Board of Supervisors — 2021-10-12

Good morning, there we are. All right good morning I call to order the October 12th 2021 meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. Madam Clerk will you please call the roll?

Chair Nelson and members of the board, I have a couple quick announcements today. I would like to remind the public that the Board of Supervisors meetings are being interpreted and broadcast live in Spanish. We are broadcasting our meetings in Spanish both for Cox Cable subscribers in South County as well as Comcast Cable subscribers in North County. Members of the public can now view our meetings in Spanish by turning on the secondary audio programming also known as SAP or SAP under their language settings.

Lastly, I would like to remind the public who are participating in our meeting today of the board's updated methods of public participation. For the Board of Supervisors methods of public participation and to provide public comment on general public comment or an item on the board's agenda please see page two of the agenda Members of the public can attend meetings in person in both the Santa Maria Board Hearing Room Chambers as well as the Santa Barbara Board Hearing Room Chamber.

Please note on October 5, 2021 an additional County Health Officer order went into effect requiring indoor mask usage for everyone over two years of age regardless of vaccination status. If you attend the board meeting in person, you will be required to wear a face covering or mask at all times regardless of vaccination status. Information regarding how to properly wear a mask has been posted throughout both locations.

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Each person may address the board for up to three minutes and this is at the discretion of the chair. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact the clerk of the board's office at area code 805-568-2240. Again that's 805-568-2240 and that concludes my announcements this morning.

Thank you Madam

Clerk. The next item of business is the County Executive Officer's Report. CEO Miyasato do you have anything to report today?

Chair Nelson and board members, as you know there is an Al-Asal fire occurring in the South County today. We are trying to get Chief Hartwig on the line. I'm checking, is he on the line? He is on the line for a quick status update and then he will be followed by our OEM Director Kelly Hubbard who can talk about the numbers we have in our evacuation center. So Chief Hartwig...

He's by phone

Chief Hartwood, you are muted. You may need to press star six.

How's that CEO? Perfect

we can hear you thank you.

Yes, you're welcome. If I could give you a quick update. I'm actually up at the Tahiga landfill right now And one of our highest priorities is to protect this facility. I want to give you a quick overview of the fire and where we are at this morning, kind of a projection and then a little bit more specifically about the landfill here and after tying in with some of Director McAulpin's staff here.

We're at about 6,000 acres still high winds somewhat erratic And we expect those for a few hours today with maybe a little bit of relief where we expect maybe an onshore flow, which is good news and bad news. We expect that to run up into the canyons where the fire's well established. And then we expect in an evening down slope wind again this evening Started up on the Camino Cielo right at about Allisaw Lake, and not a lake I'm familiar with until today.

On the other side of the ridge and quickly blew over held up on the top of the ridge there above Tahecus Canyon for about an hour and then came into alignment with the wind in blue all the way to the coast my way to landfill this morning we still have active fire along both sides of the freeway on the 101 between El Capitan where the Incident Command Post is and where the landfill is.

It burned into Tahigas, into Barron Canyon and now is on the establishing itself on the west side of Rufufio Canyon. We have structure protection in place and we have some perimeter control or direct attack but very little At this point, because of the terrain and the fire conditions. We have about 600 firefighters we have a lot of aircraft on order which would really help. We won't get any help from the aircraft they're grounded because of the wind and we're hoping that when the winds die down in a little bit, we can get a lot of aircraft in here with retardant and knock some of Steam out of the forward progress of the fire, which at this point continues to burn East and South. It's already burned to the coast on the south so it's burning east down towards El Capitan, which is the projection for the fire.

The modeling still shows that 7500 acres plus we're about 6000. We have more resources on order and zero containment at this point. When I left last night, the ICP last night we were good. There was a stand made here yesterday as it made a run towards the landfill. If you're familiar with the facility there's the ADF up top, the MRF about mid slope and then some of the intake kind of reception facilities down below.

