BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 October 1, 2024

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.760:30

Good morning everybody. I'd like to call to order the October 1st, 2024 meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. Madam Clerk can we please call the roll?

Roll call, called by Clerk of the Board
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Supervisor Nelson? Here. Supervisor Williams? Here Supervisor Caps? Here. Supervisor Hartman? Here and Chair Lavagnino? I am here
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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.760:48

at this time. Can you please stand and join the board in pledging allegiance to the flag?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role0:54

Ready begin. I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America

Next item of business is the approval of the minutes from the September 17th 2024 regular meeting.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:23

Move approval.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:24

Second. Madam Clerk, can we have a roll call please?

Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 Move approval. Second. Madam Clerk, can we have a roll call
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Supervisor Nelson. Aye. Supervisor Williams. Aye Supervisor Kapps. Aye Supervisor Hartman. Aye and Chair Lavanino. Aye
UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:40

Motion passes unanimously.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:41

Next item of business is our County CEO report

CommentSherry BundenhovenProposed · by introduction1:45

Good morning, Supervisors. I've got a few announcements today. The first one is just to congratulate and thank our budget team. The Government Finance Officers Association, GFOA has awarded the County of Santa Barbara with its Distinguished Budget Presentation Award for fiscal year 24-25. The award is given to government agencies that improve the quality of budgeting and provide excellent examples of governments throughout North America. The award recipients must satisfy nationally recognized guidelines and have a budget that successfully serves as a policy document, a financial plan, operations guide and communication device. This is the 28th consecutive year the county has received this so kudos to our budget team on continuing that tradition The second is that the county has received a $4.7 million grant from the California Energy Commission to develop electric vehicle charging infrastructure, this was the second highest grant award given.

The grant requires a $2.3 million match from the county in staff time and capital investment and the funds will support the county with zero emission vehicle and advanced clean fleet transition by installing 144 level two and 36 level three charging ports at 14 locations throughout the county. The competitive grant was put together by our county's General Services Department with support from the Community Services Department and Terra Lumina Consulting. So thank you and congratulations to our General Services Department.

And speaking of general services, I just wanted to do a shout out to recognize an employee and that is John Green who was selected as a permanent promotion to the Assistant Director of Facilities, Capital & Energy. John has a real success story regarding succession management. He started in county in 1997 as a building maintenance worker in the shops. He has since worked his way up through the ranks as a project coordinator, project manager, capital division chief and is now the assistant director. John brings a wealth of experience and knowledge to the general services team. And we commend him for his, we commend him and thank him for his service and wish him continued success in his new role.

John? For

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:50

over 40 years.

CommentSherry BundenhovenProposed · by introduction3:53

And my last item is the county's United Way campaign which is kicking off today and will run through the month of October. We have a short video to share with you today and then we'll be joined by this year's charitable giving chair in our Ag Commissioner Jose Chang.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:11

For over 40 years, the County of Santa Barbara has proudly partnered with United Way helping to build stronger communities through your generosity and support. By joining the United Way campaign you help provide crucial resources to those who need it most.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:24

United Way of Santa Barbara County operates multiple community programs from VITA a program for free tax preparation services to full scholarships for local kids to attend United Ways summer learning and enrichment program Fun in the Sun! It's fun here and there is nothing to do at home

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:42

I wish I'm fun in the sun was actually regular school. I loved it so much, especially math.

GuestJose ChangAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated4:49

The number one goal of the United Way campaign for the county. It is 100% awareness of all of the county employees.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed4:57

Let's continue this tradition of giving and make 2024 our best year yet because together we

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:04

thrive. Thank

GuestJose ChangAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated5:09

you Okay,

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.765:12

give it up.

GuestJose ChangAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated5:16

Chair Lavagnino, members of the board, CEO Miyasato. Good morning my name is Jose Chang I am the Santa Barbara County Agricultural Commissioner and I have the honor and pleasure to be the chair of the Santa Barbara County United Way this year with me today is also Rose Levy from United Way and she will be saying a few words on behalf of United Way. Today the county's United Way campaign officially kicks off And runs through the end of October. We are very excited once again to be having a gift basket.

Silent auction where our departments are donating gift baskets with the money raised going to United Way. And lastly, I just wanted to say that it is what it is most important to me as chair of United Way this year is for the county. It is to encourage the county's tradition of giving and improving the lives of all Santa Barbara County. And with that, I'm just going to, if it is okay Chair, just a couple of words from United Way.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed6:26

Thank you Chair Lavagnino, Board of Supervisors, Mrs. Miyasato thank you so much for having me here today I'm so excited to be here United Way has been in Santa Barbara County for over 100 years having positive impact on children and families and we have been partnering with the county of Santa Barbara for over 60 years and we are so grateful for that partnership and all of the impact we've been able to make together I'm so excited to be here on the kickoff of the campaign for 2024 And we look forward to working with the County of Santa Barbara for decades to come. Thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.766:56

Awesome, thank

CommentSherry BundenhovenProposed · by introduction6:57

you. That concludes my report.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.767:03

Great! Well Saturday night I will be at a United Way event in Santa Maria. We have the Mayor's Bash. And it always, it never disappoints. I'll say that so we're gonna have some fun Saturday night raising some money for it's actually the focus is on children's literacy so great cause. Okay Madam Clerk do we have any announcements or changes to our agenda today?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role7:29

Chair Lavinino and members of the board, yes I have a few announcements this morning. We posted an addendum to today's agenda on Friday September 27th adding administrative item number 29 to the agenda and amending the closed session agenda. Administrative item number 29 is sponsored by Supervisor Williams it is an honorary resolution of commendation honoring Thomas A Costello for his outstanding contributions to the Santa Barbara community In addition, the closed session agenda has been amended to remove a conference with real property negotiators item regarding property assessor's parcel number 105-330-002 corner of West Clark Avenue and Markham Street in Orkut California 93455. And this is in the fourth district. This addendum has been posted online and made available to the board and the public and administrative item number 29 can be added to the balance of the administrative agenda.

Additionally, we received a request from the supervisor to continue administrative item number 3. Administrative Item Number 3 is sponsored by Supervisor Capps. It is to adopt a resolution proclaiming the month of October 2024 as Domestic Violence Awareness and Prevention Month in Santa Barbara County Supervisor Capps is requesting a continuance from today's meeting to the Tuesday, October 15th 2024 meeting in Santa Barbara. This continuance request has been made available to the board and the public and can also be added to the balance of the administrative agenda Additionally we received a request from the supervisor to amend administrative item number 26 Administrative item number 26 is from supervisor Lavinino it is to approve the appointment of Juanita Panetta as And lastly for the Board of Supervisors methods of public participation and to provide

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role9:05

public comment on general public comment or an item on the board's agenda. Please see page 2 If you have any questions please contact the clerk of the board's office at area code 805-568-2240. Again that number is 805-5682240 and that concludes my announcements for today.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.769:44

Okay thank you very much

next item of business will be our administrative agenda would any board members like to pull any items from the A agenda? Supervisor Nelson

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response9:54

Yes, I understand you're pulling 18. So I'd like to speak on that as well as a roll call vote on 24 and I'd like to speak on 25. What

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7610:03

was the last one? I'm sorry. 25 Yeah, just gonna highlight that 24 also okay.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6710:09

I'd yeah I'd like to chair I'd Like to pull 22 I don't need a separate vote on it just

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7610:13

want to highlight it got that and I'd also like to pull 818 which is already pulled any members of the public like to discuss any items of administrative agenda

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role10:21

Chair Lavanino and members of the board, we have no request to speak from the public on our administrative agenda today.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7610:26

Okay I'd like to now entertain a motion to approve the balance administrative agenda except for 18 22 24 and 25 and let the motion reflect also the changes that our clerk read in regarding closed session amendment the addition of 829 the continuance on 83 and the correction on 26.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response10:43

So moved.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role10:46

Second.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7610:46

Moved and seconded roll call please

Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 Moved and seconded roll call
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Supervisor Nielsen? Aye. Supervisor Williams? Aye Supervisor Kapps? Aye Supervisor Hartman? Aye And Chair Labadino? Aye
UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role10:59

Motion passes unanimously.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7611:00

Okay that moves us to our resolutions to be presented at this meeting and Madam Clerk can you please read administrative item number one into the record

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role11:09

Chair Lavinino and members of the Board, Administrative Item number one is sponsored by Supervisor Lavinino. It is to adopt a resolution of commendation honoring the advanced revenue and tax administrative employees of the Auditor-Controller's Office as the October 2024 Employees of the Month in Santa Barbara County. And joining us in person today we have Claudia Ornelas, Andrea Labee, Erica Ruiz, Danny Forner, Josh Stewart-Oten Ariel Beltran, Marshall Bagley, Shen Liu and Lamont Grissom.

And anyone else you'd like to join us? And I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Whereas Claudia Ornelas, Andrea Labee, Erica Ruiz, Danny Forner, Josh Stewart-Otten, Ariel Beltran, Marshall Bagley, Shen Liu and Lamont Grissom are recognized for their exceptional dedication to the county as team members in the Advanced Revenue and Tax Administration, ARTA, Division of the Auditor-Controller's Office.

Relentlessly to prepare the annual property tax levy and make corrections throughout the year. To distribute property tax revenues and intergovernmental revenues to cities, special districts, school and community college districts and county departments. And whereas property tax administration and revenue distribution is a complex process with intricate and complicated rules requiring significant expertise exacting precision and continuous education. And whereas ARTA staff accurately and timely distribute over 1.2 billion per year in property taxes, and almost 300 million per year in intergovernmental revenues to nearly 80 separate local governments comprising the vast majority of funding for those entities and over 85% of county discretionary revenues.

And whereas ARTA's customers include County taxpayers, county departments, cities, special districts, school and community college districts, financial consultants, and state and federal agencies. And whereas ARTA staff aim to provide outstanding customer service with patience and a smile and therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that Claudia Ornelas Andrea Labie, Erica Ruiz, Danny Forner, Josh Stewart-Otten, Ariel Beltran, Marshall Bagley, Shen Liu, Lamont Grissom are hereby recognized as invaluable assets to the county as a whole and as individual employees passed and adopted today.

GuestEd PriceControllerProposedself-stated13:47

Good morning, members of the Board. My name is Ed Price and I'm the Assistant Auditor-Controller and it's truly my honor and privilege to be here today on behalf of the Audit Controller Betsy Schaefer to recognize a phenomenal group, our Advanced Revenue Tax Administration Group, ARDA for short for the Employee of the Month Award. As their name suggests this team is all about revenues but trust me what they do is much more than just numbers on a page.

Let me give you a quick glimpse of a couple of their core tasks, something they quietly handle with skill and precision year after year. Extending the property tax roll and apportioning collected tax dollars. Now extending the tax roll might sound straightforward but in reality it's an intricate process that involves serious math for every single parcel in the county we take information from the assessor multiply by the tax rate add other levies from other governments produce a tax bill for the Tax Collector's Office to collect But that job doesn't just end there. Once the tax roll is extended, the team switches and takes on a next big task and that's apportioning out those tax dollars that were collected.

Simple in theory but very complex in the actual processing. These calculations involve multiple steps and can stretch to 10 digits past the decimal point. This year ARDR will distribute over $1.3 billion to nearly 80 different local governments in our county That's real impact and that means a lot of local revenue for our county but also for schools, cities and special districts.

So why do I highlight this? Because what may seem to be a routine and simple task is actually incredibly detail-oriented and it provides essential processes for our local governments so they can provide services and continue to thrive. And since the ARDA team does it so well we thought we'd highlight them today Because they are full of precision, professionalism and always do things with a smile. Thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7615:47

And congratulations. Madam Clerk can you please read administrative item number two into the record?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role16:04

Chair Lavinino and members of the Board, Administrative Item Number 2 is sponsored by Supervisor Caps and Supervisor Hartman. It is to adopt a resolution proclaiming the month of October 2024 as Breast Cancer Awareness Month in Santa Barbara County. And joining us in person today we have Silvana Kelly, Executive Director of the Santa Barbara Breast Cancer Resource Center. If you can please make your way to the podium and I will go ahead and read the resolution.

Whereas in the United States, one in eight women will be diagnosed with breast cancer in their lifetime. And when breast cancer is detected early and a localized stage, the five year survival rate is 98%. As a result, women should work with their medical providers to establish a plan to detect the disease in the early stages which includes regular mammograms, clinical breast exams and self-breast exams.

And whereas the emotional, physical and financial burdens of breast cancer have significant impacts not only on patients but also on their families, caregivers Caregivers and communities requiring comprehensive support and resources for all those affected. And whereas the Santa Barbara Breast Cancer Resource Center plays a vital role in providing support services, patient navigation resources, and educational programs to promote patient empowerment in the fight against breast cancer as do other entities like Ridley Tree Cancer Center and UCLA Health Cancer Center.

Excuse me, UCLA Health Cancer Care. And whereas Breast Cancer Survivors demonstrate incredible resilience and strength serving as a source of inspiration for others in showing the importance of advocacy, education and access to care in overcoming this disease. And whereas Breast Cancer Awareness Month serves as a reminder of the need to address disparities in breast cancer outcomes particularly among minority communities where rates of late stage diagnosis and mortality are disproportionately higher. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors does proclaim the month of October 2024 as Breast Cancer Awareness Month to promote the health of all residents in the County of Santa Barbara, and thanks the Santa Barbara Breast Cancer Resource Center for the crucial services and support they provide.

Pass it adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed18:10

Thank you so much for inviting me here to accept this proclamation. I appreciate it most of all, I appreciate the recognition that in Santa Barbara what we have is a cancer care resource center and all of our services are provided at no cost to the public Many people don't know about us until they have to deal with a breast cancer diagnosis. But we have been here in Santa Barbara for 27 years, we're very unique in our community and I know that the women and their families that utilize our resources are very happy to have the support of the public. We are a non-profit so we depend upon The charity of our community and we appreciate it. What I want to let everybody know here today is that today we kick off what is called Pink Week, which is a series of free virtual webinars for anyone to participate in.

They are to support and inform people about breast cancer, how they can deal with it, and how they move beyond cancer and in their survivorship health. So thank you so much for having me here today. I appreciate it.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7619:21

Thank you. Supervisor Caps.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6719:26

Thank you I just wanted to thank Ms. Kelly for being here and for all the work that you and your colleagues do, the free services is just incredible value to our community and I was taken aback last year when you received a Local Hero Award from the Santa Barbara Independent to hear just how many thousands of people your work has touched so thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7619:50

That takes us to Madam Clerk, can you please read administrative item number four into the record?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role19:58

Chair Lavanino and members of the board. Administrative Item Number Four is sponsored by Supervisor Lavanino is to adopt a resolution proclaiming the month of October 2024 as Cybersecurity Awareness Month in Santa Barbara County and joining us in person today we have Chris Sherwick Gary Coverdale Andre Montessori and Greg Milligan And if you can please make your way to the podium and I'll go ahead and read the resolution.

Whereas Santa Barbara County recognizes the vital role that the internet and information technology play in the daily lives of county staff and residents. And the internet users, and the nation's information infrastructure face an increasing threat of malicious cyber attack loss of privacy for malware and significant financial and personal privacy losses due to identity theft and fraud.

And whereas during the past year, the county has been maturing and strengthening its cybersecurity posture through additional policies and updated systems On September 21st, 2021 the Board of Supervisors adopted 20 detailed National Institute of Standards and Technology NIST based technically cybersecurity policies. Cybersecurity policies are utilized in the governance risk and compliance GRC system for all departments to manage their adherence to these policies and controls. And whereas the county cyber security program has expanded countywide with annual cybersecurity training for all county users required for continued use of County Technology Resources. The yearly required training launches every October and the county has recently added a training and certification path for all department security officers Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that the Board of Supervisors of Santa Barbara County does hereby observe the month of October 2024 as National Cybersecurity Awareness Month to recognize the importance of cybersecurity and encourage citizens to engage in safe cyber practices in their homes, schools, workplace, and business.

Passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed21:57

Thank you, Chair Lavagnino and members of the board for this important recognition of Cybersecurity Awareness Month. In today's digital age safeguarding our systems and data is more critical than ever and this resolution underscores our collective responsibility to stay vigilant. Our efforts to promote cybersecurity awareness train staff and important implement strong security measures are key to ensuring that the safety and resilience of our county operations and community We are committed to working together to protect our county's digital infrastructure, and this acknowledgment helps drive our ongoing efforts to strengthen cybersecurity practices. Thank you again for this resolution.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role22:53

Chair Lavinino and members of the board, administrative item number 18 is from the Public Health Department. It is to consider recommendations regarding a volunteer and clinical support services agreement with A.T. Sill University of Health Sciences, ATSU.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7623:08

I think both Supervisor Nelson and I pulled this item, Director Hamami if you could come up. This is just something that I wanted to highlight. I've had the opportunity to tour AT still and I think this is just a outstanding opportunity for both of us and Director Hamami if you could just kind of touch on some of the basics

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed23:28

All right, good morning. Thank you Mr Chair. As you mentioned this is a win-win situation we are providing an exposure to what community care and community health is for these future health providers and it also adds to us in giving them the opportunity to be educated and learn but also it is a future work So we hope that those that are going to be practicing at our community health centers are going to be our future providers. It's definitely an example on a partnership that we want to expand, especially with A.T. Stills University they have also some future I think AT still is a little bit unique because of their business model is to try to recruit students who reflect the community and they

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7624:30

Look for underserved communities to get them established in. So I think this is going to be perfect for the Santa Maria area, just really appreciate you and your team taking the time to go in and really try to make this happen. And like I said, I think this is just going to be an outstanding opportunity for both sides. Supervisor Nelson?

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response24:51

Yes, thank you Chair Lavanino and I had the pleasure of attending the second graduation of the A.T. Still Physician's Assistance Program a couple weeks ago up at Cal Poly where 90 graduates received their masters and are now gonna be able to participate as physician's assistants. And I'm just really impressed by A. T. Still. You know it's kind of one of the best kept secrets. It's fairly new in the North County but I just think it's a huge opportunity for the county of Santa Barbara and the region And definitely in Santa Maria Valley to bring really a world-class medical center. A.T. Still is the father of orthopathy, so when you guys think about the doctors that are the You know, you got your M.D.' 's and then your D.O.'s. AT Still is again the father of that methodology or that philosophy and AT still is not just some kind of fly by night college.

I mean this if you go look up top I have a daughter who will likely be going through this process and it's very competitive to get into these physician assistant schools. I was talking to AT Still, they have over 2,000 applicants for every class in the class of 90. And one of the goals that they have is actually having 10% of each class coming from the local area which when you think about that on a national scale the opportunity for people In Santa Barbara County and San Luis Obispo and Ventura Counties, it's huge. And that's just the Physician Assistance Program. If we start to look at what that might look like in the future with a medical school, a dental school, they're looking at moving forward with actually having their first bachelors in nursing program as well through there.

