BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 June 10, 2025

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.740:19 · ≈ 9:00 AM

Good morning, everyone. I'm calling to order this meeting of June 10th 2025 Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. Madam Clerk please call the roll.

Roll call, called by Jacquelyne Alexander
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Supervisor Hartman here. Supervisor Nelson here. Supervisor Lavinino here. Supervisor Lee here and Chair Katz and I'm here.
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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.740:37 · ≈ 9:00 AM

Please join us in pledging allegiance to the flag. Ready begin. Okay, first up is approval of last meeting's minutes. May I get a motion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:16 · ≈ 9:01 AM

There's no report this morning.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:17 · ≈ 9:01 AM

Okay? Madam Clerk, I hear we

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.691:21 · ≈ 9:01 AM

have a long list of announcements. Chair Caps and members of the board, I do have a few announcements this morning. An addendum was posted on Friday, June 6th 2025 amending several administrative items on today's agenda. First administrative item number 10 from the Behavioral Wellness Department regarding a Crestwood Behavioral Health Inc first amendment to the fiscal years 2023 through 2026 service agreement for institutions for mental mental disease and first amendment to the Crestwood Behavioral Health Inc 2023 through 2027 services agreement The second reading of amendments to the cannabis business licensing fee ordinance was amended. The ordinance number Next slide, please. Thank you. Lastly administrative item number 26 from the public works Department and the Board of Directors flood control and water conservation district regarding fiscal year 2025 to 2026 flood control projects authority to advertise receive bids 2nd 4th and 5th districts was amended The changes included in the addendum have been posted and made available online to both the board and the public.

Since there are no requests to speak on these items, they may be added to the balance of the administrative agenda. Additionally, there is a salary announcement associated with administrative item number 24 from the Human Resources Department regarding a performance-based salary adjustment for County Council. In accordance with Government Code Section 54953 C3 of the Government Code prior to taking final action, the legislative body shall orally report a summary of a recommendation for a final action on the salaries, salary schedules, or compensation paid in the form of fringe benefits of any local agency executive during the open meeting in which a final action is to be taken. This is a recommendation of the Board of Supervisors to approve the recommended performance-based merit salary increase.

The oral reading of a recommendation of the recommendations with this action is intended to satisfy this requirement. Approval of the recommended performance based merit And lastly for the Board of Supervisors methods of public participation and to provide public comment on general public comment or an item on the board's agenda, please see page two of the agenda.

Individuals that would like to provide verbal public comment may do so via Zoom by registering in advance via the link available on page 2. If you have any questions please contact the Clerk of the Board's Office at area code 805-568-2240 again that's 5 6 8 2 2 4 0 and that concludes my announcements for today.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:24 · ≈ 9:04 AM

Okay thank you for that we will move to the administrative agenda I believe we have a few that have been pulled Thank you. We have any other board members? The ones that I have listed are a 11, a 17, a 25 and a 30 by our board. Any others in that list?

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PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.694:47 · ≈ 9:04 AM

Madam Clerk, the public. Yes, chair caps and members of the board. We have requests to speak from

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.745:02 · ≈ 9:05 AM

Okay, lots of agenda items then. So then I will entertain a motion to approve the balance of the administrative agenda

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:10 · ≈ 9:05 AM

so moved with the added corrections by the clerk

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.745:14 · ≈ 9:05 AM

second okay all those in favor aye motion carries so now let's move on to our resolutions

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.695:25 · ≈ 9:05 AM

Chair Capps and members of the board. Administrative item number one is sponsored by Supervisor Lee. It is to adopt a resolution proclaiming the week of June 9th, 2025 through June 13th, 2025 as Home Visiting Week in Santa Barbara County and joining us in person today we have Kelly Berrigan, Director of Maternal Child and Adolescent Health Program at County Public Health. Linda Oh, Public Health Nurse Supervisor at County Public Health. Lupe Valencia, Health Education Assistant Senior at Public Health As well as Jenny Stitt, Ada Grace and Ashley Benson. And I will go ahead and read the resolution.

Whereas children thrive when parents and caregivers are supported with knowledge, confidence and encouragement from trusted skilled professionals. And whereas home visiting plays a vital role in supporting early childhood development by fostering safe stable and nurturing relationships during the earliest years. A critical window for brain growth and long-term success and serves as an essential tool for advancing equity by connecting families especially those facing systemic barriers And whereas home visitors empower families with practical tools and compassionate guidance to meet the unique development needs of children, improving health and educational outcomes while strengthening family bonds. And whereas these highly trained professionals deliver services with deep respect for community context and each family's culture values and lived experience meeting families where they are physically And whereas we celebrate and commemorate the dedication, compassion and lasting impact of home visiting professionals across Santa Barbara County in partnership with First 5 Santa Barbara County, Santa Barbara County Health and the community partners who implement home visiting services.

The board of Supervisors will therefore be here by order to resolve that this Board of Supervisors of the County of Santa Barbara does hereby acknowledge the week of June 9th through 13th 2025 as home visiting week and urges all residents to recognize the vital role of home visitors and their unwavering commitment

PresenterGuadalupe Valenciahome visitors countywide I would like to extend gratitude ForProposedself-stated7:39 · ≈ 9:07 AM

Good morning Chair Kaps, Supervisor Lee and members of the board. My name is Guadalupe Valencia I am a home visitor for the Healthy Families America program with County Health on behalf of the home visitors countywide I would like to extend gratitude For your acknowledgement of the home visiting week, a time to celebrate the dedicated professionals who support families during the earliest and most critical years of a child's development.

And to elevate awareness of home visiting as a vital pillar of our family support ecosystem. Home visiting programs connect pregnant and parenting families with trained family support professionals who provide Personalized guidance, encouragement and practical tools for navigating early parenthood. Across our county home visiting is delivered at no cost through evidence based and evidence informed models that promote healthy pregnancies straighten parenting skills and confidence support family self-sufficiency and prepare children for lifelong learning.

At Healthy Families America We walk alongside families who often face significant challenges, barriers and others that may navigate more easily due to access to resources education or support. As a family specialist support I am proud to be part of a program that empowers families by building their knowledge, confidence and skills through consistent relationship-based home visits.

Our work focuses on strengthening families by helping them become more resilient in the face of adversity through education connection to resources and compassionate support we assist families navigating complex systems related To housing, food security, child care, employment and health care. We don't just make referrals we build bridges and walk beside families to ensure that they do not fall through the cracks.

Healthy families support each family holistically helping parents maintain vital medical and dental care for themselves and their children also while promoting nurturing parents through practices in healthy child development We provide education and emotional support so parents feel prepared, capable and connected as they raise their children. One family that especially stands out is that of a young first-time teenage mother with limited family support after giving birth she faced significant mental health and preparing parenting challenges Through HFA she received postpartum depression screenings, mental health referrals and consistent encouragement.

She learned about her child's development milestones how to bond through age-appropriate activities and how to be a nurturing parent despite the hardships she faced. Today she is thriving. She recently graduated from high school and returned to the workforce with confidence and purpose better equipped to support her child and family Thanks to the consistent caring support of healthy families, Santa Barbara County.

This story like so many others remind us that with the right support families can overcome even the most difficult obstacles and create brighter futures for themselves and for their children. Home visitors are difference makers this inaugural Santa Barbara County home visiting week celebrates the profound impact Home visiting and the extraordinary professionals behind it. We thank them for their timeless commitment and nurturing brighter futures, one visit, one family and one child at a time. Thank you.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7411:47 · ≈ 9:11 AM

Thanks to our home caregivers for showing up this morning and for doing the work. Let's move on next to the next resolution please.

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6911:57 · ≈ 9:11 AM

Thank you. Chair caps and members of the board administrative item number 2 is sponsored by supervisor Hartman is to adopt a resolution proclaiming June 19th 2025 as Juneteenth 2025 in Santa Barbara County and joining us in person today we have Yasmin Dawson Alex Merkinson and race ago via. And if Whereas from 1619 to 1808, hundreds of thousands of African people were forcibly brought to what is now known the United States stripped of freedom and humanity under the brutal system of chattel slavery. And whereas on January 1st 1863 President Abraham Lincoln issued an emancipation proclamation declaring enslaved persons in Confederate states to be free And whereas the Emancipation Proclamation did not end slavery nationwide, excluding states like Missouri and Delaware and withholding full rights from black Americans.

And whereas many enslaved people in Texas remained in bondage until June 19th 1865 when federal troops enforced emancipation freeing 250,000 people and sparking what became known as Juneteenth And whereas slavery was officially abolished with the 13th Amendment in December 1865, though its exception clause has fueled the disproportionate incarceration and exploitation of black Americans.

And whereas Juneteenth is an opportunity to educate, honor the contributions of African-Americans, and recommit to ending racism and promoting equity in all areas of society. And whereas Santa Barbara County supports grassroots efforts such as Juneteenth And whereas in 2025 we mark Juneteenth as both a historic milestone and a continued call to advance freedom, justice and equity for black residents throughout the county. Now, therefore it is hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors of the County of Santa Barbara declares June 19th 2025 as Juneteenth Independence Day in Santa Barbara County and encourages all residents to take part in Juneteenth events reflect on the struggles and triumphs of black Americans and help eliminate racial injustice in our communities past and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed14:18 · ≈ 9:14 AM

First I'd like to announce the day, time and activities that's going to be present at our Juneteenth event. We will have the Juneteenth event on June 14th. We'll have entertainment, speakers, dignitaries, activities, children's programs and so much excitement there. So we would like to see you it would be June 14 from the hours 11 to 5. So we look forward to seeing you all there.

And I'd like to start off by saying good morning, honorable members of the County Board of Supervisors. Today I come before you with a heart full of deep gratitude not just on our own behalf but on the behalf of generations who never got to stand at a podium like this I would like to begin by thanking the members of the board whose names were never spoken in rooms like this, but whose resilience made this moment possible. Your recognition of Juneteenth is more than a gesture. It's an affirmation it tells the truth.

Still has a place in our institution that freedom still has value and that the stories of those who It marks a delayed promise of freedom finally reaching our people, years after it should have. But still we receive it with dignity, with prayer and with hope that our children will walk the freer path than we did. Your vote today echoes far beyond this room. It says that you see us, not just in our past pain but in our present power. It says that our ancestors' lives were not in vain. That their labor, their love and their cries for justice still live through us.

And in times like these where history is being rewritten or buried, we say thank you for choosing to honor it. Thank you for choosing truth. Thank you for affirming that black freedom is American freedom. I'd also like to take a moment to honor the hands and hearts behind our recent Black History Celebration. Cozetta Blow, Alex Merkison, Monty Montgomery, Nicola Howe, Tina Price And the incomparable LaWanda Pruitt. They didn't just plan an event. They carry a legacy.

They reminded us that we are more than a struggle, we are brilliant creativity and unshakable faith on behalf of C4 Lompoc collective cultures creating change. We stand before you in unity and humility. Thank you thanking you not only for today's resolution but for affirming that our stories our history and our freedom still matters deeply May we continue to rise rooted in justice, guided by truth and held by the prayers of those who came before us. Thank you so much and thank you for keeping us community strong. Thank you.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.8917:45 · ≈ 9:17 AM

Supervisor Hartman. Well I just wanted to thank C4, those are the leaders Alex Ray and Miss Yasmine they're really making a difference block by block neighborhood by neighborhood organizing in Lompoc against violence and dealing with adverse experiences and turning that to healing so thank you so much for all your work Yeah, and

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7418:11 · ≈ 9:18 AM

as Miss Dawson said Juneteenth is sacred. So thank you for sharing that sacredness with us. Okay next. Oh there's public

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6918:20 · ≈ 9:18 AM

comment on this one. Thank you Chair Kaps and members of the board we have one request to speak from the public on this item and we are going to remain here in Santa Maria with Karen Hauenstein. Karen?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed18:30 · ≈ 9:18 AM

Karen Hauenstein I am born and raised in Lompoc a resident of La Lompoc Valley It's interesting how political alliances are formed in this county and how nonprofits are formed in this county and how the money flows through them. The reason why I'm standing up here today is because several months ago there was a protest held in Lompoc at the corner of H Street and Ocean, and Alex Murchison who received that award here today was involved in causing racial tension and division in Lompoc.

I was a victim of it. It was put out on social media in a video, and I was reported falsely to authorities As I have been falsely reported in the past because of my parents wealth and assets and how they've been attacked by political allies. Everything is being documented and recorded. And when people are hypocritical When they stand in public and say that they are not promoting racism or division or oppression.

But then they do that behind the scenes somebody needs to call it out. Thank you.

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6920:13 · ≈ 9:20 AM

And that concludes public comment on this item OK

let's move to the next administrative agenda item chair caps and members of the board

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.9120:21 · ≈ 9:20 AM

Excuse me, Madam Chair. Yes, I can't let that go. I'm sorry. Public comments are a great thing in this country allows people to share their differences of opinion and I think that's kind of what makes this country great. I just think it was a perfect example of the dichotomy And I just really appreciate Supervisor Hartman for bringing the resolution. And I'll definitely make it a point to either be in Lompoc or Santa Barbara this week, so appreciate that.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7421:02 · ≈ 9:21 AM

Thank you, Supervisor Lavanielle. Okay next resolution.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed21:07 · ≈ 9:21 AM

It actually takes time to adopt the resolution. Supervisor Hartman's. Would you want to make a motion? I

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.8921:15 · ≈ 9:21 AM

think

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed21:16 · ≈ 9:21 AM

it's a good time to do it.

CommentJet Black-MerrittsProposedself-stated21:17 · ≈ 9:21 AM

So,

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.8921:19 · ≈ 9:21 AM

I move that we adopt this resolution in support of Juneteenth.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.9121:23 · ≈ 9:21 AM

I'll second.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7421:24 · ≈ 9:21 AM

All those in favor?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.9121:26 · ≈ 9:21 AM

Aye.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7421:27 · ≈ 9:21 AM

Motion carries.

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6921:35 · ≈ 9:21 AM

Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Chair caps and members of the board.

Moving on to our next administrative item administrative item number 4 is from the behavior We have one request to speak from the public And Lynn, we've unmuted you and you're unmuted. But I, uh, we cannot hear you in the room perhaps your microphone.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed22:23 · ≈ 9:22 AM

Can you hear me now?

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6922:25 · ≈ 9:22 AM

There you are. Yes, we can. Please proceed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed22:27 · ≈ 9:22 AM

Okay. Thank you. Um, thank you Chair Capson, Honorable Supervisors. Um I serve as NAMI Santa Barbara County Public Policy Chair and as an advisor to Families Act. Uh, I want to thank the Department of Behavioral Wellness For its plan to add a treatment beds at the champion healing center. And this is based on the success of four justice-involved beds that were added from a grant by the Community Corrections Partnership. And the board letter indicates the success in avoiding future incarcerations, hospitalizations and crisis events when people get this longer term treatment that they need.

Um, the addition of these beds is will provide an off ramp under mental health conservatorship for those who are so ill in the jail that they're trapped. They're unable to provide for their own basic needs or agree to treatment. Under mental health conservatorship, which just applies to a relatively small number of people with the most serious illness. The guardian has just two authorities to see that the person takes medications that have worked for him or her In the past, and to see that the person is safely housed at whatever level of housing is indicated.

My daughter's mental health conservatorship a number of years ago saved and restored her life when she was at the highest risk. And she now lives independently in mental health housing with wraparound services from a behavioral wellness full service partnership. And this is the level of care that we want for everybody. And having these additional beds in the county for justice involved individuals supplements our continuum of care for these people who were at the highest risk and the most need. So thank you so much.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7424:59 · ≈ 9:24 AM

I just wanted to add that Lynn, thank you for also in many ways that you serve our community. You also serve as a BWAL Commissioner so thanks for pulling this and highlighting the progress. Okay next item we need a motion.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed25:18 · ≈ 9:25 AM

I move A4. Second.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7425:21 · ≈ 9:25 AM

All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Motion carries

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PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6925:35 · ≈ 9:25 AM

Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank thank you. Chair caps and members of the board moving on administrative item number 11 is from is also from the behavioral wellness department. Excuse me from

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7425:52 · ≈ 9:25 AM

Supervisor Hartman, I believe you pulled this.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.8925:54 · ≈ 9:25 AM

Yes, I did. I just wanted to acknowledge all the good work we're doing with this grant money and how oversubscribed this program is and to mention that we have formed an ad hoc committee to talk to the bowl about options for how we can expand these funds. And so that's ongoing, it was initially formed with Supervisor Williams and now thank goodness Supervisor Lee is continuing and I think we've got some scheduled discussions coming up. So just wanted to use this opportunity to report to the board. We did have a presentation by the bowl here and we're continuing our discussions.

Excellent,

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7426:43 · ≈ 9:26 AM

any other comments questions?

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.7926:44 · ≈ 9:26 AM

I do

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7426:45 · ≈ 9:26 AM

yes

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.7926:45 · ≈ 9:26 AM

as long piggyback off that and there will continue to advocate for more arts funding in that we will not give up and be more staunch in our discussions

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7426:56 · ≈ 9:26 AM

okay with that I'll take a motion

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.7927:00 · ≈ 9:27 AM

so moved second

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7427:03 · ≈ 9:27 AM

Thank you. All those in favor please say aye. Aye motion carries. Okay, madam clerk on to the next

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6927:10 · ≈ 9:27 AM

administrative item has been pulled. Chair caps and members of the board administrative item number 14 is from County Council it is to consider recommendations regarding an outside council contract amendment with Oppenheimer investigations group LLP and there's a for fist vote required on this

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed27:38 · ≈ 9:27 AM

So Oppenheimer Investigations and all of the subcontractors and contractors who work for County Council, and the District Attorney's Office. I'm making a public request to my representatives. I want to know exactly how much money this county has spent investigating me personally for the interests Because Joan when you authorized case number 2 0 CV 0, 2, 7, 4, 6, When you authorized that. Created a situation.

And now we have a situation where anybody who wants to place the label on me. I want to know how much money this county has spent investigating me personally. This is going to end publicly, Joan. Just like it did for DOS.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7429:21 · ≈ 9:29 AM

Yes, Supervisor

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed29:21 · ≈ 9:29 AM

Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.8929:22 · ≈ 9:29 AM

I would just like to clarify for the record that I have no control over the District Attorney and what cases he pursues. I have no control over enforcement cases that our administrative agencies pursue as Board of Supervisors we directly supervise two people, the County Council and our CEO. Absolutely

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7429:49 · ≈ 9:29 AM

okay with that I'll take a motion

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed29:52 · ≈ 9:29 AM

I move a 14. Second

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7429:56 · ≈ 9:29 AM

all those in favor, please say aye motion carries. I believe it's a 11. We have a motion to adopt the second

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PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6930:07 · ≈ 9:30 AM

reading of an ordinance amending chapter 50 of the county code licensing

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ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.7930:26 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Good. The reason why I pulled this is because there were some questions about the confusion about the actual acreage that's been capped, so I just want to bring this to attention and put on record that we are clarifying the exact acreage and there's not much confusion about what's being voted on and done. So staff can... Is it possible to clarify exactly Average doesn't have the number

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7430:54 · ≈ 9:30 AM

so you're just talking about they think there's confusion over the

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.7930:56 · ≈ 9:30 AM

actual a lot of people we don't know.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7430:58 · ≈ 9:30 AM

Yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed31:05 · ≈ 9:31 AM

Good morning, thank you. It's Carmela Beck, cannabis broker manager. Thank you for the question Supervisor Lee through the chair at last week's board hearing on June 3rd CEO staff brought forth three options for potential cannabis acreage cap reductions in the Carpinteria overlay and unincorporated areas per the board's request upon conclusion of the presentation your board accepted option three which is proposing reduction of the acreage cap to the issued approved and submitted acres to exclude processing.

Staff received the board's direction and is presently reviewing an all issued approved and submitted cultivation acres to finalize the new cap acreage numbers staff plans to bring forward ordinance directed ordinance amendment language Thank you for clarifying any questions comments.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7432:31 · ≈ 9:32 AM

I believe

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6932:32 · ≈ 9:32 AM

that

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7432:32 · ≈ 9:32 AM

the 20 Madame clerk

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6932:33 · ≈ 9:32 AM

a 25 chair caps and members of the board administrative item number 25 is from the information technology department it is to consider recommendations regarding a 3rd amendment to the agreement with pick Tom a tree international core and there is a forfeits but required on this item.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed32:48 · ≈ 9:32 AM

Okay supervisor Nelson yes, thank you chair caps I just have some questions for staff understand somebody might be here from ICT

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed32:56 · ≈ 9:32 AM

Andrea's online. As

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed33:00 · ≈ 9:33 AM

well

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed33:02 · ≈ 9:33 AM

Hi Amy,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed33:05 · ≈ 9:33 AM

thank you for being here. My first question is I was just looking at the numbers of the costs so just for the public's benefit this is an item where we have a contract where I understand we're hiring a third party who would then do imagery for the entire county and I think the entire contract is over a million dollars. So it was kind of wanted to understand, you know, I know there's a lot of good technologies out there that are available publicly like Google and Bing has a map and all these other ones. Why is this different? What are we not getting from some of these other sources that we necessarily need to pay a third party to do some additional flyovers of our county?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed33:46 · ≈ 9:33 AM

Supervisor Nielsen through the chair. The imagery we are contracting spectrometry to provide is to our specific specifications. Imagery from sources like Google or Bing are a combination of different sources of inconsistent quality And we also don't know how old the images are. With this contract with Pictometry, we know what time frame the imagery was collected. We also know that the urban areas are 3-inch resolution. The rural areas are 6-inch resolutions which is what we requested.

They've also gone through an extensive quality control process to make sure that the images are clear and accurate and they meet all of the resolution requirements. We also get oblique imagery which is I see a lot of the different departments that are paying for this or potentially

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed35:02 · ≈ 9:35 AM

Regulatory departments, right? So there might be enforcement that might be playing to this. Can you just expand on how these images will be used?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed35:11 · ≈ 9:35 AM

Supervisor Nelson through the chair. Yes they can be used by assessor to determine additions to property or additional structures on property. They can be used by, I always forget the name, public works water department to look at creeks and do some measurements on angles of the banks and do some watershed analysis as well. Those are just two. You can also look at streets Look at sidewalks, how those look. Our planning and development can also use this imagery to again look at structures see if things look correct do some preliminary analysis before they go into the field.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed36:03 · ≈ 9:36 AM

Well, thank you for that. You know and I guess my last question that I had for you was so the county's paying for this imagery is that could be made available to the public now that we have this imagery? Or is this something that would be proprietary to the county which I'm just trying to understand that a little bit better because that would be a concern of mine if it's, you know, we bought it. You know, it seems like it'd be a public asset for paying $1 million to have some plane trips of photography or accounting that now belongs not only just the county government but belongs to county residents and taxpayers. Can you go into that a little further?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed36:39 · ≈ 9:36 AM

Supervisor Nelson through the chair. Yes, the imagery will not be available for download by the public or export. We will be able to embed it into any map products that we provide to the public so evacuation maps or even just maps of parcels. We can provide imagery with that. Our agreement with pictometry does not allow us to necessarily publish this out to the public I am not clear on whether it could be subject to a PRA request.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed37:11 · ≈ 9:37 AM

And that was going to be my next question, so if we can download it and we have it in our possession, could the public potentially get the same information from us? Are we contractually eliminating the public's access to this? This question is actually for Council.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed37:37 · ≈ 9:37 AM

Supervisor Nielsen, members of the board. I'm not sure the terms of this contract. Typically we're able to provide documents or in a form that's just accessible to the public so I'm not sure if we would be allowed to are required to provide it with this software

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed38:00 · ≈ 9:38 AM

Okay, I'm just kind of highlighting that as a concern. You know my overall thoughts on this imagery is you know it's a little Big Brother-ish for me you know but we're already way past we could have jumped the shark on that if you go if you go onto any of these other websites a lot of this already available. This seems to be a little bit more precise which might help us in some of our We're going to be looking down into people's properties and taking a deep look into in a way that we've never done before. And so that makes me pause as somebody who doesn't think that, you know, government control is always the best thing. Sometimes we should pause and think about it and not take it so lightly. So I'm okay with moving forward. I understand there's a lot of value for us as an organization.

