BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 April 6, 2023

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:01

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:32

Of the board. I do have a few announcements this morning and before I begin can he's using minnows who is joining us via zoom please translate my first announcement for those members of the public who are in person today. First, I would like to announce that we do have translators standing by and available to provide consecutive Spanish translation during today's public comment

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:58

Primeramente queremos anunciar que tenemos servicios de interpretación al español para el periodo de comentarios del público.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:08

For those members of the public using this service today, they will be provided the necessary time to complete their comments and the allotted time plus the time to translate their comments

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed2:19

Thank you, Jesus. And if you have any further instructions you would like to provide to the members of the public who will be using these services, you could do so now. Thank you. Thank you so much, Jesus. I appreciate it.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:19

And lastly, for the Board of Supervisors methods of public participation and to provide public comment on general public comment or an item on the board's agenda please see page 2 of the agenda. Individuals that would like to provide verbal public comment may do so via Zoom by registering in advance via the link available on page two. If you have any questions please feel free to contact the Clerk of the Board's Office at area code 805-568-2240 again that's 805 568 So I just want to explain.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:11

A little bit the items, there are two items. There is an open item on an urgency ordinance for Just Cause for residential evictions. There is also a closed session. A closed session is when the county anticipates either litigation that we will initiate against someone or that we will be the recipient of and then before that there is public comment but public comment on items Not on this agenda, so right now is the time when we will take public comment for items that have nothing to do with the Just Cause for Residential Evictions. Then we will take the Just Cause for Residential Evictions Urgency Ordinance up.

So general public comment today?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role5:04

Chair Williams and members of the public, it doesn't appear that we have any members of the public who wish to speak on general public comment today. I do have two members of the public with raised hands so perhaps we can go to them on Zoom just to see if it was for our departmental item today or for general public comment an item not on our agenda today. So we will go to Anna Marie Gott.

Anna?

CommentAnna Marie GottProposed5:31

Good afternoon supervisors. I would just like to make a comment about the cost of living in Santa Barbara and the fact that the county has a minimum wage that is far below what it would take to actually house someone in the county. You know, your minimum wage is $15 an hour. And with a minimum wage for county residents at $15 an hour and with the cost of housing as expensive as it is in Santa Barbara, it really just shows that the Board of Supervisors is fine with businesses paying poverty wages to employ their employees And I think that the Board of Supervisors needs to take a hard look at themselves considering all of the housing that is being built.

You know, not within people who are being paid close to the minimum wages ability to actually afford without crowded conditions or without people living in substandard housing and that you really need to look at implementing a living wage throughout the entire county. If you were to do that And look at ensuring that people who are working 40 hours a week, who can actually afford a place to live in Santa Barbara.

So I would just urge you to consider looking at the actual cost of living what your wages are being paid throughout the county and actually consider implementing a living wage. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role7:32

And that concludes our requests on general public comment today.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role7:38

And we will go to departmental item number one, which is the urgency ordinance on just cause for residential evictions.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role7:44

Chair Williams and members of the board, departmental item number one is sponsored by Supervisor Williams and Supervisor Capps. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an urgency ordinance to amend County Code Chapter 44 to add Article Six, just cause for residential evictions. That's four, excuse me. Four-fifths vote required or alternatively consider recommendations with a three-fifths vote required. Thank you. We

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed8:17

will have brief

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role8:18

staff presentation. Mr. Spencer? Mr. Kilbrey?

CommentSpencer BrandtProposedself-stated8:25

Good morning, Chair Williams and Supervisors. My name is Spencer Brandt. I'm the District Representative for Supervisor Williams. With me is Jordan Killebrew, District Representative for Supervisor Capps. We are here to give a brief overview of the item before you today. I am going to start with an overview of existing law. Santa Barbara County Chapter 44 requires that landlords pay relocation benefits equal to three months of fair market rent or $7,000 whichever is greater when there's a qualifying relocation event such as an eviction.

In state law the Tenant Protection Act of 2019 requires that a landlord have a just cause to bring about a residential eviction one of these just causes that a landlord can cite for terminating a tenancy is that they plan to substantially remodel a unit This state law also allows local jurisdictions to pass their own just cause eviction ordinances so long as that they are more protective than what exists in state law.

And lastly, I'll also mention that the preservation of affordable housing stock is a policy of the Board of Supervisors in the housing element dating back to 1993. Now I'll pass it to Jordan to talk a little bit about the proposed Just Cause Ordinance.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed9:42

Thank you. Thank you, Spencer. Hello everyone, Jordan Killebrew. So proposed Just Cause requirements. We're looking at an ordinance modeled off of a recent action by the City of Santa Barbara. We are requiring that landlords to demonstrate good faith. We also looking at landlords must provide early notice to tenants of plans to perform a substantial remodel, obtain all necessary permits prior to giving tenants a notice of termination of tenancy And serve tenants a copy of all permits, the scope of work to be performed and why the word cannot be completed in a safe manner while it's still occupies the unit.

The board to consider the following adopt an urgency ordinance requiring just cause for residential evictions to be effective immediately or alternately. Considered the introduction 1st, reading of an ordinance requiring just cause for residential evictions and set a hearing date to consider adoption on April 18 2023. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role10:47

We'll have some board questions but one thing that struck me in meeting the language, the requirements go down and one of the requirements is giving notice. One of the requirements is obtaining permits from the relevant authority which would be the county. Is this something, the meeting these requirements, is it something that is concurrent or would the permits have to be obtained before the notice? Or would the permits need to be obtained by the expiration of the notice?

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8811:24

This is a question for County Council, of course.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role11:32

But I will give time and I'm happy to have if there's other questions we could go over those first.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed11:39

Mr. Chair members of the board on the current language of the ordinance requires that the permits already be obtained at the time of the notice because this section says that the tenants would be served with a copy of the permits along with their written notice stating the reason for termination

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role11:54

And that also would be the case in this draft of our urgency update, correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed12:02

Mr. Chair, both the urgent draft urgency ordinance and the standard ordinance contain the same language.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role12:07

Thank you. That's helpful. Other questions from the board? Supervisor Caps.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8812:15

I just want to thank you first, Chair Williams for being such a strong partner on this item. To the teams also to County Council and to the public comment those of you who showed up two days ago gave the most powerful public comment that I've experienced in my time in public service. Just to set the stage a little bit here as we know on March 16th each of of the 264 units at CBC and the sweeps received a notice of termination.

And just to talk about what this is, this isn't just... This is a lot more than just about one housing complex. This is about the rents here in Santa Barbara which we know are the highest across the country for any small city. This is about probably 800 people, not just a few but 800 people. This is about multi-generational families living at the sweeps at CBC raising their children. When we were there, we saw tricycles. We saw sand pails. This is about hardworking people, students who just because of the system rarely catch a fair break This is about the fact that rents have more than doubled in the past two decades, far surpassing incomes.

This is about an out-of-state and out of touch landlord who fails to understand the community even just as example failing to provide these notices in any language other than English. And again this this is about exploitation so what I'm really Thankful to the team, to everybody who advocated for this is that we are today doing everything we can to be as bold and proactive as we can about these tenants but about all tenants in Santa Barbara County. This is about who we are as a community and I just want to again thank you before we get into all the questions about the technicalities. Thank You Chair Williams

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role14:16

Thank you, I think that's good because typically what we do in our business is give a board letter that gives the intent behind an item and so partially you're in my charge. And I will just say, I had a deeply disturbing meeting yesterday with someone who was well-intended, wanted to make some things better but his background was as a real estate investor and he said it is precisely the fact that you guys, meaning not just the county but our whole area does not produce enough rental housing that gives a chance for people in my industry to essentially take advantage of the system and squeeze people out if there was enough housing People would have alternatives and these people have no alternatives because there is not adequate rental housing out there.

And it gives a chance for people who are not thinking of their ethical responsibility for the community to take advantage of that, to the maximum extent possible and to even in some cases not comply with our ordinance or other things that would further disadvantage renters, particularly renters if they did not have legal help or the county with them. And I want to say the county is with you.

It is our intent today to move as fast as we can to provide additional protections. You may not find the ordinance perfect in every way, this was happened about light speed for the county and so we attempted to do what we are certain we have legal justification to do and it is not all of the county's options which is why there is a closed session and why there are other options available.

Are there any other board questions before you move to public comment?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed16:38

Williams. Yes, thank you add a couple of questions. Is it possible for someone to do substantial

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8816:50

improvements without needing a permit?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed17:06

Mr. Chair, members of the board, Supervisor Nelson, whether or not work triggers a permit depends on the type of work that's done so there is work that can be done without a permit and so we would look to our building code and our zoning code whether or not a permit would be required for the work.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed17:26

I think the next question is what is the definition of substantial? Is it a dollar amount?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed17:39

Chair Williams and Supervisor Nelson, there's not a dollar amount set out. But substantial remodel means the replacement or substantial modification of any structural electrical plumbing or mechanical system that requires a permit or the abatement of hazardous materials including lead based paint mold or asbestos that cannot reasonably be accomplished in a safe manner with the tenant in place and that requires the tenant to vacate And state law sets out specifically that cosmetic improvements alone do not qualify a substantial rehabilitation. So this includes painting, decorating and minor repairs that could be safely performed without requiring the property be vacated.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role18:24

Supervisor Nelson I just wanted to add in the language it reads that justification for That the repairs would actually require an individual leaving for at least 30 days is one of the things steps asked for in the ordinance. So most repairs that do not require a permit would not require somebody to leave for at least 30 days.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed18:54

Chair William, where I was getting to is that it seems The, the owner of this property that in question has found a loophole. I'm just trying to find the potential loopholes for this discussion and give us all to have it, you know, the opportunity to potentially close those or better define those. And so that's why I'm bringing up the subject matter on whether there is still an opportunity for someone to Potentially not need a permit to do substantial renovation or not.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8819:26

I like how you're thinking.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed19:29

So, I mean, I get there but I'm trying to make better policy if you guys move so long. Absolutely. So the other question I had as well this. If an urgency ordinance is passed today will it apply to

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8819:44

CBC or the sweeps?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed19:55

Supervisor Nelson, I'm not sure that question was for. Could you please repeat it?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed20:00

Well, the reason why we potentially need an urgency ordinance is because there's something that's happened in Isla Vista with this. I think it's called a CVC property and the sweeps. And I was curious on whether the urgency ordinance would apply to that property now and to those tenants that are being evicted but just slow down the process of those

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed20:29

Supervisor Nielsen members of the board. The ordinance would apply if the urgency ordinance was adopted, it would be effective immediately. So for any notices that would be sent out after this, it would apply. If permits have not been received yet for that work then the property owner would need to obtain those permits prior to giving It's difficult without knowing all the facts, but yes it is possible that it would impact current events.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed21:07

So it would only impact those properties that have not yet received their notice? That they've already received a notice would not impact those parties

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role21:20

and their permits

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed21:21

because our current ordinance requires permits as well

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed21:27

Our current ordinance requires permits prior to. I thought that's what the question is. I'm sorry, I'm confused.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed21:40

Supervisor Nelson, members of the board. So the county has an existing ordinance on Chapter 44. It's been in place since 2011 which does require relocate three months of relocation payments or $7000 whichever is greater and that does apply when an owner gives notice for substantial rehabilitation includes obtaining a permit so So that ordinance is already in place and would apply as long as it qualifies. There's various reasons that it can apply, and if it's triggered then that would apply already.

