53 PM

Thank you for refreshing that. That's an important Data point in this conversation and something we should really focus on so that is obvious evidence of success in that space. So thank you

CommentTanya HeitmanProposedself-stated1:53:40 · ≈ 2:53 PM

Chair Hart if I could just add by way of clarification, I know that the sheriff's office is tracking data regarding those that were released early or some other release through the zero bail process And are looking at the rearrest of those. It is distinctly different in that many of those individuals that they're tracking were not subject to any supervision for one reason or another.

So it's not a apples-to-apples kind of group that we're looking at, he's looking at those many who were straight released and I'm looking at the ones that are being supervised through pretrial. I would also note that because we recognize that the pretrial provides extra supports to individuals coming out of jail, as well as some extra accountability while they're going through the court process. We are very much interested in ensuring that those that need it get placed on pretrial supervision rather than straight released under zero bail. And we do encourage that the bail enhancement process that the sheriff mentioned be utilized So that those that are re-offending are not re-released on zero bail, but can be held accountable, held in custody or at least on pretrial supervision rather than creating a revolving door effect.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:55:06 · ≈ 2:55 PM

Thank you for that connection of how those pieces of the puzzle fit together and it underscores the importance of the services and the supervision that comes from the probation department as part of this process to to help people to success and get out of the criminal justice system. Thank you, Chief Heitman. Are there other questions at all for Chief Heitman? Okay.

Thank you again. The next presenter is our public defender Tracy Makuga.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:55:38 · ≈ 2:55 PM

Good afternoon Chairman Hart, members of the board, Madam CEO. First I'd like to thank Assistant CEO Barney Malekian for his presentation today. As I have commented in private conversations with our group, he's been given the job of herding cats and he has done a very good job of getting all of the justice partners together. Excuse me. In very extraordinary times.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:56:04 · ≈ 2:56 PM

Ms. Makuga could you lean into the microphone a little bit or can we at our end turn up the volume? It'd be helpful to get a little more volume. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:56:15 · ≈ 2:56 PM

Can you hear me better now?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:56:17 · ≈ 2:56 PM

Yeah thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:56:19 · ≈ 2:56 PM

Thank you. I always like to open with a quote when I'm talking about an issue that is very important and one of my favorite quotes is from Nelson Mandela, when he was reflecting on the years of his struggle including lengthy incarceration fighting apartheid years later when it was reflecting on the success. He said it is always impossible until it's done And that's how this moment feels for me, and I believe for the justice partners.

Many of the things that we've discussed and debated about the criminal justice system that seemed impossible a few short years ago like safely reducing the jail population is really now becoming a reality. Unfortunately it did take a pandemic of historic proportions that not only led to swift legislative and judicial action but also accelerated unprecedented levels of collaboration and decision making.

These actions were a response to the grave threat COVID-19 poses to individuals that are incarcerated. What is happening in our prisons and jails, and other congregate settings is a public health tragedy that continues to play out throughout our country. And I'm very proud of what we have done as public safety members and as a community. The risk to an incarcerated person getting infected with COVID-19 brings new meaning to justice delayed, justice denied, and the already devastating impact of mass incarceration.

For many people in prison and jail, incarceration will end with the death sentence. Zero bail which has been discussed greatly today Zero bail implemented by the Judicial Council led to the release of individuals charged with low-level offenses and significantly decreased our jail population. The decrease in the jail population has proven what champions of reform have been saying for years, money bail is an economic issue not a public safety issue.

Money bail unfairly and unjustly incarcerates the poor and disadvantaged many of whom are people of color The mounting bail system in effect creates a two-tiered system of justice, one for the wealthy and one for everybody else. This is fundamentally unjust. Not only does it tie due process and freedom to financial ability creating sort of a coercive lever that can force poor people to forfeit their right to trial and often pleading for death at daylight but it perpetuates structural racism in the criminal legal system.

The argument I've heard today is that it's far too soon to know the impact of zero bail. Instead, we should focus on and be scared by the small percentage of individuals who have re-offended and ignore the evidence of success. By the Sheriff's own statistics, 88% of the individuals released on zero bail have not re-offended. 88% those released on zero bail have not re-offended.

The only reason those individuals, that 88%, were in jail all pretrial, presumed innocent, charged with low-level offenses and awaiting their day in court separated from their families, isolated from their community and support network, and their jobs was because they were too poor to post bail. As Chief Heitman pointed out, the November ballot will ultimately decide the fate of money bail But in the meantime, I want to applaud the courage of our presiding judge to keep zero bail in effect. Saving lives and protecting our community and all the efforts that Chief Heitman and her incredible team have done executing on the pretrial supervision program.

I would also like to encourage each of you as our county leaders to show support for this ballot measure. Zero bail or the end-of-money bail system is one piece of the puzzle in order to maintain a record low jail population I would suggest to you that we still have room for improvement and can continue to lower our current jail population permanently without harming public safety.

For that to happen, we need to turn to the most powerful person in this room and in the criminal justice system, our prosecutor. She more than anyone can affect the most meaningful change and lead our efforts for meaningful criminal justice reform. Simply put, Assistant CEO Barney Volekian made this point. Police make arrests, public defenders defend. Juries decide guilt and judges hand down sentences. However the prosecutor alone with a stroke of a pen decides who gets charged with a crime what crime they're charged with and what punishment to seek. And very importantly whether our community members can be afforded diversion.

No other person in the criminal justice system holds as much power such a small tool Our prosecutor should seek to put her pen down and provide diversion on more cases. Our DA has the power right now, not tomorrow, not next month, not next year, right now. Punishment in incarceration should not be the only tool in our toolbox. The Neighborhood Court is an innovative diversion program launched by the District Attorney's Office. It's a great example of her power to affect change.

Neighborhood Court is up We've got a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work ahead of us and running in Galena and Isla Vista why not expand it right now the entire County, especially in our communities in Santa Maria local which are disproportionately impacted and our community of color impacted by not having the opportunities great version. Existing Every individual who has benefited from zero bail and is awaiting their day in court should be reviewed for diversion rather than prosecution. And that should happen now, not later.

I would also argue that the list of eligible offenses should be expanded which is entirely a decision only our prosecutor can make. A good example of which is vehicle code violations such as driving on a suspended license. Instead of creating more financial hardship on the community member who had their license suspended by asking them to pay hefty fines and suffering a misdemeanor conviction. Why not simply divert these people?

Each year, these types of cases unnecessarily flood our courtrooms causing strain on an already strained system. All diversion opportunities do not have to be program driven. I know we do need to talk about money. And I know we do need to fund more things But not all diversion needs to be program driven. You can allow someone to do volunteer work at a church or their local animal shelter.

You could do restorative, such as an apology letter to a victim of a property crime and have them pay back restitution. You can ask people to get enrolled in school or complete their GED. There are meaningful ways to divert individuals from low-level offenses away from the system without additional costs. Long before the pandemic, we needed to start reimagining public safety and now because of the pandemic there is even a greater urgency.

The pandemic exposed our strengths many of which you saw here today our weaknesses and most importantly tremendous opportunity to affect meaningful change which has far too long eluded us We need to reimagine public safety and embrace a holistic community-based approach to continue to reduce mass incarceration and recidivism, and to address racial injustice.

Zero bail, maternalistic incarceration, diversion, and community based programs and investments in our community are all critical pieces to achieve these goals. But just like mass incarceration The pandemic has disproportionately impacted the poor and disadvantaged, many of whom are people of color. We need to look to our northern region and see the infection rate or peek into our criminal courts and see that justice is harsher and less forgiving.

For example, why are probation terms longer in the north versus the south? Five years versus three years in many, many cases. We need to continue to ask these questions, demand transparency, data justification and change. We have made great strides but there is much much more to do that we need to do. Thank you for your time.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:05:43 · ≈ 3:05 PM

Thank You Public Defender Makuga. Are there questions for Ms. Makuga? Supervisor Williams.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:05:53 · ≈ 3:05 PM

I just thought because of Ms. McCougar's presentation of a question that I should have asked Chief Heitman, is she still on the line? Chief Heitman, Ms. McCougar just mentioned the length of term for probation. And I know you and your department are numbers folks, so if you don't have this right on the tip of your mind, I understand. But is there a difference in results between three- and five-year probation terms? Meaning are people who are on probation for five years a lot more likely to not reoffend or is there a difference?

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CommentTanya HeitmanProposedself-stated2:06:51 · ≈ 3:06 PM

Supervisor through the chair, I would have to say that no, the length of time on probation is not an indicator that someone's more likely to be successful. In fact those that are going to fail on probation generally fail quickly during that very first year of their probationary period. Oftentimes what ends up happening is if you have somebody that was given a five year term of probation, they complete their requirements and then they stabilize enough that we can move them to a lower level of supervision. And we place them on what's called an administrative or a bank caseload where they receive very little supervision for the last couple years of their probation term.

So while it doesn't necessarily take a lot of resources on the probation's part, it still is a stigma for that individual to have to continue to indicate that they're on probation to a potential employer. To have it addressed on a housing application or some other issue with their family and would affect them out in the community if they are coming into contact with law enforcement So it does have some long-term ramifications on them, and we don't have any evidence that those longer periods of probation generally serve them well over time. And that's one of the reasons that there's this new assembly bill that is recommending that California go to much shorter lengths of probation. And I would add that, you know, there are some exceptions Types of crime, circumstances that might warrant somebody to be on probation longer.

An example of that would be somebody that has an extremely large restitution amount where they actually have the ability to pay it off within that five-year period and might not be able to do it in a shorter length of probation or perhaps somebody that is a sex offender and would require more strenuous monitoring to make sure that they don't endanger anybody in the community or that they abide by their registration requirements.

But generally speaking, those are the exceptions to the rule and we don't believe that those longer terms serve people well over time. I believe DA Dudley mentioned that she is working with my office and we're looking at ways that we can come to a method Or most terms of probation to be shorter than what they are now.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:09:45 · ≈ 3:09 PM

And so because the sound was not great there, I'm just going to make sure I got that right chief that except in some limited cases like ones where the restitution needs to be stretched over five years that a 5 year term of probation doesn't have any Better results from the criminal justice perspective. It holds the person who's hopefully not going to re-offend back economically and continues costs, unnecessary costs in your mind for us and the taxpayer?

CommentTanya HeitmanProposedself-stated2:10:34 · ≈ 3:10 PM

That's correct Supervisor.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:10:40 · ≈ 3:10 PM

Any other questions for Ms. McCougar? Any questions to Santa Maria? Okay, next we have the Director of the Department of Behavioral Wellness Dr. Gleghorn.

CommentHazel MortensenProposed · by introduction2:10:59 · ≈ 3:10 PM

Good afternoon Chair Hart can you hear me?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:11:02 · ≈ 3:11 PM

Yes thank you.

CommentHazel MortensenProposed · by introduction2:11:04 · ≈ 3:11 PM

Great okay good afternoon Chair Hart members of the board CEO Mia Sato We were asked here today as criminal justice partners to talk about the intersection of our work with COVID and also make some comments on racial equity. So I do want to cover both of those areas, but I'll start with some information about how COVID has impacted the Department of Behavioral Wellness in the area of our clients involved with the criminal justice system.

Assistant CEO Melekian briefed you earlier on the Stepping Up Initiative. And as a reminder to the board and to the public, the Stepping Up Initiative is really a national and statewide commitment of criminal justice partners including behavioral health entities to reduce the number of mentally ill inmates period. That's it, reduce the number of people with mental illness who are incarcerated. That is the primary goal of the Stepping Up initiative. A lot of planning discussions and partnerships have gone into the efforts for Stepping Up to try and move that needle and get people out of jail who have mental illness.

But the one thing that actually produced the significant results in California and in our county specifically is the event of COVID. Where many things changed so that many different people could move from a cell to another bed in the community. How do we know this in our community is, we worked in partnership with the Sheriff's Office beginning back in 2007 to do a single day census, a snapshot if you will of everyone who was in jail on that day And then we took that data provided to us by the Sheriff's Office and matched it using the exact name and the birth date, to people who had ever been in any kind of service with mental health or substance abuse providers in Santa Barbara County.

So we did that three years in a row for the date of October 20th, 2017, 2018, 2019. And as Assistant CEO Melekian mentioned Prior to 2019, the jail census was 1,000 plus. With these two single day counts it was just above a thousand and in 2019 we had moved the numbers down a bit and the census was about 800. In matching the jail census with our data which as other people have pointed out, we can look at their data but they can't look at our data because we're a health entity and our information is protected under state and federal law.

We were able to match these people and found that a remarkably stable proportion of the people in jail on a single day are Having previous histories of mental health or substance abuse treatment services. Every single time this was done, the proportion was 58% of the total jail census on that day. And that's likely an underestimate because we only had two criteria available to match, the exact name and the birth date. So if the name given to us was Joe instead of Joseph it might not have been matched So it's likely an underestimate. So more than half of the people in jail in any given day are people who have histories with mental health and substance abuse treatment in the county. The fourth time we did was post COVID, and that date was June 1st.

Again, the proportion was 57.7% of prior histories with behavioral health. I look at a lot of data and that's just a remarkable, stable estimate across those time periods. Which says even though we've been successful in reducing the total number of people in jail, we still have a large number of people with those needs still locked up. About 1 3rd of them prior to COVID were substance abuse only histories with our department Post COVID, we actually were successful in getting a number of people screened for substance abuse treatment and diverted out of the jail into substance abuse programs. So on June 1st that proportion was 21%. Mental health only, that proportion has remained stable at about a fifth of the population across all of those time periods.

When you look at folks who have both mental illness and substance abuse disorders, it does look like the proportion has gone up a bit. At this point we have about 57% of the people who have histories with us being both mental health and substance abuse treatment histories with the department. Another metric that you've heard across the years in terms of estimating who in jail has mental illness is what proportion are receiving psychotropic medicines, medicines to treat a mental illness condition.

And we also are able to look at those who have in our system ever had medications and the percentage prior to COVID was around 20%. Percentage now is about 27.5%. So we really do have folks who have long-term histories of mental health treatment And substance abuse treatment still in jail at this point in time. The other thing we were able to look at were a lot of demographics that I won't go into it at this point, but we were also able to say that of those people who have histories with us 51% of them had an admission to our system before the age of 18.

We can break those down further, but that's as far as we've gotten in terms of what was that admission for a substance abuse problem? Was that admission for mental health? But over half of them, 51%, had been part of our system before they turned 18. Now, we all know that many childhood factors can contribute to people having long-term mental health or substance abuse problems And key among those is a history of traumatic events. And we've all heard in recent years about the impact of these adverse childhood experiences in impacting mental health. We also know that intergenerational trauma, intergenerational substance abuse histories in the child welfare system and also criminalization of youth for minor crimes can also produce this kind So we do need to look at factors that influence why so many of these individuals with mental illness and substance abuse histories are still in jail after all these jail reductions.

Particularly because we know jail is not a therapeutic environment, it is not a place for people with mental illness to get well. We talked and were working collaboratively with the Sheriff's Office about enhancing the jail environment so that a better level A therapeutic interventions can occur in the jail. But we all need to acknowledge that treatment in jail and the jail environment is not as good as a treatment experience outside the jail.

And we have worked with a number of our partners in trying to have other options for diversion, and in locked environments, in housing, and in other treatment programs. So what do we do about this? Several of my colleagues have said, OK, diversion to what? Diversion to what? Well, as Assistant CEO Malerkian has said, we've been very successful in the last couple of years in obtaining grants to divert both felons and misdemeanors from the criminal justice system to provide a better environment for them to be cared for.

I want to remind the board And the CEO that these are grants, they're time limited. They're supporting really good work and they're giving us lots of data to show that this is good work and not just a good hunch of something we should do but this is not permanent funding. And so we need to be looking to the future. We're about a year into each of these grants three-year cycles. We need to be looking forward to the future of how do we permanently fund these programs If their demonstrated success that we're seeing now continues through that three-year period, which pieces of them are most effective and what's going to be most important that we sustain through funding available? What funding is available? General funds. That might be difficult.

Cannabis funds seem to still have a lot of possibilities. And there's also the Community Corrections Partnership Funds that could potentially go to ongoing services. So we need to permanently look at permanent funding for our co-response teams between the Sheriff's Office, other law enforcement entities and mental health. We need to look at diversion programs which are including things like the Credo 47 Stabilization Center which can provide not only sobering services but also assessment services and linkage to mental health and substance abuse treatment We also have medication-assisted treatment. We also have the whole array of behavioral health treatment programs, including crisis services and substance abuse treatment programs.

