UnGovr Transcript
iHow this transcript is madeUnGovr transcribes the official recording with automated speech-to-text, separates speakers by voice, and matches voices to the seated roster. Names and attributions are AI estimates and may contain errors.Verify any quote yourself: click anywhere in the transcript and the official video jumps to that exact moment, so you can check any quote against the recording.0:14 – 0:156 turns
Good evening to all the wonderful people in the audience. Welcome to the October 14th, 2026 Camarillo City Council meeting and Camarillo Sanitary District meeting. Would the city clerk please call roll?
Council Member Santangelo.
Here.
Vice Mayor Martinez-Bravo. Here. Council Member Kildee.
Here
Council Member Tremblay. Here Mayor Tennyson.
1:15 – 1:2314 turns
I would like to call to order the open session of the October 14th, 2026 Camarillo City Council, Camarillo Sanitary District meeting. To order and ask Vice Mayor Martinez-Bravo to actually roll call Madam City Clerk.
Roll call, called by City Clerk
Show transcript
and now vice mayor if you'd lead us in the pledge. Sure,
please stand.
Put your right hand over your heart ready?
Are there any changes to the agenda? Hearing none, we will move on to general public comments. Madam Clerk.
I receive four requests to speak. General public comment is limited to 20 minutes, accommodating six or seven speakers. Each speaker will have three minutes. When your time expires you will be muted and
we will move on to the next speaker. After the mayor's final call for in-person or remote comments, public comment will close if there are no, if there is no response. Any remaining speakers will be heard after all agenda items. The first speaker is Joseph Depsinski.
Good evening.
Welcome.
My name is Joseph Duszynski, Jr., I'm a resident of Camarillo and I'm an Rapid Response Organizer for 805 UndocuFund. Last Monday the federal government has started quote Operation Safe California unquote where 113 people have been taken so far from the 805 area code in this increased surge for enrollment increase in ice surge or surge in ice activity It's obviously being done to intimidate people before the midterms. It's only happening in certain states and not any other states. It is such a naked power grab, and it is disgusting.
We have crossed 3,000 kidnappings in the entire 805 area code. Ventura County has at least 1,361. We're still catching up on things, and Camarillo is at 519. During this time we're asking the public to call our hotline if they see ICE at 805-870-8855 And to donate and get involved because as the City Council has made clear, they don't feel it is their responsibility to do anything about this.
11 incidents have happened... I'm sorry 12 incidents have happened since the last city council meeting on September 22nd at 11 15 a.m. The ICE was harassing people outside of the McDonald's on Verdugo Way right off the highway right there. At 7 a. m. on September 25th the white Jeep was spotted, a raided vehicle spotted on mobile near Villa Palazzo On October 2nd at 929 a.m., a black Pathfinder was seen driving recklessly on Pleasant Valley and 5th.
On October 3rd at 544 in the morning, 11 vehicles arrived with Arizona plates. That was the start of the surge and then they moved their way up to North Santa Barbara. On October 6th at 612 in the morning, the Black Tahoe was spotted at Mobile and Ponderosa. At 846 a.m., the Black Jeep Wagoneer was spotted at Santa Rosa and Blanchard. And at 225 p.m. on the 6th, ICE was reported near El Tecolote.
On the 7th at 6.41 a.m., two SUVs were seen near Mobile and Ponderosa that were known ICE vehicles. And on October 9, an eight-car convoy decided to run amok around Camarillo just trying to look for anybody that they could after they had terrorized Newbury Park in Thousand Oaks. Also on that day at 7.56 a. m., the black Nissan Murano and the gray Nissan Murano were seen at the Pleasant Valley Aquatic Center.
On October 10th at 7.47 a.m., the Black Durango was seen at the Burger Barn, and just this morning at the 14th at 5 a. m., I was doing my usual patrol and saw HSI staging at 770 Paseo Camarillo. Seven vehicles surrounded me pulling out assault weapons and five people tried to give me different things to do in an attempt to disorient me like typical cop stuff All of them were unprofessional except for one HSI guy.
And this is where we're at now in Camarillo. Government thugs who won't identify themselves are now picking me up off the street and throwing me into the back of an unmarked vehicle, and I was disappeared for two hours. Thank you. Thank you.
Mark Malone followed by Spencer Ritchie
Welcome.
Thank you very much. Hello, Mark Malone. My family has been a hangar tenant at Camarillo for 44 years. The Department of Airports is in lease negotiations with Air 7 that will dramatically and permanently increase jet operations over Old Town by about 3,000 overflights. Air 7 would build 16 jet-sized hangars as large as a five bedroom house running for $40,000 per year.
Air 7 would also build a major jet repair facility for up to 17 jets. Emissions from these jet engines will drift downwind into the EAA hangar. This development would force local general aviation pilots into replacement hangars at double or triple their cost. There is a better option. Sky Harbor would keep these midfield hangers in good repair, or replace them at their cost. They would build two large jet hangers holding six jets. This is a much larger impact and local residents don't have to get priced out just to benefit the owners of Air 7.
Air 7's submitted proposal says no increase in jet operations The Director of Airports says it's less than 10 new jets. Both are plain wrong. 16 new jet size hangars would be new, so that's plus 16 jets. They don't exist now. The Jet Repair Facility that Air 7 submitted shows 16 jets in their plan. Together this is over 30 new jets The FAA will be investigating the Air 7 lease and the federal grants can be at risk if one user group, Jets is given preference over another user group small airplanes.
I encourage you to consider how an increase of 30 jets will permanently impact Old Town and the quality of life in Camarillo. This is not a Costco type project where a large part of the community can benefit Private jets are for the super ultra wealthy, not just the wealthy. The convenience for a few should not override the impact to the community. Camarillo should not become the overflow parking lot for the jets of the rich and famous.
I encourage you to understand what's going on with this new lease. This is different from every other lease. This is a displacement of tenants that are currently there to build large jet hangars, and it is an increase of about 30 jets. If they just fly twice a week, do the math, this is gonna be a substantial increase in jet traffic. Once it's here, it's permanent. It's a 40- or 50-year lease.