I would like to make it available to the public as much as possible so the public knows what we know. Because I think that's also important as a level playing field. So, as much as it is contractually or legally available for us to do that, I would like for us to be able to do that for anybody in the public that might want to have this same information that we do.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed39:25 · ≈ 9:39 AM

Yes, Supervisor Nelson, we will definitely look into that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed39:28 · ≈ 9:39 AM

Thank you. With that, I'll go ahead and move this item.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7439:32 · ≈ 9:39 AM

Okay. And I'll second. All

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed39:35 · ≈ 9:39 AM

those

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7439:35 · ≈ 9:39 AM

in favor please say aye.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed39:37 · ≈ 9:39 AM

Aye.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7439:38 · ≈ 9:39 AM

Motion carries. OK, now to our final administrative item which is that has been pulled, which is 830.

Roll-call vote Moved by Bob Nelson · Seconded by Laura Capps
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My apologies chair caps my slide switched in between mid motion that was a motion by Supervisor Nelson and a second by chair caps. Yes great. All righty, Chair Caps and members of the board. Administrative item number 30 is from Supervisor Hartman and Supervisor Caps. It is to consider recommendations regarding the reaffirmation of county opposition to new offshore oil leasing in response to the U.S. Bureau of Ocean Energy Management BOEM's 11th National Outer Continental Shelf OCS Leasing Program. And we have four requests from the public on this item.

Okay, supervisor Nelson. Did you want to speak first or go to the public?

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6940:41 · ≈ 9:40 AM

Public first please ma'am clerk chair caps and members of the board we will begin on zoom with Cecily Galinsky Cecily.

CommentCecily GolinskiProposedself-stated40:52 · ≈ 9:40 AM

Good morning, my name is Cecily Golinski and I'm a law clerk at the Environmental Defense Center. I would like to thank you for the opportunity to comment on this important issue and I encourage the board to adopt the resolution affirming the county's opposition to allowing more offshore oil leasing off of California's coast as part of the 2025 National OCS Oil & Gas Leasing Program.

As you all know, oil and gas production can have detrimental effects on the health and prosperity of our marine and coastal environments. It was not too long ago that we witnessed the devastation firsthand of the 2015 oil spill at Refugio Beach which shut down fisheries closed beaches and impacted our valuable marine life. The 2025 five-year leasing program proposes unnecessarily opening our coasts to more oil and gas development Not only is the program unnecessary and premature, but it is already fraught with legal issues. For example, the program does not exclude nationally protected marine sanctuaries such as the nearby Chumash Heritage Site nor does it consider the issue of former President Biden's previous withdrawal of the entire Pacific region from the OCS program.

Therefore to defend the sanctity of our marine environments and laws protecting them I encourage you to adopt the resolution at issue today. Thank you for your time.

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6942:07 · ≈ 9:42 AM

We will now go to Santa Barbara with or sorry we will remain in Santa Maria with Karen Hauenstein to be followed by Noah Boland in Santa Barbara. Karen? Oh it appears Karen has

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed42:28 · ≈ 9:42 AM

stepped away oh

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6942:30 · ≈ 9:42 AM

here she comes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed42:36 · ≈ 9:42 AM

I'm going to

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6942:37 · ≈ 9:42 AM

pass on this one, thank you. Alrighty we will now go to Santa Barbara with Noah Boland. Noah? We cannot hear Santa Barbara unless Noah you haven't begun speaking.

CommentNoah BolandProposedself-stated43:00 · ≈ 9:43 AM

Can you hear me okay now?

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6943:02 · ≈ 9:43 AM

Yes we can thank you

CommentNoah BolandProposedself-stated43:04 · ≈ 9:43 AM

Thank you. Chair Capps and honorable supervisors, my name is Noah Boland and I'm the policy analyst at Heal the Ocean. While I am here today to support this proposed resolution, I am also here to let you know that Heal the Ocean has an incredible new executive director, Karina Johnston. Karina is a highly achieved defender of our ocean and she's the perfect fit to carry on Hillary Hauser's great legacy at Heal the Ocean.

Heal the Ocean and Executive Director Karina Johnston strongly support your staff's recommendation to adopt this resolution reaffirming the county's opposition to new offshore oil leasing off the coast of California. In January of 2018, your staff adopted a similar resolution opposing leasing efforts proposed in BOEM's 2019 to 2024 program citing the region's historical experiences with major oil spills, the unique and significant biodiversity of the Santa Barbara Channel, and the economic importance of tourism, recreation, and fishing.

In 2025, these concerns are even more urgent especially as the county considers its role as a national leader in reducing greenhouse gases, progressing the transition to renewable energy, adapting to coastal climate impacts and protecting our ocean. Heal the Ocean opposes any new offshore oil and gas leasing in federal waters off the California coast as part of the 2025 to 2030 National OCS Leasing Program. And we urge BOEM and the U.S. Department of the Interior to exclude all areas offshore of California from new lease sales.

We also request that Bowen provides robust public participation opportunities in Santa Barbara County during all stages of the program's development, including scoping and draft program review. The California coast deserves permanent protection from offshore drilling. In Santa Barbara County, we know the unique and valuable ecological and economic benefits of our coastal waters and we have seen more than once how these resources can be damaged from offshore oil extraction.

These resources are beneficial on a national scale and they must not be threatened. Please move forward with the recommended action and adopt this vitally important resolution. Thank you for the opportunity to speak today.

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PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6945:32 · ≈ 9:45 AM

And that concludes public comment on this item.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7445:36 · ≈ 9:45 AM

Okay, well Supervisor Nelson pulled it but he stepped away. So Supervisor Hartman do you want to speak to why we put this

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.8945:43 · ≈ 9:45 AM

forward? Sure. Well first point I'd like to make is that states from California to New Jersey have in fact Taken bipartisan stands, Oregon, Washington, Florida and North Carolina against federal efforts to expand offshore oil drilling. They recognize what we already know the risks are too great and the benefits are too small especially as we transition into a clean energy future.

We already heard in comment, but I think it's important to underscore that we're stewards of one of the most biodiverse marine ecosystems in the world. Our kelp forests are underwater rainforest carbon sinks that protect our fisheries shelter marine life, and stabilize the seabed. But these ecosystems are already under siege. Ocean acidification and warming waters are stressing marine habitats. Adding oil drilling to that equation is reckless.

And yet, the Trump administration has pushed aggressively to reopen our coast oil interests despite fierce local opposition. They've tried to strip California of its authority to set its own vehicle emission standards by revoking the California waiver. They proposed slashing funds for clean energy research and development. They've censored words like climate change and sustainability from government programs and documents. They gutted NOAA's ability to monitor and inform on climate driven disasters so that we can't get information going forward about billion dollar climate disasters which have nearly doubled each decade since 2000.

And at the same time, they are proposing to shift the cost of these disasters onto the states and downsize FEMA. So in effect, the administration is trying to force fossil fuels onto the states and communities that are already leading the clean energy transition. This isn't really just a policy disagreement. It's an assault on local self-determination, environmental stewardship and our economic future. We can't drill our way to energy security or climate stability so I urge that we stand with our residents with science and with future generations and oppose new offshore drilling along our coast.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7448:07 · ≈ 9:48 AM

Thank you Supervisor Hartman. Supervisor Nelson I believe you pulled this do you want to speak? Okay, well I'm also the co-author of this and as Supervisor Hartman eloquently stated this is kind of a routine action. I guess the last time that this happened was in 2018 but I would argue that we need to be doing this even more today because of the threats against California specifically California seems like retribution is at play in many forms and shapes And when it comes to our environment, we do need to protect it. We have seen so much activism right now currently in our community. It's incredible. I just was with hundreds of people at an event on Sunday.

Many folks were there and there is just such a renewed commitment and realization that we have to be fierce I want to start by saying that this is a very important issue in our opposition to offshore drilling. Previous Board of Supervisors passed this letter in 2018 and so I'm proud to bring it forward today to the Bureau to the federal government to again state our opposition to offshore drilling with that, I will.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.9149:33 · ≈ 9:49 AM

We continue to pass resolutions and we continue to take action where we're trying to limit production of oil, but we don't do anything to limit the usage of oil. And until we adopt some sort of resolution that the county itself is going to refrain from using fossil fuels I just can't get on board. So, I'm the biggest cheerleader and adopter of any replacement energy source. I've continually voted to continue to pursue green energy transition but the reality is we're still in transition and until we get out of transition, we still need fossil fuels and we still need oil as energy source to keep this country moving.

So I understand the concept behind this and the idea of it The goal of it, but I can't support the actual moving forward with it. So I will be in opposition.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.8950:34 · ≈ 9:50 AM

Yeah, Supervisor Hartman. Well I just wanted to say that this board actually unanimously has been supporting electrification of our vehicles and weatherizing our buildings and solarization and the county is a member of 3CE which is electrifying our grid so we are doing something in fact moving aggressively

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.9150:58 · ≈ 9:50 AM

I agree and I think like I said, I think we're leading the way in transition. And I've been on board with all of those things. I just don't think you can cut off one of the legs of a three-legged stool and expect to continue to be, you know, a leader in the world. So

PresenterLeo Deca-Salvesover 2Proposedself-stated51:16 · ≈ 9:51 AM

yeah,

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.9151:17 · ≈ 9:51 AM

I think it's work kind of saying the same thing but I'm just a little bit stronger in one area so I'm going to oppose the resolution.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.8951:23 · ≈ 9:51 AM

And if I might just add, because the thing that really strikes me is that if the oil companies really were thinking about an energy transition it would be more than business as usual and expanding and expanding. And if that were the case maybe we could partner but it isn't. It's really a contest between renewables and oil

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7451:50 · ≈ 9:51 AM

Yeah, I thank you Supervisor Labrador-Neal for what I'm hearing is even a more aggressive transition for this county and our facilities to move to renewables. And again, to restate it was unanimous vote just recently I want to get to 100%. I think that especially when we're spending taxpayer money on facilities So and I'm actually kind of surprised that we get to weigh in with the federal government. And so I just want to do so with strong emphasis of my opposition to offshore drilling.

OK, with that, I will make the motion.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.8952:51 · ≈ 9:52 AM

I will second

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7452:53 · ≈ 9:52 AM

and we'll do a roll call vote.

Roll-call vote Passed 3–2 motion. I will second and we'll do a roll call
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Supervisor Hartman, aye. Supervisor Nelson, no. Supervisor Lavinino, no. Supervisor Lee, aye and Chair Kaps, aye.
PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6953:09 · ≈ 9:53 AM

Motion passes 3-2.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.7453:11 · ≈ 9:53 AM

Motion passes okay we will move to our departmental agenda I'm sorry we'll go public comment first this is for those in the public who wish to speak on non agendized items

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6953:27 · ≈ 9:53 AM

Yes, chair caps and members of the board. We have 5 requests to speak from the public on general public comment today we're going to remain here in Santa Maria for all 5 to begin with Karen Howenstein to be followed by Mary Rojas Karen.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed53:46 · ≈ 9:53 AM

I have to point out in the conversation you just had, Mrs. Capps that you misspoke and you said bleeding by example instead of leading by example. I heard bleeding by example and that is very true because this county has made some significant mistakes especially with the AMR debacle When you sit up here and you push political agendas, political agendas that are damaging to our county and our community because of its opposition And there is 4000 gallons of oil every day seeping out of the ocean or of the ground beneath the ocean into the ocean every day so these seats.

Are happening happening naturally. So what are you going to do about those are As a constituent and someone who follows everything you guys do very closely. Is the 11 million dollars that had to come out of the general fund to satisfy the AMR settlement? And nobody at the county got in trouble? Nobody lost their job? How are you guys taking care of this corruption problem?

Because it indicates there's a big corruption problem at the county. Thank you for your time.

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6955:38 · ≈ 9:55 AM

We will now go to Mary Rojas, to be followed by Lily Leon. Mary?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed55:41 · ≈ 9:55 AM

Good morning ladies and gentlemen. Two years ago, I joined AmeriCorps with a simple but powerful intention to serve. I didn't bring all of the answers just a deep desire to listen, to learn and to walk alongside people experiencing homelessness during some of the hardest chapters of their lives. I wanted to be a part of something bigger than myself. What I quickly learned is that homelessness doesn't wear a single face. It's veterans carrying invisible wounds, it's survivors of domestic violence navigating trauma, it's parents doing everything they can to keep their kids safe and its neighbors battling addiction and untreated mental health concerns.

These are people often pushed to the margins overlooked unheard and underestimated. One story that I will never forget is of a woman who called me after her husband was hit by a drunk driver They had been living in their car for years with their two children, relying on each other to get through each day. The accident left her husband without a leg and a broken neck and left the entire family in deep crisis. She was shaken, exhausted, and unsure how to move forward.

I didn't have a quick fix, but I had time, compassion and resources. And I stayed with her through every step of the journey. We got her family into temporary housing right away and then worked to transition them into permanent supportive housing. Along the way, I connected them with medical care, trauma-informed counseling, school support for the children and income assistance. What I gave wasn't just information it was presence, consistency and a promise that someone was in their corner.

Today that family is no longer living in survival mode. They have a safe place to call home, the kids are enrolled in school and finally have the stability that they deserve. Her husband is receiving the care he needs and she's begun the long but hopeful process of healing. I've learned that helping someone move into housing is more than just a logistical success. It's an emotional victory. For many of my clients, it's the first time in years that they have felt safe. It's the start of rebuilding trust, health and possibility.

What I gave in service, I received back tenfold. I've learned that vulnerability is strength and that empathy not judgment is what brings us closer. AmeriCorps has taught me that service isn't about saving people, it's about walking beside them as they reclaim what has always been theirs. Their humanity, their hope and their future. There are thousands of stories like this and countless more waiting to be written. If you believe in building a world where everyone is seen heard and valued there's a place for you in service just join us listen stand besides someone witness the change you might just find your own transformation along the way Stories like this one don't happen in isolation. They are the result of a community coming together. I want to extend my deepest thanks to all of the partners who made this family's journey possible, the Housing Authority, our local health care providers, school liaisons, social workers, case managers and fellow AmeriCorps members.

This is what it looks like when systems align to meet human need. Together we helped a family find safety, stability and hope and that's a victory we will all share. Each person that I've worked with has a story that deserves to be heard. I've learned that homelessness isn't a single experience, it's a spectrum of struggles strength and survival. I've met veterans parents survivors of domestic violence and individuals facing mental health and addiction challenges these are people who have been overlooked and underestimated for far too long.

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.6959:09 · ≈ 9:59 AM

Thank you Mary that is your time thank you we will now go to Lily Leon to be followed by Matthew Clint or Lily

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CommentLily LeonProposedself-stated59:23 · ≈ 9:59 AM

I'm horrible at public speaking so please excuse me. I just want to give thanks to Mary Rojas for speaking on behalf of what an AmeriCorps member does for the community. I'll just give you an update on the AmeriCorps program itself, my name is Lily Leon and I am a Program Manager for AmeriCorps for United Way of Northern Santa Barbara County I wanted to give a follow-up on the AmeriCorps program. On June 6, a federal judge ordered the Trump administration on Thursday to restore AmeriCorps programs in 24 states including California.

This injunction may receive an appeal from the federal government. This would mean we would have to continue the members as United Way volunteers without any federal support. This is unlikely but possible. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. My name is Barbara County Board of Supervisors and I'm here to speak on behalf of the board while we welcome the news. We're still vulnerable to more federal cuts. Also this injunction does not cover the state's not included in the lawsuit or reinstating AmeriCorps national staff that have been cut by more than 50% This has not this has not changed despite that I'm a beauty of the positions.

Every AmeriCorps member but 2 has chosen to continue helping veterans and people experiencing homelessness more than 50% have experienced We continue to see high morale from the AmeriCorps members despite their limited stipends. And I also just want to give thanks to Ivana Carlos for becoming a United Way staff member after serving for AmeriCorps, so thank you guys have a good day.

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PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.691:01:11 · ≈ 10:01 AM

And i believe our next speaker might have left the room Matthew Clint Orr So we will now go to our final speaker on general public comment, Andy Caldwell.

CommentMatthew ClintProposed1:01:31 · ≈ 10:01 AM

I'm chair members of the board, Andy Caldwell representing CoLab. I wanted to address some of the things that were said by this board when they bushwhacked the oil industry especially comments that the oil industry is precipitating fires and fires are precipitating Thank you. Next slide, please. This is from your own fire department. It shows that we have a 100 year history minimal of ginormous fires in this region. It's not just some recent things since Al Gore and others thought up the concept of climate change Published in the journal Environmental Pollution, California wildfires in 2020 caused twice the amount of greenhouse gas emissions that the state reduced between 2003 and 2019. And in other words it wiped out 18 years of efforts to reduce emissions.

Next one, this is from the Bren School at UCSB. So you'll notice they've got transportation's largest sector followed by residential ag oil and gas and waste. But what's missing from this? What's missing from every emission inventory I've ever seen in this county for 35 years is offshore oil seeps which have been documented by UCSB to equal or exceed the cars on the 101 and second fires, which we just told are twice at least as much as cars if not higher. So if you put those two on their oil and gas and trash and AG are zero they effectively 0 out The other thing I want to bring up on the next slide is this is from KCRA in Sacramento.

This did not get a lot of publicity for a lot of reasons that are easily discernible. California lawmakers grilled the regulators and the reason they grilled the regulators, if you go to the next slide, They realized that nobody has been thinking about consumers as the price of oil has been driven up by shutting down oil and gas production and refining. And so on the next slide, you got a couple of quotes here. David Alvarez says we have a crisis in our hands. This is the greatest understatement in the history of California. We have a crisis on our hands that may have been self-created by the actions taken perhaps by regulators.

More specifically, Democratic Assemblywoman Cote Pietre says I know what climate leadership does not look like and that's $10 per gallon gas. And then finally There was one final assemblyman that asked the question, if we shut down our oil will it not be delivered by ships and will that not mean more emissions? And of course the regulator had to admit, yes that's true. And again this is all going around you but in your little echo chamber here you're gonna stick to your story that oil and gas is causing fires.

I want to bring one last thing up on the list of environmental organizations that were here that day Forest Watch was one of them. In today's Santa Barbara Independent, the Forest Service was actually going to clear out 200,000 plus acres of dead tree and dead brush and again the environmental community stopped them. That's your largest source of greenhouse gases next to offshore oil and gas seeps you're looking through the wrong end of the telescope thank you.

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.691:05:31 · ≈ 10:05 AM

And that concludes general public comment for today

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:05:35 · ≈ 10:05 AM

Okay thanks to members of the public for speaking. Now we'll move on to our departmental agenda

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PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.691:05:47 · ≈ 10:05 AM

Chair caps and members of the board department line number one is from the public works Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the adoption of a proposed fee ordinance for public works, transportation divisions development review and plan check review services and we have a request from

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:06:08 · ≈ 10:06 AM

Okay we need a motion to to

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.691:06:12 · ≈ 10:06 AM

stay until the 24th. Chair Kaps and members of the board, we have no request to speak from the public on this continuance request

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:06:19 · ≈ 10:06 AM

okay?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.911:06:20 · ≈ 10:06 AM

I'll make a motion to continue.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:06:22 · ≈ 10:06 AM

Second. All right all those in favor please say aye. Aye. Motion carries on the continuance. Now Madam Clerk will you please read departmental item number two

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.691:06:33 · ≈ 10:06 AM

to the record Chair Capps and members of the board, departmental item number two is from the Agricultural Commissioner and Weights and Measures Department as well as the Planning and Development Department and the Clerk Recorder Assessor Elections Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a Williamson Act overview.

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:07:41 · ≈ 10:07 AM

Good morning Chair Caps and members of the board. I'm Stephanie Stark, deputy with the Agricultural Commissioner's Office Weights & Measures Department and chair of the Agricultural Preserve Advisory Committee. To my right is Jose Chang he's the agricultural commissioner and weights and measures sealer with the department and we also have Lisa Plowman with Planning and Development she's the director Thank you for the opportunity to present you with an overview of the Williamson Act.

The presentation responds to the board's request during the October 15, 2024 hearing when planning and development staff brought forward six county initiated notices of non-renewal. At that time, the board directed staff to return with a presentation about the Williamson Act in the county's agricultural preserve program. As the chair of the Agricultural Preserve Advisory Committee I'll present the overview and answer any questions.

Today I'll be covering basic background of the Williamson Act, an overview of the uniform rules requirements I'll provide a summary of the Agricultural Preserve Advisory Committee roles and responsibilities. And describe how Williamson Act land is taxed. And lastly, I'll wrap up with program compliance and program enforcement. The Williamson Act also known as the California Land Conservation Act encourages long term agriculture in open space by preventing premature urban development.

It also supports the local economy and agriculture is a $1.8 billion industry in Santa Barbara County. It preserves access to local food, open space and recreation. The Williamson Act was enacted in 1965 to protect agriculture and open space from development pressure, and from rising property taxes. Assembly Bill 2117 authored by John Williamson allowed voluntary 10 year contracts between landowners and local governments in exchange for reduced tax assessments.

The Williamson Act was later reinforced by constitutional amendment reaffirming the state's commitment. to land preservation. In 1967, Santa Barbara County adopted the program when only six counties and 200,000 acres in the state were enrolled under contract. And this graph shows the number of acres contracted, of contracted land in the county over the last 16 years. The acreages range from about 550,000 in 2008 to about 500,000 acres in 2024.

And this map shows where the Williamson Act contracts are located within the county. The green represents all the land under Williamson Act contract and the purple pinkish areas were a little bit light on the screen right now, those are the incorporated lands. The box on the right hand side provides additional Williamson Act statistics, including we have about 505,000 acres which is 67% of agriculturally zoned land that's currently enrolled in the program. Approximately 2,000 assessor parcels and 1,281 individual agricultural preserve contracts.

