BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 March 15, 2022

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:56

Okay.

Pledge of Allegianceceremonial · click to expand · ≈19s recited, not transcribed
ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.673:35

Good morning, I'd like to call to order this meeting March 15th 2022 of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. Please stand and join me in the pledge. Ready?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:03

Madam Clerk, will you call the roll? Supervisor Hart.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:07

Here.

Roll call, called by Clerk of the Board
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Supervisor Nelson. Here. Supervisor Lavinino. Here. Supervisor Williams. Here and Chair Hartman. Here
ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.674:17

And next is the minutes may I have a motion to approve the March 8th 2022 minutes. So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:23

moved.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.674:24

Second. Any discussion all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed passes unanimously CEO report

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:33

Chair Hartman, there's no report this morning.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:35

Clerk

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.674:36

announcements?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:38

Chair Hartmann and members of the board I do have a couple quick announcements this morning. I would like to note for the record that we received a withdrawal request for departmental item number two. Departmental item number two on our agenda today is from the planning and development department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Steiner appeal of the Rufino tentative parcel map case numbers 21 APL 78 20 TPM 3 and this is in the 4th district, and I would just like to additionally note for the record that there were revised recommended actions Attached to this item on our agenda and we will be taking up this item around 11 a.m I would like to remind the public that the Board of Supervisors meetings are being interpreted and broadcast live in Spanish and We are broadcasting our meetings in Spanish both for Cox cable subscribers in South County as well as Comcast cable subscribers in North County.

Members of the public can now view our meetings in Spanish by turning on the secondary audio programming also known as SAP or SAP under their language settings that information is currently being provided through the TV scroll Lastly, I would like to remind the public who are participating in our meeting today of the board's updated methods of public participation for the Board of Supervisors methods of public participation and to provide public comment on general public comment or an item on the board's agenda. Please see page two of the agenda.

Members of the public can attend meetings in person both in Santa Barbara, both in the Santa Barbara Board Hearing Room Chambers as well as the Santa Maria Board Hearing Room Chambers. Please note the board is following all local and state guidelines and are no longer requiring face coverings indoors. If you attend the board meeting in person, you will no longer be required to wear a face covering but please be advised that the Public Health Department is still strongly encouraging all county staff and members of the public to mask and socially distance themselves in crowded areas.

I would also like to remind the public that if you require any special accommodations please contact the Clerk of the Board to make that request preferably on the Friday prior to the board meeting Individuals that would like to provide verbal public comment virtually may do so via Zoom by registering in advance via the link available on page 2. After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing important information about joining the virtual meeting.

Once the chair has announced the item you want to comment on please join the meeting with the information provided. You will be placed on mute until it is your turn to speak The clerk will call you by name. When removed from mute, you will hear a notification that your line has been unmuted. If you're using a touchtone phone, you may need to press star six to unmute yourself.

Each person may address the board for up to three minutes and this is at the discretion of the chair. If you have any questions please contact the clerk of the Board's office at area code 805-568-2240 again that's 5 6 8 2 2 4 0 and that concludes my announcements for today.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.677:39

Thank you madam clerk so turning to our administrative agenda are there any items that the board would like to pull for separate discussion? Any members of the public have an item to pull madam clerk?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role7:54

Chair Hartman and members of the board we have one request to speak on administrative item number seven.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.677:59

Would you read it out into the record please?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role8:06

And for administrative item number seven, this is from Community Services Department. It is to consider recommendations regarding a grant of easement for riding and hiking trail purposes from Railway Bonada LLC 2326 Railway Avenue APN 135-360-002 and this is in the third district. As previously stated, we do have one request to speak from the public and that is Kathleen Rosenthal. And unfortunately, Kathleen Rosenthal is not available on Zoom but if you are viewing our meeting please log into Zoom now to provide your comments.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.678:48

We'll wait just a moment then we'll go ahead

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role9:17

Chair Hartman and members of the board, it appears Kathleen is not logging into Zoom at this time.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.679:21

Okay so I would like a motion then to approve the balance of the agenda?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed9:28

I'll move approval of the consent calendar. Is that meaning you want to still keep that one out?

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.679:35

No, I think we'll move on.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed9:36

Then I'll move approval of the entire consent calendar.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed9:41

Second.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.679:42

All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously. Turning to administrative item number 44 would you read that into the record Madam Clerk?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role10:00

Chair Hartman and members of the board Beginning with our first resolution to be presented today, we have administrative item number 44 sponsored by Supervisor Hart. It is a resolution to adopt it was to adopt a resolution proclaiming March 31st 2022 as Transgender Day of Visibility in Santa Barbara County and joining us in person today We have Kathy Abad And if you can please join us at the podium and anyone else you'd like to join with you feel free And I will go ahead and read the resolution.

Whereas March 31st marks International Transgender Day of Visibility, a day to celebrate and lift up the voices and contributions of our transgender community while raising awareness of the work that still needs to be done to address anti-transgender violence and achieve lived equality. And whereas, transgender people identify with a different gender than their sex assigned at birth. And trans and transgender are inclusive terms that embrace transgender men and women as well as gender non-binary, gender nonconforming, agender, and gender fluid people.

And whereas in spite of progress advancing civil rights for LGBTQ plus Americans Transgender people continue to face discrimination, harassment and violence at rates much higher than cisgender community members disproportionately affecting transgender women of color. And whereas the idea for the Santa Barbara Transgender Advocacy Network, SBTAN, was sparked in 2014 by three families interested in forming a support group specifically for families of trans youth in Santa Barbara. Now SBTAN educates individuals and organizations on best practices for transgender and gender expansive clients, patients, students congregants and families. And whereas SB10 operates Lisa's Place, the only dedicated community center in Santa Barbara for our transgender non-binary and gender non-conforming communities as well as our families friends and allies.

And SB 10 hosted Santa Barbara County's first ever recognized celebration of Transgender Day of Visibility in 2016 And whereas the Santa Barbara County has many organizations that provide services to the LGBTQ plus community including SBTAN, Pacific Pride Foundation, House of Pride and Equality, UCSB Resources Center for Sexual and Gender Diversity, PFLAG Santa Barbara, Great Outdoors, Prime Timers of the Central Coast, Just Communities Fighting Back Santa Maria, Healing Justice Santa Barbara and Planned Parenthood California Central Coast.

Now therefore let it be hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors celebrates and proclaims March 31st 2022 as Transgender Day of Visibility in Santa Barbara County and with this proclamation affirms commitment to support our gender expansive community passed and adopted today.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6713:18

Supervisor Hart, you want to lead off?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed13:21

Yes. Thank you. Thank You Chair Hartman as part of the chair's new cultural celebration program I'm very proud to introduce today's resolution proclaiming March 31st as Transgender Day of Visibility in Santa Barbara County throughout our community There are many people who identify as transgender gender binary non-binary or gender nonconforming Emmy Award winning actress and advocate Laverne Cox said It's revolutionary for any trans person to choose to be seen and visible in a world that tells us we should not exist.

Trans Day of Visibility provides us with an opportunity to recognize these community members while also taking a moment to increase awareness and education about the experiences of our trans community. Our country has made great strides in advancing gender equity, but there still is much work to be done to increase equity for trans people. With this resolution today, the County of Santa Barbara is affirming our support for our trans community members and recognizing the ways that trans people are making a positive impact in our community by leading with authenticity, courage and pride. Thank you all for being here today and thank you Kathy especially.

CommentKathy AbbottProposedself-stated14:37

So I'd love to say a few words. Can everybody hear me? This is the first meeting I've been to in a couple of years, literally it's always on Zoom so good morning everyone. I'm Kathy Abbott and one of the co-founders of Santa Barbara Transgender Advocacy Network from the bottom of our hearts we are so grateful that you are issuing a resolution for transgender day of visibility on behalf of our transgender and gender nonconforming communities here in town Our son came out about seven years ago at the age of 14, and we did not know what to do when we found out we had a transgender child. So within a week I went off to a PFLAG meeting—Parents and Families of Lesbians and Gays here in town—went into a room of a bunch of parents. None of them had a transgender child.

About 20 minutes later in walked two parents who would change our lives forever. One of the parents was talking about wanting to form a support group for parents. I was like, hold on. I don't know. I have to wrap my head around this. I don't know what I'm doing here. And from there on out we were forming bonds with the school system, helping meet with Dr. Cash, the superintendent, doing all these wonderful trainings and stuff like that.

There are so many fantastic, flourishing transgender and gender nonconforming people in our community now. I just cannot imagine our town being not having this organization and so many of the other organizations again Pacific Pride Foundation, PFLAG, UCSB's Resource Center for Sexual and Gender Diversity, House of Pride and Equality, Just Communities, Planned Parenthood. There are so many others as well. We are also interconnected and we would not be who we are without all of these organizations. Some of the things that SVTAN has done is talk to over 500 families over the last seven years. We worked with a school district to add chosen name and pronouns to their software and help create gender-neutral restrooms at Dos Pueblos High School and so many other things.

We don't know where we would be without SVTAN and all these other wonderful organizations. If anyone is interested in attending a parent support group, please do have them reach out to me. And also for those of you on the call today on Zoom or here in the room, please do consider getting involved in one of your LGBTQ plus organizations in the community. We need everyone's support. Thank you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6716:47

Thank you for being here.

CommentEileen RandallProposedself-stated16:57

I'm Eileen Randall. I'm also a board member in SB TAN. I am the mother of two young adults who were born at Cottage and raised in this community They're now in their 20s one is trans one is non-binary And I feel they're alive today just because of the support of these groups SBTAN, Civic Pride, they went to youth group meetings there and the support that I received as a mother in our family.

On NPR this week, there was an article about how politicized the non-trans legislation has become. And the numbers were 108 bills, anti-trans bills especially aimed at children mostly have been introduced in 38 states in only the last three months Some are trying to make it a felony for families and doctors to provide gender affirming care for their children.

Idaho's bill could result in a life sentence for giving permission for children to have hormone therapy, and there really are no words to describe how devastating this climate is for all trans children's adults and their families to hear of these laws being passed across the country. And that's why I'm very grateful and would like to thank the Board of Supervisors of Santa Barbara County, to show their support for our families by recognizing Trans Day of Visibility this year. It's very much appreciated by all of us. Thank you.

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PresenterBarbara ParmetSURGE Santa BarbaraProposedself-stated18:37

Thank you, Board. My name is Barbara Parmet and I'm speaking on behalf of SURGE Santa Barbara, showing up for racial justice. We educate and organize mostly white folks on how to work for racial justice. SURGE is in total support for the resolution in honor of Transgender Day of Visibility We support our transgender and whole LGBTQ plus community because there can be no racial justice if there's no understanding of the power dynamics of white supremacy and patriarchy, the main systems of oppression and violence.

By understanding how our white culture of domination is violent at a personal level as well as in a larger cultural context we can begin to see why we need to stand up and show up for our family and friends in the queer community. The term intersectionality is a new term not everyone understands. It is a helpful way of looking at how our movement for social change is not just about race, it is about homophobia, transphobia, ableism, and misogyny as well as hatred of our earth and all the riches it provides We stand with our transgender family specifically today in order to celebrate joyfully as a whole family, working together in solidarity. We celebrate you because you are us. Thank you.

CommentTyson Hall-SethProposedself-stated20:20

I'm Tyson Hall-Seth from Pacific Pride Foundation and I just want to congratulate SPTAN on the incredible work they've done educating, advocating for and celebrating the transgender community. And thank you to all of you!

CommentTony FlanaganProposedself-stated20:44

My name is Tony Flanagan and I'm also a board member of SB10. When my very young children, first my son and then a few months later my daughter came out, I had no idea what to do or where to go. By chance I met Kathy at a school meeting and with their support I was able to really understand my children to help guide them to get the resources they needed to get them a pediatrician that would support them and just to get support for myself and my family.

Unfortunately, it is still a problem within Santa Barbara right now the harassment of trans non-binary and gender nonconforming children and adults. My children have experienced this at school And it is something that is continuing to happen. And so I am so thankful that you are standing up and standing by the trans, non-binary and gender nonconforming community because my family and many other families will benefit from this. Thank you very much.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6722:17

Thank you, Supervisor Williams.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed22:22

Well, we know that growing up can be a gauntlet and that schools can be a cruel place. And so for me this is all about saving lives. It's all about making sure that our youth are regardless of their identity and their choices have the support from the community to be able to live when we see just a great high incidence of depression and suicide among this population. So, to me it's about something even more basic the ability for us to ensure that our young people make it to adulthood. Thank you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6723:17

Supervisor Hart did you have an additional comment?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed23:21

I just want to thank everybody who spoke today. This is really an important part about raising awareness in our community for all the wonderful people who are now visible in a way that should be normal and natural, and a regular part of everybody's experience in our community. And this is an aspirational moment we want to achieve all the things that all the speakers spoke so eloquently about, and this is a small step and important It's symbolic and shows our commitment and the fact that we're speaking to this issue directly is an important day. So thank you all for coming and participating today.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6724:01

Madam Clerk, turning to administrative item number 45 would you read that into the record please?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role24:07

Chair Hartman and members of the board, administrative item number 45 is sponsored by Supervisor Williams and Supervisor Hart. It is to adopt a resolution proclaiming the month of March 2022 as American Red Cross Month in Santa Barbara County and joining us in person today we have Eric McCurdy. And Eric if you can please join us at the podium and I'll go ahead and read the resolution into the record.

