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Good morning. I'll call the order, the August 24th 2021 meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. Madam Clerk please call the roll.
Roll call, called by Clerk of the Board
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The next item of business is approval of the minutes from the August 3rd, 2021 special meeting as well as the August 17th, 2021 regular meeting. Can I get a motion? Mr. Chair, I'll move approval.
Second.
Any discussion? Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion passes unanimously. Madam Clerk are there any announcements or changes to the agenda today?
Chair Nelson and members of the board, I just have a couple quick announcements this morning. I would like to remind the public that the Board of Supervisors meetings are being interpreted and broadcast live in Spanish. We are broadcasting our meetings in Spanish both for Cox Cable subscribers in South County as well as Comcast cable subscribers in North County. Members of the public can now view our meetings in Spanish by turning on the secondary audio programming also known as SAP or SAP under their language settings.
Lastly, I would like to remind the public who are participating in our meeting today of the board's updated methods of public participation. For the Board of Supervisors' methods of public participation and to provide public comment on general public comment or an item on the board's agenda please see page two of the board's agenda today. Members of the public can now attend meetings in person In both the Santa Maria board hearing room chambers, as well as the Santa Barbara board hearing room chambers. Please note on August 6th 2021 a new county health officer order went into effect requiring indoor mask usage. For anyone over the age of 2, regardless of vaccination status. If you attend the board meeting in person, you will be required to wear a face covering or mask at all times, regardless of vaccination status individuals that would like to provide verbal public comment virtually may do so via zoom by registering in advance via the link available on page 2.
After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing important information about joining the virtual meeting. Once the chair has announced the item you want to comment on please join the meeting with the information provided. You will be placed on mute until it is your turn to speak. The clerk will call you by name when removed from mute you will hear a notification that your line has been unmuted If you are using a touchtone phone, you may need to press star six to unmute yourself. Again if you're using a touchtone phone, you may need to press star six to unmute yourself. Each person may address the board for up to three minutes and this is at the discretion of the chair.
If you have any questions please contact the clerk of the board's office directly at area code 805-568-2240. Again if you have any questions regarding this process please contact the clerk of the board at 805-568-2240. Thank you and that concludes my announcements today.
Thank you, Madam Clerk.
Next item of business is the County Executive Officer's Report. CEO Miyasato do you have anything to report today?
Chair Nelson no report this morning.
All right, thank you.
The next item is the approval of the administrative agenda. I have items A-6 pulled by Supervisor Hartman and then I've requested A-9 and A-11 to be pulled. I believe just for comments are there any items pulled by the public?
Chair Nelson and members of the board we have no requests to speak on the administrative agenda but I do have one quick announcement on Administrative 9
Okay, we'll get that opportunity when we read that item in the record. So let's go ahead and
move to Item A-6.
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Chair Nelson and members of the board, Administrative Item Number 6 is from the District Attorney it is to consider recommendations regarding an agreement with Journal Technologies Inc for a case management system e prosecutor
And I pulled that item and I just wanted to congratulate the DA and her office. This is very exciting to be moving in this direction.
Thank you Supervisor Hartman, and we'll take that item with the totality of all the A items so thank you. Next item is I believe item A9 excuse me
Yeah, originally I had requested to pull A4 but I had conversations with staff yesterday and I'm comfortable with that. Thank you. All right. Thank you
Supervisor Lavenino
Chair Nelson and members of the Board, Administrative Item Number 9 is from Human Resources. It is to consider recommendations regarding the reappointment and employment contract for the County Executive Officer. And as required by Government Code Section 54953C3 during administrative agenda item number nine, the board is agendized to considered a new agreement for services for the county executive officer who would provide a new annual salary of about $309,193 effective August 25th 2021.
Right, thank you Madam Clerk and I pulled this item in part because over the weekend there was a social media post that called me out for this item despite the perception that the author has a wide audience or large influence. I got a single email from a constituent and I'd like to share my response as of now I'm planning on voting to approve Chief Executive Officer Mona Miyasato's contract extension Her new salary will be $309,000 not the $450,000 that was reported on Facebook. I agree that over $300,000 of taxpayer money is a lot but I believe it is appropriate for the limited market of people in California to have the skill set that Mona possesses.
Mona leads an organization of approximately 4,300 employees, 22 departments, countless service areas and districts with a combined budget in excess of $1.3 billion. Her pay is less than her peers throughout the state and less than many of the city managers and special district directors in our county who manage a fraction of the responsibilities. The raise we are giving her is 7%, which is a few percent above inflation and also as the recognition that she has often taken less than the cost of living adjustment over the last few years, as an example for the entire organization.
If we had a higher replacement for Mona, we would likely pay an HR recruiter as much or more than we were giving her in a raise, get someone less competent, and cost us more in annual salary and benefits. It is always difficult for me to approve large expenditures of taxpayer dollars and even more so when it's going to employ salaries. But in this case, I believe it's the most fiscally responsible decision I can make for my constituents.
The response I got from my constituent who was one of my favorites as she wrote back and says, I appreciate your honesty and probably would now agree glad to know the truth just like the fake news. And I'm always happy to be better informed by the source It is really easy in this day and age to chase likes and shares, or in this case donations by telling half the story.
In effect to degrade the people's trust in this board and promote oneself. This board will make mistakes and many of things that I will disagree with and will disappoint my constituents but I am confident that this item is not one of them or at least it shouldn't be. And for anyone who's concerned about a position I take or vote I make, my door is open and my cell phone is on. Thank you.
Is there any public comment on this item?
Chair Nelson and members of the board we have no request to speak from the public on this item.
Thank you, Mr. Chair and I was party to those emails as well and I can tell you that I have spent the last year worried to death that other counties would be successful in recruiting our CEO away from us for considerably more money and have practically begged Mona to stay if you just look at What a leader does and if you look at where we were in 2013. And where we are in 2021, not to mention first off the financial position that we're in completely different than we were in 2013 because of a number of the goals that she set for our board but also just I mean I look at how the board operates now compared from The camaraderie that she, as the leader of this county has brought into this room is exemplary. And I know many times I have folks in my district that tell me constantly that we should run the county like a business and I can promise you there is no CEO along the Central Coast that represents, that has 22 department heads responding to them with 4300 employees and a $1.3 billion budget that makes anywhere in the range of what MONA makes.
They're all considerably higher paid. I did a quick Google search and found that the average CEO in this area is about $800,000. I think that's even low so I have no problem with the sacrifices that MONA has made And this is one of the problems, and I remember encouraging her that when it was time for a raise to take it because when you don't take it. You know then it just compounds the problem of of of you know when when the day does come that needs to be done so.
I can't think of anybody better to be in this position she's guided us through innumerable disasters crises I think of all the money we spend in this county, I can't think of an expenditure that is a better return for the investment and return on the dollar than approving this contract. So I would like to move it.
All right, let's go ahead and move out with the entire items here but I also want to allow Supervisor Hart to speak.
Yeah, I just want to say that Mona is an outstanding leader who has just a really stellar statewide reputation everybody that I talked to in County and State Government We are really lucky to have her continuing to serve us and all the residents of Santa Barbara County. I just have nothing but deep respect and admiration for her personal commitment to public service, county government, the county family, and the tireless effort that she devotes to protecting the health and welfare and economy of the county of Santa Barbara.
I agree. Thank you, Supervisor Hartman.
Well, I just wanted to add that I think the colleagues who have spoken speak for all of us. We are lucky to have Mona Miyasato in Santa Barbara County on more ways than we can ever count up. So I share with Supervisor Lavinino and we're so lucky she stayed
Thank you. All right, Supervisor Williams.
You better get on this train Dawson.
I also think it's important to indicate the larger issues that as some of you have alluded to we are in the midst of a change in this organization to try to make this organization more responsive to the public More customer friendly, less siloed into fiefdoms and more acting with unity of purpose. And it's my belief that the largest factor that will go in to whether that change takes place is the employees themselves but the second most large factor is not who has been elected up here It is who sits in that chair.
And so I think there's a lot at stake, whether Mona stays or not and I hope the public understands that that is a real thing because these are people that are not household names in the community but the staff that execute the legislative priorities of the board They're not automatons, they're not all cut from exactly the same cloth. They're all individuals with different levels of skill, different levels of motivation and a different drive. And Mona's drive, skill and experience is exactly what we need for the challenges ahead.
Thank
you Supervisor
Williams
and I just also want to remind the public this job is not a 40-hour week job She occasionally leaves the county and sends us an email to let us know, but she does not stop being the CEO at any time during the day. And as everybody knows in this county with the amount of natural disasters we've had or crises over her tenure, you know she doesn't get paid overtime. She just shows up day after day and leads the county and we're all appreciative and I'm actually appreciative That I did get called out on this item so that we could bring this up in the public and make sure everybody is clear on our feelings about our CEO. So thank you.
And that brings us to Item A11.
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Tara Nelson and members of the board. Administrative item number 11 is from planning and development it is to consider recommendations regarding the Coastal Resource Enhancement Fund grant contract with the Lompoc Unified School District, and this is in the third district.
All right even though it's a third district I've been a big supporter and I know Supervisor Hartman has been as well of Cabrillo High School's aquarium program and I just want to take the opportunity to congratulate them And thank our colleagues for supporting this educational effort. It means a lot to me and the students, and the people of the Wampanoag Valley. And just wanted to highlight that we will be utilizing these funds that are coming from oil operations to give $90,000 to high school students that are gonna be able to learn project management, leadership, public speaking, ecology, environmental protection through this program.
And I just thought it was important enough to bring up. So that is all on that item, and so with that, I believe I'll take a motion to approve the entire agenda.
Mr Chair, I'd be happy to make that motion.
Thank you. Can I get a second?
Second.
All right. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion passes unanimously. Alright, at this time I'm going to read item A25 into the record. I've got a couple of resolutions as well right? Okay thank you Madam Clerk.
Chair Nelson and members of the board, administrative item number 25 is sponsored by Supervisor Nelson. It is to adopt a resolution proclaiming August 2021 as Child Support Awareness Month in Santa Barbara County and joining us via Zoom today we have Joni Maiden, Director of Child Support Services and I will go ahead and read the resolution into the record.
Thank you
Whereas Child Support Awareness Month underscores the critical importance of supporting families and connecting them with the vital resources they need to get by, especially amid the unprecedented pandemic challenges faced over the past year. And whereas research conducted statewide reveals that many California parents are unaware of the programs available for their benefit through child support services. And thus parents are encouraged to get the facts as services are more flexible and responsive to the needs of modern families than ever before.
And whereas Santa Barbara County Department of Child Support Services served over 11,000 child support cases in 2020. Collecting and distributing nearly 32.5 million in support to families and children, and whereas Santa Barbara County Department of Child Support Services is available virtually and in person to assist single parents and their families with improved services that expand eligibility and access for those in need.
And whereas throughout the month of August, the department is conducting virtual informational sessions in both English and Spanish about child support services, child support debt reduction and order modifications. And whereas, Child Support Awareness Month serves as a reminder that a single parent does not mean alone. Both parents and child support professionals are working together to ensure a bright future for California's children. And now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors proclaims August 2021 as Child Support Awareness Month in Santa Barbara County passed and adopted today.
Thank you. Before I go to Miss Maiden, I'm proud to be able to sponsor this item. Child Support Services is one of those departments in our county that's often not noticed but has a significant effect on the lives of many children and families in our county. This is a department that's been innovative and efficient and effective and I want to congratulate and recognize Miss Maiden in that department. Miss Maiden?
Joni, if you can hold on a moment. We can't hear you. Hold on just a moment please. Alrighty, please proceed. Joni, I'm sorry we're having some technical difficulties and we're checking it on our end. Thank you.
Please just bear with us for a moment. We'll get this figured out. We have actually one more resolution to present for one of our retirees so want to get this right.
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Chair Nelson and members of the board, my apologies. If we can have a quick five minute break? Absolutely. Much appreciated. All right, we're
going to take a five minute
break and be right back to you.
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All right, welcome back. We're going to go ahead and try this again. Go to Miss Maiden from Child Support Services. Again thank you for being patient.
Thank you and good morning Chair Nelson and members of the Board. I'm Joni Maiden the Director of the Department of Child Support Services as stated August is recognizing California and nationwide as child support awareness month underscoring the importance of supporting families and connecting them with the resources that they need Our program assists both parents as well as legal guardians in the active provision of a stable and supportive environment for their children.
This year, our focus is to encourage parents and guardians to get the facts about our program as services offered are more flexible and responsive to the needs of modern family than ever before. Here in Santa Barbara County we've been conducting live virtual information sessions that we're calling Get To Know Us conversations And these sessions are being presented by staff in both English and Spanish and cover topics such as an overview of our services, our debt reduction program, and how to change a court order.
I did want to mention that presenting for live Zoom sessions can be a little intimidating And I wanted to give a quick thank you to our caseworkers that stepped out of their comfort zone to do this. And they are Tiffany Soto, Arlene Herrera, Crystal Guzman and Jennifer Diaz and they're doing a great job so a big thank you to them. We've seen today it can be brought with a lot of unknown obstacles that come into the way As we continue to respond to the impacts of COVID-19, we are available virtually and in person to assist parents and their families with improved services that expand eligibility and access for those who need.
In order to make sure our services remain accessible to customers this month, we are attempting to survey approximately 10,000 of our case participants to determine whether or not we are meeting their communication and service requirements. And although we are using Child Support Awareness Month to kick off all of these initiatives, we will continue promoting them so that we remain informative, responsive and supportive to the families in need.
For the 11,000 cases we managed today and for those we help to serve in the future. Thank you.
Thank you Ms. Maiden. We look forward to having you join us again next year in person to celebrate this month. All right, that brings us to item number A-26. Madam Clerk will you please read that resolution?
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Chair Nelson and members of the Board, Administrative Item Number 26 is sponsored by Supervisor Nelson. It is to adopt a Resolution of Accommodation honoring Elizabeth Lisa Tenor upon her retirement from the Child Support Services Department after 21 years of faithful and distinguished service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County. And joining us via Zoom today we have Lisa Tenor.
I'll go ahead and read the resolution.
Thank you,
whereas Elizabeth known by Lisa tenors dedication to the child support program in public service was evident in her 21 years with the county as a child support officer and whereas Lisa's extensive knowledge of the Child Support Program work ethic and excellent customer service were instrumental in managing the post-order early intervention caseload and whereas Lisa brought her passion for the child support program to work every day as she assisted the community with establishing percentage parentage, obtaining court orders for child support for children and providing the utmost in quality customer service.
And whereas Lisa was known for her problem solving skills and frequently provided input on improving processes within the department. And whereas Lisa will be remembered as a helpful coworker always with a smile on her face For representing our department with kindness, compassion and professionalism. And for planning great office celebrations. Now therefore it is hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors commends Lisa Tenor for her faithful and distinguished service to the citizens and particularly the children of Santa Barbara County. Congratulates her upon her retirement and wishes her many years of continued good health and happiness in time with her beloved family past and adopted today.
Lisa, you're not here but in person so it's a little hard to see all the smiling faces and the claps from the board and the audience. But thank you for your service and I'd like to give you an opportunity to address the Board. It's quite appropriate that we are honoring you today at the same day we are honoring the department that you were able to give so much of your time and energy to promote.
Thank you.
So this is Joni, Chair Nelson and members of the board if you are okay I wanted to say a few words about Lisa before she speaks.
That'd be great thank you.
Thank you again Director of the Department of Child Support Services and I just wanted to acknowledge the hard work and dedication that Lisa devoted to our program in the community I first met her in 2002 when I was fortunate enough to be her direct supervisor in our Santa Maria office. And at that time, she was managing an early intervention caseload and it was a new caseload designed with the intent to get newly opened cases moving in a positive direction.
She helped develop the process for managing it talking at length with participants to fully explain the program And she developed the mechanisms to track the data and stats and closely monitor cases for compliance, and quickly take appropriate actions. Through the years she definitely managed a few different caseloads covering a variety of functions. And before she retired, she was managing an enforcement case load collecting child support pursuant to a court order that was established for the case.
Lisa is bilingual and her caseload of almost 600 was compiled of both English and Spanish speaking cases, and in fiscal year 2020 she collected almost $2 million in child support. Without a doubt those stats provide a glimmer of the outstanding performance she consistently put forth but they don't illustrate her caring nature She often did whatever she could to help those in need. And in our office, she started a food drive program. She was part of the team of caseworkers that annually collaborates with CASA donating gifts for children during the holidays and she's a gifted party planner and Was an organizer of many of our internal office celebrations and did an excellent job at that as well.
I can't thank her enough for all the years of service she gave to our office and program. And I know her contributions to the community will continue. I wish you all the best in your retirement, Lisa, and we're going to miss you.
