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Good morning.
I call to order the June 14, 2022 budget hearing for Santa Barbara County Fiscal Year 2022-23 operating plan. Madam Clerk will you please read the roll? Supervisor
Williams?
Here.
Supervisor Hart?
Here.
Supervisor Nelson? Here Supervisor Lavinino? Here and Chair Hartman?
CEO Miyasato, do we have a report from you today?
No CEO's report today.
And Madam Clerk, do you have announcements for us today?
Chair Hartman and members of the board I do have a couple quick announcements this morning. I would like to note for the record that we posted an addendum to today's budget hearing agenda on Friday June 10th adding a closed session agenda to todays meeting. The closed session agenda has been posted online posted on the outside administration Building Bulletin Board made available to in the back of the room and made available to the board.
Additionally, I would like to note that persons may address the board at the conclusion of each functional group presentation. If you're signing up to provide verbal public comment through Zoom please note which functional group you would like to speak on in your online registration. General public comment for items not on today's agenda will be at the conclusion of today's budget hearing. Please see page two of the agenda for our current methods of public participation.
Lastly, I would like to remind the public who are participating in our meeting today of the board's updated methods of public participation. For the Board of Supervisors' methods of public participation and to provide public comment on general public comment or an item on the board's agenda, please see page two of the agenda. Members of the public can attend meetings in person both in the Santa Barbara Board Hearing Room Chambers as well as the Santa Maria Board Hearing Room Chambers.
Please note the board is following all local and state guidelines and are no longer requiring face coverings indoors. If you attend the board meeting in person, you will no longer be required to wear a face covering but please be advised that the public health department is strongly encouraging all county staff and members of the public to mask and socially distance themselves in crowded areas.
I would also like to remind the public that if you require any special accommodations, please contact the clerk of the board to make that request preferably on the Friday prior to the board meeting. Individuals that would like to provide verbal public comment virtually may do so via Zoom by registering in advance via the link available on page two. After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing important information about joining the virtual meeting. Once the chair has announced the item you want to comment on, please join the meeting with the information provided in the registration confirmation email.
You will be placed on mute until it is your turn to speak. The clerk will call you by name And when we're moved from mute, you will hear a notification that your line has been unmuted. If you are using a touchtone phone, you may need to press star six to unmute yourself. Each person may address the board for up to three minutes and this is at the discretion of the chair.
If you have any questions please contact the clerk of the board's office at area code 805-568-2240 again that's 805 568 That concludes my announcements for today.
Thank you, well that brings us to the business of the day, the budget hearing agenda for the fiscal year 2022-23 operating plan and just as a reminder to anybody wanting to make public comment we will have public comment after each of the five functional groups so I will now turn it over to our CEO Miyasato.
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Thank You Chair Hartman good morning everyone good morning board members good morning department Department directors, your executives, department staff and our community. So we are here today to present to you the recommended budget for your adoption. Today I'm going to give a brief overview if you get the next slide. A brief overview and then Assistant CEO and Budget Director Nancy Anderson will go into more detail And then Paul Clemente, our budget division chief will talk about what's in each functional group as just a high-level overview. We'll have time for board deliberation and then ask the board to take recommended actions. And before we begin today I do want to say thank you again To all our department directors, your fiscal officers and executive teams for putting this budget together and working with our office.
And mostly I do want to thank the budget research team, Richard Morgantini, Nicole Parmalee, Wes Welch, Reese Elsted, Stephen Yee, Dana Grossi, Ted Tabor, Sarah Gill, all led by our Budget Division Chief Paul Clemente and Assistant CEO Budget Director Nancy Anderson. As well as the Auditor's Financial Reporting Division, Joel Boyer, Stephen Herrera, Joel Flores, Tyler Walker, Jeff Arthur, Nick Knocker. All led by Division Chief Juan Izquierdo and Assistant Auditor Controller Ed Price and Auditor Controller Betsy Schaefer.
And with that we can begin. So as you know, our theme this year looking at our budget is Reset, Reimagine and Reconnect. Reset is how the county works and how we will be working to optimize all the new technologies, all the new ways of working that we've practiced during the pandemic and how we can increase our capacity and efficiency anchoring in our renewed values and behaviors.
How we can reimagine a more inclusive and equitable future for our community That safeguards our health, safety and prosperity. And addresses issues like climate change and disaster resilience. And lastly reconnecting. It's good to see all our departments here today in the board chambers it's been a while. And it's with that feeling of reconnecting with our residents, our community members, our clients and our customers in both new ways and the traditional ways to maintain and grow partnerships and collaborations also that we form during the pandemic.
Still we have an eye towards the future and future threats. There is inflation on the rise as we know, as departments discussed at the workshops some departments are experiencing 20% vacancy rates so recruiting and retention have become more difficult in this last year. We continue to face high levels of deferred maintenance that we are chipping away at and more legislative mandates We've seen that historic allocations of federal and state funding, including ARPA funds have greatly helped our situation.
Unfortunately many of these are one time in nature and we will have to address ongoing needs as we enter the second and third year of this funding. The state's revenue are positive and it's been able allowed us to make investments in mental health particularly homelessness and housing And despite a decline in cannabis revenue, other major discretionary revenues have been stable and are projected to grow next year.
So the recommended budget reflects the county's fiscal stability in that this is our fourth year without service level reductions. And we've achieved these by prioritizing your key projects, careful planning and your continued eye towards fiscal responsibility Revenue growth and operational efficiencies have allowed departments to absorb increasing costs because they have faced increased costs in labor, liability insurance and other needs.
We talked about unprecedented state and federal funding have been assisting with pandemic recovery. The recommended budget continues your policy on identifying and mitigating fiscal risk and maintaining prudent reserves and as it's shown on the slide we are able to Fully fund it and reach our rainy day fund or our strategic reserve at 8% of the general fund operating budget of $40.6 million per the board's policy.
The budget also continues to include programming and services that focuses on your priorities, a fair and efficient criminal justice system addressing climate change, infrastructure improvements and maintenance, community amenities Increasing opportunities for recreation and open space, preserving and enhancing the safety net. Equity and inclusion efforts all bolstered by stable finances, prudent reserves, and technology for efficient and effective processes and services to help us adapt.
Specific county challenges I've mentioned some already have been legislative and regulatory changes that have Impacting departmental funding, workload and service delivery systems. And those just keep on coming. Increasing operating costs for road maintenance and projects in advance construction costs for major bridge projects continue to impact the Public Works Department.
We've talked about recruiting and retention issues. And there's uncertainty related to city contract negotiations for the Sheriff Corner and other rising public safety costs. Pension and liability insurance costs are expected to increase which is affecting departments across the board. But the county continues to make progress toward achieving key priorities and fulfilling its commitments.
I've spoken about some of those there, but I also want to talk about specific projects because at this time of year we're providing you a $1.4 billion budget and a lot that gets discussed is what we're not doing. And I want to emphasize all that we are doing. We are advancing your priorities We've, with co-response teams with the Sheriff of Mental Health. We're continuing to fund that beyond the grants that we've received for three teams and we're doing that with ARPA funding. You want a long range planning projects expedited and we are adding more funding to the Long Range Planning Division planning. And increasing staff for the assisted outreach treatment program through Be Well.
But parks and open space projects continue, repaving a Royal Borough beach parking, designing a multi-use trail at Gaviota Marine Terminal, improving Kachuma Lake Fireside Amphitheater, looking at a multi-use trail south of Orcutt opening the restaurant at Goleta Beach, countywide parks and recreation master plan progress And all of these CIPs, you've been funding this or in this budget you've directed us to fund these projects with general fund and cannabis revenue.
Priority CIPs were the Santa Maria Public Defender Office reconfiguration, Santa Barbara Courthouse exterior lighting upgrades, North County Communications shop retrofit, New Koyama Sheriff Substation, ADA restroom upgrades including Rincon Beach Park, Betty Arabia campus weatherization and window replacement, Orkut Library acquisition, Modoc Multi Trail phase two, Mission Canyon sewer extension. Refugio right of way improvements. We're continuing to work on proposed COP finance projects and this has taken us some time but we have to get them to a ready state in order to issue debt Because we are limited on the time to spend the debt. And that's continuing to work on the public safety radio replacement program, a new headquarters for probation, main jail renovation, Cochuma Lake infrastructure upgrades, regional fire communication center and Fire Station 27 rebuild.
In addition to all of that, federal ARPA funding totaling $32.1 million has allowed us to make progress on projects including more road maintenance, project clean water, IV community center improvements, hearing room improvements including closed captioning HVAC improvements and ventilation improvements, public safety radio network, broadband strategic plan study. Also the Santa Barbara Courthouse boiler system main gel elevator replacement engineering building window and roof replacement San Antonio Creek Bridge and Orcutt ball field lighting.
So I want us to take a pause because I've been here eight years almost nine and I don't think we've ever seen that many CIPs on this list that were general fund or special fund ARPA funded So congratulations to us and thank you to our residents and the federal government providing that funding for us to do that. So looking beyond Renew22, we've been, Renew 22 has positioned the county to be innovative, responsive, and resilient. We're continuing with InnovateSBC to train our employees for process improvements in innovation. We're continuing the KPMG departmental reviews to identify strengths and opportunities for improvement. We are digitizing more services and implementing digital technology We're expanding e-learning and training opportunities, and obtaining more employee feedback for greater employee engagement.
And so for 22-23 the county will be looking at a reset of countywide strategic initiatives in the alignment of department goals, objectives, and performance measures. This will be a time like I said to reset how we do our work, reimagine our future, and reconnect with our residents, community members, clients, and customers. We're very proud of this budget And Ms. Anderson will provide more detail, thank you.
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Good morning Chair Hartman and members of the Board. We'll just bring up our new slides in just a moment. We do have an agenda for today and it should be Coming up right here. So we'll provide a brief recommended budget overview, go into the post-workshop CEO recommended budget expansions, talk about the summary of ARPA allocations that were final allocation was made on April 14th Talk about some final budget adjustments that happen after we've prepared the recommended budget. We're going to touch on cannabis tax revenue and then Paul Clemente will go through the functional groups overview, and then we'll go into board deliberation.
So we always start with this chart on the time frame of preparing the recommended budget. It takes about six months for us to get through this process all the way until today, June 14th. We start in December with a budget development report to your board and a five-year forecast. In April, we hold the budget workshops and get additional direction from your board.
Of course, the governor releases his May revise budget proposal in mid-May that was done on May 13th this year. And then we release the recommended budget for public review on May 27th. So now we're here today on June 14th with the budget hearings and we will go over this overview. Much consideration goes into arriving at the CEO recommended budget. A hard look at resources, anticipated expenses, prior commitments and critical unmet needs are required for fiscal year 22-23 we are projecting that major discretionary revenue will remain stable With some growth and that cannabis tax revenue will be volatile and therefore limited to one-time expenses. As in past years, labor IT charges and liability costs continue to escalate and had to be addressed in department budgets.
Commitments to investments and deferred maintenance capital projects information technology infrastructure and funding plan for the northern branch jail operations have all been incorporated. Each year we also look to minimize service level reductions in departments identified needs in order to mitigate high liability risks, meet mandates and address critical organizational needs. At budget workshops in April departments presented expansion requests for fiscal year 22-23 some of which have been included as CEO recommended expansions these expansions total 6.8 million and address statutory requirements board priorities and other department operational needs And finally, as we develop the budget, we have to consider emerging issues that create short-term or long-term demands on resources and how we will deal with the issues to ensure continued fiscal stability.
Our office has emphasized a five year forecast process that continually updates as decisions are made and obligations are incurred. The total operating budget for the County of Santa Barbara for fiscal year 22-23 is $1.41 billion and supports a workforce of 4,460 FTE or employees. This is an increase of $60 million or 111 FTE from last fiscal year. This chart shows total operating revenues by categories. Nearly 39% of revenues received by the county are from federal and state sources, and includes $27.3 million in allocated ARPA funds. The next largest category is taxes at 28%, which includes property taxes, sales taxes, transient occupancy tax, and cannabis tax revenues. The third-largest source is charges for services at 25%.
This chart shows operating revenues by fund. The County General Fund, which funds most of the county operations receives or collects $509 million or 36% of the budget. Of the 509 million about 340 million is considered discretionary general revenue that the Board of Supervisors has some limited flexibility on spending. Discretionary revenues of $340 million is a slight increase of 3.9% from last fiscal year. While growth in property taxes, sales taxes and TOT remain strong they are offset by reduction in cannabis tax revenue Here's a further breakdown of discretionary general revenues. Of the $340.6 million for fiscal year 22-23, 265 million or 78% is from property taxes. Cannabis tax total $16.3 million or 4.8% of the total for fiscal year 22- 23.