The ADF really had no damage to it at all. There was a grinder that was set aside kind of out in a field that took some damage, it looked like. And then some of the infrastructure, some of the piping and the infrastructure that carries the methane gas has taken some fire damage as well. The MRF has a digester or some type of wood chip processing Mechanism next to it.

I won't even after talking with some of the staff, I would try to be an expert on that but that is on fire right next to the MRF and we have resources on it even as I speak with county staff too. To keep that in check or to put it out where we're not really sure working with the engineers there at the facility to try to figure out how to best attack It might be a digester, if I'm not mistaken that there might be some damage to that digester. But for the most part, damage to the Tahequs facility is minimal and again, a lot of props to the firefighters but also to Director McAulpin's staff here at Tahequs and their work even as we speak right now and then of course their assistance Here and my point of contact has been a Travis has been a big, big help over the last couple days here.

So I wish they had better news we're hoping for better conditions that's going to help us a lot and of course it will also help the air efforts. I'll be here for the day or so. And if you need anything, please feel free CEO Mayor Soderlund Board Chair Nelson and board to give me a holler. Thank you.

Thank you, Chief Hartwig. We have a question for you from Supervisor Hartman.

Good morning, Chief Hartwig. Have any structures been damaged?

We believe that the only confirmed damage to any structure at all is to the Tahigas digester, at this point. And maybe again as I described this grinder, as far as any structures damaged up along Rufufio and Tahigas we don't have any reports of structure damage yet and we have structure protection in place Specifically where most of the structures are, which is off of Rufufio Road there.

Thank you Chief Edward. Any other questions from the Board? Supervisor Williams are you all right down there?

I'm okay just that well I think we can ask some staff about damage to the gas system later.

All right thank you Supervisor Williams.

We also have Kelly Hubbard, our OEM director who can give you a brief update on who was in the evacuation shelters last night. Ms.

Hubbard? At our evacuations shelter at Dos Pueblos High School we had 18 individuals overnight 14 of those are actually Amtrak riders who were stranded for the evening and so this morning Amtrak is working with our local Um, and TD and partners to get those individuals to their final destination. And then we had 4 who were evacuees from the fire area. And so we'll continue to work with American Red Cross in our local partners there to support those individuals with any sheltering that they may need going into today in this evening.

Just as a reminder, we do have our large animal evacuation at the Earl Warren grounds. And if there's any need for any animal evacuation assistance they can call Animal Services at 805-681-4332. We do still have an area of both an evacuation order and evacuation warning so those residents who are within that evacuation warning We do have SCE power outage at the request of fire to But just for your awareness as well, you'll start hearing we do have a PG&E in North County which is a public safety power shutoff that is unrelated to the fire.

But we do have some customers in North County who are currently without power and some expected potentially additional customers later this week with increased winds expected later this week again. So just for your awareness that isn't fire related when for PG& But it is associated with a potential public safety power shut off. And I can take any questions if needed.

Ms. Hubbard, can you just remind everyone where they can find information on the incident on our website?

Yes, sorry. Very little sleep last night. I apologize. So we do have information up on ReadySBC.org. We are updating that information as we speak and starting to get more information onto that website about the various resources and information regarding the incident. Any members of the public who are not registered for emergency alerts can also register for alerts On that website, there's a click register for ready SPC alerts.

When you go to the readysbc.org website, you click the red banner at the top and that will take you to the incident page with more information.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Yes, Supervisor Williams please.

Just maybe a reiteration of what the areas that are under evacuation order and evacuation warning. The last email I read said everything west of El Capitan Ranch to Tohigas but I don't know if that's expanded?

And the board evacuation order. So that is an order for a Royal Hondo Canyon, Refugio Canyon and the area between El Capitan State Beach State Park and West Camino Cielo. And then evacuation warning includes the area east of El Capitan Beach State Park and west of Dos Pueblos Canyon Road and south south of West Camino Cielo. And that evacuation map is linked on the ReadySVC website as well.