Thank you, Ms. Maiden. Lisa?
Thank you. Thank you, Joni. Thank you everyone. I'll just make it short and sweet. I'd just like to say that working at DCSS and helping people in our community was extremely rewarding. I appreciate all that I learned and all the support from my coworkers who became my family. I miss you all, I miss the work believe it or not, I do, I miss helping people but it's just time for my new chapter and I appreciate the recognition so thank you.
Thank you Lisa, thank you for your service. So we approved both of those items as part of the entire administrative agenda. So at this time, we'll go ahead and move to public comment. This is for public comment for items that are not on the agenda today. Madam Clerk, do you have any public comment?
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Chair Nelson and members of the board, yes, we have 13 requests to speak on general public comment today.
All right.
And I will go ahead with our participants via Zoom and then we will come back to Santa Barbara. And we will begin with Maria Kastner. Maria, you can go ahead with your comments.
Hello? Can you hear me?
We
can. Dear Santa Barbara County Supervisors, I put in a California Public Records request for all data that is to support the information put on the county website with regards to the COVID-19 pandemic. Originally received a reply that all information is present on both the county and state website but upon further investigation by me no raw data and or sources are provided on either website I submitted my reply and got a different response back in that the county doesn't have this info available and has to gather it from outside sources. 17 months into this pandemic, and the county cannot provide its foundational evidence for the current pandemic. It makes claims daily yet when questioned on how it comes to those conclusions, it's incapable of providing the evidence.
Yet, we have supervisors who dare to label any public dissent and for questioning fake news. Yet these supervisors with Gary Hart being a prime example never have rebutted any claims made by the public which he deemed false. The fact that a COVID case is now someone who tests positive on a deeply flawed PCR test which creates many false positives and was not intended as a diagnostic tool for COVID-19 is highly troublesome. As I stated last week, and I quoted the FDA source. Also the COVID count by many counties around the country has been rather dubious and contributed to many false outcomes as my father-in-law who was a statistician for the government and contributed to determining the maximum alcohol content while driving under the influence in this country give me your desired outcome and I will create the parameters We need answers and rigorous examination of your facts which shape this county's COVID policies as to hold you accountable to your actions.
Thank you for your time.
All right, a couple of things just for agenda management and for the decorum of the board. We don't do clapping we do the hand-waving here it's a tradition for a long time you're glad to show your support in those ways. We just like to keep the meeting moving along it's something that we've done for many years here as far as public comment is concerned this is for all Anybody signed up for public comment today? This general public comment is for items that are not on the agenda. If you're here to speak about COVID-19, you're going to speak in item D1. So there's a difference there. Glad to hear from you. Glad you're here to speak to us. We will be here to listen but just for the agenda management and for the order of what we're trying to do here if you would just delay your comments to that and then So
moving on to item or the next public commenter.
We will now go to Grace Wallace to be followed by Andy Caldwell. Grace you can begin your comments. Grace I see you have just unmuted yourself, you can proceed with your comments thank you.
Okay It looks like it's going to be on COVID, so I'm going to wait till D1. Thank you.
Thank You Ms. Wallace.
We will now go to Andy Caldwell to be followed by Leslie Weinstock. Andy?
Mr. Caldwell
Chair Nelson, members of the board. First off I'm pretty disappointed on I don't want to waste my time on this. I sent you an email chair Nelson. I did not call you out. I called out all five county supervisors. I did not misrepresent the facts with regard to Mona's salary. I put in the in that text or Facebook total costs with benefits Secondly, and I've said this many times before. I think Mona Miyasato is an excellent CEO. I also acknowledge she's not being paid anymore. In fact, she's probably being paid less than her counterparts. That's not the point. The point is these things are getting too high. Especially with your pension crises, that was the only point here. In fact on yesterday's show we specifically compared her to Paul Casey who has a much smaller staff and a much smaller budget so I'd appreciate it if you're claiming somebody is misrepresenting you don't misrepresent them.
The thing I wanted to talk about today is the oil spill in Toro Canyon Why hasn't this been a departmental item? You put it on the agenda back in May, and then the newspapers say in August there was a leak. But back in May you were told that there was a leak, there was problem, the question who is gonna clean it up, who has responsibility, who didn't get the right permit.
Here's the deal folks, accidents happen. Accidents happen. But if this had been an oil company, you would have had a press conference. Well 50 animals injured or died, 600 gallons of oil spilled in a creek. You would've had a press conference, you would've had a photo op and you would've called for prosecution. But now the government is somehow responsible for not maintaining this leak.
Barrett on the agenda back in May, goes into closed session in August and then somehow the press gets this idea that all of this happened in August when you guys knew three months ago and in fact according to your staff report, the accidents to the structure one of them was a leak But some of the other things happened in 2017 and 2018. If this had been Greca, he would have been calling to shut him down. A truck driver for crying out loud got prosecuted for a wreck.
Double standards. You either are completely care about the environment Or you use these things for political purposes against the oil industry. Which is it? Departmental item, please.
Thank you Mr. Caldwell. That is your time.
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We will now go to Leslie Weinstock to be followed by Katie Mickey. Leslie, you can proceed with your comments.
Good morning. I really want to acknowledge how much you all have on your plate, how challenging your jobs are and how incredible your service is to us. It's unfortunate that my group Safe Tech SBC was not informed in time to show up and stop the votes for the crossouts to the telecom code in December 2019. Starting two years ago, we should have presented expert witnesses and communicated more effectively about the biological and safety effects of unneeded, unmonitored overpowered cell towers.
You have been hoodwinked by the telecom industry example, the NIH study proved radio frequency radiation RFR causes cancer. The industry used the tobacco playbook Spun the science and continues to discredit the researchers. This is what we are up against this behavior is typical when profit is paramount. The August 13th FCC ruling showed that the FCC did not consider the evidence of RFR harm to health and environment.
Not only did the court say that the FCC's order is, quote, arbitrary and capricious, end quote. No one is monitoring the radiation. The current RFR frequencies are being transmitted with no FCC guidelines. Therefore we can use this court ruling as a reason to strengthen our code We now have several stellar expert witnesses available to explain the science and the action you can take to boost our protections, especially in light of these three terrible state wireless broadband bills SB 556, AB 537 and SB 378 which will deregulate the wireless industry.
This could be your last chance to reverse the cross outs and add the essential amendments, including notification monitoring procedural guidance for the planners and require proof of insurance without a pollution exclusion. Near my home on East Valley Road I feel horrified to see so-called small cells on almost every pole In preparation for a 5G technology never studied for safety.
Please meet with us and our experts to hear new information, work together to brainstorm solutions, boost our local authority and prevent injury lawsuits from your constituents by this reckless disregard of harm to public safety and the environment. Thank you.
We will now go to Katie Mickey to be followed by Jeffrey Schwartz.
Miss Mickey, when you're ready.
Dear County Board of Supervisors, greetings from the Hilton in Boston on layover due to Hurricane Henry. I am moved to listen into your meeting and all the care you extend each item on your agenda You have many responsibilities. A primary one is to keep us safe in Santa Barbara County. A week ago Friday, the Ninth District Court of Appeals in D.C. ruled that the guidelines set by the FCC in 1996 are unsafe.
The wireless small cell antennas lining our neighborhoods and commercial neighborhoods are no longer deemed safe by the Ninth District Court of Appeals. The FCC has been ignoring mountains of evidence from peer-reviewed studies that conclude that the current exposure limits cause harm. In these studies, they have demonstrated that these exposure limits cause cancer, lowered immune response and neurological damage.
Furthermore, No one is monitoring the transmission levels to be sure that they are even within the limits of the current exposure levels. So in December 2019, as Leslie has pointed out our county code, our county crossed out two great protections in our code which were proof of significant gap in coverage and restriction from placement in residential neighborhoods.
These small cell antennas are not safe for many reasons. The exposure levels for radiating frequency radiation are too high, they're also combustible. Malibu has incurred two horrific fires due to combustion from cell antennas and downed power lines. Powering these small cell antennas greatly increase greenhouse emissions contributing to climate change. Are they essential?
No, macro towers in the mountains can meet our county's broadband needs and keep our residential and commercial neighborhoods safe. For the past 31 years as director of the Santa Barbara Body Therapy Institute I have trained the bulk of the massage therapists that fill our spas and chiropractic offices. My job has to been to keep the public safe, I am honored to do so.
My request is that in light of the Ninth District Court of Appeals ruling that the cross outs of December 2019 be reconsidered. I request that the county supervisors at County Attorney and Planning Department meet with Safe County, for Santa Barbara County to discuss revisions of the county code. Thank you for your consideration.
Thank you, Miss Mickey.
We will now go to Jeffrey Schwartz and then we are going to return to Santa Barbara for Tristan Strauss.
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Mr. Schwartz when you're ready. Can you hear me? We can.
Okay this is not about a topic in particular that's on the agenda it's this is about genocide and the history of genocide in this world. The so-called Stages of Genocide is a scholarly analysis of mass genocides that have taken place during the history of the world. This analysis has been presented by academics to the U.S. Department of State in scholarly papers by university professors.
This pattern of genocide, stages of genocide Based on previous historical genocides involve several predictable and inevitable stages a society must go through before it is possible for a genocide to take place. Virtually all known genocides in history have been preceded by these stages. The question is, are we as a society and our governments currently going through any of these familiar stages of genocide?
And if so Are we going to allow these stages of genocide to continue to move forward, or are we going to recognize and stop this trend before possibly it becomes too late? The first stage of genocide is classification. People are divided into groups of us for them ask yourself has this country been divided over the last 18 months symbolization People are forced to identify themselves as to which group they're in.
Ask yourself, are we asking people to identify themselves? Have we been doing that lately? Discrimination. People in the target group begin to face systemic discrimination for example not being able to enter stores, being fired from their jobs, not being able to use public transportation. Ask yourself Are we starting to discriminate against certain segments of the population over the last few months? Dehumanization, people in the target group are equated as lower than human. Organization, government begins creates or signs categories of people to enforce these policies. Polarization, the government broadcasts propaganda to turn the population against the group So are we discriminated against a group right now? Are we classifying people, are we asking them to identify themselves?
Are we organizing systems to separate people and you know this goes down. This goes to a 10th stage of extermination and then finally the last stage is denial where the government denies that it has committed any crime so You know, you're in the government. Are you in denial that some bad things are happening right now? That this country's being divided and the groups are being discriminated against, being told they can't enter stores, being fired from their jobs, told they cannot use transportation. Now this
is not about- Thank you Mr. Schwartz. Thank you Mr Schwartz. That is your time.
We will now.
I mean, you know, I just think it's interesting and should be noted for those watching on television that there is half a room full of people encouraging a man that is comparing COVID policies to the first stages of genocide. And that to me is just sort of stunning that people and you know, To all the peoples that have endured oppression, tyranny and genocide.
It is such a devaluation of those things to have people compare wearing a mask to the systematic killing of other human beings. It's stunning,
truly stunning. Thank you Supervisor Williams. Next commenter.
Chair Nelson and members of the board, we will now return to Santa Barbara with Tristan Strauss to be followed by Mark Shatillo. Tristan?
Honorable Chair Nelson and Board of Supervisors my name is Tristan Strauss I'm the CEO and founder of Headwaters. Slightly less intense topic than the previous discussion, but We have several approved and pending cannabis cultivation projects in Carpinteria at Headwaters We are currently one of the largest greenhouse cultivators in the state and we are the largest wholesale distributor In the state currently today But I'm here as the past president of Carp Growers to announce that we have reached a historic agreement with the Coalition for Responsible Cannabis.
Our discussions began in September last year when Rob Solomon and Lionel Neff, board members of the coalition and I began discussing how our two organizations could work together in context of one of our specific projects. We then looked to expand the conversation to all of Carp Growers Over the last year, we have held dozens of meetings and have learned a lot from each other.
The agreement between our two organizations will apply to all of the members of Carp Growers. This is significant because the association represents over 20 current and proposed projects constituting the vast majority of projects in carpenteria. The critical components to this agreement all correlate to the core components transparency and science The agreement specifically is designed to create clear, transparent communication channels between the cultivators and the community.
The agreement also relies on the pillars of science and data to determine what creates odor events and how they can be mitigated. CARP Growers as an organization has made immense progress over the last year in advancing the science of odor control technology. The agreement will hold the growers accountable to solving odor issues with data, testing, monitoring and best available control technology.
Our members have also agreed to an expansive tiered response program in exchange for the support of our projects by the coalition. We believe this new program will help residents track resolution of odor complaints and lessen the burden of the county. Our cooperation is unprecedented and truly sets a model for the new legal cannabis industry. In conclusion, we'd really like to thank the board for your support of our partnership.
And a big thank you to Travis Seward and Joe Dargill for their diligence in support of this agreement. And of course, thank you to the county staff for their continued efforts to process and approve our projects in a timely manner. Thank you. Thank you Mr Strauss
and congratulations.
We will now go to Mark Shatillo to be followed by Sherry Lewis.
Mark? Good morning Board of Supervisors. This is deja vu all over again. I'm Mark Shatillo and today is truly an historic day. My colleague Tristan Strauss with the carp growers and the community have been working as he noted for many, many months. The Coalition for Responsible Cannabis has been an active participant in the effort to craft the kinds of additional controls and strategies to ensure that carpentry will be able to experience odor-free conditions into the future.
As you know, air quality is a practice area of mine and taking air quality principles to odor control led us to the science. I was very pleased that Carp Growers has been embarked in a rigorous scientific program of study of both odor control technologies and odor detection technologies that allowed us to develop a comprehensive set of odor abatement plans, a model odor abatement plan that was developed in conjunction with county staff, and an attending set of guidelines with additional voluntary provisions that the carp growers members will employ at each of their operations modeled after the Kuyama Guidelines addressing groundwater in that area.
These two documents are covered by a comprehensive agreement that ensures that research to accomplish these goals will be ongoing and that these commitments will be fulfilled. The specific enhancements That we have agreed to that go beyond what the ordinance would otherwise require include a mandatory use of the best available control technology, including best available control technology upgrades into a carbon scrubber.
Technology platform as compared to a vapor phase platform that were currently using this is still a technology that is in development It has been subjected to pilot testing and we are looking forward to greenhouse scale testing over the next four months, to be able to confirm that this technology will be effective at addressing odor issues. The agreements provide for testing and audits of operations, both at their initial startup and when there are significant odor issues.
The agreements provide for a substantially improved and expanded levels of community engagement and robust protocols for responding to odor episodes. And finally, expanding clean air areas in Carpinteria to include schools, parks and businesses.
Thank you, Mr.
Chateau. I appreciate the county support for this effort. Thank you. Thank you. Congratulations.
We will now go to Sherry Lewis to be followed by Brooke Rogers. Sherry?
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Hello chair and members of the board. Last week, the CEO of Marion Medical Center was here but something that they failed to mention was the discrimination, the harassment and the threats that are focused at health care workers that we will lose our jobs. I want you to join me on a journey as a frontline worker that's been working in the hospital since the inception of this pandemic. I went to work not knowing if I would die or if I'd bring this virus home to my family in order to support my community After working four to seven 18-hour days a week, imagine sleeping in your car or in a tent in your backyard as many of us did do because we didn't know what was going on.
Then having a three year old that you were too scared to touch because you're fear harming that child. After not seeing her mom for days the closest this little one gets to her mom is placing their hands on opposite sides of a glass window Now that same mom is being told that she's going to be fired in a few weeks for not injecting a drug into her body, that the CDC has already stated does not stop infection, does not stop the spread of the disease and you're not guaranteed that you won't die.
Marion is offering medical exemptions and religious exemptions but they've put out a statement using verbiage like in rare instances That those are granted, which leads you to believe that they're not going to be granted. Mayo Clinic is actually offering same exemptions but they also offer a declination so as not to discriminate those who have no religious beliefs.
They don't say that their exemptions are rare. Marion Medical Center and other hospitals within our county are on the verge of catastrophe. The hospitals are extremely over understaffed, they cannot get travelers to help. We're being offered double time in order to fill these gaps and work at 18 hour days. I want to work but I'm being threatened that I'll be fired if I'm not fully vaccinated by September 30th.
Yesterday we held a rally here in Santa Maria where 300 hospital staff and your constituents stood in support of us Hospital staff for freedom of choice. If the hospitals cannot handle the influx of patients now, what will happen to the communities that you serve when the hospitals get to that vaccination deadline and staff is dismissed? Hundreds of employees are prepared to stand up for their personal autonomy and exercise our constitutional rights if that means losing our jobs. Unfortunately we're prepared to do that. We want to serve our community. That is what we were born and bred At Marion, the Vice President for Medical Affairs expressed his frustration to a nurse stating that 30% of the hospital was not vaccinated.
