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right then. Hi, good evening just want to call the meeting to order for the Oxnard City Council for Tuesday February 17th 2026. Madam Clerk may we have the roll call and posting of the agenda please?
Councilwoman Bistilla here. Councilmember Perala
here.
Councilwoman Perez here. Councilman Rodriguez present. Councilmen Starr
Here.
Mayor Pro Tempteran?
Here.
Mayor McArthur?
Here.
The agenda for this meeting was posted in the kiosk at City Hall, the Oxnard Public Library, the city administrative offices and on the city's website on Thursday February 5th. Thank you.
Thank you Madam Clerk.
The next item on the agenda is the appointment item that's scheduled for 530. This is D1 on your agenda packet. It's from the city clerk department The subject entails department workshop, city clerk presentation by our own city clerk, Luli Lopez. The recommendations that the City Council receive and file an update report from the city clerk's office concerning information related to functions, priorities, challenges in anticipated future needs. And Madam Clerk, Lopez is here.
Go ahead, Madam
Clerk. Thank you. Good evening Mayor Pro Tempore, City Council members and members of the public. Luli Lopez Oxnard City Clerk. This presentation will provide an overview of the city clerk's office and the services that we provide. The city clerk's office has two employees plus myself, and we provide services to the community into city departments. The city clerk's office serves as the cornerstone of local government responsible for maintaining official records, minutes, ordinance resolutions and conducting municipal elections.
We prepare agenda and minutes for the City Council, manage the city records and administer the oath of office for all city employees and citizen advisory groups We maintain the city code book. We certify city documents acting as a service agent for the city regarding claims, subpoenas and summons. Accepts and participates in bid openings of public projects.
We provide notary service. We're the elections official. ensuring that employees file their conflict of interest form 700 and issue a request for proposal for the selection of an adjudicated newspaper which we will then bring to the City Council for approval. Every year, we are required to select an adjudicated newspaper so that the public knows where to find our legal notices.
We also assist in the citizen advisory group appointments and accepts appeals. What we do. We prepare the agenda and minutes for the City Council, Oxnard Housing Authority, Oxnard Community Development Successor Agencies, City Council Committees and the Measure O oversight committee. In compliance with Sunshine Ordinance No. 2948, the City Council agendas are published 12 days in advance and committee agendas as well as the Citizen Advisory Group agendas are published 7 days in advance.
As the official keeper of the Oxford Municipal Code we maintain an update the code book for the city and it's available on the website We were also referred to as the historian. The city clerk's office maintains the minutes, resolutions, ordinance since the city was incorporated in 1903. The city clerk's office serves as the elections officials for the city and filing officer for statements of economic interest and campaign disclosure filings We ensure that all employees that are designated as filers comply with resolution number 15,837 to ensure that they file their annual conflict of interest statement form 700 by April 1st of every year.
We also ensure that the Citizen Advisory Board members file their Form 700, take their ethics and sexual harassment training and submit their certificates to our office. These trainings are valid for two years. As the elections officials we coordinate municipal elections and ensuring compliance with local state and federal laws. This is an important year. We have the June 2nd primary election and then we also have our general municipal election on Tuesday, November 3rd for Districts 1, 2 and 5.
The nomination period opens on Monday July 13th and closes on Friday August 7th. I will be coming to City Council in a few months to consolidate our election with the County of Ventura Elections Division And potential candidates file their nomination papers, code of ethics and other election forms with our office. We also administer the oath of office to all candidates.
We coordinate the Fair Political Practice Commission filings including the Statement of Economic Interest Form 700 and Campaign Disclosure filings which are made available on the city's website and also on available in the city clerk's page. Excuse me Next, the citizen advisory groups also known as CAGs. We accept applications which are valid for four years.
For those candidates that have been approved for appointment we administer the oath of office ensuring the timely filing of their form 700, their ethics and sexual harassment training and then each candidate is provided with a copy of the Roberts Rules of Order to ensure we have them sign a document stating that they received it so all CAG board members receive this.
The MADI Act, which is government code section 54972 in California requires local government legislative bodies to publish an annual list of their regular and ongoing boards commissions committees by December 31st making the public aware of how they can participate. And that list would also includes the expiration And we're supposed to post this by December 31st. I do want to point out that every time that we make an appointment, this list is updated and it's available on our website outside of the council chambers and in our city clerk's office.
The City Clerk's Office accepts and date stamps all public project bids. Bids must be submitted to the City Clerk's Office by 2 p.m., and a public bid opening in conjunction with Public Works Contract Administration staff is conducted here in the Council Chambers. We secure all bid bonds until the project has been awarded. And then if anybody is interested in seeing how this process works, tomorrow we have a bid opening at 2 p.m. for Public Works Project 20-95 Campus Park.
We also secure performance and labor, we also secure performance and labor material bonds for subdivision improvement agreements, plan development projects. And we work closely with community development as to the release of these bonds. Our role is to secure and safeguard these bonds. So I'm sure that you guys are probably wondering what a subdivision improvement agreement is or a plan development.
For example, we can take Sakioka Farms when that was being developed. There are conditions that the developer has to comply and then they're required to post a bond depending on the cost of the improvements and then once the city accepts those, then we issue a notice of completion and then we start to calendar the release of those bonds And acting as a service agent for the city regarding claims, subpoenas and summons. In 2024 we received a total of 285 claims in 2025 we receive 229 claims And then acting as the official custodian of record for the city, we're responsible for all City Council agendas, minutes, ordinance resolutions and legal publications. We maintain all City Council minutes, resolutions, ordinance since 1903 and these are maintained in a vault and the paper that we use is acid-free so if anybody is ever interested in taking a look at the vault and where we have these I'm happy to provide you with a little tour.
It's not a big vault, but so... Okay, so what are some of the challenges that the city clerk's office faces? Well, making the City Council resolutions, ordinance agreements publicly available so that the public can research from the comfort of their home. I'm currently working with our IT department to come up with a way where we can make these documents available. The records are already scanned, so it's just a matter of making them publicly available so that the public can research them.
Other cities have their resolutions and ordinance on their website. And so we need to just kind of follow along and get that. And that concludes my presentation, if you have any questions I'm available to answer any questions you might have.
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Thank You Madam Clerk. Council Member Perlow go ahead.
Yes do you have any staff that works with you? If you name them and the second thing I believe You gave the date that people can file for anybody interested in running for offices. What's your state that they can file? Those are my only two questions. Thank
you. So Mayor and Council Member Peralo, we have two staff members. Dee is the Assistant City Clerk and Marisol is the Office Assistant. The nomination period for this coming election on November the 3rd. The nomination period opens on Monday, July 13th and it closes on Friday August 7th at 5 p.m.
Thank you. Mayor Pro Tem?
Thank you Mayor and thank you Madam Clerk for the information. I'm glad that there are a lot of people here to see that if they need to do research projects or find information on the city in the past, the clerk is who you would go to. And I just want to thank you for your work and I know you have predecessors who worked to keep things updated When you mentioned about the records, I'm working on a little project on the side and I had to go back to 2010 to find a very specific agenda item for the City of Oxnard and for another city. And not only was the minutes there for the City of Oxnard on the website but there was also the video of that meeting and the other city I had to request that information so just want to thank you for your work in bringing everything into the digital age going back.
And I know as time goes on, we'll get more and more available to us. So thank you very much.
You're welcome. Mayor and council members, I forgot to mention, we do have a list of all the mayors, all the mayor pro tem and all the council members from the time the city was incorporated. So that's a document that we're also going to make available as like a historical document. So if anybody is ever wondering when was the first female Thank you, Madam Clerk. Any other questions or comments?
Madam Clerk, are there any public speakers for your presentation that you're aware of?
And Mayor and Council Members we do not have any speakers in person or virtually for this appointment item. Thank you.
Thank you. There are no additional speakers. This is only receive-and-file so no action is required by council. Okay guys I'm going to get the gavel here okay
Mayor and council members, we need to take a break and then resume back at 6 p.m.. We'll have to take a short break and then we'll resume back at 6pm.
I'm so used to just going over running late. We're actually on time. The city clerk is very efficient. Yes she is. So if you guys just bear with us, we'll take a short recess and we'll convene here right at six o'clock okay? Go ahead Council Member.
If I could make a suggestion, Mayor. You might want to explain why when they have an agenda as the clerk has stated we have posting times of when the meetings start and that's why we do it so that way don't get in trouble and public might be interested to know how come that's done? Yeah.
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Yeah, there you go. Hi everyone thanks for your patience and just want to call the meeting to order for the Oxnard City Council and the Oxnard Housing Authority for Tuesday February 17th 2026. Oh good Mr. Andrade coming up Madam Clerk, may we have a roll call and posting of the agenda
Roll call — called by Pastor Greg Runyon
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The agenda for this meeting was posted at the kiosk at City Hall, the Ochsner Public Library, the city administrative offices and on the city's website on Thursday February 5th I also have an announcement to read. Pursuant to Government Code Section 54952.3, each member of the Housing Board of Commissioners present will receive $50 pay for convening this meeting with the exception of Commissioner Starr who has declined to receive compensation. Thank you.
Thank you Madam Clerk. Next I'm going to pass it over to Councilwoman Rodriguez to introduce Yesenia Martinez, an 11th grade student at Channels High School will lead us in the pledge and also for a moment of silence we'll take as well.
Yes I'm very excited to invite Yesenia Martinez up here she's an 11th grader at Channel Island high school she's also a proud TRIO Upward Bound participant and for those not familiar with TRIO I too am alumni and it's just a transformative program that really changes lives for first-gen income qualified students so She'll lead us in the flag salute. And I also want to take a moment of silence because at Oxnard College we lost a retired professor, Jim Merrill who was one of our founding faculty back in the day and after 36 years of working at Oxnard College had retired but he created the OC Alma Mater and he just left a legacy so he was very passionate about the arts helped with a lot of the arts, OCTV and so much more. So a moment of silence for him.
Yes?
May we also add a very prominent political figure, Jesse Jackson and as you mentioned the arts, Robert Duvall. Tremendous addition to this nation.
Thank you. Thank you Councilman Perreault.
If you could all join me in standing up and taking off your hats for the Pledge of Allegiance. Place your right hand over your heart. Repeat after me. Ready? Begin.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
Thank you everyone, thank you. When you're ready Yesenia go ahead.
Good evening Mayor McArthur and council members of the City of Oxnard as previously mentioned my name is Yesenia Martinez I would first like to thank you all for this opportunity to represent my community as I am honored to be here with you tonight I was born and raised in Oxnard, and I'm a part of Councilmember Perez's District 6. I am a current junior attending Channel Islands High School. My parents migrated from Guanajuato, Mexico around 20 years ago looking for a better future for their family. My parents have always been firm believers in the importance of education.
I was told from a very young age to never take my education for granted. I was, my mom stays at home taking care of us while my dad works all day in construction. These are sacrifices my parents have made in order for my siblings and I to be able to focus on our education and reach our own dreams. They didn't want us to need to rely on other people to take care of us or have to work longer hours every day unable to take breaks relax and miss out on the importance of family Because of their love and support, I have always had a love for school. One of the teachers that I remember most vividly from middle school was my fifth grade teacher. She was a Harry Potter fanatic and sprinkled Harry Potter whenever she could in our assignments. She encouraged my love for reading and was one of the reasons why I made the Millionaire's Club not once, not twice It was an accomplishment achieved by taking quizzes on books that students read and the more tests they passed, the closer they were to reaching one million words which was the minimum for being in the club.
I always strive to make it in the club every year, to make my parents proud. I have always liked reading though and I don't think that will ever change. Reading books helps you get into the mindset of the characters in the book and be able to relax and not need to worry about deadlines or working. Now that I am in high school, I try to get an AP or honors classes so I can keep my mind sharp and get ready for college but I don�t just go to my classes and go home everyday. I have always tried to stay involved in clubs One club that I am involved in is Avid Club, where I'm currently part of the cabinet as a fundraiser liaison. Where I work with my advisor Ms. Placencia to raise money for our club.
I am also involved in Key Club, HOSA for future medical professionals and Trio Upward Bound at Oxnard College One of the reasons why I was chosen today was for my involvement in Upward Bound. I had first found out about the program during my freshman AVID class because my teacher liked having people from different programs come and present to her students, to help expose them to various opportunities in the community. When I first applied, I wasn't sure if I was going to be accepted but a couple weeks later, I got a pass to go to the office and interview with the Upward Bound Councilor Luis.
I was so nervous, but his positive attitude eventually calmed me down. The interview went well and I was accepted into the program. My mentor was so nice and welcoming that I quickly became used to the program and made a new friend. We mostly stayed to ourselves until my sophomore year during the summer program. She would sometimes miss class, which forced me to get out of my shell and become friends with people that I already knew.
I still talk to them whenever possible, and the funny thing is that without TRIO, I don't think I'd have ever met them since we're all involved in different activities, go to different schools, and are in different grades. Albert Bound takes us on field trips to different places, whether it be academic like universities or for fun like parks. But Albert Bound also helped me meet important people in my community. For example I have met several of the council members serving on this board during the summer program last year. Since I'm involved in programs like AVID that helps prepare students for college, I already have an idea on how I want to continue my education after high school. I plan to go to a university that offers a bachelor's degree in nursing that's close to home, like CSUCI or Fullerton.
Then I want to apply to become a registered nurse and a couple of years later get my master's degree in midwifery to become a nurse midwife. I am choosing this career because I hope to help people in their hour of need. I want to enter the field of medicine because there aren't a lot of Hispanic nurses out there and I want to help change that. From my own personal experiences, there has been trouble finding people to translate for my mom because she doesn't speak English. When I become a registered nurse, I will help people feel more comfortable about the procedures that they are undergoing because I will be able to communicate more effectively with them and put them at ease. My goal for the future is to come back to Oxnard and serve my community as a medical professional.
Thank you for allowing me to speak to you on behalf of my community.
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Thank you and I just wanted to thank Yesenia for coming out here. I know it can be nerve-wracking but she's always been very cheerful, friendly, hardworking and inclusive of all of her peers so thank you so much for representing well. And we look forward to having you come back once you have your degrees and helping pay it forward.
One of the reasons we do this just so everyone in attendance knows is to highlight the great academic talent that we have here in our community. Thanks to the great work of our local educators and just certainly things don't happen by accident is your perseverance, Yesenia and the guidance of your parents. Are they here today? Yeah. Who are they? Want to introduce them?
Just know you've got some great teachers Definitely have had an impact on you, but just know that this entire community is behind you and want to see you succeed. So we're all here to help you and be supportive. And if you wouldn't mind come up here, we've got a certificate for you. If you want to bring your parents up or any of your teachers or anyone from your school that's here supporting you they're welcome to come up here as well.
Thanks.
Good
to
see
you again. Okay, I was going to say we're heading for my classes. Thank you so much. What do you think? One, two, three. One, two, three. Thank you. Thank you. Congratulations.
And if you just will bear with me, the next item that we have is this is a ceremonial item. And this evening we have three. First I'd like to call up Alfie Schulman. And we have a presentation It's a presentation of our resolution after death, commending Len Schulman. The recommendation is that the City Council adopt a posthumous resolution commending Len Schulman for over eight years of dedicated service to the Measure O Citizens' Oversight Committee and here to accept that resolution is Alfie Schulman.
Thank you so much. Would you like to say a couple things?
My husband loves the city. He wanted to do everything possible for the enrichment of this city. He was chairman of the city council for 22 and a half years. He worked really hard to get our Eastwood Park new equipment,
for all his dedicated work. And for all you, I know we have a lot of students here, parents from Pacifica High School. You know things don't happen by themselves it takes the dedicated effort for people to volunteer and get engaged to make our community better and that's what Mr. Shuman did so after his passing it was hard to take because he committed so much of its time to make this community better and Ms. Shuman is here to accept this resolution that we have for her thank you Ms. Shuman
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Mayor, before we
move on to the next item if we can have a motion and a second to adopt a resolution.
Excuse me I'll second.
I'm sorry who was the
maker of the motion? I made the motion and Mayor Pro Tem seconded the motion.
Roll-call vote Passed 5–0 motion. · 2 under review
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And this motion carries seven to zero, thank you.
Absolutely It's for me personally it's tremendous there's a lot of people here But the things that were said by the mayor, it takes a lot of people. A lot of years. This was a husband and wife team. They have kids and they involved with the city of Oxnard. One of the first times I remember him was in his neighborhood council. We have a council member here Mr. Aaron Starr that served with Len Schulman on the UREP some time ago, quite some time ago.
Mr. Shuman was instrumental in being a member of the PAC, Mr. Shuman was also instrumental in regional neighborhood cleanups when they did that for awhile. He led the neighborhood cleanups in his neighborhood. He had the national nights out. He did a tremendous amount of things that have gone unsaid but every time as you look at each other in the audience it isn't just the man, it's the woman by his side made a big difference in this community.
He's a tremendous loss
Thank you Council Member Perla for sharing those kind words.
The next item on the agenda, this is the presentation of a resolution commending Adam Lopez and I saw Adam come in here. Come on up Adam. And the recommendations that the City Council adopt a resolution commending Adam Lopez for over seven years of dedicated service to the Community Relations Commission and you may have seen Adam not only on social media but also he's the, you'll hear his voice here in a little bit. But he is the voice behind our Christmas parade, our tree lighting among other things he does so you'll hear his voice and may recognize it.
So Adam thank you so much for what you've done.
Yeah well good evening everybody. You know it's one of the greatest satisfaction and feelings in life is serving And it's giving back to the community, but serving with a purpose. Whether it's a commissioner, whether it's city council, whether it's an oversight committee, whether its neighborhood council and serving knowing never forgetting the purpose is to serve the people in making a difference You know, I served 2016-17 as commissioner. We held the CRC, we held a town hall meeting with Chief Whitney back then and a lot of school administrators and we discussed suicide depression amongst young kids.
