BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 January 24, 2023

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:17 · ≈ 9:03 AM

Good morning. I'll call the order the January 24th, 2023 meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. Madam Clerk please call the roll.

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Supervisor Katz? Here. Supervisor Nelson? Here. Supervisor Lavinino? Here. Supervisor Hartman? Here. And Chair Williams?
Pledge of Allegianceceremonial · click to expand
UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:38 · ≈ 9:03 AM

Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:43 · ≈ 9:03 AM

pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice

Next item of business is the approval of the minutes from January 10th. Is there a motion on the minutes? Second. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Minutes are passed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:16 · ≈ 9:04 AM

CEO report. Good morning, Chair Williams and board members. Today I have a couple of different reports. The first is a bit of good news. I'm pleased to announce the appointment of two new directors who are here today and the first is Jose Chang our new Agricultural Commissioner Director of Weights & Measures so Jose if you could come over here. Mr. Chang has worked in ag weights and measures since 2006 for the County of Napa, and most recently for the County of Monterey. He comes from an agricultural family and is passionate about agriculture. He studied Ag at UC Davis and spent his career working to protect and promote agriculture in the California Agricultural Commission system.

As many of you know, to become the Ag Commissioner is a very arduous process. You have to pass many state licenses and there are very few in the state, so we're so happy to welcome Jose Chang.

CommentI'm Chair WilliamsProposedself-stated5:12 · ≈ 9:05 AM

Good morning everybody. I'm Chair Williams, board members and county administrator. I just want to thank you for the opportunity to serve Santa Barbara County. It's a great honor to be here and I look forward to working with you all in the community so thank you for the opportunity. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:33 · ≈ 9:05 AM

Thank you Mr. Chang and my second announcement is the appointment of our Director of the Department of Public Health and that is Mohamed Hammami. As some of you know, Mr. Hammami has more than 20 years of experience in public government and administration healthcare and received an MD from the University of Aleppo in Syria. During the COVID pandemic he served as a chief health strategist for Wayne County, Michigan. There he assembled the COVID Command Center and a team to address the county's pandemic preparedness efforts, expanding testing, and established and implemented a successful vaccination plan. He is deeply committed to public health, public service, and collaboration, and we are thrilled to be welcoming him to the County of Santa Barbara.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed6:16 · ≈ 9:06 AM

Thank you. Thank you very much Mr. Chair, Supervisors I'm glad to be here it's an honor and may I say that on my second day that drive coming here really cemented why I moved here so thank you for the opportunity thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:36 · ≈ 9:06 AM

And board members, this morning I wanted to just give you a quick status report. We as you know we declared emergency for storms. We were part of the Federal Disaster Declaration and the State Emergency Declaration and I have on Zoom this morning our Director of the Office of Emergency Management Kelly Hubbard and she's going to just give a brief status report. Kelly?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed6:58 · ≈ 9:06 AM

Good morning, Chair and Board of Supervisors. Just a couple of items here I want to focus on. Could you hold on? We're having

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed7:05 · ≈ 9:07 AM

we can't hear you one second.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role7:34 · ≈ 9:07 AM

Kelly, why don't you go ahead and try one more time? Sure test 123.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed7:40 · ≈ 9:07 AM

Perfect we can hear you loud and clear OK great so I just wanted to provide Chair Williams and the board some updates on some of the assistance that were bringing to the county in the community wanted to focus on some of that assistance that's available. So just to give an update our public assistance damages those are damages to public or government infrastructure is estimated at 150 million in total. That includes an estimated 83 million of debris removal alone, so a good portion of that is debris removal.

On the agricultural side we are still working to collect numbers but the current estimate of impacts is estimated at 35 million Couple updates on where and what resources are available to the community. We have had, the county has hosted a couple local assistance center sites about 6 of those that have served about 300 households so far to date. Our goal is to set up a disaster recovery center and local assistance center, so that is a joint federal state and local assistance center. We're looking to have one in the North County and one in the South County, and we hope to have an announcement on that by the end of this week.

Again, that facility would have all of the resources and two one-stop shops that can point residents to all of the resources available including concepts like rebuilding, permitting, SBA loans, FEMA assistance, state assistance. All of those various programs that have been approved so we're hoping to have announcement on that later this week. We do have disaster survivor assistance teams out in the field knocking on doors. These are FEMA representatives or staff who are knocking on residential doors that we know may have had damage and helping them to register for the FEMA assistance.

I just wanted to make sure the community was aware of them. We are making sure that they're doing that with our local cultural brokers and our cultural community brokers at our community trust, and they do speak English and Spanish, and we have connected them with Mesteco if need be. We have SBA loans have been added for our county and so we have that information up on ReadySBC. Those loans are available to residents, businesses and the agricultural community so I wanted to make sure they're aware of those. They're low interest loans and we just got that information that is all being updated on ReadySBC.org We want to encourage residents to register with FEMA if you had any type of damages. I know there's some concern or questions about, oh my structure wasn't impacted or I didn't have significant damages.

If you had damages to your property don't exclude yourself apply let us help you figure out if you qualify for any of these programs so if you have slope failures or road impacts on private roads houses structures agriculture You can go to ReadySBC.org or you can go direct to the FEMA website at DisasterAssistance.gov and register for that FEMA assistance, and then they help to figure out what you qualify for and what support might be available.

And again, that applies to individual business and agricultural portions of our community. We know there's a lot more impacts than what have registered so far, so we want to encourage The last update I have is that our call center is planning to close tomorrow. It is open today and tomorrow, 9am-5pm. That number is 833-688-5551 And after that, individuals are encouraged to call 2-1-1 for additional information or support. And then again hoping to have that local assistance center disaster resource center open by soon hopefully announcement later this week.

That's what I have.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed11:56 · ≈ 9:11 AM

Thank you Kelly we also have Mr. McLaughlin our Director of Public Works if there's any questions or if Mr. McGaughlin wants to say anything.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed12:03 · ≈ 9:12 AM

Sure thank you good morning Mr. Chair and board members been pretty busy over the last two weeks, the public works crews and the local contracting community has certainly risen to the occasion since we've had this historic rainfall event. We have approximately $8 million of storm response work either completed in progress or in contract right now so that's quite significant looking across the board. We have about $90 million worth of damage we believe To our public infrastructure in the county of Santa Barbara. And on the FEMA side, that's approximately $50 million in debris removal about $22 billion and category C work which is also called permanent restoration. And then on our federal aid route somewhere in the neighborhood of about $10 million so that event was pretty significant.

On the transportation side we've been focusing certainly on getting all the roads open to the community two lanes in each direction but More importantly, getting at least emergency access and resident access to some of the communities that we serve. Some of the major roads that were impacted by this event were Union Valley Parkway, Refugio Road, Gibraltar Road, East Mount Road, Tepiscay Canyon, Halama Road and Miguelito Canyon. So in some form or fashion, we're getting the service, the typical service restored now to those communities On the flood control side, we have about a third of our projects are active projects complete. For the most part all basins below burn scars were completely full with the exception of Santa Monica Basin. We did celebrate the completion of the Randall Road debris basin yesterday.

The National Guard came in, Cal OES dispatched them to help us out there and they worked 24-7 for a couple weeks to get that basin clean. That was a big deal for us Here certainly in public works and as your board knows, Lake Kachuma the silver lining if you will came up approximately 53 feet during that event. So that was a big deal so we look forward to working with all parties here certainly throughout the county. We've been working with fire on some of the limited access roads so we can ensure that fire can get in there and have emergency response To residents and as we transition now from time and material contracts to bidding contracts.

So, we're in accordance with all of the FEMA emergency regulations will put a big push on here now to capitalize on 100% reimbursement through FEMA over the next 60 days so end of report CEO Miyasato thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed14:54 · ≈ 9:14 AM

Thank you Mr. McGulpin that concludes our report chair and board members.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed15:00 · ≈ 9:15 AM

Can I just ask one question or ask if the board members have any questions for Ms. Hubbard or Mr. McGulpin? Any questions?

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CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction15:13 · ≈ 9:15 AM

Okay, thank you Chair Williams. I just wanted to make sure I got publicly thanked our elected leaders Congressman Carbajal and Senator Limon and Assemblyman Hart who have been out in my district and yours as well to make sure that we got the proper attention to our area. We actually had the District 9 Director Robert Finn from FEMA available and has been out in our communities And we're getting them a lot of attention. A lot of us in the North County that have suffered damage, were used to being resilient people and taking care of this ourselves but I just want to encourage people to make sure that they are filing the forms necessary to potentially get reimbursement and help because a lot of people are out there just fixing things and that's good you should fix things but you should also document that and then go on the FEMA's website or visit ReadySBC or call 2-1-1 our helpline to make sure that you get the proper reimbursement for those expenses This does include not only personal damage to your property and your belongings, but also to potentially access to your property.

And that's a big deal especially in the eastern Santa Maria Valley and Tepeskaya Canyon who are heavily hit by the storms. So I just want to make sure I got that out there. Thank you Chair.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.8416:16 · ≈ 9:16 AM

Very germane. Thank you. After that I'd be remiss if I didn't also compliment the leadership in the City of Guadalupe. I mean I'm new to Guadalupe. I know Supervisor Hartman has seen this in the past but The mayor was out there in way steep water with the police chief themselves in the middle of the night, moving folks out of their yellow tagged homes. And that's exactly right. They're so used to doing things themselves and taking care of it themselves that we had to kind of prod them to ask for help. So a lot of work being done there but I just want to give a big shout out to Mayor Julian all the city council members Chief Cash they've done an outstanding job up there

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed17:04 · ≈ 9:17 AM

And I just wanted to echo those sentiments. If we did not have the federal reimbursement, we would be in deep financial crisis and so the efforts of our state legislative delegation and Congressman Carball have been instrumental. I did have one question that's come up from constituents which is if you think you might have insurance, in some cases that's a might because question relationship with a previous fire.

Should you be wrangling with your insurance company first and then going and applying for aid or should you be doing them simultaneously? So if Ms. Hubbard could answer that question, that would be great.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed17:54 · ≈ 9:17 AM

Absolutely Chair Williams. So I would say simultaneously, some people we know there's limited insurance coverage for many of our residents. You would probably would have needed to have blood specific insurance and so encourage them to register and pursue their insurance options but also register with FEMA come to the local assistance centers that disaster recovery center and register with these other resources And I wanted to add to something that Supervisor Nelson said is really the importance of documentation. So as you're starting to do those repairs and that cleanup, to really make sure you're taking a lot of photos, that you have that evidence both for your insurance and for FEMA, that you're keeping track of all your receipts, all of those concepts because even if you started the process and you're only registering now, you still have that eligibility and can as long as you have that documentation Go back and look for that fiscal assistance after the fact.

And so really wanted to encourage that component of what the supervisor mentioned about documentation

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role19:00 · ≈ 9:19 AM

as well.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.7719:05 · ≈ 9:19 AM

Thank you, Madam Clerk. Are there any announcements or changes to the agenda today?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role19:15 · ≈ 9:19 AM

Williams and members of the board, I do have a few quick announcements this morning. A memo was received requesting that administrative item 24 be continued to the February 28th hearing. Also a memo was received January 24th requesting that the administrative item number 32 be continued to the February 14th agenda. This request can be added to the balance of the administrative agenda We posted an addendum to today's agenda on Friday, January 20th amending the administrative agenda. The administrative agenda was amended to include the addition of item 36 from the County Executive Office regarding a modification to the Board of Supervisors 2023 committee appointments and item 37 from the Public Works Department regarding emergency response action and impacts of flooding and storms For the Board of Supervisors methods of public participation and to provide public comment on general public comment or an item on the board's agenda, please see page two of the agenda.

Individuals that would like to provide verbal public comment virtually may do so via Zoom by registering in advance via the link available on page 2. If you are using a touchtone phone, you may need to press star 6 to unmute yourself. If you have any questions please contact the Clerk of the Board's Office at 805-568-2240. That concludes my announcements for this morning.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed20:40 · ≈ 9:20 AM

And so you don't need a motion on the addendum, but you would need a motion on the request to continue that two other items.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role20:49 · ≈ 9:20 AM

So we can wrap that motion into the balance of the administrative agenda motion if you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed20:54 · ≈ 9:20 AM

like. Only one clarification for 832. We say 214 or whenever the next Santa Maria meeting is.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role21:04 · ≈ 9:21 AM

I believe that works

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed21:05 · ≈ 9:21 AM

great.

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction21:08 · ≈ 9:21 AM

Okay, yeah Chair Williams I was the request for the extension there to have Mr. Lucas available in person for that resolution so if the meeting on the 14th doesn't work out then whenever we're back in Santa Maria would be perfect thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed21:20 · ≈ 9:21 AM

Great and now's the time that we pull items from the administrative agenda. I have requests for A25, A27, A31, A34 and A35 is there any others that I am missing?

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.8921:36 · ≈ 9:21 AM

Yes Chair Williams I pulled A2

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed21:39 · ≈ 9:21 AM

please. So can we get first a motion for well actually let's do A2 unless you

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.7721:53 · ≈ 9:21 AM

have one other one to pull? A2.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role22:01 · ≈ 9:22 AM

Chair Williams

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role22:02 · ≈ 9:22 AM

and members of the Board, Administrative Item 2 is from the Behavioral Wellness Department. It is to consider recommendations regarding a student support agreement with the Regents of University of California for fiscal years 2022 through 2027.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.8922:19 · ≈ 9:22 AM

Thank you, Chair Williams. I pulled this item because it is of particular importance the behavioral wellness field has seen a lot of challenges lately especially the needs of young people and so when it caught my eye that we were partnering with UCSB to Get more students who are just entering that field as we need them to out into the world. I wanted to ask Director Navarro, and thank you for being here, to elaborate on where in fact were those students be working alongside other licensed practitioners?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed22:51 · ≈ 9:22 AM

Okay, good morning Chair Williams, Supervisors and Supervisor Capps and County Staff. Supervisor Capps so this these psychology interns work in a variety of programs so we have psychologists in our Justice Services Department, we have psychologists in our as well as our adult and child clinics and so wherever there is a need and we try and match the students also with their Passion and their interests. So wherever we can, we do that and when not possible They are very amenable to taking any training opportunities in the county And so we're really glad to be bringing back this student services agreement We had a pause for a year as we worked out some Agreements in this final contract and so we're very excited to have them coming back and Once executed, we'll be reaching out to the department and seeing what the availability is for next year.

And we usually have anywhere from one to three interns per year.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.8923:45 · ≈ 9:23 AM

Excellent. Well I'm grateful for the students' interest. I'm grateful for the practitioners that will be mentoring them and the people that will benefit from the services. Thank you. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed23:54 · ≈ 9:23 AM

And you don't have a request for a separate vote on this item do you?

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.8923:57 · ≈ 9:23 AM

No, that's fine thanks.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed24:00 · ≈ 9:24 AM

Okay please read A-25 in the direction

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role24:05 · ≈ 9:24 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, Administrative Item 25 is from the Public Works Department Board of Directors Flood Control and Water Conservation District. It is to consider recommendations regarding Village Square subdivision track number 14608. This project is located within the 4th district.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed24:27 · ≈ 9:24 AM

And this was pulled by Mr. Nelson.

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction24:30 · ≈ 9:24 AM

Yes, thank you Chair Williams. I believe we also have some public comment on this item. I'm comfortable going forward with that before I go ahead and enter my discussion on that item in potential motion.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed24:41 · ≈ 9:24 AM

We are going to, is your intention to pull this item?

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction24:45 · ≈ 9:24 AM

Yeah my intention is to pull this item. This is an item that has a bit of controversy in my district and something that needs probably a little bit more attention so actually what I was hoping for was to ask for a continuance on this item to give me a couple additional weeks to study up on this. I understand the importance of this as a condition of the project but I don't fully understand the relationship that it has on the overall approval of the project And this has been a busy week in the 4th District and hasn't got a chance to have the appropriate attention on the item.

So I will be making that motion to continue this item, but I do know that there are speakers here that like to speak to the project and I want them the opportunity to have that either now or during public comment later.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed25:27 · ≈ 9:25 AM

And is there staff available to talk about the timing of this and its relationship with the project? Yes,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed25:33 · ≈ 9:25 AM

we have Walter Rubalcaba here. And so, Walter could you come up and just respond to the chair's question but is there any issue with continuing the item for

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed25:41 · ≈ 9:25 AM

Mr. Rubalcaba I know you have had a busy week emptying debris basins. So do you have any objection to hearing this at the next board meeting or Is there some timing relationship that is at stake?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed25:59 · ≈ 9:25 AM

Yes, Chair Williams. We'd be okay waiting a week or two for more questions to be answered.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed26:04 · ≈ 9:26 AM

So this would be the seventh. And I will allow public comment, but if on 825 what would be at stake is the continuance. So that members of the public could only speak to the continuance if they want to speak to the project themselves, they would wait till general public comment and this is just a parliamentary issue because now The motion that will be made is for a continuance of this item. So what I would take is any of the speakers that are at 825, I will take during public comment unless they Come up now.

But if they come up now, they can only speak to the continuance of the item instead of the item themselves. If they want to speak to the item itself, they would wait for general public comment which is coming up hopefully in 40 minutes or less. Is that okay? You want to speak to the continuance? Okay. Please identify yourself so we can take you out of the speaker list. Sure,

PresenterBrian Ross Adams I'mtoday there will be speaking during general comment about 40 to 50 residents havProposedself-stated27:16 · ≈ 9:27 AM

my name is Brian Ross Adams I'm a resident of Los Alamos it's good to see you all. I represent today there will be speaking during general comment about 40 to 50 residents have come down to express their opposition to the project it's hard to believe that has been since 2005 That the residents of Los Alamos have been able to provide input. So I think it's really important that the project is slowed down in regards to continuance, which I appreciate as we find out more information, I would also ask the board to consider asking their construction group to not begin construction and tearing down more trees until this item can be properly discussed and approved. Thank you.

Okay.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role28:04 · ≈ 9:28 AM

Chair Williams, we do have one person that's logged in on Zoom for this item. I just wanted to give him a chance to speak if he did want to speak regarding the continuance. Seth Steiner?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed28:15 · ≈ 9:28 AM

Mr. Steiner good to have you here would you like to speak on the project or on the continuence?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed28:21 · ≈ 9:28 AM

On the project please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed28:23 · ≈ 9:28 AM

Then we'll put you in the queue for public comment hopefully sooner than 40 minutes from now but it'll be coming up soon. Looks like we have one other speaker on the continuance please.

CommentFrances RomeroProposedself-stated28:35 · ≈ 9:28 AM

Good morning Chair Williams, Supervisors, staff members of the public my name is Frances Romero and I am the agent for the Legacy Homes Project now known as Village Square I understand the reasoning for the continuance and we'll make ourselves available to assist in any way to provide any information necessary. However, I would like to state that we need to start...the public needs to start playing fair with facts and no trees were torn down. Trees were trimmed. We did not remove trays We are having a meeting tomorrow night with our neighbors in an attempt to show them exactly how much community input has been received on behalf of this project over a three-year approval process and the fact that this project is part of the Los Alamos Community Plan, and it has had environmental review literally every five years since 2005.

So thank you so much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed29:37 · ≈ 9:29 AM

Thank you, Ms. Romero and I just wanted to remind the audience that the rules of quorum are that we express support or opposition silently. If you're expressing support since you're going to be here for public comment, you can feel free to go like that and we don't have a version of that for opposition. You just suck it up. Okay. Madam Clerk please read 27 into the record.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role30:10 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, Administrative Item 27 is to consider recommendations regarding the removal of Susan Keller from the Montecito Planning Commission.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed30:21 · ≈ 9:30 AM

And is there any public comment on this?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role30:24 · ≈ 9:30 AM

We do. We have two requests to speak. Let's begin on Zoom with Paula

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role30:28 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Lopez Ochoa.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.7730:34 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Please proceed, Paula.

CommentPaula Lopez-OchoaProposedself-stated30:35 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Good morning, Supervisors. My name is Paula Lopez-Ochoa and I speak today as a resident of the 1st District in Santa Barbara County in support of Susan Keller and against her proposed removal from the Montecito Planning Commission. I've known Ms. Keller for more than 25 years from our work on the KEYT Unity Telethon, as well as being a board member and performer on the Santa Barbara Rebels, the nonprofit she founded.

Susan graduated from Stanford University cum laude and then from UCLA Law School. In the years since she moved to Santa Barbara County, she has been involved with and served on numerous boards and commissions and was even honored by the Montecito Rotary Club as Citizen of the Year. I have known her to be a caring woman invested in the improvement of our community.

I've seen Miss Keller in action working beside her producing and appearing in shows and also through our fundraising work on The Rebels Board. I was quite dismayed to hear she was being asked to suddenly resign from the Montecito Planning Commission with just one year left on her term. I'm baffled as to why Supervisor Williams would ask her to step down and after her refusal to take the steps, to ask the full board to remove her especially since he reappointed her just a year ago And even offered her a position on another commission just a few months ago.

It seems as if Supervisor Williams had a problem with her service, he would have not taken these steps and these actions. At the very least, the request to suddenly have her removed without any cause? A mature woman, one of only two women on the Commission with years of service in this county does not have the right optics. I respectfully ask that you deny Supervisor Williams' request and allow Ms. Keller to serve out the remainder of her term.

Thank you for listening to me this morning.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role32:31 · ≈ 9:32 AM

Chair Williams and members of the Board, we also have Susan Keller here in person.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed32:42 · ≈ 9:32 AM

Good morning, Supervisors. I am greatly disturbed by the manner in which this unprecedented not justified action for my removal from the MPC has developed and by the message it sends to both potential and serving commissioners when two commissioners conspire and threaten to resign unless another commissioner is forced to resign. This undermines the credibility and viability of the Commission Such behavior, if condoned and supported by this board creates an atmosphere of intimidation and constitutes a chilling effect on the free and open discussion. The expression of positions and opinions and the effective resolution of disagreement that is essential to a well-functioning commission.

Removal of a commissioner is so unusual in this board's history that there should be egregious behavior to support it. However, this action seems to be based on purely personal reasons. As the targeted commissioner I refused to resign midterm absent a valid presentation of my failure to comply with my responsibilities. On Naomi Schwartz's first district task force in 2002, I helped develop the ordinance language that created the MPC so I know my responsibilities.

The MPC was established as an independent, apolitical decision-making body. It is not a rubber stamp for recommendations of the Montecito Board of Architectural Review. Commissioners should not accept county staff recommendations without question, amendment or possible disagreement and they may develop positions that are not necessarily those of their supervisor Given the possibility of conflicting constituent concerns or political pressures that might be contrary to the Montecito community's best interests.

Three years ago on the MPC, these same two commissioners and their male colleague tried to block the female vice chair from her expected move to the chair position I oppose their action as being unfair. While that attempt ultimately failed, this current attack on the other female commissioner creates a perception of sexist behavior that this board cannot allow.

Otherwise mature articulate women on commissions would start guarding and censoring their opinions and words for fear of offending some male colleagues And well-qualified younger women would hesitate to enter into commissioned service and face possible reprisal. Supervisor Williams reappointed me to the MPC a year ago and offered me a position on another commission less than a month ago. Previously, he has given me no warning nor indication of any criticism or failure regarding my work with the MPC.

It is reasonable to assume that he would support my plan to complete my term if these two Commissioners had not said they would resign. I am willing to endure this formal and very public process of removal because they believe so strongly that commissioners trying to coerce another's resignation by threats sets a dangerous precedent. I do not believe this is the result you want for Santa Barbara County.

I call on you to oppose this action from my removal, and I'm available for questions. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed36:08 · ≈ 9:36 AM

Any questions from board? I'll just say for my part, Ms. Keller, I have no questions for you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed36:17 · ≈ 9:36 AM

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed36:17 · ≈ 9:36 AM

you. That there have been some personal and I suppose disagreements over the function of the Montecito Planning Commission for some time? Ms. Keller has expressed some of the previous events and in that previous event, of course I supported my Planning Commissioner Donna Senauer and Ms. Keller's position but there have been Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the board. I want to start by saying that we have had tit-for-tat attempts to remove commissioners including one just a year ago where Ms. Keller tried to remove a commissioner.

So it is an unfortunate dynamic. It has affected the function As alluded to, I attempted to solve the problem by attempting to find a countywide appointment that would be suitable to Ms. Keller because previous to this issue, I have had a good relationship with her and supported her and appreciate her work in the community. But I think this is really about the functioning of the institution.

And I have requested advice both from, you know, the planning commissioners themselves and from the staff that staff the Planning Commission. And i believe that this is going to ultimately be the best way to move forward. To me it largely boils down to a math game. You know it's Do I keep two commissioners or do I keep one? And the one that was planning on only serving one more year.

And so I want a Montecito Planning Commission that functions for the long term, functions with alacrity for the many applicants whose livelihood and lives depend on its function.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.7738:50 · ≈ 9:38 AM

Okay.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.8438:54 · ≈ 9:38 AM

Mr. Lavagnino, thank you. So my first board meeting this actually happened to me I removed a slate of individuals and they came to public comment and publicly chastised me and Supervisor Farr stood up for me and she said that Appointees serve at the will of the supervisor regardless if it's personal, political whatever the reason is. Supervisor Williams has the ability and the right and the duty actually to have people that he appoints that he's comfortable with him for whatever reason this happened you know it's his call and I will be supporting him on this but I guess what kind of disturbs me a little bit is trying to couch it in a kind of anti that somehow Supervisor Williams has some sort of anti.

Feminine bias when I, he has such a long history of supporting women in this community. You know that argument for me falls apart pretty quickly so I feel bad for Ms. Keller and I know Supervisor Williams would rather be any place in the world right now than having to do this but That's part of this job and we have a long list of appointments. We have to fill sometimes things just don't work out and it puts you in a really bad situation and that's kind of where we're at right now, but It's your call and I know it was a tough one and I'll support you.

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction40:34 · ≈ 9:40 AM

Yes, thank you chair Williams. You know, I'm not a Huge fan of committees that are exclusively appointed by a single supervisor. You know, I got my Los Alamos friends here today and they've talked to me for the last year about law pack. And one of my concerns about it all along has been that I would be the person appointing every member of this committee And so I don't, one of the reasons why I find that somewhat dysfunctional is because at the end of the day, the responsibility lies on the elected official. We're accountable to for you, the community of Montecito in the first district and so these appointments are yours.

I would like the same type of respect from my colleagues and I'm sure I would hope that we receive that. So with that Supervisor Williams, I respect your decision making. The people of the first district put you in that place to make these tough decisions and so I'll be supporting any motion that you brought forward.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed41:24 · ≈ 9:41 AM

Yes, great. Supervisor Caps.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.8941:28 · ≈ 9:41 AM

Chair Williams, I hear the argument that this is your appointment and I certainly don't have any intel on what's actually at stake here nor should I as not representing this area. But I do want to just speak to the broader issue that's been raised of women on commissions. Not again, not specific to this situation, not at all insinuating at all that this is what's been a play but when I was chair of the Women's Commission it is still a factor that the commissions that carry more Juice more weight like planning commissions are predominantly held by men and it's something that we continue to work on Miss Ochoa who just spoke is President of the Santa Barbara Women's Political Committee. They helped get the word out We all need to be doing our best and I just wanted to take that opportunity while deferring to your judgment here on this particular item Thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed42:19 · ≈ 9:42 AM

Thank you. And I think that's a point well taken and should be always in our minds both the diversity of gender and age on our commissions, I think are incredibly important and class but but I think genders sometimes the most one that you go it's no brainer. It should be close to 50-50 so is there any request to vote separately on this item? Seeing none, A31.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role42:55 · ≈ 9:42 AM

Supervisor Williams and members of the board administrative item 31 34 and 35 are resolutions to be presented at today's hearing if you don't have any issue maybe we can take those public comments once those resolutions are presented

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed43:10 · ≈ 9:43 AM

so I will take a motion on the consent calendar under the consent calendars all those in favor please say aye And just for clarity, that includes the request to continue A-22 and A-24. Great. Okay. Then we have three resolutions for presentation.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.7743:36 · ≈ 9:43 AM

A-31.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role43:45 · ≈ 9:43 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, Administrative Item 30 is sponsored by Supervisor Williams. It is to adopt a resolution of commendation honoring Brian Swanson upon his retirement from the Probation Department after 28 years of faithful and distinguished service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County. Joining us here in person we have Brian Swanson.

If you will please join us at the podium I will now read the resolution into the record Whereas Brian graduated high school in Santa Cruz, then served four years in the U.S. Air Force working in medical administration and personnel and was honorably discharged at the rank of sergeant following by two years in Fresno working as a counselor with heroin addicts And whereas, Brian graduated from the California State University Fresno with a Bachelor's of Science and Master's of Science degrees in Criminology. He then relocated to the Central Coast and became a Juvenile Services Officer with San Luis Obispo County Probation at Juvenile Hall, and then moved to Adult Supervision where he supervised felony probation cases for eight years as an armed officer.

And whereas, Brian was promoted to Supervising Deputy Probation Officer and served in a variety of assignments including the Juvenile Supervision over Placement Intake Investigations and Court Hearing Officer. And specialized assignments including Personnel Investigations, Requests for Proposal Development, Legislation Analysis and Program Reviews And whereas Brian served 14 and a half years with San Luis Obispo County before accepting a manager position with the Santa Barbara County in 2008, where he worked a variety of assignments including Juvenile Division Manager for North County Operations, Superintendent of Juvenile Justice Center and Juvenile Division Operations countywide.

Where he oversaw the development and implementation of many initiatives related to youth in foster care. The expansion of the division and the use of risk assessment, and the implementation of evidence based practices is concluding his 14 years of service to Santa Barbara County as a probation manager with the adult division overseeing pretrial assessment and probation report and resource centers and court services.

