BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 March 1, 2022

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:15

Good morning and welcome to our March 1st, 2022 meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors here in Santa Barbara. Madam Clerk would you please

Roll call, called by Clerk of the Board
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call the roll? Supervisor Lavenino. Here. Supervisor Williams. Supervisor Hart. Here. Supervisor Nelson. Here and Chair Hartman. Here at the record reflect that Supervisor Williams is absent
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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:35

but I do believe he is on his way all right thank you and please stand and join me

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:40

for

And next item of business is approval of the minutes of the February 15th meeting. Are there any changes or corrections to the minutes? If not, may I have a motion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:09

A motion to move approval.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:10

And a second? Second. All in favor please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? The minutes are approved. CEO Miyasato do you have a report today?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:21

I do, Chair Hartman. A couple of items to announce the first is the county is seeking the public's feedback on the draft 2022 County Multi-Jurisdictional Hazard Mitigation Plan update. The plan is updated every five years to prepare our community for changing and dynamic hazards identifying vulnerable communities and structures in preparing mitigation goals The public is encouraged to review the draft plans, provide feedback at ReadySBC.org that's ReadySBC.org. The public comment period begins today and goes through March 15th. The public may also attend a virtual workshop on March 9th to learn more about the draft plan and the workshop information is also included on ReadySbc.org My second announcement is good news and that's the county in partnership with the California Office of Small Business Advocate and the Santa Barbara Foundation announced A micro-business COVID-19 relief grant program with emphasis on micro businesses.

The application period opens March 7th on a rolling basis until all funds are granted. Eligible micro businesses that were adversely impacted by the coronavirus pandemic may apply for up to $2,500 in funding issued from the California Micro Business COVID- 19 Relief Grant Program. To learn more go to sbfoundation.org and click the COVID- Menu at the top and select COVID-19 business community resources. Thank you

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:44

Thank you, and madam clerk any changes to

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:47

today's agenda or announcements? Chair Hartman and members of the board, I do have a couple quick announcements this morning. First, I'd like to announce that we did receive a request from the department to continue administrative item number 16 to our March 8th meeting. Administrative item number 16 is from the Sheriff Coroner's Office. It is to consider recommendations regarding an acceptance of grant funding from the California Department of Justice, DOJ, to allow for effective enforcement of firearm laws.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:19

This we did receive a request from the department to continue this item to next week's meeting on March 8th And if we can just add that to the balance of the administrative agenda, I Would also like to remind the public that the Board of Supervisors meetings are being interpreted and broadcast live in Spanish We are broadcasting our meetings in Spanish both for Cox Cable subscribers in South County as well as Comcast cable subscribers in North County. Members of the public can now view our meetings in Spanish by turning on the secondary audio programming, also known as SAP or SAP under their language settings. This information is also being currently provided in Spanish through the TV scroll.

Lastly, I would like to remind the public who are participating in our meeting today of the board's updated methods of public participation. For the Board of Supervisors' methods of public participation and to provide

public comment on general public comment or an item on the board's agenda please see page 2 of the agenda. Members of the public can attend meetings in person Both in the Santa Barbara Board hearing room chambers as well as the Santa Maria board hearing room chambers. Please note, the board is following all local and state guidelines. And as of today we are no longer requiring face coverings indoors. If you attend the board meeting in person, you will no longer be required to wear a face covering but please be advised that the public health department is still strongly encouraging all county staff and members of the public to mask and socially distance themselves in crowded areas.

I would also like to remind the public that if you require any special accommodations, please contact the clerk of the board to make that request preferably on the Friday prior to the board meeting. Individuals that would like to provide verbal public comment virtually may do so via Zoom by registering in advance via the link available on page two. After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing important information about joining the virtual meeting.

Once the chair has announced the item you want to comment on, please join the meeting with the information provided. You will be placed on mute until it is your turn to speak. The clerk will call you by name. When removed from mute, you will hear a notification that your line has been unmuted. If you are using a touchtone phone, you may need to press star six to unmute yourself. Again if you're using a touchtone phone, you may need to press star six to unmute yourself. Each person might address the board for up to three minutes and this is at the discretion of If you have any questions, please contact the Clerk of the Board's Office at 805-568-2240. Again that is 805 568 2240 and that concludes my announcements for today.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role8:55

Thank you. Are there any administrative items on the agenda that any board members would like to pull? That is our

next item of business. Supervisor Williams

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed9:05

I'd just like to pull a eight for a separate vote.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role9:08

Okay, anybody else? And any members of the public?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role9:16

Chair Hartman and members of the board we have requests from the public to speak on administrative item number four as well as administrative item number 15.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role9:25

Number four and what was the final one?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role9:27

Oh I'm sorry administrative item 4 and 15. Fifteen

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role9:31

okay thank you. Let's take administrative item number four. Would you read that into the record, Madam Clerk?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role9:40

Chair Hartman and members of the board, Administrative Item Number Four is from the County Executive Office. It is to consider recommendations regarding an amendment to Chapter 50 of the county code licensing of cannabis operations. And we have six requests to speak on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role9:57

All right.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role9:59

And we will go to Zoom with Nancy Emerson to be followed by Anna Carrillo. Nancy.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed10:13

Good morning, Chairperson Hartman and board members. We watch is very concerned about the actions you plan to take today adopting amendments to Chapter 50 regulations that separate cannabis processing from cultivation and remove processing acreage from the cap. The CAP's purpose was to control the amount of cannabis that could be grown or processed and residents were assured that you would not change it.

It seems like most of you intentionally plan to break that promise. It's not the 3 plus 9 acres of processing removed and used for more cultivation that is our primary concern, but the unknown number of new processing projects that will enable cannabis activity far beyond the cap. We do not disagree that there are good reasons to facilitate processing in our county, such as less traffic control of processing by those who grow and county income. What worries us is that you are leaping into these changes with no careful consideration of the consequences for residents and existing agriculture. Your earlier hurried decisions to not regulate Ag-2, and to use a statement of overriding considerations for the EIR have made it very hard even impossible for residents and agriculturalists to coexist with cannabis activities.

And now you are proposing this." If cannabis is being cultivated on AG 140 land above 20 acres, a CUP is required. But a high percentage of applications have been for AG 2 cultivation. There is no regulation regarding the total number allowed of these processing facilities, their size location or odor control unless 51% or more of land is in cultivation or an EDRN is only accessed. Only one project approved to date may be close to the 51% and most aren't driving through EDRNs.

You hope planning will bring CUP language to you soon, but there's no guarantee of that or that a majority will vote for it. There may be a sizable number of applications and it's not okay to start processing them until there is a CUP. Can you even require a CUP if the processing application amends an existing LUP? Finally, these are land use issues being decided within the business license because the cap is in it. That itself is cause for concern but for it's not the proper place for such regulations and there's very little transparency with Chapter 50. Thank

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role13:31

you Miss Emerson.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role13:35

We will now go to Anna Carrillo to be followed by Sarah Trigato.

CommentAna CarrilloProposedself-stated13:45

Good morning, Board of Supervisors. My name is Ana Carrillo and I'm basically calling about what's happening in Carpinteria. I agree with everything Nancy Emerson said but right now in Carpinteria we already have Many, many, many processing facilities. I think when I wrote before, I think I put that there were 19 now I've counted up that there could be almost 25.

So anyway, I just wanted to, I think carpentry, the coastal zone, just like we didn't get pulled in or we didn't get allowed to have the small acreage ban from cultivation. This should be a whole separate issue for carpentry. Initially, I had arrived at the number of 19 or I think I wrote 15 here by just counting up the number of people who had provisional licenses that then were you know they got their CDPs and then they became you know they all will have processing part. I mean now I see that we have almost seven and a half acres that are dedicated to processing in Carpinteria There are currently at least 21 different operators who have already received their CDPs that include processing in their approved permits. Most of them have been doing processing under their state temporary and then state provisional licenses issued initially in 2019, continually renewed and have continued to get approved for processing in their newly approved CDPs.

There have already been 10 new CDPs issued that include processing that haven't even started yet, and they're brand new operations which aren't even operating yet. There are two new projects that have been approved that will only do processing with no cultivation associated with old flower warehouses now being converted for processing. There are also CDPs already issued for two projects that plan to build brand-new buildings for processing.

As Carpinteria already has plenty of processing, almost every different operation has their own approved processing. It's a very different situation here than in the inland area. Currently Carpinteria almost has seven and a half and out of the one it's a huge percentage out of the 186 acre cap compared to the three acres of the 1,595 acres approved in the inland areas In the Carpinteria Valley, cannabis cultivation including processing is situated along basically two four-mile stretches of roadways and interspersed with many ADRNs. The city of Carpinteria, Carpinteria High School, two daycare facilities and a couple of private schools. Carpinteria should be excluded from this part of the business license change if you do it as Carpinteria was not included.

I think I mentioned that already before. The processing part of cannabis is the smelliest part I urge you to not approve the

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CommentAnna CarrilloProposed · by introduction17:01

Carp Valley already has a great deal of processing, which as Ana just noted is the smelliest phase of operations with 21 operators with approved permits. The 10 operators that are currently processing are causing a tremendous nuisance already to those of us that live here, school kids and visitors. An additional four other processing facilities are awaiting review and approval. So in total there are 25 processing facilities existing or in pipeline in Carpentria Valley alone, in addition to very dense cultivation activities Gutting the cap would add significant acreage for cultivation or additional processing past our 186-acre limit, a situation where we already have intense concentration and density issues. This is pouring salt in the wound.

The county has not been able to enforce even the meager controls in place to protect residents, and by passing this you would open the door to making a bad situation much worse. I do not believe that the cap should be altered in any way, including this backdoor attempt to circumvent it in any part of the county. I would also urge the board to be more transparent with the public going forward trying to slide in a change to the cap by exempting processing without mention of the cap is not sufficiently direct and Chapter 50 is not an appropriate vehicle for land use changes.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role18:23

Thank you very much.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role18:26

We will now go to Lillian Clary and then we will go to Santa Maria for Dave Cross. Lillian? And Lillian, we have unmuted you on our end if you can please unmute on your end and provide your comments. Great,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed18:53

hopefully this is coming through at this point. I'm having some connectivity problems. First of all, I'd like to thank Supervisor Williams for pulling this item from the consent agenda. The amendments proposed do not take into account what I am going to politely deem unintended consequences although to my mind the expected consequences are not unintended In any case, concerns raised by many County residents require further public discussion.

What I see here is a rush to adopt amendments that make a travesty of the promised cap and open the door to unlimited processing operations throughout the county. There is no valid reason to do this. You are going back on your promises to residents and implementing changes that only the cannabis industry supports. And strangely enough Only the cannabis industry was allowed to participate in development of the amendments.

I know you're all familiar with concerns raised by others. One additional issue out there for discussion and that is what mechanisms have been designed for the collection of taxes from these processing only operations given a lack of input from the public, I'm hoping this time around the trip sure tax collector's office has been involved Thank you very much.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role20:19

We will now go to Santa Maria for Dave Cross, to be followed by Joe Goldberg who is our final speaker. Dave?

PresenterDave CrossLittle East Green Garden which is a cannabis project between Santa Maria and GuaProposedself-stated20:27

Good morning everyone I'm Dave Cross. I'm here representing Little East Green Garden which is a cannabis project between Santa Maria and Guadalupe. They've been in the planning process for over three years they've never stopped their continuing to do that We've been trying to get their sunset date for cannabis operations extended into December. Recently, the CEO's office reached out to us and told us that once this item gets approved, their project would be included on the list for October 31st sunset date.

And I asked for confirmation and got that. Now this is a good step forward for them. It's a big boost for the operation. For the owners and especially for the workers and their family that rely on that income. Unfortunately, yesterday we received a follow up email from the CEO's office that said basically they made a mistake this project would not be included.

Now, this low use green garden project has been on quite a roller coaster from the start. But what this demonstrates to me is at face value, and even to those familiar with This project should be included in that October sunset date. So what I'm asking is that the board provide direction to include Lily's Green Garden on the list of projects with an October 31st sunset date, thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role21:58

Thank you

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role22:01

and we will remain in Santa Maria for Joe Goldberg who is our final speaker, Joe?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed22:15

Good morning. My name is, as you said, Joe Goldberg and I own Lily's Green Garden. This whole legal noncompliance category was, I believe created so that folks like us could get their land use permits or licenses and grow their business. And we have been attempting this for over three years. We have spent thousands of thousands of dollars Trying to get this done.

And we have even met last year as you know, the planning department kept putting different planners in and we'd have to start from zero and go back and then new hoops to jump through. And we've had meetings at Supervisor Lavinino's office last year October November with the planning department who told us we're going to work with you folks so you should have your permits by April here we are in March And we're no closer than we were last year in October.

Then, we were at the November board meeting when we were told that these projects would be looked case by case for the sunset date. I got a call last month that said sunset dates set in stone kick rocks basically you're out June 30th you're done and it makes me feel that why are we being targeted? We do nothing wrong. We pay taxes, we employ a lot of people. We're good citizens and I just feel like this is unacceptable. This is wrong. We're being treated unfairly where this is unjust and it's just plain wrong what you're doing. I've worked for over 45 years in my agriculture career And now everything that I've worked for is on the brink of being lost and flushed. And you folks just act like you don't care, it just is what it is.

It's not your life, it's my life, and it's my family's life, and it's workers' lives. And this is unfair. The county says in your logo one county, one future. Where's our future? Decades we've been here. And now you're ready to throw us out like yesterday's newspaper. So what you're doing is wrong, you need to work with us and you need to fulfill the promises that you gave us and the words that you spoke of looking at these projects on a case by case basis to extend them.

We have been trying and trying to get this done. And we're still at the same place we were basically years ago. And it's not our fault. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role25:09

And that concludes public comment on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role25:11

Thank you so this comes back to the board are there any comments that board members would like to make on this item? Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed25:20

Well I feel like having both the farmers and some of the residents both speak illustrates how difficult it is for us to strike the right balance on this issue, what is What is a erosion of the cap to some is shutting down their business and their livelihood to others. So I think it would just be important for people to understand that if our intention was to circumvent the cap, we surely would circumvent it by more than 10 acres.

Seven in the coast and three in the north. The intention of this change is to improve taxation gathering both by making it easier to tell whether people are being straight to us, they have processing on site that simplifies the whole matter tremendously In a way that is easier to verify. So this isn't a boon for enforcement if we have processing on site. Secondly, it is also simply to prevent operations driving this all over the county which really doesn't serve any point but to reduce the public benefit for the taxpayers of Santa Barbara County.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role26:57

And no other comments. I would like to say, I call for a separate vote on this. I would be more in favor of this if our CUP that we asked P&D to work on were in place but it isn't so these can be approved with the land use permit they don't have to be connected to existing cultivation It does require best available control technology, but gives the grower a choice and that includes vapor phase which is not in my view really the most effective. And we already know from bitter experience that it's very difficult to identify where the odor is coming from.

So for that reason I will once again vote no on this. Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed27:45

Yeah, thank you chair Hartman and you know that was one of the concerns that I had as well. And a frustration that I've shared with other board members that it's taken awhile to get this LUP to a CUP in the inland to back to the board. I met with planning staff this week and I've been assured that they're going to bring it sooner than the fall time frame so hopefully that would Give an opportunity for some relief or concern for those in the community who think that Processing permits would be moving through the system quickly And I think we've all seen that nothing moves through the system quickly, and I think we're gonna have the benefit of the CUP Permit for processing in inland if it gets approved by the board moving forward so That's something I've been advocating from my office with planning staff behind the scenes, and I'm going to continue to do that.

And hopefully that gives us as board members the tools to address some of these real concerns in neighborhood compatibility issues that exist out there. So I'm going to go ahead and move forward with this because I feel confident that planning is getting back on track on getting that to us sooner than later.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role28:55

I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed28:56

just want to add my voice as well. I think that Chair Hartman and Supervisor Nielsen really summarized the nuance of this issue right now why there is a little bit of tension between different views on the board. but that everybody's trying to get to the same place. It's just going to take a little bit of time to get these two processes aligned, but I'm voting in support of this because I believe we can have it both ways. We can eliminate the barrier that is in place that keeps processing from happening in a technologically sophisticated way that doesn't have impacts on the neighborhood and aligns these processes as they actually evolve and come in front of the planning department to ensure that neighborhoods are protected from additional odor.

So I see this as a win-win, I know not everybody does but I think You know the experience we've had with the timing of all these things is that it does take time and that if we don't start with this ordinance today to open the door to processing, we won't get there. But I don't think we're going to find ourselves with a rush of applications that you know take the jump ahead of the process that we have for the conditional use permit For processing facilities, I think these things are going to line up. It just happens to be that we need to do this today to get it going for those other things to line up and work together.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role30:26

Supervisor Lavanino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8630:28

Oh, I was just gonna would you care to do this on a separate vote right now or after? Okay, I will move staff recommendations for item A4.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role30:39

Would you call the vote, please? Madam Clerk.

Roll-call vote Passed 4–1 move staff recommendations for item A4. Would you call the vote, please? Madam Clerk.
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Supervisor Lavenino. Aye. Supervisor Williams. Aye Supervisor Hart. Aye Supervisor Nelson. Aye And Chair Hartman. No
UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role30:49

Motion passes 4 to 1

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role30:51

and A8 is our next item

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role31:01

Chair Hartman and members of the board, administrative item number eight is from the General Services Department. It is to consider recommendations regarding the Santa Barbara Main Jail renovation project award professional service agreement PSA for architectural design programming project number 20041 and this is in the second district.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role31:21

And Supervisor Williams you pulled this item?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed31:24

Yeah, I don't want to beat this dead horse too many times. I just think that remodeling the main jail is an unending strategy. It's a money pit strategy and I just want a separate vote on these items.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role31:44

Okay. Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed31:47

Well if there's no additional discussion I would move 8-8.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role31:51

Okay. And could I get a second?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed31:54

Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role31:55

Okay. And once again, would you call the vote?

Roll-call vote Passed 3–1 move 8-8. Okay. And could I get a second? Second. Okay. And once again, would you call the vote?
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Supervisor Lavinino? Aye. Supervisor Williams? No. Supervisor Hart? Aye Supervisor Nelson? Aye Chair Hartman? Aye
UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role32:06

Motion passes four to one

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role32:08

and item A15 would you read that into the record Madam Clerk

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role32:15

Chair Hartman and members of the board, administrative item number 15 is from the Public Works Department. It is to consider recommendations regarding the recordation of a restrictive covenant on a 31-acre portion of the Barron Ranch and this is in the 3rd District.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role32:31

And this was pulled by the public if I remember?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role32:34

Yes, Chair Hartman and members of the board we have three requests to speak from the public on this item. And if you are a member of the public and you have requested to speak on this item, now is the time to log in. We will begin on Zoom with Doug Kern followed by Mark Wilkinson. Doug?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed32:59

Hello Chair Hartman and Supervisors can you hear me? Very good, thank you. Broome Ranch is a very special place on the Gaviota Coast and GCC has been strongly involved With many community organizations and members in the Barone Ranch master planning process. We've just received last Friday, the restrictive government and we'd like to have a bit more time to review this 87 page We've had one working day.

We'd like to study it so we can see how that will be integrated with the larger Barone Ranch planning process. Options in the future that we might all like to see. So just need a bit of time to look at this and provide reasonable comments back to you, thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role34:09

Thank you Mr Kern.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role34:12

And we will now go to Mark Wilkinson and if Phil McKenna is watching if you can please log in and provide your comments you will be next mark. And Mark, we have unmuted you on our end if you can please unmute on your end to provide your comments.

PresenterMark Wilkinson I'mthe Santa Barbara County Trails Council a non-profit organization established ovProposedself-stated34:44

Good morning Madam Chair and fellow supervisors my name is Mark Wilkinson I'm the Executive Director of the Santa Barbara County Trails Council a non-profit organization established over 50 years ago to protect We are committed to building and maintaining public trail access, build and maintain safe and sustainable trails, and promote public engagement in land stewardship and trail use for all types of outdoor recreation.

For more than a decade we have worked with Public Works and County Parks to establish new trails at Barone Ranch. In addition to building and maintaining trails, we have supported Public Works habitat protection work by partially funding the pedestrian bridge over Providing do not enter signs identifying the boundaries of the habitat restoration area, providing interpretive signs about the endangered red legged frog and other animals living at Barone Ranch.

In 2019 we initiated a community backed one acre habitat restoration project along the entryway to Barone Ranch as a result in the fall of 2021 over 400 native plants were well established however The Alisale fire wiped out half of the native plants. So we will water and nurture the new plants that volunteers added last month for the next two years. We support the concept of protecting sensitive habitat at Barone Ranch through a restrictive covenant. However, we believe the habitat protection and recreation at Barone Ranch are inextricably linked.

Therefore it is premature to now decide on the boundaries and the nature of the restrictive Instead, a balanced approach would be to consider habitat protection and future recreation plans in their entirety. This would permit your board to consider the entire picture and not address management of Barone Ranch in a piecemeal fashion. We ask that the administrative item identified as A-15 for today's meeting regarding the Barone Ranch Restricted Covenant be rescheduled for a future date to allow your board to consider this item concurrently with recommendations that emerged from the countywide Recreation Master Plan for potential recreation development at Barone Ranch.

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role37:06

And that concludes public comment on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role37:10

Is Mr. McLaughlin or Ms. Wells available?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed37:13

Mr. McLaughlin is on Zoom.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role37:16

Before he starts, I would just like to say that I read the language of the restrictive covenant and particularly that on reserved rights. And trails are called out with other roads, paths, telephone lines that they can be maintained and replaced and repaired for ranch agricultural and recreational purposes. So I think the language is good but what I am hearing from people is that The actual policies and procedures for maintaining trails and roads, there seems to be a difference of opinion between Public Works and some of the non-profit and perhaps even parks. It would be valuable I think to work out what the policies are. We do maintain trails to Forest Service Thank you very much.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed38:30

Yes, good morning Madam Chair and board members. Thank you and thank you for the conversation yesterday to supervisor on that as as you mentioned existing facilities within this restricted covenant can still function and they can still be maintained. The restricted covenant that's before your board today predates the work that we're doing now on the master plan. The master plan started in 2019 The restricted covenant work started in 2008 with the Tejigas reconfiguration project, and it was also included in our project description. The restricted covenant that your board's being asked to consider this morning is contained in four of our permits for the Tejigas reconfiguration project. It was for State fishing game at the time it was for the regional water quality control board.

It's for US Fish and Wildlife, federal agency and the Army Corps of Engineers. Madam Chair we can certainly work on standards if you will for the trails and work with parks on that but the department sees really no benefit to delaying approval The restricted covenant today, because your board's approval will really have no impacts on the discussions we've been having with GCC about recreation because repairing corridors cannot be used for recreation. So I think we need to also keep in mind when we sat down with the federal regulators the Army Corps in particular. They wanted 50 plus acres put into a restricted covenant. Through negotiation, we were able to get them down to 31 and that's what your board is considering today. So that's the main channel plus the tributaries that come into that main channel.

Mr.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role40:15

McAulpin, is this time sensitive?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed40:22

Madam Chair, I mean it's your board's discretion certainly if you want to give GCC a week to read it. That would be fine but it was a commitment that the county made in 2008 to the federal government as well as the state as part of our reconfiguration project at the so

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role40:41

Well, in my view and I'm not sure I'd like to hear what my colleagues on the board think but you have to use the hook you have. And I think this offers an opportunity to resolve what is kind of an ongoing headache. And if we could develop procedures by which we could maintain trails to the highest standards in a way that protects habitat as well as making less maintenance work over time on the roads and trails That would be the ideal situation. So I would like to make a motion to that effect, that we delay this matter until we can develop policies for trail maintenance that protects both habitat and trails.

Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed41:28

Well, I very much support a delay. I just try to understand the difference between what the director just mentioned of giving them a week or two versus waiting until we have all these policies in place. What would be the consequence of doing so? I definitely think it's reasonable to ask Some time for them to look it over and understand our discretion in the actual agreement But I'm not I'm not sure that we I want to understand if we have enough time to wait for all these other policies to be developed

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role42:15

Well, it's not many policies. It's a single policy on how we maintain trails and while I don't want to get into the details of how this works, the two can work very well together. It so happens that the best way to design trails is with sheet flow which is the best way to support the creek there But there seems to be disagreement between departments and between the nonprofits, and this is the opportunity to get it straightened out once and for all. So I'd like to grab that opportunity if I could. Supervisor Hart?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed42:52

Yeah, I agree that we just give a little bit more time. We can have an agreement that everybody supports, and that's the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed42:58

best outcome.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role42:59

Supervisor Nelson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed43:00

Yeah, I don't quite understand it at this point and so I'm gonna think I'm gonna figure it out here today on the dais I'm happy to see this be continued so I can better understand the issue

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role43:09

Okay So County, I'm just so I end supervisor Lovino and County Council if you could explain what we need to do a date earth

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8643:20

yeah, I I'm not interested in pushing it off and You know, forever. You say it's one policy the problem is for us to do one policy could be six months and it didn't sound like Scott thought that was a good idea so for me I mean I'm fine with a couple of weeks we have another meeting on the 15th here in Santa Barbara but I wouldn't be able to support moving out

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role43:46

Well, I would be willing to delay this until the 15th. But I would like to encourage Parks Public Works and my office and the nonprofits to work this out we can do it there's agreement on principle it's just how to apply that Supervisor Williams,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed44:08

I think that's a great idea. So you want to make a motion on that?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8644:13

Just just quick quick second on that too. So is this just applying to this particular trail are you talking about trails countywide that would all be

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role44:21

This is Barone Ranch.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8644:24

I know but I mean this policy that you're talking about would only apply to Barone and

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role44:28

The policy at least of Park Service is to maintain according to national U.S. Forest Service standards, so that's in place. What it means in the context of Barone Ranch is unclear.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed44:43

Chair Hartman if I may, I think we can continue this item until March 15th so there's a date We will work with the departments and the non-profits, and we'll work with Mr. McAulpin so we all get a clearer idea on what the time frames are. When we come back I don't know if we will have a policy ready for you. I doubt that we will but we can give you an update at that time.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role45:03

I would be delighted with that.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed45:07

Move continuance to March 15th. Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role45:11

All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes so that does bring us to the balance of our agenda with a continuance of A16 to March 8th may I have a motion to that effect?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed45:28

So moved. Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role45:30

All in favor say aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed45:31

Aye.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role45:33

Any opposed? Motion passes. So that brings us now to our resolution to be presented, Administrative Item Number 25 and this is I think a real high point in our agenda today. Madam Clerk would you read that into the record?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role45:52

Chair Hartman and members of the Board, Administrative Item Number 25 is sponsored by Supervisor Hartman and Supervisor Hart. It is to adopt a resolution recognizing Santa Barbara County as the 2021 Wine Region of the Year. And joining us today receiving this resolution we have Allison Laslett, CEO of the Santa Barbara Vintners Association. Katie Rogers, President of the Santa Barbara Vintners Board and Jessica Gasca, President of the Santa Barbara Vintners Foundation and if you'd like to join us at the podium I'll go ahead and read the resolution into the record Whereas every year Wine Enthusiast Magazine, the most influential voice in wine and drinks journalism honors individuals and companies that make outstanding global contributions to the wine and alcohol beverage industry.

And whereas in the fall of 2021 Santa Barbara County was named internationally wine region of the year placing above other significant winemaking regions who were also nominated in countries such as South Africa France and New Zealand. And whereas Santa Barbara's wine country is one of the world's most stunning wine regions, famous for its expansive views from the steep traverse mountains to the craggy bluffs and scenic beaches. And whereas Santa Barbara County is home to seven federally recognized American Viticultural Areas or AVAs which are delimited grape growing regions with specific geographic or climate features that distinguish it from the surrounding regions and affect how grapes are grown.

Whereas within our region, the Santa Rita Hills and Santa Maria Valley experience cool foggy mornings and regular afternoon winds allowing cool climate grapes such as Pinot Noir and Chardonnay to thrive. Warmer weather varieties like Cabernet Sauvignon and Sauvignon Blanc succeed in the Happy Canyon of Santa Barbara and Los Olivos District to the east In between, Ballard Canyon fosters grapes typically of the Rhone Valley as well as in the Goldilocks-Rhone zone of Alisos Canyon.

Santa Ynez Valley encompasses such areas as Los Alamos Valley and Foxing Canyon which can grow a wide array of grapes from Albarino to Zinfandel. And whereas it is not only our county's remarkable terrier that makes our region special but our industry professionals from winemakers who create art in a bottle to agriculture workers who nurture the grapes, to tasting room professionals who promote a culture of pride and enthusiasm for our wines. And whereas Santa Barbara County has one of the highest proportions of women winemakers per region in California and many wineries offering opportunities for vineyard and farm workers through shareholder bottlings and dedicated scholarships. And whereas in addition to its variety Santa Barbara County ranks high in sustainability as it is home to some of the nation's first organic and biodynamic vineyards.

Now therefore, be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors of Santa Barbara County does hereby honor the significant contributions and prestige that vintners and wine professionals have bestowed upon our region and their well-earned global recognition as Wine Region of the Year passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role49:15

We're going to show a film. I just had a couple remarks before you started up. This is a huge, huge deal. We are the best winemaking region in the world. It calls to mind for me what was called The Judgment of Paris back in the spring of 1976 when the whole wine world was upended after mostly French wine professionals conducted a blind taste test between California and French wines And California wines were deemed superior, catapulting our wines to world-class status.

And then there was the film Sideways that captured the allure and pleasure of imbibing very poetically describing You know, it led to bad things for Merlot but it certainly put the Santa Ynez Valley in lots of people's minds. And now we have this amazing recognition of the variety of wines in Santa Barbara County. It's really a stellar achievement and it has so many spillover benefits for all of us As a long-term resident of the Santa Ynez Valley and now a very frequent visitor to Lompoc, I've seen what really good wines do.

It brings great hotels, which brings for the county TOT. It brings really good restaurants and development of a food culture that values locally produced foods and recipes. And it brings a greater attention to cultural activities that are place-based art history in theater that showcase the local area and a greater appreciation for the local environment Part of the terroir and a desire for hiking and biking opportunities to experience it more intimately.

And also, more social offerings and activities that people can enjoy the camaraderie. So all of this elevates the quality of life for residents. This award is the result of decades of hard work by our local Vintners, and we really appreciate and benefit from what you have accomplished. It's extraordinary! Supervisor Hart, would you like to say something now or after the film?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed51:28

I'll just really quickly because you said that so beautifully. I don't think there's really anything I can add other than it really is an extraordinary achievement to be recognized in this way and there are so many people in our county who have been toiling for a really long time. You're going back 40 years ago, you thought this would work. To the people today, the farm workers who pick the grapes, the folks who pour the wine, the people who create the wine, all the spillover industries, the folks who are representing the Vintners Association here today. This is just an amazing achievement by a lot of people working diligently and with passion and creativity for a long time. It's just an extraordinary moment to celebrate so thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role52:08

And now the film.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed52:12

My beginning in wine growing came from my interest in being in nature. And in so doing, I discovered an anomaly here, this amazing transverse valley which opens to the west of the ocean and so the ocean winds coming off the sea moderate the climate.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed52:36

We have the ability in 35 miles to grow what the entire country of France has the ability to grow, and that is just wild. Santa Barbara is an incredible region for grape growing. We get the constant marine influence, the wind and the fog. We have California sunshine but we also have the cooling down effects of that Pacific Ocean and that's pretty magical.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed53:00

That is what is kind of the special sauce of this place. It's that constant cool onshore wind that causes the temperature swings, makes for a very special growing region. Winemaking is the performance of the song.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed53:14

That takes technical performance. Grape growing is writing the song. We're putting songs in a bottle so that when somebody else opens it at just the right night with just the right people and just the right place they have something to dance to. Yeah I like our sound I guess.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed53:31

There's not a single variety that defines Santa Barbara County. It may have started with Pinot Noir, but we are doing some incredible Bordeaux out here as well as Rhone varieties, Mbedre, Grenache, Saraz. It's across the board.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed53:47

The two single most important things are soil and climate, how you irrigate what you do with your nutrient program all that is super important too. That is the terroir part of it.

CommentScott SchellProposedself-stated53:58

This place is a remarkable example

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed54:02

of terroir. Terroir means sense of place if I grew up two blocks over or city over, I'd be totally different person that's what happens here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed54:13

I think all us early winemakers were We weren't just around waiting for the grapes to be delivered. We were wine growers, not just winemakers where we grow grapes up in Fox and Canyon. It's all dry farm meaning it gets nothing but what Mother Nature allows us makes her great, great wine.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed54:33

We have a diversity of regions which makes this district so exciting. The only way I could really have access to something that was spectacular is to plant it myself

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed54:46

The climate that we're blessed with allows for a longer growing season and allows for physiological ripeness of our grapes without excessive sugars. And so, we get wines that are more balanced with lower alcohols and bright acidity.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed54:59

Wine is really made by the time it gets to the winery. The fruit is already destined on its path from there to kind of be its guide.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed55:08

We are so hands-on makes it a very special place

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed55:12

There's a whole team behind every winery and there's a whole group of individuals who make this happen.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed55:18

It's really amazing to finally be getting that recognition, so many people here have been working so hard for so many decades it's really striking how collaborative the Santa Barbara wine community is.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed55:28

We don't stop we keep pushing and pushing and pushing and we push each other it evokes an emotion out of you it's supposed to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed55:35

Without a farmer, you'd be naked, sober and hungry. It's where it all starts. We get to put this hillside in a bottle. I'm doing hard work every single day. Everybody is farming their pocket growing world-class wines. That's why you can't put a big stamp and say it's cab country, it's Chardonnay country, it's Pinot Country. You can't do it! In the next 50 hundred years, this is the spot.

I truly believe that Santa Barbara County is going to be the place that American wine culture was born.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role56:14

Allison, Katie, Jessica would you like to come to the podium and tell us what you're thinking about this?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed56:20

Thank you. Thank you so much for having us We had to make that video to receive the award for Region of the Year and I loved having an excuse to make it because it took me all over the county. And I'm now in my fifth year at the Santa Barbara County Vintners, and working on behalf of them, I realized how much I've learned about the region. So when the producer would ask for a certain light or a specific vineyard shot or gorgeous estate, I knew where to go. It turned out I knew every nook and cranny of this county in a way I didn't really realize and it was all a creation of Vintner or of the land itself where we were going.

And our wine region is truly a labor of love. I'm so impressed with the work Santa Barbara County Vintners have put in over the years. It's been more than 50 years of effort and well over that for some families, planting and growing grapes and making wines that have finally seen us to the Region of the Year Award by Wine Enthusiast magazine. For so long, we wanted to hang our hat on one varietal. But the truth is we really can grow anything in Santa Barbara County and grow it well.

So I think it took years for everyone, ourselves included, to find an appropriate definition for a region. We finally settled on west of France, just north of LA. It was the only way to truly capture the breadth of our wines and the region. So I keep telling the Vintners we've finally arrived and they keep telling me we've been here for a while. The credit goes to the intrepid Vintners of Santa Barbara County who I always say succeed despite the challenges.

The droughts and fires and fickle nature of grapes The international recognition from wine enthusiasts has honored us deeply, and we are so proud to showcase this award. I'm also proud to be honored by you. Your resolution is tangible recognition of the Vintners' dedication to their craft and the incredible work of absolutely everyone it takes to support the industry.

No region gets here alone, and we all know it. I am often standing before you advocating for the vendors or challenging a decision you've made, or trying to explain a request we have. But at the end of the day, we all live and work in a region that is uniquely equipped to produce world-class wines worthy of international recognition. I'm proud of all of us for striving to preserve and promote and protect our region, and for acknowledging the work that that takes all around.

So Chair Hartman and Supervisor Hart, thank you so much for sponsoring this resolution. To everyone, thank you for this honor, and thank you for seeing us.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role59:32

And Katie Rogers.

PresenterKatie Rogersmarketing for Jackson Family Wines as well as the current president of the boardProposedself-stated59:34

Hello, I'm Katie Rogers. I am the director of marketing for Jackson Family Wines as well as the current president of the board for the Santa Barbara Vitners Association. Wine grows in beautiful places. Santa Barbara County is obviously a beautiful place so we're super lucky for that but from the pioneers that started planting vineyards here in the 60s The international recognition following their intention and their passion of growing grapes, following their passion to build a business for their family. To then have a region that is recognized on a global scale which is what this award is, is outstanding. And then have it be memorialized by you with this truly is just a moment in time and a moment in our history that we won't soon forget.

I've spent my entire career working in the Santa Barbara County wine industry. Just this last week, I spoke at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, my alma mater to a bunch of students, half-MPJs but very excited to come into the industry and when they talked to me about it, they didn't know what their path was I asked him, well what does your family do? And some said real estate. Some said doctors. Some said farmers.

For them to realize all of the different career opportunities within the industry itself from real estate, from lab technicians, obviously from farmers, to sales, to marketing, to public relations, to sustainable practices, to sustainable science it really goes on and on. And to know that not just the dream of being a vintner, which is still very well and alive in Santa Barbara County. I have my peers here as well that moved here to start making 200 cases of wine and now have their own thriving business and were able to leave their first job to really follow their passion and provide not only for their family but our surrounding community through philanthropy as well.

When people ask me to describe Santa Barbara County, I say it's a community of people that work hard, are dedicated, are committed to sustainability and quality but are also people that will always pick up the phone and come help you. And when you're on the roads in Santa Maria, it's good to get help sometimes. We are not just colleagues we are truly neighbors and family.

This recognition again with the county and the supervisors along with the international recognition from Wine Enthusiast Magazine as region of the year It's an opportunity for us to introduce ourselves to consumers that we might not have met, and offered to enjoy and join our family. So with that, as Allison said, we've been here, we've been waiting for you, and we cannot wait to welcome more people to this beautiful community. So thank you. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:02:28

And Jessica Gaskin?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:02:34

Good morning Board of Supervisors. My name is Jessica Gasca, one of Santa Barbara's Latina woman winemakers and winery owners. My winery is called Story of Soil. More importantly today I currently stand as the president of the Santa Barbara Vintners Foundation. I know you might think wait I just met the president of the Santa Barbara Vintners to which I would say you did.

You met the president of our Santa Barbara Vinterners Association and I am the president in the Santa Barbara Vinterners Foundation The Santa Barbara Vintners Foundation is our 501c3 nonprofit, our charitable arm under which the Santa Barbara Vintners conduct its philanthropic work. Our mission is grounded in giving. Listen it's okay if you didn't realize there were two entities working here in Santa Barbara because the truth is whether we are working on getting the name out there regarding a world-class award winning wine region or we are raising monies for our community The truth is that we all proudly represent the Vintners of Santa Barbara County.

I won't take up too much of your time, but I just thought that you should know the Santa Barbara Vintners Foundation has raised millions of dollars to give back to our community. Most recently, we launched our inaugural Holiday Hope program wherein the Vinterns raise almost $30,000 to give back to vineyard families in need during the holiday season. While we are incredibly proud of our biggest efforts historically raising large contributions for direct relief, we are also excited to have added a new community partner Community Health Centers of the Central Coast or CHC.

Through this new relationship and collaboration our efforts are focused on raising monies to help bring health care to our vineyard workers. If you've been up to date on your community reading, you may have heard that in 2021 the Vintners Foundation worked tirelessly during the pandemic working closely with CHC to bring mobile medical units into our vineyards. I am proud to say that last year through the Santa Barbara Vintners Foundation we vaccinated almost 1,000 vineyard workers.

And the work won't stop there. This Sunday, the Santa Barbara Vintners Foundation is teaming up with 22 incredible women winemakers and 18 incredible women chefs as well as other women in our industry to raise money going directly to the Women's Health Program at community health centers. The Santa Barbara Vintners Foundation Mission of Ground and Giving is our guide, and using that as a parameter to gift giving has also extended outwards to Allan Hancock College, People Helping People, and the Food Bank of Santa Barbara, to name a few.

As you can see, the Vintners are incredibly invested in our community. We believe in Santa Barbara as much as you do, and we are here to do the work. On behalf of the Santa Barbara Vintners Foundation, we thank you for the recognition and we thank you for working with us to continue to grow the place we all want to thrive in and the place we all call home. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:05:39

Thank you. And we have two public speakers would you like to go? Two public speakers.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:05:52

Chair Hartman and members of the board, we have two requests to speak on general public comment and not on the resolution.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:05:57

Supervisor Lavanino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.861:05:59

Thank you very much. Well congratulations and obviously well deserved there's nothing like going to I mean like if you think about what the wine industry has done for us revitalizing downtown Old Town Orchid, revitalizing Los Alamos just a great place to go on the weekend But I also want to remind all of us about the farm workers who make it happen also that we don't forget about them. So when I pass those cars coming back on 101 from, you know, the San Ynez Valley most of them headed back to the Santa Maria area.

Without them, we really don't have an industry to celebrate. So next time we open a magnificent bottle of Santa Barbara County wine which for me will be probably around 630 tonight in my backyard let's toast them who are also an irreplaceable cog in the whole industry wheel so congratulations

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:07:03

All right, well thank you for giving us this opportunity to celebrate your success with you. Turning now to general

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:07:10

public comment. Madam Clerk. Chair Hartman and members of the board yes we have two requests to speak on general public comment and we will begin on Zoom with Thomas Becker to be followed by Dr Amy Smith. Thomas? Hi

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed1:07:28

can you hear me?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:07:30

Yes we can please proceed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed1:07:32

Thank you I'd like to speak about the events in Ukraine and some of the support for Ukraine, especially the event that took place yesterday in the courthouse Santa Barbara. You know, I think the Ukrainian people have a right to defend themselves, especially from someone like Putin, okay? But you know what, sending them well wishes and prayers isn't gonna kill Russians They have to kill Russians to win their freedom back.

Now, the only way you're going to kill Russians is to send them weapons and right now I'm trying to organize to see if it's lawful for U.S. citizens to send AR-15s and AK-47s in ammunition to Ukraine we have to make sure it's lawful it can be done but You know, I think they have a right to defend themselves especially against those pricks. Those Russians, they are absolutely horrible people. They're rapists and so it's all well and fine to have your rallies in the courthouse and rallies in the sunken gardens but you need to send weapons to kill the Russians. It's the only way that those Ukrainians are going to prevail Now, here's the one thing. I'm online with Ukrainian people. I am not with their government. I am online with them directly and trying to organize, see if it is lawful to send shipments of rifles and ammunition directly to Ukraine, to give them to the Ukrainian people directly, to get them training in those weapons so they can kill Russians.

Okay? Now personally, politically, One way or the other, but I just think that the Ukrainians have a right to defend themselves. But there's one thing I'm telling the Ukrainians online I'm talking to don't give those rifles back people because an armed people are free people and I tell them in the United States if it wasn't for the fact that we had three that we have 300 million firearms and very high powered rifles.

We wouldn't have any freedom And I point out the government in California itself of how if the people didn't have weapons, their rights would evaporate certainly in this state. I pointed out to the idea that in 92 during the riots, the Rodney King riots, that Tom Bradley administration was ginning up hatred toward the Korean community blaming the Koreans for the problems in the black community. Koreans weren't having any of it Koreans took up rifles and defended themselves, and the Korean community was generally left alone during the Rodney King riots. And I point that out to my Ukrainian friends how rifles will save your life and protect your freedoms. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:10:31

Thank you Mr. Becker. Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:10:35

Well, I think Mr. Becker is perhaps pointing towards me since I was involved in the organizing of yesterday's rally. The rally yesterday and Saturday acknowledged various ways. First of all it acknowledged that Putin's invasion is not good for the Russian people or the Ukrainian people and that it is actually very inspiring to see hundreds of thousands of Russians protesting the invasion as well You know, the cases where Russian troops have been captured.

You know, surprisingly they bring up the fact, hey I just knew about this invasion three hours before we were told to cross the border. We thought it was a military exercise and And so, both Russians and Ukrainians are being victimized. But Mr. Becker brings up an important point that you can't resist an invasion without weapons. There's much simpler ways and much more legal ways than shipping arms.

However there is two different ways that you can support that effort. One is the Come Back Alive Foundation and Mr. Becker can find a link On it on my Facebook as well as links to humanitarian charities that have been vetted by a former State Department employee So if I hope that meets his desire

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:12:06

Thank you Madam clerk and our second and final speaker is dr. Amy Smith Amy

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 23Proposed1:12:17

Can you hear me now Yes, yes. Okay good morning I'm just briefly on the Ukraine situation I didn't understand if the supervisor could speak on that since it's not on the agenda But I am very troubled about a blanket disparagement of the Russian people made in the chambers today by the prior speaker getting no comment at all from Doss Williams. And that is exactly the problem when we live in a society awash in propaganda that was legalized to be targeted toward the US population by the Obama administration And the causes of this war, I don't see them being discussed at all. I don't understand why the coup in 2014 isn't being discussed that the US had a huge role in or the expansion of NATO that puts pressure on Russia that is no longer a needed alliance in the post-Cold War but has been used to promote various agendas That actually endanger world and considering we're talking about nuclear armed opponents, that's very disturbing and terrifying.

And it's not just one people, one terrible people as the speaker spoke which is just a revolting simplification and makes me afraid of my fellow community members who are so poorly educated and lacking in awareness of their own government's role in these conflicts. But I would like to go back to COVID because I think this war is in part to change the subject from COVID, that we're not supposed to notice that despite the failure of the vaccine to protect people and it was never promised to stop transmission in the first place. That the vaccine mandates persist and I really would like to call on the supervisors to reverse the county employee vaccine mandate end it And end the state of emergency, the local state of emergency as has been done in San Luis Obispo County correctly.

And I really think we need to have well, we have also a discriminatory mask policy that you can unmask if you're vaccinated so our stores and businesses supposed to interrogate people as to their private medical status? Are you going Get on board with the digital ID system that starts out with vaccine data and might contain everything, including your bank account so that if you go to the wrong protest like in Canada they can freeze your bank account in the future and control the population. In very frightening ways that are very unconstitutional. This is what you guys have been a part of, we need to have a huge accounting and we need to have hearings about the impact of all of these COVID policies. We need to end the states of emergency and get back to constitutional living in the United States of America.

And I hope you will take your responsibility. You're only one part in a huge operation. I understand that but you do have your role to play and you can be setting a good example for other county leaders throughout our state. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you and that concludes general

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:15:18

public comment

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:15:19

all right turning to departmental item number one would you read that into the record madam clerk?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:15:27

Chair Hartman and members of the board, departmental item number one is from the Community Services Department and the General Services Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Santa Barbara Clean Energy SBCE service offerings for municipal electric accounts.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:15:44

Thank you, Miss Watkins. You're going to make the presentation today?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed1:15:48

Yes, I am. Thank you. Good morning, Chair Hartman, members of the board. We are here today to get The board's direction regarding the service offerings available from Santa Barbara Clean Energy, which is the City of Santa Barbara's community choice energy program. And this is specifically for 10 county municipal electric accounts located within the city of Santa Barbara.

So for those listening who might not be as familiar with community choice energy, it enables local governments to purchase or generate electricity on behalf of their communities while the incumbent utility in this case Southern California Edison continues to deliver energy maintain electric grid and bill customers. In 2019, the county as well as the majority of local cities opted to join an existing community choice energy provider Central Coast Community Energy.

However, the city of Santa Barbara elected not to join Central Coast Community Energy and instead formed their own community choice energy program. So just a reminder of the few of the benefits associated with community choice energy Customers in Santa Barbara County now have a choice in terms of the electricity provider that they opt to go with. Local elected officials and county staff serve on the boards of these organizations, and allow the community to provide input to them on the direction of these organizations.

CCEs also support our climate goals by procuring a higher content of renewable energy It's worth noting that both Central Coast Community Energy as well as Santa Barbara Clean Energy have both set a goal of providing 100% clean and renewable energy by 2030. And that's 10 years ahead of the state's goal. These programs also provide new funding for local energy initiatives, for example customers of Central Coast Community Energy and Santa Barbara County have taken advantage of over a million dollars in incentives that offset the cost of things like purchasing electric vehicles or building all-electric new housing.

For Santa Barbara Clean Energy to be able to offer these types of programs and develop clean energy storage projects, it's essential that large energy users in their territory stay opted into the 100% green service offering So Santa Barbara Clean Energy will be enrolling commercial as well as local government customers into their service this coming March. All customers will be defaulted into option one, which is the 100% green rate. So if the board takes no action, the 10 municipal electric accounts that we have will stay opted in to that rate.

The board could also choose to opt down to green start. However, that option in comparison with the energy mix of 100% green only offers 50% carbon-free whereas 100% green offers a hundred percent carbon free energy. So keeping those municipal electric accounts with the default 100% green option does come with a bit of a price premium. It's roughly a penny per kilowatt hour more than the Green Start option.

The Green Start option is essentially at rate parity with the Southern California Edison rates. Those increased costs on an annual basis are around $41,000 but again Staying opted in to the 100% green option allows Santa Barbara Clean Energy to develop local energy programs that support things like electrification and local climate goals. It would also allow them to develop local clean energy projects that will increase local resiliency and reliability, which was a goal of the strategic energy plan that your board adopted.

So addressing some of the increased costs, in talking with General Services it sounds like for this current fiscal year electricity and utility costs are actually below what was anticipated. And then going forward for this new fiscal year in 22-23 they have budgeted an 8% increase in utility costs and I think that will cover most of the increase associated with staying with 100% green option.

So in closing, because of the benefits mentioned in staying with the 100% green options staff recommends that the board adopt option one to take no action and keep County Municipal Electric Accounts with Santa Barbara Clean Energy's default service offering, which is 100% green. Staff is available to answer questions and we also have A'Lelia Parenteau with the City of Santa Barbara who can answer questions as well.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:21:20

All right. Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:21:22

Yes thank you Chair Hartman. Ashley so currently our electrical rates including these are Absorbed into the internal service funds. Is that right? So there's a cost allocation model that we have at the county Yes, so that charges out to the user and so therefore This would be paid for across both general fund and non-general fund departments that are users of This program right

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed1:21:51

correct. The costs would be spread across Departments that pay into those ten municipal electric accounts And so looking at those specific departments, I think the breakout is about 80% of the costs go towards general fund related costs and about 20 go to cost for square footage that is paid for things like external grants.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:22:21

Okay, and then get back to that. Right now this is already in our budget for this year so we wouldn't need any budget adjustments for this year?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed1:22:28

So it is not in our budget for this year however General Services has indicated that where we are below our projected costs for utility utility costs so it should not have an effect for this fiscal year and then for the coming fiscal year they have you know conveyed to departments that there's a could be an 8% increase That they've projected for utility costs and so.