It's a huge opportunity for health outcomes for the community as well as access for those who live in our community to be able to access of education without necessarily breaking the bank. We all know how expensive college debt is, especially on the medical school side and if we can have these opportunities here locally for our constituents I think this is a huge win.

I know I'm a big fan. I know Supervisor Lavagnino's a fan and I hope that we can take every opportunity from this board to promote this. I think this is a huge potential economic driver for the region, as well as for our health outcomes. So I'm just really excited about it as well and since we pulled this item, I'll make a motion to approve this Item A18. I'll second. Thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7627:28

Roll call on A18 please?

Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 motion to approve this Item A18. I'll second. Thank you. Roll call
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Supervisor Nielsen? Aye. Supervisor Williams? Aye Supervisor Kaps? Aye Supervisor Hartman? Aye And Chair Lavinino? Aye

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role27:40

Motion passes unanimously.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7627:41

Okay, let's read 822 into the record please.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role27:46

Chair Lavinino and members of the board administrative item number 22 is from the Public Works Department it is to consider recommendations regarding an agreement for services of independent contractor for Cathedral Oaks Complete Streets Project County project number 864 052, this is in the second district and there is a fourthest vote required on this item.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7628:06

Supervisor Caps?

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6728:07

Yeah thank you Chair I just wanted to highlight this because I get quite a lot of concerns about the Cathedral Oaks Road. In fact it did an event with the District Attorney because some referred to it as a DUI corridor so there's a lot of community concern. I just wanted to ask Mr. Sneddon to elaborate so that my constituents can know what's coming. Good progress thanks

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed28:30

Good morning Chair, Supervisor Caps. Chris Nen, Public Works. Yes this project is a direct result of your board's commitment to mobility and alternative transportation through the active transportation plan that you adopted And through that we were able to obtain almost $500,000 in grant funding to study the corridor. And this fits into sort of the larger regional strategic goals of creating multimodal corridors on the South Coast and across the county And this will tie with the work that the City of Goleta is doing, City of Santa Barbara, the County and Caltrans to really create interconnected systems of off road trail systems for people to use to improve safety mental and physical health and environmental impacts.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.6729:24

Thank you I appreciate it.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7629:26

Any other comments on that? Okay can I get a motion on 24 or 22 I'm sorry

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role29:32

So moved. Second.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7629:33

Moved and seconded, roll call please.

Roll-call vote 1–0 Moved and seconded, roll call · 4 under review
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Supervisor Nelson? Aye. Supervisor Williams?
UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role29:50

Supervisor Williams? Supervisor we didn't hear you I believe you froze but can you hear us this is for the vote on A22 I. Supervisor caps I supervisor Hartman I and chair Lavanino

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7630:10

I

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role30:10

motion passes unanimously

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7630:12

that takes us to a 24.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role30:17

Chair Lavanino members of the board administrative item number 24 is sponsored by supervisor Williams it is to consider recommendations regarding a resolution in support of proposition 35 provides permanent funding for medical health care services initiative

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7630:32

Supervisor Nelson.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response30:34

Yes, thank you, Charlie. I was looking for a roll call vote on this. I'm abstaining on this item.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7630:39

OK. Can I get a motion for 24?

CommentHarry RubinProposed · by introduction30:45

I'll move support and also just say this is necessary in order to increase Medi-Cal reimbursal rates, in order to better serve the large population that lives in Santa Barbara County below the poverty line. Supported by Lompoc Medical Center, Cottage Hospital, just about all of the hospitals in the state as well as the California Medical Association.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7631:12

Can I just ask a quick question? Just process-wise, so did this go through the Ledge Committee or did it come back with a recommendation from Ledger? I

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role31:27

don't believe so.

CommentHarry RubinProposed · by introduction31:29

I do not believe it went through the Ledge Committee because of timing. Okay. Making a recommendation on an election thing after the elections doesn't mean much

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7631:42

True. I OK, I'm going to abstain as well just because for me it's just process wise we you know, I don't want to go through all the propositions and try to vote up here about which ones we support and which ones we don't so but I understand this probably isn't a problem. So

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role32:02

I'll second.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7632:06

We've been seconded roll call vote

Roll-call vote 0–0 · 5 under review
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Supervisor Nelson abstained Supervisor Williams All right supervisor caps I supervisor Hartman

I

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role32:16

and chair Levin you

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7632:18

know.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role32:19

Motion passes 3, 0, 2,

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7632:23

And it's the last one a 25. Can we read a 25 to the record place.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role32:32

Chair Lavinino and members of the Board, Administrative Item Number 25 is sponsored by Supervisor Nelson. It is to approve the reappointment of Steve Strachan to the Parks Commission term ending June 30th, 2027 and this is in the 4th District.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7632:45

Supervisor Nelson?

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response32:51

Yes thank you Chair Lavinino I just wanted to take a moment to thank my Parks Commissioner Steve Strachan who is getting reappointed here today. You know, the first time I ever got appointed to something was at the Board of Supervisors it was Justin Tenno and I sat there all day to hear my name read in an A item and it got passed with a single vote so on occasion especially I like to pull these just to highlight and recognize those that are getting appointed And so I just want to thank Steve for his service. He's a former county employee, then he became a small business owner specializing in playgrounds for parks and once he retired and sold this business, he decided to devote his time completely to his community. He may be the most active Parks Commissioner we have in the county.

He is all over the place. You know some people call the 4th District Supervisor the Mayor of Orkut. If that's the case, Steve is the Deputy Mayor by far. The Orchid Christmas Parade. He's very involved with Notora and UMA, which are our preservation and our small business groups in the orchid area. And so I just want to thank Steve for his service. And I am enthusiastically looking forward to him serving for another four years as my parks commissioner. So with that, I'd like to move approval of A25.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7634:07

Great. I'll second that. Can we get a roll call please?

Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 move approval of A25. Great. I'll second that. Can we get a roll call
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Supervisor Nielsen? Aye. Supervisor Williams? Aye. Supervisor Kaps? Aye, Supervisor Hartman? Aye and Chair Lavinino? Aye
UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role34:23

motion passes unanimously

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7634:24

all right now is the time for members of the public to speak on items that are not on today's agenda Madam Clerk do we have any requests to speak on general public comment

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role34:32

yes chair Lavinino members of the board we have 14 requests to speak on general public comment today

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7634:41

So let's do a half hour of public comment so that'll be two minutes apiece. And we will close the roll of public comment, so if your name is on the list you can speak. If your name is not on the list, we'll catch you next week.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role34:59

And we will begin on Zoom with Karen Drown to be followed by Mark Shatillo. Karen we have unmuted you on our end. If you can please unmute on your end to provide your comments Karen again, we have unmuted you on our end if you can unmute on urine to provide your comments We will return to Karen Momentarily, we will begin here in Santa Barbara with Mark Shatillo to be followed by Sherry Benenhoven mark

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7635:42

Wait a second. Before you start, you got to keep that dude I love the hat. You're rocking it. You're rocking it. I like it. That's on my time. You get your time.

PresenterMark ShatilloAll Saints by the Sea who is the next door neighbor to the Miramar projectProposedself-stated35:52

Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the board. I'm Mark Shatillo and I'm here today on behalf of All Saints by the Sea who is the next door neighbor to the Miramar project. And as I submitted a letter for your board concerning the request that your board direct this project back to the Montecito Planning Commission while Article 2 does authorize regional projects to be designated in... The time's not running here so do I need to keep track of that? Oh no. Do we have it? Apologies.

We're going fast. Thank you. While the code does allow the County Planning Commission to take jurisdiction over this and other regional projects, affordable housing projects are out of character with the other ones. It also expressly authorizes your board to direct this to go to the Montecito Planning Commission and we would request that you do that. I've been in touch with Commissioner Sandy Stahl who was the third person necessary for a quorum on October 18th date And she is available and has reportedly transmitted that, and I was trying to clarify that with the clerk's office. So there will be a quorum on the 18th. We would request that your board does recognize this as a Montecito matter, as you're going to hear from other public commenters, and really needs to be heard and decided by the Montecito Planning Commission.

If your board cannot do that, I would ask that you direct staff to cancel the October 9th meeting of the Miramar Project at the County Planning Commission. A strict timeline of only five hearings, restricting the number of hearings will prejudice the public's ability to participate as is required under the California Coastal Act. So we, as explained in my letter, we feel strongly that it's important that we have maximum public access and opportunities to participate in this process so appreciate your taking paying attention to these concerns. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role37:59

We will now go to Sherry Bundenhoven to be followed by Philip Dracht. Sherry?

CommentSherry BundenhovenProposed38:05

Good morning Chair Lavinino, members of the board, CEO Monos Miyasato. On behalf of All Saints by the Sea I'm here to represent a request that Mark just made to reassign this project to the Montecito Planning Commission. That body has spent the last several months not just looking at the project both formally, but I think importantly as you each do. Each day listening to the people who live, work, participate in institutions of the community so they are well versed. They have kind of lived and breathed this for some time it's an important project for the community. And All Saints is the next door neighbor has a number of comments that we would like to make at the proper time with the proper commission and we're preparing to do that. And so it would be helpful, and I think important for that body to be responsible for hearing the matter.

We would also support of course Mark's note to reassign this to remove that first hearing preserving the county's and the community's ability To hear this, not be hamstrung if you will by a set number of hearings at this date feels really important to us. So we thank you for your time. I'll take, I have a moment. I will thank you for approving us to appear before you in two weeks to designate All Saints as an historic landmark in Montecito and we're grateful for your work on that.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role39:36

We will now go to Philip Dracht to be followed by Harry Robbin.

CommentPhilip DrachtProposedself-stated39:41

Good morning Chairman of the Board, members of the board I'm Philip Dracht and I live next to the Miramar and SB 330 divest local control and oversight over affordable housing projects we can't do anything about that But what we can do is take the authority that you have as the Board of Supervisors to vest the jurisdiction in the appropriate local agency, which would be the Montecito Planning Board.

Absent that, seconding Mark, if you can't do that then we need to preserve the meetings, the public hearings that are available. We only have five. Having a hearing on the 9th essentially burns one of those meetings. So respectfully request that you vest the Montecito Planning Commission We will now go to Harry Rubin to be followed by Paige Robinson. Good morning Supervisors, Chair.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed40:44

I'm a resident of Monticello Community and I'm here today representing over 270 residents within the community. And we urge you in this matter of the CPC where they were frivolously given the ability to make a decision on our behalf over this immense project, the Miramar expansion. We would like to see this go back to the MPC where it belongs in the first place. It never should have been removed. And given that we only have five hearings to discuss such a huge matter that's going to impact our community literally for the next hundred years, we would like to see the Board of Supervisors reinstate the MPC. Cancel that meeting on October 9th so we can get justice here for our community. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role41:31

We will now go to Paige Robinson to be followed by Brandon O'Brien.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed41:36

Good morning Board of Supervisors. We live directly across the street from the proposed Miramar Shopping Center as this development falls under SB 330 it's limited to five hearings please consider reversing most recent changes to the schedule and return this to the Planning Commission if not please cancel the county planning hearing on October 9th This will free up potential future meetings to hear additional details. We support affordable housing, but we're deeply concerned about the impact of this complex development on our tiny beachside community. We believe that under parking threatens the general public's coastal access. Located just one block from the ocean with a $40 Miramar Valley fee. No doubt shoppers and diners will fill the limited neighbor spaces historically used for surfers and beachgoers the coastal land plan The coastal land use plan of 2019 says the county shall take all necessary steps to protect and defend the public's constitutionally guaranteed rights of access to and along the shoreline as And the county shall provide increased opportunities for beach access and recreation.

The Miramar's current planning, parking and traffic analysis was conducted by the same firm whose questionable assumptions predictions of 2016 have been proven wrong. They are currently vastly under parked during peak times this year's analysis Reports on page 5 the coastal zoning ordinance requirement proposed project is 701 spaces. The parking supply of 480 does not satisfy the standard code required parking thus a parking modification will continue to be required this plan falls short 221 parking spaces and without peer review something the county should conduct please return this to the MPC This is an opportunity for you to demonstrate good governance and do the right thing. Thank you for your consideration.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role43:44

We will now go to Brandon O'Brien, to be followed by Marshall Miller. Brandon?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed43:53

Hello. Good morning Board of Supervisors. I'm here to ask that you do the right thing for the Montecito community. Please redesignate the Montecito Planning Committee as the hearing body for the Miramar Project. The MPC are the most experienced with the Montecito Community Plan and the reason that the committee was created over 20 years ago. The MPC should have jurisdiction to review and approve the project just as they did in both 2008 and 2015.

I also ask that you please cancel the County Planning Commission meeting on October 9th. With this SB 330 limit of hearing set at five, the meeting on the ninth will be wasted on the presentation of a staff report. We understand and recognize the strategy here but the public deserves the right to access the entire hearing process. Thank you very much.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role45:04

We will now go to Marshall Miller to be followed by Joe Cole. Marshall?

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CommentMarshall MillerProposedself-stated45:14

Hello there, I'm Marshall Miller. I'm appearing in front of you all today as the Chair of the Montecito Planning Commission As you all may know, this matter was agendized to be heard by the Montecito Planning Commission as of tomorrow. And that meeting had to be rescheduled. There has been a fair amount of dialogue about why and how that happened. And I want to clarify that the cause of why we were unable to have a quorum for tomorrow's meeting was the requirement from me as one of the commissioners to recuse myself.

As a parishioner of All Saints Church, I did not believe I had a conflict of interest. I don't have a financial interest in that and All Saints is not currently an appellant to the project. Another commissioner raised the topic and I referred the matter to county council for guidance and it was recommended that I recuse myself. In my mind, the decision to recuse myself is an explanation and a demonstration of good governance, and not dysfunction. That though I personally didn't find myself to have a conflict of interest that I think it is doing the delegated work of the Board of Supervisors to both respect County Council's guidance and to exercise an abundance of caution. At the September 18th meeting in which the October 2nd meeting needed to be rescheduled for the mirror because of my conflict we left that meeting with a new schedule moving forward And so the Miramar as a project in my mind was not inappropriately delayed.

The things I would like to focus on is that Montecito Planning Commission should have original jurisdiction for affordable housing projects and the allocation of RHNA numbers going forward. This should be the example for how community planning zoning works, both from Montecito and as a template for Orkut and other robust unincorporated communities In the county going forward so that

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role47:22

is your time.

CommentMarshall MillerProposedself-stated47:22

Thank you very much

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role47:27

We will now go to Joe Cole to be followed by Hillary Hauser Joe

PresenterJoe ColeanybodyProposedself-stated47:37

It's just a hat thing no, yeah

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7647:39

it doesn't matter You don't get an extra minute but

PresenterJoe ColeanybodyProposedself-stated47:43

it's our dermatologist The So my name is Joe Cole. I was on the Montecito Planning Commission 10 years ago when we approved the Miramar. I'm not a neighbor I'm not representing anybody, I'm just here in the public interest. I sent a letter in yesterday with a lot more detail. I haven't seen this much anger in Montecito since Goleta cityhood. It just reminds me of the same thing.

This isn't really about the Mayor Bar. Mr. Cruz can take care of himself. This really isn't about affordable housing. Nobody's against the affordable housing. With due respect to Abel County Council, I think there was a mistake in the way that the statute was interpreted that underlies this entire maneuver. What this is about is, I think the four of you need to put the First District into protective custody until Roy Lee shows up and I'll tell you why. In the more flexible private sector if somebody's dismissed, if an executive is fired You don't let them stay around for eight months. You might send their paycheck to the beach, but you don't let them work behind the scenes.

I'm involved, I don't talk in your door very often, but I'm involved in a long list of government-related projects. I was the founder of The Rings Group and worked on hot springs. I think one by one things are starting You know, be taken away from DOS. Cannabis now has been moved out. The Hot Springs Salute is...has a stakeholders meeting. Roy Lee's had four meetings with people. I could go through the rest of the projects but I don't have time. So two things.

Anything that you read in the paper it should come before you. There are international stories about hot springs and never ever not one minute here The second thing is, for all the reasons I talk about in the letter, send this back to the MPC for original jurisdiction. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role49:53

We will now go to Hilary Hauser to be followed by Jim Thomas. Hilary?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role49:59

Good morning Chair Lavagnino, Supervisors. Hilary Hauser, Heal the Ocean. I'm here to say ditto to everything you've just heard. And we are keeping our eye on this project, not here to say yay or nay about it but the process. I should think that this board would really want to have a full vetting of the issues before come to you and what I'm seeing when when Montecito Planning was I'm going to call the meeting to order.

In this list of hearings, there are like three CPCs and no one MPC. Anyway I think the schedule is a mess and I don't think it serves the board well when they come to you. And so I'm going to echo what the others are saying. The easiest thing is just delete the CPC meeting of the 9th. Let's at Montecito Planning Thank you very much. 10th, the October 9 meeting deleted.

SB 33 is squeezing this county. A lot of people are upset it's a necessary issue but we're trying to adjust so to take away any part of the public process that is struggling with this is not a good idea and once again I don't think it serves your board well to delete Montecito planning. So thank you.

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CommentHilary HauserProposed51:59

We

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role52:00

will now go to Jim Thomas, to be followed by Martha Hassanplug. Jim?

GuestJim ThomasFire ChiefProposedself-stated52:06

Morning Sheriff. Morning Board. My name is Jim Thomas. Between 1990 and 2002 I was the elected Santa Barbara County Sheriff-Coroner. Between 1993 and 1996 I was a Santa Barbara County Fire Chief In addition to my duties as Sheriff, I start that only to make a point and that is that I am familiar with Santa Barbara County Public Safety. A few days ago, my wife had a medical emergency in the early morning hours at our home in Solvang.

I called 9-1-1, explained the situation and requested medical assistance. Within five minutes, a county fire engine with three firefighters and a paramedic arrived. I expected an ambulance to arrive as well for transportation of the hospital because she wasn't initially responding to any of them. They told me that the ambulance would be coming from Lompoc and would be at least 30 minutes away.

That surprised me, because there was an AMR office about two blocks from my house. I was told that they were not stationed in Solvang that evening and they would have to come from Lompoc apparently due to ongoing staffing issues. Well she was treated by the paramedic and regained consciousness They called the hospital and we talked to the on-duty physician. And based on that telephone discussion, we agreed that she could remain at home and it turned out okay.

In an emergency would you expect the fire department or the Sheriff's Department to take 30 plus minutes to respond? I don't think so. My point is if AMR cannot or will not staff their stations for whatever reason then their job should be handed to the county fire paramedics with county ambulances. Do our community a favor, it will save lives. Thank you. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role53:52

We will now go to Martha Hassanplug to be followed by Dennis Anderson. Martha?

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CommentMartha HassanplugProposed54:03

Good morning. My name is Martha has some plug I live in Rancho Santa Barbara mobile home park on old mill road near the intersection of Kyrie Al. A long block from Highway 154 and State Street. I want you to understand the location of our senior park because on Calle Real, a boy on a bicycle was hit by a car on his way to school and died. It was and is a horrible tragedy for his parents, for his classmates, for his school, for his neighbors.

