BodyBoard of Supervisors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 September 22, 2026

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:01

All right, good morning. I'll call to order the September 22nd 2026 regular meeting in the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. Madam Clerk can you please call the roll?

Roll call, called by Jacquelyne Alexander
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Supervisor Katz? Here. Supervisor Hartman? Supervisor Lavinino? Here Supervisor Lee? Here and Chair Nelson? Here Let the record reflect that Supervisor Hartman is absent
ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:20

at this time

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:21

but will be arriving shortly so Madam Clerk are there any announcements or changes to our agenda today?

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:30

Chair Nelson and members of the board, I do have a few announcements this morning. An addendum was posted on Friday September 18th 2026 amending today's closed session agenda adding an 8am closed session and an item under conference with legal counsel existing litigation paragraph one of subdivision D of government code section 54956.9 regarding G&K Produce LLC and K&G Flowers LLC v County of Santa Barbara et al Office of Administrative Hearings Case numbers 202-605-0515, as well as G&K Produce LLC and K&G Flowers LLC v. County of Santa Barbara et al., Santa Barbara County Superior Court case number 26CV04238. The addition included in this addendum has been posted and made available online to both the board and the public.

And for information on the Board of Supervisors methods of public participation and instructions on how to provide public comment on items listed on today's agenda or during general public comment, please refer to page 2 of the agenda. Individuals who wish to provide verbal public comment may do so via Zoom by registering in advance using the link provided on page two. Please note that Zoom is available solely for the purpose of providing verbal public comment and is not intended for viewing the meeting. Alternative viewing options are listed on page 2 of the agenda. If you have any questions, please contact the clerk at the board's office at area code 805-568-2240 or by email at sbcobatcountyofsb.org that concludes my announcements for today.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:01

All right. Thank you madam clerk at this time will now recess a closed session will County Council please read the items for consideration today?

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CommentMaureen EllenbergerProposed · by introduction3:08

Thank you, Mister chair in closed session today. There's one I anticipated litigation of deciding whether to initiate litigation and then there is existing litigation stable offshore core County. GK produce versus the county which is office administrative hearings a G K produce versus the county superior court case and public employee appointment director social services.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:34

Okay, great. And let the record reflect that Supervisor Hartman has joined us as well. So with that we'll go ahead and head to closed session. We will be about an hour so we'll try to reconvene at 9 a.m. with our regularly scheduled items. Thank you. All right welcome back We'll go ahead and reconvene the meeting of September 22nd, 2026. Regularly scheduled meeting of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors. Those that are watching on TV and here in the room we actually started a meeting at 8am so that the board could break for closed session. Now we're reconvening after closed session. And with that Madam County Council can you please report out from closed session?

CommentMaureen EllenbergerProposed · by introduction4:21

Thank you, Mister chair in closed session. The board considered one item of anticipated litigation deciding whether to initiate litigation and existing litigations able offshore course, the county GMK produce versus the county opposite ministry hearing case and GK produce versus the county for Santa Barbara Superior Court and the board took no reportable action.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role4:49

All right, so we say Pledge of Allegiance for all of us. So if you all stand and join us in pledging allegiance to our flag. Ready? Begin.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed5:05

and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:20

Our next item of business is approval of the minutes from the September 15th meeting.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.875:25

Hartman moves approval. I'll second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role5:28

Okay, motion for Hartman, a second from Caps. Any further comment? Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes unanimously.

Next item of business is CEO report. Ms. Peterson do you have anything to report this morning?

GovJana PetersenCounty Executive OfficerProposedvoiceprint 0.915:45

Chair and members of the board, I have three items to report today. We're going to start with County Health. The County Health Department hosted its fourth annual back-to-school health fairs last month in Santa Maria, Lompoc, and Santa Barbara. More than 3,500 community members received health services and family resources. The events offered school mandated immunizations, sports physicals, free school supplies, and dental and hygiene kits.

County Health along with 50 community partners connected families with programs and information related to food and nutrition, health coverage, mental health, preventive care and the services available through county health centers. Across the three health fairs 33 students received vaccines 44 receive sports physicals and 1800 backpacks were distributed to help families prepare for the new school year I want to highlight that the County of Santa Barbara will host its annual Vendor Connection event on October 14th from 9 a.m. to noon at the Casa Nueva building in Santa Barbara. The free event will give local businesses and community partners an opportunity to learn about how to do business with Santa Barbara County. Attendees will learn about county purchasing, connect with vendors and agencies, and meet directly with the county's procurement team If you are interested in attending, please RSVP by October 9.

And finally I want to share that the community El Nino preparedness meeting is coming up. The County of Santa Barbara will host a virtual El Nino community meeting on October 1st 2026 from 530 to 7 p.m.. The meeting will provide residents with information on the weather outlook County Creek and road preparations, personal preparedness and key storm and flood safety tips to help residents prepare for potential winter weather impacts.

Spanish interpretation and closed captioning will be available. Registration information can be found on the county's website. And that concludes my report.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role7:59

All right. Thank you Miss Peterson.

Next item of business is administrative agenda. Would any board members like to pull any items on today's agenda?

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.948:09

Well, A8 but I believe it's been pulled.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role8:11

Anybody think down there? Okay. All right so I think we have A8 being pulled from the board as well as A23 and then I think right now we have the public point A18, 16 and 23. Is there any other items that are being pulled by the public?

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.758:29

Chair Nelson members of the Board just a quick clarification it's A8 And A-23 and A-16 is no longer being pulled.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role8:37

Okay, and then A-17 is going to be pulled for a separate vote? Supervisor Hartman I think out of abundance of caution is gonna recuse on that one. A-8's been pulled as well. A 17. A 8 as well okay. All right so can I get a motion to approve the balance of agenda. So it's all the administrative agenda items except for A8, 17 and 23. So

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.949:10

moved.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role9:12

Motion from Caps, second from Labanino. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion passes unanimously. Before we get to those items, we're going to go ahead and move on to our resolutions to be presented And Madam Clerk, will you please read administrative item number one into the record.

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ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.759:33

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mister chair Nelson and members of the board administrative item number one is sponsored by supervisor Nelson. It is to adopt a resolution honoring 60 years of regional partnership through the Santa Barbara County Association of governments also known as SB CAG and joining us in person today. If you can please make your way to the podium. We have Andrea Geis, GFO and Human Resources Director. Sarkis Kacek, Director of Programming. Mike Becker, Director of Planning. And Aaron Bonfilio, Director Of Multi-Model Programs.

I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Whereas, for 60 years local governments throughout Santa Barbara County have worked together through a regional partnership to address shared challenges and advance solutions that cross jurisdictional boundaries. And whereas on October 17th 1966 the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors authorized the county's partnership in the joint powers agreement establishing the Santa Barbara County and City's Area Planning Council And whereas nine days later, representatives from the county and the cities of Carpinteria, Guadalupe, Lompoc, Santa Barbara and Santa Maria held the council's first organizational meeting launching a regional partnership that has endured and grown for 60 years.

And whereas the partnership was created during a period of significant growth and change when local leaders recognize that regional coordination could help communities address challenges extending beyond individual city and county boundaries and qualify for state and federal funding. And whereas over the decades, the organization evolved alongside the region it serves assuming important state and federal transportation planning and funding responsibilities And in 1990, becoming the independent public agency known as the Santa Barbara County Association of Governments or SBCAG while continuing the regional partnership established in 1966. And whereas today SBCAG brings together all five members of the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors and representatives from each of the county's eight incorporated cities, Builton, Carpinteria, Goleta, Guadalupe, Lompoc, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria and Solvang providing a forum for communities with different needs and perspectives to work together on issues affecting the region as a whole And whereas Santa Barbara County voters demonstrated their commitment to regional transportation investment through approval of Measure D in 1989 and Measure A in 2008, providing locally controlled funding for transportation priorities throughout the county and helping leverage significant state and federal resources.

And whereas the regional planning funding advocacy and partnerships as speak AG has helped advance investments in highways, local streets and roads public transit passenger rail bicycle and pedestrian connections and other improvements that connect people to jobs schools services and communities throughout our county. And whereas while Santa Barbara County has changed considerably over 6 decades the principal at the heart of sbcad remains consistent Some challenges extend beyond jurisdictional boundaries, and our communities can accomplish more by working together. Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors hereby commemorates the 60th anniversary of SBCAG and recognizes six decades of collaboration among the cities and county of Santa Barbara to address shared regional needs, and be it further resolved that this county of Santa Barbara as a founding member of this regional partnership proudly recognizes its 60-year commitment to regional collaboration honors the generations of county and city leaders who have carried the commitment forward, and reaffirms the value of working across jurisdictional boundaries to advance shared priorities and build better communities throughout Santa Barbara County.

Passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed13:17

Thank you so much. That was such a long resolution, so thank you for reading all that and I'm so surprised you guys have so much space up there normally we have 13 board members squeezed in on the dais and today it's only the five of you which you are all members of SBCAG so you know how much this means to the agency So Chair Nelson, members of the board thank you for this recognition. I want to start by taking us back six years in July of 1966 the Santa Barbara News Press ran a headline that said new regional planning rule may spur unity within the county.

I just love that headline it's what we've been doing for the last 60 years Santa Barbara County is made up of very different communities, each with its own priorities and perspectives. But SPCAG gives us a chance to bring those perspectives together and work on things that cross our city and county boundaries. One detail from our history really stood out to me as we prepared for this anniversary.

One of the real practical reasons why the local governments came together in 1966 was to get some money, to secure the funding. They were applying for funding for parks at Rincon, Aurora Borough, Isla Vista Beach Park and Tucker's Grove so it really meant something to them to work together to achieve that goal In 60 years, our communities recognize that working together put this region in a stronger position to bring state and federal investments home to Santa Barbara County.

We are still doing that today and every day. One of the clearest examples, obviously is the Highway 101 project between Ventura County and the City of Santa Barbara. For decades we've had bottleneck on the highway where the freeway goes from three lanes and back to two lanes and back to three lanes. We are finally closing that gap I know it's taken a long time and we're all been very patient, but we're adding that peak hour carpool lane in each direction between the Ventura County line in the city of Santa Barbara.

And you know, I always like to say the 101 is almost done. Getting there has been extraordinary partnership is taking countywide voters who approved Measure D back in 1998 and Measure A in 2008 to provide the local investment that allowed us to compete for the state and federal funding that we received. It has taken SBCAG Board, Caltrans, the County of Santa Barbara, the cities of Carpentry and Santa Barbara and our partners in Ventura County and the Ventura County Transportation Commission. And the years of advocacy and patience to get us to this point.

We are expected to complete the Montecito segment by the end of the calendar year so people can enjoy the new open carpool lanes that will open up in that area. We're still working on the final segment at the Cabrillo overpass and interchange, and that will continue until 2028 when we'll be finally done with the 101. Decades of local investment in our regional advocacy have helped us leverage more than $760 million in state and federal resources for this corridor. And we couldn't have done that on our own. It took a partnership, it took the dedication of the SPCAC board of years and years and years to make that happen.

And that partnership was throughout the county not just on the South Coast. But in Santa Maria and Orca, we have some work going on there too. We're working with the county and the city of Santa Maria and Caltrans to do the State Route 135 Comprehensive Corridor Study listening to the community as we plan the corridor's long-term transportation needs. And then in the San Ynez Valley, we are working with the county, the Bilton, Solvayne, the San Yenez Band of Chumash Indians on the San Ynez Valley Trail Project And planning approximately nine miles of multi-use trail, asking the community to help us plan and design those connections.

Those projects are very different just as the communities they serve are very different but the idea behind them is the same idea that brought our communities together 60 years ago. Some things work better when we work on them together That's why this anniversary means so much to me. Not simply that SBCAG has been here for 60 years and doing our jobs, but what the communities have accomplished together and what we are still working on and working together to accomplish in the future.

So on behalf of the SBCAG board which you are all members of, and then the staff behind me, thank you so much for this recognition and especially thank you to the County Board of Supervisors. You were there at the beginning And you're there throughout, and your partnership remains essential to the work we do today. So thank you again for your continued participation and support. Thank you.

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ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.9318:35

Supervisor Labanino? Well thank you Margie. You know I said earlier that it's a little sad that I found out I was older than SP CAG so but That is, it's one of my favorite meetings to go to because it is the time where we all get together with our city folk and we all get to listen to each other's different perspectives which are very different. And then we all get to agree on what we're gonna do moving forward. I just wanted to congratulate you and the leadership and your staff.

The people that put their trust in you, I mean, we passed Measure A with 80%, close to 80%? Almost 80%. People voted to tax themselves At an 80% rate. And the reason why they did that is because SBCAD continues to deliver and I think the beauty of Measure A was people don't like paying taxes, but if you show them a menu and say these are the things we're going to accomplish And then 20 years later, you can say here's the checklist and we've done them all. It's amazing. And to the folks that say 101 is taking a long time, it is. I would like to remind you, it is a billion dollar project. This is not just some easy resurface job. This is a billion dollars remaking that entire way. So also want to highlight, you said of $760 million leverage.

So folks, that means we put in 300 million of our local dollars We got back, the whole project's over a billion. So we received 700 million back. So Measure A complete success. It's done all the projects that we've asked for in the North County. I think we've delivered and continued success. Again it's one of my favorite meetings to go to and it's a lot of, a lot of it goes to the staff and the leadership that you provided so thank you. Thank you so

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed20:18

much.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role20:19

All right thank you Supervisor Alino. And that's the one thing you're gonna come back to once you retire right?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.9320:24

The only meeting or thing I'm going to is cutting the ribbon on the 101 so save me a spot there.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed20:29

It's gonna be party in the streets, yes.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role20:31

Absolutely. All right well thank you Supervisor Lavinio and thank you Director Kern and staff. Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed20:35

you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role20:36

All right we'll go ahead and move along to administrative item number two. Madam Clerk can you please read that item into the record?

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ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.7520:42

Chair Nelson and members of the board administrative item number 2 is sponsored by Supervisor Lee. It is to adopt a resolution commending the Carpentry Avocado Festival on its 40th anniversary and joining us in person today, if you can please make your way to the podium we have Mike Lazaro, Avocado Festival Board member and Olivia Sorgman, festival director.

I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Whereas the Carpinteria Avocado Festival is celebrating its 40th anniversary as one of Santa Barbara County's most cherished community traditions, and whereas for four decades the festival has honored Carpinteria's agricultural heritage I'm here to speak on behalf of the region's longstanding agricultural history. Local businesses, nonprofit organizations, artists, musicians, volunteers and families whose ongoing commitment keeps this tradition vibrant and whereas the region's long-standing agricultural history particularly avocado cultivation continues to shape identity in economy of carpentry at And whereas the festival brings together thousands of residents and visitors each year to enjoy local food, music arts crafts community booths and family activities that showcase the unique character of downtown Carpinteria.

and highlight the contributions of local businesses and performers. And whereas the festival's enduring success over 40 years reflects the hard work of its organizers, sponsors, volunteers, city partners, and community members whose time energy and collaboration have made the event a beloved annual celebration that strengthens community pride and economic vitality Now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors hereby recognizes and commends the Carpentry Avocado Festival on its 40th anniversary, and celebrates its outstanding contributions to the cultural, agricultural, and economic life of Santa Barbara County. Passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed22:37

We just wanted to say thank you so much. What started as this tradition in Carpinteria 40 years ago is amazing to see what it's grown into now. We're so honored that we are able to bring this to the community and just thank you to everybody for all of the support for it. It wouldn't happen without all the volunteers and the board and all the community members Make this weekend so special and huge thank you to all of you and Roy and Salud for always supporting this. For us, we wouldn't be able to have three days of peace, love and guacamole without all this support. And if you haven't made it, you should come this year. We have 60 bands on four stages with kids performing on the stages for two full days.

And we just love this tradition in carpentry. And so we just invite all of you to be there. And thank you so much for this honor.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role23:25

One second, one second. Supervisor Lee?

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.8623:27

Thank you. So every year our sleepy small town becomes the center of the county over a lot of people come through and it's a free event, free music and this year on Friday I'll be in the dunk tank so anybody that wants to dunk a supervisor please come out and do it thank you. Thank you

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role23:48

all right moving right along to item number three

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ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.7523:53

Chair Nelson and members of the board. Administrative item number 3 is sponsored by Supervisor Lee. It is to adopt a resolution of commendation honoring the Santa Barbara Foresters, the 2026 National Baseball Congress World Series champions. And joining us in person today we have Bill Pintard head coach and executive director of the Santa Barbara Foresters.

Whereas on August 1st, 2026 in Wichita Kansas the Santa Barbara Foresters our namesake California Collegiate League baseball team won the 2026 National Baseball Congress World Series Championship and set a new record with their 11th title. And whereas en route to the title game the Forresters won the California Collegiate League South Division regular season with a dominant 26-6 record Leading the league in nearly every statistical category and carrying that momentum into the World Series tournament.

And whereas the Forresters brought their signature teamwork and spirit to the World Series by finishing an undefeated 6-0 outscoring opponents 49-4, including four shoutouts culminating in a 7-2 victory over the Alaska Gold Panthers in the championship game with pitcher Noah Waldeck named most valuable player of the tournament with a flawless 2-0 record and zero runs allowed Along with five other Forresters playing selected to the all-tournament team. And whereas veteran manager Bill Pintard who has served since 1995 secured his 11th World Series title and over 1,200 career wins continuing a legacy that has sent more than 70 Forrester's alumni to Major League Baseball and hundreds more to minor league organizations. And whereas beyond athletic excellence the Forrester's organization champions community support Through their Hugs for Cubs cancer support program for children founded in 1993 by Bill Hentart and his son Eric, a former player who bravely fought the cancer that took his life in 2004.

Hugs For Cubs organizes hospital visits holiday gifts surf days trips to MLB games and other activities that uplift young patients in Santa Barbara and on the road Now, therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors of the County of Santa Barbara does hereby commend the Santa Barbara Foresters for their exceptional 2026 NBC World Series Championship celebrating their enduring leadership athletic skill and philanthropic spirit and acknowledge the profound positive impact they have on our community past and adopted today.

PresenterBill Pintardour board of directorsProposedself-stated26:29

Thank you very much. I'm Bill Pintard and we could not do what we do without a great board of directors. And this is the president of our board of directors, Christina Sanger who's been with us more than 14 years and she has as much to do with this as I do. I'm very honored to receive this but I wanna thank you, the Board of Supervisors For your hard work in making the place where we live a better place.

And my salute to you, you don't have easy jobs and we love what you're doing and you just make it a better place. It makes my job lot easier too when I recruit players that come from Texas and Oklahoma And Florida and Arkansas, and they come out here in the best thing that they got. I like to say it's good coaching. They got the weather of Santa Barbara and it is a recruiting tool. But right now we're proud of what we have achieved on this ball field. This tournament has been going on for 92 years.

This tournament, it was the first tournament. It was integrated 12 years before Major League Baseball was integrated and that's two values. It's Americana by value. Satchel Paige played in this. Right now we have 26 guys that have played right here in Santa Barbara currently playing in the big leagues. Right at this minute we've had 75 total. We're also very proud of the Hugs for Cubs that we got started, and we also have a side project now which is going on. It's Eric's House, which is named after my son Eric.

We just bought a property and it's gonna be a mini Ronald McDonald house. For families that are from out of the area when they come to Santa Barbara for pediatric treatments, they have a place to stay for free. So that's as much as this trophy means something we're doing things on and off the field and we're very grateful. I brought this trophy to let you guys have it for a while, but Roy says he doesn't have any place safe. So I don't know what we're going to do with it.

But anyway, we are having a party Sunday to celebrate our victory at Carriage Museum at three o'clock. We're gonna have some music. We're gonna have some tri-tip barbecue and we're gonna have a lot of fun. So you're all welcome. You all too. So thank you very much.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role29:15

Thank you Supervisor Lee.

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.8629:17

Quickly Bill I just, I know that this won't be your last championship so hopefully the trophy will be bigger next time and I'll take it. I'll find a safe place for it. My staff I don't know they might take it somewhere and party with it.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role29:35

All right thank you. So our

next item of business is sorry I'm going to show item number four. Madam Clerk will you please read that into the record?