Whereas in 1881, Clara Barton founded the American Red Cross turning her steadfast dedication for helping others into a bold mission of preventing and alleviating people's suffering. Today more than 140 years later we honor the kindness and generosity of Red Cross volunteers here in Santa Barbara County who continue to carry out Clara's life-saving legacy. And whereas in times of crisis people in Santa Barbara County come together to care for one another This humanitarian spirit is part of the foundation of our community and is exemplified by American Red Cross volunteers who donate their time, give blood or learn vital life-preserving skills through the Red Cross.

And whereas in Santa Barbara County the contributions of local Red Cross volunteers give hope to the most vulnerable in the darkest hours whether it's providing emergency shelter Food and comfort for families devastated by local disasters like home fires. Donating essential blood for accident and burn victims, heart surgery and organ transplant patients, and those receiving treatment for leukemia, cancer or sickle cell disease.

Supporting service members and veterans along with their families and caregivers through the unique challenges of military life. Helping to save the lives of others with first aid, CPR and other skills or delivering international humanitarian aid. And whereas we dedicate this month of March to all those who continue to advance the noble legacy of American Red Cross founder Clara Barton who lived by her words you must never think of anything except the need and how to meet it.

We ask others to join in this commitment to give back in our community. Now, therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors do hereby proclaim March 2022 as American Red Cross Month and urges residents of Santa Barbara County to become partners in preparedness with our Santa Barbara County Red Cross chapter and act as active participants in advancing the humanitarian mission of the American Red Cross passed and adopted today.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6726:36

Supervisor Williams.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed26:38

Well, I just think that if you look at the research done on natural disasters that you find that people basically lose interest after a certain amount of time after these disasters and that's where crucial preparedness gets dropped and so number one I want this to be an opportunity to remind folks that sometimes the most important time is when there's no disaster, in terms of what kind of efforts a community takes for resilience.

What kind of support nonprofits get to be ready to come in and help, and what we do as individuals to just prepare. Just like the basics, food, water, you know, an oversized wrench for your gas line, to shut off your gas line and so forth. These are the kinds of things that we need to pay attention to because History should show us that We don't have a natural disaster right now, but we will so we need to be prepared and We appreciate all of the incredible organizations that we see in town Helping us with this preparedness partnering with county and today. We want to honor the American Red Cross for their role

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed28:14

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6728:16

Supervisor hard

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed28:17

Yeah, and I just want to thank the Red Cross volunteers and all the people who do step up for our community the way Supervisor Williams described. And also recognize our county employees who are all disaster workers. You know when these events occur everybody's all hands on deck and we have a lot of retirements happening today there's a bunch of folks who are being recognized for many many years of County service And I do wanted to specifically mention a couple that I know, John Fry and Maureen Spencer in the Public Works Department. I've been just hand-in-hand with the American Red Cross through all the disasters that we've experienced together and they will be sorely missed as county employees but this is a great opportunity to kind of wrap them into celebration of the Red Cross too so thank you for being here today

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed29:05

I wanted to thank the members of the board for this opportunity to speak. I know you extended this invitation to our regional CEO, Tony Briggs who was unfortunately double booked today again and so he asked me to step in and speak on his behalf. I'm a longtime volunteer with the Red Cross here. And March is a very important month where we do take time to honor the people who make the Red Cross mission, the humanitarian mission possible.

This began nearly 80 years ago under then President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who declared Red Cross Month in March of 1943 and it has been renewed every single year under every single president since then and as a long-time resident of Santa Barbara County and a longtime Red Cross volunteer I'm very happy to see that the county of Santa Barbara is stepping up and acknowledging this as well.

So thank you very much for this opportunity.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6730:15

Thank you for being here. Madam Clerk, item number 46.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role30:23

Chair Hartman and members of the board our final resolution today is administrative item number 46 this is sponsored by Supervisor Lavinino it is to adopt a resolution proclaiming March 24th 2022 as word to Brooke Tuberculosis Day in Santa Barbara County and receiving this in person. Today, we have Dr. Vondo Renoso our Public Health Director, Dr. Henning Ansorg our Health Officer, Paige Batson our Deputy Director of Community Health and Karen White supervising public health nurse.

And I will go ahead and read the resolution into the record Whereas on March 24, 2022 in observance of World Tuberculosis Day the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department joins the global effort of this year's theme Invest to End TB Save Lives. And whereas TB is a preventable disease yet many in our community including infants children and pregnant women still suffer.

Cases in Santa Barbara County have increased to a total of 25 cases in 2021, representing a case rate of 5.14 over California's target rate of 4.6. And whereas disease control TB staff will focus on recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic and prioritize outreach to vulnerable communities whose access to health care have been most interrupted. And whereas the County of Santa Barbara is committed to eliminating TB and actively engaging with providers, healthcare agencies, local partners especially those serving at risk populations in our community to promote preventative and early diagnosis of TB.

And whereas the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department congratulates Karen E. White on her retirement and exemplary work in leading TB prevention and control efforts, and successfully managing TB outbreaks and complex drug-resistant treatments and investigations for well over two decades. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors does hereby proclaim March 24th 2022 as World Tuberculosis Day in Santa Barbara County Passed and adopted today.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6732:37

Dr. Dory knows so.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role32:39

Good morning, Chair Hartman and members of the board. As you are aware, the TB control program is a key mandate and function of the local health department. I have led three public health departments and have reviewed numerous TB programs throughout California and have to say that Santa Barbara County operates an outstanding TB control program. Huge kudos to Dr. Ansorg, Ms. Paige Batson and supervising public health nurse Karen White for their leadership and to our team in the community health and at our five healthcare centers and three homeless shelters clinics for their tireless work to protect the health of Santa Barbara County by containing and preventing a spread of TB.

In particular I'd like to acknowledge Ms. White's dedication to her team, her work in supporting their case investigation, case management and treatment efforts. In addition, Ms. White's innovation in managing the process has transformed how we case manage our active cases and we hope to publish the model as a best practice in the near future. Huge applause and appreciation for Karen for all her years in the TB program.

GuestLavininoProposed · by introduction34:10

Chair Hartman and members of the board, I would like to take this opportunity of World TB Day to recognize the significant accomplishments of our tuberculosis expert supervising public health nurse Karen White. Karen has been the backbone of our local tuberculosis program for many years She has trained and mentored countless nurses, physicians, hospital infection control specialists and health educators.

And she has made sure that all TB patients in Santa Barbara County receive optimal tuberculosis care. She has been instrumental in limiting further spread of TB disease in our area. Unfortunately for us she's now going into well-deserved retirement Karen, please know you will be missed greatly. Thank you for your service to our communities and would you please remain available for those tricky questions nobody else can answer?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed35:22

Thank you very much, all of you. I've been very fortunate to have had a job that I truly love those that know me very well and know my passion for the disease control program. I've also worked with many wonderful and dedicated staff and internal employees within the public health department and even our external partners in other providers and also other agencies And what really motivates me have been the patients, especially our vulnerable patients that we serve.

I hope you have time when you're after the meeting to look at our data. I've been here a long time and I've seen the many advances in TB that have just been so exciting to early diagnosis and early prevention, and we want to continue our efforts. We're able to secure a health educator who is now dedicating herself, boots on the ground, to going out to the vulnerable populations and educating them and empowering them to get screen tested and to take short term regimens to prevent active TB.

And so, I know that it's going to continue. We're already aware of other advances that are coming through and at the end of the day, I'm very grateful to have worked for the health department and my message to everyone is just to continue to make a difference to our patients in our community. Thank you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6736:53

That's wonderful advice. So we're now turning to general public comment. Madam Clerk, do we have any members of the public who'd like to speak on items not on today's agenda?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role37:12

Chair Hartman and members of the board, yes, we have one request to speak on general public comment and that is Dr. Amy Smith. And we will go to Zoom for Dr. Amy Smith. Amy.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed37:29

Good morning, Chair Hartman, supervisors I wanted to speak about the comment made two weeks ago by Supervisor Das Williams in response to a comment in public comment where a speaker was saying to kill Russians. He suggested people could donate to a charity, Das Williams did not the speaker that buys ammunition and things for the Ukrainian military and I'm very concerned about the level of investigation and knowledge that he has about this conflict, and taking time to advocate for this in our county meeting when we have a lot of pressing issues here in our own county. And of course, when you take action without adequate information, you have the potential to be causing more harm, and you also have the potential to be participating in evil. So it's very important to be informed, fully informed when you make decisions and advocate other people send bullets to kill people that you know what's happening in a conflict.

And if you don't have the time and the resources to get up to speed then you should remain silent. And so I strongly encourage people to understand that our society is going through a transformation where voices that disagree are being suppressed through social media, through social pressure And through the mainstream media as had been happening already for a long time. But if you would like to understand more about the roots of this conflict in the Ukraine, I strongly recommend a talk that's had more than 21 million views by now by University of Chicago Professor John Mershammer called Why is the Ukraine the West's Fault? And it explains the provocative acts that the United States and NATO an organization that has invaded several countries Libya, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia.

Their actions escalated this conflict and as Spigny Brzezinski said of the conflict in Afghanistan he said we led the Soviets into an Afghan trap well once again the US and NATO have led Russia into a trap in Ukraine and so to end a conflict you need to understand the roots of the conflict And what the solution is to stop NATO expansion, it's not to arm people in a very vulnerable state who will be slaughtered. It's not nice to fight to the last Ukrainian for something that was completely preventable by our government is actually you know I say participating evil so I would encourage people to look more into this A diverse group of speakers have said that this is the predictable outcome from Henry Kissinger to Noam Chomsky, Jeffrey Sachs, John Matlock.

Many many people

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6740:31

said-

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role40:35

And that concludes general public comment for today.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6740:37

Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed40:39

Well, since this public speaker continues to take pot shots at me for trying to convince another public speaker not to ship arms directly but instead take part in legitimate ways to give money to support the country of Ukraine's resistance. I will answer simply because I am in dismay to see public comment being used by folks of our political fringes, and frankly both political fringes not just the right but the left as well.

Who have bought into the Kremlin's line of reasoning and continue to? state historical mistruths And and seem to think that history began somewhere in the 1990s I am well aware of the history. I'm well aware of the history of subjugation by the Russian Empire, of the Cossack tribes of the area. I'm well aware of the invasion by Red Forces after the October Revolution, the brutal suppression of Ukrainian independence after the Russian Revolution and the even more brutal Human made famine of forced collectivization in which Russian Soviets caused millions to die in Ukraine.

And then fast forward to that this place then being You know, people in this country or elsewhere buying into the Kremlin's line of reasoning that these people just decided to separate from Russia recently. This is a unique place with its own identity. It has many Russian speakers but those Russian speakers have made a very sharp shift in public opinion especially since 2014 and the failed statelets that Russia helped establish in Donbass and Luhansk. And so public opinion among Russian speakers in Ukraine was divided back then, it is not divided now. They do not want to be part of Putin's rebuilding of the Russian Empire or rebuilding of the Soviet Union however you want to view it and I think it is perfectly patriotic on any American's part to want to help the Ukrainians defend our way of life.

You know, we are people that has a special history But sometimes our commitment to our own democratic ideals is not yet, I would argue is not yet proven. And so if Americans choose to support the Ukrainian government with their funds, I highly encourage it and in fact Because of this public comment, I'll repost those charities today on my Facebook because frankly those people in Keeve need our help and they don't just need our help just with humanitarian aid. They need our help to defend themselves.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6744:18

Turning to departmental item number one, Madam Clerk would you read that into the record please?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role44:24

Chair Hartman and members of the board, departmental item number one is from the county executive office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a status report on criminal justice partners improvement efforts.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6744:36

CEO Miyasato

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role44:40

Good morning Chair Hartman and board members. Today we're here with our regular update on the work of the Justice Partners. On Zoom with me is retired Judge Cheryl Ellsworth who's been working with the county to help us coordinate efforts, and I also want to thank Nicole Parmalee from my office who has been helping as our analyst overseeing this. Next slide, thank you. So just some background as you know that we've had regular criminal justice staff reports to your board and the last update was in November and I said we've been assisted by retired Judge Cheryl Ellsworth and we've developed a tracker, Criminal Justice Initiatives Tracker that she will review with your board that talks about our achievements or progress.

Today's report will talk about some of those ongoing efforts Of discussion of five initiatives that were deferred or removed from the tracker and nine initiatives that are on the tracker still. And with that, I'm going to hand it over to Judge Ellsworth.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed45:43

Thank you very much. I appreciate so much this opportunity to report back to you, Madam Chairman and the rest of the board. It has been quite a fun ride this last little bit before I've come back to report to you. Some important things have taken place So in terms of our work, I will have to tell you that the last time we reported we were in the throes of things. Throes trying to figure out what is the best way to go forward with getting ourselves out of silos and into some collaboration that would make a difference. So come with me on that journey that we've been going through for The background is essentially this, that our criminal justice departments constitute about 23% of your operating budget. We've had ongoing attempts to work at the core of what significant changes can be made that will alter the state of the criminal justice system to improve and to be enhanced There has been a lot of changes and struggles, and I say putting our fingers in the dike with COVID.