It could be sold to some other operator. So even though this is not on your agenda, I encourage you to get involved and understand this issue. Thank you very much. It's a beautiful room. I haven't been here before, whoever was involved in putting this together should be there's an applause for that. Very well represents a small town. Thank you. Thank you.
Spencer Ritchie followed by Sid Harth Mitrotra. All
1:23 – 1:293 turns
right. Hello. I am Spencer Ritchie. I've lived here my whole life and So three concerns I have today. One, I'm seconding the call to not have our airport completely loaded to the brim with tons of jets. We do not need tons of jets. Second of all that was actually really terrifying like even just hearing it second hand what Like you know federal immigration immigrants. I think HSI, I don't know were able to pull off with Mr. Dubzinski this morning.
And like, and honestly the setup it sounds. You know what I was really like reminded of by his description of basically five of them shouting different orders at him? I was really reminded of the police murder of Daniel Shaver Which was caught on I think body camera and yeah they basically that consisted of the police officers giving him all these impossible commands and then.
And then basically be asking a reason to shoot him to death. Because he allegedly didn't do one of the commands or whatever you have no idea how terrifyingly close. That sounds. Like, you know what happened this morning with Mr. Dubczynski? It was purely luck really I think that it didn't turn into another Renee Good, another Alex Pretty and honestly that is just horrifying the idea of that coming to our So yeah, I'm and and the other thing about you know the opera related operations of California is that by scaring away immigrants and those who you know ice might think are immigrants.
Like, basically that's an attempt at voter suppression. That's what it is. So you know, you feeling proud of yourselves by letting ICE do what they want here? You've greenlit voter suppression in Camarillo and honestly Congresswoman Dr. Martinez-Bravo I think I am the most disappointed in you and the most befuddled by your Like allowing you know basically vcs so to help ice to this extent and you know like still with like the surveillance cameras and stuff to our own town because you said it yourself.
Like your skin color in your name made you targets why are you being such a thank you.
Good evening, Council. And ditto to all which has been said here today by the others before me is as far as airplanes go I believe if air traffic is increased it should be for the benefit of the citizens here for all of us who live here. If we must have large airplanes here we should have an airline service such as we get from Santa Barbara or Los Angeles So much for that. As for immigration and the way it is being punished now, as Joseph said, the City Council has washed their hands of the matter. True!
Yet you are the only people we can appeal to about it. And we do so because it is an appalling shame upon us all You on your seats and us in the streets. It is an appalling shame to us all when, in this mockery of a police force calling itself Immigration Customs Enforcement, dares use our city as a staging ground, as a headquarters, as a shelter for their abominable activities.
Dares hide here when going out to terrorize other cities, other cities which have been friends of ours time out of mind Soiling our reputation in the eyes of the world. This has gone on far too long, and they do it within city limits! I repeat, within city limits. They do so from Adolfo Road. They do so from the very namesake of the city. They do so from in our very hearts, and our hearts are breaking with it.
This must not be tolerated. We must make our city a sanctuary, a safe place for people of all castes, creeds, colors, all kinds and the only thing we cannot tolerate is intolerance personified in this case by the Department of Homeland Security. ICE out now! Thank you.
John Caravello followed by Denae Lassen
1:29 – 1:3512 turns
Hello. Good evening. It's good to see you all, my name is John Caravillo I am a faculty member at Cal State Channel Islands and I have been for about nine years now. I've recently become informed that a Cal State Northridge student and her brother were abducted and subsequently deported after going to a routine immigration check-in I understand that didn't happen here.
A little while ago, I also learned that up in Santa Maria a student was chased by ice onto campus at a community college and I again recognize that did not happen here. There have also been reports and stories that have come out about colleges around the country and especially in California that have started to see more and more ice presence I'm wondering if y'all have considered the possibility that our universities, the bigger universities are next.
They could be a hotspot for ICE presence and abductions of young people many of which have either DACA status or otherwise have status that would normally protect them. Those things are not protecting them now Genuinely, I really do ask. Have you, and I know you can't answer but have you done anything to correspond with the local university? Cal State Channel Islands is the only public university in this county to make sure that students are as safe as possible.
Maybe you have, I hope you have. Today I spoke with a student who told me that they would not be able to make it to class on time at least once a week because this student had to take their little brother to school. I don't know, maybe you do know but many, many young people, many college students, many of my college students do in fact have mixed families.
This is something I in my work have to take into account Last time I was here, I implored you all to involve yourselves in the work that so many people have been doing for nearly two years now. And maybe I'm wrong about this but I have yet to hear of any of you actually coming to even an informational meeting for either of the two local immigration defense organizations I know at least several of you have probably done ride-alongs with police. Why don't you come out with us?
If you're lucky, maybe you will experience pepper spray through the vents of the car or a gun in your face.
Thank you.
Denae Lassen followed by Eugenia Granados.
Are those the last two, Madam Clerk? Okay we'll make it through those two.
Good evening. I didn't
know
the process and I put my name in the computer, but I wasn't going to speak. I'm sorry. Thank you.
Thank
you.
Welcome.
Hi, good evening. I'm Denae Lassen, a volunteer with 805 Mundaki Fund. And I'm here again and sadly disappointed again. The families that need help continue to grow and unfortunately you guys chose not to cooperate with VCCF with the fund And that has created us having to reach out to the community to fill in that gap. And it's really disappointing that even though Camarillo lies within the county, that the Ventura County Community Fund helps your fear of helping someone as other was greater than just having a heart and helping people.
It feels like you've washed your hands of something that is happening every single day. I understand that you are not out there with us every day, we have invited you to come out with us. I don't know if it is fear of seeing how bad it really is. I'm not really sure why I invite you again to come sit in my car with me You can go sit with Joe, you can sit with John. You can sit with any of us We can drive we can just sit in park and watch whatever you want to do But I encourage you to come and see what is actually happening ICE calls the police on Us to protect themselves they call the police when they get uncomfortable and the police show up and As a mayor, I would expect that you would have interest in everybody within our city. And just as a human about people around that are not even within our city but it feels like you've decided to double down and protect your Blue Line Brotherhood and their adjacent ICE agents rather than reflecting on the harm that is actually happening within our community.
