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Mr. Villalobos, could you please make the TV coverage announcement?
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Thank you.
Could we please go to the agenda status report?
Good morning, chair and members of commission. In regards to the status for our agenda today, we have two items on our standard agenda. The first item is the handrail for a footpath I would like to that on that day we had continued the utility scale solar amendment project and that will be here in Santa Barbara. Again, that's May 6th. After May 6th, we cancelled the 13th and so we will not reconvene again until May 27th and that will be here in Santa Barbara and we have the continued item of Chick-fil-A and then we also have the Stanford Farms Trust appeal of the Terrell parcel map And then after that, we will be reconvening on June 3rd in Santa Barbara. Two items on that. We tentatively placed the BROC core investment investing determination and then the five-year capital improvement program on that one.
And then on June 10th, we'll be in Santa Maria for a tenant parcel map in the St. Ignace area and then a development plan permit transfer for the Santa Maria asphalt refinery. Again, June 10th is in Santa Maria And then we will be back in Santa Barbara on June 24th for the Airport Land Use Compatibility Plan and Consistency Amendments. That concludes the projection report, Mr. Chair.
All right thank you. Now normally in our agenda we would proceed now to general public comment but due to the unusual nature of our proceedings today we're going to go directly to Planning Commissioner's informational reports So with that, I would like to ask Commissioner Cooney
Thank you Mr. Chair, I do appreciate having you adjust the agenda as it would take a long time if we didn't but most of you know by now that this will be my last meeting on the Santa Barbara County I'm here to report and a real Supervisor Naomi Schwartz and there have been so many good experiences with staff, with especially my fellow commissioners that it definitely was a difficult decision.
However Supervisor Roy Lee, when he assumed the chair at the Board of Supervisors. He asked if I would consider extending my time on the commission And I agreed to do that for one year, which is now lapsing. So it's been a pleasure to extend the year and this year has been like all the rest full of interesting and worthwhile matters. I tried to remember all the fellow commissioners that I sat with, but it would take a long time. Our business is our business and we need to get on with that.
There is no staff, no set of supervisors and no greater opportunity to participate in the government of Santa Barbara County than being on the Planning Commission. And for that I will be forever grateful. Thank you.
Thank you. I know like so many others I share My appreciation and gratitude for your great length of service to the county and to the commission. And I really cherish the time I've been able to spend and get to know you, as I cherish the opportunity even sit next to you on this commission. So with that, I think we are next going to talk about a resolution we have prepared.
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Chair and commissioners, Mr. Villalobos is going to read and present a resolution that has been prepared for Commissioner Cooney so we'll proceed with that.
Thank you Secretary Wilson and thank you everyone for being here it looks like we have a little bit of a crowd say goodbye I'll just sorry, I just read this into the records a little awkward. Whereas Michael Cooney has provided exemplary and faithful service to four different board members in the first district for nearly 22 years beginning in 2004 with review of the El Capitan Camp Brown CUP revision at his first hearing and countless other energy long-range planning and development review projects along the way Whereas Michael Cooney has been a model of tact, poise and consideration in his relationship with staff the public and fellow commissioners.
Whereas Michael Cooney continued to provide leadership, perseverance and stability during COVID-19 time of planning commission hearings hosted remotely. Whereas Michael Cooney's deliberations on projects always involved making sure that the proper level of environmental review was being applied with a certain suspicion of notices of exemption. Whereas Michael Cooney strived to weigh and balance the concepts of the residents of Carpinteria and surrounding areas as he thoughtfully and deliberately considered permits for cannabis operations.
Whereas Michael Cooney in his various comments, questions and deliberations has been concise and efficient in communication whether in probing for facts or providing insight and guidance and has proven a constant asset in facilitating the Commission's ability to render well-reasoned and just decisions. Whereas Michael Cooney always made sure that no semicolon was out of place during his thoughtful and thorough review of the Commission's meeting minutes.
Whereas Michael Cooney provided excellent leadership and guidance following the January 9, 2018 debris flow in the adoption of the like-for-like ordinance. Whereas Michael Cooney has provided invaluable mentoring and advice to other commissioners during his tenure And whereas Michael Cooney has consistently led the commission by exhibiting the highest standards of grooming, style and tutorial splendor.
We express our appreciation to Michael Cooney now therefore be it and it is hereby resolved the Santa Barbara County Planning Commission and on behalf of staff and the citizens of Santa Barbara County present this resolution to First District Commissioner Michael Cooney passed and adopted April 29th 2026
So I as planning director am going to take the liberty to share a few remarks. I've known Michael for a very, very long time and he is a very special person. He has provided incredibly steady leadership on this commission and shown a commitment to public service that is incredible. You've always been civil with your commissioners, with the public, with the staff.
Your intellect has been invaluable on complicated projects and in times of crises. And just your commitment to good community planning. And you've been a good friend to me and to my team, and we are going to miss you very much. And one thing that was supposed to be on that resolution that I really wanted to remark on was your ability to sustain yourself on a bag of potato chips and an apple for 22 years.
And with that, we have a gift for you. Potato chips for at least a week. You
can pick it up on the way out.
Yeah, so thank you so much Michael. As I said we are gonna really really miss you and that we appreciate everything you've done for the county and for your community and We wish you the best in your future Retirement and and that you get to have a lot of trips and spend a lot of time with your family and your dog And really enjoy life Thank you
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I am moved by just the presence of all or many of the people that I have worked with on the Commission and staff that I have gotten to know on the Commission. You and Diane before you have been friends, and it's been a pleasure to be able to help wherever it can be given. So nobody appreciates the success of the County of Santa Barbara and its many, many endeavors I joined that group and as I said, I will never forget a single moment. Thank you.
And with that I'll invite comment from other commissioners then we'll afford some time for general public comment and from Supervisor Lee. Commissioners?
Am I next? Yes Well, Mike has been a pleasure reading you and you were one of the first persons I spoke to. Obviously we've been sitting next to each other these past well it's probably been over a year now in regards to us sitting next to each other but you definitely have been a leader and I recognize you as such and I recognize that your commitment to what you're doing here today is something amiable and something that we should all look up to in regards to serving our county our community and just being a professional I appreciate that and wish you the happiest future.
I knew this day would come sometime, but I've rued the day. One thing that I feel satisfied with is I finally get to call you something I've always wanted to call you but thought I would hold off until you were off the commission and that is Professor Cooney. You taught us all a lot and I think it's brought intellectual integrity to the Commission to serve with you And I'm going to point to two things that are of special importance to me.
You've always exhibited the belief that we have a fair process and we need to follow that process. I remember as a new commissioner, not really understanding the process very well. We think about, oh what are my politics? That doesn't really matter. What do I like or don't like? That doesn't really matter. Look at the findings. Can we make the findings or not?
And if we think that we're not going to make the findings and we're going to vote against a project, then be able to articulate why we can't make the findings in the reverse. If we're going to vote for something, we articulate why we support the findings and I've learned that from you makes it a more satisfactory process for me and I think it better serves the public.
The other thing that I've tremendously admired is that sometimes we all get a little irritated, and sometimes we get irritated with some of the appeals that we get. That's my special source of irritation when something's just so groundless and silly but you always Thank you for your time. years together as attorneys in Santa Barbara before either of us came upon this august body.
And I remember practicing in front of you when you were on the Planning Commission and I was still practicing, and it was funny that we'd finish a matter in the first district whereas every other planning commissioner in a district rushes to talk about the matters that are in their You would always say, well I'd like to hear from my other commissioners and then I'll speak. And there you go.
Wish you the best.
