BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 January 25, 2022

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0:04 – 0:0915 turns

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.564:16

Good morning. I'll call to order this January 25, 2022 meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors here in the Santa Barbara hearing room. Madam

Pledge of Allegianceceremonial · click to expand · ≈23s recited, not transcribed
UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:28

Clerk will you please call the roll? I gather Supervisor Williams is stuck in traffic about an accident so he'll be here in a few minutes. Please stand and join me in

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.564:39

the pledge.

The next item of business is approval of minutes from January 11, 2022. May I have a motion and a second?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:18

I'll move to approve the minutes. Second.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:21

And any further discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes. CEO Miyasato isn't with us today, we have Assistant CEO Frapwell. Is there a CEO report today?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:38

No report today.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:40

Okay and clerk announcements

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:43

Chair Hartman and members of the board, thank you. I have a couple quick announcements this morning. I would like to announce that we received a request to withdraw administrative item number five. Administrative item number five is sponsored by The community services department. It is to consider recommendations regarding a conditional reservation of funding to the housing authority of the County of Santa Barbara Housing Authority for a home key program application in Santa Maria and this is in the 5th district and we did receive and post a memorandum requesting to withdraw this item on January 21st And that has been uploaded online and has been distributed to the board.

In addition, I would just like to remind the public that the Board of Supervisors meetings are being interpreted and broadcast live in Spanish. We are broadcasting our meetings in Spanish both for Cox cable subscribers in South County as well as Comcast cable subscribers in North County. Members of the public can now view our meetings in Spanish by turning on the secondary audio programming also known as SAP or S-A-P under their language settings.

Please note that today December, excuse me I apologize Lastly, I would like to remind the public who are participating in our meeting today of the board's updated methods of public participation. For the Board of Supervisors methods of public participation and to provide public comment on general public comment or an item on the board's agenda please see page 2 of the agenda.

Members of the public can attend meetings in person at both the Santa Barbara Hearing Room Chambers and the Santa Maria Hearing Room Chambers. Please note on December 3rd, 2021 an additional county health officer order went into effect requiring indoor mask usage for everyone over two years of age regardless of vaccination status. If you attend the board meeting in person you will be required to wear a face covering mask or face shield with drape at all times regardless of vaccination status information regarding how to properly wear a mask has been posted throughout both locations Individuals that would like to provide verbal public comment virtually may do so via Zoom by registering in advance via the link available on page 2.

After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing important information about joining the virtual meeting. Once the chair has announced the item you want to comment on, please join the meeting with the information provided and the registration confirmation email. You will be placed on mute until it is your turn to speak. The clerk will call you by name or remove from mute, you will hear a notification that your line has been unmuted.

If you are using a touchtone phone, you may need to press star six to unmute yourself again if you're using a touchtone phone, you may need to press star six to unmute yourself. Each person may address the board for up to three minutes and this is at the discretion of the chair. If you have any questions please contact 8 0 5 5 6 8 2 2 4 0 again that's 8 05 568 2240 and that concludes my announcements for today.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.568:45

Thank you and so now we'll turn to our administrative agenda would any board members like to pull any item? Supervisor Lavanino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.878:57

Well Madam Chair I'd just like to comment on the removal of A-5

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.569:03

Okay, and any other board members have

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.879:06

items? I

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.569:08

also

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed9:12

have A8. Supervisor

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.569:13

Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed9:14

Chair Hartman, thank you. Also would like to comment on A5 and then a couple questions on A18 and roll call vote on A19.

0:09 – 0:1414 turns

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.569:30

And do any members of the public have any item they would like to pull?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role9:35

Chair Hartman and members of the board, we have a request to speak on administrative item number five.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.569:39

Okay. Will you read administrative item number five into the record please?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role9:46

Yes, thank you Chair Hartman and members of the board. Administrative item number five as previously read into the record is sponsored by the Community Services Department. It is to consider recommendations regarding a conditional reservation of funding so that housing authority of the County of Santa Barbara Housing Authority for our home key program application in Santa Maria and this is in the 5th district. And just a reminder to the board and the public we did receive a request to withdraw this item from the agenda today.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5610:12

OK Supervisor Lavanino

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8710:15

Did we have a member of the public? I'd rather go to the public first. All right,

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role10:19

sure. And we will now go to Zoom with Carlos Escombido. Carlos.

PresenterCarlos EscobedoCity Council member for District 1 in the city of Santa Maria and the reason ofProposedself-stated10:34

Hello, can you hear me?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5610:35

We can indeed.

PresenterCarlos EscobedoCity Council member for District 1 in the city of Santa Maria and the reason ofProposedself-stated10:38

Hello, good morning Chair and members of the Board. My name is Carlos Escobedo and I serve as a City Council member for District 1 in the city of Santa Maria and the reason of my participation today is to request to not close this conversation about the item. I think it's one of the items that should be part of our conversation within the City Council City Council meeting and it's worth having this conversation before or in our agenda. So I definitely would like you guys to not close this opportunity and yeah, appreciate all your work and have a great day.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5611:29

Thank You councilmember. Supervisor Lavenino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8711:32

Well, thank you Madam Chair. So with this item there is a deadline of I believe January 31st for a specific portion of applications but it doesn't mean...I think the real deadline is somewhere in March where we'd have to submit an application that would be competitive at that point I think this was one that was almost a guarantee for us. It's a $17 million grant from the state, and this is to purchase the Motel 6 on East Main in Santa Maria to address the homeless issue.

I did have conversations with Mayor Patino, Council Member Waterfield, and a member of the Santa Maria Police Department who were all very strongly opposed for a number of reasons. In bringing this to their attention, I realized the only way that something like this was going to succeed is that we would have a collaborative partnership with the city and the county working together. And when they expressed their very strong opposition to it, I realized that we were not going to be successful. We could move forward with it. Staff had indicated that we could continue to apply for the money but I have come to believe The city and the county working together is just not going to happen. So I appreciate what Councilmember Escobedo indicated that they would like to discuss this at a future agenda.

I think if we pull it off of our agenda, let them try to discuss it there, try to build some support because they did raise some very legitimate concerns. We've had some housing authority projects in the City of Santa Maria. We have a couple of them right now that aren't I think that the way we all envisioned them, that they would perform. So I think there's some work that still needs to be done on this. I don't think the issue is completely closed and if we can show the city and work together with the city that we're going to address all of their concerns, I think before March we might be in a position to come back and reapply for this money.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5613:50

I would like to close public comment, but because you wanted to hear from the public before all the supervisors spoke we do have an additional public speaker Mr. Caldwell so we'll go ahead and then come back to the board.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role14:04

Chair Herman and members of the board will now go to zoom for Andy Caldwell Good morning Mr. Caldwell And Andy, we have unmuted you on our end if you can unmute on your end and provide your comments.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed14:30

Okay there we go. Thank you, Chair Hart. I want to thank Supervisor Lavinino for being responsive to the City of Santa Maria. As many of you know, I've been watching the county for 30 years and I've never ever in that 30 years seen the County of Santa Barbara launch a project With this potential for controversy without collaborating and consulting with the affected party. I mean, if somebody wants to build a patio you make them notify everybody within X number of feet yards or miles.

And in this case, Santa Maria was going to lose bed tax property tax and plus incur the costs of related security which they did at another facility. They've had a 1000% increase in law enforcement calls and one of these other facilities. So the collegial thing to do, the respectful thing to do is you are one government entity. They are another one. The neighbors didn't know about this. It's a little more than a block away from a school.

They wanna know for instance, are these people screened for alcohol drugs criminal record? You're a block and a half away from a junior high school. Andrew on Main Street, this is the gateway to Santa Maria off of the 101 freeway. And the first thing they're gonna come within one block of a homeless shelter? Maybe you could make it work I doubt it but by golly should have asked first.

This should have been agendized on the Santa Maria City Council weeks ago if not months ago when it was still a gleam in your eye. So we want to thank Supervisor Lavinino for representing his constituents. But in reality, they're all of your constituents and we want you to treat them like you want to be treated government-to-government because again, You know, I didn't like the way this thing was agendized either.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed16:47

And it just mentioned on the agenda, it just mentioned the street address. It didn't say anything about Motel 6 and that we're going to buy this is going to be a homeless shelter. This whole thing had subterfuge written all over it. And it's just not a good way to treat the largest city in the county that has their own problems. And my final point, why not write a check to the city of Santa Maria for 20 million and say hey here's money we got let's cooperate what project would you like in the city of Santa Maria? Thank you.

Thank you very

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8717:27

much. I think the reason why it was agendized so quickly is because there was a deadline that the state had put out, and so we agendized it. And we did go speak with the city and we did listen to their concerns. But the problem I see on all of these homeless issues—and we're going to run into this as we move forward with them—is there is no solution. There's no easy answer if the Motel 6 on Main Street is not the place.

I don't know where it is. Everybody's always telling me, well we don't want it here, we don't want it there and as far as saying that people get off the freeway at Main Street and the first thing they're going to see is a homeless shelter, well the first thing they're going to see if they're coming into Santa Maria is a huge homeless encampment the size of a small city in the riverbed that nobody's addressing. We're trying to move those people to a certain spot in a humane way and provide services.

But if we don't have a building to put them in, the rest of these things are just shuffling people around. So the encampments are in the riverbed. They're all along the 101 freeway. They're on every street corner. I hear about it constantly from folks but when you want to move them and put them into a shelter there's never a good location to do it and we run into all kinds of opposition so if somebody has a different I'm all ears. I'm looking for solutions.

We all know what the problem is, we can restate the problem over and over again but if we don't have a solution and coming up with ideas like let's just give them bus tickets and send them to Las Vegas those aren't legal responses to the homeless issue so these folks are from Santa Maria and we have to deal with them in Santa Maria and so we're going to have to build something or remodel something That's an existing building to deal with this situation. So I'm all ears, honestly what I heard from the city was more there weren't a lot of solutions. I'd be happy to collaborate and work as a partnership on solutions but you know I'm looking for a way to make this happen.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5620:06

I think Supervisor Hart

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed20:09

Yeah, I appreciate Supervisor Lavanino's comments. An opportunity that isn't quite ripe and we need to take time to get everybody on the same page so that we can be successful. That was the original comment that Supervisor Lavagnino made, and I'm going to hang onto that because these things are not simple. It took us multiple attempts to be successful with the Super 8 Motel in the City of Goleta. This may take on that kind of process in the city of Santa Maria too but I know that Supervisor Lavinino very eloquently stated the challenge. We have folks who are unhoused, who are living in our communities and every community in the County of Santa Barbara and the answer is to get them indoors and to provide the services that they need to get their lives back on track.

And that's what we're all committed to doing. Well done, and I think appropriately there are questions about the operation of some County Housing Authority properties that need to be resolved. And if we need to put additional resources to make sure those projects are working the way they're intended, I think you have a commitment of the full board to do that.

It's good to hear that we need to do better, and we will do that. And as a result of that I think we can demonstrate success and then we can get a willing partner who is willing to move forward. But if we don't have sites, we're going to have encampments and we're going to have folks living on the street, and it's a really simple choice. And I think the public ultimately understands that but there requires some additional dialogue and some additional work to get everybody on the same page so that we can go to the State With an effective application and be successful and deliver what folks are looking for.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5621:58

Supervisor Nielsen?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed22:00

Thank you, Chair Hartman. First of all I just want to thank Supervisor Lavigno for his leadership on this. You know we both represent the City of Santa Maria in large portions of the Santa Maria Valley and he really took the lead on this issue with the city. And I think it highlights that You know, we have this elected leaders forum that's regional trying to deal with these regional issues. But unfortunately and it's not any criticism but Supervisors Lavender and I don't sit on that so we don't get to have these kind of conversations with the City of Santa Maria and so I think it's been highlighted through this process is that we need to have that kind of dialogue whether it's formal or informal to be addressing these issues far in advance.

Moving forward you know I had a lot of heartburn about this. The location is not my favorite place. I don't think anybody prefers it But the other hand, $17 million coming down from the state. which if we don't use it here, it's gonna be put somewhere else in the state. And those are our tax dollars. I mean they're gonna be moved somewhere. So it's not free money, it's still taxed but whether it's gonna go to benefit our community or somebody else's community is the question here and so I think we need to be engaged in this process and potentially go after these funds but I emailed every city council member, I emailed the city manager and the police chief talked to the assistant city manager My question to everybody was again, if not here where?

We need to have a comprehensive strategy here. To address the encampments and the streets sleeping means that we have to have capacity. Now there's a question on whether capacity exists in the City of Santa Maria or not. That's I guess somewhat of a debate but I think we need to flesh that out. But this is just one piece of the puzzle. More significantly, I think is suffering from people sleeping in their cars. There's a large population of RV and car sleepers going on in our community and we all need to work together to address those things.

This board, the city of Santa Maria, the county has my commitment that I will continue to work on these things. I'm okay with moving past this deadline but looking to future deadline to potentially secure these funds to be used in a way that we can all support.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5624:10

Thank you. Is Mr. Chapshian available? I just wanted further clarification about the January versus the March and just hear from him about what's still possible if this item is withdrawn.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed24:27

Thank you, Chair Hartman. Yes I'm available. The January 31st deadline is I think the early process for the applications so what happens is if you're competing with the Central Coast and I think there's about 37 million available for the Central Coast which includes Paso Robles, Monterey and us that area Once you once you go beyond that deadline, you're now competing statewide for that money. So with the March 31st, you're not competing with Los Angeles, San Francisco, some of the other bigger regions. So this was an opportune time to really apply for the 17 million here. It's going to be a tougher challenge with the other deadline with the March 31st.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5625:13

Thank you for that clarification. I participate with Supervisor Hart who chairs the elected leaders forum each of the eight cities comes although Santa Maria hasn't always been there so we hope they will make a real effort to have someone there in the future Because it is an opportunity to learn about model ordinances for safe parking, for example. And hear from other cities in the county what we're doing.

The fundamental assumption for the elected leaders group is that this is a regional issue and we're not going to solve it by trying to close down a camp in one area because as Supervisor Lavinino It's not an easy issue. It's probably the most complex issue we face, because it's got so many different aspects to it. And money is available now and we sure hate to let it go because it'll go to some other community and we won't have an opportunity to deal with it.

And I have to say that we at the county are also learning how better to manage these facilities in conjunction with our partners such as Good Samaritan.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5627:08

In Isla Vista, which is my primary experience, the new shelter there is being run extremely well with very few impacts on the neighborhood. There's a curfew at night, there are rules for this facility. And really people are putting pressure residents on each other to live up to that. So unless we take this positive view and embrace this while we have funds to do it which we've never had before, we're just gonna have a festering problem And so it really depends on each of us shouldering our share of it. So I very much hope that's what we'll see going forward.

So what I'd like to do, Supervisor Nelson. Yeah sure

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed27:57

Hartman thank you just wanted to add a couple pieces that were brought up there. One is that what Mr. Chapman mentioned was will go back into that pile but when I understand from staff from Kimberly Alberts When our application does go in, if we do submit an application it will be reviewed in the order that it's received. So we still do have some urgency to move forward with this in the future and get together with the City of Santa Maria because we can't move forward without a partner with this and we need to get on the same page. I don't think it's actually that hard of a decision is that we need to do it again. The question is where? I mean, it's a question here is between you know, do we want encampments? Do we want people sleeping on the streets or do we wanna have them indoors And they can be, you know, worked with so that we could potentially get some positive solutions instead of just throwing up our hands and saying that there's nothing we can do.

You know most the times in the past we've thrown up our hands because there has been no money. Well now we're throwing up our hands because I'm not sure why because we don't believe it will work What might be out there and we're also afraid of those impacts. And you know, I am too and we're all going to be accountable for that city center Maria will be Steve and I will be with our constituents but I think what we think we're able to do is if we can sell something a better future for our community in the end that's something that might be able make a difference and keep us moving forward thank you

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5629:25

And I think you made a very important point, Supervisor Nelson that we must do this in partnership with the cities. We're not going to take on the entire financial responsibility. We need everybody to step up and housing is a municipal service and it's both the county and the cities that have a responsibility Supervisor Hart, did you have a final word? All right.

