BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 December 3, 2024

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.820:14

Good morning everybody. I'd like to call to order the December 3rd, 2024 meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. Madam Clerk can we get a roll call please?

Roll call, called by Clerk of the Board
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Supervisor Nelson? Here. Supervisor Williams? Here. Supervisor Capps? Here! Supervisor Hartman? Here and Chair LaVanina? I'm here
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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.820:33

this time please stand and join the board in pledging allegiance to the flag Ready, begin.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

All right

next item of business is the approval of the minutes from the November 5th 2024 regular meeting.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:02

So

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.821:02

moved.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:04

Second.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.821:04

Moved and seconded all those in favor? Aye Any opposed? Passes unanimously.

Next item of business will be our CEO's report. Thank you. CEO, what is it? Assistant. Assistant okay Wade Horton.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:20

Thank You Mr. Chair this morning I have an update on the work to resolve the encampments in the Santa Maria Riverbed Work initially started more than a year ago when Community Services Department Homeless Assistance Program initiated efforts to address the more than 100 large encampments sheltering approximately 150 individuals in the Santa Maria Riverbed area.

Many encampments also include animals such as dogs, cats and chickens. The photos on the left of the screen were taken in July and the photos on the right were taken in October and show the difference made over those three months. As the county staff led a coordinated effort involving San Luis Obispo County, the City of Santa Maria, Caltrans, law enforcement and service providers.

During that time 100 individuals received case management and housing support from GoodSAM, Five Cities Homeless Coalition and the Public Health, Public Defender and Behavioral Health teams. Additionally, 150 tons of debris including hazardous materials were cleared. Care for Paws and the San Luis Obispo Animal Control Services treated or rescued dozens of animals.

This collaborative effort resulted in improved environmental conditions and positive outcomes for many unhoused individuals. I'd also like to thank Joe Davonic with our Community Service Department for his boots on the ground leadership of this effort. And Joe is here if you have any questions for him.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:47

Yeah. He's using Joe if you could come to the mic I don't have any questions but I just want to say this was an issue that was plaguing Santa Maria and the entire community for over a year, I mean it this was. This was such an eyesore coming over the bridge it was kind of depressing coming back from San Luis Obispo all the time you come into your city and this was the first thing that people would see I just want to show my appreciation. I know this was a coordinated effort to our CEO's office. I know Wade really went to bat for us. I want to also thank the CEO of San Luis County, Matt Pontus, for getting us rolling up in there. I want to remind people that that entire area is the property of San Luis Obispo County but I appreciate their willingness to help us, the City of Santa Maria providing their Rangers Caltrans cleaning out underneath on their right-of-way underneath the bridge.

I just wanted to thank you both so much, your leadership. This was done in a humane manner. People were safely extricated from some of these very scary conditions that they were living in. I got to go out the first day and witness firsthand the first deputy ranger and deputy that walked up As we went to remove somebody, the first thing we heard was don't reach for that weapon from the deputy. So there was somebody in there with a gun right off the bat.

There were animals out there, there were chickens that needed to be rounded up. It was a Herculean task and Joe and Jesus your leadership really made a big difference.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed4:45

I'd like to comment. Chairman Levenino, members of the board particularly Assistant CEO Wade we appreciate very much those kind remarks but I would be remiss if I didn't acknowledge that it wasn't the director of the department at the Stafford it was really Joe Dysvonik he led the whole effort organized it work with his partners across the river Worked very closely with elected officials that also began to exhibit interests across the river. And we particularly want to acknowledge the work that you did and the work that Bob, Supervisor Nelson did. Your support your leadership your strong consistent attention to the progress that was being made was instrumental in allowing us to realize a success that we think we've achieved We want to also underscore that this is not just a one-off.

We hope to continue to pay attention to this and we will be bringing to the board in a matter of weeks proposal about keeping an eyes on that river to make sure it doesn't return to the state that was depicted in the photographs. Joe, if you would?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed5:57

Thank you, Director Armas and thank you Chair Lavagnino and members of the board and Wade for all the appreciation you're showing me. I just want to thank as I would also Kimberly Albers if she's watching. Thank you for laying the groundwork for this and the funding for this and Lucille Boss for putting together the structure and the concepts that make all of this happen. I was proud to get out there and lead it but it certainly could not have happened without their brain work and their determination so I just want to thank them personally as well and wish they were here.

Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed6:31

Yes, thank you Chair Lavagnino. I just want to go back to about a year ago when this process started. I was pretty involved in it because I had been really involved in the Lompoc Riverbed cleanup back when I was a Chief of Staff and so I was really interested in the approach that we take and how to solve this problem and like some of us elected officials do, we start to micromanage projects and Joe at that time said Let me handle this, you know and I was concerned. I said well then who's going to be responsible if this doesn't work out? And Joe said I will be and I mean that amount of extreme leadership and ownership is something that I should think it needs to be really looked at in this county and brought up.

That gave me comfort as elected to just take a step back and make sure I give you the resources or I worked at lobby to make sure we had you have the resources necessary to make the project successful and you absolutely delivered and I think it's just a real tribute to a team effort. You know I can't stress enough Almost none of these parcels were in the County of Santa Barbara. But yet, we knew that these were our residents that were now living in San Luis Obispo County and they needed help and these impacts to our residents. So instead of passing a buck like a lot of other governmental agencies typically do, you know, Santa Barbara County stepped up. I think I might have the number right but I think the resources that went into this project 80% of those were from County of Santa Barbara, our organization.

Yes, we had partnerships and help from the City of Santa Maria and San Luis Obispo County But that's an extreme amount of investment that we all made in that at this board. And so I want to just thank Joe and Jesus and their team when I think the CEO, and I want to thank my colleagues for continuing to support this without the five of us working together. This would be possible.

were when we did the original riverbed cleanup there was that we walked away when we were done. And I think it's going to take ongoing diligence and set the new norm is that this is what the expectations are, and hopefully through that we can have ongoing success in that area. So thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.828:27

Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.948:29

Well, I think another lesson that we learn is you've got to have a place to offer people to go. You can't just be pushing them around from one place to another and for that I think it took tremendous courage for Supervisors Lavinino and Nelson to stand up in a community where people really hadn't seen a success and really thought the only solution was to push people around. It took a lot of political heat to create Hope Village, but I believe that that is what enabled us to along with other shelters and opportunities that are available. But that really made this river cleanup possible and I contacted Joe several times over the last several months and he was always in the riverbed.

This was hands-on hard work. He really did take Personal responsibility for this and it's been an extraordinary effort. I hope people are seeing a change in our county, I do when I take the train, when I drive the freeway we are making a difference but I would say there's one place left that really desperately is a humanitarian crisis And we need to work with the city of Lompoc and the residents of Lompoc because what's happening in the Santa Ynez River is unconscionable.

We just can't stand by any longer, and I know you're as committed as I am to take this success and help them understand that they too can have a picture like that So thank you from the bottom of my heart because it gives us all a sense of accomplishment and a great sense of hope.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8210:21

Yep, thanks a lot. Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed10:24

you

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8210:24

appreciate it All right, is that finished CEO's report?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed10:30

We have more to go.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8210:30

Yeah we're just rolling let's go!

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed10:33

On a more seasonal note the county is sponsoring the Unity Shop and the Marine Corps Toys for Tots toy drive where county employees and the public may donate new unwrapped toys. Collection bins are located in the County Administration Building in Santa Barbara and San Maria through December 18th. Collection boxes are also located at county fire stations Executive director of the uni shop Angela Miller Bevin is join us from the hearing room Santa Barbara to say a few words.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8211:11

She's in Santa Barbara and we'll

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed11:12

see if.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role11:16

And if we can get Santa Barbara on the screen here in Santa Maria. Can you hear me now

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed11:27

Thank you for having me today. I just want to tell you how grateful we are for your continued support over the years with our toys for tots program, the gifts that are collected go to well deserving young children in our community and we're just blessed to have such a giving community and Thank you for bringing up the about Lompoc and getting them some help because we also have opened a unity shop in Lompok. So, we are continuing on with helping others in Santa Barbara County.

So thank you very much.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed11:58

Thank you. And today the board would like to contribute to the drive and all these toys will go to low income needy children in our community.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8212:06

Thanks Wade so Doss you want to talk about your gift?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role12:11

Sure, this is a school bus and I believe that you vote every day with how you spend money on what kind of world you want to live in. So it's made in USA so workers get paid good wages. It's fully recycled plastic therefore using less carbon emissions. Uh-oh let me look at my box. It's also. Just from you know, you'd a made in USA little toy is hard to find it's 2 blocks You know Amazon moving boxes all over the place and filling up our landfill so.

This this an example of the kind of toy you can get for relatively affordable amounts in from

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed13:11

Thank you along those lines. This is from this is a nature art set, but from a bookstore and bookstores are incredibly important especially in young minds as from Chaucer's which just celebrated their 50th anniversary and a passing of the torch with new leadership local leadership my son helped us pick this out. It's a nature arts at which combines all good things for kids nature art and books

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8213:36

supervisor Hartman

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.9413:40

Let's see, I serve on the Fire Safe Council and am always encouraging people to do more to help our firefighters be fire safe. So that's the professional reason but I also have a three-year-old grandson who recently moved to Goleta and he is just crazy about firefighters and he often likes to be carried but if I can point out a fire hydrant I can get him to run like a firefighter and don't have to lug him around

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed14:08

Supervisor Nelson. Yes, thank you Chair Lavineto. Never too early to start the career in farming and so our office is a John Deere office of my assistant Elizabeth her brother Sal is the general manager over there at Cal Coast here in Santa Maria and so we just always like to encourage our young kids to start thinking about their future and where food comes from so we've got a John Deere

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8214:34

dump truck here Very cool and in the kind of the same vein that the county's had a really hard time recruiting. So we can get somebody out there started to have a great career at the county so I guess we'll take the toys down and put them in the bin.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed15:01

Oh, we got to get a photo.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8215:02

That's right. Okay now I'm very curious, what would a county council gift? What was that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed15:51

It was a very strong Disney princess.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8215:53

Oh strong Disney princess right on okay very cool all right yeah what were you expecting like she would give law books for

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role16:01

Christmas?

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8216:03

Free legal advice So CEO assistant, Assistant CEO Wharton put the two names together. Are we? Is that the end of it? We're done. Okay, we're done. Sounds good. Madam Clerk any changes or announcements to our agenda today?

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role16:21

Good morning. Chair Lavagnino members of the board I do have a few announcements this morning we received a continuance request from the auditor controllers office for administrative item number 8 administrative item number 8 is regarding the AB 1600 mitigation fee annual report for fiscal year 2023 through 2024, the auditor controllers offices requesting to continue to the December 17th 2024 meeting in Santa Barbara and with no requests Additionally we received a withdrawal request from the General Services Department for administrative item number 27. Administrative item number 27 is regarding an agreement with Iron Mountain for countywide document shredding services and with no requests to speak on this item as well, this withdrawal of the item can be added to the balance of the administrative agenda Additionally we have a correction to be announced from the department on administrative item number 50.

Administrative Item Number 50 is from the Public Works Department, Board of Directors Flood Control and Water Conservation District. It is regarding a second amendment to the Agreement for Services of Independent Contractor for Maintenance of Revegetation for the Santa Maria River Realignment Project and this is in the 5th district And the correction should be reflected in recommendation B to read authorize an increase of 40,000 to the contingency amount of 27,000. To a total contingency amount and this should read 67,000 to the agreement with environscaping enviroscaping Inc. And lastly for the Board of Supervisors methods of participation and to provide public comment on general public comment or an item on Individuals that would like to provide verbal public comment may do so via zoom by registering in advance via the link available on page 2.

If you have any questions, please contact the clerk of the board's office at area code 805-568-2240 again that number is 805-562-240 and that concludes my announcements for today

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8218:17

okay thank you very much next item business is the administrative agenda would any board members like to pull any items from the agenda supervisor Hartman

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.9418:27

831.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8218:29

831 supervisor Nelson none supervisor Williams a 1717 got it okay madam clerk do any members of the public wish to pull any items from the agenda?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role18:43

Chair Lavagnino, members of the board we have 14 number 58 yep

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8218:52

Okay, so I'll now entertain a motion to approve the balance of the administrative agenda except for A17, 831 and 858 with the continuance of A8 and withdrawal of A27. Moved and seconded. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously. The next item

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role19:22

Chair Lavinino, members of the board. Administrative item number one is sponsored by Supervisor Lavinino. It is to adopt a resolution of accommodation honoring Monica, excuse me, Monica Gagliardini of Child Support Services as the December 2024 Employee of the Month in Santa Barbara County and joining us in person today we have Monica Gagliardini, Josie Felix and Meta Richardson And if you can please come to the podium and I'll go ahead and read the resolution.

Whereas Monica Galliardini exemplifies the county's organizational values of accountability, customer focus, equity and inclusion, innovation, trust, and ethics. And whereas Monica Galliardini models that transformative behaviors of collaborative problem solving alignment with the county's vision risk taking data driven decision making and strategic thinking And whereas Monica Galliardini has a wide variety of critical responsibilities within the department including conducting staff training, managing high-profile and high conflict child support cases, preparing and filing documents in cases before the Workers' Compensation Appeals Board, monitoring cases with an incarcerated participant, and a significant number of other important assignments which contribute to the strong performance of the department.

And whereas Monica Galliardini has been a leader in working with stakeholders throughout the department to create and maintain the Microsoft OneNote application, which documents the Department's processes and best practices. It is an invaluable tool used daily throughout the department to support staff who operate in a child support program that is highly complex and ever-evolving with frequent legal policy and procedural changes.

And whereas Monica Galliardini quietly and without self-promotion performs excellent work day after day, month after month and year after year can be counted on when times get tough will drop what she is doing to assist others when needed and brightens the day of everyone she encounters as she carries out her job responsibilities with kindness compassion and the utmost competence.

Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors recognizes Monica Galliardini as the employee of the month for December 2024 passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed21:47

Good morning chair Levin you know and members of the board I met a Richardson child support services director and I am so pleased to be here today along with Josie Felix. Child Support Services supervisor to honor Monica Galliardini as the county's December 2024 employee of the month in Monica's role as a child support Officer Senior, she navigates many of the most complex child support issues and she develops training programs for child support officers throughout the department.

In her 25 years with a department Monica has without fail and without exception embraced her many responsibilities with professionalism expertise, kindness, empathy, positivity, calmness, accuracy and efficiency. Monica was selected for this honor by our Child Support Services team and is someone who everyone wants on their team because she is an outstanding and collaborative team member who not only gets the job done but who is also a pleasure to work with.

Thank you Monica for everything you do for our department. Josie Felix, Monica's supervisor would like to say a few words.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed23:07

Good morning. For 25 years Monica has been a key part of child support services and I've had the privilege of working alongside her for 22 of those years I was Monica's first trainee, then later became a trainer myself and I've had the opportunity to learn and grow because of her. Monica's dedication expertise and kindness set her apart she's the one we all turn to when we need guidance or a fresh perspective. Monica calm demeanor and collaborative approach make even the toughest challenges feel manageable and her sense of humor keeps the team grounded whether she's training new staff mentoring her peers working on reports or updating our business processes she does it all with professionalism and a caring attitude Monica, you're not just a fantastic coworker and a dear friend to me.