Thank you, Ms. Hubbard.

All right, so no further questions from the board? Thank you, CEO Miyasato and Chief Hartwig and Ms. Hubbard for your hard work.

Turn Nelson and members of the board. We have one item pulled from the public, and that is administrative Item number four

OK? Alright, so let's go ahead and pull that item from the balance and can I get a motion to prove items A. The administrative agenda without administrative item A4. A motion by Supervisor Hartman and a second by Supervisor Hart. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Oh, sorry let me I need you to do a roll call. Madam Clerk will you please call the roll?

Motion passes unanimously

Okay, taking the discretion of the chair I'm going to go ahead and

Good afternoon, members of the board. Administrative item number 17 is sponsored by Supervisor Hartman. It is to adopt a resolution proclaiming October 2021 as Arts and Humanities Month in Santa Barbara County. And joining us via Zoom today we have Kyle Abello, Stacey Kiss and John Sanchez from the Bealton Arts and Culture Committee. I'll go ahead and read the resolution.

Whereas the month of October has been recognized as National Arts and Humanities Month by the White House and Congress for 36 years. And whereas the Board of Supervisors formed the County Arts Commission in 1977 to support, foster, and encourage participation in and access to arts and culture for all county residents. And whereas art, culture and creative expression uniquely sustain and inspire identity and belonging acknowledge celebrate and bridge differences support equitable and resilient communities reflect our shared humanity and help us to reimagine more.

just and inclusive features. And whereas the County Arts Commission established the Leadership in Arts Award in 2006 to honor leaders that have made a significant impact on arts and culture in our region through visionary thinking, an exemplary commitment to promoting sustaining and advancing community through the arts And whereas for the 2021 Leadership in Arts Award, the Arts Commission has selected the City of Buelton's Arts and Culture Committee recently established by Buelton City Council to bring artistic and cultural experiences to the community.

And whereas Buelton's multi-year arts funding commitment has supported projects including sculpture at the San Ynez Valley Botanic Garden Murals depicting local parks, strolling musicians and exhibits on the Avenue of Flags unifying artists and citizens together through the power of art. And now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors proclaims October as National Arts and Humanities Month and commends cultural practitioners institutions and supporters for their vital role in improving the quality of life for all residents past and adopted today.

Thank you, Madam Clerk. I'll give an opportunity for Supervisor Hartman.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Well, I'm just so proud. I have a Buellton mailing address. I live just outside the city but consider it my hometown and art makes you see things anew. When I'm driving by the Avenue of Flags and I see that there's new pieces of art or I'm going through the Botanic Garden and see the works that have been there, it just wakes me up and I see it in a way I've never seen it before. And it takes a lot of work And this committee has really put in a lot of work. And so we're all grateful, we all benefit from it and thank you.

Thank you Supervisor Hartman. Mr. Abello?

Yes, Mr. Chair and members of the board I'm so grateful for being recognized. I'd like to introduce Vice Mayor John Sanchez who would like to say thanks on behalf of the city

Thank you very much to the Arts Commission for giving us the award and it's quite a surprise for the little city that could, and it's new to us. And it's a pleasure to work with the artists that brought in all their hard work to make the city a little nicer place to live and

thank you for the recognition. And another one of our arts and culture committee members Stacy Kiss

We want to thank you for this recognition. community member artists and really included them in the wider project that we've all endeavored to create for the community. And it's been really well received and loved, and we're looking forward to continuing it in the future. Thank you very much for this wonderful honor. I'd like to also say that if you go to cityofbulton.com In the what's new program, there is the arts and culture program that you can click on.

And there's a place for artists to go and submit their ideas and present them to us for future funding.

And I've got your certificate here, Mayor Pro Tem Sanchez, so I drop it by City Hall?

Sorry Kyle, you are still on mute. Did you?

We just said yes, yes thank you that would be wonderful

alright

alright

thank you.