It's become weekly now, that ICE agents are pulling out their guns on civilians and it's not far away. I'm not talking about news stations. I mean like here within, today they pulled their guns out and it's unnecessary. We are in danger And it's not just people with brown skin in danger. At this point, their recklessness has gone unchecked and everybody is in danger.
This is not something that you want happening in Camarillo and it's happening in Camarillo, in Oxnard, in Ventura, in Thousand Oaks. We are going to be another new story. We are going to have another Renee Good, another Alex Pretty. We are going to be that and it's because we aren't having your guys' help so we have to go do it ourselves. This will be on your hands if it happens.
Thank you.
Thank you. If anybody else wants to speak, please register and we will take you at the end of the regular City Council agenda. With that, we will go to council staff and intergovernmental reports. I think the first thing is our assistant city manager Carmen Nichols.
1:36 – 1:513 turns
Thank you, Mayor and members of the City Council. In anticipation of the potential El Nino-related weather events and as part of the city's ongoing emergency preparedness efforts, city staff have been coordinating internally and with regional agency partners to ensure readiness. Chief Eric Tennyson will provide an overview of these preparations and emphasize the importance of individual and household preparedness including resources available to help residents prepare for potential emergencies. Chief Tennyson?
Thank you, Carmen. Good evening Mayor and members of the City Council. Tonight I'd like to spend a few minutes discussing our preparations for the upcoming winter season, what we know about the potential weather impacts and perhaps most importantly what we've done as a city to make sure that we're ready. One of the challenges with preparing for winter weather is that we don't always know exactly what we're preparing for.
Some years we experience relatively little rainfall and other years we see significant storms that can create problems across our community In a very short period of time, and our responsibility is to prepare for both of those possibilities. And that's really the focus of tonight's presentation. The central message tonight is pretty straightforward. We can't control the weather but we can control how well we prepare for the weather. We're entering a winter season with some uncertainty surrounding the potential impacts of the El Nino conditions. And while the forecasts provide us with valuable information, they don't and right now they can't necessarily tell us how much rain Camarillo will receive when that rain will arrive or how intense each individual storm might be.
What I want to emphasize is that our preparations don't begin when a storm appears in the forecast. They're already underway. Our staff and public safety partners are working together to identify potential vulnerabilities, to strengthen our response capabilities and to make sure we're positioned to respond effectively if significant weather develops. This slide is particularly important because there's a common misconception that a strong El Nino means we're going to have exceptionally wet winter. That's simply not the case. If you look at the historical data here, you'll see that even during strong El Nino years rainfall patterns have varied considerably in the southwest. Some years have produced significant rainfall across Southern California while others have been much less remarkable.
Based on that historical perspective, we don't want to create unnecessary alarm based on a forecast that still really carries much uncertainty. And at the same time, we certainly don't want to become complacent. The National Weather Service will continue refining its forecasts as we move further into the season and we'll be monitoring those updates closely and adjusting our preparations as needed.
One of the best ways to understand why we take winter preparedness so seriously is to look at our own rainfall history here in Camarillo. Over the past 30 years, we've experienced some pretty dramatic differences from one year to the next. At one end of the spectrum, we've had years with less than three inches of rainfall total and at the other end, we have experienced years approaching 35 inches of rain.
That's an enormous difference for the same community. One thing to remember is that annual rainfall totals don't necessarily tell the whole story or paint the whole picture. A storm that produces several inches of rain over a short period can create serious problems, even during a year that ultimately finishes below average. So for us it's not simply about how much rain we receive over the entire winter. It's also about how quickly that rain falls where it falls and how our local drainage systems and waterways respond.
The other thing I'll reiterate here is that a strong El Nino does not guarantee above average rainfall. The numbers that you see highlighted in red were considered strong El Nino years and only one resulted in significantly above normal rainfall totals. When we talk about winter weather, most people naturally think about heavy rain and flooding. But the reality is that significant storms can create many different challenges sometimes all at the same time.
Heavy rain can overwhelm local drainage systems particularly if debris begins blocking storm drains and channels. High winds can bring down trees and power lines creating roadway hazards and utility outages. In areas near our hillsides and waterways, we also have to be concerned about erosion debris movement and rapidly changing stream conditions. And one of the things that makes these events challenging is that the impacts can be very localized throughout our city. One neighborhood might experience relatively minor issues, while another just a short distance away is dealing with significant flooding and maybe even blocked roadways.
That's why our planning has to be flexible enough to respond to different types of emergencies across the city rather than focusing on one particular storm scenario. Looking specifically at our city, we've identified several areas where we know winter storms can create challenges because it has created those challenges in the past. This map highlights some of those areas of concern. Our primary considerations include localized roadway flooding, debris and mud flow coming down from surrounding hillsides and flooding or erosion associated with our waterways.
These areas that warrant additional information, additional attention because of their geography, drainage characteristics or previous experiences during storm events. It's also important to understand that the areas highlighted on this map are not the only location where problems could occur. A blocked storm drain, a fallen tree or a particularly intense period of rainfall can create an issue almost anywhere in our city.
What this map does is helps us prioritize our planning monitoring and deployment of resources before and during significant weather and I can tell you that staff has already been doing just that Now that we've discussed the potential hazard, I'd like to shift our attention to what we're doing to prepare for the hazards. And I think this is probably the most important part of tonight's presentation.
Effective emergency response doesn't happen by accident. It's the result of planning, coordination and making sure the right people and resources are available when they're needed. One of our priorities has been ensuring that our Emergency Operations Center or EOC is ready to activate if conditions warrant. We've also been working very closely with our partners throughout Ventura County including fire, law enforcement, public works, utility providers and other agencies that would play a role during a significant storm event.
That coordination is especially important because weather emergencies don't recognize jurisdictional boundaries. A storm affecting the county area in the heights may also have downstream impacts in our city. We've already established those relationships. We understand our respective responsibilities and we've identified potential resource needs before we've even come to the emergency.
We're also reviewing our response procedures, including how we request additional resources, coordinate evacuations and communicate information to the public. Ultimately, our goal is to eliminate as many surprises as possible before the first significant storm arrives. The previous slide described our overall approach, and this slide highlights some of the more tangible steps that we've taken here in the city to improve our readiness.