As commissioner, I sat in the Interfaith Council and we hosted our very first faith forum for the city of Oxnard where we gathered in Plaza Park and we had faith leaders different religions denominations come together for unity So what I'm trying to say is that, what we try to instill is that in a world that we're living in that there's so bad happening. There's still a lot of good that needs to be done and that's what we do. You know my nephew just got into the CRC he's a young commissioner and I commend everybody and I encourage all of you young people to get involved in your city and make a difference. So I appreciate all of you and I served as Commissioner but one day I hope to replace one of you in the dais
Thank you.
Mayor and council members, before we
move on to the next item, may I have a motion and a
second?
Roll-call vote 3–0 motion and a second? Second. Thank you. Councilwoman Perez? Yes. Councilwoman Rodriguez? Aye. Councilman Starr? Yes. · 4 under review
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This motion carries 7-0 thank you
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The next item on the agenda is the presentation of commendation certificates to the Pacifica High School boys football team for their victories in CIFSS Division III championship and the CIF State Southern Regional 1A Championship. And if I can just say a few, it's a powerhouse with Pacifica High School. I know I was just talking to Coach Moon out there Coach Kovarubia is back there. And I mean, I think Pacifica remains the only public high school to win a state champ back in 2019 under coach Moon and here in 2024 back-to-back in 2025 to make it to the state champs again or to the state bowl.
Lost both times but instead of making it, I mean, it's remarkable. I was doing good. I was so close, so close. We're just like Pacifica West. OK, I'm kidding Coach Moon but it's just for us is like when we heard Pacifica High School and not just football. I know there's other sports coming where you guys are just dominating and for us as a city you're putting us on the map when it comes to sports And to me personally means a lot, to us it means a lot that all of you young people are representing Pacifica High School and representing this city with just the tremendous amount of talent. You can't do it alone without the support of your parents certainly, without the support of your coaches many of whom are volunteers To try to just enhance your game and to us it's just, I mean we're just so proud.
We're just so proud that you're representing Oxnard. So when we heard you again made it to the state bowl, we wanted to honor you and bring you in here. I know right now it's presidential week. I know you guys are off school. So we don't have all of you other than the entire team here which actually It works out right, otherwise we'd have the whole place full. But we also invited the cheerleading squad to come here as well under Vanessa's leadership and the reason we did that is because we know how much more... I mean they're the bridge between the team and the fans.
They also intensify the game They elevate the atmosphere of football and motivate the players to play that much better. So they play a crucial role in the success of this team, so we wanted to make sure we honor them as well. So thank you Vanessa and thank you to all the juniors that came out here to be recognized. And if I can get maybe your help, but we'll start with you Gabriella, we'll call him up unless there's any other councilman want to make any comments or anything?
Absolutely.
So as we're getting ready for those, are we going to bring them up a section at a time Mayor and then we'll do photos? Okay so be ready alphabetical order if you're at the beginning of the alphabet get ready I just want to reiterate what the mayor said and thank you all so much thank you to the students the athletes our coaches our parents who supported it and all the staff who supported it as well.
I think what the mayor was trying to say is that even though we might have come up short that know that there's always lessons in everything And you went farther than all those other teams who came up short before you did. So, but... But lessons in everything. You persevered. You came out. You did your very, very best and we're here to recognize that tonight so thank you Mayor.
Yeah I think we're just gonna stop.
Maybe I can bring this to a new low. This is more than about football, it's about the game of life itself. We're talking about camaraderie, discipline, teamwork, the pursuit of excellence. These are all life lessons for you that's going to help you through the rest of your life so I hope Pursue life the way you pursued this game, because the game of life is what is basically going to be the end result. That is your pursuit. Thank you.
We're just going to call you up. We have an alphabetical order and if you just, we're going to call the coaches at the end but if you want to come up, we'll start filling in this first row here then once that gets full we'll go to the back if that's okay.
Sure I'll try. I apologize ahead of time if I mispronounce your name but we'll start with JC Adame. JC Adame. Jay Talavan Ale Aina Please don't let me say that wrong. Okay, Gabriel Arellano? It is a ski week. Kyle Bird? All right. Luke Cameron or Cameron. Luke? David Carranza? We do have David? All right. Robert Castaneda. Did we print the right names? No, I'm just teasing.
Alejandro Castro. Samuel Castro. These are your teammates, right? Okay, great. Luis Cochillos. Luis? Okay. Donovan Compton. Elijah Compton. All right, that was A through C. Gabriel Diaz. Johnny Diego. Yay, Johnny! Followed by Jonathan Feliciano. Hey! Christian Friede. Or Freddy? I'm sorry, it's Christian Freed right? Kaden Gan. Kaden? All right. Jacob Garcia.
Oh,
Christian Freed. Jacob Garcia. Alexander Garcia. Parker Goins. Parker? Jamarcus Harmon. Dion Haisley. Julian Hernandez. John Hernandez. John? Angel Herrera-Cruz. Anthony Jacobs. William Jones, Jr. Taylor Lee. Lorenzo Lee. Lorenzo? All right, Austin Lewis. Austin? Adam Lopez. Another Adam Lopez! Anthony Loreto. Gus Luna. Anthony Macias. Max Magana. Isaac Magana Gabriel Marquez Eli Medina Jairo Mendoza Kingston Miller Julian Molina. All
right, so we're in the letter N
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now. Ryan Negrete. Jasper Neos.
Johan Ortega. Jose Perez. Isaiah Phelps. All right, Isaiah! Come on down. Jacob Phelps. Thank you sir. Chris Pike. Josiah Polo. Caleb Puga Noel Quintero Abel Ramos Isaiah Ramos Ruben Romero Elijah Royster. Mickey Rucobo. Adrian Ruiz. Jose Saenz, Jr. Diego Salazar. Adam Salazar. Raul Salcedo. Jeremiah Samuel. Jalil Santos. David Sarti. Angel Sepulveda. Karanpreet Singh.
Malaika Sion. Darius Smith. Is Darius here? Tyler Stewart. Are we through
those?
We have one more batch of football players. Jordan Tawanu. Thank you, Councilwoman. Adaya Tilley. Arunija Tilley Troy Torres Atoa Tiamalau, did I say it correctly? Amari Turner. Robert Jaden Victor. Julian Villegas Deville Warner Quinton Williams Demetrius Williams Phillip Wilson Jaden Wingo. Okay, all right that is our players let's oh let's get this one last picture here.
Spill all the tea up here alright okay let's hear it for our... All right, Mayor did we want to do a photo for all of them and then where we have the cheerleaders too? Well let's do a photo then we'll call up cheerleaders and other photos. Can I have all the
players hold up your
certificates
chest high please thank you Chest high. All right? He's going to go first, look at this guy right here all right? Going first and perfect. All right real quick three two one one more open your eyes perfect. One more set if you're not you can't see the camera or you're not in the picture
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Here we go. Ready, and cheese! Thank you.
All
right. All right, Mayor. How would you like to proceed? Do you want to bring up the cheerleaders or do you want to excuse... I think they want a full picture with everybody eventually, right?
Okay.
Coaches.
All right. Back to the assembly then. You wanna switch or you wanna do
this? Sure, if you open them for me. Cheer coach Vanessa Rivera Miliana Valdez. Sophia Espinoza. Destiny Aron. Angelica Carrasco. I apologize, that was Angelina Carrasco. Nidia Yanez. Nadia Yanez. Magali Ortiz. Mariah Lopez. Is Mariah here?
Okay.
Naima Samuel. Bella Guzman. Victoria Flores. Jazlyn Ruggerio. Samantha Guzman. Alia Valdez. Aaliyah. Amara Espinosa. Alexandra Hernandez. Abigail Casares. Ariana Segovia. Ruby Manzo. Emily Sepulveda. Maria Ines Penagos. Damila Aupui. Juliette Graham. All right, let's give it up for the cheerleaders! We also have the coaches coming up, so Mayor Pro Tem will read them and I'll help out.
Okay our first coach is Head Coach Mike Moon. Round of applause for Coach Moon. Assistant Coach Mark Brondos. Assistant Coach Eric Diaz. Assistant coach Agustin Castaneda. Assistant coach Dean Litton. Assistant coach Armando Cifuentes. Assistant Coach Richard Valdivia. Assistant coach Marcus Alford, assistant coach Mike Moraga, assistant coach Jordan Nunry, assistant coach David Covarrubias.
All right, that is all our certificates Mayor.
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For everybody on the edges just get a little tighter
okay?
Thank you. Don't forget to raise your awards chest high okay? Perfect. Alright you can see my lens I can see you. Coaches are getting ready. All right, perfect in 321 look at me big smiles one more big smiles all right there we go thank you
Coach Moon, do you want to address the crowd and say a few words? We have Coach Moon coming up here to give us a speech.
All right, first off appreciate obviously cheerleaders being here and being recognized tonight. All the parents that are in attendance you're a huge part of this back-to-back championships and couldn't have done it without you couldn't have done it without to cheer obviously the players really really nice to be recognized by the you know City Council of the best city in United States of America But I really mean that. I love the city, I love the people of this city.
I love our players, our coaches, all the parents and everything so wouldn't want to do it at any other school in any other city. Appreciate the mayor, appreciate City Council and everybody. Go
Tritons! Thank you players thank you so much for your time. Parents thank you For your engagement, for your accomplishment. You guys are really a powerhouse. You guys are representing Oxnard the right way and certainly I think like Council Member Starr said is you're learning life lessons and just you know for me it's so important to create these relationship. It really strengthens the bonds in our community that's why it's important for us to recognize not only we recognize academic talent but also recognize athletes who are going somewhere and also the dedication the perseverance of our cheerleading squad That elevates the game, bridges the gap between the fans and the player. It just motivates the players so they play a crucial role. And so I'm just so thrilled that all of you accepted my invitation to come out Accepted certificates and you all are represented as well in the tremendous work to you Coach Moon, to Vanessa and Marcus David And the other coaches Eric that are really elevating the game.
I guess remarkable what you've done In such a short amount of time so thank you for that perseverance and dedication. Thank you everyone All right guys
I hope you
guys have a great rest of your night. Thank you so much for coming, thank you.
Okay. Thank you for joining us. Trains. All right. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I'm Jessica. Okay. Yeah. Can you get one? Angie. Angie, you up?
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Thank you. I was thinking about, oh my god, I wonder how many women she is. You're very tall. Okay. Big brother, big brother, big brother. You're going to be carrying a baby. Next year. Okay. Yeah. This is a video of the City Council meeting. Mike, you've got to smile. Hey, Joe. Thank you. Okay. Over here, man. Okay, we're finished. Thank you guys. Thank you.
There you go. I wasn't like trying to pawn it off, it just worked too much. Yes thank you. There you go. Thanks everyone, thank you for bearing with us.
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And I don't know if he's still here, just wanted to make a quick announcement. We just learned from Coach Moon that Julian Hernandez just accepted an offer to go to Western New Mexico University. Congratulations, Julian! Congratulations, Julian on your acceptance to Western New Mexico University. Congratulations. We will now
move to the next item on the agenda. And this is for public comments for items not on the agenda, and we have... I see Mr. Eric Andrus is here. Mr. Andrus, we'll start with you followed by Curtis Thompson. Okay, and Sarah? Sarah's here, okay. Good night. Thank you, Mr. Andrews for bearing with us as we quieted down the... Madam Clerk are there any speakers? I see a couple up there.
Mayor and council members yes we do have a virtual speaker would you like to take that person first?
We'll take Mr. Andrus first if that's okay and then we'll go to Mr.. I see Curtis Thompson is not here will go to Sarah than the virtual callers
What you're hearing is what my household and neighbors have endured since December of 2021. This kept my partner Jeff awake during his final months when he was terrified, he'd stop breathing in his sleep. For four and a half years I filed complaint after complaint provided documentation and complied with every requirement yet the problem persists. Early on, OPD told me they don't respond to dog barking calls. When I asked Sergeant Shrub why officers were being told not to uphold the law, he said he didn't question it.
Under California Health and Safety Code section 46,000 excessive noise is a serious hazard to public health and welfare and all Californians are entitled to a peaceful and quiet environment. That state policy expects local governments to enforce their noise ordinances as written Not postpone action under fabricated interpretations. Through public record requests, I found that OPD made up a rule that two houses must be affected and report the incident twice before a hearing can be held. I included the email in the PDF I sent you all a few hours ago. I hope you all got it. The rule appears nowhere in the ordinance.
Section 5-2A7 defines a nuisance as noise so loud and persistent, it deprives persons in two or more residences of comfortable enjoyment. That's the definition of what qualifies. The barking must affect two residences. My residence and Louise's residences are both affected, among others who just choose not to report it. Section 5-3 says any person aggrieved by a public nuisance may swear out a written complaint with the city clerk. It requires no co-complainants, no multiple filings, no procedural threshold. OPD invented those requirements.
My neighbor Louise should be calling in to clarify the dog is still barking. Curtis my roommate is also gonna call in And confirm this nuisance affects our residents daily. This is today, as well as his mental and physical health. California's public nuisance law including penal section 372 and 373A makes it a misdemeanor to create or maintain a nuisance that interferes with the community's enjoyment of life and property. A persistent barking dog fits that squarely within its definition of a nuisance. The state's policy and law underscore the importance of addressing conditions that disturb the public peace and quiet. I call on this council to investigate why OPD has refused to enforce sections 5-2 and 5-3 as written, to examine the fabricated practices being applied, and to ensure our laws are administered according to their plain language not according to requirements invented to avoid enforcement.
Thank you, Mr. Andrus. Just to confirm Curtis Thompson is not here, correct? OK, don't go to him on Sarah. Thank you, sir.
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Good evening Mayor McArthur, City Council and city staff. I'm just here to update you guys on the latest abduction statistics from ICE. As of this morning 805 UndocuFund has reported 1,626 abductions in the 805 area code. In Ventura County there are 848 and in Oxnard 142. It's been a long year and these numbers continue to grow. I know you guys are doing everything that you can, and so are we.
We have another training here in Oxnard coming up on February 28th for anyone interested in getting involved And you can find out more about that on our social media at 805 UndocuFund and on our website, 805Undocufund.org. Thank you.
Thank you Sarah. Madam Clerk we'll go to a virtual caller then we'll follow the virtual caller. Jeanette will follow that virtual caller thank you.
Okay virtual speaker if you can press star six to unmute and you have three minutes starting now.
Good evening, Mayor and members of City Council. My name is Chris Iwasaki-Markey and I'm here to speak tonight in response to my letter I sent last week outlining how the Oxnard Dunes community remains under continued threat from fire and environmental hazards For many years we have lived with persistent theft, physical threats of violence, screaming throughout the night and periodic fires from the massive vagrant encampment off 5th and Edison Canal.
Although the bulk of the encampment has been cleaned up There are still a few lingering and repeat offenders who still inhabit the dunes. This is not hypothetical, and on January 21st yet another fire ignited just yards from our homes as documented in 311 request number 17698627 Beyond the physical danger, we the global we are facing a secondary crisis. As you know insurance companies across California are using these unmitigated risks to declare new fire zones and thereby look for ways to hike premiums and what will be a penalty to residents here in Oxnard.
My neighbors and I have spent four years, and likely more for others in the community, documenting these issues. Personally, I have submitted drone photos of active encampments, utilized a 3-1-1 system to provide photographic evidence of repeat trespassers, and in the past had more fruitful conversations with the HLU unit commander at that time Sergeant Trickle while balancing my professional responsibilities.
Yet despite the homeless liaison units performing cleanups, some inhabitants still remain or resurface on a continued basis. Now given my letter to the city last week, instead of proactive enforcement I have been met with defamation from an internal HOU lead commenting that was either provided to me by accident or anonymously. He deliberately embellished facts to slander my character Labeling me as a privileged day trader to villainize me and make me look like I'm some entitled homeowner. To clarify, I'm a professional that lives here in Oxnard but I also recently suffered a layoff which lasted for about eight months last year.
Furthermore, the HLU critiqued my use of the 311 system ignoring the fact that calling the non-emergency line often results in a five to 10 minute hold and a two hour or more response time. If you don't want people to use the 311 system, then remove the option to report homeless encampments. This is a shift-to-blame tactic attacking citizens who provide the evidence to the police they need in an
attempt... Thank you, sir. I apologize. You're out of time but we did get the letter you submitted. Thank you.
Thank you Mayor. Thank you City Council.
Thank you sir for calling in. Madam Clerk, we'll go to Jeanette. Thank you, Jeanette.
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I want to first congratulate Pacifica High School. I know Coach Moon and Eric Diaz did a tremendous job. I'm a little short, sorry. Real quick, I have two complaints Mr. McArthur and I don't, I feel bad laying this upon your panel but my first complaint is in putting sidewalks to the Colonia area homeowners property There's a few neighbor complaints that have been reaching out as far as their property being cut in order for the city to come in and build sidewalks.
I don't know if there has been a continuance with that matter, but I wanted to address it with you peacefully. My second complaint is a peaceful complaint. On May 20th, 2022 I was escorted off of Pacifica High School campus with two police officers. One of the officers was Officer Han with Principal Chris Ramirez, Karen Boyd, HR after reporting two drunks on campus including my former boss First administrator was Ted Lawrence.
Second was Ray Gonzalez. After being caught three times on campus, I find out that one of the union representatives from Oxnard Union High School District Tim Allison and Robert Caden that get paid 15,000 and the second gets paid 180,000 to represent union Oxnard Union High School district employees in which they failed. They didn't represent me in this matter.