This is a decrease of $2.8 million from the 21-22 adopted budget of $19.1 million. Reflecting the continued volatility in the market, but also some optimism that the pace of permitting and business coming online will increase in fiscal year 22-23. Our office will continue to watch this revenue stream closely in the coming year. Sales tax and TOT total $14.2 million and 15.2 million respectively.
Other discretionary revenues shown as $22.3 million for 2022-23 includes franchise taxes Franchise fees rather, interest income state federal payments and the county cost allocation services. This chart shows the operating expenditures by category. Salary and benefits continue to be the largest expense for the county at 53% of the budget. Recommended salary and benefit costs of $730.5 million in 22-23, an increase of $29.9 million or 4.3%. Represent the combined impacts of the addition of 111 FTE employees and projected increases in labor costs primarily salaries.
Each year, the Santa Barbara County Employees Retirement System or SB CSRS Board sets employer contribution rates based on an actuarial valuation. This chart shows the county's retirement contributions, net of employees negotiated share of costs since fiscal year 2018-19. The county's net retirement contribution increases only slightly by $800,000 or 0.5% from fiscal year 21-22 adopted budget do significantly lead to investment returns slightly more than 25% in the pension fund at June 30th 2021.
The county's retirement contribution totals $175.3 million in 22-23, however employee costs sharing offsets this growth by $7.6 million to net to the $167. 6 million on the slide.
I don't want to leave that slide without you know, I mean, I think this is kind of the testament to good fiscal planning that the county has been engaged in the fact In a couple years' time that we absorbed a $23 million rise in expense without affecting operations is quite an accomplishment. So I just don't think that this should pass by without that notation.
Thank you, Supervisor. Of note the 15 million increase from 2021 to 21-22 Is primarily related to losses incurred from 1920, where the investment rate of return was .78%, which is significantly less than the 7% assumed. This chart shows the general fund contribution by functional group. Public safety continues to receive the largest contribution of 156.7 million, or 46% of the allocation. The second-largest allocation is to the policy and executive function at 93.4 million, or 27%, of which a significant portion is related to general county programs that covers the NBJ funding plan at 19.3 million, 18% funding policy at 11.6 million, and other policy commitments in reserve increases.
This chart shows the staffing levels over five years by functional area. The recommended budget includes a workforce of 4,460 full-time equivalents which is an increase of 111 FTE from the 21-22 adopted budget. Staffing additions are largely attributable to new revenue sources such as grants or state funding particularly in behavioral wellness and DSS and efforts to improve operations and service delivery or meet new and emerging needs. The increase in FTEs is the net result of increases largely in social services at 27 FTE and behavioral wellness at 36 FTE. Now we're going to go into the budget expansions recommended by the CEO, and these were mostly board-directed at workshops or emerging issues.
CO recommended expansions are those that have been added to the recommended budget since April workshops based on directions we heard at the meeting or other issues that were determined to rise to the need of inclusion. The first item on this list is the Community Service Department, Zero Emissions Transportation Specialist. This is one FTE for one-time funding of $165,000. Under General County Programs, the Waterfront Infrastructure Feasibility Study of $100,000 and North County Youth Services at $200,000, this is a two year project for the north county.
General services, EV infrastructure of 400,000. This total project is about 1.5 million so this is the cost that are going to be needed in 22-23. Human resources and management compensation study increase of 115,000 Planning and development, long-range planning consultant for year one. This is a three-year pilot for one time funding of $562,500. Sheriff Corner, human trafficking detective, won FTE at $288,300.
For the Treasurer Tax Collector, one Veteran Services Representative, 109,700. We did want to note that we did work with the Treasurer Tax Collector Department. They were able to restore three positions within their department, one of which was another Veteran Services Representative, which gets them to five Veterans Representatives of the six that they were, that the commission was seeking.
Transient Occupancy Tax Compliance position, one FTE at $208,700. ORCUT under the Capital Improvement Program priorities we heard ORCUT library acquisition of $500,000. MODOC multimodal trail phase two, $500,000 Mission Canyon sewer extension, $500 thousand and the Refugio right-of-way at $400,000 The items continue to list is about 2.3 million of priority projects that your board heard at the workshops starting with Santa Maria public defender office reconfiguration, then the Santa Barbara courthouse exterior lighting upgrades North County Communications shop retrofit, new Qayouma Sheriff substation reconfiguration. The ADA restroom upgrade at Recon Beach Park and BetterAvia campus building weatherization window replacement.
The final item was a reserve or set aside of the remaining balance of one-time funds available from the workshops. That's $419,200 and we're holding it in emerging issues. Staff does recommend that this balance be held and used in fiscal year 23-24 towards year two of the long range planning consultant or the EV infrastructure cost balance of 1.1 million needed in fiscal year 23- 24.
So that totals the CO recommended expansions, 5 FTE and $606,700 of ongoing and $6,236,700 of one-time funding. Your board at workshops also approved the final allocation of the ARPA funds. This included about 5.9 million in general fund backfill projects, including criminal justice data and discovery activity positions, three data analysts and two LOPs over a three-year period.
Criminal Justice Data Dashboard, co-response teams for three years, this is the sheriff's portion. Court backlog prior to budgeted costs, and these are from prior years so we're just reimbursing The county essentially and earmark remaining general fund for the two years, two and three years of all the items listed above. So we do allocate this back to your board for each year of those budget cycles.
Also included on the list were project clean water mandate projects for $743,600. The Ivy Community Center sewer replacement and other improvements. The hearing room improvements in closed captioning. The Deputy District Attorney court backlog position, these are two for 312,000. $800, and the same for the public defender for court backlog. I did want to note that the departments worked on a joint strategic plan submitted as BIF number one that supports the use of these positions.
Earmark remaining on those for over two years is that 1.2 million so we will support the funding for that. Under the health and human services plan, we have organization technology projects, community well-being, housing and homeless projects and disaster resiliency totaling $10,756,896. In addition, your board approved the Public Safety Radio Network allocation of discretionary revenue of $17.6 million and a remaining balance of $444,600 to HVACs or other projects.
We do anticipate that minor changes in estimates for projects up and down will result in updates and occasional modifications needed from your ward throughout the year And we will provide those updates as necessary. That totals for the allocation that was done on April 14th, 4 FTE at $38.3 million. Now we'd like to go into some of the final budget adjustments.
So final budget adjustments or FBAs occur after the recommended budget is developed, therefore they are shown separately in an ad to the recommended budget once approved. Many adjustments carry forward activity from prior year, department use of fund balances for one-time items, or other minor corrections or changes previously directed by the board. We did want to note a few of the adjustments. Adjustment number three for CSD is an addition of one accountant for grant management with state HHAP funding. You may recall that the department had an expansion request for accountants to help in this area. Adjustment number six for the CO is a release of 293,700 from data and discovery set aside for two data analyst positions to assist with criminal justice needs.
And this is using ARPA funding for this specifically to assist a district attorney and public defender. Adjustment 10 and 24. For the D.A. and P.D., this is a release of $243,600 from data discovery set-aside funds for two legal office professionals for data discovery efforts using ARPA funds. Adjustment number 17 is the Santa Maria levee trail study, a release of 1.5 million from litigation settlement directed by the board on May 17th.
Adjustment number 21 is for human resources, a release of $270,000 from prior year one-time DEI funds for our limited term DEI coordinator position. And adjustment number 22 planning department release of $348,100 in one time contingency funds for a consultant related to housing element project. Now we're gonna recap some of the cannabis tax revenue information In December of 2021, your board approved an updated policy related to cannabis. As you're aware, the cannabis tax revenue is trending lower than anticipated for the current fiscal year.
Based on that we propose that there are no new ongoing expenditures beyond those approved in 21-22 for non-cannabis related costs. Ongoing expenditures are allowed to support cannabis program or labor negotiated increases if necessary, and the remaining cannabis revenues could be used towards one-time expenditures. And we do continue to support a prudent reserve equivalent of 25% of annual revenue that'll be maintained for revenue stabilization.
Here are the cannabis tax revenues for the past five years. We were projecting and receiving growth up through 2020-21, and then as you're aware we're seeing a decline in 2021-22. Primarily based on the market collections for cannabis in our area. The total estimated revenue for fiscal year 22-23 recommended budget is $16.3 million, this is $2.8 million less than the $19 million that was budgeted for the current fiscal year.
The next two slides will show the total collections coming into the Cannabis Fund and then how that's being allocated. We have $16.3 million in revenue estimate for fiscal year 22-23, we have a prior year fund balance carryover 9.7 million for a total of 25.9 million dollars. Recommended uses include the enforcement costs, administrative costs And one-time commitments from prior year on this slide, including the Parks, Trails, Open Space and Parks Grant matches approved in 21-22 of 5.5 million.
For this slide, the items in orange were added since workshops. These are one-time CEO recommended expansions that allocate the $3.1 million available that was identified at workshops. So this includes the CSD Transportation Specialist at $165,000 one time, Capital Projects and Capital Set Asides at $2.6 million. The two-year North County Youth Services activity at 200,000 and the waterfront feasibility study one time at 100,000.
We also have the prudent reserves holding at 3.1 million and set asides from prior year at 3 point 4 million. This slide shows the prior year ongoing commitments, including the 18% maintenance funding, IHSS MOU increase, the positions that were approved in the previous year, cannabis and education library funding and translation services. So this totals a $25.9 million available with the remaining balance of zero.
That concludes the prepared slides that we have for the budget overview, Chair Hartman. And we are happy to take any questions related to the overview so far or we can proceed with the functional groups.
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So my colleagues on the board, any questions? Supervisor Nelson.
Yes. Thank you, Chairman. The cannabis Estimation of revenue for next year. Can you go back to the slide 19? 29. So what was the methodology that went into our actual 10.8 this year looking into next year for that 15.2? Yeah,
thank you Supervisor Nelson I think we're gonna have Steve and Yves prepared to go into the detail of the cannabis tax revenue estimate.
Thank you.
Supervisor Nelson through the chair. So our cannabis tax revenue forecast for next year, essentially we're looking at prior year payments from the legal non-conforming operators and those operators who have stepped through our processes and paid taxes. Much of the historical data already includes price compression that we're seeing throughout the state There's some conditions where operators are falling off because of either enforcement actions or our June 30th deadline for the legal nonconforming operators in the inland area that didn't make the eligibility list. So we've excluded those operators and what they paid historically.
There's also the operators, again the legal nonconforming operators where they need to essentially be permitted and licensed by October 31st. We're assuming that some of those operators won't be able to make those deadlines and get licensed by the 31st so we've backed some of that out. Those are all negative conditions but there is some reason for optimism going forward.
We've licensed quite a few operators over the last, this current fiscal year, last fiscal year so those folks are gonna be entering the market generating sales et cetera. So that was really the methodology that we used to forecast for next year.
Okay thank you.
Supervisor Lavinino?
Thank you and what's our timeline on Where are we sitting on the retail side? I see we've included a little bit, but where are we?
Supervisor Lavagnino through the chair. Thank you for that question. So all of the cannabis retail operators, the six operators they're working with our planning and development department on obtaining issued land use permits. And so the 1.1 million that we've forecasted for next year, that assumes that those six operators are gonna be obtaining the final issued permits business licenses through us at various times throughout the year Just using information that we've received from planning and development. So we made assumptions in terms of timing, that's the major assumption it's difficult to predict but that's our best estimate at this point that all six would be commencing operations next fiscal year and generating revenue.
And Mr. Yee, we've also invested in a system to deal with the failure of the state's track and trace to actually be utilized by the county. Could you expand? Are we making any assumptions on better tax collections given that?
Chair Hartman, thank you for that question. So we have been working with NCS, that's our consultant and using the CCA data, the California Cannabis Authority data so now we're able to via that data, we're able to see the individual operators product that's first of all plants that are in the ground Transfers that are happening, external transfers and pricing information now we're able to see that.
Unfortunately our pricing information currently it only goes back to about January of this year but we're working really closely with the consultant on analysis and pricing index. I know the board expressed interest in obtaining that data and they said they could help us with that so we've engaged in conversations with them. to obtain that information.
And so do we expect that will yield more tax or we're not sure yet till we have a chance to really analyze that data?
At this point, it's a little preliminary so we don't quite yet know. As part of our contract with the consultant though they have promised to do a three year look back and so we're gonna be looking back at operators that have reported zero gross receipts in prior quarters and will be looking at the data in the platform to see if that's true and then we'll be working with the Treasurer Tax Collector's Office I just want to say that it's
really encouraging the increased
granularity new revenue from that granularity, but I'm sure that it will yield better compliance unless of course everybody's being perfectly honest right now. So you know, I think that granularity is pretty important and encouraging.