He lived in the all-age park that faces Calle Real. After the accident, a pedestrian bicycle path was constructed. It is used daily by students going to La Colina Middle School, Hope Elementary and Bishop Diego High School. I have submitted a photo at the start of the pathway which is named the Jake Boisel Pathway. The secondary tragedy was that this trail was constructed after the child died.

This is the number one reason that senior mobile home parks should not be converted to all age parks. All mobile home parks are frequently built near railroad tracks, major expressways and freeways, not safe places for children. I urge the boy I urge the board to issue a moratorium on conversion of senior parks until a zoning overlay can be enacted. We must respect the issues that all age parks contend with, thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7655:52

Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role55:53

We will now go to Dennis Anderson to be followed by Karen Hauenstein. Dennis?

CommentHilary HauserProposed56:03

Good morning. I also live in Rancho Santa Barbara Mobile Home Park, and I'm here. We're asking the county to initiate a moratorium on converting any senior mobile home parks to all-age parks until a senior mobile home park overlay can be enacted. I understand that Ventura has one, the city and the county of Ventura has one, and the City of Santa Barbara has one. We're asking the county to also Get one of these overlays enacted and to stop any mobile home parks from converting until that can happen.

And so that's my main message. And I also wanted to say that after, I had some trepidation moving into a mobile home park. I always lived in the standard neighborhood and I was pleasantly surprised and it's a wonderful place to live and it's a great, and I will start to wonder why aren't there parks for families? Mobile home parks, they're affordable When they make these developments and they say 20% affordable housing, that's not making it. We need a place that's set up for families. These places could have sidewalks or playgrounds, playing fields, things that were appropriate for children which these parks were never designed for.

So that's just something to put in your minds. I began to immediately wonder why? This is affordable. That's the problem. Nobody can afford to live here anymore. That would help. So that's what I have to say this morning, thank you for providing time to listen to

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.7657:43

us. Thank You Dennis so an FYI too that on our agenda next week actually we're having a full hearing on mobile home park discussion so thank

CommentHilary HauserProposed57:53

you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role57:55

We will now go to Karen Hauenstein to be followed by we'll return to zoom and attempt Karen drone. Karen?

CommentKaren HauensteinProposed58:05

Hello Supervisors, good morning. So what we're hearing here today is a lot of complex development issues that are coming up in our community because of things that have been hoisted on us by the state, developments that need to happen but everybody is watching the strategies that have been implemented by the Board of Supervisors I have seen land use code changed, but not through planning.

Joan? I've seen strategies implemented that denied us our ability to respond to laws that are changing our lives. And that's why you see all these people showing up here more and more lately, because they see it impacting their communities. When Montecito is talking about these issues that they're having with the Miramar development and exactly how it's happening where this development is going and who's profiting from them we have the same situation going on up in North County In Mission Hills.

And the people there are not happy at all, so let's get talking. We all need to be talking on these subjects in front of you telling you how we feel because that's... You guys serve us, not the other way around and you don't serve the developers or the owners who are going to be making money in perpetuity from the state Why is the development in Santa Maria still empty?

Let's go guys. And we will

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:00:08

return to Zoom with Karen Drone. Karen, and Karen we have unmuted you. Oh looks like you were able to unmute. Great.

CommentGeneral ServicesProposed · by introduction1:00:22

I'm a senior citizen, I've lived in the Montecito area for over 50 years. I have health and mobility issues. I would like to be able to enjoy walking through the beach and enjoying what we all benefit from in our community. However, the parking situation currently in front of the Miramar makes it often impossible for me to do that. There are so many places filled by people who appear to be guests. Handicap parking is filled with people who don't have placards or identify a license plates and I think this whole matter really should be Discussed by the Montecito Planning Commission so that we can keep our community as lovely as it is. I recently read A String of Pearls by Pearl Chase, who very much talked about the beauty of our area and what we need to do to keep it as lovely as it is Thank you very much.

And that concludes

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:01:38

public comment for today

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:01:42

Okay. I'll ask our planning director if there's anything we heard differently at public comment that is different than the determination that was made by county council, and county council do you want to weigh in at all? Or Lisa?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:02:18

Mister chair members of the board. I sent around a memo a little over a week ago that described what's provided for in Chapter 2 of the county code and that is that affordable housing projects in the Montecito community plan area are to be heard by the County Planning Commission and so we went ahead and scheduled it for the County Planning Commission, we are accommodating a recommendation From the Montecito PC.

So we will go to the County Planning Commission on October 9th, the Montecito PC for a recommendation on the 18th and then back to the County Planning Commission on the 1st. That provides for many hearings three in total for the public to participate in public comment will be taken at each one of those hearings and It's my understanding in working with County Council that because we've agendized and scheduled the item for the 9th, that we Just opening the hearing and canceling it or continuing it would eat up one of those five hearings.

So our plan is to continue on the scheduled path and provide adequate, and I think ample opportunity for the public to comment.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:03:41

Okay thank you. Any questions? I have

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response1:03:48

a question. No, it's not my district but I think we've all gotten extensive comments from our offices about this just on the process side. Is it a may or shall go to the Planning Commission? I think that's important to understand as you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:04:02

know.

CommentSherry BenenhovenProposed · by introduction1:04:10

Supervisor Nielsen, the county code says the following shall remain within the jurisdiction of the County Planning Commission and affordable housing projects is one of those items.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response1:04:20

Unless expressly?

CommentSherry BenenhovenProposed · by introduction1:04:22

Unless the Board of Supervisors directs that the Montecito Planning Commission shall have jurisdiction. And then if it remains with the County Planning Commission, then there's a section that says the Montecito Planning Commission may provide a recommendation. So it's that it shall be in the county jurisdiction unless the board directs otherwise and then the Montecito Planning Commission may make a recommendation.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response1:04:45

And is that for all affordable housing projects or any project that has an affordable housing component?

CommentSherry BenenhovenProposed · by introduction1:04:51

Yes, it is. It's initiation consideration recommendation or decisions on applications and there's a list of items And the last one of those is affordable housing.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response1:05:01

Okay, I think that's Interesting and this isn't before us obviously today so we can't get much further into it but When would we be able to have a chance to potentially weigh in on? Our discretion on these types of things

CommentSherry BenenhovenProposed · by introduction1:05:20

Mr. Chair members of the board, this particular project would not come to you unless it is appealed and then if it is appealed then your board would have a de novo hearing and due process hearing on that

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response1:05:33

But I guess it's more the broader process issue that I'm concerned with within this project specifically. But if affordable housing projects now will circumvent the Montecito Planning Commission moving forward, I think that's something without any type of

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:05:47

board. All

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response1:05:48

the

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:05:49

affordable housing projects in Montecito?

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response1:05:51

Yeah. Well, I mean it's not well there at my understanding is five or six projects that have an affordable piece to it. So if that's now kind of a fast track and maybe that's a positive thing for those who want more affordable housing as a policy piece but it sounds like you know that was anticipated probably when that initial statute was written was understanding what would be coming down from the state with a level of affordability so I do think there's maybe discussion this board needs to happen at some time to discuss the process I don't want to talk about the project. I don't know enough about the project to comment on it, but the process is something that I see as something that we may want to look at in the future. Again, I know it's not agendized today, but I'm just trying to understand that and also the public could understand that as well.

CommentSherry BenenhovenProposed · by introduction1:06:33

And Mr. Chair, members of the board, I would just say that you are not agendized to discuss changing the county code today so I'd just recommend we not discuss that now, but that is something that could be considered by the board in the future.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:06:45

Okay. All right, thank you Miss Plowman and Rachel. That concludes public comment and we're going to take a 10 minute break before we move on to RCRC and our departmental agenda. All right, we're going to reconvene this meeting of the County Board of Supervisors. Madam Clerk you have a quick announcement?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:07:21

Chair Lavagnino and members of the board my announcement is no longer needed but thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:07:26

What's that?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:07:26

No longer

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:07:27

needed. No longer needed all right cool those are the best kind all right let's go to departmental item number one

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:07:33

Chair Lavinino and members of the Board, departmental item number one is from the County Executive Office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a rural county representatives of California, RCRC member agency strategic plan update.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:07:47

Good morning Mr. Ferguson. Yes it is. And if you push the button on the side it will lift it up for you.

CommentCraig FergusonProposedself-stated1:07:55

I heard that.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:07:56

Oh okay.

CommentCraig FergusonProposedself-stated1:07:57

Pretty fancy. I'm Craig Ferguson. I've been at RCRC 17 years now. Prior to that, I was in the private world with Citibank and Raymond James and all those good places but moved to California 17 years ago and it's the first time I've been to Santa Barbara which is disgraceful. Disgraceful for me, not Santa Barbara but Santa Barbara is beautiful. So yeah this is not an action item this is just an update we split the team up to come visit counties for counties like Santa Barbara there's no reason to draw straws Trinity County on the other hand we kind of Fight to who's going to opt out of that, but it's just because of the drive and how to get there and what have you. So it's pretty much our CEO Patrick when he started he thought it'd be great if we visit every one about 40 member counties every year and so this is my time with you.

And so I'm gonna push the play button right? Okay So RCRC was formed in 72 and back then there were nowhere near 40 member counties. And at this point we're actually having to fight counties away because there's a lot of counties wanting to join that aren't necessarily rural Supervisor Nelson had a little pushback from some of our more rural counties, but we were very happy to bring Santa Barbara in. So that's taking us up to 40 of the 58 counties are members of RCRC which puts 40 board members on RCRC, Supervisor Nelson being the delegate and Supervisor Labanino being the alternate if I'm correct right? Yeah.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:09:46

That's correct but Bob never misses a meeting so...

CommentCraig FergusonProposedself-stated1:09:51

So if you look at this is just going to be an update on our service as well as its affiliates and we've got a couple of relatively new affiliates which are within some exciting stuff with. You can see our CRC which you guys even see a screen or is it on. So the focus, the divisions are Government Affairs, Economic Development, Business Development, Administration and Finance. And you can see the list of affiliates which I'll touch briefly on when we get to each one of those.

RCRC being the mothership, we're all employed by RCRC and then the affiliates, we manage those affiliates and then charge the time from RCRC that we spend on the affiliates. And that charge of time goes The finances that are made with those affiliates go back to RCRC in order to keep RCRC moving forward. Each county pays annual dues, but the dues don't come near as probably 1% of the actual revenue that RCRC makes because the dues are actually very light. The strategic plan includes equitable access which right now is broadband housing health services Impactful advocacy state and federal advocacy innovative approaches regulatory engagement healthy communities forest wildfire water resiliency infrastructure economic development, I'll touch Quite a little bit about the forest resiliency.

We're working on and a Nonprofit that we started to focus specifically on that the internal side is operational excellence human resources to technology but the typical company type structure and our vision is RCRC is the premier advocate and innovative service provider for rural counties in California. And here you can see where we focus as I said forest health, wildfire water drought all the way down to you know working with the CPUC we've been working very much with them especially in the last two three years uh uh we always have on on the RCRC side and Even for the you know from from infrastructure to electricity to what have you. We, you know our source is a lobbying advocacy group we know we can't write bills where we can certainly support or be against and so we've gotten very close with the CPUC as well as with one of our Joint powers authorities that we recently started where we're focused on broadband.

We've been working heavily with the CPC on that and quite well on the federal policy areas, forest health to infrastructure same thing. We've got two ad hoc committees, the Williamson Act to affecting the retention of farmland and its place in California's counties and also the road infrastructure. And when I say ad hoc few of the board members on RCRC are board members for this ad hoc to focus on these specific areas One of the affiliates that's been around since 93 is Golden State Finance Authority.

Golden State Finance Authority was formed by RCRC, and each affiliate is a complete separate entity. Separate financials, separate audited financials but they were formed by RCRC and then others that were formed by Golden State Finance Authority and focuses on affordable housing I'm almost afraid to say that word right now. Is there an audience? No one here, but they thought of something.

So, Golden State's mostly residential low-to-moderate income homebuyers. We've financed over $16.5 billion in mortgage financing for low-to moderate income home buyers focusing on down payment assistance The number one obstacle for first-time homebuyers is the actual down payment and GSFA has provided over $5.7 million in the actual down payment assistance, but over Over $16.5 billion in financing, you can see even in Santa Barbara which doesn't seem like a lot out of the 85,000 families we've helped 532 individuals. Santa Barbara is a different animal to some of the other areas and the affordability and availability is much more like Sonoma or Napa would be where we get similar numbers to this but the mission is still there to support low-to-moderate income homebuyers Golden State also does energy financing.

We've done over a billion in whole house energy retrofits, commercial retrofits over the years and still continue we don't do residential that much anymore but we're focusing mainly on commercial energy retrofit programs Another entity, this one is National Homebuyers Fund and does similar things to what GSFA does but does it nationally. And we're in every state in the country and we provide down payment assistance to low to moderate income home buyers.

And we've helped over 45,000 families nationwide, over $11 billion in financing. You can see here we've done 39 524,000 just in Santa Barbara but National Homebuyers Fund doesn't really focus much on California. It's really focused on outside of California leaving GSFA to California. A new program that started I'm surprised you guys have if I can read that right five or six employees that have used the program already when Pat first started he came from Yolo County and he suggested we put a program together for county employees, for counties to try and retain or bring employees to their counties. A lot of the counties have trouble keeping employees and even obtaining home ownership for them so this program is similar to the others we provide down payment assistance in this sense it's a second mortgage but there's no payments on the second mortgage There's 0% interest on the second mortgage and it helps up to 5.5 percent of the actual purchase price of the home in down payment assistance, and It's only repayable if you if you sell a refinance But there's no payments on that And I think we're up to about 117 this number here shows as with July 119 were further than that We're about you know Probably 127 counties, county employees that have used this program.

So it's been good. It's exciting and a lot of the board members have been very supportive of it. They approved $3 million dollars of Golden State money, Golden State Finance Authority money and we're close to 2 million I'm assuming when we get to that 3 million we'll go back to the Board and they're gonna unanimously agree to continue it. Golden State Connect Authority is a relatively new Joint Powers Authority, same members as RCRC, same members as GSFA.

Pretty much most of the same board members and this was formed to pretty much build broadband in rural California. Build own and operate a broadband infrastructure fiber infrastructure in rural California We were hit hard when COVID started. We realized that most of the kids in rural California couldn't go to school because there was no internet and still isn't, and the big guys out there like AT&T and Verizon and Comcast don't quite see the financial benefits of working in rural California, even though they don't like other people trying to come in and doing it. And as I said we've been working with a CPUC. We've partnered with an entity out of Utah called Utopia Fiber. They're the largest municipality owned internet fiber infrastructure in the country.

And they've got over, in the last five years, they've got over 60,000 consumers now and their approach is they build it, they own it, they operate it but then the internet service providers, they're not providing the actual service. Anyone can join their network and they call it open access. It's kind of like an airport that brings planes in and you get to choose which airplane you want to fly. Here as a consumer, you get to choose which internet service provider you want to use and they've got about 15 on their network And if you don't like the one you're using, you can swap it in a few minutes to another one.

I live in Sacramento. I'm seven miles from downtown. I have one option as Comcast. They're actually not too bad. I like them but I've got one option and I'm seven miles from Sacramento. So the idea here is to build it and do an open access and invite whoever wants to come play, play. We've been working with CPUC because we've got to finance this and the idea of financing is going to be private activity bonds.

And in order to get investors interested in this initiative, we're working with the state to provide what we call a loan loss reserve so We're well on the way there. We've gotten grants, as you can say EDA grants, later grants. We're in the middle of getting FFA grants and so it's exciting we're actually very excited about this and we're excited to bring our broadband to rural California And then the other exciting yet sometimes controversial company we have is Golden State Natural Resources. And this one was formed, I mean since RCR has been around it's been focused on you know forest resiliency forests you know water fires you know etc. It is rural California and this is what we deal with.

Several years ago we formed a company called Golden State Natural Resource. The idea here is to go into the forest and pull all the dead Wood out, which is really what fuels the fires. It's just dead wood sitting in there So we got a 20-year master stewardship agreement with the US Forest Service They own 80% of the forest in California and they're going to provide us access to get into these areas, pull out the deadwood and at this point the idea is to turn that fuel into pellets and sell the pellets to Europe and Japan because they are Asian not to be too specific.

Because Europe and they've all gotten out of nuclear, they're still using coal. They want to get away from coal and pellets are much cleaner burning fuel than coal. We partnered with a company called Drax. They were actually at our conference if any of you guys were there. They were on the panel talking about their initiatives in California. producer and user of pellets in the world, and they're based out of the United Kingdom. And they've got their Houston headquarters and they're building a facility up in Longview Washington. We purchased two pieces of land one in Lassen County one in Tuolumne County. And the idea there is to build a facility in each one of those to generate the making of pellets. And Drax has gotten us along the way because they know a lot more about pellets than we do but that's the idea behind it If we don't get to the point of pellets, we're open-minded.

But right now, we're in an environmental review process because anytime you can look at the forest, environmentalists come up to you and we've been doing this review for a long time. Our general counsel Arthur has been working just with his team just working day and night on this. And we're going to be submitting this review on the 15th of this month And we'll expect to see litigation coming back from the environmentalists and you know, we'll fight it. We put money aside but we're going to get to that point of approval and that's going to give us the go ahead to work with investors, with equity investors, bond investors, directors behind us so that's looking good there.

And another thing exciting. You know the broadband is exciting. You know we've been focused on housing for so long and advocacy and lobbying but now we're doing broadband and forest resiliency which It's pretty cool. Another joint powers authority we have this been around for a long time you guys on a member of it, but it is growing its membership and they focus on Recycle, you know oil mattresses helping counties with hazardous waste management programs etc so Supervisor Nelson, if you want to come to one of these meetings, take a look. I know they've grown from about nine members to 26 in the last two or three years but Santa Barbara's probably got their own system here that works quite well and I can imagine.

And then a newest, not really newest. This has been dormant for a long time it used to be called Rural Alliance Inc is now called Rural Advancement Institute and this is a 501c3 and this is to focus on bringing legislators and politicians from the bigger areas like Santa Barbara to rural California that was a joke Santa Barbara, yeah. But no, San Francisco, L.A., San Diego and they've already done a tour in Mariposa County which was very successful and very popular and the idea is to bring legislators to rural California because you know 80% of the land and 15% of the population they don't really care because there's no votes out there but you got to come see issues with water and forests and fire and what have you And it's a 501c3 and we're getting funding for this.

PG&E has donated money, I forget the name of the Native American tribe out of Tehama they've provided a pile of money into this and several of our lending partners that we work with the GSFA and NHF have thrown some money in as a 501c3 is tax deductible and all that so hoping to grow this and just bring you know powerful education to rural California and I think that's it

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:23:41

Thank you very much. Supervisor Nielsen?