And whereas, after over 28 years of public service on the Central Coast, Brian plans to spend his retirement with his family in Arroyo Grande where he will relearn Spanish, read up on California history, explore and travel the country and see if he has what it takes to be a premier coffee bean roaster. Now therefore be it ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors recognizes and congratulates Brian Swanson upon his retirement from service to the County of Santa Barbara Probation Department, passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed46:54 · ≈ 9:46 AM

Chair Williams and Supervisors, Holly Benton, Deputy Chief Probation Officer here today on behalf of Chief Heitman. Brian was one of the first probation managers I met when I began work with this department in 2018 and right away I was taken with his wry sense of humor and his quick wit. Over the next few years as we worked with our team and juvenile services to transform our work, Brian displayed daily many of the talents he possessed as a manager. A calm steadiness in the face of change an ability to explain and help to steer each new policy or task and most importantly a willingness to offer his honest opinions about the process and an openness to moving in a new direction. We were fortunate to have had Brian's managerial wisdom and leadership to rely on during that wave of change When I moved to Adult, I worked with Brian again there and it was a rare division meeting where our team did not find ourselves laughing together as we went about our work.

Sometimes at Brian's quick jokes he has been referred to you as the Team Dad and as a caring mentor to his staff and those things are both true but i see him as a key part of each division team I've been a part of since I joined Santa Barbara County. There is no doubt his contributions will be missed While I'm happy for him to pursue his passions in retirement, I personally will miss his daily presence in our workspace very much.

On behalf of Chief Heitman and the exec team, Brian congratulations on your retirement.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed48:26 · ≈ 9:48 AM

Well thank you to the board And to the county for providing this opportunity or these opportunities to recognize and highlight people's accomplishments and to recognize an important milestone. It's been an honor for me to have spent the majority of my professional life in the field of probation. It's a unique and honorable profession where you sometimes see people at their worst and most desperate, but we often see people at their best. And it's there that the Probation Department performed by some of the people you see here today does their best and most important work helping people achieve Become better people, be the people they want to be, overcome barriers and challenges and move on with their lives in a different and more positive direction.

So while I believe that truly, I also wanted to say that as a plug for the department as you go into budget negotiations, you can remember that It has been a privilege to work for two very great probation departments. I wish I could combine the two agencies I've worked with and take the best from both of them. The fact is they're both wonderful departments. It has been a privilege to work for Santa Barbara County, and I am honored to have retired from Santa Barbara County.

Is a wonderful department with a lot of very great people. And again, some of whom you see here today and some of whom are out there working as we speak. So again thank you I would like to say more but I have a honey do list that's growing by the hour so I best get to it. So thank you I appreciate it.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.7750:10 · ≈ 9:50 AM

Item A31 Unless there is public comment.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role50:17 · ≈ 9:50 AM

We have no further

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role50:18 · ≈ 9:50 AM

requests to speak for that item. Chair Williams and members of the board, Administrative Item 31 is sponsored by Supervisor Hartman. It is to adopt a resolution recognizing the Lompoc's Veteran Memorial Building Foundation for leadership in renovating the Lompoc Veterans Memorial Building. Joining us in person we have Alice Milligan, Frank Grubb, Susan Warstrom, Frank Campo, Norm Buggs, Scott Hodgkins If you will all please join us at the podium, I will now read the resolution into the record.

Whereas in 2008, Supervisor Joni Gray appointed Alice Milligan, Retired Associate Superintendent of the Lompoc Unified School District to coordinate the renovation of the Lompoc Veterans Memorial Building which was originally constructed in 1936 through the Works Progress Administration fulfilling a dream of local veterans of the First World War. And whereas, Ms. Milligan began by forming the non-profit Lompoc Veterans Memorial Building Foundation and selecting a committee that met monthly until the renovation was completed.

Whereas the foundation oversaw the designation of the Veterans Memorial Building as a historic building of significance. And whereas, the foundation received numerous grants, the most substantial from the Wood Clayson's, Hudson Parker and Santa Barbara Foundation and Lompoc Rotary and a community development block grant and Home Depot. And whereas renovations included re-roofing, overhauling the electrical system and installing lighting chandeliers, refinishing floors, renovating restrooms, resurfacing the east parking lot, constructing an accessible entrance, and adding a heating system.

And whereas Home Depot enlisted more than 300 Central Coast employees to gut and remodel the kitchen into a catering kitchen. And whereas with approval from the warden, the Lompoc Federal Penitentiary provided supervised inmates with opportunity to volunteer their talents and their contributions included repainting the building an auditorium refinishing Woodwork projects and upholstering furniture.

And whereas the foundation commissioned Art Fulton Leroy Washington for three murals in the building, American Flag Raising at Hiroshima, Honda Point Disaster and Guardian Seal of the Army Air Force Navy Marines and Coast Guard. And whereas the foundation finished the renovation in seven years at a cost of just over $2 million dollars And whereas the County of Santa Barbara commends the outstanding efforts of the Lompoc's Veteran Memorial Building Foundation and recognizes their work as a model for the beautification of other aging veteran buildings. Now therefore, be it ordered to resolve that this Board of Supervisors proclaims that the following individuals are recognized for their tireless efforts in completing the renovation.

Home Dell, Ernie Hutchinson, Richard Langley, Susan Linman, Bob Ling, Kathy McCullough, Joe McCormick, Ken Ostini, Tyler Perry, Susan Warstrom who served as Secretary and Scott Hoskins Santa Barbara County Facilities Manager who provided invaluable service and expert knowledge. And so much of his time the board would especially like to acknowledge the Foundation Committee leadership Alice McGillan who served as chair project coordinator, Frank Grubb who served as treasurer and grant writer and Don Ramirez who committed time and talent from the beginning to the very end of the renovation passed and adopted today.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.8154:56 · ≈ 9:54 AM

Yes, I'd like to take this opportunity to go first. These people have accomplished something absolutely incredible. It's been a public-private partnership that has protected an area. They're motivated by the historic value of the building, by the community value of that building And none of them are veterans. They did this as citizens in part because they recognize that veterans who serve our country Make a sacrifice not only in the time of service, but also in the burden that they carry when they come back and how very important it is to have spaces where they can interact with each other and share what only they understand. And so these people work together to generate support staff to come work. Scott Hoskins, you know sometimes government people want to just do it themselves but we can do so much more if we partner with people in the community and so this has been an effort that I think is a model for other historic buildings and veterans buildings throughout our county and so i was very eager When I first learned about it and to bring these people forward so that they could tell about their experience, so that others might follow in their steps.

So thank you so much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed56:38 · ≈ 9:56 AM

Chairman Williams, members of the board, staff Thank you for this wonderful resolution. We are most appreciative. I'm forever indebted to then Supervisor Gray, who appointed me to serve on this committee, many of whom are veterans. It was a wonderful experience working with these people, particularly the veterans. I won't introduce them since they've been introduced.

We all consider it a privilege to work on this project. It is a beacon at the end of South 8th Street in Lompoc We were fortunate to receive great support from grants and entities such as Home Depot and the Bureau of Prisons who are represented today. The representative from Bureau of Prisons,

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction57:26 · ≈ 9:57 AM

Jeffrey Green and Mr. Bullock from the Home Depot.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed57:39 · ≈ 9:57 AM

Okay. And Team Leader McBride. They were invaluable. The Home Depot provided a total kitchen for us, basically total kitchen and the Brio Prisons provide labor for us. When I read the history of our forefathers enduring getting this project completed it is an excellent testimony to us now on how to get things done. Believe me it's an excellent reading While stated in the resolution, I would like to again extend my personal appreciation to Scott Hoskins, County Facility Manager. We could not have accomplished everything we did without his expert knowledge and guidance. He met with us every month even though he met outside of working hours and in Lompoc. He was always there to provide his input.

Also, I'd like to commend the board for its foresight. Initially when they employed Adele Vargas for the supervision and maintenance of the facility once it was renovated she kept the building in pristine condition and it got off to an excellent start and now it continues to operate beautifully under Suzanne of the Parks Department We're very proud of this building. We in Wampoa love it and it's very highly used, and we commend the board for recognizing us and we were very happy to do this project. We would do it again. Thank you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.7759:20 · ≈ 9:59 AM

Thank you all. It's it's your collective

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction59:22 · ≈ 9:59 AM

work that has made it happen so let's just give one moment

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed59:24 · ≈ 9:59 AM

of applause.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.8159:37 · ≈ 9:59 AM

Supervisor

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.7759:38 · ≈ 9:59 AM

Harmon?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.8159:39 · ≈ 9:59 AM

I just wanted to say if you haven't been there, you really should come by and see this. It's a gorgeous, gorgeous building and Supervisor Nelson had an office there. I now have that office but and benefit from all the work. But it is a beautiful building with a long history.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.771:00:01 · ≈ 10:00 AM

Is there any request speak on that item?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:00:06 · ≈ 10:00 AM

Chair Williams, we have no further requests to speak.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:00:09 · ≈ 10:00 AM

Then we will move on to administrative item 34. Oh

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.771:00:13 · ≈ 10:00 AM

33 sorry. I already did 33. Right? Oh yeah.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:00:27 · ≈ 10:00 AM

Chair Williams and members of the Board, Administrative Item 33 is sponsored by Supervisor Nelson. It is to adopt a Resolution of Commendation honoring Barton Clark upon his retirement from the Probation Department after over 21 years of faithful and distinguished service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County. Joining us here in person we have Barton Clark. If you will now join us at the podium I'll read the resolution into the record.

Whereas Barton Clark was born in Bellflower, California. He moved to Santa Maria in second grade and graduated from Saint Joseph's High School. He went to Vanguard University where he earned a Bachelor of Arts in Religion and worked with youth and families for 12 years in a variety of cities in California as a pastor. And whereas he began his career in the field of probation as an extra help probation assistant in May of 2000, and was hired full time as a deputy probation officer in February. 2021 excuse me in 2001.

During his career, he worked in all three divisions and in all area offices. And whereas during his career Manager Clark worked with juveniles in and out of home placement was the Director of Probation Counseling and Education Center in Lompoc and helped launch the Probation Report and Resource Center in Santa Maria as a Senior Deputy Probation Officer. He later worked as a Supervisor of the Juvenile Placement Unit PRRC's Jail Assessors and Jail Discharge Team. And whereas Manager Clark has a passion for teaching, he has a standard and training for corrections instructor for the probation department and was an instructor for both Deputy Probation Officer Corps and Juvenile Institution Officer Corps. He also facilitated leadership courses for a variety of probation departments in the state.

And whereas, Manager Clark is looking forward to spending time with his wife Julie going on camping trips and visiting each of their three children Faith, Destiny and Luke. He is also excited to assist a new manager and deputy chief as they work together towards expanding programming and treatment options at the Juvenile Justice Center as he transitions into retirement. Now, therefore be it ordered and resolved this Board of Supervisors recognizes Barton Clark over for his over 21 years of dedicated service to the field of probation and extends him best wishes for fulfilling and enjoyable and rewarding retirement passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:03:19 · ≈ 10:03 AM

Chair Williams and Supervisors, Holly Benton, Deputy Chief Probation Officer again here on behalf of Chief Heitman. One of the most important qualities in a manager is the ability to be positive in challenging circumstances, and Barton has certainly exemplified that these last few years. After his promotion to Manager, Barton was assigned to our Juvenile Facilities Division, and almost right away he found himself doing double duty as the Manager over both our camp and the Juvenile Justice Center.

During the waves of change for our juvenile facilities, there were many demands on Barton's time and attention. And in addition, there were many challenges in maintaining pandemic restrictions and guidelines specific to our juvenile facilities. Throughout this period, Barton brought his positive and calm presence to work. He has dedicated many hours managing each unique situation.

Barton is also appreciated for serving many years on the department's peer support team, where he would offer a shoulder for others to lean on during difficult times. He has been known for his ability to see the positive amidst the challenges and the humor that can lift people's spirits. He was uniquely gifted at encouraging others and brought a sense of happiness and appreciation to each assignment that will be missed. On behalf of the chief and the exec team, many congratulations on your retirement!

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:04:38 · ≈ 10:04 AM

Thank you, Miss Benton to Chief Heitman and the executive team. Thank you to the board for their resolution. This means a lot to me because of who is presenting it. I appreciate each of you and the dedication that you give to the communities of our county. The time, the energy, the effort that you put in so I do truly appreciate that. I want to thank the men and women of the probation department. It's an amazing team, both sworn and non-sworn.

It's been my honor to serve with so many of you that I'm looking around today. To those that I grew up with in the department going back to DPO Corps, to those I've met along the way, to the incredible staff at the facilities and the supervisors My parents are here. I want to thank them for their continued support in my career and endeavors. My daughter asked me a couple of years ago, she said, Dad you could have chosen any number of jobs and listed the number of things and made a lot more money.

And I said yeah, I could have but I didn't choose a career of profit. I chose a career of service and I've never regretted that. Most importantly, I want to thank my wife Julie Her support through this career made this possible. From nights of being out on the road doing out-of-home placement visits around the state to crazy different schedules with fieldwork, to shift work at Juvenile Hall, to phone calls at all hours of the night and the weekend.

She never complained. She was truly supportive. Two weeks ago, we celebrated our 34th wedding anniversary and just as I chose a career of service, I am now choosing to spend more time with her. So I look forward to the next 34 years. Thank you to everyone in the department for your help, your support and your friendship. Thank you.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.771:06:49 · ≈ 10:06 AM

Supervisor Nelson.

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction1:06:50 · ≈ 10:06 AM

Yes, thank you Chair Williams it's not often that I mean we all get to uh we often get to do these resolutions for retirees it's not often it's something that um I know pretty well or I'm close to not only Bart and I both graduates of Vanguard University Bart and I go to the same church and I got a chance to know his son Luke on a mission trip and he's also the son of Carol Greger if anybody knows Carol Greger she's a force of nature And will be the driving force of eventually a future home for the Orchard Library, permanent home for the Orchid Library. So it's not just a life of service for Barton. It's his entire family and it's a tradition that continues with his son and his daughters.

I just want to thank you Barton for that. Anytime your name is mentioned, it's with a smile that this man has big heart and lives with integrity. You are a faithful servant and thank you for serving our county in our community.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.771:07:52 · ≈ 10:07 AM

A34.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:07:57 · ≈ 10:07 AM

Supervisor Williams and members of the board, Administrative Item 34 sponsored by Supervisor Williams is to adopt a resolution proclaiming the month of January 2023 as Human Trafficking Awareness Month in Santa Barbara County. Joining us here in person we have Kayla Peterson and Jeff Schaefer. If you will now join us at the podium I will read the resolution into the record Whereas human trafficking is a form of modern slavery that occurs in every state, including California wherein victims are forced to work in various forms of labor exploitation including but not limited to commercial sex acts and other services that are induced through force fraud or coercion.

And whereas due to its isolated and discreet nature many individuals across the globe are unaware that trafficking exists in their communities And whereas it is estimated that more than 28 million people around the world are victims of human trafficking. And whereas human trafficking victims face a cruelty that has no place in the civilized world, it is a crime that can take many forms.

And one that tears at our social fabric, debases our common humanity and violates what we stand for as a country. And whereas increased education about how to identify human trafficking along with increased knowledge of in-state resources and services for those affected by criminal exploitation can help decrease the number of future victims. And whereas, the Santa Barbara County Human Trafficking Task Force is committed to using all applicable laws and resources for investigating human trafficking and prosecuting those engaged in it.

And whereas the Santa Barbara County Human Trafficking Task Force has worked diligently to bring awareness to the fact that human trafficking occurs closer to home than one might think, and that California ranks number one in the country for reported human trafficking cases. And that Santa Barbara County is home to hundreds of survivors of trafficking and exploitation.

And whereas Human Trafficking Awareness Month is an opportunity to recognize the critical role that Santa Barbara County residents play in preventing, reporting and adjudicating those heinous crimes. Now therefore be it hereby ordered to resolve that this Board of Supervisors declares January 2023 as Human Trafficking Awareness Month in Santa Barbara County passed and adopted today.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.771:10:35 · ≈ 10:10 AM

Before you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:10:36 · ≈ 10:10 AM

go on, I just wanted to make sure that the board and the public knew that obviously one of the reasons why we do this is that we don't That we know that this very affront to our humanity is unfortunately prevalent in this county. But in preparation for this and for our candlelight vigil that we did last week, I got to review some of the incredible work of the task force and our various county departments and partners And it's really incredible to see you fighting back.

So I wanna thank you.

GuestMegan RheinschildDistrict AttorneyProposedself-stated1:11:22 · ≈ 10:11 AM

Thank you, good morning Chair Williams, members of the board. My name is Megan Rheinschild, I'm with the District Attorney's Office and I head up our Victim Witness Assistance Program and helped form the Human Trafficking Task Force back in 2013. It's hard to believe it's been 10 years But as has really been demonstrated today, this spirit of collaboration and county partnerships is very alive in this room.

And it's not just the county partnerships we first embarked on writing a grant together Craig Bonner and I in 2015 and then were awarded in 2016 A joint grant between the Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's Office to combat human trafficking. And I'm happy to say that really those efforts, I'm proud to say were prompted in large part by some of our faith community members who asked us as county departments what are you doing about this?

And so really it was an inspiration that came, that grew out of the community. And our non-profit partners North County Rape Crisis and Child Protection Services who's here today, Ann McCarty at the helm, and other nonprofit partners like CALM really have been the backbone of these efforts Although we're a smaller county, I'm proud to say that we have been somewhat of a go-to in terms of best practices and collaboration not only with our local county partners, our regional partners, Ventura County, San Luis Obispo but also our federal partners. Also the Department of Labor, HSI, Homeland Security and the FBI.

It's really become a collective effort. There's members of the Probation Department here, I can't thank probation enough for helping us make inroads into the juvenile justice system where some youth are showing up having been exploited and working together with behavioral wellness and intersecting those survivors We recognize and Jeff will talk about this in a minute that we have a lot to learn still from survivors of trafficking. It is truly a crime of vulnerability, and we're learning about those vulnerabilities every day and how it is that individuals get caught up in this cycle.

While the DA's office does not solely define itself by the cases that we prosecute, but by those individuals that were able to assist in their path and their journey forward. And while we don't necessarily rescue everyone, we do provide some off-ramp for the system in which they find themselves. So I want to thank each and every one of you, and our county partners as well as our nonprofit partners in the faith community for supporting these efforts. I'm truly appreciative of the work. Thank you.

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PresenterJeff Schaffercounty's humProposedself-stated1:14:54 · ≈ 10:14 AM

Chair Williams, members of the Board of Supervisors, County staff, members of the public. I just want to thank you, Supervisor Williams for recognizing Human Trafficking Awareness Month and all of you as well. My name is Jeff Schaffer. I'm currently the Santa Barbara Catalyst for Kingdom Causes. That means I get to cause good trouble on a catalyst working in partnership with the county's human trafficking task force to create a strategic plan to tackle sex and labor trafficking in the county As you know, human trafficking is among the world's fastest growing criminal enterprises and it's estimated to be $150 billion a year industry. It is a form of modern day slavery that profits from the exploitation of our most vulnerable populations.

We cannot knowingly allow this to continue to take root in our county. Many of you know, I can remember being here running the C3H kind of policy councils stuff and how important it is to tackle homelessness with a strategic plan countywide but also neighborhood by neighborhood. And that's similarly to what we want to do all of our partners to support the good work of the Human Trafficking Task Force for the efforts in prevention of human trafficking protection and provision for survivors and the prosecution of traffickers We have to match the greed that traffickers have with resources to reduce human trafficking, which means we have to build capacity and we have to bring forward the wider community in all of our efforts.

So we have recently started a new leadership team so this leadership team is made up of 24 countywide partners it'll meet every other month It's there to support the task force and create a strategic plan, and also that strategic plan to be carried out through action groups which cable speak about in a minute. I'm really also, um, I'm very excited to say one of the things I learned at homelessness is you really can't do it without bringing in the voices of those people that have experienced homelessness families and individuals. So one of the things we did right away was raise some funding to bring on board a survivor to our leadership team so we really want to create a survivor informed system And that's going to be really important for us long term.

So we have somebody who's been through our county wide kind of partnerships and is able to give us feedback, but we need everyone on board and this is a countywide collaboration. We need funders to make this a funding priority and join our funders collaborative. We need business partners to join a business coalition for survivors. We continue to need faith communities to join our interfaith collaborative And find ways to support survivors and passionately educate neighborhoods about the issue. We've even started these human trafficking action groups on college campuses. We have one on UCSB in Westmont, and we're hoping to get on all college campuses to kind of bring forward young people that know about the issue and want to work to change this as well.

And we need political champions, so that's why I look to you for your connections in your regions and in your neighborhoods. And for you two to continue to be a voice to support survivors. Anyone can contact me at jeff.shaper at kingandcauses.org if you want to get involved. Again, I want to thank you for recognizing this for our at-risk populations and our young men and women that are being trafficked. Thank you very much.

PresenterKayla PetersonDA's office and Jeff Schaefer as the Catalytic Program Coordinator for Kingdom CProposedself-stated1:18:31 · ≈ 10:18 AM

Chair Williams and members of the Board of Supervisors, I'll be brief. I don't want to reiterate too much of what they shared but my name is Kayla Peterson and I have the joy of working with the DA's office and Jeff Schaefer as the Catalytic Program Coordinator for Kingdom Causes in Santa Barbara County to assist in the coordination of the Human Trafficking Task Force.

Thank you for your recognition of the issue of human trafficking that impacts our county. As you know, the agencies at work preventing this issue providing much needed services to survivors and moving the needle on policy change and prosecution efforts could not do this work without the support of elected officials like yourselves in partnership with the agencies that have been engaged in this work in our county since 2013 I say thank you My role with the task force will be to support the development of the leadership team's three-year strategic plan to tackle sex and labor trafficking countywide. I'll be working with members of this leadership team to support the existing action groups and launch new action groups that address specific aspects of trafficking locally.

The existing action groups include data and evaluation, education, and the interfaith collaborative in each of these works In these specific pockets with subject matter experts to move the needle forward. These groups will carry out other groups that will convene or the housing and shelter action group, labor action group and medical action group. And these groups will carry out the concrete priorities identified by the leadership team.

The leadership team began meeting this month and the energy around these efforts has been inspiring and meaningful. We are excited to continue this momentum in the action groups beginning in February and March. We know that there are numerous challenges to this work. Limited staff capacity for frontline service providers, consistent and diverse funding sources and more.

We invite your continued support for and advocacy on behalf of the survivors already being served in our county and the survivors yet to be identified. This is how we will move toward countywide awareness and action. Thank you again for your support of the anti-trafficking efforts taking place in our county.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.771:20:34 · ≈ 10:20 AM

Supervisor Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.811:20:36 · ≈ 10:20 AM

Thank you so much for all the work that you do, bringing something that many of us don't think about day in and day out. One of the purposes of resolutions like this is to educate all of us and I was surprised to learn in a recent discussion with Jeff and Kayla how significant labor trafficking is and I wonder if you would Elaborate a little bit about that and two other questions. The other is, is there a nationality or an ethnic group that seems most prominent in Santa Barbara County? And what should ordinary people be on the lookout for if something is off maybe this person doesn't have full free will?

Could you comment about those things?

PresenterJeff Schaffercounty's humProposedself-stated1:21:31 · ≈ 10:21 AM

Yeah, we know statistically that labor trafficking across the nation's 80% of trafficking is related to labor traffic in about 20%. It's related to sex trafficking. I think as far as labor trafficking, I don't know if Eliana wants to, I don't know if she's still here. Ileana may be able to come up and speak specifically to some of the work she's already been doing, but that's one of the reasons we've created a new labor trafficking action group is to kind of delve more into what's happening in our county and bring more people together to figure out what we can do about it.

GuestEliana AndaDistrict AttorneyProposedself-stated1:22:08 · ≈ 10:22 AM

Thank you. So my name is Eliana Anda, I'm with the District Attorney's Victim Assistance Program. I am a manager and also help manage some of the grants administratively but also support with first response. And so since we've began this work labor trafficking our numbers aren't highlighting what's actually out there because it's so difficult to identify these individuals aren't necessarily coming forward and saying I'm being labor trafficked. It's more Masking as a wage and our issue, which is why we work so closely with their Department of Labor partners and our homeland security. Um, partners because it's really being masked us something else maybe they're thinking that's an immigration issue or like I said, they're not being paid enough.

But really what we're seeing now, because we have so many visa workers coming in with H-2A migrant labor and we're kind of a corridor as well here on the Santa Maria area, Santa Barbara County with workers traveling up and down the coast through seasons. You know it might not be here that they're being trafficked but maybe in Kern County, Fresno County, Sacramento County and then they're you know coming here for a season So really as a county and as an action group, what we're trying to do is just educate because that's really where we're going to be able to identify individuals. As if we educate not only ourselves as a community of what labor trafficking is but the individuals that possibly are in those situations.

And it could be that, it could be a historical situation. It could have happened 10-5 years ago and they don't realize that that's the situation that they were in. And now they're in a good working relationship and safe but you know when they got here to whatever California or whatever working situation that's what they experienced. So just even educating the community on what that is I'm trying to differentiate the difference between Smuggling and trafficking, that's a big one. Smuggling is a crime against the border when you cross the border illegally and you're brought here. And trafficking is against the person. It's against the individual. You don't have to cross a border. You don't have to cross state lines. It just the crime is committed against the person.

So that's really going to be going forward part of our strategic plan with the task force is really educating the communities so we are able to identify better. In terms of your second question about demographics for our county, it does not discriminate. And so we've seen minors, we've seen children, we've seen adults 18, 20, 21, 34, 45 years old involved in this life. Predominantly women but it does not mean that it's not happening to males. It's just they're a little harder to identify or come forward and say that they're part of this life.

And in terms of ethnicity, no. Primarily Caucasian, primarily Hispanic just because of the community that we're in. We do see a lot of the individuals that we're working with because we're a corridor. They're from the Fresno Valley or San Diego, Los Angeles and they're traveling through to get to the bigger cities. But we do also have a lot of, they don't have the exact numbers but we can get those to your office, resident counties that are in the juvenile justice system and that are involved in then becoming adults and continuing in this lifestyle. And so that's where the work with probation and behavioral wellness intercept these minors before they become adults and continue is really important.

Yeah, thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:25:49 · ≈ 10:25 AM

And we do have one public comment on this item.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:25:53 · ≈ 10:25 AM

We'll move to Santa Barbara with ePlanet Thunderstriker.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:25:59 · ≈ 10:25 AM

Thank you. I'm very fortunate because I was going to gloss over this during my general public comments. Yes, so now sex trafficking is like more than drugs. I also have a concern that the governor reduced the incarceration rates for violent crimes and one thing I was going to talk about in my general public comment is that I heard about Reconquista From Mexicans in Tucson, Arizona. I don't think that it's discussed on the conservative Republican talk shows. Those people are just chasing a dollar bill around on a string.

Mexico has the world's 10th largest pollution rate so they have infrastructure. Their peso value has gone up ten, 100, I think maybe it's actually like a few hundred times since the 70s or 80s and I don' think that it's just a coincidence California is a sanctuary state and we also have the highest sex trafficking rate. I also want to point out that the baby boomers' parents will tell you how their generations didn't even lock their doors.

The baby boomers are all 17 year olds, if it feels good do it and that has what has brought our country from people who didn't lock their doors To complete barbarism. I mean, we're a leading superpower and we're dealing with sex trafficking, criminal sex and violence where we're not letting them go. And I'm asking myself when the governor makes this proclamation to reduce the incarceration rates for violence how does that benefit our UCSB students when they graduate?

Well it doesn't. And i'm going to have a lot of other things on my general public comments that clearly there's a lot of you know what

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:27:44 · ≈ 10:27 AM

Thank you. We will move on to administer item 35. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:27:52 · ≈ 10:27 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, Administrative Item 35 is sponsored by Supervisor Hartman and Supervisor Capps. It is to adopt a resolution proclaiming January 27th, 2023 as International Holocaust Remembrance Day in Santa Barbara County. Joining us in person we have Jill Goldwarn and Jana Zimmern. Joining us via Zoom we have Dan Meisel. I will now turn this item over to Supervisor Hartman and Supervisor Capps.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.811:28:19 · ≈ 10:28 AM

Supervisor Capp

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:28:21 · ≈ 10:28 AM

Thank you. It's my honor to read this with Supervisor Hartman. Whereas the Holocaust was state-sponsored, systematic persecution and annihilation of European Jewry by Nazi Germany and its collaborators between 1933 and 1945 in which six million Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews were murdered among which were one and a half million children. And Roma gypsies people with disabilities and Poles were targeted for destruction or decimation for racial ethnic for national reasons.