For example, we've developed a virtual emergency operations center capability. That's important because a major storm may make it difficult for everyone to physically report to one location. A virtual EOC gives us additional flexibility to coordinate our response and maintain communication regardless of staffs ability to meet in person. We've also focused on maintaining continuity of city operations. That includes backup power capabilities at the City Hall, preparing employees to work remotely when necessary and installing battery backups for many of our traffic signals.
These improvements may not be particularly visible to the public during normal operations but they can become extremely important during a prolonged power outage or significant weather event. We've also updated agreements that allow us to access additional resources when needed. On the public works side, there's been a considerable attention given to inspecting and clearing drainage inlets, ditches and channels.
That's a particularly important part of our preparation because something as simple as accumulated leaves or debris blocking a drainage inlet can turn an otherwise manageable rainstorm into a localized flooding problem. Finally, we've been coordinating with our regional partners including the County of Ventura, the Sheriff's Office of Emergency Services, the Fire Department, Caltrans and the National Weather Service.
I'd like to emphasize that this isn't something we're just beginning to think about or talk about these are preparations and improvement that have already begun taking place. And while no amount of planning can eliminate every problem these efforts put us in a much better position to respond quickly and effectively Up to this point, I've focused primarily on what the city is doing. But there's another very important component to winter preparedness and that's what our residents can do to protect themselves and their families.
In the County of Ventura we use a very simple concept ready set go. And the idea is that there are things everyone should be doing well before the storm arrives. Things they should be doing as conditions begin to develop and actions they may need to take when an emergency becomes imminent. The key is not waiting until the last minute. The key is being prepared to make decisions on your own because you know best your individual limitations and needs.
When a significant storm is approaching, emergency responders may be dealing with multiple incidents at the same time. Residents who have already prepared their property, established a family emergency plan and know where to get reliable information are going to be in a much better position to respond safely. I'd like to spend just a moment discussing each of these three steps.
The first step is getting ready, and most of these things are pretty simple. For homeowners it starts with taking a look around your property. Where does water naturally flow when it rains? Are your gutters and drains clear? Is there a low spot near your home where water tends to accumulate? Those are the kinds of things that are much easier to address on a Sunday afternoon than in the middle of a storm.
For some properties that may mean having sandbags available or taking additional steps to redirect water away from vulnerable areas. The other part of being ready is making sure your family has a plan. If you lose power for an extended period, do you have what you need to get along? If you're asked to evacuate, do you know where you'll go, what you'll take and how will you communicate with family members?
And as for residents with pets, mobility limitations or family members who require additional assistance planning ahead becomes even more important. We encourage everyone to think through those scenarios now when there's time to make thoughtful decisions rather than when the emergency happens and you're making rushed ones. The goal isn't to prepare for every imaginal emergency it's to make sure you're not starting from scratch when something does happen The second step is to stay informed. One of the challenges during significant weather events is that conditions can change very quickly.
A road that was open an hour ago may become impassable, a neighborhood that wasn't experiencing problems early in the day may suddenly be dealing with flooding. That's why having access to accurate timely information is very important. We strongly encourage residents to register for VC Alert, Ventura County's emergency notification system. It is one of the ways public safety officials can communicate important information including emergency warnings and evacuation notifications.
We also encourage residents use VC Emergency which provides official information about active incidents occurring throughout Ventura County. And of course we recommend monitoring forecasts and weather advisories from the National Weather Service. One point I'd really like to emphasize is the importance of relying on official information sources. During emergencies, information can spread quickly through social media and unfortunately not all of that information is accurate or current.
Knowing where to find reliable information before an emergency occurs can make a significant difference when decisions need to be made very quickly. The final step is perhaps the most important and that's knowing when to act. When public safety officials issue an evacuation notification or close a roadway, those decisions are made because there is a concern for public safety.
We recognize that leaving your home can be disruptive and nobody wants to evacuate unnecessarily. But waiting too long can create a much more dangerous situation both for residents and for the emergency personnel who may ultimately have to assist them. One of the things we've seen during significant storms is how quickly water can make a roadway unsafe, and it's not always possible to determine how deep that water is or whether the roadway underneath that water has been damaged. So if you encounter a flooded roadway or road closure, please don't attempt to drive around the barricades.
Likewise, if an evacuation notification is issued for your neighborhood take it seriously and follow the instructions that have been provided. For residents who may need additional time to leave, whether because of mobility issues, transportation needs, pets or other circumstances. It's especially important that you plan ahead and consider leaving before conditions deteriorate and not wait on us to make decisions for you. The message here is quite simple. We want residents making safe decisions early rather than finding themselves in a situation where their options become limited.
Before I conclude this presentation, I want to highlight a few resources that we encourage our residents to become familiar with. Ready Ventura County provides a variety of preparedness information including guidance on emergency planning and registering for VC alert. Ventura County Public Works also provides a homeowner's guide specifically addressing flooding debris and erosion control. It's a very useful resource for residents who may have concerns about drainage or runoff around their property.
There are also resources for checking roadway closures and monitoring active emergencies. And finally, the National Weather Service remains our primary source for weather forecasts, watches and warnings. All of these resources are included here, and we encourage residents to take advantage of them before severe weather arrives. I'd like to close with one final thought. We don't know exactly what this winter is going to bring.
It may turn out to be a relatively uneventful season or we may experience storms that place significant demands on our community. But our responsibility here at the city with our partners and to every other community member at home is they be prepared for either outcome. The city has been taking steps to strengthen our readiness, improve our coordination and ensure that we have the resources and procedures in place to respond effectively.
And we're asking our residents to be good partners in that effort by preparing their homes making emergency plans staying informed and following public safety guidance when necessary. And I'd like to turn it back over to Carmen.
Thank you, Chief Tennyson. Mayor and members of the City Council we will continue to share messaging with our community on the resources that are available by the city and county OES through all the city communication channels and I would also invite the public to visit the city website on the trending topics which is right on the cover page of our website is the emergency and readiness tab. So if you go to that tab, you'll find a lot more information there as well. And the weather preparedness tab. If you're wondering where you can pick up sandbags we talked about that.
If the public wants to know where to pick them up there is a link there to 24 different fire stations that will provide those sandbags so we will update our website as new information becomes available But as Chief Tennyson mentioned, there were a lot of resources out there. So we really hope that individuals in our community will prepare for winter storms.