Furthermore, my godson who went to Pacifica High School and got knocked to the floor with cameras all over that school and was injured with three other of his individuals did the right thing by going to school just like everybody else There was no nurse on campus. There was no assistant nurse, but yet what's scary about the whole incident was how do you have 3,400 students at a school and you don't have no nurse or you don' t have no assistant nurse? That's a violation of labor laws. But we had two drunks Ted Lawrence is now principal at Oxnard High School.
Ray Gonzalez is out of position over at Oxnard Union High School District.
I'm sorry, Jeanette, you're out of time but if you wouldn't mind leaving your contact information with our clerk?
I'd like to continue
for next time. We'll get back with you on some of these issues.
There's a lot more issues trailing and I will be here for the next... When's the next...
Council meeting in two weeks.
March 3rd, I will be here
to
continue with this matter.
Thank you again. Thanks Jeanette.
Thank you.
Excuse me Mayor and Council Members we do have a few virtual speakers. Okay. Virtual speaker please press star six to unmute and you have three minutes starting now.
Good evening. My name is Curtis. I am Eric Andrews' roommate, and I want to give you my perspective on what he said. I am not anti-dog. You would be hard pressed to find a person who loves dogs more than I do or who bonds with them more deeply than I do. I would even love the opportunity to play with the dog in question. He is adorable. First let me say we are not complaining about random 10-minute burst of righteous indignation because the squirrel had the audacity to invade the dog's territory.
This is about hours of sustained barking, sometimes five or six hours at a time which has been documented with videos and submitted to the police and animal control multiple times. Secondly I am an army veteran with social anxiety and complex PTSD Prolonged abrasive noise is not an inconvenience for me, it is a severe trigger. I have to leave my house regularly because of the incessant barking.
Sitting in my car in solitude is preferable than during the constant barrage of noise. I should not have to leave the safety and comfort of my home because the police department has refused for the City of Oxnard's noise ordinance. Thank you for your consideration.
Thank you Mr Thompson for calling in. Madam Clerk, we'll go to the next caller.
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Virtual speaker please press star six to unmute and you have three minutes starting now Hi, can you hear me? Yes. Please start.
Oh good evening everyone I'd like to talk to you all about the homeless issue in Oxnard and I really appreciate that resident coming forward and sharing some of the concerns that he's had actually during my campaign when I ran for City Council on 2022 I was made aware of that encampment over there on Fifth Street. And so from those folks on the shores, they had some legitimate concerns about fire, about trash, about porch theft and a number of issues. So my response to that was to go over to the encampment and talk to those folks.
And share with them the concerns of the residents in that area that were being affected by some of, you know, the negative behavior and things that were going on at that encampment. And what we did was as I worked with those people to clean that encampment up We took out a large 40 yard container worth of derelict vehicles, trash and junk. And I got the homeless to clean it up but those issues are still valid and persistent. And what happens with the homeless is they get vilified for a lot of things that sometimes they do do sometimes they don't do. But I think the residents business owners have a right to live peacefully and safely. But the homeless also are human beings, and I think they need to be treated with dignity. I think we need to try to work with those folks to make the best of some bad situations.
And I think Oxnard's failed miserably because unfortunately what Oxnard does in many cities do, Oxnards not alone, is they put all their eggs in one basket And what I call the homeless industrial complex. We spend almost $50 million renovating a building, providing emergency shelter and 55 permanent units for the Casa Carmen over on B Street and A. And what we fail to do is to really come up with a strategy that deals with homelessness in a more comprehensive manner. And we leave a lot of people out in the cold. There's a homeless encampment that was just cleared out on Fifth Street, just south of the transit center. It was done professionally by our police. I appreciate the work they did. But those folks just go somewhere else. They need a place to go.
They need a cost-effective emergency shelter. They need transitional housing and ultimately permanent housing. And I think Oxnard needs to really take a look at how we're dealing with homelessness and allocating funds to deal with the issue. And I don't think we're doing a very good job. I've been a homeless advocate for 30 years, and I know a little bit about homelessness.
I was homeless runaway at 16 myself. So, I have a very personal issue for me. So, I think we can do better. I think we can address the concerns of residents. I think we can work with homeless people those that are willing to work with us and try to change their lives around become productive
members of society. I
think we can do better. Thank you.
Thank you. Appreciate the phone call Mr. Portillo thank you. Madam Clerk will go to the next virtual caller
Mayor and council members that actually concludes our speakers in person and virtually for items not on the agenda. Thank you
What's that Eric was somebody else If there's somebody calling you can just press star 9 to raise your hand if you want to be called I Again, if someone's on hold just press star 9 to raise your hand and our clerk will call upon you. We'll just wait a few seconds. Madam Clerk, if you don't see
any...
It's star nine.
Mayor and council members, they're on. Sorry, they disconnected.
Okay. Thanks, Madam Clerk. If there are no further speakers,
we'll move to the next item on the agenda. This is Item H, report of the city manager Mister Wynn, go
ahead with your report. Thank you. It'll be brief before Diego brings up the slide I just want to notice Mr. Pinedo Dan. I caught you blinking while you were taking the photos tonight. I caught you blinking while you're taking the photos tonight. I also have to recall earlier I was at the resolution commemorating Len Schulman's service at his last neighbourhood council meeting.
He had told me before the meeting to come dressed like him because he convinced the entire neighbourhood to do so, and most of you who knew Len would remember that he loved His cowboy boots, his western shirts and jackets and his cowboy hat. So I came dressed like him to that meeting, and it was a prank. No one else did. But that was a fun meeting. OK, so today is Lunar New Year.
There are different communities in different cultures around the world have different dates for New Year's, so there are several throughout the year. This one is celebrated by many, many, many people across the globe and certainly also up and down the Americas. So then a lot of quoting of Mark Twain both last year and this year about how history may not repeat itself but it rhymes I think is the essence of that quote So, I want to share this.
Take a good look at this. This is from the late 1800's. Anyone who studied history would recall there was a period that we legally formally had the Chinese Exclusion Act. So what's really interesting about this is this is actually not government propaganda. This is corporate advertisement And it is the company that just come up with some new cleaning something, some sort of detergent I suppose to do your laundry. So of course it plays on the Chinese laundry but this was very very popular during that era.
We're not the only country in the Americas with large Asian communities. Like I said, throughout the Americas there are various Asian communities and there's no better celebration of that than this. Take a good look at this. This is Don Julio. This is considered a rather tasty tequila but look at the bottle they issued this year. Pretty good stuff looks like.
All I would say is consume it responsibly. Best if you share it. And then finally, I know Lunar New Year is often known as Chinese New Year but I just want to tell you the best thing to eat during Chinese New Year is Vietnamese food. Just ask this guy, remember him? So there you go. It's the year of the horse. Happy new year. Thank you Mr. Mayor.
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And before we go to report from city council members, Madam Clerk informing me we have the virtual caller joining us now. We had some technical issues but if it's okay I'll call upon now to provide a
comment. Mayor and Council Members that virtual speaker has disconnected so they're no longer online. Okay
Thank you, Madam Clerk. We'll now go to
the next item on the agenda. This is Item I. This is the City Council Housing Authority Committee reports and if it's okay, Councilwoman Perez will start with you. Thank you. Mr. Andrade do you have anything? I'm sorry. Do you have anything? Any comments? Okay thank you, Mr. Andrade. Thank
you. Just wanted to share, I wanted to thank our staff who went out and led the Cardi Park cleanup. I know that there's been many developments that have happened since last year. One of the biggest accomplishments that I wanted to kind of set the tone with was ensuring that all parks in District 6 have mobile libraries so Cardi Park is one of them. have a new playground, so I'm hoping the community is enjoying that. And really again wanted to thank the team out there who showed up, all of the volunteers who went out to that cleanup. As a part of my report, I also wanted to share that myself and several of my colleagues here on the dais attended the Oxnard School District Roundtable discussion and really wanted to just thank all Individuals who put that event on and for the invitation in tours that were provided that day.
A couple of other updates, on Thursday February 26th at 5 p.m., located at the South Oxnard Centre there'll be the South Oxnard Connect opportunity. This is really an opportunity to come share feedback about the initiative on the South Oxnard Connect project On Saturday, February 28th from 3 to 5 at Haycox Elementary School we will also be holding a Southwinds Park Community Workshop. Another opportunity to just give input, share any feedback regarding some of the improvements that'll be coming to that park. I also wanted to share that this week our local workers, the Teamsters 2010 strike is happening. I believe it started today and it'll continue throughout the week, and that is taking place at CSUCI so definitely want to ensure that as we see community right now there's definitely calls throughout the country for a variety of different non-cooperation efforts and so I know that There are many other entities and organizations that are currently on strike and just wanted the public to be aware of that.
Again, as a part of my commitment to communicate and ensure that community members know who their representative is in District 6 I'll be meeting with Sunkist Elementary staff next week and really looking forward I'm continuing my tour at the various schools in the area. As I mentioned, that is the first point of contact where families are often and so wanting to just ensure that we are bridging what's happening here at City Hall with what is impacting our communities throughout the city and so that is my report and back to you Mayor.
Thank You Councilwoman Perez. Councilmember Perrella?
It's terrific to see the young individuals receiving the awards for their athletic achievements. And they'll make memories that will last them the rest of their lives. Hopefully, they stay in touch with each other but they've made memories for the rest of their lives and may not understand it right now. I would hope that the young lady that spoke with respect to her concerns about the high school and something happened at high school, I hope that she takes that to the High School District And the Ventura County Board of Education and submits a letter to this council, to the city clerk so that all council members can see what our concerns are. I don't know if they're fact or fiction. I don't know but they sound very serious and for the person to take the time and the opportunity and put themselves out to share with the public, I consider that significant.
I want to correct a statement from one of the public members that spoke with respect to the cleanup of a homeless encampment along the railroad tracks. The railroad company was heavily involved in that, it wasn't just Oxnard Police Department. It was a mutual effort, very successful and
that's
all I have Mayor.
Thank you Council Member Perlow. Mayor Pro Tem Toran?
Thank you to our public speakers for this evening and also a special thanks to our Pacifica teammates or team members and everyone who helped support them in their effort. And I appreciate Ms. Shulman coming out, as was mentioned by a number of other people and by the resolution itself. Len Shulman dedicated quite a bit to the city while this resolution was specific to Measure O.
As was mentioned he served over two decades as neighborhood council chair for the Carriage Neighborhood Council. He served longer as chair than at that point when he stepped down than I had in my entire career. And so, he had volunteered more time than I had spent getting paid to do things and I just appreciate all of his work and Alfie's work and all of the people who were around them for what they did for this city.
So, I appreciate the council supporting a resolution to recognize that formally Just a couple quick announcements here. River Park Neighbourhood Council held their meeting last week, as did Carriage Square Neighbourhood Council and I want to give thanks to all the staff who attended those two meetings to provide the information for those folks. For Carriage Square, I believe Alfie had mentioned that they have essentially landed on the design and next steps for their replacement playground And so for Eastwood Park, I hope folks will follow along as steps go forward with those as well as a few other parks throughout the city which I think would bring us to 18 parks when it's all said and done after this round of parks. As Mr. Howlett had mentioned, with playgrounds that have been replaced and Eastwood Park will have some really great amenities including a number of inclusive features and I just really thank our park staff and the community members who gave their input for that.
Saralinda will be meeting next week for their neighborhood council, 7 p.m. at Saralinda School. For my own meetings I met with the Youth Right to Rise youth group, a group that's been convened and overseen by Vanessa Frank, a local attorney, and they shared their thoughts and concerns about community issues and community impacts from federal actions including immigration enforcement, and I appreciated the opportunity to sit down with them organic discussion with them about it.
And then, along with Councilmember Perrello and Councilwoman Pettis, I also attended, and the mayor, I attended the Oxnard School District event last Friday. Thank you to Dr. Degenna and all of her team for putting that together. There were a number of school board trustees there from the high school district and from Oxnard School District. There was members of the Wainimi City Council there as well, and a number of community leaders engaged community folks, and some students as well who gave us a nice tour of the new Rose Avenue School.
And so thank you to all of them for convening that. And I just have one quick request here. This is something that was sent forward to us by the Parks Recreation Community Services Commission. They had mentioned they had vetted a memorial program for memorial benches or memorial trees in our public parks. I would like to ask for staff to look at what the recommendation and work was done by the commission, and bring that forward to committee, and then if the committee agrees ultimately council for consideration.
And those are my comments. Thank you Mayor.
Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. I move to Councilwoman Basuah. Thank you.
Thank you, Mayor. I just want to make a public announcement. The Oxnard Friends of the library whose mission is to support the Oxnard Public Library by raising funds to benefit the library and its patrons and to increase community awareness of the library. I'm reading straight from their website. is looking for volunteers to assist in the gift shop. So if anybody's interested in volunteering, it's a great group to volunteer with if you have time. The gift shop is only open when the volunteers are available so if anybody's interested In case of some of you that may not know, you can also have an annual membership. So please look on their website and there's different levels that you can become a member. And if anybody wants to be able to support the Oxnard Public Library, that's a really good way to do so.
Thank you.
Thank You Council Member Starr
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Yes, I attended the Rose Park Neighborhood Council meeting. I had a really great presentation by Commander Serrato. We had an actual rare circumstance where there was no crime report in Rose Park and I give credit to the neighborhood residents there who were just being so vigilant and having a good relationship with law enforcement and I hope that we continue to see that That lack of crime continue.
I will be attending the West Village Neighborhood Council meeting tomorrow at the R.J. Frank Middle School, and I will also be attending the La Colonia Council meeting on Saturday which has been moved from the community garden. I think it's now in the Las Cortez room at 1200 Felix Court. Regarding constituent services, I had Daniel Alvarez, who's the chair of La Colonia, reached out to me. He was requesting information about Quimby funds for the La Colonia neighborhood and my understanding is that Steve Hallett is addressing those questions so he can get an understanding of what's possible and where it's at.
I had a correspondence with Mr. Peterson who's asking about the speed hump situation on Harbor Boulevard. I think it's one of those situations Part of the street is county-owned and part of it's city owned. And there's an issue with trying to put in speed pumps there, so I'm not really quite clear what challenges are but I know the public works director will be responding to that.
And then I had a gentleman named Mr. Cortez who was in the Rose Park neighborhood. He was not really happy with the repavement job that was done by one of our contractors Apparently his father worked in asphalt construction for about 25 years and is very familiar with it. He thought that what we were doing was substandard. What I'm hearing from Public Works, of course, is that we have different levels of service that we do depending on how bad the condition of the road is at the time. It might be just a slurry seal or something more intense.
And I guess what I get out of that is It's not always clear to the public, the level of service that we're providing and what. So I think sometimes expectations are not met. And I'm wondering if we can do a better job of letting folks know that when we did go in and fix the asphalt, but sometimes it's just a temporary fix and it's intended to be. Gentlemen, Mr. Yeomans is requesting that the City of Oxnard restore the unencrypted access to the primary police dispatch communications or at a minimum provide a publicly accessible version.
Perhaps this can be done with a delayed feed. I know that the Police Chief is looking into this and seeing how we can best create transparency without compromising officer safety, of course. And the last thing I'll bring up is, I guess I keep hearing about the dog issues here. I've personally went to Mr. Andrews' house and observed it. There's no question this dog is incessantly barking. They've got multiple complaints from more than one household. It sounds like the neighbor was trying to complain on the phone but wasn't able to get through It just feels like we're going out of our way not to help a member of this community that's having a problem when we have a process that should be in force. And I don't know if there's ever even been an incident, a dog barking incident which has resulted in a hearing which is what's required under our code for all I know.
I don' t know if that's ever happened in recent decades So I'm really hoping that somebody on staff will be a little bit proactive and try to work with Mr. Andrews, he is a member of the community whether you like a person or not in the case of a city you can't choose your customers because your customers are everybody so we really have a duty to protect our residents from harm whether Whether you like the person or not. So those are all my comments today, thank you.
Thank you Council Member.
Yes, I think the one thing I really want to focus on today was updates on the Gold Coast. So as part of the Gold Coast Transit District, I'm one of the directors representing Oxnard and there's some proposed changes to some of the routes in our bus system so the goal is to be more efficient so faster travel times later and more frequent services and then time transfers so that there's more connection from one side The other side of town and to other neighboring cities. So there's going to be, there's currently proposed changes to routes 1, 10, 6 and 11.
And basically there's a listening campaign right now for feedback so we invite folks to come to the South Oxnard Library on March 5th between 4-6pm to share your feedback. Basically, sometimes our efforts are to have faster travel times but it might have lateral effects that maybe we're not considering so we really want to hear from users and from other community stakeholders about the realignment. So potentially Route 1 would be realigned and it would cut 15 minutes of travel time. We just want to hear back from folks that those routes might impact.
Route 10 is trying to realign to connect to Route 11 So on and so forth. So please save the date, Oxnard South Library March 5th 2026 from 4 to 6 but also at Port Wainimi City Hall they're going to be doing the same town hall format On March 11th, 2026 and there's others in the community just to hear about these changes in our bus services. So I encourage folks to share your thoughts. The good, the bad and the ugly. I know I've had two college students already talked to me about how this might impact them so please show up and share any thoughts and concerns. But I also had my office hours last Saturday. Oh gosh, I think it was the 7th There is an item on the agenda, so I don't want to like cross over but I'm definitely.
I just wanted to share some feedback on an incident that happened at the library and just safety concerns. So I know there's an item and I'll probably bring that information at a time. Thank you very much.
Thank you Councilwoman Rodriguez. We will go back to you Mayor Pro Tem.
Thank You mayor for the extra quick minute here. This is what happens when I don´t put things in my notes. First, let the public know especially if you live in Landscape Maintenance District 43 LMD 43 which is bordered by Williams Drive to I should have memorized this. What's over at Williams Drive, Cesar Chavez Drive in Wankel and a number of apartments there and single family homes.