And millions more, including LGBTQ plus individuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, Soviet prisoners of war, political dissidents, journalists and judges also suffered grievous oppression and death under Nazi tyranny

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.811:29:14 · ≈ 10:29 AM

Whereas the United States Congress has long honored the fact that the armies of the United States were the primary discoverers of the locations used for extermination, the records of the systematic genocide and the few survivors of the Holocaust. And

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:29:33 · ≈ 10:29 AM

Whereas the historic perspective of the nation has been clearly affected by this event in such a way that historians, the United States Congress and the courts generally recognize the Holocaust as an occurrence not only of European history but also of the history of the United States.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.811:29:50 · ≈ 10:29 AM

Whereas of those few survivors of the Holocaust, many subsequently immigrated to the United States and they and their descendants now form an integral valued part of our society.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:30:04 · ≈ 10:30 AM

Whereas notwithstanding these well-recognized historical truths, there are those in contemporary society in the United States and the world who for purposes of sowing hatred disruption and division and to justify continuing discrimination not only against Jews but against other minority populations and peoples persist in denying them. And

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.811:30:27 · ≈ 10:30 AM

whereas those who do not remember history are condemned to repeat it.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:30:33 · ≈ 10:30 AM

Whereas the history of the Holocaust offers an opportunity to reflect on the moral responsibilities of individuals, societies and governments.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.811:30:43 · ≈ 10:30 AM

Whereas it is the moral responsibility of every American government agency and every citizen to not only remember history, but to stand together with vulnerable populations and against distortion and denial. To model not only tolerance but also acceptance and to educate future generations

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:31:06 · ≈ 10:31 AM

Whereas we the people of the County of Santa Barbara should actively rededicate ourselves to the principles of individual freedom in a just society.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.811:31:16 · ≈ 10:31 AM

Whereas pursuant to the United Nations General Assembly's unanimously adopted resolution designating January 27th as Holocaust Remembrance Day,

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:31:27 · ≈ 10:31 AM

Now, therefore be it ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors declares January 27th as International Holocaust Remembrance Day in Santa Barbara County.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.811:31:37 · ≈ 10:31 AM

Passed on adopted by the Board of Supervisors of Santa Barbara County State of California this 24th day of January 2023.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed1:32:32 · ≈ 10:32 AM

Thank you so much. I believe we have on the telephone Dan Meisel, who's the Regional Director of the ADL. I am on the board of ADL and I just wanted to say a couple things about how important recognizing this day is I'm sure everyone here is aware of the amount of Holocaust denial going on in our government, in our communities. Also aware of some anti-Semitic incidents that occurred in the San Ynez Valley and most recently in Santa Barbara with the flyers and that is how I came to the ADL because my son was at the high school San Ynez since graduated and in college and he was the only Jewish kid at the high school and suffered anti-Semitic experiences, and Dan and the ADL came to join the community. And that's how I got introduced and then invited to be on the board not just about anti-Semitism but about hatred for all marginalized communities.

And we've experienced that as well. in Santa Ynez and in Santa Barbara County with the burning of the gay pride flag, and some other things like that. So I just felt it important to read Elie Wiesel. If you don't know who he was, he was a Nobel Prize winner, and he wrote over 50 books including Night which was his experience of being in Auschwitz as a teenager. And when he accepted the Nobel Prize in the late 80's he said We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere. When human lives are endangered, when human dignity is in jeopardy, national borders and sensitivities become irrelevant. Wherever men or women are persecuted because of their race, religion or political views that place must at that moment become the center of the universe.

So thank you for helping Santa Barbara be a part of that and now I'll turn it over to Dan who has some comments as well.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.771:34:59 · ≈ 10:34 AM

Mr. Mizell?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed1:35:01 · ≈ 10:35 AM

Good morning, Chair Williams and supervisors. Thank you Supervisors Hartman and Capps for sponsoring this resolution, for all of your collective support of it, and for this opportunity to address you. Thank you as well to Jana Zimmer, Mary O'Gorman, and our board member Joe Goldwarn for their advocacy on this issue. I serve as regional director of the Santa Barbara Tri-Counties Office of the Anti-Defamation League A leading anti-hate organization with a 110 year mission to stop the defamation of the Jewish people and to secure justice and fair treatment for all.

Recognizing International Holocaust Remembrance Day is important to honor the memory and tragedy of those who experienced genocide, extreme antisemitism and other forms of bigotry It's also important to reinforce the lessons we learned from that era to address and prevent identity-based hate. The number of living survivors from whom we can hear of those events firsthand is sadly dwindling, so we must commit ourselves to preserving and continuing to explore and tell these truths.

When addressing this board last January in support of its passage of a similar resolution, I noted that antisemitism historically increases in times of political polarization and distrust in government institutions. The news since then is therefore not surprising, but still sad and very troubling. Last May ADL's annual audit of anti-Semitic incidents reported over 2700 credible anti-Semitic incidents in 2021, a 34% increase over 2020 and the highest on record since ADL began its annual reporting in 1979.

Our regional office also experienced a 34 percent increase in anti-semitic incidents reported in the tri counties Incidents in Santa Barbara County included hateful slurs and assaults targeting Jewish individuals, anti-Semitic vandalism and graffiti in public parks, bus stops, and a popular bike path. And virulently anti-Semitic flyers distributed multiple Santa Barbara neighborhoods only a month ago.

ADL also just released a survey of anti-Semitic attitudes in the United States, which found that 20% of the diverse pools surveyed believed in six or more anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. That's double the number of respondents only a few years earlier and the highest number in three decades. These survey responses occurred before one of America's most followed influencers tweeted tropes about Jewish control of industries and another minority's voice, and then dined with former President Trump along with a lesser-known white supremacist.

That is the opposite of condemnation, and we've seen how dangerous some of these tropes can be. The false notion of Jewish control fueled the deadly anti-Semitic attacks in Pittsburgh and Poway and the hostage crisis in Colleyville. Effective response starts with words. Clear support for the Jewish community and condemnation of antisemitism are important, particularly from our public officials.

And this resolution is important for the absence of words leaves antisemitism unchecked and allows our memory and understanding of the most extreme examples of it to fade. Words alone, however cannot stem the rise of antisemitism. Many of the factors that contribute to rising antisemitism also negatively impact other minority or marginalized communities and we've seen a rise in hate crimes and incidents against those groups as well.

We therefore urge the following actions by the board to help address and prevent bigoted attitudes in the county. First, to join future resolutions in honor of this day with proposed action items designed to address or prevent hate and bigotry in the county Second, to direct the county administrator to survey county staff each year if the county does not already on whether the county's own practices and policies are respectful of minority and marginalized populations and cultures.

And report results of these surveys to the board. Third, to direct the county administrator to provide proposals for education of current county staff about anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry. And to do so as part of orientation for new staff going forward In this way, the county can model preventative measures for its constituent employers. And fourth to direct the county administrator to explore the reestablishment of the Human Relations Commission which existed from 1991 to 2008 to focus on addressing and preventing hate crimes and incidents in the county.

Los Angeles County's LA vs. Hate initiative, a product of its Human Relations Commission could serve as a guiding example of an effective structure for enabling reporting of incidents and organized access to a network of community resources in response. Thank you all again for your support of the proposed resolution, your commitment to addressing and preventing anti-Semitism, and your support from minority and marginalized groups in Santa Barbara County.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.771:39:45 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Thank you, Mr. Meisel. Ms. Zimmer?

CommentJana ZimmerProposedself-stated1:39:52 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Good morning, Supervisors. My name is Jana Zimmer. First I want to thank Supervisor Hartman and Supervisor Capps for sponsoring this resolution this year commemorating International Holocaust Remembrance Day. For me it's not just symbolic it represents an incredibly important and much-needed statement of solidarity not only with Jews but with other marginalized communities I would like to note that I was able to buy my home here in Santa Barbara, my first and only home because my mother as a survivor of Terezin, Auschwitz and Mauthausen contributed her first reparations payment from Germany to the down payment.

My father, also a survivor of Terezin and Auschwitz and the Gleiwitz death march told me at the time that whatever I do I must hold on to this house so I have. At the end of her life my mother lived with us and died peacefully in her own bed in the house she helped buy Hardly anybody remembers, but I do. The county first acknowledged the need to remember the Holocaust in 1990.

I know because I worked with the Jewish Federation, community leaders and then Supervisors Miyoshi, Ochoa, Owens, Wallace and Rogers to make that happen. Supervisor Miyoshi's immediate support for the idea was especially poignant because he had been imprisoned as a child at the Gila Bend internment camp. At that time, I felt relatively safe in this country as a Jew. Holocaust denial existed but had seemed on the wane. In 1981 early in my career, I had participated pro bono on a case called Mermelstein versus the Institute for Historical Review in which the court granted our request for judicial notice that the Holocaust was a fact much like the fact that the sun rises in the east I never imagined that now, entering my own old age, I would be fearful of the future.

Fearful that my own grandchildren, the fourth generation after Auschwitz could be marginalized and threatened in California in the 21st century. I feel very strongly that not only Jews, but their or our allies in the non-Jewish community need to step up our game if we're to avoid future calamities. It is so important that the majority white Christian community step up to be both visible and vocal allies.

So I'm doubly grateful that your board is setting an example by articulating specifically in your resolution, that the Holocaust has been recognized as an event not only of European history but of American history. Because American troops liberated the camps because American jurists participated in the Nuremberg trials because concentration camp survivors came here and built new lives and they and their offspring carry the trauma in their genes And because we are under threat, it is not enough anymore to take a moment to acknowledge history. So in addition to adopting this resolution for which I'm very grateful, we are requesting that you investigate and consider affirmative steps to go beyond remembrance to meaningful action, to make sure the county government is respectful to the maximum degree possible, not only of the Jewish community but other communities who have been marginalized For these reasons, I strongly support the action steps that ADL has recommended.

Thank you very much, especially to Supervisor Hartman and Katz. Oh, and I meant to say at the beginning, I reviewed the resolution that was adopted last year, and I especially appreciated Super Lovanino's comments about his visit to the museum. Thank you.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.811:43:45 · ≈ 10:43 AM

And before you leave, Yana, If I may, Chair Williams.

PresenterKerry KelloggSanta Barbara Trails Council as well as a member of thProposedself-stated1:43:51 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Absolutely.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.811:43:53 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Knowing about this understanding about this you have a new book that talks about your history and I'd like you to just spend a minute telling us what's in that book because it's been really well reviewed and i think it grounds us

CommentJana ZimmerProposedself-stated1:44:05 · ≈ 10:44 AM

Thank you. I wasn't going to bring that up, but it's called Chocolates from Tangier. It's a memoir, but it incorporates a multi-genre piece because it incorporates excerpts from both my parents' life stories. I had the foresight thankfully to ask each of them way back in 1981 to write out their own life stories. It was a time when nobody was really talking about the Holocaust and I was afraid to talk about it myself So it includes excerpts from their life stories, my own artwork, my own reminiscences, memories of childhood and so forth. And it really was an exercise in finding my voice finally after all these years to speak about this. It's been very difficult. It still difficult to speak about it.

But that's what that's what's out

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.811:45:00 · ≈ 10:45 AM

there. Thank you for

CommentJana ZimmerProposedself-stated1:45:00 · ≈ 10:45 AM

speaking about it.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.771:45:04 · ≈ 10:45 AM

Thank you so much, Ms. Zimmer. Supervisor

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.841:45:14 · ≈ 10:45 AM

Lavagnino. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Normally when a resolution like this is presented I don't have a lot to say because we do have a lot of work to do and our agendas are impacted and so I'm normally silent letting my colleagues carry the water a little bit but as we've seen such an incredible rise in anti-semitic rhetoric and behavior in this country and around the globe I feel compelled to raise my voice as another person who rises to condemn it As many of you know, some of you might know I unfortunately had to attend a very strict cultish school as a child and can remember the anti-Semitic propaganda that we were forced to read.

The Holocaust Domain book, The Myth of the Six Million was required reading. This school like many other anti-Semitic organizations attempted to poison the young minds and trust them Young people are not naturally racist or bigoted. They have to be taught to hate. It's interesting when I was reading about this resolution, I went back and I looked at the poverty The Southern Poverty Law Center and this school is ranked in their top 12 of anti-Semitic organizations.

Thank God I was an independent free thinker, and I have spent my entire adult life educating myself about the Holocaust reading numerous survivors biographies and trying to understand more about what drove human beings to carry out such atrocities. I've had the good fortune to visit the Museums of Tolerance both in L.A and Washington, D.C., and I encourage everyone to try to get to one if you can. It's time for all of us to stand up against the vocal minority in this country. We have to answer their message of bigotry with a message of acceptance. And I'm very proud to have my name at the bottom of this resolution. Thank you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.771:47:04 · ≈ 10:47 AM

Supervisor Katz?

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:47:07 · ≈ 10:47 AM

Thank you, Supervisor Lavagnino for sharing that. I'm touched that this is my first resolution as a County Board of Supervisors member. It means a lot to me. I had a different childhood upbringing where I was blessed to learn about all religions and Elie Wiesel was quoted at the dinner table And I was taught to believe that one's own faith is only strengthened by tolerance, by humanity, by service.

And so and I now see that in my own child that you're exactly right. Children are not born with hate and with racism, with anti-Semitism. It's particularly fitting that we're doing this now. And I want to thank Anne Mizell and Jana Zimmer and yourself for being here. Not just when polarization is High and anti-Semitism is on the rise, but every day all the ins and outs. And I know we're all so disheartened and disgusted and disbelief that it's happening here in Santa Barbara County. But that's why we need to talk about the Holocaust. We need to keep this front and center.

Ms. Zimmer for her advocacy to make sure that it's taught well in our schools, because that's where it begins. So I hear the words of this resolution is important for the words because words matter but the action steps is what we need to do next and I am committed to helping however I can. Thank you Chair Williams.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.771:48:42 · ≈ 10:48 AM

Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.811:48:44 · ≈ 10:48 AM

I first would like to ask our CEO, Mia Sato if she would comment about what we now do in terms of serving staff about our practices and education for staff particularly new staff.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:48:59 · ≈ 10:48 AM

Thank you Supervisor Hartman through the chair. So we have a couple of things that we do, we survey our departments all staff with an employee engagement survey and we ask questions about how they're treated and whether the respectful behavior is practiced in their work teams at their department And this year we introduced doing an equity and inclusion survey. So we are looking specifically at the issues brought up about is there, are they experiencing any type of bias, any type of feelings of discrimination of marginalized groups their own attitudes and so we just started that and we're still waiting for the results. And we hope to continue to do that at least once or twice. Once every other year and we have training, as you know, money landed in Nevada.

Our HR director had brought forward the joint proposal that we did. We started which is training specifically on these issues about bias. And I will after this meeting, I'll talk to her and see how much anti-Semitism is included as part of that training. So thank you for bringing that to our attention.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.811:50:01 · ≈ 10:50 AM

And Chair Williams, if I might just follow quickly. I live in the San Ynez Valley and we have had several incidents and we were so grateful to have ADL, the Anti-Defamation League, to consult with because they come in and do an assessment How serious is this issue and what is the best way? Do you confront it directly or are there indirect ways that deal with it better?

Anyway, it's one of the most professional helpful organizations. And if anybody else is experiencing this in organizations that you're a part of reach out to ADL contribute to ADL be an ally of ADL

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.771:50:53 · ≈ 10:50 AM

Supervisor Nelson?

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction1:50:54 · ≈ 10:50 AM

Yes, thank you Chair Williams. I'm blessed to have one of my best friends be a Jewish heritage as well as my brother-in-law whose grandfather was a survivor of the Holocaust and brought his family eventually to the Central Coast and has been serving our community in public service as well so it's been great to get to hear those stories firsthand and get to honor I want to add my voice as an elected official to condemn anti-Semitic behavior and words.

You know, and to against all behavior of hatred of all peoples. I think it's important that all of us make that declaration and I proudly do that here today. And as the resolution says, I renew my commitment to the principles of individual freedom in a just society. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:51:57 · ≈ 10:51 AM

Thank you. And we will go to public comment here in a moment, I also wanted to speak the one of the most moving experiences I've ever had as an elected official was being asked to go to Israel and during that time going to The Holocaust Memorial Museum in Jerusalem, which is one of the most moving experiences that I could advise people to take on. I believe Holocaust scholarship is enormously important, and I appreciate Ms. Zimmer for adding her voice on that body of knowledge because really the lesson of history is that these things are not in the past.

That the level of scale and savagery of the Holocaust is unique, but not the fundamental unfathomable darkness that led to it. Nor nor the savagery that will repeat so that it is really not our past, but it is our future unless we stand against it. And so I think it is incumbent upon us as a people to take that stand and renew that stand constantly. We'll go to public comment.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:53:47 · ≈ 10:53 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, we have Suzanne Levy.

CommentSuzanne LevyProposedself-stated1:53:53 · ≈ 10:53 AM

Hello Chair Williams and members of the board and county staff. I'm Suzanne Levy, a newly appointed member of the Women's Commission, a member of the Board of Trustees at Hancock College but speaking to you as the immediate past president of Temple Beth-El in Santa Maria. Temple Beth El has been an active part of the Jewish community of Santa Maria for almost 70 years We have many, have had many Holocaust survivors and children and grandchildren of survivors as members of our congregation. We're honored to be the guardian of the Holoslav Czech Republic Torah one of the 3 000 Torahs confiscated by the Nazis from a Jewish community that no longer exists We are proud of our facility which has been the host of many community events over 60 years.

Keeping the memory of the Holocaust alive is important not only for the Jewish people but for all those still suffering persecutions in many part of the world. Passing this resolution not only honors the victims of the Holocaust but those of us striving to never forget so we don't repeat the mistakes of the past. Thank you Supervisors Hartman and Kapsch for sponsoring the resolution.

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction1:55:00 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:55:06 · ≈ 10:55 AM

And for our final speaker, George Alvarez.

CommentGeorge AlvarezProposed1:55:18 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Good afternoon Supervisors, Union Public and people here. I'm 73 years of age and have seen a lot of horrific things especially in politics No one has learned that things come back again. It's a full circle effect. If you stick your head in the sand like an ostrich, shit happens. This is horrible that this one group of people in the history of the world had to suffer this hideous consequence of genocide.

For a lot of people don't realize it during World War II Germany was 50% Catholic I'm a Catholic and it bothers me that the Vatican didn't take a stand against Hitler. But then again, Hitler and Mussolini worked their deal with the Vatican and they were neutral ground. It took decades before the Catholic Church apologized to the Jewish people. Me as a Catholic, I apologize as an Indian Catholic.

I would not want To live in a country that people have suffered and are still suffering because of the hands of idiots that want to conquer the world. We have suffered enough as Americans. Look what's going on in Washington, D.C. There should be laws Strict and strong laws that are going to take effect on those who draw swastikas. I take it to the County of Santa Barbara D.A. to set up laws that are gonna be really strong in heart on these people that do these city sacks. I call upon this educational system, they get a little bit educated themselves and teach our children about the Holocaust as a requirement so these kids know the true fact what happened in the 1940s There is no person, a life or child that should suffer the hideousness of hate in this country because we pride ourselves as being independent.

We pride ourselves in making decisions that we want. I'm as proud as hell has been America. I will defend the right of anyone. I'll put my life on the line because that's how we are. So again to the public And to myself and the Jewish community, I apologize for what occurred during the time. It should not happen again.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.771:58:01 · ≈ 10:58 AM

Thank you. Now is

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:58:10 · ≈ 10:58 AM

the time reserved for general public comment, and I just want to reiterate our standard rules are not to have clapping with public comments. Again if people want to express support for any public comment they just do maybe one of these and we'll get the idea. We have 16 folks for public comment. So that by our rules, that means we'll do two minutes each. I suppose normally our rules actually that would be one minute each but we will try to just if you can keep it to one and a half but we'll cut you off at two.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:58:59 · ≈ 10:58 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, we will begin with Tim Mahoney via Zoom to be followed by Renee O'Neill.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.771:59:14 · ≈ 10:59 AM

Good morning

CommentTim MahoneyProposed1:59:15 · ≈ 10:59 AM

I hope you can hear me.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:59:17 · ≈ 10:59 AM

We can Tim.

CommentTim MahoneyProposed1:59:18 · ≈ 10:59 AM

Thank you Mr. Chairman, members of the board, Tim Mahoney here SoCal Gas Company And all of our customers, and unfortunately natural gas prices are going to be even higher this winter due to several unprecedented factors beyond SoCal Gas's control. And customers are gonna see winter gas bills that are double than compared to a year ago and you're probably going to get some people calling you so I wanted to give you an update.

So there's been some historically high natural gas prices in Western United Now, SoCalGas we don't set the price. We buy the price on the commodities market and national and regional markets. We buy the gas on behalf of the customers and then send that gas to our customers including the six county of Santa Barbara. Now we do not mark up the cost of the commodity so we don' make a profit off the gas molecules. If I buy a gas molecule for 50 cents, I sell it to the customer for 50 cents Now according to the United States Energy Information, widespread below normal temperatures in the West Coast California Washington Oregon these are driving up demand and the supply is staying low.

So natural gas demand for heating is going through the roof because of these below normal temperatures Unfortunately, there's been a reduced natural gas supply on the west coast as well and including the storage capacity. So you couple all that together and in West Texas there's been a few pipelines taken out for maintenance purposes Supplies are down and demand is up. So what do you do? Well, you can lower your thermostat. You can caulk and weatherstrip. Wash clothes in cold water. Dress warmer inside. Turn the water heater down. Limit the use of non-essential gas appliances. So for more information call or visit socalgas.com. Manage higher gas bills. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:01:26 · ≈ 11:01 AM

Renee O'Neill to be followed by Seth Steiner

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed2:01:38 · ≈ 11:01 AM

Good morning, supervisors. I will make this as quick as possible. I'm calling or zooming you to give my deepest appreciation and recognition to our county agency people. I am going to start with Supervisor Bob Nelson. Bob we are so delighted in the Tepeskaya community to have you as our supervisor. Thank you for your proactive participation in the storm event, coming out here three times and bringing Congressman Carbajal with you on one of those occasions to see the devastating effects of what's going on in our Thank you. Thank you so much for the opportunity to speak on behalf of the community. I really appreciate that. I also want to recognize Andy O'Brien with Public Works County Roads is out here right now as we speak, still doing their darndest to improve the conditions in Tepeski and actually have the road open again I want to thank Salud Carbajal, of course.

I wish I could have gone and seen him in person. Also a big reach out to Santa Barbara County Fire starting with Rob Hazard who put me in touch with Deputy Fire Chief of Operations Anthony Stornetta, who helped us clear some private access road which is absolutely not their responsibility. And Captain Vince La Rocco who came to the rescue of one of our residents who needed medical support during that time.

So the other two people real quickly is thank you, Bob Nelson for having Aaron Hanke as one of your I don't know his title. But he's contacted me several times and Brittany Heaton who has been instrumental in putting us in touch with the LAC programs here in our communities to get help for our residents so Thank you very much. I did send a nice letter to Bob and some of the other folks, I hope you all get a chance to read it. Thank you for your time and have a wonderful day.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:04:24 · ≈ 11:04 AM

Yes, yes. Good morning Chair and Board. Recent experiences in Los Alamos shed light on the county's planning process. Seth

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:04:37 · ≈ 11:04 AM

can you speak up just a bit?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:04:40 · ≈ 11:04 AM

Can you hear me now?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:04:42 · ≈ 11:04 AM

No you sound sort of very far away um and echoey but we'll try to wing it but it was slightly better.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed2:04:50 · ≈ 11:04 AM

I'm sorry I'll try Good morning board. Recent experiences in Los Alamos shed light on the county's planning process. First, a deeply flawed proposal that minimized safety issues due to the development's access via one lane section of Shaw Street Now, the relatively massive Village Square project that was approved in an earlier pre-drought era that could bring with potential ADUs over 100 more homes to town as much as a 15% increase from what we have now.

Notices to homeowners within a 300-foot radius informed only about a dozen of us, yet most of the town would be affected by such a consequential project. While residents may still have meaningful input I ask that supervisors inform constituents of nascent projects before decisions are made and hold town meetings to discuss them. To better ensure our safety and quality of life, let's have more democracy and transparency.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.772:06:18 · ≈ 11:06 AM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:06:23 · ≈ 11:06 AM

We will now move here to Santa Maria with Steve Jordan, to be

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:06:26 · ≈ 11:06 AM

followed by Kerry Kellogg.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:06:30 · ≈ 11:06 AM

And just the next person always can be on deck that it always saves about nine seconds each time around.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed2:06:36 · ≈ 11:06 AM

I'll try to use the nine seconds greatly. Several years ago, the Board of Supervisors met in Lompoc on my ranch in the river bottom. That was Diane Owens, Gloria Chela, I'm sorry, number five, Mike Stoker Tom Rogers declared an emergency. Tom Rogers reached into his pocket, pulled out a toothbrush and said if I have to go to jail, I will go to jail for Steve Jordan to put away.

And this county declared emergency and cleared the river bottom. That was years ago. Now our river bottom is worse than ever. It flooded with the lowest amount of water ever to cross over banks. The flooding was, I was flooded but realistically it wasn't a bad flood. But when the dam fills, the amount of water coming down on the San Israel goes up by a factor of four quadruples.

So we now have almost a full dam and it's like a loaded shotgun on our stuff. We need to work on the river. So lack of maintenance, not the act of God. I have another point. This is probably not for you guys but somebody will understand this. The dam is at 750 feet above sea level. It was built in the 50's. It's designed so if the dam is full, the watershed is full and a big storm hits, the dam will not overtop.

Overtopping means a catastrophic failure of the dam, which means the City of Long Beach will be under 20 feet of rushing water. Total double cold destruction. There are people who want to raise the level down to 753, which impacts the safety of the dam. Fortunately, the county is on our side. But there's some people in South County who want the water more than dam safety. I'm sorry for that really pissed me off.

Anyway, so I get kind of emotional about these issues. So I've been here since 74 and this dam, the river isn't as bad as it can get. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:08:50 · ≈ 11:08 AM

Harry Kellogg to be followed by Otis Kalef

PresenterKerry KelloggSanta Barbara Trails Council as well as a member of thProposedself-stated2:08:54 · ≈ 11:08 AM

Good morning, Supervisors. My name is Kerry Kellogg. I grew up in Santa Barbara and I now live in the city of Lompoc. I'm on the Board of Directors with the Santa Barbara Trails Council as well as a member of the Lompoc Trails Committee. I am now retired but I spent most of my working life involved in trail management. In 1977, I started what would be a 36-year career with Los Padres National Forest on the Santa Barbara Ranger District Where I built and designed trails and led trail crews, packed mules, recruited volunteers. And eventually became the District Wilderness and Trails Manager.

Some 15 years ago while working with the Forest Service or still working, I was tasked with working in collaboration with the City of Santa Barbara and the county, Santa Barbara County on local recreation trails. The result was the commission of the Multi-Jurisdictional Trails Task Force This year-long process came from the recognition that three agencies shared similar interests on trails as well as actually sharing a collection of right-of-ways and trail segments that made up the Santa Barbara Front Country Trail System.

One of our very first projects was to conduct a use count. Three trails were selected for a one-day weekend survey. The county selected the Tunnel Trail, the city counted at Rattlesnake and the Forest Service at the bottom of Cold Springs. The use numbers were quite surprising. The winner was the Tunnel Trail with just shy of 300 visitors, the Rattlesnake Trail with 125 and Cold Springs at 230.

This meant that on that spring weekend day 600 people were out on public trails. Keep in mind that was just three of those seven front country trails So it became apparent that on any given weekend day, there could be up to a thousand visitors using Santa Barbara trails. And that was 15 years ago and I venture to say, Oh, I'm out of time.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:11:05 · ≈ 11:11 AM

Thank you so much. And could you, could you mute the speaker on zoom? That's may not

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.772:11:11 · ≈ 11:11 AM

be aware that we're hearing them Otis

PresenterOtis CaliffSantaProposedself-stated2:11:18 · ≈ 11:11 AM

Good morning, Supervisors. My name is Otis Califf. I'm a resident of Santa Barbara Second District Chair of CRATAC, your Board's County Riding and Hiking Trails Advisory Committee. I am President of the Santa Barbara County Trails Council. I am an avid bicyclist, a hiker, and I pack mules for volunteer projects on the Los Padres. I was also a Scoutmaster for 25 years.

Thank you board for funding the recreational master plan, a once in my lifetime opportunity. And especially with the associated study of zoning code and policy changes please use this opportunity to strongly support development of new parks recreation and trails through improved policies through changes in regulations and through incentives to private property owners I've worked on the Barone Ranch Trail, Franklin and Orchid Trail projects. Major accomplishments for the county and county partners thanks to them.

I would like your board to know, however, that the county's antiquated zoning code was a major barrier to opening these trails. The master plan process is a chance to facilitate permitting for trails. I hope the county will use this opportunity to pursue new trails for the Gaviota Foothills and better coastal access to North County especially Halama and Point Sal.

I hope the county will pursue opening the California Coastal Trail from Goleta through Hollister and Dangermont Preserve to Halama. We have belatedly discovered that the county is no longer requiring the provision of new trail easements for most new development, a huge blow to the making of new trails. Please direct County Council to work with parks to find solutions to this major regressive change.

Oh, and thanks for the funding the future study of the Santa Maria levee trail. Finally I would like to publicly thank Public Works Deputy Director Chris Sneddon for his work on both the Modoc Road and Refugio Road trails. Brett Bravo! And you should have seen him riding a mule along Refugio road the other day.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.772:13:48 · ≈ 11:13 AM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:13:53 · ≈ 11:13 AM

Faith Dieter to be followed by Francis Romero.

PresenterFaith DietertrailsProposedself-stated2:13:59 · ≈ 11:13 AM

Hi, my name is Faith Dieter. I am the vice chair of CRATAC, the Santa Barbara County Riding and Hiking Trails Advisory Committee. I'm here to speak on behalf of trails. I' m also a licensed marriage and family therapist. It's very refreshing to hear how much effort is being made in the area Behavioral wellness and I want to mention, I wasn't planning on talking about this but trails and wellness are very intertwined. In fact it's one of the things that we recommend when people get stressed we say go take a walk.

I'm from San Ynez. San Ynez Valley doesn't have quite the same recreational opportunities as other places on the valley floor We have a lot of private property and the trails that we have are few and far between. We have a very small bike path, we have three trails one two between fence lines and one along the side of a road. Thank you to Joan Hartman and Chris Sneddon for championing Restoring the Refugio Trail along the road shoulder and people are walking on it every day. The community is so happy, the baby strollers are out of the vehicle lane now and everybody is using that trail dogs everyone.