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response1:23:43

Yes, thank you Chair Lavigno. Just since we were just on this last slide about the Rural Advancement Institute not only is it doing bringing legislators from urban areas into the rural areas. It's also doing studies, case studies and I think we have one on wildfire resiliency which they're actually partnering with UCSB to actually write this professor there that we were contracting with to move that project forward so there's another Santa Barbara connection. I want to first off just thank Craig for being here and then I would also want to thank You all as my colleagues for allowing me to serve on RCRC. It's something I didn't expect when, you know I knew a lot of what I was coming into when I got on this board since I had been here for awhile but I came on just as we got into RCRC and I just wanted to acknowledge that was partly Supervisor Hartman that had recommended it to me.

We were trying to solve some rural crime issues, and she said hey here's some good things you're having at RCRC. Then there was a friend of mine, Supervisor Paschong up in San Luis Obispo County said hey I think this would be a good fit and something that you really enjoy Bob let's see if you guys can become members And in 2021 during the shutdowns and remote, I think it was actually the first meeting we were back in person. We reaffirmed their agenda to be added to the organization at that time they only had 38 members. I think it was approved 37-1.

37 members, yeah no 38 members. 37 to one I think Lassen County my good friend Aaron Albel voted against me. He regrets it now I think but you know there was concerns about what Santa Barbara County meant to a rural organization. CSAC sees us as a suburban organization and as I like to remind everybody Santa Barbara County is really kind of a microcosm of our state in many ways we have the coastal areas, we have the rural areas, we have ag, we have oil We have tourism, we have it all rolled up into one and one county. And so we have those rural populations and I'm proud to represent a lot of them including seven unincorporated communities which is very similar to a lot of my colleagues on the RCRC board you know? So we have some of these counties that don't even actually have a city in them.

So you gotta start thinking about what that means to the organization as well as... So we find commonalities in some of these things And it's been, I think a lot of value. You're seeing advocacy. We often turn to RCRC when we want to bring partners along to advocate for the state. I know when we had the storms last year and we were looking for other partners to lobby the governor on a state of emergency and I picked up the phone and I called RCRC and I was able to tap in right away with some relationships that we have there that have brought value back to our community by being able to unite around common causes So that's been something that's been really exciting and a great asset for our county.

As you guys have all seen, RCRC is very entrepreneurial. And as you heard there, yeah that's right. Only 1% of their budget comes from actually dues from counties and CSAC I think it's a bigger piece because they got a lot more counties that might have revenue they can spend on this type of thing. A lot of our rural counties don't have the budgets to be able to invest in advocacy and so what RCRC does is use these joint powers authorities to be very entrepreneurial and not only make money, but serve certain functions like housing affordability. As you guys all saw that we actually have six of our employees that have taken advantage of the home down payment assistance. That also brings back some revenue to RCRC that defrays some of the costs of running such a robust organization.

I'm really excited about the two other organizations that we have as well. You guys heard about the Forest Resiliency Project Again, being a joint powers authority we actually get to do our own CEQA documents. So that's also really important as well when you do something as robust and as exciting as a forest resiliency project which is again this is going to have a huge amount of greenhouse gas savings when you talk about cleaning the forests preventing wildfires and then going ahead and getting these pellets that I know that our partners in Europe and Asia are really excited about These California wood products that would be able to, they'd be able to use instead of coal. I mean this is huge stuff that's coming out in this really small organization.

Getting back to the Golden State Connect Authority. I think Craig was a little modest on this organization. We've actually applied for over $1 billion in grants through the state and federal government. We will be the largest rural provider in the nation when we're all said and done here, and as you heard there, there's going to be the ability for rural users to actually get to choose their provider which creates obviously more competition, leads to lower prices Some of our rural residents are those that at least have the ability to afford internet service. It's going to be considerably less expensive than Starlink, which has been something that a lot of our rural partners have had to take advantage.

And during that process, you know, Golden State Connect Authority, the joint powers will actually receive a piece of each of those monthly bill. So that's kind of how we get paid back as well as we have a business model because we're not a for-profit entity. We don't need to have the same type of return so we're able to reinvest that in paying down those loans for that infrastructure and so we're able to take grant dollars partner that with the business model to really do something that the private sector would not be able to do otherwise. So it's really exciting there.

Also on the advocacy side, former Supervisor Hart, Assemblyman Hart has worked with us on sponsoring legislation with RCRC at this point so that connection is strong and we're really excited about that. You know one of the pitches to the organization when San Barbara County came in was because we are kind of the rural California and we tend to be a little bit more conservative. And so it's kind of, you know, more red and obviously, you know, San Barbara County, you know, a lot of our legislators are a little bit more progressive and make, you know, understanding that our issues aren't really on one side or the other there that we could be able to partner in there and have access there. And I think Sibling Men Heart has really jumped in and been a good partner with us as well.

So I wanted to acknowledge that I think Assemblyman Hart. On my side, being a member as your delegate, I'm serving on the Ad Hoc Committee for Road Infrastructure. Last year I served on the Ad Hoc Committee on Insurance Rates and so we had a lot of meetings and made some recommendations and changed some of our policy planks to address the issues of homeowners or insurance that's been an issue across Our state, and I know a lot of our constituents, I know a lot of your constituents, Supervisor Hartman have been hit by that. And we have a seat at the table in those discussions. Obviously they're not fixed but you know we're making sure those voices are heard. I also serve as the Region 5 member of the leadership team at RCRC so I represent Tulare, Imperial, Merced, San Luis Obispo.

San Bernardino, Monterey, Kings and Santa Barbara County on our executive board. And in this December I will be running for their second vice chair position and hopefully in the future will be serving as a chair of RCRC. So I just wanted to thank again my colleagues. I want to thank Craig for being here and the public and my constituents for loaning me out to serve on this. I do think we get a good return on that investment. And so I just wanted to highlight those things and thank you guys all for that opportunity.

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CommentCraig FergusonProposedself-stated1:31:30

It goes without saying the board highly respects you, even though there was pushback from Madison County. That's all different now. You speak softly and carry a big stick. Just on touch base on a few other items, Alpine County sits on the Golden State Connect Authority as vice chair of the board. He still has to use dial-up. I mean he's got nothing. And then just as the umbrella entity type of RCRC, we've given back over $5 million to fire victims to help them with short-term rents or hotel stays what have you. We still do that on a continuous basis and we funded or still fund a human trafficking education awareness where This non-profit goes to all the schools. It's amazing how much human trafficking sits in rural California as opposed to where you think, you know LA or San Diego but rural California is really bad about that and they go to all the high schools and then teach on Being aware and how to know and what have you.

And then there's a foster youth laptop program that we fund, so we actually have been handing out laptops to foster youth in several of our counties. So there is a give back too from RCRC and the affiliates. We do have a mission and our board is made up of public officials and that's where the mission comes from. So I appreciate your time. Appreciate Santa Barbara.

Have a good look around today and maybe walk down to the beach and

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:33:08

see

CommentCraig FergusonProposedself-stated1:33:10

what

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:33:10

you got. Supervisor Capps?

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:33:12

Yeah, thank you. I just particularly want to zone in on the well I want to say thanks Supervisor Nelson for your leadership on this and To have a chance to hear more about it. I've been kind of curious So it's good to fill in the gaps and see the robust agenda So thanks for your service and for you for being here today and welcome to Santa Barbara Related to broadband. I just wanted to I saw health access as listed is one of the topics Are you seeing gains or?

I'm going to start with you, Mr. Chairman.

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CommentCraig FergusonProposedself-stated1:33:52

We haven't dug in the ground yet, but that is one of the highest initiatives because rural California suffered across the board. But health is huge in that sense. I mean even something as crazy as electric cars. You need internet to even work those things out in rural California so there's a lot that goes with it. in the ground and operating by middle of next year. We've got work to do, we're still working on the financing side, the CPUC. We were looking at $450 million from the CPUC and we were going to get it until the governor just slashed every single bit of budget now we're looking at 50 million but that's still gonna be helpful because we're working with a banking firm to underwrite the bonds and if they know they got 50 million sitting there they can go talk to those investors who will Throw in money knowing that that's sitting there if we fall short on revenues, but history is the same bank and firm does it for Utopia and they haven't fallen short on revenues at all.

Just the way the bonds are structured and what have you. But yes health facilities absolutely is very necessary in rural California.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:34:56

Thank

CommentCraig FergusonProposedself-stated1:34:56

you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:34:58

Supervisor Hartman

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:35:00

So I think this is RCRC's first presentation to our board and thank you so much for coming. And thank you Supervisor Nelson for jumping in with both feet, I know that you found this very rewarding and I think it really reaps benefits for our county. I wanted to mention particularly Assemblymember Hart's initiative and your county council I understand or your council has been extremely effective in working with us and the broadband is just extraordinary I think has helping us realize some of our goals. I did have one question, I think in some things I've seen economic development rural recreation were featured. I didn't see that in your presentation today and wondered if you could address

CommentCraig FergusonProposedself-stated1:35:46

that? Rural recreation I'll jump on

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response1:35:54

that one. Yes, so our past chair Teeter from Butte County made that one of his focus as the chairman he's now our immediate past past chair and so he had been focusing on rural recreation it's one of his passion being you know off-road vehicles is and so he's brought a lot of that to our board we actually have annual meetings and we have a list of speakers that come and that's been one of the recent focused in a lot of the A lot of the counties have been grabbing onto that because they're seeing the opportunity for economic development through tourism. We're seeing a lot of the old mining routes, great mountain bikes routes as well and it's a way to bring people out there, as well as an opportunity for hotels or Airbnbs and what that brings to a community.

So it's definitely something that we talk about. I don't think it's any of the actual initiatives per se from the RCRC strategic plan. Do you know what's coming up? Yeah, we got a strategic plan review here. But it is part of the conversation. That's again what we get to come out this is that every meeting that we have and it's every other month that we actually all meet up in Sacramento together in the same room and we at least devote half an hour to members concerns and where we talk about different things. And then when we have our board meetings or conferences which we just finished a conference up in Sonoma County last week We have various speakers, and CSAC's good. They've got their little breakouts but I would say that RCRC takes it to another level.

And then all those speakers that are there are usually there the entire time and mingle with you so it's a really good environment. By the way, you all are invited. Some counties actually have all five supervisors come to that and I apologize for not inviting you guys in the past. Our annual meeting will be in Santa Barbara County in two years next year It will be up at Tahoe, so it might not be too hard to convince some of you guys to go up there.

So yeah we're definitely working on rural recreation as something that a lot of us are interested in and as you know I am as

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:37:54

well. And my last question has to do could you describe in a little more detail about the Williamson Act and what you're doing on that?

CommentCraig FergusonProposedself-stated1:38:02

I'm going to play a little humble game here and so I'm on the business side, not the advocacy side or the lobbying side. So when I start speaking about stuff that I don't look for right now that I don't really know much about. That's when if Mary Ann was here she'd kick butt on that but Craig not so much, but

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response1:38:25

I don't know if

CommentCraig FergusonProposedself-stated1:38:26

you sat on the ad hoc for that one? I know you did the road infrastructure

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response1:38:30

one. I'm not on the ad hoc one for that one but I know about what some of the activity they're involved in. They just want to make sure they have a voice obviously subvention is an issue but there are a lot of new Bills coming in out of Sacramento that are defining what agriculture is, whether that's solar or other things. And how does that impact these communities? And so I really think about that is about obviously subvention every county wants funding for William SAC. But the second part is just having a seat at the table for some of those discussions and some of those things and talk about what some of the unintended consequences might be that Sacramento legislators aren't really fully contemplating in the Williams Act conversation.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:39:08

Well thank you again so much for being here.

CommentCraig FergusonProposedself-stated1:39:10

Thank you. And I actually went off-roading with Supervisor Teeters, so I should have known about the recreational thing before up in Oroville and it was a lot of fun. Yep. Thank you everyone for your time.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:39:22

Thank you is there any request to speak from the public on this matter?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:39:25

Chair Lovenino and members of the board we have no requests to speak from the public on this item.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:39:29

Thank you very much Craig for being here appreciate it. So there is recommended actions A & B

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response1:39:36

I would like to move staff recommended actions A and B. Second.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:39:42

We'll do a roll call vote, please.

Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 move staff recommended actions A and B. Second. We'll do a roll call
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Supervisor Nelson? Aye. Supervisor Williams? Aye. Supervisor Caps? Aye Supervisor Hertman? Aye And Chair Lavanino? Aye

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:39:56

Motion passes unanimously.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:39:58

Okay Madam Clerk can we please read departmental item number two into the record

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:40:03

Chair Lavinino and members of the board, departmental item number two is from the Information Technology Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an update on the countywide information technology strategic plan ITSP.

PresenterChris CherguinInformation Technology DepartmentProposedself-stated1:40:22

Good morning. Good morning. Just want to make sure we have our slides ready to go before I start. Let's hope you

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:40:28

don't have any computer issues.

PresenterChris CherguinInformation Technology DepartmentProposedself-stated1:40:30

Yeah, that would not be

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:40:31

good.

PresenterChris CherguinInformation Technology DepartmentProposedself-stated1:40:35

All right well good morning Chair Lavagnino and members of the board. I'm Chris Cherguin the County's Chief Information Officer and Director of the Information Technology Department. I am here to provide a brief overview of the new countywide IT strategic plan Before I begin, I'd like to thank both the ITD leadership team and the countywide IT strategic plan steering committee for their instrumental role in the development of this plan.

They all played or they're, I should say I'm grateful for their efforts and the hundreds of hours that they put into this plan. The county's previous IT strategic plan was created back in 2018 and had become outdated. With the formation of the IT department as a standalone department in 2023, it was time for the county to have a new IT strategic plan. It was important that this new plan aligned with the county's renew initiatives and the county's current goals I also wanted this plan to have a true countywide vision and scope, incorporating the needs of all departments and not just the Information Technology Department.

At the onset of developing this new IT strategic plan we formed a steering committee with a representative from each of the County's functional groups. We also met with representatives from every department to gather feedback on multiple occasions In addition, we sent a survey to all County IT staff, department heads and county leadership to gather their input and ideas.

We received over 150 responses to the survey. This collaborative approach provided a wide range of feedback and ensured this new strategic plan was comprehensive with countywide perspectives. We also hired a consulting firm called Insights & Strategies that specializes in strategic planning to help guide and facilitate the process. The IT Strategic Plan has four main sections.

First, there's the IT Guiding Principles Then we have the strategic goals, objectives and initiatives. Third is IT governance. And fourth, we explain what the business partnership model is all about. As you saw in the strategic plan, we intentionally kept the plan at a high level without getting into specific projects or too much detail. The purpose of this plan is to provide direction, prioritization and clarity for technology resources and investments The strategic plan covers five major themes or goals that will be the focus for at least the next three years.

The first is digital transformation. This section focuses on our modernization efforts including AI, migrating to the cloud etc. We want to ensure that we are investing in solutions that benefit our constituents and enable our departments to be as effective as possible. Although not specifically mentioned in this strategic plan, we have numerous modernization projects already underway or in the planning phases. Some examples include implementing a new cloud-based ERP system, launching Microsoft Copilot to leverage AI more effectively, utilizing Esri GIS software in a more unified manner and maximizing our investments in multi-departmental solutions like Acela.

The second strategic goal is risk management through cybersecurity, resiliency and compliancy. As you know it is essential that we continue to prioritize and invest in our cybersecurity and resiliency. The cyber criminals are continually looking for weaknesses and we must always remain vigilant. The third area is collaborative engagement. In order for the county to best serve its constituents, we need to prioritize departments working together.

We need to improve how we share data to make informed decisions. The more we collaborate both internally and externally, the better we can serve our county. The fourth strategic goal is empowered workforce. The results of the strategic plan survey showed that the county could improve the technology training for all staff. We are committed to providing more opportunities for technology related training and education Another critically important initiative currently underway is the non-management level classification and compensation project.

Our current classifications are outdated, which makes it very difficult for recruiting and establishing clear career paths. The fifth strategic objective is around governance and fiscal responsibility. This section details the importance of policies, standards, transparency and processes. Effective governance promotes best practices and reduces risk. When it comes to fiscal responsibility we want to ensure that our resources are invested wisely and with measurable and reportable outcomes.

Many strategic plans end up sitting on shelves and collecting dust. We are committed to taking action and following through on the goals and objectives of this plan. We are forming a new steering committee that will assist with ensuring the successful execution of the objectives in this strategic plan. In addition, the county's IT department will begin implementing Our own IT plan that will be more tactical. This plan will include major projects, timelines and deliverables.

We will encourage other departments to develop technology plans specific to their needs but that also align with this new countywide IT strategic plan. I appreciate the opportunity to provide this overview and am happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you. Supervisor

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:46:53

Hartman

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:46:56

I don't have any questions, but I do observe Of the five elements, I tend to think about the first one, the digital transformation and the GIS ESRI and the ASELA and the ERP. And I think the gift that you have been to this county is that you understand the last three how important people are. And so the engagement, the empowerment, the governance, and I think that's why these plans sit on the shelf.

I had no idea, really. It's way over half the job is getting people to learn and adopt and align with these new work processes. And it's not easy. I have to make the transition from Zoom to Teams and resist it. And I imagine that's just a small thing that you encounter. But it's gonna transform and make our jobs, we can do them so much more effectively and so much more transparently for the people we serve.

It's worth it, and thank you for doing this. A lot of banging the head against the wall, it's not an easy job. I haven't been as good about changing my password but it just got changed today. We're working on that. So the security aspect is really, really important if you want to watch disaster movies about cybersecurity there's a lot out there so anyway thank you for all your bringing to our county.

PresenterChris CherguinInformation Technology DepartmentProposedself-stated1:48:38

I appreciate that. Thank you Supervisor Hartman. Supervisor

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:48:41

Caps. Thank you Director Churwin, thanks for the excellent presentation and to your team for all of the work and you're really good about keeping us up-to-date. I appreciate always knowing exactly what your department is up to at times before critical funding So thanks for that. I have a friend from junior high who is a director of user experience for technology and I remember hearing that title like 10 years ago and being sort of confused but now, I think about her often when I'm stuck at a website and frustrated and I think how that's literally her job every day is to help companies like Appfolio and others figure out those snafus so can you walk through like who Here does that. How do we how are we vigilant about making sure that Planning Commission of Planning Department applications are clear social services things work who whose job is that where does that lie is that interdepartmental is that solely with you is that within each department?

How is that working?

PresenterChris CherguinInformation Technology DepartmentProposedself-stated1:49:42

Yes supervisor caps through the chair so it actually aligns with what Supervisor Hartman was just talking about where. It can't just be technology, it has to be driven by business processes and understanding of what the business needs are in the technology follows the business needs and so it's really important I think it's really important that our team ITD is asking the right questions that we're meeting with departments on a regular basis to understand what their needs are and then we can help to design the experience whether it's through some technology solution or some process.