And members of the community volunteered to go with me and door knock and drop off flyers throughout the LMD to let them know about a meeting that'll be on February 25th 630 p.m. at Rio Rosales School. For those who saw the previous episodes of City Council That was an item where they will be discussing the potential for an overlay or what the residents think about the replacement of lighting along the walkway, that green belt that goes throughout the neighborhood. And I want to personally thank the residents who volunteered to help deliver flyers and it's Alexis Schmidt who is a Neighborhood Council Chair And Heather Schmidt, who's overseeing the neighborhood watch program and then her volunteers who helped her.
Joe Garcia and the HOA president Mr. Martin Perez, and without them would have taken a lot longer to do that but we got most of it done and we'll get the rest of it done by the end of this weekend I believe Just really appreciate their work on that. The intention really is to get the information in front of folks so that they can carry it out, ask any questions they have of staff and we can see what they would like to do moving forward. So thank you for the extra time on that Mayor.
Absolutely, thank you for that information Mayor Pro Tem. And I'll just wrap up with some of the things that I've done as many of you know from me strengthening community ties is extremely important I met with Lideres Campesinas, and their group dates back to 1988 when a group of women got together to advocate for farm worker women who face violence not only in the work site but also at home. To bring awareness and resources so I was glad to meet with them.
Did a ribbon cutting for the Santa Barbara Airbus that's making a stop here at the Holiday Inn. And just to give you the history with that, that came about back in May of last year speaking with the GM over as Zachary Dunes mentioned just the significant amount of tourists that come into that hotel but the need for an airbus to be able to pick them up from LAX and take them to the resort And so myself, Andy Connolly from the Westminster Business Alliance as well as Brian Tucker from the Lodging Association and Brittany Hendricks from Visit Auckland got together.
And we met with the ownership of the Santa Barbara Airbus. Ultimately they didn't see that to be a viable stop but it did result in them investing and making a stop here at the Holiday Inn in the North End. So that's going to be tremendous benefit to our community for tourism as well. Speaking of bringing in folks from out of town, also because of our relationship with the Dallas Cowboys, it facilitated a meeting last year with Casey Curran. This is the Kansas City Current Pro Women's Team, their first division team to play in the MLS.
I believe they have two or three World Cup contenders players in that team as well. They're owned by the Mahomes family out of Kansas City but we were able to negotiate with them. That conversation started last year Again, with myself, Brian Tucker from the Lodging Association, Andy Conley and Brittany. And we were able to secure them to come out. Alex helped us secure that contract.
So they were here. They loved it. You know, just speaking with the hotel management there, they spent a little over $200,000 just in lodging. But the shopping that they did at Sam's Club Costco to be able to fulfill their nutrition program for other players That's just a boost into our economy. And they also did a soccer camp for our youth in our city, which was of tremendous benefit and having to follow conversation with them. They've tentatively agreed to come back for another two, possibly three years. So that is great for our community and it just showcases the workforce that we have here, how receptive we are, our climate and how beautiful our city is.
Having them here they play friendly matches against Angel City, Denver as well as next door in Ventura County Fusion Team. The women's PDL team came out and a result of them being here K.C. Currant contracted one of the players from here, from Oxnard, Ms. Bautista to try out but then Angel City wanted her too so Angel City took her and they took her to the Coachella Invitational Tournament but that's because of opportunities that we created by bringing a pro team here to our city. We created an opportunity for Bautista to be seen and now contracted with Angel City.
I also wanted to share with you I attended and supported the Santa Clara Elementary School fundraising event, as well as attending the Rotary Club. As Mayor Pro Tem mentioned, the Oxnard School District event at Rose Avenue School. And all of these... And as well as I also attended an event with CRLA. Attending these events and networking with Key leaders in our city is important to me because that's how you strengthen relationships. That's how you network, and that's how you get things done and projects to be realized.
And just one last highlight. Some of you remember we talked about, and I think Sarah, you remember, we created a stakeholders meeting. I started that last year. We're around now for about 40 participants, key members of our community participate in this stakeholders meeting to inform decisions about ICE activity in our city. The police chief is a member of that. Commander Serrato attends that, the fire chief attends it, Supervisor Vianney, the superintendents from our school, clergy attends it, other non-profits, Adelaide and Occupy attends, my cop as well as others to really engage in robust conversations about what is occurring here and clarify activity when we see it to provide factual information Which then these key stakeholders can take back to their own groups and have deep conversations about that.
Just want to highlight that, that is being copied. I'm going to attend Moorpark's tomorrow. Moorpark is implementing a stakeholders meeting at Thousand Oaks is looking to do the same thing so I think we're modeling In our city, what others are seeing is to be very important actions that were taken. So just wanted to share that with the public and with that I'll wrap up so thank you for your patience in hearing all of us out.
We will now
move to the next item on the agenda and this is from the City Clerk The subject appointment of a member to the Ventura County Continuum of Care Alliance Governance Board. The recommendation is that the mayor, with the approval of City Council, appoint one member and one alternate member to the Ventura County Continuum of Care Governance Board. This item did not originate in committee.
Luli Lopez, our city clerk, and Alex Nguyen, our city manager are here to answer any questions about this item. Before we get into Councilmember discussions or comments, Madam Clerk are there any speakers for this item?
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Mayor and Councilmembers we do not have any public speakers in person or virtually for this item. Thank you.
Thank you I'll now take any public, I mean not public, any Councilmember comments questions go ahead Mayor Pro Tem.
Thank you, Mayor. Looking at the staff report and talking with our staff I know you and I had a short conversation about it. I would be willing if you're willing to appoint to do this role looking it over and seeing the work that I do. I did do the due diligence of checking with the city attorney's office and with the staffing leads at the County of Ventura on this, and there would not be a conflict as I have up here on the dais when I have to recuse with agreements in the County of Ventura. But if there were they did say that there are a number of current board members and they have policy in place to allow them to recuse themselves if there is any type of conflict. So knowing that those bases are covered, I would be willing to serve if the mayor and the council would have me so thank you.
Thank you. I'm willing to move the recommendation to appoint the Mayor Pro Tem with myself as an alternate if that is supported, but we can open up for discussion. Yes? Just a question.
Does any other council member want to take a shot at the position? I do not, but I wanna make sure that everybody has a shot.
Correct.
If you do, you gotta speak up.
Councilwoman Perez, do you have a comment or anything?
No. I'll second the motion.
Thank you. Any comments? Any pros or cons? If not, Madam Clerk, call for the vote.
Roll-call vote 3–0 motion. Thank you. Any comments? Any pros or cons? If not, Madam Clerk, call for the vote. Councilwoman Rodriguez? Aye. Councilman Starr? Ye · 4 under review
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And this motion carries 7 to 0 with the member being Mayor Pro Tempteran and the alternate would be the mayor Thank you Madam Clerk
The next item on the agenda is the review of the Info Consent Agenda Do any council members have any consent agendas they wish to discuss or
pull?
Mayor and Council Members. I do have some corrections on the minutes if I can make that announcement.
Yes, go ahead. Thank you.
Okay, so these would be some corrections to the minutes for the February 3rd City Council meeting. So the bottom of page 71 of your agenda packet and the top of page 72 The recommendation should read Approved Approve the proposed resolution establishing administrative regulations to implement the provisions of the Rent Stabilization Ordinance regarding fair rate of return petition regulation and, and this is what was not, it was left out in the minutes. Document for at least six months on how the process is working with a report back to City Council in quarter two of the next fiscal year.
That would be once again on page 71 and page 72. One other change also in those minutes would be on page 73, item number N3. The motion is after further discussion and this is what the minutes should reflect. Staff agreed to send annual notices 45 days ahead of residential testing deadlines
Thank you, Madam Clerk.
Mayor, do you wish to pull these for later submittal or do you want to change them on the fly?
No, I think we can agree to change them with the corrections. I noticed that, and correct me if I'm wrong, Council Member Perrello, you pulled items three so it's L3, L4, L5 and six for discussion. Is there a motion to approve The remaining, which is L1, 2 and 7 with the corrections as Madam Clerk indicated that were on page 71, 72 and 73 making those clarifications.
Do you want to take speakers first?
Yes. Madam Clerk we just have one speaker Ms. Parcell.
Yes Mayor that is correct.
Ms. Parcell do you want to speak on item L6?
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My comment will be brief. On L6, I just wanted to request that when the list of city manager approved contracts comes to you on info consent like tonight that it looks like It's only contracts between $100,000 and $200,000. And there are other contracts below $100,000 that are not listed in contracts. Over $200,00 are listed on the website and I see a category for 100 to 200,000 also on the website.
But I don't see anywhere that the remaining contracts that are less than $100,000 get disclosed to the public in the way these other contracts are. So if we could add those, that would be great. Thank you.
Thank you Ms. Purcell. Go ahead Mayor Pro Tem.
For discussion, so let me move to approve the balance of the info consent with the Minutes as corrected by the clerk
Okay,
Roll-call vote Passed 6–0 motion for the housing Authority · 1 under review
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and this motion carries seven to zero thank you.
Thank you. And Mayor I'll move for the Housing Authority items.
I'll second that if there are no speakers Madam Clerk call for the
vote. Mayor we have a virtual speaker that just raised their hand so Virtual speaker, please press star six to unmute and you have three minutes starting now.
Good evening Council. My name is Louise Ramirez. Can you hear me? Yes. I am Eric and Curtis's neighbor on G Street And I also love dogs very much. I just lost my 13-year-old fur baby this last December. I am retired, so I'm home most of the day. The dog in question that we are complaining about just barks and barks continuously. I have to turn off my television and close my windows because Barking, that is so frustrating.
I also at times remove my hearing aids because it just gets so annoying. I did email Mr. Furman Hernandez about this dog and the constant barking. He did respond back to me that he had addressed the issue He might have spoke to them, I don't know. But that dog is just continues. I don't know what needs to be done for the dogs to stop. Is the dog sick or anything? I don't know what the owners are thinking that they think that the neighbors aren't annoyed by it So I just ask the council to please investigate why this situation has not been handled.
It, I mean it should have been a long time ago and thank you very much for your time.
Thank You Louise for calling in forgive us for the technical issues we were having. We will now move to Madam Clerk are we taking a vote on L2?
Roll-call vote Passed 6–0 Moved by Pro motion by Mayor Pro Tempteran and a second by you for item L2 and L7 for the Oxnard Housing Authority. Commissioner Andrade? Thank you. · 1 under review
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And this motion carries 8 to 0 thank you.
Thank you we will now
move to item L3 this item was pulled by Councilmember Perala this is from the city clerk subject entails resolution commending Dietrich Frank the recommended actions that the City Council adopt a resolution Commending Miss Dietrich Frank for over 10 years of dedicated service to the measure of Citizens Oversight Committee. This item did not originate in committee and we'll go to you, Council Member Perlow.
If the council and the mayor will indulge I would like to put three and four together that basically it's the same thing from Mr. Lopez earlier in the night and Mr. Shulman. These are people that are volunteering their time non-compensated positions multiple years I wish that the people that come to these meetings and pack it when there's an event for families and friends would hang around to find out there's opportunities to get more involved in the city of Oxnard because as has been mentioned graciously by other council members some individuals are stuck with these positions for decades. Mr. Shulman The chair of the neighborhood over 20 years. That's a lot of responsibility, a lot of weekends, a lot of things he and his wife put up with to help that neighborhood.
They did a great job but a lot times when they come to elections, and I've been in that spot, when they come to an election is there anyone else who would like to run? Very similar to what I asked when we had a council member put his name up. Does anybody else want to take a shot at it? The answer will usually be The person doing the job is doing a good job to just keep them going.
There's an old phrase, you can work a horse till it's dead. You need to get more people involved, get some young people involved not just young in age but young at heart because you can burn some people out and with that those are my comments on three and four combined.
Thank you, Councilmember. I'm prepared to move that item as recommended to adopt a resolution commending both Ms. Dietrich-Frank and Mr. Joe Munoz.
I will second that.
Madam Clerk, are there any speakers for this item?
Mayor and Councilmembers, there are no virtual or in person speakers for Item L3 and L4. Thank you. Call for the vote. Mayor Pro Tempteran? Yes. Councilwoman Basuah? Yes. Councilmember Peralta? Yes Councilwoman Beres? Yes Councilwoman Rodriguez? Aye. Councilman Starr? Yes Mayor McArthur?
Yes
And this motion carries 7-0, thank you.
Thank you will now
move to item L5 From the city manager's office, subject whistleblower policy revision. Recommendation that the City Council adopt a resolution updating the city's whistleblower policy to reflect current legislation. The Finance and Governance Committee approved this item 3-0 back on January 27th, 2026. And our assistant city manager is here to answer any questions we may have. We'll start with you, Councillor McPherlin.
Yes, if this would've been a normal situation Approve this on an info consent, no problem. But I did have the opportunity to watch that committee meeting live and go back and watch it a second time. There were certain things that really bothered me when we have a member of the committee and no one else challenged talking about they had one-on-one information from a person making a whistleblower complaint being the one council member that was instrumental in getting a whistleblower policy in the city of Oxnard quite a few years ago The whole concept was confidentiality and the protection of confidentiality to prevent the public from losing the presumption that is confidential.
But when we have discussions that a complaint had been made, then a follow-up had been made to a council member and they were carrying it forward The assumption is from the person watching it, myself in question that the confidentiality is going out the window. I think that hurts the city of Oxnard and I want to say that. I approve the recommendations on this item but I wanted to say that the purpose of the whistleblower policy is to protect the people that are aware of something going wrong.
Very few times does it rise to the threshold where action is taken A lot of the complaints are, shall we say juvenile. But when there's a perception possibly that someone knows the inside information where does that go? How does the person's confidentiality get protected? We hurt the system. I need to share that and I'll make a motion to approve this item.
Thank you Council Member Perlow. Go ahead Council Member Starr.
Sure so only time confidentiality is broken is when it's done without permission of the person who's complaining. And in this particular case, this person approached me and said what do I do? I said well we have a whistleblower hotline so why don't you use it? And I was shown all the photographs and time date stamps and looked pretty compelling to me but in any event it sounds like Sounds like nothing's going to happen with that.
So I guess we'll see, maybe we'll have a report from the city manager at some point. I think he mentioned that he might want to bring something to council about them. But what's on the agenda today is simply just the adoption of the whistleblower policy revision and not the actual report itself that was presented to us. So perhaps it's out of line at this point to have a conversation The contents of the whistleblower report when the only thing before us is a revision to the policy.
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Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead.
I don't know if the member of the public requested that it be brought up at a public meeting but I have to agree with Councillor Perallo that in watching it putting myself in the shoes of either a staff person or member of the public who wanted Waste, fraud or abuse? If I saw this being aired publicly, I'd say well wait a minute. This is supposed to be anonymous, it's supposed to be confidential. How is my report the content of what I said being now stated publicly and going back and forth? Will they figure out who I am?
Will this affect me in some way? Will somebody retaliate against me?" And so I think that's the principle behind this is for everybody else in the public who was not privy to that private conversation between a council member and member of the public, if they don't know that it was asked that the council member look into this, that could be the perception. And again, I don't know if that request of that member of the public was please air this out at the Finance and Governance Committee I think that the public needs to see everything.
So that's just, that was my take on it too. So I appreciate that that was brought up so that way members of the public and staff know that there is absolutely confidentiality to this whistleblower program and not everybody up here is going to... We don't actually review those as it turns out but if somebody brings it forward to me something in confidence you can count that I won't bring that up publicly There's a chance that somebody could trace that back to you. So those are my comments, thank
you Mayor. I was given permission to bring that up and if you look at the staff report it says these complaints must remain confidential and the identity of the complainant may not be revealed without the permission of the complainant. Now in this case the complainants identity wasn't even revealed
They asked you to bring it up at a public meeting. That's an interesting request, but that's their request as
you're stating. Basically because the whistleblower report was not clear, it looked like it was a non-financial item. It looked like it didn't have anything to do with the city and yet that turned out to be not the case. So you can... You know, you can do whatever you want with this, but I'm disturbed A complaint is being made that suggests malfeasance and that there's little being done about it.
And that, to me, is the bigger issue. But like I said today all we're doing is we're just adopting the policy revision. So
Ms. McArthur, certainly a decision but the same thing keeps getting said over and over again so I don't know if this is the time that we need to discuss this item or what? This complaint was received, it was investigated. There were things said at the Finance Governance Committee there appeared to be things said tonight that I don't believe are like factual so I'm very confident in the findings of the whistleblower investigation and we've spoken with the employee and I don' believe anything was done wrong.
References of the finance governance committee that one of our employees was Taking a work vehicle from the workplace and spending hours at a time at their house. That was the quote There is absolutely no evidence of that whatsoever They keep referencing photographs there were three photographs submitted from 2021 in 2022 Those are No evidentiary value whatsoever in looking into an inquiry like this. So again, very uncomfortable discussing this.
I believe in the whistleblower program. I believe in why we have the Blisk Whistleblower Program and despite what was said on the dais tonight is this is not the purpose of the whistleblower program to be discussing it in a public meeting. Council Member Perlow,
motioned. I'll second.
Wonderful. Madam Clerk, I'll give an opportunity for the public to weigh in if there's a public speaker on this particular item. If not, call for the
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and this motion carries seven to zero thank you.
Thank You Madam Clerk
we'll move to item L6 yeah this is from the finance department subject entails monthly report And list of city manager approved contracts with accounting of all receipts, disbursements and fund balances. The recommendations that the City Council one receive and file the report in accounting of all receipts, disbursements and fund balances for the month of December 2025. And two receive and file the list of city manager approved contracts for the month of December 2025.