Any other questions? All right, I think we're ready to have Mr. Clemente take us to the first functional group
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Thank you Chair Hartman, members of the board. Good morning. Our first functional group is Health and Human Services which comprises Behavioral Wellness, Child Support Services, First Five, Public Health and Social Services. We've included these update slides for each of the Functional Group summaries that have any major updates from the departments since budget workshops. For Health and Human Services we have no major updates.
And here, just recapping the summary that this group receives 8% of the county's total general fund contribution at $26 million. They have total operating expenditures of 482 million and just over 40% of the county's total FTE at 1,835. That concludes this functional group summary and I'll stop here for board questions and public comment.
So do any board members have any questions? I see no lights whatsoever. So, I guess the department heads will not be presenting. So, Supervisor Lavanino? Okay.
I thought we were going to do individual department heads but if we're not all right then I do have a question so maybe not so much a question as an ask. So one of the things that I've been proud of is that we have had no service level reductions over the last four years. But if this budget does go forward as we are right now, there will be a significant service level reduction for one particular program and that is the Growing Grounds Farm that's on Foster Road right by our mental health facility. Growing Grounds is run by Transitions Mental Health Association It's kind of first off, let me just briefly talk about the program. It's taking folks that are suffering mental illness. A lot of them in our programs.
They're then moving over into employment working at the farm. I think we've heard from them in the past that it's a great program. We've had people come and speak. I told them this year that we probably didn't need to do that. I've had Director Navarro out. Walked the facility, was really excited about it and I think she can come and talk about it a little bit. But the problem was in timing Mr. Morrow sees this as something that could be or should be actually budgeted in with MHSA in the future however because of the timing and the transition in that department weren't able to get that built into the budget And so they're asking for $350,000. I've paired that back to asking for a one-time contribution of 200,000 from the county and have them make up the rest of it either in grants whatever with the hope that and the commitment from the department that in the future it would be built into the MHSA budget so that we don't have to go through this every year where we're trying to scrape together one year I appreciate Daniel Nielsen actually took it under Workforce Development Board.
So it's always kind of been a battle of where we find the money to continue to fund this program and I just want to make sure, and if Tony if you could come forward in just for a second, make sure that I'm not speaking out of line.
Good morning Chair Hartman and Board, how are you? This is a great good morning so far. Just wanted to say that I really enjoyed going out to Growing Grounds and in fact in my previous agency we too had a therapeutic community garden and was fully funded under MHSA. I know that Growing Grounds has a wonderful vibrant program that is funded by MHSA in San Luis Obispo County and I really look forward to them joining our three-year annual plan process in the fall to begin discussions on how we might incorporate their program ongoing into our PEI plan under MHSA. It fits very well and we've already had preliminary discussions, and I know some of my staff already from Foster Road bring their clients over and do their own type of mini groups and collaborations with Growing Ground so we look forward to formalizing that moving forward.
And Supervisor Williams has a question
Well, you know it's not a it's not really question. It's it's that we I I'm somewhat familiar with with their work and I think it's great but normally this would be handled either through a contract for services with the county or written request to us and we have none and just sort of that kind of lack process doesn't necessarily in my view reflect badly on them, but it would reflect.
Badly or at least have ramifications if we are going to entertain that and I think that what you what we have to think about a little bit hard is whether partial funding for this group for this year is worth opening up the Pandora's box because I guarantee you there are people that I've turned away, that Greg's turned away and others have turned away that wanted to do the same thing.
And they will be back next year and they will be back in mass. And we remember most of us remember the bad old days and the knives in the jugular that produced over limited amounts of money. So I'm just kind of wondering whether funding this very worthwhile effort is worth returning to that system, because whether we intend to return to it or not doing this will return us to that system because they're going to be back.
And I would just like to interject, this is another question for Director Navarro. The bridge house outside Lompoc has greenhouses they recently got a grant to help bring those back but it's a similar kind of thing. This is more for homeless rather than mental illness but nonetheless cultivating the soil and incorporating that into the training so What would be the process in your department for deciding who would be entitled for the MHSA program?
As you know, the MHSA process is a community collaborative process. This is our three-year plan that starts in September and we bring together all community partners stakeholders as many as we can from all regions of the county and all different sectors And it's a community stakeholder process, so groups bring forward their presentations on how they believe the funds under especially in this group prevention early intervention would best serve county residents.
And if there was a group of residents that came forward with therapeutic community garden that came together collectively That doesn't need to be individual, it can be a collective that they come together and say across the county we'd like to develop such and such a project. So again how that's done is we go to the stakeholders, the stakeholders decide with the amount of funding that we have what kinds of projects they would like to fund. And we do know that prevention early intervention is a primary focus for us this next year as Some additional funds to invest.
And so over this three year planning process, that is what stakeholders have come to us and already said they're gonna be coming in the fall with their asks. So it's a collective process. It's not a guarantee of course but it is definitely based in the community will.
And if the money... So you're starting in September but that won't be for until next year's budget? That's right. If it
starts fiscal year 23-24.
Supervisor Nelson.
Yes, thanks chairman I wanted to respond to supervisor Williams comments because I totally agree we used to nickname this final day of budget hearings the candy store because everybody came in and Wanted additional funds for their pet projects or community needs Where I see this as something different is this is actually a service level reduction This program already exists within our system Of care and so if it doesn't get funded if it's if it goes away over the next year There will be a drop in service level. And so that's where I see this being slightly different than what going back to the way things were before.
I think it is a distinction, but I think it matters because I'm with you. I don't want to go back to having lines of nonprofits and other organizations that come and line up here and don't go through the front door. They come in at the last minute and ask for funds. I think we've done a really good job with this budget building it. This is, I don't know if this was an oversight or all the history on it but it was made aware to me most recently that it was left out and so I think it might be something we should at least be looking at.
Chair Hartman? Yes. So I just want to clarify do you not believe It's a worthy program, but it's not like it was cut from our budget. I just want to be clear. It wasn't in our budget to begin with. I'm looking at Mr. Nielsen and I think they funded it one year. I don't know if we continued to fund it, but our budget director is not so. I just want to be clear. It's not that it was in the budget and it was cut. The program itself doesn't have funding, so it is a reduction for them, but it hasn't been on our budget, it's not like we're cutting it this year. So I wanted to clarify that.
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They received funding last year through Workforce Development Board, correct or no? Now let me put it to you this way. Here's my little speech and it says I want to thank my colleagues because tremendous pressures from outside this room and how we spend our resources. You're right, normally you're right that we had this room full of people I can't go to this organization and the people that use this, that we've all talked about. These are the folks who are going to help. This is what our job is. And I'm going to put $4.8 million in contingency, $42 million in strategic reserve, another 600,000 in emerging issues, and then go back and tell these people, I'm sorry, we can't fund $200,000 this year, and this program's going to go away.
I can do that. So if I have to say no to some other people Like for example, I mean if we're gonna start looking at, I have to find a way to make this happen. Then maybe the EV specialist that's about the same amount of money. I can't in good conscience have an EV specialist I'm gonna hire to tell me what electric cars they should buy instead of a program that's actually working in this county which it's to me that's a small list. This is one that actually affects people's lives and I think we got the director here telling us that this is a worthy program The reason why it wasn't built into the budget is because we had a transition in the department. Our director left, okay?
And maybe we had a director at that time that did not see the value in this project or program. I don't know. I didn't talk to her about it but we have one now that says yes and if this had been brought to her attention earlier because she wasn't here, we would've been able to have this built into the project but I don' wanna be up here I'm sorry, I got up on the soapbox a little bit. I apologize but this thing is near and dear to my heart. We have to find a stable and sustainable way to build this into our budget. It's a small amount of money.
And if I have to find in the budget another $200,000, I will. We'll figure it out. But it might be some give-and-take with the rest of you to cut something that I think is, that I agreed to in this budget That now does not rise to the priority that this does.
And Supervisor Lavinino, if I might ask when we had our budget workshops we did ask everyone you know what is your project that you really really did you not know yet about?
Did not know that this was not built in at that point otherwise definitely would have brought it up at budget workshops and I did contact the CEO's office immediately when I found out about it and said hey I don't want to surprise everybody at budget hearings, but unfortunately with the Brown Act, I can't go talk to you guys all about that this is a problem. So I reached out to one board member and said hey, this is something that I'm going to be bringing. I know it's going to be a problem, but it kind of goes against even my own principles of how we build the budget. But unfortunately timing is imperfect on this one and I apologize for that. And I know it puts you guys all in a bad spot, but I think it's a lesser of two evils.
And just for clarity, so I think we heard from Director Navarro that there will be a process community-based process to think about this countywide. So in the future would that be okay?
That's fine with me. I mean if they compete and they don't get it in the future, I understand you know MHSA funding is also limited all of our funding is limited but I am fully confident that they will compete and be part of the process going forward. And if they don't, I won't be back here next year asking for funding.
Supervisor Hart?
Yeah, I just think we should put a pin in this and appreciate Supervisor Lavanino's passion about this project and the unique circumstances, and we've got a lot of material here to get through. Let's just keep going and we'll see where we are at the end.
Supervisor.
The voice of reason again, thank
you. Supervisor Williams?
You know and remember that I mean as much as I do believe that the budget was almost tied up with a bow, we did have a process by which we could each allocate half million dollars to the purpose that we chose. One thing to think about is, you know, right? Where was my half million? Yeah. So I mean that's the... We did go through that exercise at the end of the budget each one of us putting forth a priority.
You know, I don't remember how that shaked out for you. I
recall Supervisor Levine, you're not bringing anything forward
at the time. I will take partial credit for the North County Youth Services which is $200,000 but that's split between the two of us so...
Okay um so this is one item that we'll come back to and with that uh public comment madam oh I'm sorry Supervisor Nelson. Yeah I
have one more question for Director Navarro. You know there's been a lot of discussions about budget funds for Our crisis intervention teams out there, at least the that we're working through. You know we have the general fund portion that usually comes to the Sheriff's Department. Can you talk a little bit about if we did add additional teams how that affects your organization and what kind of funding would go to that? Because I understand it's a different pot can you describe that for me a little bit?
Yes, so the funding for the co-response teams at this point is mostly grant based and I know that the ask from the Sheriff's Department this year was for officers to expand the co-response team by I think seven teams. We've recently met and done some negotiation. Dr. Lee has put together a budget and a proposal that clarifies how much it would be if we added one, two or three teams.
The budgeting for that at this point comes from the existing staff within the crisis teams at B-Well. And as you know, CEO Miyasato talked about. We are in a crisis shortage, staffing shortage and it takes us awhile to hire staff. We do think the investment in co-response to cover seven days a week at least during the day shifts is a great plan and a good investment. The overnight shifts are not that many calls in the county but having seven day a week coverage is something we're invested in expanding with our sheriff's partners.
As we can and as we overcome our recruiting and hiring challenges.
So apart from your hiring challenges, if the board would have funded additional positions where would you be pulling those clinicians from?
The clinicians will be part of the crisis services team. We are actually reevaluating with that team Operations of that team, how it's staffed, how its functions and what are the primary duties of each of them and how we might spread those out over co-response teams during the day shifts. So we are beginning those discussions in anticipation of an expansion of co-response so that we're prepared to adapt and adjust as needed.
Thank you.
And if I might follow on that we're also looking at fire as a way to supplement the existing co response and so we're still exploring the best ways to grow it is that correct.
Yes, to do a medical co-response would be different than the sheriff's co response and it deals with a different population of comorbidities. But yes, and that would probably be a lesser not a seven day a week at this time venture because we're still trying to analyze the data in terms of the necessity in the need
Thank you. Supervisor Nelson, did you have something else? Supervisor Williams.
I just had a different question either for General Services or for Jeff. You know, a lot of questions have come up after the Evalde shooting on interoperability of the radio systems. Are you prepared to speak about that or a little bit later?
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Supervisor Williams to the chair. So we are in the final process of developing the plan and we've gone through all the technical requirements of coverage throughout the county, looking at the required number repeater sites, the equipment that's needed in order to make sure that we enhance the radio coverage for our public safety departments And so that's coming to conclusion really almost as we speak.
That then drives the final design and then the implementation, so that's all being worked closely with our law enforcement partners as well as our fire partners to make sure that we're enhancing coverage, maintaining or maximizing the ability to provide these key services to the public and protecting our staff.
And in it, are we ensuring that not only can our firefighters and our sheriffs talk to each other but that most if not all of the agencies in the county can talk to each other?