These grants are also funding extended case management specifically for people who are in jail and coming out of jail and specialized supportive housing, including crisis residential and step down housing for both misdemeanors and felonies. DA Dudley said we don't have any felony diversion programs, we actually do but it's so very small it's going to serve about six people per year that it's not generally recognized as a robust felony diversion program but it is targeting those who are in jail who have been declared incompetent to stand trial And who are waiting for those rare beds to come available at the Department of State hospitals. So we do have a number of things that were able to do now and over the next two and a half years, that we won't be able to do once those grants go away.

Diversion to what? Again, we need to look at other environments outside of jail to provide therapeutic services. We are in the midst of developing a forensic mental health rehab center That will be available in South County. It's planned for 16 beds and we've recently been working on how to leverage the funding that is allocated through the CCP for services, to be able to serve all 16 clients in that facility.

We need to have full support in order to build the best environment possible for that facility and we will be moving forward with that. Before that opens, we will be opening a regular not forensic focused mental health rehab center in Lompoc at the Champions facility. That's going to have 80 beds total. We have funding currently to put clients in 34 of those beds. The rest of the beds if we don't buy them with this county will be sold to other counties in order to sustain the services out there.

Other funds could be We have a number of beds available in this county. The department does not have any more beds but again that might be something that we should be seriously considering for ongoing support. Our diversion programs also have stepped down housing. You as a board gave the 12 beds, two houses with six beds each. And one of those beds specifically targeted misdemeanor incompetent to stand trial individuals and it's been very successful in helping serve people outside of the jail, get them discharged to community environments and reintegrated into the community. That's been a very successful program that this board funded And we could be doing more of that. The department has a solid history of being able to provide good services, partnering with community agencies to help people step down and not commit more crimes because as you've heard many of the crimes that are being committed are in at least some measure related to being homeless at the time.

We also support keeping the zero bail in place We worked very closely with the jail and with our community providers to screen a number of people when the zero bail went into effect. And we were able to get them into a variety of substance abuse treatment programs, including residential treatment, medication assisted treatment and supportive mental health programs as well.

I wanna note that many of the people that were screened for treatment during this zero bail discharge period, went home. Many of them are not homeless and they do have places to go and people who love them and who want them to be with them and to take care of them so not all these programs need to be providing housing but they do need to ensure that linkage to ongoing care The Department of Behavioral Wellness is very committed to working closely with the jail and with the jail health provider, to ensure that better services are provided to those folks who are still in jail.

And we're also committed to meaningful monitoring of the health services provided in jail. Currently, the contract for the health services and the mental health services in the jail is with the sheriff so we do not do extensive monitoring of those contracts But we have committed to work very closely with the jail as they move towards providing jail-based competency treatment restoration, again in partnership with the Department of State Hospitals.

But we will be working very closely and I just want to reiterate that it's important that health services be closely supervised and monitored by health providers because you really need to ensure that the people monitoring the program understand what's involved in the care. I want to focus for a second on data efforts. I gave you some data earlier from a simple matching between the daily jail count and our database, we're able to look at a lot of different factors when we are given access to that information. So when you ask the question of what kind of data analysis and support and improvements can happen with no additional resources If we have greater access and partnership with our criminal justice partners to their data, we are actually able to provide a lot of information particularly for those folks who are most at risk which are those that are involved with our system.

Many of the grants that we have also have data collection and reporting required and that information should be readily available to share with the board into the community We also think we need to be really centralizing our tracking of individuals who are incompetent to stand trial, whether their crime is a felony or a misdemeanor because they have such a special status within the system and produce such long-term impacts on all of our systems when they are part of that IST process.

When we open our new jail, we will have specialized beds And the capacity could go back to two jails with tons of beds and an elevated census again. We think that's the wrong way to go. We think that when the new jail opens, there are parts of the old jail that should simply be torn down, and there should be parts that get rehabbed so that they could be a more therapeutic environment Particularly for those who have been unable to be discharged, who still have serious mental illness and substance abuse concerns.

I want to talk for just a second about our commitment to cultural competency and diversity. Many people don't know that the Mental Health Services Act that passed in 2004 by a voter initiative required all counties to designate an ethnic services manager And it required all behavioral health services to be provided with attention to the linguistic preference of individuals and the cultural needs of the population.

Culture is not just race and ethnicity, it includes a lot of life experiences and other areas of existence that can impact positively negatively on mental health But we participate actively in this across the state. And it's been an important core value for our department and all departments of behavioral health. We commit a lot of resources to ensuring that all of our staff, and all of the staff employed by our community-based organizations are well trained in cultural humility, and act with sensitivity to honor diverse racial I can return to the board at some point and give a full report on all of the things that we do to ensure We have a diverse workforce that we hire for a number of different languages. We have ideas on how we can improve our bilingual pay and our bilingual services, and we also have made efforts to include utilization of peer workforce so that we can broaden our cultural representation across I want to say that it is a point of pride to us that we are so deeply invested in providing culturally competent services.

And, we do want to partner with other departments in the county and with the board and CEO's office to improve the way race and social equity issues are addressed in the county. I did just want to mention that as well. I know we were looking really at the intersection of things, but we are very committed to this issue and we're very appreciative of the hearing that the board held last month on racial and social inequities.

I wanna just wrap up by saying that because we are so Our population is so represented within the jail population. It isn't essential that you consider behavioral wellness part of the criminal justice partnership because without us there, our folks are not represented and so I appreciate the opportunity to make remarks on this issue today and I'm happy to answer any questions.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:32:59 · ≈ 3:32 PM

Thank you very much Dr. Gleghorn. Are there questions for Dr. Gleghorn? Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.852:33:07 · ≈ 3:33 PM

Thank you. If I heard you, you said that we have remarkably consistent statistics to show that the people in the jail over 50% have had contact with our behavioral wellness in the past. Is that correct? 58% Yeah, almost 60

CommentHazel MortensenProposed · by introduction2:33:29 · ≈ 3:33 PM

every single year. It's around 58%.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.852:33:31 · ≈ 3:33 PM

And even with COVID that continues and in our background document it said that nationally in county jails, it's only about 33%. So are we comparing apples to apples? I'm just puzzled. Are we so far behind other areas and where did The number of people who need mental health services, can you comment on that?

CommentHazel MortensenProposed · by introduction2:34:00 · ≈ 3:34 PM

So in my view I think that number is a reflection of a number of different things. One is I think it's truly the desire of the community to make sure that people who have mental health and substance abuse issues are connected with care In some areas of the county, it's felt that the best way to get people into care is by arresting them when their offense is related to their condition. What we're seeing now at the state level specifically with these diversion grants is the idea that the condition that is leading to the arrest if that's a mental health condition, we need to treat that outside of the jail. So I think at some level, our solution has been to clear up a problem in the community by getting that person out of the community. And many times that might be for arrest.

Public Defender Makuga has some data on the types of arrests that are leading to incarceration or leading to the arrest and continuing the incarceration. Many of them are survival crimes or crimes related to homelessness And I think if we solve some of this, the homeless issues and provide people with stable housing environments, we'd see less of that kind of crime and greater opportunity to link people to appropriate treatment outside of conditions of incarceration.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:35:35 · ≈ 3:35 PM

Thank you Dr. Gladcorn. Any other questions for Dr. Gladcorn? Any questions from Santa Maria? Yeah. Director or Supervisor Adam.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:35:44 · ≈ 3:35 PM

Yeah, you know Dr. Gleghorn with all due respect I hear an awful lot of jargon here, and I've been asking since I got here. And you haven't been here in all fairness, you haven't been there the whole time. But I've been asking for some kind of proof that we do any good, and i have never seen it. And we continue to give more money to this effort. Your budget's $134 million a year, and At the end of it all.

And I'm very frustrated that, you know, I think I've been patient. I think I asked for concrete identifiable and disclosable criteria and I haven't gotten anything. So I'd really love it if you guys would show us, give us some evidence that all this treatment is actually doing something for someone. Because I hate to just divert people to a program that isn't going to do them any good.

CommentHazel MortensenProposed · by introduction2:37:08 · ≈ 3:37 PM

With respect Supervisor Adam, we actually have provided evidence of the impact of our programs. We provide evidence of people engaging in substance abuse treatment and reducing their substance abuse working having jobs returning to families becoming employed We do provide that evidence on the substance abuse side and we also give that evidence and we were just there a few weeks ago during budget talking specifically about our full service partnership programs that show repeatedly that when we invest in treatment for the clients that we reduce their site hospitalizations.

A six month report and an annual report every year with at least 20 pages worth of data. So we do provide evidence of the effectiveness of our programs, and I'm happy to review that with you again.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:38:20 · ≈ 3:38 PM

And I will just say that your evidence isn't what I keep asking for and maybe that's what frustrating me. What I keep asking for is numbers of individuals That are getting better and self-sufficient. Because we've had this conversation before, and apparently I'm just never going to see this before I leave but maybe somebody will keep asking for it after I'm gone.

I want to know how many people are coming in At a level of distress, and you and I have talked about different ways to characterize that. And then how are we reducing their level of distress? Making them more able to lead a life that is productive and at least lower stress. If they can't become entirely self-sufficient, because a lot of people can't. How are we getting them from Supervisor Williams.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:40:14 · ≈ 3:40 PM

I want to first of all partially validate that we need to look at numbers of stepping down, but I also want to in defense of the department really indicate you know we have some highly high acuity folks. My brother-in-law is a schizophrenic. There's no cure for schizophrenia, right? The victory is that he's able to live with his mother and not homeless or in jail, right? And that's the victory. And so it's there I do think that it's important to realize, and maybe it's the folks that I hang out with. I hang out with and have met many current and future or current and past patients of the department.

I see it affecting them in their lives and folks who would otherwise engage in levels of bad behavior that would definitely rise to the criminal justice system. Instead, having manageable lives, volunteering for non-profits, not able to pursue careers like they once did and normal lives like they once did but at least not becoming problems for the criminal justice system.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:42:04 · ≈ 3:42 PM

Mr. Chair,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:42:06 · ≈ 3:42 PM

Supervisor Adam.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:42:08 · ≈ 3:42 PM

Yeah all I'm talking about is quantifying those exact things because that's what I'm trying to see and show the taxpayers that we're actually doing some good and demonstrated by people who live higher quality lives than they would have if they were homeless or drug addicted. They're stabilized and they're in a home, and they cost less to deal with because they're stabilized. And those are the kind of things that I'm trying to show people.

And see myself. I'm interested in, you know, I've had a number of encounters with people that have children that are heartbreaking stories and that's how I started off on this quest for this kind of information and to make sure that our Activities result in the best possible outcomes. And I just see us dumping exponentially more dollars into this thing, but we're not seeing those kind of results that are the tangible results. We get these things that if people engage you have to believe that the criteria is met if people are engaged And I don't, that's just not good enough for me. I want to put a, and I know that there's limitations on this because of HIPAA and all that but I think there's ways to de-personify that data.

That we could see some people improving in a group as individuals, if you know what I mean? I don't want to belabor this anymore but Supervisor Williams, that's exactly what I'm talking about.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:44:24 · ≈ 3:44 PM

Are there any other questions for Dr. Quighorn? All right, well thank you for all of the presentations so far. We now are going to move to within the county government organizational structure and CEO Miyasato is going to lead that presentation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:44:45 · ≈ 3:44 PM

Thank you, Chair Hart and board members. We just have a few slides to talk about what we're doing in the county government in our organization regarding addressing racial equity issues and I asked Wendy Sims Moten as you know she's the director of First Five and she and along with Maria Elena de Guevara our HR Director who's here are going to give parts of this presentation and they've been instrumental in helping kind of look at what we've done and where we need to go so Wendy?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:45:12 · ≈ 3:45 PM

Welcome back Ms. Sims-Moten

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:45:14 · ≈ 3:45 PM

Thank you Chair Hart, members of the board. CEO Miyasato sitting there really entranced at that meeting trying to figure this out so I'm going to am glad to be back here a part of this process and so I will make it quickly but in terms of as CEO Miyasato said in terms of where we are and where we're going So as I had the opportunity to look at where we are and the importance of making sure that we have cultural proficiency within our own house. So in order for us to really achieve our mission of delivering exceptional public services to all in Santa Barbara County so they can enjoy a safe, healthy and prosperous life, we need to make sure our house, our in-house is in order with regards to that and what things that we need to look at And I think in our mission, the accountability is embedded within our mission.

So as we deliver services, are we delivering them in an equitable way? Are we delivering them in a culture way? And that means who we are as county employees. How are we delivering that service? Are we culturally proficient? Are looking at it through an equitable lens? So it starts with us. Racial and equity is important to fulfill the one county One future mission.

And it fits within the Renew 22 that we've been working on, all the county departments that have been working on. And the first of all is we have to revision how we do work in this national reckoning of race and equity. We've got to look at differently how we do our work. And we have to start acknowledging that we still have some ways to go. We have done some things, but we still have a far road to go because every time you start to talk about racial equity and diversity and inclusion, it becomes this difficult conversation for everyone. And believe me that it is uncomfortable on both sides.

The other thing we need to also make sure that we're responding to our community. What are they asking us to do? What are we doing about that? What are we going to do about that and how are we gonna hold ourselves accountable? Again, I say it's embedded in our mission. Are we delivering to all? Retaining and recruiting employees. Well, you know and we look at equity. We look at racial equity when people come people of color come to this county make particularly coming to this office of work or other entities in in the county they're looking for some cultural.

That something cultural that they can connect to. They may come and stay a short time, and then they're gone. There's nothing here to connect with. So that's really, really important. How do we do that culturally? I know there may be simple questions, and I know this gets asked. You know, I think about it. Where are the products for me to do my hair? Where are the foods that I like here? I know that sounds simple, but if you don't have to worry about that, and there's a plethora of products to be able to answer that question for it seems like, what are you talking about? But it's just that simple. Because again, that says how do I fit into this community and how does this community help me fit in?

And then I think as we incorporate as a value and belief in our county, it's important to know. I read this somewhere. It says we know from life in this country that people aren't always willing to take the extra step to understand others and their culture. People aren't always open to walking into someone else's shoes, especially when theirs are so comfortable.

As a county department, and we are implementing our own initiatives to further racial equality, diversity and inclusion. Countywide actions have also been underway. But you don't necessarily know how does that fit into one county, one future? We have different things depending on the mission of our individual departments but where can one go to look and say as a county this is how we're dealing with this. And so again, we need to look at what we're doing and how then we do that in a simple message Again, it's embedded in our mission.

And then secondly we need to talk about a consistent and integrated approach to addressing race inequity that will advance our progress. I think this subject, this issue is like a garden that you're going to have to tend to. It has to be nurtured. It has to be watered. It has to be weeded. So that all those things take care of it to be able to grow, to continue to grow and weed out things that hold it down in its ability to flourish.

And then lastly I'd like to say there's a very much needed county leadership involvement and support and that starts at the very top. An organizational culture is only as good as its culture and building that culture is not the only role for HR to play It's all of our responsibility. You can make our organization a more supportive and engaging place to work by understanding the perceptional, institutional and psychological process that impact the ways people interact with each other. Again those are those difficult conversations that we simply must have and not be afraid to have them.

And finally the opportunity to make greater and sustained progress is now. This is a momentum moment, but we can't stay in this moment. It has to be a moment for a movement for lasting change that transcends leadership. So when you know you come and work for the county, you live in the county, you know what it's about. I see you, we see them in terms of those pieces. So it's really important for us to continue the work. I know there's work that we are doing. There's a lot more that we need to do and I would charge us to have the difficult conversations we need to have We're all uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable having this conversation time and time again, but I'm willing to have it because I know that we can get to where we need to go.

So thank you for the opportunity to speak before you today and again what we need to do is embed it in our mission ask ourselves that question at the school board. We have a mission that says how we are prepared. We're preparing students for a world that's yet to be created So when we get off and get distracted in different things, we go back to that mission. Are we preparing? Is this conversation, is the resources, is our budget, is it preparing our students for a world yet to be created? So I say it's embedded in our mission and that as every department is doing their different things based on their mandates but again, it goes back to the one county, one future mission so thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:52:02 · ≈ 3:52 PM

Thank you Ms. Simms-Modin, that really summed it up well and focused our attention on the long term and the immediacy of integrating what we're aspiring to, to our daily work and the way we represent ourselves to everybody in our community so thank you very much for that. Are there any questions for Ms. Simms-Modin? We also have our Human Resources Director Maria Elena Dega-Rivera.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:52:31 · ≈ 3:52 PM

Yes, good afternoon board chair and members. And thank you Wendy for that. Um, I'm here today to present to you actions both taken and proposed that advanced racial equity diversity and inclusion efforts within the county organization. These actions were developed from a County wide perspective as well as from a unique departmental view together these efforts support in intentional and systemic approach to race equity in 2017 The county participated in the Government Alliance for Race and Equity by sending a cross-departmental team to the year of learning training.