So it's so important three things to please continue funding the Recreational Master Plan. It's important on so many different levels. Please continue to keep the easement requirement for new development in a place like San Yanez unless we can go between the property lines, we're going to go nowhere and please also keep funding Public Works so that they can Enforce the road shoulder requirements. There are clear zones there in the development standards, the development and design standards for 10 feet along the sides of the roadways. That's where we walk when I say to somebody hey when you're stressed out go take a walk and then when I try to do it myself. Do you guys remember the game Frogger?

Remember, you're walking along and here comes a car and here comes a bike. And then somebody's parked on the side of the road to where you have to go into the middle of the road to take the walk. And instead of stress coming down, stress is going up. Everything is connected. Thank you so much. Please keep funding trails.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.772:16:29 · ≈ 11:16 AM

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:16:33 · ≈ 11:16 AM

Francis Romero to be followed by George Alvarez.

CommentFrances RomeroProposedself-stated2:16:37 · ≈ 11:16 AM

Well, good morning. I'll be as quick as I can so this is just a bit of a history lesson for the Legacy Estates project now known as Village Square. I think most of you have experience in the community of Los Alamos and some of today's commenters are either new to Los Alamos community or they're just unaware of our projects history as well as the Los Alamos community plans I'd like to briefly outline some facts that keep getting overlooked. The town site of Los Alamos was created in a single plat that was recorded in 1879. It was a typical frontier grid pattern with 24 blocks of 24 lots each, most lots measured 50 by 200 feet. You're probably asking why does this matter? I'll get to it quickly. This map was recorded prior to the adoption of the Subdivision Map Act of 1893.

These states do matter, so for the last 144 years, the land that the Legacy Estates Project is on has been planned and envisioned for residential development. In 1984, the Board of Supervisors passed a resolution regarding antiquated lots which is what happened. That's what those 50 by 200 foot lots were called. In 1994, the first Los Alamos Community Plan was adopted and that built upon the 1980 Comprehensive Plan.

The 1994 plan included specific texts and diagrams outlining the community's wishes for the development of these last few lots that Legacy Estates is on. And these lots can be developed ministerially, that's important to remember too. In 2005, the Legacy Estates development was approved for 59 lots after seven public hearings there was a public process I remember it well it was one of the very first projects I ever worked on. The application was submitted in 2002 In 2011, the Los Alamos Community Plan adopted its environmental document. And mind you, the 2005 project also had an EIR.

That Los Alamos community plan had 30 public meetings. That document identified and referenced the approved legacy estates project in 2010, the Los Alamos community plan planned for 1321 units. The current build out of Los Alamos is 676. So I want to just say that we do have an approved project. Thank you for your time.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:19:12 · ≈ 11:19 AM

George Alvarez to be followed by Christine Adams.

CommentGeorge AlvarezProposed2:19:18 · ≈ 11:19 AM

Good afternoon again and shout out from Steve here, just to love him you know. Last Thursday I had an opportunity to talk to Steve on a issue that came out in Santa Maria Times full coverage page on the Guadalupe non-levy all right Created a problem just as bad and at that time, thank God if the farmers who had a verm out there it saved a lot of the property damage.

You would figure by now common sense would dictate if there's a problem fix it! We need a levy there we have a brand new YMCA or Boys and Girls Club out there they're got water down I'm a resident of Guadalupe all my life And it behooves me that politicians don't use common sense. Now, are we gonna go through the disaster again of waiting 10 or 15 years and go oops! We should have built a levy, we have no money?

FEMA has money. I would request and ask the board to send a letter to FEMA if they miss the probability of fixing that levy they have to fix the levy. Too much property is at stake, a lot of farmland got ruined because of lack of intellect. So as my time goes by I have a minute something, I'll leave the levy aspect. A certain thing that's really close to my heart is why isn't the county in the health department especially mental health Not doing its job in dealing with a homeless population here in town and especially in Lompoc. My God, you have these trailer units that are on the streets people outside drunk drugged out Mental issues.

I had an experience in Guadalupe, I called the police and have a guy being Bruce Lee on a postal receptacle called them up. We have to be back up. They call the metal unit and they told him through their assessment you can't do anything about it. Horse feathers. You're going to allow a person that has mental issues acting out weird in public Maybe with children passing by and they might assault them. Who's at fault then?

I would sue the hell out of the county and the mental department for not doing its job. They get money for their homeless. Make them get their job done correctly because they're being neglected as I speak, thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.842:21:59 · ≈ 11:21 AM

Mr Chair just real quick Mr. Alvarez, I did ask because I saw you in the audience. I had a feeling that Levy was going to come up if Mr. Rubicoff just offline if you guys could get together just real quick he's our flood control guy and it is being discussed so I just wanted you guys to thank you

CommentGeorge AlvarezProposed2:22:18 · ≈ 11:22 AM

Steve for

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction2:22:19 · ≈ 11:22 AM

15 years. And Chair Williams if Mr Alvarez wants stick around item D1 we're gonna be talking about what we've been doing with homelessness in the county

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:22:30 · ≈ 11:22 AM

Christine Adams to be followed by Jim

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:22:32 · ≈ 11:22 AM

Albertson.

CommentChristine AdamsProposedself-stated2:22:36 · ≈ 11:22 AM

Good morning, my name is Christine Adams and I'm a full-time resident and homeowner from Los Alamos. I'm here today to formally object to two items both relating to the legacy home development. Last month the board approved a motion to vacate and abandon public roads in Los Alamos without findings or any public notice Which is in violation of Streets and Highways Code Sections 8-323 and 8324.

In addition, I'm objecting to the motion approving the agreement of construction and dedication of flood control improvements because the EIR referenced in the motion is out-of-date. The EIR is dated 2005 and while it was mentioned earlier that environmental reviews have been done every five years I'd imagine that if this were the case, the motion would reference 2010 or 2015 or 2020.

The EIR requires additional environmental review because there are substantial new impacts that cannot be determined without additional findings. You may have seen the photos and the video I submitted with my letter that showed the flooding and mudslides during the last storm. And that was all around Den, Shaw, and Koiner. Under Guidelines 1516-2A1, substantial increase in the severity of previously identified significant effects.

Under guideline 15-16-2, you must determine that circumstances have not changed significantly to require a new review. And that determination alone would require another look. Over the past 18 years, I can assure you there have been many changes to our environment. I'm asking you that you vote no on the item that has been postponed and to reconsider the vacation and abandonment of the roads in Los Alamos. Thank you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.772:25:01 · ≈ 11:25 AM

Just a reminder, no clapping and cheering.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:25:05 · ≈ 11:25 AM

And also just because you have two minutes doesn't mean you need to use all of the two minutes because when you plan on two minutes sometimes it goes over. I'm not speaking of you in particular there's been a couple folks who did that so just a reminder try to keep it under two minutes.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:25:21 · ≈ 11:25 AM

Jim Albertson to be followed by Michael Ferris.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed2:25:24 · ≈ 11:25 AM

Good morning. In 2005 we were all still using flip phones The iPhone had not been invented. In 2005, the United States had never had an African-American president. In 2005, the EIR for this project was written. In 2006 some guy who ran for president and lost came out with a movie called An Inconvenient Truth That movie predicted horrible hurricanes,

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.772:26:08 · ≈ 11:26 AM

periods of drought followed by periods of flood.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed2:26:15 · ≈ 11:26 AM

Well we've seen that come to pass right? We're seeing Lake Kachuma nearly drained and a very short time later nearly full. In 2015, a flood control plan was devised for Village Square built on the assumptions of the 2005 EIR. The once innocent ignorance of climate change was passed on to the next decade. So here we are in the third decade of this century with you being asked to blindly pass on this ignorance again.

The world has changed, circumstances have changed. Please reject the flood control plan and ask for a subsequent EIR.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:27:22 · ≈ 11:27 AM

Michael Ferris to be followed by Bob Maltese.

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CommentMichael FarrisProposedself-stated2:27:37 · ≈ 11:27 AM

I'm Michael Farris, my family moved to Los Alamos in 1955 and I consider myself the town historian. While driving through Village Square area on Sunday counting the existing houses, I asked myself what's the county doing to support the Los Alamos infrastructure? There are about 30 homes on the streets leading into the new cul-de-sacs, most of which are using Dinn Street to get to Belle, the access street to Highway 101. Village Square will triple that number. The degradation of the streets in Los Alamos is increasing constantly. Los Alamos' share of the county road budget in 2022 appears to have gotten the stop at the street corners repainted.

Where's the water going to come from? During the last drought we were asked to conserve water. Over the next four years, the population went up and overall water consumption went down. Our reward for this was a price increase every year for the next four consecutive years. of more than 30% increase. Cul-de-sacs are notorious for lack of parking. Two of these cul-de sacs will be on streets that were designed to be alleys, they're 15 feet narrower than regular streets.

Every day overflow parking will be on the streets leading into the cul-de sacs. Recently condos were built on the corner of Den and Waite Street another alley due to on street parking in the evening it's impossible for approaching cars to pass each other on wait at that corner. The houses on these new cul-de-sacs will be shoehorned in, this has got to be a fireman's nightmare. How will they even access these homes during a fire? How are waste management vehicles going to turn around with cars parked on the cul de sacs or will they have to back out like they currently do on the west end of Corner? Will the homeowners be prohibited from parking on the street on trash collection days? How's the county planning to address these and other infrastructure issues?

Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:29:32 · ≈ 11:29 AM

Vote will be followed by Christina Flores.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed2:29:37 · ≈ 11:29 AM

Good morning Chair Williams, Board, ladies and gentlemen. I'm here to speak about item A-25. I am a recently retired Lieutenant Colonel from the Air Force, I served at Vandenberg. I've been on and off at Vandenberg since 2002. I've been a resident of Los Alamos since 2008 and I've been a resident of the Central Coast since 1985. As a military member and a government employee, I'd like to think I'm a keen observer of the obvious.

And the most obvious thing to me going on in Los Alamos is water. And we've seen two extremes as has been briefed earlier. So we have floods coming in just weeks ago that this whole board began the conversation with today. And over the past 10 years, we've talked about no water at all. Since 2005, circumstances have changed significantly. And so the ask is to re-look at the EIR carefully with an eye on today's state of affairs. In particular California Environmental Quality Act states and I quote a substantial increase in the severity of previously identified significant effects So I just wanted to bring one simple example to bear. And this is from a USGS slash Vandenberg sponsored study about the San Antonio Creek Valley watershed. It's the hydrogeologic characterization and this report was published in 2022.

From the abstract, I will just briefly point out some key things that gave me pause and should also give you pause namely Back in 1948, we were pulling about 3,000 acre feet from this watershed. And that has increased by an order of magnitude to now 32,600 acre feet in 2018. You'll notice the date 2018 versus the 2005 EIR. So that is my point, things have changed I have many anecdotal items that i could bring up as well with growth in agriculture vineyards the weed farms the extra development All that stuff you know. All of these things have happened since 2005. Additionally, last point, the long-term extraction of groundwater correlates with a decrease in groundwater levels by more than about 150 feet since the early 1940s in the eastern part of the basin near Los Alamos.

So anecdotally we've seen pumps die out.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:32:27 · ≈ 11:32 AM

I'm going to need

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed2:32:28 · ≈ 11:32 AM

you to... Sorry okay thank you so much for your time and patience

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:32:34 · ≈ 11:32 AM

Krishna Flores to be followed by Jim Solis.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 23Proposed2:32:40 · ≈ 11:32 AM

Good morning, it's still morning. Bear with me I'm not a professional public speaker so please be patient. So i'm here today to ask that the board request a subsequent EIR pursuant to CEQA 15162 subdivision A3. I submitted a letter yesterday which goes into much more detail but I'll summarize now so that you can hear directly from me As outlined in my letter to the board, new information with substantial importance has become known and that significant effects previously examined will be substantially more severe than shown in the previous EIR.

Also referencing CEQA 15162 Subdivision A3B. In the Legacy Estates final 05 EIR that has been referenced under drainage, flooding and water quality 4.6.2 impacts and mitigations. There is a quote from the report that says the project development would not result in an exceedance of the following threshold criterion. It specifically says and asks would the project The final finding says that the project is not located near a steep slope subject to mud flows, therefore it will no longer be discussed in the report.

The county's own Flood Control Department completed its own flood report for our town of Los Alamos that specifically states that both the Solomon and Parisma Hills soil profile consists of relatively shallow, heavy textured soil with generally low permeability. The low soil permeability and steep 45 to 50 degrees slopes combine to promote very rapid flash flood type flooding conditions Within the canyons and at the mouth of the canyon where they discharge into Los Alamos Valley.

It further states that, the potential flood hazard is such that it must be addressed from a public safety perspective within the urban area of Los Alamos. This development is right at the foot of the Parisma Hills we witnessed the mud flows coming down. The loss of six point Something acres of permeable soil, which is there now combined with the mud flows that we saw starting to develop is a big problem for this development.

Bigger problem is that the county flood controls own report was included in the EIR and completely omitted and ignored In the final findings, it's completely erroneous. So basing any decisions off of this EIR

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:35:48 · ≈ 11:35 AM

need to ask you to wrap up.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 23Proposed2:35:50 · ≈ 11:35 AM

Is a mistake and it's not a responsible thing for the board to undertake so the request is that you request a subsequent ERP to be done for this project? Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:36:07 · ≈ 11:36 AM

Jim Solis to be followed by our final speaker, E-Planet Thunderstriker.

CommentJim SolisaProposedself-stated2:36:12 · ≈ 11:36 AM

I'm Jim Solisa and I've been a resident of Los Alamos since 2010 and my property is right there on Corner Street on the South End and I do have an amazing view and I have dreaded for years you know houses being built over there however it seems to me that uh there's actually a lot of...I've got my piece here and i've moved here I know there has been a lot of planning done on the place.

It's been engineered and it will be developed. I just like to see it developed right. It is kind of funny, I walk all the time to the end of Main Street where that existing cul-de-sac is. Obviously that cul de sac was put in there, paved everything so houses could go all the way around. There's one house on the end of that cul de sac And with their great view, they should have known that hey there's gonna be other houses gonna be coming in there. So anyway I just wanted to say that not everybody in town is against the development and anyway Steve last night man, I saw your Facebook post tonight. I had watched at six o'clock news. I jumped up where they said about the Southern California gas and I ran to my thermostat and I shut it off.

Also, Steve I think you, I still think you kicked that call. You know basketball in the back. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:37:51 · ≈ 11:37 AM

And for our final speaker ePlanet Thunderstriker.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:37:56 · ≈ 11:37 AM

Last time I spoke, I mentioned I wanted access to the clerk and to risk management. And since then, I found out that I was talking to risk management. I'm going to go over the fact that I had a document stolen from City Hall. My comments I was reading from previously where I'm trying to get to Iceland because of corruption in America. That document Did not go through, and I filed a police report. Although it's stamped, although incorrectly, and multiple people saw me submit it that day.

And it was never...I have been in difficult situation with the music industry for awhile. I'm encountering difficulties during attempted resolution. Well, that's actually in the comments I was trying to get out of this country because of corruption. Let's see. So I gave a synopsis of what was going on when the receptionist was hiding behind the door to John in risk management And he apparently did not give that to his supervisor at the time. I didn't have a big concern because I didn't know John and Greg were with risk management, and I thought well John did what would be appropriate and gave that paper to risk management instead of somebody who's just a low-level administration person.

Now, I don't know if I mentioned before that person who's hiding behind the door. There was no issues when I was here last previous to the summer and I gave 16 pages to Mr. Hart's aides. And so why she's hiding behind the doors is completely inappropriate. Greg said something like well he could maybe get me an interview with Ms. Hartman Well, I just got back from Solvang having multiple interactions with Ms. Hartman's aide completely appropriate and no irrationality going on my part so I was like why would I want to do that? Now Ms. Capps being part of Isla Vista would be appropriate because students have been victimized or intimidated related to this and I just don't have a lot of time but you guys better have a lot of good questions next week because this is BS.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.842:40:04 · ≈ 11:40 AM

Thank you. I have a public comment.

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction2:40:07 · ≈ 11:40 AM

Oh, did you want to address that? Yeah, if I could Chair Williams. Yes, just real quickly. Even though I think they're all walking out, I wanted to thank the community of Los Alamos for coming today's public comment and lending your voice and advocacy for your community. It's important part of the process. I have been listening and researching the issue on your behalf over the last month. And as far as what can be done, I will continue my work and trying to figure out what tools are available to make sure the project is as best as it can if it does in fact move forward.

I do hear your concerns about water, flood control, public safety, traffic and design review. All things that I'm taking into consideration working with county staff to hopefully address for you to meet your community's needs. Thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.842:40:52 · ≈ 11:40 AM

Supervisor Leibman. Thank you Mr. Chair and just as a proud member of Elks Lodge 1538, I was pleased to attend their annual appreciation dinner for our local firefighters and I wanted to publicly congratulate one of our own Alex Park He was honored by the Elks as the Santa Barbara County Firefighter of the Year. He's a 13-year paramedic, came to us in 2013. His family and parents all attended and he represented the county very well.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:41:25 · ≈ 11:41 AM

Thank you And remember, those natural gas prices are going up dramatically. So conserve concern to conserve. So we're gonna take a five minute bio break and we're gonna have set up by our great homeless outreach team in the meantime and we will try to continue with

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.772:41:46 · ≈ 11:41 AM

Alacrity. Thank you. Be the departmental item number one.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:51:16 · ≈ 11:51 AM

Chair Williams and members of the board, departmental item number one is from the Community Services Department. It is to consider recommendations regarding community action plan to address homelessness update including homeless encampment resolution strategy 1 year progress report.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed2:51:33 · ≈ 11:51 AM

Good afternoon, I think it is afternoon. Chair Williams members of the board, not quite okay. George Chapton Director of Community Services. It's my pleasure to introduce you to our housing and community service staff responsible for the homeless issues and i'm going to step aside and give this turn us over to Dinah Lockhart. This could be Dinah's last major presentation to the board and like to give her all the credit in the world for her and her staff and how they've handled The homelessness issues. So I'm going to turn this over to Dinah and she'll introduce the item.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 25Proposed2:52:06 · ≈ 11:52 AM

Thank you very much, George. Good morning Chair Williams and members of the board. In our community, the current housing market is driving people into homelessness. The homeless response system is doing all it can but every year we're seeing more and more people requesting services. The inflow of persons into homelessness is outpacing the number of people we can permanently house.

We have to respond as a community. The board helped prevent homelessness for over 4,000 households by approving over $46 million in emergency rental assistance from federal and state sources. Since that program's application portal was closed in March of 2022, we've seen an uptick in households asking for help through the new prevention hotline. 10 to 20 calls per day, many calls from requesting thousands of dollars in rental arrears assistance.

People need help out of housing crises and that includes even county staff who are being displaced because of rising rents Today, we will be sharing a brief overview of the recent storm response. Some current statistics highlights from the 18 months progress report from the Community Action Plan to address homelessness and highlights from the year one progress report on the encampment resolution strategy here with me today are Kimberly Albers homeless assistance program manager and Lucille Boss encampments response coordinator Fifteen days ago, we were reminded why unsheltered homelessness is always unsafe, unacceptable and must be addressed with urgency as extreme weather becomes more frequent.

Service providers connected with people distributing flyers with shelter information and transporting individuals to shelters The county worked closely with Good Samaritan Shelter, the Freedom Warming Centers and other partners to ensure safe warm spaces would be open 24-7 and that meals staffing and supplies would be available. Throughout another stormy weekend January 13th through the 17th four regional warming shelters opened and 100 to 150 people per day were served That's 100 and 150 people who would have been outside in dangerous conditions, but instead were able to rest safely inside and make valuable connections with service providers and others.

They came inside because they trusted the people who were communicating information to them and because shelter was being provided continuously through the storm period. I would be remiss if I didn't point out that today is the start of the 24-hour period when the community attempts to count every person experiencing homelessness. We want to thank everyone who is participating in the Point In Time Count, including members of the Board of Supervisors and members of your staff.

And so today we are asking the board to receive and file a presentation on homelessness in Santa Barbara County, including the community action plan to address homelessness and the encampment resolution strategy year one progress report. To authorize the Community Services Director or designee to submit an application for up to $6 million to the California Interagency Council on Homelessness for the second round of California Encampment Response Funding, SERF 2.

To authorize the community services director or designee to execute all certifications standard forms for the California encampment resolution funding and to provide other direction as appropriate. Kimberly.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 26Proposed2:56:14 · ≈ 11:56 AM

In late 2021, through a new federal initiative called House America, counties and cities were asked to set ambitious goals to rehouse community members and develop new units. In response to this call for action the elected leaders forum to address homelessness set local goals to rehouse 1000 people and add 100 units to the development pipeline in 2022. We met our goals.

1,050 persons were rehoused in 2022 despite soaring rents and an extremely low rental vacancy rate. And this significant achievement was accomplished through the tireless efforts of service providers and coordination efforts of county staff in the continuum of care. We also continue to see permanent housing projects, new development added to the pipeline and 109 units were added to the development pipeline in 2022 which for House America means groundbreaking or fully funded.

The number of unhoused persons accessing services and shelter is increasing For our Homeless Management Information System, the number of persons served in 2022 was 4,620 up from 3,094 in 2019. This represents a 49% increase but we attribute the increase to three factors. Number one, the overall number of persons experiencing homelessness is increasing. The point-in time count For the period between January 2019 and February 2022 shows a 9% increase. And of course we'll have more current data in the next couple of weeks.

Number two, there are more resources available to serve more people. And the third more data is being captured in our data collection systems. The short bar chart shows the number of children served minors and families And it shows an increase of 87 percent. While 746 children experiencing homelessness is startling, the increase shown is largely because the Department of Social Services is now entering data into the Homeless Management Information System for their housing support program.

Their data provides us a more complete look at families experiencing homelessness The inclusion of their housing support program represents an increase of 379 children between 2019 and 2022. This more complete data picture will allow us to make better informed decisions about resource allocation and service needs, to better serve our families with minor children experiencing homelessness.

Why does it feel like there's limited progress? The number of persons presenting for services, the inflow is represented by the blue line. Is outpacing the number of persons that we can exit to permanent housing. The outflow represented by the orange line by 2-1 in 2022. Service providers report a steady stream of persons who are experiencing homelessness desperately seeking services.

We are seeing this increase in need despite this board's quick actions to prevent homelessness through tenant protections and emergency rental assistance. In mid-2021, as students return to college campuses and rents soared you can see a marked increase in the inflow and a decrease in the persons we were able to rehouse. And of course there's some impact of the inflow because we have that increase in folks accessing services We did take out a couple of slides to save some time today, so we're gonna jump to that Community Action Plan 18-month progress report. We'll go to that next slide.

The Community Action Plan is organized by five strategies and we'll briefly review those over the next few slides. Strategy one is to increase the access to safe and affordable housing. And the four points under the title on this slide outline some of those key action steps. We track three different housing interventions, permanent which are new units and long-term rental subsidies paired with supportive services.

Interim housing which is inclusive of emergency shelter low barrier navigation centers transitional housing and or bridge housing and rapid rehousing which is time limited rental assistance with wraparound case management, which is also considered permanent housing. The first row is the gap identified in 2019 during the drafting of the Community Action Plan.

The second row shows the progress since approval of the plan in 2021. The third row calculates the remaining need. The fourth row shows projects either in the development or pre-development phase. Projects in the pre-development phase may still need additional analysis, major site improvements and or significant funding. And we've mapped some of the progress by region over the next few slides.

As Dinah mentioned, unsheltered homelessness is unsafe, unacceptable and must be addressed with urgency. Interim housing to end unsheltered homelessness and encampments is critical while additional permanent housing opportunities are developed. This board has reviewed a list of potential county-owned sites and provided direction to staff to move forward with locations for community engagement, site planning, establishment and operation of interim housing projects.

The use of county or use by right sites is necessary to expedite the development process. Thank you. The first three sites listed are in partnership with Dignity Moves. A community information session will take place tomorrow at 6 p.m here at the Better Avia Government Center to discuss the Hope Village project. I want to take a moment to acknowledge Dignity Moves for their current and ongoing partnership. We are so grateful to them for bringing their innovative, affordable interim housing project model to Santa Barbara County. Dignity Moves is actively fundraising for these projects.

This list of sites will meet the gap of interim housing beds identified in the Community Action Plan. HomeKey, the state funding program is a primary source but previous rounds of HomeKey have required 15 year site commitments So now we'll go through some maps here. We have the new projects in North County dedicated to homelessness that have either were deep in the opening process as the plan was being finalized or has opened since the plan was approved.

And if you see that little hammer, that means it is in the development or pre-development phase. And so this first slide, you're looking at North County Where West Cox Cottages has opened, we have units in the development phase at Escalante Meadows and Guadalupe. And of course the interim housing project I mentioned earlier Hope Village here at the Better Avia Government Center New units dedicated to homelessness in Mid-County include accessory dwelling units at Marks House, the Home Key Studios project and several permanent projects in Mid-County developing permanent housing.

And as shown on the previous slides, it's further expansion at the Bridgehouse Campus to meet the gap. We also are showing new units dedicated to homelessness in South County, a long list there of permanent housing projects including several that are under development or that pre-development phase in both the permanent housing column and the interim housing column. And I just wanna point out that where rooms are denoted those may be occupied by more than one person or more than one bed.

The second strategy in the Community Action Plan is to use best practices to deliver tailored supportive services to meet individual needs. Specific progress includes increased funding through fiscal recovery funds to expand the county multidisciplinary team for outreach, and they're still in the process of recruiting for positions. The state has started to provide consistent funding to serve persons with disabilities Connecting them to benefits and housing. And this is a new program to our county that launched in August 2022, and will serve 150 households.

Deploying a new model for housing retention services for emergency housing voucher recipients. The public housing authorities received 272 long-term rental assistance vouchers under emergency housing. The Good Samaritan Shelter Service Team assists with the transition into permanent housing and provides retention supports for three years. This includes mental health support, substance abuse counseling and intensive case management. The voucher provides the long-term rental assistance.

I'd like to share a brief story that demonstrates the emergency housing voucher model. One of the emergency housing voucher participants had been experiencing homelessness since 2010. During his time on the streets, this gentleman suffered from a severe substance abuse disorder living on the streets and in a wheelchair. He would spend each day looking for his next high and a safe place to sleep.

In August, he was referred for an emergency housing voucher and now has a place to call home. Since his move into senior housing where he is utilizing the voucher, he has been linked to a myriad of supportive services. The team substance abuse specialist began seeing him in this home and providing encouragement and options on how to battle his addiction. A few months ago, he made the choice to start medical assisted treatment. While continuing to work with the substance abuse specialist.

In addition, this client has 1 of the team's mental health practitioners providing in home weekly therapy and has reunited with some of his estranged family members for additional support. The best part is the wheelchair that bound him for so long is no longer part of his life as the need for it went away, has his health improved? The emergency housing voucher model demonstrates what it takes to house people with complex needs. The rental assistance subsidy averages $18,000 per year and the services $7,000 per year for an overall cost of $25,000 annually to provide permanent supportive housing.

The third strategy of the Community Action Plan was to build a collective action plan and improve data sharing. Progress includes, of course, approval of the plan by jurisdictions, the continuum of care in the county and further monitoring by the elected leaders forum. The launch of an easily accessible local data dashboard of the Homeless Management Information System, quarterly data monitoring of all providers And participation, as I mentioned earlier in HMIS has really increased by agencies and county departments. We now have over 250 end users entering data in HMIS. In May of 2019 that number was 69.

New participants include the University of California Santa Barbara and SenCal Health. The use of mapping software has also really improved the effectiveness of street outreach. Strategy four is to strengthen support systems available to help residents obtain and maintain housing. Progress includes increased coordination and participation in the coordinated entry system. It is now common to have over 50 frontline staff members joining in for bimonthly case conferencing sessions.

Case conferencing specific to veterans, unaccompanied youth and families with minor children also occurs regularly to expedite placements for these populations with dedicated resources. Earlier we mentioned the Emergency Rental Assistance Program to prevent evictions and there is also now that dedicated prevention hotline attempting to resolve housing instability before loss of housing or shelter entry.

The launching of the California Advancing and Innovating Medi-Cal, CalAIM is progress. Administered locally through SenCal Health, California is recognizing that housing is a key social determinant of health. The System Changing Program. This system changing program makes things like enhanced case management, sobering centers, security deposits, housing transition navigation and tenancy sustaining services all eligible for Medi-Cal reimbursement.

Much more to come on this in the months ahead. Our fifth strategy, our system has built provider capacity to address the needs of specific populations. Progress includes the Youth Homelessness Demonstration Program Award to have specific funding to plan to end youth homelessness that is ongoing The Veterans Administration is providing surge funding to assist veterans and their families. We have a pending application with HUD, but for ongoing funding for domestic violence solutions rapid rehousing program for survivors which we're hoping to hear about soon.

And in order to demonstrate the needs of a domestic violence survivor, I'd like to share a brief story from Domestic Violence Solutions. Julia, the name has been changed is a DV survivor and mother of two children both under six years old. Julia is monolingual Spanish speaking and has worked in local agriculture fields for the past five years when her abuser was arrested for domestic violence, Julia left the relationship with her children.

She began working with several of domestic violence solutions programs, among them the rapid rehousing program that was funded by coronavirus relief dollars. Julia was an active participant and when a unit rental unit was secured, Domestic Violence Solution was able to assist her with the deposit and six months of rental assistance. During that period, Julia was able to utilize her income for medical needs, obtain her driver's license, her food handler certificate and save some emergency funds.