It's not a let's say dedicated, you know, UX experience person on our team. But really it's it's multiple members of the ITD staff that are responsible for really ensuring is as best as it can possibly be. And so there's not a finish line, it's always gonna be a work in progress but we just need to ensure that we're listening or understanding and ensuring that we're constantly trying to improve that experience whether it's staff, whether it's our constituents on the outside of the county as well. So it's a collaborative effort. I would also just add that departments do play a role in this as well because they understand Their needs better than anybody. And so what's important is that within Central IT, that we're having regular conversations with those departments and their staff to ensure that we're working together to create the best outcome possible.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:51:25

I'm kind of getting a little pedantic here, but is it case-by-case? So are you working with more departments than others because they bring to you more challenges or is it sort of systematic that you're making sure just how is the flow

PresenterChris CherguinInformation Technology DepartmentProposedself-stated1:51:41

Yeah so it's largely systematic now. So we within Central IT, we're meeting with departments on in most cases on a monthly basis some cases on a quarterly basis just depending on the department's needs but we're having those conversations now and we weren't two years ago. We now have a formal process we call it our business relationship management process and we have dedicated staff that that's their role is to go out and meet with the departments and understand what their needs are

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:52:07

So okay, just to break this down even one step further and then I'll be done. But so if a constituent has a problem with a process that's online should we be flagging that for your department as well as the relevant department or just the relevant department? I'm just really trying to get so that when constituents are gummed up who are the ones who generally hear about it and we hope we should, that's our job but where do we go with that to actually achieve hopefully some progress

PresenterChris CherguinInformation Technology DepartmentProposedself-stated1:52:37

I would say the easy answer there is to come to central IT because we're meeting with departments on like I said in most cases on a monthly

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:52:45

basis.

PresenterChris CherguinInformation Technology DepartmentProposedself-stated1:52:46

If it's something that's more department related, we can bring it to their attention as well but I think if there's going to be one kind of point of contact is coming to ITD and we can take it from there.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.671:52:57

Thanks for the guidance.

PresenterChris CherguinInformation Technology DepartmentProposedself-stated1:52:59

You're welcome.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:53:01

Supervisor Nelson?

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response1:53:02

Yes, thank you chair Lavanino. Thank you Chris for the presentation and thank you for all the work you've done I think we've come a long way under your leadership Despite going a long way, we have a long way to go. We do. I believe in this organization. I think we started off kind of behind and the pace of advancement right now in technology is moving so rapidly that we not only need to catch up to where we should've been but then we need to be able to advance forward as an organization.

And so you know, I think technology's gonna be a solution to a lot of problems that we have in the county whether that's with AI, GIS and also just even getting our website to be more robust as a resource for the end user. I think what Supervisor Kapsch may have been tiptoeing around is, you know, I've been here for 12 years and I still have difficulty dealing with our website. You know it's not an easy website to use.

Every single department is a little bit different. There's nothing that's really intuitive about it. I'm constantly searching my cell for things, having to bookmark it. And I always think about it. So if it's difficult for me, can you just imagine the person out there in the public that's using it for the very first time? They're going to give up and then they're not going to engage with that. That's a really lost opportunity for us as an organization.

I think we should be the go-to resource for the community. There are barriers that's still there that I think we need to address moving forward. And to that end, you know, San Barbara County is infamous for how difficult it is to get through our development process whether that's getting something entitled through our land use process or getting something actually built through a building department.

Getting a business open which is really about economic development for our county and you know A lot of that is because when people come to the county, they come to a bunch of different organizations. They don't realize when you go to the county to get a permit, it's eight different departments that you're talking to. They think it's the county but there might be environmental health, might be flood control, building planning and they don't know the difference. And I really believe that the way that we can really become one county in one future when it comes to our development process is really through technology and really a big advocate for us to move as quickly as possible on getting everybody on Acela, on the same system and all of us using Bluebeam which is the engineering software that I understand for everybody to review plans.

For us to literally cut months out of the process if we care about economic development then we should all be caring about Acela. If we care about affordable housing and housing being built we should all be caring about Acela so I know that we have had other priorities in this county. The ERP is a big thing that a lot of people in this room, we've all been working on for an internal but if we really want to solve a lot of external problems for our county, we really need to get that on track and get everybody to buy-in.

And I know it's not agendized under this item for any action in that sense but I would like to potentially give direction that we really incorporate whatever we can do maybe in this next budget cycle to really address those things because I think that that is really the missing piece on streamlining the processes, but then also holding ourselves accountable. Because once it's all there online and we can all see where it's at, there's no more hiding. It's either going to be we're going to know which departments hold onto it for too long and where they need to devote resources to.

A common issue that I find out with my constituents as I start to dig in, I realize it's their own agent that they've hired that's been sitting on it for three months. But we're going to know that too through that ACILA process. And so I'm really hoping that through us getting fully engaged on the CELDA, maybe eventually having shot clocks up there. So we know whose hands it's been in for how long and there is going to really develop a level of accountability that I think can cut through the complexity that exists in our county.

I don't know how to get, you know, I'm trying to backdoor something in here but it's so important to me. I'd like to see it come back in the future again if there are additional resources that are needed please let us know as a board and I hope that this message is echoed by my colleagues because I think it needs to be all the departments need understand how important it is to us for that to be successful. So I just wanted to get that out there.

as my piece around this issue. Thank you.

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PresenterChris CherguinInformation Technology DepartmentProposedself-stated1:57:36

Supervisor Nielsen through the chair, I'd like to address that briefly just to let you know that we are making really good strides in getting the departments to come together and collaborate and work together on the Acela initiatives so we formed an Acela Stern Committee That has all of the departments that currently use Acela. We've met recently, had a great first meeting just sharing what they're working on, what the vision is for each of the departments and how can we work together? So that meeting went really well. We've also just recently taken some funds out of the Technology Innovation Fund to help fund some of that consulting and integration with multi-departmental initiatives there through Acela. So I think we're on a good path, we still have a long ways to go but I'm optimistic about the direction that we're taking.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response1:58:22

So you're gonna love this question so do you have a go live date for me? I do not. OK, well, I think we should be you know what? We should be pointing towards one because I know we funded the Acela project and planning a couple of years ago and they haven't even fully utilized it at this point. They're a lot further along because they've had it for longer. You know, I remember when we originally funded it and I was told two years I was shocked So I would like us to as a group come up with a date that we're all pointing to the point that we will all be using the same system, the same software.

And so it's not out there in ether that it's a someday because we know how that goes with projects when that happens. So I think actually setting a date would be really important. So future reports back to board, I'd like to hear a date on when we're going to be fully there with Acela.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:59:15

Understood. Great and just for me in closing, is there any public comment on this matter?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:59:23

Chair Lavinino, members of the board we have no request to speak on this item.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.761:59:26

I'll just say, Chris, that I just really appreciate your leadership, the collaboration that's happening. This used to be an area that kept me awake at night because I didn't really think we were doing a lot in terms of cybersecurity before you got here and that's not to say that something still couldn't happen but I do feel that we've got our hands around it and we've got the right people in place so We're going to open ourselves up some sort of attack so.

And you have made me change my password more than once now in the last 15 years, so that's good. So just really want to appreciate all the hard work that's going on in your office and really encourage all departments that this is one of those areas where we all got to kind of take one for the team. work together, we're going to end up with a better product in the end and you might lose some autonomy as we have as board members.

But at the end of the day it's what's best for the county and so I really encourage everybody to kind of get on board and pull on the same end. So thanks for all your work. Appreciate it. Thank you. OK. So that takes us to oh we need a motion on A and B C and D

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:00:49

So move.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:00:49

Yes, wait no I'm sorry that's that's number three go back A and B. I got a little carried away.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:00:55

So moved.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:00:56

Okay is there a second? Second. Second by Nelson roll call please.

Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 moved. Okay is there a second? Second. Second by Nelson roll call
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Supervisor Nelson. Aye. Supervisor Williams. Aye Supervisor Kapps. Aye Supervisor Hartman. Aye And Chair Lavanino. Aye
UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:01:13

Motion passes unanimously

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:01:15

okay Madam Clerk can we please read departmental item number three into the record

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:01:24

Chair Lavinino, members of the board, departmental item number three is from the Community Services Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Energy Assurance Plan EAP.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:01:35

Chair Lavanino, members of the board, Jesus Armas, Community Services Director. Just want to briefly introduce the topic and then invite April Price, our Energy Portfolio Manager to make the presentation. As you will recall, the Climate Action Plan had a number of tasks, a number of objectives, a number of things that we indicated we would be pursuing Preparation of an energy assurance plan is one of those items and we're pleased to present our product for your consideration today. April?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:02:12

Okay, can you hear me? Good morning, thank you very much. I'm happy to present the Energy Assurance Plan for your review today. I would also especially like to thank staff from other departments from Planning and Development, General Services and Office of Emergency Management for their involvement in the development of this plan. So the county's energy assurance plan is developed as a website in order to increase the transparency of the county's efforts towards increasing our energy assurance both in our own facilities and more broadly within the community.

The website also serves to highlight the success, the successes of our implementation of this work. Interest in an energy assurance plan grew out of our position at the end of the transmission lines, both Southern California Edison and PG&E. And as I think we're all well aware these lines travel through areas that are at high risk for fire and debris flows.

This plan is also developed with the understanding that generating more local electricity and being able to store that electricity reduces that dependence on delivered energy and increases our preparedness for emergencies. We also expect that this plan will be helpful in securing funding for projects and programs that support energy assurance. So to begin, I would like to actually establish a baseline of it and introduce you to an energy assurance map.

It's a bit of an eye reach but I'll walk you through a few maps here that I think will kind of set the baseline of the discussion. So as you can see on this map, there is kind of a red stripe that goes through the middle. That's our extreme high fire danger zone in the county and then we have our blue waterways that indicate our extreme risks for flooding. This map also shows the transmission lines from Southern California Edison and PG&E that travel through these very high fire danger zones especially in South County I'm really highlighting the need to plan for energy assurance in these areas.

We've also mapped the generation of electricity within our county, so this map shows the generation at the utility scale or larger scale operations showing the solar fossil fuel wind and battery sites on the map and this is also overlaid with the flood and fire zones And this one is a bit busy, but this is showing the distributed energy resources in our county. So you'll generally see that areas of the map that are darker red have more solar projects throughout the county and areas with more cross hatching have higher penetration of battery projects. And when I say projects in this context, I'm referring to small scale projects. So this is projects on our homes, businesses and in municipal operations.

So here you can see the highest penetration of solar is in the San Ynez Valley and we have a relatively high penetration of those smaller battery projects down in Montecito. And finally, we've mapped the distribution of facility microgrids throughout the county that we're aware of. So these are sites that are able to stay online during a power outage scenario because they have co-located battery and solar systems on a given building or a given campus.

As you can see, we've also highlighted the disadvantaged communities and low income communities in this map. And in showing these low-income communities, we're highlighting opportunity for building more potential microgrids in these areas. Not all of these microgrids are publicly owned. Many of them are privately owned. Some of them are interested in becoming resilience hubs but the vast majority of these are not. So okay here's our baseline of what energy projects exist in the county and now we'll get on to the plan itself.

So the Energy Assurance Plan has three prongs. It's made up in our plan, it's made up of energy reliability that is how we keep the power flowing, energy resiliency which is how we restore that power as quickly as possible in the event of a power outage and community power which is the idea that we should establish places for people to go in the event of a power outage so that they can have some support for their critical needs On your screen, you'll see the four critical goals or the foundation of the Energy Assurance Plan.

The first two goals are focused on increasing the amount of renewable energy and energy storage throughout the county. And these goals represent or include rather both that utility scale large projects and the distributed small-scale projects that make up the totals. The third goal is focused on increasing enrollment in utility demand response programs, and that's simply a method to decrease the stress on the grid during peak events or when people are really using a lot of electricity.

And our fourth goal is to increase resilience hubs so that residents throughout the county can access power and services during outages and emergencies. I'd really like to stress that meeting these four goals cannot be done by the county alone, but this plan lays out strategies for the county to influence growth across these four categories. I'd also like to mention that there is an equity focus to these goals.

We realize It we won't have the same energy assurance outcome if we simply increase the amount of energy storage and solar in one area. But this has to be done throughout the county in a distributed manner in order to actually increase energy assurance for residents and businesses throughout the county. So both the renewable energy and energy storage goals have sub-goals. You can see here that we have a kilowatt per capita in each zip code, and that really highlights as you saw on the map there isn't a really uniform distribution of solar and batteries currently, and certain areas of the county will require a higher investment in order to catch up with the other areas.

So there's three types of strategies that will support the goals that I laid out. The first is really what the county can do on our own, and this is leading by example. This is how the county will invest in energy assurance in our own facilities mainly by adding solar and batteries to our own buildings. The next category is government and utility coordination. And these are strategies that highlight how we can work with community choice organizations, with investor owned utilities and with other key partners to ensure that projects are cited to support our county and the programs are developed that are beneficial to us.

And the third is this idea of community empowerment. So these are strategies that the county can undertake to support residents and organizations to prepare themselves so helping them install their own battery and solar help them be more prepared for power outages and create networks of support So I'm just showing a few examples in each of these categories. You can see here in the leading by example categories there are three facilities that general services have, general services provided the entire list but these are just three that will, that if they, the goal is to install solar and battery on these sites General Services would lead the implementation of all of the Lead by Example strategies and I believe you'll hear from general services staff shortly on an update on these projects.

So we wanted to make sure to present together. We expect that these projects will be funded either through the CIP process. I know that they'll also present on an RFQ that they're developing and potentially through power purchase agreements or other creative funding mechanisms. These are examples from utility and government coordination. And you can see here, again these are efforts to really work with the agencies that are planning for projects throughout the region making sure they are sited in areas that are beneficial to our local grid and our local resilience goals.

And making sure that the programs are also developed with us in mind. And finally, in the community empowerment section again these are strategies developed across departments to provide support to homeowners, to residents and to also solar developers that may develop within our region. As Jesus mentioned, our energy assurance plan isn't a standalone effort. Many of the strategies that are encompassed in the plan are referenced in other plans and this spider web of plans if you will and was first called for in the strategic energy plan and is an action of the climate action plan.

The EAP also provides the energy resilience strategies for the current effort to develop the climate change adaptation plan. So to implement this plan, each of the strategies has a list of actions that is much more detailed that we did not list on our website but that we will be tracking. Each of these strategies has a department lead and also has other outside agencies that we will need to collaborate with in order to fully implement the strategies.

And this strategy implementation will be tracked in the same process by which we'll track implementation of the Climate Action Plan. So reminding you of the recommend actions today and I thank you very much for your attention.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:14:00

Questions from the board? Comments? Supervisor Williams, I'm sure you're chomping at the bit. I'll save it. Are we

CommentHarry RubinProposed · by introduction2:14:09

ready for comments? Is

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:14:11

there any public comment?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:14:13

Chair Lovenino, members of the Board, we have one request to speak from the public on this item.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:14:17

Let's hear that.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:14:18

We are going to remain here in Santa Barbara with Ben Schwartz.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:14:27

Thanks for waiting all morning, Ben.

CommentBen SchwartzProposedself-stated2:14:30

Thank you. Good morning, Chair Lavagnino and supervisors. My name is Ben Schwartz. I'm the policy manager with a local nonprofit called The Clean Coalition. We'd like to state our strong support for the EAP and recommend its adoption though we do have a few proposed changes that we would propose that staff be directed to include mainly which are a number of increased subtasks that will improve the effectiveness of the plan Obviously, as a whole the plan is a great step forward to increasing the reliance on clean energy, on energy independence, increased flexibility on the local grid, as well as resilience. And joining 3CE increased the county's reliance on clean energy but not necessarily on clean energy that is generated locally and that's an important distinction So on goal number one, which is increasing the amount of clean energy generation here.

We first recommend that the county work to change the definition of utility scale solar and we know that that is a process that is underway and we've been participating in that process but currently the definition is really unreasonably exclusionary It treats a 100 megawatt solar farm the same way as one megawatt solar project that is sited on a parking lot. So anything that is in front of the meter or directly tied to the grid, is excluded from being developed except for a small area in the county in Cuyama Valley and that has the unfortunate impact of limiting development, limiting business opportunities One of those, the CPUC just passed a new community solar program and there is significant government funding for that. A portion of $250 million from the federal government as well as $33 million from the state government will be included so we recommend that that is a low-hanging fruit that changing that ordinance as soon as possible which we've been recommending as far back as 2019 when the strategic energy plan was developed.

In addition, we think that the plan should also include the need to maximize all use of state and federal funds as well as state and federal programs as an overlying and broad goal. That applies to both the need for increased generation as well as energy storage and not doing so limits the potential for development and economic opportunity. On goal number three on increasing demand response, we propose that the subgoal of having dual participation with emergency reliability programs that pay folks to either generate and have behind-the-meter energy storage or to reduce their load entirely. And then last on goal four surveying all county properties for microgrids working with Southern California Edison, a bill passed AB50 that requires Edison to at least work with the county once a year.

And then starting the development of a community microgrid that can span the entire southern county or part of the northern county. The CPUC will pass in the next month a community microgrid program which will allow a community microgrid of any size to be developed and while that will take years, once we hit those targets for clean energy and storage we will have enough energy available to back up the entire Southern County. So we recommend starting that process as soon as possible. Thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:18:16

Great and thanks Supervisor Hartman. Is there a question for you Ben?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:18:20

Don't go yet. So could you explain what our current commercial solar definition prevents? Is it a barrier to more rooftop and parking lot solar?

CommentBen SchwartzProposedself-stated2:18:36

So anything that is interconnected directly to the grid or in front of the meter is prevented throughout the county. So it can be small, it can be large. It prevents solar on farms and not even considering the Williamson Act. Prevents anything on a built environment and obviously for larger solar there are considerations especially if we're talking about agricultural land but if we're talking about a built environment where it doesn't need to go through a CEQA process and There are very few if any environmental impacts We think we should get that under development as soon as possible and focus our consideration on You know the larger projects where there is an environmental impact.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:19:20

Thank you

CommentBen SchwartzProposedself-stated2:19:21

Thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:19:22

Thank you, Ben. Yes?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:19:26

Just to clarify a bit, Supervisor Hartman via the chair, I believe you asked about commercial scale solar but I believe Ben's answer was about utility scale solar.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:19:39

Okay, utility scale it was my that's what I'm interested in and eager to hear your response to his comments

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:19:48

Well, that is a little bit more in the jurisdiction of planning and development that the utility solar planning effort is being led by Planning and Development. And I know that they are online and available to take questions.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:20:07

OK. Other questions from the board? Supervisor Kaps.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:20:11

Oh, thank you. Yeah I'm thrilled to see this before us so quick in succession after planning after passing the climate action plan thanks for really getting on it we had the reach code agendized and you just are showing us that the proof is in the pudding of passing this policy so thank you I'm energized as we say And you know I just want to do, you know you started with this but it bears repeating just that how high the stakes are. We're literally at the end of the line and I'm cognizant of the fact that driving yesterday I got my ready SBC text about high winds and warm temperatures tonight and through the next couple days and this is exactly why we're doing this work and we need to do this work and it's urgent because we are literally at the end of the line This is about the most vulnerable populations.