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.7529:42

Turn Nelson and members of the board administrative item number 4 sponsored by Supervisor Lee. It is to adopt a resolution of commendation honoring Greg Carty for a lifetime of community service in joining us in person today. We have Greg Carty who is making his way down to the podium and I'll go ahead and read the resolution. Whereas Greg A. Carty has called Carpinteria home since 1959, one of seven children raised by educators Daphne and Bill Dock Carty a proud Carpinteria high school warrior and champion track athlete in the class of 1972. And with his wife, Jerry Ann, the devoted grandfather of four grandchildren with the fifth on the way. And whereas as co-founder of Cardi Brothers Construction and a licensed general contractor for 50 years He completed hundreds of projects across Santa Barbara County and gave his craft back to his community, rebuilding the stage of the historic Alcazar Theater.

Donating more than a year of construction services to create the Linda Fairley Carpinteria Arts Center and helping build the Carpinteria Visitor's Center on Linden Avenue. And whereas he devoted more than three decades to public service including 12 years on the Carpinteria Architectural Review Board He served as mayor of Carpinteria for 16 years. 16 years on the carbon tree, a city council from 2006 to 2022 2 terms as mayor and regional service including beacon and the South Coast task force on youth games. And whereas his leadership help secure the permanent preservation of the ring con blast preserve and steady Carpentaria through the Thomas fire during which he personally helped alert residents on Shepherd Mesa And whereas he serves the Rotary Club of Carpinteria as community services director and fundraising chair, volunteered with the California Avocado Festival for more than 30 years.

Coach track at Bishop Diego High School teaches woodshop and gardening electives at Our Lady of Mount Carmel school and together with Jerry Ann was named 2022 Carpinteria of the Year, an honor now held by five members of their family. And now therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors of the County of Santa Barbara does hereby recognize Greg A. Carty for a lifetime of extraordinary service to the Carpinteria community and extends its deepest gratitude on behalf of the residents of the first district in the entire county pass and adopt it today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed32:13

Wow. Like Bill Pintard said, a dear family friend of mine. I want to thank you each of you for your service to the Santa Barbara County. Growing up as a child in Carpinteria it was the child's dream. It was an incredible childhood and my parents taught me early on to be part of the community. I was a young boy They taught me by example in my kids. I have two daughters, Caitlin and Angela. They saw that influence from my parents, their grandparents and also my wife's Marilyn and Joe Lazaro which he's here the son is here this And I just want to influence how important family is with, I have four grandkids now and one on the way.

And grandparents play a key role in who they are and who they will become. You know, it just I'm so blessed to have grown up in the community of Carpinteria. There are so many people that do so much for that community. I'm not one that likes to be recognized like I am right now but I can tell you it sure feels good and I will cherish this for the rest of my life.

Thank you very much.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role34:00

Supervisor Lee.

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.8634:01

Thank you, thank you Chair Nielsen. Greg I just want to say when I first got onto the Carp City Council, I want to say thank you for being an amazing friend and mentor to me because I wouldn't be who I am without you. And our community, the carpenter community wouldn't be where it is, who we are without you being there for us so thank you. Keep doing what you're doing everyone loves you so I'm so happy you're here with your family Thank you. Thank you for being here.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role34:43

All right, next item up is our last presentation which is administrative item number five and I'm quickly please read that in the record.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.7534:50

Chair Nelson and members of the Board, Administrative Item number 5 is sponsored by Supervisor Lee. It is to adopt a resolution of commendation honoring Maria D. Lee upon her retirement from the County Health Department after over 39 years of faithful and distinguished service to the citizens of Santa Barbara County. And joining us in person today we have Maria D Lee And Lindsay Walter and it looks like a few others are making their way to the podium. I'll go ahead and read the resolution, whereas Maria Daly has dedicated over 39 years of valued service to the residents of Santa Barbara County holding the role of medical assistant at the Santa Barbara Health Center And whereas Maria began her distinguished career with the Santa Barbara County Health Department on August 10th, 1987 providing clinical support at the Santa Barbara Health Center in adult medicine and across various specialty clinics with steadfast dedication and diligence.

And whereas throughout her many years of service, Maria has made a profound impact on patients by providing compassionate skilled care across multiple specialty clinics including surgery infectious disease and HIV where her dedication, empathy and commitment to patient well-being have supported some of the community's most vulnerable individuals and contributed to improved health outcomes. And whereas throughout her tenure Maria contributed to numerous key milestones including participating in the transition from paper to electronic health records helping orient new team members adapting to evolving workflows assisting with various disaster response efforts and providing reliable support across multiple clinics within Santa Barbara Health Center.

And now, therefore be it hereby ordered and resolved that this Board of Supervisors of the County of Santa Barbara does hereby acknowledge Maria Deely's extraordinary length of service and her unwavering commitment to the health and well-being of the residents of Santa Barbara County. Passed and adopted today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed36:52

Thank you very much. You've been a journey. All these years, I've had fun and enjoyed all these years. And I will miss it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed37:12

Good morning, everyone. My name is Brittany. I am the Nursing Supervisor at the Santa Barbara Healthcare Center and I have had the pleasure of supervising Maria for the last couple of years and working alongside her at the Infectious Disease Clinic at the county. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to honor Maria after 39 years of dedicated service to the Santa Barbara Public Health Department Throughout her remarkable career, Maria has worked in nearly every department of our clinic. Primary care, urgent care, helping women through their pregnancy and specialties including orthopedics, neurology, nephrology, surgery, endocrinology She's a jack of all trades, basically.

Maria has been an incredibly hardworking, reliable, compassionate and nonjudgmental medical assistant whose dedication has left a lasting impact on our patients and our entire team. Her work in the HIV clinic in particular has been profound. She has supported patients through every stage of their disease In the infectious disease clinic, we have cried with patients doing new diagnoses. We have held hands through some of the hardest moments, celebrated their recoveries and mourned many losses together.

Through it all Maria has been a steady comforting presence, someone patients trusted deeply during their most vulnerable times. Sometimes patients call and they say I only want to talk to Maria. In 2017 Maria was recognized as a local hero for her contributions to the HIV clinic and her compassionate care. This honor reflects what we have all known for decades, her kindness strength and unwavering dedication have shaped our clinic in our community in immeasurable ways.

Maria thank you for your remarkable service your humanity the legacy you leave behind.

CommentIzzy SisteckProposedself-stated39:25

We will miss you

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role39:59

That concludes our resolutions and we'll go on to the administrative items that have been pulled either by the board or by the public in numerical order. I think we'll take A8 and 17 first so Supervisor Hartman do you like to make a brief statement before we pick those two items

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.8740:14

up? Yes, I think we wrote to the FPPC but we haven't heard back so abundance of caution given the pipeline runs by my house I will use.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role40:24

All right. So while we give Supervisor Hartman, a chance to step out. Okay. Madam Clerk will you please read administrative item number eight into the record?

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.7540:42

Chair Nelson and members of the board, Administrative Item Number Eight is sponsored by the County Executive Office. It is to consider recommendations regarding adopting an opposed position on the Federal Hunt Amendment. And we have 11 requests to speak from the public on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role40:56

Wow okay. All right, let's try to keep it to two minutes. We've got to get through an administrative items quite a few today and some and a lot of departmental items. Let's try to keep the two minutes probably will give additional deference to our congressman who would also speak on this but for the most part he'll be two minutes on this.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.7541:15

Chair Nelson and members of the board we will begin here in Santa Barbara with Ryan Smith to be followed by our Congressman Salud Carbajal. Ryan?

PresenterRyan SmithEnvironmental Defense CenterProposedself-stated41:26

Thank you. Good morning, Chair Nelson and members of the board. My name is Ryan Smith and I'm a legal fellow with the Environmental Defense Center. I urge you to adopt an opposed position on the Hunt Amendment to the 2027 National Defense Authorization Act. At its core this amendment is about who governs Santa Barbara Washington or the people who live here?

It would let the federal government condemn land within our county and then strip away the tools this board in the state rely on to protect it California could not assert its sovereign immunity to prevent condemnation. Our permitting authority and condemned land would be preempted. State and local approvals, the very mechanisms that give this community a voice would no longer be required.

And the effect could be permanent. If the federal government issues a permanent easement, that license would shield the recipient from local authority in perpetuity. This board will lose its authority over infrastructure inside it's own borders with no path to get it back. This extreme measure is a direct assault on local control and on the Federalist principles to protect every county's right to govern.

It sets a precedent that should alarm all of us. Please adopt the opposed position, and ask our Senators to keep this out of the final NDAA. Thank you.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.7542:45

We will now go to Congressman Salud Carbajal to be followed by Maureen Allenberger. Salud?

CommentGreg A. CartyProposed · by introduction42:56

Good morning. Good morning, Mr. Chair, Chairman Nelson. First I want to welcome our new CEO Jaina Peterson to Santa Barbara County. You're in for a real treat you have a great board and this is a great organization. I know I used to work here. Thank you again. I want to thank the Board of Supervisors for considering Item A8, for giving members of the public an opportunity to make their voices heard on an issue that is so important to our community.

It is always nice to be back before Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors although I certainly wish it was under happier circumstances. I'm here to support your position to oppose The HUNT Amendment, which is currently making its way through the National Defense Authorization Act. And to offer my perspective on how this amendment if enacted could undermine the environmental protections that the county and state have worked so hard to establish.

The HUNT Amendment would set a terrible precedent By allowing the federal government to seize California public lands through eminent domain for the San Ynez pipeline system. A private interest not serving the public's interests. As a reminder, this is the same pipeline responsible for the devastating 2015 oil spill right here in our own backyard. Instead of working with the California laws and the regulatory process to ensure the pipeline can operate safely, SABLE has spent years challenging and seeking to circumvent California's authority in its effort to restart operations.

In fact, the company has pushed so hard that at its request the administration stripped California of its oversight of the pipeline and invoked the World War II Defense Production Act law used for national emergencies to justify and force its restart. But apparently that was not enough. Now Sable is asking its allies in Congress to rig the system in its favor, to seize California lands and to provide a revocable federal pathway to operate the pipeline.

And we are already seeing why these concerns cannot simply be dismissed. Just six months after restarting the pipeline, Sable is now digging up 12 sections of the system after federally mandated inspections identified potential corrosion. That is especially concerning given that corrosion was at the heart of the 2015 Refugio oil spill. That is why this amendment matters.

Congress should not use the NDAA to create a special federal pathway around California law for one pipeline, one private interest project. This is why members of the California delegation and I have joined together to continue fighting this provision at every step Whether through opposing the amendment on the House floor, advocating for its removal in the conference process which is occurring now and speaking out at opportunities like this.

Currently the Senate does not have this. Senate version of the NDAA does not have this provision in it and usually they prevail. And so I'm happy and hopeful that that will carry through to the end. I urge adoption of item eight as proposed And encourage you to protect local control, which is always a principle that local government strives to achieve. Thank you Chairman Nelson and thank you to the rest of the Board of Supervisors. I appreciate the time and coming back here reminds me how great it was to serve on the Board of Supervisors. You guys have an amazing responsibility and do amazing work. Thank you so much.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role46:58

Thank you Congressman.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.7547:00

We will now go to Maureen Ellenberger to be followed by Ethan Madej.

CommentDepartment ItemProposed · by introduction47:06

It's always nice to follow Salud Carbajal speaking. But dear Chair Nelson and supervisors, I want to echo what everyone said to you about the work you do. I'm so proud to have you as our supervisors and I'm proud to be here again and thank you for the opportunity to exercise our democratic rights In 1787, Benjamin Franklin was walking out of the Constitutional Convention and a lady asked him, well sir what have you created?

And he said, she asked a republic or a monarchy. And he said a republic if you can keep it. He was issuing a challenge, Democratic governance requires active defense. We are facing that challenge on many fronts today. The Hunt Amendment targets the Santa Ynez Pipeline, the same pipeline that did cause the spill in 2015 but it's really about establishing that when the federal government wants something nothing can stop it. Not state law, not state courts, not judicial review.

Here's what it actually does. It invokes federal eminent domain to seize California state lands and private lands to hand them over permanently to Sable Offshore Oil, a private company for private profit. It eliminates California's permitting authority. It blocks state injunctions. It gives an irrevocable federal license that even federal courts can't revoke. This is extraordinary. Eminent domain exists to acquire land for public purposes, not for private companies and not for a company that has a record of not respecting the laws that you all have labored over, fought over, built and come to consensus on sometimes.

This is the end of the checks and balances. Yes, today it's oil but once you establish that federal authority overrides state law that court cannot review executive claims about national security that private companies can take over lands from eminent domain what stops it from being applied tomorrow to your freedoms to govern? Thank

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role49:17

You Maureen

CommentDepartment ItemProposed · by introduction49:18

Okay I know I'll stop thank you so much and I hope you approve this letter.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.7549:23

We will now go to Ethan Madej, then we will go to Zoom with Chloe Paravinci. Ethan?

PresenterEthan Madej805 Action and a representative of young people who couldn't be there todayProposedself-stated49:31

Good morning Chair Nielsen and members of the board. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. I'm Ethan Madej the founder and president of 805 Action and a representative of young people who couldn't be there today. Many share the feeling of disappointment in needing to have this meeting but I would first like to say thank you to the county officials for moving this along so quickly.

We've been dealing with Sable for years. Supervisor Lavagnino, at a meeting last November when push came to shove you said something that stuck with me. When you come to a tough decision you either choose comfort or your conscience very rarely do get to do both. Sable didn't care about the law then, and that hasn't changed. They are actively violating an injunction skipping over due process and unconcerned with the law.

They have been charged with five felonies, 16 misdemeanors, and three cease-and-desist orders, record breaking fines from the Coastal Commission. And as inconvenient as it may be, the courts have stood strong on one thing. Sable is not above the law. Sable disagrees. They want the Secretary of the Army to hand them private county and state land, state parks land and they want complete freedom from our State's permitting process. Now let's be very clear this fight for Sable hasn't been about an oil pipeline now we've been fighting For states' rights, for our democracy and for the rule of law. Today we're talking about oil but that might not always be the case. Our democracy has worked for 250 years because no one is above the law. If you want that history to continue, we have an obligation to defend our democracy No company is above the law.

So I humbly ask you as a 16 year old student halfway through English class, please take this chance to fight for democracy. We are counting on you to choose your conscience. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Madej.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.7551:32

We will now go to Zoom with Chloe Paravicini to be followed by Matthew Kohler. Chloe?

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PresenterChloe ParaviciniOceana's more than 137Proposedself-stated51:43

Hi, everyone. Good morning and thank you so much for the opportunity to testify. My name is Chloe Paravicini and I am the Los Angeles field representative for Oceana and a very concerned California resident on behalf of Oceana's more than 137,000 California members including those in Santa Barbara we asked the board to adopt a position opposing the dangerous stable provisions by Congressman Wesley Hunt of Texas and the House passed version of the fiscal year 2027 National Defense Authorization Act.

Under the false pretense of national security, these provisions would violate California's laws, values and sovereignty for the benefit of a private corporation. It would authorize the seizure of California's public and private property including our treasured Gaviota State Park so that Sable can continue to recklessly pump oil from our coast. There is no evidence that the oil from the Santa Ynez unit will lead to an increase in fuel for the military Nor is it clear for national security, nor is it critical for national security. Instead, it's an escalation in a series of attacks on California's coast that sets a very dangerous precedent of federal overreach. The 2015 refugio spill is a painful reminder of what's at stake when oil flows through these pipes.

For the sake of our oceans, our economy and California's autonomy please urge Congress to remove the hunt language from the final version of

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.7553:02

this bill. Thank you so much. We will now go to Matthew Kohler to be followed by Ken Huff. Matthew?

PresenterMatthew Kohlerour members who work to protect and enjoyProposedself-stated53:16

Good morning commissioners and commission staff, and thank you for the opportunity to speak today. My name is Matthew Kohler and I'm the California Offshore Drilling Campaign Manager at the Surfrider Foundation. I'm here to speak on behalf of our members who work to protect and enjoy California's oceans waves and beaches every day. I'm speaking today in support of the draft letter opposing the Hunt Amendment included in H.R. 8800, the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2027. This amendment would assist a private company, Sable Offshore Corp., and would set a dangerous precedent that would undermine state and local authority for three reasons. First, there is no evidence indicating that the Santa Ynez pipeline system is necessary for national security.

It is a privately operated pipeline that transports crude oil to market and would primarily benefit Sable Offshore not the security of the American people. Second even if the pipeline did contribute to national security an oil spill which has happened in the past would threaten military and national security operations in the region Third, the amendment would see state land held in public trust for the benefit of the people of California and would overrule state laws governing that land. This would leave California with few ways to protect its public lands and could open the door to similar federal actions in other states. For these reasons we urge the commission to please approve the draft letter and defend California's authority to manage and protect the lands that's under its control.

Thank you for the opportunity to speak today

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.7554:48

We will now go to Ken Huff, to be followed by Dr. Lee Heller. Ken?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed54:57

Good morning Chair Nelson and Supervisors. Ken Huff speaking for the Santa Barbara County Action Network Decisions about the operation of this pipeline have significant implications for public lands, environmental protection, coastal resources and the ability of state and local institutions to carry out their responsibilities. These decisions also have implications on the economy including but not limited to cleanup costs, commercial fishing losses impacts to local businesses loss of both public and private recreational opportunities and funding to restore wildlife habitats.

SPCAN believes decisions with such significant local consequences should not bypass the environmental safeguards, public processes and state and local oversight that exist to protect these resources and the people who live here. SPCAN is concerned about what precedent this would set if federal eminent domain can be used to circumvent local protections. We appreciate the county's stewardship over a clean energy transition We believe the hunt amendment is inconsistent with that transition and threatens local oversight. We support the staff recommendation, thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed56:20

Good morning, Chair Nelson and members of the board. I will be brief out of respect for your busy day and because so many of the speakers who have come before me have spoken so persuasively and nobody likes to follow salute. The points made are essential to our understanding of the importance of local control. To be honest with you This move strikes me as being a violation of the 10th Amendment. So when the 10th Amendment was created, the idea was that police power was irrigated to local communities because local communities understand what they need. So if the federal government has complete control over what happens everywhere regardless of their personal presence and understanding of community needs Then communities lose the power to take care of themselves.

So this amendment is a shot across the bow of that right for local communities to make our own decisions. I hope you will support the proposal to oppose the amendment. Thank you.

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ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.7557:12

We will now go to Izzy Systek, to be followed by Emily Engel who's our final speaker on this item. Izzy? And Izzy, I see you have unmuted yourself but we cannot hear you. Perhaps there is an issue with your microphone? All righty, we will now go to Emily Engel and then we will return to Izzy momentarily. Emily? Good morning. Can you hear me? Yes, we can please proceed.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed57:56

Thank you, thank you for allowing me to speak today. And thank you for the comments I've heard so far this morning. I'm the chair of the Santa Barbara Sierra Club Group representing over 8,000 local members and supporters. And we are speaking today to encourage the board to support the draft letter which adopts an opposed position on the federal hunt amendment as you've heard from my colleagues in front of me.

Comprehensively by Congressman Carvajal, the consequences of this action are far reaching and deserve a comment from our board, county and community members. I appreciate all that you do for our community and I urge you to adopt item eight as proposed. Thank you for everything, that's all.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.7558:46

And we will now return to Izzy Sistek who will be our final speaker, Izzy?

CommentIzzy SisteckProposedself-stated58:55

Good morning, Supervisors. Can you hear me now? Yes we can please proceed. Okay great thank you my name is Izzy Sisteck and I'm a resident of Santa Barbara County. I would also like to echo the speakers that came before me and encourage you to vote in favor of the Joff letter opposing the federal hunt amendment This amendment sets a terrifying legislative precedent for the entire state of California. By granting the federal government the power of eminent domain to seize state public lands, it completely strips our county of zoning, permitting and safety authority. Taking the power out of the hands of local residents and handing it to Washington undermines the core principles of federalism.

It sends a dangerous message to corporations that rather than complying with local safety laws they can simply lobby Congress for a permanent exemption. This is not how a fair system of government is supposed to work. Furthermore, it's fundamentally unfair to the responsible law-abiding energy operators in Santa Barbara County who respect our regulatory processes and understand their obligations to our community. Rewarding this single company's noncompliance with the federal shield destroys the integrity of our local regulatory framework.