You truly the heart of our team. Congratulations and thank you for everything. Thank you. Madam Clerk, A2.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role24:23

Chair Lavinino, members of the board. Administrative item number two is sponsored by Supervisor Kaps and Supervisor Hartman. It is to adopt a resolution commemorating the 100th anniversary of the Junior League of Santa Barbara and joining us via Zoom today we have Jenny Elise Ramirez. And if we can see Jenny on the screen I will go ahead and read the resolution.

Whereas Junior League of Santa Barbara Inc., JLSB, was established in 1924 as an organization whose mission is to advance women's leadership for meaningful community impact through volunteer action, collaboration and training. And whereas for the past century, JLSB has been a driving force in cultivating a culture of active citizenship, community involvement and personal development among its members. And whereas JLSB has consistently demonstrated a commitment to the betterment of society through various impactful projects, initiatives and community service endeavors. And whereas JLSB's focus area is improving the lives of at-risk young women by educating and empowering them to reach their full potential while working to prevent exploitation and injustice in our community.

And whereas JLSB has served as a beacon of inspiration by fostering a spirit of innovation, collaboration and social responsibility among its members. Thereby contributing significantly to the growth in progress of the city and county of Santa Barbara. And whereas JLS B has played a vital role in shaping It is fitting to recognize and commend the organization for a century of unwavering commitment to fostering leadership, community service and personal development among the women in Santa Barbara. Now therefore be it hereby ordered We express gratitude for the organization's century-long commitment to empowering young leaders and making a positive impact in communities past and adopted today.

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PresenterJenny Elise RamirezJunior League of Santa BarbaraProposedself-stated26:34

Thank you so much chair and members of the board. I am Jenny Elise Ramirez, the current president of the Junior League of Santa Barbara. The Junior League of Santa Barbara is an organization of women whose mission is to advance women's leadership for meaningful community impact through volunteer action collaboration and training. We did start in 1924 so we are extremely excited to be celebrating our 100th year We partner with many local non-profits, helping them further their missions reaching more and more people. One of those partners is an organization called 4 Kids 2 Kids, and together we work to create a safe place and help support survivors of trafficking.

In 2018, we facilitated the opening of our Safe House which is a six bed shelter for girls 12 to 18. We have served 177 girls since inception which is wonderful. In 2020, we facilitated the opening of Living Arrows which is a two six bed shelter one for boys and one for girls ages 18 to 21. And since inception, we have served 81 boys and girls. Another very exciting thing about this year's the Junior League is excited to be giving away $100,000 For the hundredth year to our community through our Community Assistance Funds grants. These are grants that we award to local nonprofits, this is a program that started in 1988 with an average of five to 10 K. given out each year, and this year we are giving 10 times more that with a lofty goal of $100,000.

So please let every nonprofit know to apply for those grants. The Junior League of Santa Barbara has always believed in the transformative power of action by addressing today's challenges. We are laying the groundwork for a future that reflects the values of compassion, inclusivity and progress. I'm so proud to be the president of this incredible organization of changemakers Together we are proving that when we empower the present they lead, thrive and shine. Thank you all so much for recognizing the Junior League of Santa Barbara for their hundred years of service to our beautiful Santa Barbara community and I cannot wait to see what we can accomplish in the next 100 years.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8228:52

Let's go to A3 or yeah A3

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role29:02

Chair Lavinino and members of the Board, Administrative Item number 3 is sponsored by Supervisor Capps. It is to adopt a resolution proclaiming the month of December 2024 as National Impaired Driving Prevention Month in Santa Barbara County and joining us in person today we have our District Attorney John Savarnak and joining us via Zoom we have Victoria Plascencia And if we could see Victoria on the screen and John and who else you would like to join you at the podium I'll go ahead and read the resolution.

Whereas, we reaffirm our commitment to ensuring road safety by preventing impaired driving and increasing awareness about the dangers of driving while under the influence And whereas from January 1st, 2023 to January 1st 2024 Santa Barbara County experienced 283 alcohol related crashes resulting in 17 fatalities and 344 injuries. And whereas in the first half of 2024 alone 134 alcohol impaired driving incidents in Santa Barbara County led to one fatality and 24 serious injuries And whereas the physical, mental and emotional consequences of driving under the influence can be devastating leading to injury loss of life and lasting impacts on victims and families.

And where as December is recognized as National Impaired Driving Prevention Month because it is one of the most dangerous months for driving around the holidays. And in December 2023 29 DUI related collisions in Santa Barbara County resulted in 4 fatalities and 33 injuries. And whereas the goal of recognizing national impaired driving prevention month is to educate drivers on preventing themselves and others from driving impaired and to raise awareness about the dangers of driving under the influence of any alcohol or substances throughout the month of December. Now therefore be it hereby ordered him resolved that this Board of Supervisors declares the month of December 2024 is national impaired driving prevention month in Santa Barbara County and recognizes mothers against drunk driving for their efforts

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed31:02

Supervisor Capps, through the chair. I know that this is a violent crime that has impacted your family and I thank you for supporting this resolution. We are all shocked, horrified, angered and frustrated when we see and read the reports In the District Attorney's Office, we feel it profoundly in interacting with the victims who continue to suffer as a result of this preventable crime.

As we interact with the officers who are exposed to the horrors that can be I am extremely proud of the ever burgeoning partnership that the District Attorney's Office has with Mothers Against Drunk Driving. Because Mothers Against Drunk Driving don't let the frustration win. They continue to give us hope. They continue to emphasize the need to get the message out, to avoid this.

To avoid those horrible phone calls and visits from law enforcement officers in the middle of the night. I put up a lot of Christmas trees and on the big tree in my living room in the center. I have a very simple it's a glass heart with metallic confetti and don't worry, I won't send it to the landfill. It will always be in my tree And a simple note from a woman by the name of Victoria Flores, who when I was in Fresno was the chair of the local MADD chapter.

She is a mother that will forever grieve the loss of her son to an impaired driver. And she manifested that grief by trying to keep other people from feeling the way that she felt on that night and for the rest of her life. And this isn't about threats of prosecution because I can assure you that's not a threat. That's a promise. The District Attorney's Office will aggressively prosecute DUIs, we will very aggressively prosecute any impaired driver that hurts or kills someone but none of us want to go there It is about the messaging. It is about avoiding it in the first place, make a plan.

The more people that know, the more people are aware, the more people that talk to everybody that you have contact with, the fewer impaired drivers will be out there and given that every impaired driver is a threat to the life and safety of all of us in Santa Barbara County If each and every one of us just impacts one person, we have made a significant difference. It is my sincere hope in this season of giving that what we give each other are safe roads so we can enjoy the holidays, so we can provide the necessary services, we can get to work, we ca live our lives without facing the risks that impaired drivers give. And for further bolstering, giving me the continued will to continue to fight I thank the wonderful people at Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

Victoria?

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CommentVictoria PlasenciaProposedself-stated35:21

Thank you so much for having me. It really means a lot to be here, and I do wish I was in person with you all shoulder-to-shoulder. There's a different energy with that. My name is Victoria Plasencia. I have the joy of serving our beautiful Central Coast region For Mothers Against Drunk Driving, Ventura, Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo Counties. It's always been such an honor to work with the Office of Supervisor Laura Capps, her staff, her team and also the Santa Barbara District Attorney's Office.

Their commitment to combating impaired driving has been absolutely remarkable and consistent, and their dedication towards public safety is admirable. They continue to strive towards improving and protecting the lives of our county, our city, our roadways, communities, neighborhoods, and our families. The holidays are meant to be enjoyed with our loved ones, and one life taken or one empty seat at the table from a 100% preventable crime is absolutely unacceptable.

MADD's new tagline is Impaired Driving Ends Here. We will be dedicated to this in our everyday work, which involves implementing our prevention education for youth, parents and professionals, attending DUI saturations and checkpoints, hosting victim storytelling and impact panels, and supporting youth-led campaigns In 2024, MADD California facilitated 220 presentations to youth about traffic safety, underage substance abuse prevention and how to avoid getting into a vehicle with an impaired driver. 27,299 participants sat in on our victim impact panels and 530,460 education materials were distributed.

These few tools are part of our much larger mission to end impaired driving. As the holidays are one of the highest at-risk times for impaired driving crashes, this resolution comes perfect timing and will spark awareness, a sense of duty and accountability for each of us not just public servants or the folks who are in the industry or elected officials but rather a responsibility of civilian to civilian, neighbor to neighbor, friend to friend to create safer roadways so that every person can get to their destination or enjoy the season with their loved ones.

We are grateful for the sponsorship of this resolution from the Office of Supervisor Laura Capps, and MADD supports today's resolution wholeheartedly. Be it resolved that mothers against drunk driving hereby accepts the proposed resolution regarding the Declaration of December 2024 as National Impaired Driving Prevention Month in Santa Barbara County. Thank you so much.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8238:17

Thank you supervisor caps.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed38:21

Yeah, thank you to our district attorney and his team who have made this a top priority and to mad to represent so many people so many people who've lost loved ones who channel that Immense grief and pain into action because what we're doing today is spreading the word and that's this is one challenge that if we just continue to talk about it continue to beat the drum. Everybody makes choices every day that impacts others, and this is one choice as the holidays are upon us with festivities that we can all make that really impacts other people's lives just be responsible there's no reason in this day and age with with Uber, with Lyft, with making a plan that anyone has to drive impaired. As the District Attorney mentioned my mom and dad were struck by a drunk driver years ago on Highway 154.

Thankfully they survived weeks in the hospital for my father And it's just taught me a huge lesson of how you channel that pain, and my heart goes out to so many people affiliated with Mothers Against Drunk Driving because they don't get to have their loved ones at the holiday table this year. So thank you for this resolution and again to the District Attorney for your actions.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8239:38

Thank you. Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.9439:42

Yeah, I thank you for your impassioned speech about this and thank you to Matt and to Supervisor Capps. This is really resonating I think across our community because we recently lost two little girls just outside Lompoc And what people may not know is one of our county employees, not an emergency worker held one of those little girls thrown from the car in his arms as she died. And there's no excuse for this and so each of us I know our County Substance Use Disorder we're working with people all the time but That can't happen. And so thank you so much for bringing this and focusing attention on it right now because it's especially painful.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed40:30

Thank you, Supervisor.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8240:32

Thank you. That takes us to our last administrative resolution which is Administrative Item Number 4.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role40:43

Chair Lavinino, members of the board. Administrative item number four is sponsored by Supervisor Capps and Supervisor Hartman. It is to adopt a resolution in support of immigrants and migrants in Santa Barbara County. And joining us here in person today we have Maria Salguero from the Immigrant Legal Defense Center and via Zoom we have Leslie Marin Juarez from the Santa Barbara City College Dream Center.

And if Maria can please join us at the podium and I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Whereas the County of Santa Barbara believes that the physical safety and emotional well-being of all children, individuals and families in our county is critical to providing for and protecting our quality of life. And no election result changes our commitment to all people within our county. All those who live in our county can depend on county staff to model and maintain an environment of respect and compassion for all individuals.

And whereas with potential policy changes coming from the next administration, we believe it is important to affirm our policies as supporting all individuals regardless of immigration status. And whereas furthermore within a highly charged atmosphere driven by national politics, it is all the more imperative to reduce the fear that is being felt locally throughout our county We can do so by dispelling myths, sharing accurate information about the many resources available to the immigrant and migrant community and working to mitigate bullying harassment and discrimination of all kinds. And whereas the county provides a social safety net to our most vulnerable individuals and families many of which serve immigrants and migrants irrespective of status such as the state's nutrition assistance program CalFresh these services will continue and we will ensure that those accessing them are safe and supported And whereas California officially became a sanctuary state in 2017 when Governor Jerry Brown signed Senate Bill 54, also known as the California Values Act.

The law limits cooperation between state and local law enforcement agencies and federal immigration authorities. And whereas there are many organizations dedicated to supporting the welfare of immigrants and migrants including Immigrant Legal Defense Center in Porta Santa Barbara We are committed to supporting our community and work collaboratively for a stronger Santa Barbara County.

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PresenterMaria SalgueroImmigrant Legal Defense CenterProposedself-stated43:29

Chair and members of the board, thank you. My name is Maria Salguero. I'm a staff attorney with the Immigrant Legal Defense Center, the ILDC here in Santa Maria. The ILDC was operating starting in 2019 and I was the first staff attorney that the organization hired in 2020 and since then we have expanded our growth and our reach To serve Santa Barbara County and the tri counties.

And the immigrant communities that we represent so we are a very unique organization we provide removal defense before federal judges to prevent deportation mass deportations of Thank you so much. It's an honor to be here with members in our community and as we know, immigrants really make up America and Santa Barbara County in our community. So we're really here to honor and represent our communities, especially now given the national and even local election results. We are more committed to preserving our communities into advocating and on behalf of our executive director Julissa Pena

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8244:40

Thank you. I think we have people on Zoom, yeah. Do we have Zoom? I saw that there was...

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role44:47

Yes, Chair Lavagnino and members of the Board, we have Leslie Marin-Juarez from the Santa Barbara City College Dream Center on Zoom.

CommentLeslie MarinProposedself-stated44:55

Good morning, Chair and members of the Board. My name is Leslie Marin. I am the Dream Center student program advisor who has the privilege of serving our undocumented and mixed status students Here at Santa Barbara City College, I'd like to take this time to express my deepest gratitude to Supervisor Capps and Supervisor Hartman for co-sponsoring this resolution. This resolution is a beacon of light in challenging times and it reminds us that when we stand together, we can foster a culture that not only uplifts but respects everyone. Thank you all so much.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8245:28

Thank you. Supervisor Capps?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed45:30

Thank you, Chair Lavagnino and to our advocates in our community and to Supervisor Hartman for co-sponsoring this with me. I feel extremely strongly about this resolution. I wrote every word because what we're up against right now is fear. I lived through this as a school board member in 2016 where Immigrants from all different types of statuses stop showing up for health care appointments stopped accessing meals that their children qualified for in schools.

Just again we're gripped by fear by myths by rumors so our task right now we are a nation of immigrants, we are County of immigrants or staff or immigrants are migrants. Our challenge right now I firmly believe is to Communicate the accurate information about what rights exists, what programs exist regardless of status. To partner with Congressman Carbajal who's working on mental health services to partner with our state representatives we did an information session again I think in our short term right now between now and January 20th that explaining rights making sure everybody has information to the right stakeholders Thank you for the opportunity to bring this forward and to the groups that are doing this work every day we heard from 2 of them our schools.

Our safe havens, our hospitals are safe havens. Our churches places of worship are safe havens people need to understand what is exactly the situation here as we face very uncertain times so I appreciate it thank you.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8247:26

Thank you very much. Okay that closes out our resolutions will now take up the administrative items pulled in numerical order Madam Clerk can you please read administrative item number 17 into the record? I believe so. What was 17 dust did you just pulled 70.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role47:59

Chair Levin you know members of the board administrative item number 17 is from the community services department it is to consider recommendations regarding a 5 month performance update concerning the California encampment resolution funding round 3 surf 3 strategy.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role48:16

Supervisor Williams. Well I pulled this because of the recent debate over parking regulations because I think that one of the most important thing to resolve folks to house and resolve situations where people are living in their vehicle residential neighborhoods is to empower and make sure this program is working to the maximal I do think it's important for us to try to get our grips around what it what may be holding us back.

