BodyBoard of Directors
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 March 19, 2026

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role9:41

Yep, yes ma'am. Good afternoon everybody I'd like to call to order the March 19th 2026 meeting of the Santa Barbara County Air Pollution Control District Board of Directors can we get a roll call please?

Roll call — called by Unidentified speaker 2
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Director Lee here. Director Caps here. Director Hartman here. Director Nelson here. Director Silva here. Director Clark here. Thank you. Director Parodi here. Director Julian here. Director Mosby? Here. Director Rouse? Here.
UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed10:15

Director Patino? It's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed10:18

Aguilar-Hernandez,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed10:20

stepping in

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed10:20

for Patino.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed10:21

Thank you very much. Thank you. Director Brown?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role10:24

Here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed10:25

And Chair Lavagnino?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role10:27

I'm here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed10:27

We have a quorum.

Pledge of Allegianceceremonial · click to expand
UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role10:28

Okay at this time please stand and join the Board Pledge of Allegiance

UnidentifiedClerkProposed · by role10:35

Okay.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role10:50

First item of business today will be closed session. Can the clerk please read the item into the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed10:57

record?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role10:59

By the way, David's got this microphone so messed up nobody can use it now.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed11:06

Closed session item C1, Conference with Labor Negotiators Government Code section 54957.6 District Designated Representative Erin Arlen Janay Employee Organizations Engineering and Technicians Associations Service Employee International Union Local 620 And Unrepresented Employees Management and Confidential

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role11:29

Okay we're now going to adjourn the closed session we'll be back in a few minutes Good enough. All right, we're now going to reconvene from closed session. Ms. Richardson can you please report out?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed37:35

Good afternoon. In closed session today, the board conducted a conference with labor negotiators under government code section 54957.6 with the district designated representative Erin Arlen Janay. The involved employee organizations are the Engineer and Technicians Association Service Employee International Union Local 620 and Unrepresented Employees Management and Confidential. The board took no reportable action.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role38:01

All right, thank you very much.

Next item of business will be the approval of the minutes for January 15th, 2026 meeting.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed38:07

Hartman moves to approve.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role38:08

I'll

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed38:08

second.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role38:09

Moved and seconded. Madam Clerk can we get a roll call please?

Roll-call vote Passed 8–0 Moved and seconded. Madam Clerk can we get a roll call
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Director Lee. Aye. Director Hartman. Aye. Director Silva. Aye Director Clark. Abstain. Director Parodi. Oh aye. Thank you. Director Julian. Aye Director Mosby. Aye. Director Rouse? Abstain. Director Aguilera-Hernandez? Abstain. Director Brown? Aye. And Chair Lavagnino? Aye.
UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed38:45

Motion passes 8-3.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role38:46

Okay, next item up is Approval of Administrative Items. Does any board member wish to pull any of the items on the agenda? Anybody in Santa Maria?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed38:59

No.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role38:59

Okay. Seeing none, is there any request from the public to pull any items?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed39:04

Chair Lavanino, members of the board we did not receive any public requests to pull any of the admin items.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role39:09

Okay so I can get a motion and second for the administrative agenda. I'll move to approve.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed39:13

Hartman seconds.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role39:15

Moved and seconded by whoever you want to pick their let's go for a roll call.

Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 Moved and seconded by whoever you want to pick their let's go for a roll call.
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Director Lee. Aye. Director Hartman. Aye. Director Silva. Aye Director Clark. Aye Director Parodi. Aye
UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed39:29

All right,

next item of business

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed39:32

is

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed39:33

the Director's Report. Ms. Arlen Janae can you give a report to the board please? Good afternoon first off I'd like to start with recognizing

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed39:53

Director Silva on his governor appointment to the California Air Resources Board. He's one of 16 board members, 12 of which have been appointed by the governor. Of those appointees six represent local air district boards. He is the only CARB board member who represents medium-sized air districts a very important role to ensure issues and impacts that face our region are part of the discussion when developing statewide policies on air quality I look forward to working with you as you serve on the State Air Quality and Climate Change Board, and congratulations.

All right, I have more.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role40:38

Oh there's more? You were just lead off.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed40:40

Yeah you are. Stick with the CARB theme. CARB last November their board approved changes to their landfill methane gas regulation to enhance methane leak detections including the use of new satellite remote detection of emission plumes they are requiring quicker leak repairs and improved monitoring and reporting This regulation was originally approved by the board in 2010 and the district implements their requirements through an MOU with the state.

We have three active landfills that are covered by the regulation, Tejiguas, Lompoc, and Santa Maria. We are currently or CARB staff is currently working on a 15-day package to provide some more clarification in the regulation and that document is expected to be released later this month. My staff and I have been working with CARB to ensure changes of the regulation are aligned with federal requirements, that air districts are promptly notified when a satellite detects a plume in our jurisdiction and that district workload is assessed. After the 15-day comment period the regulation will take effect January 2027 so we'll be sure to work with all of the local landfills To ensure they're aware of the upcoming changes to the regulation.

The next item is Blue Wells, Blue Skies. Since the passage of Assemblymember Hart's AB14, the Blue Wells, Blue Sky Partnership has been working on the statewide expansion of the program. We're excited that the California Ocean Protection Council is now a new state partner with us on that. As you know this program is a voluntary program where ships slow down to 10 knots It reduces both air pollution and fatal ship strikes on wells.

I've pulled together a group of coastal air districts that have been meeting regularly to bring all of those up to speed, and so far we've secured official participation from northern Sonoma and San Diego Air Districts who weren't involved in the program in the past. We have three more we're working on and we hope to get them officially signed on soon. Along with our partners at NOAA and the California Marine Sanctuaries Foundation, we've been working to refine the statewide boundaries and the zone where we can further protect well activity and improve air quality. We've conducted surveys and met with association that represent the vessel operators on our efforts to expand this program statewide.