So if 20-30% of those hospital workers are let go who will be left to care for the patients? Are you willing to sacrifice the safety and the members of your community risking the health and safety of every single person that's here? We as hospital workers want you our elected officials to stand up for us You need us to support our community and to be there for the members of the community. The staff is strong, and we're getting prepared to move on in exploring options since there are so many open jobs right now that we can fill In order to pay our bills.
Thank you, Miss Lewis. That's your time. I'm sorry went a little over again that was definitely going towards more item D1. I did allow it to continue in public comment because it was response to something that happened last week but I would prefer that we keep more of our COVID discussion to D1 I'm glad to hear from all of you and I would like to I just like to try to keep our meeting going in somewhat of an orderly fashion if I can So with that,
perhaps since there might be some people who are unfamiliar with the procedures you would ask people ahead of time if they really meant to speak to D1.
Again I'll leave it to all of you please speak to if it's COVID related it's really should stick to D1 again you have this opportunity to speak on it and I want to make sure that you guys get your opportunity Have your say in a public forum. I do not want to discourage that in any way, so I just want to make sure but I want to do it in an orderly way and so if we can do it during D1 that would be the ideal situation. But thank you Miss Lewis for your comments.
Chair Nelson and members of the board proceeding with general public comment for items not on our agenda today. We have Brooke Rogers to be followed by Dr. Thiele. Brooke? Yes. My
comment is also related
I would prefer to hear you in D1. I think it'd be a little bit more together at that point, so if you don't mind waiting
we will move you to departmental item number one thank you our next speaker is Dr. Feeley to be followed by Fred Sweeney
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Chairman and the board Thank you for having me speak. Doss Williams, before you marginalized me I used to walk precincts with you. Remember Save Moore Mesa? Save Ellwood? So don't look at me and say I'm some one-off. Mr. Chair, I
am not attempting to marginalize anyone and respect people who disagree but comparing things to genocide is in my view not accurate and shameful.
Thank you. One second. Supervisor Williams, I do understand your concern. You will absolutely have an opportunity to respond to these comments during D1. I want to give my colleagues as much broad latitude to speak on behalf of their constituents and I will do that but I also want to give you an opportunity to have your say as well so please proceed.
So I'm going to introduce myself. My name is Mike Feely. I'm a resident of Santa Barbara County. I'm speaking today on behalf of myself, my qualified experience as an emergency physician of 34 years. I've been working full-time through this whole last two years and my moral and my conscience. So today I want to quote that great philosopher maybe four of them Neil Young.
I've seen the needle in the damage done a little bit of it in everyone. I have seen the people getting this so-called vaccine. It's not a vaccine, we won't go into that I don't have time but the shots have seen horrible injuries autoimmune heart attacks strokes other neurologic events thrombotic events which you know blood clots in the lungs diffuse blood clots in the lungs too detailed to go into right now.
So what we're facing is you know what the nurse said over there I don't want to get this thing. I'm not afraid of COVID. I've seen it, probably had it like most people so why do we need to get it? We have this thing called the immune system which once it sees something and conquers it you own it and it has no statute of limitations. You're golden. So this thing is being pushed on us. I am being told that I won't have a job after September unless I acquiesce and get the jab. I am not going to get it. I've seen it.
Moral objections to this deep moral objections. It's not right and I think you're gonna vote on that mandate for your for your You know, your county employees here so it's coercion plain and simple and there's this thing called the Nuremberg laws have Sketched through if I remember article one was coercion. This is coercion plain and simple And don't don't do this thing. It it's not the right thing to do Okay And that's all I have to say for today. All right save more Mesa, right? Thank
you doctor
We will now go to Fred Sweeney and then we will return to zoom for Amy Smith who is our final speaker Fred
Welcome mr. Sweeney Thank you, Mr. Chair and supervisors. I'm here to talk about something happy but I have to tell you as a private citizen who just walked down from my home to attend this meeting this is the most frightening position I've ever been in in this COVID period to be in a room full of people that aren't vaccinated. This is scary shame on you people!
Shame on you Anyway, I want to get to happier things. One is I opened my Facebook before I left my desk this morning. Happy birthday Mr. Hart and to the supervisors. I am Fred Sweeney. I'm president of the Mission Heritage Trail Association also known as Safe Passage and I have to tell you I spent some hours in this room as a senior design partner retired from a firm that was once called Art Moser Grant who designed this building I'm There is a road called Simas Street in Santa Maria Valley. That is my family, so I have deep roots here but today I want to bring to you a copy which I think all of you have received at this point of something called the Mission Heritage Trail Walking Guide to the area known as the Las Olivos or excuse me, Las Olivos Laguna Street to Mission Canyon up to Los Encinas And at the cultural and historical birth of Santa Barbara.
That's a place that the Chumash walked thousands of years ago, it's the source of all our water originally so it's a very important component of who we are as Santa Barbarans and I hope that you take the opportunity to take that walk. These are being printed and published by organization for free for the public they were available admission At the Natural History Museum, the Santa Barbara Historical Society, the El Presidio and Botanic Gardens and other locations. Thank you so much.
Thank You Mr. Sweeney
And we will now go to our final speaker on Zoom Amy Smith
all right before I go to Miss Smith
Supervisor Hart just want to say thank you Mr. Sweeney for bringing this to us and sharing the work of updating all this information that he
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Thank you, Supervisor Hart. On to Ms. Smith when you're ready or Dr. Smith.
And Amy if you can go ahead and unmute yourself. Can you hear me now?
We can.
Can you hear me? Yes Amy please proceed with your comments thank you. Great thank you I am
Here to address the position of the Board of Supervisors, it is related to COVID but it's not about the health officer's report. This is about the general governance that we're facing in this very strange time. So Supervisor Nelson last time had the lawyer explain that there's a separation of powers between the board and of supervisors and the Board of Health But I would just like to remind you that we are supposed to be in a government of the people, by the people and for the people. Not the drug companies, not the big tech companies, not the corporate approved experts but we the people. That means the health officers serve at your discretion, you as our elected county supervisors. That means at the very least you should be willing to do independent research and be working to ask the right questions to make sure they're doing the best job possible for we the people, the people who elected you.
It was very disappointing but stating the obvious when Supervisor Hart said at the last meeting he wasn't interested in listening to individuals from the public. But as we, the people who make up the public and that you are accountable to not to Pfizer, not to Moderna or Johnson & Johnson, not to Google or Twitter, not to unpopular governor who dined mass List in luxury while people lost their livelihoods under his shutdown policies and not your political party. We are the ones who are free to give honest and independent opinions, unlike your health officers and doctors in corporations like Cottage Hospital who work in a field that is nearly entirely captured by big pharma. Please read Ben Goldacre's book Bad Pharma How Drug Companies Mislead Doctors And Harm Patients To find out how Big Pharma has captured regulation, such as by the FDA, captured medical education, captured medical research, captured medical publishing.
Captured mainstream media through being one of the largest ad customers and captured legislators and executives through campaign contributions. Doctors who speak against the interests of these corporations are censored, slandered, and fired. Data Thirsty Big Tech has teamed up with Big Pharma since they want the ability to track all citizens with a passport brought in on the pretext of tracking vaccination status and have joined into sensor independent medical research and opinions.
The governor created order to mandate the shots for all healthcare workers despite there being no long-term testing for these shots, and despite the shots not being out of phase three trials until the end of 2022. Despite evidence of failure to prevent or stop transmission of COVID and despite evidence of tens of thousands of severe adverse reactions, including permanent disability and death.
When the governor called for the shutdowns of our county you guys stood up, you guys tried to speak up. What are you doing to speak up against this thing that will harm our healthcare system? Supposedly we're stopping flattening the curve to protect the healthcare capacity. So now is a time to stand up for us thank
Thank you Ms. Smith, that is your time.
And that was our final speaker.
All right thank you Madam Clerk. At this time we'll be moving along to our departmental agenda the next item up is Departmental Item 1. Madam Clerk will you please read that item into the record?
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Chair Nelson and members of the Board, Departmental Item number one is from the County Executive Office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an update on the coronavirus disease 2019 COVID-19.
All right. Before we get into this item, Madam Clerk do we have public commenters on this item?
Chair Nelson and members of the board yes we have 20 requests to speak on this item
all right I'm going to go ahead and close public comment for this item and we'll go ahead with our presentation from Dr. Dobernoso
Good morning, Chair Nelson and members of the board. Today I will be briefing your board on our COVID-19 data vaccine and testing capacity. Dr. Ansorg, our county health officer, will be addressing some of the worries and concerns circulating in our community about COVID- 19. May I have my slides? Madam Clerk?
They're up.
Okay, great. Next.
As of August
14th, Cases were 3.9 times more likely to be unvaccinated than vaccinated. The countywide case rate was 22.8 per 100,000 but when we drill down we see that the case rate is 37.3 per 100,000 among unvaccinated individuals and a low of 9.5 per 100 thousand among vaccinated individuals. And we're continuing to see this
great divide. Next.
This chart compares the case rates of San Luis Obispo County, Santa Barbara County and Ventura County. All three counties had similar case rates on July 23rd. Slow at 12.1, Santa Barbara County at 12. 1 and Ventura at 11.2. On August 13th, we see that SLO had a case rate of 36.1 per 100,000. That's roughly a 200% increase over four weeks followed by Ventura with a case rate of 27.4 which is about a 145% increase and Santa Barbara County with a case rate of 25.1 per 100,000 which is about a 107% increase.
In addition the table on the right compares the current vaccination rates between the three counties with Santa Barbara at 63.7%, Ventura at 67.1% and Slow at 59.7%. We think that the health officer order requiring universal masking indoors, in combination with adherence to safety precautions and vaccination rate is having a positive impact on our case rate. And hopefully we'll begin to see that for the region as a whole now that slow has a strong recommendation for universal masking indoors And Ventura just issued their requirement last week.
Next, this is a snapshot of our county by the numbers we have as of yesterday new cases 83 and this is down from a two-week average of 120. We reported one new death We currently have 708 active cases. This is a 3% increase from a two-week average of 690. We currently have 77 individuals hospitalized, and of that 15 are in the ICU. And this is a 38% increase from a two week average of 56.
Total cases in our county stands at 38,000 302 total deaths at 473. Our case rate as of August 19th is 21 cases per 100,000 and total testing positivity at 7.7 next. This is a both a historical depiction of our hospitalizations as well as the current state. The top chart shows our hospitalization since the beginning of the pandemic, April 2020 and as you can see we last experienced a surge during the summer with 89 hospitalized at the end of July so roughly July 29th.
And then the winter surge following had the highest number of hospitalization at 211 on January 12th. So that's the biggest bump or curve in the middle of the graph. The bottom chart is a zoomed-in look of our hospitalization from July 2021 to current yesterday, August 23rd. As our cases are climbing, we're now seeing our hospitalization increasing as well.
So our hospitalization rates have increased from 35 to 77 if we look at it from a two-week period. So if we look from August 9th to August 23rd, this is 120% increase. And with regards to ICU rates for the same period August 9th through the 23rd, we're seeing a 200% increase. So going from 5 cases to 15 cases. I'd like to note that the percentage of ICU beds used per number of hospitalization really parallels with the previous surge last year. When we saw numbers increasing in December and January. And if a hospitalization continues to follow the same trajectory, we anticipate hospitalizations to increase and peaking perhaps in five to six weeks next.
As I mentioned last week, when our cases increase we worry about the capacity of our hospital system. And again not only to care for COVID-19 patients but for all the other patients with critical medical needs as well. Currently we have 67% of the hospital beds in use which means that we are in the red zone since we have less than 35% bed capacity We currently have 79% of our staffed ICU beds in use. For this metric, we're 1% away from being in the red zone which is when we have less than 20% available.
We are monitoring hospitalizations closely and per state health officer order, we are also in conversation with other hospitals in the region as they approach full capacity as well. Next. With regards to COVID-19 hospitalization from available data for May, June and July we've had 100 hospitalized due to COVID-19 88% were vaccinated Were I'm sorry, 88% were unvaccinated and 12% were vaccinated with regards to the 12 hospitalized patients who were vaccinated. We are looking into the demographics and the circumstances as well next.
With regards to vaccination rates, as of yesterday we have 64% of eligible Santa Barbara County fully vaccinated. So this means that there remains 139,758 eligible Santa Barbara County residents who are yet to be vaccinated. And another way of looking at this is one in three eligible persons in Santa Barbara County is unvaccinated. Next. Current outbreaks, currently we have 49 active outbreaks that our public health team is monitoring to mitigate the spread. We have 12 Outbreaks in businesses, we have 10 in schools and we have 27 in congregate living facilities.
Next. And again.
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We have reached a huge milestone in this pandemic as you may have heard yesterday on August 23rd the Pfizer vaccine received full approval from the Food and Drug Administration, or FDA for patients ages 16 and older. So full FDA approval is largely based on how effective a vaccine is over a longer period of time. At this time, Moderna has also applied for full approval based on their ongoing research into the vaccine's long-term effectiveness. The review process is still ongoing, and they anticipate approval shortly.
As the acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock stated, while Pfizer and other vaccines have met the FDA's rigorous scientific standards for emergency use authorization as the first FDA approved COVID-19 vaccine, the public can be very confident That the Pfizer vaccine meets the high standards for safety, effectiveness and manufacturing quality. The FDA requires of an approved product.
For the 12 years and 15 for so forth, the age group 12 to 15 and the 3rd dose for immunocompromised individuals. It is still under emergency use authorization. So this means that the. FDA has determined that the vaccine may be effective in preventing a serious or life-threatening condition, and that the vaccine's known and potential benefits can really outweigh its known and potential risks. And that additional time is needed to ensure effectiveness over a long period of time.
As you are aware, vaccines are tightly regulated in the U.S., and go through an extremely rigorous evaluation process to ensure safety and effectiveness. The FDA has strict protocol that outlines very specific safety, effectiveness, and study requirements for drug and vaccine manufacturers to follow. These requirements must be met in order to pursue approval including emergency use basis.
So when there is an emergency such as global pandemic, the FDA can issue in an Emergency Use Authorization or EUA to provide more timely access to critical medical interventions when there are no other available alternatives. Available COVID-19 vaccines have been determined safe and highly effective in preventing COVID-19 by the FDA And just to further reassure the public, additional precautions were taken to validate the vaccine safety and efficacy. California together with Washington, Oregon and Nevada formed what's known as the Western States PAC which is an independent group of medical experts assembled to confirm vaccine safety And efficacy, and the covert vaccines available today received the green light from this independent group of scientists and doctors following their FDA emergency use authorization.
Anticipated increase in vaccine uptake due to approval status. As we have heard for some, the FDA approval of a vaccine may now instill additional confidence to get vaccinated. Approval may reassure some people who are hesitant about the vaccine. A national poll in June indicated that 31% of unvaccinated people indicated that they would be more likely to get a COVID-19 vaccine once one receives full approval from the FDA. So what this means is that hopefully about 42,000 to 43,000 people in Santa Barbara County may be ready to get their first vaccine shot soon.
Next? With regards to our county's vaccine capacity, I have this chart to show you the capacity of our community to deliver vaccines. So we have providers, pharmacies and hospitals as well as a fixed site from public health And the mobile clinics from public health spread throughout our county in the north, in the mid as well as in the south. So all together we have 35 locations in in the north 11 in the mid county and 39 in the South County. And in addition to this again the Public Health Department I'd like to share a little bit about the work that we have been doing in the community So August is back to school month and we have been very busy rounding up backpacks and great appreciation to all of the county and community partners who have donated backpacks.
So for the first weekend in August, we were in Santa Maria at the fair park in partnership with my cop and the NAACP We distributed 455 backpacks, reach over 145 families with many of them receiving their first dose and the rest receiving information for when they are ready. The following week we were in Lompoc in partnership with the Lompoc Valley Medical Center, Lompoc Valley Community Healthcare Organization and the NAACP Together, 150 backpacks were given. 315 laptop cases and school supplies were given for 245 vaccines given with 120 to youth under 18. So this is the Lompoc Valley community saw a 318% increase in vaccination From the previous week due to this outreach event, all the families that received a bag were supplied were provided vaccine education as well.
And last week our mobile vaccination program together with our Franklin Health Care Center partnered with Franklin Elementary to offer more than 100 doses to the surrounding community and also distributed backpacks to kids if they needed them. So these are just some of examples of how our public health department is working with community partners to vaccinate members of our community.
Next, I'd like to brief your board on our testing capacity. We continue to enhance The availability of testing in our county. We now have employer base testing via state partnership and the Public Health Department has been instrumental in linking schools are growers, our agricultural businesses, our shelters and other organizations and employers to contract with the state for free testing.