Discussed the need to build that into departmental budgets, and so this you know staying with 100% clean energy option would raise on average our costs around 6.9%, so that 8% cost would roughly cover that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:23:13

Besides our counties existing goals with the clean energy What not does this tie into our energy and climate action plan in any way? Is this one of those things that we actually get some kind of credit for potentially.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed1:23:25

So because these accounts are located within the city of Santa Barbara and our Climate Action Plan is specific to the unincorporated area, we wouldn't necessarily get credit. But we do have other goals in our ECAP specific to county operations that encourage the use of efficient buildings setting an example for the community by adopting renewable and energy-efficient building practices.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:23:54

Okay thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:23:57

Supervisor Williams.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:24:00

Well, does the city CCA have the same time of use rates as 3CE? I mean just so people understand that if you live in 3CE territory which is any of the unincorporated County and most of the cities in the county except for Lompoc and Santa Barbara You can use cleaner energy and cheaper energy anytime after 9 p.m., and any time before 4 p. m.. So the peak dirty energy, also expensive energy is four to nine p. M. Is that the same or is it more akin to what SCE's time of use rates are?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed1:24:46

Let me invite A'Lelia Parenteau up to the podium to answer that question, but I did want to mention that they do have increased rates for net energy metering customers. So that's actually a benefit and A'Lelia can go into a little bit more detail.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 25Proposed1:25:04

Thank you, Supervisor Williams. So we do follow the Edison time of use rate structure which actually is the same. It's also the peak pricing is 4 p.m. to 9 p. m., so that's when it's most expensive, much cheaper during 12 to four and overnight. We do have as Miss Watkins shared, we have an increased net surplus compensation rate if you add solar to your home, we pay double what Edison pays for excess production really incentivizing that local generation.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:25:34

Well, that's good. And it's good that you're up because I want to of course bring up a stickier issue. I support the option A which is to do the higher rate to enable the city to do both the programs and the local generation required to meet their goals but But I really think that it is our job as a large customer to push that those goals are met and are met in an ambitious way.

Believe me, the energy staff at the city are top quality, Alelia being a shining example of that. But there has historically been an unwillingness from The the top At the city and by the top I don't mean the council. The council seems to want it could be happen as quickly as possible But the top-level staff Historically have not supported ambitious energy moves and And this additional premium, the purpose of that is to help ambitious energy moves. And so I requested Valalia and Rebecca Bjork, the new city manager to put in writing what that goal was. And you know, I appreciate that she did so in a letter to Mona.

You know, the punchline is we look forward to accelerating these efforts through SBCE and plan to build at least 5 megawatts of local generation and storage capacity in the next decade. And a successful community choice energy program is the cornerstone of our ability to accomplish that work. I just want to make sure that people understand that the level of trust is very low on my part, because a couple very concrete reasons.

Number one, the carbon content of the city's energy mix is now a lot higher than it was before we did 10, now 20 years of hard work trying to decarbonize the energy grid. It is a lot more carbon intensive because of the restart of the desal facility which some people could view as sort of like an accident of history but But I while on the council made it clear that if we were going to restart the D cell anytime in the future, we should start preparing now and building energy. So we're now sort of 14 years later talking about finally doing what should be done.

And so five megawatts of local generation is a strong goal. Five megawatts of batteries, when you have amazingly large facilities And batteries are as cheap as they are is actually kind of a weak goal. You know, battery megawatt just takes about 1200 square feet of space maybe 1400 if you're not doing it well and I just think our role as a leader and a partner is to demand that this stuff happen And so we'd like to see those projects, we'd like to see them actually drawn up and worked on.

The city does have the space particularly now that they can use spaces outside of the city boundaries including your reservoir for such purposes or your airport for such purposes And we really, I guess speaking for myself, I really encourage you as staff to push for what the council seems to want which is this stuff to happen as quickly as possible and that requires being more adventurous with either bonding or funding.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:30:16

That was a statement that doesn't necessarily require an answer, unless you choose to.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 25Proposed1:30:23

I actually would like to address it. Thank you so much Supervisor Williams. I'm really glad that you brought that up because I think it is important given that this program is designed by the community really for the community and accountable to the community that our customers including the county being the second largest customer of SBCE Does hold us accountable. I really appreciate the frankness with which you brought those concerns to us and really look forward to addressing them with you Yes, the letter hopefully is under promising and will over deliver but we do want to be cognizant especially in the last two years of supply chain issues We've experienced design delays, et cetera. So we don't want to overpromise but I will tell you that the city already has in design 25% of that goal so we'll be in the ground much sooner than that decade goal.

So we are already putting our mouth where our money is and we're really excited to build that generation. When council set their 100% renewable electricity goal by 2030 The intent was reliability and resilience, right? That was the main priority and building that local generation is the only way that we get there. So we are with you 100%. I have talked to the leadership they are with you 100% and the council is with you and so we're excited to build forward

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:31:38

Great answer

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:31:39

Yeah, couldn't get better. So I don't see any other lights on and I think we have one. Oh Supervisor Hart sorry

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:31:48

yeah just appreciate Miss Parenteau's answer and I think one of the strengths of the two different approaches to the city's process and plan and the county's more regional effort is that there is an opportunity for more creativity and more diversity of approach. And I think that that is a real strength, you know we're going to learn from each other as to how best to meet the aggressive climate goals that we have and I think that kind of pushing each other to be the best we possibly can be is really part of the key part of the success of this strategy so thanks for being here in person to answer Supervisor Williams questions and I'm glad we're working in partnership

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:32:26

And so now public comment. Madam Clerk?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:32:29

Chair Hartman and members of the board, we have one request to speak on this item and we are going to Zoom for Katie Davis.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 26Proposed1:32:44

Katie? Hey sorry I just had to unmute myself. Hi this is Katie Davis chair of the Sierra Club Los Padres chapter which covers Santa Barbara and Ventura counties And I just wanted to support sticking with this 100% green default and carbon free electricity. And salute Santa Barbara for choosing this default and being part of this trend over 30 cities, municipalities in California have said a default of 100% carbon free or 100% renewable energy. It's a real trend in Southern California particularly in CPA territory so within Ventura County really taking a lead in most of its cities having a default That covers millions of people, and it's been a win across the political spectrum. We were seeing even Republican-leaning cities doing this. I was at the Thousand Oaks City Council meeting which is a Republican-leaning city and watching their climate action plan update.

And they have some very outspoken members and there were some controversial things but this was not one of them. They were really proud of the fact that They've reduced greenhouse gas emissions from the electricity sector by 80% with this plan. So it shows what we can do, we're seeing real projects, local energy, local jobs, better resilience as a result of these investments that are really paying dividends on that investment. So I think it's an excellent move. It will help us electrify our transportation and buildings and meet our carbon reduction goals Their programs will help the county meet its goal as well, and we'll have cleaner air and greater economic stability too in the face of oil and gas prices rising and changing. So I think all this is great and I really appreciate the conversation.

Thanks so much.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:34:38

Thank you Miss Davis. And that concludes public comment on this item back to the board any further comments or emotion Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:34:45

Well just because it's germane Employer folks to take advantage of the programs that the city is offering and that the county is offering through 3CE particularly on electric vehicles and electric charging. The now is the time given the cost of gas and the crisis invasion of Ukraine will probably mean Gas prices aren't going to be going down anytime real soon.

It is more important and more affordable than ever in comparison with gas cars, to get onto electric. Really the cost as, and I can tell you just as an early adopter of both plug-in hybrids and all electrics. The cost may be on the front end but the incentives are significant, The incentives that we offer locally and the state offers in the federal tax credit definitely exceeds $5,000 in totality depending on your income level.

That matters because the state incentive basically based somewhat on I think either income level or the cost of the car. But you are saving over time with less repair bills, less fuel costs et cetera. And now is the time to do it and we'll help you do it so look up our incentives at 3CE or Santa Barbara Clean Energy because that's the way we can meet these goals together and make sure that the ambitious goals that we've set become reality.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:36:28

Supervisor Nelson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:36:30

Yes, thank you chair Harmon You know this one was kind of went back and forth on it, you know balancing my responsibilities a fiduciary I'm on this board to make sure we're paying tax or spending taxpayer dollars well Along with some of these other goals that we have as a community you know if Paying more just sent those funds off to other parts of the country for credits or whatnot to bring down our our Our portfolio number, I don't think I'd be supportive of that. I really want to make sure that we're using those dollars locally but what I'm hearing about Santa Barbara Clean Energy is these dollars will be reinvested back into our community for more resiliency storage the local grid and so that to me it's not really about you know paying more it's about reinvesting in our communities so therefore I can be supportive of this

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:37:22

So I need a motion and a second

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:37:25

So moved, option A.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:37:29

Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:37:32

Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:37:33

All right all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes. Chair Hartman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:37:39

I'm sorry that's option 1A not just option A. Sorry.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:37:43

Chair Hartman just for people to know we are bringing our own energy climate action plan I believe in April if not sooner April 5th is our date and I just want to say that we do appreciate working with the city and the new City Manager Rebecca Bjork has been collaborative and cooperative, and we really do appreciate working with her and her whole staff. So thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:38:03

Terrific. Let me just consult with Madam Clerk for just a moment. Do we need a break or do you think we should continue going?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:38:10

Chair Hartman and members of the board, I believe we can get through departmental item number two and then perhaps take a brief breakout. All

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:38:15

right so would you read that into the record please?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:38:18

Chair Hartman and members of the board, departmental item number two is from the Behavioral Wellness Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a behavioral health community assessment update.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:38:32

Welcome Ms. Navarro and Ms. Grimacy

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 27Proposed1:38:57

Sorry that good morning supervisors and county staff Tony Navarro director of behavioral wellness here to present the next item to you. This is a project that was well underway when I started my tenure here in December, but I just want to start the presentation by thanking the board for your Approval of American Rescue Plan Act funds to behavioral wellness, to conduct a comprehensive community assessment as we look to see what the needs of our community are and the impact of COVID. And have the community identify what their needs will be over the next three years as we together come to our next normal in the county. To present on an update of the community assessment survey and the next steps of the prioritized community services that came out of that plan, that will be implemented countywide for the next three years is Suzanne Grimesee, BWELL's Public Information Officer and Chief Strategy and Community Engagement Chief.

Thank you Tony.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 28Proposed1:40:03

And thank you for the opportunity to speak. We know that globally and nationally, the COVID-19 pandemic has had an impact and has affected people's mental health, and it's created unique challenges for people currently struggling with mental health or substance use disorders. However, it's with huge thanks to our Board of Supervisors for supporting the ARPA funding for this survey process. With huge thanks to the tremendous stakeholder group that has been involved. With very special thanks to over 5,000 of our community members who took their time to give their input and complete the survey.

That we've been able to get a better idea of what the unique local impact is within our community. So I want to start with how I'd like to use this time. I want to give a little bit of a background review on the ARPA funding goals, provide you with an update on the final survey results but also calling attention that you should have the detailed narrative survey results in your packet.

Like to give our recommendation highlights and next steps. So the ARPA goals to address the increased mental health needs due to the pandemic impact, including the vulnerability of our targeted populations. Objectives guide anyone who needs mental health support to know where to find assistance and how to access support, to teach how to recognize signs of mental illness and risks of self-harm To expand mental health services through community partnerships and grants. And to enhance rapid response and services to meet the immediate needs of individuals in our community.

So, the survey process was led by the Department of Behavioral Wellness and the Community Wellness Team along with a very broad stakeholder group that provided input throughout the process. including input on key populations and targeted outreach strategies. The survey was developed with the invaluable assistance of Jill Sharkey and Erica Felix from UCSB to assure efficacy of the survey The survey also included questions from the 2019 Cottage Population Health Survey, which again was just incredible because we had the opportunity to look at how our population responded just before the pandemic and then allow for those same questions to see how people are responding now.

It was through the amazing partnerships of Cottage Hospital and UCSB that we were able to minimize the expense of the survey itself, to allow our focus on spending to go to direct services. Also have to give thanks to a few of our local private foundations who provided the necessary finances for incentives as we did our field-based outreach for our targeted populations where that became a critical way of helping to engage people in completing the survey. So it was a true, true collaboration.

The survey itself took about 10 to 15 minutes to complete. It included questions that covered demographics, ACEs, so Adverse Childhood Experiences, mental health impacts including assessing traumatic stress and other forms of stress both before and after the pandemic. And it had questions related to forms of resiliency and coping. Really quite fascinating to see the results.

This slide has a lot of very small words. I don't expect you to be able to read them all, but it was important that we share just how many people were involved in the stakeholder process throughout our community to help plan and distribute this survey throughout our community. So starting to look at the results, as you can see here over 4,731 online surveys were completed. An additional 435 surveys were completed in paper form through the field outreach that took place.

You can see from the graphs that 88% of the surveys were completed in English, 12% in Spanish. But for the paper surveys alone where our promotorists were just integral being out in the community 89% were completed in Spanish, 9% in Mixteco and 2 in English. It's important to note that survey participants were also able to leave their contact information on the survey if they wanted a call back regarding resources or if they were interested in being a part of the planning process.

We had hundreds of participants that listed their contact information for a callback regarding resources, and I have to say that process of calling back was humbling and I'm so grateful I could be a part of it. The data that we learned through the survey tells us the what, but what we were missing from looking at the paper and the numbers was the why. And that's where those calls back to talk to real life people to hear their experiences as well as the focus groups we led became critical.

The mental health impact, so this combines both our Spanish and English speaking participants. And I'll show you the breakdown in the next slide. But what it shows us is the majority of people reported their mental health was worse due to the pandemic. So 61% of almost 5,000 participants said now as compared to prior to the pandemic my mental health is worse.

Here you'll see it broken down between our Spanish and our English speaking participants, which is fascinating. And we will be doing a much deeper dive to better understand the why of what you see in the orange circle. So English speaking participants 65% said their mental health was worse. But in our Spanish speaking participants 67% said no impact. Only 25% said it was worse. So our understanding why is a really critical piece. And we're looking forward to that analysis.

Physical health, this was fascinating.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:46:32

Can I just make a note? This is interesting considering all trends statewide indicate that the disproportionate effect on Latino populations of the pandemic in terms of actual health outcomes and deaths That life expectancy for Latinos dropped at least two years during the pandemic. And so I think that understanding why people who are dying in much higher numbers are reporting no change compared to the rest of the population would be really important to understand.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 28Proposed1:47:19

Look at a few more of the slides, a little more depth to that question. But I appreciate you saying that. Thank you Next slide is physical health. So this is fascinating, and as you know many people in the world are much more comfortable with the language and sharing their physical health than describing mental health symptoms. So what we saw, the highest symptoms that bothered people were feeling tired and having trouble sleeping uniquely at the time of the survey as compared to prior to the pandemic. So we saw 27% overall reported feeling tired and having low energy Almost a quarter of participants reported having trouble sleeping now as compared to before the pandemic. And then you see a high level of reporting on symptoms of pain.

Next, again broken down by Spanish and English participants was an anxiety measurement. So questions that help to assess people's level of anxiety and not only help to assess people experiencing symptoms of anxiety but of those how many actually met the clinical threshold to be diagnosed with an anxiety disorder? Again at the time of the survey. And what we saw within our English-speaking participants, 32% of those expressing symptoms of anxiety met the clinical threshold for an anxiety disorder and 18% of our Spanish speaking participants.

The same type of questions to assess for depression. Of those that reported symptoms of depression in the English speaking participants, 22%, almost a quarter of the participants met the threshold for a diagnosis of a depressive disorder. 12% of the Spanish speaking population or participants. This is by far, I found this personally the most fascinating of all of our slides. So this is help-seeking behavior and Supervisor Williams, this may give some of our whys. By no means does it answer all of our questions but here you see orange represents Spanish participants, blue English.

Handled problems on their own. English participants almost 40% said I handle my problems on my own Spanish-speaking participants, almost 60%—that doesn't mean there aren't any problems. It just means they handle them on their own—didn't know where to turn for help. A little over 20% of our English participants said they wouldn't know where to go to get help.

Over 45% of our Spanish-speaking participants said they wouldn't know where to go to get help. And the next starts to look at stigma, which is huge when we talk about people seeking support for mental health. Too embarrassed to seek help. 18% of our English speaking, almost 40% of the Spanish speaking participants. The last one, again it's the stigma, didn't want friends or family to know that they needed help.

Over 20% of our English speaking participants over a third of our Spanish speaking. So again, this is the what more so than the why but really interesting data for us to dig deeper into. This next slide on the survey itself was primarily quantitatively answered questions but there were questions that allowed for qualitative answers and then of course we also had all the phone calls and did the focus groups but wanted to share some of the qualitative data You see for English speaking participants, kind of the top list of all the 5,000 people that listed their qualitative responses. The greatest impact on their well-being. Work, isolation, daily activities, sense of control, job stress, finances, fatigue, feeling worthless, stress and anxiety, worry about getting sick, current mental health symptoms are worse, depression, loneliness.

The top themes for our Spanish-speaking participants and their qualitative responses, anxiety, family, finances, contracting COVID, isolation, stress, fear, loss of work. I want to take just a minute to go back to all of the phone calls that we made in English and in Spanish. I had a chance to be a part of the English, others helped with the Spanish. To help people link to resources and referrals. People were calling some about themselves mostly calling about loved ones looking for ways to link to resources. Interestingly, of literally almost 300 calls only two met the threshold that they needed services from Santa Barbara County Behavioral Wellness. So their levels of need were individualized at a lower level of need.

We found the greatest challenge in helping people to find open providers for seniors and for children. Things were simply impacted. Once again, the promotorists were an incredible, incredible help in helping us with our focus groups. We led focus groups countywide and targeted populations geographically as well as targeted populations with people English, Spanish, and Mixteco.

But before I...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:52:54

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 28Proposed1:52:54

you. Before I speak to the outcome of our focus groups, I want to talk a little bit about how we might think of our Santa Barbara County system. Not even a system of care within one organization but our community system. Behavioral wellness might be thought of at the very top tier of our overall system, but it's only one part of how we as a community meet the behavioral health needs, mental health substance use within our community.

One way to think of it is like this in the image of a triangle or a pyramid. At the base of the triangle, those are our universal community education and supports. Our prevention and our early intervention activities and supports. The next tier up is slightly narrower. And the general community supports are more focused in their design and type of service. And then just above that they become even more focused, that might be where you see a lot of the behavioral wellness type of services and the top is for those with the most complex situations of seriousness in mental health or substance use disorder.

Whoops, didn't mean to do that yet. It's important in any community to have a balanced triangle and to have balanced resources at each level throughout that triangle and that's why it's so important for us to work together in partnerships. Prevention and early intervention activities at the lower levels are essential for helping to keep the higher levels of the overall system balanced.

When it's not balanced, certain levels of this triangle begin to bulge due to the demand for those resources. There's inadequate services and adequate resources then paired with those that are trying to get the services. And in this case a system will not work to meet the individualized needs of those in the community. The community survey feedback supports the development efforts really within the bottom foundation. What people are asking for, what people are saying they need falls under that universal bandwidth and I'll explain a little more about that.

I want to give one example, though, before I dive into more things the community spoke to that falls under that base level that is just pairing so beautifully right now with where we are as a community. The Santa Barbara County Department of Behavioral Wellness has been able to offer thousands of Headspace apps or applications to our community. And I want to mention that it's free of cost, so I'm not trying to do any kind of an infomercial that would cost money. But we are partnering up with the state, the California Mental Health Services Authority, to be able to issue these apps. Now Headspace is amazing. We share in Santa Barbara County with over 70 million other people using this app in 190 different countries.

So this is something that's researched and known to be effective. Headspace is right now known as a leader in mindfulness and behavioral wellness. It takes minutes, it's like a five-minute meditation app and people see huge results from that. So we are working on developing a platform page on our website where it will be easy to click and get it but in the meantime I'll make sure you all have the link if you wish to download yourself or share with others but we're very lucky to have that.

Okay, themes of the focus groups. The focus groups again we targeted certain populations and geographic areas and yet the themes were consistent throughout which was fun to see and here's what they were. Social connection opportunities. People asked for easy ways to interact with other people even just group activities. Opportunities to share stories with other people that got it or experienced it like they did Accessibility to resources, easy and quick access to mental health services and support.

Education and stigma reduction, education on symptoms, coping strategies, and how to access services in a way that reduces stigma. And you might think back to that slide where we were looking at people's help-seeking behavior. And a variety of accessible services and supports. People said they'd like to have a range, not just therapy and more counselors but groups, activities, faith-based supports and community members that were trained to talk to people that knew about resources so people that they could casually comfortably that they trust talked to it didn't have to be a therapist but they could help to direct them And again, these core areas were universal across all of our focus groups.

So what were the ideas generated through that? So through the collective input and the creativity of the stakeholder group—all the names that you saw up there on that slide—the ideas were developed that were aimed to meet the community needs that were learned through the survey process. It's well known, and I know for a fact that each of you know this because I've worked aside each of you in disasters in the past. But it's well known that social connection and social cohesion with disaster recovery is critical for community and individual resiliency. The ability for community members not only to access support when they need it but to be able to be of a support to another is critical on helping people to make it through disasters.

It's also helpful for recovery and resiliency building. So what I love about this is we're talking about recovery from the pandemic, but being able to set up a system that will be there for us for our next disaster five years from now is a pretty exciting thing. So of the ideas, these were the ideas the group came up with. There's only so much funding available. So highlighted in gray is what we have put forward in the RFP which was issued in the start of February and proposals come in on March 7th.

So the highlighted areas are social connection opportunities. So more of those things, groups, activities, ways for people to connect together. training on mental health, that type of thing. The other great area is to broadly train community gatekeepers. You could call, you could name that another name but to broadly train trusted people within the community whether it's on psychological first aid, mental health first aid, it could be another type of a model but training key industries, training community members, training those key points of intersection so that they have a skill set to talk to people, but also to help to get them connected to resources.

So those are the two things that we have an RFP currently issued out on. Okay. Oh, I want to mention also another fun thing that came out of this. So what did not come up in the survey itself, community members didn't say we have a shortage of behavioral health therapists in the community. That was not what was said. It's clearly evident especially when we were trying to connect people and it's very evident among our community organizational providers So, our community organizational providers involved said is there a way even though it's not going in the RFP and that kind of thing could we gather together? Could we have someone from the outside facilitate a strategic session that would focus on evolving behavioral health needs in our county as a result of the pandemic.

And so we did that, and it was a really fun process. So we have a next step. Our next step is to now hone down to strategy. So if there was more funding what would we specifically be asking for? What's a new way to think about how we have enough resources? It's not just hiring enough people anymore. We're in a whole new world now. And we do have some of our private foundations that have been involved as a part of that process. And they say, We'd love to see what's needed and we'd love to be a part of helping. So that's another side thing taking place in relation to this.

Okay next steps. We have the proposals for the RFPs will be awarded March 7th, and then of course go through the public review process and so forth with services beginning in June. But a lot of things have actually already begun as a byproduct which is kind of fun. The stakeholder partnership group that was involved, many wish to stay on and be a part of the steering committee. So to stay connected to how these services are taking place, are they working? What else can we do? I told you about the group looking at evolving behavioral health issues so this will all continue on in the future. At some point in a few years, we would do another survey and see where our community is so we can see did these services help And there's also a great interest in publishing these results, but that's after doing a much deeper dive.

So our researchers that have been helping are part of that process. And I think that is it. So thank you for your time.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:02:43

Well this is a lot to think about Supervisor Williams

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:02:48

Well, I'm especially impressed that the sort of training and systematizing how to have people in the front end be able to refer people to whatever help they can get being in the RFP directly answers something that the community has been asking for. And I really appreciate the department's responsiveness on including that in the RFP. Thank

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:03:18

you. Supervisor Hart. To

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:03:20

summarize, it's the no wrong door philosophy

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:03:23

that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:03:23

we have asked the department to embrace.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:03:26

Yes. Supervisor Hart?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed2:03:29

Well I just want to thank Ms. Grimacy for her tremendous work during the pandemic and before that she really has become the county's crisis manager for behavioral wellness and I know that Director Navarro really appreciates the team that she has inherited and the great work that they're doing. This survey is really impressive, getting that kind of response is extraordinary and then having such very specific concrete action steps that you can move forward on bringing everybody together. I'd really love to see that slide five that lists all the community organizations that you're working directly with because it leverages The county resources so much more effectively through partnerships with other organizations and community members. And like Supervisor Williams, I really think that this idea of using trusted messengers in professional services that people access daily is a great way to get this information to people who need it when they are really open to it from a different nontraditional way.

