BodyArts Commission
MeetingRegular Meeting
Date📅 March 19, 2026

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Pledge of Allegianceceremonial · click to expand
ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role0:00

Let's pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role0:17

And I just have to send a little hope for peace to the world.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed0:31

Sorry, we're in commission right now. We cannot speak outside of it. Sorry

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role0:36

that's okay Thank you Well, we have a agenda minutes or later so the agenda today has two items and Any Is everyone okay with that All in favor? Aye. Opposed? None. So we'll run with our agenda, all right. We have this presentation so we'll call it a public comment. Yes I would like- do we have anything besides this one? Okay. I would like to call our illustrious new CEO of the Ojai Chamber of Commerce to make a public comment and is Carla Ferranti Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed1:27

you, Chair West and commissioners and the Arts Commission in general. I appreciate this opportunity to speak to you on behalf of the Ojai Valley Chamber of Commerce. I had the opportunity to start working with the chamber in May of last year And now we're hitting full stride, and we recently are making an endeavor and initiative to embrace the creative economy of Ojai and help not just sustain and support our local artists but develop that sector in general. So I just wanted to share with you briefly that part of the Chamber's mission. Obviously, we're here to support our existing businesses and help develop and diversify our economy but also enrich the life and lifestyle of our local residents. And arts in creative culture is so much integral to that, that we see that as part of the chamber's mission.

So to that end we recently had a creative economy workshop and thanks to Chair West and all of you for joining us We were able to put together a collaborative list of what might be some endeavors of the community at large Taken on by both the chamber, the city, and also the local residents as well. So for the chambers part of that equation I wanted to let you know that in consultation with Chair West The chamber on March 31st has asked for an agenda item with City Council to ask the city of Ojai to make a proclamation that April will be recognized as Arts and Culture and Creativity Month, which mirrors activities with the California for the Arts at the state level. So we will be making that foray and I'll be meeting tomorrow with the liaisons from the city council to the chamber which are Mayor Gilman and Rachel Wing on that regard.

And then the next point of information for you is that the Chamber is moving ahead with a recommendation that came forward in the Creative Economy Workshop from the artists themselves looking for a Maiden Ojai distinction. And so, in conversations with city staff we now have the green light to have the Maiden Ojai distinction and we're going to very visibly cement that at Ojai Day. We will be doing things between now and Ojai Day, but Ojai day probably will have the most concrete visibility across a whole city in the following regard. We're going to as the chamber take responsibility for the display for Ojai day between North Ventura Avenue and Signal Street So that corridor right in front of the Playhouse and El Roblar and Rory's in the library, we're going to create an outdoor art gallery.

Hopefully with everyone else's support, display of the art, and also some of our handmade artisan vendors that have been working with The Chamber in Libbey Park on regular occasion. So that will be a sizable footprint and distinction for the rest of the vendor booths in Ojai Day. So between the proclamation made in Ojai, and then also when we have our regular Libbey Park City events that the Chamber organizes, we'll be creating an artist corner. We'll call it the Artist Nook. And we're going to invite artists to display their works during those events. So that's kind of a first come first serve but we just want to make sure we're adding that footprint into every opportunity the Chamber can identify at this time. So, that's what we've done since we last saw you at the Creative Economy Workshop.

Let me know if you have any questions in regards to the chamber or future endeavors or recommendations. Thank you.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role4:56

Thank you. Yes? Anyone can ask a question.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed4:59

Yeah, I have a couple of questions. First, it is contemplated that the city is going to own the trademark not the Chamber of Commerce?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:10

The Chamber of Commerce is gonna identify the logo. We're not gonna actually own the trademark but we're gonna identify the program and then our expectation is maybe the rightful place for it would be with the Arts Commission so we're gonna lay the

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:23

groundwork

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:25

and whichever time it comes to rest in the correct location

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed5:29

And is somebody going to police this? In regards to police? To make sure that if it's just the logo, that people from outside Ojai aren't using it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed5:41

So the chamber for the near term would be the only one using the logo and we would just be inviting people to participate in those platforms so the logo would be just used on the signage or the flyers at the chamber produces and then artists would come within that umbrella

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:00

Well,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed6:01

so the artists themselves wouldn't be using the logo on their individual works or their websites

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:05

really

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed6:06

right for the near term

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed6:08

Okay. I would think that it would be better if You meted out the logo to people who actually produce things in Ojai, and they can brand their products that way. And then we could police it and make sure that people know it really did come from Ojai. So I would look a little further on than just letting people know.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed6:33

I appreciate your suggestion. I don't think the chamber would take that initiative on because we're not versed as well as yourselves in the artist community, so we would love to do that in partnership with you if that works for you. Okay. Wonderful. Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed6:47

I have a question. I gave you one of these at the Creative Economy. Excuse my voice. I would like to make sure that you connect with the Ojai Studio Artists. We're a network of 75 artists here in the Valley, and it's a resource that sometimes gets overlooked.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed7:04

Yeah, we absolutely would and our plan is They have a membership that I think had been overlooked But we'd like to talk with them in a little bit further in the regards that we recently did a winter wine walk in February We're going to be doing wine walks every quarter So we'd like to integrate an art element into one of those wine walks in collaboration with yourselves. So we'll look forward to that conversation Thank you

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed7:35

This is exciting Carla, thank you. I just want to reiterate what Bradley said and I think probably Bridget this will have to go to the city and the City Manager but we'll need sophisticated trademark counsel to make all of this happen it can't otherwise we lose our Trademark as we know, we already have by virtue of cars and cookies But what you're doing is wonderful. And so thank you for that It's good to kind of feel this initiative and I can't wait for April art month. There we go Wonderful. Thank you

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role8:16

Can you tell us a little more about the April event were you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed8:22

We have two events on behalf of the city in April. The first one is the Ojai Pixie Tangerine Celebration and we've extended an invitation to the Pixie Chorus to join us in that event. With every event that we have contracted with the city, we're trying to integrate the artists in all realms. And then the event on April 18th is a little bit further afield in regards that it's canine focused. So Ojai in the last four years had Puppy Love Concert in which we would try and help the Humane Society have dogs adopted. And we've broadened that now. It's now called Tales, Trails and Puppy Love. So there is still a concert but we have a 1K and a 3K but now it's all things dogs and that includes dog authors so we're having dog authors that are homegrown from Ojai come and read their books to the children with their dogs people are going to be walking with their dogs.