Thank you John. Am I next? Great. Michael, although we haven't known each other for long just about eight months, I'm in awe of you. You are a legend in this town. You and your wife as I think some people know but maybe not all received the outstanding couple in service award from the Santa Barbara Foundation and when I read all that you accomplished I was really filled with gratitude. In particular, of course being an educator your dedication to kids has made such a difference including your long service on the Montecito Union School Board and of course your beloved volunteer assistant baseball coaching at my alma mater Santa Barbara High School.
Also everyone should know that you were on the State Aid Commission as well as the Commission on Teacher Credentialing And you add that to your long service on the Cancer Foundation and then the Planning Commission is nothing short of impressive. So personally, I'm just so grateful for your thoughtful perspective every time and your gracious help and friendly outreach to me as a newbie. So basically, you're amazing. Thank you.
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Just finally myself, I said some of it before but I feel really privileged to have had the chance to know you and to serve with you for about two and a half years. of what my vision was of a thoughtful, considerate well-reasoned decision maker who sits on a board or a commission such as this. Among most the people I've ever known you're one of the rare few that seems to be truly kind and truly have a kind of a quiet dignity about you.
I think that's quite evident in your consideration of the issues before you, in your treatment of those that are before us and with whom you serve. And I really appreciate your quiet counsel and I would say coaching as I became chair I've only met about two other people that have those qualities. Sorry, both of them ironically attorneys. Not you John but one a very accomplished patent trademark and copyright attorney I used to work with in San Francisco another land use and energy attorney in Los Angeles and then you're the third. I mean you just have a dignified manner of doing things It's kind of an inherent wisdom that I really appreciate. So I've been honored to serve with you and honored, as I said before, to have the privilege of sitting beside you on this commission.
So thank you and good luck to you. With that, I will be quiet and we'll allow just general public comment. And I think we will start off with Supervisor Lee.
Thank you Chair Reed, Chair, Commissioners. Mike, thank you for your service all these years. You are such an amazing person and someone who I have great respect and honor to go through four supervisors That's that's a lot. Now after today you can tell me who is your favorite supervisor but I won't tell them the others, but I value our friendship and we'll continue to do so. I'll continue bother you when go out for lunch and but you are Jim you're someone who I will continue to be friends with, because you are someone who have done so much for not just the district but throughout the county.
So thank you for what you've done and we're not done. We'll go do something big for you later on at the Board of Supervisors. So I hope everybody can be there and show him support. So Mike, thank you.
Thank you, Roy. Next Mr. Chatillo.
Thank you, Mr. Reed. Michael? I, as a frequent flyer to the Planning Commission and somebody who was here back in 2004 and had the fortune to work with Naomi Schwartz when she seated you in the Planning Commission. I knew that we were in for a good ride. Myriad projects probably a couple of hundred or so that I've had a chance to work with you on Michael that have really been Significant and have helped shape the county Clearly over the course of 22 years, you've had the Incredibly important role of providing guidance to every other planning commissioner. That's come along and that stature And your view of decorum and the importance of process, hearing from the public. As a member of the public I really valued that and treasured it and very much appreciate you.
It's a sad day. And it's a day to celebrate all the great work that you've done and how you put our county into the place that it is and made it accessible for the public. I just wanted to say briefly.
Almost everybody in this room and all the people up on the dais today are invested in the future of this county, in this community. But few have done that or exemplified that value with as much grace and calmness as you have, Mr. Cooney. I actually met you a long time before we've met in this context. You were very nice to me as well when I was a lot younger but I just want to say thank you so much for your service. It's been incredible to work with you. You've taught us a lot and thank you for being patient with a couple of newbies on the street here. So thank you for your service. Thank you very much
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Any others, we're not doing speakers slips but if you feel the need please come up. All right I think we'll take a recess for about five minutes oh we have one? Oh good okay come on down Hello.
OK, I'll add to the record. So as a staffer of former First District Supervisor and our current Congressman Salud Carbajal, I would be remiss if I didn't add his respect, admiration, and trust to this record today. So just want to thank you on his behalf, and Jeremy Tittle as well, and the whole first district, and the new first district in the long term So if there are no others, we'll take a five-minute recess.
Okay. Welcome back to the April 29th hearing of the Santa Barbara County Planning Commission. I apologize that our break was a few minutes more than the five minutes I quoted, but there were some details we needed to handle with the departure of our colleague and friend Commissioner Michael Cooney. At this time I would like to proceed to general public comment At this time, we afford the general public the opportunity to make comments on items not on today's agenda.
Mr. Villalobos, do we have any requests to speak from the general public?
No speakers online and seeing no one rise in the hearing group, so no.
All right. So we'll proceed to Planning Commissioner's informational reports. Do we have any information reports From any commissioners at this time? Seeing none, I think we will proceed to the minutes of April 8th. We will proceed to the minutes of April 8th I would invite Commissioner Cooney to give us a report since he has been proclaimed to be the most competent Okay, so for the minutes of April 8th have you noted any corrections additions or deletions?
No I might have found one but forgot it in the review process. So I would move approval of the minutes as presented.
Okay I would be happy to second all in favor? Aye. Now the Director's Report and the Board of Supervisors hearing summary. Ms. Plowman
Good morning Mr. Chair, members of the commission. Recent actions at the board have included the budget workshops and I'm not sure if you monitored those. It was a particularly challenging budget year with a lot of cuts to the social services and county health. So it was a tough year for the board. They had worked to restore, I think it's about 150 employees in those departments to ensure we can deliver those services.
The planning department had asked for restoration of one position, but I didn't have an expectation that we would get it given all of the other important services. We need to continue to provide. We do have a potential grant opportunity that we are seeking now that we hope could help fund the restoration of that position so we will keep you apprised of that. So currently The way the department fared is we did remove two positions that had been vacant. We left them vacant because we anticipated this was going to be happening from long-range planning, so we went from 15 available staff to 13.
So what that does is just slow the work of that division. It doesn't cancel any particular project. But I will keep you apprised of our ability to get a grant because it's not easy to get grants these days. They are few and far between so this is related to the safety element, this particular one. And then on the 21st we took the local preference marketing plan concept to the Board of Supervisors and they did make a few changes to it which I think were beneficial They extended the amount of time that developers have to reach out in advance to local businesses, chambers and different associations to 12 weeks. So 12 weeks before they start marketing to the general public they've got to make these efforts with the local organizations.
They also at the request of Supervisor Hartman added the Santa Ynez housing market area. And there was some discussion of adding other housing market areas but they, their other board members did not move forward with that concept. They have decided to keep it to those two housing market areas for now. It's possible that will be expanded at some point in the future but there was a question raised about that and In particular, in North County and those board members did not take that up. So with those changes we're going to be coming back I believe it's on the 5th on the administrative agenda. And then it will go into effect 30 days after that. So I am grateful for the commission's contribution to that. I think as far as I know, we're the only jurisdiction that has a program that attempts to address local housing for market rate units.
And we're going to be sharing what we've done with other jurisdictions in the county to see if they have an interest in doing something similar. Future board items include a briefing to the board on the 12th of May, which is about increasing the number of ministerial permits. So that means basically downshifting them from a land use permit or a coastal development permit which are appealable down to a ministerial permit like the permits that we grant for the housing element projects. So they are not appealable and so the board will be giving us direction, we've given them some concepts to provide for them to consider and then they can share whether or not they think we're going in the right direction.
And then on the 23rd of June We are taking back the oil and gas amendment to the board that the Planning Commission heard. And so they will be taking action on that day. And that is all I have today, and I'm happy to answer any questions.
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I've got a couple.
OK.