So it's really a creative solution. Thanks.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:04:32

Thank you. Again, kudos on the presentation I know it started off with COVID but it really is a discussion about what our system of care and that I think is hugely important. You know being in this job over the years that I've worked for the county was an eye opening when I found out that Yeah, we have a behavioral wellness department. That's not necessarily Not everybody can be a client of our system And so there's a lot of families out there that might have private insurance Which is actually most of the families in Santa Barbara County that might not have the same type of resources that we can at the county and it creates this real Disconnect there where there's people that need services because you know mental health does not discriminate based on socioeconomic level by any means and Making sure that we do have this full system of care, and then we are supporting private providers And making sure that we have as many of the Therapists out there.

There's a huge need for children and that I hear that all the time Making sure that we have therapists in the community that can address those needs, not just a school psychologist but other resources at the schools can direct out to. And I think that the more that we're doing to partner with our churches and our schools because those are our you know those that are touching up the community. You know Super Chair Hartman talks about You know, building community and making sure that people have places to go and how those relationships. And I think that this informs us not just for behavioral wellness but even our planning as we go through you know when we look at community and zoning and all those types of pieces that were making sure we're not just looking at that through a keyhole but we're looking at the whole system And keeping this in mind, and I was just listening to a podcast on the way down this morning.

It was talking about the number one cause of homelessness is loss of connection. And so you know there's also huge preventative measure for homelessness. And you know kudos to you guys all. I think it's great that we're having this community conversation. The other thing that I think that was mentioned here that I think we're seeing a lot of progress on is the destigmatization of mental health. You know we're seeing professional athletes You know regular people have these conversations and not being condemned for it We still have ways to go but it seems like it's a new day For addressing these important needs. Thank you

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:06:58

Supervisor Labonino,

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.862:07:00

thank you madam chair And and I also want to thank you I think this was a excellent report and anytime we go out in the community when we ask questions about how we're doing or how they're doing You know, it's eye-opening. It brings up different conversations. I thought what was really interesting in this was when I was looking through it, I really like the fact that you broke out the English and Spanish responses because I think it again shines a light on how we have to be culturally sensitive and culturally aware that people are even might be experiencing the same thing as their neighbor But they're viewing it in a different manner.

The fact that Spanish speakers were kind of downplaying almost the impact it had on them when we know that, you know, cost people jobs. It really put a strain on people. They were downplaying it and saying I'll take care of it myself. You know, I'll deal with it with my family and I'll take care of it myself. So I think the idea of going to trusted community members, sometimes they're not going to be watching a Board of Supervisors hearing. They're not gonna know about our webpages and how the county communicates usually so they're gonna get their information from a trusted neighbor. They're gonna get it from a minister or somebody at their church. And so we've gotta get information to people where they absorb it.

I think this is a really great move in the right direction, so thank you.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:08:34

I have so many thoughts going through my head, I'm trying to get them organized. The first is that the triangle really shows we're reaching towards a collaborative impact model. How do we take all the different actors who are engaged in this and even draw on new ones, hairdressers and barbers where people talk a lot, A network created around mental health and wellness. So I really think that that is absolutely stupendous, and it gives us something that I think our CEO has been driving us towards very subtly over the years, and that is getting performance measures for mental health quality of life in our county But government can't do it all.

We depend on this larger network, but what government can do and what you've done in this process is catalyze and help to frame a structure that others can participate in And I think in the modern day that that is really a very significant role for government and particularly county government because we've got that broader reach. I did have a couple of questions just in my limited experience It's adolescent girls that I see may be disproportionately affected by social media and criticism and anxiety, but serious depression in that group.

Do you tease that out in any way to get beyond my impressions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 28Proposed2:10:15

We have the ability to. So in the data that we collected, we have everything from gender and age and language and region and all of that.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:10:25

So you'll be doing more analysis and helping us to understand that? And I take it that's also with seniors and children more generally. How do we begin to focus because I serve on the Adult and Aging Network and the senior tsunami is coming and how are we going Our planning for aging, and so this is really getting ready for that is really critical. The other thing I was just curious about The social connection opportunities. Could you elaborate a little bit?

I'm just wondering, one thing that I heard that's interesting is that for many of us it's not intense intimate close relationships. Our mental health often depends on more casual relationships. I'd like to start by saying thank you so much. And how significant that is and how COVID really went to that because we didn't, those were the things that we didn't have in that time. So I just wondered if you could comment on that because there's, and let me just add one point.

There's a, if that is the case then there's a lot in land use planning, there's a lot in how we design communities. Mexico and Zocalo's, where people every afternoon sit at a table and have something to drink and watch. And everybody comes out from people who are disabled and children and old. It just creates something special that I admire in Mexican culture. So with that, I'll be quiet.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 28Proposed2:12:17

No, thank you. You raised the key thing that came out of the survey. Yes, there were some that asked for groups on education on symptoms of mental illness. But by far English-speaking, Spanish-speaking, Mexico countywide people asked for opportunities to connect and the examples of some of the examples that they gave with everything from just group activities more groups within their churches they would say physical activity groups Places where you could just get together and casually talk, but not just talk. Like talk with people that really got it and understood, and they were sharing the same experience. People are just yearning for opportunities to connect.

And that's when the feedback came in that with people in the community, even if it's not a group, to be able to connect with someone that knows what I'm talking about or maybe even understands it because they're in the same place and they've shared it. So people are yearning for connection, social connection. And the beautiful thing about this is the more we understand it as a community, the more we build the structure and the supports within the community. Those aren't just for the pandemic.

Those will be there in the years to come. And those are the things that will carry us through and sustain our resiliency and the things that we know are to come.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:13:49

We'll get you by the mic because we want to have recorded this for posterity.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 27Proposed2:13:54

Thank you. I just wanted to add that in the past month, I've had the pleasure of meeting with a lot of leadership in our local community-based organizations and hearing about all the work that they're doing Aside from their contracts with behavioral wellness, but just in their own organizations. And I'm really looking forward to bringing back to you those awards that we give for the RFP and the community service ideas that come in. There's a lot of innovation and ingenuity and wisdom out there in our CBOs and our community partners so I really look forward to seeing what they bring forward in order to move forward With what the community is asking for. I think there's a lot of great momentum and ideas out there, so thank you again for the funding.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:14:35

What's the time frame for the RFP? When will we be hearing from you again? On this topic,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 28Proposed2:14:41

I'm not sure the answer to that question when you'll be hearing from us again though looking forward to that opportunity. But I can tell you that the proposals are due on March 7th which is around the corner and then there's of course the period of let's see I've got it right here responses to questions that come in and public comment. Let's say the Yeah, the contract start date in June services will be beginning so we're going to be knowing and the next. We're going to be able to hear all the wonderful ideas in the next week and then we should know what our services are and how they'll be going into place just from this funding very soon to come and we look forward to coming back and sharing that with you

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:15:22

terrific thank you madam clerk do we have any public comment

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:15:27

chair Hartman and members of the board? We have no request to speak on this item

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:15:29

alright it's back to the board may I have a motion and a second Supervisor Nielsen.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:15:35

I move that we receive and file the presentation so items A through C.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:15:42

Thank you, Supervisor Hart. Second. All in favor please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Unanimous. Turning and thank you very much. I think we'll Madam Clerk just keep going departmental item

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:15:58

number three chair Hartman members of the board if we could take a brief break.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:16:02

Oh, you do want to break? All right. Thank you We need a break for our translator and our clerk sort of keeps in touch there. So thank you Good morning again. After a short break, we're reconvening the March 1st 2022 meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors and we're turning to departmental item number three. Madam Clerk, would you read that into the record please?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:26:38

Chair Hartman and members of the board, departmental item number three is from the county fire department and the county executive office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding our report on KPMG's operational performance review of the Santa Barbara County Fire Department.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:26:54

CEO Miyasato. Thank you, Chair Hartman so Next slide. So today's presentation is similar to what we've presented to the board in the past KPMG reviewed the fire department Actually last year or maybe starting from before that and during COVID. So there's been some delays because of that And so today we're going to have KPMG who's on zoom present their recommendations and the fire department will present their implementation plan.

Next slide, and so as you know the context of this is this was part of our Renew 22 initiative and KPMG was selected back in 2019. So far nine department reviews have been completed and presented to the board that was done on the first year. In the second year of the contract they have looked at fire behavioral wellness and social services and those will be brought to the board when those are completed and implementation plans are done And we still have more departments lined up for the third year.

The scope, as in previous reports, has been to look at best practices, look where improvements would benefit the department. Again this is not a financial audit but recommendations should assist in savings and efficiencies or better performance. The areas of focus are selected by the CEO's office with the department I'm working with KPMG and all the reviews have relied on our department's cooperation, data availability and interviews with key staff.

Next slide. And as a reminder this is the County Fire Department 247 FTEs and almost $90 million in budget. And with that I'm going to hand it over to KPMG who are online. I think Bill Zisek is going to be presenting with Kiva Thornton.

CommentBill ZizekProposedself-stated2:28:37

Welcome Bill. Thank you, Chair Hart and thank you CEO Miyasato. So again good afternoon or good almost afternoon still morning to Chair Hartman and members of the board. My name is Bill Zizek once again your KPMG engagement leader with me today is Kiva Thornton managing director from our delivery team. And it's pleasure to be with you here today to share these fire department recommendations next slide please.

As CEO Miyasato mentioned, our timeline for this past year has been to review the fire department. We have also finished up the report review with leadership of B-Well and nearing completion in report review going through those discussions with social services leadership and nearing the midpoint of the review with community services And in addition, we'll soon be mobilizing initial steps for a further review of public health which was originally put on hold due to obviously the increasing workloads of the pandemic.

Next slide please. Just a quick reminder on our methodology, we begin every review engaging departmental staff and leadership in interviews and focus groups. We analyze the available data from department programs operations and systems. We look at other county benchmarks and leading practices to help identify themes and opportunities And we hold a midpoint update with department leadership and the CEO team on what those themes and opportunities are to ensure alignment. And then, we share working drafts of the report to be validated, commented on, and ultimately accepted by department leadership and the CEO team. Next slide please.

So as with all our reviews...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:30:41

I'm sorry,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 28Proposed2:30:43

but it actually doesn't. So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:30:46

one second Bill we're having a translation once again you can go ahead bill

CommentBill ZizekProposedself-stated2:30:59

okay thank you So as with all the reviews, we'll begin with our commendations that you see on the screen here. To start, the department should be commended for their significant investments in technology enablement. The department, as your board knows, has outfitted fire apparatus with mobile data computers, MDCs, iPads which allow the department to access CAD data, view maps routes to an incident as well as record incident notes.

And as firefighting in California becomes ever more challenging and unpredictable investing in these technological tools will allow the department to manage these increased workloads more efficiently We also want to commend two innovative strategies regarding serving and safeguarding community. First, we've highlighted the initial progress with respect to data-driven deployment staffing and call triage strategies such as implementing the four person staffing in rural areas with higher travel and response times to better protect community and firefighters as well responding to especially structured fire incidents And secondly, the use of engine companies for inspections to help provide an opportunity for those engine companies to gain familiarity with structures and jurisdiction that they serve as well as be able to engage with community members in a non emergent scenario.

And we finally commend the department on their commitment to effective internal communication and the level of strong morale that we observed in all of our interactions. There was demonstrated commitment to the mission of the department, whether it's responding to medical incidents, fire or large disasters within the county and indeed across the state as in terms of mutual aid and a high degree of professionalism in all of our interactions with leadership and staff.

Next slide, please. The board will recognize this maturity model from our past presentations. The model looks across key elements of departments operations and we've highlighted two here and again the purple box represents where we assess the current maturity of the department and the gold is where we think the department will reach with implementation of our recommendations And so the two elements will highlight for your board today first around optimizing the model of service delivery from a public and community perspective, and of course the related issue of the underlying data reporting and analysis.

So first on service delivery as we commended that there are various initial data driven deployment and staffing processes in place We do see opportunities for growth and expansion of these processes to allow the department to better understand and deploy to the dynamic and changing workloads that they face, whether by season, by station or by time of day. For the related and underlying element of data reporting, again we commendably did observe moderate level of maturity in data analysis and reporting.

However, we also identified that there can be variability in the quality and clarity of data available for analysis in terms of tracking. And oftentimes there can be retrospectives of data after a period of higher low performance, and so we see opportunity and have made recommendations for the department to improve the consistency, the quality, the structure of its ongoing data tracking and analysis efforts This is an opportunity for us as a board to enhance the visibility into operations and performance, whether at executive, divisional or geographic levels. And this includes topics like mutual aid or incorporated city workloads which Kiva will touch on shortly.

Next slide please. Now I'll turn it over to my colleague Kiva Thornton

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 29Proposed2:35:09

As you can see on the slide, there were six key recommendations that resulted from our review. And however for the board today I will focus on the three main recommendations that are highlighted in purple as having potential policy implications for the board. The first being demand driven deployment, as Bill mentioned, the second being performance management and the third financial management.

For data-driven deployment we recommend the expansion of Data driven demand based staffing methods by leveraging geographical and temporal trends in call for service data. The understanding and quantifying of the drivers of demand, and converting these drivers into workload and resources can help the department utilize the right resources in the right place at the right time while improving the overall cost effectiveness and maintaining the appropriate levels of service needed to meet that demand. For performance management, we recommend the strengthening and expansion of performance measures to enable continuous improvement through the regular evaluation of progress towards the established targets.

And for financial management, we recommend the enhancement of tracking workload and cost by service area and the revenue and reimbursements associated with the deployment of the department services To allow for a better understanding of the cost associated with delivering services inside and outside the fire district. Next slide, please. So as Bill previously mentioned, the first recommendation is to enhance the use of demand driven deployment. The Fire Department provides fire medical and emergency services to residents within the fire district, as well as mutual aid to residents outside the district.

The top graphic on your screen illustrates the average department workload in minutes by month for the period covering 2015 to 2019. The bottom graphic illustrates the annual sum of that workload in minutes for the same period. So you'll notice in these graphics that the calls-for-service workload by month of year shows very clear trends in demand, the winter months of January through May have significantly less workload than the summer months of June and October With mutually comprising a large percentage of workload throughout the month of the year.

In the bottom graphic, it's important to note that while emergency medical emergencies make up the majority of the department's calls for service they consume significantly less workload than fire related calls and so medical emergencies consumed approximately 2772% of call volume per year on average however that only equates 24% of workload While fire calls consume 22% of call volume and mutual aid consumes 3% of call volume.

Overall, mutually consumes approximately 51% of workload per year on average for the Fire Department. So our recommendation of data and demand driven deployment. The implementation of that will allow the department to better monitor workload and implement dynamic Resource management and deployment. This would allow for the proactive scheduling of additional staffing for high workload periods to increase capacity to respond to calls for service, and also allow the department to explore the use of fast response vehicles to respond to certain lower acuity medical calls during peak hours to increase the number of fire apparatuses that are available to respond to fire mutual aid and auto aid calls.

Next slide please The second recommendation to highlight is to enhance the use of performance management, a data-driven decision making. In the annual budget, the department lists 13 key performance measures which provide some insight into the extent to which the department is achieving aspects of its strategic performance goals. However, we have recommended the use of additional performance measures which would provide a comprehensive view into performance at each station, battalion and the overall department Operations which would be monitored on a weekly or monthly basis provide real-time insights into operations and performance to drive decision making.

The additional performance measures would allow the department to more robustly measure and drive performance by reviewing key metrics such as average dispatch times, turnout and response times by vehicle station or battalion. The department would be able to track And demonstrate their real needs with verifiable data on workload, personnel and other resources which would support the management of operations and resourcing. The development of budget requests in conjunction with the CEO's office and enable future decision making.

These recommendations would and should be reviewed on a regular basis through these dashboards for example which we are showing on the screen now to aid in the discussion and implementation of the data. It would allow the department have greater ability to evidence the results it's achieving for county residents, measure progress towards established strategic goals, proactively detect and address challenges as they arise, and provide support and coaching to staff as needed.

Next slide please. And the third recommendation for discussion is to expand the financial management practices within the department to allow for a more granular insight into the cost of service delivered. As part of the department review, we reviewed two of the departments funding mechanisms to determine the extent to which revenue and reimbursement processes covered the cost of services delivered by the department.

We first analyzed the property tax revenue generated by tax rate area compared to workload and cost of service delivered to each area by the Department We also analyze the cost of mutual aid workload delivered to areas outside of the fire district, to assess this extent to which reimbursements cover the cost of service provided.

CommentAnna CarrilloProposed · by introduction2:41:29

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 29Proposed2:41:29

both areas of analysis our overall finding and recommendation is for the department to enhance the data tracking and analysis of cost of workload delivered as compared to the funding revenue or reimbursement recovery. The development of a consistent methodology for tracking workload and related costs and conducting the analysis on a recurring, consistent basis can inform department and county leadership as they manage the Department's budget and staffing and contract development in the future.

The enhanced data tracking and analysis would also allow the department to better understand the costs and resources associated with delivering services to the tax rate areas, and cost of delivering mutual aid services to inform future budgetary decisions. Additionally as part of the review there's also an opportunity for the fire department and the sheriff's office to re-examine their cost sharing procedures for the aviation support unit While the ASU should remain a joint structure, there is an opportunity to develop separate budgets and separate maintenance costs by vehicle to increase transparency into budgeting practices and allow fair allocation of cost between the departments.

Just to highlight the other recommendations that we made which can be found in full in our report. We have made recommendations around the enhancement of the consistency and streamlining of the inspection process, workforce development recommendations to better enable recruitment and retention of the workforce on aid and succession planning as well as technology enhancements to develop a plan and associated processes to outline current and future technology needs.

So to summarize The key takeaways from our review are to expand data-driven deployment and approaches across the department, leverage existing data to improve performance monitoring and encourage continuous improvement. And expand processes for tracking the cost of services delivered by the department. We would really like to thank the Fire Chief, his leadership team and all the staff for their cooperation during the review And we really enjoyed working with the department. They have a very strong culture and commitment to the county, and would also like to thank the CEO and her team for their support in the department review process.

I'll now come back to CEO Miyazato. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:44:02

Thank you, Kiva and Bill. If the board has any questions of KPMG, you can ask them now or we can ask the fire chief to present his implementation plan. You can ask questions.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:44:12

Supervisor Williams.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:44:14

So if I'm understanding this correctly, there's a bit of a gap between our expense for mutual aid and our reimbursement in your analysis is other jurisdictions in the state of California? Is that Normal meaning, you know, our other jurisdictions also have that.

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CommentBill ZizekProposedself-stated2:44:42

Yes, Supervisor Williams, Chair Hartman, members of the board That is common. There are certain procedures that the department must follow in cases where mutual aid is reimbursed, such as a declared state or national disaster. is not recovered and it's more of a reciprocal idea that there are times when the county will provide a certain level of support to other jurisdictions, and then there are times when the county will receive. And indeed the department does track some of that on a volume call for service basis and our recommendations also I'm going to say that that should also be looked at from a workload perspective. Again, quantity of calls does not always equal resources consumed, especially in those large incidents that from a mutual aid perspective can be deployed too.

So it is common that if you look at the full cost of resources that are deployed to mutual aid, you're not going to get reimbursement for all that. That's the way the system is set up. From our work with the department we are We understand that they are following what's called the CFAA approach to when it is reimbursable. But again, what's reimbursable is only a narrow It is a very important component of all costs. It's firefighter time plus a multiple to help cover overtime, an additional 50%, let's say. But there are other operating running cost infrastructure costs to maintain your overall state of readiness that aren't reimbursable under that state formula. So it is common but we recommend it as something that should be monitored and understood You know, made visible in discussion in this forum.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:46:41

So I don't see any other questions so Chief Hartwig.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 30Proposed2:46:50

Thank you, Chair Hartman and members of the board. I just wanted to start if I could by recognizing a few of the folks that did the heavy lifting on this. Shawna, assistant department head and CFO for the district kind of led the effort in compiling all the data and information necessary to complete the report from KPMG and the CEO's office that kind grid grinned and bared it while we got everything that we needed to do along with all the other work that we're doing. And of course Rob Heckman, our administrative chief who did quite a bit of work as well. So I'm going to just launch right into it. I'm probably not going to spend a lot of time and really open it up to you all for questions.

As you have those. First of all, in a commitment to do anything better and best, you have to look at yourself. And often when you look at yourself, you're not as honest as when other people look at you. Maybe I'm stating the obvious. And so having somebody come in and look at things that you don't necessarily like to look at or haven't looked at has been painful for us. I have a new appreciation for those that actually go under the knife for exploratory surgery. Because this seemed to be a bit exploratory and surgical in nature. And yet, again we're committed to doing it right and we're committed to doing it better.

So to the extent that I could thank KPMG and Kiva because we've had some very direct conversations over the past few months. I'd like to thank them for taking a fairly different perspective and approach at looking How we run our business. As you know, we've engaged consultants CityGate and others that are more specific to fire and public safety but this was a pretty different approach with that said let me get into our presentation Quite frankly, I think you'll notice a couple things right off the bat. One is that a lot of our weaknesses are our strengths as well and That was interesting to me But it just means that as much as we're doing things right? We can do things better And I think that that was important to note Another thing I think that you'll find here is that we agree with really almost everything, meaning that we haven't prioritized some of the things that they have found but we really didn't see anything that they came up with that we didn't already know about.

Specifically if you look at the first slide 1.1 through 1.3 and those recommendations that Kiva just mentioned, we really believe that the dispatch center and the work that we're doing right now to create the CAD to implement an emergency medical dispatch I'm going to go ahead and get started. Thank you very much. There is a desire to track more closely costs associated with TRA or tax rate area.

We have done that on an as requested and as needed basis for some of the cities that we provide service for, that are part of the district not through contract but are part of the district. But we typically don't track and haven't tracked but see the need in and the value in tracking costs by a tax rate area The recommendation to have better and more transparent cost sharing and tracking with the air support unit we agree with wholeheartedly. We're currently finalizing an MOU with the sheriff that will, I think, The next slide, 2.3 is the forecast for capital planning in conjunction with general services. We're just about ready. I think we finalized the language and an agreement with city gate to build on their recent report that will We'll provide a capital plan for my presentation to you.

That we hope and are planning for that to be done by the end of fiscal year 2023 or this fiscal year, by the end of this fiscal year starting July. And that will then allow us to look at more specifically our buildings and facilities, and then also present some funding options to the CEO and the board. Our inventory management a program right now is archaic To put it nicely. I think it's effective, but it's mostly paper driven and Finding a better system is at the top of our list as well in this next fiscal year Workload and inspections we We think we have some work to do on that and were committed to So we're going to be improving that process as well.

Performance measures, we felt like we were probably doing a pretty good job and as part of this process they interviewed staff so they didn't just come to us to ask how we were doing. They went to the people who are on the front lines and asked how we were doing. And so how we thought we were doing and how they thought we were That just means that we need to do better at making sure that the folks on the floor, the ones that perform the service and those in the office that are at the tip of the spear interacting with the public.

That they are more informed on our performance measures Training new staff to include succession planning and focusing on our resiliency, we believe can be approved upon. That's 5.1, and we're prepared and planning on doing that. We talked about the data collection, and I really do think if there was a common theme in some of the KPMG findings it was our ability to not just collect data but to collect the right data. And we just need to do better and we're committed to doing that.

We are evaluating as it relates to recommendation 6.1, we are evaluating a few different products right now that we think will help us do that That also includes a 6.2 and an information technology plan we have a new IT manager recently, and he is working on a technology plan which I think will address a lot of the concerns that KPMG I'd like to stop there. I do think, I'd like to kind of talk a little bit about your question Supervisor Williams but maybe I'll wait and see if you have any specific thing, any specific question related to your concern on mutual aid and or the difference in reimbursement and expenses.

And that's all I have again thank you very much Chair Hartman.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:55:00

Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:55:01

Well the reason why I ask that question is sort of like if everybody in the whole state has the same gap level, then the system works right? You know. But if some are producing more than others then the system Though logistically is an amazing success. I mean the fact that we are able to have so many different fire departments all over the state and yet when a big fire happens, the logistic power of having all of those work together is an example for the world.

But financially, you know if some are producing more than others then that's obviously a problem so I would love your thoughts on that and if there is something to do with this seasonal variation on our staffing needs, right? I mean that slide seemed to indicate a pretty heavy difference in certain times of the year from others and whether there is some efficiencies that can be gained if we understand that better than we have before.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 30Proposed2:56:20

That's a great question. And quite frankly, it's something that I think we wrestle with is in fire service leadership in the state and that is how to maximize your standing army. Staffing for emergencies in and of itself is not a very efficient I'm going to ask you a couple of questions and then we'll get started. Make the expense that is necessary to have 24 hour, seven day a week staffing.

That readiness, how do we make it more efficient? One of the ways you can make it efficient is to hire it out on the times that you're not busy or hiring it out even when you are busy and calling back. Staff to staff the station that just that just left And that's really what we've done on mutual aid I think if you look specifically at the chart on page 29 where it talks about The cost of mutual aid, it's in my mind and when we went back and forth with with the consultant on this There there is something about Costs that would normally be incurred because of your readiness and your commitment to provide 24-hour day 70 7 day a week staffing and And the in the graph that they've showed is our entire budget divided by each station By full time employee.