Julia is now taking courses at Allan Hancock College and she hopes to become a licensed baker. and be able to work at what she loves. She is very grateful for the financial assistance that Domestic Violence Solutions was able to provide her, and she states that her current safety home and security would not have been possible without the financial help and support.

Now we'll shift to the encampment resolution strategy. I want to thank the board for leading the way by providing the funding and approving the framework to address encampments. There is a detailed year one progress report in your agenda packet, and one of the biggest successes has been having a single point-of-person to coordinate the county's response. Lucille Boss has had a very busy year, and I want to publicly recognize her efforts as the Encampment Response Coordinator And coordinating the storm response for persons experiencing homelessness in the recent extreme weather. Lucille, thank you.

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CommentRenee O'NeillProposed · by introduction3:12:22 · ≈ 12:12 PM

Thank you on this slide. You'll see the steps taken in year one. The board adopted the encampment resolution strategy including the encampment response protocol and team and improved the encampment response coordinator role. At the same time, the board dedicated American Rescue Plan Act state and local recovery funds to strategy implementation beds and units.

The team was deployed to encampments on county owned and county controlled sites. And following their assessments and resolution of encampments, we were able to remove debris thanks to approval of a sanitation services contract. We're now well into implementation of consistent county wide use of mapping software. We've seen an expansion of outreach teams and the opening of new interim housing beds.

The encampment resolution strategy gave us the framework to resolve encampments, but the biggest challenge by far is the lack of shelter which provides an effective path to housing solutions and permanent housing. This has limited the ability to resolve active encampments because of this limitation county resources have primarily been dedicated to removing debris from already abandoned encampments Many people who remain unsheltered have all of the documents needed to move into permanent housing, but there's a lack of affordable housing units for permanent placements.

Due to overriding public safety concerns many encampments are being cleared without appropriate shelter or storage and this results in people moving from one area or encampment to another disrupting engagement with outreach teams and the displaced persons lose faith in systems of care We'd also like to highlight successes. In addition to the American Rescue Plan Act state and local recovery funds, county staff worked with partner jurisdictions and agencies to apply for competitive California encampment resolution funding and were awarded funds dedicated to resolving encampments along the transit corridors throughout our county.

In order to launch these efforts, the County of Santa Barbara participated in a 100-day challenge to address homelessness. Homeless service providers, jurisdictional staff and key community partners engaged in planning and goal setting and attended weekly check-in meetings to discuss progress and coach fellow team members through barriers. Pending approval of today's recommended actions, the county intends to apply for funds dedicated to resolving encampments near waterways including riverbeds, creeks and beaches throughout our county County staff continues to coordinate with key stakeholders in an effort to develop and formalize collaborative, organized approaches to address unsheltered homelessness at encampments. Establishing effective, scalable and replicable demonstration efforts.

Following the board's approval of an agreement for interim housing beds, California Encampment Resolution funds are providing shelter for up to 12 persons at a time. Expanded data collection efforts have given us a clear picture of the extent of encampments throughout our county. The metrics initially approved have not been as accurate in capturing the actual work and movement of encampments as originally proposed.

County-funded street outreach providers began using the fulcrum mapping software in early 2021, and in year one 961 sites were mapped by outreach providers. The list in the progress report in your agenda packet shows a complete picture of encampments throughout Santa Barbara County, as it captures all sites reported in year one. Sites on private city and other public parcels while recorded in the mapping software may have been removed by Caltrans cities and other community groups.

Working closely with street outreach teams and jurisdictions, the metrics listed in the progress report have been the most relevant to a complete picture of encampment response and resolution. Active encampments, those on a path to resolution, and other status categories. The mapping software allows teams to record individual sites which were most often found in clusters.

Of the 380 sites assessed, 148 sites in 14 clusters were assessed by the full encampment response team. An additional 232 sites reported as inactive or abandoned following movement to shelter, housing or another unsheltered location were assessed by the Encampment Response Coordinator and removed by the contracted sanitation services provider. As persons experiencing homelessness and outreach providers await shelter beds and affordable housing units to become available it's also important to track document readiness increases in income through employment or benefits and connections to other services based on individuals needs In the first chart on this slide, you can see the percentage of persons who accepted shelter.

Persons may decline initial offers of shelter for a number of reasons lack of privacy and congregate settings Inability to access all of their personal belongings and distance from their network, such as a workplace or health care providers may present transportation or access challenges. Because of these challenges, persons who initially moved from encampments into shelter may return to unsheltered homelessness.

The second chart on the slide shows an overall reduction of calls for service to county fire. The goals and performance measures set forth in the Encampment Resolution Strategy were intended to ensure streets and open spaces are safe and clean. Meet the housing, shelter and service referral needs of individuals experiencing homelessness. Improve the medical and behavioral health of individuals experiencing homelessness.

And deliver coordinated services to effectively address and resolve encampments by developing efficient means to manage calls for service and prioritize resources and effectively share information and coordinate resources countywide. Next steps include continued development of interim housing and permanent affordable housing units. The interim housing beds discussed earlier are critical to ending unsheltered homelessness, developing a memorandum of understanding to formalize collaborative organized approaches to address unsheltered homelessness at encampments and continuing to seek funding to resolve encampments as noted a few moments ago.

This includes a recommended action before you today A second round of California Encampment Resolution funding has been released and the county intends to apply for funds dedicated to resolving encampments near waterways, such as riverbeds, creeks and beaches throughout our county. The $6 million if funded will expand specialized outreach teams and interim sheltering that will provide pathways to permanent housing for persons currently living in or near waterways.

As we take these steps in parallel with using best practices to deliver tailored supportive services to meet individual needs and strengthening support systems available to help clients obtain and maintain their housing, we're building capacity to address the complex needs of some of our most vulnerable community members. I'll turn now back to Dinah.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.773:19:43 · ≈ 12:19 PM

Supervisor Nelson has

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:19:45 · ≈ 12:19 PM

a question.

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction3:19:45 · ≈ 12:19 PM

Yeah, thank you Chair Williams just quick question on that waterway grant one of the big issues in Santa Maria Valley is obviously the Santa Maria River and that you know it is both San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara County how is that factored into that grant are we going to be able to have that cooperation with San Luis County as potentially co-applicants or work through that to make sure that we are adjusting those homeless who are our homeless but just Happen to be going over the jurisdictional boundary into another jurisdiction in our waterways.

CommentRenee O'NeillProposed · by introduction3:20:16 · ≈ 12:20 PM

Thank you for that question, we are coordinating not what just with cities and potential environmental agencies but also with San Luis Obispo County were meeting with all the jurisdictions including their county this Friday to discuss how we how we might coordinate on the application. We do also have regular outreach coordination with their county teams

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction3:20:37 · ≈ 12:20 PM

I just want to make sure that when we go forward with that grant, that somehow is not excluded from a location that we're addressing just because it happens to be outside of our jurisdictional boundary.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:20:47 · ≈ 12:20 PM

Understood.

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction3:20:48 · ≈ 12:20 PM

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 25Proposed3:20:53 · ≈ 12:20 PM

So if that staff does conclude its presentation again, the recommended actions are to accept this presentation to authorize the community services director On behalf of the county to apply for $6 million to the California Interagency Council on Homelessness for the second round of California Encampment Resolution funding and to authorize the director or designee to sign all certifications and application materials for this CERF grant funding, and to provide any other direction as appropriate.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.843:21:30 · ≈ 12:21 PM

Supervisor Lavinia. Thank you Mr. Chair, I have a question about Well, it's you know when you look at the performance measures I think the one that stands out to me that you talked about. I mean some of them are amazing successes but the one that isn't is is the most concerning and that is the 15% or 13% that actually accept when we're there. That we say now are we is that 15% we're telling them we actually have a place for you and they don't want to go? Or we're saying you have to move but there's nowhere to go

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 26Proposed3:22:04 · ≈ 12:22 PM

I think I'll start. So that is when we're going out to post or previous to the posting, asking them if you know presenting the offer of shelter, but I will say that because of limited shelter beds right that's often It doesn't feel tangible to the person. And I think Lucille talked to some of the reasons, other reasons that they say but we too, what we had as the model for the 60% threshold was when we were offering hotel rooms when there was a higher success rate but when we were offering congregate shelter beds maybe a place where they had already been and potentially had failed then we did see that lower acceptance rate

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.843:22:51 · ≈ 12:22 PM

Okay, and then just kind of refresh for me and for the public I guess because you know a lot of what I hear is people want a lot. I guess I would characterize it as like a firmer hand on When it comes to resolution of encampments, if you could just kind of talk a little bit about what the state and federal laws are with regard to what we're allowed to do. What we aren't allowed to do that would help. And I don't know if that's a Rachel question or who but

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 26Proposed3:23:24 · ≈ 12:23 PM

definitely like County Council to address.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 27Proposed3:23:32 · ≈ 12:23 PM

Thank you. Mr. Chair and members of the board, so there are a number of restrictions both in federal and state law and one of those is what staff has been referring to on when we are offering relocation. Part of that is that we don't just break up an encampment, but we do provide another option for an individual to go. So that's one of the primary things and then also based on the sources of funding that we received that we use for different purposes there are also additional restrictions sometimes.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.843:24:14 · ≈ 12:24 PM

Okay so you have to have a place to go but that could be I guess then that becomes the question. If congregate care is offered and the person rejects it, we still can forcibly, well we can shut down that encampment site correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 27Proposed3:24:35 · ≈ 12:24 PM

Mr. Chair and Supervisor Labadino yes that's correct as long as we are offering we need to offer a bed and shelter but that can come in all different forms

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 26Proposed3:24:45 · ≈ 12:24 PM

And that's what you see there in the slides, Supervisor Levin. You know is where the 154 were occupants right? Right that we did post and still remove the encampment even if someone denied shelter. But because of limited access to shelter beds, exactly oftentimes did work on abandoned encampments because we weren't able to address active encampments because we did not have shelter beds to offer

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.843:25:11 · ≈ 12:25 PM

correct OK. Thank you. I have comments, but those are my only questions Supervisor Hartman

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.813:25:20 · ≈ 12:25 PM

As I was listening to you speak, we've had unprecedented amount of money and resources going into this effort. Of course we've also seen unprecedented rise in housing costs in our county but the amount of funding and resources that your small staff has managed to put to good use is really staggering. And I've heard people call you the dream team And we're really going to miss you, Dinah as head of the DREAM team.

But as I listen to speak it strikes me... We've learned that at least for the longer term homeless they don't like congregate shelter and they won't stay for long so we really need to provide A door that locks and the tiny home model now, the dignity moves. I think that's a really promising one but I think three years is sort of what we're thinking so you know I'm very excited about the 3D home maybe that will be achieved. We must provide housing that's cheaper for people to get them stable because again as I'm listening to you talk you can provide services but if you don't Within a certain period of time, get the housing. I'm just wondering are the services...

The value deteriorates because the trust in the overall system goes down and you can't keep people's lives together. Anyway that I hadn't really thought about how the two need to be really correlated and didn't know if you had any comments about that?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 25Proposed3:27:09 · ≈ 12:27 PM

Chair and Supervisor Hartman, I think that's why you're seeing these interim housing sites being identified. I think there are four different sites throughout the county. The approach now and I think we've seen some really successful models not only through Dignity Moves but also even through the Homekeep program is that people do want their own individual unit. I think as we heard the stress level comes down for people they can then begin to focus on And we heard a little bit about that earlier in this meeting. That sometimes there's community opposition, right? So to the extent that these interim housing sites are on county controlled land, Control and monitor the development process that gets a little trickier even in our incorporated cities and private property.

So But I think we'll hear more about those interim sites in the future

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 26Proposed3:28:20 · ≈ 12:28 PM

and supervisor Hartman through the chair I just wanted to add that we have over 600 congregate shelters that beds that stay full day in and day out so while you know, definitely there's a move towards a non-congregant model I just it would be remiss not to give credit to those congregate shelter providers that Literally stay packed every day. I think I checked with Good Samaritan yesterday and they had 92 of their 90 beds full, 69 of their 70 beds full in Lompoc. I spoke with Transition House yesterday. They have a long wait list so congregate shelter is still definitely part of the solution and just want to make sure that we're thinking of both.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.813:29:04 · ≈ 12:29 PM

And if I might respond, thank you for that correction. I'm thinking more of the encampment resolution strategy and the longer term homeless where they, I think what I've learned is a door that locks that they're not used to being in a congregate setting as much.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.773:29:28 · ≈ 12:29 PM

Well my, I guess go

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:29:31 · ≈ 12:29 PM

ahead Supervisor Caps.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:29:33 · ≈ 12:29 PM

Thank you. Thank you, Chair Williams. I thank you for the presentation and I want to thank Ms. Boss for giving me a personal tour of the encampments last spring as enlightening to see it up close because you don't really see it from afar until you're actually out on the Thank you. I wanted to speak about the statistics related to children. I was quite alarmed to see that 87% increase, the statistic I have been told maybe two years ago was that in our public schools in Santa Barbara County it's 13 percent of our children are houseless and so I would extrapolate that has increased and just curious what you're finding in terms of shelter? Are these Do we have enough? It seems that we need more shelters that accommodate children, but where are we sort of in that ratio versus adults and to Supervisor Hartman's point.

That's also another area where people want to close their door if they are caring for the young child in that shelter so if you could speak to that please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 26Proposed3:30:37 · ≈ 12:30 PM

So we are seeing an increase amongst families I think if we were still working on getting transition houses data in. And once it's complete, it'd be about 20% to 22% of our homeless population are children and families with you know so it's staggering. So the way Good Samaritan operates is they do somewhat prioritize families so it's a fluctuating Thank you so much for joining us.

Um, like I said in South County very limited to transition house and they maintain a wait list always. So there is an incredible need for shelter safe shelter for all populations but we definitely want to make sure that we're. I'm always thinking of families with minor children as well, especially preschool age. I think that's where we're seeing a little bit of a surge as well in this newly homeless are those families.

The housing support program that Department of Social Services is operating now is the largest initiative to rehouse families. The state has really upticked that funding source and so they're serving many more families We never know for sure, right? Is that because there's more resources they're serving more families or because there are more families. But we certainly hear anecdotally from providers that more families are desperately seeking services. So I don't think I completely answered because there isn't a good answer. They're absolutely families that need shelter and we do not have a bed for them.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:32:25 · ≈ 12:32 PM

And in terms of the list that you put on this, it was on the screen with the little hammer next to it. In terms of production are there some of those that are coming online? Will they serve as

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 26Proposed3:32:37 · ≈ 12:32 PM

families? So we don't have an interim housing project particularly online yet. There is talk of one I think in the Dignity Moves model and Transition House is currently under construction with another project for families, and we had the Pedregosa family project was one of the ones listed. And some of those units that are under construction for permanent housing will include two- and three-bedroom units.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:33:06 · ≈ 12:33 PM

Excellent, well count me as a champion. I know Mr. Riley and I met with the superintendent of Santa Barbara Unified on my final days but um i just see it as just one factor in my experience on the school board is when you when there isn't a home for a child so many challenges obviously but one is that just the lack of communication from the school uh there's no way to really connect and then they just fall further further behind in terms of all the services Just another element that you don't often think about.

My only other question was related to, in your presentation I was struck with all the funding of course but just all the administrative burden and from the state are we advocating can we be advocating with our state legislators to reduce some of that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 26Proposed3:33:51 · ≈ 12:33 PM

Supervisor Capps to the chair. So we have been banging the gong with the departments, Cal ICH and State HCD really trying to say that it truly has become so burdensome that it's affecting service delivery. We can put in a reimbursement for payment with the state and they're already asking for client files before they'll issue a check in an active grant The HMIS burden legislature, state legislature continues to pass numerous bills to increase accountability of homeless providers which means more and more data collection.

More and more backup, more and more verification of eligibility so we definitely have been sharing that with the departments who do seem frustrated themselves with the amount of bills going through the legislature that are increasing that administrative burden but We need advocates. You know we want accountability, we absolutely want the money to be used wisely but when we're going to a provider that doesn't even receive administrative funds after their first request for reimbursement saying we need you know 17 client files and all of your backup to send to the state before they're issued a check it's I've been doing this a long time and I've never seen anything like it in my career

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:35:16 · ≈ 12:35 PM

I imagine you have

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 26Proposed3:35:16 · ≈ 12:35 PM

it in

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:35:17 · ≈ 12:35 PM

a mental list, but do you have actually like a list of if these are the if you could change things? If you were in Sacramento, these are the five things we would reduce in terms of the administrative burden.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 26Proposed3:35:28 · ≈ 12:35 PM

I probably could come up with that list pretty

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:35:30 · ≈ 12:35 PM

easily. Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Chair Williams.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:35:36 · ≈ 12:35 PM

So I think from that exchange, it's safe to say we have a massive need for Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the Board of Supervisors. There are people who don't accept placements in the congregate one, but we haven't run out of enough people who do accept the placements yet. And so we haven't yet And it's possible we'll get there someday, but we aren't there yet. I just want us to be thinking about that from a perspective of fiscal sustainability.

We made the right call in trying to allocate these funds over three years and by the way I hope anybody, if there's still anybody watching they will also look at this item in the context of the first five or six administrative items to the commitment of the county Between your department and behavioral wellness to addressing this from both a recidivism perspective, a permanent supportive housing perspective and mental health perspective in a basic shelter perspective.

Today just today is in the tens of millions of dollars And so we're prepared to step up, but I do think in the era of state deficits where we have to be thinking about the long-term fiscal sustainability of the effort and how we achieve that. Part of that is we have operations that can have economies of scale whether they're congregate or non-congregate Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the board.

Progress made. And then I wouldn't want to reach any conclusion today without indicating that we could do the best job in the world and put this amount of money every year into this, and we still will be drowning if we don't address the larger issue of housing affordability for everyone It is not an accident that areas with higher rents and higher home prices also have greater levels of homelessness.

And I think too often we do not connect those issues, but if people who are fairly middle class are trying to get into The most the cheapest apartments in the city or county, then that is going to obviously displace people who are even more at the margins. And so I think I want a printed out version of that influx, outflux slide. And I just want it maybe this size on plastic and I'm just going to pin it to myself because we need to explain this to everyone what's going on and why it's gonna take sustained effort To quote solve homelessness unquote.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 26Proposed3:40:02 · ≈ 12:40 PM

Supervisor Williams, I was just going to really quick comment that you know it really shows that exact correlation right as rents rose. That's when we saw the steep. You know the rise in people accessing services so you see the direct correlation on the slide as we were literally watching rents rise.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.843:40:25 · ≈ 12:40 PM

Supervisor Lavin. Yeah, well we're talking about the funding of it. I'm hoping because this is the most frustrating part of it is you spent $89 million and the problem actually got significantly worse. It wasn't because of what anything we did. It's the fact that it's... That's the facts. The numbers show us that there's more people homeless right now than there were and we've spent a record amount of money on it. What my What my hope is, is that the change of this model which I've been hoping for a long time where instead of trying to go out into an encampment and try to make a connection with somebody. Which I know we're still going to do but trying to offer services to somebody while they're in encampment to me just seemed like I mean, I saw it.

I saw people trying to do it and while it's worthy and it's with the best of intentions, I just don't think is very effective. I think this move now to sheltering somebody and then providing services is going to be way excuse me not only more effective but it's gonna be way cheaper to do in the long run because Having to go to somebody as we've been told 20, 25, 30 times before they say okay I'm ready to go. As opposed to you bring somebody into one of our tiny homes and then provide services.

I think that model is gonna be cheaper for us in the long run and much more effective. So I'm hoping on the money front of it that's where this savings is gonna be in the long run.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:42:05 · ≈ 12:42 PM

We have a comment on this item?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:42:08 · ≈ 12:42 PM

Chair Williams and members of the board we do have one request to speak.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:42:12 · ≈ 12:42 PM

Matt Riley.

PresenterMatt RileyDignity MovesProposedself-stated3:42:20 · ≈ 12:42 PM

You have a longer microphone? Chairman Williams, members of the board My name is Matt Riley. I'm the Regional Executive Director of Dignity Moves. Really, I just wanted to come up here and introduce the organization a little bit public and also be here for questions if anybody has them about our organization. But first, I want to say thank you to the Community Development Department and the CEO's office and staff. Just been a tremendous partner in this in kind of trying to address a very complicated issue so I just want to say thank you It's an honor to speak with you guys today about this.

Dignity Moves is a 501c3 nonprofit. We basically what we do is we provide the infrastructure, the rooms for a lot of other good organizations to do some very difficult work and what we like to think that we do is we provide these rooms in a fairly rapid way To accelerate some of the goals that you've outlined in the Community Action Plan. So, that's our role in this is to try to help all of you and all of us achieve some of those objectives by putting some doors in place and a safe place for people to go.

And what happens after we put those doors in is that organizations like Good Samaritan fighting back Santa Maria Valley sitting at others can go in and do great work as services organizations on the day-to-day activities that they perform there. We also implement a public private partnership in terms of funding, it's been referenced and hinted at a little bit tonight working with foundations and individuals, counties, cities, other nonprofits to fund the capital costs for these interim housing solutions and I think that's pretty innovative actually I want to make a couple of comments related to things that have been mentioned already. With interim housing, what we typically see and I'm by no means the best expert for this folks at Good Samaritan or other organizations maybe but what we do see is that not everyone that That goes through this interim housing system actually ends up in permanent supportive housing within that jurisdiction.

Oftentimes, what happens is that they'll reconnect with family members that they've lost touch with and that might be a housing solution that they have or They receive employment because for the first time they have an address and now they can do laundry, take showers. And that helps with employment opportunities. And they may decide that Santa Barbara County may not be the place that they want to live because of the cost of living. So they move outside of the area. This isn't just Santa Barbara County this is Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the Board of Supervisors.

If we're successful, if the county is successful in implementing some of these and having more doors available, we hope that we can catch people sooner. And I think that is where Supervisor Lavagnino was mentioning could this ultimately become more cost effective? When you get to that point where somebody enters into unsheltered homelessness and we can bring them into a place that has a door, it's safe where they can easily get back up on their feet. I think that's where we really start to achieve some pretty significant change. That might be out in the future a bit but this is the objective that Dignity Moves aspires to achieve.

And lastly, I'll just finish with Wanted to just share our appreciation for this Board of Supervisors for showing leadership. This is a very complicated issue. I think that you are showing leadership in a way that many jurisdictions struggle with, so I'd like to appreciate that and again I'm here for any questions that you might have. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:46:55 · ≈ 12:46 PM

Thank You Matt. Mr. Nelson?

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction3:46:59 · ≈ 12:46 PM

Yeah I just want to make a few comments When I got on the Board of Supervisors, this is an issue that I really wanted to get my arms around and work on. When I was chair actually called a special meeting to discuss this. And I've gotten to spend a lot of time with encampments and those that are without homes and realizing that if we are going to be a humane society, we need to make sure that we're taking care of those people. It's not safe for anyone to be living outside It's not safe for the general public, and it's definitely not safe for those individuals. And even worse if it's a woman or children.

And so I've always made that 1 of things that I just believe in my heart and that I am going to be work tirelessly to address. Wanted to focus on is making sure that we as a community in San Barbara County, that we raise the floor. On what we are except we're willing for people to potentially fall and government provide a social safety net but unfortunately about that safety net hit the ground and keep going for many people in our community.

And I really believe that with us getting after encampments the way we have in this county, with some of these bridge shelter programs that we're going to invest in. We're really going to be able make a dent on that. That we're really gonna be able to show people that are out there that there is an option for them that may be a transition that as Matt and others have talked about can get their life on track.

And then it can really make a positive difference in their life. It also gives a tool for us as a county. Many of you may or may not know that we can't just exit people from public property if we don't have the appropriate amount of shelter beds available. It's legally prohibited by at least a Ninth Circuit decision, Boise. And so this is an important ingredient. It doesn't solve all the problems, but at least gets us moving in a direction where we can actually make a difference. We can work with our cities, our rangers, our sheriffs and police departments who are necessary, our outreach workers altogether not to necessarily harass people but to try to encourage them to get the services that they need to change their lives and improve our community as a whole.

So I'm really excited about this. I'm really excited about the opportunity to work with Dignity Moves I want to just, you know, shout out to Matt and Terry for all their hard work on working on this project that we're going to be talking to the community about tomorrow night here in this room. About what we potentially can offer here just right across the street directly across from Steve's desk. You'll be looking out of there and I think that shows the commitment that Steve and myself and the board has had that, you know.

We know it's a problem and we're just not going to put in somebody else's backyard. We're gonna put in our front yard, and we're gonna go ahead and make sure that we have a project here if it gets through this public process That we can keep our eyes on that we can get immediate feedback and that we can make sure that we can be stewards of that for the community as a whole so I'm you know there's a lot of work to be done And I could debate with Supervisor Williams on whether it's home prices or it's weather or whatever the other issues are. That's really not important at the end of the day, what's important right now is for us to address these immediate needs that we have in our community and I'm looking forward to continue to do that as a board and with these investments so thank you.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.843:50:11 · ≈ 12:50 PM

Supervisor Lavigny. Yeah, I do just want to touch on tomorrow's meeting and making sure we invite everybody in the community that's interested We've done a I think a pretty stellar outreach program. I've made personal calls to homeowners and business owners in the area You know for me And I know Bob feels the same way is this Santa Maria solution for a Santa Maria problem? we have the commitment of our staff and others that We're not bringing people in from Santa Barbara to house them up in this project.

I have so many pictures of just looking outside my window right here of how many homeless are already in this area. And I understand, I totally understand people's hesitancy. Nobody wants to very few people will say I want a temporary homeless shelter in my backyard. I get that. I do want to emphasize it's also temporary. It's not going to be there forever and this is a public private partnership Private investment allows us to be more creative also, to make the place look better than it would if this was just a federally funded program.

The fact that we have and I think this is what brought the city of Santa Maria on board. The fact that we were able to staff was able to take the mayor and some council members down and actually show them this is actually already happening in Santa Barbara because a lot of times what we hear in Santa Maria as well yeah you want in Santa Maria but you sure wouldn't do this in Santa Barbara but it isn't Santa Barbara already And it's working. So, and I think it really comes down to who we're working with. I trust Sylvia.

I trust Edward Weaver. I trust Dignity Moves. I think we've got a really good team together. And at the end of the day, it might not work. You're right but status quo as Bob says is totally unacceptable and I haven't really heard any other proposals that make a lot of sense. I do get a lot of ideas most of them are illegal So we're going to try this and if it doesn't work I'll be the first one to say it didn't work and let's try something else.

And so again 6 p.m here in this room tomorrow have all your questions answered or as best that we can, and hopefully we get a full house. Supervisor Hart?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.813:52:36 · ≈ 12:52 PM

Two points, I mean we have the Isla Vista experience and it worked. And so I'm putting a lot of eggs in this basket. The other thing is I just wanted to mention Supervisor Nelson and I are participating in the elected leaders forum and that includes all eight cities as well as the county. And that is I think very significant because if you don't have all jurisdictions working together And our department has brought in Caltrans and, you know others we need to bring in the base for example.

But and San Luis County but having the different jurisdictions working together means we aren't just in a game of musical chairs because that's where we've been until now And now we're really looking at this regionally and trying to understand. We all have a role, and I've heard as much as others in North County that you know they're housing South County people up here.

So I appreciate Supervisor Lavinino mentioning that There are homeless up here and they come from these communities. And there are neighbors and friends and acquaintances. And so we do have a responsibility all of us working together and again I think that's new and that gives me a lot of hope for the future.

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction3:54:02 · ≈ 12:54 PM

Can I get a motion? Yeah, I'll make a motion to receive and file and the other staff recommended actions

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.813:54:09 · ≈ 12:54 PM

second

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:54:11 · ≈ 12:54 PM

All those in favor, please say aye. Aye.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.773:54:14 · ≈ 12:54 PM

Opposed?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:54:19 · ≈ 12:54 PM

Motion passes. Thank you so much for your work and good luck tomorrow morning. It's going to be huge.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.813:54:25 · ≈ 12:54 PM

And thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:54:26 · ≈ 12:54 PM

Diana. So we'll take D2 and then be doing the break after D2.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:54:57 · ≈ 12:54 PM

Chair Williams and members of the board, departmental item number two is from the Social Services Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding home delivery of meals to seniors disabled in Santa Barbara County.

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated3:55:17 · ≈ 12:55 PM

Okay, good afternoon Chair Williams and Supervisors. I'm Daniel Nielsen your Director of the Department of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank you very much. One of my managers Mark Contois our manager over the senior programs is going to be joining me momentarily on August 23rd of 2022 I provided a report to your board regarding the array of home-delivered meal services provided to seniors and the disabled in the county.

Following the presentation, your board asked the department to follow up with the providers to ask additional qualitative questions regarding their projected short and long term needs, and primarily what assistance providers might be seeking from the community partners as well as from the county with a focus on nonmonetary items. Just as a brief reminder before I go into the results of our additional survey, I want to remind you of the funding currently going to senior nutrition programs from various county entities.

You will recall four programs are receiving general fund grants of varying amounts through the Human Services Commission and the June 14th budget hearings. This slide reflects both the amount requested and awarded. The current grants to the Human Services Commission extend for a three-year cycle ending in fiscal year 2425. This slide reflects the amount requested and awarded through Community Development Block Grant funds in the current fiscal year, And this slide reflects the general fund contribution by the Department of Social Services to the Area Agency on Aging for the local match for their Older American Act funding. In total, the county funds contributed as reflected on this and the prior two slides is approximately $167,000.

In response to the board's request on August 23rd, the department conducted a second survey as well as multiple interviews with all current providers. The need consistently expressed by providers was for stable ongoing funding for their programs in order to remain viable. Several programs related that their organizational model relies heavily on ongoing fundraising efforts and express the need for greater county support to ensure greater predictability of their operations year-to-year.