So any kind of creativity that we can integrate into that we will be doing so In conjunction and for the ultimate financial benefit for the Humane Society So that's what we have so far for April

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role9:35

Any other questions for Carla well Carla, thanks for being here and I want to do thank you again for that Oh, yes, please. Just go ahead

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed9:44

Can you say a little bit more about the outdoor gallery that is going to be at Ojai Day? Are you just have an open call for artists or what's the jury process going to be like for that?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed9:55

I can't speak to that yet because I just came up with the concept on Monday. Okay, and I always like to integrate any suggestions or recommendations from yourself. I usually tap poor Smitty for his input on it So might just my initial concept would be like outdoor carpeting that looks as oriental as I can get it and truthfully for it to be a true outdoor gallery as one would expect like near the Louvre or something like this and And then we do have to have some vendor booths in between so if I can get that vendor display To not be your typical 10 by 10 white pop-up, you know just something that it has a congruity to the look and And really for the artists to be able to interact with the public and speak to their work. So Any recommendations you have in terms of who can help with the during and elements such as that?

We'd greatly invite that help

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role10:49

And this will go before council the last meeting of March. Is that right? Yes, and so it'll sort of be law So we'll jump right in and have some fun with anything

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed10:58

It's just gonna mention that there's a second Saturday open studios April 11th Which is Oak View and I know its Miramonte

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed11:07

Okay, and we can advertise that in conjunction with the Pixie Festival great would be great. Thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed11:13

So Carla, we over the past year have invited nonprofit organizations to come talk to us meaning to the community about what they do and why and what their former and future plans are. And so we appreciate that you are in public comment, but we'd be delighted maybe after April to invite you back again for a formal presentation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed11:37

We'd

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed11:38

love

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed11:39

that. Thank you. Appreciate the invitation.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed11:41

Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed11:42

you.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role11:43

I wanted to thank you for that breakfast that you did. Most of this Commission was there The city manager was there. The mayor was there Several other council people were there a representative from the county was there and our kind of arts lobbyists Tracy Was there sort of representing Sacramento and so it was Bravo, I mean that to me That was a level of involving Kind of government and planning in the chamber that I haven't seen in my 30 years here at the Chamber. So I really I hope that the message, I can see that at first maybe chamber members would see oh that's for the artists in the chamber or the galleries or something like that. But the real message that I think came across and I hope the business community hears in Ojai is that being creative in your business goes far beyond Painting something or making or singing a song.

All right, it's it's the it's the future and there's support from the government to make that happen so thank you for bringing some intelligent and Cogent and informative Proceedings Matt Levere did send a Think it was Council council person Rachel that told me the Matt Levere did sent his Appreciation for that having occurred and he had his representative there as well And so he's very excited to to partner with us as we move forward on that So thanks for taking the lead because you move things faster than weekend

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 2Proposed13:26

our pleasure. Thank you so much.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role13:28

Okay, thank you All right I am going to move on to our consent, which is really just one item. I mean our consent calendar, which is just one item. It was a minute from last meeting we're all caught up now isn't this fun? I'll first ask if we have any amendments.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed13:54

I have a couple.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role13:56

Surprise.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed13:59

Madam Secretary had a few typos here, I'd like to put into record before they are approved. The first one is under approval of agenda chair West made motion with second by and I'd like to include Vice Chair Steiner so I'm going to add that And then later, I have Tabak Bank's name a typo there on future agenda items. Commissioner Tabak Banks are going to be changing that K to an H and then somehow this Vice Chair Wright asked for discussion on how AC can oversee and obviously that's Commissioner Wright

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed14:49

I

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role14:49

Was gonna thank you for that

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed14:53

No idea how that got in there gremlins And other than that, I think

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed15:00

It's clear.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role15:02

Yeah So Bradley was the only

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed15:05

with those amendations. I so move

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role15:10

Any other changes I'll second that motion Whose motion? Your movement. All in favor?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed15:18

Aye.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role15:20

All opposed? We're good, Bridget?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed15:27

We are good.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role15:29

All right, let's move on to our discussion items. I did want to point out it's wonderful to have the minutes coming in up-to-date now because I actually used sort of this Our future agenda item kind of capture, you know to kind of move things ahead, you know during Because you know spurred on by the actual minutes of what we talked about too And so this item in fact was on a future agenda item and here it is Yes commissioner

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed15:55

I did a little bit more detail in these minutes than required, but I think it sounds like you liked

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role16:03

having

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed16:03

those.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role16:04

Sounds like we read it not as closely as you, but...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed16:07

Okay. I'll make sure to do that in the future.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role16:09

Take back as an H. I'll remember that forever now. Okay. So you'll find an administrative report from me and I believe it was Commissioner Tabak-Bank and or Commissioner Wright that suggested this Ojai poster thing. And in talking with staff, I felt like the best thing that we could do here because Rather than, we haven't been directly asked by council to do this but I know that we have supported council to get involved in all things art as it describes the final part of our duties as a commission.

All things art and Ojai and there was a time when the Ojai Day poster was a significant kind of community builder thing with Contest and applicants and advertising, and so it was part of our strategic planning in a five year plan in the past as well. So after COVID and decimation that happened to everything including Ojai Day as its crawling back here now I had been informally asked by Christy Rivera from the Parks and Rec. She's the parks and rec manager for suggestions like a Month or two months before oh, hi day a couple years ago in all too so I think the best way to word this is as you'll see in the recommendation in the report to recommend that the City Council authorize the Arts Commission to participate in and support.

We have it down here as a contest, I'm not sure I might take the word contest out of there because that may or may not be what it is. It was a contest, but I'd like to make it sort of bigger than a contest. I would like to have some discussion about that and use this as a communication item to continue to show the community what the Arts Commission is doing and what other material kind of outflows from that and just having a poster hanging up. You know, it may involve us taking They have posters from most of the years, I think hanging over there at Sarasota Park. You know maybe this becomes a part of our city collection or something like that and all too and there's someone here too so I think this could be you know Ojai Day and the Arts Commission you know could be I think they would welcome our help over there.