Core concepts of the Williamson Act include that the land is used and restricted in exchange for property tax benefit. Contracts can consist of one or multiple parcels, and multiple parcel contracts must be under the same ownership. Agricultural preserve boundaries must match parcel boundaries, and contracts are for a minimum of 10 years with a rolling term.

They are automatically renewed each year following the first year of the contract. Contracts do not inspire unless the county or the landowner terminates the contract. Contracts run with the land and it stays attached to the property, not the person. So even if the property is sold or inherited, the new owner must honor the agreement. The state used to allocate funds to counties to offset the cost of property tax losses and Santa Barbara County received our last payment of $676,000 in 2010 when this date ended the subvention program.

The Williamson Act requires that each participating local government adopt a set of local rules for administering the Williamson Act program. The Santa Barbara County Uniform Rules for Agricultural Preserves and Farmland Security Zones, also known as the uniform rules is the set of rules by which the county administers the agricultural preserve program. The local rules may be stricter than the Williamson Act but not more lenient.

They establish requirements such as zoning and minimum acreages for contracts and preserves, requires commercial agricultural production is the primary and principal use of the land. It also limits non-agricultural development and provides guidance to ensure secondary uses are compatible with the primary use of agriculture. The program requirements include that the landowner maintain ongoing eligibility and that the landowner submits an annual questionnaire about uses on the property. And I'll talk more about this later in the presentation.

If land is sold, the landowner must file a notification of assumption. So the Agricultural Preserve Advisory Committee or APEC administers, monitors and enforces the uniform rules. APEC also reviews applications for new agricultural preserve contracts and land use proposals for consistency with the uniform rules in the Williamson Act. Land use permits are reviewed and approved by the appropriate decision maker.

The committee reviews ordinances and policies for consistency with the uniform rules, and the Williamson Act is advisory to the Board of Supervisors. The committee members offer guidance and support via phone, email, and during committee meetings. Landowners and members of the public are encouraged to bring discussion items to the committee even before submitting a formal application.

Membership consists of five representatives, that's myself with the Agricultural Commissioner's Office. County Planning and Development, County Assessor's Office, County Public Works, and the University California Cooperative Extension Farm Advisor. County Council on Planning and Development hearing support are at each meeting but they're non-voting members.

So Williamson Act properties are taxed, the taxation is calculated annually by the county assessor. Williamson Act tax assessments are based on how the land is being used and for each individual contract. So land that's being used for commercial agricultural production are assigned an agricultural value whereas land with structures and personal land uses are assigned a Prop 13 value.

The assessor determines values based on the annual questionnaire and research. One of the three values is selected to determine the lowest taxable value. It would be either the Williamson Act Value, which is a summation of the agricultural value and the Prop 13 value or just the Prop 13 value, or the fair market value.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:16:11 · ≈ 10:16 AM

Ms. Stark, just one second we have a question from Supervisor Nelson.

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:16:14 · ≈ 10:16 AM

Yes?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:16:15 · ≈ 10:16 AM

So I think you might, I might be jumping again a little bit because I think you're coming to this slide where there's not everybody fills out their questionnaire Right. So what is it? Do you default to Prop 13 value when the questionnaire doesn't get filled out?

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:16:28 · ≈ 10:16 AM

Supervisor Nelson through the chair, that's a question that I would defer to the assessor's office but I will say that later in the presentation we do talk a little bit about more about those questions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:16:37 · ≈ 10:16 AM

Okay so just so the assessor knows I'll be asking some questions.

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:16:40 · ≈ 10:16 AM

Okay thank you. Usually the Williamson Act is the lowest value but sometimes the prop 13 or the fair market value are the lowest. And then finally the lowest value is taxed. This is the slide addressing the annual questionnaire, so the county utilizes the annual questionnaire when calculating the agricultural value during tax assessment. So a questionnaire is mailed to every contract holder in January The uniform rules require that landowners must report crop acreage, income and expenses and any changes in land use.

The bar graph shows the percent return rate for the annual questionnaire and there is a decreasing trend showing 74% in 2015 now approximately 64% in 2024 Usually non-compliances are found in a number of, one of two ways. Either through the Agricultural Preserve Advisory Committee project review process So for example, when a landowner brings a proposal to the committee we look at not only whether the proposed use complies with the uniform rules requirements. But we also evaluate whether the property continues to meet the eligibility criteria for the contract.

The second way is through ownership changes. When the county records a change in property ownership this may create a non-compliance from multi parcel contract. For example, if a multi-parcel contract is partially sold resulting in a split ownership the contract becomes inconsistent with the uniform rules. So to correct this each resulting parcel must independently qualify and enter into their own separate contract.

The most common non-compliances include insufficient or no agricultural production. The personal use limit exceeds what's allowed in the uniform rules or failure to qualify or obtain a replacement contract. Enforcement is conducted on a reactive basis and addressed when brought to the committee's attention, however the committee does not actively seek out non-compliances.

If the Ag Preserve Advisory Committee and the landowner cannot resolve a non-compliance, the committee will recommend to the Board of Supervisors to non-renew the contract. So there are two main paths for terminating a contract, non-renewal and cancellation. Non-renewal is the most common way to withdraw from the program and it is the preferred method as per the Williamson Act.

The county or the landowner can initiate non-renewal, and it's a nine year process with a gradual tax effect. There is no fee for the landowner to initiate non renewal. Cancellation, on the other hand are for limited circumstances described in the uniform rules and the county must give consent and the board must make findings. It's much less common than a non-renewal.

Immediate termination of the contract and it also has an immediate tax effect. The landowner can initiate this, but the county cannot initiate a cancellation. It's also expensive with fees that are 12.5% of the market value of the property. So after the Ag Preserve Advisory Committee identifies a noncompliance Through meetings and noticing multiple opportunities for the committee in the landowner or the agent are given to work together and come to resolve a noncompliance.

If there is no response from the landowner, we cannot come to a resolution. The committee will recommend the board not renew the contract Then planning and development processes the non-renewal, including taking it to the board for consideration. And if the board approves to non-renew the contract, the clerk of the board records the non renewal. The non renewal will go into effect January 1st of the following year as long as the county serves notice by November 1st.

This is because there is a 60 day noticing requirement in the uniform rules. And this is a reminder that the contract remains in effect for the remaining nine years. This bar graph illustrates the number of county initiated versus owner initiated non-renewals from 2017 to 2025, this is a 9 year period you're seeing. Green is owner initiated and blue is the county initiated.

Non-renewals go into effect the following year. For example, non-renewals that came to the Board of Supervisors in October 2024 those went into effect in 2025 So this slide loops us back to the county initiated non-renewal cases that came before the board in October of 2024. The table summarizes the noncompliances and you can see that some of the contracts had more than one noncompliance, however they all fall into the top three reasons which are insufficient agricultural production Exceeding personal use limits and failure to qualify for or obtain a replacement contract.

This table provides a cost estimate for bringing the non-compliant contracts listed in the previous slide into compliance. In each case, the county resolved the issue by initiating non-renewal of the contract. The estimated Ag Preserve Advisory Committee costs, this includes time spent on research, meetings and communications with the landowner and or their representative.

Estimated county planning and development staff costs are to process the county initiated non-renewals. There are no non renewal application fees so there's no cost recovery. And the annual tax benefit is because it takes approximately a year to identify non-compliance, to recording and non-renewal. The landowner continues to receive the tax benefit during that time so this was included as a cost.

So the total estimated cost is approximately $85,000 to address the seven county initiated non-renewal cases considered by your board in October 2024. So this concludes my presentation and I'm happy to answer any questions.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:24:11 · ≈ 10:24 AM

Thank you so much. Questions from the Board? Supervisor Nelson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:24:14 · ≈ 10:24 AM

Yes, thank you Chair Caput. Go back to slide 15 for a moment.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:24:23 · ≈ 10:24 AM

So

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:24:25 · ≈ 10:24 AM

just wanted to point out though that there is a cost to the county of going into non-renewal but there's also benefit. In future years, that tax benefit of $35,000 will go back on the rolls. And the county will be receiving those funds moving forward. So our actual out-of-pocket dollars is $50,000, which looks like we probably recouped that in about a year and a half is what I'm seeing from this number. So I just wanted to point that out for my colleagues that even though when we spend some money on enforcement We're going to eventually get back recaptures in that tax revenue if I understand that right. And since the assessor is here, could you maybe expand on that? Am I understanding that correctly?

GuestKim TebowAssessorProposedself-stated1:25:09 · ≈ 10:25 AM

Yes. So hi, I'm Kim Tebow from the Assessor's Office. Yeah so for instance on these six, the difference between if they were paying their full Prop 13 value for the property as opposed to what they're getting in the Restricted Williamson Act. The difference is approximately $35,000. Again this is a nine-year process to get them out of the Williamson Act so we slowly recoup that until they are actually back at their Prop 13 value in the 10th year.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:25:45 · ≈ 10:25 AM

So it's about ten percent or eleven percent a year and that nine year period?

GuestKim TebowAssessorProposedself-stated1:25:48 · ≈ 10:25 AM

It's actually kind of front loaded because it depends on what they are, what the difference is between their Prop 13 and they're restricted. So they're being taxed on that amount so it's higher in the beginning.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:26:02 · ≈ 10:26 AM

Okay good. And then the next question that I had earlier about those who aren't submitting their surveys. It's gone down by 10% from 74% to 64% over the last ten years, so you guys don't have anything to go off of. So what does the tax bill look like when somebody doesn't fill out a survey?

GuestKim TebowAssessorProposedself-stated1:26:19 · ≈ 10:26 AM

So we collect the information from the people that do, the 60% that do return their surveys. And we use that to make benchmark rates that we're going to put into our calculation and then across the board we use those rates for everyone so it's just taken from what we do receive but we again are not getting the full 100% cooperation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:26:45 · ≈ 10:26 AM

So make sure I understand this correctly So you guys use the same type of Williamson Act rate across all Williamson Act properties? Right.

GuestKim TebowAssessorProposedself-stated1:26:55 · ≈ 10:26 AM

So I mean there's a rate, you know for vineyards have a different rate. Orchards, you know land, prime land, non-prime land but we apply that uniformly across the Williamson

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:27:06 · ≈ 10:27 AM

Act properties. It's not on a parcel by parcel basis? Correct. Okay that's...I didn't realize that so that's really helpful. I'm really glad you did this presentation. I think those so those others that are not reporting or gain the benefits of those that are reporting on their behalf.

GuestKim TebowAssessorProposedself-stated1:27:26 · ≈ 10:27 AM

They I mean they may be a benefit to them you know it would be helpful to have all the information to see one problem when people don't report is that is how we do tax orchards, we do taxed vineyards We know what their acreage is, but we don't know how much is in production sometimes. So we use those to keep accurate records on that if we don't get those records, we may not know about those orchards. We may not know that things were removed that we should have taken off the role

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:28:01 · ≈ 10:28 AM

so or expanded or

GuestKim TebowAssessorProposedself-stated1:28:02 · ≈ 10:28 AM

expanded

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:28:03 · ≈ 10:28 AM

exactly right? So that's problematic when they don't report because they might need to be paying a higher rate based on All right. I have some questions on the planning side, but I'll let my colleagues ask questions right now on this.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:28:26 · ≈ 10:28 AM

Well, sorry, I just want to jump in and just say I'm a little confused as to the high number of those who don't report it's annual? Yes. And are there ramifications

GuestKim TebowAssessorProposedself-stated1:28:34 · ≈ 10:28 AM

for not reporting? We do not have any enforcement in place. We do send those out to every Williamson Act property every year. And then we have, you know, we ask that they return them in a reasonable time and then we go ahead. We still have to close the roll so we go ahead with what we have.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:28:55 · ≈ 10:28 AM

Okay I mean is there a sense that perhaps the ones that aren't reporting are not no longer doing agriculture? And should be the ones that are no longer qualified.

GuestKim TebowAssessorProposedself-stated1:29:08 · ≈ 10:29 AM

It could be we don't know it could be various reasons, it would be if they are you mean It could just be that there's no one who is reporting, maybe they have a new farm manager or ranch manager. No one's picking up the paperwork. We don't know it could be various causes but we have seen an increase over the years of non-reporting.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:29:38 · ≈ 10:29 AM

Okay well I'd just be interested in any efforts to ramp up I understand, you know, but if it's just a letter for their phone calls, et cetera, et cetera. I don't need to believe that. But anyway, I just want to jump in on supervisor Nelson's question on the front supervisor Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:29:54 · ≈ 10:29 AM

Oh, I guess just on the questionnaires. I mean, is it a requirement in the contract when they sign it initially? I believe it is.

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:30:09 · ≈ 10:30 AM

Supervisor Hartman through the chair yes it's actually in the uniform rules its uniform rule 1-2.3 that they need to submit the annual questionnaire, yes.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:30:20 · ≈ 10:30 AM

And we know it's going actually to the owner of the property. So many properties are least owned by one and I just wonder if that has been a trend in our county, and I wonder if that could help account for the lower rate?

GuestKim TebowAssessorProposedself-stated1:30:38 · ≈ 10:30 AM

It goes to the addresses we have on file, however in the Williamson act questionnaire. We do ask about is the property being leased who you know who is the least see what's what's their information so we do try to collect that information

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:30:54 · ≈ 10:30 AM

yeah, but I'm just wondering if somebody may get it and say gee I don't know I'm not going to all set this aside right So I had a question, not necessarily for the auditor. I am often asked you know what does the county do to support agriculture and I often refer to the Williamson Act because the state used to pay for this right? And the County Board previous to us then decided we're gonna absorb those costs because we want to protect agriculture in our county is that correct?

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GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:31:31 · ≈ 10:31 AM

Supervisor Hartman through the chair. Yes, regarding the subvention funds that used to be something that counties would obtain every year and yes we're no longer get those subvention funds

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:31:43 · ≈ 10:31 AM

So I mean, I think that that's something important for us all to know and to highlight. The other issue that I just want to flag is you advised the Board of Supervisors this came up in the Agricultural Enterprise Ordinance where we ended up getting conflicts between what the Planning Commission said and what APAC said. And so from my perspective, given that we get advice from the Planning Commission if APAC could also just let the Planning Commission know what you're thinking on certain major policy initiatives that would be very helpful because we like to see things resolve below us if at all possible.

So I just wanted your reaction to that.

CommentKatie CohenProposed · by introduction1:32:39 · ≈ 10:32 AM

Supervisor Hartman through the chair. I don't think that's a problem. I don't see an issue with sharing information with the Planning Commission about, and I believe we did in the Ag Enterprise Ordinance process. The Planning Commission did know what the APAC's concerns were or recommendations were but the board is the arbiter right? Yeah.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:33:20 · ≈ 10:33 AM

Ideally that from my perspective would be a good thing. The last question I have and I think we're going to, we had a letter about this and we may get public comment but how it is that we define the minimum productive acreage? And I think it says 50% of the premises are 50 acres whichever is less

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:33:45 · ≈ 10:33 AM

Supervisor Hartman through the chair. Yes for this particular contract, that's a prime contract so it is 50% of the parcel or You know whichever is less in that particular instance there is some constrained Uses on the property. So yeah, it's 50 percent of the premises are 50 acres whichever is less and then if there is And if there are areas that cannot be planted such as terrain or sensitive area or resources. the committee has the discretion to determine what is what how much how much should

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:34:36 · ≈ 10:34 AM

So is that then, is that the rule that just applies to small properties? So if you were a large ranch of thousands of acres it would, that wouldn't apply.

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:34:47 · ≈ 10:34 AM

So yes, Supervisor Hartman through the chair, yes for non-prime contracts which are greater than 100 acres there's no specific planting acreage requirements just that you have production agriculture

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:35:02 · ≈ 10:35 AM

So I'm not sure, I think today we're just agendized to receive and file a report but I am interested in a greater discussion at some point for these smaller properties about how we define the denominator. You know are we looking is the 50 acres or 50% I think the letter explained it that we got Again, I'm not sure whether today is a time we can give any direction on this but I am eager for more discussion and to understand the implications to make a decision at some point in the future.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:36:04 · ≈ 10:36 AM

Thank you Supervisor Nelson. Do you have further questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:36:07 · ≈ 10:36 AM

Yeah, getting just to the compliance side on those that are returning their surveys do we have a good understanding of those that like haven't done it for 10 years and then some of them that are just you know what they skip a year or they do it next year I mean do we have a good idea or is it this same actors that typically just don't return there and it's been many many years

GuestKim TebowAssessorProposedself-stated1:36:30 · ≈ 10:36 AM

We do keep track of those over the years and we do have like five year, ten year. I don't have those figures right now but we do keep track.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:36:38 · ≈ 10:36 AM

I think that'd be nice to have for the board and i think as we start to have a conversation about enforcement you know i would always want to go to those that probably haven't reported in five or ten years and say hey what's going on there? You know to try to increase that number so we have a more accurate number one but also likely that's going to be the low-hanging fruit on those that are not I think the nature of agriculture, you know there's different seasons and different markets. And so it's not unusual that somebody might skip a year because there might be something going on for a couple years and while there is a transition but it seems like those that are You know have been not doing it for many, many years. They should we should take a little deeper look especially when we see there might be you know some potential revenue which is really you know we're benefiting those that are kind of the bad actors.

You know those ones that are doing the things right. You know they're the ones that should be receiving this benefit and actually kind of bit a bad name on those that are actually do it the right way. So I think that's something that we should at least look at as we move forward so maybe getting the board that information to later date would be great.

GuestKim TebowAssessorProposedself-stated1:37:44 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Yes we can get you that information.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:37:46 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Thank you.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:37:49 · ≈ 10:37 AM

Supervisor Lee, did you have a question?

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.791:37:50 · ≈ 10:37 AM

I do. Just a comment. I agree with Supervisor Hartman that we do need a deeper discussion about this Wilson Act. So the question for staff is Do you see any abuse of people using this act for their own benefit? For example someone from Los Angeles who's wealthy buy a big parcel put a pig or two on a grape farm and reaps the benefits. Do you see any instances like that in our county?

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:38:15 · ≈ 10:38 AM

I'll let the APAC Board answer that one. Supervisor Lee, through the Chair. The Ag Preserve Advisory Committee we take each instance on a case-by-case basis so we always review contracts when they come to before us so I can't speak to how many or any specific instances but we just look at whether or not that contract is consistent with the uniform rules and maintains ongoing eligibility. But definitely we are advisory to the board and so if the board would like us to come back with more information and more details, we're happy to do that.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.911:38:54 · ≈ 10:38 AM

Thank you

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:38:56 · ≈ 10:38 AM

Thank you, Supervisor Lavanino.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.911:38:58 · ≈ 10:38 AM

Thank you. I don't know who this question is for but well I guess on compliance just what does like the six or seven whatever it was and I understand the actual definition of what didn't meet the right percentage. What does that actually look like in real terms? I don't see, I'm trying to figure out kind of like what does it look like when somebody goes into noncompliance. Is a vineyard where they're ripping the vineyard out or is it?

What does that look like in real terms?

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:39:29 · ≈ 10:39 AM

Supervisor Lavagnino through the board. So is your question what happens to the property after it goes in noncompliance?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.911:39:35 · ≈ 10:39 AM

No no I mean like how did we so we made a determination that they didn't qualify and I'm sure we were in discussion with the landowner Right. And then so, so what I guess what are the details of like a specific case where would somebody fall out? The personal use one might be one. Yeah. So explain like a personal use. Oh,

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:40:00 · ≈ 10:40 AM

I see. So in a scenario where the Ag Preserve Advisory Committee finds noncompliance they come to the committee for you know request X and the committee reviews ongoing eligibility Perhaps we see an example might be of a very small contract and they have quite a bit of personal use so that would include a house, a pool, tennis court. You know there's limits in the uniform rules.

I'll give you concepts. There's limits in the uniform rules about how much personal use or residential use they can have and they can either plant more, remove some of those personal uses so that they meet the planting requirement. That they're not going over that personal use cap and then they could be in compliance and stay under contract if that isn't able to be achieved a landowner does not want to do that perhaps a landowner says I want to keep this area that I have they go into then that's where the county would go through the County initiated non-renewal process

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.911:41:06 · ≈ 10:41 AM

Okay so these are generally smaller parcels probably?

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:41:09 · ≈ 10:41 AM

Some are. It's just the smaller the parcel, the more constraints.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.911:41:13 · ≈ 10:41 AM

And then if somebody is found to be in noncompliance and let's say we determine that there was noncompliance well I guess I've got to ask my first question first do we use any technology like land IQ or anything to determine you know expansion or contraction of agriculture or anything?

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GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:41:34 · ≈ 10:41 AM

In terms of Supervisor Lavagnino through the chair, is the question specifically about individual contracts? Like what technology are we using to determine

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.911:41:45 · ≈ 10:41 AM

compliance? So I guess what I'm kind of getting at is let's say somebody comes in a non-compliance and APAC determines that they're in non-compliance. But they haven't been in compliance for 7, 8, 9, 10 years or something and we're just becoming aware of it. Do we have anything to prove that? Because what I was kind of getting at is there a look back if somebody has not followed the system for ten years, they haven't filled out a form and then we find out that it's a small piece but they have the house, the pool, the garden all that stuff.

And they've had a benefit for the tax program. Is there a look back at all?

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:42:22 · ≈ 10:42 AM

I'm not aware of. Perhaps the assessor might have additional information on that?

GuestKim TebowAssessorProposedself-stated1:42:30 · ≈ 10:42 AM

I mean in our office when we're looking at things like say they've pulled out vineyards and put a tennis court there or something,

CommentCecily GolinskiProposedself-stated1:42:44 · ≈ 10:42 AM

Yeah

GuestKim TebowAssessorProposedself-stated1:42:44 · ≈ 10:42 AM

that's

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:42:44 · ≈ 10:42 AM

about it. Okay and I just want to mention too that in the uniform rules there are provisions when we talk about a property being or contract being fully planted, there are provisions for fallow time or time when they're in between crops so that's also in the uniform rules and addressed.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.911:43:03 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Okay and then on the non-response to the questionnaire can you generalize that as far as I mean when I think of Williamson Act, I think of the Santa Maria Valley with huge crop production. Are those folks? I mean who are we talking about? Is it Santa? I don't want to...Santa Teresa Valley? It's agriculture but it's four acres and it might be questionable kind of thing. What do we see?

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:43:28 · ≈ 10:43 AM

Well generally in the uniform rules there In our county, there's contracted land throughout the county. So in the southern portion of the county is typically where we have a lot more prime contracts, super prime contracts and those are less five acres which is very small contract. Middle has more prime contracts, larger contracts are throughout mid-county and northern county as well. Yes, we could break that down for you as well on some data in the future showing you what type of contract

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.911:44:03 · ≈ 10:44 AM

Okay, I think we can ask Claire too. So all right. Thanks.