But we still are working on some pretty important things. Last time we had divided the tracker into three buckets and tried to align those improvements into those buckets transparency equal justice community solutions for public safety. Those three buckets are significant and I'm going to go ahead and turn it back over to you. Thank you so much. So we've been working on this for a long time. Charging orders if you will, but we found out discovered that each of the different initiatives or improvements parts and pieces within each of these so that one item does not lie in just equal justice that So we want to focus on some strategic opportunities for improvement. We, as you will recall had a kind of a shotgun approach the last time we reported trying to gather all the things that we thought were important and now we've been able to refine that to things that are doable and responsible and are making significant changes.

We eliminated or at least eliminated for now Five of those improvements treatment courts, the advocacy services thrive mandatory settlement conferences virtual arraignment courts. And the reason we did is that some of these issues are significant and we may look at them in the future but quite frankly some of them are no longer relevant for inclusion and they also rely on external entities. So we want to make sure that we can control what we have under our control next slide please.

So we've provided you with a tracker and these are in priority level. So what we did previously, as I indicated was to put things in buckets and instead now we have prioritized them and given you, I believe, a very good informational as to where we are how things are going and what our roadblocks and what we need to achieve still and those that we have achieved things in In our estimation, elevated now above diversion and above some other issues is that access to incarcerated clients. We are working as a team very hard on this because without access to the incarcerated clients it is near impossible to do the work that we want to do with reducing jail populations with early intervention With being able to help the courts by reducing continuances.

And so this piece is at the forefront of our minds, we are meeting actively in small groups with those that can make decisions and continue to work with and wrestle with these issues and very much appreciate the hard work of everyone. Discovery is key to that as well. We have come before, and I have to tell you, I believe there's a sea change. I want to reach out to and indicate the public defender and the district attorney have worked very, very hard that discovery is coming on board sooner and offers are being made. That's why it's so important that we get that access to the clients. And I find that Even though we wrestled a lot that we are getting a lot of cooperation with between the Public Defender's Office and the DAs. And that's no small feat because there's such a deluge of cases and backlog, that these both of these entities are burdened down with the number of cases are in your area.

Multidisciplinary teams, this is really key I'm going to go into it a little bit more in a moment shared alternative sentencing pre-trial supervised release data dashboard holistic defense diversion and resolving age cases so this to us are really set our sights on complete these things move on to other issues next slide please So access to incarcerated clients, at first we thought this was just getting laptops into the jail.

We've had multiple roadblocks with COVID breakouts in the main jail. It has been very complicated to be able to get individuals moved. The court has been wonderful about working with us in these resolutions with the sheriff and with probation. public defender and the DA's office, we need to continue working on this. We are working on things like taking a look at how many warrants are outstanding and what we can do to resolve those warrants that fall within safe parameters to look at some kind of a program to resolve them so they don't go into jail again. This access is key to being able to To work on the overall criminal justice improvements. Without it, we don't have the ability to resolve things early. We don't have the ability to resource people out to things that would be better programs for them and we are continuing to work on a coordinated transparent plan for This dependable confidential and standardized access protocols, which means some work on being able to schedule the time by themselves without having to go through individuals through a scheduler at the jail.

And also the ability to know what is available, what time and what are those Zoom rooms dedicated to? And when does the court take priority This is seems like it would be an easy fix. It is not and we are grappling with it, but it is at the forefront and it's clearly important to us for access to justice next slide. This was provided by the sheriff's department and I will say that we are working really hard on taking that 2022 and 2023 prediction, and changing that line completely and trying to reduce what is going on in the jail like I mentioned we're looking at warrants Improvement of programs and resources that will assist in that. So, that shows a trajectory that has been provided to us but we are ever at the forefront of our mind along with that access is to reduce the jail population next slide.

Discovery is we have worked really hard I have to have a shout out both to Sarah Gill and Nicole who has come on as well. This discovery process that we started with, as just the idea of hey we need to Figure out a better way to do discovery. You've got body worn cameras coming up, you've got files you're handing over CDs and the sheriff department along with the district attorney's office and public defender's office and all of the departments probation have worked tirelessly. And at times we were arm wrestling I'm going to be really honest with you it wasn't easy We took people through steps of a program that took time away from their busy schedules because of so many cases that they're dealing with. But by integrating InnovateSBC, a program that we have required everybody to go through, we have actually come about to a point where we are in the throes of an RFP, looking at two things that are clearly important to us.

That technology is not the be-all answer process and technology together so we are looking at and have formatted Our process and continue to work at that. I love to be able to report to you that we had 31 action items, 13 of those are completed within this InnovateSBC and 18 are in progress and ongoing though they're not stalled they're tracking exactly where we need them to be it is my hope that um we will be able to show the board in the very near future a recommendation for not only the technology but formatting of what the process will be for that to improve. Again, I have to tell you a shout out again for the hard work that and I appreciate specifically I don't want to call out anyone but I'm going to John Savarnak and LaMere and Tracy and these folks have been working very hard at getting discovery quicker to the DA and offers and making a real difference in your county next slide please All right, this is really important and I'm going to take a moment here to talk about the multidisciplinary team.

I want to read to you the description and the purpose because we had a lot of different names on this but Really passing over if I didn't acknowledge that a terrible incident happened in your community very recently and that it will be very easy for people to say, oh the system failed us again. A murder happened somebody that shouldn't have been out was out and I am here to tell you that before you jump to the conclusions that a system failed you As you deconstruct what occurred in that specific incident, it's super important to peel the onion all the way back and see what happened and why decisions were made and how we can improve on those. It does no good for any of us to just shout a system has failed this new multidisciplinary team that has been worked at very hard and already been funded and ready to rock and roll essentially is exactly what we need to even throw We have a larger safety net around the things that can happen in a community if we don't have the right staffing, the right individuals for the right job.

So this multi-agency assessment case planning and reentry coordinator is the person to be hired. And I would just like to read to you and get in the weeds just a hair so that everybody understands what this is. Through collaboration amongst the partner agencies and the leadership of the coordinator, which is that position to be filled. Santa Barbara County will ensure individuals entering the jail receive multi-agency assessments and case planning that will assist in successful release at the earliest stage possible based on Real facts, their risk and needs and the statutorily available options. This approach will assist in ensuring all diversionary options are maximized and individuals exiting the jail at all stages pre trial and post sentence have a more robust discharge plan and a warm handoff as appropriate.

The work will interface work performed by multiple agencies including probation, the Sheriff's Office, the Public Defender's Office and the Discharge Planning team. When you have that in place You are working within the category of promising processes and at really state-of-the-art. Next slide, please. Shared alternative sentencing pilot, we've been working on this very hard and I have to shout out to both the sheriff and probation. We are in the finalizing of that. This is going to be one of the first that we can find in California where we really look at the opportunity to have the best individuals doing the best job. The sheriff retains their legal authority while they're being assisted in the field by those individuals in probation. That are equipped to do supervision very, very proud of this hard work.

We've again like I said the last time we reported we were shooting the blasting out there the different things we could possibly do and now we're actually coming to fruition on some of these next slide please. I would say, without a doubt that our pre-trial supervised release has been a great success. That has grown now to 574 supervised clients as of March 1.

I can say that it's remarkable and it's due to the hard work of your partners. Next slide. The data dashboard is going forward and not only is it going forward and working at a, an ability to refresh daily. It's up on the sheriff's it's up on the probation, both the da and the PD are doing their own dashboards, not to the exclusion of this dashboard, but everybody's working very hard at transparency Accountability. We will improve on the dashboard as we develop and also I think what's really clear now that we've got the technique, the talent of probation who has prepared this for us as well as the initiative of other departments is that we have to complete Get our consensus on data points, definitions and we will work with you Board of Supervisors because we want to know what data points you want.

And we want to know how we can define those so that we're all speaking in the same language. I'll give you an example. We don't want to place perhaps a diversion and call a treatment court diversion when it's legally not A diversion program. It's a different kind of program, but some people see that as being diverted from the regular incarceration pattern so we want to make sure that our vernacular are glossary or data points are all those that you want as well as what would be interesting to the public and also in our buckets, the public safety, the trans transparency excuse me an accountability next slide please.

I would have to say that the holistic defense is a huge success. This is now when you look at the tracker as well as this quick point from that, you can see that at the bottom line there 94% appeared in court for their next scheduled court date. That along with all the other percents are pretty amazing. 73% connected with substance abuse treatment, 75% mental health services, 73% released and community support supportive services. This kind of idea along with that multi-agency assessment along with discovery along with these protocols that your teams have been working very Next slide, please.

Diversion, we are continuing to work with the court on emboldening their opportunity and choices to do judicial diversion that lies directly with the courts. Probation has been masterful at setting that up and assisting us. These are really pre-filing off ramps so when you use the diversion as a word it is a term of art Restorative justice offers a wide range of benefits for our community and offenders, and I'm working with and getting information from John Savernack on behalf of the district attorney's office. He is actively meeting with as the district attorney With NTT AC to get funding and timelines. So we have two things here that are we're working stridently with and that is the neighborhood restorative justice program, and also the pilot program of felony diversion.

Next slide. This is ongoing and I don't have much to report on it. We've had COVID outbreaks, we've had all kinds of other things we're meeting on but we are finding that if we pull these aged cases and get the eyeballs of probation, the court, the DA and the PD these things are resolving. And so that's what we need to do with this is continue to resolve this. Next slide please.

So we have future goals, and that is to the allocation of the funding set aside for data and discovery efforts to put that to good use also to create an institutionalized an access plan that is sustainable and ongoing. We need to know when People have access to their clients in a private manner, and that's this access to incarcerated individuals. We have to have that where everybody can look to something on a computer or in their hand and say oh I can go see my client in this room at this jail at this time and that it is almost automatic. And that is something that we're all putting efforts into and working very hard at I think once we get this multidisciplinary case management team together, you're going to find some massive changes and maintain a positive working relationship with the courts.

I have to say that Angela Braun is coming to our meetings and helping us and working these things through and continuing to be I want to say thank you to all of the people that have been working on this and open minded individual that is assisting us in many ways we appreciate that as well as. Of course, the P J and Mister Parker we will focus on technology but I want to tell you that you we are focusing on continuing to improve our processes which need help Where they kept their CDs so that they could more quickly get discovery to someone and that was part of a small change kind of like atomic habits. I don't know if you know about it, but 1% changes bring about great things in the future next file next file listen to me next slide please.

So in summary, the criminal justice collaboration work continues. Sometimes we are at odds and we wrestle other times we come to consensus after that and we are always thoughtful and respectful partners meet twice a month to work on these and track progress. It's been made in lots of areas It's not understating the systematic change takes time and commitment. We'd love to come back to you in 90 to 100 days with a status update I have in house for you and on zoom all of your leaders to be able to chat with you or answer any questions next slide.

And here are recommendations that you receive this report providing direction that And we are working very hard. We'd like you to direct the staff to have us come back and that he is that determination that needs to always be made. Next slide please. All right, and as I've indicated, I'm happy to answer questions but truly we have the department heads here to answer questions. I thank you for this opportunity. It is a pleasure and I hand it over to you. Thank you

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:05:55

Thank you Judge Ellsworth, and maybe you could help us with who we should direct questions to. Supervisor Hart?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:06:02

Yeah I just want to thank Judge Ellsworth for her presentation. The summary slide that talks about You know, how complicated and difficult this work is and celebrates the collaboration that's happening is really the key for I think our focus in the public's looking at this work. Making these kind of adjustments and shifting longstanding practices to be more collaborative and more thoughtful and more data driven It's not an easy task, but I'm really pleased by the commitment that all the criminal justice partners are making. We have a district attorney, Dudley and John Savernock working hand-in-hand with Theresa Makuga at the Public Defender's Office. Sheriff Brown is engaged on these issues as well as Probation Chief Heitman. They're meeting very regularly twice a month tracking all these very complicated interrelated issues and making progress, and that systemic change takes time.

So we're committed to this. The board put $4.5 million of funding into this effort to advance improvements. And the reason being that 23% of our operating fund budget goes through the criminal justice space. That's a lot of money. It's a lot of taxpayer dollars. I think folks want to make sure that we're treating everybody fairly and that we're having a system that protects public safety and recognizes The serious consequences of all this work together so I'm pleased with the progress we're making. I know that the multiple disciplinary team, MDT is a big important next step and we need a coordinator for that work and we're working through the issues through the CCP and trying to come up with a way that we can fund that and maintain focus and I'm just pleased that we're making progress.

There obviously are issues that remain to be resolved, we had this horrific crime that occurred earlier this week and my sympathy goes out to the victim and her family. This is you know something that is not acceptable and I know everyone involved is working fast and hard you know to make sure that justice is served and that the system is able to make sure that an issue like that doesn't occur in the future

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:08:21

Supervisor Lavanino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.901:08:23

Thank you Madam Chair, well I echo everything Supervisor Hart just said. The problem for me is when we're out in the public and I'm trying to explain this to individuals those that probably before I got on the board Probably felt the same way without once we start analyzing the data and finding out really who's in jail, why they're in jail and how long they're in jail.