This new urgency ordinance is adding additional requirements for just cause as well as adding additional protections Depending on the circumstance. So, for instance, if it's in the case of a substantial remodel then we're adding additional protections and additional steps that an owner would need to take.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed22:42

But this is prospectively not retrospective.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed22:46

Supervisor Nelson members of the board? Yes, that's correct.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed22:50

And my last question as far as these permits that are concerned these are just building permits. These would be Ministerial permits or over-the-counter permits, or would these be discretionary permits that would be needed for substantial improvement?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed23:11

Supervisor Nelson, members of the board. Again it depends on the type of work that an owner is proposing but typically these would be building permits but it's possible that an owner could seek different types of permits for the work.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed23:26

They'd be building permits that would not be subject to appeal.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed23:33

Mr Chair and Supervisor Nelson, members of the board, I believe what you said is that it would be permits that were not subject to appeal? Is that correct?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed23:43

Yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed23:47

We would need a double check. I believe that a building permit although its ministerial is appealable Thank you. Any other questions from the board?

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8824:26

I do have one Chair Williams. I just, I do want to put out there that part of the perhaps it's a supervisor Nelson's questions part of the lay of the land here is that in this current situation different notifications are being given out on different days to different tenants and so there's confusion I believe as to how this could potentially apply today if we were to take action today because again that there is changing scenarios literally as we were meeting on Tuesday different notifications were being sent out. So I'm hopeful that what we do here today will have an impact.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed25:04

One last question, Chair Williams? Yes,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed25:06

Supervisor Nelson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed25:08

And I probably should know this off the top of my head but an urgency ordinance, how long does that last? Is it 12 months 18 months?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed25:20

Members of the board and supervisor Nelson. So there's multiple types of urgency ordinances, so there is a type of urgency ordinance which is zoning ordinance, which does have time limits, which I think is what you're referring to initially, there's a period of time and then it gets renewed and extended Does that answer your question, Supervisor Nelson?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed26:04

Yeah, and again as I mentioned before, I'm not sure if I'm going to get to the point to be able to support. There's the ordinance, but if we do go down that route. Um, I just want to put out there that I would need to see an end date so that we could actually have a hearing on. Potential impacts of this long term and look at some of those things here from other stakeholders on this. You know, this is obviously rushed and I understand why? And I'm very sympathetic to why.

So. You know, I'm just putting that out there. I would not be okay with it being indefinite. I think you need to hear from economists and other parties that there's potential impacts of these types of ordinances that might have unintended consequences. And I'm not today prepared to adopt something that would be indefinite And I think I would need some more time and I hope that we would go down that route if, in fact, I can be there. For the public's benefit, I do have a limited time that I'll be here today and I will try to hang on as long as I can but I had previous commitments prior to this special meeting being called.

So I will try to be here to the better end if necessary but I may have to depart.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role27:24

Thank you, Supervisor Nelson. And then I'll try to get to public comment quickly so we can make sure that people can stay. To reinforce the points made by Supervisor Capps it is our intention today to do more than just make a We have a symbolic statement in support of the tenants of the of the sweeps. we want to make sure that you know that Defenses, tools within the unfortunate confines of established law. Those defenses are not perfect but would be a substantial benefit over and above our current ordinance.

Let's go to public comment.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed28:20

Supervisor and members of the board. I just wanted to clarify one thing in response to super a not supervisor Nelson's comments And that is that your board has discretion although the urgency is Ordinance is currently set up to be indefinite The board does have discretion to set a date that which would end when we and the board has done that before with urgency ordinances

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role28:44

Thank you Let's move to public comment. I won't put limits on it above the three minutes, but I'll just ask you to try to do two minutes or as close to two minutes as possible because we do have supervisors that have some time constraints and we will not be able to pass this if more than one leaves so I just will Ask you to make your own judgments with that in mind.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.9129:23

So this does require a four-fifths vote, correct? Emergency.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed29:30

Supervisor Labadino, yes to pass the urgency ordinance it requires a four-fifths vote. You're also agendized alternatively to consider a standard ordinance and that's a majority vote.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role29:46

Please proceed with public comment.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role29:48

Chair Williams and members of the board, we have 48 requests to speak on this item.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role29:53

So I will close the roll so to speak for further public comment.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role29:59

And we will begin on Zoom with Connie Alexander to be followed by Krista Conroy. Connie?

CommentConnie AlexanderProposed30:08

Ah, good morning supervisors Connie Alexander with the Santa Barbara NAACP. And I want to thank you for this hearing this morning so that we could have a little more time to hear the background which i think is essential but I want to address why sometimes people would say what premise are you the board acting on because sometimes it is those premises of what lays behind everything That we just need to make sure are forward. And so I want to encourage you that you are in effect, addressing something that is systemic racism because if you think about what that is it happens systemic racism happens when institutions and government support oppression and discrimination through policies. And so I appreciate the fact that this is an opportunity for you to address that directly.

This phrase in here, just cause has become an active loophole obviously which does lend itself towards past things that have happened to people of color. Redlining has been a horrible part of the history of things that have happened in Santa Barbara County. I'm encouraging you to send a very clear message here, that in this county we're not going to support and actively support the discrimination of a group of people. In this case it is overwhelmingly going to impact communities of color and families when you think about the fact that they would have to come up with between eight and $10,000 to relocate, that reinforces what is systemic racism? So thank you this morning and I'll end my comments there. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role31:55

We will now go to Krista Conroy, to be followed by Shondell Malcolm. Krista?

CommentKrista ConryProposedself-stated32:04

Thank you, Supervisors. And thank you for the opportunity to be heard today. My name is Krista Conry. I'm an attorney with Housing & Economic Rights Advocates. We're a California statewide nonprofit that assists and advocates for residential tenants And I'm here to call on the supervisors to make any urgency ordinance requiring additional steps of an owner before recovering possession for a substantial remodel that any ordinance such as this apply to each stage of the eviction process, including to the recovery of possession through an unlawful detainer.

Right now and without applying the ordinance, an urgency ordinance in such a way to any stage of the recovery of possession process, including the unlawful detainer. Most of the 800 plus tenants at CBC in the sweeps will not be protected because many of them, in fact all of them have already received notices and it's very likely that this ordinance will not assist them without applying to again all the stages of a landlord's attempt to recover possession of a property.

And I will just share an echo Some colleagues who will speak today and who have already spoken that in working with some of these tenants and beginning to assist them, a huge group of them are families with children, persons with disabilities, persons of color, low-income individuals. Many are Section 8 voucher holders who will face unique systemic discrimination in finding any other housing options despite the fact that it's already very difficult to find any affordable housing In the county, these tenants will face a uniquely challenging prospect of finding anything that could replace the homes that they already have.

It will be a potentially insurmountable hurdle that could lead many of them to homelessness. So I echo the calls that the county should take action today to protect not just prospectively all future tenants in Santa Barbara County who might Receive substantial remodel eviction notices, but to those who've already received them. Otherwise there's a humanitarian crisis that could occur in the county. Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role34:35

We will now excuse me we will now go to Shondell Malcolm to be followed by Leanna DeSerato.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8834:49

Good morning, and thank

CommentShondell MalcolmProposed34:50

you County Board of Supervisors. I am a tenant who recently received an eviction notice. My landlord gave me the eviction notice with the intent of doing a substantial remodel in my case. The contractor said that the work can be done with me being in the house. However, the owner is not going to allow me to return to the house. So the impact this has had on me Is that my rent was $1,800 and I now had to rent a place for 3000. That's a 62% increase in my rental fees that I'm going to experience.

So there's a couple of things that I want to talk about and it's the. The rental in our county most places will not rent to you if the rent is over 30% of your income. And I live in Lompoc, so our income, the median income is $75,000. That means that most people in Lompoc can only afford to rent up to 800 or $1,875. So a $3,000 rent is way out of people's range for renting and what it's done is it's essentially taken a single family household and turned it into a multifamily household because that's the only way people can survive.

One of the other things how this has impacted me is, and I think Supervisor Nelson touched on this. I think it was him. The amount of money it takes to move into a place. So me moving into this new place that I'm living in, I had to come up with $8500 to move in. I do not have that money in my account so I had to borrow against my retirement In order to accomplish that, and it's a $10,000 loan at 8.75% for a 5 year term.

But my lease is only for a 1 year term. So if I have to move within that after that 1 year. I now have to come up with another. Moving costs and I'm already behind the curve ball on this. And this is what a lot of the residents in Santa Barbara County are facing. So I appreciate the fact that you guys are looking at this and you're taking it serious, and I support an emergency ordinance that will protect the Santa Barbara County residents. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role37:36

We will now go to Leanne, excuse me, Leanna Deserato to be followed by Elliot Hammond Leanna? Leanna, we have unmuted you on our end. If you can unmute to provide your comments. We will now go to Elliot Hammond to be followed by Kevin Goodwin.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8838:20

Can you hear me?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role38:21

Yes, we can. Elliot please proceed. Okay great

CommentElliott Hammond I'mProposedself-stated38:24

good morning supervisors my name is Elliott Hammond I'm here today as a member of the Santa Barbara Tenants Union and also as a tenant in District 2 where I was born and raised and have resided most of my life. I want to thank you for recognizing the urgency of the situation that course but excuse me core spaces residents and thousands of other tenants all over the county are facing with regard to these rent evictions and for acting swiftly to protect them from losing their homes.

As a tenant response team lead for the Santa Barbara Tenants Union, I co-facilitate a tenant help desk meeting every week on Zoom for our members and almost every week for the past two years we have new people on our call who are facing rent evictions and the rate at which we're seeing these cases has skyrocketed over the past six to 12 months As you know, landlords are taking advantage of the loophole and the California Tenant Protection Act and our Just Cause Ordinance to push out their long-term tenants to double or triple the rents.