On Thursday, the 12th of March, an official notice was distributed to all vessel participants detailing our approach with the statewide expansion and the period of time the program will run. It will go April 22nd through December 31st On April 22nd, which is Earth Day we're holding an event at Scott's in Jack Linden Square in Oakland to celebrate the passage of AB 14. Assemblymember Hart will be there with us as well and we'll also kick off our Blue Whales Blue Skies program and hold an award ceremony to recognize the successful participants from 2025. I'd like to invite any of you who are interested in joining me up at this event It's a great fun way to celebrate Earth Day, which I know you're all excited to do. All right we'll be back in May with your with a more expanded overview to your board on this program and then the last item a clean air room purifier program I'm happy to share two different programs that have been extremely successful recently.

The first is Guadalupe. We started in 2021 with a pilot project for Guadalupe and Cazmelia. This, we were able to give away almost 800 purifiers to help residents keep their indoor air quality clean especially during wildfires. Last year your board approved additional clean air room programs for the City of Guadalupe and the Old Town Goleta residents. Both communities are considered underserved by the state's CalEnviroScreen, and this is a tool we use to focus our resources on areas in the county most in need.

This year's Guadalupe program started in January and was extremely successful. We previously had in-person event in Guadaluable but decided to take a different approach And we worked with the vendor to have them drop ship the purifiers directly to the residents who live within that area. We had an online form and it, we also required proof of residency. Our staff then confirmed that and in batches we worked with Winnex. That's the company that we are using currently on these air purifiers and then they were able to mail them directly too. The individuals are bilingual outreach for Guadalupe included handing out flyers at the food bank distribution.

I got to tell you that seems to be one of the most effective ways for us to get into the community, increase our recognition and also help with the food distribution. So that was a very much a win-win. We placed flyers in the city's utility bills, Mayor Julian provided remarks to the City Council meeting and then we worked with the Dune Center on social media posts.

The Housing Authority of Santa Barbara County has been an integral partner in this program and we provided purifiers to the Escalante Meadows residents in Guadalupe as well as other locations that they recommended We received hundreds of requests for these purifiers and it was a first-come, first-served basis and one per residence. Due to popularity the program has been closed. It closed actually this week with the Hasbarco units and our dropship orders we've distributed approximately eight seven hundred air purifiers to the Guadalupe residents Now I'd like to share briefly about the second program. It's the Old Town Goleta Program, which I have a few slides for.

Thank you. It was very successful event on Saturday. We distributed four... You can go to the next slide. We distributed 400 air purifiers between 9 and 1. Actually they came even a little early, I think it was like 8 o'clock, 830 and one. And in addition to the air purifier giveaway we partnered with C5 and we were able to have an electric vehicle test drive.

The event In addition to the test drive, we also had representatives from Driving Clean Assistance Program. It's providing incentives currently to low-income individuals on electric vehicle purchase. They were anticipating roughly 20 test drives. We hit that and even more. We got 52 test drives in that day so it was It was very successful. I got to say, in talking with all the staff that were able to participate in this, this is one of our most successful events that we've been able to pull off to date.

You didn't even look at your watch and figure out how much longer do I have to be at this table? You were moving! And the recognition that we have as far as who we are what we do and the importance of protecting your family during wildfires was very successful. Hartman, the amount of touch points that we had here is much higher than the number we get at any like Earth Day event that we've participated in in the past. So it was a definitely win-win for us I want to thank both Director Pierotti and Director Hartman for joining in that fun yeah you can click through those I wasn't even thinking about moving on to slides well there you are I didn't know who was clicking them I was looking at her. So we do after the 400, we have additional purifiers that are first come first serve and we're doing the drop ship option for those but I just got to say these two events show the need of conducting such event countywide and our next focus for a clean air room program will be in Cuyama.

There's one more so that is the last slide there yeah I love it. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role49:11

Awesome. Director Hartman.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed49:14

Well, congratulations to the staff who worked so hard on that. They started with a postcard and then people came and redeemed their postcard for the purifier but they had a food truck. They had a number of tables and it really was the most successful event reaching out to hard-to-reach Constituents that I've ever seen and I think we, this is another issue but we have a real question about how we're going to keep people eligible for Medi-Cal enroll. And so there may be opportunities in the future to wrap this up together where we can reach out to people even more broadly.

So just want to put that out there as a thought. Thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role50:04

Anything from Santa Maria? No, thank you. All right.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed50:11

And if I may, and music.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role50:15

Oh it was there okay. Yes okay outstanding any public comment on the director's report?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed50:22

We did not receive any public comment on the director's report.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role50:24

Alright so that moves us on to G which is public comment now it's time for members of the public speak on items that are not on today's agenda Did we receive any requests to speak?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed50:35

Chair Lavagnino, members of the board. We did receive one speaker slip from Simon Vandenberg

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role50:42

Okay Come on up You're the next contestant you have three minutes Good afternoon.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed50:50

Good afternoon chair members of the board My name is Simon van den Burg I'm CEO of Amfinity Group We manufacture the Infinity Carbon Scrubber System. Approximately 250 units are deployed across seven cannabis greenhouse operations in the Carpentria Valley. I'm here because our work in Carpentria over the past five years has produced what we believe is the most comprehensive body of air quality and odor control data generated for a cannabis greenhouse environment.

We would like your agency and any other decision makers to have the full benefit of it We have reviewed the APCD and OEHHA memos regarding PCO technology, and wanted to address those concerns directly. Over four years of continuous field deployment have added durability data to influence an early testing unit above 90% efficiency after a full year without maintenance.

We've also generated data on our systems Multistage carbon and PCO systems interact to manage peak loads, extend carbon life and contains secondary oxidation byproducts within the system before release. And have the results to prove our technology is safe for plants and most importantly for people. Collectively this work has advanced knowledge regarding the behavior of terpenes solvers and other odor causing components in the greenhouse. The long-term performance of odor control technology under sustained odor caused compound loads and the tradeoff between system architectures in commercial cannabis environments.