Mayor.
1:51 – 2:0118 turns
Thank you any questions for the commander or the assistant city manager? Mr. Kildee
Yeah, I want to thank you for that presentation. I think a message as well is that we just don't know right now every situation is different but I think it's vitally important that we prepare for the worst and we hope for the best here and I'm pleased that you have a plan for the battery backup for them at least the major intersections in our city here because Hopefully we won't have to use them, but I've seen through the years that that can get backed up really quickly here. So I think that's really good that you're kind of circling in front of this issue and not behind it so I appreciate that. Let's use the technology to our benefit.
Thank
you. Anybody else? Vice
Mayor.
I have more of a question but then a comment, just sharing my thoughts from the presentation. So first of all this is a topic that has been at the top of my mind with emergency preparedness for our city even through our nonprofit and so I think it's a really good idea that we are having these discussions that you were able to provide this presentation as well Eric thank you for that And then I'm also thinking about our most vulnerable community members, whether they are people with disabilities or seniors.
People with mobility issues. And I'm thinking about how we can help with, how can we mobilize some of that assistance maybe through our council on aging? I'm not sure what initiatives they have taken. I'd love to kind of get that information back to see, I know that they were very active during the pandemic and to see if maybe they need some additional resources But I think preparing is vital, and I'm just thinking about like how to mobilize that information and assistance because we do want people to be well prepared. How can we also meet them where they are for people who may not be able to go and pick up a sandbag for example or may not know how to prepare? So it's more I guess a question for the Council in terms of you know would we want to bring that information back or maybe staff can look into it to see what the council on aging has been working on and see how we can get that further supported.
Mrs. Nichols?
We do a lot of coordination with county and the different agency resources. One of the things that we promote, and Chief Tennyson can answer to this is especially for those that are disabled or have access and functional needs it's really important that they, you're right Vice Mayor Bravo They may not be able to pick up a sandbag, but we really look for them to partner with their neighbors and their friends so that they can help each other prepare for these emergencies. We cannot address every member of our community that might have a functional need.
It would not be possible for us to do that. So we really ask for the community to come together and help each other out. If you know someone, help someone.
Yeah, I would agree with that. We have done a number of emergency preparedness presentations throughout the community already in Camarillo Springs. We have one coming up at Leisure Village here next month that's going to be led by OES and Camarillo PD will be a part of that. A lot of our messaging is, now is the time to start preparing. Now is the time to build those relationships that Carmen talked about with your neighbors, with your friends, with your family members so that you're not making those rushed decisions when the time comes. You have a plan in place now to address those evacuation needs in advance and so that's a big part of our messaging is educating people well in advance to begin preparing well in advance as well.
And how we can have the CCOA assist us is by continuing to message the senior community so they can help by sending the messages to their members, to their volunteers, to the people that they work with. That's how we would best utilize my recommendation would be is help them spread the message for us on what individuals can do to get prepared.
Okay,
thank you.
Mr. Trimbley you had your hand up Thanks Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor Eric actually talked about this but I'm really proud of city staff's efforts to work with the Camarillo Springs community and also with the Leisure Village community and specifically their association, the Leisure Village Association because as we all know there are a lot of folks in Leisure Village who have limited mobility or sadly lack mobility so the association has really gone out and worked on preparedness for this winter.
And city staff has been vital in helping them, and I know there's an event in early November, I think, for Leisure Village. The Camarillo Springs event already occurred. I think one thing that we ought to continue to encourage... Obviously have to encourage self-responsibility but to any extent we can encourage associations that have a substantial senior residency.
And there are a few additional ones in addition to Camp Springs and Leisure Village, I think we ought to reach out to them and provide them with these resources but you bring up a great point and I'm really proud of what city staff has done so far because you're right there are a lot of folks out there with very limited mobility
Thank you for that.
No, thanks for bringing it up.
Sure.
Thank you anybody else? Hearing none thank you very much Commander Tennyson and Mrs. Nichols we will go on to council comments and I don't see anyone jumping up to go Mr. Tremblay.
I didn't jump up Mr. Mayor but I think I must have looked at you at the wrong time anyway all right I'll go ahead and do meetings attended On September 24, I attended the League of California Cities conference in Anaheim. The sessions that I attended included financing economic development and housing infrastructure projects A liability landscape update for California cities.
A very specific presentation on municipal finance law and policy, and then also on construction delivery methods. For example what we know we have coming up with our WRP project and the different procurement methods on that. They were valuable sessions. On September 25 I had a Metrolink board meeting in Los Angeles On September 30, I believe all of us were there for the plaque unveiling for Mike Morgan in Constitution Park. That was a very nice event. And thank you to Mr. Kildee for your comments on October 1 and 2, I also attended the Mobility 21 conference in Orange County.
Mobility 21 is basically set up to provide a platform for both private and public discussion and leadership on development of solutions for transportation issues in Southern California And the sessions I intended included decision-making and the 2028 Olympics preparation, which have been very involved with from a Metrolinx standpoint. On October 8th we...I was lucky enough to tour our phase one project in the Corporation Yard and just a shout out to our staff who did including Mr. Cameron, Ryan everybody who did the design work The work to make those facilities what they should be for our staff. It's really an outstanding effort and a real shout out to Wes in the corporation yard for a barbecue that was...
That was outstanding. There was real privilege to attend on that same day I had a meeting with the CTC staff regarding the Metrolinx budget and then that evening Fine form in that meeting. He was very, very funny in his present. I'm hoping you've got a transcript somewhere on that Mr. Mayor because it was really funny. You did a good job just talking about all the different cities and weaving your remarks.
On October 9th, I'm almost at the finish line of Ventura County Transportation Commission meeting here and a special meeting of the Metrolink board. And then on October 10, I was privileged to emcee the Ventura County Educators Hall of Fame dinner On October 12, a meeting with Metrolinx internal auditor which is a routine meeting. And then today earlier today the CASA Board of Directors and thankfully that's it.
Mr. Kildee.
2:01 – 2:094 turns
Okay, I have a few here. Saturday, I had the privilege September 26 to attend the CSUCI President's Dinner at the University if you get a chance to do it, I highly recommend you do that for some reason there was a lot of mosquitoes there that night. I don't know if folks have realized this. I don't know if it's an El Nino thing but it seems to be a lot of mosquitoes.