I propose that we just fold this in the continuance into the balance of the agenda our motion then and go on to A8. Madam Clerk.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role30:04

Chair Hartman and members of the board administrative item number eight is from the county executive office. It is to consider recommendations regarding a microbusiness COVID-19 relief grant MBCRG program from the Office of Small Business Advocate Cal OSBA Grant Award, and there is a fourth this vote required on this item.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5630:24

Supervisor Lovenino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8730:25

Madam chair I just wanted to highlight this and I had one question and that is if there were The only limit I saw and what is it was impacted with COVID from COVID, which I think is just about everything. But so I've already gotten calls in my office. Am I just directing these folks now to the Santa Barbara Foundation? How do they apply for the twenty five hundred dollars?

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction30:50

Madam Chairman, Assistant CEO Nancy Anderson's here for this item.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5630:55

Terrific. Miss Anderson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed30:58

Supervisor Lavinino through the chair. Once we actually get the funds, this is being administered through the Santa Barbara Foundation so it'll be on their website with your other grant activity and we will be notifying the public once that becomes final. This is a grant agreement to get the funds coming to the county.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8731:20

Excellent. Can you just let us know when those funds do show up so that and if you could send us a link so that I can post it? Absolutely, we'll

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed31:27

do that to all the board members.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8731:28

Thank you very much.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5631:30

Thank you. So that concludes A8 on to A18.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role31:40

Chair Hartman and members of the board. Administrative item number 18 is from the Public Health Department. It is to consider recommendations regarding an emergency memorandum of agreement extension for mutual aid with the 37th District Agricultural Association for Santa Maria Fair Park for COVID-19 testing.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5632:00

And Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed32:01

Yeah, I just had a couple questions for staff on this item. One is there any forward looking It's been good revenue for them when they're not able to do their typical rentals that they use to maintain. But I think there's some question out there on On what, how long that relationship is gonna go so that they can start to begin to plan for when and if things open up that they can start to rent out those facilities for revenue. So I was just hoping to see if I could get some clarification on from public health on that as well as is it maybe because they have to plan in the future? Is it maybe are we anticipating a roll this contract with them every three months or are we just gonna do a month at a time after this one? I think that'd be helpful for my office understand.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5633:00

And I believe Dr. Del Reynoso is with us this morning.

CommentAnd Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction33:05

Yes, Supervisor Nelson through the chair we anticipate extending the relationship with the fairgrounds for now and this is what we have in place given The relationship with our OptumServe, which is our state partner in delivering the testing. So we they have been a tremendous partner to us first in vaccination and then in testing so we anticipate extending the contract as soon as we hear what the state is willing to support us with regards to both vaccination and testing.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed33:51

Thank you, Dr. Doberman. So do you have any idea how I guess the fear is that at some point we'll get to a week or two out from and be done with the contract and not have any notice for them? So I want to in if anyway possible for us to be able give them as much lead time so they can see and I know with COVID things are dynamic and they change but you know we still We have a partner here that we need to make sure that we're helping them along so they can see, you know, weeks and months out in the future. You know there's a big hope in our community after it's been gone for a couple years getting our fair back, the Santa Barbara County Fair which is a huge highlight in the Santa Maria Valley every year that we haven't been able to participate in and that's also home of that as well.

So those conversations I want to make sure that we're thinking about and engaged with. So that's why I wanted to highlight that. The other question I do have and so this That with the testing at the OptumServe locations that people are waiting sometimes five, seven days to get results. And I think that is problematic when that period of time is sometimes longer than the potential

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5635:00

quarantine period. Supervisor Nelson, I think we're gonna get to that in a D item so it may be more appropriate to bring that issue up later and just deal with the lease for the moment if that's okay with you?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed35:11

That's fine, Chair Harmon.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5635:12

Okay. So your question about the lease, you just want to have as much notice as possible when it winds down.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed35:22

Yes, thank

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5635:23

you Chairman. Okay and I'm sure Dr. Doreno also took careful note of that. Madam Clerk will you read item A-19 into the record?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role35:33

Chair Hartman and members of the board, administrative item number 19 is from the Public Health Department. It is to consider recommendations regarding an agreement with Fighting Back Santa Maria Valley for COVID-19 vaccination incentives. And chair Hartman, we did receive an additional request to speak from the public on this

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5635:51

item. I actually closed public comment, but I will allow at this time. It's an important issue. So why don't we go to public comment and come back to Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role36:05

Chair Hartman and members of the board, we will now go to Zoom for Edwin Weaver.

PresenterEdwin WeaverFighting Back Santa Maria ValleyProposedself-stated36:17

Edwin, please proceed. Thank you. Good afternoon everybody. I don't know how to make my screen show. It's

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5636:25

okay it's a pretty view and we can hear you so go ahead.

PresenterEdwin WeaverFighting Back Santa Maria ValleyProposedself-stated36:28

Okay it's a campsite that I went to before the fires anyway uh my name is Edwin Weaver. I'm the Executive Director of Fighting Back Santa Maria Valley. I appreciate your time this morning um as you know we've partnered with our Community members and the public health department to increase vaccine opportunities and accessibility through. Coordination with our schools in our churches, and anybody else who would host a vaccine clinic so it's accessible to the community as well as being able to provide incentives for folks to consider vaccine.

For themselves and their family. I think the incentives are important because many of the clinics are during working hours, it's very difficult for families to get to the clinics they have to take time off or rearrange your schedule. And so by providing incentives, it just gives them that little nudge and to participate in this important medical decision. So we're thankful for that application to receive the funds and to distribute them to the community so that folks will continue to be vaccinated and boosted. Thank you.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5637:36

Thank you. Thank you for being such a good partner with the county public health supervisor Nelson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed37:42

Yes I was looking for a roll call vote on this but I will comment It's no reflection of how I feel about fighting back San Raybali and Mr. Weaver, they're great partners. I'm a little uncomfortable with the cash incentives for vaccines just the relationship between Those that are making that medical decision for themselves, those who might not be able to take the vaccine for some medical reason. So I'm in favor of vaccinations. I've encouraged that. I just a little bit less comfortable with cash incentives so I'm going to actually go

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5638:17

no. May I have a motion to approve this item?

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction38:20

Motion to

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8738:20

approve.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5638:20

A second?

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction38:22

Second.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5638:23

All in favor please say aye. Aye. Any opposed?

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction38:27

No.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5638:28

Okay, so now I will entertain a motion to approve the balance of our administrative agenda including the withdrawal of A5.

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CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction38:38

So moved.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5638:40

I think Supervisor Nelson moved and we'll take a second from Supervisor Williams. Any further discussion? All in favor say aye. Any opposed? The administrative agenda is passed and we turn to resolutions to be presented. We turn to administrative item number 26, and that was brought by Supervisor Williams, and I'm very grateful for that. This is the first in our cultural recognition initiative.

And Madam Clerk please read that into the record.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role39:19

Chair Hartman and members of the board, administrative item number 26 is sponsored by Supervisor Williams. It is to adopt a resolution proclaiming January 27th 2022 as International Holocaust Remembrance Day in Santa Barbara County and joining us today and receiving in person is Dan Meisel ADL Regional Director and receiving and joining us via Zoom today we have Mike Wolfe who is our Holocaust survivor, Rabbi Cohen, and Josie Martin from the SB Jewish Federation. Thank you and I'll go ahead and read the resolution Whereas the Holocaust was the state-sponsored systemic persecution and annihilation of European Jewry by Nazi Germany and its collaborators between 1933 and 1945, six million Jews were murdered. Roma, gypsies, people with disabilities, and Poles were also targeted for destruction or decimation for racial, ethnic, or national reasons, and millions more including LGBTQ plus individuals Jehovah's Witnesses, Soviet prisoners of war and political descendants also suffered grievous oppression and death under Nazi tyranny.

And whereas the history of the Holocaust offers an opportunity to reflect on the moral responsibilities of individuals, societies and governments. And whereas we, the people of the County of Santa Barbara should always remember the terrible events of the Holocaust and remain vigilant against hatred, persecution and tyranny And whereas, we the people of the County of Santa Barbara should actively rededicate ourselves to the principles of individual freedom in a just society.

And whereas, the days of remembrance have been set aside for the people of the County of Santa Barbara to remember the victims of the Holocaust as well as reflect on the need for respect of all peoples. And whereas pursuant to United Nations General Assembly unanimously adopted a resolution designated January 27th as Holocaust Remembrance Day. And whereas the County of Santa Barbara would like to thank the efforts of the Jewish Federation of Greater Santa Barbara, Anti-Defamation League of Santa Barbara, San Ines Valley Jewish Community, And Congregation B'nai B'rit and all the community organizations and members that have helped remember the lives tragically lost, and have provided the community with opportunity to learn the historical value of remembrance.

And now therefore be it hereby ordered a resolve that this Board of Supervisors adopt this resolution proclaiming January 27th 2022 As days of remembrance and memory of the victims of the Holocaust, and in honor of the survivors as well as the rescuers and liberators. And further proclaim that we as citizens of the County of Santa Barbara should work to promote human dignity and confront hate whenever and wherever it occurs. Passed and adopted today.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5642:20

Thank you Mr. Meisel for being here today

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed42:30

Director for the Anti-Defamation League, Santa Barbara Tri-County's office. I thank you Supervisor Williams for introducing this resolution and for the board's adoption adding our county's voice to those around the world recognizing International Holocaust Remembrance Day. Our office is certainly honored to be mentioned in it along with the other local organizations who regularly speak up and share facts about the holocaust for the purpose of preventing similar atrocities and to preserve the many lessons learned from it.

Education is a huge part of meaningful remembrance, and ADL's surveys confirm that education is the key to confronting and preventing hate. I'm particularly thankful to those who continue to share their personal experiences of that painful time. I recall the impact vividly of my first time hearing such an account when I was a student at La Colina Junior High, and the speaker happened to be my aunt Judy Meisel Who is widely known and appreciated in our community and beyond, both for sharing her harrowing experience of loss and survival.

And for bringing people from different backgrounds together around her Shabbat dinner table to foster mutual understanding. I'm also thankful to the many local educators so committed to supporting their students' understanding of this and other genocides, the choices made by individuals, governments, leaders and larger societies that can lead to genocide or prevent it.

All hate doesn't lead to genocide but understanding that dynamics of the hate that did helps us recognize threats to human dignity in all its forms. My aunt stressed the importance of reflecting on the past for its relevance to the present. And our presence sadly includes recent trends of anti-Semitic incidents, including as we saw again in Colleyville violent targeting, violent targeting of the Jewish community.

History tells us that anti-Semitism tends to increase in times of political polarization, distrust in government institutions and threats to public welfare, including pandemics. The same factors impact other often marginalized communities, and we've seen a rise in hate crimes and incidents against those groups as well. The necessary response to these incidents is a combination of communal condemnation and meaningful engagement.

This resolution contributes to both. Some may say that resolutions are merely words, but that brings to mind ADL's former and longtime national director Abe Foxman, a hidden child during the Holocaust who said, Auschwitz did not begin with bricks. It began with words, hateful words, words of prejudice and they were permitted to proceed to violence because of the absence of words.

Commemorating this day in this way prompts us to talk, to reflect, to share facts, to learn and to speak up in defense of others. Those inspired to deeper engagement and learning can find it in those precious first-person narratives at museums that inform about genocide and in the resources and professional development provided by ADL's Echoes & Reflections education team and from the other organizations recognized today.

Thank you.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5645:44

Thank you. Supervisor Williams?

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction45:47

Well, I just wanna thank you for being here and thank the ADL for their continued work to create a society and to foster a society that is not infected with hate. And to me this is such an important occasion of remembrance because of the necessity to perceive darkness I think that our society, you know and our struggles with first world problems can make us lulled into the belief that darkness doesn't exist or that darkness is somewhere else.

And I... Or that darkness does not happen a little bit at a time as has been the historical experience. I also am proud to have it here today because we're blessed to have two Holocaust survivors, Mike Wolfe and Josie Martin, and 12 members of the SB Jewish Federation that won't be speaking but will be on Zoom. I'm going to have the clerk just call them in order, but I think the other part is the perception of light because I hope that Our world never experiences an experience like this.

I hope against hope that that is the case, but I know that in the experiences of this kind of darkness we can learn from people who have lived through it about the power of the human spirit, the power of faith and how to understand and be light in that darkness.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5648:09

Thank you. Madam Clerk, you'll call each is that or Mr. Wolf?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role48:21

Chair Hartman and members of the board, yes joining us on Zoom we have Mike Wolfe who is a Holocaust survivor. Rabbi Cohen senior rabbi of Congregation Benet-Brett. Josie Martin from the SB Jewish Federation and a number of members from the SB Jewish Federation members that I will now read. I apologize if I mispronounce any names Sandy Kieveman Cindy Silverman, Ruby Vargasen, Anise Pellegrini, Evelie Laser-Szelenski, Lauren Katz, Roberta Wiseglass, Skona Britton, Lynn Glassman, Lyle Medved, Carol Fox and Halissa Lementhal.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5649:05

Thank you and Mr. Wolfe would you like to address the board?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed49:11

Sure thank you very much Can you hear me?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5649:14

Yes, loud and clear. Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed49:16

you. Thank you for having me. I tell my story to a lot of students as many as I can get through the Holocaust Museum in L.A., as well as through my granddaughter's school in Santa Ana and as well as here through the Federation. I was born in Germany in 1936 but my story really begins With Kristallnacht. That is the night that the Nazis really came out of the closet, you know they burned over 1000 Jewish synagogues, community centers etc. You know they vandalized 7500 odd Jewish businesses and they arrested 30,000 Jewish men roughly between the age 18 and 50.

My father was also arrested on that night. What Kristallnacht actually started in Great Britain was a movement to take in 10,000 children roughly between the ages of 2 and 15 to get them out of harm's way. The British people passed a law almost immediately And allow these kids to come in. Kristallnacht was November 9th, 1938 and on December 2nd, 1938 the first shipment arrived in London of roughly 180 kids from a Jewish orphanage in Berlin that had been actually burned down by the Nazis on Kristallnacht. I was lucky that a family in Glasgow, Scotland decided that they wanted to adopt a little boy.

And through several connections my mother got a call from my aunt who worked for the organization in Berlin and had this information so my mother decided to give me up and send me to Scotland. So on June 13th 1939 My mother took me to Berlin and then to Hamburg where she handed me over to one of the older children, a 13-15 year old child or girl and asked her to take care of me.

At that time she had no idea whether she would ever see me again so I sailed over to Great Britain and I was met by Mr. Ness The gentleman who adopted me though, the Ness family Mr. Mrs. Ness and their daughter Anita took me into their home for the duration. So I went to, he took me out to Glasgow Scotland where I stayed like for the duration or was supposed to stay for the duration.

My mother was back in Germany and managed to get my dad out of jail. And he also managed to follow me to Great Britain in August of 1938, where he was kept in what they used to call them concentration camps. They were actually more like work camps. Great Britain was in the middle of a depression and they didn't want these foreigners to take away the jobs from the locals so they kept them in work camps.

And my mother also managed to get a visa for herself Bolivia, South America. That's the only country that she was able to obtain a visa. She wanted her sister and her father to go with her but they both refused. My grandfather was getting up in age and he says you know I fought for Germany in World War II and they're not going to do anything to me. Well my mother sailed in early January of 1940 and got to Bolivia Where she had to start a new life with almost nothing.

You know, she had a few dollars in her pocket and if you have a few household items that actually managed to get it door. And she was lucky to get a job with the German lawyer whose partner was a state senator. And she obtained visas from my father and I. In yellow communicated of course via table Graham in those days with my father and eventually after several tries, my father and I managed to leave Great Britain in December of 1940. And we sailed across the Atlantic.

I vividly remember the crossing. I remember going to our lifeboat stations with our jackets on and hearing the guns of the ship, our ship as well as the ship around us going off And eventually we got to South America, to Bolivia where I met this strange woman who was my birth mother. Their goal had always been to come to the United States. My father could have come straight from Great Britain but opted to go to Bolivia of course to reunite with my mother.