We'd welcome the opportunity to share this data with APCD or other county staff in whatever format is most useful. David Harris has connected us with OEHHA staff, I look forward to working with them to alleviate any concerns regarding our technology. Thank you for your time.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role52:58

Thank you. Are there any other requests to speak?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed53:05

No additional requests to speak.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role53:07

Thank you for being here today. OK, is there anybody in Santa Maria? Public comment?

UnidentifiedClerkProposed · by role53:16

No, thank you.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role53:20

So we don't normally comment on public comments, so thank you for the comment. Appreciate it. I know that item is being worked and of great importance to a lot of us up here. So we're going to move on to discussion item H1. Clerk could you please read that into the record?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed53:34

Certainly. Discussion Item H1 Climate Heat Impact Response Program or CHRP. Consider recommendations as follows. One, receive and file a presentation on the Climate Heat Impact Response Program, CHRP. And two, adopt a resolution to authorize the district's participation in implementing California Air Resources Board CHRP, which includes a delegate authority to the district's air pollution control officer to enter into grant agreements with CARB for the CHRP program substantially similar to the sample grant agreement included as attachment B of the CHRP board letter. In order to participate in fiscal year 2025-2026 and in future years for amounts not to exceed $2 million, subject to review and approval by District Council Auditor Controller and Risk Management.

B, delegate authority to the Air Pollution Control Officer to make or accept minor amendments to the grant agreement in future years subject to review and approval by District Council Auditor Controller and Risk Management. And C, approving the allocation of $400,000 from the district's Clean Air Fund in fiscal year 2026-2027 to provide additional funding for the CHRP program.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role54:52

Okay thank you very much. All

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed54:53

right today we have Mike McKay an air quality specialist soon to be the supervisor of our planning division

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role55:02

Got me worried there for a second that year. I

UnidentifiedClerkProposed · by role55:05

only got up one step, so don't

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role55:06

worry about it. Yeah okay take it away. All

UnidentifiedClerkProposed · by role55:09

right so good afternoon Chair Labadino and members of the board this is the brief presentation on the district's new grant program called CHRP which is the Climate Heat Impact Response Program. I'll be using the word CHRP multiple times in this short presentation so please bear with me. So we can all probably recall some part of the heat events in the summers of 21 and 22, with all-time record temperatures being set in many areas of California that did not necessarily discriminate based on geography.

These events put significant demands on the state's energy grid. On July 30th, 2021, Governor Newsom proclaimed a state of emergency in California. The first of these two extreme heat events showed a dependence on backup generators and power plants which were forced to operate outside of their normal permanent allowances. In November of that year, CARB Board approved the CHRP mitigation plan to be developed for response to potential future overuse of these grid-reliant backups.

However there was not a funding request to implement CHRP during that time. Then on August 31st, 2022 during the next extreme heat event Governor Newsom proclaimed a second state of emergency with executive orders N1422 and N1522 which remained in effect through September 9th of that year. These proclamations were made to expand the need for backup generators to operate statewide to essentially keep the lights on in California.

On the outreach front for these heat events, the district posted shortcuts on our website homepage for permit holders to notify us of excessive usage. We sent out notifications to all permit facilities via MailChimp and we utilized social media outlets with heat event response recommendations. CARB was then directed to begin implementation of CHRP with a state-funded mitigation plan Funding was established under Assembly Bill 205, which came to pass on June 30th, 2022 just before the second extreme heat event. The source of funding for this comes from the Distributed Electricity Backup Assets Account, which ensures funding for cleaner energy assets to be available to support electrical via the electrical grid during these extreme events.

So for the 21 event, more than $370,000 was allocated to two air districts, Feather River and Placer County. And those were due to localized impacts. Then for 22 which was a significant event impacting a larger portion of California, 24 of the 35 air districts were directed to implement projects that involved the scrap and replacement of emergency diesel-fueled backup generators.

So for some perspective on diesel backup generators, there are roughly 730 of them permitted in our district currently. The image on the right is from our permitted facilities map showing locations of all those permitted engines and the link to that map there's on the bottom left. These engines don't operate on a full-time basis and most of them have an annual permanent limit of 50 hours for testing and maintenance Despite the limited operation of these engines, our 2024 permitted stationary source data show that 19% of all diesel particulate matter and 9% of all NOx emissions were attributed to the uses of those engines in our district.

And those numbers do come from a roughly 50% split between testing and maintenance and actual operation during emergencies. So the engines shown here are two of the nine permitted backup generators that operated during the heat events. The Golden State Water Engine is located on East Clark in Orkut and you'd likely miss the yard where it is located if you're not looking for it.

The sanitary district engine is located just east of the Carpinteria State Beach. And this engine is a Tier Zero, when it was originally installed there were no permit requirements for emergency diesel backup generators. Then when the state air toxic control measure was established in 2005 this unit was grandfathered and operates in compliance today. In July of 2024, CARB was able to distribute the draft CHRP allocation amounts.

These allocations were based on a weighting of 35% CHRP emissions data, 35% air quality severity and 30% based on district population. So as you can see the two tables shown here have the same allocation totals on the very bottom just over 22 million yet the distribution is quite different. As stated in your board letter, when the district received the original proposal our compliance division discovered discrepancies with emissions that were reported to CARB versus actual emissions calculated by the district based off data reported from our permitted sources.

After multiple conversations with CARB it was determined that local excess emissions were considerably higher. One discrepancy for example is the CHRP data was missing four permanent diesel generators that actually operated in our district during this state of emergency So as such, CARB was able to adjust the allocation amounts for many districts that discovered similar discrepancies. And in the end we were able to receive an additional $415,000 and change.

So the original intent of CHIRP is to fund the replacement of old diesel backup generators with new or low emission engine, new zero or low emission engines while following the project requirements that you see on this slide here. And while the replacement of these older engines is desired, the cost of these project types would greatly impact our ability to assist in multiple sources.