And to be clear on this point, some of the providers expressed the need to have ongoing funding because they struggle from year-to-year to raise the money that they need. And others said if they had ongoing additional county funding it would allow them to have greater fiscal stability and be able to focus on other services that they provide without having to spend so much time fundraising.

One provider also voiced the need to access local funds for match when there are opportunities to pursue additional state, federal or other funding sources. Providers did not identify the need for additional infrastructure or any additional collaborative efforts from other community-based organizations or the county and to be clear on this point several of the providers Express that they would be willing to collaborate if some opportunity for collaboration was presented to them or some method by which that could happen.

But they didn't have anything specifically in mind, or looking for specific opportunities in that regard that they had envisioned. In addition to speaking with the providers, Mr. Contoy spoke with the food bank which currently provides support and collaboration to several programs. Two of the programs surveyed reported that the food bank currently contributes over $38,000 in food to their programs.

The Food Bank is also working on a project that's going to hopefully start in April related to food reclamation, and it's gonna be a pilot starting in April where they're hoping to serve 100 people four times a week in Carpinteria and North County. And they eventually hope to expand this to 600 people four times a week. And so, this is going to amount to getting food from various places including restaurants and repackaging it and having it be able to be delivered to provide meals to people.

As I described in my August presentation program models vary widely for both the structure and respective populations served across all of these programs. As you will recall, your board previously set aside $600,000 in ARPA money for senior nutrition assessment and gaps funding. These funds must be encumbered by December 31st 2024 and spent by December 31st 2026.

Based upon all of the information we've gathered across two surveys and multiple additional phone follow-ups with all of the providers We are recommending to your board that you consider allotting the $600,000 in two parts. By the creation of a fund which would be available for a year through March of 2024 in the amount of $75,000 to allow all providers in the community To apply for local matching funds, should they find state or federal or foundation grant opportunities that require a local match. And I think this would be a really good opportunity for us to see are those sorts of resources out there that could bolster our services in our community long term?

This is not a model that we've ever partook in, and it would be good to see can these programs get funding from the outside with the use of local matching funds. By doing it only for a year if that money isn't used, we would still have time to reallocate it to the existing senior nutrition providers. The second part would be the creation of a fund in the amount of $525,000 for existing nonprofit providers to apply for assistance with the increased costs they're experiencing associated with the COVID pandemic.

And these would be funds that would be given to them for the next two fiscal years through fiscal year 24-25. These funds would allow existing programs to identify their increased annual costs as a result of the COVID pandemic, such as serving an increased number of people, increased food costs, having to pay for labor to replace volunteers that were no longer able to work because of the pandemic and other such items.

And to apply for assistance in the amount of up to $30,000 each. The amount awarded per program would be paid out at the beginning of the 23-24 fiscal year And again, at the beginning of the next fiscal year for a total maximum award of $60,000 per organization. The specifics regarding the administration of these funds is still being determined in conversations with the CEO's office and various options are being considered.

That ends my presentation and I'm happy to take questions.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.774:02:42 · ≈ 1:02 PM

Questions from the board? Supervisor Kaps.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.894:02:48 · ≈ 1:02 PM

Yeah, thank you Director Nielsen. I appreciate this. I just want to be clear so we're these grants are awarded based on when you said because I wasn't here for the obviously for the initial distribution of funds but identifying gaps. Are you able to elaborate on what gaps you've been able to find and identify and hopefully fill?

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:03:12 · ≈ 1:03 PM

In terms of the overarching funding, yes. So from my perspective what my department has done since last spring through the course of these two surveys is to try to identify gaps, to try to identify the needs of the programs and where we've landed after a second round of surveys and interviews Is that all of the programs like the models they use to run their programs, they kind of have things working in terms of their network of volunteers or how they acquire their food which happens in a multitude of different ways.

And and they really don't perceive themselves as having gaps other than the ongoing struggle to fundraise from year to year, to raise the money necessary to serve their population. The thing that's been really good over the past six months in our surveys is that there are not existing waiting lists in these programs or if there are they only exist for like a week and then they get to them and they serve them I think it's important to note that back in the beginning of the pandemic when the board awarded $200,000 which my department took charge of administering getting out to the providers that qualified based on a criteria established by the board. There were significant waiting lists at that point so it's good Providers throughout the county are able to meet the need, but there is constant request by these programs to supervisors for assistance from year-to-year for a portion of their budget.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.894:04:48 · ≈ 1:04 PM

Thank you. I'm glad to hear that there aren't currently wait lists. That's encouraging. I know that not only do these nonprofits provide meals, hopefully they're nutritious and hopefully they're culturally appropriate but also this is often the lifeline for seniors and sometimes the only interaction that they have during the day so I know that that's like important aspect

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:05:09 · ≈ 1:05 PM

Supervisor Capps to the Chair, because of the COVID pandemic a lot of modifications to programs have occurred. First of all all the congregate meal sites went away obviously and everything switched to home delivery but one you know one of the programs right now has the meals 10 meals being delivered to the client every other week by mail And so, and other programs are still achieving the daily here's your meal sort of model. So there's a wide variety because of the COVID impact in terms of how things have evolved.

And it's really unfortunate because that person-to-person contact five days a week in what you typically think of as a meals on wheel model really is ideal because in my opinion on these programs that's more than 50% of the benefit of the program You know, I mean the food is important but

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.894:06:02 · ≈ 1:06 PM

absolutely

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:06:02 · ≈ 1:06 PM

yeah

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.894:06:03 · ≈ 1:06 PM

and the nutrition.

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:06:04 · ≈ 1:06 PM

The wellness check in the interaction is huge.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.894:06:07 · ≈ 1:06 PM

Well, I'm glad to hear this update and I'm just personally grateful to these service providers for doing this important work in providing this kind of nutrition. And to hear that the food bank is moving in the direction of reclaimed food it's so important with all the food waste that we have not just in Santa Barbara County but the national statistic is 40%. So I'm grateful to hear about this and happy to support.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed4:06:30 · ≈ 1:06 PM

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:06:30 · ≈ 1:06 PM

you. Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.814:06:35 · ≈ 1:06 PM

Thank you. I think I have three questions. The first is, are social meals congregate meals back now post-COVID?

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:06:43 · ≈ 1:06 PM

Supervisor Hartman the answer to that is no with the exception of one program that's a for profit program. Triple A, I understand from Mr. Contoy says he's been engaged with them over time. The triple A is required once the federal public health emergency gets lifted. They have a certain number of months and I can't remember if it's three or six but at that point they have to re-establish congregate sites. When I spoke to their director about six or eight weeks ago his intention was to reestablish them in exactly the same place as they had previously been which would be great if that's able to be achieved Because people are used to going to those sites, but not yet.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.814:07:27 · ≈ 1:07 PM

And then my next question has to do with the match and can you elaborate a little bit more on what we know about state and federal and foundation match programs out there?

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:07:41 · ≈ 1:07 PM

Supervisor Hartman through the chair, the only thing that we know that we learned just by our engagement with the AAA was that their director said that they had seen opportunities along the way in the recent past for additional federal funds that would be available if they had a local match. And that's the extent to what we know but we thought that would be wonderful if a few dollars on our part could bring in many more and when we thought well we should have that be available to all the programs for this trial one year period

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.814:08:10 · ≈ 1:08 PM

And I think that's terrific. And if there is a lot of demand, then my sense would be to up the 75 and I wonder if there is flexibility if we did see a lot of demand?

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:08:24 · ≈ 1:08 PM

That's a challenge was trying to figure out how to allocate the $600,000 and in a meaningful way in terms of having an a meaningful amount to the programs for their current ongoing operation costs over the next couple of years. We could certainly I mean we can do whatever you know we could have Programs for their increased COVID costs be just for a year $30,000 max each that would give us a large amount of money to additionally pump into the grant match.

If if that came to fruition we have a little bit of time to play with in terms of how you know how soon this money has to be allocated and spent but we would definitely not want by a year from now we would definitely want to know all the pots that we were having the money go into yeah right

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.814:09:19 · ≈ 1:09 PM

Well, I'd be interested in hearing more about that and maybe you know maybe a hundred five hundred or maybe we keep flexibility. Again if matches are a real option out there then I think it's a great opportunity to bring more money to the county

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:09:37 · ≈ 1:09 PM

So Supervisor Hartman, an idea would be that we could do the award by program for the next fiscal year up to $30,000 per program for increased COVID costs and then hold the rest of the money in reserve for the match. And then a year from now if that money wasn't being utilized, then really allocate what was left for the next fiscal year for those programs that would certainly be doable as well.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.814:10:04 · ≈ 1:10 PM

Thank you for thinking on your feet. I have one more, and that is how many County agencies? We've got the Human Resources Commission that has a grant program. What other sources of county funding do we have for senior meals programs?

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:10:23 · ≈ 1:10 PM

So Supervisor Hartman through the Chair, that goes back to our So we have the CDBG funds. These are, so the first one was the Human Service Commission. This chart is the CDBG funds which was a total award of $15,947 in the current year and then the $50,000 County General Fund that flows through my department to the AAA Which is a match that the AAA must collect related to drawing down their federal money in general. They collect an amount from San Luis Obispo County as well for that match for that county.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.814:11:03 · ≈ 1:11 PM

So my question has to do with, I mean anything we can do to reduce the administrative burden on the meal providers I think would be much appreciated. They've got to spend a lot of time writing grants and applying for funding and if we could They're a very limited number. We know them, they are of high quality. So I just wonder if there's any way to routinize and make easier the allocation of funding so that it's not this constant at least with the county applying for grants? Any way to consolidate the funds and allocate them without all the overhead?

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:11:44 · ≈ 1:11 PM

Supervisor Hartman through the chair, that would be our intention because it's ARPA funding. I've already had a few conversations with Assistant CEO Nancy Anderson and Terry and I have had multiple conversations and it's certainly our intention if your board decides to allocate these funds In whatever way you decide that the method for accessing them and then for the subsequent documentation, for how those were used would be as minimal as possible but within what's needed to survive audits related to the ARPA funding.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.814:12:19 · ≈ 1:12 PM

That's the ARPA money, but I'm talking about other county money and whether going forward we could use this opportunity to think about going forward and making it easier for the organizations to access those funds.

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:12:35 · ≈ 1:12 PM

So I will say to you for the $50,000 that goes to the AAA there's no process. We have a conversation with them every two or three years about what that amount needs to be for their match and we requested in our budget and it happens. I can't speak to the specifics for the CDBG or the Human Service Commission in terms of if there's opportunities there to alter those application processes

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.814:13:02 · ≈ 1:13 PM

It's a question I'd like further information about going forward.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:13:09 · ≈ 1:13 PM

Thank you, Supervisor Harmon. Supervisor Lavigneer? Thank you

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.844:13:14 · ≈ 1:13 PM

so I'm trying to figure out okay so if we did this and we say yeah we're gonna use these six hundred thousand of ARPA Would then your department make that allocation or is it still something that comes to the budget and we hear from seven different providers? No.

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:13:30 · ≈ 1:13 PM

So the intention, so your board's already set aside this money and we're still working on figuring out what exact mechanism would be used to distribute it. Right. But if you were to say we want $300,000 to go for funding for the next fiscal year with a maximum grant of $30,000 each And then whichever entity within the county government that we decide is actually going to administer this would figure out the form that the program fills out and it would be an award.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.844:14:00 · ≈ 1:14 PM

Okay, the only thing I'm worried about and I like this idea, I think this makes sense is these eight or nine agencies out there You're going to have to realize this is a two year program because ARPA money is gonna go away. And I don't want folks to ramp up and do a lot of things that are gonna be unsustainable, because we're not gonna be able to allocate $300,000 a year for this. This is kind of a one shot in the arm infusion.

I think it's a great idea and I like the idea of matching funds and those types of things but Just a little warning to folks that might be applying for this money, that this is not going to be an ongoing.

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:14:45 · ≈ 1:14 PM

And right and Supervisor Lavarino through the chair we've been we've had multiple conversations about options for this money and where we landed was specifically for that purposes it is ARPA money. It's one time and by having it be having them apply for it to cover their increased costs related to COVID it's very situation specific as well as time specific

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CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction4:15:11 · ≈ 1:15 PM

Thank you, Chair Williams. I really like the idea of matching funds being set aside. My only curiosity is we saw that there's a wide range of cost per meals per program and how are we addressing that? Because I'm sure the cost went up for those charged to have higher expense so it seems like there's some disincentive Groups that have been lean and mean, and have kept their costs down. That they may not be as eligible for these funds. And so that's my concern going into this is that somehow we will... I'm not saying anybody's doing the wrong thing but that we won't be rewarding everybody equally in part because of the way that they've built up their cost structure meal delivery.

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:15:50 · ≈ 1:15 PM

Right. Supervisor Nelson through the Chair you're absolutely right. I think the current range of cost per meal ranges from like $13.50 a meal to $14.50 So it's huge depending upon whether they're making. Can you say that again? I'm sorry, I meant $3.50. I had the three in my head. $3 50 a meal to $14 50 a meal. I'm sorry, I apologize. And, and that's an issue that we've looked at the entire time we've been looking at senior meal programs is they have all these different models they have different costs. When we were looking at the option of using this money to like pay each program a certain amount per meal for a period of time.

That was a concern that came up and so there's just no way of solving for that. I think this plan of having them apply related to their increased costs kind of tends to keep it to a little more of a ratio of what it was before and what it is now But it still doesn't fully address the issue of the model they're choosing to use. But I must say in some situations, you know in some of the programs it's it's the model that they have to use based upon limitations they have with staffing levels or volunteer levels or things like that so but yeah I've always felt like there was a great opportunity if somebody wanted to look at all cause suggestions to happen for programmatic changes.

There shouldn't be that wide of a range on the cost per meal, but it is.

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction4:17:32 · ≈ 1:17 PM

I could continue on that. That's where I thought this money was going towards is infrastructure so that we can do more with some of these programs as well and then also identifying what is the true need because you know some of these programs do income verification, some don't There's a lack of incentive there. And so that's what I was hoping, not only just physical infrastructure that we would put in place through this process, some planning infrastructure so that we could have some thresholds that we know where are the programs that we should be investing in that will actually meet the safety net level that we need to accomplish in our county versus some of those that are just receiving meals that probably have means or probably going to be personally subsidizing some of those meals themselves but they like the convenience and I know I know we're still trying to get our arms around it.

So I'm going to be fine with where the board goes on this direction, on this item but I still think that we should be investing a little bit more into kind of cracking that nut.

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:18:35 · ≈ 1:18 PM

Supervisor Nelson to the chair. I feel like through our two surveys we've tried to crack the nut of gaps, tried to crack the nut of opportunities And I've had a conversation with several people in the past few weeks that if this dollar amount was larger or if we were intending on having a larger investment long term, then we're positioning ourselves to be able to cause change or to influence change in a meaningful way on some things that we think would make the overall structure better countywide.

But there's over $3 million a year going into these programs from different foundations and cities and counties. And so our $167,000 that's currently being invested isn't really very good in terms of leverage. And I don't perceive the 600,000 we have in the ARPA money to be significant enough to do that sort of because it would have Coming up with a model change now, but then having the incentives for the programs to adopt the model change which is only going to happen with longer term. More significant financial presence

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction4:19:52 · ≈ 1:19 PM

because the resistance is a lot of them don't want to do surveys within their own clientele. Is that the?

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:19:57 · ≈ 1:19 PM

No, so the AAA is required by federal law of who they serve and how they serve. And which is why after the Federal Health Emergency is lifted they're going to have to go back to offering congregate meals because they're not going to be able to do the home-delivered meals unless people Meet criteria, but you're right. The other programs have varying rules that they operate by in terms of the criteria for home delivered meal.

Some basically ask for a certain dollar amount others have suggested donation all of them provide meals if the person can't pay. But they all operate with different rules. And when we did the $200,000 back at the beginning of the pandemic, we required that they be 60 or older in a home with nobody else to assist them with their food and that they'd be low income.

And we had a, but we only have four programs out of all the programs at that time that used our money. Because the rest of the programs did not collect that data to be able to attest to the fact that these were who they were serving more low income. Right, so. So it wasn't an incentive

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction4:21:04 · ≈ 1:21 PM

enough to access those funds?

PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:21:06 · ≈ 1:21 PM

Well they didn't have the historic information at that moment in time to be able to say you know we're serving these low-income people and it was at that point it was $200,000 that we gave to them over the course of two months.

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction4:21:17 · ≈ 1:21 PM

So I think the message is you know I know we're looking to move forward with these ARPA funds towards these uses But there are these senior meal programs that will continue to come to the county and say, hey, we want you guys to do more. Right? So I hope the message may be my or could be from this board is like if you hope in the future to access those funds from us, if those funds have become available, that it'd be something where retract, you know, those numbers and that we can make sure that those numbers are available so that we can make good decisions up here on allocating those precious few resources.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:21:52 · ≈ 1:21 PM

One suggestion maybe to meet the intent in a way that doesn't create more sort of hurdles is, I mean we could always award it on a per meal basis at whatever funding instead of looking at asking everybody how much money do you need and then giving them some percentage of what money they need I think it would be helpful if we could say hey, we will allocate this money X number of dollars per meal until it runs out.

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PresenterDaniel NielsenDepartment of Social Services and only the Department of Social Services thank yProposedself-stated4:22:37 · ≈ 1:22 PM

Assume that every program had detailed records related to the meals they served, how many clients they served as well as how many meals to each of those clients. And that's not an assumption I would be willing to make at this point. Got it okay. So based upon the conversation we've had, I would amend our recommendation to dividing it into two pots. $300,000 for grants to the programs for the coming fiscal year which would be they would figure out the application method and it would simply be grants related to increased COVID costs and then the other 300,000 for matching funds That we will revisit a year from now, and I'll bring back to your board or somebody will bring back to your board the amount that's still left in that pot.

If there is money left for reallocation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:23:31 · ≈ 1:23 PM

Think that's good? I mean, I definitely think the match at least puts an incentive for some efficiency. Public comment.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:23:43 · ≈ 1:23 PM

Chair Williams and members of the Board, we have no request to speak on this item

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:23:48 · ≈ 1:23 PM

And then can I get a motion?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.814:23:58 · ≈ 1:23 PM

I will move Director Nielsen's recommendation, but I also again would like at this opportunity to look at the county money In not ARPA money, but how we what what's that amount total from those three sources? The triple A money is already allocated. OK, Mr. Chapchin, help.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed4:24:22 · ≈ 1:24 PM

Supervisor Hartman through the chair, the CBG money and the Human Services Commission money, of course it's policy issue. It's a finite amount of money that's divided in the community. So if the board does say set aside this amount, we can certainly do that for senior meal programs

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.814:24:36 · ≈ 1:24 PM

And we typically do already, right? A certain amount goes and then there's a lot of uncertainty in the various

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed4:24:45 · ≈ 1:24 PM

organizations. 50% of the CDBG money is for public service. The rest is for capital projects so it's a public service money is a lot less than the capital projects

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.814:24:55 · ≈ 1:24 PM

Could you look historically and give us, for CDBG and also for the Human Resources what historically we have allocated to senior meals? Absolutely. And then perhaps we could decide that percentage would be something we would do in the future. Again it's a lot of effort to write the grant applications. It's a lot of anxiety about whether we'll get it or not. Anything we can do If we don't have a lot of money, the money we have if we can get it efficiently to those organizations We know are serving the clientele that were responsible for in part

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed4:25:33 · ≈ 1:25 PM

It is, but it's also federal money except for the Human Services Commission money. That's general fund money. But we did something like that with in District 2 with the community clinic. You know, we set aside money. The board did ask us to set aside money in next budget year for that so there's a precedent. So we have done that but we'll see what we can do under federal law with the Human Services Commission. We can take that back to the commission as well and discuss

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:25:58 · ≈ 1:25 PM

Mr. Chairman, excuse me when do you come back to the board with the Human Service Commission recommendations for funding?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed4:26:05 · ≈ 1:26 PM

Well that's usually a three-year process and we just came to you I think within the past six months or nine months I think so but we can always open up a process and staff is willing to do that just as long it's not too onerous but for that money that money is already committed for three years

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.814:26:21 · ≈ 1:26 PM

Okay so my motion is Director Nielsen's recommendation for the ARPA money and then direction to explore this other and come back to us at the appropriate time. Sure I'll second

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:26:35 · ≈ 1:26 PM

Comments on them on the motion with that all those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed?

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.774:26:44 · ≈ 1:26 PM

Thank you very much

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:26:46 · ≈ 1:26 PM

We will adjourn for closed session. County Council, why don't you give us a preview of what's in closed session?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 27Proposed4:26:55 · ≈ 1:26 PM

Thank you Mr. Chair. The board is scheduled to meet in closed session on two items of existing litigation. Suzanne Duca versus County of Santa Barbara that's the Santa Barbara County Superior Court case and the second is Christopher Anderson versus County of Santa Barbara and that's also a Santa Barbara Superior Court case. I had originally estimated an hour But depending and I think we might be able to do it and come back by 215.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.774:27:22 · ≈ 1:27 PM

Let's try to do that.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:19:14 · ≈ 2:19 PM

We are reconvening the meeting from closed session. Will County Council please report out from closed session?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 27Proposed5:19:23 · ≈ 2:19 PM

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The board met in closed session on two items of existing litigation, Duca versus County of Santa Barbara and Anderson versus County of Santa Barbara. They're both Santa Barbara Superior Court cases and the board took no reportable action.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:19:37 · ≈ 2:19 PM

Then let's go to departmental item number three.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:19:43 · ≈ 2:19 PM

Chair Williams and members of the board, departmental item number three is from the county executive office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Santa Barbara County broadband strategic plan.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 28Proposed5:19:59 · ≈ 2:19 PM

Good afternoon, Chair Williams and members of the board. Jasmine McGinty with the County Executive Office. Today we are here to present to you the final broadband strategic plan that the county participated in in coordination with the Broadband Consortium of the Pacific Coast and SBCAG. So today we're asking your board to receive and file a presentation on the Santa Barbara County broadband strategic plan. So I'm just going to briefly introduce the project and turn it over to Maria Kelly with the Broadband Consortium, um, to talk about the findings that we found over the past year in convening the analysis. So first of all, I would like to thank the Board of Supervisors for your contribution towards the development of the strategic plan. Back in October 2021, your board allocated $200,000 of ARPA funding that went towards the development of the strategic planning process.

Prior to that in September 2021 staff brought forth a proposal for the county to participate in a long-term strategic planning process This proposal was developed in coordination with the Broadband Consortium of the Central Coast, REACH, Econ Alliance as well as local jurisdictions. So work commenced on the plan after $200,000 was allocated and work commenced from January through November of 2022 and the final plan was approved by the SBCAG Board in December 2022.

SBCAG is also here to help present and they're going to talk about next steps in terms of the project, including a local assistance technical, excuse me, a local agency technical assistance grant that the county will be applying for. So I would like to thank before we get into the details of the plan, I would like to thank Maria Cowley and Bill Simmons with the Broadband Consortium for all their work on the plan as well as Mike Becker from SBCAG who was very involved in the project. So with that, I will turn it over to Maria Kelly who is going to go over the highlights of the plan as well as findings that we found.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 29Proposed5:22:04 · ≈ 2:22 PM

Hello board and thank you for having us here again today for many of you this is a third time hearing about this plan and again Thank you to many of you for participating in the very robust process and community engagement next slide please So some of this again you've seen, this is a recap. Some of it's just a recap there's a little bit of new information but we want to make sure that we're sharing with you everything that we've shared with every community within Santa Barbara County. We have been to every city council and SBCAG and you are our final presentation wrap so here's some of the items that will touch on next slide please So again, we align with state and federal efforts. Those efforts are still ongoing with some of the federal funding continuing to be pushed and identified until later now this summer but again we're still on track as far as you know what information needed.

The open access GIS tool development it is one of our recommendations that the county and SBCAD continue to utilize that tool that was developed We understand what's happening in each of the communities throughout the county. And at the end of the day, the data did tell us that ultimately the community members want reliable broadband. Affordability comes in as a high piece of that but reliability is significant to business owners, schools and households.

And then Santa Barbara County really is broadband ready with these baseline metrics and have a lot of great work to build off of. Next slide please. So this is the countywide speed testing map. When we presented to the cities, each one was really broken down and some of these dots are kind of large. We've overlaid the speed testing to the old CPUC map. There is a new CPUC map and we are working on updating that and will be sharing that in the coming month or so. CPUC did just release their updated map on priority areas two weeks ago.

Regardless, we can still see that most of these areas where we've identified there are opportunities to improve broadband access. And that's mostly what this tells us but what we were able to look at was really targeting the future so the past minimum speed counting as served was 25 down and three up That was the previous and moving forward, the state and the feds are looking at a minimum of 100 download and 20 upload. So moving forward, the data collected will be presented in that fashion.

What's most important about this is that we're going to be in an ongoing data collection process. This is important even as recently as the FCC maps challenges. We could use some of this data to challenge some of the current FCC mapping. So this is an ongoing process that the BCPC will be continuing. Next slide please. So recommended actions for Santa Barbara County again, you have seen some of this but this is very specific to what actions for the county specifically county staff engagement and asking for some.

I think importantly under the organizing is maintaining that asset inventory. Again, that goes back to the GIS policy or the GIS planning tool looking at some policies specifically around dig once and then looking at conduit feasibility. Dig once really is a policy that's driven by the decision makers and we've made that recommendation for each of the communities that does not have a dig once policy yet.

And then jumping down to participating in the countywide JPA, Fred will be touching on that a little bit. It is really important to continue the regional planning so encourage the county to take that on as a consider that as a priority and have SBCAD continue to coordinate for the region. You can read these on your own and I'm happy to answer any questions as they may come up, but I'll go down to the redundancy and resiliency planning. And that final one is prioritize infrastructure planning and policies to reduce that barrier to deployment to find those partners within the telecommunications and within other communities to make sure that the middle mile And actually, more importantly in my opinion that last mile and really reaching the underserved and unserved based on some of those new speed testing.

And as we get more data and understand the needs of some of our community members whether it's affordability and adoption issues or access. Next slide please. So recommended regional actions. This is not a new slide you have seen this, you've seen this slide several times it hasn't changed but again completing the strategy moving forward making sure that you know under what we're really looking at right now is that in column one under organizing working on that ladder funding which Fred will touch on and then develop that JPA programmatic EIR The JPA and the programmatic EIR, and ensure that there's policy alignment at a regional level. That's what's going to get us to deployment the fastest. Again keeping in mind that we're looking at 5-10 years this project is a baseline for long term work efforts.

This infrastructure takes a long time to plan for and deploy. And next slide please. So for Q1 for 2023, I know this is just a receiving file but consider in the future having this board go ahead and adopt some of the recommendations once you've identified the priorities and approach. And ask that you support the regional model of the broadband JPA that really does align with RCRC work and some of the middle mile Golden State Connect Authority work and that would be a huge Asset regionally to follow along that work effort.

And we already know that you have great county staff participation, so continuing to allow that and support that in Q2 looking at some feasibility around policy recommendations again this is still going to be some exploratory staff and then look at the last mile selection priority areas it relates to CPUC and again some of the CP that new updated CPUC mapping will help identify where some of those last mile priorities are. And really important is continuing that engagement with the telecommunications, having staff engage as these CAG engage with what the telecommunications we've identified who's the primary service provider and who is doing work where it's going to be important that those conversations continue again through the end of the year I want to highlight one that's unique is that determine the feasibility of working with the CSDs The community services districts.

There's several, there's many in the unincorporated areas obviously and the underserved areas. And looking at the opportunities where they might be able to co-locate facilities as broadband is expanded. It hasn't been, the CSDs have not necessarily been identified as high priority partners but in the case of reaching some of these underserved areas they're a natural fit. They understand who's out there, they understand what the connections are typically with sewer and water connections so it's going to be important to continue those conversations.

And those are my next steps and I'm happy to answer any questions after Fred presents on this final slide.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 30Proposed5:29:20 · ≈ 2:29 PM

All right, giving me some strange looks yes I find myself here presenting on broadband. I'm not lost to Supervisor Lavanino. So thank you, Chair Williams and board members. Yeah it's great to be here to present kind of as we transition from the broadband planning to implementation and at SBKG and what role we would play going forward but first of all you know as it was echoed before I want to thank the entire team particularly Mike Becker on SBKG staff as we transitioned I'm going to be the point person at SBK for implementation and look forward to it.

So now the effort in the region looks for how we transition to that implementation, and one of really the first markers is where you know getting the funding for them. The board this morning did approve the resubmittal of a ladder grant to the California Public Utilities Commission. And so that's an important first step in order to plan out what Maria just indicated were some of the key things we need to work on over the next few years.

The application I understand would be submitted within a short time frame and then the idea would be that maybe within a month or so, the Public Utilities Commission would be hearing that for approval. And then that will set the stage for being able to move forward with some of those early implementation efforts like Maria outlined Which include developing the scope, looking at those priority areas, the environmental document, the programmatic EIR and that being said. And then working on the joint powers authority for the region to maintain that kind of regional perspective for implementation.