Thank you city of Builton and thank you Supervisor Hartman for that. All right, with that we're going to go ahead and get to our last item in the administrative agenda before moving on to general public comment. And just for members of the public that may want to speak on COVID or COVID related issues in general public comment actually A4 would be the item that you would see speaking on so just for those who are not aware General Public Comment is a Typically, for items that are not on our agenda. We've purposely kept COVID on our administrative agenda so it could create an opportunity for the public to be able to ask you to address the board and for the board members to ask questions of staff. So just want to make sure that everybody's aware of how that will proceed through this item.

So with that Madam Clerk we please read Item A4 into the record?

Thank you, Chair Nelson and members of the board administrative item number four is from the county executive office. It is to consider recommendations regarding an update on the Coronavirus disease 2019 COVID-19. And we have 10 requests to speak from the public on this item.

All right before we get to the public. Over the last week, had a few questions in my email box about my question to Dr. Anzorg about case rates and CDC transmission guidelines and whether we're in the high level or substantial or moderate or whatnot. And I think there was some confusion in my question and then the answer from Dr. Anzorg My question at that time was, are we still in the high transmission level and at what level would be below that? And I think Dr. Dobernoso is available to clarify that answer at this time.

Good morning. Good morning, Board of Supervisors. With regards to our current rate which is above 11 according to the old California blueprint system we would be in tier one or the widespread category which means that our new cases are above are above 10 per 100,000 per day. So when with regards to the CDC tier with a case rate of over 11 we would be considered in their low category however, however per the CDC website this morning we are at the substantial level which signifies a case rate A 50 to 99 new cases per 100,000 and this is because of the seven day average with a four day lag.

Yeah, Dr. Dover knows I think that's what's really important is 11 cases but you guys for everybody in the public you need to think 11 times 7 so we're really at 77 cases which puts you in substantial category. You know the idea hopefully is that once we get below seven cases per day which would be below 50 then we'd be in a moderate transmission and I know that's where the CDC recommends Reducing the mask mandates and I know that you guys will be looking at that. The other positive news as I was doing my research on this, and again, I think the public will bring it up because I think it gives us the opportunity to clarify the issue is on the test positivity rate. And so as far as a test positivity rate is, I believe we're at about 3% for our county which pits us actually at the low transmission level according to CDC guidelines which is 0-5% for low and 5 to 8% for moderate.

So we're doing a great job on test positivity, and I think that's something that should be celebrated and recognized. So thank you for clarifying that Dr. De Bruno.

Chair Nelson if I may clarify so what I typically share with the public is that when we share the case rate, you want to take that number. So in this case it's 11 and you multiply by 4.5 because of our county population. So it's 11 times 4. number of cases that is being recorded.

All right, thank you Dr. DeRosso. With that we're going to go and is there any other questions for staff from the board before I go to general public comment? Right Madam Clerk do we still have 10 speakers on this item?

Chair Nelson and members of the board, we now have 11 requests to speak on this

item. So we're going to go ahead and go to the public on this item. And at this time I am closing the public comment period on this item. And as I mentioned before each speaker will have two minutes to comment on Item A4. Madam Clerk?

Chair Nelson and members of the board, We will begin on Zoom with Lisa Huff to be followed by Dr Amy Smith.

Welcome Miss Huff

And Lisa, I have unmuted. Oh perfect, great thank you. You can please

provide your comments. Thank you, you're very nice thank you. Okay with forest fires the firefighters create fire breaks by cutting the grass and clearing debris because fire can't burn dirt. Dirt is immune to fire it doesn't burn rock and water are immune from fire these act to halt the progression likewise every year viruses come take out the weakest and most vulnerable while the young and the healthy When they get sick, recover and develop natural immunity. So after a few weeks the virus has run out of dry tinder. There's no one left in the population that is vulnerable and the virus recedes. This is basic epidemiology. It makes no sense to vaccinate a child who has zero chance of dying from COVID unless they have major pre-existing health conditions.