So for example in your board letter we noted about receiving a clean air grant application last year for a hydrogen fuel cell generator which has a project cost of over $400,000. So during workshops for CHRP, CARB took into consideration the high cost of these projects and expanded the eligibility to any project that is eligible under the Carl Moyer Guidelines and the Community Air Protection Guidelines.

So as a reminder too, the internal policy for our Cleaner Grant Program is we fund up to 80% of the project cost, up to $250,000, and anything above that would need board approval, and the same would apply for any projects that we fund under this CHRP program. You know, there's a number of hurdles for any number of unique project types. CARB is open to new ideas on a case-by-case basis. So for example like one project type we're considering is proposing voluntary installation of control equipment on these older backup engines and if we come across ideas that are outside of this presentation or the original intent of CHRP then we'll bring it to the board.

So with the board's approval, we hope to enter into a grant agreement with CARB for CHRP as well as allocate $400,000 from the Clean Air Fund bringing the total funding for this program to more than $890,000. We can then start exploring project ideas that are outside the typical grant program box and the image on the right you see there is a hydrogen fuel cell generator that I mentioned on the previous slide This is the first project request of this type that we have received, but I don't think it's a stretch to say that ideas like this could start showing up on a more consistent basis.

So we're working on developing policy and procedures for the program and plan to start outreach soon which will coincide with the launch of our typical late summer clean air grant program. So there's our contact information and then any questions you might have let me know.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:02:47

Yeah, just a couple of them. First off I was wondering on the diesel backup generator countywide at the 730 that whole map there is there any statistics or is that something that I guess if you just zoom down the map could you see are these usually in proximity to housing? Or like is there a rule about how close these can be to residencies? Do we have that information of which

UnidentifiedClerkProposed · by role1:03:06

ones are near? We do have that information. I don't know if we want to speak on that Do you want me to do some research and I can get back to you? But if you zoom in on those individual icons, it'll tell you the address where they're at. And that map will show where housing is related to where that actual engine is located.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:03:23

Okay. I was just thinking about like in terms of prioritization, it would be something I would be assuming we're looking at generators replacement. If they're near housing and dwelling, those would probably be some of the more critical ones to look at this replacement program for.

UnidentifiedClerkProposed · by role1:03:35

Right, and then low-income and disadvantaged communities as well so they would coincide with all of that yeah. And that would be on a case by case basis because there are so many and the funding is I know it's a lot of money but it's still limited for the size of the projects.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:03:46

Which led me to the next one what is the usual cost to replace a generator like what would it be per?

UnidentifiedClerkProposed · by role1:03:52

Well, that big engine is 1,400 horsepower I think and they have small ones that are 120 horsepower. So the range in prices is extreme low to high. I couldn't tell you off the top of my head. We have never funded an emergency backup generator through our grant program so this is kind of new to us too. So we're going to be exploring all those options if you'd like I can put together a list or

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:04:13

Oh yeah, I think it might be premature for the questions though. So yes good to know it's on your radar

UnidentifiedClerkProposed · by role1:04:16

there so great that'd be good to know. It definitely is and that's why we're thinking about ideas outside of the box to maybe put control devices on some of the equipment to be able to help more as opposed to just replacing one or two engines.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:04:27

Yeah all

UnidentifiedClerkProposed · by role1:04:28

right thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:04:29

That's our challenge I think is not knowing the cost and the cost could be significant as Mike mentioned 400,000 was the one that you saw in the last image. So we want to make sure our dollars go as far as possible and benefit as many areas as we possibly can so a particulate filter for an existing diesel backup generator might provide a lot more emission benefits than completely replacing one or two.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:04:55

Director Hartman

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:04:59

This is a fascinating program. There's a positive feedback loop obviously, the climate's warming and so we get generators so we contribute more climate-warming pollutants to the air and so now we're trying reduce those pollutants as best we can. I was just curious, I mean it seems to me that CARB ought to be looking at these pilot technologies like the hydrogen.

We, to find out more give us more information. I just wondered about battery storage solar and battery how that fits and what other cutting-edge technologies? I realize people have invested a lot in generators and so yeah we maybe have to retrofit old generators but I'd rather get ready for the new

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:05:59

era to the extent that we can. This conversation is happening right now, not just at CARB but also at the legislature with data centers. Data centers are growing throughout the state and our need for AI in supercomputers is growing as well so that's going to have a higher need for backup generators. Linear generators are one thing that's being used those are much lower emissions than traditional backup generator. We actually have a linear generator that we were permitted What

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:06:28

is a linear generator?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:06:30

It's almost like a black box generator. Dave, would you like to describe it better? You have to come up yeah

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:06:51

So yeah, great question. What is a linear generator? Essentially if you ask a linear generator manufacturer they will tell you it is not combustion. If you ask an air district you'll get kind of different answers. Some people think it's combustion some people think it's not but essentially it takes any kind of fuel traditionally natural gas and it heats it up to the point where it oxidizes and there's two opposing pistons that will move kind In and out against each other, and they go through magnets and produce electricity.

So the emissions as Erin mentioned are much lower than traditional combustion because the temperature is so much lower.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:07:32

Yeah, and it's been more common in higher populated areas like the Bay Area and South Coast. I think we're fortunate to have one actually be proposed and used. Is it a hospital facility in Lompoc?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:07:44

It's a care facility in Lompoc.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:07:46

So we'll see more of that. The emissions are much reduced.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:07:50

And I guess that raises the question you know we deal with employers on commuting programs but I wonder if it's valuable I mean the big employers are going to need backup generation and whether whatever good technologies are out there we could be sharing that with them.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:08:12

Yeah, that's definitely something we can look into as far as more education and awareness informed specifically on various types of backup generators beyond the traditional diesel backup generator and have that conversation. That would be in our lane for sure.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:08:29

Thank you.