And I'll be speaking in a moment about the outcome of that particular effort, but in 2018, the board also adopted a civil treatment policy and mandated training for all our county managers. To date over 489 managers have completed this course Then in 2019, just last year the county hired its first diversity and inclusion manager Henry Ventura. Henry's first task was to complete the Equal Employment Opportunity Report which set the foundation for the county's Diversity and Inclusion Plan Planning, if that makes sense. We don't have yet a plan so we're still developing it.

Henry also reviewed our current employment practices. This initial review resulted in launching a new interview panelist training that we ask all I would like to invite the panel members to complete and the strengthening of our testing recruitment processes to ensure that there is no adverse impact any specific applicant. Also with the hiring of the diversity and inclusion manager, we have been able to tap into the knowledge and resources from our local companies here in the county who are also tackling race and equity issues.

Sonos, Pacific Pride, Just Communities, UCSB, the Santa Barbara Zoo and Appeal to name just a few. They're partnering with the county to deepen our collective understanding and knowledge of the complex racial equity and diversity and inclusion topics. Finally, the D&I manager has incorporated concepts of civil treatment and diversity and inclusion to the county's new employee welcome program.

And so now I'll cover The accomplishments that the departments have made in these areas. And as you heard earlier, Be Well has been a leader in this area and has established cultural competency teams and a cultural competency coordinator as far back as 2014. The Public Health Department has recently created a health and equity coordinator position, and I know that Vaughn is very eager to hire and establish her race and health equity initiatives in her department.

You heard a little bit about the, you heard from all the criminal justice partners and all of them have been very instrumental in their areas and collectively. The Community Corrections Partnership last year established a racial inequity subcommittee And the Probation Department has also established initiatives to reduce racial and ethnic disparity. As you can see, there's a listing here of various trainings that departments along with First Five have invested in education for their workforce and or their constituents by offering these types of training.

Again, to one of the points that Wendy made We're all doing lots of things, but again where do we have it? Where it is towards the vision of one county, one future. And so it's good that we were able to call for this presentation to identify the efforts that the various departments have been making. The last thing I wanted to cover is the accessibility and translation And that became a big focus for the county.

Most evident in our Office of Emergency Services, but that was also a outcome of the first gear cohort that we sent to training they focused specifically in this area. So next I'll present the proposed actions and it is our We have an ongoing commitment to have consistency across the county in our approach to racial equity and diversity and inclusion. And we hope to identify an appropriate methodology and model that can ensure consistency for the county. We believe that this matter takes a village, and it takes the leadership of the village And so convening a department head committee will be crucial to the sustainability of whatever plan we identify.

We will explore partnerships, support and resources from organizations such as GAR who have the required tools, assessments and methodologies to help drive our efforts. Once we're equipped with the knowledge in the tools, we will create an integrated countywide race equity diversity and inclusion plan that can intentionally drive the culture change. We hope to return to you in late summer or fall with a more specific action plan and associated budget to codify our county strategy for addressing these issues.

The County of Santa Barbara is, and will continue to be committed and unified in our principles and values to transform the way we work So that the current sense of helplessness of many can turn to hopefulness for all. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed2:59:29 · ≈ 3:59 PM

Chair Hardoff, let me just finish up our presentation. So just other direction we mentioned in the staff report, the board did create an equity set aside at the June budget hearings. This is to remind you no direction was provided on the process for allocation or use. There's no deadline on spending and the board can direct us to come back with options or any time during the year as Ms. DeGuevara discussed.

We would like to be doing an assessment of all our programs that will serve the public or internally To see where there is more focus needed to address racial equity and then maybe with that information come back to the board and you can make some funding decisions. I'd also like to finally bring to your attention a request that was made to staff for removal of two plaques located on the grounds of the Santa Barbara courthouse, it's not in the PowerPoint because this came up after We finished our board letter. The plaques were commissioned by the local chapter of the Daughters of the American Revolution and are from 1927 and 1938, in honor of the first white settlers in the area. P&D staff researched this and determined that the plaques themselves are not historic landmarks but are on the grounds of our historical courthouse.

Staff also reached out to the Daughters of the American Revolution and they agreed to the plaque's removal Given the current climate and sensitivity to racial equity, General Services is the custodian of county facilities and property. And as such, the general services director does have the authority to move the plaques they intend to remove photo document and safeguard them in the courthouse archives in the interim. And it's working with County Council to ensure appropriate treatment and procedures are followed. We will also continue to work with the Daughters of American Revolution on this staff has delayed taking any action If the board wanted a chance to discuss that today.

Staff can also return to the board in the future for discussion of treatment of historic landmarks and determination of appropriateness within their historical context, and if a landmark did have historic designation we would involve the Historic Landmarks Advisory Commission to the board. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:01:37 · ≈ 4:01 PM

Thank you, CEO Miyasoda. And thank you very, very much for your hard work to get us to that place with the plaque issue so quickly. Well with that let's take a brief break and then gather ourselves for I think we have 40 speakers at this point? So and maybe I should close public comment at this point. We have, you know, 40 people that want to speak. The issue is important. We appreciate your input but we are starting to have time constraints.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:03:39 · ≈ 4:03 PM

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed3:14:03 · ≈ 4:14 PM

Yeah. Yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:17:38 · ≈ 4:17 PM

We convened the Board of Supervisors meeting and now we're going to public comment. We're gonna have to limit public comment to two minutes per speaker because we have more than 40 folks, and thank you for participating. We appreciate your comments and look forward to hearing from everybody.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:17:56 · ≈ 4:17 PM

Yes, Chair Hart, members of the board, we have 41 requests to speak on this item, and we are going to begin with Judge George Eskin to be followed by Lori Goodman. All righty, go

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed3:18:18 · ≈ 4:18 PM

ahead. Chair Hart and members of the board can you hear me?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:18:25 · ≈ 4:18 PM

Yes we can Judge Eskin thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed3:18:28 · ≈ 4:18 PM

Well this is George Eskin I appreciate the opportunity to share with you a few thoughts about the report submitted by Barney Malecki concerning the current status of Santa Barbara County's criminal justice reform efforts as some of you know I've spent those past 55 years working In various aspects of criminal justice, 11 years as a public prosecutor including a stint as Santa Barbara County's Assistant District Attorney.

25 years as a criminal defense attorney and 10 years as the Superior Court Judge before my retirement from the bench in 2013. Criminal justice in the United States has been based upon the belief that if we threaten people with punitive consequences they will be deterred from engaging in unlawful conduct And the longer the potential period of incarceration we prescribe, the less likely people will be to commit criminal offenses.

That approach has proved to be a failure and extremely costly at the state and local level resulting in America having the largest prison population in the world and the highest recidivism rates. It's not at all surprising to me that a significant reduction of inmates incarcerated in our county jail was accomplished in response to the threats presented by the COVID-19 pandemic. Several factors contribute to a unique environment in Santa Barbara County that fosters collaboration between the key departments. The extraordinary leadership of county executive officer Mona Miyasato and her keen interest in the function of our criminal justice system has been an inspiration to all, and the remarkable skills of Chief Probation Officer Tanya Eitman who you heard from today in balancing public safety concerns with compassion and understanding of the human condition cannot be overstated.

Public Defender Tracy McCougar, who you heard from today as a forceful advocate on behalf of a holistic approach to representation of indigent clients that addresses the underlying causes of the conduct that led to their arrest and therefore reduces the likelihood of recidivism. I embrace the comment she made to you today, and I don't think that you can ignore and it's extremely important to acknowledge the support of presiding Superior Court Judge Michael Carrozzo. Their efforts have demonstrated the potential for long-term reduction in the reliance on incarceration for nonviolent offenses and the potential benefits of alternatives to incarceration. Recommendations in Dr. Malekian's letter to the board should be embraced enthusiastically, including but not limited to expansion of probation's pretrial supervision program, increased use of the sheriff's alternative sentencing program, identification of the misdemeanor offenses that were the subject of 1700 citations to explore how many of them should be considered for diversion from court proceedings.

And encouraging significant reduction in the length of probationary terms. The district attorney's office should be encouraged to establish policies and procedures that support a shift toward diversion as a primary goal for many misdemeanor offenses that do not involve driving while intoxicated, domestic violence and sex crimes. The traditional justice agencies should continue to recognize the importance of including and working with The Department of Behavioral Wellness and other service providers to expand meaningful programs and services. The Board must invest in providing more beds for residential treatment. I'm compelled to call to your attention an omission from the report that was referred to today by Tracy Makuga and Tonya Heitman, the Recommendation for Bail Modification Working Group does not identify the fact that the Superior Court judges are required by current law to adopt an annual bail schedule.

But in three months, on November 3rd, the voters of California will decide whether to pass Proposition 24 which will end the practice of cash bail and eliminate bail schedules. Also on the ballot is Proposition 20 which would roll back much of the progress achieved by Proposition 47 And while the report states that the courts are not part of county government, I urge you to encourage the active participation of the Superior Court judges who after all are responsible for appointing the Chief Probation Officer and they have a significant impact on county government's public safety efforts. I cannot say enough about the value of your chief probation officer Tanya Heitman who I think is the key person moving forward in criminal justice reform in Santa Barbara County.

Thank you for giving me this time. I appreciate your attention to this incredibly important work.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:23:37 · ≈ 4:23 PM

Thank you, Judge Eskin. Appreciate your comments and your many years of experience helps us navigate through this issue. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:23:47 · ≈ 4:23 PM

We will now go to Lori Goodman to be followed by Diana Littell. All righty, go ahead.

PresenterLori Goodman I'mthe Isla Vista Youth ProjectProposedself-stated3:24:06 · ≈ 4:24 PM

Okay this is Lori Goodman can you hear me?

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Yes we can.

PresenterLori Goodman I'mthe Isla Vista Youth ProjectProposedself-stated3:24:13 · ≈ 4:24 PM

Great well first of all thank you Supervisor Hart and the entire Board of Supervisors for considering this important topic I'm Lori Goodman I'm the Executive Director of the Isla Vista Youth Project. IVYT mitigates the effects of poverty racism and trauma by providing High quality trauma-informed child care, comprehensive culturally competent family support and visionary community leadership.

These times are calling for more bold thinking. We must be more creative, more courageous and more collaborative. We know that so many folks in the criminal justice system are victims of poverty, trauma and structural racism Investing in programs that address these problems must be part of the solution. We must consider primary prevention years before someone gets to criminal justice. How are we supporting engagement and early childhood? How are we supporting families?

Our communities of color are overrepresented in our criminal justice system, And these communities disproportionately experience inequities in educational and health outcomes. The social determinants of the health are rooted in poverty, trauma and racism. So I encourage you all to consider how can the Board of Supervisors better and more strategically invest in primary prevention?

How can you support your family resource centers? There's a tremendous network across this county, and we are all doing that work. And investing in early childhood education and bringing people together across economic and racial boundaries. I hope you'll consider the community-based alternatives to incarceration that were recommended in the hearing today

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed3:26:25 · ≈ 4:26 PM

Thank

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you. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed3:26:29 · ≈ 4:26 PM

Thank you, Miss Goodman. As a former Isla Vista Youth Projects kid I just want to thank you for your work.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:26:36 · ≈ 4:26 PM

Well said.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:26:37 · ≈ 4:26 PM

Chair Hart and members of the board we were unfortunately unable to reach Diana Littell so we will be going to Chris Nordens to be followed by Anna Zepeda Go ahead, Chris.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed3:27:00 · ≈ 4:27 PM

Hello. Yeah, I just wanted to throw my full support behind anything that reinvests in communities and away from police. I'd like to point out that if you invest in youth, their interactions with law enforcement at an early age definitely puts them on the school-to-prison pipeline. So anything we can do to prevent that We do need to examine our actual policing habits, too.

That's like I think Bill Brown said we don't have a race problem in policing and that's like saying you don't have a garbage problem at the dump. It's it's like racism is so pervasive in our society that that's pretty blatantly absurd. So anything we can do to reallocate funds away from the fund and into these programs that we're doing that and I would To the gentleman representative Maria that if you are provided with evidence, but you're not going to get a perfect proof of evidence that something is perfectly going to work and that like you need to reimagine what good outcomes are for our citizens.

You can, if you don't want to pay for it just say so just don't keep repeating that it's not proven because nothing is going to be proven to your satisfaction. So if you want to be cruel, just, you know advocate for a cruel policy and just I would like to remind you that cruelty is expensive. But when you put people in jail, it's 60,000 person a year per person. When you provide a bed even if it's not the perfect outcome and they make a perfect productive consumer for you that doesn't mean that that's not the positive outcomes like Representative Williams described like if a person who isn't capable of holding down employment And that's when these investments pay off. Not investing in the community has obviously cost us so much more in the long run than keep repeating these, these old outdated policies as the previous speakers described.

So I'd also like to advocate for the banning of chokeholds and absolutely having a civilian panel for policing so that if there is racism it can be identified and we absolutely cannot depend on the police to police themselves, because we are seeing the credibility of that profession being lost along with the company and it is on them to reestablish their credibility. And for the DA to see what they can do to reduce the amount of people in prison. Thank you

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:29:22 · ≈ 4:29 PM

Chris, that is your time, thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:29:25 · ≈ 4:29 PM

Thank you sir.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:29:28 · ≈ 4:29 PM

Our next speaker is Anna Cepeda to be followed by Diana Littell. Go ahead, Anna.

GuestAnna TopedaSheriffProposedself-stated3:29:46 · ≈ 4:29 PM

All right, thank you. My name is Anna Topeda and I come today as a mother and part of the Santa Barbara community. And there is a need to dismantle the dismantlement of internal sheriff-only investigations and create a civil review board to investigate police misconduct. Change the use of force policies to prioritize deescalation. Ban chokeholds required exhaust All other alternatives before shooting duty to intervene, and that I want to pay attention to that too.

Require exhaust all alternative. So as somebody who has been impacted by police brutality in within my family I want to make sure that you all are aware that we need to figure out different ways to ensure that this does not occur, that one more person gets affected by the police brutality. And providing community-based alternatives through detention and justice systems again as somebody who has been impacted by this, this isn't something that we should continue doing.

We will require long term financial... Of course we know that this will require financial Thank you, Mr Mayor. I'm here to support and considering it costs $169 per bed per day to keep somebody incarcerated and the population has been reduced by 37% since COVID-19. The county has been saving $55,770 per day, and these funds need to be accounted for and need to go and reverse the upward trend of student suspension and expulsion, especially students of color, English learners, and folks with disabilities. Do not just save what you are going to be doing and having the same generic youth flyers showing over and over again. We need to really show the progress that we are going to be making and actually show it through action and having real transparency and equality

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:32:04 · ≈ 4:32 PM

We

GuestAnna TopedaSheriffProposedself-stated3:32:04 · ≈ 4:32 PM

will now go to Diana Littell to be

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Holly Anderson. Good

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afternoon, can everybody hear

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me?

PresenterDiana LytleSanta Barbara DefendersProposedself-stated3:32:33 · ≈ 4:32 PM

Great, good afternoon Chair Hart and Supervisors. I'm Diana Lytle and I'm commenting on behalf of the Santa Barbara Defenders. For those that don't know we're a county-wide organization of more than 40 local criminal defense practitioners. We're commenting today as to the recommendations regarding criminal justice reform and racial equity in Santa Barbara. And foremost among our concerns in dealing with criminal justice reform is the problem of over incarceration and the disparate impact of persons of color. We're concerned that with the expected settlement in the recent Murray case, that there's going to be a push towards funding renovation of the South County Jail.

As I'm sure most of you saw on the recent Santa Maria Sun article, counsel for the DRC noted that nothing in the settlement prevents the county from meaningfully reducing its jail system. We're asking the board today to suspend any funding for the renovation of the South County Jail and instead, to study and promote the repurposing of the main jail for other than involuntary confinement of human beings. By doing so you will send a clear message that you intend to reduce the over-incarceration of people in color, African Americans in particular, the homeless as well as the profoundly mentally disordered in the county of Santa Barbara.

The county's jail inmate population past and present significantly over represents people of color. You know, we accept that there are effective jail alternatives such as those that have been mentioned today including electronic monitoring the sheriff work alternative program as well as community outpatient residential treatment programs and there is in fact no evidence that incarcerating more than 376 people at any given time reduces crime in the county It's time to heal those old wounds, reinvent criminal justice in a way that provides justice for everyone. And it's time to say to the African-American community and to our communities of color that we hear you loud and clear. We need to reimagine how we structure criminal justice and public safety with the county's response to the COVID pandemic that resulted in the lowest jail population in decades and crime has not skyrocketed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:34:45 · ≈ 4:34 PM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:34:46 · ≈ 4:34 PM

Thank you, Ms. Littell.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:34:48 · ≈ 4:34 PM

We will now go to Holly Anderson to be followed by Maureen Earls-Clew. Alrighty, go ahead.

CommentHolly AndersonProposedself-stated3:35:11 · ≈ 4:35 PM

Hello?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:35:13 · ≈ 4:35 PM

Yes, you can go ahead.