This is about keeping, in my world view, keeping kitchens open at schools so that kids can eat. It's about making sure that people that need their insulin can get it. It's about just making sure that our society functions and the most vulnerable are usually the first to be impacted by outages. So thank you for the bold plan. And I also just want to thank you too as well about leading by example. Our county, I think it's the biggest property owner if not second and so we have a huge responsibility to have as much skin in the game as possible and I have some questions about that.

So my questions really are about that implementation. It's the same nature of my questions I want to ask you about the climate action plan because you've set forth a big, bold, ambitious policy to have 450 megawatts of renewable energy capacity by 2030. That's exemplary. That is visionary. I see that we could have...I have a vision that I know you share that Santa Barbara County could have a world-class electrical system that again is reliable for all of us but it's going to be really hard to get there and today but also in the months to come about how exactly, how we're going to do it. I'm focused on the how and the who and with the how it's mostly how we're going to pay for it so to that question tell me about the grant processes?

That with this administration, the Biden administration and infrastructure law there's literally billions of dollars, $10 billion for a GRIP grant that's related to grid resilience. $10 billion. And if this depending on the outcome of the election, there could be this program could be continued. Are we ready to be seeking major You know major, major grants that will help us fund as I note 80% of the projects that you put forward here are unfunded.

Walk me through about how we're going to access those funds, please.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:23:10

One of the important elements I think to take into account reflected in the comments even before this item and that is how critical it is for the county as a whole to take responsibility for this and that's why we're working pretty closely with P&D and with General Services. And you'll hear from General Services in the next presentation about a number of initiatives that are outlined to really move forward on the solar generation and battery storage, which are key elements to our undertaking here.

I would remind the board that just at your most recent meeting you approved submittal of an application to the EPA for a $20 million project in the Cuyuma Valley. So we are taking seriously exploring different funding sources. And to your point about the administration And the possible continuation of that effort. We're going to continue to look at all of those avenues, make sure we take advantage of each and every opportunity available to us.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:24:14

Thank you so that one specifically I know that a consultant was hired for the federal grant potential is that still progressing?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:24:22

And yes, the board authorized some funding for outside assistance. You allocated up to $75,000 for that effort earlier this year. So that's a resource that we can tap as well.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:24:35

Okay. So we're, we'll be ready to go with that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:24:38

We need to go.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:24:38

Okay. Thank you. And so also too related to funding and I know this gets into the next agenda item but the county facilities, those three identified projects are also unfunded. I know that well Community Environmental Council wrote us all a letter to that effect pointing out that solarizing our own buildings has been a priority since the 2014 plan was passed by this board I believe And yet with good intentions, a lot of projects have either been stalled or not yet online because of funding. So can you walk through how we're going to pay for what your thoughts are for actually getting so that our own buildings are solarized? I know again this bleeds into the next departmental item but power purchase agreements are something I'm quite familiar with with Santa Barbara Unified School District which put in 14 of such solar arrays and six microgrids did so to a cost savings of $7 million to the taxpayers.

So I have a bit of a bias in terms of how these things can work and be funded and actually save money, so I'm hoping that's the direction that we'll be headed in.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:25:48

Yes absolutely, Supervisor Capps via the Chair. To your point general services will include a lot of this information in the presentation following but The development of the RFQ that they're doing to cover not just the three example projects, but the longer list of projects that is listed on the website I think will be really helpful to your previous question of preparing us for going after funding opportunities like the GRIP grant. Having competitively selected Vendors to work with in that application process will, I think, simplify things quite a bit.

And that's if we are paying for things or going after that grant funding. If we're going off, if we're considering a PPA and I think general services will speak to this also that the landscape has changed a bit. And with the Inflation Reduction Act allowing municipalities to benefit from the 30% tax credit It's suddenly 30% cheaper for us to buy our infrastructure than it was prior to the passing of that policy. So, certainly PPAs are a great tool that many municipalities use and also the equation has simply changed a bit for us to consider a little bit of a cheaper purchase price.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:27:28

So are you more optimistic, I know when this priority was set forth to solarize most of our county buildings in 2014 yet much of that hasn't happened. Are you more optimistic now given the changing conditions that we can actually, the rubber can meet the road and we can actually fund these things through a variety of approaches?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:27:50

Yes.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:27:52

Okay good answer. Good answer okay so and I just want to talk about Partners because you referenced some agency partners and I just we've talked about and you know, I share this belief that we can't do this alone. And we need to empower and mobilize as many community partners as possible So I'm just curious who has weighed in on the this plan thus far which partners have given feedback Because I think again human nature it's important to engage partners from the get-go so who has Who have you worked with to develop this plan?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:28:27

Supervisor Caps, via the Chair. I mentioned the interdepartmental collaboration that has happened within county staff. We also held two stakeholder workshops and I don't have in front of me the entire list of attendees but we had participation from solar developers, from non-profits including The Clean Coalition that just spoke today The Environmental Community Environmental Council, a number of local nonprofits. So we were trying to get both the developers at the table and also more the advocates.

Also 3C Wren as certainly an implementer of a lot of the outreach portion of outreach arm of the community work.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:29:16

Okay. And one of those partners pointed out, just if you could discuss this is a bit more technical, included our proposed ratio of distributed capacity to storage and I believe we're proposing a 10-to-1 ratio but feedback that I received was that it's more optimal to do something closer to 2-to 1. Again, we can take that offline if need be but I wanted to share that feedback.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:29:44

Yeah, Supervisor Capps via the chair. So you're referring to having a higher portion of utility scale than is currently proposed in the plan?

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:29:59

Well I think it's more just the ratio between storage distributed storage and I mean I think the numbers are set but it's more the ratio between And understanding better about the locations of where the storage would be and making sure that the ratios between the, let's see, capacity and the storage is satisfactory.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:30:27

Understood. Yeah, Supervisor Caps, we have the Chair. The goals were set based on what we expect to be possible but I I agree that there could be a more optimal ratio. So, I wouldn't see this goal as like once we get here we are completely energy assured forever. This is a step towards the county reaching a higher level of energy assurance again both for our own facilities and within the community.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:31:02

And finally, I just thank you for the goal of 10 resiliency hubs. I know that's a top priority of Community Environmental Council that did a lot of, I think, a year worth of stakeholder outreach to come up with that as their top priority. What will be the process for determining the selection of where those resiliency hubs are?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:31:23

Supervisor Capps via the chair, it's an interesting process because a resilience hub could pop up without any of our involvement. And resilience hubs again to remind everyone are a little bit complicated in nature because they may or may not actually have backup energy solar and storage to still serve in some capacity as a resilience hub but we are talking about those with solar and storage today.

So given that there's many processes for, let's say a church to go from just serving the community to serving them during a power outage. It's hard to give you a really straight line answer but for instance 3C REN via the Energy Assurance Services I'm By working with the county via 3C REN, we're able to offer really comprehensive audits and step-by-step process for making those upgrades. And then we also offer kind of this handholding process to help identify and apply to some extent for grant funding to implement those upgrades.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:32:50

Thanks and maybe we should just pause for a second because I say this vernacular resiliency hub. Can you just describe it? Because again, I'm close to it. We've turned many of our schools into resiliency hubs intentionally because there are such natural places in the community where people turn in time of disasters and we know that they're ideally suited to have people spend the night or have kitchens that function, have refrigeration that functions for people in times of need but can And with my questions on just explaining that a little bit more because I don't know if everyone really understands how essential these would be to our community functioning in the time of disaster.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:33:28

Absolutely. So you summarized it well, Supervisor Capps via the chair. These are places where people in the community can go to get really critical services and each resilience hub will offer their own flavor of critical services many of them do include refrigeration So, maybe powering people's medical devices for instance. Food kitchen, food preparation and distribution.

Distribution of critical information for evacuation. Many of these are shelters but not all of them are shelters. So it does depend, and again the focus on resilience hubs in the context of this plan is making sure that they do have electricity during a real disaster where the grid is down.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:34:24

Thank you. I applaud you. We have a relatively small sustainability team. This work is extremely daunting so I hope my questions are taken in a constructive way that I want to be enlisted as part of the implementation team and some I think that's where our board can really support you all because this is again just about resiliency in the time of, the greatest time of need in our county in times of these disasters. So with that, I'm hoping that we could have with acceptance of this today a six month report on implementation.

Again not to put more pressure A small but mighty team, but to really help bring to light how we're moving so that we can engage more partners and shine more light on the needs and potential gaps or potential wins. So that's what I would put forward for my colleagues when we come to the time of accepting this report to add to it a six-month report back on implementation. Thank you for all your answers. Appreciate it.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response2:35:33

Supervisor Nelson? Yes, thank you Chair Lavanino. I just had some questions about the conversation. So resiliency hubs is that always going to be like a solar battery or would sometimes there's a resiliency hub might actually have a generator?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:35:49

Supervisor Nelson via the chair, different resilience hubs in general can again provide their own suite of services and some resilience hubs might opt to power their operations with a generator. We wouldn't capture that as a success within the energy assurance plan because again this is an effort to support the climate action plan and reduce our emissions.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response2:36:15

Sure but just to expand the overall I just wanted to make sure that we're getting a sense of the availability of these hubs. That might be an option, at least in the interim as a bridge and some circumstances might be appropriate.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:36:29

True. Some instances it would be appropriate.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response2:36:32

Right. That's what these things are about is emergencies so you know it's not easy always to have quote unquote clean energy options there. We've often come in through combustion, and so I just was wondering if those qualify as well still as being resiliency hubs.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:36:57

One of the, Supervisor Nielsen through the Chair. One of the points that Ms. Price mentioned is some of these resilience hubs may be initiated on their own and so they may elect to use that kind of a method because of the condition or the location of the particular hub. So this isn't indicating that it's only one method is available we're simply indicating that as we Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response2:37:37

The emergency hub here is a generator. I think our EOC is a generator, I think most of our hospitals are generators because of the reliability that comes from those pieces and as much as that can be supplemented in the future through green energy projects especially those that are subsidized by grants, I think that's great use of energy and time. And that does bring me to the question that Ms. Price, you mentioned about 30% tax credit So some of these projects, I mean makes a project 30% cheaper. We don't pay taxes so I'm just trying to figure out how that exactly works.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:38:12

Supervisor Nelson via the Chair, yes. So through the Inflation Reduction Act there is a mechanism for the county to receive a cash payment so it's getting the benefit of a tax credit without being a taxpayer.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response2:38:29

So a grant in lieu of taxes? I was just trying to make sure I understood the mechanism there about that. And this might be for the next item. I know with a lot of the projects that we're promoting and a lot of solar projects, there's been a discussion about the expiration of the NIM 2.0 and moving to 3.0. You know, I don't know if it's going to be answered in this item or the next item.

Those permits so we could stay under NIM 2.0 and I heard recently that we might be at risk of losing that and might be now going into NIM 3.0 because we haven't been able to move forward with some of the deadlines, is that something you guys can speak to or maybe it's an item for next one? I guess I'll ask general services on the next item if they're able to comment on that but Whether we're able to fully utilize that, because I know that was a big deal in the first place.

There was a big rush originally but it said no, we can go ahead and register for the 2.0. But I believe we had deadlines to meet if we wanted to take advantage of that. And I'm anxious to hear a report back on that. I also wanted to understand item number three here. Maybe this is a question for CO. It's recommended action C, direct staff to pursue implementation of strategies in the EAP as funding resources permit. So that would be we're looking for grants there or what are those dollars there? Because I just want to know what I'm agreeing to if I support this motion.

CommentSherry BundenhovenProposed · by introduction2:40:12

It could be anything your board hasn't made that determination yet. I think we would always look for grants, whether federal funding, state funding, working with partners but it also could include general fund and those would be budget discussions that we have not yet held with the board.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response2:40:28

Okay so it's not committing any current dollars to this? It would be a future discussion but then authorizing staff to go out and try to look for dollars out there that might be available.

CommentSherry BundenhovenProposed · by introduction2:40:39

That's my understanding

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response2:40:40

Okay. Well, I would be able to support it if that's the correct understanding of everybody else as well at this point. The last comment I have about these projects that we have and you know, I know I'm a broken record up here when I talk about the CIP in projects north and south. And something I see a lot is that we do some of these energy projects up north and then we're told that's your capital project for the North County?

And that's compared to these other things. I think that these energy projects need to be on a different tier when we talk about capital, because it's kind of an overarching strategy. But when I'm talking about capital, I'm not necessarily talking about these projects. I'm talking about community centers, ball fields, fire stations, libraries and sometimes when we look at the CIP and we tell Supervisor Nelson that yeah, we're spending money up there it's often on these projects which are part of another strategy as our capital. And so I just wanted to highlight that I hope not what we view those things at. Yes, it's dollars that we spend but we still have a lot of need on basic infrastructure that the South Coast has had for generations up in the North County.

We need facilities for our DAs and public defenders. We have a lot of aging infrastructure up north that needs capital investment so I just want to be careful when I know this is a priority of our board I totally get it. I can support that, but I do think there's a baseline we need to continue to invest in before we jump into these technologies and strategies.

These can definitely be a part of those projects, but I don't want these in lieu of those projects is my advocacy here on the dais.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:42:17

Supervisor Williams?

CommentHarry RubinProposed · by introduction2:42:20

Apologize in advance for the deafening background noise of the only places that have good service. But it's vital that we achieve these goals and it's an appropriately high priority for the county, and for the general public living in the county not just so that we can have a better world by combating climate change but for even more practical reasons. One is that Reliability.

I just posted on my Facebook a slide from this energy conference I am at, showing the difference between the 2022 heatwave peak in energy and the most recent heatwave peak in 2024. And really the thing that kept the lights on and kept us out of danger as a region and as a state was the dramatic increase in batteries that have taken place But that's got to continue because we're experiencing load growth and that's the last practical reason.

Our ag sector, our commercial sector with needing more computing capacity are all using a lot more energy and for us to sustain Economic activity, it's also going to be really crucial to meet these goals. I would even say the battery goal is vastly more important than the generation goal to really achieve both greenhouse gas emission reductions I'm going to turn it over to you, Mr. Chairman.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:44:21

The $75,000 grant that we allocated could you give us a progress

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:44:24

report on what's occurring the work under that?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:44:36

That was the so-called GRIP grant, if you'll recall. And we were in conversations with a private company that was going to pursue that. It decided that it was not interested in moving in that effort and so we're trying to identify other opportunities to achieve the same result.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:44:55

But we're still, did we hire a contractor to survey our county facilities and see how we might be able to participate in such a program as a virtual power plant?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:45:08

The funding wasn't intended to do that kind of survey. It was more to assist us in making sure that we had a robust application that could be considered Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:45:46

Supervisor Hartman through the chair, this is Alex Tuttle. Can you all hear me?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:45:49

Yes

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:45:52

As many of you know we are actively working on ordinance update package addressing utility scale solar In fact on the admin agenda today was board contracts to continue work with our consultants Um, and it acknowledged receipt of $100,000 grant that we were awarded by the state to support these efforts. So we can always appreciate that. Uh, so yes, a definition for utility scale solar is going to be modified as part of that work effort.

That moves away from how the energy is being used and just more to the type project or size of the project. So rooftop solar of any scale Uh, would be exempt as a, as an installation and not be treated in. Terms of where the energy is going

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:46:45

okay? Thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:46:49

Any other questions surprising else?

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response2:46:51

Yeah, I just had a question on the utility scale solar. Um. Maybe I'm just too simplistic. I mean, it's a question for council. Why didn't we just make that an allowable use with some type of CUP? Maybe that's for planning. It seems that if it was just an allowable use any project would actually have to go through CEQA in the future. And I think that's been the impediment to this is that it's not even an allowable use at this point. What would be the harm in the county just making utility scale solar allowable?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:47:23

Go

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:47:24

ahead.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:47:26

Supervisor Nelson through the chair. So, you know this effort um the primary focus on of this effort is currently utility scale solar as everyone is probably aware is limited to a 600 acre area within the Cuyamba Valley that was done a number of years ago to facilitate one particular project. The board directed us to look at updating the code to make Utility scale solar allowable in other zones as well, particularly AG zones and some of the more industrial zones around the county. So that's the effort that we're currently undertaking.

We do have to do environmental review whenever we prepare an ordinance update such as that especially one that's going to open up the doors to future development Even if that future development may require CEP and undergo its own CEQA from a programmatic level, setting up the stage through a program EIR somewhat similar to the housing element where we look at it from a programmatic scale. And then any future project would be evaluated on a case by case basis and be able to potentially tear off that program EIR to extent feasible.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response2:48:49

Yeah, I guess it's always baffles me that we need to perform CEQA to then perform CEQUA again on something. And seems like we make things more complicated than they should have to be. Understanding that there'd be a future CEQUA document I just want to say thank you to the Board of Supervisors. Supervisor Williams didn't work on this for eight years and it's still not birthed.

And so, yeah just to I hope in the future we can find other ways to allow pathways that are a little bit more expeditious for this board's desires to see these policy priorities move forward especially when there would probably be extensive multi-year environmental process in the future. Just seems really absurd that way you get tied up around the axles on that.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:49:53

Madam Clerk, are there any requests to speak from the public? We already did. That was a long time ago. OK. Can I get a motion then?

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.672:50:04

I would like to move staff recommendation with the addition of a request to come back in six months with implementation steps on this and also the Climate Action Plan.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:50:15

Second.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:50:18

OK we have a motion and a second. Roll call please.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response2:50:28

Aye.

Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 motion and a second. Roll call
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Supervisor Nelson? Aye. Supervisor Williams? Aye. Supervisor Caps? Aye, Supervisor Hartman? Aye and Chair Labanino? Aye
UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:50:40

Motion passes unanimously.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:50:42

Okay this is where putting personal preference over the board we're not going to go to lunch yet we're gonna fight through and go to number four so staff out there if you hear my stomach growling It's all good.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response2:51:00

Be careful.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:51:01

Yeah, I'm voting against it. Let's read four into the record please.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:51:09

Chair Lavagnino members of the board departmental item number 4 is from the General Services Department as a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the general services energy program update.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.762:51:32

Good morning. Afternoon.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:51:35

Good afternoon, Chair Lavagnino, members of the board. Happy to be here today and really dovetails into the previous topic is energy program update and our Energy Manager Brandon Kaysen will be giving the brief.

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated2:51:49

Chair Lavagnino and Supervisors of the Board, it's a real honor and privilege to be able to be here and talk about the hard work that we're doing in general services. My name is Brandon Kaysen I've been Energy Manager for two years now and it's been really just a pleasure and a gift to be able to do this. A division of one and have expanded to two believe it or not but we're nested within a really amazing team within Capital Facilities Fleet. The Sustainability Team has also been a huge support our work. So we're going to get a quick update of what we've been up to over the last 12 months and get a peek as to what we're focusing on in the year to come.

So some of the key elements of the presentation today want to start with a win, right? So we'll talk about achievements that we've been able to accomplish. We'll touch on the municipal greenhouse gas inventory which was something that our sustainability division in the community services department was able to accomplish this last year. Take a peek at our energy use and cost trends over the last year and over the last five years. Talk a little bit about renewable energy projects and some of the things that we're looking at moving forward.