Well, some of those costs are going to be cost that we would have to pay for regardless of whether or not they were busy in county or out of county. So what's more important to me to look at from a financial management standpoint is how much additional money am I spending to send resources out of county? In other words, for me to cover back behind that station that's gone and as you see those numbers are huge 65% of in some cases or over 60% of those workload hours are out of county But that's from portal to portal. So where a fire or medical call, a day's work for a fire station with some calls might be three or four hours if they're gone for 24 hours out of county for a 21-day assignment.

That's 24 hours where it could, if they were just back at home, be working three or four hours. So then I say well but how much money am I spending to cover back behind to keep that resource available? It's roughly about $7 and a half million in overtime that I spend to make sure that community is still protected. Interestingly enough, we budget about $9 million in revenue which figures about right for us. We get reimbursed for the amount of money that it costs to cover behind for that resource out of a state declared incident out-of-county and that's what we're talking about here on mutual aid. We're not talking about in county, we're talking about out-of county.

And then we get an administrative rate that covers wear and tear on the fire engine, staff time to process the paperwork. So from a out-of-pocket, from a cost above and beyond what it would normally cost for me to staff the station, we're not losing money. And I say losing money because I believe the consultant said it well We know that helping our neighbor isn't a let me figure if this makes financial sense. We ask for help and we get help, and we do that by absorbing some of the costs associated with doing that.

In many and most cases, as you can see here, we're reimbursed for the costs associated with filling back behind that station and not leaving it open while that engine's gone. So I don't know if that helps in the explanation of kind of that large delta. Let me see if I am

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:00:53

understanding it correctly. We are reimbursed for the overtime of backfilling, essentially. But we are not reimbursed for the pro rata share of equipment and staffing that would be commensurate but neither our other jurisdictions and we're not completely reimbursed for in-county stuff because we're so intermeshed fire department to fire department Maybe not worth it to try to get into that game.

Am I getting that? I think

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 30Proposed3:01:36

that's a good way to put it, we're not reimbursed for the expenses incurred that would be incurred anyway but the overtime itself and that is a cost above and beyond what we would normally pay at most and in fact All of our overtime costs are reimbursed for those incidents that are state declared emergencies Which are almost all of our out-of-county responses

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:02:09

Supervisor Nelson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:02:11

Yeah, I'm getting back to those numbers there you said so we budget nine million Seven half a million alone is on the overtime in the backfill We're also paying those firefighters that away right? So what's that? What's that number and

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 30Proposed3:02:24

So we are added overtime costs or cost associated with those incidents that are out of county is roughly seven and a half million dollars. The amount of money that we are reimbursed And again, that's the duty crew that we're sending out. So the overtime costs that we incur is the cost to cover back behind. That's roughly $9 million, about a 17% to 20% difference in revenue versus costs. Now, we're not making any money on it but it does go to cover some of the administrative and that's what it's for, to cover some of the administrative expenses associated with managing the overtime system.

Okay. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:03:14

What were the biggest surprises that you found from the KPMG report?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 30Proposed3:03:23

I would say, I think the takeaway for me was we found ourselves saying well we do that or wait a second. We have that you know that that's included in a policy or wait a second. We we do inspections that way or they know how to do this and what came out was Just because we know where they are and we know how it's supposed to be done doesn't mean that the people that are doing the work. So, that was the biggest gap for me was we would look at ourselves and say well no, we have it right here and the consultant would say yeah but we talked to the people that should know this and they don't know where that is so thank you for it.

So that's probably for me anyway and I don't know about for

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:04:09

Sean. May I ask Mr. Heckman or Chief Heckman about what you find?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed3:04:15

I found that we had processes in place that were, well in our mind were good and efficient and effective. And what I got from the study was that we could do a better job to refine those and just go into more depth. You know data is everything and historically the fire service has not necessarily been great at tracking data and I think we've done a yeoman's work to try and get up to speed but I think we can do it a little better. But overall it was a good comprehensive report

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:04:44

And Shauna, did you have something from the financial piece?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 32Proposed3:04:48

More from the IT and financials. So I think just the data-driven tracking analysis that we do at a level that meets our needs but having that information more regularly reviewed monthly, daily would provide leadership a better opportunity to strategize and work more efficiently overall. So I think we have a lot of opportunities some of the technology isn't quite ready yet but we are exploring it but definitely an opportunity there for us and something we've been looking at but it's going It will be a bit of a hurdle for us just getting it implemented and rolling it out, but certainly will be beneficial to the community and leadership. And of course the board.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:05:36

Well thank you. The thing that oh Supervisor Lapanino go ahead.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.863:05:41

I just wanted to once again think CEO Miyasato and KPMG These things are probably the best tool that I have on the board to get in depth on some of these departments and really kind of take a look at it. And, I think it's huge kudos to the department to be able to say yes. It isn't nice when you look in the mirror We don't see any of those flaws, you know. It's like oh no my hair looks great this looks good this tie looks good and then your wife comes in is like ah you got to fix this you gotta fix that. So I just appreciate your response to it being open and I think all of our departments have done a really good job of saying alright this is a little critical some most of its not meant to be but you're not gonna be able to fix something unless you identify it and say okay we should probably doing this better And I think we've all been doing the same things for the last 20, 30 years as tools for data have exploded and we can do things better and smarter.

I think that's what this whole exercise is. So from both sides, from CEO's office, KPMG asking the right questions to you responding in. I find that in almost any business is a lot of times management knows don't we do this? We're supposed to be doing this, I know this But the person actually doing the work is like, I might've been trained on that one time a long time ago but I don't know anything about it or forgot about it or I'm new. So again great report thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:07:19

Supervisor Hart?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed3:07:20

Yeah, I just want to add that it is remarkably consistent as we go from department to department that this issue keeps coming up every time. So it shouldn't be a surprise anymore for us and the departments that are coming through this process. And the reason is that we have under-invested in this technology as an organization countywide so that is bad in a sense but it's also an opportunity because the technology has matured and evolved and become more stabilized and the platforms more efficient so it's an opportunity now to invest in those things and get better results than we would have been if we had been a cutting-edge investor in technology that was changing radically. So you know maybe it wasn't intentional, maybe it would have been better to do it sooner but it's gonna be good when we do it now and the fact that you're willing to embrace it and use this data and have it guide decision making in the future is the most important lesson of all.

And so really appreciate your willingness to do

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:08:20

Supervisor Nielsen.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:08:21

Yeah, thank you again chair Hartman You know obviously The data driven staffing has been kind of the issue that we're all talking about because that's where there's disagreement But you know nine out of the ten other, you know points here have been implemented or we're working on so I think that's a big deal and Just to speak about staffing for emergencies, you know, it just like insurance, you know you You pay for it, hoping you're never going to have to use it. That's exactly what we're doing here and just think about the opportunities, the opportunity cost of when we have that staffing fires that might be millions of dollars that are stopped a lot sooner because we're able to deploy resources.

And that's you know at the end of day. It's an allocation of resources in this county has prioritized that resources You know and that's you know, there's only so much money to go around, you know, and so we have to balance You know mutual aid staffing with competitive salaries with you know making sure that we have a Updated rigs, infrastructures. We have fire stations that are hurting so it's a balancing act and I know this board puts a lot of trust in you Chief Hartwig In evaluating those things And the other piece about the data-driven staffing is I think that right now we're going into maybe a new era of fire service in San Barbara County when we're going into unified dispatch and closest response You have this EMS contract out there that we're not sure how that will end up.

So I really think that it would be good three or four years from now kind of looking at this with whatever shakes out through these processes and that might create some more opportunities in different levels of capacity to be more efficient, but I think sometimes as you're experimenting and getting through and having some lessons learned It's a little hard to do that, but again it's been clear that we have a capable management team at FHIR to guide us through that.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:10:15

And a couple things stand out for me. One is your openness and willingness to hear. It's not always the case. And the esprit de corps and the sense of mission-driven sensibility that really permeates the entire department. And as I think, you know we have policies but then how are the processes filtered through to make sure they're actually implemented? And I suspect that it will be easier to do that in your department because people really do commit themselves to the mission.

It's a calling not just a job and I just wanted to mention how much I appreciate our CEO I was thinking about state and federal agencies, and nobody stays long enough to really stick it out and do the hard work of reforming the bureaucracy. Things just get grafted on and accreted, and it gets more and more stultified, and we find that sometimes. When we're dealing with those agencies and so we've got a CEO who stuck with it, and who is really helping us to be much more effective and efficient with the resources that we have.

We can have all the great ideas in the world, but if we don't have people working in the departments and the bureaucracy who can carry these ideas out, we're nowhere. So again, kudos to our CEO and to KPMG as well for doing such a great job. Any

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:11:54

public comment

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:11:55

on

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:11:55

this

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:11:55

item?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:11:56

Chair Hartman and members of the board, we have no requests to speak on this item.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:12:07

I move that we receive and file and approve items A through C. Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:12:14

All in favor please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously. Madam Clerk, we're going directly to item number four.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:12:25

Chair Hartman and members of the board departmental item number four is from the planning and development Department It is a hearing to consider the recommendations of the County Planning Commission To approve the Galileo Pisa LLC apartments project case numbers 19 GPA 319 RZN 2 and 19 DBP 39. This is in the second district

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:12:46

Thank You madam clerk And I guess Mr. Stewart will be presenting on behalf of the staff?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:13:04

Chair Hartman and members of the board, that is correct and I believe Mr. Stewart is supposed to be in person. I am not seeing him at this moment so I will go ahead and reach out to the department.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:13:13

All right thank you

CommentTrudy CareyProposedself-stated3:14:03

Not Mr. Stewart.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:14:12

Chair Hartman and members of the board, may I suggest we take a quick five-minute break to find staff?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:14:17

Absolutely.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:14:18

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:18:48

We're reconvening the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors meeting of March 1st after a short break. We're turning to departmental item number four, Madam Clerk would you please read that into

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:18:58

the record? Chair Hartman and members of the board as previously stated departmental item number 4 is from the Planning and Development Department. It is a hearing to consider the recommendations of the county planning commission to approve the Galileo PZ LLC apartments project Case numbers 19 GPA 3, 19 RZN 2 and 19 DVP 39. And this is in the second district.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:19:20

Thank you Mr. Wilson would you like to introduce your team?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 33Proposed3:19:26

Madam Chair and Commissioners, thank you. Today we'll have Sean Stewart presenting and Supervisor Alex Tuttle is here as well as the Deputy Director. And my apologies for the earlier break. The first time they've let me out of my office for a day so I'm still learning.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:19:41

We're glad to see you here in person. Mr. Stewart?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed3:19:49

Hello Chair Hartman and Supervisors. Sean Stewart, Staff Planner speaking for the Galileo Pisa Apartments Project. This project includes three permit types, a development plan, comprehensive plan map amendment and rezone. Additionally, a mitigated negative declaration was prepared to analyze the projects anticipated environmental effects. It's asked of you today that your board take final action on the project.

The project site is located at 5317 Cayo Real on the corner of Cayo Real and North Patterson Avenue in the Eastern Goleta Valley Community Plan Area. The site is comprised of two parcels that will be voluntarily merged following final action on the project. Parcel 22 is 1.5 acres and consists of a remnant avocado orchard, and parcel 51 is approximately a tenth of an acre and is currently vacant.

The project consists of a three-story, 27 unit apartment building with a maximum height of 36 feet and includes 3 detached carports, 60 vehicle parking spaces, 54 covered bicycle parking spaces and meets the 40% common open space requirement. The comprehensive plan map amendment will revise the community plans land use designation map to reflect parcel 51's change from general commercial to residential with a corresponding density of 20 units per acre.

The rezone will make a similar change to the county zoning maps. Notably, the majority of the site is already zoned DR 20. Parcel 22 which comprises 1.5 acres of the 1.6 acre site was rezoned to DR 20 with the adoption of the Eastern Goleta Valley Community Plan. So in essence, the rezone and map amendment are a bit of a cleanup item to ensure the smaller tenth-of-an-acre parcel is consistent with the larger parcel and also makes good use of an otherwise unusable parcel.

Shown here is the site plan. You'll notice the entrance to the site has been aligned with the neighborhood to the north, and that there is a new 75-foot turn pocket into the site to accommodate vehicle queuing. The apartment building has been set back away from Cayo Real to ensure fire department access to the building and to help preserve mountain views. The parking area and carports are along the site's Cayo Real frontage.

There is common open space in both the east and west corners of the property and new landscaping throughout. Shown here are the west and north elevations, which face Chi Rial, and the east and south elevations, which face Patterson Avenue and the storage facility to the south. As part of the design review process, story poles of the apartment building were erected These arrows represent the vantage points of the following StoryPool photos, starting from northbound on Patterson Avenue.

And the StoryPools have also been outlined in the photos for easier viewing. And here's the final view of the site from Chi Rialto. As described in the board letter for the project, the project is consistent with all applicable Eastern Goleta Valley Community Plan and Comprehensive Plan policies. For instance, the project is on public services, will complement surrounding architecture and largely preserves mountain views, includes a soil remediation plan to ensure the site is safe for residential use, is an appropriately sited urban infill housing And regarding transportation, adjacent intersections will continue to operate at level of service C or better during peak hours.

The projects would not have a significant VMT impact and the project is sensitive to the lack of street parking in the area and therefore includes two vehicle parking spaces per unit which is double the required amount in addition to two covered bicycle parking spaces per unit. A mitigated negative declaration was prepared for the project to study its anticipated environmental effects.

No significant and unavoidable impacts were found to occur, but less than significant with mitigation impacts were found for 10 resource areas. The majority of the project's mitigation measures consists of standard best practice construction measures. However there was an individually crafted mitigation measure related to the hazardous materials and site remediation.

And then less than significant impacts were found for the remaining resource areas. Following approval of the comprehensive plan map amendment and rezone, the project will be consistent with the zoning code given that multifamily housing is an allowable use in the DR zone district and at least 40% of the site is comprised of common open space. The project meets height parking and setback requirements and complies with the sites allowable density of up to 20 units per acre.

As indicated in staff's board letter, the Planning Commission requested your Board consider whether the installation of a new crosswalk is warranted at the project's driveway. Staff studied this in coordination with the Public Works Department and found that the warrants would not be met to justify the installation of a crosswalk. The genesis for the crosswalk stems from the concern that residents would not walk to the to the existing crosswalk at Patterson Avenue and instead will cross at the driveway to reach the sidewalk on the north side of Calle Real.

However, the anticipated usage is not there due to the small size of the project and convenient pedestrian access to the existing crosswalk at Patterson Avenue is already built into the site design along its eastern side. In addition to the information presented, I would like to point out that all of the project's findings are able to be made as indicated in the board letter.

And therefore staff recommends your board follow the procedures outlined in this slide in order to approve the project which includes adoption of the findings, MND, project conditions and mitigation measures, as well as the rezone and comprehensive plan amendments. This now concludes my presentation and I'm available for any questions.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:26:32

Thank you. Do any board members have questions for Mr. Stewart? Okay, going to public comment and starting with the applicant Ms. Trudy Carey and how many speakers do we have Madam Clerk?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:26:54

Yes, thank you Chair Hartman and members of the board. Before we proceed with public comment we will hear a brief presentation from the applicant and then we have currently five requests to speak from the public.

CommentTrudy CareyProposedself-stated3:27:09

Good morning I'm Trudy Carey the applicant for the Galileo apartment project before we get started I want to thank staff and the public agencies who over the past two years have tirelessly answered our questions as well as questions from the public on the proposed project For those that don't know of our work, we're local architects, planners and builders. We've been building here since 1979.

The care group offices happen to be located on the second floor of the self-storage building on the adjacent property so this is our immediate neighborhood also. We're proud of the strong and thoughtful project we have before you today. We have a very talented design team who are also available today for questions. I was gonna say next slide but I'm in charge of that With the input of staff and immediate neighbors, the project has been well studied which you can see from the list of reports that have been prepared and approved.

In answer to the neighborhood concerns about traffic and safety we normally would have prepared one traffic analysis report but as you can see we prepared five reports which were all favorable those are the ones with the circles. We looked at traffic counts accidents In front of Orchard Park for 500 feet, accidents at the overpass at the on-ramp at Patterson. The length of the median left turn pocket and we even did a turning movement analysis if two cars exited one from Orchard Park across the street and one from the proposed project.

They all turned out to be favorable. In fact, it turned out the apartments have minimal traffic impacts and have less traffic generated than Orchard Park does due to fewer bedrooms and less car ownership per household member. In fact, the site with apartments generates much less traffic than if it had remained a commercial site say for a shopping center or originally Albertsons was going to go on this site before they went up the street.

This is a log showing community outreach. We had numerous neighborhood meetings and groups, and the public was invited to come to our office one-on-one to go over the plans. And as you know we had four BAR meetings refining the project all which were very well attended as was the Planning Commission meeting. I brought today the four sets of plans that were reviewed and changed at the BAR meetings These all vary with styles, plant placement, building modeling and color palettes. And it was a very extensive review and you're happy to flip through them.

This is a view of the existing site. As you can see there are three-story buildings with three story elements in our future three story building on all three sides of this site along with commercial zoning. These commercial zones were in place when the Orchard Park homes were built. Mr. Bradford, as it turns out, the opponent was actually one of the developers of the Orchard Park PUD and he still lives there today across the street from the project.

Our site was zoned C3 prior to the last general plan amendment, as Sean pointed out. And then it was downzoned to DR20 for high-density housing. For public safety, Public Works is requiring the project to only have access... I don't know if I know how to do this. Wait a minute. Oops! Right there they want us to go straight across the street. From the Orchard Park entrance. We are not allowed to have any other access points to Patterson Avenue, despite we have 1,000 feet along Calareal or coming out into Patterson due to the intersection and the traffic patterns.

So this has reduced our buildable area quite a bit. It requires us to have a hammerhead or a cul-de-sac because we can't pull in and then pull back out. In regards to Mr. Bradford's statement on his flyer that there'll be no trees in the median, this is not necessarily true. Per Public Works when the final width and visibility requirements are determined in working drawings then they will decide about trees in the median.

Highlighted in yellow are all the restrictions placed on this parcel. As I mentioned, the design process started with a location of the driveway by Public Works. That's where we started. That was our given. Then we laid in the two front setbacks of 20 feet as this is a corner lot and then the fire department is requiring a certain radius so we get kind of a Lombard Street driveway to, we have to come in there and make the curve, two curves to get into the site And then on top of that, for fire safety to serve a three-story building on one side they require that big yellow area that you see in the middle for their ladder safety and the truck distance from the building.

Some of the mitigation items for the community are going to include a new sidewalk at Cali Rao where there is none, two pedestrian sidewalks from the apartment site to the east to the traffic light Underground public storm drains, as right now there's an open ditch along Cala Real. And approximately nine public light standards and a public fire hydrant at Cala Real.

Quite a bit of improvements for a small site. And this shows you how we fit the improvements into the site. Obviously, we didn't have a lot of area to work from, and you can see how we got that in there. It's kind of like a magic trick. This is a rendering of the landscape plan with building proposed. The Board of Architectural Review approved the project and the Planning Commission voted unanimously to approve with a 5-0 vote, which as you know is rare on the first review.

The project had quite a bit of opposition headed by Mr. Bradford, his concerns have been heard and most of them are directed at public work safety requirements and zoning regulations which are out of our control in his control the majority of his objections have been found to be erroneous or subjective and not fact-based and this was found at the BAR and the Planning Commission As to the opponent's objection to the height of the building and the density, the property is zoned for the proposed height and we are proposing fewer apartments than the zoning allows with double the required parking.

I want to assure you that the project has had a very thorough review and the neighbors have been very well heard as reflected by the minutes in the videos of both the BAR and the Planning Commission. You'll note that the building is sited to the back of the site and it undulates. It has movement to it. In regards to the siting of the parking behind the building, the BAR has had us prepare an alternate site plan with the building to the front. After much discussion, the BAR members voted that it was better to cite the building to the back for a variety of reasons and then had us mitigate the design with a different plant palette adding screening behind the carports dividing the carports into three And they studied the view into the project at the drive entrance in Patterson Avenue very carefully.

You'll notice when you pull in the driveway, you pull into landscape only. You see the three red trees at the bottom there? The next slide is really important because it shows the scale of the proposed building to the neighborhood. It's very hard for anybody, whether you're trained or not, to read drawings and you'll see the size of the building compared to the self-storage buildings is a third of only one of the buildings. It much narrower and it's about the length of that first building. I think the public must think because the heights are similar that the building mass is similar to the self storage and they're really not as you can see in this slide We think the project is going to be great.

We're bringing 27 new, well-designed rental apartments to the community which are sorely needed. And what we're truly excited about is that we've gone to the expense. We're gonna build 18 rental townhomes on the second level with mountain views to the north and southern exposure to the south. It's very rare that you get good sunlight into an apartment, and the fact that these are able to be south-facing is a very big deal, and with mountain views. On the first floor you have one level ADA adaptable two bedroom apartments that open up to the green space to the back.

Each apartment has a private washer-dryer space, extra tall windows north and south for plenty of sunlight. They all have air conditioning. They have generous bedroom sizes. That's one of my pet peeves when they're not. There's two parking spaces that are provided per apartment and guest parking. There's two lockable bicycle spaces per apartment. There is a solar system on the carport roofs, and there's charging stations for electric vehicles.

We've taken great care with the input and approval of the BAR to select a total of 74 trees blooming at various times of the year, which you'll see in the lower right corner of the blooming schedule. They are fast growing and offer a variety of color. In the right-of-way alone there are 17 strawberry trees, 16 gold medallions, 4 oaks, and 10 jacarandas for a total of 47 trees.

On the interior of the property, there's 27 screen trees. I envision this being similar in feeling to when you drive down Anna Panu Street when the trees are in bloom. As you've previously seen this slide, I'm not going to go through it too much. But the site is really close to a variety of destinations such as the public bike path, major employers, medical offices, shopping schools, entertainment such as the movie theater and the bowling alley, parks, the public library and the public tennis courts on Kellogg, I mentioned a few. If I was a kid on my bike, I'd be very happy here.

And it's our desire to give rental priority to nurses and firefighters who are nearby so they can live in the area where they work I've highlighted a few of the Commissioner comments as they closed their meeting at the Planning Commission and they approved us with a strong unanimous vote of 5-0.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:37:35

Ms. Carey, that is your 10 minutes. Can you wrap up?

CommentTrudy CareyProposedself-stated3:37:39

Good enough. Thank you very much. I would like time to rebut or answer any questions.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:37:49

I would like, this isn't an appeal. It is however quasi-judicial so we need to disclose any ex parte communications so I'll start that I met with Mr. Bradford at the site on 224 and we discussed the density, the location of the parking and the left hand turn and then I spoke with Ms. Carey yesterday by Zoom Supervisor Hart.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed3:38:19

Yes, Madam Chair. I met with excuse me. I had a meeting with Paul Bradford via zoom on 218 where we went through all of the specific issues that he raised in his letter and Then I had a meeting on February 25th with Miss Carrie where I Asked her about all the questions. Mr. Bradford had raised this letter

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:38:41

Thank You and supervisor Nelson

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:38:43

Yes, I received an email from Paul Bradford on Friday the 25th which included his letter as well as cards from neighbors where they had concerns. I also met via Zoom with Ms. Trudy Carey yesterday afternoon to discuss the project as well.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:39:00

Supervisor Lavanino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.863:39:02

Thank you. I've had the same email from Mr. Bradford with the notes attached and I had no communication with the other side.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:39:10

Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:39:12

I met with Mr. Bradford in my office a couple weeks ago and talked by phone with Ms. Carey yesterday afternoon.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:39:22

Before we go to public comment, does anyone have any questions for Ms. Carey?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:39:31

Madam Clerk? Chair Hartman and members of the board, we have five requests to speak on this item. And if you are a member of the public and have requested to speak on departmental item number four regarding the Galileo Pisa LLC apartments please log in now to do so. And first we did get a request from Pete Jordana in person as well as in Zoom is he here in person?

Great, we will begin here in Santa Barbara with Pete Jordana to be followed by Kathy O'Dell.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:40:01

Okay and I will now close public comment for additional people in the queue with the five is it? Come

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:40:09

forward.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:40:16

If if I might ask you we want to catch every word so it's being recorded and we ask that you speak into the mic.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed3:40:24

This is a very special day that I'm here because 107 years ago today, Giordano started. So I just want you to know that we've been around a long time. I didn't start the business. I just wanted to get that out there. But I am a second generation and I'm totally for this project. I'm a local person. We have a warehouse, 100,000 square foot warehouse Less than a mile from this property.

I am very familiar with the area because probably once a week, I go past this parcel maybe going to the bank or going Cal Real. Probably the most important thing that I'd like to stress we need housing Over 50% of our people who work in Santa Barbara for Pacific Beverage or Jordanos commute. They go to Lompoc, they go to Santa Maria, Oxnard. It's just terrible and the price of gas right now, what's it? You can at least pay $60 at the minimum to fill your tank up. I feel sorry for my employees, our employees.