Yes, Supervisor Williams. We are looking at that and in fact are building that capacity of the capability into the system that we have abilities to talk to both those agencies in the north which operate on a different frequency than we do but be able to have interconnectivity and communication so that's all being incorporated in the design of the project.
Thank you.
All right with that Madam Clerk public comment?
Chair Hartman and members of the board, we have two requests to speak on the Health and Human Services Functional Group. We're going to remain here in Santa Barbara and begin with Pam Niko to be followed by Gerald Chase.
And before she starts I'll close public comment on this functional group right now.
Thank you.
Good morning Chair Hartman and Supervisors. My name is Pam Niko I'm the CEO of the San Ynez Valley Senior Citizen Foundation, and Mr. Williams, I do appreciate the fact that what you said that this today that you didn't want a whole lot of the nonprofits but We are in a crisis, and I assume that this is emergency funding. We are in a crisis and I would be remiss to 402 of my seniors and 45 veterans every day if I didn't come and explain the crisis that we're in.
We do Meals on Wheels, we are in a crisis situation. We have been talking to different departments here that have called from the county since we last asked for funding to try to work out a solution working with other organizations and neither one of those organizations have the funds to combine our Meals on Wheels program so I am asking for $65,000 to keep our program going We are still open to working with other organizations and we're leaving that open, but for us to be able to continue and that we're going to be needing some emergency funding.
I am open to any and all of help that the county can give us or ways that we can help put this together. I just want to give you a really short example. Up until eight weeks ago, we were spending $200 a day on milk. We're now up to $600 a day. Just in the last two weeks, we've added 12 clients. I don't know what to do unless we have some help from the county so I would really appreciate it and really, really appreciate your consideration. Thank you.
Miss Nico, I have a question for you. Of the people you serve do you track how many are below the poverty line? Yes. And could you share
that? 85% of our clients are on scholarships they pay nothing at all
and so and the absolute number for that would be
I'm sorry, for
the seniors.
So what is 85% of 420? I don't have the exact number we just got the new numbers. I'll figure that one out. Sorry.
So that helps.
That is the absolute that is the absolute 350. Thank you so much. That's why he's the budget guy. I'm a really great cook, not so great one. So that's the amount of people that we have to feed that have no other alternative from us. Oh, the timer is not going off. So we were asked to talk to Lompoc Hospital to see if they could combine efforts with us, and I did that. It's going to take about five hours from the time that they prepare their meals that we can get to Lompoc and get them out and get them distributed out. We've been working with the Adderdag at home They have a waiting list, and so for us to get 402 people on there they would take them by person-by-person.
So you can see how long it would take to get every single one of our clients on the waiting list. I have not gone to Santa Maria to check, but I'm assuming that if it takes us from five hours preparation from Lompoc that it's going to take us longer from Santa Maria. Just because of where our location is we're just in a situation. We are meeting on the 22nd with Alan Hancock and seeing if maybe their food program and our food program can work together even as far as getting interns to reduce some of our employment costs. Thank you, thank you. You're hustling? I'm hustling.
Thank you very much for your time and consideration.
We will now go to our final speaker, Gerald Chase. Gerald?
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Good morning. Thank you for allowing me to speak to you I am an unpaid volunteer to the organization that Pam just spoke to you about. I'm a veteran, I was brought up in World War II and understood the perils and the dangers and what war does to you. I went to college at UCLA and immediately was drafted into the Army upon my graduation and ended up in the Korean War.
And that war, I understood more because I was there and part of it. I passed a CPA exam as a student at UCLA Got out of the army, went back to UCLA for a master's and I couldn't read a piece of paper and understand what I was reading. But I needed $138 so I stayed at UCLA for six months got all incompletes and then went out to try to get a job. I understand the problems of a veteran, because I am one.
And I understand the problems of a veteran in that you are different after you come out before you went in. Because when you go in, you're 20 years old and the primary thing of war is to kill other people and not get killed yourself. I went on and fought the battle of life, and was reasonably successful by my own lunch. I've been fighting for veterans most of my life.
I formed my first foundation in 1992. I was living here in Santa Nez. I found out about this foundation, the one that Pam just spoke about recently And I am now part of it. I asked if I could volunteer, if I could be on the Board of Governors because I am primarily concerned about the veterans but also the underprivileged. The veterans gave part of their lives for this country and for everybody sitting in this room The gold stars, which we knew a lot about in World War II, which you don't hear about much anymore. They gave the most.
I'm 90 years old now. They talk about seniors as kind of a funny term. You know they're senior citizens. They're not, they're people. They've gone through their productive years. They did what they had to do. We serve the government. And as we got older, most can't be as productive. And that's no reason to throw them away. Not at all. Just like we help disabled veterans that can't walk, wheelchairs, we do all of that in my organizations.
But in this organization they do something that is vital They give them food every day. They take them to the VA hospital, they take them to doctor's appointments. They give them a feeling that they are still people that are wanted, cared about and they are part of the society. And therefore I'm asking you to please reconsider The fact that you withdrew any support for this foundation in the current budget. They're asking, I believe, for $50,000 which is nothing for a county of this size.
I give to them, we'll get more to give to them but the county is the government And I'm asking for the veterans who helped to allow the government to be here today by putting their lives on the line. We're not asking for you to give us something for nothing, and I guarantee you, I personally get no monetary benefit of anything that you're doing for the foundation. I am a donor.
So I'm asking you as a human person, please reconsider your decision.
Thank you and thank you for coming today and sharing that with us.
And that concludes public comment on this functional group.
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All right we'll turn next then to the second functional group General Government and Support Services Mr. Clemente
Thank you, Chair Hartman. The departments in this group include Auditor-Controller, Clerk or Courier Assessor, General Services, Human Resources and the Treasurer Tax Collector Public Administrator. We did have three departments, Auditor Controller, General Services and Human Resources that added additional positions after workshops for the implementation of the ERP project that was funded out of the set aside we've been building up for this purpose.
Additionally, the CEO's office as Nancy mentioned earlier worked with Treasure Tax Collector after the workshops to take a closer look at their revenues and mutually determined that there was the ability to restore three previously unfunded positions that have been discussed at the workshops. A veteran services rep, a financial office professional and a public administrator conservator.
This functional group receives 12% of the total GFC at $42 million with 121 million in operating expenditures and just under 10% of the county's total FTE at 386. The CEO recommended expansions for this group, which Nancy touched on earlier. Total 2 FTE and 318,000 ongoing GFC as well as $2.1 million in one-time funds. And finally the only expansion request from this group that wasn't funded in the recommended budget was the remaining veteran services rep from TTC.
As Nancy mentioned at workshops, the department had requested three additional veteran services rep to bring them from 3 to 6 funded FTE in the 22-23 budget With the restoration of one position and the CEO recommended expansion using ongoing GFC for the second position, this brings the department to a total of five funded reps in 22-23. What we see on the slide is the remaining request from the workshop.
That concludes this functional group and I'll stop for questions and comments.
Okay do we have any board members who have any questions on this functional group? All right. Madam Clerk, public comment?
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Chair Hartman and members of the board yes we have one request to speak on the general government and support services functional group. We're going to remain here in Santa Barbara for Alvin Salegi.
We do this a little bit differently. So we do the whole group at once, and so
the treasure tax
collector is in there.
I'm waiting to see if it's still in the budget for our additional veteran service representatives. So I'll wait for that. And if it not, I hope in your deliberations that you put it back in. And if it's still there, thank you very much.
Well we did add, we're up to five and so next year we'll think about the sixth if that's all right with you. So
we made a jump this year.
Fantastic thank you very much.
Thank you.
And that concludes public comment on this functional group.
All right let's keep going shall we? So the next functional group is Public Safety. Mr. Clemente?
Okay, in this functional group we have Court Special Services, District Attorney, Fire, Probation, Public Defender and the Sheriff's Office. Updates for the Public Safety Functional Group include the addition of a CCP-funded position in probation for a multiagency assessment, case management and reentry coordinator. As well as the inclusion via final budget adjustment on attachment A2 of one legal office professional in both public defender and district attorney to assist with workload and discovery funded from previously set aside funds.
Public safety receives almost 50% of the county's GFC at $157 million, with $413 million in operating expenditures and 36% of the county's total FTE at just about 1600. Recommended expansions for this group total six FTE with just over a million dollars in ongoing and one-time costs. The post conviction review attorney that we see here was an expansion request at workshops that the DA was ultimately able to fund themselves with existing funding that was freed up after they received ARPA funding for the court backlog attorneys.
The remaining expansion requests from the public safety departments include a cyber crimes investigator and a halftime legal office professional to assist in post-conviction relief from the DA. And the DA's request total 1.5 FTE and about $246,000 in ongoing expenses. From the Sheriff, we see a seven FTE request to expand their co-response staffing. An additional narcotics team with five FTE.
An additional cannabis compliance team with five FTE. Community resource deputies in both Orcutt and Montecito. Six SSTs at the Northern Branch Jail to perform tasks that would free up six custody deputies to work in post positions. Next slide. A supervising accountant to assist in their financial division and two SSTs to assist detectives in the Criminal Investigations Bureau.
The sheriff requests total 28 FTE, $4.8 million in ongoing costs and about 1.2 million one time. And that concludes this functional group and I'll stop again.
All right comments questions from the board? Supervisor Williams
So I just want the CEO to reinforce that there is money available and budgeted for overhire strategies. That, I just want that to be really clear to the department Because we over time is a worse enemy than hiring. We want the hiring, we want more positions filled. This is something that Supervisor Nelson and I talked about at the budget deliberations when you just want to make that super crystal clear that there is money available for the hiring.
Supervisor Williams to the chair just to confirm to that your board approved the release of what we call over higher program funds that are sitting in prop 172 to assist with to help mitigate some of their overtime costs for the current year. In the budget, we are earmarking in Prop 172 again to establish that for 22-23. We have committed as part of that approval process for the current year to come back to your board with a budget development policy that'll address OT mitigation efforts and other policy issues related to cost increases for public safety and we'll be doing that before December so that we have direction on how to move forward with those funds.
And if the department cannot do that hiring, it has not accomplished that I want to just put out there that instead of coming to us with requests for more overtime That perhaps we should consider the more civilianized positions, which has been a successful and fiscally prudent way to handle some of this in the past. And by the way, this is not a stunt to get more money for childcare.
It might be the right time to strike on that. But this is my daughter Kaya. No preschool got canceled today so...
Supervisor Williams to the chair. So a couple of things, so yes as Ms. Anderson said the money is set aside for the overhires as we've done in the past but as you requested at the workshops. The sheriff has not always been able to access that money the way we've structured the program so that's why Ms. Anderson we want to work with the Sheriff's Office They can't access it because we want them to do the overhire. And so, we're gonna look at the program and how we've set it up because we want them to get their positions filled. So that's what we'll be doing and coming back to you in this next fiscal year with different ways of doing that.
As far as civilianization, we agree and we applaud the sheriff for doing that. In addition to coming back on trying to reformat the overhire so that it's useful for the Sheriff Department, we also are gonna come back We see a lot of expenses in the Sheriff's Department coming ahead that we have not planned for and it is not in our five-year forecast. These are significant issues, and so when we put this budget together, we earmarked several funds in Prop 172 because there are significant issues that are going to be facing the board that we're going to have to have serious conversations with your board and the sheriff on lots of different things, and we can talk about that more if that comes up But we want to be coming back to you on lots of different things regarding the sheriff's budget.
And so stay tuned for that discussion.
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Supervisor Lavanina through the chair. So you're going to start hearing conversations starting in July about public safety, jail staffing these types of things so we're starting in July and then our plan is before December to have a conversation about the OT mitigation Jail staffing, the jail staffing studies and the funding availability for some of these things. We also have the Northern Branch Jail Operation Study, I mean sorry, Plan. As you know that we are committing about $19.3 million in the current year.
A little bit more than it tends to grow for the operation at NBJ. And we're seeing that past the 22-23 year where the plan stops. So, we need to have that conversation with your board in all of these staffing issues in totality and costs that are driving up on public safety and that will need to happen before we build our 23-24 budget.
And seeing no more lights up here, public comment?
Chair Hartman and members of the board, we have no request to speak on the Public Safety Functional Group.
Okay then I think we'll just keep going and turn to our next functional group Community Resources and Public Facilities. Mr. Clemente?
Thank you Chair Hartman. Community Resources and Public Facilities departments include Agricultural Commissioner, Weights & Measures, Community Services, Planning and Development, and Public Works. Updates since workshops for this functional group include the addition of the 1.5 million to public works via a final budget adjustment to fund the Santa Maria levee trail study, as directed by the board at the May 17th hearing.