All right, so we've got a list here and I know there were a number of questions that came up during the last presentation. So if I don't touch on them please remind me of what those were but I'll do my best to cover them all. One of the big ones is we nearly doubled our electric vehicle charging infrastructure just in the last 12 months alone. So 92 new EV charging stations sprinkled throughout the county.

And I will make mention that with a huge team effort, we were awarded a grant for government fleets that came out of the state. It was $4.3 million with an expectation of match funds and time from the county looking at installing an additional 150 chargers over the next couple years so we have a lot of work on the horizon as far as EV charging stations go but it's a really critical component both for our vehicle fleet as well as our staff and the public at large We completed a site assessment and solar feasibility study of the Gaviota Mariposa site.

The Energy Division stands idle and willing to support those efforts moving forward, but that assessment has been complete. We finalized and energized the Beteravia Solar Project which was a long time coming I'm sure all of you are well aware It was something big that I wanted to accomplish day one, stepping into this role. And so we're really excited that that project is online and producing clean energy.

We completed the building decarbonization roadmap, which is a fancy term for looking at all of our buildings countywide identifying which ones are really good candidates for electrification. Looking at aging infrastructure costs for renovations and really working with our partners in facilities and capital to understand what does this process look like moving forward? That was funded actually through our sustainability division and CSD, so really grateful for that partnership there. And we hired a firm to perform that study for us.

We began our HVAC and building energy management system project where we selected eight buildings countywide that either were ripe for electrification. So the Santa Maria Admin Building and Casa Nueva buildings are two to mention that we have large HVAC upgrades, transitioning packaged units that use natural gas to very efficient air source heat pumps at those buildings so two case studies that we're looking at as models moving forward and then as well as establishing building energy management systems getting our buildings more sophisticated so we can better manage them moving And lastly, we just completed the draft of our solar microgrid RFQ which happy to talk a little bit more about. We're expecting to release that this month and that's been a huge effort in a long time coming as well.

So as I mentioned, the greenhouse gas inventory was completed by the Sustainability Division. But I want to just touch on some major things, some highlights from the inventory itself. The county buildings and fleet represent about 1.8% of our total community greenhouse gas emissions. And that can be broken up into three major sectors. So buildings and infrastructure are vehicle fleet and employee commuting.

So general services in particular is focused on the first two, so our buildings infrastructure and our vehicle fleet. But it is important to note that over half of our municipal related emissions relates to how employees are getting to and from buildings from home to work etc. That presents some other challenges, some interesting challenges that we're here to support. But as far as general services go, that's a little bit beyond what we're able to influence directly.

So this is a busy graph here. Really the main thing to note is that all departments have a piece of the pie, right? And some have larger fleets. Some have larger buildings. The one at the top there I'm sure your eyes go to first is Sheriff. Sheriff has a huge vehicle fleet. They have the jails that they operate so they likely have a larger piece of our overall pie.

Public works, social services, fire, public health all have either large buildings or large fleets. So they have a larger piece of our total municipal inventory but it's going to require efforts and changes from all of our departments if we're going to make efforts in reducing our overall emissions. I'm looking at just our buildings and vehicles that we own and operate.

County-owned vehicles represent about 46% of those total emissions. Our building natural gas consumption, about a third of total emissions. And then electricity another 20%. So I mentioned the decarbonization roadmap, which you'll get a peek of in a moment. That's really focusing on that natural gas component, that 33%. What practically and feasibly does it make sense for us to transition that infrastructure to electric-powered sources?

The zero emission vehicle policy is really focused on the big piece of the pie, the 46%, and transitioning our internal combustion engines to electric vehicles. And then, you know, we have 20% of our emissions come from electricity. And you may ask well isn't there an easy solution for that? And there is. You know, we've made there's been decisions made as to what rate of electricity we're getting from 3CE if someday we were to decide to go to 100%. That would resolve that 20% piece just to make note OK, so getting into some of the graphs here. Here we're looking at total energy consumption. So if we combine electricity and natural gas for all of our county buildings and looking them by month over the last five years you'll notice that 2024 which really is the most recent fiscal year is represented by that dark blue navy blue color.

Just taking a quick glance you'll notice The last fiscal year was actually some of the lowest energy-consuming months in the last five years. Now, there are a number of things that could have influenced that one. We actually did have some more mild weather this last year. We've made some significant improvements in terms of how we're managing our buildings And we've had some renewable energy infrastructure come online. So it's been a culmination of a lot of different efforts that has resulted in lower energy consumption over time.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:00:03

A question on that slide real quick. Why don't we see like a huge downturn during COVID? I would have thought, you know, we weren't using as much.

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:00:12

That's a really good question, Chair Lavigneaux. Without looking into the details my initial instinct is that we didn't necessarily turn all of those buildings completely off and it's interesting especially with some of the work from home strategies we still have to ventilate these buildings if there's you know

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:00:32

One person in there, the light still has to be on. Right?

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:00:34

Yeah. So that becomes part of the challenge and I too would have expected to see a decrease in total energy consumption but that would be my initial guess. It's good to see the track

CommentSherry BundenhovenProposed · by introduction3:00:47

going. Just to remind us we closed to the public during the shutdown but we did not close our county offices so people were still working.

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:00:55

Before my time of course too. Okay, so there's a lot to see here. But I will mention that energy use intensity or EUI is probably the best metric for us to answer the question of are we actually doing better in terms of energy performance? So energy use intensity looks at all electricity and natural gas that we consume on an annual basis divided by square footage. So if all the buildings that we own and operate, are we getting more efficient per square foot?

So, and you'll see a pretty consistent fluctuation throughout the year as we would expect. But when you look back at 2020 to present day, we've seen about a 15% reduction in energy use intensity over time. And so this could likely be because we're reducing energy from renewable energy resources. New buildings are coming online, so we have more energy consumption but those new buildings are significantly more efficient. So we are increasing our square footage and lowering our total energy use per square foot with those new facilities. This is a trend that we expect to see continue over time and it's certainly a sign that things are headed in the right direction.

So we're reducing energy usage, we're getting more efficient and we're paying more. You know it's probably no surprise everybody looks at their utility bills at the end of the month and prices per unit continue to rise and in some cases faster than we can reduce energy. So again, that dark blue-navy blue line is the most recent fiscal year. And while we did have some months that were lower than 2023 for example, we're still seeing that rates have continued to elevate our total energy costs month over month.

And you'll see that here, the cost per unit of electricity has increased 70% since 2014-15. And the cost per unit of natural gas has increased 90% during that same timeline. So these are gigantic increases that really put a lot of pressure on us and grid hardening, wildfires, inflation increasing demand, global conflict. The list goes on as to what could be causing this.

Ultimately, it's a result of rising costs and becoming more complicated over time. And here's just our look at the last fiscal year, where we're spending money in terms of utilities. I will make mention that vehicle gasoline does not show up on this as part of the fleet division's responsibility but electricity is a little more than half of our total expenditure and we do anticipate that to increase in terms of percentage right as we electrify our vehicles As we find buildings that are good candidates for electrification, we will see a transition from both gasoline to electricity as well as natural gas to electricity.

Okay, so taking a peek at our renewable energy projects. You may have seen something like this similar or it hasn't changed a whole lot since last time I was here last year. We have about three and a half megawatts of solar installed throughout the county. Some very large projects, the Cayo Real campus and Beteravia campus are two large arrays The Regional Fire Communications Center, that project is coming into completion and will be energized relatively soon. We're working through the utility interconnection process and you know this in total aren't Renewable energy that we generate represents about a third of our total electricity consumption countywide. And then when you look at the renewable energy that we procure through 3CE, it represents about 66% total renewable electricity, right?

Not necessarily renewable energy including natural gas but renewable electricity specifically. And the projects that you will see in our solar microgrid RFQ are represented here. And again, a range of large projects like the Cayo Real expansion and the downtown campus and some smaller projects like the new Quiama swimming pool and the Burton Mesa public safety facility.

All of our battery sizes are representative of roughly four hours of backup. We recognize that there are some buildings that are more critical that may need more, and some that maybe are not critical facilities that may not need any at all. Those are really important decisions that we're faced with when trying to identify which locations are best suited for solar and battery backup.

And as you'll see on the right, not inexpensive to do these projects which is part of the reason why we developed this RFQ. To better understand what does ownership look like? What does a power purchase agreement look like and what are some other creative financing options that we might look at? Supervisor Nelson asked the question of net energy metering applications. All of these projects have been submitted for NEM2 applications. Some have been approved, some are in a very complex process of questions and review.

And while we are very sensitive to the time element there are other things that present challenges in terms of us moving forward with those projects very quickly. So, you know, it's something that's important to me that we take advantage of this. And if for some reason those do expire, the biggest downside of letting go of the NEM2 applications is the value that we get from exporting solar to the grid.

So one may question, well doesn't the battery element mitigate that? And I would argue that yes it actually does mitigate some of those downsides. So if for some reason those applications expire and we have battery backup, we produce excess power from the solar array and that actually gets stored for later use rather than exporting it to the grid and then buying it back from the grid at a later date.

So we're pursuing NEM 2 applications, all of them that we've submitted. And we recognize that having battery elements does mitigate some of those downsides.

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ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:07:28

Supervisor

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:07:28

Nelson?

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:07:28

Yes, thank you Chair Lavigneau. You said for all these projects but we did register for even more than these projects for the NEM2.0 or are these only

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:07:36

projects that we- These represent the entirety of the NEM 2 projects that were submitted. Okay

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:07:41

and so there are various financing options The math changes with the two versus three when we go to different grants or work with different partners, or whatever it's a power purchase agreement or whatever how these things these work. And so there's kind of a tipping point on the feasibility right?

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:08:03

Yeah, so there is a tipping point of feasibility if we don't have battery backup options. So if we are just grid-tied with no backup then there is a tipping point in terms of when a provider might be interested in coming in and saying we'll do a power purchase agreement for this project because they do factor in the value of export and the total cost.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:08:25

Sure, and the battery technology is still pretty expensive. Right? And it's cost prohibitive. So before any of these expire I hope that comes back to the board with at least an opportunity for us to take advantage of something before we just opt for hey maybe we'll just wait till we get a battery. I'd hate to see that go by. I think there's too much invested in where we're at right now to do that so I don't know whose decision that is.

I hope it ends up ultimately on our shoulders at the board not on a staff level

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:08:54

Yeah, Supervisor Nielsen through the chair. I'll make sure that as soon as we get feedback, we're expecting to go out to bid and release this RFQ this month. As soon as we get responses, I'll be prepared to present the findings and then together we can make a decision on what's best to move forward. And

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:09:10

are we bidding these with or without batteries so that we can take advantage of either of those options?

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:09:14

Yeah. And

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:09:15

then tie in a battery in the future if

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:09:17

Yeah, we'll present this as a battery option is what we would like to do. We would like to see batteries included in all of these projects but we want to be able to see the economics with and without. Great thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:09:29

Supervisor Caps.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.673:09:31

I just want to echo that, again you understand this far better than I but my understanding is it's much more economic to stay within NEM 2.0 and so if there are challenges, you mentioned challenges we don't have to get into them now but if there are challenges that we should be aware of or that we can help with I just want to not let these opportunities go by. I know you share that sentiment so thank you.

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:09:56

Yeah absolutely. Okay, so we're going to take a transition into the decarbonization roadmap. This was in collaboration with the sustainability team and we hired a partner Veragy who supported us in this process and really we looked at every building that the county owns And where are we getting our power from? What infrastructure exists? And other questions came up as to whether that is new or aging infrastructure. Are they good candidates for replacement? The long list of variables that we're considering when prioritizing projects that we think are good investments, so here you'll see a summary where we have identified about 50% of all buildings are currently all electric And about 42% of the total square footage that we own and operate are currently all electric buildings.

So roughly 50% more to go, a lot of those are much larger buildings and can be very complex in terms of retrofits and upgrades but we're in a good point right now. And below we'll see that we have about 625 internal combustion engines that were focusing on identifying a transition plan to electric vehicles. We currently have about 93 EVs in operation now, so a lot of work to do but we have a plan to move forward with that as well.

Here is something that you will see in the decarbonization roadmap. These are identified as the top five buildings for electrification, and I'll pause and say that I'm very aware of our net zero energy resolution and very aware of the challenges that are presented in order to achieve that. So part of what General Services wants to do is, you know, sustainability is in our core values. And part of that is a fiscal responsibility, you know, that is balanced with our environmental responsibility and making buildings that are more comfortable for everybody in them.

So identifying projects that need replacement immediately and have a relatively high savings in terms of emissions per year, have low incremental costs. And this is a big one that we think is important moving forward in terms of the metric of how we look at buildings. We know systems will need to get replaced, and we know that there's going to be a relatively large capital investment. How much more would we have to spend to electrify those systems? And that's what the incremental project cost is.

And looking at with that additional investment, how quickly could we recover that incremental cost from the savings from those projects? And so that's what you see in the second-to-last column there. So some of these buildings, we're looking at feasibility. Can it work? How old is it? Are we going to keep this building around? What are the incremental costs? And then from there, going into a design phase formal bid. This is a process of looking at the 18% funds, CIP, other funding mechanisms that might be available to help us achieve those zero net energy goals.

Here we have the impacts of vehicle electrification. So, you know this transition isn't going to happen overnight We're prepared to put together a long-range plan for electrifying our the entirety of our fleet But you'll see that You know while there are significant upfront capital costs from transitioning our internal combustion engines to electric vehicles We have seen that they're considerably more affordable to operate over time And, you know this is a primary lever for us to reduce our municipal greenhouse gas emissions in the immediate future.

So looking forward, we have some challenges and opportunities. The big one in the elephant in the room is that costs are rising at a pretty alarming rate and oftentimes outpacing how quickly we can reduce energy. Also the cost per metric ton of CO2 reduced in the built environment can tend to be higher than in other sectors. Transportation is one where CO2 reduced per dollar invested is quite more favorable.

Reducing emissions from employee commuting is quite complex. We have cost of living challenges, affordable housing, location to public transport, et cetera that all factor in. Our costs for performing energy efficiency in existing buildings is quite expensive whether it's the age of the building and the existing infrastructure or the rising costs of new technology.

And there's always personnel and budget constraints, but this is why we're engaging in this long-range planning and this roadmap development so that we can be prepared moving forward. There are a number of opportunities. One that was discussed is the ability for us to capitalize on the investment tax credit which will be the first year that we submit a tax return which is new for us right? It's a process We're engaged in both on the renewable energy side, the battery store side as well as EV charging infrastructure and vehicles themselves so we can receive payments for those investments.

Building operational improvements and efficient designs are a primary lever for decreasing energy use. Really excited to see a lot of our new buildings coming online. The RFCC probation headquarters are very advanced technologically, all electric buildings which is not a small feat to electrify buildings of those size so it's really exciting to see those new projects coming online.

The return on investment for energy projects continues to improve as the unit cost increases for electricity and gas. It's not something to be overly excited about, but it's the reality. The return on investment continues to improve as costs increase. Our decarbonization effort will target the gas-powered infrastructure that's aging and prioritize renewable energy to lower overall operational costs.

And the transition from gas powered to electric vehicles will increase county electricity demands while reducing overall emissions, so opportunity for us to take advantage of our renewable energy infrastructure as we transition our vehicle fleet.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:16:42

Supervisor Nelson?

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CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:16:45

That concludes my presentation. Thank you so much. All right, great questions or would you rather go to public comment first?

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:16:53

I

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:16:54

have

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:16:54

a question. You mentioned 18% and I was just kind of taking it back but that's deferred maintenance money so I'm just trying to understand how that money would be targeted for

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:17:10

Supervisor Nelson, through the Chair. The money wouldn't necessarily be targeted but I do work hand in hand with facilities to identify projects that make sense for the use of those funds and I'm certainly not targeting them for my projects by any means. Okay it just

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:17:26

sounded

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:17:26

that way

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:17:27

and then you know I was curious about when we look at these buildings are we also looking at employee commutes as part of the portfolio? And I'm for some reason not finding the presentation on In the record, by the way. So I was trying to bring it back up so I could grab the right slide. So maybe when we're looking at these building inventories and we talk about that commutes are we examining that as part of the road map?

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:17:55

Supervisor Nelson through the Chair, specifically for the decarbonization roadmap and the building electrification effort. The proximity to where people are living wasn't taken into consideration.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:18:07

And that's kind of the biggest piece of the inventory though right? Employee

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:18:12

commute absolutely

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:18:13

so we're gonna do all this and not look at the elephant in the room

CommentSherry BundenhovenProposed · by introduction3:18:21

Supervisors, that's actually part of the cap. The climate action plan about looking at employee commutes and there are some several actions of the cap regarding that.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:18:28

I guess I'm just trying to figure out how that fits in with all this. It sounds like a decarbonization it should feed into general services right? I mean if the idea that we should be siting buildings you know with that in mind if that's what we're trying to accomplish. Are we doing evaluations on buildings and taking a look at that? You know, where do our employees work and are we trying to make sure that our buildings are in a place where we can reduce these trips which could make a lot of this, you know even some of these gains moot. Right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed3:19:01

Supervisor Nelson through the Chair, Garrett Wong here, the Climate Program Manager. So we helped to support this effort by supporting the Municipal Decarbonization Roadmap along with the Municipal Greenhouse Gas Inventory and I want to make sure that we're distinguishing the different work efforts and the different outcomes and then also the next steps so the General Services Update is really meant to focus on what general services has the primary domain over which is our facilities in our vehicle fleet, and then on occasion the new establishment of facilities.

The employee commute aspect that we uplifted in the inventory is something that will be addressed through a separate effort. We have a Clean Commute Committee which does consist of General Services, Sustainability Division and our Human Resources Department as well as SPCAG. So that's an interdepartmental committee that's looking at different ways of engaging employees, offering different incentives, raising awareness about different commuting options.

And at a later date we will be coming back to the board with some recommendations and some funding allocations from the Sustainability Initiatives Fund that we'd like to dedicate to that end.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:20:20

Yeah, I don't think the question is getting answered that I'm trying to ask here. So we have buildings. That's general services. I think that's your purview. And we site them places and there's an employee commute that feeds into that which is the biggest draw of greenhouse gases for that building is where it's located. And so are we even looking at that when we think about where we put a building in this county? We talked about job housing imbalance for a decade But we're doing all this stuff, and we're spending all these millions of dollars. And are we just asking the simple question could we solve most of these problems by just locating the building somewhere that would make sense to reduce employee miles?

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:21:02

CEO Miyasato.