In particular, there is some jurisdictions that have individuals that need to be placed in the program but don't, but have a lack of sites. And then maybe what in general in the model is holding us back? Is there any changes to the model that staff foresee could open up new spots and new opportunities?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed49:37

Supervisor Williams through the chair has his arm is community services director and Joe does Vonnick who's our deputy director. A couple of observations first we want to acknowledge the good work the new beginnings is doing it's remarkable that some 20 year anniversary is showing some results. We indicated in the report We're fortunate enough to be very competitive and successful in gaining a grant from the state that is providing the resources that allows us to support this kind of assistance. What's critical here, I think, is to demonstrate that the only way we can really have any success with assisting folks that may be living in their vehicles is to provide a location where they can park, where they can be in a safe environment. New Beginnings does that The challenge, however, is finding a location and finding compliance with local regulations.

There are some communities that discourage this kind of use and there are some that are more forthcoming. As noted in the report we have enrollment across the county where sites have been identified New Beginnings is fortunate in being able to convince property owners to make their parking areas available. However, it is a challenge because there are no funds associated with that the landlord the property owner is effectively agreeing to provide that space at no charge and that's a hill to climb that can be difficult in particular locations So we think we need to continue to work with our neighboring jurisdictions to see if there's a mechanism that we can all countywide can endorse that allows this kind of use to take place.

Let me invite Mr. Desvonick to speak more specifically about what we're finding out in the field, if you will.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed51:40

Yeah, not too much more to add to that. I mean having more safe parking locations and you know available to us in maybe some of the cities would certainly be helpful again we can design the strategy to move forward with or without that because we were never guaranteed that we would get safe parking in certain locations I mean the results you know just from June now where we have 40 people already entering housing and I think it's a really good start as we're just ramping up the hiring and training of folks inside of New Beginnings contract. So in fact, I have Cassie Roach. I think she's on the line. She is the Deputy Director for New Beginnings if she wanted to make some comments I would ask her if she wouldn't mind I don't want to hold us up too much.

Do we have her?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role52:37

We do, we just unmuted her and I believe she will be with us momentarily.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed52:41

Oh okay so... Yes,

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role52:43

I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed52:44

am. Okay.

CommentCassie RoachProposedself-stated52:46

Thank you very much. Yeah, I'm Cassie Roach. I'm the Safe Parking Program Director and oversee the SURF program And so just a few updated numbers since we've had a little bit of time, since we provided that data. We've now enrolled 173 individuals and have actually housed 48. So we are seeing great movement all things considered with our housing market and I think one of the biggest barriers and greatest achievements of the SURF program is the funding in that we're able to provide pretty significant vehicle repairs that have kept these vehicles Essentially stuck on our city streets.

So the program has been able to get the necessary funding to get the vehicles moving, get them registered, get them insured and enrolled in safe parking so that we're able to move them from the streets into a safe space to be at night and ultimately getting folks back into permanent housing.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role53:52

Well I just wanted to Thank you Cassie. I just, first of all I want to thank New Beginnings and our own staff for really stellar success in this program. The percentage that have gone on to permanent housing is high. The percentage that has gone on to temporary shelter is decent. You know the potential for I think. More needs to be And so I would just argue that now would be a moment.

We have totally not explored the potential of including some form of compensation for renting a parking lot. These are all donated sites and because they're overnight in potentially a site that The other is a maybe more of We have a staff who has gone You know difficult process to get to success recently. I think this is the next step and you know, so I pulled this because the sooner we get on this the better its winter it's cold. It's a the right time to do it it's not good for us to wait for another couple months.

Supervisor Hartman

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.9456:28

Well, first I had a comment and that was this is a model program that was it's not only 20 years old but it was developed here in Santa Barbara County and has become a national model. And I think former supervisor Susan Rose was a key early proponent and just wanted to call that out and thank New Beginnings. My second comment is really a question where do the current New beginnings parking lots exist on public land faith communities, I mean do we know what. Where is the lowest hanging fruit in cities where we don't have enough is it is it going to government are going to County parking lots is it going to churches that I know that's a little more difficult at where are they located where we having the most success.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed57:21

Supervisor Hartman through the chair. Go ahead, Cassie. That was go

CommentCassie RoachProposedself-stated57:25

ahead. Okay my apologies yes thank you for that question supervisor Hartman about 50 to 60 percent of our lots are faith-based and the remainder are government owned mostly we have a handful just a couple business or nonprofits but the majority are faith based and then oftentimes the first lot in a new location is easiest through government partnership. And that's where we can kind of expand into the faith-based

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.9457:57

community. Yeah, that's really helpful. I know that the elected leaders forum did focus on this and had model ordinances that they provided to the cities and the cities did in fact adopt them although not necessarily exactly as we had hoped But I agree that if we can take the next step and try to more aggressively target where we need them, and go out and solicit. And perhaps if we did have a source of compensation to offer that would be a good thing. So I'd like to go along with Supervisor Williams and direct staff to explore that. And I think each of us in the communities we represent should help reach out because it's not an easy thing to do

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.8258:48

Supervisor Nelson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed58:49

Yes, thank you Chair Labadino and I noticed as well that Santa Maria was the only city without a safe parking lots on there and I think that needs to be part of the conversation with the cities that we're having on various other issues but I think the reason why Hope Village worked for Supervisor Labadino and I is because we also could make the promise that we were going to do something else to minimize the impacts And so, you know I was a little discouraged after our last meeting where we talked about it and we were resistant on ending parking in neighborhoods and whatnot.

But if we could partner those things together, I think that that's something that we can sell to the public. This moving forward and I know we're not quite agendized for this but I'm, I just want to make sure everybody understands those are the two pieces that have to come together to be able to get that through politically as in the city of Santa Maria or up here on the board at least for this supervisor.

But I do think we could eventually land that if we continue to work on it. I do see on the agenda we have coming back in January the encampment strategy piece. I think that's the 14th of January. I wonder if we could add that to this, that conversation to continue this along. But I will I hope that Assistant CEO Horton and can continue the conversations with the City of Santa Maria as this being one of the topics that we're working on with other regional issues that we're trying to resolve with them.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:00:16

I totally agree. Okay supervisor Williams. Yeah, I just argue that work done by staff before that so that we may have parking lots available might change that conversation and make it more cooperative and less I just want to say that we are in the middle of a. You know you this perspective that there's 2 parts of this, you know I totally get that. Now I think that we may disagree on how much emphasis to have on each part but I you know there is no question that some situations are too problematic to let stand right.

But if we don't have places for people to go It's it's just shuffling people around and so I would just argue that while we still have resources that we can tap into it is even more important to move sooner. And of course the season is upon us which is another reason I did not come up with the idea, but I was in the room with the people working on this idea when it was first started.

It was a group of do-getters that included one county employee but was mostly nonprofit folks and New Beginnings Gary said hey well we'll take it on right you know It was originally envisioned to be mostly commercial sites that did not. For a variety of reasons it's it's born may mainly by government sites. In an age where less commercial space more commercial spaces, they can't it may be the right moment to try again and And now and that and there is of course urgency so I just ask that we would direct staff to to move on one or both of these paths.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.821:02:41

Today. Guys have enough direction that you feel comfortable coming back in January with some hard and fast ideas

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:02:53

hard and fast as a challenge, but we do think we can bring forward some recommendations for you to consider

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.821:02:59

very good. Thank you. All right, thank you very much. That takes us to 831 Madam Clerk.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:03:14

Chair Lavinino, members of the board. Administrative item number 31 is from the Information Technology Department it is to consider recommendations regarding a countywide licensing service agreement with SHI International Corp for Microsoft products and services agreement MPSA and server cloud enrollment SCE licensing

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.821:03:35

Supervisor Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.941:03:36

Thank you, I brought this up because I just wanted to point out it's a success story we had IT services and licensing agreements that were really devolved to different departments and we were paying a lot more money as result and so now we have our IT department and under Mr. Chirkwin's leadership we now see this a countywide agreement However, I did notice that A56 is the sheriff's and he has his own licensing.

And I gather that that is common for sheriffs throughout the state but I do hope we'll do our best to get as much integration as we can. I understand Mr. Cherguin actually when he heard this was going to be pulled is on the line so Mr. Cherguin do you have more you'd like to add?

GuestChris Cherguin CIOSheriffProposedself-stated1:04:29

Yes, good morning Supervisor Hartman through the chair. I'm Chris Cherguin CIO and Department Director for ITD. Microsoft licensing is separated by the organization's domain names so Santa Barbara Sheriff has their own domain name which is sbsheriff.org which is separate from all other departments of the county whose domain is countyofSB.org and as you mentioned The Sheriff's Department at several other California counties have their own domain, so we are not unique in that respect.

The county for the past several years has been utilizing the County of Riverside contract vehicle because they have obtained the lowest pricing for public sector licensing with Microsoft and both sheriff and ITD which represents all other departments were utilizing that same contract vehicle However, Microsoft has allowed a handful of resellers, different resellers to you know we could obtain licensing through those different resellers. And so ITD chose a company called SHI. Sheriff chose Dell.

Sheriff has used Dell in the past when we did the research on the different pricing and we found that really the pricing is extremely close no matter which reseller that were going with. I think to answer your specific question though about the, you know that sheriff has their own domain and the county as the other domain is, you know, there are some technical advantages if we all were under one domain. However, I do understand why Sheriff departments do like to do things separate. And that largely is due to, they do have strict criminal justice compliancy requirements. And so they like to have the control that aligns with those requirements and so that's really the primary reason why there has been a separation.

It is something that we will continue to talk with Sheriff about and look at the pros and cons down the road. We're definitely aware of it but I just wanted to address why it is the way it is. Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:06:36

you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.821:06:37

Supervisor Capps?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:06:38

Thank you. Yeah, just since this was pulled I did have a curiosity question just given the price tag. I know Microsoft has most government contracts. Do they have a government rate? Is this is this a government rate or...

GuestChris Cherguin CIOSheriffProposedself-stated1:06:51

Yes. This is this is a government rate yeah.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:06:55

Thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.821:06:56

So how much higher is it than the normal rate? Thank you very much Chris appreciate it. You're OK that takes us to a 58.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:07:13

Chair Lavagnino, members of the board. Administrative item number 58 is sponsored by Supervisor Williams and Supervisor Hartman. It is to consider recommendations regarding a verbal report out from the farmworker conditions in Santa Barbara County Temporary Ad Hoc Advisory Committee and we have 24 requests to speak from the public on this item.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.821:07:31

Okay, we're going to hear the verbal reports first. I want to go ahead and close public comment at this time so that whoever's on that list of 24 will be heard and everybody will get two minutes to speak. So it'll be almost an hour of public comment. So Supervisor Hartman, go ahead.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.941:07:46

Okay, on Tuesday November 12th Supervisor Williams and I as the board's appointed ad hoc committee participated in a forum on farm worker conditions in our county. We had three broad topics addressed by distinguished and representative set of speakers. First was an introduction that looked at the history of agricultural labor in the United States and Santa Barbara County It's not a pretty history where ag work has been left out of many of the successes and protections earned by other worker groups. The introduction also offered a snapshot of agricultural production in our county.

Next we focused on Ag Worker Compensation and the County's Agricultural Economy, and finally were heard about a range of issues affecting farm workers including health and safety housing and opportunities for upward mobility. We're very appreciative to the distinguished panelists from universities Merced and UCSB, from the Strawberry Commission, from CAWS and MICOP, and from the grower community as well as our County Ag Commissioner and our Program Manager for the County Workforce Development Board. It was a packed room with many people outside and after the panels we heard about three-and-a-half hours of very powerful and heartfelt testimony.

It was important to me that we hold such a forum, farm workers do not have an official voice in county government they don't for example participate on the Ag Advisory Committee there's really no institutionalized way for them to weigh in and make their voices heard this forum allowed that to happen It also allowed the growers to share their challenges. Our ad hoc committee and the public learn more about issues facing those working in our county's largest economic sector that also provides many associated benefits defining the rural character of our county.

We heard heart-rending testimony about how the economy with high inflation, even faster rising housing costs and the overall high cost of living along the Central Coast affects the people at the lowest economic rung of the latter. Many made arduous journeys to get here. They live in our community, many for decades. They grow and harvest our food contributing to the hugely significant sector in our county's economy.

They pay taxes, their children attend public schools and they truly struggle for their families to survive on such low wages. The minimum wages that most field workers earn simply don't cover the cost of rent, groceries, gas and insurance much less child care. Many live in extremely crowded housing conditions often with three and four different families in a small home or apartment. A recipe for tension and trouble There isn't money for extras for their children.

The work they perform is backbreaking and to do it well requires a great deal of skill, a good eye, a deft hand and enormous physical stamina to work long days stooped over many in rain mud and heat the work can be intermittent with incomes uncertain Some describe facing wage theft, risk of injury from heavy equipment, exposure to chemicals and are worried about retaliation for reporting on such issues.

They're desperate for respect as essential workers and for relief from the severe pressure they are experiencing in the current economy. I and many people who have reached out to me are deeply affected by that plight. As a decision maker, I have to look at their struggle and figure out what are the best tools available at this moment to a County Board of Supervisors to respond to this need these very real pleas for help.

We also heard from growers in the industry they have to be insightful and innovative businesspeople for their operations to survive Most in Santa Barbara County are relatively small acreage compared to farms elsewhere. And we have a large percentage of really small farms, five acres say, farmed by Latinos who themselves were once farm workers especially in the strawberry fields our county's most valuable crop.

A large percentage do not, a large percentage of growers do not own but instead lease the land they farm. This allows them greater flexibility in what they grow so that they can respond nimbly to market changes. They too face high costs of farming on the Central Coast and have been hit by inflation and escalating prices for the cost of production, rent equipment plants inputs and labor which can be 50% of the costs of production.

The state minimum wage has been gradually rising since 2017 and will go up another 50 cents in January. A 40 hour work week requiring one-and-a-half times regular pay went into effect in January 2022. This affects growers. Acreage devoted to grapes has been declining in the county, and the strawberry market is highly stressed right now. A key point that food crop growers is that food crop growers function in a national and international market where they don't set the prices. They can't just pass cost increases on to consumers the way that fast food and hotel industries can, that operate in more local markets.

They get what distributors like Driscoll's say they will pay and if the prices aren't good enough, they have to go to a different crop when they plant or they won't pick. They let things just stay in the field and plow it under. The big profits in the industry come higher in the food chain and those in our county are subject to forces largely out of their control If there is a great calamity somewhere, it can drive prices up. But otherwise our producers are in direct competition not only with neighboring counties but with other states like Georgia and other countries like Mexico.

Farm workers and our growers are now also facing huge uncertainties about how massive deportations and aggressive new tariffs may affect them. As a decision maker, I have to look at the hardships endured by agricultural workers and also risks that growers are facing and consider what tools a County Board of Supervisors has to respond. To me the most logical place to start addressing farm worker conditions is housing The conversation around housing has shifted dramatically in our state and county over the last several years. Our board actually did streamline our ag worker housing requirements somewhat, but we've lost rather than gained housing in the last five years since we changed our ordinance.