CommentHolly AndersonProposedself-stated3:35:15 · ≈ 4:35 PM

Somebody still speaking. Good afternoon, supervisors. My name is Holly Anderson. I'm speaking for the Santa Barbara Society of Friends and you should have a copy of the statement that I mailed today. This is a minute on justice and equity through racial healing From the Santa Barbara Friends Meeting, Quakers. As people of faith with a deep commitment to equality, civil rights, justice and peace we commit to continuing our work toward racial healing and inclusion both locally and nationally grounded in spirit through steady prayer and action.

It springs from our beliefs that we are all one people, one human community. Friends meeting of Santa Barbara Quakers It stands with those protesting the continuing law enforcement violence against people of color as we affirm that black lives matter. We are appalled by the disproportionate use of force by the Santa Barbara police and around the country. We mourn with our families as we call for justice for the murders of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor and our own Brian Carreno along with countless other victims of police violence and institutional racism.

This persistence violence illustrates the predominant practice of white supremacy in the United States that are harmful both to the oppressor and the oppressed. We call on our elected officials, including the mayor and city council of Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara County supervisors, state assembly and Senate members to prohibit the use of lethal and non-lethal weapons by the police against demonstrators and the continuing disproportionate use of violence against black indigenous and people of color.

We call on our leaders to redirect police funding towards new investment in communities of color, towards mandatory civilian oversight and towards alternative emergency response programs. As Quakers we offer our skills in non-violence group processes and communication to work with civic leaders and organizations toward the goal of a more just and inclusive society.

Excessive police violence is only part of the racism faced by people of color In the spirit of our belief in continuing revelation, Quakers commit to recognizing calling out and dismantling systemic racism wherever we encounter it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:37:45 · ≈ 4:37 PM

Thank you all for your time. Thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:37:50 · ≈ 4:37 PM

Ms. Anderson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:37:52 · ≈ 4:37 PM

We will now go to Maureen Earls-Clew to be followed by Chelsea Lancaster. All righty, go ahead.

CommentMaureen EarlesProposedself-stated3:38:13 · ≈ 4:38 PM

Good afternoon. Thank you so much for this valuable meeting. I'm Maureen Earles and I'm co-chair of the CLU Interfaith Criminal Justice Work Group and in CLU's letter to you we made five specific recommendations for reforms to reduce recidivism. And today I'm speaking about alternatives to investment in policing by redirecting funding of over $1 million per year in the realignment budget.

This recommendation is also supported by Dr. Austin's team report to you, this independent report evaluated Santa Barbara spending of 10 million per year in the realignment budget. So today we report for the public record five findings and recommendations regarding alternatives to policing In Dr. Austin's report, the Santa Barbara funding for the Sheriff Compliance Response Teams does not follow the intent for realignment funding which is to invest in programs to reduce returns to jail.

The report also recommended Santa Barbara reallocation of this Sheriff Compliance Response Team funding which was approximately $1 million yearly Dr. Austin's report stated these response teams' investment in other comparable counties is zero, or much lower. Dr. Austin reports that the adult arrest rates in Santa Barbara County are over twice the state rate which is driven by a very high misdemeanor rate and the CTR response teams add to these arrests And finally, number five, Dr. Austin recommended reallocation of this funding but instead the Santa Barbara Realignment Executive Committee voted to increase the funding from $964,000 in 2016 to over $1,300,000 in the 2021 budget. Thank you. That is your time. Okay thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:40:36 · ≈ 4:40 PM

Thank you, Ms. Earls.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:40:39 · ≈ 4:40 PM

We will now go to Chelsea Lancaster to be followed by Landon Rannach.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed3:41:29 · ≈ 4:41 PM

Go ahead, Chelsea. Hi. So on the subject of safety I want to continue to bring us back to the question about safety for whom? As W.E.B Du Bois said a system cannot fail those it was never meant to protect. Our system was never meant to protect Black and brown people, indigenous people, poor people, people with disabilities and people who experience other forms of marginalization including our houseless community. I'm here to talk about...I want to really emphasize what Tracy said that 88% of our folks who have been released from the county jail have not recidivated. When Sheriff Brown talks about the need for more data he certainly doesn't have a problem using data that fear mongers our community to increase The budget based on things that are not really happening.

I want to name the fact that there have been endless lawsuits around the cruel and unusual and inhumane conditions of the jail. Somehow, Sheriff Brown has used that as an impetus to use our community dollars to build another jail. I would like the supervisors to consider following the lead of LA County who is shuttering their main jail. If you insist on building a second jail, you need to close the original jail. Period, end of story. The ACLU jail project has a ton of research on the jail. Why are we not asking why it has not been released? There's information in that project that we need to know about. I want to bring up the sexual abuse if we're talking about crime. The guards in the Santa Barbara County Jail have been committing sexual offenses against the women in the jail for a long time.

Two were just released So if we're going to talk about crime and we're going to talk about who needs to be able to use chokeholds, maybe we need to train the female inmates in the jail about chokeholds so they stop being assaulted by the guards. You have threatened our community's safety by investing too much money in policing, too much money in incarceration and too much money in our youth. This is an absolute disservice to our community. We need to reinvest in youth programs Starting in the K-12 system and preschools. We need to really take a deep look, nobody even brought up racial equity on this call. Thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:43:47 · ≈ 4:43 PM

Chelsea that is your time thank you. We will now go to Landon

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Renick to be followed by Dylan Griffith

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:44:15 · ≈ 4:44 PM

All righty, go ahead.

CommentLandon Rank I'mProposedself-stated3:44:17 · ≈ 4:44 PM

Good afternoon members of the Board of Supervisors and board chairman Hart. My name is Landon Rank I'm a born and raised Santa Barbara who attended public schools in the city and county of Santa Barbara and now serve as operations manager for a nonprofit in Santa Barbara County. I am white and I stand in solidarity with the local Black Lives Matter movement. I've witnessed firsthand the ways that systemic racism has affected my peers and neighbors in Santa Barbara since my first recognition on the Washington School playground that most of my peers were white Even though the school's demographics were far more mixed.

All the way until now, as I see the ways that the Sheriff's Department has been willing to cooperate with ICE despite SB54 and other actions creating a culture of fear of law enforcement among the local immigrant community which makes up a substantial part of our community here in Santa Barbara County. I firmly believe we must re-examine the way we treat law enforcement as a community so I do support the demands to disband the sheriff only investigation to create a civilian review board to investigate police misconduct And include the creation of this board in the contract between Goleta and SB County Sheriff's Department.

To change the use of force policies to prioritize de-escalation including banning choke holds and strangleholds, requiring de-escalation, requiring exhaust all alternatives before shooting duty to intervene, banning shooting at moving vehicles, requiring use of force continuum Creating a standing committee to eliminate racism in policing by the Sheriff's Department and systematically implement mental health services, housing rehabilitation and aspects of community policing.

Provide mental health and substance abuse treatment services prior to arrest. End all plans to fund and construct a new county jail especially given the current status of reduction in population within jails Commit to investing in youth and de-investing in policing, so providing resources to stopping racial bias and reversing the upward trend of student suspensions and not increasing police spending in Goleta. The status quo is unsustainable for our community. Santa Barbara has been a good home to me and I want to see it become a good home to everyone who lives here. So I urge you to join with us in taking action. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:46:15 · ≈ 4:46 PM

Thank You Mr. Rigg

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We will now go to Dylan Griffith to be followed by Kathy Shehram All righty, go ahead. Dylan? Yes I'm here. You can go ahead with your comments.

CommentDylan GriffithsProposedself-stated3:46:44 · ≈ 4:46 PM

Okay thank you so much. Awesome hi there my name is Dylan Griffiths. I'm the development director for Freedom For Youth. We're a grassroots nonprofit organization that provides direct service to those in and out of the justice system throughout Santa Barbara County and we have been for the last 12 years. So today I want to talk a little bit about money and where we can go with the county's money. So as stated earlier, it costs $169 per bed per day to keep someone incarcerated at Santa Barbara County Jail.

And as we know, the jail population has been significantly reduced by 37% since COVID-19. Yesterday's count of the jail was 578 people compared to over 900 in early March. It's a reduction of approximately 330 people that means there's a savings of $55,770 per day by keeping people out of jail If you times that by 30, that's $1.6 million per month. There's also a new wave of people that are going to be released coming next week so these numbers will only increase. So my question is where is this funding going? I understand there are fixed costs associated with decarceration that are not included in that calculation but that money needs to go to community based alternatives and not back into law enforcement.

That per day cost equates to $5,000 per person per month. That's enough money to provide support For each individual through community-based organizations, specifically ones who curate services to support these populations. Specifically those led by black people, indigenous people and people of color and specifically those who work both inside and outside of detention facilities.

There needs to be financial reallocations of the money saved through this decarceration and as well from the general budgets of law enforcement into the hands of community-led services. Specific groups in the community that funding should be reallocated to include Healing Justice Santa Barbara, El Centro and Freedom for Youth as they have demonstrated success and dedication to this work.

This is how we as a county can be proactive instead of reactive when it comes to justice system. The individuals in the system those who have exited the system and those with a higher probability for some system involvement based on their race Socioeconomic status, etc. are not the problem. The issue at hand is the lack of alternatives to detention and options for diversion from the system.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:48:58 · ≈ 4:48 PM

Thank you

CommentDylan GriffithsProposedself-stated3:48:59 · ≈ 4:48 PM

so

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:48:59 · ≈ 4:48 PM

much. Thank you Mr. Griffith.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:49:06 · ≈ 4:49 PM

Our next speaker is Kathy Sheram to be followed by Tom Parker Go ahead Kathy.

CommentKathy SherramProposedself-stated3:49:26 · ≈ 4:49 PM

Hi, my name is Kathy Sherram and I'm a resident of Santa Maria. I'm speaking to voice my support for demands put forth by the NAACP in addressing racial inequities and moving towards real justice reform. I appreciate all of the reports and presentations today as they pertain to reducing numbers of people in prisons and jails but my comments are really directed at who gets arrested or accused In the first place, and why? Until we address racial biases, we're not addressing real needs and underlying problems that exist. And there won't be lasting solutions that result in fewer incarcerations and healthier communities for all of us.

That said I was happy to hear a restorative justice mentioned, and I was extremely encouraged by the statements of the final speakers beginning with Ms. McCougar. But today I'm asking that the board seriously consider the following Commit to really investing in our youth. Racial bias needs to stop so that all of our kids can set their sights on a future that doesn't include harassment, prison or death. End cooperation between ICE and the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department.

Provide mental health services, substance abuse treatment and rehabilitation services before arrest. Create a standing committee that eliminates racist policing by the sheriff's department Change use of force policies with an emphasis on de-escalation tactics. Require a use of force continuum, and lastly disband internal sheriff only investigations. We need transparency when it comes to police misconduct and the Civilian Review Board to investigate these cases. Thank you very much for your

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time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:51:17 · ≈ 4:51 PM

Thank you Ms. Sheeran.

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We will now go to Tom Parker to be followed by Jonathan Abood.

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CommentTom ParkerProposedself-stated3:51:42 · ≈ 4:51 PM

Good afternoon, Chairman Hart and board members. My name is Tom Parker. I'm a retired assistant special agent in charge of the FDI's Los Angeles regional office. I also served as a fire and police commissioner for the city of Santa Barbara and hold a master's degree in public safety management. As a part of the 55 years I've served in our criminal justice system, I've also been a consultant at court qualified expert witness on police and corrections practices around the country for the past 20 years, which included investigations and inspections in some of the largest jails and prisons in the country. But today I'd like to briefly address the policing function of the Sheriff's Department in the county. I recognize a separation of powers that exists between that department and the County Board but as you know there are distinct partnerships and linkages between the department and this board through some of the other county departments.

The various measures that have been addressed in this report are a good start in reducing the jail population, and I totally agree with them. But with all due respect, and I do have great respect for Barney Malikian, the one observation I have is that this report was too narrow. It only addressed one system of an even bigger problem demonstrated by the nationwide protests and demands by Black Lives Matter and similar groups telling us that the time has come for meaningful changes to our policing system.

And since the Sheriff does have the largest policing function in the county, I thought it appropriate to address that. The report did not directly deal with the loud hue and cry we're hearing across the country from Black Lives Matter and other similar groups but I think it's still important that this issue be addressed I've personally witnessed in my work, witnessed and investigated excessive use of force by police and correctional officers as well as racially driven abusive practices in almost every region of the country.

We at the FBI investigated such cases too many times in my work I've encountered needless deaths of racial minorities and others at the hands of the police. I urge you to seriously consider those additional issues As your next step in confronting racial inequality and actually achieving true criminal justice in the county, it can be done. Thank you for opening the conversation on this. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:54:07 · ≈ 4:54 PM

Thank You Mr. Parker

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We will now go to Jonathan Abboud to be followed by Richard Solomon

CommentMaureen EarlesProposedself-stated3:54:28 · ≈ 4:54 PM

Hi

CommentJonathan AbboudProposedself-stated3:54:30 · ≈ 4:54 PM

everybody, my name is Jonathan Abboud. Thank you for holding this hearing today on racial equity and criminal justice reform. I want to focus the majority of my comments on supporting the work of Healing Justice BLM SB but before I start I also want to respond to what I heard earlier in the presentation. I thought it was disturbing that there was almost no mention or maybe zero mention of I think that's you know, I echo what the former speaker just said on the report. I heard a lot of good programs that reach a small number of people and I think there needs to be a wholesale change in expansion of those diversion programs that they're the main focus also like Judge Eskin said and it also needs to... It can't just be about boosting funding but fundamentally changing how the funding there exists is being used Instead of keeping things the same.

Law enforcement has always been the best funded local agency relative to the others, and it needs to use what it has to serve the public better. Last time I spoke, they noted that overtime which was hundreds of thousands if not millions being spent. Other noted savings from the lower jail population. That money needs to be going towards divergent programs and community-based organizations focused on racial equity and youth and family services. And so just also want to mention What Chelsea Lancaster said earlier, we insist on building the new jail. The old one needs to stop operating as a jail. It would just be wrong to keep it. And also disbanding sheriff-only investigations and creating a civilian review board has been mentioned before, changing the use of force policies to prioritize deescalation, creating a standing committee that's focusing on eliminating racism in policing in the Sheriff's Department and committing to investing in youth and deinvesting in overpolicing communities that have been historically Over police.

Thank you for your time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:56:21 · ≈ 4:56 PM

Thank you, Mr Boone.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:56:24 · ≈ 4:56 PM

Mr Chair.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.833:56:28 · ≈ 4:56 PM

I'm sorry this is Supervisor Lavanino. Unfortunately, I've got a relative that's hospitalized and I need to go to a meeting at the hospital so I'm sorry I'm going to have to duck away. I will check back in with you and with Mona to get an update on the rest of the public comment. So thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:56:46 · ≈ 4:56 PM

Thank you, Supervisor Lavanina Supervisor Williams.

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I just wanted to remark, I don't want to have anyone change their public comment but I did want to address something that one of those that supervisor Adam brought up before. I mean some of this work and some of the things that the members of the public are asking for are not in the Board of Supervisors powers we have pursued this issue to try to create a responsiveness from government on them.

What is usually called for by the Board of Supervisors is to write the check for all of these departments, so we have Not the ability to administer these departments, but we do have the responsibility to fund them which is an awkward place for us. So we're kind of in, kind of out. I just wanted to remark that the purpose for this is not us to just step outside of our jurisdiction, but because we are the legislative body and the budgetary body that is required to pay for things.

To be able to raise some of the issues of fundamental racial justice and Is is the pre covid jail population. Are they supposed to be should they all be there and you know, I think there's been a lot of evidence of why not all of them should be and how that has racial dimensions and how that has obviously budgetary dimensions for the taxpayers in

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:58:46 · ≈ 4:58 PM

We will now go to Richard Solomon, to be followed by Charlotte Glopmore. All righty, go ahead Richard. Richard?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed3:59:13 · ≈ 4:59 PM

He's still talking.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:59:15 · ≈ 4:59 PM

Yes there is a slight delay so you can go ahead now.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed3:59:18 · ≈ 4:59 PM

Oh all right. Hello good afternoon this is Richard Solomon thank you for scheduling this meeting in addition to comments I made in the letter that I submitted along with a group of my friends. I just want to say that you should take the cue to move in a different direction seriously and that is to support our neighbors specifically the NAACP and Healing Justice Black Lives Matter Santa Barbara And think begin to think seriously about a police civilian police sheriff's review process. The city is moving in that direction and there's really no reason for you not to at least start the process. This does not have to cost a lot of money if anything this could simply be a series of hearings the appointment of an advisory body that could advise the city on what kind of review body makes sense with participation from, of course, the groups most affected People are willing to serve without charge, without payout, without charging for this.