All because they've learned that they will not be held accountable or face any repercussions for their actions. I urge you to pass this urgency ordinance today but only having incorporated the amendments that were suggested by Legal Aid Foundation so that there's protection for the CBC and the SWEAPS residents. An urgency ordinance that does not protect the residents in IV would be a failure of what you set out to do by having this meeting today is unacceptable to them.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8839:49

That's all I have for now, thank you so much.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role39:53

We will now go to Kevin Goodwin to be followed by Diana Collins-Puente. And Kevin, we have unmuted you on our end. If you can please unmute yourself to provide your comments?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed40:14

Thank you board. I appreciate the time to speak to you. My concern is for the smaller property owners not necessarily institutional property owners and the effects it will have on them in providing housing for our local community. I work with several people that own duplexes, triplexes, fourplexes This ordinance will make it difficult for them to continue to own those properties. I think both sides of this need to be looked at, and also the county needs to provide housing or other non-profits rather than pushing this on to private property owners.

I think a full analysis of this needs to be made prior to just enacting the rule to solve a specific problem, and it is a real problem that exists But it can't be made with sweeping action.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8841:10

Thank you for the time.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role41:17

My apologies, Diana is not here we will now go to Mayra Jimenez to be followed by Rochelle Sim. Mayra? We can hear you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed41:31

please

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role41:32

proceed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed41:34

Oh hi, yes. So right now at the time we're having problems with the owner of Sandpiper property he actually wants to rebuild some more apartments and wants to take out 28 spots for tenants and there's no parking in the west side so it's really hard for us to come home and not find parking and we just have till the 23rd

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8842:01

of this month where he's going to make those changes We

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role42:16

will now go to Rachel Sim followed by Lawanda Lyons-Pruitt. Rachel? Thank you.

CommentRachel Sim I'mProposedself-stated42:27

Hi, my name is Rachel Sim I'm a tenant in Santa Barbara and I'm calling to support passing the urgency ordinance with these suggested changes by the Legal Aid Foundation that are being circulated Uh, in order to protect tenants in and also tenants throughout the county that are facing or will face this kind of displacement which as Elliot mentioned is becoming increasingly common.

And I also add you urge you to add further amendments to strengthen the ordinance to ensure that it actually effectively protects tenants and other tenants in our community. Firstly landlords should not be allowed to remove tenants for cosmetic remodels. Tenants should only be required to leave their homes to remedy habitability concerns, which are already a landlord's responsibility. And I'd like to point out that that's one of the oft touted benefits of being a renter is that it is not supposed to be my responsibility to maintain the upkeep of my unit tenants also need to be provided with temporary alternative housing during the renovation and they deserve the right to return to the unit With the same lease terms, once the work is actually complete.

Anything else is just allowing landlords to neglect the units while continuing to collect our rent before evicting us and then raising the rent without any limits. Unscrupulous landlords will find any and all loopholes that they can to evict tenants and to raise the rent beyond what is sustainable? What is manageable? What is justifiable? And even what is in my opinion ethical I urge you to follow the lead of other jurisdictions and pass stronger protections for our community. In fact, five jurisdictions already do not allow for substantial remodel justified evictions at all. They only allow a landlord to evict in order to comply with the government order to vacate, abate or similar and we need these protections in Santa Barbara County to keep us safe and to keep our community vibrant.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role44:32

We will now go to Lawanda Lyons-Pruitt, to be followed by Ana Rosa Rizzo Centeno. Lawanda?

CommentLawanda Lyons-PruittProposed44:42

Good morning Chair Williams and Supervisors. And I apologize for my phone ringing. Lawanda Lyons Pruitt representing the Santa Maria Lombok branch of the NAACP. We want to thank you for taking the steps that you're taking today to protect the tenants in our county. If you do not take the steps that you're taking, we know that it harms our communities and so we really appreciate and families and will appreciate you taking that step. I was actually going to read the email that I received from Ms.

Shandell Macomb. But he appeared before you and spoke. But we think that the steps that you're taking, get paid early notice, obtaining permits prior to serving the unnoticed, those are all important. Thank you again and have a good day.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role45:48

I just want to use Lawanda's testimony as proof that you can get your ideas across in abbreviated form so just remember We need four of us to be able to stay here, to be able to vote on the ordinance today. Please proceed.

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CommentAna Rosa RizzoProposed46:12

Hello Board of Supervisors. I want to support the emergency ordinance and make sure that it actually applies to the residents that are currently being evicted. I represent the Central Coast Climate Justice Network, and just like we care about animals being able to stay in their environment, we should care about Black Indigenous people of color who are human beings staying in their environment because we are part of the environment. And this continues to happen All the time, there's been mass evictions that have happened before where we've come to the County Board of Supervisors and you all have done nothing in the past. So please take this as your opportunity to step up and actually stand against racism and stand for people being able to stay with their families in their communities Because as we know, currently people keep getting pushed out of these communities.

And when you talk about the Chicago Latino population specifically I believe it's a very high number, I think 70 over 70%. that have already been pushed out of this area. So do your job, represent the residents and make sure that this will actually help the people that are currently being faced with displacement. And I just want to thank the Santa Barbara Tenants Union so much for your work because I know it's not easy and I know that it's very heart-wrenching work when you see people being ripped from their communities, children that are used to playing in the places that they currently play with their friends that they currently play and to have to imagine a future without that. So thank you so much for your time and I do want to make sure that you all are able to get to a vote so I'll yield the rest of my time.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role48:03

We will now go to John Tyne to be followed by Linda Honigman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed48:11

Okay, good morning everybody. Thank you for the opportunity. I am an attorney here in town. I'm a real estate broker on the front lines that represent landlords and tenants in lawful detainer actions all the time. And I deal with the tenant Protection Act constantly. I echo my partner's comments earlier that I'm concerned about the effect that this has on smaller landlords. The owners of units one to four, and there are many examples throughout the law in California that treat owners of one to four properties differently from owners of properties that have more than four units. And I would encourage you to consider if not in this emergency action then at least in the ongoing ordinance an exemption for owners of 1-4 units that it not apply to the 1- 4 units because we're creating a disincentive to improving properties And quite honestly, the unintended consequences are removing properties from the rental stock and increasing rents.

And so I applaud you for making sure that this particular exemption is exercised in good faith by requiring the production permits. I think that's prescient and wise. But I do think that it would be also wise to exempt 1, 2, 4 units and to allow those smaller landlords. To continue to update their properties and keep them safe for tenants in the future. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role49:39

We will now go to Linda Honigman to be followed by C. M. Linda.

CommentLinda HonickmanProposedself-stated49:47

Thank you Supervisors. I'm Linda Honickman speaking as an individual resident of Nolita. On Tuesday, I spoke of the need to move the welcome mat from the investment companies with no ties to the community to local workers and families who contribute to our social fabric resiliency and economic vitality. What you do today can be the important 1st step of getting the word out across the country that we are no longer a place where easy money can be made at the expense of our residents.

Unless a new strong ordinance is adopted, there are likely to be many more apartment buildings coming to the area like those bought by Core Places and the company that sold the buildings to them, Essex Property Trust. They both highlight high investor returns on their website. Essex, which also offers a 4% dividend to stockholders Still owns a property in our area, according to their website. You can rent a 1 bedroom and hope ranch for 2748 but it is actually located north of the 101 and I would not be surprised to see that being renovated soon so those rents can be doubled.

For a more permanent solution, we also need a rental database to track this and many other problems related to rent increases illegal short term rentals and fraud. We hope you'll act boldly enough today to get Wall Street Journal coverage. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role51:21

We will now go to CM to be followed by Ryan Bell see. Oh, you know what I believe we just see is no longer providing comment. We will now go to Ryan bell to be followed by Anna Marie got.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8851:46

Thank you

CommentBrian BellProposedself-stated51:46

supervisors my name is Brian Bell. I am actually a tenant in Los Angeles County, but I am the Southern California Regional Coordinator for Tenant Together which is a statewide coalition of tenant groups across the state of California. And I just wanted to provide my perspective across actually the whole state of California that we are seeing this kind of rent evictions as they're often called Especially where there are fewer tenant protections, such as in the Central Valley, the central coast and more rural areas of Southern California.

And I'm just calling today to urge support for this urgency ordinance along with the amendments provided by the Legal Aid Foundation. We need to make sure that this ordinance applies to these tenants This is certainly in the county's interest to not create a huge crisis that would include homelessness. I would also urge the board to consider, in the future, the right to return for the tenants that are displaced for reasons such as renovation. It's not their fault that they're being displaced even though that renovation might be useful and important and essential. The tenant should have the right to return to their home once the renovation is done, as any homeowner would return to their home After renovation is done. I also want to briefly mention that I don't see any reason that small landlords should not have to pull permits before evicting tenants any differently than large landlords.

There are some cases where different protections should apply to small landlords and the large landlords, but in the case of pulling permits and demonstrating intent and good faith why would small landlords have one to four units not need to act in good faith just because they're small? I think all landlords should act in good faith towards their tenants so please Pass this ordinance today and make sure that it applies to the current tenants facing eviction in the ID. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role53:52

We will now go to Anna Marie Gott, be followed by Sharon Byrne, Anna. And we have unmuted you on our end if you can please unmute yourself to provide your comments.

CommentAnna Marie GottProposed54:14

Sorry about that. Board members, I fully support this urgency ordinance and I urge you to vote for an indefinite period of time or a minimum of 18 months which will give you any time to conduct more due diligence. I agree that the urgency ordinance should cover all stages of an eviction as outlined by the Legal Aid Foundation and hope you will consider including even stronger requirements I would like to the board to consider some additional actions. For example, can the board designate these and other properties with being within an affordable housing overlay if they have Section 8 or below market rentals?

If so wouldn't that provide additional protections moving forward? Can the board prevent large apartment buildings from renovating the entire building at a single time? If so, wouldn't it be great if we could only allow large apartment owners to only evict maybe 10 or 15% of the apartment occupants at a time. Next, can the board consider voting to increase the amount paid if If tenants are evicted, $7000 simply is not enough money.

You should be having a minimum of $7,000 per person or increasing that to something like $25,000 considering what the rents are and how long people are living in some of these units. Finally, many homes in Santa Barbara County have been turned into illegal short-term vacation rentals as well as permitted short-term vacation rentals. And I think that the board does need to do more to not only shut down the illegal short-term vacation rentals permanently but also to amend the current ordinance to prohibit them. Thank you very much.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role56:33

We will now go to Sharon Byrne to be followed by Alex Entrekin. Sharon? Sharon, we have unmuted you on our end if you can please unmute yourself to provide your comments. Sharon Byrne, if you can please unmute yourself to provide your comments. We will now go to Alex and truck in to be followed by Stephen craft here in Santa Barbara. Alex, unfortunately it looks like you are not connected to a microphone. I'm unable to allow you to talk.

If you can please call in or if you have any questions about how to connect, you can call my office at area code 805-568-2240. Again that's 805 568 2240. We are now going to Santa Barbara with Steven Kraft who I believe might have stepped out of the room And is no longer with us, so we will now go to Jean Zeebach to be followed by Amanda Zavala. Jean?