It's very confusing and so what can trigger a complete reversal of all the work that we're doing is an example of what we had this week. And so Judge Ellsworth did touch on it a little bit and said talking about pulling back the onion I'd like to kind of pull back that onion if it's okay to do that, because I'm going to have to answer questions out in the public.

And if we're going to be committed to this program when something like this does come up, we have to respond. So I don't know who or if it is too early to talk about it and we can talk about it at the next meeting But we do kind of have to know what some of the details were so that, you know, I can keep supporting the project.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:09:40

Supervisor Lavanino, I think what your feelings with a lot of us are feeling exactly the same way but I think it is too early and we would have to have conversations with our justice partners It's not just your department heads, it's also the courts and to get more involved to peel back the onion. But I know that overall we're all concerned about it and you know one of the things that we show is a reduction in jail population. I just want to remind everyone our goal is not to just reduce the jail population every criminal justice partner will say and believe and I've worked with them now for the last couple years There are people who need to be in jail your public defender will say that there are people who need to be in jail So that's not what this is about.

But we will We will get back to the board. We will unpeel the onion as Judge Sharla talked about and come back with some more information

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:10:31

Supervisor Nelson

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:10:32

Yes, thank you chair Hartman and I wasn't going to go there maybe until a little further but you know what happened in Santa Barbara. I hate to say that's just the regular weekday in Santa Maria and Lompoc so I don't want to put too much focus on that because we have two communities or the whole North County that's suffering from shootings and murders on a weekly basis. So I know it's going to get everybody's attention because it's down here in the south coast but this is the reality that our constituents, Steve and I's constituents are living with every day and yeah this the person that we're talking about right now had a ankle monitor on according to the news reports but I would be shocked if those perpetrators of crimes in North County aren't involved in this criminal justice system in some place these aren't first-time offenders and so I think all these, to boil it down, all these numbers that we're looking at are great numbers.

I'm a big fan of holistic defense and multidisciplinary teams. I think our county's been doing a great job even prior to this awakening on being progressive, compassionate and innovative. I think we're continuing to put attention on that and I think that's great but at the end of the day all these numbers mean nothing if our recidivism numbers don't go down because that is really what's gonna you know the rubber meets the road in our communities is when crime goes down so I don't care if we connect people to resources if they're not availing those resources and getting engaged in that So, I know we're talking about this specific issue and it does highlight the problem that exists. But this is a problem that existed prior to COVID. I know in some communities they didn't see crime go down when the jail population went down.

In my district it did. It went up considerably and continues to. And we have law enforcement partners that are overwhelmed, and this is something that we gotta get our arms around. Diversion is a good option. Jail is a bad investment. I totally believe that. Anybody in jail that does not belong in jail. The system did fail us but the system isn't gonna be perfect. That's the acknowledgement I think we all need to understand.

But we need to have diversion that in the day protects the public and the victims. And that's where I want to see those numbers get boiled down, and maybe that's a report annually on are these things working? In which programs do you work? Cuz I wanna put more money into something that's working. And so I think there is a sweet spot there as the five of us get behind cuz I think we're all on the same page here on making sure that we keep our communities safe.

I do have one question about the money. I know we made an investment of $4.5 million, was that a one-time investment? Or can you talk a little bit more about what the budgetary implications of that is and what are we looking forward to next year? This is this first year that we're kind of really making a concerted effort as justice partners.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:13:35

Supervisor Nielsen, some of it was one-time, some of it was ongoing. That was just the overall investment that the board made in the criminal justice department departments and funding some of their expansions and some of the things that needed to be done. On the data discovery issue, the board set aside some funding that Judge Ellsworth talked about that we are still going through a process And we'll be dispersing at the end of that process to see what's the best electronic solution for discovery, to speed that process and also to assist the departments who have or are facing overwhelming amounts of electronic discovery that they're having to review and sort through.

What we are on the budget side, my office is going through the budget reviews now with all our departments. Some significant requests from departments and so we will provide you as we always do at the budget workshops with all the requests and our recommendations.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:14:28

Okay, thank you for that. I'm really interested. I don't know if we're going to have a special item on this for budget hearings but I think it's obviously going to be integrated into our budget hearings as this touches so many different departments of the county and I'll be really interested in seeing where we can make targeted investments Again, help reduce recidivism and make our community safer.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:14:54

I did have a couple of questions myself and the first has to do with the multidisciplinary teams and holistic defense. And I would like to understand better how they differ.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:15:07

Public Defender McCook is here so maybe she can respond to that.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:15:12

And then my second question has to do just with a summary of where we are on restorative justice, and that may be Mr. Savarnak.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:15:20

Good morning Madam Chair, members of the board. Chief Heitman's not here and I wish she was so we could talk about the two multidisciplinary teams. There is one multi-disciplinary team that exists right now that this board is familiar with that has been engaged in working in our encampment strategies and our homeless outreach which has been extremely successful The second multidisciplinary team that is rooted in our CCP is rooted in addressing some of the problems we're talking about today, which is an upfront approach when an individual has been arrested and is incarcerated so we as a team could present better options to the judge, to the district attorney for release.

That's the distinction. They would work closely together because what you hope is when an individual is released, all of the support systems that are necessary especially for those complex clients will be followed and we'll see less recidivism, we'll see less tragedy, we'll see more success. What I like to talk about And I think Mr. Savarnak and the district attorney would agree is when we talk about diversion, we should divert for success not divert just for the sake of diverting.

So I hope that answers your question.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:16:37

So is holistic defense come after the team does like a diagnosis and then treatment or could you help me

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:16:44

understand the relationship? So we just practice holistic defense, our entire office. Clients that come in who need services are often assigned advocates. We are a multidisciplinary team organization. What you would hear from our partners including the district attorney is that my advocates work closely with All of the tentacles of the criminal justice system. We often will present to the district attorney regarding treatment options, we will present to the court treatment options. We will work with those clients in the field all of those teams work together. In fact my advocates worked closely with the multidisciplinary teams that are sort of set up separately within behavioral wellness, within our homeless community, within the MDT team that has been funded.

So we, our advocates are MDT by nature. Does that make sense? We're involved in everything.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:17:40

Okay. It helps and I mean, I saw how in homeless encampments effective the teams are and I really believe in it. My mother was a nurse at City of Hope and there decades ago they had multidisciplinary teams different physicians, nurses, social worker, financial to help people. Anybody in the medical system who's gone from one doctor to another to another to try to get a diagnosis knows how frustrating that can be so I really think the same is true with the criminal justice system and that to bring people together all of us is smarter than any one of us so I think that's...I really support that idea and I'm glad Maybe it's so many, it's now become a best practice. So I guess there are many different multidisciplinary teams. Supervisor?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:18:32

And I apologize and the great news is Chief Heitman is here from Sacramento on Zoom and I really would like her to talk about this issue too since it is really her brainchild as far as the MDT approach up front in the criminal justice system.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:18:47

Sure, Chief Heitman and then Supervisor Nelson

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:18:52

Chair Hartman, I'm actually not in Sacramento yet. I'm stuck at the LAX airport so I apologize for any problems with my sound or my video but in response to the question posed you know I see this multidisciplinary assessment team Under the leadership of a coordinator, it's really pulling the pieces together of some silos that currently are in existence that work with those exiting the jail as well as working with them and doing an assessment for those first being considered for pretrial or alternative sentencing program.

It's taking a medical model basically and investing resources in working together to make sure that we understand the individual's risk as well as needs. And we look at all of the different pieces that would need to be put in place to safely return them to the community. It's a little bit different than what Ms. Makuga and her team within our office are doing, as they're really looking at it as a strategy, Thank you that helps. Supervisor Nelson?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:20:25

Yeah, I know it's kind of a cliche these silos that we need to get out of that. We keep talking about that but you know we are embracing that which is great. You know I think I'm also big fan of holistic defense and I want to make sure I reiterated that. It's a good investment. At the end of day a lot of people are doing the same job. We have case managers.

Other people within social services, public health, behavioral wellness. All those pieces that touch somebody that's probably justice involved and so it's great I think what you guys are doing Tracy and thank you for being a leader on that. And I think that that's great that like you said your whole entire department is holistic defense. And that's not just a buzzword, that's an approach. It's a whole person approach knowing that it's not just the crime, it's what's led to that crime and so I think that's really important work you're doing. And I think that approach across the board in the county as we're dealing with those who are less fortunate and need engagement and help is going to go a long way.

I do like to hear from the district attorney's office and Mr. Sabinac at some point as well.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:21:31

Sure. I just wanted to follow on the holistic defense that the model, the measure of success is recidivism or not and you've done some research if I remember initially on your program so you might just remind us of that.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:21:51

Well, I think there's still a lot of unknown on the recidivism piece quite frankly. I'm not going to pretend to this board or anyone else that nationally what has been studied has proven that we reduce recidivism. What we do know and based on our study is that the clients that we served in this model returned less into the system and appeared more in the system, meaning when they were required to appear. We are building into our case management system because of Deepak Bidwani behind me those pieces to be able to report to this board. We recognize that recidivism is an important element of the criminal justice system. We believe although and only have anecdotally That it does in fact reduce recidivism. I think our data points show that, but now we have to connect those dots so I apologize that I can't give you more robust data but there will be data.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:22:45

And ballpark time two three years or longer?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed1:22:50

Mr. Budwani

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:23:00

Good morning, Madam Chairman. We are looking to build those data points within our case management systems currently to get at the information that Supervisor Nelson mentioned in regards to recidivism and so our goal is within the next 12-18 months that we're able to report on that data and get the feedback and continue making improvements and make sure that the information presented is providing the information that we need to all see. So

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:23:23

less than two years? Correct. Thank you. Any more questions for Public Defender? Mr. Savernoff.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:23:37

Chair Hartman, members of the board. A little bit about what we're discussing today when it comes to some of the programming. The Goleta Restorative Justice Program and that was a very conscious decision to take the word court out of there because it is not court. It is taking somebody and diverting them away from court in the traditional criminal justice system So that program being a restorative program, the effort in that is to take the people that participate and to make them part of the community.

They meet with the facilitator. In this case, the program is centered in Goleta when Supervisor Hart proposed the program he found a location willing, geographically centered enough and very enthusiastic about it. So the facilitators, the people that meet with the individual participants, the people that head the meetings Our community members, the panelists who ultimately will also be at a meeting with the participant and determine what restorative efforts they have to engage in are also members of the community. The entire goal is to have the person work to correct the wrong make restitution and also give them a sense Of community make them feel they are part of the area in which they live give them a sense of ownership.

in their own neighborhood and the jurisdiction in which they live. So, the concept of the restorative program and the concept of the felony diversion program which we will be developing, which we are working for the Center for Court Innovation assuming we can get budgetary issues on the federal level resolved These are not get out of jail free cards, quite the opposite. And our current overburdened criminal justice system with the cost and the expense of jail with burgeoning caseloads at the public defender's office, the DA's office probation Oftentimes some of the offenders who would participate in a diversion program or restorative program, if going through the traditional system would actually have significantly less involvement. Less to do, less effort put into it.

The people that participate in these programs for the benefit of not receiving a conviction, or in some cases not even having a record of a charge being levied The price they pay for that is effort. And the price they pay for that is dedication, so make no mistake that this is not a get out of jail free card and as regards to the RIPPIC incident that happened I'm...

That is a pending investigation, a pending case. Not at liberty to talk about it, but I can't say in every situation where something that horrific occurs that we at the DA's office always take a deep inward look. Looking at every step of the process, every step of the history. We will and are engaging that, but I can't say that that incident, the surrounding circumstances of that horror have nothing to do with any of the programs we've been discussing today.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:27:29

And I had a few follow-up questions and the first is the Goleta program is for adults. Is that correct? And it's a pilot that will be then expanded countywide so everyone would have that advantage

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:27:44

It is definitely an adult program. There is a coordinated effort with another group that is attempting to establish a restorative juvenile program working in coordination with probation. I am also involved on that committee, but this is an adult program and the The concept was based upon what the experience in Yolo County was. Once you establish the program, show its effect and effectiveness in that community then you have a formula to spread throughout the county.

Getting this program started with one full-time employee in the middle of a pandemic was a significant challenge. But as of now, all the program parameters, the program documents, the people that will train the trainers, the people that would train the facilitators and the panelists They are already in place. So once we have established the success of the program, moving it throughout the county will be significantly easier and as the felony diversion program gets implemented, we do a need study, we come up with a program then as the restorative program moves out countywide Then comes the opportunity to integrate aspects of that felony diversion into that program.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:29:21

And as we've discussed, I'm particularly interested in juvenile restorative justice and hope we'll see progress on that front. Supervisor Lovenino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.901:29:30

Thank you Madam Chair. So I guess what I'm struggling with is like Being out in the, when we're out in the public especially in North County. I mean it seems like it's a weekly thing now. We just had a situation where somebody was shot on Broadway at 7-Eleven 1900 South Broadway that's not in what some would consider a bad neighborhood or it's right there in downtown and so people come to me and they're what's going on? So if we say it has nothing to do with The policies, and I agree that it has nothing to do with the policies of us trying to kind of re-engineer the entire criminal justice system.