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UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:08:32

Director Brown.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:08:34

Thank you. Mike, you mentioned in your diesel backup generators country countywide 730 permitted how many of how many other generators are there are out there that are either natural gas or

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:08:51

non-diesel? Or 50 horsepower and smaller we don't know sorry We don't permit anything that's less than 50 horsepower.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:09:02

Okay, but yeah I mean there could be... You don't have anything else? It's all diesel or it's not above that?

UnidentifiedClerkProposed · by role1:09:09

Like as far as what we permit is above 50 horsepower diesel generators what if it's under 50 horsepower there could be hundreds out there that aren't even accounted for that we

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:09:18

don't know about. I guess I'm understanding I'm trying to drill down to what fuel is generating this power. So if it's natural gas, or if it's diesel, so even though you permit anything over 50 horsepower, do you have any generators over 50 horsepower that are fueled other than diesel?

UnidentifiedClerkProposed · by role1:09:49

If you guys want to keep asking permit questions, fantastic.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed1:09:55

Yeah, so as Mike was mentioning our permit requirements apply to diesel engines that are greater than 50 horsepower. We have a permit exemption for any engines that run on any fuel less than 50 horsepower and then we also have a permit exemption for engines that are greater than 50 horsepower that are spark ignited. So things like natural gas, gasoline, any of those fuels would be permit exempt.

We wouldn't know about them, we don't have them in our inventory. They don't show up on our map basically they don't have to get a permit as long as they operate I should mention for less than 200 hours total.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:10:34

Another alternative that came up not too long ago at another meeting was these micro nuclear pods that are available and I didn't know if that was in consideration for backup generation or not

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:10:49

They are being considered for backup generators. We haven't had anything, any project come in with that proposal in Santa Barbara County.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:10:57

Thank

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:10:57

you. Santa Maria? Any questions? Comments?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:11:03

No.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:11:03

Okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:11:06

Thank you for the presentation. That was very thorough.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:11:10

Thanks. All right. So do we have any public comment on this matter?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:11:13

Chair Lavagnino, members of the board, we did not receive any public comment on this item.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:11:18

All right, so we have some considered recommendations. Would anybody like to make a motion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:11:25

Motion to approve items. Motion to approve. Does that cover us enough?

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:11:32

Staff recommendation, sure. We got one, two A, B and C. Second by Director Lee. Roll call please.

Roll-call vote Passed 4–0 Motion to approve. Does that cover us enough? Staff recommendation, sure. We got one, two A, B and C. Second by Director Lee. Roll call
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Director Lee. Aye. Director Hartman. Aye. Director Silva. Aye Director Clark. Aye
UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:11:46

Director Parodi. Director Julian. Director Moseby. Director Rouse. Director Aguilera-Hernandez. Director Brown. And Chair Labadino. Motion passes unanimously.

UnidentifiedChairProposed · by role1:12:06

All right, so I'm going to hand this off after we introduce this item. Unfortunately have to leave a little bit early, so By the way, these are excellent handouts. Appreciate these. So next item is discussion item H2. Can the clerk please read that item into the record?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:12:28

Certainly. Discussion Item H2 Status Update on Oil and Gas Operations. Receive and file a presentation on the status of oil and gas operations in Santa Barbara County.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:12:39

Caitlin McNally our Compliance Division Manager will be providing the presentation today.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:12:49

Good bye and members of the board. My name is Caitlin McNally I'm the manager of our compliance division And today, I will be presenting a status update on oil and gas operations in Santa Barbara County Unfortunately due to unforeseen circumstances Marina was unable to attend today's meeting so it'll just be me presenting Next slide So this is the list of topics that I'll be covering today.

And the photo on the right side of this slide shows an oil and gas storage and processing equipment at the Carriaga lease up in northern Santa Barbara County. Next slide. The district regulates onshore and offshore oil and gas sources under the authority of the Federal Clean Air Act, and the California Health and Safety Code. The types of oil and gas sources we permit are listed on this slide. The photo on the right shows an oil well in the Casmalia area. Next slide.

So as Chair Lavinino mentioned, attachment B of the Oil and Gas Board packet that was provided to you includes the status of 18 onshore oil and gas facilities that are undergoing recent or upcoming changes. And I wanted to point out a few of the notable activities. First, CalGEM has completed plugging and abandoning 174 of 210 wells that were orphaned through the HVI Cat Canyon bankruptcy process a few years ago.

They're planning to plug and abandon the remaining wells in the near future, and the photo on the right side of this slide is one of the orphaned HVI Cat Canyon Wells. The four other facilities listed here have also had all of their wells plugged and abandoned recently. Next, the Santa Maria Asphalt Refinery is another facility with a notable change. This facility has been shut in and not operational since 2021 however it was recently purchased through the bankruptcy process in October of 2025 and the new owners are currently preparing to restart the facility.

Lastly, is Sable's San Ynez Unit Oil and Gas Plant which has been conducting restart operations since April of 2025 and recently began sending oil through their pipeline last Saturday as I'm sure you've all heard. I'll go into more detail on their status in a later slide. Next slide. In addition to onshore stationary sources, the district regulates 16 offshore oil and gas platforms in the waters adjacent to Santa Barbara County.

And that's the details of the status of those facilities is listed in Attachment D of the package, the board package. Six of the 16 platforms are operational, including Platforms A, B, C, Henry and Hill House which are operated by D Corps. And they send their oil via a subsea pipeline to an oil and gas plant in Ventura County. In addition, Sable's Platform Harmony recently began operating.

And the two remaining Sable platforms, Heritage and Hondo, are in the process of restarting. Freeport McMorrin's platform Irene is currently shut in and awaiting a method to get oil to the market. And there are five platforms that have completed plugging and abandoning, and are being decommissioned that are listed here in the last bullet point under the first section of this slide.

Lastly, platforms Hogan and Houchin which are shown in the photo on this slide are in the process of being plugged and abandoned. They have also been granted variances by the district's hearing board which is a quasi-judicial body established to hear applications for variances and other items. The variances that were granted for platforms Hogan and Howchin are for relief from fugitive hydrocarbon component emission limits, operational limits and leak and repair requirements until December 31st 2027.