At CSAC, Supervisor Williams and I connected with a Ventura County supervisor where they are constructing several large new farmworker housing projects. But let me be clear here any housing in Santa Barbara County that I would actively promote is for farmworkers who live here and their families not dormitory housing for H-2A workers Our Ventura County counterparts have invited us to tour these projects along with our P&D Director and Ag Commissioner, to learn more about how they have been successful where we have not. I will be eager to find out more about easing permitting requirements and will be proposing that this go to the top of our long-range work plan for the coming year I'm also interested in working with Allan Hancock College to see if we might create a program like Ventura's Community Colleges that offers the certification for field workers who would like to become field supervisors.

And, I've spoken with our Ag Commissioner about his partnership with MICOP in training field workers for licenses to apply chemicals and am eager to support his efforts to have that program offered in Spanish. I'm also very proud of the county's Farmworker Resource Center and the recent grants we have obtained. That is a key place to start to address issues of concern to farmworkers.

I realize these are small steps, but they are important ones. In this process, I've learned that our agricultural industry is facing major shifts whose consequences no one can fully predict Technology is eroding California's competitive climate advantages that allowed growers to absorb the high costs of production here. New seed types allow crops that are known to be known that allow crops to be grown now in other climates. Strawberries and grapes grow in places previously unimagined, blueberries come from Chile and Peru, salad bowl crops are increasingly from Mexico and the list goes on.

What seems clear is that labor, which has been in short supply, is likely to become even harder to obtain. Our resident farm worker population is aging and their children while some may stay in agriculture are not becoming field workers. Harsh new immigration policies could be highly disruptive Making workers more productive through mechanization only goes so far. The skills of good field workers are greatly needed and are going to become more so. We will all need to continue working together to make this job something that can attract the skilled workers that we need

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.821:17:41

Supervisor Williams.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:17:43

Thank you, I won't repeat the eloquent summary provided by supervisor Hartman but I will accentuate the crisis that we are seeing in farmworker communities locally even more acutely than statewide I'm not going to go into the details of that. Both the testimony and the research indicates. You know that a large percentage of farm worker and their families are living 3 or more people to a room. That the rent choose up a majority of 2 income earning families income.

Many units are not equipped with kitchens. We have conditions of poverty in our own communities and And it is likely that things because of the election can get worse for these folks if the federal government changes public health funding ratios that were implemented by Obamacare healthcare reform. We could find it much more difficult, much more expensive to provide the preventative health care that we provide.

Out of fear many of these communities are already visiting preventive healthcare appointments in other counties that have public hospitals We're also going to be looking at ways that we can reduce the number of people in fewer numbers which will also have dramatic consequences for all of us as emergency rooms get filled up and it makes life more dangerous for all Also.

Stress is mirrored perhaps by conditions. One of the things that's interesting to me is, you know I grew up into a divorced family. My biological father he's great guy but he was a DJ and he would spend sometimes years doing farm work in Avocado. There wasn't a whole lot of money on the table, right? Picking avocados. My stepfather was an IBW electrician and you know I think it's interesting to compare this was cited by a couple of the speakers the history of construction in the history of farm work. You know much of it both beginning as unskilled labor Construction is something that everyone in my family, that it was a skilled trade worker wanted for their kids. That even if you started as an unskilled person in construction, you could rise into skilled labor and have a middle-class family and middle class life.

Every farm worker parent Dreams of their children not being farm workers. But anything else and that is in itself, you know a sad statement. We heard testimony that makes it clear. That are our community treasures or agriculture for the food and goods that it produces for the character, it brings to the community to the values of self-sufficiency and sustainability that installs but it hearing left me with a profound worry that we're not in a sustainable path preserve both AG workers Researcher out of UC Merced, Dr. Cosi Leon presented information that indicates that a quarter of farm workers experience retaliation sometimes low-grade retaliation like reduction of hours but retaliation for asking for higher wages or better conditions And that a almost as high percentage, I think 19%, have experienced wage theft at some point in their career.

We also see stress in the industry. We have low... we have a lack of workers We have lower rates of immigration. That provides the majority of those workers and what you know I've come to the conclusion is wages are going to have to rise at some point because you can't get a situation where Not have a higher higher wages to in order for the industry to persevere.

So I mean I think that it said. Obviously there was compelling testimony on both sides because of these stresses but again given that those stresses may get worse we're a little fewer where fewer people are become available to do this kind of work There is going to need to be some kind of adaption. I would put anecdotally in this county it seems that wages and benefits tend to be better, number one when employers piece together year-round work so there's stability It tends to be better.

The higher percentage of direct employment, the less reliance on farm labor contractors that's not because there's not some good farm labor contractors out there but it may be because they're not all awesome and because it's just different The one thing that we was clear is that the county has failed in its aspirations on farmworker housing. We, a number of years ago put forward a package to make it easier to produce farmworker housing in this county That has not resulted in increased production.

Now part of that was because the Coastal Commission pushed back big time and what we strove to do within the coastal zone, but even inland it's been kind of mediocre. Next door we have a jurisdiction that's been successful in producing more farmworker housing. So Joan and I do plan on touring and giving a recommendation for the December 17th hearing of prioritizing farmworker housing on the long-range development work plan And it's not because there aren't great things on there, but this is a crisis for both ag workers and for farmers.

This lack of housing because the driver obviously of this cost of living is housing. Next week we will be looking at the Ag Enterprise Ordinance which we put a ton of staff time in, in order to help preserve agriculture. But one of the ironies of it is that it will make it easier for people from out-of-town to come stay temporarily on an ag site As a tourist.

Then it would be for someone to come temporarily to live and work. That's weird. We we need to prioritize the people who live here and work here. And and in and so supervisor Hartman and I do plan on bringing something for your you to chew on

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.821:27:17

Okay, thank you very much and we appreciate both of you hosting that meeting and listening to all those comments so we're going to get a small taste of that. So we have 24 speakers Madam Clerk let's roll through.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:27:32

Yes Chair Lavinino members of the board we will begin here in Santa Maria with Kevin Merrill to be followed by Christina Schallenberger. Kevin?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:27:46

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm here today representing the Farm Bureau and all of the County Farm Bureau with the State Farm Bureau as well. And I've been a grower here in Santa Barbara County for over 50 years which is a little sobering to say that but I appreciate your comments. The Farm Bureau stands ready to help you with your committee. I think we could expand that And add more growers to it and get a real overall picture of what is really out there because it's a very challenging set of circumstances for not only the folks that we rely on, that work for us, that we respect greatly but also for the farmers that are here.

You made the comment that at some point the wages have to go up you know they don't You can get blueberries from Peru. You can get lettuce from Mexico. You can get stuff from Argentina. We get wine from France and Australia. It doesn't have to come from here, and if we can afford to grow it, it won't. Just like drive up down 101 you see all the grape vines coming out. Those aren't going in anytime soon and those people that were working on those vineyards for us, I have tried to move to other vineyards but I can't move everybody and so the economic reality is I'm not sure where they're gonna go.

You also made a comment that a farm worker doesn't want to have his son or daughter continue on in farming. I'm in the same boat my son just graduated from Fresno State He's the eighth generation Californian. He really wanted to be in production agriculture and I cannot tell him to do that because our industry is at such turmoil and uncertainty right now, that he is right now looking into becoming a ag insurance business Because it's simply stressful. I mean look at my white hair This is 50 years of every time you get to this time a year You wonder if you're gonna be able to pay the bank? You wonder if you'll be keeping people that you treasure that work for you will come back next year

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:29:54

Thank You Kevin, and that's tough

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:29:55

so Our my comment is we'll help you without you want to expand that committee. We're here to help thank you

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:30:02

We will now go to Christina Schallenberger to be followed by Russell Dottie Christina

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:30:09

Good morning and thank you members of the board for allowing me the opportunity to speak this morning. My 20 year old daughter will be graduating from Allan Hancock this month, she currently works full time on the night shift as a caregiver and over the last month has been spit at had urine and feces splattered on her and has been punched in the face by a patient. She does not make anywhere near $26 per hour. I'm not suggesting that her position is better or worse than those of our farm workers, I'm simply highlighting that there are so many good people in our community who work really hard to make a living in a less desirable entry-level position for small businesses.

Fragmenting the minimum wage by industry will not solve the problems our neighbors as a whole are facing such as high housing costs, access to affordable child care and high grocery and utility bills. Alternative solutions to a minimum wage increase could include removing barriers to build additional housing or permit temporary housing once the housing shortage is addressed rents will decrease Explore ideas for a county run child care facility offering affordable childcare or incentives for private childcare businesses to expand.

Develop a recruitment and retention tax incentive plan for seasonal employers who may be able to offer year-round employment if the plan was sustainable I represent growers in the Santa Maria Valley and I'm very worried for their ability to continue operating should this ordinance pass. In the 80s and 90s a grower in Santa Maria was the largest employer in the valley, that's no longer the case.

Their census and acreage has steadily declined in the decades since. Labor cost is their largest annual expense. Over the past two years, they have found leasing 250 acres of organic ground roughly the equivalent of 75 farm worker positions to a fully mechanized grower to be a more sustainable solution for their operations. I'm worried this trend will continue. Please consider the unintended consequences of an ordinance such as this. Thank you again.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:32:16

We will now go to Russell Dottie to be followed by Taylor Jones. Russell?

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CommentRussell DotyProposedself-stated1:32:23

Good morning, I'm Russell Doty. I'm an avocado and lemon grower in Galita. I just want to talk to you the ad hoc committee. I talked to the Board of Supervisors and I think I agree with Supervisor Hartman and Williams housing for us would be the best solution. I think we need to find other ways than just changing the amount of money you make We will now go to Taylor Jones to be followed by Claire Weinman.

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PresenterTaylor Jonesviticulture at Dearburg Vineyards and Starlane VineyardsProposedself-stated1:33:21

Good morning, my name is Taylor Jones. I'm the director of viticulture at Dearburg Vineyards and Starlane Vineyards. I am here talking for Tyler Thomas who is a former AAC committee member and our president and winemaker as well as the Dearburg family. And we support and echo any of the comments from Claire Weinman Our operations have been farming in this county for about 30 years now. We grow wine grapes, both production as well as selling to 20-25 other wineries in the area. We also farm cattle and we lease to berry growers all taking place in Santa Maria, Lompoc, San Ynez areas.

Any minimum wage increase, let alone $26 an hour would force us to severely limit our operations. Cut off supply from the small wineries we sell to and probably eliminate several wine SKUs that will be lower price points in smaller margins. The result of this would be a significant reduction of acreage and our annual workforce will change to repurpose the land to less intensive activities, less labor-intensive activities at least by 50% or more.

According to our research the data suggesting that housing costs are driving the proposed wage increases and that farming entities do not have influence over nor therefore have responsibility for correcting the housing cost crisis And therefore should not be expected to carry an outsized share of responsibility for fixing the problem. We're surprised that farm worker advocates do not place a greater emphasis on this issue as it seems to be a place that we're all kind of united.

That is, we're united to desire to see our county who does have a large influence on the housing policy do much more to alleviate the cost challenges of living and working in this area. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:35:08

We will now go to Claire Wineman to be followed by Mary Jorge. Claire?

PresenterClaire Wineman I'mGrower Shipper Association of Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties we apprProposedself-stated1:35:17

Good morning, my name is Claire Wineman I'm the president of the Grower Shipper Association of Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties we appreciate the opportunity to educate the board and community about local agriculture over the past few months as a subcommittee comes to a close we would like to emphasize the heart of the issue and what's at stake We are asking you to save jobs.

A local minimum wage of $26 per hour would cost over 16,000 jobs. These are jobs of first opportunity. Work in agriculture and local businesses in Santa Maria, Quiama, Lompoc, Carpinteria and others creates community opportunities that would not otherwise exist. The facts and numbers do not support a local minimum wage for agriculture. That is not the reality we are facing.

The economic realities do not support any local minimum wage increase, much less $26 an hour. We recognize and honor all those who contribute to make agriculture work and understand the desire to help but losing businesses and losing jobs isn't going to help. We are asking you to keep agriculture growing in Santa Barbara County. As difficult as it is to grow in California and especially in Santa Barbara County, we don't stand a chance if there's a local minimum wage that further isolates us from our neighbors and competitors.

A number of our members are here today and partners are here today to share how important this is, and to convey how devastating a local minimum wage increase would be. They're prepared to speak or out of respect for your time in recognition of other important items before you today can present abbreviated comments. We urge you to reject the local minimum wage for agriculture so we can move forward productively and together as a community on other important issues. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:37:11

We will now go to Mary Jorge to be followed by Carrie Jordan. Mary?

CommentMary GeorgeProposedself-stated1:37:19

Good morning, my name is Mary George. I'm the daughter of immigrants. My father and my uncles came to the United States in the mid 50s and milked cows for a living. Most immigrants in this country Okay, let me start. What I'd like to make clear is there's not a single group of immigrants who arrive in the U.S., and don't take on the jobs that Americans don't want to do.

Usually it's hard back-breaking work with a low wage. My parents, aunts and uncles all followed that path, and by working hard, saving, achieved their American dream. We didn't go out to eat. We didn't stay in hotels. Our vacations consisted of going to the beach The 14 children born of those immigrant families all have homes now. We've all been educated and I believe that's what most of the field workers hope for their children, and I've seen it accomplished by many.

So I'd just like to say If you're going to go forward with a $26 minimum wage for one class of workers decimating that industry, do it to all employees in Santa Barbara County and see what it does to our economy. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:38:50

We will now go to Kerry Jordan to be followed by John Jackson. Kerry?

CommentCarrie JordanProposedself-stated1:39:06

Thank you for the opportunity to speak. My name is Carrie Jordan, I am the HR Director at Babe Farms here in Santa Maria. It is a family-owned business they've been around for close to 40 years. I've been there 30 plus years and we have approximately 250 year round employees many of whom have been with us 20 plus years If the county were to adopt this minimum wage, we would not be able to afford our payroll and we probably wouldn't stay in business.

So I urge you not to vote this through and I just want to emphasize that I support and echo the comments of Claire Weinman and in honor of keeping time minimum, I thank you for your time. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:40:00

We will now go to John Jackson to be followed by Ryan Reed. John?

CommentJohn JacksonProposedself-stated1:40:07

Good morning, thank you for hearing my comments today. My name is John Jackson. I actually manage several businesses here in the county, one of them is a sales company for many of the farmers here. I also run a cooler that's in Santa Barbara County. We also run an equipment leasing business that's here in the county. I will tell you without farm workers we wouldn't have businesses they are important there's no doubt about it.

I will also say that if you go forward with increasing minimum wage at all, you're going to have a severe negative impact on our business. We don't directly farm but our businesses will be hurt. You want businesses for people that are second and third generation people? I run those businesses today and without farm workers, I don't have workers. I don' t have my next generation of workers either so Encourage you guys to not go forward what I believe is a tax on the ag industry in Santa Barbara County. It's not fair.

I also would like to echo what Claire said, I agree with everything that she said. Thank you very much

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:41:18

We will now go to Ryan Reed to be followed by Tyler Akita, Ryan?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:41:24

Thank you. Good morning, Chair and Board. Ryan Reed with Better Avia Farms here. I think others here have already echoed or all echo what others have said regarding the minimum wage concept and the concerns that we would have on the devastating impact that that would have on the economy, on jobs, and on our businesses. I want to echo that and also say, I think we heard a ton of extremely valid points a couple weeks ago at the hearing. I spent several hours there as you all did in listening to all those comments. I think we have a responsibility. I think the board has a responsibility to really put some work into those issues. We talked a lot about housing. Those are the issues that you identified. Childcare is another one. I am the son of a mom who had a preschool in our house, so I grew up with about 15-20 kids at my house all the time, so i know the importance of that.