Does it have anything to do with what was done or is continuing to be done at the state level legislation? Or if it's not in your opinion, I would ask like what's wrong with us at this point? Like what's going on society where everybody's all of a sudden it's you know

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:30:33

drugs

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.901:30:33

yeah there's more There's more violent crime. It feels like

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:30:37

again, we are certainly waiting for conclusive data. We do have initial data initial reports from law enforcement is that violent crime is up? But there are several aspects to what we're doing to, quote, breaking the silos. And I would say I have for approximately 20 years been hearing the phrase at Board of Supervisors meetings about breaking the silos and this is the first time I've ever seen it occur.

And from a fiscal perspective, let's just ignore other issues from systemic fairness. From a fiscal perspective once you silo you have redundant systems. You have systems that don't communicate. It's for this board and this CEO's office to actually See how the various entities interact. So all that being said, there are cases that are beyond what we're talking about today.

District Attorney Dudley myself, the DA's office has always favored a cautious approach in evidence based approach and approach to programs that are based on Based on evidence and are thoughtful, but there are some crimes in their nature that from the perspective of the DA's office are beyond programming. Crimes of serious violence. Serious gang crimes murders weapons offenses shootings. There are some crimes that my office is not talking about incorporating into programming We do feel that the provisions of the penal code that actually send somebody to prison, oftentimes have the benefit of preventing further victimization. So there are things that occur that are so shocking and violent that we are not considering them part of programming.

So we are concerned what happens in Sacramento We are big advocates of transparency. We are big advocates of taking an inward look at statistics in what has occurred, but we need to get to the root cause of the problem once we get those statistics and there are times in Sacramento where there are situations where people who have committed very violent offenses are coming back into our communities So we can attempt to intercede. We can attempt to do programming, but some of it is beyond our control. Thank

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:33:38

you. Well I see no more lights up here. I think Mr. Savarnak said it all that he's seen silos addressed for 20 years and Our CEO and Judge Ellsworth are finally making inroads here, so it's much appreciated. Chair

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:34:02

Hartman I believe Judge Ellsworth had her hand up if you wouldn't mind calling her. Of course.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:34:08

I just wanted to add to that perspective because when you have violent crimes occur or, or any kind of crimes occur. We want answers we want to know why we want to know how could this have happened and how can we curtail this kind of behavior? I just want to indicate to you, I was on the bench for almost 20 years, and seen it all and had the opportunity to have these kind of horrible cases before me. What you're doing is really providing an opportunity, and I've used this phrase before and I apologize but it is that Harry Potter sorting hat by putting into place programs processes and protocols that run the gamut from access to discovery to diversion that allow and this MDT that allow The type of cases that are before you, the type of individuals, the criteria.

and the ability to attach to those individuals who are incarcerated certain protocols and way of dealing with it. You can take the lower hanging fruit, meaning those that are most able to benefit from resources applied to them through holistic approaches. And then you can give your very overwhelmed overworked DA and PD the opportunity to have more time with these Thank you so much for joining us.

Items to deal with if there's not a systematic way of dealing with them, then you can things do become ever more complicated when we are spending more time on. Doing a trial on a low level misdemeanor because we haven't been able to give them resources and independently made determinations that will help them. So I say by putting these very meaningful programs into place, by busting these silos up that you are going to give more time and more thoughtfulness and more opportunity to screen for these type of crimes.

Unfortunately, no matter what you do, no matter what system is in place there will always be aberrations but we certainly can address them with a clear conscience if you know that you're giving the right amount of time and processes and ability to take a look at this. And when I say to peel back the onion, I think that many times we can find that, oh wow, we blew it there Opportunities so that we can change and grow. Unfortunately, again my heart goes out to the family of the victim and the victims extended family but these are opportunities for us to put you in a better place to address those complicated and heinous crimes as well. So it's like a

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triage system

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:37:21

It really is, and I think that I really appreciate the leadership of Joyce and Tracy because they are really at that. They're at that pivot and like was said there is a holistic approach that is permeating all of the way that the public defenders dealing with things and District Attorney is working so well with trying to help us sort those. So they also have ample time to address those cases that should take more time and should have more effort given to them.

Supervisor Hart and then Supervisor Lavinino.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:37:58

Yeah, I think that Supervisor Lavinino really hit the nail on the head. You know what is it we're trying to communicate to members of the public who have concerns about public safety in our community? And I think that the answer we All of the criminal justice partners here in the room working together, collaborating on improving the system. And there's a tremendous commitment. of everybody engaged in the board as well, folks from the courts too.

And this is a sustained effort that we're resourcing with the right money and investment and we're looking at every incremental step that we're making. We're collecting data, we're refining that, we are making informed smart decisions about how to to make the system better and improve public safety. And the point, and the reason why is that virtually every person who enters the criminal justice system eventually comes back into the community, and we want that person to be in a better place to be a productive member of our community, and we want our communities safer as a result of that experience. And we can do better things. We can break down the silos where folks fall through cracks. We can provide the resources to help that person get back on track.

We can punish that person and teach them a lesson when they commit a heinous crime, and they deserve to spend time in prison. And all of these things are complex and require a strategy and willing partners to work together to make things better, and we're just really fortunate to have that. and to have this process, and to get regular reports on their work together. And as long as we stay committed to that and the partners stay committed to that I'm really confident that we're going to end up with a much improved system that folks who live here who ask that question directly of us will have a clear answer too.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:39:47

Supervisor Lavanino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.901:39:49

Thank you. And I want to just thank Judge Ellsworth. That really helped me. That piece he gave me about reprioritizing and where we really spend our time energy and money And so I want to thank you for that. And I want to thank all the justice partners, as was said. We've talked about this for a long time since I've been on the board and this is the first time we're actually getting to the meat and potatoes. And I can't wait for the two years down the road when we look back and we'll be able to look at numbers and say how well it has improved. So thank

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:40:21

you. Madam Clerk, any public comment?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:40:25

Chair Hartman and members of the Board, we have no request to speak on this item.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:40:29

Okay, I guess we're ready for a motion. I just wanted to say so we'll be back in 90 to 120 days To hear more and I think that what people have heard is that this board is 100% behind this effort and Delighted with the progress so far Supervisor Williams,

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:40:53

I move items or a through e second

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:40:58

And all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously, thank you Departmental item number two. Madam Clerk, will you read that into the record please?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:41:15

Chair Hartman and members of the board departmental item number two is from the planning and development department It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Steiner appeal of the Rufino tentative parcel map case numbers 21 APL 78 and 20 TPM 3 And this is in the fourth district and as previously noted earlier The department has submitted additional revised recommendations to withdraw this item today

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:41:42

Director Plowman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:41:46

Madam Chair, members of the Board, Ms. Alexander represented that item well. We are happy to share with the board that there was an arrangement worked out between the appellant and the applicant and so we are requesting or the applicant and appellate are requesting that the item be withdrawn from the board's agenda today. Happy to answer any questions.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:42:10

Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:42:11

Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:42:11

Yes, thank you Chair Hartman. Director Plowman so does that mean that it's withdrawn at that point then the project is now approved or the lot line adjustment?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:42:21

Madam Chair, Supervisor Nelson, that's correct.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:42:24

Thank you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:42:26

And Madam Clerk is there any public comment on the item of withdrawal exclusively?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:42:33

Chair Hartmann

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:42:33

and

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:42:33

members of the board we have no request to speak on this item.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:42:38

Supervisor Nelson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:42:39

In that case, I will go ahead and move this item. Recommended actions A through C provided by the clerk of the board and I want to correct it's a parcel map not a lot line adjustment so I want to make sure I know what I'm talking about. So I move Item 2A-C. Second.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:42:57

All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously. So we will take a 10 minute break and then come back for our appeal item The Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors, March 15th board of supervisors meeting here in the Santa Barbara hearing room. Turning to departmental item number three. Madam Clerk would you read that into the record please? Chair Hartman

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:57:37

and members of the board departmental item number 3 is from the planning and development department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the applicant's appeal of the Montecito Planning Commission deemed denial of the Hawker-Philippides lot line adjustment, case number 20 APL3, and this is in the first district.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:57:56

And do any board members have ex parte communications to share? Supervisor Lavinino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.901:58:03

Thank you Madam Chair so I've made two visits to the property, one four or five years ago, I believe. And then one two weeks ago and met with Ms. Filippides, walked the property and I also had a meeting with her council a couple of years ago on the issue as well.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:58:27

And Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:58:30

I met with the neighbor's appellants last week via Zoom and also did a site visit last Thursday with the applicant and her attorney.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:58:42

Supervisor Hart?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:58:44

Yes, I did a site visit with Ms. Filippides on March 9th. She showed me the lot and described the project.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:58:52

And Supervisor Nielsen.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:58:54

Thank you, Chair Hartman I had a meeting about seven years ago as staff with Ms. Felpides when the county was considering the certification of compliance from Surveyor's Office and then I met two weeks ago on March 1st where I walked the property and met with Ms. Felpides.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:59:13

And I met with The applicant and her attorney on February 24th, and we walked the property and we discussed the difference between a lot split and a lot line adjustment. With that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:59:31

Director Plowman. Madam Chair, members of the board. Today you have an item before you that was a decision by the Montecito Planning Commission. They voted in January of 2020 to deny the lot line adjustment application That action was appealed by the applicant, Ms. Philippides and today we have staff here to make the presentation. Staff is recommending that the board uphold the appeal. We have Nicole Liu, Supervising Planner, Willow Brown, a planner on the project and Travis Seward's Deputy Director here to answer any questions that the board has today. So with that I'd like to turn it over to staff for the presentation.

CommentWillow BrownProposedself-stated2:00:18

Good morning, Ms. Chair and members of the board. My name is Willow Brown. I will be presenting the applicant appeal of the Montecito Planning Commission deemed denial of the Hawker-Philippides lot line adjustment. Next slide please. The subject properties are located at 3140 Eucalyptus Hill Road and 740 Arcadia Road in the Montecito Community Plan area. This is an aerial view of the project site. The properties are outlined in red on this map.

One lot takes access off Eucalyptus Hill Road, and the other lot takes access off Arcadia Road. Next slide please. The proposed project is for a lot line adjustment between two legal lots within the single-family residential zone district. An existing single family dwelling constructed in 1957 and outlined in green on the site plan currently straddles the common lot boundary of the two properties.

The purpose of the lot line adjustment is to adjust the common lot line between the properties so that the existing dwelling is located solely on the proposed reconfigured Lot 2. Here is the existing lot line highlighted in red. Press next, please and here is the proposed lot line highlighted in orange. The existing lots are 0.99 and 0.19 acres and the proposed lots would be 0.68 and 0 .5 acres.

Next slide please. In June 2015, the Board of Supervisors granted an unconditional certificate of compliance confirming the legality of the existing lots with the existing dwelling straddling the common lot In April 2016, the applicant submitted an application for a lot line adjustment to planning and development. At the time of application submittal, the Montecito Water District had a moratorium on the installation of new water meters within its service boundaries so case processing was put on hold.

In June 2019, the Montecito Water District lifted the moratorium on new water meters and county staff deemed the application complete. In October 2019 and January 2020, the project was considered by the Montecito Planning Commission. The Montecito Planning Commission's motion to approve the proposed lot line adjustment failed by a vote of 2-2 and the action was deemed a denial.

On January 23rd, 2020, the applicant filed an appeal to the Board of Supervisors. Next slide please. I will now present an overview of the appeal and staff's responses, which are addressed in full in the board letter. The first appeal issue stated that there has been no evidence that supports the denial of the proposed lot line adjustment. However, staff evaluated the proposed lot line adjustment and found that it conforms to all applicable regulations of the MLEDC and the Subdivision Map Act.

The second appeal issue stated that there was confusion at the Montecito Planning Commission hearing as to whether the proposed project would be considered a lot line adjustment or a lot split. The proposed project is a lot line adjustment and not a lot split, as the project will not result in the creation of a new buildable lot. Next slide please The third appeal issue stated that although the compatibility of the lot size was discussed in the Montecito Planning Commission hearing, neighborhood compatibility is irrelevant to the findings required to approve a lot line adjustment.

Staff is in agreement with this statement as the findings for a lot line adjustment do not require a finding for neighborhood compatibility and the project is consistent with all of the lot line adjustment findings. The fourth issue stated that the primary opposition to the project is due to the perceived potential effect of future development on the lots. Lot 1 and lot 2 are already considered to be residentially developable as they are residentially zoned and legally created.

As such, the proposed lot line adjustment will not increase the amount of allowed development on the properties. No development is proposed as part of the lot line adjustment and any future development is required to comply with MLUDC requirements and will be noticed to all neighbors within 300 feet of the lot. Next slide please The 5th appeal issue stated that during the Montecito Planning Commission hearing, there were claims that the Arcadia States Association has jurisdiction over the subject lots.

The Arcadia States Association does not have jurisdiction over the approval of a lot line adjustment as the association is a private entity and decision making authority rests with the county next slide please. Staff recommends that your board uphold the appeal, make the required findings for approval of the project, determine the project is exempt from CEQA and grant approval of the project subject to the conditions of approval. This concludes staff's presentation. We're available for any questions. Thank you. Any questions for Ms. Brown?