So, I neither want to stick my nose in parks and rec business but be here and recommend a council that we offer our expertise to make the Ojai Day poster a significant thing. There was some discussion here that I'd welcome just discussion from the Commission. Selection process or you can read the list here too, but I'll say it anyways broader outreach to the youth community groups Promote it through our networks and strengthen cities Commission to local creativity as part of Oh, yes Pamela

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed19:19

So that was an incentive for people to get down with it and get creative Mm-hmm

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed19:36

Is there any reason to believe there's not prize money anymore? I think there is. It's a contest and somebody wins. And they win a small, I think it was a very small amount of money.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed19:49

I am not aware of any prize money this year,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed19:52

like $50 or

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed19:53

well it was four hundred dollars in years past.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed19:56

Yeah but obviously your poster is reproduced and put up against around town that's obviously the biggest prize.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role20:04

Contest with prizes maybe honorable mentions and you know ribbons and stuff. I'd like to do again just well please Christine

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed20:15

I don't want to nitpick, but I seem to consistently nitpick. So I have a few questions about this report. The first relates to Park and Rec's quote operational responsibility for the contest. How did that come about or has Parks and Rec always administered the program? Because if the underlying assumption here is that parks and rec should run it, which is what seems to be the understanding. I just want to know A, when and how that came about? And B, is it appropriate

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed21:02

It is actually kind of collaboration between the events coordinator, Christy Rivera and now the parks manager, Christy Rivera. So she's kind of pushing it into Parks and Recs at the same time because they actually run the streets and do all the setups and help doing so. Parks and Recs is very much involved in Ojai Day itself but the poster I think maybe just got handed to them after COVID like you said.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed21:29

I suspect that's true. Well,

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role21:33

I can tell you what I know because I used to be a vendor in the arts for Ojai Day and they actually hired a third party For ten years, I'm sorry it's Sam's wife. Well anyway But they paid a consultant to run Ojai Day and there was a budget I think in the tens of thousands of dollars for Ojai day now It's down to like five or

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed21:58

ten. And as a portion of this outsourced Work these people determine the poster or some

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role22:08

no, I may have even been to the Arts Commission way back when

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed22:13

I would like to I mean, I don't want to undo the process here But I think we need to send this back to rewrite and I say that because I'd like to know whether it's the events responsibility or park and recs and I also don't agree with the recommendation that the Arts Commission would participate in and support. I'd prefer that it is to support and provide expertise concerning, but because we don't understand the predicate assumption here, and that is who's running this, I'd like to send this back to rewrite.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role22:50

Well there has been no, I do know there has been no contest since COVID, since it restarted.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed22:58

There have been posters.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role22:59

They've had posters, but I mean one of them they called me and said you know an artist and I Recommend an artist and he turned something in they made the poster from it I mean this is

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed23:08

even more to the point that we need to We need

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed23:11

to have this handled within the city does run an ad at the newspaper for the contest So there is an actual contest Last year they turned him in at parks and recs So I'm not sure how the contest is judged or who, how they're picked but it is noticed in the paper.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed23:29

Okay well then I think we need more information before we can review a recommendation.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role23:34

Uh-huh. Well look could you have some discussion around what that would look like or what else do we need to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed23:40

include? I just want to say that I have seen notices for the Ojai Day poster since COVID and have told people to submit. So, you know, I brought this forward. I think that the Arts Commission should be in charge of it. And then Parks and Rec can, you know, administer where they're hanging these things up when Winter has announced the logistical things that intertwine with their Ojai Day planning. But the actual art part of it, the Arts Commission should...

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role24:30

Well maybe I can re-steer this discussion and talk about is this—I don't—I neither want to take something away from someone who's like attached to it nor Walk in saying we're the experts we want to do this, you know the poster at all too. So I so III'd love some advice just on recommending how Looks like

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed24:53

you do have a public comment. So before you make any motions or

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role24:56

Yeah, oh, I'm sure I just

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed24:58

want to make sure that they got before you made

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role25:00

your ah, thank you. You're welcome Should I have done this already? Do it now do it now. All right. Oh, let's do a public comment from Debbie. Yeah Debbie Cutler

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed25:12

So what I wanted to suggest is there's a great word that you could include along

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role25:15

with contest, which would

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed25:16

be a poster presentation. It's like a

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role25:20

celebration and

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed25:21

contest so that Everybody's a winner in that there would be a space for all the posters that were presented for the contest could be displayed. So you could call it a celebration and an opening, and then that night if that was the appropriate thing somebody would be announced as a winner. And that person, you know there might be a runner-up and maybe they'd be I don't know free pass to an Ojai Playhouse play or something. In other words acknowledging The second and third. So I just think it'd be kind of fun to run it as a contest, and I love the idea of including Parks and Rec and getting, yeah is this important to you or has this been a pain in the You know, that you don't want to have a participation and how do you wanna be involved and where is that money legislated and reposed for the contest.

So I just, I love the word celebration and contest, you know? So just wanted to recommend that and also to have a sense of a gallery display where it would then be acknowledged in the media as well and picked up. And that's it. I've been a teacher at USC in screenwriting and I taught art at the County Art Museum, and my whole life has been dedicated to healing and arts. So it just sort of sounds like how do we celebrate our peeps so they can feel seen and heard?

And then another suggestion might be, is there a theme for this year? Like does the art council want to have it Ojai in healing or Ojai in peace or Ojai and community. Is there something that we wanna put in there as a word to inspire the artists? Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed27:21

Oh, don't go away yet. I wanted to come in. We're going to give

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed27:24

you a job.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed27:24

Right. These are—well, I'm not going to give

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed27:27

you a

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed27:27

job.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed27:28

It's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed27:28

okay.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed27:29

I'm not going to take your job just so you know.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed27:32

Very wise. I think these are great suggestions. Celebration, a gallery display, a theme. I think these are great, great ideas. And actually, to me it reinforces what I suggested earlier which is let's table this. It's not ready for prime time. I think we can provide suggestions for you but I agree we have to speak with Park and Rec and get a sense of whether they want to own this or they don't. It seems that it came to Park and Rec.

Supervision because it really belongs in events. But but clearly we're not ready for prime time here and I move that we table this Okay,

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed28:12

can I make one more comment? That is an artist some artists take a while to generate art So just what would be lead time would also be Important so the artists have you know two months to generate Number of ideas that they then can themselves choose the best ones. So thank you again Thank you for all the great work My question

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed28:34

is, is there any kind of an honorarium or anything that goes to the person whose work

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed28:38

is chosen?