It is a perfect spot In my opinion, for more housing. I know the property very well. I urge that we get approval. I have no interest financially. But that is an organization that has been around for a long time. They know what they're doing, they are builders, they're not from out of town and it's housing, housing, housing. And I want you to support this problem, this opportunity.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:42:17

And Kathy O'Dell has not logged into Zoom so we are going to move on to Paul Bradford to be followed by Janie Campbell.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 35Proposed3:42:28

Just confirming you've got my audio?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:42:31

Yes, we can hear you. Please proceed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 35Proposed3:42:32

Chair Hartman and board members, given this proposal's requirements to revise the comprehensive plan map at Eastern Valley and Toledo Valley Community Plan, I'm speaking today not as an appellant and therefore limited to just three minutes. I met with three of you, corresponded with two of you and provided a detailed letter of the concerns of more than 360 residents. That letter also provides specific recommendations to make this project more compatible with the neighborhood Thank you, Mr. Mayor and members of the public. I'm pleased to be here today to support the applicant's efforts to improve traffic safety and promote consistency with the intent of the Berry Community Plan that may be amended today. To be crystal clear, I support the applicant's right to build something on this site just not the project before you today.

In fact our neighborhood Orchard Park located across the street supported her second self-storage project given its hyper low impact. When a proposal at nearby 80 North Patterson posed traffic and safety and compatibility concerns, the applicant worked closely with me, former Planning Commissioner Brown, and the neighbors to advocate for the neighborhood. Her own words found in Appendix C of my letter to your board pose a conundrum because they address many of the same concerns our neighborhood now has with the project before you today.

To cut to the chase, we ask that the board have a thorough discussion on the issue of density as it relates to the design guidelines in the community plan and the issue of traffic safety as it relates to proposed access and our alternative proposed access. As stated in my letter, SBAR stated that these issues of density and traffic would be addressed at planning commission and planning commissioners somewhat wrongly concluded that SBAR assumed that SBAR must have dealt with these issues previously. These issues have not been fully vetted While the community plan sets a density ceiling, your board has full discretion on what density is or isn't compatible with the broader community plan guidelines in the existing neighborhood.

If the community plan is clear, buildings are to be clustered and parking lots and other impervious services should be placed in the rear and side rather than the frontage. Yet this site or to provide the most number of units for the applicant as the exact opposite single story single three-story structure with parking upfront conversely Orchard Park was owned for 40 homes if a company I work for proposed just 20 to match the neighborhood density I understand the pressure your board is under from Sacramento to build units.

Yet my hope, our neighborhood's hopes are that you will not defer to Sacramento but rather the clear direction of the community plan and the wishes of those who call this neighborhood home. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:45:18

Thank

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:45:18

you. We will now go to Janie Campbell to be followed by Scott Schell who is our final speaker. Janie?

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CommentJanie CampbellProposedself-stated3:45:36

Great. Madam Chair and Supervisors, my name is Janie Campbell and I live in the Orchard Park Lane housing as my neighbor Paul. My concerns as a homeowner and a constituent are in keeping with many of my neighbors who oppose this project For a community with architectural standards, Galileo Pieces' density, height, monolithic design and traffic concerns seem to have been considered by another government with no sense of aesthetics, community impact, design sophistication or safety.

I'm totally aligned with the well-researched and detailed letter that Paul Bradford submitted on February 20, Supervisor Harper. In that letter, he made clear that we've been asking for mitigation that has seemingly been ignored. Paul explains the conflict created when the Planning Commission would not consider the density and access issues assuming that the Board of Architectural Review had already done so.

We were directed not to discuss these talks with the DA but to do so with the Planning Commission. So this erroneous assumption left our concerns unconsidered and unheard. I'm also compelled to point out the applicant protested a project in our neighborhood using similar language, which Paul referred to in his talk. We're only asking for your consideration of our concerns.

Paul has suggested some reasonable and effective solutions to some of these anticipated problems. So please Please help us feel that your mission to provide quality public services to the people of Santa Barbara County in response to their need for a healthy, safe and prosperous environment. Let us know that includes health, safety and prosperity of the majority... Excuse me, of your constituents.

Thank you. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:47:53

And we will now go do Scott Schell who is our final speaker. Scott?

CommentScott SchellProposedself-stated3:48:06

Good afternoon Supervisors. My name is Scott Schell with Associated Transportation Engineers and I'm here just to answer any questions that may come up from the Trudy Carey team with regards to traffic information that was presented in the staff report. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:48:24

Could you get a little closer to your mic or sound system? We're having trouble hearing you.

CommentScott SchellProposedself-stated3:48:32

Okay, how's

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:48:32

that? That is much better Mr. Schell.

CommentScott SchellProposedself-stated3:48:34

Okay great time to get a new mic again I'm Scott Schell with Associated Transportation Engineers and really as part of the project team was here to answer any questions that might come up about the traffic information that was presented in that staff report

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:48:52

Great, thank you. So with that are there any questions about traffic for Mr. Schell? Okay with that then public comment is closed it's back to the board it's in Supervisor Hart's district would you like to lead off?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed3:49:06

Yes, thank you Madam Chair. I really appreciate Mr. Bradford's advocacy for his neighborhood and the folks who've communicated with my office about their concerns about this project but I do want to start by referencing Mr. Giordano's comment about the need for housing. I think it's very telling that as a major employer in the community he's here to speak about that issue because when I talk to business leaders, that is the number one issue that our business community is facing. Is that there is not adequate housing for local employees and more and more people are being forced to drive very long distances to live. And there's many reasons for that you know one of the things it's driving The demand in our community is that we have a very high quality of life place here in Santa Barbara County and people are coming from all over the state and the country to live here.

Many people have relocated during the pandemic because their jobs have turned out to be portable, and they are displacing local residents who have lived here for many, many years and that presents serious public policy challenges. So when the issue is framed as though it is the state of California telling us that we have a housing crisis I don't think that's really what's going on. I think we who live here know we have a housing crisis and we're trying to respond to that. And this site was rezoned as part of a 10-year process to revise the Eastern Goleta Valley Community Plan And the result is a pretty modest increase in residential zoning on this site at 20 units per acre. This isn't really a high-density housing site at 20 units per acre, there are much higher density projects that exist in the community today that were built years ago.

City of Santa Barbara is doing much more dense projects now And this is, frankly, a compromise. And what's really interesting is that Ms. Carey is not maxing out the zoning on her site. She is under what is allowed with the 27 units that she's proposed. You know and I think there's a legitimate argument that maybe that shouldn't have been the case. That this project might have been better if it was pushed to include more units because we desperately need units for people to live in. This is a very high quality rental project that's thoughtfully designed, that has two parking places per unit, that has 40% of the site in open space. You know I don't honestly think and this is really I believe the central issue for Mr. Bradford in the neighborhood is that in this process of looking at this project And considering it through the Board of Architectural Review and the Planning Commission, and now here at the Board of Supervisors that there hasn't been a direct discussion about density yet.

I don't think that's exactly right but I want to have that now and I wanted to make sure that issue is directly responded to because it's the core of everything that's being talked about. I don't believe this is too dense. I believe this project is appropriate. I think this is a really unique site and I think that our design review process is so robust that all of the issues that have been raised by Mr. Bradford and some of the neighbors in the neighborhood have really been discussed in great detail through the process of going to the Board of Architectural Review and the Planning Commission, you know on the second page of well let's start with the first page of Mr. Bradford's letter He talks about this density being out of place.

This is a very urban, excuse me.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:52:51

I erred and didn't give Ms. Carey a chance for rebuttal so did you need to say anything in response to the public comment that you heard? Please at the mic though because we want to hear and record

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CommentTrudy CareyProposedself-stated3:53:10

Just a small thing there. They're quoting me on another project and they're misquoting me. Thank you

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:53:15

Okay, thank you Sorry supervisor Hart

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed3:53:19

gave me a breath Yes, this is a three-story building But it is a three story building that is located immediately adjacent to a three-story building if we put up the design That's the site plan one of the critiques that has been raised in and I personally You know, this is the place that I start when I look at a site design. How can we move the cars in back of a development? Because it just doesn't look as good to have And a site plan is better more human scaled when the buildings are in relation to the pedestrian area But this is a unique site. We have a three-story building in the back of this property So and the Board of Architectural Review considered this issues explicitly if we move this building up toward Kyrie L and put the parking in Brack and back The massing from the pedestrian scale, this is way out of proportion I'd like to Thank you.

And in the far distance, back up against the other three-story building are the residential apartments that people are living in. And yeah if you made them two story, you would have less of a visual issue but you would have fewer units and so we're trading...we have to make a trade off here. In the world where we need housing We are making the conscious choice to have density in this urban location at a busy intersection near services that people can walk to and not rely on their cars.

Mr. Bradford's second point in his letter talks about the removal of mature median landscaping. Yes, there are three jacaranda trees coming out of the median in this proposal in order to accommodate The left turn lane that the Public Works Transportation staff believe is the best way to handle the traffic. But there are, you know I don't even remember how many trees Ms. Curry said. I think she said 47 trees in the right-of-way that are being, you know new trees to replace the three jacarandas that are gone There's more than 74 trees. I think in total on this site 40% of the site is open space You know, this is a remainder avocado orchard in a place that isn't going to support urban agriculture There's no way that that use is going to continue there's gonna be you know The original zoning for this property was a commercial center that would have generated far more units so instead because of time and a shift in strategy we're doing apartments that we need.

There are many legitimate issues about access and traffic safety for this intersection, and this is a complicated place that I voted against commercial office space across the street from this because of traffic and safety issues but this applicant has worked really carefully with Public Works Transportation staff and has done their very best to design a project that can fit into this neighborhood and there are not a lot of discretionary issues available to the applicant and I believe our board about the design of the traffic safety improvements and the infrastructure for that.

So, the other point that actually I think I might have gone through them all. It wasn't I was going to go individually through each one of them but I think I have kind of hit on all of I've been talking so in summary, you know this project is change. in a neighborhood that is well-established, and that change is often difficult. But if we are going to be serious about addressing the housing needs of our community, we will have to embrace change. And this project is very thoughtfully designed. It has had rigorous review at the Board of Architectural Review. I believe it went back to the board four times for revisions. Many of the changes in this plan or not the original choice of the applicant. They are the result of that collaborative architectural design process and input from the neighbors, and input from the board itself.

And the result is a project that is most like the existing neighborhood. It architecturally and its design flavor is matching the existing storage building And that the location of the building was the choice of the Board of Architectural Review. The location and the style and the type of landscaping was the choice of the Architectural Board of Review. All of these things were modified and changed from the applicant's original proposal, and I think that process is the best thing we have available to raise up the neighborhood concerns about a project And to have a public transparent process where design experts weigh in and help move that project in the right direction to be more compatible with the neighborhood. Obviously, here at this point in time there remains concerns from the neighborhood and I respect those concerns but respectfully disagree with the conclusion that we should not support this project which is below its maximum zoning provides two parking places for every resident of the apartment building with additional guest parking is designed in a sensitive way to blend in with the neighborhood.

So I hope at the end of all of this, there are gonna be wonderful families and employees of Mr. Giordano's business and all the other businesses that desperately need housing for their workers living in these wonderfully constructed new apartments that will be great friends and neighbors of the folks across the street in the neighborhood.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:59:49

Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed3:59:51

Well, I agree with my colleague, Mr. Hart You know, I think it's natural as a neighborhood to get used to the lack of traffic impacts that storage has and just hope that every development ends up being storage. And I think that's really apparent from our last couple hearings in the area, that that's kind of what folks would want. But we don't have that level of intrusive government to force everybody to do storage, and it doesn't meet a burning societal need.

As Mr. Harp pointed out and Mr. Giordano, it's not only the biggest issue for business. If you're talking about generational continuity for your kids to be able to survive here, we need more rental housing If you're talking about diversity and the biggest factor is whether there is housing. If you're talking about the environment, 60% of our emissions are transportation and that's being driven by people having to live farther and farther away from their jobs.

The biggest environmental issue Can we build housing close to jobs? And I would even argue such things as the pandemic revealed to us really that the people who got sick over and over again, it was because of their the question of the difference of housing. So if this is the biggest factor in All of the issues we're tackling, we need to be meaningful about addressing it and a rental housing project. Though I agree with Mr. Hart that you know it's probably should have put more density in this project in order to reach that but I think this project is approvable today.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:01:53

I don't see any other lights, so I'll go. I would like to echo Supervisor Hart's appreciation for the Neighborhood Association and how active they have been. We need housing but we still have to conform to our rules and policies. So I looked everywhere trying to figure out what this wouldn't conform to but I came to the same conclusion as my colleagues Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to hear Mr. Robertson, if you are willing to discuss that for a moment.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 36Proposed4:03:13

Madam Chair and members of the board can you hear me?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed4:03:16

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 36Proposed4:03:17

Perfect. This is something we worked with the applicant on for quite awhile. Based on the number of peak hour trips that this project generates, they are fairly low. 15 peak hour trips. There's about seven trips into the site total, about seven trips out and this turnpocket in the peak hours anticipated to have no more than four vehicles in the hour. So after consulting with both traffic engineers we felt that four cars in an hour qualified for our Shortest pocket, which in this case, well our shortest pocket that we would allow in the county would be a 50 foot pocket with a 60 foot taper. So total of 110 feet. In this case we've actually designed it a little bit longer 75 feet with a 60 foot taper and we feel that that would actually be confident long enough and we feel it would be confident to handle the peak hour volumes for that

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:04:21

Thank you. And just a quick question, do the trees have to come out? Is that already known for sure or is that still a question to be answered?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 36Proposed4:04:30

Madam Chair, members of the board, that's actually a question to be answered. I think Public Works would want to save as many trees as possible but the safety of removing the vehicles from the high-speed lane is going to be more important than saving the trees and as Ms. Carey said that Public Works is willing to let the applicant plant more trees, if that's the case. But to remove the cars from the high-speed lane we need to build the pocket per our standards.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:05:01

Thank you so much for being here today. Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:05:06

Yes, thank you Madam Chair. I just want to echo what my other colleagues have mentioned already. You know, we keep talking about the job housing imbalance. So we got to have housing down here in the South Coast and that's the bottom line Seems to be a balanced project. They could have done more they chose to do less I like the siding up against the storage units, you know that makes it a ton of sense It seems to be at a thorough project so thorough that they actually have a blooming schedule I mean that seems to me somewhat excessive but it just shows the care that the applicants gone through to To really answer every question for the community and our board and so I'm inclined to support the project

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:05:47

supervisor Lavinia

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.864:05:49

Thank you, Madam Chair. I would just echo what everybody else had to say and I just want to point out too that if we're really serious about building housing this is 27 units 16 per acre density and they've been in the process for going to be pushing three years and even though it's gone through the system relatively Smoothly, as far as a 5-0 vote at the Planning Commission and the Board of Supervisors looks like this is going to be a 5 0 vote.

It still takes three years to get here and I'm sure you know countless hours of staff time and consultant time and dollars going out the window We got to do something about that, because this is not a sustainable way for us to build housing in Santa Barbara County. And I know we all want to protect neighborhoods and we all want to protect our views. That's why this is a beautiful place to live.

But we're not going to fix our housing problem by having people wait three, four years to get to us and approve projects that are under the density level. That are in an area where we all as a policy direction would say this is exactly where we want a project to be. So as Supervisor Nelson said when you talked about a blooming schedule Been here 11 years first time I heard of that one, but unfortunately now that's probably going to be a requirement. You know that we're gonna have a blooming schedule so I Support this and we've just got to figure a way to fast-track some of these things that that we just so desperately need

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:07:34

So may we have a motion? Supervisor Hart,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed4:07:38

I'll move the staff recommendation

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:07:41

Second

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed4:07:43

second

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:07:44

All in favor please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously so we'll recess now to lunch there is no closed session today and we'll be back at two o'clock Good afternoon. And this is the March 1, 2022 meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors here in the Santa Barbara Hearing Room. We're convening after lunch and we're about ready to turn to departmental item number five. Madam Clerk would you read that into the record please?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:59:48

Chair Hartman and members of the board, departmental item number five is from the Planning and Development Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Triguero appeal of the planning commission's approval of the GNK Farms Cannabis Processing Building case numbers 21 APL 32 19 CUP 62 20 AMD 3 in 19 CDP 157 and this is in the first district.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:00:13

Thank you and Mr Wilson your back would you introduce your team?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 33Proposed5:00:18

Good afternoon, Madam Chair and members of the board. They will be presented today by Ben Singer remotely and we have at the table Supervising Planner Joe Dargle and Deputy Director Travis Seaworth to answer any questions.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:00:34

Mr. Singer?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed5:00:38

Yes I am ready whenever we are perfect thank you Good afternoon, Chair Hartman and members of the board. Today I'm presenting Case 21-APL32, a Traguero appeal of the G&K Farms Cannabis Processing Building. Next slide please. The site location is shown here. The project site is located between Highway 101 and Highway 192 or Foothill Road. The City of Carpentaria is shown in pink and is approximately 4,000 feet southeast of the parcel. And the La Mirada Existing Developed Rural Neighborhood, or EDRN, is shown in green and is approximately 350 feet northeast of the parcel.

Next slide please. A closer view of the 14.66 acre parcel is shown here, the parcel is in red with the La Mirada EDRN Highway 101 and Foothill Road all noted as well. As you can see, the site is developed with greenhouses already similar to the adjacent properties which are also largely developed with greenhouses. Next slide please. The County Zoning Administrator heard and approved the proposed project on November 16th, 2020. And an appeal of that decision was filed on November 30th, 2020. The Planning Commission then heard and approved the proposed project on June 9th, 2021. An appeal of that decision was filed on June 18th, 2021. The proposed project has been revised since the Planning Commission's approval in the following ways.

The Odor Abatement Plan or OAP no longer includes installation of a second buyer's vapor phase unit And it does now include the model OAP language. Boilers are no longer included in the proposed project, and five more water tanks have been included for a total of 10 proposed tanks. Next slide please. The proposed project is for a new 25,418 square foot, 25-foot tall cannabis processing building and a new detention basin.

The proposed project also includes 10 new water tanks as mentioned, and two emergency generators Grading for the proposed project consists of 1,400 cubic yards of cut and a thousand cubic yards of fill which is primarily for the detention basin. The proposed project will also include 50 new full-time employees in addition to the 30 already on site for a total of 80 employees working on site.

Next slide please. The site plan is shown here. The green areas are existing greenhouses, an existing warehouse and other smaller sheds. All existing structures have been permitted under separate permits. The blue area next to the existing warehouse is the proposed detention basin. The yellow area is the proposed processing building and the red circles are the water tanks generators and some HVAC equipment adjacent to the proposed processing building.

Again, everything in green is existing and permitted. And the new proposed development is the yellow blue and red. Next slide please. The appellant raised seven appeal issues one of which has three distinct parts. The first appeal issue is the contention that the planning commission's discretion was incorrectly narrowed to only the proposed processing building and that they should have considered the existing density of development on site and in the surrounding area.

In response, staff finds that the Planning Commission's review was appropriate. The proposed project includes an amendment to the existing development plan on site which allowed the Planning Commission to review the amount of development onsite and the commission made the findings for approval including that the site is suitable for the proposed density of development.

Next slide please. The second appeal issue is the assertion that the proposed project is inconsistent with comprehensive plan, including the coastal land use plan and Toro Canyon Plan specifically relating to public views services and utilities prime soils and protecting biological resources. Staff thoroughly reviewed the proposed project and all of the issues raised and the proposed project is consistent with all policies and standards of comprehensive plan. Specifically, sufficient services exist to serve the proposed project and it is located outside the required buffer from any sensitive habitat.

Next slide please. For the third appeal issue, the opponent states that the proposed project will impact air quality and health and safety due to emissions and odor specifically that biogenic volatile organic compounds or biogenic VOCs will lead to an increase in ground level ozone. Staff finds that odors are adequately abated and that cannabis does not produce significant amounts of biogenic BOCs, especially when compared to native and ornamental plants such as oak trees.

The amount of biogenic BOCs produced by cannabis is not expected to contribute significantly to ozone formation in Santa Barbara County. Next slide please. The first part of the fourth appeal issue is the contention that the existing cannabis operation on site is not compliant regarding odor and that no new permits should be granted until it is. The subject parcel is compliant with all laws, rules and regulations for odor abatement. There are no existing violations onsite and the planning department's permit compliance monitors the existing operation.

Next slide please. The second part of the fourth appeal issue is the assertion that the proposed odor abatement plan is inadequate. The OAP is certified by a certified industrial hygienist and will adequately abate odors from their proposed project. The OAP also includes protocols for odor response, and the county will take action as necessary in response to violations.

Next slide please. For the third part of this appeal issue, the appellant states that the county has not been able to adequately enforce conditions and requirements for cannabis projects. In response staff finds that the proposed project meets all requirements and regulations for cannabis projects and the conditions of approval require permit compliance. This includes inspections and monitoring as well as coverage of costs by the operator for the monitoring and hiring staff or consultants that the county deems necessary.

Next slide please. The fifth appeal issue is the contention that Article 2, the Coastal Zoning Ordinance erroneously allows cannabis cultivation activities in the Agricultural 1 Zone District and erroneously designates cannabis cultivation a principally permitted use. Section 35-144U allows cannabis cultivation in the Agwin Zone District and this section was approved and implemented in 2018.

Next slide, please. The sixth appeal issue is the assertion that the proposed project conflicts with established agriculture specifically due to pesticide drift from neighboring properties and loss of prime soils. Staff's response is that cannabis cultivation is in agricultural use and does not conflict with agriculture and the proposed processing building supports the agriculture on site.

The California Department of Pesticide Regulation also does not allow pesticide drift regardless of the crop, and the proposed project avoids prime soils to the degree feasible. Next slide please. For the seventh appeal issue, the appellant states that the proposed project is inconsistent with Article 2 including the intent of the AG-1 Zone, the Carpentaria Agricultural Overlay Greenhouse Standards and the Cannabis Ordinance. Staff thoroughly reviewed the proposed project and it is consistent with all policies development standards and requirements of Article 2.

It is located within area A of the Carpinteria Agricultural Overlay, which allows expansion of greenhouses and related development. And it meets all 26 standards of that overlay. It also meets all requirements for cannabis projects including fencing, lighting and odor standards among others. Next slide please. Staff recommends that the Board of Supervisors take the following actions to deny the appeal case number 21-APL32 Make the required findings for approval of the proposed project as specified in Attachment 1 to the Board Agenda Letter, including California Environmental Quality Act findings.

Determine that the previously certified programmatic environmental impact report is adequate and no subsequent environmental review is required pursuant to CEQA Guidelines 15162 and 15168C And DeNovo approved the proposed project. Case numbers 19 CUP 62, 20 AMD 3 and 19 CDP 157 subject to the conditions of approval included as attachment 2 to the board agenda letter. That concludes staff's presentation and I am available to answer any questions that the board may have. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:09:35

Thank you, Mr. Singer. Before we go to board questions, I'd like to disclose ex parte communications for myself. I communicated with Jared Ficker yesterday for about 10 minutes by phone. We discussed the size of the building and odor control. Any other supervisors have ex parte? Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:09:58

I met with Anna Carrillo and Sally Eagle last Friday about the project at the Carpentria office. And I mostly tried to avoid Mr. Ficker, but he eventually tracked me down and got me to come out to meet with Graham yesterday at 4 o'clock.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:10:20

And Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:10:22

Yeah actually visited this site with the previous approval back when I was Chief of Staff with Supervisor Adam. I also spoke with Sarah Trujillo last night for about a half an hour on a Zoom call. And then today, I drove Foothill Road from Linden all the way through and then came up on the front entrance as well as for a little site visit in the area.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:10:46

Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:10:47

Lavanino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.865:10:49

I haven't—I was on the site Over a year ago with the previous project approval, but I haven't had any specific discussions regarding this particular processing facility with either side.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:11:07

And that reminds me that a year ago I also was on site. Madam Clerk, there are some records to be included?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:11:16

Yes thank you Chair Hartman and members of the board we do have two documents received after our deadline on noon last Friday and if we can have them voted into the record if they would like to be concerned considered as a part of the record That is the first one is the applicant PowerPoint presentation from Jay Higgins received yesterday, Monday February 28th.

And in addition to that we received a public comment from Anna Carrillo over a page and length on Monday February 28th and again if they would like to be considered as a part of the record you just need a motion to that effect.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:11:53

So I move that we include these as part of the record. May I have a second? Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes. So with that then are there any questions for Mr. Singer about his presentation?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:12:10

I have a couple questions.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:12:11

Sure, Supervisor Nielsen.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:12:13

Thank you Chairman Hartman. So where are the facilities going to be built now? What's going on on the site in that section?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed5:12:25

Supervisor Nelson through the chair, that area is currently vacant. It's in the past been used for shade structures and hoop houses but as far as we're concerned right now it's it's vacant.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:12:39

What was there when there was shade structures and hoop houses? Was there cannabis cultivation there at one point?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed5:12:46

No there was not that area has not been used for cannabis cultivation. It has been used for cultivation of other crops they do not require permits from planning

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:12:55

Okay, thank you. And then the processing that will take place in this processing building is that currently happening on site or in those existing greenhouses? Can you speak to that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed5:13:10

Supervisor Nielsen through the chair, there is some processing occurring in the existing greenhouses. Each greenhouse has some processing permitted as part of the previous permits to allow cultivation in them. The processing building will allow for expanded processing as well as packaging things like that. The applicants will likely be able to speak more to the processing that is currently taking place in the greenhouses.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:13:36

Okay, and I'll have a question about that then when the applicant does their presentation. And then the last question I have is the appellant has talked about that there's quite a few odor complaints in the area. Have any of those led to actionable zoning violations?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 33Proposed5:14:02

Supervisor Nielsen through the chair I will answer that one. We have not been able to verify that this site solely is a source of any orders due to the vicinity of other operations. So we there is no violations related to odor on this property at

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:14:43

Seeing no more lights up here from the board, we're ready to turn to the appellant presentation. Ms. Trujillo?