There as matter of fact is kind of funny I was sitting next to biology professor and he said geez I think I'd be able to do something about the mosquitoes, but even a biology professor couldn't do it. But nonetheless, it was a great event. I'm really proud of our long-term commitment to CSUCI and ever since the existence there, the city of Camarillo has supported the university and I'm very proud of all that efforts Wednesday September 30th as councilmember Tremblay stated, I attended the unveiling of the Mike Morgan plaque at Constitution Park. It was great to see many of Mike's family members there was a lot of our staff both current and past staff members that attended It was a nice tribute to Mike who had a big heart and as I've said several times before, there'll never be another Mike Morgan.
I want to thank Carmen Nichols and I want to thank Greg I want to thank you all for having a big. Part of this. But especially want to thank all the staff that had a hand in this, but especially John Thomas John I want to thank you for all the work. That you did for this it took us absolutely months. It's been a pleasure to be here with you. You were excellent that night. I can only aspire to be half as funny as you were and factual, as well. So it was a great evening. Congratulations. I know that's a lot of work to put that on and I really appreciate your efforts and the staff that helped you do it, as well.
Also Monday, October 12th I had a public safety and emergency preparedness meeting that I attended. And there's a lot going on, and a lot of really good things. So those are the meetings attended, and those are my comments tonight. Thank you.
You skipped her. I thought you were going to go in order and caught me off guard. Okay, for meetings attended on September 27th, I did the introduction for Laura Dave who is an author for Camarillo Reads at the library It was a full house, so that was a really nice event. On September 30th I too attended the Mike Morgan Memorial and the plaque unveiling. On October 1st I attended a CPA Board of Directors meeting.
On October 6th I had lunch with Councilmember Tremblay and the Director of Airports Keith Freitas On October 8th, it was my turn for the courtyard tour and kudos to the staff. Everything looks great and it really is what the staff deserve. October 8th I attended the VCOG dinner and ditto to the comments about the mayor's speech And last night, I attended the Lions Club and just spoke for about five or ten minutes about what's going on in the city.
What's going on in the council? And they got to ask a bunch of questions. And then earlier today, I sat in on the first of the Healthy Camarillo stakeholder meetings input. So that was great. Yeah, glad to see that getting going. That's all I've got.
Vice Mayor.
Thank you. Wednesday, September 23rd I joined Council out in Anaheim for our California Cities Conference that was from the 23rd until the 25th when we came back and then Saturday September 26th I attended the Sombra Lounge grand opening it's a new coffee shop over on Lantana it was a really wonderful event. I love always celebrating our new businesses in town Saturday, September 26th I also attended the Cal State Channel Islands President's Dinner. It was a wonderful event.
I did get eaten alive by mosquitoes as well but it was well worth it because it was a really wonderful event for the foundation. Monday, September 28th I served as a panelist Utilizing both of my roles as executive director for a nonprofit and also as council member for the city. And this was for Cal Lutheran's Ventura County Nonprofit Sector Report, assessing the financial health and resilience of Ventura County nonprofit sector.
I would love in the future if we could in the near future bring this back to present this information to the full Council it was a good report. Wednesday September 30th I also attended Mike Morgan's unveiling and may he rest in peace. And Saturday, October 3rd, I attended the Central Coast Labor Council dinner. These are the folks who build Ventura County and Senator Monique Limon was there as a keynote speaker And many congrats to Guillermo Luna, Guillermo Ceja sorry from Leuna Local 585. He was honored with a Labor Legacy Award and he's been here at council before October 8th I attended the VCOG annual dinner and thank you very much for your funny speech I enjoyed it as well apparently I'm learning more about your talents that you're bringing to council every day October 12th, I also attended the Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Committee meeting with Councilmember Kildee.
There was a long conversation surrounding Project HOPE and I just really wanted to thank the entire Project HOPE team, Jason Havelka, Lisette, everybody who's involved. I'm really really proud of the work that is being done to attend to the needs of the most vulnerable in our community so from the bottom of my heart big thanks to you all And October 14th, which is today I participated as a panelist at Senator Monique Limon's monthly event.
It's called Ti Con Limón and today was an annual Latino heritage celebration. And I'd like to especially thank Senator Limon for supporting the city of Camarillo with a million dollars for our water pump backup generators. This is a critical infrastructure for fires and as we all know, Fires are year-round now. And I'd also like to especially thank our staff member, Alonso Ramirez for immediately connecting with Senator Limón's office when their staff had reached out to me about this opportunity for funding and so he moved right ahead and submitted the request and we were able to get the $1 million. So definite teamwork very proud of all the work that's being done. Thank you
2:09 – 2:147 turns
Thank you. On November 24th and 25th, I also attended the Cal Cities Conference in Anaheim. I came home on the 25th and attended the West Ventura County Business Alliance Military Appreciation Dinner which as a military veteran is near and dear to my heart to honor our active duty service members from throughout the communities in Ventura County On the 30th, I too attended the Michael D. Morgan commemorative plaque revealing at our band pavilion and it was especially meaningful to see Donna Morgan there because when the crash happened, the news of her injuries It's been a long time coming. The last couple of weeks have sounded very devastating and likely not recoverable and Donna is back in Donna is Donna and it was so so nice to see her there as her husband was honored for all My other council member colleagues have said a lot of past staff that worked here years ago when Mike Morgan was on Council.
So I'm glad we finally got to do it, Kevin thank you for keeping on pushing and thank you to city staff for making that happen. On October 1st through October 3rd I was the guest of the Metropolitan Water District in Cayagas to do a Colorado Aqueduct River inspection tour that started with a bus ride from Vegas to Hoover Dam. And it was an eye-opener for me, even though we don't get a lot of Colorado river water here. The Southland and states south of us in the country of Mexico get water, and as I'm sure we'll hear a little later tonight I heard a comment, whiskeys for drinking, waters for fighting for.