This could be a citizen's effort with all the stakeholders which obviously includes the sheriff, all the stakeholders including the county and its agencies. This could happen. This could happen soon and there is no reason for the process not to start. Thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:00:33 · ≈ 5:00 PM

Thank you Mr. Solomon

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:00:36 · ≈ 5:00 PM

We will now go to Charlotte Gallup-Moore to be followed by Kim Pascage

CommentCharlotte Gallet-MooreProposedself-stated4:00:55 · ≈ 5:00 PM

Go ahead, Charlotte. Good afternoon Board of Supervisors. The following statements are of my own opinion and I am speaking for myself. My name is Charlotte Gallet-Moore. I'm a nurse practitioner living in District 1 providing health care for the community at large. My request from the Board of Supervisors is that they do not increase any budget item line for the Santa Barbara Police Department Until the following directives have been executed or in or developed to be executed, starting with the removal of police qualified immunity. As you know, qualified immunity doctrine shields the officer from any suits unless the officer's actions violate clearly established law to which there is no specific law established. Number two, implement a use-of-force policy with mandatory de-escalation Training and policy requirements of all sworn officers.

Prohibit any use of physical restraint maneuvers on or above the neck. Mandatory requirement that officers render immediate medical aid to all people. Mandatory requirement that officers intervene when another officer is using excessive physical force inappropriately, if not already implemented But you start requirement for our local law enforcement to use existing federal funds to ensure the use of police body cameras.

Next department of just also create a Department of Justice Task Force to coordinate The investigation, prosecution and enforcement efforts of federal state and local governments in cases related to law enforcement misconduct. And last but not least most importantly as a clinician conduct psychological re-evaluations of all police officers and staff to rule out characteristics or traits of racist ideology It's hard with the type of I don't think that individuals should not be functioning in a job without direct contact with the public or involving the public. Secondly, any officer or staff member with internal affairs records for complaints of racist actions should be suspended without pay or fired to fine multiple, fine with multiple occurrences.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:03:25 · ≈ 5:03 PM

Thank you, Charlotte. That is your time. Thank you. Thank you very

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:03:31 · ≈ 5:03 PM

much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:03:33 · ≈ 5:03 PM

Unfortunately, we were unable to reach Kim so we are going to Billy Joe Starr to be followed by Lawanda Lyons Pruitt. Unfortunately, I think we might have lost Billy. Hold on just a moment. All righty go ahead.

PresenterDr. Billie Jo StarrFreedom For Youth and a professorProposedself-stated4:04:35 · ≈ 5:04 PM

Okay. Hi, I'm Dr. Billie Jo Starr and I just want to thank the Board of Supervisors for convening this important hearing today. I am the Executive Director of Freedom For Youth and a professor at Santa Barbara City College in UCSD and I teach in our Santa Barbara County Jail. For the last 12 years in collaboration with probation and Sheriff's Department, I have provided direct service and community-led organization and provider for adults and youth inside and outside the justice system. I also have personal experience in the system as my uncle Billy, who I'm named after was killed while serving his federal prison sentence. I know from my own experience over the last 12 years and the experiences of people I've worked with that community-based organizations specifically both inside and outside of the system best support people with their criminogenic needs.

There, I'm really curious to revisit the part that community-based organizations play in the collaborative discharge planning process that the Sheriff referenced because I want to make sure that we people that are released are receiving these services and support and accountability once they reenter our community. I'm asking that the funds must be reallocated to community based organizations that are boots on the ground and focused on restorative justice and diversion As you know, we have the highest rate of children living in poverty in this state.

And of those children, 88% of them are children of color and today I'm just heartened to see that for the first 2 hours of this meeting there was not one mention of race at all. Poverty is the number 1 predictor of involvement Those individuals that are in our county jail have also been in our juvenile system. So, individuals are at a higher risk of being involved based on race or socioeconomic status and they're also typically survivors of trauma and crime. These individuals are not the problem. The problem is that incarceration is the only option if our counties first go to Instead of mental health treatment and substance abuse needs. We can and must

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:06:52 · ≈ 5:06 PM

do better. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:06:54 · ≈ 5:06 PM

Thank you, Dr. Starr.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:06:58 · ≈ 5:06 PM

We are now going to Athena Tan to be followed by I'm sorry Kim Pascage Alrighty, go ahead Athena.

CommentAthena TanProposed4:07:25 · ≈ 5:07 PM

Supervisors and CEO Miyazato you can't pursue racial justice around criminalization by seeking solutions within the sheriff DA and probation systems or by asking them what works best for the people that they're uniquely able to repress and control. You disrespected your constituents by holding last month's hearing and then following it up with this press conference that shows you weren't listening Where are the voices of people who are deliberately made to feel unsafe and disposable by the agencies he just gave a platform to? Why didn't you insist that Barney Melechian, a career police officer, recuse himself from working on this report.

The measures listed in today's report show that you still don't understand how fundamentally criminalization and the concept of criminal justice in this country are tied up with anti-blackness and white supremacy and they're fundamentally dehumanizing not rehabilitating. Electronic monitoring, for example, is a demeaning system that has nothing to do with rehabilitation or equity.

And including behavioral wellness under the umbrella of criminal justice just expands the logic of policing and jails and corrupts the very idea of wellness. This is what you're doing with the new jail and it needs to stop now. You have black visionaries from Healing Justice and the NAACP telling you what it looks like to stop investing in criminalization and truly invest in people's ability to thrive. So please use any powers you have to withhold funds from the sheriff unless they end collaboration with ICE, end internal sheriff-only investigations, create an independent civilian review board with subpoena power, end all plans to fund and complete the new jail, and truly commit to investing in youth well-being and divesting from criminal justice.

If you don't want to help then don't stand in the way. Bye Billy and bye Joyce!

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:09:24 · ≈ 5:09 PM

Thank you, Miss Tam.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:09:25 · ≈ 5:09 PM

We will now go to Kim Pascage to be followed by Elyse Cosart-Dailey.

PresenterDr. Billie Jo StarrFreedom For Youth and a professorProposedself-stated4:09:49 · ≈ 5:09 PM

Alrighty, go ahead.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed4:09:51 · ≈ 5:09 PM

Hello Supervisors. As we reimagine the role of police in our community, I would like to see the breakdown of 911 calls for Santa Barbara County. What percentage are non-violent issues? What percentage of 9-1-1 calls are related to mental health, houselessness, wellness checks, substance abuse? I believe this data can empower you to see the true needs in our county. In many cities these mental health, houseless, wellness checks can account for over 50% of the 911 calls. Rerouting these calls to mental health professionals would greatly impact our community for the better Cities like Eugene, Oregon have mobile mental health clinics. And out of 24,000 rerouted 911 calls in 2019 only 150 of those calls required any police backup. That means that 99% of the calls were handled by mental health teams without any need for law enforcement.

We're asking you to scrutinize the money you have allotted for policing and jails in our county and redistributed it to mental health and rehabilitation services The mobile mental health clinic in Oregon currently takes up 3% of the budget, a huge savings compared to the cost of law enforcement. We are also asking for more civilian oversight from the communities most policed and the creation of civilian review boards to oversee police misconduct and racist policing practices. Recently, the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors voted to initiate a plan to close the men's central jail in downtown LA within the year The panel vowed to reinvest any savings from closing the facility towards health-based responses that improve both health and public safety outcomes for our communities.

Do not use any of our taxpayer money to renovate the Espy County Jail. We need bold systemic changes that address the racial disparity in our local criminal justice system. That requires your leadership, that requires resources, transparency and accountability. The status quo is no longer an option. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:11:49 · ≈ 5:11 PM

Thank you miss Biscayne.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:11:52 · ≈ 5:11 PM

We will now go to Elise Cosart daily to be followed by Lawanda Lyons Pruitt.

CommentElise Cosart-DalyProposedself-stated4:12:13 · ≈ 5:12 PM

Good afternoon Chairperson Hart and members of the board thank you for the opportunity to provide public comment My name is Elise Cosart-Daly, and I'm a civil rights anti-discrimination and environmental lawyer here in Santa Barbara County. I am calling to encourage you to shift our existing model of policing and incarceration so that we can move towards the more humane and racially just community that is safe for all community members including those who are black, indigenous, and people of color.

To that end, I respectfully request that the board Ban internal sheriff's investigations and create and fund a civilian review board to investigate sheriff misconduct. Create and fund a civilian oversight committee to identify and eliminate racist policing in the Sheriff's Department. I loved the request for a position dedicated to data collection, both on sheriff and district attorney practices but that position must be housed outside of those offices to ensure transparency and independence of the data.

I also encourage you to continue to reduce the jail population on a permanent basis. I encourage you to not hold any individuals charged with low-level offenses in the jail prior to a court hearing on their case, to the extent that you have power over the district attorney's duties as a county officer I recommend and request that you direct the DA to divert all, not just some low-level offenders from incarceration to rehabilitative programs.

I also request that you direct existing funds to creating humane conditions in the Santa Barbara County Jail. We can divest in the jail while simultaneously ensuring the civil and human rights of the people that are held there. As you know, in the Murray v. County of Santa Barbara lawsuit The conditions of the jail are simply inhumane. All individuals in the jail need a place to sleep, they need adequate medical care and access to medication particularly life-saving medications. I applaud the county for the work that they've already done reducing the jail population because of COVID-19 and it shows that you can continue to do this. Thank you so much for the opportunity to comment and for your time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:14:32 · ≈ 5:14 PM

Thank You Ms. Cozart Daly

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:14:35 · ≈ 5:14 PM

We will now go to Luanda Lyons-Pruitt, to be followed by Christian Alonso. All righty, go ahead Luanda.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed4:15:04 · ≈ 5:15 PM

Chairman Hart, members of the Board. I want to remind you all of why we are having these hearings in the first place. On May 25th of this year, The World Watch for 8 minutes and 46 seconds as Officer Derek Chauvin held his knee on the neck of George Floyd with his hands in his pocket as George Floyd dead and pleaded for his life. Racism can never be dismantled when the oppressor is defensive and refuses to acknowledge and recognize it, and all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

Upon some of the efforts that have been made such as jail reduction, zero bail and meaningful diversion and urge continuance going forward, including felony diversion and expansion of restorative justices. For you all to call the hearing was bold and courageous. And now I call on each of you to continue to be bold and courageous. Remove your defensive mechanism and let's partner And break down and remove systemic racism and system of oppression.

I submit to you that we cannot continue with old systems that have been in place since the creation of our country, our county, our cities and communities. The time is now to end that. Excuse me. In being bold and courageous, we must continue to call for alternatives to jail for non-violent offenders including expansion of felony diversion, meaningful diversion. We must have transparency in criminal justice and I have submitted those demands to you.

We must reallocate some of the funds for remodeling the old jail into community-based programs, such as those mentioned by Public Defender McCougar and Dr. Gleghorn. And as Public Defender McCougar said, we must reimagine public safety. Punishment and jail are not the only tools in the toolbox, and we need to use those. We must invest in community resources such as mental health Substance abuse, homelessness and issues that do not require a non-response.

I thank you for your time and hope that you will all move forward and just really examine and look at what everyone has put before you. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:18:25 · ≈ 5:18 PM

We will now go to Christian Alonso to be followed by Dr. Mel Goldsmith. All righty, go ahead.

GuestChristian AlonsoDistrict AttorneyProposedself-stated4:18:46 · ≈ 5:18 PM

Good evening, members of the board. Thanks so much for your time. My name is Christian Alonso and I'm the president at the Santa Barbara Young Democrats. With all due respect to the sheriff and the district attorney we hear you frequently talk about the need for additional funds to get you more data analysis and staff to determine whether our community needs to adopt alternatives to incarceration. How is it that we citizens are supposed to have confidence in your ability to keep us safe and do your jobs effectively if you never seem to have the data you need to do it? We see your bloated budgets. What are you doing with them besides filling our jails and paying out overtime to do so? It's kind of insulting to the rest of us who have the data we need to understand what is unfolding at prisons across the country, and specifically to understand that the failures at Lompoc Federal Prison have resulted in needless deaths and suffering of the inmates and staff there.

The public understands that prisons are not closed systems and that they pose an imminent threat to our public health. We have the data we need to understand that enabling mass incarceration in our community hurts families Makes us less safe and adds strain to our local economy. We have the data we need to understand that incarceration, born out of a history of white supremacy, disproportionately affects people of color, poor people and people who are narrowly diverse. Today we heard the sheriff try to fearmonger by highlighting some of the worst crimes as if they are normal. We heard them describe an effective approach to policing that utilizes arrests at the last resort as they quote deflation of normal arrest numbers due to COVID-19 conditions but the public understands that you have reduced our daily Thank you, Mr.

Alonzo. Unfortunately we cannot get a hold of Dr. Mel Goldsmith so we are going to Nathan Contreras to be followed by Lorena Ortiz.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:20:51 · ≈ 5:20 PM

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CommentNathan Angel ContrerasProposedself-stated4:20:53 · ≈ 5:20 PM

right. Thank you. My name is Nathan Angel Contreras and I was about three years old when I was moved up to Santa Barbara County to Santa Maria from Long Beach and I've lived, I was raised here my whole life and I've been in and out of the system, been in the system actually since juvenile hall. I was 13 years old went into juvenile hall Graduated, went to County Jail and along the way I met a woman named Billy Jo who really impacted my life. And she's helped me through a lot of dark times.

I know this is a meeting about race equality and stuff like that. And I just want to let you know that programs like Billy Joe taken from someone who's been there programs like Billy Joe's Freedom for Youth Really do help, they do make an impact. And there's just a lot of things that I could say but I only have two minutes and Freedom for Youth has really given me public speaking skills. It's just helped me in so many ways and county jail it's not gonna help people being locked up isn't going to help people What you need is programs on the outs that actually make a difference, that actually get to know someone. You don't get to know someone locked up in a jail cell. You're just serving your time.

Anyone could do time. But when you give someone skills, that's what really matters. That's what really makes a difference. You get the kids while they're young and you help them You get to know them on a personal basis, not on a guard-to-inmate basis. That's not going to help. Locking people up isn't going to help anyone. Take it from someone who has been locked up. I spent time away from my own son locked up and it's... Man!

Anyone could do time but to teach someone skills that's gonna help them for the rest of their lives That's what really matters. And you know, I hope you guys take into consideration all the things that people have to go through to be able to make a living, to help their families.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:23:29 · ≈ 5:23 PM

Thank you, Nathan. That is your time. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:23:31 · ≈ 5:23 PM

All right. Thank you. Thank you Mr Contreras.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:23:36 · ≈ 5:23 PM

We will now go to Lorena Ortiz to be followed by Michael Lopez. Alrighty, go ahead.

CommentLorena OrtizProposedself-stated4:23:58 · ≈ 5:23 PM

Hello, thank you for being... For inviting me to be part of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. My name is Lorena Ortiz. I was born and raised in Santa Barbara. I'm also the ASG President at Oxnard College. My personal experience is by having family members in a juvenile system and in a state prison system. It's extremely imperative for these individuals to have community-based organizations to help them transition back into society. Not just for these individuals, but for their families who also need the proper support and understanding of what these individuals experienced while they were incarcerated. Freedom For Youth, El Centro, and Healing Justice for Santa Barbara is where the money should be allocated. These organizations not only respond more effectively in the system but can prevent people from entering the system in the first place.

Having been myself part of the CPS system, my four children were removed from me and from my custody. And have not been part of...and are not part of the statistic because of the involvement with Freedom for Youth who have guided them and supported them. And now two of them have gone to college. All diversions discussed today are led by law enforcement. How can programs intended to keep people out of the justice system be led by law enforcement? My kids never trusted the system or people from the system, social workers or the police because they felt that the law enforcement did worse than anything than provide them with help to feel safe.

The police officers and social workers will not be at their graduation. It's these people from Freedom for Youth that will be there to support them and congratulate them for helping them be not a suspect but somebody in the future. Thank you for letting me share.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:25:49 · ≈ 5:25 PM

Thank you, Ms. Ortiz.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:25:52 · ≈ 5:25 PM

Fortunately we could not get a hold of Michael so we will be going to Jordy Sanchez to be followed by Megan Newsome. Unfortunately Jordy hung up, so we will attempt Megan Newsom to be followed by Lauren Mindell. Unfortunately we are unable to get a hold of Megan, but Lauren Mindell is on the line. And we will go to Lauren Mindell to be followed by Marisa Sullivan.