A quirk occurred that my father was born in Germany but actually The town he was born in became Polish after World War I, so he was considered to be a Polish citizen. So we had to wait 10 years before his number finally came up and in 1952, in March of 52, we came to this country and we were thankfully allowed to come in and we ended up in Memphis, Tennessee Where my mother had a cousin and they sponsored us so we wouldn't go. And that's basically my story.

We eventually, we lost track of the Ness family, the people that adopted me but eventually in 1992 for just by coincidence as it were I managed to get in touch with the Ness family and my kids are Are now in touch with the grandkids and great-grandkids of the Ness family that thankfully saved my life. That's basically my story for today.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5656:11

Thank you, and what a courageous mother you had and how wrenching that decision to hand you off.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed56:19

She was a very strong woman. She never liked to talk about it. It was just way too painful for her.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5656:25

Well, thank you for sharing Rabbi Cohen. Are you next?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role56:32

Yes. Chair Hartman and members of the board, unfortunately I believe Rabbi Cohen had a conflict this morning so he had to log off but we do have Josie Martin also with us from the SB Jewish Federation.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.5656:47

Thank you Miss Martin

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role56:55

Oh, and Josie if you can just unmute yourself.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed56:59

Okay, can you hear me?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role57:01

Yes we can thank you. And your beautiful background.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed57:07

Well I'm a docent with the Santa Barbara Museum of Art so I felt like I had to give a little bit of credit to the Van Gogh exhibit which will open very soon Thank you very much for having me, Mike Wolfe. I'm always so touched by your story. I was a hidden child during World War II and that's a kind of different thing. I was younger in 1944, very early 1944 when the Nazis were about to March through the area of France where I was hidden with a Catholic nun, and I always like to give credit to Cécile Saint-Sibard who took me in at great risk to herself in hiding a Jewish child. But I'm not going to talk about that right now. I'm going to read an article that appeared in the Los Angeles Times on Saturday. It was under the Under the headline, these readers survived the Holocaust.

This is what worries them about America today and here is my piece and it's called Never Again Is Now. When I was a teenager in America, I asked my father what it was like to live in Germany after Hitler came to power. Das kannst du dir nicht vorstellen. You cannot imagine it. At first, my father said we thought it wouldn't be so bad but some things change almost overnight. My boss said I shouldn't visit certain clients because they might not want to do business with a Jew.

But you hadn't changed, I interrupted. My child, you can't understand and God willing you will never have to. The boss said he personally didn't go along with Hitler's Nazi rants, but by 1934 we were no longer invited to their Sunday afternoon cafe clutch. That means their afternoon gathering with coffee and cake. I remember this when a pro-Trump neighbor stopped inviting us to her annual holiday cocktail party Prior to 2016, we respected each other's differing political views. We even joked about it. This changed dramatically after I said to her one day, but look Trump is lying!

That was the end of our conversation and she and her partner retreated to their capsules of collusion for it is a form of collusion when normal ordinary people Look away from facts. It was the same collusion when teachers, lawyers and ministers went along with the Nazi lie that in a pure Germany Aryan supremacy must be returned to das Volk, the people. My parents left Germany for France in 1935. I was born in 1938. Too many of our relatives were gassed in the camps For a time, I wanted to believe that the Nazi era was a never again episode orchestrated by some twisted fascist monsters. I wanted to believe...

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:00:55

Josie, I'm sorry we all of a sudden cannot hear your audio anymore. Did something happen with

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:01:02

your microphone? It's frozen. Yeah

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:01:17

Sorry Josie we are unmuting you on our end if you can unmute.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:01:28

It's not frozen but we're not hearing the audio.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:01:43

Is this better?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:01:44

That's better. Your technical support came through.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:01:49

Okay, I'm almost at the end. When I, after, oh last never again is now. I fear not enough good people remember history. Why are so many people on board with Trump even a year after the coup attempt January 6th? I worry about political things, such as the large number of judges that have been appointed. But there are also other changes that deeply concern me. I wonder about doctors who refuse to call COVID-19 the killer that it is, especially the killer of poor Americans and people of color. My grandmother was a victim of nazification of medicine She had leukemia. It was treatable with transfusions that she received regularly at a blood bank in Frankfurt, Germany.

After the Nuremberg Laws, she was denied pure Aryan blood. Her oldest son who had universal O type blood stayed in Germany to donate blood to her even though he had received an exit visa to America She feared he wouldn't get out in time. She stopped eating, my grandmother died. Where were the good doctors? Journalists who could have demanded this cruelty to stop? Where were the ruling bodies? The city councils, the county councils and where will ours be in 2022 and 2024 If so many election officials have been ousted or quit because they failed to cheat for a would-be fascist dictator, I pray for our democracy. I fear sometimes that it is on life's supports. Thank you.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:03:54

Thank you so very much for being here. We really appreciate the time you all took You know, we remember to learn and we learn so that we do not repeat. It's critical that we do look back and this 27th Remembrance Day is the day that Auschwitz was liberated It is a very solemn occasion. I wanted just to mention when incidents do occur in our communities, it's hard not to know exactly what to do. You don't want to overreact but you don't want to be a complicit bystander and we had something like this in my community of Santa Ynez and the ADL was extremely helpful in advising us and now analyzing Thank you very much for being here.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:05:05

Yes?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:05:06

Oh, Supervisor Hart. I'm sorry.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:05:09

That's quite all right. I just wanted to add my words of thanks to the speakers today. This is such an important occasion to recognize the Holocaust survivors and victims and to redouble our efforts To work with the Anti-Defamation League, which is doing such incredible work. Since 1913 this work began to combat hate for good and the Jewish Federation and Mrs. Martin were very eloquent as well as Mr. Wolf in his amazing story of his own personal on a journey to escape Nazi Germany and the Holocaust of Jews. But I just wanted to end my words with the words that guide the Anti-Defamation League from the Hillel, if I'm not for myself who will be for me?

If I am not for others what am I? And if not now when? And I think that is a great way to recognize this day.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:06:05

Thank you for that. Supervisor Labanino

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:06:09

Thank you, Madam Chair. First off I want to thank you for bringing this and then for us to recognize these different days of remembrance and for Supervisor Williams for picking this one. I think this is the perfect lead-off.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:06:23

And so quickly.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:06:24

Yes. Mr. Wolf's story was unbelievable. The choices people had to make and other people that stepped up in times of crisis, just amazing. I had an occasion to be at the DC Holocaust Memorial Museum and as I was walking through it was very quiet, very somber and a bunch of students showed And they were, you know, mid-teenagers. And as teenagers will, they were loud and they were probably not grasping the concept yet. As I walked in, I was gonna go to one of the employees there and say hey, this is probably not appropriate.

And within a minute of them being in that building and just started looking around, the whole mood just changed. And so I think what Mr. Wolf has done with it is something that we have to continue to pass on to the next generation of never again and To be open to be able to it's a hard thing to discuss with kids and but it's absolutely necessary So that you know, we do never have to experience this again. So many thanks to all those that put it together and all those who spoke today

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:07:51

All right. So with that, we're turning to the next item in our agenda today and that is general public comment. Are there any speakers who wish to speak on matters not on today's agenda? Madam Clerk? Chair Hartman

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:08:08

and members of the board, yes, we have one request to speak on general public comment this morning.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:08:12

Okay. And with that then I close the line, the list for those who can participate and we'll start.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:08:22

Chair Hartman and members of the board. Our one request to speak is Maria Kester, and we'll be going to Zoom. Maria?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:08:34

Oh can you hear me? We can a little softly so speak loudly please so we don't

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:08:39

miss a word. Okay this is rather ironic because I would like to start with quoting Supervisor Williams from last week's meeting We are moral creatures that live with such short window spans that we can kid ourselves, that we could deceive ourselves. That to think our system of government has proved itself as enduring for this little bit of human history that we have existed. That is, we have not proven ourselves that enduring yet. It is the actions that people take in this next generation that will prove whether that system is enduring or come apart."

The US Constitution is one of the longest surviving systems of government. It is, if not the oldest in the world today and never before has a system brought as much individual liberty as any other type of government in a short history of mankind's. The conflating of unconstitutional governments with the very principles it is to uphold and protect which are not mutually exclusive as Supervisor Williams would make us believe does not hold up intellectually, and is an indoctrination technique that is bestowed by the current left of the political spectrum onto the masses regularly. And it's falsely labeled as selfish when it has nothing to do with being selfish but everything with the fact that individual rights are central to a free society as well as universal human rights.

Ironically, the logical endgame of the identity politics of the Left In the form of their intersectionality ideology, it's individual. It's known two people are alike. The concept of for the government good with other words communism and surrendering individual liberty is to replace a constitution and reign in the Great Reset which is sold to us as an environmental agenda where compassion is central. In order for the Great Reset, ACA QR code, ACA free passport, ACA vaccine passport It is necessary for mass surrendering of individual liberties. Through ideologies like intersectionality, gender ideology and critical race theory which are attacking critical thinking through the absence of logic reasoning, fact finding and deduction in rigorous scientific debates, the population is being indoctrinated to abandon the aforementioned and replace it with feelings and virtue signaling.

In the meanwhile these ideologies prove the opposite of what they claim to represent and create hatred and divide and conquer, even within the very groups they claim to represent. This divide and conquer is necessary to rein in political agendas as it indoctrinates people to surrender their individual liberty. As a liberal and as an immigrant I'm appalled at this obvious attack on the greatest constitution ever written and the lazy analysis by the left and Democrats that this is an outdated document when it is the intricate system of checks and balances

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:11:43

Thank you very much for being here with us today. With that, public comment is concluded and we will take a five minute break or a little behind schedule so please don't go far board members you We are reconvening the meeting of January 25th, 2022. The Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors here in the Santa Barbara hearing room. Madam Clerk, would you please read departmental agenda number one into the record?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:20:07

Chair Hartman and members of the board. Departmental item number one is from the Human Resources Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an amendment to the Santa Barbara County Code Chapter 27 personnel.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:20:20

Mr. Pisano will you be making the presentation

CommentJoe PisanoProposedself-stated1:20:25

No PowerPoint today Madam Chair just a few comments. Chair Hartman, members of the board my name is Joe Pisano and I'm here from the County Human Resources Department to request Board approval of an amendment to chapter 27 of the county code this covers personnel matters including the foundation of the civil service system You may recall the county human resources took a similar amendment to the board last year. But as that item went through various iterations and revisions, some important language inadvertently dropped off the final version of the resolution that was filed. That had the unintended consequence of requiring a civil service style competitive selection process for a number of non-civil service positions in the county that were never subject to that requirement and for which it doesn't make sense.

Those positions include your own Members of appointed boards and commissions, and participants in the Sheriff's Work Release Program among others. The recommended action corrects that error and in addition deletes some redundant language. The language in the ordinance is a little complicated but this is a fairly simple matter. We made a mistake last year and are here to correct it today.

Thank you for your attention I'd be happy to answer any questions.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:21:30

Thank you. So this is just clean up. Do any board members have questions? Ms. DeGlovera's also on the phone if anybody had any questions, I don't see any. Is there any public comment?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:21:45

Chair Hartman and members of the board we have no request to speak on this item. Okay

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:21:50

so may I have a motion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:21:51

Chair Hartman I move that we accept staff's recommendations.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:21:57

Thank You Supervisor Nelson Supervisor Williams, will you second? OK. Any further discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. So that brings us to item number two. Madam Clerk, will you please read that into the record?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:22:27

Chair Hartman and members of the board, departmental item number two is from the Planning and Development Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the appeal case number 20 APL 28 filed by Steve Decker, applicant of the County Planning Commission's denial of the Decker Greenhouse Project case number 19 LUP 469. And Chair Hartman, members of the board. Before we proceed with this item I did want to announce that we received a few letters into the record after our deadline of noon on Friday that were over a page that will need to be voted into the record before proceeding to accept them into the record.

I will begin with the first which is a public comment letter from Tom Lux that was received Saturday January 22nd at 1149 A letter from Linda Harry received Saturday, January 22nd at 8 p.m.. A letter from Travis Morrow received Sunday, January 23rd at 339 and a letter from Jeff Jacobson received Monday, January 24th at 1130. And if the board wanted to include those as part of the record motion to that effect would be appropriate.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:23:35

Okay and may I have a motion to receive these four?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:23:40

I'll make the motion to accept those items in for the record.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:23:43

Thank you. No for Supervisor Hart, no Nelson, no Supervisor Lavinino. Supervisor Williams?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:24:03

I have none on this particular one.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:24:07

Chair

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:24:07

Hartman let me clarify that I have no ex parte communication beyond the last time this was heard.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:24:12

And that's I see all the heads nodding and that's for me too. All right so we're onto staff presentation. Mr. does Miss Plowman wish to go first or Mrs. okay? Sure Madam Chair,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:24:32

members of the board sorry I can't be with you today but I did want to introduce the item today is the appeal made by Mr. Decker we had been at the board with this item in February of 2021 and the board had directed the department to do some additional environmental review And particularly focused on some of the potential impacts associated with lighting in the greenhouse. Today we have Ben Singer, who is the planner for the case and he will be presenting the project and we also have Mr. Travis Sewards who's our deputy director and he's in the room with you.

With that I think I will turn it over to Mr. Singer for the presentation. Okay, Mr. Singer, we're ready.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:25:17

Thank you, thank you Director Blumen and good morning Chair Hartman and members of the board As mentioned, I am returning before your board today with the appeal of the Planning Commission's denial of the Decker Greenhouse and this project was previously heard by the Board on February 9th 2021. Next slide please. At the February 9th 2021 hearing your board heard the applicant's appeal of the Planning Commission's denial of the project and deliberated on the appeal in the project The motion was made and passed, directing staff to conduct additional environmental review and return when appropriate. The minute order from the February 9th hearing is included as a type 6 board agenda letter for today. Next slide please.

To quickly refresh everyone's memory, the proposed project is a land use permit for 15,648 square foot greenhouse The project also includes grading of 3,200 cubic yards of cut and 3,106 cubic yards of fill. 3,930 square feet of landscaping. 11 new parking spots and a new well and septic system. The project includes six full-time employees. It is expected to be an easement on Freidensburg Street Road. And the subject property is a 5.24 acre parcel zone Ag 1-5.

Next slide please. The vicinity map is shown here. The subject parcel is outlined in white, the purple area is the city of Splin and Highway 246 can be seen in the lower right corner. Next slide please. This is the site plan for the project. The darker gray area on your right hand side is the proposed greenhouse and you can see the existing dwelling on it as the darker gray area on the left.

Next slide please. Staff reviewed projects section 15183 of the state school guidelines. Section 15183 allows projects to be exempted from environmental review if they're consistent with a community plan for which an environmental impact report was certified. I've analyzed the proposed project and reviewed the Santa Ana Valley Community Plan EIR. The community plan established zoning and land uses for the greater Santa Ana Valley area And EIR gives us impacts for the area and zone this proposed project is located in, as well as considering the impact of maximum buildup of community.

In the Ag One Zone District you can build up to 20,048 of agricultural and residential structures before you need an improved development plan. The proposed project is an agricultural structure and will put the total development on site just under that 27 square foot number so it's consistent with density allowed in the Ag One Zone. Attachment 3.B to the Board Agenda Letter provides a discussion of environmental impacts identified in the St. Venezuela Community Plan EIR, as well as its potential for the proposed project to create either a more severe impact or additional environmental impacts. And one quick correction on attachment 3. B, the first list APL as case number 21-APL28 when it is in fact 20-APL28.

Next slide please. Based on this review, your board can take the following actions to uphold CPL case number 20-APL28. Make the required findings including CEQA findings for approval of the project case number 19-LUP469. Determine that approval of the project exemption from CEQAs pursuant to state CEQAS guidelines section 15183 and approve with no vote of the project case number 19-Lup469 There are two more slides in the presentation regarding building elevations and project timelines that were presented at the February 9th, 2021 hearing. They're included if your board wants to further review the proposed project. That concludes staff's presentation and I'm available to answer any questions the Board may have. Thank you.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:29:16

Thank you Mr. Singer. Do any Board members have questions for Mr. Singer on the Decker appeal? Madam Clerk do we have public comment

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:29:30

Chair Hartman and members of the board, I believe next we will go to the applicant Steve Decker. Thank you and he is available on Zoom.

