City Council — March 11, 2026

Good evening. I'd like to call the March 11th, 2026 meeting of the Camarillo City Council and the Camarillo Sanitary District to order. If the city clerk would call the roll, I'd appreciate it.

Yes, thank you. Mayor and council we have three items on closed session. One is existing litigation under government code section 54956.9 D1 which is the OPV coalition versus Fox Canyon and then we have two matters under anticipated litigation subject to government code section 54956.9D2 and if there's any reportable action I'll make that report

Good evening, I'd like to reconvene the March 11th 2026 meeting of the Camarillo City Council and the Camarillo Sanitary District to order. Let the record reflect as I lose my voice that all council members are present. Vice Mayor Martinez-Bravo would you lead us in the pledge?

Sure please stand. Ready begin!

Are there any changes to the

agenda? Hearing none,

me. Sure. We are doing a 2026 Las Personas Community Academy recognition. Tonight we have the pleasure of recognizing a special group of community members who have recently completed the 2026 Las Personas Community Academy. The Community Academy is an interactive program designed to educate and engage residents on the roles and responsibilities of the City of Camarillo It provides a behind the scenes look at how our city operates and empowers participants to become informed and involved members of our community.

Tonight, we are recognizing the third graduating cohort of the annual academy. So at this point, if the Academy can come up and please join the mayor. All right, well welcome everyone here. And on behalf of the Camarillo City Council, we are proud to recognize you for your participation in Las Personas Community Academy. Each of you dedicated your time to learning more about local government from how decisions are made to the services that impact our daily lives. Your involvement demonstrates how much you care about Camarillo. It's meaningful initiative toward building a stronger and more connected community. We hope this experience has inspired you to stay engaged with your city, whether by volunteering attending meetings or simply sharing what you've learned with your neighbors.

Congratulations and thank you for your commitment to the City of

Camarillo. Did you elect a class valedictorian? She sent us a letter. Would anybody like to say anything? Just say a few words about your experience.

I very much want to thank Chantel, your passion and your patience with us and you made this experience 100% worth the time of going in on Mondays so thank you.

Well again, the vice mayor stated it very eloquently. Congratulations! We love an involved and committed group of Camarillo residents because that's what makes the city click so thank you very much congratulations don't be strangers Let me try again. Madam Clerk, with that we'll go to public speakers on items not on the agenda.

I received five requests to speak. If you'd like to speak but haven't submitted your name, please see the clerk staff in the foyer. Each speaker is limited to three minutes. The city council will receive general public comment for an initial period of 20 minutes. Speakers who sign up during the initial 20 minute public period but are not heard within that time will be given an opportunity to speak following the completion of action on all other agenda items.

Your time will be displayed with the video on the displays. When your time is up, the microphone will be muted and

Good

evening and

welcome. My name is Joseph Dubczynski, Jr. I'm a resident of Camarillo and I spend my mornings outside the ICE field office tracking raid activity. As of this morning or this afternoon at least 1,732 people have been abducted in the Tri-County area 857 of those were in Ventura County and 459 more within Camarillo More disturbing is that yesterday ICE agents out there hit Leo for a third time, Leo Martinez of VC Defensa and then lied about it again.

Violated his First Amendment right to follow observe and report on law enforcement activity. Violated his Fourth Amendment right by searching his car and taking his tablet. And then at the hospital Los Robles failed or violated his Sixth Amendment rights to not allow counsel to see him while he was under arrest. All of that led to him being let go at Los Robles after having his car towed and this is just more incidents of ICE lying about what they're doing out there and using it to target people in the community.

In addition to that, someone was seized up in Santa Barbara and beaten in the process of getting into being thrown to the back of a Pathfinder. They were driven all the way to Cortez Circle before EMS was called for a split tongue and then he was denied access to a hospital chaplain at St. John's Community Hospital. We report this and what we're told often by Ventura County Sheriff's Office is that these are just folks trying to do a job, but they're doing it by breaking the Constitution over and over again.