And this is an option open to all organizations and employers. We also continue to have testing available at the Goleta Valley Community Center, at Buellton, at Santa Maria Fair Park, at our Santa Barbara Health Care Center as well as in Lompoc at our health care center. And coming soon we will be acquiring an additional mini bus that can offer 160 tests a day to Goleta and the Santa Barbara community.
Next, Dr. Ansorg will be presenting facts and references to some of the questions and statements that we've been hearing.
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Thank you, Chair Nelson
and members of the board. We are seeing and hearing a lot of inaccurate claims about COVID, the pandemic in general masking testing and vaccines. This is being disseminated
widely on social media and other platforms. Many officials and media personalities
continue to repeat false or out-of-context information And as your public health officer, I'm very concerned about the negative impact this has on people who do not know whom to trust. I want to encourage everyone to please choose wisely which sources of information on COVID are trustworthy. I created a few slides to address some of the most common issues Number one, there are claims the PCR test for COVID is unreliable.
No medical test is ever 100% reliable. That's the nature of medical tests. The fact is that nowadays, the PCR test that we are currently using over various platforms is by now very reliable with a very high sensitivity of 90 to 95%, and a specificity of 99%. And I am giving the scientific references for the media and for people who keep saying that we don't have evidence to back what we are doing. Next slide, please.
There's a myth that having recovered from COVID will give me better protection against future variants of this current Delta. Unfortunately, that is not accurate. The COVID vaccine is designed to create antibodies against the spike protein, and therefore will have better protection than natural immunity against variants and mutations. Even if somebody has recovered from COVID they're well advised to get the vaccine in order to
have optimal protection. Next slide please. There's been the case
that COVID vaccines are causing death very frequently. People keep repeating that thousands of deaths have been reported due to the vaccine. Every side effect is reported to the VAERS platform from the FDA and the CDC until July of 19, Only 6,207 reports of a death among people who received the vaccine had been reported. This is taken very seriously and the CDC evaluates every single case and they determined that only three were caused by blood clots directly linked to receiving the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
All other deaths were deemed to be due to other causes. Now We have learned that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine can make people more at risk for blood clots. And we know now how to anticipate that and deal with it
better from before. Next slide, please. It's often said that the vaccine is experimental.
Well or even said the vaccine is experimental gene therapy Fact is the experimental phase on the messenger RNA vaccines have been conducted for over a decade prior to implementing it for the COVID vaccine. It's been used for cancer, to attack cancer cells and allergens and other viruses as well. The current vaccine went through all required safety and efficacy study phases per the FDA It is not gene therapy.
The DNA
of the recipient does not get altered at all. Next slide, please. It's often said that COVID
vaccine causes infertility. There has been a very robust study looking at all Reports and evidence, and I give the reference here. And there's absolutely no evidence that COVID vaccines in any way affect fertility
in men or women. Next slide. Thank you. That concludes my presentation.
And that concludes our briefing this morning.
All right, thank you Doctor Dover know so and doctor on Zork questions from the board. Supervisor Levin you know
thank you Mister chair I'm not sure if it's doctor answer good doctor or no. So but a question about boosters. I'm getting numerous contacts from constituents who is are they available? Who is who qualifies for that and when I kind of heard the time frame of maybe 8 months And I'm not sure if that's from the first shot or the second shot.
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Yes, Supervisor Lavagnino, booster shots are currently approved for people with severe immunosuppressive conditions like somebody who takes medication for an organ transplant or for chemotherapy for cancer some genetic genetic diseases that cause people to have a really weak immune system or patients with autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis and the like, who have to take medications that suppresses the immune system. Those people may have their booster shot or their third shot four weeks after their second shot Now, everybody else will as of September 20th will have the opportunity to get a third shot eight months after the second shot. And that is anybody who received either the Pfizer or the Moderna vaccine for the Johnson and Johnson vaccine.
We don't have any recommendations as of yet but we're anticipating that to come shortly.
All right thank you Dr. Anzorg.
Supervisor Hart and then Hartman Thank you, Mr. Chair. I had a question from constituents who have been asking about where they should direct complaints about businesses that are not following the mask order. I don't know where the best place is for those complaints.
Before you go there Supervisor Hart, again I just want to ask you guys to give us a chance to ask our questions. We'll try to make sure we're not interrupting you as well so let's try to keep the meeting moving along. So Supervisor Hart, I guess that question would be for Public Health or Ms. Anderson?
Yes. So Supervisor Hart through the Chair, the members of the public can go on to our website And there is a button that says complaint. And then they will, it'll take them to a form. They can be very specific about their issue or concerned and we audit, we have a process that we reach out to the business or the place in question for some dialogue and education.
Thank you Dr. Doroneso. And after board members have their questions asked I have some comments too.
All right. Thank you, Supervisor Hartman. Do we make those comments before or after public comment? Before public comment. All right. Supervisor Hartman.
Yes I think this is, I'm not sure whether it's for Dr. Domarinoso or Dr. Ansarg but on the radio this morning it said that in the United States one in five new cases are pediatric and that to me is very concerning and I would like to know what your advice is to parents of children who are going to school and how best to keep them safe especially if they're under 12?
Yes, Supervisor Hartman this is very
concerning to us as well. This is new. We have some pediatric cases even in our hospitals and obviously it is very concerning we are working very closely with the schools The best advice I can give is to parents, please be vaccinated in order for you to protect your children. Follow the masking guidelines indoors at schools as mandated by the state And when your child has even mild symptoms like you know a cough or anything minor, please don't let the child go to school. Have it tested and unfortunately that's the best advice we can give at this moment.
Thank you Dr. Ansorka. Other questions from the board? Seeing none, Supervisor Hart. Thank you Mr. Chair.
It's very good news that the scientific and medical experts at the Federal Drug Administration have now completed the comprehensive and exhaustive evaluation and given full approval of the Pfizer COVID vaccine. I'm hoping that those in the community who are on the fence waiting this significant milestone to be achieved will now take this opportunity to get vaccinated Yesterday President Biden called on private sector employers and state local governments to now move forward and require employees to be vaccinated.
I strongly believe the county should heed the president's call and begin requiring our employees to verify COVID-19 vaccination or undergo regular testing. Both public health and be well employees working on the front lines with the public are already required to have a vaccination. And it's my understanding, the state will also be requiring all custody deputies in the sheriff's department to receive vaccinations.
This policy will promote safety in the county workplace and among the general public because sheriff's deputies, firefighters, building inspectors and many other county employees come into regular contact with members of the community. With those two things in mind, the safety of our employees and the safety of the public we serve I believe this critically important next step is necessary now.
Yesterday, the Pentagon announced that all active duty U.S. military personnel will be required to be vaccinated. Employees of Disney Corporation, Google, Facebook and United Airlines must also be vaccinated. Dr. Fauci said yesterday if we can significantly increase the rate of vaccinations over the next few months, we have a good opportunity to blunt the spread of the Delta and other variants by the end of the year and begin 2020 in a much better place.
So many people have made so many sacrifices over the past year and a half. Family members and friends who've died from COVID-19, important milestones, family events that have had to be postponed or missed entirely, businesses that have suffered and even closed. This public health crisis demands that we all work together and do everything we can to stop the spread of the virus, to protect our family, friends, and neighbors, and restore our lives and economy. I'd like to see this board direct the CEO and human resources to develop a county policy for implementation of a vaccine mandate for county employees.
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I have a question for County Council. I understand that from the dais, we can direct staff to come back with something. Can you talk a little bit more about what that would look like? For the record, I'm not comfortable making that decision today but like to have a full hearing on it in the future but like to hear what you, what the protocol just and also for the public so they can understand that.
Sure, Mr. Chair and members of the board. The board has discretion to direct staff one of the items on today's agenda is to provide direction to staff if appropriate so you could provide direction to staff to develop a policy and then come back for your boards consideration.
And so that would be a resolution how exactly would something like that work especially in this context?
Mr. Chair, I believe that this would be just similar to other policies that the county adopts that applies to our employees so that would be my recommendation would be in the form of a county policy
is that is that something that we have to go back and work with our labor groups on discussing this and seems to be something that we would have to meet and confer with them and discuss this before moving forward is that correct?
Mr. Chair, there's some recent decisions on this and I believe that the county, the board has discretion to move forward with the policy but would need to meet and confer on the reasonable effects of that policy so that can be done before or after implementation of the policy.
Okay but it can be done after the but before implementation?
Let me rephrase that. It can be done before adoption of the policy, my recommendation would be not to fully implement until you've done the meet and confer.
All right thank you.
Thank you for that clarification.
All right thank you I think that was that's helpful. All right a supervisor I'll go back to Supervisor Hart then back and then to Supervisor Lavenino.
Actually I just wanted to begin the discussion amongst our colleagues and the public as well.
Okay, thank you Supervisor Hart. Supervisor Labanino?
Well I you know first off I don't even know what our current state is. I mean I don t know how many employees have already received a vaccination I think what's really encouraging, and I'm always more of a carrot as opposed to stick approach to things. And so I've seen what other places are doing to try to move people in that direction. I noticed this morning Cuesta College was offering students $250 gift card if they wanted to take the VAX. It's their call.
You know, I find something really interesting during these meetings. It always seems to me that the public that is the most well behaved for some reason is generally the ones I agree with. So last week I was congratulating everybody when we had our county workforce agreement of how the mood in the room even though we had two sides polar opposite fighting over their jobs and their livelihoods were able to maintain a sense of decorum And I just encourage folks, you guys are going to come up. You're having your say.
Not everybody's gonna agree with you. Not everybody is going to disagree with you state your opinion and I just ask you that I think it sells your message better honestly when people are more relaxed and more. More cordial to each other. You're upset that people feel like they're forcing something on The way to answer that is not, and I'm just trying to offer some advice somebody that's been up here a long time.
People that are able to get along and see somebody else's point without viscerally just attacking and trying to figure something out, I think get a lot more done. And in that vein, Demanding somebody take the vaccine for me is a step beyond what I want to do. I've seen in the county, I think 70% of the people have taken one shot already. That tells me that 70% of the people are okay with it and we just heard from Dr. Reynoso so that you know because of the fact that we just got the FDA approval. I've got a son myself that is like absolutely opposed to it until it was You know, until it's fully approved. So I just know one out of my own family and if Dr. Reynoso saying that you know she thinks that there could be 30,000 people that then moves our number considerably up so until I see a stagnation where we're not vaccinating anybody else.
I understand why you know your concerns there that you know that shows an example and leads by example first off. I wasn't prepared to discuss it today because I didn't see it on the agenda but just my personal First feeling on it is. You know, first off I don't know where what our number is at the county. And to be really, I think. I think it'd be tough on us that if 85% of our people are vaccinated that we mandate that last 15% get vaccinated every most of the presentations that we've had on COVID in the past or that if we can get Herd maybe it's just a little bit higher than that, that at some point we'll reach that herd immunity state. So I'm not happy with the path that we're on. I thought I was hoping more would join in and I understand why people are opposed to it as well.
So, I couldn't support that today but I'm also out there encouraging people to get that vaccination. Thank you Supervisor Labanino. Supervisor
Hartman?
Yes, I guess this is a question for Supervisor Hart and then a question for CEO Miyasato. If I heard you correctly, you said a vaccine mandate or regular testing? And so there is an option there. And CEO Miyasato if we gave direction today could you talk about the timing and what would be required
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Supervisor Hartman through the chair, so again we're talking about what we do for our employees. This is not the general public this is just the county employees. So a couple of things it depends on what course you take. So on the one hand there's two options really that other organizations have taken. One is just mandating a vaccine except for those who have religious or health exemptions And that's what the state has done. And I think that's what some of the frustration is, but the state has required that for health care workers, folks serving in institutions and the state has given hard deadlines and so that's beyond our control. The state has done that for certain types of workers. If the Board wanted to do that route, we would work with HR and HR would probably then have to – we would get that information out and work with HR what – to figure out the logistics.
I know they would like more time to figure out the logistics and so I think their preference would be in the fall, October or November. For the second one, the second avenue that some of the organizations are doing is requiring proof of vaccination or being subjected to regular testing. The testing would be covered by the county and the time to take the test as well. And so that's another option.
Again, we would have to work with the departments to see who isn't and then implementing that testing. HR has found a path on how to do either of those. HR is ready to do that. I'm looking for Yvonne. Is she still here? No, she's left. So I think we would probably say that could be started probably, I would say within a month less time for the board wanted to do that.
We know that for those departments that were subject to the state health order It's changed over time. And so for some, for mental health and public health, for example, or some of our criminal justice departments where there was already a requirement they're already requiring testing. And so we know there's a protocol and that would be trying to have that protocol for the remainder of the county employees who are not vaccinated. So, I'm sorry HR isn't here today. I know that they would appreciate more time to do that and also as County Council said we would have to meet and confer about the impacts until before the hard deadline is passed. We would meet and confer with our employees or bargaining units about the impacts
Thank you. So what I take away from that is if we want to explore this path and get more information, we would want to start sooner rather than later. You know schools require vaccines on a regular basis but to my knowledge that's not ever been something that the county government has done But the county under California Emergency Services Act, all county workers are emergency workers. And so if there's an earthquake, a fire, a debris flow or any other kind of natural disaster or man-made disaster it's county workers who have to step up even if it means that they're not home with their families.
And I believe that vaccination today is really part of emergency preparedness. We've already had one county office that had to close down because so many people had COVID and that denies services to the public that they really need. So I'm inclined to support exploring this further because we don't want a situation where we have a major fire and we have people who need a lot of support, and we have a COVID crisis on top of it.
And so I believe as emergency workers, as local government we have a duty to be vaccinated. As an example and really to be able to be willing and able if we're needed if we're called into disaster service. So that's my thinking on the matter.
All right. Thank you Supervisor Hartman, Supervisor Hart and Supervisor Williams if you still want to make a comment?
Yeah I really appreciate Supervisor Lavaneno's points, Supervisor Hartman's really well thought remarks and CEO Miyasato's you know, path for how we can evolve this conversation. You know my intent is to start the dialogue and obviously we have to have another hearing to adopt something so there's going to be an opportunity for all the details to be worked out and this conversation I think will help flesh out the best way to proceed but my reason for doing this is timed specifically to the Federal Drug Administration's adoption or evaluation of the COVID-19 vaccine. I think that is a significant milestone many many people have been saying You know, we can't move forward on a vaccine mandate until we get that out of the experimental status.
We're there now and you know the conversation about getting people to vaccinate is taking on a greater urgency with the Delta variant. We all know this. We all know that this is the path to getting back to a sense of normalcy and I just want to help us add to the sense of urgency because this is a public health crisis. This public health Disease outbreaks like this are really significant and there is a long-standing body of law that has existed for very long time to contain disease outbreaks.
Public school children are required to get many vaccinations to eliminate and stop the threat of serious Diseases that have afflicted our community and historically. You can't get into public school without getting a polio vaccine, diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis, measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis B, chicken pox, hemophilias influenza type b. The reality of our modern world is this is now to that level of concern And requires intervention in an aggressive way to stop the spread of this continuously raging virus.
And we need to do our part together with our state and federal partners, to ensure that our community is best protected as we can be.
Thank you Supervisor Hart.
Supervisor Williams, you still have a comment? I've given this matter a whole lot of thought and I'm happy to share my thoughts but I'm going to wait for public comment.
Okay. Yeah, and Supervisor Lavinio?
Yeah, I just wanted to be if there's going to be direction on that to also look at um I'm curious what the cost uh associated I know there's costs for not doing it but also the cost of you know if we're picking up the costs for testing And we've got a thousand employees that aren't vaccinated and decide they don't want to get vaccinated. And we're going to be requiring testing, you know I don't know if it's on a weekly or bi-weekly basis that what that could run us into.
Thank you Supervisor Labadino. CO Miyasato?
Chair Nelson, this Yvonne Torres is here from HR and if I could just ask her to answer that one question to confirm. If you could come up here Yvonne quickly there's just so that I'm clear and we'll bring this back with more information but it said the timeliness of either doing two those tracks if we did the testing track how soon could HR get that up and going?
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do the testing and it was fine. And there's trailers in Santa Maria, Santa Barbara where we can drop off the test. And so excuse me I'm out of breath I ran from next door but anyways. So we've already established a process in the event that this might happen and so HR is ready to move forward.
All right and thank you and I did have for the public or up in Santa Maria watching on TV I didn't have Miss Torres' mic on but It's a state program that's not going to have any additional cost to the county at this point.
For the testing, there will be no costs through the public health department and the only cost would be purchasing the machines for the departments and that was a small cost.
All right. Thank you. All right, we're going to go ahead and go to public comment. I do have some comments as well and definitely some thoughts about a mandated vaccination for our employees that are probably contrary to some of my colleagues but it will get into that little bit further after public comments. So with that Madam Clerk, I believe we have 20 public commenters.