CommentJean ZeebachProposed58:02

Hi I'm a homeowner in Santa Barbara. And I do agree with the emergency ordinance, which would include IV residents. And I feel that the tenants should be provided housing while this is going on and they should be able to come back with their original, what's it called? Yeah, the rent contract. Yes, the rent contract. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role58:42

We will now go to Amanda Zavala to be followed by Brian Johnson. Amanda?

CommentAmanda ZavalaProposedself-stated58:49

Hello, good morning. Thank you for having me. My name is Amanda Zavala. I'm a long-term renter in Santa Barbara. During the course of the pandemic, Santa Barbara saw massive influx of high earning remote workers as well as tremendous inflation to the housing market. Rents have doubled since 2020 but wages have increased marginally or stayed the same. Local long-term Santa Barbara community members are being pushed out with rapid precision as landlords capitalize on the new markets and take advantage of rent evictions. Minor renovations are being used as a guise for gargantuous rental increases.

Teachers, service workers, hospitality workers, landscaping workers and other public servants are being pushed out and commuting farther and farther to continue to keep Santa Barbara afloat. Families' lives are disrupted and Santa Barbara is drained of its cultural and longstanding communities As an education worker, I see the violent impacts of childhood housing insecurity every single day.

We need to protect our local residents and preserve the diverse community that constitutes Santa Barbara by banning rent evictions indefinitely. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role59:55

We will now go to Brian Johnson to be followed by Nannie Harris

CommentBrian JohnsonProposed1:00:05

Good morning and thank you for taking this up. I appreciate the Board of Supervisors for considering this, speaking on behalf of the Santa Barbara Association of Realtors. I'm not going to defend what's gone on in Isla Vista there's no defense for it however as written this ordinance would apply a large relocation assistance payment to any housing provider of two or more units to ask mom-and-pop owner To pay three times the rent or $7,000 whichever is greater could put a huge burden on them. And while we understand the need to help those in apartments in Isla Vista and we certainly support that the passing of this ordinance would apply to all apartments and all no fault just cause evictions not just to evictions due to renovations so that seems to be that's a real concern for us And so if the ordinance is passed, we would ask that there was a specific time frame involved, a specific location involved.

Apply to complexes of five or more units or it should go through the normal process for more stakeholder input and with that thank you very much.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:01:09

We will now go to Nannie Harris to be followed by Barbara Parment.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:01:13

And Manny just want to reiterate our rules here. Except when it's a ceremonial item like the presentation or a proclamation. We don't allow clapping or Booing, because we are a republic. We need to hang together and maybe I'm just gonna use this as a moment to point out that sometimes sides that will be on sort of different sides today may be on the same side to produce more affordable housing in the future. So please proceed with public comment.

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CommentNani HarrisProposedself-stated1:01:53

Hello again, my name is Nani Harris. I am a tenant in the Sweeps. I spoke before you previously on Tuesday regarding my situation and I would first like to thank you for holding this special meeting and treating our situation with such urgency. I would like to emphasize that as a Section 8 participant myself, I know firsthand that should these renovations happen voucher holders many of whom are elderly disabled and people of color will be thrust into a housing market that is discriminatory.

It is not right to displace low-income tenants especially those of us who belong to protected classes for the sake of renovations that have nothing to do with habitability concerns If you care about the people in your districts, this ordinance must be passed. Please act to protect the most vulnerable members of our community. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:02:40

We will now go to Barbara Permette to be followed by Sam Sesbease.

PresenterBarbara ParmetSurge Santa BarbaraProposedself-stated1:02:47

Thank you, board. My name is Barbara Parmet and I'm representing Surge Santa Barbara. We show up for racial justice and we stand with the tenants of Santa Barbara County and implore the county Board of Supervisors to pass an emergency ordinance immediately to stop this violence of mass evictions by core space. The unconscionable corporate cruelty of real estate firms must be stopped For a multi-billion dollar real estate firm like CoreSpace to simply calculate the cost benefit analysis of throwing out onto the street as many as 800 people, including students, families with children, people with disabilities and Section 8 tenants is a kind of violence that should be declared immoral and illegal.

You have the power and the responsibility to declare immediately a moratorium on mass evictions. Ban these rent evictions for all landlords. Vote for an emergency ordinance today. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:03:52

We will now go to Sam Sazpeze, to be followed by Nadia Abushanab. Sam?

CommentSam SipesiProposedself-stated1:04:06

Hi, my name is Sam Sipesi and as I previously mentioned I'm a first generation non-traditional UCSB student and a tenant at CBC in the Sweeps. This is my third time speaking to you in hopes that we can show you how dire our situation is. In order to move into most apartment complexes you must show that your income is three times the rent which means if you are lucky enough to find a place $2,500 probably north or south of Santa Barbara many places will request bank statements and months worth of pay stubs showing that you make at least ninety thousand dollars a year for a one bedroom apartment Even though my partner works 50 to 60 hours a week, if I don't postpone my graduation we'd be homeless.

I want you to understand that I'm one of the lucky ones here. Most people living here don't have the option of moving to another city or taking out loans to pay absurd rent amounts. Keep in mind there was never a claim from CBC and The Sweeps that renovation was necessary until they sold the complex to Core Spaces. I've talked to people in every building here. I've gone door-to-door learning their stories and witnessing their pain. If you don't pass a law ending these rent evictions, you force people to either leave the county or become homeless which will have a snowball effect on many small businesses in Santa Barbara as people can no longer afford to live off minimum wage. You can put a stop to this. Stop allowing evictions to take place without proof of permits.

Stop allowing landlords the ability to simply get rid of tenants so that they can make more money by increasing rent for future tenants And if there is an actual reason tenants need to temporarily vacate, landlords should be required to house these tenants and pay the rental expenses until the work is completed. And they should be able to return to their apartments at the original rent. We elected you to stand up for us and represent us, and we can't afford to wait any longer. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:05:46

We will now go to Nadia Abushanab, to be followed by Fernando Cortez. Nadia?

CommentNadia AbushanabProposedself-stated1:05:51

Good morning Chair Williams and Supervisors. My name is Nadia Abushanab with SB CAN. Thank you for hearing us and acting so quickly. I urge you to pass the urgency ordinance before you today provided that it contains the recommendations listed in the legal aid public comment letter. To be clear, without those recommended changes the ordinance would not be sufficient to protect tenants at risk today.

I also urge you to direct staff to consider additional amendments at another time that would further strengthen the ordinance including not allowing renovations for cosmetic remodels providing temporary housing for tenants during the renovations and giving tenants a right to return Once the work is complete with the same lease conditions, these rules are common sense. They exist in other jurisdictions and we should have them here as well.

I'm a tenant in the First District. I live on the Lower West Side in the City of Santa Barbara and last year I experienced a rent eviction. I had been living living in a limited equity affordable housing cooperative. The only one I know of on in the city of Santa Barbara ended up selling our home to a private landlord. When it was time to renew the lease, the landlord decided instead to kick us out to do renovations. I was lucky enough to have friends with a room opening that I was able to move into and that's where I live now but most of my housemates were not. We all had college degrees. One of my housemates was working as a wildland county firefighter, one was an environmental consultant, one was working as an engineer for FLIR in Goleta and none of them were able to find a place to live in Santa Barbara.

I went back to that house recently and now it's rented out to SBCC International students with multiple tenants living in each room. The walls were painted, there was a new sink in the kitchen and there was new landscaping done. We could have easily stayed in the house when he did those changes. This is about enforcing a common sense law and holding landlords accountable to what they are claiming that they will do, and what they're supposed to do already. Not letting them claim to renovate simply to raise the rent more than the allowed 10% a year which is already so much.

I was lucky to find a place I can afford in the community where I work But my housemates and I, in our new home are concerned every day that this could happen to us again. It keeps us from reporting issues to the landlord in fear that they would decide to terminate our lease and raise the rent because we are paying below market value even though many of my housemates still struggle to make rent payments each month. This instability causes constant fear and stress. I love this community. I love the work that I do. I love living in this county and I do not want to leave, but if my landlord were to do rent evictions, I would likely have to move out of this community again. Please pass this urgency ordinance today and work on an even stronger ordinance to prevent this from happening to others in the future.

Thank you. We will now go to

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:08:41

Fernando Cortez to be followed by Arsley Vasquez. Fernando?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:08:46

I did want to note, just because it's been mentioned some several times the amendments and thank you to Ms. Abushina for putting well the value of the changes today versus the previous ordinance. But we will put the amendments that are being suggested. Some of the amendments that were suggested in the letter are already incorporated in this draft, some are not and we will put them all on the screen by the end of public comment so they can be in the record and debated today.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:09:21

Good morning Supervisors, my name is Fernando and I am a current tenant at CBC in the sweeps and a full time worker. And we are just the latest target of these run evictions. Thank you again for holding this special meeting and showing us that you are taking this crisis seriously. And I appreciate the time that you allowed us all to speak to you on Tuesday on how taking action would prove to us that the law could be on our side. And actually last night, I did send you all an email. I didn't think that I'd be able to get the time off work to be here and I hope that you still take the time to read my thoughts on how failing to take action would promote the predatory nature of wealthy landlords and corporations. And it will also prove their indifference to our community's livelihoods is acceptable in Santa Barbara and the greater county.

With that, I again urge you all to pass legislation to stop this rent eviction and prevent these crimes from causing irreparable damage to our most vulnerable community members. Tenants should be provided temporary housing while they're being rent evicted and these tenants should also have the right to return to their homes with the same lease terms and rents once the work is complete And after all, Coorspaces themselves should support this idea because they printed on our notices that they can't wait or that they quote can't wait to share with you what we have planned for the property and hope that you will consider returning once the renovations are complete. So Coorspaces let's see if you mean that. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:10:52

We will now go to Arsley Vasquez to be followed by Chelsea Lancaster.

CommentRaleigh Vasquez JimenezProposedself-stated1:11:02

Hello, good morning. My name is Raleigh Vasquez Jimenez I am here on representation of myself my family and my baby. I am a full-time student. I'm a single mom and I work up to two jobs. I can't afford three times the rent. I live with my family to be able to make ends meet. I can't even see my child some days.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:11:21

The only time I see her is when she comes eat at the restaurant. How am I supposed to overcome this? If

CommentRaleigh Vasquez JimenezProposedself-stated1:11:35

I can't make ends meet, I can't afford to live out. Out of this community, it became family. My child plays with our neighbors and not just me but our neighbors work up to two jobs to make ends meet and they live with other family members and they can't afford to make three times the rent? How are we supposed to live in the land of the free when it's costing us so much?

I work two jobs, I go to school how am I supposed to empower myself? How am I supposed to overcome this when I can't even see my child a lot I need help. All these family members need help. I'm scared I'm going to be homeless with my child, not just me so many families are. I don't want to get separated from my mom from my child. I don't want to leave school.