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:44:06 · ≈ 10:44 AM

Okay.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:44:09 · ≈ 10:44 AM

Okay. Thank you. Why don't we go to public comments process?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:44:11 · ≈ 10:44 AM

Yeah, I'm sorry to jump around it. You're fine. I want to make sure my colleagues were able to hit those different topics on the permit processing side. So when somebody proposes a new use of property that is under the Williamson Act then at that point we do we look at the entire properties that way I understand that

CommentKatie CohenProposed · by introduction1:44:33 · ≈ 10:44 AM

Supervisor Nielsen to the chair. So if somebody comes in and proposes a new use on the site, then the planner who's looking at the application will assess it and then for compliance with code but also bring it to the Ag Preserve Advisory Committee to verify that it meets the uniform rules and meets the intent of the contract meaning they're within their two-acre envelope let's say if there are non prime contracts and that's where And then they have active agriculture on the rest of it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:45:05 · ≈ 10:45 AM

So I guess the question is, are we looking at just a new proposed use or do we end up looking at the whole entire contract at that time?

CommentKatie CohenProposed · by introduction1:45:12 · ≈ 10:45 AM

So you're asking more of a question about zoning.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:45:15 · ≈ 10:45 AM

It's definitely about process right because if somebody comes in and says I wanted to do a campground an AEO that is allowed with the zoning clearance Do you just look at that campground or do you evaluate the entire contract at that point to make sure everything they're doing on that parcel is now compliant with that to move forward?

CommentKatie CohenProposed · by introduction1:45:38 · ≈ 10:45 AM

So historically, we have a finding in our zoning ordinance for the issuance of a land use permit that says there aren't violations on the property. So we are supposed to look to see if people have constructed buildings illegally when we have so that's that has been a practice at the department because of that finding

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:46:05 · ≈ 10:46 AM

Okay, so there's actually nothing the uniform rules that requires that. That's just really a staff decision to do a full

CommentKatie CohenProposed · by introduction1:46:11 · ≈ 10:46 AM

parcel

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:46:11 · ≈ 10:46 AM

evaluation?

CommentKatie CohenProposed · by introduction1:46:12 · ≈ 10:46 AM

It's a code requirement I mean it's in order to make the finding to issue the land use permit we have to make sure that we don't have violations on the property.

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:46:22 · ≈ 10:46 AM

And Supervisor Nelson through the chair, the Agricultural Preserve Advisory Committee. The agenda is stated in there that the contract is also assessed while looking at that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:46:34 · ≈ 10:46 AM

That's what I understand. Yes, I think is what I'm trying to get behind that because that causes a significant amount of delay and projects and processing because something that's just a basic zoning clearance can turn into a full blown deep dive into your parcel. And so what it does is it creates I'm going to go ahead and open it up for public comment. So I guess my question for staff is if the board wanted to give direction at some point in the future to narrowly evaluate through the APAC, what would be the process that we would need to give staff so that they didn't evaluate these things in such a complex way moving forward? Because I really think that's one of our problems. Is that every time you go in for a permit It becomes a much more intense process.

And that's what I've heard and I've actually experienced with the Agri-Preserve Advisory Committee is it takes something simple like a zoning clearance that should be relatively an over-the-counter permit, and can turn that into a six-, nine-month or a yearlong process because you're trying to continue to work with the AgriPreserve Advisory Committee to get it right so that you can get your contract kind of trued up.

Meanwhile, everybody else out there that doesn't apply for a permit doesn't have to do that. And it seems to be an unequal process and an impediment to timely processing of permits.

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CommentKatie CohenProposed · by introduction1:48:16 · ≈ 10:48 AM

Supervisor Nielsen through the chair, I think that's a broader question just about how the Williamson Act is administered. And the board can certainly provide direction. Planning and development is just one member on the Ag Preserve Advisory Committee so if the board wanted to give We have to and I'm not a 100% clear on. What direction you would be interested in providing it sounds to me like you do not want an assessment of the contracts.

Whether they're complying with their contract when they come in for something

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:48:56 · ≈ 10:48 AM

totality so what you know again and enterprise ordinance issue may be a big property right you can have lots of use under vineyard orchard, farmhouse Before permits, some that are after permits. And so you want to come in and do maybe a use that's now been recently allowed through the Ag Enterprise Ordinance. But frankly now because you're going to go through with that, you need to get your contract up-to-date. So having it all looked at. So zoning clearance for something, maybe a small use can become much more complex because of the way that we administer that And I think if I heard you correctly, that's just a practice. It's not actually in the uniform rules to do that.

And I want to figure out a way if the board eventually wants to give some kind of direction. I mean, I'm just one supervisor at this point with this idea. But we wanted to have you guys more narrowly focus that so that permits are more streamlined in the future. How would we go about doing that?

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CommentKatie CohenProposed · by introduction1:50:03 · ≈ 10:50 AM

Supervisor Neill through the chair, I'm just sort of thinking through what it is you're hoping to achieve. I mean, I think I guess the question is when somebody comes in with a use should there be a process to determine that their that use doesn't cause them to be in conflict with their contract? Right. That's the question I think you're asking. Absolutely.

And if the board does not want an assessment of whether contracts are still valid. That's I guess the discretion of the board.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:50:42 · ≈ 10:50 AM

I don't think it's that we don't want to know that but what triggers that is really what the question is here and just because someone wants to do it, you know expand a use on the property that has compliant with uniform rules. Do we want to now open this up

CommentKatie CohenProposed · by introduction1:50:58 · ≈ 10:50 AM

Well, if we if the use came in and it was clear that it conformed with the uniform rules. It wouldn't be a long process for them. It would be a short process. But if there were questions about whether or not like like I mean we have the letter from Sunstone right? There's a question about that and how much acreage is planted so that's a little bit more complex right

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:51:18 · ≈ 10:51 AM

but there's a perfect example actually because

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CommentKatie CohenProposed · by introduction1:51:30 · ≈ 10:51 AM

So what my understanding is, they brought the contract forward. They came forward with a use and Stephanie can explain it in more detail but I have the rough picture of what happened and there was a question about an area that had been taken out of Vineyard. And while they have not brought forward an application for the campground that they're interested in yet, they have indicated that they want that campground in the area that is currently fallow. And so when the committee looked at it, they said wow well you're already so small and your site is already so constrained we are thinking that that area ought to be planted as part of your prime contract They have not requested a firm formal determination on that so at this point the committee is said that areas fallow.

That's fine that it's fallowed you're in compliance with your contract and the issue will come back when they come in for their campground application.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:52:29 · ≈ 10:52 AM

So using the campground would then drop them below a necessary threshold to be in their uniform rules, and then you guys would issue a non-compliance at that point?

CommentKatie CohenProposed · by introduction1:52:37 · ≈ 10:52 AM

Then there would be a recommendation for a non renewal And that's in in a circumstance like that and it so I mean there there might be direction from the board to say hey maybe we want to amend the uniform rules on how we calculate that 50%. Because that is a case that's made in the letter.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:53:02 · ≈ 10:53 AM

Well, I guess that comes to another you know there's some of this that's in uniform rules it's interpretation right and discretion. And some of its pretty clear cut right? Some of these and I guess that's when we go into deliberations here early at the very end I'll have some other comments about that because I think that does post some questions on where that discretion belongs.

And so whether that should be with staff or whether that should be at the board, I know you guys are advisory but frankly not everybody on that is an ag expert right? Well I think really only one and a half or two are really ag experts and others come from different skill sets and so maybe the board should be thinking about that as we move forward with the future of Ag Preserve in our county.

CommentKatie CohenProposed · by introduction1:53:44 · ≈ 10:53 AM

Yeah, and if if the surprise Nelson to the chair of the board wanted things that were more. Objective standard like an objective standard like you take the area in constraint and you subtracted out and then you know we could do something like that or is that this particular rule

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:54:10 · ≈ 10:54 AM

Okay let's go to public comment now.

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.691:54:13 · ≈ 10:54 AM

Chair Kaps and members of the board we have one request to speak from the public on this item, we're going to remain here in Santa Maria with Claire Weinman.

PresenterClaire WinemanGrower Shipper Association of Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo countiesProposedself-stated1:54:30 · ≈ 10:54 AM

Hi, good morning. My name is Claire Wineman and I'm the president of the Grower Shipper Association of Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties. I'd like to briefly speak in support of the importance of having the option to assess properties based on their agricultural value rather than their open market value. One could view that it's a policy decision on fundamental valuation rather than a subsidy per se.

The program is utilized throughout the county And as an important piece of maintaining the vitality and diversity of agriculture in Santa Barbara County. I'd also like to point out that the Agricultural Advisory Committee is a great resource for countywide agricultural representation, as well. Thank you for your time and support of the Williamson Act program in Santa Barbara County Agriculture.

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PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.691:55:16 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Thank you. And that concludes public comment on this item.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.741:55:20 · ≈ 10:55 AM

Any other comments or questions from the board?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.911:55:24 · ≈ 10:55 AM

I have a comment. I just want to say, I think this is when you think about a program that started Wow almost 60 years ago. It's a really great program that still really balances a tax break for allowing us to continue with agriculture and open space. I would hope that those that don't fill out their applications would get on board and start doing that, I think that'd be helpful for all of us but I didn't want the meeting to go by without commenting on you know It's a really great tool for us. And I'm disappointed that the state stopped with the subvention, but it is what it is and I thought the number was a lot larger looking back at 2010 when we had a $70 million, $45 million budget deficit, $765,000 was a lot of money and it still is. But I actually thought it was greater than that so I just think it's a really cool program appreciate all the people that continue to make it work for us.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.891:56:39 · ≈ 10:56 AM

Supervisor Hartman yeah I had my meeting with our agricultural commissioner and learned some news about what the wine industry and grape industry is facing and I don't want to steal his thunder about the crop report but I just wonder as you have to Vines out, can you just walk me through how long it can be fallow or what happens when a crop is under real stress and you've got to maybe take acres and acres out of production.

And that's been your business model. Can you elaborate on that?

GuestStephanie StarkAgricultural CommissionerProposedself-stated1:57:25 · ≈ 10:57 AM

Yeah, Supervisor Hartman through the chair. If somebody is you know ag is very fluid it changes by you know economics so it's written into the Williamson Act and thereby through the uniform rules that fallow periods or even you know could be years they're still trying to determine what the next step is people put in like pollination crops or crop sometimes too You know, put more nutrition into the soil or nitrification or what have you just to maybe even keep the dust down. And that's not something that we typically get into the business of it's just part of agriculture.

CommentKatie CohenProposed · by introduction1:58:13 · ≈ 10:58 AM

Madam Chair, one thing I wanted to address from Supervisor Nelson's question about the Ag Enterprise Ordinance. We are mending our code so that for a zoning clearance for people who are coming in under the AEO we will just be focusing on that area of the property.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:58:32 · ≈ 10:58 AM

And that's great news and I think it's what we're hoping happens here but you know Outside the AEO, I've been as a former staff member and as supervisor. And I have a lot of agricultural areas in my district. I've wrestled with APAC with some of my constituents over the years and some frustrations over how it interacts with process And the discretion that sometimes that APAC has and you know, APAC is really just staff members that actually need to interpret our legislation. And then we have to give them another role of doing some discretionary interpretation And I know some counties, and actually the Ag Commissioner helped me out a little bit with this. But I have a chart that is now on the record here of the different APAC programs in some of our neighboring counties, Ventura, San Luis, and Monterey, and how they do it.

Some of the other counties actually have appointed members to their APAC by Board of Supervisors. You know, I think that when policy should be coming from the board and staff should be interpreting The legislation and I think when there's issues of that are beyond. Just implementing the uniform rules, I think it really should be a board that is a little bit more connected to agriculture. And I know you guys are in APAC just by the nature of what you guys are doing but you're kind of ag adjacent exception of Stephanie, of course. But I would like to see a little bit more participation in the APAC decision making body from actually agriculturalists. They're the ones that are seeing the evolution in real time and I think can actually provide better feedback and advice to the Board As an advisory board there and I think that that would actually make things go smoother in the future.

So, um, I know it's not on the agenda today but i'm going to be working on some potential changes uniform rule to bring back to the board for further discussion about what that makeup might be and some of the discretion that that body might have in the future so I'll leave with that.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.742:00:34 · ≈ 11:00 AM

Thank you. I just, I also too like Supervisor Lavigny, you know, I really appreciated this overview to understand more what this is and I'm fully supportive of the program we are in Agriculture County and we need to make sure that continues and this is I'm sure one of the reasons why it does. It doesn't sit well with me though the 60% as I indicated earlier of compliance and I'd like to find out more on that perhaps that's what you're going to look into Supervisor Nelson You know, is it are they not turning in the form because of its kind of a nitpicky process? Are they not turning them form because I mean, I'm just wondering looking at the fact that budgets are so tight. How much more property tax would we get what would we have if it was 100% compliant And so I would hope I understand that this is just a report to understand more the act and not necessarily direction but I would hope that we move in the direction of compliance.

I also just don't like the signal it sends those who might be listening and participating here that you know those who are complying that they probably aren't aware We're going to try to move it in the right direction. However, we can so. I'll entertain a motion

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed2:01:49 · ≈ 11:01 AM

or make a recommendation to receive a file and that this is not a project under secret second.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.742:01:55 · ≈ 11:01 AM

Okay all those in favor please say aye. Okay, we're just talking about lunch but

let's move on to item number three. Mental

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.692:14:10 · ≈ 11:14 AM

health services annual update. Chair Kaps and members of the board departmental item number three is from the Behavioral Wellness Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Mental Health Services Act 3-year program and expenditure plan annual update for fiscal year 2025 through 2026

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CommentNoah BolandProposed · by introduction2:14:33 · ≈ 11:14 AM

Thank you very much. Good morning chair caps supervisors County staff Tony Navarro director of behavioral wellness here today with Suzanne grimacee public information officer and our chief of strategy and community engagement Chris Ribeiro unfortunately is not feeling well today so he's joining us by phone should we need him to jump in or there be any questions.

We're here today to present to you on the Mental Health Services Act, the final program plan expenditure report and annual update for what has been termed the Mental Health Services Act in 2000... wait a minute let me make sure I'm... there we go In November of 2004 in California we voted in what was fondly been called the millionaire's tax and voted in that 1% over every dollar made over a million dollars would go directly to behavioral health services in the state of California. And for the past 20 years, we have created comprehensive systems of care from prevention through to housing transition support and long-term recovery for the residents of California.

We are in our 7th three-year plan every 3 years per the legislation there's a comprehensive three year spending plan of the dollars with an annual update to be conducted every year as well so we are in our 7th three-year plan and the final year. Of that three-year plan, of course mhsa will transition to behavioral health services act in July of 26 and you'll hear a little bit about that at the end from Suzanne grimacing So today we're here to present to you the final plan.

Currently, Mental Health Service Act funding is divided into five buckets of spending the community services and supports bucket which is all of our intensive treatment programs including clinic based as well as in the community and early intervention bucket programming workforce education and training capital facilities technology. And these are funds that can be utilized to help the system, the electronic health record other parts of the technology system for the Department of Behavioral Health to stay up on the reporting and data requirements of the state but also has been utilized to provide funding to build capital facilities over the last 20 years And Innovations is a program currently within MHSA that allows for counties to use up to 5% of their dollars to identify new and creative ways to meet the local needs of their community.

So for 2526, here is a graph and just if you want to say a few words about the plan budget for MHSA. So the total revenue expenditure for MHSA 2526 plan is just about 51 1⁄2 million dollars We expect just about $36 million under Mental Health Service Act for community services and supports this year. We anticipate excuse me, $34 million we anticipate just under $7 million for the Prevention early intervention funding and then just about 2.5 million dollars will be spent on innovation this year capital facilities and then what these expenditures represent just the MHS a portion of revenue that we will receive so this is a combination of what we anticipate based on the anticipated forecast of the budget from the millionaire's tax this year coming our way as well as dipping into our reserves as we head into this last year In particular, we have increased our spending in the prevention early intervention this last year as it will be the last year that we will have those funds available to us under prevention and want to make sure that we are capitalizing on those in our county this year.

To improve awareness education to improve access and utilization of our system of care moving forward. Related to you all in our budget hearings earlier this spring. This does not include the federal financial participation match that we receive from MediCal billable services under both the community services and supports or CSS portion and in some of our early intervention programs so while we are anticipating a utilization of just about I'm sorry. We're expecting a utilization of just about 15 million dollars in our.

And excuse me, yes, 15 million dollars from our reserves fund bucket this year out of mhsa we may not use that because we have not included in here what the federal financial participation match will be the budget is based on performance But again, as we have been addressing payment reform and increasing staff utilization and really increasing access in the utilization of our system by the public. We are seeing already an increase in revenues this year and anticipate that we will use less of those reserve fund balance than expected So every year in the annual plan update as well as in the 3 year plan.

The law requires that we have a community engagement process known as the community planning process under mhsa and what I meant with that is is a very extensive outreach and engagement process through a variety of community events. We are It's an opportunity for the state to engage a variety of different diverse and target populations throughout our county representing the full continuum of residents in our county business and County and private and nonprofit partners.

We go over the plan, the three-year plan with the identified priorities and we review the previous year's accomplishments of each of the programs and the funding. And with community partners then we identify new areas of focus and or additional funds should we have them to expand and fortify the services to meet the needs of our stakeholders. We have a variety of stakeholder sessions as well that are some are very targeted and our identify specific group for instance, a Pacific specific population.

Other active other engagement and outreach events include a range of public coming together to bring diverse ideas in one meeting we also gather feedback through in person through surveys and online as well as in-person events and For the past 30 days, the MHSA plan has been posted on our website for people to read and to give us feedback. And we have been doing since the plan was finalized. We've been doing kind of a roadshow if you will and we get feedback from the community on that incorporate those into the final plan.

So in the 2526 planning process this past year. These are the top 5 priorities that were that rose to the top from the stakeholders and I'll just this is just the overview of them and Suzanne grimace he's going to go into a little more detail here in the next slides, but the top priorities and the full service partnership is our most intensive level of service. It's some have referred to it as a wraparound type and recovery services to persons in the community primarily. And folks are seen in that program a minimum of 2 times a week up to 7 times a week if needed, in order these are the folks who are most currently incapacitated by their symptoms and need the most support to stabilize and be able to then step down at some point in time to the lower levels of care into more independent functioning The second priority is about increasing timeliness and navigation for people coming into our system.

We've identified that through Our local emergency departments across the county, looking at folks who've been in 5150s that are not yet engaged with our system and really focusing on creating positions and roles and service delivery workflow to address those gaps to make sure that folks get connected with us as possible. To reduce revolving door and some of those higher cost services throughout the county.

We're going to be increasing again this final year of MHS a will be the final year that were funded for prevention mental health education and prevention programming so we're really hitting that hard this year in particular with youth and families. And then you'll see that we are implementing some programs specifically for older adults of course as we see that is the fastest growing population in need in our not just our state but particularly in our county for services both on the substance use delivery and mental health side And then of course the retention and recruitment and retention of our behavioral health workforce, including specified training in helping folks to feel as adept as possible with the populations were serving under the workforce education and training dollars that will no longer be under our local control.

We will have some opportunities at the state to participate in some workforce education and training monies that they will have but this will be the last year that we can really focus it particularly to the needs of our current workforce and community So now I'm going to turn it over to Suzanne.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:24:30 · ≈ 11:24 AM

Thank you Tony. Okay so we've had, we have a lot of program highlights but just to call out some. We have increased our assisted outpatient treatment staff with the goal of increasing our outreach efforts to engage more individuals who are eligible for the full service partnership programs We've created new peer assessment teams and the teams aim to maximize the use of peers in our system, recognizing the power of sharing stories from people with lived experience and really the dynamic impact that that makes on people engaging in care especially after hospitalizations.

We've expanded our access screening team. We joyfully have had a significant increase in call volume coming in since last November, it stayed high we've increased the team by about 30% or five staff and about half of those staff are bilingual so we feel really good about our ability to respond well to the community We've implemented new mental health education programs in MCSTEC for youth and families in North County, and that's through a partnership with MICOP, a combination of the Mental Health Services Act staff and our community engagement team. We've been able to offer trainings in MCSTEC on trauma-informed care, on resiliency, on mental health education, suicide awareness, and more.

And we've continued our Master's in Social Work Loan Repayment Program. So Behavioral Wellness funded up to $25,000 for four individuals this year that are pursuing their masters in social work and then we intend to do the same for next year and one more year so for a total of 12 individuals receiving those scholarships to pursue their education

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CommentNoah BolandProposed · by introduction2:26:20 · ≈ 11:26 AM

All right, I wanted to highlight. I previously miss this in my in my comments but not want to highlight that under the treatment committee services supports we currently fund approximately 18 programs and that's in that bucket and then the prevention early intervention combination of the 2 It's about 7 or 8 programs that we fund that are early intervention and approximately 12 that are prevention at this time. And so, that's about for a total of just under 40 programs that we provide under the Mental Health Services Act. I wanted to also highlight that in our stakeholder sessions this year, we looked at in our discussions with staff as well as the public really identified and per our state review really identified that underutilization of our system by the Hispanic and Latinx community.

And really also identified that the Mixtec population was particularly underserved in our system so really wanting to ensure that we fortified We're going to be working with those outreach and engagement programs this year as well as our own contracts and services to make sure that we meet the needs of the community and that folks feel and see that we are welcoming place. So I think that again, those 5 new bilingual staff on the access line has been a tremendous asset and we're already seeing search in the need for interpretation services across our system. So we're really glad to see that.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed2:27:59 · ≈ 11:27 AM

Okay and so for fiscal year 25, oops 25-26 some of the recommended MHSA changes. Keeping in mind this will be our last year before MHSA transitions to BHSA but the first is our changes in our full service partnership programs not so much with the intention of increasing client serve because having the low caseload as part of the fidelity but increasing our flow of services so that The individuals are getting individualized care based on their level of need and at the right time. And we're able to flow people that have lower levels of need to lower levels in the system, take more people into the higher levels of care in the full service partnership. So that's been a lot of our change efforts for FSPs.

changes in timeliness and navigation of services. So we've established a hospitalization role to help coordinate with post-hospitalization, post crisis care which is a critical time and we've expanded our homeless outreach and early intervention efforts And again, this is the last year of MHSA funding and the last time that we'll have or the last year that will have the same control over the services given the changes coming with BHSA.

So we're adding them to this year's MHSA plan to access as many people as we possibly can. Our changes for for youth and family mental health education and prevention programming. In the South County, currently Mental Wellness Center operates Mental Health Matters in the schools and provides the education broadly but we didn't have that same counterpart in Mid and North County so that's a part of the change through the LEAD program with Transitions Mental Health they're expanding the Mental Health 101 program So to be a counterpart part in Mid-North County. We've also enhanced our community staff suicide prevention training so very happy, very proud that we now have staff certified and providing what's called QPR question persuade refer which is a community based training and suicide prevention.

And in the few months since we've had our staff certified they have been out and about countywide providing this training all over in English and Spanish and Mixteco So it's available and if any of you would like to have or would like to point someone who could benefit from that, we're happy to have that. Our changes to mental health programs for older adults.