Chair Nelson members of the board with an update. We have 19 requests to speak
all right.
And we will begin on zoom with Dr. Sue Anderson to be followed by Dr. Amy Smith.
Hi, this is Sue Anderson. Can you hear me?
We can.
Okay, great. And it's it's Sue Anderson, I appreciate being called doctor but I'll leave that to the professional physicians. You know, I just want all of our employees here at Marion Regional Medical Center to know that we appreciate their point of view. We thank them for all they're doing for our patients right now. I mean throughout the pandemic and right now we're frankly inundated with COVID patients about 90% of those patients are unvaccinated. We encourage our community to get vaccinated and help us combat the COVID-19 infections that we're dealing with.
Unfortunately, it's on the rise in our community. We're seeing many more cases in the North County than what Santa Barbara is experiencing right now or the South County. The point is, right now we are under a state vaccination mandate. And Dignity Health just like all other hospitals and healthcare institution in the state are required to have all employees vaccinated by September 30th.
So we're committed to providing a safe environment for our patients, our staff and providers We're requiring vaccines for our teams. We're following the state mandate and as health care providers, we have a responsibility to help and help to end this pandemic. So by requiring the COVID vaccine as a condition of employment just like we do the flu vaccine right now and just like we've been mandated by the state were proactively trying to protect our community So that's all I wanted to indicate is that this is a state order.
It's more than a decision that a local hospital can make and all hospitals in our state are under this mandate, and we're supportive of it. And we are going to follow the mandate and have our employees vaccinated by September 30th if they don't have exemptions.
Great, thank
you.
Thank you. Thank you Miss Anderson.
We will remain on Zoom with Dr. Amy Smith to be followed by Ashley Smith.
Dr. Smith, are you ready?
Yes. Can you hear me?
We can.
Okay, great. I appreciate Dr. Answorth answering some of my questions but I do want to say that people are very concerned that we're not being heard and listened to and answered about very serious changes to our society You know, forcing people to undergo a brand new technology that has not been proliferated out into the public in the past that has no long-term track record as far as how it affects people in the long term. Cancers take a long time to develop and infant won't be testing out their fertility for years to come you know, in utero person, you know like these things will not be known for at least a decade and possibly more These are very concerning things with the new technology. And saying that all required FDA tests have been satisfied, as far as I know this is the first vaccine to be licensed if it even was formally licensed without completing phase three trials and vaccine trials for anyone who's looked into this are not as rigorous as pharmaceutical trials.
They are not required to be for example against a placebo and there were many other loopholes due to the nature of the vaccine program which has been outside Pharmaceuticals and granting things such as liability protection for the corporations that make vaccines which is very disturbing. So you know when doctor answer says that there's no evidence of harming fertility, I'm sure he is quite aware of the expression that evidence of absence is not the same thing is absence of evidence so just because you don't have evidence of a harm if it's not possible to have that evidence yet because the time period has not elapsed then that is an empty statement that that is can give no confidence to a reasonable person.
I learned this in public policy course at MIT from a wonderful Professor Nick Ashford, and he spoke very respectfully of consumer advocate Ralph Nader. He was an outside person who is standing up for the interests of the people who weren't profiting from the products. Well where is the Ralph Nader on the vaccine issue? On the health data issues? Well, actually there are many Ralph Naders but you're not really allowed to hear from them. They're getting deplatformed, censored from Twitter, fired from their jobs. There's Dr. Malone, Dr. Pierre Khoury, Dr. Richard Fleming, Dr Herit Vanderbosch, Dr Michael Yeadon, Dr Byron Brittle, Dr Sukharit Bhakti and many, many more and you do not get to hear from these people because they're censored from social media, they're censored from YouTube, they're censored from Twitter, they're fired from their jobs And this is very, very chilling.
That is not how science is conducted. Tenure is supposed to be there to protect the alternative positions that are not bought into the powerful and that is a very important role that universities have played and it's being damaged. And I hope science can recover but this is not good science. So people feel very frustrated and silenced and when people compare to totalitarian systems in the past And Supervisor Williams dismisses that or is even offended, well that is someone's experience and feeling. Why don't you ask them why they say
that? Thank you Dr. Smith for your comments. That is your time.
We will now go to Ashley Smith to be followed by Andy Caldwell.
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Hi good morning can you hear me? Awesome. My name is Ashley Smith, I'm a mom of four and a wife to a fireman in Santa Barbara County. I'm here to voice my opinion and concern about the county's response and operations in regards to COVID-19. I firstly want to thank our first responders for working tirelessly during these ever changing times for showing up to work day after day, and for the care love and compassion that they have shown to the citizens throughout Santa Barbara County.
I have been anxiously watching throughout the state as other counties have began mandating the COVID vaccine for city and county employees. This mandate decision in other counties was made out of panic and panic is toxic to civil liberties. A force mandate does not educate, it does not develop trust and it does not protect human dignity. It is my hope that the County of Santa Barbara fights back stands up leads by example and does not mandate this vaccine.
Mandates have continuously been spun as an us versus them issue, be it political affiliation or vaccinated versus unvaccinated. In actuality this is a civil liberty issue and because we are all American we are all entitled to our civil rights and liberties The right to bodily integrity and to refuse unwanted medical treatment is deeply rooted in the historical traditions of the United States. This is supported in the Constitution, several federal laws including ADA.
It teeters on Jim Crow law and is opposed by the Equal Opportunity Commission based on these laws Counties do not have the legality to mandate this vaccine. You have at least 30% of firefighters in this county that will not take the vaccine, at least four to five doctors in this county who will also not take the vaccine. A pandemic is not the time to deal with staff changes. There is no substitute list for these types of jobs, you cannot readily fill these positions in a timely manner with an individual who has the experience or expertise To perform in these types of work consistently during a pandemic. It takes time, money and experience to train first responders. You don't need a mandate what you need right now are the best of the best. The trained and experienced to get this county through the pandemic.
Let the first responders continue to govern themselves and make their own policies, because you know what? It worked. The regimens that the different departments have in place are working and will continue to work. Let the first responders work. Let them run the call. Support civil liberties. Support My Body, My Choice. And don't mandate this vaccine for county employees. Thank you.
Thank you, Ms. Smith.
We will now go to Andy Caldwell to be followed by Justin Shores.
Chair Nelson, members of the board, Andy Caldwell representing COLAB. You know you got a on again off again yin yang thing going here last week or the week before you guys said we want to hear from the public. We want to answer their questions And yet then when we do, Dr. Ansorg says you're all wrong. It's all misinformation, it's disinformation. So what you have here is not a board hearing room, it's an echo chamber.
From day one and to this day, you will not distinguish between a case which is asymptomatic versus an actual illness nor will you recognize natural immunity. Dr. Ansorg is way off there are Hundreds of doctors around the world and there's dozens of studies speaking to natural immunity is the only thing that really works against the variant. Here's the bottom line, here is your problem. The vaccine does not stop the spread and it doesn't stop infection. Even you have to admit there are breakthrough cases And what's really insulting to these nurses and firefighters and other people, they deal in emergency situations with things much worse, much more deadly, much more infectious than COVID.
Much more yet they have to get a shot to keep doing their job? Supervisor Hart you should be really truly be ashamed of yourself Go talk to these nurses and deal with, talk with them about what infectious diseases they work with on a daily basis. But should they make a mistake? They're dead. Not merely a case. You know the bottom line is if you're gonna mandate the workers at hospitals to be vaxxed when are you going to start requiring the patients to be vaccinated?
You know there's somebody in LA said if you're not vaxxed, you shouldn't be able to buy groceries. You still will not distinguish hospitalized with or from COVID. The studies were poorly done. They did not keep their control group. They vaxxed the control group. So now the general population that is un-vaxxed is the only control group we have. I tell people if you want to get the vaccination Get it. If you're elderly with comorbidities, get it. The rest of us should be free. We have a right to try and a right to die law that we don't have a right to not be vaccinated.
Either the masks work or they don't work. Make up your mind because you send a different mixed signal each and every week that you talk about this. These people have been in the front lines when there was no vaccination. Trust them that they'll continue to be safe, even if there is and they don't want to get it. Thank you.
Thank you Mr. Caldwell.
We will now go to Justin Shores to be followed by Thomas Becker.
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Hi thank you can hear me? I'm going to echo what Andy was saying. You guys are intelligent people, but you discourage them and you disparage them with your comments by saying your misinformation. You guys really need to listen to the community and not to the federal government, okay? If there's so many people unvaccinated, most of these people are smart. You haven't convinced them yet.
One thing I ran for office, one thing I learned was 80% of our community is uninformed which we have other things on our mind. We're not dealing with politics like So we trust you. And we want you guys to make a good decision, but now all these people are having to get involved because you guys have gone so far. I mean, people are in distress everywhere. They don't know whether they're going to have a job. You don't know what to do with their kids.
We're in distress and it's because of your responses to COVID not because of COVID. I mean, we're so lucky we're not in Australia where they're going even crazier You guys have to realize what you are doing. We're not Trump supporters, we're your community, okay? You need to wake up, listen to us, listen to these doctors from your community who are dealing with it every day!
Dr. Ansorg, have an open forum. Let's talk with our doctors. I'll bring 10 local doctors from town to your forum, Dr. Ansorg. Before we kill more people with these treatments Okay, can we just have a conversation? Because here we are listening to you every single time saying you're liars. You doctors and nurses, you're liars. You can't speak here. You have no platform here.
But guess what? We're having to do something. We're not going to just take this. You haven't convinced us. I'm talking to doctors who are seeing the opposite of what Dr. Ansorg is saying. So who do I trust? Do I trust the federal government? Do I trust the government who's just trying to force these things on us without discourse, without an open discussion.
The FDA approved high fructose corn syrup. You think they care about our health? The only solutions you guys are providing are a mask and a vaccine when there's hundreds of other things that we could be doing for our health right now We could be exercising more. Why hasn't Dr. Ansford ever mentioned that? He says vaccine or mask, that's all you can do. That's the only thing you could do.
It's frustrating guys. I wish there was transparency DAS. I wish there was maybe a purpose. Maybe the Nazis would be stunned right now when they look back. Maybe they would be stunned and they would say, why are these people saying this? What did I do wrong? So maybe they thought everything was fine going along with all the stuff that Hitler was doing. Thank you,
Mr. Shores. Thank you for your time.
We will now go to Thomas Becker to be followed by Jeffrey Schwartz.
Thank you. Can you hear me? We can. First off, I just want to say that I resubmitted a letter that I sent to the FDA and submitted as part of public comment but it wasn't posted as a public comment. So I resubmitted that letter and wanted to let you all know that its existence. Supervisor Williams! You know that that speaker talking about genocide was not talking about the mask mandate. He was talking about the vaccine mandate.
And he was actually correct History shows and to prove that the Nazis first described the Jews as infected, diseased rats. That's how they originally described the Jews and that's how they were able to legally compel or have to get laws preventing Jews from entering public spaces and forcing Jews to wear a yellow star David on their sleeve That was the original Nazi logic.
And they said, you're like diseased rats that we're gonna keep you out of the public areas and we're gonna force you to wear a yellow star. Read your history Mr. Williams. Now, the FDA did not conduct clinical trials for Delta variant effectiveness for the Pfizer vaccine Dr. Peter Marks, Director of the Center of Biologic Evaluation for the Food and Drug Administration admitted that yesterday in a phone interview. And that phone interview is on the FDA Twitter if you want to go and listen to it.
This newly approved Pfizer vaccine I'm repeating this Has not undergone any clinical trial for its effectiveness in preventing infection or transmission of the Delta virus variant. Zero! It's only been tested for the original COVID strain. Now, Elected, excuse me. Employers and elected officials are not protected from civil liability if a vaccine mandate is based on information that they know is false.
And you people all five of you know that the information you're being provided that this vaccine is effective against Delta, you know that that is false and you're not protected from civil liability for an act of malice. Get that? Finally, legally you can only mandate a vaccine if it actually works to prevent the spread of a disease. Legally you can't mandate a vaccine if it doesn't stop the spread of a communicable disease and this vaccine does not.
And to everybody out there we better unite because united we stand divided we fall and the Jews in Germany learned that lesson the hard way thank you Thank
you Mr. Becker.
We will now go to Jeffrey Schwartz to be followed by Grace Wallace.
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Can you hear me? We can, Mr. Schwartz. In response to my comment on May 18th your medical officer Dr. Ansorg gave the following statement to this board. Dr. Ansorg said quote There is not a single reputable immunologist or virologist who disputes the validity of our testing platforms. And he was referring to platforms which include the so-called PCR tests. That statement Dr. Ansorg made is clearly and provably false. Contrary to what he said, there are several reputable immunologists or virologists who have disputed the validity of the PCR testing platform. An extensive review report disputing the validity of this test was officially submitted to Euro Surveillance Editorial Board November 27, 2020. This was signed by not one reputable immunologist or virologist but by three including Professor Mikado Okashi PhD, Professor Emeritus in Microbiology and Immunology Tokushima University, Dr.
Ruth Schrufer Ph.D., Immunologist Munich Germany Professor Dr. Ulrich Kammerer, virologist and immunologist, University Hospital, Würzburg, Germany. In addition it was also signed by several other reputable and highly educated scientists and physicians. Their report clearly disputes the validity of the PCR test with the following comments. This practice is categorized as compromising scientific integrity The PCR test is not indicated for COVID-19 diagnosis. The test cannot be used as a diagnostic for SARS viruses. The protocol is useless as a specific diagnostic tool, PCR data after a CT value of 35 cycles are completely unreliable only noninfectious dead viruses are detected with CT values of 35 or more these all right. This report can be seen on the internet, tinyurl.com slash PM9M7HW3.
How can Dr. Ansorg claim that these scientists are not reputable when they are academic specialists in fields related to pandemics and Dr. Ansorg is not? That statement, Dr. Ansorg, that there's no provable sciences, it's clearly and provably false his statement For your top medical officer to give false information to this board should be considered a serious offense. I want an immediate apology by Dr. Anzor and I'm asking you to replace him for making a false statement in front of this board. Sensitivity and specificity reconsidered the meaning of these terms in analytical and diagnostic settings, Annals of Internal Medicine 1997. It says an analytical An assay's analytical sensitivity and analytical specificity are distinct from that the clinical diagnostic sensitivity and diagnostic specificity.
It says imprecise usage of the term sensitivity and specificity produces- Thank you, Mr. Schwartz.
That was your time.
We will now go to Grace Wallace then we're going to return to Santa Barbara with Dr. Gretchen Murray
Ms. Walson, you're ready.
Grace, you can proceed with your
comments. Share my concerns at such a critical time deciding if our Bill of Rights which have served us over 200 years will continue or will we go with a governing method of China communists? You sit in a seat with the authority that the citizens have entrusted you with to make the best decision to protect the public and their freedoms based on facts Based on science, and science is not political. According to the our local news leading up to the current lockdown that the hospital was filled with with filled up due to the Delta variant. They noted that there were five cases per 100,000 which is actually point 005%. Yet it was called a outbreak I was Also informed by medical personnel that there are nine COVID patients in Santa Barbara College Hospital, zero in serious condition.
Based on 2020 population of 91,686 it is a 0.0098% chance of getting COVID. According to Fox News we have over 11,000 migrants coming across the border to McClellan Texas with 15%, Testing positive for COVID. But you agree to lock us down, breaking public trust? What's wrong with this picture? Science is not political. The mask mandates are not based on science and we know that very well because of the Thomas fire. To refresh your memory, we had to wear the N95 masks as the smoke particle was 0.2 and a cough mask was useless. The virus particle is even smaller, weighing in at 1%. So certainly if the cloth mask was not good against the smoke at two particles it is definitely no match worthless against the 0.1 particle COVID virus. Don't take my word for it reading from an email from Dr.
Fauci to Silver Burl on February 5th 2020 quote The typical mass you buy in the drugstore is not really effective and keeping out virus which is small enough to pass through the material in the quote now. Now that you are aware and possess, do you possess the integrity that you swore in on behalf of the public to call off the mass and vaccinate vaccine mandates which are based on science according to your own Dr. Fauci? Science is not We will now return to Santa Barbara with Dr. Gretchen Murray to be followed by Tyler Smith.
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I put doctor there. I have a PhD in pharmacology from UCLA, so I have more than 30 years experience working for different medical product manufacturers and I have significant number of products that have gone through the FDA review and been approved. So I wanted to, next slide please, go through some of the information for you folks to be aware of where we are with even the Pfizer vaccine and I do have a copy of their new package insert so first of all what we know about this our vaccine is the first time mRNA has ever been put in humans okay A regular vaccine, the Novavax is a protein and that to me I would take. This one because it's brand new, I am afraid of it being said where I stand. What we don't know what they have not told us is where does it go once they get in the body?