This item did not originate in committee And I see that Javier Chigurhi-Lasador, Chief Financial Officer is here to answer any questions we may have. Are there any questions or comments from staff? Go ahead Mr. Perla.
I have a question Mayor. I appreciate the report in depth. I greatly appreciate it but I have a question on page 111 under all funds by nature Under the first bullet point under all funds by nature towards the top of the page 111, it says the last line. Include asset seizure funds received in the amount of $1.7 million and I'm just curious over say a five year period is there an average amount of asset forfeiture funds that we receive? Was that high or low Can we kind of like bank on we're going to get that much? Because I don't know that that'd be a good idea.
That's my question.
Good evening, Javier Chagoya-Lazaro, Chief Financial Officer with the City of Oxnard. Thank you for the question. We will look back in five years and this definitely is a one off that has taken several years for the city to receive those funds If we take this amount that we have received in early fiscal year 2026, if you look back the last six years on average the city has received a little bit more than $100,000 a year. So over six years we receive much less than half of this amount so this is a one-off.
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Councilmember Perrella, I'll just add a little more context. And speaking with Chief Medina earlier today, this was really an aberration in both Jason and my career. We've never seen anything like this. This is from an investigation that started six or seven years ago so that's how long it took to work its way through the system. And I know Chief Bonita shares a sentiment.
I don't suspect we'll ever see a seizure that high unless there's just some incredible outlier event, so it's very rare occasion.
Thank you Mr. Perlow. Any other questions or comments? Mr. Chigurhian are you able to address the speaker's comments? Ms. Parcell talked about L6 and Requesting a line item for miss person. I think you said under $100,000 it's not listed on there
There's a report that's part of this agenda item of city manager approved contracts in the month It's a listing and she's asking if If they could also include contracts under 100,000 as well
yeah, I can address that man We're good. We're gonna look into that we We've always had a link on our city finance website for contracts that were over $220,000. We listed it about four months ago we added a link for the contracts that City Manager signs that are $100,000 to $220,000 and I'm going to go back and look and see about the ones that are below $100,00. We'll figure something out.
Appreciate that Mr. Salcigar. Thank you. Seeing there are no speakers, additional speakers of the Senate. What's the pleasure of council in this particular item? Well, this is under CFO. Correct
but
we'll also... Let's go to the virtual speaker. I'm sorry, Madam Clerk. Go
ahead. Virtual Speaker please press star six to unmute and you have three minutes starting now.
Yes hi can you hear me?
Yes please proceed
Okay, good evening everyone. One of the concerns that I have in these monthly financial reports is the fact that our elected city treasurer is still indicating that he is not getting the source documents needed to sign off On these financials as it's state law that requires this elected city treasurer to sign off. And it's my understanding that our elected city treasurer is not willing to sign off on statements that he does not have the source documents that he can verify what he's signing off to. I mean, I don't think any one of us would want to blindly sign off on something that you don't have source documents and the needed data and information to sign off on. So I think that's really a concern for the city of Oxnard As a general law city to comply with state law and to have our elected City Treasurer more involved in terms of access to information to actually sign off on.
It's not just the Chief Financial Officer, it's not just the Finance Department but it's our elected City Treasurer and he continually indicates that he's not being given The data and information that would allow him to sign off on these statements and dollar amounts, and this report. So I'm hopeful that this will get resolved unfortunately it's taken a long time in the court system is still working its way through that because it seems as though the city just wants to kind of do it its own way again.
And not what is required by law, not what is required by an actual judge's order. And so it's unfortunate that we find ourselves in this position once again and I'm hopeful that will get resolved so we can have confidence in the financials for the city because that's our money, that's a taxpayer money. And I think that we elected a City Treasurer for a reason The state has statutory law that concerns the role and duties of elected city treasurers.
And I'm real hopeful that, you know, Oxnard is going to realize that, you know, you just can't make it up as you go along. You've got to abide by the law of the state, by the Superior Court of California. And hopefully our leadership team will start to recognize that those laws are there for a reason They're needed and they're necessary. And the city needs to start abiding by those laws.
Thank you, Mr. Burtell. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr Burtell for your comments. Does that conclude the speakers, Madam
Clerk? Yes, that is correct, Mayor and Council members. No additional speakers in person or virtually.
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I do respect the voters when they vote someone into office one time or multiple times. But, I do not respect the judgment when people publicly state as was just stated that the council and the management is doing something wrong I'll give you examples of what I know is being done wrong by our elected City Treasurer. He has contacted the Bank of America and tried to get Alicia Purcell, appointed Assistant City Treasurer, the wife of City Councilman Aaron Starr.
Bank of America informed the city of Oxnard and it was stopped. He is claiming that he's not able to interview every person that has been interviewed or applied for the assistant city treasurer's position. He is collecting full salary, six-figure salary and as council, the entire council was aware there was supposed to be an item tonight where the city treasurer would make a report on what he's doing.
He decided not to do that yet he still collects full salary As one councilman of seven, I think there's something wrong with the city treasurer. I think there comes a time when the voters who put them in office just like they put me in office need to hold people accountable. When comments are made by people that adhere, I could say possibly even our apostles of the city treasurer making the claims against the City of Oxnard without facts it's a big deal And it may be lonely being the one councilman saying something's wrong with that, but it's a place and a position somebody has got to say something.
Because facts and evidence matter. And when people run things through the court system as every person has a right to do there comes a time when there is reckoning. Unfortunately this is continually going on And we have people, as the previous speaker mentioned that management is doing something wrong. I contend they are not doing something wrong. They're trying to protect the city's resources and they're trying to protect the City of Oxnard residents and businesses.
Thank you Council Member. Any other comments? If not this is only a receiving file item and no action is required And at this time, Commissioner Andrade, you can be excused at this time. Thank you, Commissioner. You want to stay? Okay.
The next item on the agenda is Item N1. This is from the Police Department. The subject entails the downtown security contract. The recommendation is that the City Council approve and authorize the Mayor to execute an agreement with City Guard Inc., For a term of up to five years, for a total contract amount not to exceed $2,575,000 for security services in the downtown management district, the Oxnard Public Library, the downtown parking structure and the Oxnard Service Center.
The Community Services, Public Safety and Housing and Economic Development Committee approved this Item 3-0 back on January 27th, 2026. Commander Serrato is here to answer any questions council may have of this item. Go ahead Mayor Pro Tem.
Thank you mayor. Thank you commander I have a couple questions but i'm wondering if we can get just a quick summary of the item in front of us just for the benefit of the public?
Good evening Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem City Council members. I am Miguel Serrato commander with the Oxnard Police Department Uh, currently overseeing patrol operations. So we have had security in the downtown area all the way back to 2005. In 2017 it was requested that we get security at the service center as well as the Oxnard library and now it's also being requested that We have 24-7 security at the parking structure due to all the vandalisms and trespassings and crimes that have happened at the parking structure.
So we've had partnered with security companies for the last 20 years to help us with the downtown area.
Thank you. Any other questions? Yes, thank
you. For this specific contract, a couple of quick questions on this. For the security personnel we're looking at, will this contract call for armed or unarmed security officers?
All four locations will have unarmed security officers.
OK. Thank you. And can you share a little bit with us about the vetting and the background checks that these security personnel will have from their respective company?
Yeah. They have full background checks, and we actually did a request for proposal back in July the 1st. We ended up getting 21 proposals. We had four different panel members as well as myself, a commander and a sergeant overseeing the process. This company has been around for over 18 years. They also have current contracts with other cities very similar to Oxnard, so besides the cost we went with the experience, the evidence of good organizational and management practices, the ability to provide security personnel reliably and they're also technology driven and their quality of their presentation
Okay, thank you. My last question is for this specific contract how are we going to monitor the performance management and the security quality control for this particular vendor if it were approved by council?
Like we're doing currently with the current security company they are gonna be overseen by our central business district Oxnard Police Department police officers so they oversee everything that they're doing This new company is going to provide us with daily logs, weekly logs and monthly logs. They're also going to have their own supervisor and we're all going to work together in order to have a better quality of life in the downtown area.
Okay and do they use GPS in their vehicles? And they probably have to do regular check-ins at specific checkpoints I'm imagining?
Yeah that was one of their technology They actually do have GPS, where we can monitor wherever the security officer is at. And they're also going to be issued body worn camera footage that way they have video surveillance where they can capture contacts with our public as well as document any crimes that occur that
we can use as evidence. Okay, thank you. And sorry one last question it was mentioned at committee about face masks being worn by the personnel is that something that we can include in this contract as well?
Yes that was actually already included so it was mentioned during committee and the very next day I contacted the president of course there was no issue with the facemasks and it has been added to our agreement Where they will not be wearing any face masks.
Okay, thank you very much Commander. Thank you Mayor those are my questions.
Thank You Mayor Pro Tem. Any other question or comments? Councilwoman Rodriguez go ahead.
Yes this is the item that I didn't want to overlap with my report. I was at my office hours on Saturday the 7th and there was an incident in which there was a security guard witnessing but I did not see de-escalation tactics I know 9-1-1 was called, but it was a patron of the library who was intervening trying to like stop somebody with you know a skateboard.
The altercation began before I walked in that specific area by the steps, but I am in full support of having more presence. My question is really about deescalation tactics or what are the security officers allowed to do or not to do because many of the times things are happening so quickly And just reporting out that the incident happened, I'm concerned it's not enough.
Can you speak to that?
Yes. That's another reason why we went with this company. Yes they are there to observe and report. They are there for their presence and now with our digital recordings they're also there for that. They do come with training which includes de-escalation so what we're gonna expect them to at least try to defuse what's going on and they're gonna have direct contact with our police officers, that way we get a more rapid and better response.
And as a matter of fact if it passes City Guard Incorporated will be visiting us in the next couple of days actually in a couple of days where we're gonna take them to each location That way we have the right officer, personnel in each of these locations. That way we're more successful.
And I know it's hard to gauge but what would be an estimated response time? Because I know police station is pretty close to the areas were discussing and I know there's a homicide across town. I wouldn't expect folks to drop what they're doing however any feedback on that?
They should have, they're going to have direct lines to our officers are currently working the Central Business District. They're going to have direct lines to the sergeant that's supervising not only the Central Business District but he also supervises the Homelace Liaison Officers so we're hoping that the response is going to be a lot quicker since you know yes they can call 9-1-1 and yes they can call our non-emergency number But they will also have direct contact with our police officers.
And that's a different practice than what currently happens right
now? We hopefully have the same practice right now, but again with this security company we're hoping based on their experience with the technology that they bring that we're going to get better results
Okay, well I appreciate it. I am in support of the proposal however I'm very concerned just about like and I get it we are a public space where anybody's welcome to the library. I just am concerned about the safety and wellness especially when there's kids around and you know somebody's swinging a weapon which was a skateboard in this situation so thank you for your attention to that and I look forward to seeing progress with that.
Thank you. Thanks commander any other questions or comments? Go ahead, Council Member.
Yeah I'm in favor of this proposal and I'm happy that we're going to be covering patrolling the parking structure now. My understanding of course is that from reading here it's a request by Public Works. I think people need to understand just how much damage is being done to that parking structure especially elevators. We have homeless folks that will camp out on You know, some of the upper floors I've actually observed it.
And they just completely ruin the elevators. They defoul them. It's just really pretty awful. I don't know if maybe if you can ask a question, maybe our public works director can on this one but he just give us an idea the magnitude of just the damage that's I don't remember the amount. We have kept track of it, and it's a significant amount.
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submitted the request for funding, it was easily better to spend that money on security than it was going forward with the amount of vandalism that we see in the parking structure and specifically the elevators but not the elevators. The lights, the graffiti, the things like that and also we have to address the bio-waste that occurs in there on a routine basis so when you look at kind for lack of a better term, return on investment. It was easily in favor of the security costs.
I think I'd like my colleagues to think about it in this respect even though the $213,000 portion of the annual cost of $213,000 just for the parking structure given the damage that's being done and the cost to the city really the marginal cost is much less than that and it could possibly be the case The cost of the damage that's being done actually exceeds even the annual cost for the patrols. So I think this is a good move by staff to have recommended this, and so I'm very much in favor of this.
Thank you, Council Member. Go ahead, Mr. Perlow.
I have a question, appreciate the report. I support this but I have a question with respect to Councilmember Rodriguez's thing. Individual if I gathered correctly individual skateboard potentially is a potential weapon how does the security unarmed protect themselves? And I'm aware that people can pull a knife extremely quick and it can be a real bad. How do we get the feeling that we're not putting a security person in a spot where he can't even protect himself I'm just curious.
Yeah, some of the security guards will have less lethal options such as a PR-24 Abaddon. It does take a lot of training in order to have this these least less lethal options. We rely a lot on the command presence of them actually being there on them actually recording what's going on and the partnerships that they're gonna form with us. And hopefully we can assist them with better response times. It's a difficult thing, and even when we talk about armed security guards yeah they might have it in exposed firearms permit but the training at times is just not there.
So it's one of those where we have to wait but we're really relying on forming good partnerships And then improving of course our response times in order to be there before it even occurs.
You mentioned a certain number or something, is it like a taser that they would have? Or something to keep them at further than arm's reach?
Well they can carry pepper sprays or a baton. Some of them could have tasers but I believe the majority of Baton and or pepper spray. Okay, thank you. Thank you.
Thank You councilman Peralta Commander we do have a couple of public speakers What I miss oh, I'm sorry Eric did you want to say something before we go? Well,
I was gonna say that then but I just Queen knowledge that way so he He used to be four years old running around a mobile home park in South Oxnard now He's a commander for the City of Oxnard Police Department. It's pretty cool So I just wanted to acknowledge that Carry on
We'll go to a virtual caller, then we'll go to you Pastor Runyon after
that. Virtual speaker please press star six to unmute and you have three minutes starting now.
Thank you good evening mayor and council members my name is Vanessa Valdez a Latina lawyer from Oxnard and I'm speaking today as a community member in Oxnard who is deeply concerned About this proposed 2.6 million for downtown security services, I haven't had time to really analyze it and really apply critical thinking and be able to propose questions. So, I would request that this be set for perhaps the next meeting when the community also have more input.
Last year, you approved over $5 million for policing with no meaningful safeguards and in direct opposition to what this community asked for. And now you're asking for more without accountability, without transparency and without listening. We don't need more cops downtown especially when they are not responding when we actually call them. During the ice raid on A Street in Oxnard last year, I personally called the police to help keep the peace and they refused to come. They didn't show up for our community when we needed them.
At the last immigration task force meeting, I asked the chief a direct question. I was interrupted by one of the members there and he was not allowed to respond. That is not transparency, that is silencing. Before you give the police more money we need answers. What is happening with the drones you were supposed to purchase? What that is being collected? Who has access to it? How is it being stored? How is it being used? Our community does not need more surveillance. We need trust and right now there is none Why is this happening now in this political climate when immigrant families are already living in fear? This funding does not help our community feel safer. It makes people feel watched, targeted and well just isolate further. Our democracy is weakening and you continue to act as if nothing is happening.
You dismiss us when we say ICE is terrorizing our neighborhood. It's not a secret that ICE has violated constitutional rights. When that happens the police chief has a duty to protect the community first That includes holding federal agents accountable when state laws are broken. That means arresting them, processing them so we can identify and hold them accountable later.
Instead of funding more enforcement you should be investing in housing, mental health, youth programs, worker rights and legal support. We don't need more security. We need officers who will answer our calls. We need leadership that listens. We need investment in people not punishment Stop funding harm and start funding community. Thank you.
Thanks, Ms. Valdez for calling in. We'll now go to Pastor Greg Runyon.
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Mayor, Council. You know this security guards are interesting because Commander Serrato I came in today and I took a little slip and fall. I'm not getting ready to sue the city so don't get freaked out. Yeah, well, I'm not going to do as bad as you did with the football team though. Don't worry. It's okay. All you had to say is we appreciate your passion and pride. We, you know, third time's a charm. That's all you had to say. So next time, all
right? Don't laugh too hard there.
No, that's alright. You guys did good. It was alright. We had fun. But Commander Serrato came as soon as I fell. There were people right there to make sure I was okay and I'm fine. The idea about observation is good. The idea about having more eyes is good, but I get costs and everything else. But let me put it to you a different way. We're protecting people not property.
And so you tell me what a person's worth. And I really appreciate some things people say and then some things kind of light me up a little bit People keep talking about community, but it's always their community not our community. And the thing is that no matter your skin color, no matter your age, no matter your gender when someone swinging a skateboard somebody could get hurt and somebody's throwing a rock somebody can get hurt.
When somebody is using pepper gas and things somebody can get hurt. But we can't always ask the police to do everything So hiring security guards to be an extra eye is important. Having people there that are able to administer first aid is important. Those are the things we oughta be talking about, cuz this is about the cost of people. Our parking structures are getting vandalized and hurt by people who don't have hope.
Security guards aren't going to save that. They can help. Our job is to try to help people, so I don't know that you can put a price on people and I appreciate what law enforcement does because more than ever we're asking them not just to carry a gun, we're asking them to carry a heart They have to have more compassion than they ever have. They've had to learn a different way to do their job, and we're asking them to do more and more every day.
So this is gonna help our community. It's not helping them, it's helping us by helping them to help us. So thank you.
Thank you, Pastor Runyon. Mr. Magana?
Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of the Council and staff. My name is Abel Muganya. I am the Executive Director for the Downtown Oxnard Improvement Association and one of your principal partners in this, in the downtown in terms of keeping it clean and safe. In fact It's roughly about 60% of our budget goes towards that effort and it's a holistic approach. We do have a team of cleaning ambassadors who also contribute to the security, you know looking at a place that, you know the broken window theory, take care of it, clean it up as quickly as possible so that you don't leave blight and let I encourage more district property crimes.