We need your help. Imagine this was your family imagine you were in our situation these people don't care about us all they care about is making money Of what? Other international students, other people who can't afford this. I can't afford this. I can't afford to lose my home. I can't afford to lose school. How am I supposed to make more money if they're taking my education? They're taking time for my child.

Not just me but everybody else. This is a crisis that has been going on for years and we don't get the help that we need Yet there's multiple homeless people that are getting tickets for being homeless. How can you guys help us if we're screaming for help every day? How are we supposed to come out of poverty when we're stuck in the same level every time I'm a first generation college student, I'm single mom, I am working two jobs and now facing this.

I'm not going to be quiet no more. And so do these families. We don't want to be separated. I can't have my three-year-old living in the street. I can't. So please, please take this into consideration that it's not just me. It's thousands of people, people with disability, color, race, everything. It's not just about money anymore. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:13:59

We will now go to Chelsea Lancaster to be followed by Madeline Miller. Chelsea?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:14:09

I said a lot the other day and I want to cede my time for others, but Areli is one of my students. And I just want to amplify the fact that this has been going on for so long. This is destroying our community. This is destroying our county and the people of Core Spaces and all these corporate landlords, they don't care about us. They don't care about you. This is about profit over people As you named the other day, this is the largest mass eviction in the state of California.

Take action. I don't have my glasses so I can't read the talking points but I want to amplify what's been said especially by the attendance union in terms of including the modifications from legal aid. Again, the most bold action possible and I also want to amplify the points made by Ms. Connie Alexander and others when we think about the law, the law has not always been just The law has uplifted and supported the ruling class. We are asking you for real bold protections, for support, to actually represent the people who live in your community who are in this room, who are on Zoom, who are working, who cannot be here.

Because they are working in your restaurants, taking care of your children in your childcare facilities. Teaching the children at our schools. Working at our hospitals. We saw it during the mudslide. This community does not function because people cannot live where they work. So I just want to again implore you to take this boldest action possible if there needs to be a short-term solution and that we continue to build on long term solutions. We're here for the long haul. Thank you so much.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:15:53

We will now go to Madeline Miller to be followed by John Douglas. Madeline?

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CommentMadeline MillerProposedself-stated1:16:02

Hello, thank you for having us today. My name is Madeline Miller and I'm here today because I think that we have a moral responsibility to protect each other. The homelessness crisis in this county does not exist because of the lack of available housing. It exists because there's not enough protections against excessively high rents and the renovations happening in order to facilitate that.

The issue around eviction is an issue of safety Today we are asking you to do your civic duty like any firefighter or EMT. You must protect the people of this county from homelessness and displacement. Renters are not asking for your pity, they're asking to continue to pay rents, to continue to struggle in their own home, in their own community, to continue to fight for their right to try to make their lives more livable in this county. You have to protect that the people of this county from the rent evictions. Thank you

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:16:50

We will now go to John Douglas, to be followed by Max Golding. John?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:16:56

Thank you. Thank you supervisors for taking this so seriously by giving us an opportunity to be heard. I just want to say please do pass a strong ordinance with real teeth for enforcement and if you could, I just want to agree with the folks that have said And I think it's important to recognize that. Tenants should have a right to return if are kicked out due to renovation of some sort and it should apply to all landlords thank you very much for letting me speak.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:17:35

We will now go to Max

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed1:17:46

Max, we don't have provisions for seating time. Whatever you pass today has to protect the course basis tenants if it doesn't this is not a code red that's a toothless virtue signal on your part so actually make sure it protects the course basis tenants and that's it.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:18:13

I want to thank Max for being the first one of many to contact me and make sure that we were equipped to respond.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:18:24

And we will now go to Frank Rodriguez, to be followed by Max Aguilar. And for whoever just came into the room and previously signed up on Zoom can you please go to the back table and speak with Leah to let them know? Thank you.

PresenterFrank RodriguezCentral Coast Alliance United for Sustainable Economy cause and also a residentProposedself-stated1:18:40

Thank you Supervisor Williams and County Board. My name is Frank Rodriguez with the Central Coast Alliance United for Sustainable Economy cause and also a resident of District two here in the county, we appreciate the push for an emergency ordinance, I think all the stories have really been uplifted on Tuesday and today. And a reminder that these kind of mass evictions have been happening. We've seen it so much in the west side, I faced it when my family moved from Ivy to Santa Barbara Carpinteria and to know that we really need to look at these loopholes and how landlords are taking advantage of it to evict our community.

So we want the emergency ordinance to really focus on protecting the tenants in East La Vista and other tenants facing eviction today so they are protected, but that this conversation continues and we look at all the available tenant protections which includes evictions that are happening because of rent increases and making sure we look at all the ways that we can protect the tenants not only We will now go to Max Aguilar to be followed by Jonathan Abboud.

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CommentMarcos AguilarProposedself-stated1:20:13

Good morning Supervisors. My name is Marcos Aguilar, I tried to spell that correctly. Anyways, I'm thankful that you all called this meeting urgently and are taking action on this and I want to save time so I just fully support this ordinance and the additions made by the Legal Aid Foundation. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:20:32

We will now go to Jonathan Abboud to be followed by Ethan Bertrand.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed1:20:39

Yes, I thank you board for having this special meeting and urgency ordinance. I spoke last on Tuesday feels like a lot longer ago shared my piece so thank you for considering this and I hope you pass this with the legal aid amendments. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:20:56

We will now go to Ethan Bertrand to be followed by Alex Sandoval Ethan

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed1:21:03

Thank you. Good morning, Chair Williams and honorable supervisors. It's good to be back with you here today. I'm proud to represent Isla Vista as the Goleta School Board member for Area 5. I speak on my own behalf today. I urge your board to pass the proposed urgency ordinance adding Article 4 to Chapter 44. This will provide critical protections and assistance to our neighbors who are threatened by rent evictions.

I urge you to do everything possible to make sure that this amendment provides relief to the up to 1,000 residents whose lives are being adversely impacted by the actions of core spaces. It is absolutely soul crushing to recognize that 1000 of my neighbors are likely to be displaced at a time when we have the most unforgiving rental housing market. As a school board member, my heart breaks for the children who live at CBC and The Sweeps along with their parents.

The thought of kids being displaced not only from their homes but also from their school communities is absolutely devastating. Many residents will struggle to find new housing not only in Isla Vista but anywhere on the South Coast. Relocation assistance could make this task a little less daunting I've had the privilege of living in Isla Vista for nine years now, and I really mean it when I say privilege because it is so hard to maintain housing in this community especially for young people and working families.

In addition to passing these protections our local governments and UCSB must move forward with meeting our housing goals. Thank you to Supervisor Capps and Chair Williams for spearheading this ordinance and I urge the board's support thank you

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:22:50

We will now go to Alex Sandoval to be followed by Jennifer Smith. Alec?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed1:22:58

Good morning, Supervisors. Thank you for calling this special meeting. We've heard a lot of eloquent speakers today and I will keep it brief. I just urge you to take actions that will support the people who have already been given eviction notices at the sweeps Don't allow, please don't be cowardly and allow small little problems to stop you from protecting children and people who have been given eviction notices. Don't get hung up on one to four units versus a bigger apartment building. Please don't get hung up on these little things and allow for children to get evicted in the meantime. Please protect them. Please protect these tenants. Thank you for your time.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:23:48

We will now go to Jennifer Smith to be followed by Ben Allen, Jennifer.

PresenterJennifer Smithat the Legal Aid Foundation of Santa Barbara CountyProposedself-stated1:23:54

Hi good morning my name is Jennifer Smith and I'm the executive director at the Legal Aid Foundation of Santa Barbara County. And I just wanted to focus on the fact that we do believe that amendments are needed to clarify that the urgency ordinance is perspective and perspective to all stages of recovery of possession of the unit. So, the way the eviction process works is that typically a notice goes out first and then later down the line a landlord may file a lawsuit in court get a court judgment and then that judgment may be enforced by the sheriff.

So because tenants have already received notices we just wanted to be sure that the urgency ordinance would apply to the subsequent unlawful detainers if they are filed. So just wanted to be sure that that language is included, and I believe my colleague shared some additional suggestions as well. I would also suggest that a lot of jurisdictions will do parallel tracks so you could pass an urgency ordinance and then continue on with a regular ordinance for additional You know enhancements and feedback from the community.

If that is the board's choice so really I also wanted to address there were some comments. about how this will impact landlords. This ordinance as it's drafted is really meant to enhance what's already existing, the Tenant Protection Act passed in 2019 so those of us who work in housing and eviction matters this has been the policy for several years as well as the county's current relocation assistance ordinance has been on for many years as well And the proposal is meant to ensure that landlords are acting in good faith.

So for those who are already acting in good faith, the status quo will just continue it doesn't impact those who are already acting in good faith. So thank you for your attention to this important matter on a personal note. I'm a former resident of Isla Vista myself, it's a community I really care about and I want to thank you for your urgent action as well as to County Council's office for all of their work in this effort as well. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:26:20

We will now go to Ben Allen to be followed by Anaya Kepper.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed1:26:33

Hello. I think it gives us all heart to hear that we have support on the Board of Supervisors, but I have to say that this is just a speed bump for the larger corporations. I mean they have all the resources that they need to prosecute these things you know go through the motions and get it done regardless of the legislation that you know provides mild protections to, it just gives notice and stuff like that's not fundamental solution to the issue. So although this is a good start there is so much more that needs to be done and I think you know many people have spoken much more passionately than maybe I ever could about this.

behooves all of us to consider a deeper and more systemic solution to this problem. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:27:37

We will now go to Anaya Kepper, to be followed by Kenny Chisholm. Anaya?

CommentAnanya KepperProposedself-stated1:27:47

Hi there, my name is Ananya Kepper I stood here on Tuesday as well. I'm one of the CBC sweeps residents that will lose her home if this eviction goes through. First I want to say thank you so much for holding this meeting it makes me feel really proud to be part of the Santa Barbara community and makes me feel very protected and heard by a government body which that's the first time in my life I've experienced this so thank you.

I wanted to say that there are many things that I can say about my personal feelings, about this company coming in and buying my home and developing it and charging a lot more. But something that I don't think has been spoken to yet is that if the community workers that keep Santa Barbara and Goleta and Ivy running are forced out of their homes, that decreases the value of Santa Barbara homes We're looking at increases in homelessness, we're looking at increases in traffic. If our day-to-day workers have to commute in for an hour every day you're looking at massive increases in traffic. I was born in Santa Monica and I watched that happen to my community.