OK. On the local preference, you said the 4th and 5th District supervisors it was their election that it not be explored at this time? That's correct. OK. All right. I had another question but it slipped my mind. But so that's fine. Thank you.
All right. Thank you very much.
Looks like we're ready for our standard agenda. Mr. Villalobos, would you please read the first item and to the record?
Yes thank you Mr. Chair. The following is a hearing on the request of the property owner Robert McKay at BMO LLC to consider the following case numbers. Case number 25 DVP 0001 and 25 CDP 00008 and to determine the project it's exempt from CEQA pursuant to state CEQAs guidelines section 15303
Good morning Mr. Chair and Commissioners, my name is Veronica King and I will be presenting the BMO LLC handrail project The subject law is outlined in red, addressed as 2305 Finney Street within the Summerland Community Plan area. The figure on the left shows the site's location between Lookout Park to the west, the railroad to the north and the Pacific Ocean to the south.
The parcel is 0.34 acres and is split zoned. As shown on the figure to the right, the western half is in the recreation zone and the eastern half is zoned R1 for single family residential. All proposed improvements are located within the Recreation Zone portion of the site with no changes to the residential area. Under Article 2, any development in the Recreation Zone requires a Development Plan and Coastal Development Permit which is why this otherwise minor safety handrail project is before you today.
The configuration of this split zone parcel was established through a lot line adjustment, rezone and general plan amendment approved by the Board of Supervisors in 2003. As part of that approval, a development exclusion area was created on the recreation zone portion of the parcel to limit future development. Within this area only minor accessory structures such as fences walkways and drainage devices deemed appropriate by planning and development are permitted An existing private stairway is located within this development exclusion area. The stairway descends from the applicant's deck and provides the connection to the Morris Place Trail below.
Notably, this feature is recognized in the Summerlin Community Plan as an existing improvement that is allowed to remain. This slide shows photos of the existing stairway. The image on the left shows the stairs descending from the Hopkins Deck to the Morris Place Trail below. The center image shows the stairway as it ascends toward the deck. The image on the right shows the base of the stairway where it meets the Morris Place Trail looking south towards the beach.
The project is a request for a development plan and coastal development permit to construct a three-and-a-half foot tall metal handrail along an existing private stairway to the beach. The subject law is outlined in red, and is bisected by the Recreation Zone District in green, and the R1 zone district in yellow. The Morris Place Beach Access Trail is depicted in blue Applicant's private stairway shown in orange connects to the trail.
The proposed handrail, shown as a dashed lime green line will be installed along the north side of the stairway to improve pedestrian safety On the left is a site plan showing the proposed handrail along the existing stairway, and on the right is an elevation of the handrail. The stairway is bordered by landscaping and boulders. Under the 2003 approval any structures within the development exclusion area must be set back at least 10 feet from the Morris Place public trail and limited to a maximum height of 4 feet.
The project meets both of those requirements. The blue line on the left shows the 10 foot setback from the trail and the handrail will not exceed 4 feet in height as shown on the right. The project complies with all applicable development standards in Article 2 and is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and Summerlin Community Plan policies. The scope of work is limited to the installation of a handrail along an existing stairway on private property.
Because the work is confined to this existing stairway, there are no impacts to biological resources, no grading or disturbance to the site, and no known cultural resources will be affected. The handrail is low profile and not visible from the beach, so it will not impact public views or the visual character of the area. Overall this is a minor safety improvement that is consistent with all applicable policies.
The project is exempt from environmental review pursuant to CEQA Section 15303. The installation of a safety handrail to support pedestrian use of an existing private stairway qualifies as the construction of a small structure and is therefore exempt under this section. Staff recommends your commission make the required findings for approval, determine the project is exempt from CEQA and approve the project subject to the conditions of approval.
Staff is available to answer any questions. Thank you.
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Any questions of Commissioner Cooney? Not at this time. No questions.
Chair and Commissioners just a reminder.
Excuse me
Do we do ex parte before we did that? No, we didn't.
Ex parte? Anybody do any ex parte? Any site visits? Discussion with the... No? None. Okay no ex parte I have a question or two We know how high the rail is it's three and a half feet high How long is that from one end of the steps to the ten feet from the trail
Chair Reed, I can double-check on the actual length. It extends from the deck area on the applicant's property down the stairway and then it does maintain that 10 feet of separation as required by the condition of approval from the prior lot line adjustment so I can measure that.
Just for my own edification, that was a question.
Yeah Commissioner Reed it's about 50 feet.
About 50 feet okay and these the holes for it are going to be bored through the stone steps so not in the surrounding?
What's the
finish? It's gonna be stainless?
Yes stainless steel
Polished or dull?
Well we can, that detail isn't included in the plan set but we can condition the project to be a non-reflective finish if you'd like.
I think non-reflective would be nice again. We've seen people complaining because they see your reflection from a tile in their eye when they're drinking tea so to me that's the only conceivable objections thank you very much And does the applicant have a presentation? Yes. Okay.
Good morning, Chair Reed and Commissioners. Excuse me. I'm Nicole Bergeel with SEPS Land Use Consulting representing the property owners. And I just want to say a few words on their behalf. Ms. King provided all the details I think you need but I did want to say that this is primarily motivated by safety concern. I have permission to share that the owner is 80. He is just recovering from back surgery And you know, this is really going to help him navigate that trail as well as his grandchildren safely. So that's the primary motivation.
What what's the rise of that staircase? The degree of slope how...
You know it's interesting if you look at the plans it really varies because it was an organic trail. It has been there for decades that they reinforced in a few key places with steps so it really varies. It's not consistent. No other questions?
Was the same picture worth thousand words when I look at that and look at that picture doesn't look like anything. I'd want to walk down without a railing so
well in the stairs extend about two thirds and the rest is kind of dirt. So yeah it's a little tricky
no additional questions from commissioners.
Thank you Mr. Chair, I would just mention that it's been several years since I've seen a project on that particular location but it's valuable not only to the owners, but to passers-by trying to get down to the beach. So I think they've done what they should do to make it a safe and A trail that will make sense for that area without causing any other negative effect in the neighborhood.
Thank you. So at this time, I guess we would invite any public comment if there is and do we have
Mr. Chair, no commenters online and I don't believe we've received any physical speaker slips on this item.
All right, I suppose that we will close the public portion of this and we'll invite comments and deliberations from commissioners. Commissioner Ford.
Thank you Mr. Reed, I just would say I could not help but like you think about the safety issue here. I know that I always like to hold on to a handrail as I did over the weekend at Santa Barbara Bowl and as one of the members of the public in our letters said that this would allow for stability and peace of mind. I completely agree it's attractive it blends into the surrounding area so I support it.
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Commissioner Park?
Well, I'm glad that we had such a challenging first district project for Commissioner Cooney's final day and he'll be able to utter his immortal words about The rest of us going first and so forth. But you know, I read the report. I'm disappointed nobody invited me for a staff visit but I'll get over that. I mean for a site visit. And of course safety is paramount. So it's a good idea. I support the project.
My main comment is I'd like to thank Dr. I mean doctor, I was in the medical business for way too long Commissioner Cooney for his insight with respect to safety actually if it were my stairway and I didn't have a handrail I would be afraid someone would fall off of it and sue me so I think it's an excellent idea that I would fully support
Well as a short-termer I would like to move approval of the project as presented today. I'll
second it.
Chair and Commissioners, I just want to circle back on a comment by I think by the chair in regards to adding a condition for non-reflective material. If the commission agrees with that and the motion maker would want to say the conditions as revised today, to include non-reflective material of that handrail. Turning back to the commission, that was a comment I didn't hear discussed with the commission before the motion but if the motion maker wants to add that then my recommendation is just Approve the project based on the conditions as revised today to include that non-reflective material on the guardrail.