My understanding is you get it in the shot in the shoulder and then nobody knows where it goes. They don't know how its metabolized. They don't tell us. They don't tell us how long it stays in the body They don't tell how we get rid of it. Again, the expectation of duration, the half-life, they have not reported it. Fertility, the ability to get pregnant and to carry progeny to full term, they've done one rat study, that's it on females.
There is no, you know, rat, mouse, dog, monkey testing that's being reported so we don't know what effect it has Teratogenicity, what is it causing damage to the fetus? We all remember thalidomide. And we have in every case that I am aware of any drug being brought forward since 1953 we have told pregnant women to stay away from it. So there's mutagenicity, carcinogenicity studies again not done. Next slide please.
So there are benefits to immunization and I agree that there are people who've gotten the shot, who like getting the shot and feel a whole lot more comfortable with doing it. Wonderful for them. The thing is the incidence rate initially is probably pretty good but it doesn't prevent infection completely. Potentially life saving for people with comorbidities again The placebo group's too small to be able to tell.
Prevent future transmission from patients that are already inoculated, they can still get sick, they can still transmit it so it doesn't prevent it. Next one please. Okay the VAERS database and this is where I will differ from Dr. Ansorg. The VAERS database is voluntary. That means that people only report into it when they feel they must And the underreporting is probably in the close of about 10%.
When it comes to the blood clots, it may not be each one of these vaccines. It may be a specific one that causes it but it can be deadly. You get strokes from it, you get heart disease from it. You can
die. Thank you Dr. Murray. That is your time. Okay
and our next speaker is Tyler Smith to be followed by Michael Moore.
Okay, hello. My name is Tyler Smith. I've been a firefighter in the area for about 20 years. I come before you today as an informed citizen to talk to you about some of the issues that we faced over the last 18 months. This all started as two weeks to slow the spread but it has turned into 18 months and it is starting to ramp back up The population is exhausted, divided and scared.
There are legitimate reasons for this and some illegitimate reasons too. Yes we have a bad virus infecting our population that has been difficult but we have also seen the drastic consequences of an apparent never-ending lockdown. We have seen an increase in alcohol and drug abuse domestic violence and depression I would like to bring you some info on why first the news in 2012 the National Defense Authorization Act was amended to allow propaganda. The amendment nullified the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948, which explicitly forbids information psychological operations aimed at influencing the U.S. public opinion. The media can now effectively lie to the American people.
We are one of the only countries that allows the pharmaceutical industry to advertise on TV. The pharmaceutical industry is the number one purchaser of ad space on the network news. Do you ever wonder why you see never-ending pharmaceutical commercials during the news? That's why. The pharmaceutical industry is the number three lobbying power in the USA. They also contribute large sums of money to the CDC, the FDA and our public health officials' agencies.
Pfizer's profits this year are estimated to be $33.5 billion. That's a 59% increase. They also have zero liability from damages from these vaccines. In 1986, they passed the Vaccine Compensation Act. They cannot be sued for damages. The thing that concerns me is if this is ever mandated, whoever mandates this, whoever the companies or agencies that do, they are liable. The pharmaceutical industry is not.
At this point, it only has a 40% effective rate and it does not stop the spread. We should never mandate anything that does not stop the spread. The PCR test has just failed its review, according to the CDC website. I hope you fact check me on this. The FDA identified it as a class one recall but they're still using it till the end of the year and why don't we hear this in news? Also, the PCR test is giving two different tests, one for vaccinated, one for unvaccinated. The vaccinated people, the cycles are turned down to 25 to 28 and the unvaccinated people are turned up to 40 to 45.
Like I said, I hope you fact check me on this also really quick. This is the Cal OSHA guidelines for going to work. It states that an unvaccinated person can be screened not tested. It's in black and white and I have it photocopied or highlighted. I can give it to you It says that we can be screened, which is a temperature check and a health questionnaire. That's very reasonable and I think in this time we need to just excess caution and level headiness like Representative Levinino was saying. Thank you Mr. Smith for your comments and thank you for your
service.
We will now go to Michael Moore to be followed by Faye Brandmeier
2:43 – 2:5011 turns
All right, thanks board. My name is Michael Moore. I work for the Santa Barbara County Fire Department. I've been employed with them for the past 13 years. I'm speaking today in strong opposition to any kind of mandate involving COVID-19 not just for our employees or citizens in our county but for everybody worldwide this is tyranny and it's knocking on our doorsteps It's unfathomable to me that any person can say it's okay for them to force a medical procedure, a vaccine in this case on another human being. We have mandates being discussed right here in this county but there are seven employers who don't even consider a vaccine mandate. The White House, the CDC, the FDA, the WHO and then all three of the top vaccine Johnson & Johnson, Moderna And Pfizer, let that sink in the you are talking about mandating vaccine for our employees yet those companies aren't even discussing it.
This isn't a political issue, it's not a race issue, it's not a social status issue. This is a human rights issue with the ability to choose what's best for one's own health and one's own body. When you start thinking in history when have we seen this type of tyranny? It's very apparent to me when you look just north and south of us what those counties are doing. California is quickly shaping up the way Nazi Germany started.
First it was slow the curve, let's don't overwhelm the hospitals and resources. Now 18 months later show us your papers if you want to continue working shopping or function in society. So when is this going to stop after how many boosters and vaccines are people gonna have to take before they finally wake up? August 18th the CDC came out with this statement individuals who have been previously vaccinated will now be at risk of severe illness Unless they obtained the mandatory booster. How frightening is that? It almost sounds to me like they didn't get a vaccine in the first place.
Sounded like they got a shot of something, and now they have to have another shot at something for that. The Nuremberg Code 1947 tells us this, the judgment by the War Crimes Tribunal at Nuremberg laid ten standards to which physicians must conform when carrying out experiments. I'm going to skip down to the number one statement from the permissible medical experiments.
The voluntary consent of a human subject is absolutely essential. The voluntary consent is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent and exercise free power of choice without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress or overreaching or any other ulterior forms of constraint or coercion.
I strongly recommend each one of you board members to do a self-evaluation. We have the chance to be on the right side of history You can make this county the, hold on one second. Forget what that is. You can make this county be the gold standard. Make other counties look up to us. Let's be on the right side of all this because if you don't I promise you two things will happen.
One, you will suffer a loss in your workforce and not only from the fire, I will personally be willing to walk from my job. You'll have nurses, you'll have doctors- Ms. Moore you
wrap up here real quick Can
you wrap
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I'll wrap it up. So the last thing right here is don't be associated with a Nazi regime. If we implement this, I see no difference in how Hitler and the SS ran Germany than how this county state will be
run. Thank you Mr. Moore for your time.
We will now go to Faye Brandmeier to be followed by Chris Arringer.
Thank you for this opportunity to comment That being said, we have sent over 500 affidavits to you – the Board of Supervisors, the Health Director, the Health Officer and Sheriff from the citizens of Santa Barbara. However, we have not received one response from not one of these 500 affidavits. Your failure of accountability is unfathomable to me How there is no due process even in a proposed state of emergency.
Where's the integrity? We have sent these affidavits citing with each account of your failure to protect your constituents, the codes of law, links to professional peer-reviewed medical testimonies and Senate hearings. These references show that all COVID measures are completely unsubstantiated. The masks cannot keep out microscopic viral droplets, but do keep in the larger bacteria that become trapped in our mouth nose and lungs the specific areas that COVID initially affects if that is something We're not willing to understand, simply read the warning on every mask available to purchase stating that it does not protect from virus and pathogen.
Furthermore, the COVID vaccines are also completely unwarranted. The Code of Law for Emergency Use Authorization 21 U.S. Code 360 BBB 3 Authorization for Medical Products for Use in Emergencies states The criteria for issuance of authorization is that there's no adequate, approved and available alternative to the product for diagnosing, preventing or treating such disease or condition. However, there has been adequate, approved and available medicine available the entire time.
Ivermectin studies can be found at covid19criticalcare.com Again, COVID-19criticalcare.com. Additionally Google the Lancet L A N C E T one of the top medical journals in the world and see the retraction of their article falsely stating hydroxychloroquine is not effective in treating COVID. Because you have not done your due diligence as our Board of Supervisors we have been subjected to completely unwarranted mandates, lockdowns, societal isolation, five-fold increase in childhood suicides. The terrorizing of families and communities lost jobs businesses daunting pressure to receive this experimental COVID injection for ourselves and our children and the threat of internment camps In the last day, I have witnessed two testimonies from medical doctors stating the exact effects of the COVID injections which I cannot repeat here.
That is your time. Thank you.
I just want to say I ask all of you listening to decide individually for yourselves what is indeed misinformation? Thank you.
We will now go to Chris Arringer to be followed by Damian Vasquez.
2:50 – 2:584 turns
Good morning, Board of Supervisors. My name is Chris Arringer. I'm affiliated with IAFF Local 525. I work for Santa Barbara City and I'm here to stand up before you and make an impassioned appeal for choice. All right? I feel like this is pivotal. It's a pivotal part of our society and that's where true value lies. Okay? Yes, we have a medical situation on our hands but we also have a political situation on our hands that is impacting us all personally And this thing is advancing incrementally and it does not appear to want to stop. There are minds, there are personalities, there are people behind these things. It's not just a virus that is faceless and nameless all right?
Okay so there are not tens, there are not hundreds, they're actually thousands of physicians that have credentials that are equal to those that are advocating vaccination And they stand in opposition because they've done due diligence. They have come to conclusions that are separate and different from those that stand in advocacy, right? There are things happening to people right now with regards to the vaccinations that they have received and their numbers are not small In mid-June, I ran across numbers from the CDC that were published and said there were 463,000 adverse cases. All right?
Now we immediately if we're smart, we make a comparison against the backdrop of a population that is upwards of 300 million in this country alone. Okay? But those numbers are not small and it doesn't stop with those numbers. There will be additional adverse cases. Okay. Fatality numbers It was mentioned by Dr. Ansort and the other woman from the county who recently spoke, and I want to just briefly reference the fact that she was given a full 12 minutes plus and we get three okay? And understand that this is sort of your venue but you know what it's not really your venue so I think that there needs to be greater representation given to the public but to return to the point There are things happening with regard to these vaccinations and these companies that are producing them, that the American public never imagined they would have to endure.
Okay? The COVID problem is statistically not enough of an issue to warrant what we've been subjected to in terms of lockdowns, in terms of mask wearing, in terms of potential vaccination mandates Right, and this is where my concerns and considerations actually lie. I've been on the job for 28 years. I've served my department faithfully. I have no problem on record anywhere right? I'm the one who picks off people off the street for various reasons. I'm the one who enters into your households and helps you.
when you're medically down and having trouble. When your house catches fire, I'm the one who's there for you. When the brush up on the hillside is going up in flames, all right? And your homes are threatened, I am there for you. Are you there for me? Are you there for the other guys who are here sitting before you and asking you, look, weigh in on this reasonably, okay? I wanna make the point very quickly. Quickly. I wanna make a point very quickly.
This is an OSHA guideline You can stand up to a guideline, all right? This is not a law. It's coming at us under the color of law but it is not law. And yes, it's bandied about as though it is. I'll yield.
We will now go to Damian Vasquez to be followed by Amy Blair.
Hello, my name is Damon Vasquez. I'm a public servant but I'm here today as an informed citizen. This comment is to steer you clear of COVID-19 injection mandates for the people of Santa Barbara County first of all in the United States of America we have the freedom of choice matters of health doctors work for the people they are paid for service and the people can deny ignore and get a second opinion on any doctor's medical recommendation Parents want their children to attend public school. They must have their children immunized against many diseases, terrible diseases that cause many illnesses and deaths with proven vaccines. The COVID-19 injection was something that was approved in record time for emergency youth authorization.
There is no emergency. We see it every day there's not an emergency out there. There's not a public health crisis. Some people have an illness and those people are seeking medical care and they're getting better for the most part If the word emergency is to be thrown around lightly or incorrectly, then there are no emergencies in this nation and this county according to the CDC larger than heart disease.
Heart disease can largely be attributed to lifestyle coupled with obesity. Where's the board's position on heart disease and obesity? Are you mandating that refined sugars and saturated fats be outlawed in this county? Or are you mandating the people exercise and get outside daily? No, because that is their choice to live their lives in a harmful way. In 2019 heart disease was 13 times more likely to kill someone than influenza and pneumonia.
Concerning COVID, in 2020 approximately 377,000 deaths of COVID-19 was underlying or contributing cause those two qualifiers can vary widely Can vary widely and to use them in conjunction is misleading. Just because a person dies of COVID doesn't mean they died of COVID, correct? Still heart disease nearly doubled the fatalities of COVID-19 of Americans in 2020.
Speaking for healthcare workers, many and most do not fall into the most susceptible groups of COVID-19. Elderly, obese, diabetic, hypertensive and many other comorbidities. I'm a healthy 42 year old who has not had a single COVID- 19 symptom since this endemic started is no longer pandemic. Secondly, the injection many governing bodies and workplaces are now mandating is losing efficacy daily. The CDC director herself said that the vaccines do not stop people from transmitting the disease and I have the article with a quote that quote so why contemplate a mandate?
Use logic to make this decision. Do not rely on the possibly or probably influenced by money Power of both. If the people of Santa Barbara County each contracted COVID-19, 99.5% or more of them would survive. Many of them wouldn't know they have it so it must not be bad enough to mandate an experimental injection correct? Also if that many people survived then it must not be bad enough to mandate and experimental injection correct? This is not an argument Against vaccination my children, wife and I have all received dozens of vaccinations. It's not for a political party this is an argument for freedom. Freedom granted to the people by the Constitution of the United States, the Constitution in the state of California and granted to me by God Almighty you should not attempt to overrule any of those entities give the people what they deserve the freedom of choice.
Thank you Mr. Vasquez.
We will now go to Amy Blair to be followed by Irene Martinez
2:58 – 3:056 turns
Hi everybody. I'm Amy Blair, just a resident not a nurse, not a doctor. I don't even have kids and I am fighting for this fight. I am dying. I am going to die on this hill. This is scary. Ancestral Jewish trauma and I just see it coming in that direction and I'm fighting so I am going to go ahead and finish what the other doctor was saying about the myocarditis and pericarditis This is going to affect the younger men, the 40s and younger who are in the firefighters, the military everybody.
Post-marketing data demonstrate increased risk of myocarditis and pericarditis particularly within seven days following the second dose The observed risk is higher among males under 40 years of age than among females and older males. The observed risk is highest in males 12 through 17 years of age, although some cases required intensive care support available data from short-term follow up suggests that most individuals have had resolution of symptoms with conservative management. Information is not yet available about potential long-term sequelae. The CDC has published considerations related to myocarditis and pericarditis after vaccination, including the vaccination of individuals with a history of myocarditis and pericardiitis. That's at www.cdc.gov vaccines blah blah blah.
And I'm also going to refinish what Faye was saying that If this isn't making sense to you all, if you check all of the cases of pneumonia, flus, deaths everything in the past years 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017 they're all the same. There's not like a gigantic killer out there, the mortuaries don't have an insane amount of deaths all of a sudden. There's nothing to be scared of. It's all manufactured by the media and if you'd have any cognitive dissonance, you would notice that. And treating each other... You guys said in the beginning, I'm so grateful for this civility and camaraderie we have amongst us. I don't see that at all.
There's cruelty, hastiness. I go into Lazy Acres and usually everyone is like talking to each other. Everyone is just walking past each other like zombies. It breaks my heart. Everyone is dehumanized, desensitized. This is like an MKL Ultra experiment on society and it scares the living daylights out of me. And there's all these pages. Oh my God! I can go through every single one of these. It's all junk, junk, junk.
Let's see. Thank you. Take a breath. People say there's the myth that there's only been thousands of deaths and why is there a lawsuit right now in court from a whistleblower in the bears that says there's actually been over 50,000 deaths? That's a fact. That's not a myth. There's a lawsuit right now check it out. I spent all my day, all my time waking hours. I don't even sleep these days. I'm busy researching all these myths because I'm like am I crazy and then I go into there's research. No, I'm not crazy it's there why aren't you guys going that? I want you guys to protect us because you are elected to protect us and I pray that you use your cognitive dissonance in this time.
Thank you Ms.
Blair.
You will now go to Irene Martinez to be followed by Sean Kaufman
Hello,
thank you for this opportunity to speak. My name is Irene and I'm a psychologist who has worked with children under the age of 18 for over 10 years. What I have seen over the last year and a half is absolutely devastating. Never in my career have I seen so many depressed, anxious or suicidal children. I have watched straight A students begin to fail every single one of their classes.