And it's sad because we can't even get the sheriff's office to investigate the personal vehicles of the folks who are out at the ice field office coming in constantly without license plates, having their lights on during the evenings, and any number of other violations that happen out there. The undocumented community and its advocates can help explain the situation that's out there. We just can't do it three minutes at a time here during public comments, so I'm asking once again to please create an immigration stakeholders committee in Camarillo so that you can hear from us on a regular basis and we can have dialogue about what we can do for the immigrants that are in this community not hearing constantly what we can't do. Thank you.

Spencer Ritchie?

Hello. Okay, hair looks fine. Hi I'm Spencer Ritchie and I noticed that you even though that this appears to be the first day council meeting where people can look up like basically have live Spanish translation. It does not seem to be the first city council meeting where there's closed captioning, so that's why I had to take my mask off to come up here after already having to take my mask off for the photo because I want my face to be visible in my lost personas picture but and but and my preference would have been to keep wearing a mask up here but especially but there's no captioning which sucks because wearing a mask, which he almost never does. Which might indicate that you know he might be sick or something because that seems but whatever and also Mayor Tennyson is his voice is all off which normally happens when you're sick so yeah that was that's why I can't wait for closed captioning to be a thing in these meetings so that you know I can wear my mask when I'm up here That's my main topical concern The lack of dollar I'd coverage for especially for in the afternoon.

Once again, I'm in the position of not being able to make a dollar right home so far because like after my work shift tomorrow because I'm going to talk a little bit about my experience with the dollar right does not go anywhere near my house that late and also there's. And then in the past few months, I also had incidents. For me and I had a panic attack and I had to get off you know, and you know it had it was a whole situation trying to get home.

It's there way too many people it's expected to serve and you know it's not you know I'd be happy. To be able to take a dollar at home, it's not my preference to take the route bus home instead of a dollar ride for reasons but. You know I would love to have you know that backup of the route bus when I for when I go home from work thank you have an evening.

Thank you. Sarah Wilson, Wilson Steve followed by Bev Dransfeldt.

Good evening Mayor Tennyson City Council city staff my name is Sarah Wilczewski I'm angry today I am angry that a family member had to shout over a fence with a bullhorn in order to communicate with their loved one who was kidnapped by ICE. I am angry that we are seeing kidnappings every single day still, and I'm just exhausted. I want to thank you guys for actually taking a step and it's mayor Tennyson and council member Tremblay and attending the oxide.

Immigration stakeholders meeting that is appreciated and I hope you guys have some insightful conversation and learned a lot and I hope that you guys will be forming one here.

Good evening Mayor Tennyson, Vice Mayor Dr. Martinez-Bravo I'm here just to express gratitude Sarah already shared. Mayor Tennyson, Council Member Tremblay, I am so gracious that you came out last Monday to Oxnard to observe. I understand you were just there to observe but I think It is important that we give thanks when you honor requests, when we ask you to come out and so that others know it. I know individually I have thanked you but I think publicly expressing that thanks so that people know the work that you're doing behind the scenes in your council roles.

So as Sarah had mentioned being able to see what happened in that meeting and seeing how powerful it is across different Agencies of every level of government from local to federal, also just knowing that Moorpark has taken steps that they're establishing theirs. Hoping that this movement continues across Ventura County that Oxnard led the way I've given them gratitude as well.

A lot of the 805 UndocuFund community has gone out there last year during Oxnard to say thank you. You know, we're doing what we can where we can but it takes all of us so thank you for your time.

Thank you. The last speaker is Siddharth Mehrotra

Good evening, Mayor, Council and neighbors. I am Siddharth Mehrotra and I am here because I agree. You have heard what Joseph, Sarah and Bev have said and I agree with it. I also disagree with it. I disagree with any suggestion that it's enough. It is only the beginning And I do hope it is a beginning, not an end in itself. I hope it is the beginning of a great many more and indeed swifter steps to rid ourselves of this unwanted occupation for occupation, I think we can call it without hesitation.

We have been under it now nearly two years. We have seen in people mistreated in every imaginable way and some we do not dare imagine, we have seen a child's ghost story come alive of fiends on the streets snatching them away to parts unknown locking them away into dark corners forever. We have seen a nightmare come alive and we are sick and tired of it so I too commend you for taking part, however small a part in an effort, however small an effort.