You can't leave. You get stuck, it takes you two hours to get out of Santa Monica now because everyone that was an essential worker that works in Santa Monica can no longer afford to live there and that's what we're doing to Santa Barbara. I'm watching people get evicted from their homes and set up tents on the streets and i don't want that to happen to Santa Barbara. We have a beautiful community, we don't need to court homelessness like that It's also extremely important that we prioritize residents over these corporations because residents are more vulnerable.

If you lose your residence, they can't afford to come back. There's no safety net for them. A multi-billion dollar corporation can afford to wait a couple years to build their development. If it's really that important to them, they have the money to wait. We don't have that money. If we lose our homes, we're gone. We're on the street. We have to leave. We cannot come back.

There's also this perception that Isla Vista is a college town, and Core Spaces is operating under that assumption. They develop student housing. That means that whatever they develop is going to mean losing our long-term residents and our families and our people that have been here for decades, for generations are going to get kicked out of their homes in favor of students I would also like to say that my unit doesn't need renovation.

My house is beautiful. I moved in to new floors, new carpets, new paint. Everything was up-to-date. Everything is beautiful. It doesn't need to change. I can't think what they would do to renovate my unit. So it seems false that they need to do these massive renovations. They certainly don't need to do it in my home. Thank you. That is your time.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:31:03

We will now go to Kenny Chisholm to be followed by Amanda Cobb.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 21Proposed1:31:18

Hello County Supervisors, thank you for your time. My name is Kenny and I'm a tenant in the City of Santa Barbara. I don't necessarily have an issue with everyone who does property management for a living. For those privileged enough to own property it's not impossible to offer reasonable rents, to make timely repairs, and to otherwise make a good faith effort to ensure that their tenants have secure safe and affordable housing.

I do have a problem with there not being policies in place to protect vulnerable people from those property managers and property management companies that would forcibly remove someone or some family from their home under a shoddy guise of mandatory improvements, and then raise the rent out of reach for that same family to return to their home. To be pushed out into a housing market where the next cheapest option is nearly double the rent you were paying previously, is simply insane.

Such an option should not be possible for landlords to remove tenants for improvements and then not give them the opportunity to move back in with the same lease terms. Harmful policies like this don't have to be made by evil people or malintended in order to be racist. It matters what the real consequences are. And the real consequences are that rent evictions are disproportionately displacing people, families and whole communities of color at an unacceptable rate in Santa Barbara. And we cannot stand to oppose racism with our mouths and our mission statements but to let our own local communities of color be left away in the name of profit.

To respond to a previous comment even for landlords with less than five units it should not be too much to ask for them to obtain required building permits and to serve notices within a reasonable amount of time If something that basic can actually be considered a disincentive for people to manage properties, I don't know what level of work these smaller landlords are willing to do in order to take care of their tenants.

This is a realm in which poor business practices doesn't just mean less sales or lower profits. It means people ending up on the streets losing their homes, losing stability and that is absolutely unacceptable. We cannot let landlords try to reframe necessary accountability as victimization. I repeat, we cannot let landlords try to reframe necessary accountability as a victimization. They are not the victims in this context. Tenants are.

And to respond to another comment there is nothing but sweeping action today that can protect us tenants so please County Supervisors, I implore you to protect us by moving forward with this urgent ordinance and its amendments immediately. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:33:38

We will now go to Amanda Cobb to be followed by Christina Silvers. Amanda?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 22Proposed1:33:43

Hi, my name is Amanda and I am here representing Habitat for Humanity here in southern Santa Barbara County. I'm also personally a renter so I'm coming at it from both of those angles. First thank you so much for hosting this meeting on such short notice. I am here today to urge you to pass the proposed urgency ordinance with the Legal Aid Foundation amendments.

At Habitat, I work with low-income homeowners, a majority of whom are seniors on a very small fixed income. But they represent just a small fraction of those who are at risk of displacement in our community. Low-income renters are in the most precarious situation. 56% of renters in the county are cost burdened and cannot afford to lose their housing and face a rental market with rapidly rising rents.

To finish, I just want to express my support for the Tenants Union. When my landlord threatened to evict me last year they showed up for me and supported me in ways that no other resource I could find did. They provided really tangible support and the leaders in the Tenants Union do this on a daily basis for countless community members and on their own time just because they care deeply about other people.

I urge you to continue to listen to the solutions that they have identified Because they know firsthand what will make the biggest difference in the broader community. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:34:58

And I also just want to thank Habitat for being there for Sandpiper Mobile Home Park when it was hit by the tornado a week before last, within two days they were out there helping clean up so thank you on behalf of Carpentaria residents

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:35:15

We will now go to Cressida Silvers to be followed by Marcy Ortiz.

CommentCressida SilversProposedself-stated1:35:19

Cressida? Thank you, good morning. My name is Cressida Silvers. My family and I live in unincorporated Santa Barbara County in District 2 and I thank you very much for your work here today. We've been living in Santa Barbara and the area for more than 15 years and while we're fortunate enough to have been able to purchase our own home so we don't struggle with the unfathomable anxiety and damage of housing insecurity in this insane rental market, it does affect us. It affects all of us. So while I join the urgent call for you to act now to protect our neighbors in Isla Vista, this is but one example—one particularly egregious example—of landlord abuses that have been going on for years, for generations, that fall disproportionately on our black and brown community members That go on throughout the county and continue to go on unless the actions you take now not only.

Protect the residents of the sweeps, but also serve to protect our neighbors throughout the county who are suffering under the same circumstances but may not have the numbers to garner the same level of attention. This separates families and unravels the fabric of our community. When the people and families who make up the fabric of our community, the people who make our community function from day-to-day when they move outside of our community it hurts all of us. Whether it's a natural or traffic disaster that shuts down the freeway and shuts down access for our commuting teachers, nurses, first responders. It affects all of us when more and more people have to commute. It adds long distance congestion to our roadways, increases air pollution, and increases the amount of money that goes to the cost of commuting for our community members.

Taking away money for food and medicine, taking away dollars that might otherwise be spent within our communities supporting our local businesses. Employers can't attract or retain employees and that affects our entire community. I'm involved in my children's elementary school and so right now that's my main frame of reference. So I'm thinking about the friends my kids have had to say goodbye to over the years The teachers, my kids have had to say goodbye to. I'm thinking about the after school events that teachers can't participate in because they're looking at hour-long commutes to get home to their own families.

I recognize these seem like trivial compared to what renters are facing but the point is we're all affected in some way whether we recognize it or not so yes address the urgency of the sweeps and address the faulty and discriminatory system that hurts us all thank you

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:37:52

We will now go to Marcy Ortiz, to be followed by Alejandra Tomel. Marcy?

CommentMax AguilarProposed · by introduction1:38:05

Hello, I just wanted to say thank you for having this emergency meeting. I was so shocked when I got left the meeting on Tuesday and less than 24 hours knew I'd be back here. Took off time for work, it's that important to me. I really urge that you are able to do something today either passing this ordinance helping these people before it's too late And then in the future, if we could somehow continue having discussions on what we can do to move forward.

I don't live here. I'm talking for people that live in the Santa Barbara County. I live in Solvang. It's not a small unit but I live in an apartment unit that has 58 units And we were bought out by a big group just over a year ago. And they haven't said they're going to do this, and there hasn't been any hint at it. But all of the tenants where I live are in fear of this same thing happening.

When you talk about where I live is the same as all the stories of these people. It's minorities, it's elderly, it's people with disabilities. It's people that don't have the funds to move on. And so I just want to thank you again for having this. Everybody else has said everything that I can agree with, and I hope that we can continue with a California forward here. California has always been known as being the person that steps out first and gets things going for the rest of the nation.

And I just hope that in this case, that we can start with this. Not leave any more people behind and that we can start picking up and working with property owners, working within the law to protect the tenants and especially the lower income and the people that need our help the most in our county. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:40:15

We will now go to Alejandra Tomel to be followed by Alex and tricking. Alejandra. That's correct.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 23Proposed1:40:31

Hi, good morning to all. It's my third time speaking. I ask you all put yourselves in our situation. My name is Alejandra. I am a tenant at the CBC in the Sweeps Apartments. Imagine having to explain yourself to your family and processing yourself. You could potentially be homeless within the next few days, months, weeks. There are innocent children, hardworking individuals Who are affected by this inhumane situation.

I am opposing to being kicked out, being homeless anywhere without to go with my dog who is my emotional support to me. My three year old, my nine year old who suffers from fainting episodes seizures when under stressful situations. I ask pray you hear our pleading and help us as you can see I am recovering from a back second, a second back surgery Metal plates and screws in my back. Therefore, I have been diagnosed permanently partially disabled after receiving the eviction notice. I feel gut-wrenching every day. My antidepressants haven't been helping because of the amount of stress I am under.

Trying to live a normal life while trying to stay on top of my bills, rent, providing safety for my children. I personally could not be able to pay $2,800 a month for rent it is unrealistic to me so therefore This would make it nearly impossible for me to be able to provide a safe place for my children. Please protect my family, our neighbors, our community from the biggest mass eviction in California. I want to thank you all for giving me the time to speak and listening to my testimony and why it is important for my family and I to have this strong Eviction Protection Ordinance passed immediately. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:42:37

We will now go to Alex Entrekin, to be followed by Christina Lange and David Moore back on Zoom. Alex?

CommentAlex EntrekinProposedself-stated1:42:45

Thank you to the Board of Supervisors and to the tenants who showed up on such incredible short notice. My name is Alex Entrekin and I'm the Managing Attorney for Housing at the Santa Barbara Legal Aid Foundation and a member of the Santa Barbara Tenants Union. I strongly urge the supervisors to consider the changes that we as Legal Aid Foundation have suggested and that they consider the intent of this ordinance.

That it's intended to fairly apply rules requiring good faith and basic process to all tenants throughout the county As tenants union members have explained, there was a Thursday night call every night or every Thursday for the last three years. We had nights with 16 tenants coming with eviction notices. We had to put an intake process in place to manage the flow.

I say this because this What's going on in IV is going on throughout the county. The impact of this IV incident is bringing a conversation that I invite the supervisors and that I invite everyone in the county to join, to join the tenants and hear what's been going on. That we've seen as tenants, as people helping tenants in the Tenants Union trying to provide care however we can. And as we've seen at the Legal Aid Foundation this is a crisis that's been continuing and I strongly urge the supervisors to consider that this is urgent and should be intended To protect as many of our tenants as possible.

And that at this point all we're asking for is good faith. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:45:01

We will now return to zoom for Christina Lange to be followed by David Moore who is our final speaker, Christina. Looks like we just lost Christina. I don't know if she still wants to provide comments. If so, please log back on to provide your comments. Otherwise, we will go to David Moore as our final speaker. David?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 24Proposed1:45:34

Hello everyone, thank you to the county supervisors and to all of the empathetic individuals who have spoken today. And what strikes me is that you are my friends I know you on the board and nearly every person who has spoken today we are responsible for each other otherwise what are we doing here? Every time I think about Mass rent evictions that are taking place.