CommentAnna CarrilloProposed · by introduction5:14:53

Hi. Can someone please show my slides? I think they're up. Perfect! Hi, good afternoon Sharon members of the board as well as to the applicant Graham and his team. My name is Sarah must get into the ghetto. I'm a local resident here in Carpinteria and I happen to live above the project site. As you can see, the subject property is in the rural residential area of the Carpentaria Valley surrounded by EDRNs including La Mirada as well as the Polo Field Condos and the Padaro Lane Residences and Coastal Access Area as well as several residences along Foothill.

Next slide please. This project would compound an existing unaddressed nuisance. G&K's permitted cannabis greenhouse operations at this site have been causing significant odor and air quality nuisance since they were approved. There are over 20,000 residents in Carp Valley and 900,000 visitors a year. Local residents and visitors are regularly subjected to noxious cannabis fumes that put our quality of life and health at risk and impede our ability to enjoy the coast.

As recently reported in the Santa Barbara Independent, county records show that Graham Farrar's two properties, this project site and his property at Casitas Pass hold the dishonor of having the most cannabis odor complaints filed by Valley residents since 2015. 252 and 285 complaints respectively. The applicant's track record operating the existing site greenhouses is a relevant factor when evaluating proposed expansion developments such as what is before you today.

It does not make sense to compound an existing nuisance with a poor operator track record by allowing the expansion of the most emissions-causing cannabis related activity processing on this site, with the additional marijuana that would also be coming in from another cultivation facility. Next slide please. The county is currently not able to enforce required controls and conditions to protect the local community.

Despite hundreds of odor complaints, with the project site being one of the top offenders, required quarterly and annual industrial hygienist reviews have not occurred for the existing site for years. To be clear this is not the fault of county staff. They're trying their best but are not equipped with the right technology or experts to pinpoint the source of odors experienced in residential areas The county has meanwhile been placing improper reliance on odor abatement plans that allow the growers to render judgments on odor complaints, as is the case for this project proposal versus the county being a true objective arbiter with the right tools to adjudicate.

Until the county is capable of enforcing its controls to prevent odors from being experienced in residential zones it does not make sense to further add to the density of issues at this project site which has long standing unaddressed issues. Next slide please. Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Barbara and I'm the director of community plan LCP and coastal acting compatibility. This project is fundamentally inconsistent with the comprehensive plan. The planning commission erred in approving the project and relying on a high-level finding that the proposed project would not be detrimental to the health safety comfort convenience and general welfare of the neighborhood and would not be incompatible with the surrounding area. To the contrary it takes considerable interpretive There are also comprehensive plan considerations such as inadequacy of public services and resources, notably electricity, roadway capacity and fire risk.

Air quality and emissions, safety, preservation of prime egg soils, biological resources in the ash in coastal areas, coastal view sheds, and the effect of cumulative impacts on the aforementioned factors given the extreme density of cannabis activities in what is affectionately called the Nidebra Rectangle of Carpinteria Valley which has the red rectangle superimposed on The existing approved grow on this site has impacted residents negatively, and I anticipate that this would intensify if the proposed processing project is approved.

I get personally frequent nausea and headaches from the cannabis air quality and odors in my home and yard. Many of my neighbors have suffered similarly, and my visitors comment on this frequently. Some residents have also experienced respiratory issues that their doctors believe are attributable to cannabis. My grandmother who died in hospice at my house during the pandemic complained frequently about the fumes. There are very real and unacceptable impacts to the lives of those of us who live near these operations, and the county has not protected us.

This project proposes carbon filtration. Unfortunately, we cannot expect this will take away all of the incremental processing orders there will be incremental air quality and order impacts the marijuana business times notes that it is not the carbon filters don't do anything but they do not get all the orders out. The best in class technology today is simply not sufficient to protect residents of car from experiencing incremental cannabis air quality and other issues that an incremental processing facility would bring The planning commission improperly narrowed the scope of its review in not considering the broader holistic context and planning ecosystem in which the project resides. Factors like surrounding density and cumulative impacts, whether on the project site or surrounding locations have a direct bearing on compatibility and consistency findings with the comprehensive plan and are germane to a decision as to whether a CUP is appropriate since a finding is required for a CUP that the project is adequate in size, shape, location, and physical characteristics This particular site already has very dense cannabis activities on 8.17 acres of a 14.66 acre parcel.

This project would add another 0.57 acres for processing. The area surrounding the project site has over 100 acres of combined permitted and pipeline growth within that small Nadever rectangle area. The cumulative impacts on the existing site and nearby render this project wholly inappropriate, particularly as it involves the smelliest rung of cannabis production And there are already 21 approved processing permits in Cart Valley.

If you look at current active state provisional licenses, the small Carpinteria Valley has more provisional licenses than almost all California counties ranking eighth if you compare it to entire counties that allow cultivation notably more than 20% in Carpinteria and then the entire county of Los Angeles. Another required finding that your board must make today if you are going to approve this project. That in designated rural areas the use is compatible with and subordinate to the scenic and rural character of the area, and that the proposed use is not inconsistent with the intent of the zone district. The project site is surrounded by ag fields and existing greenhouses low density residential development and EDRN's The addition of a processing warehouse, which is an industrial-type use will mar and efface that significantly.

Putting a permanent processing facility on the site is a significant escalation in prevention of land being used for open field farming in the future. You have to have a sense of humor here. The greenhouse overlay requires that property owners remove structures if any component was abandoned for 24 months. And yet, in this case, the county is allowing as a justification for the processing warehouse reliance on a 1982, the year I was born, Approval of a sixth greenhouse that was never built.

My appeal goes into further details regarding required findings with adequacy of several public services. Next slide, please? The ash around Arroyo Paradon Creek and coastal health are at risk. To approve this project you'd have to make a finding that adverse environmental impacts are mitigated to the maximum extent feasible. The project is within the riparian ash area of Arroyo Paradon, a coastal stream in a high flood hazard area. Due to the density of the project and surrounding pipeline projects, there are significant risks from cannabis VOC emissions which coupled with nitrogen oxide readily present for the freeway can form dangerous ground level ozone. A known health risk that has been well documented in other borough areas such as British Columbia and Denver.

And not adequately considering the ash, given the increase in built structures traffic runoff risk and worker activity as well as the project site utilization of vapor phase odor control systems. The byproducts of which accumulate as they fall to earth soil stream and see next slide please. To speak briefly on Coastal Land Use Plan Zoning Ordinance and Coastal Act concerns.

The applicant would not even be eligible to propose this project of a similarly zoned parcel inland. Our zoning treatment in Carpinteria has been gerrymandered to allow this use on small parcels within the coastal zone, despite troubling incompatible coastal use considerations. The Planning Commission also failed to analyze conflicts from project odors and emissions with public access and ability to enjoy the beach, recreational uses, and visitor-serving uses in the coastal zone.

The project is further inconsistent with countless development standards of the Agricultural Overlay District including the preservation of open field egg, minimizing cut and fill to preserve prime egg soils—this project actually removes enough volume to cover three acres with three inches of soil and minimizing hardscape areas to preserve egg soils and reduce the potential for impacts to water quality. The Planning Commission also failed to take into account violations of development standards 118 and 19 as the industrial complex is fully visible from the public Toro Canyon Ridge Trail which is part of Toro Canyon Park.

The Coastal Commission issued guidance to local governments in a 2019 letter regarding cannabis and the coastal zone and regulatory requirements of the Coastal Act. This letter, among other things, warned of the many ills that could come to pass if localities did not act to ensure that their LCPs would effectively mitigate these risks. This project is frankly the embodiment of many of those concern areas, which included that locating processing facilities on egg lands could effectively convert them into non-egg uses and that odor could negatively impact people's ability to enjoy and access the coast as well as significant ash and scenic concerns.

Respectfully, I urge you to approve the appeal and deny this project. Given the existing nuisance and poor operator track record for the existing project site activities, the county's inability to effectively enforce resident protections vis-a-vis existing operations, project incompatibility with the comprehensive plan, significant environmental issues, and broader coastal act and LCP concerns. You should deny this project since there is not a reasonable way to make your required C U P findings. Fundamentally, it is detrimental to the health safety comfort convenience and general welfare of the neighborhood. It is incompatible with the surrounding area.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:25:45

Thank you. Thank you. Uh, you went over your time about 40 seconds, so we'll take that off your rebuttal time if that's all right. So you're welcome turning to

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:26:13

Hello, how are you all doing today? Chair Hartman, Board of Supervisors. Good to see you guys again. It's nice to do it in person. It has been a long time. So here at Grand Forarm I'm the President of Glass House Farms for this processing building on our Padero Farm. We've got a great project team on this. Peter Candy, Land Use Attorney with Hollister Embrace. Jay Higgins with Environmental Side. Paul Schaefer with SCS Engineers did the engineering. Kent Mixon and Wayne Adams did the design and Jared Ficker from Thank you.

Old legacy flower packing houses that have been retrofit. This is a airtight sealed building within the building design, which means that it has a shell around it with another building inside so that we can maintain negative pressure and what that does is anytime you open a door the air flows in which mean odors can't flow out. It also has an airlock design system where there are no direct paths from the processing area to the outside. So if you open a processing area door you're met by a hallway And then on the other side of the hallway, there's another door which you then have to go open to go to the outside. Again designed to prevent odors from escaping. It has an HVAC system and frankly this entire building is an odor abatement plan. The entire design of it is for that.

It has a built-in HVAC system which has integrated molecular carbon filters. It has an industrial design that was done that makes sure that the air exchanges happen frequently enough that the odors can never build up. And as I mentioned, this is really what processing should look like I think raises the bar for it within the entire county. So, the reason that we're doing this and I guess first to remind people that this is totally separate from the already approved cultivation operation. This project is the building alone.

The site was always approved for an additional 42,000 square feet of Development as you can see from the site plans what was originally intended to go there was another greenhouse So the property currently has five greenhouses It was intended to have six would be an option to build 42,000 square feet of greenhouse We thought better for the community better for us better for the county to instead use 25,000 square foot so well within the development envelope of forty two thousand and The reason we want to do is really because it's a win-win-win. It is a win for odor, because of its design. It's a win for the county because it keeps tax revenue here rather than getting shipped out to other jurisdictions like Lompoc and it's when for us because we don't have to have an hour long drive to transport cannabis harvested at this site up to our manufacturing facility at Lompoc so that's the real reason reduces vehicle trips better controls odor keeps their tax revenue in Again, the reason for this is to control orders.

We are focused heavily on improving notice on Foothill Road Which as a reminder is not actually as much higher bar than the standard of the ordinance The ordinance is residentially zoned areas in our case foothill road is about 10 feet away from them Ridge vents on our greenhouses so much closer But we do know from the community that that's a concern for them. So we're working on Improving that I'm heard mention of you know, the complaints of the operation It's also worth noting that this remains one of the only fully licensed farms in Carpinteria. Both of our farms are the two farms that have been operation in the area for some of the longest. We have, as evidence of this commitment we have taken the already entitled cultivation that we have and put that under the umbrella of the coalition MOU of best practices for odor so I think it's worth noting and hopefully that's seen as evidence of our commitment.

This process was already approved. We did not have to further encumber it and raise the bar on it but we did that voluntarily because of our commitment. So this project does not increase intensity at all, there's no increase in cultivation, it does not increase the scale of anything. All it means is that the same amount of cannabis that is being cultivated currently is now going to be processed in a better more efficient and more odor contained way. Just a reminder project timeline we started this in December of 2019. We won, we were appealed to the Planning Commission where we won there with a 4-1 vote We've submitted our construction documents to the county already and now we're here before you guys. I think you know who we are, we've always had a strong commitment to the community and all of our operations.

We love Carpinteria. We want to keep farming in Carpinteria. Thank you guys for your support On the appellant concerns here, you notice that this appeal versus the Planning Commission one was a change and the reason for that is because every concern that was raised in the appellants original appeal to the Planning Commission has been integrated and incorporated into the project. Now I'm going to hand it over to Jake Higgins for the rest of it.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 39Proposed5:31:10

Thank you Madam Chair, Board, Jay Higgins representing Graham as a land use agent. First of all thank you to staff the staff report all of them throughout the process have been very complete and concise so I don't have too much to add just maybe emphasize some points that Graham made. The project site in its developed state was originally approved in 1982 And for six large greenhouses, only five were built around 1983 or 84. In 1986 the Planning Commission exchanged some of the remaining square footage from the last greenhouse with a 16,000 square foot metal storage building.

The project today, so that left about 40,000 square feet of entitlement area. Development plans work differently than most permits. Development plans actually allow you to build over a long period of time, so there's no expiration. The project today is using 25,000 square feet of the remaining 40,00 and realistically there won't be a return to the county to add any square footage because the balance of the site is really encumbered with access utilities parking and circulation needs Our proposal does not increase any new greenhouse area or cultivation activities.

It simply allows a normal packing and shipping function typical with ag practices but in a purpose-built building for cannabis to control odors. The project was reviewed by the County Subdivision Review Committee, the Board of Architectural Review, the Zoning Administrator and of course your Planning Commission and we're now on our fifth public hearing We have simplified the project since it was reviewed by the Planning Commission, removing a couple of extraneous components off the project like HVAC equipment. And we have submitted a separate odor abatement upgrade for the cultivation side of the project and that permit is pending with P&D. The owner baitment plan for the warehouse is solely related to the negative pressure carbon scrubber tech and within the airtight warehouse.

And that plan has been reviewed and approved by our hygienist, of course, and we've also included what is now A standard set by the coalition and the industry to include the Model OAP odor complaint tracking, weather monitoring, tiered response and corrective actions. And have several team members present if there's questions about that plan or their technology.

We've adapted where we can To the appellant's wishes, but there are some fundamental ordinance issues in her appeal That are really outside the scope of our project with that We urge you to recognize the entitlement rights on this parcel for more greenhouses But that the applicant is not doing that The project in context as a sealed purpose-built building is a net benefit or at least neutral with respect to odors That the applicant is not trying to shoehorn Processing into existing greenhouses or old metal buildings. I'm going to answer your question and And a second and that the project improves in context traffic and tax revenue picture for the county. So we do hope that you approve the project today with respect to your question about processing, Graham may correct me if I'm wrong but there are processing license spaces in the greenhouses.

That's a state licensed activity but there is no drying or curing or trimming happening anywhere on the parcel so. Point of distinction with license lingo, but we have some members here that can address questions the rest of our team Thank you very much

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:34:46

Okay supervisor Williams Well with

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:34:49

a processing facility on on-site would that reduce the amount of time that a flowering plant would be in? the greenhouses

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:34:59

It doesn't reduce the amount of time that it takes to grow the plant, but what it would do is allow the harvest to take place within the sealed building which would limit the exposure and the odor that it would produce because it would happen inside. Got it.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:35:12

Supervisor Lavanita?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.865:35:13

Thank you. A question about... Is this just for your, to process just your product or would it be available to other cultivators to come and

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:35:24

process there. The intent is to use it for our two farms in Carpinteria, we don't have any plans to process for third parties this would be just enough to cover what we grow ourselves

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:35:37

And I had a question. Mr. Higgins spoke rather quickly and I didn't quite catch, there's an odor control system that allows you to identify the source of the odor. Did I hear something like that? Go

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:35:53

ahead. I think maybe what that was in reference to is because the building is sealed, it would have specific exit vents for scrubbed carbon filtered air where you could measure it right at the vent so you could have a specific measurement of what if anything was coming out of the building.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:36:14

And so how much odor would that contribute or how do we know? I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:36:20

mean the expectation with, really this is what the folks in the community who have been asking for things have been asking for. This is a sealed building I don't know if we have the plans, but in the plan set, I want to say there's something like 19 carbon filters in this building. Every single room has one. It's built right into the HVAC and they calculated the air exchanges so it's doing multiple an hour. So really there should be no odor emission coming because it's a sealed building with carbon filtration on all of the internal areas.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:36:48

And can you talk about the energy requirements?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:36:52

Yeah, it's a it's very similar to what you would find in the general I think You know office building type Type development. It's its HVAC there's no particular You know, there's nothing that's particularly inefficient it's an HVAC system that has carbon filtration integrated into it So, um, I don't know I'm not quite sure how to quantify that and in kilowatts but I think it would be on par with what you'd find with a you know office development type of

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:37:19

And do you have backup generators?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:37:22

We included backup generators in this. It's strictly for backup, nothing that would be used for primary source power but I believe there are two backup generators just to keep the systems running in case of a power outage.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:37:33

Just a question, can you use solar on this processing facility and could you use battery backup or? The

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:37:43

building we did design it solar ready. So it has all the conduit and wiring for it. We don't currently have solar panels proposed to go on the roof of the building but that is something that the building is designed so it could be added later.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:37:56

Thank you. Yes please.

CommentThank youProposedself-stated5:38:00

Thank you, Chair Hartman. Staff just wanted to clarify one thing. The project description does allow for up to 50% of product from offsite so that is built into the project. I just want to clarify that for the record.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:38:13

One note on that, we have two farms and so that's primarily designed to be for our other farm.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:38:17

Thank you Mr. Seward. Supervisor Labanino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.865:38:22

I thought that was a clarification but I would love to see one of these built also somewhere else in the county so that other cultivators would be able to go to somewhere like this. This is kind of what I've been looking for.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:38:38

Supervisor Nelson. Yes,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:38:39

thank you Chairman Hartman So I want to make sure understand the process so you said that it we harvested in the location so the plants will Be brought so can you walk me through a little

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:38:52

bit? It's a little bit confusing sometimes because the state uses somewhat different terminology than we use locally here so what happens now in the greenhouses the plants are grown and they're and they're harvested, and then loaded on a cart that then leaves the site. What this would allow to happen is the plants would grow just as they do now in the greenhouses, and then the harvesting process, a majority of it would be able to happen inside this building. So rather than having to be loaded up, transported, and taken off-site, they'd be harvested and just moved from one of the greenhouses, whatever that is, 100 feet or so into the buildings.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:39:21

So you'd move the plants into the building?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:39:23

Yeah. And then you trim and cut there? Do the harvesting, yeah. So the way that it works, it's a pretty neat system where they come in and there's dry rooms, and the dry rooms have a door on each side So the plants are loaded in one side, fresh from the greenhouses. And then when they're finished drying, the door on the other side is open so they never actually have to be moved outside at all anywhere from when they were growing until they're sealed in a bag.

It's all done within the processing building. And then

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:39:47

Jay mentioned there's an odor abatement upgrades happening on the cultivation site that are in permit.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:39:52

Can you speak to that? Yeah, so what we did there is the cultivation site which is already approved and separate from this project was part of Carp Growers. We were a signer to the coalition MOU which upgrades the standard with action plans and odor detection thresholds. Some of that work is ongoing There's actually testing happening right now at one of the other carp farms or the invinity scrubbers and what we did is we Agreed that our already entitled cultivation would be covered under that same coalition MOU So once we have the results of the testing of that know that the units are effective and know the sizing how many units you need per acre We've already agreed that we would upgrade our existing and entitled cultivation to match that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:40:33

Thank You

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:40:38

I did have a question, I think it's for Mr. Wilson. I believe I heard you to say that the site has not been shown solely to be the cause of odor in the area and I just wonder if you could elaborate on that what is required? I don't think we can deny that there are odors and odor complaints from this area. And that's why the people who live there are really kind of at their wits end. So, I just would like you to put it in a context what kind of complaints and what kind of investigations are we doing out there?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 33Proposed5:41:21

Madam Chair, members of the Board, to clarify we do have a list and we record every complaint that comes in. We have received several complaints looking at the records I think we first started logging back to like 2019. I know the appellant said 2015 but our records show 2019 But there it was this site and a variety of other sites under the permit compliance. We're still getting calls if not daily about this site each time those calls come in the complaints are permit compliance staff is responding contacting the operator addressing those complaints what are they doing on the problem that we've talked about Not only today, but in other hearings is currently staff is unable to say where those orders are coming from because of the close proximity of other operations and the movement of odor and terpenes and not to go into depth on that.

And so staff hasn't said there is an odor problem here. Staff does respond, we do monitor that they are operating their odor abatement system, that it's functioning and that they aren't in violation of what the permitted conditions are in regards to odor. Our permit compliance staff has been out there regularly. If there are issues or was a complaint about lighting, contact the operator and they self-correct it. So that's what the pattern that we've seen here if there are issues.

The applicant has talked about improving Their older Bateman system and that's one of the things that we've worked with our permit compliance staff to go through the proper permit channels to do that to improve that when it there wasn't they had done that ahead of time. We said you got to get the right permits for that, but they are aggressive is self correcting any issues that we've seen out So I hope that provides some framework as far as what we're trying to do. To go a little bit further, staff has tried on a couple times or the department to get an independent contractor on board to help us with the order abatement monitoring.

The first two attempts were not successful and we are currently trying to meet their purchasing requirements as far as bringing independent contractor onboard The goal is to release a request for proposals early next week, to bring an independent contractor on board or consultant to help us with the odor monitoring. And to be able to do that on a quarterly basis as that condition of approval requires.

As more of these operations get permitted and we have the consultant onboard it's going to help us identify more clearly where there are odor issues and how to address those so that's what the hope is in the goal is moving forward on odor abatement

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:44:05

So is the technology available for a third party consultant to be able to identify where the odor is coming from, or is the best we can do to look at the odor control system and see that it's running appropriately?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 33Proposed5:44:24

Madam Chair. It's a good question. The goal of the consultants or that service is one, first to make sure that what they proposed works. Then to monitor it to say okay it's not working you need to make adjustments we're identifying odors I'm not an expert to talk about whether or not the technology is available to actually pinpoint definitively. I've seen presentations, I've heard that there are companies out there trying to do that. I'm not equipped to be able to answer that. The goal first is to make sure what they're proposing is adequate, is working and then we'll be able to ongoing monitoring for that.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:45:04

And I have one final question for Mr. Farrar. Did I hear you say that if this works, you would go back to your other greenhouses and upgrade those? So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:45:16

you're talking about the processing building or

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:45:20

The processing building and the scrubbers, if that technology works to control odor in the processing building would you go back to the cultivation greenhouses and upgrade those? Did I hear you say that? It's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:45:33

a slightly different technology between the greenhouses in the building. I think the buildings have the advantage that odor control And HVAC systems is a lot more advanced than in greenhouses. But I think the answer to your question is yes, because we currently process at our other farm and it converted flower packing house and this would be a massive upgrade from that. So should we have this building, we would stop the processing at our other farm and process both farms product that was grown in this greenhouse. It's the same amount of cannabis that's currently being cultivated, but all of it would be processed in a more odor-controlled way than it is today.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:46:11

And the cultivation would be in better buildings?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed5:46:14

The cultivation is slightly different. So what's happening there, there's a number of programs that we're working on there. Carp Growers has funded a handful, I forget, I think it's 11 meteorological stations within the Carpentaria Valley, one of which sits directly in front of the site here for this project so that we can measure and learn about how the wind moves so that we can better track and identify the odors to your question to staff there so we can find out where things are located. It's worth noting that there is a farm just on the other side of the creek from this proposed project site that is currently, I think, the subject of an enforcement action for illegal cultivation. So there's still quite a bit of that. I'd say it's less than 10% of the farms that have their land use entitlement and I think we're either the only one or one of two that actually have the full business license permit in Carpinteria so we're still making progress but early And that and that and that progress.

And in the greenhouses, the current work is being done is on a scrubber system it's called an identity. The inventive scrubbers just arrived or actually I think literally be being tested as we speak. The nice thing about them is because they're actually removing they're scrubbing the air, you can measure what's going in and you can measure what's going out. And if you get to a point where you can calculate what's coming out of them and how much they're removing, you could get to the point where you could see how many of those scrubbers you would need usually on a per acre basis to have the air scrubbed before it came out of the greenhouses which would mean you didn't have to replace the structures which I don't think anybody would actually like to see 186 acres of greenhouse rebuilt and turned into warehouses.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:47:51

Thank you supervisor Williams.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:47:54

Yeah, I just want to Indicate first of all, you know, I I think that I want staff to Push very hard to be responsive when there are odor complaints and visit places on site and And do a monitoring system when it becomes clear that it is possible. Part of the issue as it's gone on, is that we have evolving technology. But I want to push back against some of your line of questioning because it plays into a truly false narrative about what is happening in our town.

You know, there is significant differences of opinion about odor in the community. I live two blocks from one of the folks who writes in regularly about how odor is unlivable at her house and the only time that I have smelled it in last few years was one Thank you. Maybe more, I would describe folks who are attempting to circumvent our rules out in the Western end.