But I say again we must not rest on this laurel, this single leaf of laurel in our future triumphal wreath. I say we must go on. We must take more steps and more toward freeing our city and county from this gross violation of the ideals of Republican democracy. And all principles of compassion, which say truly I think it is wrong to make people wait a lifetime and punish them for waiting. To be counted part of the nation which has inspired their imaginations and those of their parents and grandparents before them.

Let us not forget what lies before us to do. Let's not forget our courage that we find matters like yesterday so disheartening Let us save ourselves and prove as good an example to the world as we have been a bad example until now. Thank you. Is

that it? Thank you for your comments, we will now go to item D and I will invite up Chris Valenzuela from the Camarillo Ranch Foundation for the annual report Chris sorry.

Good evening Mayor Tennyson, Council Members thank you so much for allowing me to be here once again my name is Chris Valenzuela I'm the president of the Camarillo Ranch Foundation, and I'm here tonight to provide an annual report. This is going to be a high-level general overview. I'll give you a quick snapshot of 2025 and some things that are going on in 2026. I'm also joined by our treasurer, Helen Fall, and past President David Slogan. And I also recognize some volunteers that were participants in the Academy this year. So it's very good to be here.

Here's some topics we'll touch on very quickly. So I see some familiar faces in this picture, but you guys are obviously familiar with the history of the ranch when the city acquired the property now four and a half acres. Right? And so the Camarillo Ranch Foundation has played a major role since then in educating the public and putting on community events and a variety of different things.

There's been a lot of changes since the pandemic. Right. So the scope of the foundation's change And our focus and charter is much focused on education. And so that is what we do, and I'll give you an idea of the team. So here you have our board members, and we have 45 docents. Our docents are pivotal in the success of the ranch operations, and our board members are again all volunteer. We don't have any paid staff or anything like that. We are able to have up to 15 different board members, so you can do some math there and see that we do have some vacancies. And that is a major focus of us right now. We are actively recruiting new board members.

What's not mentioned are also general volunteers. We have some folks that are not necessarily docents or board members but they do help us out. 2025 community events. So here's some, some events that we did in 2025 these are recurring and this is what the public has come to expect so throwback Thursdays is a very popular last Thursday of the month in the summer food trucks classic rock band Adolfo's birthday you see Mayor Tennyson doing the pinata Councilmember Kildee, we had council member Tennyson was our tram Lee rather was doing the cake in the barn and appreciate everybody's help.

Santa nights that's a very popular event we have a Santa Claus in the house Christmas carolers fake snow hot cocoa it is become very popular and so Trying to see how we could accommodate the growing turnout for that, right? So maybe in 2026 we think we'll start a little earlier. That way kind of helps with the lines a little bit so... In addition, we had an exhibit on the Camarillo White Horses much like the Reagan Library that has exhibits that come and go. We try to put on temporary exhibits to bring people back and educate them on variety of topics.

2026, you see additional events. So we are going to be doing a third throwback Thursday in August which in my experience doing this since 2019 the only complaint that I'm getting these days is why don't you do more of these? Which is very good so We heard the request and we will be doing an August one There's again talks about Santa nights again probably gonna start earlier rather than adding a third day Isabel Camarillo, that's our current exhibit. I encourage everyone here in the public to come by Saturdays and Sundays and learn about Isabel Camarillo who was the wife of Adolfo Camarillo so that will be on for the remainder of 2026 Here's some of the organizations that help support us in our events. And so when you come to an event, you have food options, you have entertainment, you have house tours, a little bit of everything.

We also have a section where the other community groups put up tables and they promote their causes or whether it's KidStream or Pleasant Valley Parks & Rec or the library activities. So the CAF, Commemorative Air Force Museum they have a paper airplane contest and so the idea is to get multiple groups from the community involved and it's something for everybody at our events Switching from events to school tours, this is a very important part of what we do.

We focus on third grade students. It is zero dollars. It doesn't cost anything for students to attend field trip. We try to make it very interactive. They make butter. So there are supplies that go into that. They do some roping with the cab, you see a picture there. Every now and then a school may reach out and say you know we want to go but there's an issue with funding and we don't have the bus. We will step up and provide that bus for that school so that they could come.