Regardless of your stance on energy production, protecting local sovereignty benefits every resident of this county Please stand up for our community's right to self-governance and vote to support this draft letter. Thank you.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:00:20

And

CommentIzzy SisteckProposedself-stated1:00:20

that concludes

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:00:20

public comment on Administrative Item Number 8.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:00:24

All right, back to the Board. Any questions or comments from the Board? Supervisor Kaps.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.941:00:29

I just had a statement I wanted to make. Yeah,

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:00:31

sure

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.941:00:31

absolutely. Okay thank you. I just wanted to thank our CEO for bringing this forward and to the public and especially our congressman for being here and speaking in support of the CEO's recommendation and for his diligent advocacy for us in Washington. I really appreciate the comments and has been stated so eloquently by the public. The impacts of this are very far-reaching and really when you look at it it's not about whether or not you're for against oil It's really about what we do up here. It's whether about local communities retain the authority to ensure that pipelines operating in their backyards meet the safety and environmental standards required by law, and that oversight is especially important as the congressman spoke about just six months after the Trump administration ordered the restart of this pipeline testing is already indicating that multiple sections may have sustained damage That's especially alarming to me given that approximately 50,000 barrels of oil continue to flow through that pipeline each day.

That's especially concerning because operations apparently will not be halted while Sable excavates portions of the pipeline despite the potential for additional impacts to surrounding habitat that we represent and the risks associated with constructions. So I support this recommendation wholeheartedly. I oppose the Hunt Amendment. Weakening local oversight under these circumstances undermines accountability, erodes public trust and takes decisions away from the communities most directly affected.

That's my community, that's our community and that's our county. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:02:18

All right thank you Supervisor Caput. Supervisor Lavanino?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.931:02:20

Thank you, Mister chair normally if people pay attention to when we talk about federal legislation. I normally abstain from a lot of these because they feel like this is what salute was elected to do but in this case this totally affects Santa Barbara County so appreciate staff bringing this one forward. You know, I'm not voting today on the surface issue regarding whether or not the pipeline should be come under to oppose the amendment for the underlying issue and that is I believe in local control over local land use. And you know, I warn folks that administrations change legislative majority switch and when you come in with a heavy hand at the federal level on to the local level You know who's to say what's going to happen in November is going to say what happened 2 years from now and then the next administration, you know wants to do something similar in the opposite direction so.

In that as a tip of the hat to local control over local land use I will be opposing this amendment supporting staff recommendation.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:03:32

All right, thank you for 11, you know. I usually would object to this type of amendment like Supervisor Lavinio has been, for the same reason Supervisor Lavinio stated under normal circumstances. But actually, I believe that we're not under normal circumstances here today. I believe that in part because I believe the state, the Coastal Commission Some of our environmental nonprofits in the county is not necessarily operating in good faith with the operation of Lost Floors Pipeline and their unit. I think that many people out there do want to see them go away and are using litigation warfare to try to stop their operations, and they're able to do that because that's one of the tools in the toolbox.

But when you start to go into it and pull those tools out The other side pulls out other tools that they might have at their disposal. In that case, that is a lawful congressional amendment. The reason why there's opposition out here for this is because that would be law and that would allow this to move forward. And I think if all along after the initial oil pipeline spill, if everybody were to work together to install a newer pipeline, a safer pipeline, we wouldn't be where we are here today And so again, like I said under normal circumstances, I'd be all about local control. But I don't believe we're in our local control here. That's the issue here. So I will actually oppose the letter from the county when that motion is made.

So with that Supervisor Kaps.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.941:05:11

I just wanted to take a moment. I think it was Maureen Ellenberger who said she's proud of this board, and I just wanted to say how publicly maybe I'm getting nostalgic here with Supervisor Lavigny knows end-of-time you're coming pretty soon but I just really am proud of the distinctions you make so often here at just last week you gave such a forceful I just want to acknowledge that because I admire your intellect and the ways in which you approach issues. I've learned a lot from them, and I continue to do so on even on issues like this that I feel so strongly about. So thank you.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.931:05:56

Don't get me all teary eyed. Let's move on. All right, let's get let's get emotion here. Come

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.941:06:00

on.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.931:06:01

I'll make the motion to accept staff recommendation.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.941:06:04

And I will second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:06:05

All right, Madam Clerk, will you please call the roll?

Roll-call vote Passed 3–1 motion to accept staff recommendation. And I will second. All right, Madam Clerk, will you please call the roll? · 1 under review
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ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:06:23

recused.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:06:24

All right. Next item actually Supervisor Lavinino not yet. I think the next item that we have where Supervisor Hartman was recusing herself is on A-17. Let's go ahead and read that one into the record. I think this, we just need a roll call vote here or motion.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:06:47

Chair Nelson and members of the board, Administrative Item Number 17 is from the Planning and Development Department. It is to consider recommendations regarding the commencement of the 2026 through 2027 Coastal Resources Mitigation Fund grant cycle. And there is a four-fifths vote required on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:07:03

All right, I think it's the only reason why this was pulled for a separate vote without Supervisor Hartman participating so I'll just take a motion on this unless anybody has any comments to be made?

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.941:07:12

So moved.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:07:13

Second. Okay, so there's a motion and a second all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Motion passes unanimously with a one abstention or one recusal. All right at this time I think we'll bring back in Supervisor Hartman and I think we have I believe it's one more administrative item is that correct? Item 823

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:07:40

Chair Nelson and members of the board, administrative item number 23 is from the Public Works Department Board of Directors and Water Agency. It is to consider recommendations regarding the Los Olivos Community Services District request for a no interest loan from Santa Barbara County Water Agency. This is in the third district and there was a four fist vote required on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:08:01

All right, so I pulled this item because I had a conversation with the Los Alamos Community Service District. So I just wanted to maybe just kind of memorialize the conversation I had with them as well as allow it sounds like we're going to have some robust public comment here as well. So before we go to public comment one of my concern maybe this is for Miss Kennedy, who's I guess the Los Olivos Community Service District. The question was my understanding is what we're doing here today is it alone so that the CSD could get to 90% design on the project and my Thoughts were there were two that we talked about in the conversation that I had with Miss Kennedy and Mr. Fairam.

One was that they acknowledged that this November election is kind of a little bit of a referendum on this, this part of the project And so one of the things I asked about was maybe waiting for these funds to be expended until after the election. So that, you know again local control with the voters speaking there and if they want to move forward with this design that would be a decision that they had after this upcoming election where it seems to be a hot button issue. And then the other piece that I was Suggesting was potentially just only going to 60% design prior to the 218 vote. You know, I think that there's a lot here it's a very expensive project.

I have some deep concerns about delivering services to their sewage to solving. I know what it's like to be under the control of another city in an unincorporated area and so I think that is potentially concerning And so I want to want to know more about that as the process moves forward. So those are questions I had whether those things could take place. I don't know if Supervisor Hartman, if you wanted me to chime in on those ideas or concepts or what those would be things that you might support?

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:09:53

I'm very supportive of the 90%. I think waiting until after the election would be acceptable. I have confidence that the existing board members will be elected. I have attended many meetings, this has been going on since my predecessor Supervisor Farr began this process I have actively defended the right of the local community through its elected CSD to make this decision. They have worked tremendously intensely and mastered a lot of very complex detail that sometimes gets misunderstood or misinterpreted as people try to understand very complex regulations.

So I am very supportive of the community self-determination and they have been, this is the elected body and they've made this decision. And I feel strongly about the 90%. All

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:10:51

right thank you Supervisor Hartman. All right I think we have some public comment here.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:10:57

Yes Chair Nelson and members of the board. We have four requests to speak from the public on this item. You're going to remain here in Santa Barbara and begin with Keith Sarlouse to be followed by Julie Kennedy.

CommentKeith SarlosProposedself-stated1:11:12

Good morning board. My name is Keith Sarlos, I'm a farmer business owner property owner and resident of Los Olivos. I've spoken at many Los Olivos CSD meetings asking for the same thing for this process to slow down identify the actual problem exhaust the meaningful alternatives and then and only then choose the solution those requests have largely fallen upon deaf ears So today I'm asking you on item A23, it would provide another $750,000 to take collection and conveyance to Solvang to 90% design.

Three quarters of a million dollars, roughly $2,000 per parcel, a design of a pipe to a wastewater plant with documented compliance problems of its own. State Water Board records show repeated recent exceedances for the nitrogen along with chlorine, sodium and total dissolved solids. I'm not attacking solving. I am asking why Los Olivos should engineer itself into dependence on that system before the terms cost and compliance issues are resolved. Because there is another enormous issue, leverage. Today Los Olivos can still say no. We already have an advanced on-site treatment systems operating in our town. Systems this county has approved.

They are here and they are working. We can use shared systems, clustered systems, decentralized treatment and smaller collection systems around problem areas. We can solve these wastewater problems locally without making Solvang our only option. Once we take Solvang to 90% design, our ability to walk away and negotiate changes dramatically. There's also a land-use question. This project would run major wastewater infrastructure through the agricultural corridor separating Los Olivos and Solvang. Infrastructure changes what becomes possible around it for generations, and there is a governance issue. Three of the five current Los Olivos CSD directors have terms ending this year. The community is approaching a board election while this project is being pushed towards a 90% design.

Before the election we should not lock the community into a further one solution without first seeing the alternatives, the cost, the terms with solving. And we still have one current monitoring result above the drinking water standard. We have one monitoring well. One that no one drinks out of that is above. There are tons of wells all around Santa Barbara County that are well above 10 and this solution isn't being pumped down their throat So this does not automatically provide a town-wide systemic failure. My request is simple, if you approve the $750,000 make it contingent upon Los Olivos CSD and community staff first exhausting and publicly presenting the meaningful alternatives. Require Solvang's terms, require the long term costs, require the land use consequences.

If Solvag is the answer then show us unequivocally. But please do not spend $750,000 engineering an answer before we have finished asking the question. Please hear us while we still have a choice. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:14:20

Thank you Mr. Charluz.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:14:22

We will now go to Julie Kennedy to be followed by Michelle Deward.

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PresenterJulie KennedyLos Olivos Community Services DistrictProposedself-stated1:14:28

Thank you Supervisors. My name is Julie Kennedy, I'm the President of the Los Olivos Community Services District. Our district was formed in 2018 to find a solution to the 50 year plus wastewater situation. Since our formation the district has held over 110 community meetings workshops and other events to explore the possible options and most importantly engage the property owners To ensure the board is addressing their needs and their concerns.

All of this has led the board to unanimously approve a gravity system for treatment and disposal in partnership with the City of Solvang, and a 4-1 vote for gravity collection within the district itself. All of this was based on the three key concerns that the community has expressed over and over again of cost growth and local control. Our next step is to put this to the property owner's vote via the 218 process. In order to do that, we need the 90% design in order to provide accurate costs for property owners so they can make an informed decision.

Personally I believe in the power of our community and the benefit when we all work together to solve a problem that affects everyone. I also want to add it's not lost on me as both a board member and a property owner what we are asking the community to do here, with respect to this loan. Your vote will make it possible for us to complete the work and get to the Prop 218 vote with a solution that the majority of the community has consistently voiced their support for.

I also want to thank a number of people. This didn't happen in a vacuum. There were a lot of people over the years who have helped, especially Supervisor Hartman and others from the CEO office, EHS Public Works Department, Lars Seifert and Jason Johnson along with Chris Sneddon, Matt Giffen Matt Young and Wade Horton. Again, I urge you to vote yes on this so that we can go ahead and get the work done and give the community the opportunity to weigh in. Thank you. Could

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:16:35

I ask a question?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:16:35

Yeah absolutely, Supervisor Hermann.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:16:38

What is your thought about the delay till after the election? Is that really... Is

PresenterJulie KennedyLos Olivos Community Services DistrictProposedself-stated1:16:45

that cumbersome for you? So we know that there is a cost for every month we delay getting to a solution. I would also add in terms of the November election, we have a number of property owners who would be voting in the 218 process that are not residents so they are not actually voting in this election. It's the 93441 zip code at large that gets to vote for a board The majority or many of those folks are not in the district itself. So waiting, again there's a cost I mean as you know projects continue the cost continues to increase, increase, increase so if we wait till after November that would likely put us out considerably in terms of the Prop 218 vote.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:17:35

Thank you.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:17:37

We will now go to Michelle Deward to be followed by Catherine Rohrer, who is our final speaker. Michelle?

CommentMichelle DewardProposed1:17:47

Good morning. Chair Nelson and members of the board, Los Olivos groundwater is not a public health risk. Our drinking water is completely safe. Los Olivos did not qualify for a state water grant, a planning grant early this year. There was no recycling component, there was not a public health risk and Los Olivos is not considered an economically disadvantaged community.

I'm speaking regarding the proposed $750,000 no interest loan for the 90% design. Staff has determined this action is exempt from CEQA. I asked the board to reconsider that finding before approving this item. And I appreciate the inquiry about delaying the vote. It's just to correct President Kennedy, as I understand it, the voters in this November are the renters in the community who live on the properties and Los Olivos can vote but the property owners do not vote for board members. But they do, the property owners do vote for the Prop 218 process Staff has, okay. Section 15262 does not fit the facts for exemption. It's meant for early feasibility planning studies before the project scope is designed but this loan doesn't fund a feasibility study it funds the design of an already selected project excluding the alternatives this community has spent years asking for To be fully evaluated include a decentralized local solution identified by preservation of Los Olivos with a $75,000 grant that does have a regeneration component.

Furthermore, LOCSD passed a resolution 2604. The selected option is a project that consists of gravity fed laterals mains and associated equipment that connects the district collection system to the city of Solvang. And that was what was selected. The project's physical scope reinforces why an EIR is required, the Alamo-Pentado Corridor connecting Los Olivos to Solvang Treatment Plant up to seven miles is not simply a trench and pipe project. The route crosses Alamo-Pentado Creek at multiple points across riparian corridor that already has known nitrate loading concerns.

So this morning I asked the board to delay the vote and why are we committing public funds before completing the nitrate source tracing study, the county itself had recommended to LOCSD in 2019. And clarify whether a CEQA document an EIR or negative declaration has been prepared and why is 90% design funding proceeding ahead of it? Thank

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:20:49

you

CommentMichelle DewardProposed1:20:49

very much for your time. We will now go

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:20:52

to our final speaker, Catherine Rarer.

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CommentCatherine RohrerProposed1:21:02

Good morning, Chair Nelson and members of the board. Catherine Roar Los Alivos I submitted a letter. I hope you had an opportunity to review the ask here is not a big one. A couple of tweaks to the loan agreement will make an enormous difference to the Santa Ana's Valley. Approving a $750,000 loan for 90% engineering design for a sewage pipeline to Solvang is a premature legally reckless misuse of public funds.

Los Olivos groundwater concerns are highly localized restricted to just two shallow downtown wells. Fast tracking a massive massive sewage pipeline through agricultural land The proposal carries real risks. Legal violation and predetermination. And respectfully, Supervisor Hartman's recent series of articles in News Hawk advocating for this pipeline combined with funding a 90% design today constitutes a pretty clear public predetermination.

Ideally to protect the legal integrity of the CEQA process, the supervisor would recuse herself from this vote. This overwhelming bureaucratic momentum before any environmental review violates the Save Tara Doctrine and constitutes illegal piecemealing. Historic and economic destruction. This pipeline threatens fragile National Register listed structures, like my own Adobe home with construction vibrations etc. Furthermore connection costs and maintenance fees will bankrupt our 90 year old Grange Hall and local small businesses and an unknown number of longtime residents As has been noted, once this is handed to Solvang with its own failing sewage treatment plant they have all the negotiating power. We have none.

I respectfully and sincerely request that if you proceed today you amend the loan agreement with these truly no harm, no foul revisions. One change the scope from a 90% design for Solvang two A comprehensive wastewater feasibility study evaluating both decentralized and regional options. We have local community members willing to help fund those. Number two, narrow the CEQA determination strictly to section 15262 for feasibility and planning ensuring that this funding does not commit to a definitive construction path.

Please protect our history, our small businesses and our rural character.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:24:08

Thank you Ms. Rory.

CommentCatherine RohrerProposed1:24:09

And ensure local

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:24:09

control thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:24:10

Thank you that's your time.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:24:12

And that concludes public comment on administrative item number 23. All

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:24:15

right back to the board for some clarifying questions or further statements Supervisor Hartman do I have to ask a CEQA question because we're not we're not the project lead on this right? We're just providing a loan there's no CEQAs yeah it's not our decision we're not the lead agency is that correct?

CommentMaureen EllenbergerProposed · by introduction1:24:34

Mr. Chair, yes that's correct.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:24:35

Okay so I mean that would be ripe for the community service district that somebody might have that complaint not for us by just loaning them money. Did I understand that correctly?

CommentMaureen EllenbergerProposed · by introduction1:24:46

Mr. Chair, yes providing the loan to the district doesn't commit the district to the project or the county.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:24:52

Gotcha thank you. Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:24:55

Yeah let me start by saying again that this is an issue that has existed for over 50 years. This CSD was formed because the community wanted its own solution They created an elected body, a formal body that's now requesting that we move forward with this loan. I can tell you because of these hundred meetings plus, I've attended many of them and I can tell you And I've had many, many meetings in my office with board members including Tom Fairam who worked for many years in our own public works department in water issues. They have looked at every alternative. They have sliced and diced this. I see Director Seifert nodding his head. This has been examined Every which way, who would think there were that many ways you could look at this? But they have looked at it from every angle.

And I'm here to tell you that we do not want the county to have to take this over. This project is going up 1.5 million every year of delay. The Water Board is sitting there, I talk to them at least every other day about these issues. Now it's complicated. There are drinking water standards those protect health for human beings. There are also water quality standards that are more stringent that affect the environment and the regional board is responsible for both And they are saying it is time to act. And if we don't, if this all falls apart ultimately my fear is that the county is going to be stuck with this and the residents of Los Olivos most of whom in my estimation support this project wanted to move on I'm going to have to bear the cost.

And what can happen is that the water board would hold every septic system owner responsible for the discharges for their system. They couldn't discharge and they would have to pay fines. That happened in Los Osos. We don't want that to happen here. And so I'm really pleading with you to allow the elected body that speaks for the community, that has had all these meetings to go forward with what they're asking.

These issues, what I can tell you the regional board makes clear is that operating a wastewater treatment system is very complex. And you get these package plants and they operate for 10 years, you spend a lot of money but they eventually need a lot of maintenance and upkeep. It's much more reliable to have a system that is centralized and that you've got full-time staff Los Olivos cannot afford full-time staff to operate a treatment plant. They simply, they're a community of fewer than 400 parcels, 370 some.

So I think for us to try to interfere with their elected bodies ask and decision is tremendously inappropriate And I would plead with you to allow the CSD's request and our grant, our loaning this money to go forward because this really has dragged on much too long. And the issues that are being raised have been raised again and again and again asked and answered, asked and answered. And people don't want to hear the answer.

So that's where I am.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:29:01

All right, well again I do support local control on this and that's why I brought up and thought there's a coming election in six weeks from now. And that's what I told some of the opposition that's actually reached out to me as well as talking even when it's what i've brought up with Ms. Kennedy and Mr. Faram. It seems like it's close to election they're the ones actually brought that up and said that this election really is a referendum on this proposal as a step one and then the 218 vote is that second referendum for the community and so that's why It seemed like it made sense that we're so close, that this is really close to that election day.

I'm happy with giving them the money. I mean if ultimately their rate payers are going to have to pay this back to us and so they're gonna have to be responsible for that. That's fine. I am not trying to save them money. I was trying to save time in process because there is a vote coming up here in six weeks that may send a message to the current board or may not. May say hey we're totally on board of what we're doing here you're gonna have our full support So I just was remarking that period of time, that seems to be coinciding together. Might be sometime it might be an opportunity to step back.

This is a big number and a big project and there are a lot of consequences. And you're right has been around for 50 years. My recommendation to the board members at CSD is that we've got to find some way to get everybody on board here. I mean, I know that's a challenge. I know you're working on it too. I've seen these community issues. We've all seen these community issues, but when you start to get divided like this that's where I'm afraid for you guys that we will own it at the county because it's going to get so divided at some point. If we can't get everybody on the same page then it's gonna be a county problem that we're gonna have to find some solutions for. I'd rather not do that either. I want the Los Olivos Community Service District to handle this problem.