It brings me to a place of tears every conversation that I have with people, I'm fighting tears. I call in an official capacity, I can and you know as a pastor as the first vice president of the Santa Barbara affiliate of the NAACP. But I'm calling as a human in solidarity with all tenants all my siblings How can any of us sleep, including homeowners? How can we sleep tonight when our neighbors are losing sleep because of housing insecurity.

So I say to you as friends consider the psychological pressure Of having your life disrupted this way, moving when you choose to move can be stressful. But when you're forced to move and these folks weren't leading cushy lives in the first place so I support the emergency ordinance and Legal Aid Foundation amendments thank you for hearing me

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:47:12

And we did receive Christina Ling back on Zoom. So, we are going to Christina Ling who is our final speaker on this item. Christina?

PresenterChristina LangamendmentsProposedself-stated1:47:24

Can you hear me?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:47:25

Yes, we can please proceed.

PresenterChristina LangamendmentsProposedself-stated1:47:27

Thank you. Thank you. I'm sorry. I lost audio a few moments ago. I am back. I am Christina Lang. I have been an Isla Vista resident, a Goleta resident and a Santa Barbara resident. I support the urgency ordinance with the amendments. And I am just blown away by the quality and love and passion of the people who have shown up to speak with you today, and for your devotion to doing something to help the people in the CORE group but also all of us. I also really am appreciating the Santa Barbara Tenants Union And I do want to speak to friends who are housed, who have never had the problem of a rent increase they couldn't support or loss of home.

You know that some of us including me have had to share studios, sleep on sofas. You don't know what the crisis is for some of us but all of the folks listening today need to thank the Board of Supervisors if they pass this urgency ordinance and continue to look at the problem of a moratorium on mass evictions. Thank you for your time and I appreciate your work.

And that concludes public comment

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:48:50

on this item.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:48:52

Could we make sure we have the language put up on the screen of the Legal Aid Amendments and our ordinance language if possible. Is there any questions from the board before we move to comments, questions? Supervisor Kaps.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.881:49:24

Yeah, I'm just a clarification is this

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:49:27

It's the clean copy The that was just presented to us on our desks. I believe does this include the amendments or not? from legal aid

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:49:42

Mr. Chair, members of the board. So what you're seeing on the screen is a strikethrough underline and so that's the new language that was requested by a number of the speakers and legal aid for you to consider.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.911:49:59

So this is different than what I got yesterday and read this morning?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:50:08

Supervisor Labadino, yes it is slightly different. Well it's the same in all respects except for the underlying language here and the legislative intent and then there's underlying language in the remedies section.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:50:21

Could you go over the substance of what those changes are in the remedies section?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:50:26

In the remedy section? Sure just a minute.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.911:50:29

Yeah help walk me through because I was just familiarized myself with the thing I got four hours ago

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:50:42

And we have one announcement from the clerk.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:50:46

Chair Williams, members of the board thank you I just wanted to announce for members of the public who are viewing online at home and here that we did make copies and they are available in the back of the room if you'd like that in hard copy form and it is available online and has been distributed to all the board members both in North and South County. Thank you

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.581:51:07

Madam Clerk, we don't have it here in North County.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:51:10

Oh thank you Supervisor Hartman we will ensure that you get that right away

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:51:20

Mr. Chair members of the board so you received a hardcopy packet and for supervisor Hartman and Nelson I believe it's on the way but it's also posted online for you to review as well as for the public So there's just in the track changes version, you get a clean version and a track changes version. This is the one you just got. So the track changes version is the second ordinance in the packet so you'd flip back to the second ordinance in this packet.

It's the same ordinance it's just that one is track changes and one is clean. And it's also displayed on the screen. So in the track changes version on page two of the ordinance under legislative intent, the underlying language is added. It says the requirements herein shall apply to termination notices provided after the effective date of this urgency ordinance which is similar to what we had before.

This is really the new language and any unlawful detainer action initiated after the effective date of this urgency ordinance The other additional changes are.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.581:52:35

Sure, could you explain what that means? I think it goes to the point that we heard from a number of commenters that this would work at each stage of the eviction process. I think this is the language that is pertinent but could you explain how this would work?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:52:56

Supervisor Hartman and members of the board If adopted as an urgency ordinance, then this ordinance applies prospectively. So the requirements would apply in the future including to any unlawful detainer actions. So this language on legislative intent is just stating that and making it clear that any actions whether it's a notice or an unlawful detainer action anything that happens after this ordinance is effective then we need to comply with those new requirements.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.581:53:32

So does this apply to the cases we heard about today in Isla Vista? Are those retrospective?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:53:46

Supervisor Hartman and members of the board, it's really going to be fact specific because there's ongoing. There's been some notices that have been sent some that may be sent in the future unlawful detainer action is something that occurs later in the process. And so for unlawful detainers at that next step when those occur when and if those occur these requirements would apply

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.581:54:16

Thank you so it's a way to catch more within this ordinance.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:54:25

Supervisor Hartman, members of the board yes I believe so it is it's extending this or clarifying that it applies to anything that happens after the point that this ordinance is effective.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:54:41

Madam Council have a question Go ahead

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:54:46

Supervisor Nelson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:54:47

What an unlawful detainer is and why wouldn't it be filed?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:54:59

Supervisor Nelson, members of the board at a high level Essentially an unlawful detainer action is when someone has received notice of termination of their lease and they do not leave. And so, an owner needs to take a court action in order to get them to leave.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:55:20

Because they are staying there unlawfully?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:55:29

Supervisor Nelson I believe so. And then to just move forward on the other changes section 4424, which is also in page 5 of the packet. In track changes and also displayed on the screen. It's it's similar to what the language is in the legislative intent. It saying that it's going to apply prospectively to notices that are sent off the effective date as well as unlawful detainer action initiated after Makes it clear that failure to comply with provisions of this chapter is a defense in an unlawful detainer action for a tenant. A tenant may also seek injunctive relief.

These remedies are not exclusive, so if a tenant has other remedies that are seeking they're not limited to what is in the ordinance and those are the only changes that are before you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:56:44

This is really, really difficult for me to get this language. Without having legal advice on the risks that it poses to the county. And I am concerned about us drafting legislation that would encourage people to potentially do something unlawful and break a contract and what liability that might bring to us. I only have limited time here, but I'm really concerned about

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:57:14

that. I do understand the concern though all of these provisions including the amendments by legal aid have been vetted by our county council and frankly if we wanted to be adventuresome legally we probably would've put some more things in here. This is I guess to my comment of the unfortunate confines of established legal rights of a county or city to put some as what was mentioned by a member of the public, speed bumps, restrictions, a totality of steps that a landlord would have to go through to act in good faith.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.911:58:09

Question Supervisor Lavigno. How does this differ from what the City of Santa Barbara has established?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:58:26

Supervisor Lavigno The provisions are largely the same. There were amendments made to because we already have an existing Chapter 44 with relocation payments, there were some changes to make sure it wasn't inconsistent. I do not know if this new remedies language that was added this morning is included in the city's ordinance. We can check that and get back to you.

It'll just take us a few minutes And as to Supervisor Nelson's comments, so this ordinance our office assisted with it. But it is being proposed by Supervisor Williams and Supervisor Capps what you have before you there's recent changes this morning but there's also previous versions that were provided and your board has discretion to. Adopt a previous version adopt this new version or also consider Some variation of that and we would be able to assist with changes if there was something some piece of this That the board wanted to amend

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.911:59:37

Okay, well I think I'm probably gonna be the swing on this here So I need to really understand it before I for I pass it. So I Really want to not an attorney So let's go over the remedies section and spell it out in plain English for me. So if we could just walk through that real quick, and I know Supervisor Nelson, I'm sorry you're kind of on your time

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:59:59

but... Supervisor Lavinia, this is important enough. We'll sit here as long as it takes to go through the remedies section.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.912:00:06

It's unfortunately short. Yeah, real short. I just need to understand it better.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:00:17

And while

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:00:18

they're conferring, I just want to make sure that the public understands that the reason why we could not take action on Tuesday is the state law requires us to publicly notice items. In custom it's noticed longer than this but we complied with the legally essentially most short time Notice can be made for these items for a Thursday hearing. And I just want to appreciate the work of both Supervisor Kapp's staff and my own, appreciate that some were already looking at these before the case of the sweeps which helped this go a little bit faster and appreciate all the work by County Council being willing That this

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:01:13

draft and the amendments that are suggested.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:01:22

Mr chair members of the board so supervisor 11 you know you want to walk through

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.912:01:27

it's just saying if I'm reading this right, it's just saying that if Somebody's attempting, if a landlord is attempting to evict that these are some of the defenses that a renter would be able to claim. That they didn't follow the proper noticing and those types of things?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:01:48

Supervisor Lavagnino, yes. That's the way that I'm reading the language. I will say that our office does not handle unlawful detainer actions and so this is setting up remedies for private parties to your question about the city's ordinance A, B and F are so the non-underlined language is what the city has. And they have one other which talks about failure to make relocation assistance payments in a timely manner shall be a defense to any unlawful detainer action.

So one option would be if we're not comfortable if the board isn't comfortable adding this many I mean saying that the remedies are not exclusive to this section does give Some leeway for an individual to seek whatever remedy is appropriate.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:02:49

Can I can I so the essentially the ones that are not in the Santa Barbara City ordinances C and D? In the remedy section, because our draft is the entirety of it is underlined which is why Supervisor Lavinia has Having my whole ordinance is under as is it have a hard time differentiating the new from the old.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.912:03:12

Yeah, but that those those don't seem to be on their face anything Failure of a landlord to comply shall provide the tenant of defense I mean, that's the whole reason why we're doing that ordinance

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:03:26

So supervisors so this is probably gonna be helpful too. Okay, so you actually I didn't realize this But you have three copies of the ordinance So the first copy,

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.912:03:34

I thought this ordinance was a lot longer than I anticipated. There it is.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:03:39

The first nine pages are a clean copy with the new changes. Then you see track changes. This is everything being added to the, it's all new article four. Then there's one more ordinance after that that just shows the new changes that were added this morning so you'll see it's not that much language. I can see why now it was confusing. I

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.912:04:03

wonder why you're looking at me like I was totally confused but now I get it. All right understood thank you and I don't think I have a problem with CD&E.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:05:30

You good. OK, let's go. Let's move to comments.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:05:41

Who would like to go first? Supervisor caps

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.882:05:43

chair Williams I just appreciate these additions and I think the crux of it really does just provide a helpful and necessary clarification of the intent of the ordinance that you and I put forward, which is the immediacy and the rationale for the urgency in the emergency ordinance. So I am good with the changes and appreciate the work. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:06:12

And for my part, I, we tried to work to provide concrete defenses and requirements for landlords to truly act in good faith. I really appreciate the aid from Legal Aid not only on this ordinance but on the tireless work. I know enough of you personally to know how large caseloads You have, and sort of the dedication that each one of your attorneys shows to tenants and those that are in need.