Again I touched on the exhibits and this is the last three again Isabel Camarillo is the current one We had one on the architectural history of the house. I really enjoyed the Juan Camarillo exhibit, it was something... I'm sad to say I didn't know a lot about Juan Camarillo until that exhibit and now I think about him every time I drive by the chapel. House tours $11-$2, $5 admission and then again children 12 and under are free and you see the guests there about 100 every month.

Right now we're working on like an Apple Pay option because it's cash at the moment, but we're trying to do some card reader or Apple Pay. I'm going to touch on some financials. These are our revenue streams. This is how the Camarillo Ranch Foundation makes money out of this list. I would say the community events are most profitable for us and again, we don't charge for community events. It's free, but it allows us to put on the event for the public and then make a little money to do it again Here's our balance sheet as of December 31st, so I'll let you look at that.

And while you're looking at that just very thankful to the city we get a lot of feedback. We have visitors from all over the world that come by and they just marvel at the beauty of the property. A lot of people also comment that they are a little envious that their community doesn't have anything like that. part of living history. So it's I mean, it was a real house that a real family lived in and unlike other museums right we this is living history we try to promote it as such but again very thankful for all the support from the city Mitchell Cameron Carmen everybody you guys are amazing

any questions? Any council member have a question or comment vice mayor

Mr. Valenzuela, thank you so much for the presentation and thank you to you and all of your team for everything that you do, all the love that goes into putting time and making our community a better place through this historic house. I had the opportunity to play the role of Carmen Camarillo through Women in History, through AAUW. And one of the things that I learned was that Mr. Ordon Camarillo he absolutely loved sharing his culture and sharing his home with so many people and enjoying fiestas and parties. And so I guess I'm one of One of the constituents, I would say we would love to see more and I'm glad that you're doing some of that.

Of course, I'm sure that takes time and dedication. And so the question that I ask for you is if there are people who are interested in being a part of the board, how would they go about it?

Yeah, thank you. That's a great question and I think it came into my daughter's classroom and she talked about you for a week when you were... We have active social media so our Facebook page and Instagram page which is at Camarillo Ranch Foundation is a good way. Our website also has options to reach out to us which is camarilleranch.org and then the email is officeatcamarilloranch.org So those are multiple ways that people can get in touch and we would be interested in any feedback And we're also entertaining some other event options. We've talked about a time capsule, a movie in the park type of thing, a fashion show, scavenger hunt and so we definitely want to add some more things. Obviously the events that we've been doing are very popular but we'd like to mix it up a little bit too.

Thank you

Go ahead, Kevin. I'm losing my voice. Thank you for what you do and all the board members but can you drill down just a little bit about the time that it takes to be a board member?

That's no that's a good question and and in unit you guys know although here and it is It's kind of up to the person. And so it is the first Wednesday of the month, 530 to 730 is the board meeting that is the minimum requirement and then other than that, it is kind of up to you how involved do you want to be on different committees with events? I can vouch for all of our board members there they all roll up their sleeves and spend hours and hours a week Mr. Tremblay.

The Camarillo Ranch is a treasure. And I want to, like my colleagues, express my thank you to you, to all the board members, to all of the docents and to all of the volunteers. It's it's a labor of love. It is time intensive and it just demonstrates your and all of your, all of the volunteers, board members, docents alike, et cetera. Thank you. The love of community and in our community specifically and in our heritage.

Thank you for everything that you are doing. I could have just said ditto, but I decided to say a few more words. Thank you Mr. Mayor

Then I'll say ditto. I just wanted to echo my colleagues and thank you for your time, thank all the board and thank the docents. It really is a wonderful home and it really is part of our heritage. And so all the time and commitment that you have to that helps our community grow and helps us grow into the future. So thank you so much. Thank you for being here.

Appreciate

that.

Ditto. Chris, thank you very much. Thank you

everybody.

Mr. City Manager could you introduce our new staff member for me?

Yes, Mr. Bradley Tolvert is our new Community Development Director I will let him tell you a little bit about himself, but he comes to us from the city of Glendale. We're very excited to have him went through an exhaustive search. He came out on top with that. I'll hand it over to Bradley

Thank you, Mister Ramirez. Good evening Mayor and Council Members. I'm very excited to be here. I was instructed to keep this very brief earlier. I think I'm already over my word count actually so I won't give too much of a background but I am very excited to be here. I have received a very warm gracious humbling welcome from staff from those in the community that I've been able to talk to since I've arrived and I'm very very much grateful to have the opportunity to work on really the tremendous opportunities this city has.