I was suggesting that maybe we just take a small break for them to allow them to have that kind of conversation through an election. But I'm going to support moving forward with this. I was adding that on the record where I was trying to help the process along, to bring people together on this not Not to pick a side. That was that I was after.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.871:31:01

Supervisor Hartman. And and I appreciate that the regional board, our county environmental health, the CSD is working on a frequently asked questions that really shows the work of the last 10 years or also I haven't really talked to the CSD about this but the regional board and I hope the County Environmental Health are willing to participate in some regional forum that we develop So that we can clarify some of the confusion that's been generated around some of these very important questions. But with that I would like to make the motion that we go forward with authorizing the loan.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:31:44

Good and I'll second. Okay, it's a motion in a second. Any further discussion on that? Supervisor Lavanito?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.931:31:49

Yeah, I thought the last election was the last referendum on this. This has been going on so long it was interesting to hear about fast tracking and pushing things through and I think this has been going on since I've been here almost. So yeah we you know we elect local leaders to make local decisions and so I support this and not everybody's gonna get on board. I understand that And when you know, it's nice when you have an issue where you can bring everybody together. It's just generally not around wastewater So good luck.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:32:23

All

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.931:32:23

right,

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:32:24

so there was a motion in the second any further comment?

CommentMaureen EllenbergerProposed · by introduction1:32:26

No, Mr. Chair. Yes, sir Just it sounds like the motion is staff recommendation a BNC

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:32:31

clarify that yes Okay, that's the seconder. Yep. Absolutely Alright, so all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye Opposed motion passes unanimously All right good luck everybody. All right so that concludes our administrative agenda at this time we'll go ahead and move into our general public comment.

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ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:32:57

Chair Nelson and members of the board, we have 10 requests to speak from the public in general public comment today.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:33:03

All right so we're going to cut that down to two minutes. We actually have some time sensitive things with a closed session before we lose one of our members here today. So we're gonna have general public comment be two minutes per speaker.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:33:15

And we will begin on Zoom with Thomas Becker and then we will return here in Santa Barbara with Fred Razo.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:33:26

Yeah, hi. Thank you just some general observations about government state and local governments lose their rights to control local issues if they engage in corruption or violate the constitutional rights of its citizens. Perhaps the most famous example of that is when Eisenhower sent federal troops into Little Rock to take control of state and local schools. That's where a federal government comes in and completely takes control over something that normally, a local government has power over.

Consent decrees do the same thing. A federal court can actually limit the power of state and local governments through a consent decree The feds can step in and take control of state and local decisions if local governments are committing abuses of process to deprive the 5th and 14th Amendment rights of citizens and businesses or are interfering with the federal supremacy over interstate commerce.

And finally, if a federal court rules that a government violated the due process rights of a citizen through abuse of process, that ruling could then allow the federal government to step in and exercise control over local and state decisions just like Eisenhower did in Little Rock in 1956. Thank you.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:35:01

We will now return here in Santa Barbara with Fred Razo to be followed by Chris Burke.

PresenterFred RozzoresidenProposedself-stated1:35:17

Two minutes, correct? Two minutes. Good morning Chairman Nelson and members of the board. My name is Fred Rozzo and this is my third presentation in public comment before the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors on this issue. I'm here again on behalf of the residents, beekeepers, growers, pollinator advocates, and many others throughout Santa Barbara-San Ynez Valley Who are, who care deeply about the future of bees and pollinators in our community. Mr.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:35:49

Rosso can I just interrupt you for a minute? You know we have an item today on this.

PresenterFred RozzoresidenProposedself-stated1:35:53

Yeah i wasn't going to be present.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:35:54

Okay then go ahead and finish up right now but if you're if you want to speak on that I was gonna

PresenterFred RozzoresidenProposedself-stated1:35:59

stop you and have you speak later yeah

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:36:00

okay because

PresenterFred RozzoresidenProposedself-stated1:36:01

you want to make that point of clarification that yeah I'm working and I'm not gonna be able here at 2 30 time but thank you very much yeah thank you very good. I was concerned about that when I started. First, I simply want to say thank you. Thank you to Supervisor Hartman, her staff, county personnel and this board for listening to the concerns that have been raised and for taking this issue seriously. After my previous comments, I had the opportunity to speak with Gina Fisher from Supervisor Hartman's office. I came away encouraged at the county intend to involve knowledgeable local people as the ordinance is reviewed.

So on behalf of all those who love and support bees and pollinators in our beautiful valley, thank you for hearing us. Thank you for being willing to revisit this ordinance. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to help develop a solution that is reasonable, balanced, scientifically informed and worthy of the agricultural community it intended to serve. And a very special thank you to Supervisor Joan Hartman Her office and staff, and the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors for your hard work, your leadership, and your willingness to listen carefully to the people and communities you serve.

We sincerely appreciate your effort and look forward to continuing working with you. Thank you again.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:37:12

Thank You Mr. Razo.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:37:13

We will now go to Chris Burke to be followed by Eliza Wheeler. Chris?

CommentChris BurkeProposedself-stated1:37:20

Members of the board, my name is Chris Burke and I'm speaking to you today as a father who has been left out with no other choice to demand accountability in a public forum. For 10 years, my family has lived under the constant threat and in terror for the last three years, I have systematically filed over 250 detailed police reports documenting ongoing violent stalking and harassment.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the board. Good morning, everyone. At the scene, the message is sent to the perpetrators is that they can operate with total immunity because those emergency reports have ignored threats. Because the emergency reports were ignored, threats became reality left entirely unprotected I have been forced into the emergency room five separate times and have several physical trauma caused by violent assaults. These individuals cause to break into our home, break into my vehicle and stalk my family even targeting us the grounds of my son's elementary school at Valley Elementary. I asked this board directly why do public officials in this county enjoy the safety of their constitutional rights while my son and mine are completely stripped away.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness cannot exist when private citizens are systematically denied basic equal protection under the law. This is not just a failure of law enforcement this is a governing body overseeing county operations in public safety budgets. This is a failure of oversight. When violent crimes is ignored no neighborhood in Santa Barbara County is safe I am asking the board today for two concrete actions and I will be following up with them in the next couple weeks and 30 days.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:39:32

That is your time.

CommentChris BurkeProposedself-stated1:39:34

But excuse me

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:39:35

that is your time. Thank you.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:39:38

We will now go to Eliza Wheeler to be followed by Naomi Rowan.

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CommentEliza WheelerProposedself-stated1:39:46

Chair Nelson, Board of Supervisors and members of the public. My name is Eliza Wheeler. I'm a sophomore at Westmont College studying psychology and political science. Through my time at Westmont, I've grown to see the extreme need and responsibility for taking care of the people of this area. Thank you for caring for the residents of Santa Barbara County. Through this desire to see Santa Barbara grow to be a safer and more unified community, I joined KCI's catalytic team in trafficking prevention methods. According to California's Department of Social Services, only one in ten youth experiencing sexual exploitation are identified while in the child welfare system. The majority of exploitation occurs outside the purview of our system. These are individuals that are my age, many even younger.

For Santa Barbara, that means we cannot assume the youth we know about represent the proper scope of the issue. It is our responsibility to take care of the more vulnerable and at-risk youth which is why I support Kingdom Causes Youth Resilience Initiative and helping end CSEC. Their goal is education, advocacy and collaboration. While these can seem simple our system is often not collaborative. Many agencies that are supposed to work together have little incentive or proper funding to do so. It is our responsibility as Santa Barbara residents to catch those at risk before they can take advantage of by supporting other organizations who care for youth facing housing instability abuse and many other risk factors.

Personally in my work with KCI I'm performing research on how tier 2 CSEC counties can properly address this problem. The fundamental issue is the lack of information available. It is nearly impossible to find current data on CSEC and government measures to help stop human trafficking, more so that data is what helps NGOs perform and handle crises that are not being handled by other organizations. Without that data they cannot run efficiently. I was only 10 when I first learned about human trafficking. Sadly the children experiencing trafficking and other significant traumas can be even younger. I've been giving a voice and I believe it is my responsibility to advocate on their behalf. I appreciate all your care for this topic. Please continue to follow and support our work by ensuring that we have current accessible data on CSEC and other governmental measures.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:41:40

Thank you.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:41:41

We will now go to Naomi Rowan, to be followed by Katherine Hannah. Naomi?

CommentNaomi RowanProposedself-stated1:41:51

Chair Nelson, members of the board, members of the public. My name is Naomi Rowan. I am a junior and attend Middle College Alternative High School. I'm here today with Kingdom Causes or KCI as their youth advocate and more importantly to share about the issue of human sex trafficking in Santa Barbara County and why this issue is so important to me. I am 15 years old and two years ago I learned that kids my age and younger than me were being coerced into performing sex acts for beds and other basic needs.

This is a huge problem in our city, Santa Barbara County, the state and the country. Hearing this I was so horrified I wanted to do something to help. Two summers ago I got involved with SAFE, the Strategic Alliance to Fight Exploitation through a summer internship program that helped me learn about the problem and what people are doing to help kids and adults who are being trafficked.

This led me and three other students at Santa Barbara High School, San Marcos and Dos Pueblos to make a club Students for Survivors with the goal of spreading awareness about the issue that is happening here in our neighborhoods. After being a mentor intern to 10 students this summer I decided to join KCI as their youth advocate. On September 10th Santa Barbara Independent published an article titled It's Our Kids Solving Santa Barbara Sex Trafficking Problems We have fewer resources compared to neighboring counties like Ventura, said Alia Azariah in the article.

Ventura County's model has comprehensive services all in one place making it easier to know what services each youth has used so really my question to everyone is why wait? Why wait until a child is prosecuted of a sex crime becomes a victim of rape or cited for delinquency at school when earlier intervention is possible? Lastly, if you haven't already I ask you all to read the independent article because it summarizes all the key issues going on locally and ways that other counties are addressing it. Thank You Chair Nelson members of the board and members of the public for your time and efforts for the betterment of Santa Barbara County

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:43:46

We will now go to Catherine Hanna to be followed by Larry Barrett. Catherine?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 11Proposed1:43:54

Good morning board, thank you for your time. You've already heard from two of my fellow colleagues so I'll be brief. I'm also with KCI part of our fellowship program dealing with the sexual exploitation of children in Santa Barbara. I've been up here last semester and just wanted to continue that Westmont's back in session, our cohort is back and we are continuing working towards these efforts Recently, there's been an independent article in Santa Barbara highlighting all of these issues and I also am here to urge you to read that. It kind of highlights both the efforts going on to address the problems and where there are still some gaps that need to be filled.

I want to say that our cohort is working on a few things this semester that we're excited to work alongside NOAA's Anchorage and provide support with some caseworkers there. We're also working on hosting some collaborative meetings with both the West and East side of Santa Barbara What needs are actually missing and how maybe we can help address some of those things within our county. We're excited and hopeful that people are starting to talk and take notice of this issue, and would love just continued support from you all. And thank you for listening to us, and we're excited to be back and continue to work on this effort together. Thank you.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:44:58

We will now move to Larry Barrett to be followed by Kate Griffith.

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PresenterLarry BarrettChristina Pizarro from the Santa Barbara Women's Political Committee and Anna ArProposedself-stated1:45:14

Chair Nelson, with your permission the three of us would like to comment together. We'll save you four minutes.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:45:20

Okay.

PresenterLarry BarrettChristina Pizarro from the Santa Barbara Women's Political Committee and Anna ArProposedself-stated1:45:21

Thank you very much. My name is Larry Barrett with Indivisible Santa Barbara I'm here with Christina Pizarro from the Santa Barbara Women's Political Committee and Anna Arcee from CAUSE and ESPY Resista and we're here to announce the launch of 805 EPIC. EPIC stands for the Election Protection and Integrity Coalition We are a nonpartisan coalition of more than two dozen nonprofit organizations, all concerned about the possible threats to our upcoming election.

We are here as a coalition to make certain that all eligible voters are able to vote, that the votes are counted, that the results are respected and folks who are elected get to take their positions.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 12Proposed1:46:13

Thank you. Hi, so just to add I just wanted to mention that as we approach the November election we invite the community organizations and residents to learn more and share resources and to help make us make sure voters throughout the 805 know where to turn for information and assistance. And our coalition is getting larger and larger each day, and it includes 5051 Ventura County, 805 UndocuFund, CAUSE, Commit to Democracy, Democratic Women of Santa Barbara County.

We have Indivisible Estero Bay, Indivisible Lompoc, Indivisible North Slope County, Indivicible Ojai Valley, Individual San Luis Obispo, Individual Santa Barbara, Individual Santa Maria, Santa Ynez Valley, Ventura, Movement Legal or Legal. National Lawyers Guild Central Coast, California Chapter, SB Resiste, The Pod, Unidos 805 and Santa Barbara Women's Political Committee. You can learn more at 805epic.org Thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 13Proposed1:47:26

Yes, and as we know this work is very important because each one of our organizations understands the importance of having strong courageous leaders who don't stay silent when peaceful volunteers are bear sprayed by ice at the Santa Barbara County Jail. We also understand that it's important to have processes and have nonpartisan information for the community so that they can make educated voting decisions At forums, we're going to have a Spanish speaking panel at Franklin Center. Voter trivia nights and also local rapid response teams and poll watchers teams to ensure that everybody is able to vote and is able to engage in a safe and secure manner in our tri-counties. So I invite every single one of you to come and join us in our efforts to any of the forums.

Feel free to go to EPIC, to our website and see the list of events that are coming up.

PresenterLarry BarrettChristina Pizarro from the Santa Barbara Women's Political Committee and Anna ArProposedself-stated1:48:33

Of course we're available to meet with each and every one of you with the elections department with anybody who wants to coordinate with us.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:48:43

Thank you Mr. Barrett. Thank you ladies.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:48:46

And we will now go to our final speaker Kate Griffith

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 14Proposed1:48:52

I drove an hour for three minutes and I only get two. Hello Board of Supervisors, I'd like to thank Supervisor Hartman for intervention in requesting Zoom meetings for the Vintners Board of Directors. She was also prescient in requesting more frequent reporting for the Vintners. I'm here to report facts the Vintoners will no doubt neglect mentioning to you. Exhibit for item one shows two draft orders from my September Wine Club run that illustrate that the Vinterner CEO continues to be erroneous in her assertions that they've provided wine bid assessment integration options for all Santa Barbara County winery sales channels. The two draft orders for my wine club created the wine bid assessment on the total retail cost of the wine, not the discounted wine club member costs and this is just one of Flying Goat's multiple sales channels.

Exhibit for items 2 and 3 shows a copy of the Vintner's website posting for Lompoc which invites the world to quote come Friday through Sunday unquote. The Vintners page does a great disservice to Fly & Go, Transcendence and other Lompoc tasting rooms that are open other days of the week. Lompoc tasting rooms are already challenged for traffic in this current wine market.

The website writer wasted the introductory sentence telling the world what Lompoc is not rather than what it is. For example, it neglects to mention Lompoc's wineries contribution to the local sparkling wine industry. One winery owner noted quote when an uninformed piece given the thousands of dollars we contribute I would certainly expect Lompok to be represented with more thought and accuracy than that I've never been contacted by anyone at the Bintners or by a marketing firm on their behalf to learn what Transcendence is actually about. Perhaps if someone came to visit, they would see that our multi-million dollar custom facility where we produce wine for wineries throughout the valley is anything but garagiste.

Finally, X item exhibit for Item 4 shows the Vintner's Board of Directors September 15th agenda included closed session item conference with legal counsel anticipated litigation. Significant exposure to litigation two cases while we are not privy to the discussion, Vintner CEO recently admitted a membership that the board elections have been disputed. Thank you for your time.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:51:08

Thank you.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:51:10

And that concludes general public comment for today.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:51:12

All right, we're gonna go ahead and roll right into department item number one. Madam Clerk will you please read that item into the record?

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ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:51:26

Chair Nelson and members of the board, departmental item number one is sponsored by Supervisor Lavinino. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an ordinance in Chapter 23 of the County Code to regulate possession of catalytic converters.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.931:51:41

I'll kick this to Chief of Staff Corey Bantalon for presentation.

CommentCorey Bancelon ChiefProposedself-stated1:51:44

Good morning Chair Nelson, members of the board. I'm Corey Bancelon Chief of Staff in Supervisor Lavinino's office and I'll be presenting a brief item on the proposed catalytic converter ordinance. As you can see up on your screen this is a photo of a warehouse full of stolen catalytic converters. This is down in the LA area but what was most compelling to me as this photo was taken only a few weeks ago and so I think it shows that this continues to be a problem that affects us locally and throughout the country as well.

Just a little bit of background on catalytic converters themselves. In very layman's terms, basically what it tries to do is lower the emissions coming out of the engine's exhaust manifold before they hit the tailpipe. These are only in internal combustion vehicles so these are not in electric vehicles. In 1975 the EPA set stricter standards and so catalytic converters were introduced as a way to meet those standards How it works, I won't pretend to know exactly how it works but it uses metals to trigger chemical reactions. Some of those metals are rather valuable including platinum, palladium and rhodium and so naturally they are target for thieves.

It is quite a big inconvenience for folks that have had their catalytic converters stolen. I liken it to walking outside and seeing all four of your tires being slashed. You have an inoperable vehicle that needs to be towed to a repair shop and it's quite costly. So why are we here talking about it at the Board of Supervisors today? AB 641 established regulations for possession of nine or more catalytic converters and said if you have possession of nine or more, you need to be a licensed automobile dismantler. And if you are not there are penalties associated with that. But what it did not address was possession of eight or fewer catalytic converters. And so there's this gap in enforcement where right now, you know if a sheriff deputy were to pull somebody over see in plain sight they have a couple of catalytic converters in the back of their truck is very difficult to effectuate an arrest on that person.

They may have some burglary tools in their possession but it's very difficult under the current laws So this idea did not originate in our office, it actually came from public comment here at the Board of Supervisors. Last year a gentleman by the name of Daryl Terrell of Riverside County drove up he made the trip again today. He's in the audience and I will let him tell his story but he has been a one-person machine going across the state mostly Southern California getting these ordinances passed in cities and counties throughout Southern California And I imagine these numbers on the bottom bullet point will expand as Mr. Terrell expands his territory and goes a little bit further north. I will note there's one error on here, it's actually nine counties that have adopted similar ordinances so we would be county number 10.

This chart is from the Sheriff's Department. This shows motor vehicle accessory thefts in the unincorporated areas. One important thing to note, this is not just catalytic converters so they're all put into a bigger bucket. This could include you know folks stealing wheels and tires and those sort of things But it does include catalytic converters. You can see a spike during the COVID years and subsequently, it has dropped back down.

It's a little bit tough to tell exactly how many catalytic converter thefts there are. It is one of those crimes like many that is often underreported I'm not sure why this slide got cut off on the language, but you have the ordinance in your packet. In the box here are some of the more important sections. Section 2339B would make it unlawful for any person other than a core cycler to possess a catalytic converter not attached to a vehicle unless the person has valid proof of ownership. So you can prove this in several different ways, replacement converters are exempt as well and I'll just give one example of how this gives law enforcement discretion. You know it's somewhat obvious if somebody has a stolen converter or one that they procured lawfully and I'll go back a couple slides and you can see here that the proper way to attach a catalytic converter is to bolt it to the vehicle That takes time to bolt it and unbolt it.

And so what thieves do is they take a hacksaw, usually an electric one, and they cut the tubes pretty crudely. It takes seconds and then they take that off. So if an officer comes upon somebody with a full catalytic converter, it's probably going to be quite a bit less suspicious than one that's been cut. Section 2341A talks about the penalties, a fine not to exceed $1,000 and up to a year in county jail or both.

I did not come up with these myself. I worked with Ventura County who passed a similar ordinance last year. We used that as sort of the base and then worked with county council to modify it for our needs here at the county. Really the only substantive change that we made was the escalating penalties that you see here for second and third offenses. I mentioned some of the exemptions, but this is enforced by the Sheriff and District Attorney. And I'll note that this would only be for the unincorporated areas.

These are the recommended actions that are in your packet. I will leave them up on the screen. This concludes my presentation and I'd be happy to answer any questions.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:57:03

All right. Thank you Mr. Bantalon. Questions from the Board? Serge Lee.