Next slide. All right, so as I mentioned earlier this slide has more detail on Sable's Santa Ynez unit restart. Their stationary source is made up of five facilities including the Lost Flores Canyon and Popco Onshore plants that are shown in the satellite image on this slide as well as offshore platforms Harmony, Heritage and Hondo. The district regulates the emissions from these facilities, however we do not have direct authority over the pipelines that move oil from Lost Flores Canyon to Kern County.

In 2025 the district conducted 16 inspections of the five regulated facilities and issued seven notices of violation In addition, in 2025 Sable petitioned for and received approval for nine variances from the district's hearing board. In April of 2025 Sable began restarting operations at their Los Flores Canyon facility and Platform Harmony and the next month they began moving oil from Platform Harmony to Los Flores Canyon.

In January of 2026, Sable began restarting operations at Platform Heritage and last as I mentioned earlier just last Saturday Sable began shipping oil from the Lost Flores Canyon facility to Pentland Station in Kern County via the San Ynez pipeline system. Next slide. The current the district currently has four engineers and one technician that work in our permit program There are 183 permitted oil and gas facilities which equates to 13% of our roughly 1,400 total permitted facilities.

There are also 398 active oil and gas permits which make up 18% of our roughly 2,200 total active permits. New and modified facilities are subject to new source review permitting with requirements including best available control technology, air quality impact analysis and health risk assessment modeling, and emissions offsets. These various requirements are triggered at different emissions thresholds and in general the larger the project the more rigorous the permitting requirements.

The district's interactive permitted facilities map, which is shown on the right side of this slide and is available on our website includes all of our oil and gas facilities which you can see in the blue dots on the map. And I have a link and a QR code at the bottom of this slide if you want to look further into it. Next slide. The district has five inspectors who conduct inspections of all of our facilities throughout the county.

District inspectors perform inspections of new oil and gas sources after initial operations have commenced, and conduct routine inspections at each source on a regular basis thereafter. Major oil and gas sources, which are those that have the potential to emit 100 tons per year or more, are routinely inspected two to four times per year. The remaining small and medium oil and gas sources are routinely inspected once per year, once every two years, or once every three years. And the inspection frequency we choose is determined by considering the compliance history of the source as well as district priorities workload and staffing levels.

Oil and gas inspections are one of the most challenging types of inspections that we have. There are many safety issues to be aware of, including potential exposure to hydrogen sulfide emissions, rattlesnakes in the grassy areas around wells onshore, and extreme weather while rope swimming from a boat to an offshore platform in the ocean among other things.

It takes time to travel to some of our oil facilities, whether it's driving to an oil field in the Cuyama area or taking a helicopter or a boat to an oil platform in the ocean. Furthermore, once you arrive at the facility, it can take all day to conduct an inspection of facilities that have many wells, fugitive components and production equipment that are spread over a large area.

The photo on the right is of a district inspector conducting an inspection of a well in the Cuyama area, and they're using a toxic vapor analyzer to measure for fugitive hydrocarbon emissions. And I'll talk more about that in a later slide. Next slide. Alright, so the district uses FLIR infrared cameras to detect methane leaks during our inspections. We recently purchased our second FLIR camera earlier this fiscal year so we now have one available in each of our offices for staff convenience when they need to use them for inspections.

These FLIR cameras are used to screen for fugitive leaks from equipment that is unsafe or difficult to access. Any leaks that are discovered using the FLIR camera are then quantified with the toxic vapor analyzer you saw in the last slide, to determine compliance with our rules and permit conditions. If you could start the video? So this video was taken with the FLIR camera and shows a methane leak emanating from a tank in the Lompoc area. As you can see in the video, the tank access is difficult with only that cage ladder to get up to the top. And in this case, the leak was found in violation of our District Rule 325 and a Notice of Violation was issued.

Next slide. And on this slide I have photos of the various pieces of equipment that district inspectors use. As I just mentioned, the FLIR infrared camera on the upper left is used to detect the presence of fugitive hydrocarbon emissions. It does not quantify emissions but it's a great screening tool that can be used at a distance from the oil and gas equipment being evaluated and saves time during inspections.

Toxic vapor analyzers, which I've mentioned a few times now would detect and quantify fugitive hydrocarbons to determine compliance with districts and state rules and regulations. And that's on the upper right hand side of this slide. The TVA probe, which is you kind of hold it in your hand as kind of that looped around part of the instrument needs to be placed in close proximity to areas with potential leaks, so it can take a lot of time to conduct inspections where you're measuring a lot of different fugitive components for leaks.

But we've had a lot of success with first using the FLIR camera to detect the presence of a leak and then following up with the TVA to measure the concentration. The Jerome H2S analyzer measures hydrogen sulfide in the ambient air, and it's on the lower left of the slide. And it's used to ensure public health and safety as well as determine compliance with District Rule 310 for odorous organic sulfides.

And when using this equipment inspectors take measurements at locations downwind and at or beyond the property line of sources of H2s to determine compliance. The item in the middle of this slide is a personal H2S monitor which all district inspectors wear during oil and gas inspections to ensure their safety. It alerts the individual when there are unsafe levels of H2s in the ambient air, and when that alert happens, the district inspectors need to move out of the area and upwind to avoid H2 exposure.

Finally, the H2S calorimetric tube and pump on the lower right-hand side of the slide is used by inspectors to quantify H2s in a gas stream to determine compliance with district permit limits. Next slide. In limited situations such as public nuisance or hazardous releases, the district may also use additional equipment to evaluate the community air quality impacts. We have a specialized trailer mounted system called the Air Pointer which is shown in this photo And it transmits real-time emissions data to the district and measures particulate matter, hydrogen sulfide, benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene, xylene, ozone and meteorological conditions including wind and temperature.