You know we grow good healthy food in Santa Barbara County. I think we can improve our access for all of our individuals living here to that good and healthy food We will now go to Tyler Akita, followed by Mark Martinez.

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CommentTyler UkedaProposedself-stated1:42:48

Good morning and thank you for your time today. My name is Tyler Ukeda, I'm a fourth generation farmer grower and shipper in both Santa Maria and San Luis Obispo counties. You know my story's quite interesting the fact that being of Japanese descent my grandparents were actually interned during World War II came back we're actually able to take back over their farm Since then, I can proudly say that we still very much employ some of the people that they got to work with.

As you expressed earlier, there's a desire to not have father and son be involved in agriculture. I actually take great pride in the fact that we employ many of those teams. On the basis that I believe we've been a good enough employer, been able to stay above minimum wage and truly provide a good way of life and good living. Enough so that there's aspiration for generations to continue in agriculture.

I do believe though that what's being tentatively proposed on a minimum wage basis will have some significant economic impacts and lead to significant job loss. With us being split in both counties, it creates great consideration and most likely changes the profitability of our southernmost operations. From a very real sense would likely have us possibly pull out of Santa Maria Valley and solely isolate our efforts in the north.

So I plead for additional consideration. I believe that everything being pitched on a proposal of housing as a solution is a great step in the right direction but with that I secede my time.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:44:22

We will now go to mark Martinez to be followed by Philip Adam Mark.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:44:29

Good morning. Chair Lavagnino, members of the board. Thank you so much for the summary. It was very eloquently presented, Supervisor Hartman. We're in complete agreement with Claire's comments and the views of Grower Shipper. One thing I would like to add to the record is that $26 an hour actually means approximately 34 to 38 for an employer when you factor all the additional costs, which would make any increase completely unsustainable. So thank you very much for today's summary of the issue.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:45:18

We will now go to Philip Adam to be followed by Christina Cosio. Philip?

CommentPhilip Adam I'mProposedself-stated1:45:25

Hi, good morning team. I just want to start by thanking you all for looking into the farm worker conditions in the county it shows your commitment to our industry which i think is the backbone of the local economy and I just want to thank you all for that my name is Philip Adam I'm a sixth generation grower in this valley I'm also a licensed farm labor contractor and I know agriculture is a people business it always has been it always will be the farms that manage people well survive and those that don't don't bottom line To that end, I want to thank the county for their continued support of the Farmworker Resources Center.

It's proving to be a group for no-nonsense and innovative solutions in a very complex and challenging environment that we all operate in. As employers, we think we have the best workers in the world. And it is our highest priority to listen to them and pay them the best wages and provide the best benefits that we can possibly afford. And we are already doing that.

A minimum wage increase will hurt those we all seek to help. That's all I'm going to say about minimum wage. We've heard enough. On the topic of housing, it's not just farm worker housing. It's everyone housing. I think everyone understands that. And I think we really, as we go forward, we need to empathize with those that are going to have to make the investments to solve the supply issue we have with housing in this county. We have to do what we can to make housing and development a profitable venture or else we will fail.

So I wanted to say thank you and let's all work together for innovative solutions rather than distracting from the real work at hand. Thanks.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:46:56

We will now go to Tyler Grassini to be followed by Luis Gonzalez. Tyler?

CommentTyler GarciniProposedself-stated1:47:11

Good morning, my name is Tyler Garcini. I'm with Campbell Ranches in Lompoc. My family's been operating in Lompoc since the 1920s. Started off with a dairy and farm support crops to feed the dairy cows and then it's evolved to what it is now. We grow a variety of fresh vegetables, dried beans, seed crops, and raise beef cattle as well. I'll start by saying, I stand behind everything that Claire Weinman said earlier. And along with that so many family farms like ours are kind of constantly you know struggling to stay afloat you know especially in a state like California it's very expensive lot of regulation And then if so, if I mean if the minimum wage like this were to happen where we're trying to compete you know is $10 or close to $10 more an hour than the rest of the state.

I mean there's just it's unrealistic there's no way that you know that works out especially I mean produce markets are volatile and just not going to work. And then realistically, I think it's going to lead to a lot of farms in this area just closing their doors or definitely backing away down as far as acres and number of employees. And ultimately the people that, you know, the proponents of this wage increase are wanting to help are going to just lose their jobs. So that's all I have to say. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:48:52

We will now go to Christina Cascio to be followed by Luis Gonzalez. Christina?

CommentChristina CosioProposedself-stated1:49:02

Good morning. Thank you, Board of Supervisors. My name is Christina Cosio. I am a farm labor contractor for Santa Barbara County for about 20 years now. We hire about 400-plus farm workers each year. I am here to support local farmers. Farming is expensive. As a farm labor contractor we pass on the expenses to the farmers. Aside from labor and work comp, in the last five to seven years we have had to pass on added expenses like rest and recovery, overtime after 40 hours, health insurance and sick pay.

If we were to increase the minimum wage to $26 our work comp would increase substantially The higher the wages, the higher the work comp. When the overtime after 40 hours came into effect many farm workers lost wages instead of working 55 to 60 hours they are now working maybe 40 hours a week because the employers cannot afford the overtime Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the board.

The minimum wage is $320 a week extra. In conclusion, farm workers are important part of our operation. We truly appreciate them but so are the farmers we urge you to reject this idea and protect the agricultural sector and I support Claire Wyman's comments thank you for your time.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:51:02

We will now go to Luis Gonzalez to be followed by Fernando Martinez. Luis?

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CommentSelena RamirezProposed · by introduction1:51:10

I'll be providing interpretation

CommentClaire WeinmanProposed · by introduction1:51:15

Good morning each and one of you. I'm here to ask all of you to think of all of us and consider us as farm workers I'm one of the farm workers who's worked in grapes, strawberries and broccoli.

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CommentSelena RamirezProposed · by introduction1:52:08

It's difficult being a farm worker as we know, in heat and cold and extreme weather. Sometimes we don't eat.

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CommentClaire WeinmanProposed · by introduction1:52:32

And

CommentSelena RamirezProposed · by introduction1:52:33

it's difficult because what we're paid a minimum isn't enough to pay for rents, for food, for bills.

CommentClaire WeinmanProposed · by introduction1:52:43

And I say that because I have 18 years working here in what is Santa Maria working.

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CommentSelena RamirezProposed · by introduction1:53:04

And that's why I believe that farm workers deserve a minimum wage, a livable wage. And I say that because again, thinking about our families. I work to sustain my family and I don't work enough to be able to pay for rents for food it just it's not enough.

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CommentClaire WeinmanProposed · by introduction1:53:40

And I give thanks all of you again for being here for allowing me to be able to speak with all of you And so again, I ask you please take us into account. I ask you to consider that think about these things because as I heard earlier what you were saying Like we heard from some of the men earlier, raising the wage to 26 wouldn't be profitable for them. But again, we struggled to be able to harvest for them, to make that for them All of you here in your seats today needed the votes from the people to be in the place that you are.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.821:55:18

Just

CommentClaire WeinmanProposed · by introduction1:55:18

like

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you

CommentClaire WeinmanProposed · by introduction1:55:19

needed those votes, these growers need the support of farm workers to be able to get that work done. Without farm workers again, you don't have a business. Thank you. We will now go to Fernando Martinez to be followed by Selena Ramirez.

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CommentFernando MartinezProposedself-stated1:56:07

Thank you. Good morning members of the board, thank you for your attention today and first of all I want to thank Supervisor Daz Williams and Joan Hartman for holding the hearing for farm workers as Joan Hartmann said the voices of farm workers are often not heard in a table and today And on the previous hearing, you heard a lot from farmworkers. My name is Fernando Martinez. I'm a community organizer with MECOP here in Santa Maria.

I want to take a moment to acknowledge that we must taking consideration as we move forward that a lot of families will continue to struggle without adequate wages. Also want to take a moment I'm going to be talking about the racial equity study done by the fund for Santa Barbara. This shed some light on the pressing racial disparities present in our present in our county and one of the key findings of the study and recommendation I want to thank all the groups in our county, especially the indigenous migrant community who I personally come from and I'm part of the indigenous community.

In the hearing we heard from farm workers that they are the backbone of our county and like the worker said without the workers there's no work so that's something that I would like for us to consider as we move forward. I know it was mentioned like you know housing But families are struggling with wages and even yesterday I got a lot, I got a group of eight workers who were working out of a vineyard from Los Alamos who were working the night shift and we're not paid for two weeks. And that's something that I see every now and then workers coming to us and letting them know that you know they're not getting paid properly We will now go to Selena Ramirez to be followed by Ronaldo Moreno. Selena?

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CommentSelena RamirezProposed · by introduction1:58:31

Good morning. My name is Selena and I'm here representing all the workers, all the farmworkers who were not able to attend today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:58:38

Today I want to say that I am very disappointed with the decision taken regarding an ordinance for a living wage. A living wage that we came to ask, it gives me a lot of sadness knowing that even though almost 400 workers were in attendance.

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CommentSelena RamirezProposed · by introduction1:59:24

We came to ask for a livable wage, a change in our living conditions. You have the power to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed1:59:32

change our strenuous working and living conditions.

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CommentSelena RamirezProposed · by introduction1:59:54

You denied us that opportunity. Keep in mind all the families that even though with the holidays coming up will not have the ability to have a dignified luxury meal with their families, to share.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:00:10

Nosotros no contamos con el privilegio ni siquiera de darles un regalito a nuestros hijos en esta Navidad así como lo van hacer ustedes

CommentSelena RamirezProposed · by introduction2:00:20

We don't count with the privilege to even be able to give our children gifts, a privilege that all of you will have.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:00:28

Gracias por la oportunidad de estar acá.

CommentSelena RamirezProposed · by introduction2:00:30

Thank you for your time.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:00:32

We will now go to Ronaldo Marino to be followed by Erika Diaz-Cervantes. Ronaldo?

CommentFernando MartinezProposedself-stated2:00:41

And I'll do the interpretation for Ronaldo.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:00:44

Good morning members of the board. My name is Reinaldo, I'm a community member and I want to thank you guys for allowing me to do public comment today.

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CommentFernando MartinezProposedself-stated2:01:15

Thank you to County Board of Supervisors Daz Williams and Joan Hartman for allowing us to do public comment during the hearing last month. The core issue facing farm workers in our county is not solely housing but inadequate wages. Without a living wage, farm workers cannot afford essential needs like housing, food, transportation and child care. While the focus on housing is much appreciated, it is a long-term solution that will benefit only small fractions of over 30,000 farmworkers in our county.

Like it was mentioned, the focus is on housing. It is a long term solution that only will support a small group of farm workers but not the total amount of farm workers in our county. If a housing ordinance for farm workers is proposed, it would only address the symptom but not the root cause. Without fair wages and farmer girls will remain trapped in a cycle of poverty.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:03:04

Without a fair salary, we workers will continue trapped in the cycle of poverty. With many Calico workers who spoke in the audience also expressed our feelings about what we do daily

CommentFernando MartinezProposedself-stated2:03:18

As you have heard from the hearing, many farm workers spoke with a powerful message articulating that the real solution for farm workers is the increase of wages. And the housing issue or the housing solution would only bring a cycle of poverty.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:03:37

I urge the board to listen to the voices of farm workers and many others. Tackle the underlying issue they face, and demonstrate true leadership by prioritizing living wage ordinance. Farm workers deserve nothing less. Thank you Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:04:10

We will now go to Erica Diaz Cervantes to be followed by Daniel Seguro. Erica?

CommentChristina SchallenbergerProposed · by introduction2:04:16

Members of the board, while I'm appreciative of the hearing you held on November 12th, I stand before you today with disappointment and frustration Though the proposed housing plan is a step in the right direction, I must respectfully say that it is a much smaller and slower step towards justice than I know you have the power to take. As elected representatives, you hold the authority to make a real lasting difference and farmworkers deserve more than incremental progress.

This moment called for a courageous long-term solution One that would address the root causes of inequity and offer lasting relief to our farm workers. I am saddened to hear that you chose not to bravely stand behind the voices of countless farm workers that you saw and heard on November 12th. Farm workers have been marching, striking, and fighting for better wages for years.

They have been demanding fairness, respect and dignity. As elected representatives you have a moral obligation to protect and uplift our community's most vulnerable members. That means standing up for farm workers who are often overlooked underpaid and overworked. You are the leaders we have chosen to trust it is time to actually listen to the workers who have been speaking out year after year asking for their voices to be heard The strikes, the marches, the countless hours of struggle that will not go in vain.

The people have spoken and they are demanding action. This is not just about a policy decision it's about the future of thousands of families in Santa Barbara County. It's about whether or not you will take responsibility for the lives of those who have ensured that you all had food on your Thanksgiving tables yet they struggled to ensure the same for their own families The farm workers deserve more than sympathy. They deserve real lasting change.

Workers have and will continue to fight, to march, to demand what they deserve. It's time for you to do the same. The community will not forget who stood up and who stood by. Thank you. Now is a moment for true leadership to emerge. It is time to listen to the people. It is time for a living wage for farm workers.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:06:35

We will now go to Daniel Seguro, to be followed by Andy Rice. Daniel?

CommentSelena RamirezProposed · by introduction2:06:40

Good morning Board of Supervisors! First I want to thank you for dedicating the time to explore farm worker conditions particularly through the recent hearing attended by 200 plus farm workers and a total of nearly 400 plus community members. The message was overwhelmingly clear that day what farm workers need is a living wage While industry leaders continue to cry wolf about this will hurt them just like they did with overtime. It is an indisputable fact that the agricultural industry is facing a labor shortage, that will only worsen in the near future and there is a straightforward solution that we've discussed raise the wages make these jobs sustainable make these jobs attractive attract talented farm workers to our region. On average, a full-time year round farm worker in Santa Barbara County earns just $36,000 per year which is well below what's needed to make basic living costs.

Housing is just one of those basic needs and a long term solution as we rightfully know I don't understand how you can acknowledge the horrifying living conditions our farmworker families are facing and not take more immediate action to explore the feasibility of increasing wages in sustaining our industry. You plainly heard from a speaker today that many growers echo, they don't believe wages can or should go up at all. No one should have to work 60 hours a minimum to scrape by.

This is a nuanced issue and one that requires time attention and immediate action with humane solutions. I ask, why focus on opposing a living wage for farm workers when two things can be true at once? We need to support our farm workers and our farmers. Particularly our small farmers so they can survive in our county. But you won't have crops to harvest or sell without our farm workers. What's at stake here is more than just dollars and cents. It's people's ability to survive.

We hear that your interest is to start with housing. But Alianza Campesina remains steadfast in its commitment to advocating for fair and just wages for farm workers. We believe systemic change is possible, and we are here to amplify the voices of farm workers who are too often silenced. Do not let the opportunity to lead with justice and integrity slip away. The time for hope has passed. It is now time for solutions. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:08:49

We will now go to Andy Rice to be followed by Alexandra Allen.