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.861:57:07

Steve did someone steal your Cadillac converter?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.931:57:11

No this was a this is all motivated by public comment and Mister Terrell will kind of talk about his story and how it came up but it was kind of like to be keeping in came up a public comment we realize it took us over a year because we had to run through County Council we had to run into the sheriff's department the DA's office make sure that you know. That this was an idea that we wanted to pursue and, and that's where this came from. And do you

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.861:57:35

know the any popular models that make a model that is stolen more often? So

CommentCorey Bancelon ChiefProposedself-stated1:57:40

what I've heard- My car, my county car. Yeah it is Toyota Priuses actually are apparently the number one vehicle that catalytic converters are stolen from.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:57:52

All right. Any other questions or comments before we go to public comment? I'll comment though that I've had my catalytic converter stolen from my car In the city of Santa Maria. So this is only going to apply in the under corporate area, right? Correct. All right so hopefully our cities also pick up on this and implement it as well because it's definitely a concern in our community. So with that let's go ahead and move to public comment.

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.751:58:13

Chair Nelson and members of the board we have one request to speak on departmental item number one and we're going to remain here in Santa Barbara with Daryl Terrell

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role1:58:33

Good morning, honorable Supervisors, Supervisor Lee, Supervisor Capps, Chair Nielsen, Supervisor Hartman, Supervisor Lavigne and my good friend. I bugged you to death, but I'm sorry. Corey, thank you for... It's a pleasure to be here. I was here back in March of 2025 to ask you to join us at the time it was couple of counties to adopt the catalytic converter on lawful possession ordinance. Now since that time, I've been to Fresno they got adopted. I went to San Joaquin County went to Ventura County got that adopted.

Orange County got adopted. You see Kings, Kern, Imperial. I went all over the state and the reason why I went all over...I've been going to the state because like everything else State law has a gap and again when you look at the situation with officers people say well don't we have laws in the books? Yeah! We have Grand Theft Auto. We have what is it? stolen property, just put it that way. But the thing is you have to have a victim tied to that item and most of the catalytic converters don't have VIN numbers and things like that to go to a vehicle so when a deputy comes out and say someone has two or three catalytic converters and for instance they can't do anything about it I talked to a deputy he said you know what my hands are tied I said why your hands are tied?

Because it's under state law, there's no victim tied to it. So what this does is it closes the loophole in AB 641 which says I call it the one and you're done. Basically if you got one catalytic converter and you have no proof of ownership therefore you face some jail time under like state law but this is not about over policing, it's not about mass incarceration. It's about fair equal justice under the law That's what state law doesn't do for us right now. So my thing is to continue in my fight, to get every county I can.

I went to Sacramento County and they're working on it. L.A. County, the district attorney is proposing a catalytic converter on lawful possession orders. So we hopefully, the Board of Supervisors in L. A. County would do it and San Diego County. There's only like maybe two counties left in Southern California who doesn't have it now that I just mentioned. San Diego and L.a. County. So hopefully, we work together as a team because there has to be a regional strategy. And our regional strategy includes a catalytic converter on lawful possession orders at every I hope you give a thumbs up. Thank you.

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ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.752:01:36

And that concludes public comment. Thank you

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.932:01:38

Mr.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:01:38

Terrell.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.932:01:39

Back to Supervisor Lavinino. Well thank you, Mr. Chairman and thanks for allowing us to bring this. You know this is what this country's all about it's citizen action and I just appreciate the fact that You know, staff worked with this. Make sure our Sheriff's Department DA's office everybody was on board getting in through County Council making sure all the I's are dotted and T's crossed but a big shout out to you. I know this is this is a personal issue for you and This is all on his own time to an own dime. So thank you very much for being involved in it was honor for us toe bring this forward and I would respectfully ask for your support. Thank you. Supervisor Lavinio, Supervisor Caps

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.942:02:23

Yeah, I'm just happy to see this day because and that Supervisor Lavinino picked it up and turned it into a policy. And thank you Mr. Bantalon for the excellent presentation but you came here, you educated us, you went all over the state, you kept in touch every time you got a win somewhere. You let me know. I'm sure we let the others know too and I just was tracking your progress with tremendous respect Because it takes so much effort to do what you've done, but you've proven so many things to us that one person can make a big change. And that's what you're doing here and I'm happy to support it.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:02:59

Excellent thank you Supervisor Kapps. Supervisor Hartman?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:03:02

I remember the March meeting when we were all sitting up here about this gap that you pointed out to us, and I think I remember Supervisor Lavanino running out in the middle of the meeting trying to catch you. And so this is the result. I think you've done your due Mr. Terrell with the counties and I wonder How can we reach out most efficiently to the cities just with an announcement that, that we've done this in a regional approach would be better.

We can do it through each supervisor but I'm wondering if this is for our CEO Peterson you meet regularly I think with the city managers and whether you could make this available at that meeting?

GovJana PetersenCounty Executive OfficerProposedvoiceprint 0.912:03:49

Supervisor Hartman, certainly at the pleasure of this board. I'm happy to share information at that regional meeting.

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.862:03:57

Excellent thank you. Supervisor Lee? Good. I too will be supportive. Mr. Darrell thank you for doing this. You are a one-man army and it's nothing worse when you start in the morning with a cold start boom, boom, boom without Cali Converter so you know Bob.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:04:13

Yeah I do. Right, thank you Supervisor Lee. Yeah and I would also just mention that we didn't report that to law enforcement because frankly they probably had bigger things to be doing besides filling out a police report so I'm sure it's happening way more than is reported. So you know it can touch anybody including people up here on the dais so again I'm glad to add my support here and hope that some of the other jurisdictions in our community pick up on it as well.

So Supervisor Lavigny would like to make a motion? Sure with that I'll move staff recommendations

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:04:44

Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:04:45

So motion by Lavinino, a second from Hartman any further discussion on the motion? Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes unanimously congratulations. All right we'll be moving right along to department item number two D2

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ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.752:05:17

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And members of the board departmental item number 2 is from the planning and development Department it is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a firearm retail sales interim urgency ordinance extension and there's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed2:05:34

Good morning. Mister chair members of the so as indicated by miss Alexander, we're here to extend the moratorium on firearm retail Mr Wilson is here to make the presentation and turned over to him.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:05:53

Good morning. Chair members of the board And that was effective for 45 days, it will expire on October 16th. And so just as a brief recap, we were given direction to return today to provide the first extension for 10 months of 15 days and then to provide a brief report on measures taken in the next steps to satisfy the need for that interim or urgency ordinance.

The board agenda letter and this presentation satisfies that requirement as a report on the conditions and steps taken to alleviate those conditions. To provide an update to the board on steps that we have taken already in regards to the firearm retail ordinance amendment is that we've been evaluating ordinance amendments to define firearm retailers in the zoning code as a distinct land use. But most importantly, we've been updating our GIS database to map all of the existing firearm retailers and potential sensitive receptors And then also putting a 1,000 foot buffer on those receptors and firearm retailers to help us in implementing that buffer and evaluating the appropriateness of 1,000 feet. And what that will do as far as the ordinance amendment goes and for the consideration of the board later on.

Also looking at defining the parameters of sensor receptors in regards to firearm retail uses And evaluating, establishing those requirements for a conditional use permit for that distinct use of firearm retailers. And also analyzing those regulatory options for home-based firearm retail sales as well. Our next steps is to use that information that we're creating in the GIS database as in regards to locating those existing firearm retailers and sensor receptors, and how that 1,000 foot buffer will play into account in establishing appropriate buffer distances.

And we also want to research or continue researching, making sure that the distinct use is inclusive of all firearm retailers. That could include gun stores, sporting goods stores, home retail and pawn stores. So to make sure that definition is all inclusive and then establishing conditional use permit requirements as well as appropriate sensory receptors And then we'll be evaluating those ordinance amendments for their environmental analysis, and then we'll present that to the Planning Commission and then return to the board once that's recommendations from the Planning Commission is made.

On the screen is recommended actions just as a quick summary is to receive a father's report on measures taken adopt an ordinance to extend the interim urgency ordinance by 10 months and 15 days which will take us out to August 6th 2027 determine that this Urgency ordinance is not subject to CEQA and then direct staff to return 10 days prior to the expiration with either the adoption of this superseding ordinance, or to extend it again.

And we anticipate that will be able to have this ordinance completed within the first extension. So that concludes the report and we're available for questions.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:09:10

All right questions from the board any questions? And we just had this item. So Supervisor Lavenier?

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.932:09:16

Yeah, I just want to make sure so any existing operation right now is still grandfathered in so there won't be any enforcement or anything on anybody at this point until we talk about this and get further into August 27th.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 16Proposed2:09:30

Super Lavadino through the chair, that is correct. This urgency ordinance is only in effect for either new operations or relocations of existing firearm retailers so it doesn't apply to existing uses.

ElectedSteve LavagninoSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.932:09:41

Got it. So we have had yeah I've been outreached and I've tried to tell everybody we got plenty of time to talk about this and other board members as well.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:09:55

All right. Supervisor Caps?

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.752:09:58

I just have a comment, I'll wait.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:10:00

Okay do we have any public comment on this item?

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.752:10:02

Chair Nelson and members of the board we have no request to speak from the public on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:10:05

All right back to Supervisor Caps

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.942:10:08

I just want to thank the planning development team for moving so quickly on this. And speaking of partnering with our city partners, the City of Coleta in the interim they have moved quickly as well and passed And so we're really working in a regional fashion here. Thank you very much.

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:11:01

I just wanted to add my thanks to the Planning and Development Department. You know, we sit up here and we think oh you just have to make a few changes in an ordinance and why can't you do that overnight? And when you map out the steps and what it takes to actually develop an enforceable program it becomes clear how hard you're working so just appreciate that.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:11:25

All right thank you Supervisor Hartman. Any further discussion on this item? All right. Seeing none, we can go ahead and get a motion.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:11:36

I'll move staff recommendation. And I'll second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:11:40

All right. Any further discussion on the motion? Seeing none, actually let's do roll call vote please.

Roll-call vote Passed 4–1 motion? Seeing none, actually let's do roll call
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Supervisor Kaps? Aye. Supervisor Hartman? Aye. Supervisor Lavenino? Aye Supervisor Lee? Aye And Chair Nelson? No
ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.752:11:56

Motion passes 4 to 1

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:11:58

All right, we're gonna go ahead and the intention was to go to closed session at this time then come back in about an hour. Is it hours that what we're looking at on closed session?

CommentMaureen EllenbergerProposed · by introduction2:12:13

Mr. Chair, members of the board, that was the estimate. It could go more quickly.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:12:17

Okay, so it's 1115 right now. How about we say no earlier than noon that we'll be back here just for the public? All right.

CommentMaureen EllenbergerProposed · by introduction2:12:27

And I'll just announce so yes, please.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:12:29

Please read into what we're going to discuss in closed session

CommentMaureen EllenbergerProposed · by introduction2:12:31

We're returning to closed session for public employee appointment director of social services

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:12:36

all right excellent all right? We'll be back in a few All right, welcome back to the September 22nd 2026 meeting of the San Barbara County Board of Supervisors. We're returning from closed session. Madam County Council can you please report out on what we discussed?

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CommentMaureen EllenbergerProposed · by introduction2:13:30

Thank you Mr. Chair. The board met in closed session on public employee appointment director social services and the board took no reportable action.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:13:38

Excellent now back to our departmental items. We'll start off with the department item number three of six. Madam Clerk will you please read departmental item number three into the record

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.752:13:49

Chair Nelson and members of the board, departmental item number three is from the County Executive Office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding the rural county representatives of California RCRC strategic plan.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:14:02

Mr. Blacklock welcome.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:14:04

Thank you, Chair Nelson and thank you members for having me here today on behalf of the rural county representatives of California. I'm going to provide a hopefully relatively quick overview of what we're up to this year. I know you've got a lengthy agenda but that said, I hope that you'll stop me anywhere along the way where you have a question or maybe feedback to provide because really that is quite informing and helpful for us to be able to take back to the team in Sacramento so please don't hesitate to stop me anywhere along the way. That said, I'm going to cover a couple of topics today. One is our advocacy efforts in Sacramento and in Washington D.C., and then second is our more entrepreneurial efforts. And you can see at the bottom this slide a row of both public and private agencies that RCRC has formed over the years on behalf of our rural counties.

Our board did adopt a strategic plan in 2025 and I think the topics on here are ones that will look familiar to you whether it's broadband, housing, health access. Topics like that mandates under local control but what i would draw your attention to is the vision that the board set for us which is twofold one is to be the premier advocate both in Sacramento and in Washington DC but secondly to be an innovative service provider for rural counties and that's where that entrepreneurial side comes in When there's a challenge too big, particularly for our small counties, they'll come to us to see if they can get economies of scale through 40. And so that's what's led to the creation of some of those companies. But I want to start with advocacy because that's long been the cornerstone of who we are at RCRC Again, I think the topics on here will look familiar to you.

But I wanted to draw your attention to the box labeled key topics. One of the things that our board does is form ad hoc committees to zero in on topics that are of key interest to the Board of Directors and so we had three that were going or that there are going this year. One is recruitment and retention public employees Some of our member counties have, well in one case I know a county had a 100% vacancy rate amongst their behavioral health therapists. But when I was a county administrator it was common to have a 6%, 7%, 8% vacancy rate. Now 10%, 15%, 20% vacancy rates are common in some of our counties and so that committee is meeting to see if there are things we could do at a policy level to assist on that front. A second is the Predator Management Ad Hoc Committee and I have to thank Chair Nelson for chairing that particular ad hoc committee.

It was came about because of the growing wolf population in the North State and the challenges with managing that population, a challenge that even the state Department of Fish and Wildlife affirms that they are having a challenge with that as well but it includes all predators so bears mountain lions and really the committee sought to meet with Department of Fish and Wildlife and other agencies to understand where are the challenges Where are the limitations and what can we do on an advocacy front to help on that? And then ultimately forms new policy that becomes the backbone for our advocacy.

And then our last ad hoc committee was Sustainable Groundwater Management Act. We're coming up on the five-year initial reporting requirements for some of the smaller basins, and that's pretty challenging for them from a funding perspective. And so that committee is looking at is there fine tuning that can be done for SGMA as we go forward in the coming years.

A couple other topics that I think may be of interest. One is state mandates, something we talk about quite a lot but counties 20 years ago did a great job of filing test claims and then that sort of dropped off and for a mandate to be reimbursable to a county, any one of the 58 has to file a test claim within one year triggering that cost Assuming the Mandates Commission approves it, it becomes reimbursable for all 58. So step one of our mandates initiative was to restart that work and RCRC is actually funding filing test claims on behalf of member counties. And then second was to look at our counties getting all that they are due from mandate reimbursement and the short answer to that was they are not. So we put out an RFP to see if we can get assistance on that front particularly for our smaller counties maybe not so much for a county the size of Santa Barbara but for our smaller counties to see if we can help on that front.

One area where Santa Barbara is directly engaged is our jail medical services study, and I want to thank Tanya from your team. She's been a wealth of expertise for us in guiding that effort but we have 25 counties across five regions simultaneously studying what is the best option for providing jail medical services in the future? And that came out of recognition that costs were increasing substantially at the same time that expectations particularly around behavioral health were increasing substantially And at that time, it was just a short couple of years ago. There was really only one vendor covering about 30 plus counties and there was concern about reliance upon a single vendor and then shortly thereafter that vendor filed for bankruptcy Now we're little there are additional vendors out there that are bidding on proposals But their primary concern remains which is even in this more competitive environment costs are increasing double-digit percentage increases counties are seeing when they do RFPs on what can be their largest general fund, single general fund expenditure.

So this study will look at a very granular level. What are the options from providing it on a regional basis or administering in our regional basis to providing it within the county? To having it be a public agency model to continuing to contract and then doing a full financial analysis for all those options so that each of those five regions can assess those options and see which may work best for them.

Another topic that I know is near and dear to you here is indigent health planning with the changes that are coming from HR 1. All counties are going to see impacts obviously too with their 17,000 requirements in providing indigent health but Santa Barbara being an Article 13 county, you're kind of on the front lines in terms of trying to navigate through that as compared to say the CMSP counties Obviously, we were unsuccessful this year in getting some of the funding and changes that we sought to support implementation of re-implementation of the Indian Health Program. I think as we look to the 26th year there are a couple of topics that are going to be front and center for the incoming administration. One is engine health and the team is already working to plan for that.

And I want to extend appreciation to our colleagues at CSAC because they've really helped convene us and keep us working as one county family on that front. So we, that's one is engine health planning but a second is wildfire liability reform You may have followed in the waning days of the legislature there were competing proposals to address wildfire liability reform, one of which would have stripped local government counties from their ability to claim for losses from utilities. That was ultimately taken out but as the package, the wildfire liability reform package was narrowed down The utilities became unsupportive and ultimately nothing proceeded. However, I think it's going to be back and it's just a question of does it come back in January or potentially even sooner?

So I would definitely expect that one to be out there. And then the last one that I would be looking at as we look to the coming year is our official intelligence regulations. There's a lot of chatter behind the scenes in the Capitol. There's a real sense that we're gonna see that become a top priority in the incoming legislative session I think the challenge can sometimes be that with the best of intentions of policy implementation, there's not recognition of how it actually is occurring back particularly for local governments and counties. And we saw that with some of the legislation this year where you're getting software updates right now that are incorporating AI whether you choose to or not it's embedded in the software but this legislation would potentially have precluded that and that's not realistic when you're just receiving software updates so there's work to be done on that front as we go into the coming year I'm going to switch and run through some of our entrepreneurial efforts.

But if there's any questions on the advocacy side, happy to take those. Just a couple things I wanted to address on the entrepreneurial effort. One is we have a public agency, Golden State Finance Authority, a joint powers agency made up of all 40 counties including Santa Barbara that provides infrastructure financing. And it does it for one, if you're a homeowner wanting to buy You can get down payment assistance, but if you're a small CSA CSD something like that and you need assistance with implementing a grant. That is you don't have the cash to cash flow the grant which often requires you to expend the funds before you can be paid we provide that sort of financing and at least on the down payment assistance type Santa Barbara County employees can get zero cost down payment assistance what that means is if a Santa Barbara County employee is buying a home They can get down payment assistance up to 3%.

There's never any interest and there's never any payments. The principal amount just sits there as a second for which payments are never due until the house is sold, at which time only the principal is due to be paid because there was never any interest amortizing or at the end of 30 years The homeowner would need to refinance or something like that. I think you've had nine employees take advantage of that program, but that tells me a county this size there's probably more demand or potentially out there and so we're happy to partner with you. Typically they find out about it either through the county or the realtor. So if there's a Realtors Association we can meet with and help get that word out we're happy to do it These same sort of programs, a little bit of cost are available to the public as well.

So we provide down payment assistance for everyone but our board wanted to help with recruitment and retention and so invested GSFA funds in the County Employee Program Our newest public agency is Golden State Connect Authority. It's a joint powers agency, again with all 40 that was formed in 2021 out of recognition there was a lot of money flowing for broadband fiber deployment and particularly for our small counties they did not have the capacities to go after those dollars so with a budget of zero in December 21 Golden State Connect Authority was formed by December a year later We had pulled down $19 million to do fiber engineering, including here in Santa Barbara County. And by the end of 24 or 25, excuse me, we had pulled down $285 million for construction.

We are in construction today in Glenn County and we have as you can see on this slide six other jurisdictions that we're putting fiber in. This is viewed as the foundation. The goal is to then build out. We're seeking additional funding to use that engineering that's previously been done for 37 jurisdictions to do that. So hopefully this is only the start but exciting to be in construction.

Another one is Golden State Natural Resources. This was formed in 2019 to help the pace and scale of wildfire resilience treatment, and so essentially to partner with state and federal officials to get more work done in the forest. And there's two ways that we're doing that. One is that we're partnering with the Forest Service to get more projects approved in forests where we do the actual project management. We do the National Environmental Policy Act environmental clearances to get the work done. We have a good example where that was just done in the Modoc National Forest And then we are just about to release a draft EIR for a project that would help get the supply bottleneck unlocked to provide, to use what's currently unmerchantable low diameter biomass that comes out of those projects.

So it's been a big lift for us and that draft EIR will be coming out in this fall. And then just two more, I promise. One is Environmental Services Joint Powers Authority. Santa Barbara's not a member of this. This is our smaller counties getting together to navigate CalRecycle waste management regulations. And then the last one does have a Santa Barbara connection. Our Rural Advancement Institute is a 501c3 nonprofit focused on education primarily for urban legislators and their staff and we've done two tours with a third coming up here in November And then we do research, typically academic style research on topics of interest to rural communities. And our latest has been fire and EMS capacity in counties, particularly those counties that have a patchwork of small districts.