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 7Proposed28:51

I love the idea. It's a motive, it's an incentive. I think that's the contest prize money but I think calling it an honorarium is a great idea frankly rather than a prize money just saying we're honoring you know I think that's great and everybody is honored it's just there's somebody who stands out to get something for yeah I think so that's right

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role29:14

Thank you, Debbie. You're going to hear from us. There's no motion to withdraw here and I will say table this but it may be that we can accomplish a lot of this without a formal motion or vote here in talking to Council and all too. But I just wanted to collect any other Commissioner suggestions because the celebration, the contest, the gallery theme A regular cycle, you know when we want to go to them and kind of give them our ideas

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed29:44

I think there is a theme Every year. Yeah And I think that there's very low turnout on the artwork that is put out Which is why I thought we should start heading this up so we can really make it a much more robust process.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role30:04

Sort of like everyone's temperature room, do we have the bandwidth for this? I would think we did you know We can direct this or form committees You know like we have in the past for other things that involve the community

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed30:14

I think it's great. I definitely think we should be involved in it, and thank you Karina for bringing it up and thank you Smitty for bringing it forward but I think we definitely should be a part of the Ojai Day poster.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role30:26

So yeah beautiful. I'm going to just liaison Rachel you can expect that you'll be hearing about us and Absolutely, we it looks like a great opportunity for the creative economy thing to get talked about in the valley and And just want to make sure we do it in a way that's helping staff at the same time

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed30:48

Is the motion to move this item to a future agenda? There was a motion we can't get

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role30:53

a second to make it forever Do you guys want a motion? Yeah, okay. Let's say you want to try it or do

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed30:59

you want me to

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed31:11

You

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role31:12

make a motion that we We have a discussion with the our stakeholders which are Council members artists community staff and come up with a formal suggestion to council for The involvement of the Arts Commission with the Ohai day poster Thank you Just make sure Think you got that discussion

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed31:44

We need an

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role31:45

amendment

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed31:46

we need an amendment to that and parks and recreation

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role31:51

Okay Have

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed31:54

a discussion with City Council members artists communities staff but Parks and Recreation Yeah, okay Ready

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed32:11

I think we're ready for a vote. Okay,

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role32:13

all in favor?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed32:13

Yes. Aye. Okay good perfect thank you.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role32:17

Nice good thank you I think that's a good way to handle it we could do a lot we don't have to do a howl hole here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed32:23

Can I make a comment? Where is Whitney?

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role32:26

Go ahead.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed32:31

It seems like this fits right in with what Carla was just talking about, how the Chamber of Commerce wants to do more events. So it seems like they could have a very opportune moment to display all these Ojai Day

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role32:46

posters. Beautiful. Well we'll be talking with the chamber all throughout this. I think it's a great way to push a couple things ahead Simultaneous. All right, so that was uh, that's it on Do we have any public comments on the next item? Mural stuff. I'm gonna turn this part of the meeting over to vice chair Steiner to discuss the Thank

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed33:20

you, so You've heard me speak about this before There was a mural jury called on the mural application of Pixie's General Store. The mural was held on March 10th, the jury is comprised of seven members and those are a representative from the Arts Commission, a representative from Planning or Historic Preservation in this case it was planning because The venue is not of historic nature.

Two arts professionals, a member of the community and artist and the applicant herself. The mural jury was called to order. I sort of gave part of the background and as a preliminary matter confirmed that there would be no signage on the mural itself as it had appeared In some of the earlier iterations, the applicant agreed. The chair who was Barbara Hirsch a former arts commissioner went through the qualifications identified in the criteria and these are whether the artist is qualified, the aesthetics of the mural, whether it's appropriate for the architecture, the kind of paint to be used the wall upon which it would be placed, whether or not it was of an historic nature, the appropriateness for the setting and whether there were any limitations.

The jurors all discussed robustly each of these in turn and brought to you the findings of the jury that the recommendation for you to approve, reject or approve with conditions is to approve it with certain conditions which I will ask Bridgette to read into the record.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed35:37

Condition number one, do not add business names to the mural pursuant to Ohio Municipal Code 4-16.303. Condition number two, background will remain the same color as it is currently and will not be painted white as it is shown in the application images. Condition number three, use of the approved paint pursuant to Ojai Municipal Code 4-16.305D and be coded with the city approved anti graffiti application.

Condition number four, the downspout will be considered the right side boundary of the mural to separate the mural from the rest of the building as well as the existing business name on the window. Condition number five, the mural artist may sign and date the mural at their discretion with a suggested placement being at the bottom right corner of the mural.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed36:34

Thank you Bridgette and so with those conditions the jury unanimously recommended to you the Arts Commission that you approve this mural subject to the conditions and so I will make that motion

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed36:53

We do have a raised hand. We need to get public comment first.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed37:02

And as we take that public comment, I want to note also that one of the obligations in the statute is that the applicant be present for this public hearing at which you are determining whether or not to approve the application, and it should be noted that the applicant is online. The applicant is the one who has her hand raised. And we will hear from the applicant now. So with that, Whitney...

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed37:30

Go ahead, Whitney. Unmute please.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed37:39

Whitney fell asleep. Whitney, you need to unmute.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed37:47

Whitney, you need to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed37:49

unmute.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed38:03

She has permission to speak she just needs to unmute.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed38:07

But for the record, we note that she actually is online. So that satisfies the requirements of statute? Yes.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role38:13

So I did second that motion so we can have some discussion on this. I was present because I was on the so a lot of interesting stuff. So please fire away

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed38:22

what we're seeing online. The background's painted white, but it would not be white. It would correct.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed38:27

Correct. It's to be the same color as it currently is, which is sort of a beige That's what I thought might be the case. Thank you for that.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed38:45

Ida, do you know what might be the problem?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed38:53

Let me see if I could figure it out over here.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed38:57

We

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed39:02

can

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role39:02

have some discussion or questions until that works out. Yes, Commissioner. Right. I think they'll figure it out.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 8Proposed39:15

She's just muted, I've asked her to unmute but it looks like the other person online can speak for Whitney.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed39:24

Can you hear me? You

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role39:25

can hear that person.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed39:27