And then with relative to the security, we've had three security companies in the history of the Property Based Improvement District here that's over 20 years really. So this is a pretty significant change here. We looked at it in terms of evolving with the district. It's a lot more safer than it's been Just a few short years ago, I mean you know from the decisions that were made at the federal level to address the homeless issues and our own local initiatives here in terms of setting up Casa de Carmen and all that.
So, but there's still a lot that goes on that you know we hear of directly in our office. I get the calls personally on my cell phone and we relay them to our security team and they're very efficient at getting to respond to the calls very quickly, a lot faster Our officers are dealing with some other bigger issues and so we fully support it. And I hear the support amongst all of you, so really I'm here mainly to say thank you. Thank you for continuing to make this investment in Cleveland because it never ends. You still got to continue to work at this part of the foundation of making a vibrant downtown. Make it clean and safe first. And then, you know, we'll make it fun with things like with the cultural district and activities and programming and events like that.
But that's only possible when you have this foundation. And I do appreciate the very comprehensive approach to it in terms of like we're taking care of the parking structure that frees up our officers from their base camp to the other officers to be able to patrol the area more efficiently And I did want to add also too that the district is also making an additional investment that we are proposing this Thursday at our board meeting to secure further with security cameras throughout the districts, probably strategically in areas where we know of a great degree of property issues primarily. I wanted to say first, thank you for ensuring that they will not be wearing masks.
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I appreciate you guys going and thinking of that in advance. I did have a couple questions that I don't think have been addressed yet. One is, I would love to hear more about the training that the security guards receive. I would love to hear more about the transparency and oversight that will be taking place for the security guards. And what kind of investigation will happen if there is an incident?
Thank you.
Thank you, Sarah. Commander, are you able to address some of those questions that Sarah just posed?
Yeah, I don't have anybody from City Guard Incorporated here at this time. You know, although I'd rather have I'd rather get back to you guys regarding that. You know, I do know that it's a good security company. They do come with a lot of training if they have less lethal options. You know, they're trained with that but other than that, I would rather have them talk about the type of training that they actually come with.
Thank you. Maybe we can put that for our future agenda where you can come back and And just provide, to address Sarah's questions about the background. I'm sure not the background but specifically the training that they undergo and who or how many carry what equipment with them and also regarding the checks and balances and spot checks for accountability and what that process looks like.
Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead.
Thank you, Mayor. Along those lines Commander and I'll open it to anyone who might have this information when it comes to being a security guard in the state of California believe there's a certain standard that they have to meet, right? I believe it's a guard card or something along those lines. Do we have any initial information on what that standard is for attaining that level of certification or training to be a security guard in California? Because I'd imagine this company comes with that as the foundation and then they build upon that and the things that Councilman Rodriguez and our speaker have mentioned. Is that correct?
All the officers undergo a comprehensive vetting process prior to hire, and this is coming from the company. This includes a TransUnion TLO background check, verification of guard card and licensing status, employment verification, and professional reference checks. The company also confirms full compliance with all applicable state requirements before assigning any officer to a post. Their team will be visible...
That team will be visiting us next week. But that's just some of the background that they go through.
And along those lines too, I know that when I had questions about this prior something I had brought up about the library was in the personnel that is identified to be the kind of lead for the library. That they be similar what Councilwoman Rodriguez mentioned someone who is well attuned to dealing with members of the public possibly individuals who You know, maybe challenging to work with or maybe at the library and In a position where they may be asked to leave, but if there's a way to de-escalate that. So looking for individuals within this security contract who specifically hold that capacity of being able to de-escalate situations work well with individuals especially work well with members of the public and possibly differing ages who maybe at the library so I know that's part of the conversation we had as well correct?
That's correct and that's also part of our visit when they come in on Thursday is putting the right security officer at the right place. And we specifically picked also the library just because we have families that go there, we have children to go there and of course we want to put the right security officer there.
Okay and the last thing to follow up on Sarah's comment here is when an incident does occur what is a follow-up from the police department in assessing or evaluating those incidents?
So we have to follow up, of course if there's a crime. I think now with them coming with BWC footage which video surveillance it'll help us with our investigation anything that occurs within their areas they're supposed they are they will be reporting all the information directly to us and then if needed we would respond and then take further action
Okay. All right, thank you Mayor. Mayor
Pro Tem,
Councilwoman?
No I really appreciate the in-depth conversation specifically you know there's a lot of issues that folks walking through a public space can be dealing with mental health you know drugs and other factors. I'm also thinking about the staff that you know get to work there and they should not feel like they're in harm's way and I think that the sense I got that day is that this happens more often than not so The security presence, the de-escalation and everything. I think we have to think creatively and think outside the box of how do we support our library staff? And you know, I literally turned to a family and said, I'm so sorry please don't stop coming to the library like a commitment to do better. So that's those are my two cents. I really do think it was probably possibly mental health issues.
And I think this is a step in the right direction but it's not the magic formula It takes more than that. Maybe a collaboration with the county and their mental health team, I don't know. I don't know what that looks like specifically but I think this is a good start.
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Thank you, Mayor for the recognition. Speaking of the county, I know the component that we've talked about tonight is around data and just curious regarding the data sharing portion of it if this information that's captured whether it is video content or any other form of data that is being captured could that information be shared with our Sheriff's Department here in the county?
Yes, it can. So our police officers are going to be responding if we need to retrieve it that's going to be evidence that we can obtain.
Chief you want to say something? Yeah go
ahead Good evening Jason Benitez chief of police just to further your question I think the information will be shared only certain contexts. Like for example, if it's immigration enforcement related, I don't think that would be the case that we would have our vendor do that. If that's...I'm not quite sure if that's where you were driving at but if it is a criminal investigation and they are the source data for that, it could be something that could be shared with any local law enforcement agency whether it's the county or neighboring agencies but we would not have them provide that information to federal immigration authorities.
Great Chief, do you mind clarifying that a bit more in terms of the component that you just mentioned now with a criminal investigation and that data being shared with the Sheriff's Department? I know there's just a lot of content out there regarding just individuals being released and picked up by ICE at the Sheriff's Department. So just wanting to get some clarity on that end if that component could become an issue.
So I don't see it becoming an issue, but I use this in the context of say if a crime is observed by security guard who reports he's the reporting source. That person essentially becomes a witness in a criminal case that person could also be subject to testify in court if necessary but If there is something where a person is identified just hypothetically, where the person that the security guard observed happens to be a suspect in a VCSO case or a Ventura PD case. That information could just as easily be discussed amongst the detectives so this person for example Maybe he's committing a series of serial assaults or serial thefts or something like that. There would be some natural linkage that would take place, but it's definitely beyond the scope of immigration enforcement.
Thank you. Thank you, Chief.
Can I ask a question just in my own mind? Councilmember Rodriguez brought up the issue a skateboard potentially being used as a weapon If the police department gets involved and we find out that the individual Potentially was using is it a weapon, but we also find out that his in illegal alien is His use of an illegal weapon wiped away, and the police department doesn't get involved. I And I want to not bait you, I'm not trying to bait you.
I want to make sure that we're not just looking, that we're not going to handle issues about immigration. That's not what we are hiring security for. We're hiring security for security. Illegal immigrants, immigrants, residents, natural born, naturalized, everybody wants to be safe. The security is to help everybody as the pastor continually explains very well, Runyon.
My concern is if something happens, we've got it on camera. The individual's got a skateboard as Council Member Rodriguez I think I correctly understood he's potentially using in a threatening manner and all of the sudden we interact with him but now he is in a status where he's not a legal resident does his use of that as a weapon get shoved to the side and are we just hands off?
I guess the short answer to that, Councilman Perlow is no. We do not take a person's immigration status into account whether they are a suspect, whether they're a victim or they're a witness so if the skateboard comes into play, the scope of that investigation absolutely does not go anywhere near immigration enforcement or immigration status. It would go to what actions that person took with said skateboard And whether it's an assault or not, we would handle it strictly from the lens of being an assault. That's it. It doesn't go any further than that. We don't ask people about their status. We don't care about what people's status is. We don't ask. Our officers have a policy against that. We wouldn't expect the security guards to have anything to do with that either if
that makes sense. I apologize for not asking that question more clearly but thank you very much for your...it helped me a lot. You're welcome.
Thanks, Chief. We have a virtual caller. We'll go to that caller now. Thanks, Madam
Clerk. Virtual speaker please press star six to unmute and you have three minutes starting now.
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Hello, my name is Levi Duarte and I'm a student at Oxnard College. And I guess my question is say the security company is approved how would the hiring process be? And like who gets decided like for the process for how was the security guard hired?
Thank you for your comments. Any other public speakers, Madam Clerk?
Excuse me. Mayor and council members, that concludes our speakers in person and virtually. Thank you.
Thank you. Committee, do you have any insight as to the hiring process behind the security company? Was that part of the presentation that they had with your hiring staff?
What was the question again?
The question the caller had is What the process is for someone, for the security company to be considered for employment? And my question to you was whether or not you have any insight as to what their hiring practices are, requirements, et cetera.
Well it's on their firm which they go through their firm through their backgrounds and that's how they hire with their practices and they've been around for 18 years. They have a good actually they have an excellent track record So we would, you know, we trust and we check that they went through the proper channels and they have a good firm and a good background to hire their applicants.
Thanks, Commander.
Just to make a comment, we're not in the business of customizing the job applications for the companies that we hire. They all apply even board and it's determined if they're qualified. I just want to say that if there's no other questions, I'll move the recommended
action. I'll second. I'm supportive of this item in the sense that they will complement the policing efforts that our downtown officers are doing And I'm certainly committed to making our city vibrant and enhancing the quality of life of our downtown, protecting our library, protecting our city staff, and protecting our community that comes and visits the library.
And invited us to look at the staff reports about $515,000 annually but there's some financial contributions made by the Downtown Management District as well. So a lot of efforts are being put forward to really provide security Mr. Wolf mentioned as well, the amount of costs that we incur with the damages and vandalism that occurs at our parking structure in this contract will provide 24-hour security services to our parking structure We have the security company come back and provide a presentation to potentially answer the questions that the committee members may have. So we'll put that in a future agenda item, but if there's no further comments or discussions or public comments...
We'll go to miss program.
I just have one more comment. I wish Mr.. Larry Stein were here, and he could share with us his concerns about the library and not about the library about the parking structure And this is possibly not you just simply mr. Stein But I see our librarian here the people that work in the librarian are Not helpless but they deserve to be make sure that they're protected having worked and gone through the library Years ago when a person OD died in the library A lot of things can transpire in that building, and they need to have some security. I totally support this. I appreciate all the work and the questions that have been asked but you need as much help as you can get to make our city better.
Yeah. And I appreciate the comprehensive reporting just to restate this has been a place where we've had security patrol since 2005 so this is not a new idea that's coming forward which is... Just go ahead Mayor Pro Tem.
Just a quick thing regarding the question about the vetting and the employment and hiring practices by this operator. I look at the contract for item 17 for lawful performance as well as a few other items, but this one is One that sticks out is the service provider shall abide by all federal, state and local laws and regulations as may be related to the performance of duties under this agreement. Service provider at its sole expense shall obtain and maintain during the agreement all appropriate permits, licenses and certificates that may be required in connection with performance of services under this agreement. And so it's in their best interest to hire competent well-trained and to at least the foundational minimum people who have certifications to be security guards then in the performance of this contract to make sure those people are all maintaining that certification in order to stay in compliance with this agreement.
Beyond that, as was stated in the presentation by the commander, they certainly want people who are well-suited to serve face front with members of the public and the library and library staff and patrons. So it's certainly in their best interest to do this I think I appreciate the commander's mention that we certainly want to trust them on this, but it's also written into the agreement in a number of places that they have to. They have to do that as well.
So those are my comments. Thank you, Mayor.
Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. Go ahead, Councilwoman Perez?
Mayor, thank you for the recognition. I'm not too sure. I appreciate Commander Serrato's follow-up in terms of the ensuring that masks are not to be worn as part of the uniform there, but I think I'd love to hear more from City Guard's perspective as well and I just don't have that tonight so I don't think I'll be able to vote on that specifically regarding just wanting to hear more from them directly Just would love to follow up I think in the future if possible.
I appreciate that and we will work with the city, with our staff and the City Clerk too. And then with the Commander-in-Chief to potentially bring back maybe members of the executive leadership team of the security company come back and just address some of these questions that we still have, or members of public have. They can provide some insight. If there's no other comment or public comment, Madam Clerk call for the
vote. Councilwoman Basuah? Yes. Councilmember Peralta? Yes Councilwoman Betas? No. Councilwoman Rodriguez? Aye. Councilman Starr? Yes. Mayor Pro Tempteron?
Yes.
Mayor McArthur?
Yes.
And this motion carries six to one, thank you.
Thank you. Thank you, Commander. Thanks. Thank you, Chief.
Thank you.
And thank you Councilman Perez for your comments. Thank We'll now
move to item N2, this is from the finance department. The subject entails fiscal year 2025 through 2026 mid-year budget. The recommendation is that the city council one receiving an update on the fiscal year 2025 26 revenue and expenditure projections for major funds two approve budget amendments to the general fund Street maintenance infrastructure, use fee fund, Transportation Development Act Fund, Capital Outlay Fund, Special Districts Fund, Development Impact Fees Fund, Circulation System Improvement Fees Subfund, Bond Assessment District Fund, Water Operating Fund, Environmental Resources Operating Fund, Golf Course Operating Fund and the Public Liability and Property Insurance Fund as explained in this report.
Three approve adding and adopting the environmental resource roll-up door replacement project to the fiscal year 2025 26 capital improvement program. This item did not originate committee in our CFO Mr. Javier Lazaro is here to answer any questions we have. We'll start with you Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead.
Thank you mayor similar to the last item would you mind giving a Just a quick overview for the public, Mr. Chagoya-Lazaro just about the midyear budget review and why we do this each year?
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Good evening City Council. Javier Chagoya-Lazaro, Chief Financial Officer, City of Oxnard. Before that, I would like to introduce Thomas Liu, Assistant Chief Financial Officer. I think he's the first time sitting here in the Council Chambers and he will be taking the lead on this presentation. Also we have Tanya Williams, our city budget manager that has been essential in putting all this report together.
Before passing to Thomas there this mid-year review process is an exercise that we do with all the departments and in the city where we basically give them the information for the first five months of the fiscal year and ask them to look what their projections are for for the end of the fiscal year when we collect all that information and we just basically prepare this document and this report for the City Council.
And with that I'll just let Thomas address any other questions you have.
Thank you, I actually have a couple short questions and I think they all pertain to Public Works so I think the Public Works Manager was...I feel bad because he just got comfortable back there Thank you, Mr. Wolf. So my first question regarding our environmental resources fund, there's reference and I know we've mentioned it publicly here at past meetings to the expenditures and the $2 million in the revised budget or the decrease reflecting the infrastructure use fee fund. And what if you wouldn't mind just stating that again for the record? What that is and why this is being decreased.
Sure, good evening again. Michael Wolf, Public Works Director. The Enterprise Resource Fund there are several modifications or recommendations that we are making pluses and minuses based on the usage that we're seeing at the facilities but the specific item that you're addressing is the IUF component of that And so there's, there's a couple of things that are being done in this budget adjustment recommendation is that that money would typically be transferred from solid waste and put into a street maintenance funding source. So that's one of the changes that are being made is that because we had brought forward a reduction in single family residential rates, collecting that component of the fee and therefore we're going to not make that transfer to the street maintenance fund.
So, that's that $2 million reduction that you see
in transfers. Okay thank you and the implementation of that fee even though we stated it previously was done in accordance and compliance with a previous ruling on the previous litigation for the IUF is that correct?
Correct, so the city got a judgment. I think it was 2021 if I remember correctly indicating that. If we brought forward a updated report that including that fee would not be against any of the current statements that were in like the streets and highway code or vehicle
code sections OK? And what was the determination for city staff to decide, you know we're going to go ahead and discontinue this component, this IUF?
I'm sorry say that question again.
What was the reasoning behind staff's determination that we're going to discontinue the IUF at this in this cycle?
So we brought that to council and we indicated that there was i think it was August of last year, a final ruling from a Redlands case. And with that information available in August I think we brought something to Council in October so you know month and a half later indicating that we were going to abide by the Redlands case ruling and make that change in the single family residential
solid waste rates. Okay, thank you for that. And I only bring it up because I've had this conversation in person with a couple people and they were a little confused by the statement that the city had done something illegal or illegally implemented the IUF again and I thought about it and it seemed to me that if I was driving down a street going 45 miles an hour on my commute every single day and then it was ruled that no, that street needs to be 40 miles an hour Last week, I wasn't breaking the law. I was following the law. It's just that the law is now changing and I have to now do this.
And so that was just my best way of coming up with that, that we did as was allowed in a previous litigation but some other city had litigation and the city decided to go ahead and follow that, just stay in line with it. So all right, that's my question about the IUF. My last two questions, one's about the golf course and one is about the roll-up CIP project.
So I don't know if golf course, if we have Mr. Howlett or if you'll take that?
We'll see. Let's see if I can do it.
All right. Can you just tell us a little bit about the golf course and the changes we're looking at here and how the golf course is doing this year?
Sure. So specifically about the operations in the look of the golf course or are you talking about what's in the staff report? What's in this? Okay. So what's in the staff report is We have, as you can imagine, quite a bit of machinery that maintains the golf course. And a lot of those are larger mowers and some of those are under older air quality management directives and they no longer meet the current air quality management directives in terms of their combustible engines. And so as we progress through all those state or There are quality requirements that we had to pull some of those pieces of equipment out of service. And so what we're proposing, we have a new general manager that came on several months back and did an assessment and identified the need to replace some of those that couldn't be used instead of renting some of those to make up for the mowing that has to happen at the golf course.