So looking at the challenge of increasing call volume, decreasing volunteers and not enough funding for paid staff. And actually the lead research entity for that is UC Santa Barbara and Dr. Murray with the Wildfire Resilience Center there has been the lead professor for it Did the initial study, which we commissioned but was actually peer-reviewed and published. And now he's in a second report for us that will look at...

That report ended with here's 12 recommendations or number close to that. This report will take those recommendations and build them out. And so we've been really grateful to UC Santa Barbara and Dr. Murray for that partnership. And that is a very quick fly through with RCRC. Happy to take any questions or hear any feedback you may have.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:25:46

Well, I'm going to jump in just because I am our representative and I want to thank my colleagues for continuing to send me back every year as a representative for our county with rural county representatives and their affiliate organizations. I've been honored by that organization on placing me in leadership As some of you may know, I'm the Vice Chair this year. First Vice Chair next year. I'll be the chairman of that esteemed organization and this week we're actually hosting their annual meeting here in Santa Barbara at the Santa Barbara Hilton. So it's exciting to have you here Patrick and you know, I think great presentation I think it just shows that, you know when one county can win we can all win. And I think that's what RCRC is all about is leveraging these resources that we have and putting them to use.

I know the need is a lot greater in some of the other counties as part of our 40 County Coalition but I do think the relationships that get built And this organization really helps our organization be able to contact within state agencies, have relationships. And I think the government I know the Government Affairs team at RCRC is heavily relied upon in both houses and legislature and in the governor's office.

We also have some significant legal talents within the organization too, and that we're often people turn to for even helping us write legislation. Even though we're rural where you know we have members that are on both sides of the aisle with our organization and those that are independent. And so we already come together to kind of really push what does counties need in the state of California? So thank you Patrick for being here I wanted to at least start with that but then I'll turn over to some my colleagues Supervisor Hartman

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ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:27:31

Yes, well first of all thank you to Chair Nelson for representing us on RCRC and taking leadership. And I know it's many trips to Sacramento a lot of miles. Also the 3% down payment is an extraordinary program available to our county workforce. I think we need to figure out how to make that more I think it's out there, but you know kind of gets.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:28:11

If you're in the market for a home, you're going to see that come across your email and it's going to catch it. And that's why we have nine people actually if you look at the list of people that are participating in it, Santa Barbara County is one of the higher users of this program. I think I've been talking with Supervisor Pachon up in San Luis Obispo County I do think we need to get to the mortgage brokers in our community. You know, 4600 county employees represents quite a few workers in our community that might be stopping off at one of our local mortgage brokerage companies looking to move forward and I think they're the ones who are going to have to say if you're a county employee Make sure you go ahead and use that program. You don't head to HR as your first thought process

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:28:49

when

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:28:50

you're trying to buy a home?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:28:51

Well, I mean 3% off a 20% down payment for costs here that's really a big deal and I don't know how you do it but it's an amazing program. I guess my next question is your relationship with the CPUC mainly having to do with broadband or is it broader?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:29:10

It's broader and I'd say we've carved out a niche in working with CPUC as you may know it's a pretty Byzantine agency when it comes to participation and engagement on their processes. We are now engaged in over, I think it's 15 proceedings if I'm remembering correctly off the top of my head And oftentimes, a county will actually engage an attorney if they want to engage in a proceeding. It's that challenging. So we have dedicated staff who are really experienced in the world of the CPUC that has enabled us to engage in these 15 proceedings which range from utility regulation costs, utility costs to broadband, to the use of biomass materials for energy production. So it's an array of proceedings that were engaged including carrier of last resort And we've had a number of our counties express concern about basically AT&T's, in this case attempt to move straight to eliminating carrier blast resort service when those communities feel like there isn't yet an alternative that can replace it particularly in the era of emergency response.

So we've been directly engaged with CPUC and now are directly engaged even in the litigation front as a result of that.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:30:15

And I probably should know this but what's a lettuce curtain?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:30:19

The lettuce curtain was that in here?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:30:21

Yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:30:21

Which one was, oh that was the RAI tour so that was Monterey County. So basically we took our urban staff, urban legislators for a look behind the lettuce curtain in terms of the agricultural region and what it takes to sustain the workforce housing things like that for the agricultural employees that produce the lettuce that we all enjoy

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:30:41

We just had a farm day that did something similar.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:30:44

Yeah, I think it's one of the slang terms in Monterey County like we might say north of the tunnel in Santa Barbara County. It's the lettuce curtain in Monterey County is what's often expressed. Exactly.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:30:55

And then I have a question about the recreation economy you're doing studies. Can you expand on kind of what's happening in rural counties with regard to the recreation economy?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:31:09

We actually have a panel presentation on that at our annual meeting tomorrow morning, where it'll be- I'm going

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:31:14

to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:31:15

be there. How the recreation economy can support tourism in rural communities that may be still struggling to thrive with the loss of timber production and some things that historically preserved their economies. But looking at how do you nurture and support a recreation economy without having it have a harmful impact During COVID and particularly, we found that resources in say in the eastern side of the state were overwhelmed by the number of visitors. So how do you manage a recreation economy in such a way that community thrives but you have the resources you need to make sure you're serving those residents and balancing all that? And that will be sort of the topics we'll be exploring.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:31:51

In that regard, you do research. Do you offer technical assistance or if a rural county is interested in pursuing it what will they get from our

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:32:01

service? We could we don't have one specific to that topic but we do have another as an example for the North State counties we have about a dozen that we submitted a grant to the Behavioral Health Commission on and were awarded five million to convene them to examine are there more efficient ways to basically administer and provide behavioral health services across the North State counties. Looking at everything from infrastructure, to workforce, to how they do contracting and technical assistance will be a key element of that. And so the short answer is yes our strategic plan says that when our counties have shared interests then we are to act as a convener to help bring them together because particularly for the small counties they don't often have the capacity to do that.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:32:40

How long has RCRC existed?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:32:43

1973 and it's present form but actually goes back to the 50s in terms of when it was initially conceived.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:32:49

Okay, thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:32:51

Excellent, great questions Supervisor Hartman. Supervisor Kaps?

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.942:32:55

Yeah, thank you so much for the presentation and thanks to you for your leadership. I know again it's a huge commitment and I'm glad we're represented. So your presentation referenced this partnership with UCSB on fire and capacity and emergency management services. I just would love to hear a bit more or if you could point me in my team to more information?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:33:17

Yeah, the genesis of it is particularly for a lot of our small counties that don't have a county fire department or a master CAL FIRE contract. They have a patchwork of small fire districts and those small fire districts and this is true across the U.S., are seeing decreasing volunteers volunteerism but increasing call volumes and obviously that doesn't sustain and they don't have sufficient funding for paid staffing so these counties have been sort of trying to address this on an ad hoc basis and the legislature has just been Blissfully unaware, my term. And so our goal was to use this report to really provide some statewide data in terms of is this truly a problem and if so what's the extent of it? And so for those counties version one of the report that Dr.

Murray produced documents all that. It will probably look pretty basic to those that are deep in the issue because it's what they know but it's the first statewide report of that nature. So now we're taking that statewide report and we're working with CAL FIRE We'll be working with Cal OES, we're working with public safety committees within the legislature to raise awareness around the issue because ultimately it's probably going to take some state level support for those counties to achieve sustainability in terms of providing fire and EMS. The second piece, the second report he's working on right now is going to look at health inequities associated with that so looking through a health equity lens what does it mean you're one of these rural communities And you have diminished fire and EMS capacity.

How does that affect the health equity within that community? So looking at that, and then having that additional data along with building out okay what can we do about it? What are the recommendations so then we can advocate that at the state legislature but also for those 20 counties that are trying to deal with this on a head-on basis. Now they'll have sort of a toolbox they can look at that was developed, that was California specific.

So it's Dr. Murray, UC Santa Barbara, the Wildfire Resilience Center that is the lead professor on the study and then his graduate students are supporting him.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.942:35:07

Oh, that's amazing. So the report is being generated from UCSB?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:35:10

Yes. We're funding it. We have a contract with UC Santa Barbara to fund his department working to develop that report.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.942:35:16

And you said it's Dr. Murray?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:35:17

Yeah and he's been very collaborative. He came to our December Board of Directors meeting last year I think and did a breakfast session with our board and walked them through the first report and hopefully we'll do the same for the second. But UC Santa Barbara and Dr. Murray have been great to work with which is why we returned to do a second report with them.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.942:35:32

I'm really glad to hear that. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:35:35

Thank you. Do we have any public commenters on this item?

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.752:35:40

Chair Nelson and members of the board, we have no requests to speak from the public on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:35:44

All right, well Patrick thank you for being here and thank you for updating us. That's one that I think the other added values with RCRC is that they come back and they do a an annual report to us and we're involved in a lot of different organizations and I think this is when those value-added just kind of sparks a lot of our imagination on where we should be asking questions or utilizing this resource that it is available to us so

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 17Proposed2:36:04

appreciate that. And we'll see you in a little

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:36:06

bit. Right, so if I get a motion to receive and file this item?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:36:12

So moved. Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:36:14

A motion from CAPS, second from Hartman. Seeing no further lights all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passed unanimously. All right let's go ahead and

move on to item number four. Madam Clerk will you please read that into the record.

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ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.752:36:36

Chair Nelson and members of the board Department item number 4 is from the Community Services Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding a resilient Quiama Valley initiative transformative climate communities grant application and this is in the first district.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:36:51

All right, Mr. Amos Thank you, Chair Nelson and members of the Board. Before I comment on the item that we're presenting this afternoon, I want to just build on Supervisor Hartman's question about the recreation economy and we're going to have some representation tomorrow because we think there's an opportunity for us to learn something from that as we bring forward later this year the rec master plan so you'll see a connection there from what we heard today.

For the recent in recent times, a community services department generally and the sustainability division specifically have has been spending a fair amount of time trying to address a number of issues in the Koyama Valley. We've had some success. We received some grants that it has allowed us to do some planning effort but as we all know Planning is one thing, trying to move that to actual implementation is critical and requires resources to be successful in that respect. This afternoon we want to present to you an opportunity for us to apply for and we're optimistic that we are competitive and can secure some funding that could make a significant difference in the Cuyama Valley. So with that intro I'd like to introduce Garrett Wong who's our Division Manager and his team to present the material and then we're happy to answer questions.

CommentGarrett WongProposed · by introduction2:38:16

Thank you, Jesus. Good afternoon Chair Nelson on the board. Garrett Wong here with the Sustainability Division and we're pleased to present our Resilient Cuyama Valley Initiative and our proposal to submit a implementation grant application to the Transformative Climate Communities Grant Program Before we talk about the initiative and the grant itself, I'd like to situate the audience in the Cuyama Valley and its context.

Cuyama Valley is situated between the four counties Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Kern and Ventura. And it's at the farthest reaches from large urban centers and therefore has less access to amenities that we would typically find easily available Cuyama Valley consists of three disadvantaged unincorporated communities that have been identified by the county's comprehensive plan. Those are New Cuyama, Cuyama and Venticopa.

The recently adopted environmental justice element also identifies these communities as environmental justice communities. And we also have a Climate Change Vulnerability Assessment that identifies these three communities as frontline communities, meaning these are the communities that experience climate change impacts the most directly and the most severely. And also would likely have the least ability to respond and react to certain impacts.

These are terms that are We are looking at things that the community lacks, but we also see a positive aspect to the valley and its residents. And despite all of that, despite historic underinvestment and disengagement, the Cuyama Valley remains resilient. And so we've pulled together the Resilient Cuyama Valley Initiative to lift up community priorities but also to lift up the assets in the community.

And the partnership through this initiative would not be possible if the community was not responsive and not supportive of our efforts in the county's presence. So with that, I'm happy to present and introduce our staff who have been working on this initiative and are working on this grant application. I'm going to turn it over to Malia Josephine, our Climate Program Specialist.

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CommentMalia JosephineProposedself-stated2:40:58

Good afternoon, Chair Nelson and the Board. This is my first time presenting to you all and I'm excited to do so. My name's Malia Josephine. I'm a Climate Program Specialist within the Sustainability Division. Next slide please. So the grant program that we are applying for is named the Transformative Climate Communities Program which I'll now refer to as TCC.

TCC is managed by a state agency, the California Strategic Growth Council which is a cabinet level interagency body housed within the Governor's Office of Land Use and Climate Innovation. The funding for this grant program historically came from the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund which collects proceeds from the State's Cap-and-Invest Program to finance statewide California climate investments But currently, the grant program is funded by Proposition 4.

Proposition for climate bond dollars represent a voter approved $10 billion state fund dedicated to financing California's environmental protection projects. The purpose of the TCC program is to develop and implement neighborhood-level transformative climate community plans that include multiple coordinated greenhouse gas reduction projects that provide local economic, environmental and health benefits to disadvantaged communities.

In the TCC program there are three types of grants that build on each other. This means the grant program incentivizes applicants to move sequentially up to the next grant level. The first one being a planning grant which funds the identification of priorities and the development of a community plan with up to 300,000 awarded. The second is a project development grant which funds piloting projects, feasibility studies and developing shovel-ready projects which funds up to $5 million. And we are currently around six Project Development Awardee which I will review more in a moment in the next slide.

And the last one is the Implementation Grant, which funds larger capital projects and community scale programs of up to $27.5 million, which is the grant we're currently pursuing. Next slide. So in 2024, the county was awarded a $1.1 million project development grant based on our resilient Cuyama Valley Initiative application. Our partners for this grant included nonprofits Community Environmental Council, Quail Springs and Blue Sky Center.

Through this grant, we've been building rural resilient neighborhoods through piloting programs and conducting feasibility studies to be able to scale these programs and projects to implementation. Our initiative spans across energy efficiency, water access, Food security and resilient infrastructure. And to date, we've built 40 backyard home gardens, installed eight greywater systems, installed 30 energy retrofits in homes, redesigned three alleyways and a pedestrian and bike path that will provide a safe school route is soon to be under construction.

Additionally, our grant partners have hosted dozens of workshops and community events engaging over 400 Cuyama Valley residents in our initiative. Next slide. That brings us to the implementation grant. The implementation grant must fulfill three TCC programmatic objectives. Number one, achieve significant reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. Number two, improve public health and environmental benefit. And number three, expand economic opportunity and share prosperity.

Our TCC application is required to fulfill the grant framework that is visualized to the right of this slide. Our grant is required to have a vision statement and at least three projects that are within three strategies. At the top you'll see our vision statement, and our vision statement was developed in collaboration with local community-based organizations and Cuyama Valley residents.

At the bottom corner, you'll see a box titled Transformative Elements and there are six elements that are required part of our application which include a community engagement plan, displacement avoidance plan, workforce development plan, a third party grant evaluator, climate resilience outcomes and 25% leverage funding. Leverage funding is a source of funding that will be used to support the implementation of the projects and can come from a variety of sources. For our application, all of our leverage funding requirement is being provided by our co-applicant, The Housing Authority of Santa Barbara County.

I'll now hand it to Juliana to review our project portfolio.

PresenterJuliana JossSustainability DivisionProposedself-stated2:46:05

Good afternoon, Chair Nelson and members of the board. My name is Juliana Joss and I'm an Energy Program Manager with the Sustainability Division. And with the Project Development Grant, I've been managing the home energy projects that Malia referenced, and I'm excited to share how we are deepening and expanding our work through our portfolio. So Malia mentioned the strategies within the grant and the three that we've selected are equitable housing in neighborhood development, solar installation energy efficiency and health equity and well-being. So those are the three rows at the top of your screen.

For equitable housing and neighborhood development, we're excited to partner with the Housing Authority of Santa Barbara County to develop and construct the Perkins Place apartments. Within solar installation energy efficiency, this will be a continuation of the Kuyama Home Energy Retrofit Program or CHERP expanding from kind of 31 off energy retrofits to deep home energy retrofits and at least 100 homes which constitutes a significant portion of homes in the valley. And also expanding into facility improvements for a network of community and critical services in the valley. This is the county owned Kuyama Family Resource Center, Blue Sky Center which is economic development nonprofit The Cuyama Valley Recreation District, which is positioned to serve as a resilience hub during emergencies and power outages.

And then the Cuyama Community Services District or the Water District, a project to provide solar and battery backup to their groundwater pumping facility to ensure that residents in the valley in the township can have access to water even during power outages. Under health equity and well-being, some of that work that Malia referenced about safe routes to school will continue with significant improvements to the Cuyama Joint Unified School District.

And finally, rounding out the strategies, the Cuyama Food Hub which will provide healthy food to Cuyama residents and have cold storage backup at the Family Resource Center. Cold storage with battery backup at the Family Resource Center And then through the bottom of the screen, you'll see those plans. The Community Engagement Plan, the Workforce Plan, the Displacement Avoidance Plan and these projects are continuing with some of the partners that we worked with in the project development and also expanding into other partners namely the Center for Employment Training in Santa Maria to provide at least 50 Cuyama residents with With trainings through their program in HVAC and green construction.

So as you can see that even within this robust portfolio, we had no problem finding projects for $27.5 million. A mandated part of this grant by the Strategic Growth Council is the collaborative governance structure. And this is a body that we as the lead applicant, as the county will facilitate and its goal is to ensure inclusive and equitable decision making in community engagement. As you saw from our project portfolio, we are involving A network of different organizations and this collaborative governance structure will be one of the modalities in which we work collaboratively as lead applicant and our partners throughout the grant period.

And one of the actions from this item today will be authorizing the county to sign this document on which all of our co-applicants and partners have already signed with the county being the final signatory. And just to give you all some perspective on the long haul and some would say epic nature of this grant, the final application is due in about a week on September 30th. And then there will be a long review period and we will not have the announcement of this grant until summer of 2027 of next year.

And then the implementation will begin in fall of 2027. And then this is a five year grant implementation period, which includes that final year of evaluation. So this is a project that will if we are successfully awarded will be a long haul and consistent effort from the county and our partners And with that, I will turn it back over to our Sustainability Division Manager Garrett Wong to close us out and present the recommended board actions.

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CommentGarrett WongProposed · by introduction2:51:31

So as per usual, we're presenting this grant to request authorization to apply. If awarded, we would also seek authorization to execute the necessary grant agreement. The Strategic Growth Council is keen to see these projects get started soon after award and therefore advance authorization is expected. And then finally executing the collaborative governance structure worksheet, which as of this point only serves as a broad framework for the collaborative governance structure and we would follow with a collaborative governance agreement that would formalize our partnership through an MOU In closing, I would really like to emphasize two major points. One is the level of deep engagement and partnership that we've had with the community and the agencies and organizations that exist in Cuyama Valley.

The work that we've done and this application to date would not be possible without their support, without their contributions and their leadership. Really this is an opportunity for the county to bring resources down into the community and it's the leadership, the prioritization that the community has identified that helps us navigate these resources to hopefully fulfill these needs.

And the second part I'd like to really emphasize is the amount of work that our team has done here. Julianne and Malia have been all stars in wrangling our partners and all the grant requirements, it's like a tip of an iceberg we kind of look at everything here in a simple presentation there's a lot of work happening that goes unseen and I just want to recognize them for their hard efforts We're submitting this application in just one week and right after we leave this meeting, we are going back to working on all those components but we are very confident that we will submit it complete and on time.

And the county is in a unique position I think we have a lot of assets going for us that build off of our prior history with the grant program with the community and also having a pro-housing designation which was secured a few weeks ago, which also earns us a few additional points in the scoring criteria. So with that happy to take questions. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:53:54

Questions from the board. Supervisor Lee?

CommentGarrett WongProposed · by introduction2:53:56

Yes,

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.862:53:57

first I'll say great presentation. I want to say thank you to you Garrett, Gianna and Malia for your hard work on this. I do recognize that. Great job on your part. So my question is for the Perkins Place affordable housing development which is on slide six. Can you explain a little more about what that development will look like?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:54:22

Well, the housing Supervisor Lee through the chair of the Housing Authority has been attempting to actually execute this project for a number of years. They've run into a variety of challenges as noted in the project description. It will result in some 33 affordable units that can meet the needs of the residents in that area as well with with some relatively modest commercial space interpersonal project

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.862:54:48

good and do you know how much their housing authority will be contributing?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:54:54

Do you recall? We'll confirm that in a moment. But the gap is what has prevented them from reaching the completion stage, so success with this application will really make the difference.