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:05:07

Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:05:08

Thank you Chair Hartman. I've got a question so could There be two houses built now, or it could be a second house built on another lot in hours because of the line going through the house. Does that prevent building on that second property?

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CommentWillow BrownProposedself-stated2:05:25

Chair Hartman, Supervisor Nelson. The house would be required to be on one lot prior to the second lot being developed. They're both buildable because they are legally created and residentially zoned but the house would either have to be partially demolished or moved onto the other lot.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:05:46

Make sure I understand that correct. So currently now there could be two residents, one on each parcel but it would involve a partial demolition or full demolition or rebuild on the existing one.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:05:59

Chair

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:05:59

Hartman, Supervisor Nelson, that's correct. Just want to make sure I understood. Thank you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:06:04

Supervisor Lavinino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.902:06:05

Thank you Madam Chair. Per land use development code let's say we granted this and they wanted to develop the second lot What's that permit path look like outside of noticing to all the neighbors?

CommentWillow BrownProposedself-stated2:06:20

Chair Hartman, Supervisor Lavanino. They would be required to apply for a land use permit for the single family dwelling. It will be subject to design review by the Montecito Board of Architectural Review. They would be required to have service letters from the water district and sewer district and it would be an appealable permit by the interested parties

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:06:46

Seeing no more questions, Ms. Petrovich?

PresenterSusan PetrovichAthena Philippides and Craig SorryProposedself-stated2:07:00

Thank you Madam Chair and members of the Board. My name is Susan Petrovich and I'm here representing Athena Philippides and Craig Sorry, Craig Hawker. First I want to thank your staff, your incredible staff. This was an excellent staff report. And I've already bombarded you with a lot of information and a lot of documents. So, I'll be brief this is a simple lot line adjustment it is not a lot split despite all of the misunderstanding or confusion at the Good morning, everyone. My name is Barbara County Board of Supervisors. I'm here to speak on behalf of the Montecito Planning Commission. We feel that the planning commission was misled and confused by repeated statements made by opponents and surprisingly by one commissioner claiming that this really isn't a lot line adjustment.

It's basically a lot split in disguise, I guess we show here irrebuttable evidence And these parcels weren't even under the same ownership for many years before Dr. Hawker and Dr. Filippides bought the property. There's no question that they bought two legal parcels at the time, and that's what they believed they were getting. This is the county's recorded certificate of compliance for the smaller, the two lots. And if you look at the parcel numbers on these slides, lot 12 came from a Mr. Paulson and lot 13 came from a Mr Solomon. Mr Solomon did a lot split on his property and then later sold off that lot.

So here is the other one. Oops. What happened here? I lost.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed2:09:13

Hmm.

PresenterSusan PetrovichAthena Philippides and Craig SorryProposedself-stated2:09:23

I've passed out an enlarged version of this slide to make it easier to read the acreages and the parcels with, and I hope all of you have that in front of you. With a lot line adjustment these parcels will become more uniform in size. The larger parcel will go from just under an acre 0.99 to 0.68 and then the smaller parcel will go from 0.19 to half an acre, so they'll at least be a little more balanced but we've been hearing that somehow this is not compatible with the area with the neighborhood whatever the neighborhood is and that's not well described but this map has two concentric circles on it as you can see the one in front of you is easier to read That shows the basically two different layers of neighborhood, but the yellow identifies other parcels in the area that are comparable in size to the smaller parcel because they range from 0.17 to 0.68 acres.

The green identifies parcels comparable to the larger parcel ranging from 069 to 089 acres. The Hawker-Philippides lots are not aberrations in any way. Many of the parcels in the area are one acre or less, many are comparable in size to these two lots both before and after the lot split. And you can see from this map how close these two parcels are to the public roadways, Eucalyptus Hill Road and Sycamore Canyon Road. So the neighbors really can't claim traffic issues.

The larger parcel doesn't even take Thank you. Just like 200 feet inside that, so they're not using much of that road. The map also gives you an idea of how much private roadway is part of Arkady estate subdivision and lies beyond the smaller of these two parcels. And I will address that issue shortly. Using Ashley Road as a marker and using the subdivision map for Arcadia Estates, you can see that lot one of Arcadia Estate's subdivision is just across the street from Ashley Road. So if you look at that, you can see the Hawker Filipitas parcels don't even abut this subdivision that neighbors are claiming has some jurisdiction over this property. I would like also to draw your attention to the green parcel at the corner of Eucalyptus Hill and Sycamore Canyon Road.

That's 0.82 acres, and it's just spitting distance from the Hawker-Philippides Lots. And then you look across the intersection of Eucalyptus Hill and Cowles, and you see lots of 0.77 and 0.79 lots. As to conformity, most of the parcels you see have two-acre zoning and the majority of the lots are less than 2 acres in size which is common throughout Montecito.

Most of the parcels in the neighborhood are nonconforming as to size under the current zoning. Within 500 feet of the subject property that is to 20 closest parcels 60% of the lots are between 0.5 and 0.99 acres feet which is a hundred closest parcels ten percent or less than half an acre and 56% are between 0.5 and 0.99 acres, so I don't know how this could be incompatible in any way The MPC was misled by opponents who adamantly and falsely claimed that these two parcels were part of the Arkady Estates and subject to the Arkady Estates Homeowners Association, and that the homeowners association opposed this lot line adjustment.

Some of the speakers actually claimed to the MPC that they were board members of this supposed homeowners association, but we've now been able to demonstrate that never has been an Arkady Estates Homeowners Association. The Arkady Association has been suspended at the direction of the California Attorney General. Some neighbors apparently have formed a new association, but it is not an HOA. It's just a group of people who formed an entity to help them collect money to maintain the roads that run through the subdivision.

Sorry, I cannot read this. Oh that's the...this is the new entity. This is the California Secretary of State webpage showing in yellow the Suspended Arkady Association, that is the false HOA. And Craig and Athena are not members of this new entity. They can demonstrate that the former HOA grossly overcharged them, charging them $700 a year for maintenance. They didn't realize they were paying what people who were using way deep into the subdivision, they were paying the same price every year for the privilege of being a member of this association.

So basically they were overcharged for four years without even knowing it. The Arkady Association Articles of Incorporation here, they claim to be a 501c3 organized for public and charitable purposes. They were neither. This is a duplicate slide. These the next few slides are letters of support Or neutrality from neighboring property owners in 2020 when Athena walked around the neighborhood to ask how these folks felt about the lot line adjustment. No pressure, she was just asking for their opinion and asking if they were comfortable to compose a note expressing their opinion.

And shortly after these letters, a handful of neighbors went around and frankly intimidated each of the authors of these, oops sorry, Each of the authors of these letters, and each of them withdrew the letters. The table that I included in my March 10 letter lists 23 lot line adjustments approved by the county in recent years. Of these 23, all of them involved at least one legal non-conforming lot and ten of these lot line adjustments involve lots that were all completely non-conforming.

Neighborhood compatibility is just not a factor in a lot line adjustment. There's no legal basis for denying the simple lot line adjustment, it is not a lot split and frankly This has been a really long process for these folks. It's been extremely expensive and frustrating for both Craig and Athena, so much time has gone by. They've been treated unfairly. They're grateful for your staff now standing up and firmly in favor of this lot line adjustment, and I'm available for any questions.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:17:06

Thank you. Do any board members have questions for Ms. Petrovich? Seeing public comment that I'm Clark.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:17:19

Chair Hartman and members of the board we have one request to speak on this item, and that is a David Snyder and we will now go to zoom for David. David.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:17:35

Yes, I'm here Can you hear me.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:17:37

We can

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:17:42

You know, I've listened to the applicants' attorneys and consultants mischaracterize the events and the situation at the property. And you know, I think her last comment that this has been a very long process. It's been a very long process for the neighbors. This started in 2016, and the neighborhood has a little bit of fatigue In trying to keep the lots in somewhat of a conformity with what is happening in the other lots in the area. So it has been a very long process, I think that when the applicant bought the lot, it was one lot she advocated to the County Board of Supervisors to declare it to be two lots The neighbors got no notice at that time and then the Board of Supervisors did in fact go ahead and say that it was a two lot. She, the staff when they say that you know there is access on you know they talk about these two lots as the one lot on Sycamore or on Eucalyptus Hill and the other lot on On Arkady, those are all things that Ms.

Philippides did so basically what she did is she knew what she was getting into as a real estate investor and speculator and is now asking you to give her a quote lot line adjustment which is in effect, a lot split it will allow her to build another home. If she just wanted to. She could demolish that home, that's there now and build one home that is in keeping with the neighborhood, but she's choosing not to do that because it doesn't.

It doesn't comport with her calculations when she bought the law. She's basically asking the, the, she asked the Planning Commission and they said no. And she's asking you to solve her problems. And I understand that she's got the brightest and the best than the most expensive. Advocates in Santa Barbara acting on her behalf, but it doesn't change the situation of what we all have been dealing with as neighbors.

This idea that the planning commission was snowed or that the planning commission was misled. It was the first time I have been before the Planning Commission And I was very impressed with how they deliberated the matter, how much time they took. This took several meetings before they came up with their conclusions. The

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:20:41

neighbors-

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:20:42

That is your time

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:20:43

Mr. Snyder and that concludes public comment on this item. So we are back to the applicant any comments Ms. Petrovich on what you've heard?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.902:21:03

I think there's some people that wanted to speak that maybe didn't know how to fill out a form or something. We got somebody raising his hand. I didn't know, okay? I just want to make sure everybody was heard.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:21:14

Sorry.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:21:17

Yes, Chair Hartman and members of the board perhaps members of the public can state their names prior to their comments and then we will have Natasha help them fill out the form after they are concluded with their comments.

PresenterDavid AlexanderNapa State Association which is the successor organization to the Arcadia StatesProposedself-stated2:21:28

Thank you. Thank you. Madam Chairman, members of the board, I'm David Alexander. I am the elected president of the Napa State Association which is the successor organization to the Arcadia States. The ones who are responsible for maintaining the roads in our community at the behest of our neighborhood. There are 30 homes in Arcadia. First of all, just so that you all understand.

We maintain the Arcadia Road, the Knapp Drive and Cottage Lane and have been since the property was developed and subdivided in 1948. The primary purpose of the organization is to act on behalf of the owners who own the right-of-way easements over the three private roads For maintaining these easements in repair and order and collect annual or other contributions to pay for the maintenance of the roads.

I think it's important to know that the amounts of money that we obtained from each of our property owners is sufficient to maintaining them in a high-caliber manner, which brings aesthetic appeal and value to all of our homeowners. I would like you to note that of the 30 homeowners, 740 Arcadia Road is one of them. And I'd like you all to know that they are in arrears for their road fees for 2020, for 2021 And also, they are now in arrears for 2022. And we're in the process of beginning to start a small claims court action to resolve this delinquency.

I have a map here that I wanted you to see

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:23:27

just so you can understand how... Do speak always in the mic so we can record it for posterity. Sorry.

PresenterDavid AlexanderNapa State Association which is the successor organization to the Arcadia StatesProposedself-stated2:23:34

I wanted you to all see. I'm afraid I don't have a larger These are the roads in our community and all of the lot sizes are consistent. They're all approximately one acre in size, all the way through the community of which is Arcadia and which 740 Arcadia Road is part of it. And you can see on these maps the consistency of the size including the parcel that is known as 740 Arcadia.

A sheaf of letters from our neighbors objecting to this the appeal of the decision of the Montecito Planning Commission. from our neighbors. So I just wanted to go on record that this is something that is frankly contrary to, I think the original design and makeup of this neighborhood and community. And it's one that would be a great disappointment. We hope that you will uphold the Montecito Planning Commission's denial of the slot line adjustment.

Thank you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:24:42

Thank you. And is there anyone else who wanted to speak from the public today?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:24:51

Chair Hartman and members of the board, it appears that concludes public comment for today. Thank you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:24:55

All right. So now we are back to Miss Petrovich

PresenterSusan PetrovichAthena Philippides and Craig SorryProposedself-stated2:25:07

Thank you Madam Chair, members of the board. First I'm not sure any of what these speakers said was relevant but the bottom line is they have their subdivision and this property neither these properties is in their subdivision however the law requires if you hold an easement over someone else's property you have to keep it main to help make your pro rata share of the maintenance Well, you can see from the maps that these roads go on and on and on and on. But everybody under their system pays the same cost. So if you're in the case of the Hawkers, their property is 200 feet from the public road. They should be paying just their pro rata share of the roadway that they use not everybody else's roadway And so they, for seven years were charged $700 just as everybody else in the subdivision were charged $700.

They didn't realize they weren't part of this HOA I think until they came through my door. In any event, 740 Arkady is not part of their estates, their subdivision and after paying seven years at $700 I think they owe the Hawkers money, but that's really something they should be working out somewhere other than here. The bottom line is that this is a lot split just like any other and it certainly should be approved. Thank you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:26:43

Thank

PresenterSusan PetrovichAthena Philippides and Craig SorryProposedself-stated2:26:43

you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:26:44

Back to Miss Brown, any comments you have on what you've heard today?