Go ahead, Elizabeth. Yes. Hi, Elizabeth from Forge Ojai. This is actually Whitney and I are both in this and putting this together. I don't know what Whitney was going to say so I'm sorry but it just asked me to unmute. So that's why I unmuted.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed39:46

Great do you want to say anything?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 9Proposed39:49

Yeah, this is actually one of my arrangements that we want to have painted on the building. We feel that like my shop is kind of hidden in the back so for a year now I've wanted to kind of bring awareness and something beautiful into that space and Whitney loved the idea We talked to several artists, we talked to local artists and just couldn't find one to meet my arrangement and do it in the way that I wanted. And also our price point And then Stephanie, who comes up to Ojai a lot. She is the artist and she's fine arts which is a little more in my style and she was able to replicate this arrangement perfectly for us so we both fell in love with it.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed40:48

Thank you for that. And, you know, the mural jury did unanimously agree that the mural is beautiful. So thank you for pointing that out. Great. Bridget,

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role41:04

do we hear from Whitney or

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed41:06

is at the end? Yeah, she's she has permission to talk just like Elizabeth. I don't know why she's not able to, but she did say that Elizabeth made her point so

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role41:16

good. Please go ahead. Open questions to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed41:22

Christine. I'm curious, Vice Chair Steiner how the jury reconciled the opposition of the mural to the Pixies logo aesthetically?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed41:40

Yes, that's a good question. So you see—and we can see it on the image in front of us—that the Pixies logo is in the window and so the determination was made that the downspout would form the right side of the boundary of the mural And also it's going to be, so that was recognized in one of the conditions. But we're also going to get an actual, and this was Chair West suggestion, an actual numeric feet and inches distance from the window. So that we know exactly where it is if the downspout should ever fall.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed42:30

Christine, this is a different picture in our packet than what's on.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role42:35

Yes. None of them speak to the ones that you have. That is

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed42:40

correct. So this is what I understand to be the one that has been approved. The background will not be white as I mentioned earlier it will be the same beige as the extant wall So I made a motion, I believe we had a second.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role43:08

No other discussion?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed43:11

Your obligation at this point is to approve, disapprove or approve with conditions upon the conditions.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role43:21

If I recall, they said this is the closest to what? We don't expect them to duplicate this exactly or how?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed43:30

No it

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role43:31

was digitally

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed43:31

created. I think we can expect that it will be as-is. Cropped like that? At the bottom yes.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role43:46

Because when the background changes, they may need to mix them. We hope the artists would feel

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed43:54

like have

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role43:55

the right to make what

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed43:56

we see there and again, they have the approval to include the artist's name and date or not as the artist so chooses that would be the only material variation on what is before you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed44:17

I mean, back to this Pixies General Store logo being adjacent to this mural. Everybody's fine with that? Because it is confusing. It looks like it's a mural for

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed44:31

Pixies General Store. The jury evaluated that question and unanimously determined that there was enough of a distinction between the mural and the logo so that it satisfied the requirements of the statute, which is that commercial identifiers not be upon the mural. That was expressly teased out and discussed. I'm sure, because it is a unique situation.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role45:00

Yeah we talked about that and I think you know picture that if the store—remember the owner is not the Pixies, Steve Springer's the owner—and if the store was to change then you know might say Acme Fireworks in the future or something but it would still remain this floral sort of pattern you know? Yeah, we looked at that and talked about that. There was some feedback in the community and social media that I read so I just want to acknowledge that the public appropriately was questioning a non-resident artist And I guess the points are one it's not It's not up to us to choose the artist, but it is up to the admiral jury's approval of the artist. And we did acknowledge that she had some close ties to Ojai and she has a beautiful resume and the price point is not a competitive thing.

She gave a huge discount from $10,000 down to $2,500 so the jury looked at all these

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed46:03

And I want to make a point that I think is very important here. I neglected to make it earlier, but I think it's central and that is this is a private work of art on a private building in a private setting. Unlike, for example, COPPA where we the city are acquiring either a work of public art or some—or a two-dimensional work for our city collection. Here we have very limited authority. It's more akin to zoning authority than it is to acquisition determination. And so while the points you made are interesting and certainly the jury did go through these and tease these out, to some extent it exceeds our authority under the statute.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed46:55

Does the building owner have the right to paint over it if he chose to?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed47:01

Well, the statute addresses that and the and I don't know the answer because that's not before me. I can look it up. But

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed47:12

it seems like if it's private property and it's being privately sponsored

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed47:16

I think the answer is yes. One thing I know in the statute is that if there's maintenance, that sort of falls under our general approval. However, if it's to be painted over and a new mural were to appear, they couldn't do that without coming back before the mural jury process.

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ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role47:43

Any other questions? I was pleased that we were able to respond to this within three months. And my thanks to the staff for turning it from, we couldn't do a remote public meeting in a parking lot, to we could in about a week! So thank you to Liaison Bridget and it was really a great community kind of gathering, efficiently run by Vice Chair Steiner and unanimous.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed48:14

Bridget do you want to try Whitney again before we take our vote? Just in case she has something to say.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed48:25

Whitney are you still there? Are you able to unmute?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed48:38

Thank you, thank you interpreter.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role48:41

All right so I'm gonna call for a vote unless someone stops me. Let's let's do a voice whatever roll call on this one.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed48:52

Okay all in favor? Aye. Opposed?

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role49:05

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed49:05

Motion passes.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role49:08

Thank you, Whitney and Steve. Thank you for putting together that beautiful jury. It's a great opportunity for the public to get involved in the creative economy is to serve on one of our ad hoc or juror committees or juries. I think we're off to some reports Commissioner Steiner, Public Art.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed49:40

Yes, okay.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role49:41

Great. Thank you got something to say

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed49:43

oh yes I do thank you. I have been busy with a mural jury as as you know And thank you all again for for that I just want to note that and I've said it before but coming before council will be a budget request for conservation of the big red roller at the skate park and there is one Aspect to that. I'd like to have city staff consider and also our Council liaison to consider and bring back and that is I certainly agree with the Creative economy what I'd like to suggest is that that can be extended to the creative pipeline And so what I mean, is that?