So we saw in our data in the fall, November of 2023 that our highest rates of death by suicide were among older adults. That data is not the same anymore which is great but we have expanded our outreach and education efforts surrounding older adults and where we're outreaching and providing education We have staff that are on the Adult and Aging Network and unrelated task forces directly connected to that.

We're supporting, as Tony said, our Latinx older adults through targeted stigma busting campaigns. And we're strengthening our cross-agency collaboration to improve our work with others on the Adult and Aging Network. And lastly, our changes to recruitment and retention. So across the nation behavioral health recruitment is a challenge so we're developing more lived experience roles mentorship programs and expanding the workforce pipeline all the way through down through high school students So changes under BHSA, we'd be remiss not to just mention this as we tie up the three-year plan for MHSA. So Proposition 1 passed by a narrow margin in March of 2024 and it signifies major shifts in the landscape of mental health services and substance use treatment throughout the state of California.

The proposition redefines the framework established by the Mental Health Services Act which occurred in 2004 and it's now rebranded or renamed the Behavioral Health Services Act. As Santa Barbara County gears up to comply with the BHSA regulations which will occur in July of 2026, it's important to note that this transition does not come with additional funding.

We'll navigate the task of expanding certain services while we redefine BHSA support for other programs including prevention initiatives, workforce support and primary treatment programs. The initial planning for the service adjustments has begun internally within behavioral wellness and a comprehensive planning process has actually already begun but is slated for July of 2025.

The implementation of the Behavioral Health Services Act will begin with the fiscal year 26-27 and then go on through a three-year plan through 28-29 Our current integrated planning process known as the Community Planning Process with Behavioral Health Services Act, as you can see on the slide involves a number of different ways to access input from the community.

While BHSA includes required guidelines, the community planning process also offers flexibility which is exciting. So counties can adapt the new CPP to reflect their county's unique needs and request adjustments to better align with local priorities and context so we're looking forward to that. And then just to give you a look at what our timeline looks like So right now we're currently in the process of determining the programs which are ineligible for BHSA funding given the shift in the regulations. We're engaging and numerous countless community listening sessions with various groups in the community when we move into the fall, we will be operating larger workshops that will include a variety of participants When we go into the winter, we will be distilling a large amount, we hope, of feedback that's been gained through these listening sessions and will help to determine the BHSA categories which program elements we can retain.

In January and February our fiscal budget will be developed for BHSA and our final program decisions will be entered into the integrated plan. As we move into the early spring, late winter the integrated plan will go to the CEO for approval. It will go to the state Department of Health Care Services and then April-June it will be posted for public comment and the final plan will be sent to DHSS on June 30th

CommentNoah BolandProposed · by introduction2:35:03 · ≈ 11:35 AM

Our intention is that in September, late September we will be back to the board to give you a more comprehensive overview of the shift from MHSA to BHSA. At that time we will also have a better idea of changes to budget expectations and anticipation because The governor's may revise will be approved by then and we'll have a better idea of you know, we initially on the previous slide. We talked about looking currently we anticipate a 10 million dollar change in funding from our treatment service programs.

And so we will have a better idea what that number looks like and also how we will be able to mitigate that as I said, we are doing working internally and a lot I want to point out that the draft integrated plan is a That second bullet point of sending the integrated plan also then to the Department of Health Care Services is not part of the legislative plan, but it is something that the state is thinking they want to add to ensure that the plans look the way they are hoping and anticipate them to look. That may change because that's really cutting it close to be able to make sure that we can bring it to the board for final approval and review and have it in place by July one. So that some of this is still in flux, which is another reason why we're waiting until September end of September to come to you all because there's still guidance from the state that is changing weekly as to how we are to execute some of the regulatory compliance issues in behavioral health transformation All right, that concludes our report today on the annual plan.

We are here for any questions and just asking you all to approve and adopt the three-year program expenditure plan annual update for the final time. Thank you.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.742:37:16 · ≈ 11:37 AM

Okay thank you so much to your both a lot of ground you covered. Questions or comments from the board? Supervisor Lee.

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.792:37:23 · ≈ 11:37 AM

More of a comment great report really comprehensive and I just want say thank you.

CommentNoah BolandProposed · by introduction2:37:29 · ≈ 11:37 AM

We would be remiss not to mention today of course Natalia Rossi, our MHSA manager is on a much deserved vacation. We actually had this presentation for later in the month and we changed it and so she was not able to be here today but huge kudos to her as she led her team Faye Ann Wooten and Nikesha Shoshone in the community planning process for 24-25. So they did a great job.

Yeah I was kind of wondering where

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.742:37:58 · ≈ 11:37 AM

she was so thank you, I appreciate that. Other questions from the board? Well, thank you. I have a couple. I just wanted to again. I really appreciate the emphasis on all the outreach that you've done and I've heard from my commissioners about that and of the new focus at least on seniors. I just want to make sure that you know as of late a lot of seniors are really mobilized especially those who live in mobile home parks so we have very strong contacts when So I just don't want you all to start from zero in terms of the outreach because I know that that's an M a newer emphasis here with this plan. One just offering that up. Yeah, they're thank you so very active and we know exactly who to go to for each one. I'm sure some president has the context as well and others.

So that's just one point. And then this is a broader topic. But in an earlier really focused on And I'm really excited to be able to hear from this pot of funding and kind of getting a sense I just want to raise that because an earlier administrative item earlier in the morning we approved funding for a contract with family service And so that just triggered me to think, OK, so where are we with these dollars? What's the really what's the relationship between county mental health services It's really a challenge and something we hear about all the time that there aren't enough services.

A flag for me was that referrals often don't, a referral service often doesn't pan out especially when you're dealing with younger folk kids who you know might get they might get a referral but that doesn't mean that they actually get the services so trying to bring those services in-house. So maybe you could just touch on my broad question of this program and the interaction with our schools.

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CommentNoah BolandProposed · by introduction2:40:24 · ≈ 11:40 AM

So I'm going to give you a really wide angle answer, and then I'm going to toss it to Katie Cohen. This is Director Katie Cohen because she oversees those programs and has been instrumental in getting us into the school system since her beginning with us just over two-and-a-half years ago. The Mental Health Service Act prevention early intervention dollars of course have always been available to utilize for this purpose and throughout our system of care we've had pockets of utilizing early intervention dollars with, for instance the START program in Carpinteria, Santa Barbara Unified and now Goleta and Buellton Unified School Districts where we contract with CBOs to provide therapists and our caseworkers to identify children who may be experiencing those early signs and symptoms of mental health, really trying to be a buffer to avoid them from getting into the more intensive system of care and having more educational failure.

We also have in the past three years we've really invested a lot more money into education programs around suicide prevention, around mental health awareness And really trying to bring awareness to the families and to the children of how to utilize and access care. It's not something that we had previously been focused on, so we really have spent a lot of dollars on that. And then Katie Cohen can talk about another program that we've been able to capitalize on where we're going.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:41:47 · ≈ 11:41 AM

Yeah, thanks Director Navarro. So it's a little complicated with all the different funding streams but a lot changing in the landscape right now and coming up with how the state is gearing up to cover the range of needs so with this MHSA funding specifically like Director Navarro said really focusing on those that aren't necessarily our level of care maybe aren't necessarily Medi-Cal but are needing that early intervention and prevention to be able to connect to the right services.

So, the additional program that we've been able to add with grant funding is our M-Well which is Mental Wellness Education and Linkages Program that has been able through a partnership with SBCEO partner with certain school districts to be able to take referrals for a range of needs it didn't matter what level of mental health We're looking for strategies utilizing what's coming with BHSA and all of these different Initiatives, CYBHI is another one of those of how we can continue to partner with schools and our CBOs to meet the range of needs the best that we can. So lots of different avenues that we're exploring and trying to capitalize on to make sure those needs are met.

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CommentNoah BolandProposed · by introduction2:43:19 · ≈ 11:43 AM

CYBHI's Child Youth Behavioral Health Integrated Plan initiative, which is about providing school districts as well as universities the opportunity to become Medi-Cal certified themselves and provide services as part of their school services to the public. I also did want to say that one of the things that we're really excited about, and we've been pushing and talking about this for the last couple years as we know BHSA was coming and things were headed down the pike. Really encouraging our partners to become mild-to-moderate providers under CENCAL so they can provide that prevention and early intervention level of care even if dollars go away from County Behavioral Health and we're happy to report I'm so excited to be here. It's been a long time coming and it's been great to be able to be part of this.

FSA, Family Service Agency as well as Casa Pacifica are now mild to moderate providers and intend to do their services in the schools. I think that CENCAL has been a really good partner. Executive Director Marina Owen and I have been really thinking about and planning for what's going to happen next year and especially in our child

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.742:44:34 · ≈ 11:44 AM

That's great. So just to fill it out for me, would you say that this funding Mental Health Services Act is somehow either through a provider or partner nonprofit partner in every school in our county?

CommentNoah BolandProposed · by introduction2:44:48 · ≈ 11:44 AM

Or most?

CommentKatie CohenProposed · by introduction2:44:50 · ≈ 11:44 AM

No.

CommentNoah BolandProposed · by introduction2:44:51 · ≈ 11:44 AM

I think the challenge and the difficulty with services like this, we do serve some other schools as well with our substance use disorder education and we do a lot in ODS so that's very exciting as well but I think part of the challenge of doing any school-based service which we saw early on in the 90s when we started healthy families program was the first And so one of the things that we do as a board when we venture into the schools is the schools balancing children being taken out of class for services versus needing them in class to learn right and so it's always a challenge and having the right space for them. So there are increasingly I think there are other schools now that are also looking and SBCEO is hoping to encourage schools to apply to become Medi-Cal providers and hire within their own staffing or contract out with our CBOs or ourselves to provide services in the schools for these, for their children ongoing.

So they will be able to bill Medi-Cal billable services themselves. It won't have to go through a county behavioral health department.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.742:46:00 · ≈ 11:46 AM

That's helpful. Again, I just the emphasis on prevention there is no better way to do it than through our schools but I also understand the challenges with that so I'll ask more questions later next time we meet but I really appreciate it. Other questions or comments? We can go to public comment then. Chair Kapsch and members of the board we have no requests to speak from the public on this item.

Okay, well this is an annual report. I think we heard a lot and I'm happy to make the motion to let's see make sure I have the numbers. Is it A through C? A and B?

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:46:35 · ≈ 11:46 AM

I'll second.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.742:46:36 · ≈ 11:46 AM

Okay all those in favor please say aye.

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction2:46:39 · ≈ 11:46 AM

Aye.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.742:46:40 · ≈ 11:46 AM

Thank you. And

let's move on to item number 4, which is the Care Act update and SB 43 presentation.

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PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.692:46:55 · ≈ 11:46 AM

Chair Kaps and members of the board, departmental item number four is from the Behavioral Wellness Department as well as the Treasurer Tax Collector Public Administrator. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a Community Assistance Recovery and Empowerment Care Act update in Senate Bill 43 SB 43 presentation and notice to implement on July 1st 2025.

CommentNoah BolandProposed · by introduction2:47:18 · ≈ 11:47 AM

Good morning Chair Kaps, Supervisors and County Staff. Here we are again Tony Navarro Director of Behavioral Wellness joined by Assistant Director of Behavioral Wellness Katie Cohen and Public Guardian Arlene Diaz so we are here to give you an update on the CARE Act as well as Senate Bill 43. So we're going to start with the CARE Act and Katie Cohen is going to give you that presentation

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed2:47:43 · ≈ 11:47 AM

Thank you Director Navarro. Thank you Chair Kaps, Board and County staff for inviting us to share this update on the implementation of CARE Act in Santa Barbara County also known as CARE Court. CARE is a true cross-departmental and community collaborative involving BWILL, the courts, public defender, county council, public guardian, law enforcement, NAMI, Community Services Department, probation, and County Executive Office.

A brief overview of the legislation that was signed by Governor Newsom in 2022. As was stated, CARE Act stands for Community Assistance Recovery and Empowerment Act. CARE Act is a voluntary program to provide support to individuals with untreated psychotic disorders who may also be experiencing a co-occurring substance abuse disorder. Santa Barbara County implemented the CARE program six months ago on December 1st, 2024 as a member of the cohort two group of counties to go live.

And next slide please. As of May 2025, our CARE Act program has received 17 petitions from three categories of referral sources. Public Guardian has submitted nine petitions, seven petitions were received from family members and we've received our first referral from the Department of State Hospitals known as DSH I think last month. The majority of our initial Care Act petitions have been for the purpose of supporting conservatees in stepping down to a less restrictive level of care.

While this is an authorized utilization of care in the legislation, Santa Barbara County was unique in utilizing care proactively in this way compared to the counties who had implemented care before us in Cohort 1. While only six months into the program, some early successes have included three individuals completing voluntary care agreements in collaboration with the Care Act team. And in the next couple of weeks we'll be transitioning two individuals who are currently in care to our La Posada housing that has beds earmarked with BHBH funding for prioritized placement for those in care.

In addition to individual successes, one of the most positive impacts of CARE Act thus far has been the strengthening of relationships across departments and with the community in meeting consistently and collaborating in creative ways to try to address the range of needs that a very specific subset of individuals with severe mental illness are experiencing.

And as we look forward to the continued development of the program, we're hopeful we'll get to begin envisioning what graduations from the program may entail for those successful after a year in the program. Thank you again for the opportunity to share progress thus far in CARE Act and with that I'll pass the presentation back on to Director Navarro and Public Service Division Chief Arlene Diaz from Public Guardian's office to share a related initiative about to launch which is SB 43.

CommentNoah BolandProposed · by introduction2:50:47 · ≈ 11:50 AM

Okay, great. So we're bringing together CARE Act as well as SB 43 to you together at the same time they were both legislative mandates required of our county and they actually are service adjacent if you will and they serve the population served overlaps and it may be that there are folks who will be served instead Senate Bill 43 that will end up being referred to CARE Act and so again I think that this is The update is coming to you today to demonstrate how all the services that we are being asked to implement in the county, how they are meant to interact and work in a flow adjacently not against each other and not at odds nor in silos. So with that I'm going to turn it over to Arlene Diaz.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed2:51:38 · ≈ 11:51 AM

Okay so Hello, okay. None of this is new. Y'all have seen all this before so I'll be quick but if you have questions please feel free. So SB 43 was signed into law by Governor Newsom in October of 2023 and it was set to start January of 2024. It significantly expands The definition of the LPS Act, who qualifies and the conditions that make them eligible. And so this was something that to be able to implement it immediately was not realistic in my opinion which is why we came.

This now allows not only a person to qualify under the LPS Act for involuntary hold for having a mental health disorder but also for having severe substance use disorder or SUD. It also expands the criteria from just, not just inability to provide food clothing and shelter but also for personal safety and the ability to receive necessary medical care. It also allows health records to be used as evidence in LPS conservatorship proceedings, which changes the laws of evidence a bit. It expands grave disability definition and functionally allows people to be placed on 5150's and other involuntary holds based on severe substance use disorder. Next slide.

So this is the checklist of the old and the new. You can see the green checklists, checks are highlighted of what changed so in addition to mental health diagnosis as a basis for grave disability standalone substance use disorder and or co-occurring in addition to food clothing and shelter it also person's inability due to mental health diagnosis or substance use disorder or both from their ability to access their necessary medical care, which is defined as something that's likely to result in serious bodily injury or death as the basis for grave disability. And also the inability to provide for their personal safety or to survive safely without involuntary detention or treatment as the basis for grave disability.

Next slide. So the LPS Act starts at 5150 and goes through conservatorship. And so this is kind of the basics. So there's a 5150 hold, and at that time the person either resolves or they go on a different hold A psychiatrist or an ER doctor decides that they may be appropriate for conservatorship and a referral for public guardian to investigate is generated from that.

We do an initial LPS petition for a temporary conservatorship, and the sole purpose of that is to investigate whether or not they meet the legal criteria for LPS conservatorship. At the initial hearing, the TCON is granted temporary conservatorship, and then that's where the public guardian gets their authority to investigate because normally you don't get to just go in and look at people's medical and psychiatric records.

30 days after that initial t-con, there's another hearing that's held. Investigation is done in that time and the public guardian makes that recommendation to the court whether conservatorship is warranted or not. The individual is represented by counsel generally it's the public defender and the judge makes the decision based on evidence The person does have the opportunity to have a jury or court trial. And if that's the case, then a jury or the judge makes it makes a decision based on the evidence in those hearings.

If the conservatorship is granted, the judge makes the decision on who most appropriate conservator should be and that conservatorship lasts one year. At six months, the individual has the opportunity to ask for a rehearing about whether they still meet criteria for grave disability or if they are in the least restrictive placement which is legally required by the conservator.

During that year term, the behavioral wellness long-term care team follows all those who are out of county. We have quite a few and ensures their appropriate care, provides advice and support to the public guardian's office. We are not clinicians. They are. And so we work very closely with them. We have several meetings a week with them. And anyone who is based in county, they are also followed by their in-county full service partnership team.

There's also budgets that we work on together and liaisons between the contracted providers. Okay, next slide. Budget impacts. Public Guardian had a fiscal impact. We were allowed to hire three staff. Those three staff have been hired are doing an excellent work so far. Behavioral wellness we utilized existing resources and the further impact for both departments will be evaluated as the programs progress.

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CommentNoah BolandProposed · by introduction2:57:31 · ≈ 11:57 AM

So beginning in January 2024, the California Behavioral Health Directors Association partnered with the Public Guardians Association of California and has been meeting on initially a bimonthly basis and now just about every other month for updates. There were three counties that initially opted in at the start of Senate Bill 43 in 2024. And since that time there have been a few others that onboarded in just the last few months During that time from January 2024 in those meetings, we all met collectively and we were learning about how the counties of SLO and in particular San Francisco and San Luis Obispo were being impacted by the implementation of Senate Bill 43. We learned a lot from them and one of the things that we did learn of course is that many folks that the biggest impact to the budget and to the change was in the public guardian's office.

That there was an increase in the request for conservatorships need for evaluations and the ongoing care. So therefore, we had come to you all on the board and approved the expanded positions for Public Guardian which puts us now in a position to again one of the checking off one of the boxes for us to be ready to implement. So today what we have done aside from the statewide partnership and learning the lessons getting training guides and things from slow our team John John Winkler who's here in the back has been working with his team he is overseas as branch chief overseeing our crisis services and those who do are 5150 evaluations as well as our 5150 training in the county of Santa Barbara. And so we've been working really closely was slow and and learning from them but In addition to that we we have done over 30 presentations with our local partners law enforcement the hospitals.

Some of the you know with our be well Commission and others to to educate them about Senate bill 43 to understand what is expected what is not and preparing the group for that So I'm going to go ahead and get started. Most importantly with Senate bill 43 as we expand the definition of who can be placed on a 5150 we had to think about where can you play someone with a substance use disorder because there is no federally, there is no place under MediCal that you can actually put someone involuntarily and receive 1238 and I'm sorry that I didn't write that down. I thought I had it in my head as soon as they went to say it, I lost it isn't there OK there. Good thank you Senate bill 1250 was right good Senate bill 1238 was passed what 1238 did in California it allowed for psychiatric health facilities to be used for the involuntary placement of persons who have a substance use disorder only diagnosis It does not allow for us to get reimbursed for that care, but it does allow for us to place them in our puff before the three-day hold.

What comes along with that is that by January of 2026 we must have in place specific programming and training of staff in order to meet the needs of folks with substance use disorder only diagnoses. We are actually in the process of updating our policies and we'll be taking those to our psychiatric health facility PUF governing board in June for approval. So our policies about allowing those folks to be held in our PUF will be completed. Similarly, we already provide medication-assisted treatment within our PUF which is the primary treatment you must provide in order to have people staying at your PUF so we're already on track to receive folks who are substance use disorder only in our system. So therefore, as we look at that Arlene has the office space thank you to the CEO's office right for finding that extra office space and we have those extra public guardians hired We've completed training with our emergency department doctors at both Cottage and Marion.

We're also working with the Lompoc Regional Medical Center. We've done the specific 5150 training with those who are authorized to write holds under our system, but what we've also expanded and what John Winkler is What we are doing now between now and July one is training the emergency room nurses across our systems as well and the social workers for them to understand this new law and how they might then be partners with us in addressing the needs of this population in a different way. This has been very successful for slow County and we're bringing that to us on Marion has participated And then of course we have within our own system of care, making sure that we have the specialized SUD training at the Puff for all staff.

But more importantly what this has done in again in adjacent to and in conjunction with preparing for Behavioral Health Service Act for the Care Act and others. We've done some extensive training on substance use disorder identification care treatment and referral to programs such as Care Act and SB 43 within our own systems of care And we will continue to have ongoing presentations and trainings with our CBO's and others as requested.

So our implementation timeline. Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Barbara County Board of Supervisors. We originally came to you and said you know the act allowed the law allowed us to postpone until January 2026 but we committed to going sooner if we could at this point we are really on track and as you can see, we've secured the additional office space. The staff is here. We're really starting to and I have to tell Thank you for that update. Any questions from the board?

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.743:04:08 · ≈ 12:04 PM

Supervisor Nelson.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:04:09 · ≈ 12:04 PM

Yes, thank you and thank you for the presentation all your hard work and getting here earlier I know as one of those is pushing for us to implement sooner. County annual meetings and it's, you know, scenes with some of these other counties are going through in preparation. I think Stanislaus was one of them and maybe Tuolumne or I think some of those others that were out there.

Sacramento. Sacramento yeah so that hopefully we're gonna learn from their mistakes but also what are the successes you're hearing from them? Are they any stories that can be encouraging for us

CommentNoah BolandProposed · by introduction3:04:48 · ≈ 12:04 PM

Well I think that in working and another reason why this presentation together works really well is it really identifying that you know though we have folks who may end up on conservatorship, we now are also creating a system of care where we can step them down more easily. So again you know there's been a history of when folks are on conservatorship that sometimes they just kind of languish in there and then we don't have the services and the resources to be We've had a number of folks that have come to us and we've been evaluating them as intensely are following them as much as possible to provide the service but with care act and S P 43 together. I think those things The biggest success story of Senate Bill 43, though, is that it's not the mountain of cases that everybody anticipated.

It's not the flash flood that everyone anticipated to be and that the reality is that many of the folks that we are seeing in our 5150s do have intensive co-occurring disorders. So again 1238 is a wonderful adjunct to the care and services we will provide in our PUF. We'll be adding an alcohol and drug specialist to that team. And so we'll be able to handle the majority of folks in that way And I think just overall getting people the medical help they need. I think we're seeing, we're hearing from our county partners that the folks that they are ending up holding or longer are those who have serious medical issues that without attention they would, they are imminently at risk of premature death.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:06:19 · ≈ 12:06 PM

Yeah thank you for that. You know and I think You know, we're all concerned about civil liberties and not wanting to invade that. But obviously there's some of those people in our community that have gone whether it's something that you know was they were born with or something that occurred throughout their life if they need help in a place where we need to step in and serve them. And I think they're also often some of our highest utilizers of our services. You know I think it was Malcolm Gladwell that had the article about the Million Dollar Murray that they had where one user that was So much money was going towards serving that person and we just kind of chasing that down. And I really hope that us getting our arms around this is one of those tools, we're gonna be able to deal with some of our highest utilizers of our system so that we can make sure that we have as much resources possible to serve as many people as possible.