It has been well documented that children almost never spread COVID to adults And because they generally have zero to minimal symptoms and develop strong immunity after exposure to COVID, they act as a stop gap. An immunological fire break if you will for the community. The rate of COVID deaths in children is less than from the flu and we never masked kids for flu season. These vaccines are giving kids heart inflammation at 30 times the usual rate that will irreparably scar and damage their hearts More children will die from the vaccine than from COVID. The vaccine is not medically necessary for children, and we are depriving them of acquiring true natural immunity.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Huff.

We will now go to Dr. Amy Smith to be followed by Susan Anderson.

Welcome, Dr. Smith. When you're ready.

Thank you, Chair Nelson. Can you hear me? Last week, well first I want to say the CDC itself is not a trustworthy organization with the presentation last week and Dr. De La Rosa talking about the misinformation mouse and cautioning us to only listen to the CDC for data and the California Department of Public Health and the County Health Department That's very concerning because there are huge, there's tremendous evidence of conflict of interest of all of these bodies due to the very powerful influence of the pharmaceutical industry on the policies that are allowed to be considered. That's why we're not hearing about the vitamin D status being checked and we're not hearing about monoclonal antibodies being proposed to be made available to people And ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine other kinds of treatments that have been very effective throughout the world.

And thank you for rolling your eyes but there is information and data and science has to look at everything and not just what makes profits for the largest corporations on the planet that also deal in drugs that kill people such as the opioid epidemic and have unfortunately criminal track records that are quite verifiable So this is very concerning that we have health officials that are only listening to certain sources that are constrained by policies that make profits for huge corporations. And that is not in the interest of health. I'm also very concerned that last week, Supervisor Williams said that one in 90 had died of this virus in our county and I'm hoping he can correct the record because if we want the public to trust official sources, we need to be very careful and honest with data and have humility if we misstate.

And the fact is that we are being encouraged to be terrified of something that seems to be manageable and not much different from the flu, and we're asked to give up all kinds of rights and we're subjecting children like my children are still exercising in masks. Thank

you Dr. Smith. That was your time.

Chair Nelson and members of the board, we will now go to Susan Anderson to be followed by Claudia Henry.

Hi, can you hear me?

We can

Okay, great. So Pfizer has redacted 30% of their document on Comirnaty so that the public can't see what's in it. That's kind of like Campbell Soup deciding that they don't want the public to know what's in MSG or any other artificials in the soup. It's bad for business, so they just leave it off the label so people don't know. Even food companies can't do this. So why does the FDA allow Pfizer to do this? What we're injecting into our bodies is far more concerning than a bowl of soup. So why do you think Pfizer's allowed to get away with this? The FDA is a captured agency, just like the CDC. The people who work there come from pharmaceutical companies and know they have a bright future with pharma if they play ball and serve the interests of pharma while at the agency.

It's called the revolving door and everyone in the industry knows about it. Former Commissioner Herbert Lay said this about the FDA in 1969. The FDA protects the big drug companies and is subsequently rewarded using the government's police powers. They attack those who threaten the drug companies. People think that the FDA is protecting them, it isn't. What the FDA is doing and what the public thinks it is doing are as different as night and day. Pfizer redacted about 30% of the paper on the vaccine and what's in it. When you redact something, you have to provide a code which states the reason for the reduction to justify its secret. So Pfizer uses reduction code B4, which is used to avoid revealing quote information that would impair the application of a US weapon system.

There you have it. The vaccine is officially a US weapons system. A bioweapon Is against the world's population. What you do with this knowledge will define your legacy? Are you going to help us stop this train wreck or be a part of the greatest genocide in human history? And as everyone knows, the first oath in medicine is first to do no harm. Unfortunately, the public health department has done such great harm that people have been committing suicide. They've lost their jobs. They've lost their ability to go to school and to work. So if you're gonna violate your first oath of office, you shouldn't be in that position to be in that public health. We've made our whole community sicker and I really hope that the Board of Supervisors can step up to their job and come out for-

Thank you, Ms. Anderson. That is your time.