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CommentMark MartinezProposed · by introduction2:09:01

All right, good afternoon all. In an effort to avoid redundancy I'll stay relatively brief but I do want to say that I support fully the comments of Claire and the grower-shipper and I only have a few additional comments as was stated by I believe Mr. Jackson and Mr. Adam. The farmworkers are no doubt the lifeblood of our businesses. I don't think anybody in this room would dispute that So ensuring that they flourish in our community over the next several years is a worthwhile cause and I don't think anybody would argue that as well.

However, regulating the minimum wage is not the solution and there's two reasons for that super simple one It's not going to solve the issue at hand. And two, it is not sustainable to the businesses within our county. The loss of small and large farms is not an unfounded threat. It will happen. It has happened in the past from added regulation within California. Businesses have moved out and they will do so again.

Rather than handicapping the local industry, I would ask that we work together to find alternative ways to provide additional resources to our farmworkers. And the good news is there's already pathways to do that. You have the Farmworker Resource Center. You have California Farmworker Foundation. You have other agencies that are able to do this if you provide additional resources to them they can help provide resources to our farm workers.

So in closing, I'll say a decision to regulate will undoubtedly change the landscape of our industry, our local industry. So please work with us to advance not suppress our local ag industry and the future of our county. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:10:52

And we just received word that Alexandra had to leave so we will be going to Thomas Becker on Zoom to be followed by Karen Howenstein in Santa Barbara. Thomas?

CommentRonaldo MorenoProposed · by introduction2:11:06

Hi, thank you. Hey Doss don't go anywhere I have something to say. Can you hear me?

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:11:12

He can hear you in

CommentRonaldo MorenoProposed · by introduction2:11:13

there. Yes we can please proceed. I'm sorry that Doss had to leave the room maybe he'd like to hear some of the comments I have about his activities anyway let me just say something i'm in the industry i'm in the agriculture industry i repair the equipment so i make pretty good money Um, it's not unusual for a mechanic who's working for a farm. The mechanics to be making 50 60 $70 an hour.

It's all going to be automated at some point I guarantee you they're working on automating. The agricultural industry. Right now they can plant, they can weed, they can do all that. The big problem with automation like with strawberries is being able to pick the fruit without bruising it and they're making great strides in five years all of this is going to be computer controlled and automated. It's already moving that way and I know it because I'm in that industry and I see it Now, as far as these farmers that you've had up today. What they do is that they pay their people very poor wages, and then they send the people over to the government to subsidize your housing and their welfare.

That's what the farmers do, and they don't have to do that. But yeah, they're kind of resisting automation which is coming but at some point they will. And it's not just this industry, it's all industries that are going to be automated very quickly in the next 10 years. What are you gonna do with all these people in that room that won't have jobs? You're gonna subsidize their housing and their food and their healthcare when they don''t have jobs? Think about that. And it's too bad that Doss Williams left the room because he's the instigator on a lot of these problems that we had, not only with him being on the board but also with his being in the government.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:13:12

Thank you Thomas, that is your time. We will now go to Santa Barbara for our final speaker, Karen Hauenstein.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:13:20

Mr. Chair I just do want to take a point of personal privilege. Tom has been around long enough that he should know that we have speakers in every one of the rooms. In Santa Barbara, for better or worse, I can't even walk into the bathroom without listening to your voice Tom so I think you should keep that in mind and you've been around long enough to know that we can hear you around.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:13:44

And that takes us to Santa Barbara with Karen Hauenstein. Karen? I'm not

CommentFernando MartinezProposed · by introduction2:13:48

going to pick on you, Doss. Okay so this issue is surrounding sustainable responsible farming. It really is and what happened in a little corner of our community in North County across from 1335 Perissima Road It's something that we cannot let happen again. Regardless of what everybody is being paid to pick the fruit. Our agricultural commissioner allowed unsustainable practices Where the homeowners could not sleep for two years of growing season.

Because of these blow and go cheap mobile bombs that they like to put in the fields, to change the seasons which is not a sustainable practice I don't know if it's because Salud Carbajal likes to call my community the armpit of Santa Barbara County, but we cannot allow things like that to happen again. So don't impact the growers in a way where they're going to be demanding unsustainable practices like growing winter crops, they should be growing winter crops. Thank you.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:15:50

And that is our final speaker on administrative item number 58.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:15:54

Okay. Yeah okay do we want? Okay so I'll take a motion on 1731 and 58

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.942:16:15

I move approval, staff recommendation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:16:21

Second.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:16:22

Okay all those in favor of moving forward with 17 31 and 58 and what's that let me just get clear on what the staff direction is for 58

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.942:16:34

At this point, it was simply a receive and file. It wasn't really an action. We did recommend that we come back and talk more about housing

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:16:47

on the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:16:47

17th.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:16:51

That's going to be two of you bringing back something on the 17th right? That's not staffed.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:16:55

Yes okay got it all right okay all those in favor aye any opposed That takes us now to general public comment. How many speakers do we have lined up for general public comment?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:17:11

Chair Lavagnino and members of the board, we have two requests to speak on general public comment today. We are going to return to Zoom with Thomas Becker and then we will return to Santa Barbara with Karen Hallenstein.

CommentRonaldo MorenoProposed · by introduction2:17:27

Thank you. And Doss, I don't know how you guys run your business there. It's just that it's rude to get up and walk out of the room when you have people that want to speak to you. Why don't you just stay in your seat and act appropriately when people are speaking to you? It's like flipping somebody the bird getting up out of your seat. Anyway, I like to speak about some of the things that are coming up in the next couple weeks.

Specifically the change of administration in Washington. I spoke about this at SBK. The County of Santa Barbara, the state of California and other counties in California Are known to allow people to have access to benefits that they're not entitled to. That would include Section 8 housing, Medicaid, food subsidies, you name it. And all you have to do is find one person in your county operations, whether it's housing or even the cities. Find one person who's accepting or that you've given money to or benefits to that didn't deserve it or were not entitled to it. Just find one.

That's all it takes to authorize the federal government to go in and audit all your books. And see who you've been giving money to, to get their names, their addresses. To get all that information just takes one. Now I know personally that there are people in section eight housing who are not entitled live in that housing and they're getting that your staff knows who these people are and your staff is complicit in making sure that those people are getting benefits if they're not entitled to This is coming, it's coming.

And you people just don't seem to want to accept that fact. You're passing resolutions that you wanna support the community while a lot of those people in the community are taking benefits they're not entitled to. And Doss Williams, you are one of the main instigators on this policy with your work as in the assembly and everywhere else where you've basically Enable people to go and get benefits that they're not entitled to.

You encourage that, and so I think this is all gonna change. I'm glad to see the Doss Williams is gonna be gone coming next year. Maybe the person replacing him will have some more respect for the taxpayers than what Doss did. And Doss, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings but really when you get up and walk out of the room like that With a room full of people that spent hours there and they want to hear you. They want you to hear them don't just sit there. You didn't have to get up, you didn't do it. Just wait till there's a break and then you can do what you have to do.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:20:34

And that is your

CommentRonaldo MorenoProposed · by introduction2:20:34

time.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:20:36

We will now go to Santa Barbara with Karen Howenstein. Karen?

CommentFernando MartinezProposed · by introduction2:20:43

Thank you very much. Thank you supervisors. I'm sorry I'm not in Santa Maria this morning but The theme of a lot of the comments that have been heard today, have to do with instilling fear in the immigrant population. And I want to bring to light the fact that we really need to encourage our immigrant population and our Hispanic population to be active reporters of real crime Because the problem that we're experiencing with increasing crime in our community is because criminals, real criminals. We're talking about seasoned experienced criminals.

There is a certain percentage of them who did come across our border with honest women and children there and honest workers in the last three four years We've increased in our criminal activity. I want us all to remember Marlon Brumfield, my friend and our neighbor who was in the Army and he was taking advantage of the ROTC to go to college. And when he was on leave, he was murdered in Lompoc By a known criminal who had had multiple law enforcement contacts, law enforcement knew he needed to be removed and they could not because of destructive liberal policies that were enacted in our state.

Now it's not our citizens and our residents against immigrants It's all of us against the real criminals. The known, seasoned and repetitive criminals who our law enforcement partners and officers should be able to track all the time in this day and age with electronics We should be able to track known criminals. We should be able to deport them. They should not be able to stay in our communities, to do things like murder my friend Marlon Brumfield who was a wonderful man. He was a long poke success story.

So just remember that when we talk about these issues. Thank you very much. And that concludes

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:23:41

general public comment today.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:23:44

Okay, so we are going to take a 10 minute break and we're back with departmental item number one. Okay, we're going to reconvene just for event agenda management purposes. What we're gonna do is to hear departmental items one and two and then we will break for closed session and come back for the remainder in the balance of the D agenda so let's move into our departmental agenda item number one madam clerk

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:33:52

Chair Lavinino, members of the board. Departmental item number one is from the Probation Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an ordinance amending Chapter 20 Juveniles of the Santa Barbara County Code to repeal Article 3 Sections 20-9 through 20-13 and Article 4 Sections 20-14 through 2016

CommentDeputy Chief Melinda BarreraProposedself-stated2:34:18

Good morning, Chair Lavanino and members of the board. I'm Deputy Chief Melinda Barrera here for the first reading of an ordinance amending Chapter 20 related to Los Prietos Boys Camp and Counseling Education Centers. Originally built in 1934 to accommodate the Los Prietos Civilian Conservation Corps, the site transitioned in 1944 to become Los Prietos Boys Camp.

This camp served as a facility to which juvenile courts of both Santa Barbara and Ventura counties could commit boys who required removal from the community, but whose records were not serious enough to justify commitment to the Department of Juvenile Justice. Although jointly maintained by both counties, Los Pietas Boys Camp operated as a branch of Santa Barbara County which handled the budgeting and employment throughout its history. Los Pietas Boys Camp underwent numerous transformations and had significant milestones.

Our special use permit expires at the end of this year and the removal While preparing for the first hearing, it was discovered that ordinances regarding probation schools were still in existence. These schools were a joint program between Santa Barbara County Office of Education, Behavioral Wellness and Probation serving probation youth in three regional areas of the county. These schools have not been operational since 2010 and thus these ordinances need to be repealed as well.

As this is the first hearing, these are the recommendations. At this time we're available to answer any questions.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:36:20

Questions from the board? All right it's end of an era all right okay so can I get a motion for a vote go ahead oh public comment

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:36:33

yeah. Chair Lavagnino members of the board I just wanted to note for the record we had no request to speak from the public on this item

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:36:39

Okay can I get a motion on a B and C wanted to

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.942:36:43

so moved second

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:36:45

and second it all those in favor. Aye aye any opposed passes now passes unanimously thank you.

CommentMary GeorgeProposedself-stated2:36:52

And

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:36:52

I just don't think you should pass without just us paying tribute to all the good work that's happened there. So

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.942:37:02

if I might add more to come

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:37:04

That's right. Okay that takes us to departmental item number 2.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:37:12

Chair Lavagnino and members of the board, departmental item number two is from the Planning and Development Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding SB 35 coastal zone ordinance CCO amendment and submittal of a local coastal program LCP amendment to the California Coastal Commission CCC.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:37:32

Good morning, members of the board. Today we are presenting an ordinance package that brings our county code in the coastal zone into alignment with state law. I have Alex Tubbo who is unfortunately not feeling well today but he's online if there are questions to come up and Lila Spring who's with our long-range planning division who will be making a presentation today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:37:56

Thank you Lisa Good morning chair love me know and members of the board as Lisa said my name is Lila spring and I'm here to present to you that SB 35 coastal zone amendment. Our presentation today will cover the project background, the new ordinance section policy in ordinance consistency compliance with the California environmental quality act or sequa the next steps in this planning process and staff recommendations Next slide.

So first to provide some background on why we are proposing this amendment, in recent years the state legislature has passed a number of new state housing laws with the goal of increasing the supply of housing particularly affordable housing. SB 35 is one of these laws and requires that qualifying housing development projects be reviewed under streamlined provisions.

Thank you so much for joining us. This new ordinance section called Qualifying Housing Streamline Review applies if the county is making insufficient progress towards meeting housing goals. You have heard these goals referred to in previous presentations as the Regional Housing Needs Allocation or RHNA. Streamline review only applies in certain areas of the coastal zone, excluding areas within 300 feet of beach, mean high tide line or bluff and between the sea and the first public road as well as other excluded areas.

To qualify for streamline review projects must be multi-unit or mixed use and must meet affordability requirements. And since 2018 this requirement has been for 50% affordable units. Qualifying projects are statutorily exempt from CEQA, require ministerial review which in this case would be a coastal development permit or CDP and only objective zoning and design standards apply.

Projects also require consultation with Native American tribes. Since SB 35 went into effect in 2018, the county has only processed a couple SB 35 projects and does not anticipate seeing many in the coastal zone given the limitations on location and the eligibility requirements. The proposed ordinance amendment is consistent with the county's existing policies and ordinances. It implements state law, it allows development consistent with existing land use designations.

Qualifying projects must be consistent with all applicable policies and provisions of the local coastal program or LCP, and the amendment implements programs of the recently adopted housing element. Adoption of this ordinance amendment is exempt from the provisions of the California Environmental Quality Act or CEQA under section 15061B3 for having no possibility of significant effect and section 15265 which exempts local agency activities involving the preparation and adoption of a local coastal program, of which the Coastal Zoning Ordinance is a part.

Staff brought this item to the Montecito Planning Commission on September 18th, 2024 and to the County Planning Commission on September 25th, 2024. And both commissions passed resolutions recommending this item for adoption. The next step in the planning process is to submit the ordinance amendment to the Coastal Commission for review and certification. Staff now recommends...

Thank you. Thank you. Any questions from our board? Supervisor Hartman?

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.942:42:37

Is this an action under our housing element that we needed to follow through?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:42:42

Mr. Chair, Supervisor Hartman I'd have to go back and look at our implementation items. Certainly it's we needed to bring our coastal zoning ordinance into conformance with the state law that was recently passed, but it might have come after we developed those implementation items

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.942:43:05

and then that just raised for me the question how we are tracking all of those and at some point reporting back to the board on our progress. We certainly don't want to be stuck Where we're not meeting our construction requirements and have to go back and look at it you know where are we in the 8 year period on following through on the actions that were committed to so just.