There's a lot of ambitious possibilities here that I know that Mr. Ramirez and others here have communicated to me, and a lot of things to be very excited about, and I am very excited to join this team, to be a part of this staff, to be part of this community, and just like to express my gratitude and appreciation for that.

Welcome aboard.

Welcome. Bienvenido.

Thank you. We will now move on to consent items E through J, Madam Clerk do we have any or first off do we have anybody that pardon me?

Excuse me Mayor. Oh. Council comments please.

We're gonna go through the consent are there any requests to pull an item from consent seeing none are there any comments

I can second. Do we have any

public comments on consent?

No

comments.

Now. Do you want to go with the council comments? Yes,

yes. Anybody? Yes, okay.

Thank you, thank you Mr. Mayor on February 26th they attended a meeting of the Regional Water Quality Control Board Los Angeles on February 27. I had a Metrolinx board of directors meeting in Los Angeles on March 2. I was an observer at the Oxnard Community Immigration Stakeholders Meeting on March 6th had a meeting of Ventura County Transportation Commission and then last Monday On March 9th, I was privileged to attend as a member of the Camarillo Rotary Viva La Comida which is a wonderful community dinner. I think it's our...I think it was the 56th annual dinner if I remember correctly so anyway that's it for me thank you

Thank you Mr. Mayor, on February 26 I attended the Economic Development and Land Use Committee meeting and right after that was a Mobile Home Rent Stabilization Ad Hoc Committee and then on March 5th I attended the CPA Board of Directors meeting and that's all I've got thank you

I can go next. February 26th, I attended the mobile home land rent ad hoc with Councilmember Santangelo and also on that same day the Economic Development and Land Use Committee with Councilmember Santangelo. February 26th I also attended a farmers meetup conference right here at the McGrath And so it was really a great reminder of how important it is to support our local economy with agriculture being such an important factor here in Ventura County, and to continue to support the farmers actually operates a family or a farmer owned hub serving all of Ventura County and they host an organic market every day from 11 to 4. It's called Farmivore so you can look at it online as well, but they had some delicious fresh and locally grown products that I definitely recommend I also had the opportunity to meet several local farmers and learn more about the work that they do to keep our agriculture very strong in this region.

And as mentioned, I think supporting our local farms helps strengthen this economy and preserves our farmland. and ensures access to fresh, healthy food. I encourage everyone to go and check them out. On February 26th, I also attended the Forum on Tobacco and Cannabis held at the Ventura County Office of Education. It was a very informative event. For students that were there, there were a lot of children there.

There were policy makers and families and I'd also like to thank Council Member Mr. Gabe Dedan for moderating that discussion. And on March 9th, I also attended the Viva La Comida event along with my fellow council members, Mayor Tennyson, Kildee and Tremblay. And as many of you may know, it's a fundraiser for the Boys and Girls Club organized by the Lions Rotary Correction.

Thank you so much to all of the volunteers and all of the organizers that put it together. It was a wonderful community gathering in support of the Boys and Girls Club, which truly gives so much back to the city of Camarillo and beyond. It was really great to see other elected officials there too. from the PVSD directors Doug Carlos McDowell and Becky Kramer, a representative from Supervisor Long's office and Thousand Oaks Conejo Recreation and Parks District Director Ashley Orozco. And thank you also to Council Member Tremblay for serving as our emcee and making the event a successful one. We appreciated your dad jokes. And the evening also provided an opportunity to recognize our fire department for their extensive work with a mountain fire, and as many of you know sadly fire season has become a year-round reality for our region And so we are deeply grateful to our firefighters for their dedication and courage and commitment to the service of our community.

Thank you so much,

Mr. Kildee. How much except I did attend the Viva La Comida. That's it?

I'm not going to go through my list, but I have to say a shout out and happy birthday to my wife since I can't be with her tonight. So honey if you're watching happy

birthday.

Okay let's try consent right now shall we? Anybody want to pull anything? Did we vote?