We will now go to Claudia Henry to be followed by Dr. Hazen Witten.

Go ahead, Miss Henry.

Hello I live in Goleta but I'm just a concerned citizen mother and private teacher. I suppose I care so much about education so i'm trying to get educated from the health department and every week I'm running into a stumbling block I'm hearing that the information keeps changing, but I'm not hearing the Santa Barbara Health Department really changing their information. Still, I'm not hearing about preventative treatments. I don't think my children are being educated about preventative treatment. I'm not hearing about what's actually in the vaccine. I'm not hearing about say like the physician's declaration, the global COVID summit that took place in Rome 11 000 doctors have signed that and I'm thinking should I listen to eleven thousand scientists or my local health department?

Well can we do both? Can we get just better information out there for us because We are being nudged by Santa Barbara County to go into mandated testing or mandated vaccination and we just need more information. And your influence is important, businesses are following it, schools are following it. Just don't think we have enough information so I'm asking for a pause, a pause on what you're doing and a re-examination of the science. This is an utmost priority.

Thank you for listening.

Thank you.

We will now go to Dr. Hsu Witten to be followed

by Aaron Chadwick. Dr. Witten, when you're ready. Can you hear me? Yes, Dr. Witten. Yeah,

thank you. Pfizer and the rest have no liability, and we have no recourse from injury from these jabs. In October 2019, two months before the first case of COVID, The Gates Foundation with the World Economic Forum held a pandemic simulation called Event 201 to plan for the world's coordinated response in case of an outbreak of let's say a coronavirus. They actually use coronavirus as the hypothetical outbreak pathogen On March 28th, 2019 nine months before the first case of COVID Moderna amended their patent application with the following statement quote because of a concern for re-emergence or a deliberate release of SARS coronavirus vaccine development was initiated. How would Moderna know to be concerned about a re-emergence or deliberate release of a coronavirus in March of 2019?

In 2017 Tony Fauci said that Before the end of Trump's first term, there would definitely be a global pandemic. Just look that up on YouTube. How are these people so psychic? In 2016 Peter Daszak, Director of EcoHealth Alliance who funneled money from NIH to the Wuhan lab reiterated that quote it's a long quote Until an infectious disease crisis is very real present and at an emergency threshold, it is often largely ignored. To sustain the funding beyond the crisis we need to increase public understanding of the need for a pan-influenza or pan-coronavirus vaccine. A key driver is the media and the economics will follow the hype We need to use that hype to our advantage. Investors will respond if they see profit at the end of the process, end quote.

Please people wake up! If this were about health don't you think the crisis would have been over by now? COVID is now a huge industry it's profitable to keep it going. India had no COVID in 2019 because they used Ivermectin regularly.

Thank You Dr. Witten that is your time

We will now go to Aaron Chadwick to be followed by Dan Pankratz.

In my tiny circle of friends in our local community, I now know five people who have been severely injured by these experimental vaccines. I've been bringing the meals to them weekly and donating to their hospital and medical expenses because three of them can no longer function doing daily tasks like cooking a meal. In fact one lies in bed all day another is on a walker and the third is in a wheelchair A description in their words of the adverse events that they're experiencing are within an hour of getting the vaccine, severe neuropathy began which feels like jellyfish are stinging you over and over and last throughout the day and night with nerve pain so severe sleep feels impossible.

One of the five is my work colleague Susan who experienced myocarditis from her Pfizer shot and my neighbor Amanda who got myocarditis had her immune system plummet, lost vision in her right eye while getting shingles within an hour of her Pfizer shot. Dear board members would you be willing to join me in caring for these community members? Doss, Bob, Joan, Greg, Steve There are open dates on their meal train. I've sent them all to you in an email. Are you willing to sign up? Would you take a minute and listen to their stories? They're willing to talk to you! If you're not convinced that there are real risks to this vaccine, I invite you to come meet the injured. Where there is risk, there must be choice, and choices not being coerced at the expense of our livelihoods and our health.