CommentSteve DeckerProposedself-stated1:29:41

Yes good morning Madam Chair, members of the board. I'm Steve Decker applicant and appellant and we are happy to see that planning and development has For the third time, fully vetted our project that it meets or exceeds the Santa Ana's Valley Community Plan in itself and then the EIR as well. So we are happy to see where we are today and we hope that the board votes accordingly. Thank you.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:30:15

Thank you Mr. Decker And we have three requests to speak on this item, Madam Clerk. So let's call them.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:30:25

Chair Hartman and members of the board? Yes, we have three requests to speak on this item. We will go to Zoom for Nancy Emerson to be followed by Mike Toshida

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:30:35

and I'll close public comment at this time. Thank you, Nancy. Please

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:30:39

proceed. And Nancy, we have unmuted you on our end if you can unmute. Thank you very much. Good

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:30:52

morning Chair Hartman and Supervisors. We want to ask you to deny the DECA appeal of the Planning Commission's denial of this application For an industrial greenhouse abutting the city of Solvang and Freidensburg Canyon Road homes. It is not an appropriate use in this inner rural area next to the Solvange City limits, and it's single family housing. The Santa Ynez Valley Community Plan describes the inter-rural area as having changed over time in the valley, and I quote.

The subdivision of inter-rural Ag One parcels is resulting in more estate ranchettes than associated hobby farms and less commercial agriculture. A perfect description of this neighborhood. In this case, potential overriding considerations especially BNF should not be used to justify approving this appeal. In previous hearings, Neighbors and WeWatch addressed the appropriateness of this size structure in a neighborhood that was primarily residences rather than commercial agriculture. Those owned Ag 1-5.

Even near the dead end of Friedensborg Canyon Road no agricultural structures approached this greenhouse's square footage What we did not specifically discuss was the greenhouse's mass and the fact that it sits on Solvang City limits. The site plan and aerial photos show that the applicant placed the greenhouse as far away from his own home as possible, and imposed it on his nearest neighbor's homes including one in Solvang.

At 20 feet high and much longer than the houses next to it, it would be a huge visual eyesore for them. Setbacks and fences cannot solve the problem. It is unknown whether there might be noise issues from the greenhouse for these closest neighbors also The greenhouse's mass and height make it too visible to other neighborhood residents. Finally, why does he need a parking lot with 11 spaces and six employees?

Please deny this appeal.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:33:36

Thank you Miss Emerson.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:33:41

And we will now go to Mike Tashida to be followed by Mark Shatillo who is our final speaker.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:33:54

Good morning, thank you for taking some comments. I'm a new neighbor so this is a new process for me in the process of this application. I was a little surprised that the board had requested an environmental review and i still haven't seen a copy of that. So I was a little surprised that the board is okay not having that environmental review And also, it looks like for this meeting that Ben had a copy of a plan that had been submitted to the county. I'd asked Steve Decker for a copy of the plan or any plans and he told me there were no plans for the greenhouse as he needs to submit those to the Homeowners Association of which I am the head of the architectural committee And our architectural committee approval is required for any type of barn or building or fencing and anything that would be built within the HOA district.

So it'll be interesting, I'll reach out to Ben to get a copy of those plans so we can get our process started as well. Thank you.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:35:09

Thank you Mr. Toshida.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:35:12

And our final speaker is Mark Shatillo.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:35:18

Good morning, members of the board. I'm appearing today on behalf of the Committees for Land Air Water and Species and I'm concerned for the procedural posture of the proposed action and what we perceive to be improper reliance on a categorical exemption which if it does apply in this circumstance has not been fully complied with Section 15183, the categorical exemption from the requirement of environmental review for this individual project is narrow. It only looks to whether the project is consistent with development density established by the community plan and it requires that the county go through an analysis either in initial study or other analysis to determine whether All of the other elements of the project conform to the community plan and its prior environmental review, which is I would note at this point quite dated over a decade old.

There was no initial study, no analysis made available for the public to be able to participate in this process and consequently the protections and provisions of 15183 don't appear to be applicable. Specifically, the land use permit is required both under general plan and zoning law to be consistent with the general plan. But also under Section 15183 there's a requirement that all elements of the project are also consistent with the general plan. The San Ynez Valley Community Plan policies, the goal visual San Ynez Valley one and the policy number one both prioritized The minimization of impacts to open space views as seen from public roads and viewpoints, and the protection of visual corridors and the quality of nighttime sky. All are issues that are triggered by the proposed project.

So it's inexplicable to us that there be no analysis whatsoever in the process. The materials offered for the board's review Do not offer and for the public's consideration here don't include the appeal itself. There is no legal analysis to be able to describe how this exemption from CEQA applies, nor is general plan conformity analysis to be able to identify whether this project actually conforms to the community plan without that conformity analysis 15183 does not apply.

So We're actually quite surprised by the 180 degree change, the board directed staff to conduct environmental analysis. And instead they said we're gonna determine that. That seems it's both improper in terms of the board's direction but also undermines the community's belief and support in the integrity of the planning process when these issues are instead of being analyzed and addressed are being swept under the rug.

The adjacency to the urban area and the determination by the Planning Commission that this project did not apply, was not appropriate for the site. And

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:38:42

that is your time Mr. Citillo. Thank you. So now we go back to oh Mr. Stewart

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:38:54

Mr. Singer I think had a few responses he wanted to come back to. Ben did you want to

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:38:58

answer? Sure, generally we go to the applicant and then come back to staff if that's all right. Mr. Decker

CommentSteve DeckerProposedself-stated1:39:09

yes thank you Madam Chair responding to Ms. Emerson's claim that the The object was located in a little distance away from my house. That location was actually the most appropriate location to have the construction be the least, have the least impact on anyone's view of it. We've gone through extensive screening measures beyond what is required to further mitigate that And then there was a noise analysis made and all of our noise emission projections at the property lines were significantly below what is required of me by the county ordinance.

And as for Mr. Tashita's comments, it is a civil matter between he and I, and it's not a part of this proceeding. As to Mr. Shatillo's comments, He has made some really significant charges about this project not being fully vetted and I don't know where he's getting all that from. This has been a remarkable three review process of this specific project, so I trust that Planning and Development will have An adequate response to Mr. Shatillo's comments, thank you.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:40:49

Thank you so now we go back to Mr Singer.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:40:54

I've been told that my audio is less than stellar so hopefully you can hear me clearly.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:41:00

Yeah it's a little muffled so speak as clearly enunciate as clearly as you can.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:41:06

Will do The project has been reviewed for consistency with the comprehensive plan as well as the land use and development code. This is all included in previous staff reports, as mentioned this has been to the board once before and went to the planning commission as well. That analysis was not recreated for the board letter or for today's hearing but it's included as attachments.

For the environmental review, review was Performed of the project as part of the consistency analysis, which is included as attachment 3B to the board agenda letter. Which is accessible to the public. It reviewed the project for consistency with the development density allowed, which is required for section 15183 to apply to the project and then reviewed the impacts anticipated by the Santa Ana's Valley Community Plan Environmental Impact Report As well as the projects relation to those being whether it would create. Uh, new impacts that were not reviewed by the or what it whether it created more severe impacts that were reviewed by all of this review is included in that attachment and.

The project was found to not create a more severe impact nor any additional impacts. And due to that, Section 15183 allows the exemption of a project that is consistent with the zone and the community plan as this project is. Thank you.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:42:40

Thank you so with that this matter comes back Mr. Seward did you have additional things you wanted to add?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:42:48

Thank you, Chair Hartman. I think the only thing I would like to add is it was analyzed for policy consistency with the Sandy's Community Plan. This is a permitted use. This is ag zone land. It meets all of the development standards for that ag zone as well.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:43:06

So this comes back to the board. It is my district, so I'll take the prerogative of going first. I appreciate Ms. Emerson's comments because the Santa Ynez Valley Community Plan very much did understand the changing nature of agriculture in the valley and especially in these areas where I'd like to start by saying thank you very much for the opportunity to be here today.

You have to understand appropriate in the context of these changing kinds of agricultural uses, and here it was more horses and goats and 4-H and that kind of thing. Nobody expected to be living next to a commercial agriculture operation with employees in parking lots and a huge industrial size building in their neighborhood that's highly visible. So I believe that it is inconsistent.

Actually, a unanimity of the Planning Commission made that same finding so that's where I am and with that I'd like to hear from my colleagues. Supervisor Nelson?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:44:52

Thank you Chair Hartman. I understand where the neighbors are coming from. This is a neighborhood for all intents and purposes. That said, it is ag zoned so that's why I've come into this conflict trying to wrestle with this. If I lived in that neighborhood, I wouldn't be happy either. You know, I've tried to stay consistent as a supervisor on these matters and the role in the hat that we're wearing. I think if we were wearing our legislative hat, I'm all about rezoning these properties residential or rural residential in the future.

Right now I'm wearing my judicial hat and We have to look at the zoning and what staff has come across on these LUPs. You know, I struggle with this as well with the cannabis projects. I'm not a big fan of some of these projects but they're an LUP. It's consistent with the zoning. And so for me in my vote on this is I support the appeal. It's consistent with the San Diego Valley Community Plan, it's a permitted use, it's consistent with the development standards, it is an LUP and I don't think the word appropriate for my comfort level is something that is that subjective.

It's appropriate for the zoning and this is an agricultural use. You know, it's not something that is, you know, ancillary to agriculture. It is agriculture and as frustrating as that might be for the neighborhood or for the board I can't go anywhere besides supporting Mr. Decker. We had this before us a year ago we asked for additional environmental review they came back with Same result, and I think one of two things. If we were gonna deny it now, we should have denied it a year ago.

I don't think that's fair in our process that we do that. Maybe it was a message to Mr. Decker to back off but he has continued to move forward and I think he has legal right to do that so I'm going to support his appeal.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:47:27

Supervisor Williams?

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction1:47:29

Well, you know I do have that question of whether the word appropriate is enough of a hook to make these projects fundamentally discretionary. I think that we've obviously tried to do everything we could to provide the neighborhood recourse by approving the environmental review, which delayed the project for a year. There is a difference between us not wanting this to happen and it being Discretionary decision on our part.

Normally things that are within the zoning of an area, it is not always discretionary for us to say no to. So I guess this rests on the question of whether a word appropriate in a community plan gives the board complete discretion over a project And I don't know the answer to

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:48:55

that. Supervisor Labanino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:48:57

Thank you, Madam Chair. Well, I don't think anybody's jumping up and down and celebrating this project but at the end of the day it does meet the criteria for the zoning. I think Mr. Decker has jumped through more than his share of hoops Unfortunately, and I think I brought this up last time is whether or not he builds us or not. He's gonna be living around these neighbors for the rest of his life.

And so as we try to do with all of these items that come before us in this type of judicial setting, I think it's more important to make sure that you have a compatible use that all your neighbors are going to be able You know, nobody wants to be the pebble in the shoe. So my recommendation is for him to sit down with his neighbors and find something that works.

I think what he's going to tell me is I've tried that both sides have tried that it hasn't worked and this is why we're in this situation right now. So I think this all goes back to zoning as far as folks want to be in ag setting Until somebody wants to do something that's ag in that area and then it's like, wait a minute. That's not what we do here. But this is I know, I think this started out originally as a cannabis project and morphed into vegetables.

Like I said, I'm not a huge fan of the project. I understand the neighbor's concerns but unfortunately, I can't get to the bar that appropriate meaning that we would have discretion just to be able to pick and choose which projects that we approve in that area.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:50:46

Supervisor Hart?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:50:47

Yeah, I'd like to know if County Council has anything to add to Supervisor Williams' question about the word appropriate in this context.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:50:58

Madam Chair and Supervisor Hart, the Board has very broad discretion in interpreting consistency with the Comprehensive Plan including the San Dines Community Plan. So as part of a land use permit which is limited discretion compared to a conditional use permit it is one of the findings for an LUP for consistency with both the Zoning Ordinance and the Comprehensive Plan.

I would just add to that that if the board was inclined to go that way, you know, you would need to make findings that would support that. And I believe actually there's findings in the packet for that.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:51:40

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:51:57

Yes, all of the, Chair Hartman thank you. All of the plans we've received and they've been public so I'm not exactly sure which plans he is talking about. I think he's talking about an HOA architectural review.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:52:10

Yeah. So he could get them but I guess Mr. Decker has to go through that process as well. That is correct. Thank you. Well. I

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:52:20

had another question. Sure. One was on the blackout curtain. So how do we, well I guess he's got a bunch of neighbors that are going to be enforcing that pretty much will be getting those phone calls. All right because I remember that was a major concern. I'd like to go back to without trying to air all of our legal maneuverings here in public if if we denied okay if we uphold the appeal The project gets approved.

Mr. Decker decides he wants to go to the next step. Who pays for that? I mean, do we defend ourselves? How does that work?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:53:13

Supervisor Lavagnino. So if I'm understanding your question it's if we prove the project and then someone challenges

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:53:22

Well, I'm thinking the other way. Let's say let's go the other way where we deny the project. Mr. Decker then sues us for you know he wants to take it to Superior Court. How does that play out?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:53:36

We would defend the board's decision to deny the project and we would not be indemnified for that.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:53:46

So Supervisor Nelson, I just had a comment about your comments so then I'll give it back to you. As we wear our judicial hat we are looking at the Land Use Development Code but we're also interpreting and statutory interpretation is very much something that people do wearing the judicial hat And for us, that issue is consistency with the community plan. And so there can be underlying ag zoning but what does the community plan say? Is it consistent?

And I've tried to say that the community plan was indeed developed within a context and that context helps us to interpret what they were trying to get at. So it's supporting expansion of agriculture but appropriate is there And another goal of the plan is to be compatible with adjacent agricultural lands. And so the kinds of adjacent uses, as I've mentioned, it's small horse farms, goats 4H. So this is something that is not compatible and it is not the kind of appropriate agricultural expansion. So that is a judicial process. We're not just becoming legislators by interpreting Thank you very much.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:55:18

This appropriate term are we do we find that in other places in our code again? Because what I you know, I've taken a fairly hard line with my votes over the last year on cannabis projects especially LUPs. That I'm generally going to support those because I find that we make the appropriate findings And, you know, compatibility with adjacent agriculture. Do we find that in some of these other rural projects that have come before the board? Are those also in there because I want to be supportive of Supervisor Hartman here and I'm trying to get there but I also want to make sure I'm consistent with my previous approaches to land use permit appeals so if you could help me with that because that might help get me there.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:56:07

Members of the

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:56:08

board? Yes, Ms. Plowman please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:56:11

Yeah you the term I don't think that term exists in our code but what we do is look at the policies and make a determination whether they are consistent with our policies and so that's usually the language that is contained in our code and that's what's contained in our findings. So the board has the discretion as County Council said To make the determination whether or not this project is consistent with the code requirements and the comprehensive plan or San Diego Community Plan.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:56:49

Director Plowman, Supervisor Hartman. So, but the appropriate and compatible with adjacent agriculture that's in the Sandy Nez plan though. It's kind of unique to that is that what I'm understanding from or is it that throughout the code? Is really what my question is.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:57:14

Supervisor Nelson through the chair. I'm not sure which I'd have to get refresh from supervisor Hartman comments But I do not recall the use of that term in the Santa Ynez community plan. And we don't, we don't use that in our code.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:57:36

Thank

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:57:36

you. So it's specifically listed as a goal in the Santa Ynez Valley Community Plan to protect and support agricultural land use and encourage appropriate agricultural expansion.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:57:53

Thank you for refreshing me. So that's the board has the flexibility to make the determination whether or not this project is consistent with a sanitized community plan.