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GuestLoren MandelSheriffProposedself-stated4:27:30 · ≈ 5:27 PM

Hello, my name is Loren Mandel and I am a Santa Barbara County resident. This Sheriff's Office has ruined trust with our community by pushing for more jails, by pushing for an expanded gang injunction, and for collaborating with ICE. In 2017 the United Nations Human Rights Council found ICE to be in violation of international law by violating human rights. This decision was reaffirmed in 2019 when the head of the UN Human Rights Council determined that ICE is holding people in inhumane conditions. If we were to judge this Sheriff's Department, the way the Sheriff's Department judges people of color, young people of color, in economically disadvantaged neighborhoods, the way that it works under a gang injunction We would be able to hold the Sheriff's Department accountable for the actions of ICE.

Under Senate Bill 54, the Sheriff's Department does not have to collaborate with ICE. It does so by choice. Following this logic we could ask the task force that handles human rights violations and war crimes ironically under the umbrella of ICE To remove its parent organization from our county, from our state and from our country as is its mission to remove those who violate human rights from the United States.

In light of this we should like defunding the Sheriff's Department would be a very light sentence. We should hold the Sheriff's Department accountable for the 1,200 allegations of sexual assault that occurred in ICE detention centers between 2010 and 2017. Now these numbers come from Homeland Security. Of those 1,200 allegations 59% were against ICE officers and only 43 were investigated. Clearly internal investigations do not work.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:29:51 · ≈ 5:29 PM

Thank you Lauren. That is your time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:29:54 · ≈ 5:29 PM

Thank you. Bye. Thank you, Mr Mendel.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:29:58 · ≈ 5:29 PM

We will now go to Marisa Sullivan to be followed by Alicia Cordero. All righty, you can go ahead.

CommentMarisa SullivanProposedself-stated4:30:20 · ≈ 5:30 PM

My name is Marisa Sullivan, and I have the honor of serving as tribal chair for the Coastal Band of the Chumash Nation. We're a sovereign nation comprised of indigenous people with a strong long-held bond with this land. I've joined you today in what is actually a government to government action. As a reminder that while there are many Chumash voices in this area that you may have already consulted with about this particular matter As tribal chair of the Coastal Band, it is my responsibility to represent and to share the information that I've learned today with the rest of my band. I commend the board for taking the time to address the removal of the plaque located at the Santa Barbara Courthouse. This is a chance for you to listen to the voices of today that represent the voices of our shared past.

Going forward, I would encourage you to be certain you're consulting with members of the Chumash community That can provide you with a more balanced

CommentMaureen EarlesProposedself-stated4:31:19 · ≈ 5:31 PM

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CommentMarisa SullivanProposedself-stated4:31:20 · ≈ 5:31 PM

be certain, you also consult with our brothers and sisters in the black community. Their voices need to be heard. Space should be held for them as well. We have members of the coastal community now that will be providing you with further points to consider to help you all understand why this is worth your time because you do have an opportunity here and a challenge as well. Thank you. May you all stay well.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:31:49 · ≈ 5:31 PM

Thank you, Miss Sullivan.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:31:53 · ≈ 5:31 PM

We will now go to Alicia Cordero to be followed by Louie.

PresenterLori Goodman I'mthe Isla Vista Youth ProjectProposedself-stated4:32:08 · ≈ 5:32 PM

Alrighty, go ahead, Alicia.

CommentAlicia CorderoProposedself-stated4:32:09 · ≈ 5:32 PM

Thanks. My name is Alicia Cordero. I'm an enrolled member of the Coastal Band of the Chumash Nation I'm speaking today not only as a Chumash person but also as a defendant of the first soldiers and settler colonists referenced in the Santa Barbara Courthouse Monument. The plaques on this rock are not only offensive, but they're also incorrect. The vast majority of settlers on the expedition were mixed-race brown and black people. This is all part of a historic record and these facts are not under dispute by any historians.

It is somewhat bizarre that this rock represents the first settlers as white. This erasure of blackness and brownness says more about our community's dominant narrative than it does about who we actually are. The plaque honoring my ancestors as the first white people is a lie. They weren't considered white in the 1700s, and they wouldn't be considered white today. So why is it there?

Concern has often expressed that both sides need to be heard. In this case, the Chumash community actually represents both sides. We are not only the area's first people, we are also living descendants of the area's first settler colonists. It is difficult to carry ancestry from the oppressor and the oppressed but we do not shy away from being honest about our complex history. We do not hide the crimes of our ancestors and we do not erase the fact that they themselves were colonized peoples of color. It is not anti-racist to hide evidence of systemic racism. It can be uncomfortable but we need to face this together for community healing We don't want the immediate erasure of these plaques at the expense of taking time to hear from the diverse peoples who have been affected by this toxic narrative.

Our communities have already endured this monument for nearly 100 years, we have time to do this right. This plaque tells damaging lies about our ancestors and does not honor anyone. It does however present an incredible opportunity for truth and reconciliation regarding the impact of ongoing settler colonialism in our area. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:34:07 · ≈ 5:34 PM

Thank you, Miss Cordero.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:34:10 · ≈ 5:34 PM

We will now go to Louis to be followed by Mia Lopez. Already go ahead.

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CommentDr White BearProposedself-stated4:34:32 · ≈ 5:34 PM

Doctor Louie White Bearer Hello. My name is Dr White Bear, and I am a member of the Coastal Band of the Chumash Nation. Chair Hart and members of the Board, I greet you in our language as a reminder of our continued presence as coastal Chumash people through those various waves of settler colonialism we have endured. I'm here today to speak on the importance of removing the colonial plaques that celebrate a false narrative of Santa Barbara.

There is great significance in the ways in which histories are told. They create a foundational narrative from which we all understand who we are, as well as the histories of these lands on which we live. To create a master narrative of the histories of Santa Barbara that is based on whiteness not only erases the original people of Santa Barbara, it erases indigenous and black people that migrated north or part of these histories as well.

Including our voices, stories and connections to the community now called Santa Barbara is critical to not only counter the erasure these plaques represent but for all community members to celebrate our shared histories. Our stories are our histories as part of colonial processes, our stories are minimized and challenged on a basis of absolute truth. This is a harmful process that replaces our experiences and histories with a dominant story that celebrates this erasure As part of public spaces, the plaques are representing an imagined history of Santa Barbara that continues to misrepresent the community. Public spaces can be powerful in creating awareness and in this case, the story presented is damaging to all community members.

It is up to us to reclaim the narratives and remember that Coastal Chumash lands will always be Coastal Chumash lands. It is a responsibility of all of us to stand for truth and for the healing our communities so desperately need. Removing these plaques is a step towards these efforts. Thank you for your time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:36:33 · ≈ 5:36 PM

Thank you for your comments.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:36:36 · ≈ 5:36 PM

We will now go to Mia Lopez, to be followed by Jeannie Sparks. All righty, go ahead Mia.

CommentMia LopezProposedself-stated4:36:57 · ≈ 5:36 PM

Thank you so much. Hello, my name is Mia Lopez. I am a enrolled member of the Coastal Band of the Chumash Nation and employed at the Wichita Foundation, a Chumash-led nonprofit. I would like to thank Dr. Williams and his office for putting us in the loop of this important

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed4:37:26 · ≈ 5:37 PM

conversation regarding the removal of the plaque.

CommentMia LopezProposedself-stated4:37:34 · ≈ 5:37 PM

This is something that I think it's really important to do at this time, especially but should have been done a long time ago and I think that by putting our voices into the conversation we can help create a more unified educational way to present this. If this is something that you think you need to do quickly, may we suggest that a temporary signage is put in place stating that you are working to create a suitable replacement and taking the time to come together with the local community to create a ceremony Open to the public that will be an educational, unifying and healing event for all of our community honoring our history and cultural diversity. This is an opportunity to create change as well as uphold and put into action the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors' mission of providing quality public services to the people in response to their need for a healthy, safe and prosperous environment by providing this opportunity of sharing history and culture It gives our community the opportunity to heal by being seen and having their voices heard, and creates a place of safety and visibility, and promotes prosperous environment by reflecting the diversity of this area.

I want to point out that we have waited as public comment when in fact we should have been included Through our government to government discussions. And I hope that we can move forward in a better relationship and work to provide good educational opportunity and unity for our community. Thank you so much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:39:39 · ≈ 5:39 PM

Thank you, Miss Lopez.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:39:42 · ≈ 5:39 PM

We will now go to Jeannie Sparks to be followed by Sarah Cunningham.

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PresenterJeanne SparksSanta Barbara County Action NetworkProposedself-stated4:40:02 · ≈ 5:40 PM

Good afternoon Chair Harden, Supervisors. I'm Jeanne Sparks, Associate Director of Santa Barbara County Action Network. Executive Director Ken Huff and I decided to go out on what we think is a strong limb let's say and express SBCAN support for the demands and calls to action in the NAACP's June 4th communication to your board. The SBCAN Board has not yet reviewed and endorsed this specific request on that list but we are confident that they will at their next meeting.

We've also read and agree with the written comments by Vicki Bloom and Richard Solomon. While there are many good topics in the staff report, it is disappointing that the proposal for a standing Citizens Review Board is not included for discussion. Thank you for your consideration.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:40:46 · ≈ 5:40 PM

Thank you Ms. Sparks.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:40:50 · ≈ 5:40 PM

Unfortunately we're unable to get ahold of Sarah Cunningham so we will go to Spencer Brant to be followed by Erin Jones.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed4:41:20 · ≈ 5:41 PM

Good evening, Chair Hart and Board of Supervisors. Thank you for allowing me to speak today. You know we've had some conversation today about the phrase diversion to where but I submit that there is no diversion needed at all if there's no arrest made to begin with. The new report shows this is possible with the increasing use of citations instead of arrests and the increased reluctance to arrest people to begin with and that's a good start But I want to strongly echo other comments made by previous speakers that it's shameful that the word race is only mentioned once in the entire mapping report. And there is no data on how racial disparities have been affected by those COVID-induced justice system changes in their report.

I would ask all of the Justice Partner leaders a simple question, why? We are supposed to be hearing about equity today But rather, we heard fear mongering about recidivism that is simply not borne out by the data presented in the report. And frankly, that speech from the sheriff was pretty ridiculous. I feel just as safe in my community and my neighborhood as I did before the pandemic began. And when I talked to my neighbors, they told me the same thing. So we need to think about which of these changes we can continue to keep in a post-pandemic world and the burden of proof That we should return to the old normal, should be borne by the justice partners and we should continue to default with the things that we have these changes we have in place.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:42:51 · ≈ 5:42 PM

Thank you Mr Brandt.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:42:53 · ≈ 5:42 PM

We will now go to Aaron Jones to be followed by Matt Lowe. Go ahead.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed4:43:12 · ≈ 5:43 PM

Thank you, good afternoon everyone thank you for holding this very important discussion I wanted to first acknowledge and support the comments by I think everybody that's called in today but particularly also the comments by Public Defender McCougar, Winnieson Moten of course some others like Judge Eskin and Chelsea Lancaster we know that incarceration disproportionately impacts black and brown communities now we have an opportunity to do something about it We would like, in fact we demand more community-based programs and alternatives to incarceration. Also as has been stated the you know this COVID reality has demonstrated that we actually can and should do more to decrease the prison population and have more community based solutions that do not involve engagement with the criminal justice system.

This is now the time to be courageous in fact it's the time to be audacious and although there may be A conversation of challenges about what you as the Board of Supervisors can and cannot do. I think you need to think about it in terms of really doing the impossible like the previous speaker who spoke to the Nelson Mandela quote. I wanted to respond to a couple things that were said earlier, particularly Mr. Malekian who seemed to have some sort of reticence towards restorative justice. I'm glad that Supervisor Hartman brought that forward.

However, that is actually proven and we need to do more of that, more efforts around engaging the community and giving people opportunities to heal and to do better. I also want to respond to some things that the Sheriff says particularly with regards to the Community Resource Deputies which he out hailed as As a success, however, Beth's particular position as it relates to Isla Vista is consistently every year up for a chopping block on when the budget comes up. So I really question the validity or the authority or the sentiment behind it.

Sheriff Brown also pointed to specific instances that seem to be like scare tactics which may or may not be true but what we're talking about here is systemic injustice. What we're talking about here is a complete structural re-evaluation, reorganization and assessment of an acknowledgement of the truth. And part of that truth is that white supremacy is indebted is deeply embedded within law enforcement both here and across the nation. I think we need to also question you know the hypocrisy of saying that crime rates are low but yet the sheriff also said that the crime rates are likely to go up and I'm not sure how he could make that particular correlation We know that crime rates are specifically related to health and wellness for the livelihood of individuals, our economic security.

And those are the root causes that we need to address. And you know given Sheriff's comments with regards to zero bail in Prop 47 it really sounds like he wants crime to increase so I'm sure he doesn't and may have misspoken but in my ears that's what it sounds like. And to speak about the slight uptick in repeat offenders, there was an LA Times article just the other day about it. That slight uptick is like less than a percentage and I think we need to give opportunities and time for these community-based decisions to be able to take effect because we haven't really had the time to properly assess and evaluate it. I support everything that's been said and remove the damn plaques. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:46:41 · ≈ 5:46 PM

Thank You Mr. Jones

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:46:43 · ≈ 5:46 PM

We will now go to Matt Lowe to be followed by Janet Blevins. Hi Chair

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed4:47:06 · ≈ 5:47 PM

Hart and Board of Supervisors, thank you for holding this meeting today and thank Dr. Glacorn and Ms. Sims, and the public defender leader whose name I'm forgetting at the moment because without you today a thorough conversation about race would not have happened today. And thank you to the people of Santa Barbara County who showed up today to continue this conversation on race. I am a restorative justice practitioner and while I hear the positive reflections on restorative justice, I'm not seeing the application in our community by our district attorney's office, by our sheriffs By our police department and by our community organizations.

I would like to see a more thorough funding source go towards restorative justice programs, and what it looks like to implement restorative justice is completely different than criminal justice or criminal justice system is defined by doing the time for the crime while restorative justice is defined by healing for the harm that has taken place Restorative justice has a 90% success rate, whereas our current criminal justice system has a 30% success rate. Success is measured off of recidivism.

And so I urge you to really hear the voices of people today and what we are saying that works. We say what we want and we have the data in the experiences to back it up. The data is in our voices. The data is in our freedoms we want and the healing that we want for our community So we urge you to listen to this data today. I have a personal experience with the district attorney who did not, or who does not support the restorative justice. I asked if it was something that they would support and they said I will lose my rights for healing and justice to take place. And so they do not have a process in the diversion programs in which that are spoken of are not thoroughly funded. And so we need to have programs that are Funded and thoroughly reinforced by our cities and county.

District Dudley said she wants a nonprofit organization to focus on diversion program in our community. Well, there was one in the city and our white philanthropy organizations decided to defund it. And so we need to reinforce the notion that when we talk about diversion that is not the criminal justice programs that we already have in place Thank you, Mr Lowe.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:50:02 · ≈ 5:50 PM

We will now go to Janet Blevins, to be followed by Sarah Cunningham.

PresenterLori Goodman I'mthe Isla Vista Youth ProjectProposedself-stated4:50:18 · ≈ 5:50 PM

All righty, go ahead.

CommentJanet BlevinsProposedself-stated4:50:21 · ≈ 5:50 PM

Hello Supervisors. Thank you Chair Hart. My name is Janet Blevins. I am a resident of Lompoc. I would like to say that I appreciate very much That you are devoting all of this time to, um, a very, very important topic. Um, I have a question that I would like for, I know I won't get an answer now, but I would like an answer in the future and I'm wondering if the percentages of people of color in jail correspond to their percentage of the entire County population.

And I would imagine that it's. That there are many more black and brown people in jail than the percentage that they represent in the population, so that it's more a matter of poverty being in jail. I also wonder if any statistics are looked at in terms of when people first come in contact with the criminal justice system? Can these kids read and write Having been a teacher, I know that that is a problem for many people who end up in the criminal justice system and if there are ways for them to learn to read and write after they become incarcerated.

Again, I really appreciate all that you're doing. I would also like to see separation of the coroner's office from the sheriff's office. It doesn't make sense to me that the sheriff investigates any deaths that might occur His officers, and I guess I'll leave it there. Also now one more thing, a review board, a standing citizen review board for the Sheriff's Department.

Thank you to the probation department and all of the people who handle all of this. I appreciate the work that you all do. Thanks so much stay safe.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:52:31 · ≈ 5:52 PM

Thank you, Ms. Blevins.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:52:33 · ≈ 5:52 PM

We will now go to Sarah Cunningham to be followed by George Kaufman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 23Proposed4:52:50 · ≈ 5:52 PM

Thank you. Hello to the board. This is Sarah Cunningham. I'm calling today to speak in support of the demands raised by Healing Justice Black Lives Matter. I am particularly heartened to see that, you know, the silver lining of COVID is that we see indeed it is possible to reduce incarceration and we should take this as a model, as an opportunity to reimagine the entire justice system.