Well, as the motion maker I agree with that comment and would treat the recommended action as modified at this meeting.
And is the maker of the second? I accept the alteration of the motion.
All in favor, signify by
Mr. Chair, all staff is still organizing themselves should I read the item into the record?
Thank you go ahead. All
right thank you. The following is a hearing on the request of Los Alamos Investments LLC to consider the following case numbers 23 TRM 1 and 23 DVP 18, 24 RDN 2, 24 GOV 5, 26 SCC 3. And to consider the state California Environmental Quality Act section guideline sections 151868 C4 and 1183 checklist for the 2020-23, 2020-31, housing element update, PEAR build out and determine that all of the environmental impacts of the project are within the scope of the project covered by the PEIR.
That the previously certified PEIR is adequate and that no subsequent environmental review is required pursuant to CEQA guidelines sections 15162, 15183, and 15168C.
Okay, first I'd like to call for any ex parte communications from the commissioners. Commissioner Park?
And I'm sure you're including site visits as well correct? Yes. Yes and I did a drive-by a few days ago back and forth and took a look
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actually on the 14th of April did a site visit with Ms. Jones, the applicant and I believe a representative of the architect. I did that on the 14 then yesterday afternoon after looking at the comment letters I returned and drove around the complete site and looked at it from all aspects That we could proceed with staff. Thank you.
All right, good morning Chair Reed and commissioners my name is Tina Mitchell and today I'll be presenting the Los Alamos Investments Housing Project The project site is shown here in yellow and is located on the eastern side of the Los Alamos Community Plan area north of Highway 101. Access to the site is provided from Frontage Road and Price Ranch Road The project site consists of three assessor parcel numbers that total approximately 30 acres. The two southern APNs are zoned for a 46-unit planned residential development.
The northern parcel is zoned Residential Ranchette with a 5 acre minimum parcel size. Surrounding parcels to the north and northeast are zoned for agricultural uses, To the southeast there is M1 zoning which is the light industry zone, C1 zoning which is limited commercial and a few parcels zoned for single-family residential. Directly to the south is Frontage Road and Highway 101 and to the west there is mobile home plan development zoning, single family estate residential and then the residential ranchette.
Here's a closer look at the existing project site from above. The Rancho Los Alamos Mobile Home Park is to the west of the site and there are seven existing single-family dwellings to the east. San Antonio Creek flows over the project site And there are several structures, including three single-family dwellings and accessory structures that will all be demolished in the lower western portion of the project site.
And there are two single family dwellings in the southeast corner that will remain. I'll give a quick overview of the project description here and then go into more detail on each component in later slides. So the project includes a tentative tract map to subdivide the project site into 77 lots, A development plan for construction of 67 new single-family and townhome units through state density bonus law as well as community amenities for a total of approximately 108 thousand square feet of structural development A road naming request for four new private roads within the development.
A government code section 65402 conformity determination for a voluntary trail easement dedication to the county, and a sign certificate of conformance for two new monument signs at the entrances to the development. This project is subject to several state housing law protections because it's a residential subdivision with multiple units proposed. Pursuant to the Housing Accountability Act, the project is only required to be consistent with objective requirements.
Housing development projects cannot be denied or required to reduce the density unless the decision maker finds with substantial evidence that the project would have a specific adverse effect on public health and safety. The applicant submitted a complete SB 330 pre-application on January 28th, 2026 which vested the project based on the fees ordinances policies and standards adopted and in effect on that date.
There was a large LUDC ordinance amendment package that went into effect shortly after this date. So just take note that the analysis of this project is based on the code in place prior to that package. Additionally, the project is subject to a maximum of five hearings including continuances and hearings for appeals. And lastly, the project is using state density bonus law to increase the density allowed on the site and waive certain development standards in exchange for providing affordable units.
The State Density Bonus Law proposal includes seven deed-restricted units that will be affordable for very low income households, which provides the applicant with a 50% density bonus for the project and an unlimited number of development standard waivers. Three waivers are proposed and include a waiver of the requirement for street facing porches balconies or patios Reduced landscape buffer requirements between walkways and private yard areas.
And a minimal increase in the maximum allowed light level along a few of the property lines. State density bonus law also allows developers to use reduced on-site parking ratio requirements Pursuant to State Density Bonus Law, the county cannot require more than 110 parking spaces for this project. However, the project includes 121 spaces at individual dwelling units plus 40 visitor and day-use spaces throughout the development These requests were analyzed in detail in the staff report and were found to be consistent with state law and County Code The tentative track map includes a number of different lot types, including several common open space lots which total approximately 10.9 acres, 69 lots for residential units which are all clustered in the southern part of the map, private roads and access and utility easements North of San Antonio Creek, Lot 72 is the parcel-zoned RR5.
It will not be developed as a part of the project and it's not part of the open space calculation. The map also includes a 200 foot wide agricultural buffer along the eastern property line north of San Antonio Creek. This buffer area is required because the eastern property line in that area is adjacent to rural Ag 2 zoned property No development is proposed within the buffer except very minimal landscaping near the community pool area.
And the map is also showing the location of a 25-foot voluntary public trail easement to the county, and that is the subject of the 65402 conformity determination. Here's a closer look at the development plan area, which includes 67 new single-family and townhome units. 10.9 acres of common open space, which will include community gardens, landscape pathways, children's play areas and picnic areas.
Additionally there will be a private community pool at the northern end of the development As previously mentioned there are several existing structures Most of which will be demolished except for the two existing units in the southeast corner All structural development is located south of San Antonio Creek in an area that's bordered to the east and west by similar residential development Here are a couple example elevations out of the eight different model types just to give you an idea of what the housing will look like.
There will be 24 units that are single story and 43 units that are two-story, The maximum height of the two-story units is approximately 26 feet, which is well below the PRD zone height limit of 35 feet. The project plans are consistent with the county's objective design standards and were pre-reviewed for consistency with those standards This map shows the overlay areas that are on the project site.
There is the regulatory floodway and then the flood hazard overlay associated with San Antonio Creek shown in the two different blue colors here. Flood control has reviewed all development and drainage measures proposed with the project, and confirmed that there are no health or safety concerns. No residential structures are proposed in the floodway, and those that are within the flood hazard areas comply with the requirements of Chapter 15A which is the Floodplain Management Ordinance, and 15B which is the Development Along Watercourses Ordinance.
There is a riparian habitat buffer shown here around San Antonio Creek with the green line that extends 50 feet from the edge of riparian vegetation along San Antonio Creek. As discussed in the staff report, a portion of the community pool area will encroach and require a reduction of that riparian vegetation buffer by about 12 feet in a very limited area. The reduction of the buffer was reviewed in the biological assessment for the project and the project includes habitat restoration and enhancement along the creek as mitigation.
No structural development will encroach within the 50 foot top of bank buffer, which is shown with the red line. Lastly, there's a scenic buffer overlay which is intended to preserve views from Highway 101. That buffer extends 50 feet from the southern property line No structures will be located within the scenic buffer except for one single-story unit in the northwest corner.
Neighboring parcels include structures that are similar to the proposed unit that also encroach within the scenic buffer and And the project includes landscaping along the frontage area to screen the development from public views. The project includes a road naming request for four new private roads within the proposed track. These roads will be named Old Well Drive, Yellowtail Lane, Gopher Gulch Way and Pargo Drive.