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction1:58:08

And that question is whether there's substantial evidence that it's incompatible or

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:58:12

not? Commissioner Williams through the chair, that's correct.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:58:22

Are there any additional comments or questions? I will then make a motion, and at least we'll get a vote on this. A motion to deny the appeal and uphold the Planning Commission's denial of appeal. Is that a correct way to phrase

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:58:46

it? Manager, my recommendation would just at this point have it be conceptual just because we don't have all of the documents here.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:58:55

So could you? Well, we'll get a vote and then you could explain the process. Sure. All right. Yes. OK. So maybe we'll just all those who are in favor of denying the appeal say aye. Aye. And all those in favor of upholding the appeal say aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:59:26

Aye.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:59:29

Is that 4? I think

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:59:30

it's 3-2. Do you want to do

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:59:32

a roll

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:59:32

call?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.561:59:33

Okay, I think we will do a roll call just to get it on the record Madam Clerk for the conceptual motion then we'll have to have a real one.

Roll-call vote Failed 1–3 · 1 under review
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Supervisor Lavenino? No. Supervisor Williams? Supervisor Hart, aye. Supervisor Nelson? No. And Chair Hartman? Aye.
UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:59:59

Motion fails. 4 to

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:00:02

1. 3-2. Supervisor Williams?

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction2:00:10

I just want to say for the record especially for my former constituents in the Sandy Nez Valley, I just cannot make the judgment that there exists a substantial evidence that this is against the community plan. There would have to be specific elements of the community plan that say you can't expand greenhouses Our experience of course in Carpinteria is that the community, I wasn't a part of it. The community created a zoning change to limit greenhouse expansion.

That's what would be my view the necessary actions to do to limit this. I obviously think that part of this is the mistrust with the applicant and the belief in the community that he will try to put marijuana in this greenhouse. And if he does, he will face criminal charges or at least enforcement by the county. So I will definitely advocate for adequate enforcement to make sure that this is not a bait-and-switch And would love to vote with you, Ms. Hartman. But I just can't make that judgment call.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:01:37

Supervisor Lavenino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:01:38

Okay and then I'll make a...I don't think it's conceptual at this point so we saw where everybody is. I'll move actions A through D upholding the appeal.

Roll-call vote Passed 3–1 move actions A through D upholding the appeal. Is there a second? And would you call the roll
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Is there a second? And would you call the roll one more time just so this is now officially on the record with the official vote. Supervisor Lavagnino aye. Supervisor Williams aye. Supervisor Hart no. Supervisor Nelson aye and Chair Hartman no
UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:02:13

motion passes three to two

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:02:16

thank you So turning to our next departmental agenda item. Would you read that into the record, Madam Clerk?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:02:30

Chair Hartman and members of the board, departmental item number three is from the Agricultural Commissioner and Weights & Measures Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a Santa Barbara County hemp ordinance.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:02:57

Welcome Ms. Fisher and Ms. Martin. It's nice to see you in person. Did you want to introduce this item, Ms. Fisher?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:03:11

Yes good morning chair members of the board I have here today Lottie Martin our Deputy Agricultural Commissioner that's to give you the presentation on our hemp ordinance proposal. Okay go ahead Ms. Martin

CommentI'm Lottie MartinProposedself-stated2:03:27

Good morning Chair, members of the Board. I'm Lottie Martin, Deputy Agricultural Commissioner and I am here to present a proposal for an ordinance regulating hemp. Next slide please. The purpose of the proposed ordinance is to regulate the cultivation of hemp within the unincorporated area of the county, to promote agricultural diversification while protecting the environment, public safety and welfare of the county, and to ensure a legal hemp industry for our new growers.

The ordinance will enhance local oversight with tools that exceed those available in the state plan and regulations, and will include a local licensing requirement to ensure compliance with the state plan and other county ordinance restrictions. The ordinance will allow the department to charge fees for services that will offset the cost to run the program and provide a high level of customer service to the industry without increasing the county subsidy.

The 2014 Farm Bill allowed universities to begin cultivating industrial hemp for research purposes. The 2018 Farm Bill removed hemp from the Schedule I Federal Controlled Substance List and directed the United States Department of Agriculture to develop regulations for a new federal regulatory program. The California Industrial Hemp Farming Act was signed into law on January 1, 2017 and authorized the cultivation of industrial hemp by registered growers and research institutions. But Santa Barbara County continued to follow the guidance in the farm bills only allowing hemp to be grown for research purposes.

Currently 32 counties in California have registered hemp cultivation sites. USDA certified the California State Plan as of January 1st, 2022 and Santa Barbara County is now accepting industrial hemp registrations. Growers cultivating hemp for research purposes now must register with the county. Allan Hancock College hired Dr. Anjali Misra, plant molecular biologist and professor to administer the AHC Industrial Hemp Program.

Ellen Hancock College began the program in 2020. There are currently eight growers participating in the program and a total of 179 acres being grown. At the height of the program in 2020, there were 12 growers that participated and 352 acres. Allan Hancock College built a grower-funded laboratory on the Lompoc campus where they perform genetic testing on hemp plants.

Currently they can test plants to see if they are male or female and recently started running DNA fingerprinting based diagnostics to distinguish between cannabis and hemp. Allen Hancock College started a hemp and cannabis club to help prepare students for industry positions, provide opportunities to take part in field training and allow students to work hands-on with local community partners.

The ordinance will require a county business license to grow hemp in addition to state registration. The grower must be the property owner or have written consent to grow hemp. No cannabis species other than industrial hemp may be grown on the licensed hemp site. Growers will need to submit a bond for each acre of industrial hemp grown, to cover the cost of destruction of non-compliant hemp.

The bond will be returned after successful harvest of the hemp. The department will charge the hourly rate to cover costs incurred to implement the program and unpaid charges may be billed against the bond. In order to reduce the possibility of cross-pollination, male plants must be culled from the field prior to the flowering and pollen set. Fields will require signage to identify that hemp with no THC is being grown.

The ordinance will allow for additional sampling following the state protocol as needed. Hemp must test below .3% or it is considered illegal. A non-compliant field may be tested again if it tests below 1% THC. If it tests above .3%, again, the grower must implement their destruction plan. The county collects the samples and the determination of the THC amount comes from a state approved lab of the grower's choice.

If destruction of the hemp is required, the destruction must be witnessed by the county. The ordinance has a compliance component to allow the agricultural commissioner to enforce the provisions using administrative fines and to suspend licenses. Other potential options are possible with this administrative ordinance are to limit the total number of licenses available each year, to limit the total number of acres allowed to be grown in the county or some combination of the two such as limiting the number of acres allowed by each licensee.

The Agriculture Commissioner Weights and Measures Office recommends that the Board of Supervisors approve the introduction of an ordinance regulating hemp in the County of Santa Barbara Read the title and ordinance regulating hemp, and waive further reading of the ordinance. Find that the proposed actions are exempt under California Environmental Quality Act, and set a hearing on the administrative agenda of February 1st 2022 to consider and approve the adoption of an ordinance regulating hemp.

Thank you for your time. I'll take any questions.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:08:59

And do we have any questions? Supervisor Williams? None?

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction2:09:06

Yeah. I guess from a larger perspective, for those of us that are worried about the expansion of hemp, why take action now? And in this form is it just simply because of the lack of regulation? Explain this to us a little bit deeper.

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GuestLottie MartinAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated2:09:38

Supervisor through the Chair, we currently are accepting hemp registration so hemp is able to come to the county one way or the other. And this just gives us a little bit more leverage as far as keeping it legal and ensuring that our hemp growers have a nice legal even playing field to deal with. We have a couple of provisions in the ordinance that will allow for some extra inspections if there's compliance questions and things like that. So it gives us control that the state plan doesn't have available to us.

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction2:10:17

And you know, some of us would want there to be some land use restrictions but of course we don't The luxury to go into land use restrictions today. So, I mean what other limitations could we impose? Why wouldn't we cap for instance hemp cultivation if we have capped marijuana cultivation in the county?

GuestLottie MartinAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated2:10:45

Supervisor through the chair that is an option available to you at this time.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:10:54

And I think you said cap acreage or cap licensees, if I remember correctly. So do any Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:11:05

Yes. Thank you Chair Hartman. Of those eight cultivation sites are growers. What's this? I guess what's the biggest grow and what's the smallest grow? Do you have that handy? The reason I'm asking that question is kind of as you look at caps it might be good to see what's out there.

GuestLottie MartinAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated2:11:30

Supervisor Nelson through the chair, currently the biggest grower has 102.5 acres.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:11:39

So the other grows about 10 acres apiece. All right thank you for that. The other question I had was about the bonding Is it potentially maybe another option besides bonding? Because I understand the reason why, because if we need to eradicate it and the grower disappears that's going to be a cost that the county is going to have to incur. No hemp's not the only product out there that if it goes bad, it could be a nuisance to other crops that the county might have to get involved in. I mean, I think there's a lot of other fruits out there that could happen as well. We don't necessarily require that because these are usually growers that are well established.

Is there another option potentially of bonding or showing maybe proof of funds to potentially eradicate that? Because what I don't want to do Is saddle not just for hemp, but any other farm with a added cost that might be prohibitive. You know there's you know your precursors costs is always what are the inputs when to see if it's profitable or not? And if it's $2800 a square of an acre which is the bond that's about $280 an acre, that's actually decently large cost.

And so that's a little concern of mine moving forward with that and. Is that an option that we might be able to add in there if we go down this route? Like a proof of funds or some other ways to show that they would have the ability to eradicate the

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:13:07

crop. I suppose if there's board desire, we could consider that but I think to your larger question, if we wanted to do this with any other crop It would come back to this board. We don't have authority, right? This is just authority for him which is a very distinct crop because it's so close to the... I don't even... They're both cannabis and so I start talking about CBD cannabis and THC cannabis.

So I don' think that... A board in the future would certainly have the opportunity to say they didn't want to do this if it were ever proposed. We're just talking about this.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:14:04

I guess what I'm trying to, the reason why I brought up other crops because I do think if there's a nuisance, I think that the Ag Commissioner can step in on other crops and so you know there's a strawberry field that's gone that they've abandoned and I'm going to go ahead and get started. And so what I'm just saying here is that maybe we should consider proof of funds or financial stability as another criteria besides bonding. I think sometimes bonding...

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:14:49

Could we explore your question in there and get a clear answer? Sure. Because I think that's an important question, an issue that you've raised is what other crops does the Ag Commissioner have authority to go in and destroy and collect money for that work?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:15:06

Supervisor Nelson through the Chair, County Agricultural Commissioners already have abatement authority through the Food and Ag Code to abate public nuisances. These are any crop that has been considered abandoned. There's no longer any kind of pest production going on at all and so if we find a field through a complaint that fits that public nuisance definition then we do working very closely with the district attorney through notification to the property operator We'll let them know that your field has been considered abandoned, and therefore according to this code you shall abate the nuisance. If they fail to do so within the proper period of time then we work with a district attorney where they can possibly move in, place a lien on the property to pay for the cost for the county to come in and abate it themselves.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:15:57

So that already exists but that finding of abandonment is critical and for the THC CBD what see for him. The proposal is to create a bond and it doesn't have to be abandoned, it's just if they don't do the work. Is that I'm just trying to understand the differences and then we'll go back to Supervisor Nelson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:16:24

Madam Chair that is correct and in addition If we're sampling, our ordinance will allow us to charge for sampling costs. If after invoicing that the property operator fails to pay that invoice, we can use the band to cover those costs as well.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:16:40

Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:16:43

No, I think that answers my question. I think that, I guess my point is there's other tools out there again against a lien against the property. I haven't even thought about that. Yes it's extra steps but you know I'm not one that wants to put additional layers of costs. You know farming sometimes a break-even business as it is so you know that's where I'm coming from on that. That's all I'm looking at.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:17:07

So seeing no more lights, I did have a couple of questions. The first has to do with growing season. It's...I just want to confirm whether I have a proper understanding that hemp has a shorter growing season and potentially more crops per year than does cannabis. I'll just call them kemp and cannabis for the moment. Is that understanding correct?

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GuestLottie MartinAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated2:17:35

Madam Chair, they are technically the same species. So it should be very similar to what's grown for cannabis. Anytime you grow inside of a greenhouse or some sort of structure, you would have the ability to multiple crops per year but they should unless there are different types of seeds. There's like long and short so some of those would give you a bigger window but they would be similar to regular cannabis

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:18:05

Okay and so the similar issues of odor would arise. And then the issue of, as I understand it, Could pollinate with cannabis and therefore potentially change the flowering of the cannabis. And so that's why you're asking in the ordinance for people to go and pick out all the male plants, is that correct?

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GuestLottie MartinAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated2:18:43

Madam Chair, you are correct they do have the ability to cross-pollinate

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:18:47

And my understanding is also that seed is very cheap, but seedlings where you can be absolutely sure of the sex of the plant are very expensive. Is that true? Madam Chair from my understanding, that

GuestLottie MartinAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated2:19:02

is accurate.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:19:02

Okay and so if you have acres of hemp that you've seeded with seeds rather than seedlings how How do you go in and pick out all the males? I mean, how realistic is that as a requirement?

GuestLottie MartinAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated2:19:23

Madam Chair, it's my understanding that they do similar in cannabis. If they're growing from seed that they would go through and rogue the male plants. And you can see there's a little bit difference on the flowers. So as they grow and they reach maturity, they have a different look to them. And so the growers are able to choose those out and rogue them out of the fields

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:19:44

But it does sound like a pretty labor-intensive, okay. And I see an emphatic nod from our Ag Commissioner. And then I had a question for County Council. Our urgency ordinance originally included hemp in it so we're prohibited? Could you just put that on the record? I think that's important for us to understand.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:20:11

Yes, Madam Chair. The county did adopt an urgency ordinance which allows the county time to study and come up with a regulatory scheme. And when we adopted that urgency ordinance, we included both cannabis and hemp in that.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:20:30

So that's no longer—that's a one-and-done, and that's no longer available

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:20:34

to us. That's correct. There has to be a significant change in order to adopt another urgency ordinance on the same topic.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:20:45

Okay, thank you. So with that I think we can go to public comment. Madam Clerk five public speakers so with that I'll close the opportunity to sign up to speak on this item and we'll hear from the first of five

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:21:01

Chair Hartman and members of the board. Yes, thank you we have five requests to speak on this item. We're going to begin on Zoom with Claire Weinmann to be followed by Nancy Emerson and if you are a member of the public and have signed up to provide public comment on this item please log in now to do so. Claire?

PresenterClaire WeinmanGrower Shipper Association of Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo County TodayProposedself-stated2:21:22

Good morning my name is Claire Weinman speaking on behalf of the Grower Shipper Association of Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo County Today, we wanted to reaffirm our policy position which we confirmed with our Board of Directors last week. As we have previously articulated, our members have experienced the same land use conflicts and lack of compatibility between both hemp and cannabis, which has happened with numerous locations in crop types.

We've seen tremendous conflicts and impacts from both Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo County, both with agricultural uses and other different types of surrounding land use and enforcement challenges. To address these predictable conflicts, we ask that there for there to be a land use component to be added to this ordinance. We asked for any land use ordinance provisions developed in the future to be retroactive such that there isn't a gap in coverage to address these potential impacts and conflicts.

For reference, the San Luis Obispo County Hemp Ordinance only permits outdoor cultivation on sites that are at least 400 acres and requires a 2000 foot setback among other provisions. In the meantime, we ask you to implement robust administrative and licensing provisions as a stopgap measure such as the license limitation and acreage cap. Thank you for your attention to this matter in responsiveness to the concerns of the community.

Thank you.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:22:42

Thank you Miss Weinman for being here.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:22:46

We will now go to Nancy Emerson to be followed by Mark Sciatella.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:22:56

Nancy Emerson speaking for WE WATCH. We're a Sandy Nez Valley focused land use and environmental organization, and having supported the priority for development of a hemp ordinance we were relieved to see it on the agenda but we're having second thoughts after reading the ordinance It's not just another agricultural crop because hemp has all the problems except federal legality that resulted in a land use ordinance separating cannabis from agricultural crops.

We have a draft separate ordinance, but it does not provide land use regulations stating where this cannabis-like plant can and cannot be grown Or how odor will be controlled. For residents and other agriculturalists, all it does is increase the unresolved problems with the cannabis land use ordinance. I too looked at the San Luis Obispo ordinance that was adopted in 2020 and it prohibited cultivation completely in the Edna Valley, a wine area. And then the Paso Robles groundwater basin, in addition to what Claire mentioned Required that these cannabis, I mean these hemp sites be a mile or more from urbanized areas and prohibited hoop houses.