I have seen students who hated going to school beg to be able to return to in-person learning. I have seen little girls as young as 11 years old begin to self harm because they are so depressed and fearful that they are now contemplating suicide. We all know that it's a fact that suicide rates among children and all ages has skyrocketed in the last 18 months, and suicide is killing more children than COVID ever has.
Not to mention that I have made more CPS calls than ever before because entire families are falling apart. I've been asking over and over why the gross increase in suicide rates among our children isn't being televised on a daily basis as much as the so-called coronavirus cases, which tend to be asymptomatic by the way. As being reported, I was disgusted to learn that two people I know one who is a social worker and one who works for UCSB tell me that they do not want this pandemic to end simply because they prefer the option of getting to work from home.
Tell me how is this not child abuse? Anyone with critical thinking skills can tell you how senseless it is that we're forcing students to stay six feet away from each other in the school settings, yet allowing everyone to go to a restaurant and sit shoulder-to-shoulder with no masks on. I guess the virus knows to stop when people are eating but not when children are attempting to learn in the classroom. What an intelligent virus don't you think?
Greg Hart, mRNA has never been injected into humans until now with these COVID shots. And now you are wanting this to be mandated in order for our children to be able to attend school and learn. That is just plain irresponsible and it's horrifying that uninformed adults are advocating for this. Tell me why private schools are not mandating masks or vaccines so the wealthy get more privileges.
What a shock! Mr. Dos Williams, in response to your disgust that these mandates are being compared to the genocide We will now go to Sean Coffman to be followed by David Ferro.
3:05 – 3:187 turns
My name is Sean Kaufman. I'm a 26 year veteran of your great County Fire Department Today, I'm here to speak on behalf of we the people Who are adamantly against all c19 mandates being proposed and currently in place within this county? This board has allowed the public health officer dr. Ansborg to run and continue to trample on your people's right to choose We the people are awake and will continue to fight against overreaching civil liberty and constitutional right crushing policies.
I urge the board to oppose and reject any policy from the PhD officer. Any policy brought forth upon we, the people will be in direct conflict with our civil liberties and direct conflict with your oaths of office. In closing, I encourage you to be on the right side of history. Do the right thing and uphold the right of your people to have the freedom of choice.
Thank you.
Thank you board for allowing me to speak. This will just be quick but I just recently came back from Florida and what a diametrically opposed situation we have, we have a state that is fully open no masks, no vaccines, no threat of vaccine passports and it's quite literally a breath of fresh air here in California we seem to be working off of fear and off of a lot of faulty science I'm fearful in one sense that if you mandate the vaccine we are going to lose many good nurses, great firefighters, policemen, policewomen and many businesses will be shut again. I don't think we can afford that.
Because of these forced vaccinations, which is really against what we already heard about the Nuremberg trials. These people are being coerced by basically saying you either take the shot or you lose your job. You know will there be something else that they can do? That was also mentioned earlier in some of the talks I'm hoping that you will Really think about this, that you will keep our county open.
That there'd be no lockdowns, there would be no masks, no vaccine mandates. And I'm just gonna ask rhetorically did you take the vaccine shot? Well if you did it was your choice and let's keep that choice for everyone without the fear of repercussion no matter how they go As was stated and actually wasn't stated, was how Scott Gottlieb the former head of the FDA is also on the board of Pfizer.
Do you see a conflict of interest here? I certainly do. And also Robert Malone he's the doctor that invented mRNA if you don't know who he is what he's saying about his own invention you should look him up check it out for yourselves I just want to say thank you for your time here. I know it's been a long day for all of you. Thank you, Greg. Happy birthday.
You know, I just pray that God continues to bless our county, our state and our nation. God bless you all. Thank you. Thank you.
And we will now go to our final speaker, Brooke Rogers.
Good morning, Chair and members of the Board of General Public. My name is Brooke Rogers. I'm a registered nurse in the newborn ICU. I've been a nurse for 16 years. You are our elected officials. You are responsible for protecting our rights as both individuals and employees. You're also responsible to protect and provide for each of your constituents including their access to medical care.
In every other scenario, we tell the public that individuals have the right to discuss with their health care provider and choose for themselves the medical care in which they are treated. Why are we changing that stance now? Why do we no longer have the right to choose for ourselves? We are losing our rights to choose for ourselves not only with this vaccine but with a number of medical interventions. This is tragic but how I am personally impacted is less of a concern than how the general public is being impacted by these decisions In 2010, the Institute of Medicine released a report entitled The Future of Nursing. This report called for increasing the number of college-prepared nurses in the workforce to 80% and doubling the population of nurses with doctoral degrees by 2020.
Subsequent research has shown that by 2017 those numbers were nowhere close to the identified goal. The number of nurses in the workforce with bachelor's degree was only 56%. In June of 2020, the California Office of Statewide Health Planning and Development divided the state of California into 72 areas according to population. Of those 72 areas 58 have a shortage of registered nurses with 20 of those areas identified as high severity shortages.
According to these numbers only 25% of California residents have ready access to an adequately staffed medical facility. For 75 percent of residents who do not, how might that appear if it were to be determined that shortages were in any part caused by elected officials? As this medical crisis continues you must do all you can to provide for your constituents. You must look at the overall impact to the health care of the state of California and and to Santa Barbara County. Contributing in any way to the further decline of the number of registered nurses available to care for your constituents will exacerbate an already critical problem, and increase the risk that our hospitals will not have the capacity to care for our patients.
You must rely on your nurses to make educated decisions, to choose the best care for ourselves so that we are then able to provide the outstanding level of care for your patients That you have come to expect, especially during this pandemic. We are tired we are frustrated but we're still there. We want to do our jobs and we're good at it. Please don't tell us that we can no longer care for our patients. You need us to answer the comment that hospitals are just abiding by the state's mandate. It is my request that Marion Medical Center in all of common spirit dignity health will approve every exemption and withdraw their threat of termination to the unvaccinated.
Thank you thank
And that was our final speaker.
All right, so now back to the board here I guess I've got a few comments and I'll go to my colleagues you know The county response to the pandemic it has been an actually just in general in our whole community and the state Throughout our country, it's unfortunate. It has been politicized and that's something that I think has been a huge disservice for all of us You know and it's just not it's not one direction. I mean, I was just when we were talking through early earlier presentation We talked about the Western States Physicians Advisory Committee that was formed because at that time there's a different administration And a lot of states didn't trust the people that were in charge of the CDC because there was a different president, and so there was a need to do that.
It was politicized in one direction We know right now this mask mandate that we have is partly politicized because it would be a statewide mandate if there wasn't a recall election less than a month away. You know these things are influenced by politics and I think for any of us to say that they're not is being very naive and so that said, I think acknowledging it's the first step to coming together here.
us demeaning, discounting or belittling on either side is helpful. All of you that have an opinion here today, you have a valid opinion. You have your right to have that opinion and so do people that oppose the way you feel and so I think the part that I think Supervisor Lavenino was trying to get to is I think we need to have a little bit more grace for each side and be willing to accept those opinions As we move through this, I mean there's a lot of information. It's really hard to determine some things are anecdotal things or some things are not. I've heard Dr. Anzorg talk many times about things that were anecdotal and that was the reason for health officer order because this thing is moving fast. The other problem that I'm seeing that's happening throughout our country and our community is we have politicized public health okay?
We've called things like gun violence climate change racism public And so now that we're really in a communal disease health crisis, it's harder to tell the difference between policy and politics and actually medicine and science. And I think that that's something we all need to be cautious of in the future as we go through this because you know I'm someone that is vaccinated but I also do respect the opinion of others to make a decision for themselves Early on, I said when are we going to be done protecting those who don't want to protect themselves with the vaccine? There's other ways to protect themselves besides that.
I think that we should have the least dose of government influence possible in this process. One of the questions I had last week was to deal with children and how not being vaccinated, not being available to be vaccinated is affecting them You know what, we did hear that there's no children that would be at Marion. None at Lompoc Hospital. We are hearing some that are at Cottage Hospital that were not eligible for the vaccine, but I dug into that a little further. All of them have some significant pre-existing conditions.
I do think COVID-19 is in our community and probably at a higher rate than any other time in the pandemic, but you know what? It just shows that vaccines are working right? There's a story to tell That we have 10 people in the ICU countywide. That's three large hospitals, I think is a success story of the vaccines and again it doesn't need to be for everybody but it is something that is working for those who chose to especially those that are most vulnerable. I think we should all have the autonomy to make that risk assessment for ourselves.
I think that the route that we've gone on this is difficult. You know the comments by our psychologist you know I'm a former teacher And I do think, especially among our children that the unintended consequences of some of the mandates and some of the scare tactics are having a huge negative effect on our kids. I think we should be trying to take a little bit more moderate approach as we move forward And I want to tell my colleagues and other people out there, you know that the people I spoke here today some of the things.
To be honest guys sound a little fringe but you know what? You guys are not by yourselves because there's a lot of people that I talk to every day, a lot of my constituents that feel the same way as you do okay and I agree with some of the things, some things I don't Having that discussion is a part of coming together as a community, and so I think you should have your rights to say that. I'm glad you guys had the forum here today to do that, and I think the more understanding we are, the more likely we're going to be able to get through this.
One comment that my daughter had when she got vaccinated was because of all this politicization She was making a health care decision for herself, which I ultimately let her do. But she said, I feel like I'm giving in because of what's going on politically. She made it completely ultimately based on medicine, on the facts that she looked at that we discussed as a family.
But what's going on this narrative, I think is very destructive and I think it's something we should all work hard to fight against not only in our country but in our community and our county. Supervisor Williams?
3:18 – 3:342 turns
Well, I had hoped that we would not get to this place. At every step of this pandemic, I've tried to ask myself what is the least intrusive measures needed to be responsible and to reduce the death and infection rate of this pandemic? I have tried to be governed by science and I've looked at various views of that science. And, you know, I think that there is room for dissent.
There is room for alternative opinions But to me, the bottom line is a county employee signs up to serve the public. That means we interact with the public. There are jobs in this world where I'm not going to bother someone or even try to convince them to get vaccinated. Tech jobs, working from home. Probably if you took some measures when you went out in public, you would endanger a whole lot of folks but we interact with the public. It's our job to interact with the public and when we take this job, no matter where we are in this structure, we sign up to also be emergency personnel And so there's no part of this job where we don't sign up for interacting with the public.
And so I think that unless we can reach higher levels of vaccination as a county, as a whole society, I do think that we have to implement a measure for our employees That gives them either the option of weekly testing or taking the vaccine. I think that is at this point, the least intrusive measure that we could to create that additional uptake of vaccination.
I don't think it should be the only thing we do. I think there is other things that we have not done a good enough job of. If you look at the zip codes where the number of vaccinated is lowest, seems very much to correspond to either age or income level and I think that we should do a better job of outreach In those communities, you know we do vaccine clinics but we don't. We don't contact the general public about that.
I think we should. I think to especially given that now the Pfizer vaccine has formal approval. We should be doing a better job of letting people know their options to get vaccinated I do appreciate those of you that highlighted the higher incidences of depression, suicide and impacts to our children. And for me, that is the most important reason to get a higher level of vaccinated folks because I do not want to return to lockdowns I have spent and gotten a lot of criticism from some of my friends on the left for highlighting the fact that we may be losing a lot of people to depression and suicide and poverty as part of lockdowns.
And I do not want to return to that. And for that reason, I think we need to pursue it and we need to pursue it with more urgency than coming back in October. That to me is unacceptable. And I furthermore would say that we would really do our job better also if we did some type of encouragement to our contractors For instance, it makes no sense to mandate that our firefighters either get weekly testing or get vaccinated and not strongly encourage AMR to do the same.
They're responding to the same patients. I do wanna talk a little bit about the discourse here today because I think it is emblematic of our struggles And I do favor the moderate approach to dialogue and try to have empathy, but I have not seen that in evidence today. Some of you know that I had the honor of working in 1994 with people who fought against the South African tyranny They didn't do so from the comfort of colleges, but from the torture chambers of security apparatus.
My grandmother lived under Nazism. Her brother was in forced labor for the duration of the war. My grandfather lived most of the war in a POW internment camp and my wife's grandmother was born in the aftermath of an actual genocide in this country, with people still around who remembered being chased down to death by white settlers and US troops. So when people oppose a mandate that gives you the choice between taking a vaccine and getting a weekly test By invoking words like tyranny, Nazism and genocide.
It clearly reveals that you know nothing about tyranny, Nazism and genocide. And that to me as someone whose family has experienced it you dishonor their bones
All right, I'm going to take a five minute break. No, we've got an interpreter that has not taken a break in three hours so we're gonna take a five-minute break and then come back for final comments from the board. Welcome back to the board me where we're still on item D one. I'd like to apologize to the public. We needed to take a quick break for staffing reasons and we're back and we're going to Supervisor Lavagnino.
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Thank you, Mr Chair. You know, I'm really sad to see that majority of the people that were here to speak have left. And first, I want to applaud you on how you handled the meeting. That, you know I know some person said well our doctor got 12 minutes and we only got three. Well it's three per person. And we listened to almost an hour-and-a-half of public comment which is great.
You know very interesting meeting. First off I want to say that for those of you out there who think that Dr. Ansorg and Dr. Renoso have some sort of nefarious plan they're working on to take over the world They basically have one goal in mind, and that is to kill the virus. That's it. That's their whole... If you pulled back the curtain and go to their super secret meeting, they're just trying to keep you safe.
That's their goal. You might not agree with how they're going about doing it but I promise you there is no super secret handshake meeting where we all get together and figure out You know, how to take over this planet. I got to say there were a few things during the hearing that really disturbed me. One of them was... First off, I want to separate Dr. Murray because I really appreciated your public comments. I thought they were spot on and very thought provoking. But some of the other ones, the idea that going to Florida was a breath of fresh air, That was an insult to the families of the 43,000 people there that have died.
I mean Florida is yes the taste test case of if you want to do whatever you want to do with total disregard to public health and if anybody when everybody was talking about how there's personal liability for people that are in charge. I hope that is the case at the end of all this because there are people in Florida who are elected that have just decided A re-election is more important to them than the safety of their constituents.
And so that's very disturbing, but what's more disturbing to me is the continual reference to Nazi Germany. We heard the term internment camps today. I've got a and first off, I understand your passion. So give you a little bit of history because I can sense this in for some reason my antenna go up big time when we get into a situation like this is I was raised in a cult so my parents got divorced over religion and my mom left enjoying the cult in northern Idaho anti-government.
And a lot of what I heard today is this. Cults thrive on conspiracy theories, catastrophic thinking and persecution complexes. No one is coming after you, okay? That's what starts happening when you get into this situation is people feel a persecution that government's coming for us. And there's always this fear that the end is near, or there's some significant catastrophic event that's just around the corner. And that you possess inside this group information that the rest of the people don't understand or don't get.
I mean, I remember vividly 1974, I was like 10 years old and we went into a grocery store in Post Falls Idaho and they had a barcode reader, the first one we had ever seen for their cashier instead of punching in the numbers. And it started beep-beep-beep And right away, the group decided that that was the first sign of the mark of the beast. It's referenced in the Bible that you're the only way you're going to be able to get food in this state is that you're gonna have to get barcoded and you're gonna have to conform to the government so you can get your food. Well here we are 50 years later and you know that never did materialize and I know some people now are saying well that's what this vaccine is all about.
There's something in this country People have lost faith in their government. I was talking to an individual not long ago and he was talking about the difference between now and when he was a kid, when during World War II, a lot of California was asked to go through blackouts where they would simply just turn you had to turn off all your lights And he said, can you imagine if you tried to do that now? Could you imagine trying to go to me talking to my constituents in Santa Maria and saying hey everybody for the greater good of everybody we've got to turn off our lights to be safe.
You would not get the compliance that you did back in the day. Back in the day everybody was like okay we're working for the common good. We understand let's do it. Maybe I don't understand it maybe I don' think that it's really that big of a deal but for the sake of my neighbors I will do it Now somebody is going to go online And I also have to tell people for the woman that said, you know she spends her whole day on this.
That's not maybe that's part of the problem is with the with the advent of the Internet and Wikipedia and you can go anywhere for any type of information Always 100% fact checked. You know, I think it's funny. That I'll never mind, I'll say this. The last hour to me was the greatest commercial ever to get vaccinated. I imagine that most people that were watching, I was a little bit on the fence as far as the mandate goes. You really helped me move in a direction and it wasn't your direction. I really heard a lot of this and I said I cannot be associated with that.
That is not. That is not the thought process that I want to align myself with now. I can't get on board 100% with the other part of it, you know of a mandate and now it led to much bigger struggle for me. I'm healthy individual but I want you guys to know I had the disease. I got the virus. Made it through wasn't that big of a deal to me. II was able to make it through pretty well.