Who exactly are these mandates protecting? Consider that as of September 1st, 2021 just 23 days ago the CDC updated their definitions of vaccination swapping out the prior verbiage that vaccines would produce immunity to now the new verbiage that says vaccines can only provide protection. It's in regards to the individual. On August 6th, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky on CNN acknowledged that the vaccine does not prevent transmission in fully vaccinated individuals so I ask you board members is it now your job to protect us from ourselves? It doesn't make any sense please look at my email that I sent you please I'll come and pick you all up I have a 15 passenger van you can come and meet my

friends this

is important We will now go to Dan Pankratz to be followed by Mickey Hamill.

Hello,

Dan Pancratz here. I appreciate you guys allowing me to speak to you guys today. I've listened to all the other public comments and there's coming all from one side of a side that does not agree with what is going on in the public right now. I believe that they're intelligent people on both sides of the argument of what's going on with COVID And I also believe that there's corruption on both sides of the argument of COVID. I urge you guys as the Board of Supervisors, the people that represent us as the community to hear what people are saying. There has not been one person has come today that has been agreeing with what's going on in our schools and in our community with regards to the mandates of COVID. I don't agree with them. I'm a father of four children, I've done business on this community and as a business person that looks at numbers the numbers don't make sense you guys are very intelligent people and i encourage you guys to continue to look at this thing from both sides of the argument realizing that there are intelligent people and corrupt people and the thing is i don't have to give you the numbers the numbers are right in front of us but you guys As a community, as leaders.

We need to do what's right for the people in our community, not what's right in the world we need to look at what's going on in our Santa Barbara County and orchid where I live, and what is important to the kids and the students and the parents and what the people are saying and the people are saying in this meeting that they don't agree with what's going on. I appreciate the role you guys have in our community and how important it is, and the tough decisions you guys make. So I encourage you guys to keep it up and thank you for allowing us to speak as a community. I appreciate you guys all. Thank you.

Thank you Dan.

We will now go to Mickey Hamill to be followed by Cindy Sawyer who's our final speaker. My apologies, we did have an additional log in who had signed up timely and that we are going to Mickey Hamill to be followed by Greg Camel.

Hi. Good morning. Um, let

me see. I'm looking for my okay. Mickey, hold on just a moment. It sounds like you have two devices going if you can true enough?

Yes.

Thank you. If you can mute one device and just use your microphone.

Good.

That would be great. Thank you.

Good morning everyone. Thank you for your time. We are here this morning to talk about the COVID and what we know about it. And If you think about it, I believe in my heart. It's actually incredibly the young who will if they avoid getting the virus will contribute to a herd immunity and it's been proven in other countries. We're just not looking at all the data and so children avoid the illness If enough people in the community have strong natural immunity, excuse me if the children avoiding the illness is not a badge of honor. It's if enough people in the community have strong natural immunity, the virus has no susceptible people according to my script and basically runs into an immunological brick wall. And we should read and learn how true herd immunity works because that's what's gonna contribute To getting over COVID, it's not the vaccine necessarily.

There are therapeutics there are Children are greater risk with the vaccine and the vaccine does nothing really to contribute to herd immunity because it doesn't prevent the transmission. And it's just that's not working, we can see the numbers. It's not working and if you know if we don't understand that I'm sorry so really there is no badge of honor as we're saying for taking the vaccine because all you're doing is really taking something that may be wrong for you And it's your choice, it's not anyone else's. It could be a poison to someone and it could weaken your own innate immune system especially if you've had COVID.

So it's really not a badge of honor to get

this experimental.

Yes thank you Ms. Hamill

We will now go to Greg Hammel, to be followed by Cindy Sawyer.