So again, I'm excited about this. I absolutely support this getting started on July 1st and so when we're ready, I am happy to make that motion.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:07:17 · ≈ 12:07 PM

Thank you, Supervisor Harmon. Well I'm very supportive of this too. I mean there are people who can't make good decisions for themselves and they keep going around cycling in our system and not getting any better. Whenever you do take away civil liberties though you've got to get the courts involved. And I was interested to know that under the CARE Act at least they can request a judge and jury trial. How often does that happen?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed3:07:48 · ≈ 12:07 PM

Actually it's under LPS law. So care is voluntary, so LPS they are always represented and we very often have court trials which is where evidence is provided to the judge and I think I've been in the public guardian's office since 2002 and I believe we've had four jury trials in that time so it's fairly rare

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:08:13 · ≈ 12:08 PM

And so I guess what's underlying my question is how much we have behavioral wellness and our social services, and now we've kind of layered on the legal system. And when that happens that can be a lot of resources invested there in protecting people's rights and procedures and public defender. So can you give me any sense of how that's working?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed3:08:44 · ≈ 12:08 PM

It's working fantastic. We're very blessed that we have Judge Colleen Stern overseeing, she's overseen LPS for quite some time. She also oversees AOT and CareCourt. She's very enthusiastic about the integrated care she cares deeply for our clients as we do and so it's between Be Well, The Public Guardian, and The Public Defender in the court system it's been a very A seamless and easy collaboration.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:09:17 · ≈ 12:09 PM

Well that is good to hear, and one reason is that we do have a judge, Judge Stern who's specialized and understands these processes and even just the language.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed3:09:28 · ≈ 12:09 PM

I mean it is an adversarial system in a sense but we are all looking out for what's in our client's best interest

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:09:35 · ≈ 12:09 PM

Thank you. And I do hope you'll be collecting some testimonials or stories about successes as this launches and congratulations six months ahead of schedule that's really unheard of given everything else behavioral wellness has coming at it right now so it's an extraordinary achievement

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.743:09:59 · ≈ 12:09 PM

Yeah, I'll weigh in on that. Oftentimes when we delay things then it often follows other delays so it's remarkable to hear that we're ahead of schedule and things are working really well. We heard earlier from Lynn Gibbs from NAMI and I understand that NAMIs really stepped up to volunteer and walk people through the petition process. And just for layman's terms if you can explain what that petition process is like?

I'm sure it's a very sensitive time and the processes are meticulously thought through. Yeah,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed3:10:34 · ≈ 12:10 PM

thank you Chair Caps. So NAMI has taken the lead in staffing office hours weekly so that they can help support families who are considering filing a petition. I think we quickly learned that is a really hard situation, especially if the petition doesn't meet qualifications to proceed in care. And then what is the feedback loop to the families? So having NAMI in place to be able to provide support throughout that process and ensure that there is a feedback loop so families aren't left wondering what happened has been really important. And also I think we pivoted and made sure We were offering that be well can be the petitioner on behalf of families as the legislation calls out, but really operationalizing the workflow for that. So that if families are feeling concerned about being the petitioner they can provide information necessary for be well to file on their behalf.

And then kind of be removed from that legal part of the process and be more of a support for their family member. So we've been able to kind of pivot as those situations come up, to ensure that we really are keeping what's in the client and families best interest at heart as we navigate the implementation of a program new to all of us and involving like you heard a lot of partners.

That's great, that's helpful.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.743:11:59 · ≈ 12:11 PM

And they provide support in English and Spanish. Thanks to NAMI. So I guess we'll go see if there is any public comment. Madam

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.693:12:08 · ≈ 12:12 PM

Clerk? Chair Kapsen, members of the board, we have no requests to speak from the public on this item.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.743:12:13 · ≈ 12:12 PM

Okay well it looks as though we can move this forward. Anyone would like to make a motion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:12:19 · ≈ 12:12 PM

Yeah I would be honored to make the motion on this to go ahead and I'm trying to make up the actual language here One second, so make sure I have it right. Adopt staff recommendation A through D? Second.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.743:12:37 · ≈ 12:12 PM

Okay we have a motion and a second all those in favor please say aye. Aye. Motion passes now given the time I think we'll move to closed session County Council will you please read us the items that will be considering today

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:12:54 · ≈ 12:12 PM

Thank you, Madam Chair and members of the board. The Board's meeting in closed session. The first item is the Board sitting as the Board of Santa Barbara County Public Authority for In-Home Supportive Services. The employee organization is United Domestic Workers of America Local 3930. And the agency designated representatives are CEO Mona Miyasato and Social Services Director Daniel Nielsen.

There's also two items of conference with real property negotiators The first is assessor's parcel number 105-020-060-061 and 062. Agency negotiators are General Services Director Kirk Lagerquist, and negotiating party Leonard Knight and Matthew Knight. The next property is Assessor's Personal Number 105-020-063 and 064. Again, the agency negotiator is General Services Director Kirk Lagerquist and the negotiating party is Michelle Southwick Wood.

And for both, the under negotiation is price in terms of payment. And then the third category is public employee performance evaluation for the following directors of departments. Agricultural Commissioner, Behavioral Wellness, Child Support Services, Community Services, County Health, Fire, General Services, Human Resources, Information Technology, Planning and Development, Probation, Public Defender, Public Works and Social Services. And the time estimate is an hour-and-a-half

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.743:14:24 · ≈ 12:14 PM

Hour and a half. OK, so we will convene back. I think that clock it might not be completely accurate what time should we can be? 145 thank you. Okay, welcome back. We are back from closed session. County Council can you please report out?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed3:15:06 · ≈ 12:15 PM

Thank you Madam Chair and members of the board. The board met in closed session with conference with labor negotiations for local 3930, conference with real property negotiators for the parcels listed in the agenda and public employee performance evaluation for a series of department directors and the board took no reportable action.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.743:15:27 · ≈ 12:15 PM

Okay, thanks. Madam Clerk will you please read departmental item number five as a record?

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.693:15:32 · ≈ 12:15 PM

Chair Kapsa members of the board departmental item number five is from the Community Services Department it is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the 2025 annual homelessness update

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed3:15:45 · ≈ 12:15 PM

Thank you chair caps members of the board this afternoon we're going to review as we do each year. The progress that we're making in tackling homelessness in our county in partnership with a variety of nonprofit organizations and municipalities today there's a lot of information and data that's going to be shared with the board but want to maybe I want to highlight a couple of points just to put it in a larger context.

The subject that receives a lot of attention each year is the point and time count, and we'd like to just underscore that those words represent a very clear snapshot of a point in time. It doesn't reflect necessarily the yeoman's work that's done throughout the year would urge the board and the public to keep in mind that this is simply a snapshot in time. We did receive some good news, and Joe Disvanek and his team will review the data with you but I think it's noteworthy to indicate that we've seen a decrease in the unsheltered population I guess countermanded by the increase in vehicular homelessness, which is of concern to us. But we've also seen some remarkable success in transitioning almost 1400 individuals into permanent housing. It's important to keep that in mind 1400 people.

And then when we take a look at the large population of homelessness, it's approaching 4500 which obviously is 4500 too many. But it's also important I think to put it in context. It's about 1% of the county population. It is something that with a clear eye and focus attention we can make some significant progress and we'll talk about that in a moment. So with that, let me invite Joe to present his material and also to introduce the balance of the team.

CommentJoe DysvonikProposedself-stated3:17:44 · ≈ 12:17 PM

Good afternoon Chair Kaps, honorable members of the board. I'm Joe Dysvonik, the Assistant Director for Santa Barbara County's Housing and Community Development Division within the Community Services Department. Today our team is going to provide an update on the recent efforts to address homelessness in Santa Barbara County. In today's update, we will present the following information. First, we will present today's recommended actions then I will start us off with an overview of key trends seen in the homelessness response system over the past year as well as the results from this year's point time count.

I will then turn it over to Jet Black-Merritts to present a Year 4 update on the Community Action Plan to address homelessness. Following Jet, Catherine Soto-Vazquez will present a Year 3 progress report on the County's Encampment Resolution Strategy And finally, I will finish us off by discussing some perspectives on how we plan to move forward in our mission of addressing homelessness.

Today we asked this board to receive and file this presentation and determined that today's proposed actions do not constitute a project under CEQA guidelines. Next, I'll move on to talk about the larger trends we saw this past year in our Homelessness Response System. So the good news, as the Director said nearly 1,400 people have transitioned out of homelessness and into permanent housing during the past calendar year of 2024.

Nearly a repeat of last year's unprecedented success in this area. This one metric is really the primary thermometer for whether or not a homeless strategy is working. Getting this many people out of homelessness and into permanent housing within one year represents a strategy where outreach is not only expansive, but of high quality. And I say that because it's difficult to get people housed and remain housed unless they accept the new services.

And accepting and using services requires building trust with an outreach worker and a case manager, and having those same case managers know how to navigate the system for their clients to attain and retain housing. But now let me also say a few words about what I refer to as the neutral trends seen on the slide here, which are trends that could be interpreted as either good or bad.

And finally, I will move on and discuss some of the troubling trends that we have seen. The first neutral trend we see here is the trend of people experiencing homelessness. What we saw was an increase in the overall number of individuals requiring shelter and housing services are what we track as the official number of people known to be experiencing homelessness in our county.

Now that data comes to us from the Homeless Management Information System, or HMIS and not from the PIT count. While this number increased by 124 people to a total of 4,457 it does represent a growth rate of less than 3% from last year. In previous years the growth rate in homelessness was always well over 10%. So to have a drop to something less than 3%, then overall homelessness is a positive trend however we fully acknowledge that the total number still increased overall The second neutral arrow here is to address the trend in first-time homelessness as determined by the data in HMIS showing people accessing services for the first time.

And in this category, we saw a decrease in the overall inflow. In 2023, we tracked 2216 first-time case, first-time homelessness cases representing a little over 50% of all the people experiencing homelessness that year. This last year it dropped to 1,712 or 38% of the total population accessing services. Next week the first red arrow we see addresses a trend in the mode which we saw the largest growth in homelessness. This mode is what we call vehicular homelessness or what people say people who live in their cars.

The overall increase in the subpopulation tells us that the greater effort to better understand and address vehicular homelessness as needed Now while our $8 million Serve 3 award is designed to do exactly that, these efforts only began in earnest over the past few months. And additionally this trend is especially noteworthy because people tend to revert to living in their vehicle when they first lose their housing so this upward trend in vehicular homelessness highlights the growing need for a more comprehensive and robust prevention diversion and rapid rehousing or PDR program as the centerpiece to our strategy moving forward.

And finally let's address the final troubling trend here on the slide which is the looming decrease in overall future funding for homelessness. As the one-time COVID era funds approach depletion, staff is focusing our efforts to realign the county strategies on sustaining the interim shelter operations and outreach programs developed during the past several years especially on those like Hope Village and La Posada that were designed with a five year implementation plan.

Past that we need to move toward a more effective and less costly long term solution with prevention as our critical focus In last year's update to the board, we alluded to this new emphasis and we are now studying a comprehensive approach. But along with that direction staff believe additional considerations should be given to establishing goals focused specifically on eliminating chronic homelessness and achieving functional zero. And I will talk more on that later.

Diving a little deeper into the topic of accessing services, this slide depicts the trends we have seen over the last four years with regards to the annualized number of unhoused people who have reached out for services each year. The purpose of this slide is to demonstrate a few key points in understanding homelessness in our county. The first key point is to emphasize that the actual number of people experiencing homelessness throughout the year in Santa Barbara County is a greater number than many understand.

This is most likely because of the way people interpret the information released and our point-in-time count every year. What this chart tells us is that in calendar year 2021 over 3,300 people reached out for services because they were experiencing homelessness. Last year 4,457 people reached out. These are unduplicated numbers meaning no single person is accounted for more than once in any year.

Also I restate that this number only reflects the number of people who reached out for services so the actual number of people experiencing homelessness it's undoubtedly larger The second key point is in reference to the nature of the increases that we see here. One, there is an upward trend more people are experiencing homelessness this past year than in previous years obviously not a good thing but two the rate at which this total number is growing is decreasing for example the growth rate measured from 2021-2022 on the slide represents a 17% growth from the total known to be experiencing homelessness while from 2022-2023 this number grew by nearly 11%.

This past year, with a total increase of 124 individuals the growth rate is less than 3%. However we also acknowledge that the growth rate in vehicular homelessness represents individuals and families that are not typically enrolled in our HMIS system. So that aspect of growth is not even being fully captured and reflected here so that adds a layer of complexity to the analysis on which we have much more work to do.

Finally, I mentioned in the final bullet on this slide as a director mentioned earlier that the total number of people accessing services in 2024 represents about 1% of the total county population. I did not say this to minimize the issue in any way or the trauma and suffering associated with it. I only say this to generate the perspective that this is an issue we can address and one that is not beyond our ability to affect.

We want to hold the line at one percent and then figure new ways to drive it down even further Slide 7 here depicts the trend shown on the two bookends of what we do here in CSD to address homelessness. On one end, we work to facilitate an increase in the availability of permanent housing attainable for an individual or family experiencing homelessness. That is to say find a housing solution that meets their financial abilities and or medical needs for the longer term.

The bottom orange line on this chart shows the results of our housing efforts over the past several years and it shows we again performed at a solid level. However, the blue line at the top addresses the other primary focus of our role where we work to engage with and encourage individuals and families experiencing homelessness to accept shelter in the variety of medical and financial services available to them.

Some of these people may have been homeless for months or even years before accessing services, and we would capture their data and group it in the same year with someone who may have been homeless for the first time and only a day before access services. The number we track as those accessing services for the first time due to experiencing homelessness is the blue line at the top of the chart. And that number for this year is 1,712 which is a subset of the 4,457 total population experiencing homelessness that we described in the previous slide.

So what is our overall goal with our Community Action Plan? Our goal has been to make these two lines approach each other and eventually intersect If that happens, people will still fall into homelessness but our ability to house them has improved to the extent that overall homelessness declines and no one person experiences homelessness for very long. In other words if they intersect we could significantly reduce maybe eliminate chronic or long-term homelessness for any one individual and be able to approach achieving functional zero for our entire community.

But I think a deeper lesson here is that we as a county, as a community We need to focus more intensely on those issues that are driving people into homelessness, much earlier upstream in the process of becoming homeless. While we as a CSD improve our ability to get those people who are already experiencing homelessness back into a housing solution. The current strategy we were discussing here today which is a CSD based strategy Is by its very nature more focused on affecting the orange line at the bottom of the chart and getting those who are already experiencing homelessness into a better situation.

And we want to start finding a way to focus on the blue line at the top and prevent folks from entering into homelessness. Over the next three slides, I want to briefly take a look at the trends resulting from this year's annual point in time count. And first, I want to mention that the level of volunteerism combined with the level of staff coordination it takes to get this done in a manner of hours across the entire county is tremendous.

However, I will not spend much time on pit count numbers today because they truly do reflect only a snapshot in time. I want to emphasize this because as I mentioned earlier, our information management system, coordinated entry system, our referral and housing systems. They're all much more in tune with the trends of homelessness in our county over time and it's those systems that inform our decision making and funding choices.

The pit count will likely always occur because it is mandated by the federal government in order for us to receive funding not to mention that the count itself is an important event that keeps our community's eyes wide open on this issue which is why I'm so thankful for all the volunteerism we see every year So having said all this, I will now move on and take a look at the snapshot of data for this year because there is some value in the information that does provide.

And what we see is a 15% jump overall in the numbers of individuals that are visible to us as being homeless on one random morning. Specifically, we saw an increase of 317 individuals while this trend undoubtedly reflects a true overall increase in homelessness. I will add this but even in a comparison of the two previous bit counts pardon me Even in the comparison of two previous pit counts, say of 2022 to 2023 we saw what appeared to be a decrease. However, we are certain that in reality overall homelessness was still increasing between those two years and that's according to our HMIS data as we saw on this slide before.

In fact it's growing every year on the slide being shown here. It's just that the snapshot that we took on that particular morning did not capture it and furthermore although the point time count conducted this year tells us that we saw 436 individuals experiencing homelessness. We know from the data I showed earlier from HMIS that actually 2,000 more than that were actually experiencing homelessness last year.

So outside of the overall PIT numbers two other trends are notable one the number of people seen in shelter beds that morning increased by 61 percent as compared to what we saw in 2022 while the number of people living unsheltered decreased by 25 when compared to 2022 and that's a significant shift And at the same time, the number of people counted as living in vehicles though increased by 42% since 2022 and just 35% since just last year.

So combining the data insights provided to us from both the PIT count and our HMIS data we see that the significant investments approved by your board for interim shelters, permanent supportive housing, encampment resolution efforts and street outreach have achieved significant effects We have slowed the growth rate of homelessness, substantially reduced unsheltered homelessness outside of non-vehicular.

We continued a high rate of transition in our unhoused community into housing through an expansive shelter and service availability across the county. However, the other important part of our goal which is to achieve an overall decrease in homelessness did not occur. This year's PIT count data reflects that approximately 57% all those counted as unhoused this year were seen in South County cities 29% in mid and north county cities, and 14% in unincorporated areas of the county.

In other words 86% of all visible homelessness captured in this year's PIT count exists within city limits. The pie chart on the left depicts the geographic breakdown of the 14% seen in our unincorporated county regions Slide 10 presents the PIT count numbers in yet another way, by county district. But here we see that the number of individuals living in their vehicles in South County is more than double those who are living outside unsheltered. We do not see that same trend in the North County.

Now I turn it over to Jet to give more specifics on the Community Action Plan for Year 4.

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CommentJet Black-MerrittsProposedself-stated3:31:39 · ≈ 12:31 PM

Good afternoon, Chair Caps and members of the board. My name is Jet Black-Merritts and I am the Homelessness Assistance Program Manager at the county. In addition to counting the number of individuals experiencing homelessness on a single night, jurisdictions are also required to give an accounting of how many permanent rapid rehousing and interim housing beds exist that are dedicated to people experiencing homelessness. The chart on your screen shows the growth in the number of existing beds dedicated to homelessness between 2021 and 2025.

Growth can be seen across all bed types, particularly in permanent housing and interim shelter beds. These beds are essential to getting people indoors and on the road to attaining permanent housing. One of our most notable trends this year is the decrease in the number of people living outside and the sharp increase in the number of people residing in shelters as you saw in the previous section.

This can be largely attributed to the addition of two new interim housing facilities, La Posada and Hope Village along with the increased outreach and encampment resolution efforts. This cause-and-effect clearly demonstrates that when funding and collective efforts are concentrated and coordinated real changes are possible in a relatively short period. Santa Barbara County has seen meaningful progress in housing outcomes. For these outcomes to continue to trend in a positive direction, it is imperative that we continue to add permanent housing options and supportive services to help people exit the system.

Without an exit strategy no amount of interim beds is going to solve homelessness in the long term. This can only be done through consistent and ongoing creation of permanent housing solutions. Next slide. When examining data trends, the homelessness team closely tracks several demographic groups. Veterans, families, youth and seniors. There has been targeted work to address veteran homelessness.

At the top left you'll see the veteran by name list dropped by nearly 40 individuals between 2024 and 2025. This is due to the veterans specific case conferencing strong partnerships with the veterans administration and supportive services for veterans family And the VA's one-team approach, which emphasizes local leadership and unified coordination across providers to end veteran homelessness.

Some groups however are showing troubling increases. Family homelessness rose by about 20 households from the 2024 to 2025 point in time count with most living in their vehicles. A barrier to securing housing for this demographic is the lack of appropriately sized affordable housing units. Additionally, youth homelessness among 18 to 24 year olds is on the rise.

Early homelessness often predicts chronic homelessness later in life. Youth need strong partnerships with schools and service providers as well as early access to financial literacy, life skills and supportive services to prevent housing loss and promote successful housing outcomes in their futures. On the right side of the screen you will see a rise in older adult homelessness which is also a national trend.

A recent University of Pennsylvania study found late baby boomers, those are individuals born after 1954, are 1.4 times more likely to experience homelessness than the previous generation. This aging population brings unique medical, cognitive and social needs. CSD is working with the Adult and Aging Network on the county's Master Plan for Aging to support aging in place and prevent housing loss.

Finally, on the bottom right we have a key system level metric which is the length of time people spend in the homelessness system before reaching permanent housing. This has also increased. This is a good news bad news metric while longer stays and permanent housing provide time for support and relationship building this may also signal a bottleneck in our system Once a permanent unit is filled, it's no longer available for another person to move into.

Expanding attainable permanent housing remains essential to ensure exits from homelessness. I'll now turn it to Catherine Soto-Vasquez to discuss our efforts in encampment response.

CommentCatherine Soto-VasquezProposedself-stated3:35:42 · ≈ 12:35 PM

Good afternoon Chair Kaps and members of the Board. My name is Catherine Soto-Vasquez and I'm the Encampment Response Manager. The approved encampment resolution strategy underscores the importance of responding to issues of homelessness with compassion and care, and gave us a framework to resolve encampments in a formalized and collaborative approach But a response protocol can only be effective when supported by a system of care with adequate shelter, housing and services. In the last three years we have invested over $26 million in encampment response which has given us the opportunity to secure dedicated funds for sanitation services and debris removal, increased outreach and engagement teams We've created over 200 new interim housing beds and the development of new permanent housing units such as Buena Tierra in Goleta and Veracruz Village in Santa Barbara.

The cumulative efforts amongst counties, cities, Caltrans and railroad partners has led to the resolution of 1,110 encampments leading to the sheltering and housing of 464 people. In the third and final year alone, the teams have supported the placement of 175 individuals. These efforts and their results were directly funded by ARPA state local fiscal recovery funds in California encampment resolution funding.

Next slide. This slide gives us an updated review of the most recent hard work by our partnering agencies. As a reminder, Santa Barbara County has received three awards through the statewide competitive encampment resolution funding process totaling nearly $17 million. Guided by local partners and data analysis, our current efforts include dedicated teams targeting waterways and people residing in their vehicles.

Next slide. The encampment resolution protocol and strategy is intended to be a part of the county's larger plan to end homelessness. The interjurisdictional partnerships, targeted outreach efforts, innovative shelter solutions, job training, and permanent housing successes you see on this screen are the results of a concerted person-centered approach. While this approach and these investments are proving to be effective, the surge in pandemic funding that allowed for collaboration and creativity will no longer be the case.