You can comment on it now but I think that's something at least this discussion raised for me.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:43:40

Yes, Supervisor Hartman through the chair so we do have a program in the housing element that says we have to periodically update our codes to be compliant with state law so this falls under that implementation item but yeah no it is we have our annual report That we have to do every year for HCD, which helps us keep track of the units that were producing at the pace that we're producing them and then tells us whether or not we are subject to SB 35 or not.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.942:44:12

And are we also tracking progress for HCD on each of the action items that we have in the housing element?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:44:18

We are tracking progress on that. We have a smart sheet that's all set up for us to track and they are paying attention to what it is that we're doing, so there's quite a bit of work to do I think we had 99 implementation items not all of which fall within P&D's realm but

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.942:44:37

Yeah, and then will you periodically come back to the board not just report to HCD but let us know how we're doing so we're not surprised? We can certainly do that. I think that would be important and then the other question this applies only to residentially zoned areas so the ag areas in Gaviota Coast for example I just want to hear the more of the explanation if you could

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:45:06

expand obviously supportive

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:45:33

Yes, so the requirements for affordability are based on our progress towards meeting our regional housing needs allocation. There's a annual pro rata share that we need to meet and if we don't meet it for certain targets that sets the affordability requirement under SB 35. So it's determined annually kind of where we fall into that Since SB 35 was passed in 2018, we have been in a category where all of the units developed under SB 35 as a whole 50% of them must be affordable and I believe that's affordable to 80% of the median household income of the county or lower.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:46:14

Okay so just to be totally clear, this streamlines projects that have 50% affordable? Correct. Great. You mentioned in the presentation that it doesn't you don't that said not many will qualify for this how what does that mean is it I think that. Miss spring was

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:46:32

pointing out that there are Typically what we've seen is affordable housing providers will take advantage of SB 35, not market rate developers because they typically will make it 100% affordable and then they easily qualify. And then it becomes a ministerial permit is what we've seen.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:47:08

And just to add a little more context there have been two projects that have been processed under SB 35 since 2018 in the inland area. Roughly how many units would that be? Again, I don't

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:47:21

know.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:47:22

I'm not familiar enough with these projects to know.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:47:27

Under a 100 okay, it was the Patterson points project sure presented by Frank Thompson and then Harry's house which is at the Golden in sight OK so it could be anywhere between like 60 to 75 units is what I'm thinking.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:47:43

And I know we're always trying to on top and timing, I know we're always trying to streamline when that when we say streamline what is get a sense of what that means for timing sure shortening

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:47:53

right so. Traditionally these would have been discretionary permits right so that they would have to go to a hearing. So the is it's really It depends also on how quickly the applicants moved to respond to requests for additional information that I'd say it's a matter of months versus maybe. A year 9 months something like that so if we can know if we're all well coordinated and they provide all the information we need could be you know 4 or 5 months.

Thanks for

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:48:25

explanations

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:48:26

supervisor Nelson,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:48:27

yes, thank you at you know just since we're talking about streamlining As we move into that in the future while we try to tackle housing, I think this board needs to connect or add it. Look at ways to making the process post entitlement faster. You know, because I think that that's you know the talent processes sometimes we get blamed for all the time but it you know once these things are approved it does take years for maps to be recorded and for building plans to get approved. I know that you guys have already implemented a lot of process improvements but I think I think that's under And I think at some point we need to have a more significant look at that as well as making sure that all of our different county parties or departments that touch that are truly on the same system, which is continuing one of the big problems with this until everybody's in the same place and those things are being tracked.

On a more regular basis, I think we're going to continue to have issues with streamlining. And that's the stuff that we can take care of in house and that are outside of what happens outside of the county process. So looking forward for us to looking at ways of improving that next year.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:49:42

And just to provide some information to the board based on Supervisor Nelson's comment, we have been making very good progress on the SLO program. We've met with all of the departments. We have memorandums of understanding and service level agreements being developed right now and finalized. I agree with Supervisor Nelson that once we're all in that system it's going to be much easier for us to coordinate and track projects.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:50:16

All right, that's all of our questions. Is there any public comment on this matter?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:50:18

Chair Lavanino members of the board we have no request to speak on this item.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:50:21

Okay I'll entertain a motion for items A through E.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:50:28

So moved.

Roll-call vote Passed Moved by Kapp · Seconded by Williams
Show transcript
Moved by Supervisor Kapp seconded by Supervisor Williams. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously. All right, so we are gonna take item three because I understand it's very quick and we have our staff here. And we are gonna amend some speed limits. So let's talk about item D3.
UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role2:50:53

Chair Lavagnino, members of the board. Departmental item number 3 is from the Public Works Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an ordinance amending speed limits specified in County Code Sections 2315, 2315.2, 2315.3, 2315.4, 23 15.5, 23 15.6, 15.7 and 23 15 point 8 and 2315 point 9 and this is in the 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th districts

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:51:24

Okay,

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:51:24

Mr. Smith

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:51:26

good morning early afternoon chair board members Chris then with public works we also have Mustafa stodgy our transportation deputy here but I'm going to turn it over to Gary smart the county traffic engineer for this presentation.

CommentDaniel SeguroProposed · by introduction2:51:41

Thank you Chris chair board members we're presenting the speed limit changes with this item will be looking at establishing safety corridors and I'll have a 5 mile per hour. We speed reduction on the speed limits for every one of these roadways will be updating speed limits based on engineering traffic surveys removing some speed limits because they now qualify for residential districts under a B 43 and lowering a school zone speed limit The AB 43 was passed by the state a couple years ago, but the safety corridor just went into effect this year. Second half of the year gave us the warrants and considerations for establishing that they can be established on roadway segments where the highest number of serious injuries and fatals are. We continue monitoring these roadways ongoing and can add them later on if there is a problem or you know in every 5 to 7 years we're going to have There's been a reduction in it, then we'll have to look at changing the speed limits back possibly.

Safety corridors also excuse me staff has identified the following roads that have the highest serious injuries and fatalities these are the roadways in the first district if you have any questions on them I can talk to them but I'll just go through the slides one by one These are in the first and second district roadways that will be establishing a safety corridors and lowering speeds by 5 miles per hour.

And these are in the 2nd District. The number of roadways will be lowering 5 miles per hour. Again, in the 2nd District Isla Vista In the 3rd District, Santa Ynez Valley. In the 3rd and 4th District, Lompoc Valley. And in the Orchid Area, 4th District. Jeez. Can't go anywhere. In the Los Olivos area, the school district for Los Olivos Elementary School will be we recommend to lower the speed limit from the current 25 miles per hour and children are present school zone to 15 mile-per-hour schools on with the changes. We've been able to include this reduction for the school zone And on San Marcos Road with the changes to AB 43, it can now be considered a residential road and have the 25 mile per hour speed limit. It was currently 35 miles per hour in the county code and we've already posted at 25 miles per hour but we're cleaning up the county code to remove it from the 35 mile per hour speed zones.

And with the improvements we've done on Modoc Road with the multi-use path, we reevaluated the engineering traffic survey and the new speed came in at 40 miles per hour. 10 mile per hour reduction from before this 40 miles per hour will match the city's limit speed limit to the south also so it'll be a continuous 40 miles per hour up to Viacinda. And then San Miguelito, we're going to be adding to our engineering traffic surveys the county code.

It would come in at 50 miles per hour but with the safety corridor we're lowering it down to 45 miles per hour and here are the recommendations which are available before you in your packets and I'm available for any questions.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:55:50

Okay Supervisor Nelson?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:55:53

Yes, thank you Chair Labadino. Thank you for the work that you guys have done on this and for the explanation on what was selected by Public Works staff as locations. Can you help me with what the criteria that was used over at the Los Libos School? Because school zones are obviously areas of concern But they're not necessarily always, you know where there's been an injury or fatality. So how do we pick and choose which schools that we are lowering the speed limit at?

CommentDaniel SeguroProposed · by introduction2:56:23

The state allows a reduction from the 25 mile per hour standard 15 miles per hour when you have a 25 mile-per-hour adjoining roadway to the school. And with the changes were able to have a 25 mile-per-hour business district in Los Olivos which gave that step and then now we can reduce it down to 50 miles per hour for the school zone. We've done that with all the school zones in the county that have 25 miles per hour approaching the school on the roadways, so this one's just dynamically changed with the laws that were recommending that we do that here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:56:58

Okay, so I got some questions about over reading Los Alamos and how would this potentially impact that why didn't that qualify it's coming off of the state highway. Both centennial I believe in Helena

CommentDaniel SeguroProposed · by introduction2:57:09

yeah. The speeds on Centennial will be east of. The school is higher than 25 miles per hour. The joining speed limit has to be 25 miles per hour to get down to the 15 miles an hour if it's higher than the 25 then you've got to use the at 25 miles per hour when children are present to lower down so there which is what currently out there,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:57:34

so there's no mechanism here to lower the speed limit. So we don't have any additional discretion with to do that in this spot, but we were able to do that. How those leave us as we're lower enough in the Jason. Your hoods I guess I'm trying understand a little bit so

CommentDaniel SeguroProposed · by introduction2:57:56

yeah we're coming from a stop intersection basically to the business district so we have a 25 mile per hour approach and then we're lowering that down whereas Centennial is just a continuous roadway with a higher speed limit than 25.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed2:58:10

Okay, I believe there's some stop signs there too though. But um and I guess my request would be that you guys take another look over there at Los Alamos with the school there it's an area where it's a rural area without sidewalks high speeds are often an issue there especially those who've grown up to the county park or trying to go all way up Drum Canyon to cut across to the valley another way so it's definitely an area of concern that I heard about I have heard about and I understand that just lowering the speed limit doesn't necessarily slow people down, but it is a tool that we should be employing if we have the discretion to do so.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed2:58:46

Supervisor Nelson through the chair, we will be looking at Los Alamos. We also do have a ATP project coming to that area that Caltrans will be implementing but also includes work on Centennial and as we go through that process we'll also be looking to do general safety improvements around the school as well.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.822:59:10

Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.942:59:12

Let's see, I had just a clarifying question and part of it had to do with schools and I think I understand that now. So SB 43 allowed us to lower the speed limit by five miles an hour generally or... And then the safety corridor is an additional five? Or are they one in the same?

CommentDaniel SeguroProposed · by introduction2:59:33

It does allow reductions for considerations to pedestrians also you can lower if you're in between. This 85% of the critical speed comes in between 2 5 mile per hour increments, you can lower it down to lower one now without justification but you can never lower down more than 14.5 miles per hour lower than the 85th percentile OK so we have that limit there But the safety corridor is an additional five miles per hour on the other ones.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.943:00:09

I'm trying to figure out how to explain this in a newsletter to my constituents who will be very interested and wonder if you can provide the language for us, others might be interested too. The formula is complex and I hadn't fully appreciated how complex

CommentDaniel SeguroProposed · by introduction3:00:29

Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Chairman supervisor Hartman yeah, there is a lot of different parts to it and it keeps on changing too over the years and I believe the changes we've had least in last few years have been positive whereas you know a few years back they were they were on the other side where we had

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.943:00:50

Yeah, I think of Assemblymember Hart who is on the Transportation Committee in the assembly and you know especially by schools where they don't have sidewalks. I think Supervisor Nelson raised a really good point that maybe we need a little more discretion there and that would be the kind of bill I think he would be delighted to carry.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.823:01:12

Supervisor Caps?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:01:13

Yeah, thank you. Thanks to the team here and I just want to appreciate your responsiveness when we've had many constituents who have expressed concerns about safety and speeding and even you've gone out there and taken a look so I appreciate that this is now resulting in these changes and my only question for you is just what's the timeline for the changes? Is it just one day the signs are different or is there more to it than that What's the sort of expected time for these changes to be made?

CommentDaniel SeguroProposed · by introduction3:01:46

We'll be returning to your board for your final vote. After that, we have 30 day before we can put them into effect and during that time will be doing work orders and getting the signs ready for installation but it will take us a little bit time to go to all these sites. This is a pretty massive job. Supervisor Williams.

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:02:19

I just want to tell you what a sea change this has been. I mean, you know the change in law is so significant when I represented the area and the legislature on behalf of Goleta we tried to get speed limits just changed On Cathedral Oaks by the junior high because people were being so crazy and we couldn't even get that done. You know, this is just such a welcome change to improve public safety.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.943:02:50

May I ask why is it so hard?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:02:55

You know the concern that people will abuse local discretion on speed limits right? I think

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.943:03:02

yeah

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:03:02

pretty old.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.823:03:06

All right do we have any public comment on this matter.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:03:09

Chair Lavagnino and members of the board, we do have one request to speak on this item. We're going to zoom with Barry Remy.

PresenterBarry RemusProposedself-stated3:03:22

Okay, just got the on you. Good afternoon actually good morning or almost afternoon chair and board members. My name is Barry Remus and I'm with Santa Barbara County sorry couldn't be with you in person today but we really just want to do give on behalf of. Our close to 20,000 supporters and subscribers moves emphatic and enthusiastic support for this and encourage you to submit a unanimous approval of this. And we want to applaud your public works department Thank you, Mr. Smart and staff for really leveraging the new a B 43 law that just allows and really gives local jurisdictions more leverage to be able to reduce speeds where we're deemed appropriate You know, looking at the additional school zone reduction by Los Olivos School.

Modoc Road also corridors in Isla Vista. Isla Vista just adopted, IVCSD just adopted their mobility plan which is also going to bring safer streets to the pedestrian and bicyclist packed area in Isla Vista and they're aware of these changes as well. Goleta just leveraged AB 43 Supervisor Williams just mentioned a plethora of streets in Goleta also going to be having their, their speed limits reduced.

There's no denying that speed kills and unfortunately disproportionately kills more of our vulnerable users pedestrians and bicyclists and those mobility challenge but all users and so reduction in speeds will definitely result results in less. Traffic deaths fatalities and major injuries, achieving getting as close to achieving vision zero goals which more and more communities are adopting that. And also thank you to Supervisor Nelson for bringing up the Los Alamos.

Mr. Snedden mentioned the ATP Los Alamos Connected Community Project, there's actually going to be a public meeting being held by Caltrans in the county on December 11th 530pm at the Los Alamos Men's Club although I'm sure all are welcome to go over the plans and that does include We're looking forward to this we applaud it and we hope that you'll give your unanimous vote. Thank you.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.823:06:05

Second. Moved and seconded, all those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously. All right that takes us to closed session Madam County Council can you tell us what we're going to be talking about

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:06:19

Thank you, Mister chair members of the board. The board is scheduled in closed session to consider 2 items of existing litigation County of Santa Barbara versus roster international and SJ Amoroso construction company versus the county and those are both Orange County Superior Court cases and conference with labor negotiators. The employee organizations or unrepresented employees managers and executives and the agency designated representatives are Assistant CEO Wade Horton and Human Resources Director Christine Schmidt. And the time estimate is one hour.

PresenterTaylor Jonesviticulture at Dearburg Vineyards and Starlane VineyardsProposedself-stated3:06:50

We'll

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.823:06:53

try to be back about 1... I'm gonna say 1.30 because somewhere between 1.15 and 1. 30 Good afternoon, we're going to reconvene this meeting of the County Board of Supervisors. Madam County Council can you read out closed session?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed4:31:14

Thank You Mr. Chair members of the board. The board met in closed session on three items two items of existing litigation county of Santa Barbara versus Rosser International SJM Moroso construction versus the county and conference with labor negotiators for unrepresented employees managers and executives and the board took no reportable action

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.824:31:34

Okay thank you very much. Madam Clerk, can we read item D4 into the record?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:31:39

Chair Lavagnino and members of the board departmental item number four is from the Public Works Department Board of Directors Flood Control and Water Conservation District. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Montecito flood control master plan phase one SC 2301 and this is in the first district.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.824:31:57

All right Mr. Rugalcaba.

PresenterWalter RubicabaFlood Control DistrictProposedself-stated4:32:06

Chair Lavinino, members of the board. I'm Walter Rubicaba with the Flood Control District. Today Matt Griffin and I our engineering section manager will be presenting the Montecito flood control master plan. Some of the topics we'll be covering today is why do the plan? Project history. We'll go over project goals. We'll discuss public input and then Matt will follow up with project details some of the project challenges and what the master plan looks like moving forward.