Additionally community services which initially had an expansion request for two accountants was able to fund one themselves out of homeless housing assistance and prevention grant administration funds. This functional group receives 6% of the county's total GFC at $22 million, with $285 million in operating expenditures and 535 FTE. CEO recommended expansions for this group total 2 FTE and close to 1.9 million dollars in one-time funds as Nancy mentioned earlier The remaining expansions from CSD total $317,000 in ongoing requests. About 1.2 million in one-time requests and include the cultural arts master plan implementation, an additional accountant to support grant administration, additional funds for pavement rehabilitation at county parks, and expansion of a solar art installation at the County Betteravia Center.
Public Works has expansion requests including $3.1 million for one time for PCI maintenance and 4.8 million ongoing to fund road operations that have seen revenues falling behind escalating costs, and that concludes this functional group. I'll pause here.
Okay so back to the board for any questions comments on this functional group? So I did have one question. So planning and development, would you explain, I guess it's CEO Miyasato the staff recommendation for the 400,000 that we have how that would affect the new FTE for P&D or the consultant rather?
So Supervisor through the Chair, or Chair Hartman. So when you directed us to fund a team based of consultants for planning we said we would do it for three years and so in this budget we have year one so that's why it says year one and so the recommendation from staff is that if there's any excess funding general fund that we hold off and put that away because we still have to fund year two and year three and so that how that relates
Okay, and just want to put on the record I think that's very important for all of our priorities so we have one year but we need at least two more. So Madam Clerk any public comment?
Chair Hartman and members of the board we have no request to speak on the community resources in public facilities functional group
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All right, turning to policy and executive. Mr. Clemente we're going through this at a quick clip.
It's a record. So for policy and executive we've got Board of Supervisors, County Council, County Executive Office, and we've included general county programs in this group. The only significant update since workshops for this functional group is the addition of two ARPA-funded data analyst positions to the CEO's office via a final budget adjustment, which will work in coordination with the chief data officer to support criminal justice departments. In particular, the district attorney and public defender.
This functional group, excuse me, which includes general county programs receives 27% of the county's total GFC at $93 million. Makes up 5% of the county's total operating expenses and 2% of the FTE at 109. The CEO recommended expansions for this group are all in general county programs in total $2.2 million. Nancy spoke to these earlier and that concludes this functional group.
Okay, and back to the board. Any comments questions? Madam clerk public comment
Chair Hartman and members of the board we have no request to speak on the policy and executive functional group
So I'm a little shell-shocked up here this was our final functional group We're ready. I think to take a short break and come back for deliberations. I
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After a
short break, we're reconvening our June 14th 2022 budget hearing and we moved through the items so quickly that someone who wanted to speak to Functional Group 3 or 4 with CSD anyway on parks issues would like an opportunity. And so I agree to that. So Madam Clerk could we have her for public comment? Bonnie Freeman.
Chair Hartman and members of the board, yes thank you. We have one request to speak from Community Resources and Public Facilities Functional Group and that is Bonnie Freeman.
I'm so sorry, thank you for making this time. I just got back in town and missed the community service section but I had a statement and some photos that I sent and I understand that those went through but there was no comments next to them that that was what I was going to do this morning. So if I could just read my statement maybe it'll fill in somewhat. Thank you so much Chair Hartman and board members. First I'd like to thank the board and staff for all the work on the recommended budget for 2022-23. I attended the April workshops and read Executive Officer Maesato's recent message with particular interest in the regional parks and library section, which is why I'm speaking today.
I'm a nervous speaker. I live in the new tree farm development of 135 homes in the unincorporated area of District 2 and being a community activist, I became interested in the surrounding housing developments and the University Circle area of 300 homes and the University Circle Park CSA 3 open space that we all now share In talking to hundreds of community residences on all sides, I came to understand how this lovely open space was in disrepair and had come to divide the community in its usage.
We engaged in a two-year conversation and surveys on how to get this treasured open space back to the friendly gathering place it once was. I am sure and I know every supervisor here helps their constituents when there is a need that can be addressed within the constraints of their general fund budgets. And being under the umbrella of community services, I know we're a small piece of the pie but this is where I went into it. I would like your patience to look at the photos. I can't explain them and can't show them now because I missed all of that but I'll just jump to sort of the end. We had a meeting with our supervisor.
Oh my gosh, well I don't know if I have time for all of those if you want to do that. Okay so photo number one. This is a wonderful children's park and trail to open space to Kellogg Path in the courts. Photo number two. This is our open space how it looked from like 2003 and 2005. Notice the beautiful lawn and the backstop for softball. And then notice the trees along the right hand side Photo number three. This would be the current photo of the open space and it shows that the trees have been taken away from the right-hand side to put in a pathway, a wonderful pathway and a great capital improvement project but it had unintended consequences with new people coming in that didn't have access before so number four Just one tree kind of remained as all the others were removed and not put back.
So finding shade for a family to come out there was very hard. Number five, and we were left with dirt access to be able to scoot down to get into the open space which the seniors had to stop coming down because it was too dangerous. Number five or was that number six? June 20-21 I don't have a photo of when Supervisor Greg Hart, Chief of Staff Chris Henson and Assistant County Parks Director Jeff Lindgren who on short notice fit us into our open space and hear our needs for upgrades. At this meeting Supervisor Hart agreed to be our advocate for certain improvements within the low impact family style passive recreation and enjoyment of the natural setting and wildlife.
Off the nearby San Jose Creek. Photo number six, we began conversations recently with Jeff Bozarth who's able to have some to us. Number seven, crew carved out a ramp to put in an informal safe access to get down to the park. Number eight, Commercial gassing began, trying to do it weekly because that was the number one complaint of everyone not being able to bring their kids out for practice were the gopher holes for safety.
Number nine, stairs were just completed this last week. It's an informal DG and lumber passageway but gets people safely down to the open space. Jeff agreed with our suggestion to remove several sucker root stumps to open a whole new shady spot for the picnic table and almost the same day people started to come to use it. Number 11. Our regular ranger and maintenance crew having lunch in our new spot.
Number 12, what's next? Our benches and trees needed along our quarter mile promenade. Cub Scout parents, seniors, families watching practice passive lawn games and everything. We have one donor bench and we wanted more, but we understood the county is not allowing donor benches anymore. And I had somebody offer $1,500 to get one so I'd wonder if somebody could look into how we could have that back again because we'll try to raise money for that. And so the point being that many wonderful capital improvement projects are needed and implemented. And I don't know if the tree farm development fees went into the new pathway and beautifully reconstructed tennis and pickleball courts, but there needs to be room for creative solutions like we have done here for funding the kind of small projects like ours where funding parks, staff and equipment makes all the difference to our smaller open spaces and pocket sparks that bring a community together.
And I just wanted to personally thank Supervisor Hart, Chief of Staff Chris Hanson, Jeff Lindgren, Jeff Bozarth and all those working with us in the Parks and Rec Department under Community Services. All our connecting communities around this park are so grateful. Thank you.
Thank you. And that does conclude all our public comment on the functional groups, and so after our break we're back to deliberations. We have $419,200. Staff has recommended that that go to Long Range Planning Consulting Team first year Next fiscal year or EV infrastructure expansion. And we've heard requests for growing grounds and the Buellton Senior Center, and I'm sure there are others that may still come. Supervisor Williams you have your light on.
Well you know I think this is a tough one to wrestle with because I think there are some real needs out there I thought that going after the staff's recommendation of going after the continued funding for long-range planning, because that has been wrapped up in all of our priorities for awhile was a good way to in the year and a good recommendation from them. But if the board wants to go in a different direction, I think that we should given that many of us turned away proposals from our own district and our own... That were also very meritorious and would dramatically improve people's lives. I think that if we're gonna change You know the rules this one time, then we should all get a crack at it.
And I think that I could agree to fund Mr. Lavagnino's proposal but that the remainder of the funds should be divvied up between the four districts for our budget priorities. That would give his proposal the lion's share, the biggest share this time which I think is cool because he hasn't always leveraged things like he could. He's been a team player and so we should be a team player to him but I think you know like it or not I think people are going to come to us and I don't want to punish people who literally did not come here and did not propose something because I told them we're not gonna fund that.
And so, you know, I wanna at least be able to afford those folks a small amount of funds for not coming. So that would be my proposal.
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Supervisor Lavinino.
Thank you, Madam Chair. You know this isn't my 12th budget. I never liked the last second candy store approach. That's not what this is. This is because of a change, I believe because of a change that we had in a department, I didn't have the opportunity to get a program into the system quick enough for it to go through the proper system. I wouldn't be here, I don't think I've done it for 12 years of coming and saying hey let's give 40,000 here, let's give 60,000 there, let's give $75,000 there.
You're right, there are needs all over the place I probably have the district that's got more need than anybody. And there are a plethora of 501C3s that come to my office on a weekly basis and are asking for funding for a little bit here and a little bit there, and I always tell them go talk to the department head and try to get into the... Try to find a way to get funded through the normal system. So I understand the reticence and the hesitancy But, and I just want it known too that next year, I'm not going to be...
Just because we're on this pathway. I want folks to know, I am not going to be supportive of last minute requests from 501c3s. That's not the way that this works. This is an aberration. And I'm asking for a little leeway But for me, it doesn't mean that yes now the doors open and we're all going to start funding everything. So I've got a ton of those as well.
And so you know it's a pretty simple request. You can you know I'm sure if it's something you're not comfortable with, I'd rather have you just say no then Then us say okay we're going to change the way we're doing things because yeah I don't want to go back to that either.
Supervisor Williams,
you know I totally get why you're pushing this it's just your assumption that other groups are not in the same boat is not true and it's not right And
don't vote for it.
Okay,
it's really easy.
Let me just give you an example we changed at your request change the situation to fund things that were not, you know, park requests that were within the city. The same year I turned away Carp State Park because they're in the city. So if we're changing the rules so that you can get some very meritorious requests, I want to be able to have my folks be able to play by those same rules.
And so I think that's important
I think Montecito and Guadalupe and Northwest Santa Maria should be on the same level. You're right
I did not say Montecito, I said Carpinteria. Well your district is a little bit different than my district but that's all
right. Okay this is what we really want to avoid and and I think we're all trying to find ways that we can help Supervisor Lavinino reach his goal but we've had other you know each of we don't want to be seen as Not delivering for our constituents too. So that's the balance that we're trying to find here. Supervisor Nelson?
Yes, thank you Chair Hartman. You know I'm optimistic about this budget. Taking a look at it not everything in it would be my priority highest priority but there's some lot of good improvements here. We're going to be funding our Veterans Services representatives at a higher level than we've done and my recollection which I think is a huge accomplishment for us. Also, we continue to invest as a board in deferred maintenance and in capital projects I think at an all-time high for this county.
And you know there's a lot of people out there that criticize the work that we do and think that their tax dollars are often wasted. I've been really impressed by our general services team and our budget staff and our CEO's office that they're long term commitment to continuing to address the issues of deferred maintenance Not only for our parks and our streets, but also for our buildings and our public spaces. And I think that's really important.
And that's one of the reasons why I am supportive and optimistic. I'm also as everybody knows, I'm an advocate for my unincorporated areas and I continue to do that. And see that is a challenge moving forward. You know in this budget there's a half million dollars for Orchid Library. Last year when I was chair we did this kind of horse trading. My asks, and then the revenue sources went away.
So I actually didn't get a chance to have those last year. But I am thankful that I got a piece for market library in the budget workshops. I'm also thankful that we've had the Orchid Trail network addition, the ball field lights. But you know as my area grows to Vandenberg Village and Los Alamos there's a lot of needs out there and so this can continue to be a stress.
As we're all trying to deliver for our constituents you know we have these unincorporated areas that are really important that were all that they've got. You know carpentry You know Santa Barbara, Santa Maria others they have other their funding models are different and so it's hard to deliver community services. And so again that's something I'm going to continue to be advocating from. I'm not going to be asking for those necessarily in this budget although I feel like there is some value there.
The number one issue I'm hearing from my constituents right now or issues surrounding public safety and mental health You know, it's not about more parks or more trails or libraries. It's those two things and because of that I am supportive enthusiastically of Supervisor Lavinio's requests. I do see that not as a new request but should have been on the service road reductions in the workshop and that's where I split the hairs here.
I do want to be committed The program that we've been talking about in the past of not coming in here and just be a giveaway to whoever's the loudest or most politically connected. The other two asks I have are public safety and mental health connected? One is, we talked about in the workshop, the community resource deputy for the North County. Now look at what we have out there as far as community resource deputies. We have one in Carpinteria, Chumash Tribe, Isla Vista, the City of Goleta And in many ways, some of those are contracted. But some of those are also subsidized by the county because there's some services there that they're not full cost recovery.