Purchase of that equipment also includes some autonomous mowers as well. So we're trying out, they did a pilot test of some autonomous mowers and so it'll be a purchase of some larger running mowers and some autonomous motors that they'll be utilizing at the golf course in lieu of renting what they've been doing renting in the interim because the other ones were taken out of service for air quality requirements. The other part of the request is A capital project request for those of you who have been out to the golf course know that the parking lot is need some TLC.
And so we are recommending doing a project out there that will make some repairs, asphalt repairs and some restriping and some planter tree planter improvements to the parking lot. We also going to remove the grass area, the non-functional grass area that's out there in front And make that available for parking all the time, because it's available for parking certain days of the week where there's a high use of the parking lot which is usually Saturdays and
Sundays. Okay thank you. And those autonomous motors are not run by AI are they? I'm just kidding. You don't have to answer that Mr.
Howlett. What I've been told Steve probably has a lot better details that they act very much like a Roomba
from your house. That's my understanding yes. All right, my last question is about the number three recommendation on here for the environmental resources roll-up door replacement and any information you provide to us on that because it did get its own item here on the recommendation list as a CIP item. So if you can give us some basics on that and how that landed on our midyear budget review?
So we have several places at the MRF that have the larger roll-up doors that vehicles go in and out of that facility, obviously drop off or end or pick up solid waste. And those doors are relatively very old. They're past their useful life and we're trying to address some violations that we have from our local enforcement agency about making sure those doors are operational That wasn't a capital project that was on our list until we got visited from the local enforcement agency recently. And so we are putting together a CIP project to address those role outdoors, it's a long term maintenance issue like we have with a lot of our facilities.
I liken it to, if you look at our fire stations, our fire stations have rolled doors as well. Those are very heavy mechanical electrical pieces of equipment and they have a useful life to them. And so this is reaching the end of its useful life and so we need to make sure that we address those with a capital project. What we don't know right now is we're still in the information planning and designing phase. So we don' I know Brian is here in case he wants to add anything else.
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Okay, no thank you for your transparency on that. I appreciate the response and having us all aware of why this is specifically being added as a CIP project and if they're at their useful, the end of their useful life then we need to look at them but the fact that we need to look at them a little bit sooner rather than later so as to maintain compliance with any regulatory obligations we have. I appreciate staff looking at that as well. All right those are my questions Mayor. Thank you very much and thank you Mr. Wolf.
Thank you Mayor Pro Tem. Council Member Perrella, go ahead.
I'd like to follow up on Mayor Pro Tem. He mentioned the UTF. My understanding was that council took a vote to handle the $2 million. It wasn't a staff decision. Wasn't it a council vote?
About the IUF? Yeah. In terms of changing the single family residential rate that was brought forward to council, yes. We implemented that rate change in advance of the council reviewing that item. His
specific question was about the $2 million and then the council so we're talking on the same thing then correct? Council vote.
Yeah so let me make sure we're on the same page here. So when we brought Environmental resources or the solid waste rates to council that was voted on by council. So, so the rate itself the rates that we charge for all of our services at ER were brought to council and approved by the City Council. The IUF was a component of that it was identified in the cost of service analysis that the city council used to approve the rates. I think it was almost two years ago now? Yeah almost two years ago.
And when we learned about the issue with the court cases and stuff, it was a council. And if I'm wrong, please correct me anybody, anybody. Council made the decision to go forward with reduction of the two million.
Again, we implemented the reduced single family residential rate as an administrative change. And then we brought that to council at the next following Council meeting that was allowed in terms of the time frame for the agenda being posted.
Okay, thank you and the second point And I appreciate Mayor Pro Tem bringing up the doors, the roll-up doors. Having been involved with roll-up doors, big ones, people don't realize they figure they just walk in and out. It's a tremendous amount of weight over people's heads and when something goes wrong they can come down very quickly with some really drastic not just to people but to equipment underneath that door if it falls on them whether it's a roll-u or a slide-up door things can go wrong in the maintenance you got to take care of them That's my only question on that point. The only question I have, Mayor Pro Tem, on this item is on page 397 we have a statement and I'm still on...
Yes, 397. A statement on it's one two three four five six seven eight nine ninth bullet point Community engagement and services. The city annually circulates 200,000 library items, services 45,000 plus senior meals and delivers 60,000 Senior Center Program participants also host community events including Tamale Insect Festival and holiday celebrations. Does the city provide services to 45,000 seniors meals or is it the city delivers 60,000
meals. Council Member Perrello I believe that those two words were transposed so I believe it should read delivers 45,000 plus senior meals and services 60,000 plus Senior Center Program participants. Thank you very much for the clarification. Yeah, I apologize for that.
No problem.
Thanks Council Member Perrello any other comments or questions? We'll go to the virtual caller.
Virtual speaker please press star 6 to a meeting you have 3 minutes starting now.
I can hear me
yes, please proceed.
Oh, good evening again. It's Doug Portillo. I do have a question in terms of CIP projects and specifically with Fund 350 and the Quimby Reserve funds And it's my understanding that there's a little less than $10 million of unused Quinby fund money over about 20 neighborhoods, and currently they're about three projects. That are being considered for use of those reserve Quimby funds and the rest are undesignated. And could you please help me out and see where those Quimby reserve funds, and those specific CIP projects are mentioned in this? That would be helpful to me to see that. And also I'd like to touch on the IUF So just so the public is clear, Mr. Mayor that when that first IUF case came up And it was brought to the attention of the leadership team by Mr.
Aaron Starr. It clearly showed that IUF fee was illegal, which the court later supported. But at that time, the city was charging the 42,000 some rate payers. That was about $7 million a year. So at that time, the city had been gaining about $22 million or thereabouts. And so it's my understanding that Mr. Starr said well, Forget about the $22 million, just stop charging the rate payers the rate fee. And of course, the city wouldn't do that. It went into litigation and so at the end of that litigation because they were still charging the fee mind you and with all the costs that was generating illegally and it was illegal let's be clear that's the ruling from the court That was thirty six and a half million dollars So when the city cries poor because Aaron Starr cost the city $36 million and a half, it's like the bank robber saying well gee I'm going to lose my house and my truck now because you caught me with the bank money in my attic.
So let's just be clear about that. Now the city went ahead again because the court ruling did allow the city to do a new study so that was what the judge allowed the city to justify a rate increase for the IUF, and now the city came up with a $2 million-a-year figure. But it's my understanding that study did not show that was justified. And then
later... Thank you, Mr. Partello. Your time is up.
Sorry, Mr Partello. You're at your three minute mark. Madam Clerk, are there any other callers?
Mayor and council members, that concludes our speakers in person and virtually for this item. Thank you.
Thank you. Any other comments? A
question What's the consequence of if the council does not approve this today?
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Basically with these actions With this recommendation, basically the big consequence we are asking for certain appropriations. So those appropriations won't be able to be implemented and the city won't be able to meet the commitments that are being asked at this point in this recommendation.
I think I had trouble understanding that exactly so what are the real world consequences if we don't approve this?
He said that if you don't approve it, there are additional monies that are being asked along with this appropriation. So those moneys will not be able to be spent if we don't approve these items.
Okay. Thank you.
And basically the projects won't be able to happen? Correct. So there's additional money being requested.
I guess I'm concerned about the increase of spending in the general fund by $8 million. I think that knowing that The financial trajectory in the long run in this city is not necessarily all that bright. I think we should be looking at ways to economize rather than simply increasing our expenditure appropriation, so I'd like us to look at that first rather than simply say we're just going to spend more because we think we need to.
Thank you, Council Member Stoller. Any other questions or comments? Yes, go ahead Mayor Pro Tem.
I appreciate the question there for the real world consequences of this. I think if we were to liken it to if you had a machining manufacturing company and one of your departments said hey, we're in the middle of the budget year and the cost has gone up on aluminum, we're going to need X amount more to be appropriated to us so that meet the demands that are put on us.
If you say no, you won't meet the demand. You certainly have the right to say no if you're the owner or governing body or whatever it may be. If you say yes then you can meet the demand of what the machining needs are using the aluminum so I hope that's a real-world example that's helpful to connect dots for folks but as our CFO mentioned these are there's a pretty routine exercise and These are, as we go halfway through the budget year, we see what's being realized as far as expenditures. What the needs are for different departments and funds.
And these are the requests and we can either accept them and approve them. We can table them for another time or we can not approve them. That's the way I see it so thank you Mayor.
Thank
you Mayor Pro Tem.
So Mayor, I'll agree that this is done routinely every year And spending seems to go up every year with the city. And I just think that maybe we need to look more at how do we make, how do we economize more? I know in business world sometimes you have increased expenditures but you figure out where to cut elsewhere to make it work. What I'm seeing happening over time is that we're just simply draining our reserves And we're going to have a day where we're gonna say, you know what?
We can't afford this unless we raise taxes again. I don't wanna be putting the public through that. So while I'm fine with the other funds that I've seen here at their relatively small changes, I think I'm really not on board with increasing the general fund expenditures by 8 million 132 thousand and change
Go ahead, Mayor Pro Tem.
If I may, Council Member, are you aware of any cities that you can name where their costs have gone down?
If you're saying that spending is out of control everywhere, I'm not going to disagree with you.
OK. In the private sector, have costs gone down for anybody?
Sure. Some instances, absolutely. Which
costs are those that have gone
down? Computer costs tend to go down over each year because of more efficiency. We tend to, you know, wherever technology is trying to change things very often you do see decreases. And just
apples-to-apples here for labor or have labor costs gone down for other cities or even the private industry or private sector?
I'm sorry point of information can we have a motion on the table and debate the actual motion When we're ready to do so, instead of engaging in this dialogue.
I will move the recommended action that we go ahead and approve as asked by staff.
I'll second that. I would ask that we divide the question on General Fund 101 versus the rest of it. I can vote for the rest? I can vote for the rest of it.
I'll second that amendment. That's fine, we can take one each
independently.
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We are going to be voting on approving the motion but Council Member Starr would like to do the general fund as a separate vote in order for him to vote no on that so I don't mind this, we need to move this along.
As far as debate on this, my question stands is apples to apples if materials or labor has gone down for anywhere in the private sector.
Is this germane to the motion on the floor?
Well, the point was made that expenditures and spending are continuously going up every year and I'm just trying to make the case that is that unique to this city? Is it unique to this organization Is it unique to the public sector?
You're right. The public sector has huge problems with spending. We see that at the State of California, we see that with the federal government and we see that here too. No, I'm not disagreeing with you there are problems everywhere. Just for clarification. It would be nice if we can just come to a vote because there's really not more we're going to get from this exchange. I think I know where you stand and I think you know where I stand. Okay. Just wanted to hear that. Thank you.
I do know that we have like our additional financial experts here who are making these recommendations. So maybe I'd like to hear from them in terms of us dipping into our general fund and taking eight million dollars, and again this is what my first second rodeo in these conversations so I just want to make sure are we in a healthy position where moving the from eight million dollars from the general fund and how does that affect us you know and moving forward because if there's a concern about us not managing our fiduciary responsibilities accordingly, then I would want to have that conversation.
So basically, the general fund is still in a good financial position because the general fund is holding the reserve policy of 16.6%. That's two months of operating. The general fund still has almost $15 million of that emergency reserve. We're not touching any of that money. What we really are using to support and fund this amendment is part of the available fund balance that we're finishing the fiscal year 25. So, we're still holding a very solid financial position on the general fund even after doing all these appropriations that we are recommending in this report.
So to clarify, we're not dipping into our reserves?
We are not. I'm dipping into the statutory and policy reserves.
Correct. Thank you so much, and if I may just you know maybe even You know clarify it the way I look at is is I need a new roof on in my at my house It was unexpected. I'm not gonna tap into my reserves. I've been doing so good with my money that I'm going to take it from my regular money That's coming in So we are actually being very you know good stewards of I know it is a lot of effort to bring this forward.
Longer time horizon here. I know that in the future we're going to have issues because number one, there's pressure at the state legislature to reduce the amount of money that we can get from warehouses like Amazon and have it split among other cities. I know that we've got the Measure O sales tax is going to lapse at the end of 2028 early And I mean, I don't think staff could tell us with a straight face today that everything would be hunky-dory and we'd balance everything if we actually really attempt to wean off of the Measure O funding. I think that if they can tell us that you know what? There's no need to ever bring this back to a vote to extend.
That would help assure me a lot but I don't think staff can say that.
Mayor McArthur, if I can comment real quick. So a lot of this discussion that's taking place tonight is a discussion that needs to take place during the budget process. This is the mid-year budget review. These are dealing with kind of like real time happenings or real time numbers. If you break down the nearly $8 million in general fund appropriations that Council Member Starr has referenced, they're real things. You'll see a $4 million liability issue we have. A $1.2 million in police overtime, some fire expenses. Those are things that are happening right now and so they're things that we need to address at this moment. Kind of this forward-looking 12 to 36 month kind of perspective on where we think we're going to go is a very healthy discussion, and I do believe it needs to take place.
But that's the discussion that we're going to have in the next couple months when the budget process starts. So I just want to make sure that we clarify both of those things about what's happening tonight compared to what's gonna happen during our budget process.
Appreciate that Mr. Spencer. If I could just ask this one request I have is if for me it would just be clear if I can get a report from each department That includes the current use percentage to date per line item. This way, at least for me visually I can see where we are percentage-wise at the midyear per line item. Maybe we can have that discussion later and figure out a way to just visually look at that and see if we are on par with what we anticipated the cost would be per department.
Okay. Absolutely.
I appreciate that. And just for clarity Mr. Fischer We have a motion and a second to adopt the recommendation but we have an amendment by Council Member Starr just to proceed forward, move this item along.
We're just dividing the question so if what I would suggest is vote on everything except for General Fund 101 as your first vote and then come back for your second vote on General Fund 101 that's what I would suggest.
Both of those have seconds?
Yes. We already divided the question
It's divided. Go ahead, Mayor Pro Tempore.
Just a quick clarification for the record, Councillor Stroud, I heard you say the words dip into reserves when it referenced to General Fund 101 and Councilwoman Rodriguez did establish from staff that these are not reserves and so just wanted to check on that to see if that shifts your way of thinking when it comes to dividing General Fund 101 for your vote?
So if you're going to increase expenditures by $8.1 million, it doesn't just happen magically without your reserves being less than what they otherwise would be. Like I said the long-term position of the city is not as financially bright as one would like so you need to economy us now so that you can deal with the hard times later
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Mr. Starr, Mayor Pro Tem asked you a question do you believe the information they gave Councilmember Rodriguez sitting right next to you
that
we're not dipping in the reserves yes or no?
Whenever you increase spending your dipping into reserve so you don't believe it I'm just simply saying just like yes or no I'm just I'm just saying it's to me It's just math
If you
write check from your checkbook And you update the register, you show less money in your checkbook after you write your
job. I think we're just into the semantics of the terminology this city council has a policy on operating reserves. And so that's the term that we use. But there's also fund balance and there's available fund balance, those are different things. And so while I respect Council Member Starr saying that we're dipping into reserves, I mean, we're dipping into money that exists whether you want to call it reserves or not is again the semantics of it but the city council has a policy on operating reserves And we're not dipping into that. We're not even dipping into the second layer of available fund balance from way back, so again just I think everybody's kind of talking about terminology rather than what's actually happening.
Thank you Mr.
Sonstegaard. I'll close by saying that I appreciate Mr. Sonstegaard's view on that. It comes to mind for me that for my business I have my checking account and I also have a reserve, which I hold at 15% and everything I have come in goes to that. So they have that if pay bills and other things, blah, blah, blah. But my checking account when I pay something and I write a check and I update my register comes out of my checking account. My reserves not touched that stays at whatever my 15% mark is whatever my goal is for that.
And it sounds like that's what we're doing here. Is that correct from our financial staff?
That's a good analogy. Okay,
thank you very much.
Thank
you Mayor. So we have a motion to second on Councilwoman Basuas if we can call for the vote on that and then we'll call for the vote on Councilmember Starr's amendment.
So everything except 101 right now right?
Correct.
Can we please
repeat
the motion for Council Member Basua?
Roll-call vote Passed 7–0 motion for Council Member Basua? I'm sorry. Mayor and council members, what we're voting on right now is everything except for Fund 101. Cor
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And this motion carries 7-0 Now we would be taking a motion on Fund 101. Councilwoman Bettis? Yes. Councilwoman Rodriguez? Aye. Councilmember Starr?
No.
Councilwoman Basuah? Yes. Councilmember Peralta?
Yes
Mayor Pro Tempteron? Yes Mayor McArthur? Yes And this motion carries six to one, thank you
Should we take a motion to pass that? No, okay. Well let's just go then. All right
the next item on the agenda is Item N3 from the Finance Department subject ERP Annual Report and Ninth Amendment to the Agreement with Creative Core Technologies for ERP Implementation in IT Services Support. The recommendation Is that the City Council one, approve and authorize the mayor to execute a ninth amendment to the professional services agreement with creative core technologies in the amount of $11,490,000 for a new not-to-exceed contract amount of $21,510,000. And to extend the term of the agreement to December 30th, 2028 for project management services related to the discovery documentation implementation stabilization and ongoing IT support for all phases of the city's multiyear enterprise resource planning implementation as well as some additional IT non-ERP projects to approve an appropriation in the amount of $2,500,000 from the general fund.
Available fund balance to fund the project C2034 ERP implementation in fiscal year 2025-'26 and authorize the corresponding transfers for the project budget And three, receive and file the ERP system annual report. This item did not originate in committee. Mr. Sonsigard is here to answer any questions along with the Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Lassiter. And we have a couple of public speakers if we can go to them first. Mr Sonsigard this is Alicia Purcell, and then a virtual speaker.