I also want to call on I hear, for example, Supervisor Williams say earlier that the sheriff is in some ways out of your jurisdiction. But you do hold the purse strings and as the holders of the purse strings, you can demand that the money is used differently. Already our law enforcement is overfunded compared to every other service which is a huge reflection of what our society values. And our budget should reflect what we value, and we value restorative justice. We value community. We value our children, right? So we should move the money away from incarceration and into a restorative justice program.

You can do that as the Board of Supervisors, as the holders of the purse string. It needs to be taken out of the justice system, it needs to be taken out of law enforcement and given to organizations like Freedom for Youth, like Healing Justice Black Lives Matter, like El Centro which are connected to the community that can actually do the restorative work that we need so desperately. So I'm calling on you as the supervisors, as the holders of the purse strings to move the money from our law enforcement into communities organizations that can do this important work. I'm also calling you as the holders of the money to withhold the money until there is an independent civilian review board and also until there are enforced de-escalation policies.

Again, you as the holders of the purse strings can do this so thank you. I see the rest of my time.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:54:53 · ≈ 5:54 PM

Thank you Ms. Cunningham

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:54:56 · ≈ 5:54 PM

We will now go to George Kaufman to be followed by Lauren Gartrell All righty, George you can go ahead with your comments.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed4:55:25 · ≈ 5:55 PM

Good afternoon I have just a couple of comments on two of the issues that came up during the presentation today one is something that's actually working what works in diversion and how can we do more of it? And the second is to answer try to address that question of what to divert to So on the first issue, I just heard last month that the three co-response teams at the Sheriff's Department has currently are handling somewhat more than half the crisis calls from mental health crises.

In the three month period they talked about only having to arrest in any given month six people at one time, three people a second month and two people the third month when Out of about 150 crisis calls a month, that is a tremendous result compared to what was happening before the implementation of these teams. So the combination of de-escalation and having the mental health worker there it works so we need to do more of that. The second issue diverted to what?

Two things one both of them were alluded to one is housing Person can't work on their recovery if they don't have a roof on their head. The second thing is effective treatment. The problem is that a lot of the folks that you're getting through, that are being diverted from the criminal justice system will not accept treatment effectively so we need a locked crisis stabilization unit. It's not going to work unless we can keep the person in treatment. The second phase of that then is chronic treatment And there we already have evidence-based practices that we know that work.

Assertive outpatient treatment is one of them, and the second is assertive community treatment teams. If we're really going to address this issue, we're going to have to spend more assets on those three programs—housing, ACT, AOT. Thank you very much for your time.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:57:35 · ≈ 5:57 PM

We will now go to Lauren Gartrell to be followed by Michaela Rivasio, who is our final speaker.

CommentMaureen EarlesProposedself-stated4:57:55 · ≈ 5:57 PM

All righty,

GuestLauren GartrellPublic DefenderProposedself-stated4:57:56 · ≈ 5:57 PM

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CommentMaureen EarlesProposedself-stated4:57:56 · ≈ 5:57 PM

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GuestLauren GartrellPublic DefenderProposedself-stated4:57:58 · ≈ 5:57 PM

Good evening Board of Supervisors, Chair Hart. My name is Lauren Gartrell and in my professional life I'm a Deputy Public Defender here in Santa Barbara County. However, I call on today as a private concerned taxpaying citizen. Thank you for giving me time to speak. I want to address a few points that were raised that I find a bit upsetting. First, Supervisor Adams, I hope your friend or family is okay. However, I do want to address the comment that was made earlier by you. You stated that you are not seeing results for those working with behavioral wellness. That you want to see how people are coming in with a level of distress and know specifically how we're reducing it in want numbers. And as Dr. Gleghorn stated, B-Well provides those numbers twice a year but it wasn't the data that you wanted.

You wanted specific outcomes. People are not specific outcome people are sons and daughters wives and husbands brothers and sisters. And I understand the importance of data and I understand the importance of numbers but as Supervisor Williams pointed out sometimes it isn't as easy putting a number on it. What is success? How do we diagnose and measure that?

Someone that came in with a 10 may leave with a six after being incarcerated, and still need lifetime support. We need to expand how we view success for those with severe and persistent mental illness, not limit it to a number. I see B-Wells work so hard with our community and our shelters and aid agencies offered here but there is a disconnect. How is someone who is houseless, who's struggling with mental illness supposed to get these appointments with B-Well? So many of our shelters are many bus routes away, resulting in multiple transfers and hours of long travel with all of their belongings in bags. We say we have services but access to them is over half the battle for our clients.

Why is B-Well removed from the communities? So many of our houseless community members are down by Speed Street, down by the beach yet the services are so far removed from where they are. Please consider adding more community clinics where houseless mentally ill members can meet up with their doctors and providers Especially now with COVID, we have available community centers, church and temple rec rooms that are not being utilized that could be opened up for community mental health clinics. We already have these but on a very small scale. Please consider expanding them.

I implore the Board of Supervisors to request information on the sanitation conditions in our jail. Better yet why not go visit without advance notice? See what the kitchen looks like. See how the cells are tested. Inmates should not be cooking food while awaiting COVID tests They should not be working in the laundry room while awaiting COVID tests. This perpetuates the spread of COVID in our jail, further harming those stuck in small dirty confined spaces.

Sheriff Brown do we have a full-time doctor to help those in custody who are sick injured or mentally ill? How about instead of hiring more custodial staff we consider hiring full time doctors and nurses to care for those in custody when they release their...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed5:01:00 · ≈ 6:01 PM

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:01:00 · ≈ 6:01 PM

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:01:02 · ≈ 6:01 PM

Thank you Miss Gartrell.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:01:04 · ≈ 6:01 PM

And Chair Hart, members of the board we unfortunately could not get a hold of Michaela so that was our final speaker.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:01:09 · ≈ 6:01 PM

Well thank you for everyone who took time to participate in this hearing today. We appreciate your comments and your compassion and interest in this subject. The matter is to the Board. Supervisor I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed5:01:30 · ≈ 6:01 PM

was going to be brave enough to be the first but you looked, your vision bored in on me enough to start. We have a very big to-do list on this. Erase systemic racism in our criminal justice system. Then we have a enormous to-do list, and I just want people to understand that we rarely have a list of recommendations that is two or three pages long that we adopt. We usually, it's recommendations A through E, right?

It's this long, right? Occasionally when it's a complicated land use. Program. It's this law and the recommendations that staff brought us is at least 2 pages of There are some things that are not on those, that recommendation. That does not mean that we should not look at them and does not mean that we shouldn't address them. But we have these recommendations and there's some really solid recommendations and we should adopt them. And I will explain maybe a little bit why on the jail.

I think some of the public comments are a lot more on the front end of the criminal justice system, and this is more of the back end of the criminal justice system. And I think the reason why we focus so much on it is because we actually have a lot of information about it, and we know a lot of the things that are wrong with it, and we have really clear solutions to some of it.

And, you know to me the really clear solutions are it's unacceptable to have 70-80% of the jail population be pretrial. Meaning people who are not yet convicted of anything a percentage of which are innocent And so we clearly have innocent people sitting in jail. If you have 70, 80% of your population be Pre-trial, which at least was the number before COVID.

Then you clearly have a lot of innocent or at least some innocent people amongst that population and that's unacceptable to me when the speed of the criminal justice system and where you have pre trial diversion as possibility. And when you should have risk based bail As opposed to monetary bail and I think this is really important to talk about it because it's going to be on the ballot on November.

Money based bail is fundamentally unfair to people who are poor. And so it's just so obvious to me, there's no mystery as to why more people who are low income, a lot of which happen to be black and brown, are in the criminal justice system in jail. There may be multiple reasons but one really clear reason is money bail. And we have an opportunity to turn aside the efforts to get rid of risk-based jail. There's an effort to go back to money bail on the ballot, and we should make sure it's in the dustbin of history because we can make progress as a society, racial progress, fiscal progress, as a society without money bail.

Thank you. The other thing we know is wrong, at least in my view, is that we don't have enough people on monitoring instead of jail. And I heard one speaker say that electric monitoring is humiliating but I think jail's a lot more humiliating. So it's a good alternative for some folks who are convicted and there are some fundamental elements Unfairness typically in such a system, right? You have indicators like.

Sometimes in these kind of systems of, do you own your house? You're less of a flight risk if you own your house. Well, property ownership for white people is a lot higher than property ownership for black and brown people. So I would view that criteria as fundamentally unjust from a racial perspective. And so I think we need to look at things like that Just sort of right in front of us, in addition to some of the things here.

I think it's also obvious to the public and to us that there is some levels of disagreement between us and our justice partners. We need to find some way to get on the same page on some of this stuff. And that's why I think in addition to these recommendations, we should add one more recommendation. Which is to direct the county executive office to work with the criminal justice agencies to develop performance measures related to reducing jail population and diverting people from the justice system in future budget planning documents.

And maybe I'd add in there that we need to start a felony diversion program. Obviously, the one other impediment to doing what public speakers have asked quickly is the constraint of our agreement with the state on the number of beds in the prison. And I'm not gonna talk about that because I'm hoping that another supervisor will, but I do think that I would support us moving forward with a legislative solution. And hopefully that tees off if I'm reading my tea leaves right.

Other comments? Thank you Supervisor Williams. The rocks and the plaques. They should go, but I do think it's obvious that when we have the people that are most directly affected by an injustice, we should have the participation of those folks. We do have clear communities that have documented lineal descent from the Chumash that were here and dramatically their Civilization and life dramatically destroyed by colonization.

There are also many of them, millennial descendants of the people who are erroneously mentioned as white in the plaques so they have two reasons to want those gone but they also want this to be an opportunity for a Something that reminds us of history and not just gets rid of history. So I think a good way of getting rid of it is to make a big deal about it, and have people gather.

And my hope is we will afford the coastal Chumash the opportunity to do that with the county in partnership with the county.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed5:09:51 · ≈ 6:09 PM

Supervisor Williams for the chair, I was just reminded and we should all be reminded. Whatever your board decides, or whatever input you want to give to staff is fine. It's just remember we can't have gatherings. Our own public health order prohibits gatherings. That was the last public health order that was put out and a gathering is defined as any grouping inside or out so we just have to be mindful of that and I think there are other ways to accomplish what you're trying to get at. And you have some very tech savvy board aides who are already thinking of ways.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:10:25 · ≈ 6:10 PM

Thank you for that. And that reminder, that's important. We do have a pandemic going on at the same time. Supervisor Hartman? Mr. Chair. Oh excuse me, Supervisor Adam?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed5:10:38 · ≈ 6:10 PM

Yeah if Ms. Hartman wants to go first, that's fine.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:10:43 · ≈ 6:10 PM

It's sort of an after-you-after-you kind of thing. Supervisor Adam why don't you go ahead.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed5:10:48 · ≈ 6:10 PM

Okay, I'll be the other side today. First of all, I think that these things are really cyclical. Someday we're gonna be back here people are going to be complaining about how much crime there is and you gotta remember that three strikes came from somewhere. And it was an answer to really high crime rates and people were complaining at that time. And so now, crime subsides a little bit and everybody wants to do something else.

And we'll do something else when that occurs. I just have to disagree with a couple of the characterizations that were made today, that the conditions at the jail are not inhumane. We have funded extra staff outside medical personnel and have oversight and review that did not exist prior to my tenure here. I know we've added all that stuff since I've been here.

And I want to disagree with the characterization that law enforcement is systemically racist Many of the people that are, if you look at the faces of our law enforcement staff, custody and patrol, both. You'll see all colors in there. So the idea that group of people is systemically racist I think it's really just laughable. As far as the electronic monitoring and the jail being humiliating, somebody might consider not committing a crime.

And then they don't have to deal with either of them. I also want to talk about removing these plaques and rocks and anything else that are county assets. The only groups of people or governments that seem to tear down these kind of things instead of contextualize them, Like the Bolsheviks and the Cultural Revolution in China, and the Taliban are three that leap to mind. And we know that they didn't end well or haven't ended well for the people that they were underneath so I'm not looking forward Having the discussions over the next things that have to go, because you know this isn't the end of that.

We're going to find other things that the mob thinks needs to go and I'm not looking forward to the end of that story.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:13:51 · ≈ 6:13 PM

Thank you Supervisor Adam. Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.855:13:57 · ≈ 6:13 PM

Thank you. I'm looking at my notes from our first marathon session, looking at this issue of racial and ethnic justice and the first thing that I had was a focus on arts and culture and I think the issue of the monuments kind of fits within that but if we talk about the second item that is on our We're asked to receive and file the report that we have from Dr. Malecki, and then we also report on Existing racial equity and diversity initiatives. So I think it's very important that we, I would like to see some money going to our arts and culture department in the county.

They have had a tremendous impact in North County that I never saw in the last few years that I'd never seen before. And I'd like to see that continue so And I think there's more that can be done. I know the city of Santa Barbara has devoted some money to that beyond Juneteenth, a broader...not that that isn't important, it's very important but I would like to see it broadened for Not just black culture, but people of color. The second was to re-envision public safety and we focused largely on reducing the jail population.

That I think is largely because we see a tremendous opportunity because we want to build on what we've learned in the COVID pandemic. But I don't see as much here as I'd like to see on restorative justice and working with broader community partners for how people can rebalance the equation, how people can do community service. As Dr. Melekian noted in Providence, they're doing a lot. We know a lot about this and it has much broader potential to be satisfying to victims as well as perpetrators, as well as the community itself. So and I think one of the principles for me is how do we re-envision public safety in a way that the community it's the perpetrators, victims and the community play a larger role in safety?

And so This is, I think restorative justice is an important way that we can begin to do that. And then the final area that we haven't addressed and that is a much more complicated area is really racism is a public health crisis. What does that mean? It really means poverty and all that goes with it. At some point we need to look at that in a more systematic way, but government is a blunt instrument. You can't do everything at once. We do have an opportunity here. I don't think this is going to be just cyclical. I think we've come to a place where it really is a day of reckoning and we have an opportunity to make some transformative changes.

And so we're starting with the criminal justice arts and culture, and what we're doing internally in the county. I left that one out. And I'm a big fan of Henry Ventura and some of the changes that we're already seeing. I don't believe he has enough resources but he's also as noted working with companies based in Santa Barbara, not just with the county. And so we do have an opportunity to amplify some of the messages about cultural sensitivity that I think are you know it really is a culture change that we need how we think.

So those are some of the things that haven't been fully incorporated into how we think about funding things going forward but And then my final point is a small one, but the Criminal Justice Data Committee. You can't manage it if you don't have the information. And I'm glad that we're getting it, but I do think it would be helpful if we could begin to bring in the city police chiefs. Not just Santa Barbara but Santa Maria and Lompoc because again it's a culture change and how we gather and share information and how we interpret that is important.

The final thing I wanted to mention is we do have the KPMG study coming forward. I've said this before, I'll say it again, it's really hard for me to evaluate programs without having benchmarks. We certainly learned that in the library looking at what we do compared to others. We don't have those benchmarks with our Sheriff's Department even understanding how many People in our jail are there with a connection to behavioral wellness. It's 33% nationwide, it's 58% here. Okay that generates some questions. We've never had that and I think we're going to start getting some of it from the KPMG study.

I have heard that they have not been able to get all the data they would like to from the sheriff. I think we need to start asking for that, demanding that, saying if you want a budget, if you want an analyst or this, that, or the other, we need more transparency and more visibility. The community's demanding it, and we don't even have it here at the board, and that's our job. So if they haven't given the information to KPMG, then the question is why?

And we need to start stepping up and asking for that. So I guess those are my comments. It's been a long day.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:20:41 · ≈ 6:20 PM

Well thank you for those comments and thank you for everybody's patience. I want to thank all the people who participated. The voices of black community members and their allies because that is there. Their voices are critical in advancing racial justice in our county. I want to thank the CEO's office, human resources first five and the other county departments that are working on these equity issues.

Pay particular attention to Dr. Melekian and his work with the criminal justice leaders for putting serious thought into how we can keep our community safe in a way that promotes racial equity. All of us can agree that we want to live in a community that is equitable, healthy and safe. At this time, we have a once-in-a-generation opportunity to reimagine the ways in which we respond to harm that is caused in our community.

The significant reduction in the jail population that's occurred in response to COVID-19 is starting to demonstrate our county's ability to reduce incarceration without compromising public safety. Thousands of Santa Barbara County residents have called on us to confront structural racism. We can take steps to eliminate the disparate adverse impacts that our criminal justice system has on people of color, people living in poverty and people with mental illness.

This can be done by implementing additional community-based programs that promote accountability and healing. I received a note from a constituent that used the following analogy to express her feelings about our criminal justice system. I thought it was brilliant. She said, I keep thinking about a comparison between our justice system and the way my kids handle laundry.