And there's definitely a concentration and we have to deal with that issue. But the narrative that odor is getting worse is just not You know, true if you rely on the testimony of the majority of Carbondareans. Even in La Mirada which is undoubtedly a hot spot of concern about odor and probably legitimately so there are either areas where they don't get the odor or where they don't perceive it And so it's very interesting, it's complex and I really would resist people trying to oversimplify the problem because for most Carpentarians this problem has gotten vastly better largely due to The efforts both of growers and of staff, and of folks who are concerned about marijuana and were willing to make odor complaints. That is still also helpful in getting our heads around the problem.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:50:57

County Council? Madam Chair, members of the board if you're done with your questions for the applicant I just recommend you move on to public comment I was just about to go there. So we have four public commenters.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:51:11

Chair Hartman and members of the board, we had an additional request to speak so we have five requests to speak

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:51:16

on this item. Okay and I'll close public comment, the queue for public comment at this time.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:51:23

Great thank you. Chair Hartman and members of the board we will begin on Zoom with Jason Rodriguez to be followed by Anna Carrillo.

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CommentJason RodriguezProposed5:51:35

Yes, can you hear me okay?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:51:36

Yes we can.

CommentJason RodriguezProposed5:51:38

Terrific thank you so uh Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors and staff thanks for your time today I'll make it brief in my previous life i was in law enforcement however since 2013 my wife and I have owned and operated the food liaison in Carpinteria I was appointed to Carpinteria's Architectural Review Board in 2019. We are local homeowners, our daughter attends school here in Carpinteria. I say all this to make the statement that we find Carpinteria the most perfect place to work live and raise a family. I'll also echo on Supervisor Williams comment that he just made it is there has been a significant difference in odor throughout Carpinteria and I hear from The hundreds of customers I deal with each day at my restaurant, that the opinion is shared.

So definitely there's been a difference and it's been a good one. Over the years, I have witnessed firsthand Graham Ferraro stay committed to his promise to the community of Carpinteria. The promise that his cannabis farm will never impact Carpinteria negatively. In fact, his business Glass House Farm, benefited carpentry and more ways that I can list off in my public comment time limit here today.

I admire Graham, he strives to be a leader of innovation in this industry and utilizes technology to improve aspects of his business multiple aspects of his business. For example the project in front of you today represents the best-in-class for odor control and cutting edge engineering built for eliminating odor. He listens to his critics and provides a solution. This is the next step towards eliminating odor Another improvement this project represents is its ability to reduce vehicle trips and reduce the carbon footprint of cannabis farming.

And as I recall, in all these meetings that's been a huge issue is the amount of traffic that has burdened our streets as some of the commenters will have said. This project gives us access crops following harvest something every cultural business needs to do And this is what this business is, it's an agricultural business. One of the many other benefits in keeping the packing house in-house and in county is that the revenue also stays in county.

Graham and the Glass House family are to be trusted and honored. I speak for myself and my entire family when I say they are all a treasure for our community. I urge you to approve the Glass House project. Thanks for your time. Those are my comments.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:54:08

We will now go to Anna Carrillo to be followed by Liz Rogan. Anna?

CommentAna CarrilloProposedself-stated5:54:16

Good afternoon, second time I'm speaking to you today. This project will be a huge processing facility near the beach residence at 25 foot tall, 25,000 square foot new building is not appropriate for this location. Unfortunately, this parcel has received 252 odor complaints. This is one of only two fully permitted cannabis projects in the Carpentry Valley and though there have been way over three complaints per 365 days nothing has been done. When the original permit was issued in 2019 an amendment was added by the Planning Commission that during the first year of operation There would be quarterly inspections by an independent industrial hygienist to verify that the odor apparatus was installed, so that part's been done and not noticed in residential areas.

It may have been mechanically checked out but P&D has not been able to identify the source of the odor issues for nearby residents of La Mirada, the Polo Field and Padero Lane EDRNs. I had been told that once the three other nearby permits were issued, P&D would be able to identify the source. But that number now is at least there's seven other permits in that area that have already been issued and still there is no way the source can be identified. One cannot identify the source when projects are next to each other.

Thank you, Wilson for telling us that there's somebody maybe coming on board next week. Because of a lack of proper odor control one definitely smells it driving or biking by this operator should not be allowed to add something more to his 8.17 acres cultivation project without better improved odor management on the cultivation side And I don't know, I still don't understand. Is there processing going on in this project? I know there's the other project has it now but when talking to the planner it sounded like there is processing. I know there's a processing permit but I don't know yes or no if there's any processing actually going on at this site The odors from the cannabis and the EcoSorb are very offensive to many people and are known to cause health issues for some.

It's not fair that cannabis odors cause local residents not to be able to enjoy opening their windows or sitting outside their homes, or use the beach for their recreation. If the county isn't capable of identifying which operation is the source of the odor problem, then how is the neighbor who has to instigate the complaint even know whom to call? It's one thing if there's only one cannabis operation in the area. But with at least seven so close together all bunched up on the flat area below La Mirada it's an impossible situation that at the present time can't be solved.

This large warehouse would be visible from the public Toro Canyon Ridge Trail. Anyway, thank you very much for your time and your consideration.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:57:18

Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:57:20

We will now go to Liz Rogan to be followed by Peter DeGray.

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CommentLiz RoganProposedself-stated5:57:29

Thank you. Hi, my name is Liz Rogan. I'm a cannabis consultant and educator. I focus on educating the public about the science of cannabis. I am here to ask the Board of Supervisors to approve The Glasshouse Project as it brings a plethora of benefits for health and wealth of our community. Graham has been an exemplary operator. Both Graham and Glasshouse team have been incredible community partners supporting many other businesses in the area throughout the last two years of this challenging pandemic. Did you know that they also grow vegetables in addition to cannabis?

I understand the applicant's concerns regarding odor, but as previously stated the packinghouse will not increase odor. Instead it will actually decrease the odor by allowing for a faster harvest overall and it is engineered for odor abatement using negative pressure as Graham mentioned in the sealed building they use molecular carbon scrubbers recirculating HVAC system and as a member of The Carp Growers Graham and Glass House are committed to the best practices in odor abatement Agricultural businesses need the ability to process their crops following harvest. The proposed packinghouse uses just one half of the square footage allowed under the current zoning on the agriculturally zoned property. Currently, cannabis is harvested and processed then shipped out of the county to be processed which brings in traffic with larger vehicles.

The carbon footprint of cannabis farming would be greatly reduced by this project Capturing more cannabis taxes within the county by not making farms process elsewhere is helpful. Having a packing house at the farm will capture more county tax revenue for all residents. It also provides more full-time jobs and supports other ancillary businesses. This is really important for our residents maintaining the health and wealth of our community, and this is Liz Rogan thank you for your time today.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:59:12

We will now go on to Peter Dugray to be followed by Joe Armaderez back here in Santa Barbara.

PresenterPeter DeGrayCarp Growers which is the association with 10 members operating 23 cannabis farmProposedself-stated5:59:23

Hi, good afternoon everyone. It's a gorgeous day in Carpinteria today. My name is Peter DeGray, Executive Director of Carp Growers which is the association with 10 members operating 23 cannabis farm projects in Carpinteria Valley. Since 2018 the organization has been committed to setting the highest standards and can cannabis farming and to farm in a way that is completely transparent and accountable to all stakeholders. Glass House Farms as a founding Carp Growers member and Graham Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm pleased to be here today as a member of the Board of Supervisors. Farrar is a current board member and he was the past president and great leader for the Association of Local Cannabis Farming. We ask that the Board of Supervisors reject the appeal and approve the new packinghouse proposed by Glass House at its Padero property, as the Planning Commission has already recommended to approve.

This purpose-built agricultural facility will further eliminate odors Neighbors in the Valley have long expressed concerns over cannabis odors, and our membership of Carp Growers has been really good listeners. Members like Glasshouse that continuously advance the science and technology needed to resolve the odor problem on the state-of-the-art packing house that Glasshouse proposes is another really productive and important stride in the valley wide mission to eliminate all cannabis odors. Odor abatement engineering proposed the facility includes negative pressure and sealed building that uses molecular carbon scrubbers in a recirculating HVAC system.

Neighbors for years have asked for this exact type of system, and this project delivers in a way that will eliminate the odors during drying and processing as we've heard mentioned in this meeting several times the most odorous phases of cannabis farming. Glasshouse is an outstanding local company with dozens and dozens of employees. And these are at local farms that are, you know, these are stable year round jobs offering competitive benefits in the community of Carpinteria. Glasshouse and its team have been just really great players and contributors and valuable partners to an array of communities serving nonprofits in the areas of environmental sustainability food and home insecurity and among other really important causes.

This appeal today represents another step in the years-long conversation that we've all had about local cannabis farming. By now, all stakeholders have an ample opportunity to weigh in and really this process is what has made local cannabis farming better. Cannabis in Carpinteria Valley is really setting standards for the statewide market and farmers have been incredibly responsive every step of the way. Projects like this glasshouse proposal are the result of listening and being proactive.

And of the county's foresight and planning in its cannabis program that has really led to incredible improvements all along the Ag Belt and Carpinteria Valley. Cannabis farming is subject to such strict review and careful planning, and I think all residents can appreciate that. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:02:34

And we will now return to Santa Barbara for Joe Armadaris. Joe?

CommentJoe ArmendarizProposedself-stated6:02:39

I'm rusty. I haven't done this in a long time. Good afternoon. Members of the board, I'm Joe Armendariz. I'm kind of without portfolio recovering watchdog politician. You know, it's so interesting to listen to people lament about the odor in Carpinteria. Many of those people I think are the ones who chased out the flowers in Carpinteria because of the impacts and now they're complaining about the odors of a new industry that replaced the flowers in Carpinteria.

And it was really interesting to listen to the resolution earlier about the wine industry, because I'm reminded about seven years ago that the board rejected an 1,100 square foot tasting room in the San Dines Valley because it was incompatible as a use in San Dines Valley. Wine was incompatible in San Dines seven years ago and now it's the most important industry in Santa Barbara County. So, you know I guess there's always going to be a constituency that's against things. Well today we get to be for things and I think we should be for cannabis because cannabis is a value added industry and by the way it's interesting to be with Graham usually have to go on LinkedIn To see Graham and what a pioneer, you know What uh, what a great cheerleader for an industry and I'm gonna steal something that he says is all the great ideas.

I've ever That I've ever had I stole Graham says that champagne comes from France tequila comes from Mexico cannabis comes from California and Here we have in Santa Barbara County an opportunity to really take advantage of that And so this board With the leadership of Steve and Doss, you guys have really borne out a industry that creates something really special. And these guys are doing it really in a way that's just fantastic and has really put this county on the map in terms of this new incredible industry. You're creating jobs, you're creating value, you're creating revenue. The processing by making it so that you can do it here in the county at the same time you're doing cultivation is capturing that revenue. It allows you to fully fund programs and services, public safety parks streets all the things that the taxpayers of this county are entitled to have and by the way and I know Doss this is close to your heart.

It's good for the environment. You're not putting the trucks on the road and doing it in such a way that you're creating Less emissions, so it's a good thing all the way around. It's just you know it's the right thing to do and so do it and reject the appeal by the way. You know the redundancy of these appeals with the programmatic EIR I was looking at slide 6 all of the same things that you were brought up in the Busy Bee case Come on, let's just stop it already. Let's just get these projects approved through the pipeline so we can start to create more value for the taxpayers. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:05:57

And that concludes public comment on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:05:59

Okay, so we'll go first then to appellant rebuttal and four minutes and 20 seconds.

CommentAnna CarrilloProposed · by introduction6:06:09

Hi. Just for the record, I wanted to just say I love flowers, love the wine industry, love housing. I love these things because they build our economy and they do it without hurting others in the process. I want to also point out that it's been three years since the initial project for the cannabis greenhouses at the site were approved. And in those three years we are still at ground floor where we started Where the county cannot effectively pinpoint the source of odors being experienced in residential zones and.

The reality is us residents end up holding holding the bag when that happens, it essentially shifts the suffering to us as opposed to making it the operators issue. Why would we add to that problem until we've solved it as exists to the already excruciating amount of density that already exists? To me, just stepping back and looking at this. This is an example of legislation for our cannabis ordinance per chapter 50 that were put in place prior to validating the sufficiency of the technologies we have and good processes systems controls and governance to ensure workable enforcement I also really take issue with the narrative that it doesn't smell anymore in CARP because believe me, it does. And all you have to do is look at the odor complaints that residents have filed to see that.

So, you know, I really take issue with that. I wanted to recap the requirements that the county has for approving a CUP. As this project is requiring that CUPS require de novo project level review in contrast to more ministerial CDPs. While the PEIR was no doubt an unfortunate botched exercise, it does not give the county a green light to approve every project under its auspices. Under Article 2, to approve a CUP you must be able to make de novo project level findings that among other things the site for a project is adequate in size shape location and physical characteristics to accommodate the type of use and level of development proposed. That adverse environmental impacts are mitigated to the maximum extent feasible That the project will not be detrimental to health, safety comfort convenience and general welfare of the neighborhood and will not be incompatible with the surrounding area.

That the project is in conformance with the applicable provisions and policies of Article Two in the Coastal Land Use Plan that in rural areas the use is compatible with and subordinate to The scenic and rural character of the area, and that the use is not inconsistent with the intent of the zone district in addition to other factors. It is disappointing to see the county's disinterest today and protecting residents in terms of its decision today to gut the cap by ushering more processing in outside of its auspices. There is not a reasonable way to make the required CUP findings for this project, in light of the intensity and density of use on the parcel itself and in the surrounding area of the Nadabur rectangle as well as the existing severe nuisance with poor operator track record, why should we believe them?

And significant environmental concerns. If this project is approved today, we should all be worried about another type of gutting. That is the gutting of the meaning of what a CUP is and what this portends for other genuine land use considerations in this county requiring a CUP. The point of a CUP is to ensure that a project will not cause havoc or damage to a neighborhood or community. Please kindly remember that as you vote today. Please consider the impacts on those of us who live here. Thank you very much.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:09:51

And turning to the applicant.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed6:09:58

Thank you very much. Just a reminder, I think that this project is solely about a processing warehouse. It's not about the existing cultivation or about the county's ordinance. This is a site that's in Area A of Carpinteria, an area where it has been designated that further development and greenhouse operations belong. There's an existing entitlement for 42,000 square feet We're using 25,000 of that. It's a de-intensification of the use that could be done there. We're also electing not to build a greenhouse but instead to build a purpose built odor controlling processing building that reflects I think the intentions of both the county and recent conversations about wanting to keep processing within our municipality or jurisdiction here in reaction to the planning and development staff that have said that processing should not take place inside of greenhouses.

This is first of its kind best in class Project designed to control odors maintain the tax revenue and operations within the county and improve our business operations We'd appreciate your support of the project. Thank you

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:11:00

And does staff have anything to add?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.866:11:05

Madam Chair, we have nothing to add at this time.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:11:07

Okay bring it back to the board Supervisor Williams and then Hart

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:11:14

Well I First of all, I believe that part of the progress to sort of put another note in the odor control debate. A lot of the progress in it is because folks who were opposed to cannabis and folks who are growing cannabis were willing to meet and negotiate and come up with an additional solution on top of the county's level of regulation You know, I think that it's...

That shows the kind of progress that collaboration can make. Unfortunately, I think part of what we're also seeing is that you know there... What strikes me today is that this project essentially is building exactly what the critics of cannabis have asked to be built which is a sealed facility with carbon scrubbers. You can go back to your old emails and you can see what was in Concerned Carpenteria's talking points over and over for three years, and that's what they asked for.

And this project proposes to build exactly that. And so what's very strange in all of this is there's no joy even in victory, right? Even when, The policy of the county slowly changes, even when the operations of a grower slowly change to what concerned carpenterians were asking for. There's no acknowledgement or even joy in that and it makes me actually feel bad that they can't seem to find any joy in victory.

Because what has been under assault today is not really this project, most of the commentary does not have anything to do with the project. It actually is mostly about the milieu on the west end. I want to go into the fact that the county has acted time and time again to incrementally improve the situation. The west end was where there was outdoor groves We banned outdoor grows.

There used to be hoop houses in marijuana out there, we banned it and got rid of it. There have been many visits by the cannabis enforcement team on the West End and one of the ones that was visited a whole lot just got evicted One of the other one that has been visited a lot is being litigated against by the county. And these are also the sites where they agreement between crop growers and the Coalition for Responsible Cannabis has attempted to implement odor control devices in them model, odor abatement program.

It's incremental It's incremental for a lot of reasons. It's incremental because it took years of jostling, it took discussions, it took adopting new technology, it took waiting for supply chains from Holland to have these odor control devices delivered. Some of the places have them, some don't. But if the goal was to have growers adopt better odor control, then that's what's happening.

And the adoption of this project which will instead of having things handled a longer period of time in the greenhouses will put them into a processing facility that has better odor control Supervisor Hart.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed6:15:40

Yeah, I think it is really important to focus very specifically on what this application is today. We have cultivation and processing going on in the site today and it emits a certain amount of odor and some of the neighbors are concerned about it. Others are able to live with it. I think it's very subjective but objectively this particular project is going to take the processing that is currently You know in a leaky greenhouse and put it in a sealed negative pressure carbon scrubbed environment that will reduce odors significantly. I think you know physics would tell you probably eliminate those odors we can't say that for certain because we don't this is the first This is a historic day. We're approving a project that is intentionally investing the resources to effectively bring those processing odors to zero.

I think that's important and that's a significant achievement, and that's something to celebrate. You know, that's what we should be focused on today is what this specific project is bringing to the table. The owner of this facility is trying to work on the cultivation side too and applying the best available technology to reduce odors on that side of the business too and is working collaboratively with others in the Carpinteria Valley to push the best available technology looking all over the world Actually, for the best available technology and working diligently to implement that technology here in our community and benefit all the residents of the Carpinteria Valley. And as others have said you know there's a significant revenue component to this that is part of county government that helps us provide the resources we need to make the investments in the community I'm The transition of agriculture in our county and how the controversy has shifted from one place to the other.

But with the diligence of the people who are working on this, the engagement of the neighbors to demand better investment, better technology improvements The bar is moving, it's getting higher and the results as Supervisor Williams spoke to are significant. They're probably not where specific individual neighbors want them to be yet but this project will improve the environment in their neighborhood and make things better and I can support this project.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:18:16

Supervisor Lavinino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.866:18:18

Thank you Madam Chair. I sense Supervisor Williams a little frustrated. I don't share that frustration because while we're hearing from three or four very people that are really close to this, this place used to be packed you know? We would have 100 people speaking so something's either gotten better or people have given up one of the other and in my history of dealing with upset People that are upset in the public, they don't generally give up.

So something's gotten better. I don't live in Carpinteria. I'm not there on a daily basis when I do drive through it. You do smell cannabis in this county. There's no doubt about it. I mean, I smell it as I'm driving through Bealton or I'm driving down Santa Rosa Road or I am out in Eastern Santa Maria. I'll catch a whiff of it here and there but I weigh that with The other side of it. What is that generating? What does that allow us to do allows us to do, you know, do the job quite frankly that we wouldn't be able to do if we didn't have it provide the services that we wouldn't have without it. So there's a give and take when laid out the first portion of her arguments.

Actually, I thought she made a pretty good case at the beginning and I was surprised that the in-depth level that she had gone but it then veered into you know the terminology of like gutting the acreage cap and those types of things which for me then that's kind of where I get lost That's absolutely not what we're doing. And what we are doing is exactly what Supervisor Williams said that I go back and look at my emails. The reason why people asked for that, that we would build a building inside of a building is because they never thought anybody would do it right? So it was this huge high bar that was like hey this is what we would accept if you would take a greenhouse or a processing facility and enclose it inside of another one That's something we could buy off on.

Well, nobody did it until now and still not going to make everybody happy but I want you to take away that that I mean my argument is that most people feel that there's progress being made and unfortunately for the rest of the industry grandma's kicked up the bar so that when we get our next processing facility that comes to us it's gonna be like well do you guys have I want to It is a balancing game. There's impacts to everything we do and you have to weigh the pros and cons, and for me especially on this particular project I mean cannabis in general for me it weighs on the pros outweigh the cons but in this particular project that we're talking about today this is for me as a no-brainer I mean there's existing cannabis production on-site, state of the art facility.

It's going to generate additional revenue for us and I think it does what most people asked us to do which is to improve the odor problem in carpentry.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:21:54

Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:21:55

Yes thank you Chair Hartman As I mentioned earlier, my expertise started off my morning in Carpinteria. I went downtown and got a breakfast burrito from Rinaldo's and then drove up through Foothill. And I did smell cannabis odor on the 101 when I passed this site and then in downtown. I drove slow and I'd stop every once in a while just to try to get a whiff of it.

Strangely, one of the places I did not smell was at this site which was kind of odd. And I know that's just one morning on one day and so I don't think that's necessarily what exists out there but it was interesting. It wasn't overpowering. And, you know, the vents were up and I actually went around to the front side too and didn't have any odor. Actually smelled more from the flower operation next door than I did from the cannabis operation.

That doesn't mean that odor wasn't emanating up and out and over somewhere else but, you know, I wanted at least ground truth it before I came into the hearing today what's going on out there. And I'm also not living in it. You know, it's not my backyard. I'm not having to have that all the time and you know, I struggle with this odor issue with agriculture because agriculture does smell. I grew up in the Santa Maria Valley back when the sugar factory was going, smelling those sugar beets was quite pungent.

You know, there's other agricultural odors out there that are offensive. And I think the issue is really concentration of odor because I don't think that we're ever going to not smell cannabis in this county. I think it is a new smell and that's why it's really easily to be noticeable but I do want to eliminate the concentration where it becomes noxious and get into a place where people don't feel like they can enjoy where they live And that's a global problem that this board still needs to tackle.

Whether that this, that's what's going to be accomplished through this project or not I think this is one of those things where there is a problem and the attack on this project is kind of a proxy war on that issue and you know I look at this project and it's a conditional use permit so it's legal in that zoning What kind of conditions can we put on a project here to make it permittable? And I don't think there's anything else that we could have asked you to do at Glass House to make this project any more appropriate for Permitting I think you guys have gone above and beyond. I think if you know ultimately, I think odor will go will be eliminated by the approval of this Harvesting inside. I mean how innovative is that? That's pretty pretty cool as well as the benefits to the casita side So I'm encouraged by what glass house is offered here and I'm gonna be able to Vote to reject the appeal and approve the project

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:24:57

I also will support the state of the art facility, but I do think that we need to recognize that the county instituted regulations on odor beyond our capacity to enforce. And that's what we're hearing from residents. And the carp growers and the Coalition for Responsible Cannabis have done their best to really up the ante and make it better, and I think Mr. Farrar deserves a lot of credit as do those others for recognizing that there are legitimate issues because I can't sit up here and pretend they don't exist There are people who are very sensitive to the odor of cannabis.

I once had a gas leak at my house and the gas man came and he said, women smell gas typically better than men do that's where the complaints do. I happen to be extremely sensitive to cannabis odors as are many our Clean Air Act it is designed to address the most sensitive receptors And we're up here dismissing them. And that is something that I just can't let go unremarked.

So, we're kind of in a catch-22 at least the people who are bringing this to our attention if in fact there's odors emanating from the cultivation on this site and we could identify it there would be a notice of violation saying that you're out of compliance and you've got to bring that into control before you can get another permit But because we can't show where the odor is coming from, we find ourselves in this difficult position.

So I say all this because this odor issue is not acceptable It's not acceptable in Carpinteria, it's not acceptable in the Santa Ynez Valley. It's not the kind of odor that comes from broccoli. It's a kind of odor that gives you a headache. It is a kind of odor that makes your eyes run and makes many people sneeze and be unhealthy. So I'm just here saying we can't ignore this issue.

I think this state-of-the-art facility is a way out of it, and that's why I would support it so Thank you for letting me have my piece Emotion I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:27:34

I definitely feel that the ability for us to issue NOVs in cases needs to happen, and I think that there is not a single one of your colleagues who's dismissing the fact that there may be people with more sensitivity to marijuana. It is just simply that When there is a rhetoric as if the county has been doing nothing, and we have had a very active sheriff's enforcement team. And we have been litigating against a facility stones throw away, visited repeatedly bad actors and banned outdoor cultivation right around this which is at literally the next door facility That it is just incorrect the way that it is being characterized.

The county, both BND sheriffs and the board has had their mind on the issue out here and it is more difficult with concentration to differentiate who are the bad actors and who are the ones who are trying to do the rules but you know it is just incorrect to validate the sort of departure from reality in rhetoric that has become all too common in our society right now, but needs to be corrected.

With that I move that we deny the appeal and de novo approve the project.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:29:18

Second Supervisor Lavanino. And all those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously so with that we finished our agenda for today and we are adjourned until Tuesday, March 8th in Santa Maria. Chair Hartman

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:29:38

and members of

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:29:38

the board

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:29:39

my apologies for the interruption but can I get a confirmation that was to approve staff recommendations A through D?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:29:48

Yes, I will clarify that. That is A as I mentioned denying the appeal make the required findings for approval under B C determine the previously certified program at a PIR and D grant de novo approval to the project

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role6:30:07

staff recommendations. Thank you. Supervisor Nelson did you have some final word? All right meeting adjourned.