The Public Works Department could designate one of the employees to Shadow our paid conservator. These people make a lot of money, these are great jobs and someone who is interested in art or is interested in stuff, in things could shadow the conservator could learn how one One of the reasons these works are so expensive for us at this point to conserve is because we've had years of deferred maintenance. And so with maintenance on a regular schedule, with a designated person who's part of our creative pipeline, we have solved two problems. We're keeping our costs down and we are making creative jobs for our local economy.

Thank you.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed51:28

Hi. So my first report is that next week on March 25th, I'm going to be doing the enrichment seminar at the museum. The speaker I had couldn't do it so I'm giving a presentation of Beginners Procreate which is working with digital tools. It's Digital Tools for Analog Artists and I'll start posting it tomorrow but it's gone out in the museum flyer I've circulated it privately, but it will go out.

It's the 25th from 3 to 4 30 at the Ojai Valley Museum March next week The other thing I want to talk about is the Ojai Studio artist is doing a fundraising event called Small Works, Big Impact and our artists are donating 10 by 10 paintings that will be auctioned. It's an event on April 19th from 5 to 7 at Blanche Sylvia, which I also want to call out to Jenny Proverb for creating a beautiful new gallery in town. So we have a new gallery space and we're really excited about it. That's

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed52:48

Commissioner Commons. What was that? Commissioner Commons.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed52:52

Yes. Oh sorry. The other thing I want to talk about is we attended the Creative Economy Workshop, and I just finished a second Saturday open studio tour of my area. Every second Saturday one neighborhood in Ojai is open and mine was the Arbolada area. And I had close to 100 people come through. And so when you think, and most of the people I didn't know. So when you think about how many people that is to come into Ojai they're eating, they're shopping, they're doing other things besides shopping our studio. So that was a boon.

There's a show at the Carolyn Glasgow Bailey Foundation Glimmers There is a talk by Cassandra Jones, support group for modern times and March 21st from 4-6. I think that's all I want to do.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role53:57

Thank you for fighting through that. We're losing your voice so I decided to let you get your comments

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed54:02

in. One more thing, usually we pay an honorarium to somebody who does a presentation. I don't want that but I was wondering if we could take mine and give it to the museum? Wendy's done a terrific job Arranging chairs and having extra staff when we do our enrichment program and I was wondering

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role54:22

we'll check on that. I don't think we're allowed to Discussion in a vote it's money

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed54:25

Yeah

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed54:32

But if you do that, I just want to say that I've done two of these and I never asked for anything. So I would love to contribute what should have been my honorarium also assuming this goes forward because the museum has been so very generous and all museums especially these days with reduction in philanthropic support and grant support all arts institutions need help I was

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed55:02

going to say the day that we do our presentation, the museum is actually closed. So they staff and open it up for us. Right. It is an extra expense for them.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role55:11

Yeah. We're just going to be careful with money. It has to be a separate item. And I don't want to get too creative with the ways that money is extracted from the city coffers but certainly your heart is in the right place. That's for

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed55:24

sure.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role55:28

You can take one as a commissioner though. Thank you. Commissioner

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed55:35

Wright? Just a brief update that as I mentioned at the beginning of the year, working on improving the grants application for the 2027 cycle and I would like to have that all on target and ready for approval by June and really hoping to get a grant application workshop on the schedule for the public for August before the September 1 applications open. So I'll be working with staff liaison Bridget Mara on that and the tech people and whoever else is going to help us.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role56:23

Thank you. And to our new commissioners, well... Yeah I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed56:28

need

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role56:28

to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed56:28

add them. I'm sorry. I need to add them to this

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role56:31

agenda. Well they don't have anything to talk about yet and I hope not. But certainly the way that in our meetings each week there's reports and when we do our strategic planning we're going to kind of divvy up what makes sense with our new commissioners and ones that were saying goodbye too. Where the different roles are played and it'll tie in with our strategic plan This is where you report each sort of month if there's anything New happening that we need to hear about now Commissioner comments, which you'll see at the end is where?

You're sort of free to make any hopefully positive Comments about the community or yourself for your activities as well. It's just kind of give you a primer on that I'll talk a little bit about about our Strategic planning we Everything happens slow, you know I try to push it but we were able to we had to go out for RFQ for Facilitators and so that's open right now for two weeks and it'll be closed. I think a week from Last Tuesday, I think is when it's going to close and will quickly pick a facilitator and then look at dates for Strategic planning sessions, but we'll have to approve that at the next meeting as well But hopefully we'll have it by then Because the planning is kind of pushing back a little here we're gonna come up against our budget cycle too, so I Want to make sure that we're ready To make our lobby for grants public art maintenance Public Art in general any other collections of the city or ownership of the city anything?

We think we might need next year I want to make sure that we... I think end of the last meeting in May is when the council's final budget meeting is. It's around that calendar, it's about in there too so we need to be ready in April for that. Our April meeting, we want to make sure that we have allowance even if our strategic planning hasn't been completed. And we've—Brigid has found some creative ways that we can, if we discuss it here at a meeting, we can maybe move some things around too. What are we paying for? Like for this facilitator, we may move some money from one of the other things and it'll have to go to council for approval but just make sure we have our Our little chunk of operating expenses paid for as well too. After the creative economy thing, it was a lot of fun and it's good to see council and other government people excited.

We've been looking at working with the chamber, looking at bricks-and-mortar sort of maybe a place to get in office just we'll have four walls to hang art or maybe a desk so he can have a meeting you know just a little space or something like that I'm glad that there's people with more authority and smarter than me working on that too, but I'm excited that might happen.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed59:39

May I ask

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role59:39

a question?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed59:40

Do you mean an art department or a cultural affairs department

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role59:44

or what? Not even sure the format would take it to be a chamber office. I'm hoping it would be a city-owned office or a county owned office that will just be kind of the future center for the whatever this creative economy movement is. Maybe it's the chamber in Congress with the chamber as well, but you know we want a staff person for the arts and so maybe easier to get an office first.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:00:10

I urge you to think along the lines of what other entities do. They have cultural affairs departments, so I think having some sort Relaxed joint thing between chamber and city isn't really what you want I think what we want to be pushing for is a cultural affairs Department, I like culture just because it's broader and it's really what we are about but as you as you Present this around the world. Yeah You're

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:00:48

absolutely right

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:00:49

toward cultural affairs

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:00:51

Yeah, you're absolutely right. I've been a little sloppy on but because I don't know who's gonna be the first person to donate an office and so and if it if it's the county for instance It'll have a different picture because David I don't