These names are consistent with the road naming criteria in the LUDC and were cleared by several county departments to ensure that there are no duplicates of existing road names in the county. As previously mentioned, the project includes a government code conformity determination for the voluntary 25-foot wide trail easement dedication to the county. County Parks has reviewed the trail easement location and is supportive of the dedication.
The staff report analyzes the project's consistency with the comprehensive plan and County Parks will take that analysis as a consistency report to the board when the dedication is accepted. Construction of the trail is not proposed as a part of the project and any future trail development within this easement area will be constructed by the county once there is connectivity with future trail easements along the creek corridor.
And the final entitlement request is a signed certificate of conformance for two monument signs that will be located at the primary and secondary entrances to the development The signage complies with all sign standards in the LUDC including maximum sign area, number of signs, location and height. The signs will receive director level approval prior to construction and are not part of the recommended actions for the commission. They are part of this overall housing project so that's why the analysis was included in the staff report The project is consistent with the objective requirements of the county's comprehensive plan, including the Los Alamos Community Plan which envisioned clustered multifamily residential development on this property.
Although the project is entitled to density bonus for additional units it's still consistent with the community plans intended location and type of development for this site With the waivers allowed pursuant to state density bonus law, the project is also consistent with the objective LUDC requirements including the PRD zone standards for setbacks height limit open space parking and landscaping. The objective design standards for multi-unit housing The agricultural buffer requirements and the road naming criteria.
And lastly, the project is consistent with the objective subdivision regulations in Chapter 21 of the County Code. For environmental review staff relied on both the housing element programmatic EIR and the Los Alamos Community Plan EIR, both of which considered multifamily development south of the creek. In addition to demonstrating compliance with applicable policies from the Los Alamos Community Plan, the applicant also prepared all of the studies required by the Housing Element PEIR for the proposed development to ensure compliance with mitigation measures.
These studies included tree replacement and habitat restoration plans A construction traffic and management plan, a transportation demand management plan, traffic study, noise study, solid waste management plan among others. All of these studies concluded that the development would have a less than significant impact on the environment with the exception of vehicle miles traveled which I'll go into more detail about on the next slide.
Though no development is currently proposed on the RR5 lot, any future development on it would be subject to the applicable Los Alamos Community Plan policies and standards. After implementation of the PEIR mitigation measures, one significant impact will remain for vehicle miles traveled. The PEIR anticipated significant impacts related to VMT and the project will not result in an increase in the severity of those anticipated significant effects.
The project incorporates the transportation demand management measures described in Mitigation Measure T1 to reduce vehicle trips to and from the project site These measures include bike parking, pedestrian connections and a discounted public transit pass program for residents. And will result in an approximate 11% reduction in VMT. The statement of overriding considerations that the board adopted when they certified the housing element update PEIR was limited to the selected rezoned and county-owned sites.
Therefore, in order to approve this project, the Planning Commission must adopt a Statement of Overriding Considerations which is included as finding 1.4 in attachment A of the staff report. Based on this review, staff recommends that the commission follow the procedures outlined in this slide to approve the project. One, make the required findings for approval as specified in attachment A of the staff report including CEQA findings.
Two, determine the previously certified PEIR and the Los Alamos Community Plan EIR are adequate and no subsequent environmental review is required. Three, approve the track map, the development plan and the road naming requests subject to the conditions of approval in attachment B of the staff report. And four, direct staff to transmit the government code section 65402 conformity report to the real property division and the board of supervisors.
That concludes my presentation I am available for questions and we also have the applicant team available
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Okay, well I'll start with a few. First as is common in all these projects people question how did we get to that density? So the state bonus density law gives them a, because they have these seven low rent that is activated. Right? So that's how they get 46 plus 23 which is the 69 and that's determined by state law not our choice
Right, that's correct. State density bonus law does dictate that density bonus it's a certain ratio depending on how many units and what the affordability level is going to be so they're doing seven very low-income units that gets them a 50% density bonus the 50% is based on the base density so 50 percent of 46 23 like you said
okay so similarly on the parking spaces State density bonus law requires a minimum of 110 parking spaces. Is that correct?
That's the maximum that we can apply, they have certain maximum ratios it's like 1.5 spaces per unit I believe.
So we really don't have any latitude to require them to have more parking is that correct? We don't no. Okay there's that one then Looked like relatively smooth sailing through your presentation. And when I got it, initially I had looked at the flood way and the flood overlay in the Los Alamos special problems area in that I guess all of Los Alamos is low lying and kind of a riparian area. Then I look at your slide and I see these big swaths of blue Now, I know that's in the staff report says it's reviewed by county flood control and everything. And you touched on that but could you give me just in the audience a little more insight in the overall special problem zones in Los Alamos? And then the way this development is created and the accommodations and why we shouldn't be concerned about them getting flooded out
Chair Reed. So yeah, Los Alamos has the special problems area overlaid quite a bit of it and it's all related to flooding issues and this project The big chunk of it is within the flood hazard overlay Which doesn't necessarily prohibit structures from being within that area they just have to be built to meet flood control standards and And what you'll see with that is a raised foundation of two feet, so they are going to have to meet that within the flood hazard area.
That's all stipulated in Flood Controls Condition Letter and has been reviewed by them. The only structures and development that's within the actual floodway are non-residential structures. It's for their community pool area and the structures associated with that, so nobody is going to be living in the structures that are in the floodway and they will have to be designed to meet FEMA requirements in that area
Okay, so with respect to that did flood controls analysis we always talk about things like 50 year floods hundred-year floods the level of water rise were all those taken into account in making those evaluations and judgments?
Chair Reed, yes. They had to produce a no rise analysis for this project that essentially confirms that there will be no rise in the flood level during 100-year storm. That's my understanding.
All right. Road naming, they're all compliant although I find couple of them funny but... Yeah, go for Gulch Way. But then the trail easement, the 25-foot wide trail easement, does it currently align with any existing county trails or planned county trails?
Chair Reed, it is not. There however is a policy in the Los Alamos community plan that encourages county parks to establish a PRT which is Parks Recreation and Trail line in that area so this does push them closer to meeting that goal and parks was happy that the applicant was willing to provide this.
All right And as far as ag buffers, we did so much work with ag buffers on the AEO and things. So the Ag Commissioner is confident that that 200-foot buffer will satisfy all the neighbors.
Chair Reed, yes we worked very closely with the Ag Commissioner's office to review that ag buffer. It's in a good location in terms of wind direction and all the development is you know outside of that and south of it so it was agreeable to the Ag Commissioner's office.
All right then I'd like to look at the VMT, the vehicle miles traveled You know, County Threshold 14.8 has anticipated this project. Average vehicle mile traveled per resident will be almost 40 miles a day. Now is that a product that we expect them to be driving enthusiasts or we expect it more likely they're going to be commuting to a job? They're not being a tremendous amount of employment in Los Alamos. What's behind that estimate?
Chair Reed. Yeah, that's all in the transportation study. I do believe it accounts for some commuting so okay you know the workplaces within the area
yeah Chair Reed, members of the commission. It's largely driven by the rural nature of Los Alamos and frankly it's a reality in much of North County that you know the county average is most properties in the north county are coming in above that just because of so many commuters to different work sites.
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I'd like also to look at one of the findings we're going to need to make is finding 2.1.5. That's the finding on the proposed project will not be detrimental to comfort, convenience, general welfare health, safety of the neighborhood and will not be incompatible Which incompatibility is a pretty common objection we see on most of these projects. But if you look at the body of that, and this finding isn't it correct it was vetted through county council?