I was just going to provide a
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heard this item before and some of you have not. This was a an item that came periodically, almost annually to City Council since around 2019 or 2020 but as you know the enterprise resource planning system or ERP it's really The framework, the nervous system, the skeleton of our city government. It's an integrated software system that ties public works, finance, payroll, HR, asset management, planning and licensing utility billing all together.
Don't think it's exaggerating to say it's probably the most impactful and important project this city has undertaken in the last 30 years. It's that big, and I think you can get the sense of that from reading the staff report. One thing I want to bring up to the residents, and I bring up to you tonight—I do say this to people in the community whenever I can— And we probably don't do a good enough job of highlighting it that Oxnard is an incredibly complex city.
It's probably the most complex city in the Tri-County area to say the very least, it's very rare you're going to find a city our size that is a full service city that has its own utilities or own public safety golf course housing authority and I spotlight that because an ERP implementation of this magnitude really illustrates all those complexities, and you probably saw some of them in the staff report. So we're doing something a little different this year. Historically, we brought one-year contract extensions each year with an ERP annual report, and we're pretty proud to say that the end is in sight now.
And so we've kind of crafted this contract amendment report to incorporate the full implementation and kind of take this project to the projected finish line. So we have a great team of individuals here, all the department heads that really have a piece of this ERP and I will just leave you saying This ERP is dealt with on a daily basis, and I mean the implementation.
Our department heads are dealing with this implementation project on a daily basis and have been for an extremely long time. So very important to the city, and very important that we get this thing across the finish line. We'll transition to public comments, and then the staff will be available.
Absolutely. Go ahead.
I'll second the motion to go past 10.
Madam Clerk, if there are no public speakers, call for the vote.
We're calling for the vote at extending time past 10, right? Yeah,
correct.
Roll-call vote 3–0 motion to go past 10. Madam Clerk, if there are no public speakers, call for the vote. We're calling for the vote at extending time past 10, · 4 under review
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And the motion carries 7-0. Thank you.
Thank you madam clerk If it's okay, we will now go to Alicia Purcell and then the virtual speaker. Go ahead Ms. Purcell.
So the first part of this contract was approved in October 2019 and at the time the plan was a five-year implementation with projected costs of $14.9 million I'm not sure whether it was at that same meeting or a different one. I do recall Aaron predicting that the project would take twice as long and cost twice as much, and that's pretty close to where we are now.
We're extending to 2028, so that's nine years and a cost of over $32 million. I feel like if those numbers had been brought to the Council in 2019 the outcome might not have been the same but that's where we are So many times once these projects get the camel's nose under the tent, then it puts you into awfully awkward positions. When you're asked to approve more money and more money and more money nobody wants to throw away the sunk costs And roll back, you don't want to do that. So you prove it and now here we are on the Ninth Amendment and it's an awfully big one.
It's an awfully big one. The staff report does contain a bullet list of some drivers of increases but some of them seem like things that we knew at the outset and they should have been part of the original estimates and projections of what it was going to take. For example, you know we had multiple bargaining units in 2019 as well so I don't see why payroll rules have gotten so much more complex than in 2019. The data complexity of the prior system didn't change that's one of the reasons listed. Oxnard was just as complex a city in 2019 is now so we're not dealing with things that Weren't known then.
They were known then. When a vendor quotes us the cost to do a task, you know we should have contract terms that hold them to those estimates, put a cap on the thing. We can't just keep paying them more and more to finish the job they started. At some point you have to say well you have to honor what you quoted us We should only see contract increases for new features that we're choosing to add, that were not part of the original deal. I would like to hear more about what we're doing to prevent these huge increases whether it's changing our approach to contract terms or something else but you're freely spending other people's money and This amount of money can fix an awful lot of potholes and that sort of thing around the city. So it's, you know, it's not trivial amounts you're looking at tonight.
Thank you. Thanks Ms. Parcell.
We'll go to the virtual caller.
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Hi good evening again this is Doug Partello You know, many of you may not have remembered this movie but it was a great Tom Hanks movie in 1986. It's called The Money Pit and this ERP system seems like this is Oxnard's money pit And I think Alicia laid it out well, just look at the cost increases. But the only problem with this ERP system is it's not unknown that these ERP systems have had problems for implementations, high costs, low user adaptability, failure rates for projects reported between 50 and 75%.
So this thing has challenges including inadequate planning, data migration errors, scope creep and insufficient training. Which seems true in this case, but here we go again. I mean, we are just spending money on, I don't know, call it the bullet train to nowhere or like our ASR wells. I mean look, we poured hundreds of millions of dollars into this project and we haven't seen a single drop of water And this is a system that is questionable whether it's really gonna work the way it was sold and intended. And the costs just keep going up, and up, and up. And I know it seems like it's just monopoly money to you guys.
But it's real money coming out of real household budgets. And we've got folks hurting right now, and it's gonna get worse. We're possibly facing a recession. We have lowered state and federal monies coming into the city, even our city manager alluded to that at a prior meeting. So you know, someday some point sometimes you just have to cut bait And tell these people, look you either give us what you promised without doubling or tripling the cost down the road and we should expect that. That seems fair but what's happening here is just a continuation of mismanagement of our city. I mean, you guys aren't running a city, you're ruining a city, the city we love and that's real money. And if that money gets wasted on this It's not getting used for other really important things.
So those are my thoughts, gonna be another six to one vote I'm sure but you guys have a good evening.
Thanks Mr. Portillo. Yeah go ahead Mayor Portillo.
Thank you. I have a couple questions for staff on this. Appreciate the overview Mr. Sonstegaard gave. What does our Current system that is being replaced, how far back does that date? I don't know who can answer that.
So our HTE system that some of you may be familiar with was implemented in the early 1990s. My best analogy for that and it's a joke I've made since I came to Oxnard in the 90s was that if you've ever seen the movie War Games when he's asking do you want to play a game, it's similar to that. It's a green screen So we were on that legacy system for about 30 years.
Sure and it's a
black screen, green monochrome text right? Anyone who frequented the public library 25-30 years ago maybe not maybe a little bit more recent than that still use this system similar to that as far as the public facing appearance for that. Is this a type of project that if Walk away from. I mean, is that there's certainly this sunk cost fallacy? There's certainly the return on what we've put into things thoughts.
But is this the type of thing that you could just cut bait on considering how integral it is and how many departments are already onboard versus those that are still in testing and those who still need to come on board? I mean, I know our IT director isn't here tonight but
I'm going to say a few words before, unless he has anything to add. You know with projects like this there's a couple different ways to go down. Some of these are system transitions, some of these are just system creation and implementations. And so some of these things, for instance our enterprise asset management module that's going to go live here probably in the next 60 days, that's something this city has just never had.
And as it was characterized to me recently, we could go back to sticky notes. And that's basically how we managed our assets in Oxnard for as long as any of us have been here. It's not so much about, well we'll just go back to the way we were doing things. Maybe we weren't even doing some things. So a part of this and just to contextualize part of the project is making the city like better getting the city into the 21st century or 2026. I just wanted to have that comment.
If Rob has something to add, I'm sure he can come up. Yes thank you Mr. Rubin
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Good evening, Mayor, Council Members, Rob Rubin, CIO. I think Eric did a pretty good job of explaining it. There's a couple other things that you want to take and keep in mind. The money we're talking about is not trivial. The success rate that was mentioned by the caller for ERP systems in general of 50% or less, half of them or more fail. They don't make it.
But here's an example of Implemented two significant modules already, the financial module and just a little over a year ago the human capital management and payroll module. We're as Eric indicated about 60 days away from actually probably more like 45 days away from implementing the enterprise asset management module. And we're probably somewhere in the next three or four months away from implementing the permitting and licensing module. This is not what you'd see in the trend of a failed project. This is a project that had a past, that was not going very well but if you look at the last couple years it's significant progress and I think you wanna consider that when you consider the thought process of is this good money after bad? Should we just cut and run You're not seeing failure in the work that's been done over the last couple years, and the costs are expensive.
The ERP systems are expensive as Councilmember Starr mentioned. Whatever you think it's going to be, it's double or more than that, and that's something you mentioned back in the fall when we came to talk about Tyler. It's true. These things are always bigger than they look. They're always more complicated than they look, and then you always end up at the end where you don't have the knowledge about your system, this 30-year old system that you thought you had. And so when you look at upgrading or changing out to a new system, you don't have the institutional knowledge that you think you have and then when you turn around and see the billing and licensing organization basically turn over completely and lose every single member of that organization in the last couple years All that institutional knowledge went with those people, and so it's made this project longer and more expensive.
And there is a list of other things in the staff report that address that as well. But I at least just wanted to make those couple of quick points without beleaguering it. But happy to answer any other questions that I know we've got Michael and Jeff and Javier to take.
Thank you Mr. Rubin. My last question Mayor, and I don't know if the city manager or the CFO would like address this. In 2022, I believe that the discussion from the then council was around bonding for two specific items streets and for the ERP system is that correct?
Yes my recollection yes
okay and to have comments made tonight that we're spending all this money again and again and again going down this road As a mechanism, as the funding mechanism through bonding would that have been another source of funding this project versus us using the funds we have here in front of us tonight?
Yes and it would've been a little bit less expensive but I can address the overall discussion here too. Okay yeah if you wouldn't mind just touching on that. Just because you can get an answer from CHAT-GPT doesn't mean that you understand anything. So let's be very careful about the discourse here. Every big organization goes through this every few decades, public, private, it doesn't matter. It's just something that you have to do.
We as a society, we haven't really caught up to realizing how important this invisible infrastructure is. But it is just as important as electrical lines, gas lines, sewer lines, roads, bridges and so on. It's just invisible. Now, with regard to going back to 2019 and that original presentation, what that presentation was premised on years of study and research in trying to get ready to figure out which company the city was gonna go with. There was no question that we as an organization had to update our ERP.
And at that time, the recommendation was with this company. But it could have been Oracle, could've been any other company. They're all very difficult. And at that time, the assumption is we should have known everything. No, we didn't know everything and they didn't know everything. And it wasn't just how outdated HTE was, the program we had been using for nearly apparently three decades because that program had become so limited and our needs were different, people very resourcefully albeit not preferably in hindsight just found their own workarounds. So that information wasn't known to the contractors, the consultants at the time.
And as our assistant city manager pointed out it's a very complex organization so one example We don't have one simple timekeeping software program, because our departments that run 24-7 have different needs from the other aspects of the city where we have a more quote-unquote regular work schedule. So it's just different. I think community development needs is at what is called Blue Beam, Star Trek beam, something like that?
Which is a totally different program to accept plans, large Public Works has different needs. Everyone has slightly different needs, and learning what those are along the way is what causes the cost to go up because we're asking of more so this is not a situation where we're not managing it or that we're being tricked by the consultants. We're just working it through. Yeah, anyone can say these things are always going to cost more and take longer.
That's just part of it. Don't fall for the discourse of we're like, we're putting good money after bad. We're just going through this. We are managing it the best way we can. Okay? It is not monopoly money. That's a bunch of BS. We are managing it but it's something we must do. It is as important as any other piece of infrastructure for this city that supports this community.
Thank you.
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You know, I bring up the bonds back in 2022 because that was a vote of the Council and the Council approved it. Not humanely but they approved it and that moving forward was then litigated and to say well we're spending all this money well this could have been another mechanism that was then litigated At the trial court, then the appeals court and it was requested to be seen by the Supreme Court of California.
And as I understand it Mr Fisher that's concluded is that correct? The bond litigation regarding the 2022 decision by the council
So there are two bond litigation matters. So the pension obligation bond was the one that had a recent Supreme Court ruling, not our case but a similar case of City of San Jose and then The pension obligation bond issue that was pending before the California Supreme Court, they remanded that back to the court of appeal which then wrapped that case up and the city prevailed.
On the lease revenue bond case which included the ERP related funding I believe, that one the city has prevailed on as well. Thank you.
And in the end, I hope that this can be a future item for us to study that and see if it even makes sense to do those things given today's interest rates or what other municipalities and counties are doing. But back in 2022, there was a very different financial landscape than it is in 2026. And I think that's what the city manager was alluding to by it would have been less expensive than where we are now.
So anyways, these are my questions. Thanks for your extended time here.
Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. Any other comments or questions? I'll just make a brief remark to myself. You know for me, I'm all about modernizing our city and making it more effective. Not to say it doesn't hurt when you see these kind of numbers and it does, I think very naturally, very logically. You question whether or not we made the decision back then and it's costing us a lot but nonetheless you understand that Thank you very much.
I have a question. Who actually owns this project?
Who actually owns the project here? So
we had originally sat in the city manager's office as a business manager. A former employee was here managing that and so now we kind of co-pilot it, Rob Javier and I, we kind of co pilot it together. We attend weekly meetings have multiple discussions a week on the projects I hope that answers your question.
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I'll give you my perspective. Yes, when this came up originally in 2019, I did say it would cost a lot more than what the council was being told and yeah, it's turned out to be the case. Doesn't mean it's a bad investment but we certainly came in believing That was going to cost a lot less than it actually does. My hope is that there won't be any other increases in the next two years. I'd hate for someone to come back to me and say, well you know we need another $5 million on top of the $32 million that we're projecting.
There is such a thing as sunk cost where you don't really Once you spent the money, you don't look at what you spent at that point. You look at what you need to spend from this point forward to finish something. So it's really the marginal cost and marginal benefit is what you need to look at though it's tempting to look at that sunk cost a lot. From the standpoint of the value proposition for the marginal cost of finishing it I don't really see a good argument for not going forward with this.
I do believe in my heart, though, that the original decision which very few of us here were involved with... I know people like to say that HTE had this horrible system where we had green screens and all that. We have other cities in Ventura County that use HTE And they weren't using green screens, they've updated their hardware. They updated their software to the most current version and I'm not saying that we necessarily would be better off on HTE. I don't know, I haven't done that sort of analysis.
Maybe we would, maybe we wouldn't but I do remember it being mentioned that the reason why we had to go to this other system is because You know, HTE is stuck in the dark ages. And I don't think that was completely true. But in any event, here we are and it's time to make a decision on this. And from my perspective, I think given the options, it makes more sense to go forward than to pull the plug. If you come back to me a while later and say it's going to cost another $5 million, $10 million, I suppose it could happen, but right now based on the best information that we have in front of us, I'm going to be inclined to vote for this.
Mayor McArthur, I want to clarify one more point and perhaps either Rob or Javier could. There's a figure being thrown about the $32.4 million and I wonder if you might be able to clarify the actual implementation cost that we can use to compare to the original contract?
Sure. Buying this system, basically you've got the cost of implementing it and then the cost of running it. It would be like buying your car and then you still have to put gas in it. You still have to do your oil changes and that kind of thing. So on the staff report on page 420 there's a chart that separates out the implementation costs from the ongoing production costs.
Numbers that I think you'll want to look at for the implementation costs are $25 million. It's actually 25,386 and the production costs are about $7 million. So the 7 million is the gas and tires and that kind of thing of running this system through 2028. And the 25,386 number is the cost of implementing it. So Eric, that's what you were referring to? Is that separation of those?
Yeah. And I mean as modules come online they kind of switch over from the implementation column to the production column and so for instance some of the costs related to finance and HCM aren't I just want to make sure we're comparing apples to apples or small apples to big apples.
Mayor, at this point, I'm willing to move the recommended action.
I'll second. I do have a question. So since you brought up the 7 million, I guess that means there's going to be some ongoing annual costs for ballpark idea what that will be?
Yeah, I believe that's actually in the staff report. I don't have the page number but the amount of year-over-year ongoing I believe is 1.7 million which would include 423 thank you and so that would include at the current strategy right now is the support the production support is outsourced So that number includes that outsource figure. So it would be the software fees and the outsource of the production support.
At a later point in time, we may consider whether or not we choose to outsource the production support over time or bring that in-house. The dynamics of that are a little bit complicated because just the nature of where we live and the talent pool that's available but that's something to be looked at down the road.
I do have one last comment to say. I just want to say that, uh, I have a lot of confidence in our CIO. I think Mr. Rubin is doing a great job and I think he's always been very good about giving us the straight answers to questions so I appreciate that and just wanted to compliment you on that.
Thanks Council Member Starr. Go ahead Mr. Perlow
I have a question. I didn't get answered, but I need to challenge Mr. Starr. You have a lot of confidence in an individual. I mean, I appreciate that and I understand the English language. Does that mean you have no confidence in some other individuals here? That's a fair question, Mr. Starr because you do a good job of taking shots at staff. In my opinion they're doing a good job.
One thing that I do know when your wife said that you were Mr. Molina, before he was elected treasurer used to be hammering on those things costs are gonna be so much before you even showed on the scene and the issue with respect to what this city had gone through before you showed up on the scene with the audits and the things that happened which required that we needed to anybody that's taken a chance to go back and read what those audits brought up this need and needed to do something that's what led to this and I support this But if we have somebody that is not trustworthy in a management position, I wish that you could share it. But when you do bring some facts and evidence.
Opinions count but they're like a certain part of everybody's got.
The
other question that I have Mayor from the staff is under ongoing costs and completion on page 420 just above the chart that they were just referencing. and maintain legacy systems. I'm just curious, how long do we think the legacy systems will be needed to be maintained? I think that's significant because as they're saying, we're finding things that we can do that we didn't know. We're finding things that have been wronged that we didn't know, that the experts at the time didn't know and it's getting better.
It's getting better in my opinion
Councilman to address your question will need the legacy system or the HT system through the end of the implementation. So that's targeted toward the end of 2028.
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