So why do this plan and why do it now? As the board is aware, the Montecito landscape changed significantly since Thomas fire debris flow. And with those changes have come continued flooding as we experienced in 2019, 2023 and 2024. So the hope is to do this comprehensive master plan which will help prioritize our efforts moving forward with both current and future staff.

It'll also provide guidance for both private and public projects such as bridges and culverts and just general development It'll also help our funding opportunities with grants as the scope, cost and estimate will be better defined. And then lastly as we saw in the public meetings several emails and phone calls, the public support seems to be there at this time they know the flooding history and it's just time for improvements and seems that the public understands that.

So some of the history in the Montecito area. The Montecitos witnessed several flooding events over time if we go back just to 1964, we have 12 documented flooding events and then in 1974 the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers embarked on the Montecito streams report however there was a lack of federal interest and that was likely due to the low density and the high acquisition cost it resulted in a low benefit-cost ratio So no projects ensued from that effort.

However, flooding impacts continue they seem to becoming more frequent impacting both private sector or private infrastructure and public infrastructure if we look at just North Jameson in US 101 since 1995 there's been a seven times at the roadways have either been substantially flooded or completely closed And then historically these creeks have remained natural. They're not part of any integrated drainage plan, they're not engineered structures so what we're seeing is even with 25 to 30 year events on some of the major channels which include Montecito, Oak, San Ysidro and Romero is some of the areas of these creeks are either overtopping or coming very close to overtopping and that's something we would like to change.

As far as the project goals is to prepare a coordinated master plan to help manage some of these flooding events and debris capture. It's also to continue to seek public input, it's also to help implement our improvements in more prioritized manner. and to facilitate grant opportunities. And I want to emphasize grant opportunities because I think it's very important to note that without grants, and without additional funding such as additional property assessments we will not only be able to implement these projects nor will we be able to do operation and maintenance in the future as our local funding is just not enough to sustain this type of effort.

And then lastly on the goals, our goal is to capture either or to try and help manage the 100 year event or a 1% annual chance. But at the same time trying to minimize property acquisition to the extent possible and that's to save cost on our end and to help minimize impacts on private property owners. And with that I will pass it over to Mr Griffin Oh, I'm sorry. One more on my end as far as public input there's been three public meetings to date.

There were two in 2023 one in May and one in November we had another one in 2024 in April. All these meetings were well attended. We have a project website that's dedicated to this effort. It provides opportunities for questions, you could provide comments. It has information on upcoming public meetings such as today's meeting today. It also has archived videos that individuals could go back and look at various public meeting videos in case they are not able to attend and we plan on continuing this effort throughout phase two. And with that I will pass it over Mr. Griffin

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UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:36:46

Thank you Walter. Matt Griffin, Flood Control Engineering Manager. The Montecito Master Plan considers both flood flow conveyance and debris capture. The target industry standard for flood control conveyance is the 100-year flood event that's consistent with FEMA's special flood hazard mapping areas Sometimes it's not always feasible to reach that target goal. For example, the Lower Mission Creek project that runs through Santa Barbara has a design of less than 100-year capacity.

The preferred alternative to improve flood conveyance through Montecito is channel widening. Here you see two conceptual sketches of what channel widening might look like. These channel widening was selected for its effectiveness and for his ability to be maintained accessed over time. Looking at the impacts associated with channel widening of the creeks in Montecito it's been determined that it is potentially feasible to reach the 100 year flood control conveyance capacity and that is what the monocytal master plan is based on Debris capture is addressed by identifying locations for new or expanded debris basins, but there are no specific design criteria for debris capture.

Looking a little closer at the preferred alternatives, the project identifies six miles This is an example of a channel winding across Montecito oak San Ysidro and Romero creeks in their tributaries. The widened creeks would be designed to mimic natural creeks with soft bottoms and rock and natural vegetation on the side slopes. We understand the sense of nature Vertical walls will be implemented where needed to protect buildings and infrastructure.

Some portions of the creeks outside of these 6 miles of creek widening have been identified as already having the 100-year capacity for those locations, no new whiting is planned only the acquisition of easements and more robust maintenance to maintain that capacity over time The master plan has identified 48 bridges and culverts that need to be replaced and upsized.

It identifies nine potential new and expanded debris basin locations of opportunity, and a fully implemented 326 acres across 851 parcels will be removed from the FEMA special flood hazard area. I don't think I can overemphasize the challenges associated with the Montecito Master Plan. For right-of-way acquisition, 247 parcels have been identified as needing easements to accommodate the plan.

Of course, easement acquisitions can be sensitive especially when dealing with personal residences The Montecito Master Plan is currently unfunded. Local funds cannot fund this project, even if those funds are leveraged against state and federal grants. Other funding opportunities will have to be sourced. Some ideas that have been discussed include assessment districts, bond measures or partnering with federal agencies such as the Army Corps of Engineers.

I mentioned the 48 bridges and culverts. Those are owned by a variety of people, the County Transportation Division, Caltrans, Union Pacific Railroad and many private bridges. Dealing with Union Pacific Railroad in particular can be a challenging long and tedious process. There are environmental issues with these natural creeks. Most of these creeks are identified as sensitive habitat for endangered steelhead trout Access for long term maintenance is an important consideration challenge.

And debris disposal and why debris disposal is not actually addressed in the Montecito master plan. It is nonetheless a challenge that we face in Montecito because the amount of debris that is generated there managing that debris and disposing that debris has been a problem for us separately from on Montecito master plan flood control is doing a study of debris disposal alternatives which includes beach nourishment Looking forward at the next steps, we envision more planning and detailed engineering is needed.

Here we're calling that phase two but in the future that might be called something different. Phase 2 goals one is to more clearly define the impacts and costs associated with implementing the master plan it will allow for more continued public input It'll be the basis of the environmental documentation and permitting process when it's complete. When it's also complete, it will allow for more competitive grant applications and potentially it will identify projects of opportunity.

Potentially there's some low-lying fruit out there that we can pick off. Phase two due to the scope of everything involved, we anticipate to be a two to five year process and construction implementation would take several decades. These are the recommended actions before you today, I think it's important to note that the board is not being asked to adopt the Montecito Master Plan at this time so there's no commitment It's just basically general information and a conversation starter looking forward.

And with that, I'll hand it back to Walter.

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PresenterWalter RubicabaFlood Control DistrictProposedself-stated4:43:35

Thank you Matt. Before we open up to questions, I just want to take an opportunity to thank Supervisor Williams for all your support of the district over the years And also for your participation in the master plan, you attended all the public meetings. You participated in the question and answer sessions some of them challenging and just want to thank you for your support. And with that we're go ahead and open it up to questions.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.824:44:00

Questions Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.944:44:03

Yes, well I think of this as a really important model for our county as a whole. It's really if you think of it a climate change mitigation strategy for heavy rainfalls atmospheric rivers and how we're going to deal with this and protect life and property When I think of water, I think that it has multiple uses. And when we think about flood control or shunting water to the sea as fast as we can, I see that you're going to have natural creek bottom. We want to capture the water that we can. I know that our county did a study of groundwater recharge basins and I guess what my first question is does do Areas adjacent to these creeks, have you looked at that compared to our groundwater recharge basin? So that instead of just debris basins can we get multiple benefits from these projects and I think that would lend to additional sources of funding.

And again try to capture water where it's desperately needed and maybe won't need so much desal. So could you comment on that?

PresenterWalter RubicabaFlood Control DistrictProposedself-stated4:45:22

Sure, Supervisor Hartman through the chair. As part of a separate issue we're working with the water agency who's in our group as well Matt Young. We're studying areas countywide not just in the Montecito area to look for potential areas for recharged basins and once there are some included in the Montecito area as well but we're looking at that county wide right now

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.944:45:44

Right, well I just strongly strongly encourage that and I know you're creative and innovative but I think these multiple benefit projects are really the only way we can afford to do it. And water is too precious to just shunt away so we've got to not just capture the debris which we end up wanting to put back on the beaches but trying to capture the water before it gets to the ocean. So thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:46:12

Supervisor Williams. Yeah, this is a question mainly you know so that we can clarify for any members of the public that have expressed concern about this as being sort of like the first step towards a. Hardscape solution what you are I mean you know when people talk about natural solutions what The banks have become channelized, which not only conveys less water because they're not as wide as they would be under natural conditions but also have less habitat. And what you're really asking for is to make V-shaped channels where we have greater conveyance and potentially greater resource value, not lesser resource value That's question number one and question number two is sort of, you know, a hardscape would be a last recourse strategy. It's what I've kind of heard from you in the past and I want to make sure that that's, you know on the that you put that out there for the public as well.

PresenterWalter RubicabaFlood Control DistrictProposedself-stated4:47:24

Yes Supervisor Williams through the chair We understand there's a great desire by a lot of the environmental agencies and a lot of groups out there to have The creeks as natural as possible. And that's going to be our goal as Mr. Griffin mentioned the areas that we're not gonna be able do that It is when we're confined in space, and we don't want to take out structures or homes But to the maximum extent possible will keep these creeks as natural as possible because they'll make it easier for us to permit

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.824:47:56

Supervisor Nelson

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:47:57

Yes, thank you chair Labadino. There was no price tag attached right? Do you guys have any kind of scale of what the cost of all this would be?

PresenterWalter RubicabaFlood Control DistrictProposedself-stated4:48:06

Yeah Supervisor Nelson through the chair it will reach somewhere in the neighborhood with billion dollars.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.824:48:13

All right start up the printing press. All right Supervisor Capps.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:48:19

Yeah thank you for this I was just curious about the cameras and the ability to always be one step ahead on terms of monitoring and technology. And, you know, I know power lines now have cameras in other places. Can you just speak to that and how the public might be linked into viewing the footage etc., so that we can have as much awareness as possible?

PresenterWalter RubicabaFlood Control DistrictProposedself-stated4:48:48

Supervisor Caps through the chair. Yes, we do have a website on our flood control website that has access to many cameras. We have been installing more in the area, well not just in the area but county wide. But yeah, we already do have access to quite a bit of cameras and we are trying to grow that. It is expensive not only just to purchase but to maintain, but the network has been growing versus shrinking.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:49:16

Other thank you other technologies are we I mean where we vigilant about I just want some assurance that were vigilant about making sure we have sort of the latest ability to detect, to prevent, to give residents a heads up etc utilizing technology.

PresenterWalter RubicabaFlood Control DistrictProposedself-stated4:49:38

Supervisor caps through the chair. Fortunately, we have Alex Duran who's in charge of all of our rain gauges and everything else in the county. He's very high tech. He is very leading edge on technology so when new applications come out he's the one who communicates it to us. He works through Matt to see if we could fund it And we try to get those implemented as quickly as possible. And we do work with other agencies to see what ideas they have out there, as well, to just try to make sure that we're staying on that leading edge.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:50:09

Thank you and just my final question was thanks for showing the outreach that you've done I've certainly heard about and read about it but what's the next step once the plan is...I guess it's not being passed today but once you know what's the communication look like to the community?

PresenterWalter RubicabaFlood Control DistrictProposedself-stated4:50:27

Supervisor caps to the chair so will maintain the public website to keep individuals up to date on what we're doing but the next steps will really to start honing in. On more detail on some of the projects and to figure out where those products might exist so for example because of the cost of these efforts we might just focus our efforts from us 101 downstream Because you need to start down at the bottom and then work your way up. And because of the cost associated, we're likely focused on very small areas. Thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.824:51:02

All right, Madam Clerk, you were talking about technology. You want to give an update?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:51:05

Yes, chair Levin, you know members of the board. Thank you for members of the public who are streaming our meeting now and tuning in I did just want to make a brief announcement that the YouTube stream is down fortunately if you're watching YouTube only you won't be hearing this but there are other ways to watch our meetings we are streaming online through Granicus which you can get access As well as through Cable Channel 20, CSB TV 20. That's on Comcast and Cox so those are your two other options if you are streaming.

Alternatively we do have a Zoom meeting primarily used for public comment but if you are wanting to watch that way now we are on the final item and that is fine as well thank you.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.824:51:58

Okay was there any public comment on Item 4?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:52:01

Chair Levinino, members of the board. Yes we have one request to speak on this item from the public and we are going to zoom with Nate Erwin. Nate?

CommentNate Erwin I'mProposedself-stated4:52:14

Good afternoon chair and supervisors my name is Nate Erwin I'm the policy associate with Santa Barbara Channel Keeper first I want to emphasize that the health and safety of the community in Montecito are a top priority no one here wants to put the community at risk But hardening our creeks with concrete isn't the answer. In August, Channel Keeper joined 10 local environmental organizations in submitting a letter to the Board of Supervisors expressing our shared concerns regarding the Montecito Flood Control Master Plan and following our review of the Phase 1 report these concerns remain both relevant and urgent Our creeks and our ocean are invaluable assets. They should be at the heart of our community and not hidden in concrete channels.

Communities that chose concrete for flood control are now spending billions to restore the critical natural systems that they lost. Let's learn from their mistakes, once done this kind of damage could never truly be undone We support the county's vision for a comprehensive master plan to protect Montecito. And we appreciate Supervisor Williams and Santa Barbara Flood Control staff for meeting with us to discuss this project, their willingness to engage in these discussions demonstrates a crucial first step towards collaboration.

We believe that open dialogue and transparency are imperative to executing a successful and resilient master plan. However, the current approach developed largely in isolation relying heavily on hardened forms of flood protection misses a vital opportunity for early partnership with regulatory agencies, environmental organizations and the community. A plan of this magnitude with an estimated price tag nearing $1 billion and a timeline that could extend well beyond our lifetimes requires a unified effort.

Developing this plan without early consultation risks costly delays, unexpected hurdles and a slower path toward our shared goal of protecting Montecito's residents and cherished watersheds for generations to come. Without early active input from agencies like the Regional Water Quality Control Board, National Marine Fishery Service, California Department of Fish and Wildlife and the California Coastal Commission, the project faces the possibility of setbacks that will not only affect project timelines But could lead to creating a project that fails to balance the needs of the community and the environment. We strongly advocate for the formation of a technical review team composed of permitting agencies, community members and subject matter experts to work with the county throughout the planning process.

This collaborative approach will allow phase two and future planning stages to move forward with actionable, realistic solutions that sets Montecito on a path toward resilience in the face of growing climate impacts to protect both our community and our watersheds. Thank you very much for the time today.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.824:55:10

And thank you. And so that closes out public comment. We have recommended actions in front of us A through D. Entertain a motion, Supervisor Williams?

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role4:55:23

So moved.

ElectedSteve LavagninoChairProposedvoiceprint 0.824:55:27

Seconded by Supervisor Hartman. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? It passes unanimously. All right that closes out our business for today's meeting before we adjourn. I just want to adjourn today's meeting in the memory of Willie Galvan. Willie was a, we lost another community leader this past week. Willie it was perfect timing couple of months ago we were able to honor him here at the Board of Supervisors with a resolution But for those of you didn't know him, he was a veteran of the United States Army.

And right after he left the service while in Texas, he met the founder of the American GI Forum which is an organization advocating for veterans' rights. Willie founded numerous chapters always focusing on championing political and social change He, his life I think can be wrapped up with resilience, perseverance and the power of community. He is survived by his wife Helen six children 30 grandkids and 12 great-grandchildren a life well lived and we will all miss Willie Galbon here in the Santa Maria Valley so with that we will adjourn to our meeting on December 10th in Santa Barbara