That's
correct. In that you find this finding as subjective and cannot be used as a means to deny the project pursuant to the Housing Accountability Act
Chair Reed, yes. The language in that finding is subjective. There's no objective parts to it. We did respond you know to how it is compatible but it cannot be used as a means to deny
the finding that I don't like it does not and then when you're looking at Los Alamos it's quite a diverse variety of architectural styles and constructions. I think it's kind of hard to determine what fits and what doesn't. Are the streets around this? Is it legal parking on all of the surrounding streets 24 hours a day? There is no parking requirements or anything like that, no overnight parking.
Chair Reed, are you speaking about roads outside of the development or within? Yeah, so Frontage Road and Price Ranch Road. I do believe those are open to street parking. I don't imagine that most residents would find that ideal to walk outside of the development. I
saw it was dirt and some people had pretty random parking patterns, so to speak. Then finally, the Statement of Overriding Considerations. It's in your staff report. Page A-5. The project's social and economic benefits outweigh its significance and unavoidable impact. Obviously increasing the supply of housing in the community of Los Alamos including the seven very low income deed restricted units The voluntary public trail easement, et cetera.
OK and that's we need to make that finding that that's true right? And that's OK. OK great all right those are at the moment those are my questions any questions from other commissioners Commissioner Park
yes
I want to work through the parking a little bit because one of the neighbors has raised that issue. Then, I also want to get back to slide 17 on the VMTs so let's take parking first. It is 67 new units but there are two existing right? So the two existing, they must have parking right now. Is their parking that they have right now included in the calculation of 121 parking spaces for the project or is that supplemental to it?
Commissioner Park through the chair I do believe it's included in the calculation
Okay, I don't think it matters that much. It's just for my sake of going through numbers it could make a difference but bear with me. So 69 units limited to or limited to a maximum of 110 is that right? 110 seems more than one and a half times 69 to me Does that 110 include the amenity spaces or something? We are through the garages and adjoining spaces for the units.
Another 32 for the guest parking, and I think it's eight more for amenity parking so it's 161 spaces. And so that's almost two-and-a-half spaces per unit as opposed to a state limiting us to requiring one-and-a half spaces per unit. Okay, so I understand this correctly. Good. Let's move on to VMT okay and that's your slide
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17?
And you know what it is it's that for four bedroom units you can have two and a half spaces by state law. That's
why we got up to 110.
Exactly.
But we're still way over par compared to a state requirement. On VMTs, you might remember I made a brief presentation on this program that Riverside County has for mitigating VMTs through a bank and getting funds into affordable housing. And I made the comment that VMTs are something we don't often understand very well. Almost every project we get generates a lot of VMTs and we don't know how to mitigate them, and we wind up issuing a statement of overriding considerations.
That's what this looks like to me. We're 14.8 is the threshold so if we're up to 39.7 we would hope to mitigate it down to 14.80 if possible right?
If possible, yeah.
But it never is possible even with all these kind of programs here's the bike parking, the bus passes things like that we're able to knock off four and a half VMT and then we are going to issue a statement overriding considerations for all the rest right? Okay Well, again I understand this. I'm going to comment on it when we get to deliberations. I don't want the applicants to be scared of my comments because Santa Barbara County does not have a program like Riverside County has for that would allow you to do a full mitigation. We should and I'll comment on it but we don't have one yet so don't worry about what I'm gonna vote all
right. If there are no more questions from commissioners We can go to the applicant's presentation.
Good morning Chair and Commissioners, first of all congratulations Commissioner Cooney on your retirement. And I also want to thank staff for their collaboration throughout this review process. You have been professional and exceptional in your communication, in your time and being available for meetings. And I really appreciate your abilities and your excellent staff report and PC packet.
So with that, we're happy to be here today to go over the project with you. I'm joined by my project team, the property owner Tyler Ramison, our architects from Kevin Moore Architects, Kevin Moore and Jennifer McIsaac, Robert Schmidt, our civil engineer is online. And Waters Cardenas is our land surveyor who prepared our tract map. Justine Cooper, our biologist, is also online if we have any questions for her.
As staff reviewed, and I don't want to reiterate too much the various types of application packages before you today. The project development standards, the objective design standards etc., we feel like the project is consistent and has been determined to be consistent with general plan policies in the zoning ordinance. The draft conditions are acceptable to us and we believe the required findings can be made for project approval.
The project has some great community benefits as was touched on respect to the creek buffer and setbacks, enhanced native plantings. The fact that there's no native tree removals proposed and a sustainable approach to the project itself. The dedication of the trail easement, the large open space that is provided. The amenities of the project, community gardens, the parking and a variety of housing types and styles that are provided. And I did want to note as mentioned in the staff report that while this is designated as a rental project because it is a tract map it's not going to preclude for sale of any of these lots in the future with the exception of the seven deed restricted units.
With that, I want to introduce our property owner.
Thank you Heidi and thank you commissioners and chairman for allowing me to present the project. Very excited and proud of it and before I start also want to thank staff. It's been a years-long process that they've worked tremendously hard on along with my team So just want to thank everybody for the hard work before I start. You know, I want to tell you a little bit about myself, how I ended up here before you telling you about the project.
I'm not a big time developer from Orange County. I am a local kid. That's me on the right there. I don't know, five years old on Halama Road. And then that's me about when I was about 22 also on Halama Road growing some pumpkins. So I grew up not far from the project site. I took the school bus from Fox and Canyon Road to Los Olivos Elementary School. Later on I moved to Lompoc. Went to Cabrillo High School.
I graduated from UCSB. And after trying my hand at growing some pumpkins, I realized that would never be able to afford a home here. And I went off to graduate school and went to MIT in Boston. I graduated from there still realize I couldn't move back to Santa Barbara. I need to go somewhere more affordable so I moved to Manhattan And I started working on Wall Street and I worked there for many years until I could finally afford to move home.
So my wife and I, we moved home and we started a family of five kids, a few of them at MUS, San Marcos, DP. And so, you know Santa Barbara County is my home. I started a business here when I moved back and I realized how hard it was to get young people to come to work in Santa Barbara. First of all it's very expensive no one can really afford to live here and when they get here they realize that there's no other young people because no one can afford no one young can afford to live here So what I, you know, I realized firsthand like how important housing is and providing housing to lower the cost of living here. That's, you know, I've lived a lot of places and, you know, I think Santa Barbara County is the best in my degrees in economics and I know that the best way To lower the price is to increase the supply.
So I decided if it wasn't me, who was going to do it? So I found this property in Los Alamos zoned for what I'm trying to do bring housing We got started. I just hope you like the project as much as I do and that we can do our part so that the next generation doesn't have to move halfway across the country to be able to afford
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Thank you members of the commission for seeing us today and reviewing our project. My name is Kevin Moore, I'm architect for the owner and to his credit Tyler challenged us to think outside the normal development strategies for a project like this His priority is to create a community that offers a high quality of life and more sustainable approach to development This project proposes homes organized around shared open spaces rather than streets, creating a neighborhood designed for people, landscape and community interaction.
Thanks to our project team for all your hard work and what we're here to review today. So you can see our... It's really hard to see. Well, at any rate you can see the light green area indicates our project and what's interesting about this slide is that it really reveals the footprint of the development which you can see the little houses and roads relative to the open space that's being preserved as a part of this project.
So most residential developments, as you see across the freeway, prioritize the car. The houses are large. They fill up the site. There's very little common open space and what there is is very fragmented and generally inconsequential. Adjacent to the site we have the mobile home park to the left and then Price Ranch Road on the right Along Price Ranch Road, there's a collection of different housing styles and massing.
The newer houses are two stories and have kind of a ranch vernacular to them. So our project is structured around a series of interconnected open spaces. Those key principles include homes that front onto shared greens, landscape areas and common amenities. Streets are secondary, garages are located behind the units to minimize visual impact. Pedestrian pathways wind through and connect the pockets to the larger neighborhood.