And it's important that we have a huge portfolio of water resources for Southern California which as we all know was a desert until Mr. Mulholland got all of the water from the Owens Valley, and that's when Los Angeles really started growing. It was an eye-opening and informative trip for three days. It was 105, 106 degrees. I couldn't wait to get back to Camarillo, and when I pulled into Camarillo it was 99 degrees, and I thought where the heck am I?
The VCOG annual dinner was last Thursday. The chair of VCOG, that is the location, the city that provides the location and that's where the dinners held and I want to thank all four of my council members for being there in mass to give me the support I needed it was a fun night On this past Monday, October 12th I had the opportunity to take a long boat ride with the Interim President of Cal State Channel Islands, two professors from Channel Islands.
Supervisor Long, the Mayor of Oxnard, the Mayor of Port Hueneme and several staff members from city and county offices to tour the Santa Rosa Island Research Facility that Cal State Channel Islands runs programs out of and has I believe they said since 2013. I didn't realize it. They bring students out there some on just day trips but many on three-day trips A lot of students in environmental sciences, but they run the gamut of every discipline from Cal State Channel Islands to take people out there to introduce them to the island habitat, the nature. And every student that goes out there on a three-day trip is required to do a day of work to help rehabilitate after the fire.
They've been focusing primarily on the Torrey Pines which I didn't realize only grow in two places in the world? Santa Rosa Island and Torrey Pines in San Diego so that was a very interesting an informative trip as well Cal State Channel Islands is doing some wonderful things. Thank you. And with that madam clerk are there any public comments on consent items?
No comments.
Are there any questions from Council?
No.
Hearing none, is there a motion? We have a motion and a second, Madam Clerk.
Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 motion and a second, Madam Clerk.
Show transcript
That passes unanimously
Speaking of water, next up is item O and we will have a presentation by Special Legal Counsel Ryan Bezzera on the groundwater adjudication litigation. Boy say that fast Ryan!
2:15 – 2:301 turns
Good evening, thank you Mister mayor council members. Yes Ryan bizarre from BKS law the city's special Council on. The ground water adjudication and so we're moving into a new phase of the case So when we talk about OPV, what we're talking about is the Oxnard and Pleasant Valley groundwater basins as defined by the state of California. The state has the legal authority to define groundwater basins basically some places in the state are so large We're going to talk a little bit about some of the things that we've been working on. Like Central Valley primarily that if you didn't draw lines in some way other than by geology, you wouldn't have any sort of base and that anybody can manage just be too big. So Ventura County has a number of bases defined We're going to talk a little bit about the Santa Paula basin.
It's right around here on the other side of the Camarillo Hills, it's the Los Poces Basin. Some of these basins have been adjudicated previously the Santa Paula basin there along the river was 10 or 15 years ago. Earlier this year, the OPV adjudication that is ongoing is only Oxnard and Pleasant Valley even though there are connections between multiple of these other basins.
So what is happening exactly? Well, a groundwater adjudication is a lawsuit. It is a giant lawsuit that includes essentially all ground water pumpers in a pretty broad region. There have been any number of these in Southern California dating back to the 1940's at the latest. The San Fernando Basin uphill from you was adjudicated in the 50's through the 70's So these things have happened.
Essentially, though how when the state enacted its sustainable groundwater management plan in 2014 as the state's first statute to govern groundwater management it was pretty clear implementation of that law would probably spawn more And so there is a special law governing adjudications. I'm going to talk a little bit about the ordinance that was adopted by GMA adopted a groundwater allocation ordinance so an ordinance to tell people how much they how much water they could pump.
So in June of 2021, they filed a lawsuit not only to challenge the ordinance but effectively to supersede the ordinance with an adjudication that in theory will tell people how much groundwater they can pump from the Oxnard and Pleasant Valley basins. So that was in June of 2021 we're now in October of 2026 So how's an adjudication work? Most lawsuits, most civil lawsuits are one plaintiff, one defendant. You go at each other, you have one trial case is done pending appeals that an adjudication is just a big lawsuit but it's got so many parties and the issues are so technically complex that they always have been more or less It's a difficult management challenge to figure out exactly how to participate in adjudication because if you participated in every single thing all the time as So these adjudications are divided into phases and the OPV1 is divided that way.
Phase one was to determine safe yield, which is the legal term for basically how much groundwater can you pump sustainably out of a basin? That was concluded last year we're now into phase two which I'll describe more and then eventually we may have a phase three. Phase two is essentially about putting numbers on And so theoretically you might litigate yourself into a management plan.
So as I said phase one was completed last year concerning safe field. Separately the oxnard sub basin, the Pleasant Valley base and the city was only concerned about Pleasant Valley that's where you're located. Other parties negotiated yield numbers we did not agree with so we went to trial on that. We did not prevail. These number as the safe yield set by phase one is 13,750 acre feet per year so in effect That number was set based on some sort of deduction from what might otherwise have been pumped from Pleasant Valley to account for oxnard basin seawater intrusion.
We argued essentially there shouldn't be such a deduction and that there was therefore more water available in Pleasant Valley. We sought immediate review by the appeals courts, essentially it's discretionary for them as to whether they will consider issues in the middle of superior court litigation. They decided not to. That does not mean however the city would be precluded from appealing the phase one decision after a final judgment. The problem with that is a final judgment is years down the road but It is something we have in the back pocket to consider at that point if necessary.
So we are now into phase 2 litigating actual water rights based on the phase, one safe field determinations. We only there was a lot of back and forth and skirmishing about what The first really significant deadline is And then we will proceed into probably further discovery and depositions an expert testimony and all the things that go along with all this. You'll note that the court actually did set a deadline for That will be interesting to see how that comes together. You know there have been settlement discussions as I understand it.
No one is close to settlements at this point, but a mediation in a water right phase of I've participated in a couple of them. It's not like you're talking to the mediator every single day, but the one that successfully settled the Santa Maria Basin adjudication up the coast in San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara counties, that mediation took about six months. So what exactly is involved in a phase 2. What does it mean for The city has you know various rights it can claim.
The most basic one which cities claimed throughout the state when forced to do so in these cases is what's called an appropriate of right. So that's what cities do so cities claim an appropriate of right and when you have a basements overdrafted it can become what's called the prescriptive right. Which essentially equalizes the priority with landowners we will probably be asserting that and then the city of course has its North Pleasant Valley groundwater desalter which is physically pumping essentially a different source of water than most any other groundwater pumpers because what the purpose of the desalter is to remove the salty water And you know, we think the city has a good water right claim based on that. Others may disagree but we think it's pretty strong so What's the other side of this who's going to argue against you?