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.862:55:08

Good. And just a follow-up question for the workforce development programs, will this include opportunities for local students or youth to participate?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed2:55:19

It's across the board as you can see with the nods to my right we want to reach out to the population as a whole, the young people as well as the adults.

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.862:55:28

Okay those are my

CommentGarrett WongProposed · by introduction2:55:29

questions Supervisor Lee through the chair. So on the housing project, the Housing Authority already has committed a little over $17 million to the project and so the funding that we're allocating will help complete the funding stack that's required. And then for the Workforce Development Economic Opportunities Plan, the partnership with the Center for Employment Training would allow us to recruit and enroll up to 50 students in various trades programs.

CET offers green building HVAC and green technology and medical assistance work through the grant if awarded would be to focus our recruitment in the community, to make sure that Cuyama residents are able to participate in those programs. There'd be some programs that would take place in Santa Maria at their campus and then some that would take place in Cuyama and then some that would be offered virtually.

The long-term goal is to have these students passing through these programs and ultimately be able to serve on these projects, either learning through learning experience or being hired as a contractor to implement some of these projects.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role2:56:41

All right. Thank you, Supervisor Hartman.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:56:45

Well, this is tremendously exciting. Kiama is really our most isolated community and it has tremendous potential but you know how to get the attention that it needs given it's so far away is always a challenge so I'm really excited by this proposal. I'm excited by the careful work that has gone before to make us so competitive this go around. I just have one question and that is Our environmental justice element identifies Kiyama clearly as one of the communities that we're, five communities were focusing on.

And you're doing a lot of community engagement work which is terrific but I don't notice any of our county agencies as partners public works on safe routes to school or fire maybe on resilience And so I guess it's a simple question really. In all this engagement that you're doing, I hope you're getting feedback to give to our agencies because I think that it's always hard they can't come and testify easily you know three minutes for public comment and so this offers an opportunity to be a conduit to the broader county organization.

And so you really are boots on the ground now, and if you get that even more so. So just wonder if you'd comment about that?

CommentGarrett WongProposed · by introduction2:58:22

Thank you Supervisor Hartman through the chair. Yes, so this is a very simple representation of how the county is showing up in Cuyama. There are a lot of other departments that are partnered with us that are active in the community and we are basically a liaison. So for example, the County Long Range Planning Division has been active with our project development grant and they'll continue to be active With this grant if awarded, there are elements in our displacement avoidance plan and the community engagement plan. As you know, the environmental justice element has implementation actions and the planning department would be involved in leading on those areas.

We're also involving our Office of Emergency Management. They are also engaged through the Community Engagement Plan. We're actually hosting an event next month in the community to provide a resource fair, and the Office of Emergency Management along with the Fire Department are planning to give a presentation on winter storm preparedness for the community And we're hoping to do more emergency preparedness and planning in the community since that's a high priority for them.

Public Works has also been involved, especially with the alleyway projects and the pathway that connects the Nuku'yama to the high school. So all of our partners are really engaged in different ways

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.872:59:51

Great, that's good to hear. I guess that leads to the next question. We don't have to put any money up. The Housing Authority is kind of the match. Do any of these activities that you just described count as give us extra points? Or in-kind contributions in any way?

CommentGarrett WongProposed · by introduction3:00:16

So the scoring criteria Sorry. So most of the scoring criteria does not actually factor in the leverage funding as a point category. It is a minimum that we have to meet, and so we're happy to have the Housing Authority contribute to that. We are contributing from other areas as well such as staff time and other sources. We work to manage the Tri-County Regional Energy Network, 3C REN, And so the facility and home improvement projects would be potential beneficiaries of rebates through 3C-REN as well as potentially through 3CE. So those are the areas where we're able to leverage potential funding sources.

The areas where we're maximizing and optimizing our points is really the thoughtfulness in which we're designing our projects to ensure that we're meeting all of the criteria for each strategy and the transformative elements. And then also making sure that we are codifying and documenting those other criteria such as having a prior grant through the TCC program or having pro-housing designation, or being a disadvantaged rural community which is another extra point which we can earn.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.873:01:48

Well if we get the grant it really could be transformative to that community in an ongoing very important way so congratulations.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:02:01

All right, I did have some questions about the going back to slide six there for a moment. Can you explain to me a little bit more about this displacement avoidance plan? What is, you know, is that coming back to the board at some point? Is it gonna be planned that we're gonna adopt at some point or where is it gonna have kind of a baseline and solutions to avoid displacement causes of displacement?

CommentGarrett WongProposed · by introduction3:02:25

Chair Nelson, yes thank you for the question. So the displacement avoidance plan, the crux of that is to ensure that the investments coming through this grant do not inadvertently displace existing households and existing businesses as you can imagine in other communities more urban populous communities there can be I think it's a little bit of different dynamic in the Koyama Valley given that we're trying to keep people in the community. When there are already displacing forces when it comes to available employment opportunities or water availability or cost of living and so So the first one is to establish a community land trust and that would be a regional entity that could help to acquire existing housing rehabilitated and then turn it over to potential property owners in the community.

We are implementing education programs for tenant rights to make sure that folks who are participating in our home energy retrofit program, especially those who may not speak English as a first language understand their rights and are not negatively impacted by any investments made in the properties. We are also going to be doing outreach on behalf of the county, hopefully after an ordinance is adopted that would expand the opportunity for employers to provide housing on their properties particularly for farm workers.

And then there's also an element for existing businesses, so Blue Sky Center provides technical assistance to new and existing businesses to help them build or expand their services and their offerings. And then there's what we're calling the Water Access Preservation Program. So this would be an opportunity for us to help mitigate some of the challenges associated with the water adjudication process that is currently underway in the Kiama Valley where Landowners and residents are having to engage in a lengthy legal process to essentially fight for their water rights.

There could be an opportunity for those who have wells, and are somewhat of a de minimis water user under five acre feet to meter their wells and therefore be excused from the adjudication process which is costly and burdensome for them. And those meters would help to ensure that the water access is preserved. So those are the five program areas that we're contemplating for the Displacement Avoidance Plan.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:05:19

So I know that, you know, last week we acted upon an oil and gas ban and one of the things that was part of the documents that was in the record was talking about needing have plans in place prior to moving forward with this, to deal with displaced workers. Right? You know and that study that it was done by a UCSB professor talked about that you know With these bans and these transitions that are forced on by the county, those people will typically leave the industry and leave the area altogether. Are you guys incorporating those findings in the board's actions at all into this avoidance, this plan?

It seems I mean it seems very topical when we're on it. And I mean it seems we're displacing workers with one hand and then saying we want to protect them with the other. There's got to be a way for you guys to marry that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:06:15

Chair Nelson, I think there's an opportunity as we dive deeper into the workforce development effort to see whether there are opportunities. As was noted in one of the slides, green job is one of the component parts here that there may be an opportunity to help in this skill development. Anything the board ultimately does in the future is going to be multi-year in nature. And so there will be opportunities through the development of these kinds of training opportunities to help those that might be impacted by the policy decision the board ultimately makes.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:06:48

Yeah, I think it'd be helpful for us because I know that there's a lot of slogans that people say oh yeah we're gonna find jobs for people and their green jobs when not but You know, the job goes away and there's nothing really there. And so that's what I'm saying at this avoidance plan if there could be some concrete solutions in place. This is how many jobs are likely to get displaced by the county's actions and here are the jobs with a similar incomes that they can still stay in their community that they can fill you know not just going to hammer a few nails at a house or install heat pump once like, like a job that is that's lasting. Understood. So they have right now a job in that area that they can you know sleep in their own bed go to work come back home right?

That's going to go away in the future if the board continues with what we're working on so how do we get this placement plan a way to address that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:07:41

Well, the displacement plan is separate than what the concern you're raising. Although there's some overlaps as I understand your remarks Chair Nelson. The displacement is to make sure that the actions associated with this grant aren't the cause of any adverse impact. The point you're raising is one that we need to study independent of this grant

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:08:04

Okay, all right. And so just to look at this placement in this grant cost $800,000 and it sounds like a big number.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:08:13

I think there are as Mr. Wong mentioned or a variety of measures that are going to be looked at to see how we can best achieve the goal and it's it helps us as we develop a competitive application

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:08:26

Okay, thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:08:27

I would also note an important point here and that is there are no general fund dollars associated with this endeavor. The team has been very successful in identifying other sources of revenue cognizant of the impacts the county has been experiencing fiscally so there are no general fund dollars associated with this effort

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:08:49

on top of $1.4 million for you guys to administer it, right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:08:53

All of that is coming through the grant. There's no saying yes and also as Mr. Wong mentioned there's an opportunity for us to dovetail this with the work that we do with 3C-REN and the board a number of months ago approved submittal of the next round of the business plan for 3C REN

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:09:12

Thank you. Madam Clerk, is there any public comment? Oh sorry, Supervisor Harmon, I missed your

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.873:09:16

line. Just one more. Would you tell us more about the Community Land Trust and would this be the first in the county and could this be a template then for others?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:09:28

Can I put a larger plea to this because it's well, this is an opportunity. This isn't the vehicle solely driving this you'll recall that when we presented the workforce housing study last year the plan included a number of recommendations including the exploration of the formation of a land trust And so we're actually examining that question more broadly than just specific to this grant application.

Our HCD team hosted a webinar a few weeks ago to begin that dialogue and to examine what all that would entail. It's not an easy proposition, and it requires a fair amount of cooperation and engagement. So we will be coming back at some point with our conclusions. Okay, thank you.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.873:10:28

Could you just describe how they operate? Just so everybody knows. Thank you.

UnidentifiedClerk of the BoardProposed · by role3:10:34

Supervisor Hartman through the chair good afternoon Lucille Boss housing programs manager also with community services. Community land trusts are often under an umbrella of a housing trust fund so the housing trust fund is typically funds that are through philanthropic but often public funding sources as well dedicated to The permanent affordability of housing development, whether through new construction development, acquisition of land and rehabilitation.

So Housing Trust funds typically fund those activities. Community Land Trust is the ownership and long-term preservation of land for affordable housing. So they typically operate hand-in-hand and as Director Armas alluded to a few weeks ago, the county in partnership with the Santa Barbara Foundation and a couple of community land trusts and housing trust funds from around the state hosted an informational webinar for elected leaders around the county to learn more about how this might be implemented.

So as far as operations, it is a separate entity, a separate nonprofit entity. But I believe that we're interested in pursuing that in partnership with Santa Barbara Foundation.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.873:11:56

Thank you. I think it's such an important concept because our hands are tied so much on how we keep things affordable over time, especially in the workforce housing. So if the model I'm familiar with in Oakland Where the trust owns the land and the people can own the house, they get some appreciation but you can keep it more affordable because the land is held in trust. So I think it's a really great model and I'm glad that we're looking at it even more broadly than I realized.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 18Proposed3:12:29

It's a bit analogous to the decision the board made to earmark the current probation site as a housing effort because we're contributing the land and therefore can make the project pencil.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:12:46

All right, thank you. Are there any public commenters on this item?

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.753:12:49

Chair Nelson and members of the Board yes we have one request to speak from the public on this item and we are going to remain here in Santa Barbara with Daisy Weber.

CommentDaisy WeberProposedself-stated3:13:02

Good afternoon Chair Nelson, members of the board. I'm Daisy Weber. I am a staffer in First District's office. I have the pleasure of covering Cuyama for our office and I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you so much to the sustainability team for all of their incredible outreach and community work that they've done it's been Very heartening to see how much you've reached out to the community. I have been on monthly meetings with the Cuyama Valley Citizens Association and Malia takes 30 minutes every meeting to really go through the updates of their grant application, and is making changes in real time based on community feedback so I feel like oftentimes we, our job is to represent the government back to the people and the people back to the government.

And every time there is a really positive interaction with other government offices and folks it really makes our job as staffers easier so I just really wanted to say thank you so much and put the positive energy out that we get this grant I just want to say thank you again to the CSD team.

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ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.863:14:40

But also I want to highlight the partner organizations for the work on this. They may be watching right now, so I want to call them out. First is Blue Sky Center, Quail Springs CEC, Cuyama Unified School District, Cuyama Rec District, Cuyama Community Service District, The Family Resource Center, Hess Park Hole and the Center for Employment Training. So thank you to everybody who has gotten this far. It's very exciting and hopefully we can get this $27 million grant is going to change Cuyama, it'll make it more amazing than what it is today so I'm in support. All

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:15:17

right thank you Supervisor Lee. Supervisor Kaps.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.943:15:21

Yeah, I didn't ask a lot of questions because I almost didn't want to jinx it. It's such a huge amount of money and I can tell by the presentation and by what Supervisor Lee and his able colleague Miss Weber said that there's been so much progress that's happened even without getting the grant yet. So I'm in full support and just giving my enthusiasm without getting too excited because we have to get the grant but it sounds really really good.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:15:50

All right. Chair Lee, do you want to make a motion?

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.863:15:53

You guys ready?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:15:54

Yeah.

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.863:15:54

All right. I move staff recommendation A, B, C and D. Okay.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.943:16:00

I'll second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:16:01

Okay, a motion from Lee, second by Kaps. Any further discussion? Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passed unanimously with one absent. All right, plugging right along. We're going to go to Department Item number five. Madam Clerk will you please read that item as a record?

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ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.753:16:28

Chair Nelson and members of the Board, departmental item number five is from the Planning and Development Department. It is hearing to consider recommendations regarding the Airport Land Use Compatibility Plan ALUCP consistency amendments.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed3:16:59

Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and members of the board. We are here today to bring forward the Airport Land Use Compatibility Plan Consistency Amendments. Back in 2023, SPCAG had adopted a new airport compatibility plan and each jurisdiction is required to make amendments to be consistent with that. So this is our effort, we're bringing it forward and we have Mr. Ben Singer here, a planner who's been working on it, David Lackey, our supervising planner and Alex Tuttle, our deputy. And with that I will turn over to Mr. Singer.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:17:35

Thank you Director Plowman. Good afternoon Chair Nelson, members of the board. We can just get right into it A little bit of background on the Airport Land Use Compatibility Plans. They are required for all public airports within the state, they provide regulations for land uses on the areas surrounding these public airports. Caltrans provides a significant amount of guidance on what the plans are required to have can have everything about them and then the Public Utilities Code section Requires that local comprehensive plans and ordinances must be consistent with adopted airport land use compatibility plans.

From here on out, I'm going to say ALUCP it's just a little bit faster. For the history on this in our county, we did have one old plan that was adopted in 1993 that covered all of the county airports. But then as Director Plowman mentioned SB CAG as the Airport Land Use Commission recently adopted current plans one for each of the airports which are Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Santanez, Lompoc and then the Vandenberg Space Force Base which is a little bit different One of the major parts of the ALUCP is, this is the old ones, the approaching clear zones. These are zones kind of at the end of each of the runways that protect the land uses in those areas to make sure they are safe and don't interfere with the airport The approach zone that you see here is the larger area.

The clear zone is smaller area within this is the Santa Barbara airport just as an example and then the clear zone is stricter on its requirements to the approach zone is a little bit looser but again, this is kind of the old model for this strategy The newer model in the ALUCP's are called the safety zones. There are six of them, one through six as shown on the right hand side of this slide.

The standards and requirements are strictest in zone 1 which is right outside the runway and then each zone you go out they get looser and looser so zone 3 is more restrictive than zone 4 and then zone 6 which is the largest is also the least restrictive Some other things that you see peas include our use compatibility by safety zone. So for each of those zones, it lists a whole lot of different uses and whether or not they're allowed into what density includes updated noise contours related to the flights and other operations of the airport.

And then there are requirements for ODIFR flight notifications that are recorded on properties if they're going to be air flights overhead. And then the potential for avigation easements, which are easements to allow use of the airspace above a property. Getting into what's proposed today. We have ordinance amendments to the county land use and development code an article 2 coastal zoning ordinance they're really parallel the same across the two areas just to have consistent requirements that they will up repeal There are compatibility of uses based on the safety zones, which includes a new appendix listing all of our county uses and the compatibility of them based on the safety zone. There's a list of prohibited uses in development. There is density limits and standards.

There's height limits noise standards. And then like required by the LUCPs there's requirement and standards for avogation easements and overflight notifications Along with this to replace the approaching clear overlay zones, there's rezones for the new safety zone. So that's updated for areas around the 5 airports, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, San Islampo-Vandenberg and then in the coastal zoning maps it's the Eastern Gleada Valley Zoning Overlay Map and Gleada Community Plan Zoning Overlay Map which are just around the Santa Barbara Airport.

Additionally, there are some comprehensive plan amendments related to this. There to the land use element which includes text amendments so that they're consistent with the ordinances and with the L U C P S and then map amendments to include The Goleta community plan is getting similar updates to those in the land use element, but as well as a noise standard. A lot of it's really just updating references to different zones replacing approach and clear with safety zones small things like that.

And then the Orkut community plan is also being updated. Again, many minor consistency updates. One other thing in the Orkut community plan however is the repeal of the Orkut no-build corridor so you're seeing a visual that on the right hand side this is a 1500 foot wide corridor kind of pointed out of one of the runways It's really an older. Requirement the original you CP wanted it and the county put in place back and I believe that 80's for safety but with Air flight safety and things like that. It's really something that is no longer required to maintain safety and lane use compatibility, and we did talk with SB CAG and their team on this to confirm that they didn't see any requirement to keep it for safety or anything like that.

The Coastal Land Use Plan is also getting updated. The Gleda Community Plan is getting the exact same updates as those inland, it's just mirroring that and then the map amendments within the coastal area similarly just getting updated with the new zones. These amendments were reviewed by the Airport Land Use Commission as well as SBCAG. The ALUC reviewed them and found them consistent with ALUCP's in May of this year And then the county planning Commission reviewed all of these amendments on July 1st of this year and recommended approval to your board without any changes.

As far as environmental review of these goes the land use elements and when using development code amendments and when just a moment could reason can be found exempt pursuant And the Coastal Land Use Plan Amendments, Coastal Zoning Ordinance amendments and rezones can be found exempt pursuant to Guideline Sections 15061B3 and 15265. The recommended actions for your board today are make the required findings including CEQA findings, find the amendments exempt from CEQA and improve the amendments by conceptually approving the comprehensive plan amendments which is case 26 GPA 1 and then continuing them to the window date which is the item at today's hearing after this one.

Then adopting a resolution amending the Coastal Land Use Plan, which is case number 26GPA2. Adopting the ordinances which are case numbers 26ORD4, 5 and 26RZN3 and 4. And then adopt a resolution authorizing submittal of these to the Coastal Commission and direct Planning and Development to transmit these amendments to the Coastal Commission. That is the end of my presentation but we're happy to answer any questions you might have. Thank you Questions from the Board of Supervisors?

ElectedRoy LeeSupervisor, District 1Proposedvoiceprint 0.863:25:21

Good. Great presentation, straight to the point. My question is does this overlay have any impact for the City of Santa Barbara to develop their land south of Hollister?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:25:34

Supervisor Lee through the chair, our ordinance does not affect the City of Santa Barbara. They are similar to us required to update their ordinance and general plan to be consistent with these. The same is true for the city of Goleta. The city of Goleta has already put in an ordinance a while ago for consistency. The city of Santa Barbara I'm not sure I haven't been tracking what they've done on this.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed3:25:57

But Supervisor Lee through the chair, they would be subject to any restrictions that the airport had. So they have land north of Hollister as well that could potentially be impacted depending on how the new zones are laid out there but like the county and the City of Goleta, they would be subject to the same regulations.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:26:21

Supervisor Hartman? Supervisor Katz?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.873:26:23

If I understand, there's been kind of an evolution for these zones. They've been sort of broadly defined and now they're more fine grained in how they allow for the intensity and density of uses. My question is what happens when there's already housing there? And it already maybe violates what these land use plans might say because it was built prior to this. Does that happen? I mean, this isn't in the county but on Elwood Mesa the planes come like almost to lights over the houses so just wondered if you could give me that explanation so I better understand.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:27:14

Supervisor Hartman through the chair. Yeah, there are definitely I'm sure quite a few cases where the existing housing or other land uses aren't going to comply with what this plan requires the plans themselves as well as our proposed ordinance is pretty clear that this applies If it's too tall or if it's too dense, is not going to have to change. It's essentially legal non-conforming. If one of these housing developments wanted to tear down and build something else then these would apply but for everything that's existing these are not gonna add more requirements that they suddenly have to meet

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.873:27:56

Is it technically legal non-conforming? I mean people can go in and expand their homes and make a two story home out of one, right. Which wouldn't be allowed with the legal non conforming normally, right?