Small clusters of homes create identifiable pocket neighborhoods within the larger neighborhood. As we zoom in, into one of these areas you can see how the central green spaces become those pockets and they're ringed by those individual units. And each of those units has a porch on the front that looks out onto that shared community open space. Again, each of those open spaces are connected by pathways.
That the residents can wander through the neighborhood and experience all of those different little nodes. The benefits to the residents is that pedestrian spaces are prioritized, creating a safer and more comfortable environment. Front doors and porches face those open spaces and encourage neighbor interaction and they create larger landscape areas for that provide gathering space, recreation areas and outdoor amenities.
The rear-loaded garages allow architecture and landscape to define the neighborhood rather than driveways and garages. In addition to the residential benefits, the project provides meaningful public benefits to the surrounding community. The project adds 67 new homes to the community. Smaller homes and compact clustering allow the site to support more landscape and open space, while still providing needing housing.
The community is invited in to enjoy the pathways and re-establish creek bank. The efficient neighborhood design helps accommodate growth within the community. This design preserves the creek and removes significant area from development. Project reduces paved surfaces and increases landscape contributing to reduce stormwater runoff, increase tree canopy, lower urban heat island effects and greater permeable surface area.
There's a couple more areas zoomed in throughout the project. There's the pool area along the creek and the restoration that's happening along the creek is really important to this project. I also wanted to talk about the neighborhood edges. So this project minimizes the garage-dominated streetscapes and instead presents continuous landscaped edges that improve the public environment experienced by neighbors and those passing by.
And, you know, this is a rendering that we produced of one of the little pockets within that project. And you can see how it really just creates an intimate space that becomes, you know, the occupants that live in these homes. It becomes theirs and they take ownership of it. They have porches that face out to it so it becomes a really community benefit for them and I think a really nice place to be.
This is a rendering of one of the common open spaces. This one happens to have some garden boxes in it, so residents will be able to use those and little shed there for tools. All this is contributing to that overall community feel. Here's another rendering of another one of those pockets. So you can see the porches face out to those Then we'll just quickly scroll through some of the elevations of the different unit types.
Again, as staff mentioned, we're well under the height threshold. 25 foot 6 is our max ridge height. It's important to note that Typically, the elevation that's going to present itself to the open space and to the streetways is the narrowest elevation. So you won't be experiencing large massing. This is just some more detailed information about that pool area.
There's a pool house with it for restrooms and showers. And then in closing, I'd just like to add that the project demonstrates that this is an innovative approach to neighborhood design that prioritizes people, landscape and community interaction. The project demonstrates how needed housing can be delivered in a way that creates a higher quality living environment that benefits both residents and the surrounding community.
And I'll leave it there.
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Um, You know, for me on the Planning Commission we get a lot of housing cases and we have overwhelming number of new state laws and we face our RINA goals so we're always thinking about housing. And that's why I think about the project before me but I think about what can I learn to help with the overall process? So that's my question. So I want to give you a compliment first to kind of pay you for answering my question and that is I think your design fits Los Alamos just perfectly, and I'll discuss in deliberation some other great things I think about this project. But it makes me think a lot of other projects that are roughly this size, developers wouldn't have done a project like this. They'd have 10 luxury homes Okay, and they'd you know sell them for two million a piece instead of three and they call it affordable by design.
But this looks like it really is affordable by design and I would presume there was some intentionality to that and I wonder if you could tell us in your process of designing this what did you think of in terms of making it affordable by design?
Certainly, Commissioner Park. Absolutely. That was absolutely Tyler's intent as he communicated earlier that these units needed to be done in such a way that they could be priced affordably and constructed in an affordable way. As you know construction is incredibly expensive right now. What we've done is try to reduce the footprint of the homes, so they're not particularly large at all. So if we can make them smaller once you spread that over the number of homes envisioned that cost can be brought down.
So it's really creating smaller units keeping their footprint compact as a whole and Generally trying to accommodate less living space within the units themselves and try to make them as efficient as possible while providing everything that everybody needs today.
Thank you. I have a question. There's kind of a clustered village sort of design concept, where did that come from?
So it began in the northwest there was an architect in Oregon in the early 60s who developed that term pocket neighborhood and the vision was to As I stated to reverse the typical situation where you have, you drive up your home. There's a two-car garage that presents itself and that's really what you see an experience in the neighborhood. And so the intent of this design concept is to flip that, push the cars to the rear, emphasize the architecture in the home instead of the car experience.
Okay, well I like this because it seems to you know we so often look at projects that are affordable or higher density and you have essentially a bunch of boxes with doors in them. And I think I look at these these renderings do you have here? I often look, what if you're a child, a kid growing up in a place like that? Well your home is oh it's that box over there. It's this door and this number whereas this affords every kid would like to well that's my house or their house and it just seems have a great sense of community and open spaces that are so often I would say in this county almost totally lacking And a lot of the projects we look at, so I think these renderings are very important in promoting your concept of the design of this community and affording that.
Yeah it could well be a model for others. I particularly like the open spaces with the potential of the community garden and those sort of things. So hopefully that's intended to be part of the final project
It is. And all credit to Tyler for pushing for something unique.
Well, people and kids need places to learn how to grow things and learn where food and plants and other things come from. So I would applaud that. Thank you. Commissioner Ford?
Thank you so much. Having left Santa Barbara three times as an educator because I could not afford to live here, I really appreciate the concept and the dedication to this idea. I wonder if you have yet done any work or study on the impact it will have on the Los Alamos School District?
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Commissioner, Heidi Jones again. I think my adrenaline spike has gone down Yes, I did reach out and meet with the Orchid Union School District They are actively studying not only our project but two other projects in the area and their time frames to make sure that they can absorb them And have the capacity and it's my understanding that right now there have a low capacity So actually having more kids come will be a benefit to them.
Low enrollment.
Exactly yes So I haven't heard back yet about, you know any feedback necessarily for our project but I have reached out to them and coordinated with them.
There is declining enrollment everywhere in the state for obvious reasons. The other question I had was that in terms of the mitigation of the car traffic, et cetera and just the popularity now bicycles it looks to me like they're just four bike parking spaces. Just wonder if there would be some thought about adding like some near the pool
Yeah, but we have a mix of guest bicycle parking and project bicycle parking.
Oh you do? Long term and
short term
spaces. I apologize it's just hard for me to see it. Sure. I only saw where it was indicated once but it's all throughout the project?
There's one space for every two dwelling units of bicycle parking. Could
you say that again? One
space provided at each new dwelling unit, four spaces for bike parking at the community swimming pool, 14 at other on-site community amenities such as the gardens, play areas and picnic areas.
Okay yeah there's a variety of amenities throughout the site including fire pits, children's play areas, the gardens you saw and there's bike parking at each one of them so it's scattered throughout the site. Thanks
and when you say there's one for each did you say residents? So where would it be located is it on?
Yeah there's also bike parking on the private lot of each resident okay yeah great thank you
Well excuse me, each residence has a garage doesn't it?
Each house or some of them are townhomes. Okay. Each of them has a garage some of the town homes have a two-car garage and each I would say probably 85% have a gravel parking spot on their private lot There is an outdoor covered parking spot as well.
Questions from commissioners? We will go to public comment. I have one in-person slip. It's from Neil Goodman. You'll have three minutes. Yeah.