CommentWillow BrownProposedself-stated2:26:49

Chair Hartman Board of Supervisors I just wanted to neighborhood compatibility has been brought up several times and I just wanted to reiterate that lot size compatibility is not a required finding for a lot line adjustment. That's it thank you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:27:05

Supervisor Lavanino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.902:27:06

Thank you question for Council just on the questions that were raised about the HOA I'm assuming that's not something we, I mean rarely have, you may always hear that there are HOA issues but could you just kind of give us some guidelines on how to deal with those?

GuestNelsonProposed · by introduction2:27:29

Madam Chair and Supervisor Levenino. Generally speaking, disputes among neighbors and private individuals including with a homeowners association is not before your board and your board does not have discretion over that. So all that's before your board is whether or not you can make the findings for this particular application.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:27:57

No other questions? Deliberations Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:28:03

I just wanted to review once more the background of the previous decision about the parcel that the board made and the ramifications, and maybe did that not have noticing requirements. Is that why the neighborhood wasn't aware? Can we review that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:28:31

Chair Hartman and Supervisor Williams, are you talking about the board decision to legalize the lots? That's right. I assume that was noticed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:28:45

Yeah, I would think that it's noticed so... So, I mean, I don't remember it being a controversial item. Is my recollection off? No,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed2:28:58

and there were no appeals to the Board's decision of that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:29:04

So there was noticing of that but at the time that was not appealed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:29:13

Madam Chair and Supervisor Williams, so that was an item that was brought by the Surveyor's Office and if there was noticing required it was complied with but it didn't go through the standard P&D noticing.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:29:24

So repeat that one more time?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:29:27

The certificate of compliance item that came before the board previously was brought by the surveyors office. So it wouldn't, and it wasn't required to go through the standard planning and development noticing but this surveyor may have had different noticing

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:29:41

requirements. And what is that requirement?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:29:44

We could look, it's been a long time. Okay.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:29:51

Supervisor Nelson

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:29:54

But there was still, thank you Chair Hartman. Still noticing because there's a board item right so it still went through the whole process of being noticed maybe not something sent directly to neighbors but it was publicly noticed and available on the county website just like any other board item is that correct?

GuestNelsonProposed · by introduction2:30:15

Madam Chair and Supervisor Nielsen. Yes, that's correct It was a public hearing and it was the decision of your board so it would have been subject to Noticing up for the agenda published on the website and all of the typical noticing for a Brown Act public hearing

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:30:30

Supervisor Lavinino

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.902:30:32

Thank You madam chair, so is this time for deliberation?

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:30:35

Yes, I thought it's in Supervisor Williams' district so

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.902:30:38

he might go first. Go ahead. Okay. So as always it's a sad day when we have neighbors you guys are going to be living next to each other for quite awhile so we hate to see situations like this but they do arise and I've lived in an HOA myself before and not my recommended move for anybody because Ends up, it seems like this is the way it goes. But that I guess you guys will have to settle in court. That's not before us today. What is before us today though and I think what the neighbors are seeing is what's down the road? What's the next thing right? I'm not really too sure why you would be upset about a lot line adjustment and moving that except for the fact that you're worried that that lot will eventually be developed right?

And as was stated is. You're going to have some legitimate concerns over that and those will be heard at that time, but when we look at what we're dealing with today, we've got an existing lot line that runs through a home built in 1957. Which moving this does not increase the development potential of either lot you could build, you could potentially build on both of these lots right now there's no change in land use What I look for also, the water districts offered a can and will serve letter.

The issues that were brought up lot size compatibility is not really a required finding for a lot line adjustment. It does meet all the Montecito land use development codes and county subdivision regulations. And most importantly to me any possible future development will trigger its own hearing And the neighborhoods ability to raise your concerns at that point, and I guess the shot has been made across the bow already that if you decide that you want to develop that piece of property. That I would assume that we will be back here not sure all of us will still be on the board at that point but.

Since I've been dealing with this project since 2015, I hope it's in my lifetime. So my reaction would be, I mean, my position at this point would be to uphold the appeal and move forward with the lot line adjustment. And I just wanted to add one other thing That we have now, which I'm very glad staff put this on the bottom of this because this once again shows us.

One of the problems with our system is staff time alone. We've spent close to $15,000 which I find a very conservative number for as many people has been involved in this and. We've received back $685 for the appeal, which is what they have As we continue to have these hearings and go through these processes, this is a giant loss for the county every time we do have one of these hearings.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:34:02

Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:34:05

Yeah I think this case kind of illustrates the Really, kind of the thing that most people expect us to do is to make a legislative decision. And what we are required to do in these legal appeals is to make a legal decision. And so if we were in a legislative decision, the neighbor's desire to reduce the development potential in the area I might side with. There's all sorts of issues in this, especially if you go farther north from here with the development potential of of lots, though in Montecito in general I would say that fear is legitimate. But the reality generally of increased development potential has not come to pass. In fact, the last 10 years people have consolidated lots more in Montecito than they have tried to split them and develop them.

So I think the angst on the part of the neighbors is legitimate. The angst on the part of the community is legitimate, but I would also point out that recent history, that hasn't been coming to pass. For instance one of the things I checked on before the hearing was to see if any SB 9 lot splits have been applied for in Montecito and there's not a single one.

So the. But what we are asked to do today is not the legislative decision of whether to reduce development potential, but a legal decision of whether we can make the findings and still make the findings for the lot line adjustment or deny it with substantial evidence. And I don't feel like I have substantial evidence to deny it and I'm looking in the findings, I'm looking in the Montecito code findings and I'm not seeing, I'm not seeing the hook. I'm not seeing what is lacking here from the legal perspective of providing for the lot line adjustment and I think it really boils down to the question of are the two lots developable?

We've heard from staff here today that they are developable. I could take the perspective of that we could frustrate the development potential by requiring somebody to knock down the house. But it doesn't seem like that serves the ultimate... If your goal is to reduce the development potential in the neighborhood, which seems to me the goal that's been presented by the neighbors, it doesn't really help that goal just to require somebody to knock down the existing structure in order to make it longer before both parcels are developed.

Especially in Montecito, I mean in Montecito frankly that just means that either person if the person lacks the capital to do that then they're just going to sell to somebody who does have the capital further you know Taking it. The neighborhood from, you know, upper middle class or to upper upper upper upper, you know, class shifts so you know I've seen this transpire and in Montecito over the years and it's I don't view that as a win.

You know, for the neighborhood to sort of force the development to be a knockdown and then developed I just don't see that that accomplishes what So I'm with the neighbors on the merits of their goals, but I don't think that this accomplishes that and I don't see the legal hook to deny the lot split. Deny the lot line adjustment.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:38:55

Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:38:56

Thank you Chair Hartman. One of the commenters said That the applicant has the brightest best and most expensive on their side. And I would argue that's not important here, but important here is that they have the facts and the law on their side. And you know, the board has decided on this. This was two lots for the neighbors that are concerned about the incompatibility of the size that's coming off of their neighborhood. This actually increases the lot size Of the parcel where the house exists right now, so it will actually come into greater conformity with its neighbors through this process So not only is this legal I? Think this is actually good planning.

I think that you know survey errors like this that must have happened or building errors in the past and You know one of our jobs here is to try to correct those things make it more more appropriate, and I think that's what's been done here. I think the lot sizes here are modest and are trying to conform with the neighborhood that exists. I think the second lot will not have impacts on the private roads. It's obviously going to come off a eucalyptus.

That makes a lot more sense. So it really, I think actually reduces the potential impact off the private roads considerably moving forward. So again you know at the end of the day having the facts on your side I would be supporting upholding the appeal and approving the lot line adjustment.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:40:38

Supervisor Hart, did you have anything you wanted to add? I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:40:42

just share the view of my colleagues that And staff, more importantly that this is a lot line adjustment and it doesn't make any sense to require tearing down the house to accommodate that adjustment. I'm sure that when the proposal for a new home on the vacant lot comes in front of the board, the neighbors will have their opportunity to shape that proposal and make it fit into the neighborhood which is really a lovely place for everybody involved to live.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:41:16

I had a question. Does this association have CC&Rs that limit or specify certain size of lots? Yeah, that's what I thought. So that would be the way to do it had there been CC&RS and that would be a way to enforce it but using our process retroactively to do it doesn't seem to me fair and it's not really legal So I agree with my colleagues that This is a lot split and it corrects a historic error, and I'm ready to entertain a motion

GuestNelsonProposed · by introduction2:42:03

Madam chair members of the board Just for the record, I wanted since there was a question about the 2015 action. I just want to add for the record that in addition to the public hearing that was held on June 2nd 2015 There is also a set hearing so that was another public noticing that was on May 19th 2015 Thank

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:42:21

you. We do take notice very seriously

GuestNelsonProposed · by introduction2:42:26

and Madam Chair members of board Division Chief Richardson informs me there was also published notice

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:42:32

Thank you. So Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:42:36

Yes, I know this isn't supervisor Williams district but and I understand position he's in wrestling with these things but I do think that the board has come to conclusion here so I will go ahead and make a recommended action to uphold the appeal and approve the line adjustment.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:42:52

May I have a second? Second. Could we have a roll call vote?

CommentAnd Madam ChairProposedself-stated2:42:58

Supervisor Hart Aye. And Madam Chair, members of the board just to confirm that's all the recommended actions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:43:05

Yes, all the recommended actions.

Roll-call vote Passed 4–0
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Supervisor Nelson? Aye. Supervisor Labanino? Aye. Supervisor Williams? Aye and Chair Hartman? Aye
UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:43:16

Motion passes unanimously.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:43:20

So Miss Van Mullen we're recessing to closed session what will we hear during closed session today?

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GuestNelsonProposed · by introduction2:43:29

Madam Chair, members of the board. There are three items for closed session today. Conference with legal counsel on existing litigation government code section 54956.9 and that's Duca versus County of Santa Barbara Superior Court case was also anticipated litigation significant exposure to litigation one case under government code 54956.9 and the details are listed in the agenda and anticipated litigation government code section 5495 6.9 Deciding whether to initiate civil litigation one case and the estimate is about 45 minutes.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:44:05

Forty-five minutes, so we'll be back here Madam clerk 1245 yes Thank you Good afternoon. We're reconvening the March 15, 2022 meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. We're just coming back from closed session. County Council will you report out please?

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GuestNelsonProposed · by introduction4:05:36

Thank you Madam Chair, members of the Board. The board met in closed session on three items. One item of existing litigation, Duca versus County of Santa Barbara. One item of anticipated litigation with a significant exposure to litigation and anticipated litigation deciding whether to initiate civil litigation one case and the board took no reportable action.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.674:05:57

Thank you and madam clerk would you read departmental item number four into the record please?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:06:02

Chair Hartman and members of the Board, departmental item number four is from the County Executive Office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an update on the coronavirus disease 2019 COVID-19. Thank you and Dr. Del Reynoso?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:06:18

Good afternoon, Chair Hartman and members of the board with me here this afternoon is Dr. Ansor to provide our COVID-19 update. I'd like to begin my COVID-19 update with recapping key elements. Madam Clerk may I have my slides? Next And so we began roughly two years ago, on March 11 2020. The WHO declared coven 19 as a pandemic and we started hearing though.

reported cases around the world a little bit before then. So it started with December 31st, 2019. We heard about cases coming from Wuhan China. We began hearing cases in Europe beginning January 24th here in the US on January 20th we heard from CDC that we have our first case In California, our first cases happened on January 26. And here in Santa Barbara County, March 15th marks the first date of our first case. So today marks the second anniversary of our first case. And this is a date that I think I will always remember because I recall celebrating my niece's Kathy's birthday Texting her to congratulate her birthday, and then also getting notice that Ovan we have our first positive confirmed case next.

And this is the recap of our case rate in Santa Barbara County. So we began our first peak on July 11th, 2020 with a case rate of twenty six point two. Then we On August 28, 2020 we were assigned the purple tier as the state implemented its blue tier system. We saw then our alpha peak on 1-8-21 with 100 cases per 100,000 and then in the subsequent months we saw a rapid decrease And then on June 15, 2021 California fully reopens and the state retires the blueprint tier system. Our case rate at that point was around 1.1 per 100,000. And then we began to experience the Delta surge a few weeks later with the Delta peak on August the 14th at 31.3 cases per 100,000 and it lasted through the fall we really never achieved that one that low case as we did from the alpha peak.

And then as we entered excuse me As we entered December 2020, I'm sorry 2021. We began to see the Omicron surge occur incredibly at a fast clip with the Omicron peaking on January 10th 2022 at 258.1 cases per 100,000. So where we're at now, we are seeing a 4.4 case per 100,000 and that case rate has been decreasing 69% from the last two weeks. Next. And this is a recap of our hospitalization rates, mirroring the peaks that we saw in the preceding slide. Our first peak we saw in July 20th 29 2020 with 89 cases in the hospital with 31 of them being in the ICU then I'm We saw the alpha peaking on January 12 at 2021 at 200.

and 11 cases with 60 being in the ICU. So what we're seeing here is roughly the peak in the hospital, in the hospitalization roughly about one-and-a-half to two weeks after the case peak. We saw the Delta peak of...we saw hospitalization due to the Delta peak on September 1, 2021 at 82 cases with 24 being in the ICU. And with the Omicron we saw it earlier in January 21 of at 150 cases with 29 in the ICU. We are currently at a low of 19 hospitalization with two in the ICU next This slide talks a little bit about our vaccination rates. So, on your right is the graph of our peaks and ebbs with regards to vaccination in our county. We started in December 1st of 2020 with eight doses that was our dry run and then we began ramping up The, the really the high point of vaccination in our county happening at 8491.