So I like to see that added back into the budget. I know it can't come out of the $419,000 we have for emergency issues. But I do think we have still money in the Prop 172 dollars. And I know that budget staff has been really doing a good job Stewarding those funds for future emerging issues, but there are issues now that we have in the North County These unincorporated areas making sure that they have similar services similar proactive policing Neighborhood education things end of actually lead to prevention and crime and non-escalation so I'm gonna ask for That to be funded through Prop 172. And then the second portion is that we look at the co-response teams, is we have two in the South Coast and we have only one in North County.
So if you're gonna be in a place of crisis, better not be on a Thursday afternoon in Santa Maria because you won't be served. Now I know we can't serve everything but there's parts of our county the north and the west that aren't receiving those same types of services. I think we've seen the presentations throughout the last year on co-response that this is actually a money saver and there's so many good things that come from this. This is an innovative program And I believe that we should have equity between North and South, and making sure underserved communities have the same access to mental health services when they're in time of crisis as those in other parts of our county. So I believe that can be funded also through 172. I don't think it needs to be for the full amount that the sheriff has asked for because I think part of that is we've talked to Director Navarro about is that she can potentially assume some of that within her own crisis intervention teams.
I think we're really looking at $261,000 for an additional co-response team. And again I'm not asking from the 419 and I think that we should put these as immediate priorities for Prop 172 dollars which we have a significant balance in at this time. I do understand that we will have future challenges in public safety in the Sheriff's Department but these are existing challenges that are on the ground today and I think are really important to be funded and a really important part of this budget for my vote
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Supervisor Hart, you had your light on earlier. Was there something you wanted to add to the mix?
Well I think I would just add in comment to Supervisor Nielsen's most recent comments that We do need a bigger broader discussion about the 172 reserves and I don't know that this is the right time to do that because I think there are, you know, for one thing, the ongoing negotiations with the cities about their contracts is a big unknown cost driver for the county and I think we just have to wait to see where that ends up.
Those are big numbers and I know that staff is shepherding the 172 reserves partially to be able to respond to that, wherever that ends up. There's the negotiations for the current contract but there are the future three year going forward obligation of the next contract and the issues that are rough in this current contract negotiation are going to roll over to the next contract negotiation I would hate for us to use all the resources that we need to address those longer term issues. Now, for what I would 100% agree is one of the most successful programs that we operate in mental health services, the co-response team. So I'm a big fan of that program. I wanna see that funded but I just can't see doing that in this context this way. Love to see it in the context of a bigger broader discussion about the Prop 172 reserves when we have those numbers more finally determined
Supervisor Nelson.
Yeah, I understand that but this is our budget hearings and this is how we decide to spend money and these issues exist now you know I think it's a that's the proper place take those money for I think we could go back in and some of the other allocations that we made that I think are lesser priorities than making sure that we have co-response if we want to go back and cut I'm open to that, because I do think these things are that important. These are real life examples of how county government can be effective in people's lives and our public safety. And so I'm glad to have that conversation but I learned my lesson last budget hearings when I delay my requests and my advocacy for my constituents that sometimes they lose out.
And so I think it's really important to make sure that I ask you guys for that and hope to have your support.
Well, I appreciate you asking for it. But I do think this does get to the process that we've been having this discussion for months and this isn't a last minute today thing that got overlooked. We've all been advocating for increasing the co-response program Knowing that we have limited dollars, and that you know we've come to this place where we have a consensus I think we have a little bit of disagreement about today's things, and you have a legitimate passionately held view about this project all of us do. Honestly, I think that's the thing but you know really to reopen the entire budget to do that, I mean, that's a theoretical choice. But I don't know if that's a realistic choice. And then the other choice that you put on the table, going for the 172 reserves, that is a choice too but there is no context to that without a bigger broader conversation.
So it just feels to me like we could have had this conversation a month ago. We would have put together a different budget and we'd be in a different place right now. I feel like this is still the right spot
for me to bring this to us. I do think that it is a budget decision to leave the amount of reserves that we have and I don't want Thank you, Madam Chair. Two things just for clarification. Growing Grounds is not even in my district. I just really like the program and it's
The other thing is I'd like to hear more from staff about 172 reserves and what they are scheduled for and what those reserves look like.
We have a slide just on that, so Ms. Anderson?
I'm sorry, Supervisor Lavenino through the chair. So in anticipation of a question related to Prop 172 we've laid our balances out here. So we had the 21-22 beginning balance at 7.5 and anticipate that there'll be at year end an increase to that about 6 million so giving roughly around an estimated amount of 13 1⁄2. So as with the other county general fund reserves, we have identified what we call earmarks for upcoming needs. So we know that we have our share of fiscal year 21-22 OT mitigation, that's $2 million, that will be used by June 30th.
We have to reestablish that for next fiscal year, so that's another $2 million that comes off the top. We have the Sheriff Alternate Workers Comp three-year pilot at 645. That's over a three-year period. Sheriff City Contract dispute as you're aware of and outstanding claims totaling $3.4 million. Sheriff data servers that were approved in a previous budget cycle at 600,000. Sheriff well path contract increase this is an estimate they're currently under negotiation of $1 million plus not in the budget currently we have the sheriff and BJ operational plan discussion as we were talking earlier That we are anticipating cost increases beyond 22-23, up to $5 million in the out years so that we have to plan for that. So not all in 22- 23 or 23-24 but over the five year period.
We do have a prudent reserve established. This is best practice in accordance with GFOA for $3.5 million. Just to refresh your memory, Prop 172 is based on sales tax so it is impacted by any economic changes. So we have a difference. This is just a list, some of these things are ongoing so we are monitoring and there has been growth associated with Prop 172 and we are hopeful to have really an in-depth conversation with your board again before December looking at all these resources, GFC, Prop 172 around the public safety departments. Prop 171 can only be spent on public safety We have a five-year kind of outlook about what we're anticipating and this is what we're seeing.
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Just let me ask one thing. And earlier today there was a discussion about the North Branch Jail and we may need more money there, and there was just an ominous sound about that the Sheriff's budget may have some additional unanticipated costs that we're going to have to deal with.
Supervisors, so a couple of things. Yes, so we have a funding plan for Northern Branch Jail that's worked well for us. When we look beyond 22-23 the costs are beyond what we planned for. That's what Ms. Anderson is saying. In addition we have this WellPath contract that for medical that the sheriff is negotiating but like all contracts the prices are increasing and so we know it's 1 million to be conservative but it's probably going to be I mean it's probably more than that but they're negotiating doing the best they can Some of the things on the list are discretionary for the sheriff, like the overhire program or the alternate workers comp program.
There are outstanding claims that have to be paid. You do not have to backfill a sheriff if he does not get full cost recovery but that means the sheriff will then have to make cuts to his budget. So we're trying to do this planning to keep a status quo budget to what you have right now so that we foresee and take care of some of these issues ahead. But Supervisor Nelson is right, this is the budget time and if you want to make different choices you can. We're just trying to plan for what we see up ahead and I don't think we're being I think we are being overly cautious. We know some of these costs do exist, but if your board wants to make other choices you can it's just that when these things come due it's either going to be asking the sheriff to make cuts to his budget so he won't have a status quo budget and remember all you can do is appropriate funds.
As an independent elected official can use the funds differently, though he hasn't but he could. And just to remember that and also that some things are mandated, some things we have to pay for in the Sheriff's budget and that's what makes it difficult and complex. But I think this is what Ms. Anderson said, this is what we see and that why we've been guarding the 172.
But again, your board can make other choices. And there's some other things we could if the board wants to proceed with some of those expenses that Supervisor Nelson talked about, we could also look at other avenues it's just that it might happen once we have more information. So if we know that the sheriff is successful in negotiating his full cost recovery with the cities then it would free up some of that we have reserved and so that could be available but they're not done with that negotiations yet.
So there's, it's just a timing issue.
Supervisor Nelson? Yeah
thank you Chair Hartman and speaking of the time issue we also have some reconciliation of ARPA coming through this process and there may be some additional dollars that aren't yet available now but may becoming available in this budget cycle once we start to queue that up Miss Anderson would you mind or sorry CEO
Yeah, Supervisor Nelson through the Chair. In regard to the two items, the ORCUT CRD and the co-response teams, those both qualify for ARPA funding and in fact we're funding a co-response currently through ARPA funding So we know that these are all estimate on the projects that we have for ARPA. Some are up, some are down and we would anticipate that probably quarterly we will be coming back to your board to reconcile and let your board know if there's any additional funds to reallocate to other purposes.
So when is that going to be happening? That'll be happening in the fall?
Correct I would say we're gonna try to do that it will probably September-ish
So again, I don't want to wait another budget cycle To fill these underserved needs and it's not the Orchids community resource deputies the North County Community Resource Deputy we have quite a few Communities in North County that have these urban issues that need that proactive police or sorry sheriff service You know If this board Can make a commitment once we get through these negotiations and through the ARPA discussion that we can come back mid-year, mid budget to rediscuss these two issues.
I could probably be able to get there, but I need that from you guys otherwise. I'm not I'm not comfortable You know moving forward because again this like it's happened to me last year. I waited and You know my constituents lost out and these are you know? I'm asking for for brick-and-mortar things I'm asking for public safety issues And I mean think we all know when they're impacting all of our communities the North County Supervisor Williams, you're next.
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Yeah, I've wanted to agree with Supervisor Hart that it's premature but I'm gonna lay out a different set of reasons which is just because it is unclear of where the officers would come from. We have what was presented to us at the last budget hearing we have over 50 open positions and so you know That's why I've wanted this 172 signal about overhire is because I want more officers, but I don't want officers just to be brought from something else that is already vital and is already understaffed and is already operating on overtime or mandatory overtime.
You know, I think budgeting this now would be self-defeating in that it would be the flavor of the month or the flavor of the year and take away from other resources. I don't understand how else it would happen but that doesn't preclude particularly if the department could make progress on the overhire Looking at it mid-year, so I'd be totally into that because I do think that this is a worthwhile program.
But you know, I think we need to take a step back and make sure the public understands that we don't even know if the decisions that we make of what to allocate money towards the Sheriff's Department are even implemented Because the sheriff's department does not give us the hours assigned to each one of those positions, to say oh yeah this is what we actually did. It's a block of money and the sheriff makes the determination of where that block of money goes to and is used for. And I'm sure they try hard to fulfill the commitments they make at budget time but it is... We don't even know right?
So it's kind of an artificial discussion and all you have to do is go back year after year on what possible service cuts are brought to us, to realize sometimes these seem like a little political of documents. Which one of things can we not live without? And so I just think that We need to concentrate on the main thing, which is to hire enough positions so that we even have the option of doing this.
Supervisor Hart then Lavinino then Nelson.
Yeah, I agree with Supervisor Williams. And I do think bringing this back to a broader discussion about the Prop 172 funds and making it expansive to all of the eligible public safety operations not just the Sheriff's Department but all the public safety elements that are eligible for Prop 172 funding so that we have The whole thing in context, this feels a little bit like it's just aimed at the list that is primarily the Sheriff's Department. We ought to have other departments needs too to evaluate all in context and that seems like a big task. It's almost a mini version of what's the biggest part of our budget? The public safety expenditures so maybe we need I'm into your conversation about 172 in that context
And the proposed September discussion would be across departments that are eligible and not just the sheriff?
Chair Hartman, if we had a discussion regarding Prop 172, that's typically the case. There is an allocation that is made to each of the public safety departments on the ongoing growth This is the fund balance, one-time funds that are available. So correct.
Supervisor Hartman, I think the question is when will we come back to the board? And so what Ms. Anderson was talking about, we can go back in September to talk about ARPA funding and what's left over and could that be a potential source for We are planning to come back to the board on the myriad of sheriff issues, in particular the northern branch jail funding plan because that has to be increased. And that's either going to come from 172 or general fund and we just know that.
And so that's got a conversation we have to have on looking at all these other things. When did we plan to come back with
that? About the same time, sometime between August-September or October. So
September-October, so we could include then that conversation discussion of Prop 172. As she said the other public safety departments get a base amount of Prop 172 but this is over that amount and the reason We've kind of collected the 172s because some of these are mandated costs we have to pay. Not all of them, but a lot of them are set by board policy.
Supervisor Lavinino?
Thank you Madam Chair. So I think what you were looking for was the commitment that if we get to September-October that these would be priorities. You have my commitment, but I think you got your
answer. So thank you Chair Hartman. Getting back to Supervisor Williams' discussion about we don't even have enough officers to fill, but we also have to create the position even if it goes unfunded if we ever help to fill it otherwise it goes through this process and it remains unfilled for a period of time. I've talked to the Sheriff and Under Sheriff Saul Limber.