I'll call a roll call

vote.

That passes unanimously

Next we have item K and I believe Senior Planner Paul McLaren is going to present.

Yes, thank you Mayor. Good evening Mayor, Council Members this evening the council is reviewing a modification for IPD 412 M1 within the Airport North specific plan and associated projects as well as a CEQA addendum for the reduced project The site is surrounded by a highway, 101 to the north and the Camarillo Airport to the south. There are commercial uses to the east and existing industrial development to the west. The site is a vacant parcel that's approximately 46.88 acres. And on the map here on the right-hand side you can see that the car wash that's part of this is in this location here and the auto dealership would be up in this location. The rest of it is industrial.

IPD 412 was approved by the Planning Commission in 2024. The applicant now proposes a reduced project that redistributes development into additional buildings while reducing industrial square footage by nearly 100,000 square feet. There are no proposed changes to land use designation in the general plan, the Airport North specific plan or zoning. The reduced project is a total of approximately 664,775 square feet of non-residential development across auto uses industrial research and development space in an independently operated car wash. The project continues the coordinated campus design approach with heritage compatible architecture unified materials and integrated landscaping And the auto center building serves as a freeway visible anchor while remaining compatible with the heritage zone and the Airport North specific plan.

The brand elements of the dealership are incorporated into the heritage zone style through materials, quality and architectural detailing. The tentative map included in the project subdivides the property into seven lots to align with the revised building layout while maintaining shared access and utilities. The project does exceed the parking requirements and provides internal circulation designed to serve all lots safely and efficiently. The project will be served by existing public infrastructure, and includes stormwater treatment consistent with current standards. Additional roads will be built and maintained by the applicant along with utility infrastructure which will be included in constructed with a tracked map. And if you look on the map here, the blue here We're going to go ahead and close the meeting.

The car wash is an allowed use in the limited manufacturing zone with a conditional use permit. The car wash includes on-site queuing to avoid traffic spillover, which as you can see in the pink here it's got a reuse system to reduce potable demand and the operational conditions that will ensure compatibility with the zone to include Like, these are vacuum here but they are covered by a wall that you see from the street which you can actually see in the upper right here.

This would be the wall where the vacuums are now hidden behind the wall along Ventura Boulevard and so this architecture is reflective of the Spanish Mediterranean style which is consistent with the heritage zone guidance The reduced project remains consistent with the general plan and airport north specific plan by maintaining a coordinated employment campus in quality freeway gateway to the city. And the project advances multiple city goals related to design quality, economic development, place making and resource efficiency.

An addendum was prepared pursuant to CEQA guidelines. It confirms that the reduced project remains within the scope of the previously certified environmental documents and it requires no additional EIR. Based on the staff analysis, the project supports all the required findings for the IPD modification, the conditional use permit and the tentative track map.

The proposed actions were reviewed by the Planning Commission on February 3rd, 2026 and recommended for approval. Staff recommends approval of the proposed actions subject to the conditions of approval. And that ends my presentation. Thank you.

Council questions?

Go ahead.

I'm going to try this poll. Um, is the reduction of a hundred thousand square foot in industrial? Is that market driven?

Uh, I do believe, I mean, I honestly would probably ask the applicant who was here tonight to address that specifically as to why they chose to do that. But I do believe that that is the case so they can give more detail on that. Okay.

Thank

you.

I actually had questions more for the applicant as well.

Okay Well then we'll allow the applicant to come up right now for questions.

Vice Mayor. Good evening, Mayor Tennyson, members of the City Council. I'm Dennis Hardgrave part of the applicant team for this project. As you know, I've been before you many times before on Airport North spent a career working with implementing this plan and specifically tonight, I represent the owner on land use issues on the umbrella land use issues more than the specific site planning and design details. But I wanted to let you know that We've coordinated closely with staff and the Airport North specific plan update. If you recall, we did that several years ago. We did the update to this to this specific plan to address these particular needs. And additionally, I can confirm to you from my perspective as a I would say to the private practice planner that this does comply with all the standards that were set out.