My kids use the laundry basket as a way to deal with their clothing. If they need to clean up their room any and all clothes go in the dirty basket. It doesn't matter if an item needs to be folded or put into a drawer, put in the closet, fixed or repaired if there's damage or stain. Regardless of the need it just gets thrown in the dirty clothes basket for someone else, in this case her, to take care of.

She continues to say is it possible that we just throw people into the criminal justice system for someone else to deal with? Should we take more time to figure out what people really need And in the process, save them from just cycling through the system. I think this analogy perfectly express our challenge and the need to identify additional off ramps and alternatives to justice involvement in incarceration. We need to work harder and better to address the root causes of public safety issues in our community and determine when these issues can be resolved outside of the traditional criminal justice system.

We also need to remember that many people in our justice system are survivors of trauma and crime. We must better serve these people in a way that advances public safety and equity. Restorative justice options are often underutilized in our justice system. Restortive justice programs work to promote accountability in the aftermath of harm, empowering the person who committed harm to make amends with the community and avoid making the same mistakes in the future.

I'm encouraged by efforts to increase the use of restorative justice in our county. Understanding that our black and brown community members are overrepresented in our justice system points to the urgency of our efforts to advance racial equity. According to data from the Public Defender's Case Management System, roughly 75% of their clients that are currently in custody are people of color.

We know this is not acceptable. Much work needs to be done on the front end to invest in communities of color, to prevent disparities in access to child care, health care, housing and other vital needs. We also must work on the back end to reduce the disproportionate impact that our justice system has on communities of color. The actions identified in the Criminal Justice Mapping Report provide our justice agencies with good first steps to take in keeping our jail population low and implementing additional opportunities for diversion from our criminal justice system.

I'd like to ask our criminal justice agencies to identify performance measures related to reducing the jail population and increasing diversion from the criminal justice system, in the future budget planning documents. These performance measures can help track the success A promising new effort, such as the Prop 47 and AB 18 grant programs. The performance measures can also be used to track progress as new strategies are pursued.

Thanks again for everyone who's participated in today's meeting. To conclude my thoughts I'm inclined to agree with Mr. Jones who said remove the damn plaques but I also understand the point that Supervisor Williams is making and the members of The Coastal Band of the Chumash Nation who would like an educational and healing opportunity, an opportunity for truth and reconciliation. I would hope particularly in light of CEO Miyasato's comments about how we really can't have a gathering at this point in time that we can do something across digitally and get the plaques out as fast as possible. I think that is the place we need to go to demonstrate that we're concerned about that And want to resolve it as fast as possible. As Supervisor Williams said, there is a lot that we could be focusing in on and need to focus in on in time.

But I'm really encouraged that we are focusing in this space in regards to incarceration and what we can do collaboratively with our independently elected official partners to make progress now. To take the advantage of what we've achieved Over time, through a variety of programs and very urgently in response to COVID-19. And this is a unique opportunity that we need to take advantage of and we need to be bold. And we need our partners to be bold in this moment.

Supervisor Williams you have your last?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed5:26:50 · ≈ 6:26 PM

Well, Supervisor Hartman did... That was such a good keystone. I hate to even bring up anything but Supervisor Hartman did remind us about the data question and it's a little confusing. We want data. The Sheriff and the DA say they need positions to help get us the data and wasn't completely sure from your testimony is Doesn't getting data cost money or can we really just make them do it?

CommentCriminal Justice DataProposed5:27:29 · ≈ 6:27 PM

Supervisor Williams to the chair. When I referred to the lack of funds and you heard Chief Heitman talk about that, the Criminal Justice Data Committee, the board already funded a position for that. It's just that she has not been able to fill it so that the position is there. The sheriff and the DA, I think we're making separate requests I think we could look at that, but I think the Criminal Justice Data Committee would be the place to start to try to identify the needs.

I will say that I have found the Sheriff's custody staff to be extraordinarily responsive in terms of preparations for this report a lot of that data came from them. And Chief Wasilewski and Commander Sullivan and their team have really, really stepped up in several different arenas. So I think we could start with the Criminal Justice Data Committee. And I will also commit to sort of work through the 15 recommendations and figure out action steps to start to move them forward.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed5:28:41 · ≈ 6:28 PM

Chief Heitman, are you still listening? If she's there because I want to just make sure we set expectations about the data committee They work at it. The Data Committee is a very granular technical committee to look at the integration of data and Her staff is integral and so chief I'm could you just tell us what the data committee does that were all in the same place And that we're setting expectations appropriately

CommentTanya HeitmanProposedself-stated5:29:06 · ≈ 6:29 PM

Sure Chair Hartman, Supervisors. This is Ms. Sato. The CJDC or the Criminal Justice Data Committee has representatives from each of the departments. We have a representative that we consider the IT expert as well as a representative that would be considered more the programmatic expert that assists with issues out of that group. And what we've done is we've come up with the architecture to be able to ensure that we can compare, contrast, aggregate data from the various case management systems whether it's a jail management system, the court system or probation's case management system and now as I mentioned earlier, we're adding in the public defenders case management system and the DAs would be next This architecture behind the scenes is crucial to being able to really look at different decision points in the criminal justice system and understand not just, well what can the jail system tell us about it?

But what else do we know about this individual? Are they on probation? What are their risks or their needs because that's information that's in the case management system. What prior convictions do they have It really is very powerful to not only bring information forward, but it also can be used to streamline processes, business processes and ensure that we don't have duplicate data entry. That we're not all sitting at computers just doing data entry, but that we can push data from one system to the other. It really is a phenomenal opportunity. But as was mentioned, although there's a position funded We have been unable to fill it with an individual that can do the work that needs to be done.

So HR has worked with us to improve the recruitment, minimum qualification descriptions, the job responsibilities so that it's more descriptive of what we're looking for and attempting to recruit for it again. We also have though an individual by the name of Bruce Thomas that is a consultant that works with us on some of the larger issues. So the person that we're hiring for will be able to actually do the day-to-day work and do queries, build queries and be responsive to individual departments. And then Mr. Thomas also helps do some of the higher end kind of architectural work for the systems. And he's uniquely qualified because he's worked as a consultant on contract for both the courts, probation and the sheriffs already. So he knows our systems and then our IT manager is also very much in partnership with him.

So it has a lot of opportunity and capability and it may be that we need to add additional team members at some point but the next piece is really to build the already funded position And in terms of Supervisor Hartman's comments about KPMG, I am aware that KPMG is looking at the data piece within the criminal justice system in particular. But they have already met with my IT manager Mr. Kuo once already and specifically talked about the work of the CJDC and they intend to meet with him again. They have expressed a lot of interest in what that system is going to be capable of And I expect that it will be mentioned in their upcoming reports. I don't know the nature of their recommendations, but I know that they're already looking at the issue.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:32:59 · ≈ 6:32 PM

Thank you, Chief Heitman. I believe Sheriff Brown is on the line too and wanted to respond to Supervisor Hartman's comments. And while the sheriff is on the line Many of the public commenters spoke about the need for civilian review and the use of force policies within Sheriff's Department, and that is within the sheriff's jurisdiction. So perhaps he could add something to the discussion about those subjects as well.

CommentLorena OrtizProposed · by introduction5:33:26 · ≈ 6:33 PM

Thank you, Chair Hart. I'd be happy to. First of all, I wanted to just respond to Supervisor Hartman's comments in several areas. One was Indication that she had received information that KPMG had not received information from the Sheriff's Office. And that I do not believe to be true, I believe that they have received everything that they have asked for from us.

As you may or may not know, I have yet to see any kind of draft report or anything from KPMG. In fact, Communication from KPMG, other than the initial meeting that they had with us. So in terms of... I just wanted to clear that up, there's absolutely no basis to believe that we're not providing them with information that they have requested and certainly they have not communicated that to me at all if that were to be the case which I don't believe it is.

Secondly, Supervisor Hartman you mentioned Why do we have a 58% rate of mental illness in our jail when the national average is in the 30s, 33 or 36%. And the reality is that you're comparing an apple to an orange number. The 58% number that has been pretty consistent when we've gone and compared our jail populations over the years is for anyone who has ever received any service from our behavioral wellness department. That could be for mental health reasons, it could be for substance abuse reasons or it could be for both mental health and substance abuse co-occurring reasons.

And that is not an indication of who is currently actively mentally ill whereas that national average which is really a national estimate average really because there's no determinative way to determine how many people actually are actively mentally ill It is a very difficult number to get at. The one indicator that we do have that is consistent and that we can look at, is the number of inmates who are on psychotropic, receiving psychotropic medications for the possibility of mental illness but that is not an indicator in itself that would be exact as to who had the exact number of how many people were mentally ill Chair Hart, as far as your discussion, your question rather with respect to some of the comments that have been brought up calling for use of force policy changes or adjustments or a variety of other things.

It's very apparent that many of the callers really do not have a solid grasp about what our policies are And I would invite them to look and see what they are. Our policies, all of them are publicly posted on our website and there was mentioned for example of requiring a duty to intervene reporting any excessive use force to utilize or to consider the use of de-escalation tactics. All of those are mentioned in our policies And I think it's important to set the record straight that that is the case. With respect to some other, there are some other issues that we do disagree with some of the callers in terms of the need for a civilian review board. Relatively few law enforcement agencies and even fewer sheriff's offices have civilian review boards.

The reality is There's over 18,000 law enforcement agencies across the nation. And there are only about 150 of them that have a civilian review process of some type. They tend to be in larger cities rather than smaller agencies or in sheriff's offices. And there are several different types of civilian review processes Some of them are very costly. In fact, the one that's being called for to give a civilian review process subpoena powers is the most costly out of the various types of civilian review boards.

So as I say it, I just don't believe that it is necessary for our agency. We do not have a history of any allegations The type of systemic abuse or the type of lack of accountability that typically drives the requests for these types of review boards. And, um, the reason that there are very few of them, uh, of these civilian review boards are that typically people are not generally very happy even with the ones that they have across the country.

There's always allegations of who is on there to begin with. And are they really being objective about what You know, sort of proof is in the pudding. Is that I would call to everyone's attention is the fact that Minneapolis had not one but two types of civilian review boards and obviously with the turmoil that has occurred in that community with the lead into the tragic death of George Floyd and with the subsequent turmoil that has occurred there.

I think it's pretty proof positive that the civilian review boards are really not something that is a great idea. The other thing that I would say as people say, well there should be accountability that the sheriff you know should have to be accountable to someone and I would submit to you that the Office of Sheriff is far and away the most accountable law enforcement office that there is.

The sheriff is required to be elected directly by the people and to be reelected directly by the people. And the people can, and do hold sheriffs accountable in communities across our nation if there is a belief that they're not doing their job ethically or with integrity or with responsibility. So I would submit that that is the case and that there are many other mechanisms, not the least of which is the grand jury, the attorney general, other mechanisms that exist within our current structure that are there to hold sheriff's offices accountable. And with the funding situation being what it is, and particularly being as uncertain as it is in the future, I think it would be a big mistake to embark on something that would require an additional amount of money that would be considerable to look into this.

As far as the use of force Issues and policy that I mentioned earlier. Our policies are continuously being updated, and we welcome input. Indeed, we have changed our policies based on some input that has been given to us. And at the right time when it is time for people to really want to sit down and talk and have a discussion and not sort of shout at each other and not sort of you know, not having a reasonable conversation and to be able to reason with each other. My door is always open, and I think people know that we have a track record in the Sheriff's Office of meeting with people with our critics as well as with our supporters. And so I am happy to meet with anyone that would like to discuss this with me. And I will tell you that so far despite all of the emails, despite all of the letters that have gone by email as a result of obvious calls to action by Black Lives Matter and by the NAACP and others.

I have only received one actual outreach from one organization that would like to actually sit down and talk about something, and that's the NAACP. And I have responded to them and look forward to meeting and discussing issues with them in Thank

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:42:44 · ≈ 6:42 PM

you. Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.855:42:46 · ≈ 6:42 PM

Yeah, three things I want to say quickly. First it's my experience and not just with the sheriff or is across government that it's not just the data but it's the analysis and asking the questions and using that and that takes That takes a lot more. And I was surprised with Caltrans and CHP and others, they have lots of data but it's not really put together in a way that you can use it so I think that's kind of what I'm getting at.

The second thing is last time we had a session like this two days later we had a fire and I was evacuated and I was leading my three horses down And I encountered a sheriff's deputy who listened all day to all the complaints about deputies and sheriffs in law enforcement. And I said, I'm so glad to see you. This must be very demoralizing for many, You know, it is the laundry basket. It's all the problems that we don't solve elsewhere that come at the end and we expect law enforcement. And let me just give a small example. Many of the people who are saying we want this commissioner, we want better you know more reform they're the first ones at my email saying we've got to enforce with sheriff's deputies the mask ordinance You know, so we really have to think our own personal responsibility and some of our own roles in creating this kind of society and culture that we have.

We need to start figuring out how there can be more internal self-control in communities and people stepping up so that... And maybe better, certainly better policies by all of us so that we don't put so much in the laundry basket And I think it's important for us

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed5:44:46 · ≈ 6:44 PM

to be able to do that with all of us. Supervisor Williams. Well, that that is an excellent point. I'm going to make a motion but I just have to comment and agree with you on one portion of that is we've got to get on mass square. We've got to get decided to do it together voluntarily or at the sheriff's department to somehow be able to be everywhere all the time and get everyone to wear masks, then we might as well just hand over the entirety of the budget to the sheriff.

Because that's the only way that we're going to have enough people to enforce something like that. And I personally don't want to live in a situation where our first line Our sheriff's department, that's for things that obviously we should be able to accomplish with civilian enforcement or better yet with civility and taking care of each other. Of the matter at hand, I'll try to on my hand add a motion that will try to incorporate a number of these points that have been made.

One is the obvious approved recommendations. I move that we approve recommendations A through D and add a couple. The first addition would be to direct the CEO to support efforts of the district attorney and other justice partners to expand misdemeanor diversion opportunities and create a new felony diversion program, including through the use of restorative justice techniques or programs.

That we direct the CEO's office to work with our criminal justice agencies to develop performance measures as part of our budgetary authority related to, and these would be performance measures related to reducing the jail population and diverting people from the justice system. We ask our legislative delegation for relief from our bed mandate, which is Joan Hartman's idea not my idea but she didn't mention it so I needed to add that. And lastly to ask the CEO to return with The metrics and any resource requests necessary to obtain data and improve the speed of the discovery process and sharing thereof.

Motion's been made,

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:47:48 · ≈ 6:47 PM

I'll second the motion or-

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.855:47:57 · ≈ 6:47 PM

We still have money in the CEO's budget. I mean, I still have my arts and culture piece of it. Would you be willing to consider $50,000 to Arts & Culture for the entire county to do...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:48:16 · ≈ 6:48 PM

Mr. Pizzoni, you want

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed5:48:17 · ≈ 6:48 PM

to say something? Chair, I don't know that we're set up to actually move money today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed5:48:23 · ≈ 6:48 PM

Supervisors, you can provide direction and I misspoke when we talked about the equity fund. It's not a fund it's a set aside in 990 which means you already appropriated and as we said at the board hearings you can just give me direction with three votes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed5:48:37 · ≈ 6:48 PM

Then along with that last bullet to ask the CEO to return with any resource requests, I would say to return with any resource requests necessary to obtain the data. Implement these priorities in the previous parts of the motion and improve the speed of the discovery process sharing thereof and if possible the arts.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.855:49:07 · ≈ 6:49 PM

And I'll be willing to second. All

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:49:08 · ≈ 6:49 PM

right, there we go. Motion's been made and seconded. Is there any discussion to the motion? Mr. Guzzone you want to add something?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed5:49:14 · ≈ 6:49 PM

Mr Chair and supervisors, I know we're drawing this to a close but first I'd like to thank Supervisor Williams for the way he phrased his motion which is respectful of the independent authority of the other elected officials and justice partners. And then just for the public who may not be tracking this 1034 bed issue We're dealing with an issue that has been discussed at prior board meetings, and that is a condition of the county accepting the AB 900 Phase 2 funding for the Northern Branch Jail.

We were required to have a certain number of net new beds in the system, and that's what's being referred to today. And the idea being to seek legislative relief or some kind of relief from California Department of Corrections Thank you for that clarification. Any comments or questions or discussion before we have a roll call? Call for the question.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:50:22 · ≈ 6:50 PM

Chair Hart and members of the board as noted earlier, Supervisor Lavagnino has left so we will begin with Mr. Williams. Aye. Ms. Hartman? Aye. Mr. Adam?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed5:50:34 · ≈ 6:50 PM

Abstain.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:50:35 · ≈ 6:50 PM

Chair Hart? Aye. Motion passes 3 to 1 abstention and one absent.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:50:40 · ≈ 6:50 PM

Well thank you everyone for your incredible work today and your patience and we will now adjourn to Tuesday August 18th 2020 Good morning. Yeah.