OK, I'll talk fast. I live on 360 Price Ranch Road, so I'm a resident. We bought the house in 2008. I do have a question about price ranch road it's got 20 this is for the architect tell me about how that's going to work the width of it and whether there's curb parking as I mentioned in the letter that the residents who live on Price Ranch Road can use that kind of You know, I bought the house with the idea that there was a planned residential development My idea about what was possible so I understand listening to the planning commission how state mandate has superseded that.
CBAR and so forth that the issue has been density, and all my neighbors are in accordance that this project is way too thick for the amount of space allocated. And also the other question if you read the letter that I submitted is also that if you're coming off Highway 101 I'm not quite sure that that's a very copacetic kind of How that's going to work when you enter the development.
And, you know, I mean that's a pretty fast overpass and it's had a lot of issues over time and I hope that there is a study or some kind of revision that will make that safe. So, I've pretty much used up my time. I am concerned about... The other thought is There's been no public presentation about this project to the community of Los Alamos at large, and it would be great for Tyler if this is such a wonderful plan to get a larger input because this project is going to impact not only us as residents but it's going to impact the community of Los Alamos. And we are a community and we really see each other as you know, a place where we really do discuss things that come up. And I know that whatever is going to happen with this project it's probably already superseded any necessity for a community forum but I think that would be really important to hear what residents have to say because we're the ones who are going to be living there and have invested our lives there or livelihood And for the most part, there's been absolutely you know we got a letter two weeks ago or week and half ago about the project.
I'm the only resident that was able to actually come because everybody else works and everybody else in the community is absolutely Zipple knowledge about what's going on and I think it's important to have a like with any kind of thing that that Impacts a lot of people in the future. I think it's important for Some kind of forum or some kind of more public venue To discuss the impact not only for for me, but for the community at large Okay, so that's pretty much it. That's my three minutes.
Okay. Thank you.
Okay
now it would be time for Response from applicant, I got a question or two for staff first. When did that? When I drove around there yesterday, I noticed it was the regular county noticing sign. How long has that been posted?
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Chair Reed, that has been posted the requirement it got posted about two weeks ago. It's a minimum of 10 days posting there also is two mailed noticings that go out one was done when the application was deemed complete that was I can find yeah about a year ago and then ten days prior to the hearing another noticing goes out in the mail
Okay, and just one more question. This is a Public Works question I don't expect you'll have the answer but first Is Los Alamos one of the EJ communities? Environmental Justice Communities was it? No okay I just I just wonder because I know as part of their initiatives were curb and gutter work for streets and those sorts of things I just wonder if there are any Goals or development plan with public works on improving Price Ranch Road, do you know of anything? That's probably outside of your scope I'm sure.
Chair Reed, well this project does have improvements proposed along Frontage Road and Price Ranch Road. And I think the applicant could probably speak to it a little more in detail but I believe Price Ranch Road is going to be widened onto their property that they own so it's gonna have improvements sidewalk along Frontage Road so good pedestrian connections outside of the development And then also the traffic study, it talks about the Highway 101 off-ramps and safety for that. Caltrans did review that traffic study and had no comments or required improvements.
It is a little challenging you know yeah on and off okay I will with that give applicant their chance to reply
Yes, Chair Reed as staff mentioned we do have public improvements along Frontage Road and Price Ranch Road in terms of sidewalks and or parkways. You know for pedestrian access and the road widening there is no project parking proposed on either of those streets our project parking is provided onsite.
All right. Thank you. With that, we'll conclude the public portion and we will invite deliberations. Any commissioners would like to begin?
Commissioner Park. I think Mr. Ramerson should be proud of this project, it goes in the right place in Los Alamos. Los Alamos is becoming a community that is kind of in the middle of the county But it's got some high-end housing and some very low-end housing, and not much in between. And the low end is at one end of the town, and the high end is at the other end of the town, and it's just not healthy.
I'm not criticizing Los Alamos. I like Los Alamos. It used to be my district. Nevertheless, I think this will improve that. This will provide a lot of housing, and it'll be a lovely place for people to live that aren't going to be able to afford high-end housing and may not want it. They might prefer this. I do think that we should talk about VMTs with this as an example. Because if you were in Western Riverside County, they wouldn't give you a pass on the VMT because for lack of mitigation programs and not criticizing your efforts to mitigate because you're doing what everybody would do but it just only mitigates so much.
A good program would have you pay in to a bank, so to speak or an exchange. And then those mitigation credits would help fund other projects and in that county for example that includes affordable housing projects in the right places which they think actually mitigates BMTs if you put them in the right place. If we had a program like this I wouldn't vote for your project unless Barbara County Planning Commission meeting
I do like the renditions of what's going on up there. With all the limitations on HOAs and stuff, I really don't know how you're going to be maintaining that stuff out there. That's one thing that I didn't see being presented in regards to those things with the limitations popped by the recent propositions but that's not the issue before us. I do have the concerns regarding parking. I don't believe in 1.5 or 1.7. You don't have one half of a car or 0.75 of a car But again, these state laws are coming down and this restricts the hands. And I'm saying that to the Los Alamos residents in regards to there's compliance is compliance and you know that's the square we're in but the efforts in regards I didn't hear what affordable housing is in regards to price-wise and I don't think that's really in front of us because I think the term affordable housing is a very, I would say probably subjective but I'm not against the project.
It just brings out issues that I have in mind regarding the laws that we're dealing with right now. Thank you
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Ford.
Thank you for both presentations that were extensive, comprehensive, really interesting. I love this project. I think it has excellent focus on community building and having lived in many apartments over my career and lifetime, I can just say that the way that they face each other and the addition of all of the amenities I think are going to be so appealing to so many people in this county It's very attractive and to me, extensive efforts notwithstanding Commissioner Park's comments but extensive efforts to mitigate some of the negativity especially with traffic.
I support this too.
I look at this project. Los Alamos is kind of a community in transition, you know? 20 years ago it was a little kind of cowboy relatively affordable place but no more. There are some places on the low end most other housing there if you look at prices even older things are very high and then new developments while very attractive the single-family things are very high This really fits a need for the community. I'm really impressed with the village design instead of, as I said before, the mainly cuboidal sorts of grouped clustered structures we most often see. This, I think would have a real sense of community for the people who live there I think it could be a real asset to the county and perhaps a model of others.
With respect to the impacts on neighbors, I realize it's going to be hard to give up essentially a large open space that you've enjoyed since you moved in until in 2008 but like the rest of California and the rest of the county we're We're subject to change. Some of the change were subject to we don't have a great deal of latitude in modifying and I think this will prove to be a a very attractive and beneficial project, particularly with reference to the potential sorts of developments that could come in.
We're not this one given a chance to proceed so I just think it'll be of great benefit. I applaud the design, the concessions in terms of the dedication of the path, the remaining open space. So what I would like to do is forward a motion to approve it, to take the recommended actions given on page 18 of the staff report. Need I read those?
You can just refer to them.
I can just reverse them, refer to them. I'll refer to them that we adopt a statement of overriding considerations since I think this is the case where that is clearly in effect so I would again like to make that motion do we have a second?
Second.
We have a motion and a second. So all in favor of Mr. Villalobos, could you please do a roll call?
Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 motion and a second. So all in favor of Mr. Villalobos, could you please do a roll call?
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Motion passes five to zero
Chair Reed, there's a comment I forgot to make. I'd like to make it. Now we'll accommodate you go ahead Commissioner Park. I think Mr. Goodman had a good idea about a community forum and I think that's just always useful at any stage and I think that you should talk to the applicant about it and then you should both talk to Supervisor Nielsen's office and they can help you coordinate that if you all think it's a good idea. They didn't mean to ignore that. It was a good
With our business concluded, a meeting hearing will now be adjourned. We will return on May 6th. Thank you.