What is needed for the tourist and wine industry dependent Sandy Nez Valley is inclusion in a hemp land use ordinance with regulations similar to those in San Luis Obispo County Hemp cultivation can evidently cause problems for cannabis cultivation too, as already mentioned. So given the above problems for all tourists, residents and agriculturalists it seems to us that it would be wise to hold firmly to the current cannabis cap and to limit or ban hemp cultivation in an effort to control odor and locations.

Specific to the hemp ordinance, the proposed regulation system inspection sampling plant destruction with implementation challenges and unknown costs for both the hemp farmers and the regulators is daunting. Are others using this system? And if so who and how is it working? Thank you.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:25:52

Thank you, Ms. Emerson.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:25:56

We will now go to Mark Shutillo and then we will come to the Santa Barbara hearing room for Derek Stuckey who is our final speaker. Mark?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:26:07

Good morning Madam Chair, members of the board. Mark Shutillo on behalf of the Santa Barbara Coalition for Responsible Cannabis. We're concerned with this ordinance that the county is creating additional odor and enforcement issues that will compete with cannabis and the county's ability to manage odors in the areas where cannabis and now hemp are to be grown.

First, I want to underscore that the county has full legal authority to regulate hemp. There is no preemption by state or federal law and the State Hemp Plan has no controls for odor But allows the county to adopt its own ordinance. So, the county has the legal authority to require permits for hemp cultivation or otherwise to limit it and our request as explained in our letter is that the county direct staff to prepare a permit program or to revise a permit program for all hemp cultivation that has the potential to generate odor The reason for odor is first, because hemp does create odor. Some forms of hemp cultivation are as odorous as cannabis cultivation and we have seen from experience with the Cannabis Ordinance and the first cultivation operations of cannabis that there are large areas that are impacted by the odors from cannabis And secondly, that this will conflict with the county's ability to enforce its cannabis ordinance.

When there are several sources of odor that are nearby, one may be hemp, one may be cannabis, it will be very difficult for the county's enforcement staff to be able to distinguish. So we would support a permit program but in the interim If any action is to be taken today that the, in accordance with the Growers and Shippers Association, that a narrow amount of coverage be allowed and licenses be limited to the current amount only.

Finally, I want to just reference CEQA. The exemptions that were identified by staff are inapplicable. This action opens the door for the county to register and for increased amounts of hemp to be grown. The ordinance defines itself as regulating hemp. None of the exemptions which provide for protection of the natural resources or the environment or which will require a finding that there's no possible direct or indirect effects apply. In fact, the state secret guidelines are environmental review for a project that will result in emissions leading to odors adversely affecting a substantial number of people so this project is not eligible for the exemption and we ask that your board take careful action to ensure that this will not set us back in our efforts efforts to promote a robust and well-regulated cannabis and hemp industry.

Thank you.

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CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction2:29:31

Good morning and thank you Board of Supervisors. Derek Stuckey, pardon me a little frog in the throat and I would like to address the topic of odor. I've heard odor a dozen times in the conversation so far and it's a big big deal around the plant whether it's hemp or whether it's cannabis THC or CBD in your words chair We eliminate cannabis odor, verifiably.

Two different third party studies in laboratories saw 94 to 96% of the odor causing particles terpenes to be eliminated and odorless. Our product is odorless we just conducted gas chromatography sampling at a greenhouse where we are taking care of odor in Michigan, High Life Farms. The gas chromatography testing showed that comparing the air within the greenhouse to the air outside of the fan where we were applying our product 98.3% of the eight terpenes the gas chromatography device was set up to measure There was a 98.3% reduction in odor and if I didn't mention this before, our product is odorless so I'm not speaking in favor of anything else except to say there are solutions to the Odor Challenge that would help both the hemp and the cannabis industry, and the communities with where they are located as well as you folks doing your best to regulate and monitor and oversee the whole program.

So that's all that I really had to say is that there is a solution for odor. And I'm delighted to speak with anybody who's interested in learning more. Thank you for your time.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:31:29

I just have a quick question. Is your solution the seedling or is your solution a technological one that operates within or just outside of a greenhouse?

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction2:31:39

What we do is what we will always treat air that's being exhausted from a greenhouse, so yes.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:31:46

Thank you.

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction2:31:46

You're absolutely welcome and if anybody would like a sample of my product, I have some let me know thank you for your time

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:31:54

Okay

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:31:55

and that concludes

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:31:56

public comment on

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:31:56

this item. Thank you so that's back to the board for additional or did staff hear anything in public comment that they'd like to comment on? All right, so Supervisor Hart.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:32:09

Well the way I see this is this is the first step and we've got the department here asking for this ordinance to give them some of the tools that they need to regulate HEPA I don't think this is the last step in the process, and I appreciate the comments from members of the public who are looking for more aggressive regulation. That may be something that we need to do.

Fortunately, it does not seem like we have an avalanche of growers interested in doing hemp. There's a modest number of people that are in this business right now and the cost of doing hemp cultivation in Santa Barbara County is significant and so far the marketplace isn't generating revenues that seem to drive a surge in this activity. Something we've got to pay attention to and monitor Since hemp is legal across the country, there are very many places around the United States that are much cheaper environments to grow this crop on an industrial scale. And I can't for the life of me see why it makes sense to do this in San Barbara County. So I'm hopeful that we will have time to be considered and thoughtful about what additional regulations may be needed, but I support what we're proposing today to get us started on a path to get some controls of what has been unregulated largely to date.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:33:31

Supervisor Williams and then Lavinia.

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction2:33:34

Well I agree with Supervisor Hart's comments. Though, I would advocate that we take one step further and my concern is to protect the Board's discretion. That's really like what earlier today was all about you know the question of whether or not we have discretion And this has been a recurrent theme in some of our LUP discussions, the inland portion on cannabis.

My impression is there are good projects, there are bad projects and there's projects that can be made good. I want us to preserve our discretion to the maximal degree possible. And so, I would advocate that we would establish a cap and you know and a cap that's not like written in stone the way we're treating the cannabis one but one in which since we Don't yet have the ability to come up with land use regulations because of the workflow issues in long-range planning and because this is more rapid to do than a land use ordinance. It just is.

So my thought is that we should establish a very small cap in order to provide some controls. My concern, There's a couple things that could happen. Even without it being very commercially viable at this time, it could become a cloak for black market activity and obviously odor could be an issue. And I think more than anything we can use the lessons we've learned from our previous experiences to kind of build this up Correctly, so you know I would advocate that we establish a cap and if somebody wants to go over the cap They still you know apply and and and try to You know prove the virtuousness of their potential project Incoming to the board

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:36:01

Supervisor Lavinino

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:36:03

Thank You madam chair well It's it's weird because I was just thinking of Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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GuestLottie MartinAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated2:36:32

Supervisor Lavinia, through the chair that is correct. They're currently now allowed or required to register so that would include the GPS coordinates and the acreage and things like that which is addition to what we previously had for just Research Temp was with only the GPS coordinate.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:36:50

And then I find it very interesting that it's one grower basically that has half of the existing grow at this point. I mean in northern Santa Barbara County For a large portion of one year, it was just like everywhere you looked. And it felt like it was kind of out of control and moving in that direction. Of course then everybody realized what Supervisor Hart said this is probably not the best place they can compete with us everywhere and our land is too expensive to really grow hemp so but I also understand that there is some value in what I see being done at Hancock and the research That's being done on this. So, you know, I support smaller grows but You know, I'm fine with the ordinance that we have now but I'd be open to a 200 acre cap at some point.

Obviously that's always at the discretion of the board to open it back up if for some reason we really wanted to get in that business. This is the way I look at it. It's almost the same exact plan. One generates revenue. The other one generates odor without any revenue. This one is a lot of problems, but it actually finances provides resources that we get to use for social services and homeless things. All these other problems that we have in this one doesn't do anything for us. So I don't mind capping at 200 acres or whatever it is now.

And so that's where I'm at.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:38:26

Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:38:27

Yeah, a couple of things. First of all it's legal now so people what we're doing here today for the public is we're actually making it more restrictive. This isn't allowing it you know where Mr. Sciatella brought up that you know we should be having some kind of CEQA finding here that because we're somehow allowing more cannabis or sorry more hemp. That's not the case. We're actually looking at putting regulations in place that can do only thing that could do is restrict not encourage him.

I think this is also good because you know it was mentioned that This could be used as a cloak for the black market. When we identify and we know what's hemp, then nobody can say that's something else or it's really cannabis. This is what I think is really important and a good tool that's going to come out of this regulatory scheme is being called out in advance. We call on our shots. This is hemp. Don't play around with it. And we're not gonna have that problem.

You know, getting back to what was said here that there's eight current operators, 179 acres. 102 and a half acres are from one grower. And I didn't want this to become a whole hearing on hemp and the good and the bad and how farmers are being innovative or trying to be innovative. But for that one that has 100 acres, I'm aware of that situation. And they're using hemp as an off-cycle crop so that it can continue to be profitable growing organically because they can't do organically annually. They have to do something in the out years to clean the soil, to not just leave it fallow, to become diseased and so they found hemp to be a very innovative option for them. So that's the hard thing here and that's what I always want to do is I want to make sure that we're not closing For other farmers to maybe use this plant as a way to be a part of their cycle of being productive agriculture.

I don't want this board or a county or any regulatory body Telling people how to farm. I understand that, and that's one of the reasons why also with the odor issues, I've always stayed away from that being the reason why it might be against a cannabis project because I knew hemp was right behind that and when you smell a freshly cut broccoli field or other pastures there's very lot of fragrance out there and that's one of the struggles with agriculture. You know, I've always tried to look at other issues that might make it incompatible with legacy agriculture I'm going to have a hard time with a cap just because I don't think we know enough. I think the market is driving this already, as you've seen it gone from 300 acres couple years ago down to 170.

It's cut in half. We do have too expensive land. Our water is expensive to pull up from underneath the ground. It is hard to pencil when it can be done almost anywhere else in the country. So I think it's going to take care of itself. I like to move forward with what we've got here And if we do go to a cap, it asks for maybe that be a separate vote. I'm just not ready yet to go down that

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:41:38

route. Thank you, Supervisor Nelson. So my understanding is that the state regulations are now in place. The federal program exists so people can indeed be growing now. They can be planting hemp And my understanding is that hemp is grown for food, fiber or pharmaceuticals. And the CBD products that we see being advertised in almost everything in a pharmacy or a health food store is coming from pharmaceuticals. It's potentially the CBD is very valuable and could be an important market.

The problem For me, an odor is a problem and I find it a different problem than broccoli. And that's why we've really had people in here since we started with the cannabis ordinance asking us to regulate order to the extent that we can. But I think if that doesn't get it for you, I think we have to look at the federal law In 1937, the Marijuana Act regulated both THC cannabis and hemp. And why?

Same thing in 1970, under the Controlled Substances Act. It's THC cannabis and hemp. They're the same plant. They're indistinguishable. And so we've got the problem of pollination and the seedlings are much more expensive than the seeds. We heard from our Agricultural Commissioner that Pulling these out of acres and acres is a really laborious project. And so it's competing with cannabis on that, THC cannabis on that front but I think the most important thing for us right now is on the enforcement front.

It's they look alike and you plant maybe the 3% or less on the outside the other stuff on the inside and it becomes just very, very difficult. And we've heard this earlier for our enforcement people that this creates a huge additional headache for them to allow hemp when we're just trying to get cannabis really on its feet and right now facing a lot of market difficulties anyway so why would we create this additional black market opportunity here in our county?

I believe that it is, I'm very much in favor of the research program and I think Hancock has done a great job. And if hemp has some opportunity for increasing the soil productivity for organics that other crops don't have that are less of a nuisance we should learn about that and figure out how to adapt it into our lives but for myself I would definitely, we're at risk now. People can plant now.

We heard an appeal earlier today that can occur now in that greenhouse so we need to step up or it's gonna get out of control and then when it's out of control, we're gonna try to regulate it and we're gonna have all these legal non-conforming uses and then we're back into a mess that we've already experienced on this board and in our community. So I very much support a cap that holds the acreage to what we are now, and get our regular cannabis market stabilized and then reconsider that going into the future.

Supervisor Hart?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:45:38

Well, I'm persuaded by my board colleague comments that we should have a cap and I can support that. But I do think it is important to recognize the point that Supervisor Nelson mentioned which is we're not creating this. This exists now. This is legal crop. The United States Congress legalized it. State of California did too so we're not creating the market for This is the staff's proposal to regulate it incrementally with this one step that was proposed today. And the board, you know, is agreeing with that I think and taking it further and saying let's put a cap and try to maintain the status quo because it is manageable today the way we have it and we don't want to create all of the unintended consequences or I think this is a good step forward.

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CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction2:46:39

I obviously support a cap and believe that we should just not treat it as sort of gospel. If conditions change, if people are bringing forward meritorious ideas, I'm open to changing it. That it provides some protections from possible problems if we establish a cap at close to the current amount.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:47:14

Supervisor Labanino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:47:15

Well, I'll just make a motion then. It sounds like we're pretty much all on board.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:47:19

I think we need two separate motions one for Supervisor Nelson that would accept the current.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:47:27

All right, I'll move yes.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:47:32

Supervisor Lavagnino, before you do your motion if we are going to add language to the ordinance and you want this today to be the first reading then my recommendation would be that give the staff time to put together that language. I have a few questions for you it might be able to be done today with trailing depending on exactly what you want to be included in the cap but we might need to continue it and come back for first reading

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:47:59

Would it be possible to, okay so we might be able to do it all today assuming there's a board majority to say a cap. If we cannot do it all today can we adopt what we have today and then amend it or add to

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:48:16

Madam Chair, yes that's an option. We could adopt what we have today then we would have a second reading on that and then we'd re-agendize an amendment to it and we could go forward with two readings on that as

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:48:27

well. And from staffs perspective would that be preferable? To give you more certainty or have you anticipated this and possibly could be ready today?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:48:41

Madam Chair, based on your board's direction we could be ready today. Okay so Supervisor

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:48:47

Lavinino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:48:47

Okay I'll move items A through D with subsections I double-I and triple-I

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:49:01

okay and I think we had that on the screen maybe you could just put it up there thank you and do I have a second

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:49:12

And Madam Chair, again I think this is a conceptual motion because we're going to need to have the language before actually taking the action today.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:49:21

Okay. So even that is conceptual?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:49:23

Oh, I'm sorry were we wanting to Were

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:49:26

we going to split it?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:49:26

We're separating. We're taking action on this today.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:49:29

Correct. We are going to hope to take action on the second but Supervisor Nelson wants a different We need to separate them for purposes of the vote because one supervisor may vote differently on the different motions.

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction2:49:43

But that still means we would have to have them both be conceptual?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:49:46

The second one has to be conceptual, I think this one doesn't because all of us want to adopt this today if possible.

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction2:49:56

Yeah, but I thought we just heard from staff that they could bring it back to us today with the change. And so we don't want to adopt it without the change before we adopt it with the change.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:50:07

So Chair Hartman? Mm-hmm. I'm fine with just putting my—I'll end up voting no on the entire package which is fine. Okay. I think I've made my point on the record. All

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:50:21

right. Supervisor Lavanillo, once more for a conceptual motion this time. It's my fault. Thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:50:28

That's okay. A through D with I, double I, triple I and do we want it then for conceptual add that there would also be a 200 acre cap implemented countywide?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:50:42

And is there a second?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:50:45

I'll second.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:50:45

And further discussion, would you consider a cap at what we have currently?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:50:52

Sure but aren't we at

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:50:54

179.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:50:55

All right I could do

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:50:59

180. Okay.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:51:01

Supervisor

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction2:51:02

Williams would you go for 170? I'm okay with either one of those options because Do what our goal is, but I'll agree to that.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:51:10

Okay and let's see this is a conceptual vote. So County Council? Madam Chair, I was just

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:51:18

documenting again that it's conceptual. It's basically you're giving direction to staff to trail the item and come back with okay and But it's fine if you want to make sure we have the votes to do that.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:51:30

Let's let's do that Madame Clerk just call the roll on this conceptual motion

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Supervisor Lavinino. Conceptually, yes. Supervisor Williams? Aye. Supervisor Hart? Supervisor Nelson? No. And Chair Hartman? Aye.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:51:49

Motion passes four to one.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:51:51

OK, so we'll trail this and I think that means we're ready to recess to close session.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:51:59

Madam Chair, members of the board before we break and I understand you've got the cap a couple of things I want to clarify, and do we end up with 180? Is that acre cap 180? Okay. And then I just want the board to be aware that the ordinance won't take effect until 30 days after the second reading. So it's possible that people could register in between now and then.