The primary issue will be of course Farmers who have pumped groundwater to grow crops on their lands they have what's called an overlying right just meaning you can pump groundwater and They're going to be asserting that. As of the phase you know the court declared there there was an overdraft so there wasn't enough water go around so we probably will have to deal with those landowner claims.
This adjudication may be the most complex one that has ever been litigated in the state of California. And that's because of the sheer volume of supplemental water and supplemental water projects that have been implemented here, you know it's been pretty well known for a long time The intensity of water use in these basins has required supplemental water sources. And so you have among other supplemental water sources coming in, you have State Water Project water imported through Metropolitan Water District coming from the Bay Delta that comes in the city uses that we call it Cayugas water locally. You have United Water Conservation District You can see on that map some of that water moves around to farmers via the pipelines. So you You have a water district that serves the city.
Oxnard does that some degree you have. Cameo, a water district your neighbor who serves part of the city they have their canal Creek project which is if you're driving on one oh one out of 1000 their diversion is just south of the highway. There were the highway crosses canal Creek they divert surface To some degree, what we attorneys call in lieu recharge meaning somebody who used to pump groundwater doesn't pump anymore. So the basin comes up so people sometimes you claim that increment of rise as a right and in lieu right.
So this adjudication involves a level of this sort of supplemental water that I don't know has existed in any other adjudication to date. And there will be some fighting about who gets what rights and supplemental water. So, you know, I described a pretty linear process from here to the phase two trial in April 2028. Things could change. In particular, that schedule has one trial There are some parties who think that a single trial with absolutely everybody in the case going at each other one time in one trial is the way to do it.
It's distinctly possible, it will be sliced up in some form or another. It might be that you litigate some types of water right claims separately from other types of water right claims. One possibility is the Pleasant Valley Basin and the Oxnard Basin could be split Given that the phase one decision declares separate safe fields for the 2 basins. That's a possibility and one possibility is one base or the other could reach a settlement and the other base and not.
And so you might end up with a much simpler sort of trial That's that's possible. No single settlement usually is a complete one. Usually there's some outliers or maybe people who just didn't sign or whatever it is and so you have to have what we attorneys call a prove up trial, meaning that the parties assigned the settlement go in and say this is how we think things should be done.
Anybody who disagrees come on in and you get your shot in court. So one base from the other might have something like that happen We don't know yet, but that schedule could get somewhat more complicated in that things could be divided up somehow. So that's where we are and happy to answer any questions.
2:30 – 2:3621 turns
Any questions? Of course, Mr. Kildee.
Ryan, thanks for being here. Sure. I have one question. I'm going to ask you to use your crystal ball because you've been doing this so long even though you're a very young man. Tell my knees. Does the complexity of water Questions and or lawsuits. Does that equate to longer court? What I'm trying to get is does complexity equate to longer trials that we have to deal with this stuff? Is there a correlation?
Absolutely, absolutely. So these adjudications historically have taken 10-15 years to resolve The Santa Maria adjudication, a little further north was originally filed in 1997. And the final Court of Appeal decision was in 2012. We represent Templeton Community Services District in San Luis Obispo County, which was sued by another group of landowners who were unhappy with pumping restrictions and well drilling restrictions. Excuse me, restrictions in San Luis Obispo County.
They filed something like an adjudication in 2013. We are just about done in the Superior Court 13 years later with possible appeals. So the complexity of these cases and the sheer volume of parties leads them to sort of mushroom in time, and so they are a challenge in many ways but one of the ways they're really challenges trying to figure out how to manage your resources over that course of time to really hit the issues you care about and not invest everything I sort of think of these things as sort of a spinning top.
You know, it's got a momentum to it. It's going, going, going and sometimes your job is just to poke it in the direction you want it to go at the right time and so that's what we're trying to do.
So within that realm Is it steady as she goes, is it business as usual? Everybody kind of stays within the realm that's been set years in advance. As we shepherd our efforts through this process, is that how
it works? No, we're always trying to seek the best advantage for the city and all of this. And sometimes the best advantage for the city is try to shorten something so we don't fight about everything because Sometimes the city doesn't need to fight about one issue or another. The critical thing is to maintain focus, eyes on the prize. What is the route to get the city the groundwater pumping right it needs?
And so within this realm we just carry on with our allocation as it is right now. Is that kind of how it works?
Well right now you live in a world defined by Fox Canyon allocations And so you have to continue doing business that way. And then hopefully we align those allocations with this adjudication as much as possible.
Okay,
that's
all thanks for being here. Appreciate it.
Absolutely. Any other council member with questions?
No questions.
Thank you very much. Thank you, Ryan. Appreciate it. Thank you. Have a good evening. Madam Clerk, are there any public comments?
Yes sir. We have one speaker Spencer Ritchie.
She left the chambers a long time ago is she still out there?
Nope
she's not here that's it all right council discussion Seeing none, this is receive and file. Thank you very much. And now we are going to honor former council member and two-time mayor Sandy Bush before recessing to closed session I would like to take a moment to recognize and honor the memory of Sandy Bush, who served as a City Council member from 1982-1989.
She holds the historical distinction of being the first woman to serve twice as Mayor of Camarillo in 1985 and again in 1988. Following her council service she remained actively involved in civic and arts related efforts in the community. In 1991, she chaired the Constitution Park Committee and advocated for the park next to City Hall to be renamed Constitution Park.
She also participated in a renovation of the park including the circular walkway and adjacent lighting that we have today. So following the conclusion of our closed session, the Council will adjourn this meeting in honor of former council member and former two-time mayor Sandy Bush.
You may make a quick comment. The energizer bunny she was very very energetic in her in her job as a council member Nick and a female Council member which she was and should have been very proud.
Thank you. And with that madam city attorney do you have anything to report from the 04 PM closed session,
yeah just indicate that in close session we did talk about the 2 existing litigation matters recess into the closed session to discuss the real property negotiations and if there's any reportable action I'll make that report.
And with that we will recess into closed session