So just wanted to introduce myself in this capacity, but I'm happy to answer any questions. And but Marie is the expert, so she probably has most of the answers. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:31:27 · ≈ 2:31 PM

Questions for the board? Supervisor Harp.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.815:31:34 · ≈ 2:31 PM

I think this question may be more for the county. I understand the regional approach, but how will the county be working to develop its policies? Do we have a dig once? What's our plan for doing our internal work that is in alignment with this work?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 28Proposed5:31:58 · ≈ 2:31 PM

So that's a great question. Thank you, Supervisor Hartman and we are going to be working moving forward with our Chief Information Officer Chris Churwin on all the technical sides of things so we will definitely get with him and his team to see what our approach is and next steps moving forward for policy development

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.775:32:18 · ≈ 2:32 PM

A supervisor caps.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.895:32:19 · ≈ 2:32 PM

Thank you, I just had a question about the time sequence is this? This is now starting. Is that correct in this past year because I just the nature of my question is all that we learned during pandemic and shutdown and the impact of lack of access and poverty and kids etc so I'm just curious what lessons are we incorporating that into this project or did this start prior or where are we with that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 29Proposed5:32:42 · ≈ 2:32 PM

Yeah, my apologies. So the timeline of this project we did start the data collection in the process in January of 2022 and then the project really wrapped up. The data collection wrapped up in July August of this past year so yes part of the driving this project was driven by the fact that the state was investing funding on SB 156 and it really was a response to COVID. So yes, this is a lot of those considerations have been made through the process. Thanks for that context thanks.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:33:12 · ≈ 2:33 PM

So I just add to that, that there are elements of the county that was involved even before Supervisor Hartman brought up this idea. And I participate in the Latino Caucus of California Counties and we were lobbying for the state funding on the original. You know so that lobbying that took place even before it was approved came out of some of those lessons learned from the pandemic.

I just do have a question for Doug. Why MPOs were specifically exempted from funding? And does anybody know what the CPUC's logic on that, like we have to form another layer of government. We can't use an existing one.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 29Proposed5:34:02 · ≈ 2:34 PM

It was a really interesting because Council of Governments were allowed and MPOs were not so some Council of Governments are not MPOs and there was this nuanced language and when we originally approached the CPUC about the application We said, well we're on MPO and a COG and staff was under the impression. Let's go ahead and give it a shot. There will be work efforts moving forward because the CPUC as well as the decision makers have been shared that this is a very nuance that's created a barrier Because regional planning and especially broadband should be regional planning, and therefore excluding MPOs that are COGs and COGs that are MPOs really doesn't make sense. So if they're able to make that change in the coming year or two, that would be great.

But we have seen a couple... This is not the only county that ran into this. And so COGs have been awarded LATA funding and MPOs have not. Anybody that was both was removed from original application, so they're aware that it's an issue. It took a long time for attorneys to review it and the ultimate decision was no but we didn't find that out until November.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 30Proposed5:35:18 · ≈ 2:35 PM

Yeah, thank you Maria. So great question that was part of my some of my remarks but I understand there was earlier action by the Board of Supervisors on the grant itself today so SBK has investigated this with our lobbyist in Sacramento and so it looks like we're gonna try to introduce some legislative changes perhaps or at least seek that Probably early next year and get through this grant cycle, and that's something we can look at so.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:35:53 · ≈ 2:35 PM

Any other questions? We have public comment.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:35:58 · ≈ 2:35 PM

Chair Williams and members of the board, we do have two requests to speak on this item will begin with Eleanor Gartner here in Santa

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:36:05 · ≈ 2:36 PM

Maria. Hermione Granger raising her hand really higher up there back.

CommentEleanor GartnerProposedself-stated5:36:11 · ≈ 2:36 PM

Excited to be with you all. Hi, everyone. I'm Eleanor Gartner with Cox Communications and we're very excited about this plan and commend the county's focus on broadband. As you probably know, Cox serves South Santa Barbara County from Carpinteria to Goleta and one of our primary focuses is on adoption in digital literacy. Everyone in our footprint has access to up to 1 gig speeds for residential services and up to 10 gigs and beyond for business services.

We're committed to continuous investment in our network to meet our customers' current and future technology needs. We've invested more than $60 million in our local fiber-based network over the past three years, and we're accelerating that investment with another $60 million over the next three years to deploy technology on our road to 10 gig residential services.

One note in the study, the maps are sourced from the CPUC and don't always paint an accurate picture or an outdated picture of coverage. We'd be happy to review specific areas with you if there are questions. And if you have constituents who for some reason can't get access to our services please reach out to us so that we can resolve. We love to partner with the county and cities in our footprint on the proposals in the broadband plan Cox has a long history of being a leader in broadband adoption and affordability programs. Our national Connect2Compete program for families with school-aged kids started right here in Santa Barbara County with our collaboration with the county education office in 1999.

Today, households who qualify for low income programs can get free internet by combining Cox's affordability programs Connect2Compete and ConnectAssist with the federal government's affordable connectivity program monthly subsidy. Customers need to sign up for the ACP separately, and the process can be a little confusing and cumbersome. We've hosted numerous sign-up and educational events with school districts and nonprofit partners like Partners in Education, The Boys & Girls Club, Girls Inc., Public Libraries, to help guide people through this process.

And we're sharing tips with households to get the most out of their home networks as well as provide resources to our free digital literacy trainings. But there's more that we can all do here to help get these resources out to community members who need them. We'd love the county's collaboration on this, and we're excited to work together on ways to ensure that every household who qualifies for a low-income program can do so.

Thank you to those of you who have already gotten the word out about our own programs and the ACP subsidy. There are also opportunities to partner together on community wifi, to provide services to underserved populations as well as smart city solutions which can be revenue generators for local cities. We're eager to collaborate to make Santa Barbara County more connected and bridge the digital divide together. Thank you very much for your time.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:39:07 · ≈ 2:39 PM

Thank you. Chair Williams and members of the board that is our final request to speak on this item.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:39:14 · ≈ 2:39 PM

Can I get a motion? There is just receive and file. Motion to receive and

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction5:39:22 · ≈ 2:39 PM

file. Second.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:39:26 · ≈ 2:39 PM

All those in favor please say aye.

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction5:39:28 · ≈ 2:39 PM

Aye.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.775:39:29 · ≈ 2:39 PM

Opposed? Motion carries. D4

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:39:43 · ≈ 2:39 PM

Chair Williams and members of the board, departmental item number four is from the Planning and Development Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Historic Landmarks Advisory Commission's designation of Rocky Nook Park as a county historic landmark. This item is located within the First District.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed5:40:47 · ≈ 2:40 PM

Good afternoon members of the board, Mr. Chair. Today we have an item before you it is a recommended designation of Rocky Nook Park which is a park in the first district and the Historic Landmarks Advisory Committee or Commission made a recommendation to Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the Board of Supervisors. Thank you very much for this historic landmark designation and that happened on November 14th of this year and it is planning and development's responsibility to forward those recommendations to the board.

Today we have Joe Dargol, Supervising Planner, and Kevin De Los Santos who is the planner that is going to make the presentation today There

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CommentKevin De Los SantosProposedself-stated5:41:42 · ≈ 2:41 PM

we go, sorry. Good afternoon Mr Chair and Supervisors my name is Kevin De Los Santos I'm the assigned planner for the designation of Rocky Nook Park as a County Historic Landmark. Rocky Nook Park is located at 610 Mission Canyon Road in the Mission Canyon neighborhood located just north of the City of Santa Barbara. Displayed on the screen is the property boundaries of the park Rocky Nook Park was initially nominated for historic landmark status by Francesca Galt, a member of the public in 2016.

At the time, the Historic Landmarks Advisory did not take formal action on the nomination. In 2022, the chair of HLAC Initiating nomination of Rocky Nook Park for designation of a landmark. HVAC finds that Rocky Nook Park is historically significant because it exemplifies and reflects special elements of the county's cultural, social, aesthetic and natural history.

It is identified with persons and events significant in local state or national history. The site's settlement by the Olivers in 1881 reflects a wave of affluent Easterners who came to Santa Barbara County in the late 1800s. It is a geographically definable area possessing a concentration of historic, prehistoric, archeological and scenic properties. On November 14th, 2022, HLAC considered the documentation provided by Ms. Galt regarding the property's historical significance and adopted the resolution.

Section 18A-5 of the County Code grants the Board of Supervisors discretion to approve, modify or disapprove the designation. The Community Services District Department Parks Division and Public Works Department Transportation Division both do not support the designation as currently drafted. Parks Division believes the designation would constrain their ability to provide maintenance to public hiking trails, restrooms, popular group picnic areas and several small barbecue areas.

Similarly Public Works does not support the designation as proposed however they would support the designation if elements adjacent to or along Mission Canyon Road corridor that are impacted by maintenance capital improvement or safety projects are exempt from the conditions of the resolution The Board of Supervisors can take the following potential actions on the items before them today.

Approve the designation and adopt a resolution, modify the designation and subsequently adopt a modified resolution or disapprove the designation. This concludes my presentation I'm available to answer any questions thank you.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.775:44:28 · ≈ 2:44 PM

Questions from the board? I will go to

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.845:44:35 · ≈ 2:44 PM

a question. Sure, Supervisor Lavinia. I want to hear from Public Works more about what exactly the hesitancy is and how it impacts them and how.

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CommentPublic WorksProposed5:44:54 · ≈ 2:44 PM

Good afternoon Chair and Supervisor Lavinia. Chris Len County Public Works. So what we find in these kind of situations is that these types of designations impact our ability to perform exactly the functions you see there. And over the years, our stance has just been a hard no but in this instance, we worked with the subcommittee to try and come up with a compromise where we could include language that would protect our ability to perform the county mandate and function And that's the language that originally went to the HLAC that we were comfortable with.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:45:32 · ≈ 2:45 PM

And Supervisor Labadino, you know, the language that originally went to the HLAC that was put in a motion at the HLAC but failed on a 4-4 vote included this language elements adjacent to your that Elements adjacent to or along Mission Canyon Road corridor that are impacted by maintenance, capital improvement or safety projects will be exempted from the designation.

So help me understand better. And that language is in the board level letter on

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.845:46:09 · ≈ 2:46 PM

page four. So I went to take a look at it and it seems like the concern might be the actual road in front of, what's the name of that? You know that area very well, Michigan Canyon Road. Okay so does do we have any desire? Is that what this is all about? I'm trying to figure out what the battle is about Because I haven't got into the, you know. I'm watching it from 30,000 feet and I'm like all right yes the park looks like it's historical and we would like to do this but there's got to be an underlying battle that I'm unaware of that... I'm getting a lot of blank stares so maybe there's not or nobody wants to talk about it and I'll listen to public comment and then we can go from there

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:46:59 · ≈ 2:46 PM

You know, I think some of it will be revealed a little bit more through public comment. But yeah, I suppose you know, I mean the first thing is that I could just do X, I'll lead X party communications disclosure by saying that I met with both A number of advocates that are supportive of it, including both the HLAC members and the activists that originally proposed the designation.

And I met with a local neighborhood group that was opposed to the designation. So what I could at least Tell you that is that I asked the question. Of the advocates, you know, is this about trying to defeat the road project? That never happened and they said absolutely not we want a historical designation because we love Rocky Park and II. You know. If so, the outstanding question in my mind is why not then approve the previous resolution that failed on a 4-4 vote at HLAC. So I guess that's one of the real...

To me, that's the meat of the question for the day. Supervisor

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.815:48:33 · ≈ 2:48 PM

Hartman? I think Supervisor Labadino did you have a follow up

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.845:48:40 · ≈ 2:48 PM

No, I was just going to get my expertise

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.815:48:41 · ≈ 2:48 PM

so. I would like to know more about what an HLAC designation requires it doesn't stop projects it just requires a little more consultation with HLAAC is that not correct? And how is routine maintenance generally regarded when there is a historic designation?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 32Proposed5:49:06 · ≈ 2:49 PM

Mr. Chair and Supervisors, when a location has a designation it does require review by the HLAC and so that designation has different conditions and so in this resolution it includes draft conditions and so it would have to go through and have review for any new development on the property.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.815:49:29 · ≈ 2:49 PM

Right what about routine maintenance?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 32Proposed5:49:33 · ≈ 2:49 PM

It does describe routine maintenance and so there are provisions within that. I'd have to look closely at each one, there's a site plan and different areas of the site that are designated as exempt from those conditions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed5:49:46 · ≈ 2:49 PM

Mr Chair, Supervisor Hartman we have Mr Jeff Lindgren on Zoom and he might be able to answer that question.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 27Proposed5:49:57 · ≈ 2:49 PM

Mr. Chair and members of the board, I did want to just point out so as a general rule normal maintenance and repair is accepted from what needs to go back to the HLAC. And then the way that it works similar to has been described there's certain items that are done that need express consent of the HLAC. There's certain items that are exempt certain items that may need approval. That approval could be appealable to your board So part of the. Thank

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.815:50:27 · ≈ 2:50 PM

you, that's exactly what I wanted

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 27Proposed5:50:30 · ≈ 2:50 PM

and part of the decision is for your board. You have discretion, you can. Approve the designation not approve. You can modify so part of what is before you is do are you liking these conditions? If you want to approve it or do you want to modify them further?

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.775:50:52 · ≈ 2:50 PM

Yeah, I still want everyone to do X party.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.815:50:54 · ≈ 2:50 PM

Mr. Lindgren is on Zoom and could respond

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:50:58 · ≈ 2:50 PM

at some point.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:51:02 · ≈ 2:51 PM

We're having problems getting a hold of him so if you could.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:51:05 · ≈ 2:51 PM

So maybe I could elucidate just that I asked both Parks and And Public Works for a language that would essentially protect their ability to do what are existing uses. And so I mean, I do have language to that effect. The Public Works one is really straightforward. It's the same language that it's always been. The parks language is that the exemptions would be Existing elements of the park used by the public for passive recreation, which are those non-motorized leisure activities or non team sports that are dependent on the natural landscape in which the activity occurs.

That are impacted by maintenance capital improvement or safety projects for passive recreation. The administration building and parking areas for the administration building and the internal roadway and parking areas for public access. So essentially what the designation would Require an extra hurdle for would be some new kind of use in the park. And if we adopted the parks language and that public works thing

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:52:27 · ≈ 2:52 PM

and chair, although you are, you articulated that Mr. Long were just did get on if you want him OK

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:52:32 · ≈ 2:52 PM

Jeff I was I was filling in for you buddy. But if you wanna elaborate. Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 33Proposed5:52:39 · ≈ 2:52 PM

you so much. Chair Williams board members. Yes, kind of at the heart of this matter is that Rockingham Park is a well-loved and heavily used public park for passive recreation. So I think that a path forward could possibly be to exempt activities that support passive recreation in the park as we all know it today so that would be maintenance And operational uses and, you know what we would consider minor capital improvements.

So I think that's one way we can structure An exemption that would look similar to what Public Works had proposed for ongoing maintenance and operations of the parks.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:54:06 · ≈ 2:54 PM

Okay, now are we ready for ex parte communications? Who wants to go second? I'm

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.895:54:16 · ≈ 2:54 PM

happy

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:54:16 · ≈ 2:54 PM

to you. You know nothing

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.895:54:19 · ≈ 2:54 PM

about

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:54:19 · ≈ 2:54 PM

this

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.895:54:19 · ≈ 2:54 PM

part

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:54:21 · ≈ 2:54 PM

of the street, right?

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.895:54:23 · ≈ 2:54 PM

These two. Yep. So I had ex parte meetings with Keith Kaufman Gray, with Darian Bleacher, with Fran Galt and with Mr. Lanny Akenstein all in favor of designation.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.845:54:38 · ≈ 2:54 PM

Mr. Labneel, I had a Zoom with Lenny Ebenstein and Fred Galt and visited the park while they were talking to me about the park. Supervisor

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction5:54:49 · ≈ 2:54 PM

Nelson? Yes, I had the same meeting with Lenny Ebenstein and Fred Galt as well as I talked to my HLAC Commissioner Rob Knight about the revoke.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.815:55:01 · ≈ 2:55 PM

And I talked to my HLAC Commissioner Lansing Duncan at length and exchanged some emails with him as well as meeting with Lenny Ebenstein and team on Zoom.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:55:15 · ≈ 2:55 PM

And I should be more precise with my ones. It was a little too general. Yesterday, I met with Carl Hutterer and Mission Canyon Heritage Trail Association members and I also met with Keith Coffin Gray and my delegate Sheila Snow about the designation. In the previous week, let's see if I have a complete list of it I do not, but with the activists and in support of the designation.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.775:56:00 · ≈ 2:56 PM

OK, go to public comment now.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:56:05 · ≈ 2:56 PM

We'll begin with Keith Kaufman Gray to be followed by Ronald Nye

PresenterKeith Kaufman Graydetails of the board supervisor's letter that yoProposedself-stated5:56:14 · ≈ 2:56 PM

Chair Williams, Supervisors. It's been a long goal to get here where we are today. My name is Keith Kaufman Gray and I'm chair of the County of Santa Barbara Historic Landmarks Advisory Commission. I'm very pleased with the details of the board supervisor's letter that you received i think it gave a nice background of what has been happening. As stated in the letter, Francesca Galt brought the nomination to Rocky Nook Park for historic landmark status to HLAC in early 2016.

HLAC formed a subcommittee at that time to work with County Parks Department, County Public Works and also Planning Development. The subcommittee met with the departments for multiple positive meetings and listened to their concerns and we incorporated these concerns into a proposed resolution. HLAC conducted and agendized meetings between 2016 and 2019. We had six meetings in that period, and we also incorporated the public's concerns and ideas into the resolution.

After our February 2019 meeting, after it was clear that there was not support at the supervisor level at the time, it was decided to suspend further work on the nomination. In early 22, after requests from fellow commissioners and the public, I as chair brought back the Rocky Nook Park nomination as a historic landmark at our April 2022 meeting. At the April meeting, HVAC decided to bring the nomination back at the resolution level instead of starting from beginning but where we kind of left off in 2019.

And we formed a new subcommittee to go over changes to the original resolution and again reach out to County Public Works, County Planning Development and County Parks Department On June 17th, the subcommittee had a very positive Zoom meeting with county departments to address their concerns and try to work out a solution for their support. On July 15th we got a letter from Chris Sneddon sent wording that's from Public Works sent wording that if put in the resolution the wording that you heard today put in the resolution County Public Works would support the nomination As mentioned at our November 14th meeting, Public Works wording was voted on by the full HLAC and it was defeated on a 4-4 tie.

A follow up vote on the resolution presented today without the wording was passed unanimously by all of HLAC commissions. County Parks Department never submitted to HLAC any wording that they would support. And I was very surprised to look at today's county letter that you saw, and it said that there is a wording in there that they would support if incorporated into the nomination. And i was very surprised they did not come to us before we approved it with this new language that they wanted.

In this language, in the language, there's a word capital improvements Now capital improvements wording by County Public Works is for only along the Mission Canyon Road. It's not the whole park, it's just along the road. And it states that in there what they would like in their nomination. Capital Improvements wording that's in there, that's by County Parks Department is for the entire Rocky Nook Park.

If that was inserted, that would allow them to do anything. I mean if they want to put a basketball court, they would be able to put a basketball court without coming to us. And all we ask in both departments is we don't... We just give recommendations. We want it come through us We have experts on the nomination and let us hear it, and then we give it back to them. And as was stated earlier, if there's something that we say no to and they object, they can always go to the Board of Supervisors and have us overruled. But the idea is just it's one step with we have a lot of experts on our commission that could go over it to make sure that the county historic landmark stays.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:00:12 · ≈ 3:00 PM

Keith, you're

PresenterKeith Kaufman Graydetails of the board supervisor's letter that yoProposedself-stated6:00:12 · ≈ 3:00 PM

overdue. I'm sorry.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:00:13 · ≈ 3:00 PM

Just wrap up.

PresenterKeith Kaufman Graydetails of the board supervisor's letter that yoProposedself-stated6:00:14 · ≈ 3:00 PM

OK? And the one question that County Parks gave us is, why Rocky Nook Park? Why not other our parks? All of our parks are historic. Well it's true that we have a lot of historic parks and the very good question, Rocky Nook Park meets the level of Historic Landmark in meeting the criteria of Section 18-A3 eligibility for Historic Landmark. Rocky Nook Park is unique and that is in a natural state within an urban environment next to the city of Santa Barbara with new housing being developed for Santa Barbara The more open space is going to be more necessary and Rocky Nook Park is right next to a city that makes it easy. So now's the time to make Rocky Nook Park Historic Landmark number 54. HLAC and county citizens have been working on this nomination since 2016, listen to the public and make Rocky Nook Park a historic landmark.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:01:06 · ≈ 3:01 PM

Thank you Keith I'm gonna have to just make sure that Further public speakers, we do have 16 public comment speakers and by our rules we then have public comment at two minutes. So just how nice I was to Keith it will not be continued. I am gonna cut you off after two minutes but we are an hour behind so next public commenter.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:01:33 · ≈ 3:01 PM

Ronald Nye to

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:01:33 · ≈ 3:01 PM

be followed by Fred Sweeney

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.776:01:42 · ≈ 3:01 PM

Thank

CommentRonald NyeProposedself-stated6:01:43 · ≈ 3:01 PM

you, Chair Williams and Supervisors. I'm Ronald Nye, historian and I currently serve as Vice-Chair of the Historic Landmarks Commission. I'm casting about for what to say in my three minutes or less. Or comments that I'm asked very often and one about this process and about landmarks, and in the county. And 1 of them it comes as a statement saying, of course.

A landmark cannot be changed or. Or altered. Landmark is forever doomed to live helplessly in or under his or her. Relic that, of course, is not true. HLAC and other design review bodies simply request that changes or alterations to a landmark be compatible with the original resource. That gets into terminology as to what is compatibility, and there are specific guidelines that HLAC uses and what architectural historians use To determine that.

And I will point out in the actual resolution itself there are numerous in numerous places language that allows explicitly What's the word I want? Implementation of normal maintenance and repair. That's a quote, further on on page three after discussing various features the resolution reads that alterations to the park shall preserve such features to the extent feasible And it goes on and reflect historic character. It goes on along the same lines. Mr. Nye, I'm going to have to wrap up.

Thank you very much and got through one question anyway. Great thank you and we urge you to support this nomination.

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CommentFred SweeneyProposedself-stated6:04:30 · ≈ 3:04 PM

Mr Chair and Supervisors thank you my name is Fred Sweeney. I'm going to read Keep under my three minutes, my comments. But if I have time at the end, I'd like to answer Mr. Lagavino's supervisor Lagavina's question about why? Why are we here? So I'm president of the board of directors of Mission Trail Heritage Association known as Safe Passage. We have submitted our letter in supporting information for your consideration concerning the request of the designation.

I'd like to take a moment though to cover two additional points. It was interesting when i delivered my packet of information to you all which I hope you received at the clerk's office last Friday at County Administration Building, I noticed on the elevator doors you had some goals laid out one of which was to make decisions by metric data and we for the last 12 years that have been pursuing a safe passage in this corridor have been providing that data including a ten thousand dollar Traffic and bicycle count for that corridor done by Associated Transportation Engineers, a formidable firm in Santa Barbara. That money was raised by our organization to assist. That information is in the hands of your Public Works Department as well with the City of Santa Barbara.

And we've continued to do that for the last 12 years on various stages. I am an architect by practice. I have been brought out of retirement to design the next phase of the Santa Barbara Airport Terminal that I designed 12 years ago, so I know a little bit about sites and roads and so forth but I'm also a lifelong resident of this area I spent many years of my childhood and many hours in Waller Park, next to where my aunt and my first four cousins lived in the old army barracks that were there. And over the years I've attended a lot of family events reunions Easter Sunday at Waller Park And my family goes way deep into the soil of this valley. There are pioneers that go back years of occupying here, so I that fostered a deep love of preservation and history and I've always loved that as an architect So this whole process kind of put in question in my mind looking at where the time is is do we...

That's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:06:54 · ≈ 3:06 PM

how much you're over.

CommentFred SweeneyProposedself-stated6:06:56 · ≈ 3:06 PM

Okay, do we designate other parks? Halama Beach, Galena Beach, Nahui Falls, Waller Park etc. Where does this end? So those are my comments I'd love to answer Mr. Lagomino's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:07:15 · ≈ 3:07 PM

Well, we are allowed to ask a question. So I will ask you can you answer Mr. Lavagnier's question?

CommentFred SweeneyProposedself-stated6:07:20 · ≈ 3:07 PM

If you looked at the information that I sent over there is a little section here that is based on a drawing I did based on the survey work that was authorized by the previous district supervisor who is now our congressman by county surveyors and as you may know the properties overlap the road right away in the county which is different than the cities And so in this case, that's what it does.

What this is all about? It's not about the park. It's about the historic curb where the road was prior to 1930 when the county widened Mission Creek Bridge and they moved the road over toward the Stegosaurus Wall. All we've been doing over these 12 years is hoping that they would move the road back away to back to that location of the historic Well three years into this process an individual who has now met with all of you and your ex parte declared to us that he would fight to the death any improvement for Mission Canyon irregardless of safety, handicap accessibility etc. And that's the result of this designation effort. It has nothing to do with the park. And that's wonderful. Want to designate it? That's great. It all is about that curb and the road right away.

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:08:45 · ≈ 3:08 PM

Prangal to be followed by

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:08:47 · ≈ 3:08 PM

Ernestine Ignacio De Soto.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed6:08:53 · ≈ 3:08 PM

Good afternoon supervisors the people who met with Supervisor Williams were Susan Chamberlain, Joel Michaelson Kevin Snow Paulina Kahn and myself Rocky Nook Park in Santa Barbara County has a deep and thorough history. But what is even more remarkable is the deep attachment people have for this park, and we've heard from so many of them. This one site has a very unusual and complete history, and the setting itself looks and feels much as it has for centuries.

Ancient boulders and landforms tell the story of the earliest existence. The natural stream with its native plants and trees gave sustenance to the first people, it's been a gathering place for the Chumash and all that followed continuously through all the generations. The founding of the Presidio was possible because of the fresh water brought by channels from this site.

The establishment of the mission was possible because of building materials here and in Mission Canyon. The plentiful supply of sandstone here became a main feature in distinctive Santa Barbara architecture In the 1880s, the Olivers, the first settlers knew this remarkable site was a historic resource. They shared it with everyone in the outdoors with picnics and afternoon teas.

After the Olivers died their good friends and neighbors raised $27,000 to purchase the main portion of Rocky Nook And it became a park for the public almost 100 years ago in 1928. It's even more urgent now to protect these native trees and plants as much as possible To keep the natural stream healthy and honor this complete. Fran, you're going

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:11:20 · ≈ 3:11 PM

to have to wrap up.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed6:11:21 · ≈ 3:11 PM

I'm finishing up. And honor this complete unique historic landscape for all generations of the future. We owe it to all of those who came before. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:11:33 · ≈ 3:11 PM

Thank you, Fran. Ernestine Ignacio de Soto to be followed by Aloki Parra.

CommentSupervisors MiyoshiProposed · by introduction6:12:00 · ≈ 3:12 PM

Haku, haku. Kakti Ernestine, Ignacio De Soto and Kakinosh for listening to me. I have to use the Hollywood thing and no, I wasn't swearing at you, Kakinosh, thank you. I come here in peace for a change And I'm listening to all of you and I'm not polished or educated, just a savage fighting for her land. You can always settle everything by just giving it back but that's not possible yet.

But I have to say this landmark is important in 1928. I don't know if that's when it was established or given some form of acknowledgement. That's the year my sister was born And it's been in the generations throughout everyone here. She spent her childhood here, I spent my childhood there, and my children spent their childhood there. So that alone makes it important.

But aside from my being here for whatever, I've got you guys. We've been here 13,000 years. And designating all parks? Why not? They belong to us and we're willing to share. Also, down the beach? Absolutely! Ambassador Park isn't the only place we stood. We occupied that entire area. So we're willing to take that back since I was on the waterfront committee, and I never did get that carousel. I still want it back. It's perfect. I don't wanna tear it down.

It's a perfect form for an op at Chumash House. But I'm here also because I'm concerned about the safe passage over there. I don't care Indian or whatever your race, it's important to protect our people. And that means everyone. And utilizing anything for their special personal agenda? That's wrong. I understand there's a tree that's endangered, well it's not gonna be the last sycamore and I'm a tree hugger, I can say that.

And moving the bridge would be a consideration. It hasn't been here 13,000 years But by moving that over into the creek, over the creek just a few feet you have to boy step that whole area anyhow. So why not? And if I were in charge which I'm not and I'm talking about my own people it has to be monitored and I would do it for nothing just to provide the safety.

You could give me a tax break. I've done that for the mission So it's important, we're all one no matter how we think or feel. And so we have to think about the rest of the planet and this alone is a part of it. So you can always transplant that tree and as for the plants out there they are not indigenous but we do have a way of restoring them if you talk to what is at the marine sanctuary Or channel, whatever it is girls out here know.