In March 31 of 21. And then we. We saw a dip and really not seeing an uptick again until last December, when we saw the peak at on December 2 with 39152 cases documented. I'm sorry doses documented. We are currently Documenting 162 doses given in our county as of March 1322. And on the left-hand side is our recap of our vaccination status. We have 67.7% of Santa Barbara County fully vaccinated as of March 13th, 72% of our eligible population is fully vaccinated next.

This is our breakdown of vaccination rates by zip codes. And we are continuing to focus on the zip codes with red and orange, and really want to point out here that we really note the incredible work in the 3-4 934-34 zip code, that's Guadalupe. The 93454 the Quiama zip code and the 93458 Santa Maria zip code. We're seeing significant traction in these zip codes with regards to vaccination rates being increased. And this is really due to tireless efforts by community partners.

Next? And this is a list of vaccine partners, our community partners who have received vaccine grants from the state or our local critical needs fund and it includes really a diverse A group of partners ranging from healthcare partners to community organizations and to us, a two community organizations, community based organizations. This list is not comprehensive because it doesn't include the additional partners that all these funded organizations partner with in order to do the outreach.

Next. So that brings us to the current status in Santa Barbara County, currently we have 13 new cases. And that is a decrease of 61% from two week average of 33. We are seeing 171 active cases, and again this is also a decrease from a two-week average. Our case rate per 100,000 as I mentioned earlier is 4.4. We have two new deaths And both individuals were 70 years of age and had underlying health conditions with one death associated with a congregate care site.

We have 19 hospitalized with two in the ICU, and our total deaths stand at 664. Our testing positivity is at 2.2. Next. This is a good summary of where we're at with indoor masking. So for the vaccinated and unvaccinated, as you are aware, the state has lived most of the requirements for indoor masking except for health care, long-term care, jails and prison And as you are also aware, the federal mandate for masking stands for public transportation at least until April 18th. However, we are still strongly recommending that everyone consider masking when they are at a public indoor setting and at schools and childcare.

Next. The local public health department has been thinking through our strategies and our goals for the next phase. And I'd like to share with your board, the next four slides about our best thinking thus far. So with regards to vaccine moving forward we will maintain our mobile vaccine program especially in health equity areas in vulnerable communities. We will continue to monitor immunization trends via the database and via epidemiology.

We will continue to support our health care providers and systems to build their capacity to vaccinate individuals, and we will also consider seasonality of surges and make sure that we Plan for those trends and be ready to increase our vaccine clinics if needed. With regards to isolation and quarantine, we will increase capacity within the community to be able to conduct isolation on site. And we have started that work with our homeless shelter partners.

We will maintain the flexibility in our C-19 team so that they can expand and contract Their scope of work and be cross train to be able to provide all aspects of the current work, which includes vaccine offerings isolation and quarantine and testing. Next. With regards to testing, we will encourage the utilization of state and federal programs for ordering tests as the main mechanism for service to especially in rural or isolated communities.

And we are working currently with those communities. We will support our partners to retain their own cache of antigen tests through already existing mechanisms. We will maintain testing supplies for surge and outbreaks. With regards to contact tracing and contact investigation, we will transition our contact tracing contact investigators to respond to detailed inquiries from the community businesses and congregate living facilities. We will publish a public phone number to support anyone who tests positive and needs additional support or guidance. We will enhance capacity of our 2-1-1 partners to provide detailed support to those who call 2- 1-1 and we will shift our contact investigator, contact tracing team to outbreak response function meaning to support travelers to look at congregate outbreaks in congregate living centers next With regards to data and our local dashboard, we will be transitioning to rely on CDPH data sources after expiring our local health emergency order.

We will maintain capacity though to resume processing and reporting local data if a surge occurs. We will streamline our dashboard to contain key metrics. With regards to surveillance, we will be monitoring federal and state data sources and trends. We will maintain our engagement with local and state partners for wastewater and that should read variant monitoring.

Next. Our last set of strategies involve our healthcare centers. We will maintain testing at our Lompoc and Santa Barbara Healthcare Centers, at least through 2022. We are ramping up and building the capacity at our Santa Maria Healthcare Center in anticipation of the community testing site at Santa Maria Fair Park closing, and I just heard from the state that they will support us with community testing until June 30th this year.

We're also looking at developing capacity at our Carpinteria Health Care Center so that the Carpinteria community would have access to testing next. I'd like to end with this slide and acknowledging that we as a community have experienced twists and turns these past two years, as all the other communities worldwide. Moving forward, we can expect that SARS-CoV-2 the virus that causes COVID will continue to change and evolve. And we need to adapt with it. We can also expect that the strategies and approaches that we have used in the past may need to change as we adapt to the new variant.

But we do have the tools with vaccine, with vaccines and and booster with high quality masks. With the availability of PCR and antigen testing and increasing access to medicines and to antivirals, to monoclonal antibody as treatment options. These are the four strategies that really will build our capacity as we move forward to fight COVID-19. And with that I am concluding my briefing and Dr. Ansorg and I are open for questions.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.674:24:04

Any questions? Supervisor Nelson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed4:24:09

Yes, thank you Chair Hartman just a question about so we've built the infrastructure to react to the pandemic response You know funding moving forward, you know what is that gonna look like for the department as some of this COVID relief funding wraps up from state and federal sources how will your department look moving forward?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:24:33

Supervisor Nelson through the chair. That's a great question. CDPH and CDC has acknowledged that the infrastructure of local health departments needs to be strengthened, needs to be bolstered. And so we have received fundings from both CDC and CDPH to bolster our infrastructure increasing our data capacity increasing our technical capacity, our communication, our staff training and building our community relationships to partner up with us at the next response effort. So all of that we have been working on and we will continue to work on. And these fundings will last anywhere from one year to three years.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed4:25:23

Thank you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.674:25:26

Any other questions or comments? Supervisor Williams

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:25:35

well, I think sometimes when we get to this point. We don't pause for a second and Number one, thank all the people who worked to make less people get sick and worked to make fewer people die. And I think it's important to celebrate that. I think it's also important to celebrate being at this moment in society I you know, I don't think we should conclude that things are over but even Things being better and being able to get back to more Community activities is a great weight off of many people's shoulders psychologically in some cases economically and others And I do think it's a should be a moment of gladness I'll be a lot more glad when there's no one else who ends up dying between one of these reports.

But, but I still think the level of progress that's been made should be celebrated and we should have some gladness and thankfulness in our hearts.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.674:26:57

Very well said.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed4:27:00

Well, I was going to wait to having some closing comments because I didn't know there's public comment but I guess there's none so. You know

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:27:07

for the record Madam Clerk chair Hartman and members of the board yes thank you we have no request to speak on this item.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed4:27:13

Okay. Thank you. You know, I'm actually looking at this as potentially our last one of these hopefully for some time. I think it's the hope for this board and so you know a lot of looking back at these last two years my daughter this weekend mentioned that it's been a two year anniversary since she got the email saying that spring break would be extended And they were thinking for a few days, but obviously it was much longer. And it just reminds me of what the impact this has been on our youth.

And I just think that that's really important for us all to remember that some of the people that we're most charged with taking care of have suffered the most. Maybe they may not have had the sickness, the disease or past like some of our older populations. But I think we need to be all diligent moving forward You know the education gaps with depression, with obesity. I mean there's going to be some societal cleanup that needs to take place and so you know I want to make sure that we're all thinking about that moving forward also as this is obviously unprecedented and that you know we were adapting as we moved.

I'm hopeful in the future if we have public health emergencies like this that we're able You know, balance public health emergencies with local control and decision makers. Obviously things are very dynamic and we many of us did the best that we could with what was in front of us but I really throughout this whole time have. Struggled with the lack of the ability of this board and other decision makers to maybe help temper some of the big picture issues. I know public health, their responsibility is yes broad but also very narrow especially when it comes to governing and they don't have all the same tools that many of us do as electeds. And so just those are kind of my thoughts as we hopefully are moving beyond this period.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.674:29:25

Supervisor Hart. Yeah,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:29:27

I want to just I don't know where we are exactly in this moment in history. I hope we are Where we want to be and it's things are definitely getting significantly better appreciate the facts and Information that dr. Doran oh so provided us with And and I do want to kind of reflect back as supervisor Nelson just did about how hard this has been for everybody and I remember having a conversation with my more than 90 year old ex-mother-in-law who said, I asked her you've been through a lot of things in your life. You know you grew up in the Depression and you were a teenager in World War II there's been you know recessions and world strife through your whole life how does this event rate in your experience? And she said very cleanly clearly quickly This is the hardest thing that's ever happened in my life.

And she said it was because we weren't able to physically get together at the very beginning of the pandemic, we were isolated and apart. And on those other occasions people could get together and they could celebrate and they could share the difficult moments and be with people. So this has been truly extraordinary and we will never forget the past two years as long as we live. We'll be telling our grandkids about This experience I hope we've learned something from this. I'm not sure it's clear you know what we learn, but as time goes on we get more distance and space from this, you know, I hope there's a robust discussion about how we could have done better, you know what we needed to know when, when we didn't know it. And how, more importantly, how we can be better prepared in the future.

And that's our job is to just figure that out, work with the folks in the public health department and others and be in a better place because this is probably not the last time we're gonna encounter something like this in our lives unfortunately.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.674:31:10

Supervisor Lavinino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.904:31:12

Thank you. That just brought up something Supervisor Hart when you were talking about that is I think one of the things that we do need to take away is to be prepared I remember going to get groceries like in that first two week shutdown and just freaked out, like oh wow this is apocalyptic. This is what all those movies are about when you're looking around and there's nothing on the shelves. Yeah it was the first time we saw people in masks and it was like whoa this is post-apocalyptic something really bad.

But have I gone out and like stored up a bunch of food or anything? No. You know, that's typical human beings is we're like oh we made it through the rough part so you know I think it's incumbent upon all of us to learn something from this. If we don't learn anything from it then we really wasted an opportunity. So yeah, this thing's going to be analyzed forever I'm sure in how the human beings dealt with this but I'm glad Hopefully that we are looking at it in the review mirror

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.674:32:14

CEO Miyasato

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:32:16

Chair Hartman and board members just to let you know We are planning to come back in April, and we're looking at that about a wrap-up and Given the public health statistics talking more to dr. Answered and dr. Vaughan do I know so about? The end of the public health emergency so we do plan to come back in April We're figuring that out right now and we do have an after action report that's been done with our consultant on the emergency response.

Right now it's been focused on the non-public health part because of that, the public health response is so large. So we've focused on that will be coming to your board. So there will be time to do more of a wrap up and have thoughts or reflections but I do wanna thank your board and I wanna thank Supervisor Hart because I didn't agree with him. And that was at the beginning of this You decided that it was important for you to be in this room or in Better Avia Center and Supervisor Adam as well, and that you continue to do that. And I want the public to know that this board has not had a regular meeting that was virtual. Although the board has passed a 30-day extension, it really hasn't related to this board. The board has always been in the Better Avia Center or this room holding these board meetings We had a couple of maybe special meetings where we did all virtual.

There were maybe some closed session items, but for any regular meeting and I went and looked at different organizations that my friends work for and they didn't do that. Some boards are still meeting virtually and I want the public to know this board has made a commitment and made a commitment in the beginning and that's why I said I didn't agree with Supervisor Hart when he was chair when he made that but he was right.

That was important for the public to see you in here and for you to be governing from your positions together. So I want to thank you, because I think it has made a big difference in how we got through this pandemic so thank you to all of you

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.674:34:03

well said. I think the two-year anniversary is a time to look back, but as we've learned with all emergencies there's a lot of things that play on into the future. So we're dealing with the economic and supply chain issues and the great resignation, I think, of the ten people who retired in our organization just this month And most, especially as Supervisor Nelson noted the mental health and yet we were out there doing the surveys and getting the information and analyzing or the after action report. We begin to anticipate, even during the emergency what's going to come next. How do we keep this county ship of state afloat? And so I'm appreciative to all the staff. I think of Dr. Del Reynoso and Dr. Ansorg and this has been grueling and the stamina that it takes day in and day out.

And I'm so admiring of how they've dealt with this I remember, you know thinking. I think we were trying to get to seven cases a case rate of seven and it seemed impossible and now we're at 4.41 and so I at least thought well maybe it's safe to take my mask off but we've sure been through a lot together and I think this board has pulled together with our staff and stood behind our staff and I think that is been very significant In getting through this phase of it and now we've got additional phases until we recover so Take a deep breath, then. We got more work ahead So we

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed4:35:49

move staff recommendations

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.674:35:52

Second

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed4:35:53

second

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.674:35:54

all in favor say aye aye any opposed Passes unanimously we are adjourned until Tuesday April 5th. I