The reality of our situation is that homelessness numbers continue to rise. And though we are seeing clear improvements in housing transitions and slowing the flow into homelessness, we are also encountering emerging challenges such as a rise in vehicular homelessness and a shifting funding landscape. The CSD Homelessness Assistance Team has historically operated under the narrow band of homelessness response, meaning our services are initiated when a person falls into homelessness and often taper off after someone enters housing. If the county's goal is not only to address homelessness but to systemically end it in the long term, the scope and reach of the division must be expanded.

To address this challenge we must look beyond quick fixes and emergency responses and get to the root causes of the issue which we know to be lack of affordable housing, poverty and income inequality, the cost of medical care and prevalence of chronic health conditions and the fragmentation of social and public services. Your continued leadership and support will be critical as we navigate the next phase of, next phases of our response.

Thank you.

CommentJoe DysvonikProposedself-stated3:39:13 · ≈ 12:39 PM

So before moving on to our final slide I just want to take a moment to thank all of our partners many but not all are seen here for their efforts and support in addressing homelessness in so many communities and in so many ways across our county So the question many now have is, because the large one-time federal and state funding is drying up with no comparable replacement in sight.

What will we do to continue the projects we initiated over the past few years? To be sure all of those large funding packages certainly planted the seeds for the growth of a system that we now recognize housed nearly 1,400 people experiencing homelessness this past year and the year before that. And this is a system that will surely remain effective in the next two or three years, but how we move forward after that. This is certainly a concerning issue.

Cities and counties generally operate on budgets that can be forecast with a certain degree of certainty a few years into the future. But how do we do this for an issue to which no level of government has been willing to commit funding for more than a year at a time? The answer is one, we do not believe that the large capital investments we have made into interim shelter needs to continue. And we have saved reserves from the past years to keep those projects moving forward for their projected five-year operational span.

Two, we still have our $8 million Serve 3 award and a stronger bond with the city staff of Santa Barbara and the New Beginnings Counseling Center to better understand and address the fastest growing segment of our homeless subpopulation, the vehicular homeless. Three, the massive cash flows that passed through CSD and multiple other county departments in the past several years have not only provided the building and strengthening of a new type of network that helps us understand and address the issue of homelessness but afforded us the opportunity to acquire lessons learned that we carry forward.

We have developed innovative solutions, we have a better idea what works and what doesn't, and we have better connectivity with each other on this issue. Point four here is just do our jobs. That is, both homeless and affordable housing teams in HCD know that our job is to keep working to identify, understand, apply for and acquire all the various funding sources made at all the various levels that could possibly be used to address homelessness and affordable housing issues.

Finding and braiding new funding is simply our job. It's staff work and it's what we always do. Points 5 and 6 emphasize that at the same time, we do recognize that we must now adjust our strategy moving forward in the onset of significant funding reductions. For point five, we have known for some time that moving upstream in an individual's pathway to homelessness and working to prevent them from becoming homeless to begin with is a much less expensive and much less traumatic way to approach this issue than any other alternative.

But we have yet to spend the time developing a wide reaching and comprehensive program to do this. And that is where staff is now starting to spend much of our time and effort. And finally on point six, it is well known that many economic social and political factors converge to influence the ability of any particular community to foster an environment where housing could be attained and maintained by the majority of its residents.

For example, cost of living and wage disparity, inflation, exorbitant property values, lack of affordable housing, drug proliferation and addiction, behavioral health and social services availability all just to name a few. And most of these influencers on the growth of homelessness are simply beyond the scope of anything for which CSD could provide solutions.

So rather than establishing a goal to quote end homelessness perhaps it is more achievable and therefore more worthwhile from a CSD perspective to set a goal of making homelessness less frequent brief, and an occurrence where the number of people exiting is at least equal to or greater than the number of people entering. A more succinct way of phrasing this concept is simply to say that our goal should be to eliminate chronic homelessness and achieve functional zero.

In order to set the path for this aspirational goal staff will be giving much thought to a new approach in the coming months We need to understand how to apply the lessons learned over the past years and make our work more efficient and effective in our quest to address homelessness as humanely as possible. We know that is the wish of your board, our community, and it's what motivates CSD every day.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed3:43:29 · ≈ 12:43 PM

And with that as a backdrop we'd also like to suggest that if we think of our housing element and the cycle of the housing element CSD is taking on the challenge of bringing forward to you a proposal that would achieve item six within the context of the current housing element time frame. So sometime in the next five to six years, that we achieve what is identified as item six. It's a challenge for us it's going to be a challenge for the county but it's something that I think is achievable in light of the population counts that we've shared with you And with that, Joe's going to highlight the final recommendations for you today.

CommentJoe DysvonikProposedself-stated3:44:11 · ≈ 12:44 PM

So Chair Capps and members of the board thank you for your time today as always we look forward to your questions comments and direction on the screen here are the recommended actions for today.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.743:44:22 · ≈ 12:44 PM

Well thank you so much I'm so proud of our housing homelessness team questions from the board. Yeah Supervisor Nelson

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed3:44:31 · ≈ 12:44 PM

yeah thank you Chair Capps can go to slide eight for a moment You know, this is one that shows a significant drop in unsheltered about 20% countywide, which is a pretty big number. I think what's lost in this though is that the totality of the work that we did is this is missing of about, I think in 2024, about 100 and maybe 180 unsheltered to live in the Santa Maria Riverbed, which is now functionally zero in 2025. I mean, I know there's a few here and there. That really exists in San Luis Obispo County not in Santa Barbara County.

So it's not going to make it into this presentation, but I think your actual shelter went down by about 60% if you actually reflect those numbers in there. So that's a huge win that's not really showing up in these numbers. I'm glad to see it trending downward even outside the revert bed, but there was a huge win there. And again, I want to thank CSD and the county and my colleagues for their commitment to really working on that problem.

And that's obviously a big part of that number. So I think it's a big success. One of my hypotheses on why this is all happening is in part because now enforcement is a tool that we can use, and I didn't see a lot of that in your presentation. But I do think that that's playing a role here when we basically no longer say You know, a certain level of behavior or lifestyle is acceptable and we kind of set that bar.

People will respond to it. Some of them will go into vehicular, and I think that's what you're seeing here in some ways. Some of them will relocate Some of them will take advantage of the resources that we provide. You know it's kind of a mixed bag but it's really important that we set those levels and I think that's ultimately what we're going to need to do with vehicular homelessness as well you know, I think that is again not as bad as living outdoors but it's still not a preferred way for society to be in.

I do want to thank again some of the county partners on not the globe but the fourth district numbers being so low there's been a lot of work that's been done In the 4th District, you know with the Sheriff's Department with City of Santa Maria, some of my CSDs and my community members to really tackle the issues as they pop up in the fourth district. And I think that's reflected as well as being a lot of the unincorporated area that I represent. A lot of my colleagues have cities Bigger portions of the cities and that's I think reflected in their numbers as well. But again, I'm happy to see the numbers in the 4th district actually go down 24-25. I think that's really a tribute to a lot of good things moving forward as well as that's not even counting the riverbed issue.

You know something one last comment was you know at the UCSB economic forecast you know part of that conversation was that it may not be reasonable for people to be living in Santa Barbara County. I know we want to house everybody that's here, everybody that's homeless but it may not be reasonable and at some point you know we may be able to do more affordable housing but we're not going to be able to house everybody and I think we have to have the honest conversation about You know even if you grew up here, you don't necessarily have a right to stay here. You know there are places throughout this country throughout the state that are more affordable.

I know a lot of people want to stay closer to home or where the weather's nice or for a lot of other reasons but um you know this is a big country and a big state and there are other options for people who can't necessarily afford there. And even if we drop the price of rents by 20 percent in this county It's still unaffordable, right? We did it by 40 percent. Still unaffordable and I think we need to make sure that we're kind of keeping a reality check on that as well. That you know we can't build our way out of this. We can do more and we can do better but at the same time I don't want us to be Pollyanna that was somehow that we're just going to solve this problem from accounting governance point of view human behavior needs to um you know people need to act in their own self-interest at some point and find a place you know just like people did a long time ago when they headed west You know, for other opportunities.

You know this may not be the opportunity for everybody here in Santa Barbara County and I know that's a little uncomfortable but I do think it's important part of the conversation that and part of the reality as we look at these numbers.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.743:49:08 · ≈ 12:49 PM

Thank you Supervisor Nelson. Questions? Supervisor Hartman

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:49:12 · ≈ 12:49 PM

Yes, several. The first is the rise in shelter beds by 61% from 2022. Is that partly an artifact of COVID? That is we didn't have so many people in shelters because of COVID and now they're back

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CommentJet Black-MerrittsProposedself-stated3:49:36 · ≈ 12:49 PM

Supervisor Hartman through the chair. It's the addition of shelter beds, so we had the Santa Barbara Street Village which added 34 shelter beds Hope Village which added quite a few shelter beds as well as La Posada and so we had the ability to add those additional shelter beds and also do a lot of outreach specifically in the areas to be served by those beds.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:49:56 · ≈ 12:49 PM

And second question you said that we have about 1%. Do we have a comparison with other counties? I was just curious

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed3:50:07 · ≈ 12:50 PM

We've not come across any good data on that point, but when we think of some of the neighboring counties they're experiencing some growths and so it is something that we can take a look at and see if we can get some comparative

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:50:20 · ≈ 12:50 PM

data. Alone it's hard to know what it means but we have been working really hard. We have our A team here really A game. So I hope that it's reflected and I think you've helped us have a much deeper understanding of what these numbers mean. I really appreciate today's presentation. My next question is, I guess we had the earlier presentation about the CARE Act and AB 43 And I think that will have at least an effect on some.

But my bigger question is Prop 1. A lot of that money is to go to building housing for people with mental illness, many of them are homeless because of that. They're not really able to go somewhere else or do something else because they don't have that mentality right now. So how are we thinking about the future once I mean, how does that affect the vision?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed3:51:33 · ≈ 12:51 PM

Supervisor Hartman through the chair. I think that's really at the $64,000 question for the county as an organization you heard a very good presentation from be well this morning about some potential funding and focus around housing and it strikes us that something that the CEO's office has stressed for quite some time is improved coordination in collaboration among the departments It's something that we've been talking about internally and want to discuss further with our colleagues about how we institutionalize, if you will, that kind of collaboration because that offers an opportunity to access resources, to access services, to access knowledge, to make the kind of progress that we're hoping to make.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.893:52:18 · ≈ 12:52 PM

Right, and that was really the governor's pitch on Prop 1. And you know it narrowly passed but the voters went and so I think as a county we have to be prepared to say this is our strategy in this new framework. Supervisor Leopold.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.913:52:39 · ≈ 12:52 PM

Thank You Madam Chair. A couple questions. So I know we aren't the operator of Hope Village, but how are we communicating with GoodSAM? What kind of feedback are we getting? How would you rate its success at this point?

CommentJoe DysvonikProposedself-stated3:53:02 · ≈ 12:53 PM

For Hope Village in particular? Yeah. Yeah, I mean we meet with them every couple of weeks and I would say it's also successful not only because of the housing rate in which they're able to achieve but really its relationship with the local community has improved a lot. Again, we have some issues here and there but over the last year it has really smoothed out to where when I even meet with city officials everybody kind of acknowledges a pretty good progression in that area so I think it's been very successful. Awesome.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.913:53:34 · ≈ 12:53 PM

And then can you just touch a little bit on your relationship with AmeriCorps and what they've kind of brought to this field.

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CommentJet Black-MerrittsProposedself-stated3:53:53 · ≈ 12:53 PM

We feel a very important role for all local nonprofits, especially when we're looking at outreach and those sort of direct service boots on the ground level. And so the impacts of potentially losing more AmeriCorps volunteers I think would be detrimental to the nonprofits that they are serving because the cost of hiring you know a full-time full pay individual far outweighs the cost and investment in an AmeriCorps. for basically the same return on investment. And so that is something that we are looking at in the future, that is going to be a barrier to nonprofits for doing the level of service that they have been used to doing.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.913:54:27 · ≈ 12:54 PM

Yeah, I'll just weigh in real quick. Just on you know, I think I'm glad you guys made and it wasn't you that started this idea of will end homelessness but I think the conversations, you know, we don't control all the factors that lead people into homelessness so for us to say that we're going to end it and you don't have the... You're not at the beginning You know the pipe makes it really difficult.

I think honestly what we should be judged on is how many people are living outdoors because that is on us, that is on enforcement, that is on having opportunities for people to go to other places so you know people are going to continue as the economy and whatever happens in this country there are going to be I think by any measure that the I think we've proved out the idea that even homeless person that if you provide them with a door and a room and a locked door in a non-congregate setting, that's going to even move some of the most resistant folks off of the street.

And lastly I just want to say thank you that I think we have over 15,000 veterans in Santa Barbara County and the fact that we're down to 50 That is basically functional zero at this point. It's not for those 50 individuals, but I'm sure that we have contacted those 50. We've talked to those 50. I've seen those 50 and some of them it's just not going to work.

When I point to successes in the county over the last few years, to me your work on homelessness and moving people out of encampments and getting them into shelter whether that's a shelter or congregate living or non-congregant is just amazing. Unfortunately, not everybody in the community feels the same way but that's because you know they're just not paying attention. So I still get phone calls about certain things but encampments aren't one of them because if you can drive around here now all over Santa Maria and it's difficult to actually find an organized encampment so great work

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed3:57:12 · ≈ 12:57 PM

Supervisor Lavinino through the chair. Another observation I shared with you is one of the slides indicated that about 86% of homeless are in municipalities and 14 are within the areas that the county's directly responsible for, underscoring really the importance of the county and the cities working hand-in-glove to tackle this issue. It's not something that's unique to one institution over another it's really The collaboration and the cooperation that we're seeing as Supervisor Nelson mentioned with Santa Maria, as we're seeing hopefully with Lompoc and other communities to make some progress in that respect.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisor, District 5Proposedvoiceprint 0.913:57:51 · ≈ 12:57 PM

Correct? And I got to give a lot of credit to just the personality of Joe honestly that Moving people and coming together, not worrying about who's right or who's wrong or pointing fingers like let's just get it done. Right? And just kind of plowing through a lot of those landmines that have been set up before and just working through all those things so good job.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.743:58:17 · ≈ 12:58 PM

Thank you Supervisor Lee.

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.793:58:19 · ≈ 12:58 PM

So I have a question about the point count the procedure and how you get the surveys can run through that REFAS

CommentJet Black-MerrittsProposedself-stated3:58:25 · ≈ 12:58 PM

Supervisor Lee through the Chair, in 2019 we developed a strategy with the help of a company called ASR so we could replicate our methodology year to year. And so we've been using more or less the same strategy year over year and so we recruit about 400 volunteers countywide. The point-in-time count must take place a single day during the last 10 days of January per direction from that Department of Housing and Urban Development. So we select a day during the last 10 days in January, mobilize volunteers about 400 to go out and actually count people who are experiencing homelessness outside or in their vehicles.

Each volunteer receives a training and then they use an app called Counting Us by a company called SimTech. And when they come across an individual who's able or willing to talk to them, they use the app to walk through a series of questions some of them required by HUD and some of them that we have added in there just for a little more information that we're trying to collect. Once we gather all that information, we extrapolate that data across all of the individuals that were observed. So some of them were able to speak to some of them we just count and so that's how we come across those demographic numbers that you saw earlier that did not come from HMIS.

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.793:59:32 · ≈ 12:59 PM

And how do you select that time that you ask these people this question? It is really early in the morning. Do you think you'll have different answers if you can ask them later in the day where they're more awake Walk around, have a lunch.

CommentJet Black-MerrittsProposedself-stated3:59:46 · ≈ 12:59 PM

Supervisor Lee through the chair potentially we would receive different answers but the reason we do it so early in the morning is because we can count on people being more or less sedentary during that time they're not up moving around and so it helps us not count people multiple times if they're moving between different census tracts and different volunteers are encountering them. So we find that to be the most accurate time to count because you're able to see where someone is and guarantee that they won't be moving for the next hour or so because it is 530 in the morning

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.794:00:13 · ≈ 1:00 PM

Has anybody been angry at any of the volunteers for saying, why are you waking me up? I just fell asleep.

CommentJet Black-MerrittsProposedself-stated4:00:19 · ≈ 1:00 PM

We instruct our volunteers not to touch people, shake people, try to wake people up. We do a friendly call. One of the points in our training is you are entering these people's home. This is where they live. So if someone was pounding on your door at six in the morning, you would be fairly angry as well and so we instruct them to be as gentle as possible when approaching these people and we emphasize that just doing an observational count is fine as well but there's anecdotes every year.

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.794:00:46 · ≈ 1:00 PM

Thank you.

CommentJet Black-MerrittsProposedself-stated4:00:47 · ≈ 1:00 PM

Yes.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:00:48 · ≈ 1:00 PM

Supervisor Harmon, did you?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisor, District 3Proposedvoiceprint 0.894:00:50 · ≈ 1:00 PM

Oh yeah I had a couple of things. First while I think that encampments that's the most visible and it really is discouraging when you see them so it's really great to see them cleaned up but At least in Lompoc vehicular, the street after street is lined with cars and RVs that are no longer in service. And that's pretty discouraging too. So I think that your emphasis on trying to go upstream and prevent homelessness our partnership with New Beginnings trying to get people when they're you know to come into safe parking and get them then is great.

I would like when we give a motion To direct that in say nine months you come back with working with Be Well and kind of helping us understand how Prop 1 and that framework will, how you're cooperating to ensure that we use that to the best ability we can to deal with mentally ill homeless and substance use disorder illness for homeless.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:02:04 · ≈ 1:02 PM

Yeah, thank you. I had a couple questions just again it's it's so clear. It's an all hands on deck approach and I appreciate all of the data so When you go through all of this, what are some light bulb moments or okay we really got to double down on this area? I mean it's a lot to take in so I'm just hoping you can maybe discern it a little bit further for me. As a team and you really are a strong team what do you say okay well we're gonna really focus our efforts in this area or we've learned okay this is you know what what are some strong takeaways?

CommentJoe DysvonikProposedself-stated4:02:41 · ≈ 1:02 PM

Well, I think last year when we created a presentation for the Board and we had the same slide with two lines for permanent housing exits as well as newly homeless. And we kind of realized what we were trying to do was very difficult. The expense of establishing a Hope Village in La Posada and operating those over the years is something that a five-year time frame was given for multiple reasons and one of them is just financially probably not to keep those open for five years. So we started realizing as we were looking at the amount of money that here we are trying to catch folks as they fall into homelessness and try to rehabilitate them and get them back into housing that may not even exist, so we had to shift our focus a little bit and then it happened this year.

So last year we saw the slide with the two lines and we realized trying to get them closer together is just, that's really our goal. A way of simplifying and really distilling down what we're doing But then this year we kind of took another step and said even beyond that, this idea of defining for our community a functional zero. Because functional zero just does simply mean that you know just as many people are leaving homelessness is entering into it and on top of that no one person is remaining homelessness for very long so how are we going to define that for our community? We have to pick a number that might be There's a thousand individuals that we're accepting as homeless at any given moment, but none of those thousand are remaining homeless for more than 90 days.

Those are the kind of things that we want to... We think that's a reasonable a goal that we can get to based on the reasons that I think, I don't know if it was Supervisor Nelson or Lavinia mentioned that you know there are just factors we can't control. Sure so we set goals that are reasonable and looking at the data I mean that's just the sort of thing in the discussion with each other that we that was a light bulb moment for us and that's why we propose we want to come back with a new approach and some new goals apparently nine months according to

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:04:38 · ≈ 1:04 PM

Okay. I have two more questions, Alessia you were going to answer as well? No. Okay yeah so just the rise in youth homelessness talk about that a little bit more please and what some strategies you might be leaning on.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed4:04:51 · ≈ 1:04 PM

We've had some conversations with B-Well and one of the areas that B-Well would like us to dive a little bit deeper is into housing for transitional age youth. That's a segment of the population that really does need some assistance, and we had recently a conversation with a Dignity Moves representative who said To the extent that they can embark on another project, that would be their focus next time around. That is a population that needs some attention just as we're dealing with families through that Home Key Plus application that you authorized to be submitted. We think that the youth are our next segment that needs attention.

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CommentJet Black-MerrittsProposedself-stated4:05:33 · ≈ 1:05 PM

Supervisor Capps, I was just going to mention that we're working to strengthen our partnership with Santa Barbara Unified as well. As well as the school districts in North County to really target these youth, transitional-age youth 18 to 24. We don't serve them before they turn 18 just because of funding restrictions and so how can we target those individuals before they turn 18 for homelessness services? That's an area that we're continuing to explore as well

CommentJoe DysvonikProposedself-stated4:05:59 · ≈ 1:05 PM

And Chair Caps, just one more thing on that too is we had it was about two years ago. We applied for the YHDP, the Youth Homelessness Demonstration Program with HUD which is a large source of grant funding that a lot of COCs didn't apply for and I think actually Jet applied for that successfully a few years ago and got five million dollars for that and when we got that funding I think what we learned was that homelessness structures have been around for a while, congregate shelters. Now we have non-congregate shelters and methodologies but there wasn't anything, there's no real structure for the youth that we have in place so the funding that HUD was giving us through YHDP, we just learned of them the massive inertia there is in the system towards reaching out and achieving processes to help youth homelessness And part of one of the things we're working with are YAB, which I love that acronym, the Youth Action Board.

They are a bunch of young people who understand it and they want to be developing like an app, almost like a two-on-one app for youth to sort of anonymously go in and find resources. Those are the ways we're approaching that with organizations that Jet mentioned and Fighting Back Santa Maria Valley and who's the? Channel

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:07:10 · ≈ 1:07 PM

Islands.

CommentJoe DysvonikProposedself-stated4:07:11 · ≈ 1:07 PM

Yeah, Channel Islands so.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:07:15 · ≈ 1:07 PM

So yeah, my second. My last question is just I want to echo what my colleagues have talked about that the success that we've had in terms of encampment strategies and moving folks into actual shelter I just want to say thank you so much for your time. You know, we've talked a lot about vehicle homelessness even though that's the you know you never want to rise but of all places because I attended presentation by new beginnings awhile back which of course, you know helps with amongst other things do safe parking and just learned really too that that those who live in their cars are That's a short-term solution that you then do, hopefully get back on your feet. So is my memory accurate from learning that lesson? Again these are folks that sometimes also suffer less mental illness and are homeless a shorter length of period.

CommentJet Black-MerrittsProposedself-stated4:08:19 · ≈ 1:08 PM

Chair Keps, that's correct. People who enter their vehicles were housed more recently than people that you typically see living outside. This is a segment of the population that we don't quite yet understand. They're not what you consider the traditionally unhoused individuals. These are people that are working with us every day and blending into day-to-day society and not actually working.

and just aren't able to afford housing in the area. And so this is an area that we're, or a population that we're really looking forward to getting to understand better and figuring out how we can help them move out of their vehicles or possibly stay out of their vehicles in the first place. And do we have enough

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:08:54 · ≈ 1:08 PM

places? I know it's come up many times but with parking are we also still making efforts to secure more parking spots

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed4:09:05 · ≈ 1:09 PM

The board, if I may. Just one dimension and then Jet can elaborate of course the board did direct us to try to work to see if we could secure state property. Yeah it's been a bit of an uphill battle however our state representatives have been willing to assist us and we're still trying to work with the governor's office to see if They can get some support in that area.