It's actually a less intensive project, as has been stated. I would say that in response to your question Councilmember Kildee, the smaller building size would tend to be more attractive in not only the current marketplace but probably the longer term and within your economic development strategy. Again, the focus here I completely support of being good paying jobs. You'll hear tonight from union representatives who are in the room and that we see that this is a positive in the overall framework of what we've long, long term wanted to see happen over 30 years if you think about it with Airport North. So this would be a real milestone in completing that project With that I'm supportive if there's any policy or other questions. I might be able to answer

Sure, my first question was similar to councilmember Kildee's and I believe you answered a portion of it But if there's anything you'd like to add its do these modifications help to ensure that the project is marketable? To the life sciences and innovation companies so that Camarillo can remain competitive in attracting those high quality jobs

I think it does, and I would tell you specifically why. And other people are more an expert in this. This is observational from my time both in the county and working with Santa Clarita and other cities that some of these technology companies that we're trying to attract need scalable And so working with a smaller building type allows them to expand into multiple buildings over time. If you look at probably our greatest current success being Meissner Filtration, they are all over the place in that neighborhood. They would probably given a chance to do it again like to be within a single campus instead of spread up and down Flint Road like they are, and so this I think hits that need. It also creates a buyer opportunity which a lot of industrial parks only want to lease you a building So my understanding is that there would be an openness to allowing those users to own their buildings Which is very important for stock held companies

Okay, thank you so much Mr. Hardgrave. The second question is if the modifications are approved what is the anticipated timeline for attracting tenants and moving toward construction and occupancy which is the fun part?

All I can speak to is what I perceive as the plan check process. My understanding is they would go into construction drawings immediately on this. Fortunately at this site, the backbone is already in the site right? The surrounding streets and everything else are there and Darren can address the other issues regarding their timing.

Thank you.

Mayor Tennyson, council members my name's Darren Embry representing the applicant tonight. I live in Los Angeles. Just going to kind of echo what Dennis said, as far as flexibility responsiveness to the marketplace you'll see that we have more diverse sizes of buildings now in the in the layout and the planning. As far as the timing. We want to kick this project off.

Focusing on the auto center and then the off-site developments, the access point at Springville I think has been a game changer. You know everything that you're seeing tonight what that we're bringing forward is with the intention of expediting us getting started so CDs were going to start working on those within the next 30 to 45 days if we are fortunate enough and receive your votes of confidence tonight

Thank you. And Darren, last question is I see some familiar faces in the audience. Is the project going to be built on unionized labor and if so which unions?

Well, La Una our friends are here tonight obviously in great numbers and we're working with Altman's as our general contractor and they are a well-recognized union shop. Great

thank you so much. I have no further questions.

Any other questions? Well, this is an advertised public hearing. So we will open it up if we have any public comments.

Yes, we do. We have six speakers. The first speaker is Michael Shanklin. Please come to the podium.

Good evening Councilmembers, Mayor Tennyson. My name is Michael Shanklin I'm the Executive Director of KidStream Children's Museum and I would love to speak in support of this project. There are so many elements of this that I think are important for our children in our community where you see a car wash I see chemistry, where you see the car wash recycling water system. I see an opportunity to educate children on the importance of wise water usage. When you see a dealership that sells vehicles, I see an opportunity to teach children about engineering and design and creativity. So as we've been getting to know the principles, there's a tremendous amount of enthusiasm about the project because we recognize that we can leverage this incredible opportunity for the city with educational opportunities for our children so I urge you and hope that you will vote in support of the project as we move forward with KidStream.

We also look for every opportunity in the community to leverage resources so thank you for your consideration tonight.

Tom Leonard.

My name is Tom Leonard and thank you for allowing me to speak to you tonight I've been a member of this community for 82 years and 35 years ago in 1985, I spent a lot of time in this room developing the factory outlet center. The issue there with the city council is Camarillo was divided by the freeway and they thought the north side of the freeway was the infill section to concentrate on and the south side of the freeway was open space agriculture non-income producing By developing the factory outlet center, we know that that is really the emphasis or part of the emphasis that drives city economic structure.

It's the leading provider of income to the city through their sales tax. They're the largest provider of real estate taxes in the city. It created a further emphasis where the Target Center came in, after that the Home Depot Center came in and now we see Costco. And if you add all that up I'm not the expert here with the city but I would imagine it's your lion's share of income.