But I passed it onto my dad who's 86. And I almost killed him. If you haven't had that happen before, let me tell you something. It does provide you with something that I call COVID guilt that I gave it to somebody else. I also gave it to my staff member and a few other people unknowingly but I almost killed my dad and if that had happened, I would have never been able to live with myself so I understand people have differences of opinions I hope what I heard today wasn't most of the people that are opposed to getting the vaccine because I understand no matter what we say or what comes out, you are not going to change your position. That's just bottom line.
So I'll be interested to see how we come back with the vaccination mandate. I'm interested to see how many of our employees already have it. Uh, have taken the vaccination and what we can do to encourage those who are on the fence. But to those that are adamantly opposed which are the ones that we heard today I don't think any study, any medical information or anything's ever going to change that so just a sad, sad, sad hearing today really disappointing.
All right thank you Supervisor Labadino, Supervisor Hartman and then Supervisor Hart.
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Well, it was an education for me today to listen. But vaccine resistance isn't new. It goes back to the smallpox vaccine in the late 1800s and there were events like this back then. It actually did go to the Supreme Court and vaccine mandates were upheld. It's hard for me to understand exactly why it is so frightening to people, but I think I learned a lot in hearing today.
If you think about how science works, it's rare that it's ever unanimous. There's usually outliers and that's a good thing that they question the paradigm. It gives new research ideas, but we as People who are elected to sit up here, we're not public health experts. And so we have to look at the scientific consensus and the overwhelming consensus is that the vaccine is effective and that if you take the vaccine, the risk is much, much less that you'll get the disease, that you'll transmit it to lots of people.
The risk is much greater of COVID than from the vaccine. And that is the scientific consensus. The thing that troubled me today in what I heard, is this sense Individual rights and atomism, and a loss of a sense of the common good and what we do to help protect each other. And I'm not sure what's happened in our world that the individual is the measure of all In my world, what makes me feel good is being here and working for others.
And I think many of the people who testified are actually in callings that serve other people and yet the language that people used didn't comport with the very life that they've chosen. So, anyway a lot of puzzles for me to think about today but vaccine mandates are not new resistance to them is you know couple centuries old now and I think we have to think about the greater good and to my judgment that's seeing as many people get vaccinated as possible especially for children because
Thank you, Supervisor Hartman. Supervisor Hart?
Yeah I
really
just want to thank my colleagues for those really well said remarks. You know I am so proud to serve with you this is extraordinarily difficult and I absolutely feel the passion and the weight of the public testimony. I don't agree with A lot of what was said today, but you absolutely have a right to believe what you do and that is our American democratic system. And I think it is our responsibility to try to provide information that can help people make informed decisions and I'm not going to quit on that. I think as difficult as it seems particularly in a day like today we have to keep trying. We have to keep giving credible information Dr. Anzor and Dr. Domenoso attempt to do every week is really important work, and I want to empower them and to encourage them To continue the PowerPoint presentation, it spoke to the myths and tried to frame these issues in a way that's constructive and useful for people to find information that might influence their decision and encourage them to get vaccinated.
We do know the vaccines are working. That is pretty well established. We just need more people to do that. And this is a strategy. It's not going to solve everything but it's a way County family, you know in the lead of trying to do the right thing and I'll be really interested to hear the information from human resources about the number of people that are already vaccinated. You know what that what kind of impact that would make this is a really important dialogue to move forward on and I want to be constructive and I want to be respectful for people who have different points of view but we are all in this together. This is is that there's a communicable disease, invisible communicable disease in this room right now that threatens people's lives.
And we have a responsibility probably the most important thing in our job is to protect public health and so we have to do that and the people in the county are working Non-stop for the past 18 months to do that. And you know, we haven't always gotten it right because the circumstances and reality of the situation has changed dramatically over time. So we need to be nimble and we need to be responsive to the reality of the moment. And in the moment is different. It's tougher and harder and more consequential now than it was 18 months ago. And that's a fact too.
Thank you Supervisor Hart. Can I can maybe get a motion?
I'll make a motion to direct the CEO and Human Resources to develop a countywide policy for implementation of a vaccine mandate for County employees that would include the option for weekly testing.
Would you include the receiving file on item department? That too,
thank you for that
as well yes Do I have a second on that?
I'll second that. Though, I also would ask that we entertain additional communication strategies up into including either doing it ourselves or contracting with the nonprofit to do phone banking and let people know their options. We're talking about voluntary stuff not even the mandate.
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All right Supervisor Lavanino
Well, I'm curious about this motion. So is the vote now? So if we vote yes then I guess that you're directing the CEO to come back. You know, I know this is going to get misconstrued so I am not going to vote on that because I don't at this point support the vaccination mandate. So I know if I vote for the direction then people are gonna get confused and and so I don't want anybody to be confused about that. I wanna wait and see what the information is
All right, thank you Supervisor Lavagnino and I will be taking a similar position. Right now I would not support that if it came back to the board. I'm always willing to take new information in and evaluate things and see how things go. I think a lot of those people who haven't gotten vaccinated are doing the same thing for themselves every week and I think you're going to see a lot more people get vaccinated now the FDA approval has happened. And so, I think we should, you know, I would prefer that we wait and see how that goes but I'm willing to listen moving forward.
CEO Miyasato?
Chair Nelson and Supervisor Hart, would you like us to come back next week? I'm looking at our just long-range agenda. Our meeting is five hours next week otherwise our next meeting is until September 14th.
I think it is, it's timely. It's important that it be timely so next week is my preference.
I would just add this logic. You know if we really want to affect the downward curve we're going to have to take action swiftly
Alright, and as chairman I'm going to. I'm going to probably have the item last that day just as we get through some other items so just as the public is aware that's way I plan on scheduling that for next week is that will be our last item of the day. We can be here longer but there's other county business that we need to get accomplished as well. So with that Miss Van Molen
Mr. Chair, members of the board so just for clarification on the motion The second part of the motion is just to direct staff to come back and we'll have it next week to consider this item And then I also just wanted to clarify that the direction is Requiring employees to get the vaccine or have weekly testing that's what is the direction for the policy
Yes, that's
a motion. Thank you
All right, Supervisor Lavagnino and then we'll get a vote here
Question and I know the board wants to move really quickly on this, but is that even possible to get that information from HR?
Supervisor LaVanina through the chance of information I think you're seeking was what percentage of our employees is vaccinated. So when we when the Cal OSHA guidelines were implemented, we were required to find out basically who who is vaccinated because if they weren't vaccinated they would have to wear a mask and so we already did that work couple months ago although that number's understated. I want to say it's understated because employees who are working at home did not necessarily give us the information because it wasn't germane But at that point, with that information we showed 60% of our employees had said they were vaccinated. Again we believe that's an undercount but we know that no less than 60%.
That brings up a question that I have you know there are some employees that have been able to and continue to be able to work from home that we maybe look at that as a board when that comes up so
We'll include that in the information we come back with next week. And just as your motion to incorporate Supervisor Williams' request that we do more, not necessarily with employees but more in getting the information out about the FDA approval. We can do that and I'd ask then Terry and our communications team to come up with strategies. I want to give them a lot of leeway on how they do it, not necessarily phone bank but there could be other ways.
Okay, with that we have a motion and a second. Madam Clerk will you please call the roll?
Roll-call vote Failed 2–2 motion and a second. Madam Clerk will you please call the roll?
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Motion passes three to two.
Okay well thank you everybody for being here today and participating in the discussion. Thank you my colleagues for that robust discussion as well and with that we have item departmental item number 2 which hopefully we can get done here really quickly Madam Clerk, will you read item D2 into the record?
Chair Nelson and members of the board. Departmental Item number two is from Planning and Development. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Santa Barbara County Coalition for Responsible Cannabis Appeal of the Planning Commission approval of the Autumn Brands LLC and Ocean Hills Hill Farms LLC cannabis cultivation project case numbers 21 APL 20, 20 DVP 11 And 20 CDP 79. This is in the first district and this just for clarification, we did receive a request to withdraw this item and have posted revised recommended actions as seen on page 17 of our agenda. Thank you.
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All right. Let's go to staff director Plowman.
Mr. Chair, members of the board as indicated by Ms. Alexander the appellant withdrew the appeal and So there is no longer an item to be heard by the board And we do have The project applicant here today, and I think mr. Shatillo Is via zoom they may want to make some remarks about the compromise that they reached but? I don't have anything else to report and I can answer any questions if the board has them
All right, any questions from the board? Supervisor Hartman.
Well I did have a comment and that is that we heard during public comment from the carp growers and Mr. Schatillo about this agreement and I just think it's a terrific effort on the part of them and our planning department To think outside the box and to really struggle with an issue that has flummoxed our board, odor control. We may not have all the technology yet but they're devising ways that as technology improves we will see improvements in the apparatus on these greenhouses and odor control.
When you give a land use permit, that permit can last forever. And if you say you have no odor control, that's a real concern. So I really applaud them for struggling and figuring this out and especially P&D that works so hard to support this effort. Thank you.
Thank You Supervisor Hartman.
Supervisor Williams? Well for the On behalf of my constituents, I just appreciate both sides sticking with the negotiation. I know it was difficult. I appreciate county staff for helping. I know there were moments when we couldn't do everything that would have facilitated the agreement and it makes me feel even better that both parties stuck with the negotiation and the commitment Thank you Supervisor
Williams. And Madam Clerk is there anybody here to speak on the item public comment 2 and they're going to speak to the withdrawal so again I just want to make sure the public understands that public comment on this item will be to the withdrawal of the item it will not be to
Chair Nelson and members of the board we have no request to speak in public comment in regards to the withdrawal of this item but as previously mentioned from Director Plowman, we do have Autumn Shelton available here in person to provide some comments as well as Mark Shatillo via Zoom.
All right would either one of you like to make quick comments? Ms. Shelton?
Good afternoon Chair Nelson and Board of Supervisors. It's been a pretty heavy morning so hopefully this brings some positivity and the importance of community to your day. My name is Autumn Shelton, President of Carp Growers and owner CFO of Autumn Brands, the project applicant. We are thrilled to see the appeal of our project withdrawn. We've been working with the Appellant Coalition for Responsible Cannabis over the last year to reach an agreement that not only includes our farm, but also includes over 20 additional farms and carp growers.
This historic agreement is a reflection of carp growers' leadership in the cannabis industry and our commitment to being good neighbors. We've gone above and beyond to design a whole new odor complaint response program that provides residents with much more transparency to track resolution of odor complaints directly with operators. We support this new program because we believe this is critical to foster trust and accountability with our neighbors.
Our goal is to work directly with residents who experience odor so we can solve this issue together. We even agreed to file a new model odor abatement plan with our permits, so it runs with the land long term. Additionally, this partnership with the coalition is also unique in that Carp Growers has continued to fund groundbreaking research and development efforts regarding the science of odors.
We have new scientific data regarding which compounds cause odor and how to best mitigate and monitor objectionable odors. These studies are expensive, complex and take time. Our association remains dedicated to solving the odor issue and bringing the community along with us. In conclusion, Autumn Brands and Ocean Hill Farms have always been a leader in the cannabis industry and we are excited about this partnership. Our family farm has been in Carpinteria for many decades and we are here to stay. I'd like to thank our county staff for all their extra time assisting us with finalizing the documents, especially Travis Seward and Joe Darble. And thank the coalition for their willingness to come to the table and work collaboratively with the industry to improve the Carpinteria community.
And thank you board for your continued support of our efforts to secure permits and licenses in Santa Barbara County.
Thank You Ms. Chilton. Mr. Sciatello, I imagine you want to speak?
Mr. Chair, if I could thank you. I wanted to on behalf of the Coalition for Responsible Cannabis concur that the Autumn Brands appeal has been subsumed by this larger agreement that we produced in this morning during public comment. Our goal at the coalition and with Carb Growers is to create structural And so between the model OAP that the county will be enforcing, the community odor guidelines that are part of a voluntary commitment by car growers and the overarching agreement between the parties.
We're very, very hopeful that we now have turned a corner To be able to identify those responsible members of the cannabis industry and know that they will step forward and take responsibility for their owners, and work with the community to implement those structural solutions. I was cut off in my comments and didn't have a chance to offer a few appreciations for the many, many people that have been along this path for the last nearly year.
First props to county staff for hanging with us putting in the extra time to review and discuss these issues with us. Travis Seward, Joe Dargle, Catherine Lear, and Lisa Plowman Amongst many, the county council that supported that effort. We are truly appreciative of staff's effort and the county's commitment and the board support each of you and the members of the planning commission that have all tried to get us to the place where we are now on the Board of the Santa Barbara Coalition for Responsible Cannabis Rob Solomon has been at the table and intimately involved in putting together all these documents. And I'm deeply indebted to his stick with it, our late night conversations and our ability to work through the issues.
And other board member Lionel Neff who was a steady presence and helped bring the coalition and carp growers together. To the members of Carp Growers and their management, we're particularly appreciative of the effort of past President Tristan Strauss who addressed your board earlier today and current president Autumn Shelton for keeping what is an unwieldy process moving forward and bringing along the entire group. To Mike Palmer and Phil Green, two members of Carp Growers Who themselves personally took on the scientific research that got us to where we are.
Without their pioneering work many, many months and months ago long before the coalition entered into any of these formal conversations those two were advancing the science of odor detection and odor control and that's why we're here. And finally, the professionals at Axiom Advisors Aaron Weber and Jared Ficker for also keeping this whole process moving forward.
It's been quite a slog and I think that the sophistication and the complexity of the documents reflects how much this is going to be a durable process that will provide a vehicle for resolving the issues in Carpinteria, and hopefully providing a template for addressing similar problems elsewhere in the community. So thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you members of the board for hanging with this process and we look forward to really working this problem out and making sure that this is an industry that can function in our community without having adverse impacts to their neighbors. Thank you. All
right, thank you Mr. Sciatello I've got a question from Supervisor Hartman
Yes, is there any way that they'll be a seal or some way for consumers and others to identify people who are good neighbors and abiding by this agreement?
Currently I don't know of anything that is available to accomplish that, but that's certainly a topic worthy of further discussion. You know local growers or community members that are making these commitments should be acknowledged for that.
All right thank you Supervisor Hartman and Mr. Sciatello can I get a motion?
Mr. Chair.
Oh,
sorry. If you just indulge me for one moment I just want to join this and I'll make it very quick. I really want to thank all the parties that work with staff. Autumn Brand, Mark Shatillo, everybody that they mentioned because you know what they did? They understood the constraints that we were under in the department and then they continued to work to resolve that and that was huge and that's how they got to where they are so I just really want Say my appreciation for that and for my staff who worked really hard with them. Thank
you. Thank You director Berman I'll just add my thanks to everybody for digging in and being determined to get to success It's really important for the community and for the industry. So,
thank you. All right. Thank you see where as a heart Can I get a motion on this? any emotion for withdrawal and Staff recommendations
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I move that we withdraw this item and implement staff
recommendations. Second. We have a motion from Supervisor Williams and a second from Supervisor Lavagnino, all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes unanimously. All right Madam, Ms. Van Molen would you please read the items for closed session.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have a number of items for closed session. The first two are existing litigation and the board will be sitting as the Board of Directors for the Santa Barbara County Flood Control Water Conservation District. The first case is the district versus N. Scott Vincent, Superior Court Case Number 19CV06567. The second is district versus DeLuvia Holdings, Santa Barbara Superior Court Case Number 18CVO4567.
There are two items for real property negotiators. The first is APN 081-130-019 and 031-130-060. And that's located near Highway 101, Goleta. The agency negotiator is General Services and the negotiating parties are Gaviota Terminal Company and the Trust for Public Land. The second is Assessor Personal Number 081130070 located at 17100 Cali Mariposa Arena in Gaviota. Agency Negotiator General Services Director Jeanette Pell and negotiating partners Point Arguello Pipeline Company and Trust for Public Land.
And the final is labor negotiators for all bargaining units, unrepresented employees, managers and executives. And the time estimate is about an hour and 45 minutes.
Okay so we will be back at 3 o'clock for adjournment. So thank you.
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Reconvening
the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors meeting of August 24th. And Ms. Van Molen, as county counsel would you report
out from closed session? Thank you Madam Chair and members of the board. The board met in closed session on two items of existing litigation, Santa Barbara County Flood Control Water Conservation District versus N Scott Vincent. And the flood control district versus de la vena holdings there were two items for a conference with real property negotiators The first was assessor parcel number 0 8 1 1 3 0 0 1 9 and 0 3 1 1 three zero zero six zero Near highway when I went one in Goleta, and the second was assessors parcel number 0 8 113 0 0 7 0 located at 17 100 Cali Mayor Pro Serena Gaviota Thank you. With that we adjourn to August 31st