Our lobbyist also was in contact with another legislator who was trying to introduce some of that language and a bill that she was sponsoring, and we're hopeful that we may be able to make some progress. EDD and DMV tend not to be at all receptive to the notion of their space being used. So it's a bit of a challenge.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:09:49 · ≈ 1:09 PM

Yeah, well hopefully that uphill battle just got a little bit easier with the fact that I know Senator Monique Lamone has been working on this for two years and now she just became the leader of the Senate. So we're very happy about that and hopefully this will be I know it's something she cares a lot about so maybe then we'll see some progress there because again I just think have no back to kids you of course want them in I think it's important to remember that we're talking about a lot of things. We're talking about homes but being in a car is far better than being on the streets and so anyway, thank you for this very comprehensive report. I think at this point, I'll see if there's any public comment.

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.694:10:24 · ≈ 1:10 PM

Chair caps and members of the board. We have no request to speak from the public on this item.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:10:28 · ≈ 1:10 PM

Okay with that. I think we're ready for a motion unless there's

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CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction4:10:40 · ≈ 1:10 PM

We have a motion and a second all those in favor please say aye.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:11:11 · ≈ 1:11 PM

The clerk is ready.

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.694:11:20 · ≈ 1:11 PM

Chair caps and members of the board department item number 6 is from the human resources department it is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding implementation of assembly bill 2, 5,

CommentYvonne TorresProposedself-stated4:11:42 · ≈ 1:11 PM

Good afternoon, Chair Kaps and members of the board. I have with me today to my right Natalie Alvarado. First of all, I'm Yvonne Torres, the Assistant HR Director. To my right, I have Natalie Alvarado, our Talent and Development Division Chief. I have to my left Carlos Silva, the Employee Relations Division Chief and then Raquel Martinez our Talent Acquisition Manager.

So we have the whole team here in case there are any questions. I'm here today presenting for Kristy Schmidt and I wanted to just say that these individuals will be here to assist me with the presentation as well. In today's presentation, we're going to go over the requirements of the new law. Assembly bill 2561 that requires an annual hearing on employment vacancies.

We're going to talk about the proposed hearing procedures talk a little bit about the nuances of employment vacancies in general and then provide their requiring hearing information. AB 2561 went into effect January 1st of this year after an effective campaign by public sector unions. The legislative findings underpinning the bill were that job vacancies in local government are widespread and significant problem for the public sector affecting occupations across wage levels and educational requirements.

High job vacancies impact public service delivery and the workers who are focused to handle heavier workloads with understaffing leading to burnout and increased turnover that further exasperate staffing challenges. There is a statewide interest in ensuring that public agency operations are appropriately staffed, and that high vacancy rates do not undermine public I'm going to go ahead and open it up for questions.

AB 2561 requires public agencies to hold at least one public hearing per fiscal year prior to the adoption of the annual budget. Staff needs to present information about vacancies in funded positions and recruitment and retention efforts. Any recognized employee organization for a bargaining unit is entitled to make a presentation to the board addressing vacancies and recruitment and retention efforts for positions within the bargaining unit.

If the vacancy rate in a bargaining unit exceeds 20%, the union can demand that the county present certain additional information at the hearing. As we'll discuss later, only one very small bargaining unit in our county had a vacancy rate above 20% and that unit did not request the additional information today. We provided proposed hearing procedures for your consideration today to guide these annual hearings in the future.

We've shared this with our bargaining units and incorporated their feedback. The procedures call for appropriate notice to the unions, and they outline the order of the hearing The Board of Supervisors meeting will begin with a presentation starting with the presentation from staff followed by a presentation from the unions who have requested to speak then the board questions and answers and then final comments from staff in Our vacancy is a pay problem. I want to provide a little context for the discussion that I hope will be helpful.

A premise behind the new law is that vacancies are a problem and specifically, a problem that should be solved with pay and benefit increases. While that sometimes can be the case it isn't necessarily always so. For some, turnover is normal and expected for example due to family and life change situations promotional opportunities retirements performance issues.

This results in vacancies new proposed positions are also tracked as vacant but that's not a problem vacancies are so foreseeable that most of our departments actually build vacancy assumptions into their budgets. In addition Vacancies are frequently used as a management tool during the year to balance budgets and address unanticipated priorities. And for example, we have a situation in social services with vacancies but they're addressing funding issues.

For our operations with the cohort of academy training structure, we may carry vacancies on the books until the next cohort Academy begins. And this is true with Sheriff Fire Department of Social Services and the Auditor's Office they all hire in cohorts. And factors other than pay that can create recruitment challenges include the overall tight labor market that all employees are facing, educational shortages in certain professions such as civil engineers.

Changes in public sentiment towards the profession also have played a role for example law enforcement and public health professionals post COVID. Perceived workloads and overtime work requirements can affect interest in our jobs and the fact that we work with challenging populations. And in some areas, we see employment applications affected by preferences towards contract employment. An example would be licensed physicians and psychiatrists.

Now I'd like to turn over the presentation to Natalie Alvarado who will go over the data.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed4:17:58 · ≈ 1:17 PM

Thank you, Yvonne. So Chair Kaps and members of the board as part of our efforts to meet Assembly Bill 2561 obligations we're going to now start the public hearing. The agenda today will be the first part that's covered by myself I'll be going over countywide information for calendar year 2024. So I will be discussing our workforce information, vacancy information, recruitments, retention and then we'll talk a little bit about some of the hiring issues and challenges that we've noted. We'll then turn it over to any unions that requested to speak today and give them some opportunity to speak and then open it up for questions.

So we wanted to start with a quick snapshot of our overall workforce. At the County of Santa Barbara at the end of calendar year 2024, so we were looking at December 31st 2024 numbers, We had 4,875 full-time equivalent budgeted positions. This number does take into account positions for all 23 departments that includes SB CSRS It also takes into account positions that we added throughout the calendar year outside of the annual budgeting cycle that typically occurs in June and July. So, we've done work to reconcile our data so that it only includes funded budgeted positions.

Our workforce provides many services to the public, as you all are aware. Some of those are administrative and civic services such as managing vital records, elections, internal operations. We also have departments that provide public safety and legal services through law enforcement, probation, justice and rehabilitation processes. We have housing and community services. You just heard a presentation from them. And then we also have health and human services.

We wanted to start with an overview of our recruitment lifecycle. Many of our funded positions are civil service positions and so we follow a merit-based hiring process that aligns with our civil service rules. Vacancies at the county are created for a variety of reasons, so when a position becomes available It's not just because someone left the county. It might be because there was internal movements such as promotions, transfers, demotions. It could be that we had someone retire or that we have added a new position because the department received funding through grants or other means.

So once the position becomes available and we've gone through the requisition process, County HR begins the hiring process by looking if we have an existing eligible list of candidates that we can provide to the department so they can start interviewing. If we don't a recruiter will start working with the hiring manager to post the job and then we really start the merit-based process where we will start screening applications for minimum qualifications and seeing who passes that and then taking them through a testing process Seeing who passes that and then placing them on a list. And once that list has been established, we'll give the top 10 names to departments to consider for interviews. And then really the department takes over the hiring process at that point.

We'll conduct their selection interviews, manage the offer process and any other pre-employment processes like a background investigation or a background check reference check etc. And then finally, we get to start a new hire. So you can see it's not a quick process for us to get people through our civil service process but that's the way that we will typically follow to fill vacancies.

So part of the bill requires that we discuss our vacancy information. This is a high-level snapshot, month to month, of what vacancies looked like at the county in 2024. This chart outlines what the vacancy information was at the end of the month so you're seeing numbers for the end of January, February, March etc. As I mentioned earlier, vacancies are created for a variety of reasons. That can be internal movement, new positions being added, employees leaving the county etc. Vacancies are filled through the process I just kind of outlined and then we calculated the percentage of vacancies by taking what were the remaining vacancies at the end of the month and dividing it by the total funded FTE at the end of that month.

Our average vacancy rate across the year for the entire county was 12.5%, with our highest being 14% in the month of March and our lowest being 11.2% in the month of November. Just for some context, other counties such as San Diego had an average of 12% in 2022. LA County had a 14.8% in 2022 Santa Clara County had 16% in 2022 and then San Francisco City and County had 13.7% in 2023, so we're pretty much sitting at about average with a lot of our peer counties as well.

And significantly lower than the state. All right. So how did we fill those vacancies? We filled them through the recruitment process I outlined. In calendar year 2024, the county ran over 450 recruitments to fill our vacancies. We run different types of recruitments. Continuous recruitments are typically run for hard-to-fill positions where we know that the position will be open for a longer period of time because our qualified candidate pool is significantly lower and harder to find and attract to the county. So we filled 271 vacancies through that.

New external recruitments are recruitments that are open to the public. They're welcome to apply, but they're also open to our current county employees so we do see some promotional and internal movement that happens through new external recruitments and we filled 563 vacancies through that. New internal only recruitments are recruitments that are promotional opportunities typically and are just open to current county employees to apply to, and that was 131. So in the calendar year 2024 we filled 965 vacancies and had a total of 18,666 applications. That's 2,000 more applications than we had the previous year so you're seeing a significant increase in our applicant pool However, I will talk about this a little bit later. Finding qualified applicants for some of these positions is still very challenging.

Retention information. I mentioned earlier how people leave for a variety of reasons at the county and create different vacancies. Retirements, we had 125. Involuntary separations we had 56 and then voluntary separations we had 285. We then also created vacancies because of internal movement through promotions, transfers, and demotions. And then newly budgeted positions that were added outside of the annual budgeting cycle so that created a total of 939.1 vacancies throughout the year and our annual staffing turnover rate if 9.5 per 6 is pretty interstate industry standard The way that was calculated was taking the number of separations. So those first three lines of retirement, involuntary separations and voluntary separations totaled 466 and we divided that by the budgeted FTE at the end of the year to get our annual staffing turnover rate.

So one of the big portions of Assembly Bill 2561 is providing vacancy information by represented bargaining units. As of December 31st, 2024, the vacancy rate for each bargaining group was under 20 percent with the exception of that first bargaining unit which is Bargaining Unit 10 Physicians and Psychiatrists Non-Supervisory. This had a vacancy rate of 27.9%.

All unions were notified if they had any bargaining units with the 20% or higher vacancy rate and of their right to request additional information at the public hearing on their specific bargaining units. At this time, County HR did not receive a request for additional information to be provided on Bargaining Unit 10. And we have our additional represented bargaining units listed up here. None of them have over 20% vacancy rate.

And then, we have a group of employment positions that are unrepresented be that managers, supervisors, department heads etc. They've all been grouped together as they have no union representation and you can see that the vacancy rate for this group is 10.6%. So the statute does require us to identify any necessary changes to policies, procedures and recruitment activities that may lead to obstacles in the hiring process.

We identified the following obstacles. The first being the cost of living and housing in Santa Barbara. Now that was just presented by our presentation right before this but it is a reality that it is challenging And so that is something that potential applicants and candidates consider when accepting jobs and being able to move and afford to live in the area.

Additionally, I outlined our process for civil service recruiting. I'm sure you saw that it was a time consuming and at times difficult process to get through. And so that can be challenging for us when we are trying to compete with private sector hiring that doesn't require all of And then while we've taken steps to continue broadening our outreach and marketing through different recruiting and marketing platforms such as social media, LinkedIn etc., we still have challenges in finding qualified applicants particularly for some of our hard-to-fill positions.

Another challenge is that many of our classification specifications are outdated or haven't been revised in many years And then lastly, our health benefits and the cost to add families or children to plans has been cited as a reason for declining job offers or leaving the county. This board though in the county have made significant strides to address this by increasing county contributions to employee plus one and employee plus family sponsored plans.

We believe that with the 2025 increases going into effect we'll be in a strong spot to support our employees having rich health benefits and being able to add their children and families onto the plans. So while the statute only required that we identify the challenges that lead to obstacles in the hiring process, we did want to take some time to share what County HR has already been doing to address those challenges and a lot of the things I'm about to cover are things that we were already working on even prior to this legislation going into effect.

So a couple years ago when we noted that the challenges with filling the custody deputy position was becoming a larger issue, we created the employee referral program We recognize having 4,800 plus employees are probably one of our greatest recruitment tools that we can use because they can help support us in identifying friends family and community members who would be strong additions to the county. So we will be looking to expand the employee referral program to other hard-to-fill positions and just encouraging our employees to continue referring strong candidates to the county And while we work closely with hiring managers, we are going to be more intentional in encouraging hiring managers and departments to consider how do we look at profession-specific marketing strategies.

Are there other professional associations or boards or conferences or other opportunities that we can market and advertise positions and find qualified candidates that would be searching for jobs? Another goal we have is to develop a classification update plan that would allow us to strategically look at job families and outdated classifications on a set schedule, determine if those classifications need to be updated and then taking the steps and doing the work to do so.

We initially took some larger civil service rules for updates and revisions a couple years ago to the board, and you all passed those. And since then in this really this past year we've had a working committee of HR professionals and that's a few different departments that are represented on that working committee along with County Council and ourselves that are actually doing a deeper dive into our current civil service rules and they're identifying recruitment rules and other rules that can be adjusted or changed to help streamline our hiring process Our goal is to bring forth those suggested changes to the board this next fiscal year.

And lastly, with Workday coming on board really once we focus on phase two the people and human resources side. We know that we'll have better tools to be able to track the talent pools and how people move within the county and finding ways to identify those talent pools and focus on more internal professional development and helping employees develop and identify different career paths for how to stay within the county and increase our retention efforts.

So the statute does allow for any recognized employee organization for a bargaining unit to make a presentation to the board addressing the status of vacancies and recruitment and retention efforts. We presented this opportunity to all unions on May 6th and received a response solely from Service Employee International Union or SEIU 721, and they will be making a presentation so I'm going to invite them up if they're here are

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:31:02 · ≈ 1:31 PM

they? Okay.

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.694:31:10 · ≈ 1:31 PM

Chair Kaps and members of the board. I do believe they were here earlier, but they had to leave. They had some time constraints

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed4:31:16 · ≈ 1:31 PM

so

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.694:31:16 · ≈ 1:31 PM

they're no longer present.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed4:31:20 · ≈ 1:31 PM

So then we'll get that will be public comment. We'll turn it over for questions from the board and then we will go from there. Great thank you

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:31:34 · ≈ 1:31 PM

Yes, surprisingly.

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.794:31:36 · ≈ 1:31 PM

So while when I was in Carpinteria always see this practice that cities will approach other cities or county vice versa about hey come over here we got it much better do we have that type of unofficial approach?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed4:31:53 · ≈ 1:31 PM

Yeah, that does happen. I think one of the things that we've been intentional about this year is we did start the Regional Public Leadership Academies which was an academy that has participants from the City of Santa Barbara, City of Carpinteria, City of Goleta and the County. And the goal is really for us to develop stronger leaders within our region and somewhat with understanding that at times there might be movement within the different local agencies but to hopefully retain local leaders within this region.

CommentYvonne TorresProposedself-stated4:32:26 · ≈ 1:32 PM

Supervisor Lee through the chair. It's we don't have intentional poaching, but I think based on you know when other municipalities see the county and then they want to come over than they do it's not often that we lose staffed cities for now.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:32:42 · ≈ 1:32 PM

Where did your department head come from? I'm

CommentYvonne TorresProposedself-stated4:32:47 · ≈ 1:32 PM

glad they did so just.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:33:14 · ≈ 1:33 PM

I guess if a department head, I'm not asking for any names here but what are the services or supports that you provide if there's vacancies yet that department head isn't really necessarily diving in to try to solve that? Do you see what I'm saying? What services, how hands on can you all be if you see some real oversight that there are some vacancies and then not a lot of effort is going into it.

CommentYvonne TorresProposedself-stated4:33:42 · ≈ 1:33 PM

I'm going to turn it over to you, Mr. Chairman. So what we've done is we've gotten together with departments, we worked with them and we've established strategies on how to go out. And if it's to the community colleges or getting interns or how we can do it, we have helped them. We've assisted.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:34:28 · ≈ 1:34 PM

And Supervisor, if I might add Chair Caps that my office meets quarterly with the departments. We go over their budgets quarterly and so at that time we also ask for their vacancies interview that with them and ask why there's vacancies what's their plan is it a recruitment issue? Is it organizational issue are they holding them vacant for management issues or for budgetary issues? So we delve into that

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:34:49 · ≈ 1:34 PM

I appreciate that because I just do really, you know sometimes we hear oh we don't have the staff for that and I know that's just a factor of work life. We can't do that project because we're short-staffed but I just worry about the burnout. I worry about the impact that means for everybody else and so while this new law is a little annoying, the fact it doesn't apply to the state that passed it But I do appreciate the focus because I just again, I hear that enough where I think okay. Are we doing all we can to make sure that those positions are filled so that the work gets done and or a so that the work gets done and be so that it doesn't fall on those who you know are just quietly working along and doing their jobs. So I appreciate the intent behind this focus that's required by law now.

And I had this question for our CEO and when we met but just I I just want to make sure that we clearly understand what happens to the funding. If positions go unfilled for quite some time is it just sitting there can be used

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:35:51 · ≈ 1:35 PM

Thank you, Chair Kaps. So for general fund departments if there's vacancies and they go unfilled at the end of the year they'll fall to the bottom line and they go into the general fund fund balances which when you see our reports about how much savings we have a year in savings that's what it is and it's for your board then to decide how do you want to allocate that? In the past we funded it for capital projects For non-general fund departments, it goes to their bottom line as well. So public health for example or behavioral wellness they're not general fund departments it goes to their bottom line as well and it's there for their fund balance and as we know we've had to dip into fund balances to help the department's operating budgets so that's where it goes.

It doesn't just I mean on a one time basis in the next year it will be funded if it's appropriated and if the department doesn't fill it again it goes to their fund balances typically

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:36:40 · ≈ 1:36 PM

And do you think, are we inching towards a scenario where we'd have to pass some sort of policy that if positions are unfunded for a length of time then they're eliminated?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:36:52 · ≈ 1:36 PM

Supervisor, you did ask us to do that and so we do have a budget policy to that degree. I would just be careful because in a year where we're looking ahead at reductions most likely or we're looking at tighter budgets, we're asking departments to manage their vacancies We already have something called salary savings in their budgets so we rely on some just churn and they're going to have some salary savings to manage their budgets. So, we're working with the departments to figure out how they...so that they're not appropriating funds they don't need but also that if they have those vacancies and they're trying to fill them, if they don''t fill them they're not going to get penalized or actually looking at how they can, if they're using it as a management tool.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:37:33 · ≈ 1:37 PM

Great, I think Supervisor Lavagnino said this at a recent hearing but you know there's about 500 jobs out there openings. I believe that's right so anybody paying attention it's a good place to check out, good place to work. Okay public

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.694:37:45 · ≈ 1:37 PM

comment please if there is any. Chair Caps and members of the board we have one request to speak from the public on this item. We're going to remain here in Santa Maria with Leo DeCasas.

PresenterLeo Deca-Salvesover 2Proposedself-stated4:38:03 · ≈ 1:38 PM

Good afternoon, County Board of Supervisors to the Chair. My name is Leo Deca-Salves. I'm currently a field representative with SEIU Local 620 representing over 2,000 employees here at the County of Santa Barbara. First we want to thank the county for implementing these public hearing procedures on vacancies recruitment retention in accordance with this law. We also appreciate the Human Resources Department today for compiling and presenting today's data The information presented today is critical to our union and the membership that we represent.

We want to acknowledge and commend the county for the progress made reducing total vacancies between January and December demonstrates an active commitment to addressing staffing shortages. Furthermore, the county's willingness to engage in fair contract negotiations and ensure wages remain competitive especially in the face of inflation, shows a clear investment in this workforce.

At the same time we must acknowledge that much more work remains to be done. Low pay and inequity in certain classifications will lead to higher turnover and difficulty recruiting employees. For example, the social services case aid classification starts at just 24 bucks an hour Addressing wage discrepancies for classifications that have been identified to be under the market by the county and the union will ensure that we recruit and retain the best talent there is.

Currently between the bargaining units that we represent and from the data compiled by our HR, there are 293 vacant positions within SEIU Local 620. Persistent vacancies place a tremendous burden on existing staff and ultimately compromise the quality of services our community relies heavily upon. While we understand that voluntary separations identified as the top reason for employee departures cannot always be prevented, the working conditions that lead to burnout and resignation can be addressed.

Ensuring departments are adequately staffed is one of the most effective tools for retention. Employees who feel supported and resourced are far more likely to stay and thrive here We respectfully urge the county to continue prioritizing the reduction of vacancy rates and to take proactive steps to retain the experienced employees who keep this county running every single day.

In closing, Local 620 remains committed to our partnership with the county Our staff and membership stand ready to collaborate in building a stronger and sustainable public workforce to ensure that the county remains a premier employer in public service. Thank you.

PresenterJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.694:41:10 · ≈ 1:41 PM

And that concludes public comment on this item.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:41:12 · ≈ 1:41 PM

Thank you, any closing comments or questions? Are we good?

CommentMadam ClerkProposed · by introduction4:41:16 · ≈ 1:41 PM

It's a quick, quick question on this

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:41:19 · ≈ 1:41 PM

hearing itself. You know what? This is another one that's required by the state. Obviously the truth act is the other night I had learned over last year that not recounting does the truth act and I don't know if that's how they're getting away with that but I was just kind of curious are these always having to be at Board of Supervisors meetings or their other alternative routes to doing hearings that might you know This room right now, there's not a lot of people in it. It's just kind of our normal course of business. We all get paid to be here but you know maybe the truth act and maybe this hearing in the future might be better served.

Maybe not as part of regular scheduled board hearing and I don't know if there's another process that the county can exercise and I don' t know if it needs a quorum of the board or is just that the county needs to hold the hearing so I just would maybe ask staff and CEO and County Council look at that You know, maybe these other counties are having these hearings but they're not necessarily as part of the Board of Supervisors. Maybe it's some other kind of fashion.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed4:42:18 · ≈ 1:42 PM

Supervisor Nelson to the chair will certainly look at that. I know for the truth act we did look at that and it says the board is withholding the meeting and it's a meeting of the board is holding you're inviting the sheriff to participate because the sheriff has information but we can, that's a good idea just to look as a second take on a lot of these required mandates from the state. Thank

CommentNoah BolandProposed · by introduction4:42:40 · ≈ 1:42 PM

you.

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ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:42:43 · ≈ 1:42 PM

Okay, thanks so much. Thank you to the Human Resources Department.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed4:42:47 · ≈ 1:42 PM

I'll go ahead and make the motion of A through C. Second.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.744:42:51 · ≈ 1:42 PM

All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Alright with that we are adjourned to Tuesday 17th our fiscal budget hearings in Santa Barbara. Thanks