Summa canister sampling may also be utilized to determine the point in time concentration of specific pollutants in the ambient air. And we have contracts with three different labs to conduct this sampling so we're prepared in case we need it. Luckily, in 2025, we didn't have any situations where we needed to utilize these options. Next slide. So now for enforcement, the district issues notices of violation or NOVs for failing to comply with permit conditions or local state and federal rules and regulations. And the primary purpose of an NOV is to initiate corrective action by a stationary source to reduce air pollution and comply with the applicable requirements.

In addition, to provide an incentive for continuing compliance, NOV's may include monetary penalties. If an NOV is not rectified, district staff follow up with the source to ensure compliance is achieved. When a compliance is not achieved in a timely manner, the district pursues options that require a company to take specific actions. These include variances and a few less commonly used options including compliance agreements, orders for abatement, and civil or criminal prosecution.

And the photo on this slide is actually Marina, who couldn't be here today taking a reading with the TVA at a well in the Lompoc area during one of her inspections. Next slide. The 2025 enforcement statistics are included in Attachment E of the Oil and Gas Board packet that was provided to you And in 2025, there were 83 active oil and gas stationary sources.

District inspectors conducted 126 oil and gas inspections issued 67 violations, 23 of which were for methane leaks and received over $148,000 in violation penalties. In addition, according to the CalGEM WellSTAR database and district permits, there were over 1,000 active wells and 1100 idle wells. The photo on this slide shows tanks at an oil lease in the Quiama area.

Next slide. Over the last decade, the district has seen decreases in oil and gas production in Santa Barbara County due in part to the 2015 pipeline rupture, the 2023 Phillips 66 refinery closure, the Santa Maria Asphalt Refinery shutdown, bankruptcies, and relinquished oil leases. And the district has already experienced a change in workload. As you can see on this graph, on this slide, the number of oil and gas inspections has decreased from 182 in 2019 to 126 in 2025.

The district has also experienced reduced revenue from oil and gas sources and we expect to see further changes in the future. The district and your board have taken actions to address this forecasted budget deficit. In fiscal year 23-24, we conducted a cost recovery and fee analysis study to determine the cost recovery percentage achieved by the district for our stationary source programs.

The results showed that the district was recovering only 47% of its costs to implement mandated fee based programs. In January 2024, your board unanimously adopted the cost recovery policy to ensure our agency achieves an 85% cost recovery for the regulatory program activities moving forward. This was followed with board action in your May 2024 meeting to revise the district's fee rule to secure better cost recovery from the district stationary source program and align permit fees with individual program costs.

Furthermore, the district's long-range fiscal strategy is reviewed every five years to ensure the district has necessary resources to accomplish its mission and mandates into the foreseeable future. Any future changes to oil and gas revenue will be captured and addressed through that review. I do want to take a moment to point out two things that might stand out to you in the graph on this slide. First is the drastic decrease in notices of violation between 2020 and 2021.

This huge decrease occurred because, in 2020 HVI Cat Canyon was responsible for the majority of the violations issued, 113 out of the 144 NOVs that were issued And then on December 17, 2020 HVI Cat Canyon filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection and stopped operating their many oil and gas facilities. The subsequent operators including the Bankruptcy Trustee and a few different companies that purchased lease since that time did a better job operating the facilities and did not violate our requirements anywhere near as much as HVI-Cat Canyon did.

Second is the decrease in inspections and NOVs in the 2024 calendar year. These decreases were due to the departure of an experienced lead oil and gas district staff member, and the time it took to hire on board and train the new oil and gas inspector. After getting the New Orleans Gas Inspector up to speed, you can see that in 2025 both the inspection and NOV numbers went back up to levels similar to 2023. Therefore we believe that if we didn't have those staffing changes, the inspection and NOV numbers for 2024 would have been similar to 2023 and 2025 and would have essentially plateaued.

Next slide please. So as identified in the following chart, oil and gas operations currently make up 7% of the district's regulated stationary sources. Between 2023 and 2025 which is the most recent time frame that covers our three-year permit revaluation cycle 27% of the permits issued were for oil and gas sources In 2025, oil and gas operations accounted for 22% of all of the compliance inspections conducted, 24% of the NOVs issued and 13% of the NOV penalties received. Lastly in fiscal year 2024-25, the operating revenue from oil and gas sources was 26% of the district's overall operating revenue.

Next slide. So to give you a better picture of the makeup of the district's operating revenue, as shown in the graph in the last slide, the fiscal year 24-25 oil and gas revenue made up 26% of the district's operating revenue, as I said, and revenue from other permitted sources made up 32%, and the remaining 42% was from other revenue outside of our permitted sources, and that's all shown on the left pie graph.

The chart on the right shows the percentages that other facilities contributed to our stationary source revenue in that fiscal year. Aerospace facilities made up the majority, which were closely followed by emergency standby diesel generators, boilers and engines, mineral processing facilities and landfills and wastewater treatment plants. The remaining facility types each made up less than 10%.

I do want to point out that this is a snapshot in time and these revenue amounts and percentages do fluctuate year-to-year depending on the projects that the district is working on, but to be consistent with the rest of the statistics included in this report we thought it'd be helpful to show the data from the most recent fiscal year. Next slide. We're almost at the end.

All right, so the district coordinates with multiple agencies while regulating oil and gas operations including the agencies listed on this slide. We also participate in the Santa Barbara County System Safety and Reliability Review Committee or SSRRC. We love our acronyms. The SSRC was established by the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors in 1986 to identify and require correction of possible design and operational hazards for oil and gas projects.

SSRC member agencies include Santa Barbara County P&D, the Santa Barbara County Fire Department, and the District. The SSRC meets on a monthly basis and conducts safety, inspection, maintenance and quality assurance program audits at oil and gas facilities several times per year. Next slide. The district has had rules in place to limit ozone precursor emissions, including reactive organic compounds from oil and gas operations since 1979.

District Rule 331 for Fugitive Emissions Inspection and Maintenance also reduces methane emissions due to its requirements for fugitive leaks at oil and gas facilities. The district also implements CARB's oil and gas methane regulation, which was adopted in 2017 and amended in 2023 to reduce methane emissions from oil and gas production processing storage and transmission stations.