I'd be curious if he would comment on whether if we funded these positions what would be the status of that?
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Thank you, Supervisor Nelson and the Chair. Of the vacancies that were mentioned we only have nine LE deputy vacancies. The CRD Community Resource Deputy for the North County would come from the law enforcement job description if you will much like the co-response will so currently right now we only have nine vacancies on the LE side. We do have quite a few vacancies on the custody with 27 vacancies as of Monday We would probably fill those fairly quickly.
And also, we have always and will continue to fill the positions that we explained during budget. The Sheriff is committed that when we discuss positions within budget hearings and we say we want this position for this specific job, we do fill that job as was described in the budget.
Thank you, Mr. Sheriff. Madam Chair?
Yes.
I need to understand because this is now the sixth budget I've been here and I've heard you and your predecessor say that every single year. If you fund it, we'll hire it. And it's never happened. So what's different this year that's going to make it happen?
I guess Supervisor Williams for the chair, I would ask what positions you're referring to never happened because since I've been involved in the budget co-response. We have deputies and co-response we have filled those positions.
We as you just indicated have what 35 Open positions currently you had 50 when we came to us last time. That's great progress Appreciate it, but I've heard that and only one year out of those six years When we did a very ambitious overhire Did we even get close? To filling all those those positions so I just I I'm I want to make sure people don't have amnesia because this has been represented to us every year, this sort of narrative that if you fund it will fill the positions but that hasn't happened. It's not currently the situation with what we have already allocated for so Yeah, I'm sure you would fill the co-response positions but then you might have other open positions in patrol.
A time request or you use a portion of the money that we allocate to these positions for overtime. You haven't been able to fill the positions
Well, not totally true. As a matter of fact in January of this year we overhired two LE deputies and over the past four years since I've been under sheriff we've hit that 3% mark at least four times where we have hired within three percent on the LE side and also on the custody side. We are having issues in the custody side right now like I said we have 27 vacancies.
I guess what I'm referring to is if you Give us the budget for a specific position such as co-response, such as a CRD. We will fill those positions where the vacancies are on patrol and is there overtime to cover those patrol shifts? Yes there are.
But if I don't feel like there's enough people in patrol how is that then a win if you take someone away from patrol to put it on co-response?
Well the co-response helps with calls that patrol would normally handle Yeah,
I
effectively in some cases.
You know, the, the, my issue is that you know we we have a historical problems all, you know, and it's a historical problem I want to do something about it. This week, you know that I convinced to interview. So I'm out there every day trying to convince people to become deputy sheriffs but this is a problem and that's what I think needs to be discussed when we talk about these positions like they're gonna magically come from nowhere. They're not gonna come from nowhere, they're gonna be taken away from patrol.
Well first I thank you for bringing the recruit to us And I agree with you. And as you've heard us say for years, we have a structural staffing deficit that we present to the CEO's office and it's something we're going to be working on over the next several months.
I appreciate you keeping at it.
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I guess I'll weigh in a little bit here. I think that, I'm eager to see what more we can do with co-response and fire. I believe that that may be a more efficient way to handle some of it not to replace what the sheriff has but I do think to supplement and that has worked in other areas We're looking into that. Having represented many of the unincorporated communities that Supervisor Nelson now represents, and believing that community resource deputies are the place where we should start Because that's where you get intelligence, that's where you learn about the community.
So I have a difference with the sheriff and the sheriff wins but I would be very much supportive of bringing that discussion of Community Resource Deputy for North County into this broader discussion I can't guarantee that I'm absolutely there, but I certainly have a great deal of empathy for the needs in North County and for this kind of officer that builds relationships with communities not just patrolling around.
And you know the KPMG report asked for more information from the Sheriff's Department on how resources are deployed so that we would have a better sense And again, I think it builds much stronger connections to communities to have somebody who's there. And I've seen that work in Solvang. I've seen that work in Ivy and I want that for North County as much as Supervisor Nelson does. It's needed but I agree with my colleagues on the board that I think we need the whole discussion but I do think it is a priority Supervisor Nielsen.
Thank you, Chair Hartman and I appreciate that. I know you heartfeltly feel that way. I do think this process is our ability to pay action to that. You know we're talking about putting money aside for 172 for uses that include subsidizing other cities so they can have community resource officers. So subsidizing other cities not unincorporated residents So that we aren't able to provide the same types of services to the North County.
But in fairness, we're not sure how those negotiations are going to be completed but the goal is cost recovery.
We're prioritizing putting them ahead of us. Putting our own responsibility above North County families that are in crisis so you know that's where I struggle with yeah I know we all are kind of there and we support the program and that's all great and fine but you know I'm asking for us to fund them You know, I do think that they are a higher priority than everything else on that list of anticipated uses. It's the most anticipated use that I'm hoping that we can fund because I think it's that important.
This isn't just a window
dressing app. Is it co-response or community resources deputy? Just so I'm clear. Both.
OK.
Supervisor Williams.
And I just want to make it clear I think it's just an order, right? We have $2 million that is set aside for hiring and accessible for the Sheriff's Department to meet those and fill those positions. But you know, I feel like inventing new positions just means we go from 35 open positions to 38 more open positions or 41 open positions when there is that $2 million they're ready to spend for overhire. And so I don't, I'm not trying to be antagonistic. I'm just trying to tell you, I genuinely am interested in prioritizing that mid-year but I want to see that progress. That's already decent progress, Saul. I want to give you encouragement from when the 50 open positions were at this spring But you know, I want to see those positions filled and that money we've already set aside tapped in because what I don't want to do and what we've done many years is we've funded these positions.
We've represented the community that were bringing more public safety positions. They don't end up getting hired and what that money is converted to is overtime And over time in the amounts that is hurting the men and women of the department, and over time that hurts the fiscal bottom line of the county.
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Okay so when will we know more about co-response and fire and other models to supplement The existing co-response.
Supervisors, I know that Tony Navarro and our Chief Harwick have been working on it. We've met looking at different models research maybe either of you can come up and say what's the progress of that research? And at what point do you think you'd be able to propose a Fire Co response.
Thank you, Madam Chair members of the board director Navarro and I have been looking at some of the programs that are out in working in other parts of the state right now specifically and I think it's important to note is Director Navarra did There's a large portion of these calls or these situations that don't necessarily require law enforcement, and yet some do clearly.
So having kind of a medical side and using these licensed health care practitioners, the paramedics working under the license of a physician in the county To address those are programs that I've been interested in for some time. I know you have, Chair and of course Director Navarro has some experience with those as well specifically programs in Alameda County and San Francisco County and now in LA County using existing county facilities that some of which we have here in order to provide better services to the mental health needs
And Director Navarro.
Yes, so we're we are still in discussions and looking at the data and the number of calls and what that would require and plan to begin with a smaller pilot staff to see what the utilization rates would be and where we need to go from there. So at this point, it's really about further final discussions likely of course in MOU between our departments and then looking at the staffing for B-Well when we use existing because we're talking about day shift. We're talking about a couple of shifts during the day during the week.
Could that pilot start in North County?
Yes. And in fact I think there's really two circumstances we're talking about. We're talking about scheduled work Specifically, as Director Navarro talked about. And then a response to the existing call load that we have which is essentially response to those 911 calls and then using those county facilities instead of maybe taking them to an acute care emergency room and then being referred to a county facility may be going straight there. So I think those are both and I think they could both start in North County.
And that might start this next year, the next budget fiscal year that we're
planning? We were just talking about that. I was talking to my Deputy Director and CFO Shawna Jorgensen and we're prepared to set aside some money out of our current budget just as seed money to figure out if there's value in it. And I haven't talked with Director Navarro about that but I do think it would probably take an internal effort with some of our existing revenue, and then we can come back and report to you on some of the success.
Thank you. Supervisor Nelson, did you have any questions you wanted to ask? I
know you were suggesting that maybe that start in the North County. Maybe we should deprogram one of the co-response teams in the South County move up north a proven system, and you guys could try that out in the South Coast as an alternative to that idea. Well, I think the chair was trying to throw me a bone there and suggest that might be a good model we could try up in the north.
I prefer to see the current model in my with working with my constituents is my preference. I'm really interested in it, but obviously it's not yet established the way that Dr. Lee and her team has. Again, it's a huge need as you know in the north and the west part of our county. And so I guess I'm still advocating for the sheriff behavioral wellness co-response model equitably throughout the county.
I
just think that this is a great opportunity and I really appreciate you working collaboratively. And the existing co-response program is a phenomenal success, and if I was a manager of a program that was so spectacularly successful that reduced the need for traditional law enforcement. I'd be internally reallocating my resources to take advantage of that opportunity, that's what smart managers do and the idea that you know we need to be the ones here directing that is odd but we're encouraging collaboration from different departments to think about other ways that we might be able to accomplish those kind increased efficacy and lower cost.
This collaboration to find out what there could be from that possibility. Perhaps more input from the Sheriff's Department where they could say, well we think we can reallocate resources internally because there are efficiencies and every time we send a co-response unit, we save patrol hours because the response is more effective, it's more humane, it ends up in better results and it costs us less. And I think there oughta be a way to capture that too That's a different conversation, hopefully in September.
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And before I go to Supervisor Williams, I do think Supervisor Nelson has an important point. And that is that it seems like when it's above the tunnel things get piloted and started and take a foothold in the south. And I can think of restorative justice as another example but the co-response. I think we have as great a need if not more above the tunnel. So, I think it's a message to go out to everyone that we need to think more equitably about the county as a whole and starting things more in North County not always just in South County so I just wanted to take this opportunity to put that out there.
Supervisor Williams?
So I just wanted to add the math portion to what Supervisor Hart just mentioned about reallocating internal resources. If the sheriff feels like they can get some of the needs of patrol taken care of by co-response, they can already shift that position. They don't need permission from us to do that. If we fund it and they just draw someone from patrol, then instead of paying for one position we're paying second time for a position we've already paid for.
And that's why I don't like this game and it's a game. So I just think that... I guess I'm just adding that math component to it.
Yeah, and I think Supervisor Nelson's proposal for the Community Resource Deputy is getting caught in a larger discussion about the Sheriff's resources. And we have the KPMG studies and we have the upcoming discussion about this but how there's more accountability and more tracking and more transparency in the allocation of resources in the Sheriff's budget is an issue unto itself, but it's called into the open with Supervisor Nelson's proposal here.
I would very much like to see the community resources deputy brought into this discussion and when we have that in the fall, I think it's very important and I would be supportive at that time of doing everything we can for a community resources deputy in the North County. I'm eager to see what fire and Behavioral wellness can do on co-response. I believe looking at other areas that we can have more and perhaps at less cost and It may be we would have a sheriff's team in the north and a sheriff's team in the south And then do the rest with fire and behavioral wellness So so, I'm not ready to commit that at this time so I think that means you may not have three votes at this time, but I'm hoping that... I take to heart what you're saying and you can count on me to help.
Thank
you. So then that brings us back to the $419,000 that we have and Supervisor Lavinino's request and how we're going to deal with that. Supervisor Williams?
I think we've had a lot of discussions and some disagreement today, but I'm hoping that we can continue the model of governance that we've tried to do which is to try to bring us all together. So I will attempt a motion that takes care of Mr. Labanino's program request, provides for 172 discussion this fall but I don't think it would be right to say I want the door open on my request and not have the doors open on other.
Work with parks to ask them if there's funding, you know a path for them. It's a skate park it's the biggest recreational youth opportunity for the community of Carpentria. Mind you the community of Carpentry is not just a city it's also 20,000 uncorporated residents as well So I'll make the attempt at saying a
motion. Before you make the motion, just procedurally can you set your idea out and we'll have discussion? Yeah.
Okay thank you. My thought would be to have a 172 discussion this fall that includes the model of fire be well co-response so we can weigh all our options for how to get Our head around this. A $200,000 funding request for growing solutions if I'm getting that right?
And if I might add it's actually in Supervisor Nelson's district you pointed out so it's a win for both
Yeah, I've been carrying the water for you this whole day taking a beating but it's not even mine.
And then I think that if I'm doing my math correctly would mean that there's 54,500 or so per district for the other four districts to allocate if we do it that way and I would just say We each put it forward. We all have more than that amount of requests that we have not funded this year, so...
So some discussion. Supervisor Lavinino?
So if we're going to do it your way I just spent your money man, so I get my own. No, I'm just kidding.
I'm actually okay with that.