PresenterMalia JosephineProposed · by introduction3:28:10

Great question. Supervisor Hartman through the chair So within legal nonconforming, you are subject to certain criteria in terms of what you can or cannot do on the property. Generally for like single family residential development and things like that with regard to these new rules, there's pretty broad latitude as to what you can and cannot do or what you can do on your property for that level or intensity of development. It's more like the larger uses or where there's public assembly, or maybe more dense housing.

Where density starts becoming an issue depending on which safety zone you're in. So generally with legal nonconforming, you are allowed to make modifications and remodels and work on your house or on your property so long as you're not exacerbating a nonconformity But the way the ordinance is set up, the focus in terms of the impacts on any existing development would really be primarily targeted at the more intense levels or the more intense land uses.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.873:29:23

So maybe UCSB student housing, the height and the density. I mean, I'm just trying to really understand what we saw in the housing element in D2 where this did come into play with one of the properties. But I'm just trying to understand the application of it more.

PresenterMalia JosephineProposed · by introduction3:29:44

So with that example, UCSB it's outside of the those airport safety zones. So it would not be impacted or really any of Isla Vista would not be impacted by the airport landing is about to build planets mostly in that Eastern Glade Valley area on the for Santa Barbara at least in the east side of the The airport where there are some restrictions that we've seen that with some of the housing projects in the South Patterson Avenue corridor and having to modify some of their projects or sort of where they arrange their housing.

In order to comply with the standards and And one thing to be clear is regards to what we do with our ordinance, the applicability of the airport land use compatibility plans exists. So in the absence of updating our ordinances projects have had to go through a consistency review by the SBCAG and by the ALUC for compatibility with those plans once we have our ordinance adopted and our comp plan amendments consistent That review for consistency would happen through our department without having to go through that separate process, which would make things easier.

And then Ms. Plotman just wanted me to note that there are instances where the board may have the ability or opportunity or request to override a finding, if there's a potential issue where someone's proposing a certain type of development that may on its face create an inconsistency, there is opportunities for board overriding those standards.

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.873:31:21

Thank you. Like the previous item that you presented, you've shown your work and there's a lot involved in what seems fairly straightforward.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:31:31

Thank you Supervisor Hartman. Supervisor Kepps?

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.943:31:33

Thank you. Yeah thanks for this presentation I just really have a question about processes and different groups and trying to make sure I understand how everything fits together or if it does fit together because Supervisor Hartman and I represent the area around And I just want to make sure that. The left hand is talking to the right hand or is that appropriate? I just, I don't really understand how the two things, how they work together. We certainly reached out to Chris Hastert, the airport director and he took a look at the presentation and certainly didn't find anything that contradicted what the work is happening but I just want to make sure that we're not just working parallel with our partners but actually Supporting them. So maybe you can speak to any kind of outreach or input?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:32:38

Yeah, Supervisor Caps through the chair as far as these regulations there hasn't been significant outreach or input from a lot of these groups this is primarily just adapting the ALUCPs and the requirements within those to our ordinance so that we then retain our jurisdiction over making compatibility decisions. The ALUCPs do include noise discussion and new noise standards for new construction. So things like houses built within certain of these new noise contours must include, you know adequate noise reduction so that the interior sound level isn't so high there's I don't remember the decibel numbers off the top of my head but discussion of that as far as some of the noise reduction for the airport I think that's really going to be more involved with the airport operations and something like the airport master plan which this is a parallel effort of these alien CPS really do not affect the operations of the airport.

They don't try to get there looking just at the surrounding land uses and how we can be there those can be compatible knowing that their flights horrific but possible bull event that there is a issue with one of the planes that's coming and we want to maintain the safety of the people surrounding the airport, but it's not affecting the operations of the airport.

ElectedLaura CappsSupervisor, District 2Proposedvoiceprint 0.943:34:06

Okay. I mean, I just appreciate the difference and thank you for spelling it out more clearly than I was able to get from reading the reports but if you know they might read headlines if this generates one and so I just would encourage if there can be outreach to these we did so again like I said yesterday with the airport director but just so that there's understanding of sort of where this fits in the puzzle.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 19Proposed3:34:32

And Supervisor Katz just to add to what Mr. Singer had provided, a lot of the initial public outreach and development plans was through the SB CAG staff and so they worked with all of the communities and jurisdictions in development of these plans and had public outreach and notice and certainly as part of that process there was an iterative process certainly with Santa Barbara Airport where the zone's initial technical reports were proposing the different zones We're sort of on the tail end once SBCAG board adopted these plans for each airport.

We're just incorporating those into our zoning ordinances and policies

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:35:15

And then one final thing to add on the outreach that I remembered is that in advance of both this hearing and the Planning Commission hearings, we did send notice that we were bringing these to the hearing bodies to each airport. So each of the airport directors or airport boards would have received notice that these hearings were happening and that they were able to review these ordinances and things like that.

But we have not heard any response from them on these.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:35:45

Okay, thank you Supervisor Kapsch. A couple questions I have. No Lompoc Airport because that's all within the city limits? Is that right? Chair

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:35:53

Nielsen there is requirements for the Lompoc Airport. The airport itself is within the city limits so as the Santa Maria and Santa Barbara but there is a little bit of the safety zones that is within the county so if the standards do apply to those kind of limited areas as well.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:36:11

OK, was that in our maps? I didn't see Lompoc in our maps.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:36:16

That would have been in the rezone map as which was attachment G. Yes, I believe there should have been maps for the Lompoc area and attachment G for that. The presentation only used the Santa Barbara airport just as an example of what the safety zones look like.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:36:42

It's not in attachment G, by the way. So I or maybe that no other it is. I see now. OK. Thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:36:52

and also note that attachment G includes the kind of limited amount of Requirements that we have for the Vandenberg Space Force Base. One of the kind of broader notification area that's outside even the safety zones for Vandenberg does stretch out into the Lompoc area, so there are some requirements there but the safety zones really aren't a thing for the Vandenberg base.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:37:17

Okay thank you and I think I just missed it so I'll take the blame on that one. Going back to the comprehensive plan and You said that the Board has the ability to waive some of these conditions in the future. Is that so, and what's that process? I mean is that like a comp plan amendment or is there a simpler process for the board to waive a condition you know because I mean look at this thing has evolved over the last 20-30 years you know we're just this is kind of a moment in time. So making sure that that's an easy process for us I think it would be a preferred.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed3:37:58

Mister chair. It really is the interpretation of the airport land use plan becomes the discretion of the board and so if there is a particular use that may be in conflict with one of the standards in And it does not involve an amendment to the comprehensive plan.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:38:25

OK, that's helpful and hopefully that's something we can harken back to maybe if there is a conflict in the future that we have this conversation here today going back to you were talking about the residential uses that are already within those zones I just want to drill down a little bit deeper. Like what about an ADU in the backyard or on the property? Is that going to be further densifying that, is that can be allowed in area that would not be allowed I'm going to turn it over

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:38:57

to the chair. Thank you. Thank you. Thank currently. Sure Nelson. So that can be considered kind of more density. The only zone safety zone that it's really would be a concern with, I would say would be safety zone 2 which does cover some residential areas and primarily in Orkut in the other airports. It's less so but what we've added Basically are entirely within that zone. You cannot build residential on your property outside of Zone 2.

It does not preclude you from building a single family home and then ADU or kind of other potential dwellings that are provided by state law, they are by right, you must be able to build them so The only safety zone that would preclude any development like that would be Zone 1, but there's no residential properties within Zone 1.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:39:50

So just to clarify, Zone 2 will be able to do additions, ADUs, remodels?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:39:58

The only possible caveat is if your property was half in Zone 2, half in Zone 3 the preference is that you build in Zone 3 rather than in Zone 2 because Zone 2 has higher safety concerns. Got

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:40:14

it. Okay thanks for the clarification that's helpful. All right any further questions from the board? Seeing none Madam Clerk is there any public comment on this item?

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.753:40:22

Chair Nelson and members of the Board we have no request to speak from the public on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:40:28

Does somebody want to make an additional comments or a motion? Supervisor Lee. Motion, yes please. All right and move stack recommendation A B C D and E.

CommentDepartment ItemProposed · by introduction3:40:36

Second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:40:37

Okay so motion from Supervisor Lee second from Supervisor Hartman any further discussion seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye motion passes unanimously with one absent. All right thank you very much We're going to start with item number 6. And you can stay right where we're at and go to item number 6, I'm clicking please read a number 6 of the record.

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ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.753:41:07

Chair Nelson members of the board departmental item number 6 is from the planning and development Department. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed3:41:26

We have condensed amendments to our land use element into this single action today because we are only permitted four amendments per year to this element. And so Ben Singer is going to make a presentation about the two approvals that we have condensed into this one action, Mr. Singer.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:41:49

Thank you Director Plowman again. This one will be even faster than the last presentation A little bit more on why a window date. Yes, as Director Plowman mentioned government code section 65358 limits the county to four amendments to any mandatory element so that's something like the land use element as well as a few others housing circulation but we're talking about the land use element today This year we are expecting to have more than four projects with land use element amendments. So you can combine multiple projects with amendments into a single comprehensive plan amendment that covers kind of a wider breadth.

We have some other land use element window dates in mind for the rest of this year, obviously today September 22nd but then we're planning November 10th and December 8th as potential land use element window dates for kind of the remainder of our projects of this year There are two projects that are included in today's window date. The first is utility scale solar amendments, the board hearings on July 14th and September 1st covered this. On September 1st the board conceptually approved the land use element amendment which was case 26 GPA 5 and then continued just that portion of it to today for the land use element window date for final approval And then you just heard the Airport Land Use Compatibility Plan consistency amendments, which one of the actions on that was also to continue approval of the land use element amendment case 26 GPA 1 to this item for final approval.

I'm going to go straight into recommended actions. The recommended actions for your board are to adopt the land use element window date resolution, to approve and adopt the utility scale solar land use element amendment again twice case 26 GPA 5 and the airport land use compatibility plan consistency of land use element amendment case 26 GPA 6 or 26 GPA 1 excuse me We're also happy to answer any questions on this item. Thank you.

Questions from the board?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:44:04

I have a question, so I've heard this a few times that we can only do is four times a year and I just can't believe it to be true. But I mean, I'm sure it is because you keep because we keep saying it It seems like there's some functionality problems with this. You know, like for example we're going to be bringing forth two items one item I voted against and one item I voted for.

And I'm just trying to square how we do that with these types of things as they get more and more complicated. So I mean I vote against it because I'm not gonna vote for something I voted for before but then now I have to vote against something I voted for so it's really a complicated process and I don't see why you know I've been in the county for a long time, and I've never seen this happen this way.

And so again, I'm kind of confused by this whole entire process. It seems odd. And this year hasn't been anything special. I mean, we're doing stuff like this all the time. It seems like

PresenterMalia JosephineProposed · by introduction3:45:05

Mr. Chair, members of the board You raised a very good question and you are correct. We have not had to do this in quite some time I think we're looking back at examples of the last time we had Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the board. I'm here to talk about land use element amendments from 2015-20 years ago or so. I guess sometimes success and productivity creates added challenges so we just happen to have a number of projects that have all stacked up this year that involve land use elements including both long range planning items as well We can certainly in the future try to anticipate how we might package the items to avoid a situation like this. But

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:46:03

well, the last thing I want to do is hold up somebody especially private applicant that's got a project. I mean probably had taken three or four years to get through our process anyway to hold them up for a couple more months to try to make something aligned just doesn't make sense. So I'm not super excited about that idea

PresenterMalia JosephineProposed · by introduction3:46:19

Yeah, so you will see on November 10th it's anticipated that two private applications the Consolation General Plan Amendment and the Malcolm General Plan Amendment are proposed to be bundled. That would constitute a window date action. At least one of them

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed3:46:50

So it, you know if we I. As a as Mister told said you ask a very good question. For those 2 on in November to not run into a problem like this. And so we created the window dates so that we could make sure that we could move the projects forward as they were coming together and try to condense them onto hearings.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:47:18

So, the whole purpose is we send these up to the state? Is that right?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 15Proposed3:47:21

This is the state's requirement.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:47:23

Because we send something to them,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed3:47:25

right? Chair Nielsen, no this isn't about sending anything to them. The state government code just sets how many times a jurisdiction can amend a mandatory element of their general plan so the land use element the state says you can change this four times a year and that's it okay

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:47:42

All right, just seems not super functional. Maybe we should talk to our delegation actually about fixing that because it doesn't as there's more and more mandatory elements, right? I mean that's what's also happening is the state's dumping more and more mandatory elements on counties. That might be a arbitrary number now or not appropriate number so might be something want to add to our ledge platform to get that up so we don't come into these.

I want flexibility. I mean I think it's what the whole board wants Maybe the state needs to catch up. So I'm just editorializing at this point, not asking a question. So no questions from the board? How about questions from or do we have any public commenters on this item?

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.753:48:26

Chair Nelson and members of the board, we do have one request to speak from the public on this item. We are going to remain here in Santa Barbara and go to Michael Rattray. Michael.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 20Proposed3:48:51

Thank you, Chair, Supervisors. I do want to talk about the proposed 16,000-acre utility solar framework. Before we start legislating homeowners and businesses to convert to electrification, we need to pause and ask why we are still ignoring relevant science and data Compiled by many scientists and anthropologic greenhouse gases, especially emissions from natural gas which is I think this is mostly about. Studies have shown the most methane pipeline linkages come from tiny fractions of infrastructure often caused by faulty valves, unlit flare stacks, hidden pipeline fractures which have and continually being addressed manually in this time. But most promising if you didn't know this Dr. Ira Leffer and he's a UCSB retired professor Has pioneered customized mobile air quality vehicles and labs with highly sensitive lasers that can measure trace gases down to instantaneously mapped invisible plumes in their exact source.

So we do have progress that's going on, and it happens to be right here in our own Now at a macro level, and you may not know this, Nassau Garden Institute for Space Studies published in the IPCC six assessment report most recently that developed that they have developed climate emission models that now parse out both natural and human agents Altering Earth's energy balance. Their findings indicate that the calculations of all human emission factors equates to, and I'm going to repeat it 1%, 1% of our Earth's massive natural energy flow and that's from Nassau. When our human variability is that tiny, isolating within a both chaotic and predictable climate system sets a very incredibly high bar for predictability.

Yet this body is treating this 1% variant as settled emergency ignoring prominent physicians I would like to begin by thanking the members of the board who have argued that natural cloud cover and infrared saturation makes human driven forcing far more stable than political summaries suggest. County households that comes to over $40,000 per family when recovered through future monthly electric bills.

40,000 equally as important families will also face devastating out-of-pocket conversions burden somewhere between 15 and 20 or 30 thousand dollars to upgrade main electrical panels expensive heat pumps and replacing perfectly functioning appliances A foundational rule of good governance is ensuring that the benefits of a policy far outpace the cost to pursuit.

Please protect your constituents financial stability and vote no until we better understand the underlying science and costs of this current plan. Thank you.

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ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.753:52:18

And that concludes public comment on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:52:20

All right, so back to the board on this any further questions or comments? I think I'm going to land on abstaining since I'm against one and for the other. I don't want to vote against one of that I voted for before, so I'm just going to abstain on it. Council are we gonna be able to pass this with three votes?

CommentMaureen EllenbergerProposed · by introduction3:52:42

Mr. Chair yes.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:52:43

Okay all right. I mean that's functionally the best way for me to do it and stay true to my previous votes. So with that can I get a motion?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.873:52:53

I'll move staff recommendation. I'll second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:52:56

All right any further discussion on the motion? Seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstain? Aye. And then one absent so it's 3-011 I guess. So three affirmative votes. Lee, Hartman and Kaps. One abstention Nelson. Labadino absent. All right. So that concludes item number six and moving on to our seventh and final item of September.

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ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.753:53:42

John Nelson and members of the board. Departmental item number seven is sponsored by Supervisor Hartman's office. It is a hearing to consider recommendations regarding an ordinance, excuse me, ordinance changes to permit beekeeping in unincorporated Santa Barbara County.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:53:58

All right, Supervisor Hartman you want to get us started?

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.873:54:04

Excuse me. We heard from our public commenter earlier that this was an idea that came from the public, particularly my constituent in the San Ynez Valley. I was a beekeeper at some point so I had some knowledge of this that the setbacks are pretty stringent in unincorporated county areas and so we were eager to work on this. Chair Nelson, your office has also worked on this issue and unlike Supervisor Lavinino who actually did the work on the ordinance we have multiple departments who are involved here so because of the eight-hour rule we're coming to the board to authorize the departments to bring us back a final ordinance.

CommentGina FisherProposedself-stated3:54:55

All right. Good afternoon, Chair and members of the board. My name is Gina Fisher. I'm Supervisor Joan Hartman's Chief of Staff and pleased to be here today. We are big fans of bees in the third district. In fact, all that the pictures come from our office. And so we like to see bees busy at work. Today's item asks the board to authorize work on ordinance changes that would allow appropriately scaled beekeeping in the unincorporated county.

The goal is somewhat straightforward, create a practical pathway for responsible beekeeping with standards that address neighborhood compatibility public safety and the protection of native pollinators The county's current rules under Code Chapter 7-31 provide some setbacks that generally require hives to be at least 300 feet from a property line, except when used for crop pollination and 600 feet from another person's residence without the occupant's permission.

The distances effectively rule out beekeeping in most residential and smaller agricultural parcels. The existing framework also does not meaningfully distinguish a few backyard hives from a larger commercial operation. We're asking staff to develop standards suited to different scales and settings, Local governments throughout California have different setbacks. Some as close as five feet to the property line when city has a minimum 10-foot barrier from a dwelling in Santa Barbara County, Buelton has the least restrictive ordinance requiring a hive to be only 25 feet from our property line with a maximum of one hive per property.

Managed honey bees provide agricultural and community benefits, but European honey bees are not native to California. And high concentrations can compete with native bees for pollen and nectar. That is why a native pollinator protection is an explicit consideration for this proposal. Staff could evaluate hive density and location, encourage native habitat and plantings and consider safeguards near sensitive areas. The review would also address practical concerns such as flight paths, swarming water resources and fire safety as current beekeeping regulations some live within our County Fire Code. Beekeepers agricultural producers and native pollinator experts could help inform this work Because this work involves multiple departments and will exceed the eight hours of staff time, a board authorization is needed.

Over the years the Board has heard public comment from residents asking for this work. The recommendation is for the Agricultural Commission to lead the review and to coordinate as needed with fire planning and development or other relevant departments consult stakeholders if needed and return within six months for proposed amendments for implementation Today's action would authorize that work. Any ordinance changes would return to the board for consideration. We recommend approval of the actions outlined in the board letter for today's administrative direction and so here are the recommended actions for your consideration, and if you have any questions or...

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:58:21

Questions from the Board? Not seeing any. Is there any public comment on this item?

ClerkJacquelyne AlexanderChief Deputy Clerk of the BoardProposedvoiceprint 0.753:58:28

Chair Nelson and members of the board, we have no request to speak from the public on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:58:32

I'll just note that we had heard from Fred Razo during public comment about this item. All this comment that as Supervisor Hartman mentioned our office has actually looked at it as a staff myself some years ago and we had many meetings with the beekeeper associations. At that time actually they were concerned about being regulated a little bit because they're concerned about registries and things like that And then also about maybe theft once people knew that they were located in certain areas. So there was some of the concerns that were out there at those times, you know this has been about 10 years ago or so but I'm glad that we're going to do something about it. I mean I think it's a shame that it's not lawful for you to be able to have these in a residentially zoned property in our county.

So especially since a lot of our unincorporated residential zones are fairly kind of rural suburban it seems way appropriate It's allowable, so I'm excited to see something come forth and back to the board at some point. So I'm all on board. All right, so Supervisor

ElectedJoan HartmannSupervisorProposedvoiceprint 0.873:59:35

Hartman? I'll move staff recommendation.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role3:59:37

Great. I'll second. So a motion from Hartman and a second from Lee. Any further discussion on the motion? Seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes 4-0. All right, well I believe that concludes our meeting for today. We are adjourned to our next regularly scheduled meeting which will be October 6th here in Santa Barbara. See you then.