On a statewide level, CalGEM and CARB are jointly leading the Methane Task Force. And their goal of the task force is to identify and respond to methane leaks from oil infrastructure near communities as well as address the impact methane has on climate change. Lastly, as part of the California Satellite Methane Project, CARB is utilizing satellite-based methane plume imagers to quickly detect and identify high emitting methane sources throughout the state.

CARB uses this data to work with regional and local agencies and industries so they can repair methane leaks more quickly. So far we have not been notified of any plumes detected in Santa Barbara County But the image on the right in this slide shows a gas leak that was found in Kern County using the satellite imagery. And that occurred in July of 2025 and was repaired by the operator within 24 hours.

Next slide. That concludes my presentation, and I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:35:48

Thank you, Caitlin. Any questions from the board? Mr. Silva? I don't know, I'm

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:35:56

sorry. How do you regulate onshore differently if you do than offshore?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:36:07

I would say that we do not regulate them differently. We implement the same rules and regulations for both onshore and offshore and we use the same equipment to conduct our inspections. Did you want to add

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:36:21

anything?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:36:23

I think one difference though would be the vessels that service the platforms, the mobile source aspect which we were able to work with EPA to secure our regulatory authority on the mobile sources that are necessary for the care and feeding of a platform. That also falls under our permit and we don't have mobile source requirements for onshore facilities.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:36:47

Anyone

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed1:36:48

else? It was actually building off of Director Hartman's question. I was curious could you maybe Maybe in a simpler way, could you walk through, especially I think Sable Pipeline is going to be most constituents have that as a question for us. Could you walk through kind of jurisdictionally where it starts? Because I remember you mentioning that like once it gets to a pipeline, it's no longer or could you just walk through the life cycle of your jurisdiction as it changes from phase to phase? Is that something

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:37:14

Yeah, I'll do my best. I don't know if Dave wants to add anything but so we regulate the stationary source. So for example for Lost Flores Canyon we regulate all of the pieces of equipment that have potential to emit air pollution at that facility including The tanks, the combustion equipment, the fugitive components. However once it leaves that facility in the pipeline we no longer have jurisdiction over those emissions or the pipeline and any leaks that may occur from that. The one caveat to that is that if the pipeline has a pump station where they might have emergency generators or something like that and maybe a few fugitive components, we do have jurisdiction because that is considered another stationary source for our purposes. But the actual underground pipeline in between does not fall within our regulatory jurisdiction.

Is there anything you want to add Aaron or Dave? Okay,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:38:17

thank you. Anyone in Santa Maria? Any questions?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:38:22

No.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:38:24

Okay quiet group I had a quick question on this. Do we in our budget do we have we've talked about penalties and violations and so forth Do we have anything that acknowledges the great actors that are in this space? That we've never had a violation or never had an issue with having those rewards. A lot of companies are now becoming more and more competitive to comply if there's a carrot on the stick rather than just a stick.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:39:13

Yeah in our budget we don't have any financial incentives to permitted sources. You

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:39:19

know it doesn't have to be financial, it can be a acknowledgement, a plaque something really simple like that. We've talked about

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:39:26

this actually. We don't currently have anything but we have talked about it just haven't gotten to the point of implementing but that is something we are interested in recognizing the good actors that are not violating

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:39:38

Those bragging rights go a long

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:39:40

ways

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:39:41

with their peers and across industry.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:39:45

Right, and it also has positive effects for our staff who you know may be seen as the bad guys always you know issuing something negative with the violations so it could also benefit our agency in addition to the industry.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:40:00

It's the Pareto rule 80% of your problems come from 20%. Yes yes. So reward those I just think that's a great idea.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:40:24

We started with incentives for the Blue Whales, Blue Skies and then we came to realize that the operators didn't want the amount of funding that we could provide for them as incentives. They wanted the bragging rights, they wanted the photos, they wanted the recognition so thank you for your question. Put that request up high in our action list. I know in talking with Caitlin, being an inspector is a hard job and when people go from the compliance world to other worlds like planning for example working for the agency it's amazing the change in interactions they have when they go out or at the site I'll have one example for you. Sage, one of our inspectors, he was an inspector for many years. He would go out to oil and gas facilities, and now he's on our planning team as a monitoring staff.

And we have a monitoring station at Las Flores Canyon. And when you go there as a monitoring staff there, welcome y'all on in! They come over here, you go on in. You go there as an inspector and they're like wait we got to really check everything. Are you sure you can be here? So it's hard to be an inspector. And so the more we can do as an agency to provide positive opportunities for those individuals to recognize the star performers in our area, it will benefit not only those star performers but it'll have a benefit internally with our staff as well. So thank you.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:41:52

Anything else up in Santa Maria?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:41:57

One quick statement. Go ahead. So as PG&E's doing more and more with drones in monitoring their power lines and stuff, you guys might look into that as well. You probably access a lot of these remote sites with FLIR and other devices that can help you with the drones. Maybe you could get more bang for the buck per employee.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:42:26

Good idea. Thank you. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:42:30

Okay. Public

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:42:32

comment?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:42:33

Chair Brown we did not receive any public comment on this item.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:42:36

Okay is there any internally or Zoom or otherwise?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:42:42

We do have two attendees on zoom if you would like to provide public comment please click the raise hand button at the bottom of your screen. We received no public comment.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:42:53

Okay, announcements. Thank you very much Caitlin.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:42:58

You're

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:42:58

welcome. This meeting will be rebroadcast on Sunday March 22nd at 2026 at 5 PM on the County of Santa Barbara Channel 20. Riveting let me tell ya okay? Thank you very much. We are adjourned for this

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:43:42

Yeah, our next meeting for the members on the hearing board nominating committee if you can stick around for a few extra minutes. Thank you. Our next board meeting? Oh that would be May 21st.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 10Proposed1:43:53

May 21 we'll see you again then thank you