CommentSherry BundenhovenProposed · by introduction3:21:03

Supervisors, I think that's a good idea. As you know it's not like we go out and buy property all the time for new facilities. A lot of it is improving the facilities we have on the land that we have if we could turn back the time 50 years ago maybe we would've made different decisions knowing where we are today but I think that's it. If you would like us to look at if any new property comes about to see what's the proximity to existing employees we could do that. That would be probably a good exercise. I think if you're trying to make the connection about where we cite new county facilities in regard to employee commutes, I think that's a good exercise for us to do but I just want to make sure that's what you're indicating.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:21:47

Yeah, that's what I'm indicating and our last two buildings that were citing is a dispatch center and a probation building Again, areas that are remote from most of that workforce. So the reason why I think we should be looking at that is I think that that should have gone into that consideration in the first place. Yes, I know that probation building near a courthouse, that makes sense, I get it but maybe it should've been a smaller building and there shouldn't have been an outpost for a lot of other workers that was more centrally located for probation workers. Same thing with dispatch. A dispatch could be anywhere or doesn't even need to be in our county.

But if we're gonna try to attack these issues, we have another tool to doing that And we are, we are locating buildings in every couple of years. The significant infrastructure, you know how we even looked at that as part of the Cal Real master plan is what, you know does that make sense for all those functions at that location? Is there something better in Buellton? Is there something better in Santa Maria? You know, that's where our population is moving. That's where it's the housing is more affordable. So I understand what we're trying to accomplish here but there's a bigger picture that I think we need to take a step back and that we have a lot more power over and it's not just stuff Turning the clock back 50 years, we're making decisions within the last six months that impact this.

And so I'm just asking if we're taking that into consideration? No, we haven't yet. But if you really want to attack this, I would see where we get our best bang for our buck is actually doing that and then we can accomplish a lot of our goals. Housing for employees, reduction of greenhouse gases, potentially more affordable construction costs in areas It might be cheaper to build.

So again, I think that that should be something we should be looking at.

CommentSherry BundenhovenProposed · by introduction3:23:27

Supervisor, and I'm not disagreeing with you it would be like you said it's a larger view of where our county facilities are because obviously if they were all in North County where housing is more affordable for our employees then that would be you know a rational decision but we're also looking at costs of land we own all of that but I agree it's a larger discussion that we should have

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:23:55

Okay let's go to public

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:23:57

comment.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:23:59

Let's go to public comment and then we'll come back because it let's take care of Ben.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:24:05

We have two requests to speak on this item, we're going to begin with Cindy Zavala to be followed by Ben Schwartz. Cindy?

CommentCindy ZavalaProposedself-stated3:24:16

Well good afternoon I'm Cindy Zavala and I'm here in regards to the sign issue as far as real estate and being able to utilize the signs in the community. In Santa Barbara, on and off since 1970. So in our community. I'm in my fourth career now and I'm a real estate agent now. I've been a dry cleaner. I've been a school bus driver. I have been an MTD driver and now I am a real estate agent.

So I have changed with our community and in this real estate community right now, having the signs available for us to be able to communicate with the general public is a very important issue. Some of these things that I do know is that signs are bases with our neighborhoods showing people where to go just even garage sale signs I understand the county is trying to limit our sign usage.

So when I started in 2019, I started as a brand new real estate agent and then COVID hit. So I only had a little bit of time before that. Anyway, I digress. So garage sales signs are used in our community Giving the public opinion options to look forward and to being homeowners and aspirations for their future. Instrumental in marketing our community, and providing the best services for our property owners who have housing available for new homes, housing projects, and housings which is A current, which is an occurrent issue in our community as we all know.

And for our property owners in our county so one of these things that in my brokerage and I work for Keller Williams And in our brokerage, we utilize these signs on a open house basis so that people can walk in and be able to see a home in Santa Barbara. And the people that can hopefully buy a home in Santa Barbara. So that's part of the equation. And that's what I came here today to talk to everyone about and I wanted Thank you. And we will now go to our final speaker Ben Schwartz.

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CommentBen SchwartzProposedself-stated3:27:43

Good afternoon, Chair and Supervisors. Just first of all I want to say that we're really excited about the solar microgrid RFQ and then to quickly add two points of clarification based on the conversation that the Board has had. The first is on the tax credit for systems—solar systems, battery storage systems—the investment tax credit. The base tax credit is 30 percent But there are actually two add-ons. There is a 10% add-on for domestic materials and another 10% add-on for projects that are located in disadvantaged communities, so potentially the total tax credit can be as high as 50% for a project.

And then on the question of NEM 2.0, the transition happened in April of 2023 and the policy states that a connection if an application was submitted before that deadline, the last date for a connection which will still be able to be grandfathered into NEM is in April of 2026. So the board has two more years since those applications were submitted before a decision technically has to be finalized, thank you.

Thank you

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:28:58

and that concludes public comment on this item

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:29:01

okay let's start off with Supervisor Williams

CommentHarry RubinProposed · by introduction3:29:06

Well, Ben's comment was gonna be part of mine. It really leads to the advice that I have for the Board of Supervisors. As your energy provider, I guess I would wear two hats for the 3C and say it was fine if you wait for a 3CE but actually from the county's perspective financially we gotta go forward quickly. The difference of The cost savings between NEM 2.0 and NEM 3 is significant, and the scale of those projects, while big and expensive, their payback period will be better.

And I can tell you that it'll be better than current calculations because current calculations don't factor in a battery incentive from 3CE As I've told you, we just unveiled a systematic battery incentive for residential customers. While we don't have a commercial industrial battery program yet, we intend to have one And the County of Santa Barbara is kind of like one of the good children of 3CE. So if the county asked for a battery incentive that was equivalent to the residential one, I'm sure we would get it.

And so I think general services and our partners should move forward with alacrity on those especially the two bigger projects I just want to also correct some data that will help actually with the amount of savings because your staff keep on underreporting the amount of carbon-free energy coming out of 3CE. It's understandable because the numbers have changed so fast, you know in 2019 it was only It was only 23%. The last year of official figures, it's 48% and some change to almost 49%, and our current mix is in reality though it's not an official figure reported to the state yet is over 50%, about 52.

And so that dramatically changes our carbon reduction potential in the calculations. So, you know, I think that just adds more fuel to why we should do the electrification changes and to We have a lot of work that we can do for solar battery changeovers in our buildings. I totally agree that commuting should be a big factor in what we do as a county, and I can tell you in Mona's defense that we've talked about this with all of the new buildings that have been proposed I've asked department heads for numbers of how many employees are in North and South when they ask for a building, for about the past four years. And I think we should definitely systematize that both for housing and for carbon reduction reasons. We should be locating where the people are And where our employees are both to save the environment, but also to keep our employees and to deal with the housing crisis.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:33:07

Supervisor Kaps.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.673:33:09

Thank you Mr. Keeson, I really appreciate your presentation. I'm always encouraging those who work hard and present to us to just speak to us and you really did today so I could have this kind of update constantly because there's so much that we're doing, there's so much that we can be doing. We are such huge players when it comes to our climate footprint, our resiliency footprint, our need to modernize You have a big job and you explained it very well. I appreciate it. To me, it sort of feels like spring cleaning the way that you feel when you take a look at your bills and you think okay wow I've really spent a lot on my water went up what am I doing? And I think that again this is taxpayer money and we feel that responsibility very heavily and wanting to make sure that we're as prudent as possible is a priority.

So again, I could have this update regularly because it's so important. So I just want to build on what Supervisor Nelson was talking about in terms of carpooling. I was pretty shocked to see that number that 50% 56% of our greenhouses come from employee commuting and so I guess we kind of I don't need to dredge us back up but where does it lie like within departments? Is that an HR Function to figure out sort of our carpooling strategies. I know that Ventura County has working with APCD a model of sort of charging infrastructure, but you know sharing the burden between fleet vehicles and carpooling. I just want to understand Next steps what's happening? And where does this because sustainability and falls I believe within every department Where it is this one carpooling sit?

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:34:51

Supervisor Capps to the chair. It's my understanding, I just confirmed with Garrett that our HR department oversees our Clean Commute program in which him myself and a variety of others all participate in performing surveys and asking people how they're getting to and from work and what would need to change to change their behaviors and things like that so We all are participating in that level, but it is at the HR department in terms of incentivizing changing behaviors.

CommentSherry BundenhovenProposed · by introduction3:35:22

And supervisor of mine might add so actually when Supervisor Williams joined the county, he made a point of asking the similar question. So HR under the prior director did revamp our clean commute program working with CSD that was pre-COVID though and so maybe it could be that we need to take another look but it was trying to incentivize carpools figuring out Incentives for people to carpool, take the bus etc. But we can ask the HR department to take another look with CSD now that it's post COVID and we have a different environment.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.673:35:53

Yeah, just be curious to see how remote what has changed since the pandemic. I speak humbly because I have a four minute commute and I'm very appreciative of that so I respect the fact that it is a reality for the work we do here but I think if you were shocked by that number if that's something you live with but 56% of our emissions coming from our own commuting does seem like call to action to do better, to find out how we can do better so that we're not creating such a footprint.

Okay then the next slide was on number seven I don't know if you can pull it back up if that's easy if not but in terms of buildings the fact that the Sheriff's Department is the largest emitter what what can we do with with that?

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:36:47

Well Supervisor Capsley, the Chair.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.673:36:51

22% I believe is that right of all of our buildings?

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:36:53

Yeah well so this is total emissions so it does include their fleet they have a relatively large fleet as we well know. So

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.673:37:01

its fleet plus buildings.

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:37:02

And our jails are tough nuts to crack in terms of sustainability yeah.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.673:37:07

Is that our jurisdiction or his jurisdiction? Again, I'm just trying to be constructive.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:37:14

It was our board's jurisdiction when we decided not to build a new second stage of the Northern Bridge Jail. We could have gotten rid of the one we have right now and saved a bunch of GHGs but we didn't do that so now we're stuck with an old jail.

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:37:30

And I will mention just the conundrum that we find ourselves in often these old buildings to retrofit their systems, to remove natural gas is significantly more complex than even more modern or newer buildings. Yeah.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.673:37:45

OK. All right, well. That is a

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:37:50

good point though that I don't think we really talk too much about. We do talk about what the maintenance costs are when we're talking about where to build on it when we're talking about the jail and we're going to be discussing that as we decide how we're gonna move forward in the future but I don''t think we really ever talked about...I've never really heard too much of the conversation about GHGs and emissions and what that does. It's more cost of maintenance and stuff so that has to be included in

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.673:38:19

I just again, I feel like we've had a breakthrough when it comes to power purchase agreements and this emphasis in your presentation and emphasis going forward. I hope that helps us as we face these daunting challenges but also so much money that exists out there for programs and you know we talked about some of the programs 30% or plus the 10%. I hope we're to a point where we understand that we can actually save money in going in this direction. And you did raise the right point, that we have to always balance fiscal responsibility with the need to be sustainable and energy efficient but the tide is really changing in terms of the money that's available in these agreements. So I just ask maybe you can just give me a lessons learned of the Better Avia project?

It's been a long time. How does that inform you going forward? I know, it's a saga but I just want to, I don't want to be Pollyanna about how hard these projects are. I'm a huge champion, a cheerleader for them but I also recognize that I'm the one that gets to advocate and you're the one that has to do the technical details and so if you could just speak briefly about a lesson learned going forward as we pursue power purchase agreements or other funding schemes.

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:39:34

Yeah, Supervisor Kapsch to the Chair. Lessons learned at BetterAvia begin well before my time here and I'm a Bren School grad so trust me when I say I want to see all these projects get in the ground and energized as soon as possible You know, there were a lot of design decisions made in that project. Looking back we probably would have wished that we wouldn't have made costs COVID and the list goes on in terms of things that were outside of our control but within our control and we could have, we can moving forward be more thoughtful exactly how we want these systems to function and work with our contractors and our partners to ensure that those supply chains exist and that there aren't any anything that we could mitigate up front. So, you know there are a lot of things that we learned from the Better Avia project and no need to point fingers really at anyone but the project as it stands today is an incredibly good project and it's going to produce I did the math earlier the project should produce about $7 million in net present value So discounting future costs to present day value, I mean that's incredible in terms of what it provides for us.

And now considering we're applying for the tax credit and that money is on top of that potentially in terms if we consider that revenue which it could be considered so. Moving forward, it's really not clear whether owning projects or doing PPAs is the best decision for us which is why I'm so excited about this RFQ because we will really be able to see the proof is in the pudding and know exactly how we want to move forward. And we could do a variety of ownership and power purchase agreements just depends on how things play out but that's a big reason why we're so thrilled to see the results of this RFQ.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.673:41:24

Well I'll just, and I know Mr. Cason and our whole sustainability team you share this vision. I just firmly believe that our county can be a national leader when it comes to our own footprint, our own buildings, our own fleet, our own emissions, our carpooling strategies. Why not? It should happen here. I know it's easier said than done, but again, I saw it happen with our schools in Santa Barbara. We were 100% reliant on fossil fuels and soon will be about 90% reliant on renewables. It can happen and I just give you my full support.

I appreciate the foresight to put them together so we can really dive in for this length of time and appreciate the work that you all do every day. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:42:33

Yeah, I just had a couple of points not really questions. And the first has to do with the rising cost of energy and interesting statistic at 3CE that a third of our cost goes to the actual energy and solar is really dropping dramatically in price, but two-thirds is the distribution system. And you mentioned the fires and hardening our grid. So people don't understand that when they get their bill necessarily.

The other thing is about electric vehicles. I think we've asked the sheriff a number of times to pilot using electric and they are doing it in other law enforcement agencies So it has been piloted elsewhere and it is effective, but they're patrolling and driving a lot. So I don't know what we might do to encourage him, but if there is something, I'd like to know it.

And then in terms of our own employees, I wonder if there's any way to incentivize purchase of electric cars by them? If we organize something to do it in large scale, if there would be discounts or if you could explore something like that.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:43:50

Supervisor Nielsen.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:43:51

Yes, excuse me thank you Chair Labadino. I thought I heard so is the Better Avia project eligible for the tax credit? Is that what I had heard? Okay that's good news and are we taking those funds and returning those back to our utility IST? Is that where these dollars are earned up housed? That might be a

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:44:16

Supervisor Nielsen to the Chair. That's actually a question that I presented last week, so we've been so focused on trying to figure out what exactly it's going to take to submit a tax return that we haven't quite landed on where that money is going to finally live and arrive but that's an important question.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:44:34

Yeah because this makes a lot more sense when we talk about this investment if it's all in internal service fund That's great, because then we're lowering rates out of all departments. We're not tapping into the general fund which is competing for other capital dollars that I'm obviously hard at work at trying to acquire for other projects so that they start... I would rather these things not compete and if it's in the ISF it seems like that's a good place for these things to operate because we can do our own kind of financing. We can lend money to the ISF and I think that's, and for those that don't speak county, that's internal service fund So it's our, it's of its own essentially utility that we pay ourselves that. And so I really encourage that to move forward.

The RFQ, my next question on there is so in that RFQ we're going to ask people to propose projects right? Is that how that's gonna work?

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:45:31

Supervisor Nielsen through the Chair, we have identified the project sites that we...

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:45:35

Right, so they're gonna propose what they could do But, and part of that is, Anne you will have the, you will flip the switch by April 2026. That's in your RFQ.

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:45:47

To be able to meet the net energy metering requirements? Yes.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:45:51

Okay I mean I just think that that's a really powerful thing we're gonna need to think about here. I know that future projects aren't gonna take as long as BetterAvia but any project in Santa Barbara County is gonna take a year. We're already at October of 2024 You know, when is this RFQ going out? When are we getting it back?

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CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:46:11

Supervisor Nielsen through the chair. I don't have the timeline in front of me but the expectation is to release it this month.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:46:17

Okay.

CommentBrandon Kaysen I'veProposedself-stated3:46:17

So contractors will need some time to digest it due to requests for information. Yeah, we're gonna

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:46:22

run the clock out here guys and we're not gonna have any other choice but to abandon the NIM 2.0 if we're not careful so whatever that RFQ should say that we have to be flipping the switch as a condition of that project on April 20, 2026. So I want that on the potential bidder that there is that's the responsibility in their financing if they can do that it's probably going to have to pay a premium to do that but maybe they'll present it both ways pre-April 26 and post-April 26 so I think that really needs to be a part of that process and then you know I support carpooling. I know that was mentioned here, but what's better than carpooling is siding because when some of our employees have to carpool versus working someplace near them, that's potentially a couple hours that they're not coaching Little League.

They're driving back and forth, that they're not being compensated. So siting I think is even more important. I know in school districts it's a little different because you can't really move the schools but we are a big county so we can site things almost anywhere. There are things that are operational that have to be critical two places but I definitely think that overarching look and our first question should be siting to the employees first, meet them where they're at before we go down the other route in the future because I think that's the biggest number. We see it on there.

And carpooling, you know, it's a great program. We can incentivize it all day long but a lot of people will choose not to do that because they need the flexibility because of their home situation or a lot of other things that go on and we do have a great program. We have the Clean Air Express. I mean, we are already a leader in that space. We have an Internet on there. Some people can actually ‑‑ I don't know if they could get to start work on their way there or not but it's So I think we're hitting that pretty well, but I think what we need to do is really start thinking about locations of facilities.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:48:22

Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Appreciate all the work gone in today. All right. So we're kind of running out of energy up here so can I get a motion to move items A through D?

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.673:48:37

So moved.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:48:40

We have to do a roll call.

CommentHarry RubinProposed · by introduction3:48:56

And Mr. Chair, just because we may be running out of a little energy it should be reiterated that General Services has been doing an amazing job on the EV build-out stuff in particular but also the energy efficiency I just it's really the department has a lot of incredible energy these days and should be allowed it.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:49:20

Absolutely thank you for that Okay, we're now heading to recessing to closed session. County Counselor can you please read the items for consideration today?

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CommentSherry BenenhovenProposed · by introduction3:49:30

Thank You Mr. Chair members of the board. The board is scheduled to hear three items of existing litigation Solis versus the county and Castellon versus the county those are both Santa Barbara County Superior Court cases and County of Santa Barbara versus Lori Courson it's also a Santa Barbara County Superior Court case And one item of real property negotiations.

The property is 2545 Golden Gate Avenue and 2542-2554 Banner Street in Summerland, California. The agency negotiators are General Services Director Kirk Lagerquist and Public Works Director Chris Sneddon. The negotiating parties are Phyllis Noble, Michael Brinkerhoff, and David Lafitte under negotiation as price in terms of payment. And including a little bit of time to eat lunch, I think we should be able to be done in an hour.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:50:18

Okay. We'll plan on returning about five after two.

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:50:49

I'm

CommentGeneral ServicesProposed · by introduction3:50:49

going

ElectedBob NelsonSupervisorProposed · by roll-call response3:50:50

to embrace revenue.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:50:53

All right, we're reconvening the meeting of October 1st. County Council can you please report out from closed session?

CommentSherry BenenhovenProposed · by introduction3:51:00

Thank You Mr. Chair members of the board. The board met in closed session on three items of existing litigation Solis versus the county Castellon versus the county and the county versus Lori Corson and also one item of real property negotiations as listed in the agenda and the board took no reportable action

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.763:51:17

Okay, we are adjourned until October 8th Tuesday in Santa Maria.