I just want the board to be aware of that.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:52:37

And then what happens?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:52:40

Well, essentially we would need to build in some kind of amortization period and then the way this current ordinance works is it's not a renewal process, it's re-registration so if that were to happen and It would be phased out over the next year before the re-registration. And I just wanted to make sure that was clear to the

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:53:04

board. But we think we may be able to bring it back today, so that means it would go effective when?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:53:10

So a second reading at which is it next week and then 30 days after that. OK.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:53:19

It's the best we can do. Okay, so now all questions on that answered for the moment and we're convening to close session and County Council, Ms. Van Molen will you tell us what we're going to be considering in closed session today?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:53:39

Thank you, Madam Chair, members of the board in closed session today. We have anticipated litigation, which is government code section five four nine five six point nine significant exposure to civil litigation one case and the agenda documents that we have a submitted claim We also have anticipated litigation deciding whether to initiate litigation, one case.

And we have existing litigation and that's with Zissa versus County Santa Barbara. It's United States District Court Central District of California and our time estimate is about an hour and 15 minutes.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.562:54:15

Okay so we will reconvene then at 130 And we will go to our final item and then trail this hemp till the very end just so everyone knows. Okay, so back at 1 3rd.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.782:54:40

Thanks for the map. you

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed3:51:47

Stop, stop, stop.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.783:55:15

you Thank you. You.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed4:07:59

Yeah. Okay. . . . you Okay.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.784:13:47

Okay.

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Hey.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.784:28:58

Okay. you

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.564:40:13

you We're reconvening the January 25th, 2022 Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors meeting and we've just returned from closed session. County Council will you report out?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:47:20

Thank you Madam Chair. The board met in closed session on one item of anticipated litigation, a significant exposure to civil litigation. Another item of anticipated litigation on deciding whether to initiate civil litigation and existing litigations. This is versus County Santa Barbara and the board took no reportable action.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.564:47:41

Thank you. We did trail the hemp ordinance, we have that back on our tables. Can we go forward with that and close it out or do we need to wait for staff to return?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:47:55

Chair Hartman and members of the board I do believe there actually are a few additional changes they are making.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.564:48:00

Okay so we'll go forward then with our departmental agenda item number four would you read that into the record Madam Clerk?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:48:08

Chair Hartman and members of the board, departmental item number four is from the county executive office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an update on the coronavirus disease 2019 COVID-19.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.564:48:20

Thank you Dr. Del Reynoso.

CommentAnd Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction4:48:23

Good afternoon chair Hartman and members of the board both Dr. Ansorg and I will be providing your board with an update on COVID- 19 next. To begin I'd like to present to your board a summary of our numbers. Our new cases stand at 780, we reported two new deaths and these are both individuals who were 70 plus years of age, had underlying medical conditions but not associated with a congregate care site.

The individuals resided in Santa Ynez Valley and Santa Maria. With regards to active cases, we are reporting 5,645. We have 139 hospitalized with 17 in the ICU. Our total case count is 73,544 total deaths stand at 587. Our case rate per 100,000 is 181.02 with testing positivity at 23.4 next Similar to many other counties in California, Santa Barbara County's coronavirus transmission numbers continued to improve over the weekend. It appears that we may have peaked and hopefully passed the worst of the Omicron surge However, COVID-19 case and positivity numbers remain well above pre Omicron records. Meaning that we are still at highest levels of transmission than we have ever seen at a case rate of 181. Next.

This graph describes our case rate by vaccination status. As of January 13, our case rate among unvaccinated individuals is 631 per 100,000 versus the low 154 per 100,000 among vaccinated individuals. This means that in Santa Barbara County unvaccinated individuals are four times more likely to get COVID than fully vaccinated individuals this The data that we are presenting in this graph continues to show the compelling difference between unvaccinated and vaccinated infections.

Also noted is the unvaccinated case rate has a significantly steeper increase compared to the vaccinated case rate, which is beginning to trend downwards. Next. Currently there are 71% of hospital beds in use and 81% of staffed ICU beds in use. So, of the 595 hospital beds 420 are in use and with that number 139 are for COVID-19. Of the 62 staffed ICU beds we have Of the 62 staffed ICU beds, we have 50 in use with 17 of them for COVID-19. Next.

As of 1-24, COVID hospitalizations have increased in our county by 309% in a month. This new surge in COVID-19 hospitalization surpasses values that we saw in the summer. Last week, I met with the hospital CEOs and we had a conversation about COVID admissions. And so we found that of the COVID-19 patients hospitalized, about 25 to 33% come with COVID and the remaining came because of COVID. So even Even if the COVID patients who are admitted for other reasons, like a real life example of eight labor and delivery patients who came to deliver babies but were found to be COVID positive upon testing. These eight will require extra resources to support their COVID state so COVID state does impact hospitalization.

Next. This is a summary of our vaccination rate as of 1-23. We have 78.4% of eligible Santa Barbara individuals vaccinated, and we have 70.1% of eligible Santa Barbara County as fully vaccinated. Next. Our mobile vaccination program continues to focus on areas that are lower in vaccination coverage. Please check our website at publichealthsbc.org for details of our vaccine clinics throughout the county. In addition, we've been focusing on Isla Vista and Goleta to increase the vaccination rates in the 93117 zip code, which has the lowest vaccination coverage in our county.

Next. Currently we have 211 active outbreaks that our team is managing. We have 93 outbreaks among businesses, 48 among schools and 70 among congregate living facilities. Next. With regards to testing sites, community testing sites. I'd like to update your board that at the 11th hour we were unable to enter into contract with a site And so we are exploring and with a second site that we had in mind. So the ETA is unknown for Goleta, the Goleta site but the state staff are ready to set up shop once we have a confirmation of a site in turnaround time for results. For the last week, the median turnaround time is 72 hours. Next.

With regards to antigen testing, our health care center placed two orders for a total of 205,200 kits and each kit contains two tests. The number of kits received as of today is 165,996 kits. We have 77 partners that we have engaged countywide to assist us in distributing these kits. We have engaged 25 partners in North County, 15 in Mid-County, 33 in South County and four partners who serve countywide.

Next. With the distribution of kits, during week one which was last week we distributed 36,450 total kits and 48% went to North County 8% to Mid-County and 44% went to South County. This week's distribution will include giving out a 71,550 total kits with 40% going to North County, 22% going to Mid-County and 38% going to South County. And this is a nice graph of or a nice map showing where all of our partners are.

So we strive to ensure that the antigen testing distribution is widely available throughout our county. Next. Last week, your board inquired about national data in comparison with our state data and our local data. This first slide is is about COVID cases in the U.S., with cases reporting at six hundred and ninety thousand four hundred and forty eight and with one hundred and fifty seven thousand four hundred and twenty nine hospitalized and two thousand and 182 deaths. And this is a graph that is very similar, but on a smaller scale what we are experiencing in California.

A note about this national data across the U.S., we are seeing the Omicron surge starting to recede with 17 states reporting decreasing cases over the past two weeks Next. So this is COVID cases in California as of yesterday. And again, we are somewhat mirroring the national graphs but again on a much smaller scale with 108,751 cases 15,829 hospitalized and 123 deaths reported yesterday.

Next. This is comparing trends in cumulative cases. Again, last week there were inquiries about how our outcomes are compared with regards to Arizona, Florida and Texas and other states And so this is a graph that describes cumulative cases to reported to CDC in these four states. And these are cumulative cases per 100,000 by submission date. So you have the blue line which is the top line at 24,899 And that is Florida.

And the next line is the purple line with 24,078 from Arizona and the third line, the lower line in brown is 20,466 reported by Texas and the lowest is the green line reported by California at 19,160. Cumulative metrics can help us understand the overall impact of a disease on a population, especially given differences in policies and strategies. We are reporting today only cumulative cases and cumulative deaths because only 36 states and territories report cumulative hospitalizations so the data around Next slide.

It is this is cumulative deaths per 100,000 by submission date to CDC. The top line is 352 as reported by Arizona the second line is 298 in blue, reported by Florida. The third line is in brown at 265 reported by Texas and the lowest line is 197 as reported by California. Next. And I'd like to transition to Dr. Ansorg, who will be presenting the next few slides.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed5:02:29

And also, Chair Hartman and members of the board. The press is really writing a lot and speaking a lot about when is this pandemic finally going into an endemic phase? I just wanted to use this opportunity to give some definitions and a little bit of insight in this. A pandemic is a worldwide epidemic, basically that happens around the globe on a large scale. That's what we're experiencing right now. An epidemic is the same thing but geographically or in population with a significant but limited outbreak.

of a disease, and endemic actually means a disease that has a constant presence in a certain population or in a geographic area but it is manageable. And it's not causing enough illness to disrupt normal life activities or overwhelm the healthcare system. We are used to you know infectious diseases like measles varicella mumps influenza flu common cold and this Those kind of diseases, they are endemic. They are a nuisance. Sometimes they cause death or problems but they never overwhelm the hospital system and they don't make us having to change policies to keep people safe. Next slide please.

So COVID, when is COVID going into an endemic phase? Even Dr. Fauci is very careful because there are certain requirements that would have to be fulfilled. We now understand that the SARS-CoV-2 virus will never be eradicated but it will remain in the population at some level and it will cause periodic waves of infections Quite similar to influenza or mumps or the common cold even.

For an infection that relies on person-to-person transmission like COVID, to remain endemic for a long period of time or forever every infected person on average must pass it on to at least another one The other person has to be susceptible to the virus. So the more people in the population are immune to the virus, a smaller number of people will get infected and outbreaks will be limited.

Next slide please. What are the strategies that we have to focus on and take into account for policymaking and recommendations? We need high vaccination rates with boosters. We now know that boosters have an enormous impact on how robust the immunity is against Omicron, for instance. Just last week the CDC came out with a very good paper showing that people That the immunity against the Omicron virus wanes faster after within the first six months. And that's why it is very important to get a booster, to have much improved protection against Omicron.

We do have fortunately some medications now that are very effective. We have monoclonal antibodies, we've had them for quite a while. Unfortunately the ones that we have used widely are not effective against Omicron. So as of yesterday the FDA withdrew the approval for use of BAM-80 as we call it and Regeneron as monoclonal antibodies because they are not effective against Omicron. And Omicron is prevalent, it's 99% of all COVID infections in the United States.

We have fortunately one new one. Monoclonal antibody has to be given through an intravenous infusion at the hospital to patients with moderate illness due to COVID Uh, and that would have a high risk for poor outcomes. And the drug is called Sotrovimab and unfortunately it is in short supply so we are receiving on a We have received on a weekly basis, even though the CDPH says it's a bi-weekly basis. But we have received on a weekly basis small amounts and we are giving them to our hospitals, our emergency room of all the hospitals as well as to the Central Coast Healthcare Centers who have infusion site where they can take advantage As probably everybody has heard, there are two oral medications also available now. One is called Paxlovid.

It's a five-day oral pill just like Tommy flew for influenza for instance and It is again meant for people who are COVID positive with mild to moderate symptoms not needing hospitalization and who are at increased risk for poor outcomes, especially people over 65. I'm already starting at age 50, then people with you know higher body mass indexes or other underlying conditions have a higher risk for poor outcomes with COVID. And therefore it's really important new medication that we have that can be taken at home.

We are really hoping that the company is going to produce this medication on a large scale. We just sent a provider alert to all of our medical providers in the county on Friday, giving them clear instructions on whom to prioritize for this drug. And also the considerations for prescribing the drug because there are certain interactions with other medications that have to be thoroughly evaluated before prescribing the drug. Because it's a brand new drug every doctor has to learn about it and we're helping In collaboration with all of our outpatient physicians.

There is another drug that's been used for a while already it's called remdesivir. It's also an antiviral, not a monoclonal antibody. And it has to be given intravenously as well but it is now also approved for outpatient treatment which is absolutely helpful. It's very effective in reducing severe outcomes and minimizing death from the disease however It has to be given on three consecutive days with an IV infusion, and that is of course a logistical problem. But some clinics may be able to take advantage of this. The last drug by the company Merck is called Monupiravir.

And it is really only to be used if there is no other drug available because effectiveness is much below, it's only 30% as opposed to almost 90% of the other drugs. So we don't encourage that as a first choice but only if there's no other option available As we all know, we are all getting more and easier access to self-testing which is a really big important part because if people can self test and then once they're positive when they identify they are positive even if they don't have symptoms. They can isolate themselves and not spread the virus further that is a very important piece to make sure that we reach the endemic state sooner rather than later.

In the meantime, we should really keep with social distancing and masking in public indoor settings. We should avoid crowds until this Omicron surge is over. So if this goes according to what we are seeing right now and what we're seeing in other countries and in New York for instance, we may have passed the peak locally for the Omicron surge, and we are just hoping that it is going down very rapidly.

And that we will be at a really safer and better place in the very near future I would say middle of February. We should see much lower case rates and hospitalizations will obviously lag behind. Just because Omicron is really less virulent, the percentage of people who are infected that require hospitalizations is much lower. Unfortunately though we have such a huge number of new infections every day That the end result is that right now we have 139 patients in the hospital. That's a huge, huge increase from even four weeks ago when we were talking about 30 people in the hospitals. The ICU stay is not as ICU care has not increased that much. We have currently 17 in the ICU and we used to hover around 10 people in the ICU.

So if we have high vaccination rate as high with boosters, as high as possible. If we have more readily available and easy to take antiviral medications If maybe we get newer vaccines, but I don't see this to happen this year. That will happen that will protect also against other variants and if we continue to get even better testing and more available testing for safety and to isolate ourselves then we should really be on track to reach an endemic state sometime This year.

So is there another slide? Let's look. Just happy people, so I leave that to Doctor Dober and also who was, I think participating in giving out the test kits.

CommentAnd Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction5:14:32

Yes, thank you Dr. Ansford. So last Saturday our health care center in Santa Maria hosted a drive-through to distribute 6,750 test kits to the community. Here joining our team of nine staff was Director of DSS Daniel Nielsen and Supervisor Nelson It was a great event and we were thrilled to be able to serve our community in this manner. Next. What was really sweet is that a little girl approached us during the event and handed us a handful of cards. And this was the front and the back of the card. We're 22 months into the pandemic response efforts, and it is moments like this that really re-energizes us in our efforts to protect our community, to serve our community.

With that, thank you.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:15:40

Thank you Dr. Ansorg and Dr. Doreen Oso. Questions from the board? Supervisor Nelson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:15:49

Yes, thank you Chair Hartman. My question is about the public health testing locations. I saw in there it says turnaround time is 24 to 36 hours, I've been hearing from the public somewhere between five and eight days which is very problematic especially since that's often longer than the quarantine period so I'm just trying to square that. I imagine with the Omicron spike there was a lot of additional people pushing towards testing along with the schools Was that a temporary glitch or is that, where are we at?

CommentAnd Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction5:16:28

Supervisor Nelson through the chair. So at our community testing sites, the state processes the tests and due to the sheer number of tests that need to be processed we are seeing anywhere from 24 hours to 72 hours with a median being in the 72 hour range so it's It's nothing that we can do. We check in with the state and the state is just the sheer number of cases, of tests that have to be processed.