It's important and I agree. And as a tribe we would like to be able to utilize out there ourselves. We have a lot to teach

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:15:40 · ≈ 3:15 PM

wrap up their

CommentSupervisors MiyoshiProposed · by introduction6:15:41 · ≈ 3:15 PM

OK cut us off like you do. You wouldn't do that in Council on tribal law. I've given

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:15:48 · ≈ 3:15 PM

you a minute longer than every other person because you

CommentSupervisors MiyoshiProposed · by introduction6:15:51 · ≈ 3:15 PM

are an elder. Yes, yes, yes. I've heard that before so anyway think about that and the real name according to the girls is Hanayan remember that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:16:04 · ≈ 3:16 PM

Thank you. So folks, I know we have some more public commenters. I really got to tell you, we have almost been perfect in our record of not being able to make it under the time limit. So please that when it's a red flashing light, it means you're over the time limit.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 27Proposed6:16:25 · ≈ 3:16 PM

Mister chair members of the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:16:27 · ≈ 3:16 PM

yes, and I wanted to make sure that the language. That parks provided to protect exempt existing uses from the designation but where they would agree with to the designation want to make sure that was up on the screen so members the public could see it

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 27Proposed6:16:49 · ≈ 3:16 PM

And Mister chair and members of the board, just for the record. It's the same language that Chair Williams read out before we went on break. We just wanted to make sure that it was displayed for the public so be easier to reference.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:17:14 · ≈ 3:17 PM

And Mr. Chair members of the board, it's also available online

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.776:17:17 · ≈ 3:17 PM

great. Could we deputize someone? Okay, great.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:17:47 · ≈ 3:17 PM

So

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisor, District 4Proposedvoiceprint 0.776:17:48 · ≈ 3:17 PM

we can get to the next public commenter.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:18:07 · ≈ 3:18 PM

Alokoy Parra

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:18:08 · ≈ 3:18 PM

to be followed by Robin Redwater

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 34Proposed6:18:14 · ≈ 3:18 PM

I'm a Chumash woman with lineage spanning from San Ynez, Santa Barbara, Ventura and the Channel Islands. I urge you to designate Rocky Nook as a historical landmark. Rocky Nook is a village site that my ancestors have lived in for thousands of years prior to precolonizations. The ancient ones built aqueducts that Mexican and Spanish government would later benefit from. The boulders located in Rocky Nook Park are the largest remaining site of debris flow. I also believe the Board of Supervisors must consider land back. Our relationship with our ancestral land is sacred and it's very telling that to this day Santa Barbara has not given any land back to the original people of this land that have documented lineage.

Being that protecting Rocky Nook as a historical landmark is consistent with the Mission Canyon Community Plan, I hope you feel the need to make the right choice. After all, Rocky Nook is a historical environmental and sacred space that must be preserved for the future generations. And as Ernestine Ignacio de Soto stated in 2018 about this issue, Hutash is watching. Beware.

Thank you. I yield my time.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:19:21 · ≈ 3:19 PM

Robin Redwater to be followed by Mariana Parr.

PresenterMaria KellyProposed · by introduction6:19:33 · ≈ 3:19 PM

Hakuhaku Kianti Kakti Robin Redwater as a Chumash woman I strongly urge for Rocky Nook to be declared a historical landmark. There is plenty of evidence that the aqueduct was built by Chumash Spanish colonizers would not have known the land and connecting water sources to create such a thing. Good morning, everyone. My name is Barbara and I'm the Supervisor of the County Board of Supervisors meeting today. I'd like to welcome you all to this meeting in which we will be discussing the issue of the Shumash. The Shumash is a land that has been lost for more than 50 years. It was once part of our community and now it's part of our community.

It's unacceptable that it has not already been declared a landmark as the county is very quick to recognize and to declare landmarks with the mission or places with ties to your European American ancestors. I hope that Rocky Nook is recognized as a historical landmark and we can use this space to educate and uplift the community. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:20:45 · ≈ 3:20 PM

Marian Para to be followed by Polina Khan.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 35Proposed6:20:59 · ≈ 3:20 PM

I'm feeling really inspired today. Everybody here that has come to support Rocky Nook Park, before it was Rocky Nook as they mentioned is Hanayan which means rocky so the name has stood the test of time from ancestral days through the Spanish mission era Settler colonialism and today in modern time, and I'm sure this will be the name as the future goes on. Rocky Nook Park actually does have native plants that are there. They've got toyon, they've got the oak tree. These plants despite mudslides, torrential rainfall They've lasted like our people. No matter how we try to get rid of them, they still grow. They still break through that ground. You can't separate us from the land. We have lived on these lands for time immemorial. We've caretaken these lands.

This is why the reason people want to live here, they come to visit They see the beauty. They feel the spirit of the territory. You can't not come here and not feel it, that's why people continually come here. We want preservation over profit. This was a village site. We don't want our sites desecrated anymore or destroyed. These territories were not made to withstand all the buildings, the homes and the roadways Ancestrally you either had to walk, hike over or go through a tamal.

They were not properly made. We knew there was landslides and we'll continue to have landslides no matter what we do as we move forward in the future using geonetting everything we're putting up concrete walls the ocean is still taking it all back. Why not make it a historical landmark? Because it has been this entire time. There's boulders there that can prove the geological age of 35 million years. This says something.

Please, I implore you to do what's right and make Rocky Nook a historic landmark. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:23:13 · ≈ 3:23 PM

Paulina Kahn to be followed by Carl Huttoner.

CommentPaulina KahnProposedself-stated6:23:20 · ≈ 3:23 PM

Good afternoon, Chair Williams and Board of Supervisors. My name is Paulina Kahn. I have lived in Mission Canyon for 50 years. I spend glorious hours walking to, from and in Rocky Nook Park. Please designate the park a county historic landmark per the resolution unanimously passed by your very large Historic Landmarks Advisory Commission. The heritage of a place is what sets it apart from all other places. Preserving these places remembers and saves the culture of the people who came before.

Preserving historical sites benefits us and the future. Landmark designation does not prohibit change nor demolition outright. It ensures a more thorough review before change, including demolition proposals. Landmark designation does not inhibit routine maintenance and repair in any way. Why does parks and transportation even mention this? Rocky Nook Park is more than worthy. Here is a complete, authentic display of Santa Barbara's natural and human history both backwards and forwards in time from 1782 without the oak woodland and riparian creek ecology having been destroyed after 241 years of foreign occupation so to speak?

This is amazing! The natural landscape, the land of the free Chumash is still here Artifacts of Chumash labor after 1782 still exist here too. The spirit of the past can be felt. Because of its location and complete history, Rocky Nook Park is an essential extension of Mission Historical Park, a city historic landmark for decades. Rocky Nook Park is directly associated with the Chumash place names of Ahtayuhas and Hanayan, places of the wild cherries and rocky place. Both still very visible and accessible here.

The giant boulder field is a place of awe in geologic study. Artifacts of Spanish-Mexican pioneer and the parks era are all found without any of the native oak woodland and riparian ecology having been destroyed. Incredible! Please designate Rocky Nook Park as a County Historic Landmark, as your HLAC unanimously designated. Thank you so very much.

CommentCarl HuttererProposedself-stated6:26:07 · ≈ 3:26 PM

Honorable Supervisors, my name is Carl Hutterer. I live at 790 Mission Canyon Road as an immediate neighbor of Rocky Nook Park and have lived in that neighborhood for the past 23 years. I'm an archaeologist by training and have a lifelong commitment to both historic and environmental conservation. While I love Rocky Nook Park and have enjoyed using it in many ways over the years and believe that its character should be protected.

I also believe that landmarking a park or living landscape is unnecessary and silly exercise. Rocky Nook is managed by the County Parks Division, which is committed to protecting the integrity and historical character of the property. And if any plans for changes were ever contemplated They would necessarily have to go through a historical review. There seems to be proper and sufficient protection.

However, I have no objections in principle imposing historic landmarks designation on the park if that soothes some overly anxious historicists. But only on the condition that this does not do any harm in the long term by hindering or preventing improvements to public safety, that are both acceptable from a conservation point of view and in the public interest.

For this reason I strongly object to a designation that could ultimately hinder or prevent necessary maintenance and safety improvements to the counties right away adjacent to the park. There's a long history of abusing legislation policies designed for environmental and historic preservation to further other agendas. This needs to stop, thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:28:00 · ≈ 3:28 PM

Sheila Snow to be followed by Lonnie Ebenstein

CommentSheila SnowProposedself-stated6:28:04 · ≈ 3:28 PM

Hi, I'm Sheila Snow and I am Das Williams' appointee to HLAC. I've been on it for approximately seven years and I have been on two of the subcommittees that have been appointed to look at the landmarking of Rocky Nook Park Federal State and county law mandates the protection of historical and archaeological assets. HLAC, the Historic Landmarks Commission. Our purview is to identify and designate historic assets in order to try to protect and preserve them. We are not a political entity. We are not taking sides on the future road plan.

We have determined that there are significant historical assets in Rocky Nook Park We're going to be looking at a number of items that deserve landmarking. And I think the part of the issue is there seems to be some drive that, as Supervisor Williams said earlier, that is about a road that isn't even happening yet. The landmarks are here. The road may or may not happen.

We are not taking a side on that issue. We are not making money from the design of it or anything. We are here and I do believe that compromise is possible. It's the supervisors, they have to approve, disapprove or modify but we do really want a resolution today because our 90 days will be up in February. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:30:13 · ≈ 3:30 PM

Lonnie Ebenstein to be followed by Kevin Snow.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 36Proposed6:30:17 · ≈ 3:30 PM

Chair Williams, members of the Board of Supervisors thank you for your time thank you for your service to Santa Barbara County I'm going to make relatively brief comments this is obviously an issue you've heard a great deal about and seems to me that the primary issue is this first of all I think the case has been very well made Rocky Nook is an appropriate county landmark. The County Ordinance with respect to landmarks makes reference to, quote, distinctive examples of park planning and Rocky Nook certainly is that and qualifies I think as a historic landmark on many bases. The question is what sort of direction do you then in the future want to have as to how major capital decision making occurs with respect to Rocky Nook Park?

I think that it needs to be emphasized again since there's been a little question brought up as to routine maintenance and repairs, minor items. Those don't require any HLAC review. The question is on major items should there be HLAC review? And that seems to me to be entirely appropriate as I've indicated to you in a letter that I wrote to over the weekend.

As the family owner of a historic landmark, it's a great advantage to go to HLAC. They have a lot of good ideas. Mr. Coffman Gray's comments were absolutely correct. They're there to work with people in terms of they're not there to prevent people from doing what they want And the question is when there are major changes to Rocky Nook that are proposed, wherever they're proposed should HLAC go to that?

Be involved in that process from the start or should it start at the Board of Supervisors level essentially and everybody come here when that first item is in a budget For an agenda item, I don't think that's the best course. I think it's better for HLAC to have that review function That's why I would encourage you to support the resolution that HLAC unanimously endorsed on one final point too I think that some of the reason why there was an earlier vote that there were some And for our final speaker, Kevin Snow.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 37Proposed6:32:52 · ≈ 3:32 PM

Good afternoon, Chair Williams and the rest of the Board of Supervisors. I'm going to take a slightly different tack and that is as a resident of Santa Barbara and Mission Canyon for a very long time, I was appointed back in 2009, I think, to be on the Mission Canyon Area Planning Committee that came up with uh... mission canyon area plan it was adopted in two thousand fourteen that was after five years constant uh... public hearing and talk about the important issues in the canyon one of which are several of which were incorporated in the uh... mission canyon area plan now the issue is lived long enough to see that department heads and staff come and go things change The purpose of the Mission Canyon plan and the general plan is to establish a guideline so that staff doesn't just come up with a new plan, a new idea, a new recreational outlet or whatever.

That doesn't comport with the meaning of the general plan and in Mission Canyon, the community plan. And so I want you to respect the fact that a great deal of time by your volunteers and citizens that have gone into creating the Mission Canyon Community Plan be honored. And the request that Rocky Nook be landmark, I think is a very good one completely consistent with the plan and I strongly urge you to adopt it. Thank you very much.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:34:30 · ≈ 3:34 PM

Chair Williams and members of the board we have no further requests to speak.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:34:36 · ≈ 3:34 PM

Is there any further questions from the board? Supervisor Harbin.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.816:34:45 · ≈ 3:34 PM

This would be to Mr Lindgren, if he's available still. I'm having trouble with the capital improvements for that capital improvements language for parks. I am not sure why for new capital improvements you wouldn't go to HLAC and so I'd like a clarification justification for that.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 33Proposed6:35:15 · ≈ 3:35 PM

Supervisor Hartman, members of the board. Thank you. I would characterize a capital improvement as something along the lines of replacement of the restroom facility at Rocky Nook Park, where we don't currently have the mixed gender types of restrooms that are now being required. So there could be some major renovations to the restroom building in the future that will be necessary. Replacement of the playground area As another example of capital improvements that playground is reaching the end of its useful life and will require replacement in the near future.

So, you know items along those lines would be what we're talking about as far as capital improvements those are capital improvements. What we are not talking about is installing pickleball courts or basketball courts, or anything along those lines that changes the fundamental character of the way Rocky Note Park is currently used by the public.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:36:26 · ≈ 3:36 PM

And I'll just insert myself in that. It was honestly parks preference to exempt the capital improvement for projects, I said well wouldn't be good enough to exempt the capital improvement projects that are about the existing uses which are our you know passive uses bathrooms And because what the angst in the community that was at least expressed to me, was about new uses. So new uses would have to jump through the additional hurdle but existing uses would not.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.816:37:02 · ≈ 3:37 PM

Well and I guess my question is how big is that hurdle? It seems to me if you were putting in new bathrooms or a new playground it might be of value to hear from HLAC about how to make As as compatible with the surrounding, um. Historic landmark designation so I don't see it as a huge hurdle and. I guess I'm not persuaded that we should have capital improvements as part of the language.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:37:38 · ≈ 3:37 PM

I'll just say for my part, first of all, Mission Canyon is an incredible neighborhood and it's filled with a number of my favorite people in my district. And they were and have been prepared for a civil war in the neighborhood over the road project. I think it's important to note that HLAC is not going to be taking sides in the road project today. That is why I prepared this language. I think, you know, it is unfortunate that HLAC didn't approve that form originally. I think however the chair followed the right way a chair should do It's our job to balance these and, you know, I think there are good arguments and passionate good people on both sides of the debate about the road. But I would hope that we would make it today about the historic designation of the park.

And I personally don't believe I haven't received one request to stop parks from the existing uses in the park. All the angst has been about pickleball or about some other use that doesn't currently exist in the park. So any other comments from the board?

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.896:39:30 · ≈ 3:39 PM

Thank you and I wanted to thank the speakers and it's clear in my mind there is no question that this should be historically designated. The park exemplifies the lifestyle and legacy of a well-educated affluent easterners, so I think that's kind of a narrow prism by which to determine what is historical or not. So I think we have a better context now with the voices of the Chumash but certainly I think right before us is a compromise. We want to preserve this beautiful historic park and the safety components that they need to do. And to me, it doesn't have to be an either or you can have preservation and safety. And I commend the compromises of staff and of Supervisor Williams of coming up with that language. So that's where I land is a modification.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:40:36 · ≈ 3:40 PM

Thank you, Supervisor Capps any other comment?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.846:40:43 · ≈ 3:40 PM

Well, this is a rough one because I came into this meeting with an open mind as we do all the hearings. Um, I support many of the arguments to support that historic designation. Um. I kind of took something different out of the public comment 1st off. I don't know how long your meetings go, but you guys cannot stay with those meetings was 3 hours. But. Yeah, I felt like I thought we were trying to do something good. I came here today and almost feel like we're being chastised for reviewing it and I'm lost somewhere in this thing so I don't know if it's just misplaced frustration but.

Yeah, I'm with Supervisor Capps. I mean the two main reasons for me is to support is I want to validate like the last speaker said, I want to validate and support our volunteers on HLAC. They put a lot of time and energy into this and the second thing is I truly believe it meets the criteria however you know I think we need additional language in I'm not sure if that's exactly where you were going, but yeah. I would support that.

Supervisor Hart?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.816:42:04 · ≈ 3:42 PM

I'm with my colleagues except for, I think public works language and that works for me. That means I guess according to Chair Williams that we're agnostic on the road issue but I'm having trouble with the parks capital improvement. I believe that is something that could and should go to HLAC Uh, if you're changing the appearance and to some extent the function of things.

It would benefit from HLAC which we've already said is really very knowledgeable, very dedicated people who have said this has historic value and so any capital improvements I think would be improved by their consultation with them.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:42:59 · ≈ 3:42 PM

And I, I'm not going to try to you know, I'll just say that. I went through 3 different versions of this language with parks and I understand parks position that they if they change the nature of a bathroom from. You know, a, you know, a traditional style bathroom to a unisex bathroom that they don't want to have to go through historic landmarks and I agree with that position.

If the question is, what would this cover? The designation would require us to go to HVAC in the case of a new use in the park and a new capital improvement. But if it was just to repair an old one or to change the nature of the bathroom then it would not. Can I get a motion? Unless there is further debate. And I'll make the motion on move that we approve the historic landmarks designation with proposed resolution language that was up on the screen That we exempt the elements that public the public works language as one. The number 2 parks language number 3 the admin building and parking areas for the administration building number 4, the internal roadway and parking areas for public access.

Sir second.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 27Proposed6:44:49 · ≈ 3:44 PM

Without a second miss and miss. Oh, was there a 2nd? OK Mr. Chair is going to say that to also include the SQL language

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:44:59 · ≈ 3:44 PM

yes. So I'm making that motion if there is there a second

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction6:45:05 · ≈ 3:45 PM

I'll second.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:45:07 · ≈ 3:45 PM

There's motion

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction6:45:07 · ≈ 3:45 PM

and further discussion.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:45:09 · ≈ 3:45 PM

Yeah go ahead for sure supervisor Nelson.

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction6:45:13 · ≈ 3:45 PM

I just wanted to apologize to the public and my colleagues. I had to step out briefly for a family emergency, but I think I caught most of it and I've been briefed on it so I still think I am valid to be part of the discussion. Getting back to that Supervisor Hartman's concern about capital improvement, if goes back to HVAC That means a couple months more in the process because we still have the ability support to override that if necessary, that power. We don't give that up.

If it's something that reaches that threshold of capital improvement I know 1 of things that. I would have been worried about if I was parks is that sometimes these committees can. process these items for months, right? And just really gumming it up as you know we can kind of see that people like to talk. But you know on this part knowing that Parks has that additional step that they could just bypass HVAC if HVAC doesn't provide constructive input into the process and go right back to us does that give us any more comfort on that or are we really concerned about that time delay in the process

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:46:23 · ≈ 3:46 PM

I want to answer parks if you wish to answer Mr linger.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 33Proposed6:46:31 · ≈ 3:46 PM

Here William supervisor Nelson, thank you for the question. Yes it's a it's a time and resources issue. What does it look like to take a bathroom remodel to H lack? Are there architectural drawings that are required that may need to be revised? Before we go forward with the project and if we disagree with HLAC, we would need to you know write a board letter and come back to your board.

In another reasonably contentious meeting where we were in disagreement County body. So there is a you know, a time and resource question there.

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction6:47:22 · ≈ 3:47 PM

Okay, I think I can appreciate that tension. That's helpful. I'm not sure if it flips me over on that but it helps. It's helpful.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:47:35 · ≈ 3:47 PM

Yeah, I'll just say for my part that one of the best advice I ever got in public policy was one of my staffers when I went to the legislature. She said this with my chief of staff she said you're going to get all sorts of people with all sorts of great ideas coming in for new laws want you to ask every single one of them what's the problem you're trying to solve with this?

And I asked that of the advocates, they gave me examples. This language would address the examples that they gave me. So if that's the problems that we're attempting to solve, we would solve that if there is a... The fear that was expressed to me was of active recreation or non-recreation uses that are new and this would still solve them.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.896:48:26 · ≈ 3:48 PM

Chair Williams, I just would like to add to I think that you know this tension over this piece of it is sort of missing the whole point. I mean, I think there's a wide agreement here that we want the designation which really excites me as a child who spent time in this park in the 70s that this will look the same Thank you very much. Thank you.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.816:49:04 · ≈ 3:49 PM

Yeah, I will not be supporting the motion. Um, I do agree for the historic designation. I think that case has been overwhelmingly made but I find that capital improvement really undercuts that designation significantly and it you know, you can think while adding a bathroom internally that doesn't really matter. But a playground, you could imagine that that would look very you could design something. That would be very out of character some of the adding storage buildings and things I.

I understand agencies want to protect their own discretion, but I have a lot of confidence in HLAC. And once you have your designs, you can go through two processes at once be moving your project along and also go to HLAC. So I'm unpersuaded in this case by Parks.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:49:59 · ≈ 3:49 PM

I understand, but I would just say that the both of the examples that you used a new building and a playground would both not be exempted by this language. And so I think that the... I'm just hopeful that in this community which has been divided for many, many years on this would be able to for a moment have maybe I think it's important that we have a white flag of peace and celebrate the park and move on. And I just, you know, I think putting parks through the ringer isn't going to help us financially and isn't going to help them do their job.

So I would request that we vote on the motion as is. Why don't we do roll call? Maybe I know

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role6:51:00 · ≈ 3:51 PM

this took seven years.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:51:29 · ≈ 3:51 PM

Okay, good thing it's the same department doing the next item. Well, that's important. We should respect labor laws even when they're inconvenient. Our interpreters need to take a short break so we'll reconvene at four o'clock. We are back from the break for the translators. And we're all here departmental item number 5.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role7:01:06 · ≈ 4:01 PM

Chair Williams and members of the board departmental item number 5 is from the planning development department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the county, the county planning commissions recommended ordinance amendment to the Santa Barbara County land use and development code to amend chapter 35. Article 35.3 of the LUDC to provide a streamlined ministerial review process to implement state housing laws and to provide objective design standards for multi-unit and mixed use development for housing projects.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 31Proposed7:01:42 · ≈ 4:01 PM

Mister chair members of the board. So today we have as, as the clerk indicated 2 items that are part of 1 ordinance package. 1 is to create a streamlined permit process for SB 35 projects. That's something we've been needing to do for some time. And we were able to do it as part of this package, and then we have the objective design standards for multi unit and mixed use development.

This is coming to you in a very rapid process. It's not our usual process. And the reason for that is, as we know that we are going to be missing our deadline for adoption of the housing element. Which is February 15th and as part of the result of that there was the potential for projects to be subject to lower standards than we would normally like to see. So, what we did very quickly over the winter break was develop a set of objective design standards which can then be applied to ministerial permits that might come through the process while we are out of compliance.

I really think I need to publicly thank Travis Sewards and Jeff Wilson here, and Brian Pettit who is not with us today who worked furiously over the holiday break to produce this document. And we were able to go to the Planning Commission on the 11th of January with that package I think I need to buy them both a cruise in Alaska or something like that so they can have some time off. But anyway, they did a really fine job. We were able to take a lot of information from what other jurisdictions have adopted and then tailor it to the county. And I think when I reviewed it, I originally thought we were going to have something much smaller because of the shortened process but when I reviewed it, I thought these are actually quite good And it's something that the county has needed, I think for quite some time to make it more clear what it is we're looking for in terms of design and these types of projects.

This is focused on the inland area at this time. And I did want to say that I did reach out to the chairs of each BAR that is impacted by this and spoke with them about it and explained the circumstances under which we were bringing it forward They were very grateful for those conversations and they did attend the planning commission, but they did not make any comments.

So this is a work in progress and I don't want to steal my staff's thunder here. They do have a presentation, but it's a work in progress and we can amend in the future and will be extending it to the coastal zoning area and Montecito Land Use Development Code. With that, I would like to turn it over to Mr. Wilson to begin the presentation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 38Proposed7:04:52 · ≈ 4:04 PM

Good afternoon, chair and members of the board. I may repeat some of the things that are common stated or previously how we have a brief slide is just provide an overview of the ordinance amendments before you today. The project scope that's before you as far as the ordinance amendments that were developed is satisfying two components, one is to provide for that streamlined application review under Senate Bill 35, as well as develop those objective design standards that Director Palmer indicated a few minutes ago.

As a quick background, as you're aware SP 35 was adopted and passed by the state which provides for an expedited in construction of housing and qualifying projects must receive a ministerial review. So part of the ordinance amendment package today creates that objective zoning standards that that state law says can be applied. And those objective zoning standards require that no personal or subjective judgment is used in the review of those.

That it's uniform and there's some certainty in the process both by the government and the applicant as they are processing that, and that those objective standards are adopted and published by the local agency. So as Judge Pellman indicated, there's two chapters we're proposing to add to the Land Use and Development Code. The first chapter is the one that implements the expedited or the streamlined review process of SB 35 projects. And we are proposing that they be reviewed and approved under zoning clearance which would be a ministerial approval.

And then these projects would be reviewed and approved by the director. The next chapter is the one Providing for the objective design standards. We're there's five section there and just really briefly, the two that are have the most impact would probably be building design and site design which alludes not alludes which applies to where you're how the building is going to look and where it's cited on the property, which is very helpful to staff as we get proposals in and allows us to provide some type of objective criteria as we're working with applicants and developers on these The next area is, and that we want to talk about on those divine objective design standards. Has to do that as director found indicated. That is just for the latest development code their plans to update the Montecito development code as well as a coastal zone to be able to get something in place for the larger portion of the county.

We focus on the land use and development code. And these objective design standards would apply to those state laws that have recently been passed or over the last few years, especially the housing development projects under Housing Accountability Act SB 35 supportive housing under AB 2162 as well as any other multiple unit or mixed use development where the county may require objective standards.

One thing to note as well is that part of that streamline process and using these objective design standards, for those applicants that go through use these objective design standards. There's a provision that exempts these projects to go through a formal design review process. So it allows for more certainty for the applicants, as well as to meet those deadlines by state law to get these approved under the time period that's articulated by state law.

Focusing on the new chapter, which is chapter 35.33, those components have to do with the building design. Just highlight a couple of those is the masking articulation as well as materials and colors provides certainty to the applicants that... Sorry, the presentation. That would be great. Yeah, that'd be a great masking articulation It looks better on the TV.

So under this you would only have roofs and no walls, but this is a new design. We do things different in this county. Okay, back to the presentation. So just to highlight would be the buildings basing the massing and articulation which is just to break it up so there's variation in elevation and style. and the building facade. The next one is site design, and that's how the buildings are placed and just how the site is developed and to provide some guidance direction to the developers on how they would put the components in place.

Mainly like vehicle parking, building placement, open space areas, and then building orientation and access areas. The other component of this chapter is mixed-use standards That allow for the ground floor height, transparency of the development as well as street facing setbacks. And these components focus on again for mixed use developments specific site building and ground entry floor level requirements bicycle parking in those walls and fences.

This section, which is very easy to say utilitarian elements are basically those accessory or incidental components of a development, which includes like the bicycle parking the trash and recycling. Green waste 1 thing to note about this section of the ordinance has to do with. There's already objective standards in our ordinance and what we're trying to accomplish here is to consolidate those. So there's a single area or section of the ordinance where developers can go to find these, so we try to tie everything back into one section for ease of use or implementation of this ordinance.

The next Part of this process is that we did go to the Planning Commission on January 11th. There's a 5-0 vote to recommend approval to the Board of Supervisors today, and in that hearing, the Planning Commission did recommend that the following language or this language be added to the ordinance. Those revisions were made in the ordinance package that was forwarded to the board for review basically allowing for Condition to be placed on these projects if allowed by state law or if they meet the objective design standards as well.

1 thing in conclusion, or before I wrap up. Is that we did receive a public comment or inquiry after the planning commission. And we noticed a typo and then some clarification language on this slide was provided to the clerk, the board is posted online and I think it was distributed before the hearing. And that is basically to change the reference there from a B to an A, which has to do with building siding locations.

And then there was some clarification on item number two, we added the word exterior. And the reason for that is to provide some clarification that those these requirements here would apply to any development with exterior facing entrances and not to preclude development with interior entrances. So that was the clarification that we wanted to recommend the board incorporate in the ordinance today.

Staff's recommending that these ordinances, ordinance amendment be exempt from environmental review under section 15061B3. And then our recommendations today is to make the required findings including CEQA findings, find it exempt from CEQA and then finally a change in the motion would be to adopt an ordinance and to amend the Land Use Development Code as revised today of this Santa Barbara code.

So that staff's presentation and we're available for questions. Thank you.

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CommentFred SweeneyProposedself-stated7:13:09 · ≈ 4:13 PM

Questions of staff?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed7:13:15 · ≈ 4:13 PM

Is there any public comment on this item?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role7:13:18 · ≈ 4:13 PM

Chair Williams and members of the board, we have no request to speak on this item.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed7:13:23 · ≈ 4:13 PM

I'll just say for my part, I really appreciate the hard work of getting this done quickly. And we know with the actual housing element in addition to this that's adding a lot of work on a lot of work so we really appreciate it. Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.817:13:39 · ≈ 4:13 PM

Yes, this was a Herculean task. I went through the HCD handbook and I hadn't any idea really what we were asking of you until I started going through these objective standards which are I mean, highly detailed and extremely complex. And you have to be able to visualize what the numeric requirements are asking of you. And so it was only then that I realized what we were asking of you And it's really an extraordinary accomplishment that you've been able to do this. And I am so grateful because I think this acts as an insurance policy for us and it was, it was very desperately needed and you gave your vacation time. Uh, the 3 of you to do this and I just.

I think we all are so appreciative and then it sailed through the planning commission in almost record time. And I suspect it's going to sail through the board. So it's just amazing. And thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed7:14:58 · ≈ 4:14 PM

I'm going to turn it over to Supervisor Nielsen.

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CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction7:15:21 · ≈ 4:15 PM

And you can see just look down the street in Santa Maria, where we have a six story portable coming up or being put up in a minute of our community that doesn't quite fit. And these are types of things that can happen without some basic objective standards in place so that we can have something you know we all want to see additional housing. But it needs to be done correctly. And I think that we have a board and we definitely have a state that's aggressive in those measures, and so we were having to play catch up. And again, I wanna thank Travis and Jeff and the whole entire team that worked on this and Lisa for your leadership making sure this would happen because I think it leaves us as a county vulnerable to not have the proper input. That we would hope to go into even some basic housing projects so this is definitely direction and I'm going to.

Love to make the motion when time's ready.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed7:16:15 · ≈ 4:16 PM

Well, I think the time is ready.

CommentHLAC UhProposed · by introduction7:16:18 · ≈ 4:16 PM

I would like to move a staff recommendations one two and three. As revised

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed7:16:24 · ≈ 4:16 PM

second

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed7:16:25 · ≈ 4:16 PM

all those in favor say aye. Thank you very much. My apologies if there is anybody watching out there. There probably is not, but if there is I did not adjourn and I will adjourn this to February 7th.