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Look, whatever you want to do with the balance. I mean we're talking about a $1.4 billion budget and we're getting down to slivers of the pie that... I know it's so ironic. We're taking out the knives over the last 10 grand. It happens every year. It happens every time. We sit up here and we talk about a couple hundred dollars which is still taxpayer money so we don't want to waste it but these are all Well deserving and if I, you know, I can support chopping up the last Fort 19 however you want to do it.
Well I'll chime in here, we heard from the Bulton Senior Center that they're in desperate straits and so if I did have money that's where I would allocate it. Even though I know we have a discussion coming up in a broader context their emergency need is now and it is for people below the poverty line. So if we're going that direction that's what I put on the table.
And Supervisor Williams, yours is skate park?
Yes. The carpentry is skate park.
And Supervisor Hart, the bikeway?
There's a lot of things and not a lot of money.
I know.
But...
But I'll gladly take it.
Okay, for the bike that we did?
Well, I think what the proposal is to allocate it to each of the districts to determine for the future, right?
Oh, for the future.
There are a couple of ways you can do that if you want to split the remaining 219, 200 evenly among four. We could appropriate that so during the year you have three votes to take it out and we could appropriate to 990 for your particular uses We just want to be clear that the appropriation to these uses, there has to be some kind of contract to ensure there's not a gift of public funds. So there has to be a service or some kind of community benefit which is what we've done in the past and what Nancy has done in her previous county and I did mine was That for this expenditure, we will request then the board offices throughout the year come back with a items. It could be you know the beginning of July if you'd like it could be whenever throughout the year we come back with board items and see what your intent is for that amount for your district.
And that there be a board contract or some kind of legal document that says what the service is. And we would appreciate your board aids, or commitment that your board aids will assist because it's a lot of work for Wes then to have to manage all of that.
Supervisor Lavinino?
Well, Supervisor Nelson and I are sharing that $200,000 so whatever you guys set aside we're good fourth and fifth districts at that point.
So would you like to do staff recommendation or would you like to do it district the other three districts?
I think we should do it by district because that, you know, the long-range planning is for all of us. You know not just for South County
I take exception. I have
nothing in long range planning that I'm interested in. You didn't want one ag-tiered permitting? That was never something you wanted?
It's not a priority.
So, I'm saying the remainder should be divvied up by the other districts.
So just to be clear for Mr. Komeny, is it four or three? I think we're hearing that the 219-200 be divided by three which is $73,000 and that we would appropriate that to 990 for districts one two and three. And so during the year through eight items even if it's a small amount you're letting the rest of the board know how that would be spent. I just want to make sure with Districts 4 and 5 okay.
Okay so now we need that motion Supervisor Williams.
I will move staff recommendation with the adjustment that the 419 is divvied between the $200,000 growing solutions request and then the remainder 219 is divvied between three districts 990 accounts. And we follow up with a 172 discussion this fall about progress in Filling positions and about moving forward, how we can move forward in co-response.
And community resource deputy.
And community resource
deputy. And Supervisor Williams you mean 172 and as well as ARPA because we will know what's left over ARPA?
That's right.
Okay and so is that motion clear Madam Clerk and CEO Miyasato? Mr. Clemente?
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One second, I want to make sure the auditor is clear.
Okay and we need a second to the motion.
I'll second that motion and then we're going to have discussion?
All right so we have a motion in a second further discussion Supervisor Lavanina.
Thank you Madam Chair well I knew bringing that at the last minute was gonna be an issue, and I do apologize for that. And I do appreciate the fact that everybody came along. I knew it wasn't gonna be easy, and wouldn't have done it if I didn't really feel that that was the only way it was gonna get done. So you know, I want those out in the community to realize there's five people that are...
We all are passionate about what we believe in I think this board, these five members have probably since I've been here, this is the tightest as far as realizing what everybody else's priorities are and trying to build those into a budget. A budget is a document that expresses our values and so I think we've done an outstanding job of working together to get to where we need to be.
Unfortunately, because of the Brown Act we can't get behind the scenes and go well I'll tell you what if you do this I'll do that or I could give you this and you can get that. So it has to be done out in public and it's messy and it's ugly sometimes but I appreciate the leeway. I also think it's important to go back and focus on what CEO Miyasato was talking about when she put up all those things that were accomplishing For many years, we had a CIP list and it was basically like listening to your kids talk about what they would like to do. I mean you're just listing all these projects and nothing ever got done because we didn't have the funding to do them. One or two would get knocked off but whether you think ARPA was a good idea or a bad idea whatever, it has allowed us the opportunity to really get into the weeds and knock out some of these projects that have taken forever And many of the things that we're spending money on right now are actually going to save us money down the road, but we couldn't spend the money up front because we didn't have the capital leeway to kind of move in that direction.
So I know the future is uncertain, but we are in a very strong financial position right now. Our strategic reserve is fully funded. Coming through a crisis, I think we've come out about as well as I think we ever could have. There are always gonna be needs, I receive them in my office all the time. You know there'll never be enough that's just the way it is but I think we're doing a really good job of A sticking to the funding priorities that we set as a board.
We opened a new jail which if you would have told me seven, eight, nine years ago that we'd be able to fully fund that. I would have told you there's no way. There's no way we're gonna be able to build that into the budget. We did and so we continue to find ways to fund the priorities that we all have and our constituents have. And I just wanna thank you guys because it's not easy. I wanna thank our department heads for being creative and proactive in looking at these KPMG reports with an open mind And I wanna thank all the employees, it's not easy. I know there's a lot of people that work for us right now that are struggling. Inflation just doesn't hit the private sector, it hits those that work for us as well so you know not all of our employees are making six figures like if you read about in the paper it's always the overpaid government employees but there's a lot of people who will work for us that are actually using our social services department so We've gotta keep those folks in mind too, so I just wanna thank everybody that works for the county.
It's not an easy time to be a public servant or a government employee. We appreciate what you do and we understand that it's a financial tough time for everybody out there but today even though it got a little edgy, I do want to thank my colleagues who have been focused on our priorities and I do appreciate that.
Supervisor Hart.
Yeah, I agree with supervisor 11 you know he said that very well and want to thank CEO Miyasato and all the leadership team for doing all this incredible work to get us to this place and you know it is easy at the end when we are not focused in on the specific things that CEO Miyasato led us off which was a big picture Really significant accomplishments that everybody in our county ought to be really proud of. Strengthening our fiscal stability, investing in the future, being more cost effective with the programs that we operate. So many things here at the initial slides that she ran through but I do wanna and this was a little tense admittedly but honestly when you think about what the Brown Act makes us do and do this in public It actually is very instructive to the public because I think you actually see how this works.
And that is really powerful because there isn't any cloak rooms, there isn't any secret deals. We're doing the people's business in front of people and it is remarkably collegial even when it's a little bit tense. It is something people should be proud of and this is...I think we're teaching folks Internally in our organization and also more importantly in the larger community that people with good faith and Respect for each other can make hard tough decisions that they don't agree about and come away from it With a better result as a result of the conversation
Supervisor Williams
So last week I represented you all by going to Washington for SBCAG, to lobby for some more transportation funding. And I was there during the gun violence debate and it was an incredible time to be there because a lot of things that we've worked on here is being debated in Washington But whenever I go to another area, right? And I won't name other counties in California but that's true too.
People go, so is it like this in your county? The level of partisanship, the level of division, the level of conflict and it's always just such a relief to be
like
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We're reconvening the Board of Supervisors budget hearing of June 14th after some technical difficulties. We have a motion, a second and we were discussing final statements before we approve a $1.4 billion budget and Supervisor Williams you were in the middle of a statement.
Essentially, my summary is that it is partially by us not acting like we are in a feudalistic state and trying to be together in one purpose. Department heads with the CEO, the Board of Supervisors together taking care of all regions of the county It has really, I think, given us great progress as an institution. And it has really enabled us to deliver substantively on infrastructure, road repair, human services, public safety And we have bold, brave moves in store because we're not just going to hold the status quo in that tranquil period.
We are going to push the envelope and do some great things together.
Thank you. And Supervisor Nelson did you have one?
Yeah I just want to make my final comments that I will be collegial in my dissent today You know I'm really proud of this budget in most ways. It is a values document and represents a large portion of the values and the values of my constituents. But there are some fundamental inequities in this budget that I just, I cannot accept. I do appreciate the effort of my colleagues to try to debate these things and I do believe all of you when you guys said that in September will come to discuss this and so I appreciate that. I know that this board has been making large strides to deal with some of those resource allocations have been happening countywide for generations frankly that we're trying to solve But at the end of the day for this budget, the way it currently is situated I can't be there.
And I look forward to the opportunity to have future discussions and future budgets that I will be supportive of but I won't be today.
Well, I'm really sorry to hear that. I did want to say something just broader And why I'm proud to serve on this board and be in Santa Barbara County. I like to watch horses grazing in a field, and usually there's one who is looking out over the horizon for danger while the others kind of go about their business And that always to me symbolizes what our job is as government workers. That we're looking out on the horizon for what changes are out there that we need to adapt to, that we need to be ready for and that I think is what CEO Miyasato has been trying I think this budget reflects exactly that. We're anticipating needs of the future and trying to deal with them as best we can now, So that they aren't a big surprise further on down the road, and we've done that in many ways.
Taken policies that take a number of years to realize it's easy for board members for political people I think this is why they get a bad name is they use up the resources for that time To get benefits and to get reelected, and I think we're trying very very hard and very successfully to plan for our county over the long run and So what you know our rainy day fund is just one example But I think it's it's rife throughout this budget and and it expresses things that were set in motion years ago but we've kept faith and And now we see how much we're doing on our infrastructure, our long-term project list and whittling that down.
We're not gonna get a lot of immediate credit for that but our successors will be grateful that we haven't let them have to face that so with that Madam Clerk would you call the roll?
Supervisor,
you're not speaking. It's just for the vote. Okay. Thank you. Sorry
Roll-call vote Passed 2–1
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motion passes four to one
And madam clerk budget hearing action number one recommended budget would you read that into the record?
Chair Hartman and members of the board, budget hearing action item number one was just previously approved by the board but to clarify and read that into the record. That is a hearing from the county executive office to consider recommendations regarding the fiscal year 2022 through 2023 recommended budget and the board took action approving staff recommendations A through H including staff direction.
Next on our agenda is to approve a budget hearing action item number two, also from the county executive office it is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the fiscal year 2022 through 2023 recommended budget for the County of Santa Barbara as successor agency to the former County of Santa Barbara Redevelopment Agency.
Okay board questions Supervisor Nelson?
Yeah, can I just need some clarification on the difference between the two actions?
Supervisor Nelson through the chair. So there's two items one specific for the county of Santa Barbara and one for the redevelopment.
I need a little more.
I think they're figuring it out.
Okay, Supervisor Nelson through the chair. So specifically your board is approving on item two the oversight committee budget for redevelopment so they have that is something that has to be done by the Board of Supervisors standards and this is done each year.
Is there something in our packet that we could turn to?
Supervisor, it's tab eight in your packet. And I think if Supervisor Nelson's question is am I just adopting the budget? You're adopting the successor agency's budget and so that's what that is and it's in tab eight of your budget book. I understand thank you now.
Okay thank you for asking because I didn't either All right and we have to have, so I don't see any other questions but we have to have public comment. Madam Clerk are there any members of the public?
Chair Hartman and members of the Board, we received no additional requests to speak specifically on board hearing action item number two.
So we need a motion to go with staff recommendation A and B in tab eight.
I'll make the motion.
All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes. Now for general...
Chair Hartman and
members of
the board, my apologies was that an aye or a no from Supervisor Nelson? Great thank you.
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Okay and so now we are to general public comment on items not on today's agenda do we have any members of the public would like to speak?
Chair Hartmann and members of the board we have no request to speak on general public comment today
All right, and so now we're going into closed session. So County Council?
Thank you Madam Chair, members of the board. We have three items on for closed session. The first is conference with legal counsel anticipated litigation deciding whether to initiate civil litigation one case. The second is public employee appointment Director of Public Health And finally, it's conference with labor negotiators. The employee interim director of public health agency designated representatives CEO Mona Miyasato and human resources director Maria Elena Dirk-Rivera.
And the time estimate is 45 minutes.
All right so we'll be back here by 130 a little after. Good afternoon, we're reconvening the June 14th 2022 Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors budget hearing and we were just in closed session. County Council would you report out?
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Thank You Madam Chair members of the board. The board met in closed session one item of anticipated litigation deciding whether to initiate civil litigation public employee appointment for Director of Public Health and conference with labor negotiators for Interim Director of Public Health and the board took no reportable action
So we are adjourned until tomorrow, June 15
2022.