And we encourage... So we also encourage community members who've been exposed, who are symptomatic to safeguard their isolation and quarantine period while they wait for the test results.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:17:25

Thank you, Dr. DeRosa. Yeah so I'm just you know 24 to 72 hours I think works. You know five to eight days becomes a problem especially if somebody needs to make a decision on whether they go back to work or not yet they don't know if they've been exposed and so it's again it's really problematic. I'm sure you're already sending that message to the state but just wanted to make sure I relayed that today thank you

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:17:54

Supervisor Williams, then Labanino. I

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction5:17:57

just wanted a little bit more progress on our effort to get boosters at skilled nursing facilities. You know obviously we don't regulate skilled nursing facilities you're just there to help but I would like to you know know what you know and what your folks are up to to try to help address that

CommentAnd Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction5:18:21

Our team, we actually have a specific team that goes into our residential skilled nursing facilities and that was our number one priority to ensure that skilled nursing facilities of large sizes as well as small sizes Are given the opportunity to get booster shots. So I'm to my to the best of my knowledge We have made that round and everyone who needed or who wanted to be boosted Have received their boosters so if there are specific skilled nursing facilities that That we're not aware of please let me know and we will resolve that

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:19:03

Supervisor Lavinia

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.875:19:05

Thank You madam chair, so Dr. Reynoso, you did address something that I keep reading about that's at the front of my mind. It's with the hospitalizations and the numbers that we see. And I read an article, I believe it was in the San Francisco Chronicle where they determined almost 45% of the hospitalization number that they're reporting are people testing positive in the hospital like you said maybe there for a birth or surgery or something else And I understand what you were saying about that still impacts the hospital because it's a staffing issue.

But, It seems like numbers we used to use two years ago now have a lot less impact. I guess there's a different correlation. I was just wondering if you could speak to that of, it seemed like back in the day it was you had a case which then means you were probably going to have a hospitalization, which then meant you were probably going to have somebody in the ICU on a ventilator where now case doesn't seem really to relate to hospitalization. Hospitalization doesn't result in an ICU.

Can you just kind of talk about that for a second?

CommentAnd Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction5:20:20

Yes, I can start and Dr. Ansorg may add if I'm missing pieces but in our conversation with the hospital CEOs the fact is that yes we know that with this Omicron surge The percentage of hospitalization and correlating percentage of death is not like previous surges. It is less severe, and it has less severe outcomes but the fact is that when you have 25 to 30 even if you have 25 to 33 percent of your COVID cases hospitalized It still impacts the hospital with regards to the attention and the resources to treat the COVID state.

And we are happy to report that it looks like Omicron is not requiring a high level of ventilation usage as we did previously. But again, the sheer number of cases and even if we look at a smaller percentage of that going to the hospital, it is still quite large. Dr. Ezra, do you have? Any additional comments?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed5:21:56

Yes. Supervisor Laminino, you're right in that there are definitely patients hospitalized in California and across the country who would not need hospital care for their COVID infection however That varies from area to area. It also depends on how active an individual hospital is with elective procedures, for instance. I know that Cottage Hospital has scaled back drastically they're only doing like 25% of you know planned procedures compared to previously in order to open up more space for COVID care and And that's why they really only have about 25% of new admits with COVID that are not admitted because of severe COVID illness. However, if you have 150 people, yesterday it was 150 today it's 139 and you take 75% of those, that's still a huge number of really severely ill people And we do know that with Delta, the relative risk for The number of people dying from COVID with unvaccinated people is 53 times that of a vaccinated person.

So, with Omicron it's not quite as drastic but we do know that the people who end up in the ICU on a ventilator for weeks and eventually die are almost exclusively unvaccinated

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:23:52

If you

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catch the infection and if they are unlucky and over 50 or 55 and unvaccinated and have a little bit of other risk factor, their risk is really tremendously high. And that's why nationally and locally we still have a huge number of obviously new cases but also we are reporting huge numbers It may be less than 1% of the infections that require hospitalization as opposed to 10% that we talked about previously. Just the sheer number of them will add up significantly, so we have way more than in our Delta surge or last So it's our hospitals are very, very strained and I hope that this is over sooner than later. So

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.875:24:57

yeah, I think we all feel that way doctor answer so and I guess I have a question of you know it's kind of hard to talk about it now but when it is over you know it would be really I don't think I've ever seen a breakdown You know the people that died, there's this national conversation now going on about okay who did die. How many were obese? How many had diabetes?

And I know like public health has always had you know this healthy eating active living change your lifestyle improve your lifestyle how that's gonna help you live longer but when we're in the middle of this it doesn't seem like we're talking about it that much because we're just trying to get people to stay alive But that seems to have a huge, you know the folks that are dying have a disproportionately very high percentage of obesity and diabetes and other comorbidities.

That when this is all over we've got to address again.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:26:08

Supervisor Williams?

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction5:26:10

Well, to me even though the scales are different it's following a familiar pattern of the last surges which is you get high case rates and then you get higher hospitalizations and then you get higher ICU and then you get higher deaths. And as Dr. Ansford said, there's still 2,000 people dying a day nationwide. And it's having consequences because you have to adapt to the number of people in the hospital.

Have electives been canceled at Cottage? Dr. Donor-Ranosa?

CommentAnd Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction5:27:00

Yes, they have. And so with at Cottage they have and at Marion they are selectively on a case by case basis and more restricted in their electives and the same for for Lompoc Valley Medical Center. So those two hospitals are being selective in procedures, mainly keeping the outpatient electives available and really restricting the inpatient.

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction5:27:37

And I think that's proof positive that this is negatively impacting the system because it's not It's not an ideal situation and I'm sure they, though I support their move. It will have consequences to cancel elective surgeries which is the possibility of more people having more severe conditions or dying because they couldn't get their elective surgery. So we're not out of the woods yet.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:28:08

Supervisor Hart?

CommentNancy EmersonProposed · by introduction5:28:10

Oh, I'm sorry. One last question just on the ages so we get a sense of the school outbreaks and the numbers that are under 17. Are those mostly teenagers as we've seen in the past or is it the younger set that aren't unable to get vaccinated? And if you don't have those numbers, just what do you see anecdotally through what places are getting outbreaks elementary?

CommentAnd Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction5:28:45

We actually have those numbers. So when we look at our pediatric age groups, we are seeing that they follow the uptick in cases in general. At our recent peak there were fifteen hundred and forty six cases with an episode date on January 10th So of this, 5% were zero to four year olds. 24% were five to 17 year olds. So I would say that the percentage breakdowns are pretty consistent with what we're seeing.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:29:27

Thank you Supervisor Hart.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:29:29

Looking at the charts that you presented today, it seems to me that the headline is the decrease in cases from the peak. And I just want to make sure I'm reading these charts right. It looks to me like we're down from the peak of 256 cases per 100,000. I'm going to go ahead and get started. It's really difficult to discern from the scale of these charts, but it looks like this happened so quickly. The surge came on us within a month at the beginning of December, I guess about six weeks really and if the trend line continues and we don't know but it looks like it is, we could be on the other side of this in another month or so which makes me think that this moment in time right now is particularly important to keep that momentum going And that our best strategy are masks.

People clearly have responded to the urgency of the moment and are wearing masks more regularly, being conscious about being in crowds and we're starting to see the effect of that. And I just wanna encourage people to hang in this with not that much longer to get to the other side of that because we could see as people do this new behavior The benefits of that accelerate the progress and we're going to get to a better place quicker. I just want to make sure I'm reading these charts right and understanding that headline correctly.

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CommentAnd Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction5:31:21

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have to maintain our diligence in wearing our masks and we have to make sure that our community members are getting vaccinated and are getting boosted. So those are, as Dr. Anzor mentioned, those are very critical strategies as the peak continues to decline. We definitely don't want a movement in the wrong direction.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:32:02

Thank you, Doctor Duranosa.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:32:04

And I had a couple of questions. The first is about contact tracing and registering the number of cases now that so many people are doing home tests, and they may be positive. So we're not registering those, I take it, or contact tracing. That's mainly in congregate settings. Is that correct? That is correct. And the second I could you talk about testing available in the San Ysidro Valley?

CommentAnd Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction5:32:42

With the PCR testing at the community site, we continue to look for a site that could host the state coming in and setting up shop. So our team continues to look for that site and we made sure that in the distribution of the at-home antigen tests have access to distribute

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:33:11

them. Thank you very much for that and a couple of questions about child care if I understand correctly preschools have been invited to go with aptitude but there are much of our childcare in the county is in home and I wondered if there's any opportunity to use either the county or Children's Resource and Referral To provide technical assistance to those in-home providers so that they could take advantage of the testing.

CommentAnd Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction5:33:46

Great question, Supervisor Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:33:49

It comes from Gina Fisher of course.

CommentAnd Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction5:33:53

So we were very mindful when we received the cash, the allocation of tests. We set aside a significant amount for unsupported As you may have heard, previous what I would say three to four weeks ago we had heard that the state was going to allocate to private schools and child care directly. We now know that the state is having challenges acquiring at-home antigen tests so it is because your board support Our five health care centers, we have the ability to draw down those test kits from our federal partner HRSA.

So with that allocation we have set aside a certain amount to provide to our child care providers. And whether it is partnering with other CBOs in our community, to make sure that they know where to access them, we can do some follow-up work on that but we have set aside allocations for our in home childcare providers as well as our childcare agencies.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:35:16

Thank you so much for paying attention to that. And just one other comment before public comment, and that is I really appreciate the discussion on I think it was five or six ifs, but if these various things happen. But at least it gives us a better framework for understanding how we're going to be making this transition and that helps to be able to envision what it looks like that we really can get there.

So with that,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:35:50

Chair Hartman I just have one more question if I can interrupt.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:35:52

Oh yes sorry I don't see

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:35:53

you always around the corner there. No yeah I apologize I jumped in there thank you Chair Hartman. I just had a question about I know we're really utilizing our community based organizations to get the antigen tests out You know, are we going to go back and kind of monitor those as well? You know because there's you know some of them may have the ability get them all out quickly. Some of them may not be able to utilize them. Are we can check him back in and see if we can't redeploy those again thank you for inviting me to participate with you guys on Saturday that was a great event. We were able to pass out 6,000 tests in just a few hours so huge success I mean I like to see those happen a little bit more often that's one That people want, you know that now they knew that works so well.

They like to do that again. So I'm another community based organizations is a strategy but if some of them can't get them out. I guess I would encourage maybe a alternative strategy to kind of recollect those after a period of time and try to get out through. The drive-through approach that we did on Saturday. So just a suggestion.

CommentAnd Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction5:36:59

Thank you, Supervisor Nelson through the chair and great question as a matter of fact we could not give all of our partners all the requested kits that they wanted so on the first flush actually most of our partners if not all gave them out within days So now we are on week two, and we will definitely make sure that those are out the door as soon as our partners receive them. But it is really unlikely that any have any available since they are very, very vested in pushing them out as soon as they receive them

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:37:45

And just to follow on, so they report back to public health that they have in fact used their allocation distributed?

CommentAnd Madam ClerkProposed · by introduction5:37:56

Yes. We check and one of the key guidance from HRSA is that we can't hoard those antigen tests, that we need to push them out to our community members as soon as possible. So it's really guiding and counseling our partners that we will have additional allocations from HRSA so they really need to push this out ASAP. Thank you so much. And

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:38:30

now Madam Clerk to public comment

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:38:34

Chair Hartman and members of the board, yes we have one request to speak on this item. And we will be going to Zoom for Maria Kessler. Maria?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed5:38:50

Hello again Board of Supervisors I hope you can hear me.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:38:53

We can.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed5:38:56

This is some loose comments to make. I'm still requesting and waiting for the messy data from the county, you have a legal obligation to fulfill all these public records requests that you received and you have not fulfilled one of them. You also have a legal obligation to guide us to the original sources and spreadsheets. And so like for example, you put up a slideshow today we would like to see the data For example, my father-in-law was a psychology professor but he was also a statistician for the government.

And he always used to say give me your desired outcome and I will create the parameters. So we would like access to that data that we have lawfully requested and that the County of Santa Barbara has refused to provide to us. And then I wanted to go over a few other things Dr. Malone, inventor of the mRNA vaccines. He's a virologist and an immunologist. He is coming to Santa Barbara City College on March 19th.

And would Dr. Amsterk come and join him so we can have a public debate about all the science that is out there? Because apparently again as I've said before there is consensus in the bureaucratic government world Across nations, but there is major dissent in the scientific world and the medical world. And some of them call obscene COVID policies serve big pharma not people experts say. A group of World Rehab Doctors and Medical Experts who joined Senator Ron Johnson for a panel discussion on COVID blasted the federal government response to the global pandemic calling many of the policies obscene absurd illogical non-scientific Some of these people are Dr. Peter McCoyle, an internist cardiologist epidemiologist and a leader in the outpatient treatment of SARS-CoV-2 infection.

And Dr. Ryle Cole, CEO and medical director for Diagnostics said we have been told the virus is novel but it is 80% similar to a virus expected decades ago. We have Dr. Harvey Rich, professor of epidemiology in the Department of Epidemiology and Public Health At the Yale School of Public Health and Yale School of Medicine, said early use of hydrochloric cream dramatically reduces the risk of hospitalization and mortality. But the media covered it up. And the US Food and Drug Administration and Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority used emergency use authorization regulations to block HCQ in outpatients accepting randomized trials that were eventually caught up over the fears spread by a fake

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:41:57

Thank you, Miss Kessner. That is your time. Alright bringing it back to the board may I have a motion to receive and file this report and see that it's exempt from CEQA so moved

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:42:11

second.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:42:15

Nelson made the motion and Hart seconded. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously so that takes us back to the hemp ordinance we've been passed out each of us has received the revisions let's just take a minute to read them while staff gets set up Ms. Fischer, would you like to start? Ms. Martin, you're going to do it.

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GuestLottie MartinAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated5:44:02

Okay, thank you. Good afternoon Madam Chair, Supervisors. Basically we have just two slides with updates so if I could go over them. The language added a 180 acre cap on the cultivation of hemp in the county and establishes a one year amortization period for any hemp operations who register before the cap becomes effective. And finally, the language regarding research hemp in Section 6 is being removed because it was added before the state's hemp plan was certified and is no longer needed.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:44:40

All right. Are there any questions or comments? I think you've done a brilliant job in turning this around and really encapsulating the sense of the board. I believe we have one public commenter, and then we'll come back and Supervisor Lovanino can add

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:45:04

Madam Clerk. Chair Hartman and members of the board, we are still waiting on confirmation if they would like to speak but council did suggest that we reopen public comment since the ordinance was revised by staff and if any members of the public who previously spoke on this item, the three members of the public who previously spoke would like to speak again in regards to their revision now would be the time to do so and perhaps I can unmute Mr. Mark Shatillo who is on Zoom

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:45:37

Go ahead Mr. Shitolo.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:45:40

Thank you Madam Chair, members of the board and staff thank you for to staff for sending over a copy of the revisions they seem appropriate and I don't have any comments to their substance.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:45:52

Okay with that we close public comment and come back to Supervisor Lavenino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.875:45:58

Well I will make move the recommended staff actions that we approve the introduction of the ordinance And along with the CEQA guidelines and requirements that we set the hearing on February 1st to consider the adoption of the ordinance, and with the revisions to the ordinance as associated with the CAP amendment.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:46:26

Okay, we have

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.875:46:27

a Rachel wants to say something. You want to clean up my motion? Go ahead.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:46:31

Madam Chair and members of the board, what I hear you saying is staff's recommended actions with the revisions just posted today both on online in paper before you and also on the screen. And just since I'm on the microphone usually you would also see Senior Deputy Johanna Hartley here who has been helping with this behind the scenes so I just wanted to thank her for that quick work.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.565:46:54

Yes, it was quick and very thorough. Thank you Ms. Hartley. So we have a motion and a second. Could we have a roll call vote please?

Roll-call vote Passed 3–1 motion and a second. Could we have a roll call
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Supervisor Lavenino? Aye. Supervisor Williams? Aye Supervisor Hart? Aye Supervisor Nelson? No Chair Hartman? Aye

Motion passes 4-1 So I think that concludes today's agenda and we're adjourned till Tuesday, February 1st 2022.