My intent is to provide the strongest protections that we can turn around in this short amount of a time span And the strongest ones we can provide that are in sort of the category of well-established precedent. I know that puts some confines on us, I think some confines that we should perhaps further examine but I hope that today will provide Either concrete defenses that will allow, that will send a strong signal.

Give some tools in your possession but also send a strong signal to this corporate entity and to other landlords that might imitate them that there are defenses at your disposal and that the county wishes to defend tenants' ability to stay within their homes. I did strongly empathize with one of the statements saying that sometimes what we can act in is to be a speed bump in the path of corporate greed, reduced to being a speed bump in the path of corporate greed, then I am going to be the most inconvenient spiky rough broken topo like tire damaging speed bump that I can be.

And so and that is what I hope that we can provide here at the

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.582:08:45

county.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:08:50

Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.582:08:52

Yes, I'd like to make a few comments. And first of all, thank you to you and Supervisor Capps for working so quickly with County Council and getting this option for us. Thank you to everyone who testified. It has been absolutely heart-wrenching to put these human faces on this tragedy You know, in 2008 we had a financial crisis due to the splicing and dicing of mortgages.

Now we've got something different that pension funds and financial institutions are not just buying up the mortgages they're buying up the housing stock and they're doing this worldwide. And so we're seeing something radically different than we've ever seen in the past In the state of California, we passed Proposition 13 as a way to stabilize costs for housing for homeowners.

So many it was passed because so many retired people couldn't pay the property tax increases but we're not really talking about how we stabilize and give secure housing to renters and that's what this case is raising for all of us I think of people's self-help housing in Guadalupe and what they're doing. They're doing renovations, but they're providing for the tenants during the renovation and they have a right of return afterwards. I would like to see us get to that point eventually where renters have more security. What we see today are private gains in renovation, but there are tremendous socialized costs with homelessness, with people with these long commutes These are left for the county to have to try to address. So we, I believe, have a real clear interest in trying to figure this issue out.

As I said it's an international problem but we feel it, I think more acutely here in Santa Barbara because it is such an attractive place to invest And people realize private profits, but a lot of the quality of life has been things that the public with the consent of the residents have invested in. So those are my comments. I'm prepared to support what we can come up with today, but I think this is a problem that will continue to get worse and we have to look at what are the limits of our ability and reach those, get to the edge of what we can do to protect people.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:11:51

Thank you, Supervisor Hartman. Does Supervisor Nelson have a comment?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.582:11:59

He had to leave.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed2:12:00

OK. He gave me warning.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.912:12:03

So Supervisor Labnina. Thank you Mr. Chair. First I want to thank County Council. I think this is probably a record turnaround on writing an ordinance for those that have tried to write an ordinance before months and months and months And so I appreciate this. And I just kind of want to put into context something, too. We're talking about superseding state law that is from the most progressive legislature in the country. So these are bold steps.

And I want to thank everybody for coming today. Your personal stories were very moving, very touching personally for somebody that grew up in a mobile home And had to live in a motel for awhile, and I struggled as a renter for much of my life. I hear you and I sympathize with your predicament. So we gotta figure out like how did we get here so we don't do it again? And we got here in this code red situation because this county's failed over the last decades to build the housing that we need.

It doesn't take an economist to figure out that because we continue to limit The demand and the price continues to escalate. Now we have a vacancy rate that's around 1%. That's what happens, but what's happened is this board over decades has too many times listened to the voices of those that don't want to build anything because it's inconvenient for them prioritizing that over renters and people that are on the margins So we need to start making your voices heard.

Tuesday, we listened and the message was that your situation demanded we hold this special meeting and create an emergency ordinance, and I fully support it. However, later in that same meeting after you guys left, we also discussed the housing element, and that is the future of building houses and where we were going to put homes over the next eight years in this county.

And in that meeting We were speaking to a different group of people and the same kind of got the same vibe was that our staff has identified now over 7,000 sites for future housing. But we spoke from this dais and tried to calm people down by saying that we're not going to build those don't worry about it. We're only going to build what the state is forcing us to build the minimum And we can't have it both ways.

So if this is an emergency, a code red, which I totally believe it is, then we need to ensure that we aren't doing what you said sir, which was virtue signaling. We need to do everything we can to be bold and be proactive. And that means building the houses that we have failed to build in this county. We have to be consistent. And instead of telling people we're only going to build what the state is forcing us to build, we need to build on all the sites that we are identifying.

So I'm curious how many folks want to build the minimum as opposed to how many want to build the maximum? And that's kind of the question for everybody. When this room empties and another group comes in, we have to stay consistent. Today is just the start. But today happened because of decisions that were made by other board members long ago. And we have to realize that and fix that moving forward, so I'm happy to support this.

I empathize with each and every one of you stories are soul crushing and I'll do my part to be part of the solution. Supervisor

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.582:16:12

Williams? Supervisor Harmon? Yes. Well, I really appreciate Supervisor Lavanino's comments. But I think this is not just a matter of supply and demand. This is, LA has the same problem and they've built and built and built. There's something different happening in the economic world and the way people are investing in housing. In certain areas in Santa Barbara up to 18-23% are vacant second homes investment properties that has never happened before unless we think more about the kinds of Ordinance regulations we have in place, we can build it and people will come in even to so-called low income housing units 700 square feet. And it's a lovely pied-a-terre. It's a great little foothold in Santa Barbara to come on the weekends. That's not what we want.

We want the housing for the firefighters and the nurses and the teachers and the gardeners And people who spoke today who are in Section 8. And to get that, we need to think more than simply creating more housing. We need to make sure that the housing is going to the people who live here now, who want to work here, who contribute to the fabric of our community. So it's more than just the housing element is what I'd like to say.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:17:50

I want to say something because I think it's pretty important what Mr. Lavigno just said, you know and I guess one of the reasons why sometimes I'm a bummer to listen to is because I fundamentally believe recognizing our own hypocrisy is the only way to achieve ethical and moral public policy right? The reality is that for 43 years there was not a single private apartment building built in the city of Santa Barbara, most of my lifetime.

Most of the housing stock that's rental in Isla Vista dates from the 60s, 50s and if it's new, the 70s right? We cannot deprive a rental market of new apartments for that long without it affecting price, as well as other items. And I hope that the folks here will be engaged in the housing element update that will be unfolding over the next nine months because most of the housing that is proposed is rental housing and a large section is proposed to be affordable.

It will not save the people in the sweeps, but it might save a generation of working people in Santa Barbara. And Supervisor Hartman I want to try to get you together with the gentleman I spoke to yesterday this real estate investor because his point was that The power that a predatory company has over us. is precisely because they recognize our own weakness. They know that we are depriving the market of new housing stock and so they know it's a sure investment to come in here, and then they gobble up second homes that are then not available for the people who live here. Then they put out short-term rentals. They do all these things because they know we are not going to respond by building more And so that their investment is sure.

And unfortunately, it's become a sort of weird mythology that NIMBYs have used that somehow housing prices are gonna go up if we built more of it which he was at pains to try to disabuse me of but that was truly a mythology So I could blame this company, and I definitely do. But I also think it's important for us to blame ourselves and our own history. Ms. Alexander rightly pointed out that there is a history of housing policy in this county that has some real dark moments to it.

And some of it was well-intentioned. Some of it was because we thought we were gonna save the environment by not allowing anything to be built. Well, the data's in and as three of the speakers pointed out all that's created is more commuting, more traffic, more destruction of the environment. And so when the moment that we realized that the thing we thought was gonna save us is destroying us might be the moment where we need to change what we're doing.

Because that housing policy not only is destroying the environment, but it is resegregating our community. It it our lack of production of housing is what chased out the majority of our african-american community out of the South County and now it's destroying the middle the Latino middle class and It's providing a total lack of opportunities for young people in this community. So I hope This is only a Not only an attempt to save these tenants and other tenants, but that we make it inform our other decisions to save a generation of Santa Barbarans from loss of housing.

Can I get a motion?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.582:22:25

Chair Williams if I may, that requires the rejoinder. Sure And I want this on record that we can build it. And it's not necessarily going to go to the people we want to build it for. I also was living in Santa Monica as a person who testified during public comment. They built a lot of housing, but it's not for the people who work there. It's not for the working class, for the middle class, the missing middle.

The low income it just isn't so we need more than to build housing I don't disagree with that and i'm certainly supportive of this ordinance but what i'm saying is don't expect these to fix it because the problem is bigger.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:23:15

I will concede that if we can't just do production but there's no substitute for production you're right that there are other things that we must do And I look forward to working with you on that as we have done in the past. Supervisor Hartman? Supervisor caps,

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.882:23:32

I would like to move us forward. I appreciate the rise 11, you know taking this big picture Look, it's important. It's valuable. I also just want to echo his statement about the lightning speed again I'm new here to this county and Incredibly heartened to the young mom who spoke to my heart about her struggles going to school Raising her child two jobs The request was We need your help And we are trying to help you and I just, I am incredibly touched by County Council. The hours around the clock working to put this forward so quickly.

We're doing our best to try to help you. We're doing our best to try to help you and with that I'd like to move this ordinance forward with the amended changes.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:24:23

And further discussion

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:24:24

Mr. Chair members of the board just since there are Alternative recommendations here, I just recommend the motion be clear that it's items a B and C including their visions made in the hearing today

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:24:37

Specifically that's the language that is up on the screen amendments suggested by legal aid Is that? clarification Agreeable to you supervisor caps

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CommentMax AguilarProposed · by introduction2:24:49

absolutely

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:24:50

and that is to me as the seconder Any further discussion? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Oh, we got to do a roll call. That's remote

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supervisor caps. Aye Supervisor Nelson is absent supervisor Labanino. Aye supervisor Hartman and chair Williams Aye
UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:25:10

motion passes four to one with Nelson absent

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:25:15

I Darcelle, don't you know the rules of the county? Okay. We have a closed session. We're not done yet. So please tell us what the closed session is about. Members of the public do not need to stay for closed session but you may want to hear what it's about.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:25:44

Mr. Chair, members of the board there's one item on for closed session anticipated litigation it's deciding whether to initiate civil litigation one case and the time estimate is 30 minutes

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.882:25:56

thank you County Council, can you

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:03:14

report out from closed session?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed3:03:16

Thank you Mr. Chair and members of the board. The board met in closed session on one item of anticipated litigation deciding whether to initiate civil litigation and the board took no reportable action.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:03:28

We will not be meeting next week because of the California State Association of Counties meeting but we will be reconvening to April 18th for a special board meeting on budget hearings.