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:01:04

think again that's backwards. I don't think we want to get a donation for an unspecified thing. I think we want a department, so for example we wouldn't have had the earlier discussion about the poster whether it belongs in Parks and Rec if we had a cultural affairs division. And so we really ought to be on even footing there and we shouldn't be looking for a donation of anything until we know what we are.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:01:34

Yeah, well good. I promise you I'll promise you all When we do our budget meeting, I'm gonna have some Something to say about that when we get to in April

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:01:45

Yes It's ironic because I was just noticing in other cities This same type of Commission is called Arts and Culture Commission and maybe we should seek to redefine who we are as a By adding culture to the arts. I would assume that would require an amendment to The

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:02:11

ordinance we have a what do we have? We have a division called There's a commission isn't there Heritage or is it historic? What's the history? It's different.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:02:26

Yeah,

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:02:26

completely. That's like buildings and stuff. Buildings, yeah.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:02:29

Locations.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:02:30

No you're right it aligns with the way grant structures come down from the government too as well. This creative theory may become the new buzzword we'll see.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 3Proposed1:02:40

It would be clearer what our jurisdiction is and in a way it both clarifies and expands what this commission can look into and recommend to the City Council.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:02:57

Very good. I'm going to make a future agenda item to discuss this very thing because we need that my sense that you know in the last couple weeks everyone's been excited and talking and all too, and it's sort of like who's You know who's wagging? Who and you know, we only have so much authority and if someone with more authority and budget Takes it over, you know We want to We want to lead follower get out of the way, you know it whatever is best for the community in the arts So I'll make sure that gets on a future agenda item as long with that. I love the maintenance shadow idea because that's a money saver and To have yeah, I just like that gonna put down on future agenda items

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:03:38

creative creative pipeline

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:03:40

create a pipeline Love it We need to walk the walk too right as a government That's why I think we should contribute the public order on that budget, too Okay, so I think oh their future agenda items. So let's let's grab Let's grab the creative pipeline maintenance shadow As an item it's a low-hanging fruit one, I think and let's and budget, pre-budget planning.

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:04:26

I Don't think we actually I mean, I mean, I think the whole shadowing of The public works person is something you can bring to the city manager. I don't I mean we could discuss it But I think we want to spend our time discussing the budget that's just you know in a way It's not our purview to tell Public Works how to deploy their staff but it certainly seems like the right thing to do and Yeah,

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:04:58

right good I guess Just to take up more time. I Want to make sure that it I want to see show how it's not telling them how to do We need this weed whacker working here. It's about actually Building the economic and artistic expertise in the community and making the jobs better so I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:05:24

Could it be dovetailed into a discussion that there is going to be a designated part of Public Works that actually is committed to maintaining our public

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:05:35

arts? Well, I think it could be. I like the soft pedaling like Christine mentioned it too. Let's just get it on the agenda item and we'll have this discussion. And we're going to carry over something from last time, which you'll just carry them because they were good.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:05:58

We're going to have the public art budget discussion.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:06:03

Yeah. Our hope on that go ahead and keep it but our hope in that will be part of a regular report where we're diligent on that as diligent as diligence can be and Ojai Day poster And we talked about the trademark. Give me three words that summarizes the trademark issue for a future agenda item.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:06:34

The Ojai distinction? You mean the maiden maiden If I may III mean while I would love to see many things under our purview my view is that this is really a City Council question because Trademark is well. I was going to speak about this during Commissioner comments, but shall I speak about it now? Oh

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:07:01

No, but I think I'm going to agree with you when you do speak about it too. These comments are a great sort of planner for me to keep things on there. I'm not going to shove something on the meeting just without at least buy-in from two people when it's ready so this is more like collection for things that need done but look forward to hearing from your comments.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:07:25

Okay, but anyway the point is it's not for us to put on

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:07:29

a future

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:07:29

agenda.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:07:30

Yeah, yeah gotcha Anyone else for a future agenda? We've been kind of collecting some things All right Yes

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:07:43

I did bring up the future agenda item determining eligibility for grant applicants who have received grants in two or three consecutive years. What do you

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:07:54

need for that? Do you need any staff

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:07:55

report? I need clarification on whether it's two or three years, or if it is a rule

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:08:02

at all. And whether there's no limitation whatsoever.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:08:06

Let's just ask staff right now to put that on our things to do and let's just get an answer

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:08:12

Well, no. What we know is that there isn't an answer. It is not a quote rule although it was in the handbook as who knows what even to call it. It seems to be the unwritten policy.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:08:29

Can we ask Commissioner Wright, you just when you bring your summary of the kind of addendums or changes or what worked and what didn't work to the whole grant process that they've just where there's not something already spoken to. You just include it in there?

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:08:41

I can include it but I think that this is worthy of a larger discussion which is whether

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:08:47

it's our

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:08:47

decision or not but I think that it should be made aware That people are getting grants three years consecutively, two years consecutively. And if we want to have a distinct rule against repeat applicants, if that's the intention of the city council.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:09:13

Moreover, it's a matter of great interest within the community and we do want community input on this. And so for that reason as well I think we need to have a robust discussion.

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ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:09:28

And I'll try to get to

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:09:29

the root of this information. I mean, many people know this information and it comes up like, I applied last year can I apply next

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:09:38

year? Right, we're talking about multiple-year applying that's sort of nebulous

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:09:43

and

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:09:44

I've never seen it enforced. But I can tell you as an applicant, I remember not applying because I had gotten one so many years. And we

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:09:53

did make the distinct ruling.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:09:57

It does sound like we're having a discussion right now. Yeah. That's why I'm about to stop it. Yeah, yeah. It's on here and good

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:10:05

for bringing that up.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:10:06

Thank you. All right. Time for if there's no other future agenda items, I'm going to Bridget staff report

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:10:17

Yeah, just a couple things. I've got that report in my hands and I'm working with community development to get it all updated. They thought they had things and then they keep coming back to me saying this is different, that is different so I want to make sure it's perfect before I bring it into you.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:10:31

If I might, I just want to mention the whole problem we ran into looking for the budget was that the previous report was not done by the finance department. It was done by community

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development.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:10:41

That report we used to get and they didn't talk to each other so well that's sort of one

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of those things. My goal is to kind of combine that report with the actual funds so we can see how the money got in there and where it's at and whatever you know.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:11:00

So we're clear for the record, what we're talking about is the amount that is in the public art fund. This is the fund into which private developers place their percent for art monies. It's also the fund into which anyone can donate. Hardy har wouldn't that be lovely if they so chose? But that's the fund we're speaking about. Thank you

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for that. I'm working on it. It's all coming together.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:11:28

There may be some interest in there that we didn't know about. That's another thing that has come up with the finance people.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:11:33

Exactly,

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:11:33

yes.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 1Proposed1:11:35

We have gotten two interests emails on the facilitator and they had been forwarded to Chair West so he is looking at those and they've been explained too about what to do and I think that's all I have.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:11:51

I just want to say one thing, which is that I know Smitty thanked you for your good work on the mural jury. But I want to emphasize that thank you. It ran really smoothly and I know how much work you did behind the scenes to make

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it happen. It will run much more smoothly the next time now that I've got it down. We

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:12:08

need more murals. OK. Council Member Lang, did you want to talk to us? Of course!

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ElectedRachel LangCouncilmemberProposedvoiceprint 0.891:12:18

Always. Hi, everyone. I wanted to welcome our new members. Congratulations on serving this amazing community and being a part of this commission. I also wanted to thank those of you who came to the Creative Economy Workshop. It was great to see you all represented there and I thought it went really well and I heard great things about what happened after I left.

And I took a lot of notes tonight, so I will be Probably working with you Smitty to make sure that I'm communicating with staff and helping to liaise in whatever way I can and Then there's one thing that I wanted to bring to your attention. And that is that last week our last City Council meeting We had a presentation by the Green Coalition for the development of the eight acres Of City Hall property and they have a lot of really great ideas one being Ways that we can bring more art and more community activities here.

And so I think it would be a good opportunity Idea for you all to watch that part of the at the council meeting. It's the very first part so you can go right to it and And to see if there's any any ideas or anything that you all want to bring forward as a commission To participate there's going to be a commercial kitchen an event space The demonstration garden Composting they're looking at at a whole creative center in the carriage house So I just wanted to take to bring that to your attention just in case you weren't aware of what's happening and the council did vote to to support the Green Coalition in moving forward with the plans to renovate this whole space. I mean, not this building but to work on the plan that they presented to us. So very exciting and I think there will be a lot of great movement for art in our community And then Smitty and I attended today just a brief meeting about looking at a space, and I took your suggestions and notes in mind.

So I'm sure we will be bringing all of these things back to you. And then one final thing that is last time I was here I talked about how I'm working on collaborations, one being with California for the Arts, and I'm still Meetings have been moved around and there have been some delays, but I'm still on top of this. So I hope to have a report for you next month and And finally, I just wish I could stay your liaison all year long You all are so much fun to work with and you're doing such a great job. So thank you

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:15:13

Wait before you go, please. Well first thank you that's a lot going on I don't know whether you know and if not all research it but whether there is a percent for art obligation that attaches to all of that work that will be happening

ElectedRachel LangCouncilmemberProposedvoiceprint 0.891:15:30

I'm not sure about that. I'll look

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into it.

ElectedRachel LangCouncilmemberProposedvoiceprint 0.891:15:33

Yeah, yeah, I

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:15:34

know. I know there was for Libby Bowl That's the reason the sound arch exists. It was a percent for our earmarks So how I'll look into that?

ElectedRachel LangCouncilmemberProposedvoiceprint 0.891:15:44

Yes. Yeah When I meet with the city manager on Monday, I'll ask him about that too

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:15:51

But you like to talk to

ElectedRachel LangCouncilmemberProposedvoiceprint 0.891:15:52

him about trademark when you okay, so trademark Cultural I have a whole list from tonight. So that'll that'll go on my list the creative pipeline. Yes, exactly the creative pipeline

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:16:07

Thank you Okay, let's before we adjourn let's see if we have any Commissioner comments We could start. Oh Good thank you Bradley Pamela, I feel like you made

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UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 4Proposed1:16:27

yours but do you have anything else? This has become such an incredible asset to our community and I just feel he's doing such a great job. He has a lot of free films and seems to have his finger on the pulse of the community so just want to thank him

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:16:45

Thank you. How about our newest commissioner, Commissioner Carolyn?

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Raisha's left but I wanted to commend her and then you Chair Smitty and the Mayor on facilitating the Creative Economy event. I've mentioned it to a number of people in the community who were not there including some artists who were really interested in what the content of the event was, and I referred them to Rachel's sub-stack. So I'm hoping that can be broadly publicized.

And also I participated in the or observed the jury presentation regarding the mural which was excellent and also the Ojai Studio artist event and really enjoyed Pamela's presentation. And she was demonstrating her artwork to the hundred people who came, and it was really wonderful so thank you.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:17:40

Thank you. Commissioner Wright, you got anything for

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 6Proposed1:17:43

us? I would just like to know if Commissioner Leeds is off the commission now.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:17:53

Yes, he did resign last month. I'm sorry if that wasn't communicated

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effectively. Thank him for his service.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:18:05

Other

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than that no comments.

UnidentifiedUnidentified speaker 5Proposed1:18:11

First, I just want to say how lovely it is to have what's almost a full complement of seven. We're up to six commissioners and it's just a lovely commission. We've got a lot of work to do so it's good to have so many involved people And then I just want to close by noting that the mural jury was covered by both the Ojai Valley News as well as by Vortex and that's great. And I know that once we have our planning session, we'll have a communications person but this is exactly the sort of thing we should be doing. We should be getting this degree of attention for our many community activities.

ElectedAndy GilmanMayorProposed · by role1:18:53

All right, I'll just make some final comments about the Chamber's breakfast on the creative economy. There was a give-and-take session that I was the scribe for afterwards and it almost was a laydown for what our strategic planning strategic planning was two years ago and that the importance of education and mentorships, the importance of having a hub-and-spoke both physically brick-and-mortar and technologically where ideas could come together. A strong communication effort so that we can know what the left hand is doing and know what each other are doing in our community as well.

And the creation of spaces with public artists, the creation of spaces where conversations take place in public spaces too. So it looks like we have found a partner with these kind of stakeholders out there and I'll continue to pursue that. In line, you know with what we're doing because it looks like it may be a kind of No resistance kind of way to kind of drive drive it forward. So with that Yeah, so with that I Thank you all for your service and we're adjourned till April's regular meeting